The Brilliant Idiots - Costly Conversations Dos
Episode Date: October 27, 2022This week Andrew and Charlamagne has more to say about Mr West, and his unpredicatable antics. Also we threw in in Chris Morrow our Jewish pundit, give his commentary about Kanye. Now the only questi...on is how worse will it get for Kanye, after many platforms have been leaving partnership with the musical genius. Later in the episode the lighten up the discussion with some ask an idiot, where they share what their best business move has been Timestamps: 1:10 Dick Talk! Did it get to Kanye? 2:02 Kanye describing his manhood on Lex Friedman 3:30 This will be one of the biggest L's in history 5:00 Was Kanye's goal to be dropped by Adidas? 15:45 Lex Friedman exposing Kanye's loneliness and hurt 25:55 Chris Morrow on Anti-Semitism he received after last episode 35;25 Are artists or audiences responsible for the content we consume? 43:00 Is Future the most influential rapper of the last decade? 48:50 On the Kanye/Hitler comparisons 53:30 On the George Floyd documentary 58:46 Dick Talk! (Meaty Petey) 1:07:17 Church Announcements 1:12:59 NYC "door holding" stabbing 1:17:00 GloRilla responds to Lil' Duval 1:19:20 Ask An Idiot ********************************************************** Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount+ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Empty Thoughts Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empty-thoughts-show/id1622292632 Empty Thoughts Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-zRsExS9E0VBmwb9Cekdug Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Can I say something?
Yeah.
Even though I know we're...
That's what the podcast.
We're supposed to say something.
That's the point.
Um,
that,
that penis length thing hurt.
Yeah,
bro.
The penis length?
Bro,
I saw,
I saw him on...
What's your guy's name?
Lex.
Lex.
I mean, Lex,
it's your wedding, actually.
Yeah.
Um, very interesting person.
That's the person I would really like to have a conversation.
Yeah,
we got to get Lex on.
Because I didn't know Lex was a real human.
Like,
I thought he,
I literally thought he was Joe Rogan shooter.
I don't know if he...
Oh,
Oh, oh.
I didn't know he had his own podcast.
I mean, I knew after that night,
but I didn't know he had his own podcast.
I didn't know he was a MIT scientist?
Yeah, he makes robots.
Are we sure he's not one?
I think he might be one.
Yes.
I'm not even joking when I say that.
Yeah, yeah.
The way he moves is just like very, very robotic.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But I saw Kanye on his podcast and we can insert this.
Kanye just volunteered that he had a big car.
People, just in general, they love me so much.
I'm like actually a hard guy.
to really hate for a long period
time just because, like,
because of, like, my huge cock.
And that's what I noticed.
I didn't, I didn't understand why he showed it to me
when we first met, but now I understand.
Yeah.
It's very nice.
Congratulations.
I mean, he just kept talking about penis.
It's because he wants that energy.
Big cock energy is some energy you want.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, that's some shit you want people to say about you.
When motherfuckers is out here saying,
yo, you walking around with that 10-inch thing.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, I don't go fuck.
How much money you want to do you.
you got in the back.
People don't brag about the billions
like they brag about the dick size.
Even if you hear a woman say it,
it don't sound the same.
It won't be like, yeah, he got a billion dollars,
but he got a 10-inch dick, though.
Whoa.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa, it's different.
It's different.
Nogne was in that interview talking about
dick the way he talks about billions everywhere.
Yeah.
You didn't find that interesting?
Yeah, all of a sudden, he's like,
I don't care about money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a 13-inch dick.
I wouldn't care about money either
if I was about to lose it all.
You better not.
Yeah.
I will say that...
So we're recording this Tuesday.
Tuesday.
It should come out tomorrow
depending on what Andrew says
during the podcast.
But this has been...
But this will go down
as one of the
biggest Ls
a person has ever taken
in business.
And all year long,
I've been thinking,
It's been two things that's been on my mind all year long.
Boundaries, meaning setting boundaries.
It started with me reading a Nedra Toab Glover set boundaries, fine piece.
Setting boundaries, but also I read a book called The Big Leap,
because self-sabotage is at an all-time high, man.
Yeah.
Like, I've seen so many people self-sabotized this year that it is unbelievable.
And this is just the latest case of somebody self-sabotage.
And it's very, I don't even want to say sad.
Sad isn't the right word because it's expected.
Like we all saw this coming.
But there is nobody to blame for this situation other than Kanye Omari West.
Yeah.
He did this all to himself.
He made every single one of these choices.
All of these choices were rooted in bigotry.
Everything from the White Lives Matter shirt to the anti-Semitic comments.
you know, even what he said about George Floyd,
and that's not the, we all know that's not the way George Floyd died.
Those are white supremacist's talking points.
Everything is rooted in bigotry.
So to see this happen, it's not a surprise to me.
Are you surprised that it's going down like this?
I'm not until this, I wasn't until this morning.
Why?
Because I spoke to someone and what they said to me is that,
and they believe this backfired.
Don't get me wrong.
but they believe that he was the goal of all this
was to get Adidas to drop him.
I do not believe that.
I don't know why people keep saying that
I've heard that talking point.
This was not any strategic marketing plan
to be dropped by anybody.
Why would you want to go out like this?
Because here's the thing.
If you go out like this, you can't do business nowhere else.
Again, again, it was executed poorly
because now the brand is so radioactive
he might not be able to do anything.
Yeah.
Right?
And it might be an incredibly stupid decision for multiple reasons, right?
He didn't just lose Adidas with this.
No, he lost everything.
That's what I'm saying.
But the other things didn't provide him as much money as the Adidas thing.
So I think what a lot of people don't understand about the Adidas thing is that he gets a royalty for all the sneakers.
He owns Yeezy 100%.
That's not what they said this morning.
This morning they said that they, I'll read, keep talking.
I'll pull up the article.
Okay.
So my understanding is that, well, yeah, that's basically kind of what I was talking to.
So basically it was a licensing deal.
So Adidas does everything for him.
Right.
Now, it's a brand marketing deal.
Sure.
Yeah.
So, but Kanye owns his trademarks.
And eventually the, uh, the trademark is going to expire and then, or the licensing deal expires.
And then he reups and has another licensing deal with Adidas.
I think what he was very frustrated by was the fact that he had bosses.
So Kanye wants this thing.
He wants somebody to give him all the money, create.
all the infrastructure, do all the thing, but then he doesn't want anybody to tell him what to do.
And that's not how the world works.
There's somebody that gives you money.
They get to tell you what to do.
It's very simple.
I don't understand why people even look at it like that.
You got a partnership.
It's cool.
Regardless, if you have a partnership or not, if you do have a partnership, a true partnership,
that other person is going to have a say.
That's what a partner is, right?
You have a marriage.
The other person has a say.
That means sometimes they're going to tell you to do things that you don't want to do.
And sometimes you're going to tell them to do things you want to do.
And then you guys work it out.
He does not want that at all.
So what I was told is he was trying to force their hands.
Now, in trying to force his hand, he might have made himself so radioactive that nobody
wants to do business with him at all.
Because at the end of the day, when you really think about it, Adidas made all their clothes,
distributed all those clothes to their millions of people, right?
They have thousands and thousands of stores that people can just walk in and buy shit from, right?
They have the infrastructure.
They have the relationship with the factories out there in China, right?
they have the relationship with the materials,
they can do all the things.
Kanye, like he says,
he goes, I'm a visionary, I'm a visionary.
But what he means by that is,
I don't do nothing.
You know what I mean?
He creates.
I think.
And that's fine.
But I don't do.
That's enough.
You create the design.
But you need a billion dollar company
to do all that doing.
Now, if he does it himself,
like if his idea was,
you know, let me get Adidas the fuck out of here.
I'll take all over the sneakers.
I'll have the clothing brands.
I got it.
Here's the thing.
He needs either his own cash, which who knows if he has enough,
or he needs to find cash from somewhere else to not only create that infrastructure.
He had thousands of employees with Adidas, thousands working just on his shit.
Probably could get a line from the bank you was with, but, oh, they've done.
They kicked you out too.
So maybe the Saudis give them some money, maybe some Middle East people give them some fucking money.
But who's going to give the guy money who's just going ham, for lack of a better word, on the Jews?
And that was good.
Chosen one.
When you got it, you got it,
what you're supposed to do, man?
You know what I'm saying?
So who's going to give them the money?
If he doesn't have his own money,
we all know he doesn't like putting his own money up.
Well, he did that.
And he failed.
Yeah.
This is what Adidas said.
It's after a thorough review.
The company has taken the decision
to terminate the partnership with Yeh immediately,
in production of Yeezy branded products
and stop all payments to Yee and his company.
So that's the crazy thing.
Hold on that.
Can I say one thing on that?
The stop the payments is really interesting.
No, it's not.
Well, I want to hear your perspective.
Okay.
But the thing about the payment is those payments are money that's already do, right?
So the reason they're stopping payments is because they think that there's going to be a tough negotiation ahead to see how they're going to separate these businesses, right?
So he gets a royalty.
That means you get $5 on every sneaker or $30.
It doesn't really fucking matter.
So that's money owed to him.
They're holding that money because they're going to work on a separation agreement.
Generally, the separation agreement is, hey, you hurt our brand this much, so you pay us, but we owe you money from your royalties.
Boom.
He'll get his money from the royalties.
Well, they're holding it so that they have leverage.
Yeah.
In the negotiation.
I think he'll eventually get, if he's owed royalties, he'll get his money from the royalties.
But moral clause, that's it.
Yeah.
That's it moving forward.
And it says, Adidas will stop the Adidas easy business with immediate effect.
It said this would have a short-term negative impact of up to 250.
million euros, which is $246 million of net income in 2022.
Yeah, you heard that?
You heard that Europeans?
Your money worth nothing.
Due to the high seasonality in the fourth quarter, but this is what they say.
Adidas added that it was the sole owner of all design rights to existing products,
as well as previous and new colorways under the partnership, and they'll provide more information
during third quarter earnings of November 19th.
Here's the thing, man.
Ego was a motherfucker.
When you get on drink champs and you say things like...
The thing about it, me and Adidas, it's like,
I can literally say anti-Semitic shit and they can't drop me.
I can say anti-Semitic things and Adidas can't drop me.
Now what?
Adidas is ending its partnership with Kanye West.
The German sneaker giant says it does not tolerate anti-Semitism
and any other sort of hate speech.
That was one of the most ego-filled narcissistic comments.
I've ever heard a human make in my life.
And I always say nobody is bigger than the machine.
I don't care who you are.
I don't care who you are.
Don't ever think you too big for any situation.
Yeah.
Because they will show you that you're not in a heartbeat.
And the fact that you would say that for a company like Adidas that is a German company,
the founder was a part of the Nazi party.
Was he really?
Yeah.
I can't remember his name, a D-something.
Pull up his name, somebody.
And then...
Aren't they brothers?
Adi and then Doss?
In Germans,
Germany has done a pretty good job with denotification.
Do you think they're going to stand next to a Nazi?
I mean, I'm shocked that it took this long.
I'm shocked they were the last ones to do it.
Well, they put the deal under review, right?
They put the deal under review after the anti-black comments, right?
And, you know, I keep hearing everybody having this conversation about,
well, you know, nobody's standing up for
black people, you know,
the way Jewish people are standing up
for Jewish people, I'm like, but that's the key.
Where we as black people
standing up for each other?
Where we as black people upset about Kanye West,
anti-black comments?
Because this ain't the first time Kanye has done
anti-black comments.
I hear you. This goes back to slavery with a choice.
This goes back to Harriet Tubman, you know,
didn't free the slaves.
This goes back to, hey, y'all need to stop focusing
on race so much.
Like, were we as upset?
as we probably should have been about those anti-black comments.
Did we, you know, hold Kanye accountable?
Or did we keep buying his shoes?
Or did we keep listening to his music?
You know, did we make excuses for Kanye
when he would have his anti-black rhetoric?
Jewish community didn't play that at all.
And no way, shape, or form.
None.
Yeah. This is unacceptable.
They're not standing for it.
They're not playing with it.
Bohn.
Yeah, I would also say that, like,
Kanye has said that when he gets,
canceled by the media or canceled by these companies. He goes, he's like, this is proving his point
about the Jewish media. He goes, see, look, I'm getting canceled. There must be a Jewish media.
He was on Lex's podcast. Lex was like, don't say Jewish media. Just say media. Like, he goes,
he goes, but see, this is it. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Now, is it though? No.
Well, well, well, I would say this. It's like, we've had owners of basketball teams,
billionaires like Kanye West say racist things. That's right. And what has happened to them?
In a league that's 85% black, bong, bong.
You got to go.
Immediately canceled.
Yeah.
By those other Jewish owners, mind you.
Donald Sterling was Jewish.
I'm saying.
Donald Sterling's last name is Tolowicz or something like.
I'm saying, but according to Kanye, he's like, oh, all the Jews, only Jews own basketball teams.
Well, all those Jews went to another Jew and were like, yeah, you can't do that.
That's right.
Right?
So I don't think that what's happening to Kanye is unique.
I think we've seen it over and over again.
When you say horrible things and you are beholden to massive.
to massive corporations who care about their image,
you get canceled from them.
It's not hard.
It's not rocket science.
It's not Jewish media.
This is the way the world works.
They have to worry about you making their brand radioactive.
So it's in your contract.
If you have a brand marketing deal, it's in your contract.
It's not even just brand marketing deals.
If you're part of a corporation,
those moral clauses are in your contract.
You're there.
Certain behavior is not going to be tolerated.
And bigotry is not going to be tolerated.
You know what I mean?
It's just not.
I just don't think it's anything specific.
to him or this idea of Jewish media. I think we see it happen over and over again is that when
people, now I'm not for cancellation in general. This ain't cancellation. No, I understand what you say. I guess
what I'm just trying to say is he's saying it's something unique that's happened to him because he's going
at Jews. No. We've seen this over and over again with people who have said racist things, right?
Yeah. Yeah. We've seen it over and over in people who have done sexist things. Yeah. We've seen it
happens. You're not unique in this way. And it's happened to billionaires. It's happened to multi-billionaires.
the guy, the owner of the Phoenix Suns,
he got to sell his team now.
It's a matter of who's going to buy it.
Yeah.
Because he said some racist stuff.
The owner of the Panthers,
we forget about him.
I can't remember.
I don't know if he might have died though.
But this was recently in like the past,
he's still alive.
The guy who had to sell his team looked at,
looked at it.
He had to sell his team a few years ago.
He said some racist stuff.
He had to get up out of there.
That's just the nature of the business.
Like you're not going to run around
being a bigot, spewing that kind of bigotry.
and nothing's going to happen.
Lex said some fire shit to him.
He goes,
the Lex interview is really interesting.
You guys should go check it out.
Who program Lex for this interview?
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
It might have been broken.
He had a lot of empathy,
so it might have been Oprah.
I think.
I don't know.
Like,
Lex is Jewish, right?
Yeah, he is.
He's Jewish.
So, which is why it was specifically good.
He's also from Ukraine, right?
So he has, you know, close ties to what has happened to Jews in Europe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Specifically his family.
Yeah.
He killed in the Holocaust.
So it was very interesting to, like, see him talk to him.
There's a couple things.
that I think he brought out of Kanye that I didn't realize before but are now incredibly apparent.
One of which was Dick Envy?
Not Dick Envy, but yeah, you got to see it. It was loneliness and hurt.
Oh, you just seeing that? Now it's so obvious.
Come on, Schultz.
I didn't realize, like there's some moments in the pot where he literally says, he goes,
I don't trust anybody and I only have relationships with people that are mutually beneficial.
And that is this lonely way to live, bro.
And that is like heartbreaking.
That is a lonely way to live.
But if that is how you see the world and that is how you see people, people only are your friends if they have utility for you.
Everything's transactional.
Everything is transactional.
Now you can see why someone would act this way.
You can see why someone would lash out at everybody.
Think about the people who lash out at everybody.
Those people are beholden to nobody through love at least.
Those people are saying, you'll talk shit about your wife.
You'll talk shit about your wife's family.
You'll talk shit about your friends.
Word up.
You'll trash your best friends.
Like, you'll be incredibly competitive with them.
Those type of people are wildly entertaining because they could talk shit at any moment.
But at the same time, incredibly lonely.
He talks about this relationship he has with God.
And now I realize that's the only relationship he got.
We need to start really, really leaning into God because nothing he's doing is of God.
Nothing I've seen him do is of God.
He literally was like, it's just me and God.
It's like, you got.
kids, bro.
Man.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like,
you got kids.
I agree with everything
you just said, man.
And you know,
that's my thing,
right?
I hope that this is what it takes
for him to actually...
Her people,
hurt people like you always say, man.
They do.
And I hope that this is what
helps him to go find some real
healing because
clearly he's hurting,
right?
And I just,
I don't see this ending well.
I, you know,
I feel like he's moving
like a person.
who doesn't feel like he's going to be here much longer.
You know what I mean?
How much longer?
I'm not even doing that, but I just, I just feel like he's moving,
I just feel like he's moving like a person who's not going to be here much longer.
And I also feel like, damn, I lost my train of thought, because I'm really thinking about that.
Hurt people, man.
No, no, he's definitely a hurt person.
But I'm also just feeling like, I'll go on something.
And then when you remember, just let me know.
but I think there's something to this idea that like the immense pain that he probably feels.
And don't get me wrong, he is a musician, okay?
He is a artist.
We all know that there are people in entertainment that have been taken advantage of.
There's no question that he's been taking advantage of in his life, okay?
Oh, in his life?
We all have.
And I'm not saying, listen, there's been times you have, there's been times I have.
We've been taking advantage of.
That is a natural course of the business we're in.
That's a natural course of life in a lot of ways,
especially if you're somebody who has a talent or has value that other people can profit from.
So I can understand that resentment and that complete distrust in humanity manifesting itself in a hate.
And Lex was given telling him one thing that was really interesting.
He's like, don't say Jewish media.
Tell me the people specifically that have hurt you.
Say their names.
That's the brave thing to do.
It's not brave to just label the whole group.
It's brave to go John Davidson or whoever the fuck.
Say the names of the people that fucked you over.
You keep saying you've been fucked over.
Say their names.
Yeah.
You're not saying names for some reason.
It's because he doesn't really have any names because I don't even think this was a fight that he was trying to fight.
He was literally trying to deflect.
He does this all the time.
I tell you all this.
He is on a quest for white validation.
Here's the thing.
And I think that's what I wanted to say earlier.
I'm not sure if this is what I wanted to say, but I think this is what I wanted to say.
Kanye doesn't love anybody because Kanye doesn't love himself.
Kanye loves the idea of whiteness.
Kanye wants white validation.
He really wants to be accepted, you know, by that crowd, by that circle.
And he's willing to be accepted by that crowd and by that circle by shitting on his own community, which he does often.
Which he does often.
Y'all, y'all got to get overraised or, you know,
slavery was a choice or, you know, wearing the white lives magistrate.
You know, what?
Somebody said to me, they said this last week because, you know, it was me, you and Chris
having a conversation.
And they was like, y'allelman, you're too comfortable talking about a black man like that
in front of two white people.
Was Kanye not comfortable wearing white lives magistrate in Paris in front of all them
goddamn white people?
What the fuck is wrong with y'all?
And that's the thing that really bugs me about y'all when Kanye West.
What do y'all see or hear about Kanye that makes y'all feel like Kanye is so black?
There's nothing about Kanye that's pro-black except for his rhetoric when he's in trouble.
He taps in my people when he's in trouble.
That's it.
Whenever he's in trouble, when he's in a situation like this, he becomes the most pro-black person alive.
And this thing, he snitches on himself all the time.
It's so funny.
It's like he's becoming the most pro-black person alive.
And what did he say literally in the interview?
It's, I don't trust anybody unless we have mutual interests.
So he's basically saying, you know, he's, and he, you know,
He's amazing.
Your interest is the empowerment of you.
My interest is getting out of trouble.
So, boom, I got you until I get out of trouble.
That's right.
And he talks off both sides of his mouth because he'll say things like,
it's all of these bad deals, all of these bad deals that we've signed and yada, yada, yada.
But then I'm a multi-billionaire.
You should take advice for me.
Why should I listen to anybody when I'm a multi-billionaire?
What kind of bad deal did you sign to become a multi-billionaire?
Yeah, yeah.
Because I need one.
Give me the back.
Can I have the bad deal?
Have you ever signed a bad deal that made you a multi-billionaire?
Like, come on, man, why do we fall for this shit?
Yeah, that's how I felt when Chris Rock said he was on the spectrum.
And I was like, well, give me you that.
Well, that's probably what makes Rock Rock Rock.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, Taylor, what's the question, Taylor?
Boom.
Boom, boom, boom.
So remember when he got on stage to talk about Taylor Swift not deserving that award and everything?
We were riding with him because it was for Beyonce.
So where was that switch?
Like, he was riding for us and everything else.
You all agree with him?
No, this is something that he's done this is very interesting.
What he's done right now, and I think he's done this before, but he's done what Trump did so effectively, which was he's tapped into counterculture groups that have no famous representation.
And what Trump did is he tapped into certain groups that weren't being represented politically at all.
And all you have to do is give them a boogeyman.
A boogeyman.
You got to give it a boogeyman.
but oftentimes there's a boogeyman out there
that they already hate, but nobody is picking on that person.
So he gives them a little bits of crumbs.
So if you look at the things that Kanye said,
the whole like Jews run the banks rhetoric,
there's a whole lot of people out there that believe that.
They believe that.
And nobody in politics and nobody in entertainment is saying it.
So now they have their guy.
I was speaking because I got a lot of flack for shitting on Kanye, right?
And I was speaking to some of these people who are shitting all over me.
They'll call me a sellout and all this kind of shit.
And I d-a-m-old and I was like,
Lacella.
Because they're like, yo, because you're not supposed to censor people, Andrew.
You're not supposed to call people out.
You're going with the-
Nobody censoring, Kanye.
They're saying, I'm going with the mainstream media narrative, basically.
Okay, it doesn't matter.
Let me get to the point.
So he goes, so they're like this.
So, for example, like, they go, they go, yeah, you're part of the mainstream media right now.
You're just trying to get the daily show job.
They're saying all this shit, which I do not go.
I put that line.
I said, I said that interview.
I said, Andrew shows it the best guy.
Well, you're right.
You're right, but, but yeah, you're right, but I'm not going to.
But I have no interest, despite you being right.
But essentially, essentially what those people said that I was talking to, they go, they go, listen, this is how they start the combo.
I go, why are you guys calling me, though?
It's like, can you explain what you mean by this?
And they're like, oh, you're taking the mainstream narrative.
I'm like, what are you fucking talking about?
And he goes, listen, we all think Kanye is an idiot.
They literally start the conversation like that.
We don't think Kanye is an idiot.
but he's right about George Floyd Fentanyl.
But he's right about the Jews having influence on the bank.
But he's right about this.
So all that is is this famous guy agreeing with this one niche thing they care about that no one else is talking about.
And Trump did that perfectly.
He would tap into all these different groups that had no representation.
And he'd just give them a nod or a wink.
And they went crazy for it.
You saw the anti-Semitic group over the 405 freeway in LA where they got the big sign that says Kanye was right about the Jews.
Do you know what it is?
It's like, what's that even mean?
That's such a blanket statement.
Well, we'll go to it.
But like, you know what it is?
Like, you ever see like an R&B concert, like Chris Brown or even like Drake?
Like they wink at a fat girl on the front row and the fat girl fucking loses it.
You know what I'm talking about?
That's what Kanye is doing to these fringe groups or Trump was doing in the fringe groups.
You just give them a little bit of wink and then, ah, ah, whatever you want.
Right?
Because they get no attention.
Oh, you're right.
You're absolutely right.
So, so I thought it was, it's true, right?
And that's what kind of, so these troops, and then you see this, they're charged up.
These motherfuckers.
I'm saying, man.
But by the way, this is what Chris was explaining last week.
And what anybody who knows history knows, this is what Jewish people are afraid of.
They're afraid of a figure like a Kanye West, riling up these anti-Semitic hate groups.
And anti-Semitism has been rising over the past few years here in America.
Yeah.
That's what they're afraid of.
This, them being empowered, them being emboldened.
Yeah.
Running them back in the fucking caves they were at.
You know what I mean?
Go back to the golf course and go in the holes and go live under the holes.
Oh, Chris, come on, Chris, come on.
Here we go.
Mask off.
Fucking mask on.
I'd just like to start by thanking a lot of the listeners who left comments last week.
This is the most Jewish I felt since I was a little bit.
The anti-Semitism, my God, my God.
I haven't gotten that since I was eight years old.
I've never felt this Jewish before.
You was getting that much anti-Semitism?
that Semitism?
That Jew has his little hat on too tight.
That's funny, bro.
That was funny.
I was like, what are they talking about?
Oh, oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, a lot of Jew hate.
No, it's true.
I did, yeah, we did identify you as Asian for the past five years.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
Sorry to catfish everybody.
But what you were saying, you were saying are not.
I don't mind seeing that.
I don't mind.
I'd rather smoke them out.
You'd rather know who the Jew haters are.
But these guys are standing out in the open.
But they already knew about this group, though.
They know about this group so much that they won't even say their name.
I saw, I was watching one of the news programs and the Jewish people who were discussing it won't even say the group's name on purpose.
Like they know who this group is.
Yeah, this is a known organization.
I can't remember.
I don't, I don't remember the name either, but they won't even say their name.
They're a known organization.
So I'm just saying all Kanye is doing, Andrew's point is emboldening.
people like this. Yeah, I mean, the reality is most people have not met a Jew. Most people have
never met a Jew. Like, so it's like they know nothing about Jews. It's like, yeah, well, I guess.
They don't. They just, they just don't know anything about Jews. It's like, I hadn't really seen
the picture in detail before. I mean, they're giving the Sikh high along. Yeah, they're going crazy.
Yeah, they're doing the hell hitling, everything. So the reality is like the only thing that they
know about Jews is they hear that they run the bank, so they see them in like positions of power and
positions of wealth. And if you do not have those things and you look at your life and you're like,
there's no way I'll ever get these things, that's an easy road for resentment, right? Now all of a sudden,
they're your boogeyman. They're the reason why you don't have these things, right? Sure.
It's like, at least with black people, even if you haven't hung out with black people, they're so
represented in media, maybe not in the ways that you want to be represented, but like you can't
turn on a basketball game, you can't turn on sports, you can't turn on MTV, you can't turn on the radio.
They are blocked into American culture. You're not. You're not. You're not. You're not. You can turn on a MTV. You can't turn on the radio. They are. I think
is because we're blocked into American culture.
You're not turning on a basketball game and seeing a Jewish guy unless he's in the front row.
There's a perfect example I think of, you're Jewish.
Were you offended by any of the things I'm saying?
Because I'm making fun of the racist stereotypes about Jews.
I'm fine.
Right?
The dangerous one is, no, they are in control of government.
Right.
Now you're like, wait, what, what?
Well, that's why I like, I don't like.
I mean, like, it's the wrong word, but I'd rather see what's out there because at the end of the day,
someone like Kanye hasn't convinced anybody
that Jews run the media or Jews are a problem, right?
He's just amplifying like you said.
Oh, this is interesting.
He's amplifying those hysteries
He's emboldening them.
Yeah, maybe 2% of people who heard him say that
were like, you know, I never really thought about Jews that way.
Yeah.
Maybe no, they've been like you said, waiting.
Waiting for someone.
That's right.
Give them and now they're like, thank you.
Let's run.
These guys are ready.
It's like the conspiracy theorist when the Epstein shit popped out.
It's like they've been saying that shit for a minute.
And then finally, once it became the part of the mainstream narrative,
they were like, fine, see?
We've been telling you this guy was fucking kids on an island.
So they went crazy.
It became the mean, became everything.
Now they weren't lunatics anymore.
All those conspiracy theorists during that upstein time became the most logical actors.
Yeah, Pizza Gate was, uh, what, the conspiracy theory pizza gate was justified.
I understand what you said.
Like, you understand why they're what that happened.
You don't think it's justified to walk into a pizza place with a fucking AK-47,
but you understand.
why somebody would believe.
Oh, I wasn't even talking about the shooting.
I was talking about just the conspiracy of pizza game.
Ah, yeah, yeah.
Like, so all of these people that believed, oh, like,
that the Democrat Party are trapped kids.
Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You see where the paranoia came from.
Yes.
Yeah.
I just think, what's the witch?
He, it was all an act.
Kanye West has never cared about black people.
He got on TV one time.
That felt real to me.
That was an, man, that was him.
He was saying that because he knew that's what the moment called for.
You all not understand this is who Kanye West is.
Whatever the moment calls for,
will give you. I watched him in that
Pierce Morgan interview say he's
not apologizing out one side of his mouth
and turn around and say, yeah, I do apologize to the
people with the dead content. He does this all the time.
He'll try to be all things to
all people. That's why he's so entertained.
I mean, say what you want.
Watching the interviews, you'll be like, this guy's a
total douchebag, and then he'll say something, and
you'll fucking laugh. Like I told
y'all last week, it's all fun and games to
let fucking plane lands and the wheels don't come out.
And just a week later, what
we're seeing? We see in a plane land without the
wheels coming out.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That shit is landing on his belly.
Yeah.
You know?
He was worth a couple billion dollars last week.
Now he's worth 400 million.
It's still great money.
Yeah.
But I'm just saying you lost everything for what.
That's what I want to talk about when I talk about just self-sabotage.
What was all of this about?
Well, I think that he's created the hero's journey in his mind.
He has to free his people.
He has to do all this stuff.
Here's what he's going to learn about the hero's journey.
Yeah.
Ain't none of these motherfuckers loyal.
Well, I think he knows that already.
They're laughing at him now.
Well, yeah, that is true.
Now that you don't lost everything and, oh, shit.
Oh, now you only worth 400 million.
Oh, you're not worth a billion no more.
Now they go, now they tie turns and you're the, you're the court jester now.
You were their king two days ago.
Now you're the court jess.
I wouldn't even say that he was their king.
I think he was also their mouthpiece.
What's that trending topic right there?
What is it?
Damn, yay.
Oh.
Because this is what people do.
They're with you when you're riding and you're rebelling,
but then as soon as you get in some shit.
that you can't get out of and you fuck around and lose everything.
Now they're laughing that you calling you an idiot.
Yeah.
Calling you a jackass.
Yeah.
Well, guess what?
I've been consistently calling him a jackass for a few years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay?
I saw this shit coming a fucking mile away.
And I don't, I just hope that, you know,
I hope that he stays alive and heals.
Yeah.
That's what I hope.
Literally.
That's what I hope.
I hope he stays alive and heals.
in heels at some point.
And I ain't even just forget all the professional stuff.
Heels what?
Whatever, you said he's hurting.
I feel the same way.
He's clearly hurting about something.
Yeah, I think that he's,
no, I think Kim sure as well.
Maybe dick size, but like, yeah,
I just think he's like a really lonely guy.
Like, if you have nobody that,
if you're an asshole, who wants to be around you?
That's the other thing.
You're a fucking asshole.
Yeah.
What do you say mean, Dame are assholes?
Wasn't that a line?
I don't, I think Dame is a way,
better human than Conge was this.
Yeah. Because Dame will never make a statement like,
I'm only dealing with you because of mutual interests.
Yeah. I don't think Dame likes transactional relationships.
Right. I don't, that's not what I get from Dame Dash when I've interacted with
Dame Dash and spoke with Dame Dash. I think Dame Dash really cares about people. I think,
I think, uh, that's how life is about, man. No. I mean, life is genuinely,
you can break it down to like, to love, right? You know, that's what we're here. That's
why we have relationships. That's why we have children and like that love is what bonds us and
kind of holds communities and groups together. And for a person that doesn't like to be used
to your earlier point, you don't like to be used by these corporations, but you're letting all of
these white supremacist groups use you? Not only white supremacist groups. Like what you,
and another thing that Lex pressed them on is like, if you're so upset with the system and you're
this genius visionary, create a better version of the system. Like, you had a record label. And
then he was like, but I was just in face only and they was doing it the way that they wanted to do
and it's like, do good music the way you want to do it.
Like, don't screw over your artists the way you were screwed over,
which you were allegedly doing, according to Big Sean and other people.
So it's like, you, what?
What?
Good point?
No, I mean, that's, that Akos brought up that point, too.
It's like, you, you had the opportunity not to do the thing that the quote unquote Jews did to you,
and then you did the same thing.
It's like, yo, you could not make your shit in sweatshops, but you do.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you could not do all the fucked up things that you sang.
that you don't like happen to you, but you do.
Everybody wants a buck, man.
Yeah, I wonder who's, you know,
that's the other conversation that's been happening this week.
Who's really responsible for the content that comes out on these platforms?
The what?
I don't.
Please, please, please, please.
Please, come on.
Just keep it here.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
I don't know what she.
Yeah, yeah.
Taylor's not with us.
Yeah, yeah.
Your hair looks fantastic.
We're not, I'm talking about content as far as,
music and sneakers.
You're just going to ignore that compliment I gave you?
Yes.
It's going to get fucked up Friday when you go on that water, though.
I just want to let you know.
Yes, it is.
You're going to get fucked up.
You're going to surfing Friday.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't know if there's a board big enough.
But listen.
There's, there's, what do you think?
Who do you think is responsible for the content?
Huh?
What are y'all laughing at?
What are you laughing at?
What are you laughing at?
What happened?
This guy
This guy is a maniac, bro.
This guy's an absolute maniac right now.
What happened?
What are you talking about?
That's a good point.
What just did admit that she got more thick than you.
I said that out loud?
What did you say?
What did you say?
I thought that was in here.
Did you?
Keep it in.
Make sure you do not cut that shit out.
Make sure you do not cut that shit at all.
Who do you think is responsible for the content that artists make, music, really music?
Let's keep it at music.
I think there's mutual.
Look, at the end of the day, like, I want everybody to be personally accountable, right?
I want that genuinely, especially the older you get.
I think you have the ability to be personally accountable.
But that being said, it's like there's immense influence, right?
So people are going to dress a certain way because of people that influence them.
And we can't deny that as well.
I mean, right now in Jamaica, I think they outlawed all music.
and TV shows that embrace like gangs and drugs.
Now, they're trying to use censorship as a way to reduce influence.
I think that you get the fucking Streisand effect or whatever that term is
where it just makes it even that much more desirable
because you're pulling it away from people.
But they recognize that there is an influence.
You know, I think even Kanye is trying to say,
is like, I want to create songs that my kids can listen to
and, you know, I want to get away from this kind of like gangster stuff,
which is like he's never really been on it.
Been on a gangsters, which is also wildly convenient.
to say, I did not have to deal with this in my life.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So nobody should talk about it.
I think that, you know, man, there's a phrase called power to the people.
And I think that we keep giving these corporations,
we give these corporations a lot more credit,
and we give them a lot more, we hold them a lot more accountable
than I think we should,
because they're only putting out what they're given from artists,
and they're only putting out what's being consumed by the people.
what they think will sell.
Yeah.
If people didn't want the gangster shit,
and by the way, if people are so upset about the gangster shit,
don't buy it.
If you're upset about the music that degrades women
and celebrates the gang culture
and celebrates the drug culture,
simply don't buy it.
I promise you, if you stop buying it and don't consume it,
nope, the artist won't make it,
and record labels won't put it out.
So ultimately it's on us, the consumer.
I think so.
I think all of this is about outrage of people.
You're upset that, you know, nobody came to the defense of black people during the slavery with the choice comments and, you know, Harry Tumman didn't free the slaves.
Where are the people?
We are the people that are supposed to come to our defense.
We're supposed to hold somebody accountable for that.
Like, if you don't like the gangster shit that somebody is, you know, putting in their music, don't buy the music.
I promise you, the artist will stop making it.
The only reason artists have made this music for the past 20, 30 years is number one.
Yes, the socioeconomic conditions do call for it, but also because it sells.
Yeah.
That gangster shit sells.
People like that gangster shit.
We consumed it.
And not just black people.
America.
Yeah.
Because America ain't even just about hip hop.
America likes violent shit.
We like gangsters.
What's the biggest thing on Netflix right now?
Jeffrey Dahmer.
That's what I'm saying.
We America as a whole likes violent shit.
pop culture is violent.
You can go back to the old school,
westerns, cowboys, and Indians.
It makes sense.
Mafia movies.
We're rebels.
Everybody who's here is a descendant of a rebel.
They left their country.
They left their way of life.
They left their people.
They went out to have a new life and they have to push back.
And you've got to fight for yourself in order to make that new life.
You probably had to do some illegal shit.
Ain't nobody came here back in the day and did everything by the books to make it.
Yeah, yeah.
Everybody scrapped and they did a little.
Look at the Kennedys.
They're a fucking Coke family.
Bro, every single.
Coke. What is it? Opium. No.
Bootlegged. They were rum runners.
Rum runners. Exactly. It's like you look at all these like refined, distinguished
families in American history. You could boil them all down to selling either drugs
or alcohol, which wasn't a legal substance at the time. And there was some murders that
happened. There was some people doing it. Yes.
You can't, what they say, you can't make an omelet if you don't crack a few eggs?
Yes. That was derived from white people
killing each other. Yeah. I just made that up. But that shit sounded good.
Yeah, it is. You know what I mean? Because eggs and whites.
100%.
But my point is
we keep acting
like hip hop is the only genre of music
that profits off violence.
That's not true.
That's the American fucking way, bro.
We don't act like that.
I mean...
Well, no, no, I know.
I'm saying some people in...
Rock and roll is the actual culture.
Some black people act like that.
Oh, got you know what I mean?
And they're pointing the finger
at the record executive
and saying, oh, the record executives
need to do better and blah, blah.
I think that it really is on the artist
and the consumer.
Yeah.
Like the artist makes these...
And by the way, even when they say that,
right? They talk about the record executive. What about these people that are independent?
They're making the same type of music. You know what they're making the same type of music?
Because that's the type of music that's playing in the club. That's the type of music that's selling.
That's the type of music that they feel like they want to make. And that's the cycle.
That's the cycle. That's the cycle. So you can't just point the finger at the record executive.
It's like it's not like record executives are sitting there saying, I need you to make a record about murder.
Yeah. I need you to make a record killing.
Having been in not a record executive, but having been somebody who was in charge of putting together a playlist at one time, I didn't listen to a single fucking song.
Right?
I just was, okay, this is what is playing.
This is how we're going to rank it.
I mean, it's, you know, and I think the irony is,
I think consumers are in a better position now
than they've ever been to make those sort of choices.
Because at least when I was growing up,
you could argue I didn't have a control over what was on the radio, right?
Like, they were just feeding that to me.
And then I get hooked in.
You decide now.
And when you give us the freedom to do it,
we actually make decisions that are a little bit better for ourselves.
You know, like McDonald's don't want to say,
salads, but shit got sticky over there.
I said, like, all right?
Super Size me documentary.
Exactly.
So now we got to get a little healthy, right?
So the more options we have.
But you're right.
At the end of the day, it's like we decide what we consume.
I'm old enough.
I was born in the 1900s, 1978.
I'm old enough to remember, you know, there was a time, none of that shit was in the
music late 80s.
Rakim wasn't talking about that.
It was there.
It was just more balanced.
I think it was a lot more balanced.
But it's like, Rakim, sick Rick, the Big Daddy Keyes, the Public Enemies, the KIRS
ones, and then you had NW.
the Goody mobs, the Outcast, NWA came in like late 80s, early 90s, you know what I mean?
And when that shit started selling, that's what everybody started doing.
When the West Coast took off with that gangster shit, that's what everybody started doing.
Yeah, but it's also like a reflection of like time as well, you know, like if you're rapping in the 70s, that's the end of the disco area.
Everybody's getting out of this war.
Everybody's having fun.
They're doing drugs and everything's cool.
80s is the crack era.
So you get violence.
Social economic conditions.
It music reflects that.
Exactly.
100%.
Yeah.
And then by the way, and there's all, there's all.
always been balanced. It's just about what you want. Now, to Chris's point about the error that we're in,
the balance is definitely there. But if all you do is listen to maybe the radio sometime, you know what I mean?
You might hear a little bit more future or whoever than, then Kendrick. You know what I mean?
But it's not like Kendrick don't exist. It's not like over the past decade. The three biggest
rappers of the past decade, three out of the four, ain't on none of that.
Jake Hall ain't on that shit.
Kendrick ain't on that shit.
Drake,
Drake ain't on that shit.
Huge is definitely on that shit.
You know what I mean?
I mean, Drake on it a little bit.
Not really.
Yes.
Drake has some songs that are about like,
you know,
you could get shot up to.
Say again?
He's an album 21 Savage.
My God, he's 12 years in the game.
Can he make one killing album?
I'm okay with him making a bunch.
12 years in the game, y'all.
I'm okay when he's making a bunch.
He's giving us a bunch of.
love songs and regga tone
like Drake is giving us every genre
if you want to put out a end
and by the way we don't know what 21
album gonna sound like the shit the title is
uh
it's her loss or some shit like that
yeah no Drake is the motherfucking goat man
like he's up there I ain't I'm not gonna knock
all I'm simply saying this generation's
undeniable like who's close
to Drake
this generation it depends it depends
it depends what you call it depends
what you're based on it on you know you never at a party
you'll throw on that Kendrick bro yeah but you
that you throw on that future.
Future, yeah.
Future right there.
Future, yeah.
I mean, Drake is still a bigger artist.
But Jay Cole, no.
Culturally influential?
Future right there.
Oh, no, I think musically influential.
I agree with Kanye.
I think I said on this very podcast,
I was like the most influential rapper
in the last fucking 10 years
or whatever it was, I think is future.
Just the way that people rap
is differently because of him.
Yeah, yeah.
And I completely agree that.
Yeah.
I just want us to all stop
self-sabotaging, man.
Yeah, self-sabotizing.
That's the thing that everybody needs to sit back and study about this situation.
Yeah.
All of these wounds that have happened to Kanye West over the past couple of weeks of self-inflicted.
He didn't, nobody did this to him.
Yeah.
He did this to himself.
Those words were choices.
Those actions were choices.
Y'all can sit around and try to blame these boogey men and say, this person did that,
this person did that.
It's because this person didn't control and this person's about.
No, he did that to himself.
Yeah.
I think so, anyway.
Well, let me, because you said,
something about the hero's journey, right?
Like he's trying to slay the dragon.
But being a victim part of the hero's journey,
because that's what I hear from him, right?
Like, I'm a victim.
Yes, that's what he's doing right now.
These things have been done to me.
Yes.
You know, and I'm like, I don't know.
Like, where does that come from?
Narcissism?
Because that's what narcissists do.
They want to have self-pity and they want to be a victim in a mess that they
want to be a hero and a victim in a mess that they created.
Yeah.
Yeah, in order for people to root to you for you, you have to be going up against a more competent foe.
Right. Nobody's going to root for you as the bully.
Right.
So he has to create, you know, even if it's like the Jewish media sounds like a bigger boogeyman than Dave Silverman.
Dave Silverman screwed me over whoever, sorry Dave Silverman, I don't know if you are a real person.
But like, he sound, that's way more dangerous, this ominous looming.
organization than just these two lawyers that might have fucked them.
And here's a reality.
They're going to be people that fuck you in business.
Jews, non-Jews, Muslims, Hindus, everybody's going to, not everybody, but there would
be people to fuck you.
And that's the lesson that you have to, that's why community is so important and friendship
is so important.
Because when you find those people that you truly believe won't, you got to hold them
near and dear.
Right.
That's right.
You got to hold them near and dear, man.
It's interesting because when you said that, I'm thinking about it, like if you
even go back to college dropout,
which was probably like when I was most engaged with Kanye's music.
Like, that was the myth that he created about himself, right?
Like, I wanted to be a rapper.
Nobody believed in me.
I had to prove it over and over then.
They wouldn't put me on.
There was this force trying to, and I bought that.
Now, if you look at it, in retrospect,
man, you were in the building with these guys every single fucking day.
Like, you had direct access.
He didn't have the best voice.
You know what I mean?
Like, he wasn't the best rapper.
for like the pushback.
He had the best goals riders.
I can relate to Kanye in that way
where it's just like I had a lot of success
in like traditional TV,
but I wasn't getting opportunities in comedy.
Right.
You know what I mean?
And then sometimes being so close to it
and not being allowed is even more painful
because you're like, wait a minute,
I'm here.
Right there.
I'm right here.
Whereas the person who's not even in the room.
So I can understand where that starts to play,
that journey starts to like happen
in your head. We're like, they're not going to allow me.
They're not going to do it. And how motivational that is.
Every boxer, I imagine, the beginning starts to build this backstory about who the person they're
about to fight is. We know Jordan would do that all the time.
Oh, they really think that they could stop me.
And I took that personal. And I took that personally. So maybe he's using as fuel for his fire.
The Russell has a great album title. And his album title is, I hate it when life's great.
And, you know, some of us deal with that. Like, you know, some of us go to therapy.
and that's what we talked to our therapists about,
because when things are going really good,
if you're used to, you know,
if you have a certain level of PTSD
and you're used to bad things happening all the time,
when good stuff happens,
you can't even allow yourself to enjoy it.
Yeah.
Because you're like, it isn't going to last.
Something bad is going to happen.
Like, this is a mirage.
This isn't real.
Yeah.
I feel like that's where, that's what he was at.
Yeah.
It's like, my dad used to call it,
I don't know if this is a technical term of besieged mentality.
Yeah.
Like you, and I have that.
sometimes. Like I have a fantastic life.
I hit the fucking lottery. You can't tell me
at the same time I don't always feel like there
are a million knives. You know, like I just constantly
kind of see the world that way.
And I think that's
probably what he's suffering from. Like the sense
that no matter what's happening,
no matter how great it gets,
I'm under attack. Yeah. The barbarians
are at the gate. If I don't fend them
off, they're going to come in and, you know, like
and maybe it fuels you. Keeps you on your
piece of cues. Yeah. I just
man, I just don't like the self-sabotize. And
I think there's a lot of different conversations happening at once.
But the moral of the story is Kanye West is a Nazi.
You know what I mean?
Hey, I'm calling him KK. Kanye because by textbook definition,
if you go after black people and Jewish people in a couple of years,
you're a goddamn Nazi.
I don't want to call him a Nazi.
I don't want to call him Hitler.
Like obviously, I didn't call him Hitler.
Nazi behavior, though.
Sure, sure.
I did those jokes in the rant.
And then people are like, you're calling him Hitler.
and I was like, no, and I called him Hungry, Hungry Hitler
because it's a pun.
It's like a funny thing to say.
But what I do push back on is when we get into this world.
How do we know he's not Hitler, though?
Well, think about Hitler's origin story,
which I've been reading about this week.
That's what I'm saying.
He was an artist that wasn't appreciated.
He was not even an artist.
What he really was, was homeless for a long time.
That's why Kanye even dressing like that.
Now we're getting somewhere.
Let's go, Chris.
Unpacked.
But you get what I'm saying.
Real quick, because I'll do what I'm saying.
If we start calling everybody a Nazi, nobody's a Nazi.
It loses its impact, right?
It gets diluted.
Is this not Nazi behavior at all?
No, Nazi behavior is incinerating all the Jews and trying to wipe them off the planet.
I don't think that's what Kanye said at all right.
He's flirting with Nazi rhetoric.
Okay, all right.
He's flirting with Nazi propaganda that was used to convince people to be okay with removing all the Jews from the planet.
I don't think that Kanye's end goal is to remove all the Jews from the plan.
I agree with you.
But guess what?
Is that fair to make that distinction?
I get what you saying.
But if you lead to the rhetoric of somebody that decides, yes, Kanye's right.
Now I'm going to start taking black people and the Jewish people out.
Yeah.
You sparked that.
No, that's 100%.
You sparked that?
That's 100%.
But I just am delicate about calling everybody a Nazi or calling everybody Hitler, like literally.
because then when there is the real one.
But you don't get,
but you don't get to the real one.
If you stop it out now and label it now,
you'll never get to a real one.
True.
That's a good.
Which is,
which is,
for me it's Trump,
right?
Like I've been very quick to call Trump a fascist,
a Nazi Hitler because I think.
But Trump is so pro-Israel and like his kids are Jewish.
Well,
I mean,
there's a whole,
Jews fuck with Trump.
That's what I was about to say.
There's a whole, right now Jews are very much on the same page, right?
Like Kanye's bad.
There's a whole other conversation that doesn't happen too publicly within the Jewish community
that needs to take place with the fact that there are, I mean, you can look, you know,
whether it's Stephen Miller, Trump's speechwriter, whether it's the guy Lee Zeldon who's running
for governor.
Yeah, and reference book.
Yeah, I mean, these are guys who I think are getting.
in bed with fascist forces.
And that's another conversation.
And it's complicated. It's nuanced.
Just the same way that, you know, what's anti-blackness within the black community is complicated.
Like, where's the line?
Like for the Jews right now, the line is very clear.
But if we're being real, once you go push beneath the surface a little bit, it's not everybody's on the same page.
You just said it's very real about the line, right?
Because when it comes to black people, we don't, it seems to not know what the line is because slavery was a choice.
that didn't seem to cross the line.
Harriet Tubman didn't free the slaves
didn't seem to cross the line.
Flirting with fascism by giving Trump
a lap dance in the White House
didn't seem to cross the line.
You know what I mean?
It's the truth.
So it's like getting on drink champs
and saying, you know, George Floyd,
you know, died of fentanyl
and the cop didn't have his knee on his neck like that.
That didn't cross the line.
So it's just like...
Can we clarify that a bit?
Because I watched that whole fucking Candace Owens documentary.
Did you watch it?
No.
First of all, and I was, that kind of time.
I said this on, I said this on flagrant, but like,
documentaries are more dangerous than guns, bro.
Like, I would let every person have a gun before I let every person make a documentary.
So this shapes your thoughts.
Like, a gun only makes you think something when you pointed out.
Do you what I mean?
You know what I'm saying?
If somebody's like, did George Floyd defends and all?
You'd be like, uh, sure, as long as that gun is point.
And then when that gun goes away, you ain't dying of fentanyl.
But a documentary will actually make you feel a certain way.
Now, I watched it.
The fentanyl thing is very flimsy.
Incredibly flimsy.
He had low levels of fentanyl and meth in his system.
It's regardless.
Very low levels.
It's regardless.
It doesn't matter what the levels are because there is one person that said that he had lethal
levels in the system, one of the corners.
But you don't know what lethal levels are for his system.
Okay?
I was at Burning Man.
Every person there is on lethal levels of drugs.
They're not done.
This is also a user of the drug.
So he might have a higher tolerance.
Okay?
And I was trying to make this point on flagrant.
I don't know if I did it that well.
But basically, now all of a sudden, when something's in your system, that's the only thing that kills you?
Because during COVID, the same exact people were saying that bodies were overreported, right?
They're just because you're old and you have COVID doesn't mean you die to COVID.
Just because you're a car accident and you have COVID doesn't mean you died of COVID.
Right?
But now when there's a little fentanyl on the system, that's the only thing that could have killed you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The guy had an enlarged heart, and most importantly, another person put pressure on his body,
called his neck, called his back, it doesn't matter.
While his lungs are on the ground, restricted his breeding by putting pressure on his body.
Okay, was he choking him out in an MMA way?
No, but was he putting pressure on his body to restrict breathing?
That's how he died because his disc got crushed.
That's an autopsy saying.
No, forget the doctor.
Go look at the real medical, you know, they declared it a homicide before.
Cardio pulmonary arrest is what they called it.
Yeah, because of the pressure that was on his neck.
I personally, and I'm no fucking scientist, I think it wasn't the pressure on his neck.
I think it was the pressure on his chest and lungs.
Like, remember when we were kids who play that game where you go up against a wall and go like this and someone pushes against, you take a few deep breaths?
Yeah.
They push against you, you pass out for a second.
I think that happened to him for eight minutes and you just don't come back up.
And he had in a large heart, so he can't already pump the oxygen through his body that he needs.
Either way, the cops killed him.
Yeah, 100%.
And for anybody to go out of their way to try to disprove that the cop didn't kill him when we watched it with our eyes.
Well, what it was is- How much do you hate your own blackness?
Well, no, it's not only that.
It's like there are people that are anti-Black Lives Matter, right?
And they see this as the start of Black Lives Matter because it was, right?
It was the reaction to this that blew up Black Lives Matter.
Now, the people that are upset at Black Lives Matter, the organization, have every right to be.
Yeah, but you have a better case with that.
You could do a whole doc.
But you're asking people to be rational when they're not.
By the way, George Floyd shouldn't have anything to do with this.
You could literally say, hey, Derek Chauvin.
But it's fear heads the movement because they're using his death to raise money.
But it's because the cop killed him, the cops in jail for 70 plus years.
And another interesting thing about-
And the other cops just played, one of the other cops that's pled guilty this week or last week.
Oh, I didn't know that.
But another interesting thing about Chauvin is if you look at what he was charged with,
because Mark went over the charges.
And the charges, after watching the Cannes documentary,
you wouldn't even dispute.
They're not saying he premeditatedly looked and found him.
It was involuntary manslaughter, murdering the third, and one other one other one.
But it's like, yeah, this is what happened.
He didn't go out there and try to kill the guy, but his behavior is the reason why he's dead.
That wasn't his first body either, though.
Oh, no, no.
He killed somebody in the line of duty before.
Well, I mean, that is part of the job.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't.
I'd have to see what happened with the other situation as well.
I guess what I'm saying is, even after watching the documentary,
because I got so much pushback about this fentanyl thing.
I was in no way fucking convinced.
But I watched the whole fucking thing,
and especially focusing on that fentanyl part.
Now,
criticized Black Lives Matter of the organization
all you fucking want.
What they did with that money
is absolutely hysterical.
Like, hysterical.
You spent two and a half million on, like, trans dancers.
Makes it.
Say it legend,
because I don't know if that's been proven.
No, proven because the IRS reports
where the money goes.
I heard that stuff in the docket.
I don't know.
I haven't watched the doc,
but I heard a lot of that stuff in the docket.
See, docs need to be.
And that's why she, that's why, you know,
remember Candace said last week, she might sue George Floyd's family
for the distress that they're causing her over potentially suing her.
It's weird.
It's just some convoluted.
What's the larger play for the documentary?
Like, okay.
To make Black Lives Matter look bad.
Okay.
And they could have just done that.
Black Lives Matter has given,
there's enough things there with the Black Lives Matter organization
where you could make a doc,
the show the fissiness of that organization.
Yeah, but this is also like personal vendetta because she got so much flack for coming out and saying that George Floyd was a piece of garbage person and all this other stuff.
None of that means.
100%.
None of that means.
And even if you do believe that he had fentanyl in his system, you definitely do not believe that the police have the right to kill a man because of that.
That's right.
And by the way, if that's the case, let's go to some of these white neighborhoods where the opioid epidemic is through the roof and these white kids is on meth all over the roof.
Don't talk about my people.
Let's go to some of these neighborhoods and just start taking people out
and let's see if people say things like, oh, they deserve it.
They're just a bunch of meth heads.
Right.
Oh, they deserve it.
They're just a bunch of opioid addict.
Right.
Like, come on, man.
We know what this is.
And that's exactly why they have a Black Lives Matter movement.
Yes.
You know, not the organization.
The movement.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
But I just, I just, as far as the Kanye thing, man, I say it again,
anti-black rhetoric, anti-Semitic rhetoric.
People are upset that people haven't been speaking out about the
anti-black rhetoric. I just think it's wild to blame other people for not standing up for us.
If we would have raised hell like other folks and we would have held Kanye accountable,
then some of those corporations might have moved the same way.
That's a fact.
You know? Who knows? But by the way, we'll never know.
No, because you do it. Not only, we didn't do it and we're still, there's people still defending him now.
Everybody, he's a grown-ass man. He got to deal with the consequences of his actions.
Kanye West don't need nobody coming.
to his defense.
Do you think, you know what Kanye West needs?
Healing.
But do you think that when your dick is that enormous,
you don't feel like you can do anything?
I don't know if his dick is that enormous, bro.
I don't think he got nothing on meaty-pity, bro.
You don't, I don't think.
You know why?
Because we ain't heard it in the streets, bro.
Kanye had been out here a long time.
How long Kanye been out here, bro?
I think he's been out a while.
Kanye had a couple decades, bro.
If Kanye had to meet him, if Kanye had to meet easy, we would know, bro.
But, dude, he's got to have a huge dick, dude.
Salute the Tesla Figuro.
Tesla Figuro coined the term meaty meaty pete when it comes to Pete Davidson.
I don't think easy got it.
You don't think easy got it?
I don't think you got it.
He claimed it on college dropout.
He's saying he got the biggest.
Insect.
What was it?
You don't listen to lyrics, Chris?
Now all of a sudden you can remember this.
I said college dropout.
I was the last one.
What was it?
Something about insects in Texas.
My dickhead is bigger than insects in Texas or some shit like that.
Last call.
It was on last call.
Well, somebody can go fine.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't compare your dick to an insect.
Yeah.
In Texas, though.
If your dick is an insect, everything is bigger in Texas.
If your dick is the insect, then Pete's dick is the lizard that eats the insects.
He feeds off them goddamn insect.
Jesus.
Jesus.
Jesus.
Jesus.
I really, I really do hope.
I don't know how this ends, man.
How do you think this ends, man?
Oh, man.
Yeah, no.
I don't know. I think that he's, I think Kanye is entertaining enough where he can keep talking and people who keep listening. And then I don't know if he'll get backing to do his own thing. He might have to put his own money up for it. And the problem with him putting his own money up for it is that a guy like Kanye who's like a true creative, what makes him great at be a creative is what makes him bad at business. And that's why he needs a partner with these companies to be successful. The things that he does by his own by himself are not successful. The things that he does with other.
people who are businessmen are because the businessmen get to step in and they go, hey,
lunatic, you just made us make a hundred different sneakers.
Now you're saying, now you're saying you don't like any of them.
Too bad, we're going to put some of these out, you know?
Yeah.
So that's, he's going to be part of the conversation for the rest of my life, unfortunately.
Yeah.
Better for worse.
He's not.
I don't, I don't.
I just don't know who will give him the money and who will create the infrastructure.
And if he does go on his own with Yeezy, it will have to be literally.
bro we're talking all jokes aside yeah everything y'all talking about is like 10 years 15 years down the line
like this this these one of those kind of messes that it takes that long to clean up well it's gonna take
multiple years for him and even get out another line with easy like what yeasy like his brand bro there is
no yeasy what yezy there's it adidas has stopped production yeah only thing i hope is that those
slides don't become a symbol of hate oh no those are the mess that's the new maga hat please that's a new
Magahat.
Them shit,
it's so comfortable.
I don't want to wear crops.
Wait,
that's how,
that's how Republicans
felt that
that's a great hot.
That she wasn't fired.
No, dude.
Yeah, yeah,
you're crazy right now.
The baghirt wasn't fired.
The design was simple.
The color was too bright red.
The text and font was garbage.
It was cheap.
Yeah,
that shit didn't look funny.
You show what?
You show what you're lying to yourself,
bro.
You know what?
You sound like Kanye
Kanye talking about Pete's dick.
Tah.
Nah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why nobody,
we need Kanye to talk about it.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm gonna tell you something, man.
Yeah, yeah.
When I go back and I watch that Drink Champs episode where Kanye was like, you know,
when Charlaman got on the air and said, you know.
Why are you talking about another man to me?
He said it so calm.
He didn't say it with the confidence of like, I know my dick bigoted Pete.
He said it like, he said it like Kim with Pete because Pete dick bigoted in mine.
He said it like, maybe.
Yeah, yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can I tell you something?
One of the funniest things he said in the Lex interview,
he goes,
this motherfucker's funny, bro.
I don't care.
He goes,
he goes,
he goes,
I knew that Kim could never love Pete.
I knew that.
Oh,
because he's white.
No,
no, no,
no, no.
He goes,
I knew that never,
I knew that Kim could never love Pete.
And it's not because he's ugly.
It's because she likes black guys.
Now,
throwing in the,
it's not because he's ugly.
That shit was such a sneak.
I tell you,
I saw that,
I saw that clip on an academic page,
and it made,
zero sense to me. And I'll tell you why it made zero sense to me. It's not because he's not
because he's not. He named, this is how you know Kanye West wants to be white. This is how you know
Kanye West wants to be white. I saw it on academic page. He goes, Kim got a type. Reggie Bush, Ray J,
me. Me. Don't none of y'all look alike. No, none of y'all fucking look alike. But a white man
would think all black people look like. Don't none of them look like. Then he goes, like me, I got
type. Your girls definitely look like him.
Ooh. But none of them black people you named.
You don't think they look similar. Yeah. Come on. I agree.
Come on, man. They like, they look like, they look like, nothing alike.
They look like before. Nothing at all. And then like Kanye is before. He's the wide,
him having guy. Right? And then Ray J's the middle.
Bring up Ray J. Kanye and then Reggie Bush is the after. And side by side pictures.
They don't look nothing alike.
They look like before, working out after about a year, and then three years are working out.
You're describing the same person.
Before and after picture, the same person.
Ah!
There you go.
They look, no, they're like, it's a before, a middle, and after picture.
It's like, that would be the same person.
Kanye looks like, okay, I got it now.
Kanye looks like a Kardashian before surgery.
And Reggie Bush looks like a Cartagian after surgery.
Right?
Reggie Bush in good shape.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
He's a good looking guy, right?
Reggie Bush.
Yeah.
He's a different league.
What, Texas dickhead?
Yeah.
Chris or whatever fuck, insect dick?
Whatever you said.
You think he got the monster, though?
Yeah, man.
Do the Squarespace.
That's not how the lyric was.
The lyric was, um,
I have a buzz bigger than insects in Texas, not a dick bigger than.
Okay.
Sorry, Connie.
Yeah.
And then also the charges were
second degree murder, third degree murder, and second degree manslaughter.
All for Derek Chauvin?
Yeah.
Damn.
Let's pay some bills.
I'm tired of talking about Kanye, man.
Yeah, me too.
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Church announcements, what you got, Schultz?
Yo, I have a new collab coming out with Yeezy that will be out in, uh,
The MAGA red colorway slides?
I heard about them.
The MAGA had a red colorway slides.
Just check out.
Just check out.
Infamous, if you haven't seen infamous yet, man.
We're very stoked.
Already 8 million views in a month.
So that was, that's just awesome.
Thank you guys so much for the support.
Thank you for spreading the word.
What about you, Charlotte?
What you got?
Same thing, man.
Hell of a week.
Every Thursday night at 11.30 p.m.
on Comedy Central, man.
We just keep getting better and better every week, man.
Cultural institution building one episode of the
the time. How many more apps you got in the season?
I think
we're done right before Christmas.
Oh, so you going all the way through? Oh, yeah, yeah, because we got
extended, I think we got extended after episode
eight. I remember you told me they got the extension, but you
weren't sure. Yeah, we got extended after episode eight. And so, yeah,
we're there until the end of the year. I know Trevor's
last day is the eighth, so I think we might be the next week.
Trevor's last day is December 8th. I think we're December 8th. I think we're
December 5th.
15 for whatever that is the very next week.
And then we'll be back
top of the year. What have you seen
have the most success from the show? Were there any
parts of the show that you think have done really well?
Man, it's interesting, man, because it's just like anything else
that we do, right? It's just about the
conversations, like things like, you know,
like a lot of the panel
conversations, you know, the interview.
Like, it's literally the same thing
is doing the panel? Is it the one-on-ones? Like,
I've seen a one-on-ones go viral.
Yeah, like both. Like last week,
last week, you know, stuff from the
even a Smith clip went viral
when he said
you know
he wanted Will Smith to play him
prior to the slap
you know
but now he don't want
Wolf Smith to play him
because of the slap
the killer Mike thing
has been a talking point
for the last three to four weeks
when Killer Mike
literally said
Brian Kim had an effective week
one fucking week
and everybody lost their goddamn shit
like you know what I mean
he said he had one effective week
with black people
that's been a talking point
for a few weeks
um
a lot of
stuff, man. The Michael Cohen.
We had Michael Cohen on last week, Trump's former attorney,
and just even me saying, like,
just me talking about stuff. Like, when I do my act four,
and I'm just up there by myself, like,
Fox News went crazy with the Hunter Biden thing.
When I was saying how President Biden didn't have that same energy
and compassion for, you know, all of those people that he got locked up
in the 80s and 90s.
You know, with Hunter and Crack, it was, you know,
compassion and empathy. And, you know, he's fighting his addiction.
But there was lock him up.
Lock up them crack. Lock him up in the 80s and 90s.
in the 80s and 90s, you know?
So it's just a little bit of everything.
So, I mean, you know, every week is...
Good things to focus on, like, seeing what is resonating.
Because I think it's so hard to tell, like, what resonates through TV
because most people are consuming content at their own time.
That's right.
So it's a cool thing to look at and be like, oh, wow.
When I'm just talking straight to the camera, that's going viral.
Okay, should we bring that up earlier in the show or...
Oh, we do.
I do now.
Yeah, we call it this week in hell.
And I start off with just...
I start the show the way I end the show.
Oh, great.
So it's just me talking straight to camera for a few minutes.
Then we bring the panel on.
Panels on there for the next two acts and the one-on-one guests.
Like the whoopey thing went crazy by the-or.
It seems like those one-on-ones are, I mean, that's part of your genius zone.
You're a great interviewer and you can elicit information that people want to indulge in from your guests.
So, yeah, for me, I don't know.
That's how I always look at those shows.
Like, obviously with yours, I pay more closer attention because you're my brother and I just want you to succeed.
But like, when I'm seeing constant parts of it,
it be viral? I'm going, okay, there's something here.
Absolutely. Put the finger on that.
Absolutely. So what's happening? I appreciate it. And that's it. Let's get back to the show.
Sloop the van. I just saw Van post this and it proved my point what I was talking about. Van
posted this video. It says for anyone wondering why it took anti-Semitism for Kanye to be dropped
by Adidas, this video is from June 2018. One month after the slavery was a choice comment,
there are people in this video who told me personally how lost Kanye was. They were less mad when
invitation came and it's literally like a bunch of black notable celebrities people that i also know
spoke about conier bickshan is in that video as well right you know but they're having a good old
time with you unconditional love thank you thank you very much bro man i'm so excited thank you thank you
thank you family hip pop is the first art form created by free black men and no black man
his freedom, then Kanye West.
There's nothing wrong with that, but you can't have it both ways.
You can't stay.
Oh, this is right after the-
A month after slavery was a choice.
So who held him accountable for that?
Nobody.
They're all in Wyoming?
That's they all in Wyoming.
That's my point.
Like nobody held yea accountable.
So I'm not looking for anybody else to stand up and speak out for blackness and
black issues.
We got to hold each other.
accountable. Simple as that.
Because trust and believe, they do.
Those other communities definitely do.
They hold their own accountable.
Facts. You know? So we got to do the same.
This is a crazy story.
New York City man arrested for fatally stabbing
person who didn't say thank you after holding the door.
A New York City man has been arrested after allegedly
fatally stabbing a man. Taylor Wood put the picture
right over what I'm reading.
A New York City man has been arrested after allegedly
fatally stabbing a man.
who confronted him for not saying thank you.
That's all it was about.
He opened the door for the guy.
The guy didn't say thank you.
So the person who opened the door said,
the least you could do is say thank you.
The guy goes, I didn't ask you to open the door.
Then they both get into an argument, dispute.
The guy who didn't say thank you, ends up stabbing the guy.
That's crazy.
I didn't ask you to open the door.
That's crazy.
Whether you asked me or not, I did it, motherfucker.
I don't owe you a thank you.
Say what?
It's so New York, though.
It is wild, right?
Listen, by the way, if anybody ever wanted to know why New Yorkers are so rude
and New Yorkers don't talk to you and New Yorker, you can say hi to a New Yorker and they won't say shit back,
it's because it's situations like this.
That's crazy.
It's because of situations like this.
I hate it when motherfuckers don't say thank you after opening the door.
But you don't scream at them.
I say, you're welcome.
That's rude.
That's rude.
And that's some New York shit.
Because Angelia and Envy said the same thing.
And I'm going to tell you something else.
That you're welcome can lead to some shit like this.
Motherfuck, you don't know what kind of damn motherfucker.
Who got stabbed here?
The guy who held the door.
Exactly.
Wait, what?
Yes.
The guy who held the door got killed.
Oh, I'm never open the door.
The guy who held the door got killed.
By the way, that you're welcome can be, because you say, you hold the door for somebody.
They don't say thank you.
You're welcome.
The fuck you mean, you're welcome, yo.
The fuck you mean you're welcome.
I mean, you're welcome.
I open the door.
No, no, no, no, no.
Say it with the base you said before.
You're welcome.
All right.
Now you're tussing it.
You know what I'm saying?
Now you're in a person tussling.
My thing is this.
If you are going to do something for somebody,
don't expect nothing in return, man.
You know what I mean?
Yes, common courtesy.
Somebody should say thank you.
But open the door because you're just a nice person.
Hold the door because you're a nice person.
You know what I mean?
Nah, say thank you, bro.
Yes, that would be good in a perfect world,
but this ain't a perfect world.
You know, the only people I tell to say thank you is my kids.
Like when somebody does something nice for my kids,
I do something for my kids.
Like, you know, they'd be like, hey, can I get this?
Can I get that?
You head and tell them?
What do you say?
they say thank you.
Clearly nobody ever told this person
that is a child.
Why are you watching this?
That's terrifying.
Yeah, let's introduce Steve.
Steve is a former NYPD police officer.
So the guy that comes in
with the white.
Yeah.
He's arguing with the other guy
with the black outfit or the talk outfit.
Who held the door?
So the guy with the white shirt held the door.
He doesn't look like the door.
He pushes him.
Oh, wow.
changed, right?
As he runs out, he tries to run out,
the guy with the white shirt follows him.
He's trying to get on his bike to leave.
He rushes him again.
That's when he gets stabbed.
Oh.
So the white shirt got followed him out.
You'll see it now.
If they show the second part of that,
they don't show you, I have the clip to that.
I'll show you guys the second clip there.
So the guy, the guy runs away, tries to get on the bike.
The other guy chases him out.
Again.
So then he stabs him.
I gave the wrong guy, don't care to do it.
I wanted his thank you.
Yeah, you did.
You got to take that back tomorrow.
I gave the guy who got killed.
Don't keep the...
No, I gave the guy who stabbed him don't kill today.
But that was really in self-defense.
I didn't know.
I didn't watch the video.
I just read, see?
I just read the fucking story.
Damn, bro.
Damn, man.
Shit.
Be like that sometimes, bro.
It be like that sometimes, man.
Jesus Christ.
It really do be like that.
By the way, if you start a fight with a guy,
after holding the door for him, how hospitable are you?
You know what I mean?
Why would you start to fight with the guy like that over him not saying thank you?
No, I like that energy.
Because you're from New York.
I'm from New York.
If I'm from New York, I got a lot of shit going on my day.
If I take something out of my day to help you, at least you could do to say thank you.
Yeah.
What else we got, Taylor?
Let's see here.
Nah.
I don't want to talk about more dick.
Taylor said you want to talk about more dick.
Remember we used to do dick talk.
Dick segment.
And this whole podcast is turned into a dick segment.
What I?
This is so funny.
Glorilla responds to little Duvall making fun of her name.
Duval said nobody born after 2000 should be named Brenda, Linda, or Gloria.
And Clarilla took that to heart and said, nobody over the age of 45 shouldn't still have little in their name.
I think points were made on both sides.
But then Dubal goes, but I'm Lil.
But she can say, but I'm Gloria.
Yeah.
Like that's the fuck.
That is an old-ass name, though.
But she didn't pick it.
Yeah, but she picked, Dubol didn't pick his size.
But she picked Glorilla.
This was God's playing, not neither one of them.
Yeah, but rappers changed their names.
Her name is Glorilla, not Gorilla.
I said Glorilla.
Gloria.
That was crazy.
Holy shit.
You need to.
Hold on.
I just realized her name ain't.
Gorilla.
Sorry, it's Glorilla.
I didn't know that.
Sorry, Glowrilla.
I had, I swear.
You were calling her something else?
I was calling her Gorilla.
I don't know what, I was saying,
I don't know what the fuck I was saying.
I was just saying the woman who sang fuck nigger free.
Salute to her.
She's on her way.
Memphis native Glorilla.
Gloria, Hallelujah Woods.
That's a fire name.
I don't know what she's talking about.
Did you see Black Adam?
No, you see it?
No, I hate D.C.
I'm committed to hating D.
What do you mean?
I fuck with the rock, so I'm going to go see it 100%.
I like The Rock, too, but not enough to go see Black Adam.
Now, listen, I will go see.
And Mo Amher's in it too.
That's the good.
They used to do the podcast with Neil, right?
No, no, no, no.
Mo is a comedian?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He's got the show Mo on Netflix.
I'm going to wait until Black Adam comes to HBO Max or some screaming service.
Fair enough.
It'll be on there soon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What else, Taylor?
Maybe do some asking idiots, Taylor?
Hey, let's do asking that idiot
Drake and 21 Savage
got an album coming out Friday
I can't wait to hear that
I really don't
I really do because I like the collaborations
that they make and I feel like 21
be having Drake on some real rapping shit
so I can't wait to hear that
Pull it up Taylor gang
Pull it up Taylor
Back it up Tay
Back it up
What we got? What we got?
Ooh
A B, G
underscore Manko said, what's the best business move you've ever made?
Shultz?
The best business move I've ever made.
That was the question?
Yeah.
A buying back to special.
Without a doubt.
I mean, without a doubt.
No question.
No question.
Also the most risky.
Also the most dangerous.
But also the most lucrative.
But by far the most lucrative.
What's the best business move I've ever made?
I don't know.
But that is how you, the most.
lucrative moves are the ones that are often the most risky. Some people get lucky by just
having a small percentage in a company that eventually blows up. Yeah. But if you want to go all
in on something, the reward of that is, you know. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing, right? I mean,
the beauty about, you know, you doing the special, you've seen an ROI already. Yeah.
So that's when you know if it's a good business moving. Yes, exactly. You know what I mean?
Yes. So some of your seeds might be planted right now. They're planted. That's right. That's right.
So the ROIs have yet to come in, but it's looking good.
I would bet on me.
So instead of that, what would you say the best business move was, man?
It depends, man.
Is there a breakfast club thing, decision that you made that ended up?
I know that you would always push them to keep shit on YouTube.
Probably, yeah, probably, no, for me, probably it was taking the opportunity to work with Wendy Williams without a paycheck.
Yeah, when they told me, we can't, when they said we can't pay you, but we can give you a
a place to stay absolutely positively moving up here from south carolina to work with wendy recognizing
that opportunity even though there wasn't a paycheck attached that was how did you eat what did you do for
food sometimes i didn't you know and um yeah and i just started meeting girls oh you a munch bro
Feed me, you a munch?
I was a munch for lunch.
Damn, bro.
I didn't know you was a munch like that.
I munched for lunch.
Sometimes you got a munch for lunch,
though.
You got a munch for lunch,
you got to bring your munch box to work, bro.
Sometimes you got a munch for lunch.
That's right.
That's right, man.
Okay.
Do you think, oh, this is good.
This is all you folks.
Come on.
M. Duffy 17 says,
do you think that women in comedy are as respected
as male comics, if not why?
They're not as respected and and that's because they're not funny.
That's his opinion.
And he got to deal with the smoke of his opinion.
I'm just kidding.
Do I think women are not as respected in comedy?
I don't think they are.
And I think that's because women as fans are not as big comedy fans.
So in the same way, the WMBA, you know what I mean?
It's like if women really valued stand-up comedy and the female voices in stand-up comedy,
then they would put them on the pedal stool in the same way that they put other creative women on the pedal stool
and speak about them in that way.
You know, there have been women that are incredibly respected and the people love.
There's no question and they're incredibly talented.
But at the end of the day, if they're speaking to the female condition, it's up to women
to say if they're speaking to that condition in a way that should be on that right,
Rushmore. It's not up to guys. It's not a bunch of guys going, yeah, that woman knows
women really well. How the fuck would we know? I got, I got a few women that I put up there, though.
Joan Rivers. Some more for me. I think some more is phenomenal.
Honestly, I think I think black female comics. Oh, Adele Given. No, I think they're far more
respected one by, I think maybe black women are more interested in stand-up. And black men
will definitely go support black female standups
more than white people are supporting white female standups.
But I mean, it was a normal thing.
Like, I remember because I came up in the black circuit a bit as well.
It was a normal thing to go see us some more.
To go see.
Like, it wasn't like, oh, that's a girl comic.
It was that some more.
But we're also acting like the black comics that pop have a big white fan base.
It's only a few to have like big white fan base.
Yeah, that's true.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you're right.
The Rocks.
Yeah, you're right.
Maybe Cat.
Kevin.
Oh, definitely Kevin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin got such a white fan base.
I forgot.
He stopped being white.
Oh, man.
I forgot.
He's not being black.
Yeah, yeah.
I can't wait that his new set comes out, though.
Yeah.
His new set is great.
Rest and peace to Kevin's pops, too, man.
Oh, yeah, I think it's very cool to immortalize somebody that's that important in your life.
because so many people know Kevin's father
that never have met Kevin's father
because of the stand-up.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Because of the stand-up,
because of the jokes that he said about his dad in the special,
about the stories he's told about his dad in the special.
And even if it's interesting,
now I was wondering how his set is going to be now
because when I saw him at the garden a few months ago,
and I haven't spoken to him,
you know, just because, you know,
you give people that, you know, you send your condolences
and send flowers and stuff
and give people their time.
But it's like his new set
has a lot of his dad
in it,
but it's about his dad's health fading.
You know what I'm saying?
So I wonder how much that changes your set
as a comment.
Because people haven't even seen that yet.
That's an hour that he's been working on
in the reality check hour
for the past year and some change.
But a large part of it,
Well, I guess he, no, I see how you can change in that.
And how I think about it.
Because all he has to do is talk about the fact his father passed away
and how his father was in his last days.
Oh, yeah, easy fix.
Yeah, you can switch some stuff up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But salute the cabs and the whole heart family healing energy.
What the heck the 13 says,
what instantly ruined a movie for you?
What instantly ruins a movie for you?
Easy when motherfuckers tell me about it.
Yeah, they gave you the ending of it.
Yeah, yeah.
this.
Ain't no way,
bro.
There ain't no way,
there's just no way it's real.
There's just no way it's real.
I don't know if this is real.
Somebody just send me this.
Is this Fabio Forren's real page?
There's no way.
Somebody just send me a screenshot that says,
Fabio stands with Jewish people.
Spelled.
J-U-W-E-S-H.
Fabio stands with Jewish people, no cap.
J-U-W-W.
E-S-H.
Come on, man.
Oh, really?
This one.
Had.
What Chris said?
That's the original Hebrew spelling.
That's he said.
All right.
Let's do Chris Robertson,
34, man.
Let's get up out of here.
How long do you think you would last in?
Scroll that down.
Taylor.
Taylor,
Taylor,
fingers too thick.
How long do you think you would last
in the gamer throws
out of the dragon's world?
How long do I think?
I would laugh?
Hella.
Hell a long.
I don't even know
I've never seen it.
Oh,
you gotta watch it.
It's great.
That's just great.
Why do you think you'd last long?
It's like Burning Man,
right?
With dragons?
Exactly, dude.
Exactly that.
That's what I heard.
I heard it's like Burning Man with dragons.
It's like Burning Man, dude.
No, it'd be great, man.
And also, as a dude,
I don't have to give birth
and that shit is mad hard in that show.
Men give birth on how's a drag?
No, the women do,
but like, it's hard, bro.
I think it got easier since then.
Really?
Oh, you think?
The fuck, shows?
What?
What?
Was it easy watching your wife give birth?
Hell no.
That shit is always stressful, especially with the black maternal death rate being so high.
Why do you think it's so high?
I have no idea, but I know that, well, I do have some ideas.
I think it's because people think black women have a higher tolerance for pain.
Like with our third daughter, literally, they didn't have any epidurals available.
And, like, what do you mean?
Where'd you do it at?
Think about that.
I was already up.
It's my third daughter.
Were you an Anguilla or something?
No, we was in Jersey.
In America.
In New Jersey.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
And I was up.
It's my third daughter.
This was 2018.
Oh, damn.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like they didn't have no epidurals.
And I remember the nurse was just like, well, the doctor was like, well, the
baby's head's right there.
You just push it out.
Oh, fuck.
You know what I'm saying?
And then after that it was like so much blood.
because
I forgot
I forgot why she was bleeding
profusely so much
but that shit is scary
like
that shit is one of those things
where it's like
everything
isn't okay
until it's okay
you know what I mean
and it's just like
a high level of like
from the time
that water breaks
the whole
well no
before the water breaks
when the contraction start
yeah
and you know
you realize
okay it might be time
it might be time
like oh water broke
man
that shit is fucking
Yeah.
Intense.
But what about squeezing a baby out?
God willing.
God willing.
What do you mean God willing?
God willing.
If I have children, I'll be able to.
You guys, you're going to have a few.
I know.
But I have to,
I don't think it's one of those things you take for granted.
That's one of the things that you look at, you go.
You're right.
You're right.
You're absolutely right.
Um, okay, Taylor.
Get to the mic.
Boom, boom.
You, fuck him up, though.
Fuck him up, though.
Fuck him up.
Yeah, yeah.
Let him see.
Hey? Let him see the hair, Taye.
Fuck him.
Let him see the hair.
That hair's all coming out.
Shout out your hairdresser, Tay.
One wave.
One wave on Friday.
That's all hair is coming out.
God David Tresses.
She's amazing.
Okay.
No, but just for Halloween's sake.
I saw this question.
You all both watch scary movies, right?
Yeah.
No, I don't pay people to scare me.
So you never seen like Saw or Freddy.
If you want to see a fire horror movie, watch X.
by a director named Ty West.
He has a new movie out right now called Pearl,
but this movie, X, it's scary,
but it's also, like, beautifully done,
and it is fire.
Like, he's, like, a real filmmaker,
and watch it, watch it.
Yes, watch it.
X, it's called.
All right, so, what do you think,
or who you think you will survive?
Saul, the movie,
Freddie,
uh,
Jason,
or Mike Myers.
I'm fucking Jason and Mike up.
Yeah, but Saul you can't win.
You might.
No, because aren't the things set up where...
They are, but is just you sacrificing your arms and legs?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck all that.
Nah, but like a Freddie, Freddie, I'm not fucking with that dream shit.
I like dreaming, bro.
Fuck out of my dreams.
But Jason and Mike Myers can get smoked.
I think all you got to do is try to fuck all three of them.
That's what we...
That's what nobody ever tried in those films.
Just start being me.
fucking dick out about your, Freddy.
I went to sleep on purpose.
What's happening?
I've been waiting for you.
I've been waiting for you, Freddie.
Okay.
Jason, I know why you so stiff.
You know what I mean?
Michael, I know what you really want to stab.
Okay?
I know what you really want to stab, Michael.
All right?
He used to interrupt.
He used to kill people when they had sex, too, Mike Myers.
I think he was upset about it.
He killed a gay couple in the last one.
I know.
Homophobic.
Did he?
Yeah, I didn't think it was homophobic.
I thought it was equality.
Okay, right?
That's facts, bro.
Gays can get it too.
That's right.
Diversity.
By the way,
diversity in a horror movie
means somebody's getting killed.
That's true.
What are we talking about?
That's true.
If you're going to have diversity
in a horror movie,
Michael Myers has to kill the person.
And I remember they made a thing about that.
They was like, oh, that's homophobic.
That is not homophobic.
That's equality.
That's diversity.
Why do you think that black people
die first off in a horror movies?
Not anymore.
Yeah, definitely not anymore.
But initially.
They got rid of that stereotype.
But why?
That's a great question
I don't know
I don't know because why we were in the scare movies anyway
because half the shit
we're not going to be in that situation anyway
Yeah I think they killed the course
Because black lives don't matter bro
Whoa
Yeah
That's what I think even in horror movies
Whoa
I thought that was
We're never going to be in chainsaw massac character
Even though they made one with Trace's
Mad black people in Texas
But they're not going to
We're not going to star and trade the truth will be fired
Yeah
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Side note.
Did y'all see the ludicrous one with Queen Latifah?
Which one?
Y'all didn't see that movie?
No.
It's not good.
Anaconda?
You said that shit like it was about to be so fire.
No, because I thought you're going to see, have some.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
Don't you see that movie?
Because it was bad, but it was so bad it was good.
That's how you got to tell people when they got a little dick.
Hype them up just like that.
Yo, have you all seen.
Yeah, have you seen.
You seen Kanye's dick, man.
Yo, have you seen Kanye's dick?
Have you seen Kanye's dick?
It ain't big as Pete.
As always, if you listen to this podcast,
you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent,
you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right.
But if you listen to this podcast,
you think we're just a couple idiots
who don't know shit, you're right too.
It's the brilliant idiots podcast.
Thank you for listening.
