The Brilliant Idiots - Cringe Watching

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

In this episode of The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne Tha God (aka Lenard) shares his wild ride at the Cannes Lions Festival — from celeb run-ins and next-level networking to awkward club moments that sparked a serious (and hilarious) misunderstanding.  The guys get into the importance of clear intros in social settings, how quick people are to jump to conclusions, and what that says about today’s cancel culture. From there, it’s a rollercoaster of topics: meeting rising stars, building future collabs, and breaking down what makes cringe comedy hit (or miss). They also unpack the madness of NYC politics, Trump’s ongoing drama, and how deepfakes and social media are totally warping reality. There's a raw convo on authenticity in entertainment, parenting in the AI age, and what it really takes to grow—personally, professionally, and politically. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Sholamaine the God. We are the brilliant idiots, brilliant idiots podcast back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Andrew is on vacation. Okay, he's on vacation. I just got back out of the country from work. I was at the Cannes Lions Festival. I'll tell you about that in a second.

But Schultz is on vacation. I started to get on a flight and go to where they are because I was in Kansas, France, and they're not too far from Kansas, France. But, man, I was tired, bro. Like, you know, because I was there. for work. I wasn't in Kansas, you know, have a good time. I was there for the Cans Lions Festival. You know, Alex, you asked me something earlier. You asked me, uh, isn't that the film festival?

Yeah. I said, no, Cans Film Festival is something that happens a couple weeks earlier. Cans Lions is where the advertising and communication industry meets and they say they meet to see the world's best work. So you'll have like, you know, thought leaders from, you know, companies and just inspiration from every corner to creative marketing community, they come together. So basically what I see when I'm there is literally all the media companies

across the country, all the media companies across the world, they come to Cairns, France, and they just try to convince every company to spend money with them. And so it's good when you see, like, for example, like Spotify will have, like, Spotify had like Cardi B perform

because it's a big party, so they want the advertisers to come, advertisers see Cardi B. They're like, oh, shoot, Spotify got Cardi B. Like, I-Hart had, you know, you know, Quest Love and Malcolm Gladwell, Questlove did his podcast live, and Malcolm Gladwell was the guest.

But Malcolm Gladwell is actually with I-Hart as well, right? So it's like, I-Hart had this thing called the I-Hart Cafe. And usually what's crazy is, I'm going to tell you our crazy story. They usually haven't, I started going there like three, four years ago for Black-O-Fat I-Hart. and they always have it on a boat. Like it's always a yacht. Like you walk out to this pier

and there's all these different yacht. So you'll see like VaynerMedia got a yacht, NBC got a yacht, I-Hart got a yacht. So all these meetings be on the yachts. Man, they said Jeff Bezos came there last year and Jeff Bezos wanted to put his yacht in the water and his yacht is so big. And I might be getting the story wrong,

but they had to do something called rigging. or is something with a D where they had to either dredging it's probably dredging dredging that's what it is what is dredging Chris I mean it means where they'll go in with essentially like a massive almost like a shovel

thing take out some of the bottom of the ocean floor in this case I'd imagine so that it's not deep enough essentially the harbor his yacht was so big that it probably wasn't deep enough and they had to create space for it that's exactly what it was it's dredging and

That's what they said. I started to tell y'all that they had to put more water in the ocean, but it was, it was dredging. They had to dig deeper so his boat could go there. So basically his boat was so big that a bunch of other companies last year was like, well, fuck it. We're not even going to do no yacht. We're going to trigger something else out. And so Iheart started doing this thing called the I Heart Cafe, and it was dope. I should have took pictures of video, but it's like you literally walking down the strip and you see like this big, they rented out this restaurant and called it to Eye Heart Cafe.

cafe. So literally for the last, you know, four or five days, we with all of the different companies would just come to this cafe and, you know, have, have meetings with us. You know, because, you know, they'll say, hey, this is the talent that's going to be there. Like, they'll be like, Shalame is going to be here. Malcolm Gladwell is going to be here. Ivo Longoria was there because Eva Longoria just invested into IHeart's, uh, podcast network, my Cotora, which I call the Brown Effect, the Brown Effect network. And so it's the Latino podcast network. She just invested in that.

So she was there. And so it was just dope. You know, all of the companies come and they have conversations with us. And we just, you know, tell each other what we can do for each other. And salute to Mandy and Weezy. Their book, No Ho's Bard, comes out June 24th. And it was dope because Mandy and Weezy came out there for the week. And they really, even though I always knew this,

there's a reason Mandy and Weezy are who. they are. Yep. Because when you take the time to say, oh, that's what the money is? Like, that's who I need to be in front of. And you get on a plane and fly to Cairns Lions just to be in the mix and, you know, let everybody at Black Effect and everybody at IHeart know I'm going to be there. So use us.

And that's exactly what happened. Like, you know, they was at the IHard Cafe and, you know, we had a dinner one night. and it was myself and Malcolm Gladwell and Questlove and Eva Longoria and Buck from the Buck and Clay Show because he's part of I-Heart. And Weezy and Mandy just they got introduced to that whole crowd

and got to speak on the mic and they were Weezy and Mandy. They were the fullest. They were everything that you would expect decisions, decisions to be and they had the audience going. And then, you know, they made Eva Longoria come up and read.

By the way, unprompted, wasn't scripted. They had Even Longoria come up and read pages out of no holes barred. Wow. Did she censor herself while reading? No. Oh, wow. No.

They had a whole conversation about masturbation and why it's healthy from that one little situation. So, yeah, it's a dope event, man, for people to be too. I don't, it's not something you can just pull up at, though, because, like, they literally charge you for passes to be at the Cairns Lions Festival and like the passes get you into, you know, different events

and I don't even want to tell you what the number. Oh, wow. It's for these passes. Like, it's, it's ridiculous. Nah, but Bezos really fucked it up for everybody because a cafe doesn't sound as fun as a yacht. Well, I'll say this, the cafe was fun. It was actually, to me, it might have been funner

because the yachts don't go anywhere. Like, so the yachts are just docked. Like, it's not like they go out to, you know, they go out through the water. They just docked. And so, you know, one year, the Black Effect, like two years ago, we actually had a party on the yacht.

Like the first, I think we got there on like a Sunday and we had a party that Monday because everything really kicks off on that Monday and we had a party out there. But it's really just the thing for media companies and, you know, media companies and brands.

That's literally what it's for. So if you're in that space, it's a good space to be in. But, you know, it was just good to see talent like Mandy and Weezy out there just because, You know, it just shows me that their mind is on, is this on something bigger than just being a podcast host

to be totally, totally honest with you. So, yeah, that's where I was. And I wanted to come home after four or five days. I mean, because it's work. It's working. It's fun, you know, being out there building with everybody, but no. No, but I saw there was some play there too because it looked like he was at some party.

I saw a weasy dropping it low on your story. So it looked like you was, I don't know what type of work that was, but there was some work going on. Well, that's, D. Nice does club quarantine out there every year. Every year since I've been there. I've been there for, it's my third time. So I went two years in a row, didn't go last year, and went this year. Every year I've been there, D. Nice has done club quarantine.

And he does it with, what's the name of that company? I think it's group black is the name of the company. So it's like a nighttime event. And it's literally like every black, I would say every black person in cans, but it was totally different this year. because the word then got out about how dope club quarantine is because there was a lot of white people in the event as well. But it also was De Nice's birthday,

and it was my girl Debbie Brown's birthday. Debbie Brown was out there working as well. So she turned 40. And so we was this all in the club last night. She turned 40, what was it, June, what's the day? 19th. Yeah, June 18th. And then De Nice's born day is actually June 10th, June 19.

So we was all in the club last night for club quarantine. Oh, that's fire. Yeah, so weezy was in there being Weezy. I actually had a dude, I had a guy accused me of being homophobic. Why? You know what's so funny? He hasn't listened to an episode of Brilliant Idiots, clearly.

Yeah, but you know what's so funny? I'm going to put this clip in the episode. What's my man's name? I'm going to shot him out too. What's his name? His name is, oh, I'm going to tell you his name right now. His name is Blakely Thornton. You ever heard of Blakely, Blakely Thornton?

Yeah, I had never heard of Blakely Thornton either, salute to Blakely. You know, we were in club quarantine, de Nices party. And, you know, it's sections in this club, right? Because it's in a casino, so it's sections in this club. And so, you know, different people come in and they're in different sections. So, you know, I came in. I was in a section. And then, like, you know, they put J.B. smooth in our section.

So it was, like, me and J.B. smooth. And then, like, next to us was, like, Mary J. Blige and Ludacris. was in a section and then like Steve Stout came in and Steve Stout he was over there with Mary and looted and he came over there and kicked it with us for a little while

so I don't know what the I don't know what it was but they were just putting different people in different sections you know together because it's not like the sections are small and so first of all you know I don't even like the clubs

I hate the clubs right but it's it's Cairns France my wife likes going to club quarantine Dali likes going to club quarantine is Debbie's born day fuck it. We go to club quarantine every year. It's a cool vibe because, you know,

D. Nice is in there playing, you know, old black songs. Like, you know, all the great Negro spiritual. So we end up drinking, having a good time. You know, it's our age bracket. It's our generation. Best case scenario. Best case scenario, right?

And then it's canned. So it's like everybody in there is a professional for the most part, right? So you're just in there having a good time. But it's nothing free. like so you got to buy bottles. So the main reason I hate buying bottles is because when you walk into a motherfucking liquor store and you see something like Don Perion Rose

and it's only like, matter of fact, let me look that up. How much is a bottle of Don Perri-on-Rose in a liquor store? Let me see. Don Parion-Rose. What is that in a store? Let me see. What is that price in the store? Hold on.

It's about three on it. All right, I'm looking at one that says This is for a 2008 bottle Let's just say, okay, let's just say $300. I'm not even going to tell you how much that shit costs in this motherfucking club. But if you say it's $300 dollars, I'm just going to tell y'all, it's like a eight,

it's marked up like eight times. Yeah, that's the club, man. And I'm looking at it, it's in euros. Oh. But now I got to do that. I'm like, yo, how much is euros in American? Like, but it's not that far apart. But the bottle is,

is like, you do the map. If it's 300 stores and I mark it up times 8, you do the fucking map, right? I'm like, shit. So I buy two bottles, being conservative, right? Ended up buying three. Now, as I told you all, they're bringing other people into the sections, right?

So my wife is very small. My wife and Dolly, they was like, yo, close out your card. The reason you should close out your card is because people are ordering things. Yep. And your card seems to be the only one that's on on on file right now yeah you shawlemay you got it you right so so so the way to the

waiter comes over and the waiter's like you know this person or that person i said no i ordered these three bottles of don perion rosé right here nothing else this is what we ordered you know everybody with me they're drinking and having a good time the brother blakley i don't know the brother never met the brother in my life never heard of the brother no disrespect intended he came over to the section. He walks in the section. I remember giving him a pound, right? And then at some point later, well, no, he gave me a pound. And then at one point, the waiter was pouring drinks and the waiter was just, you know, the waiter is sitting with the bottle. He's pouring different drinks for everybody. He's giving people drinks. And I saw him, you know,

wanting to drink. And the waiter, you know, looked at me like, and I'm like, yeah, go ahead, pour him a drink. I didn't care. Like, he poured him a drink. At some point later on, we're sitting down. The brother Blakely is sitting down. I'm sitting there I'm sitting by the bottles, me and me and my wife. And he reaches over. He grabs a bottle and he pours himself a drink. Puts the bottle back. I go, yo, you know you're drinking my liquor.

Right? Because I'm like, yo, this shit was not cheap. And I don't know you. Don't know you. I don't know you, my brother. I do not know you. This shit ain't cheap. And there's no sense that this is an open bar.

It's a corporate sponsor. sort of van. No. What's funny, though, because the typical rule at the club is like, if the dudes, you only touch the bottles that you put

some money up on. But girls are typically allowed to touch the bottle. But he's gay, so I don't know what rule applies to him. I wouldn't need, by the way, number one, I didn't know he was gay. By the way, his sexuality has nothing to do with

this story. The only reason I'm even bringing his sexuality, into it, it's because I'm going to play his video in a minute, and then you're going to understand why, why I bought it into it, right? So even if it was a girl, I would have been like, yo, you know,

you're drinking my liquor. Like, it wasn't, you would have said that, but the rule, the rule, if they at the table, they can touch the law. No, no, no, if you were with me, if you part of the team, if it,

weezy, drink up. Of course, Dolly, drink up. But, uh, my home girl Karen was with me. Dad was with me. Drink up. This is my family. These are my people. I didn't know this man at all. I'm going to play all the video.

Listen to this. Listen, this is what he put. Hold on me fast forward to the part. He did a recap about his time in cans. Hold on. Listen to what he said. Listen. Once back on the corsette, I go to club quarantine.

I have repeatedly been told would be the place to meet Melaniddardin. Upon entry, I am escorted to a section with J.B. Smooth and Charlemagne the God. They immediately get Barrow. The way I used to describe with my black and queer identities are at odds. Woman immediately asked, are you a Charlemagne as if the thigh-high YSL boots don't imply that I am also talented? Then when I pour myself some champagne, Charlemagne says,

You know you drink in my liquor, dog. Look, maybe Charlemagne's particular order was Don Perignon-Rose Champagne in the South of France. Perhaps he paid. But after 39 years from this body, I can feel when I'm getting 50 shades of homophobia. So I stood up and took my happy ass home. I got to see my friends Weezy and me. in the park. I'd already been out all day because baby, when the energy is funny, I remind myself, I'm not here for this shit. I'm here to make money. Roll credit.

What does homophobia have to do with anything? It's their month. They want to take, they won't take no accountability. That is insane to me. That's the only reason I bought up the fact he was gay and I, because he accused me of being homophobic. Because I don't know you, my brother, and because you've reached for this, it's overpriced, expensive-ass bottle that I'm already mad that I paid for? I don't know you. Now, he mentioned Weezy and Neena in this video. If Weezy would have been like, yo, this is my man, Blake Lee, blah, blah, this and that.

Cool, you and Weezy, a friend of Weezy is a friend of mine. A friend of mine. A friend of Nina's is a friend of mine. Yeah. But I don't know you. I don't know you from a can of paint. That was Weezy's fault. That was Weezy's fault. Weezy was supposed to make the introduction.

be like, yo, this is my homie. You think so? Yep. You got to charge Weezy a little bit for that bottle. Tell us told you to do that. I left the comment, right? And I said, yes, I paid for those bottles. The only funny energy you felt from me was who is this man just helping himself to these overpriced

bottles I purchased? What we should have gotten was a proper introduction because a friend of Weezy WTF is a friend of mine, blessings to you. And he said to me, I'm. was highly confused, like, why they lead me to a table paid for by someone else. Yes, all of that is true. I don't know why that happened. But how do we jump to homophobia?

That's crazy to me. How do you jump to... I recognize 50 shades of homophobia. That's great. No, you recognize the 50 shades of a cheap motherfucker that don't know you. And it's like, why the fuck is this man touching these expensive-ass bottles that I paid for? Like what the fuck is going on in the world? Oh, that's funny.

You know, Charlie, you really don't do the club, man. No, I don't. I see. And I understand everybody got to make content, right? And I'm fully aware that we live in this world where everybody got their own reality show going on and we're all just extras in their reality show. But, damn, to go from that,

What happened in the club to making a whole video and turned it in into I'm homophobic? I didn't even think nothing. I didn't even know he was gay. Now, he did have on thigh-high-Y-SL boots. You do he was gay.

No, I didn't. Because thigh-high-high-SLBootch can be worn by anybody in 2025. There's straight men that are wearing. If you know who straight men wear it. Alex, you've got your fingernails painting. I got nail art. I got nail art.

I got nail art. It's the same thing, Alex. It's two different things. It's two different. things. My nails are better than yours, Taylor, because it's nail art. First of all, I got nail art too. Relax. You got paint. Just a red paint. No, I don't. No, I don't. I have design on my nails.

All I see is, all I saw was fashion. I didn't think nothing of it. It's just canned weekend. This dude had on thigh, high, wire, sell boots. I didn't think nothing of it. Like, my mind was not thinking anything about his sexuality in any way, shape, or form. I actually did not care. All I cared about was the fact that I paid for these overpriced bottles. and this man I did not know reached his hand in the bucket and by the way I could have been like yo put that dot in

he grabbed a bottle I watched him he poured the drink put it back all I said was like yo you know you're drinking my liquor did he continue drinking or did he put his drink down? He drank

I don't even think he responded to me you know what I mean that's why I was so confused because he tagged me in that post and I'm looking at the post later and I'm like 50 shades of homophobia that's what we're going on with this

That's crazy. So he shaded you and tagged you in a photo. That is, he got some balls of it. Everybody making content, Alex. Like, I'm telling you. I think he's really blaming the club if you listen to his response because he said they led him to your table. Right. Yeah.

He said they let him over. So I think what he's inferring is, hey, they told me to go sit at this table where there are already bottles board. So my assumption is. I'm part of that. I don't know if the bottles that came in. I really don't know. But here's the thing, Chris, I don't roll with a lot of dudes. Right.

So it was more guys in there. Like, J.B. Smooth had a dude with him. Right. I had, it was, I was the only guy. It was me and the security guard. It was my wife, Dolly, Debbie, my home girl, Bombay, Nina, because all of them was with Debbie. Because we had just had dinner, a birthday dinner for Debbie,

and then walked across. So I'm not even with a bunch of, with women. So what is the, he said it felt like the barbershop. Where? Right. Yeah, that is weird.

Yeah, where? I don't know, man. I just found that very interesting that to weaponize his sexuality where his sexuality wasn't even important in the story. You know what I'm saying?

Like I promise, and Blakely salute to you, I send you nothing but positive energy, love and light. I'm not trying to shade you in no way shape of form, you know, but you know, you got your platform, Instagram, I got my platform, which is, you know, brilliant. It's in the breakfast club.

So I'm just telling the story for what it was. I just did not know you. And, and it, come on now. If you, if you're in the club and you buy bottles, any stranger grab your bottle, you're going to be like, what's up? Yeah. But usually when the girls grab it, you don't say nothing. Because then you just look cheap.

Why are you complaining that girls grab me a box? I don't have no problem looking cheap. I ain't going on with none of you all. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know? And you're not with me. But, you know, we did have a good time, man.

Saluta, you know what I met last night? I met a Lucky Day. I love him. Lucky Day is dope. He's dope. Me and my wife was still a lot of Lucky Day. I just never had met him. I don't know he, I didn't know he, I knew him when I saw him.

I'm like, oh, shit. And so that was dope. And I met, I met Miles from Sinners that played, that played the guy that the The young boy? Huh? The young boy? Yeah, the one that the pit boys was at. Oh, dude.

Yeah, I met Miles. Him and him and love you day. They were both super, super duper cool. Both listen to the breakfast. We both want to come on Breakfast Club. So that, so that was dope. You know, they was dope to meet them. What we want to do?

Do we want to do Asking Nidius? We didn't do no Asking Nidius last week. What should be? I don't know. We want to do. I have some all memes matter. Like, you were trending. I was trending.

I wasn't even here. You already told the story of this like a couple weeks ago. But they just now picked it up. I wasn't even here. What'd I do? I've been going all week. You don't got it. Clearly,

that's not how Instagram works. You don't need to be here to... By the way, Cairns ain't sweet, boy. People was getting robbed in cans. I saw somebody get. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They have like a whole, it's just funny how, like, things work all over the world. Like, you can go someplace and, you know, think just because you're in this affluent place with all of these rich people, you know, everything going to be sweet. But you got, they got these very, I guess you would call them sophisticated, sophisticated watch snatches. Oh, okay. Yeah. And what they do is, they observe your watch. And like, what they told, the security that was with me, homie, then Wilson, he said that the thing that they look for the most is the Richard Millie.

Because the Richard Millie got like the rubber band. Yeah. And they can, they're easily, easy to snatch off. And there's one dude snatch somebody's Richard Millie. And boy, he did not get far. Because somebody tripped him up. And then all the security that was just in the area put the beats on. Woo.

Yes. Because what they do is they say the guy will snatch it and then take off running. and then it'll be somebody on a scooter. So he'll pass it off to the guy in the scooter and the guy on the scooter takes off. All right. This is, okay. Oh, this is when I was with on Maton show.

Yeah. What is this from the neighborhood talk? It says, what the hell? Charlemagne appears on Maton Evans' YouTube channel. The only way that it would look dominant to me is if you was throwing up because you were sucking your own dick. Okay. Okay.

That's out of context, clearly. The neighborhood talk said, well, this was cringe. Do y'all think Charlemagne was wrong? wrong for appearing on this thoughts. How am I wrong for appearing on something? What did I say? That was so long ago. Let me hear some of that Taylor. What I say? Normal levels. Like the guy's throwing up and then

there's no reaction. He's just, he's throwing up at you as a weapon maybe. The only way that it would look dominant to me is if you was throwing up because you were sucking your own dick. Oh my God. You got something about yourself. Because I'd be impressed. Like, oh, he can suck his own dick. And then you're causing yourself to throw up. That would make, that would scare me. I'd be like, oh, shit. Especially if you sucked it and threw up and was like, I'm going to fuck you up.

Let's put yourself some more through up. That'd be crazy. That'd be wild. There's some real disgusting shit, man. Keep it to yourself. I'm just saying. You're just saying? What do you mean?

You just asked the question. You just gave like a whole thing about like a whole visualization of you giving. I'm showing you how to make that look more dominant as well. That's probably the least dominant thing I've ever seen. If somebody did, if I saw a homeless guy doing that, I'd stop his head in. I would attack him. No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't go nowhere near a man.

Actually, you're right. I would think it's way too disgusting. But not dominant. Just disgusting. Like, that guy is... If you saw a man sucking their own dick in the street... Not if they're... I don't even know...

You probably would call somebody. You'd be like 9-1-1. There's a man on this block... ...stuck in his own dick. Why do the bugs always just... Turn off the block. You know, Quentin Tarantino movies say the N-word a lot. There's more...

I don't even know what the context of that was. I don't even remember what Montan asked me. for me even start talking like that. Well, play some more. What's the okay? This says talking about people using the word nigger. Let's hear. You like that?

I like it, yeah. Yeah. That's like, I don't, I mean, is that okay with you? Oh, I like saying cracker ass cracker, so it don't bother me. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, no, I'm not to give you a pound because I don't want you to say the N word, but I do reserve the right to say crack ass. But why can you say that, but I can't. No, you can say whatever you want. Will you get offended if I do? Well, you just got to deal with the consequences of it. Everybody already knows.

knows I say it. You do? You don't say it around black people. I don't say it on camera or around tough looking black people. I'm not tough, but I'm just saying whatever. You got a tough guy out there. Here's the thing about life. You can say whatever you want.

You just got to deal with the consequences of whatever it is you say. But would you be offended by it? Let's say I had no consequences. My offense is super racist. I probably, I see I don't take offense easily, but I would be offended by it because you're using it for content. No, I'm using it like to be derogatory. Oh.

Okay, I can kind of respect. You know, Quentin Tarantino, I can kind of respect that because I've never been to use that word as a term of endearment. Oh, really? I use it the way crackass crackers use. What about, do you usually use the A or the R? The E, the R. Oh, that, yeah.

No, mother. We can pound it on. No, motherfucker. We're on the same page. That ends with an R2, and you said it was vitro. I like it. I can kind of respect that because I'm here, baby. This one right here.

It says, Maton asked Charlemagne about him cheating on his wife. Black men don't cheat. Black boys. Okay, start from the beginning. Let's hear it. You say black men don't cheat on their wives, but you used to cheat on yours all the time. Yo, suck my. Yo, stop with you.

How does that make any sense, my son? What? How dare you bring up something like that? What's your problem? Just asking? Bringing up old shit. No fucking. reason. It's a good question. But yes, I did

used to make mistakes. But you say black men don't cheat on their wives. Yes, because, and I'm... Are you black? I'm going to say something to you that you can't repeat either. Black men don't cheat. Black boys do. Now, I know to you that a lot of black people, all black men are boys. I didn't say that. Yes, but I can tell this you're thinking it.

I'm here, maybe. I don't see the problem. What is the problem? What's the problem here? I thought... You was cooking, bro. I enjoyed I enjoyed Mottombe. What's the problem with this? First of all, the neighborhood talk ain't never even heard of Motton,

number one, right? What did it say? Well, this was cringe. That's the whole point. Yeah. I think, just my opinion, I don't think our community gets cringe humor yet. Is that, I mean, not to be old and out of touch, but I'm assuming he's doing a character or something like?

Yeah. Yeah. Got it. If you've ever watched, like, see, people forget the Colbert report back in the day. Remember the Colbert report when Stephen Colbert was playing like this super conservative. But he would come into the green room and tell the guest what he was going to do and how it would play out and then they were in on it. Does this guy tell you?

No. I had no idea what I was walking into. Got it. Okay. But he's always in this character, though. Like always. Every time you see him, he's this character. Okay.

See, see, my man. Alex that works with, you might know Alex. Y'all might know Alex. Alex is in the podcast world. Which one? Alex, what's the last name? Alex, oh, I'll tell you Alex's last name right now. He works with Donnell a lot.

Alex, um, Alex Audea. Oh, yeah, yeah. He works with us too. Yeah, he works with us. Oh, okay. So yeah, Alex, Alex was like, yo, you should do Maton show. Maton wants you to do his show.

And I mean, you know, I know Alex said nothing. I'm like, if Alex tells me that I should do it. I'm like, all right. Why not? And yeah, I didn't know what the fuck this was. Bro, when you told me that, I was like, why the fuck did you do this show? Hey, I enjoyed it, though. I had a fucking ball.

And why are the dudes posted up like it's a hostage video or some shit? It's just all part of the stick. And I said, you know, it's all, I was fucking with them too. There was one part where Matan did his hand like this. And I'm like, yo, you look like you jerking your guy off. The whole shit is supposed to be cringe is the point. That's Matan's whole I think am I saying his name right?

Matan, Matan. That's his whole shtick. So it's like he's trolling you with cringe-worthy shit. So if you want to go on the show, the only thing you can do is troll and be cringe back.

And if there's one thing I know how to do is troll and be cringe. Right. He was in your back. Like this, that was funny. So I enjoyed, I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it. I had a buzz with somebody said

somebody under the comments said, this is just 2000. As soon as I start reading the comments, Taylor took it down. So when it's over, does he come up to you and say, yo man, that was great or does he just stay in character? I don't know. No, he stays in character. He said, this R&B radar said, this is just 2012, 2017, Charlemagne, the God, nothing to see here.

Yep. Max. I had a ball. Somebody said, I don't care what Charlemagne does. Y'all can never turn me against him. Sorry. Cyrus Mone. and said,

Charlemagne wife needs to start looking at him sideways. You think she hasn't? Yeah. Somebody said, bro, is suss regardless. I miss men building things and fixing cars. This ain't it. Charlemagne, the living, grieving goddess. How did we get here?

Oh, see, shout out to Tim Delegetto. Okay, Tim understands. Tim said, L-O-L, the kid's whole thing is trolling. The only proper response is to also troll back. Yep, right. Cue more music said. What did Q more music? say,

Shaulamette, laugh out loud, Shalaman can fit anywhere and still be the same. Damn, now this is interesting. Cass B. Fadle said, I've actually had the displeasure of seeing a man suck his own dick on Twitter. Taylor, you ain't doing the right research.

What that video? We ain't seen that guy. Why do you want to see that? Yeah, that's crazy. He's seen that motherfucker. I didn't know that shit really existed. I hear about it all the time. but that shit sounds like some shit that only exist in motherfucking movie.

We don't think of cartel and by any means necessary. I like baton show. But do you guys feel like there's a shelf life on these cringe shows? Because at a certain point, I mean, in some ways you were the best case scenario because you came in blind, but at a certain point, everybody knows what the stick is, and then there can't be authentic reactions to it. So I just feel like those shows can only go so far. Yeah, absolutely right.

I told him that. I told him that on the show. How long have they been known for it? I don't know. But I think our episode is like 45 minutes, and I told him that. First I asked him, I said, yo, is this working? Like, if this work? I didn't know anything about the show.

After the fact I went and I looked at his numbers and I'm like, okay, he does very well on YouTube. I don't know what he does in the audio. I don't even know if he comes out on the RSS feed. Maybe he does. But I said to him, I said, yo, is this working for you? And then I told him, you know this has a shelf life. Because once people know that this is what it is walking in, you're probably not going to get guests at all.

But that's the thing. I think most guests, even if they know what it is walking in, they're not able to get to his level of cringe. So he can usually out-cranges the person there almost every other time. You got to his level, which is impressive. But normally he's able to just like, all right, I'm going to just take it up a notch. So that's when like the show gets like, oh, wow, they're going nuts. Because this shit ain't really cringe.

Like, he's, maybe for him and his demographic, bro, I'm 46. I'll be 47 in a few days, June 29th. Yeah, he's like 21. So all his fans are like kids. They're seeing this shit for the first time, be like, yo, this is crazy. I got 46 years of cringe and 46 years of trauma. Hmm. Okay, the shit I've seen, he couldn't even fathom.

You know what I mean? So I can get real dark. And I like dark human anyway. So, like, his shit, the shit is funny to me. Like, I do like what he does. I think it's probably better suited for a character in, like, a TV shows him. You know what I mean? Because to Chris's point, I told him the same thing.

I think that, you know, stuff like that, that does have a shelf life. Remember, like, uh, Or at. Between two Ferns was like that. Yeah, too, yeah. Like, when it started, it was great. But then everybody knew what it was. And it just couldn't keep up the momentum. I think there is a balance though

Because like what about Theo Vaughn? He like sort of kind of plays a character But then he sort of kind of himself Like sometimes I'll just say random shit That makes no sense but it's just funny And people love what he doesn't But I mean Theo's not a character Yeah I didn't take him as a character

I just think Theo's a funny as dude And Theo is able to have thought provoking conversations when he wants to like Theo can sit down and interview a comedian like Drewski but then turn around and talk to Bernie But that's what I'm saying. He does a combination. That's why I think his show has more longevity.

But like some random times would just be like, oh, there's a rat possum pussy and you ever ate one of those or something. Like he'll just say the wildest statement that just doesn't make sense. And it just somebody says it with straight face and he's just like, oh, yeah, this is some regular shit that goes out of my leg. I mean, you're right. But listen, it's somebody in West Virginia who's eating rat possum pussy. That she might be the most tastyest part of the possum for all we fucking know.

you can always take it there. I mean, it's true. I've been to West Virginia. I've eaten Beershilder. I have squirrel dumplings. You know what I mean? Like I'm eating gator. Like I'm from the South, so I get that.

Like rat possum pussy might be really tasty, Alex. I'll never know. You wouldn't know. You might have already had it on a stick. Grilled up. Tariyakied the fuck up. You don't know. You have no idea if you've had it or not.

We don't have possums in China, Tim. You have no idea. there's possums in New York Great Yes you do We do I've never seen a possum Yes there is

Oh wow Him shit is scary Possums are some of the scariest shit Possums Possums are one of those things You'd be like What what purpose did God have for you Well I can tell you what the purpose is

They're encouraging people To start trying to Kind of keep them in their backyards Because there's a big article In The Times two days ago because of the last two mild winters, this is the worst summer on record for limes disease and ticks. The ticks all throughout New York State and the northeast are out of control, and they're realizing that possums are really good at attracting ticks and then eating them.

So if you can keep possums in your yard, you're lessening your chance of getting Lyme disease. Yo, get me to tick. I'm not going to have a fucking possum in the backyard. Trust me. That's great. You want multiple possums in the backyard. If they're going to get rid of the ticks. I mean, to Chris's point, you would rather, you'd rather have a possum getting rid of the ticks than have lime disease.

And Chris, no. Yeah, but then you can't go outside in your backyard because it's a possum there. No, they, like, hiss and attack you in? Yeah, no, I did, I did research on that, too. So the whole thing is they pretend to have rabies to scare people off, but they can't actually get rabies. So the whole hissing is just a defense mechanism. They don't have racism. They don't have racism. They don't attack.

Oh. So, I mean, they got me. Bro, that shit is scary, bro. You ain't, you ain't felt fear until you see the possum stand up on, like, his hind legs and, like, do that face at you where it's like, ah, and hissing. No, I seed it one time. I was in, like, the polka nose area, some shit like that. And, like, it was one going through the trash, and then we got close and it just started doing all that shit. I'm like, what the fuck is this?

I'd never ran so fast in my life. Protect the possums. That shit happened to me one morning, bro. I woke up one fucking morning, and I was taking the trash. out and it was still dark. And I opened that trash can and that shit jumped out. I don't know if it was a possum or a raccoon, but boy, that shit scared the fuck out of me. Hey, Chris, you said something about Mayor Adams.

You know, everybody kept sending me this. And they was like, yo, Chris, Chris has been redeemed. Oh. We might owe Chris an apology. Mayor Adams takes action to make City Streets safer, announced the citywide speed limit for e-bikes and e-skuders. Press the city council for action on stalled legislation to protect delivery workers. Hey, a broken clock is right twice a day.

He got something right. But even within getting that right, he also got it wrong because the other part of that bill that they're not talking about is he's trying to allow increase for car speed limits while lowering it for, you know, cycles and delivery scooters and what have you. You don't need to increase the speed in New York City. Slow down. Everybody slow down, including these guys. People are getting killed out there every day. You know my feelings on it. It's a real problem. I, you know, I disagree with him on most things, but a salute to Mayor Adams for recognizing the very serious situation we're facing here in New York City. You thought I wanted to ask you, Chris? Yes. Alex, too. Have there ever been a situation in New York where the incumbent mayor didn't even stand a shot for re-election? Like, they're not even talking.

I think he's going to win. I think he's going to win. Yeah, Charlotte, right now, only the primary, the Democratic primary is going on. So that's why Mayor Adams isn't even in the conversation because he's an independent right now. Well, he's running as an independent. Yeah, so he's not in the conversation because only the primaries for the Democrats are going on. So this is not even the election for the mayor. It's just the election for the primary.

I haven't seen him polling anywhere for nothing. Because he's not, he doesn't need to be in the polls yet. Once they choose the person who wins the Democratic primary, then they'll start talking about Adams. Because then it's going to be the one Democrat, the one independent, and the one Republican running against each other. So you think Mayor Adams can beat Cuomo? Here's a scenario. Cuomo might not. Suppose Zoran wins the Democratic primary.

I'm supporting Brad Lander. He and Zoran have co-endorsed each other. It'll probably, you know, I think Zoran has a real shot of beating Cuomo. So now you have Zoran versus, if I'm saying his name correctly, Eric Adams essentially in the main election, I see a scenario where Eric Adams, unfortunately, could win that. I think Zoran wins.

Can he get the Jewish vote in New York City, which is very simply? That's the only vote he doesn't get, but he gets everybody else. And right now he's cooking on social media and TikTok. He's going to bring the young people and get more young people to vote more than any other New York election. What about working class African American? big electorate in New York City. You don't think they're going to go Adams? I think it's going to be 50-50.

Because Adams is still a cool guy to a lot of people, but then some people are like, ah, he did some fuck shit, so we're not going to vote for. I had Zorn on Breakfast Club, and, I mean, you know, it was an interesting conversation. I saw people,

somebody, somebody did a whole YouTube video saying how it was one of the best political interviews they've ever heard. But, you know, to me, I'm kind of with Chris. I'm like, can you win New York City without the support of Jewish people? He'll get some, I think he'll get the young, progressive Jewish vote, but that's not the majority of the Jewish base.

You know, I think Eric Adams is going to have no problem, kind of, especially in the climate with Israel, really, like, leaning into a pro-Israeli stance. And Zorhan, he's Palestinian, right? Like that's his background. He is? I thought he was Indian. No, I don't think I'll. Before we play ourselves, let's look us up.

He is, I went to Bowdoin College. You know, Andrew Cuomo has beaten Zoran by 11th. Yeah, he's of Indian. Somebody told me he's Indian. All right, so there's missed information going on because I've had multiple people tell me he's Palestinian. I think what the actual thing is, is he's probably supported the call.

but already people are, you see, that's, that's kind of what he's up against. Yeah, like he has said free Palestine, so. Right. That's crazy that people were telling him he was Palestinian. Yeah, but he's not, he's Indian, but he was actually born in Uganda. Well, there's a big, there's a big Indian population or was in Uganda. A lot got driven out. Oh, wow.

I didn't know. In the 70s and 80s, but traditionally there's been a big population there. Your boy, Brad, got arrested by ice. Yeah, he put his money where his mouth is. I kind of wish he'd done it early. earlier because I think he could have used some of that attention because I think people see him as lacking excitement or charisma, you know, compared to Zoran. But, you know, I've seen Brad around Brooklyn for 25 plus years. I think he's like a guy who's really about policy, who really

gets stuff done, who works with all sorts of different communities. He has a ton of experience. I think he'd be a fantastic mayor. But, you know, at least they're working together. to try to, you know, they're, they're, like, I, I, I early voted already. And when I went to vote, uh, somebody from Zoran's campaign was out there and I, you know, they were like, trying to give me the leaflet. I was like, look, I'm just like, you know, I'm a Brad Landers guy. I'm going to vote for your guy second. And the guy said, that's fine. Just don't vote for Cuomo at all. Like that's their thing. That's their message to me. I've been seeing that too. They've been saying, don't rank Cuomo or Adams. What the fuck does that

mean? Well, you can't rank. Adams now in the Democratic primary, but what they're saying is in the general election during the rank voting, let's say this, like let's say a certain percentage amount of people put Zoran or whoever the Democratic candidate wins coming out of the primary, even if a lot of people put, let's say, Adam's second or third, all those second or third place votes, if there are enough of them can catapult him to the winner in a way. I don't fully understand it, but that's that's kind of how it works. So what they're saying is if the, if the mission is to block Cuomo, what you really have to do is leave him off the ballot entirely, just so he doesn't

pick up any votes, whether it's second, third, fourth, what have you. Well, right now it says Andrew Cuomo leads the Democratic primary race for New York City with 38% of likely voters, but the gap with second place, Zoran has narrowed from 19 points last month to 11 points now. Well, look, I mean, Cuomo has tremendous name recognition for decades going in New York City and New York State. And like, Zorhan, people don't know him as well as evidenced by the fact that people have been telling me he's Palestinian and I believed it. But like, I think what he has done, if not only for this election, and, you know, I think he's worked a lot with, uh, with Chiosay, a city councilman whose combat son, those guys know how to use social media and really connect with a younger voting block.

And I think no matter what happens in this election, those two in particular, they're just going to be a force because they really know how to connect. I mean, in a way, almost like Trump does. I mean, it's entirely different messages, but they understand the medium in a way that the older politicians, just instinctively they can't do it. I definitely think the internet and the TikTok helps with local elections. I mean, you saw that with Che, with Che. But, yeah, I don't know if it,

I haven't seen it work on, on bigger elections yet, except for Trump. Trump is the only person I've seen it work for. I mean it worked for Obama, too. I don't know. That was like the early states. stages of the internet. Like, Twitter wasn't really Twitter, Twitter back then and like,

what was that, old, oh, seven? I mean, it was Facebook, but he I'd say he was the first if you consider Facebook social media, it was the first social media president. I think I don't know. Right, but they even people

like Zerrin or cheat, like, who know how to use it and understand the language of it, they've never gone to the place Trump goes, which is just tweeting like you're a 17 or 15 year old kid. with no holds barred and just saying anything and everything. Absolutely. They're still have a sense of boundaries.

Like, we haven't seen a Democratic candidate who's just said, fuck it. Like, it's a tweet storm. I don't care what I say. I don't care who I offend. Who takes this the wrong way? It's completely unfiltered. They're using much more, you know, accessible filters, but they still have a filter. And look, I think it's good that a lot of these policies,

politicians still have some filter. I think the lack of filters what have us in such a dangerous place right now because there's so much chaos, there's so much uncertainty, because everything changes every two seconds, you know, like, there's a reason presidents play it close to the vest. There's a reason presidents try to stay on message. There's a reason presidents watch what they say very carefully because their words have real impact. And now we're living in a time where you know, if the U.S. President says something, everybody's supposed to react. And now the message and is changing every hour, every hour and a half, you can't even keep up with it. I get that, but it's like, isn't that if one person is having so much success with that model, don't we need to, don't, doesn't the inside need to?

What success? I think, I think, he got reelected. I think we're having two different conversations. Okay. I think what works when you're campaigning shouldn't be how you govern. Okay, I like that. Like, so if I'm using social media and I'm saying wild shit to, you know, get you riled up to get you to come to the polls, all right, that's one thing.

But when I'm governing, I don't need me or anybody from my administration going dumb shit. Like when Tulsi Gabbard did that video talking about we're on the brink of nuclear war. And, you know, we could be facing nuclear annihilation. And we have these political elites that we got to stop from basically. killing us all. As we stand here today, closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before, political elite and warmongers are carelessly fomenting fear and tensions between nuclear powers. Perhaps it's because they are confident that they will have access to nuclear shelters for themselves and for their families. And I'm like, yo, Tulsi, you're the political elite.

Like, what am I supposed to do with this information? And then a couple days later, Israel goes into Iran. if that's what you were talking about, you should tell us. Or even today, well, at the time we're recording this, you know, Trump posted, well, his spokesperson, Christy Knoll was like, in two weeks, we're going to decide within two weeks whether or not we're going to strike Iran. Why does Iran need to know that? You know what I mean? Or how about if you're going to put something out, why can't it be strike a deal? Why are you giving Iran a heads up that we might go in on y'all? Then the fucking Doomsday plane came in the fucking D.C. today?

Did you see that? I sent you that article, right, Chris? Yeah, yeah, that's bad. I didn't see that. Tell people what the dooms day plane is, Chris. I mean, basically, it's a plane that the U.S. government has to quickly get leading, you know, politicians, the president, the secretary of defense, what have you, out of a crisis situation before the ship.

it hits the fan. So in theory, if the doomsday plane is in the area, that means they think there's going to be a split-second emergency situation where they got to get the heads of government out of there as quickly as possible. Now, look, you don't know. Do they do that in order to bluff the Iranians that they're prepared for a doomsday scenario? Do they think that's going to be a doomsday scenario? I don't know what the truth is. I don't know if they even know, but It's just adding to this sense of kind of, again, chaos and uncertainty. Yeah. And also, Charlotte, to your other point, I do think that they're utilizing social media to

add leverage for negotiation because it's like if you're saying, if one person tweets like, oh, yeah, you know, we're considering to bomb them within two weeks. Now that country's like, holy shit, we might be bombed in two weeks. weeks, let's try to figure out a peace deal that we can make within two. Are less strike first? Yeah, it's going to be either or, and I think they bank on the latter or the previous one. We've had these conversations.

It's so funny, we used to have these conversations on brilliant idiots and jest and just talking about like AI and social media. Remember, before AI, we used to talk about what if somebody put up a fake Twitter page, pretending to be a world leader, and said some shit like, yeah, we're about to go bomb such and such country. And by the time that other country figures out this shit is fake, or do they even wait around

to try to figure out if it's fake? Or do they just say, yo, let's bomb first. Now we are like at that stage where nobody knows what's real and was not real. When Tosie Gabbard posted that video the other day, I had the first go look and see if the video was real.

And I realized it was real because it came from her Twitter page. But what if a video like that goes out that's not real. And it's an AI, Donald Trump, saying how they just launched a nuclear attack against Iran or whoever else. Yeah, we've got to hope that the country is going to check the people from the other country going to wait?

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe you think so, Chris? No, I mean, did you guys see the new V mountain head that just came out? No, I heard about it though. I saw it. With the four tech guys? Yeah. So, I mean, that's essentially the main plot point or one of the main plot points. And the movie, there's a company that's clearly modeled on a Twitter-type social media platform that develops the capability to do such realistic deepfakes that nobody can tell the difference between what's real and what's fake. And I think in this scenario, it's like Algeria or a

North African country, but essentially one group starts making deep fakes of riots and killings and, you know, chasing down people from certain groups. And the other group believes that it's real and they immediately essentially start a civil war and they can't reel it back in. It's too late. And, you know, everyone's freaking out because it's impossible by that point to tell, you know, you could go to her page and check in that scenario and you wouldn't be able to know. And most people won't even go through the diligence that you went through to try to verify the information.

The issue is, are we a year away from that? Are we five months away from that? Are we five years? Like it's coming and we don't, we're not set up for it. We're not prepared for that scenario. My thing is, why is nobody talking Trump down? Because he's the person that can escalate this. Because one call from America can stop Israel from doing what they're doing.

They've got him wrapped around their finger. The reason no one's talking Trump down is because, and you know, I was very vocal. about this when he got elected is he puts people, he surrounds himself with yes men, people and women, people who are wildly unqualified, who have no experience, who shouldn't be in the positions that they're in,

and they're the last people in the world who are gonna challenge him or talk him down. And that's who he's surrounded with right now. You think Cash Patel's gonna tell him to chill out? You think Heggsworth or whatever his name is gonna tell them, they're just there to say yes. and rubber stamp stuff. So he's isolated.

Yeah, but he did also surround himself by like isolationists. Right, but that's why the Republicans are at war right now because there's a large wing of MAGA that doesn't want to have anything to do with this and feels that they were lied to and duped because he did essentially run on an isolationist campaign. But, you know, if you really start looking at his statements, the thing with Trump is, he says something in support of every position. He says anything in any moment. And I've always said that's part of his genius.

Right. Because literally, you can go search anything and it'll pop up that Donald Trump said it. Right. Somebody could literally be like, Donald Trump said he was anti-war and he was going to stop the wars. You pull it up. You'll hear him say that. Donald Trump said he was full war and he's going to take Israel out. You can pull him up saying that.

Like any, like he's literally covered all bases because he understands how the internet works. He really doesn't understand how the internet works. So if he's talking to a group of isolationists, he's going to tell them he's an isolationist. And then they go away thinking that's his platform. If he's talking to a pro-Israeli group, he's going to tell them he's going to go to the math for Israel. And they come away thinking that he's going to get involved and support Israel whole-handed. So every group thinks he's with them until he isn't. And then they feel betrayed.

but he's moved on to the next one. The one thing I don't understand because Trump, as, um, as like unpredictable as he is, he usually at the very least will, like, go along with what his base is saying.

Like if something's unpopular, then he'll be like, all right, he'll change his tune. And it seems like this is the one thing that everybody's saying it's unpopular, but he's still like, ah, you know what,

I still might. World War III should be wildly, unpopular. The thought of nuclear war should be wildly unpopular. Like, none of us want to die. No, it is, but that's the thing. It's like, why is he even still considering on attacking, all right? Well, who does he really have to answer to, at the end of the day, is the question.

And I don't know the answer to that question, but that's what you always have to consider with him. I was telling Chris earlier, it's like, yo, man, you know, what will you talk about? Oh, the nuclear war? Like, what the, oh, yeah, these guys act like you can commit a nuclear war and just move on. You can win. You can win. There's, there's, like, you know, people will be like, just finish it with Iran. I'm like, do you understand what that means?

But, oh, Chris, I did read something that said they used the term, oh, it was like, it was like, I'm not even joking, it was like light nuclear weapon. They'll say light, they'll say tactical. There's no such fucking thing. Once one goes, they all go. I mean, I mean, Japan. Because we were the only one who had it. What were they going to do? No one else in the world had it.

There are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of nukes all around the world right now, all positioned at us, at Russia, at Israel, at Saudi Arabia. I sent Char this PDF for a book today, Nuclear War scenario. I think Ann Jacobson is the writer's out in stores now. Just read that. It really shows this. this once one flies how quickly they all fly. Because to the point that Shar said about, you know, a social media deep fake to launch a civil war,

I mean a nuclear war, no country wants to wait and see what happens. If they think the entire survival of the country's at stake, they let them fly. And they don't let one fly. And the other thing you got to remember is the nuclear war, I mean, the nuclear bomb that we dropped on Japan in World War II, those things are fucking slingshots compared to the type of nuclear bombs that are out there now. They're so much more powerful. They're so much more deadly.

They're going to spread so much more radiation. Even the light tactical version is just on a whole different level than what was happening in World War II. It's like a very, very scary scenario. And the fact that people are even talking, like, there's a very very very. of this where we can just like do it and then it's like business is as normal the next day or something. You know, I text you this as sharp. One of those things flies.

My family's in our car going somewhere like within the hour. I am out of here. I'm not sticking around. Imagine the chaos. Exactly. Imagine the traffic. Everybody going to be trying to get down south. Yeah.

Well, that's what I was thinking because I'm in an apartment. I'm like the biggest issue getting out of Metro New York is going to be the roads are clogged. and you're going to run out of gas. It's going to be impossible to get gas. So then I'm like, should I be like storing canisters of gas, but you can't put them in an apartment? So I'm like, should I go like hide canisters of gas in a park near me so that when this all goes down.

Yes. I don't have a gun. I'm like- scenarios, Chris. Let's belfry need scenarios. Israel throws a nuke at Iran. Right. What happens next?

Well, in theory, Iran can't respond. in... Because they don't have no nukes, right? Because they don't have no nukes. But let's say Iran, you know, first there's going to be international outcry. Then what happened, you know, suppose the radiation lands on Russia, which is essentially right next door. Or Iran with more conventional weapons, attacks every single U.S. base in the world.

And then they kill a bunch of U.S. soldiers. And then U.S. goes in. At some point, someone's going to think U.S. is on the war path. And since they've already essentially dropped one nuke or been in cahoots with Israel and dropping a nuke, someone's going to take a preemptive strike to protect themselves. Does that take a week? Does that take a day? They'll take a month?

I don't fucking know. But I'm not sitting in New York waiting to see how it plays out. I can tell you that right now. I was in, I don't know if you guys were, were you in New York today with the thunder and lightning? Yeah. That shit sounded so crazy at one point. I was like, oh, I ran started it. Like, I considered that for a half a second.

I came into my lobby and there was a portable kayak. Someone had ordered a portable kayak that was getting waited. You know, someone was waiting to pick up in the lobby. In my mind, I'm like, oh, shit, people are getting ready to figure out how to get off the island already. Like, that's what I need. I need a fucking portable kayak in my apartment. That's a part of you get, yo, Manhattan's a fucking island. It's an island.

So maybe I got to put my family and my daughter. dog in a portable kayak and, like, you know, get to Staten Island and then from there paddle to Jersey. And, you know, like, I'm thinking about this shit. Let's pray for none of this shit to happen, man. Let's pay some fucking bills. Everybody calm down, please. Church announcements.

Make sure you go check out the life. Andrew Shultz's stand-up special on Netflix. You can go watch that right now. And everybody needs to get ready. Everybody needs to look alive. It is not a drill. June 24th. No holds barred.

A dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power from my niece's Mandy B in Weasie WTF, the co-host of Decisions Decisions with Tempice X will be in bookstores everywhere via Black Privilege Publishing Simon & Schuster, man. I'm going to tell you something. I started reading this book. I'm halfway through it. I actually had to stop reading it just because it. It's a lot.

It's a lot. It's in a good way, though. It's in a good way. You know, because Mandy and Weezy are not idiots in no way, shape, or form. And they really have, you know, just conversations about being sexually liberated in a real intellectual way. And, you know, from the beginning of the book, you immediately know why Weezy is Weezy, why Mandy is Mandy, why, that why there is such thing as divine alignment and two people can come together

to build what they've built because I've never heard of this shit that they be talking about. I'm not even going to lie. Weezy's like I've been horny my whole. Weeys like, yo, as long as I can remember I've been horny my whole life. Yeah.

Like, that's what she's. I don't be getting it. When I'm around her, I don't understand. Have you read the book? No, I just, I'm around her a lot. And so every time I'm just shaking my head, I'm like, all right, I guess that's the time you are right now. But I just don't be understanding a lot.

Bro, she's a really horny person. But it comes from a, and same thing with Mandy, but it comes from things that, well, I don't want to tell you all too much of the book. In the case of Mandy, I think some of it comes from things. In the case of Weezy, we're just like, this who I feel like I've always been, you know. But just the fact that these two people found each other, This is really like some outliers shit.

It's like, you know, two people grew up in the same area, Orlando, Florida, knew each other when they was kids. And that's what I love to. I love learning about their backstories. You know, I knew some of it, but not the way that they went in detail. So this is a great read, man. You know, I know the whole hive is going to show up. They've already shown up. I think they've been number one in a couple of categories on Amazon for a while.

So they fought each other in high school. Did you know that? They had a fight in high school. They ain't fuck with each other. Like a fist fight? Yes, fist fight. Like to this day, they still debate who won. But I think Mandy might have got the best of her during the fight.

But so when they got to New York, they didn't even fuck with one another. But because they had nobody else in New York that they knew, they were just like, all right, we could look the other way and just be cool because we're from the same area. Mandy and we either could say whatever they want. It's crazy, bro. Those two are meant to be together. And we watched a lot of good duos come together and find success. And then, you know, separate and fall out with each other for various reasons.

You know, for whatever reason, Mandy and Weezy have been able to work, work through it and continue to work together. And, you know, I think that this book No Holds Bard is really going to take them to another level. Because I watch them. Like, here's the thing. And I love Mandy and Weasie for a lot of different reasons. But Mandy and Weezy really are the essence. of what podcasting should be. Yes.

To me. Yeah. Because podcasting, you know, nowadays it's the, the radio guy like myself who decides to do a podcast or the celebrity who decided to do a podcast or the athlete who decided to do a podcast. Podcasting, to me, the beauty of it was people who weren't in media deciding that they wanted to launch platforms. That's why I always thought, you know, Chris did so well with loudspeaker, the Kid Furies

and the crystals, you know, people like Tachstone. even Combat Jack. Combat Jack was an entertainment attorney, right? So for him, those people to be able to rest in peace, Comback Jack, Reggie O'Shea, for those guys and girls that come together and create these platforms, you know, and actually end up becoming real voices by telling their own unique stories, right? Like when you talk about those three people I just named, Combat Jack's an entertainment attorney.

So the way he sees the entertainment industry in the business, what's completely different than a lot of people at that time. That's why the conversations like with him and Norrie were so intriguing back then. Because, you know, Norrie thought he got jerk because combat did the deal. Like, but to hear his perspective as an entertainment attorney and the way he used to approach those conversations was something very different and unique back then. Same thing with Kit Fury and Crystal. Like, you know, Kit Fury, you know, being, you know, a gay man from Florida. Crystal being, you know, I don't, was a queer woman from Oklahoma.

I don't know what the exact title is. But for them to come together and have their conversations rooted in their unique experiences is what made podcasting so intriguing and so great back then. And it's the same thing with Wiesie and Mandy, two women who come from corporate backgrounds who decided on their lunch breaks to be talking about sex. And then to find out that they actually have history together way, way, way, way back in the day, all away from Orlando, Florida.

And to see them build what they build, go on tour, have these, you know, fantastic live shows, best live show in the business, if you ask me, and then they now have a book coming out called No Holds Bard, a dual manifesto, a sexual exploration in power, and even just watching them in cans this week

and how they worked the rooms and how they immediately had Evil Longoria fall into their world. Like, it's, like, it's very impressive, man. They are two very special individuals. And I just, I mean, I thank God that, you know, we've been able to, you know, just create the business that we've been able to create because I really, really,

really like seeing Mandy and Weezy thrive. So make sure y'all go out there and get no holes barred this Tuesday, June 24th. If you already pre-ordid, thank you. If you're waiting for the book to come out on Tuesday, thank you. Because they did do their own audio book. So I know if you're a fan of the, you know, Decisions, Decisions Podcasts, formerly horrible decisions. You probably won't want to hear them talk.

But get it. Okay, buy it all. However you want to pick it up, pick it up. Are they doing signings or events in New York? Oh, my God, are they? Hold on. Let me go to their pay. They got so many goddamn signings.

Hold on. Let me see. They got, like, they're going on tour for their book. But they have a, I know they're going to be at Uncle Bobby's on June 25th. That's in Philly, right? Yeah, that's in Philly. I just went to the website. It says, going fast.

With the fire emoji. Let me see. When is the New York book signing? Okay, yes, June 23rd. They'll be doing a talk shop live virtual. June 24th at 7 p.m. Eastern. They will be in Brooklyn, New York at Word. You know what word is that?

Oh, it looks like it is actually in Greenpoint. Word Book School. It says Brooklyn. Yeah. Okay, the address is 126 Franklin Street, Brooklyn, New York. York. Yeah. They'll be at the Word Bookstore in Brooklyn, New York at 7 p.m. Eastern on June 24th, the

day the books comes out. Then there'll be in Uncle Bobby's in Philadelphia on June 25th. Then June 26th, they'll be in D.C. at Solid Sate Books. June 27th, they'll be in New Haven, Connecticut at New Haven Pride Center. And then June 29th, there'll be in Atlanta, Georgia at 44th and third bookseller. July 2nd at 7 p.m. Pacific Time, they'll be at the reparations club in Los Angeles, California. I mean, yo,

they're working. That's why I'm telling you, man, we easy and Mandy special, yo. So they'll be doing book talks and signings all next week. June 24th, no-holds bar, the dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power available everywhere you buy books. Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor.

We didn't do no asking idiots last week when my man, Jank, was here. Salute to Jank from the Young Turks. Great conversation. I saw a lot of people talking about that conversation. Yeah, that was an interesting combo. I like Jank. You know, it was interesting to me when Jank told me

that he hasn't been welcome on any news networks because I don't know why Fox or CNN or MSNBC wouldn't have him on. Okay, let's do some ask you idiots. Jay Cornelius says, what are the top 10 things you have done to become a high achievement? Damn, do I have 10?

Let me think. Okay, keep God first. Stay humble. Keep working. That's three. Definitely, you know, the work on yourself as a person, you know, going to therapy, you know, doing that work to get mentally and emotionally sound. So I can shatter the glass ceilings that ultimately exist. in any space. And what I mean by that is I always tell you all about like in the hip hop media

personality space, you know, you look up and you think sky is the limit, but it's really a glass ceiling, especially if you don't, you know, grow and evolve. And I've seen so many people in our space grow and evolve way too late. I'm seeing way too many people, you know, having these revelations at 50 years old, you know, 60 years old that, you know, they should have pivoted along time ago and you know you know one conversation that you know has been coming up a lot lately is I've been talking about how when I had dinner with Wendy Williams you know uh maybe like a month or two ago one thing she said to me was she feels like she's in the situation that she's in because of how she used to talk about people you know and I think that there's a lot of people

in that space, you know, who would probably tell you the same thing if they were actually being honest with themselves. And so, you know, you can't be afraid to grow. You can't be afraid to evolve in this hip-hop space. So doing the work on yourself. Definitely doing the work on yourself physically as well. But I think the most important thing, and I don't know if I can get to 10,

but the most important thing, I think is just being consistent. Like, that is the number one thing to be in a high achiever, being consistent. Like, you know, people think that consistency is complacency sometimes or they think consistency is boring or they think that

sometimes when you're doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over again that you're stagnant when the reality is being consistent at something is what ultimately to me gets you that championship like the NBA finals is all right now you know it should be no surprise

that the Oklahoma City Thunder are up three to two in this series and we're taping this on Thursday night, so they might close out the night. But my point is, OKC has been consistently good all year long, consistently good in the playoffs, and eventually that consistency ultimately pays off.

You know, so I just think you've got to be consistent, you know, to get to a certain point, and you got to be consistent to win. So to me, that is, you know, the top thing you have to do to become a high achiever. You just got to be consistently, you know, good at whatever it is. you're doing.

Okay, J. Cornelius. Abdon.c.a.a says, what you're doing for your birthday and we got the same birthday, no homo? Now, why is that a no-oh? Why? Like, why? We got to cut this out, man.

Like, what does that mean? We got the same birthday, no-homo. What does that, that mean? We're not blowing out the same candle? Like, what do you, like, that, that don't even, I don't even understand that logic that you just said. Like that did not require a no homo, but I'm doing the same thing, speaking of consistency, I'm doing the same thing for my birthday that I do every year.

Being in my favorite place with my favorite people, that's what I would be doing for my birthday. Okay? Like, God is good, and I thank God that, you know, I'm able to see another year and do what it is. I love to do another year. Keaton Holmes underscore says, oh, this is a good one. This is a good one. Get drafted in the World War III or be forced to take evasion in Ukraine. Chris.

Well, obviously forced to take a vacation in Ukraine because you've got a chance in Ukraine, even if it's a small one. Get drafted in World War III. There aren't going to be armies in World War III, right? Like, there aren't going to be soldiers. They're not going to need anybody. It's over. I think there's a famous quote, which is like,

I think it's attributed to Albert Einstein. Albert Einstein, yeah. He said, I don't know exactly which weapons will be used in World War III, but I can tell you World War IV is going to be fought with sticks and stones. The point being, it's over. Once World War II, we go back to zero. They're no soldiers. They're no armies.

So, yes, I will gladly go to Ukraine if it means ducking World War III. Alex, if you're drafted into World War III, I'll go to vacation in Ukraine. So I'm thinking World War III is all going to be drones and shit like that. So I don't mind just being with the PlayStation controller in my hand on a drone instead of being in Ukraine and then possibly being bombed by Russia. So I might go World War III. Yeah, I thought about that when I was at the airport headed to France because we had to connect in London. And then from London, we flew to do. niece and then we drove from niece to cans and there was a flight to Tel Aviv.

And I'm like... Not anymore. No, this was when it was going on. Oh, I thought they... That's why I didn't understand. I'm like, who would get on a plane to Florida Tel Aviv at a time like this? We've got family. You might prefer to be with your family.

That's what my wife said. People want to get back to their family. I'm like, Charlotte, come on. Charlotte, come on. If South Carolina was at war and you can't get your family out, you don't want to try to be there to, you know,

be with your family, protect your family. I got a whole family here in Jersey. I got my wife and my daughter's here in Jersey. Like, what am I just feel like you're flying into enemy fire? Like, why would you do that? Well, I mean, my cousin lives in Israel. He's very close to where a lot of stuff is happening. he's posting pictures of him barbecuing and drinking coronas.

I started to text him and say, take that down because even if it's good for you, even if you're fine, whether it's Israel or Iran, there are a lot of people who aren't fine. I wouldn't try to treat this lightly. But evidently, he's not, or he's put on a good show. I don't know what the case is, but he's barbecuing corn on the cob and drinking coronas. in his backyard in Israel. So who knows. You think that's people's way of coping?

Like, like, like, they know what some shit going on and you don't know if you, if today could be your last day, your family's last day. So you just kind of like going out the way you want to go out.

Like you ever seen that movie, um, don't look up. Sure. And remember at the end when they was just all having dinner, even though they knew everything was blowing up around them, but they refused to like acknowledge it and accept it and, and go out like that.

So they just was having dinner talking. Remember that shit? Yeah. I mean, and to your point, his wife is posting stuff where she's asking anybody with extra bomb shelters in their home to open it off to people in the community. And, you know, they have one and people are welcome at their home and they're safe for him. So, like, whatever he's projecting, obviously other people are feeling it a little bit more

concretely. So you might be onto something. He's probably trying to put on a, you know, a more upbeat face than the reality is. That's crazy, man. It's 2025. Nobody should be dealing with this shit, yeah. Like, and this is like, like, decades-old issues. Like, I was watching these old videos of, like, Netanyahu talking about Israel was developed.

Like, I don't know if y'all saw The Daily Show the other day with John Stewart, and he was just showing all of the different times. Netanyahu has said, yeah, Iran is weeks away from a nuclear weapon, days away from nuclear weapon. He was like, and this was 20 years. By next spring, at most, by next summer, at current enrichment rates, they will have finished the medium enrichment and move on to the final stage. Iran is months away from having a nuclear bomb. It says Netanyahu in 2012. Seriously, why did we have to bomb Iran now? Iran is so dangerous. Weeks away from having the fissile material for an entire arsenal.

of nuclear bombs. Holy shit, that's why. Iran's only weeks away from having an entire arsenal of nuclear bombs, says Netanyahu. In 2015. No, seriously, I'm not being facetious. I really want to know why we had to bomb Iran now. We're going to show you Iran's secret nuclear files. Here's the warhead.

Here's the bomb. And that's from 2018. It's just like, clearly they don't have the capabilities to be building a nuclear weapon. Do you think this could be an Iraq type situation, Chris, when they were telling us Iraq had weapons of math discretion just to go in? I think the difference, it might be, I think the difference, you know, and I don't personally agree with this, but I think the difference is imagine a scenario where you know Canada or even a region of Canada's does want to destroy you. we would probably be very proactive in trying to get rid of their nuclear arsenal, right? I think people forget about the proximity. For us, this is all around the world.

Like, Iran really can touch Israel. And if, again, this is not my opinion, but if you believe or accept the Israeli argument, their point is we're not looking to start anything with anybody. We're not looking to destroy Iran or Saudi Arabia or Syria or anything. of these Arab countries, we're just looking to exist. And they're trying to threaten our existence. And, you know, I can't 100% argue with that. But is I, you know, I think Obama was a pretty sober guy in his analysis of situations.

He cut a deal, which he felt was going to provide security. So I don't know why that deal got scrapped. because Donald Trump doesn't want Obama to get credit for nothing. Well, I would hope that ego is not that prominent in the scenario that it's going to take us to the place where we are now. It's interesting. As we're recording, Matt Gett's is really going full-on anti-Israel on Twitter and is saying like... Matt Gates? Gates.

Gates. Sorry, Gates. There's only one country in the Middle East that won't allow inspectors to look at their nuclear situation. And it's Israel. Why is Israel allowed to skate any sort of inspections? If we really don't want nuclear war in the Middle East, why, you know? And I'm like, this is why they say politics makes strange bedfellows because I can't stand Matt Gates. I think he's despicable.

I think he's disgusting. But I'm like, maybe he's got a point. You know, so it's like. This is a very unique moment in history. It was the same with Tucker. Like, I'm not the biggest fan of Tucker, but if you saw his discussion that he had with Ted Cruz, it's like, I was cooking.

I was telling, Shaw, that felt staged to me. That didn't even feel real to me. Now, you got to, you go watch the whole thing, you'll be like, oh, wow. Nah, Ted Cruz was flustered, right? I don't think that was staged at all whatsoever. Hey, the problem I have with them shit, though, is, man, it pisses me off to see black people cheering

and Tucker Carlson on. Right. And I'm gonna tell you why. I can't. I can't. I'm gonna tell you why, because we don't give each other that type of grace.

Like if there's somebody that's black that we absolutely posit, like, let's say there's somebody black that the internet doesn't like. Yeah. It don't matter what that person does

or what that person says, the black social media will keep their foot on their neck. Yeah. But when it comes to somebody like Tucker, it's just like watching the white guy dance. The white guy can do a simple, basic-ass motherfucking running man.

And y'all, oh, my God, go white boy, go white boy, go. Right. So you know what I'm saying? White boy can do a simple dump backwards. Right. And people lose their motherfucking mind. Like, it don't take, it really don't take much when a white person does it

to get black social media on their side. You know what I mean? Like, all of a sudden, Tucker Carlson is, I saw somebody post about how is bothering me about Tucker because if he could always do this then why didn't he always do it when he was on Fox News

or it's just like man who gives a fuck like Tucker had a good interview you all ain't got to suck his dick because he pressed Ted Cruz like now all of a sudden y'all want to act like Tucker Carlson

is the Messiah he's your guy now I don't like that shit I don't like it same same scroll up taylor let's see what else we got oh this is a good one ivan popa viz says what can we do about bringing folks together again fuck blue versus right you just got to have real conversations and you can't have conversations wearing either one of those colors you know what i'm saying

and he's talking about politics y'all and our bloods and cribs but you know you just got to have you know people have an actual genuine conversations and you got to be willing to um call out your side. If you're on the blue and the blue does some fuck shit, you should be able to call the blue out without, you know, receiving backlash, you know?

And if you're, if you're red, same thing. If you're red and red does some fuck shit, you should, you should call it out. Like, you just talked about Matt Gates. You know, we talked about, you know, Tucker Carlson. It's just like, those are the things

that it's going to take for us to start having honesty, I think, in politics, period. I think that's what we need in regards to all of these situations because people are literally just putting on their jerseys and blindly

being loyal to sides that they don't need to be loyal to. You can still be loyal to your side and still call it out. Are you really down with somebody? Are you really a person's friend? Do you really have that person's

best interest at heart if you can't call them on their bullshit? So that, to me, that's what it's going to take to bring people together again. So I agree with you, but at the same time, you'll look at a show like Pierce Morgan where you have people from both sides talking. And it's like even when you have people from both sides talking, they're not talking. They're just trying to get slam dunks and, you know, just win the conversation. So it's like, how can you achieve what you just said?

Do it in real life. Because whenever it's on any of these platforms, it's going to be performative. You know, there's very few places that you can go and hear people from other sides actually talk and have conversations where they're really trying to figure out some solutions. Like I say it all the time, John Stewart, The Weekly Show, is one of those places. I still think Bill Maher on Friday nights, you know, is one of those places. I think the Young Turks Network, when it's being done in the right way and there's nobody on there that's trying to perform. that, you know, they do it, they do it the right way, you know, like those, but those are only three that I can name as far as media is concerned. I think everything else has to come from

real life, which is one of the reasons, and this is just a separate side note, you know, there's been a lot of talk about AI because y'all been in cans all weeks, so everybody's talking about AI, AI, AI, and I kept telling people, I think AI is going to force people back to reality. I really do, because I think that if you're a kid, you know, are just some young person who's never experienced the real world when you find out that real world exists you're going to want to see it for real.

Like, we all, for the most part, started off jacking off. But you wanted some real pussy eventually. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like the jacking off and the looking at the Playboy magazines and the porno, that led you, to want the real thing.

Yeah. So I feel like AI is going to do that as well. AI is going to make people want the real thing of whatever it is their experience. And like if you love a beautiful island and let's just say Jamaica, you've never been to Jamaica, but now you can get into this virtual reality experience and, you know, feel it. At some point, you're going to actually want to go feel Jamaica when you realize Jamaica is actually a real place. Yeah.

I get your analogy, but I also think, one, with the Jamaica thing, a lot of people won't be able to afford it. So they're going to go the AI version of Jamaica and make that so dope where you're not going to want to actually go there because I can't really do that. So I have to convince myself that this shit is fire. And then also the other thing is like human interaction sometimes is difficult for some people. So they would prefer to live in the AI world because that is controlled setting where they feel comfortable over going into the public

and having to deal with possible interactions that aren't comfortable for. Well, can I offer a different analogy that I haven't fully formed yet, but I've been thinking about a lot, which is comparing AI to sampling. And what I mean by that is, all right, so when hip hop started,

it was incredible because you were taking the best guitar from a James Brown riff or the best horns or synths from a parliament, Funkadelic, this music that had become seen is old and corny, and you were totally breathing new life into it, and it felt like completely unique and fresh and energetic. And like for the first 15 years or longer of hip-hop, it was like that was what was, what was driving it and it was incredible and it had all this energy to it. But after a while,

they mined all the samples. They mind every guitar group. They mind every piano chord. Like, and at the same time, people stopped creating new music like that. People stop playing guitar. I mean, obviously, there are people here and there who play a guitar or piano, but like, not on the level that used to be so that you wake up 40 years later and the music kind of feels dead. because it doesn't have any of that originality in it, or it doesn't have any of that humanity in it. And I think AI is just doing that on a faster version, where we can make images of this,

but like we're already eating everything that we've created alive and consumed it all. And I think people are going to wake up in like three years and just be like, I want the real thing again. That's right. I want to hear the guitar again. I want to hear a singer's voice again. I want to hear the piano chords again because,

And it took maybe 30 years or 35 years for that to happen in hip hop. But I just think it's artificial. And like if you only eat artificial food, you literally get sick after a while. That's right. And that's what's going to happen. And all you need, I agree with that whole artist. And all you need is one person to tell you like, yo, you know that real shit is way better than this. Right.

The coolest people in five years are going to be off social media. They're going to be off these platforms. You're not going to know about them. but they're going to create in-person movements that eventually then social media will come in and try to take over. But the really hip 15-year-olds in five years aren't even going to have phones. I'm calling it right now. Like, they're going to reject this shit because they're going to realize that.

I just don't see that happen because how would other people find out about it? But that's the whole point. But like if the cool person doesn't have the phone and build something, how would you build something without it? The same way we used to found out about it. Word of mouth slowly over time. Yeah, but we don't talk to one another anymore. We talk through social media.

Well, Alice, I'll say that I think FOMO is going to play a part too because you can be in your virtual reality world. But if I can, it's the same thing now. If I show you what this island look like and you see me on this beach and you see me having a good time, you're going to want to get to that real place. Like, motherfuckers love to go to Turks and Caco's and take pictures by that rusty boat.

You know, they love to be in the Bahamas playing with the pigs. Like, those are real life. Yeah. No, I agree with you. But what Chris just said, if that person doesn't have social media, how can other people find out about the cool thing you're missing out on? Well, I think he's saying people are going to get off. People are good.

Because to be really cool, you can't be on the same thing as everybody else. That's right. Like, I tell my kids, I'm like, I'm raising you in New York City to be slightly, ahead of the curve, and you're reacting to the same fucking videos as people in Arkansas or Canada or anywhere. And there's something beautiful about that, but there's also no need to live in New York City, right? Like, New York used to be 10 years ahead of everything.

Yeah. You'd meet a kid from New York if you weren't from New York and be like, yo, this kid's from another fucking planet. They just know about shit that I don't know about. You know, and that is over. But the instinct to be cool and different than the pack isn't over. That's just a human instinct. And I think at a certain point, people are going to be like,

the only way I can do it is I'm going to, you know, it's just the nature of things. Cutting-edge cool people reject whatever is popular in mainstream. Yeah. And I think the way we reject is the new version of social media ad. So Facebook is corny to be on now. And now Instagram is almost corny to be on. But isn't the inevitable end result of that,

that all the apps are corny? No matter what they come up with? You got to show all. You got to be cooler than the next person. And how can you be cooler unless you show that I'm cooler? I think what's going to make people cooler is embracing reality because everything is going to be so fake online that folks are just going to be like, I can't be on this shit no more, y'all.

Right. Like I think they'll really be, what they're running from is the fake shit. Everything is going to be so fake online that IRL, like, because IRL is already the shit right now. Yeah. Like right now, the reason the screen was and everybody is winning is because they're doing IRL. They're doing real life shit.

I think that is just going to get more. That's going to get more and more popular. Even when you watch people now and they do these videos like, they waking up in the morning, showing their routines and all of this and that. That's not virtual reality. That's not AI. Yeah, but Charlotte, the reason why it's popular is because of all the people

that are staring at their phones watching them do that shit. I don't think it's going to encourage the people to put your phone down and do the same thing. I think it will if everything just gets really, really fake. Every time you pick up your phone, you don't know what's real on any of these sites no more. I think it's going to cause people to run away. You guys are more optimistic than me.

I think the older you get, then you'll reach that. But I think for kids and there's new kids being born every day, you're going to always want to have the feeling of fitting in. And you can't fit in if you're not part of the thing. and part of the thing is always going to be social media or some version of it. I'll take the illish shit Malcolm Gladwell said this week, and I'm paraphrasing,

but Malcolm Gladwell said, anybody who tries to tell you what AI is going to do to society over the next 10 years is full of shit. Yeah. Because you just don't know. Yeah.

Like nobody really knows. Like if anybody that's trying to tell you what it's going to do over the next 10 years, you know, they're just full of shit. There was one interesting scenario I heard, which I completely disagreed with. They said that AI is teaching, well, Mount, Malcolm Glow actually said this. He said, AI is teaching teachers how to teach nine-year-old. Like, like, so if you're a teacher, like, he was talking about ways that AI could actually work, right?

So if you're a teacher and you're, you know, talking to AI, AI can teach you how to properly teach a nine-year-old. year old. And I'm probably fucking his words up a little bit. But the thing that my mind automatically went to, well, that's not going to work. Because what about the natural human element that exists with talking to a nine year old? Because that's what essentially he was saying. I'm probably messing up what he was saying. But he was essentially saying that if you're talking to AI about how to teach a nine year old, AI is cutting out, you know, all of the things you would probably have to deal with, like a nine year old that's not paying the or, you know.

Like the unexpectedness of a child. Yeah, but that's the whole thing. Like, the thing about teaching a nine-year-old is the unexpected human element. Because you can't factor in things like the nine-year-old having a mom who's a crackhead. And that nine-year-old had to stay up all night because the mom never came home. And that nine-year-old might have had to feed the six-year-old, you know, or the three-year-old. And now when that nine-year-old comes to school, they're tired and angry and upset and pissed off. Like, you can't.

You got to factor in all of that stuff. And then if you do factor it in with the AI, then they're going to say, oh, he's being racist. They're being racist because he said the mom was a crackhead. You know what I mean? Well, it's just like, it's just so many unknowns with AI. And I just don't think AI can ever properly teach you how to deal with the real world. But we don't know.

Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. You know, we don't know. Well, let's do a couple more, Taylor. What we got? Oh, this is a good one. Hold on, scroll back, I like this one. Garef.

Dot Enharro says, do you think you can reach the same career accomplishment if you started from scratch today? Probably not. No. And the reason I say probably not is because everybody comes up in the era that they're supposed to come up in. And the way I came up in 1998 as an intern,

you know, was the way I was supposed to come up. I was supposed to come up building a foundation of just radio. Even though we were at the beginning stages of the internet, there was no social media. I mean, you had like, you know, forums, like forums and shit you can go in and comment in, but there wasn't social media. So, no, I was supposed to come up exactly the way I came up. You know, radio, and that evolves in the other things, then social media comes around. and, you know, people start using,

we started using social media to post our content, and that's what got, you know, TV executives looking at us and other radio stations looking at us. I was doing, I did a mixtape, you know, called Charlemagne de Gaille, Concrete Chant, with Never So Deep Records. And it literally was formatted like a radio show. That served as an air check,

which ended up getting me a job in Columbia Sookin Line at the Big DM 101.1.1.3, slew to my guy Mike Love. So no. I don't know if I, I don't think I would reach the same career accomplishment if I started from, from scratch today. Because my path, I don't know what my path would have been. I probably wouldn't even have thought about going into radio in 2020. I might have wanted to start screaming or some shit like that. Yeah, I think my only question to that is what age are you?

Because are you your age right now, then maybe not. But if you were the age when you first started to like, uh, try to go towards this career, I think with your talent, you would have found a way. Like, you're a prolific communicator.

And I think it would have, you just would have saw what was the climate going on right now and you'll find a way to stand out. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's, what you're saying is true. It depends on the way age. Yeah, you're right.

Yeah. I don't know. Once again, I mean, that's a question that makes me think. I should have probably just said I don't fucking know when you ask me Gereff But I don't know Scroll up some more Taylor

Let's do a couple more Oh this is a good one Jacob dash Tolino dash Brian Would you rather fight One Andrew Two Alexes are three Charlemains One Andrew One Andrew

That's easy call Easy call Easy call Easy call One Andrew, easy call. Easy, easy call, especially now. On his last lead eggs, bro. Andrew, Andrew going to be sitting down doing stand-up soon.

Yeah, right now. Shultz is going to be sitting down doing stand-up soon. Them needs have seen better days. Bro, this guy where before he starts to play paddle, he goes outside of the court, and he's doing, you know, like, calf cows. Do you know what calf cows are? No, what a

cat cow? Like, it's a yoga position where you're like cat cow. Cat cows, yeah, yeah. Oh. You're on all fours and you like arch your back and then like flex it up. But he's like stretching, like hardcore stretching just to play paddle. And paddle's

a game created for like older people. It's just the funniest they like, we're waiting to play and he's there outside stretching doing yoga. He should really see what his body age is. You know, you can do that. You can see what.

It's the thing. I can't remember exactly how old your body actually is. Because a lot of people's body is actually in their, their bodies are older than their actual age. It's because of the lack of working out, the lack of exercise. So yeah, Andrew. Inflammation. Count Basie 1738 says,

how the hell does Shalemaine end up on the Natsy? Ton podcast. You meant my on. Oh, I told you y'all earlier. Alex, not Alex, media, another Alex reached out. Addaia. He said Matan wanted me on.

What's his name? Al-Daya. Alex Padilla. Yeah, he said, Matan wanted me on. Al-Daya. Alex Al-Dia. Yeah, he said, he said, Matan didn't want him me on.

It's been funny, though, because I'm getting a lot of these young streamers and younger podcast folks that want me to come on these shows. And you know what's so crazy? I always ask. I'll either ask Alex or I ask Andrew or I ask, you know, Niala, just somebody like, yo, you ever heard of such and such, blah, blah,

before I even, you know, commit to doing some of this stuff. Yeah, but you asked me after you already did it about that guy. Man, I'm going to be, I, y'all, I don't know what I was thinking. By the way, I enjoyed it, but I just don't know what I was thinking. But some reason I thought they were like a political podcast. I don't know why. I don't know why. I just really, I thought, and I thought they're not from America, right?

No. Or actually, I don't know because I really don't know. where he's from, but he puts on like he's not from America. Listen, I enjoyed it. You know what I'm saying? I thoroughly had a good time on it. Yeah, like I said,

it's been a lot of young scrimers and everybody who've been asking me to come on their shows. When are you going to Katt? I don't know. Me and Kai never talked about stuff like that. I would like to see that. Y'all would have fun.

Me and Kahn never talk about stuff like Like me and Kai talk, like, it's just like on some like, like love shit. Like, you know, like, it's never,

it's never like, it's never about any, anything like that. I do, I do, um, I did have a conversation with Kai recently about something though that I would,

I would like for him to, I would like for him to assist me with. And, and, and, and, I don't want to say what it is until later, but I definitely did,

you know, ask his assistance for something recently. And he, he, he, He said he would it. Yeah, we'll see. But it's something he can help me with.

See, I don't have no problem going to the experts in a field, the experts in the industry. Like, I don't give up, like, just because I'm 46 years old, I know nothing about that screaming world. I'm just a fan of it. I observe it and I watch. So if I got questions about it, I'm going to go to the person who I feel like is the top in the space.

and I mean to me from what I you know it's Kyle I mean you know of course you got the I show speeds and people like that but like as far as like the person who's in the screaming world who's like blending um not even blending he's taking culture you know what do you want called black culture hip hop culture whatever it is and and taking it into that world and then like you know he's at the award shows and everything else he's literally taking his platform and bought it to all of these other different worlds seamlessly because it makes sense, right? Like he does the IRS shit. Yeah.

So instead of just him being in his room, he's at these events, interacting with people and still talking to the chat. So I'm always talk to the top person in the space. Like, you know, anytime I do something, that's what I want to get with. If I'm doing books, I want to talk to the top people in the book world. That's how black privilege publishing has become so successful. Same thing with podcast. I was with Kristen loudspeaker them for the last 12, 13 years, you know,

just watching that game. You know, audio scripted. Got somebody like Nicole Shelton who understands that world in a real way. That's why, you know, SBH has had so much success. Same thing with the films I'm about to do. Basil, I want it. You know, Basil has made over a billion dollars in the film world with the John Wick franchise and everything else.

You know, it's so crazy, too. I met Eva Longoria last week for the first time, and I don't know if y'all know the story, but when they did the first John Wick movie, the day before they were supposed to go into production, they were short some money. And so

phone calls started going around, and Eva came in and invested $6 million at the last minute into the John Wick franchise. That was a good investment. She said that was her best R-O-I- ever. Yeah. And

So when I'm talking to her last week and I'm, you know, I'm like, yo, I've heard your name so much. And, you know, of course she knows the story, but I'm just telling her, you know, I've heard this story so many times. And she goes, yeah, I just got such and such check last week from the first John Wick. I'm going to bleak the number. Hey, God. She said, like, like, like, so think about when she first did,

when she first invested in the John Week, John Wick, and to still be getting residuals from that first movie of that size? Come on, man. I don't even know why the fuck I told y'all that just now, but that just came to my mind and I was telling the story. Oh, but yes, I always want to talk to the person in the field

that's been at the top of the game in their field. So if I got questions about screaming, of course I'm going to Kai. So hopefully Kai can, you know, make that happen. If not, I still got nothing but respect for Kyle. Man, there's so many things. Like, even being in King, man, there's so many things that like, you know, people have asked me to do.

And the first thing that comes in my mind is, is certain screamers. Like, I got something for Reggie right now. Like, literally, right, like, right now, salute to Little Reggie. Just because I think he's a, he's a funny-ass dude. But then when somebody came to me with something this week in regards to, like, advertising for a certain brand, I immediately thought about him. So, yeah, man, salute to all of those guys. Let me do one more, tell again.

one more scroll up what's the wildest thing your child has done in public and you can't do shit about it what's the wildest thing i really only got one wild child all of all of all of the kids are pretty pretty cool i mean don't give me wrong i got a six-year-old and a three-year-old so they still got time to be crazy but they're not their personalities aren't like that my second my second daughter that's about to be 10, she's, she's wild. And she had a fear of elevators a few years ago. She still got a slight fear of elevators. But it was one of those fears you don't know she got a fear of until you experienced it.

Wow. And so she was at the airport and we're walking to get on the elevator. And she just starts yelling and screaming and like acting like she's running away. like, no, no, no. And all I could think was, these motherfuckers is going to think I'm a goddamn human tropics. Yeah. That's all the fuck I can think about.

And you're trying to explain that was six-year-old. You know what I mean? So I don't want to look like I'm agitated and get your little ass over here, right? You know what I mean? Because people will be looking like, what's going on over here.

So I'm trying to explain to her, you acting like that, going to have people thinking that we try, He's trafficking you. He's like, what's trafficking? I'm like, oh, my God. You know what I mean? Like, like, but you, you don't even want to say that word out loud at an airport. That should feel like you're saying bomb or some shit like that. So what I really wanted to do in that moment was snatch her little ass up and grab her and you pull her on the elevator with us. But then that would have looked even crazy. So yes, that's the wildest thing my child didn't in public and I couldn't do shit about it except trying to fucking, you know, talk her down. I think I did eventually get through to her by saying,

you're going to get us all shot. Great. Yeah, exactly. For some reason, that, that, that resonated with her for some reason. Like when I said, I'm like, you won't get us more. What did you say, Chris? Just scare her more. For whatever reason, that got her on the elevator.

Okay. She didn't want to see all of us get shot and killed. That's all we got for the week, man. What are we doing next week? Is she'll back next week? No. All right, we can do a guest host next week. I got somebody that's going to be in town.

They asked me today. I didn't want to do it without Andrew, but he's a fellow brilliant idiot. He's from the brilliant idiots community. Okay. I tell you all that. So as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart,

you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple assholes who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening.

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