The Brilliant Idiots - Defund The Tone Police

Episode Date: June 18, 2020

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Now let's start this show. Showtsey. What's up, baby? What did you see this week that you found positively brilliant? Or what did you see this week that you thought? What a fucking idiot. Yo, you know what I think is positively brilliant? Talk to me.

You might disagree with me on this. Talk to me. Um, canceling the NBA season. Why? I think it's a really rare time in history where there's absolutely no distractions. So we are all solely focused on this one event, this one protest, this one fight for rights. And adding anything else into the mix, especially something we care so much about, like sports, and specifically a sport we care so much about, I think you will create a little bit of a distraction and you'll create a reason for why people maybe should

stay home and watch the game instead of going out to a march or like seeing what's going on to March, et cetera. It just creates another news flow. And yeah, I think that if I was the NBA players, I would say the only way we're starting a season is if these demands are met, because I think you have a specific time in history where billionaires get to move in and get to change in once you fuck with their money. And there is a billionaire that owns every single NBA team. And that means you have, what is it, 32 or something like that, NBA team. There's 32 billionaires out there that will move politicians in whatever way they want to get that season started.

So do not start the season without getting something out of it, 35 NBA teams. So get something out of it. You got leverage. You got these billionaires begging you to play basketball. You better get something out of that more than just donating money. That's not a bad take. Smart, very well thought out. I didn't even look at it from that angle.

My take on the situation is I don't think the NBA would be a distraction at all. In fact, I think that the NBA would help highlight what's going on out there in the streets even more. And we talk about history and we say, you know, this is a particular moment in history and we got a chance to make real change. the civil rights movement was a particular moment in history. And guess what they were doing during the civil rights movement? Playing motherfucking sports. Like we act like athlete activism hasn't been a thing forever. We act like protest through sports hasn't been a thing forever.

Some of the greatest statements in social justice history have happened via sports, whether it was John Carlos and Tommy Smith during the Olympics when they stood up and put the black fist up, whether it was, you know, what Jim Brown was doing, using his leverage as a celebrity to push, change, whether it was Muhammad Ali, whether it was Karim Abdul-Jabbar, like we all remember that historic picture where it was Jim Brown and Ali and Kareem and all of them together. I forgot what they were doing in that picture, but it was

something sending around social justice, if I'm not mistaken. Are you talking about the diner pick? No, it wasn't a diner pick. I forgot. You know, because there's the diner pick that's Sam Cook, Muhammad Ali, Malcolm Acts. This is all athletes. Okay.

It's all athletes. It's Kareem. It's- It's- It's Kareem, Bill Russell, Jim Brown. I think they're all in support of Ali, if I'm not mistaken. I don't remember. I don't remember.

But, and of course the most recent, most recent protest through sports, Colin Kaepernick. Like, so it's like, why, and we think about even with the Eric Garner situation, not Eric Garner, George Floyd situation, what was one of the main memes that was going around?

LeBron James and the I Can't Breathe t-shirt that was based off Eric Garner. So I'm like, to think that we can't, do both in a country is wild to me. Like, like, it's wild. So I, uh, I think that's a really good point. And I think that, I think it's hard to find any hole in the point. The question, uh, I guess I would have is, does doing both pull any attention away? And you could be right. Maybe it doesn't pull any attention away at all. Like, we all have jobs and watch sports and watching sports doesn't really take away from the job. And I think we forget that the NBA is a job.

No, 100%. That's those players' jobs. Like, they got to get back to work. I guess what I would say is this is like, all right, if you want to get back to work, you want to do it, good, do it. But you have the owners by the balls right now. So you might as well get something out of it. If you're holding something by the balls, get something out of it. To do what?

You have to ask for a specific goal. I would ask for a specific thing that you want. It doesn't even have to be the thing that's going to cure everything. It could just be a specific thing that you want lobbied. Right? And then make sure that that comes through. I mean, that's what I would do is you got a little opportunity right here. You know you have it.

When you go play, it's not like you're getting paid more money to play. Yeah, they're going to give $500 million or something like that to social justice reform. But like, people have been throwing money at the problem that is civil rights for years. Like every year, there's more millions of dollars thrown and nothing really seems to change. So maybe it's not money. Give it up, baby. I'll take it because at the end of the day, you know, you can't change what's in a person's heart.

So the only way to really dismantle systemic racism is by acquiring power and by creating your own systems and your own institutions and you need money to do that. So then that $500 million maybe shouldn't go to these charities. They should.

Well, that's the other thing that's tricky. And I got to look into it more. But like someone told me like the, and please correct me because I only just read a little bit about it. But like someone told me, Minnesota Freedom Fund only spent $200,000. bailing people out of the 34 million that they raised? Do you see that?

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But, I mean, I'm not mad at that only because if they have a fund, then that means that they have employees. You know what I mean? Now they're able to hire more employees. That means that they're able to do more events. That means that they're able to do more things in their community.

Like, the more money these grassroots organizations have, the more they can do in our community. So I'm not mad at it. I just don't know what they want an NBA owner to do. Like, the only thing an NBA owner could do is, what, lobby for Move politicians. Yeah, whoever you feel is going to put those policies in place,

that legislation in place that's going to change things. Force them to place legislation and then it is true. It does say that, right? So force them to change the legislation and then force them to, you have to have a specific goal. I mean, one of the tricky things about movements

that don't have one specific leader is that the goals seem to be lost on the movement, like different parts of the movement, want different things. and then once people see the movement gaining steam, other people that are part of the movement start going, all right, well, if y'all get in this, I want this. So, like, even this week, I think we saw, like,

the Black Trans Lives Matter too pop up. And while, yes, they do matter, and I think Black Trans Lives fits under Black Lives, right? But the fact that you're protesting police brutality and Black trans people, as far as I'm concerned, are not being murdered by police. They're just being murdered by civilians. So that issue seems to distract.

I think it was one that got killed by police. I mean, I don't know. I know it definitely was at least one that got killed by police officers. Right. I'm not saying that that issue isn't valid, and I'm saying that isn't very important. But it does seem to me that, like,

if clear goals and clear, like, accomplishments aren't stated, then it's very easy for, people to ask for a bunch of different things and when everybody's asking for their own thing, nothing's going to get done. Does that make sense? I get it.

I get it. I mean, I think everybody just wants, everybody just wants the police to stop killing unarmed black and brown people. That we can agree on. But what I also think everybody wants, and I get it, is they want their stories to have as much light as the next story.

Like, it's very hard to walk into a store and you got a product and you see your product not getting no shelves, baby. Hey, bro. Like, that's just a thing. Like, you want more, you want shelf space. So if George Floyd is killed, you want George Floyd, you want Mr. Brooks from Atlanta, you want him to get as much credit.

You want the black trans lives that are getting murdered to get as much attention. Like, you want it all to get equal attention. But I don't think that's a people thing. That's more of a media thing. The media got, when they got shelf space, when it's one story that's ticking and moving, that's what they go with. That's just the way it is. But that's what social media is for, right?

Social media is so you can uplift and empower those other voices. Like even with Brianna Taylor, I think we spoke about this last week. It's not that people don't care about Brianna Taylor story. The Brianna Taylor story didn't have a video with it. Bro, we were saying last week how people should animate it. And this dude made this great image by image version of what happened. You saw that? And it made it super digestive.

and like very easy to understand. I don't want that tune trauma. Say again? I don't want that cartoon trauma. Say, oh, why not? No. It was just pictures, though. Is what?

It was just pictures. Oh. But they just drew it out. Yeah, it's not Disney or anything. It's just like the slideshow of what happened, but it makes it very digestible. So instead of just saying this person's name and then her story gets into, like,

falls into the fold of all the black people who got killed by the police, you give a specific storyline. and you're like, oh, shit, this is, this is crazy what happened here. There's no justice at all for this. There's not, you can't dispute this at all. I get it. I get it.

You know, I get it. But, you know, to the NBA's point, I just, I just don't see, I don't see how them playing would distract anything. I really don't. Taylor's passionate about this, bro. Because, like, this. All Taylor does is let Twitter think for her. She know, it's, there's no thought to her own in your head.

No, Charlamine. Tell me why. the day, I just, I told you before. Them putting on shirts saying don't breathe or kneeling and then going back to the game is not solving the issue. It's, I can't breathe, not don't breathe. I can't. I can't. Teller.

You being on this podcast right now isn't solving the issue. Me being on this podcast isn't solving the issue. Andrew being on this podcast isn't solving the issue. Why are you comparing the basketball to what we're doing as like, that's two different types of work? Why is it? We get like 300,000 listens a week. Are we distracting 300,000 people from being from? But we're talking about what's going on, though.

The NBA, they're not talking about what's going on. It's two different things. That's a lie. They can easily protest through sports. They can wear the t-shirts. Yeah, but then they go back to playing, though. They can talk about it, and they can talk about it in their post-game. And I'm going to tell you why this is such a half-ass argument.

These are the same people saying they want Colin Kaepernick to be back in the league. I was watching first take the day, and they was like Colin is getting a workout with the charges. So you mean to tell me that one of the biggest symbols of social justice, Justice, Colin Kaepernick, it's not a distraction for him to be playing again? No, it is. I'm not arguing that, though. It's a great argument. You got to give it up to him.

No, you're right. No, I'm not saying that. So you don't want Cap to get a job? I didn't say that either. What do you say? I'm just saying what Shor's saying, though. You have to demand some type of power. That's what I'm saying.

You just wearing them just wearing a shirt's not demanding really a power. You're just saying how y'all feel about it. Yeah, but why can't they do both, though? We act like LeBron. First of all, LeBron James has always done both. So why can't LeBron actually play and still in the afternoon or the nighttime or daytime

or whatever time he got to be using his organizations to push change? No, he can. He can do that too. But I just think that he has the most power where he could like not play until he wants something really happy. Like I just feel like he has more of a power

than just giving. Maybe there's an argument here, Taylor, where it's like, you know how like in the NFL a player will, like, like sit out his contract until his contract demands are met. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's what I mean. That's what I'm saying.

It has to be a goal. Maybe there's a goal there. But I also understand Charlotte's point, which is they also have a platform and maybe they can use that platform to educate more people. Now, some people might go, hey, we're educated, bro. Like, this is all we've been focusing on for the last few months. It's not like anybody's going to learn that George Floyd was killed when they start watching a Lakers game.

Yeah. Like, we're aware of it. I guess what I would say is like if you do play, there has to be some sort of benefit for the cause and it can't be, well, we're making money and then our community is going to get that money. Because let's be honest, hell, most NBA players, black NBA players,

most do not live in black neighborhoods. But they invest in black neighborhoods. Sure, sure, they invest in it, but they're not. They're investing, but they're also buying homes in tons of white neighborhoods around the world. And they're doing it. And they're allowed to do that because they want to make money and they want to increase the amount of revenue they have and change their families life. And that's totally respectable.

But what often happens is the money gets removed from the neighbor just like Indians do it, just like Asians do it. Just like anybody who gets wealthy. Yeah, but you got guys like LeBron James and Jalen Rose building schools. Right, 100%. Chiquel O'Neill got a 26-story apartment complex in Newark. Like, I know some guys who just bought a big. like 100 plus unit building in the hood of Chicago. Like, you know, Luau-Dang, Sloot to my dude, David Gross and all those guys.

But it's just like, that's the type of things that are, that they do with their money. So I get what you're saying. They're not living in the neighborhood, but they do invest in the community in a real, real, real way. And here's the other thing, too. All right, NBA players don't play. So now, are they going to be full-time activists? Because essentially, that's what I'm thinking.

When I hear Kyrie Irving say, look, we're not going to play. Does that mean, Kyrie, you're going to be at every protest? does that mean that you're going to be, you know, like, what are you going to do? I would, like, Dwight Howard, are you going to be a full-time activist now? Like, oh, where are you going? Oh, your food's ready. Yeah, I think, I think that Kyrie, it's very hard to trust his intentions because throughout his career, his moves have always been very self-serving.

You know, like, I, I, it's hard for me to believe that if Kyrie had the chance to win a championship, he would say, no, we shouldn't. come back and play. Yeah. And he knows he has no chances here. So he's like, well, fuck it. We might as well sit out and help this cause is important. But like everything Kyrie's done in his career has been for Kyrie and nobody else.

I was thinking about that. The next might actually have a chance, though. But not because KD. not coming back. Oh, Katie, not coming back? No, he said he's not playing this season. And Kyrie can, you know, barely play, you know, 20 straight games anyway. I think LeBron is like, yo, I think we got this this year.

Let's go for it. Like, what the fuck are we waiting for? I think they just want to get back to work like the rest. of us. I want to get in the studio. We've been working. I know, but I want to be, I want to be in the breakfast club studio. I want to be with you doing the podcast. I'm not, I want to get, I want to get back to work. I'm not going to lie. I want to get back to doing what I love to do, even though I still do it every day. So I can imagine them, they're not doing it at all. Like, I just don't understand, I really don't understand the distraction logic as if athletes have never, you know, protested

through sports before. Like, they've, they've used those platforms to get that messaging out. Like that that logic of it makes zero sense to be. It's a distraction. How? You know what it is, Charlotte? Someone needs to just go and it's a really tough thing to do. But someone just needs to go, yo, this is what we want. And you're going to piss people off when you do it.

But someone just at a certain point in time needs to go, this is what we want. This is the goal. And I think they're doing that. They're going to be. Tell me what it is. What is the exact goal? I think the goal is trying to get some police reform. pushed and passed that actually holds police officers accountable,

not just accountable from a criminal standpoint, but you know that disqualifying, that qualified immunity thing holds them responsible from what you was talking about last week with the civil standpoint. So now you as a police officer are held personally responsible, financially for some shit. I think you need both, right? Because I think a person will, if they know they're not going to lose no money,

they'll risk a trial. and this police-loving society. You know what I'm saying? They'll risk that. But you've got to have both. It's either pinching or prison. Pick your poison. You know what I'm saying?

So maybe that's it. Maybe it's the qualified, it's called qualified immunity? Qualified immunity. But the Democrats have that in their justice and policing act. They wanted disqualified. They wanted disqualified, they wanted disqualified, qualified immunity.

That's in the, that's in the legislation they're trying to get past. But then let's it. Boom. That's a perfect thing. That's the number one on the list. We want to get rid of what is it called qualified immunity because that makes it possible for, you know, police to be prosecuted for their crimes.

Because the reality of the matter is, motherfuckers are not going to stop making mistakes on a job. Not even mistakes. They're not going blatantly stop fucking people up. This past couple weeks showed that. This is like getting caught. You ever cheated on your girl? And like, so you try to be good for that, like a month?

No. I know. You're right. We don't, black men don't cheat. Let's talk about... Andrew Schultz has never been a cheater. But I'm just saying... Because I always been black.

For those who have cheated, you know, when you get caught and you got that period where you're just trying to be extra good? Yes. That's when you don't cheat. You got to be a real dirt dig-lac ass motherfucker to still be doing shit during that probationary period. It's unbelievable, bro. It's unbelievable that there are black people still getting killed this week.

You think this week the police will at least tell each other like, yo, just let them go. Like black people get to not get tickets this week. Just let them go this week. It don't matter. At least try. Brough. Like, Jesus Christ. Like, why?

I'm looking at what happened to dude in Atlanta, Mr. Brooks. I can't remember his first name. Rayshard Brooks. Rayshard Brooks. And I'm like, bro, just let him win the foot race. Bye. And God damn. Let's let him win the fucking.

If you can't chase him. him down, let him win the foot race. He told you he lives right up the street. His car is right there. All you got to do is run the license plate number. Get his address. You go pick him up later. You got to shoot him in the fucking back for what?

Yeah, dog. It's really, it's weird, bro. You really think they'd be on best behavior? Nope. You think this would be the week, bro. It's like, you know, you get a speeding ticket, and then after that you drive 65 or you drive whatever the speed is? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, you're like, fuck. Or especially if you get it like, no, they are just right back to speeding, bro. If you, you fucking overdose and you're in the hospital. I'm never doing heroin again. I'm never doing heroin again. As soon as you get out, bang. You know what that tells you? You got a fucking addiction.

These motherfuckers is addicted to that power that comes up being a cop. And if you, if you disrespect that power, they will lay you to fuck out. That's really what it is. They do not like the fact that you had the audacity to challenge them. Whether it's running away, whether it's running away, whether you're, It's saying suck my dick, whether it's not complying when they ask you to do stuff, I really think it's just an abuse of power. Can you tell a cop to suck your dick? Taylor, pull up the video from them guys in Harlem.

Taylor, pull up the video from that dude. It was so disrespectful. It was so disrespectful. Keep saying, I know he's going. Suck my dick is such a trigger for me. That shit was so crazy. I like, yo, he was whiling. What do you say?

He just told him to suck. Pull it up, Taylor. Al can pull it up and we can actually hear it. Oh, no, it doesn't have the... Oh, because I got the computer. I got the computer. It was the white people, you're talking about right? No, they couldn't have been white.

All I heard was the audio, because Aegeley was playing the audio on the radio. It was no way they was white. That was straight, Cameron, dip set era, like, mirror. Now, what is the law? Like, can you tell a police officer to suck on your dick? I'm sure you can. You can? That's legal?

I want to know what I'm allowed to say. Can you say, like, have a good day, suck my dick? I'm sure you can I've seen too many people curse out police officers but it not Can you say this? Can you be like officer

Do you know if I could park here suck my dick? I'm trying to see I'm trying to see if I could throw it in to just regular police interactions right there Oh this street is closed Do you know how I can get to

Broom Street? Suck my dick Dick It was bad You got it, Taylor? I'm sorry son, you cannot tell me at my age 36 that I could have been telling police officers

suck my dick legally. You're a white man and you've never cursed out a cop? Bro, no. Really? It's like cursing out your cousin. Why would I curse them out, dude? Why don't I curse them out for? They just want to keep me safe at any point in time.

Oh, my God. Hold on. What else we got? Suck my dick. So you can really say anything to a cop. You got it? Is this audio? As long as you're not threatening this, let me see.

Is this it? Let me hear you hear me. Yeah. This one? No. This one? Tell it, tell, tell, tell, tell. This one is it.

I don't know. The one where they say, suck my dick. So here's the thing. This is important. This is important distinction, Charlotte. So Alex just said you cannot threaten them. Okay. So you can't say,

suck my dick or else, but you can say you may suck my dick. You can allow that. You can allow it like somebody wants like a bite of, you know, your pie. Is that it? You got it? They did it. It was a protest and they were like,

suck my dick. No, no, no, that's not. This clearly had to be on World Star. Go look on World Star. Because remember, Angela, you played it the other day on Breakfast Club. I don't remember exactly what it was, but The moral of the story is, yo, cops don't give a flying fuck. Can you ask a cop, can you say to a cop like, yo, eat my, eat my pussy? Huh? Exactly.

I told a cop shut the fuck up. Because you don't got a pussy, so they technically can't do the thing that you're asking them to do. Seriously, why is it so disrespectful to tell somebody to suck your dick? Suck your dick is so disrespectful that people with no dick say it. Yo, you know how, no. You know how, you know how. You know how. This is how disrespectful suck my dick is, right?

If your girl is about to suck your dick and you go, yo, suck my dick, she's like, man, get the fuck out of here. What's the fuck out of your dick? Literally, she's right about to suck your dick. And you go, yo, suck my dick. Who the fuck you talking to? Who the fuck you talking to tell me to suck your dick? I've never understood. I've never understood why somebody giving you pleasure in something that is pleasant.

pleasure or bowl would be disrespectful. Yeah, it's just an odd thing. Especially if there's something they want to do. They're about to do it. Give me, because it's going to get in the thing. That's it? Let me see. I'm good.

You're fucking my goodness. Bro. Yo, bro. You know. Oh, that's him. You, fuck. Yeah. Yo, if you had that badger about nothing wrong about

fake. Stuff my dick. You pussy. You pussy. You pussy. You pussy. Cripping over there. Crip.

You know that. You know that. You know that. You know that. You know that. You know that. You know me, nigga. You're ciffing.

You're ciffing. You're ciffing. Ciffin. Cipin. You fuck him out, like I said, suck my dick, that's a-

That ain't even the one. But that's a good one. That's a lot of suck my dicks. That's a good one. That's not even the one I was talking about. The one I was talking about, the one I was searching his car and,

they was searching a car in Harlem. Oh, no. That one's a little different. But I will say this. Suck my dick. has diminishing power. Talk to me. Like, the first suck my dick

really stings. Do you know what I mean? Like, sucks my dick is kind of basic, though. Yeah, it's basic. But think about it the first time someone says it to you, you're like, yo, what the fuck?

At around like the fourth or fifth or sixth time, you're like, pull your fucking pants down. Let me show you what the fuck my mouth through. I'm sick of this shit. Now, let me see what? You really not about this life. Huh? About this shit.

Let me see. son, what if, bro, what if he says suck my dick and the cop just took a knee, bro? That's what I'm saying. No, son. That's what I'm saying. I'm telling you, one day one of you suck a dick motherfuckers is going to get what you asking for. I'm serious. One day you suck a dick people is going to get what you asking for.

Real talk. You're talking about NBA players demanding what they want. Y'all have a very specific ass. And y'all keep saying that shit to people and watch what the fuck happens, man. I'm telling you. You might get your dick suck by something you don't want to suck by. A cop is definitely. You really want a cop to suck your dick?

Come on, dog. He just rolls that shit into a donut. Bro. That'll be the worst thing for you. A cop suck your dick and then look you in the eyes and say, Black lives do match. Yo, what the fuck? Yo, what the fuck?

You, you know, stop. Yeah. You're wild, bro. The bitch, what the fuck? You cleaning off your face. The cleaning on your face, bitch. You didn't have to suck his sloppy, bro. You didn't have to use all the saliva everywhere.

But by the way, if a cop ever did do that, you would disrespect the shit out that cop. Get where, what do you mean? You would be fucking rammed. You'd be nothing in his face. There's a lot of porn like that, though. You'd be slapping your dick around his fucking mouth. Yo, son, look at this guy.

I got this cop sucking my dick, son. Shalda. Then later on, you'll see the cop be like, that's that punk-ass cop who suck my dick. Sad, son. Why the cop got to be a dude? Sad. It could have been a girl cop.

That's nothing. Everybody cares about that That's nothing That's nothing Who don't fuck cares about that? Come on now Yeah Oh fuck

That wouldn't be an entertaining storyline You'd be like what Jesus Christ Now listen You know who else I'm gonna tell you who's what a fucking idiot Tanya Salee

And um What's the other young lady's name Tanya Saleh and, oh, what's her name? It's the Middle East and Eastern Europe influencer. What's she say? Oh, Tenaa Salehila Lakab. They both in support of Black Lives Matter decided to put on blackface.

So they put the black face on. One of them put an Afro on. The other one put brown on one. They put brown paint on one side. And she put, we're all black on the inside. She said we're all black on the inside? All black on the inside. No, what did she say?

Let me read this stupid shit. I wish I was black. Oh, one of them, the one that put the Afro on said, I wish I was black because my idols and music and dance are black. All the athletes I respect are black, right? The other young lady said, just because we're black on the outside doesn't mean we're black on the inside. Racist people are the true blackhearted ones.

They are black on the inside and they know it. Too woke, bro. Too fucking woke. Sometimes when you too woke, you know, you don't think straight because sleep deprivation is a real fucking thing, man. You got to get them naps, bro. Nap time. All you woke people, get them naps, man. Take the nap.

You know what it is? I think you could tell how many black friends people have by the way they protest. And the crazier to protest, the fewer black friends they know. Like, there's no way that those two girls have a. single black friend in their entire phone. Because no black friend would be like, nah, that's a good thing to do. Name one black person that would see them

with their half of their face painted black and go, nah, you really show and support. That's what we needed. Yeah, we would absolutely be like, yo, knock it the fuck off. And why wouldn't you run that by some of your black friends? Because they don't have any black friends. They don't have no black friends. They have no, I'm telling you, bro, you could really, people who don't have any black friends, they don't want to be

they might come from a good place. They don't want to seem racist, but they truly don't know how to show black people they're not racist, so they go over the top with it. They're trying to be like too woke and they end up doing this goofy as shit. They might know black people, but they're not friends with them.

Yeah, they know some black people, but not well enough to like ask them if they should paint their face black or not or like wear an afro. Another positively brilliant, I mean, first of all, the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan has been positively brilliant

for over 60 plus years. But there was a social experiment that happened this week that I found so interesting. Which was? Chelsea Handler posted an old video of the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan when he was on Donahue.

And it's him breaking down, you know, white privilege to our audience. You know, and it's when Farrakhan was saying, I really don't think you fully understand what has happened to these people you look at as second class, our inferior citizens in this nation. And he was breaking down

how black people were bought to this country and scripted their name and their language and their culture and their religion and their God and all of that.

Right? And Chelsea posted it with the caption. I learned a lot from watching this powerful video. Jamila Jamil reposted it with the caption

and I got to find her exact caption. I got to find who sent me this yesterday because man, this was so goddamn hilarious. Hold on. Let me see, man. Somebody sent me this shit yesterday. Who the fuck sent me this?

Jamila, Jamil video. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got it. I got it right here. Hold on. Y'all know Jamila, Jamil, right? Yes. Okay.

She's like the body shaming thing. Yeah, Jamila posted the same video and put, someone please tell me the name of this extraordinary man who so perfectly sums up white fear in under a minute, right? So then, like, Jennifer Aniston liked it, and Michelle Pfeiffer and Sean Hayes, right? All of these white people. Today, the Daily Beast runs an article. Hollywood celebs are praising an anti-Semitic hate monger, right?

And they said, do your homework. So all of these people, except for Chelsea Handler, so far, have pulled down their Honorable Minister Louis Farrakom post, right? Because, you know, the media wants to pay Minister Farrakhan is anti-Semitic and, you know, homophobic and misogynistic, all of these different things, right? What I found interesting is that the truth can never be denied. When somebody says something honest and truthful, and you don't have no context to it,

like you don't have no context about the person saying it, nothing. You're just listening to the words that are coming out of their mouth. It resonates with you. And it resonates with you so much that you want to share it. So what does it say when you find out that the media may feel a certain way about this person, so they start changing the narrative of this person to you. Does it change the truth that they spoke? Should they have taken those videos down, regardless of how they felt about who the messenger

was? Or should the truth have been spoken regardless? Because they always say God uses the people that you would least suspect, right, to deliver certain messages. So if that message touched you, should it impact you any less because of who it came from? I think the message shouldn't, but we do understand that messengers are important. And I think that Chelsea Handler's Jewish, right? Yes.

I think that Chelsea Handler, since she's Jewish, can be way more comfortable reposting the honorable Minister Farrakhan because if he said some things that people deem anti-Semitic, she could be like, well, look, I'm Jewish and I'm posting this. what are you going to say? I'm anti-Semitic. Whereas Jennifer Anderson, these other people who might not be Jewish, have to live in fear that they could be labeled as an anti-Semite

because they're supporting this guy who has said things they're anti-Semitic. Or people interpret as anti-Semitism. And you're right, and I get it. But my thing is this, doesn't matter if what he said in that moment that you agree with is true. So now you're going down to really,

now you're going down to really tough situation where it's like people could go, this is what people say to you. They go, well, Charlemagne, if the, you know, this racist guy from the KKK said some things, you know, that were similar to like, you know, what Jesus said in the Bible, is that cool that that message is true? I think y'all have listened to me long enough to know that I can, I understand nuance. Right, right. And I'm a stern believer, you can learn something from anything. Right. But are you willing to listen is the thing, right? Because think about it. If I'm walking down the road, road. Right. And the KKK member says, hey, don't go down there. They're going to shoot you. Am I going to ignore him because he's a KKK member? It's a good point. If you're walking down the road and honorable Louis Minniff to Lewis Firecans says, look, for the next half mile, it's nothing but land mines. Are you going to not listen to him? All right. Here's the thing. Reposting it and liking it seems like a cosine of the person. So, you know, we had this discussion on

flagrant, but we can, we very, it's very difficult for us to separate the art from the artists, but we can separate the science from the scientists. You know what I mean? Probably because we don't know no scientists except for Neil degrassi Tyson and Bill Nye. Degrassi. Degrassi, bro. Yeah. So I guess what I'm trying to say is like if a fucking scientist told you some shit is true. Mm-hmm.

And they were really fucked up person. They did some foul stuff, you know? Neil DiGrassey Tyson. You're not going to listen to Neil deGrassey Tyson because he got me too?

Does it depend on how much you hate the person? I wouldn't, I wouldn't listen to Neil deGrassey Tyson anyway, bro. That's not his name? What the fuck is his name? It is Neil DeGrasse,

but DeGrasse is funny because that's where Drake got shot. Oh, okay. Well, Neil DeGrasse. God, the grass sounds so plain. You're confusing dorky black guys. Well, listen, you're not going to listen to listen to listen to him because he got me too.

Exactly, right? You're not going to listen to what he has to say about science because he got me too. Exactly. So it's like maybe this thing that the minister said within itself, that message resonates with you regardless of who said it. It could be your mom, it could be some chick named Natalie, it could be anybody, right? Yes. Yes. So that's what you're saying. What you're saying is it don't matter who said it as long as it resonates with you. And I guess what I'm saying is people think that if you like a page, then you and, you know, Jamila Hill is a

perfect example. If you like... Jamel Hill. Jamel Hill. Jamela Hill has just got taken off all assert bottles. Aunt Jamila. Aunt Jamila is no longer on the set. No, but like Jamel Hill is like if you like any meme page that has ever had something slightly

racist on that meme page, she will find that out and she will like expose you even if you're like a fifth round draft pick, right? So there's a very version of Jamel Hill that does the exact same thing for people who like, you know, pages that might have anti-Semitic rhetoric or homophobic rhetoric or setter on it. So that same gotcha journalism exists on both sides when the reality is maybe that meme page had a funny meme that wasn't racist and maybe this message by Mr. Farrakhan was

absolutely beautiful despite the other things he said that might be questionable by some people. Yeah, I think that I got to put people under the what a fucking idiot if you don't understand nuance. Because to me, this was such a great social experiment because it showed if you don't have no context to a person, right? Somebody is polarizing as the Honorable Minister Lewis Fragon. He's polarizing to a lot of people. Yeah. If you don't have any context about this person, Jamila, Jamil didn't even know who he was. But she heard those words coming out of his mouth.

That truth resonated with her so much. She had to repost it. Chelsea Handler heard that truth. She had to repost it. All these other celebrities heard that truth. They had to repost it. But once they are told by the media what to think about a person, then forget it.

Fuck, that's whacked to me. You know what it is? It's like when Trump and Kim Kardashian were working on getting that black person out of jail, right? It was like wrongfully accused or something. Alicia Johnson, I think her name was. Right. So it's like there were a lot of people that couldn't look at that specific. act and go, this is a good thing because it was attached to this person they despise so much.

You know what I mean? Yeah, that's stupid. And I know. And what you're saying is praise the act. Because the act isn't the person. Praise the message because that message isn't the person. Yes. It don't mean that you co-signed the guy that did it.

And even if it is the message coming from said person, that don't mean you should dismiss it. I think that we should all be a little bit, a little bit more intelligent enough to know that I'm not going to agree with everything a person says. But truth is truth regardless of who says it. Right is right regardless of who's doing it. Malcolm X had a quote. I'm going to find it.

Go ahead. Say your thought. You had a thought. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's a saying it's, you ready? People don't have ideas. Ideas have people. So we think that we're the ones We think we're the ones that are coming up with all these ideas

But the reality is is these ideas actually have us These ideas always exist Ideas are out in the ether An idea can be said by Minister Farrakhan But that same idea can be shared by Malcolm X It can be shared by Teddy Roosevelt It can be shared by anybody That idea exists out there in the ether

And maybe there's something that's special About Minister Faracom which allowed him to attach himself to it Yeah Right? But the idea exists separately from him. He doesn't own the idea. So liking the idea is not a reflection on liking the person delivering it. But the way we see social media, we always assume it is. I'm going to post this tomorrow. I've posted this before. But Malcolm X says, I'm for truth. No matter who tells it. Bang. I'm for justice. No matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost. And as such, I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. Simple is fucking that. Yeah. Like that's even though I got to put this under the what a fucking idiot, that's what Ben Carson was getting at when he said he wants everybody to stop being sensitive

and grow up in response to Trump's speech in Tulsa. Hmm. He said the U.S. needs to stop being offended about every fucking thing. Okay. And that's a fact. He said we've reached a point in our society where we dissect everything and try to subscribe some nefariousness. notion to it. That is very fucking true. When is the last time you saw something and actually just

thought that the person meant well? When the last time we've seen something on Twitter go viral because people aren't picking it apart? Yeah, you just trusted the messaging. Yes, when? When the last time? Like, I'm watching them go crazy on Jay Cole who has been a hip-hop media darling for so long. and I'm like, am I missing something here? Yeah, I could feel it in the air. There's a little, people want to cancel right now. Can you feel it? Like people are anxious, people are angry, they're like, nah, we need to flex the muscle a little bit right now.

Can we cancel white supremacy? Can we cancel systemic racism? Can we cancel police brutality? Can we, you talk about being distracted. Y'all talking about the NBA being a distraction. Fucking Jay Cole put out a song last night and everybody, distracted. I didn't know what's going on. I'm catching all backstory here. You know, I saw the tweet from the young lady named No Name. No Name, yeah. My niece Naila put me on because

Naila was putting me on to No Name's music a while ago because she was saying how I would really like No Name because she's dope and she speaks for something and no name posted a tweet and she said, poor black folks all over the country are putting their bodies on the line in protest for our collective safety and your favorite top selling rappers, not even willing to put to tweet up niggas whole discographies be about black plight and then nowhere to be found. Jay Cole put out a song yesterday called Snow on the Bluff where he's basically, I guess, replying to her tweet. And Jay Cole basically said, he even tweeted out this morning, I haven't done a lot of reading.

And I don't feel well equipped as a leader in these times, but I do a lot of thinking. And I appreciate her as in no name and others like her because they challenge my beliefs. And I feel that in these times, that's important. And I was listening to Jay Cole's song and listening to what he said about no name. And I understand what all the black women are saying, saying that, you know, at a time where black women are being attacked and getting found dead and things of that nature.

Yeah. It just sounds kind of crazy for a man to be being passive, aggressive, towards a woman in a sense. And I get that. I totally understand that, right? You got to read the room sometime. But I also agree with Jay Cole in the sense that, Why did people make Jay Cole out to be a revolutionary?

Who died and made Jay Cole, Tupac? Tupac? I think Jay Cole leaned into it. I don't think he did at all. You don't think so. You don't think the music has been woke. You don't think the music has had a message. Do you listen to Jay Cole, though?

Not just as mainstream. I'm talking about like, do you listen to his, like... Yes, and I, but not only do I listen to Jay Cole's music, I listen to Jay Cole's interviews. And I'm on record. I've said it before. When I listen to Jay Cole's interviews, I've always heard a brother who's still trying to figure it out.

He's not even able to articulate what he feels sometimes. He just knows he feels it. That's why I think the pen is so good for a brother like that. Because when he sits down and he can write those rhymes, he can tell you what he thinks. He can tell you what he believes, right? But he may not have the answers or the solutions to the problems. You know what I mean?

He can just tell you what he's feeling and what he's experiencing. But they exalted Jay Cole as this leader of a revolution. Like when the protests broke out, they're like, where Jay Cole at? Where Kendrick at? Like, I don't expect them to be there. You know what I expect these guys to be? In the studio, making the soundtrack to the protests. I'm waiting for Kendrick too.

It's his birthday today too. But guess what? If you don't put out no music, I'm not tripping. I'm not forcing Andrew to do a set during Chrome. You know what I'm saying? Andrew, where your new material at? What if Andrew fucking depressed? What if Andrew got anxiety?

What if Andrew going through some shit? What if Andrew don't feel like being creative in this moment? They don't see that though. They don't see celebrities as that. That is true, but like, I'll be honest, like we did a couple pieces on what's going on, you know, and we thought it was important to do it. And we used the platform that we have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did everything that I thought that I could do it in my power and using the skill that I have and the platform and the access I have to kind of explain.

these things and we did it, you know, Alex, my guy, Mark, like, that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to contribute to this movement and whatever way we can. I think, that being said, I've never been an activist. Y'all know that that's not my thing. I never claimed to be an activist. And maybe some people thought of Jay Cole as an activist and then not seeing him or, again, I don't know enough about his music to make an accurate statement, but maybe they thought not seeing him as present or something like that was like, yo, you're always, you're always

here and loud before, but we haven't seen you doing this now. Maybe they were questioning that. I mean, he was at a couple. I don't know enough to say, but that's, I'm asking. But he was at a couple protests. And I think sometimes, man, we mistake support for activism. Right. If I show up to a protest, it doesn't mean that I'm an activist.

It means that I'm showing support. Right. If I'm standing in a fucking car, if I'm standing in a garage, I'm not a car. You know what I'm saying? I mean, if you see me randomly standing in your garage, you should call somebody. but I'm just simply saying, like, just because I show up to a protest doesn't mean I'm an activist.

I'm just here to support. And that's what I think guys like J. Cole do. You know what it is? I think it's like when you create, and I hate to talk about comedy and stuff like that, like art, because I think it's kind of like boozy. But like when you create content, let's say, in the way that you do or I do,

we reflect on the culture, right? When I mean the culture, I don't just mean like black culture. I mean like whatever's happening within culture at the time. Absolutely. If it's Trump, if it's Biden, if it's protest, whatever it is. So for me to put out a video or a piece that didn't reflect what was going on with George Floyd would be phony for me. Because I always reflect on what's going on.

So I feel like of course Jay Cole, if he puts out music, he's going to reflect what's going on, right? Because that's just kind of what he does naturally, no? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. you're putting out party songs right now, you're missing the point a little bit. Little Baby dropped fire. What's the name of that little baby record? Little Baby song's so goddamn hard

and he rapping about what's going on right now. What's the name of that record, Taylor? Oh, that's right. He just dropped an album, right? Man, that shit's so hard. No, it wasn't an album, is this a song. Little Baby dropped a hard-ass record. Meek Mill dropped a hard-ass record

with other side of America. But guess what? That's what those brothers... The bigger picture. The bigger picture. The bigger picture. Bigger picture. That shit is hard.

You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, yo, if he was moved to make that, fine. If Andrew, you're moved to make those type of sketches or that commentary, fine. But you can't force people to do it. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's like you can't force people to be at protest. And I saw people saying, oh, Jay Cole, you know, he's not a real leader and this and that.

And I'm like, why is he not a real leader? Is he not a real leader? Because he admitted he don't read all the time? Like I saw that tweet. That tweet was. was wild, which I thought was hilarious, where he was like, you know, he don't really, I read it a little while ago, but it's just like, because he doesn't read, doesn't make him a great leader. Like, I don't think that matters. I think great leaders don't set out to be a leader. I think they set out to make a difference. Like, it's never about the role. It's about the goal. Jay Cole has always set out to make a difference. Yeah, yeah. Let me ask you his question. Like, you know how like, if your boss treats you like shit at work or whatever the authority figures treat you like shit at work, you know how sometimes, you know, you know how sometimes. The husband comes home or the wife comes home and then treats the family like shit. Absolutely.

And she wants to treat the boss like shit, but she can't because they're an authority figure. So she ends up treating the people like shit that she can, right? Which are the people closest to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder if that's kind of what's happened right now, which is like people are just really furious that the authority figures, you know, the police are treating. Oh, yes. Black people like shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And since you can't act out on the police officers outside of time. You're like, all right, well, we got to take out this anguish on the people closest to us. And Jay Cole might be one of those people. You know what I mean? Like. Jay Cole said something this morning in one of those tweets. He said, uh, we all got to be easy with each other. We all got to be kind to each other.

Something to be nice to each other. And he, yo, he's absolutely right. My brothers, my sisters, everybody's hurting. Yeah. Everybody is in pain. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's tender right now. Like, everybody is literally.

out here trying to do their best. I don't think Jay Cole had any ill intention when it came to, you know, replying to no name. No name is a rapper, right? So Jay Cole did what he did. Jay Cole rapped. He didn't tweet. Jay Cole don't be tweeting crazy like that.

No name, salute to her. She posted a tweet and she expressed herself. And guess what? She didn't name no names, but a hit dog Will holler. So Jay Cole said himself. He felt like he wasn't doing a name. enough. So no name was absolutely right. No name hit one of Jay Cole's pain bodies in that moment because Jay Cole probably is sitting around hurt, vulnerable, trying to figure out a

solution to things and feel like he wasn't doing enough. So he went in the studio and he expressed himself. I think that Jay Cole was just using that as an entry point to let everybody know I'm not the leader of this movement. I am not the activist leader that you're think I am. I'm just simply trying to figure it out. And I think that's what we get things fucked up. Is J. Cole a leader of the new school when it comes to rap? Hell, yeah.

For the past decade, J.School has been a part of that three-headed monster with Drake and Kendrick. Yeah. But does that mean he's Temeca Mallory? No. Right. Does that mean he's my son? No.

Right. Does that mean he's Linda Sarsar? No. Does that mean he's Philip Agnew? No. He's not one of those activists that's out there on the front lines. He just shows up to protest in support. y'all made him that and now when a person doesn't meet your expectation of them you're disappointed

that's the problem with us right now as a people we have an expectation of people that we create in our own mind yeah yeah that's interesting and then they don't meet our expectation that we gave them and then we get disappointed when they're like yo i didn't ask for none of this man i just wanted to make really cool music that had a message in it like that's it i think yeah i think you have I think you hit the nail in the head there. He said, I don't read a lot, but I think a lot. He's a thought leader. He's listening to Jay Cole's music.

You know, he's a thought leader. Yeah. He's able to provide soundtracks for things that are going on. Yo, I think you're right about that, man. But I really also think it has to do with, like, just being hurt and having no outlet for the anger and then touching the people that are closest to you, right? Like, because that's what we do. Like, when we're in a bad mood, I find myself doing this in a bad mood.

Like, and it sucks. but if I'm in a bad mood and then like a friend of mine does something or like puts a can somewhere where it shouldn't be or whatever I'm like, yo, you're just going to leave that there? I don't give a fuck if they leave a can on the table but I'm lashing out because I got some shit going on

in my life. Yeah, yeah. So I can totally, yeah. And I look at all the sisters online and the sisters are saying things like, you know, um, Jay Cole got the nerve to tell black women to be patient. Listen, I totally get it.

I totally understand why black women, you know, don't have patience. with us anymore. I totally understand. But I just think we all need to be patient with each other because whether we realize it or not, we're all in this together. Black men are getting killed.

Black women are getting killed. Black trans people are getting killed. Like, we're all in this together. Like, we're not each other's enemies. Well, it's going to be tough for the person who says it and they're going to have to find a way more eloquent way to say it than the way I'm going to say it. But like, in a situation like this, you can't have an all lives matter approach.

You have to have a specific goal. And some people are going to have to sacrifice. Like, I've been talking to friends. I can't say where they work, but they work in, you know, certain industries. And they're like, how do we affect change within our industry, right? People who are part of like big corporations. And they literally said at these tables, they've gone, you know what? We're going to make this the prime focus.

We're going to make black equality the prime focus. And you know what that means? that means the cancer kids got to take second fiddle. That means women's rights got to take second fiddle. That means that special needs got to take second fiddle.

That means we're going to ignore those other issues because this specific issue and if we're going to do anything to change it requires all our focus. And that's the whole idea between Black Lives Matter versus All Lives Matter, but you can't All Lives Matter your own movement.

You see what I'm saying? No, I get you. I just think it's very weird that we can't walk and chew gum at the same fucking time. Now you can't. No, no. In this situation, you can't. If you want to chew the fuck out of that gum

and get every bit of flavor out of it and make sure you feel every bit of flavor that that gum has, you need to sit there and focus on the flavor. You can walk and chew gum and talk on the phone and do all those things, but while you're talking on the phone,

you're going to forget what flavor the gum is. And while you walk in, you're going to forget about the phone call. I just think that it takes a allied, concerted effort between black people, white people, black men, black women, men, women, LGBT, black people, like. What is civil rights about, man?

Civil rights, at the end of the day, we talk about how it's about equality, right? But in its essence, civil rights is about sacrifice. Civil rights is people who have privilege, per se. I don't even like to call it privilege, because it's not a privilege that I don't get killed by the cops. That's the bare minimum that I don't get killed by the cops. That's what everybody should have bare minimum, right? That shouldn't be some benefit I get. But the idea of civil rights is people who are getting more have to sacrifice some of what they have for other people to come up.

And that doesn't just mean white people. That also means maybe people within the black movement, maybe it's like, you know what? We want black trans lives. We want our support and everything right now too. But maybe it's the black trans movement starts to go, you know what? What's more important right now is black lives matter. and we're going to get to our shit after and Black Lives Matter,

you better support us when the focus is just on us because we're going to take this, we're going to take this sacrifice right now to push this to the top. Yeah, I mean, but that's, hold on one second, hold on one second. Yeah, this is an interesting conversation.

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Yeah, I just want to say I want to, what you said is absolutely true. But that goes back to what I said. When I said, it has to be an allied concerted effort. Because, yes, black people cannot change or dismantle a system that we didn't create. So it does take those people that have privilege, those white people that are in positions of power, to give up some of that privilege in power. Like, they just have to. Like, in order to make this world equal, we all.

have to do that. White people got to give up some of that privilege and power for for black people and others. That is the idea of similar. Men got to give up some our privilege and power to make the share with other women, to share with women. And that's why I don't even like, I hate that term make space. I don't, I don't, because this is, this is all gods, right? So we're not making space for anybody. You know what I mean? If anything, we're just finally being, let's be more welcoming. Let's all be intentional about being welcoming. It's make, opportunity, not space. You know what I mean?

Just give opportunities. Like give everybody. There you go. The idea. Isn't that the idea? The idea of civil rights. It's not making space is, hey, you guys can have your own water fountain. Over there, I made some space for your own water fountain.

Making opportunity is like, nah, we all going to share the waterfound. You know, and if that means you got to wait a little longer at your waterfound, that's what it means. Now, by the way, I don't mind having my own water fountain. I don't know what I get it. I get the analogy was. The analogy's on point, but I don't mind having my own water. You know, it's mad funny?

Do you think, like, black people saw the way that white people kiss our dogs in the mouth? And they were like, yo, should we get our waterfowls back? Why the fuck we share our waterfathers? What the fuck what we think of, bro? For real. Some of the segregation ain't all bad. So, I just sent you something, Charleneen, about Omar Johnson. He was kind of trying to say that.

Oh, God. But this is the first time I kind of, in a way, I see what he's talking about. But he's saying like, you know, when it comes to protesting and stuff of that, we can't have a successful protest. Like, black people can't have a successful protest because if white people get involved because it now shows like a mix or something. And he said something like where it takes away from what our purpose. Because like what you guys said earlier, it becomes into like a all.

I haven't. I haven't listened to what he said, but I highly disagree. And the reason I disagree because if. if the protest is for Black Lives Matter. It doesn't matter who's protesting. You know what I'm saying? If black people are out there on the front lines and white people on the front lines and Asian people,

but we're protesting for this specific thing, it doesn't matter. Like, listen, so you're telling me that people with cancer can't protest for people with age? Yeah, exactly. Like, what are you saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to hear the audience.

By that whole, Taylor, by that logic, by that logic, men can't stand. up for women then? By your logic, men can't, by that logic, men can't stand up for women. It's an interesting point. It was how he said it though, which I can see what he's meaning. It's an interesting point. It just has a lot of holes on it, and it's not exactly how you structurally fit this. Because if the goal is integration and the goal is reform, you need the side that is rejecting to be part of it.

If the goal is revolution and take over and destroy, then you don't give a fuck what the side is. Yeah. But the reality of the matter is, as a minority, in a country, you have to get the support of the majority in order to have equal opportunity. So I think you want it. And if you notice the big changes that have happened, that's when there has been unilateral support for the movement. Right?

I think you want people to recognize. And I think if there's one thing that we learn from these protests is there are a lot of white people, a lot of Asian people, a lot of brown people who are like, yo, black lives matter to us, bro. Yes, because they don't only just love black culture. They love black people. And if you don't think it matters,

Be the lone white boy in the hood. Be the lone white boy in the hood who loves hip hop and loves hip hop culture and wants to dress and talk and listen to the music and you love black women. Let's see how that goes for you if you don't got no black support. Right. Let's see if they give a fuck about you without any black support. Let's see how that goes for you. Yeah, that's a great point. It goes both ways.

It goes both ways. You need to support. of other individuals sometimes in certain circumstances. I think this is one of those crucial turning points in America where we need each other. That's a brilliant way of putting it, man. Because I remember when I was younger, I'd go hang out, buddy of mine, and he lived out in Brooklyn by Eastern Parkway.

And I'd be walking. Black Jamaicans everywhere. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Super Jamaican. What you're doing around here, white boy? Exactly. So, and, um, I,

I remember, and I remember I'd be like walking in a neighborhood and then, you know, some people would maybe like ask some questions or whatever. And there'd be someone else who's like, nah, nah, no, that's Saddiki's boy. Everything's cool. Yeah, right? Exactly. I got to know who you are. You might be an undercover cop. You might be a pedophile.

You might have Mark. Right? You might have your white van around the corner trying to kidnap kids. I don't know the fuck this. What are you doing? 100%. But once somebody for a neighbor was like, nah, nah, he's cool. Right?

That's it. That's literally all civil rights. It's just like, nah, no, they're cool. Like, yo, why are you giving them a hard time? Like, yo, yo, yo, what's going on? Leave it alone. Everything's cool. By the way, that sounds like a joke, but it's not because think about it.

If you are old white politician, what, what reason would Lyndon B. Johnson have to do this, or John F. Kennedy to start the talks of the Civil Rights Acts and the voting rights acts other than, other than, look, these people are cool. and they're going to tear our fucking country up if we don't fucking do the right thing. You know what I mean? Like eventually empathy has to kick in where you got to say to yourself,

okay, what we're doing is wrong. Like this is wrong. And I refuse to believe that at some point, human empathy doesn't kick in. And somebody in those positions of power says, we have to do right by these people. Or we have to do right by black people.

We got to do right by women. We got to do right by gays. eventually there is something, yo, that George Floyd video, everybody's empathy kicked in. You can't be a fucking human with a soul and watch that video and not have empathy kick in

and eventually be like, fuck, no, we gotta stop this shit. That shouldn't happen to any human. Yeah, and I think what you're seeing is like the outcry of support, I think is also a reflection of like integration, right? Like the internet has kind of made the world really small and we've all kind of like started appreciating each other

and appreciating each other's culture and you have a lot of white people, even through, like, TikTok dances or really getting to know, like, fun, uh, fun black things that when it never permeated their, like, super white life. Like, you know what I mean? That, like, I mean, like,

you see these, like, white girls doing these TikTok dances, that might never have entered their sphere 20 years ago. They might have net. I really believe that. White people have been stealing black people. Yeah, but say they've been stealing our shit. You didn't see, bring it on? Say again?

You didn't see bringing on. Are you working on? Bring it on. She got a point, though. Like, that was that whole movie was about, that whole movie was about colonization. Not all. Bring it on.

Bring it on. It's all about colonization, bro. I'm telling you. I'm not questioning whether white people have taken black culture, right? I think that's not what's up for grabs here. I'm thinking, like, now it's ubiquitous. Right? Now it's just like, if something is popular, there were times where things could be popular in a white world

and things will be popular in a black world. And now, if it's popular, it crosses over. And you've said this a lot, like, because black culture is mainstream culture. Hip-hop is pop culture, man. Hip-hop is pop culture, et cetera. And I think because of that, because there's so much familiarity,

when you see that guy with a knee on his back of his neck and then he ends up dying at the hands of a cop, and there's so many young kids right now that grew up with black friends that maybe never grew up with black friends 40 years ago. Right? You're literally, you're, okay. Go, go, go.

No, I was just going to say, they're literally, you're literally looking at a generation of white kids who grew up with black people being their heroes. Yeah. In every aspect. Sure. Whether it's politics, Barack Obama.

Sure, yeah. You know what I mean? Whether it's sports, it's the LeBron James, Kobe Bryant. Like, whether it's music, it's, you know, the Drake's and the J-Coles and the kids. You have a whole generation. of people where black people are their hero.

Yeah. Like, no matter what race you are, you can point to a black person and that person has inspired you in some way, shape, our form. And this protest is a reflection of that. This protest is like, no, these lives matter to me.

They matter to me growing up. They matter to me now. And maybe it's time that we do something. And I think a lot of people at these protests do not know what the fuck to do. But they know that they want something to be done. And show up. Yo, but here's the thing.

And eventually somebody's going to need to be the tip of the spear and somebody's going to need to decide where that spear goes. And I hope that happens sooner or later before too many people co-op the shit and make it about themselves. I think it's happening. I think you have too many grassroots organizations out there right now that have things on the table. Because it's starting with two things, right?

It started with, to me it started a couple years ago when we all started asking for a black agenda because we're not going to act like police reform, criminal justice reform, all these things weren't in the black agenda. It's not like cops just started killing black people with this last month, right? So all of this stuff has been going on.

But now it just shows the urgency for it. Coronavirus showed the urgency for it because of all the underlying conditions in the black community left the black community so vulnerable, right? Police brutality. Like it just shows the urgency for why you need police reform right now.

And let's be for real. It's a fucking election year. The Democrats need black people. So it shows the urgency of why they need to be out here doing something for black folks. And I'm going to tell you all something else. There's no police reform getting passed in no time soon.

This shit is going to be on the table until well after November. Okay. And depending on who went to November, it's going to be off the table all together. All right. Letting y'all know that right now. Don't think for one second that the House, the House Democrats are going to get there. Justice for Policing Act bill passed anytime soon. Don't think that Tim Scott is going to get whatever his bill is called.

I think his bill is named after Walter Scott, if I'm not mistaken. not show, but don't think that his bill's getting past anytime soon. There is no major police reform happening anytime soon. This shit is going to be a talking point up until November. Because let's be for real. Democrats had no other win that they had no other win. The things that we were trying to get them to lean into was blackness. We was trying to get Joe Biden to lean in the blackness and black issues and things that affect the black community. Now it's everybody's issues. So you don't even look like you're a leader. You're only like you're a leader on it. Now it looks like you're a leader on it. Now it looks like

You're just following the trend. And you can't even do that right. Yeah. They ask them a simple question. Like, do you want it to fund the police? He's like, nope, I don't believe in the fund the police. In fact, we need to give police $300 extra million to reform the police and this and that. I'm like, yo, can y'all word this better for the old man, please?

Yeah. Because you word it better for him? God damn. Can he answer it like Senator Harris answered it with her when she bodied it? Yes, you would love to take resources from this place and put them into this place. We have to go build up these communities because when you build up these communities. because when you build up these communities, it will help decrease crime all together.

Like, yes. You can't answer that no better, Joe Biden. So all I'm simply saying is, I don't even know what the fuck I'm saying. I lost my train of thought. That's why nobody should even listen to me. Police reform is it coming back. Oh, yeah, police reform is not,

it's going to be on the table well after, well, well after November. Oh, and that's the other point. I feel like I don't want everything else black people have been asking for, at least, you know, me, meaning like a black woman running mate, he already committed to putting the black one on the Supreme Court, a real comprehensive black agenda, you know,

because I feel like, you know, you can't atone for the sins of America in regards to black people without legislation and reparations. I don't want any of that to get lost because now people are focused on this cause, because it almost makes Democrats be able to tell black, people to go out there and have a sense of urgency when it comes to voting because of just the police reform issue as opposed to all the other issues that we need. You know what I'm saying? Police reform is major. Don't get me wrong. It's a major, major, major, major issue, but it allows them to not acknowledge everything else. You know what I'm saying? That one chip

allows them to not have to acknowledge everything else. And I want everything acknowledged. Because even if you're talking about the funding the police, that's what you're talking about doing. Taking money from them to put back in our communities. That's what that whole economic justice plan. That's what that whole equity plan. That's what all of that is about when it comes to the black community. So let's keep all of that on the table too.

God damn it. Okay? Let's not lose sight of that. I also want to salute Amanda Seals, positively brilliant, even though we're past positively brilliant, because that was kind of like the deep dive. I want to just say it's positively brilliant that BET decided to have Amanda Seals host to BET Awards this year.

I really wish that it wasn't virtual because I don't think y'all realize how much of a beast Amanda Seals is on stage. And I think that you need to go watch a smart, funny and black show. Go watch her host Smart Funny and Black, the game show she does. And you can see how good she is on that stage, singing, dancing, jokes, crowd participation. she's perfect to host an event like the BET Awards. So, you know, I wish it wasn't virtual and I know she'll get the opportunity to host it, you know,

on stage in front of people in a real way one day. But I am so happy that freaking the BET Awards picked her to be the host. That shows me that they're paying attention. Because also, if you're doing a virtual award, if the awards are virtual this year, she's one of the biggest virtual voices out there. You know what I mean? So it makes sense.

It makes sense to have her, you know, be the host this year. Because she is, even now, she does, she does smart funny and black online. She's got one this Friday. She's got one this Friday with, uh, Kareem Hardison and, um, Kareem Hardison and, uh, God damn it. Hold on. I, I need to get my black card revoke for not knowing who the fuck. Uh, uh, uh, God damn it.

Kareem Hardin, you said? Kareem Hardison from a different world I need my black car revolt I'm telling you I need it taken away from me this isn't right Yes, Kadim Hardison and Daryl M. Bell What the fuck?

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The announcements are a very important part of what we do in church. Oh, yo, I'm back on the road. I'm going for it. Let's go at DeAndrewsholst.com. End of the month, I'll be in Kansas City, Missouri. Then we've got a bunch more dates coming as well. So just go to Theandrewsholtz.com and a lot of those rescheduled dates that we had to cancel earlier in the year are popping up as well.

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some things that he wanted to get off his chest. He's not a social media user, so he's not on Instagram live. Right. He's not a huge interview guy. Like he'll do interviews, but he doesn't do them all the time. So he wasn't promoting anything, so he wasn't sitting down with anybody to have an interview. Right. He's not a podcast host, so he doesn't have a podcast.

I think that Dave Chappelle wanted to get some shit off his chest. And he went to his platform. And his platform is that motherfucking stage. Yep. And his backyard. I'm assuming that was in Ohio, right? I believe so. Yeah.

So he was home in his backyard and he gathered some of his people around and he had a nice social distance show. And I think he wanted to get some shit off his chest for 27 minutes. I didn't, that's how I looked at it. You know what I mean? I'm not, I'm not, I wasn't sitting back like, oh, my God, that was brilliant because I know I've seen Dave Chappelle be brilliant. You know what I mean? But I think that the whole context of what he presented to people. I thought that was brilliant.

You know what I mean? Because I think it's dope not to run to go do an interview. I think it's dope not to run to go do a podcast. I think it's dope not to get on Instagram and rant. I like the fact that he used his stage. I'm a radio personality.

If I got something I really want to get off my chest, I'm on that radio every day. If I'm a comedian and I got some shit, I want to get off my chest, even if it's not jokes, even if it's not funny, I'm going to get on that stage because you know why? That's what gives it the most impact.

I don't think a Dave Chappelle interview I don't think a Dave Chappelle appearance on a podcast would have had the same impact as it being packaged as a Dave Chappelle comedy special. And I would have called it a Dave Chappelle verbal scream of consciousness. Word to Kanye West. You know what I'm saying?

I would have called it a Dave Chappelle. That's what I call it. A Dave Chappelle verbal scream of consciousness. That's what that was to me. That's a really interesting way to look at it because in terms of impact, because millions of people saw it online and maybe they wouldn't have seen it

if it was an interview with the breakfast club or if it was an interview with you directly or if it was an interview with Rogan. Maybe it would have got a lot of views, but maybe not 20 million or whatever it did or 14, 15 million, etc. And we were talking on the phone about this I think it was a few days ago

because it's not a special. So you can't judge it as a special. People going, yo, it's not funny. It wasn't supposed to be funny. This is the most prolific comedian of alive today, in my opinion, he's the greatest comedian alive. Simple as that. If you thought that this was his attempt to be funny, you're wrong.

He knows how to be funny. He meant to deliver this. That being said, I know how prolific Dave Chappelle is. I know how brilliant he is. I don't think he even needs to make you laugh. He's so fucking smart and so genius. the way that he synthesized information and crunches into these digestible morsels in a way that you've never thought about before. He's literally a genius. I didn't think that there was anything

he said that there was that profound in it. I'll be honest. I didn't think he was offering new perspective. Like when I watched it, I wasn't blown away with the thinking based on a Dave Chappelle expectation. Like to me, when I hear Dave Chappelle talk, I'm like, I'm about to hear some of the most brilliant shit I could have never thought of because that's how genius he is. And then everything he said pretty much, maybe outside of like the Chris Dorner connection, everything he said, I think that we've heard a lot of people say. And that's okay too. He's allowed to share those feelings. And we're allowed to be excited by our hero expressing the same feelings we have.

That's totally fine. But when I saw people exulting and going, this was the most genius thing I've ever seen, I was like, have you not seen Dave Chappelle? Because if you've seen Dave Chappelle and you're familiar with his work, you don't think that this is close to as profound as other things he said. I agree. I think there is something to being able how to capture how people feel. Yep. You know what I mean? I think that's what artists do with music sometimes. Like sometimes a record comes out in a moment and it's like, damn, you know, he captured or she captured exactly how I felt. I think Dave's, the fact that we know Dave is so prolific, the fact that we know Dave can craft some of the, you know, most amazing, you know, thoughts in the world,

I think the fact that he was up there so unrefined, the fact that he was so emotional, the fact that he didn't really have the answers, that he didn't have things figured out, that he did seem like it was a state of confusion. I think he captured how people felt. I think that's how a lot of people feel right now.

I really do. I think it's almost like, it makes you feel better when you see somebody who has it all figured out, not having it figured out, It gives you more space to be like, yeah, I am fucking confused. I gives you more space to be like, yeah, I am fucking angry.

You know what I'm saying? It gives you the license to be that even more. I think so. That's a great way of looking at it. It's like, especially with music, because sometimes there's a song that don't have the best lyrics. Yeah. That don't have, it doesn't even have the best beat.

It doesn't even have the best production. But it captures how to fuck you feel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And by the way, we in an era right now where we're stripping everything down to the basics. There is no more, there is nothing refined about this moment. You know what I'm saying?

There's nothing refined about this moment. So to see him up there with his notepad and just going, I'm like, yeah, Dave. I mean, honestly, I wasn't just, I was highly entertained. You know what I mean? I watched it once.

I'm going to watch it again, but I was, when I saw it, I was like, Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like he captured the way I felt about a lot of things, you know. I mean, because like we've had those conversations. I had that shit about Don Lemon or even talking about LeBron overexceeding expectations. Like those are conversations that we were having here. Right. You know? I was shocked. I was shocked at him coming at Candace Owens. The only reason I was shocked is because that's a real, that's a real moon, barks back. at the dog moment. And I'm not calling Candace a dog at all. I'm just saying that there's an analogy. Yeah. That talks about the moon and the dog.

And it says when the dog walks at the moon, it's nothing. But when a moon balks back at the dog, it's noose. Right? And so Dave Chappelle, first of all, Candace Owens is unstoppable. Unstoppable. And the reason I know she's unstoppable is because of the way she responded to what Dave Chappelle said. She said to Dave Chappelle, you insert the clip, the Dave clip with, I think Candace Owens.

try to convince white America. Don't worry about it. He's a criminal anyway. I don't give a fuck what this nigga did. I don't care what this nigga did. I don't care if he personally kicked Candace Owens and her stinky pussy. I don't know if it stinks, but I imagine it does. If I ever find out, I'll let you know for sure. I'll tell like Azealia Banks, I'll tell. Candace said in a tweet, to every Democrat tweeting me the clip of Dave Chappelle insulting me, I'm not a leftist.

I have a sense of humor and I think comedians should make fun of people. Dave Chappelle is one of the greatest comedians of all time and I made it on and I made it into one of his specials. That's power.

She's absolutely fucking right. And then the next one, the follow up was even crazier. I don't have that one. He says, say it to my face. You say that shit to my face, though. With a laugh, right? With a laugh, yeah.

And I don't know why I wrote about this in my book, Shook on Anxiety Playing Tricks on Me. Learn from me, right? Because I told y'all back in the day when I tweeted that stupid-ass tweet, when I was like, you know, who are the woke women of color that we can, you know, empower and make a voice like Tommy, Lauren, right?

When I said that dumb shit, right? Stupid, stupid, dumb of me to say, right? Because what I should have said is, who are the women and left Tommy out of it? Who are the women in this space that we can empower? Because all I was simply saying was we empower people with our hate. We get online and we talk about how much we don't like these people. And then the people that like them come on defending these folks.

And next thing you know you got this perfect storm of just whoever that person is. And you think you're hurting them, but you're not. So when you're somebody like Candace Owens, who's like a goddamn, she's like black, they got the black panther suit on. The more you hit her, she absorbs the energy and she gets stronger and stronger. Dave made her so fucking strong.

Can't stop her, bro. The only way, the only way. Yeah, go, go, go. No, the only way you can stop a Candace Owens is to ignore her. Yes, yes. But guess what? She's too good for you to ignore.

She knows how to antagonize, bro. She knows how to antagonize you. She knows how to agitate you. She knows what to say to get you going. Yeah. What's that shit? What Will Ferrell say? I don't know what it is.

But it gets the people going. Oh, yeah. Like that's, yo, she has that thing. And guess what? She puts it out there and y'all keep giving it back to her. And Dave, Dave immortalized her. Straight up. He did.

He did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You would like to see Dave. Because Dave has the intellect to chop her down. So you would like to see him chop her down. And then he just went with like a kind of easy joke about the pussy stinking.

Yeah. And, um, yeah. I know the thing with Candice is really interesting is because she doesn't have to be worried about being canceled because the side that's canceling her is not the side that pays her. You only got to be worried about being canceled by the people who pay you. You know what I mean? The side that's trying to cancel her is doing nothing but promoting her and marketing her. So she's getting more money from the other side. Yes, man.

And everybody loves a bad guy. So it's just like, yo, people root for the villain. So she's embraced that role. She's a villain to one side, a hero to the other. Well, she plays a really interesting part in the ecosystem because she plays, she is a character that's been exalted by the right to remove white people any of white people's guilt or responsibility

for what's happening to black people and black Americans. Yeah, absolutely. That's her goal and that's her position. She might truly believe the things that she says, but the people that pay her are using her like a toy. So they're like, hey, white people don't want to feel bad about the black plate in America. So we're going to give you some facts,

and you're going to take these facts and you're going to go tell black America and white America that this is the real reason why black people are going through this, right? And the reason it's so effective is because the white people on the right that don't want to feel guilty go, oh, few, it's not my fault. And then the white people on the left can't call her out for her privilege because she's of minority status too. So the white people have to listen to her

or else they're silencing a black woman. So the white people on the left got to take her, for her word, not her identity. If I said any of the shit to Candace said, they'd be like, shut up, you're a white male, you don't know shit. But since she's a black woman, they've got to sit there patiently and listen.

And then if these people on the left are not disciplined in their arguments, she'll eat them to fuck up. And that's the thing, right? What you said about Dave Chappelle, you know, like Dave Chappelle's an intellect. You know, he's articulate. Like, he could break the Candace Owens thing down

in a much more, like, scientific way, right? Yeah. When you hit her with the steak pussy thing, her audience is like, that's the best you got for Candace? Yep. Because even if you don't agree with the things that she's saying,

which, you know, like, if you don't agree with the things that she's saying, you can't deny that she still has something, she's some thought behind it. She's giving it some thought.

Whether her facts are wrong, whether she's dead wrong, she's giving some, she's given some thought to it, and she's able to articulate it in an intellectually sounding way. Republicans and right-wing, people will always have more sound arguments because they're arguing in a lot of times

against progress. Okay. So they'll always have more sound arguments because the thing they're arguing is harder. If you're saying affirmative action shouldn't happen, right? You better have some good fucking arguments as to why it shouldn't happen. I think, I think, um, I think that you do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, I think it's like facts. It's facts versus feeling sometimes?

Exactly. Yep. But if I'm a black person in America. Yeah. If you're a white privileged person, you would never know how I feel. If you're a gay person, if you're a gay person that's ever been oppressed, marginalized woman, gay, black, I don't care how many facts you as a white privileged man spit at me. You can't tell me how to fuck I feel because whether it statistically or just my every day. day life, I know what it is I go through.

But here's the thing. What they do is they get someone that looks just like you to tell you how you feel. Tell me that I'm bugging. Exactly. And that's why you got that, the black sheriff from Wisconsin or wherever he's from? Yeah. I forget. David something.

David Clark. So they'll get some guy that looks like you to tell you you're wrong, right? You don't fuck with the right no more. Say again? You don't really fuck with the right no more. Look, I don't know where he is. But I understand. And again, I'm not saying these people are lying or insincere or inauthentic.

What I'm saying is the people. people that promote them have a reason for promoting them. Yes. Does that make sense? Oh, listen, I had somebody tell me verbatim, I'm not going to put the executive's name out there. Slide your computer a little bit that way, so you're in the middle. Yeah, that's better. I'm not going to put the executive's name out there, but I had somebody tell me that at Fox News,

they will tell a black personality, I'll make you a star. Oh, yeah. If you're willing to go MAGA. If you're willing to go MAGA, I'll make you a star. So a lot of these people are just doing it for profit. So 100%, 100% because they need the voices to quiet, right? And the Democrats do this too, but they don't do it with people of color.

The Democrats do it with kids. Explain. So if there's an issue that's important to Democrats, they let kids argue it. For example, the environment is really important to Democrats. Who's the big environmentalist person? Leonardo DiCaprio. Nope.

Well, Greta Thumburg. Oh. Right? Gun rights. I only know what that is. Greta Thunberg is that Swedish chick that they sail all around the world and she's super like, we got to take care of the environment, right? Okay.

Anti-gun people. You know, Democrats are very anti-gun. Who makes all the arguments for anti-gun stuff? Kids from Parkland. The Parkland kids. You have kids make your arguments because the philosophy is if you're telling a kid to shut up, then you're an asshole.

So you're not going to look at the kid and tell them to shut up, especially if they're an actual victim of the gun violence, right? Now, if you're a right-wing dude telling a kid to shut up, we're like, yo, what the fuck is wrong with you? How rude are you? You're a piece of shit. You always want to put the figure out there. It's a proxy war, right?

You always want to put the figure out there that can't be argued effectively or shut down effectively by the other side. Well, I wonder, let's dissect that a little bit, right? I wonder if, I wonder if, I don't think that's by design. I think that every movement or every bit of change that has ever happened in this country has been led by young people. You know what I'm saying? And when you have the Parkland shooters who have been through what they've been through, they adopt that cause.

You know, like every, like every, there's not a movement in America that wasn't led by the youth. Martin Luther King wasn't young, though. Yes, he was. He wasn't a kid. He was young as fuck. He was about Martin Luther King died at, what, 39? son, that's not, Parkland kids are 16 years old. No.

There's a difference between 16 and 39. Not now. Parkland kids got to be in their 20s. Probably older. Yeah, but they started becoming activist post-Parkland when they were still in high school. And Martin started young. That's what I'm saying.

Let me see how old. Martin was... He was 39 when he died. Yeah, he was 39 when he died. So that's... But he started when like 25 or so. No, he was younger than that. There's a difference between being 25 years old

and being a minor. And if you're using minors as... And please poke holes, by the way. But if you're using minors, to push out, you know, the narrative or your agenda, it's, you're doing it on purpose. You think that there's value in it. You think that this messaging can get across way better

and way more effectively with younger people because less people will scrutinize them. They'd be like, oh, well, here's a well-intentioned kid trying to make change in the world. Instead of if you're 25 years old, they're like, well, your arguments aren't actually that sound and you're actually not making sense. Yeah, he started.

They said he started around 1955. I don't, somebody do the math. But, yeah, I mean, listen, I don't disagree with you. I just think that a lot of these, movements are started by the youth. So I really don't think Democrats be having a choice. You know what I'm saying? I think that when you're a progressive and you're leaning towards the left,

especially when they say that they went too far left, that's what these kids want. These kids want radical fucking change. And they don't feel like the moderates Joe Biden's and Amy Klobuchar's, even the President Obama's, are giving it to him. You know what's funny is that like the Democrat Party is this, is the party of progress, is the party of change, is the party of youth. But every time I see Democrats, they're 100 years old.

Nancy Pelosi is 200 years old. Chuck Schumer is 100 years old. Joe Biden is a thousand years old. So it's like, how are you the party of progress and change? Are you really the party of progress and change? Are you the party that likes to sell the idea of progress and change? No, it's disgusting. It's disgusting simply because after President Obama,

the Democratic Party was supposed to get, younger, blacker, browner, more diverse when it comes to gender. Like, yes. Like, I am highly upset that we didn't get a woman president. You know, even if it was Hillary Clinton, I don't give a fuck. I just think that that would have, that would have really shown how America was progressing. But boy, that black president scared the shit. Don't think for one second that black president didn't scare the shit out of both sides.

All right? Both sides? Yes. Hell yes. It was like, man, fuck that. Who is the oldest candidates we got? run them. Run them. Run them. Run those all horses, God damn it.

Joe, get Joe to fuck out of there. Okay? Get Joe to fuck out there and get him going. We got to get old Joe going. We need old and white as the standard bearer in America. Yeah. All right. Fuck that. All right. Let me see.

What else did I want to talk about? Yeah, we pay little bills right here. You got another middle row? Okay. All right. We can take a break for a second. Pay some bills. Charlotte, you got your hair coming in, right?

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Yeah. Let's do ask an idiot. I kind of did the deep dive already, huh? Yeah. Taylor, you got any asking idiots? Yeah. Um, you guys ain't want to talk about like T-Mobile going out or Chris Rock with the braids, nothing?

No. Okay. Or the B-Simon? No? Okay. No. All right. Well.

Why don't we do ask an idiot? Okay. So for Ask an Idiot, this goes to Casper Revenge. Casper's Revenge. What's the most disgusting thing you've learned about Hollywood? The most disgusting thing that you've learned about Hollywood. That's interesting, Charlotte. That's a good question.

I mean, honestly, I haven't learned anything disgusting unless you want to call the fact that you just have a bunch of culturally, clueless people in these executive positions, that's pretty disgusting. You know what I mean? But I don't even give a fuck about that anymore because everybody is taking their destiny in their own hands. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I love, I'm on record.

I love what Andrew Schultz does. I love what Amanda Seals does. I love what little Duvall does. I love, you know, seeing people make their own independent films and movies. I love what the read is built with their podcast. Like, there is nothing that you can't create on your motherfucking own. And then guess what happens? these companies want to do JVs,

meaning joint ventures. Okay? And you know what? There's nothing wrong with doing that joint venture. But when you do a joint venture, you're an owner now. You know what I'm saying? You got equity in your shit. You're a boss. You know, you at the table as a CEO and a founder. So I don't, you know, think anything is disgusting about Hollywood other than the fact that they just have a bunch of culturally, clue with people in these boardrooms. I haven't seen all of the stuff.

that YouTube and World Star have been telling me for years. I haven't seen no goat to get sacrificed. I haven't seen anybody eat a baby sandwich. Okay? You know,

I haven't had seen anybody had to bust their asshole open for a roll. You know what I mean? I haven't seen any of that those Illuminati rituals y'all have talked about. Yeah.

I think he said it perfectly, man. Nothing I can nothing I can say to top that. Absolutely. This goes for both of you guys too. for I, Z, the king,

what is your greatest mistake? Ooh, that's an interesting one. What is your greatest mistake? Charlotte, what is your greatest mistake? Career-wise, life-wise? I've made so many of them. I don't know. I don't know which one is my greatest.

I do like that phrasing, though. I like the phrasing of greatest mistakes because I don't like to say, what are my worst mistakes? I like to say greatest mistakes because I really do feel like mistakes make you greater. Yeah. So I think when you make great mistakes, you know,

you become a greater person. You become a greater individual. You know, it just teaches you how to bounce back from certain things. Are you learned from certain mistakes? And it just makes you a better person, you know? So I welcome all my mistakes, all of them. I love, I embrace them, actually. Yeah, it's a really tricky question because, like,

if you accept that good and bad things happen and that they're not necessarily good or bad, they just, this is just life and that's just what this is, what it is. It's what you do about those mistakes. And I'm happy where I am. So all those mistakes led me to this point right here, and I'm happy where I am right here.

So it's hard for me to go, man, I wish I didn't do that because if I didn't do that, maybe I wouldn't be here. Yeah, absolutely. You know, so it's really tough. There's a difference between, oh, we were talking about this. We were breaking this down.

Al, remember we were having that conversation? It was like, it was like, difference between, like, regret and, um, there's another word that's kind of like regret. Like, remorse? Yeah, regret and remorse where it's like, if you're not happy where you are in life,

you have regrets. If you are happy where you are, you have like, maybe, like, remorse or like embarrassment. You're like, ah, I was really embarrassing that I did that. But for whatever reason I got here and I'm really happy here, so I don't have regrets. Does that make sense?

Yeah, I don't have, I'm just confused this whole question. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. I don't have regrets. I do have remorse, meaning, like, I have remorse

just for being successful because so many people from where I'm from aren't. Yeah, you feel guilty. Yeah, so many people that I grew up with, so many people that I love, you know, they're not. So it's like, for me, like, I do have that survival's remorse.

Shit, I got remorse now. over jazz, over jazz fly. You know what I mean? I was listening to Bishop T.D. Jakes. I was watching Bishop T.D. Jakes this weekend, man. And he wasn't even talking about death. And he had this bar that kind of just put me in a better place. Play that clip tale.

I want you to insert this clip. Perhaps we will go no further. Perhaps we will not make the journey. Perhaps we will not go on. Because the secret of mourning is this. Whenever people are weeping, always remember, they think they are weeping for who they lost. But in reality, they are weeping for themselves.

There's a part of mourning that is laced with self-pity. Why could you do this to me? Why did you take her away from me? Why did you let this happen to me? Morning, always it's laced with self-pity. It has a tinge of selfishness. And if you want to pull it out by the root, You have to recognize a part of our weeping is for ourselves and not for who we lost.

Because in many, many cases, who we lost is through with suffering and agony and pain. And we wanted them to stay with us, even if it hurt them. And then they left us. And we are mourning. But basically, he was just saying how when you're mourning over somebody, a lot of it is self-pity with a tinge of selfishness. Because you're saying, why would that person leave me? You know, why, why would that person, I don't know if he said do that to me, but it basically was like, you're making it about yourself. It's making it about you, right?

But the reality is that person is not in pain anymore. You know what I'm saying? The reality is that person is in a better place. You know, whatever hurt that person was experiencing, that person is not feeling that. as far as we know, as far as we know, right? So, yeah, like, you know, so yes, that's that, you have that. You have that, you have that remorse.

Like, you know, especially when something, when somebody is dealing with something that's out of their control. Yeah, I think that makes sense. I think that makes sense. It's like, you still feel remorse. You still feel, like, feel embarrassment over things.

But if you're happy where you are, it's hard for you to feel regret because you know that those events in a weird way led you here. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Rest and peace, jazz.

Her funeral is, um, her service is on her, her going away service is, uh, June 27th. That's actually my daughter's born day. My oldest daughter's born day. Her, her homegoing service is June 27th. She looked at her mother and her father and her sister and her brother. Last week was rough. The boy the weekend was rough.

I didn't, I didn't get any good sleep until Monday night. Monday night and last night I slept well. Friday, I didn't even get up to go to breakfast club. Friday I was like, man, fuck this shit. I canceled everything.

I was supposed to do a one-on-one interview with somebody Friday. I canceled dad. I was supposed to do Aaron Burnett, CNN Friday. I canceled dad. I didn't want to do nothing this weekend. Like I was really, really, really, really, really out of it. And this weekend, I feel a little bit better, you know,

like talking to her mom and talking to her dad, you know, And, you know, of course, they got their ups and they got their downs. But when they feel good, it makes me feel a little bit better. But just what Bishop T.D. Jake said Sunday, it really hit home because, you know, Jasmine was dealing with something that was totally out of her control. And it's nothing you can do about that, you know, when. Not on you.

Like I said last, it's not on you. Like I said last week on the podcast, when your brain is your greatest gift. And it can also be your greatest curse. Yeah. And when that goes out of whack, there ain't no blowing on it like a Nintendo cartridge and getting it back the way it needs to be. Ain't that effect.

So take care of your brains, everybody, man. Maybe that's a good place to wrap this up. Yeah. Invest in your mental goddamn wealth. Rest in peace, Jasmine Waters. RIP. Yeah, that's it, man. All right, brother.

Take us out, man. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. As always. If you listen to this podcast and you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. If you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too.

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