The Brilliant Idiots - Dimples and Plain Cheese

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

In this episode of Brilliant idiots , Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz bounce around a ton of wild, timely, and thought-provoking topics, everything from what it’s like for a comedian to get back on stage, to navigating friendships when politics get… messy. The crew breaks down the latest government shutdown drama, how it hits federal workers, and what it means for healthcare, SNAP benefits, and the everyday people caught in the middle. We also get into the big question: what responsibility do billionaires and corporations actually have in moments like this? We also divie straight into the chaos surrounding the newly released Epstein emails and the political firestorm they’ve kicked up. From online rumors influencing mainstream media to debates over immigration, drug policy, and even whether military crackdowns on cartels cross legal or moral lines, nothing is off limits. We also unpack the outrage over White House renovations, the housing affordability crisis, and the bigger question of what government should actually do for people.  Download Cash App Today: [https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/zt3hy9x9] #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Direct Deposit, Overdraft Coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: ⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots⁠ 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God ⁠Pre Order⁠ The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel ⁠Order Link⁠ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley ⁠Order Link⁠ No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF ⁠Order Link⁠ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God ⁠Order Link⁠ Check out Andrew Schulz ⁠www.theandrewschulz.com⁠ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" ⁠https://blackeffect.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Charlamagne the guy. Andrew Shult. We are the Brilliant Idiot's podcast. Back for another week of Brilliant Idiotness. Do we have any... No, just mid-rose. Just mid-rose. Okay, good.

We on, baby. Heather Kyle Walker. How are you weekend been, man? You're weak, all that good shit. Good, man. What did you do? This week? Anything fun?

I got back up on stage. Ooh. I'm getting up lately, man. How that feels? A little bit. How that feel to get hard again? How that feel to get hard again? Feels good to get hard again.

I'm not going to lie. How that feels good. Feels good. You're hitting them no. You got some shit. Got a couple tings. You got some things? Got a couple of tings.

Some tings. Gotta keep it close to the chest. What is there to talk about? Like what is it? What are you talking about? I mean, after coming off some shit like the life. I think the thing that like, I think the mistake that sometimes creatives make is that they, they go, okay, I need to do something like that.

When I think that this process is just, just start talking and then you'll naturally gravitate towards the next thing you want to talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now is the process of just finding what is it that I want to talk about? Yeah. So, okay, you're trying to figure that out. I'm getting so tired of getting asked about you, bro. Wait, why, what happened?

It's just like, I can't. It's like, I've never, this has never happened before to me in my life. Tell me. I just, why? What the fuck? Ask Andrew, bro. Wait, why, what's it? I did Melissa Ford podcast, Luther Melissa Ford.

Oh, yeah, what's he saying? It wasn't a silly question. Melissa, I thought Melissa did a very good interview. but at what point do people not realize I'm loyal to the soil with my dogs That's what it is I'm going to tell you know It's never happening not Schultz not Duvall

Like it's just no it ain't happening What the fuck you want me to say bro? What was she worried about? The age old question of how can you be Friends with somebody who's supports Trump. It's interesting. You know, a lot of friendships, relationships, family relationships were severed when when people, when Trump came into, you know, the public conversation into politics was voted into office, now twice. A lot of relationships just kind of fell apart.

and Andrew was firmly on that Trump train up until recently. And it's just interesting that it didn't seem to have like any kind of effect on your friendship, you know, especially the fact that he's white and you're black. That's just where we are now. Supports is interesting. Supports is interesting. But, you know, like I always say, you can, like, listen, listen, if you got to, listen, when you voted for somebody, I don't care.

But if you're willing to chat. challenge the person you voted for. That's all I give a fuck about. Here's what, she can't vote in America, right? She's not a citizen. I have no idea. I think she's from Canada, right? She's from Canada, but we don't know if...

Yeah, I really don't know. Maybe she's not. So my feeling on this always is like, if you don't vote, that's your right. But you shouldn't really have an opinion on anybody who voted. You can have an opinion on the world. You can say whatever you want. Yeah. But like, if you didn't make the difficult decision in voting for somebody,

which means you're going to vote for things that you disagree with vehemently because there are other things that you might agree with. Yeah. So for example, like with Kamala, right? Like Kamala and Biden could have like stopped an ethnic cleansing in Gaza for a year.

They had a year to do it. They didn't do it. Am I supposed to go? A lot of people held their nose and voted for her anyway. But am I supposed to look at, I would never look at you, but like I'm I supposed to look at Melissa

if she could vote? And am I supposed to go, so you voted to continue to ethnically cleanse a region? Well, first of all, I don't know she can't vote. I don't know. She's not from America. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess my point is that, like, it's a very easy position to sit in this place where, like,

if you don't vote, you judge the decision and you ascribe the worst of intentions to it. Right? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, because we, we, we, that's all we do. It's like, we look at the worst thing that the opposition does, and then we go, well, that must be what they supported. There's no purity in politics, but, like, like, I supported Barack Obama. I love Barack, but like there's things that I think he did that I would disagree with.

He was a beat drone strikes all day every day. So in my point, there's no purity test in politics, bro. Nothing whatsoever. That's the answer that I would give to you. It's just like voting for a person, there's this binary. Whether you vote for Mumdani, or you vote for Cuomo, whatever it is. It's like, it doesn't mean that you're going to support every single thing that one of those people do. You're making a decision, like, what are the things most important to you?

There are some people that they vote based on abortion. Most people are single as you voted. Exactly. And that's like that's the thing that's most important to them and they might disagree with every other thing. But they got this single issue.

But that's the thing that really matter. That's what it is. So that's what I would say. Like to, you know, to anybody who would be upset about there are certain things. They're like, certain things are really important to me.

And I would hope that like, I don't look at other people and be like, you want to continue ethnically cleansing a place and like America funding it. Like, I wouldn't ascribe that to you, Alex. Like, I don't think that you want that, but you voted for it.

And by, You know what I'm saying? But you know what I mean? What he's saying is true because that is also a single issue that made people not both. But think about that. But think about all of the things. That was a big deal for me. Foreign Wars was a huge deal for me.

I didn't want to just continue funding the murder of people. All of the people who were against Trump, that one single issue, regardless of what Trump may have bought to the White House, kept a lot of them from going to the vote for Vice President Kamalaher. Yeah, that's true. But I believe at the time she was saying she believed in a two-state solution. So that's, to my defense. You say whatever you want. You say whatever you want.

But if you actively doing the thing, wait until I run. She wasn't in power. When I run for something one day, I'm just going to show you all how to do it. I'm just going to say all everything. You know, sell them a dream, bro. Sell him the dream. Oh, stop it. He's a felon.

He can't even run. I can't run, man. I can't. No, I think you can. Oh, yeah, you can't. Fucking Trump is president. What the fuck? He just can't run for president.

Mayor Mouse corner, baby. 10 years. 10 years I'm running for Mayor Mons Corner. But Trump ran his president. He wasn't a felon yet. It could be Mareemones Corner. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you got that easy.

Just off face card. 300 votes. Just on Facebook. Yo, Loke, people don't realize how few votes it takes to win. I've been looking. I'm like, all that take is this many people? Okay, Mammoth's Corner.

Here we come. I'll be fine. Go get you a little $40,000 a year. You know what I'm saying? Cooling. I didn't make my money. I'm good. What's up?

We're out here. What's happy? It's not. Shalemate needs a nap. What is this? Let's check it out. What is this? We haven't done this in a while.

What's up with you, though? How was your week, man? Oh, a week was great. I went on another college visit. Oh. Which one? My daughter's in college visit season. I don't want to say, but I'm going to tell you something, man.

Yeah. I ain't never seen no college like this motherfucker, bro. In a good way, in a bad way? A great way. Tell me. No, because if people are going to know what I'm talking about. I'll tell you off ahead, but let me tell you something. this is a college that whatever you're spending is worth it.

It was to the point where one of the, because we was on the tour, like you do the tours, it was like three, it was like three families. So it was me, my daughter, my wife, another couple in their daughter, and another couple in their daughter. And at some point, man, one of the guys looks around and goes, well, when the fuck do they go to class? Like, that's the progress. That's the progress.

All this shit on campus. That's the problem. Where the fucking classrooms, yo. That's the issue. Like, God damn. But that's the issue. Like, I was thinking, oh, I'm just, I'm sitting there walking around. Like, if I knew that some shit like this existed when I was young, I probably would have wanted to go to college.

Bro, it's, the amount of shit that we had on our campus was crazy. Where'd you go? I went to UC Santa Barbara. But you got to the gym, every sport you could ever imagine, access to whatever you could possibly think all for free. And you wonder why you're spending all this money. Hold on. Give me some examples of access. Just any. Any sport, you could imagine that you could play.

There's like an organized version of it. So from beach volleyball, regular stuff, basketball, tennis, soccer. About the amenities. I mean, what, what is, what could you, like, my school is literally on the beach. Like, you looked at the ocean from the classrooms. Okay, give me more. What would you want? Yeah.

Was there like fencing? Was there? I'm sure there was versions of it. Rowing, yes, I'm sure. Imagine a luxury resort on a beautiful island, and the resort wants to keep you on the island. So it would have all these fine dining restaurants. Yeah, we just had like mess halls and shit.

Yeah, yeah, I got to tell you all. And I've never seen no shit. But this is why it costs $100,000 a year to go to this school. And that's all I kept asking. After about halfway come, like, how much does it cost them? Yeah, yeah. How much does this shit? Yep.

That was like a time shit. They show you all the good shit first. Oh, my God. And it was, I mean, it's amazing. Like, I mean, they give you, like, you pull up and they got, they got the kids' names on Marquise. Yes. That are just visiting. Like, and they, she ain't playing no ball.

She ain't no ball. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Oh, you just, you really give me that. And the cookies. They gave us these cookies at the end. I told the guy, said, man, be honest with you, the cookies might have really done it, bro. I had to, I said, tell me what the fuck you.

Were they recruiting your daughter for this is just you going to visit a school? Just a regular visit. Wow. Tell me where, tell me what, tell me you the fuck you got these chocolate shit cookies. And he told me, and they only sell them by the bulk. And I bought them. Wow. I had to.

What did you think? Incredible, even at the house. Because they come in the fucking cookie dough and you bake them. Oh. I might as well say it. Fuck it. What's the shit called? Otis Spunkin Meyer?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a, that's a, that's a regular cookie. That's like a stuff. I never had a regular cookie. That's Subway. Subway's cookies. Nah, no, not. That's, yeah.

Subway got the oldest Spunker Meyer. Oldest, Subway got the oldest. I used to love Subway cooking. That's why you love them. Yo, Otis. I don't know who the fuck you are. Otis is no joke. The oldest Spunking Meyer is incredible, yo.

And you can order them by the boat and they come in these frozen little cookie shit. I've never had them before, man. And I'm a chocolate chip cookie connoisseau. I ain't never had the oldest. Spunkin Meyer, bro. So y'all been having this shit all the time and never told me? We told you.

Stubway. Nah, nah, nah, fuck with Subway cookies. But Otis Spunkinmire chocolate chunk? Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. Whoa.

Whoa. Whoa is right. Whoa. Can you tell me why you walked off this CNN election special to go to bed? Because he had the ice after eating all these cookies. That's what happened? What happened? Did you notify them you were going early?

Yes, man. Listen, this is the thing. They asked me to do the CNN election special on election night. I really can't believe this became a story. But I'm going to tell you what really pisses me off. This shit says star liberal walks off much hyped CNN election special to go to back. Y'all make up your fucking mind what y'all want me to be. Okay?

My undercover maga are my motherfucking star. No, no, no, no, no. What am I? No, no, no. You know, remember last week, I don't know if I called you where we said on a pod where it's just like, we're the first one's over the hill. We're the first one's on the beach so we get shot. Yeah.

Right? And I was like, you know what? It's a good thing that everybody's coming to these conclusions and it's a good thing for the party and it's a good thing for America. Remember I said? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Fuck all that. Fuck all that? Fuck it. I don't give a fuck. Somebody called the radio station this weekend and it was like, you know, Sean, man? I don't know if it's because you'd be with Andrew. Like, first of all, me and Andrew

been doing this podcast for 13 fucking years. Like, what the fuck are y'all talking about? We've been doing this pod. for 13 years, bro. What the fuck? I'm telling you, people are not used to any nuanced conversation. No, but now everybody's dick riding us.

But hold on with this CNN shit. Now everybody's saying the exact same shit we've been saying for two years. They've never get credit. They roasted me last week for simply saying, I think Democrats have lost this shutdown. Bro. They have no leverage.

And now everybody's saying the exact same thing. Literally, every talking point for the last two years, Every single criticism of the Dems we've had for the last two years is now common knowledge within the Democratic Party. It's common knowledge within the Democratic political pundits. It's the exact same shit we've been saying for two years, which they've been calling me Magafore and you Magafore. They don't know what the fuck I am.

They're a MAGA, I'm liberal, I'm a grifter. All I'm simply saying is common fucking sense. I watched this whole shit last week. Nah, they got to pay us. I'm like, this shit been going on. It's the longest government shutdown in history. I'm like, Republicans have zero reason to budge. They got everything they want in the big, beautiful bill.

Why would they ever make concessions with Democrats? So I'm just like, and I'm looking at all of these federal workers who are calling the radio station, who I'm meeting at the food banks. Imagine being a federal worker. You've never been on no snap or no food aid ever in your life. Now you've got to come down to the food bank to get groceries because you ain't even paid in 40 days. I really think that some people speak from such a position of privilege.

They don't know that 67% of the country lives paycheck to paycheck. And when you miss one check, that goes everything fucking off. Literally not getting paid for 40 days could have a person evicted. You know what I mean, people I know that get eviction notices because the landlords don't give a fuck. They don't care. They don't care about the government shut down. They're like, I got bills to. They don't give a fuck.

The fucking child care. People don't, literally, I know people that have to take their children out of child care. And you know what pisses me off the most? A lot of you motherfuckers that are saying shit, Like, hold the line, hold the line, hold in line. Have you done anything to help these federal workers? Have you done anything to help these, you know, these food banks? Not a lie.

So I was in the position of they should have held out. And literally today I was at the Food Bank for NYC giving out and Brooklyn, downtown Brooklyn, four federal workers that are out. And that alone convinced me, you know what? It was tough. By the way, hold on. Say that again out. You said it was for federal workers.

Federal workers. How long was the line? Bro. We were there from 11 to one nonstop. That convinced me. I was like, oh, okay. I went through the airport and . This weekend. I'm going through the fucking security. One of the T.S. agents throws the plastic bin.

Right? You can just tell us this frustrating to do it. And one of the other TSA agents said something, told me, he was, I don't give a fuck. I'm not getting paid, no way. How the fuck can you not feel for these people? And people think it's over. They still haven't got paid. They still ain't got paid. Now, they are getting their back pay, allegedly.

They're supposed to be getting their back pay. Yeah, but it still has to pass through the House. and Trump has a signer. So technically, we're still in the shutdown. And when I spoke to somebody... And is it going to pass the house? Mostly. Yeah, more likely, yeah.

When I spoke to somebody in the Democratic Party about two weeks ago, they said to me verbatim, they said, pinning a shutdown on any issue around the ACA was a foolish idea. What? Affordable Care Act. Affordable Care Act.

Because, number one, the Republicans got everything they want in the big, beautiful bill, right? And also, you have Republicans who have made whole careers opposing the Affordable Care Act. So why would he all of a sudden flip and do anything in support of it? Like, they always fall in line. If they's, if this fuck Obamacare, it's fuck Obama care. And it's going to be fuck Obamacare until eternity, until they come out with Trump care or whatever. Bless you.

God, damn, what the fuck? I'm getting over it. You need some goddamn affordable care. You got snout all in your fucking mustache. God damn. I'm too like, I got to wash my hands. Somebody's drinking motherfucking sanitized in here, man. That was a COVID-Seed, bro.

No, I'm getting over. I was sick for like two weeks almost. God, but at least you got motherfucking health care. Why are you acting like, this is my fault? It's not. What the fuck was that about? Why are you staying like the fuck? At least you got health care.

What does it got to do with me? I'm saying is, man, it's fucked up that people got to choose between being sick and starving. Yeah, I know. We shouldn't even be in that place in America. America should be the basics should be food, clothing, shelter, health care. That should be the basics for everybody. But sadly, people got to make a choice. And my thing is, if Republicans weren't going to budge and we knew they weren't, why keep the

government shut down and just cause double-triple-to-suffering? I think the reason for it is there are more Republican. constituents using SNAP. And so eventually, if Dems held out long enough, then Republicans have to hear from their constituents and it's like, you know, maybe we are forced to budge and give them something

so we can... You know who Republicans don't give a fuck about? I understand. Their constituents. I understand, but... That's what the devil's is hoping. Because not only not only was it a government shutdown, Trump went and said make sure they don't get their SNAP benefits.

That's just cruel, bro. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, he said what? There are years worth of funding available for the SNAP program, our tax dollars that we have already paid to the federal government to facilitate this program, and the Trump administration deleted this language from the website this morning. They are hiding the fact that not only is there more than enough funding,

to pay these benefits that we have already paid our tax dollars into, but that there was contingency language to ensure that even in the event of a government shutdown, that SNAP would go uninterrupted. The Trump administration and the Republicans supporting him are using food as a political weapon. He made it, oh, let me look it up, let me say the right thing. I don't, I don't, I don't, you know. There's like a fund that, like an emergency fund. Yes.

They have, if a situation like this were to happen where people, they can still pay the SNAP benefits out. And they, Trump was like, nah, we're not going to tap into this fund. Yes, Trump, Supreme Court allowed Trump, the administration to temporarily withhold some snap payments for November. So that's just cruel. Yeah. On top of everything else that's going on to be like, nah, withhold the SNAP payments.

God damn. Like, what the buzz? So it's just like, yo, man, for me to get on the air and say that last week, that's just common sense. I'm speaking for the people, the federal workers. I'm speaking for the people I know not getting the stuff. Okay, so can you break this down for me? So. And then hold on, a week ago, when the Democrats do exactly what I knew they were going to do all along,

now people mad at Democrats, which I think is ridiculous, because Democrats threw a Hail Mary on behalf of the American people. So, so, yeah, that's why. knew that they had no shot in hell at this, but they did it anyway. So that's why I want to break this down. Okay, so this is about passing the Big Beautiful Bill. Yes. Okay, so they're trying to get this Big Beautiful Bill passed. No, it's passed already.

Okay, so then what is this specific boat about? They were trying to get the... Oh, I'm sorry, not the Big Billville. Sorry, the Big Bill's passed already. They were holding out because they wanted the ACA... But this is renewing the budget. Like, so every year that they have to vote on the budget or whatever. They were trying...

What do you mean? Yes. That's what this is about. Yes, yes, yes. So they kept the government shut down because they were trying, they want to get the ACA, the extensions on the ACA subsidies.

Yes. Okay, sorry. Not in the Big Beautiful Bill is passed. But changes in the Big Beautiful Bill is what affected. Triggered these other things. Yeah, the subsidies in the... So what they were trying to do

is hold up, they being, I imagine the Democrats, they were trying to make sure that the ACA subsidies works in. Yeah. That the ACA subsidies works in it. And so what they were doing is holding up the passing of the budget. Yep.

Yes. In order to leverage that change that they want. Yes. Which feels benevolent, right? Because it's like we want to help out these people who are going to see their health care premiums. It's beyond righteous cause. Got it. Because people, people's health care premiums were going to skyrocketing.

Some people were just going to lose their health care altogether. Like, it's a, it was, they were on the right side of history. And then can you explain to me why health care is so impacted by this? Why is the government subsidizing health care in such a way? Haven't they always? Not always, but it's just, it's so expensive. Like, healthcare costs have risen so much that they have to raise premiums for insurance companies to make money.

And regular people can't afford this increase. So the government is subsidizing that increase. So I guess what I'm trying to understand is, like, are insurance companies taking advantage of the fact that the government, with a. I'm sure. Bottomless bank account to subsidize. And if they are doing that,

how can we effectively keep people on health care but attack these insurance insurance companies that are essentially like being greedy? That's what I was talking to one of my... I was talking to one of my homies last week and they were telling me about this procedure

that they got to get. And the procedure without insurance is literally like $150,000 or some shit, right? There is some other shot that they got to get that's in the tens of dollars. I'm like, yo, there's got to be some form of price gouache. There's no way this shit costs this. This is the same thing when it comes to universities for kids.

The idea is if the government is going to back loans, student loans, no matter what, the universities can charge really whatever they want because you need to get a college education if you want to be part of the workforce. And that college education is getting. guaranteed backed by the government. So there is no real incentive to not do it, right? The second somebody might say, and I don't necessarily want this, but like somebody might say, oh, if we just remove this like endless bank account for your degree, for example, you want to get a degree in poetry, that's your right. Yeah. But we're not going to give you $300,000 in student loans to get a

degree in poetry because you might not be able to get a job that's going to be able to pay that back. all the sudden a degree for poetry might come down. There are arguments that will poke holes in this, I'm sure, and there are negative aspects to it as well. But the idea being, if you prop up whatever the cost of something is, greedy people will find a way to charge more for it so that you will pay for it. Simple as that, because you know you will. So there's a part of me here where it's like the insurance companies must be culpable,

and they must understand that these subsidies will go pay these rates, so they must be spiking rates knowing full well that the, the government's going to step in and pay because they don't want to leave their people uninsured. I mean, you're right, though. The insurance companies are co-able. That's why you see motherfucking, you know. Mangione. Exactly.

So, like, that's just the reality of situation. So is there a version? And again, like, I'm ignorance all this stuff. But like, is there a version where, okay, we've passed this. We can get the government workers. Their food, their pay, I think that you make a great point where there's, like, a lot of these, like, privileged rich pricks talking on TikTok and social media. I'm out of here.

That, like, literally don't know a single person that is a government worker that is, working paycheck to paycheck, and they're just like, hold the line, fams, hold the line. It's like, yeah, that's easy for you to say you talking to a fucking phone for a living. You know some of it actually is a job and a family that they rely on that paycheck every single fucking week. Listen, I hate when they go, you know,

we got to make sacrifice. Every struggle required sacrifice, sure. Yeah, you first. You first. You sacrifice. TikTok pundit. I hate that shit so much, yo. And by the way, I understand the logic of it all.

I don't. But also, too, where's the plan? I don't understand the logic. If you're going to shut the whole government down, how about have something in place for your constituent? So here's... You know federal workers are going to be impacted. You know people that don't get snabble going to be impacted. How about have something in place?

So remember that guy that gave that $130 million, even though that was legal. Get that $130 million? Where's that for the people? Yeah. What the fuck? So here's the thing I'm wondering. It's like, why don't you just pass it, right? So these people that work for our government, the people that work in these thankless jobs don't have to suffer and their families don't have to suffer.

Why don't you just pass it? And then... Knowing full well that Republicans also don't want their constituents, as you said, I think more of them are on the Obamacare. Oh, sorry, more of them are SNAP. So more of them are receiving SNAP benefits. I don't know where they are with the Obamacare. But, like, they too are incentivized to make sure that their people have health insurance and that they have food, right? Yeah.

So, like, why don't you, after passing it, then work on a bill that will meet the demands of both parties? It seems like there's going to be a lot of bipartisan support there, no? No, not in this day and age. Really? No. You think the Republicans would starve their own people? Yes.

Interesting. They were just doing it. This is not our grandparents' Republicans. They just did it. Yeah, they just did it. I will say you'll probably see some, well, Republicans have had eight years to come up with their own health care plan

and haven't done it yet. Well, are they just in the pockets of big health care? Yes. But so are death. By the way, both of them are. Let's also talk about this. This is the same lobby. It's like everybody wants to talk about A-PAC all the time.

It's like, yeah, talk about A-PAC, but also talk about these fucking medical lobbies that are doing the same exact thing, taking advantage of the American people. And guess what? All of those lobbies should have came out of pocket. The fucking pharmaceutical lobbyist, the pro-Israel lobbyist, the real estate lobbyist. Oh, damn, y'all want to shut shit down. Y'all got to dig deep and come up with your money for these motherfucking federal workers and these people that don't have, that don't have snap benefits. That's actually a fire thing. That's how you could have kept it open, kept that.

Reposal still wouldn't have budged, go. They wouldn't have budged, but you could have at least made an effort and show that you're looking out for your people. You got to have a plan. Everybody talks about going to war. Where is the fucking war plan? Well, when you hate the billionaires, who's going to pay for it? Oh, hold. You want to talk about that? I'm on the radio Thursday. As soon as I saw seeing this shit going down at the airline, I go, oh, this shit will be over in a couple of days. Because there's always corporate interests over the interests of the people. Yeah, because we don't want to have a bad travel holiday season. We want people spending money.

This is where we get in the black. airlines missing, airlines are going to be fucking losing tens of millions of dollars a day? Oh, oh, yo, I don't know who the fuck they is, but they start calling the powers that be like, all right, y'all got to get this shit fucking back open. And what happened? And they did that over the weekend. Over the fucking, you know, the airlines started acting up on Thursday. They stayed the weekend to get that shit right. And that is interesting. Get the fuck out of here. It's always going to be corporate interests over the interest of the people in America until the people motherfucking stand up?

Or until we just get the money out of politics. It's very simple. Yeah, that ain't happening. Why not? It could, but it ain't. It's going towards it. People are opening their eyes and they're like creating lists for any politicians

that take lobby money. They're not going to vote for it. Well, y'all ain't voting. You're only voting then. No, there's going to be some politicians that run and don't take money from Big Lott. I got to see it to believe it. I'm not saying that it can't happen.

I just got to see it to believe it, y'all. I got to see it to believe it. I really got to see it to believe. But by the way, that means that it's going to end up being a billionaire that motherfucking... Doesn't need the money. That don't need the money. Then you just... Well, then what?

That's the other tricky thing about the billionaire stuff is like, these politicians are making billionaires the bad guys, you know, saying that they got to pay their fair share. When they know damn well that, like, billionaires exist outside of the tax code. So it's like, you're really saying we're going to tax them, we're going to get them to pay their fair share. But, like, you know that the tax code itself doesn't have any. any way to actually tax them. They're making capital gains money. They're not actually making income.

They're taking loans out against their stock, and then they're writing off the interest on the loans, you know, as a loss against whatever money they do make. Like, the tax code didn't plan on there being billionaires. So they don't have a way to, like, fairly taxed. That's funny as shit when you think about it. They're like, somebody might have 60 horses.

You know what I mean? That won't happen. There's no way. God damn. So it's this weird thing where it's like they've become the scapegoats, they've become the bad guys, but there's no actual way where you could tax them the way you want. So you know who you end up taxing? You end up taxing the doctors. You end up taxing the lawyers. You end up taxing all these people. You end up taxing all these people that you don't intend to and you taxed them more and then the billionaires still don't get taxed. But you use them as a boogeyman. You use them as the bad guy. Where it's a like, why don't you communicate to your constituents that the billionaires exist out of the tax code? The tax code is based on taxing income and they don't make income anymore. They've so much money that they don't need income and that you have to find a new way to extract

wealth from them because all you're doing is putting the burden on that tax on the doctors and the lawyers and entertainers, some of us. And this group of people is going to pay more because this group of people that you've been rally against isn't going to change at all. Right? No, that makes sense. You know, the billionaire thing is so interesting me because I don't think billionaires are inherently bad.

I don't believe that whole logic about... A lot of these motherfuckers ain't even billionaires, Charlottom, man. It's net worth. It's like they got a billion dollars on paper. Hard assets and stocks and stuff like that. It's stocks. So, like, the valuation of your company is, you know,

$4 billion and you own 50% of it, so you have $2 billion? But, like, do you have $2 billion? dollars? Like, do you actually have it? I don't know. Like, some of them, yes, because you can get loans to have that. Yeah. No, I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that they don't, but my point is that like, something catastrophic could happen tomorrow and then you have nothing. Whereas like, they can sell their stuff. But someone got to buy it. But you, but you always, you know,

and it's like, who's going to buy a company that's not doing well. When you see them lose a bunch of money, it's usually because, like, they lost a bunch of stock. Like, that's what I'm saying. There are billionaires. There are like the real people who actually. have homes and shit worth billions of dollars, like real estate around the world. Like these families do exist. But what we think of billionaires, a lot of these people that own these, like, stocks that have skyrocketed 200% over the last, like, five years, are they? Yes, they are.

How are you going to tax them? Like, they're not taking that money out from the stock market. But I would say, or, and I feel that a lot of billionaires are, I wouldn't say necessarily bad people, but they're doing. bad things like I don't believe with that I don't believe that so much like a Bezos or like the Walmart billionaires or whatever if you're worth that much that means the company's worth that much that means you can afford to pay your employees more okay you're conflating two things you're right what I was what I was going to say prior was people always say that billionaires have to do bad

things to get to where they are I don't believe that but I do agree that if you have a super multi-billion dollar company pay your motherfucking workers a livable wage A livable. You know what I'm saying? And if you're actively not doing that, I see that. I agree with that. I agree with that. If you're a multi-billion-dollar company, pay your fucking workers a livable wage. But I don't think that people become billionaires. I don't think people become billionaires just because they did people become billionaires because they created something that became a necessity for people. Like, just Steve Jobs, did he not deserve to be a billionaire? We can't stop using these motherfuckers right here. You know what I'm saying? Like, does Elon must not deserve to be a motherfucking? but multi-billionaire? The issue isn't billionaire. Like, billionaire is just like this holding term. It's not about billionaire. It's about there are people that exist outside of the tax code.

And you would rightfully want them to pay their fair share or whatever the fuck it is. Yeah, I think that's part of it. But also the practices of those billionaires. I think it kind of, it's fucked up. Well, well, there's a moral issue. Like, I would imagine if these people are doing things that are illegal, then there would be some sort of justice for it. Now, could they do things, like for example,

it is not illegal to pay somebody minimum wage. You would think if you're the most successful company in the world that you would pay your employees even more, but they're not doing something that is illegal. True. Right? Like, you would think that that is the right thing to do and it's a good thing to do and it's a just thing to do,

but they're not doing a thing that is illegal. Yes. That's what I was it. Whereas, like, we know that there's a lot of mom-and-pop places, that like pay people less than that because they're making tips or whatever the fuck I got. So like technically, that's illegal. But they can't afford to do it.

So what we're looking at is somebody that has like astronomical wealth and we're like, why aren't you treating people a little better? Yeah. And I'm sure those people would be like, motherfucker I gave away $100 million to solve AIDS. Damn. What do you want me to do? You know, like in their mind,

they're like, nobody gives away more money to me. How can these motherfuckers want more than that? And I think we're sitting here, probably going, why don't you give that money to the people who work for you so they can feel like they're making more? I had a woman say that to me, man, and I thought it was so silly. I posted about how, you know, Little Duval provided 35,000 meals in Jacksonville. I posted how Tyler Perry did the 1.4, he gave 1.4 million organizations that, you know, like food banks for people that don't have SNAP benefits.

And I did it like a carousel with, you know, in the 400,000 plus meals I did in New York. and a woman in the comments said why don't you just give us that money in our pockets nobody wants

to go stand in line at a food bank like god damn yeah it's like what the fuck

no that don't even make no sense yeah no I would rather I would rather help provide what a mass

amount of people need as opposed to going around giving people cash because the cash I don't have enough cash I can use that cash to provide more meals and groceries for people than I could going around just actually handing people cash.

If I hand people cash, I might help 10 people. Listen, there's another. Give it to the food bank, you help 100,000. There's another thing where it's like, and again, I don't know, but like, if you pay your employees more, your company is less profitable, which I imagine would affect the valuation of. of your company. Not them companies like Apple. I don't know. Yes, it will.

I think it would too. Amazon? Yeah. I think making less profit. These guys aren't paying, they're not even paying taxes. You know what I'm saying? So if they're not even paying taxes.

He makes you a good point too, which is like if Amazon can make it look like they don't make any money at the end of the year, then maybe profiting isn't important. Again, I don't know. But like I agree with you. Maybe they feel like I can impact the world in a better way if I'm donating

$100 million. But there's also a version where, Like, a lot of people do that shit as a shield. It's like, if you've got billions of dollars, people hate you. So you've got to do some nice shit. Some motherfuckers go, uh, listen, we hate him because he's rich. But he does, you know, provide this for all these people. And he did try to solve the mosquito disease.

Got to be a compassionate capitalist. Would you want to be a billionaire? No, I have no interesting. I got to ask that question recently. Well, I didn't get asked. Somebody introduced me as that, like I was doing an interview. Put it this way. It's not a goal.

Yeah, it's not a goal. It doesn't mean anything to me for me. There's a number where, like, I don't have to work and I can maintain the lifestyle I really like. And, like, that's to me the goal. Numbers have never been my goals, yo. That's good. It's always wanting to do something. Like, I have goals of things that I want to do.

It's never like, I want to be a billionaire. I want to make $100 million. It's never been that. Now, when you get put in certain positions and you start making certain investments and somebody tells you what you could make, you start thinking like, oh, you know what I mean? But it's not like, like, I want to, what's that song? I want to be a billionaire so fucking bad. That's never, that's never been my mindset.

But I did an interview recently and somebody introduced me as a future billionaire. And I said from your mouth to God's is. But then when I thought about it later, I'm like, I would never be a billionaire probably. Yeah, it doesn't. Because I know I would get, I personally, I like seeing multiple people getting money. Yeah. So I wouldn't want to hold. If I got a billion dollars, I want to create like a thousand millionaires in, you know what I mean?

And when it comes to, yeah, and philanthropy, I'd be giving a lot of it away. Like, you know, there's, like, you make, you make sure your kids are good for the future. You know, hopefully their kids can be good off what you, you know, leave for them. But everything else, it's like, share the wealth, bro. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I agree. Now, if you got a product that's just making you billions, it's not like I'm going to be like,

No, no, stop. No, I don't want it. Like, that's just stupid. Yeah. But I would still be just an amazing philanthropist. Like, that shit that fucking Jeff Bezos's wife be doing. And that shit is amazing. What?

X-wife. X-wife. Yeah. Oh, my God. Like, giving hundreds of millions of dollars the HBCU, that's fly. That's crazy. Why is it crazy? Why is it crazy?

No, it's not. It's crazy. Come on. That's crazy. fly. I know. Nothing massage. She built the company with him. She did. She was there from like day one, no bullshit.

And that's what people don't talk about enough. And they should. Yes. A good woman help you build a great company. That's why I had to get rid of her because she was giving too much fucking money away. Well, you can't build a real company when you got some lady trying to give $100 million dollars away every single fucking day. He's like, how am I supposed to build this business? How am I supposed to go to the moon when she's trying to give away the rockets? This girl's trying to give away a rocket.

Every single day I'm trying to go to the moon. moon. I knew it. I know it. I knew it. What? It's true and you know it's true. No, when I know it's true. When I said it, the first thing that pops in your head is misogyny. Me? Yes, but you didn't say nothing. You let the cocktail mix. You know what I'm saying? I do like to mix a cocktail. You let the cocktail mix. I do like to make a little martini. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. Just this. And then once that shit was ready to go, shook that shit up, poured it over the ice, gave it to you. You know what I'm saying.

Got you a little drunk like that girl giving away 100 millions of dollars. Yo, but listen, that's fly, though. It's fly. It is her money. And I hope that she, you know, gets the appreciation she deserves. Well, I do think it's a little different because I don't think people see it as her money. I think they see it as her giving away Jeff's money. I wish I knew her.

What's her name? That's the first part of getting her to recognize she deserves, not calling her Jeff Bezos's wife. And we don't even know her name. I think it's McKinsey. I think it's McKinsey. I think it's McKinsey. Yep, McKinsey, Scott. Boom.

Yo, shout out to you, McKinsey. She married a teacher and then they divorced. No. Yeah. She got remarried? Yeah, and then they divorced. You got half? I don't think he got a half.

Damn. I think he's allowed to teach him one of them HBCUs. Shut the fuck. Yo, do me a favor, man. Hey, do me a favor. Hey, excuse me. South Carolina State. Is that A.B.

Yo, McKinsey, what you doing? Yo, McKinsey. Ticahana State need 20. What's up? South Carolina State, can you take on, my man? South Carolina State need 20. Listen, but did we finish? I even talked, I walked off to CNN,

but I told them I was leaving. Is that where this started? Yes. Holy shit. I told them I was leaving, guys. They knew I was leaving. I was only going to be there for an hour, and then I tagged in Tesla and Figaro,

and I was out. Look at them trying to put. A lot of podcast, bro. Everybody wants to be casual thing. Look at that's a podcast, man. I saw, I saw something that somebody wrote that was so funny. They said that CNN had a relaxed set with, like, arcades and pool tables and stuff, but they was like, nobody ever got up from the chest.

And it's true. Like, who's designing this shit where they got to put the arcades in the back? Like, do I look like I play arcade games? Yeah. This Ben Shapiro looks like he fucking plays arcade games. You guys are all 100 years old talking about politics. Why the fuck you got a cap, car game? calm game in the background.

Now, drinks, I'm all for. Did we y'all sipping on something? I didn't, but drinks, I'm all for. Why didn't you sip on something? I don't know, you know. Sometimes you got to sip. I ain't want to sip. I don't know. I don't know why I didn't sip.

I don't know. Probably because I had to get up in the fucking morning. Yeah. Oh. Discipline, baby, discipline. Shout out the Big Taz, the hood whisperer, though, man. Lute the Taz. What else we got, Alex?

Tiz. You want to pay some bills? Are you one of those media strategy people clicking through slides? scrolling spreadsheets. Yes? Good. This is for you.

Because on Spotify, there's an audience that's different. Locked in. Loyal, invested. They're called fans. Fans don't just listen to music. They feel seen by it, like it belongs to them.

So when your brand shows up on Spotify, that's who you're talking to. And you're right next to artists like me, Lizzo. So, are you ready to talk to fans? Spotify advertising. You're among fans. Show to you got these church announcements Man yeah you know what

I am gonna do a I'm gonna do a show up in Rhode Island This is not until next year March But they just think tickets are on pre-sale right now Promocode is Andrew Maybe they'll be on sale by the time you see it But yeah let me go look up the exact thing There's a Rhode Island comedy festival And um...

I love Rhode Island. Yeah, Rhode Island's cool. When did you go up there? I'll be going to Rhode Island for my daughter's cheerleading competition I go to Rhode Island probably like once a year. March 28th, Providence, Rhode Island, the Providence Performing Arts Center as part of this Rhode Island Comedy Festival. We did not go to,

we did not go to Rhode Island last tour. One of the most underrated food cities in America. Really? Road fucking Island. Because they got all the seafood, right? Underrated food cities. But they also got all the Italians. Hold on.

This is a biscuit spot I like out there. What's the food spot? Hold on. Rhode Island. I shodded them out too. I think I shot at them out here and it was super happy. What's the name of that spot?

It's a biscuit place, bro. Fuck, I can't remember the name of that. Is it Erie Godless? It's a biscuit sandwich shop. Hold on. You should go there when you go. This biscuits are so good. I don't remember the name of it.

Oh, no, it is Erie God. Yeah, erie Godless. Irregardless. Erie Godless, bro. They serve biscuits, bro. They got like all of these. different biscuits sandwich. Oh, yeah, this is definitely the spot.

Irrigalus, 94 Carverness District Province, Rhode Island. Very underrated food place, man. They got these dope-ass African restaurants out there. Yeah, Rhode Island got, I'm telling you, Rhode Island is very slept on when it comes to food. Very. All right, we're going to do it, then.

Salute to Rhode Island. My church announcement, oh, man, what church? A Two-Chains book, The Voice in My Head is God, go pre-order that. Arsenio Hall book called Arsenio. that. Just a Larry's book. Tell death do we parent. Go pre-order that.

Please, all courtesy of Black Privilege, publishing Simon & Schuster. Thank you. Also, Sharon McKissack book, man. The Black Family Who Built America, that's available everywhere you buy books now, too. What else we got, Alex? Ooh, the emails have been released. Click on this. Bro, this shit is damning.

House Democrats release alleged Jeffrey Epstein emails that referenced President Donald Trump. Can't lie. This is the first time in a long time. Jeffrey Epstein reportedly called Trump, the dog that hasn't barked. What did that mean?

I don't know. You don't come? What does that mean? I thought the allegation was that Trump knew about him. Here's the wild thing. There's a, I got to go get it. Well, he said in 2011, in the email Epstein went on to state

that an alleged victim spent hours at my house with him he has never once been mentioned. What does that fucking mean? I don't, I don't, give me some cliff notes, not from Shade Room. Excuse me Shade Room, but give me, pull up something I can read what the fuck is going on quickly.

But I gotta say, this has been a great couple of weeks for Democrats. Let's see what they do with it. Because don't think that it's a coincidence that soon as they agree to vote for the shut the government to be reopened this epitone email drops don't think it's a fucking coincidence

it's all redacted though why would they be sending emails about this shit sometimes you got no no I don't think the emails about this but I think that like there was an email I think there was sent in 2014 where like Epstein's just saying all the people that are going to be there and I believe in 2009 if I'm not mistaken he was convicted of

the sex charge with the minor. Right? They just said the Trump administration just held a situation room meeting. U.S. lawmakers that released 22,000 pages of documents from Jeffrey Epstein's state, including something that referenced Donald Trump. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee

released three small, free email exchanges before Republicans released a much bigger... What is that, trance? Trance state. What's a trance say? What's the trunks? What's the trunks? It's like a bunch. What's that's the shit between

your ass and your fucking... Mm-hmm. What is that? Is that like another name for a gooch? No. Tranche is just like, I think, a bunch of emails. One of the three exchanges released by Democrats is between Epstein,

a convicted sex offender who died in 2019 and his associate, Jolaine Maxwell. An email from Epstein to Maxwell in April 2011 reads, I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump. Victim spent hours at my house with him. The White House says the unnamed victim

referenced is Virginia. Whofrey. Who free? Who free, who repeatedly said, President Trump was not involved in any wrongdoing whatsoever. She killed herself recently. Ooh. The name Virginia also appears in an unredacted version of the email released in the wider

gooch. Democrats say the emails strike a blow against the White House Epstein cover-up while Trump says the Democrats are deflecting from how badly they've done on the government shutdown. Two things can be true, guys. Right? Two things can be true. No, this is not good.

The question is, does the American, do the American people, and I can't believe we're having this conversation. Do the American people still have the appetite for Epstein? I could not fucking believe it. There was that famous interview or something like that where Trump was like, you guys still care about Epstein? And like, we were like, yeah, we all care about Epstein. This is the thing that you guys said that you were going to expose fucking finally. And I mean, I haven't heard a peep about Epstein. This thing just gets dropped. I don't even know if they moved to actually do it. And here is my theory as to why. Talk to me. Here's an email. in one of the gooches.

Doesn't look like you're prioritizing your schedule very effectively. There's somebody I think texting or emailing Epstein. Scheduled very effectively. How are we going to manage all of this and that? This is Ungo Week. So the boss will be in town too.

I'll be here all week. You may get sick of me. Just sat down on the train so it can talk freely. You're setting down with a trans? Yeah. So then here's something. That was a response to this. Girls, question mark.

Careful. I will renew an old habit. This week, Teal, Summers, Bill Burns, Gordon Brown, Jaglins, who's the Council of Europe and Noble Chairman, Mongolia President, Hardee, Puri, India, Boris, Gates, Jabor, Sultan, Dubai, I guess, Kosselin, Harvard, Leon Black, Woody, you are a welcome guess at any. Also, if you think there are interesting people in town, everyone here for Climate Summit, Clinton's Security Council, holy shit, I'm on something for the next 30 minutes. I don't know if he's saying all those people he's interacting with

or if they will be in town and that person can do it. But to me, it's like if he's interacting with those people and this is happening in 2014 when he's already a convicted pedophile, why are you still engaging with somebody who's convicted in that? But I felt like that. This is like a who's who list of the most powerful people in the world. I felt like that. I think we talked about that on Brion Nis before.

Because he got competing in 2009, right? Yeah, I think so. That's what I'm saying? So, like, why was anybody dealing with him after 2009? Well, yeah, why do you have an office in Harvard after O'9? That's what I'm saying? Like, the shit never made any sense to me. You asked a great question, do people still have an appetite for Epstein?

It's interesting, right? Because we knew I said Democrats should never stop talking about Epstein, but the zone got flooded. So crazy. Son, the song got flooded. Talk to me, because I have theories on this. It just got flooded. Like, it got flooded with, you know, I mean, the government. and shutdown definitely, definitely flooded the zone.

You know, 40 days of people not getting no paychecks, the snap benefits. Like, it was a lot of other things. Also, what is... The ice rate? Yeah. What is the discussion online, though? Let's just be honest. What is the online discussion?

It doesn't mean it's the mainstream discussion. Mainstream discussion is a little bit different. It's getting there. It's being pulled in the direction. But what is... I don't know. What is... The discussion online is right wing.

It's the Jews, the Jews, the Jews. You know, Dave Portnoy's doing a fucking pizza review and some... guy is yelling some shit at him. Like, it's, and then the left wing is Israel, Israel. So it's like they're almost touching at the tip right here. That's the horseshoe theory people talking about. But that is what is dominating the online discord. Really?

Jews and Israel online. Mainstream, I mean, like the biggest podcasts are like the number of podcasts in the world right now are all people who are going to specifically be talking harping on those things. Like Candace, Tucker, like that is the online discussion. and it is moved away from Epstein. Epstein was a majority online discussion. Yes, people in the mainstream would talk about a little bit,

but it wasn't as active as like... It was for a while. Yes, even mainstream, it was for a while. When he killed himself, yeah. No, no, no, I'm talking about this year. Oh, yeah. Like, it definitely was for a while, especially because everybody was like,

why aren't they releasing the problem? When Cash Patel changed his tune on Rogan, the mainstream picked it up, but I think they picked it up as a way to get a win on Trump, right? It's like, yo, you ran on exposing this and Ray in the swamp. Now it looks like you're covering it up.

So, but again, to me, that's an online discussion. We're definitely covering it. So it's like, for me, I'm looking at the online discussion and seems like the obsession right now is either with Jews or Israel online. And I'm curious if that has, if there is room there for Epstein, If they can tie Epstein to Israel, 100% there's room.

You didn't, yo, you ain't see this shit? I know there was the... Hold, I was like, who the fuck? You know what I'm talking about? He had the spy staying at his house? What the fuck, yo? Who was this guy, yo? Yeah, so he had the Israeli spy who was working under Ahu, Barak, staying at his house.

Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein helped Israel sell a surveillance state to like an African nation, right? Yeah, what is this shit? Cote d'Ivoire. Leaked email, showed the details behind talks, but... between Cote DeVar and Israel, shepherded by E. Hud, Barack, and Jeffrey Epstein? Who the fuck was this guy, yo? Epstein?

Yeah. So he was the ultimate facilitator. That's what I think it is. It's like this guy knew all the richest and wealthiest people. And then the rich and wealthy want to do business with other rich and wealthy. With this type of shit, bro? Well, that's... You don't let your fucking ecstasy deal of fucking help Israel sell a surveillance video to Cote the VAR.

If you're somebody that worked in defense, right? And when you were in government, and now you're out of government, what's your expertise? What's you going to do for a living? You're not going to work in insurance. You're going to work in defense. You can go sell that bitch to other countries that need it. Right? So who do you do to get connected to those people?

Oh, this financier that for whatever reason has all these connections. I don't know. But it is very damning to look at this thing and be like, why is there a known spy staying at your house and why are you coordinating deals on behalf of a foreign government? Now, what the defense would probably say is, why can't he connect people? Why can't he facilitate things for friends? Are you allowed to have friends in other countries and allowed to do things on their behalf? Is that illegal?

Does that mean that you're also a spite? That's what they would say. But this is the type of stuff that's coming out, and this is the question that people will have. Will they be interested in this thing? I personally think they should. I would like some fucking justice for these girls. But the internet seems to be so singularly obsessed with one fucking conversation. right and left, they just frame it a little differently.

The right frames it is Israel. Sorry, the right frame left frames is Israel, the right frames is Jews. But until they are able to move off of that, like the left pretends to care about, like the mainstream left talks about ICE. The mainstream right talks about immigration, right? So it's like the mainstream media talks about-

It's always a versus. Right? It's like it's two sides of the same coin, but they're not getting at what the online conversation is. And I'm sure that they're a little concerned to have that online conversation because that shit is radioactive. I think most of these conversations start online, though. Well, they do. And it takes time for the mainstream to be able to access what's going on there because they've got to look through like 40 different lenses. Like, should we amplify this? Can't you avoid this?

No, no, I think that's all they do now. Yeah. I don't think nothing, like everything literally starts on social media for the most part. You can be watching television and you'll see a tweet pop up. Yeah. Such and such just tweeted this or such and such just posted this on TikTok. Like everything is reactionary to social media, which is dangerous because that's where a lot of the bots live. That's where it's so easy to manipulate conversation.

It's so easy to get different things trending and talked about. Next thing, you know, main screen is taking it and validating it in some way just by even having a conversation about it. This is what we were saying about the Riyadh Comedy Festival, right? Which is like for a week, everybody was talking about it, literally two weeks ago by nothing. now Mr. Bees is building a water park out there, not a single peep about it. Not just Mr. Beast, they got the fucking women's basketball league. Oh, yeah, yeah.

So it's just like... No, no, stay that. Let's stay here for us. You want to talk about the women's basketball league? No, I want to talk about people's fake outrage over shit. Well, this is to what you were saying. It's like, and this is the concern. With mainstream media, the concern is that it can all be manipulated

by the sponsors of the show or the people who own the mainstream media platforms, right? So if like, you're the pharmaceutical industry and you're sponsoring the show, you're not going to be making any jokes about pharmaceutical companies and you're not going to be any jokes about, you know, getting people addicted to opioids, right? You're going to be quiet about that. They can put that leverage on. Or if you own the company and you have certain, you know, allegiances, you're going to make sure that those allegiances are taken care of, right? If you own the media company, right? But online, you can also fake the news through bots. You can also fake it through astroturfing, through fake comments,

and you can make something feel bigger than it is. You can make it feel like it's an actual real story, when in reality, it's nothing and nobody actually cares. Erica, I want to raise my three beautiful children in. Adelina, Raulul, and Joaquin. That's Tanya? Stand up. Tanya got a podcast?

No, no, that was just, yeah. But one thing that's a little bit strange is that, like you just said, online, one side's talking about Israel, one side's talking about Jews. that conversation is so loud. Why isn't mainstream media talking about? Well, they are. They are.

Jews in Israel? Yes. I feel like there. Oh, man, why are you? Yes, on CNN, every night is a conversation by their activism. They're reacting to it, right? So they're reacting to the online conversation.

They're reacting to Nick Fuentes on Tucker, right? Like, they're reacting. I saw that all last week. They're reacting to Candice. Like, they're reacting to the online conversation. Right? But these things start and exist. online and now the mainstream media apparatus is kind of like a reaction channel.

It's fascinating to see. That's a perfect, you know, that is a perfect example. Like all of these mainstream networks are like reaction channels, literally. Literally. I don't know any news that starts on the news anymore. And they try to frame stories that like that they would rather talk about, you know, for example, like they would rather, the right would rather, the right, the mainstream right or the neocons or whatever they are. Like, they would rather the issue be about immigration.

So they frame everything through immigration. This is so bad. Immigration is bad. And listen, we have had horrible immigration policies. I'm not saying that there isn't justification to criticize for sure. But they need, they would try to frame everything. They want to frame the housing crisis through immigration, right? Because they don't want to just be like, it's the Jews, right?

So they're like, we can't let that happen. And then the left does the exact same thing. They're like, oh, look what they're doing immigrants. Look what ICE is doing. This is, that's mainstream. But the online conversation. It ain't about that, really. A little on the left with ice, but mostly what I'm seeing is...

Well, see, I thought would I be online, that's funny how algorithms work. When I'm online, all I see is ice raids. All I see is people capturing ice raids and showing what ice is doing in all of these different cities all across. Yeah, I think ice exists on the left. I think ice exists as a talking point. No, no, no, meaning like it exists as a talking point and a leverage point against Trump. Like it is one of those things that if you're trying to show like how dehumanizing Trump is, you go look what his administration is doing. That's like the shit they'd be doing. It's crazy. It'd be pepper spraying kids. Like the shit, I've seen them. You saw the guy that caught a seizure? No, he was holding his infant in his hand. He's holding his infant. I'm like, what is so? Like, bro, it can't be that serious. So this is, so this is, listen, it's obviously horrific and fucked up when you see it. What I believe the administration.

is, and it's not just through ice, it's also through, like, blowing up the boats from Venezuela. That shit is crazy. His little battleship game that he's been playing. That shit is. Yo, what Latino hurt that, nigga, yo? Son. I'm serious. I guess so. We gotta start asking some other questions, yo. What Latino hurt Trump, yo?

God damn. So what I think the strategy of the administration is essentially we have to make it look too dangerous. to even try to come here.

So, for example, in my opinion, they're actually not trying to make ice look humane. They actually, when people on the left are posting these videos of how inhumane ice is, I think it's actually helping the right-wing goal. You know who said that before? I thought the same thing. And I thought that's why they're giving more funding

and increasing the size of ice because they're going to have so much turnover by the ICE agents, what they have to go through and they're going to leave. You know who said that before? our resident Jewish Asian Chris said that. Yeah. Way, I'm talking about before Trump even got elected, he was like, it's going to be a show.

He was like, it's going to be a show that keeps people from wanting to come over here. And what they're basically trying to do is go, look how horrible your life is going to be if you come here illegally. So in a way, when people on the left are like showcasing how horrendous this is and they're posting these videos and like, look how inhumane ICE is, they're doing the media amplification for the Trump administration. The Trump administration is not going, hey, let's be really delicate and polite. They're like, now, we want to let you know you're not welcome here. And it actually is working, right? I think they said, like, illegal border crossings are down to, I mean, we don't know. Like, we don't know because people don't raise their hands when they show up.

But, like, they're much less. And I would imagine with the drug cartels thing, it's like, if you keep blowing up the ship, at a certain point, the drug cartels either go, we can't risk this in terms of the drugs getting caught because it costs too much money. And then the drivers of the boats go, I'm not getting in the boat. They fucking blow up every single boat. Yeah, but you got to actually blow up drug cartels.

Yes. They're blowing up fucking fishermen boats. Well, that is, uh, that is not true. There's no way. That's what they said. Those boats aren't making it to America. So it's like, if you're going to attack drugs coming into America, attack boats that are actually bringing drugs.

Bringing drugs. Bringing drugs. Like maybe they're bringing drugs to, other places in Latin America, but from where they're leaving, those boats can't make it to America. It don't even make no sense. Well, they're basically, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's what I'm saying. It's like, it don't make no sense. Do we know that for a fact? Yes, yes. That those boats cannot get, but do we know that those, I would imagine. Maybe refuel on the way or some. This is what I would imagine. Well, they've been debating,

now this, they've been debating on mainstream news and they've been showing the videos. Yeah. It's like, it's, it's, it's, it's kind of, it is kind of pointless what they're doing. And Pete, Hex-Dev can't show any real example of what it is that they're doing. The reasoning for it. What I would say is that those boats, I imagine, are going from, like, a main place that has all the drugs, and then they disseminate them to a bunch of different places, and then some of those drugs are eventually going to make it to America, make it to other places too. So maybe this is, and again, it looks like the administration's goal is deterrence.

So maybe what they're trying to do is we're going to get it at the source. The second, the drugs leave the shores of the... place, we're blown it up. So don't even try to get drugs over here. I don't think that's like look at this. Like look at this headline from two days ago. They want to just control Venezuela and get to the oil. Like no, that's a good point. That's what they want. That could be the, it could be regime. This in New York Times, U.S. military kills six and strikes on suspected drug boats. This is an, you're just killing suspected drug boats? This is an interesting argument. Like, could they be trying to provoke

Venezuela into acting back so that they could go in there and just effectively make the regime change happen? I don't know enough to even be saying shit about it. I feel like either that or just framed them as look at this bad country, they keep sending

drugs that we have to stop. But there's no proof that is drugs on these boats. Because they got blown up. Yeah. But you can't do that. But here's the thing. Sure, you do whatever. No, no, no. I will be honest. 76 people already. I will be honest, though, if people are bringing fentanyl into the country, right? We're not talking about fun drugs. Like, if they were bringing

like weed into the country, you're like, yo, what the fuck is going on here? If you're bringing fentanyl into the country and America blows up the boat, like, I don't feel that crazy about it. Yes, but it's not coming from Venezuela. Ethanol's coming from China, which goes through Mexico. All right, so then if the boats are

coming from Mexico with the fentanyl. Then they would have a better argument. But they're really blowing up Coke. So you're saying for a fact that it is known that there's no fence in all these boats and they're so blown. I'm out to read it to you. I'm out to read it to you. None of us can say for a fact because they blow up the boats.

Listen, I'm going to read it to you. The U.S. military killed six people on Sunday and two more strikes on boats suspected of smuggling drugs in the eastern Pacific Ocean. Defense Secretary Pete Hexef announced on Monday. The latest strikes raised the death toll in the campaign, the 76 people in 19 attacks in the Pacific and the Caribbean Sea since early December. In a post on social media, Mr. Hexstf cited intelligence and included two short video clips of the bombings of two separate boats that he said were traveling along a known narco-trafficking transit

route in the eastern Pacific. One of the boats appeared to be at full stop with two visible passengers and possibly with an outboard motor raised out of the water. The other was moving at high speed. But in neither case, and we've heard this a million times, did Mr. Hex-F provide evidence for his claim that the three men aboard each of the two boats were smuggling narcotics? He said the attacks took place in international waters. every time one of this shit happens,

they never provide evidence. Okay, but they also haven't provided evidence that... F. Dean killed himself? No, they haven't provided evidence that there was no drugs on the boats either. Yeah, come on, sharks. Like, that's not enough reason to attack them. But let me tell you why people say they're illegal.

They say a wide range of specialists in laws governing the use of force have denounced the killings as illegal because the U.S. military is not allowed to intentionally talk targets civilians who pose no threat of imminent violence, even those suspected of being criminals. The Trump administration says the strikes are lawful because President Trump has determined that the United States is in a formal armed conflict with the cartels. You just out there fishing. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? And they just say, nah, that's a drug boat. Do y'all really believe that they're just blown up fishermen in Venezuela? I think it's possible. Come on, y'all. Yes. This is where you lose the plot. This won't be the first time that the Trump administration has not measured twice to cut once.

Yeah, but this is the same guy was using signal. Yeah, but this is where you lose the plot, man. Like, this is what's going to happen. What is the thing? To your point. It's like getting upset at Trump from renovating the White House. Like, there's all these people who've never even been in the fucking White House. But listen, to your point, we can't say that they're not either, though.

I think it would be in the best interests of Hegseth and the administration to prove that they're spent at all. That's it. That would be a very smart thing to do 100%. That's a lawful, constitutional way of point. It's not lawful or constitution. It's definitely lawful because it says it's illegal. If what you're doing is right now being illegal. What I'm saying is that, yeah, it's illegal.

Like, just because they tell us doesn't make it lawful. Like if you shoot. No, they have to. You're both saying this. Yeah, lawfully, they have to do it. They have to provide evidence. No, no, before. The lawful way it would do it before.

There's no way that you can do that before. They're just shooting them with drones in the sky. But they're saying that you're not. not even supposed to be doing that because these people don't pose any imminent threat. They're just, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but that's debatable because it's like if you're bringing fentanyl to the to the country, it's like that is an imminent. Do you just blow up drug dealers, though?

I'm not saying that I'm not, arresting, I would like some due process. That's what I'm saying. No, this new process shit is crazy. It's like what is, that's the other thing. It's like if you know that somebody is bringing death to your country, you have to give them due process. Like, should we have due process, Pearl Harbor? Like, do we go, okay, guys, land the plane so we could,

give you a nice little court date and we can figure out why you were trying to fly planes into Pearl Harbor? No, you shoot the fucking planes out of this guy once you say they're not landing. That's an imminent threat that you know is coming to attack you. Right. That's not a guy in the and I'm listening. Once again, I don't, this is why these conversations get tricky because you're like, if they are smuggling drugs, you know, you're out of here, bang. You know, it's not like you're defending it, but I don't think you should kill them. Why do you? You don't have the death penalty for drug dealers here? Why would we have the death penalty for drug dealers? Because they're not

from here. Great point out. Why? You just say fucking because they're not from you? Yeah. That's crazy. You're going to bring, you're going to bring death to our country and think that you're going to not die for that? So, you're not bringing death, you're bringing drugs. Oh, he's just being, okay. Nah. I don't even, if

when that bike starts going downhill. And he, Pete, hey, yo, Schultz is coming down here. Listen, in Kiffield, South Carolina, when I was growing up, Daddy had a cousin, okay, named REL. Rell was, like, kind of legally blind, but still with driving shit, and you could hear his truck coming down the road. Nobody tried to stop REL from driving.

He's like, everybody get out the fucking. Y'all, what? That's, like, show. When these shows gets like, just let go, all right, go. If somebody's bringing destruction to your country, you don't think that... No, you can't say it like that. This is America. You got to be specific.

So we were supposed to down the plane. Plimedia's destruction. Gonerese destruction. If there was bitches bringing committee over here, you got to shoot them before they, like... You got to blow up that boat too. You've got to blow up that boat A quote full of chlamydia? No. A boat full of clemity. You're going to let that land on the shores.

You're going to bring them into the fucking courthouse and ask them? No. There's something else going on that we're not privy to. How did you look? There's something going on that we're not privy to. I'm going to listen to the experts, okay? And I am always leery of people who just don't want to show evidence. No. Because my thing is this.

If you ain't doing shit wrong, just show me. Exactly. It ain't that right. It ain't rocket science, y'all. If you're not doing anything wrong, then just show me you're not doing anything wrong. It's regime change in oil. It's just funny to me that, like, there are people that were happy Charlie Kirk got shot because they disagreed on opinions and they're fighting for due process for people who are driving fentanyl into the fucking country. Like, what the fuck do we live in?

Why do we have more humanity for people who are actually profiting off of killing Americans? But you shouldn't be. like those people. What do I got to do? Don't become what you hate. What do you mean? I hate people trying to kill Americans. You hate people. Trying to kill Americans. So if you're trying to kill Charlie Kirk or if you're trying to bring fentanyl in here, I hate both of y'all. Yeah, but you don't know if they're trying to bring fentanyl. If they were trying to bring coke, I would celebrate them. Well, here's the thing. I don't think. I don't think Charlie Kirk should have been killed for, you know, his rhetoric.

And I don't think that the people in these boats should be killed if they are illegally or not, if they're smuggling drugs, right? But here's the thing. The only difference is, and I was about to say, the only difference is one person committed a crime. Both of these people are allegedly committing crimes.

If we believe the specialist, both, they're all crimes. This stuff is not supposed to happen. So what is the punishment for somebody trying to bring fentanyl? into the country. I would think you just run down on them and fucking arrest them. Don't they got with the, what's the shit in the water? Don't they have a police water? Water police. Coast Guard. Coast Guard. Yeah. I would think. I don't know. I don't, I mean, I would put him, we got to put them in jail here. You lock them up. So we got to use taxpayer dollars and put

them in jail here because they're trying to kill America. By the way, if you want to know what the drugs are coming from? Yeah. Say again. Wouldn't you want to know what the drugs are coming from? We know. We don't know the drugs on the boat. I think we know. I think we know. I think we I don't think they know, bro. That's the whole point. That's why people are upset. Now, we got to show how we know, but maybe the problem. That's all we're saying, show.

God damn. That's all we're always saying. We can't give away our intelligence. Thank you for coming. Yo, we can't give away our intelligence. It's on Signal. I guarantee you on P. Yeah, you probably changed the WhatsApp by now.

He probably on WhatsApp by now. Just go to Pete Signal or WhatsApp and you'll know exactly what's going on. I'm telling you, man. Just let him play battleship. No. We don't want to play battles. The president of the United States of America should be able to play battleship if he wants.

Shut up. Shout out to Chris Jenna. Shout out to Chris Jenna, 70 years old. Click on this picture, man. Yeah. Click on Chris J. I thought this was Kim. Yeah.

No, whoever, whoever, whoever, whoever's doing her thing? Yo, how come the Kardashians don't get Illuminati rumors, though? Because they pipes for it. They know how they got it. Like, you mean to tell me that Chris? Jenna can look like, yo, Chris Jenna looked like she has been bathing in baby blood. But here's the thing.

They did the thing that we accused the Illuminati of. What? Took Dick to be famous. Yeah, but that was in the beginning stages. What I'm saying is, but they've been famous since the beginning stages. Like, if you're part of the Illuminati, Charlemagne, they try to give gay rumors

and say that you took Dick to be part of the Illuminae, right? Yeah. Okay. We know that they did that. There's no rumor. There's a video that we watch. That was the ginning stages. I know. What I'm trying to say is that she got her King magazine and a reality show.

That's where it starts. But when you start aging backwards, when you start looking 30 at 70. Yeah, I mean, she looks fantastic. That's when you start putting the pieces of the baby on the pizza. Yo, with trying to tell you, there's some other shit going on, you. With all due respect. Can we just with all due respect for a second right here? Just with all due respect.

I got it. What do you think it looks like down there? I don't want to have it. With all due expect. I don't want to have it. It's with all due respect. I've never even thought about it. It's with if we were to have it with all due respect.

They have rejuvenation down there. I know. There's a world where it looks. There's a world. where it looks, it looks like a bunch of Epstein emails came through. Okay, that's stupid. All right. Gooch?

What? What? I mean, listen, I don't know, bro, because y'all don't want to deal with the reality of the situation. Who is y'all? Y'all. Because whatever's down there made Bruce running 100 yard dash to another gender. Or he loved it so much he wanted one for him. Damn.

I would dab you up, but you fucking put snout all over. God, damn. Chris. Chris Jenner. That just looks so good. I want one. That's crazy. That's what happens when you look at the bright side of things.

I'm always so negative. Now, you got to look at the bright side. If you look at things with some optimism. Optimism. Look at the fucking pussy is half fucked. Wait a minute. I don't really know where you're going with it, man. I feel like we're back in the Venezuela discussion.

But you're right. The pussy, with all due respect. No matter was set on the pot as long as you're right. Chris's is so fire. That's a great point. It made Bruce want one. That's great. We always talk about the influence of Kim.

Nobody's more influential than Chris. It's a matriarch. She turned her husband into her wife. That's the matriarch. Her vagina is so fantastic. That literally the greatest male athlete in the world in one point of time.

Respectfully. Respectfully, I want to say this respectfully. When I think about what Andrew is saying just from a scientific perspective and also from a respect

perspective. Yeah, scientific respectful perspective. I think about what Andrew is saying if there was some rejuvenation, right? Mm-hmm. Then it got to look brand new. If you are bruised,

you're looking at it like, oh, I can go get one of those made too. Yeah. Damn. It's possible. Hope. Hope. Damn.

She was selling Hope, man. Bruce got him a little Barack Obama. Yeah. What? Hope. Oh, I get what you're saying. I see what he's doing. It don't matter.

We just pye. What do you think? I was saying? He got the dark lips? Speaking of new renovation. Say it. What else we got? What else we got?

Yeah, we can talk about renaos. If there's one thing you were just going to let Trump do and not complain about it, is it not just a real estate renovation? I know we have to be angry at every single thing Trump does. Like, I know that's people's identity. I think the real estate renovation bothers people for a couple of reasons. When you have people not receiving SNAP benefits, when you have federal workers not working,

but you're watching him throw these lavish parties, and, you know, do renovations for $230 million. But the government's not paying for this money. Give Argentina $20 billion. Allegedly, yeah, give Argentina $20 billion. I agree with you. The timing is crazy. That's what I'm saying.

I agree with time with it. Okay, but. Like, why would you believe that he's spending his own money for you? Remove, it's not his own. I think it was like he got donors or whatever like that. But it doesn't matter. The point that I'm trying to say is like remove timing, just the act. I know there are people, it's their whole identity.

No matter what he does, they have to say it's the worst thing in the world. I get it. you can make a lot of money doing that. I get it. I understand. I get what you saying. I understand. There's an online persona

that people are, is very profitable and that's what they have to do for the next three years or whatever. I get it. If there was one job, even if you hate Trump, if there's one drop

that you could just go, you know what? I'm not going to be outraged about this thing that he's doing as president. One job. Not negotiating peace. Not negotiating a big beautiful bill.

Not negotiating or blowing up fucking battleship. Not any of that. Just if there was one. thing that you go, you know what, okay, I think Trump will be able to do this. Would it not be renovating a piece of real estate? No, because it's not renovating. It's demolishing. And I think people will love... Not demolishing. One thing, they took, they took, they took, they took, they took, they took, they took the whole, no, did you see the pictures? Yes. It's a little section. Bro, when they

pick the foot, what is he talking about? They're adding, they're adding a whole wing. He said he said he wasn't. He said he wasn't. By the way, this is the algorithm. He don't know. He might be serious. No, I'm dead serious. Bro, look at it. They demolish the whole shit. They're using the pieces of the ships. They're recycling the ships. They're recycling the battleships.

I think that people look at cert. They look at the White House is sacred. And they don't want to see that happen. Well, the motherfuckers that work at the White House that I've spoken to are like, that shit is ass. It needs to be upgraded. When we ever, we throw a dinner and event, we got to put tents outside because there's no room inside to do these things. You need more space. I don't.

Listen, I don't fucking know. I just know people don't like to see sacred institutions torn down. But I don't even know if it's about the rent. I don't think it's about the demolishing as much as this about where the money is. This is, this is the point that I'm trying to make. It's like. People want to make sure that's not taxpayer dollars. I get it.

I get it. And once again, he won't show evidence and proof that it's not taxpayer dollars. But this is, this is my issue with people. It's like when you cry wolf about every single thing, it removes the sting, the value, the authenticity of your legitimate criticisms. When you cry about the east wing, how many of y'all even knew there was an east wing to the white? I thought it was the west wing or east wing? I thought that the White House had just the White House.

I didn't know there was wings. We stayed right across the street from it. I didn't even know there was wings. So the point is when people make this, yeah, that's the one that he's renovating. So when people get up in arms about this in the same way that they're up in arms about the EPSC and emails, which is a legitimate criticism, a legitimate concern,

it actually takes away a little bit of, to me, like, I go, do you even care about that? Or do you just care about hating on this guy? But do we know why? But do we know why people are upset? Because it's him. If he says, no, no, no, no, no. No, no.

You're going to be like my favorite colors, right? It's the actual technical reason. people. Combination of things. Okay. Some people are upset that, hey, you're destroying the White House without getting permission to destroy the White House. Some people are saying you're using taxpayer dollars.

And others are saying that money was donated to him by a lot of people. And what are these people going to get out of donating the money, like pay for play type of situations? And the government shut down and you're spending money for a reputation. Well, yes. Alex isn't wrong, but let's be more technical with it. Like I said before, the historic preservation of it. Right? Like the East Wing was built in phases since 1902 with major expansions in 1942.

People feel like it's part of the historic White House complex. Critics say this isn't just a renovation, but a dramatic alteration of a national symbol raising the question, is this our building, are just the presidents? Now, this is why people are really upset. The lack of transparency in oversight. Yo, can I just tell you something? No, no, no, no. This is a great point.

And I think that this is like a really important point in terms of American politics. Transparency should be paramount in American politics. But no Republican will take Democrats seriously if Democrats talk about corruption without talking about Nancy Pelosi. What are you talking about? I'm just telling you, if you cry about corruption with the Trump administration or any other Republicans, but you never said shit to the Speaker of the House

for decades while she made hundreds of millions of dollars on $175,000 a year salary, If you never said one thing about it, and now all of a sudden you're like, oh, let's track Trump's crypto, which we should. We should track Trump's crypto. But if you never said a single thing while the leader of your party robbed Americans blind, Rob is a hard term. But definitely insider trading. Inside trading. Inside trade like a motherfucker while people are going to jail for that shit, right?

She's making hundreds of millions of dollars off of it. If you never said a single thing about that, it's very hard to take the criticism seriously. Well, how do we know this criticism is coming from Democrats? This says oversight and historic review commissions either were not fully consulted or they're involved in this problem. You don't know Republicans give a fuck about this shit. No, no, no, no. But these are people who are, if you want to make renovations like this, you're supposed to talk to these people. Yeah, yeah, I know.

And he didn't. He don't talk to anybody. Listen, and I'm not saying that that's a good thing. And they want to know who is donating, what are the strings. Some people worry about conflicts and interest since many donors may do business with the federal government. Can I just say? Can I just say? And it's the same person that took a plane for a $400 million plane.

Can I just say everything you're saying is so legitimate and an amazing criticism? I think that it's like, these are really important things. And we should make sure that the people in power will not use their power to enrich themselves or bypass certain systems that we have to limit people's power. Right? I agree with all this shit. But you can't get private funding for something. I'm with, I don't know about that one exactly, but I'm with you. You shouldn't want them to.

Sure. I guess my point is it's very difficult for people to take that criticism seriously if that same criticism isn't willing to be applied to the leaders of the own party. It just seems like partisan bullshit. It just seems like how can we knock down the opposition? Because if right in front of your face, you're seeing the exact same corruption. But why are we so quick to blame the other side as opposed to just saying there are commissions that provide these checks and balances that whatever reason to come. always try over. Why do I trust you with politics? I don't know. Me neither. No, no, no. But like, for me, you're somebody that has the courage to call out your own party, even if that's not favorable,

even if it's not popular, even if you're going to be completely maligned for it. I'm with you. Because you will call it right from wrong. I like to think that I'm the same in that way. Like, I just call out right from wrong. If I see it, I believe it. What I'm trying to tell you, I'm not saying that this shouldn't be called out. What I'm saying is it's easy to ignore. Like, Republicans just ignore the shit because they're like, oh, now you're upset. But when Pelosi's getting hundreds of millions of dollars

for yourself, you don't say shit. But Nancy did get a lot of smoke for this, this exact same thing. People want the transparency. They want to make sure that people are going through the checks and balance. What smoke did she get? When they find out...

She's free, right? So it's Trump. When they find out this year, you're not going through these checks and balances. Yes, people have the right to raise hell. And I really think that the private funding... I think so, too, by the way. I hope you understand my point,

which is like, I think these legitimate criticisms. I think the private funding is the most important thing. Because, man, if you're taking all of these gifts, you're taking these planes, if fucking private funders are building shit in the West Wing, what are they getting in the return? Guys, guys, guys, guys, I, we're all in the same picture, right?

I think we all know that. Like, I'm agreeing with you in terms of all this stuff. All this stuff, it should be concerned. You should be concerned about, like, the transactional nature naturally because if there's transactional nature, you're going to expect something. So I 100% get that. What I find really refreshing, though, is when Republicans are willing to call out Republican shit, Dems are willing to call out Dems shit. And I think that an important part in the discourse in like being able to like communicate ideally once again is that both

parties will at least acknowledge their own shortcomings. And a beautiful thing that's happening right now, I think, with Democrats, is like they're starting to do it. Yes. How come Republicans can't acknowledge Trump shortcomings, though? Well, I think you've seen it happen. Like, fucking Marjorie Taylor Green is all the sudden... I don't trust it. Okay.

Fair, fair, fair, fair. You don't have to trust it. But what is happening? That's the flanker on the football field. Sure. She's a decoy. She might be. But what is happening?

She's kind of like become an incredibly popular figure. Right? Isn't it crazy? Why is the left still accepting of these individuals? It's not about accepting. She has utility. It's like you... I know what you're saying.

Yeah, that's all. it is. It's like it's, it's more effective when somebody from the other team is criticizing that team. It's like how it's like how the right uses my sound bites. Yeah. Exactly that. Yeah. Exactly. Right. It's like anytime we're critical of Democrats on a pod, the right is going to clip and they're going to post it on Twitter. Because they made up their minds and I'm a liberal star. Right. Right. And it's like, so yeah. So yeah, that's what I would say. But what I would say is there's something incredibly refreshing. Like one of the things that makes Bernie so appealing is Bernie had been calling out his own party for fucking decades. So all of a sudden you start to trust him. You go, wait a minute,

this guy's going to call it like it is. And then we know the people that just tow the party line. And while it might feel good to hear them like rebuke a talking point and you might feel satisfied because like that's how you feel and he's going to give you an argument for it, you don't really trust that that's how he feels. A person that is unique to themselves is going to have opinions on both sides. That's a great point because that's the reason I don't trust Marjorie Taylor Green because I've been watching. And I'm not. I think people can't change their mind, and I think people should change their mind. And I'm actually probably being a hypocrite because I am a person that, you know, says,

hey, man, if somebody sees that something is wrong, acknowledge that it's wrong, right? Like, if you keep going down the path that you know is wrong, but you're not telling everybody is wrong, you're fake to me. So to watch her do what she's doing now, even though I don't trust it, that is what you're actually supposed to do. Yeah, it's still a good thing. It is still a good thing, but like this is what I thought, like, you had Shapiro, I think, on the breakfast club. You called out a great thing. You're like, you're like, you're against reparations for black people, but like, Jews got reparations after the Holocaust.

I don't remember if that was Shapiro. No, Ben Shapiro, not Josh. Oh. Yeah, and then he was like, he gave some kind of answer that he was kind of not even acknowledging it. But like, like, recently, I think he was on like the Trigger Nometry podcast or something like that. And he was like, yeah, if you can't afford to live in a place, then you got to move. Like, that's just what it is. and I don't think Ben has bad intent when he does these things,

but I don't think he realizes that oftentimes he holds America to higher standards than he holds Israel, for example, right? Because it's like, you're going to tell Americans that can't afford to live in New York City that they should go move and look for opportunities somewhere else. But like, if you can't afford your own wars, then maybe you shouldn't fight them. Right? So, like, you have, what I think that people get frustrated at is, like, you've got to keep that same energy. If you are for government assistance,

If you're for government support, if you're for government aid for Israel, then you should at least be understanding of government support, government aid for the American people. And I don't think he's doing this with bad intent. Like I'm actually trying to give him the best read possible here. Like, but I think it's hard for people to see past their own personal issues. Sometimes, yes. And I'm sure that's like very near and dear to him. So I do have respect for that.

But at the same time, like somebody watching it is going to go, wait a minute, we can give billions of money, billions of dollars for. with this thing over here, but when someone is saying, we need to make a city more affordable, you're saying, nah, it is what it is, like this is the system, you gotta move somewhere else and look for opportunity. They're gonna naturally go, whoa, this feels hypocritical.

He might have a great argument for it, and that's fair, but the feeling people are gonna have, he goes, that guy's a hypocrite, and it looks like he's prioritizing this one thing over this thing, and that's something he should think about when he's communicating. And my problem is, I can see where everybody's coming from. Yeah.

I completely understand what Ben Shapiro is. saying, because I saw many people, especially during COVID, they was like, I'm getting the fuck out of New York, right? I got, this shit is too expensive. I got to stay in this cramped-ass apartment. I can't leave. Mad people took the dash down south, right? And I can also see where Andrew was coming from, and Andrew's like, yo, if you have a country

that, you know, can't afford to fight your own war, then maybe you shouldn't be fighting them. I see it all. Yeah. And that's my problem. Or we start to go, hey, you know what, it's okay to want to help people here. And it's okay to want to help people. I see that side too.

But we don't go, this is the only one that we help and this is what we don't. Our conservative values don't go out the window when it comes to helping foreign nations. You know, sometimes. And we should help here first before we help. Well, I think that's what a lot of Americans are feeling right now, which they should. Like, this is, you know, you've got to help home. Like, I care about Americans more than I care about anybody else. Do you know sometimes when you're having conversations with people, and I really mean this wholeheartedly?

It is very rare when a person is just completely wrong. I'm talking about if you just take a step back, leave all your personal biases, and just be objective and actually just listen to a person, you can almost understand where everybody is coming from. But then you've got to make a decision on, okay, I can understand where you're coming from, but which one of these ideas is going to benefit the most of us.

I think that's what a lot of people do nowadays It's either one or two things You either have your own personal biases You're not being objective You're not listening You don't give a fuck Whatever this person says is wrong Because they're not on what you want

They're not on whatever side You're reping They're against what you're against So you just dismiss them Right But most of the time When you're listening to good ideas You're listening to ideas

You're going to take the best idea that you think can help To most people That's what I think we Got to start doing I think you're 100% right I think we try to do that. It's just sometimes, I think, like, I think that's what Mumdani is at least trying to do.

He's like, hey, we're going to do these things and these things are going to help. I think what often happens in reality is that sometimes the good ideas don't lead to the outcome. Sometimes good ideas do lead to outcomes. That's awesome. Yeah. But sometimes good ideas don't lead to the outcomes you want. Like, the number one thing that's going to change affordability of rent in New York City is just building more apartments. It's not freezing rent.

It's not doing anything else but building more apartments. Freezing rent is going to skyrocket rent on the apartments there are in what's called the free market. It's when he freezes the rent, people who have not rent-controlled or rent-stabilized apartments are going to go way higher and it's become way more unaffordable. The only thing that will stop it is if we build more apartments. And in order to do that, you have to do rezoning and every mayor promises they're going to do it and no mayor does it. If Mamdani comes in, rezones, reduces... Explain what you mean by rezoning? So there are certain places that are not zoned to be built in.

And this is a long process. You have to get approval from Albany for these. Like, they might be zoned for office. They might be zoned for nothing at all. Yeah, retail. I get what you saying. Or there might be certain buildings that, like, within the neighborhood, there are certain people that go,

hey, we don't want a tall building our neighborhood. We like the fact that it's all lower buildings in the neighborhood. Yeah. Well, now you have to fight that very powerful neighborhood Alliance. And don't think they're not, because that's the same type of people that voted not to have a casino in Times Square. Exactly. It didn't matter who. And also, like, I have empathy for those people. It's like they spent probably their whole life savings on a home in this beautiful little brownstone community. And you're going to come in and then for years erect some giant skyscraper that's

going to completely train, like change what that neighborhood is. Like, I also have empathy for them, right? But it's going to require a mayor who comes in and deregulates, changes the building laws. Because right now, like, developers, if they could make money developing, they would develop, right? But they can't. So you have to change those laws

that make it not profitable, and you've got to let them fucking develop. And that will change it. But until a mayor comes in and does that, and hopefully it's Modani, but nothing is going to change with affordability in terms of housing. It's just not.

So you're saying that his idea to freeze is not the best idea. His idea is freeze is not the best idea. I think it's the most catchy in the same way build a wall is catchy. It's like building a wall is not going to stop illegal immigration. You know, it probably will, these horrific videos you see with ice. But build a wall sounds better marketing-wise than going, hey, we're going to see,

we're going to have ICE agents do like completely dehumanizing things to people and throw them in the back of cars and kick them out. Like you can't really run on that. And freezing the rent does help a group of people, a large group of people who are in rent-stabilized apartment. they know for at least for one or two years, my rent's not going to go up because my salary is not going. Totally. What I would just say to that.

Yes, it does also hurt the people that are in the free market. Yeah, but what I would say to that is, like, we have freezer right before. I think DeBlasio did it twice. I know people don't own that shit now. Yeah, so it's like, help. Yeah, and I think it gave them relief, but it unfortunately didn't, like, have a long-term solve of the housing crisis. And, like, that's what I'm, again, I'm, knock on wood, like, currently, like,

unaffected by these things. So my interest in this is just wanting people to live in an awesome city, the most amazing city in history and be able to afford to live here and not have to move back to where they're from. I want people to have that opportunity, right? So what actually allows that is more apartments. Yeah. This is a bandit. The freeze is a bandit. And I just feel little solutions are good, even if it's not going to be the main thing that fixes everything. Yeah. If you do a bunch of good little things, that's also helpful. If they're leading to your ultimate goal. Exactly. I also think it like it, it, it, it, it, it, showcases the sentiment, which is like, I want to do something to help you. And I think like when people want help, that means a lot. Even if it doesn't solve it in the long term, it means a lot when somebody that's in a position of power goes, here's help. Yeah. And I get it. Yeah.

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Oh man, Higgy 30 said is using the word sassy, a low-key slur from dropping the F word. It is. It is. You think? And I didn't realize how much sassy hurt people until this week. We did a, we did a topic on breakfast club. We asked people to call

in, tell us what's your trigger word. And this guy said he hates when his girl calls him sassy. Yeah, yeah. No, that's crazy for your girl to call you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. His girl thinks he's gay. That's my point. That's crazy. But even if you're not gay,

if you're doing something that just, it's just sassy. Like, sassy is almost like teenage girl, like, not even teenage girl, like a 10-year-old, like not being sassy with your parents. You know what I mean? You know what it is, what? You're calling them gay, bro. Yeah. She's calling him gay. I mean, I'm not disagreeing when hitting you 30. It is a low-key slur from dropping the F word, but you also got to remember what sassy means. Let's look up the definition. If your girl is calling you it, it is. Damn. Yeah, that's crazy. Depend to what eras she is, she just going to call you this.

son that is worse well listen sassy means lively sassy means lively bold and full of spirit cheeky cheeky might be worse than sassy

don't call me fucking you're from London you can say cheeky and that's fine nah don't call me cheeky bro that means you're looking at my cheeks bro you're saying nah for real that's what it feels like fucking mean cheek

sassy's crazy so if you got a fat asses a man and a guy calls you cheek you all gonna speak your cheeky they know Jaded like that. Did they, the gay dudes look at straight dudes with a fat ass the same way we look at hot lesbians? I'm sure.

I'm sure. I got a whole new theory about, it's really just a waste, huh? What you mean their waist? The hot lesbians or the guys with the fat ass. Like, you're built with this big old donkey ass, but a guy can't get behind it and throw your head into a dashboard. Well, not girls like to grab the ass too? when they're hitting it? What?

When you're on top of them, they reach back and grab your cheekies. No, you ain't got no ass. That's why you don't have more ass than you. No, that's not true. I do have more ass than you, 100%.

Don't let me get the glutes out. It's not even close, bro. I don't know, Charlotte. You might have lost it. Nah, you don't have. If you want to see it, just say you want to see it. Yeah, you're staring right at me.

I want to see it. I want to see it. I want to see it. You're standing right at me. I'm standing right at me. You're standing right at me. You're standing right at me. I can't even close. Come on, bro.

Come on, man. And then I got on baggy shit, and my shit's still cheeked up. Look at the excuses. Cheeked up. Nah, I'm shaked up. You're not feeling it out, bro. You're really not feeling it out. I was feeling it out, bro.

He wants to see me twerking. I know what that means. I was trying to give me to do more. You like the guy in the script club holding a bunch of ones in their hand like, nah, shoddy. Now, you give me a one head, two head. Nah, I know what this is. Also, I got a whole theory about men, right?

Yeah. Men should not care if other people, other men are gay. It should not bother you in any way, shape, or form, but it's not that it bothers them. I feel like any man that is wondering if another man is gay, he wants to know for his own personal benefit, he wants to fuck. It's just like when you see a pretty girl and you like, yo, is she single?

You inquiring. Don't inquire about my sexuality. You inquiring about my sexuality. That means you might want to fuck it. what if he's like talking to your girl a little bit too much? Then if you want to know, it's just like, oh, okay, it's fine. Huh? Say that again? Like, say if a guy...

It's not personal. Say if a guy... No, I'm just saying. Yeah, it's not personal. Okay, look, go ahead. What's that laugh comes up? I'm just saying, you can't think of a situation. And I would say that would be a situation where you would want to know.

If a guy's like, say, talking to your girl too much, and then you're like, oh. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see what you say. I thought you meant like the guy. guy was talking to his your girl inquiring about you. No, no. Because he think you gay.

No. That's not. So he wanted to know if y'all want to have a three-sum. That's not. Way. You came up with a whole other scenario. Because it sounded so personal, Alex. I was just like, what?

There's a guy asking your girl about you? No. That would be a time where you inquired. But they wouldn't ask your girl. They didn't ask Weizie. Weezy told me that before. That guy that wanted to, you look mad sassy when you did that. You know, stop.

You don't do that. You don't do that. He was like, what? You ain't see that? No, Weasie told, Wee said that, you know, there'd be guys that be trying to hit on you and they always come to her and ask like, yo, is Alex really?

And she'd be like, no, he's not. Shut up, Charlotte. I'm not making this up. Whatever. Wee didn't ever told you this? Next question. You want me to call? Is that hard to believe?

Oh, she's out the country anyway. Is that hard to believe? What do you mean? Like, you have the nail polish, your fashion forward. No, I look good. I think that's respectful. I can understand it. That's more respectful than, like,

that coming to you, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's not assuming. He's just like, yo, it's... Yeah. I'm sure it can happen, but that's not a thing that happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you mean? It's not a thing that happens.

No, he's making it seem like... You don't think one gay guys ever liked you in your life? No, I'm saying that's a thing that could have happened, maybe one, but he's making it seem like that's a regular... So if it happened once, you don't think it could happen twice? Yeah. No. You should never assume somebody is gay.

You make an ass out of your... when you assume somebody is gay. And when you assume somebody's gay, that means you want the ass. So you're making an ass out of yourself, and that means you want to ask. Because assume is ass, you, me. That's what you, exactly.

Ask you, me. As you meet. That's what he was trying to say. Ask you me. That is. That's power. I gotta write that one down because I'm saying that at least five more time this week.

You got to understand, bro. Fraggle maggot, As you, me. Who. Finding just new ways. Gems. Finding gems. To say it.

Yeah. Woo. All right. What else we got? If laughter burns calories, should comedians be considered personal trainers? Oh, I like this one. Joe Joe Bucic,

whatever the fuck. What do you think about this show? No, it doesn't burn calories. Latter doesn't burn calories. I mean, like, not enough. Because fat people are always the most giggly. That's not true. Fat people don't truly find anything funny

because they always know that they do Oh, interesting. That's right. That's right. So they're fake laughing. That's right. They're fake laughing doesn't burn calories. Are they become comedians?

You know what I'm saying? Are they become comedians or hardcore rappers? It's the truth. It's the truth. Carl, um, shun underscore 94 says, what's your advice on how you can help your postpartum wife? You just got to be there for all my brother. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, there's nothing you can do. It is just a biological thing that happens. And you just got to wait. Tell her get back to sucking. Shut up. Shut out. You got to suck out your depression. You got to suck it out.

And you got to be there for her when she's going. One way to get rid of depression. No. No. No. You got to slurp it out. You got to slurp it out. Go find somebody that can help you with meal prep.

You know what I'm saying? 100%. I got a meal. You know what I'm saying? You got a smoothie. Get a smoothie in your sister. You're going to feel so much better. Hey.

A night nurse. You get a full. these things, you know, get somebody that can help your wife for a child. Luckily head costs nothing and it'll make her feel so good and so happy. Spill. Help your postpartum wife as you can.

Not for her. You owe her that. No, no, no. LewisB.co says, why do people so easily embrace evil when it's hidden behind a cross and call itself Christian? Whoa. God damn. What is that? That sounds perfect.

Yeah, what evil? What evil is Christianity? You know, the Christian websites have been posting so much of our content? No. Yes, they be tagging me on Instagram because they swear that I don't believe in God of Jesus. Well, just tell them right now. I 100% believe in God of Jesus.

I think we had a good conversation with Pastor Todd. Because one of the things I saw go viral was our conversation about... You do have that Muslim guy on your neck. Love him. Love the Honorable Lodge Mohammed. But it was a conversation we... By the way, they believe in Jesus too. where there was a conversation about...

They'd be saying that shit. No, they do. They believe he existed. He did exist. But they don't believe. Believe what, though? They believe he was a prophet. Yeah, but believing so as a prophet is different than believing.

Somebody got mad at me because I said Jesus was a messenger. He was. It says it in the Bible. He was a prophet. He was the son of God. We hear that a lot where Muslims are like, we also respect and we believe in Jesus. Yeah, yeah.

But you don't believe Jesus is the one. He is the king. And that is what Christians believe. He is the king of kings. Jesus don't even believe that, though. Say again? Jesus don't want you to believe that. Hmm?

Jesus don't want you to believe that. All right, here we go. Clip it. Clip it. We're back on, we're back on the Christian blocks. I pull up the scripture. What do you mean? What do you mean?

Jesus is the Lord and Savior. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Lord. You just said. No, you didn't. This is debated amongst theologians, like whether, Jesus believed that he was the son of God, but

the Christians believe that he did, and that's the message that he was preaching. Jesus says, the most important commandment is this. Here, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. So this is Jesus affirming the central Jewish belief. There is only one God, no other gods, beside him. This is the eternal life that they know you, the only true God, in Jesus Christ whom you have sent. That's John 17, 3.

is Jesus says. Jesus says the Father is the only true God. Jesus denies having independent divine power. John 530, I can do nothing by myself. He points everything back to the Father's authority. Jesus says God is greater than Him. John 1428, the Father is greater than I, again reinforcing God's supremacy. Jesus says to worship and serve God alone. Matthew 410, worship the Lord your God and serve Him only. I don't know why that's... But he is God. That's where it gets confusing.

The Holy Trinity, my boy. I know. I talk to the pastor taught about it, but even the way... I hear a lot of people describe it a lot of different ways, and I... I don't know. I just believe in God, and I believe in Jesus, and I believe in all prophets and messages that have been sent here to get us back to the word of me. Even the ones after Jesus?

Yes. Well, that's an issue. Christians are going to have an issue with that one. Prophets? With after Jesus prophets. They believe in the ones before. So that's your question. What do you call pastors and stuff now who preach to try to get us back to the word?

Those are prophets. What are they messengers? They're pastors. I don't know. I don't know. What's the prophet? It's a messenger from God. God is speaking through them.

How do we know God ain't speaking through Bishop T.D. Jakes? Like what makes us think, how do we know God didn't speak through, We don't know. That's what I'm saying. Why can't those people be considered prophets? We don't know. That is the, uh, faith. Faith is what we, uh, faith is, faith is not knowing. Did the prophets say that God is talking through me right now? It's a good question. They got messages from God. Yeah. Yeah, they definitely got messages from God. Yeah, they got messages just from God. But the one that went viral for us was, and I shouldn't have said BS. I'm not going to lie. We was having a conversation about Jesus and you was talking about the forgiveness aspect.

And I said that's that BS. But I wasn't talking about Jesus. I was just talking about the mentality that humans have like we almost have unlimited sins. And that's what I was talking to Pastor Mike taught about, you know, on the Breakfast Club. Because I feel like if an apology, I feel like the best apology is change behavior, then the best form of repentance has to be changed behavior as well. So I don't want to live my life. Like I can just sin, sin, sin, and pray for forgiveness.

I would rather live my life the way Jesus did and strive to be the best version of myself and not sin. I think that that's an amazing way to live life. And I think that people would say that's a Christian way to live life. That's all. Yeah. But for whatever reason, people took that and was like, I hope he repents before he goes to hell. I'm like, God, damn.

Like, I don't know. What? I really don't know. The weird part about it is, this is what I really was thinking to myself. Man, y'all are very brutal on these Christian pages. Aren't y'all supposed to be Christian? And I did leave one comment because I'm like this, I like discussion was like, This is a smart discussion.

It's about religion. But when I left the comment, there was people in my comments telling me I'm the worst person ever. I'm going to hell, blah, blah, blah, this and that. You know, I've listened to you for years. You probably shouldn't if you're a Christian. That's the number one. Well, I'm just like, God, this place is a, this is a very judgmental space. There is a, we had Tim Tebow on Flagrant.

No. You knew about the show beforehand? Yeah. He's still a Christian? Yeah. Yeah, I don't think we converted. But no, no, no, we had him on. And he did the most fire shit, man.

We were talking about, like, I was bringing up Aaron Hernandez a little bit because, you know, they went to Florida together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he got, like, a little emotional talking about. Like, there's multiple times that everybody gets, like, emotional. But, and he starts to kind of defend Aaron. Now, Aaron has done some, like, heinous shit, okay? Yeah, and he's dead. And he's dead.

God bless the day. But, like, he's done some of his shit. It's very easy to just be able to make fun of him, point of face. or at a bad person, whatever. And, like, Tim, like, saw the humanity in this person, like, what he endured in his life that led him to these fucked up decisions that he made. Absolutely.

And, like, it was a beautiful moment of, like, what I imagine we would hope to uphold with Christianity, which is, like, seeing good in someone, even though they've done bad, right? And that... Yeah. And it was, like... And saying...

that out loud on a podcast, you would get scrutinized. Like, defending Aaron Hernandez to a certain extent. He wasn't defending what he did, but he was like, I feel really bad about what he went through that led to this. I wish I could have done more to help him. Yeah, I don't think it's a defense. I think that... I thought it was brave.

If you are a person who can see past your own ego, if you're a person who's done any kind of work on themselves, if you're a person that is really spiritual like the Tim Tebow is, you can always see what led a person to do what it is that they do. done, not excusing their behavior. You're not trying to justify their behavior. You're just telling us, I can see how he ended up being that individual, right? And you do wish you could have intervened. By the way, we act like that doesn't happen all the time to like the young criminal. Like when a young person does something really heinous, people would be like, man, I wish I wouldn't

intervene. Like, y'all, I didn't know that this was happening to him at home. I didn't know he was having issues with his mom or his mom was on drugs. I didn't know he didn't have a father growing Like, you, you start, you know, going back in a person's life, seeing all the mistakes that they made and wishing you could have intervened. So, I mean, like, yeah. I don't see the problem. No, there's no problem. I think it's beautiful. It's like, if there is one aspect of Christianity that I wish we could, like, put into the water in America a little bit now.

I mean, probably the world, but, like, especially in America where everybody's so siloed and isolated and, like, we're constantly seeing the most radical. version of everyone and dehumanizing them and not trying to get in touch with, you know, the better nature of who they are, seeing them as an actual person with feelings, family, love, compassion, right? Like, you were talking about the Melissa thing earlier. Like, I think that she's missing some Christianity. Like, she's missing this idea that people are not perfect and we have to do our best to love them and we have to do our best to love each other and see humanity and see God in every single person who is a sinner. And if... You should do her podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like,

if for me I would go that would be an amazing thing to insert into the discourse here in America it'd be amazing thing to insert

into every like political pundit it'd be an amazing thing to insert if we saw a little bit more humanity in each other we had a little bit

more Christianity in the water I think that this would be a much more pleasant place to at least disagree with one in each other

you know I'm gonna say the point that Shultz is making that's that don't get cliques that don't get clicks right I think the point

is a good point because it goes back to like you know, you can't tell me something about a person I actually know. So Tim Tebow saw things in Aaron that we never saw. And I'm not, once again, don't infuse anything that Aaron did. He just saw a different version of him that actually existed. Yeah.

I don't know if that's the best example, though. No, it's the most extreme example. And him being able to maintain his faith within the most extreme example was the most impressive to me because it's very easy to do it with like a misunderstood pundit or like a misunderstood like guy from the neighborhood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's different when you know it's somebody who has murdered people. Yeah, because I like, you know, like if everything they said about Shultz was true

and he was putting on Klan robes at night, I would be genuinely shocked. It would be a genuine shock to me. And everybody would be saying, no, how did you not say it? I'm like, I knew him for real. I thought I knew him. Yeah. Right? You wouldn't be shocked, Alex?

I would be shocked. But to everybody else, it wouldn't be. But I bet you... Hopefully not everybody else. Like, hopefully... Hopefully it's just like people caught up in these algorithms and like... Like, if you found out I was really gay. Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked.

All right, man. How do you maintain him? You know what? But that is the shit that like... It's like when I hear the same things about like you being like, some super liberal and stuff like that. I'm like, oh, wow, you don't really know Sharla.

Yeah, you got a bag of hat. I've seen them wearing when we're just on the beach killing. I'm saying. Uh, Nino, oh, dude, I like this one. Nino underscore, blue underscore says, how do you maintain the amount of relationships you've created throughout your career?

By just being a solid person. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? By treating people the way that you want to be treated, man. I can't talk behind nobody's back. If I got an issue with any person, that I actually generally care about.

We're going to have a conversation about it. I see too much fake shit that I'm not with. And I'm not with, please, I promise y'all. There's some of y'all, y'all have no idea how much y'all on my shit list. And you're on my shit list because I always tell Andrew things. I say, yo, whenever somebody takes a shot at you, watch who rides with said individual.

Yeah. Because that person was just always waiting on a reason to hate on you. And there's some of you, There's some individuals, man, that I know been hating for a while. And I just been watching, like, hmm, I see them leave little comments here or, you know, repost people talking shit about me. And I'm like, but this guy's, he's always texting me. Or this person's always calling me. But then when I, and when I see the person to have a conversation with them, they're like, I don't even run my Instagram.

Yo, like, what? This is, it's so funny when, like, they act shocked. You know, like, they're so unaware of their behavior. Or maybe they think that you're unaware, like, you're not seeing. That's what I think. Because I see everything. So I think people think that I don't see shit. And then when I act in kind, they're like, well, how the hell did this happen?

And then I have to remind them that they might have fired a little shot first. They might have showed disloyalty first. Because I'll never be the one to do that. Never. Ever want. Like there's few stand-up people in this business, but I would say that we are stand-up individuals. Listen, I've had the same friends for years. I promise you, man.

If you see a person not around me no more, it's because it's some fuck shit that, you know... They was up to. up to, you know what I mean, and they were playing me. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I, that's, that's it. I love and value my relationships, like, especially the ones that have been around for a long time, you know what I mean? Because that shit, you know how much shit we don't been through together?

Like, I don't care about when you're with me when shit is cool. Man, when that, when the fucking storm is coming, you know what I mean? That's when you learn. True colors. And there's a lot, but by the way, there's a lot of people that have done that that I never really I'm talking about like in the industry. Like not personal shit, but like in the industry. There's a couple people I see being fuck motherfuckers and I'm like,

I never really considered them a friend anymore. Yeah, I don't really care about them. You know what I'm saying? But it's nice to know because it's like, okay, well, I was treating you as a friend and a colleague. Even though they were at homies, I was like, I thought that we had that. But once I see you act like a fuck, I don't really got to, I don't really have to treat you in that way.

I have to defend you. I don't got to like, somebody wants to do something. talk shit about you. I'm, all right, let it rip. Yeah, listen, I got a person right now who I still love. We had a, it wasn't, I wouldn't even, it was such a, it was such a minor thing. Like, I mean, when I say it was so small, it was literally just like a miscommunication while we were actually on the phone.

I was thinking I was doing something that was helping the individual, but they didn't like how I did it. And all they had to do is some of you, I didn't, I didn't. feeling that. Cool. But that person took that opportunity to be like, I, yo, let me get off the phone,

whatever, whatever. I ain't spoke to the person since. But then since that time, I've seen this individual, leave comments, right? Shitting on us and shitting on me. And I'm just like, I love you. Like,

and always have loved you. But clearly, love ain't there. Love it. Wasn't the same. Because I would, even, I would never do that.

Do you still, to this day, I would never do anything like that. Some people are only loyal to opportunity. That could be true too, but you would think otherwise when it's 20-plus-year relationships, you know what I mean? Oh, 100%. But sometimes it's like if they don't see any more opportunity there, that loyalty goes away and then they could start acting the way. Again, I don't know. It's like I got the same friend since I was in fucking high school. You know what I mean?

My manager, my first friend in college. Dope. You know what I mean? Like Jamil. I in view that, bro. No, Jamil's my first friend. friend in high school, he's doing all our partnerships. You know, Alex and I've started doing this shit together. Like, so all the people I've carried through my life from like my real friends,

if I see people in the industry and like they only kind of really got industry friends, I'm not knocking it immediately, but there's a part of me that goes, oh, maybe all these people are tools for your success. No, that's true. Like, that's true. And that's okay too. Like, if you have that type of ambition, you want to go through things like that, that's fine. I would rather build things with the homies and like there's going to be peaks. There's going to be value. we're going to endure all that shit together. But I know in the long run, it's the stock market, baby.

It's like, you know, knock on wood. We're going up. I think that's the coolest shit in the world. I know, I got, you know, long-term friends that I work with and do business with, too. But, like, you know, guys like my guy Frosty or, like, my cousin Kinty, or like, my boy, Boovie. Like, you know, Drell, God bless the dead.

But I, like, I wish, like, they could be running around with me every day. You know what I mean? It's a little different. Like, I happen to be born and raised. in a city where people come for their careers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

So it's like if that was Charleston, I'm sure there were a lot of people that you would build them with regularly. I'd be begging to be in New York and not have anybody around me. You know what I'm saying? Let's do one more, Alex, and get up out of hell. Oh, I love this question.

Alexa Grin says, revive any celebrity back from the day. who would it be in why? Woo. I got too many, man. I couldn't do one, y'all. Can we do a top five? Go.

Epstein, right? Revive any, he wasn't a celebrity. Revive any celebrity back from the dead, who would it be in why? Revive any celebrity back from the dead, who would it be in why? He's saying celebrity. So I'm thinking...

Is it not politician? Yeah. World leaders. These are not religious figures. Celebrity. These are people in entertainment. Celebrity. Nipsey Hustle, because he was a good, great brother.

When he was alive, I would always say he's a rapper that people can look up to literally and figuratively, because he was, you know, so tall. But, you know, sometimes you get to see what a person represented when they die, because we like to give people flowers when they're gone. But when, but he didn't necessarily get that the way he should have when he was alive. but I just think he would do so much for us as a culture right now if he was here. So Nipsey Hustle, selfishly, the notorious B-I-G, just because those first two albums was so good. Ready to Die and Life After Death, that double album was so good and all his features and stuff was so good.

His short rap career was so good. I just wanted to see how he would evolve. Like we saw how did he, I mean, not did he, how big he evolved? I mean, how Biggie, how Hove evolved. With the music, I just want to see what Biggie's fourth, fifth album would sound like. We didn't get a blueprint from Biggie. Yeah.

Imagine what Biggie's, like, magnum opus would have sounded like, that one, that album that defines him. Like, I don't feel like Ready to, I mean, Ready to Die Life After Death, Def, because he's no longer here. But if he would have stayed alive, whoa. Yeah. So Nipsey, Biggie, Joe, Joan Rivers. Joe, Joan Rivers, because Joan Rivers did not give a fuck.

Can you imagine what the Joan Rivers podcast would sound like? Oh, my God. Can you imagine what the Joan Rivers podcast would sound like? Yeah, that's a wild girl. George Carlin, because I know we're not supposed to use the word profit. A lot of things George Carlin said back then. Sure. That absolutely came true.

So I would love to see what he sees for the future. future now. Sure. And my fifth, who would my fifth be? Oh, this is tough. My fifth would probably be Tupac. And it would be Tupac for the same exact reasons

as a Nipsey because everybody has these conversations about what Tupac would have evolved into. You know, not even just on some entertainment thing, just what he would have evolved, evolved into as a, you know, person in life. I would have loved to see that. That's a good list, man.

Jokes? Some labories. Everybody's dead. He already told you about the boat shit. He said, he said, like, what? What?

Don't do that. No, who would I want to live? Patrice O'Neill, greatest comic ever. That would be awesome, especially during, like, censorship time, especially, just all of it

would just be absolutely fantastic. Just celebrities, entertainers. I'm trying to think, like, who's someone that died young that you're like, man, we didn't get enough of that? Kobe. Oh, is that a celebrity? Absolutely.

Okay. Yeah, Kobe was. Yeah, Kobe, for sure. Kobe, man. Look, because that shit was so tragic, right? Like, now, bring him in, Gigi back. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Kobe would be fantastic. Michael Jackson. I wanted to see what he was going to do that last tour run. Yeah. Yeah. You know what's so crazy? I know this going to sound really crazy. I'm glad they're doing the Michael Jackson biopic.

They used to give Michael so much hell. I don't feel like they deserved Michael. Michael used to get so much hell while he was here and while he was alive, yo. Yeah. I don't think that this dimension deserved Michael Jackson, you know. I really don't. The way they picked him apart, you know, Like, like, this guy, he probably had, he probably had no peace.

He probably didn't get peace until after he transitioned. Yeah. Like, I don't, I don't know if I would do that to Michael. Like, you, I feel like in today's era, we would have dug a little bit more into what they were accusing him of. And I think. No, they would have destroyed Michael Lee more. I think the people who were trying to destroy him were the record labels and the powers that be. By the way, I don't disagree with you.

I don't, I say that all the time. When you have these conversations about, oh, he was trying to buy NBC. But Michael Jackson is the only celebrity I really truly believe. Conspiracies around? Yes. They wanted to get him out of here for a number of reasons. A lot of it had to do with that publishing that he owned. Like, yeah, Michael's the only one that I'm really like, yeah, they had a very valid reason to try to get him out of here.

I would have for all that to be clear while he was still alive. And I think people would have dug deep and found that. I think Michael is going to be. I mean, to me, he's already been, like, very redeemed in death. I think we really know that a lot of, most of those, all of those accusations against him was some bullshit. The dude got investigated by the FBI for 17 years. Yeah.

But some people still believe it. I don't believe any of it. I think that the rumors are still around, but they have less sting. Yeah. So, like, I think in death, sometimes the focus is just on the music and how the music made us feel. Like, in death, sometimes the focus is on art. He's got a biopic.

They got MJ on Broadway. Yeah. Ain't nobody out there protesting that shit. So, and when this biopic drop, I don't want to see none of y'all fake, woke people get online and try to stir up no shit because I'll be the first person saying, suck my dick, and I'm going to suck my dick, he-he, after I do it. Okay? Fuck you. Beat it.

As always, ooh, I ain't even tried and that shit did it. That's hard. As always, as always. As always. Chosen one. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent,

you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the Bernie Nidias podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.