The Brilliant Idiots - D**K Discipline

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

This week on The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne tha God and Andrew Schulz are diving into everything from why maternity leave actually matters to what Shannon Sharpe’s recent legal drama teaches us a...bout discipline, relationships, and emotional intelligence. They chop it up about the fine line between public opinion and the law, the importance of accountability in relationships, and how society often jumps to conclusions before facts come out. Expect some deep (and funny) takes on marriage, stability, and how athletes deal with hecklers and public scrutiny. They also gets into the cultural weight of community, divinity, and how fans can push players to their limits. and don’t miss their thoughts on controversial celeb moments, cancel culture, and that new movie Sinners. They break down how humor, folklore, and film can reflect deeper truths in our culture. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Black Effect Podcast Festival: http://blackeffect.com/podcastfestival/ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Pre Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB The Wind on Her Tongue - Anita Kopacz https://a.co/d/fWDancH I Lived to Tell the Story: A Memoir of Love, Legacy, and Resilience - Tamika D. Mallory https://a.co/d/7DoCtWX Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yep, Charlamagne the God. Andrew Shult. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Helichael Walker. Hello. How are you, man? Man, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:00:10 How are you a week? I'm highly caffeinated. Highly caffeinated. Highly caffeinated. I like that. I like that. Blessed white and highly caffeinated. Bless white and highly caffeinated.
Starting point is 00:00:20 I'm blessed black and highly fat. Taylor's pregnant. I just want to shout out Taylor, man. We got a mom to be in the building. Shout out Taylor. I'm fighting for Taylor, man. I need Taylor. to get more than one week of maternity leave.
Starting point is 00:00:32 That's all they're trying to go right now. Uh-uh. One week of maternity leave. Yeah. Wait, why? These mics aren't working, so we're going to use the last. Y'all finally shut her mic off. Something's got disconnected.
Starting point is 00:00:44 What you need to fight for is Kendrick Lamar. Oh, no, you're not going to the concert. No. Why is you not letting me go? You're pregnant. If you're going in a suite, why can I come with you? I don't want to be responsible for any of that. You need to stay home.
Starting point is 00:00:57 My man's going to be with me. I only have one ticket. She got three things. Wow. You know, two tickets. It's crazy. Actually, you need three. Three.
Starting point is 00:01:06 You got the baby. Three. Here's the thing. I think that you don't need to go to the Kendrick Lamar concert. I think you need to stay home and watch it on Instagram like everybody else. Yep. You're pregnant. See, the problem with Taylor is she don't act like she's pregnant.
Starting point is 00:01:19 She's still in here trying to do manual labor. Bro. We had to get her up off the ground. What were you doing? You were plugging in cords. What were you doing? Why are you guys acting like I can't do stuff still? You can't.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Do you see her hoodie? Yes. Her boyfriend bought her a hoodie that has... He didn't buy it for me. He custom made. He got it custom made. He has her production company on it. Taylor made productions.
Starting point is 00:01:41 He did it himself. I'm like, why, bro? You already hit. You hit, you shot the club up. What is the point now? Yeah, what do you do wrong? That's fucked up. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:01:55 What is the point? We love each other, and he even put like on the back, like what my titles are. Where the ring at? Yeah. Fuck them little cute hoodies. I will be. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Hey. And engagement is coming before this year's up. I'm talking to him. Hey. Yo. Hey. Where's the ring at? Right.
Starting point is 00:02:15 We don't want all them hoodies. That's cute. The pressure's not necessary. The engagement is coming before this year is up. That feels like. You should always apply a little pressure. That feels like a little pressure. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:02:24 That somebody who proposed and been married. A little pressure helps. Little pressure helps, right? Took this motherfucker's 17 years. A little pressure help. That's what happens when there's no pressure. But we were young. We were kids.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Bro, I got pressured. We already talking to him. He brought it up more than me. Really? What is he saying? You sure you don't want another hoodie? No. No.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Trying to convince yourself. What happened? You got pressure? Yeah. By who? My wife. By who? My wife.
Starting point is 00:02:51 What did she say? She was like, come on, let's do this already. And at that point, what do you say? No, I'm not ready? Yes. if you're not ready. But what does that mean? Why can't men take back their power?
Starting point is 00:03:01 If you're not ready, take back your power. Why do men have to be forced into doing this? If you're not ready, you're not ready. You're a bad influence. But I'm saying, no, I'm glad that you did. But if you weren't ready, you should not be forced. Is it that much different?
Starting point is 00:03:13 What you mean? Being in a relationship than being married. Oh, I love being married. But I'm saying, why are you saying you're not ready? So what's the... No, I'm just saying for certain guys who aren't ready. I don't, you know, I don't know why guys aren't ready. They have various reasons.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But for me, I don't think this. is anything better than being married. I think you need that stability. Marriage is incredible. And I think that when you actually, you know, focus on what those vows are and you really pour into your marriage the right way, you create the kind of stability and discipline that you need in your life. I think the only reason why some people may wait is when it comes to, like, maybe debt, right?
Starting point is 00:03:48 People say that, but people say that they try to wait for money. That's an excuse. Yeah, it's an excuse. Because if you love a person, y'all going to marry each other, y'all going to grow and you're all going to build. I mean, and all, listen, we clown people for wanting to be with folks that got money, right? So I got to wait till I get rich, demacring you. No, not rich.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I'm saying, like, if they're in debt, don't you want to, like, wait until they get out of that debt a little bit? Well, now it seems like you don't want to absorb that debt. To debt do us part. Ooh! That's what the shit, that's what they say, right? That's truth, though. Don't they say that? That's truth.
Starting point is 00:04:21 To debt do us fucking part. Let me just get a nice little reading material. You guys continue. Yeah, man. Listen, don't go to a close-up over here. That's what happens when you get married. Let me take some. You see that?
Starting point is 00:04:31 That's what happens when you get married and you have stability and discipline in your life. I'm telling y'all, I've told you all this a million times. See how they do the black man, bro? The day- See how they do the black man, bro? You know what piece he's holding up? A queen.
Starting point is 00:04:45 That's right. They try to make the black man gay. That's what Hollywood has. No, that's the gay winning chess piece. And he got the white queen. He don't got the black queen! Umar! First of all, she's based.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Umar! Okay, so listen. Umar, he's bunny hopping! He's bunny! He's bunny! They called him the grandmaster of radio. Definitely. No.
Starting point is 00:05:06 What else do you know a grandmaster of? Chatmigas. What do you mean? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? There's a grandma, that's not his name? There's also the grand wizard. Oh, okay, nothing.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Now, he's wilding. See? I'm just saying this is regular. What I'm trying to say this is regular. I'm just trying to do some light reading. I look at the way. front of it, oh shit. That's right. That's Lawrence Fishburn.
Starting point is 00:05:29 That's stability and discipline. That is what happens when you get married and devote yourself to your wife and your family. Everything else will fall into place. Okay? Tell me y'all won't do it because you're scared. That's how you keep your life from being in shambles. That's how did you just do that? You're scared.
Starting point is 00:05:46 What? I'm just trying. I'm not even joking with y'all. Y'all don't re-variety? Okay. Y'all don't read variety? Okay, listen. Tell me out.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Why didn't hit him, bro? Like, we don't always re-vriri-rri-Ribing. How don't even married? Uh, I don't know. No, that's not. Yeah. It's married since December. Three years.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Three years. We'll edit that. Almost three years. Andrew married since December of 2022. Have you not seen this? Oh, yeah. No, we're not. Have you not seen this?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Have you not seen the Ascension? Go get married. You do Madison Square Garden a couple times. Have you not seen the ascension? Without ever having a comedy special. Without ever having a comedy special on a major network, never been done in history. Come on now. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I'm just saying no big deal. Andrew, let's talk about this. No big deal. No big deal. Your biggest, to me, to me, this is my personal opinion, your biggest tour and your best material Not even close. Came from you being married and having a child.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Not even close. Discipline and stability. Listen, we're not matured enough to have most conversations, but this one we are matured enough to have. Discipline and stability. What do we call that? Disability. Boom, voo, woo, woo, we are disabled.
Starting point is 00:06:54 We are. Okay? Okay? You got it. We are fucking Chris. Let's go! Start the show, Chris. Start the show.
Starting point is 00:07:08 We didn't start already? Chris started. I thought we started. Kick off the show. But no, seriously, guys. You say you're not Crips so you don't get caught up in a RICO? No, we're not those types of Chris.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Disability. I'm using a slur. It's short for cripples. Okay? Be short for cripples. We're married. Thank you for looking now. I was using a slur.
Starting point is 00:07:32 We're not dogging out only fans' models. Let's try. Now listen. We're not doing that. Discipline instability. Discipline and stability. Now, we heard what has happened to Shannon Sharp. Oh, you're saving them fries for later on.
Starting point is 00:07:47 God damn. Telly, eat them shit, not going to be cold. I see you. PJ don't want no cold fries. She packed them fries. P. You don't want no, You packed up some fries, beautiful, girl!
Starting point is 00:07:57 B. Okay, wait. I'm just saying there's no shame over here. The fries. Save you some raffin' fries. I didn't even know sweet greens have fries. Yeah. What sweet greens are deserving fries?
Starting point is 00:08:10 This is new. Doesn't that you get the point? No, Taylor gets the menu d-end. Shut up. She get the bread. That pregnant DM menu is probably crazy. I got my hot meal outside, so I'm just waiting. Why you say a hot meal like you're unhoused?
Starting point is 00:08:24 You got a hot meal outside. What you mean? Why do you stand like that? You got a hot meal outside. What's going on, Taylor? I promise me we'll get you a week and a half of maternity leave. I'm fighting for it. You'll get you a dollar raise and a week and a half maternity leave.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I promise we got you. I promise, Taylor. Can we talk about something serious? We are. We're talking about stability and discipline. And the importance of that within your life and your career. I'm being honest with you. I'm not even joking when I say this.
Starting point is 00:08:54 When great men fall, don't laugh, learn. Oh! The Honorable Minister Louis Farrickand said that. When you see men fall, don't laugh. Learn. When you laugh as somebody else's fall, white or black, rich or poor, your enemy or your friend, you are laughing and opening away for your own demise when you do that. Because to laugh and not learn.
Starting point is 00:09:20 to make my career and not to understand is to make the same mistake yourself. This is a situation that is a teachable moment that is going on with Shannon Sharp. I don't know how many more teachable moments like this we need, but I keep telling y'all over and over and over and over and over again. I actually just feel sad. And the reason I feel sad is because once again,
Starting point is 00:09:44 we're watching a lack of discipline and a lack of stability have somebody out here fighting for their professional life. It's crazy. By the time this podcast come out, who knows what we might find out? What happens? Taylor, what happened? Pull up the story. It's so much, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I don't, I don't. None of us want that hot potato. Just pull up the story. No, pull up the story, because I want to say this accurate. I don't even want anything. When he asked me what happened, I want to be able to say what happened. Just pull up Shannon Sharp. Not, not, uh, make it big. I can't see none of those. I'm telling my eyesight is really going
Starting point is 00:10:24 in my head. And I don't want fucking, um, LASICs. I'm gonna get glasses on. You should get it. I got it. I got it in one eye. I want to be like Chuck Schumer. I want to, I want to have the glasses hanging off my nose. I want to be looking like this and shit. Okay. No, I want to see, go back to the original story. That's, see, all of that is new. That, those are new headlines. There's an original story, though. There's so much stuff coming out with you. Okay, right there. Go to the New York Times one. Shannon Sharp is accused of rape by ex-girlfriend. Girlfriend seems generous.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Oh, you don't have a free account. Damn, go back, go back, go back. But doesn't girlfriend seem generous, though? Isn't she a professional whore? On TMZ? Allegedly. Isn't that the alleged? It's an allegedly.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I just want to point that I'm asking a question. Go to U.S. Just click on the U.S. in it. Is it? Shannon Sharp denied sex worker. Sex worker. Allegations. This is a shakedown.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Okay, make it big. I can read this one. All right, let's see. Pro Football Hall of Famer and media personality, Shannon Sharp denied sexual assault and battery allegations filed in the lawsuit against him, alleging that he's the victim of a blatant set up and shakedown attempt. Sharp has been accused of sexual assault and battery, in addition to engaging in the intentional infliction of emotional distress in a lawsuit filed in Clark County, Nevada on Sunday. According to the suit attained by USA Today, Sports, the plaintiff listed under the alias Jane, though, alleged that Sharp sexually assaulted her twice, once in October 24, and again, in January, 2025. They met at a Los Angeles gym in 2003 when she was 19 and he was 54. One of the attorneys representing Jane, though, was Tony Busby, whom Sharp accused of targeting
Starting point is 00:11:59 him. Sharp said he expects Busby to release a 30-second clip from a sex tape that tries to make me look guilty. Scroll up some more, Taylor. This is a shakedown. I'm going to be open, transparent, and defend myself because this isn't right. Sharp said in the Instagram video on Tuesday, you can play that. Just play that.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Why not? Play that. Just click on the right there. Click where it says in their Instagram. There you go. I can't hear nothing, tell her. Can't hear nothing, tell it. Teller, tell her, tell you.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Tell me, tell you. Tell her, tell you. Tell you, tell you, tell you. Tell you, tell it, tell it. Tell her, just, tell it, this a computer malfunction. Tell it, tell it, tell it. Tell me, come on now, tell. Tell her.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Come on, tell you. Tell it, tell. Tell it. Now, tell you to make the volume louder now, tell her. Tell her. Tell her. Tell her. What?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Tell her. Tell her. What? Tell her. Come on, Teller. Come on, tell her. Tell her. Tell her.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Tell it now. Tell it now. Come on now. Okay, let me go. There you go. There's here from your computer. To my family, friends, supporters, and colleagues, I want to speak to you directly.
Starting point is 00:13:19 directly and from the heart. This is a shakedown. I'm going to be open, transparent, and defend myself because this isn't right. This is all being orchestrated by Tony Buzzley, who is targeted Jay-Z. Tony Busby targets black men, and I believe he's going to release a 30-second clip
Starting point is 00:13:35 of a sex tape that tries to make me look guilty and play into every stereotype you could possibly imagine. That video should actually be 10 minutes or so. Hey, Tony, instead of releasing your edit, put the whole video out. don't have it or I would myself. You know what happened and you're trying to manipulate the media. The encountering question took place during the day at her invitation and now that appears to be a deliberate setup, coordinated by Gabby, also known as Carly on Onlyfans. Gavvy and Tony Busby want
Starting point is 00:14:05 $50 million. What they're getting is sued for defamation and trying to take me down. My career is all about real talk and honesty. I know my family and fans know exactly what this is about. and I'm going to be out there telling you whatever I need to say, just like I always do. I love all you guys. I'm going to tell y'all something, man. I do agree that this is a shakedown. I do agree that Shannon is being targeted,
Starting point is 00:14:31 but you can't shake down nobody if they don't give you nothing to shake. You can't target nobody if they don't give you nothing to target them for. You know, like, you know, Shannon is 56 years old. There is absolutely no reason for a 56-year-old man,
Starting point is 00:14:49 54-year-old man at the time, you'd be hollering at a 19-year-old. Why are you even hooking up with Onlyfans girls outside of the fact that they're so fucking hot, unbelievable? And that's what I mean. That's what I'm talking about when I'm... That's what I'm talking about... But that's what I'm talking about... How could they be so stupid to have sex with a girl and Onlyfans
Starting point is 00:15:05 besides the fact that they're so fucking smoking hot gorgeous? No, bro. At 19? Wait, what? At 19 years old... She's not 19? She's... How old's that girl? She's 22 now. She was 19 when he met her. He was 54. We're talking about 22-year-olds. What I'm talking about? You're next, buddy.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I'm talking about 22-year-olds. Here's the thing. You got to have stability and discipline. I look at my eyes, not my dick. No, that's a lack of dick discipline. That's what that is right there, because a 54-year-old person with that much to lose should not be talking to a 19-year-old. Like, listen, it may be legal, but just common sense should say, you know what, this is not what I want to be in.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Also, if you hook up with a girl on OnlyFilms, it's guaranteed this is going to happen. This is a 99% chance that's what happened. But how green is Shannon Sharp? He's not a rookie. This ain't a 19-year-old, this is a 23-4-year-old, this is a 23-24-year-old mistake. I had a good joke, but I didn't know if it was racist or nothing. You said, how green is it? And I was like, a mile?
Starting point is 00:16:08 Man, shit. How green is he that he ended up in a situation? like this? How is this 19-year-old, 22-year-old woman now able to line him up in this one? You know what's so funny is that when I did his pot, he said this thing to me. It was so peculiar. He's like, I don't get into the elevator with like, he said single women or was it single white woman? I forget what he said. Just he don't want to be alone with women in the elevator because anything can happen. Don't ride the elevator with single women. Yes, you cannot do that. If a single woman is on the elevator, I got to wait. Wait, why don't you? Because they just get too
Starting point is 00:16:42 horny. No, I don't want to run the risk. Sometimes to run the risk or what? Sometimes the mention. of impropriate is enough to sway people's opinion of somebody. Really? So I don't do that. So if a single woman's going to go into an elevator. I'm not getting on it. And what do they think? I don't like, I don't let, I don't let women's service coming to my room to bring food.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Really? If they come to clean the room, I leave the room, I sit in the hallway till they're done, then I go back into the room. Now, have you ever, like, blown someone's mind with that? Like, has a girl, like, has a girl ever done? No, they just, I mean, a lot of time when people see them, like, okay, you can get on. I was like, no, I'll wait to the other. No, it's fine. And I just, I just keep it moving like.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And do you think that they're thinking there's like some reverse racism thing there? No, I don't know what they're thinking. Do you clutch your purse when white women walk around? No, my cross body? No. Because if they get, if they get, if they get, if they get, if they get, if they get, if they get, if I'm on the elevator by myself and a woman steps on, I'll get off. White women only are black women? It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And, and I felt like, I felt really bad in that moment. Like I was telling Al when we were doing, uh, flagon, I was like, I felt really bad. I was like, wow, this is another like racial dynamic that I don't understand. Like, he's a large, muscular black dude. and he has to be concerned going through his everyday life that a random woman could feel threatened and then like call the cops and you can end up in jail for absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I was like, there's a level of racism to this. I don't even fucking understand. I think that's a level two or two, but I think it's just a level of success, period. Yeah, and absolutely level success, period. But then I see this shit. I'm like, what the fuck you? You can't be worried about an elevator
Starting point is 00:18:07 but then talking a growing only fan. That's my point. They make money by selling sex. That's my point. So if they're fucking you, please believe you're paying for it. You're paying for one way or another. But this is...
Starting point is 00:18:19 Maybe he said that to you because he was going through this happening. Ah. Yeah, but Tony Buzzbee said they have been contacting him since February. I mean, just keep in mind. If you're talking to any girl and only fans, this is bound to happen to you.
Starting point is 00:18:31 This is 100% guarantee. I don't know, I don't know why any guy would do this with a girl in only fans outside of fact their fucking melt your balls. But I'd say... I don't get it. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I tell you this. I don't get it. I have never seen. I don't know the last time I've seen somebody handle something like this so bad. Wait, why do you think he handled it poorly? Oh, my God. I mean, first of all, number one,
Starting point is 00:18:57 when the person has that much audio of you, a person has that many text messages of you, a person has alleged video of you, you know what you should be doing after you get sued? Shutting the fuck up. Oh, it's just going right. It's shutting the fuck up. Let the courts handle everything.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Let your lawyer handle everything. You shouldn't be making those statements. You shouldn't have, you damn sure shouldn't have your lawyer doing a press conference saying, I can't believe she filed this lawsuit because we were about to settle with her for $10 million. Huh? Yeah, that's crazy. And I was surprised when I first heard this. I thought Lanny Davis misspoke. Fairly early in the conference call, he mentioned that Shannon Sharp during efforts to settle the case before the lawsuit was filed offered tens of millions of dollars to the plaintiff.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And he used that phrase several times, tens of millions of dollars. And I, along with other people who were on the call, asked questions. The way it worked was you typed your question in. You didn't actually verbally express the question. So you type the question, you send it, and you wait for them to answer it. Multiple people who are on that call asked the question of, is it tens of millions or is it 10 million? What's the number specifically? So eventually, after saying tens of millions several times, Landy Davis said that Shannon Sharp offered
Starting point is 00:20:14 at least $10 million to settle the case. Now, I practiced law for 18 years. I was stunned by that. What you mean? That was bad. That right there is an omission of guilt. It don't mean he's guilty. But listen, first of all, anytime you're settling,
Starting point is 00:20:35 it looks like an omission of guilt. And when you're settling for $10 million, you're telling people, I know I did something that's worthy enough of me settling. I disagree. He works for Disney. He's like, hey, even though I think this is all bullshit, but I think he's just like, I don't even want the image of me choking some girl to be out there.
Starting point is 00:20:59 What do you mean choking the girl? He's accused of rape. No, but they have a video of the sex that they had. And I bet you on the video is the choking stuff. So he's like, hey, I work for the mouse. I don't even want this out there. It's worth paying her. The mouse isn't even where Shannon makes all of his bread and butter.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I'm just saying. Like, no. When you pay once, guess what happens? Everybody comes out to play. Did he is proof of that? Michael Jackson is proof of that? This is what I assume Busby's doing is like dropping this and to see if there's, it's basically breadcrumbs. It's like anybody else can come out.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Busby said he wasn't going to. Busby said the only reason he put that stuff out is because of how Shannon Sharp didn't respond to when they put her name out there. when they started to put her text messages out there. He said he put all this other stuff out there because of how they were trying to discredit her. Once again, that's why you shut the fuck up. Here the thing. Shannon knows whatever the relationship was
Starting point is 00:21:56 with him and that young lady. Maybe he wasn't aware of the text messages. Maybe he wasn't aware of the video. I don't know. I don't see how he couldn't have been. What do you mean he wasn't aware of it? Maybe she did all, maybe she had these screenshots and he didn't know. Maybe she videotaped him and he didn't know.
Starting point is 00:22:10 That's the only explanation I could think of. of why you would come out so hard after you've been sued like that. But you don't, haven't we seen people get killed in the court of public opinion? Who gives a fuck? While you're just trying to be quiet and let the courts deal with it?
Starting point is 00:22:25 Who gives the fuck? I mean, his career. Who, if you're innocent, who gives a fuck? Everything will come out, and you will come out clean in the long run. This is, who gives a fuck? Completely separate thing here, but like, let's say she drops the charges, right?
Starting point is 00:22:41 How many new signups you think she got on her only advance? Yeah. I bet you she quadrupled her only fans just from the buzz of this. Well, guess what, Andrew? I respect her because she showed more emotional intelligence in the last 48 hours than Shannon Sharp and this whole team. She hasn't said shit. Not a fucking word. I realize why y'all fumble money all the motherfucking time. And I realize why people fumble opportunity all the time because people are ridiculous. Tell me, tell me. What do you mean? a lack of emotional intelligence because they care too much about what the court of public opinion things as opposed to the court of law. You're being sued for $50 million and you know that your attorney
Starting point is 00:23:25 already tried to settle for $10 million. So, and you're doing a video comparing yourself to Jay Z? He didn't settle? His attorney tried to settle for 10. Are you listening? Yes. Oh, I thought that that's what his attorney offered $10 million. His lawyer did a press conference and said he was shocked that they sued because they were approaching a settlement for $10 million that she turned down. To not release the sex tape. To not come out, period, with the story. I thought it was to not release it. No, if it's to not come out with the story,
Starting point is 00:23:55 then it seems like an admission of guilt, which I know he's not saying that he did anything, but that would be how it is digested by the audience. He don't want to show it. Exactly. Exactly. The concern is, if you cancel. Exactly. The public opinion might view it.
Starting point is 00:24:10 A lot of times in settlement cases, when somebody settles, public opinion is this admission of, hey, I did this wrong. What a lot of people don't realize is that if things go to court, it could be really expensive, and it's actually cheaper to settle than it is to continue. And usually with the settlement, you say, hey, you can't talk about this case at all. And now, in your mind, the case goes away. And then inevitably, somebody leaks it, et cetera. But I understand that logic. And when it comes to the shakedown aspect, it's been a griff for several years now. Like, these lawyers will reach out to your team,
Starting point is 00:24:41 And these lawyers will say, hey, this person has these allegations. If you don't, you know, give us a settlement or, you know, we come to some type of agreement. We're going to hold press conferences and go to the media and blah, blah, blah. That's right. To fame you through an allegation. And the fucked up thing is that you can't sue them for defamation because they're the one making the accusation. It's like disgusting abuse of the legal system. And it's been going on for a long, long, long, long time.
Starting point is 00:25:04 So that's what I'm saying. If that's how it would have played out, wouldn't it be smart of him to settle and just deal with- Not if I'm innocent. No, but. I don't care. I truly, honestly. But what Al's saying is that the collateral damage of you being proven innocent might cost you more.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I believe too much in the universe. And maybe I'm stupid. I'm with you, bro. Maybe I believe too much in the truth. I mean, I really do. We go on a court. That's right. We go on a court.
Starting point is 00:25:32 John. That's right. What about him? Allegation. And then he gets proven guilty on just a small portion of what they were charging him for. But he got found guilty. Okay, and that's the thing. He doesn't want to take this to court.
Starting point is 00:25:45 It seemed like they were just having kinky sex, and he probably chokes her during sex. I think we're all missing the point, though. He does not need to be in this situation. He put himself in this situation by being 54 years old. Oh, no, absolutely. Fucking with a 19-year-old only fan model. Let's back us all back up for a second.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Let's back up. Discipline and stability. Discipline stability. At 54 years old, 56 years. You should be laid up with your wife of 15, 20 years. Y'all should have a few kids, probably some grandkids. Maybe some grandkids. Y'all both should be deciding who's going to go to CVS
Starting point is 00:26:22 to get your goddamn cholesterol, medication. Y'all statin. Seriously. Staten, run. Y'all should be complaining about your eyesight together. Yes. You know what I mean? Y'all should have been doing hot yoga during the day.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Like, discipline and stability. I agree. I don't even want to be, I don't even want to focus on Shanna Sharp in this situation. I want to focus on men. lacking discipline and stability. How many people are we going to see fall because they lack the discipline?
Starting point is 00:26:50 You're out here. How many? You're hooking up with these only fans, girls. They're going to, this is going to happen. Every single one of them is going to do a version of this to either behind the scenes or in front of everybody, every single person. And I don't even understand why the fuck they do it. What you mean?
Starting point is 00:27:09 I don't understand why they're even going for these dogs. 25,000 a cheek. That's what the girl said. The girl said $25,000 a cheek. Also, man, Shaluta, I just really can't believe how green Shannon was in this situation. Did you see the text messages, bro? Did you see the text messages when she told him no means no? I asked to wear a condom.
Starting point is 00:27:32 That shit looks so set up, bro. That shit looks so. But why would you fall for that? What did he say back to it? Can I call you? Can I call you later? That's what he says. Can I call you later?
Starting point is 00:27:43 That's literally what he text back. I'm, I'm really, it's just disappointing to see. I'm not even going to lie, you know. It's just disappointing. Not unk. I just want us as men to have more discipline. And you know, I love the fact that this Monique audio was going viral because everything Monique was saying to him was absolutely true.
Starting point is 00:28:04 If they're a sex worker, just know when you have sex with them, that's work. And you're going to have to pay for it. It's not an internship. That's what they do for a living. You're going to have to pay for it. Let's hear it. Let's hear a big mo. Let's hear a big mo.
Starting point is 00:28:20 You know, 26-year-old girl. You don't need no 36-year-old girl. I mean, this is your aunt. He's talking to you. Take your old ass and get you an old bitch out there that can love you old. You're trying to hang out with these young bitches and you can't do it. You just can't do it. She's not wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:35 She's not wrong. You ain't wrong when you're right. A great man once said you ain't wrong when you're right. You're not wrong at all. Listen, all of you guys, and I'm consistent in this, we've had this conversation on the podcast before, all you guys that are 40-plus years old, 50-plus years old, be out here running around these 19-year-olds, early 20-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:28:53 That shit is not the flex you think it is, yo. Listen, I'm telling you right now. What you think it is. You are crazy if you do this. If you're messing with a sex worker, you're going to get worked, simple as that. Is he a sex worker at all? You know, she got an only-fans.
Starting point is 00:29:06 If you're an only-fans, you're a sex worker? If you're an only-fans, you're a sex worker. And sex worker is too kind. I think we have to go back to the traditional term. I think horse is... Nah, no. Because I'm just show lingerie. If she was a 39-year-old sex worker,
Starting point is 00:29:19 if she was a 39-year-old person or only fans, I wouldn't give a flying fuck. The fact that Shannon Sharp is 54 and got into this with a 19-year-old... But when Bill Belichick does it, it's fine? No. Let's talk about that. I'm glad you bought that up.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Thank you. Pull up how old Billichick's girlfriend. Pull up how old she is. While she's pulling that up, how come when the Jay-Z allegation came out, you like the fact that he immediately came out and said something. Because you knew the Jay-Z shit was Cap. It was less than 12 hours, and there was tons and tons of fucking evidence against Shannon. It was text messages.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Video. But what if he feels like, oh, this is Kat. This is the shape-down. Alex, how can it be Cap when you know all this shit exists? When you know the video exists, when you know the audio exists, when you know the text messages? They're accusing him of rape. And he had consensual sex. Jay Z said he didn't even know the woman.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Shannon knows he knows this woman. I'm saying it's not the identical situation. But if he's saying... Listen to what I'm saying. Shannon knows this stuff exists. You know the audio exists. You know the video exists. You know the text messages.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Shut the fuck up. I think it's a different... I understand what you're trying to say, but I think it's a very different situation because if Jay Z's like, I don't even know this person, it's very different than if you have had sexual intercourse or somebody. And listen, there's a lot of people out there that are desperate. maybe the only fans wasn't really popping and who knows like you don't you don't know what people are
Starting point is 00:30:43 capable of doing second you start selling your body uh you know who knows what you can do after that like you can't return from selling your body into society and in a normal functional way there's a scarlet letter that's put on you whether we like to admit it or not yeah we can try to like sanctify and like clean the slate of people who have been involved in sex work but the reality is it it's i think society punishes it in the long term you know so it's like and there's a lot of desperation and anger behind that. Now, let's talk about this.
Starting point is 00:31:14 This is the brewing idiot is part of the show. Okay. More so, idiot. How old is she? 24. He's 73. Yeah. When the person is 70-plus years old
Starting point is 00:31:25 and the woman is 24, I'd be like, what's wrong with her? What? I don't look at him and say, what's wrong with him? Yeah. I say, why does she want a 73-year-old? But I know why.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Fucking hog is crazy. The offensive line is crazy. Pull up Bill Belichick's network. Put up, pull up Bill Belichick. Pull up Bill Belichick's net worth. Board shorts. Put them up in a board shorts. You don't think that Bill Belich got a big dick?
Starting point is 00:31:51 I have no idea. Would you wear a tank top sweatshirts if you had a small bean? $70 million, bro. Okay. You don't think Shannon got $70 million? I think what Bill is doing is disgusting, too. Who is? Shannon's shirt.
Starting point is 00:32:03 How the fuck was he going to give her tent? Come on, cow, that's crazy You're going to get 10 to 14 Put me in jail Fuck that, bro No, I think what Bill Belichick is doing is nasty too But I still look at how
Starting point is 00:32:21 Why does she want a 73-year-old That shit is fire, bro 74 years old Yo, you're going to be 74 one day, right? With me and my old wife living life She's going to give you a hall pass Since some 24-year-old Boom, boom, going to walk down the street
Starting point is 00:32:34 dripping and try to throw that wet on you. Why don't you think you all keep up with that, what do you mean keep up? I'm on my back, looking at them tits firm. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Andrew is trying. Give it that popcorn.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Andrew, like, you're tired of all of the black guys getting caught up. Like, let me be the white guy that gets caught up. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. You sound like Shannon on club and stuff. What are you talking about? I like when they bust them up. I like when them young guys walk down the street.
Starting point is 00:33:03 That's how you sound. Right now. Keep it up. Keep it up. I'm a happily married man, a father, a loving provider. And that is the moral of the story. I believe in disability. Wait, what was the shit? Discipline and stability. Discipline stability. Actually, I believe in disability too. Facts.
Starting point is 00:33:22 If you ever get caught up with a shit like that, I can't even walk, man. Me neither. I'm crippled. I don't know what the fuck? Who did what? How did I do it? How did I hold her down? I couldn't hold her down. I couldn't hold her down. What are you talking about? What do you mean? She took advantage of me. She took advantage of me.
Starting point is 00:33:42 You know, Austin, he has three. Y'all tried to burn this shit. We're not mature enough to have this conversation. I told you this was the brilliant idiot part of the show. We're not mature enough. Okay, come on now. By the way, did you know he had three children? Yes, I did.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Who has three children? Two daughters, Shannon. Yes, he does have three children. I believe. This is not about Shannon. This is about men having a lack of discipline and a lack of stability. Stay away from OnlyFans. That is what I want us to learn from this conversation.
Starting point is 00:34:14 When you're looking at this Shannon's Sharp story and you're having conversations about this Shannon Sharp story, just think about how he got himself in this situation. My daddy used to say it all the time. Trouble is easy to get into and hard to get out of. And this is an example of that situation. He got so many different warnings. You heard what Monique told him.
Starting point is 00:34:34 shit last week when we was on Bernie Nidious and I heard him talking to Funny Marco. I was like, Shannon, got to stop talking like that. Really? You got to stop talking about, you know, young girls busting it open. And listen, you can say whatever you want. You call me PC to God all you want.
Starting point is 00:34:48 That was me 20 plus years ago. Talking like that. Imagine if I'd still been talking like that and I at 46 years old, how stupid I would look. So imagine how incredibly dumb I would look sniffing a seat at 56. That'd be fine. You'd be like, what's the fucking wrong?
Starting point is 00:35:02 So dope. That'd be five. Just entertainment. That'd be fire! You know what? Whoever sues you, I hope they take WTO. No, no, no, no, no. That's fucked up to put out that.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I will say this. The best sniff I ever saw you do is when Flame and Roe got up. And you... That was when I was trying to be inclusive. I was, you know... Yo, when you took that huff, I saw you breathe out of your mouth. That was crazy. Flame, don't quit this because you know it ain't true.
Starting point is 00:35:32 That never happened. Flame. He sniffed that seat and smelled that badusi. Ugh. What? What, Taylor? We can't sniff some baddussie off of that stuff? Would people look at this situation if it was a trans?
Starting point is 00:35:47 Say again? Would people look at this situation different if it was a trans? Yeah, of course. We would understand some of his outfits. Okay, that's not a good way to look at it. Yeah, I think it would be more inclusive, more understanding. All I know is... Is he get out of it?
Starting point is 00:36:01 Say what? Do you think he could get out of it? I think he does get out. What do you mean get out of it? What does get out of it mean? Why do you think people, he could say the girl, like you said? Are you say, do you think, I don't think he did it. And I, but I'm also the type of person is I don't want to hope that somebody did something like that.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I don't want there to be a victim of a crime like that. So I always am going to go, I don't think that person perpetrated that disgusting act. Because I don't want there to be a victim of that act. Yeah, I'm not here to. So I am here for Shannon. And if you're believing Shannon is guilty, what are you truly believing right here? I want to believe that the innocent man is innocent. Yeah, I'm not here to talk about whether Shannon is innocent or guilty.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I really don't know. I'm just simply saying, how did he get, we should pay attention to how he got into this situation. I think that's a great point. So, like, again, first of all, innocent to Brune guilty, 100%. And also, we want him to be innocent. This is like a really important thing. Let me just get the whole thing out. We want him to be innocent.
Starting point is 00:37:00 And that's, like, important for the internet. Like, piling on somebody who's famous is going through this is really fucked up. And a lot of times people just want to see a successful person get humbled. But what is the cost of that, that a woman ends up getting, like, rape? That's not what you. You have to think about what you're saying, not you. One is saying when they support it.
Starting point is 00:37:15 So we believe Shannon is innocent. The justice system believes Shannon is innocent until anything else happens. But I think what Charlemagne is saying is you want to know how to avoid these situations? Yes. Don't put yourselves, don't be fucking 19-year-old girls would only. When you're 54 years old. And you have daughters. I wouldn't do it at any age if I was just giving advice to you.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I'd stay away from the only fans, bro. My advice is fine you a woman. Yo, Kendrick Lamar said it the best. Don't let no what? No, he said, you better off with one woman everything tricky out here. Yo. It's my greatest infinity phone. This, I was about to say it.
Starting point is 00:37:57 It's the greatest. I was about to say it. This wedding ring is the great thing. greatest infinity stone ever. Discipline instability, I'm telling you. Do you know why your wedding ring goes on your left hand? Do you know why it goes on a man's left hand? Because we beat off with the right. Oh. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha. I mean, it's true. That is true. I don't know. That sounds, that's sound logic to me. You go to, you go to the hell. That's what they used to do. They used to drown lefties, right? It was a big issue with the left hand of people. Discipline and stability. Disability. Why, when Steve Shannon Sharp is being shook down, yes, but he gave people something to shake.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Don't give them anything to shake. Don't give them nothing to shake. You have to have disability. Discipline instability. If an only fan's girl DMs you, do you DM her back or do you do disability? Yes. Yes. Right?
Starting point is 00:38:50 I'm not here. I'm not here to have no conversation. Right? You're about to DM and you go, no, disability. Right? You've seen the videos of the girls with Down syndrome with the big. half high. That's so crazy. My whole feed is that. Really? Yes. Really? Yes. That's so crazy. I got a home girl who keeps sending me those video. Well, you know it's a filter, right? It is. There's a Down syndrome
Starting point is 00:39:13 filter that you can put on girls. With the Nelly playing, the country grandma? Well, you could put whatever filter you want. That's crazy. We go in down, down, baby, your street is. That's crazy. I did not know that. Wow. But listen, all I'm simply trying to tell people, and I really want y'all to take this way, because I'm not here to prosecute Shannon's shop, I'm not even trying to have that conversation. Free Shannon. All I'm simply saying, I don't know if it's free him either. I don't know whether he's innocent. I don't know whether he's guilty. All I know is innocent. Innocent, he's avoid these type of situation. What I'm saying is at this current juncture, he's an innocent man. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a lot of due process. It's not even a criminal case.
Starting point is 00:39:56 So there we go. By the way, that's another conversation we never have, right? Yes. When we have these conversations about civil, right? And we could talk about, you know, whether or not
Starting point is 00:40:06 the woman should have pressed criminal charges, whatever. But when we had these conversations about civil, I think the reason we end up trying to prosecute people in the court of public opinion because they're not going
Starting point is 00:40:15 to ever be prosecuted in the court of law. We don't know if he will be. But as of right now, he's not. I think we just like seeing successful people fail. So why do successful people put themselves in positions to fail?
Starting point is 00:40:26 Well, I think the humans are flawed, man. Shout out Jesus. Shout out Jesus. I don't think we give a shout out to Jesus, by the way. We are all sinners, and he has died for our sins. We keep saying Jesus' sin, but what sin did Jesus do? No, he did not sin. He is the perfect man.
Starting point is 00:40:40 He died. A perfect man died for our sins. That's some bullshit, y'all. We got to stop this. Yo. I know we, I know this. I know easy to the past, but we got to stop. Yo.
Starting point is 00:40:55 You know what y'all are saying whenever? you know what y'all say that what is that jesus died for nothing what you mean he died because y'all still sinning y'all don't even try to even remote not all because there's a lot of people who do but most people don't even try to remotely live up to the example that jesus set well look at this charlemagne you got a strive you were born a sinner why it is your burden why did i open my mouth when i was coming out the womb huh what what what is why was i born a sinner yo Why was I born in the center? What did I do?
Starting point is 00:41:29 You probably had your mouth open while you were in the womb. You know, hoping some dick popped up in there like, ah, I get the tip of it. By the way, you know that, you know, you know, you know that's how studs are born, right? That's how studs are born. You know, you never, you always want that taste. If you come out the womb with your mouth open, you come out, I always want that. If you came out ass first, you was probably gay. No, no, you know why they made the doctor stop slapping the boys on the
Starting point is 00:41:57 there because they're like in it. That's our thoughts. We're not mature enough to have this. We're not mature enough to have this conversation. But in all seriousness, and you need to listen, Charlemagne, I'm saying, we will not be mocking Jesus on this podcast. I'm not making Jesus. I love Jesus.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I'm just simply saying, and by the way, when I said that, I heard Jesus saying, talk that talk. Jesus knows that we don't even try to live up to the example that he set. And we use his death. We use his death. as an excuse to sin. And you know who else does that? Gang bangers on podcast.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Gang bangers on podcast always want to lie and be like, on the dead homie. We always putting it on the dead homie. Name Jesus. Stop it. We do. Stop it. Stop doing that.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Jesus is served better. He was pierced for our transgressions. He was crushed for our iniquities. The punishment that brought us peace was on him. And by his wounds, we are healed. We all like sheep have gone astray. Each of us has turned to our own way, and the Lord has laid on him the inequity of us all. He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth.
Starting point is 00:43:08 He was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before it shears is silent. So he did not open his mouth. Jesus is like, I don't know these motherfuckers that y'all got me dying for. And when I look down, I don't like none of these motherfuckers. Hey, none of them living the way that we want them to live. But they're walking around with me on their neck. You're spikful. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:32 They out here talking about what would Jesus do? Yes. But don't do anything I would do. We credit the fuck out, man. We can only try. We can only try. No, he didn't try. He lived.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah, he was God's kid. And? So are we. No, we're not. That's not true. No. We're all God's children. We are made in his image.
Starting point is 00:43:50 No. We are not his one and only son. We are made in his. image, but we are not his one and only son. He gave the world his one and only son. I don't believe it. I just don't believe. Okay, you can go to hell. I just don't believe that. I just don't believe we are all God's. So why does the Bible say we all God's children? It does say that. No, it says we are made in his image. No, it says we're all God's children. Look it up. Look it up. It says we're all God's children. See? Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Listen in this.
Starting point is 00:44:22 So, listen, you see how y'all spend time trying to justify why it's okay for y'all to sin? Instead of just striving to actually do what Jesus did. I'm married. You know me. I'm good. What do you mean? God never said you couldn't make fun of retards. John 1213. Yet to all who did receive him to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Children born not of natural descent. know of human decision are a husband's will, but born of God. We are all children of God. John, what is that? 112, 13. Now, y'all better start, what would Jesus do? You better start living like them and stop putting it on the dead homie. Okay?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Y'all love putting it on the dead homie, but not living the way the dead homie would have lived. Stop. Do you want the gang members to live the way the dead homie would have lived? No, I ain't talking about them dead homies. I'm talking about the big dead homie. The big jay. Big J. Okay. Big Jay.
Starting point is 00:45:20 All right? Yeah. So crazy, man. Shout out Jesus, though. You're the man. Salute to Jesus, man. Salute to Jesus, man. Salute to Jesus, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Give your life to Jesus Christ. Give your life your wife. Discipline instability and all I'm here to preach for the rest of my life. And listen, you don't got to listen to me, okay? I'm just going to be out here being living proof of what? Being a faithful man who loves his wife will do for you. Amen. And you need to start preaching that too. I do preach this. You're, I'm telling you, he's the only one. I know we're trying to get married. If you were married, you'd have 10 WTF studios. Already.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Huh? He don't want to get married because he's scared his wife won't get deported. That's fact. You said, that was crazy. You what did I say? You'd be a really fucking face. I don't know why you'd be crazy. By the way, Shannon Sharp, that's the only, you asked me who can save him? calling ice. That woman's name is what? What is her name? You know when they fight what he plays in his house, right? Her name is something zoo nigger, huh? Do you know what he... I'm not even joking. That's her name. Abby, I don't know how to say it. That's her name. Okay, pull it up and let's see if Andrew can pronounce it.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Let's pull it up. I shouldn't even have said nothing. I shouldn't even have said nothing. I've been waiting for this moment. I've been waiting for this morning. Let's go. Let's go. Pull that shit up. Put it in balls. Put it in bold, let's go! Oh my God. Yep, her name is... No, you know what, no, let's not. Let's not do it. I got it right there.
Starting point is 00:47:02 We're going to bleep it anyway. Her name is Gabby Zunij. A is silent. It's a silent A, guys. I know how to speak other languages. Unlike y'all. Okay, that's how you pronounce that name. Oh, on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Oh, man. Okay, let's pay some bills, man. Yes, discipline and stability, y'all. What else we got going on? Taylor Gang. We got some church announcements. What you got, has a Kyle Walker. This week, I want you all to go watch The Last of Us.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Ooh. The Last of Us is a phenomenal TV show on HBO or Max or whatever the fuck it's called. Keep your hand about that. It's based on a video game that I played as a way to. to detach from reality while my wife and I were struggling with our fertility journey. I got addicted to it. I played the first one. Then they put out a second one.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I played the second one. The second season of Last of Us has just come out. The second episode, I think, is one of the best episodes in the history of television. I won't say anything more. I have no way of benefiting from this outside of you guys watching an incredibly good show. Go watch. Go indulge. Watch the first season.
Starting point is 00:48:17 If you haven't seen it, binge it. And then get invested in the second season. It's absolutely phenomenal. Charlemagne, what you got cook? Oh, my simple. announcement is this, this Saturday, the third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival is happening in Atlanta, Georgia at Pullman Yards. Man, if you know anything about the Black Effect Podcast Festival, you know that it is a day
Starting point is 00:48:36 of just celebration of podcast culture, you know what I'm saying? Not just the entertainment of podcast culture, but the business of podcast culture as well. Some of your favorite podcasts are going to be on that stage. We've got the Trap Nerds podcast for all the gamers out there. Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast will be there for all the moms who still want to have a life, too. the Naked podcast hosted by Carrie Champion. Tank and Jay Valentine will be on that stage with the R&B Money podcast. Just added,
Starting point is 00:49:02 Cam Newton will be there doing his Funky Fridays podcast live on that stage, and Sarah Jakes Roberts will be doing her Woman Evolve podcast live on that stage. These podcasts got guests on them, too. I don't think we can announce to guests. Are we allowed to announce the guests? Yeah, I don't want to announce the guests, but all of these people will be having different guests on their podcast. So blackfeck.com slash podcast festival is still a few tickets.
Starting point is 00:49:24 left. All the VIP and the meet and greet is sold out. I don't know how much more general admission or student tickets are left, but go to black effect.com slash podcast festival. Get your tickets. It's all hosted by Mandy and Weezy, Decisions, Decisions. We got the Black Effect marketplace out there, so all the merchandise will be there. I actually am going to have a black privilege booth out there. So you can buy all of the books on Black Privilege Publishing, including Weasie and Mandy's upcoming book, No Holes Barred. Okay, so you can pre-order that while you're there.
Starting point is 00:49:57 What else we got? The picture podcast, activation from Nissan. The who? The panel. Oh, we got panels. Yeah, we got panels for people who want to learn the business of podcasting, they learn how to create podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:09 We got panels on mental health, of course. A lot of good stuff, man. It's a black family reunion. You already know what it is. I mean, it's just a family reunion, period. Pull up. We're going to have your fans out there. We can do some lines.
Starting point is 00:50:19 dancing, all type of good stuff. So go to black effect.com slash podcast festival, get your tickets, and we'll see you this Saturday at the third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. Let's get back to the show. Positively Brilliant this week. What? All memes necessary. Oh, all memes necessary.
Starting point is 00:50:36 What we got? We got a couple of those. Give me a couple. Give me some good ones, mate. What we got, mate. Anthony Edwards has exchanged with heckle a during playoff game. I thought this was whack. fucking find Anthony Edwards, $50,000.
Starting point is 00:50:52 What they're going to find the fan? The fan can talk shit to me, but I can't talk shit back to the fan? I think we got to have a real discussion, which is if we let the fans say anything without any repercussions, and the only thing you can really do is tell the fan that they're banned for life
Starting point is 00:51:07 from the stadium or ban for the rest of the season or whatever. There's only three more games. But if the fans can say whatever they want to the players, the players have to have some form of responding. Yes. I'm not saying that they can just like scream racial epithets or something like that. But like, I suck my dick is appropriate. Didn't he say stuck my dick? I think he said my dick's bigger than you. Let's play. Let's hear. All right. Now, hold on now. Now, time out now. Now, I'm going to tell you what I heard. I couldn't be wrong.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Anthony Edwards was sticking up for Rudy Gobert. I guess the fan was heckling Rudy go abe. And Anthony is saying, yo, he got $200 million, $200 million. Rudy corrects him and says $300 million. I keep hearing the fan saying, where you're your dick at. And so Anthony, he's like, my dick right here. Seems like a biological. Exactly. Why, you keep asking me what my dick at? My dick right here. What's the problem?
Starting point is 00:52:09 He said my dick's bigger than New York. Who said that? The fan? No, I was. I'm trying to, I'm kind of like wondering if it's... Listen, at the end of the day, they are employees of a company. If they, these basketball players... Well, the employer and need to protect the employees.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I agree, 100%. I don't know the way to do that. But they are employees of a company. Like, if you work for Chase... or if you work for six flags, let's say you work for six flags. You're the person that's putting people on a roller coasters. And so I'm going to roller coaster goes, ah, fuck you, you suck dick. And then that person that's doing a roller coaster that goes, my dick is bigger than you
Starting point is 00:52:41 or suck my dick. That person probably gets fired. So I wonder if there are just different rules for athletes than there are for fans. And it's an unfortunate, ugly situation, but you are still making $300 a million to bounce a ball. So maybe this is just one of those things you got to put up with. It seems unfair, but I don't know. What do you guys think? I think it's very unfair.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I think it's very unfair that they can talk shit to the players and the players can't say anything back to them. It's not like they're running in the stands to fuck them up the way Ron Ottess and Stephen Jackson did. And I think it's good for the sport. Low key. I think it's good for the sport. It's interactive.
Starting point is 00:53:15 You guys are celebrities. People say crazy shit in your comments all day and you don't reply because why? Nah, this is different though. Why? Because it's the comments. Who gives a fuck about the comments? We in real life.
Starting point is 00:53:26 It's like the guy who ran up on the Mard de Rose in at the restaurant. Huh? Paying what? They're not paying... I mean, I understand on a human level, but the whole reason these guys are getting paid these outsized contracts is
Starting point is 00:53:43 because people are... It's part of an ecosystem that people are paying money to be part of. Once you shut that off, what these NBA guys? I've played what? You know, 30,000 hours of basketball, so, you know, like, there's no value in it. There's only value because these people are paying money And part of that experience is to feel like you're talking shit.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I'm sure it's incredibly frustrating and annoying. But can be allowed it? Go, go. Who the fuck believes Chris has ever played 30,000 hours? I see it in a lot. I see it a lot of basketball. I see it play. 30,000 hours of basketball.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Really? No, this guy hoops. This guy fucking hoops. Really? D3 starter. What does that mean? I started on a very bad D3 team. Oh, E3 starter.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I thought you were doing a radio. D3. Huh? What do you say? What do he say? Sheldon, what do you say? So what did he say? He just hung the mic.
Starting point is 00:54:43 It's a live mic. But he just hung it somewhere because he's like, I'm out of this shit. I'm done. I am done. I submit. And I don't want anything to do with this. He came up. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Keep going. What do you do it? I'm going to create a cool situation. Chris, I agree with you, but the players don't get paid to get shit talk to them. You can't abuse me. I don't like that reasoning where just because I'm rich, just because I'm making money, I should just be allowed to be abused. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Keep going. Have you ever been to a sporting event where people, that's part of the experience is what I'm saying. But that's what I mean. So I'm not saying the fans shouldn't be allowed to talk shit. I'm saying that the players should be allowed to talk shit back without getting fine. Anthony else got fine 50 grand for that. But you can't grab your dick because there's children there.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Don't grab your dick. He's asking with my dick. He's screaming about my dick. So. Play the kid. He's like, where's your dick? I think that there's unfortunately higher standards for the players than there are for the fans. It doesn't mean you can't say something back, but say something back within the limits. Ronnie did it right.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Your change fake. Exactly. Like you could say stuff back like, yo, you're broke. You're ugly. Yeah. You know? What if Biggie Smalls was playing? Grab your dicks.
Starting point is 00:55:59 if you love hip, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, what not? What's the problem? There's kids there. They are kids there. And you're marketing to children, and you don't want to have an environment where the players are just lashing out
Starting point is 00:56:11 and cursing at the fans. It sucks that the fans do that. But again, there has to be levels of what the players can say back, and if the fan gets caught saying that, they're most likely going to get kicked out. I come from the era with players was always talking shit to fans
Starting point is 00:56:25 when they're talking shit. I remember Dennis Robin kicking the cameraman. He could. would have said that same shit and then if he didn't grab his dick, I'm sure he would have been fine. The fact that he grabbed his dick in front of kids is, is. He's someone who needs to listen to the messaging that you're there. Discipline and stability. He's a guy with tremendous talent, but if you look at the choices, he makes off court the things he says, stuff like that, it's like, bro, just. You know the difference though, Chris? You're right. Anthony else is 23 years.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And he's young. He's young. Like, that is the difference. But he's got the money. Now it's the time 50-year-old, so he's got to figure it out. I don't know what he's saying to cause that. He's saying, where you dick at? Why would the guy in the audience ask where your dick at? Are they playing Atlanta? Who are they playing? Oh, no, they're playing the Lakers?
Starting point is 00:57:33 It's L.A.? Yo, that's crazy. He might have been flirting with Anthony that whole time and Anthony didn't even realize. Anthony didn't even pick up. long game, man. He was flirting with Anthony the whole fucking time. He started with Rudy Gobert. So clearly the fan is like slightly a gold digger. So he's still, Anthony's like, yo, he got $200 million, $300 million. And so the dude is like, I ain't impressed with the money.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Where the dick at? Where the dick at? Yo, the fan was flirting with Anthony, yo. No, no, you're right. He was flirting with Anthony. Why would you be asking where the dick at? He wanted to know where the dick was at, Anthony showed it to him. And if you notice, he shut the fuck up soon as he saw that fucking dick. That's what he says, are we good? That's crazy. He went home and beat off to Anthony, yeah. But that's up to Anthony.
Starting point is 00:58:24 He can't be letting people beat off to him like that. Don't give him nothing to beat off to. So you guys are good like that. What else we got, Taylor, gang? You are. You're psych. What else we got, Taylor? What else we got, Taylor?
Starting point is 00:58:37 What else we got, Taylor, gang? Y'all want to hear about Kanye or? What did Kanye say? He gave his cousin head. Wait, wait. Let me see what the headline is. I didn't see this story. Kanye West seemingly amidst the performing sexual acts on his cousin.
Starting point is 00:58:54 After they saw two men kissing in an X-rated magazine when they were kids, I sucked my cousin's dick till I was 14. What happened at 14? Oh, he said until he was 14. Yeah, I know. I don't know. I was assuming by the content, I was just using. context clues. I just thought that he was
Starting point is 00:59:12 saying they both were six. They found this magazine and then they started reenacting. That's how I interpret it, but like what happened at 14 that he thought that he should stop that? Your taste buds get a little strong like, you have puberty starts to kick in. Your taste
Starting point is 00:59:28 buds either get stronger and they changed. You don't eat the same things you did when you was a kid. It's the truth to the matter. Let's hear the song. Let's hear the song. That shit sucks, bro. I mean, that shit gay. That shit gay. That shit gay.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Drop that dinkas in Paris behind me. Okay. Yeah, he recently tweeted saying, now that y'all think that I'm gay, can I say the F line? Here's the thing. Kanye is so mad that Shannon Sharp took the headline. Like, you admitted to sucking a cock, right? Early in the week and you had people,
Starting point is 01:00:50 and then now Shannon just took. All the things. Like, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't give a fuck about nothing that Kanye West says. Every week it's something new. A few weeks ago, he was in a black KKK outfit with academics. Last week, he was saying his mother, God bless the dead, was a lesbian. This week he's sucking cock. I don't give a fuck. Everything he does is a publicity stunt. Everything he does is for attention. Also, like, you're really good at making music. Is he? No, I don't know if he's that anymore. Throughout history, he's been doing to make music. So, he's really good to make music. So like, I think it's kind of a cop out to make it a bad song.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Like, you have the ability to make the song catchy, but you scared that if it's catchy, people are just going to be singing how you gave your cousin head all the time. So you put it in like a shitty song. Like, I think that's kind of soft, if you ask me. Yeah, I think he should, if he's going to read. He could have made a slaper. Make a goal really double down, do a whole album.
Starting point is 01:01:42 He sucks. He ate a college cock out. Now we're talking. Late penetration. I've been working. Working the same. That's what the fuck I'm talking about. What was that song?
Starting point is 01:02:00 I've been working a... Which all don't know is that niggas in Paris wasn't about the fucking country. Flai. Paris was the name of a person. Yo, that's a good point. What? That's a great point.
Starting point is 01:02:16 If Paris was a person... It was. Then you're putting that on Jay. Jay didn't know. They didn't know. He's completely injured. You're not the only person can do double entendres. You're triple on tundress.
Starting point is 01:02:28 If Paris is what he calls his mouth. What the, I don't know. It does make a lot of sense. It makes all the sense in the world. And they play that shit nine times in a row. Yo. Yo, can you imagine? Paris is what he called his mouth.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Yo. Paris. Paris is what he called. his mouth is insanity. Gabriela Zunai's in Paris. Oh my God. I suck my cousin's.
Starting point is 01:02:59 I'm going to be honest with you. I saw that headline. I said, what am I supposed to do with this information? Well. I sucked my cousin's dick until I was 14. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:06 I need to know what happened at 14. Did he start nutting? Like, what happened at 14 that he was like, I shouldn't do that anymore? That could be here too. And you know what Kanye did today? He tweeted everybody loves me now. I'm going to make y'all hate me again.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Stop taking this man serious. Stop. Like, why do y'all even pay him any attention? Okay, now I know the jokes are great. The jokes are fantastic, you know what I mean? But I really don't even, I don't even find it funny that he sucked cock till he was 14. I do. Come on, here's the key word, so here's the key word. He said, I sucked my cousin's dick till I was 14. Ever said he stopped sucking dick?
Starting point is 01:03:44 Whoa. He stopped sucking his cousin's dick. I don't think you stopped sucking dick. Once you get that oral fixation, you know what I'm saying? People that used to smoke cigarettes don't stop, they move on to something else, vapes or the nicotine gum, you're always going to have that oral fixation.
Starting point is 01:03:58 That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I think it's messed up that he did that to his cousin because his cousin's locked up. Because he's in jail. Yeah, and he said why he's in jail, so people are going to know. That's messed up.
Starting point is 01:04:13 He didn't get into the car accident at 14, right? Nah. That's probably why I threw the wire. That was so passionate. That was the worst time in life. This is a sucker. That was the worst time his life. That's why he was so passionate on that song.
Starting point is 01:04:31 You know. He was furious. Let me go look at the lyrics of this shit. No, we need to get through the wire. I need to see if we miss something, man. Let me see. Through the wire lyrics, yo. No, I need to see if we miss something.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Oh, my God. He said I spit it through the wire. wire. No, he did. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. He told I spit it through the wire. The doctor said I had blood clots, but I ain't Jamaican, man. Letting you know, I ain't Jamaican. It's okay for me to be a Bati boy. Story on MTV and I ain't trying to make a band. I swear this right here, history in the making man. Nothing really crazy in that. Nah. Yo, speaking of Jamaica's, I was talking to vibes cartel. That's sick. No, I love vibes. I mean, what a, but what a, but what a a legend, like a true legend.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Bibs is a great person. I never had met Bives Cartel, and the thing that I loved about Bives Cartel is what I love about anybody. He just wants to laugh. He's just a funny person. Can you tell me
Starting point is 01:05:38 some of his history and lorder? The shit he said off the mic when he was like, cut the camera. And then he started talking to me about all the shit he's seen me say that he liked. I'm like, oh, bro, I'll fuck with you. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's a, he likes to laugh.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Tell me, tell me, like, I've obviously heard of vibes, but, like, tell me why he had Jamaican culture in, like, a stranglehold, and why he was so. I'm not, like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a big, I've never been a huge reggae artist. There's certain Jamaican dance-all songs that I like, I've never been, like, really, really. My understanding is that, like, he was such a profound cultural figure in Jamaica that there was, like, concern from like politicians and like the elites that he had more power over the people than they did well i've heard that i've seen yeah he said that in the interview and i've recently seen like the comparisons to bob marley i you know i don't know i just i bumped into a guy this weekend
Starting point is 01:06:36 right i was at a restaurant and i noticed the accent i was like where's your accent from and he's like he's like jamaica and i was like um did you go to the vibes concert and uh and this is a guy is probably in 20s and he goes he goes no I didn't go but that's literally my favorite artist like he's and this is a younger guy like think about that this guy's probably known vibe how long was the vibes locked up for 13 years so this is a guy who the majority of his life vibes has been incarcerated and he's still his favorite artist I think as we was talking about it in the interview I think you know going to jail made him larger than life like watching somebody go to jail and fight the case that vibes was facing but always having the faith that he was going to get out
Starting point is 01:07:17 and always proclaiming his innocence, and then you actually see this person come home and he's supposed to be sentenced to life. Forget it. It makes him look, yeah, like, you bigger, you larger than life. But I really slew the vibes, man. He's funny, man. Like, he likes to laugh.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Everything is a joke. You know, that's my kind of people. You know what I'm saying? They're not taking anything serious. No, not at all. I would love to ask him about Kanye's sucking dick. Oh, hell, yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:42 You know what I'm saying? What else we got, Taylor? why would you just tell people you suck the dick till you was 14? I don't know, bro. Like, what was he hoping to get from that? Like, I'm not, it's one thing when you reveal, you know, trauma that you've been through
Starting point is 01:08:00 or situations that you've been through because you're looking to heal from it or your... Attention is a drug. The attention is a fucking drug, and that's why I don't, I'm not giving them nothing. Well, I'm not giving them none. He just...
Starting point is 01:08:11 Sinners! But, hey, I want to say this, though, to all my Jewish brothers, stop telling Kanye suck you dick. Okay? Because he might take you. You're threatening them with a good time. Yeah, okay, that shit.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Micro rap for it. No more Kanye suck my dick. Okay? That has to stop. All right. Okay. Do not threaten them with a good time anymore. What else we got?
Starting point is 01:08:36 What is this, Taylor? I just thought y'all might enjoy this. What is this? It's just something randomly. What is this midget basketball? No, no. I'm just in a wheelchair and then. Oh.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah. What was this? Was this midgets? No, there's kids. These are kids? Yes. You guys are evil. These kids, these kids, you show these kids.
Starting point is 01:09:05 These kids are playing basketball. It's a woman in a wheelchair, a person in a wheelchair playing with them. And she shoots this shot, and he de Kimbe Matumbos, that shit. Fuck all that. Can I just show you something? That's the quality. This is a, this is the beautiful here. I want you to look at the people in the stand.
Starting point is 01:09:19 right? Like watch the people in the stance, right? This is my favorite part. Look at them. Now, you can see their faces. Look at the laugh. This is something, this is something that, like, I can tell you this as like, this is where coming from New York City, coming from New York City, and I don't know if this is like influence of black culture in New York City or if it's just an urban thing, whatever it is, but like, the black people in the crowd right there just saw a kid in a wheelchair get their one shot all season smacked, and they are dying laughing. Why shouldn't they laugh?
Starting point is 01:09:53 If this was a white suburb, the parents would be like, oh, hold on, stop the game, what's going on? This isn't appropriate. And nowadays, with this wokeness and the liberalness, I don't know. It's beautiful. That's equality. But this is, if this is New York City, I don't care what you look like, you're laughing your ass off.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Yes. She should make her, she should be, cross her up or something. Hit the gear. Hit another gear with the fucking wheelchair. Like, you know what I'm saying? Now, if she pumped faked him and he went flying, what if she backed him up? That was a fly.
Starting point is 01:10:21 What if you post him up? What do you mean? Yeah. When I was saying, I played in college, there was a kid who used to come from the neighborhood and just shoot around with us after college. And, you know, you come over and block a shot. It's funny because at one time he'd pump faked me,
Starting point is 01:10:35 I slapped the shit out of him. I, like, went to block it, and I missed, and I slapped him really hard in the face. Was he a handicap? No, but he went and got his brothers. It turned into a whole thing. Like, I really thought, I was never a problem.
Starting point is 01:10:47 So I'm like, don't mess around with wheelchairs, kid shooting. You slapped a kid in the face who was in a wheelchair? No, no. He was like, then he went and got all his brothers? Did your mom get scared? Is that when you moved with your auntie and uncle to Bel Air? Did you leave West Philly after that? Whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Is that what you left with West Philadelphia? This was Pipsy, New York. Yo, Chris slapped a kid in a face. Yo, you were trying to slap him because the wheelchair, they're low. You're not blocking a shot. No, you said in a wheelchair, Stop capping, bro. Stop capping.
Starting point is 01:11:19 That's crazy. Slapped a black child in a wheelchair. A black child in a wheelchair? That is crazy, Chris. And his brothers also were in wheelchairs. They all rolled up on you or what? Holy shit. Did they form like Voltron?
Starting point is 01:11:31 Did they all kind of connect together? Did you tell them you a blood because they had a bunch of crips? What did you do, Chris? How did you get out of this situation? What did you do? Chris, what did you do? How did you get out of it?
Starting point is 01:11:42 I left. You left. They just rolled. rolled out. Chris wrote. He was. People with wheels. You're real?
Starting point is 01:11:51 Oh, is that where the moped shit started? Is that where the mopad shit? Yo, tell his mom, tell his mom brain couldn't get it out. You got a bobby wheel. Chris, you are having issues with wheels, man. Is that what the promise started? That's Chris started. It started with the kid in the wheelchair that you slapped the shit.
Starting point is 01:12:15 that you slapped the shit out of for no reason other than they were in a wheelchair? Jesus Christ. You smacked a kid in a wheelchair in the face. Chris, that homie don't play that, handy, man. Damn. Stop this shit out of them. Chris. What else we got?
Starting point is 01:12:29 Chris, that's fucked up, bro. I was young. Listen, did you see sinners? Not yet, but I really do. Oh, my God. Tell me, tell me. Oh, yeah, you told me you saw it IMAX, right? I did.
Starting point is 01:12:39 You saw sinners, Alex? What did you think? Amazing. Like, fantastic. I say 10 out of 10. I gave it, no, it's definitely a 10 out of 10. You don't explain me to me why? Why, what?
Starting point is 01:12:50 Why do you have to think he said 10 out of 10? This is a great movie. Oh, you saw it too? You didn't like it. Yeah, I didn't say I didn't like it. I just felt like I would change some stuff with the script. Tell me what you would have changed from the script real quick. Without giving the movie away, what would you would have changed?
Starting point is 01:13:02 Well, is it, why he has laughing? I know what you don't like. You know what about the, what about the strong? No, no. The black female lead was phenomenal. Yes. What's her name? Haley Steinfeld, the black female lead was absolutely incredible.
Starting point is 01:13:18 You got to give it up to her. Okay, but I can't... I guarantee that she doesn't know like that. No, no, no, no. But the black female lead, you're not going to give it up to the black female lead? How do I pronounce her name, One Me Musaku? No, the black female lead. No.
Starting point is 01:13:34 The acting was all great. Fantastic. But I would just say how they introduced the action part. I would just want that hinted more in the intro. That was a small... They did. Not necessarily. No, they didn't.
Starting point is 01:13:48 If you think about how they... When you say the action part, you mean like the vampire shit? Yeah. Like, I thought that was how they put it in. That was random. That was like act two of the movie, though. Yeah. They introduced it really well in act,
Starting point is 01:13:58 or the movie. I thought they should have been just a little bit earlier on. I thought you didn't like the fact that Michael B. Jordan lived happily ever after with a white girl. I don't care about that. That girl's black. Who? That girl's black.
Starting point is 01:14:10 I didn't know she was engaged with Josh Allen. Of course, dude. That's crazy. The Chinese spread. rumors too. No, she is black. She really is black? Yeah. She's a quarter black. God. No, she's an eighth black. Eighth black. But what's interesting about it is, and this was, I think, no, no, no, but this is interesting because at the time, I saw like a thing on it, at the time, if you were an eighth black, you were considered black. It actually is a, it's an interesting
Starting point is 01:14:39 look into, like, culture at the time, whereas, like, it was the one drop rule. If you had it even a little black. So she's playing a white passing character who is considered black by the white community. So that was the role. Now, was the role written around the way that she already looks, or did they find someone who could fit that role? But I thought it was really interesting. I didn't watch the movie, but it didn't feel like stunt casting. It felt like an authentic moment where there were people who were mixed at the time, but they weren't accepted into white spaces. But she was, though. That's what, hold on. Let me think. No, they was hiding the fact, sorry, but they were hiding the fact that she had any black
Starting point is 01:15:15 ancestry. They showed that in the movie? No, he said it out loud because they said she would have got kicked out of her community. Remember she... I thought she would got kicked out of her community because they was fucking each other. No. He was fucking a black guy in the 19th century. They found that if she was black, she would have got kicked out of her community. Remember, any piece
Starting point is 01:15:31 black, you're black. But her mom was white and her mom took in the twins when she was younger. Yeah, white people are great. They never said her dad was black? Historically speaking, we do great stuff. I'm grateful. I must have missed that part of the movie.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Wouldn't they explain that shit? Isn't that funny? I really didn't catch that part. We call that white erasure. Okay. You know what Kanye calls white erasure? When he puts a white cock in his mouth, can't even see it no more.
Starting point is 01:15:58 If it's four inches or less, he'd make it disappear. Okay? You think he looks at that dick and he goes, no one man should have all that back. Oh my God, man. We got to go to a Kanye concert now. We got to go to a Kanye concert now because every lyric got a different meaning. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Oh, my God. I want to have used vampires for it. I would have used, like, just a different type of monster. You would have just changed. Why? Vampires was fantastic. I'm just saying, like, from what? Maybe vampires were a metaphor for something.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Okay, so maybe that. But I just didn't see that metaphor with it necessarily. What? That was perfect. First of all, if you don't use vampires. Then he could have made another monster, though. I'm just saying how it was the nightfall, like night played a part in it, what the vampires were offering them.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Because that's what you, the vampire was offering them everlasting life. You just literally got to give up your soul for it. Because what he really wanted was that kid that could fucking play the instrument. But that's, I guess, how I was looking at, too, like, Vampire to attracting the music now? No, it's. That's why I've been charged it. Again, I haven't seen the movie, but I imagine it's some play off of the blues.
Starting point is 01:17:21 They're adopted by white culture, and there's a almost vamp. Not, white people in the movie weren't even playing the blue. They were playing a bluegrass. That's a sound called. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah. No, but it's the idea that there are these people that can come and they can take your culture, and then you can have everlasting success within it, but you no longer own it.
Starting point is 01:17:43 That's what I assume the metaphor is. Is it something like that? Okay. So I think he's using the vampire as a device, not just like, ooh, I need a boogeyman, but like what does a vampire represent? Like, once a vampire bites you, you're theirs forever. And you can exist in perpetuity with that, but you lose your soul, right? That's right.
Starting point is 01:18:00 You lose what makes it special for you. It exists and proliferates forever. But at what cost? The cost is this authenticity. That's why vampires was a perfect monster. There's no other monster that they could have been. No, I, I, I. First of all, it's okay to, like, obviously, everybody can have their opinion about you.
Starting point is 01:18:16 I just think it's really cool that there's a... And again, I'm really interested in seeing the movie, but I think it's really cool that there's somebody who's, like, a real film nerd. Like, you can tell he really loves film, but he's applying it to big box office movies. Man. I think a lot of times you have... The fact that they did this movie, and this original IP,
Starting point is 01:18:39 it's an original story that had a $90 million budget that has made... It had a $40 million budget, but... No, 90. Well, 40 million is what it costs to make the movie, and I think you put another 40 in advertising. No, 90 in the rest in the advertising. Oh, wow. Yeah, the production budget was 90.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Wow. Yeah, the production budget was 90s. I think, I don't, I would say probably another 30. No, usually it's double. It's, they usually double whatever the production. It was 80? Yeah, yeah. So you go, if it costs 90 to make it, you spend 90 in production.
Starting point is 01:19:12 But I guess the point that I'm trying to make is like, There's a lot of people that are like film nerds, right, and music nerds and all these different types of nerds. And then they create shit and they do this like little indie stuff. And the, the process is essentially, if you don't understand it, you don't get it, you're not smarter. I think it's very brave to be that film nerd or film aficionado and apply that acumen to a blockbuster. And the risk that you take to do that, to me, that's a way harder endeavor. So I give a lot of credit to people who will take that skill and take that talent and apply it to these big blockbuster things because the risk of failure is much higher. If you're a little indie film flops, you get to say, oh, you all are too stupid to enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:19:53 But if you make creed, if you make sinners, if you make these things, you're making them for global consumption. It's a harder thing to do and to take your art and apply to that. It's like really fucking cool. And what's so beautiful about sinners. Yes, there's a lot of deeper meanings to the movie, but the reality is, it's a lot of, it's a lot of, don't even got to be that deep if you don't want it to be. It's just enjoyable. This is the thing about like, and this is to me, in my opinion, like highest version of
Starting point is 01:20:17 market, right, is you can make it consumable for the masses that don't know the metaphors and it's still enjoyable. And you can make it consumable for the indie, like, art critic who goes, oh, all these metaphors really make me feel like I'm smart and intelligent and I understand it. And like, what will happen, I imagine with Coogler is when you start making films like this, people start applying their reasoning to it. Like with, I remember with Black Panther, right, this idea, and who knows if this was his idea, if it already existed,
Starting point is 01:20:46 but like remember the suit, it absorbed whatever punishment and then use that at power. You give it back, reject it back, yeah. And then, like, again, maybe this is his idea, but maybe it was the matter, maybe it was other people applying it to it, but they're like, whoa, is that kind of similar to the black experience? It's like we take all this pain and struggle, and then we put that out there in the world,
Starting point is 01:21:03 and it is like a superpower. If that's his idea, awesome, if it's the audience going, this guy's really smart and everything he does is intentional and we're going to put meaning on it, that's awesome too. That's high level art.
Starting point is 01:21:15 And applying high level art to blockbuster shit is hard and he deserves a lot of credit. I'm so impressed by this because, you know, if you read this variety article, right? In this variety article, it talks about how, it talks about how one of the ventures that I've started is Southland Stories.
Starting point is 01:21:34 And she says, Charlemagne has set up a film production adventure with veteran producer FASL. The focus will be on stories rooted in the culture of the South. I believe, and this is my personal opinion,
Starting point is 01:21:47 all the original IP, all of the original titles, the new stories that Hollywood is looking for, exist in the South. I really truly believe that. And not only do they exist in the South, they exist in folklore of the South. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:22:05 The folklore. of the South. There's so much folklore in the movie, sinners. Actually, I'm going to shut up, but there's a project that, one of the, one of the projects that me and Basil are rolling out, one of the original projects that we're rolling out, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, get honest at that line, I'm always talking about the supernatural folklore that exist down south. Those are where the original stories are. All folklore, all folklore is representative of real things.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Yes. And it's just put into digestible stories that are meant to scare us or inspire us. But these things all represent like real human experiences. The best stories throughout time represent real human experience. Absolutely. Noah's arc, like you might be like a literalist and believe he built the arc, or you might look at that story, interpret it in terms of faith and like what faith can do. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:23:13 And like, I think that's awesome. And if that hasn't been explored, what you're saying, Charlotte, that makes me very interested. I've heard a lot of mafia stories. Not saying we should stop making them, but like I've heard a lot of them. Like, where else do these things exist? I don't mind, you know, so I'm glad you brought that up. Mafia stories are great, but you know what's great about true crime stories. Anytime we see true crime from another world.
Starting point is 01:23:35 We've seen a million of the mafia stories, but when you see like the wire, when you see, you know, power, like my guy, Sean Penn, he wrote a story, Poisoned, you know, about the Shawa Posse. Is it the Shawa? Yeah, the Shawa Posse. No, Poison Clan, I'm sorry, the Poison Clan in Brooklyn. Like, these are real things that happen. So when you hear these stories, you're like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Like, when you actually read about them and then watch them play out on the big screen, we haven't seen that. And some of them become myths, and that's what makes him even more interesting. You can't even believe that it really happened? Like, this is it really happened? Yeah. Like, this, like, really? Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:13 I think that'd be really cool if, and I'm sure the South has millions of them, you know, so let's explore them. I think that's really cool. I think that's really, really cool. I can't wait. And Ryan Coogler did an unprecedented deal. He's got a deal to where in 25 years, he gets back the ownership rights to centers. but also he got first, he has a deal called the first gross rights deal. So before the movie is even profitable, he starts getting money back even before the studio.
Starting point is 01:24:48 His payment. That's fantastic. You know what I'm saying? Like, shout out to Ryan. He deserves it, man. You talk about, yeah, you said it right, he's a film nerd. Like, if you talk to Ryan Cougla about film. That's who, I want film nerds making my films.
Starting point is 01:25:01 I want music nerds making my films. I want music nerds making my music. That's right. I want tech nerds making my tech. I want the people who love the game. Like, they're obsessed with the game making shit. That's right. Because they put out the best product and we like it the best.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I think what happens is, you know, certain genres of entertainment become really popular. And then you get people who are not necessarily the nerds. They're more like the executives. And they're just trying to make these carbon copies of stuff. And then we start to feel it. We start to go, this is just trying to be a different version of that. And we can see through it. When you have the real artist making shit, you get real art, and the people like it, and they go to the fucking movie theater, which is a hard thing to get people to do.
Starting point is 01:25:38 So, yeah, I think this is great. Hollywood got to take risk. That's all. Hollywood got to be willing to take the risk. Take the risks on the artist, yo, because it's going to pay off. And we don't, some of us don't even need Hollywood. We're going to fund our own films, and then y'all going to see what we did, and then y'all going to be in business with us. That's what I'm here to do.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor. What we got? Taylor, gang, gang. First question is the RICO Graham. What's your obsession with slavery movies every couple years, every couple of years, 12 years, Django and Sin? I've never seen 12 years a slave. Me neither.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I love Django. The reason I love Django is because Jango wasn't no motherfucking victim. You know what I'm saying? Like Django, Jango went back and revolted and burnt that motherfucker to the ground. Superhero. I love Jango. Jango was fantastic. I don't have an obsession with slavery.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Actually, I don't need any more slavery. Yeah, I think we got it. I think, yeah, that's not what I want to say. I think we got enough World War II movies. We got enough slavery movies. I think we just keep on moving on, you know? Sennaz wasn't no slavery movie. Senators was about so much liberation.
Starting point is 01:26:55 I know, but they're still basing an awful just, I think. There was no slaves in sinners. I know. I'm saying, though. They bought a, they bought, let me shut up. Like, sinners is like the ultimate black liberation movie. He necessarily means the slavery just back in the day, segregation. It's a, I don't have no problem with period pieces.
Starting point is 01:27:15 That was a great period piece. They showed me something I've never seen before. By the way, not one person in that movie was being a victim. Even when it came to the vampire, it's like, not even when it came to the vampires, it wasn't It took place after slavery was already abolished, but the people were still working On the field, yeah. Yeah, people would still work. Like sharecropping should?
Starting point is 01:27:36 Sharecropping, yeah. Put it like this. One of the share crops was able to walk off the field. You know what I'm saying? And his wife told him go get that money. Like, yeah, Seniz was not a slavery. If you saw Senators as a slavery movie, you saw a two different movie. Next.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Major Katry says if you could open a restaurant, what would it be called and what cuisine would you serve? I would probably open something in Chicago I would probably want to go in business with Kanye West What? What? What? Is this a chicken and waffle spot, bro? What's it?
Starting point is 01:28:23 What's up with y'all? I'm opening an Irish restaurant, mash pee, done. That's what it is. I've been thinking about that for like five years. Why? I am unstoppable! I am unstoppable! I am unstoppable!
Starting point is 01:28:41 I am unstoppable! There's a... Come on, man. Come on now. I am unstoppable, okay? You end the pot on that. It's over. The way this guy just lays in waits me.
Starting point is 01:29:01 He just lays in weights, man. He's like Kanye with his cousin. I'm going to find the perfect time to put his dick in your mouth, man. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You just think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. And if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know you're right, too.
Starting point is 01:29:27 It's the brilliant of the podcast. Thank you for listening. Ha, ha, ha.

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