The Brilliant Idiots - Everyone Gets A Turn (Ft. Ivy Rivera)

Episode Date: May 20, 2021

After taking off a week off to sage the studio we are back and joined by Ivy Rivera to discuss the recent events in the podcast world, What it takes to have a successful team, good leadership, Charlamagne's honorary Doctorate, Ellen quitting after 19 years, and more!!! #RIP Paul Mooney Head Over to theandrewschulz.com for Andrews latest tour info. Head to www.blackeffect.com to check all the podcasts on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What's that mean? That's like a reaction. Oh, oof. No, I saw a sweatsuit. Somebody actually sent me a sweatsuit that said, Oof, so I didn't know if that was some new young shit. I think I texted that to you and you was like, what does that mean? I was like, it's a sound effect.

You got to ask nowadays. You just don't know nowadays. What that means? That sounds like you ate too much. Yeah, exactly. It's a reaction. I see Little Latin X is over there with Hezzi. How have you been?

How was your last couple weeks? Yo, life is good. It is. Big announcement. Hey. I got a big announcement, Charlotte. You want to do it now? You want to do it during church announcements?

So you want to let it rip now? Well, let's let it rip now while everybody's paying attention for some other shit. Let's go. You know? Big announcement. I will be the producer of the new Roryamaw podcast. Congratulations. I am the producer of the new Roryamall podcast coming to the White Effect Network.

We started a new podcast network called the White Effect Network. for strong white voices and I wasn't I wasn't sure I wasn't sure that about I'll be honest I was sure about Rory I thought that he could be a strong white voice you know what I mean

and just take awkward sips out of his red cup but I felt that he needed somebody to be like mixed up with and then when I listened to the podcast that they recorded at WTF Media Studio that was a pilot episode So when I listened to that pilot episode

And at first I was skeptical of Maul I was like this guy He doesn't say because I wanted a white male voice And I wanted a white female voice for this podcast To really be the cornerstone or the White Effect network Okay And I need a strong female voice And I didn't think that Maul could be that strong white female voice

But when he said My aura is beautiful I was like, that's the guy That is the guy That is the white woman I need That you can can be the Caitlin Jenner of podcasting.

You can do it. When he said my aura is beautiful, I said, you capture my heart. He captured my heart in that very moment. He captured my heart in that very moment.

And that's it there. That is going to be, that's going to be my first podcast. We're looking for other podcasts. You know what I mean? So I don't know if, see, the thing is it's broken up yet,

but we're willing to do something with y'all as well. And that's just how things move. Well, I wish you much success at the White Effect podcast network. That's amazing. Yeah. I wish you much, much, much success. I know you can do it.

Yes. I'm looking, I mean, like, I think we can, I think if you put your money behind something, and I think you put your passion behind something, and I think if the time is right in history and you get the right voices, you know what I mean? I just want powerful, strong white voices, white female voices. Is there longevity in that? Is there longevity in that podcast? I don't know.

asking. I don't know. I don't know if some things are for the moment, you know, because of, you know, the situations that are around it. Is there longevity in that podcast? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that's a good question. Will people listen to it? I mean, did you listen to it? Um, I listened to bitch and pieces. Yeah, I listened to bits and pieces because people were sending me, uh, sending me things. Like, they sent me pieces where I was being spoken about. Yeah, right. Yeah, which I just thought was strange because it's like, you know, I lead with love, right? So if you lead with love and you show somebody love, I don't understand why that person would turn around and start hating, you know, and then bring you up later to reference you showing them love. It's just strange, but, you know, people do strange things. God bless everybody. I wish everybody the best.

When you launched in the first episode. Yeah. That's the thing is, that's the thing. it's, I'm not going to launch any episode. I, for the, for the, for the people of the public, I'm never going to allow them. You know what you should have said. See, the thing is, I'm not going to launch any episode.

See, I missed. I missed the opportunity. But no, I tried listening to their episode. I tried listening to their episode. And for the good of the public, I think what we'll do is record episodes with them, but just never release them. So nobody has to be. that board for an extended

period of time again. Jesus. I tried to watch it. I tried to listen to it. And yeah, I mean, like, they just don't got it, man. They just don't got it. I wish everybody the best, man.

And you know why I wish everybody. You know why I wish everybody the best show? I send positive, healing energy to everybody. You know why? Why? Because I want my aura to always be beautiful, man. I want my energy to always be pure, man.

That's it. You know what I mean? That's what it's about. I wish him. I absolutely positively wish him the best. I just think it's strange, man. You know how like,

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Outside of that, I know we want positive energy to everybody, whatever. But you got to admit there's a couple times that were fucking hysterical.

Like, you get these clips. And like, there's just moments that were just so hysterical. Break it down for me. You didn't laugh. Break it down for me. I didn't see the whole thing. Break it down.

I didn't see the whole thing either. I tried to watch some pieces. And then I had Alex give me like a breakdown. because it was shot at the beautiful WTF Media Studios. So that means that shows had an advanced copy. Don't act like y'all wasn't. We had the original.

No, that's like y'all wasn't in Miami watching that, like, this Minister Society tape when old dog shot them. In the theater room. Exactly. And old dog shot the people in the convenience store. I just thought there was a hilarious part where they talked about how Everybody told him that, what's the guy's name? Who?

Jonathan? The guy who runs the fucking network. I have no idea. John. Oh. Ian. John is his name? Isn't it Ian?

Ian? The rap, the guy used to rap. The fuck is his name. Jonathan. Jonathan? Jacob. Jake? John Jacob.

Peter was it? Got me beat, bro. I don't know. But whatever. that guy that used to the guy that used to rap that did the podcast or whatever he they're talking um

Rory Moller talking about him and like and they're like man everybody told us that you know he's gonna rip you off everybody told us he's gonna do 30 but but then but then Rory Moller like they're like but he was our friend

we never thought that he would do that to us you know that's just like that's exactly how everybody in the Trump administration sound you know what I mean That's everybody in Trumpy moves. A snake is a snake. Yeah, it's like when you stand next to somebody and you co-sign them when things are good.

Yeah, that's what? Here's the thing, and I say this all the time. If you want to see how somebody's going to treat you, just watch how they treat other people. Period. Eventually, it's going to be your turn. Eventually, it's going to be your turn. Like, it's not even rocket science. There's no need to act like it's some complicated math problem here.

If you want to see how somebody's going to treat you, just eventually, just watch how. they treat other people, eventually it's going to be your turn. You crack head on. I don't know what else to tell you. Yeah. But listen. Yeah, I don't know.

It was just, it was a sad moment. I actually kind of felt bad because I'm watching these two guys and they just like, looking at the camera and they're just like, I thought, I thought he loved me. No. He loved me. I thought he loved me. I thought he was going to be different with me. I thought.

I thought he was going to be different with me. really? I thought he told me it would be different. He told me I wasn't like them other ones. He told me I was unique. He told me I was special. He said I was special, but then he didn't treat me special.

Bro, why you sound like you got a hole in with Tyler Perry script? It felt like it. I felt so bad. I want to give them a hug. I want to give them a hug because they were hurt. Their hearts were hurt. Listen. He said, He said he loved them. Ouch. He said he loved them.

It's kind of their fault, though. If you want to see how somebody's going to treat you, just watch how they treat other people. Eventually it's going to be a turn. And that's why I tell anybody, man, you know, you think that, you know, you're around somebody and they're doing everybody dirty. If you're not checking that individual,

and I'm not even speaking about that particular situation, I'm just saying in general, if you're not checking that individual, what makes you think that it's not eventually going happening to you. I've seen it happen a million times. A million times. Yeah. Yo, that's how, that's how a Wendy Williams husband is. Yeah. Calvin Hunter. Yeah. It's like, yo, you watch him do everybody dirty. What made me think?

It wouldn't be my turn at some point. What made me think I was different? He said he love you. Hey, you know, that's just the truth to the matter. Like, literally, that's what it is. But that's the thing. It's like, you underestimate it. Like, what the fuck is his name, yo. Jonathan. What the fuck is his name? What?

Jonathan. Jonathan, what? You underestimate, like, how, how he's probably super romantic, bro. Like, like, like,

no, like, you got to understand, like, if you could convince two dudes, like New York dudes like that, you got two, I'm from New York,

right? So it's like, I'm going to raise in New York, you know? So it's like, The way you got to tell me you love me Where like

No matter what anybody else says It doesn't matter Like you got to look into a man's eyes And be like yo I love you bro During during yoga Like the right music plan Like it's got to be special bro Zen all zen up

That's you got to put that behind Patreon bro like I need I need a Patreon exclusive I need a Patreon exclusive I love you bro Like just that. Just say, I love you, Patriot. I got to feel what that is like.

Because that's next level, bro. Oh, my God. That's kind of fucked up, though. Somebody need to fuck him up, though. Out of them, too, somebody needs to give them, like, a couple of 30 seconds or do one of them. Jake Paul fights or something like that. Somebody, he owes somebody 30 seconds, bro. Yeah, I know.

For what? For love, bro? It sounds like, it sounds like big manipulation to me. Talk to me, Ivy. What you feel? Like, just from what I'm hearing, what I'm gathering, um, there, you use the I love you to get what you want. And then when you finish

whatever accomplishments that need to be made, you're like, okay. See you later. See you later. Yeah, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about this specific situation. It was really black and white. Yeah.

It was really black and white. We seem to come in. I shouldn't do that out there. I shouldn't do that out there. But, you know, that's what happened to you. It was a situation where it became what's love got to do with it. Yeah.

Literally. Yeah. because there's no permanent friends are enemies when it comes to business. You know what I mean? But you know, I... Gotta have respect, though, bro. You got to have respect, man.

Like, that's... I saw Kevin Hart, you know, speaking on the situation and I thought what Kevin said was very, very true. It literally just comes down to, you know, poor leadership skills. I actually was a supporter of the progression of him and his podcast. From afar to see you publicly shit on the guys that was with. you. That's an example of poor leadership. That's an example of why you are where you are. Here's the answer. Point blank. You want to be by yourself. You want to be king dingling.

Oh. You can't do that. You can't do that. Wealth should be shared, not owned. Facts. So this is a shout out, man, to Rory and Mall. You guys are dope as fuck at that job. again, I was a fan of the fucking podcast. It's a sad day to see this shit in when you guys were on your way to what seemed to be higher levels of success. I don't sit up here and promote the negativity.

Wish there was a world where you can work it out. But you need a good fucking leader that understands it's not just him. I don't think Joe has that. Everybody, as much as you may think you are, everybody's not built to be a leader. Yeah.

Because I don't think a leader is something that a leader is not about position, right? Like, I can, I can put somebody in a CEO position. I can put somebody in a boss position, but they just may not be built for that position. You know what I mean? Some people are great followers. Some people, yes. Well, some people are leaders. Some people are lovers. Like, he's a lover. What about when you lead with love? Can you lead with love? I think only for so long. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, oh, that's a good point. especially in business, right? Because I could be leading with love.

And if we're all leading with love in a business and the business is making money, eventually you're going to be like, hey, man, this love is cool, but bruh. Love phase. What's up with that money? But is love is transparency. Love is direction.

Yeah. And in helping to build something. Yeah. So you can lead with love because it's levels to this shit. Yeah. But not respect. Yeah. Love is respect.

But here's the thing. Like, you got to. understand the trance that he had these grown men in because not only would he not only did he have them so committed and so loved and so loyal he kept talking about how important transparency was and being there for the creators and supporting the creators and he had these two grown men that loved him so much that was so deeply in love they were co-signing the fraudulence that he was saying Like, he's like, yo, we got it. Respect creators, pay creators and full transparency.

And they were like, yo, can we get paid? And could you have transparency with the books? And he was like, fuck no. And then they were going to podcast the next week. Like, yeah, we're about creators. Which, that's next level manipulation and next level love. That's cult. The dude's got a talent.

Listen, there's no future in front, man. And I mean, that's, that's what I don't like. You know what I mean? Like, don't front. Like, don't sit there and act like things are all. good if they're not. Like, you know, if you're going to get on a, get in front of a platform and you're going to call other people out on their deals and, you know, you're going to talk about what other

people aren't doing in regards to business. Just make sure you got your shit straight. Right. That's all. Don't live in a glass house. My question is, does it fall on A or does it fall on B and C for not, like, paying attention? I say it's done because they still under the same numbers as Joe was on.

So what if they had got a big deal because they was on the same numbers and made something happen. Do they have to give Joe it? But if they all got three different big deals, would they be still trying to get money from Joe? I mean, if you start something together and you build something together, I think it all should be broken down equally. You know what I mean? Like when we started brilliant idiots, how long ago has it been shows? Shit, it's been so long. Chris Monroe. I got to give my guy Chris Monroe props, man, when Chris came and Chris was like, yo, shaw me, you should start a podcast. I was on some arrogant egotistical shit and I'm like, why would I start a podcast when I do radio? You know what I mean? But luckily, I listened to Chris and I'm like, yeah,

yo, you know, I'm thinking about people who I wanted to, like, partner with. I'm like, yo, it was actually between Andrew and this, a white woman, suit to Jesse May Paluso. But, you know, what Andrew was like, yeah, I definitely. Her management fucked that up. Was it? I don't remember what it happened with that. Yeah, her management said that they wanted you to do it with her, but not me.

Really? Yeah. And then that didn't work out. Oh, I don't remember. But Andrew pulled up and me and Andrew been rocking and rolling ever since. And never have I ever. ever looked at this like this is the Shalameen the God podcast. That's why it's called the brilliant idiots.

You know what I mean? From day one, I've always like, yo, we built something together. Like, I don't give up. And by the way, Andrew took the business way way way, Andrew took the business way more serious than I did and still does. But I know that I get checks all the time. Damn right. And those checks are chunky. And I'm right.

I don't, I don't, I don't. But I'll be honest. I always told you from the jump I was like listen man I'm gonna add value to this podcast one day I promise you but I understand the immense value that you add to this shit

but no I felt I felt like you different like no I felt like you bought the value to the podcast because this is the thing this is the thing about partnerships man at the end of the day what we're talking about before any before anything else

we're talking about is some shit good will some shit be good so if two people sit down it's about talent. Andrew Shult has been a talented motherfucker. That's it. Thank you, sir. Nothing more, nothing less.

Everything else, you know, it comes later. But at the end of the day, when you sit down and you build with somebody, it don't matter what your status is, what your financial level is. When y'all sit down and create this thing, is it going to be good? When it comes to talent, man, that's all that matters. Y'all both here when it comes to talent, unless you're just, you know, overly talented and you're carrying somebody, but that's never been the case. That's probably what he thought.

I can give him money. Yeah, but I feel, I'll be honest with you, like, I think I've gotten better at podcasting, but when we first started, you were so fucking much better at me than that. I mean, this is what you do for a living. I learned a lot from doing it with you, but you were, you know, I'm not trying to teach your own horn here, but like, I just learned a lot about talking to someone without an audience. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not absolutely.

So, learning how that switches and, like, learning these little things I learned a lot from you, I think that I've gotten better at it. But more importantly, I'm also thinking, listen, you're bringing this huge audience to the podcast. I don't have an audience. What can I do to help? How can I fill in the gaps? If you're doing all this, bringing the audience,

all right, let me make it easier for you. Let me make sure we get the cameras. Let me make sure that we put it up on YouTube so you don't got to worry about none of that. I'll handle some more of the business side. And let me try to build up my career in stand-up so that maybe I could bring some people over here and start listening to the podcast too.

So you're not caring doing all the heavy lifting. That's interesting that you felt like that because for me, like I was saying, I felt arrogant, right? I was like, why would I start a podcast? And one of the main reasons I was afraid to start a podcast, I didn't know motherfuckers would listen. I really did. You know, breakfast club is one thing. That's like, you know, that's something we started at Power 105. Power 105 is still, was still a radio station that already had an audience in New York.

This is something starting from scratch with a podcast. When me, you and jazz fly, you know, God bless the dead, my beautiful sister jazz. When we sat down and we did that Star Shame episode, episode and we had like $36,000 at the gate. I was like, oh shit, they give a fuck about listening to me outside of Breakfast Club. So, you know, the same way you felt like, oh, man, I don't know if we can build an audience.

I felt the same exact way. You know what I'm saying? Oh, shit. But the point is, the point is we built something together. I've never, I've never looked at it any other way. I don't give a shit. Like, go, Andrew, do your thing. Run with the business.

Like, go get the fucking advertisers. set the YouTube up. I don't give a shit. Like, do your thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. But you got to have transparent. Like, I think we had trust, but we also had transparency.

Like, and it's one of those things where, like, we'll make decisions together. Like, I don't make any decision without coming to you and going, yo, do you want to do this? Bro. Is this something that you want to do? Don't do this shit because it works for me. Is it something you want to do? and we're lucky where I think we kind of trust each other on these types of decisions. Let's talk about that.

That is because I go. Because I want to, I want, it's bigger lessons in all of these conversations, right? Yeah. You've got to have a team, bro. Like if you're a person who's been doing, you know, different things in this industry for a long time. And every single time, you know, you're in a situation where you get fucked. after a while you can only point the finger at you in your team who's your agent who's your manager

who are the people around you that you trust why is your circle constantly causing you to be in these situations where you fucking lose like yo I got the type of people around me that I know I can trust I can close my eyes and shit going to get done whether it's here in the brilliant idiotist podcast whereas whether it's at the black effect podcast network whether it's, you know, at SBA's productions, me and Kevin Hart's company,

whether it's at my book imprint, Black Privilege. Like, you have to have people around you that can get things done that literally have your best interest at heart. Because I promise you, man, if you keep finding yourself in situations where you feel like you're getting fucked, you got to look in the mirror and you got to look at the people around you. And you might have to make some changes, bro. That's it.

It's about teamwork, man. There has to be like a synergy in the whole. That's the hardest thing. It has to be. Like, I love it. I love that conversation with you and Andrew just now because it's like not only are you guys existing in this podcast, but you guys work as a team and there's transparency with ideas and how you can make your own identity and shine on your own without being a background singer. Yeah. That energy needs to be spilled everywhere on all levels of all things.

Yeah. And I mean, listen, to another point Andrew made like, yo, Andrew, we've been doing this podcast for seven years. Andrew he put himself in position He used every every opportunity that came Your way you put yourself in position The way now you Not only you're doing your own thing You got a whole other squad

That's what this shit is about That's what this shit is about Like what you When a baby is sucking on that breast Getting that milk What is he getting the milk for To grow To be strong enough

to crawl and walk on his own and become its own entity. And we all do that in various situations. All of us. We've all done that. We did that at MTV too. We did that. I do that at Breakfast Club. Shorts you do that with stand-up.

We did, we do that with brilliant idiots. We've all done that. We've all done that to be able to put ourselves in position to be able to walk on our own. Man, if you are grown-ass adult and you ain't still figured out how to walk on your own, God bless you. If you scared to walk on your own. Without the motherfucking Walker. Oh my God. God bless you, bro.

Shit is sad, man. It's a sad, sad, sad, sad existence, bro. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder what... I actually, I mean this sincerely. I'm not trying to, like, be sarcastic and shit like that. But I truly do wonder what the stand is feeling right now.

Like, the person that, like, went out there. Because I understand there's people who listen for entertainment value. Like, I got some homies that know that, you know, the guy's full of shit. He just says whatever. But he's wildly entertaining. You cannot deny the entertainment value. In the same way that, you know, girls watch real housewives of something. It's like, they don't really value what the girls are saying.

They're like, this is just so funny. It's so entertaining. I just saying anything. Right? So, like, but there are also people there who like cap and stand and got your back and and will ride so hard. and then to know that they were riding so hard for something that was a facade and that wasn't true and the exact opposite thing was happening. It's almost like QAnon, bro.

You know what I mean? Like, you know, those people who tried to take down, you know, take down a country or whatever, they stormed the Capitol. And it's like, and now they found out that it was all a facade. It was all bullshit. They were manipulated the whole time. None of the things that they were hearing were true. Like, what do those people do, man? That's dangerous.

Listen, they go become terrorists or some shit. You must feel so disillusioned. Like, you were on the internet fighting for somebody because you truly believe what he was saying was real. But then you found out he wasn't living up to it, even to his own closest people. Like, I honestly feel bad for those people, bro. I truly do.

I have empathy for those people. Well, that's how coach reforms, you know. And I'm not talking about that situation. I'm just talking about things in general, okay? In general, yeah. Coach the form because, you know, you pray on people's, need to believe to create this cult like following. So, you know, you give them something to believe in.

And how do you give them something to believe in? You whip up a fight. We see it all the time. We see it all the time in politics. You got to have an enemy. You know, in this situation, the enemy is the industry. The enemy is, you know, the people that are, you know, taking advantage of the creators, right? So, you know, you build, you create that.

You create this enemy. But the truth is, you really just want to be a part of that situation, which is sad in That's what happens a lot of times. A lot of times we become what we hate. You know what I'm saying? Or we've always been it. We just never had the power to expose it. Very true.

Or we never got accepted by it. That's another thing too, right? It's like that, it's like that girl that keeps ignoring you over and over and over. So you try to get with her. She doesn't want you. So then you show extreme disdain for her. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

You show extreme disdain for her. as soon as she gives you a little bit of play I love you I'm with you I'm right here with you I'm hugging you boo you know what I mean and by the way I just want to point out I would never do that with the streaming platform ever I am Mr. Independent and I would never do a special

with a major streaming platform at all so I am not a hypocrite whatsoever when it goes out to that shit No, no. But once again, it shows the difference between you and we had this conversation. Oh, I'm Hippocrates. You admit it. Of course.

But there's nothing wrong with changing your mind. You know what the cruelest thing about that shit is, though, is like the issues that oftentimes these, like, cult leaders bring up to manipulate people are actually true real issues. Yeah, of course. You know, like the industry is corrupt. Yes. Right? Like, all the things that they're.

saying people don't respect creators and all the things they're saying are real so if you're a creator if you're somebody who's been treated shitty by the industry you're like finally someone's saying this shit yes but if you're not keeping that same energy with your own people you were just using it as a tool to manipulate people to support you and that's kind of corny bro wait i i have a question go ivy go so if this person has been in a history of you know hitting walls in whatever business endeavors he has pursued, how can he really lead when all he has experienced is loss? He's not the best person to lead that pack because all he knows is what he's experienced.

I think that's a very valid question. Like I said, I think I would think people would learn from their experiences, but I guess they don't. And that's why I got a question said person. and I got to question the person's team. You know what I mean? Number one, how do you continue to end up in these situations if you have the experience? And number two, how does your team continue to put you in these situations?

And this goes back to what started, you know, his ranch against me last fall. I said one simple thing on Breakfast Club, one simple thing. I think the brother understands his value. He knows his worth, but he doesn't know how to negotiate. Which is essentially saying, I don't think he knows the business like he thinks. he knows the business, then which caused him to go on all these rents, you know, about me, about, you know, oh, you're not an owner and you're not this and you're not that, blah, blah, blah, blah. I didn't give a damn, you know, people like, oh, you know, Shalama. That's insecurity, though. Explain.

That's, if you're saying something that's not even a dis, I think that's constructive criticism. Yes. I think that is like just general basic analysis. I thought so. So when you come back in defense, especially, that's like if you're saying Ivy, I think that, you know, you work really hard, but this may not be for you. I'm not going to be like, well, that's why you ballhead and that's why I'm not like that. You just deflecting. I'm just, I mean, it's not what I feel is what you are.

But it's just you're deflecting the point. You know what I'm saying? Thank you for that information. Thank you for your opinion. Now I'm going to look at why you may think that. Yeah. You know, and I'm going to work on it so you don't have another comment to say about my business again. That's the way you do it.

And the worst part about that, you know, yes, constructive criticism. Then we even get on the phone and chop it up about that criticism. But you behind the scenes on one way, right, with me. You know, asking for help. We're discussing things. But then you get on your platform. And act like your enemies. Act like we're the worst enemies.

And now you take it somewhere where you can't come back from, at least with me. Yeah. That bridge is burnt. Yeah. You know, run with that, Reddit. Like, you know what I'm saying? That bridge is burned. You know what?

Completely burned. It's interesting. It's interesting with the parallels with Trump. I was talking to this guy who's a, he was like a CIA or FBI hostage negotiators. His name is Chris Voss. You'd probably see him. He's doing like a master class, whatever. And he was talking about negotiation techniques and why he's, he's like a conservative dude,

but he's very critical of Trump. He doesn't think Trump is a good negotiator. And that's like Trump's whole thing. And he goes, he's just a bully. And eventually the bully tactic wears out. Of course. So he's like, sorry, say again? Of course, bro.

Oh, yeah. I've said this analogy a million times. I'd rather be the son than the win, right? Remember you ever heard that story about there was this guy. He was walking with a coat on. He had a big trench coat and he had a hat and the sun in the wind was like, let's see who can get him to take his clothes off first. And, you know, the wind started blowing all crazy. And like, so the guy grabbed his coat tighter and held his hat on tighter.

The son was like, watch this. The sun came out. He was warm. He was loving. He was radiant. That dude got naked inside under the tree. I'd rather be the sun. So he was saying what Trump had owned the real estate, I think it was by like Hudson Yards in New York for years, but couldn't get it built up.

before Hudson Yards popped up. You guys know Hudson Yards over on the West Side. And he couldn't get anybody develop it because all the people he'd already burn the bridges with. They were like, we did a building with you and it fucking was the worst.

So I don't want to work with you again. Eventually he had to sell it and then within a few years, it becomes the Hudson Yards development that is right now in New York. These buildings are crazy, blah, blah. The point is, you eventually run out of people to fuck over. Yeah.

You keep on fucking over someone Keep on fucking or so. Keep on fucking order. And you run out of people to fuck over. And it's just the audacity, right? Like, if you're with, if you're one way with me behind the scenes, but then you get on camera in front for the people that's, you know, watching you, I'm watching this like, I don't, I don't,

what was the reason? I don't even respect you because here's the thing. This is what I love about life, right? We live in this era where people got platforms, so people can do YouTube videos. They can do their podcast. Here's the thing. I know you're lying.

Your audience don't know, so you're entertaining them. But I'm watching you knowing that you're lying. I don't care if everybody else knows. I know. So now you try to come back and deal with me and text me, good morning. I don't know. I'm not responding to you. Don't please the people that you ain't never met before.

Versus the people that you know you're going to see at dinner one day. And lying to kick it. We don't got nothing. Are you dumb, stupid, or slow? Are you dumb, stupid, too, slow? We don't got nothing else to talk about. I wish you the best. I don't, I don't, you know, much success to you, even if you wish me the opposite.

As soon or later, we'll all see who the prophet is. And I say it Jones. You know what I mean? And listen, I'm the type person, you know, this is the first time I've even, like, spoke about this since those rants last fall. But I didn't speak with words. I spoke with actions. Because that's another thing. Like, you could say whatever about me.

I know what my hand is. Yeah. You know what I mean? Exactly. You can say whatever about me. I know what I'm doing. It's like, oh, Shaleman, he don't own nothing, blah, blah,

okay, hey, Black Effect Podcast Network, even though I owned mad stuff prior to all of that, but Black Effect Podcast Network, you can go to Black Effect.com. Black Privilege Publishing, Tamika Mallory, State of Emergency. It's out right now. SBAH with my man Kevin Hart at Audible.

We've got answers available on Audible right now. I'm working, bro. Like, I don't have time for the back and forth because there is no back and forth. I gave a critique. Exactly. I gave a critique, which I think now, people can say without a shadow of a doubt was true. You know what I mean?

Without a shadow of a doubt, I think we can say that this critique is true. Because if you constantly end up in the same situations, clearly you don't know business like you think you know business. And that's fine. Yeah. It's never too late to learn. God bless you. wish you the best. But as far as me,

like, you know, when people ask, you know, why I don't speak on certain things, I don't want to. Me, me, me, me, me, me, you don't need to. I don't need to. Me and that brother did not sit down and come to an agreement

that we wouldn't speak against each other. There's no threat he can make against me that, that scares me. I just don't feel the need to do this. You know what I'm saying? I just don't. It's just, that's it.

Moral of the story is, stop being emotional. I'm being emotional. For real. Because a lot of the things that we're talking about... I really love... I really love that a Latin woman just said that. I think that we need to...

We need to create an NFT off of that right now. Stop being emotional by a New York... A New York... When all y'all do, New York Latin women are the most passionate, emotional people there are. But that's why I could talk about this. Because I am super passionate, but I know when there's a time and a place. If I'm handling business, I'm not going to go off of my emotions because that's not doing good business. That's just doing what you feel in the moment.

You know, you're not thinking about the end goal. Like when you get a text, like, don't come for a week. And you're like, can you explain? And then you emphasize the text. Or you fire somebody on Twitter. Yeah. That's emotion. Yeah.

And you know what? I think Ivy's right. Also, I don't do before. formative things. Like, when I talk to, I really value our audience. I value our listeners. I'm not, I don't care if it's breakfast club. I don't care if it's brilliant idiots.

Wherever we're at, I'm not just putting things out there to do it. You know what I mean? The times I was doing that, the times I was being a caricature, the times I was performing. All I did was bump my head and fuck my own shit up. So my own progress up. So I'd rather just pull up and give it to y'all, you know, real deal, Holyfield every single motherfucking time.

You know what I mean? And that's it. Nothing more than nothing less. So it's a lot of performing that goes on. The performing is when you sit next to somebody and you know things aren't right. You know, professionally, or personally, but you co-sign a lot of the bullshit.

You know what I mean? Like I said, it's just like folks in the Trump administration. It's kind of hard to stand on a moral high ground now after you watch this person do shitty things to so many different people over the years. And to think you wasn't going to be on the menu at some point? Of course. Come on, man.

I'll say it a million. times if you want to see how somebody's eventually going to treat you watch how they treat other people because eventually it's going to be your turn so i just you know it's a lot it's a lot of things i just don't respect i don't respect that and you know i just don't respect you know the behind the scenes acting like it's all good but then in front of the camera it's let me paint this picture of charlemagne exactly i don't like that so yeah characters god bless them and god bless everybody over there i truly still wish them the best, my brother. I don't wish, I don't wish, I don't wish, I really

don't wish bad on anybody. Like, I don't sit back and I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm happy to see this is happening. Nah, it's just like, damn. We don't want you to fall. We want you to learn. That's, bro. Look at my niece with the boss. Spends time with Charlotte.

That's it. I don't want you to fall. I want you to learn. That's it. It's just, you know, it's just, it's hard when these people are so old. We're in our 40s. It's never too long. Shultz don't give a fuck. Shultz is like, burn, baby, burn.

Shultz is like when they all fall down. You got to love Andrew for that. I get it. I mean, like, I just don't care. Like, I don't. I don't care either way. I don't care up, down. Like, I just don't.

It doesn't matter. But once I, once I remove you, like, once I remove you and I remove your well-being from, like, my mind, then it doesn't matter. I guess, I guess, you know what? I feel the same way. I guess the only reason that even made me comment the way that I commented now, just because I see people on the online seem to care. By the way, I love Reddit, bro. Weezy put me on the Reddit.

Yeah, Reddit is fire. I fucking. Reddit is amazing. Yeah, if you like Twitter, you're going to love it. Oh, my God. I'm not one of those people that let social media dictate my moves. You know what I mean? So it's like, and I don't let social media think for me like a lot of people do.

So I just enjoy it for what it is. entertainment. It is a very, very entertaining place. And they are very invested in things that we're doing in this podcast space, which I think is great. You know? Shouts to the, to the brilliant idiot subreddit. Oh, shit is whack. Shouts to the brilliant idiot subreddit. We got to do a Reddit AMA. I don't know what that is. Oh, I did one of those before back in the day. We did it together, motherfucker? We did? Yeah. I don't even remember. I gotta see how much money I'm losing I'm losing point base right now

I should just trash I went I went to Brilliant Idiot subreddit And I didn't get no enjoyment out of it It was like man ain't nobody over here You know how you go to a club And nobody's in the club I'm like shit I didn't enjoy it No

All right well I tried to shout y'all out man I did my best Brilliant Idiots Reddit Fuck with us fuck with us I mean I don't know how to I don't know We know we got Teach him You know what it is

You know what it is Our aura are two beautiful beautiful, bro. So, you know, you can't, you can't have a popping subreddit, you know, if your aura's too beautiful. You know what I mean? It's nothing to talk about. You know what I'm saying? This morning, I woke up, bro, and my, my aura was off, bro. Talk to me. I don't know, man. Like, I woke up. I wiped some cold out my eye. That happens. I had to see who, you know, who's this page of me and why and then I

Oh my God You should have meditated Big some arms I should have Yeah that's what I do I meditate I do my breathing exercises You know what I'm saying

First thing in the morning I do Is I pray I meditate Because my anxiety's been bad The past couple of days I don't know why Is it been like How long do you meditate

I don't do it long I have a chant right So I have these beads And the beads I think it's like 150 beads So You beat Namio de Kikyo in No I have my own

personal mantra. Charlemagne? At my own personal mind. If you continue this shit, I'm about to sign you to the White Effect Network. Beads and stones and all this other stuff. I think it's something to do with the moon, though, because a lot of people I know that got anxiety is like, like, flaring up right now. All right, I'm taking a pee.

Let's go pee. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hello? Are we recording? Hold on. Are we recording? Yeah. Listen, I got one more thing to say before. we move on from this situation, because I promise you I'm not talking about this shit no more. Okay. Ever.

Okay. Again in life. But since we are on the subject, I do just want to say this. Get it off your chest. You wrote it down? No, no, I didn't write it down. What Ivy said was very true. We don't want you to fall. We want you to learn. You know, when bridges get burnt with me, it's just when people, you know,

go out of their way to you know, assassinate my character. But also, um, when it's just lies being told, there was there's no smear campaign like i i want this what i want you to learn i want you to i want you to hold yourself accountable right stop don't blame people for shit that you got yourself in through got yourself you know i mean that was just a deflection tactic to say it was a smear campaign how do how did i start that that's when i knew i don't fuck with this dude you can't even pronounce

smear man shut up but i'm just saying that that's that's That's yet another reason why it's like, God bless you. I wish you the best. But, you know, that bridge over here is burnt. Like, come on, you knew, you know, you know that was not the case. But in order to deflect from whatever bullshit you had going on in your life, you wanted to throw that shit over here and have people looking at me nuts. Like, I don't have things to do. You know what I mean?

But don't ask me no more about that shit. ever again. I don't want to talk about it. I got too many, I got too many companies to run and too many of my friends to love and empower and respect and employ. Okay. Now, let's pay some bills. God bless. And we're moving on. The world today is nuts. I think y'all understand that based off our lives conversation. And just when it seems like things are getting better, we're hit with even more reasons to be anxious and uncomfortable. And that's why our friends that Cushy Dreams can help. Cushy Dreams specializes in high-quality, smokable CBD, and CBD has been shown to help with anxiety, depression, inflammation, even pain relief, and more. And smoking CBD gets it

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Get out there. Let's get back to the show. The announcements are a very important part of what we do in church. All right, we got these church announcements, show? It's what you got? Yes, church announcements. Big, big tour. Big, big, big, big, big.

Okay, we are going, um, official, the infamous tour. Tickets go on sale this Friday 10 a.m. Eastern Standard time. Okay. I posted it online on Instagram. I can tell you the exact places that we're going to, but the Andrew Sholes.com, use those ticket links. If you're trying to get the tickets before Friday 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time, you're going to get these bogus links. They're going to hit you over the head, prices, ticket prices, fucking thousands of dollars

shit. No. 10 a.m. Friday. Get up. Get the tickets for your city, for other cities. Go do that. It's this Friday 10 a.m., also big news. I'm switching the special taping. The special taping is no longer going to be in L.A. We are still going to do those shows there, but I can't do the special there because we don't know what the fuck is going to happen in L.A. Okay, they might make you wear masks. What special taping? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What special taping? Oh, bro, the special taping there was from before. Before the pandemic. I had a special before the pandemic.

Same network? Same network? I can't. I can't say who. I can't say who, you know? I mean, don't say who, but I know the platform.

I knew what the platform was. Was it the same platform? Yes. Whoa. All right, big, big, Dick Shultz. God damn. We still, so we were going to do it in L.A. You know, we sold out four shows at the Orphium.

I'm coming. When is it? But now we switched it to Austin in September. So that's as part of the infamous four dates. You come out just real quick. We're doing Dallas, Houston, Tucson, Los Angeles, Oklahoma City, Detroit, Milwaukee, San Diego, Austin. That'll be the special taping. Louisville, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Washington, D.C., Madison, Chicago, Minneapolis,

Fargo, which I specifically want to go out there because why not? And then New Year's Eve, we're going to go Boston. that will round out the year. But I'm telling you, the special will be in Austin now. The tickets that everybody had for those LA shows are still, if you bought tickets from before the pandemic, we're still honoring those. And since we're not filming there,

we're releasing more tickets because we don't have to kill any seats for cameras, etc. So those will also be available Friday. Go get them shits. And go get them now, man. I'm very excited about this tour. It's going to be wild. It's going to be big.

Everybody's ready to go back out. The energy is, I don't know. I can feel the energy, man. It's been different. It's been different. The. Andrew Shultz.com. Andrew Shultz.com?

The. The Andrew Shultz.com. Some motherfucker. Don't forget the V. We got to go the Andrew Shultz. Don't forget the D.H.E. T.H.E. Andrew Shold.com.

Go get them shit. Boston on New Year's Eve is the whitest shit. That's like white people's Miami. Yeah. For Boston on New Year's Eve? New Year's Eve. Boston is nice. Not on New Year's Eve.

Yo, Boston. Where should he go? That's my favorite. That's my favorite, like, those are, that's the city where all my favorite comics are from Boston, man. I think the funniest people come from there.

Okay, okay. Wax, you got some church announcements? Yeah, I'm over in Cookie, San Diego. I'm a 36 suspensaries in LA. Y'all get the flower there. I got my lemonade is going off. It's like getting a lot of orders. Appreciate y'all.

What else I have? I got the paintball fighting, man. I want you to really come out to that. I'm doing podcast wars, and I want anybody to come and participate. We got Bullying the Beast on Mondays and Wednesday. So yeah, make sure you all watch that.

And this week's was a very interesting episode that we learned a lot about with wax. Oh, we're going to get to that in a second. Ivy, you got any church announcements? I'm alive and I'm blessed and I'm tanned. And your aura is beautiful. And my aura is beautiful, man.

My church announcements are the same, week. BlackEffect.com, log on there and get all the various podcasts that are under the Black Effect. Make sure you go to Audible and download. We've Got Answers, which is an audio book I put out about a month ago. It's free with our Audible membership. And Tamika Mallory, state of emergency, how to win in the country we built. Man, when I tell you that, you know, the response to the book has been, like, overwhelming. And, you know, just seeing everybody, you know, post the book online and seeing the reviews on the book, man. Temeca Mallory deserves it all.

I got to post my book. What? I can't post my book? No, I don't like influences that don't read. No. I'm doing the audible shit. What? I'm doing an audible shit. Put it on YouTube. Damn. I ain't how to read it. No, don't put it on YouTube. What are you talking about? I don't know how to do this shit. Wax got to start posting. No, dude, this is a great idea. Wax. You got to start posting. Wax. You got to start posting like you reading books like remember lebron when he would just read the first page of

my god start with the cat in the head well speaking of uh wax's reading he has a segment on bull and and b's called wax's abc's where he learns new words and tries to pronounce him and i'm doing very well wax found out this week that he's a little bit gay like we all are shulks whoa whoa just a tad just a tad well like i said if is that if that's the definition of it yes i'll be gay if that's the definition of it but that's not the definition of it but that's not the definition of it's definition of it. He said a little bit. I know.

Progress, baby. But listen, that's not the definition of gay, though. What you mean? A man jerking off is not, don't mean you.

No, no, no, no. It's simple. It's simple. Let me ask you a question, Alex and Andrews since y'all sitting over there. Has a man ever made you nut? Think about it.

Yes. I've made me nut. Boom. Alex. So they both gay too. Little Latin X. Has a man ever made you nut? By Andrew's definition, yes.

Yes. Yo, yo. My hand. Show them. Not me. I'm going to go so far. I'm going to go so far to say as the majority of the times

that I've come in my life have been at the hand of a man. No, no, no, no. I'm second. I'm second behind my wife. You think you're, yeah, but you've been with your wife since you're like 17 years old.

Andrew, do you look in the mirror when you masturbate? No. That'd make you never do it again. No. That'd make you never do it again. That's a little weird. That's why I'll jerk off no more.

If you look in the mirror while you masturbate, And you have like a real intense orgasms? Look stupid as hell. Hey. But that's our whole point. A man has made you masturbate. Can we talk about this, though?

This is interesting. Charlemagne has a tattoo of a man on his jerk off form. What? When he's showing the man. He sees the woman. He's not a man. It's a mutant. It's a mutant.

Oh, Lord. Listen, I got a Bible scriptural on my shit. Oh. Oh, God bless. God bless. God bless. King Jr. on his jerk off form.

Hold on. Talk about. Tell him out. Guess what Wax's Bible scripture is? What is it? Palm. It's not Palm. What is it?

Yeah. It's not Psalm. Oh, Sam. Never mind. Listen, baby. We shoot. We shoot him.

We tried. You didn't have not been to church. Listen, we tried. Oh, shit. Lord, forget him. It said, Palm. Forget him.

We all. We all. I look confused. I'm not much if I say Palm Sunday. The book of Palm. Yo, did you guys hear what Alex has on his jerk off for him? What? Martin Luther King Jr.

Really? Yeah. Why? It's your cousin? Alex had some cream. What did you want? I had a cream. Alex, you really do?

Yeah. Why? Oh, shit. He said, why? Yo, I'm reading a fantastic book that you would like called The Sword and the Shield. And it's by Poneal Joseph. A pernil.

Is it a Poneal of Pernil? Dr. Pernil, Joseph, I believe. It's about Martin and Malcolm. I've never read a book that humanized them in this way, bro. Oh, really? No, man, it is, yo, listen, it is not, it is fan-tastic. Charlotte, Charlotte, Charlotte, yes. Save your breath.

What? Okay. He just got that tattoo because he got a white girlfriend. Don't. Don't listen to him. You still have a white girlfriend? No, I don't. No, I don't.

You can't deny her. One thing you're going to learn in sword and the shield. No, you got to get them the slippers. Hey, but one thing you're going to learn sword in the shield. Dr. Umar. Dr. Martin Luther King wasn't opposed to white with me. Let's go. New podcast coming to the white effect next.

By the way, y'all would have absolutely, by this generation's definitions, y'all would have absolutely canceled Martin Luther King, Jr. Y'all would have canceled him. What? Y'all would have called him a womanizer. Y'all would have called him misogynistic. Y'all would have called him sexist. He was, he didn't, I mean, but he was young, though, that's the thing. I'm sure he would have grown and would evolve, but he didn't believe in women being in

leadership positions. You know what I mean? Like, which positions did he believe them being? Oh, shut up. You know, Ella Baker had a lot of, you know, a lot of things to say. It's a good read. You should, you should check it out. That's all I'm saying, Alice.

Let me see the tattoo. You really got Wonderful King Jr.? His face or his name? His face. He's looking at his full face, bro, while he's jerking on. Does it actually look like him? Yeah, yeah. Let's see, bro.

Wait, so, on your other hand, do you have someone that's Spanish? Let me see, bro. Damn. That's meek Mill. Oh, my. Oh, that's me, bro. Man, you better say that your baby picture. Say that's your baby picture.

If anybody say anything, that's my baby picture. That's my uncle. That's my uncle. That's my son. Boy, you ain't wheezy really trying to sell this black on studio shit. Any means necessary. He's like, look, he has a lot of the arm. He should definitely come here. Jesus Christ.

Listen, did you see the flag rogan cart shows? Yeah. Tell me what you thought about that. As a straight, as a straight white male, well, you're not all the way straight. You're a little crooked. Yeah. Yes. As a straight but slightly crooked male, what did you think of the statement? What is, what is, wait, how am I not all the way straight? I'm about to get married. Because a man made you come. Say what?

A man made you nut before. You don't know how I identify? You know, I don't know how your hand identify. You don't know how I identify. My right hand identifies as a woman's hand. You only put pedicures over there. You're crazy guys. Exactly.

So this is a woman's hand right here, bro. This hand is woman. The rest of my body's man. But that hand is a woman, bro. That's a woman's touch. When I'm grabbing my shit, that's a woman's touch. What do you think? What do you think of what do you say?

It's true. Everything, listen, women's touch. Wait, what did you say? What do you think of what Rogan said? Well, what are we saying exactly? So he was saying that like straight white males can't have an opinion these days? Yeah, I read. I mean, it was a long transcript because it's from the podcast, but I'll read the headline.

Joe Rogan warns, woke mob will make it so straight white men won't be allowed to talk or go outside. I don't get it. Yeah, I mean, I think it's, he's being hyper, He's taking that out of context. And like, clearly Joe is proof that straight white males can have an opinion, but he's not talking about himself, obviously, right? In order for him to be able to say whatever he wanted, he's gone through immense amount of flack. Like, you don't get close to the amount of flack for having like very polarizing figures on the breakfast club that Joe gets for having like political pundits on Joe Rogan, right? So it's like it's, of course what he's trying to say is that

there is a heightened stakes that has to do with it. But I think that there's, look, it's like, how do we say it? Like, can Joe say whatever he wants? Absolutely. He's made a career saying whatever he wants. Is he paying the price for saying? Yes. And that is the cost that you have to pay for these things. And I think that he would agree with that. I think he's more referring to people who work for like corporations and they might have a conservative opinion, but be worried if they say that at their job that they might get fired, they might not get a raise, they might not do these things.

And I think that's more what he was saying for. It's not specifically Joe. Like I think Joe's a pretty self-aware guy. Maybe I'm more defensive of him, you know, because he's done a lot for me, just like I'm defenses of you, because you've done a lot for me.

So it's hard for me to see you guys and like see you guys do wrong. But I think that's what he's speaking on. I'm mad. I don't know. Does that make sense? What do you think? It makes perfect of what you said.

And I agree with you. I'm mad at Joe for one. thing. I'm mad that he he said straight white men because the woke mob eventually comes for everyone. And I think that it's a larger conversation to be had

but we can't get to the conversation and you've kind of proven Joe's point again because Joe said straight white men so everybody stuck on that point. The truth to the matter is free speech is not free and it never has been. There has always been a cost

to the things that come out of your mouth. Now, are we paying too high of a price for things that we may be saying now that we didn't pay 10 years ago? Sure, to your point, because these corporations, they get upset, they want to back away, you know, people get on social media, they raise hell, so you know, you might lose speaking engagements, whatever it is, you lose all types of things. But eventually, wokenness comes for everyone. It cannibalizes everybody. I saw Don Lemon talking about it. you know, today. And he said that, hey, Joe Rogan,

nobody's stopping straight white men from talking. Nobody's stopping any of us from talking. What Joe was saying is the backlash. That's what people don't want. So eventually, eventually people won't get scared and not want to say anything. They are.

They already are. Yes. And not just an entertainment, right? Comedians, radio personalities, podcasters. We can't even talk, bro. Like me and you can't, we can't even have an honest conversation without I think we're going to step on a landmine and piss people to fuck off.

That's a great point. And I think that's, that's a great way of looking at it. If he didn't say straight white males, so many more people, people of color, minorities would come out and be like, yo, that's true. Like, sometimes I feel like I can't even say anything because I'm going to piss off my woke brothers. I mean, how many friends do we have that are like adjacent to the super woke community? And they're like, bro, I can't even have these conversations. with them because then I'm going to be ostracized.

Yo, I hit up, I hit up, I hit up, Don Lippant, you know what I mean? Because whenever it's about, whenever I see media personalities, I'm like, yo, you do understand you're a media personality. You give your opinion for a living, right? So I hit up Don, and I was like, Don, you're right. Nobody is silencing straight white men. Nobody is silencing any of us. You just have to be able to deal with the backlash.

And I'm like, yo, your, Don Leman is an openly gay black man. How many times has he? Wait, wait, wait, wait. How many times does the woke mob come for him? Hold on. Wait, Don Lemon is black? No. Don't let me.

Don't ever let it. Don't ever get it fucked up right. I knew. coming. I can hear it in his voice. Oh my God. But no, how many times they come for Don Lemon? Just because he had a difference of opinion

or because he had an unpopular opinion or who gives a fuck, it was just his opinion. It doesn't matter whether you're a straight white male, a black gay man, a transgender, whatever, Jewish, Asian. Eventually, they will come for you.

You will say something online that somebody will not agree with. And here's the thing, right? You should not get in front of a microphone. You should not get in front of a camera and express your opinion if you're afraid of people disagreeing with you. Nope. I have no problem with the disagreement, right? The problem I have is that whole let's get this person the fuck out of here just because you don't agree with something that they said. To me, that's weak.

That's weak to me. Let's have the debate. Why do you think we watch ESPN first take? Because we like the debate. Why do you think that we watch CNN and MSNBC when it's the talking heads in the panels or Bill Maher, because we like the debate? Why can't we all just exchange ideas?

As long as the ideas aren't dangerous, as long as the ideas aren't hurting nobody, as long as the ideas aren't calling for nobody to get killed. You know what I mean? Why can't we have conversation? That's all. That's it. I agree.

I agree. That was my only thing. I think. I think that's a great take. I think that's a really, really great take because maybe what he didn't realize in the moment is it far more people in groups could relate to the opinion that he was having on it.

And by making, yeah. Yes, wokeness is coming for us all. I promise you, everybody gets a turn. The only people who don't get a turn are the ones that are lying to everybody. And they're playing it so safe that they're literally just saying whatever the crowd wants them to say.

What even those people with their safe opinions, it's going to be somebody that disagrees with you. I say this to them on the breakfast club all the time. I tell envy this all the time, because envy gets very frustrated. But one of my mentors, my man Cadillac Jack, Cadillac Jack, I always talked about the law of 10. Three people going to like it.

Three people are not going to like it. Four people just going to be on the fence about it. Or four people are not even going to give a fuck. So on social media, it is literally the epitome of everybody has an audience and everything has an audience. So it's just like you got to, it comes with the territory, man. That's my only pushback on Rogan. Don't say straight white male because now you make a conversation that should be macro, micro.

Because we're not even focusing on what you said anymore. They're focusing on the fact that you as a straight white man and straight white men being the most privileged in this country historically can always say what the fuck they want to say. But guess what? That doesn't mean that they're not, that they're exempt from the consequences. of what they want to say. You know, it's interesting, it's like, I'm sure this has happened in the history before, but there's like a unified reaction to wokeness that everybody experienced within their communities, right?

Like, if you speak to somebody in the black community, the Asian community, the Indian community, or whatever, there is like a set of opinions that the community agrees upon. And they're like, hey, this is the best for empowerment for us. and I would imagine that if you disagreed with any of those opinions, right, the community might be like, yo, what are you doing? Like, why aren't you riding for us? And they might not try to cancel you, but they might be like, yo, you're not doing the right thing for our group. I imagine that exists.

Is that right or 100%? Okay. So, like, in a weird way, everybody's experienced cancellation, they've just experienced it from within their own group. Absolutely. This person isn't Spanish enough. This person isn't Asian. this person isn't black enough, this person is whatever. Absolutely.

And now we're all unified in these feelings, right? Instead of it happening within your own community, it's like there's group thought to it. Oh, this person wasn't woke enough for Hollywood, for news, for entertainment, et cetera. It's weirdly becoming the most relatable thing. Bro, everybody gets the turn. Yeah. I don't know if you tweet, if you're on Instagram live, if you, if you're on Instagram live, if You got a radio show, if you got a podcast, if you do stand up, if you create art for a living, eventually you're going to say something that is going to cause the woke bob to jump on your ass.

Everybody gets a turn. That's all I can tell you. I just hope that we get to the point where, you know, everybody starts taking some naps and we start getting some sleep because all this woke shit is keeping us up too long. And we're not thinking straight. We're tired. And we're not able to have real conversations, real. dialogue. But you notice that a lot of this, the commentary comes from people who don't even have a lot of like research behind their back. They even see anything. There's a bunch of trolleers, of

course. Yeah. Like, it's inevitable to a point where it's like, I don't give a fuck what I say because I don't care what the fuck you say. Absolutely. We heart. Who said? Shot, shot, shot. That sounded personal. It was a shot right there. It was nobody in particular. I just, I have flashbacks. I have PTSD for my time here at Brilliant Idiots. Every time I become to Buriant if they want to cancel Ivy.

Oh my God. What's the worst thing they said to you live? I'm not claiming my blackness. You black? You're what? Everybody's black. That's true. That's true.

I ain't know that. Wait, what they say? What they say? Hold on. Because they always try to say, I'm not black. Yeah. The haters? The haters, bro.

I'm going to be honest with you. I can't think a one woman that's been on brilliant idiots that, well, jazz, jazz is the only woman I think that's been on brilliant idiots that people actually like. Well, bless her. God bless. Can you think of another one show?

I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. I think they intentionally don't want to like you. They don't like you girls. This is a boys' podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but that particular episode was the one that really set the tone for me to be like, all right, you got to be unfazed. Like, it was crazy.

What was the one, what was one comment that you remember that, like, what I just said? What was it? I mean, it was just a lot of the same conversation and people telling me what I am in my history. That bothers you for a lot? It does bother me because if I'm having an honest conversation about my lack of family history or whatever, I don't feel. fucking know you from a hole in the wall for you to tell me anything about myself. That's the whole point. You don't know them.

So why are you getting upset? I know you're not talking. I am talking. What do I get upset about? Teller me. Stop. Why have I got upset? She's locking people.

It just goes back to my point about what we're talking about. Like, there's a lot of people who are talking that don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Well, what are you, Ivy? Because, listen, Ivy, I didn't know Ivy and 6'9 grew up to go. Oh, my God. No. They went to the same late school. Why?

You stuck that to me. You go to the deli. I did not say that to you. You said you went to the deli and you got into the same high school. But you know him from Brooklyn, all right? Oh, my God. What I said was he worked at a deli that was very near to my high school. We probably crossed paths, but I never knew him by name.

He didn't know me by name. Did he give you free? There's a real Latin community in this area. What area of Brooklyn is there? Bushwick. Bushwick. Okay. Bushwick.

So what happened like at the deli? I am not Mexican. I'm Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico. I'm second generation. My parents were born and raised in Bedstai, and that's as much as I know. Got you.

That's as much as I know. They're there. They're everywhere. Huh? What you mean, huh? I'm retarded with this type of stuff. I don't know who's who. I just find that Russian is not Polish.

What? What? That's a random ass. What is going on? I don't even know if that's true. White people, is Russian Polish? No. Poland is its own country.

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Rest in peace to Paul Mooney, bro. Oh man, rest in peace to the great Paul Mooney. One of the best comics to ever do it. RIP. We're sitting on a Breakfast Club interview from 2011 with Paul Mooney that we never put out. Wow, boy. I don't know why we didn't put out. I really, I'm trying to, I'm actually, I just got it in my email.

Wild boy. I got to watch it. No, I love Paul Moly. I've been to Paul Mooney shows and seen him make people walk out. I need to watch that interview and see, why didn't we put this out in 2011? I don't know. but rest in peace to him. What else we got?

Ellen's out. How you feel about that, Schultz? I just didn't like her her whole reasoning. What was the reasoning? I forgot. She's like, it's not a challenge anymore. Yeah. I believe that.

I believe that, bro. I believe that, bro. I believe that. Huh? It is a challenge. The show is tanking. Yeah, but she's been off for 19 years. I did believe that one. And what's crazy is this the only fucked up thing

about that situation? if she signed the contract and she knew her contract was up in three years and she knew she wanted to walk away now she don't go to now she don't get to walk away on her terms

you know what I'm saying she don't get to walk away like Jordan with the jazz she's walking away like Jordan with the Wizards you know what I mean because everybody thinks the shit is the turmoil

because of you know all that stuff that happened last year so she don't get to walk away on her own terms that's about it that's the only thing I do I thought they fired her ass

because they didn't want to pay her all that money for a show that wasn't getting any ratings. I mean, yo, 19 years, she won already. Yes. No, she won, but I thought the, she didn't really resign.

I thought the network was like, yo, it's time, yeah, we can't pay you all these millions when nobody's watching your show. So we can fire you or you can fire you. And she lost a mad revenue too, so it's possible. It's possible. Oh, you said she came out. What else? What else we got?

Yes, a salute to South Carolina State University. They gave me an honorary doctorate. Oh, shit. This is huge. So you're a doctor. So like, are you a legit doctor now? How does it work? I'm not a legit doctor, but I did get an honorary doctorate.

So you can refer to me as Dr. Leonard McKelby. But I would never disrespect the people that are really out there putting in that work. But you have a doctorate because you made the commencement speech, right? Well, I mean, also because of like my philanthropy in South Carolina and, you know, things like that. And because of what I've done? So what are you a doctor at? So your actions hoped you skipped the line to, got it. There you go.

But what are you a doctor at? You're a doctor of what? You're a doctor of what? Shut up. That's a dentist. Shut up. It's an honorary doctorate. They honor you for your accomplishments.

Your accomplishments. What specifically? So you've done a lot. You've done a lot. Are you a doctor? I sat there and I listened to President Clark. Run down about six minutes of accolades. And I was like, who the fuck is he talking about?

They wrote it up good. It was really good for me. That's what I'm saying. Clearly. clearly I've done a lot, you know, but he, yeah, he ran down a lot of different accolades and, you know, ran down a lot of philanthropy. He left a few things out, but, you know, you can't get everything, you know, but, you know, like, I'm not, I put on for my people. That's all, you know. But, listen, all I think that's so cool.

I think you should make people call you doctor. Like, you're crazy if you don't make people call you doctor. You think so? Yes, dude. I'm going to talk to you, Dr. Dr. the God. And now he can do heart surgery better than you now. He said Dr. God.

I'm dead. Your yoga pants is wild, son. That's my diagnosis. Why are you looking at my stuff? I'm chilling. Those are not yoga pants. They have no stretch. You sure?

These are caches. These cargoes. It's not. His cargo is like no stretch. That cargo van need to be bigger, bro. You can't fit much in that cargo van except for a bed. They do look small. I go shopping by myself

My girl is not with me right now So until she come with me I got a shot I don't look at my sizes He said you need to grow up Listen really even my drawers And stuff like that Like I bought some dry

It looks like he took his pants out of the dryer And was like damn Listen I'm telling you my dog He probably said him on a homeless person Oh he's good for that He good to take some shit right out to wash You know one day Listen one day is me and my dad in the car right

Wax gets in my dad goes He's working out He was the, boy, you've been working out? Why he smelled like that, boy? This motherfucker took his pants right out the wash. They weren't even dry and put them on. No, you know what happened? I left out.

You came, I was going somewhere. When I came back, I just forgot to put the dryer on. So I just threw my stuff out of the dryer. You were smelling like bomba. What about hell? You just put it in? You were smelling like bumbau. That's terrible.

What is bumbau? Bombat. It's like mildew. Yeah. It was wild. Like when you forget to dry your clothes Yeah, yeah. Limithol cleans that, right?

What? I wash my clothes. They cleans Toto. What is Toto? Vagina. Oh, shit. You, so all you did was wash your shit stains out. And then you didn't.

And I put it into the dryer. So you put on wet clothes is what you're saying. No, I just put it in the dry and I just left the house. It was him. You put on dance clothes? It was a side. I don't know how to wash clothes. This is okay.

Put no soap in the washer either. You just put water. You nasty. In pants. I'm one of the guys who really need a wife. I need a girl. I'm not the number of you. You're not made to do that either.

You're one of the guys that really need to learn. Like, come on. We don't want you to fall. That's right. We don't want you to fall. Let's do some asking idiots, man. And get up out of here. That's right.

We don't want you to fall wax. We want you to learn. Well, I'm not going to talk. You didn't want to talk about the, um, Taylor, if you don't start the ask idiots. Excuse me. Sure. I mean, yeah, shorts.

Relax. I'm trying to make y'all. Y'all get all the content because people was asking. They only care about the first part. Okay. They only don't care about the first hour. I think we'll be fine this week. All right.

So, um, I didn't pick these, by the way. But fuck you care for. Fuck you care for. Who is your funniest comedian friend. Non-comedian. Non-comedian friend. Who's my fun? I got so many of those. I mean, wax is one of them.

Oh, yeah, waxed. My cousin Kente is hilarious. I think DJ Envy is hilarious, just existing. Envy just makes me laugh all the time. He's hilarious. I got a bunch of those. I don't know what I mean. I like, I like fun people. I like people that like to laugh. So it's just like everybody, I mean, I got a lot of Ashley. that AJ, you know what I mean, from We Talk Back podcast. Like, she's funny as fuck. Like, I got a lot of those. I don't know.

Who's your funniest non-comedian friend, Shultz? Shit. I don't know. I have a bunch of funny friends. Wax is pretty goddamn funny. Without even trying. Look at his pants. I bought my own clothes.

I don't know what you want to do. But he's matching? I don't. Listen, you know what he's amazing? At least his ankle's not out. Yes. They are. I mean, he got socks to cover it.

I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. You got Tim's on an 85 degree weather. Listen, you know what's crazy? I refuse to go in the dressing room because I think it's for ladies. So I just put it next to me and I leave out. He said, what the fuck? Like, you're listening to me all.

Inside the fucking dressing room and try some shit off? I think Wax does that to look less suspicious. You know what I mean? Because if you see a big dude like that with them tight-ass pants, you don't think he's up to nothing. Yeah, you leave me alone.

I mean, you might flirt with him, but that's about it. It's not that tight. I've been doing a lot of deadlifts. Give us another one, Taylor. Okay. Ezrardo Gonzalez wants to know if Andrew and Charlemagne switch bodies

and the only way to switch back is by having sex with each other. How long would you two live as each other before changing back? Get the loaves, show. Let's do it. We got to get back to my life, baby. How long though?

I got to get back to my life. Just don't tell nobody without a lot. like naked. Let's figure this out. But I will say it. I'm definitely dropping some M-bombs while we fucking That's for fast for sure. Yeah.

Yeah. Take that big dick. Take that big. You like that white boy? You like that white boy? That's hilarious. Oh, that is so stupid.

That's funny. Nah, you got to get back to life, man. That would just be us. That'd be our secret. By the way, we're not talking about my little secret. By the way, nobody would believe that. No. Yeah.

You imagine if somebody walked in on us and that's how we explained it. Nah, bro, you don't understand. We're trying to switch back. That would be fun. That's a funny short film, bro. That is a funny fucking short film. Somebody switches our bodies. And the only way to get back.

our bodies, we gotta fuck each other. And Alex and Wax walking on us. And we're trying to explain why we're fucking. No, no, we all. Wait, who'll be the top? Who'll be the bottom? That's a real question. No, but what you think with me, Alex, going to do?

Rich after that. Shit. Y'all shit, help. Help us fucking. Oh, my God. Don't you want your friend back? You got to grab his ass and push. Not push.

You got to say. In the middle of the day, no way. Oh, man. Give us another one, Taylor, again. Well, y'all ain't answered the question. Who's going to be the top of the bottom with it? Now, see, that wasn't part. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

That's not in there. So what's, huh? Next question, yo. Why are you starting to make this game? You got to answer you all in the tail-law. You got to say who's going to be the power top. We already said we're fucking. What does it matter?

You're making this gay for no reason, yo. And I'll tell you who's on top. Whoever got the smaller dick, that's who's on her. the top. Word is born. That's what you got to think about. That's how we all decide. We're virgined.

Nice. We virgins out of here. Like I said, we virgins. Okay. You want me to bust it open? Oh, my God. Imagine that conversation. Jay.

How big is yours? I think it's next to each other. Jay, I underscore Rogers, underscure Fitt. What's it? No. Hold on, I got to ask wax. For wax.

Yes, please. If you and Eden. Edon. Edon. If you and Edd and Twitch body. He never going to remember anything. And then listen, the only way to get your body back is the fuck Edd. Wax, please, though.

I'm going to have to be wax. I'll be Mexican for the rest of my life. No, you would. You would. No, you wouldn't. I'm going to have to be wax my life. I'll be fucking drinking coronas. Okay.

All right. What if Edon? Don't say nothing. you. By the way, if you go around your family saying,

yo, I'm really waxed. They're going to say, if you don't get the fuck out of here. He don't fuck you up. My family going to fuck you up.

No, they're not because they're going to see his body. They just go like, what's wrong with wax? No, they're going to fuck him up.

They see him and try to act like he wax. My family going to fuck him up. He's you. He's got your body, everything. Edens's his personality

in your body. I think he'll give you wax. Huh? Edon's personality's in your body. Y'all switched. So your consciousness is in Edens' body. Edens' body is in your consciousness. No, your consciousness is in Edd's consciousness is in your body.

There you go. All right. So he's going to be me, but black, and I'm going to be him. No, he's going to be your body. He's going to look like you. Never mind. All right there. So he's going to be going to my family.

Looking like you. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So if I go and I'll be acting like him, oh, he's cool. I'm chilling. No, you're going to have his body. You're going to be in his body.

Stop saying different things. If I'm going to be his fucking body, they're not going to like this, nigga. You're him. Okay, I'm him. Yes, now you look like him, everything. You're him. Okay. Yes.

So if I go to his family house, how am I going to look? Like him. And he looks like you. But you're going to act like you. But he act like, I act like him, though. Yes. But I'm really mad. That shit will be so funny waxing Eddden's body.

Imagine him trying to fight thinking he still can feel. fight. That shit will be hilarious. I don't have to build like you do. I get it. Okay, let me ask Edin. Edin, you fucking to get your body back?

No, I'm going to have to be waxed for the rest of my life. He'd be happy as hell to be wax. Yeah, I wouldn't be mad. Shit, I like him. You can't wait for your clothes and nothing. I wore a sweat. I wore a pants. I'm chilling, you know?

Chilling. Yo. So you ain't fucking to get your body back? Oh, no. Cap. Yeah, I think that's beyond cap. No. Now, give us another one.

All right. So Jay Underscore Rogers, underscore Fitt wants to know if you could be a professional and anything of what, outside of what you do now, what would it be? I want to do a fighter. I want to fly planes and, like, shoot people with them. What's that, Air Force? Air Force. Yeah. Fighter pilot.

Yeah, fighter pilot. What about you, Shultz? Yeah, I mean, I would have loved to play basketball. That'd be amazing. Hmm. I'm trying to think. But yeah, basketball maybe. I would be a psychiatrist.

I was going to say you should be like a history teacher or something. I'd be a psychiatrist. It's a lot of reader. What about you, Ivy? What would you be? If you could be a professional or anything outside of what you do now, what would it be? Oh, shit. I didn't think that question was coming to me.

A motherfucker hustler. What was that at? That's what I am now. That's right. That was a soup dog, right? I don't know I don't know What did you want to be before entertainment

Are you always wanted to be in entertainment? I always wanted to be in entertainment Wow Yeah, wow I wanted I wanted to be J-Lo specifically I didn't know what the fuck that meant at the time What about Selena? Well

There's Mexican jailers I don't know who's who Well I discovered J-Lo because of the movie Selena so There you are Interesting What would you be Taylor I'm like Ivy

I want to be in entertainment, but if not, something creative. Like, I like drawing art and all that stuff. Drawling. All right, guys. I think we did it. Boy, you don't want to do that last one? What's the last one? What is it?

If you could travel back in time to slap one person in history, who would it be? Oh, fuck. Christopher Columbus. Ah, come on with this. What Christopher Columbus is? It's, huh. Come on with this question. Now we got to decide.

who we care about most. Who's the real sacrifice here? I get it. I don't want to slap nobody. My aura is beautiful, man. Oh, my gosh. I'm all about peace. Let's pause the aura.

What are we doing? Who is slapping? I don't want to slap nobody, we get to slap the person. Tell Wax to do it. Yeah, I got them. Who you want to slap? Who you want to slap?

Who you want to slap? So he'll do it for you. I already know who Wax wants to slap. I can't even like, who? He got a list. I know. I already know. Like one of them.

Here she go, Hunter. Hunter. Hunter, whatever his name. That's Wedgy. Life slapping him. This is a little wedging. I don't care about that. I promise you, my aura is beautiful, bro.

There's nobody I have any issues with as far as physical altercations. I don't even care. God bless them. Because one thing I've learned about life, there is nothing you can do that will hurt somebody more than someone with negative karma in regards to the universe. The universe will, the universe will. The universe will. will lay out a plan so beautiful and the universe will have a script

so ready for that person. You couldn't, you know how they say, I couldn't even script that. I couldn't plan that if I tried. That's it. That's life. I just sit back and I just watch. That's all.

No, you want to slap Christopher Columbus, though. Why do you want slap him? Why do you want to slap him? He sold the C and grabbed all the people, right? I think I've got the right proofs. I don't know. Okay, man. Sounds good.

What did he do? All right. Guys, you don't even know what he did. You want to slap it. To be continued. We get it, though. We get it.

We get it. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, next week we'll tell you what Christopher Columbus did. Anybody who does it know. Here more on bullying the beast. This is all wax. As always, Ivy, any parting word? Do you want to give much of Twitter and Instagrams?

Sure. You can follow me. Yeah, slander me. You can follow me on all social media platforms at the Ivy Revival. T-H-E-I-V-Y-R-I-V-E-R-A. Stay tuned. That's right. And if you listen to this podcast,

you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit. You're right to.

It's the brilliant idiot's podcast. Thank you for listening. And as always, we recorded at W-T-F Media. Media. The home of Alex, Luther King, Black, X.

Okay. I like that first part. And Weezy F might be a black baby. Okay. All right. Have a good day.