The Brilliant Idiots - Feel The Feels

Episode Date: June 12, 2020

This week Charlamagne and and Andrew talk about what defund the police means, politicians in Kente cloth, Mental health, and Charlamagne talks about the recent passing of his close friend and friend to the podcast JasFly #RIPJasfly Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's so stupid. It's positively brilliant. Yep, Shalamanyagat. Andrew Schultz. We are the Brilliant Idiot's Podcast. Thank you for tuning into another week, another quarantined week, or at least quarantine for me. Andrew, been back out there in them streets. In them streets, bro.

I'll be joining you soon. What were you on, Phase 2 in New York, I think? I don't know what phase it is, to be honest. I was out in L.A., obviously, doing Rogan, but I went up to as... Rogan. S.B. to be with my girl and her family and I went out to a restaurant, bro.

I went to two restaurants. Really? Oh, you're living life on the edge, edge. Brough. Wow. How was it? Honestly, it was great. It was just, it was nice to see people being normal.

You know, like people sitting down, having some food, having conversation. Like, yeah, the waiter still comes up to you with a face mask on, but it's just nice. It's like, nice to see people living life as we usually live it again. Well, we're not. This is like that exhibit video.

I don't know if you remember that video. What you see is what you get when Exhibit was just walking through his neighborhood, acting like everything was normal. But it was all types of wild shit going on behind him. Shit was blowing up. People was getting shot. Helicopters were crashing. That's where we're at right now.

We can act like it's normal, but it's not normal. Yeah. I guess I would say that like, I would say like this is part of our normal in America. This is not a new thing. like the fight for civil rights is not a new thing. That's, you know, been part of the American existence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a failure of the American existence,

but it's something we're trying to perfect. Poverty. Poverty is definitely not a new thing. Poverty is not a new thing, 100%. You know, I don't know how we get rid of all poverty. Maybe we just make life better for the poor, but in order to have rich people, there has to be poor people. Not really. You don't have to be poor.

You can still have rich people. matter of fact, the rich will actually get richer if more people have money. There got to be poor people somewhere in order for capitalism to function. What do you call poor, though? Like, what is poor? Relative poor, right? So it's like the genius thing I think that, well, I don't know, it's genius or nefarious, but like that America did is like,

they're like, all right, bet. Instead of exploiting American workers, we'll exploit Chinese ones because it's way cheaper over there. or we'll exploit labor over there because capitalism needs somebody to exploit. There's no way that you can get the type of wealth that you want by paying somebody what they're worth. Yeah, but I don't think that a person has to be poor, though.

Right, but I guess I'm saying like poor in comparison. I think everybody can have a livable wage. I think America has enough resources to where everybody can have a livable wage. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, we can make life better for the poor. Like, and maybe don't even call them poor. Maybe call them.

I don't know. Humans? Humans? Humans that can pay their rent? Humans that can pay their... Wealthily challenged or something like that. Financially challenged. Financially challenged.

But, no, I get it. I get it. It's always going to be a class system that I know. Yes. That I know. That I know. And that's not necessarily wrong as long as you're not mistreating people because they're not as wealthy.

Like, it's okay that people have way more money than me. and it's okay that people have way less than money to me as long as those people with way less aren't dying because of it as long as they're comfortably living and they have the opportunity

to get the same amount as me and more, as long as they have that same opportunity and they're okay at the lower end, I'm cool with that society. I think it's like a video game, right? America has created this

capitalist free enterprise system that if you have the opportunity, if you have the resources, you can create something that can financially set you up for life, right? Yep. But what America also did was systemically cut people off from those resources and from that opportunity. So therefore, what about them?

What about those have nots? You know what I mean? Like we have to provide resources and opportunity for them to be able to compete. And by the way, the best idea is come from the bottom. Yep. best ideas I think come from the bottom. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, that's all.

We just got to create a, we got to create a class system where everybody can compete. That's why I'm all for the livable wage. I'm for, I've been thinking a lot about universal basic income, you know, universal health care. I think giving people $1,000 a month isn't a bad thing. Do you give everybody $1,000 a month that's equivalent to giving nobody anything? Depends.

Just don't let inflation happen. Well, how do you do that? I don't know. when you're printing money. I don't know. Inflation happens when you print money, man. I don't know. Maybe don't let inflation happen in certain places.

For example. Like the cities where there's the poor and disenfranchised. You know what I'm saying? In these cities that have, in these cities that literally, you know, the engine of these cities are that have nots. Right. Keep things the way that they are. It would be tough to restrict interstate commerce that would create that inflation, right?

I mean, like. But can't you? put laws on these companies and these corporations not to do inflation, though? Don't they do that during hurricanes and shit like that when it's a natural disaster and these people try to spike things up? Yeah, but that's a little different than inflation. You're talking about price gouging, and that's illegal. Like when everybody needs toilet paper, all the sudden, you know, toilet paper costs twice as

much. That's illegal, right? But don't do that. No price gouging. Yeah, 100%. That's already illegal. Can't do it. But inflation is really a function of how much money is in the economy versus how. how many goods are in the economy. And when you have more money than there are things to buy, it's a bad look. You'll never have, listen, America will,

I think we talked about this couple weeks ago, America will never run out of things to buy. Bro, somebody got rich off to Chia Pet in America. We have to think about these type of things. Think about the type of things people buy here. Yeah. They will buy bullshit. There is no better place to sell bullshit than America.

Why do you think people come here? Because they want to buy bullshit? No, they come here to say. sell bullshit. They're like, oh, they're selling bullshit in America. You can get rich selling bullshit. Let's go to America. And they come up with crazy-ass ideas and crazy-ass Americans buy them.

Yeah. Like, what's the last bullshit? What was the last really bullshit idea America was craving? Not the Popeye's chicken sandwich. That bought people joy. What's the last thing that everybody's like, I need that? It was the last thing everybody wanted. Couldn't resist.

I can't remember right now. It'll come to me later. But fucking me Elmo or some shit. Ticklemy Elmo Are y'all frozen? No Oh I just stayed there

What happened Listen let's get in some positively brilliant And what a fucking idiot man What did you see this week That was positively brilliant That was positively brilliant Oh you know what I saw that was positively brilliant What the Democratic senators did

With the Kente cloth and taking a knee Get the fuck out of him No dead ass Why was that brilliant because they out-Trumped Trump. No, they didn't. They did. I think they actually pissed their base off.

Listen, we don't like Democrats to pander. That white conda shit they pulled with fucking Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and all of them. It's like, I don't care about that. I care about policies and legislation. Yes, that's true. That's what I care about. That's true. But the reason Trump is president is because he found a way to dominate the conversation

In the same way, Takashi 6-9 is a famous rapper. He found a way to dominate the conversation, right? They understand the value of attention. And for a whole few days, everybody was meming and focusing solely on that picture. So, yeah, they knew it was pandering. Yeah, they knew it was stupid. But they knew for two or three days

they could take all the attention away from Trump. And with Trump doesn't have attention, he has no power. That motherfucker is like, attention is like the son for him. That gives him all his power. So they took that shit away from him. and if they can continue doing it with goofy-ass antics like that, you're good to go.

The Democrats' supporters hate Trump so much. They're not going to vote for him no matter what the Democrats do. You got to back it up with policy, bro. It was savvy marketing. Trump used to back his shit up with policy. Even if it was the most simple shit like build the wall, or the Mexicans are taking jobs from you. We got to fucking get them out of the country.

He still had some messaging in it. What policy does the Democrats have? Like what are their policies? What they, today, that day they had released the Justice in Policing Act, which banned. I mean, it's a lot of stuff in it, but some of the main things was it banned chokeholds that killed. Eric Garner? Not Eric Garner, Floyd. George Floyd.

George Floyd. George Floyd. I'm sorry. It stopped no, no knock drug entry. That's how Brianna Taylor got killed. So, I mean, it has, it was a good. a good law. It's a good comprehensive police reform bill. They were not, that they're trying to get passed, but the sentence probably going to block it.

The more I read about this Brianna Taylor story, the more absolutely ridiculous it is that there has not been any arrests made about this. It makes no sense. This is crazy. It makes no sense. And I'll put them in the what-a-fucking idiot category. First of all, you raid the wrong house. Right. Right. The person that they were looking at, before I already was in jail, right? Yeah. But they give you the warrant for the wrong house. Then you raid the house.

The guy... They gave you a warrant. They gave them a warrant for the wrong house? I didn't need that. Yes. Yeah. So they did go to the house that they thought they were supposed to go to. No. They went to the wrong house.

But did they go to the house that was on the warrant? No. Oh, okay. So they went to the wrong house. Yeah, they went to the wrong house. So they kicked the door in. The boyfriend does what he's supposed to do. You sitting in your house in the middle of the night.

you hear somebody kick the door and grab your motherfucking hammer. Saw blasting, right? He got arrested. His charges got dropped. I think his charges got dropped. I'm pretty sure his charges got dropped. And Rihanna Taylor's dead. And when you look at the police report, they basically tried to cover the whole shit up.

Yeah, didn't they say that the body didn't get to the hospital or something like that? Yep. Yep. Son, this is crazy. This is America. This one is the craziest. And this is the difference when you got a video. When you got a video, it makes it real.

When there's no video is hearsay. I said the same thing. I said the exact same thing. I said the exact same thing you said. I said the reason Brianna Taylor is not getting the attention that she should get is because there's no video.

Like Ahmed Aubrey, there was a video. You know, George Floyd, there was a video. With Brianna Taylor, there's no video. It's just hearsay so you don't see how bad it is. You hear the 911 call, but if we actually saw the police kicking the door and in the wrong house and then just lighten that place up,

it'll be a total type of outrage. Where are all the animators at? animate these fucking killings, bro. Animate these killings. Give all the details in the animation and show what's going on and people will pass that shit around, dude. I bet they really will.

You have all the information. You have what transpired before and you have what transpired after and how fucked up it is, how they try to cover it up. Yeah, but then people will just say, oh, they're exaggerating. You know what I mean?

Good. Let them say it. Let them say they're exact. At least people will know the full details of what went on. I think most people just hear Breonna Taylor and they're like, oh, another person they got shot by the police. They don't know the full extent to what went down

and the cover-up efforts made. I mean, it's unbelievable. And what you said is true, right? Like, details matter. The reason, you know, George Floyd is hitting the way that is hitting to a lot of people is because they sat there and they watched eight minutes and 46 seconds of a man who had his hands in his pockets,

office on his neck, two other officers on him, people telling them to get off, clearly not resisting, calling out for his mom. Like, it was just like, y'all really murdered that man. So you saw, just the blatant disregard for human life. If you saw that in the Breonna teller case

and you knew that they just ran a banana, you can't say my bad on some shit like that. Yep. That's not a my bad. You know what I'm saying? That's not a, you know, at first you don't succeed, dust yourself off and try again.

Yeah. That's not what that was. You run up in the wrong house, kill somebody that doesn't deserve to be dead, and then you just go live your life like it's golden. You get administrative leave? Fuck that. Nah, baby.

Nah, nah, fuck all that. Yeah. What's your whole take on defund the police? Maybe we should get into that, talk about that, explain that. I think it's, I don't want to say positively brilliant, but it's not positively brilliant. If it was positively brilliant, messaging matters. And messaging, you know, every word has to count.

So when people here defund the police, they think defund the police, take all the money out of the police department. I don't know why some people thought, you know, about, I don't know why they were even talking about disbanding and abolishing because that never crossed my mind. When I heard defund the police, I was like, okay, take all the money from the police officers. But when you read what defund the police means is they want to take money out of these bloated police budgets and put them into communities that need them, which makes absolute sense. Because why does New York City have a $6 billion police budget? Take a couple of those billion and put them into the hoods. the city that need them, put them into the schools, give people better housing, create job training

programs, create motherfucking STEM programs, you know, put more money in social services so people can have better mental health services at their disposal. Like once you do that, then what happens is the hood has opportunities now. They say that crime is a result of relative poverty, not just poverty. not just poverty. Yes. Right. Okay. Hair coming in.

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That hair line, bro. But where was that? Poverty. He said poverty. In cities where poverty is down. It's a relative poverty. It's like, crime is a function of relative poverty. That's what they

say where it's like there's a lot of crime in places where there's poor people living right next really rich people. But if everybody's poor, there's not that much crime because it's like, well, yeah, that's just life. Right? Yes. So I guess what they're saying is is take some of that money and invest it

in things that would reduce the poverty if the poverty is a thing that causes the crime. It's so fucking simple. State jobs, other things, other opportunities that people can do, not just simply giving people money to put in their pockets, but giving the places they could potentially work. You fix the schools up. Better education. You fix the housing up. People got a better place to live

so they're waking up and they're feeling better about their life. Right. Put the money into social services so you can have mental health care for these people in the hood. Job training programs. Teach people how to work. Trade school. STEM. Prepare them for the 21st century. What the fuck? So I will say this. Calling it defunding the police is quite possibly the worst marketing ever done in the history of humankind. Because when I hear the word detach, I don't think detach your arm. I don't think take a little piece of your arm

and then put it somewhere else. I think take the whole arm, right? If I'm going to get a detox, I'm going to get all the toxins taken out of my body. Anytime the preface D is before a word, right? It's take everything that comes after it. Like this dick! There we go.

Take this ick! All right. So it's like, of course people are going to naturally have this reaction where they go, fuck that, we can't have this, etc. If they said reallocate the police, I'd be like, okay, talk to me. Because apparently what they're also thinking of doing is doing things that police have been asking for. There's this sheriff in like Houston or like police commissioner, and I think it was Houston. I forget the exact city. But he basically was like, why are police being called if there's a cat,

in a tree? Why are police being called if somebody is mentally ill? Why are police being called if an animal escapes from the zoo? That's not our job. You have to let us focus on the things that we're doing and then stop putting everything under the police belt because you don't want to fund these other organizations. That is very true. So if even the police agree with that shit, then let's go. I agree. Especially when you can't even get police officers to do wellness checks on people that you think may be suffering from some type of mental illness. You know what I'm saying? They'll tell you dumb shit, like, well, if she hasn't hurt herself or he hasn't hurt herself or hurt somebody, we can't do no wellness checks. Get the fuck out of here. You know what I mean? Like,

you got to wait till it's too late. So yeah, I agree with you. I think they should have called it remix the police. I like it. You got talking these kids' language, baby. I like that. You know what I'm saying? And then you go, then that's when Joe Biden, you reach out to Diddy. I said, Diddy, I need you to do a little, little commercial for me called Remix the police since you invented the remix. You know what I mean? And that's what I, and honestly, that's what I would do. Like, even what Joe Biden is saying about, about reform. First of all, let's be clear. I don't know why Democrats can't get their messaging, right? I really don't. Like, I watched Joe Biden fumbled that defund the police question so bad.

What he said? What he asked him, does he believe in defunding the police? He said no. You support defunding the police. No, I don't support defunding the police. I support conditioning federal aid to police based on whether or not they meet certain basic standards of decency on honorableness. in fact, are able to demonstrate they can protect the community and everybody in the community. You know, he has this plan where he wants to put $300 million

into policing to help reform policing and help community policing. And I'm like, you got to really think about how do you're American people? American people are in the streets right now protesting against police brutality, right?

So if they think defund the police is a good idea, because they're the ones out there championing, defund the police, defund the police, defund the police, you have to know how to answer that question better. Trump fucking set them up because Trump and then went out there and said they wanted to defund the police and then that's what they said afterwards.

They want to abolish the police. They want to get rid of the police. It's not the same thing. They put defund, abolish, and get rid of all in one sentence. And it fucked the Democrats up. So now they were playing defense

when they could have just been on offense. Senator Kamala Harris bodyed it on the view. What she said? Taylor, play this clip. We have confused the idea that to achieve safety, you put more cops on the street. Instead of understanding to achieve safe and healthy communities, you put more resources into the public education system of those communities, into affordable housing, into home ownership,

into access to capital for small businesses, access to health care regardless of how much money people have. That's how you achieve safe and healthy community. And so we really do need to understand and reimagine what and how we can actually make and help make communities safe. Megan McCain was slick enough to go, well, yeah, of course, but do you believe in defunding the police? Senator Harris says, what do you mean by defunding the police? What do you mean by defunding the police? You know why?

Everybody got different definition. Everybody got their own definition. Words don't fucking matter. They do what they don't. You got to be real specific with those words, bro. You got to be specific. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I was thinking this past weekend.

I wonder, yo, I know Chris is, is, is, by the way, Chris is in the hospital. He's okay. It's not Corona. It's a kidney stone. Allegedly. And I wonder if he has some perspective on this too. But like, maybe it should be illegal for police or other essential workers to, you. unionize against the government or to strike against the government.

Like, okay, so like, let's say, for example, me and you got a factory, right, to make shoes, right? And then the workers want to unionize and they want to go on strike so they can get better wages, right? Me and you are personally invested in that factory and we want to make sure the factory makes money. So when we're in the negotiation with the unions, we're not going to give the shoe factory union that much because that's going to come out of pocket. But if you're a government worker that's negotiating with the unions and you're going to be out of your job in two or three years anyway, you don't give a fuck how they figure that shit out in the future. You're just going to let the unions get whatever they want because you're like, I don't got any stake in this anyway. So the unions bully the government and they get all these

crazy rules built in where like you get whatever your last year of work is, you get that for the rest of your life and your pension so that they back, they like super load that last year, their last year, they'll do tons of overtime, they'll do tons of extra shit. So they go, their salary goes from 100 to 150,000 last year. And then they carry that pension forever as it goes on. And I think that's why these budgets are so swollen. I don't know anything about what you're talking about. But I don't know. I have no idea of anything you're talking about. But I would say people don't retire, bro. Who retires? Well, it's 20 and out or 25 and out. That's the goal. And those jobs, you retire because you,

you have this amazing pension. Once you do 20 or 25 years, you get 100% of, is 100% Al? Or 80% or something? It's a little bit lower, but it's a little bit lower, but it's significant amount of money for the rest of your life.

I would love to hear how often that happens. I'm serious, I would love to hear how often. How often does that happen, Al. Al used to be in law enforcement. Yeah, like everybody retires. The goal is you start young, you retire, and then you get a second career. So now you have a second career

and you're getting your retirement at the same time. And so you get 80, Go go. No, that's what I was about to say. Like, the second career, a lot of people don't ever get to that point. Because to retire, I always was told retirement,

it's not an age, it's an income. I can't retire after 25 years if I can't afford to. But what we're saying is you have this thing built in, your pension, right? So when you retire as a police officer after 20 or 25 years,

you get paid 80%, maybe even 100% in some places, but at least like 80% of your salary that lasts your site for the rest of your life. I'm sure it happens. I've just never seen it. I've never even seen it in movies. In movies,

it's always the goddamn officer who's just about to get his pension who gets fucking killed. Remember in training day? That's a movie, gentlemen. Are you saying you don't believe that police officers make it to their pension? I don't know, man.

I got to see... I don't understand what you're saying, I don't know, bro. I need to see... I'm not saying that it don't happen. I need to see some recent examples. Not some shit that happened in the 60s, 70s. I need to see some motherfaciest.

that started in the 90s and they living good off their pension right now. So what do you think happens to them? They just die right before? Yes. If every policeman died the year before their pension, we would be having a way different protests right now. I don't know, man. I got to see it to believe it.

I'm not saying it don't happen. All I'm simply saying is I have never seen it. How do you believe in Sasquatch and not pensions? Well, it's pictures of Sasquatch. I ain't never seen a police officer holding up his goddamn picture. I was on Rogan and he made an argument for Sasquatch. I saw it. He's right.

But I've been saying that. Like a Sasquas was just a primate. It literally was a primate in the woods. And it came here over that land bridge or whatever from. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I never, I never looked at Sasquas as any like huge mystical, mythical creature.

Right. If you were a Native American back then growing up in that era, And you saw that shit, you'd be like, what the fuck? You probably would worship it. You know what I mean? I would bow down to it. But I never thought it was anything else. It's one. Taylor just texted me and said it's half.

It's half your one and a half salary after 22 years. I don't even know what the fuck that means. What's that mean? I have no clue what Taylor's talking about right now. Yeah, I saw that segment. I like you and Rogan together, man. I'm going to miss Rogan on, on YouTube. Yeah, I know.

Because I'm not subscribing to Spotify. I don't have it. I just don't. But you don't have to subscribe. You can just watch it. I don't download it. I don't have it on my phone. Why?

I might go. You don't fuck with Spotify? You don't fuck with Spotify? I got too much shit on my phone now. I got app. I got fucking iTunes. I got title. I got eye heart.

I got fucking Instagram. I just got too much shit now. Like, the only reason I still catch Joe button podcast is because I watch the fucking YouTube clips. Right. And I don't even watch the whole episodes. I just watch certain clips. Yeah.

So that's thing, Rogan's going to keep his clips on YouTube. The clips ain't going anywhere. Oh, the clips can stay on YouTube. Yeah. Oh, because I thought that he had to, because I thought Spotify had the new video platform. They're going to do video. The full episode video is going to be on Spotify,

but the clips are going to still be on YouTube. And I think that's smart of Spotify because the clips of the advertisement. You know, you have the clips going out there, get everybody digests a little bit, a smaller version of it. And eventually you're like, oh, I got to check out this podcast.

I bet mad people listen to this podcast because they were watching clips of ours. No, I believe that. I totally believe that. 100%. Hold on. Clips are like the longer version of like a meme. You know how like all the memes popped up after like a crazy interview you had?

Like all them soldier boy memes popped up, you know? And it's like, but a few people are going to go, wait, what's this from? And then they're going to watch the whole episode and they're like, oh, shit, that's fire. And then you're going to do other interviews like, oh, I want to keep watching it. Yeah. I want to say to, I guess we're still doing positively brilliant with a fucking idiot. I'm going to be honest with you, man. I might have, we can, we got any bills to pay?

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Okay? Let's get back to the show. Talk to us, Charlotte. I mean, listen, I'd be totally honest. Like, I'm fucked up. I don't even, I don't even, I didn't want to do breakfast

club this morning. And I was looking forward to the podcast, you know, only because the podcast is, it is very therapeutic for me, only because it's a big difference between, you know, the long-form conversation that we have here and not so long conversation.

we have on the breakfast club. I just feel like I can express more of my, my thoughts here. But yeah, if y'all don't know, we lost the first guest ever on the Brilliant Idius podcast, literally the pilot episode, the episode when, you know,

we're like, all right, we're going to do a podcast. And, you know, Jazz Fly, Jasmine Waters was hanging out with me at the radio station like she used to do. She used to tend to do a lot when she was in New York. And it was like, yeah, we're going down to the engine. him to record.

And she was like, all, let's go. And it was called the Star Shame episode. Enterprise. The Star Shame Enterprise episode.

And, you know, yesterday about 1.30, I'm at the crib. I'm on the phone arguing with Van. I got to stop arguing with Van.

Every time I argue with Van, I always get the worst news. The last time, me and Van debate a lot. But when we're arguing, it's a different to the argument debate. When we're arguing,

or maybe I'm not going to say it's But this is a heated, heated debate? And I guess yesterday was kind of heated. Not heated, heated, but last time was in February. And I got a text from this, from Devy Dev. And Dev texted me to say, no, not Kobe. And Kobe Bryant died.

I'm like, oh, it. And yesterday I'm on the phone, Van, and I get a text from Dev. Well, Dev called me and I didn't pick up. And then she texts me, she said, call me 911. And then my wife hit me and was like, dead right now and I'm like oh shit what's going on so I hit dev that was like are you sitting down I'm like yeah and she's like jazz is no longer with us like what do you what are you talking about like jazz is no longer with her jazz is not here and I'm just like she's she's dead you know you never

get used to getting those kind of phone calls you never get used to hearing that kind of news but it's it's it's never expected right You know, when it just happens that way, you know, or when you get the news that way that fast. And it's just like, man, I'm fucked up. That was my homie, like in a real way. Like, like a real friend, like a person I would call on whenever I needed advice, the person I would call on just to randomly talk shit with

because Jazz Fly was absolutely one of the most intellectual people, one of the smartest people you would ever come across in your life. She literally did not see the world the way other people saw the world. And that's, I think, what made her such an amazing storyteller. And, you know, I was blown away not just by her art and her creative mind, but just her as a person. Like, I never met a person who always knew the right thing to say. Not only knew the right thing to say could always give you the right strategy on how to move. And when I think about how she used to do it, she never was telling you anything. She was talking you through it almost like a therapist.

And it's like she would even know the answer, but she would let you get to the answer yourself before she laid out exactly what it is you should be doing or how you should be doing. And I just always thought she was so, so, so dope for that. And man, you know, talking to her mom this morning talking to her pops, talking to her sister yesterday, talking to her brother. I'm just really sitting here in utter disbelief.

No, I'm not in disbelief. I'm just fucked up. I haven't compartmentalized all of my feelings. And it still really hasn't hit me yet. Are there any details about her death that are available? None that I mean, none that I'm going to give out. You know, that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the family. That's the family's, um, yeah, that's the family's choice and decision on when they want to, you know, reveal the details of the situation. Yeah. But only thing I can tell you, man, is, um, like, always check on your strong friends. Always, right? And, and, and don't just check on your strong friends.

strong friends, if you're the strong friend, which I know I am, but I have a lot of strong friends around me. Andrew, you're a strong friend. When you're a strong friend and somebody checks on you, be open to that check-in. You know what I'm saying?

Like you don't got a front for your people. You don't got a front for your family. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. When things aren't going the way that they, they should or you don't feel like your life is where it needs to be. If somebody's giving you that check-in, you have to open up and receive that. Because, you know, you can't help anybody if they aren't receptive to the help.

Why do you think it is that the strong friend often shuns the help? That they're so ready to give. Because they're the strong friend. They feel like they have to like uphold. an image to their friends or I don't think it's about image I think it's about when you're a strong person

a strong minded person I think that I think when you're a strong minded person you don't ever want to admit to yourself that shit might not be the way

you want it to be you know what I'm saying when you're a strong minded person you may not accept the fact that you might be having a weak moment because that kind of like defeats the whole purpose of you being strong, right? It attacks your identity in a way.

It attacks your fucking identity. Yeah, and it makes you start questioning yourself. And then, you know, that's when the anxiety kicks in and that's when the depression might kick in. And that's when the insecurities and you start questioning yourself and the low self-esteem kicks in. And it's just like, don't give a fuck how strong you are.

we all have the opportunity and we should all reserve the right to be weak. There's nothing wrong with it. Like that's just life. In life, there's going to be eves. There's going to be flows. It's going to be ups.

It's going to be downs. There's going to be moments when you're the strongest person in the room. There's going to be moments when you're the weakest person in the room with no fear. There's going to be moments when you, the person in the room with all of fear. You've got to embrace it all.

You have to embrace it all. You have to embrace it all, man. You really, really, really, really do. And that's why I'd be on everybody's ass about being as mentally healthy as possible. That's why I advocate, you know, from mental health the way that I do. I never considered myself a mental health advocate.

I just was a person telling my story. And I'm still telling my story because it's things that, you know, I have to deal with all the time. I'll be honest with you. Before hearing about the passing the jazz, I was so emotionally, mentally, and spiritually exhausted. Gone?

Exhausted. He said gone or good? Exhausted. Oh, exhausted. Exhausted. Yeah, I was so spiritually, mentally, and emotionally exhausted. I don't know if it was, you know, the George Floyd situation. I don't know if it was just like, how are we going to dismantle systemic racism?

I just feel like it was a lot. Like, it was real, real heavy. I sat in my basement on Saturday night. I had one glass of Casadragonis. I'm talking about like this much. I got halfway through that glass and I was listening to Jay-Z's title playlist. It's called Survival.

Songs to Songs of Survival. Crying my ass off for no reason. And I had a great week last week. I had a great week. I had a phenomenal week. I had a great week at radio. I had a great week out there talking about the situation that's going on in the world. I'm sitting in my crib.

I'm looking at my TV and I'm just sitting there sad as fuck. And I just felt so drained, emotionally, mentally and spiritually. I didn't know why. I even text, I text, I text, I text, I text, um, I text, um, I text, Naila and I text him. I don't know why I didn't text Taylor. We all on the same group chat. Oh, I know why. I know why I didn't text Taylor. Why? Because wax is on that group chat. That's why that's what it was. Waxing, wax. You know, honestly, I didn't think Wax,

Michaela and Taylor would have been sympathetic to me in that moment. I don't know. I just doubt me in a lot. Y'all bullies. I didn't feel like being bullied. I didn't need to hear any jokes. I mean, don't do that. I'm being honest. I needed sympathy. I really needed sympathy. I was having a very weak moment Saturday.

Charlie, I'm always sympathy. You are, but a little joke. And I would, listen, a little joke with a little levity would have been fine, you know? Wait, man. Whatever. I don't know. So I just, I just, I text, I text him and Naila and I just said, I'm sitting here crying my ass off. And Nile are going to text back shrooms.

with question marks. I'm like, you know, fucking strooms. I'm having a little drink and I'm just thinking about life. And I was feeling that feeling going into Monday, going into Tuesday. And then yesterday when I got that call,

it was almost like, aha, that's what this was about. I've been feeling like this. I've been feeling like this since Saturday. Right. And this what this was about. And, you know, I'll say this

I don't say too many details but I'm fucked up rest in peace jazz fly I don't know how I'm gonna get over this to be totally honest with you not not this one and you know we could talk about it a lot more later when more details of the situation

come out but yeah man she was a great soul a great person literally somebody in my circle that was ready for war at all times. Like, and always made so much goddamn sense that it, that, that,

that, yeah, man. She was, she was, um, she was incredibly fun to talk to because it felt like you were talking to someone who had it all figured out. Hmm.

And, kind of understood everything. And, uh, yeah, it was just, it was really pleasant. to talk to her. I mean, you're talking about, like, obviously, all of our conversations were

surrounding, you know, like, Hollywood and, like, how the game works and what's happening there. But, like, it felt like you were talking to someone who had, like, their ear to the door of all the crazy conversations that were going on. And I understand why you saw her as, like, a strong friend because you get comfort in talking to people who feel like they know exactly what's going on, especially when you're going through a time that could be chaotic. You don't know what's going on. You want some truth. You want something with a strong foundation. And I keep wondering, like, when you said that about check on your strong friends,

I'm like, do you think strong friends seem to know what's going on because not only what's going on the world, but like what's going on emotionally because they've felt it so deep? Wow. You know, like, they'll make that. That would make all the sense in the world, right? You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, they could give advice about you being sad or depressed, not because they haven't been sad.

depressed, but they felt that shit probably on another level. You know what I mean? They felt the lowest of the lows. So when you come to them with something low, they're like, now I know exactly what you're feeling. And this is how I dug myself the fuck out of this. So this is what you're going to do. Like maybe they'd make great, you know,

they have great advice for that reason. I think, you know, yeah, that makes so much fucking sense, yo. Because when you're the strong friend, if you've been through something, if you've had those experiences before, than you've worked through them. But I'm sitting here wondering, like, did you work through him? Because sometimes, man, when you're the strong friend and you feel those things,

you don't allow yourself to feel. You understand? Like, you don't want to feel that. Because if that shit makes you feel uncomfortable in the slightest or if it makes you feel weak in the slightest, you're like, you'll get that shit away from me. I ain't weak. I'm the strong friend.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I wonder if really what we call strong, is oftentimes just numbness. And when that numbness wears off, which I think is something that's happening to, a lot of people during this quarantine because, you know, they don't have a lot of distractions

that they have before. Sometimes you can bury yourself in your work and, you know, you're always busy, you're busy, you're busy, you're busy, you're too busy to deal with, you know, what you got going on mentally and what you got going on emotionally. But, man, when that noise, stops and when that music stops and it's just you and yourself and you know all you got is that and it's like that shit man that shit can drive some people fucking crazy right up that

shit can drive some people fucking crazy that's why I've been you know maybe I haven't been doing it enough but I feel like I should have really been encouraging teletherapy I still should be encouraging teletherapy you know what I mean but I have I've been telling people guard their energy and, you know, make sure they stay mentally healthy during this quarantine time because it is, it is, man, when you, especially if you're alone. If you're alone and you got shit that you haven't dealt with. Yeah. Man, bro.

That shit, man. And then also, man, looking at the world. You know, you look at the world and, you know, on the news, 20,000 people dead, 30,000 people dead, 40,000 people dead, 100,000 people dead, 100,000 people dead. Like, death is all around us. Then, Armad Aubrey, then George Floyd. It's like, yo, man, how much fucking deaf y'all going to show us? Like, I'm a stern believer that your thoughts become things, right? Right.

And the things that you want to happen in your life, you should constantly think about. The things that you don't want to happen, you try not to think about it all. But it's like literally for the past three months, four months, the one theme, the one common theme that is that ties all of these shit together is deaf. Whether it's coronavirus, whether it's the protests, police. All of that is it's all about death. It's about the loss of life. Right? So it's just like, imagine if you just like sitting at home all day and that's all you see.

All you see. And by the way, you show, every big story this year has been sitting around death. Before Corona, what was it? Kobe. Kobe. Yeah. So it's like, yo, we've been in a constant state of grief. You've been in a constant state of grief all year.

long. I can even go back to Nipsey in April last year, but we've been to, we've just been in a constant state of grief. We've been in a constant state of people questioning their mortality in ways that they've never questioned their mortality. And sometimes, man, because I even go there sometimes, my mind literally does wander to that place of, is it more peaceful after this? Like, is that how you truly quiet the noise?

You truly quiet the noise when you're, when you no longer. cease to exist physical. That's why it fucked me up when I was having a conversation. I'm pretty sure it was with Dev. And Deb was telling me about this psychic who, it was with Deb. It was about this psychic who was telling this story about how she saw Kobe. She saw Kobe when they died physically. He walked everybody into the afterlife.

And he came back to look at the wreckage and contemplate. How did this happen? Why did this happen? And I'm sitting there thinking like, wait a minute, I still got to be thinking about worldly issues after this. And then I went down

this whole rabbit hole of people who had died for brief moments, right? Like they died on the emergency table, emergency room table. They died in a car accident and they saw themselves on the side of the road and then they came back. And a lot of people believe,

I don't want to say scientists, because I don't even remember who the fuck I was reading that was doing these studies, but they believed, that your conscience still lives. So even when you die, your conscience knows you died. You think so?

I mean, that's what would be heaven, right? Yeah. That would be the afterlife. Your conscience would have to exist somewhere, whether it exists in heaven, space, whether it takes on another body. You know, I don't really know what happens. I don't think about what happens,

but I didn't see so much shit in my life now and seeing so much shit happening that I didn't think was going to happen. this brain in our head, bro, one of the main reasons I keep expressing this mental health thing that that brain can be your greatest gift and it can be your greatest curse.

Bro. Because you have that, we don't really truly know how the brain works. Bro, you know what's crazy? We were just talking about this. He said, Alex had a crazy dream the other day, right? And he's telling us about the dream

and then we all start sharing in our, like, crazy dreams that we've had, right? It's crazy. We don't have more anxiety going to bed at night, bro. Like, every time we go to sleep, we don't know what the fuck is going to happen. And whatever does happen, it is going to feel real. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Your parents die or, God forbid, in your fucking dream, it feels like they're dead. I had a dream where that shit happened. It feels that they're fucking dead. And granted, we wake up from it, we're like, okay, phew, that's fine. But there's a lot going on in this head of ours.

That's the keto. Say again? That's the key. The key to a dream is that you know you're going to wake up. But in the moment of it, you don't. Yeah, but I mean, I guess going to bed at night isn't as scary because you know, hopefully, that's why you do your prayers. Now I lay me down to sleep.

I pray to love and my soul to keep it. If I should die before I wake, pray to love and my soul to take. At least you, and you're a heart or in your mind, you know you're going to at least wake up. And that is terrifying. You had those real bad dreams. Yeah. And you wake up sad as fuck. Yes.

Wake up. I've had dreams that I've cheated on my wife. wife and woke up and slapped myself. Because you know how your wife would be like, if you even dream was cheating on me, I'm going to fuck you up. Let me go ahead and slap myself for you, baby. Last night, the devil was trying me, all right. But by the way, I'm going to tell you something.

This sounds crazy. I like how you called it a dream, not a nightmare. It was a nightmare. I had a dream. No, Andrew, it was not an Andrew. You're absolutely right. Thank you for correcting me, my brother. That was an absolute motherfucking nightmare.

Okay. And you know how I know it was a nightmare? and how I know I'm a changed individual, I woke up terrified. I woke up scared, feeling guilty. Whoa. And like, oh shit, that was a fucking nightmare.

That wasn't real. You know what I mean? Yeah. Shit. Back in the day, I might have woke up with a smile on my face. Got him. Got them.

Freebie right there. Got him with a freebie. That's a freebie, though. If you cheat in your dream and you nut, if you have a wet dream, you have a wet dream and you nut, that's a freebie. That's not cheating, bro.

Dude, that's the Lord stepping in. And by the way, that will piss a woman off. Have a wet dream if you want to. And she wake up and see you with semen in your pants. What the fuck was you dreaming about? You baby. And you better be fast. You better be fast on the draw with that you, baby.

You hear me? you better be fat as fuck. You stutter just a little bit. It's going to be consequences of repercussions. Oh, fuck, dude. But yeah, man, I don't, yeah, I hope to, yeah, I hope that we can, you know, continue to honor the life of Jasmine Waters in a real way. And when her mother and father and, you know, sister and brother

reveal more details than we can have a more deeper in-depth conversation because, you know, it's a lot going on in my mind right now. It's a lot going in my mind, you know, as far as what I need to do with my life, as far as the calling. I feel like, you know, God has on my life. And I'm going to tell you all right now, if y'all were ever tired of me talking about mental health,

if y'all were ever tired of me talking about anxiety, y'all are about to be fatigued like a motherfucker. Because I am not ever stopping because it is too many of us out here suffering in our communities. And it's too many of us that need help. And it is my life's goal and my life's work to provide those resources and provide those services for the people that need them. That is what makes me happy nowadays. That is what makes me feel fulfilled. That is what empowers me.

And that's what makes me feel like I failed. in certain situations. No. You can never put that on yourself. That is not your responsibility. Someone else's life is not your responsibility unless it's your kids. You know? I don't know, man.

No. I mean, I get it. I get what you're saying, but it's just hard, it's just hard to, you know, it's hard to feel that. You know, it's hard to feel that way at times. It's hard to feel that way. It really is. It really is. When you got friends and you got family and, you know, people are screaming for help in different ways.

and you know it and you try to provide it, but you can't really because that person won't let you in. Accept it. Yeah. Shit is fucked up. It is fucked up, man.

It's really fucked up. It's not a good feeling. Got any bills to pay? No. We paid them already. Oh, okay. Shit. But, yeah, man.

Honestly, it's important. I don't know. Do we get out of this? It's important. I don't know. I mean, we'll figure it out. what we do. But it's, uh, it's important that you recognize that, you know, that's not on you or anything like that. I mean, obviously, it's hard for us to discuss it without understanding or

giving more context and we'll leave that up to her family for sure. But, um, but yeah, there's nothing that you can do in these situations, you know, you're a good friend, did everything you can. I know, man. Taylor, we got any clips from Jazz Fly? Say again. I know Taylor had some clips from Jazz Fly. Okay, okay. Nah, because Jazz had this one clip, man, when she was on Brilliant Idiots, and I want to tell her to add that

when she was talking about the meaning of life. And she was just talking about how actually, let me see, I got it right here. Let me see if you can't head over the phone so they can't add it. I got that one over. I can't speak for anybody else. I think for me, I, it's about

figuring out who I am. That's been my process. And for me, it came from a surrender moment. and from there it has been a 10-year journey or so since. And I think that that's where I started to just sort of whittle away piece by piece. Oh, this is, I'm the person that, like, I'm hard-headed. They told me for years, don't touch the iron.

And then when I was four, I walked into the iron and just laid my hand on it and got three-degree burns. Like, I'm that person. So I'm the person that, like, needs to be. I need to figure out what I'm not in order to figure out who I am. And that's been a journey for me. But at the end of that was joy. Yeah. I mean, that should be the journey, right?

The journey is, you know, through all the turmoil, through all the confusion, to all the chaos, you know, finding the joy. And I told, I told Dev last night, I was like, yo, I want it all. I want all life has the awful. And when I say that, I'm not talking about the good. That's just not the way life works. I want the bad, the soul could.

Because I don't believe in so-called good or so-called bad. I just believe that life is just one long process. And we're all going along with the process. You've got to take everything that comes with it. I can't have a nationally syndicated morning show. right, that's on in a hundred markets, whatever. Like I had this dream of that. I can't have that without having the backlash that may come from a Rush Limbaugh interview or Russell Simmons interview.

Anything that happens on Breakfast Club or has happened on Breakfast Club over the past 10 years. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what happens when you have a massive platform. Like, people aren't going to believe you got things right all the time. So you got to take that good. with that badge. You got to take the, oh, we want Shal of Maine off the radio. You got to take the petitions to get Shaw. You got to take all of that. You know what I'm saying? You got to take the New York Times bestselling books, but then some of the people you may have spoken

about in the book not liking what you said. But that's my experience. That's my life. So that's just the way the world works. So when I say I want it all, I want it all. I want the good, The so-called good, the so-called bad, the so-called ugly. I want to feel it. I want to feel everything. I want to be 85 years old, 90 years old, talking, like being a real strong friend. Why do you think old people are the strong folks? Because what did you say?

They've been through that shit already. They've had those experiences. They've had those emotional ups and downs. They've had the depression. They've had the anxiety. They've had all of that shit. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah.

So I want to be that. So when I say I want it all, I mean all my years and every single experience life has to offer me. I bet you there's nobody. I bet you that's why when you look at Mike Tyson now, Mike Tyson seems so whole. Because he then had it all, lost it all. He didn't have been through it all, had the depression, still deals with the anxiety. He doesn't been the man, wasn't the man. Like, yo, I need, I want the fullness.

If that's the fullness of life, if that's what life is offering me, if that's what life is giving me, I'm gonna take it. I want it all. I really do. I want the whole complete fullness of life. Because I feel like that is a part of it.

I want to be that guy sitting back having those conversations at 80, 90 years old telling people, like nothing fazes me, nothing that I haven't seen. Yeah. Yeah, maybe, Maybe happiness is a function of your expectations.

And if you expect to experience the highs and lows of life, then you can be happy through that. If you only expect to experience the highs, of course you're going to be miserable when the lows come. But if you're able to sit back and go, this is part of life. There are going to be tragic moments which touch me deeply. And they're also going to be incredibly happy moments which touch me deeply too. and that is the entirety of what life is. And if you can sit back and go, that's what I'm ready for,

that's what I signed up for, and that's what that fuck I want. Maybe it can help you get through tough moments like this because you recognize that there is no life experience without this. Nobody that gets to live a long life, gets to live a long life without seeing their close friends die. Nobody. That's right.

And maybe that's why you see so much wisdom in old folks because you're like, man, these people have literally watched all of their friends die. If you're old old, right? You watch all of the closest people that you know die and on some level be kind of like abandoned by even their family. It sounds as that sounds. My grandma was the oldest child.

But she saw her mom die, her dad die. All her brothers and sisters. They're like, I think two brothers, two three brothers, two sisters. two sisters. So she watched all her brothers and sisters die and her mom and dad die and her oldest son. I never met my uncle, but he was my oldest son.

But she watched all of them die. And she died in 2006. So imagine that. Of course, you got your grandkids and you still got your daughters, but I'm talking about your siblings, literally, because you're the oldest child. So your baby brothers, baby sisters,

I think she was the oldest. Maybe Uncle Ben was the oldest. I'm not sure, but I think she was the oldest. No, I think she was the oldest. Either way, you watched everybody around you pass away. Yeah. That can't be good. It really can't.

It really, that really can't be a good feeling. But guess what? I want it all. Maybe you start to accept that this is part of life, man. Like, I have, my dad's memory is gone, right? Like, I introduce, his short-term memory is gone. I introduce my girlfriend to my dad every single time they meet. Okay. And I asked him about it. I was like, how does it feel like to have your memories start to go away? And he goes, this is part of life. He goes, I accept that this is part of life. As you get older, things start to break down. This is one of the things that start to break down. He goes, I've had a great life. I have, you know, two great kids that I love very much. I have an amazing wife who's still with him. I have so much, I have so much amazing things that have happened to me in my life. I've gotten so wildly lucky. And, and,

weirdly enough, he's like in this really great space as he enters this late stage in his life. And I think it's because of his expectations. He bowed depression his whole life, sadness, anxiety, all these fucking things. But he has been a great person through it. And he's always tried to help people. And he found that. And he's at this late stage in his life. I think he really is like, wow, man, this is part of it.

I'm not angry and bitter. A lot of times when old people start losing a member, they get angry and bitter. why has this happened to me? Why is this doing? Why the fuck do I deserve it? And he's really taking it on like, this is part of life. And there's nothing you can do. You find it.

You find that joy. You found that joy. That jazz is talking about. You found that joy. That's it, man. You have to see the, you have to see it for the entirety of things, man. You know?

I bet Duvall will be somebody really good to talk to times like this. He has this amazing. I was speaking to him. last night. What was he saying about it? First thing he said was, first thing he said was that don't, don't even, before I even said anything, it's like, don't even do it to yourself. He knew. Nothing you could do. Don't even do it to yourself. That's the first thing he said. That's like, literally the first thing he said. Only because, I mean,

he knew, he knew how, I mean, everybody, anybody that know me know how I felt about jazz. Like, that's not a secret, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's my girl. That's my girl. Like, so you feel a responsibility. You feel some sort of like, How could I've changed things? How could I have done something different? And again, that isn't your responsibility. You know, you can't take credit for the bad things that have happened to or you can't take credit for the good things either.

You know, jazz accomplished all those good things by herself too. Not to say that you weren't helpful and you didn't, you know, play a part, but that's not. I don't think about it like that. I just, you know, you just always want to be there for your people. That's it. That's literally the moral of the story. And I feel that way about any of my family or my friends. Like when I embrace somebody, I embrace them in a real way.

Like I don't have loose ends around me. You know what I'm saying? Like if I embrace you and I'm like, it's my man or this is my girl. It's my family. Like, it's my friend. Like, I take that shit very serious. And the reason I take it serious is because I don't feel like I ever really had that growing up. I don't think I ever really had, um,

real friends, so to speak. I think I had a lot of associates. Okay. Growing up, you know what I mean? I had a lot of associates. I think the closest I had to having real friends was when I was living on Cozy Corner. And it was like me and my man Reggie president and all the Trottas, Charles, John, Ben, Thomas, when Thomas was around, you know.

But it's like I really grew up with, with those people, with Reggie, Charles, John, been like, we was always around each other all the time. And I mean, I don't, you know, I don't speak to them at all anymore now. Not because I don't want to. It's just that, you know, you grow up and you lose touch. Ben still calls me, though. I haven't talked to John or Charles in a while.

But, yeah, man, like, my man, Boobie. I love Boobie. My dude, Jarrell's dead. God bless the dead. My man Zeke. I had real partners. I did have real partners. Like, see, sometimes we tend to do that, right?

Sometimes we tend to, we let the bad experiences overshadowed a good experience. So, you know, so sometimes you can be in that environment and you have a lot of people that backstabbed you or did you dirty and you kind of like cast a wide net. Like I think about how I started that off,

like I had no real friends. Like, no, I did. I had real partners. I did have real partners. But, you know, as I get older, I just, I cherish my friends and my family a lot more. Okay, this is how I can say it. I know that I deal with a lot of people when I hear their stories, they feel like they didn't have the connection of the bond with their family the way that they wanted to.

Okay. Are they feel like they were the misfits? And for some strange reason, those are the people. I tend to gravitate to. Those are the people I tend to love. Those those out-of-the-box thinkers, those people who, you know, do move to the beat of their own drum in a real way. Because to me, those are the most authentic people.

I love polarizing people. I do. I love people that you can't figure out, you know? And when I meet those people, I really embrace them. Like, okay, this, you and me now. We got this, you know. And maybe it's my nature, my cancer nature. I like to, I do like to nurture.

I do like to protect, you know. And when you feel like, when you feel like you didn't do that, that shit is a fucked up feeling, bro. I'm not going to lie to you. It really, really, really, really, really truly is. So, rest in peace, jazz fly.

Mist is not the word for you. And I know that you have left a whole lot of written words somewhere. I know I am almost positive of that. I'm sure that we will be blessed with Jazz Fly wisdom for years and years and years to come. And, yo, she was only 39. I thought Jazz Fly was in her mid-40.

Not because of her aesthetic or how she looked, but because of the way she's her wisdom. And she was always so, like she, I never, I never asked to her. I never, I just never thought about it. I just assumed. Yeah. Jazz was a little older just because of her,

just the way she used to carry herself. She was mature in the way that she carried herself. Yeah. Certainly. Yeah. 39, man. October, she'd have been 40. Yeah.

It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, man. It is tragic, dude. Yeah, I'm going to get the fuck out of it now. Not because I don't enjoy talking. I said, I'm going to get the fuck out of here now, not because I don't enjoy talking to you. No, I don't take it personally.

But just because I don't feel like talking and I got to get ready for this. I had to do this Zoom call yesterday. This is so crazy. I had to do this. And it was kind of good because it was feeling, but like I got the call at 1.30 East Coast time about jazz. And we were supposed to start doing the podcast that won. And I don't even know why. I was sitting on the couch doing nothing.

And I was like, yo, let's start the podcast, what, what I said, 115 or some shit or 130? You asked for 130. 1.30. And so I'm just sitting there and then literally I get this call. And I'm like, yo, what the? Might have been like 120. And I'm like, yo, what?

Yeah. Fuck. Did I hit you and told you. I said, I'm going to think about doing it. And I was like, nah, I can't do it. Yeah. I had to do this thing with Tony Robbins. And it was, it was, you know, me and Tony Robbins and Van Jones and a few other.

great voices and I'm just I'm like I wasn't even there with them yeah you know what I'm saying like I and I and I started the conversation of just having to let them know and you know tearing up and I'm like you know because the conversation was about what's going on in the world right now right so for me it just felt like trauma on top of trauma like we sitting around talking about traumatic experiences yeah now I'm just hearing about this hearing about jazz fly so that's There's more trauma. And it's just like, I was out of it. And I felt like that way.

I felt like that on the breakfast club this morning too. It's just like I don't give a fuck about the shit we was talking about this morning. I don't care. I don't give, when I say I don't give a shit, I don't give a shit. Like if, like, it just, I can't perform. I'm not a performer. I don't know how to perform. I'm not, I'm not the guy that can hear some shit and have some shit on his heart and his chest

and just go out there and do my fucking job. No, we got to talk about this shit. I got to talk this shit out. I got to have a fucking conversation. Because if not, you know, there's no need for me to be here. So if you don't want to talk about this, I can't be here. Me, I just can't do it. I really can't.

And it's good. You know, you get the laughs and stuff and you feel good. But then that laugh, you're like, ha, ha, then you be like, fuck. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So once again, rest of peace, jazz fly. Andrew, I love you. I love you, brother.

Alex, I love you. Love you, brother. Taylor, I love you. Love you, too. Hug you, bear. Duane, I love you. I love you, man. Chris, I want to tell Chris, I love him,

but Chris left us a while ago. Let's check on Chris, make sure Chris hasn't passed away. It's been rough, man. It's been rough, it's been a rough three years for LSN, man. I'm telling you, man. It's been a rough three years. Did you see that picture of Combat Jack and Jazz, bro?

Yeah, jazz, yeah. That shit. That was three years ago. I know. Like, two and a half or something like that like I know God damn

birthday that was that who birthday oh Kama's birthday what when was that like that 2017 or 16

come on man God damn yo yeah like shit we gotta get off loudspey here's network

quick man man bro. Hey. Yo, did I ever tell you about that time? I was in Toronto or Vancouver. And the dude said to me, man, this guy asked me a question.

It was at a book sign and he said, do you ever think about Combat Jack and Tachstone? I think you're going to be next. I looked up and said, nigger, no. The fuck is wrong with you. Nigel, no, I don't think about that type of shit. No, I don't.

but I understand the question much better now. Right. I do. I totally understand the question much better now. You know, the question is, the question really is just life. Mm-hmm. We don't know what life has planned for us. Mm-hmm.

When you ask me a question like that, shit, we're all next at some point. Mm-hmm. Right? We just hope that it's much, much later than sooner. That's right. We were just talking about this yesterday. What? Me, when we were talking about dreams and stuff like that, I was telling him that, like, with all this stuff that's going on, I'm scared.

I'd be scared to go to sleep sometimes. Just like, just the mentioning of you were saying just of constantly hearing about death. And then you put in perspective saying, we've really been hearing about it, the big news, for like six months now. And I didn't even realize that until right now. And it's just... And it's a... Yeah, it's a specific type of death, right? Because it feels close to you guys especially.

You know, it's like, okay, here's this figure that died that we all look forward to. Then we see this pluse brutality and you're like, oh, those are just regular folks that could happen to me in that situation. And then one of your friends actually dies. It's like it just keeps on getting closer and closer to your heart. It feels like. Absolutely, man. Yeah. Yeah, man.

Wow. That's right on time. Salute the whole vein, man. God damn it. Say it. I said, salute the whole vein. What happened? Van just sent me a text.

Like literally just sent this text. I appreciate you, Hove. I really, really do. Yeah, man, y'all motherfuckers go to therapy, man.

Go find you a grief counselor. Go find you a psychiatrist. Like, really, really, invest in your mental health in a real way. I don't give a fuck what your six-pack look like.

I don't give a fuck what your goddamn shoulders look like. If everything ain't the way it's supposed to be up here in your brain, it can be very bad for you, man, because, you know, I tell people all the time. No, I'm not telling people all the time.

I've just started saying this. Your brain can be your greatest gift and your greatest curse. Because the same thing that makes you genius is the same thing that can literally make you crazy. Yeah. And a lot of times, man, you know, life, like if you're a comedian, if you're an author, if you're a writer, life is about storytelling. Yeah. But sometimes the scariest story is. the story you tell yourself.

Bro. A fire can warm up a house or burn it down, man. War it up. You got to nurture that fire up there. It is a crazy thing this brain that we got. It's a crazy thing that we... I mean, you know how crazy brain is we still can't figure out how it works. We have no idea how to fucking work.

It's so complicated, so complex. Like we create this AI systems and they're not even close. They're really not even close. We have no clue at how to have. happens up there. We're at the mercy of it in a lot of ways, and I've seen it. You know, I've seen what happens when the brain takes over. It makes you think that certain

things are happening when they're not. Absolutely. Take care of your brain, bro. Take care of yourself, man. Guard your energy, man. Protect your fucking neck. For real, for real. Yeah. Rest and peace, jazz, fly. Jasmine Waters. We love you. Love you, jazz. RIP. As always, if you listen

to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. If you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit. You're right, too. It's the brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening.