The Brilliant Idiots - Flameboyant

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz are back with another wild episode of The Brilliant Idiots. The crew kicks off stereotyping each other (in the most Brilliant Idiots way possible), debating Jewish lawyers, doctors, AI, Hollywood, the Saudis buying the film industry, and why Jersey might actually be the future of entertainment. They get into politics, ICE raids in NYC, TikTok creating fake personalities, and how people swear they know your beliefs off a 30-second clip. Chris considers “activating his white privilege,” Charlamagne explains cheer dad life, and somehow Cam Newton fights a mascot. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: ⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots⁠ 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God ⁠Pre Order⁠ The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel ⁠Order Link⁠ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley ⁠Order Link⁠ No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF ⁠Order Link⁠ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God ⁠Order Link⁠ Check out Andrew Schulz ⁠www.theandrewschulz.com⁠ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" ⁠https://blackeffect.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Shalaman the guy, Andrew Shoe. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiot. Yes, sir. Chris? Okay, oh, great. Okay, how you doing? Oh, we are out here talking, man.

We was talking so much shit before the podcast even started, bro. No, we were stereotyping. You know, this is what we do really good on this show. That's how we wore them up. Profile, we stereotyped. Yeah. Chris, you know, who is our resident Jewish Asian. He has two things covered for us, right?

And you said that Jewish Asian is. is what Sharpton. What did I say? The sound of, I don't know. What you're going to do now? I just want to clap on. What's you going to do now? It sounded like Hong Kong.

You got off the Jewish agent. I don't know. That's what I thought he said too. Jewish Asian. He's our Jewish Asian. Both. He represents Israel and Taiwan. All right.

And Brooklyn. And Ireland. And Ireland. No, I don't do that. I'm tired of motherfuckers claiming Ireland, bro. But be about it. I'm about to claim it in a very big way. Really?

You moving? God. Damn. Man, Monty got him out of him, bro. Damn. Donnie got you out of here? I have strong Irish roots, and I'm embracing them. It has nothing to do with anybody coming in or out of power.

Man, get the fuck out of here. You see this guy all of a sudden want to be Irish? You brought up a good point. You said, what did you say about Jewish lawyers? I said Jewish lawyers are about to be done. Chat Chibi T's taking me. No, what happens? Chris said, you need the Jews.

We're the best doctors and we're the best lawyers. Yes. You said Indians took over to doctors, which is true. That's a fact. lawyers, ChatsGBT might come for that. Yeah. Not in terms of being in the court. A certain type of lawyer that only works with contracts.

Just looking at the contracts, chat ChbT are going to look over everything. The lawyer who's a dealmaker or a connector, a job finder, they're always going to have a role. But if you're just pushing paper, you've got a problem. Yes. Go on. Go on.

And then what else were you saying? The Saudis are taking over Hollywood. Saudis are taking over Hollywood. Thank you so much. That's the other thing I said. I said, Jews, you guys start producing movies again. You spend too much money on A-PAC. You need to spend money on H-PAC, which is Hollywood.

Damn! And then you need to put that fucking thing down and start making the movies that we love. Damn! We love these movies. Damn. I don't even know why we started to talk about that. We were just being profiling for whatever reason. Yeah.

Did we already get too racist? No, no, I don't think it's racist at all. I think that we're thinking about the future. We're thinking about where the world is going. Where is the world? Yo. Because you got to think, you know, for people like us who, you know, we do profile, we do stereotype, right?

Who does that? I mean, like, in a good way, though. I don't do that. Like, jokingly, like in a good way. I don't do that. You know, somebody says something about, I was doing a podcast earlier. Don't you put this shit back on me?

No, I'm not joking. I promise you, I was doing a podcast earlier with somebody, and they was like, you know, Andrew has the whole racist aesthetic. And I said, why? Because he's white? Yeah. Yeah.

No, this is what they said. Yeah. I had to laugh. They was like, but the little. It's not little. I thought it was for a movie. No, this is when you had the little joint. I never had a little one.

You never had a little one? See how y'all are so racist? Yeah, I didn't have a little one. You're talking about the haircut. She did say the haircut. She said the haircut, the mustache. Who is this bigot you were doing a podcast? Who's this bigot?

I always said, I held it down though, but it's just, it was just, it was just funny how we, like, profile. And she had a whole perspective of you. I know. Because of your political views, which she was just, which she was just, She did say she's seen you change. There's no change. There's no change. You just don't know my political views.

You watch a TikTok on my- They don't know nuance. There's no nuance. You just saw what people told you. This is like- No-No-No-No. Like, yes, I give her a sense. My point is like,

it's like this, it's something going to go and Charlamine is this type of person. Well, why do you think that? Well, because I saw a 30-second TikTok that said he's that type of person. And then they meet you. You're gay. And then they meet you and they're like,

all right, TikTok is right. But it doesn't mean, it's not always. You know what I mean? It's not every single time. That's TikTok. You know what's funny? You know what's bad funny?

It's like people like, Yo, Solomon just pretends about that gay shit. And then they'll be at some like cheerleading conference and like, nah, he's about that life. That motherfucker every weekend is watching cheerleading. What's going on with this guy? Y, Wynne. That shit is crazy.

You know what pisses me off when you be at cheerleading competitions? And somebody would be like, Yo, Sholomey, what's you doing here? Yeah, like you can't. What you mean I'm doing here? My daughter's shit. You're gonna fuck. You think I'm here scoping out the scene?

You fuck, okay, so way they say it. Like you're a fan. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? You gotta lean in. What the fuck? My daughter's here is, you motherfucker. Yeah, what a piece of shit. Alright?

Anyway, point is, is like people get all their information for TikTok, then they sit down with you and then they realize that you're not this version that somebody made up of who you are. Six, seven, bro. You know what I'm saying? But also seven is six. That's 7-6. When it's bad, it's 7-6. You know what I mean?

But it's true. It's like, yo, everybody has these perceptions, man. You just don't know what to do with them. And then you sit down with them and they're like, oh, you've changed. It's like, no, you fucking eat it. It's like you just didn't know who I was. You let someone on the internet say who I was. And then you found out who I was and you assume that all of a sudden I've just changed who I am.

But people should be able to critique. I should be able to make a decision. And then if later on, I want to critique that decision, I should be able to do that. Right? So let me ask a question. Alex, you, you are, you are, you are, you are, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're down with Mundani, right?

Yeah. Mondani comes in the city, doesn't get anything done. People start critiquing him like he's a regular politician, because you know that's how it is. Everybody loves the honeymoon phase. As soon as you get in it, you can't get nothing done. They're on your ass. And they ain't going to take long, right? Yeah. Are you not going to critique him? Of course. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then when you critique them, what should people say? They should say that's good that you're holding. They shouldn't call you MAGA. They shouldn't say you're a Republican. They shouldn't say you're a xenophobic. So they say, this is what you ask for. That's what they're going to say.

Of course. No, they should say this is what you voted for because it is. Exactly. What you voted for. And it's okay. Yeah. But it actually... No, but it's not what I voted for.

If he doesn't do the things that I want to do, then it's... Oh, hey, whoa, whoa, don't say that. Oh, too much nuance. It's my back. You can't say that. You can't say, you voted for whatever he does. Even if he does things that you didn't, if he never said he would do or you didn't want to do,

that's what you voted for it. Isn't that wrong, you're a love bomb? No, I mean, you shouldn't want to. Yeah, but you are. We talked about it last week. All politicians love bomb you. You give up some ass, and then you may or may not regret fucking them.

But if they do a good job, you let them go a little deeper. It is, it is, you're crazy. What? You're crazy. Listen, we all hope that whoever wins does things that help New Yorkers in this great city. That's what we all hope. Clearly.

That's how I roll. Charlemagne just wants to see the world burn. Yeah. I really don't. Yes, you do. No, I don't. I want to have pockets of peace where I know, you know what, at least we cool here. You know, I know if Fundani wins, which probably is, I don't want everybody to be prepared for what's to come.

You know what? When I come is a lot of government overreach. I do this podcast with you every single week. Yes. And sometimes you'll say shit. And I understand the feeling of that guy that threw the shoes at Bush. Because that's what I want to do to you multiple times throughout a podcast. I just want even now as you're chewing your bottom.

But you realize I'm right later. Yeah, maybe. Who are you talking about that time? All the people in the Middle East. Remember when he ducked. Oh, shit. Damn. The shoes.

God damn. All I'm saying is when Mundani wins. Yeah. It's going to be government over. Trump has already said it. Your man Tom, what's Tom's name? Holman.

My name is Tom. Tom Holman. Tom Holman. Tom Holman already said it. Tom Holman says he wants Mandatty to get out the way. Bows, ice will flood the zone in NYC. Damn! They did that shit last week as just a little taste.

And us New Yorkers fought back, like we do. What did you do? What did you do? I didn't think nobody on Canals Creek since. Yeah, Canal Street 10. You're talking about. Canals Creek is a motherfucker. Is it?

What? Yeah. They are gone. I will say there's a lot less clean Air Force One's on the street, so I'm not trying to call anybody out, but you were wearing the fakes. Damn! You were wearing the Sudanese Air Force Ones.

And what do you mean New Yorkers fall back? Like when the ICE agents were there, there were New Yorkers that were, like, getting in between them and the Sudanian people. Well, guess what? Canal Street is clean right now. Ain't nobody on Canal Street. Bro.

Everybody talk all that talk to. They hear that. Canals Street. But. Yo, be honest, if ice came through with the vanilla ice. I'm shocked they haven't done it yet. Coming out the car like the- I'm shocked they haven't done it yet.

I'm shocked they haven't done it yet. I'm shocked they haven't done it yet. I ain't even seen it on Instagram. You would laugh. You would fight it, but you would laugh. You know they listen and I bet you'd give it two days. You're going to see that app off. Somebody throw a dildo at Alex.

Why is he on that? You're going to catch in his mouth like a seal at the fucking aquarium. I don't like none of this shit. I'm just telling you what's going to happen. That's all. And I don't want it to happen. I'm just telling you you got to know it's coming. Just say we're not mature enough to have this conversation.

We are mature enough to have this conversation. Are we? Mature enough to have it in a mature way. If you listen to the shit we're saying, in between the lines, you'll get it. You'll be like, clap for that. Yo, I got to give you a round of applause. What you said was fire right there.

Oh, man. We're not mature enough to have this conversation in a mature way, but we're mature enough to have it. I'm telling you, dude. You don't ding ding ding ding. What we got, Chris. It's fucked up. It is fucked up.

It's fucked up. But that's what's going to happen. But why is fucked up shit funny? That's not our fault. God made it that way. Damn. Right? Like he made us laugh at that shit.

Say again? Satan got a kingdom too. You think Satan is one with the sense of human? Satan got a kingdom too. No, I'm just saying Satan got a kingdom too. put that in your head. Satan or God? Dung-Dung-Dug-Dung-Dung. No, fucking ripped damn Winkle.

What was Vinoy's his name? Oh, yeah. It was something, Van Winkle. I didn't even make, I thought you were singing, this is how old I am, under pressure. That's the same. I know. So when I hear it, I think under pressure.

I don't even think ice-ice baby. Yo, Tom, yo, you need help picking people up, man. I got somebody. No, stop that. Yo, Tom. Yo, Chris is going home. Chris is going home. They're going to give you a choice, Chris.

I told my kids this weekend I might get arrested if I see ice. Why? For doing what? For doing what? Intervene. What are you going to do to intervene, Chris? I'm not going to touch anybody. Ice, pull up in the scooters.

No, no, no. Remember when James Hardin was scoring 100 points a game, they were guarding them like this? Yeah. With the hands behind the back. That's how you'll do it. I'm going to hands behind the back. Let's talk about this. Not initiating any contact.

Chris, this is a good point you bring up. But I'm worried about the bathrooms in jail. That's my name. How do you know when to intervene? What do you think is going to be in the bathroom? I have stomach problems sometimes. I don't know. But you think someone's going to use that tight little...

You might need that. You might need that. You might need to let one guy do it. Your butt throws up on the plate. Come on. People leave you to... Me, me. What?

What? Your butt throws up! Oh, my God! Leave you alone. How do you throw about your butt? I mean, shit. If it goes deep enough, it's just like when you put a finger down your throat. Yeah, but they don't call that butt throw up for Chris.

because of that butt sauce. Soar sauce. Sore sauce. You got the sore sauce. Chris, which is up a good point. Yeah. You do, Chris. How do you know when to interview?

You do. Because what if they are actual illegal immigrants? Yes. Well, what if the better argument is what if it's actually a violent criminal, right? And you intervene in the stop. That's what I'm saying. It's an illegal immigrant who's a violent criminal. ICE is actually doing what they're posted.

My calculation is they've so overstepped whatever sort of jurisdiction they have. They've so overstep. That you'll protect the violent criminals too? No, I didn't say that. But what if I don't know? How do you know? I think you have to make a calculation

that you're against the principle of what's happening and I'm against the principle. But aren't you for the principle of arresting violent criminals and saying illegal? A violent... Well, let me turn it the other way. Are you against the arrest and people being detained

who aren't violent criminals? Yes. Okay. So then you should be very upset about what's happening. I'm with you. But how do you know the difference is what I said that shit initially? Yeah, sure. You don't.

And that's the unfortunate position that we've been put in, is that we can't believe that they're going after violent criminals only. They're clearly going after everybody. They're where, I mean, look, my belief on ice is that this is a test. This is the canary in the coal mine. We're going to flood these cities with mass armed men who don't seem to report to anybody who don't have to follow any sort of jurisdiction. and we're going to say it's about getting illegal violent criminals now,

but it's really about seeing what we can get away with. So on that principle alone, I got to stand up against it. I'm going to be honest with you, Chris. I'm not saying that you wouldn't. Without using my hands, yeah. I'm not saying you wouldn't, but I think that if you've never intervened during a police interaction, you don't want to, Chris.

But I'm saying you're not going to intervene with ICE. You're not going to intervene. If you've never intervened with a police interaction, because I'm sure throughout your life, you've seen police harassing people, probably assaulting people. If you've never intervened in that, you're not going to intervene in ICE.

I've been in situations with cops, then I generally fold, yeah. So what makes you think you're going to stand up to ice? See, people say shit that sounds good until it's actually time for some action. So you hear that. I think I'm fed up. Huh?

I think I'm fed up. I think I watched a documentary about the umbrella protests in Hong Kong over the weekend. Oh, yeah. I saw where that got to. And I was like. But they were pro sepests in the sun?

What was the, why do Asians? hate the sun so much. What's wrong with the sun? It's hot over there. He's so crazy, son. Wait, why? You're crazy.

Why am I crazy? You know they hate the sun. You're a crazy guy, bro. So how do you know the protest wasn't about anything besides that? It's global warming. I just want to know, will you guys bail me out? If I step in in an ice situation, you guys are very welcome. I got to hear the whole story.

You got to hear the whole story. I don't know. I really do. I got to hear the whole story. Who do the Chinese hate the most? Japanese. What's on their flag? The Rising Sun.

When I'm right, I'm right. Okay? When I'm right, I'm right. The umbrella protest, Charlemagne, was about the Sun. They're protesting Japan. I just gotta hear the story. They're protesting Japan. No.

Stop it. Would you bail Chris out? He asked you. I'm going to let them sit there for the weekend. It depends. I got to hear the whole story. Like, what happened, yo? If you attacked the,

If they say to me, yo, if they say, yo, there was some ICE agents out here, they was harassing this old woman who's clearly a citizen. She kept screaming that she's a legal citizen. And so Chris intervened, I'd be like, all right, go get Chris. But if they'd be like, yo, there was some illegal immigrants out here. They were violent. They all had warrants for, like, abuse or something. Well, you're taking their word at that point.

I got it. They're officers of the law. When did they lie? Okay. What if they say, hey, we told your friend. that this was what happened. And he's still intervened. Yep.

But I'm not touching anybody. No, no, but you intervene. You're just poiseding my opinion. You use your whiteness. You use your white half. I'm going to activate my white privilege for this situation. I've been holding on to it for a long time. And now it's time to activate it.

White people out there. We out there. I do like that. Activation time. I like when white people use their privilege to combat president. We got to be at the front of this shit. We got to step up. We're the ones who got to intervene peacefully.

That's right. Nonviolently. Go ahead, Chris. No. But it's on us right now. No kings. No kings. No kings. No kings. I don't even like that as a framing for those books.

Me neither. But anyway. Why? I'm going to talk about it. Because it's almost a compliment. Oh, you're a king. No, no dictators. That's what the shit is about.

No dictators. Respect the constitution. How about, how about? That was common this whole thing with Buttigieg. How about? What? Oh, no, dictators. How about, how about, how about, how about we think?

How about we think? actually want the call to action to be. Ooh, what does that mean? Like, whatever the call to action is. Like, a lot of people are calling for a general strike. Why not call it a general strike march? Like, the No Kings thing was cool. I like the amount of people that came out,

but it's just like, we don't have a king. I wish I had that much free time, bro. That's bullshit. That whole narrative, my daughter went, she said some older women rolled on her and were like, you guys just need a job, you're not working. Yeah. That's some fucking talking point shit.

Oh, okay. My, look, my 82 and 83 year old parents marching that shit. My father, lifelong Republican. Don't they not have jobs, though? They retire. My dad does have a job. He still works. But I've seen a 90-year-old woman out there saying she ain't never seen it like this.

You know what the fuck she has seen at 90? 90 years old to say that? For my father to physically go to a, as a Republican, to go to a protest, very significant. And the fact that then, you know, this guy releases a AI video of him shitting on people's heads. That shit was fine. Whatever. I mean. Yo, you know it's funny.

We were talking about this. My parents' head is not funny. But your dad wasn't in the video. Okay. What are you talking about shit in your dad's head? That's not becoming of a president. No, if none of it is becoming. Here's the problem.

Here's a problem. It's like I see it, and I was talking to guys about this, but like I see a lot of other politicians trying to do what he does. Like, AOC tries to do it too. Like, she's trying to, like, own people on Twitter. And it's like, if you're, if you, Trump just got a thing where he's funny. It is what it is. We all acknowledge us. He is funny.

So he gets away with shit that most people can't get away with because he's funny. Oh. When I see the other politicians doing it, it just comes across so cringe. I don't think that they're getting a benefit. He's very cringe. That's why the only one it works for is Gavin because Gavin is actually letting people know I'm mimicking him. Yeah. I'm not trying to do a, uh,

a cheap second-rate version of Trump. I'm actually mimicking him. It's a mirror. It's a mirror of. Gavin is just like such a sociopath. Yeah, I wanted to ask you. Why Gavin won't do Rogan? What's up with that?

I didn't get the chance to watch you in Rogan's episode, but I saw it on, I was actually watching it on Saturday. They had a whole segment about how, because Gavin keeps throwing him. They was playing the clip with you and Rogan talking about it. And I was like, yo, you got to get him on? And Gavin was on, I think Gavin was on higher learning, saying that Rogan won't have him on. Oh, yeah.

Was it higher learning or he was on all the smoke as well? Maybe both. I think he was on all the smoke. He definitely was on all the smoke. He was funny. But why won't Rogan have him? I don't know. I honestly don't think that he's against it,

but I think the fact that Gavin is trying to, like, bully himself on, I think Rogan's like, what are you, like, this is not how you're going to get on my podcast, trying to, like, tell me I'm short or tell me whatever. Yeah. But again, I don't know. That's on him. I think he should have him on because I think he might get eaten up.

Gavin's not in a position where he gets to go, look at my work, look how great it is. People are leaving the state. That's a fact. So if you run the state that people are leaving, that's all the evidence you need to know that you're not doing a good job. You're not making it a place where people want to live.

So if people are leaving the state that you're running, why would they want to stay in the country that you would run if you ran for president? Yeah, it's interesting with Gavin because, you know, he talks the economy a lot. I wonder if the California economy is going to be the same four years from now. Also, it's like the California economy

is not great. It's the same way as like the American economy. There's like five companies propping it up. They just happen to be in Philadelphia. Hollywood. And Hollywood is going. By the way, yo,

I literally decimated. You know, I had this conversation with somebody yesterday. They don't make movies there anymore. Hollywood doesn't realize Hollywood isn't Hollywood. No, they do. You think they do? The workers do. The workers, okay, okay.

The executives don't. Maybe the executives are like turning a blind eye to it. But like any of these producers, like I was talking about producers, like I was talking to producer, a street fighter. I was like, yo, why didn't we do this shit in America? They're like, dude. He goes, make a movie in America. Damn.

It's like, that's like sneakers. You can't do that anymore. Oh, wow. Like, it's just so much, it's a quarter of the price to do it in another country to fly a hundred people out there, put them up for three months instead of just doing it in L.A. And it's like, that's all leadership in California. Simple as that. Yeah. Like, you guys have to, you're hollowing out the industry that we know L.A. for.

I don't know L.A. for anything else. Listen. Porn. You know what's about to happen. You know who the new Hollywood is, baby. Jersey. No, no, you're not wrong about that. Big Jersey.

I've been telling you all that for the past year. You're not wrong about that. Crazy big Jersey. Lionsgate is in Newark. Netflix is in motherfucking mile mouth. Oh, hey. Right? Big Jersey is where it's at.

He's right. And shout out Jersey. I would like Jersey to have a redemption arc. What you mean? Jersey's popping. I know it's popping, but like the perception of Jersey. Put it this way. Like Jersey got probably the most beautiful coastline

that exists in, America. And we look at the Jersey Shore as a kind of like trashy place or whatever. But the coastline is like stunning, right? You got amazing suburbs. Son, I know. We're making the same argument here. Like, we're on the same page. So it's like, I would love it to become a hub for entertainment and also like filmmaking and then displace this idea of what we think Jersey is based on Jersey Shore and like housewives. You know, Hollywood used to be in Jersey. I know before they went to, uh, what's it? Because Edison was charging 50% tax on all the cameras. Yeah. Bro. Lionsgate. is in Newark.

Netflix is in fucking my mouth, bro. How fire would it be? And it's probably going to be another studio coming to. Talk this shit. How far would it be if we stole movie making, TV making from the West Coast and all that shit? It's like, we got

the banks in New York, we got the films that are made in Jersey. We got, I mean, we got to get a team that wins something soon, but like, why, the greatest place in the entire world. It's going to happen. By the way, Ho-ho, Inshallah.

It's not even about if it's happening. Like this shit is happening. I know. Netflix is being built right now in my mouth. Lionsgate is being built right now in Newark. It's happening. There we go. I picked the perfect time to get into the film business.

There we go. Right back. You don't even got to move. I got to move right there. Backyard Jersey. What's up? We need to call up rider. We need to get some of that rider money.

Come on, man. Saudi, what's up? Saudi, what's up? Come to Jersey. They started a film investment company for a billion. I know, but they're trying to go over the house. You don't need to be in LA for that. They don't know better.

They don't know better. It's because they got all the Hollywood execs in their ear telling them L.A. is the place. I might know a guy. Yo, for all our people that listen to us in Saudi, Jersey is the future. Invest in East Coast people. There we go. Invest in East Coast people. There we go.

We got great ideas. Mm-hmm. All right. Studios in our backyard. What's up? We got the audiences. What's up? Fuck with us, okay.

And the weather is shitty enough where we want to stay inside and work. In L.A., everybody want to do a brunch meeting. But you know, the beauty of an... to the beauty of the Tri-State, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut. We get all the seasons. Yeah, but Connecticut you don't even have to include in that. Nobody's really clocking Connecticut for a minute. Connecticut's fire.

To live, Connecticut's fire. Like, if you want to see people who still wear baggy jeans, like, yeah. Well, Baggie's back. It's all arranged. But I'm just talking about Connecticut. Connecticut is a dope place to live. I mean, Connecticut is fire. Like, people, I know mad people who got beautiful big houses in Connecticut.

Connecticut is like 20 years behind. What's wrong with that? It was a better time. 20 years behind. And then if New York gets this act to fucking together and our tax dollars actually going to make

a city futuristic, then you just come into the future. A lot of ticks in Connecticut. Say what? A lot of ticks in Connecticut. Oh my God, Chris. Man, you are, you got third world problems. This is a bottom, buddhist.

You know what I'm saying? You're not in Cambodia no more, bro. What the fuck? You weren't about the insects and the DoorDash guys? I look out for our listeners, all right? Connecticut is a beautiful place. Beautiful, man.

I'm telling you. I know some people. living Connecticut, coming to the city to work, go back in this Connecticut. Like, that is the greatest it costs to live in his Lord. I don't like that shit. Jersey and New York? You're going to pay these taxes like the rest of it.

No. You don't pay these. You too. You ain't going to be here much longer, bro. What are you talking about? Bro, you're not going to be here much longer. You got the Hamptons already. Jersey calling your name, bro.

What are you talking about? Jersey calling your name. What are you even talking about? Jersey's calling your name. What are you even talking about? Jersey's calling your name. Okay. All right.

I get a lot of calls in my neighborhood from a lot of, you know what's so interesting? What? A lot of my comedian friends who went over the rider all of a sudden house shopping. Ooh! Isn't that interesting? A little down payment or something, huh? Okay. I just thought about that.

Okay. A lot of my friends who went to motherfucking rider doing some house shopping. Isn't that interesting? In Jersey and the neighborhood. In my neighborhood or surrounding neighborhoods. It's not interesting. Hey, don't you live in such and such? Mm-hmm.

Yep. Mm-hmm. Damn. Might have to pay down something. Damn. Damn. Man, I have to pay down something, Charlotte. Listen, man, do what you got to do.

What is Michael Blackson? He said, not a rider. What's this talking about? He didn't go to Saudi? Oh, no, I think him and his girl broke up. Oh, I saw that. Roddy, darling, responds after Michael Blackson apologizing for fathering another child. That was the most pathetic post our apology ever.

Yeah, they were talking about this. I saw this conversation, but they were saying that they got an open relationship. So. I don't like getting into this stuff, man. He neither. They were talking about my breasts coming this morning, and I'm just listening, and I'm like... Yeah, that's sad, bro. And Jess was like, shut up, and I was like, I am.

Yeah. Yeah, okay, whatever. Sluke to Michael Blackson, man. If you're happy, I'm happy. I will say this, though. All of y'all need to watch Twa. Twa is a movie that came out in the year 2000. Okay.

And it was about a couple who decided to spice things up by bringing another one into their relationship. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Okay? Oh, boy. Watch that. It's called Tuo.

T-R-O-I-S. You horny, huh? I think that, no, I think that, you know, sometimes we think grass is greener on the other side. But. Grass is greener where you water it. Keep that shit wet! Yeah. Un-k!

Okay. Un-talk. That was some unc-talk right there? Keep that shit wet. Grass is greener where you water it. So keep your shit wet. That was. Fire.

Yeah. Chris, what you think of that, man? Fire. Man, Chris, at the ad lives, bro, I feel like what amigos. If you pull a muscle, all of a sudden,

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got into the fight with the mascot? Cam not playing around, bro. Listen. Start swinging on them. First of all, what I don't think people understand about Cam Newton. And there's only two humans I've seen who look like they.

They're in 3D. What? You look like they're in 3D. Boom! Probably 40 at that point. What you mean 3D? What? Everybody's in 3D.

Nah, bro. Some of us look two-dimensional. Like, if I walk in the room right now and I'm looking at you, it's like you look like two-dimensional. Like, you ever seen when motherfucking on Roger Rabbit, when Roger Rabbit got ran over by the fucking TV roller? Doesn't he look like the bad guy from who framed Roger Rabbit in that picture? I can't believe you brought that up. Cam Newton and Anthony Mason. Oh, yeah, Mason looked like they're in 3D.

No, they just look like they're like a different. They're like species of, yeah, say. Of human. Yeah. I've seen, I've been around plenty of big people. Like, you got to like walk around them. No, I hear you on that one. You know what I'm saying?

Like, God. They're like Prometheus. Like they're the race of alien that started the human race. Mm. Do you remember Prometheus when he like, Dissolved in the water? I thought it was the Anunnaki. No, that is Prometheus.

That's in the book of Enoch, I think. Yeah. The Giants. That's how Cam don't look like a quarterback. No, bro. He's a physically imposing name. Look up. Come up Cam measurements, yo.

All right. What? Let's see how fast Chris got that. No, his measurements. Cam's measurements. What are Cam Newton's measurement? He's 6'5. I don't believe that, yo.

You think it's solid? Hell. Have you ever met Cam? Newton? Nah, man. Cam looked like he's about six, nine. He's 245. Yeah, that's probably about right.

But it's like muscular. So I can imagine how he was when he was out there, like, playing and shit like then. How the fuck do you tackle a 6.5, 245-pound quarterback that's agile, athletic, can run you to fuck over? I wonder if that's why he dresses so eccentricly. I wonder if it makes him in a weird way more approachable.

Like wearing like the silly hats and the silly outfits. Like, I wonder if it makes him less like intimidating. I don't be, I don't never think Camby looking silly, bro. I think we had this conversation before, but I don't think Camby looking silly. Like, man, I just, I couldn't pull it off. Alex, you better not even open your mouth to talk about somebody with silly fits, bro. Well, Al, you said you did that with glasses. You found that like people were less scared of you when you wore glasses.

Yeah, I did that back in the day, yeah. But that's an interesting thing that you have to grow up with psychologically. Yeah, but he dresses like eccentric. Alex, how do you think you dress? I get flied. That's different. You look eccentric to me.

You don't think Alex look eccentric. If you don't think I do, if you think I do, then how do you not think he does? I mean, if that's the word you're using, I just think Cam pulls off what he does. The shit look, I mean, I couldn't do it, but he gets fly to me. I don't think you look whack.

Okay. Yeah, you just look. I don't think... I've got to check you everywhere. No, no, no, no, no. I don't think you look whack. I just, you know, it's gay, but it's not whack. But it's not, but I know you're not gay.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would call it like... Flameboient. How does you do this so far? No, no. That's what I would call it.

Flame buoyant. You know what I would call. I would call what you do flame buoyant. You're flame buoyant, Al. That's my bullshit. That's fine. You can't tell me that you haven't seen a couple of fits from Cam and be like, that shit fly. Yeah.

So when I see him, I see you. Okay. That's a compliment. That is. I mean that, I mean that's seriously. I take that. They get fly. Like, some people really put a lot into their fits.

And Cam puts a lot into his fits. Like, that should be looking clean to me. But Cam is a different size than Al, you know. And everything is custom. That's the other thing I give Cam a lot of credit for. For wearing custom. All that shit is custom, bro. You give him a lot of credit for that?

Yes. Because that means that he's sitting down with people. He's designing this shit probably. Yeah. Like, I don't know, man. We got here about talking about how a huge cam is, though. 6'5, 245. I don't even know why that mascot thought he could play with Cam like that.

That was insanity. That was insanity. I really don't understand. Then he doesn't look like he tried to snatch his hat off. Something crazy. Play that May's clip, Chris. What's the Mace clip? What's Mace up to?

Mace had a good topic of discussion. Mace reveals craziest thing he's ever asked of a girlfriend was for her to buy the ring to prove she was serious about marriage. When I was first going to get, I thought about getting married. I asked her to buy the ring if she was serious. I thought that would let me. You asked her to buy the ring?

Shows. Wow You're a live show Maze's fire, man They did a live show I guess I think so What you think about that man

I think Maze is just I think Podcasting is one of the greatest things that has happened for people who are unique characters because I think Mace as a rapper is so much less dynamic than Mace as a podcaster because this guy like oozes personality and yes he was a phenomenal rapper we love the songs but I don't think you got like this side of Mace like you didn't get to see this

like cool comp collective but also like hilarious dude so I agree with you but I think Cam brings a lot of that out too. I think they're a perfect dynamic respect to the chemistry between them And also the girl that hosts it is great. Treasure. Yeah, she's phenomenal. But yeah, like just getting to get to know Mace as like a person. Like some people get exposed by podcasts. You find out they're just not that interesting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But some people, you get to find out that they're more interesting than you thought they were. You know what? You bring up a good point. And I'm going to tell you another reason why Cam and Mace podcast works because they have a base. And what I mean by a base is their base is sports. You know how when you walk in like a Chipotle or a salad restaurant, The first thing they ask you is what's your base

or you got to have your lettuce or your kale or Chipotle, it got to be your rice, whatever it is. You've got to have a base. As long as you got your base, you can put whatever topping on the base. Also Harlem. You know, like the bait, but go on, go on. Harlem is an interesting place too.

Because people from Harlem act like, they talk like Harlem is Harvard. Like it's a place you go and graduate from. I don't know if Harlem has as much to do with it, bro. I mean that like it's at least with camp specifically. And again, I don't know that much. I'm just like casual on the outside. It seemed to him that being like the mayor of Harlem is enough for him.

Where there are some people like, I just need to be famous all around the world. It's always seemed to me that it's like about. What's that? I asked him that specifically on Breakfast Club. I literally asked him last time he was there. It was about a month ago. Yeah. I said people would talk about Harlem like it's Harvard.

Yeah. What does Harlem mean to you now? Yeah. As opposed to when you were like 19, 20 years old. What you say? I don't want to mess up his wording because I know when people talk about their towns and their cities is different. But it just basically was like, I definitely meant more than him when he was younger. Oh, interesting.

Okay. You know what I'm saying? That's fair. Yo, Harlem people talk about Harlem like is Harvard. Right? Like, what does Harlem mean to you today compared to when you were like 18? it ain't the same for me. You know what I'm saying?

Not at all. That's a great question because it's so gentrified. It's just not the same. And I may sound ignorant for saying it, but I missed the abandoned buildings. I missed the vacant lots and going up, driving, you know, walking to school and almost stepping on glass.

Not saying that's good and you shouldn't improve from that, but that's just my memory of Harlem. Like, when I see Red Lobster on a hundred twenty-fifth, you know, like, an H&M, I'll be like, this is crazy, you know what I'm saying? But it's gentrified and, you know, to me, everything, but you got to think about this, too, right? Where I live is gentrified. Like, what this nigga doing over here? You know what I'm saying?

So you might got somebody white, like, yeah, what the fuck? Remember when it was all white over here? You know what I'm saying? So it's a balance. But just for me, Harlem isn't what it used to be. I'm not saying Harlem still ain't Harlem today, but just not the Harlem I grew up with. Now, there are some people who I think, like,

you know, Harlem alumni. And I'm not, Cam is definitely Harlem alumni. There's some people who just, you know, rep it harder than others. And it ain't even just Harlem. It's like the world we're in. Like, if you come from a certain town and all you know is that city, all you care about is being the man in that town.

But you usually feel like that until you actually go see the world. Yeah, I'm not saying that the rest of the world is interesting, but in the same way that, like, Wallow and Gilly are Philadelphia first. I always felt that way about Cam. It's like Harlem first. It doesn't mean that you can't tap into people around the world. It doesn't mean that you can't pour and do everything. But, like, knowing that your identity is wrapped around this place that's really important to you,

I think even makes you more interesting, right? Because people are like, oh, I get a taste of what Harlem is like through this dude. and I get to see how Harlem reacts to the world through that person. Same way with Wallow and Gilly. Where there are some people, I think that it's like they are for the world, some people that works better. But what I've noticed is like there's always longevity

and having that core identity in those people who represent. I think that's the word I would use identity. Like when you think Gilly and Wallow, you think Philly. When I think Cam and Mays, I think Harlem. But to that point, like it is what it is. Their base is sports. A million dollars worth a game Their base is giving out game

To a younger generation Yeah So you gotta have a base Just like drink champs Their bass is Hipop stories Getting older hip hop artists They're there to drink

And tell those stories As long as you got your base You can build whatever On top of it And then you can talk about culture Like a lot of the stuff I'm watching when I'm watching Not only Wallo and Gilly

When I'm watching like Cameron Mason It's just they're reflecting on culture That's the protein Yeah yeah You want beans You want chicken You want beef you can put it on top of that base on top of that lettuce that care whatever.

Brilliant idiots, our base is idiots. Yes. We're really idiots. Yes. Who aren't mature enough to have a lot of conversation. Thank you. Okay? So as long as we got that base, then we're good.

We can put whatever on top. Y'all are the ones that started taking us serious. Why would they do that? Why would they do that? Now, I'm not saying that you can't get something out of this shit. No, a broken clock is right two times a day. That's right. You know what I mean?

Maybe more in a digital world. See why you shouldn't take that serious? That was fire though. That's one of these shit people repeat for no reason. No, the other one. The talk is right twice a day, but not in the digital world. Woo! FIRE!

It's all about the reaction. Then people sit around feeling stupid like, what did he mean by that? No matter. That shit was fire, yo. Thank you too much. That shit was fire. Thinking far too much.

Listen, Mace reveals craziest thing he's ever done with a girl was asking for the ring. Would you ever ask a girl to buy you a wedding ring? No. No. By herself the wedding ring. I think that's what he asked. But what if the girl bought the wedding ring and then got on her knees to propose to you? That's just crazy.

You wouldn't do that? You wouldn't accept it? Yeah. I mean, I would accept it, but it's just crazy. Equality, bro. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We have all these conversations about gender roles.

Why can't a woman buy a ring and get on her knee and propose to me? But some of the best times of your life will be like when your girl knows you're about to propose, but you don't do it yet. And she's just on good behavior for about six weeks. Don't lose out on that opportunity in relationship. No, mine was the opposite. Well, yeah, we know. Yeah, she didn't know I was going to propose.

Oh, why would she not think? After 17 years, they wouldn't propose. What would we give her that idea? We're together for 27 and we've been married for. 4-12. Yeah. That's a pretty good ratio, bro. Oh, my God.

But together's this kid. Fifteen years. You know what I'm saying? We've got to these kids. Like, what the fuck? You're going to get married in kids in high school? Yeah. You let people live their life, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? But I think the better reaction is when the woman doesn't know she's going to get proposed to. And you surprise her. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, like if she knows, it kind of like, eh. Well, no. I think she should know it's coming. She should know it's coming.

And then you just kind of milk that stage for a little bit. You should know she wants to marry you because the last thing you want to do is propose and she says no in front of everybody. That's kind of why I like women doing it to men because women need to get told no a couple of times publicly. No, you don't think so? See, everybody wants to just jump to equality without letting the embarrassment that a lot of men have felt go to that other side.

Like, you don't think we need to see just a few more years of women getting down on a knee proposing and getting embarrassed publicly. Yeah, that, that is, that is heartbreaking. I watched that love is blind, man. That show is brutal. Did you propose? I proposed. We just had a conversation.

Wow. What was the conversation? Let's do this. It's the same thing, Chris. I didn't get down on my knee. Did you ever ring? You didn't have to. Nope.

Oh, wow. And my dad actually got mad at me about the whole thing. Really? What did he say? We were going to Taiwan. to see my in-laws and he was like you have to ask her father for permission. No, I don't. That's some old-fashioned shit.

God damn, Chris. I agree with him. I agreed on that. You asked you. I didn't. What? Yeah. Pieces of shit.

I did it. I did it. I didn't. I didn't. Absolutely asked my dad. My dad. My dad. My dad.

How'd you ask him? He said, this is very important to me. You need to do it for me. I don't care if it's important. So how'd you ask her dad? Because he doesn't speak English. He speaks English. Oh.

Yeah. Oh. Professor at Berkeley and University of Massachusetts for many years. I'm sorry. I apologize. No worries. So, yeah, I spoke to him. I said, you know, we're planning to get married. I hope that's all right with you. You know, I'd like to make sure that he said, that's fine. It's great. We're very happy about it. Were you nervous when you asked him? Not really. Just do it. Whatever's, whatever's coming. There's no joke. I'm literally just trying to understand the emotion of the moment. No, I wasn't. Because I, we had already discussed

it and like that was the conversation, you know. And I was pretty confident. they were going to be all right with this. What about you, Alex? Yeah, what was your proposal? It's funny, I didn't ask for permission. He just played that. Damn, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Wet or die is crazy.

I saw her father, like, after the fact, and he's like, no, I'm glad you didn't ax me because she's not my permission to give away. So he respected the fact that I didn't ask him. Yeah. I think you should do it out of respect. Like, you know, like, first of all, yes, I agree with what your not father-in-law said. Is your father-in-lawyer?

I mean, technically, no, not yet. Not technically. So I agree with what he said, but he knows whether or not his daughter wants to be with said individuals, especially if y'all don't have been together for a while. Yeah, but she knows best. She can make her own decision.

It just depends, like, if you think women are, like, equal. Like, if you think women are property, then obviously you have to have to have. Ask the property owner before you can make a purchase. I thought you asked the dad to make sure that dad is cool with it. Meaning like, I don't fuck with you like that. I don't want you to be married to my daughter. The way I look at it is like if the dad is paying for the wedding, I'll ask.

Yeah, I don't like that. Now, that's a tradition that needs to fucking go away. If I'm paying, I know you got four daughters. Oh, that's a lot of work. We need movies in New Jersey. That's a fucking tradition that needs to go away. By the way, I don't know anybody that does that. My wife's father contributed to the wedding.

Yeah, they do contribute and that's awesome. It was a nice contribution. Very nice and we're grateful. Yes. I remember your wedding. I loved your wedding. Oh, that was so fun, man. That was a good time, man.

That was a beautiful little church or it was like a town hall or something? Yeah, Charleston. Yeah. Was it a church or was it like the town, the city hall? I don't know if I remember. It was like right in downtown Charleston. I think it must have been a church. I don't remember.

Remember when you did the whole ceremony? You don't remember your wedding. No, I remember, but I don't remember the detail to that shit. I didn't plan it. I just knew what to be. Divorce him, though. Yeah, yeah, right. Just go back to...

You remember the name and the location you got married at? Yeah. Really? Yeah. What was it called? My in-laws' house. The in-laws' house? Yeah.

Get the fuck out of here. I did not know that. Yeah. That was fun, too. Weddings are great. Yeah, weddings are great. Wedding. Wedding a fucking awesome, bro.

Get fucking married, Joe. Get married. I promise you, man. No, I cry at everybody's wedding. It's the best. Weddens are great. But not when they're like a thousand people and you barely know anybody. Nah, no.

When it's like the people that really know and care and love. Let's see. It's the best film. 50 people max, you know what I'm saying? I think you could go over 100, but I think when you get in the 300, 400, 400. No. Nobody even likes you like that. You know what I'm saying?

That's the thing. It's like, it becomes like a community gathering instead of an actual celebration of love. And you want people there that's, going to respect your marriage and respect the moment. They're not going to be on their phones. I made everybody put the phones away. No, you didn't. Yes, I did.

Oh, you didn't. I was there. I took pictures the whole time. You didn't make anybody through. You are thinking about a different wedding. I took people's phones. You didn't take nobody's phones because that technology didn't exist. No, we took people's phones, yo.

This guy's going to lie. You're going to lie? Maybe we told everybody don't take pictures. I don't know. I just know there was no phones and shit like that. There was phones. I have pictures. I don't believe.

You got to show me the picture. I'll show you all the pictures. This is just insane. What wedding were you? I don't know. I'm looking up pictures right now. It was a great time, though. I know that.

I'm looking at a picture. We had a great time. I got fucked up the night before. I think y'all got in town that Saturday. We had the wedding. We had a great reception. Like, that shit was fun, man. God damn, we old, bro.

Yeah, we're old. Like, we are old. You're not old. Huh? You're not old. I don't know. That shit seems so long ago. Andrew wedding was what, 22?

Mine was 2014? Was my wedding in 22? Yeah, it was like peak COVID. COVID was still around now. He was outside. He flew to California. No, it was COVID, bro. Really?

Yeah. It was like, it's kind of over, but still. Rogan, I told Rogan, I was like, bro, I need a COVID test for you to come, you know? And then he, you know, he's like, fine. And he sends me a picture with a middle finger and a negative pill. hilarious let's pay some bills everybody still got COVID at my wedding by the way

it was a super spreader event I definitely got it everybody got it we were supposed to go to Kabul we were supposed to go to Brazil I think my wife planned that shit so I didn't look at these bitches in Brazil you went? No because we got COVID oh so you went to Miami instead same difference

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Man, Pastor Jamal Bryan encourages his congregation to donate, to forego donating to the church to donate to people losing their snap benefits. That's beautiful. Beautiful. During his recent service, New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, Pastor Jamal Bryant,

encourage this congregation to give back in a different way. According to 11 alive, this past Sunday was supposed to be a day for the church to raise $1 million. However, Pastor Brian is halting the initiative until the government shutdown has ended. He said to the news outlet, the congregation is supposed to be sensitive to the needs of the community, knowing that people are literally just trying to keep their heads above water, we're opening up our arms and opening up our hearts at the same time. The church already distributes groceries every other Saturday to about 1,500 people. However, this coming weekend, they're planning to help up to 2,000 people,

more than 40 million people receive SNAP benefits, which is around 22 million households that benefit. According to the Hill, there is an estimated $8 billion of benefits distributed. It has already been confirmed that the USDA will not provide assistance that SNAP benefits are cut due to a government shutdown. I'm going to tell y'all something, man,

and I said this already before, this government shutdown is not a political win for any party. Can you explain what's happening? Also, shout out Christianity, the goat. Well, shout to Jamar Bryant. There's a lot of Christians out there. I don't know if they're moving like this. No, no.

Shout out to him, but also he's inspired by the greatness of Jesus Christ. And if he wants to, you know, bless the world, like he has been blessed and do it in his image. So we have to give some credit to the King of Kings. Listen, I love it. You know, I am an ambassador for the Food Bank in Harlem, New York City. if you see the amount of people who need this type of food assistance you will understand why snap

and WIC not being available to people if it happens hopefully these people motherfuckers come to their senses in government and reopen shit but if over the next couple of weeks you know there is no snap and no WIC

y'all better motherfucking protect your goddamn next. Really? Because if you think that during the holiday season It's already the holiday seat. Thanksgiving is right around the motherfucking corner. And then you got Christmas and everything else. You got people who haven't had checks in three weeks, right? And now you're taking away people snap in the wicks.

So now people can't even keep no food in their stomachs. Y'all better go back and watch Tupac 20 plus years ago when he was on MTV talking about what happened when motherfuckers really get hungry. And they got to watch everybody else around them eat while they're starving. If I know that in this hotel room, they have food every day. And I'm knocked on the door every day to eat. And they tell, and they open the door. Let me see the party.

Let me see, like, them throwing salami all over the party. I mean, just like throwing food around. We're telling me there's no food in here. You know what I'm saying? Every day, I'm standing outside trying to sing my way in. You know what I'm saying? We are hungry, please let us in. We are hungry, please let us.

After about a week, that song was going to change the, we hungry, we need some food. After two, three weeks, it's like, you know, give me a food. breaking out of the door and after a year, and you're just like, you know what I'm saying? I'm picking the lock coming through the door blasting, you know what I'm saying? Can you tell me what's happening with the government shut down? Like, do you understand it?

Do you understand? I do to a certain extent. Democrats are trying to make a stand for health care, right? Like, they didn't want Republicans to hike the prices of health care. So they decided to say, hey, this little bit of leverage that we got, we're going to, you know, not vote to reopen the government until they decide to not. have higher health care prices, right, Chris?

Am I saying that right? Because they wanted to get rid of the health care rebates or something like that. So essentially, like, the government was stepping in to pay off the increased prices of Obamacare, if I'm not mistaken? The Affordable Care Act, yeah.

You think that's what it was. And so your premium is going to be a lot of higher. Why are we calling it the Affordable Care Act? Like, give some credit where credit is due. Let's call it what it is. It's ObamaCare, right? Yeah. It is. When he enacted it, it was called the Affordable Care.

It's just like, here's the thing, it's just like, let him have his legacy. But no, I'm going to tell you why branding matters, right? Yeah. Remember during COVID? People forget who was the person that, you know, pressed the gas on making, getting the COVID vaccine out. Yeah, Trump.

And remember when Democrats were saying, don't take it as being rushed? Yeah. Then when they got in office, they was like, no, take it is fine. You don't remember that? You don't remember that whole thing? Yeah.

So it's all about branding, you know what I mean? So if people will easily be like, no, get rid of ObamaCare. That shit is trash. Remember Jimmy Kimo did that whole sketch when he did a sketch when he went out in the street, it was like, how do you feel about Obamacare and people was like,

I don't like it. How do you buy the Affordable Care Act? Oh, I love it. Obama Care or the Affordable Care Act? The Affordable Care Act. And why do you support that over Obamacare? Do not like Obamacare. I don't like anything that has to be forced

for everybody to buy. This is not good. Do you think Obamacare is socialist? Yes, I do. Do you think the Affordable Care Act is socialist? No. Do you believe that Obamacare will eventually lead to gun prohibition? Yes.

Do you know that Obamacare and the Affordable Care are the same thing. No, they're not. Thanks, you made me look stupid. Oh, I got it. I got it. It is more, there's more bipartisan support when you remove Obama's name.

Exactly. Now, damn, I lost my train. Sorry, sorry. So what is, so we're talking, you were explaining to me what exactly. Oh, yes. Now, I have my idea, but that's why I'm not a fucking politician.

I don't think the government is ever worth shutting down. If I'm Democrats, I don't take that risk of not voting because I want to keep the government open. Right. I know this going to sound crazy. I would rather the Republicans hike the health care prices up.

So now as a Democrat, I can say Republicans did that. Like, it's a clear, this is the reason your health care prices are hiked up because of Republicans. Now, because it's been three weeks, the waters are so fucking muddied. Like, so Republicans have did a good job of blaming it on Democrats. You go to all of the government websites, it pops up as the Democrats shut down. Christy Noam did the shit in the airport, you know, saying, And it's the Democrats' fault. It's the Democrats shut down.

They did a good job of making people believe it's the Democrats. Well, it is. And it is. It is both. But it is to a certain extent because Democrats are also taking credit saying, yes, we're doing this because we're taking a stand for your health care prices. Healthcare prices weren't an immediate. Immediate food is.

Food not getting your check is immediate. So now nobody gives a fuck whose fault it is. I need food. I need food. I need food before you. Health care is an immediate problem if you're sick. 100%, but like more people are hungry than sick. But this shutdown is temporary and a lot of people can maybe stomach the temporary.

Can they? You say you rich motherfucker. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You rich, electric. You're talking about like bubbling people's premiums. Exactly. 30,000 to like, you know how many people are going to die? 6,000 of the country is living check to check.

It can't afford to miss a check. What's worth to starve or to die? You might die because you miss a check. What if, okay, let me let me, what if I'm, what if I'm paying my health care benefits, right? Yeah. But now I don't have no money to pay my health care benefits. So now you have health care anyway. But that's the thing.

Like, you hold out for Republicans to have to come to the table and, yo, we have to negotiate. 30 days is a long time. So what is- Listen, you know, listen, we act like, we act like people can hold out. The country couldn't hold out during COVID. So question. When everybody, when the country was shut down and everybody had to stay home, the country couldn't hold down for 30 days without a bill. Question, question.

So how was a regular person? Let me just ask a question. So let's say, for example, Democrats didn't vote to shut it down, right? They voted to pay the people. Sorry. After the government reopened, people are getting their benefits. They're getting whatever they need. What if they started using whatever leverage they have going into the midterms or on whatever

other bill is proposed to add those subsidies back to the Affordable Care Act? those people were taking care of. Like they have leverage at that point. No, but it's like there will have leverage in the future. There will be other things that people want to get past. Everybody's health care premiums got hiked up by Republicans, 2026 is right around the corner. Democrats could be like, this is why your fucking health care prices.

They're going to be furious. If you want them to come down, put us back into the motherfucking office the way we need to be. Yes, that's a good strategy, but also in doing that, people will die. Because people won't be able to afford that health care. with this too, Alex. Starving and not having health care. Just from the point, they're not getting money. No, no, let's...

I'm not having money to pay my fucking help. Well, back up, back up. Nobody will die, right, because it's illegal to refuse care to some of the United States of America. Like, a hospital has to take you in. So it's not about death, but, like, health care is incredibly important,

and there are things that will happen to you without having care constantly that could lead to your death. Yeah, but early prevention is very important. 100%. If you hold going to that, doctor, you might miss something that could have been caught. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying that. What I'm saying is

if you ask people, and we know this for a fact because there's evidence to prove it, would they rather have food or health care? They would choose food first. Why do we have to make that choice in this? No, no, no, no. I'm with you, Chris. But don't derail, Chris. Yes, I'm with you, Chris. Don't derail. My point is if people, a choice was made. Democrats made the choice. Democrats are making the choice that your health care is more important than your food. I think most human beings would say food is more important than health care.

So don't just say food. Your bills. Yeah, your bills. The way to provide for yourself is more important than your health care. But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't fight diligently to find some remedy for these soaring prices. And also it would be advantageous for Republicans to find a remedy for these soaring prices because they're going to look horrible come the midterms if all these voters that are

Republican that are also on the Affordable Care Act see these premium skyrocket 30%, 50% and whatever, and they're going to start going, hold on, hold on. You're not going to do anything about this. And these Democrats say they are, I'm going to vote that way. Simple. And again, I don't know enough. I'm a casual out here. Me too.

But to me, that seemed like better strategy. Don't take food off people's plates. Don't take food off people's table, because right now there's no political win for nobody. People are sitting around like, I don't give a fuck. Who's responsible for this government shutdown? This reopened the motherfucking government so I can get my motherfucking check. You go on to Taiwan for the holidays? Probably.

No, you probably not because the TSA agents ain't going to be motherfucking working at the air. Well, I'm worried about. My daughter's supposed to fly out of LAX this weekend. Exactly. And they grounded LAX the other morning. Exactly. So we're talking about immediate things. People can't see past their bills, bro.

And if I don't have no money to pay my motherfucking bills, which means health care bill, rent, mortgage, cyber truck fucking monthly bills, all of that shit. No, they're not, I'm telling you, people do not care about anything except give me my money. And they will not, they will blame it on, sorry to interrupt, but they will blame it on the people that are. keeping the government shut down, which in this circumstance, even if it is for

benevolent causes, is Democrat. Are the Democrats? Eventually, they will blame them. Because they're there to negotiate. Republicans aren't even coming into work so they don't have to negotiate. So Democrats are actually there. I'm not saying the Republicans are the good guys here. That's true.

And also, too, I couldn't be wrong about this. You could look this up, Chris. Being that Republicans control all the branches of government, there's some type of emergency funding they could enact if they want. to. Am I making this up? Because I saw Marjorie Taylor Green, the voice of reason. Yeah. Okay. Complaining about this. Marjorie Taylor Green.

He's out here. MTV. Okay. The voice of reason said something like that. I just think it's all fucked up, man. Then when you got to watch fucking Donald Trump give $40 billion to fucking Argentina, bro. Can you explain what that's about? It's really important, actually. No, I mean, we need to address this. Very important. Tell me what that's about.

They have a really beautiful. beautiful movement going on down there. They're embracing libertarianism. They're changing everything. It's going to be a model for the rest of the people. No, they don't know you're playing. No, I'm not playing. This is important that we give them $20 billion.

It's really critical. 40 billion? Oh, even better. It's very important at this moment that $40 billion goes to Argentina to help promote their new economic policies. It's critical. More important than health care. More important than WIC.

Snap, all that chip put the- arms here in America. Oh, yeah, definitely. Fuck them, man. Soybeans. Nobody likes soybeans. Seriously, though. I want to...

What happened to Maga, bro? Well, I want to ask, I want people to keep that same energy when America is given tens of billion dollars to fight foreign wars in other countries. Taiwan is okay. No, no, no. Everybody else is unnecessary. Taiwan is... I'm just saying, like, I hear a lot of people upset about America giving $40 billion bailout

to Argentina and going, what about Americans at home? Well, a lot of people were very frustrated. that America giving, you know, tons of money, billions of dollars to people overseas to fight wars that we know nothing about when there are people struggling home. So I just want, I don't want to do what aboutism, but I want people to keep that same energy. No, I don't think we're doing what aboutism because I think we have been consistent in saying that's not what we want. Take care of home. We've always said, that's all I've always said that's why I've always said the Maga America First Messaging works. But when you're the architect of the Maga America First Messaging, that looks crazy

giving $40,000. Well, they did Doge. They very, very. slowly and systematically went through all. No, I'm serious. They went through all the expenses of this country. And it was important to fire, you know, tens of thousands of federal employees. That was very critical. But that allowed us to give $20, no, $40 billion.

Now, he did just win re-election. Why didn't we get that money? Yes. Well, I don't know if he won, like, a vote of confidence. Let's call him. I don't know if it was an actual. I think that he won it because he was. But you know, this money went to his election campaign.

I don't know. No, this is true. I'm not denying you. This money went to, look it up. It went to his election campaign. The guy in Argentina. My feeling is like I really don't care about what other countries are doing. No, no, no, no, no, I do.

That's all I tax pay in dollars. No, no, no, meaning what I don't care about what they're using our money for. I don't want them getting the money if Americans need it. Word. We need it. I don't need that shit. No, no. If it is better.

beneficial for America and Americans, then I'm okay with that. But it has to benefit us in some way. Ideal, I can't pronounce. Ideologue. He's a, he represents what Trump likes. That's the benefit. There's no actual economic benefit. So there's essentially a, he is, we have an ally in Argentina.

Is that the idea? Beautiful head of hair also. Yes. Oh, that's a real, God damn. I know that was a real picture. I thought that one of them pictures that just be scrolling on a website. And it just pops up. That's really him?

Yeah. milay and a large portion of the money is contingent on him winning yeah so it's like if he doesn't it went to his campaign yeah 40 billion yeah if he does 40 billion dollars of u.s. taxpayer dollars going to fucking argentia this is the problem with with all of these policies it's just like tell us how this is beneficial to america if you tell me that giving argentina 40 billion dollars gets america 80 billion dollars i would go that's a great investment because now americans are going to get more food on their plate they're going to have more opportunities again if If it's not the case, which it looks like it's not, then I'm critical of it.

But if we're investing in any country around the world and it benefits America, explain that to us. Click that one right there. Sanders rips Trump for finding $40 billion to bail out Argentina while cutting off food aid in America. I don't like it. I just made a donation this week to four different food banks, right? I'm already, like I said, I'm a ambassador to the food bank in Harlem, but I did a donation to a food bank in Columbia, another, two of them in Columbia, actually, and another one in Charleston. I'm going to do one in Jersey as well. Why am I doing that? Because you care.

$40 billion? Like, there's no way in the world, I can be the president of the United States of America. No, 42 million people are about to lose their motherfucking food aid benefits. And I give $40 billion to another country. And then when they catch me on my fucking plane and asked me about it in regards to them and the farmers, I start talking about how this other country is dying. how the farmers in this other country is dying? What about the fucking Americans? What do you have to say to U.S. farmers who feel that the deal is benefiting Argentina more than it is them as they are...

Argentina is fighting for its life, young lady. You don't know anything about it. They're fighting for their life. Nothing is benefiting Argentina. They're fighting for their life. You understand what that means? They have no money. They have no anything.

They're fighting so hard to survive. If I can help them survive in a free world, I happen to like the president of Argentina. I think he's trying to do the best he can, but don't make it sound like they're doing great. They are dying. Well, there's American farmers that are also struggling, and they're like, what about American beef?

Because I think he said, we're going to buy their beef, or they're going to give us their beef, and it's like, well, we got beef in America. Now they have phenomenal beef in Argentina. I just want to let you. No, sensational. But to me, it doesn't matter.

It's like, what do Americans need? And their needs needs to be met first. And that's going to be frustrating for people on the right, and the left, by the way. Both sides agree on this issue. Bro. That's where it comes together.

What do we talk about all the time? There's two things. This is why Mondania is one. There's two things in this country people care about. Safety. Affordability. It's more money in their motherfucking pocket. It's really just that goddamn simple.

So when you start talking about we can't eat, we can't pay our health care, we can't pay our motherfucking bills. Some of these people, how long has this shutdown been? Three weeks? Yeah. Yeah. Yo, and it started like around the first.

You think the landlord gives a fuck that the government is shut down? You think that fucking your card note gives a fuck that the fucking government is shut down? You think the electric company gives a fuck? No, they want their fucking money. A majority of Americans are living check to check. What are we talking about? No, it's, you're right, man. I don't what are you talking about?

I mean, yeah, I wish there was something silly about it, but it's not. No. Americans got to eat first. That's it. That should be the American policy foreign and within the country. America eats first. Eat the rich is in America, bro. Right now.

What does that mean? Eat the rich. You're going to have a lot of people who are going to look at folks who are making a whole lot of money. Oh, yeah. And they're going to be like, oh, that's where all the motherfucking money is going. Yeah. And you're going to see, sadly, more violence against people in those positions of power. Yeah.

Unfortunately. But not only, it's not even unfortunate or unfortunate, it's like there's also going to be a lot of violence around not rich people because that's just where violence is most easiest to commit. So those are the people that can end up suffering double. Oh yeah, because if I don't have anything and you got a little something, I need that. I need that little something, bro.

I hate to say it any other way, but that's just the way the mother fucking world is. All right, so let's open up the government. Democrats figure out how we can get those subsidies back for the people that need over the next six months or the next year or two or whatever it is. Like why not Democrats folding in about a week. What do you mean? But you say that, but they just passed the big, beautiful bill, which is where all these cuts are in. So how do you just undo something that's passed? We do that all the time.

We pass new bills. We pass other bills. You need help from Assad. Well, I think what you need to do is be politically savvy here and then showcase the Republicans. why it's politically advantageous for them to help out with these subsidies and show them that if they pass a bill, it's going to push all these people off their health care. It's going to be devastating to them in the midterms. So instead of trying to win the midterms, try to win the American people. Who goes the fuck? I know politicians wouldn't answer, but who goes the fuck who wins

the midterms? The winners should be American people that need health care and also American people who need a paycheck. But if what you're doing is leveraging the suffering of Americans so that you win an election, I don't know if you're helping the American people or you just helping your party stay in power or gain more power. And to me, I think to the average American, they would probably look at that as disgusting, just as they would look at the big beautiful bill knocking these people off their health care as disgusting.

Both of them are not caring about the American people in that moment. My home boy, who's a political strategist, he texted this morning, or last night, he sent me the political article about how Democrats face moment of truth as shut down coalition phrase. And he put, Dem's going to fold in about a week or so.

He said, once them cards don't run, talking about the VVT cars and everything else, and then flights start fucking up, ooh, it's a wrap. Ain't no Obamacare subsidies in sight. And here's the thing. So you know how you're going to get nothing out of it? Say what you want about Trump,

but his support from his base far supersedes any Democratic leadership or support right now. Democrats don't even... Which I don't understand. I'm going to be honest with you. Regardless of understanding or not, you would acknowledge that there isn't like a figure in the Democratic.

Democratic Party that everybody would just go, yeah, we got that guy, that guy's got her back, we support him no matter what. So when you don't even have somebody that's at the home that people trust, none. And the Republicans know this. Why isn't health care of that issue, though? That's what's always confused me about America. You can't find anybody in America who likes their health care. It's not like even rich people have great health care. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's health care sucks. And the further down you go the worse and worse it goes. And most countries of a similar status to ours have great health care. Yeah.

When I explain to people what our system is from other countries, they think I'm making it up. They can't believe that a country this wealthy. Well, hold on. Chris, you know what you're right, but you know why we can't have the health care conversation right now? Why? Because the government shut down, the niggas can't pay any bills. Okay, but this is a conversation that's been going on my entire life. Yeah.

My question is. Same thing with guns, man. Why can't, why isn't that the one issue that everyone's like? Get money out of politics, bro. We have a stake in this thing. We all have the same things. Get money out of politics. I know what they're given reasons are.

It's a fear of socialism. How many people have health care in America? I don't even know what the number is. Chris, Chris. No, that's 1,000%. A lot of people have no health care. Yeah, but the justification they might say is like socialism, whatever this shit is.

But like the reality that matter is that there's a lot of money in lobbying against these things. Right, and the lobby started in the 1950s to push back against communism and socialism. That's where the whole... It was a justification in that one. Yeah, the whole healthcare law started. They used that red scare as a way to justify the policies that they profit from, for sure. 100%.

But, like, I think there's actually an interesting thing happening in America right now. We're like, we seem to be the most aware of lobby groups and how they affect governmental decisions that are not advantageous to the people. That's beautiful. Right? That's beautiful. You've seen it with APEC, right? You're seeing it.

I hope we start to see it with the pharmaceutical lobby. I hope we start to see it with, like, the health care lobby in general. And the more we understand that these groups are lobbying against the best interests of the majority of Americans, I think the less power that an influence they'll have in government be as we start to go, oh, like when you call the team Jeffries, whatever, like Apoc Chouacore or whatever, I think we start looking at these other candidates that are taking millions of dollars from the health care lobby. We start to go, oh, you're just the United Health Care guy. You don't actually care about the American people.

And that's a very good thing that's happening. It's not something that happens overnight. But I think the end result of that is you can't keep poking the American people in the eye in expecting us to think that we're having trouble seeing. There's something poking us, and that's why. Pause. You know who some of the biggest lobbying groups are? What's that?

The United States Chamber of Commerce, right? So they do the largest business trade association. The National Association of Realtors. Ooh, that's interesting. Yes. Pharmaceutical, we knew that. Pharmaceutical Research and Manufactures of America. used to be tobacco.

I don't know if it is anymore. American Medical Association and American Hospital Association. A-PAC is number five. Yeah. So like, here's the thing with the lobbyist groups. Where's the NRA on that? They're not even in the top five.

You know, it's so interesting about lobbyists. I was thinking about this other day. And I said this to, I think, Governor Josh Sparrow when he was on. Maybe it was Josh Pryor. I don't remember. I don't know if I have a problem

with lobbyers groups? Meaning like, you know, I hear some people say, I'll never vote for a person who takes a dollar from APEC. You know, by the way, it's more than just, APEC's not the only pro-Israel lobbyists.

Yeah, for sure. I think that, I don't know if I, I don't think I would go that far that would say I wouldn't vote for somebody who wouldn't take money from one of these organizations because if that's the case, you're not going to vote for anyone.

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But can, I don't think I have a problem with how much money you take if you're not beholden to the lobby. If you're still able to put people over the lobby, if that even possible?

People don't give you money to finish the heart. You don't know, right? Right. I mean, that's, if you want to take this, I forget what the number was, $130 million donation to the Pentagon this week. Oh, my God. What's up with that, bro?

You think somebody gives Trump $130 million just to hold you over? There's a fucking mass. I mean, who is this person? And how do we even know that the military is going to get a dime at it? How do we know that this person isn't have access

to defense contractors and isn't going to get paid. I mean, it's like open bribery. Whenever someone gives you money, whether it's a lobbyist or even worse, it's a situation like that. They want something from it. There's an expectation. What's the saying there's no free lunches, right? No free lunch.

Okay, so let's go back to the horror analogy, right? Yeah. If you give a girl some money or you buy her some nice gifts, because you don't owe you no pussy. Right, but you might be upset if you don't get some. Okay, you just move on to the next. And then you might not give any more.

to that girl. And that's what they're worried about. You might give to the girl that's going to be competing with that girl. And if that girl that's competing with her ends up winning, you're like, fuck, I should have just taken that money. But let me tell you why I disagree with, no, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I'm going to tell you why the girl in the position of power will always have suitors. So as long as you stay in that position of power, so if I'm the guy that takes money from these lobbyists, but I'm not beholden it to them. In fact, I'm telling people, yeah, this motherfucker gave me such and such stuff, but I don't give a fuck. It's about the people.

Yeah. And I got the people on my side. Why would you take the money then? Because I got to fucking win a campaign. Because what happens is sometimes these lobbyist groups will put money against you and not even mention anything about what they care about. So they'll literally just do a hate campaign on you saying all the fucked up shit about you so that people don't trust you. And then you lose your election. and it got nothing to do with what the lobbyist group cares about.

They just know that the next person is going to be more sympathetic. I got the people, man. People trust me. The people believe me. I'm on these podcasts talking to the people. I got my own podcast talking to the people. But now that's, now you're talking about Bernie Sanders. It's like you can't lobby against him who.

Donald Trump. Exactly. I got the people. Exactly. So you can't bully him, right? Like, I'm not saying he's not transactional, but you can't buy him. Like Elon learned that. Well, no.

Oh, that's a good point. You can spend on him. You just might not get anything. That's what I said, right? I said he is transactional, but you can't buy him. Meaning, if he doesn't want to do something, it doesn't matter how much money is that. I gave you $130 for the Pentagon. Fuck you.

I don't care. You're not getting that contract. But again, if he wants to do something, he thinks that that works. He would love to help you out if you got his back. But if he decides he doesn't want it, like, for example. He never gives up his power. Exactly. He never gives up the power.

Because he understands the power is the thing that these people are buying into, and he has to constantly remind you. Access. So, for example, like, you know, they, he, he's never giving up. I mean, J.D. Vance just said, like, yeah, Israel's not taking to West Bank. We're not going to let it happen. And they could do whatever vote they want about seas and the land, but we're not going to do that. It's not going to happen under this administration. That's a Trump policy. That's not the Israeli policy or Beebe's policy or the people in the people or whatever the term exactly is. Right. But that's the American people or Trump literally going, yeah, we don't support that. And that's not going to be the best thing for peace. Now, the Adelson's who gave them $100 million in the fucking campaign, they might have wanted a different answer. out of him in the same way that Elon might have have wanted a different answer out of him, but at the end of the day he's not going to give up his power. Never gives up his power. And that's a really great point

to Charlemagne made, because the second you give up your power, you actually offer nothing to those groups. That's what I'm saying. It's almost like they don't want you to do everything that they say. You know what I mean? It's a very interesting dynamic. And that's why I go back to my original point. No, they do, obviously. But once you do, then you're of no use

to them because they can do whatever they want. And he understands that in order for them to continue buying in. He has to give them enough, but also he got to let them know that they're not in charge. There's a way to distill this down pretty further, which is he just lies all the time. He tells people whatever they want to hear, it takes the money, and then he gets it moving. You got to win the election, Chris. On the whole lobbyists.

Are you describing politicians in general? No, no. That's not. Oh, sure. There was, for historical context around this lobbying thing, which I think is interesting, there was, what was that called? It was by part of McCain-Fingold, I think. 2000-ish. There was a lot of momentum about this.

I mean, that's the one thing I didn't expect McCain for a lot. It was a bill to start to try to slowly wean lobbying money out of politics. And it had momentum and it felt like there was a moment. This is what, 20, you know, four or five years ago at this point and it never went anywhere. But, you know, there's been momentum around this issue before.

It can't happen with traditional media Because these lobbyist groups also spend a lot of money on traditional media. For example, if NBC is selling pharmaceutical ads, if Kimmel's show, for example, is really just a show to sell pharmaceutical ads, he's not going to take shots at the pharmaceutical industry because NBC is eventually going to go, hey, Jimmy, do us a favor. You can talk about Trump. You can talk about these things, but this is where bread gets buttered.

Don't talk about it. So in the same way that they can lobby politicians, they can lobby the knowledge about lobbying to the people. What the internet has allowed to happen for better or for worse, because there's a lot of conspiracy bullshit out there, but what's allowed people to kind of a little bit start to understand how lobby groups could take away the best interests of the American people and the wishes of American people.

And then American people start going, man, we all want fucking health care. We all want there to be some rules on guns. Like, why are this not happening? Oh, there's these groups that are making tons of, money to make sure it doesn't happen. Oh, maybe those groups are bad and maybe the politicians that take money from those groups are not looking out for our best interests.

Let's go with these other ones that seem to be looking out for our best interests. And those politicians seem to be right now, the ones that are not bought or beholden, seem to be the ones that are having success. And that's why I don't understand these politicians. Because you take the money from the lobbyist, even if you do, don't give up your power. My power is still with the people. So yeah, I'm going to take your money so I can compete against these other motherfuckers. but I'm not going to do your bidding.

And guess what? When I don't want to do your bidding and I tell you that up front and you tell me I don't want to give you no money, guess what I'm going to go tell? Tell everybody. Every fucking buy. I'm going to be on every podcast telling everybody

the NRA trying to give me such and such. And I was going to take the money because I need to compete against these people. But when I told them no, I'm not going to do your bidding, they say, well, you're not getting no money. So hopefully the people could say, well, here's $5 for your campaign and you can make up that money through the people.

But you know, I don't, so go back to my original question, do you have to be beholden to these lobbyists? I think what you... That's still a huge risk, though, because... Not really? No, no, you don't, you don't, like, what I would say to them is I'd say to the NRA, I'd be like, listen, you can absolutely donate to my campaign. Like, I would never be in politics, but you can donate to my campaign.

I believe in the, you know, people's right to bear arms. Like, I believe in that, but... I'll believe in common sense of gun reform. Common sense of gun reform. And that's something I'm support. Now, if they go, well, then we can't really give you money. I say, that's fine. But if you do give me money, hoping that you can kind of like weasel me into some shit,

you're going to find out that you're not able to. And then if you pull back the money, I'm going to say, hey, that same lobbyist group, that same company that is giving money to my competitor in this race, they gave money to me. And the reason they pulled that money is because I wouldn't do the thing that I said I wouldn't do. Right, the NRA doesn't even donate to Democrats. Yeah, they know. They haven't donated to Democrats in years.

Look at all, Chris. But you know what this is? When the last time the NRA, I mean, they haven't donated to Democrats. Democrats in years. I bet you, I bet you since 2020. No, I think before that. I bet you around that. Maybe I think Bernie was actually,

I don't know if he took money from the area, but he was pro-gun not because he was his constituents were. So what I would say to this is like, uh, I think back in like the year 2020, if I'm not mistaken, maybe even 2010, there were 40 Democrats

in Congress that were against abortion. Democrats. Joe Biden when he was first, the congressman was against abortion. Now there's not a single Democrat that is against abortion. What has happened is that politics have become so polarizing that there is only one way that you can be in business, either on a Republican side or a Democratic side. And that is you have to pass the purity test of the party,

and the party has certain tent poles that you need to walk through, and if you're not willing to walk through, you have no chance. And that's a problem because now you don't have the fluidity. within the party that used to have. Used to have Democrats that believed in all these issues for working class people, but they might be religious and they might not support abortion in the same way, right?

And that is actually, I know abortion is very touchy subject, but that's actually important for having a larger tent for people to fit in. And that's the problem right now. You can't build a coalition because nobody passed the purity test. You do one thing that the party doesn't like and they throw you out with the trash.

You were right about 2020. The NRA now overwhelmingly supports Republican candidate's committees, the last meaningful, though still small, contribution to Democrats, came into 2020 cycle, $13,800. 2020 is when it all stopped. Something happened in 2020. But, I mean, even then it was super small, 13,800. Of course.

But, like, I think something happened after that, where just the polarization. And it says, yeah, the NRA's political financial support, it was a total, yeah, it was a shift near a total realignment of the NRA's political financial support, the one party, Republican is over. And that's, go, go out. If Zeron wins, that's going to be huge. for the Democratic Party because that whole passing the purity test is going to be out the window.

Well, it depends if there's another purity test for him and that might have different rules, but I agree with you. The rules for his purity test might be like, no money from billionaires, no money from PACs, etc. Oh, no, I just mean from Establishment Democrats. It's like, yo, shit, he has so much support. We have

to make our umbrella a little... A little bit bigger. Oh, look at that. Hold on. Hold on a little bit over there. During the night, it may be hard to remember, but there was a time when the NRA was a bipartisan organization. Yeah. During the 1992 electoral cycle, the NRA contributed 37% of its congressional campaign donations to Democrats. Republicans got the lion's share. 63% of the 1.8 million the group gave that year.

But it was not as if the NRA was a pseudo-wing in a party by 2016 that it all changed. So, you know, I was thinking, so why aren't Democrats harder on the NRA? I don't think they go harder on the NRA. You know, it's not like they need their fucking money. They're not getting none of their money. So what's keeping them from, like, actually going at the R&RA in a way? I think they go pretty hard at the NRA. You don't know?

I mean, some do. but I think there's a lot of their constituents that don't live in the inner city that actually do like to have a gun to hunt. You like to have a gun to protect their home. Yeah. You know, I know you're an independent, but like you believe in...

I believe my right to be honest, but I also believe in comments and gun reform. Of course. And I believe some of these guns don't need to be on the motherfucking street. Of course. I think most... I think 80% of Americans agree with that.

But I think what we're witnessing right now is that like because of social media and because of the internet, back in the day, the only way to get ideas out there to the world, you had to put them on certain existing platforms, i.e., like a nightly news show or something like that. So your ideas couldn't be so radical, right? Because you knew that you were feeding them to massive groups of

people that had different political values, right? So you had to kind of like shave off the edges a bit. You had to make them a little bit more palatable, almost four Republicans and Democrats. Like everybody was just a little bit closer. Now with social media, the internet, you could just speak directly to your interest group and nothing else. So politics and not only politics, every issue has become so polarizing and so extreme because you don't even have to care about the people who may disagree or may be on the fence. Matter of fact, trying to be nuanced right now gets no algorithmic support. Trying to be all things to all people get you nowhere. Well, not even all things. Like literally just trying to have a nuanced thoughtful take ends up pissing off both

extremes because they're so radicalized in how they think about things. So the way that we consume information, which is algorithmic clips, there is no portal to reward thoughtful nuance takes. The algorithm doesn't reward it. Like nobody's like, hey, I'm swiping my phone late at night. You want to see some crazy shit. You're not going, oh, what is an interesting nuance take about gun control or an interesting nuance take about health care and its cost?

you're just going to the wildest ones and then people gravitate towards that in general when they're creating content and now we have these polarized world where there's a hundred different silos of different opinions that are the strongest possible opinion that it could be on each topic

and nobody's talking to each other and nobody really feels fully represented you feel represented in one thing and then completely disagree about the next. Yeah, right. If this was a design from a foreign country to destabilize another one, it is.

It is. It would be perfect. I agree with you, Chris. Chris was saying this for some years, and I agree. I agree with them. Whatever Russia or China, whoever the fuck they did, the way they made us start having discourse, it literally changed our cognitive. It changed our cognitive ability.

Bro, you don't need it. I mean, that's what the whole, in my opinion, that's what the whole Saudi Arabia comedy show thing was. Nobody's talking about it. I told you two weeks from now, nobody will talk about it. There isn't a single peep on the internet about it, not a video, not a comment, nothing. To me, what I think it was is, I think there was.

foreign countries that didn't like that this could potentially happen or even maybe internal. I think they bot farm the fuck out of it. And I think American like TikTok political commentators started glomming onto it because they're like, oh shit, this feels like a story. And then there's views. The comedians started talking about it. But the second the bot stopped reinforcing everything, the story died. The next week, the tennis guys are doing the tennis match in Saudi Arabia.

Nobody says a word. The day after that, Shaq is there for, I think it was maybe the tennis match. Speed is there. Mr. Beast is doing a video there. And not a single conversation, not a single video, nothing. I think that the biggest issue with the era that we're in, because of, you know, whatever SIEOF has happened on social media, it just makes all of us think in extreme. Yes.

We don't play in the gray area at all. Like, no, to me, that's what critical thinking is. is like I can hear something over here, hear something over there, and then form my own opinion. Like, I can't stand. I would never do X, Y, and Z for X, Y, Y, and that's not true. Like, bro. And the A-PAC thing is a good thing. Like, I'll never take a dollar from, I mean, I'll never vote for somebody who took a dollar from A-PAC.

You might not say any pro-Idrill lobby is still, you're going to be sitting out elections for the foreseeable future. So what does that mean? So does that mean in 2026? Is this election not important? Yeah. In 2008, is that election not important? You also, yeah, there's a, there's a virtue signaling to that too.

And you put, but you put yourself in a corner is what I'm saying. You put your own self in a corner. Where you no longer can impact the course of the country. Yeah, 100%. But I also understand people, like, feel like I don't want to support this thing where I'm seeing tax dollars go to something that's not in the pen. I agree. But I'm not going to say I would never vote for a candidate that took a dollar from them

because I guarantee you when 2026 and 28 comes around. When you're going to look at the people. All of them is taking some money from a pro-Israeli. Or the other thing you could do is be like, why don't they just register as like a foreign, whatever, a foreign lobby group? Like, because there are plenty of them. Like Qatar has one. It spends millions and millions of dollars. And like, I imagine every single cudgeon and it has a different one.

So that registering in a different way, like, might be effective. And again, I don't know, I don't know exactly how that works, but I think that at least feels more fair. Right? Like, because if we're going to allow Italy to do it and we're going to allow Qatar to do it and all these other countries to do it, then like, why wouldn't we allow them to do it? I agreed. Let's pay some bills, man. All right, let's do some asking idiots, man.

Emda underscore Sib says a celebrity everyone likes, you don't like. Celebrity that everyone likes. You don't like? You don't like. That's easy. Oh, Drake? Much of them. Drake for you.

Probably. But, I mean, I don't dislike Drake. I just never like when Drake sings. I like when he raps, but I get why he sings now. I don't know, man. It just depends. Like, you know, if you glaze a little too hard, you're going to make me stop liking the celebrity.

I know, I know, I know. You like the underdog. I like the underdog. You don't like the crowd favorite. But I also like the person. You got to tell me why this person is so fantastic. You know what I'm saying? Like sometimes people just be chatting about certain celebrities

and, you know, don't really know why they like them. They just like them because everybody likes them. It's trendy to like them. Yeah. Oh, I, Taylor Swift. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, wow. I thought her show is phenomenal. We already talked about this.

I know. I thought his show is phenomenal. But I don't dislike Taylor. There's no celebrity I really dislike. You know, I don't really have that kind of energy for a celebrity. Yeah, there's no celebrity I dislike. I may not glaze like the rest, but I don't dislike too many celebrities. But I can, you name a celebrity, I can have an argument about you why.

I can have a contrarian argument with you. Who's someone that people don't like? Did you do? That people don't like that I do. A lot of people. A lot of folks. I'm trying to think. I mean, who?

Like, you got to give me an example. A musician. We're keeping it strictly music? We can. I don't know. Because, I mean, everybody I like this, people that like them. That's the thing. The most popular people are very polarized.

A polarizing. You're in. Like, you know, it's a great question. It's just tough. And I guess I'm, I'm a right. It depends who it. it is. Like, I'm a ride for like, like, if somebody argues with me about Cardi, I'll probably argue with you about Cardi. Yeah, but Cardi's fire. But just because not only is Cardi a fire

artist. You also know her. She's a good person. Yeah, like, is, you know what I'm saying? Once you know somebody, you're defending who they are as a human versus, like, somebody's perception of them based on tweets. I hate when people tell me I'm biased towards Cardi. I'm not biased towards Cardi. I love Cardi. There it is. Yeah. But it's also like, you know her. You're not arguing, you're not arguing with her sister about her. No. Arguing with somebody who knows the internet's version of her. Exactly. Not only has Cardi been super authentic since day one. Yeah. Since day one, we was this all on Instagram back in the day. She was super authentic. She came to my daughter's 60th birthday. I know. That's fire. You always, that's it. Never forget it. My daughter and her kids will never forget. Never forget.

Long as they live, she will always be able to say Cardi B came to my sweet 16. Cardi starring them in no time soon. That's going to always be a thing, all right? So for all you people that say I'm biased towards Cardi, I'm not biased. I love her. Okay? Suck my dick. Talk that shit.

Right from the back. On the back. I'm riding with big body every single time. They do that with me with fucking Rock Nation too. Oh. They say you're too biased for Rock Nation? Yeah, but it's not that I'm biased. Here's the thing.

And to your point, and I've always said, you know, when you actually know people in the business, your exceptional change. Yeah. The reason I like Rock Nation, Desiree Perez and Jay-Z and my man Beehi and Emery and all of them is because I've seen them. I've watched how they treat people that can't do nothing for them. That is all. Same thing we'll call it. Watch how certain individuals treat people. that can't do anything for them.

It's a true sign of someone's 13. That's when you know if a motherfucker's a good person or not. Yeah. I've seen all of these individuals I just named show up for people, right? Show up for causes. Show up for organizations. Seeing people make phone calls and just let them know what's going on and they show up anonymously.

Sometimes not anonymously. If people find out it don't matter, they're for the people. Yeah. I like people who are for the people. I don't get a fuck. What y'all think? Yeah. Y'all don't see what I see.

Yeah. Haven't been around what I've been around. That's why I ride hard for certain individuals. Yeah, but you don't know anything, Charlott. I mean, I watch three TikToks. It said different. Yeah. You watch three motherfucketing talks.

What the fuck would you know? The motherfucker telling you that people sacrifice goats and mix it with hamster shit and then make a nice little pace and then put that in a fucking beyond burger. Then they go get a little piece of human hair wrapping around their ear. And then they take a little airwax. out of their air, put that on the fucking human hair, and rub it between their toes, do two, three clicks, and then say,

ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, somebody died, and then they become a fucking superstar. So you think that's how shit works out here. Motherfuckers are really crazy. That's what they be doing on TikTok, yo. I wish Chris just ran in the door like, did you call me? Yeah. What I'm just saying, yo.

People just be fucking making up shit about folks, man. And it's just weird. But come on, dude. Like, wouldn't you rather just let some stranger on the internet make all of your opinions on the world for you? By the way, that's a great point. Isn't that an easier way to go through life? That's a great point. You know what you just brought up?

That's such a great point? What's that? The fact that there are people on YouTube. Yeah. That will tell those of us who are actually in the know that we don't know what the fuck we're talking about. Meanwhile, you're at home in your motherfucking basement in Wisconsin. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. I ain't never met a motherfucker. Coming to all of these conclusions based off what? Based off what? Man, shut up. By the way, and I want y'all to know something. I want to tell one y'all, say one more thing. If y'all think I'm in the Illuminati now, you just wait.

I'm giving y'all a heads-up right now. I'm giving you all a heads-up right now. I'm telling you right now, I'm giving you a heads-up. We get an A-Rab-M-N-A. I'm in the Illuminati now, you just hold your horse. How long we got to wait? How long we got to wait? I'm just going to let the year play out.

Okay. Just let the year play out, baby. It's already October, almost November. I'm just going to let the year play out. Once again, if you think I'm in the Illuminati now, you just wait. Y'all might as well start making your think pieces now. Get your YouTube videos ready to hit it. Just go ahead and do it now.

Just letting you know. What else we got? Which American city has the best food and culture, and this is from Empty Chair Tech. Without question, it's New York. It's not even close. No, that's not true. There's nothing even close to it.

It's not even close. Get out of New York City. What's another city that has culture? Get out of New York City. I can name another new that has better culture and better food than New York. You say Jersey right now. New Orleans. What I would say is.

No, I got, because I thought about that too. New Orleans has fantastic food, an incredibly unique culture. It's like you feel like you're almost not in America, even though you are. I will say 100 percent. Love New Orleans, but it's got just that. That's not what they asked about. Food and culture. But it has just that.

New York has a thousand different foods and cultures that you can indulge. Yeah, because y'all are a culturally appropriating city. Not appropriating. No. They come here. They come in. They're appropriate in New York. Same difference.

But New Orleans, New Orleans fire, bro. No, we love New Orleans. Now, I'm biased because I'm going to say Charleston, South Carolina. Man, come on, come on. But that's where I'm from. And I understand the Gichi Gullah culture and I love the food. But if I'm being objective. What's the culture?

You eat a raccoon on the road. Glella, bro, Gichi Gala, boy. Boxing you in your fucking mouth, boy. Boxing your mouth. I hear eating boogie. Listen. You know. New Orleans culture is so fire.

It is. Watch cash money and no limit versus on Saturday. It is. And that was a phenomenal fucking, bro. It is. Not denying that. That's something new that just happened? Cash money, no limit, just had a versus on Saturday.

That's how fucked up we are right now. The only thing that we all come together for right now is politics. Everything else that used to just be a gravitational force and bring all the people in to comment on it, that's done. They did it on a bad night. They shouldn't have did it on a Saturday. Because I was leaving the South Carolina Alabama game. I was leaving Williams-Bright Stadium and we put it on in the car.

But five years ago or three years ago, that could be on any night of the week. And we all would have tuned it. We were also at home, though. That's my point. And they used to do it during the week. Like, Locke dipstead was during the week. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you're at home on a random Wednesday and lots dipset on, you turn in that shit. Gucci Manjizi was a round. random fucking Wednesday at Thursday. But I miss monoculture. I miss when we all shared the same experience. Like, it was the one nice thing about COVID is that anything that happened,

it happened to all of us at the same time. Last dance was all of us at the same time. Any like meme or song or anything that went viral, a news story was all of us at the same time. Well, China, stop all this cyber shit. Stop! Get back to the bio war. Let us have a fucking monoculture again.

Shit. Give us three months in the house. Who's Cashmerty versus who? No limit. Oh, I didn't hear that far. Cash money versus no limit. That shit was fire. I mean, Wayne didn't show up.

Do you know who those groups are? Yeah, but Wayne didn't show up? Wayne didn't show up and Mystical is in prison, you know, but... Wait, why didn't Wayne show up? I don't know. They said different things. They said, young Turk said that Wayne said if everybody wasn't going to be there, he wasn't going to come.

And I guess Birdman and Turk got some type of issue, so Turk wasn't there. So Wayne was there. Wayne was actually in Vegas from what they were saying. I think they said he performed that Dreas. But it was still fire, though. I mean, man, because what you realize in moments like that is the impact no limit had on culture. Of course.

Right? And that's why when they asked me about it at first, like, who's going to win? I'm like, oh, that's a tough one. I gave the edge the cash money. You have to. No, you don't have to. Don't say that. You don't have to.

Cash money also has young money under it. No, you have Drake, you got Nicky. No, you do. That counts. What do you mean? It was cash money young money. No, it doesn't. Cash money is Juvie, B.G, Turk,

Little Wayne, Manny Fresh, Birdman. That's cash money. Young money was signed under cash money. So technically they are cash money artists as well. Yes it is. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. And no, and no, and absolutely positively not.

Okay, no. But no limit is dope. Me and X is phenomenal. juvenile, God amongst men like these people, like these are people who we watched from the 90s till now

and they've somehow gotten better. Everything that they said hip-hop isn't supposed to do, these people have aged better, their stage presence, the way they're able to command the crowd on a state. Like, Mia X killed it. The only thing I wish is that Wayne was there and I wish, you know, they would

have played some mystical records because mystical's in jail for some very heinous crimes. but it's still a celebration of music. You don't got to celebrate the man in order to celebrate the music. So you can play, here I go. You can play the man right here, and I wish they were the 11-year-X-dules.

You don't want to go to the world with the soldiers. You don't let me true, nickers. I thought I told you. He wasn't outside. Wasn't outside. Fathers Taco said, if you had to raise a kid of the opposite race, black-white, what would you teach them first?

Black kid? What would I teach them? kid first what's laughing at over here what would you teach a black kid verse show you got to teach him how to pronounce it right you know I got to call you probably over you're like yo you don't make him sound crazy no what was the first thing you teach him I'm assuming this is like when they're old enough to like learn something not just how to be a good person and all that kind of shit uh the first thing I would say is like, look, man, you know, pops loves hip hop. You can listen to this music,

but don't you ever, under any circumstances, say this N word. Okay? I don't care what songs burn into your brain from years of listening to your father's music. Don't you ever feel like you can say this word, okay? And then the next thing I would say is, and if we get pulled over, All right. I need you to use your motherfucking privilege to get us out of this situation, okay? I'd be using my little white son's

fucking white girl's privilege like Starbucks Wi-Fi, bro. Are you out your fucking mind? Could Snoop Dogg have performed? Snoop came out. Oh, he did? He was in? First of all, Snoop put out more albums on no limit than he did death row.

Yeah, that's honestly. Hell yeah, Snoop came out and did it down for my hitter. Nah, so that if Snoop could do that, Drink it. No, he cannot. Snoop was No Limit, Alex. Original No Limit. Like Snoop did more albums on Def, No Limit than he did Def Row.

He did two albums on Def Row and like three on No Limit. Saved him when Def Row fucking collapsed. Big difference. Let's do one more, man. King Ivan. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, we did that one.

King Ivon says, what do you think we can do to help people that actually need government funding just to eat? Go to your local food bank, man. I told y'all, you know, I'm an ambassador for the food. Bank of New York City been ambassador for them for quite a few years. I just donated the one, two, three, I donated the three, four food banks today. Today, on the day we're recording this, this is the Tuesday. I donated the four food banks. I donated to, of course, the Food Bank in New York City and Harlem. I donated to, I'll give you all the names of them so y'all can look them up

yourself. Hold on one second. And if you can't donate money, you can donate your time. Yes. If you can't donate money, you can donate your time. I donate. I donate. I donate. I donate to the Broad River Business Alliance in Columbia, South Carolina. And I donated to Harvest Hope in Columbia, South Carolina. And hold on, I'm going to give you the one in Charleston as well. In Charleston, I donated to the Community Resource Center. And in Harlem, I did the Food Bank in New York. York City. Another good one that you can do in Charleston, South Carolina is the Hope Center. You know, I've been providing them breakfast for, I've provided them breakfast for a whole year since last year. So, yes, go to look up your local food bank, your local food pantry in your city

or your community, and, you know, just see what they need, whether it's money, whether it's, you know, resources, like groceries, whatever. Just go to your local food bank food pantry, man, because that's why I think a lot of people going to end up turning. Come on, Nick. Come on, Nate. Nick think I'm a fucking rookie, yo. Really?

What is that? I think I'm a rookie, yo. What is that? Come on. Does Charlotte Ella get that will fit checked out? Come on, bro. Come on, bro. He tried, though, buddy.

One more. How is Taylor? Is Chris going to vote for Curtis? I don't know. Go, go. Is Chris going vote for Curtis since they share the same view on Mopays? He probably would. He probably will.

Taylor's good. I talked to Taylor last week. Taylor will be back after Thanksgiving, man. Wow. Yeah, Taylor will be back after things. I talked to Taylor last night. I got to check in and get him. I thought to tell her all the time.

I saw her a couple weeks ago, but she'll be back after Thanksgiving. We love you, Taylor. Love you, Taylor, gang. Love you, man. Little Pete. Shout to Patrick. That's it. You know, yeah.

What do you keep scrolling for? Is that something you want to say, to Alex? No, I'm just, I didn't know if you want to do more. Oh, okay. No, I said that's the last one. You want to end with this one? This is a good good question.

All right, do that one, see if we can gum the other one. What's the other one? Gum down this ditch. God! Fuck! As all, let's just fuck out. Yeah! We're back!

Yeah! We're back! I'd slow play down. Holy shit for an hour. I let that shit simmer like a curry. You had some nice little oxdale right there, my brother. Wow. As always, if you listen to the podcast,

me fell up a bone into your mouth probably. We all of y'all that watch to the end. You're welcome, all right? As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too.

It's the brilliant idiot's podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.