The Brilliant Idiots - For All The Blawgs

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:30 I love the premise of this show. Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit. Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby. The Brilliant Idiots Podcast. Shalamaena God. Andrew Shultz. We are the Brilliant Idiot podcast.
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Starting point is 00:01:22 Fucking it, over here choking. I ate that goddamn protein protein because before we started the show, man. Shit. How was you with? We had to walk up to four places I know, I know the elevator. We got to get the elevator fix. You know, it's some things that we got to
Starting point is 00:01:38 we got to figure out over here, man. How was your wink, man? Dude, I had a crazy takeout the other day. What you mean? You're like food? Yeah. What kind of takeout? Sugandies.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I had... I'm getting God all week, yeah. I'll tell you something about brilliant. I was listening, man. I'm getting God all week. Like, I'm getting God all week. Yo, somebody got me at the mental wealth Expo so crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:01 No. So fucking crazy. No. What they say? You know, it's at the mental wealth expo. So he comes up to me talking. You talking about something, something? And he goes, yeah, man, I tried to get in touch. Um, I said, I met one of your interns named, uh, liquor. I'm like, liquor. Licka, come on. I know. That was so obvious. He was like, lick and eat. Oh! Now, but that's fucked. Because at the mental health expo, like, everybody's being vulnerable. You want to be there for them. So you trust everything they say. The comedy show, bro.
Starting point is 00:02:30 You know what I realized, man? I realize that people have been listening to me so long. They know I don't take too much serious. They know I would much rather laugh than anything. And so most conversations are that. I'm actually uncomfortable when the conversations way too deep. There's nothing we can't talk about that you're not going to tell me a joke can't come out of this in some way, shape of form. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:02:53 And he got me. He was like, look at he's nuts. In front of people or it was just one of one? It was me and my wife was security. Oh, that's fire. And all I can do is laugh, man. You know what I'm saying? So salute to him.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And the dude, oh, I had my dude from hip hop DX too. I think his name's Jeremy. Look that up, Taylor. Jeremy from hip hop dX, the white dude. He got me on the red carpet or the green carpet of the BET Award. Yeah, remember you tell you. But yeah, this shit is epidemic. The shit is not new.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yeah. Why are y'all hacking like these jokes in new? No, but it's back. It's definitely back, man. It's definitely back. I used to be good at it. I'm not good at that shit. I'm not good at catching it
Starting point is 00:03:29 and I'm not good at doing it because you were too excited when you do it. I'm gonna just start doing it. What do you mean? I'm gonna be like, man, you heard Drake do I'm? Somebody be like, nah, Drake D's nuts. Just because you know what I'm saying? Fuck that, I need to get my get back.
Starting point is 00:03:46 You don't fucking beat me up out there with this shit. Yeah, that's my guy, that's him right there. That's him. No, not him. Yeah, that's him. That's him, Jeremy. That motherfucker got me. Good. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:58 We need that video. We need that video. Now, he got me good. He got me good. What else that happened this week, man? You tell me about the Mental Health Expo. Oh, the Mental Health Expo is amazing. Mental Wealth Expo is amazing.
Starting point is 00:04:10 My third annual Mental Wealth Expo, man. It's salute to my guy, Carson, Daley. You know, Carson. He came through? Yeah, Carson was there. Me and Carson opened it up. You know, Carson is a big mental health advocate, man. And, you know, he deals with anxiety and depression and, you know, grief, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:26 because he lost his parents really young. And it's just like, the beautiful thing about the mental wealth expo and what I tell people, when they ask me, what I want people to learn from the mental wealth expo is simple. I want you to learn early what I learned late, you know, and I just want you to get started on your healing journey. That's all it's for. It's literally, we have a bunch of panels all throughout the day. We got breakout rooms for people to go do yoga and meditation, stuff like that. We got a bunch of different booths with a bunch of different resources, and the best part about it is free. And I don't get a fuck what nobody said, man.
Starting point is 00:04:55 If you say that you want to provide a service to the community and you say you're giving something to the community and you want people to learn about a certain thing, find a way to do it for free, especially if you already got it. If you already eaten and you tapped in, you know, with different corporations and things like that, how come you can't find a way to get services to these people for free? Yeah. So, you know, I can't wait until next year and just not even just next year. Me and Stiles Pee was talking about this because Stiles Pee was on one of the panels too. he was on the healing in the spotlight panel. Okay. You know, just different people who are in the industry
Starting point is 00:05:33 who are trying to heal in the spotlight. And we were talking about how, like, we got to start bringing this to the people. You know what I mean? Like he got, like, pharmacy for life and juices for life. So now you bring, like, two therapists to juices for life, pharmacy for life, and you just tell people in the community to come.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Just pull up, you know? Because nine times out of ten, all you just need somebody to talk to and, you know, get you, get you, started on the right path, so. Absolutely. What's his pharmacy for life? I never heard that.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Pharmacy for life. He got juices for life, which is just the juice. Yeah, no. Pharmacy for life is herbs and oils and... Oh, so... Natural homeopathic medications. What the fuck? Why he got to be all that?
Starting point is 00:06:13 What's up, man? He's a little bit of a homeopath, if you ask you. I don't know. The guy's a little bit of a homeopath. I mean, Stiles Pee, your favorite rapper's favorite rapper. Favorite rapper? I'm just saying, man, he likes. There was a time of my life.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I used to listen to D-block, and I just used to want to stab somebody with something sharp, yo. That's fire, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I couldn't listen to fucking the locks back. I had to stop.
Starting point is 00:06:37 What was the song that made you want to be most violent? Oh, my God. The one of, Breathe easy. Breathe easy. With Jay, it's like, if you know Jay, I've never been a brother in the front. I've been in L.A.
Starting point is 00:06:53 wearing any colors I want. Rock guns like shirts block under the pump, and I'll put something hot in any one of you chump. And I know a few of you want to get my watch, but it'll be a funeral if you get my watch and there's nothing you can do to stop the locks well. Run up in the gunshot, cop the top self. The crack game's dead.
Starting point is 00:07:10 All they want is weed now. Bitches that I went to school with a seed now. You know Jay cocky ball head, light brown. Something, something, man, my game looked like something, something, something. To all you little Jad is for a thousandth time, I don't recall. something, something to write in your rhymes.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And even if you did see me coming in and out of your house, there's no way she can have a baby out of her mouth or some shit like that. That's a fire bar. It was just so finesse with it. Just make you want to cut something, man. All right, tell, let's play your little game. Why do you keep calling it as well? Because we want to play your little game, man.
Starting point is 00:07:51 What is it? By any memes, Netflix, by all memes, necessary. Man, let's just get to it, man. Did you listen to Drake's album? Not in its entirety. Pieces of it. Did you listen to Drake's album, Alex?
Starting point is 00:08:07 I got through half. Okay. It's pretty long. We don't have to listen to a whole album to judge it. It's the fucking wrong with y'all. It's 2023. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With thoughts?
Starting point is 00:08:17 I mean, I was saying this on flagrant. Like, the pressure of being on the top is you have to be number one or it's a failure. every single time. There's only one direction you can go. That's an insane amount of pressure to be for about a decade. He's going to be number one. 450,000 slow. He's going to be number one.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But I think what happens is when people are on top, we start looking for reasons why they shouldn't be. And when people are coming up, we start ignoring the reasons why they're not on top and looking for reasons why they should be. So it's a way more difficult position to be on top because it needs to be perfection because everybody's looking for the little cracks.
Starting point is 00:08:56 They're looking for what's wrong with it. So I think a lot of people going out there and they're like, okay, why is this song not good enough? Why does this one suck? If he was a new artist that just dropped this album, everybody would be like, yo, this good is next. So, yeah, I'm a little hesitant. I'm a little hesitant.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Now, most people don't understand that pressure because they've never been in that situation. Never been good at shit. Exactly. So it's easy for them to just knock, right? Because they don't know what it's like to be on top. And also when you're on top, you can't cry about it. Right?
Starting point is 00:09:27 because nobody relates to you at all. There's five people ever been on top. That's right. And it's easy for you to knock because you've been tired of seeing this person went for so long. Now, let me tell y'all what I've learned about myself
Starting point is 00:09:36 and I have to talk to my therapist about this. Let's do it. Talk to me about it. It's totally wrong with me. Okay, in what way? Because I've been consistently hating on Drake for 13 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:47 You know what I mean? Not 13 years. It was hate in the beginning. Then it became fair criticism, you know, in the latter years. Huh? Haleen back. You get some of this.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Got it! You got me. You got to be. You got to. So, and I was like, oh, I think I could do it with lean. I lean. Oh, God. Okay, go, go, go.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Here's my thing. Damn, bro. Now that everybody is criticizing Drake's album the way I feel like I've always criticized it. You want to defend him! I'm like, no. I feel like the criticism is unfair. Devil's advocate to would die.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I can't even help me. This is how I really feel. I'm looking at all of this, and I'm like, I feel like this criticism is unfair because to your point, this is just another Drake album. He could have titled this album more of the same. So what is different than what he's giving you now than what he gave you last year?
Starting point is 00:11:00 You like the last one? What happened with the certified level wars? They made him the biggest artist in the world. Come on. Even when people were saying they didn't like, honestly, never mind. Listen, I was like, yo, it's elevator music. But I didn't mean that as a disc.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I meant that as if I'm in a luxury hotel like the SLS, Beverly Hills, and I walk in, I can hear this stuff playing. You know what I mean? I can get on the elevator and hear this album playing. I actually like ties that bind from honestly, nevermind. I actually like Sticky from Honestly, Nevermind.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I can say that whole heart of them. Okay? Yeah. So all I'm simply saying is why? Where were y'all when I was hitting on Drake 13 years ago? Oh, wow. Where were y'all when I was hanging on Drake 13 years ago? Honestly, I'm more concerned about all the people you celebrate.
Starting point is 00:11:45 If Shawl is riding for you, it might be a problem, bro. It really might be a problem. Are you liking all these people just to be different? No, I'm not. I do think that this criticism is unfair because I don't know. It's everything you say. This guy's been on top for so long that people are just, and by the way, it happens to everybody in any industry.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Human beings don't like when someone's in charge or someone's on top. For too long. Yeah, we have a natural primal inclination to drag them down. I don't. No, I know maybe you say you don't as an individual. I'm just saying like there's a reason our system of government in America, right, which was something that rejected royalty, where one person was in charge all the time,
Starting point is 00:12:26 we had a new system government where it was like, nah, someone could be in charge for a few years, and then we're to yank that motherfucker out of power and put another one and yank him, and what do we do with every single president? That's right. We exalt them, and then four years later,
Starting point is 00:12:36 we're like, he ain't shit, I'm still broke, etc. This is what we do. We love the underdog, we love the come up story. And we even love when you come up, but don't come up too much. Oh, don't separate you. You've never seen anything like this. You've never seen a guy who's been this dominant
Starting point is 00:12:51 and rap for this long. The only other person that we've seen, that is Jay-Z. And y'all did the same thing to Hove. Of course. I'm 45 years old. I remember I was there. I remember when Hove retired after the Black album,
Starting point is 00:13:04 when he came back with Kingdom come, everybody was like, oh, this shit is whack. You know what I mean? You need to retire. You know, dip set was coming at him. Everybody, like everybody had something to say about Hove. And he just put his head down and kept doing the work. Kept pushing.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And I expect Drake to do the same exact thing. He's going to put his head down and keep doing the work. Now, the only criticism I think is valid. People who are saying they want something deeper. We said this last week on Brewing, we had this conversation last week on Brewing News. What does that mean, though, deeper? That's what I'm trying to understand. Like his version of a 4-44-4-4.
Starting point is 00:13:39 No, no, that's not deeper, though. I would argue that that is mature, evolved. Yeah. Yeah, but what if he's not at that stage? Exactly. You don't have a wife. He has a kid, but he don't have a wife. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:13:51 He's not having these long-lasting, loving relationships. And he's not in his mid-40s. We're out there knocking him down, parties, buying real estate, making fucking TV shows. That's what the musical will reflect. Yes, we're acting like 4-4-4 didn't come out when Jay-D was in his mid-40s. Now, a better comparison is Mr. Morrell and the big step was,
Starting point is 00:14:09 but don't act like y'all were riding for that album when Kendrick dropped it. I love that album. I'm on record saying that is going to go down as one of the most important albums in hip-hop history. You know what y'all said when that album came out? Oh, man, it's too deep, man. I ain't there yet.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I'm not there yet, Joe. I'm not ready for that. Exactly. That's exactly what they're going to say. Or if, you know, Jay Cole put something out, right? What's the criticism? Oh, when Cole, we'll see. Cole's naming his next album, the fall off.
Starting point is 00:14:35 You know why? Because he know what y'all motherfuckers going to do. He's on top of it already. He know what y'all going to do. But I'm just saying, like, there's going to be a criticism for everything. And I think it's more of a function of, like, where he is in the game. Yes. And less of a function of the art he's putting out.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yes. Right? And, but here's the other thing. You can't be upset at the I mean, you can't be whatever you feel, but like, you understand that is the cost of greatness. The cost of being Michael Jordan is everybody's going to be going, magic was better, bird was better, this guy ain't the greatest. The cost of being LeBron right now is you going step is actually better. He is. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:13 The cost, right? The cost is always people trying to say why you shouldn't be exalted and in the position that you are in. That is the cost that you have to pay when you're on top. And if you're not willing to pay that price, then you won't be in that seat for a long time. You're absolutely right. And that's why what I say, the criticism is unfair. It's not the criticism with the music. I think the critique of him personally and all of that is a little bit like, all right, guys, come on now. Well, what are they saying personally?
Starting point is 00:15:39 But he's not growing up, bang. Yeah. He's hanging around. You don't even care if he's growing up or not. Like, are you really sitting at home going like, oh, man, I sure wish that Drake had a loving relationship right now. Nobody cares. Because the second he was in that shit, you'd be like, man, you soft-ass motherfucker. Here you are loving and singing.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Somebody said to me over the weekend. There are some people that are saying that. Somebody said to me over the weekend, they said, man, he never seen, you know, I've never seen this kind of critique on the album. I've never seen this many people not liking an album. I say, yeah, it's because you've never seen an artist like Drake. This is the, when you, he's in, this is rare air that he's in. And what you said about Braun is absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Drake and Braun get critiqued the exact same way. And you never will appreciate either one of them because we keep comparing them the spirits. Michael Jordan's a spirit at this point. Jay Z is a spirit at this point. You also got to, don't confuse people's addiction to attention with legit criticism. Like, there are people that are addicted to attention. And then the way that they get the attention is by having the take that most people will gravitate towards. The Drake economy is real.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Meaning if I have a negative take about Drake, it's going to get retweeted, it's going to get If you go, oh my God, what a talented dude, it's amazing. This guy's been on top of the game for 10 years. That's right. And the motherfucker got bars and he can sing. Nobody's clicking view. Nobody's click and watch. The problem is, and maybe it's a problem, it's a good problem to have, is that once you get famous, there are views in criticizing you.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And people will take those views. So you've got to be careful. There are people that actually have legitimate claims or they just have a legitimate addiction to attention and are willing to say whatever will provide that attention. And don't question me on that because I was doing it 13 years. way before y'all decided to start hating on Drake just for attention. I led that charge. You did it when it was no attention. When it was no attention.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Damn, you did it when it just hurt you. When I was just doing it to fuck with people. Yes. You know what I'm saying? People like, who's Drake? And you were like, exactly. You thumb with eyebrows, you know, there's three sexual orientations, gay, straight and gay, straight.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I was doing that just to piss him off. Wow. Didn't even know the guy. You did it for the love of the game. For the love with a fucking game. Not for no views. Not for a view. Who's, but I love it a game, but a love it, you know what, that, but I love it again, he looks like, you know what, now this is the perfect foil.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Ooh, Canadian, biracial, hmm, oh, this is the easy work. That's what you were thinking at the time. At the time, and this motherfucker grows to be the biggest goddamn rapper in the world. Son of a bitch. Son of a bitch, Charlotte, man. By the way, by the way, and it's so funny, saluting my guys, Top Dog, and punched. I went to go see Scissors show this past Friday,
Starting point is 00:18:29 and we was all in the suite. And Top was reminding me and telling my wife, remember when this motherfucker told us Kendrick wasn't a star. I didn't say Kendrick wasn't a star. Well, you said he didn't look like a star. He didn't. at the time. So all I'm simply saying is I'm equal opportunity across the board. It wasn't like I was just picking on people. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't just picking on one individual.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I had a cultural critique of everybody who was in the game at the time. I never critiqued Col because Cole was from Carolinas. So you protected him. Why is it like a motherfucker. What's the problem? Why? I just love how honest you are about your bullshit. It's so great. Oh, I can't be honest about my bullshit. What about it? It's so good. What about me? Pablo. Legend.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Fuck wrong shit. What's you talking about? I take my shirt off right now. So I'm staring around my goddamn name. Okay, Pedy Pablo shouted out North and South Carolina, all right? Shout out to Pee Degg goddamn Pablo. So that's really all it takes is that Drake
Starting point is 00:19:33 really never shouted out the Carolinas. If he shot out the Carolinas, you think you would have had his back? No, you know what's interesting? Debbie Dev put me on it. Two things. Debbie Dev put me on the Kendrick. I never forget it. This is 2007.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I don't even remember what project it was. It wasn't section 80. or something before that. She put me on the Kendrick. She put me on the Nipsey. She put me on the Glass of the Lombe. Strong-Letty Gang. So I literally did like all of those individuals
Starting point is 00:19:56 from the West Coast. But like most things, I don't know why I was wired like this back then. If I heard something get too much praise, I did not want to be involved with it. So even though I liked Kendrick, a lot, when people started like praising him as the next guy and everything else.
Starting point is 00:20:14 This is a form of attention. Like, yo, he... This is a form of attention. It does not look like a star. Yeah, I know. This is good that we're coming to this. Call it out. The mental wealth experts continue.
Starting point is 00:20:26 You're right. But this is good that you're having an honest moment. I think we all are guilty of this. Yeah, absolutely right. Sometimes our need for attention forces us to say things that maybe we don't exactly believe. It wasn't even just attending. It was just like, why? Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:38 It was like, I like him. But come on, guys. Everybody relaxed. But guess what? Kendrick really was everything, everybody. was saying he was. Yes. And even deep down, I knew that.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yes. But there was something in me at the time that would not allow me to say it. Now, I have no problem celebrating him. Yes. And I'd say he's the greatest of the generation, period. Sherman. Same thing with Drake.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I did this as well. Okay. With a guy named Donald Trump and everybody had an intervention on this fucking podcast with me because you guys thought that I was actually serious. You were serious? Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:21:19 Oh shit. Everybody was like, this guy's the worst. This guy's a Nazi. This guy's the worst human being on earth. I knew that, though. And there was a little part of me that was like... I always said that. I think you need to have that in your brain to be a community.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I'm not a contrarian, no. I'm just... It's really... Maybe I am, but I don't mean to be. The fact that you just said you're not a contrarian after saying you're a contrarian is the most contrarian thing that's ever been said. Quite the contrary.
Starting point is 00:21:44 You know what's so crazy. You know what's so crazy? Even with Drake, I'll never forget who put me on the drink. Who put you on? Sasha Delvalier. Wow. Sout to my good sister, Sasha Delvalier. This had to be 2010.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And when did it so far gone come out? No, yeah. I don't know. Huh? All right, maybe it was 2011. I remember her letting me here so far gone. Sasha liked So Far Gone so much that I refused to accept how good that music was.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I was like, he's all right. What is this? And you know the record I really loved off that album? What's that? Successful. And that other shit, brand new. Was it brand new?
Starting point is 00:22:47 I think it was brand new. But my point is, being that shit, She was so on it. And then I started hearing about this project so goddamn much. I just got that. I just got that. Who put that up there? That's good.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Is that you? That's good. But being that everybody liked that project so much, I had to find something. That you hated about it. Because if you notice, what does that say about you? Listen, when you notice, when you go back to my critique, I never did like the singing, though.
Starting point is 00:23:14 That's a fact. I never really, I never liked the singing. But I always loved when he rap. When you go back and you look at my early critique of Drake, It was never about music. It was about the color of his skin. That's it. You fucking racist.
Starting point is 00:23:24 You waffle-colored Negro. It was never about the music. The only thing I would ever say about the music is I don't like when he sings, I like when he raps. Why I try to be the next trade songs when you can be the next Jay-Z? That was it. Everything else was just straight insults. But now that you're a mature adult that has reflected on your life and your motivations and your emotions and your experiences. Now how do you feel?
Starting point is 00:23:52 How do I feel about who, Drake? Yeah. Well, it's different now, right? Because I've got a lot more information. And first of all, I'm going to always respect consistency and longevity. It's hard to be on top for a while, man. No, and it's been, you've never seen no run like this in hip-hop. The pressure.
Starting point is 00:24:08 So I'm all- That's why you see these guys use drugs. It's not like they were drug addicts before a lot of times. They're coping with the anxiety of success. Yes. You see this in Hollywood. You see this in music. You see it in anything.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I imagine you can see it in politics. They just have to numb themselves to the anxiety that's coming with the massive weight of this responsibility. Letting all these people down that, what is it called, an imposter syndrome that they might feel. Maybe they're not as good as they think that as people think they are and can they live up to those unrealistic expectations? And I think music. To manage that for 10 years is fucking unbelievable. Phenomenal. And I think music is therapeutic for him.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And that's why even when I see him doing this type of stuff. right? I think he's doing he's keeping it light on purpose for all of those reasons that you're talking about to. I think that over time, we're going to get that deep music from Drake. And then they'll hang on it. You know why it's impossible
Starting point is 00:25:04 not to? Because he's really an artist. Yeah. So it's impossible for an artist with his skill set to not do that eventually. I just hope, I just hope hey or any artist does it when they want to do it not when the critics are pushing them in that direction. He's
Starting point is 00:25:19 already done it. I know, I know. He was doing it early. I know, but he was the vulnerable emotion. That's why I was giving him shit. He was the vulnerable, emotional. I think he's the most emotionally tapped in. And he was doing all that early. It's just now, yo, maybe the industry hardened them a little bit. I guess, I guess what I'm saying is just like, create because what you, because of what you authentically want to put out, not because of what the critics are saying. And I think a lot of artists, you know, that, that want praise and validation often gravitate towards what the critics are saying about them and then try to satisfy that,
Starting point is 00:25:52 but you're never going to satisfy them. Ever. Never. The only way you could satisfy yourself is by creating authentically. And if that's what he's doing, then that's beautiful. I have no problem with...
Starting point is 00:26:05 Give us a fuck what anybody else says, if this is the album that you want to put out. The only time you should feel bad about an album not being well-received is if it's not the music that you want to put out, then you feel horrible. When you're just trying to appease the,
Starting point is 00:26:18 critics and they still hate it. You're like, this wasn't even my shit and they still don't fuck with me. Fuck that. And you know what's so amazing about this? I heard two songs off this album. How many did you hear, Shopes? I haven't listened to. You haven't even listened. Boy! Who can fuck with the idiot?
Starting point is 00:26:34 They heard two dogs. Two! I heard fucking the sexy red and scissors record and the goddamn record with Cole. I ain't heard shit. I heard the record with Cole. And I heard Bendo. Those are the only... I don't know what that is. Bendover. She could take this. I didn't get out.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Come on. Go on. Son. Son. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I didn't hear that.
Starting point is 00:26:58 How do I know it's not a song called Bindo? What? Son. Sorry. Son. Son. I haven't even heard the album. Come on, yo.
Starting point is 00:27:10 You're not taking nothing serious, Taylor. He's been emotional, right? You know. Thanks. What is different? I just put it up in a bun. You didn't add any? No.
Starting point is 00:27:24 It looks fantastic like that. You're so with a mic towards you. Why are you leaning over like that, yo? Um, okay. Him being emotional back then. Fantastic here. Can I ask my question?
Starting point is 00:27:35 Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, just say thank you. I said thank you. I said thank you. Really one that can't take confidence. They really can't. Unless they come with a cheesecake.
Starting point is 00:27:43 What do you mean? She lied? Wait, you got extensions in? I lied about what? He's saying that It's not all you're real. My hair was like this last week, though. So I'm assuming.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I'm just saying the style looks great on you. Thank you. You're very welcome. It's just so cool. Thank you. If he was emotional back then. Hate her? You asked if she added any.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's added hair. That's the deluxe version. Can I ask my question? Yeah. You got a question? If Jake was emotional back then, that was in deep for y'all? Like, he was talking about his emotion.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I just said that. Okay. So why are you saying? Why are people saying, I want him to be deeper if he's been deep before? Oh, no, they... He's moving away from him. Yeah, they got that 20 years.
Starting point is 00:28:24 They thought, if you was like that at 20, what are they expecting to you be at 35, 36 years old or whatever? Just people looking for someone to criticize. This is bullshit. But what Drake is really showing, y'all, that he just can make fucking music whenever he wants to make music.
Starting point is 00:28:38 If he wants to, you know, tap in. That's the other thing that's kind of crazy. Why are we mad that he's tapping in with younger artists? You know, not even that. Like, you still listen to old Drake. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:50 Old Drake comes on, you still singing, you have the concert, you're singing. So it's not like you don't like that old music. You still feel whatever emotions is in the old music. It's, it's a bullshit. The one critique I have is that he has such a talent for bars. Like, he spits, and it's like, I didn't get none of that. Like, he's barely rapping on this. Oh, I heard the 8 a.m. record.
Starting point is 00:29:11 That's probably the one. He rapping on that shit. Yeah, but I don't even think that's on the album. Yes, it is. Oh, I thought he just. through that. I don't know. I'm going to listen to it, though. No, but as I'm saying, there's not much rapping on the album. And that's the thing. It's like, I was looking forward to hearing him rap, and I didn't
Starting point is 00:29:29 get that. When has Drake rapped a lot on albums? No, but he'll give you both. This is, like, really, like, mainly an R&B album. Everything I heard was him rapping. And those are the three songs. You happen to hear that three songs with him rap. Yeah. But you only listen to half. Yeah, because it's, I can't even get through the rest. Oh, that's hate. My only critique is that He should have just gave sexy red that goddamn record. That shit's so hard. Which one? Hand on the knees.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Hands on the knees. That shit's so goddamn hard. She kills it. Adonis kills it. Let your pussy breathe. Let your pussy breathe. How do you do that? That should have just been sexy red and scissors record.
Starting point is 00:30:02 How do you pussy breathe? And by the way, let that be sexy red and scissors record. Written by Drake, whatever it is. That shit is great. Are we just moving past that concept of pussy breathing? You don't wear no panties. Oh, God. That's what it is, right, Taylor?
Starting point is 00:30:18 Huh? Let your pussy breathe. I identify as a person with a pussy. I do. I'm good, y'all. I'm done. I've done. I corrupted Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:30:33 You know what I mean? This is crazy. I don't know what happened. Charlotte went full frat boy. I don't know what's happened in the last fucking six months, but this guy is too much. He's too much. He just says he had. Identifies first with a pussy.
Starting point is 00:30:48 What color is it? Is it pink? Pink. You got that pink pussy? I'm out of town. I'm talking with my round. Question, though. If you're a drink, what do you do? Can I just ask one question? Yes. Is your pussy holding its breath now, then?
Starting point is 00:31:03 Yeah. You've heard it when to gas for air. Oh. Whoa, dude. What is that a quiff? A quiff. That's a quiff? Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:15 A chief quaint. Why are you called it? What do you call it? A quiff. A cheap quiff. I thought it's quiff. Why you call it quiff? Chief quiff.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Cueef. Quiff. Same thing. Just a pronunciation thing. If you had a drink, do you care about any of his criticism? No. I mean, okay, last question just about the pussy thing. Is, have you ever had a quiff before?
Starting point is 00:31:34 Okay. Is it, do you dapp up your man afterwards? Like, he did it? Or? What happens is this, like, especially if he's pounding it, it's just a lot of. Damn. Yeah. Taylor.
Starting point is 00:31:48 God damn, your mom will listen to this podcast. Yeah. What the fuck is wrong with you, man? You know, he can't say he's pounding. Christ, man. Your dad is alive. The fuck is wrong with you. Holy, holy.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Can you hear it? Imagine this shit? You can't pound a thing like that. What the fuck, Taylor? I don't somebody sending this shit to your parents. I'm not even going to lie. That shit was wild. We need to mark that.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Yeah. We need to mark that podcast. That is crazy. If he's pounding. What does that mean? Mark that, so I know exactly what the time Tammer Tell him tell him to tell him to listen. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:17 What is pounding it even mean, though? God damn. I'm just... What is pounding it? Because I need to know if I pounded it. Jesus Christ. Can you pound it from the bottom? Started from the bottom now.
Starting point is 00:32:29 We're queer. Wait. Can you pound it from the bottom? Can I be on my back pounding it? Usually this happens for me, like, from the back. Taylor! What? Thanksgiving is right around the corner.
Starting point is 00:32:46 How are you going to put this to your daddy? I want to finish your journey. So what I remember about it That doesn't sound like it was good That's all like you came from town town yesterday Yes it does sound like that Yes it does I haven't had sex in months
Starting point is 00:32:57 In months What would you tell you dad You should say never I've never had sex Me might have real tough Oh do you tell them that you get pounded How real is it talk? I don't think you get that
Starting point is 00:33:09 Don't tell me you have real talk Like dad I guess what I got pounded Monday I would never Why would you What if he asked you You don't say positions do you No
Starting point is 00:33:18 I heard you on this podcast talking about getting pounding. Yeah, pounding is crazy. Pounding? Don't you like the sound of that? No. I'm out of town, thugging with my rounds. My pussy pink, my booty hole brown. Why do y'all do this?
Starting point is 00:33:42 What's the gunshots all the time? Bang, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Why is that weird? If you're a drink, do you care? I care. just enough that people are talking about it. One thing that he did I thought was interesting, he posted the criticism that he was getting for Take Care.
Starting point is 00:34:02 So let me ask you all this question. You're a comedian, you get it. I'm a radio personality. Alex, you don't care what you put on your body because you clearly just subscribe to your own rules. My point, what I'm saying is, if you listen to the opinions of others, you won't be you. So if Drake would have listened to all of those people back then
Starting point is 00:34:21 telling him about take care, care. He wouldn't have gave you if you're reading this is too late and what else came out after that? Nothing was the same. You got to be the captain of the ship. You got to be the captain of the ship. You can't continue to listen to all of this criticism because what you're no better than the people, yes. What can they tell you
Starting point is 00:34:37 when you've been on top for 13 plus years? People ain't creating the music. They're riding the wave. What did you say before? You got to be the wave. You've got to be the wave, not a surfle. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yo, this is going to happen last week on idiots. The whole billboard charts is going to damn near be Drake.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I think they said 17 in the top 20 songs is going to be Drake. Bravo. And he's doing 450,000 in a week. So who are you supposed to listen to? And I'm not saying, like, I believe numbers don't tell the whole tale, but clearly, there's people fucking with the project. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:08 You know what I'm saying? Yes. So what are you, so what are you supposed to tell people? What am I supposed to tell myself? And those songs that y'all said was whack, I'm performing these shit in front of tens of thousands of people every night and they're singing it word for word. So who am I supposed to listen to? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I don't think people are saying it's whack. It's just they didn't get what they were expecting. What were you expecting? Like when you hear- This sounds like the same Drake. What I heard from three songs, this sounds like the same Drake that you've been getting. No.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Like, we didn't have none of those hard rap songs. Like, we wanted a few of those. The shit was cold, not a hard rap song? Out of like, he has like 25 songs in this album. It's a really long album with very little rap on it. But I think he does it is intentional because he usually, he'll come with honestly never mind and then he'll follow it up with some super
Starting point is 00:35:56 hard shit right after he did that with 21 though the 21 album is super hard shit yeah so it's like now I bet you the next album is going to be rap rap rap rap rap rap rap and then he pleases everybody he pleased the people who like him for R&B do you come back? Did he come back immediately?
Starting point is 00:36:14 I wouldn't if I was Drake I'll go produce sexy red album I'll go executive producing sexy ready project right now. What do you say? I don't think he could do it though. I feel like he likes to stay relevant.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Do what? Like take a hyaics. I don't know, man. But the criticism seems like it's bothering him, though. No, it doesn't. I've never seen him react this much to album criticism. I'm glad you bought that up, Alex. I don't think it's bothering him at all.
Starting point is 00:36:44 It's marketing. It's all the fuck it is. Oh, you think so? And he's been around for 13 years. Maybe he just feels like, man, fuck y'all. Y'all been shooting at me all these years. Why can't I say something back? That's the thing I hate about people, right?
Starting point is 00:36:57 We as people. Y'all talk shit. And then that person responds and you go, oh, you're sensitive. You're sensitive. You're sensitive. You're sensitive. What are we? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:05 What are we if we're constantly talking about him and critiquing him? Are we not sensitive? No, but if he puts a heart. You heard that you don't like his album. That's sensitive. And by the way, Greg been doing this. He started, he started it with Elliot Wilson. He was actually doing it a little bit before.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Oh, yeah. But he got it, Elliot. He got it. me. You got it, you know, that's what he's doing. I have no problem with him shooting back at the people who have something to say about him. There's more clicks and views and talk about the album when he responds to somebody on, on social media. Then there are when an article is written by pitchfork or something like that. He hasn't put out a fucking video. That's, like with that 1 8 a.m. and Charlotte video. He hasn't put out a video for the project, no nothing. You ain't seen
Starting point is 00:37:50 no posters, no nothing. You ain't even seen a digital thing that says in stores, October, wherever it came out. It was all just chatter. And if you're tapping into the young crowd, you go do what the young motherfuckers do. Young motherfuckers is always clapping back. Young motherfuckers always got something to say to somebody.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Young people are always in the comments, trolling, talking shit. He's playing the game, okay? That's what I assume. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, my ovio check cleared. How much is they pay? It's good?
Starting point is 00:38:27 What? My booty hole brown. My booty hole brown. Your underwear is not brown. Your underwear probably brown after that shit. Oh, everything's... No, I never got paid by OVO. I don't want that to be out there. But you should believe me when I'm lying. I do believe you're not. But I just don't know what's wrong with me, Shots.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I just hope a girl said that I pounded her once in my life. I hope that a girl described it like that. I think about stuff like this. What do you mean? I do. I think about stuff. He pounded it out. Now, you, you hope that when... Oh, my God, he pounded it. You hope that when somebody's like, you know, watching you on TV or hearing you, you know, like, like watching you on thing.
Starting point is 00:39:02 You hope somebody be like, yo. One time? You got some good dick, yo. Pounded me out. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? No one says pounded me out. You just said it. I said when I got pounded, not pounded me out.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Two different things. That's even crazy. You tell your girls you got pounded. You tell your girl that you got pounded. It's crazy. I feel like I just said pounded. If I'm talking to my girls on. I don't say that.
Starting point is 00:39:23 But you never had a guy pounded from the bottom, though? Because that, I do feel like I've done that. Pound it from the bottom now you quit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. A straight pounding from the bottom. I think you could straight pound from the bottom. Yeah. That's my best dick.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Why? That's my best dick. Because I got a perfect angle. My dick is perfect. You usually y'all like know what the fuck y'all do. Lay on my back. I grab by the eyes right here. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Let's go. Rock them. Let's go. Lock him. Let's go. Lock him. Rock them. No question.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Hop off, none of my stomach. Your dad is looking at this, Taylor. Rock him. I heard that doesn't. I heard that doesn't. You never had a guy do that. Wait, time on. I heard that doesn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Lift you off, bust on the belly. What doesn't do anything for you? You never. What are you talking about what doesn't do anything for you? When you're just rocking. But you're just rocking on the dick. Yes. When you rock on the dick, that's when you guys come.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Rocking on the dick. It does. Rocking on the dick, rocking on the dick. It does. Rocking on the dick, rocking on a dick. Rocking on a dick. Pound me. Wow
Starting point is 00:40:22 That sounds like a drinker That's what you wanted for drinking That's what you wanted That's what they wanted That's what they wanted That's the growth That's the growth That's the growth that you need it
Starting point is 00:40:37 Pound me And y'all, hey, stop lying about growth You don't like growth If y'all want If y'all want mature hip-hop Why y'all ain't fucking with Michael Killer Mike album Oh
Starting point is 00:40:48 You know what I'm saying Why you don't ain't I spoke with Kendrick, Mr. Morale, and the Big Step was the way y'all should. They did. Huh? No, they didn't. Yes, the, the, all the people you're hanging around.
Starting point is 00:40:56 You ain't gotten pounded once to the album. How you know? What kind of trauma are you going to? You got to pounded to Mr. Morales. No, we're having deep conversation and then, you know. There is one song you probably get, you can get it off to. Silent Hill joint with Kodak. What's the girl?
Starting point is 00:41:11 Which one with the girl? No. I don't think about the one with Kodak. The one with Kodak. The one with Kodak. Silent Hill? That's got a cool, smooth little beat. No, but you can't pound to that.
Starting point is 00:41:20 You got to do Metallica or so. Who wants to pound? Darkness. It's going to hit me. You guys are good. Just crickets. I don't know. Metallica, bro.
Starting point is 00:41:33 You got to listen to Metallica. I do listen to Metallica, man. He's dumb, bro. I do, bro. Metallica's like white bone thugs. I listen to Metallica. I fuck with Metallica. I fuck with Nirvana.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I fuck with Def Leopard. Name a... Wait, what? Name a Metallica song. For what when you know I'm lying? Why would you ask me to do that when you know I'm a goddamn lying? You know what I'm saying? Why couldn't you just let me tell the lie?
Starting point is 00:41:56 Then Metallica's little mean page, Metallica's Instagram page takes the clip. The old Sharmaid fuck the Metallica. And then all the Metallica fans say he's a fucking liar. Ask him to name one song. I fucked it up. That's my bad, yo. That is my bad.
Starting point is 00:42:09 You do know Nirvana though. I do know Nirvana. And you know Guns and Roses. I do know Gunther Roses. I fuck with Axelon Slash. Hell yeah. Yeah. I'd fuck with them.
Starting point is 00:42:19 It's another group I like, too. Fucking, um... Don't even try it. You're so... I know, I know. Come on. That's so bad. It's...
Starting point is 00:42:26 It's unbelievable how bad he is. It's unbelievable how bad he is. Dude, you are really a grandfather, dude. You are in full dad mode. That is unbelievable. You might as well do this shit. You might as well... Oh, hey.
Starting point is 00:42:45 There you go. Look, my tongue fell off. Hey, I got my thumb. That one slaps. Two of your love, that one. The thumb, the thumb to hide in the thumb? Yeah. Slaps.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Let's pay some bills. Got your nose? You got to do got your nose? You ever do that? My nose is so big, I could see it like that, so nobody could ever take it. They'd be like, nah, that shit's still there. I see it. I see it, pops.
Starting point is 00:43:15 You were lying. It takes shit. Taylor don't want us to pay no bills. But Taylor, I'm going to be honest with you. There's nothing in that meme shit this week that's interesting me. Really? You don't think that Steve Harvey means you're funny? I mean, they're hilarious, but they're just AI memes.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Yeah, I don't know if we could talk about it. They're just funny. Shout out to the goat, Steve Harvey. And by the way, it's all funny games until you see that picture. Oh, go back to that one picture. You see that picture? Not not the wiggle. That one, go back.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Go back. Go back. Go back. The one he's like drinking the drink. Now, look at that picture on the right where it's the bottle of Hennessy on the ground. Look at the position he's in. He's like in a plank position.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Hey, yo. His head is up. Hey, yo. His mouth is open. He's screaming. It's all funny games until they AI, somebody back there pounding them. It's all funny games until someone's putting that British currency in you.
Starting point is 00:44:05 That's what I'm telling you, man. That was good. What is British currency? The pound. Oh. I ain't going to explain it. I ain't going to explain them all, though. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I ain't going to explain them all. Yeah, this AI is too much, man. Why do people have this kind of time on their hand, though? And what kind of weed are y'all smoking that y'all sit around and say, hey, I'm going to put Steve Harvey running from monsters. I'm going to spend my Friday night making Steve Harvey remember. And by the way, I can tell once you make one, you probably laugh at so hard that you keep it going.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Yeah. Because I'm not going to lie. I thought this shit was real. I'm going to tell you why I thought they was real because Halloween is coming. I thought he was doing some type of Halloween promotion. Oh, you thought he actually was part of it. Yeah, I thought it was like some family few with Halloween promo. I really thought it was like some family food Halloween promo.
Starting point is 00:44:53 They might do some shit where they have like the werewolf family. I mean, this is hilarious. That is fucking funny as hell. I mean, Steve got to go as this for Halloween. Man, this shit is going to be scary in the future though because people are going to see these shit and really think these shit are real, yo. Yeah, like we're in the future. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:10 In the future, we're going to be like we're going to be gone and this shit is going to be left. And motherfuckers are really going to think this shit, yo. I was lean. Has anybody here tried lean before? Nobody? Let's pay some. Why are we getting all quiet? Because you hit me with a lean one earlier.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I don't know if this. No, no, no, no. He was drinking lean in the air. Yeah, I saw that. And I've heard of lean, and everybody seems to tell me it's really good, but I've never. You're from Philly and you never had lean, Taylor? No. Really?
Starting point is 00:45:43 Don't act like Philly wasn't big on. on lean pancakes and syrup i only heard about that because of little lane i don't know nobody that had fucking uh what was beanie siggo had a song what was the beatie single song called purple rain what was it called seago had a whole song about what's lean mixed with well i mean sprite codeine and permethyzee and licketyne it's just like it's like his brain doesn't understand it's his it's his brain i got to set him up with a few at the beginning of the pot so he could take it and then
Starting point is 00:46:19 he gets a smirk too like he's so excited he's so excited I've never seen anybody more excited when he thinks he's got it and he's yet to get it we really need to help him oh my God we really need to help him
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Starting point is 00:50:05 Church announcement show, see. Yo, United States of America, The Life Tour is coming back home. Okay? That's right. We just put shows up for pre-sale right now in Chicago, Boston and Washington, D.C. What you're doing? What kind of venues?
Starting point is 00:50:21 We're doing Chicago Theater. We're doing the MGM at Fenway in Boston, which is like this new crazy venue that's part of Fenway, the baseball park. So it's fucking crazy. And then we're doing a dark constitutional hall in Washington, D.C. Okay. So it's fucking sick. I'm excited. Those are up right now.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Pre-sale code is Andrew. Not sure which day this episode is coming out, but go immediately as soon as you see this and go get those tickets if you're in those cities. Very excited to get back to America. Europe is sold out, right? Yeah, Europe has been incredible, man. We added some shows even in Europe. So we're going there.
Starting point is 00:51:01 We'll probably be there by the time this episode comes out to Dublin, our first show. And then we added another show in Manchester and Amsterdam sold out. London sold out. Abu Dhabi sold out, man. So thank you guys so much. And then Australia after that, and then we come at home. So go to Theandriestown.com. The pre-sale code is Andrew.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Get those tickets before they're gone. I told you Cupby wants to go. She's in. Cupi, you're in. Hollar at me. We'll make it happen. She said, one of her friends is one of your biggest fans. She has to meet Andrew Shultz.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Respect her. She has great taste. phenomenal taste. I just want to tell everybody our Thrill of Possibility Summit is coming. The second annual Thrill of Possibility Summit. That's what a Black Effect. IHart Radio, we fly 50 HBCU students to Nashville, Tennessee, and we have a weekend of panels and mixers for them and, you know, the people on the panels are people who went to HBCUs who have
Starting point is 00:51:49 gone on in the world to achieve great things. What do you say, Taylor? Yeah, and mentorship. So it's really just bringing HBCU students together and, you know, creating like a networking pool for them so they can find mentors and other people to network with from other HBCUs. We did it last year in Nashville. Doing it again this year in Nashville. That's in November. So salute to everybody who's registered. We can only pick 50 students, you know what I mean, because it's not cheap to fly 50 people out and put them in hotel rooms and stuff like that. So 50 is what we can do. So we'll be doing that 50. And we'll see you soon. And I want to tell everybody, download or go listen, I'm sorry, go listen to Alicia Renee's Unleash for Love, which is available on Audible right now. It's the latest
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Starting point is 00:53:14 if I'm remembering that correctly. Oh, far. Yeah, so make sure you go check that out. It's in store of November 7, but you can pre-order that now. Now let's get back to the show. Man, school me on this, man. Talk to me. What is going on in Israel?
Starting point is 00:53:32 because I see everybody trying to politicize this and I see people taking sides. All I see is people getting killed. I see children getting killed. I see bodies, you know, being carried to the street. What is there to do but awful prayers? Here's the thing. My God.
Starting point is 00:53:50 We need somebody way smarter than me, way smarter than anybody in this room to explain this entire situation. Damn, Chris. Chris is sitting there. Sorry, man. Chris is really smart. Maybe he knows everything that's going on.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Maybe he doesn't. I don't know. Do you feel confident to talk about it? Talk to us, Chris. Brave man, my boy. Well, Chris is also Jewish. What does that mean? He knows what's going on.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I actually, Chris is the first person I hit. I sent Chris the article and I'm like, what are the global ramifications of this? Well, the global ramifications are different. I think that you hit it on the head right here is there's a weird thing that's happening right now and it's very confusing where there seems to be. be a celebration of people that have been massacred, murdered, children that have been murdered
Starting point is 00:54:44 women. Why? I mean, like, innocent individuals. Whenever innocent people are killed, this is nothing to celebrate, nothing to be happy about. Yeah, it's incredibly tragic and sad. Whether that's on the Israeli side or the Palestinian side, as the Lord knows it has happened on both sides and it's disgusting in both ways. but I don't understand what's going on
Starting point is 00:55:05 where people feel like this is something that they should celebrate. This is something we should be disgusted by as human beings. You never want to see innocent life taking, especially children. And then there's this weird justification that's being used,
Starting point is 00:55:16 which is the occupation of Palestine, obviously, which is a horrendous, horrible thing. But killing a seven-year-old, like a seven-year-old has nothing to do with that occupation. A seven-year-old doesn't even know what the fuck occupation is. You have people's lives
Starting point is 00:55:33 who are being taken from them that have no fucking clue what this occupation is. So you cannot celebrate that. You cannot put that responsibility on this. It's like the seven-year-old is the casualty of a war
Starting point is 00:55:43 that's been going on way longer than he's been alive. And there's going to be more casualties on the other side, way more on the other side, which is fucking tragic and disgusting and horrible. And any time these innocent people
Starting point is 00:55:53 on both sides are killed, it is disgusting. So there's this weird celebration around this that is incredibly uncomfortable for me. I think that we should all be saddened by this. When a fucking Ukrainian, an innocent Ukrainian dies, we should be sad. When an innocent Russian dies, we should be sad. When an Iraqi dies because we went in there from fucking weapons of mass destruction, we should be
Starting point is 00:56:12 embarrassed, we should be sad, we should be hard. There are innocent children here being killed, and you see it every single day. You go on social media, and for some reason there's people... Could you explain it to... Could you explain it to those people, basically like, would you celebrate if other people in another country were celebrating 9-11. Exactly. If you was just watching the news and you saw these planes running to the towers and you saw all
Starting point is 00:56:38 these innocent people running and you know trying to, you know, go for cover and you saw people jumping out of buildings dying, how do you not have no empathy for that? And then I can imagine what Jewish people are going through right now where they're just like, we're sitting there like, why are people happy that this happens? I don't get it. Now
Starting point is 00:56:54 I also, I understand what's going on the Palestinian side where they're like, oh, now you talk about it. You know, when our kids have been killed, when our kids have died and our innocent, nobody talks about it. Now you're talking about it. So I understand their frustration with that. I understand their frustration for the occupation. I understand their frustration for the situation that is Gaza and the West Bank right now.
Starting point is 00:57:15 It's fucking heartbreaking. I thought they was at war for 75 years. I thought they've been at war. Yes, yes. So, so Chris, this is what I need you to explain to me. Oh, but just real quick. Just real quick. So I also think that there is this side.
Starting point is 00:57:27 There's also, okay, while there's, while there's, why, there are people that are celebrating what just happens, right, on one side. There are also people that are completely ignoring the circumstances that have led to something like this, right? It doesn't justify it at all. There's no justification for killing innocent. There's no justification for murdering children. Never, never, none. Case closed. None. Okay. That being said, to ignore the situations that cause these types of things to pop up is also willfully ignorant. You mean they ignore the last 75 years. No, nobody's ignoring it, but they're pretending like this is an isolated incident. Like, how the hell could this happen? And it's like, it should never happen. There's no justification,
Starting point is 00:58:07 right? Ever, there's none for what happened. But to ignore the course of events that led to this is also unfair. So I'm like so confused by the reaction to this. But I imagine there's just so much anger and vitriol on both sides because of what they've both experienced, the members of their family that they both lost. It's fucking painful and heartbreaking. But you would hope that you could go on fucking Instagram and not see celebrations of kids that have been, of situations that have murdered kids for both sides. I don't want to see either side celebrating. I think that's bare minimum as humans.
Starting point is 00:58:39 We could just not do that today. That's what's confusing to me because if this has been going on for 75 years and then this happens and then I saw Israel declare war. I'm like, well, I thought they was already at war. Yeah, but I guess maybe, I don't know. Now, you want to fill us in? Well, I mean, I would start by saying that I agree with Andrew with what you just said. I mean, I think one of the most kind of dangerous things about this moment is I'm seeing a lot of people basically saying you have to pick a side.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Why? There is no middle. And I'm here to tell you I'm in the middle, right? Like, it's very dangerous to say that like you're either on this side of it or that side of it. But middle is weird, right? Well, okay, maybe middle's the wrong word. Yeah, because I think middle is where it seems like you're okay what Hamas just did. No, of course not.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I mean, what Hamas just did is horrendous crime against humanity cannot do it. It's all I know is I'm watching the TV on mute. And all I see is bloodshed and murder. I don't know who's who. Never justified. And I'm looking at it. I'm like, oh, I'm like, this is fucked up. Never just.
Starting point is 00:59:43 And then somebody says, this is happening in Israel. That's fucked up. This is happening in Palestine. That's fucked up. And I think the danger is this brings out the most. tribal instincts and people. Absolutely. And I'm guilty of that.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Look, I've, you know, I've always considered what's happening to the Palestinian people to be a form of occupation or even apartheid in most of Jews. It is. It's not in a form. It is. Yeah, right? Like, I've always felt that way. And even when...
Starting point is 01:00:10 Which is tragic. Which is tragic. And it makes me very uncomfortable to be associated with that is Jew. I mean, one of the reasons I've never gone to Israel is I feel uncomfortable about the situation. And to keep in mind, it is, there are a lot of Jews that share your sentiments about that. in Israel. Sure.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Oh, Israel was a fractured society up until this weekend. I think that's what... Why? Because basically, I mean, not to get too into the specifics, but the current government, Nadeanu's government, is very right-wing, has really doubled down on the far right, what I'll call extremists in the Israeli population.
Starting point is 01:00:44 And the left, there's a fight over the judiciary, but it's really more like the struggle of the left versus the right. And there's... And there's... And there's... Jews are like, we don't want... want that. We don't want that. I mean, you know, we don't want this. I mean, we were talking about it
Starting point is 01:00:58 within the context of Drake earlier, but like, I feel that contrarian impulse as an American Jew because I feel that if every June America just kind of says we support Israel a thousand percent, that's dangerous because the people running Israel are humans. They make mistakes and they institute bad policies. And there has to be a voice within the Jewish community. Yeah. That's pushing back at times against it. And I think that's, healthy for Jews. I don't think that's a self-hating Jew or anti-Semitic. I think that's part of a natural balance of things. No, I think that you can be critical of your governments. People are not their governments. I'm critical as so much shit that the American government is doing right now.
Starting point is 01:01:36 That's the beauty of America. Exactly. And it had been the beauty of Israel. So I think the tricky thing, obviously, when you're talking about Israel specifically is they're like, do you support Israel? The knee-jerk reaction, obviously for Jewish people is, do I support a Jewish homeland? they go, well, yes, but do you support Israel can also come with every foreign policy that's attached to it? Do I support America? Do you know someone who loves America more than me? Yeah, but you may not agree with America's current administration.
Starting point is 01:02:02 You might not agree with America's current policies. By supporting America, I'm holding it accountable. You don't support America if you're not holding it accountable. If America is falling or failing the values that it's supposed to uphold, then you're not supporting America. You're supporting this bastardized version of itself. I don't support that. I support the dope shit about America.
Starting point is 01:02:22 And American democracy. Absolutely. They gave us a constitution and said, this is what it is. And it better work for everybody. That's right. And if it doesn't, I'm vexed. That's right. So I can see that there is somebody that believes that there is a Jewish homeland,
Starting point is 01:02:33 believes in the state, but it's also critical of what is going on right now in Gaza, what has been going on in the West Bank. Sure. And all of my friends that are Jewish or Israeli have that sentiment. What happens is once war, once there's a bomb drop, once there's a family members that are murdered, It's like, it's tribal, like you said. It's the second we're attacked, like, let's say me and Alex on the street, second somebody punches one of it.
Starting point is 01:02:58 It's not like, well, what led to this? It's, oh, it's go time. That's right, though. I think human nature, that's your natural human reaction. That's right. Who wouldn't be like that? I mean, look, I can walk you through my reaction on Saturday. Talk about.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I woke up. Unprecedented, you know, missile strikes from Gaza. In my mind, I'm like, yeah, well, this is what is going to happen when you have people locked into a situation like this. This is inevitable. And that's my knee-jerk reaction, right? Then I start seeing the footage, the images of the AK-47s in the mouths of someone who looks like my grandmother. The kids, my cousins in Israel with his family, right?
Starting point is 01:03:39 The family slaughtered that look exactly like my cousins. You can go on and on. I saw them parading this woman's body. You know, young girls that look like my niece is. and nephews, you know, clearly being abused and, you know, I'm ready to join the fucking IDF at that moment. Like, I'm like, let's go. And it's a very dangerous moment because of that.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Because even someone like myself who, who's always been, you know, way to the far of one extreme on that now feels like I got to, I got to defend, I got to fight. And you don't. Because it's life or death. And in life or death, you can't be rational. You have to do it to survive. So you, there's no matter who's right or who's wrong when you're trying to survive. It's life or death.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Straight up. It don't matter who started what, how it started. When you're trying to survive in that moment, let's go. Exactly. But then the rational part of me has to step back and say, this is a life or death moment. How do we get to this life or death moment? But that's a privilege of being in New York.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Sure. But that's also a choice. It's not just a privilege. It's a choice. I wanted to go live on a kibbutz in Israel after I graduated college, and I decided not to because of this reason. Yeah. I was like, I don't want to get caught up in this shit.
Starting point is 01:04:49 maybe that's a privilege to live in America and, you know. And to what you were saying also about like the emotion that goes through in these moments where you're not able to add context to the situation, it just further drives the rift, right? Right. So it's like now there can't even be a situation where people coming to the table and there's this negotiation, there's this conversation. I mean, to be fair, there's no negotiating with Hamas.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Hamas has one clear goal. They're like, no, no, no. So it's like, you. I feel bad for the people because they are being manipulated by forces. The far right in Israel manipulates the Israeli people, Hamas, which I guess you could call far right in Palestine and Gaza and what have you like. You know, I can't. And it's easy for Hamas to manipulate the people within Gaza because of the dire circumstances that they're living in. The more difficult your circumstances, the easier it is to motivate you for something better.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Right? I mean, like, I don't see how as a human being you can't put yourself in those shoes and be like, that's fucked up. Yeah, man, this is just so tragic. It's just so tragic. I think the moral of the story, well, I don't know if there's a moral to the story, but from an American perspective, just from a people's perspective, I'm really talking about social media right now. You don't have to have an opinion on this. You don't have to plant a flag. You got to take that down.
Starting point is 01:06:17 It's okay just to say it's tragic and... Or you feel conflicted and feel sad. I mean, that's... I think any normal person has multiple opinions about it. Sure. I think a normal person would be like, listen, it's horrendous what the Palestinians have gone through and have to go through.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Right. That's horrendous. And then it is downright, disgusting and awful to murder innocent fucking children on both sides no matter what. That fucking headline tailors is put up. I'm like, they're showing that shit? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:47 That shit said Hamas threatens to kill for every bomb that's dropped. Yeah, kill somebody for every bomb that's dropping. The girl's screaming. Oh, my fucking God. This is what has me really. You can feel upset. This is the most concerning part. Israel in particular doesn't play when it comes to hostages or, you know, they'll go to the mat even to get the bodies of a soldier who's gotten killed.
Starting point is 01:07:12 The idea that there are 150 Israeli citizens. in Gaza right now and that, you know, my concern is not only what happens to these people, but is it broadcast essentially because they've taped a lot of this stuff. Well, it already is, right? Those images, outside of the human cost, those images, it's going to do a lot of damage to a very delicate situation. And that's when I start worrying on a global scale. Like, what could this turn into?
Starting point is 01:07:45 You think people will start doing stuff in America? I'm concerned about that. You think Palestinians here will start trying to do stuff to Jewish people, Jewish people here, saw stuff. I'm concerned about that. I mean, they've already been fighting, man. Like, you've seen it. I think it was Toronto.
Starting point is 01:07:56 You saw it in Times Square. Israeli tourists were killed in Egypt. Nobody covered it because it's lost in this. But Egyptian police officer shot up a bus of Israeli tourists the other day. What? No, I don't need. Was it a bus or they were on a private tour guide, and they shot the tour guide and both of the tourists?
Starting point is 01:08:14 I thought they were in the bus. but the pictures made it, I don't know, but suffice to say they killed a bunch of Israeli tourists. This has the potential to go to a lot of really dangerous. And once it starts happening in those other places, man, people are put the lid on it. It's very complicated. You never know where the truth is. You're kind of always in the dark on this. And you're not going to find the truth through war. No.
Starting point is 01:08:36 You didn't miss the war. Oh, no. Because right now it's just all about survival. Oh, no. You know what I mean? All right, man. Let's pay some bills, Taylor. Let's pay some bills and reset.
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Starting point is 01:11:08 yo, yo, yo, yo, this shit works. I forgot what part it was. That shit was funny as fuck. Chris Rock. To direct Martin Luther King biopic, Steven Spielberg, to produce.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Now, Universal Pictures is gearing up to tell a definitive cinematic biopic about the life of Martin Luther King, Jr. The studio has optioned the rights to adapt Jonathan Eaggs, critically acclaimed biography, King Alife. Chris Rock is in final talk to direct and produce, and Steven Spielberg will be executive producer. The film will be produced by Amblin Partners with Chris D.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Maca So Krieger serving his producer along with Chris Rock. King of Life has been a big bestseller and has been nominated for the National Book Award. It had been hailed at the definitive biography of the civil rights icon Dr. King for its use of previously untapped sources that include newly declassified FBI information. Let me go on record and saying
Starting point is 01:12:02 this is going to be the best Martin Luther King Jr. biopic of all time. Wow. The reason I think it's going to be the best Martin Luther King biopic of all time is because Steven Spielberg does amazing work we notice Chris Rock
Starting point is 01:12:18 I know you all look at Chris Rock as a comedian Chris Rock is one of the smartest people you ever want to meet in your life and Chris Rock I believe is going to tell the story of Martin Luther King Jr. After the I Have a Dream speech
Starting point is 01:12:34 the more radical version of Martin Luther King Jr. You know what I'm talking about, right Chris? Right. The more, just Chris Moreau talking, not Chris Rock, but the more radical version of Martin Luther King Jr.
Starting point is 01:12:46 The anti-Vietnam War, the unite the people together. The one who people, the one who America didn't like, you know, I mean, they never really liked them, but the one America, the one that was so polarizing.
Starting point is 01:12:57 America didn't like him because they thought he was, you know, you know, what was it, Chris? I feel like I have integrated my people into a burning house. That part too, but... That part of the... I mean, I think it became...
Starting point is 01:13:09 They thought he'd be... Yeah, the reason it became dangerous is because it didn't just become about racial rights. It became about the economy and uniting poor people across racial lines and protesting the war in Vietnam. Now, the real question is who will play Dr. King. There's someone you know who has stated on record many, many times that his single most burning passion in life is to have this role. Who is it? Tyrese Gibson. He's advocated for playing this.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I can guarantee that Chris Rock, nor Steven Spielberg, are going to cast Tyrese Gibson to play Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. I just think Chris did that to bring back to humor because of what we just was talking about. I mean, I've had this discussion with him personal. It's not happening. All right. I have a dream. No, you don't. I have a dream today.
Starting point is 01:14:04 No, you don't. No, you don't. The Tyrese. No, you don't. A Fast and a Furious thing. No, you don't. and other movies will play
Starting point is 01:14:13 the great Martin Luther King No he won't. One day. You know, I don't want to ask Chris? I think Baby Boy could do it. Come on.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I think maybe could. I mean, who's going to do it? I don't know who's going to do it, but it won't be Chris Rock. I mean, Tyrese Gibson. Shannon Tatum.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Shut. Let me ask you a question. Who would be the best white guy to play Martin Luther King Jr? Travis Kelsey. The Snow Crabb King. The Snow Crab Lake King, baby. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:39 King, Snow Crab Leg, Travis Kelsey, bro. They thought we called it out. Did y'all get messaged when he hurt his ankle? Yes. They thought we called it out. We called a concussion, though. Yeah, we called.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I thought we said concussion, though. We said he'd get hurt. Now, fuck it. We said he was going to get hurt. Yo, we called it. We called it. Yo, did you hear the conspiracy about Taylor Swift? This is fire.
Starting point is 01:14:59 What's the conspiracy? So Taylor Swift is an environmentalist. She really cares about the environment, and it's one of her causes. She also has a private jet that she flies around. Obviously, it's more convenient for somebody. who's famous as her to fly private. She can't exactly
Starting point is 01:15:12 just shut down an airport. Absolutely. But she is into the environment while she flies private and private jet. And that is used as a criticism because private jets are going to pollute the environment
Starting point is 01:15:23 way more than any straw or plastic does, right? So people are saying that she went to this football game to distract people from her private jet usage. Yeah, but she probably flew a private jet to get there. Wait for it. When you Google,
Starting point is 01:15:40 Two weeks ago when you Googled Taylor Swift Jet, what do you think came up? Hilarious. Now when you Google Taylor Swift Jet, her at the New York Jets game is what comes up. Now, you can't just go to that game because then people know what she's trying to do, so that she goes to the game before and this game. Go. Taylor's so crazy. What she do?
Starting point is 01:16:04 It shouldn't be private yet. Oh, my God. So she's going to go to a 4-49ers game to disguise. mining interest. Exactly. Nobody's going to actually type private. No, it's just Taylor Swift Jet. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Done. Wow. No, no. The conspiracy theory is what come up. We on it. Oh, see, another one, Taylor Swift conspiracy theory. Goals viral. Same thing.
Starting point is 01:16:29 That's what I'm talking about. Did Taylor Swift vulture? Did Taylor Swift attend the New York Jets came to the track from her private? See? That shit don't work. We on that ass, Taylor. You know what I'm saying? That shit don't.
Starting point is 01:16:40 work. Y'all supposed to be swift these, bro? I shouldn't even say that. Yeah. You're right. God damn it. I don't understand why y'all mad at Taylor and Swift riding the private jet, man. You wanted to get where she's going swiftly, don't you?
Starting point is 01:16:49 Hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Listen, Alex, did you see your girl did a open letter to black women? Who? Who? My girl, too.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Oh, yeah. Kail and Nicole. What's she said? Get it at my studio. Get the fuck out of here. Pull it up, man. That was WTF, wasn't it? She did an open letter to black women and said, can we hear it?
Starting point is 01:17:19 Can we play some of this? Can we play some of this? Can we play some of this? It's beautiful. She misses that white chocolate. But what happened? You think he dictatized her? Let's hear it.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Is that the how you said? Digmatized? Oh, dickensit. Hey guys. Kayla here. It's always been really important for me to use my platform. not to create division, but to elevate and unite women, black women specifically.
Starting point is 01:17:46 So I prepared a letter and would like to share it with you today. Dear black girl, they may call you a traitor for falling in love. You'll hope the ones closest will protect you, but you will quickly find out that people don't protect what they don't value. They'll say you're too much, too provocative, too boisterous, too outspoken, and in the same breath tell you that you're not enough, not successful enough, not wholesome enough,
Starting point is 01:18:14 maybe not even intelligent enough. They'll say you deserve the backlash and embarrassment because of your blackness, you should have known better. They'll even try to tie your value to your net worth, but black girl, please remember your value lies elsewhere. Your value is deep within your heart, the way you love, the way you give, Your value is in your resilience, your willingness to forgive.
Starting point is 01:18:42 The way you protect what means most to you, even if it hurts you along the way, and the way you stand up for what means most to you, even though they may not ever do the same. But black girl, respectfully, let me stop you there, because you don't have to participate in this tumultuous, often one-sided journey. Preserve your heart, even when they try to quantify your character and test your boundaries. You do not have to engage.
Starting point is 01:19:10 You do not have to respond because there is power and your silence. And you can use that same power to silence the noise and the self-doubt. Silence the voices within that want you to give in to this demoralizing and antiquated narrative. Tap into that power.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Because I know, girl, the rage of the world is loud. But black girl, your God is louder and your tribe is stronger. your blood runs deeper and is filled with strength and when you finally find the strength to speak your truth, it is your voice that will help you. Because Black girl, let me tell you, you're not in this alone.
Starting point is 01:19:48 And even though sometimes I too ask, why me? I'm reminded that this... All of that for the Kingsnow Crab Lake? Imagine coming home from a game. You got three concussions. Your knee hurts, your ankle hurts. That was beautiful.
Starting point is 01:20:03 But just imagine that. It's all of that for Travis Kelly. Yeah. Because to me, that's not, that's not something for all black women. Like, she's, she should talk to, like, black women who are in interracial relationship. They direct those questions of Taylor. She started it off by saying that. She literally, she literally starts it off by saying all the criticisms. Poor Travis, yo. Poor Travis. Being a black person. Poor Travis. We don't feel. A black woman who dated a white man. We don't feel bad for Travis. No. I don't, like, I don't understand how is this, how was this directed towards all black women? Okay. Can we just talk about Travis for one? How was this directed towards all black women? I understand she started off. This is all about the King Snow Craveleg.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Oh. Yes, it is. You can relate to other stuff. Sure, you can. But this is because of the backlash she's receiving because she used to be Travis Kelsey's ex. I'm sorry. So what, though? Because of the backlash, so she can't respond?
Starting point is 01:20:57 We got two dogs. Over to King Snow Crab Lake? She was getting attacked by your Smithy. Who? Yep. Kayla. She was the one that was talking shit first. How?
Starting point is 01:21:09 She said, oh, he cheated on me. Da-da-da-da-da. He's just trying to not his poetry. When did she ever speak out about him? She did. She immediately spoke out. When? I didn't see that.
Starting point is 01:21:19 She absolutely did. Oh, stop. She absolutely did. I didn't see that. I didn't see that. You're talking about another black girl he dated, not her. No, she didn't. Kayla Nicole.
Starting point is 01:21:27 What are you talking about? She is beautiful. She is beautiful. Is it? Is it? said that Travis Kelsey is a cheater. No, she didn't. He did.
Starting point is 01:21:33 He did. Now, I want, I bet every bit of money in your pocket. Bet everything. Google Kail and Nicole speaks out against Travis Kelsey. Bet. We'll talk to us about Taylor Swift. Come on, yeah. We switch.
Starting point is 01:21:45 It was probably yaw friend that spoke out. Nah, no, no, chill out. Google Kail and Nicole. How many of these poems you think Travis had to listen to you? You are. Awesome. What? Pull it up on the screen so we can see it.
Starting point is 01:22:01 It's about what she just did. We just why. No. That's a lie. That's a lie. No, you looking up the new, new. Google? We got to look up the old.
Starting point is 01:22:12 No. Kail and Nicole says Travis Kelsey cheater. Pull that up. Kail and Nicole says Travis Kelsey is a cheater. You're not even spelling right now. She even, me and Taylor talked about this. Wayna! Says Travis Kelsey is a cheater.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Yes. and a narcissist, that too. That wasn't her. Yes, it was. Go to the headlines. It was never cheat. It was cheap. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Travis Kelsey accused of cheating for a month. Oh, wow. Click on it. Yeah, by ex-coo. No. Oh, my God. Yop. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Yop. He's got. Travis Kelsey accused of cheating for a month by ex-girlfriend and dating show winner. Yeah, dating show winner. She's not off. She's not on them. Kayla Nicole!
Starting point is 01:23:03 His relationship with fashion influencer and journalist, Kayla Nicole. But she wasn't on the show. Am I on drugs? Hold on one second. Travis Kelsey was accused of cheating in 2017 by ex-girlfriend Maya Bamberg. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Right, what are you talking about? You know, y'all's not crazy. I be trying to, hold on, hold on, hold on. Get mad. You get mad. You don't know what the fucking. No, hold on. Look how embarrassed he is right now.
Starting point is 01:23:31 No, no, no, let me tell y'all something. Let's talk about. Let me tell you something. No, don't try to do this whole thing. Just say you're wrong. Are you going to listen? Are you going to listen? No, no, no, I want a apology first.
Starting point is 01:23:41 A white man is speaking. A white man is speaking. A white man is speaking. You know the problem? I need to be listened to. No, show me, do not do that. Don't try to turn it because you got caught lying. You know the problem?
Starting point is 01:23:54 What? You know the problem? This is the problem. This is the problem. You all believe in me when I tell y'all that I'll be lying. We never believe you. You're not believe you. We never believe you.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Every time. I knew it wasn't telling you. Every single time. I knew it was telling you. The whole time I knew what you all. I wanted to make sure y'all knew what y'all. You know. Excuse me, listeners, if you're running back,
Starting point is 01:24:16 y'all can hear me and I was both saying that. They don't hear that. I'll listen to don't hear that. I'll listen to definitely hear that. Our listeners heard me saying. Charlie, where's our apology? Just apologize. A black girl that spoke talking about how we get,
Starting point is 01:24:28 fucking unvalued and everything else. And you just can't apologize. I would never apologize for something as trivial. We don't uplift black women anymore in this podcast. That's crazy. Listen, I'm all about uplifting black women. But Dr. Uba Johnson needed to proofread that fucking open letter. Okay?
Starting point is 01:24:45 All right. Dr. Umar Johnson needed to proof read that open letter and tell Kail and Nicole, no, make this about all black women. Right, though? This is about black women. This is for colored girls who like to date white. men. Y'all. Wow. Wow. That's crazy. It's a truth. I understand where it's sparked from, but at the same time, that's what I said. You can take that. That's so true. You wouldn't know,
Starting point is 01:25:10 you never dated a white guy. You never dated a white guy. This is not about you. By the way, black women, I want to say this to black women. You can be all that without dating the king's snow crab leg. All of that stuff, Kail and Nicole was talking about, that is you. But you don't have to date a king snow crab leg and get attacked by Swifties to realize that about yourself. I want to be... Don't do that. That's not what you realize by herself and everything.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Whoa. So why she didn't do an open letter like that before? She didn't have to do open letter, but they don't... Well, you're about to say she has? No, I was going to say that she has this book about her blackness, though. I'm sure she has, and I'm sure she has. You never been with a white guy.
Starting point is 01:25:43 You don't know what we do. You don't have to write poetry after this. You're so... That's the only way you can handle all the emotions. What's y'all do in exactly? What do you mean? Exactly. I feel like y'all are gaslighting us.
Starting point is 01:25:56 It's a shame, right? Y'all never dated a white girl. I still think Kailin Nicole said that. She did. No, she did it. Google it again. Why would you want to be wrong? Google it one more time.
Starting point is 01:26:10 It was not her. Y'all, y'all need to Google it one more time. Oh, my gosh. Then you just, we tell me, time about it, they just tell us, and this is your fault because you all wanted to believe what I was saying, why can't we dig a little more? No, so you can just point our fingers and give me,
Starting point is 01:26:24 like, see, stop listening to us. Why don't you all will be double right? Why can't you think a little more? You still didn't even, no, first of all, first of all, you didn't even admit that you were wrong. Why do I have to admit that argument? I got to start using that argument. Why not? That's a fire argument.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Why do I have to admit I was wrong? When the cameras are rolling, the microphones are wrong. Why do I got to admit I'm wrong? The cameras are rolling. The cameras are wrong. I think you should apologize to a black woman in this room. You should apologize. You should apologize.
Starting point is 01:26:54 You were yelling at me. You were yelling at me. You were yelling at me. You were yelling at me. I was yelling at you and Alex. Y'all need to apologize. I apologize. You know what?
Starting point is 01:27:02 For yelling at Taylor. Yo, shit up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alex, I want you. Can you accept my apology for yelling at Taylor? Thank you, Alex. There we go. That's a hater.
Starting point is 01:27:12 I'm not to replay this. Can you play Kail? No, for her Google Kail in the calls. No. Because she's in a fucking setting. I think she did. No, she didn't. Just one more time.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Why do you not want to believe a black woman? Yo, I'm not for this. What happened to believe black women? I'm not for this. I believe her. I believe every word she's saying. I believe she said it. But I'm not, I don't like that the root of this is the King Snow Crabling.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Me neither. That's great. Think about it, though. Asked an idiot. Think about it. I didn't know this was happening either. Cale and Nicole doesn't deserve hate. But I do vividly remember how she made shady comments towards Sierra and Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Ooh. Oh, wow. When? I'm married today. Oh, wow. When? I don't know. I'm just reading Twitter.
Starting point is 01:27:54 This is, this is great. Throw up one more. No, we're done. Because Taylor thought she had a whole 100% majority. No, they didn't know. This is Twitter, though. I'm just looking at her. The whole Civil War going on social media about this.
Starting point is 01:28:08 I didn't either, by the way. I just got sent that one tweet earlier. I hate you. I just got sent that one tweet. Wallow pens a letter to hip-hop community. Wallo is absolutely right. Slupe my guy, Wallow. Okay, salute to Wallo.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Philadelphia's finest, man. Love that brother. One of the best motherfuckers' representations in the culture we got. Love that man. Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor. Okay. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Have you spitting girls' mouth before? Have I spitting a girl's mouth? Yeah. Yeah. Ew. What? That's disgusting, though. I did that shit after him.
Starting point is 01:28:43 You did like Kevin Gates? Say again? You did like Kevin Gates? Hell, yeah. That's disgusting. I have to pee so bad. Let's do two Asking idiots. I got a pee too.
Starting point is 01:28:51 You want to pee? No, no. Let's let's do it because I got to. focused Polack. Oh, Jesus. Wow. I don't think you can even say that. That's like a racial term for Polish people.
Starting point is 01:29:00 It is? Really? Yeah. I didn't know that. Is self-care just narcissism rebranded? No. No. That's the stupidest shit I ever heard in my life, focus.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Self-care is self-care. Narcissism is narcissism. Everybody deserves some self-care. Absolutely. Take care of your motherfucking self. Go get your motherfucking stuff. you know, go get you a pedicule, go get you a manicure, go get you a massage. You know, go do some meditation, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:29:28 I mean, narcissists definitely take advantage of self-care for sure, but it's not narcissism rebrand. It is absolutely not narcissism rebranded. Scroll up, because Andrew's dick is bulging. Bulging right now. It's going crazy. My dick's going crazy right now. Mielken 9 says, what motivates you to continue success
Starting point is 01:29:47 after accomplishing big goals? I think it's about the art I think if it's just about the goals meaning like making money or these types of things then I think you lose focus on the art but if you focus on the art wanting to get better at and improve it and challenge yourself
Starting point is 01:30:05 then that's the ultimate goal so focusing on the art getting better yeah me too you know what I mean because you know once you accomplish something you know the accomplishment is one aspect of it the maintaining of it is another. And that's why, you know, we have these conversations about the drakes and the LeBrons and whoever,
Starting point is 01:30:25 or even the Michael Jordan and the JZs, what we respect about these guys more than anything is the longevity and the consistent domination. You know what I mean? And even if, you know, in their later years, you know, they're not putting up the points that they used to. You still can't take away who they are, what they did, and they're still winning. Like all of these people that we're talking about are still winning. they're just winning in different ways. JZ wins in a different way. He's not the guy that's just in the booth rapping anymore or putting out artists. He's doing other things. You know,
Starting point is 01:30:56 LeBron's still on the court. But I think one of the reasons that we talk so much about LeBron's off the court is because we're intrigued by the fact this guy's been playing so long and it's accomplished so much off the court. Drake, he's still playing. The reason Drake can still have all of this conversation around his name and everybody's still talking about him and stuff like that is because we're paying attention to him now. You know how hard it is to get people to pay attention to you after 13 years doing one thing. Almost impossible. Almost motherfucking impossible. Same thing with Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Michael Jordan, we watch his highlights and wearing off. He's still the bar for every basketball player. And his business moves are unprecedented. So, you know, they've accomplished numerous goals, and they just keep moving. So I respect it. To me, like, the long story short, after you accomplish your goal, you know, the longevity and consistency of how long long you can be great is what I salute. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Let's do this last one. It's 1990. What's the name of Shala and Andrews TV show? It's 1990. Mm-hmm. Martin. What? Chips.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Ooh. Ooh. It might be brilliant idiots. You can't see that because it's 1990s. Oh, I thought they're like... You make up a name. Oh, I thought it's like, what show would we be characters? on or what the name of our show?
Starting point is 01:32:22 Why do you say chips? Oh, because I was thinking black and white, but they weren't black and white. No, Mexican and white. Yeah. All right, no, hold on, hold on. Let's do this. 1990, what is the name of our TV show? What was happening in the 90s, though?
Starting point is 01:32:41 Would it be lies matter? Queers? Ooh, queers. Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows you're gay. And they're always glad you're gay. I want to be where the... I want to be. You want to be where people see.
Starting point is 01:33:05 But holes are all the same. You want to go where everybody knows you're gay. Queers. It's filmed in front of a lives. Do the audience. That's all really. If you're listening to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent,
Starting point is 01:33:22 you think we're brilliant, y'all. Absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots, you don't know shit, you're right, too. It's a brilliant idiotic podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.

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