The Brilliant Idiots - Grandads Fight (Ft. T.K. Kirkland)

Episode Date: February 4, 2022

This week we had comedian TK Kirkland and Young Nyla join in on the discussion with Wax and Charlamagne, as Big Hezzy is on tour. During the episode, a discussion about men and woman’s role in a relationship gets a little tense, especially when Weezy from Whorieble Decisions podcast, steps in and gives her opinion. But no worries, as the discussion became a learning moment for all of them. Also, during the episode they speak on Whoopie Goldberg recent suspension, ASAP Rocky moving to the top artist spot as he impregnated Rihanna, and Joe Rogan backlash. Also, they answered some “Ask and Idiot” questions from their listeners, that always seem to take a weird turn, if Wax is involved at all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's so stupid it's positively brilliant. Yep, Charlemagne de God. My man Andrew Schultz is not here this week, but Doodoo Herm is here. Big Wax. Yoop. NYLA is here, Nile is here. And R.O.G. T to the motherfucking cake.

T.K. Kirkland. World-renowned philosopher. Yes, sir. I don't even call them a comedian. I don't think comedians are strong enough word for what T.K. brings to the table. Thank you, my man. Thank you so much. It's good, it's good to be here amongst good people, good energy.

What's the energy feel like in this room? I saw you observing some things when you, uh... Yeah, I'm always observing. I always watch women. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can look at a female, understand her growth who raised her. Okay. Her ability, how the function in the world.

Can you say something to a person without confrontation? Yeah. Or are you going to have confrontation? Is it worth saying something so don't lead to an argument? That's the ability when you have life experiences, you can pick that up. A lot of people don't know how to navigate that. And that's why they get in trouble. That's so true.

You know what I mean? Yes. Because you can't be one way with everybody. No, you can't. I totally agree with you. And sometimes you just got to shut up. Yeah. Sometimes you got to shut up.

Yeah. Right. And just fall back because you see what it is. You see where it could go. But that, you know, there's years of experience, too. When the last time you had to do that, T.K., you think? Well, I travel so much. I always have to watch people, but what I do to protect me is I go to bed early so I can be well-rested so I don't get irritated.

Because I'm a man of etiquette. And what I mean by etiquette, I respect everything. When I'm in the elevator, I believe you got to respect the person's space. When you're on the plane, you got to be, there's certain things you don't do on the plane. Like I think even the way you walk in on the plane, when you sit down, you shouldn't be pulling back the seat. If somebody's sitting there, you got to go to opposite direction. I don't think you should fall on the plane. Yeah, I mean.

That's disrespectful. You in a cabin? It's a pressurized cabin. A lot of white people do that. It's nasty. And what's so crazy about don't shit on the plane. Yeah, but here's the worst thing about it is a laugh, right? Even when they far, you take a deep breath in first.

And then you say, fuck, so it was all in your lungs. You always go, oh, God, dear, they're 40. But you took a deep whip of it. But you didn't mean to? You didn't mean to. That's human nature. And then I talk about, this is funny, like during the pandemic, I found that I'm a hater.

I didn't know that. Something happens to everybody in here to make you realize who you are. Yeah, because the pandemic made all of us be still and we saw each other for the first time. We saw a lot of us saw ourselves for the first time. Yes. And I pay for TSA and clear so I could walk past average people. That's what makes me feel successful. Wow.

Like I walk past ever. But when I get out of the car, I know around my peripheral vision, I see two big women walking. And as I get ready to go to clear, put my eye in, I see these two big bitches in a wheelchair, zooming by me. You can't use that word no more, TK. Well, I use it. Zooming by me, right? Watch this. So I said, oh, not the day.

So when I get to the gate, I find out these females are on the same flight I'm on. So I talked to the ticket layer. I said, is there a supervisor? In the area, she said, serves there something else. I'd say, I'd rather not talk here. I'd rather talk down at Gate 9 because people are ear hustling. So the supervisor comes down and she's covering her tities because women with big tities always, when they're supervisors, they're always covering up their stuff, right?

So I said, ma'am, listen, I'm a frequent flyer Southwest Airlines and I fly you guys all the time. And the two big women in the wheelchair down at Gate 3? What? I said, them holes can walk. and I want you to know. And I'm tired of people taking advantage of the system. But you helped their life out.

Right. No, because what happened is supervisor went back to the two people in the wheelchair and told them everything I said because they are on a buddy pass. Yeah. So on the whole flight, they call them a snitch. Snitch.

Snitch. And snitch. I lowered them ain't good, didn't I? I zoomed you in. TK, you two fly for Southwest. No, no, no, I will fly Southwest. I fly Southwest and Spirit. Why?

Why are you taking this up of Fear Factor Challenges? Watch this. I fly so much that sometimes I forget that I have a show. Sometimes I got to catch the flight at the last minute. Yeah. And I'm a fan of Spirit. I caught a flight. Spear.

I've never heard that in my life. Watch this. Spirit got me to where I needed to go for $11, dog. Yeah. $11. You have credit. The big seat. And when you close your eyes,

50,000 feet in the sky, it feels just like Delta. That's effective for like a private airline. Oh, yeah, but you get what you pay for. It's fair. They'll cancel your flight. I've never had to problem. No, what you're saying is absolutely right.

I've never had to. I don't fly them all the time, but I will fly enough if I have to. Yeah, I don't, I'm not against, I don't want to be too big that I can't fly certain airlines because sometimes I've got to get there where I got to go. But you don't fly as much as me. Yeah.

You know, last year alone on. Southwest, I flew 240 times. God, damn. That's not like me. Yeah, I'm, every fucking week I'm flying. You don't do Southwest, though. You on JetBlue? I'm good with JetBlue.

Yeah, but it, and that's why I try to get my rest, because being in my 60s, I got to take time to make sure that, you know, I'm well rested and all that kind of stuff, because it ain't a game, you know? T.K. is 61, man. When I look at TK, certain people I look at in their 60s, and I'm like, man, we got a long life to live, man. Yeah, you can take care of yourself. You know what I'm saying?

K-K-61, man. I do like about 40, 50 miles a week walking. Mm-hmm. So I do that and, you know, I live good. But the best thing about living good to me is one of my greatest moments is having my robe on, sipping on coffee with my weed blow in the back yard, I blow on the leaves off the patio. Man, you can't tell me nothing, boy. Listen to me. When I say that's one of the greatest moments of my life and to be in this area,

year back in the day, you know, back in the day when I had Rob Puffy back in the day. And I was fighting my case over there at Center. Oh, he pressed charges? Yeah, he pressed charges, dog. Why didn't he pressed charges? Yeah, he pressed charges. He was getting me taking me all the way with that. And Eric Von Zip, Haitian Jack, and him was trying to have a conversation with him about it.

But he was really adamant about locking me up. But I had great attorneys at that time. And what they did was- The charge. Attempted grand larceny. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, so it was like $250,000 worth of jewelry at that time. But what people didn't really know, the jewelry never got taken.

It was just really phone calls. It was never like I came near with a credit card. All this stuff was done over the phone. But the female who set it up, I never stitched on her. I took the weight by myself, right? Hey, what she had now? I don't know what she's doing. So you don't even know she's grateful or not?

Yeah, yeah. I don't even know. Yeah. And they had me here. They took me to Rikers Island. So I'm looking at this area, man. Just see where my life is right now. You know, because they really wanted to put me away.

Not because of just the Puffy case. They wanted me to do six years in state prison here because of my past because New York has a predicate felon law. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you catch a felony a year within another felony, you consider the predicate. And they call that mandatory sentence. Mandatory. Yeah.

So you got to do four to six. and I was able to beat that one I wanted to get probation. So the drive that when I was sitting here looking at all, I said, damn, my brother came a long way. You definitely did. You feel me? Because it could have totally been, totally been different. And when I think about that, think about Snoot, when we all was hanging back in the day,

he was up for murder and to see him doing the halftime Super Bowl this weekend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how he's on the Corona commercials and all that. It's just, life's just amazing, man. That's the beauty of the process. That's the beauty of the process to see how 50 got shot and how he turned stars into 50. Like, he really running it. Yeah.

He's running it, yo. No, he does. I say that all the time about 50 cents. That's why I like, um, I like going places that don't have anything yet. Yes. You know what I mean? Like a lot of us like to run to these platforms that are already booming. Like 50 went to a platform that needed all of the content that he's been producing.

And now he's the motherfucking man. He's a man. He's a man. brother. He's the man. So, um, it's just fascinating when you see these type of stories for people. That's all.

Let's get into some us, positively brilliant. We do a segment here at TK. We do a segment here at TK. called positively brilliant. What a fucking idiot. Okay. So we asked the question,

you know, what did you see this week that made you say that was positively brilliant? What a fucking idiot. Um, ASAP Rocky and Rihanna. Oh. I think that's,

I think, um, for him to have a situation. to get her pregnant to know and to see Drake unfollow him and her because he has some that happened yeah he'll follow he unfollow them because of certain emotions what emotion what emotion with that piece it's a female check I get tired of these young men with that female shit like you know like I don't understand men no more yeah I just men can be allowed to have her feelings.

Not if you had a baby already. What I mean? See, here's the thing. We all have feelings, right? And I talk about this all the time. You got to control your feelings. That's true. See, everybody here gets jealous of somebody.

Everybody here might hate somebody, right? But you control your emotions. And all of us got somebody, ex-girl, and I'm getting married. And you're like, damn, bitch. You really go marry that nigga. You know, but you stay in control. I congratulate Aesab Rocky.

I think that we got to re-rank the Harlem power rankings when it come to rappers now. A-Sap got to be number one, right? But why? Because he got Rihanna pregnant. There's not a rap out of Harlem that's done something that great. Oh, that's right. No, no, no, not because of that. Because he beat his case when he was trying to kidnap his ass.

Oh, that's in the past. No, no, no, no, no. That ain't as good as getting. No, no, no. Be first. Yeah, I do care more about him getting Rihanna pregnant than I do. No, no, God. See, you've never been to jail before.

He don't. Yeah, he has to be out of that. Listen to what I'm telling. He wouldn't happen. Listen, I understand. He was in Spain. He was in another country. He was going to take him.

You know how you think about, you know how you drove through this city? And you said to yourself, man, and did all of this shit. But you're looking at your life now. So all of that stuff don't even seem like nothing. Charlemagne, this is it to what I'm telling you. He wasn't in America. Yeah. He was in another country.

And they was going to throw his ass under the jail. The jail wasn't that same jail. No, no, for real. He was in the same jail. He was in the same jail that A-Sat was in this one? Okay. Really wasn't bad at all. I saw the picture.

It looked like a little apartment. Wow. Like Goodfellas? It's like Somicant. Oh, yeah? See what I'm saying? Yeah. Don't make it seem like it's cool, though.

But what? I don't know. I can't believe him. What was your charge? Assault and a public official. Punch the cop over there. Won't punch a cop in America. Can you go?

Control your emotions. He's like, who do you know? Control your emotions. He hung out with a lot of white people. Okay. Got caught up. You got caught up and forgot. He's black in Puerto Rican.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. People, that's what young men need understand. When you start traveling, you better have your mind right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're not playing, brother. Yeah. They're not playing out of there. Okay, so I can see what you're saying with that.

But it's the one who really pulled off the phenomenal move of the last 10 years is when, that to me, when Nick Cannon got homegirl Mariah Carey pray. Nah, A-Sab got them, bro. I mean, that's a good one, too. That's a good one, too. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one.

That's a good one. Get some hot ones out here. Jay, but see, you don't expect ASAP to pull Rihanna. Why? I don't know why. I just, I guess I never really follow him that much. I don't know it's swag. You know, you know him.

I learned a long time ago, I don't sleep on nobody. That's so true. You know what I'm saying. You hit that right on the nail. Because I've seen some things in this business, man. I've seen these multi-millionaire executives who got these beautiful wives, and that beautiful wife is getting. smut it out by

rapper with one hit. You know what I'm saying? And you wouldn't even know. I've seen it. I'm thinking of one in particular right now but I'm going to mind my business. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, that's true. So I don't sleep on no... Yeah, anything is possible. Yeah, so congratulations. Anything is possible when you're a man. Anything is possible when you're a man. Because there is a double standard to it. What you mean?

Women don't have that same, a woman that's not cosmetically right. Okay. can't get a good-looking man. You'll never see it the other way around. What I'm saying. She can smash, though, but I see what you say.

He probably might not go marry a bit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you have a wife, like, a certain, no. Unless you have a low-selfish thing. What do you mean? There's some men who's so insecure and they're handsome. Yeah. They can't date another attractive person.

So they date someone so below them. Really? I never thought about that. They deal with, that's who they deal with. Yeah. And when I travel and I see the strong guy with the big fat woman with the big ring. you know got the big ring i see it all the time and in my journey in life that's funny in my journey in life i can tell the type of confidence a man has by the woman he's with no i always said that you see it all the time i always used to tell somebody in this room that but where do we

rank asaph for real in harland power rankings with rappers he's number one he's number one one yeah he's number one Who was number one before? Was it Cam? Who was Cam Day? Nobody's just as far as being a popping rapper. Wait, what? Who was number one in Harlem before A'sap? I don't think anybody.

Yeah, dipset. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had Harlem on a lot. Yeah, they sure did. This is the same we all getting all to see all this going out the window. It's crazy.

We wish Rihanna a healthy delivery. That's what we want for Rihanna. That's all we want at the end of the day. Like all that other goofy stuff they'd be doing online where they start talking about, oh, Drake's upset and Chris Brown and all this. Right, right. And then I got nothing to do with nothing.

Wow. We love that hate. Yes, we do. Like, when we see something good going on and we see two people actually happy and people announce something good, we can't wait. Yep, human nature.

And we do it under the guys of jokes. Yes, yeah. But truthfully speaking, there's a lot of people out there that's like, You know what? I hope this does hurt Drake. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's literally what they want.

Right, right. The man wins so much. It's like, I really do hope this hurts Drake. Yeah. Well, that's why he shouldn't have unfollowed them, though. I don't know if he did or not. No, that's with the headline. Oh.

Now, y'all believe every headline you see? I'm just saying that. It was trending. Yeah. Yeah, it was trending. I don't know if you're following up. And I don't pay attention there. So I get up at 3.30 to more, and I start just going through stuff.

Yeah. You know, I hate that I bother him three 30rd. I know he looked at him. like, what the fuck, T.K. I'm so early in the morning. I know he's like, T.K. Goddare, can I go to sleep? What did we think about, uh,

Whoopi Goldberg situation? Yeah, um, like I said earlier, and anybody is listening, never discuss politics and religion. Yeah. With anybody's just a rule of thumb. You're going to lose every time. Because all you, all it takes is one wrong way of how you see it.

Or you can be telling the truth. Yeah. And they don't know the facts. And they take it the wrong way now and you're done. Because if you don't own it, like, say you were in the public place, like the young lady who talked about the young cop who got shot and she's like, how are they going to block the streets for a police officer that had a big funeral? I don't remember.

The actress, she lost a job. She was on Twitter disgusted about how the streets was blocked off. And she was talking about how the cop probably didn't know what he was doing. He didn't know how to do his job. And they fired that out. Yeah, I think the worst thing about the movie situation is that she was just wrong. You know what I mean? Okay, yes.

And I think when somebody's just wrong, you know, you can correct them, give them the right information. She apologized. Yes, she apologized. You know, the head of the ADL, Jonathan Green Black came on and corrected her and let her know the Holocaust was all about race. That's literally all the Holocaust was about right. The Nazis thought that Jewish people were an inferior race. Right. That's it.

Yep, that's so true. In the discussion. Yes. So, you know, once that happens, it's like, yo, what else do you want? you know, from an individual. You should. You should. The baby situation

when he made that comment. The next day he did not apologize, he, like, stood on what he said. At least Whoopi apologized. And also, I do think that Whoopi, like, I think her intentions weren't ill, like, in what she was saying. I don't think her intentions

were malicious either, but I was, like I always tell y'all, you can't tell somebody how to react. That's so true. You know what I'm saying? And just because your intention is not malicious, just because your intention is not to offend, doesn't mean the person receiving it

isn't receiving it as malicious. isn't receiving it as offensive. And that's literally all you got to deal with. But I might walk in this room right now, somebody might slap me, and I'll be like, you know what? God bless you. Wish you the best.

I'm sending you healing energy. Right. Slap wax. Wax ain't reacting like that. You know what I'm saying? And guess what? However, whatever reaction you get, you earn that.

And you can't tell me how to react. Right. That's the only thing I find strange about this whole conversation. What people say, nigger, like some people might let you get away with that shit. Exactly. And some people are. But I don't think that all of them

is malicious. I think they just want to say nigger like us, but... It don't matter though. I'm with you. You're going to get hit up. If that person says, nigger, he cannot control the reaction

of the next man. Of whoever is on the receiving end of that nigger. But do you understand what WIPI was trying to say in that statement? No. Like, if she would have said it was about race,

but I do also feel like the bigger issue is how we treat each other as human. Yeah, but that's a great. big cliche conversation to have. Yes, life would be great if we all treated each other better as humans. Yes, we all should spread love. We should all spread peace.

Of course. But that statement is a non-factor when you start off by saying the Holocaust was not about race. Yeah, she fucked up about it. Yeah. When you're on TV like that, you're supposed to stay away from that. Too many examples over time that shows what happens to you when you discuss stuff like that. But I'm really upset because I ain't realized

her last name was Goldberg. I mean, I knew her last name was Goldberg, but I didn't realize it's a Jewish last name. That's what makes it hilarious, right? I'm like, this is a very full circle moment. But that's the irony of it, right? She changed her last name or her mom told her to change her last name. She didn't change her last name.

She took the stage name, Goldberg. Because she thought it would be easier to get on. You know what I mean? I really hate that. She's not the only person who did that, though. Who else did that? A lot of people changed their name. I think it's like a Spanish woman.

She wrote a book. book. Jamie Fox, that's not his real name. What's his real name? I don't know. I forgot. That's not his real name.

Wow. Ben Diesel, that's not his real name. Is it? I guess that's not my real name. Now, but did they change it to a Jewish last name? Like to change it to a whole different.

What? You didn't know what? This is what you, you'd be forgetting you'd be around so much young people. Right. You know what? That means is just common information. People do not know that.

Yes, people do know that. Your generation don't know that. I don't remember, but I know it ain't Jamie Fox. Eric. Eric something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Whoopi got a black name.

Whoopi name is like Catherine Johnson. No, I'm not even joking. It is. Really? What does it say that? I would never call him that. It's a fly stage name. Eric Martin, what?

Eric Martin. And the wild thing about Whoopi, I was reading that in the Jewish Chronicle at a charity event in 2016. She was like, I am, she was like, I am Jewish. And she was like, you know, I changed the name Goldberg for my heritage.

I don't know what that means, but that's what she said. Right. She had a connection to Israel and stuff like that. I don't know. And she said, and my thing with that was like, I wonder if she feels hurt because she has been supporting the community for so long. You know what I mean? Let's talk about the real move, how, what became on the view and now running it.

Yeah, she ain't running it that much. She's suspended for two weeks. That's so true. And you know what's so crazy. We got a ball. The president of ABC is a black woman. So the person who put out the statement and explained why they suspended will be is a black woman. Yeah.

And we have a tendency to make things equal the way things are now. The world is really kind of sort of got balanced. You got to stay away from talking about things like that because it happens to Nick Cannon. Like anytime a person of color talks about. D.K. said it. Religion and politics. Anytime you do that. And we live in a world. right now. That's all people are discussing.

Yes. Religion and politics. You got to shut up. And you want to- shut up because it would lead to war. And you wonder why some people get into trouble? I mean, it can lead to war. I mean, all you could do, I'm not going to get into it because they're the lead of war.

Yeah. But they're still fighting overseas over land. True. Because religion. Yes. And then it's a hundred years. And you see also, too, it's a tit for tat, right? Because you see people saying things like, oh, well,

Whoopi needs to be fired because Roseanne got fired two years ago from ABC. when she spoke out against, when she had something negative to say about Michelle Obama, that's very true. But there's people that have not forgot that. So when they see something like this happened, they're not even really that offended by what Whoopi said. They just want to see blood because they parted and got caught.

That's what I said in two weeks. They might want to fire. They could find a way to fire her in a clause. They could probably pull off. Think about it. But I do think these type of conversation need to be had. What do you mean? Like, you know, like this,

You go up, not that it's a good situation, but to shine light on it and to, like, teacher, like, no, that's wrong. Here's the thing about life, young lady. These things come up here and there throughout your journey and all that comes down to is just conversation and talk. But never changes anybody. And the people really need to hear it or not listen to the podcast or not watch the TV to hear it. So we go in a cycle. In the 60s, you have the same type of thing. the 70s, the 80s, the 90s.

But how do you know they're not listening? Because we've made a little progress, but not a lot because I'm based on everything based on how old I am. And I've been here a lot longer than you. So, and seeing back in my day, like, you even speaking to me out of turn like that would be wrong. Because when elders speak. How am I thinking of the turn?

Watch what I'm about to tell you. When grand, I'm almost consider your grandfather in a sense. So when elders. That's what they call them. Like in Africa and everything, elders, when they usually talk, there was never no back and forth that was based on wisdom

and knowledge what that person was speaking. No, we used to talk back, but we get smacked in our mouth. Got you, tricked in a mug, right or wrong. Yeah, but this is different because... No, no, no. Listen to me, I'm here today in this world. I was just sharing something with you.

I don't... Trust me, I sing what we did in the other room. I know you could go tick-p-fat. I am. I don't have that kind of energy today. Okay, cool. Go back down like that. Yeah, no, no.

I know she can get with it. I've seen it, babe. No, I'm good. Well, I think the talking out of turn thing is a little, uh, and here's the thing. People around the world will even say I'm wrong because, like he said, our world is different. Compared to that, what the, what he just? They'll text.

Well, especially our podcast. Listen to me, they were clown and they still going to clown. Oh, yeah, you're right. This is a podcast. Especially. You're right. So here's the thing, though. Remember I said earlier about everything I do in life is about etiquette.

That's my world. See, I believe in opening the door. Let me finish? I believe in an open the door for you. I believe in if I saw you somewhere now that we're friends, I would buy you a drink. I would treat you like queen as a gentleman. That's the way I move. Hey, sister, you was with Charlemagne, right?

Let me get that for you. See, it's all right then. Respect. You see? That's what I mean. You feel like you was talking about her? Do we? No, I was going to ask when was I talking that?

No, no, no. It's just that I cut you off, but I didn't want you to get on a momenta because I wasn't finished my thought. That's all. That's selfish. Yeah. Had you questioned yourself.

But do you see what I'm saying? It's okay when you're a gentleman, when you're doing things for the person. But I'm like this and everything in life. Yeah. You know, that's just how I move. And I understand it gets me irritated sometimes because the world has changed.

Yeah. So I have to have the ability. to knowing to fall back and be quiet because I'll get my feelings hurt or we'll be arguing more than what we really should because it's just two different worlds now. Can you as an OG listen to the younger generation? Like if Nila had something to explain to you,

like a... Yeah, that's the ability to learn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see that we are in different times. So in order to get through, I got to stay... Because, you know, I don't do it too much to my daughter. My daughter will say, things before we get to those things, that I have a voice.

I want to say what I have to say. She's a very intelligent girl. And I think about that. You know, I never do. I say, I'm your father and you're going to listen to me. I never do need of my children like that, right? So I do understand that world of people 30, 40 years younger than me. You have to, that strictness, that respect thing is gone.

So you really just have to bite your tongue. The respect is not gone, though, because I definitely can appreciate men with a moral coat. And a lot of older men have more cold. Less and less younger men have a more cold. So I think that's something that still should be taught. But the thing with, I guess, older people is more cold. That's problematic is like the misogyny in it.

Like talking at a turn, telling a woman she's talking out of turn is kind of offensive. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, well, not to me. But then, not to me. Not to me. You wouldn't want to offend the woman. Yeah, but I'm a different. That's wheezy.

the background. Give me an example. Like just now. How men today would talk about, get on the mic. How men today would talk about money transactions in front of a female.

Yeah. I mean, in the context, never finish, every finish, before we get. And then tell a woman she's at a turn.

But I already know it's, and I'm going to share to you my, my energy. See, even with the energy that you're projecting,

even with the eye contact. I'm just matching it. Let me finish. Watch what I'm about to say. I don't even want to go toe-to-to-to what you either

because I, I observed you for the last hour. So I already know where that energy goes. I want to stay focus on. I feel you. I've observed some of your YouTube comments about me as well. I just want to stay focused on one. Oh, y'all had comments?

No, that's not really him on YouTube. So what is that? That's a parody account. Yeah. You're telling me T.K. Kirkland, talking shit. We was talking about that earlier today. That's not him. That's not a parody account.

Now I get it. Now I understand it too. Because he kind of sound like you sound right now. So let me tell you what. I'm glad that this came up because I wanted to talk about it on the grass card. There's somebody acting like they're mean. Yes.

He sound like you. I knew that. You know, it's so funny, I don't even think to ask you that because I know it's a parody account. Yes. And it. No, it's not me, man.

But let me tell you, now let me tell you why it's not funny. Some brothers called me up. Some ganges. members. Oh, my God. Because the boy says something that violated these guys. Yeah.

And they called me and they said, yo, Nick, you really about, they, like, they was for real. But they gave me time to explain. Because there's a, no, TK. We know you don't move like that. I said, no, it ain't me. It's somebody acting like they're me. It says, it's not me.

But I meant to say that because when I got off the air, the guy that took the pictures, I was saying, yo, you always comment on the YouTube. I said, yo, that's not me. I should have said, so. I said, yo, I should have said something, yo. Because guess what? Sometimes I'm not going to have time to talk. Yeah, somebody going to try to see you.

No, you're right. We think was ready to shoot. You could have been talking out of turn. You never know. Right, but my point is, it's not me. And sometimes you ain't going to have that ability to talk to somebody quick enough to convince them. Man, that's crazy. I'd never even thought about it because I've known TK for a damn big 20 years.

So how do we get rid of that? You don't? Or, you know, you can report it, I think, on YouTube. I tried to report it. Like for years and they go. For years, Joe. It's so funny, man.

For years I've been trying to. That is fucked up. Because that dude gonna get me hurt. Yeah. You see the young lady, I don't even know what she was talking about. It was. It was still a good argument.

Yeah, but see, I'm such a quiet person. There's certain women you don't go toe to toe with because it could escalate to a certain thing. And I stay away from that. You know? You do good at keeping.

I'm just that kind of guy, avoid that kind of problem. Well, go back to the talking out of the third thing. Since we know that's not TK. Under the comments. No, I mean, I think to say that, you know, you carry yourself with etiquette, I do think that speaking to women in a manner that at least makes them feel respected wouldn't be saying a comment like you're talking out of turn. Well, we didn't say.

See, it's not what you say is how you say it. I think you said it very rude. Okay. No, no, no. Watch what I'm saying. It's not what you say is how you say it. How old are you? I'm 30.

And how old are you? 26. Any woman over 30. 45, 40 years old that I date to this day would never say what you're saying. And let me clear. Age has a lot to do it. That's my point. Because they're more significant.

Our age difference has made a huge impact over the last 30, 40 years. There are women in this world who like a man who is strong, who's a leader, who doesn't really tell a person what to do, but they know that man has man qualities. I agree. Masculinity is definitely leading. Yes. But it's not telling you to shut the fuck up nicely. But I didn't say shut the fuck up.

But I didn't say shut the fuck up. But even talking about it. You've been more fitting for a podcast. No, no, no, no. Here's the thing with me. But if I, to me, I'm a gentleman and I'll cut people up, but I'll say, excuse me, I wasn't finished with my thought. That's what I would normally say. Yeah.

But that's how I'm not saying. But I didn't say it like that, right. But it goes back to the earlier point, like, just because you say something and that's not your intent. Yes. You can't tell them how to receive it. Right. I totally agree. You know what I mean?

But that's why before we got started, before they all came to this, I said you also have the ability to know when they're all back to understand that they have a point. See, I said that earlier because I knew it would come to that. So I want people to understand. See, I saw the room before it developed. It's like Tom Brady, you got to watch the play. You start a play. Developing.

Them two linebackers are blitzes. I saw. Listen to me, I saw this before it even happened. The blitzed on. Before it even happened. But it goes back, even though how young men today hustling, that girl will be on the phone or they count money to make your moves and their girl hear the conversation.

Oh, that's wrong, you know? Because this, no, it is. You know, E40 used to say it all the day. E40 had a rap. He had a license. Never tell a woman all your business. Because he might end up being an eye. eyewitness.

Yeah. That's why they used to say never let your right hand know what your left hand is doing. Like you put somebody in a position that they don't need to be in. Yes. Let's take the Godfather. You ever notice when they sat in the meetings and the wires and the wires are new. This is old school. People ain't doing it today.

The wives are to see that us three is talking. And they say another woman who understood like, let's go to the other wing of the house so we can talk and drink. because the men were going to talk. Not today, women sitting right in that motherfucker with you. But I think that's a little different because not because the men are just talking because the men are talking about illegal activities.

Yes, you know what I'm saying? The men are talking about it. That's right. That's what I meant. What they're supposed to be talking about, though. Who you mean? They're always supposed to be trying to grow and always try to talk business.

In that era, like women weren't getting to the bag the way women are getting to the bag now. It's not about money right now. That's the easy way that women go. They always want to bring the money in it. It's the illegal. I'm talking about tradition, just how it was. But that doesn't, what I'm saying is just I'm in a different error.

So you have to respect where I'm at, too. Like, you want to know, what exactly are you saying, T.K.? What I'm saying to her is there are certain things you wouldn't say to your father. But your father's not my, I'm older than your dad, right? You ordered than my dad. Yeah, so your grandfather. How old are your grandfather would be? 80.

Yeah, I'm close to that age. So there's certain things you wouldn't say to your grandfather out of respect. But like what? I can't explain that to you If you don't know what you would say to your grandfather I can have a conversation with my grandfather And he's going to listen He's going to respect

But that's what I'm saying But there's certain things you wouldn't say to him Or say around him Am I correct? Like give you an example A female says she used profanity And I'm me I said Babe I don't really think you should curse

This is who I am I can't stop cursing I said would you curse around your grandmother Will you curse around a pastor? No I definitely wouldn't curse around my grandmother Yeah, and would you curse around a pastor, a minister? This is interesting because TK is 61 years old,

but he's in the entertainment business. I think sometimes when you're of a certain age and you're in the entertainment business, people may not look at you as an elder. So true. You know what I'm saying? Because when I talk about the stuff I do on stage, it doesn't comprehend it.

I'm talking about dating a woman is 72 years old. You know, it doesn't, it doesn't comprehend. They don't get it because I, you know, I don't look my age. Now, if I looked like Dick Gregory with a gray beer and fragile and I was on a cane, those jokes would go over insane. Talking about an elderly that's going to tell you, shut the fuck up. Oh, yeah.

God bless the day. That's right. Dick Gregory was going to tell you shut the fuck up. He would tell you. All the time. All the time. Man, wild of people do that at the woman, though. Yeah, he did.

I've seen him. And he definitely did it do it to the grin. What I love about this. No, what I love is really the gap. Like, I'm the, see, it's not about what we're saying. It's the gap that you really see. see how the world is really changed. See, I see the way the world one way and I'm on my way out.

Older guys like me, we're on our way out. It's the younger people that speak in the world totally different. And old-fashioned ways, right? And it's just light. I'm not going to lie. I think it's changed for the better. I just think we got to find like a happy medium. Because I think that back in the day it was it was one way to an extreme.

Like it was very toxic and fucked up. We didn't realize that young. the young men don't care. They don't got no more. So they're disrespectful to the women. See, so you can't have to kick you there. No, no, no, no, we wasn't this bad. No, we were.

Oh, no. No, we were. We wasn't this bad. At least we had shivery. We had shivery, but we were still fucked up. Yeah, but it's too much than what it is now. Morally, we was way better. A little bit.

Come on. A little bit. Wax. Am I right? Yeah, yeah. The reason I say that is because we, I think our generation, we failed the generation coming up after us. You know what I mean?

Because a lot of those young kids that we say are fucked up, they're fucked up because of the way that they were watching us up. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think it's how you was raised. I don't know, man. I think your parents and your environment has a lot to do. We grew up in the bitches ain't shit but holes in tricks era.

I was going to say, I think it's. For real. Yeah, my parents are pastors in the church, man. What did I got to do with anything? And he came out the way he came out. That's what I'm saying. I'm going to agree with him because you said all the pen. Man, hey, we grew up in a very misogynist.

Yeah, the old principal was you was growing up. We grew up in a very misogynistic, toxic-ass area, and we turned a lot of our trauma into culture. And I think we was too extreme with it. That's why over the last few years, it's been a big rebellion against that, rightfully so. But now it's going too far this way, and we all got a meet in a happy meeting.

I think it's a pot of gumbo. I think everybody's right. And putting a little stuff in there, everybody, their journey. Because what's so beautiful about life? All of us have a flight. patterned, right? And your flight took her from the Guadde. Her flight took her from North Airport. He flew for Philadelphia. I flew from Atlanta. But all the information we accumulated and knowledge has led us to this room. So now you're expressing what your journey was.

She's expressing her journey and vice versa. So we're all putting what we've experienced. But what we can't deny is your journey. Your journey has taught you what to say. So we're all right. I can't say you're wrong because of your journey. I can't say you're on your journey. But But what we have to do is be smart enough to take bits and pieces from each other. Because what I'm learned for the young ladies is to be more gentle. Yeah. Have more empathy. Unless I'm on stage.

On stage, that's my world. On stage, that's my world. But off stage, like if you knows, I don't even curse when I'm off stage. I never use profanity when I'm on stage. But when I get on stage, man, you're going to get it. But when I'm offstage, you know, one of my favorite things to do, one of my favorite things to do is let her hear shit that we grew up on. Woo! Because it's mind blowing to her.

She can't believe how the shit that we used to rap about, talk about, comedy. Yes. Like, Eddie Murphy couldn't do raw now. No. No. No way. Come on. It's like PG-3.

Come on, man. Like, even something as simple as, like, go back and. listen to go watch house party and watch kids rapping to jail say. Yes.

My God. Yes. They were, man. You put it like that, bro. That's what I'm saying. Man.

But that's what I'm saying. How it's so, it's so, so different. It's very different. You know, something as simple as watching the movie

like belly. Yeah. Why was Vita 16? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was no reason for that in the movie. No,

that NWA record that you was playing. The NWA record? Oh, my God. Now, he used to run with NW. I started out with NWA. What was that song? She swaddled it.

She swall it after police. The song, they talk about fucking the pastest daughter. Right, I forgot the name of that song. I think she swallowed it. She was only 16. 14, right, yeah. But it goes back to Rick James. She was only 17, but she was sexy. I don't know what it is about artists and young women. I don't know what it is. But that's my point is like, that's the type of stuff

that was in the lexicon. That was the music. That was the movie. That was the movies. It was just regular as fuck. You know what I mean? That shit had to get corrected, Joe. You can't be mad. But we're done now. Oh, it's okay. It's a rap, brother. Everybody got a voice.

It's done. We are done. You hear me? It's over. It's over, bro. You think it's over? Man, they did. But no, it's still a way to do what you do and what a Chappelle does. I hope that they get it, but when you see Smash,

grabs and you see there's no etiquette. If you see, you see nobody has common sense no more. You see that rappers are dying every day. Like there's nothing. We got to take some blame for that. I don't care what nobody's saying. The older generation has to take some blame for that. Because you know what happened?

What happened was we put out a lot of that shit into the atmosphere, right? Even before me, when we first started loving hip-hop, hip-hip-hop music, a lot of that energy was out there. The celebration of the gang culture, celebration of the drug culture. you know, violence against women, violence against each other. It was all out there. When a lot of brothers made that transition and grew and evolved, we didn't have those conversations about growing and evolving.

And so it was a whole generation that watched people come up off of that shit. And those street guys, they was like, oh shit, these motherfuckers is rapping about our lives. So I might as well get in the booth and start making music and shit too. They got in the booth started making music and shit too. but their real life bled not just into the music but bled into the street. So you don't believe in accountability?

Accountability. But who took, we didn't take accountability, is my point. But what did we go through to make us even had them type of, like, ideas and doing the things

that we was doing? They had to come from trauma or would they get? That's my point. We turned trauma into culture and we put that shit in music, you put that shit in movies and we did not explain

to the next generation. Let me tell you why. I'll tell you a story, right? I'll tell you a story. Everything we're saying in this room is right. until you get in front of a judge. That's when you realize it's right. No, why's what I'm about to tell you?

See, when you hurt somebody and you go to court and the judge, depending on who she is or he, she'll say to you, you don't think you could have done this another way? See, because there's street laws, right? Then there's the law. That's right. And regardless of what we say on the streets, you've got to hold yourself accountable

because when you get to jail in front of that judge, they go strictly by the book. They know what society did to you. They know this happened. You are responsible for your decision. Even when you get to jail, all is this what we're talking about? Nigger talk out of turn in jail,

motherfuckuck talking about. And you do realize, like, so much of that stuff that we put out there was actually criminal. We wasn't telling these young boys that it was criminal. You're not missing money. What you're saying is right. accountability. They don't want to, they don't care if your mother raped you.

They don't care if your dad did something to you. When that judge is talking to you, they don't care about it. I'm telling you, they don't agree with you. They don't give a fuck about your trauma. They don't care about your drama. But I'm just saying that we didn't hold ourselves accountable back then. But what I'm trying to,

nobody told us we were wrong, so we didn't tell the next generation they was wrong. But what you're saying is right. So to the young man that's driving this car right now, to the young lady whose son's in the back seat add to the full. What we want to share to them is if you hold yourself accountable, you can make better choices.

See, because that's what I'm trying to say. Hold yourself accountable. Because if nobody else tells you, you know right from wrong. You know if you're going there hurt somebody. No, I agree with you 100% but do you know right from wrong though? Here's the thing. When we was younger than we really know, man.

We do. But here's the thing. While we run, you know what I'm saying? We know every law. We were scared. We knew we didn't want to go to jail. Because we were holding yourself accountable, you wouldn't rent. But Charlemagne, you do.

If you holding yourself accountable, you wouldn't run. Nobody's going to do. That's my point. Yes, but if you hold yourself accountable. Like, you hold yourself accountable. Give me an example, right? I was watching the young men who shot young dog. Mm-hmm.

Oh, Lord. When they came to court, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I told me what I felt. Yeah. And I saw the cops in the room. And I saw the two young boys come in. I got hurt, yo.

You know what I was hurt? Because they were kids. Yeah. They had no idea what's going to happen to them. That's how we were. We didn't understand the consequences of our actions. If we did, we wouldn't have the 95% of the shit we was going. Our mothers was whooping my ass with felt.

That didn't matter, though. They were still whipping our ass. We still were doing bullshit. But it made a difference, though. Like, shit, you get beaten with a stintchard. It made a difference, though. I definitely got to be with an extension cord. I got beating with extension cords.

It made a difference. But what I want these young guys to hear, hold yourself accountable because you don't have a father no more. Yeah. Right? You don't have that mother maybe anymore. But you got you. You got to look yourself in the mirror every day. If you want something out of life, you got to look at you and better yourself.

Because like you said, ain't nobody going to tell you. That's my point. Ain't nobody going to touch you. Ladies and gentlemen, you got to tell yourself because when I hear people say life is too short, I don't believe life is too short. I believe life is long and you're going to be here a long time. And you want to enjoy this as much as you can because words is powerful. So when you say life is short, to me, you take time off your life.

So you got to start saying life is long. I'm not dealing with this bill. So I want young men and women to hold these souls accountable because what they are doing out here now is insane. And listen to your elders. Because even back then, man, if you go back to the 90s, Yes, sir. Everything C. Dolores Tucker was saying was true. Yes, right.

Everything the honorable minister, Louis Fragon was saying was true. They was telling us about the destruction that we was put in in our music. They was telling us about the description we were putting in our culture. They was telling us the truth. And to take it to a white level to prove our point, Donald Trump to have the power that he had to get those people to attack the capital building, right? Was off the false lie and the energy. and people believed it and actually went.

They reacted. I'm sitting here. That's logical. Yeah. How the fuck you put the other? You don't really believe this and just go attack the building? But people are influenced. And we all influenced some kind of way, right?

We watch TV and see a nice shirt. Like, oh, I like that shirt. You want that shirt? You see a person with a nice face? You're influenced. Yeah. I was influenced. I wanted a motherfucker.

I went and got a 38 snub nose after I saw juice. Because that's the gun pock had. and juice. You know what I mean? Like we're acting like this stuff didn't influence us. Yeah. And I think it's a

again, everything goes back to common in my generation, your generation. And if this is a sign of what's the come, like I was riding my scoot in my neighborhood,

you know, I'm successful. I don't, I use an electric bike. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was going down the wrong way of the street, cop pulled me,

but I knew who he was. So he started talking. And, He's talking about how his kids grow up. I said, you want your kids to be a cop? He said, the way this world is going, he said, no. So he already sees what's about to happen the next 10, 15, 20 years. It's going to be bad, man.

It's going to be something else, brother. It's going to be bad now, man. Yes. Remember I was saying how it's going to get to a point where we're going to live in America. And you know how you go to certain parts of Africa or certain parts of Mexico, you have to have armed security with you? Yes, yes. It don't matter if you're famous or not. You got a little bit of something.

Yes. You got to have it. That's how it's going to be in America. Yeah. It's a man. Remember that's secure. Remember we was with the homie and the security guard? Security guard said that security.

This dude had just moved from Central Mexico. He's the god, this Israeli family in Central Mexico. Right. He moved to America because he was like, yo, every day was like, war. You know what I mean? Like you just, we was protecting the family, but we knew anything could go down. And he was like, now I moved to America to get away from that, thinking I'm doing security for these people.

And he was like. Right back at that. He's like, it feel like it's going back that way. He said, I see America going that way. Man, he's not securing no gangster raffles and nothing like that. He's securing a great family that we all know that ain't in and none of that shit. Right, right. But he knows that, man, especially, and they out there in L.A.

Yeah, L.A. is insane. Home invasion is out of control. It's insane. Like, when I was out of town, some people tried to, they was going to come rob my house, but the cameras came on. I saw them on the tape, but they, they were so bold. They went to the neighbor's house. So you know, if the lights come on, you leave the area. They went to the neighbor's house.

And when they went on, I was on stage. I left my phone because I can see it on my phone. I left my phone and I went to perform. And then the housekeepers, the landscape people called me the next day. Say, hey, do you have Jimmy's numbers? What happens? So you got? Someone broke in this house.

And I saw the camera. They had hoodies on and everything. And they was walking up my driveway. The lights came on. The dude just like, and just went down and went to the, my man's house, but this goes to show you, they don't care. They don't give a fuck. They don't care, y'all. It's crazy.

You have dogs or something now. Listen, Tee to the motherfucker K has to go, man. He's going to be at the Stress Factory in Jersey all weekend in New Brunswick, New Jersey. New Brunswick, Chinese Man Theater. The 9th and 10th with me and Mike Absen in Los Angeles, California.

Catch me at Tommy Tees, too, on the 16th of this month, February. Then, if you're in Cleveland, Ohio for the All-Star break, check me out to Improv, the world-famous Imprived. I'm all over. And if you're in St. Thomas on the April 23rd, make sure you check me.

Just follow me on Instagram, TK. underscore Kirkland. And shout out to Wax, the beautiful young lady, the great Charlemagne, the god. The young lady in the back who was about to shoot me, the gentleman who got arrested over there at A-Sat Rocky. To my girl T. Hopefully she feels better than yesterday. She lying you about being sick?

I was on the phone with I could tell she was upset about something. What you? Oh, no, no, no. Her family got into a fight last weekend. You ain't seen the shit in Golden Corral and Philly? No. Man. That's what I'm talking about.

No, for real, for real. Did you see about that? Over steak. Over steak. Yeah. Amazing. They ran out of steak. Yes, right. That's right.

And went to war. Went to war. 40 people. It's the place where he's going to be at, this place where I had the restaurant across the street. That's where you ran from the rat. Bro. That's what you ran from the right.

It's the same comedy when we went to go see Duvall. Yeah. Yeah. What happened? You know, he scared of mice. Okay. He scared the deference. Wow.

Like phobia, like bad. They had us all way in the back and I seen something go past. I took all. I don't even remember being outside. The same club. You know what a nice, it's a nice, listen, it's a beautiful restaurant right by the scratch back, you. It's a nice little restaurant.

I think it's like an Italian spot or something. We sit in the back eating nothing but white people right Imagine this big motherfucking just jumping up and running out of the restaurant I'm gone

man No white people look so goddamn Especially down there It's pure white But if you see me running What you're gonna do? Run too I know it's a bunch of white people

Nobody motherfucking ran Because white people don't understand that What happened? What's it going on? No white people don't do that White people like what the fuck is going on White people get shot maybe And then think of something

But this golden carral with the Taylor. This is overstated. Watch the white, the white lady going to push Taylor. She's in the all black. Watch the white lady push taylor. Watch the white lady push taylor. Here it come. Right there. See her with the hood on? Right. That's right.

That's what with the hood on. That's what the hood on. This is overstake, yo. Watch the white lady push tail. This is overstayed guy. Overstate. And here's another crazy thing that has happened in the world. These are all lies. Stop. Taylor. What's wrong with this? I like how y'all had each other back.

But here's the other crazy thing we talk about how the world changed. As we was growing up, you never saw or heard anybody fighting on the plane. Never. You said, hell, you never do that. Yeah. Or the airport. It's a library, bro. Man, you don't do that. Because there was always the thing they would, they'll ban you from the plane.

You go to federal jail? Everybody was trying there, yo. They're fighting in the sky. They get flight attendants. You know, they're whooping ass. I'm putting you to sleep, and we'll figure it out when we're like, this might be a decoy. I ain't playing with you. If you backed up,

that has one drunk dude, I'm looking at him like, bro, do I like somebody to fuck with, bro? Like, sit your dumb ass down. Right. Oh, when we was coming back from L.A.? Yeah, maybe that drunk, no, fuck.

Act like he's about to go to the guy, the fucking pile. He was trying to go to the pot. Man, you don't sit your stupid ass down. Thank you, yeah. Oh, I remember him? I thought you're about to do when he was walking down the runway

when we landed. Remember the dude was drunk? Which was? That was recently. That was like, when we went to end for Andrew wedding. And the dude was drunk and he started flirting with you.

He was like, oh, you big. You're big. He was like, oh, let's wrestle. He was like, let's wrestle. Right, right. It's amazing how they state stuff. Like, you're a man. You can't play with you like that.

How do the TSA treat you? Um. I do not fair to me. I do TSA and Clear. Me too. I got everything. But you look suspicious. All right, whatever.

Fuck it. If T.K. said it. I'm too old to be breathing like this, you know. I'm showing my age. Listen, T to the motherfucker K, man. Make sure. Love you, man.

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of what we do in church. Wax? Yes. Man, February 5th, man, this is Saturday. Saturday. We will be in caveat in New York City, man. We got a bunch of games and got some special guests and all. Like, I need to pull up.

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Oh. Oh, we did? Oh, we got Traft Q. We got M. out there. We got Dominica. What about Yamaneca? Yamonica crazy. What about the tall one? She's going to get me too. She always get me anyway. I'm used to it.

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Make sure you go by Anita Copac, shallow waters, and Tamika Mallory, State of Emergency, how to win in the country we built. Let's get back to the show. Oh, yes, Taylor's Remindy. me that we got a lot of black effect hats salute to michelin nest michelin nest is where you know is who make the black effect snapbacks and um yeah i'd just be giving them away i just ordered a whole bunch of them so if you want one uh hit up taylor gang fun size t on instagram i don't think we got

no more we don't got no more hoodies and t-shirts left right the small amount of those but if you definitely want a snapback i'll be giving those away all through black history month so just hit up Taylor and she'll send you a black effect snapback. It's really just that easy. All right. I enjoyed our conversation with TK, man. The reason I enjoyed our conversation with TK. I've been knowing TK for like 20-something years.

And it's always interesting to me to talk to the OGs like that because he's 61. I'm 43, so he's damn near 20 years older than me. And then to bring in the dynamic of Weezy and Nila, that's 20, 40 years. younger than somebody like a TK, 20-something years younger than me. It's just interesting to hear all of those different, you know, conversations and, you know, how people receive things and, you know, even to hear him when he was leaving, like, yo, I got to adjust. I got to be more gentle when I'm talking.

You know what I'm saying? I appreciate those kind of conversations, and I think those are the type of conversations that get us to a better understanding of each other. Him saying that is why I was saying that I think the conversation that Whoopi Goldberg was trying to have conversations on religion and conversations that he was saying we shouldn't have, I think should be had because the more you learn about somebody and how somebody feels about one way, like you learn to adjust like, okay, maybe there's something to it. No, I'm not saying whoope's statement was correct, but he was saying that we shouldn't talk about politics or religion. And I'm saying that I think conversations should be had because the more you know, the more you learn, the more you like, Yeah, but we just got to be talking to people who know what the fuck they're talking about.

The problem now, that's really all it boils down to. The problem now is everybody's talking. Whether it's podcast, whether it's social. You're not wrong. You're not wrong at all. But podcasts, social media, radio, it's all of these platforms and everybody's just talking.

YouTube. It's not a lot of people who really know what the fuck they're talking about. You know what I'm saying? And that's why, you know, we spend all day in the group chat. I'd just be frustrated that shit people would be doing. Like I saw it when Shade Room posted the other day

the shit about first for black history. And they put Kanye what's the wealthiest black man in history. They probably pay for that. But why would you? Like people run with that and believe it. Yeah. That was a big topic everywhere

and all the offices and everywhere. Barbershops for sure. You're a race man Samusa. You don't give credit to the richest black man in America now, Robert Smith, right? You know what I'm saying? Sluke to my guy, Robert Smith.

You know? You don't talk about Oprah. Like, we got black billionaires here in America that really have billions, you know what I mean? Not as billions like Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates them, but it's just like, you know how many people you've got to discredit to say Kanye West

is the richest black man in America? And by the way, I know people think I'd be hating on Kanye and say they're looking at just like, say it's going to Shaliman hating on him again. No, it's just not factual. And people run with that shit. And we don't understand how stupid we be sound and repeating things like that. What if you're on motherfucking jeopardy?

And the question is, he's the richest black man in America. Like Kanye West. You say Kanye West. You dumb fuck. You know what I'm saying? That's all you know, though. That's what's being put out there.

That's my point. Like stuff like that is what I hate wrong information. Like, Whoopi was just wrong. Her information was just wrong. She wasn't, she was, she, her information was just wrong. I don't think Whoopi was being malicious, but it's not my place to say. But can you get mad at for somebody because that's what they took of it. That's what you mean.

So many people took certain things of whatever, anything. Yes. That's what we took of it. No, you should never be mad at somebody for having the wrong information. Is this wrong information? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I'm not mad at her for being wrong.

You know what I mean? You got to spend it for a couple of weeks or something, what I'm saying? But that's because, like, I always say, you can't tell somebody how to react. You know what I'm saying? You just can't do it. We can't say what's fair and what's not fair. I tell you that all the time.

Wax put hands on you, he's going to OD. I've seen him do some stupid shit before. You know what I'm saying? He deserved it. No, he didn't. No, listen, I can't. say that. I can't say what he deserved. Like you just now said, you might, you might slap me. I might shoot you. But that's my point. So you can't tell them that they overreacted by suspending it

will be for two weeks. Do I think it was overreaction? Yes. Yes. But I wasn't the person offended. Yeah. You know what I mean? I wasn't the person she said that too. You're a little overboard. All right. How many times people don't told you that? Maxx, it was only a blunt. Yeah. It's still still. I looked at it's something else. You know what I mean? Over a blunt. You stole from me. So you still a blunt for me, what else you were still? That's a good point. A blunt?

That's a good point. That's a good point. Was it a blunt or was it weed? It was a blunt. It was a blunt. How much weed was it? Man, if it's a blunt. It was a blunt.

It was a grower guy. What are you talking about Nylund? What are you talking about Nile? What type of niggins you think we are? Why would I? What? I'm talking about you just beat the, I'm talking about beating the shit out of somebody. Oh, oh, oh, no, no, no.

I thought, oh. Oh, oh, oh, no, no. I didn't realize that he beat somebody up because they stole weed. I thought you guys were hypothetical speaking. I didn't know this was a real. No, no, no, no, no, no. Things happened, you know what I'm saying? Just sniffing over the phone of all.

I'll tell you something else, too. That Whoopi Goldberg thing, boy. That Whoopi Goldberg shit, then made me forgot what Joe Rogan, what they even mad about Rogan for? I forgot. Oh, yeah, yeah. What was he?

Oh, vaccine. Misinformation from me. He got the vaccine. Oh, no. That's stupid. And I'm going to tell you why that's silly. If they're mad at Joe Rogan for having doctors on that spread misinformation, then why they're not mad at CNN, MSNBC,

Fox News, and every other platform who had doctors on that spread information. All of these doctors that people look up to the Fauci's, DeSanja Gupta's, they all at one point have spread what we could call misinformation on these networks. You know what I mean? Yo, what those doctors said on Joe Rogan might turn out to be true in a month or so. We don't know. We don't know. But the only difference between them and Rogan and them and CNN is people just don't like Joe Rogan.

That's what it really boils down to me. We need to start having those conversations how some of this shit is just popularity contest. It's all about who you actually like in the moment. For sure. And I also wonder if a lot of these people that are coming at Joe Rogan have actually listened to Joe Rogan. I've been listening to Joe Rogan for a long time. You can't listen to clips of something taken out of context and come to a whole conclusion about a person.

And I also think, I don't think people really even be listening. I really think they just be looking at reactions. I really feel that. I really feel people just be looking at reactions. They look and see what everybody else is thinking. And if everybody else has an opinion on something, then they say, you know what? Those people are right without actually going to listen for themselves.

How many times have you actually heard something about something? And then went to listen for yourself and realize that's not even what the motherfuckers say. Yeah. The shit is silly. Really, they only go through the headlines. They read that headline. Don't even listen to the shit at all. At all.

At all. People aren't really taught to be like individual thinkers anymore. Like group thinking is the norm now. Group thinking is the, it's life. Where all, social media is a whole platform of group things. Well, I'm saying, that's why people just be like, people, people don't like this person. I don't like this person either. It's almost like natural to gravitate.

And don't even know why. Yeah. Have no idea why you really truly don't like a person. I have to really digest a lot of a person's shit to say I don't like that individual. And I really don't even come to that conclusion based off anything I see in entertainment. I come to that conclusion based off interactions. Yeah. Energy I've shared with a person.

Because I know that once we get in front of these microphones, you know, some of it is performative. You know what I mean? And I'm never, listen. I get you in trouble too. One thing you need to know about me. Lenard McKelby. I'm going to always be on the side of the broadcaster for the most part. I'm going to always be on the side of the broadcaster.

You know what I'm saying? Because I understand. Anybody. Freedom of speech. But I also understand that people aren't. Yeah. That one time, no, I would disagree with you. Which one, tell me.

The R.A. Linux one? I was on the side of the broadcaster. No, let me take that back. I wasn't on any side in that situation. But what I wasn't going to do is go after that brother. You know why I wouldn't go after that brother, MacG? salute to MacG. I wouldn't go after that brother because I was once him.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So instead of canceling him, let me give him some counsel. You know what I mean? That's respect. Let me hit him up and build with him. But definitely can't agree with how he went about that. He talked to her like, they was home girls or something.

And he's a man. And like, they were just too much. Let's discuss it. I felt like if it's in the music, it's fair game. The problem with MacG went wrong is that wasn't even her lyric. The lyric wasn't, you know, it's somebody fucking you good. the lyric was, if you love me, I'll fuck you good.

That's the actual lyric in the song pop. So number one, he had the lyric wrong. Misinformation. Number two, even if you had the lyric right to get into that conversation, you talk about the song first. Yeah, honestly, that part. That's the biggest issue. He didn't even bring it up.

He just like, yeah, so somebody, that's like very inappropriate. Somebody fucking you could? Wait, what? I wouldn't want to do. I wouldn't cancel all interviews, though. I think that was a bit extreme. By the way, and it's not my place to tell that man whether he was right or wrong because what I think doesn't matter.

Ari thought it was wrong. Right. And that's all that it boils down to. You know what I'm saying? Ari thought it was wrong. Ari, that's who matters in that situation. Not the people on social media, not the listeners of your podcast. If the person you're talking to was offended.

You know, you got to make that right. And I saw him. He was on Van's podcast, How You're Learning with Rachel. and Rachel Lindsay, and he apologized, and he gave a sincere apology. I'm not mad at that brother, man. And the reason I'm not mad at that brother, because I was one son, you know how much dumb shit I fucking said?

Of course y'all do, because y'all remind me of it all the got there. Okay? No, there's a whole generation of people that I like, that want to be little minion Charlemains, and it's so sad to see. No, seriously, like, I was interacting with some people and someone said some stupid-ass shit, and then they looked at me because they know we're affiliated

and was like, you could tell I really look up to Charlaman because, you know, I'm like, that's not cool. But that's what even, Sue to Maggi, and they call him just South African Charlaman. They say that in South Africa. That's how he got on my radar a long time ago because he would, I guess he would be

saying stuff and I would always get tagged in it. You know what I mean? Like, so this wasn't even my first time hearing of Maggi. So it's like, for me, man, it's like, yo. Hard questions are hard questions. Just knowing how to navigate it, though. He ain't navigate it, right. Yeah.

probably could have asked it. I feel like you're going to ask anything to people. It's just how you say it, tone. How you do? How? That's what make you a professional. You know what I'm saying? But also, I was not, I don't know what the fuck I was doing, guys.

I really don't. Like, it's not like I had a plan for this shit. But I didn't have a plan for it. You know what I mean? We was just having fun. We was all trying to survive. We was just, you know, getting in front of these microphones and we were just living. By the way, Nala, you've been around us long enough to know.

Yeah. It's us. Yes, it is. Yeah. We can't help. Whatever version you get in the phone. It's ours. Yes, yes, yeah.

I really don't know how to be. Now you really are troll. It don't matter. 6 a.m., midnight, Christmas, fucking birthdays. Something happened to you. Me and boyfriend. Fucking, it could be anything.

This nigga is going to. You just went through a break up. Like, this dick is just not going to fuck. But that's not the point. You can be crying. But you could do that with people you know. Like, you could do that with people you know. You can't do that with niggas you don't know.

A lot of it. A lot of it is a defense mechanism for me because sometimes I be uncomfortable. Like, you know, you be around certain energy and you see somebody going through something. If I see somebody crying, I'm like, oh, shit, why they're crying? So I'm... So you're going to make an inappropriate joke.

Just do, at least, I want them to laugh. Something, you know what I mean? Not right now, man. Yeah, if the time would be bad, man. Time and be bad. It does. I mean, we did that to somebody cry right in front of us and we just laughed.

Like, you're like, hey, that shit, man. Sometimes it helped. Who I forgot too. Who was talking to? Oh, Lord, that's Duvall, though. Anybody got no worse than to Duval? Yeah, yeah, they got no time for that shit. Yeah, he's thinking so crazy.

But by the way, we're all like that with each other. Yeah, yeah, those let me just cry. I've had some traumatic experiences and broke down in front of them as grown men. Exactly. He knows exactly what I'm talking about. See, that thing, cry. That's bad. See, and that's why men are scared.

That shit ain't funny, man. That's why you got to be easy. Watch who you cry in front of. Right now, Michael Jordan cried, and his face is all over. How fucked up is that? And I didn't cry for that. I was crying for a reason. I was crying for something somebody that did to me, man.

But still. And I wasn't even crying. I wasn't. The thing is when you were in that is when you tell the story as to why you're sad, it don't be sounding like it's real. It sounds like you're trolling. Like, it's not like you just make that shit. It does.

Who fault is that? The guy who called Wolf all the time. Yeah, like that shit does not sound real. You'd be like, like this. That's. My life was crazy. What I'm supposed to say? My life is crazy.

That's why some people's life turns into a movie. Because my shit was crazy. That shit was insane. Are you going to include that in the movie? No. I'm never telling that story. You really should, though. No way, Jose.

That shit was crazy. Oh, my gosh. No, that shit was stupid. But whatever, man. And you added to the story and shit? That was new this morning. No, it wasn't. I bet you waxed heard all that.

Yep, that was a new edition. I never heard you say that. I know when you lying because I know It has some extra stuff I heard the extra sauce Yeah but you know the real story We got to know the story No

We got a real story I can't do it in control Real story is stupid That's not the real story Real story is stupid It is a real story but it had a little bit of sauce too Yeah that's what it's always This is some new shit That that Tupac in the top shit is new

I ain't tell you that No I knew that though Oh he said that You know I'm saying I know that This shit is really good. I can't keep up with his lies. That's the right.

It's not a lie. I can't keep up with his life. He's the guy. Yes, we can. They can speculate. No, yeah, fuck that. Yeah, fuck them. Just know that.

Yeah. Yes. Let's do some asking idiots, man. What woman? Oh, my God. Out of control. Once again, y'all keep treating me like I'm motherfucking Rafiki and the Lion King. Like, I don't be on here telling you how this shit is going to go in life.

That's the problem with. with having clarivoyance and having a sixth sense, I be seeing shit, and the shit sounds crazy and silly until it actually happens. Headline, woman opens up about being gang raped in the metaverse. Did we not have a whole discussion about meta, me too, on this podcast weeks ago?

Yeah, we did actually. I told y'all that that shit was about to go down. It's wild. So when I tell you, Wax going to get his butt pitched in the metaverse, just know who. Wax going to be able to fight in the metaverse. You're going to look stupid. How?

You in the metaverse? I'm fighting the box. I haven't looked at the story, but I don't even understand how that's possible because they don't have the body suits out yet, right? Don't be a virtual rape apologist. No, no, no, I just don't.

How did it happen? Don't be a virtual rape apologist. Y'all already, you know, because y'all already and we was on talking about it today and somebody was like, take the glasses, just take the glasses off. No, no, no, but isn't it supposed to be full body suits? I heard.

That's how, like, I think that. They're going to fill everything. But they didn't come out yet. So that's why I'm confused as to how did it happen if she don't even got a suit. Wow. You sound like you asked her, what were you wearing? No, that's not right. Wow.

You are technically. No, I'm not saying. Technically, you're trying to figure out what she was wearing to call that to happen. Because how do you get raped virtually? I'm not on there. I don't have the headsets. I don't know. Listen, you can definitely get harassed on there virtually.

Yeah, you can definitely get harassed. You can talk. It's people talking to you. You can get harassed online. You can harass on the video again. People, you're already, we're used to that. Remember what I told y'all? Y'all niggas going to jail.

Shee. Okay. But is it jail in real life or jail? Jail in real life? Because it's going to be like minority report where they lock you up for what you thought. And minority report, they used to lock you up for what you thought about doing. And if y'all thought that that's saying, it's the thought that counts meant something before. Wait until that mother, wait until that shit happened.

They're going to be locking people up for that shit, yo. They're going to be locking people up for, think about if you, if you're part of a hate group, right? You're somebody who hates the president or you're somebody who, you're somebody who, hates the religious group or you're somebody that hates a race. Imagine you and your cronies all together with your little avatars having meetings in the Metaverse

about the people y'all hate and the things y'all want to do to these people. You're going to jail. That's Instagram. People doing all that they got groups in Facebook like crazy. Going to jail. Facebook is all the control with that type of shit man. Like don't fuck with cats. What was I? What was I?

What was I don't fuck with cats? It wasn't it started as a Facebook group. When I posted a video, of somebody killing the cat, and then the Facebook group got mad, and, like, they tracked him down the guy who was killing cats. Then he, like, skint the cat or something? This has nothing to do anything.

All right, come on, ask the idiot. Asking an idiot. Yes. What's what we got, Taylor? Oh, I like this one. I'm going to go back up. Said J.R. said, I don't know what fuck.

Yeah, said J.R. 91 says, do you guys realize your New York bias when it comes to Jay Z, versus Luther Wayne and the versus. I am from South Carolina, sir. Naila is from Germany. I'm from Georgia. Yo.

Okay? Yes. Lacks is from Jersey. I am. None of us are from New York. I can say that I could, I was just more relatable to Hove. That's why I saw, that's why I go out. I go to more relatable people.

I give little Wayne his props all the time. Little Wayne is a whole monster. Yes. And we really don't even have discussions about Wayne the way that we should. Yeah. You know, because we always look at him as an MC, but Little Wayne has done something that I admire, and I always say to me, this is a testament of your greatness.

When you're truly great, when you're truly a legend, how many other legends can you breathe? He gave us Nikki Minaj. He gave us Drake. Tiger had a good run, too. Tiger's still a star, but when you give the game two superstars, forget superstars, because the word superstar just mean, like, popular. When you give them two legends, two cultural music,

icons. To me, it puts you on a different level. Yeah. So to me, Wayne has done things that a lot of guys that we consider great, a lot of guys that we consider goats, have it done. Yeah. With that said, I respect Wayne in a lot of ways. He just ain't fucking with Hove when it comes to music. And Hobo also has Jay Cole. And Little Wayne also has Jay Z lyrics tattooed on him. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, ugh. But he said and Rihanna? No, Kanye.

Oh, Kanye. I mean, you got to give Kanye. Oh, yeah. Jay gets credit for Kanye, but you still got to give that to Dane. But, I mean, Jay has a lot of people. Jay got Memphis Bleak. Jay got Beanie Siegel. Jay got, you know, you can put Kanye under there.

You can put Jay Cole, Rihanna. Cole, Rihanna and Kanye, though, top three that really hit. And those are super, super stars. That's the same reason. I rank Yee so high. Yay gave us a lot of stars. Yay gave us Cuddy. Big Sean, John Legend.

He resurrected Common. He resurrected Pushy T. When he didn't resurrect Pushy T. He introduced Pushy T as a solo artist. You got to give Kanye a lot of credit. You know what I mean? But when we talk about that versus 20 for 20, I just don't think Little Wayne has a 20.

Those are just not the two I want to see together. No, that's not the one. I think Little Wayne and T.I. is the one. And I think y'all need to stop fronting on Clifford Harris as well. We're not clout. We're not front in the home. I mean, I like, not Little Wayne, though. I think Little Wayne.

I don't think Little Wayne, T.I. T.I. got some dope shit. You know, I like a whole lot of D.I. T.I. Yeah, I did my top seven. And who would be good with Tia? Lil Wayne is, like, really up there. I don't, no, I don't think Wayne got songs as good as Tia.

20 records? I'm not trying to hear Wayne versus T. Mm-mm. Y'all sleep on Tia. That's why I really need TI to do a version. Nah, you probably do that. T. T.I.

would be dope with, um. Who's in that era? Yeah, Ti-I do. That era was T.I. Wain and Gizi. Jeezy, ludicrous. T.I. Ludacris. Nelly.

T.I. Luda would have been good. T.I. would have won that one, too. Yeah. Y'all really sweep on Tia. Yeah. You know. I'm just, I'm just going to name some songs from Tia. Live your life with Rion.

Whatever you like. Whatever you like. Dead and Gone with Justin Timberlick You're not even naming the good ones A-Sat I haven't got to that You name it's my point Keep going

That's my point I ain't even got to bring them out yet I ain't even got the rubber band man I ain't even got to A-Sap yet I ain't even got to what you know about that I ain't even got to You might see me in the street nigga you don't know me

Why y'all playing with Tim? Who would you do TIA and who I'm not gay No I'm not gay Why would I do either one of those men? Well, would you like to... What do you mean?

What are you talking about? I don't know who Tia will go against. Would you ever say T.I. N.J? I'm going to be honest with y'all. There's nobody T.I. can't go against in the versus. Y'all are fronting. Y'all are acting like T.I.

Y'all acting like... I'm just saying, like, what I want to see or what I'd be excited to hear. I'm not excited to see TIA. I'm not excited to TIA. I'm not. Listen, we ain't even doing the hood shit like motivation. Nah, he got some... We ain't doing the hood.

Like, stand up. But who's a good opponent? Who's a good opponent? It ain't Wayne. I listen to the whole trap music. Like, this shit is fine. Trap music was classic. Yeah.

Look what I got. Those are album cuts. I think it would have been him and Jeezy, honestly. That would have been fine. I think it should have been TIA. That would have been a great one. That would have been a good one. I'm just telling y'all people would be talking about T.I.

Like, T.I don't have bona fide smashes, bro. T. T.I. Respect it. Like, like, like, like, like. Like, I'm serious is a great album. You know what I mean? But I wouldn't bring that into this equation.

You know, I mean, there's records on I'm serious that I love. Like, dope boys in the trap, you know, still ain't forgave myself. Tell me, what's your name? Visley Bible number one, shit like that. But let's start with trap music. From trap music to urban legend, the king. Oh. The paper trail.

Why are y'all playing with TI? You forgot about it. Let's get away. Hey, let's get away. You can't get a room on the other side of town. Hey, baby, I've been thinking in you. Why y'all playing with Tim, man?

I am sick at this T.I. disrespect. I hate it. That was a good one. The T.I. disrespect is maddening to me. There's a trap. That whole shit was just. That was what we grew up on.

Who wouldn't be? I don't know. I think Gizi. It should have been T.I. and Gizi. Ti and Gizi would have been great, but they too good of friends. What about T. T.I. 50. I was just about to say that.

Oh, but 50 don't. I don't. 50 got some, come on. I don't know. I think that Tia will win. You fucked me up too. I think Tia would win.

I think Tia would win that. I do. 50 got some nice shit. It would be a, listen, that's actually, that's why, when that was,

when that conversation was happening, and people was acting like, it wouldn't even be close. I'm like, yo, are y'all crazy? I think the first 10 Tia, 50 would be really intense.

Like, ooh, but because it's 20. But 50 got some shit, though, because you got to think about all this stuff, 50, right? So 50 going to bring in all them game,

records that he wrote. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Them shit he wrote, like, you know, so seductive on them hooks, them Lloyd Bank and, like, 50's on a lot of shit. That would be a great, great versus. But another thing that's dope about TI's music is aged very well. I listen to that right now.

50s too, though. Yeah. Yeah. You still hear PIN and get excited. You still hear Wasting and get excited. It brings you back in a good way. Yeah. I got Ti-I.

Looking these young kids right now listen to it and still rock with it. Hell yeah. 50 cent. For millennials, 50 cents is the rapper that put them into rap. People think I'd be tripping when I got TI in my top five top. So I got the top seven favorite rappers of all time. It's Ghost Face Killer, Nassia Jones, Scarface, JZ, GZ, T.I and Killer Mike. I was still like a Nause one.

A Nause what versus? Yeah. That's cool. I know nobody. I ain't mad at that. Nobody wants to do that. How do you feel about Buster and Eminem? Buster will wash Eminem.

That's going to be a lot of energy. All you Eminem stands. Eminem stands hate me online. That's going to be a lot of energy. Buster rhymes would wash. But do you think it's all about performance? Because Eminem clearly has the figure record. Buster's different, bro.

Eminem, let me see. Well, I think the demo matters too. No, that's pretty much like the same era for the most part. That's pretty much the same era for the most part. Yeah, that's the same error. Yeah, but I think by default, if it's the common versus, demo, they're not going to be team buster. The common versus demo, what you mean?

Yeah, like, Eminem is massive and has so much success because he's a white rapper, including the white fans that he has. I don't know if mad white people are tuning in the versus. But that ain't what versus is about. Versus is cultural. And that's what people need to realize. Versus is all cultural. That's why that's why Luda could beat a Nelly in a versus.

You know what I'm saying? Because Luda got cultural records that he was playing against Nellie's big poppits. that meant more to culture. You know what I mean? And I love Nellie's joints, but Nellie is a big mainstream artist. Don't get me wrong, Luda had super success too. But when Luda plays shit like,

ho, ho, use a ho. That's our shit. That's cultural shit that Nellie might not have nothing for. You know what I mean? No, Eminem is one of the greatest rappers ever, most successful rapper ever by far, whether it's skin color or not who gives a fuck. most successful rapper.

But man, Buster Rhymes versus M&M, stop. I guess a while else too. Stop. Name the 20 M&M songs. He's going to play against Buster. I mean, I think when it gets to 20, Buster's going to have a hard time. How?

Buster Rhym that's been around since it's leaders of the new school? Yeah, but 20 hits, though. Yes. He has good songs, but 20 hits? Yes. Just name them. You name T.I's easy. Well, I had to Google.

Hands in my eyes, you see. But we don't even got to go. Let's, let's, let's talk. Let's start with scenario. Oh, yeah. Okay. Let's start with scenario. Let's start with Tribe Call Quest.

Oh, my God. Let's go back to things like features like Flavin' you hear, remix. That is a good one. You know what I'm saying? Let's go back to stuff like that. Like, we didn't even get, we didn't even get to him as a solo artist. Yeah. Before we get to the features.

Him and motherfucking Rick James shit's fire. Huh? Busting and Rick James got one? Yeah, Bustin and Rick James got a fucking song. It's fire. Certain people you can't play with. You think it's going to be more impactful than like an M&M Rihanna joint. What M&M Rihanna joint?

Nobody want to hear that shit in the person? I'm not turning up to that though. What is that? My fucking be putting his bloody knives in the comments. And like Stan, I was thinking too, like Stan's one of his biggest records. Nobody's turning out to that either. Uh-huh. But he does have ones I like.

Like, I like the D-12 one. These chicks don't even on the name of my band. Like he has one. Please stand up. Buster, man. Give me another one. Give me another one. What the hell is this?

What? Yo. What? Oh, I like this. Positive Peterson says, does Wax like to have his ass treated like a harmonica as it is portrayed by Charlotte? He loves it, actually. Who ever said that?

Remember in the metaverse, everybody's supposed to be pinching your ass. Oh, what's a harmonica? Is it something to you blow? Yeah. It is actually. So what pinch you got to do with blowing? I don't know. Let's ask Carla.

It don't matter what nigg is going to do with that ass. Don't worry about what nigg's doing with that ass in the metaverse. Okay, in the metaverse, that ass don't. belong to you no more, okay? All right. That metaverse ass gonna be different for you, Wax. Niggers can't wait.

As soon as you make your avatar. That's all you made. Really? Yeah, my shit dope, too. What's the name? Um, he's gonna know he's gonna be Wax King. Oh, yeah.

It's all now. What the hell? I gotta want me this real. Now, we only do one more when we're out. Uh, okay, let's end with this. Nick Dominiki says

How do you know when it's time to stop the side hustle And go all in on the dream Do it today Yeah, you got to follow your heart You might be broke You might be struggling You might be broke, you might be struggling But I feel like the more you do

What's best for you Like what's in your heart It all comes to you Like as soon as I started I mean I'm young whatever But I'm going on a great track But as soon as I started doing things that I won, even if it was a pay cut.

Like, I remember I worked for free instead of taking a job that was going to pay me like $90,000. But I did that and now I'm like, I'm wake up and I'm happy with what I'm doing. Like when you're doing shit that doesn't make you happy just to get by, just to maintain the life you think you need to maintain, you're really miserable. But when you do things that make you happy, like everything else comes like people, you meet people that make you happy. Yeah, side hustle usually be the thing that you like.

Yeah. Do it today. You know the thing about dreams? And I got a chapter in my first book called Fuck your dreams if it's not your dream. And that's basically saying like, you know, we see things working for other people. And so we embrace it and we act like it's our dream,

but it's really not. It's something that somebody else is doing. The thing about your dream, like the thing that, you know, really changes your life is that thing nobody can change your mind on. You know what I'm saying? That thing that nobody can understand

why you love it so much and it's not for them to understand. You ain't going nowhere. What happened? No, you're getting on my fucking nerves. No, I'm just saying. It's like that thing that nobody can take from you, that thing that nobody can discourage you from,

like that thing that you get up every day and you would do it for free if you had to. Like, that's the dream that's going to ultimately change your life. How did you just flip that into terrible relationship advice? How is that terrible relationship? I was outdone yourself. I was just saying, like, all these girls knowing that the man cheating on them,

but they're not going to leave them no matter what they're not true hang on nothing to do with the dream leave that nigger boo let's not he nervous leave that nigger boo yeah but you don't care about what their friends say they're going still going to still be there so he's like oh he's talking about she's going to leave next to the next week you're going to see them together you know what it's something to do that you got to be stupid you really do got to be stupid about your dream no for real you got to be stupid about your dream but guess what i bet you during holiday time she's going to be there with the kids grandkids and they're going to grow old together maybe because of that and the girl who

say, I'm not taking up with nothing, might not be having great holidays. Let me explain on Wax Point. You might have a dude, right? And he might not be shit for that time. But you see something in him. You see he got potential. You know, he's not a bad dude. He just need to grow to fuck up.

You know what I'm saying? And you might stick it out with him. And that guy might end up being the evolved human that you always wanted him to be. Or he might not. Listen, I know I'm a reformed fuck boy. A lot of niggas do not grow up, though. Well, I know I'm a reformed fuck boy. I am a reformed fuck boy.

I was a fuck boy. When I think about the shit that I used to do and the shit that, man, I was a fuck boy. And I know wax was a fuck boy. No, no, but you know what? I can't really say a fuck boy. You were a fuck boy. You were a fuck boy. Admit it.

We were fuck boys. Stop. No why I can say that? Because I never lied. That is a lie. That is the lie that he's all. that he always tells. And I knew he was going to say that.

That's the lie he always tells. No, why he makes that thing? He turns to the sight of the truth. I had to lie to somebody. You don't think nobody knew who the fuck I was. Why he turns to the side like that? Know how I know I couldn't lie? Because as soon as he seen me with anybody,

he, he'll right away say, you know here, you know why? That's true. You do snitch. You know why? Because when I got out of my fuckboy phase and I was growing and evolving, I was not, I was not.

You be like forcing people to step to the level you are. That's right. That's right. He's like, yeah. That's right. He's getting mad at me. Yeah. You would have been there.

But he's also younger than you. So you don't got a- Not by much. Enough. I taught his ass. That time he called me, thinking I'm going to have to be his wing man. That was fucked up.

Thinking I'm going to be his wing man. I got this girl in the room, y'all. Text me, I got this girl in the room. I need to get her out. I'm going to call you and act like we got to go somewhere. All right. All right. All right.

Because you know why? I answered the phone. I answered the phone. And I thought about lying. And God said to me, You told me you want to change. No, God said to me, God said you told me you wanted to change. God told me you wanted to do better.

So you had to make him do it? That's right. He knows he's supposed to call. I said, that's a lie. Stop doing that to that girl that you wish. That girl deserves better. I'm like, yo, we're supposed to leave now? Yes.

That is so terrible. That is so bad. I'm like, we don't, let's go. I'm like, we don't have to go anywhere. You need to do better. All right? All right. Young lady, if you can hear me, you should want more for yourself.

All right? Damn, Charlotte. Got to go. How to call somebody else? No, but you are funny about that. Like, once you evolve past something, your tolerance for others around you, you'd be like, unbelievable. You'll be mad at us.

I'd be like, damn, nigger, you're on that path right now. Not me. I'm still. I'm not judgmental with it. You have judgment, but you're like, you apply pressure. Those are boundaries. You have to set back. Here's the thing.

You got to set boundaries with people you love. You help me with the cheating shit. That's why one of the reasons I don't cheat. That's what I'm saying. You're so good. You are. You're doing great, man. Yeah.

I'm amazing now. But you got to set boundaries with people you love if you really love them. Because if you love people and you value the relationship, you don't cut people off. You don't push people away. You set boundaries so y'all all know how to navigate with each other. We all got rules and regulations with each other. You know what I'm saying? And you have to learn that about the people in your life.

Like, that's all. If you don't say nothing to them, you don't get a fuck about them. That's allowed me to. There you go. Y'all allow me to do cracker. Start drinking a lot of liquor and stuff like that. Don't come check on me and curse me out. That's right.

Shit the fuck up. Like, you're doing some dumb shit. And complain, we'd be complaining about you behind your back, gossiping about you behind your back. We don't care about you if that's the case. At all.

You got that nagging friend that always tell you about yourself and you know it's wrong. That's the one I really care. Salute to, Salute to Dr. Nadra to while. We're about to get out of here, but salute to Dr. Nader.

She's going to be on breakfast club soon, but she has a book called Setting Boundaries, finding piece. Actually, where my book bag at? My book bag over here? Hand me the book. Hand me the bag. I want y'all to get this.

This is a very important book. There's two books that I recommend to everybody. It's the unapolog-you-out, NYLA? All right. Love you. Peace. See ya. You're about to beat bounce right now, but this book right here,

I always recommend the unapologetic guide, the Black Mental Health by Dr. Rita Walker. And I recommend this book, Nadra Glover-T-Wav. Set Boundaries, Find Peace, a guide to reclaiming yourself. This book is so incredible. It's not on Black Privilege. She's already a New York Times bestseller.

I just think this book is so dope, and everybody needs to add it to their repertoire because we have to learn how to set boundaries in our motherfucking lives. All right? I got to go to. We got another run to make. But as always, if you listen to this podcast, make sure y'all go to the Bullying the Beast live show this Saturday.

Where is it at? A caveat in New York City. Caviot at New York City. 7 p.m. Yes. Some limited tickets left. Yes. Limited tickets left.

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