The Brilliant Idiots - Hall Of Shamers

Starting point is 00:00:00 Yep, Shalamanagat. Andrew's show. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hasakaya Walker, you survived the blizzard. I survived the blizzard, man. How did you feel to survive the blizzard, man? Both of your kids first blizzard.

Starting point is 00:00:14 Yeah. I mean, no, we only took one out. No, and Shiloh. Shiloh was on the snow before. I'm about to say, the one you took out, I thought would have been Shiloh. You took to what you mean? Well, you said both survived. I assume you thought that we took them to the park or something.

Starting point is 00:00:27 Yeah. Yeah, we took one to the park. She was there for like five minutes. She was like, you know, take me home. Nah, too fucking cold. It was great. Nobody got time for that shit. Was your whole house?

Starting point is 00:00:34 Because you have like a house with land and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Do you still live in Jersey? Yeah. Wow. What you mean? Do I still live in Jersey?

Starting point is 00:00:45 Where are you moving, bro? I'm not moving nowhere. Hey, where are you moving? I am not moving nowhere. I have no reason to move. There was a post about where you were going to go. Do me? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:00:54 Where? I don't know. They said that you had some like, like, like, yacht being built in Amsterdam. And get the fuck out of here. I don't know where you have. Life shit. You gotta live on a boat to avoid taxes and just avoid. I live a nice, great life in Jersey, and there was a lot of snow.

Starting point is 00:01:08 Let me tell you something about snow, man. Tell me something about snow. Tell me something about snow. That is a moneymaker that kids are not taking fucking advantage of. Kids aren't taking it? No, all of that motherfucking snow. Listen, I went outside because I had to fucking clean behind the garage, right? Because I'm like, shit, I got a clear path for my fucking wife and myself to get out.

Starting point is 00:01:28 So I'm out there, and I'm like, why the fuck? Are you fucking my doing this? Can I tell you, keep going, keep going. I'm just out there. This is my- I'm shoveling, I'm shoveling. I finally get a path, so I back up just to make sure I can get out, back up to make sure my wife get out.

Starting point is 00:01:41 Man, about 20 minutes later, the fucking plow truck pulls up. Full of the munchkins. Shout out to the munchkins, man. What do you mean? The ones that built the yellow brick fucking road, man. What? They pulled up in the plow truck with the shovels, and they all right. I was like, S-A!

Starting point is 00:02:02 S-A! S-A! You are welcome here. I don't go to fuck about what's going on in America, man. Please, can you help me with the ice? It's like, ice. No, no, no. The snow over there by the garage. So they just came randomly.

Starting point is 00:02:19 You didn't call them or anything. No, they pulled up in the plow truck. I mean, the neighborhood we live in, they pull up anyway. But when I tell you that 20 minutes, they pulled up, and it was a plowed truck full of mechral. And when I asked them to clean in front of that garage, when I tell you that garage, yo, not only did they use the plow truck, they hopped out with shovels, bro. So you're saying, you're saying kids aren't getting after it anymore.

Starting point is 00:02:43 But that's how you know you live in a nice neighborhood. All those kids got trust funds. They're not trying to-so-so-so-off. I don't see that nowhere, though. Like, I don't see nobody getting to it. And, yo, you got the shovels now that I got the electric blowers. When was last time you were in just like a regular neighborhood? All the time.

Starting point is 00:02:58 And they still shoveling them? No. Yes, they are. I ain't seen it. I saw it. You did? Yeah. For money? No, in Brooklyn, yeah. Oh, good. Good. Shout out. Go off from house to house. Yeah. It looked. Thank God. Because that's, I, that's, I can't, I look at all I saw. That snow looked like how cocaine looked probably to Jeezzy back in. Ooh. There's just money. Yeah. Get that, get the fucking shovel, get to it. They got the electric snow that you can hit the snow. That's the other thing. They got all the technology to make it easier. Come on, man. I love it. I love it. They should be getting to the money. But another thing I I appreciate. Snow when it first falls. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:33 After that, it's trash. Yeah, it's got like a day. A day. You got a day. That's it. Especially in the city. At least in the burbs, you get a few more days.

Starting point is 00:03:41 No, it's nasty in the burbs. Really? Yeah. The backyard is just full of beautiful white snow. Well, that's different. Yeah, the backyard is untouched. Yes, yes, yeah. But anytime it gets touched by the plow truck and everything and it starts to pile up

Starting point is 00:03:53 and it's dirty. Oh. And we got about two more weeks of that. Especially in the city. And now it's cold. So all the snow. But shout out to all the Mexicans, man. Y'all are appreciated.

Starting point is 00:04:04 Shout out to all, man. I don't give a fuck about what they're saying. We need y'all. Man. I mean, we love them just because of who they are. But when I tell you that they were right on time, I mean, I was like, yo, man, thank y'all, man. How much they charge? Full driveway?

Starting point is 00:04:22 Well, I don't know, you know. Because they're part of the service already. They came in the plow truck. I was like a homeowner's association. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I did think about that. I thought about that after they lived, I was like, damn, I should have gave them some fucking bread.

Starting point is 00:04:37 But it was too cold to go outside. You ain't tip them, son. That's crazy. I was already back in the house. That's crazy. Now I was already back in the house. I got them when they come back in the new right here. I got them again.

Starting point is 00:04:47 Wait, you need to get. They come through all the time. You know no more. That was the last snow. They come through all the time. My neighborhood always got the Latinos and the Mexicans. They do the yard work. They do the snow.

Starting point is 00:04:58 You know. You're not going to recognize which one. was there. You are snitching right now. Exactly. You know Fox News listens to his podcast. You know what was great, but. That shit happened to me in the nail salon, bro. And that was fucked up. Wait, you thought you were getting your nails done by a girl and was a different girl? No, no, no, no. You just got to, you got to pay attention when you go to the nail salon. Because sometimes you're going there and you're getting your pedicure and you're not really paying attention. Bro. Can I tell you an honest? Please tell me an honest start.

Starting point is 00:05:23 All right. So my wife wanted to get Shiloh's nails done with her, like a little bonding experience. Man, tell me why. We went in there. I started talking to the girl about like what color I wanted to show those nails to be. And she let me get through the whole sentence.

Starting point is 00:05:37 And then she goes, I don't work here. That's fucking profiling. You did profile. That's fucking. You're standing right by the desk. That's profiling like a motherfucker. By who?

Starting point is 00:05:50 And why would she let me get through the whole thing? Was she Asian? Say yes. She was Asian? No. She wasn't Asian? Yeah. What do you mean?

Starting point is 00:05:57 No. Yeah, okay. Why would you assume that? Okay. That's fucked up you were assuming. Okay. Of course you was fucking Asian. Listen.

Starting point is 00:06:05 Yeah. I'm in there getting a pedicule. Half falling to sleep, half on my phone, half falling asleep, half on my phone. The pedicule's over. I put my shoes on and I go to get a manicure. And all I kept thinking was, this ain't the same person that gave me the pedicure. They know it too. But then I said to myself, I'm not sure this is the same person that gave me a pedicule.

Starting point is 00:06:26 I promise you, they're coordinating and they're like, yo, we're going to switch you. I guarantee he won't know. So all I kept thinking to myself was like, all right, fuck. It's forward him in here. I'll just tip all of them. So I don't look like. I don't know what the fuck.

Starting point is 00:06:41 This is his little tip redemption story. Yeah. We're supposed to leave you. I don't believe the fucking man. Cheaper to be racist. But not the guy who's just scooping the snow out of you. But I didn't tip all of them. Because I finally realized how to tell them,

Starting point is 00:06:56 how to tell them apart in that moment. How? They had on different April. So it was different color aprons. And I'm like, I was going through my memory. It was the brown apron. Boom. The blue apron is doing my manicure.

Starting point is 00:07:07 Got it. So it's like power wangers. Ha ha. That's good, man. My kids have the thing going on in that. That was good, man. Mighty Asian power wangers. It's cool.

Starting point is 00:07:31 Rays. The mighty Asian power wagers. Sorry, Chris. We don't have to talk about just people like this, that's okay. We only do it because you're in the room. Of course, of course.

Starting point is 00:07:42 No, wouldn't be appropriate. That was crazy. The mighty Asian power wangers is fucking. That was crazy. Dude, we got to brand that. We can't do that. That's cultural appropriation. We can't do that.

Starting point is 00:07:53 Culture appropriation. Isn't mighty Asian power wangers are thing? No, because there would be a flip on it. The mighty morphine power rangers were our thing, but the mighty Asian power wages would be a wave. I don't feel right out. No, I feel like, I feel like that's called.

Starting point is 00:08:08 I feel like somebody aging should let Eddie Hong do that. Let Eddie Hung do that show. Yeah. Or start an actual. Yeah. Chris, write a fiction novel. Or open a salon. You can solve this problem that Charlemagne has every time he gets his damn.

Starting point is 00:08:23 No, it was just this one time. I was so confused. These people are so nice to me, but this shit really had me confused. And I felt. For a pedicure. 20? 20. Is that customary?

Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah, 20. I give them 20. How much does that cost? I don't even know. If it's the same person that does my manicure and pedicure, 40. Okay. Two different people, I give me 20 a piece. That's good.

Starting point is 00:08:43 Absolutely. Wow, that's a great tip. Yeah, that's the standard. Even when I get a massage, same thing. 20. You would get a foot massage or you get your whole body yourself? Oh, everything. Oh, they do your scalp now too?

Starting point is 00:08:53 Oh, my God, man. Oh. Oh. What? Why do you a massage? right now. I go to massage invi, though. I don't go to no place fancy. Not that I go to massage in because I got mad points at massage in me. So, like, all my massages are free. They have the same person or it rotates? Nah, rotate them because I can't

Starting point is 00:09:14 never remember nobody. You don't know. Can I ask you? Can I ask you all question? What if, have you guys ever went for a legitimate massage and then they tried to give your happy ending? Illigimate. No. I'm like, where all these lucky motherfuckers that? Everybody always be talking about these happy endings and shit? I've never had. one offered ever in life. I got a friend who like, the way that he framed stories is everything happens to him. Right. Yeah, he never, he never goes for it.

Starting point is 00:09:40 He's never going for anything. The life is always happening to him. And he said, he was like, dude, I was just getting a regular massage. And then all of a sudden she went up the leg and then she like just took a stroke. And I was like, well, what did you do? And he's like, and I, you know, I didn't want to let her down or whatever. And so he just didn't want to embarrass her. Yeah, you didn't want to embarrass her because, like, that is a big move.

Starting point is 00:10:03 That's a big move. That's, like, that means that that's normal to her. Like, that's part of the body. Yo, he said this. He was like, he's, she did. How big is your friend's dick? Because you said, like, you did the fucking long shrunk. Yeah, I gave him a long.

Starting point is 00:10:17 That was crazy. He said he did this. He was like, he goes, she tried it really early in the massage. And he had an hour. And what he said is, like, let's just do that more towards the end. Because he's so cute that he's like, I am wanted to jerk me out of here five minutes because now I'm losing. You want to get the full?

Starting point is 00:10:34 Where was this place? I'm not telling. Where is this fucking masseuse? I'm not telling you. I don't believe them. That's never, has never happened to you, Chris? Me? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:45 Now, if I go to those places, they generally say, like, do you want a man or a woman? And I say man, because I feel like when you say woman. Man, Chris, you never be in allegations, man. From who? From who, you? They always happen if you want to have a woman, Chris. That's a normal thing to ask. For a massage, you always go with women.

Starting point is 00:11:05 Which allegations am I beating right now? Because I feel like this just... I think that just shifted. They go to Taiwan for ladyboy allegations. Well, that one I can beat because there are no lady boys in Taiwan. What is it? Thailand. Thailand.

Starting point is 00:11:19 There you go. You don't think... Hold on. You're telling me that you think ladies boys are 100% idiosyncratic to Thailand. There's no lady boys in all the time. Taiwan. I would guess there are women. So Lady Boy is a man who dresses as a woman. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. They're not called. You never hooked up with a lady boy and she hits you with that tuck sauce. Nah, not yet. I thought it's a big. I thought a lady boy. I thought. Still time. I thought. I thought

Starting point is 00:11:47 actually looks like a lady. They do. Right? That's what I thought. What you said tux? You said tux sauce? That's what happened is a lady boy nuts when she hits you with the tux sauce. I'm going to say. That sauce is so crazy That sauce is so crazy That sauce is so crazy Shout out to all the lady boys in Thailand We appreciate you listening You know what I like about the

Starting point is 00:12:10 Thailand ladyboy culture Is it so normalized They don't try to trick you Right They would net like They know what you're there for Well exactly They know people are going for that

Starting point is 00:12:20 So if anybody asks are you ladyboy They'll be like yeah I'm ladyboy Like they just say it straight up You don't go in pizza hut And they try to turn the pizza into a hamburger, disguised the pizza, put a bun on the pizza. You know what I'm saying? You know what the fuck's you going in that for?

Starting point is 00:12:32 He tried. He tried. I was all for you talking about here. It's true. You go to fucking Thailand. You know what you're there for? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You walk in pizza and you know what you're there for.

Starting point is 00:12:45 Nobody put a bun on the pizza and say, here's a hamburger. Yeah, yeah. I'll try to act like that. You know what you're here for? Yo, so here's the question. Is that gay? Is a lady boy gay? If you went with a lady boy, would that be gay on your part?

Starting point is 00:12:58 Yeah. Sure, why not? Because if you want a man, wouldn't you, it's the most straight of gay. No. If you're a dude like lady boys. No. On a spectrum of gay. No.

Starting point is 00:13:12 That's, you're barely gay. Like, if I was a gay dude and I saw a dude going with lady boys up there, you're not even committed. Bro, there's no dick on the spectrum. There's no dick on the spectrum. Say what? There is no. dick on this spectrum. No, I'm saying. If there's a dick there, it's gay. Okay, I get it. Which is fine. I get it. What I'm

Starting point is 00:13:32 saying is if there's a spectrum of gay, right? And this is the beginning. Right? The beginning is lady boy. That's the beginning. And then the end of the spectrum is like some fucking burly chest hair, back hair, bear. No, I would think the beginning of the spectrum would be a trans that did the actual surgery. That's a lady boy. No, lady boys got... No, a trans that did the surgery is the most straight of the gay because they don't even got the parts.

Starting point is 00:13:59 They got the GMO thing, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but it's like... If they're the dick, brother. If there's a dick involved, it takes you further down there. Here's a question then. On that spectrum, what's more gay? Being with a lady boy or a threesome two guys and one woman?

Starting point is 00:14:15 Yo. What happened now? What's with a Christmas? That's a good scenario. You say tough sauce, his mouth start walking. He just threw out a good one. I know, that's a good one. Are you fucking the guy too?

Starting point is 00:14:27 No. No, you just in the room, you see hard dick that's near you. Because you said a dick is what makes it gay. So if it's a three- So you and a dude, you and another dude are running a trizzy, right? It's only gay if you and the guy are doing the sexual act together. That's what makes it gay. Like, if y'all aren't doing anything with each other, that's not gay.

Starting point is 00:14:45 All right, so you don't touch the- But if you don't touch the lady boy's dick, the lady boy just gives you head as that gay. Yeah. Yeah. Anything with a dick does something sexual with you and you got to...

Starting point is 00:14:56 I agree. What I'm saying is I don't know if gays would put respect on your name. Like, if you're like, yo, I'm gay. I fuck lady boys. They'd be like,

Starting point is 00:15:03 that's the gateway drug. It's like saying you're a drug addict but you do nicotine. You make a good point. I don't believe Chris's analogy, though,

Starting point is 00:15:10 two guys in the room with a girl, that's not... No. Unless the two guys that have sex with you. It's more... All right,

Starting point is 00:15:16 how about this? It's more straight to be one guy, two girls. That's more, like, more. Yeah, that's, that's happy New Year. That's happy New Year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But two guys, one girl is less straight. We have to acknowledge that. I don't think that.

Starting point is 00:15:31 That's like being in the gym locker room with a guy with guys. That's less straight. That's less straight. So I've never played sports, so that makes, so if you've been in the locker room with guys. If you're doing sexual things in a locker room with men walking around naked, I would say that that's less straight. Are you doing sexual things with the men? If you jerk it off by yourself in a locker room full of dudes, yeah, you're just jerking off. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's the last three. That's great. We got to deport you.

Starting point is 00:15:52 That's crazy. That's crazy. Jerking off. Like, you whip your dick out and start jerking off in a men's locker room. That's crazy now. You don't think people have done that? I'm sure. That's crazy.

Starting point is 00:16:05 Listen, it is crazy. And we would look at that person and like, yo, this is a little suss. But what if he's like, dude, I'm not even thinking about you guys. I'm just thinking about girls right now. Yeah, man. I don't know how that works. What if he's like, yo, it just helps me last longer knowing y'all are here. but I'm thinking about women

Starting point is 00:16:23 so I'm just using you guys as like a numbing buffer See man this is why you need like these are the type of prinks that y'all not doing that you're doing it. No for real y'all doing a lot of whack pranks online walk into a male locker room. Start cranking. Whip it out

Starting point is 00:16:37 and start yanking that thing. Hold a straight porno and just see what people do. Do what people do like you're jerking off to a straight porno. You're not even looking at them. They're looking at you. They're the gay ones. I would say arguably they're we got to ask a gay. We gotta ask gay how they feel about dudes

Starting point is 00:16:53 to hook up with lady boys. Mateo! You, for real. I bet you Mateo would be like, I don't think it's gay. You've seen the video of the guy that walks up to people in the mall or some shit

Starting point is 00:17:03 and hands him a note and he'll be handing guys that's like meet me in the bathroom for some head. That shit is funny as fuck. Because one dude who was like... No, that he was into it. Yeah, and he saw the camera. That shit was funny as fuck.

Starting point is 00:17:21 man. All right. What's going on in the world, Chris? What do we got? What's going on, man? We're just warming up here. Ray J. What does that say? Ray J., what? Stop the drugs. Ray J. Stopped the drugs. Oh, man. Salute to Ray J. man. This is fucked up. So tell us what's happening with Ray J. I saw it. Tragic. Yeah, he got some unfortunate news. He received from doctors due to excessive use of drugs and alcohol. Let's listen to what

Starting point is 00:17:45 Ray J. had to say here, man. In 27 is definitely a rap for me. No, they'll say that brother, don't say that. That's what the doctor said. No, no, no. Because when you say that, you're confirming what the doctor said. No, no, no. No, no, but what they said, buddy.

Starting point is 00:18:00 Guess what? Guess what? You're going to live long to see your children grow up. Yes. Nobody had never told you this. You're going to live long to see your children grow up. Have children too. Who's shit?

Starting point is 00:18:12 No, no. What the doctor told you your time is done, no. Your neighbor is... On the right side right here, it's like, it's like, black. It's like done. He's bringing me coconut water and telling me I gotta go to

Starting point is 00:18:30 Haiti and do some voodoo, which I think I'm going to Haiti. Because I think Haiti and my Haitian, they got the cure. So I'm going to Haiti like in like two weeks. And I'm going to stream it. I'm going to do everything. He said that the doctor told him he's got to 20, 27 to live.

Starting point is 00:18:50 I fucked up, like. Oh, scroll back to go scroll back for? You know why? Because chat Because I thought that Yeah, now go through Yeah He's bringing me coconut water

Starting point is 00:19:05 And telling me I gotta go to Haiti and do some voodoo Which I think I'm going to Haiti Because I think Haiti and my Haitian Niggas, they got the Cure So I'm going to Haiti Like in like two weeks

Starting point is 00:19:19 And I'm going to stream it I'm going to do everything Well, he was having some cardiovascular issues a few weeks ago. I don't know if Ray J's playing or not, you know. It's one of those things where it's like if he's playing is fucked up, but you hope he's playing? Yeah. Because you don't want him to actually be in this situation.

Starting point is 00:19:40 Yeah, but, you know, honestly, if Ray J was to get this kind of news, I think this is how Ray J would handle it. Yeah, I think Ray J is the type person that he'd be like, you know what, whatever God got playing for me, it is what it is. You know, I would hope that, you know, Ray J's not having no real cardiovascular issues, man. He said his heart is only beating 25%. Only beating at 25%.

Starting point is 00:20:02 I don't even know what the fuck that means. I texted him yesterday and told him, take your ass to go see Dr. Joseph Puma, man. You've been to Dr. Puma before? You're not kidding, though. You have been to Dr. Puma. All right. You did the soaring heart scan, bro.

Starting point is 00:20:15 I did, yeah. Yes, at Dr. Puma's office, Dr. Joseph Puma. Oh, I thought you were trying to get me. No, man. He said, you know, Dr. Puma's one of the best cardiologists in the fucking world.

Starting point is 00:20:23 And, you know, I really hope Ray J goes to see him. I would not want to see Ray J, you know, dead in a couple of years. You got to go back and check up. This is the thing that happens when people... I went last week. How was it? I haven't been in a year and a half, so it was dope because, you know, there's been another thing that's been happening a lot. You've been seeing a lot of people getting these brain aneurysms?

Starting point is 00:20:40 What do you think that's from? I don't know. But Dr. Puma does the scan for all of that. What, the scan? No, the brain aneurysms. I have no idea. I think there's a lot of contributing factors. that are happening to people,

Starting point is 00:20:54 and I think a lot of it has to do with stress, and I really think a lot of it has to do with overstimulation. Ooh. I think it's too much overstimulation. I think that there's a lot of things. Our brain and our nervous system is not supposed to be processing. I think that we are shooting excessive amounts of cortisol,

Starting point is 00:21:08 and I think that we are all in more states of stress than we even realize. I actually think stress is a default for many of us nowadays that when we actually feel relaxed and have peace, that shit feels... What? Yeah. That shit feels off like something's wrong.

Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah, we're so used to stress that peace feels abnormal. Woo! Wow. That's what I think. That's terrifying. So I think all the brain aneurysms, the heart, I think on that, on top of all the processed foods and everything else we're eating. Yeah. People not living a healthy lifestyle just by not.

Starting point is 00:21:43 Think about all of the things we have to do just to come back our everyday lives. Did you do screens with your kids? You limit screen time with your kids? Absolutely. 100%. Chris? Well, a little bit. It's one of my Excuse me, one of my regrets I would say, I wish I'd been a little more

Starting point is 00:21:58 Diligent about it. Yeah. It's unbelievable when they really shift to screen. I mean, I had a daughter, I have a daughter, you know, who read books and would fill up journals with short stories she was writing, was incredibly creative, and, you know, putting things out there. And then once the phone came, done, done. Fuck that. Done. Like, why would we want to? something that takes our fucking creativity like that.

Starting point is 00:22:24 Speaking of children, speaking of children, hi, mother, Taylor. Hi. Taylor can't even be here on time. Hi. She got a whole life. Yo, I know you got responses. Taylor don't come to breakfast club no more because she got a whole life.

Starting point is 00:22:39 We're not priority anymore. Watch your coffee right there. Taylor got a whole life. She's a mother. Go, go, go, go. Oh, yeah, you was in the country. You without the country. Where do you go?

Starting point is 00:22:51 I just want a quick little cruise to Bahamas. With the baby and with the... Just me and me and the fiancé. Trying to have another. No, we're not. We're not. We're not already. Damn, that's judgment, Al.

Starting point is 00:23:06 I look, you ain't sure. Ow, that... I don't even know why you were... What do you mean? That was... It seems early. That baby is walking now. That baby dancing on...

Starting point is 00:23:14 You ain't there, Taylor Baby dancing on your... Oh, no. Hell yeah, Taylor Baby was doing the Harlem Shagling on the whole routine. Is that your first vacation? Yeah. How guilty you feel, be honest. I honestly, I didn't feel, I missed him, but I didn't feel guilty. I don't feel guilty for me.

Starting point is 00:23:27 Why should I feel guilty? I worked nine months bringing him in. That's right. And he's with his family, like, he's fine. You do not have to feel guilty at all. I felt guilty. When did y'all get back? We didn't get back till yesterday.

Starting point is 00:23:40 How long was y'all in? We left Thursday to go to Florida, and that's where we took it, and then we came back on Monday. Oh, so you're like six days pregnant. like six days pregnant and don't even know it. No, I'm not. Yeah. Back to back. Six days pregnant and don't even know it.

Starting point is 00:23:58 No, I'm not. Little Pete about to have a sibling. Isn't it nice when you go on vacation without the kids and you realize that you actually like your partner? Yeah, I guess. What do you mean? You guys just hanging out, no interruptions. You're like, man, I love being around you.

Starting point is 00:24:13 This is awesome. Yeah, I asked me, I was like, did you get annoyed with me? He's like, no. He was like, we had a good time. All of that is important, though. Y'all shouldn't be able to enjoy. each other because you want to know that y'all not together just because y'all got kids. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:24:23 You know what I'm saying? We even go out all the time, though. That is important. Like, have our date nights and stuff. That shit is crucial. That shit is crucial. Yeah. Baby.

Starting point is 00:24:30 Date nights is very important. Don't never stop dating your partner. How quickly after, maybe this is too much information, but how quickly after having the baby were you guys intimate again? It takes six weeks. Yeah. You have to wait. You waited six weeks and then six weeks.

Starting point is 00:24:44 Because I remember I had a C-section too. Yeah. So I had to wait. New hole? Whoa. Huh? What? What?

Starting point is 00:24:49 What? Wait, what? Whoa. What? What is what with you? What? What? New hole.

Starting point is 00:25:01 What? New hole. Yo, they zip it back up, man. You can't use that one. You don't get the, oh, you got the permanent zip. You got the permanent or you got the one that you can. No. Really?

Starting point is 00:25:12 Really? Oh, that's crazy. See, that's y'all. Y'all don't ask for it. It's like the in-and-out secret menu. Like, when you go to end and out, you know they got a secret menu, but you got to ask for it. They're not going to tell you about it.

Starting point is 00:25:23 So when you have a C-section, you got to ask for the zipper, yo. Stop asking for the stitches. They put the zipper on the inside, too. About waxing. Do you take a pill first? Hell no. You should. That does wonders.

Starting point is 00:25:38 What you made a pill? Like a painting. Take an ivory, yeah, take an ivory probe from 30 minutes before. It's not, doesn't hurt as much. Mine don't hurt as much no more because she got this new technique that she does. Plus, I go every six weeks. Like, I actually go on tomorrow. So I don't, it's kind of light.

Starting point is 00:25:52 So I don't, I don't wait until it gets thick. When it's thick is when it hurts. What is she? That is a good idea. What is it? No, Furrow, that helps a lot. What's the technique? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:26:00 It's some type of cream. It's powder? Does she put powder? Yeah, she definitely does powder. That's actually a good idea. I might do that shit for real. I got some fucking oxycodded at the house. No, do it.

Starting point is 00:26:11 It's going to. What? You don't do oxy. Yeah, I said, I said ibupin. I have a ibupin or pain reliever. That is actually a good-ass fucking idea, Taylor. It helps a lot. Why the fuck I never thought of it?

Starting point is 00:26:25 I tried to be teated and I was like, okay. What did you do? Like, what's the best thing for when you're getting waxed? How painful? Is it, do you have really deep-roof? Wax hurts for me. But this time I was so happy. I was like, this is great.

Starting point is 00:26:39 Like, it didn't hurt like that. Do you wait? How many weeks do you do waxes? Four weeks? Four? What is it like that week? I do six. Is it crazy at week three?

Starting point is 00:26:48 What is it like in three? I mean, it just starts coming back more. Right. That's it. I'm there tomorrow. I might try that. Why not do the electric shit? The electrolysis.

Starting point is 00:26:57 The laser one? Yeah. I'm thinking about that. The problem is, I think, is just too many sessions, which, I mean, I guess you can. But I was talking to my person that waxed me and she was saying, like, it doesn't always. It doesn't keep it going forever. I don't want the permanence. Like, I reserve the right to change my mind.

Starting point is 00:27:16 Like, I don't like that. I don't like the permanence. I don't want to be like, yo, it's eliminated forever. You know what I mean? Because I might want it in the future. It might be worth something. Like the penny. Y'all, stop throwing your fucking pennies away, yo.

Starting point is 00:27:28 If y'all know the penny's been outlawed, right? Yeah. I hate you trying to be relatable to us normal folks. What you mean? You ain't seen a penny in 10 years. You don't even know what, you don't even know what president is on the penny. The penny. Barack Obama's on the penny, bro.

Starting point is 00:27:44 The fuck is wrong with you. Barack Osain. Obama is on the penny. Don't throw your pennies away. Them shit gonna be worth a lot of money in the future. Do you think so? Yes. Because they stop making it.

Starting point is 00:27:56 I know, they stop. Don't throw them shit away, yo. Keep the penny. Don't they say the same thing? I used to collect those quarters with the different years and stuff like that. Is that worth anything? Well, every year that they put out new quarters. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:28:10 I remember I had that stupid mess. Remember the quarters had a different state. Oh, maybe it's a state. I thought I was doing it by the year. Okay. Either way. You collected them thinking it was going to be more than 25 cents. I thought it was going to be worth more eventually in the future.

Starting point is 00:28:24 Eventually it would. Eventually it would, but not that much. It is not worth. What about Beanie Beanie? That's what I really need to figure out. There's a rare quarter that's worth a lot. They got ones without George Washington having the perm. You didn't know that?

Starting point is 00:28:37 Seriously, some of them have George with the fucking ponytail shit. Some of them don't. And the ones without the ponytail, they say it's worth more. That's crazy, y'all don't miss it. It is crazy. the dudes just wore wigs back in the day. Lady boys. And they had heels.

Starting point is 00:28:53 Who might have been had a first female president and don't even fucking know it. I'm just, I'm saying. Y'all had heels too. Who was wearing heels? Oh, you're right. Yeah, they had those little, little kitty heels. Yeah. That's crazy.

Starting point is 00:29:07 How do y'all transitions. And wooden teeth. You never think about that? Why the fuck they ain't had no teeth, yo? That's another thing. Why wouldn't we have teeth? There was no bad food back in the day. Too many people biting one.

Starting point is 00:29:18 they were sucking. Probably. That's what it was. Probably. Walking around in them hills and them nice wigs with real teeth. Yeah. Get rid of the fucking teeth. And why wooden teeth? What did they use to keep the wooden teeth in place? That was old rumor. It's not real. What's not real? That was George Washington, right, that said they had wooden teeth. That is true. We don't know if that's real. Yeah, he did have slave teeth. Yeah, he did have slave teeth. Yeah. So he took him from his slaves, I guess, and then they made a denture for him. Well, Technology, you got to start somewhere.

Starting point is 00:29:51 Innovation. I mean, it's fucked up, but innovation started somewhere. Can you just wait for your grandpa to die? Grandpa, I've been dead. How old was George when he died? How old did they live back then? They didn't live that long, right? That's a good question.

Starting point is 00:30:03 How old was George Washington when he died? Probably 40 something. I got to look at up. You think 607? That's a long life back then, right? Wait a minute. Yeah. Six, seven.

Starting point is 00:30:14 And he just died naturally? Everything is a fucking conspiracy, bro. Speaking of fucking conspiracies, you know, I usually don't like to start off with incredible sports takes. You know, I know that people love my sports takes, right? Right. The fact that Bill Belichick is not a first ballot Hall of Fame is one of the worst injustices I have ever seen in my motherfucking life. And I am not even a New England Patriots fan. I hate the Patriots.

Starting point is 00:30:51 I am a Dallas Cowboy fan. But I think the Patriots are America's team. me to say that. First of all, they're called patriots and the fact that they're going back in the Super Bowl, they're one of the greatest dynasties ever. He did not get voted in as a first ballot Hall of Famer. Okay. The Hall of Fame means nothing now. So here's the thing that's quite interesting. Is he an example? And now he didn't play, obviously. Well, you've heard about this with certain players where they played themselves out of the Hall of Fame. In other words, the later years in their career impacted the totality of their legacy. Now, I'm not,

Starting point is 00:31:25 That can't be Belichick. But is this possible with Belichick, his coaching without Tom Brady and also floundering at the collegiate level, maybe eroded a little bit of the confidence and trust him? He's still the winning. I think he's like the winningest coach of all time in the playoffs. The second winning his coach in the regular season ever. Eight Super Bowl champions, two of the defensive coordinator, six is a head coach. This is great.

Starting point is 00:31:51 Three-time NFL coach of the year. been to like the AFC championship game. Give me the conspiracy. 13 times. Give me the conspiracy. I just think you make a, to your point a little bit, you make a couple of bad life choices, right? You date a 24-year-old.

Starting point is 00:32:04 You go fucking coach it to the university in North Carolina. Now all of a sudden, motherfuckers want to keep you out of the Hall of Fame. Why did he want to go coach at the University of North Carolina? I don't know. Maybe he needed to find another young girlfriend. Justin, this one didn't work out. Got to go to the source. But I think that people just hate on him.

Starting point is 00:32:22 They tried to say spy gate and deflate gate. I don't give a fuck. If you're not cheating and you're not trying. I need my Dallas Cowboys to try harder and cheat, okay? I don't give a fuck. There is no way Bill Belichick is not a first bad hall of fame. Even if you don't like him, even if he's cursed you out at a press conference. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:32:43 You should not let your personal interfere with the professional. What do the articles say? What is the justification? Nobody knows. Everybody thinks it's some bullshit. Everybody wants the people who voted for him. to come forward so the 11 that didn't vote for him. I think that is right.

Starting point is 00:32:57 Wow. I need to know who these people are. That got to be personal in Vendez. It's got to be personal. How you don't let Bill Belichick, yo? Bill Belichick is arguably the greatest NFL coach of all time. Some people say he's the greatest NFL coach of all time. Who would say that there's a better one?

Starting point is 00:33:12 Party or some shit? If you're mentioned like that, you're our first ballot hall of fame. Is there anybody that has more Super Bowl victories than him? Coaching. No. Well, then you're going to not. I don't think so. No.

Starting point is 00:33:26 I mean, look, the reality is, I think with the NFL Hall of Fame, there's like a limited window where you can get in, right? What you mean? Meaning, like, there are certain people, for example, you're not up for nomination after a certain amount of years past retirement. So, like, and I think because of that, maybe they try to get certain people in before they're out of the window. And with Bill Belichick, maybe some of the people going,

Starting point is 00:33:50 Look, he's going to get in no matter what, but let's prioritize this other guy that this is his last window. Again, I'm making up some bullshit right now because it doesn't make any sense. He's got six. Six Super Bowls is four. Chuck Null. You see what I'm saying? And then... And he's got two of the defensive coordinator.

Starting point is 00:34:04 Right. And then... So he got eight. Eight. And then there are a couple with three. But he's well ahead of the past. Yeah. Bro.

Starting point is 00:34:11 And he went to nine. You know how... The degree of difficulty of football that take a team to the Super Bowl, nine. fucking time. Nah, something's off with this. It's hate. Let's call it what it is. It's fucking hate.

Starting point is 00:34:26 Yeah, but you're right. I think it undermines the NFL Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame don't even mean shit no more. Who are the people that vote? It's people in the press. It's, uh, and they do it from different people, different people from different cities. I think New York and L.A. have multiple cities that are represented. And then it's this, it's this one writer's organization.

Starting point is 00:34:46 I can't remember the name of it right now. And then, um, I think some former players and coaches is what. But you need 80% of votes to get in. He didn't get 80% of votes. Some bullshit, man. You know what I mean? Hall of Fame. Honestly, Hall of Fame means nothing right now.

Starting point is 00:35:00 It means nothing right now. Fuck. So that means Brady's not a first ballot Hall of Fame. Which would be absurd. Do you see what I'm saying? How? How is Bill Belichick not our first ballot Hall of Fame? Like, the NFL honestly should step in and intervene and say,

Starting point is 00:35:13 yo, stop it. This is some bullshit. Brady winning that ring with Tampa, though, did put a little dent into Belichick's legacy. I will say. Nah. Having immediate success without Belichick and then Belichick floundering without Brady, I think changed the way

Starting point is 00:35:27 that we saw both of them. So you can no longer say, oh, Brady's just a system quarterback and you can no longer say Belichick is a situational football genius that if you give him a good system quarterback, he could take you the Super Bowl.

Starting point is 00:35:40 Yeah, I don't think Brady's a system quarterback, but there was a system in Tampa that Brady helped to implement. You can't even name who the fucking coach was during that Super Bowl. Bruce Sarians, right? Oh, okay. Never mind. I thought that was the running back.

Starting point is 00:35:52 Is that right? Yeah, with Bill Jackson, I know it's different because he went from coaching the GM, but he's a guy at one point was on the pinnacle. First Ballot Hall of Famer. But he's the first ballot hall of f*** who out. Hall of Fri. Second act. First ballot hall of f***.

Starting point is 00:36:09 Can we do that? You want to do that in a minute? We need to go. We need to go first ballot hall of f***. Let's not force it, though. If we hear one in the course of the podcast, Let's just say he's a first ballot hall of f***. Yes.

Starting point is 00:36:25 Because you need to be about that life. Like if you're a first Andy, Andy Bravo, the guy from Bravo. First ballot hall. First ballot. First ballot. First ballad. First ballad. Now, Anderson Cooper?

Starting point is 00:36:36 First ballot. First ballot. But you didn't really know he was gay. Yeah, but first ballot because of his, it's the relationship with Andy on New Year's Eve. On New Year's Eve. He lets it out. They're Brady Belichick, bro. They're Brady Belichick on New Year's Eve, bro.

Starting point is 00:36:57 But you know why it is, right? And Andy is Bill. Are you aware of why that is? Why they're so effective? Why? I mean, you know what? I don't want to know. Never mind.

Starting point is 00:37:10 I don't even want to know. Who would be more excited about a ball dropping? Like, why he gets paid to me? I know, I know. That's why. You're going to get a couple of straight guys to count down to that? Big bucks. You're absolutely fucking right.

Starting point is 00:37:28 That's smart program. Shout out to CNN, man. That's brilliant. That's fucking brilliant. That's right. Cock News Network. You got to get first ballot hall of f*** to see the balls drop. Man, that one.

Starting point is 00:37:41 You're going to have me and Charlemais sitting up there not excited at all? Maybe. Man. Maybe. Man. I'm not one, but I can play one on TV. Do you know what? The fuck.

Starting point is 00:37:54 Nobody's even asking him to do it. He just put his shit out there in case. He's like, yo, Hollywood. By the way, if you need a gay guy. I got you. This whole episode has been about that. I get my vagina wax and I got pedicures and manicures. Then you're all taking care of yourself, guys.

Starting point is 00:38:13 Take fucking care of yourself. And NFL, take care of Bill Belichick. It's fucked up that he's not a first ballot hall of family, yo. Like, I don't know how nobody can look at this and be like an injustice anywhere. It's not a threat to justice everywhere. Now, people were saying to me, wow, show. Come on. Listen.

Starting point is 00:38:30 Wow. Listen, Alex, this is serious business. M. O.K. People were saying to me that Barry Bonds, like, I should be going hard for Barry Bonds like this. I love Barry Bonds. Barry Bonds did not win like Bill Belichick in no way shape of it. I don't think Barry Bonds ever won one World Series. I don't think Barry Bonds went to the World Series, did he?

Starting point is 00:38:48 Did the Disabran single Giants ever goes to the World Series? Did he go with the Oakland A's? I don't know. What about with the pirates? The pirates. The pirates, that's what he was. He was with the pirates and the four, uh, disarm single giant. But the steroids, you can't, you know.

Starting point is 00:38:58 No, baseball was better when everybody was on steroids. Cereids don't make you Barry Bonds. Barry Bonds would be Barry Bonds without steroids. It can only magnify what you already are. Like, I couldn't get on steroids and go out there and hit all them fucking home run. You still got to have a level of talent and skill to be fucking Barry Bonds. So maybe, I don't think he would be breaking records. I don't think he would be breaking records without the steroids.

Starting point is 00:39:19 I do. How about this? If we found out that during that time in baseball, everybody was using steroids. They were dope. Well, the thing is that, like, it's only been exposed that the top guys were doing it. Even pitches were doing it. Right.

Starting point is 00:39:33 But if we found out everybody was doing it, we would go, oh, yeah, put them in because it was a level playing field. He was competing against all these people that were also doing. It's like the cycling shit. All them are doping. All them are on some form of juice. Lance Armstrong took the heat. but every single one of them were doing it,

Starting point is 00:39:48 and they were doing it to come in fourth. So if the playing field is level, you've got to give them the accolades. If it's not level, then obviously it's messed up. The other thing with baseball, as much as I understand it, is like baseball is more a hand-eye coordination. Yes. Or than a power sport.

Starting point is 00:40:03 Yes, but if you have hand-eye or coordination, which he does, and then you can add power, you can fundamentally change your effectiveness in the game. So, like, that double that you hit now becomes a home run. But did he win? I don't remember Brad Vaughnard Bond winning those shit, This is an interesting argument. Did Barry Bond one time he went to the World Series?

Starting point is 00:40:20 And did they win? The Pirates? They lost, but he basically performed well. With the Pirates of Giants, did he go? I think it's the Giants 2002. They lost to the Angels in seven games. Bill Belichick is the winning his coach of all time, bro. Yeah, no, it's a little bit disrespectful, man.

Starting point is 00:40:37 Come on, man. Also, he's dating the young girl. Like, I don't think people give that enough credit. Like, a guy could be with a 24-year-old. Like, all these guys that are, probably in the NFL, got a little side pieces of 24 years old running around. Nobody's giving them any criticism. He's locked down a 24-year-old.

Starting point is 00:40:53 So it's like you're upset at him for listening more? Listen, man. That makes it better? No, I'm not saying it makes it better, but like he's enduring. Fucking a 24-year-old is nothing. You don't think the execs of the NFL are doing that shit? You don't think the team owners are doing that shit? But listening to her, having her on the fucking sidelines every single day,

Starting point is 00:41:12 complain about the outfits she got to wear? After the conversation we had last week, the fact you think that 73 year old man is still fucking that girl. What do you think he's doing? He just wants company at his age. It's almost like being a caregiver. He wants conversation.

Starting point is 00:41:28 He wants to walk in the room. But from a 24-year-old girl? He can't even get it up. What percentage do you think about to check getting to? No, I think he's on that chew. Yeah, he's on that chew. 15%. Nah.

Starting point is 00:41:40 15%. You want a companionship. You go with an older woman who has more cultural common ground. I agree. You might like TikTok. You don't know, like, for real. Like, we don't know what Bill's into. We don't know what keeps them going.

Starting point is 00:41:55 He spent the majority of his life hanging around 20-year-olds. Right. Like, he's an NFL coach. The average career in the NFL is, like, what, four years? So the majority of people he's been around for his entire coaching career are in that 20 to, like, 28-year-old range. That's probably the only people he knows how to talk to. That's why I think he went to go back to coach at UN. see because he's going to cut her cut a 20-something year old every four years you got to do it

Starting point is 00:42:17 leo style yeah she's still dating this one that's her she's 24 nah but think about he might not even know how to talk to people his age real shit like what does he have in common with some woman who's 70 years old like what life experiences belichick have he's singularly obsessed with football their bodies like they get like no in common with like oh my back hurts too which he's on his time listen listen you're not there yet because you're still young once you reach a certain age we're on our back. We're on our back. We're laid down as jujitsu. It's not fucking no more. We're throwing, pulling you into guard. How are you not too? 30. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got about six, seven more year to face to face.

Starting point is 00:42:55 There's no missionary at our is just like an absurd idea. Yeah, you don't got that much time. I will say this man, the Belichick thing, you might like it, but, you know, I'm tired. We have responsibilities, you know, like. So that's what you don't do no other. No, no, we can do it for a little bit. You do it pragmatically. But it's not like, nah, we're going to thrust here for fucking 40 minutes. 40 minutes is crazy. 30 minutes? 40 minutes is great.

Starting point is 00:43:22 Who's fucking 40 minutes? That's about regular once you get there. 40 minutes is a long time. It's 40 minutes if we start it from like, I'm asleep for 30 minutes. Like, what are we talking about 40 minutes? You're 45-year-old man, you're fucking for 40 minutes. 47. Yeah, 40's good.

Starting point is 00:43:44 47 years old? 47. I'll be 48. You look fucking great. I'll be 48 in June, June 29th. Wow. How old are you, Chris? 55 speed limit.

Starting point is 00:43:54 Yo, Chris looks good, too. Chris, you're looking good. Chris said the speed limit. I want to say something about the Bill Belichick thing. It's exposing another situation in America. White people are under attack from other white people. Son, white people are under attack. The crimes that are happening to white people.

Starting point is 00:44:11 Bro. You know, I'm from other. white people is ridiculous. Because I guarantee you when they show the 11 people that didn't vote for Bill Belichick, they're all going to be white. Ooh. Guarantee. So maybe it was never about race in the first place? Is that what you're trying to say? No, it was definitely about race, but I think that what happens is when you have something like, you know, white supremacy, it just eventually cannibalizes itself. It's evil. So evil eventually cannibalizes the whites that are enforcing white supremacy, if you're not on board, you're not even white to them.

Starting point is 00:44:42 If you're not a what? If you're not on board with the white supremacy, you're not even white to them. No, I just think that they can look at somebody like a Bill Belichick and say, I hate that fucking guy because he's so great. And they're in the position of power to keep him out the Hall of Fame and finally get a lick on them. Yeah. They're taking the fucking lick. Everybody else, I think it's a matter of class and what side you decide to be.

Starting point is 00:45:04 I think about that. Because that's in Minnesota. Yes. Yes. That's a matter of class and what side you decide to be. All right. Let's talk about Minnesota. Let's talk about Minnesota, man.

Starting point is 00:45:14 Another tragic situation. What was the brother's name, Alan? Alex Prattie. Alex Purdy. What? You want to pay bills. Let's pay some bills. You know what, good guys.

Starting point is 00:45:24 Let's pay some bills. Let's pay some bills. Let's give them a warning before we start going into this, man. Let's pay some bills, Taylor. What we got? This episode is brought to you by Accenture. When your advertising operations fall out of sync, everything else follows. Spotify and Accenture are working together to reinvent the rhythm of ad sales.

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Starting point is 00:46:19 DeAndre Shultz.com. I'm going to be doing it. We're going to have some other special guests on there. That's going to be fun in L.A. at the Greek. Theandrefills.com for tickets to that, man. It's going to be excited. Jellie's going to host it. And it's going to be a lot of other comics and maybe some music people.

Starting point is 00:46:34 It's going to be a wild night. That's all I'm going to say. So L.A. pull up today. My church announcements, make sure you check out the Breakfast Club on Netflix. Hit the Remind Me button if you haven't already. So it can be set and you can go home and watch Breakfast Club content on Netflix. Breakfast Club interviews on Netflix right now. Let me see.

Starting point is 00:46:53 Today is... By the time y'all hear this, ice tea will be up. Ice tea trench and my man Big Court, they was up there talking about the OG network. And Uncle Merta and Tony Yeo. My God. Tony is an incredible... Shout out to Uncle Murgher.

Starting point is 00:47:09 Him and Murt are great together. Yeah. They launched a new podcast called The Real Report Podcast. They're with the Volume Podcast Network, Colin Cowherd's network on IHeart. A lot of different cultural podcasts around that network when I think about it. But yeah, they're going to be very entertaining, man.

Starting point is 00:47:27 I think so. Yeah, I was talking to ICT, Chris. IST was the first rapper with a podcast, right? With loudspeaker. I think it was called the Final Level podcast. Yeah. He was way ahead of the game. I can't think of no rapper that had a podcast before ICT.

Starting point is 00:47:42 He was the first. When I first started hearing about podcasts, it was Combat Jack, rest in peace. And it was what y'all was doing with Final Level. I think that might even have been before to read. Yeah, I'm looking at back now. Like 2013? Late 14.

Starting point is 00:47:56 14? Okay. No, no 13. You're right. Yeah, 2013. Yeah, yeah. How early were we in the podcast revolution? Right there. Like, who else was out?

Starting point is 00:48:07 I'm just saying in the ethos. Like, Rogan was out. The champs? Neil Brennan and Moshe Castro, the champs. I think about Neil all the time. I know. Neil would have gotten rich. Oh, my God.

Starting point is 00:48:17 Neil and Moshe would have gotten rich. rich so long ago off this podcast game. Because everybody that's first to market is the ones that really like got the back. It's more advantageous. Oh my God. Also just a great idea of her show. Yes. Yeah. It was, uh, there was, uh, two white.

Starting point is 00:48:34 Neil was white. Most is Jewish. He's white. Yeah. And they interviewed, um, just black comics. I think they just interviewed black dudes. No, just, it was just black comics. Oh, really? Yeah. I think it evolved, but it started with it. No, they never got to the rappers and stuff. Because I remember asking Neil, why did they stop it? Well, you know what?

Starting point is 00:48:51 I'm lying because I was on there. Yeah, I thought they interviewed like that. Like Questlove on there. Probably. Yeah. And that's when I, yo, there's so many people who I heard their stories for the first time on the Champs podcast, Miss Pat, Tiffany Haddish. You know, that was like one of the first in-depth Arsenio Hall interviews I had heard. Like, you know, like they and Chris Rock, and they really got a lot out of people.

Starting point is 00:49:12 You know what I mean? So shout out to Neil and Mosher. Yeah, that's it. I remember the Champs, Combat Jack. Rosenberg and Cyford I didn't want to say to them, Chris I know. They didn't have it. Give credit what credit is doing.

Starting point is 00:49:26 I didn't give credit with credit. Just not for me. Somebody in the room can do it. This won't be me. Okay. I have no problem with somebody in the room doing it. Okay. But who else?

Starting point is 00:49:35 That's it? Because the read, when did the read start? Brandenius was 2013. Yeah, about 13. Wow. We were 2013, 2013, 2014. And the Rosenthal brothers, they had one called the Hightman.

Starting point is 00:49:46 It was very early. Oh. Oh, it's the real? It's the real. Oh, wow. Shout out, it's the real. Yeah, shout out, it's the real. Minnesota, man.

Starting point is 00:49:55 Minnesota. Another tragic situation in Minnesota. Alex Purdy was... Pretty. No. Pretty. Alex Pretty. Alex Pretty.

Starting point is 00:50:04 Alex Pretty was shot and killed by Homeland Security. It's so much to this story. What trip me out was how quick they were to rush out and tell us that, what we saw. Amen. We didn't see. Amen. An individual approached U.S. Border Patrol officers with a 9mm semi-automatic handgun. The officers attempted to disarm this individual, but the armed suspect reacted violently. Fearing for his life and for the lives of his fellow officers around him, an agent fired defensive shots. Medics were on the scene immediately and attempted to deliver medical aid to the subject, but he was pronounced dead at the scene. The

Starting point is 00:50:47 suspect also had two magazines with ammunition in them that held dozens of rounds. He also had no ID. This looks like a situation where an individual arrived at this scene to inflict maximum damage on individuals and to kill law enforcement. That to me is textbook authoritarianism. And I'll tell you why. Because it's not about even trying to make you believe. This is, no, we're going to dictate your reality.

Starting point is 00:51:17 Your perception of reality, we're going to tell you what it is. No, no, no, that didn't happen. This is what happened. That's why, you know, it was... As soon as I saw Christy Knoen go out there and do that, I was like... It wasn't only Kristy Knoen. It was every single one of them, the entire administration. Now they're walking it back because they see that we have camera footage

Starting point is 00:51:38 and we can see this, like, blatant, disgusting, heinous act that transpired. And there's no way. And he's also seeing his own base react to it. Yes. Like he's seeing January 6ers go out there and saying, this is horrendous. You cannot do this to people. And once you see them turn on the bait on Trump. This is a textbook American.

Starting point is 00:51:56 This guy was a nurse for a veterans. VA nurse. His right to bear arms, concealed carry permit. And everybody. And it's funny, and I had to think about this, right? Everybody's like, oh, he was at a protest. He was at a protest. Who said he was at a protest?

Starting point is 00:52:13 But why can't you be at a protest? You can be. But who said he was? He just looked like he was on the street watching ICE wrecked shop on somebody and so he had his camera out recording him. I didn't see a protest going on. I saw ICE doing whatever they was doing to someone.

Starting point is 00:52:29 He had the cameras out. Then Ice pepper sprays these young ladies, tosses them to the ground. He does what a nurse should do. Goes to the aid of the young ladies. Then they jump on him. Where was the protest? Everybody keeps saying, oh, he bought up guns to a product.

Starting point is 00:52:41 Even if he did, he had every right to. But I didn't see the protest. I just saw a guy practicing. his right to bear arms on a Minnesota street. So let's assume that he was go out. I think by the protest, people are talking about people around are trying to make it hard. Like, where's the protest? Look at this.

Starting point is 00:52:57 So they have the whistles. They have, like, a lot of stuff just so it makes it hard for ICE to. To raise awareness? Yeah, yeah. But you should do that. So that's their form of protesting. I think it's really important that you bring up the administration's response. It was disgusting.

Starting point is 00:53:11 And the administration swears an oath. the president, these other people, they swear an oath to uphold the Constitution. This guy was exercising two of his constitutional rights. Right to protest. Let's assume it's the right to protest. He is peacefully assembling and protesting and the right to bear arms. And when you immediately jump to justifying that act, what you are doing is, in an effort to preserve your own personal power, you are shredding the Constitution in the face of the people. And it doesn't matter where you sit on the aisle. There is one document that is supposed to bind us all as Americans,

Starting point is 00:53:51 and that is the Constitution. So I don't, and I think that's why, at its core, there are a lot of people that might have very radical views that are giving incredible pushback on this, and I love seeing it, because they are recognizing that this disgusting act of shredding the document that's supposed to bind all of us as Americans. Now, we can have a little disagreements about it.

Starting point is 00:54:09 We can healthy debate these, you know, how we should, you know, do law enforcement, We can have these conversations. But in terms of immediately shredding it upon this tragic event, and not even looking into it, by the way. It was like immediate reactions without even watching. No investigation. No investigation, nothing.

Starting point is 00:54:26 No, I think they saw the videos. I think that. I don't think so. No, Christy. No, Christy. No, they might have seen it. Yeah, Chris, you know him had to see the video. Sure, sure.

Starting point is 00:54:32 They might have seen it. But instead of going, hey, we need to investigate this further, talk to the different officers, see exactly what happened. And honor the constitutional rights of that man, because anybody who watches this video understands that he's, I don't think that he's doing anything. I don't think he's doing anything illegal from watching this video at all. He wasn't doing anything illegal at all. And the fact that they disarmed him, because they show you that in the video,

Starting point is 00:54:53 they took his pistol off him and then shot him. Yeah. What's the point of it? Yeah. What's the point of this? And this is what happened when you have people on the job who don't know what the fuck they're doing. They're inexperienced. They're undertrained, right?

Starting point is 00:55:03 And that's the thing about ICE. It's like a lot of these guys are taking a big bonus. And they're doing like six weeks of training. And then they don't know how to de-escalate situations. I was talking to Alex who was in law enforcement about this first. And it was like the first thing. Alex is who. Right.

Starting point is 00:55:14 Alex Media. You were in law enforcement? Yes. You did know this. I did not know his girlfriend. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Come record the podcast in uniform.

Starting point is 00:55:22 He thought you were being professional. I don't know. Yeah. You were a cop? No, um, sorry. Court officer. Like a bailiff? Yeah, we're over this.

Starting point is 00:55:33 Like that's some fancy shit. Nick, that's what it's cool. He was, you was bull from night court. Oh, you know, like the animal? You were, you were a fucking bailer. But you don't remember? No, I don't. The courts were right across the street from ours.

Starting point is 00:55:48 Yeah, but you were in Sweden at that time? We didn't get no action. What could Alex tell you about this situation? I'm not saying that I had action. He got injured on the job, action. He got injured on the job. When in Switzerland, when he tried to fight another. Oh, that was Sweden, by the way.

Starting point is 00:56:02 What? In the court. In the court. What happened? They tried to jump the judge and we took him down to the grade. Really? And they didn't shoot. Oh, did you shoot him?

Starting point is 00:56:10 Nope. And kill him right there? Or did you de-escalate the situation? He escalated the situation. Right. To my knee in the process. He doesn't believe you. He was eating off that disability, bro.

Starting point is 00:56:20 He was eating off that disability. I believe it. I thank you for your service, Alan. Thank you. Man, shut down. I know. You want to get a dick, boy. What?

Starting point is 00:56:29 What? People like you really turn, thank you for your service to bless your heart. I'm gonna pray for you. That's what you turn that shit into. I too thank you for your service. But what did he say about this? What did you say, Alex? What did you say about this situation?

Starting point is 00:56:42 It's just that we're trained that the first thing you should do is de-escalate the situation. You should never try to escalate the situation. And clearly, all of them are escalating this situation. The training is horrible. Look, long-I did six months of training. They're doing 47 days because this is the 40-7. I saw Amy Kovachar on the Sunday news. She said that they do 47 days of training because Trump is the 47 president.

Starting point is 00:57:06 That's crazy. Disgusting. The, and look, I know I had Trump on the podcast, you know, and I'm aware. Stop. explaining that. But let me just clarify, because I think it is important to say. Like, I know how I had him on the podcast. And, like, so I, when I'm talking out about this, I'm not doing it to, like, you know,

Starting point is 00:57:23 get people to be like, oh, he's a good guy or whatever like that or trying to get anybody on my side. I understand that this is a horrific event that happened. I objectively want to talk about it. I'm not trying to, like, win anybody over in this. You understand. You know the difference between right and wrong. There's a difference between, like, respecting and honoring the Constitution, the backbone of our country and then completely shredding it.

Starting point is 00:57:44 And this is completely shredding it. And now they're realizing that people have noticed it. And now they're trying to backtrack it. By the way, he's been wiping his ass with the Constitution. Sure. I've been on record a million times saying like whenever you, when he said we should terminate the Constitution to overthrow the results of an election, shit like that got to be disqualifying if you run up for president.

Starting point is 00:58:01 So here's a pretty example. So it's like, I know that there are people sounding the alarms about this. When I saw these last few weeks in Minnesota, I didn't think was possible happening in the United States of America. I'm being 100% serious. To white people. No, to anybody. But you've seen it happen to black people.

Starting point is 00:58:13 Exactly. Yes. Yes. To white people. It's okay to say that. No, no. No, it is. But it's okay to say that.

Starting point is 00:58:19 I don't know. I mean, I didn't know that this was possible to happen in the United States of America. And when I'm specifically talking about with this situation here and like not only this one, but also what we've seen ICE doing, like entering homes without warrants. Yeah. Like arrest. It is unconstitutional. And they've done this weird thing where like they have like a federally administrative warrant, which is some bullshit. It doesn't even allow you.

Starting point is 00:58:41 actually have access into a home. Yeah, they're trying to find ways around the system. And what that says to me, when you're willing to shred the Constitution to preserve your, it's not only your power, but your ideas of what should happen, it is incredibly un-American. That's the fourth and was. First, second, Fourth Amendment. The fourth is the one about entering someone's home. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, I just think it's an important thing to speak out against. I just think it's horrific. Lauren LaRosa, she interviewed Derek Johnson. He's part of the NAACP. And he was, and he was was saying like the problem with ICE is that there's no names, like they're not

Starting point is 00:59:15 identify, you don't even know when like an enforcement situation like this happened, you don't know who the person shot, like you don't have any names or nothing. We don't even know that. They're even agents for... I thought ICE's perspective was very interesting. What he said? Ice T said that there's going to be a civil war. What he said

Starting point is 00:59:31 the civil war is going to be between local law enforcement and ICE. So I'm kind of just sitting back like, I mean I think the war that's about to happen. It's going to be between the police and the feds. And then who we're going to root for?

Starting point is 00:59:48 It's crazy, right? The black, we're going to root for the police. Like, what's going on right now? It's so out of control. So he said that it's inevitable because of what, you know, even Taylor is saying. Like, you don't know who these people are. Yeah. Right.

Starting point is 01:00:01 And at some point, a side has, like a line has to be drawn in the sand. Because if stuff like this is happening, if you're, if you took an oath to protect and serve the civilians of this place and these people are acting like thugs and acting like goons then you got it you got to react this they arrested a guy there's a video of it because he has an accent and the guy arresting him the ice officer also had an accent and the guy called him out on it he was like you got a fucking accent what the hell you're doing and the guy ends up having like legal status here but this type of behavior happening in american i didn't i just didn't think it was possible i genuinely and i thought and i heard it again i i'm

Starting point is 01:00:41 I heard people sound on the alarms. I thought that our institutions and our constitution could hold up. I didn't think that it would be infringed upon. But you have to have people who care to hold up. And that's the question. Who's going to end up doing that? So what you're saying is that local law enforcement is going to end up doing that and they're going to be pushing back against ICE.

Starting point is 01:00:59 And you would also, I would imagine, would hopefully go, like there might be people in ice going to, hey, what we're doing is unconstitutional and we cannot continue to behave this way. Whenever you have a political movement that has been as anti-democratic. as Trump and MAGA have been, you're going to get pushback culturally, institutionally, legally.

Starting point is 01:01:20 That's what you should hope for. Like when we see things like this in America, we should hope that immediately everybody's like, fuck no. This can't happen. And it should be enough pressure put on the administration that the administration backs the fuck off, which is what I think we're kind of seeing that.

Starting point is 01:01:37 We're kind of seeing that. But it's interesting because I think you see a lot of the Trump's sycophants out there that are just defending it no matter what. And I think they're starting to realize, oh, shit, not even the Trump administration is going to stand behind this. And now I'm about to be out there in a cold. What the fuck does that mean?

Starting point is 01:01:51 No, no, no, the sycophant. What's that? The Trump ass kissers. They're like, whatever Trump says we do, I don't believe in any principles and I don't believe in the Constitution. Tell them you're not one of them, Schultz. No, I mean, I think that anybody listens to this show knows that I'm not one of them. I mean, specifically with immigration, when he was on the pod, we pushed back against.

Starting point is 01:02:05 Like, my, my feeling on immigration is like, I think any illegal that's already here should be given a pathway to citizenship as long as they haven't committed any crimes. I think most people on board with with deporting any illegal that has committed a crime. Yeah. Like I think there's bipartisan support of that. I think the tricky thing comes and honestly I have empathy like you're a business owner. There's been people, I'm not trying to out to you, but like there's been people I'm sure that might not have had like legal citizenship that have maybe worked in various businesses. And it's like, you know, I've definitely been taken care of as a kid by people that weren't legal, babysitters and stuff.

Starting point is 01:02:39 So there are people that maybe would like a path to citizenship that I have a lot of empathy for. You have to start with the criminals. I agreed. I agreed. Okay. Look. But maybe we can. It's very tough.

Starting point is 01:02:50 Maybe we can open our hearts a little bit to the people who are trying to be good hard work in America. And you know what's going to happen? You're going to be in the midst of this. Now some people would be like, oh, coming here, illegal is a crime. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about having committed any crimes, haven't gone to jail, haven't done these things. That's how I personally feel. Now, you might feel like you want all legal is gone.

Starting point is 01:03:07 You might feel like you want strong borders. Like all these things are okay to feel, but the way to do it is not this way. The way to do it is not to erode American values. I think that we can all agree on that. Unless it's not about immigration. Well, well, well. Which is what my concern? Not even not about immigration.

Starting point is 01:03:26 I want to get to that. But there's oil in Minnesota? No. No. No. No, the, the, what I'm seeing here right now specifically is like the second ICE does something horrible. they go out and throw out these breadcrumbs.

Starting point is 01:03:42 They're like, but look, we arrested this pedophile. We arrested this murderer. We arrested this. And then I looked into the numbers, and we were talking about inflagrant, it's like less than 5% of the people are they deported. Are actual criminals. And then 75% are just longstanding residents that are here undocumented, right? So what I think they're doing is using this thing of security as a smokescreen

Starting point is 01:04:05 so they could just blanket, deport, and harass not only illegals, but also. American citizens. That's the best case scenario. The worst case is... This is a test run for the elections. And he'll shut shit down. It's going to be very hard to do it. I thought about that too, Chris. It's going to be very hard to do state to state. You got a lot of states that are going to be protected against stuff like that. Like, it's going to be hard to do in Governor Shapiro, Pennsylvania, hard to do in Westmore's Maryland, hard to do in Pritch's Illinois. You know what I'm saying? Hard to doing... In Minneapolis, Minnesota. In New York, New Jersey. It's going to be hard to do in state-to-state.

Starting point is 01:04:39 But they're testing. Yeah. They're seeing how this is received, how it goes down, what's effect. I mean, they know this ain't going to work, though. I was, Fox News Sunday morning. I forgot who it was, but they were having the panel, and the guy was saying how, number one, this is time. And he was a Republican. He said, it's time for everybody to start calling Trump out.

Starting point is 01:04:57 Yeah. This is not sustainable. This is not going to work. And then he said, when you see these large amounts of protesters, 20,000 people showing up to cities. Right. They don't have enough. vice agency. Exactly. Exactly. But I see something like there's a part of it that's flown under the radar a bit like I think his name is Josh Thompson. He was the prosecutor

Starting point is 01:05:18 in Minnesota who led the investigation into Somali daycare stuff. So he's been on top of that. He led that and he investigated. He got all the, I don't know if they're, you know, indictments or whatever it is. He resigned this week. And the reason, and six other prosecutors. And the reason they resigned is the Trump administration ordered them to investigate the wife of Renee Good who was shot in the first incident for alleged ties to

Starting point is 01:05:46 domestic terrorist groups, right? When you see something like that, when you see these guys who have led the investigations and they resign en masse and they're forcing them to go after the wife of a victim was killed, it's not about immigration. It's about intimidating people.

Starting point is 01:06:04 It's about going after political opponents. It's about trying to shut shit down. Every day we knew that he was going to do. What about the voter rolls shit? And why does he want the voter rolls from Minnesota? Why do they basically float a deal being like, hey, if you give us this, what are the voter rolls? It's the records of the people who vote, which generally aren't shared publicly, right? So it's like your address, whatever information. So he knows who's who now. Who's registered which way? Yeah. Well, maybe now he goes through it and says, what would their argument be for? I mean, this is one argument be. The argument is that there's

Starting point is 01:06:39 concerns about the validity of the elections. And voter fraud, right? So we need to see everybody on this role. And make sure that they're like a living human being. It's an intimidation. Yeah. Right. I honestly think the issue is the quotas because Trump ran on mass deportation.

Starting point is 01:06:55 And he's put these crazy quotas in terms of how many illegals that they want out of here. And so at first, he wanted to start with, hey, we'll go after the criminals. And you see that the numbers aren't as high as he thought they would be. And so now he's like, yo, I don't care what you have to do. let's get everybody out. Because that's what happened in New York when they wanted to bring crime down and then they started doing stop and frisk

Starting point is 01:07:15 and they were violating everybody's right. I got pulled over all the time. I think this is just a version of that. Other presidents have deported people in mass numbers and it didn't look like this. Yeah, but he's trying to get record numbers in his first year. It ain't about getting right.

Starting point is 01:07:30 I mean, to me, it wouldn't be about getting the record numbers. It's about getting the right people out. But we're talking about Trump. I understand what Alex is saying. What you're saying is the right thing to do and Alex is saying what they're trying to do. They're going after these numbers so they can... I think they think the base is going to really support that.

Starting point is 01:07:44 But I think if they see it, this is the cost of those record numbers, there's going to be immense pushback. I think that's, listen, and that's at least what I hope. That's what I see online right now. I see a lot of pushback. Now, an interesting thing that's happened. I don't know if you guys picked up on this, but did you see how, like, TikTok just got transferred to U.S. ownership?

Starting point is 01:08:00 I saw that. And did you see how immediately they started... They blocked ice and all that stuff like that. And when I mean throttling, I mean down to zero. Like, I know there are people like political. creators. They're on TikTok and Instagram, and I've seen them get zero views on videos, zero views on videos about ICE, and then videos that don't have anything to do with that, they'll be getting millions of views. That if you can make the argument, if you could prove that there is

Starting point is 01:08:23 some sort of pollution, that's state censored, that's state censorship, right? Like, is what authoritarianism looks like. Yes. So all it is is textbook. Unregulated, you know, guys in the street with guns and masks. That's right. Identification. State sponsor. Door to door, No need a warrant, force an entry. This is why it's an important moment to speak out, to go, you know, I've been going to protest. I can't be a hypocrite. I wouldn't advise bringing a gun to a protest, even if that is your constitutional.

Starting point is 01:08:52 So that's the tricky thing. It's like what we would all advise. I don't like that. What we would all advise to our, like, our friends and family and our kids. Like, I would tell my kids, hey, always comply with the officers because I want to see them come home. But the cost of not complying shouldn't be death. It's not comply or die in America.

Starting point is 01:09:08 That's not how things work here. And officers are trained. And taxpayers spend a lot of money to train these officers so that they can de-escalate the most tense situations so that we don't have deaths like Alex Breddy's. And clearly ICE doesn't have the interest in doing it or, in worst-case scenario, has been given the green light to-

Starting point is 01:09:30 They have been given the green light. It's so crazy. I mean, I'm glad that this conversation is happening, but this is the same conversation that people have been trying to have since Eric Garner. Yep. You know what I mean? Since the 90s with Rodney King when he got beat up.

Starting point is 01:09:41 And that must be frustrating. That must be incredibly frustrating. Yeah. But there was something else you just said that made me think, oh, the gun thing, man. This is America. Exactly. I'm from South Carolina. Take your gun wherever the fuck you want.

Starting point is 01:09:53 You see guns and people got their gun on them in Starbucks. Yeah. People got their gun on them in Dunkin' Donuts. I always thought that was strange. Like, why the fuck you got to have your gun and dunking donuts? You can go down south and literally it'll be a sign on the door that says don't bring your concealed weapon in here. They have to tell you not to do it. There used to be certain clubs

Starting point is 01:10:11 or establishments you were going. They were checking their guns at the door like coat checks. So now all of a sudden, why can't he have his gun on his waist? Tell me, walking on the street of Minnesota. Trump is coming for your guns, guys.

Starting point is 01:10:25 Isn't that not crazy? So here's an interesting thing, right? It's like, first of all, like, yeah. Yo, when the NRA speaks out against the Trump administration, the NRA says that these people are bugging, the gun owners association are like the pull up those quotes from that

Starting point is 01:10:39 this shit was crazy that's more respect for the Constitution now we could disagree about some of the rights that are given to Americans in the Constitution and how much freedom they should have but simply saying that you shouldn't be able or allow to carry one is ridiculous especially

Starting point is 01:10:54 when you're saying teachers should have them in a classroom like these are the same people going hey their school student teachers should have but we got to give teachers more guns and now when this guy who is protesting has a gun all of a sudden it's like yeah you shouldn't be walking around with that thing Look, the NRA has joined other U.S. gun lobby groups in calling for a full investigation by the Trump administration into the killing of Alex Preddy in Minnesota. Comments from the NRA come after a border agent fatally shot, Prattie, registered nurse at a veteran hospital affair.

Starting point is 01:11:19 What's the quote at? The NRA labeled a suggestion by a federal prosecutor that people who carry guns risk being lawfully shot by officers as dangerous and wrong. Responsible public voices should be awaiting a full investigation, not making generalizations and demonize. law-abiding citizens the NRA said in the statement. That's the N-R- fucking A. Crazy. But they got to say that. It's not crazy.

Starting point is 01:11:46 They got to say that. But they never speak out. Think about it. It's crazy. Philando Castile got killed. NRA didn't say nothing. Right? Like, there's like, who else?

Starting point is 01:11:54 It was another gun. Philando was the one I remember the most because he was a licensed gun owner. And he had it on his seat. And he told the officer he had it and where it was and everything. I think it was in the glove compartment where it was supposed to. to be and he ended up still getting shot for some reason. And everybody was like, NRA, say something, say something. They never said nothing.

Starting point is 01:12:11 Let's be real. They're shooting white people now. You know that, Chris. What's going on? I just don't want to be the guy to say it because I'm black. It sounds like, oh, yeah, of course you're going to say that. Say it, Chris. Say it, Schulte.

Starting point is 01:12:22 So I think the tricky thing here is like, do you go, should we not care because we didn't care before? Or is this an eye-opening moment for a lot of America? I don't care. What gives people to care? I don't even, I hate when people will say that, um, this is a thing. saying our issue. I'm like, nah, fuck all that. It's been our issue.

Starting point is 01:12:41 So why is it not our issue now? We're all Americans at the end of the day. Two things can be true. You could be frustrated as fuck that people weren't seeing it like this when it was happening to you guys, right? And now all of a sudden, people are speaking out. Now a sudden the NRA is making statements. Now a sudden the Republican Party is pushing back against Trump. That's incredibly frustrating. I get that. Bro, now's when you go for the dunk. But this. Because now you might get some shit done for real. Now there might be some comments in gun reform. But even though this, to me, this is

Starting point is 01:13:07 even the issue about gun reform. And this is why these situations go all off the rails, because this isn't about gun reform. This is about a law enforcement agency abusing their power. You know, when you see... Have to be heathed of an administration. When you see what ICE is doing, right? Is there a little part of you that understands why the founding fathers wanted us to have the right to bear arms? Yes, that's the whole point in the Second Amendment. To protect yourself against the militia like this. Right? Like, this is the... From an authoritarian, they wouldn't have used that language. No, they would say tyranny.

Starting point is 01:13:35 Tyranny, a king, whatever. against tyranny. Was it the mayor or the police chief of Minnesota who said something like we could, I forgot how you worded it, but see we could find it. Like we could intervene, but their guns are bigger than us. Well, it's the mayor of the police chief of many and I remember who says. But I think the question that you're getting to, which I'm not wholly, I have not wholly answered yet is like, you're basically asking, can our cops arrest? Yeah. From a legal perspective, yes. From a practical perspective to state the reality, yeah, it does get kind of hard when they drastically outnumber us and they have bigger guns than we... Not only their guns are bigger, they're more of them.

Starting point is 01:14:13 That's right. They're like way more... Six hundred cops. Yeah. There are four or five thousand, I think it's an invasion. It's an invasion. I'm curious. I think you may have your gun license in Jersey. Does my wife, though? Does this make you hesitant about possibly carrying your gun? Because like now, this situation escalated because they saw his gun. I wish I could carry. I can't carry. I wish I could be Sean Hannity and walking around here with my pistol

Starting point is 01:14:36 all through East New York Street. You know what I'm saying? It's like, this got me thinking I'm in the process of getting my concealed carry permit in New York. Like I have it in L.A., but I don't have it here. And it's like that situation, I think that escalated because they saw the gun.

Starting point is 01:14:51 One of the law enforcement yelled gun, gun, gun, and then another one just got scared and started shooting. I think it got pulled it away in an accident. He did. I saw a video where he was. I have to confirm that, but I saw that video where, like, the guy who removed the gun might have accidentally discharged. And then the other guys heard a gunshot.

Starting point is 01:15:08 And they started. Oh, by the way, can we talk about that? There's one thing about that video. When a gun shot went off, one of those ICE agents ran off so cowardly. No, no, no. Like, he ran. That's the one who had the gun. But he ran off.

Starting point is 01:15:23 Like, he ran off. Oh, my God, they're shooting. That's kind of protocol. That is protocol. You have to get the gun as far away from the incident. Because if you're still involved in the tussle, maybe the person could get the gun again. He just looks scared to me. And especially if you know it's your guy's shooting, unless he didn't know what a shot came from.

Starting point is 01:15:39 But you don't know if I had another gun. You don't know if I had another gun. Like this is. But you don't, yeah, you don't go there. And I think, look, again, I can't be hypocritical. I don't think you go to a protest, even if it's your legal right. Why do we keep saying protest? Where was the pro? He was there. He was there. He was just on the sidewalk, recording ice wild. Like, it's like you walking down the street right now.

Starting point is 01:16:00 He was an observer, but I've got-observant. I don't carry a gun, but I carry something with me all the time. I don't bring it. Chopics. Nox. Nunch. Numbchugs. You know it's numchugs.

Starting point is 01:16:13 You know it's numchugs. Why would you say chopper? I know it's num chucks. You know it's num chucks. This guy, man. Okay, but you carry something with you. But I take it with me when I go to the ice thing. You said you what?

Starting point is 01:16:26 I didn't bring it with me when I go to the ice thing. Because I know there's a chance. Is gonna- Hey, hey, that's your right to make that decision. Right. But what he's doing is not legal and should be supported by the Constitution. It's not illegal.

Starting point is 01:16:40 And by the people that are part of the government that are upholding it and swearing to uphold it. It should not be immediately dismissed and we should not be gas-lit into thinking that he's blamed for it. Right. I don't think he was at a protest and I want us to stop saying it.

Starting point is 01:16:52 Like the advice you're giving- You shouldn't get caught up on. So here the thing about the- No, I'm gonna tell you why that's a very important caveat. Number one, if he was even at a protest, it's fine. He can have it because it's his right. Yo, Kyle Rittenhouse tweeted out, carry everywhere. It is your right.

Starting point is 01:17:06 Kyle Rittenhouse. But to me, this guy was on the street. He saw ICE. We all been seeing how ICE gets down. He got his phone out. People are whistling. He's recording just to make sure no bullshit happens. And then bullshit happens.

Starting point is 01:17:21 The fact that he's just walking down the street with his gun is fine. Yeah. I don't know why people keep saying. It's like people keep saying he was at a protest. Where's the protest? Like, where's the protest? I don't see no signs. with the protest.

Starting point is 01:17:32 They're saying he carried a gun to attack ice or something. So why didn't he use it? That's where the administration is done because they came out with that bullshit so quickly. Oh my God. He's a terrorist. He was looking to shoot these.

Starting point is 01:17:45 He was a nurse. And I'm just like, come on, man. Like you see, Stephen Miller, this guy. What did that little scumbags say? He's the fucking, the bottom of the barrel. What do he say? What was his exact?

Starting point is 01:17:56 He's a domestic terrorist. They're trashing this guy. name, he approached them with a gun. I mean, come on. They're going to flip on all of them. Christy Knoem, Stephen Miller, all of them. They got to go now. Authoritarian regimes are not loyal to any. No, no, he'll toss them out. Yes. But for the fact that they even tried it. I mean, but that's the most interesting thing, right? Like, I don't think authoritarianism will ever take over in America. I just don't think that's the way America is designed. But I do feel like all of this is a necessary evil, sadly, and I'm going to tell you why.

Starting point is 01:18:29 because we can't go back. None of us can unsee what we saw. I don't know what the world is going to look like after Trump, but I think we all know how fragile our democracy is. I think we know that this whole system has been a house of cards. I think we can finally see so many different inequalities that exist from class to race to now even demonizing what side of the aisle you choose to be on. America's not going backwards.

Starting point is 01:18:57 Whatever we make after this has to be something. that's way more bulletproof than what we got right now. Because clearly none of this shit is bulletproof. Not the Constitution, not the bill of right. None of this shit is bulletproof, clearly. I agree with what you said, and you said that America, you don't think can fall into authoritarianism. And I agree with that you said,

Starting point is 01:19:16 but I will say that this was a breaking point for me in the way that the administration responded to it. Like, I didn't think what's happening right now with ICE could happen in America. I genuinely did not think that was possible. I thought our institution, I thought the Constitution would hold up. when I see it and then immediately defend it, I start to go, we got to be very loud about this.

Starting point is 01:19:39 Like if all the sudden becomes not like a liberal catastrophic thinking, it starts to become very reasonable, nuanced criticism of the administration. They have just done, they have just made the most far left critiques of the Trump administration. They're really. reaction to this has just justified all of them. In one moment, in one moment, all of their responses from Trump to Cash Patel, they have justified every single, and I know people probably look at this about they've done a million other things to justify them. Sure, and that's fair.

Starting point is 01:20:17 But this specific situation, I think, is a breaking point and it has justified all those criticism. I think people's antennas are way up and people's intent is up that were not up initially. This is like seeing the Epstein Fub. Because it's like, wouldn't it be nice if we got those? It's like, damn, y'all really been lying to us. Like, damn, like you really been lying to us. Let me ask you a question.

Starting point is 01:20:37 A lot of people will say, hey, Andrew, you know, you supported Trump. You screamed. I didn't support this at all. I've never supported his immigration policy. So let me ask you a question. Yeah. You never did support his immigration policy. But I was a question.

Starting point is 01:20:49 Did you not believe Trump would do any of the things that he said he was going to do because you didn't know or because you believed in the guard rails of America? I believe in the guard rails of America. And I still do. believe in the guardrails of America. And when I see people pushing back against this, like, joy is a weird thing, but it makes me proud. It makes me happy. When I see people that are conservatives pushing back against this, it makes me happy. It goes, oh, wow, there are some people that aren't just like Trump cultists. There are some people that are right-wing Republicans that

Starting point is 01:21:20 will hold him accountable, even if that means that they're going to lose the midterms, even if that means that in the short term, the Republicans might not have the power. They understand that for the next hundred years, America for it to be successful has to have a backbone and that backbone is the Constitution. So that makes me happy. But I, yeah, I am, this to me was a, was a breaking point. That reaction. It's not only, and also seeing, it made me do a real deep dive into like what ICE's, like policing tactics are. And then seeing them was, yeah, it's just catastrophic. And I am. I hope a lot of other people are in the same boat. Do you have been so easy just to say, as the administration,

Starting point is 01:21:59 right? Yep. This is wrong. We need to investigate this. Hey, let's not rush to judgment. Let's allow there to be an investigation. Hard to say that when this is number two. Let the system run its course. That would have been so easy to But hard to say that, Chris, and we just saw it a couple weeks ago. Exactly. It was a couple of days. It would have been so easy. That's the playbook, right? We know this looks terrible. We have a system, let the system run its course. When, you know, the investigation's done. They didn't even bother going through the motions. they just went straight to fuck that.

Starting point is 01:22:31 They should have did that. Then they should have investigated these people and then they should have been consequences to these individuals' actions. Even if you're doing that to bullshit people because you want to keep doing what the fuck you're doing. At least show the American people that there's some type of checks and balance.

Starting point is 01:22:44 They're going to do a bullshit investigation and it's going to make it worse because it's impossible to do an investigation on a crime where they already destroyed the crime scene. Nobody stuck around. And it's being conducted by the agency that did it. So what?

Starting point is 01:22:59 Seven months or a year from a month or now? They're going to release. Oh, where's the accountability? You didn't see anything here. What is, that's why they should. That's why they should let the state handle it, but, um. They won't do that. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:23:11 I don't, I don't, I don't think they're going to do a bullshit investigation. And I'm going to tell you why. I really do believe. And I said this, you know, uh, on breakfast club because, you know, everybody likes to use the 1930s, 1940s analogy, right? Like, oh my God, you know, this is like, what's that shit called? Just said, what is it called, Chris? Stopo.

Starting point is 01:23:30 Stop old, you know. And I'm like, well, one thing to remember is the Nazis lost. Like the Nazis ultimately lost. Yes, we know all in the death and how tragic it was, but the Nazis ultimately lost. You know what happened after the Nazis lost? The regime was toppled and they were persecuted as war criminals. So all of these people that you see now, these ICE agents and the Christie Nomes and, you know, the Stephen Miller's of the world. I hope they know where this is going.

Starting point is 01:24:01 And I get it. They're trying it here in this country. But do know when you try those type of tactics, please look at the people whose tactics you're doing. Look at how that story ended for them. Because as I said earlier, you cannot look at a political movement that is anti-democratic anywhere in the world, damn near,

Starting point is 01:24:21 that hasn't gotten pushback culturally, institutionally, and legally at some point. Do not underestimate how much Americans love our freedom. We, the people, listen. Do not underestimate that. There's not a place in the world that is more entitled to freedom than Americans. Hey, they thought that the election was being stolen from them on January 6th. What the fuck did they do?

Starting point is 01:24:43 Do you know what I'm saying? Do not underestimate how much Americans love their freedom and how far they are willing to go to defend it. And don't underestimate how far the people that believed in you initially, how they will flip when they realized like, no, you don't. you're everything you told us they were. Listen, listen, I'm not going to lie. Trump had some very seductive talking points saying that he's going to stop wars around the world and we're just about spending hundreds of billions of dollars

Starting point is 01:25:07 and that money is going to be spent over here. Now, you could laugh at it, but there is a version. 77 million people bought into it. And he did a version of it the first term. That's the one thing I'll give him. Fair. So, I mean, I think that some people would even offer pushback about that. They'd be like, oh, but these other wars escalated, et cetera.

Starting point is 01:25:25 But there are certain things, obviously, You see the destruction coming out of Gaza. You're seeing dead babies every single day. And you're like, I want that stop now. I want that de-escalated immediately. Now they're building a four seasons in fucking Gaza. And you bought a place. So-

Starting point is 01:25:37 Shut the fuck up. That is not true. Hey, listen, internet. $200 million to spend. Two lives back to back, he just told. Right? That is not true. Don't run with that.

Starting point is 01:25:48 That people don't run with that one. Justice for the victims of Epstein. Like, there are a lot of things that he ran on, right? That were very seductive. that seemed possible and seemed very doable. And one by one, backtracking on these things that seem possible and doable, I will give them credit for de-escalating Israel-Palestine. Now, obviously, it hasn't been done.

Starting point is 01:26:08 There's still people getting killed. But the de-escalation has been significant. When we're, what we're seeing now, one by one, the promises, not being kept, and now complete flip-flops on them, you are going to erode any of the hope that people had that wanted them. And I think this right here is a breaking point simply from the fracturing of the factoring of the Constitution. Like, if you are a person that believes in the values of America, and you see this, and then you see the treatment of ICE,

Starting point is 01:26:34 even if you don't give a fuck about a single illegal immigrant here, but you see the way ICE is treating people that are legal residents, right? And all you need to do, and Mark brought up at this point, all you need to do is flip the paradigm, because if there was a Democrat in office, and they had an ICE-esque enforcement agency going around, checking your papers to see if you had a gun, and you kind of just look like you might have a gun,

Starting point is 01:26:58 so I'm going to need to see your papers for it. There would be outrage all over the streets about that. And openly saying that if you have an accident or your skin is a certain complexion, that's what happened in California. They actually passed a law. I think it was a law. I think it was a federal law, right?

Starting point is 01:27:10 There was something in California. Listen. Can I address one thing that you said, though, with the analogy to the Gestapo and, you know, people having to answer for the crimes in Norberg, the whole comparison to the Nazis. I saw some Jewish people online

Starting point is 01:27:24 going after that. That's bullshit to criticize that. When you make that analogy, that's honoring what happens. You're evoking the seriousness of this situation. I was raised as someone who lost, you know, relatives, I didn't know, but there are people, you know,

Starting point is 01:27:40 I knew my grandparents. Right. Their cousins and nieces and nephews died in the Holocaust. We were taught whenever you see the very hint of this thing start. Yeah, yeah. So this is a good example.

Starting point is 01:27:53 It's like, I think the term Nazi has been overused. We use Nazi for fucking everything anymore, right? And it's like, so I understand that immediate reaction to be like, why are we watering down what it means to be a Nazi? But this Gestapo situation, I think, is different. And when you're seeing the tactics use and they are mirrored and I'm sure maybe it was more severe over there, I don't think we need to compare which is worse.

Starting point is 01:28:15 But the same tactics, right? Like, I don't think any of us want to live in a country like that. I definitely don't think that we want to live in a country where we're seeing this every single day. But more importantly, we want people to want to come to America. And I think if people saw that, and I'm not talking about legally, but we want people to want to come to America legally. And if they think that they're walking down the street with an accent that they're going to get stopped by a mass guy with no fucking body cam, no name, they might think twice about that. Y'all ain't never had a driveway full of snow that's six feet high, bro, and been rescued by some

Starting point is 01:28:44 immigrants. That was amazing. That was all it took just one snowstorm. No, I already knew that, but I'm just telling you, and I'm just telling you, thank you. Thank you. you to those individuals. Yeah, well, you should have tipped them. I should have been a great thank you. I didn't have any pesos. Oh, my God. What?

Starting point is 01:29:02 What? I got them next time. Next time they're going to get blessed. Okay? You know how many pesos, $200 million? I don't know what you're talking about. You know how about what you're talking about? That's a lot.

Starting point is 01:29:11 I don't know what's a lot. But Chris said something that is very true, and I've heard a lot of my Jewish friends say this over the years. At the slightest hint of it, you're supposed to start ringing the fucking alarm because you always say, Chris, what did you say? He didn't kill six million Jews on day one. No, Chris says, ding, ding down. Man, shut up. What you're going to do now? What did you always say, Chris? Hitler wasn't Hitler on day one. There you go. He built up and he didn't

Starting point is 01:29:41 face enough resistance. And he tried one thing and it worked. And then he went in stages. So I actually think frame the conversation like this is better is going, because I think the knee-jerk reaction just a bit, he is Hitler. I think that the conversation going, hey, this is the slope. This is how, this is the spiral. This is how you get to this. And when these things go unchecked

Starting point is 01:30:02 and clearly this thing was checked, shout out to the people in Minneapolis and negative 20 going out there and protesting. Man, we need to think, America needs to be thanking God for the people in Minnesota right now who are pushing back because I'm telling you, as I said earlier,

Starting point is 01:30:14 they weren't trying to make you believe anything when they were telling you that you didn't see what you saw. That was strictly a test of That's what happens in authoritarian regimes. No, we dictate your reality. We tell you what the fuck happened and you ain't going to do shit about it. And I will give credit, obviously, I want to give credit to people on the left too that there are people on the left that are anti-gun that might have looked at this situation.

Starting point is 01:30:39 And they could have said they care so much about getting guns off the street. They could have said, yeah, we shouldn't have guns on the street. This is bad. You see what happens when they're gun there? And they were able to table that conversation and go, you have a constitutional right to carry. He was legally carrying, and this is a violation of that Constitution. If we later want to change that rule at a certain point in time, we can do that, but we're going to do that the diplomatic way, not the authoritarian way.

Starting point is 01:31:02 That shit ain't happening. I agree. If there's even a hit that they think guns are getting taken away or any gun rights that's taken away in America. I know. My point is the way that you would do it, I think, is through discourse. You would hope, right? And obviously, there's been limitations to the ability to carry guns. Like in New York, nobody can carry a fucking gun.

Starting point is 01:31:20 It's almost impossible to carry it. gun. And the Yorkers seem pretty much, well, I think it's very difficult to carry. I think they recently changed the law. Up until recently, up until recently. And I don't think many of us had an issue with it growing up here in New York City. I don't think any of us felt like a longing for it. Maybe there was a time where people could carry and then they no longer could and they were really frustrated by that being taken away from them. But again, this is not about whether you can or can't carry. I just think it's cool that people didn't bring up their own issues and take away from this moment. And they're probably people that could

Starting point is 01:31:50 I think it's very important Schultz for you to keep having this conversation. I think it's important for Rogan to keep having this conversation. Yeah. Because as I've always said, if you don't listen to Andrew Schultz on a regular basis, if you don't listen to Joe Rogan on a regular basis, then you're not going to understand the nuance of anything, right? So, yeah, I get it, you know? Like, y'all had Trump on, whatever, you know, you voted for him, whatever.

Starting point is 01:32:14 It's okay to say when somebody's wrong that you voted for. It's okay to say, hey, I don't agree with what. what the fuck that person did. And people will say, oh, shit, you should have known better. We're talking about the greatest con. We're talking about the Bill Belichick of con artists. And Donald J. Trump. Now, I used to hear people that grew up in New York City tell me how good of a con artist he was.

Starting point is 01:32:39 I'm like, nobody's that good. This man is good. Okay. I don't know why he's good as a con artist, but he's good as a con artist. If you got cons, you got cons. Right. Yeah. You feel like you got coming. I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah. When he came on the pod and he's like, yeah, we're going to go after the criminals.

Starting point is 01:32:57 Now they're not going after the criminals. Like, yeah, I definitely do. And I feel maybe naive to believe that. And I know that I'm sure there's other platforms where he's like, we're going to get him all out of here. So maybe he's saying whatever he's saying. 77 million people felt just like you. Yes. But like I think there are a lot of those 77 million that might feel different about immigration. Like immigration, to me, was an issue that I give up.

Starting point is 01:33:15 There's a lot of people who agree with what he's doing and how he's doing it. Then there's a whole other set of people who I feel like, got conned. And then there's a whole other set of people who probably just had like one or two issues and wasn't paying attention to everything else what the fuck you were saying? I think there's a lot of single issue voters out there.

Starting point is 01:33:29 And I think that, uh, and there's a lot of people who are, you know, voting on multiple issues. I think more important than the vote, though, is the fact that people look at your platform and how large your platform is. Yeah. And they feel like you amplified it.

Starting point is 01:33:42 But they're not wrong. Listen, I don't think there, I don't think any criticism is wrong. That's why I said in the beginning, like, I'm not doing this like win anybody over. I just think it's like the right thing to speak out again. especially people in my situation.

Starting point is 01:33:52 Because, like, I think there's a lot of people, you know, that, I think there's a lot of people that, like, sometimes they feel embarrassed or they feel shame or they don't want to get the public criticism. So they just kind of retreat to the base. And I think that's a lot of times what happens. It happens on the right. It happens on the left. Yeah. Because there's safety in the base. There's security in the base.

Starting point is 01:34:07 There's support in the base. There's positivity in the base, right? Like, as long as you just tow the company line, everybody's going to say you're a great guy. And that's just not who I am as a person, right? Like, I try to be a nuanced thinker. If he fucks up, I'm on it. A nuanced thinker. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 01:34:20 What the fuck? No, like... I heard thinker. Oh, I heard a nigga. I just had to make sure. At a time like this, Schultz, at a time like this. Glad you clarified. Because they're picking apart everywhere.

Starting point is 01:34:32 Yes, okay. All right? Yeah. Okay. It's important to me and I want to be able to call these different things out. And I'm going to do it. And if I get criticism before, that's completely okay. I'm not asking for anything from anybody.

Starting point is 01:34:44 It's my point. No, they're going to definitely criticize you, but I don't see the bottom. I don't see. I don't see anything wrong with saying, hey, that's wrong. Or, hey, I got that wrong. I don't see a problem with that. That should not be a problem for anybody.

Starting point is 01:34:57 Yeah, I think that people are really angry. And I think that when you're angry and you're emotional, you react often. That's okay. That's fine. I'm trying to do the right thing. You've got to try to do the right thing as much as you can in life.

Starting point is 01:35:07 And I'm going to make mistakes. We need to, first of all, push back on everything that's happening in America right now. And then we got a course correct. And you know what it's going to take to do that? Everybody. We the people.

Starting point is 01:35:20 All hands on, motherfucking deck. I think we'll get there. I think in this interim period where a lot of people kind of waking up to these things and seeing this stuff and like, you know, I think there's an initial reaction to it

Starting point is 01:35:30 in the same way that you guys felt about, you know, maybe white America not noticing this happening to Black America. George Floyd. I mean, I thought George Floyd was the reckoning and it seemed like it was for a second. But like the knee jerk reaction,

Starting point is 01:35:43 I'm sure immediately, the emotional reaction should be like, fuck you guys for not noticing that we've been enduring this shit for fucking decades, right? And what happens after? after that emotional feeling, right, which is completely justified, is, okay, at least they're seeing shit, they're on the right side, let's move forward. So I think we're in this period where a lot of people are opening up and seeing that these criticisms were not just like lunatic, left wing, you know, extreme leftist shit, but that some of them have a great validity, as we're seeing with ice here.

Starting point is 01:36:11 Yeah. And there's going to be a moment of anger with that. There's a moment where people are like, fuck you for not noticing it. Listen. Fuck you for having them on your pod. and me personally I think like I'm okay with having a president on on the pot I don't think if you had them on now what would you what would you ask so I thought about that like if I had him on out like I asked everything I wanted to ask about immigration and I don't think that

Starting point is 01:36:31 changed the way that people perceived it I think they're just frustrated that he was on in the first place with now would it be more questions or more direct like what the fuck are you doing well I think I think the thing is I think the thing is they're going to lie so like the other thing that's very important Mark said this on on flagrant but he was just like they all lie and they have to lie and they have to lie because they have special interest groups that they have to service. So it's, to me, the conversation is really about having politicians, especially campaigning politicians on the pod, because it's like they're not going to tell you the truth.

Starting point is 01:36:59 And then you become accountable for allowing them to lie to you. And the lies haven't even been proven yet because they're not in office. So you've got a bunch of people going, hey, they're lying right there. Why didn't you point that out? And then you got other people going, I hope that they do that. And then you're in the middle and you hold the responsibility for them saying those things on your platform, which is the nature and the responsibility of having people on, but it does make it,

Starting point is 01:37:23 I understand why media is fractured into just left and right because it's easier to go on being like, I'm going to support and defend every single left thing or I'm going to support and defend every single right thing because if you do that, at least your base will not be upset with what you did. Yeah, I think one of the most important things we can do right now is stop asking answers.

Starting point is 01:37:46 And what I mean by that is like, When you see something like this and you know it's wrong, don't pose it as a question. Or like when Chris, when you were talking about the people going door to door and, you know, they don't have warrants and they can say they say they can force their way in without a warrant. Like don't ask, can you force your way in without a warrant?

Starting point is 01:38:06 You know you can't. Well, so speak. I think the question is like, why are they able to go in without a warrant? You can ask. They can't. Yeah, but you can't ask questions. Like, and they would go, oh, they have this federal administrative thing, which is just like a way around the system, which is bullshit.

Starting point is 01:38:20 But shouldn't we acknowledge that it is unconstitutional to force yourself and somebody's home without warrant? What I'm trying to say is there might be people not familiar with the Fourth Amendment. I wasn't familiar with the Fourth Amendment until I started research in this. Okay. So like asking questions is never bad. It depends how you ask them. Okay, let me take it back.

Starting point is 01:38:35 It depends who's asking them. If I'm watching CNN and somebody says to me, are you allowed to bring your gun to a protest if you have a concealed carry permit in a state that permits you to, carry a concealed weapon? You know the answer to that. So why are you asking it as a question? Again, if you're

Starting point is 01:38:55 asking it in bad faith, then yeah, that's fucked up. If you're genuinely going, I'm seeing the Trump administration call him out for bringing his gun to a protest. Is there some weird caveat in license to carry where you're not allowed to do it at a protest? That's the point. I'm making Schultz.

Starting point is 01:39:11 It shouldn't be you even having to think that. It should be people, whether it's journalists, news reporters. I don't know, fuck, even us telling people the accurate information. Like, when I turn on CNN, MSNBC, or any of these news channels, I want facts. When I open up the New York Times, I want facts. I don't want to be on TV asking questions because people at home, now it becomes a debate. Well, well, is it?

Starting point is 01:39:33 Is it? Like, no, it's not a debate. Some things are just constitutional facts. Yeah, I guess, like, we can disagree on values. We can disagree on policy. I love this. We cannot debate shared facts. But the problem is I think a lot of people, and myself included, cannot recite the Constitution from memory.

Starting point is 01:39:54 You know, I don't know the details of every single one of the details of the bill of rights. Like, I understand that there are. Hey, man, I just learned four this week. Okay. That's what I'm saying. Okay. It's like, I don't want to stop people from asking questions, right? I want people to be able to ask questions.

Starting point is 01:40:09 And if they are asking questions in good faith because they see something that they feel is wrong and it's being defended, I think that's a great question I ask. Because the answer that question is going to give you all the information you need. You're right. But that's why the Christenorms of the world do that. That's why they jump out there and put that information out. They put misinformation out. Because they want us debating. Because as soon as you hear their facts, you're like, no, that's not what happened.

Starting point is 01:40:29 They don't want you debating. They want you silent. So what they want to do is they want to give their base enough information to be apathetic. They want to give their base enough information to just remove themselves from the discourse. Right? So they want to create enough confusion that people go, well, am I stupid if I ask a question? That's why I think it's important to people ask questions. When you see something that looks like institutionally wrong, I think it's important to ask.

Starting point is 01:40:54 Don't get into that situation where you're afraid to ask. Are you afraid that you look stupid or you don't know enough? Because that's where they want you. They want you stupid and not knowing enough so they can do whatever the fuck they want. I don't disagree with that. I just don't want certain outlets asking answers. Like if you know the answer to a question, tell me the answer. Give me the fact.

Starting point is 01:41:13 And then maybe we can discuss the first. fact. You know what I mean? Like, discuss why it's wrong. But it's like, don't tell me I didn't see what I just saw. We can't disagree on a shared fact. We saw what happened. And the Constitution is shared facts, right? It's like the one thing that binds. It doesn't matter of religion you are. It doesn't matter. You know, if you're an atheist, it doesn't matter how you feel about the word. You're left or right. Like, these are the words that make us all American. And this is what we subscribe to. And this is what we adhere to. And when you see that being manipulated or when you see that just being torn apart, your knee-jerk reaction should be frustration and anger,

Starting point is 01:41:52 and then you've got to find a way to do something with that anger. Now, you could be silent about it, and that's totally cool. It might be easier for that. Shit. Nope, I need you to speak out. Well, that's the thing. I think that, yeah, I think this is maybe, the easier thing is always just to retreat wherever you're going to be protected. I think the better thing to do as, like, a human being is to try to do the right thing. And I think that calling out this bullshit is the right thing. And you're right. And people are going to give you shit and they're going to write their think pieces

Starting point is 01:42:19 and make their videos and they're going to dunk. That's fine. Let them. Just don't look at their nuts the way Diddy did on that fucking meme. Can we do some asking idiots? Let's do some asking idiots. Let's do it. Tell a gang, gang, gang, gang, went to a Bahamas got pregnant again.

Starting point is 01:42:43 I do not spread that. Six days pregnant. Six days pregnant. If I do have another child, That's not until like three years from now. You're pregnant right now? No, I'm not. Six days.

Starting point is 01:42:54 What do we got? Ask an idiots. Hit us, Taylor. What we got, Taylor, gang. What we got. What we got, Taylor, gang, what we got. What are some books that made you change your perspective on your own life? John underscore boy.

Starting point is 01:43:11 Who? He was reading the Instagram. Oh, I thought you said, how to turn a man into a boy. I was like, what the fuck is that? John underscore boy. Man, so many. The autobiography of Michael Max, a message to the black man by Elijah Muhammad,

Starting point is 01:43:26 from niggas to gods, the four agreements, The Secret by Rhonda Byrne. What's from Niggas to Guy? Who's wrote that? It's written by A Kill. It was big in the jails, and I don't know who Akil is,

Starting point is 01:43:38 but he just literally wrote about what it's going on in society and what we need to be doing as individuals to better ourselves. Like his whole thing was not about, he wasn't putting no blame on anything else like he was like yo you know what this system is you know you know what what what america is about but you have to be better so it was about from evolving from the N-word to gods that was a great book um so many books man every judey bloom book changed

Starting point is 01:44:06 my perspective on life what's that one you have every july every judy bloom book from all you there god it's me margaret to blubber to you know tells them for fourth grade nothing like i mean every Judy Blum book changed my perspective on my life. Because my mom used to always tell me to read things that don't pertain to me. So when I started reading those books that didn't pertain to me like the Judy Blume, but just started to change my perspective

Starting point is 01:44:29 on where I was at in that moment, growing up on that dirt road in Mountaine's Carolina. So I mean, that's what books do. They change your perspective on life. What was it called? 10 laws of power? 48. 48 laws of power.

Starting point is 01:44:41 Yes, 48. 48 laws of power. 48 laws of power. 48 laws of power. Yeah, I mean, that didn't really change my perspective on life though. Not from my... Well, you know what it did.

Starting point is 01:44:49 It made me realize that there are people who've read books like this and they are constantly trying to implement you know, these things to get over on you. So it's good to have the information,

Starting point is 01:45:01 I think. Yeah, I'm trying to think a book that changed my perspective on life. Playboy, Pinnhouse? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:45:11 That's a good question. Like, I've read books that I was like, oh my God, this is amazing. Say again? I haven't finished the Bible. Are your books, Charlotte? What did you think, Chris?

Starting point is 01:45:23 What is your perspective on life? I wrote it. Perspective on life. All right. So, like, there's a woman named Elena Parante, I believe, or that's her pseudonym. They don't know who it really is. An Italian novelist who writes about two girls growing up

Starting point is 01:45:36 in post-World War II Naples in Italy. And my wife was telling me for years. You've got to read these books. These are the most, and I was like, I'm not. I don't give a shit about two. Girls in World War II. You know, I put up, when I started,

Starting point is 01:45:51 I think there's six of them, maybe five of them. The most amazing books. Really? I've ever read in my life. I mean, HBO ended up making a series about it, which is actually very good. Did they hook up? Yes.

Starting point is 01:46:01 What? Did they end up hooking up in the book? The two friends? Yeah. That's a good question. I don't think so, but it definitely, there's elements of that. I mean, but it, it's an example of reminding you

Starting point is 01:46:12 that people that you think you have nothing in common. with it, you couldn't possibly be interested in their lives, their circumstance. You get very drawn into it. Yeah. Not to be hokey, but like the universal experience is real, right? And I think what's been remind you of that. I completely agree. Cluando 36, fellas, how do you stay in the pocket when your kids keep testing you?

Starting point is 01:46:38 Ooh. Tough one. You got to walk away. You got to, yeah, you got to just take a minute. Test you in what way? I walked away last night. What happened? What happened?

Starting point is 01:46:51 We got girls too late. I had a bad scene last night. I had, what? What happened? I did get punk. Oh, uh, I had an accident. Like, peed in your pants? Close.

Starting point is 01:47:02 A little sharp. Okay, okay. I'm right. I tell my daughter, hey, handle this. The fuck, do you fucking shit in your pants? What's the matter with you? And I was like, you deserve that, Chris. Well, you're bad.

Starting point is 01:47:14 You're going to five years old. You have all your faculties. Where were you? I was walking my dog, came back in. I thought I was a little fart. No. I was like, oh my God.

Starting point is 01:47:24 She's like what? I was like, you know, wait, what it? That's not testing you though. No, all you motherfuckers. I need support in that moment.

Starting point is 01:47:36 All you motherfuckers who be in the chat talking about Chris is the brilliant one in the idiots. Okay? He's just as idiotic as us. All right. We were just talking on camera about. No one's brilliant. I think he was making some real.

Starting point is 01:47:50 Vulnerability. I'm being vulnerable right. No, I think I think Chris is smart. I'm not mad at you. I can't think you asked. You missed what I just said, but I think Chris is smart. Oh, so you wanted her to help with the dog while you go clean up? I got to go take care of myself.

Starting point is 01:48:01 Got you. Got you. Okay, okay, okay. So you want, no, no, come on. So I was like, wait, what? Okay, so you asked, that's what you explained. I want to be belittled by my own kid. I don't want my own kid, chasing.

Starting point is 01:48:14 Oh, don't tell her the truth. You know, I got to take a shit. You gotta handle the truth. No, I wouldn't have told I shard it because now I'm like, mom, how old is that again? I thought he was just 55. That is some shit, Chris, clearly. You don't tell your kids about that stuff? I happened to me the other.

Starting point is 01:48:29 I sharded before I went on stage a few weeks ago by accident. I didn't notice until I was on stage and my butt started getting cold. Too shitty legends. Yeah, because the wet starts to get cold. And I was like, why is my butt cold? And I got off stage and I went to the bathroom. You didn't realize that you sharded? No, I thought.

Starting point is 01:48:44 I thought it was just a fart. And I, like, leaned into it too. I like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Your farts are usually wet? No, no. When it, when shit comes out with it, it's not a log. It's like a diarrhea. Think about all of you left that show saying, your show is this shit.

Starting point is 01:48:58 You're like, yo, you know what? Y'all have no fucking idea. You're right. It's a gray area. Yes. And then this is the best. Yes. Y'all don't know y'all bows, bro?

Starting point is 01:49:09 Sent us his underwear with the shit. Ew. I had to take my underwear off at the club. And I had to throw it in the toilet. I had to throw it in the toilet because it was just full of shit. He needed all of us to know about this shit. I needed to share that with somebody. Oh, scroll back up, Taylor.

Starting point is 01:49:27 There was some good shit up there, man. Hold on. Let's do a couple more. Do you think Studs stand up when they pee? Absolutely. How do you do that? They got the strap. They got the shit that they can pee in.

Starting point is 01:49:39 With the funnel? Yeah, with the funnel joint. Absolutely. The turkey baster. Absolutely stud stand up when they pee. Or they probably just like squirt over the toilet. Nah. The girls do that anyway.

Starting point is 01:49:50 No, the other way, no. Oh, facing it. Yeah. What? Reverse cowgirl. They be doing that? Y'all do that? First of all, I'm not stud, so don't even try it.

Starting point is 01:50:00 How can you reverse cowgirl or toilet? Oh, you mean you sit on it? Like how you say you jerk off last week. Remember when you were saying you sit on the toilet seat? Was it the top of the toilet? That's still wild. My boy hit me up about that. I tell you to text my boy,

Starting point is 01:50:15 I got to tell you, my boy. Shout out of my boy Jason. What, fan? My boy Jason hit me up. This shit was cracking. What Jason said? Jason then jacked off on top of the toilet. So Jason cut it out, man.

Starting point is 01:50:27 He said this shit, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Where is it? Oh, man, I got to get it. Okay, he goes, he goes, this is on Sunday, just hits me up, he goes, put the pot on at the gym. Charlotte's a wild boy. He goes, got caught being gay and then claimed he sits on the toilet seat covered naked. He goes, that boy is wild.

Starting point is 01:50:57 Imagine touching the toilet seat cover to lift it up when someone just jerked off on him. It lifts up by itself. You can give you that. It lifts up by itself. I don't touch it. And I don't share a toilet. That shit. My wife got her own toilet.

Starting point is 01:51:13 He goes, I was looking at the topics on the Apple podcast, and I saw there was 10 minutes about masturbating. So I went straight to that section. He goes, only logical explanation was he got caught saying he only jerks off when the bidet sprays his ass and then try to walk it back. Because there's literally no way he sits on the toilet seat cover naked. Well, I would think. pictures, but that would be kind of crazy.

Starting point is 01:51:44 Man, that was a great breakdown by Jay. That shit was good. Listen, would Chris be pro-Trump if you wanted to eliminate Moped's? I'd think about it, but no. Damn. Damn, Chris. Mopeds mean that much to you, Chris? Looking out for the audience. Oh, this is a good one.

Starting point is 01:52:04 If a white person, Zach Romino says, if a white person powders their face to look like Michael Jackson is that black face. Yeah. It is still black face. If a white person out of their face puts white powder to look like white Michael Jackson. Yeah, but he's still black at the end of the day. Oh, that is a good one. He's black, though.

Starting point is 01:52:26 No, white is ours. No, he is black. We could be any version of white. So you're still trying to imitate a black person. I will say this, though. But the, go, go. But he was trying to imitate a white. This is Michael Jackson, bro.

Starting point is 01:52:40 Like, Michael is one of the. most iconic characters, caricatures ever in pop culture. Think about all of the freaking imitations that Michael Jackson has now. So, many Michael Jackson impersonators now. So if I put on some white powder in the glove and the hair,

Starting point is 01:52:57 am I really doing blackface? I'm really Michael Jackson. I hate to say this, but Michael kind of transcends race. He kind of does, yo. He kind of. He absolutely does, right? Like, there's certain people you think about, You know, like Michael Jackson, you're like, okay, that's Michael Jackson. Like, Bruce Lee, you like, that's Bruce Lee.

Starting point is 01:53:17 Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, who else? Bob Barley. Bruce Lee still Asian. Is he? Yeah. Or, what's his name? What's that?

Starting point is 01:53:27 How the hell they named him Bruce? That's not a very Asian name. Well, he's born in America. He's a quarter white. Oh, he's a quarter white. Yeah. Always, bro. It's always.

Starting point is 01:53:43 It's always, bro. That's how you know there's some kind of system in place here. Bob Marley, a quarter white. That's how you know he's halfway. There's some sort of system here.

Starting point is 01:53:53 What about the rock? Called fucking slavery. Colonization. I'm talking about elevating the minorities with a little bit of whiteness. Yes, but he's the only Asian who didn't live to 100. Probably the white side.

Starting point is 01:54:05 But he was killed. He was killed. That's true. Wasn't he? What did they say that he died from? I had a fantastic. Misadventure is the official term. What was that?

Starting point is 01:54:15 Misadventure. What does that mean? It means they don't know. But misadventure suggests that it wasn't completely natural. The conspiracy theory is he was poisoned by- by producers in Hong Kong who didn't want him leaving their system or something like that. Making movies in Hollywood.

Starting point is 01:54:34 Right. He was with a woman, an actress that he was in a movie with. Right. I think the official story is he was taking some sort of weight loss medication which like blocked his pores and he couldn't sweat and he might have smoked hashish and the combination

Starting point is 01:54:52 basically like his body went into overdrive but I think the official cause given by the police was death by misadventure. You know a part of Bruce Lee's story that I loved that nobody talks about the philosophical aspect. Bro, he got some. fire quotes, bro. The water quote is by far

Starting point is 01:55:12 my favorite one. Be like water. Be like water. But he said, I'm not in this world to live up to your expectations. You're not in this world to live up to mind. Be like water, making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object. And you shall find a way around or through it.

Starting point is 01:55:29 If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind. Be formless. Shapeless like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes a bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.

Starting point is 01:55:44 Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. He said, do, I mean, they're so simple. Do not pray for an easy life. Pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Because life will never be easy. X. So imagine praying for an easy life.

Starting point is 01:56:02 Life ain't easy. Now you stressed out, you know what I'm saying? You're mad at your creator? No, nobody told you life was going to be easy. you're a spiritual being living a human existence. So pray for the strength to endure a difficult life. This is one of my favorite ones. He got so many.

Starting point is 01:56:18 Adapt what is useful. Reject what is useless. And add what is specifically your own. Adapt what is useful. Reject what is useful. Think about that when in when when comes to criticism. And add what is specifically your own. Every day somebody criticizing you.

Starting point is 01:56:39 Okay. some of it might be true. I'm adapt what is useful. Take what's useful. Reject what it's useless. You're just talking. You just hate it. And add what is specifically your own.

Starting point is 01:56:50 Forget what everybody else says. What can you do to do? Exactly. Don't feel failure. Not failure, but low aim is decrymed. In great attempts, it is glorious even to fail. Pram Bruce had snaps. Do you think there's ever going to be a, he was such a cultural,

Starting point is 01:57:10 icon on a certain level. Michael Jackson, another one. There's only, there's only like four. I thought about it today. They're like franchises. They're not people. Can, I don't think because of the way that media and storytelling is like so fractured now, can anybody ever transcend that level going forward? I mean, maybe Trump has in a way, kind of. I don't, you know what? That's a great question, Chris. I don't know because I don't know how these people were received when they were alive. Like, all of us right now are looking back on it. I don't know how, I don't know how these people. Like, we know Martin Luther King Jr. wasn't received, but he wasn't loved by everybody. Same thing with Bob Marley.

Starting point is 01:57:46 Another reggae guy playing to 50 people in California somewhere, right? Like, by dying young. Yeah. You do add to the. We were alive with Tupac, right? He's a very big deal, though. He was, but we didn't think that he'd become, did you ever think Park would become this cultural icon on the level of a Bob Marley?

Starting point is 01:58:03 Like, I honestly think there's only four. I think it's Bruce Lee, Bob Marley. I could name a few Elvis was one and who somebody else he just said I mean Muhammad Ali Mike Tyson

Starting point is 01:58:19 Nah No I think Mike You think Mike Tyson I can't put Mike on that level Not with not with Ali Bruce Lee In terms of Michael Jackson

Starting point is 01:58:28 In terms of cultural icon Jordan Oh Jordan I think it was easier back in the day Because you could control the narrative There was just less people talking about you and the people that did talk about you, some of them were, like, committed to your excellence.

Starting point is 01:58:42 Like, you know, I think ESPN wanted Michael Jordan to be incredible because people wanted to watch the highlights of Michael Jordan. Whereas now with, like, a democratized internet, information, anybody can kind of say anything. It's easier to humble the heroes. Is there anyone out there now who is on that level? It's a bunch.

Starting point is 01:59:05 I mean, I don't know. I was about to say it's a bunch, but they're famous, right? Like, and they're known for being famous now. People that we're talking about, they kind of did things that broke the mold in different ways. Like, Muhammad Ali, not fighting in the Vietnam War. Michael Jackson, what he did in regards to publishing. No internet. Obama is on that list.

Starting point is 01:59:27 You think so? With internet, he's not. I think Kanye is flirted with it. I think Kanye fucked his shit up. That's what I'm saying. I mean, but... Yeah, I'm saying... The people we named

Starting point is 01:59:38 didn't fuck their shit up. Yeah, but like, think about Obama, right? He goes, rips two terms, loved. Yes, obviously there's people that criticize him, but, like, I think people thought that he represented America with, like, a dignity that we felt proud of. And let's say he finishes, continues to be part of the party, but there isn't this, like, constant onslaught to, like, tear him down.

Starting point is 02:00:01 But then again, you could say the same thing about, like, Reagan and Republicans love Reagan, and then there was a constant. I just don't think Obama couldn't fight. I think it's too early. He didn't jump in the air and stuff in. Mohammed Aliad, but he could move on. You understand? So you need a special physical stuff?

Starting point is 02:00:17 You gotta have some type of special physical something that actually changes the world. By the way, these people change the world. I don't think Barack Obama changed the world. I think he did. I don't think he did. During his... I think he was a great politician,

Starting point is 02:00:32 the great American president. He might have... I don't think he changed the world. I think he gave hope to a lot of black and brown people that the impossible is possible. When I go to these other countries, I don't see his mural, bro. There's a Barack Obama bar in Barcelona. That's how crazy. You sure is Barack?

Starting point is 02:00:52 Yes. They have a big statue of him. You sure it was Barack? Yeah. That's crazy. They had... I did. I don't know. They had a...

Starting point is 02:01:01 Mandela? Yeah, Mandela. Yeah, Mandela. I don't think we understand the impact of it. Mandela? I think they're like, you know, maybe, I don't know, I'm not old enough, certainly. Like, we understand what it is. Oh, definitely. I mean, definitely any, yeah, the Beatles. But I don't know. I'm not one enough to understand it. I guess I'm talking about symbols, like cultural, iconic figures who represent just something like Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson,

Starting point is 02:01:23 Bruce Lee, Muhammad Ali. I think it's early to say, but Martin Luther King. Bad Bunny's heading. Oh, get the, I. He's headed that. He's headed that direction. All right, man. As always, as always, he's a international star. Why are this show got to to be so diverse. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots. You don't know shit. You're right to. It's the brilliant idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace. Spotify, it's Jay Shetty. Are you one of those media strategy people scrolling through spreadsheets, searching for an audience that pays twice as much attention to

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