The Brilliant Idiots - Heaven Yelp Me (Feat. Kaz and Akaash)

Episode Date: September 5, 2019

This Week the Flagrant 2 boys Kaz & Akaash stop by with Charlamange and Andrew and they discuss, Malik Yoba’a comments, Charlamange talks about being on HBO’s The Shop and the conversations the ep...isode started, and more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:21 You guys hear this? Well, he probably is because he's probably warming up to do a stand-up. Well, apparently he got the bag from Netflix, so that's the rumor. but comedy hype just posted. I don't know how real it is that he's going back on tour. That's big news. I'm nervous about it because
Starting point is 00:01:35 I don't think you should start with a tour. How do you think you should have started? You got to start with going to the clubs. You got to do five minutes at a time. You can't do this shit an hour at a time. You think that he could just sneak into some hole in the wall spot and just... Yes, I think that would be the best thing for Eddie Murphy.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I think that takes away expectations. I think that takes away pressure. I think that... Remember when Chappelle had went away for a while? Exactly. And then when he got back, he was just floating. floating through the clubs and everybody like, I went to a couple of those.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I saw Chappelle there. That's what Eddie should do. Oh, I should also introduce our guests. Do they need an introduction? We got the Flagher two boys in a building. Do they need an introduction? We got a Kaas Singh and one of the guys that assaulted Jussie Smolet in here.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Kazan got thick on us. Juicy. Casals like he playing this weekend. In that league that black people are fake boycott. Black people still boycott the NFL? Boycott the NFL? Man, listen, that was the hard. hardest three weeks in my life, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Your brass knuckles fell out, bro. It happens. That's the blackest thing I left to see. God damn, all right? It happens. It's pretty safe over here in Tribeca. I always have them. You say that.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I've been jumped twice over here. Oh, well, that's true. That's true. That was with the old face, the new face that I've been jumping. That is true. New face is a little disarming. Like, oh, he's a nice guy. Leave him alone.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Now, what you were saying about beating up juicy small? I didn't beat up juicy small. I said that those three weeks I boycotted the NFL with the hardest three weeks in my life. Did you know why you were boycotting? Maybe, so you know how hard that shit was for it. Yeah, that was right. No, what's fucked up?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Like, you know. Anytime anybody asks me, you know, boy, I'm like, you know. That's all my cat. That's all my guy. The fuck is wrong to God. I love football, man. What the fuck, bro? Damn.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I had to notice a sentence. I can't notice a sentence. The hardest three weeks in my life? I think you've been through the hardest three weeks in your life, and there wasn't no fucking me that did it, bro. I mean, he's got a point, Cass. I can't notice a crazy sentence is all. That is a good point.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I can't know what we were going there. Jesus Christ, gosh. I mean, that's wrong, baby. I mean, Cass didn't use no K-Y, I knew nothing. I needed that. I needed that. I needed that. I didn't find this Popeye's chicken sandwiches
Starting point is 00:03:55 just a whole four three weeks in my life. You keep throwing out a lot of hardest three weeks in your life, fam. It's a lot of hardest three weeks of your life. The cops came through with the nuke for no reason. What's the cast do to you? I needed it. I needed it. No, you did it.
Starting point is 00:04:10 That wasn't weird to anybody else? Cats came back from Cancun. He was like, the pollen is a motherfucker. I got a heat rash and shit. I'm like, I got a heat rash too in this weekend. Oh, God. Jesus Christ. I don't know he was supposed to wear Suntan loss of man.
Starting point is 00:04:29 This has been really difficult for me. I'm offended, bro. You need to be canceled. Hey, bro. I can't believe you would just do that. You want to subscribe to me in the first place. You go ahead and cancel my guy. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Oh, God damn it. I'm watching NFL, baby. I'm watching NFL, baby. You're team Jay? I'm team Cowboys. If you mean Jay, Jerry Jones, baby. He got that deal. Zee got that bag, baby.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Yeah. He's going to be there for another two. He's going to trade him in two years. No, you got to go. Six years, 90 million, 50 million guaranteed. He's good. So, Dach's not getting signed another one. He's going to end that money.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Dax's going to get paid. You got to pay your quarterback. But I just, I don't know. I don't like paying him running back that much. Yeah. How many of the years is he been in the league? Yes, the third year. Yeah, he got about three more good ones.
Starting point is 00:05:17 He ain't going to end it. He's not going to finish that contract on the Cowboys. He's not going to finish the contract. Period. No, he's not going to finish. He's guaranteed. He got 50 guaranteed. That's the only money he's going to finish.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah, he pulls that shit he pulled this summer. Guarantee he ends up on like the fucking like dolphins or some shit. What's wrong with holding out until you get your bread, though? I don't have a problem with him holding out. I just wouldn't have paid him off gavel. It's running back, though. It's running back. That's all the more reason to do it because you know your window is short. As soon as you got a nice, cheaper alternative.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Oh, they're getting them out. I got my 50 million guarantee. Yeah, but that's why you got to hold out if you're sitting. Absolutely. I wouldn't have signed him, but I also 100% under your white. You wouldn't have signed Zeke? I wouldn't get him. The best running back in the league right now?
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah, I know. You can find running backs. And you're a Cowboys fan? Yeah, exactly. If you can find running backs, then how come we haven't had one, like, Zieg since Emmett fucking Smith? He's the best we've had since Emmett Smith,
Starting point is 00:06:04 but you could have had, they've had good running backs for much cheaper. DeMarco Murray was good for much cheaper. Del Margo Murray had, like, a good two seasons when he was that dude. Yeah, he's not as good as Zeke in anyway, but he's also about $12 million of your cheaper. Marion Barber got us nowhere. $14 million of your cheaper.
Starting point is 00:06:18 You know what I mean? Who's the last marquee running back to win a Super Bowl? God damn. Last marquee running back. In this era, I can't think of Noba. Who the fuck was it? They don't win Super Bowls. That's what I'm trying to say, running backs, wide receivers are useless.
Starting point is 00:06:30 But if you got both, though. You had Levyon Bell if you're Pittsburgh, then he held out, and you had James Connor be almost as good for way less money. And you're going to still lose in the second round anyway. So you might as well lose in the second round anyway for way less. No, the Cowboys would be a high issue. They should be. They should be good. They should be good.
Starting point is 00:06:47 They didn't make the playoffs, to be honest, but whatever. That's also they had all this drama with Antonio Brown. Right. It was just like a lot. You heard about him getting fine today, right? Antonio Brown is. So all those preseason practice he missed and all the bullshit he was going on to, I think he got fined like $48,000 or some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And you went on Instagram talking about like, yo, I'm going to make everybody pay for this. This is BS. Not if you don't have a good season, my brother. Facts. You don't have a good season. They don't give a fuck about you in that. He's a wide receiver. You can talk all the shit you want if you ball out.
Starting point is 00:07:17 If you don't, bye. He's a wide receiver, man. I don't understand how you could be that fucking arrogant, knowing that you absolutely need somebody else to be good for you to be good. When you're going to play, bro? You don't got thick on us, can't? You know, my depression. This is my depression.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Thick. Five times, dude. He walked up to him, he goes, damn, you are thick. Because I got my thigh meat out. There's no, hey, I'm sorry. Hey, hey, how are you doing? You don't start off with tragedy, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:46 What did you start off with fucking calling him fat? That's what you started off with? Shane? You are, you're shaving them. For a man this big, this is a nice lungs, bro. Legged, dog. Dude, this is... God damn.
Starting point is 00:07:58 How much you can get it for him at the con-common? Dog, I can't go back with somebody's defensive end or some shit. You look healthy, though. Yeah, you're like, you're in shape. I mean, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I'm gonna tell you something because I'm a portion aside. I saw somebody yesterday, fat shame, and I cried laughing. Somebody said something to him on Instagram. Oh, did you fire a trainer? I'm like, what are? And you was like, it's called depression, bro.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I can lie. I laughed. because I do like a little misery, just a little. Right? And so I laugh. Not Akash levels. Not Akash levels. Not like this motherfucker, real.
Starting point is 00:08:34 That's a little. That's a little. I like that's all. I like the response more because Cass posted a video, he was having a great time on stage. I was having a great in America. Ducezapalooza.
Starting point is 00:08:43 These motherfuckers on social media won't let you be great? Yeah, that's fucking you. Oh, you got the crowd hype? I did you have fun. You got the crowd hype? You and your little Ducey Palluzza crew? No, that's up with your trainer, bro.
Starting point is 00:08:54 That's just look out of breath, but it looks for me. Bro. You saw I had to take like breaks in between these songs. I was like, all right, hold up. You could barely hold up
Starting point is 00:09:02 the super song. There was one scene when Cad first came out with the water, that bounced across that stage, took him out. He was done. He was done for the rest of performance.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Listen, if my leg bent down anymore, that's like two ACLs. I was gone immediately. I had no weight on that. What on that? You took a knee? No, I'm just saying like,
Starting point is 00:09:21 just the energy and shit, like bouncing up and down. Buconia? Bunting up and down. Damn, the ACLs ain't as strong as they used to be, bro. Boycott and Hennessy, we are duce. All right? We don't speak those.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Don't mention the other guys on this podcast, God damn. Jesus Christ. This is a dooce podcast, God damn. That comment did make me chuckle. And that's the one when I was looking to see how much weight you had gained you. Because I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell from the video. How much weight you think you gained, bro?
Starting point is 00:09:48 How much weight I get? I definitely put on like a good, like, 15, at least in the past. What? A freshman 15? Yeah, but like I'm bit. Like, I got, like, big limbs and shit, so it looks different. Yeah. Like, if I was, like, linkier, then it probably wouldn't be as.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. Is Alex zooming in on you right now? Don't, like, that time meat. Damn, I need this fat shit. I'm gonna call him. I'm gonna close you up. I need to get back on my trainer. That's your trainer?
Starting point is 00:10:12 That's my trainer, yeah. Shout my man Irv, yo. He trains me. That is terrible timing to have that tragedy happen, and then Popeye's dropped the chicken sandwich. I mean, not for nothing. This is going to lead to weight gain. Not for nothing, though.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I don't want to talk about chicken this episode. we OD'd on chicken Bro You know how many things We learned last episode Ocash? Yeah Bro first of all we learned about
Starting point is 00:10:33 Black people's love for chicken Is on another level How did you just learn this? No I thought it was a stereotype We all know this How like important it was And like But time about who doesn't love chicken
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah but this is different This is different How? That's what his point is Is that it's a different level It's a different level of love You know how much shit We got to do the chicken
Starting point is 00:10:52 For us to love it Y'all just eat it however No seasoning What are you talking about? I mean, just... Oh, yeah, you do a lot to it. Not you. I still don't know the demo of people that was buying that fucking chicken sandwich, yo. I'm in that demo.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I bought that show. I bought that sandwich. It was really good. We bought multiple. It wasn't until like... Again, you went back? No, I haven't gone back. Oh.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I saw a line. Like, Asians are into it now. Yeah. It's crossed over. It's break dancing. It's the new... It's the new Supreme. It's the new Supreme.
Starting point is 00:11:19 It's the new break dancing. It's a new break dancing. It's great. It is, bro. There was a line outside of them hype-ease. Asians were so fucking ready to get some pimples off that shit. I had enough of it when I saw them break it to the store with guns. You know they'd be breaking out, bro.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Oh, my God. That's what I knew it was too much. Fun's over. They broke into the store. They broke into Houston with guns because they didn't have no more chicken sandwiches. Really? So they stormed it with guns and like, yo, we know y'all got chicken back there. As if a limited supply doesn't mean limited supply.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Like, everything is good until supplies last. When there's no more supplies, it's a wrap. Like, you can't magically bake supplies from scratch. Yeah. If there's no more fucking chicken patties, it's no more chicken patties. there's no more chicken patties. And that's that. So do you still think we like chicken the same, can?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Given that information, how do you feel about our house? Beyonce has a lifetime card to Popeyes. Popeyes gave her a card that allows her to get Popeye's chicken for the rest of her life. Is she vegan? Yeah, but she's had this since like 0-3-02. I played the clip this morning on the breakfast club. When she was on Oprah, she told Oprah that. Lifetime supply of Popeye's for life.
Starting point is 00:12:20 So you think she knew about this chicken sandwich way early? I mean, we've all, we've loved Popeyes forever. Like, I was telling my guy eating that owns hunting fish club, he was like, you know, Popeyes is on the map now. So I'm like, bro, we always love Popeye. I've been calling Popeyes, Popeye's chicken, and nigger cookies forever. I have. I love for, I've been eating Popeyes.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Like, Popeyes ain't nothing new. What is an N-word cookie? A biscuits. Yeah, biscuits. That's the most hilarious thing ever. It's fact. It's back. Did a white invent that or a black invent that?
Starting point is 00:12:52 That's Charlemagne. It's got to be a Charlamagne. Dude, an N-word cookie is a biscuit. Is that your thing or that's a thing? I thought everybody called biscuits's N-word cookies. Who the fuck? I'm hanging out of it. I've never heard of that.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I've never heard of it. White slave owners used to say that. Like, that's plantation talk. I was about saying. I've never heard of it, but I knew it immediately. That's true. I'm first generation African. I'm like, I don't know this shit.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I was like, oh, nigger cookies, yeah. I know that. White people got good things, though. We just call them crackers. That's all. That's terrible. The racist plantation owner much more creative than you.
Starting point is 00:13:27 That's funny. Yeah, for real. Much funnier. You just love white supremacy so much that you don't want to laugh at white people. I don't give a fuck. You can't white shame each other. I don't get a fuck.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Everybody can suck my dick. I don't care. Oh shit. I hear you, Maliki. I hear you, my brother. Yeah. Yo, you're like NYPD Blu. The blues stood for balls.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Oh, that's a different show. Undercover, motherfucker. It was a different show. Hey, I know what they were undercover about. I don't tell you that. Holy shit. You know what? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Shout to Malik. Didn't we have Malik on Brilliant Natives we did? Yes, man. Years ago. Yeah, ago Malik Yobo was on. We had him on Breakfast Club a couple weeks ago, but all he came to talk about was real estate. I'm like, don't be saving that hot shit for Instagram.
Starting point is 00:14:23 You fucking bring that for the Joe. to bring that to us, baby. When you wait, you could have gay that to us two weeks ago. And he came out and he was just like, I like trans guys. I think the conversation started. It came from a good place. I think he saw a video of, I cannot remember the young man's name, but there was a young man who got, he killed himself.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He killed himself. I think he was in Philly. Yeah. Okay. People were running up to him with a phone just kind of like nagging him because girls, trans, whatever. And the kid was being open.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Like, yo, I love. Transgender women. And if I'm not mistaken, I think Malik did talk about that. But he was like, I like transgender women. I like what I like, basically. And they were shaming them for it.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Same way Akasha's been shaming cast since we got in here. And fucking Malik Yoha. And you're shaming my thighs. Yeah. And Malik Yoba was like, that's what made him come out because he, like,
Starting point is 00:15:12 I heard something different. The trans lovers needed an ally. I heard something different, bro. What you here? I heard, I mean, I don't like to spread rumors. Fill that tea, cats. I heard, I heard somebody Malik Yoba.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Like I heard it was like, He was fucking with, like, underage trans. Well, I heard that after the fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I heard, like, he's trying to get in front of it, you know, before it all. Yeah, but what do those underage trans identify as? Like, do you think that identifies? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:40 What if they identify is 22 years old? Yo, Bo, that's a great question. That's a great question. That's a great fucking question. And I'm going to tell you why else. How do you feel inside? Listen, she's a prostitute, too. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Right? So it's just like, yo. if she was talking about the block on 4 teams creek now I only know what this block is Mr. C. I was about, oh gosh. He only knows he was going to be a lot of Mr. C. He took you there. No, that's what he used to get arrested at all the time.
Starting point is 00:16:05 That's where he got knocked. He got arrested there like twice. That's how you got breakfast club. No, he got arrested there like twice. So clearly that district is a hot spot for transgender transsexual prostitutes. I don't know what the proper term is, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:19 But clearly that spot is a hot spot for that type of action. Yeah. I don't think anybody that's going down there. chicken sandwich for trams. I'm just saying, I don't think nobody's going down there. You can't eat just one. But I don't think nobody's going down there to ask for ID, is what I'm saying. Everybody's doing something illegal.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Thank you so much. Like, you're buying, why would you self-svish on yourself? You're a prostitutes and you're a prostitutes. Right. You know what I'm saying? Aren't you going to assume that the, well, I guess you can't assume, but that's a weird situation. Like if you're ID in the person you're about to do something illegal with, it's like if
Starting point is 00:16:51 your weed dealer ID'd you for weed. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to make sure you're 18 and up. So, like, legally, is he in any trouble? Like, is that illegal? It depends if the trainee comes out and says something about it. Transgender.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Transsexual. Whatever. I was at dinner with, isn't it? It's too many. I was at dinner with Jesus last night. Yeah. And I was repeating Dave Chappelle joke. And he was like, stop right there.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I'm like, what? Like, you ain't even identify him right. So that's how you know the joke's about it. I'm like, who are you? Yo. No. Wait, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yeah. He was that? He's defensive over trans, bro. Remember when you had the trans on your show? Remember you had that one trans guy on your show? And I remember we were asking him something like that. And like, Jesus just popped up out of knowing. He's like, no, I know him for a minute.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I know him up in the Bronx for a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything's going on. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah. So I think he's very defensive of that community. I was like that. He did push back on me on the joke.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Like, I'm like, I'm not saying the joke. I'm repeating what they said. No, but it was triggering, bro, because he remembered those days. And by the way, I didn't know transsexual. It wasn't the proper term. What is the proper term? It's transgender, right? I think that's two different things.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I think it's transsexual. It's a lot, yo. It's a lot. It's a lot, yo. It's a lot. That's what makes the joke so funny. It's a lot. The T's in the back of the car.
Starting point is 00:18:15 It's a lot. It needs to be knowing a lot, and I don't even know this. This is too much. It's too much a lot. That shit is too lot. The biggest problem with this whole shit is. What kind of push? that he gave?
Starting point is 00:18:26 He just stopped me like, that's how you know a joke isn't no good because if you say you don't even know the proper lingo, nah, nah, man,
Starting point is 00:18:34 sometimes it's funny the wrong thing. It's usually funnier when I'm not saying the right shit. I want Dave Chappelle to speak on the situation the way he would speak on it
Starting point is 00:18:42 the same way. I want all of y'all to speak on it. Exactly. We don't know. So you know what happened when somebody doesn't know?
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah. They should be taught. Ah. And if we don't throw it out there, how do we know we say in the wrong shit? You know, we were talking about that
Starting point is 00:18:54 before y'all walked in because he was talking about the uninterrupted John of HBO yesterday and Kevin Hart getting a lot of heat
Starting point is 00:19:00 I know you was on that so Kevin Hart was getting a lot of I was like I watched it I saw yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:19:07 step it up you know I was there no I'm glad you I'm glad you let us know because I ain't heard shit about you
Starting point is 00:19:18 on here I hear by everybody on there but you're by the way by the way I started all the fire conversations
Starting point is 00:19:23 Let's be clear. Let's be clear. All the conversations, the goat conversation, the mental health conversation. That was a three-hour-long episode. Yeah, that's funny. They just cut your out
Starting point is 00:19:32 all the Twitter videos. Dudea-Shar. That's fucked up. I was on there prospering. What happened? A lot of good shit. Well, he came out there with no heat this morning like Kevin got.
Starting point is 00:19:43 That's right. Kevin, he's in a fucking hospital better right now. You know the worst part about that? You're getting defensive. You sound like D's around some training talk, bro. You get invi defensive.
Starting point is 00:19:53 very defensive right now. The word, you think when the trans dude pulls out his dick, he's like, showtime! What the fuck? I don't know what that. What's the showtime?
Starting point is 00:20:07 You're talking about what you're like the dude in the subway? No, Bronx? Yeah, that's got I'm thinking. Because he's from the Bronx. You know, subway performance.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Can we get some context, guys? I mean, Jesus Christ. Can we get some contact? You can say in the trans dude is like a subway performer. He's from the Bronx, so he gets on the trade. You never been on the subway, bro? No, not a long time.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Oh, that shit is wild. Actually, the last time I took the subway, dude, actually the last time I took the subway was earlier this year when I had to go ring the bell at... The stock exchange? There you go. That's so funny. Yeah, I took the train because I had to be there at a certain time.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Wait, you rang the bell at the sock exchange? Early this year when I heart went public. And they still didn't include you in none of these shop clips. Dude, that's fuck. That's wild son. Yo, I thought it was disrespectful, bro. that what? You saw me just take my hood
Starting point is 00:20:56 and throw it back like a girl I was about to say like What was you? No I'm just feeling away I'm disrespect my guy Listen let's talk about the cab shit for a minute though
Starting point is 00:21:04 I'm gonna tell you why I thought that was fucked up Two reasons Kep Matt drunk We all was drunk But first of all Ludel Nade X should have never been put in that situation Right
Starting point is 00:21:14 And I'm gonna tell you why He should have been put in that situation He should have never been put in that situation Because what Kav said is absolutely true We don't care You know what I'm saying? Like if you want to have a moment with Little Nas X talking about his sexuality, make that a real moment.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Like if we were all in a barbershop for real and we was all drinking, I wouldn't be asking them about this goddamn sexuality. Nobody else in there got asked about their sexuality. You know what I'm saying? Nobody in there got, Kevin didn't get asked about his infidelity. So like why bring that up? But I don't think people got mad at him getting asked about. I think people got mad because he was so dismissive.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And it was like, oh, that's his homophobia speaking out. That was a little out of context. And the reason it was a little out of context because what we was trying to tell little Nazex is, bro, it's cool. Like, you don't have to talk about that here if you don't want to. The kid is 20 years old.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Do you really think he's comfortable with his sexuality? And they have to live that out in the public eye. Like, you say something like that and then immediately social media is all over you calling you gay and the F word and all kinds of other stuff. I mean, he's kind of took it in stride. He was the one making most of the jokes himself when he first came out. Yeah, but how do we know?
Starting point is 00:22:19 How do we know he's not at home crying? We don't. You know what I'm saying? Like, we don't know. So it's just like why I put him in the hot seat? And by the way, let's not act like that's just, that was a regular conversation. That was for TV.
Starting point is 00:22:29 That was, that was a producer question. Like, make sure you ask a little and not this. So we can get these moments. You know that though. Anybody that does content, it does media, you know that. So why? Why? What was the meaning of that?
Starting point is 00:22:40 That conversation went nowhere. All it did this morning was caused a bunch of uproar for what? You had so many other great discussions going on. You can't even really talk about these issues? That's the tricky thing. It's like, can you bring up trans? second you'd bring up anything homosexual, like, and even the discussion itself becomes some hot button topic.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Like, it's actually exhausting. Yeah. I get exhausted by the fact that you can't even ask a fucking question. You should have, oh, listen, if we was being honest, we should have had, and I mean, I'm not a producer on the show, so I don't know. But I would have had Paul ask Kev about his homophobic tweets from back of the day. Boom. What did he learn from it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Little Nazek, how did you feel when you saw that? and then you can have a good conversation. You know what I'm saying? Like that. Like, why do you, I just put him on the spot about his sexuality. I even think that would get him even more fucked up. I think he would get him more fucked up
Starting point is 00:23:32 because the thing with Kev is, for him, it doesn't matter what he says. Because anybody, especially with the Day Chappelle shit, with the dollhouse and all that type of stuff, right after that, no matter what he said,
Starting point is 00:23:44 people are going to find some shit to get on Kev about. And that's what they did with this episode last night. All he simply said was, he came out and said he was gay, who came out? Which is a great, it's a new drop for the breakfast. That's our new pause, by the way. Whenever somebody says anything remotely gay.
Starting point is 00:23:58 You go, who is? No, we play in the Kevin Hart drop. Oh, I love. You know what I'm saying? He said it was gay, so what? It's a great drop. You know what I mean? But that is the truth to the matter.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I like how Lil Nas gave a pushback, though. He was like, because Kef tried to act like there's no homophobia. Boom. Now, that would have been a great conversation. I like that because he was like, bro, if you, I like how he kind of checks his Kevin. But we said he's right. I know, I was like,
Starting point is 00:24:21 I was like, but they cut you out all the clips in the problem, son, that's the thing. Shut up. But I was like, yo, you were right.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Like, we can't act like pause and no homo didn't exist. I wish that made it to air. Charlamagne, that's an important conversation. They should have given you
Starting point is 00:24:36 more respect over there. They did. Dude, no, that was fucked up. Right, like an off camera, like a producer. You had a producer respect. That was right.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And, even the seat you were in had had your name on the back, like the director's chair. I don't even think you were supposed to be in the shot.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Did you notice I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I was proud of my performance. I wish I could be. I thought this emotionally stable Charlemagne, bro. I was good. I hate this, bro. We just make funny of you and you're like, you know what? I did the well.
Starting point is 00:25:09 That's investing in your mental world. It made a meme of me. They made a meme of me in one of my quotes from the show. Wait, what is saying? Have you seen this man? Look at him. Well, listen, since you guys asked, Hold on a note card.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Hold on. That's not meme, that's missing. Hold on. Since you guys asked. I don't remember what the fuck it was. I don't know what I'm going to buy that. But I did feel like they're taking care about the context based off his. And I'm going to tell what else like that.
Starting point is 00:25:39 You got an Amber Alert, Sean. I was there. It was Caz really set you up, bro. Listen. I said you're disrespectful. All I was trying to say when this conversation started was that when I see those conversations happened, I don't look at being like, oh, Kevin Hart's homophobic. I just look at, oh, this is somebody who just hasn't been educated enough.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Why don't some people just fucking educate it on what though? Just like why the way he, why people, all right. People get mad at him with the homophobic comments, whatever. There's a high requirement for homophobia. I really do believe in this. I agree. Kevin Hart's five, too.
Starting point is 00:26:19 It's like when a kid says something bad. It's like it's not affecting anybody. And sexism, like it's short. Is any guy afraid of Kevin Hart? All these gay guys will beat the fucking shit out of Kevin Hart. Come on. That's probably like Kevin Hart jogging all the time. Get the fuck away.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Like, he can't run out of breath. I just think that we're so quick to label people things that they aren't. Like, I'm reading, I just finished reading Malcolm Gladwell's new book. It's called Talking the Strangers. It comes out, I think, September 10th. And it's about communication, how nobody has it anymore in 2019, 2020. We don't know how to communicate with each other anymore. So I think the subtitle is like the things you should know about the people you don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And we try to judge people based off demeanor. Like that's the problem with police officers and everything. Like you might be sitting there gray hoodie, thick thighs, looking at me like that. And I'm like, damn, who is this motherfucker that looks like he beat up Jesse Smolet? But on the inside, he's hurting. Yeah. Because of a tragic situation, I'm just saying we're like,
Starting point is 00:27:18 we're like, we're demeanor. We look at somebody's demeanor, we think that we can judge a person. That's wrong. And I think that we do that with Cav, just because Kev said, oh, why? He thinks he's gay?
Starting point is 00:27:27 How does that translate to homophobia? I think Kav was trying to cover for the whatever he's been labeled as homophobic in the past and try to be like, I don't care. I think his mind he was trying to say, calculate, 100%. How do I prove to everybody that I don't care if somebody's gay?
Starting point is 00:27:40 I'm going to just be like, yo, who cares you gay? Big deal, because it's not a big deal to me. That's what he's trying to do And it didn't come across That's right But guess what I definitely didn't give a fuck I definitely didn't care
Starting point is 00:27:50 Like all different conversations We could be having right now Why are we putting this little This young man on the spot? Do you think you would care more If he was more thick? Yeah like if he had that Fucking hawks
Starting point is 00:28:03 Right there, His ham hocks I'm gonna be honest with you You know the guy Caz the body Famu Yide Yeah the body Famu Yide Everybody knows
Starting point is 00:28:12 Like a stallion room Everybody knows. Hand the stallion, you're a chariot. You're not even a stallion. You're the shit being dragged by the horse, bro. You're just playing no fucking games with these people out here. And Shaolin ain't want to be your gladiator.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Everybody knows how I like my gay man. I like them loud. Okay? I like them loud and outrageous. Flamboyant. I don't even flamboyant. Like you can, I just like you to be loud. Like, I like the gay man that don't.
Starting point is 00:28:39 You can see the gay from a mile away. Yes. The guy that walks in the room would be like, oh. Look at you with those little gray short pants I'm not gonna lie I feel kind of turned on just now I was like I like that compliment Like my homeboy's hair
Starting point is 00:28:54 Who cares? He said he was gay, who cares? Who cares? Yeah, yeah He said he was gay, who cares? Like, for real I like them loud And aggressive
Starting point is 00:29:05 And if you're gonna be it Like, yo, be it the way men are With women That's the best You want to be cat called You got to be cat-haired. Hey, why not? You don't think we deserve a little objectification?
Starting point is 00:29:16 The gay compliments do hit a little different. They do hit this. The gay compliments definitely hit different. They make you feel good. It feels good a little bit. You like, you all like that. Is that gay? It hits you differently.
Starting point is 00:29:26 You mean like in your loins? Doesn't make you feel good there. They pay attention to detail. Yeah. They pay attention to detail. They compliment shit on you that you don't think you, like, they don't notice. Like what? Like, Charlie, you got nice cheekbones.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah. Oh, my God. I do, I do use a straight. June. Y'all I bet you love being around gay people when you were
Starting point is 00:29:46 exfoliating your face. That's right. They were noticing every one of them. They've been noticing my tan all day. You have a tan? Is that what you call?
Starting point is 00:29:54 I went to Turks and Kegov. It's not what you called? I was in Mexico. No, I go to the weekend. Yeah. Oh, I saw the Instagram picture. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that was dope.
Starting point is 00:30:02 It was nice. You lost your head. Yes. No, it's my glasses. Your glasses. I would jet skiing for the first time. Shit full of. Shut the fuck up,
Starting point is 00:30:08 Ocas. You fucking comedian. You and Andrew, you fucking comedian. comedian. You fucking, you fucking, you fucking, you fucking. You goddamn fucking, you goddamn fucking, comedian. The fuck is wrong of it. I put the bullet in.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I'm glad you didn't go for the low-hanging fruit, bro. Not at all. We're not doing this one. I'm glad you didn't go for the low-hanging fruit. Oh no, I had some fruit that was up high, me. I had a real high one. My shit was mad low, so now I was going to go for a day. My shit was at the top. You didn't get me a trip. Let's do a little inside jokes.
Starting point is 00:30:47 He wants it. He wants it. He wants it. He wants it. He wants it too bad. You want it too bad. You want it too bad. It's not fruit.
Starting point is 00:30:59 It's an apple. It's an apple to you. Break down. Break down in a constructive way. What this joke was going to be. I say... Give me the... I said...
Starting point is 00:31:09 It's too long. It's too wild. I said Cav lost his hat castes. No, I lost his glasses. Boom, go. Nah, nah. I was going somewhere totally different. I was going somewhere totally different.
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Starting point is 00:33:43 can we talk about another great conversation that I started on the shop last week? Let's talk about it. I saw you start that conversation. They need to hear somewhere. Which one? The goat gene. Say what?
Starting point is 00:33:53 Does it exist? Is there a goat gene? Is it genetic? No, I'm not saying it's genetic, but maybe it has to be genetic, right? It has to be something in your DNA that makes you superior to the rest, right? And I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:06 Kevin Hart said that anybody can be a goat. Sounds very Hitlerish, by the way. There is Jean inside of you. There is something inside of you that makes your back as and dress. I'm going to push back on that one. That is a look and there is a fear to stop in human beings that makes sense to superior. You do that accent very well. I don't think normalizing Hitler is funny.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I don't think normalizing Hitler is funny. Hitler should not be a punchline. Well. Yo, that was the best joke I love that Chappelle, but when he goes, when he said the normalizing shit. Yeah. Why is it when I made, what was it?
Starting point is 00:34:52 I said that last week. What was it? When he was like the transgender or transsexual and the trans person said, said, yo, when you make jokes about R. Kelly, they say you normalizing R. Kelly. When you make jokes about us,
Starting point is 00:35:05 why don't they say you're normalizing us? By the way, nobody wants to answer that question. Of course. Nobody wants to answer the question. So anyway, nobody wants to answer the Chappelle question when he said, why is it okay to use the N-word a million times? But when you say the F-word, I can't do that. But those are, those are, that was a false equivalency in that joke.
Starting point is 00:35:20 No, I don't think it was, he didn't, he didn't make no equivalency. Well, the joke was, you can say the M-word. He's like, you can't say the F-word because you're not gay. And then he responds, well, Diane, I'm not an M-word. But the argument is you are black so you can use your derogatory term, just like a gay guy can use his derogatory term. the point is why any derogatory terms, period. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:44 If you're, the woman, I don't know if the woman is gay or not, but I'm assuming she's not, but an executive will not allow you to do that. Yeah. So if the executive who's straight won't allow you to use a gay slur, an executive who's white shouldn't allow you to use, and words, sorry. He's like, no, that's not acceptable. Yeah, but then he'd be like, how are you going to tell me I can't use this word that was used to oppress me for my entire life?
Starting point is 00:36:02 I'm trying to change them. You know what I mean? That's the reason you shouldn't use it. You just answered your own question. It's been used to oppress of your entire life. You don't use it. You don't use it? Not really.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I try not to. Try not to. Okay. That sounds like the exact same is. That's a good word. That's a good word. That's a good word. I can't say N-word cookies.
Starting point is 00:36:17 You'd be like Nabisco? Like, nah, nigga. Like, Nillowper's, but I would think. Yeah, I was one of a nila wafers. Listen, let's talk about the gold gene. Yes. Is there a goat gene?
Starting point is 00:36:30 Because I feel, no matter how hard you work, right? No matter how much time you put in the gym, no matter how much time you put in the studio, no how much time you put in the stage. If you're not a goat, you just won't be a goat. And I told Kevin Love, I said, well, Kev, what is LeBron doing that you're not doing? If it's just hard work, because Kev, you're 6'10, 230 pounds. You can average 20 and 10 that you used to at one point.
Starting point is 00:36:54 So what is LeBron doing that you're not doing that he's LeBron and you're Kevin Love? Right. What do you say? I don't remember. I was just Kevin Love. This was a different Kevin. When you were saying Kevin, I was like, well, Kevin Hart said, well, Kevin Hart thinks it's, With work ethic, anybody can be a goat.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I don't think so. No. Can you really learn from people like LeBron James and Tom Brady? And the reason I ask that those guys are outliers. You're talking about the best of the best, legendary. So even when they ask of certain things from y'all, you just can't deliver because they're just different. That's true. 100%.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I see it many times, especially with rookies when I was a rookie. Tom wants it to be done in such a certain way because he's at that certain level. You work with a fucking goat. But goats are made. So you don't think it's a goat gene? No. Really? See, I personally do think that the goat gene was always here.
Starting point is 00:37:43 The goat gene doesn't have to be within your body. I do think there's a chosen few. I think there's a chosen few. I think there's people that if you work hard enough, you can get to a certain level, but there's only like a certain amount of people that are just a chosen. I think both those things are kind of genetic in a certain way. There's a makeup mentally of people who have the goatability. That is, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I want greatness at all costs. I don't need personal relationships. I don't need friends. I don't need none of this. I just need to work and be great. I think Kobe had that. I think MJ had that. They had the ability,
Starting point is 00:38:15 but they also got that mentality. I think Kevin Hart does that to a certain degree where it's like, look, I'll outwork fucking everyone. It's naturally quick and funny, and there you go. I think there's, like, a small part of, like, sociopath in you. Yeah. If you need to be great.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Like, you say you're doing all that shit. Like, you say, and, like, you will do anything to be this great, but, like, are you really? Like, Michael Jordan would, like, we say, oh, man, he'll, like, run over his mother for a point. But, like, no, this motherfucker really will. And he has. Kobe, same guy.
Starting point is 00:38:43 LeBron. I think he has the same type of sociopathism in him, but it just comes off a little bit more charismatic. It's not like Kobe where he's like, oh, man, this guy's such a fucking asshole. Nobody wants to play with him. I think LeBron's just more cerebral with his. That's what Kevin Love was saying. And, I mean, you know, I think, because, you know, the conversation started with me talking to grunt. And I said it with me, right?
Starting point is 00:39:05 And with me talking to grunt. And I said, because Brunk was talking about Tom Brady. And I was like, bro, like, I said, can you really learn something from people like Tom Brady and LeBron? Yeah. And the reason I said that is because they can push you, but they're pushing you to try to be as great as them. But can you really be? Tom Brady's a fucking anomaly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:25 He's 42 years old. You just want a soup bowl last year. You're not going to see that again in this lifetime, probably. Nobody's going to push you to be the goat. I think that's the competitive event. if you got the gene. Like, let's say it's a gene. The gene is that you're willing to sacrifice more than anybody else.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And I think if you look at any goat, they've sacrificed more than anybody around them. Yeah. You know, and when you're willing to sacrifice, you stay in the gym. When you're willing to sacrifice, you study hard. Or when you're willing to sacrifice, you do what Tom Brady does. You find every competitive advantage you do in a game. I remember, I think you even brought this up out of college. like Kobe was studying shark movements.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yes, because he couldn't guard Alan Iverson. Alan Iverson, he said he kind of moves like a shark out there. So he started studying shark movements to get some sort of competitive advantage playing D against Alan Iverson. Now that's the psychotic makeup. Right. Right, but like that's what you need to have. That's what it takes. That's the shit it takes.
Starting point is 00:40:23 So it's like you got to apply that to everything that you do. Like they said Peyton Manning would go through every single play at the end of every year, every single play that he did. Most people don't want to do that. Most people are not going to listen to every set of their stand-up. Most people are not going to listen to every interview. Most people are not going to put in the fucking hard work. Most people want to hang out with their boys. What about the person who does all of that, but they still not a goal?
Starting point is 00:40:44 They're just good. So here's the thing. I don't think, that's where I think shit doesn't exist. I don't think, I don't think that people have that kind of work ethic if it's not matched with ability. And I think, I think that's where you, I don't think there's the guy who works as hard. is Kobe, but he's just kind of like okay and he plays at the YMCA. I think eventually you give up because even if you're
Starting point is 00:41:08 because even the goadist of goats needs positive reinforcement. You got to see some sort of tangible results. You got to see results. And if you're not seeing results, you're like, fuck this, I'm not going to do that. LeBron probably saw himself at like the 56th grade fucking dunking on motherfuckers and it was like, okay, like I have a superior skill to these people, let me hold it. Yeah, like you're not
Starting point is 00:41:25 even, like, some people aren't even in that club of like talent where you can even think to be like, okay, If I put in the work, if I do everything humanly possible, I can achieve this level. And some people still don't think LeBron's really achieved that level. Maybe because he thinks a little differently. Maybe because he's a little bit of a nicer, or seems to be a nicer guy than a Jordan is or Kobe is. I think it's goat tears, though, right?
Starting point is 00:41:50 I mean, like I said on this podcast before, I think it's great, it's kings and it's gods. You know what I'm saying? I think LeBron is a king. Yeah. You know? Not wrong. What did Kevin Love say about him? He said his mentality.
Starting point is 00:42:03 He said it's all mental. He said him. He said LeBron would lock in a way that he just, that no, like nobody else could. I'll put LeBron in a different type of like goat category, though, because with him, you can tell that his interest kind of supersede sport. You know what I'm saying? Like he wants to be looked at on some Ali's shit as a voice, some Magic Johnson shit when it comes to business. I mean, but on the court, but some people, when the game's over, the game's going to end for everybody. Even there's people in this room right now
Starting point is 00:42:32 that really don't remember Michael Jordan like that You just say, oh yeah, he's the goat But you don't remember seeing him like that Who? That's a ton of people So some people Michael Jordan's just a fucking guy In the crying face He's just a meme to a lot of people
Starting point is 00:42:45 He's just the guy with the sneakers By the way, that's a goat meme though It is Come on now That's a goat meme But to a lot of people Like they don't even Go meme, go sneakers
Starting point is 00:42:53 There's a on-court attributes All fade away It don't matter who you are It don't matter where you go where are you going, what you play. That shit fades away to everyone in everyone's memory eventually. We're talking about basketball. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:43:07 LeBron James is a god outside of that court. By the way, he's a god on it. On the court, too. But when you're comparing him to other gods, there's other gods that are stronger. But what I'm saying is I think LeBron, the way he wants to achieve his goat status is trying to achieve all that at once.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Because Kobe was an on the court goat, but he wasn't that. We're talking about, like, just being elite in one field. On that court, baby. On that football field. Comics. Like, like, like, like, Jeff Bezos could be the biggest jerk in terms of how he treats his friends. But I don't give a fuck about that.
Starting point is 00:43:35 If you want to talk about a guy who, like, revolutionized business and motherfuckers a goat. But that's what I'm saying, though. Just because he's a basketball player. If he's doing philanthropy and shit. No, not even just philanthropy. I'm talking about, like, business. I'm saying all this other shit, like, as that guy. We talk about getting the ball in the basket.
Starting point is 00:43:49 The point of the goat. I'm saying if he's the first person to do that shit. The point of the goat mentality is we are defining it here is I want to be the greatest at this thing. One thing. I want to be the great. Because LeBron can't be the greatest. human ever.
Starting point is 00:44:01 He's more well-rounded than Jordan, but he's not the goat human. He ain't Jesus. You know what I mean? Allegedly. Not that Jesus might have been in high-year-in-arms reach of Jesus. When I was in Turks and Kegos this weekend,
Starting point is 00:44:14 they have just stretched, it's called Long Bay Beach. You can walk on that water out to 56 miles out. That is a fact. You think that's where Jesus was? Yes. People were so far out there.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I was like, yo, what the fuck is that until they didn't explain to me? that is shallow for 56 miles out. But it looks like they're walking on water. That's all I'm saying. Jesus could have been in Turks and Caicos. Garden of Eden, Paradise. What was it?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Or was that Israel? What was it? I mean, I didn't read enough of the Bible. I thought he walked in water. I do agree with you in that he probably didn't walk on water. Yeah. That body of water would still exist, right? Maybe he was just the first brown dude that could swim.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And everybody was like, you know, what the fuck is he? doing on top of that water, son. That's wild. Maybe they turned it into walking. That's a good point. That's the best argument for Jesus being black. He wasn't walking, he was just swimming. And all the other guys were like, it's a miracle. God damn.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Yo, I'm sorry to use your name in vain, but this is crazy. This is amazing. Dude, real talk, a lot of these things could have happened. It could not even been water into wine. It could have been Mary's period. What? How much period do you think he's got?
Starting point is 00:45:30 She made a god. You don't think that period's going to be brutal? She got God ovaries, dog. She got literal God ovaries. That is the wildest shit that we believe in. But it's amazing that they made people believe that shit. Is it, though? That Mary got pregnant and didn't fuck me.
Starting point is 00:45:45 I don't like John the man hanging out with white people finding logical flaws in the Bible. That ain't the charles me. Always found logical flaws in the Bible. What about Epstein committing suicide? People believe that. They really believe he committed suicide. We don't care. You don't care.
Starting point is 00:45:59 You know somebody we care. We'd be digging and belgian, ah, fuck that pedophile. Like, no, I care. But it's easy to make people believe that shit, though. What? Did he commit a suicide? No, but it's just like, you know, walking on water, water in the wild. Back in like 33 AD, oh, yeah, dude, it was convinced, like, what, 40 people of something? Yeah, it wasn't a lot.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Now, it's like billions of people. Yeah. And even some... If you had Twitter back then, you couldn't make nobody believe. No, somebody just take pictures. I know, that didn't happen. And that's it. But back then, it was just like that for centuries.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I feel like it's easier to believe while shit with Twitter. And all the things you believe. That's what you're saying. It would be easier now. Yeah. Pay attention to Kosh. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Bro, I don't know, man. I'm treating you like the shop, son. I'm not listening to nothing. I was going on there ripping, baby. I got to see this episode now. I'm in every scene. Those are good episodes. That's the episode.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I'm giving our bars in every scene. I don't know what the fuck Cox is talking about. I'm just saying nobody putting it on Twitter. No one seems to care. It's like the tree that fell in the forest. You know what I mean? Somebody seems to have heard your bars. No, they were giving it up, baby.
Starting point is 00:46:56 No. They was giving it up. Lil Naz-X's sexuality. I did body that episode. For no reason. Right? That's an old trick, by the way. You're not tired of hearing us.
Starting point is 00:47:08 But that's what I mean when I say nobody cares. We're not tired of hearing about that type of shit. You know how tight Charlotte was when he went on Twitter that night? And he was like, let me check my mentions. I was slapping shit up on this episode. And the whole thing was just, D-D-I. I was actually kind of shocked.
Starting point is 00:47:26 What you mean? I was like, I would think that they would be happy that it wasn't a thing. I would think that people would be happy that we didn't can. We weren't being dismissive of him. He's just like, yo, salute to you. You want to live your truth?
Starting point is 00:47:38 That's what's up. That's not enough anymore. That's not enough anymore in 2019. This is a good point that he said, I want to do it at my peak because some people do it what they're lowest as like some savior tactic. Oh, that's what we were talking about that.
Starting point is 00:47:51 That wasn't, yo, the thing that got me was he said right before that, he was like, you know I'm never going to have the number one song in the country again for 18. weeks. And I was like, yo, I'm glad you know that. Like, that's a better conversation because what's he going to do after this? What's life after Old Town Road is going to look like? When you got a record that fucking big. What do you think? It will happen? Bro, I really don't know. I've never seen. I'm not sure for the rest of his life, man. That's
Starting point is 00:48:15 going to be, that's the new old McDonald's had a farm. They're going to teach his kindergartners. They're going to graduate to that shit. That song is going to outlive us all. By the way, what would you do with him? If you're his manager, what would you do with him? That's another conversation they cut up because I was asking him. are you making money? Because that's a $100 million record, easy. You know what I mean? Did you give it all away?
Starting point is 00:48:36 I don't know. I don't know what his deal looked like with whoever he signed to. Like did they take all his publishing? Like, does he get in royalties? Like, is he going to make money off that record? So he should have made at least $4,000 or $5 million. He was like, yeah, of course I'm making money.
Starting point is 00:48:50 But it wasn't like a, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, bro, do you know how much money this record is making? Yeah. That's a different conversation. Like, screams. By the way, did he need a label for that?
Starting point is 00:49:04 Old Town Road was gone already. That shit was red hot before I even heard about him signing it to a label. Did he need a... I've still never seen the video. Like, what did a label really do for Old Town Road?
Starting point is 00:49:12 The first time I saw the video was at the video musical awards. Hmm. Never saw it? The first time I saw the video. Did you go to the VMAs? Nah.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I got invited, but I didn't want to go. VMAs fell off, bro. I don't even know who the fuck the host was. Who was that? Oh, Sebastian. Sebastian is funny as fuck. I've never heard of him I don't know why. Can you hit that right thing?
Starting point is 00:49:29 I got it. I got it. I got it. I never heard him ever in my life. No, Sebastian's a great comedian. He was put in, I think, a horrible situation. Those things are the hardest fucking things to do, man. We've been to a million of these things. You cannot do jokes. Dog, when we were growing up, it was a roast. It was the best. Yeah, but, like, even then... The bar was not really fucking high, though. It's not even bar. You got Chris Rock doing the shit. Back then, I really think maybe that we were more privy to stand up. I mean, I remember being a... kid and being into stand-up. And I don't know if kids like stand-up in the same way.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I think they like Instagram comics or they like little sketches, but I don't, I was a young fan of Chris Rock. I had his books. I was into it. What's that? Listening. What do you mean? We had better listening skills back then. But I think there was an interest at a young, at a young age.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I think people were interested, and I don't think these kids care about stand-up at a young age. But I think the reason the interest was higher is because people were listening with the intent to understand. Nowadays they're listening with the intent to reply. Right, right, right, right. They're even trying to hear what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:50:34 They just like, when they hear a word that sets them off? Oh, he said the effort. Oh, he said this. They're not even listening with the intent to understand. They just want to reply. They want to be a part of the fucking show. And we make them a part of the show by writing all of these articles after the fact by taking their tweets and putting them in the articles and, oh, see what he said
Starting point is 00:50:50 about Kevin talking about Lil Now and I was like, ah, that shit is whack. We grew up in the age of information and right now we're in the age of the age of of engagement. Yes. Where we would just want everybody to be a part of something because that's how people make money now. That's how people get involved.
Starting point is 00:51:04 How do we articulate to the youth that what they feel is useless and meaningless? Like literally meaningless. Also, you're not entitled to an opinion. You don't deserve an opinion. You can have an opinion. You can have an opinion. It's just meaningless. Like how you feel means nothing.
Starting point is 00:51:25 How I feel means nothing. How you feel means nothing. how you feel means nothing. Our feelings really mean fucking nothing. Well, you can't, it's easy to say, but when you got motherfucking people reacting to what people are saying on social media and you got celebrities apologizing
Starting point is 00:51:40 and, you know, people backtracking on stuff and people losing and done stuff, yes, you make you feel like your opinion is validated. Like, it doesn't feel like your word means something. You should have to earn an opinion in public. I don't think you should just be able to. You used to be able to. You used to be able to.
Starting point is 00:51:54 When words on paper, used to have to pay for that shit magazines, books, all that type of stuff and that was the only way you could get media You used to have to earn your opinion Like why do I care what this person has to say Oh well he wrote this, this, that and the third He did this, let me read that now
Starting point is 00:52:10 Everybody has that shit Yeah and podcasts wouldn't exist if that was the case of Kosh Because you got a whole bunch of motherfuckers Just opening up microphones and talking and giving their opinion Well as a stand-up I feel like I earn an opinion Because I go on stage and I say what I feel And 95% of the audience can kick my ass And I still say it
Starting point is 00:52:23 So I feel like I earned an opinion I don't even know you a stand-up, though. Well, they're going to find out. Ooh. I like that. At the same time, it is something that you're doing, right? Like, there is some sort of qualification. I disagree with you.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I think anybody should be able to have an opinion. But I think that we need to... It doesn't matter if it's fire or not. I think we just need to realize that, like, just your opinion is meaningless. Like, when people say... There's no power behind it. There's nothing. It means nothing.
Starting point is 00:52:48 It only... It only... I don't think... I don't think... I don't think... The fact that you can review restaurants on Yelp, what kind of fat fucking loser... is so like bothered
Starting point is 00:52:58 by their restaurant experience that they're going to go on Yelp and write a fucking review. Not going to lie, I love a good Yelp review. I love a good Yelp review.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Oh, I hate it. I will go read a few Yelp reviews. I'm not going to lie to. It's crazy. Sometimes I hate read them. Well, the weight staff was all right. You need to give a mediocre
Starting point is 00:53:17 fucking Yelp review, bro. You need to take your time and do that. Unbelievable. I did a show for Yelp and I told them, guys, I don't even respect
Starting point is 00:53:25 professional. critics. Dude, what the fuck makes you think amateur? Work for free critics. That's a great point. Even, like, when we look at professional critics, when we literally look at
Starting point is 00:53:35 movie critics, all these people, who are the professionals now, though? Son, I got to show this, this image. Did you guys see what happened with the fucking, um, not only Dave Chappelle, but there's another, okay, so there were two documentaries or two things.
Starting point is 00:53:49 One was the Dave Chappelle thing, Rotten Tomatoes. You guys know what Rotten Tomatoes? Yeah. Okay, so Rotten Tomatoes. gives, first of all, no score to Dave Chappelle, right? Like the tomato meter or whatever. Now, they do two scoring systems. One is by their reviewers, whatever,
Starting point is 00:54:06 and then the other is by the people. They got a lot of flack for not giving any score for Chappelle. So they let seven people review it. The score was 24%. Then they let the people review it. 100%. 99%. See, that's my problem.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And this is what we got to start realizing. Social media, the internet, that shit is not really the market. bro. I don't give a fuck what people think. That shit is not the market. Hard to keep in mind because it's so in your face, though. Yes, but it's not the market.
Starting point is 00:54:30 The market will always determine whether or not you're good because that's didn't even be fair. At the end of the day, people should be critiquing in Desperal's art. Yep. They should be critiquing Andrew's art. They should be critiquing Cassus thighs. Like, they should be critiquing what it is that we do. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:44 If you're offended by it, fuck if warrants and fuck all that. Was it good? That's it. I knew Ron Tomatoes with some shit. Just knock down the house. Have you guys heard of this document? Men, the what?
Starting point is 00:54:55 Knocked down the house. Have you heard of this? What's that? About three little pigs? What's it about? It's about the squad. Oh. Maybe Trump calls on that.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Oh, the squad. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it. It's on Netflix, right? Exactly. So, or something. And the tomato meter, which is the in-house version of rotten tomatoes,
Starting point is 00:55:15 100%. The audience score? 35%. Dave Chappelle's tomato meter, 29%. The audience score 99%. The point is, There is an agenda, and these companies are attached to a bigger Hollywood Matrix,
Starting point is 00:55:28 and they decide what the fuck is good and what the fuck isn't good. And the beauty of the internet is they are watching this shit crumble right in front of them, dude. Like their whole way of molding what we like and what we enjoy and what content is good and the stars that they want to be stars, all that power is falling apart right in front of their eyes. And is absolutely hilarious to watch. Because the power is truly with the fucking people. That's it. You know what he needs to learn this Twitter shit?
Starting point is 00:55:55 The most is advertisers. If they learned what you're saying, Twitter isn't the market. It's not the market, baby. We don't need to respond to some angry tweets that are outraged. It's a market. It's not the market. I think it's a small, small slither of a market. Every article that's, this is outrage, it's like five tweets from people being outraged.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And then you've got enough for an article. And then the article gets enough more people to be like, well, I'm a little. Then you got a thousand people. It's a thousand. I read an article this morning. Fat women with short hair. Those are the only people writing these articles and they're the only people
Starting point is 00:56:28 that have complaints about these opinions. If you just ignore them. In time I see those articles, I'm reminded why Beyonce hates her fans. Oh. Yeah, but you got some people nowadays, man, like their opinion. You know how we clown Magic Johnson?
Starting point is 00:56:42 Because Maggie Johnson says the most obvious shit. Yes. You got a group of woke tank clan, right? Woke Tang clan. And Woke Tane Klan, I know exactly what they're, take is going to be on any
Starting point is 00:56:54 situation. And I hate it because I got friends that in the Woke Tan clan and I'm like I do I hate you right now. You know why I hate you? Because I talk to you. And I know what you really think you fucking performer. Stop already. It's a brand now. It's a brand. It's a brand. It is whack. Once I've seen people, once I've seen like woke warriors getting ripped by like CAA and shit. I'm like for what? Like where are you getting
Starting point is 00:57:20 business to do this? I'm like It's a brand for you now. Like, I know you. Like, I know how you think. I've had conversation with you. We drink together. I know how you really think about a lot of this shit. But I know you're following.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I know how you pay your bills. And I know you have to say certain things and write certain things because that is what you've cultivated. You know why it's like shit when you do that, like manipulating a bunch of people making them feel horrible about themselves? I can say exactly when they're going to feel it. They're going to feel it when eventually those guns turn on them. Because what they don't understand about. Oh, it's happening. It's a circular firing.
Starting point is 00:57:52 That woke shit, that shit is a circular firing squad. Because as soon as you say something that they don't like, they're shooting at you now. They don't fuck with you. They fuck with your opinion. And the second your opinion diverges from what they agree with, you are part of the food. You're part of the buffet.
Starting point is 00:58:11 And they can get their retweets off based on you. That's why, here's the thing about what I realized was the woke folk and the people who run the woke folk. It's the easiest way to get a following, right? because you tweet some woke shit. Motherfuckers will retweet it because they all want a virtue single. Look what a good person I am.
Starting point is 00:58:27 But it's the quickest way to lose. Oh, for sure. Think about the people who got it this year. Bro, they gave it to Lina. They gave it to Lina Wave. But they gave it to Lina wave. Wait, what happened? What happened?
Starting point is 00:58:38 What happened? Dude from straight out of Compton. Jason Mitchell. Right, right, right. They're trying to get Jay Z to fuck out here. Once I saw that shit, I was like, I'm done. I was fucking. fucking done after that whole.
Starting point is 00:58:53 I was so glad I was on the podcast during that whole Jay-Z Kaepernick shit. I was like, I'm fucking done with you. Where were you, bro? I was home. I was home chilling, bro. He was taking care of the situation,
Starting point is 00:59:04 bro. Oh, okay, never like, let's pay some bills. Let's pay some bills. Better to me, because I'd be like, man, that shit hurts.
Starting point is 00:59:12 What hurt? Nothing. Oh, yeah. Yo. I mean, that's hurt, but, you know. Yes. This is therapy for me.
Starting point is 00:59:18 It feels good. Really? Getting back to normalcy. Yeah. You serious? Don't say that. Okay. No, I swear to God.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Like, it was, I was home just fucking, you know, I hate just being in just a fucking puddle of just sadness and depression and all that shit. I'm like, this makes me happy. This is funny. Have you spoken about what happened outside of Instagram? Yeah. Okay. Well, I talked about it with Akash before for Flager 2 for a little bit. And I think we'll talk about a little bit more afterwards because, because honestly.
Starting point is 00:59:42 No, no, no, no, no. Not why I talk about it, but why would Akash? You know this guy. Well, you're a sociopath. That's what are you talking about. And eight months they're going to be hearing jokes about, hey, well, you know, let's talk about loss people. But you know what? Eight months is a long turnaround time, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I'd like to give me more credit than that. I'm surprised it took this long. Pay these bills, please. I'm sorry, Charlemagne. My bad. I needed that one. That was good. Pay the him.
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Starting point is 01:02:18 I'm going to tell you, Cass, and I just thought about this. I don't feel good about this. And I'm going to tell you why. What's up? Because you're not alone in this situation. I know. So I don't know if you should be making jokes.
Starting point is 01:02:26 I'm not making jokes. These guys, man, I've just been receiving so much fucking, like, love in the past couple of weeks. What's the fucking, hold on the way. What was the shit Kav said again? He said it was gay. So what? Who did it?
Starting point is 01:02:43 That needed a. Who did it? He's gay. I'm just saying no. He's gay, who cares? I mean, this is a situation that usually hits the woman harder than his demand. So I don't want to be in here acting like we're making light or something. No, I mean, we're not.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I know Cass looked like he was carrying the baby, but. All right. Let's, all right, never mind. I'm sorry. That was so good. All right. That was so good. I'll take it to knee.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I'm taking a knee, bro. I can't. I got to take a knee. I'm not. I'm here, Charlaman. Keep coming. Oh, gosh. What's that?
Starting point is 01:03:26 What is it? He said waxes in there. Go beat up, Charlotton. Oh, this is true. He just dropped the brass knuckles on the ground. But I'm just, I'm not, no, whatever. God bless you. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I really met that when I told you, you know, I love you. You look like you were carrying the baby. He meant that shit. No, but I love you guys, man. As much shit as we talk on, on this show, man, like if I can't take a few jokes. This is how you process grief. This is what we're built for.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Like, doing this shit my whole life. I'm from the hood. We don't take shit serious. You got evicted? Oh, you're homeless? You got to be these jokes? All right? I thought you...
Starting point is 01:04:03 I'm serious. Your mom's on crack. Shut the fuck. We're right with Andrew Shokes. I'm sorry. I'll tell you. This guy is so crazy. You're shooting from deep, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:21 That's your pun up on the F court. Yo, dude. This guy's so crazy. This guy's so crazy. This guy's wild, though. Oh, boy. I'm saying, your mom with a crackhead, you would get these jokes. Like, we didn't, like, you go, you go.
Starting point is 01:04:38 That's how we process grief, bro. That's how we all process it. Oh, you got to laugh to keep from crying. Literally, why we have a sense of humor. There's no animal that can laugh that doesn't feel anything. Like lizards don't laugh. Dogs, they laugh. They feel shit.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Dogs laugh? Yeah. Don't feel sad. They feel happy. They show emotion. But emotion is the process and shit. That's why we have a sense of humor. It's built into us for these moments.
Starting point is 01:05:00 100%. You got to be grateful for. You know what? They smile and shit too. You don't know what I? You never said dog smile? You're like, ha-ha. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:10 But like they got their way of like laughing and enjoying life. I've seen the tail wags a little harder. Yeah. You're excited. You need, dude, this is what humor is for. why we laugh to the darkest shit. That's why that's the funniest.
Starting point is 01:05:21 And that's why it's tears of a clown when it comes to comedians. 100%. We have the darkest shit. Of course. And a lot of comics don't know how to process it. And a lot of them
Starting point is 01:05:29 end up killing themselves if they're good. If you make no whack comic kills himself? A whack comic tells himself. But the good ones? The good ones be a goat.
Starting point is 01:05:42 How bad you really want to be a goat? How bad you want to be the goat, bro? Who? Robin Williams? Who else? So, Robin Williams, Greg Gerardo. I mean, you can make the argument that Patrice did because Patrice just kept, you know, he basically ate himself into a stroke.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Just cast himself right up out of him. Dude, there's a, what, Richard Jenny? What's the guy? Richard Jenny. Yeah, Richard Jenny. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know none of these people you're talking about. You know Patrice.
Starting point is 01:06:08 You know Patrice. You know Robin Williams. Greg Gerardo is really funny. The roast, right? Yeah. You would help Greg Gerald if he saw him. He's a ghost? No, Cosby killed himself
Starting point is 01:06:19 The people are you talking about The goats? I don't know, I'm asking Petrieza is a goat. I know Patrice is a goat. I mean, some might argue Robin Williams is a weird. He's a goat, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Who else is a cancer? Like me. Who else was up there? Who else killed himself? I can't think anybody right now. Jenny was the one I was holding on to but I was like, Richard Jenny was a beast.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I don't even know who that is. Ask Chris Rock next time you talk to him about Richard Jenny. Ask Chris. Okay. Yeah, he's a man. Anyway, bro. Y'all got to do an episode of Flagrant.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I think we gave him a hot hour 47. That's hot. No, no, we gave him a little less. We got a less. But I appreciate it. Oh, yeah, because some of that is... Some of the earlier one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Oh, but we got to have that's one of us for. We got shit to do, baby. Okay. You got a plan to catch. We're trying to act like it's weird. We're the reason why we got to stop this episode early. You got to go home. Yeah, my daughter's, well, I got a daughter that started six-grade a day
Starting point is 01:07:14 and another daughter that started preschool. Oh shit. Is that exciting for you? It's very... You really don't got to rub in the kids. That's what I was saying, son. This got a little asshole, bro. Oh, come on, dog.
Starting point is 01:07:25 You're a real jerk. Come on, bro. How many, I got this, daughter, that? It's like... Yo, you got two. I'll stop it. You got two, Charlie. You got two, Charlie.
Starting point is 01:07:32 You're greedy, you're greedy, y'all. I wasn't even thinking. Yo, Charlotte, you're a piece of shit, bro. Just because you didn't get the mic stand? Just because you... Just because you... All it is just because I had to hold the mic. But no, it does give you, it gives you anxiety like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:07:52 It's like... I know what else gives you anxiety. I call a parental paranoia. Parental paranoia? Yeah. Why? Because your kids are going to school. Yeah, man, that shit just gives you like a different sense of anxiety.
Starting point is 01:08:02 And the first day for any child is always hard, especially when it's their first day in school, period. Because the wife always cries. Always. Yo, are you for real right now? This first day in kindergarten? First day at preschool. First day at preschool. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Wife always cried. She cried for our oldest daughter, and she called me crying today, which makes me freak out. Because if I pick up the phone, all I hear is tears, I'm like, what's wrong?
Starting point is 01:08:25 What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? So now I got to check my ego, because the first thing that came on my mouth was, you call me with this crying shit, like, and just because you're sad.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Like, it's like, that's a lot you know what I mean? Like, you're not taking into consideration of my feelings. And I'm already paranoid. But then you got to check that and be like, I,
Starting point is 01:08:43 you know? Do you ever get scared about school shooting? All the fucking time. Because your daughter probably goes to school, white kids, right? Yeah, you got white kids. That's terrifying, man. That's a risk. That's a real risk.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Well, she's in high school now? Valid fear. Middle school, oh, yeah. That's when it starts. Teenage angst. Teenage angst starts there. Real talk. I mean, like, okay.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Make sure she's strapped. Yeah, real talk. But they got measures, though, like the schools is locked. I think they should have metal detectors in all the school. They don't. What is the lock going to do? The school shooter's already going to the school, they let him in. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:09:20 And like Chappelle said, they're teaching the fucking school shooter to drill too. Yeah. So he goes exactly where everybody should go. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's really no drill you can do to stop a school shooting. None. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Stop dropping roll ain't going to work. Yeah. Duck ain't going to work. None of that shit going to work. So just run and save yourself. That's what they can do. To give Louis C.K. credit, his solution was probably the best. What?
Starting point is 01:09:43 This is the one he got in a lot of trouble for. but he's like, I mean, if you grab the fattest kid and put him in front of you. Oh, my God. He acting like he not can go tell his daughter this as soon as he gets home. No, I was about to make another cat's joke. You know that's not too easy.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I was like, I should just grab cab. Grab cat's leg. Just grab his leg. Cass put your thigh up here. Oh, nothing. You niggas. Listen, as always, if you look to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent,
Starting point is 01:10:20 you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you look to this podcast, and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiotist podcast with Flagrant Too. Thank you for listening. And guys, got a case of the post-podcast, Munchies.
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