The Brilliant Idiots - Highway To Hamptons
Episode Date: September 7, 2023This week the Brilliants Idiots Charlamagne and Andrew came together once again to discuss some of this week’s topics. But first, Schulz shared his newfound love of air bnb's after traveling. Next, ...they get into politics and had to speak about Mitch McConnel freezing up while speaking to reporters the other day, even though it a good chance that he was just practicing the mute challenge for Beyonce. They also speak about Kanye letting the crack all hang out on a boat and Rich Paul's comments on Steph Curry. And you know it is not a complete episode if they answer some "Ask an Idiot" questions. ************************************************** Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount+ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ TaylorMade-It Production Contact: Taylormadeitprod@gmail.com Empty Thoughts Podcast podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empt…ow/id1622292632 Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Podcastbrilliant idiots charlamagne tha godandrew schulz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Yo, Hezzy.
What's up, baby?
How was your weekend? I saw that you, they calling you Hezzie of the Hamptons now.
Hampton, Hezzy.
Let me tell you something.
Drugs are amazing.
Yes, they are.
Drugs are so good.
Especially plant-based medicine.
But also chemicals.
Okay, what'd you have?
I mean, it was a cornucopia of things.
It was an ecstasy pill, and that's exactly what it induced.
It was so much fun.
It was so enjoyable.
And I will say this, whatever joy you feel, and I wonder if you've experienced this with plant-based,
but whatever joy you feel from chemically induced drugs, you have to pay for on the back end.
You mean like the come down?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So as high as you go.
Let's say you go to, let's say you go to 10 points higher than you would naturally go.
You owe 10 points.
Yeah, plant-based medicines do that, especially shrooms.
Shrooms will bring you down with it.
You know what I mean?
If you don't hydrate and drink water, that's why the main thing to do when you
on that stuff is hydrant.
Yeah, yeah.
But it was just...
You didn't do that.
You probably drank liquor.
Oh, no, that's the other thing.
This is the first time I ever done like a Mali or an ecstasy or something like that
and didn't really drink.
I probably had three drinks the whole night.
And that was my goal because when we would go to Burning Man every single
fucking year. We'd be on Molly and like some aterol or whatever to stay up. I sound like an
absolute like junkie right now, but, uh, we'd be drinking alcohol, right? Like, Al, we'll start
drinking alcohol at nine o'clock, 10 o'clock, and then you're drinking until eight in the
morning. So you have fucking 20 drinks. You wake up to you next day you feel horrible. I always
attributed that to the alcohol. No, the Molly. Oh, the Molly. No, not's the alcohol. It's the
It's raining your system and then you have the compound hangover.
There is a hangover, obviously, when you do Molly or ecstasy.
Water.
That's all I drank.
You got to drink mad water.
When you're on that, I've never done Molly.
But everybody that tells me about Molly said you got to drink mad water.
You got to drink mad water.
It is so much.
I don't want kids, obviously, do it.
It is great.
It is fantastic.
We're having a grown conversation.
Are we supposed to talk about our lives or not?
No, we are.
No, no.
What I would say is that anybody that does it just,
understand you are taking out a debt that you have to pay.
And I think what happens is for a lot of people is they take out the debt and they're spending
all that money, that happiness and that night.
And then the next day they fear horrible.
And then they go, well, I'll just take out another debt and take another debt and take another
debt.
And eventually you got to go bankrupt.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you have to go, okay, the next two days, I'm going to be lower than I normally am.
And I have to accept that.
Oh, people say that about, I mean, you feel that about, I've never experienced that, but I know people who've had like really like amazing shroom trips.
Yeah.
But when you sober and you got to get back to that reality, you know, you don't feel that high no more.
So that's when a lot of the depression and everything else.
Yeah.
And I guess that's where addiction can come into play, right?
Yep.
And then like, oh, I got to start, I got to do this more and more to stay up here.
Up here?
And you know you can be there in a fucking second.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a scary thing.
So it's not something I do a lot.
usually, you know, this time here, we would be at Burning Man.
We decided not to go to Burning Man this year.
God bless.
Or maybe not.
Maybe they had this best experience this year.
I think it would have been the best.
Yeah, being stuck out there in the water.
I guess the not knowing when you're going to be unstuffed.
That would drive me crazy.
But you know what that would make me do.
And I thought about this.
Live in the moment.
You have to submit.
You got to submit.
Like that, you, and by the way, we should be like that all the time.
But in that moment, what are you going to do?
You're going to think about, oh, man, I'm going to miss my flight on,
whatever.
day I finally get out here.
Are you just going to say, you know what?
Fuck it.
We're here.
And maybe it would have been something, because for me, the thing that always gets me at
Burning Man is like there's a certain claustrophobia that starts to set in towards the end
of the week where you're like, can I leave whenever I want?
You know, if I have a flight booked out, that's when I can leave.
Or if I don't have a friend that's leaving, that's when I can leave.
And it starts to feel a little bit like I'm not in control of my destiny.
And this would be that on a hundred.
And granted, there are some people who walked out.
right but it is yeah Chris Rock walked out
Diplo walked out I don't know you could walk out where the fuck you go
you walk to the town it's five miles yeah
really last last year there was a crazy
this isn't the only year there's been inclement weather last year there was a crazy
sandstorm you couldn't see six inches in front you damn so it's like
we were driving out at one mile per hour in the sandstorm could not see six
inches in front of us so you're basically bumper to bumper with the car in
front of you and they're bumper to bumper with the car in front
and you're just looking at that faint
tail light that they have for hours.
So they walked five miles in the rain?
I think it wasn't raining when they walked, but it was already muddy and wet.
And they did that to go stay in a hotel?
To get out of the basically what's called the plier, to get out of that like,
because what you're on is a dried up lake.
Yeah.
Vagina.
It was definitely dried up.
But you're on a dried up lake.
That's what the ply is.
So naturally.
Oh, it feels.
For millions of years, the ship was.
underwater. And now it looks all
flat. Yeah, I'd try to get the fuck out of there too.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you get the fuck out. Yeah.
Because you don't know how deep the fucking lakes don't go.
Yeah. And you don't know how long you're going to be stuck there.
Exactly. Because they're telling everybody, yo, conserve your food, conserve your water.
And now you're like, for how long? Yeah.
I wonder how long Chris Rock was there for. I wonder if that's his first time.
No, he's been there. He's been there before.
But, uh, how was the Hamptons, though?
I saw that you said that you love Airbnb's now.
Bro, the reason I love it is because, okay,
you know when you're going to Anguilla?
Yeah.
And you travel with everybody.
Absolutely.
And everybody, I imagine at this point,
are you all staying in one sort of?
That's right, because I always run a house.
Yeah.
I love travel with my wife and we stay at these hotels and it's awesome
because we're together at the hotel.
That's right.
And I didn't really understand.
And I always looked at Airbnb as like a secondary option to a hotel.
and I'm like, oh, could I get something nicer for cheaper?
I didn't realize fully until this weekend when we had, you know, seven of us out there,
that it's family time.
That's right.
And you're creating family time away from home.
You can't even have family time with your family if you're at the hotel.
And all the little moments is happening in between dinner or whatever activity are popping up.
And I'm like, oh, that is the brand.
That's right.
Like if I'm Airbnb, I'm leaning all.
the way into that nonsense.
That's the whole point of written luxury homes and villas when you away.
Because it's like, it's when you wake up in the morning and y'all have breakfast together.
Yeah, yeah, you have breakfast together, figuring out what y'all want to go do for the day.
And then, you know, we're old, so we don't go out at night.
So once we're done with the day and it's 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock, now we're watching comedy
specials and movies.
And all together, not everybody in their own little room.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's the best.
Yeah.
It's the fucking best, man.
Did you go away?
No, I stayed home for the week.
Bro, we need to do a little Hampton's week.
I'm winning.
Because here's the thing I realize,
and I was talking to guys this on Flagrant,
old money, like rich people,
like when I mean rich, I mean like wealthy, old money people.
They have been rich for so long
that they've created an art out of spending their money.
And I think that's why they kind of look down to new money.
People sometimes,
they see like a guy with an orange car in Miami,
and they're being snobby about it.
But I think there's a little part of it that's like,
you're doing the thing that everybody does when they get money.
They're just trying to scream as loud as they can.
Hey, I have money, which is natural.
That's what we all did when we got some money.
We're like, I need to scream as loud as I can.
I have money, right?
It's almost a part, they look at you too, like, who told you?
Told you.
Or they're going, nobody told you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're going, oh, nobody told you.
You're not supposed to buy an orange car.
Yeah, yeah.
So these old money motherfuckers, and don't even know, some of them are like weird, they're snobby.
Sometimes they're rude.
Their kids are all little fucking.
weird because they never socialized normally. Everybody's all kissing their ass or serving them
their whole lives. I get that. That's some of them. But they've curated fantastic places to live.
Oh, yeah. And they've curated amazing ways to enjoy their time. And in the Hamptons is just an example,
like a world-class place to enjoy your time where you can also live a very full life. It's not just,
hey, here's a beautiful place in the beach and there's nothing else to do, which is where I went every summer
fire island. It's a beautiful place in the beast, but there's nothing else. It's a beautiful place in the beach,
but there's nothing else to do.
Here, you're playing sports.
You want to go to the movies.
You want to go to a fine dining.
You want to go to a chill lobster shack.
You want to take a boat on the bed.
The thing is so diverse.
And that's what these fucking people with tons of money do.
They got to fill that they're not working.
No.
You've got to fill your time with something else.
No.
You're not going to work 60 hours a week like us.
Absolutely right.
So it's one of these things where I go,
my knee-jerk reaction with these people
always be like, oh, that shit is corny.
Oh, that shit is snobby.
That's what you always say when you can't afford to be with A.
Yes.
Yes.
And I got to stop doing that.
Yeah.
We always say that when we can't be where these people are.
That's what I always say you really don't know what you'll do until you can actually do it.
You know what I mean?
The reason I know I don't give a fuck about 95% of the stuff people care about it because I can do it.
I can do it and don't want to.
Yeah, to your point, I've done it and be like, eh, this ain't really my thing.
That's like, what I mean?
Like when you can start affording expensive clothing and shit,
you realize how much you don't want it?
For what?
Like, I was only, I only desired that because I couldn't have it.
And now that I can have it, it's like.
And because some people want folks to know that they have wealth.
And that's the insecurity.
That's all the security.
When you don't have a lot, you can't wait to share it.
And I think everybody should go through that experience.
When you first get some money, you should throw around a little bit, right?
because you spent so much time without it,
throw it around a little bit,
have some fun and learn on your own
that that might not be the most fruitful way
to spend the money.
And then when you do experience that thing,
whatever it is,
if it's vacations,
if it's fucking experiences,
maybe you're really into cars.
You want to, like, build old cars
or something like that.
But having that kind of passion tied into it,
it was fucking great.
I'd never been like that, man.
I've only ever cared about experiences.
Amen.
And I want everybody.
to have a good time.
So that's why, like,
I have no problem
spending money on experiences.
You know what I mean?
Even we talk about these
written, these houses
and these exotic places,
I'll spend money on that
because, hey, this person
goodbye plane ticket,
that person could buy a plane ticket.
Fly in, let's get,
you know what I mean?
We kick it for a week,
like, or whatever.
Like, I have no problem doing that.
All that other shit,
mine, Bentley's and fucking
Rose Roy spirits.
What is this much?
Phantoms and ghosts and doll and whatever the fuck else.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I'm not with it.
I mean, like, that's the thing.
You're going to rent a house and you guys are going to have a joke that happens
that you're going to laugh at for 10 years.
But ever.
Ten years.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Forever.
That's what you hope for.
Shit happened this weekend that we will laugh at for 10 years.
See what I'm saying?
You can't put a price on that.
Mm-mm.
You know?
But you can put a price on the Bentley.
Yes, you can't.
You can put a price on a phantom or a ghost.
You know what I mean?
And guess what?
That shit don't mean nothing.
You don't have no real memories with none of that shit.
Yes.
And people have to learn that on their own.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's like one of those things we've already talked about on a pod where it's like,
you don't take anybody's advice when you're not in that position.
That's right.
Like, how many times have people told us certain things that we weren't going to care about?
And we were like, nah, that's important to me.
And then we got to that place in life and we're like, oh, holy shit, they were right.
They were absolutely right.
Yeah.
Let's talk about poor shit, man.
Okay, let's talk about poor shit.
What's the poor shit you saw this week?
What these poor assholes doing?
Bro.
Honestly, I saw somebody renting a house.
What's wrong with that?
No, no, I'm just trying.
It was us!
It was us!
Salute.
What is the poorest shit?
What is the poor shit?
I mean, it's a lot of stuff happening.
I saw Nikki Haley say that they need to put terms on these motherfucking old-ass politicians.
Because Ms. McConnell had another stroke.
The cartoon turtle.
Then he looks at him.
like the tortoise in the hair?
It does look like the fucking tortoise.
But yeah, he's, yeah, they're turning him off.
Have you heard of that, like, what is that program they said about a CIA?
It's called MK Ultra?
Yeah, absolutely.
You heard about that, right?
You heard about the hair.
Okay.
So they're saying that like this MK.K. Ultra, these things, which were true, there were
these experiments, I think, using, like, acid and other psychedelics and seeing if they could
use those psychedelics to essentially, like, control people behavior.
I think they did a lot of those experiments on the guy who did those, uh,
murders out in California.
What was his name?
He had like a swastika on his forehead.
Who recently?
Manson.
Charles Manson.
But I think he was involved.
I think like his dad was on some CIA shit.
Anyway, like, it doesn't matter.
My point is this looks like, I know this is just aging and it's funny to be
conspiratorial about it, but like this looks like some NK ultra shit.
It looks like they're like, okay, let's turn this motherfucker off.
We don't need him anymore.
Yes.
And this is, like, no, you're absolutely right.
And this is why we also got to turn a wokeness to fuck off
because as soon as you say something about a Mitch McConnell
or President Biden or Diane Feinstein,
people say, stop being ages.
It has nothing to do with ages.
No, they got responsibility.
Why can we be agis if the bus driver doing that?
Word up.
All of a sudden, we age.
Right?
Like, it really just shows, you know what just shows?
It shows that we don't think politicians do anything.
That's what it really comes down to.
Because if we thought if he was a pilot,
we would be like, nah, get them out of him.
That's right.
If he had any job that we deemed you need to be absolutely in control of all your faculties to do, we would get them out of there.
But the fact that the American public thinks that politicians do absolutely jack shit, we let these corpses continue to do their fucking job.
But this isn't ages.
This is cognitive decline.
Declined.
It ain't there.
It ain't there.
There's no cognition.
There's no post.
Bro.
There's no post at all.
looking at the latest Salma Hayek.
I feel so sorry for him, man.
Ms. McConnell wants to retire.
Fuck, what's wrong with Sama Hayek?
No, that's all about to say.
No, bro.
He got the Orchata factory.
Can't you see I'm froze?
Like Mitch McConnell, President Biden,
Dianne, they probably all really want to quit.
But their parties won't let them.
Why won't they let them?
Because they're like, we have nobody else right now.
Y'all are in the positions of power.
Stay here until you can't.
more. Bro. Mitch, man. Is that really
how you want to spend your last days, yo? Oh, just
clutching the podium? Come on, man. Where the
fuck am I? Come on, man. And why am I here?
Yo.
Now, get him out. What if he's
got a new Viagra's fish?
Oh, you think that they stick him with a vi?
And those freezers happens when he gets a little Woody. He's out
there talking, you know what I'm saying? All the blood
comes from his brain, and he has no fucking clue what's going on.
There's some little hot thing there that he keeps seeing. He's like,
oh, shit is happening right now. Either that
or he's actually soiling his pants.
He might be sitting his pants.
He's got to be fucking shit in his fans.
That right there is the like, that's the shit face, bro.
That's the like, oh shit.
Yep.
The oops, I did it again.
You know what I mean?
That's what that is, yo.
This shit is fucking crazy.
Nah, you got to retire him, bro.
He don't deserve this.
Retire him, man.
Let him go do something.
Retire Diane Feinstein.
Don't even know if she'd be fucking voting.
People got to vote for her.
Where is she?
She's in the Senate.
But what did she look like?
Is she in the wheelchair?
Pull up.
She is in the wheelchair.
Pull up Diane Feinstein.
Alex.
Jesus Christ, man.
Poor Mitch.
Now, God, damn.
Yeah, this ain't good.
It's come on, bro.
Oh, goodness.
Come on, man.
She's supposed to be in a museum now.
Holy shit.
She should be in a museum, bro.
Good God.
Like, come on, man.
That ain't right, yo.
No.
She's 90.
No, no, no.
Why y'all got this woman spending her last days like this, man?
Go to that one.
in the blue. That's crazy. Come on, man. She's in a wheelchair, man. Let it go. Let it go. Let her go live
her life, man. She was cute as a little one. What do you? It was that? 1911. Yeah.
There wasn't no color pictures back there. Exactly. I got out of it. Jesus Christ, man. Jesus
Christ, man. So what do we do? Do we do an age limit or is there a cognitive test?
What Nikki Haley said is absolutely right. Nikki said he's a term limits or cognitive.
test after a certain age. What I will say is right now the Senate is the most privileged nursing home
in the country. I mean, you know, Mitch McConnell has done some great things and he deserves credit,
but you have to know when to lean. That is why I'm strongly in support of term limits in this country.
I think that we do need mental competency tests for anyone over the age of 75. I wouldn't care if they
did them over the age of 50. But these are people making decisions on our national security. They're
making decisions on our economy, on the
border, we need to know they're at the top
of their game. You can't say
that right now looking at Congress.
I mean, term limits
makes sense. I think that that's most representative
of democracy
or
cognitive test.
The tricky thing about cognitive test,
what could go wrong with that?
Let's think. It depends.
Depends what you're asking people.
But like, why you say that? Break that down.
Yeah, like. Well, because cognitive test is still
subjective at the end of the day, right? So you could say it's based on scientific feedback,
but obviously people can manipulate those results or they can manipulate what the standard that
you're being tested for is. That's what I'm saying. It becomes a tool to take people out.
It's very, exactly. So it's very easy to finagle that test. And then you have the right is going to
try to make the left look dumb up. Look, he's not cognitively fit to run. We got to get him out.
He's not. What do they call it though? I mean, like, like what do you do with a cognitive test? Are there
no term limits for the House of Representatives?
No, the only president is the only term limit.
Senate as well?
No term limits.
No, no term limits, I don't think.
Oh, you got to switch that.
So if there's no cognitive test, right,
like there's got to be certain things that we,
the people can say we don't want them no more.
Like when Joe Biden goes to shake hands with a ghost.
You know what I mean?
When Joe Biden goes to shake somebody hand and there's clearly nobody there,
but he's still standing there with his hand out.
And if somebody has to turn him and direct him to get out,
it's like, come on.
Yeah.
Can we start asking some questions then?
Mitch McConnell freezes twice, bomb.
You know what I mean?
Can't you see him froze?
He does that twice, you know, in front of people.
Can't we start asking some questions?
I got to see what's on the other side of the camera, though.
You know what I mean?
Like, what if there's mad bitches sticking their fists in their vaginas?
And it's just like, he's just up there like, what the fuck is going on here?
Oh, man.
What Mitch keeps seeing is that dude from the Crossroads video with that goddamn thing's going on.
And the black shades and that black hat.
She's like, no.
Every time I see him, he's like, is this it?
And the guy probably fucking with him.
He probably showed up the first time.
And he was like, nah, I don't do it.
I'm not going to do it here.
Bro.
And he popped up again on him.
Like, nah, I'm not going to do it here, me.
Yo.
That's what the fuck it is.
That's crazy.
What else we got, Taylor, gang?
We're just warming up.
We're just warming up here on brilliant idiots.
You know what I'm saying?
You had a good weekend?
I did have a good weekend, man.
I don't do nothing on weekend.
Which is my favorite thing to do.
But you guys didn't want to go away or go back home?
No, because school started this week.
Kids got to go back to school.
They actually went back Tuesday.
My oldest went back Tuesday.
The other, my youngest in school, they go back Wednesday.
So it's like, eh, we're doing a lot of traveling for the holidays.
What are you planning on doing for the holidays?
A lot of the Middle Eastern Africa.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you were tough.
Yeah.
Oh, Beyonce.
Yes.
Beyonce, the queen, she became the high, what is it, Taylor?
Because Taylor couldn't wait to say this.
Taylor gave me two talking points to come in here with.
One, one will get to, that's about her, which is so crazy,
because Taylor's like really the selfish friend.
Beyonce's Renaissance World Tour has become the highest grossing tour by a woman artist in history.
The Queen.
Okay.
The caveat, though.
Oh, wait, what?
The caveat.
Oh, what is it?
Taylor has her submitted her number shit.
Oh, wow.
How sweet in Taylor to give Beyonce that little gift.
There you go, girl.
Go run the world.
Go run the world real quick.
Beyonce has the record first.
That's good.
Congratulations to her, and she's an absolutely amazing live performer.
But, um.
And singer and musician and talent.
And she deserves better with her sound system.
Oh, my God, man.
That's got to be the fucking, that's got to be the most fucked up shit in the world.
When you got a tour of that magnitude, making all his money and you come out and your fucking microphone fucks up.
Like, Kendrick Lamar came out and couldn't, you couldn't even hear him.
Couldn't hear him.
Like, what's the, hey, come on, man.
That's just disrespectful.
And you wonder why 50 cents throwing microphones at people.
Yo, what?
Can we, I want to understand that.
Also, where was that throw with when he was at the pitchers mound?
That probably was the same exact throw.
He probably was throwing it at the sound man.
up hitting the girl.
That shit probably curved right.
He goes to throw the mic
and everybody on the left of the fucking stadiums.
Exactly.
Oh, oh, oh, exactly.
The sound man just sitting there like, oh, please.
That shit ain't getting nowhere near me.
You know?
That poor girl, though, man,
but she's going to get a big settlement.
And she's a radio host?
She's a radio host.
I can't remember the young lady's name.
What's her name?
He works at Powell 106.
I don't know her name.
But, yeah, if I'm 50, I'm already
settling with her. And what do you give her? Probably a hundred.
100, what?
Bro, she's going to wait more than 100,000.
You see, though. But that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to settle for a hundred.
Yeah, but she's not going to take that point.
She don't need a third. She doesn't need a new head. That's what I'm saying. How much is a new head?
You're going to need a whole new head. How much is a new head? I don't even want nobody to get in her
ear and get to that point to let her know how much she probably could get. Oh, you know what I'm
saying? Like, nah. He should have settled while she was.
still dizzy. He should have jumped right off that stage and her at stack.
He was like, yo, we go, mine. There we come.
Nah, because she's sober now.
That's about a hundred, though.
Yo, first of all. You think that's more than a hundred?
No, yes. Now, he got to give her something.
How what you think more than a hundred?
Because she could claim it's long-term cockering.
Yeah, they're going to milk this to the ends.
Dang. But I mean, she probably dove up and headbutted it on some soccer shit.
Wouldn't you? I'm just saying.
You said, you just randomly throw a mic?
Yeah.
You jump in and going to go.
Hell yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Annie busted her head open,
which she probably doesn't want.
You leave 50 alone, sweetheart, please.
It's wrong what happens.
But leave 50 alone, man.
We need 50.
I mean, 50 going to be fine.
She's going to get her money, though.
Yeah.
She's going to get her money.
I mean, probably she should sue the sound system.
Because that would never happen if the sound didn't fall apart.
That's really the sound system's fault.
Yeah, yeah.
You mad at the wrong people here.
100%.
You mad at the wrong people here.
I would take that out on the sound people here.
You mad at the wrong people here.
Okay, that's one thing Taylor wanted to us address.
What?
Just say it.
No, say it.
Oh, no.
Taylor going to tell me.
Oh, no.
On the way here.
Uh-oh.
And Dale, Taylor, I'll act like you didn't want me to talk about it because you wouldn't have said it to me.
So she goes to me, oh, one of my little, one of my little cut friends, you know, is having a baby.
And I'm like, congratulations to her.
You know what I'm saying?
Taylor's mad
because one of her little cut friends
is having a baby
What's a cut friend?
It's something you know
get with on the side
A little sneaky link
You know what I mean?
Why are you mad at her for having a
Why are you mad at her
For having a baby?
Hold on
I'm so confused
I got it
Chris, you just
What's the thing?
A girl
A guy that she fucks on the side
No, a girl
A girl
That's him think I'm a lesbian
I'm not
A girl she fucks me on the side
Is having a baby
I don't know
it's going full shit
Taylor going full stud
You know
Taylor going full stud
But she's upset now
That this woman
Went and got some dick
And is having a baby
I need to understand
You know what I need to understand
Taylor can you explain this real quick
A guy or girl
I don't get me
It's a guy
Stop thinking
She's like I'm a lesbian
She's not she's lying
So a guy you fuck went on the side
I don't want to pull you out the closet
Yes or no God
I thought it was the third
I thought we all knew that you liked girls, too.
I didn't know.
I'm sorry.
I don't stop.
Can you believe?
See how you said it?
She's like, I don't.
Stop.
Stop.
Stop.
Because you're annoying.
A sneaky link is having a child.
What's a sneaky link?
Can you just tell me?
Someone that you naturally is just be fucking with, what you fuck?
But somebody that used to beat up your lower Arby's is going to have a baby with another?
They used to rubble Arby's.
They used to rub Arby's together.
Okay?
They used to put their meats together.
That's what they used to do.
So.
I'm waiting to hear more.
But no, it was a girl that used to do the car wash thing when the
that's exactly what it was.
I don't know why you so ashamed of this.
Okay.
So a guy that you were fucking while he had a baby mom.
A girl.
guy or girl?
The guy.
And so while he had another girl, you were fucking him.
No, none.
So he just got some random pregnant?
It's like, I'm just saying it's like one of those things where it's like, I already,
it's not like I really want to have a big with him, but it's like now.
Could have been you.
But I was telling you, I was like, it's like, he already wasn't like really, he was toxic.
Yeah.
But he had shit going on for him.
So it was like a potential there.
But then.
Did you?
I mean, this is.
I got nothing to do with him.
Nothing at all.
But did you let him.
Did you let him go raw?
No.
I mean,
how do girls go raw?
Isn't it always raw?
I hate you.
Isn't it always raw?
They don't have clit condoms.
Do they?
Yes, they do.
They have one condoms.
Really?
Not clit combs.
Not clit, but yeah.
What's it called?
It's a dental dam.
Female con.
So you got put in your mouth?
But that shit don't work, bro.
You just stuff it in there like when your sock comes off your heels.
You used it before?
Say what?
Do you use one before?
No.
Oh, well.
Why did they call in dental dam?
I didn't want to.
And then what happens?
You used one before?
It was retarded.
Why?
What made you want to use one?
Seran wrap that you just put it on top.
Oh, and then lick on top of it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What the fuck?
This is high school, bro.
I was trying to be safe.
Wait, wait, wait.
So instead of
instead of using a regular lunch.
Instead of a regular kind of you just went through the women?
Yeah, like if you're going on.
Oh, you put it kind of while going.
Yeah.
Let me see.
Shut up.
What I see?
That's disrespectful.
I wish you make a hooy.
You know not have an unprotected leather.
No, that is disrespectful, man.
Is it always green?
But that's in her mouth, though.
I thought it's going on her vagina.
So you're wishing you let this guy hit raw?
No, I'm not.
A little bit.
No, I'm not.
What else we got, Taylor?
What? Was he a white guy?
Absolutely.
Don't play with me.
What?
You've never hooked up the white guy over the weekend, though.
That you liked?
Yeah, of course.
He was a cool.
white guy though. Yeah, exactly. We're all cool.
He used Philly Slang,
like... What do you say? Like, you little
John? Yeah, he said, drawing, all that.
He said, drawling, all that. He said,
drawling?
It really don't take much for y'all.
Y'all, all the white dude got to do is dance a little
bit, you know what I'm saying? He'll even got to be like a real
good dancer. Y'all too!
I hit the snake one time. It's like, oh, you got a ripple
girl! You know what I'm saying?
Like, what the fuck? One little TikTok
challenge, you're ready to map.
I'm sorry this man.
Dr. Ubaugh would be so disappointed.
That's all it takes is a John and a drawling.
Yo, we do the same thing for each other, though.
Like, like, in order for a white dude to be cool,
all we got to do is beatbox or some shit,
and then we're the cool as white dude.
You know what I mean?
In order for a black dude to be smart,
it's like, oh, you're so articulate.
Oh, my God, you're so, right?
Why do we have low expectations for each other?
It's so crazy, man.
You know, it's so funny.
I was having this conversation about white mink can't jump dear,
original one earlier this week, right?
Mm-hmm.
And I was saying how white men can't jump.
Oh, this is the conversation we were having.
Actually, which Van was here?
It was me and Van.
And we were saying, could you ever do a movie called Black Men Can't Read?
Oh.
Right?
I thought you were talking about Van starring in a movie called Black Men Can Jump anymore.
Fat men can't jump.
Fat men can't jump.
Fatman Can Jump.
But we were having a conversation.
Love you, Van.
If the title of the movie was Black Men Don't Read.
A Black Man can't read.
Or can't read.
Would you do that?
I'm like, that could absolutely work if you did it as the same premise of white men can't jump.
Because the premise of white men can't jump was the fact that that whole movie was about stereotypes.
Yes.
And how you shouldn't feed into stereotypes.
Like even if you look at the movie, right, Billy Hoyt.
Yep.
Right?
His whole demeanor.
The reason that they were able to scam people for the first part of the movie is because nobody thought this.
dudes to play basketball because he was a white guy.
Yeah.
But even if you look at the way the roles are in the movie, Wesley Snipes character,
he's the hardworking guy who's a family man, who takes care of his kids.
But Billy Hoyt is the fucker.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Billy Hoy's not married.
You know, he don't really have a steady job, steady income.
They hustling people.
So it's like the whole movie is about defying stereotypes.
So if you did a movie called Black Men Don't Reef.
or black men can't read.
If it's centered around the defying of that stereotype,
you could absolutely do that movie.
Yeah.
Y'all don't think the title would fly in 2023?
No, because I don't think there's anybody
that believes the black man can't read.
Of course.
But at that time, we shouldn't have thought white men couldn't jump either.
But we knew white people could play ball.
They just couldn't jump.
And to be fair, he couldn't jump the whole movie.
He dumped at the end.
At the end, it took him the whole movie to jump.
He was saving the best for last.
There enough, but he couldn't jump.
Nobody ever threw in an alley because people prejudiced.
as fuck. That's facts, bro. It really was about the alley.
He really was about the alley.
He could have threw him an alley early in the movie. He didn't think he could.
He was like, oh, shit.
No, that's crazy how they never throw white boys their alley.
That's my, that's all it is.
Yeah. That's all it is.
So then what happens to the last scene of the black man can't read movie?
Well, the whole movie would literally be a final.
But give me the last scene.
Like, how does he save the day by reading it?
How does he save the day?
He's like, he kills his spelling.
No, but that's spelling. We need him to read something.
Like, I don't know how the end would go, but throughout the whole movie.
You know, Dave, I read it, Charlotte.
What do you have to read?
He'd be like this super scholar.
You know what I mean?
Throughout the whole movie.
And then at the end, he just does something that nobody can figure out.
But throughout the movie, he's getting those things, like how you said earlier.
People are like, oh, you're so articulate.
Oh, you speak so well, this and that.
People are shocked that he could do normal shit.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
The biggest, they call that the bigotry of low expectations.
Salute to Ebony K. Williams.
Now, I suspect that some of y'all are the same men that were bringing home
C's and D's on your report cards, only to then be cuddled by parents that said, well, that's
okay, as long as you're doing your best.
Well, listen, I love and believe in the excellence of black men.
So no, my dear, Cs and Ds or any other form of mediocrity is not okay.
No, I will not create a soft place for you or anybody that I love to fall comfortably
into the bigotry of low expectations.
God damn.
Damn.
She dropped the heart.
Come on, man.
The bigot of low expectations, man.
Shit.
Y'all don't even know how we got here, yo.
I just wanted to talk about it.
I just wanted to say the bigotry of low expectations.
Bigotry of low expectations.
That's fine, bro.
That's fine, though.
That's what Taylor had.
She had the bigotry of low expectations for that dude.
You did.
You know what I'm saying?
You did.
And now that dude, then that dude went and got him a whole family.
Okay.
I'm encouraging him to stay with her.
Do not break up black families, yo.
Exactly.
Do not break up black families.
I'm not a homemaker at all.
Diddy turned down nine figures,
gives bad boy artist publishing rights back.
Diddy chose to do the right thing over money.
He turned down a fortune to make sure
his former artists had control of their own music teams.
He has learned sources with direct knowledge,
say this media mogul and bad boy label Hancho
is making an unprecedented move in the music industry right now,
namely handing handing over the publishing rights
several of his former bad boy acts.
Word of this started to percolate
just a few days ago when Cameron took the social media
to announce that Mace had finally sealed the deal with Puff
and secured his catalog for himself.
Several others that recently signed deals with Diddy
to do the exact same thing, including some huge names.
Sources say Diddy has been approached for Bad Boy's entire portfolio
and was offered a king's ransom for it all,
but he turned that down and chose to go down this road instead.
What is wrong with me that the second I see,
an incredibly successful entrepreneur businessman doing something that is altruistic,
kind, and beautiful that I'm immediately skeptical.
That's the world we live in.
Okay, so it's not just I'm an asshole.
No, man.
But the second I read this, I was like, what's the catch?
What's the world we live in?
Everything is about skepticism.
What would social media be without skepticism?
Nobody could be doing the right thing to do the right thing.
So take me through why this may not be as altruistic.
as it appears.
What would be the criticism on this?
No, I agree with you totally with the skepticism.
No, no.
So I'm like, walk me through.
Why is this a good deed?
No, no, no, walk me through why it may not be a good deed.
Oh, well, I think that Diddy was probably offered a lot of money for the bad boy catalog
because they've been offering a lot of people a lot of money for their catalogs.
And I think Diddy knows if he was to personally take all of this money, it would be
super backlash.
You know what I'm saying?
Because people think he owes
so many people, you know,
so much money and because the reputation
that Diddy has always had of being a person
that, you know, takes people's publishing
and all of that, right? So if he was to get
this big payday, immediate backlash
on social media. Why? Because motherfuckers is haters.
Okay. You know what I'm saying?
I have a hard time believing, though,
that he isn't
in some way still connected
to the rights to the music.
For example, let's say he gave Mace
the right to his music. He no longer owns the publishing.
Is he still connected as a producer?
Of course.
Okay, so he's a writer or everything else.
But also, do it. One more point,
did he got an album coming?
I got to clear the runway from my album.
I can't have all this negativity and toxicity around.
Oh.
When my album comes out.
I take this money for this motherfucking deal.
You know what I'm saying?
Now everybody's talking about this.
Instead of my motherfucking music.
You know what I mean?
He could just not sell it at all.
He could just hold on.
Why didn't he just keep it?
Keep all the album.
Keep the publishing that he owned.
Because he still got an album coming up.
You know what I mean?
So yeah.
So even if he didn't sell it,
I just think it's a good way to degenerate good.
Positive will.
Positive talk around.
His project dropping.
Him and his album.
You know what I mean?
Did he love?
You know, I'm all about love.
And blah.
Like, he's doing it.
Like, it's good.
It breeds good will.
For example.
he gives back the publishing
or he gives back the rights to the artists.
He's still an executive producer on the projects.
Maybe, I don't know if he is or isn't.
Is it possible that when Mace sells his publishing,
if he does, that Dittie still gets money from it?
So he's not completely removed from the profitability of the music.
It's just not in his hands to sell it to somebody else.
I'm not sure how that works,
because I don't know, I don't know,
I really don't understand how publishing works
because Mace wrote a lot of records for Diddy as well.
You know what I'm saying?
So there's records Mace probably wrote on that he didn't get published before,
but maybe Diddy gave him a flat fee.
I'm sure a lot of the songs that Diddy and Mace have together,
of course, Diddy's going to always probably profit off a lot of those records
because it was his label.
He's the executive producer.
Shit happens.
You know what I mean?
Like he's going to always find a way to, I'm sure, make money off a lot of these records.
Amazing commodity music is.
Is there any commodity more valuable?
You create a song...
Sex.
Well, here's the thing.
Sex has diminishing returns.
Talk to me.
Music, you create a song.
People like the song, they play it even more.
Then they maybe don't play it for a little bit.
And then years later, they come back to it.
And they play it and they're like, oh, my God,
I love this song, and they realize how much I love it.
Some years go by, maybe they don't play.
20 years go by, all of a sudden, the song can have a resurgence,
and now they're playing it all the fucking time,
this one thing you created is going to pay you
for your whole fucking lifetime.
That's a one song.
That vagina got diminishing returns.
Different vaginas play the same tune.
But it's different vaginas.
You never know.
Give me one vagina.
It's still hitting 40 years later.
Ain't one vagina still hit in 40 years later.
But that's why you just give new ones.
That's why music is so brilliant.
That one single,
Thriller is going to slap for a century.
Yeah.
Ain't a hundred-year-old pussy on this planet still slapping.
Okay, well, explain Taylor Swift then.
Greatest of all time.
Taylor Swift took, I don't know.
What I'm saying is, are we talking about music?
He took that first vagina from the first album.
Yes.
We did it.
Refurbished it.
You know what I'm saying?
But she had to re-perish.
She had to refurbish.
It had to be different.
Each song is different.
So that's why you have vaginal rejuvenation.
You need to do a surgery to a song,
sorry, to a vagina to make it good 40 years later.
You don't need to do a surgery to thrill.
A thriller is still going to hit.
You got to fucking, you got to master it a different way, though.
You got a, you got a fact, but make it to way it hits in these new sound systems and shit.
What do they call it?
What do they call it when they remastering?
Yeah.
Not even, bro.
What about the Kim K. 6th?
I feel like that gets a resurgence every once in a while.
Yo, but it ain't hit and hitting, bro.
It's not at the point where it's like,
oh, this is going to shut down the party.
Yeah, those old songs don't hit.
Bro.
Are you kidding me?
You know why?
That's a good example.
She's been married four times.
That's what I'm saying.
You've been married four times.
But she's still got to work every time.
Same vagina, different tune for different people.
But she's still got to work.
She got to stay in shape.
She got to get plastic surgery tune up.
She is constantly, constantly working.
This song is.
you made once and then you're eating forever on it.
If you buy some gasoline, you use it in your car.
It's done never to be used again.
Yeah.
It is recyclable.
I'm just saying music, bro.
Oh my God.
They really might not be nothing like music.
Nothing.
I can't think of it.
I mean, I guess, I guess.
Yeah, movies.
But movies have the minute to return.
You can't watch the same movie every single day over and over and over again
in the way that you can't music.
Yes, I can't.
I'll watch Rocky.
I'll watch Rockie.
I watch Rocky 2.
I watch the endgame scene when the goddamn portals open.
That's a great thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Those are like, ooh, I'm not going to lie.
Those are adrenaline rushes, man.
What I'm on right now is watching scenes from movies on YouTube.
Oh, yeah.
I love that.
Like an iconic scene from Maverick, an iconic scene from Rocky,
an iconic scene from Friday Night Lights or some, not Friday Night Lights,
what's the movie called?
Strong Side.
Right on.
Brokeback Mountain?
No, no, no, no, no.
Stop running it lights it.
Remember the Titans.
Like these iconic scenes on YouTube,
and it just taps you into that emotion,
that feeling that you had.
That's all you want.
And you just need two and a half minutes.
I don't need the two hours.
That's it.
Like an end game,
I know exactly where I like to start at it.
Where do you go?
When fucking Hulk puts on the glove
and snaps his finger.
When Hulk puts on the glove
and snaps his finger and everybody comes back
but Thanos is already in.
And so Thanos starts bombing on
the facility at the facility
they're at and then they go to war
from that moment until
the portal's open and then
Tony Stark's, Tony Snark snaps,
it's two snap, baby. Two snaps up in a circle.
From Snap to Snap to Snap.
Snap. That's all I need from endgame,
you know. And I love Ingame. Great movie.
But that snap to snap is all I need
and I'm good. Yeah, that's fantastic. That's all I need,
man. Damn.
Speaking of Kim, Kanye's banned.
I don't believe that.
He's banned. You really believe he's banned?
Yeah, he's just, it's the owner of the Boca.
They said, don't bring your fat ass on my boat no more.
Come on, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not like there haven't been naked people on the boats before.
I don't buy that one bit.
The boat company banned the couple from Everald riding on the boats again after pictures went viral.
The couple seemingly participating in sexual acts while riding through Venice, Italy.
Here's my thing.
I still don't understand why he did that.
I don't think that he was doing anything sexual.
I think that he just had his pants sagged, wasn't wearing underwear, so his butt was showing.
He thought that his jacket would be covered.
are he's really married.
What do you mean?
Because when you're really married, man,
you got to get it when you can get it.
That's fast.
You know what I'm saying?
So with these boats that you take in Venice,
like you get picked up at the airport,
you essentially take this boat to your hotel,
where he's sitting on the boat,
the whole boat where the seats are,
where he's sitting,
what he's sitting basically on this part.
Look at this, this part of the seat.
Yeah.
So she's not on her knees.
She's sitting on the actual seat.
This is a very normal way to ride this boat.
I mean, come on, come on.
Come on, look, come on.
He even got the head position.
Yeah, like.
If right now you got down on your knees
and I put my hand behind your head like that
and somebody took a picture of it,
they're going to say Shultz was giving it all the main head.
That don't look like a girl about to give head, you know.
But the seat would be facing the other way.
She looked worried.
She's like, here?
She's reversed on the seat.
And we just got off the plane?
You got plane dick.
You know what I'm realizing?
Like you smell like we've been flying for hours.
Are you sure?
You know how Captain America needs his shield?
Yeah.
That's what a girl with fat tits is for Kanye.
Kanye really can't get the buzz going unless he got an ambiguously looking white girl with fat tits.
It is a specific thing.
And racially ambiguously looking white girl with fat tits, he can get cooking, bro.
He can make news.
We've seen this a million.
times. If Kanye want to, you know,
really make news now, he got to pop out with a black
one. You know what I'm saying? When?
Whenever. Like, pop out with a sit, and I'm talking
about it. Show me when it really made
news. I think he knew. Amber Rose
was his best moment.
Racially ambiguous-looking
white girl with fat tits. We know
that she's Kiberian. She know that
she is technically black. But if
you see her in person, you think she's
white? Amber Rose? You think so?
Yes. Nah.
Yes, Charlie.
Nah.
She got blonde hair.
Amber Rose don't look white.
She's a wig on.
I can see how your bikes.
Yes, she does.
What I'm saying is racially ambiguous but whitish.
Like there is, like for example, this girl, Beyonce says whatever it is.
She is racially ambiguous kind of, but she's white.
Kim Kardashian, racially ambiguous kind.
I guess she's Middle Eastern, but she's kind of one.
All the more reason that if he goes and gives him a fly, beautiful sister, shut down the internet.
I think he's done it and it doesn't happen.
I can't think.
I've never seen him with one.
Exactly.
I thought Amber was the one.
Exactly.
His girlfriend when he was coming up, she was black.
Alexis.
And nobody even knew who she was.
But nobody knew who Kanye.
Nobody knew who Kanye was in either, though.
But whatever reason, the public seems to enjoy when he is dating a specific archetype of girl.
He didn't, they didn't care when she was dating Irene Shake because the tithes ain't big enough.
He needs fat chest.
He needs fat chest.
Julia, whatever her name is Fox.
Right?
They cared about it.
It needs to be fat tis.
Now, he did date this absolutely beautiful black woman.
Nobody cared.
No, remember he was dating that beautiful black girl for a little bit?
Who?
Exactly.
Who?
Who?
I really don't remember.
Who?
After Kim, yeah.
After Kim, right?
He was dating a bunch of different.
I think he was out with a sister right now, man.
It would do wonders for him, man.
If Kanye popped out with a black woman right now, everybody would be like, oh, shoot.
Is Jay back?
He knows what works, bro.
But he's married, isn't?
Remember he dated the girl that kind of looked like Kim?
Yeah.
That was the girl.
And people ain't care that much.
Because she looked like Kim.
And he was still lusting over Kim on Twitter.
Remember he wanted to fight, eat, and all this other stuff and was making crazy music videos.
Like, God bless Kanye, man.
I'm not looking forward to hearing any music from Kanye.
Are y'all?
Really?
Yeah.
I don't believe me.
He's a king to a god.
I don't believe you.
He still has that gift of making me.
Oh, no.
Listen, he's one of the greatest musicians, producers.
I'm always going to listen.
I would rather hear Kanye do what Hit Boy and Nas are doing.
I want Kanye to get with, like, his favorite rapper are a dope young up-and-coming rapper
and do what Nas and Hit Boy are doing with each other.
Because, see, Nas went and got with one of the young producers.
Hit Boy clearly has been a Nas fan all his life, and he just, you know, has been feeding
Nas the type of production that got Nas and his bag over.
and over. I want to see an older producer do that with a young artist. I actually wanted to see
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I think it would be dope to see Kanye do that with, like,
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I would love another watch the throne.
Jay-Z not touching that.
That would be.
I don't want that.
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I want to see Kanye collaborate with somebody
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Now can Kanye do it for someone else?
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Is he willing to
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Well, until he was able to do it for himself
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But even then he was, think about how he bought Pushy Team.
Push your team wasn't a solo artist
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You know what I mean?
Like, he re-energized a lot of people.
Like, yeah.
Yeah, Kanye could.
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Now, pull that up, Taylor.
I want to talk about that.
You know, you know, huh?
I saw that already, though.
LeBron James Agent Rich Paul takes a jacket
Jack at Steph Curry.
Whoa!
Rich Paul was on Gilbert Arenas's podcast.
Salute to Gilbert Arenas.
And he said, scroll up, Taylor.
We can put the audio in too.
But scroll up, Taylor, back to the headline.
He said, would Golden State Warrior star
Steph Curry get discredited like Lakers star, LeBron James?
In particular, he was talking about the bubble championship Shultz.
If Steph wins in the bubble, they discredited it?
Yeah, you got to.
No.
No, they don't.
We still saying the same thing.
It's a bubble ring.
That's what Rich Paul say.
Listen, if you want people always making the argument for why you're the best, just be number two.
It's very simple.
When you are number one, there's only one way to go.
Yep.
So the cost of being LeBron James is everybody trying to not justify why you're the best.
Everybody's trying to discredit your greatness.
That is the only thing that happens when you are unanimous number one of your generation.
Yeah.
Okay?
People would do this with Michael Jordan all the time.
Oh, Larry Burr was really better.
Magic Johnson was really better.
Ah, Hakeem is really better.
No, nobody's really better.
Steph is not greater than LeBron.
Yes, he is.
To you, he is.
To some people, he is not.
And to those people,
the argument is always fun
and tantalizing to digest on
is what if he was?
What if he is better?
You know how I know Steph's better?
Talk to me.
Because LeBron, James,
agent just bought Steph Curry up? Why Steph Curry? Why if Steph Curry wins in the bubble, he doesn't
get frustrated. I think LeBron is very frustrated because I think LeBron wants unanimous love and affection,
right? That's not the way this works. Exactly, but he wants to be a king. And what is a king
supposed to be? Unanimously love and treated as royalty, obviously. And the reality is that's not
what happened with kings. You know what people really felt towards kings? They want to behead them.
They fucking hate it. Exactly. And the reality is,
is,
Bra's not going through
anything that
nobody else
hasn't gone to.
Michael Jeffrey
Jordan is the bar.
Yep.
But people would
always find the way.
There's always something.
Oh,
well,
if he'd have came back
those,
if he hadn't retired,
he wouldn't want eight in a row.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
The Rockets would have
beat them if he'd have stayed
around.
If an if was a split,
we'd all be high right now.
There we go.
Like, who gives the fuck
about that silliness?
The reality and the situation
is this is what happens.
And guess what?
If Steph Curry would have won in the bubble,
they'd have been discredited in his championship, too.
You know why?
Because that's what we do.
Yeah.
Steph got two rings now that people try to discredit.
Yep.
Kevin Durant was on the team.
And Kevin Durant got two rings now that people try to discredit.
Yep, he joined his super team.
It don't matter.
It's what we do.
It's what we do to grade.
It's what we do.
As human being, is what we do to grade.
Yes, man.
We have to find a way discredit.
So we justify why we aren't over there.
Oh, I'm not over there because I didn't join a super team.
If me, Andrew Shultz, join the Gold State Warriors,
I'm not winning a fucking ring.
Yes, you would.
In that era, would that team?
If Kevin Durant and me went there, yeah.
Yeah, all you got to sit on the bench.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
I guess what I'm saying is I'm not going to be that difference maker.
But this is what we do to greatness,
is what we do to successful people,
is part of our humanity to do it, right?
This is just what we fucking do.
We've built literal forms of government
around this concept.
Yeah.
human beings have a tendency to tear down those that are in charge, those that are at the top.
So we've created democracy so that literally after one term or two terms, we can tear those people down.
We used to have kings and we're like, fuck that guy.
We need a system where we can build someone up, literally vote them into power, and then almost immediately afterwards, tear all that power away from them.
Because that is what human beings do.
So, yeah, this is a normal thing, and it's something LeBron has to put up with.
And you know what?
It's the price of greatness.
There you go.
There's nobody on this planet who is not going to go through this.
I don't care what field you're in, what industry you're in.
They love you.
And then when you up and you win too much, they don't want you to win anymore.
Like literally, like you don't even have to change anything.
Like, they just be like, eh, you know, they wake up on day.
Like, you know what?
I'm not rooting for him no more.
You know what I'm saying?
You did change.
You became great.
And that's all it takes.
It comes through the territory.
And it's your job as someone who is great to make all those people hating on you or criticizing you look like haters.
That's your job. That's your job. That comes to the territory. You can't be upset about it. You can't cry about it. You've got to go, it is my job to make all these people criticizing me look like haters instead of logical people making very objective criticism.
And there's only one way to do that by being.
great. That's it. By being great
constantly. That's it. And you don't get to rest
on your loyels with greatness. You got to keep
producing greatness constantly. That is
what happened. Because the moment you slip for
real. They coming for your neck. That's right. And people
were like, oh shit. He really
did have a mishap. Oh shit. This really
did fall off a little bit. Like soon as that
happens, they're like, we see, we told y'all.
Try to be the king and telling all the people
who are starving because there was a drought
and you didn't have a good harvest. Oh yo, but wasn't I
a good king five years ago? Fuck you.
Fuck five years ago. That's right.
That's right.
That's the game.
Rich Ball was, he was cooking on Gilbert Arena, so he said this too.
I want to add this too.
Listen to this, Chuck.
Mike transcended the game.
When Kobe came,
Kobe was a silhouette of Mike, right?
That's everything, which is great.
But LeBron is the first player to have to deal with a 24-7, 365,
news cycle of sports and opinions.
from those that's not even capable
or carry the expertise
to give a valid opinion.
Right?
In addition to, no, I'm not going to really do it
how y'all want me to do it.
I'm probably going to do it how I decide to do it.
We all know that don't go over well, right?
And so then you have this,
you have this environment and this sports society
that's created, right?
And so now you have the root against.
That's a whole other thing
that Mike never had to deal with
because his hardest critic
was probably Peter Vesson.
Yeah.
Straight up.
You see what I'm saying?
Fucking Peter Vass.
But I just think LeBron's
antlers is in platinum
and Michaels may be in gold.
Why?
Because when you think about
he had to be compared to Mike.
We might have to be compared to.
Talk about it.
I don't, you know, I want...
He's got to say it.
That's his boy.
That's his clients.
Like, he's doing exactly what he should do.
I want friends like that,
but I don't want friends like that.
You know what I'm saying?
No, you do.
You want people to believe in you, Charlotte.
I do, but not to that extent
because that's just nothing he said just now is true.
Yeah, but other than, yes,
there is a you know the news is different now everybody's a critic but what the fuck that got to do
with you on the basketball court so the thing about this thing is and i'm sure what rich understands
is that like media is going to dictate history right uh history is a is a uh there's a great
napoleon bonaparte vote uh history is a set of lies agreed upon and that goes the same for sports
Not as long as we still alive.
But we will die.
Hopefully not anytime soon,
but we will die.
Yes.
And eventually, the only people that will be alive
are the ones that remember the greatness of
maybe it's LeBron, maybe it's a different player.
The reality is, we're not talking about Bill Russell right now.
But Bill Russell was by far the most dominant basketball player in history.
Now, there are ways you could criticize him.
Oh, there was only 12 teams in the league.
He was the winningest player in history.
I'm not going to say most dominant.
I mean, if you're winning, that's pretty dominant.
Because I didn't see Bill Russell, so I don't know what kind of player he was.
These kids didn't see Jordan, and there will be kids that didn't even see LeBron.
So there are people that only saw you, right?
Listen, we can have this discussion with you.
I say this all the time.
You're the greatest radio personality of your generation, right?
Now, I only know if we're going to go, I only know two generations of radio.
Right?
I know you and I know Howard.
Okay?
That's a few before me, but yeah.
That I know.
That's your generation, right?
And I know there are plenty that you're competing against,
but I think that you've,
I think the only person that we can discuss you with is Howard.
If we're talking about generation, Wendy?
Yeah, Wendy's best.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
No, no.
And again, but like, I don't,
I think that you're better than Wendy.
I do.
I don't think I'm better than Wendy,
But you see what I can do there?
I can say that.
That's great, but it's not up for you to decide, to be honest.
That's true.
Because you're not indulging in you.
That's true.
We are.
False.
Fastly.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is that like the public is going to decide they're going to be people that only saw you.
And they're going to see other things from Howard.
Maybe they see some of his more recent stuff, these like in-depth interviews.
He's fantastic interviewer.
But they never saw any of those crazy antics from before.
and they go, nah, he's not fucking with Charlotte, bro.
Charlie got the serious interviews,
and he got the goofy stuff.
He can be funny on the fly.
He got the donkey the day, so he's writing a script.
Like, he's not fucking with him.
And they're probably young kids that might even feel that way about LeBron.
And they're objectively saying,
I've seen Jordan.
I've seen him making these mid-range dump shots.
He's fall away.
But he didn't have no three-point game.
He didn't have this.
He didn't have that.
So history, eventually, there's going to be a time
where people just go, yeah, it's always the greatest.
at radio.
They'll just say it.
But what about when we as adults
tell these little kids
shut the fuck up?
Since when do kids listen to
adults?
You don't know what the fuck
you're talking about.
Why these kids listen to adults?
We didn't listen to adults.
I guess my biggest problem
with Rich Paul's statement
is he said
LeBron got platinum antlers
and Jordan has gold.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
At least both platinum.
Because that's what I would say
if I'm comparing you and Howard, right?
I'm not going to say that
I'm going to say platinum,
I'm going to say Howard has platinum because he was the top for me.
He's the guy.
Until you.
Do you see what I'm saying?
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
You can't bring someone down when someone else comes around.
That's the level that was set.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's the bar.
You don't tarnish the material.
There's no downgrading Michael Jordan.
You can't.
You can say, you can say, oh, they've reached both platinum.
And then you can be like, yo, he's platinum, but his antlers are bigger.
That's fine.
And Rich Ball would never.
let somebody do that to Jay-Z.
Ooh, that's an interesting.
Because he loves Holve, right? The name of his
new book is called Lucky Me. You know what I mean?
Named after one of my favorite Jay-Z records, and he said
his favorite Jay-Z record as well. You wouldn't
let nobody do that to Hove. You wouldn't
let nobody say, Drake is platinum.
Hove is gold. You know,
Kendrick is platinum, Hove's gold. No.
This is top tier.
Yes. Echelon.
And then we can have that discussion.
Yeah. And to be honest, that discussion is
going to change based on what you want.
There's going to be people that listen to you and they listen to Howard.
They're going to be like, I'm going to be honest.
Howard is not for me.
I just don't like it as much.
And then there's going to be people that listen to you and they listen to Howard.
They're going to be like, honestly, Charlotte is not for me.
But you're going to have that debate.
You're going to have that.
And that's where LeBron should be.
Absolutely.
That's the compliment.
When you're being debated with the greatest.
That's all you want.
That's all you want.
That's all you want.
Because you're ready.
You're never going to be greater than the person.
that people saw come up.
That's right.
When we witnessed Jordan coming up,
there's no way that LeBron is going to be able to supersede those emotions that we had.
I'm not going to lie.
When I saw him win that championship with Cleveland, I was like, holy shit, he's the greatest.
That happened.
I'm a prisoner of the moment, God.
But that happened to me in that moment.
And then I sat back and I was like, okay, let me just fucking chill out for a fucking second.
I'm prisoner of the moment, Schulte.
You already notice about me.
I go to the Hamptons as the greatest place on the planet.
I go to Bernie Man's the greatest place on the plate.
I was thinking about that.
You really were Odean.
You was in the fucking club with the fucking crown on and the fucking tape on back.
I was loving it, bro.
This was the next year.
He really thought that they was about to do it again.
Again.
But that's me.
I know that about me.
The last thing I try is the greatest thing I ever had.
You know what I mean?
So I needed a moment just to chill and take it in.
But that's the greatest accomplishment you can have across generation.
If you're part of the same generation,
There's going to be one that's flattom.
But across generations, the best you can do is be in the conversation.
But I think that's what's causing Rich Paul to bring up Steph Curry's name right now.
Because the reality of the situation is...
He feels like there's discussion within the same generation.
It is, though.
Why wouldn't it be if a man beat you three...
If you played this guy four times in NBA finals,
and Steph and his guys beat you three times the one...
And plus this little light-skinned kid from Akron as well,
came up in Charlotte, North Carolina,
revolutionized the game of basketball.
He did.
Got everybody playing like him from men to women.
No, this is, what I would say is,
step is way more influential in the way the game is played.
Because you cannot be 6-9-270 like LeBron is.
Word up.
In order to play his game.
Nobody's really, he doesn't have a distinguishable characteristic in his game.
He's got LeBron that you could copy.
He's got amazing court vision.
But besides that, there's not like a movie.
that he's doing that you can copy.
Right.
He's just so unbelievably well-rounded, healthy,
an incredible shape, incredible court vision, unselfish.
But Step has distinguishable characteristics.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
And the bronze's been around for a long time,
so he's been around for a couple of different generations.
Tim Duncan got a couple of rings on bronze watch.
Derk Milwaukee got a ring on bronze watch.
Steph got three on bronze watch.
I'm just saying
and nobody
say they
ate off
Michael Jordan
like that
that's all I'm saying
There were people
that got rings
while Jordan
was around
There are people
I mean Detroit
I mean yeah
But that's part
I was having this
conversation yesterday
That's all part
of Jordan's legacy
Overcoming adversity
Detroit was
busting his ass
One championship
back to back
Busting his ass
He had to overcome
that adversity
But when he got in position
never lost it.
And you're saying LeBron
has.
Quite a few times.
Like quite a few times.
Is LeBron one of the greatest
to ever do it?
Absolutely.
Top five?
Absolutely.
You know what I mean?
Top three?
Absolutely.
Well, I got a man, four.
But top three, absolutely
in most people's eyes.
Top two, he's actually top two
in most people's eyes.
Yep.
They debate whether he's one or he's two,
which I think it's totally disrespectful
to Kobe Jelly, Green,
but whatever.
All I'm simply saying is,
To say that Jordan has platinum, I mean, Jordan has gold and brown has platinum.
Come on, Rich Paul.
Come on.
Yeah.
But again, I'm not looking for an objective opinion from the guy's best friend and agent.
Like, I just, I don't think you're ever going to get that.
And I like the fact that he's arrived for his dude.
I do like that.
And it's also, he's not riding for, he's not saying, yo, Ray Allen is the greatest.
No disrespect to Ray Allen, but like nobody's saying that.
He's saying that his guy who is in the top two conversations.
is better.
I'm okay with that.
I don't think you're a delusional,
I don't think you're like a delusional
dick rider if you're saying that.
I ain't going to say you call you a dick rider,
but you kind of like delusional.
My point is,
it was Michael Jordan to gold.
I think gold has big music.
Gold is crazy.
Exactly.
It's a lot of records.
What?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The gold comment was crazy,
but just thinking that LeBron is better than Jordan,
and that's your man,
and you've ridden with him forever,
and you've seen the greatness.
and to be honest, how old is Rich Paul?
He's probably our age, right?
He knows.
He's younger.
He knows.
Talk that shit, Chris.
Talk that shit.
Here's the difference though,
because I was thinking about this this weekend.
I was watching Iran's first final runs with Cleveland, right?
He had terrible teams around him, right?
I mean, if you look in retrospect, he had nobody there.
You know, El Gaucus,
yeah, Moe Williams.
I mean, these guys were barely NBA players.
But my question with LeBron,
this is what Rich Paul plays into it is,
I think LeBron is the first superstar
who is also his own GM, right?
Jordan obviously had power.
He had sway.
Jerry Krause was the GM, right?
That's a really interesting argument.
So I think the reason Brown's not the goat
is also his own fault,
because I think he's picked too many of the players around him.
Steph has influence.
He's not the GM with the word.
So when did, when did Braun start doing that?
Is the question nowadays?
I think he's had that.
Almost immediately.
Almost immediately.
I mean, that was part of the reason.
You don't pick those teams he had around him, bro.
Like, get the one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe that's why he wasn't doing it.
Like, nobody wanted to come to Cleveland, though.
That's true.
But also the reason why he basically left Miami is because,
um, is, what's his name?
I can't believe.
At Riley.
Right.
You know, is that Riley said, I'm the gym.
LeBron has his own agency.
This isn't allowed to have.
Yeah, it's unprecedented.
You're not supposed to happen.
It's the biggest nod, nod, wink, wink in the history of sports.
You're not allowed to have the top player in the league also run his own agency
and make moves behind the scene.
And be the GM.
You're basically signing the deals for your own clients.
He doesn't run the agency.
No, no, but he doesn't run the agency.
Come on, we all know what it is.
So if he isn't on that level, he owns more of that than these other players, what I'm saying.
What I would say is if your argument is that he is the first, like, player GM, okay?
Right.
Now, if your argument is that he's the first player GM, and that was to his detriment because he didn't make great GM moves, that's fair.
What I would also say is that being the first player GM, and I wonder if Kobe was a player GM, actually, I think he was.
Because I think Kobe was like, Shaq, got to go.
Weren't they auto?
Like, when you get that level, Magic Johnson?
Magic got coach inspired.
I'm saying over personnel.
Yeah, like actually hiring players.
I think Kobe was that.
I'll be honest.
I think Kobe was super involved in those decisions.
But let's call LeBron the first player GM.
You could also make an argument for that being part of his greatness
because he was literally building the teams that ended up winning.
Now, maybe he would have won even more with someone who was more specialized.
But he was responsible for those teams in a way that other players were not responsible.
Right.
But I'm saying when he was in Miami and there's,
There was someone with real power like Pat Riley who was vetoing in all likelihood.
And they were doing amazing.
He's doing amazing.
Yeah.
He would have won for years if he had stayed there.
I think the only thing, yeah, the trip to him up.
But Riley don't play that shit.
Riley's like, you're not the king over here.
I'm the king.
There's one king of Miami and is Pat Robb.
No, you're right.
Because Miami's been to the championship like, what, two times since Braun left?
Like they've always been, they went last year.
Yeah.
They went in the bubble.
Yeah.
with teams that you would not think were championship.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that's also key culture, and Eric Spolstra is the greatest coach in the NBA that nobody gives credit to, but he's undeniably the greatest.
And Pat Riley and still is an unbelievable culture in that team, and everybody just gets on board.
And Jimmy Butler is just absolutely fantastic.
He's a fantastic player that will reinforce the culture.
Why don't more people want to go play in Miami?
I think it's starting to happen a little bit.
Like Miami's a beautiful city with a great history.
with a great history.
Like, why wouldn't you want to go play in Miami?
I think it's starting to happen.
I mean, if you really want to know.
If I was KD, I don't went to Miami.
Say what?
I don't went to KD.
I wouldn't went to Miami before Brooklyn.
If I was KD.
Bro, here's the thing.
This is how amazing Miami's culture is
in the stronghold that Spolstra,
Pat Riley, and Jimmy Butler have over Miami.
These are NBA players, right?
Young guys,
full of testosterone
that can fuck 90%
of the women on the planet.
And they are in Miami.
Not getting their dick weight every night.
Not fucking around. Not getting caught up having fucking babies everywhere.
Not getting in trouble.
Not getting car crashes.
It's right there.
We were in Miami for four months.
It was panthalizing.
Yeah.
It's like three little Alexes in Miami right now.
Probably.
Probably.
You asshole.
The point is that's what happens when you have a real strong fucking culture.
Yeah.
No, you're absolutely right.
You absolutely right.
That's probably why they don't want to go to it.
Like the big players.
Now, talk on that.
Why?
Because they want to have that power and have that control over their team.
And have that fun.
They want to have fun.
And it's like, yo, we ain't having all that fun.
Let me tell y'all young boys something.
Y'all young players.
You know what y'all should learn how to do, win.
Yeah.
And you know how you learn how to win by getting with winners.
And Pat Riley's a fucking winner.
I mean, you want to be with Pat Riley.
You want to be with Pat Riley.
You want to be with people that know how to motherfucking put together teams and win.
Because clearly y'all don't.
where I saw a player who will, you know, I will not name this weekend.
In Hamptons?
At the club.
And it was one of those things like...
Does he got a ring?
No, of course not.
And you look at him and say he's never going to get one.
And you saw his habits in the club and realized why he's never going to get one.
I didn't see his habits in the club.
I wasn't looking.
I just, I was walking in.
I saw him walking in.
I was just like, if I was where you are in your career,
you wouldn't see me in a club.
Now, that's not to say that you don't deserve to party.
It's fucking Labor Day weekend
doesn't mean you don't deserve
to hang out with your friends, et cetera.
But if I was where you are
in your career,
you would never see me in the club
until I dispelled some of the myths about me.
I know exactly who you're talking about.
That's crazy.
Can you say it?
Can you say it?
Can you say it?
Yeah.
Nope.
Oh, that's what I thought.
Nope.
No, when I say who it is,
you all know exactly.
Oh, get the fuck out of here.
No, he's right where he need to be.
He need a little grieval.
Please let him party all you want.
What else you got to celebrate?
Please.
Anyway, my point, and again, I'm not judging because I understand we need it.
But no, you're right.
But you got to know what the public is going to think about you.
They should make him pay to get in the clubs.
I'm that serious.
They should make him pay to get in the club.
Him and everybody he's with.
That's funny.
Yo, I'm such and such.
We don't care.
And also, like,
You cannot party at home because we all buying tickets.
Now, granted, he doesn't play for a n***.
But, like, we're all buying tickets.
So if you're the club and you're actively getting this guy drunk before he got a game for a...
Oh, my God.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Believe that, too.
Oh, is he playing for?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
You don't even know.
Oh, my God.
Because he don't fucking...
That'll give it away.
I'm not even going to leave it.
Yeah, believe a lot of the things that are going to give it away.
Y'all got to figure it out.
Y'all get in the comments and tell us who we're talking about.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I'm with you 100%.
I'm like, bro, you cannot do that.
Like, if you are going to go party, you've got to be in private.
You can't be in a public ass.
He don't deserve nothing.
No free pizza, no free drinks.
He should have to pay to get in clubs.
You should have to pay for every time he go through.
What is it?
Wait in line.
Wait in line, man.
Yeah.
If you care about your team, you will respect the players.
And by respecting the players, I mean, you will not give them alcohol.
You're not giving them carbohydrates.
We're not feeding them ice cream.
You're not giving them extra calories.
You're not giving them anything while they're preparing for the regular season or during a regular season.
If they have a great regular season, we're going into a little break.
Please, let's party.
Let's dance.
Let's hang out.
How day he celebrate Labor Day?
He don't even work.
That's what I'm talking about.
What the fuck you?
You've been celebrating Labor Day for you.
How dare he?
That's crazy to me, yo.
Okay.
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Remember, guys, it's after Labor Day,
so no more sleeping with white women.
Just want to throw that out there, okay?
And also, we didn't salute the goat, man.
We did a whole segment about sports talk
and didn't salute the goat.
Prim-time, Dion, motherfucking standards.
One of the greatest motivational speakers of all time.
have these conversations about coaches
who can make their players run through a fucking brick wall.
And he could do it.
Can't nobody make you run through a goddamn brick wall
like Dionne motherfucking?
Can you explain what the drama is about?
I'm trying to understand.
O'Cauts was trying to explain to us on Flagrant,
and I still didn't get it.
Drama?
I don't think of drama.
I think that, you know,
there was drama when he left Jackson State
because people wanted him to stay at Jackson State
because he was in HBCU.
He went to Colorado.
And I think that you have,
had a lot of people who didn't think,
which is weird to me,
who didn't think that a lot of these kids
that he bought from an HBCU
could perform at this high level,
which makes no sense because...
Oh, did he bring HBCU players there?
But here's the thing.
These guys played for an HBCU,
but Travis Hunter was a fucking four-star recruit.
You know what I mean?
Like, his son was like a four-star recruit.
Like, these are some of the top, you know,
he recruited players in the country.
He recruited the talent to the school
that wouldn't usually get this talent.
That's all.
And now he's taking that talent
to where they usually would be.
You know what I mean?
Gotcha.
And he's also prolific as a coach.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
And nobody expected.
They beat TCU.
TCU's ranked number 17.
They were the runner rubs in the national championship game last year.
You know, he comes in with 86 new players.
They were 21 point underdogs.
Unbelievable.
You know what I mean?
His son threw for 500 yards or something.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
threw for over 500 yards,
connected with four different receivers.
All of them had over 100 yards rushing.
I'm like, yo, man,
if this out of Colorado will be playing all year,
this is going to be my favorite team to watch.
Bro, can you talk to talk about this?
I think it was Travis Hunter kid
who was playing on both sides of the ball.
I think they said he played like 127 snaps.
Not sustainable, though.
Of course not sustainable.
Yeah, I don't want to see that for that young man.
But what a talent.
What a fucking talent.
Unbelievable.
He had an interception.
He had 11 catches.
He had over 100 plus yards.
Like he is, and he wants to hide him.
He already played.
He's like, I want the hiding.
And just to, you know, clarify for people who are watching from abroad,
in football, you usually play one.
American football.
The real football usually play one position,
and that is usually an offensive position or a defensive position.
Some people will also play what is called special teams,
and that's when you do the kickoff, the returns.
That's why Dion was special.
So Dion would line up at Y Receiver every now and in.
Yep.
He was one of the best.
defensive backs. And he was a punt returner
and a kickoff. That's right.
So, but,
so it's very rare that you see, especially
when you get really specialized in
college football, to see a wide
receiver and a defensive,
what is he, what is he?
Cornerback, right? He's a quarterback, right?
Not only is it rare because it
takes so much talent to play either position, but
also you're going to be exhausted. Like, you're
going 100. He must have been
on the blue chew. He must have been
blue chew.
and elevate you.
I'm serious, man.
There's no reason for Travis Hunter to do what he did.
And didn't look gas or nothing and was giving it his all, every fucking play.
I'm like, y'all don't want that for that kid, man.
Yeah, he's amazing we don't need that.
Yeah, the reason obviously you say that is because,
and people are starting to speculate about this with AAU basketball is you only have
so much wear and tear that your muscles, your joints can take.
That's right.
So if he's playing literally twice as much as any.
other athlete would play. That's going to take away
from their professional career. My God.
And I think that's what they're saying. A.A.U. Basketball
kids, it's like, oh, he's got AAU
knees, right? How much fuck is that?
He goes, well, these AAU teams are traveling
they're playing fucking five games a weekend
or whatever it is. So by the time
those kids reach college,
their knees are taking a fucking pound.
Absolutely. Does he get
two salaries if he's playing
both sides? Two salaries.
Isn't that interesting now? It should be, right?
Well, he wouldn't because obviously he's a con,
college.
You can't.
But in pros, no.
But isn't that interesting,
you should be able to?
And I think that's why a lot of them
would be like, I'm not doing that.
Yeah.
It's not worth it.
I can get injured now.
He likes it.
Two times a chance.
Of course.
Yeah, he loved it.
And maybe you don't get two salaries,
but maybe you get the highest salary
that your position would get.
So in other words,
if you're that dynamic that you can play
on both sides of the ball,
I'm not just going to play you as a corner.
I'm not just going to pay you as a wide receiver.
I'm going to pay you as a wide receiver.
I'm going to pay you as wide receiver.
Receiver Plus.
What about the guy on the Angels?
Isn't he the baseball version?
Shohay Otani, who is arguably, like, you know, some might say the most talented baseball
player alive right now, who is a pitcher, who is a dynamic pitcher, and also was leading
the major leagues in home runs.
But that's normal, though.
No, no, no.
Pictures are just sucked at that.
No, only in the National League.
Only in the National League.
And even then, you hide them.
You're talking about your clean-up hitter is also your pitcher.
And keep in mind, pitchers play one.
every five games.
Like, that's how difficult pitching.
Dang.
Right?
Because your arm is fucking dead for a week.
Yeah, I don't watch baseball.
Neither do I.
But it's still impressive to see somebody do it.
Like, you're talking about Bo Jackson type shit.
Dion type shit.
When everybody was-
If you can play baseball?
Come on football.
And baseball on the same week.
I like baseball and everybody
was on steroids.
But Travis Hunter.
I agree.
Travis Hunter, Edwards,
Jimi Horn Jr., Xavier Weaver,
Beast.
And when you got four receivers
that's all got over 100 yards receiving,
I don't need Travis Hunter on every play in one offense.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what's nice about this, like, career art for Dion Sanders,
is that I think a lot of times when you have these incredibly successful athletes,
and it definitely happens with black athletes more,
a lot of their success can be chalked up to this raw, pure athleticism.
And then you see a guy, like, and he had it, right?
Like they said oftentimes when it was like a down, you know,
you had to do like the run the 40-yard dash thing,
He was like, whatever the fastest score is, take a tenth off of that and just put that in.
Because I'm going to beat them no matter what.
And he had that.
But when you see him go into a coaching position, you can't coach someone to run 4.2.
At all.
You have to be able to lead players.
You have to be able to understand the game.
You got to be a leader of men, man.
And really truly understand the game.
So it's like, it's great to see somebody who you could have chalked up his success to just being purely athletic.
Now go, oh, shit, not only was he an elite athlete, he was an elite athlete.
an elite athlete with an incredible acumen for the game,
and that's why he was able to harness that athleticism
in the most profound way.
And now you get to see him just have the understanding of the game
and bestowed out on these other young talents.
Now you have to go look at Dion's career and go,
oh, wow, this was a fundamental genius
that had elite athleticism.
And usually those people that have the elite athleticism,
they don't get a fuck about the fundamentals
because they've been able to beat people off the athletics.
In patience.
I watched Shannon Sharp spit off.
over Stephen A. Smith yesterday, and he said one of the biggest things that Dion Sanders has is patience.
He said he's one of the most patient people.
And so he's able to sit there with those kids.
And when they don't get something, he don't get frustrated.
He don't get upset.
He just has the level of patience with these kids.
And I'm like, wow.
He has the most patient of any historically great player that I've ever, ever seen in my life.
That's a good point.
And I used to talk.
I was like, time, how do you do it?
Because me, bro, if we walk through it, we practice it four days, we walk through it.
The night before the game, we go to first 15.
And then somebody, I'm like, bro, how did you do that?
And then when you think about it and you see him and how they respect him, you can see that.
Because we tend to lose patience with people who lose patience with us.
You know what I'm saying?
Like if somebody's trying to teach you something, but they seem frustrated about it.
And they're like, how the fuck you can't understand?
When you're doing stuff like that to a person, it makes me lose patience with that individual.
They lose confidence.
They lose confidence.
Something that he does to these kids, man, he really makes them feel like they can run through walls.
And there's this quote.
I actually posted it on my Instagram earlier with Dion was like, he just really truly does not give a fuck about the opinions of other people.
And I think that he is able to convey that.
We can assert that clip too, but he's able to convey that to these players.
because these players have to silence all outside noise, right?
Like if you're reading all week how you don't stand the chance,
how you're a 21 point underdog,
how you might not even win a game in September.
They said Colorado may not even win a game in September.
If you're a player and you're seeing all this shit,
subconsciously you might buy into it.
Of course.
And that shit will affect your performance.
You really do become, like your thoughts really do become things.
Yeah.
So if you constantly take it.
that in like, oh, man, we're not going to win, man.
We're 21 point underdogs, man.
They say we're not going to win a game in September, man.
You think we're going to win a game in September?
You can't come in here with none of that self-doubt talk.
Don't come in here with that negative talk.
They were convinced they were going to show up.
They were going to convince they were going to win.
Dion kept saying, we coming, which was crazy, Paul's word.
But he kept saying that over and over.
We're coming. We coming. We coming.
You know what about it.
And Dionne said, we're here now.
After they fucking won, he didn't say, we're not coming no more.
We're here now.
I'm sitting on the couch like, where is camera on when you need them?
That is crazy, but I'll let you go, poor.
Well, shout to Colorado.
I'm watching you.
Y'all might be my favorite team.
I know y'all will be my favorite team to watch all year.
So Dion's so proven as a coach, why hasn't he got a shot at the pro's yet?
What do you think?
Well, I think he's still being proven.
You think?
Yeah, because he didn't play at the highest level, right?
He did it with Jackson State and everybody.
He coached the highest level.
Yeah.
But now, sorry, coach, yeah.
And now he's coaching at,
this isn't even the highest level.
The highest level is the SEC,
what we were talking about before.
But if he's dominant out here in the Big 12, it's called?
I think it's the Big 12 next year.
I don't think it's the Big 12 now.
What is it called us?
Whatever division.
I forgot what they're in now.
Please believe there'll be opportunities.
There'll be opportunities.
Man, Dionne Sanders is, this headline right here is amazing.
If Deon Sanders can shock the world in game one,
imagine what he's going to do in Colorado in the coming years.
Why do they like coming so much?
I'm saying, pause, maker.
You like that.
He's going to win a national championship.
He's going to win a national championship.
That thing you posted was fire when he was just like,
listen, I'm him.
I'm him, man.
But he wasn't even saying it arrogant.
He was saying, a matter of fact,
because you have to understand, I am him.
I have been.
him for years and I am still him. Like, it was just beautiful.
What about me would make you think that I care about your opinion?
Your opinion to me is not the opinion that I have of myself.
You ain't made me so you can't break me. You didn't build me so you can't kill me.
You know, God establish me. So you need nothing you can do to me. I've been dealing with
this foolishness since Pee-Wey football, man. I've been him. I've been a dimmower to make a game
change. I've been that guy. So what would change?
Now that I'm coached.
Not a darn thing.
I'm not even playing the game.
And you got an opinion of me.
I don't care.
And I wish the world thought like that.
Youngsters, do not give a darn what opinion people have with you.
As long as that opinion is not consistent to death of yourself.
You be you.
I'm not planning to make you feel good about me.
I already feel good about me.
I'm good.
Unapologetic, unwavering self-belief.
Yeah.
Why would I let what you guys think about me affect what I think about me?
I know how I feel about me.
So it doesn't matter what any of y'all think.
I am him.
I promise you.
If you ever look around the world and you look at all these different people
in all these different industries,
and if you ever wonder why everybody seems off of their game sometimes,
it's because we all are listening to the opinions of other motherfuckers.
You have to drown that shit out.
To be able to disconnect yourself from what people say about you in this era is a superpower.
Oh, facts.
But you have to do it because that shit will fuck with you.
We just had this conversation last week.
I'm just talking about you.
You can see how people can hear things about their self, read things about
themselves, and internalize it.
100%.
To not be able to internalize that or not taking in at all and know who the fuck you are
and what you're here to do.
It's a super power, man.
Very difficult.
It's a superpower.
Ask an idiot's Taylor.
What was that about Rush?
Scroll up real quick.
What did Rush say?
Russ claims corrupt corporations.
Oh, suit the Russ, man.
Russ, you win it.
Stop worrying about what the corporations doing.
What we got, Taylor?
I forgot.
I just saw Russ talking about it.
Shout out Russ.
Shoot the Russ.
Ooh.
God damn it, Taylor.
That fucking dude got you frazzles.
Like, God damn.
Knowing that man at home right now,
burphing a little baby, got her losing her mind.
Could or would have should have said,
Would you rather aliens or Jesus be real?
Ooh, ooh.
Jesus.
Oh.
Oh.
Jesus, without a doubt.
I think Jesus is.
Why without a doubt, though?
Because I think Jesus, say again?
He could take out the aliens.
Well, no, we wanted to take aliens out, you fucking evil colonizer, Chris.
Why do you want to take them out for no reason?
They're here to take me out of a row.
You don't know that.
You don't know that.
You don't know that.
That's just what we do.
Jesus Christ.
Now, what have people thought about Taiwan?
that.
Fact.
You know what I'm saying?
God damn, Chris.
No, the,
you know, Jesus, I don't know.
I just feel like so many people have changed their lives and behaved in better ways
because of, you know, what they thought Jesus, of who they thought Jesus to be.
I think aliens being real would humble the earth way more than Jesus being real.
Now, keep in mind, Jesus being real, he doesn't need to be the son of God.
but for there to be this historical figure
who was riling shit up and pushing back
and pushing back against authority and a corruption
and being so
I almost said goddamn
no being so about that life and being rebellious
and like if the quote unquote real story
of Jesus not kind of like the
the hippie dude whatever it's all eat together
but I'm talking about the dude who is
who is really about that action walking around the temple
flipping fucking tables. What are you guys about?
Like, I would love for that guy to be real. Nobody's scared
at that right now. Say again?
You know,
I would love that. All his
all the teachings are here, all the stories
about Jesus are here right now. Don't get me wrong.
Let me take that back. There's plenty of people
who are God-fearing, who
worship Jesus, who abide
by Jesus and everything Jesus does.
There's plenty of people on this planet that do that.
But
it's, it's, if
aliens came back right now,
I feel like aliens would humble
people more than Jesus.
We would find a way to politicize Jesus and find a way
to debate about him.
You know what I'm saying? If he was black,
that might turn a lot of people off.
If he really, like,
if he really comes back, described the way
he looks in the Bible, that might turn a lot
of people off. You know what I mean?
And if he comes back telling you,
telling certain
people that they're not, that they're wrong.
Like, right?
That's going to turn people off too.
But who would he tell?
is wrong.
He would do it.
Now he would tell Christians.
Yeah.
But Christians would have to take that.
Christians would have to take that.
He's like, yo, I'm the son of God.
I think one of the dobes thing about Jesus is he's not a man.
This is the son of God.
So this is the epitome of what a man should try to be, even though we will fail.
And it's nice to have that example of what we should be, but not a man.
Understanding the whole time, we cannot achieve that.
But we should try.
when you try to live up to a man,
you constantly feel like shit
that you haven't lived up to the standards
of that other human being.
It's awesome that there's this person
who is perfection, right?
That we cannot live up to
but we should fucking try
and by trying,
we will live a better life,
not only for ourselves
but for the people around us.
What a beautiful idea.
I agree with you,
but you know he's not going to just be judging Christian.
Because he's going to be judging all of them.
You're not going to be judging.
No, but he's Jesus.
Thou shall not judge.
No, he's going to be judging.
That's up to daddy.
That's daddy going to be judging.
If I'm Jesus, I got to question something.
There you're going to question, but he had his man.
He knew his man was going to fucking rat him out.
He already knew at dinner.
He said, yo, come to dinner.
I know you're going to fuck up.
But you wouldn't look around and be like, that dude is the realest.
But you wouldn't look around.
Pull back up in the town on a donkey.
What's up?
Do what you need to do.
But you wouldn't look around.
Do what you need to do, yo.
He wouldn't look around just a little bit and be like, I died for this.
That's what I died for.
Yeah.
But he knew it was lit up there too, bro.
He knew it was lit.
He knew where he was going, man.
He was going to the hands.
You know what I mean?
What about the non-Christian cultures that, like, Muslims, Hindus, all that?
Their culture is just, like, destroyed.
It's not destroyed because all those people do believe in Jesus as a prophet.
So they're going to be like, oh, shit, okay, Jesus was really that dude.
And maybe Jesus comes back and he's like, yo, yeah, Muhammad.
Yeah, we sent Muhammad next.
Maybe he comes back.
He's like, yo, I was there for that time.
I had to get it.
We sent Muhammad next.
We're all saying the same thing.
We're all doing the same thing because dad is telling us to all do the same thing.
Oh, you guys got this wrong about this thing over here.
And Christians, you guys switch this old thing up here at the fucking meeting of Constantinoba, whatever that shit is.
You know, you switch these things up.
But like, the messaging, he'll just clear up the messaging.
Let me ask you this.
Could or would have should have.
You want to ask an idiot.
Let an idiot ask you a question.
Okay.
What if Jesus is alien?
Wow.
What if Jesus would be?
Now, technically, anyone not from this planet who is here is what?
An alien.
You know what I'm saying?
All of that stuff we thought was the walking on water, you know, to turn in the two loaves of bread and fish to feed 40,000, 5,000, how much it was.
Most of the Jesus I've met in my life have been illegal aliens.
That's what I'm saying.
So there is some credibility to argue.
That's right.
That's right.
The resurrection.
You know, he just didn't beam up real quick.
You know what I mean?
Power up.
Come back.
You know what I'm saying?
We'll go back up to the spaceship, come back down.
I'm just saying Jesus could have been an alien.
Then what?
I just hope he looks extremely Jewish.
Say what?
I just would hope he looked extremely Jewish when he comes back.
Why, he's Jewish.
I know.
People don't realize that.
So I would hope he wouldn't look Jewish like you guys.
You mean like black Jewish people?
No, no, no.
It looked like Sephardic Jews.
Like Dave, maybe?
He'd look Arab.
No, he'd look Arab.
No, he's Arab.
He'd look like Nipsey Hussie.
He looked like duff.
Arafat, something like that.
Yeah, he looked Palestinian.
Why would he be fat?
Said he be fat?
Yes, you did.
Didn't he just say that?
Chris really trying to rile up the Jews.
Yeah, I know.
Right.
You really trying to rile up the Jews.
Why would he be fat?
I don't understand.
Jesus is dope, though.
Put some respect on Jesus.
Put some respect on Jesus name, man.
Ooh, Ryan Cooper says,
what is a questionable fetish?
that you can't, won't understand.
Hmm.
Nah, feet is dope.
Everybody getting feet.
Barbie came out.
Y'all couldn't stop talking about feet.
Stop dick riding.
Y'all.
Y'all.
All of the Hollywood, it's a billion-dollar movie.
A billion-dollar movie sold on feet.
Why was it sold on feet?
I didn't see it.
You mean why?
The whole ad, the billboard with her little heels pointed up,
they got her toes out.
Really?
Yeah, y'all all like feet, too.
You're just scared.
Don't be scared.
What would Jesus do?
A question of a question.
What would Jesus do?
Think about what Jesus would do.
I think getting peed on is a questionable fetish that I don't quite...
Bruh.
Like, why would you want to get peed on?
Yeah, that's...
You know what I'm saying?
Like, lining up for the golden shower is kind of crazy.
I don't fuck with that at all.
You know what I mean?
I can understand if you were in the shower and y'all just, you know,
washing together and...
It's a joke.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But just to like lay down to get that goddamn golden shower is crazy.
Crazy.
crazy.
Taking a shit.
Isn't the same as like you guys
like to come on girls?
What you mean? Girls like that?
So you're always girls asking for guys
to like to be?
Come in urine aren't the same things too.
I know they're not. Yeah, but why do girls always ask for that?
Why are girls so fucking hungry for that?
For what?
Just to get drenched up.
I think about these tales.
No, I'm going to ask you.
Are you saying for the man to pee?
Or the woman.
Either or a woman peeing on a man,
a man peeing on a woman.
Like, why would you want that?
Girls love it, bro.
They're cold.
You know how guys always cold.
That's a good observation
because why do people like to come on a girl's face or something?
Exactly.
It's still you're drenching the girl, so it wasn't.
I mean, women got to answer that question.
It's the same difference.
Like if you're giving a guy head,
you might swallow the cum.
But you ain't going to swallow it's pee.
And pee is more healthy for you, I think.
That's got some vitaminism.
Yeah.
Ooh, this is a good one.
Michael Stewart wants to know Taylor.
You could only eat one food for the rest of your life.
Oh, yeah.
That's crazy.
One food.
One food.
Oh, dude, that one's fucking tough, man.
Cheese steaks.
I mean, you can say that now.
That's what you say.
I would say mangoes.
Mango.
You're tired of mangoes.
I love me.
I love me.
I love me.
I'm going to eat mangoes for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, yo.
Mango?
Easy.
Oh, if you're going to have the shit in your teeth, all.
Day? No, bro. You want, why would
I have? I'm not talking about what I'm like, you could, you know,
no, mangoes you can get
tired of. What would you have?
One food for the rest of my life.
It's
it is a cooked, it is a meal
or a piece of food?
Yeah, I can't, yeah, I don't understand what he's saying.
He says one food.
Like a thing, like pizza.
Oh, God.
There's got to be pizza.
Bro, pizza is so good, but no, dude,
because I don't want the bread.
Yeah, but you don't get tired of it.
You don't.
You don't get tired of pizza?
Of course Chris.
High-end sushi.
Chris say high-end sushi.
Bro, no, I have sushi.
Everybody in the room is so fucking stereotypical.
Like, what else is Chris both to say?
The chicken.
God, what would I have, man?
Honestly, this is what I'd have.
A burrito bowl.
So the guac, chicken, the hot sauce, the salsa.
Burrito bowl.
That's it.
If I get tired of the chicken, I just eat that guac and that rice and that salsa.
If I get tired of the rice and salsa, I just eat that fucking chicken.
But that's what I've had.
Dynamic enough.
For me, it would definitely be probably salmon.
I don't know.
It would be a fish.
I don't know if it would be salmon.
You don't get that mercury poisoning
You're going to be dead
No man
Salmon or my
Myi
One of those two fishes
Would be mine
You know what I mean
I can
I can do seafood all day long
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Gooding good
Yeah
Someone slow down
Taylor
Oh this is a good one
I like this
Alex Bowles, 34.
Rank the importance of these qualities.
One through three.
Self-awareness, confidence, hard work.
Ooh, I like that.
We can end on that.
Rank the importance of those qualities.
Hard work.
Sorry, you go first.
I'm going to say self-awareness,
confidence.
I'm actually keeping it in that order.
Self-awareness, confidence, hard work.
Wow.
Hold on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Self-awareness, confidence, hard work in that order.
I don't think there's anything more important than self-awareness.
And the reason I say that, because we live in a society where so many people lack self-awareness
because so many people don't know who they are.
So in order to have self-awareness, you have to have a knowledge of self.
In order to have self-awareness, that means that you have totally drowned out the opinion.
of other people, you know who you are, you know what you're about, and nobody can tell you
any different. And you're aware of, like, all your flaws. When you're self-aware, you're constantly
getting better. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You're constantly getting better because you don't
believe your own height. You know, you can look in the mirror and be like, hey, I'm not as good as they
say I am. They say I am. I'm not as bad as they say I am. I'm always just somewhere in that middle.
Confidence is self-explanatory. You got to have, you know, confidence.
confidence in yourself.
And, you know, real confidence, though,
not confidence that comes because of what position you're in
or, you know, how much money you got
or what kind of car you're driving,
just confidence in you as a human being.
And, you know, hard work is self-explanatory.
Yeah.
I think hard work is number one.
I think confidence is number two.
And I think number three is self-awareness.
But that doesn't mean that it's not incredibly important.
Like all these things are incredibly important.
But I think sometimes some delusion is important
when you're going after incredibly ambitious dreams.
I don't think that's delusion, no.
I think that's confidence.
I think that's kind.
And like somebody like you, at some point in life,
you saw God put something in your heart and your mind
and say, I'm going to be one of the greatest stand-up comics album.
Something was inside of you.
And it gave you that confidence to get on that stage and try out these jokes.
And you put into hard work.
But it started with an awareness of self.
You know when you're a funny guy.
You know who you are.
I hate that it looks like I'm saying that the self-awareness is the least important because all these three things are incredibly important.
And self-awareness is like the magic trick, really.
Because knowing things about yourself allows you to like tap into your humanity, which people relate to without knowing things about
themselves. So like being able to reflect on yourself, someone else will really relate to what
you're talking about, even though they don't realize in that moment, you're actually talking
about them as well. So it's so important. But I think sometimes like if you're really self-aware,
sometimes you're like more fair to yourself than you need to be. You know, like I'm hyper-critical
of things that create. Maybe too critical. But that's good because it's going to push me to get
better. But what if I was like really honest with myself? And I was like, no, that was pretty good.
And it's like, that's why even confidence is a double ed store. It's like you need the confidence
to believe you can be anything, but you need to be so self-critical that you try to perfect it to the
point where you're at the top of your position. But you've got a team. So being that you're aware
enough to know how you feel. So you say, okay, I think this is pretty cool. Let me run about my team.
Yeah. And you have the confidence.
in yourself to listen to the people around you.
If they be like,
that ain't it shows you.
Like, all right, I can go a little bit harder.
You know what I'm saying?
Or if they are, exactly,
or if they say, I don't like that,
but you're like, nah, this shit slaps, you.
You got to know that it's right.
Trust me.
Trust me.
Yeah.
That's confidence.
That's, you're so right, man.
The confidence, you have to have the confidence
to know that the thing that you're doing
that isn't good enough yet will be great
when it gets there and,
what the, you know, your most potent form of expression.
Yeah, dude, all these things, it's really interesting when you break down what qualities
leads to success.
Yeah, all these things are so interchangeable.
It's hard to rank them, but they're all incredibly important, Alex Boss 34.
And, yeah, they're really important to have.
I just got self-aware in this brother because I see so many people who lack it.
And those people have a really difficult time.
Do they?
In the creative process.
Yeah.
You don't feel that there are some people, whether they're happy or unhappy, they're still successful without having self-awareness?
Oh, yeah.
That's why I feel like hard work should be one, because I've never met a successful person that doesn't work on it.
Well, to that point, are they experiencing true success?
I would say that if you're successful, but you lack self-awareness, you know, I don't know if I want that.
because to me those are the people that end up crashing and burning because they don't
they don't know when they don't know when enough is enough yeah I'm not saying they might
be in the happiest state but I'm just saying they can still reach success so that's why I feel
like hard work would have to be number one for this question I'm not like yeah I'm not mad at
either I'm not mad at that even I'm not mad at that all right we done guys I think so we did it we
did it we did it as always if you listen to this podcast you think we're smart you think
we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this
podcast, you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the brilliant
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