The Brilliant Idiots - Holidays and Headlines

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

In this episode, DJ Nyla Symone joins the podcast and they discuss the case of Jonathan Majors and the need for nuanced conversations in society, using celebrity and reach for impact, tweeter deleters, defining journalism and reporting, the value of investigative journalism, recognizing the accomplishments of other radio personalities, the influence of Charlamagne and the Breakfast Club, the power of moving an audience, the changing landscape of media platforms, and more! ************************************ Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount+ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ TaylorMade-It Production Contact: [e-mail] Empty Thoughts Podcast podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empt…ow/id1622292632 Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I love the premise of this show. Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit. Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby. The Brilliant Idiots Podcasts. Yep, Solomon de God. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of Brilliant Idiotness.

The Hezzi has checked out for the holidays, y'all, you know? But being that we were going to be gone for the next couple of weeks, I'm like, man, let's give them at least, you know, one more episode. Helly said, fuck it. He did not feel that way, but I am here, you know, to do a number of things, namely, sell products, okay? As you can see, I have a lot of things from Black Privilege Publishing right here. We have Invisible Generals by Doug Melville, State of Emergency by Temeca Mallory, and Shallow Waters by Anita Copax, plus the classics that started at all, my book, Black Privilege Publishing, as well as Shook One. available wherever you buy books right now.

But Nala Simone is here. What's up, Nala? Hey, Shar. Alex is here, Taylor's here. You forgot about these over here too. Oh, this is just a little something. You know what I mean? This is just, you know, me and Kevin Hart got a company called SBAH Productions.

We put out audible originals, audio scripted content. So you have Finding Tamika by the great Erica Alexander in Color Farm Media. You have Summer of 85 narrated by Kevin Hart from the great Chris Moreau. You have Unleashed for Love, which was created by Alicia Renee and Sarita Wesley. And we have the new one, broke down profits from the New York Times, author of the year, S.A. Cosby, which stars Brian, Tyree, Henry, Dasha Polanco, and a man named Jonathan Majors who was found. Not guilty. That's what we need to leave with. Full up to Jonathan Major story.

I thought he was found guilty. See, that's your problem. It's like partially. No, he was. But see, that's the problem I have with this whole conversation. People lead with headlines instead of actually looking at the details of the situation. Now, click on what actually happened in court this past week. Click on the CNN one.

Jury finds Jonathan Majes guilty of assault and harassment. Now, when you hear that, what do you think? Well, they said over her finger now. But when you hear it, what do you do, like, it's over a fingernail. He was accused of twisting her arm, punching her in the back of the head. Yeah, but he was only guilty of hurting her finger. That's my point. So the larger charge of twisting her arm, punching her in the back of the head, he was found not guilty of.

Essentially what he got, he got two misdemeanors. He got found guilty of two misdemeanors. Pull up, the article back up, Taylor. Oh. Where is it at? Let me be professional here. and read the breakdown, even though Taylor just moved away from the news report

to go to her cliff notes. Do we trust Taylor's cliff notes or do we trust? Now, mind you, Taylor's notes are a neighborhood talk article. No, they're not. Did she moved away from CNN? Go to CNN. Go to CNN. Go to CNN.

I just want you to know that. I put this, first of all, I put the neighborhood talk thing so you all can see what Megan, whatever. Sure, but why do we do this as a people? Why do we go away from trusted news? like CNN. But who said... ...the goal...

...inslude the neighborhood talk, respect neighborhood talk. But just think about that mentality. You were on CNN. Huh? I'm just saying this stuff right here wasn't coming. But that's all previous stuff. It says a verdict is expected. Yeah, see, here we go.

A New York jury on... This is CNN. A New York jury on Monday found actor Jonathan May just guilty of assault. Damn, Alex, you're just going to fart like that? Oh my God, God. We just don't like a fart. That's what I'm saying. Like, we're trying to talk about some serious stuff.

You're just going to fart? Bart? You're going to shoot already. A New York jury on Monday found actor Jonathan Major's guilty of assault and harassment of his former girlfriend during a domestic dispute. Majors are rising star who has appeared in Disney's Marvel franchises and Creed 3 was convicted on Monday of one count of reckless assault in the third degree and a non-criminal charge of harassment as a violation. Both of them were misdemeanors. He was acquitted on another assault charge and one count of aggravated harassment. So essentially he got charged with the video you see when you see her, when you see him, I guess, taking his phone and then taking her and putting her back in the car

and he's taking off running. That's the misdemeanor assault charge. Him protecting himself. Him protecting himself. Why isn't there more conversation around the two larger charges being, him being found not guilty on it? Because this is America and you expect that from an interracial relationship. Damn. Damn.

What type of question was that? damn. So you think this is just straight racial? Yeah. Of course. And not to mention it was right after Cree just dropped. He just got a major contract with Marvel. I feel like we see this time and time again with any of our large black stars. We do have to stop back in like, that's such a big deal, though. You know, even when I heard Jonathan on the phone and Jonathan was talking and he was like, he's doing great things for the culture. We can assert the call. He's doing great things for the culture and great things in the world. I am doing great things, not just for me,

but for my culture, and for the world. That is actually the position I'm in. That's real. I'm not going to think about it. I didn't ask for it. I've worked, and that's a situation. It's like, bro, it was Creed 3 in that, man.

Oh, yeah, yeah, you know, that's like, that's not changing the world, guys. Okay. And he actually loves it. I meant more so maybe not doing things for the culture. That's his right. I just meant he's doing good as a, When y'all say things like that, I'm going to tell you why it don't make sense to me, because

there's not these powers that be that care that he got a contract with Marvel. There's not these powers that be that care he did creed three. Now, is there always a racial component to it? Absolutely. We've been seeing that since the beginning of time. But my point with saying all that is there's poor black people who don't have, poor black men who don't have any of the things that Jonathan Majes have had who've had situations with white women, who've experienced worse fates.

Okay? You know, I mean, way, way, way worse fakes. So I don't like when people just chalk it up to entertainment. I think it's, I think it's race and I think it's status. I think it's both.

It could be status when you're looking at the DA Alvin Bragg. I've heard people say that. People say, you know, DA Alvin Bragg likes these kind of cases, you know? You know, I don't, I don't know what's to be true and what's not to be true.

But all I know is, nobody I was watching CNN the other day man and I saw them having a discussion about the Jonathan Majes case and nobody once said these are two misdemeanors nobody one now now one time did somebody say he was charged with two misdemeanors now one time did they say the the larger allegations of what the prosecution was was saying which was the twisting of the arm and punching in her head nobody said he was found not guilty on those everybody just runs with the headline a soap and harassment. There's no context to it, no nuance to it whatsoever, and he's dropped from Marvel now. I mean, that Marvel headline came out instantly. They were ready.

Instantly. They were ready. But my point is, do you think that if there was an actual conversation about the nuance of what happened, the nuance of what he actually was found guilty of, you don't think Marvel would have been like, you know what, I think we can, we can stand by that. Put them into some anger management, you know what I mean? Yeah. Marvel was trying to get him out of there anyway. Now, see, nobody's having that conversation either. But that's, I feel like Marvel was trying to get them out of there because they were so quick.

Because phase five sucks. Exactly. If Ant Man performed better and the shirt did a little bit better, yes. He would have been like, ah, it was a little nuanced here. I hate when these companies try to take these moral stands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Phase five sucks.

The king's shit ain't working. Marvel has already had conversations and put things out there and said hey man they were already thinking about moving away from that way before this shit happened because Ant Man didn't perform well and because the whole King thing was getting too convoluted with the

multiverse and all of this and that they were already thinking about moving away from it but now they didn't want to act like they're taking some type of moral stand they ain't take that kind of stand for Hawkeye Ooh Jeremy was it name Jeremy Renner was his name? Now mind you Jeremy Renner was just allegations that his wife made.

Well, the allegations that he put a gun in his mouth and threatened to kill himself or something like that and threatened to kill her and the baby. Those are just allegations, right? I just don't understand when people pick and choose, you know, when they want to stand next to people. Because most people get those kind of allegations that Jeremy Renner did in a divorce court. A company like Marvel and Disney is moving away. Yeah, she accused them of emotional, physical, and sexual abuse. Come on, man.

Come on, man. You know what I mean? I mean. But in this case, he was still found guilty. Even though he's found guilty of the lesser charges, he still put his hands on a woman and people would be like, there's no room for that. Put his hands on a woman in the context of snatching his phone away

and putting her back in the car and then taking off running. I mean, it's still. Away from her. Like they literally said, they literally said in the charges, it proves he didn't have the intent to harm her. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So then why is there?

charge in general. But I mean, I think... Because you're not supposed to put your hands off you. Like, somebody... That's the women sucking their teeth, by the way. I just want to know. All the men in the room did not suck our teeth. That was the women in the room.

Taylor and Nile was sucking their teeth. That was not us. I just want you to know that. Because technically somebody takes your property. You're supposed to go to the cops. Hey, this person took my property. Nobody does that. Somebody, listen, you know what's so crazy?

Me and my cousin was working out yesterday, slew to perm. And he asked me that, too. He was like, yo, so what do you do in the situation? if you're Jonathan Major. Like, what do you do in that situation? I'm like, man, let her keep the phone. Yes, that's what you should do.

You already want to break up with her anyway. It's over. You know what I'm saying? Like, let her keep the phone unless he's trying to protect somebody, which he may have been doing in that case right there. If the rumors are true and the rumors were it was the person we currently see him with all the time, making good, texting him, he didn't want to leave the phone with her because, you know, you never know.

She might take that and run with that information. And they might not have been ready to be revealed to the world just yet. But I mean... This is such a silly video. It is not a silly video. Taylor said that video with him running is not silly. That is exactly what you should do. I'm saying it's silly for her.

Like, why is she chasing after him? That is exactly what you should do if you're in that situation. Take off running. If a white woman hit you and you're a black man, run. I mean, run and scream for help. If any woman hit you, run. Run. Run!

What can you do? There's nothing you're going to be able to do in that situation. Because if she hits you, and let's just say you grab her hands. Like you just grab her, just to hold her to keep her from hitting you. Now I'm going to get a misdemeanor of soul charge. Well, she calls a plea.

She's definitely calling the place. Well, yeah, her, yeah. I'm just saying that like... I don't know, man. I'm just saying all that to say, broke down prophecies on audible right now, written by S.A. Cosby.

To your point about why is the narrative, why is media not having the conversation about how he had such heavy charges? Because then they would have to take accountability for all the things that they've been putting out. Well, it's not, see, here's the thing, it's never media. Well, it is sometimes, but it's, it's social media. It's the conversation around media. I think it's also, that was the CNN headline. The CNN headline is the one. You're right.

I mean, because technically, technically he did get charged, you know, with, with, assault and harassment, but there's levels to it. It was two misdemeanors, is all I'm saying. One is a non, it's a non-criminal charge. I don't even understand that. But where's like non-criminal charge? Don't get them the clits and the likes that they need, so why

would they use that? But that is whack, man. You're playing with people's reputations. You're playing with people's livelihood. You know what I mean? Like, that's, like, that's just whack. Like, why can't we have nuanced conversation? Like, why do we always got to just run with the most salacious headline just for clits and shit?

and giggles because we know motherfuckers don't read. We know motherfuckers don't ever get to the nuance of the situation ever. Never. It's just whatever the headline is and now you stuck with that. Marvel saw that headline. They're like, man, drop the press release. Drop it. Put it out.

Even though Marvel, y'all know good and damn well. Y'all thought the whole King dynasty was whack anyway and y'all was looking for a reason to prune that shit from your timeline. Okay? Let's not act like y'all took some moral high ground because there's a lot of, you know, sketchy things that have happened with people in the Marvel universe that, you know, y'all ain't in no rush

to drop people over. And it ain't just Hawkeye. And some others is another superhero. I'm gonna keep that one quiet, though. It's out there. You can Google it. The crazy part about this is that he came home and saw her passed out.

And called 911. So had he not called the cops, no one would have known about this. New York City now on any police by medical? Hey, Hawaii. It's medical. No, for... What happened exactly?

Do you know? No, I don't know. She's unconscious. She's naked from the bottom down. She has sweatshound. She's my ex-partner. We broke up. I came back.

She sent me text messages insinuating as much. And the patient's breathing? breathing? Oh, yes, it's true. Yes, that's true. No. No. I think I saw a cut behind her ear. Okay. Yeah. You called 911. You report it and you end up in jail?

Yeah, that's great. Come on, man. Come on, man. I mean, I don't know what's what, I don't know what's true or what's not true. I'm just saying that this is, there's a lot of nuance in this situation. And there's usually a lot of nuance in all these situations, but we never explored because we just live in a world where people have to pick aside. It's like, I got to be right, I got to be left. I got to be, you know, over here. I got to be over there.

Like nobody can ever discuss everything that's in the middle of it. And I think that's why these companies like Marvel, you know, jump to do stuff like this because automatically he's painted as a woman beater. Now, you hear the phone call, right? I saw them taking that into consideration as well. Does the phone call, does that mean he's violent or arrogant? I hear a lot of arrogance. People also don't like arrogance, though.

Oh. Like, it doesn't help. No, at all. Like, I don't want to hear you telling a white woman that she need to be more like Coretta Scott King and Michelle Obama. And I don't want to hear you tell me that, you know, what you're doing is affecting culture and the world. Like, you did Creed 3 and that man.

You know what I? Let him feel great. No. Wait, can I tell you to him? No. I think he's saying that, though, because, like, black women looked at him like, oh, like, just another black man to look that's handsome and everything else. Like, I think that's what he's taking it.

As handsome as I am, do I act like that? Yes. Yes. As handsome as I am, do you hear me out here staying and I'm changing the world? Yes. Exactly. Like, what is talking about? I'm going to disregard the first part and just answer your question.

When do I say stuff like this? And then secondly, I think in regards to him changing the world, I think just being a successful black man is a statement in itself. It's like being a well-versed, educated black woman is a statement in itself. So to be fair, like, he can do that. There are way less successful black men than there are unsuccessful. Yeah. So he could-

Depends what you call success. I think that we're looking at it from an entertainment perspective. I'm just saying in general, the nigger got a, a paying job that does well. So do black doctors. Okay. And I'm not saying they don't... I'm not saying they don't...

I'm just saying that... He's a celebrity. America worship celebrity. We put celebrity on a pedestal. We act like celebrities do such amazing things. I tell you all the time, this shit is just... It's just radio.

It's just TV. It's just books. Like, I worked that Taco Bell and sold crack. You know what I'm saying? I work at a factory. I work at a flower garden. Like, those are the people. people that are actually making the world go around.

What I think is that work at Taco Bell and Cell Crack are making the world go around? That's what we... Way more important than anything. What are you talking about? Yeah, they're just killing our community. Fast food workers. They're killing our community with the food and the cracks. They don't own the fast food companies.

They just work there to make a living. But do you eat fast food? Not anymore. But do you eat fast food? But your doctor don't say it. But when you did... You want to know why he told me not to eat that? Because it's fucking killing me.

Sure, but when you worked that, when you did eat it, when you walked into those restaurants, you were happy when somebody. No, they gave me an attitude. They got my fucking order wrong. I had to come back in. They forgot to give me the sauce. It was a headache. Because they knew you shouldn't have eaten that shit. Never.

What? Because of fast. First of all, fast food workers are essential. Do not hate on those fast food workers. Regardless of what you may think of the fast food, y'all wake up in the morning and y'all go to these establishments. And if it wasn't for them, you wouldn't get what the fuck you need. I make oatmeal. Well, it's true.

But there's a lot of people that go to these fast food establishments. That's why they make multi-billion dollars. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that's crazy. You're crazy. It's motherfuckers that can't get through their day right now without a hit.

That's not good. Give for yourself. You're not about. Keep for yourself. Y'all are crazy. If you didn't have crack, you know how much things you wouldn't have? So wait, wait, wait, wait.

Some of the greatest content of all time was centered around. crack. Every great drug movie you love, this music you love. And what do I always call the fly females in the hood who had all a fly gear and stuff? And I always say

I'm tired of seeing that shit. I've seen five fucking shows. I feel like this year alone. I'm like, okay, I get it. I know why you watch them. I don't want to see it no more. Name them. Nam them. What you watch? What you watch? VMS. Rasing Canaan. Power. Snowfall. That's right. What's the

Harlow one? The one. The one Forrest Whitaker. Godfather of Harlem? Godfather, what else? That's five, isn't it? Five. But that's what you were choosing the wife.

I did. You enjoyed them. You know why you got those shows? Cracked! Cracked! Cracked! That doesn't make the world go around. That actually didn't help our community at all.

It helped some. You're right. And then they ended up in jail and then their family's got this man to. Now they're coming out. And now we're glorifying. It's not glorifying. You're just telling the story. Nobody ever said.

Nobody ever said Italians was glorifying the mob. Oh, my God. Nobody ever said that. They definitely were. They weren't. They were just telling the story. Everybody knows film and music

glorifies the things that you're talking about. I don't know if it's, I don't know if glorification is the word. I think sometimes you'll end up better in jail, so it's not really cool. That's right. The only time where it's not more. Cautionary tales.

The only time, it's not really cautionary because they're not telling you to not do this. It's actually encouraging niggas like, damn, he could do that. They're not watching the whole movie. You turn in the movie before it ends. I mean, the only show that you watching was like, damn, this didn't end well with snowfall.

That's not true. But BMF is based off a true story. So it's a big meet. Big Meets has been in jail for the longest. We're not seeing that in the show. You about to? Right now. You're not, right now.

You're going to get to it eventually. By the way, there's no, there's no story you read that, you know, these people didn't end up in jail a day. Like Godfather of Harlem is based off real people. Who's it based off, Nikki Barnes, right? No. Bumpy Johnson? Bumpy Johnson?

Google is your friend. When you watch these shows, you can Google to see how this stuff is going in. You think niggas is Google. You just said niggas don't read. Now you want us. Oh, niggas don't read, but niggas are Google. Niggas won't pick up any of these. But these niggas are Google, okay?

A nigger will Google and y'all will watch a YouTube video. There's plenty of YouTube videos about Bumpy Johnson and all these drug dealers and how their life ends. All I'm simply saying is don't front on crack. Yes, it ruined communities. But it also gave you some great. and you just name five shows that you love because of crack. Yes, they're great shows, but it was just like, damn, I need to, I need to see something else.

Maybe an Ant Man, you know. Well, maybe a- Plenty of movies, though, you can watch. Yeah, you are choosing that. Exactly. I'm really choosing. So you're saying, Taco Bell workers and crack. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is everybody plays a, part. And I think sometimes because we worship celebrity the way we do in America and we're so obsessed with celebrity, we put celebrities on a pedestal that they may or may not deserve to be on. You know what I mean? Like there's plenty of actors and actresses in Hollywood who are doing very well and I've never seen any of their movies. You understand what I'm saying? But you're going to interact with one of these essential workers every day of your life. You know what I mean? Like literally. I can't front on the fast food workers like that If you ask me, I think they're more important

than a lot of these actors and actors. I mean, I don't know. To me, regardless of you're a fast food worker or you're an entertainer, it's just about good character. So if you're doing a bad job at your service, I'm not fucking giving you a great tip. And also, if you're an asshole entertainer,

I'm not supporting your show. But you've interacted with more fast food workers than you ever have entertainers, even in your line of work. Just make sure you're a good person and do good shit, and then you get the support. I agree with you. I'm just, I don't even know how we got on this conversation, but.

Me either. I thought we was talking about. Crack. But the thing I, the moral of the story is with the Jonathan made the situation. I just wish people, you know, dealt with more nuance. And I wish people had, you know, more of the, the, the, the, the, the detailed conversation about what he actually was charged with. And, you know, just going back to what I was saying earlier. And even though this was presented in a court of law, so it makes sense. People take these phone calls and, you know.

these videos and they piece all of these things together to create their own narrative. So most of the time, you guilty before proven innocent in the court of law. Like I literally, I was having a conversation with somebody the other day and they was like, man,

Jonathan Major should have did an interview. No, he shouldn't have. Jonathan Major should have testified in court, which he didn't do. But the person was like, no, he should have sat down and did a one-on-one interview with somebody. For what? for the court of public opinion?

This might be one of those cases where the court of public opinion might work in his benefit because that video of him running away, everybody's looking at that like, yo, he wasn't doing anything. Like he's running away to save himself. So this might be the case where he's right.

Alex is absolutely right. And that goes back to my point. Marvel could have stuck around if they wanted to. Oh, yeah. Marvel didn't want to. Marvel wanted to prune Kang from their fucking timeline

because they do that that King Dynasty shit was not working. The Ant Man shit didn't turn out too well. They probably was looking at what happened with Flash and Ezra Miller and Ezra had way wild the charges than Jonathan. Several of them. And D.C. still stuck by Ezra and

put that movie out. And it didn't do well. And they're probably looking at what just happened with the Marvels, you know, and the lowest grossing movie of all time in Marvel history. And so they was like, you know what? Let's move away from this now. Let's cut our losses. Let's try to reset this. Do you feel like, because I feel like, John

Major is a really good actor. And I feel like the Creed 2 or 3 would have helped, like help push for his next movie. No, I think he had way better shit coming out to that. I think that magazine Dreams movie that Disney bought, they was talking about him winning the Oscar for that shit. I haven't seen it, but everybody who saw that film festivals and stuff says it's fantastic.

He plays like a bodybuilder who has like anger management issues, you know, and I think because of steroid use. So, I mean, it just makes you want. wonder how much how much art is imitating life. You know what I mean? And then that's the other thing, man, when it comes to these situations,

it's like we crucify these people, but nobody ever talks about what the solution is. The solution can't just be don't date white women. You know what I'm saying? Like, that can't just be the solution. The solution is... No, I'm not saying I can't be just a solution.

But that is a piece of advice. My brother, you know, I'm concerned. But it's just triggering because of my experience. In America, hell, three white men cat called me the other day, and I was terrified. Like, I ain't never been scared of a nigger trying to talk to me. That wasn't a nigger. See, stop blaming us for shit that the white man do.

What? You said three white men tried to hollets you. She said she'd never been scared. Oh, you're separating me. I said I was terrified when they tried to talk. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you know why?

Because earlier, I watched you call a non- Negro, a nigger. No, no, no. I had said niggas, but I was referring to people. I wasn't referring to black. That's what I'm saying. I thought you was calling those three white men niggers again just. No, no, no, no, no. But long story short, I was just saying I was terrified.

I ignored, like, not that I had a crazy experience with white men, but just because of the climate in the country, I was scared. Sure. But that's why I feel like that for black men as well. Like, I'd be concerned. Sure. You know, I'm all for black love. You know what I mean?

I'll ride with Dr. Umar on that point all day, every day, okay? Let me ask you a question, Dr. Umar. Are you totally against interracial relationships? I am totally against it, and I want to make sure you understand why. It's not because, cut it out, Envy. Cut it out, Envy. Don't do that, Envi. I'm going to be having a serious conversation.

We have a name for it. The snow bunny crisis. Okay. I am against the snow bunny crisis. Salute to Dr. Umar. I don't have a problem with interracial relationships, but I like, seeing black people with black people. Y'all know where I stand. All I'm simply saying is that can't be the only lesson that is learned from this situation. Don't date white women.

But I mean, if you're just trying to say, like, we need to have more nuanced conversations. We could pull that from any fucking headlines. And people need to deal with their anger issues. One thing Jonathan said in that call that gets lost is he said, look, I have a temper. Or something to that effect. I'm paraphrasing. But he was like, I got a temper. We can play the He was like, you know, aside from my temper, I'm a great man. My temper, my shit, my travel, blah, all that says, right? And I'm not saying, I'm a great man, a great man. I am doing great things, not just for me, but for my culture, it's a world.

You know, even though he just did Ant Man and Creed, okay, but still. Maybe there's something else. Lovecraft Country. Either way, not yet. No, Lovecraft Country was fire. It was fire. But it ain't changing the world, guys. They should bring that.

Come on, stop. But if he's performing at the top tier of his industry, then that means he's doing great. Why are you being a hater? Representation matters. Representation does matter, but there's no actor in the world who's ever done a performance that's so great and has changed the world. Chad, uh, Chadwick Bowman. God bless Chad with Bowlesman, rest in peace. Black Panther didn't change the world.

I don't think y'all, y'all generation isn't. When you say change the world of what, like, does our mindsets and stuff? Question. A mindset about white Chris, can you get him some examples of people who change the actual world? I want to know. Like Malcolm X. No, no, no.

I'm talking about you're talking about actors. That's what I'm saying. We're arguing about how. Albert Einstein changed the world. No, I'm thinking you're saying. I think Martin Luther King Jr. changed the world. No, you're right. I'm thinking I'm talking about movies-wise.

That's what I was talking about. You're talking about entertainment. Yeah. But that's my point. What entertainer has changed the world through a role? The world? Yes. Does representation matter?

Hold, hold, hold. I got one. Okay. Maybe not an actor, but an artist. Michael Jackson. Entertainer changed the world. Did Michael? And unified.

What? Yes. Yes. Yeah, how? Like, how? He combined sound. He had rock. The thriller project, we were just talking about.

He had actual rock art. I'm talking about it. changing society. He unified people through music, even in his music video. He turned into a white man. Because he had a fucking disease. You're right. But in the thriller music video, he literally has dancers, theater people, crips, gorillas.

By the way, I love Michael Jackson to death, but if Michael Jackson would have came out with, it don't matter if you black and white in this area, y'all would have crucified him. Y'all would have called him an Uncle Tom, y'all would have called him a coon. Y'all would have called him All Lives Matter Michael Jackson. I don't have a problem with white people. I just, I think. Because it does matter if you're black or white. It does matter, but,

God, you're missing the point of the record. Okay, all right, no. Okay, Taylor just put up, this is a good one. Often referred to as the King of Pop, his achievements helped to complete the desegregation of popular music in the United States and introduced an era of multiculturalism and integration that 50 generations of artists follow.

What do you think, Chris? What do you think, Chris? No, he literally got it. Black music being a Hussein is about to talk. You're a part of the problem. It doesn't matter if you're black or white. He's Jewish.

White. Speak, Mr. Jew. Chris, speak, Chris. Tell him, Chris. It's okay. I mean, he helped desegregate MTV, which I guess is not an insignificant thing. But I think you can make the case

that rap changed the world. Rock and roll changed the world. That's three years later, though. Yeah, don't you got to, You got to kind of give Michael that first. Because Michael, wasn't Michael the first black person that was played on MTV? It was either him or the Rocks box video.

I think it was Run DMC, maybe. No, it's Michael. It's Michael Jackson and then it's Run DMC. Thriller was like 82. Run DMC wasn't until like 86? Yeah. It's Mike. I'm perfect.

I just watch a documentary on it. Chris, you're saying, you want to say what I'm saying. You don't feel like entertainment is that important? No, I think entertainment's really important. I just don't know if I would use. I think the, NBA has changed the world if you're talking about race relations, right? I think like race relations.

Muhammad Ali. Yeah. Mohamed Ali, that's a good word. To a degree. Yeah. Muhammad Ali definitely. I mean, if you're saying like Michael Jackson changed the world, my point is it sounds like what you're saying is like he changed how people perceive African American performers,

right? Did they know? Yes. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I mean, what is like, he had fucking, he had fans of all colors passing out to go see him. Sure. But what legislation was changed because of it?

No legislation, but it made us. It did not dismantle white supremacist. I think it made us and our art more accepting. They loved, they loved one of us. But that's the thing, though. They love our art, but don't love us. Hey, I think we gotta start somewhere. It's been, that was the 80.

That was 80, too. He was like an outlier, though. You asked me for an example. I gave more. I would argue public enemy more than Michael Jackson in a way. Public enemy? I don't think they're global enough. They were really global.

Mike has known every. They made, I mean, their impact on white people thinking about politics was really significant. See, he's- Oh, oh, I got one. I got one. I'm going to read this right now. It says Michael Jackson broke racial barriers and became a global icon, transcending cultural boundaries, the moonwalk, a dance movie popularized, became a global sensation to solidify this status of the pop coach phenomenon.

All of that is true for Michael Jackson. To the point. where somebody like, remember, you got entertainers throughout the years, whether it was Donald Glover or OJ Simpson, they always felt like you could get to a place where you're so famous, you're not black anymore. They always said that. That's what I always said.

I'm not black, I'm OJ. So for Michael, yeah, Michael might have got looked at through the lens of, that's Michael Jackson. He ain't black, he ain't white, that's Michael. But what about the rest of us? Changing your world, don't change the world. That's what I mean by outlier. I was at NWA.

impacted society. NWA. Uncle Luke. No. No. Bob Marley. Bob Marley. His whole thing was politics.

Pull up Bob Marley. He's a great example. Yeah, Bob Marley's a great example. Harry Belafonte. For that error, yeah. But you know why, though? Because Harry Belafonte was new. But he was using his celebrity

to fuel social social justice movement. Harry Belafonte was funding Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. And what he was doing. Fucking Dale. You say Dave, me say Dave, me say Dale. That was just a great song that we love.

That don't change the world. There's a lot of great music that we love. But it... I mean, something... Music can change the world. Don't get me wrong. There are some songs, I think, have changed the world. Like, We Are the World was a very impactful record.

You know what I mean? To me. What's another song? I think... Wouldn't you say? I don't know. Listen, man. I mean, but there's a lot of people who are doing things but aren't like doing social justice.

But read that about Bob Molley. What is the first thing say? I can't read a song. I'm a lesson. Jesus Christ, you are really. You're 27. I'm old at heart. You're 27 and got a 70-year-old diet.

Your doctor said you got to start. Your doctor said you can only eat fucking soft food and you can't see. What's the point of being 27? First of all. Just read the goddamn paragraph. It says apart from his activism. That's the first thing. Apart from his activism, Marley was also an unofficial ambassador for Jamaica as the island's most famous and impactful export.

Marley introduced to the world not only Jamaican music, but also Rastafarianism rooted in ideas of personal and spiritual freedom, peace, love, and cultural unity. That's not entertainment. Now, he got famous because of his entertainment and he would put those things in his music. but him, the person and the other things he was doing is what changed the world. He was just using music as like, I guess the vehicle, the vehicle to it.

That's true. I guess people wouldn't, people wouldn't love him if it wasn't for the music. I wouldn't know about the political climate in Jamaica's wasn't for Bob Marley. So that's what I would say to a person like Jonathan Mayge. I would say,

if you're using your celebrity to do this kind of stuff, The way Harry Belafonte did, the way even an Arefa Franklin did, then you're helping to change the world. He was getting there. He was dressing like a civil rights activist. He definitely was dressing like a civil rights. No, that's a part of being an actor, though.

You got to. Oh, no, no, no. He was priming us. Well, maybe this time. I've never seen a picture of Jonathan Majors that I didn't think should have been in black and white. What about that picture? Every single picture I've ever seen in him look like it should be in black and white. On Ebony Mag with the flowers.

People were really hated it, but I liked it. Yeah. that should have been black and white? No. Anytime he puts on a suit and shoes, he should have been in black and white. But, hey, man, I don't know what's going to happen

with Jonathan Majes. You know, I just know that we live in a very, very, very unforgiving world. And, you know, we never have the other conversations we should be having. We should be talking about the trauma that the woman went through, the trauma that Jonathan Majors is going through.

We should be talking. we should be having those conversations. How do we prevent things like this from happening in the future? Once again, it can't just be, hey, black men, don't date white women, you know? Even though I'm fine if y'all choose not to. I'm just simply saying that that can't be the resolution from this. Yeah.

Because what happens to the next person that's in this situation? You know what I mean? Like there's got to be some type of, something has to come from this. Well, how are you expecting conversations to be had if we are all kind of brainwashed daily? where are the places for people to have these conversations not social media that's my point like we don't we're not even having

nuanced conversations anymore everything is just black or white it either is or it ain't and I'm like that's not the way the world works y'all like you've got to have nuanced conversations about things man there's a lot more details that go into things like even when I was watching CNN another day you know I think I was watching I forgot who I was watching but the person was was like, you know, and Jonathan has been accused of things before.

And then right after she said that she mentioned Diddy. And I'm like, whoa. Like, you can't just say that. You got to tell me what else he was accused of, right? Because the things I've heard of him being accused of is just being an asshole, being having tantrums on set and being angry and mean and stuff like that. But you can't say he's been accused of things before. and then reference Diddy

with everything that Diddy's going through right now. Right. Like, you got to be specific about these things. And I just think, man, that's very dangerous. I'm watching CNN. And to your point, as I think you said it earlier, everybody ain't going to do no research.

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They've been doing really, really well. My skill of baby one is doing phenomenal, so check it out. I think it's pretty funny. Yeah, man. That's Big Nila. I just want to thank everybody, man. It's been a great year. You know, a lot of content we put out this year, you know, not just from, you know,

Breakfast Club. You see, you know, I got my book in print, Black Privilege Publishing with Simon and Houston. We put out Invisible Generals by my man Doug Melville. That is available in bookstores right now. Also on Audible, we put out Unleashed for Love this year. Salute to my good sister, Alicia Renee, salute to Sarita Wesley. Audio scripted sitcom, you know, thank you to everybody who would be leaving comments and reviews on Audible about that. Broke down profits. This is a crime thriller, you know, written by my man, S.A. You know, starring Brian Tyree Henry and Josh Polanco, Jonathan Majes. I think Donnell Rawlins is on this as well.

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What is it? Can I say one thing? Yes, Chris. Go ahead. People should really check out the S.A. Cosby. He's really one of the best writers out there right now. I think he's a guy who's really, I mean, he's already broke, right? Like, he's not a secret, but I think people are going to really have him.

like on a Walter Mosley level in a year or two. Stephen King said that S.A. Codby, one of his favorite writers. And a very cool guy. Very cool guy for Virginia. New York Times. New York Times said S.A. Cosby is the author of the year. Like every single project he's done has already gotten picked up for a TV or film. You know, he did a great book called Razor Blade Tiz.

The other one was all. Backtop. What's the one I just read? Hold on. Oh, let me pull up. Let me let's, let's love on SACCodby real quick. What was the other one? was something with something

Blacktop Wasteland I just finished last week I really enjoyed that Black Top Wasteland It's the other one too The Cinners book All the Cinners bleed Yeah so he's put out

Razor Blade Tiz Black Top Wasteland All the Cinners bleed All his books have already gotten picked up for films and TV shows Paramount Plus is actually doing Razor Blade Tiz and you know

Broke down profits by S.A. Cosby We've already salute in Cosby, man. But yeah, just check out everything we're doing on Audible. We put out some really great work on Audible. This is different. This is our audio documentary finding, Tamika is. Audio documentary

Summer of 85 is. Audio scripted series sitcom Unleashed for Love is. Audio film series broke down prophecies, man. So, you know, salute. What is this? Why is it in a box like this? That's the CD version, because I couldn't find a book. That's the CD version

of, you know, shook one. But no, it's this beautiful thing. To be a New York times bestselling author man and now to have my own imprint, you know, Black Privilege Publishing and to be able to help other people get their product out. That's an amazing thing. Me and Chris are working on my third book as we speak right now. You guys are changing the world. Yes.

Mm-hmm. In a real way. Mm-hmm. You wrote a book about anxiety. It's different. That's what I'm saying books are different. I'm not saying music can't, I'm not saying entertainment and music can't change the world. I'm just saying like Creed 3 and Ant Man didn't.

That's all I'm saying. saying. I'm not, I'm not, I'm just saying Creed 3 and 8 man did. That's all. Not saying that Jonathan wouldn't have ultimately did a role that, you know, impacted people in that way, but it's not about what you do in entertainment. It's about what you do with that celebrity. Yeah, it's about what you do with that reach. That's all I'm saying. I haven't seen him, you know, get to get to that point yet, but he didn't even really get the opportunity to. But that's what I tell everybody, if you got a platform, if you got reach, use it to actually do something that fucking matters.

That's all I'm saying. Yo, play my man Drake, yo. Drake gonna fuck around and be my mood all 2020. I'm not going to front, I might even get me some little specs to wear at the end of my nose, yo. Please don't. Play Drizzy one.

Play Drake one time. Play Aubrey Graham. It looks like to the bigger alive. To the rest of you. The non-believers, the underachievers, the tweet and deleters. You guys made me sick to my stomachs, fam. Me too.

If you guys want to look at my eyes, you guys want to do something? That's right. That's what I thought. They don't want to do. God, that's what I thought. The non-believer's underachievs, tweeting the least. I don't know who's what he talks about, but I know who I'm talking about when I say that type of shit.

Okay? Drake will fucking around to be my mood for the rest of them. They say he's talking about Metro Booman. What Metro do? I don't know, but Metro Booman. Oh, put out a tweet about how his... Go ahead. Something about his album got overlooked and Drake Scott praised.

I don't know anything about that. Is it Metro nominated for a grander? Grammy? Did I make this up? Am I sure? Aren't Metro and Drake nominated for a Grammy? I don't know what it was. Pull that up real quick before I go back to Drake. It ain't even about Drake. It's about what Drake said. Because I really, I, he's nominated for a Grammy, right?

Metro. Yeah, for rap. I think he's nominated in the rap album of the year category, too. I think. I think, go to Graham, go to rap album of the year for the Grammys. Taylor Gang. You got to tape it in. Yeah, type in rap album of the year, 2003 Grammys. Because I'm really just, I want to prove my, I'm really just pulling this up to say one thing. Okay.

On top of best rap album nominated. Yeah, Metro Boomer. So Metro Boomer is nominated for a rap album of the year. Dracon 21 are nominated for rap album of the year. I hope they're not beefing over this. Because neither one of them should win. Killer Mike should win his hands down. Killer Mike should win rap album of the year.

Michael, hands down, period. But I just like what Drake said, man, because they make me sick to my goddamn stomach, too. Metro Bowman Criticized Award shows at large as just politics, citing her loss victories over his album. Yeah, he's saying Drake won't have the politics. See, I don't like that. I don't like that.

You know what I don't like that? Deleting tweets are pointless. Yeah. It's actually the most pointless thing in the world, to delete a tweet. You said it. It's out there. People are going to grab it.

They're going to repost it. They're going to retweet it. I don't like the backtracking. If that's how you feel, stand on it. Elliot Wilson. That's why I don't like Elliot Wilson always apologizing to people after he says some shit.

Even if I disagree with what he says, which majority of the time I do, I don't agree with him constantly apologizing. I mean... Because if you're that person that puts things out there and want smoke, and then apologizes every time. Why should we believe you in the first place?

Well, I think Elliot is a nice person. So I think that once confronted, he feels guilty about what he said. Well, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Listen to juicy J. Listen to juicy J.

It's okay to shut the fuck up. Who's telling people they got to talk? But also, I think he feels away because the climate has changed. and he feels like he's not a part of the race anymore. Well, that's silly for him to think that. He's Elliot Wilson. It is silly for him to think that.

Elliot Wilson has been around a long time. You know, he was the editor-chief of Double XL magazine. He launched a fantastic platform with my man B. Dot Car, Rapper. You know, when everybody was running to dot coms back of the day, Rap Radar was definitely one of the ones. You know, he evolved, he turned that into a great podcast with Rapp Radar. Like, there's no reason for Elliot Wilson to feel insecure. about his position and culture.

But guess what? I'm not using that. I'm not letting him use that as an excuse. You know, some shit you should feel bad for, as you just said, Naila. We've all done it. We've all said things, but we felt bad.

But you can't feel bad for every fucking thing. Every single time he's criticized somebody this shit, he's ended up apologizing. Well, and I'm not saying nothing to Elliot that I haven't told Elliot. Me and Elliot had this conversation off air. I think the Nikki should he definitely to apologize for.

No, because he's not. didn't diss Nikki. He should apologize to Kai. And if you felt like that about Kai, stand on. But no, he did. The apology technically felt like it was for him. It felt more to Kai. You're right. Let me take a step back. You shouldn't have me criticized the Kai in the first place. I don't know Kai said not from a can of paint, never met the young man, but I salute that young man for everything that he's built. You know why? Because Kai said not is everything

we say we want hip hop to be. We say we get tired of motherfuck because talking shit about other artists all the time, beefing with each other. We talk about how we can't stand and see people just going in on rants. God bless you. We hate to see people going in on rants all the time. Like everything that we say is negative within the culture.

Kai ain't doing none of that. Kai is fucking soul train. Kai is soul train. His streams are always positive. Streams are positive. You go watch Kai's tonight. You see him dancing, having a good time, listening to music.

What could you stay negative about that? That's why it's just pure hate. And I don't like hate. I like constructive criticism, you know. I like people who, you know, can look at something and give a nice objective take on it. What Elliot did to Kai said not pure hate. There's nobody like, there's nobody that's of Elliot Wilson's stature who should look at Kai and feel threatened in any way, shape, or form. But what if he's looking for something, like he wanted to interview with Nicky and I.

Like he wanted to. So what? I'm saying he's coming from that perspective. But I feel like all the older podcast niggas be doing that shit. All them niggas be inciting beefs. And, you know, one person goes sit with this platform so then they go shit on the person who just interview with them just so they can get a headline and talk. Elliot's not the only person.

I don't think it's just podcasts. I think it's entertainers and creator. Yeah. Everybody's doing that. And then sometimes when they feel a way they lash out, like Drake lashed out against you when you say something negative about it. What's the last shot? Sure, but that's not the same.

What Elliot did to Kai is not that. Yeah, but you weren't hated on him. You were giving constructive criticism. I'm always hating on Drake. I mean. What's wrong with y'all? I told you all this. I'm always hating on Drake.

What are we talking about? freaking the contract they have. Because I do give constructive criticism, but majority of my criticism of Drake, whether you agree with it or not throughout the years, it's been hate. This is why I'll listen to you. And I don't, by the way,

by the way, I'm not even, I don't have a reason to hate drink. I just, it's just, you know, it's from childhood. So you part of the problem. No. Historically, light skin men have always got teeth. You're your own alien. Dark skin men have always teased light skin men.

And vice versa. No. So you. You're bringing your trauma on us. Nino Brown stabbed motherfucking. Nino Brown, what the fuck? Nino Brown stabbed the pretty nigga

from the bank in the hand. It wasn't the other way around. Nino! I never liked you anyway. Pretty motherfuckerucker. Okay. All right. No, I'm just fucking with y'all.

I know you got. I don't know if I am or not. But I know I'm serious about what I'm saying about Elliot. What Elliot did is pure hate on Kaj Sinat. And I did not. It's not just... Elliot, all these niggas be hating for no reason. Well, I'm using, this is the, you're right,

but this is the most recent example. And the reason I think this is so egregious is because Kai is 22 years old. Not the baby. Kai is the leader of the new school when it comes to hip-hop. Period. We don't got to call it journalism, but he's a hip-hop personality.

But why is what he doing, not journalism? I saw him sitting with Dickey, and I saw Nikki telling the story to him, and Nikki says she ain't ever told no way. else about the record with Drake where she said that she broke down how the record was supposed to be on Drake's album, but then she

decided to use it for hers and yada, yada, yada, yada. Is that not journalism? It is. How is that not journalism? I don't know that's journalism. So what is journalism then? What is journalism? I think about a conversation that's asking questions and getting into it. I think it's like research. Like she's volunteering that information

versus just... But you shouldn't put it in a box. It's like if you do a conduct an interview, you, hey, if you dance and having fun while doing it, but if you're still finding out information about the person that they've never said any place else, that's still an interview. You're still finding that.

Is journalism just the documentation of something, or is it actually, like, doing research and then? Probably a combination of both. Yeah. Okay, well, let's just say, if you don't want to call Kai a journalist, he's a hip-hop personality. And what I would tell that young man

is stay away from all the suck of shit. You know what I mean? Don't let none of these motherfuckers embrace you because a lot of these people is just going to be trying to, you know, suck off your energy and ride your wave because if that young man

stays on the path he's on, he got $100 million on his schedule in record time. He's 22 years old. A lot of these people that are in this game right now, they're 35, I'm, oh gee, I'm 45 years old, but I'm already in the Radio Hall of Fame.

I'm already home, y'all. You know what I'm saying? But for the rest of y'all, the rest of y'all that's still, you know, out here figuring it out working, you're 34, 35 years old. In four or five years, you're going to be 40. Kai's only going to be 26. So be very careful about the things you're saying about the so-called OGs now. Because when you're 40 and Kai's only 26, you're going to look ancient as fuck. Like ancient, like beyond ancient. So you just got to be very, very careful, man. I like what Kai's

is doing, I don't see how anybody can speak negatively to Kai Sinat in any way, shape, or form. He's literally soul trained. Motherfuckers is on there dancing, not caring about how goofy they look. His mom is in there dancing with him. His sister, they're all having a good time. Can you imagine an esteemed, who's an esteemed journalist? Like, imagine Dan Rather hating on Don Cornelius. If you just want to keep it black, who was a great black person

from that time, the Soul Train time, Chris. Was it Petey Green? Petey Green was great. The guy... Greatest radio personality of all time? The guy in New York, who I'm blanking on, who...

Who's the guy? Frankie Crocker. Frankie Crocker. Boom. But to the journalism point, you know, the thing with journalism is not about research. It's about also adhering to ethics, essentially. Right? There has to be accountability.

there has to be impartiality. You can't take money from sources. You have to double check all your sources. If one person tells you one thing, you have to collaborate that with two or three other sources. I mean, that's really the part of journalism that's missing. Because journalism are writers. Essentially. Like, Elliot is really the OG journalist because he was an editor-in-chief of Double XL magazine.

We're not really journalists. I used to write for Ozone back in the day, but I'm not a journalist per se. Like, journalists write for newspapers, magazines, things of that day. I guess it's changed in 2003 or going into 24. I would just say hip-hop personality. That's what I would say. I would say media personality. I don't think there is really any hip-hop journalism anymore, to be honest.

I mean, you know, I don't think what Elliot does on rap radar is journalism, right? I think maybe like to. Well, go back to the definition of journalism, Taylor. Because Chris is absolutely right. What are you saying about journalism? What are they saying the definition is? She just had it up, but she hates me, so she moves it as soon as I wanted to go read. She does this on purpose.

She does this on purpose. She does shit like this on purpose. Journalism. The activity, our profession of writing for newspapers, magazines, our news websites, are preparing news to be broadcast. Oh, yeah. Technically. Yeah, who's doing it?

I don't want to journal. Like, there are no hip-hop journalists. Like, what are we talking about? I do think they have to update the definition, though, because now that people are moving away from newspapers, magazines, and things in that nature. I do feel like what Jock does. Jock who?

Is that how you say his name? Young Jock? He used to work with, no, he used to work with Rob Markman. Oh, you're talking about Jinks. No, no, no, no. His name's Jock. But he does, like, he, like, reports facts. He does him, like, in these quick videos.

That's hip-hop journalism. Jeff Weiss is a journalist. Well, it said the journalists, our reporter, is responsible for researching and writing informational news articles and stories about real events using a fair and unbiased perspective. Actually, there's a lot of people who do that, and then they put it in a teleprompter, and then they put it in video, and then they upload it because people are not reading, like we've been talking about, people listen to things, people watch things. So there are journalism, or there is journalism, it's just done different.

But it says their duties include interviewing experts, gathering first-hound accounts, of events and organizing an outline into a cohesive, interesting story. So, I mean, you know, a lot of us personalities do aspects of journalism. If you're sitting down, I interview experts all the time in their respective fields, you know. We sit down with artists and we get firsthand accounts of events, you know. You also got to remember there was a system in place for decades, right, which was to be a journalist, you know, you wrote for your high school newspaper, and then you wrote for your college newspaper and then you went to journalism school and you were instructed in the rules and

the ethics and the codes of conduct of being a journalist. And then from there, you started working at a small newspaper. And then if you did well there, you would move up to a major city. And then 10 years in, you'd land at the New York Times, right? Like that was the path. That path is destroyed right now. Do you think they're the level of, oh, go ahead, ma'am? Oh, I was going to say, because when I was in college, I took a journalism class and one of the biggest things that we constantly learned is that, like, this is no longer going to exist because of all the fake news that we're getting. Fake news and access. I mean, the scenario I just described, yes, it made people adhere to, you know, certain ethics,

but there was a lot of gatekeeping. Everybody couldn't be a journalist, right? Like, a lot of people were shut out, and now you got a phone. You're a journalist. Is there a level of elitism that comes with that, though? Like, if you went to school, you were in a certain era. Not anymore. Now it's plout.

Plout is a new. Right. But no, in the day, sure, right? Like, maybe you couldn't afford to go to college. Maybe you weren't able to get into grad school. You know, maybe you couldn't afford the prices they were paying at these newspapers. So, yeah, there were only a select amount of people who got to, quote, tell these stories. Now, everybody can. And that's great. The problem is you could ask any of the so-called, this isn't just hip-hop, right? Like, you could ask anybody online who has a voice and influence and say, well, what are, you know, you have a responsibility now. What are those tenants of journalists? They don't, they have no idea. What I can tell you what? Journalists and a reporter is synonymous? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Because they call journalists reporters. That's what their journalist is. They say a journalist. Well, I think a reporter has even more duty to be independent, fair, and to work sources, right? And they're like on ground. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Listen, I don't know what you call them. All I know is Kaiser is not is that guy. And, man, you know, Elliot just showed a level of insecurity that I, I, I, I, I don't want any of our OGs to have. You can see it, man. There's so many of our OGs that wreak of insecurity. They're not comfortable with who they are. They're not comfortable with their place, you know, in the current landscape.

But that's because y'all keep looking at the landscape. And Niley, you said it earlier, running a race. Why are you running a race? And also, I say this is a marathon. Elliot has real skills to share with people, right? Yes. Like, I did a real investigative journalism piece for the source on a guy named John Forte who probably nobody knows about it anymore. Of course.

Come on. But he got arrested in a major cocaine distribution charge. Elliot was the editor-in-chief. I did real reporting. I was getting wiretaps. I was getting tapes. They asked me to testify in a federal cocaine trial. Like, it was real heavy-duty investigative reporting.

Elliot can do that. He knows about that. That's he built that magazine. He's just got to stick to what he knows. To that point, why compete? Why do you think you're competing with ties and not? Why compete? Yeah, no, I agree with you.

It's silly. But once the last time you've read an investigative piece like that? I read them all the time. And I'll read them all the time. Those are the things that are turning into IP. But you got, you got places like the New Yorker and variety, New Yorker variety or somebody else I'm missing. but you have these people who are opening up production companies

because these journalists and reporters have done these in-depth, Volter, that's what it is, have done these in-depth stories and they're turning them into documentaries. Y'all got to think biggest. Stop looking at the fucking nigger net and thinking, yo, man, I want to go viral. No, the stuff you're all doing, y'all can actually make real money off with IP. I think that's the message to Elliot is just stop looking at the nigginette

and think of your work more indefinitely. But I think he probably just feels unappreciated because like the shit that you're saying, It takes time. That takes time and effort. He's very hard. He's done it. But niggas don't care about that because like you said,

niggas don't read. No, no, no, no, no. He's very good at it. A lot of these, there's a certain sector of people who don't read. We can't generalize everybody. What Elliot does is very valuable. And if Elliott did more of that, like I would love to see it. I think he don't get the praise for that type of work.

People who are doing that work don't get the praise. By who? Who? Who? When we say don't get the phrase? Who's the last... We couldn't even name a fucking current journal. Megan Cooniff, I believe her name is, who covered... Name a black journalist. She's a reporter, though. All right, but people gave her praise.

People followed her coverage. Name a black journalist that people are. Let me tell you something. To go back to the point we just talked about, these people who are doing this real investigative journalism, you know, like something like a finding Tamika like Erica, like Erica Alexander did and Color Farm Media did for Audible, those are the people that are getting great deals

to turn that content into TV, film. Like, somebody is going to, it's probably, you know what it's going, it's probably going to end up being Vlad. Salute to my guy, Glad, y'all can hate on Vlad all y'all want. It's probably going to end up being Vlad. The person from hip-hop who's documenting all of these different stories,

I mean, everything from China Mac to the Keefee D shit and all of that, he already gets calls, just like we all do, anybody that has content. You know, you always get calls. the license, the content for documentaries and stuff. Somebody's going to come to Vlad and say, hey, that China Mac thing you did. Man, we want to turn that into a movie.

Like, that whole conversation you had with him. That is actual, say what you want, that's journalism. That's actual reporting. He's getting a firsthand count of events from people about their stories and their situations. Do not be surprised if Vlad TV does what Vulture is doing, New Yorker, somebody else I just named. Who else did I just name?

I can't remember. All of those people are taking their IP. They've started production companies, and they're taking the IP from these investigative journalism stories that they did, and they're turning them into TV and films and everything else, and these production companies is buying them. It's smart. Go look at what ABC News is doing with documentaries,

true crime documentaries, and going to podcast. Like, IHeart and ABC News partnered on, what was the name of the podcast? I can't remember it right now. Bear or something. It was a true crime podcast. But ABC News came, took that true crime podcast and turned it into a documentary that's on Hulu right now. Don't be surprised if Vlad TV is the person that, you know, that ends up happening for because of the hip-hop journalism that he's doing. But Vlad's doing it on a platform.

Yeah, he's doing it in a way where he still gets clout from it. And I think that's what Elliot is frustrated. But that's what Elliot should be doing. Elliot should be doing. He's doing that with Rap Raider when he's doing interviews. but he should be doing those in-depth sit-down the way Vlad does. I think he could also even just take some of his older work that he's done before,

some of the pre-recordings that he turned into clips and turn those into like TV shows or something. And nostalgia is always going to be it. Yo, you can't, Naila, you are so right because there's certain things that we will never be able to do. Somebody like Angie Vantines' catalog is platinum. Triple flag diamond Because she got interviews that nobody can ever get ever again

She sat with Tupac for hours And never put it out She sat with Biggie countless amounts of times Like when you see Pivotal fucking moments When R. Kelly gets pepper sprayed at the garden They both go to Angie's show She documented it in a book

But that's the kind of content and material That not only will be a book It'll be a movie one day It'll be a TV show. It'll be a documentary. You just don't know, like, go back and look at your catalog. Instead of looking at what the brothers that are just starting, like, why would I look at Kais and not and hate Kaisanaat is just getting started?

I got 30 years of catalog. I got 30 years of my own shit. Focus on that. That's why God don't be blessing a lot of people, man. God don't be blessing a lot of people because you don't appreciate what you've done and you don't appreciate where you are. And I'm not just talking about Elliott. I'm just talking about people in general.

When you're looking at the next person and you're looking at somebody, like a young person on the come up and you already trying to figure out ways to stop them, God is like, well, damn, what have I done for you? Your whole life. Now you don't care about that no more. You feel insignificant because because somebody else is moving now,

so you're not even taking into account, you're still here, you're still in the space, and you got what that young man can only dream of, which is 20, 30 years of catalog? The fuck are y'all doing, yo. You got to cut it out. You got to stop.

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Alex, y'all had academics on Flagrant. too. Yeah. Did you hear it? Alex wanted me to talk about this. He wanted me to talk about Elliot Wilson. Why are you from? I gave what you wanted. I give you what you want, Alex. So we didn't speak about it and say you had some choice. We did. I mean, I had some thoughts.

All right. What are your thoughts? I'm curious just to hear what? About what part in particular? Not just in general. Because you came up. I'm just happy to be in the, I'm honestly just happy to be in the conversation. Meaning that, you know, first of all, you know, always salute my guys, salute to you, salute Shouts, you know, Akash, Mark, everybody. for holding it down for me, but you can only hold it down

with facts, which you did. But I would say that I'm just happy to be in the conversation. You'll never hear me say I'm the greatest anything of all time, you know, and you'll never hear me say

I'm the greatest radio personality of all time just because I have too much respect for the OGs that came before me and I genuinely don't feel like that. I'm just happy to have put in the kind of work and, you know, created the kind of content

that has me in the conversation. If you ask me who my favorite radio personalities of all time are, I'm going to tell you, Pedy Green. I've always told y'all that. Y'all should go watch his movie. Talk to me.

I heard Akash say that Howard Stern had a New York Times bestselling book and didn't turn into a movie. What other radio personality had that? P.D. Green. And it's a fantastic book. You know? A fantastic movie.

Talk to me. It stars Don Chito as P.D. Green. Raju P. Henson is in it. It's a great movie. And you'll see why I say P.D. Green is my favorite radio personality of all time. Petty Green also had a cable access show.

if I'm not mistaken, the first time Howard Stern was ever on TV, it was on, you know, P.D. Green show. My other favorite radio personality of all time, Howard Stern, you know, it's not even, it's not even close. So for me, it's Pedy Green, Howard Stern, Wendy Williams, you know, Wendy Williams, but one of my favorite radio personalities before, you know, her and her husband scooped me up from South Carolina and had me as her co-host. So other than that, I got to say Tom Joyner, you know, people don't talk about Tom joining, the way that they should. But when it comes to being a public service, when it comes to being a public service,

Pedy Green, Tom Joyner, the best of the best. But Pedy Green was also, which some would consider a shock job. You know what I mean? Even though I feel the things he was saying, you know, weren't shocking. He was just speaking the truth.

And then I put Angie Martinez. So that's mine. Those are my personal all-time favorite radio, you know, personalities. Can we get more context to what was said on the pod? I'm sorry, because I want to know. Play it.

Yeah, I just jumped into it. We got it. We're not just talking talent. Of course, I think this thing is a fucking amazing. I'm great, right? I'm talking about you've got to be able to mobilize and move an audience. If you could tell me, like,

Howard Sherr moved an audience to fucking serious. I've seen Wendy moving audience in daytime TV. You have to tell me where Sharby moved on. Now I have to tell me anybody else beside Howard Stern who has brought an audience from A to B, which is a different

media. Solomon. Yeah. Where? Where to radio to internet? YouTube is TV. Like, are you crazy? And not only did he bring it to TV, meaning it was on the TV at that time every single day and there was eight other channels

you could fucking watch. There was millions other channels you could watch and you tap on YouTube. Now you have, you have it. So you, of all people, know how hard it is. TV. YouTube is the new TV. You're not here what I'm saying, though. I'm hearing it. I'm digesting it.

I also don't think you're understanding. No, no, no. Because I know by moving audience. Yeah. I know how difficult. But you also don't understand. I'm not saying the Breakfast Club didn't exist and still exist and they're amazing on YouTube. I don't think you know the strong, like, with all due respect. With all due respect. I think him and Charlottomays beef, I don't know what it is. He came on my podcast. He said, you're the star in Charlottes, you're like it. Which I don't like that.

He's using my success to get a Charlema. Exactly. But Charlotte means the great. greatest radio hosts in our generation without a doubt. Other Wendy. Nobody's, no, no, Wendy doesn't come close. What? No, Wendy has had a longer run than Wendy.

Charleston is, Charlie was hit him. Charlemagne is the greatest radio host. Charlotte is the greatest radio host in our generation is not a question. And probably, objectively speaking, objectively speaking, probably the greatest ever if you really wanted to look at it. Probably the greatest. Is him or Howard?

It's only him or Howard. I'm humbled. You know what I mean? Who was the, who was he comparing? Who came on his show? Now we're talking about Howard Stern, Wendy. No, he said someone came on my show and said, Oh, yeah, he was saying how.

People try to do that with shows, but if y'all, y'all know me. I love throwing assists. Like, Andrew Schultz, I knew who Andrew was 10 years ago. We'd be doing brilliant idiots for 10 years. You know what I'm saying? I knew who Andrew Schultz was 10 years. years ago when Chris Moreau, who's sitting right there, came to me and told me I need to start a podcast, and I told Chris, why I do morning radio, why would I want to start a podcast? He was like,

man, you need to get in on podcasting, podcasting. Podcasting is going to be the future. He was absolutely right. I'm glad I listened to him. Andrew Schultz was who I knew I wanted to start a podcast with. Like, you know, Duval is all the way in Atlanta. Andrew right here in New York, I'm like, we have great conversations. He's funny as fuck, smart as fuck. Andrew is doing exactly what I knew he would be doing 10 years ago. Y'all just catching up to the greatness of Andrew Shultz. Can I tell another piece of that story? Sure.

So you were like, check out Shultz. I went to see him. It was at a bar. It was like the New York Comedy Festival. And he was on a panel with another famous personality. I won't say who. And Shultz killed. He was easily the Dominion.

voice, the funniest, everything. And I was like, yo, this dude's fucking insane. He's incredible. And so afterwards, I think you had told him I was coming. I grabbed him. I went to the bar with him.

I was like, look, we want to do a podcast. You want to do it with Shar? Yeah, fuck it. Let's go. That was it. Wow. There were other people

that we were thinking about that when I approached him, well, why would we want to do that? Can we talk about it? Fuck it. Let's go. There was a two-second conversation. And people get lost about it.

And listen, I hope that everybody that's around me in some way, shape, or form, from the Nautilus to the Shostis to whoever it may be, I hope that y'all all at some point look at me and say, he's the lackey. That's how big I want every single one of you all to get. That's the point. I love what. But you don't understand that if you're not a person who don't throw a sis. You don't understand that if you're not a person who when you build things, you're only thinking of yourself. What do I always tell y'all?

If what you build only benefits you, it's not big enough, period. You say that. And also what's recently said to me is like, well, what's your intent behind it? That's right. Damn. So that is not like my word for 2024. One of them is intent. Everything has to be like intentional.

But what Schultz said with like you being the greatest, I don't think it's something that could be like self-proclaimed. Like you have to let others give. I would never say that. Yeah, you got to. That's why, like, my nickname for you is see the goat. It's just, I feel like you should change your name from see the gods to the goat because I feel like you're a goat to me as well.

But, yeah, it would be lame with you to be like, you know, I'm the greatest personality because then you look like, you look silly. Then you look like them. You look dumb. You just do the work. Put your head down and do the work. I will, one other thing, Act said that was interesting. Act was saying, because he kept referencing me.

television. And he was saying that, you know, Wendy Williams was able to take her radio audience to TV and Howard was able to take his radio audience to series. I mean, which makes sense. Because Howard Stern took his radio show to a radio state, a radio platform. It just happened to be a radio platform that was satellite radio. So, yeah, people would follow him. I think people use their voices in different ways. you know, if your thing is television, if you want to say, hey, man, people don't follow Charlemagne

from radio to TV, it might be some truth to that. I think it's different demos, though, because I've been with you on all your platforms, and it's a different demographic every time. Like, your late night show demo is different than your breakfast club. Absolutely.

Hell, you're brilliant, it is demo. It's completely different than both of those demos. So I don't even think that's a fair statement. Absolutely. And even as a content creator, My YouTube demo is completely different from my Instagram demo, which is completely different to the people who listen to me on Sunday night. So that's not true.

What y'all was saying was absolutely true. But I would correct y'all on one thing. Breakfast Club didn't start on YouTube. Breakfast Club started on Power 105.1fm.com. So people had to go to Power 105.1fm.com to get that content. All of those early interviews that people love, like the first Kanye interview, the Dame Dash interview. Anything prior to 2016,

breakfast club didn't get on YouTube until 2016. So from 2010 to 2016, all of that Breakfast Club content was on the dot com. So people had to go to the dot com to actually watch the interviews. And, you, Andrew, or somebody said it. It was like, yo, say what you want about Breakfast Club. When it comes to hip-hop media

and taking that content and being consistent in putting it out every single day, that we were 100% doing that. And I think we made that point of saying, you took terrestrial radio to the internet, which I didn't see any other radio station doing it to death. That's a fact. I mean, that was our whole thing,

because when I was doing radio in Philly and radio in South Carolina, I was always putting stuff up online. Like a lot of my first national looks is because I was posting stuff online. We used to do that when she was on, Shade 45. Envy would do that when he was on

serious satellite radio and on Hot 97. So it's like when we came together, we all do. We got to utilize the internet in order to get our content out there. And so that's why people started going to the dot com. And then we started putting content on YouTube. That's why we're doing a Breakfast Club documentary.

The documentary is coming. You know, it's being, it's active. It's in motion. So when we do the documentary, play? No, it's a documentary. Oh, okay. So it's actual, we... If there's a movie, who's going to play?

I mean... Don't say motherfucking Morsech Testament. Morris Chesson, it's too old to play me. But he could. Continue on what you're going about it. My thing is, no, what I was saying,

my thing is that we, we were putting it on the dot com, and I lost my train. We were putting it on the dot com, and then it eventually, you know, went to YouTube. He lost his drink. But all of this will be told on the thing,

about movement, right? I use my voice to move people for different things. I think people sometimes forget. Television is just another thing that I do. We do Breakfast Club. We've been doing brilliant idiots for 10 years. I chose, I want to do a network. Black Effect Podcast Network.

You can go buy this hat right now on Black Effect. Oh, BlackEffect.com. It's Black Effect Hat with Mitchell and Ness. You know what I mean? Yeah, BlackEffect.com. The merch is available. Mitchell and Ness, Black Effect Hat. But I wanted to start a podcast network.

We got 28 shows under the podcast network. Black Effect is at a billion downloads right now. We're doing great with the podcast network. SBAH Productions with Audible, Finding Tamika, Summer of 85, Unleash for Love, broke down profits, plenty more to come. books, you know what I mean? Not just my own books. Temeanor Malory, Anita Copac, Doug Melville, with a lot more to come.

I got a lot of different stuff down the pipeline. So I use my voice to move people in different ways. What we talked about earlier, when we talked about, you know, when you get to a certain position, you know, you have to use your voice to be of service. I chose to talk about my mental health journey and move people towards going to therapy. You know, you know, finding healing. So using your voice to move your audience just to another platform to benefit you, that's not the only way to use your voice. Yeah, even the doctor I went to was like, ever since Charleney started talking about this,

more people have came in and asked to get. Yeah, I was like, damn, at the doctor's office before talking about things like the. The doctor that we talked about, soaring, soaring medical, you know, that's where we went to go get our CT scans for our heart. arts. Yeah, he's at an influx in business. But my point is, that's how you use your voice. Like that, like, I understand what Act was saying, but that's not the only measure. Just saying, hey, I did radio. So now I go do TV. I, you know, I use my voice to move a lot of different things. Also, we're in a different climate. Like, different platforms don't hold as much weight as

they do then. 100%. Like, podcasts hold way more weight than a TV show right now. Depends what the show is Because there's still some TV shows That hold a lot of weight But you know, like yeah To your point, to your point, yeah I mean, you know, there's not There's not too many big, who's,

I can't think of a platform in media But I can't think of a show on TV That has a bigger Reached in Joe Rogan maybe Reality TV shows do well But even reality TV shows, they're like its own universe, like Bravo. Absolutely. Anything else, Alex, from this conversation?

Nah, that was it. My man, I got to go. Alex, peace my guy. Safe travels. Happy holiday. I truly just appreciate being in the conversation. If that's the debate, if the debate is who's the greatest radio personality of all time? And as people talk about me, Howard, and Wendy, I appreciate it. Thank you.

You know, I'm going to keep working. Look at that. I'm in the Radio Hall of Fame. We all are, though. Howard is, too. Howard and Wendy is, too. And it's crazy because I did Wendy's acceptance speech. I think it was 2006. I introduced her when she got inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame.

And I remember just sitting there thinking, I'm going to be in Radio Hall of Fame one day too. And guess what? I'm in the Radio Hall of Fame. All phrases due to God. Yeah, this is bad, man. Bad. What's that?

Pull up the video tale. It's not bad. It's just like I understand what Taraji coming from. So did Taraji P. Henson. She broke down crying in the middle of the interview and discussing her financial situation. And pace she receives as an accomplished actor, the math ain't, maffin. Every time I negotiate, it's like I'm starting from the bottom.

Can you find that, Taylor? That's ridiculous. Taraja, you had the audacity to say you're thinking about stopping acting. We said, stop talking. Are you thinking about it? I'm just tired of working so hard, being gracious at what I do, getting paid a fraction of the cost. I'm tired of hearing my sister say the same thing over and over. You get tired.

I hear people go, you work a lot. You have to. The math ain't math. And when you start working a lot, you know, you have a team. Big bills come with what we do. We don't do this alone. The fact that we're up is a whole entire team behind us. They have to get paid.

So when you hear someone saying, oh such and such made $10 million. No, that's not that that didn't make it to their account. Know that off the top Uncle Sam is getting 50%. Okay? So do the math. Now we have $5 million. Your team is getting 30% or whatever your team is

off of what you grossed. Not after what Uncle Sam took. Now do the math. So I just, I'm only human and it seems every time I do something and I break another glass ceiling when it's time to renegotiate, I'm at the bottom again like I never did

what I just did and I'm just tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I get that. It wears on you, you know? Because what does that mean? What is that telling me? What is it telling me? Yeah.

And what does it tell me? Yeah. I love Taraji, man. I don't like this. And if I can't fight, but I'm coming up behind me, then what am I doing? I'm sorry. Yeah, you're not going to appreciate that if you look at it through the lens of celebrity.

Because the first thing you're going to say is $10 million. Like she's crying over, you know, but no, that is anybody who's working. Everybody feels, you know, underappreciated, you know, people feel underpaid, you know, especially if you constantly working, working, working, working. Because what she does is very exhausting. You think it's not? It's not like she gets a biweekly check. So even out of that, that's like a large lump sum that she has to live off of and figure out how to make ends meet.

That's right. And those assistants and those lawyers and those managers and agents and everybody else, they get paid whether you working or not. So you got to find a way to keep that income coming. So I get it. I mean, all she's basically saying is she's overworked and underpaid. Who can't relate to that? Yeah. You know what I mean?

Look at Taylor. It's about to cry now. I am. It's sad. No. It is sad. You know, and you overworked, underpaid, you know, you don't necessarily feel appreciated. So I get it.

I get it. And I mean, you know, we can shower to Raji with all the love in the world. That ain't going to change me. That ain't going to change the fact that she's overworked and underpaid, you know? So salute to Taraji P. Henson, man. That is, yeah, that's that. What else we got, tail again? Fine.

I better know. We need black Hollywood. I don't know Well, you wanted to talk about this one. Because if we are doing our own things and we support our own shit, our dollar. Not really? I don't think that, yeah.

I don't think that's necessarily true. We say that shit, but a lot of these motherfuckers just going to get in position and do the same thing that these corporate people are doing now. That's why y'all... Listen, y'all can say what y'all want about Tyler Perry. I bet you if... I didn't see the whole interview,

but I bet you if they had a conversation with Taraji and asked her who gave her her biggest check. Tyler got Dan Perry. Because, and, you know, for anybody out there in Hollywood, you can correct me on this if I'm wrong, but there's this thing called a precedent. And basically when somebody pays you something for a film, that is your precedent.

That's what you go and you negotiate with. So if Tyler says, hey, Taraji, I'm going to give you $4 or $5 million for a film. Now her precedent is set. That's what she negotiates with from here on out. And I think if I'm not mistaken, I've heard Taraji say that before. I definitely know that happened with Tiffany had is.

Taraji said the biggest checks she ever got, I believe, was from Tyler Perry. So to your point, Nala, yeah, you do need... Like we value each other. But we have to value each other. You can't just be the blackface in that position who's still underpaying people. Right.

You know what I mean? Overworking and underpaying people. You still got to... You just have to... Like you said, you got to value. you folks. It don't matter being in a position if you're not going to value the person. So if the movie hits number one, they don't get any of that. It only goes to the right. It depends. Like, what kind of contract you got? You know what I mean? You might get a bonus for

the movie hitting number one. You might have some equity in the film. It just depends. Like, Get Out was a film where people in Get Out had equity. And that's because Jordan Peele didn't have the budget to pay everybody. Because even when it plays on, I think on HBO now, like they don't get a check for. It's just like, it's a really true. It's a lot of crazy. It just like it's a really truly depends on what your role is on a film. Like, if you're an EP, like I said, if you, you know, help finance the film in somewhere, you have some type of

maybe even sweat equity in it. Like, it just depends on what your role is. If you just a talent, nine times out of ten, you might get some residuals, but that shit ain't nothing crazy. You know? You can't just be talent, man. This is what the whole strikers about.

This is literally what the whole scraper is about. Because does TV shows make it, like, would an actor, be part of a TV show than a movie. I'm assuming it's a show is. If you want a show like a Seinfeld or Friends or one of those shows that was on for a long time and then it gets picked up in syndication, you know, like those guys don't never got to work. Seinfeld don't never have to work another day in his life. But nobody to cast a Seinfeld probably don't have to work.

But that's what I guess I'm being confused because how much it did it get paid up front then? What do you mean? Because when you're talking about Taraji getting paid like she has, what did you call it a? Could some people get residuals and some. people don't get residual, so it really just depends on what's in your contract. Yeah. Yeah. It's a contract.

Yes. It's just all about how you negotiate, man. I don't know. But also, too, it's just like, not even just how you negotiate. I think what Taraji is talking to, too, is, you know, the largest social issue of, you know, women being underpaid. You know, women, women being underpaid for doing the same amount of work that a man does. Yeah, that Benjamin Button film that she was in. Yeah.

One of the largest grossing films, and she got paid a quarter with her co-host got. Shit crazy, man. And times is hard for everybody. You know, like, nobody wants extra bills. That's why Anthony Edwards wants an abortion. Let's click on this. What is it, Taylor? What happened?

I don't even know the story. I'm just looking at the headline. Anthony Edwards addresses women's abortion claims. So basically, he was cheating on his girl. Black men don't cheat. Um, everybody. So he's cheating on his girl. Let me go back to it.

That's a funny. This is his girl. This is when neighborhood talking shit is funny. Go back to it. Let me read the ham. Anthony Edwards issued with apology for telling his little side piece to get an abortion. All women should be empowered to make their own decisions. So this is his girl.

Beautiful. Beautiful black queen. She's already pregnant. She's on her with this woman. What does she get on? Yeah, why do you always cheating when a girl is pregnant? That's this disrespectful as hell. That is the worst.

time possible. Well. What the hell is you willing? What's the real thing? Yo. That's not even funny. I just did that to piss the room off. Come on.

Stop. You think I didn't know how y'all's going to react to that. Man. Stop. Okay. So these are the, this is his statement. But that's why women got to say we're pregnant. Because if you're pregnant by a man and you're,

You're not in the mood to have sex and things like that, even though pregnancy sex is amazing. If you're not in the mood to have sex and stuff like that, you've got to tell you, man, we're pregnant. So whatever I'm not doing, you're not doing. That ain't no tall past just because the woman is pregnant. It isn't. That's why it's absolutely.

You're supposed to. You're right. We, in this together. Exactly. That's why you're supposed to have that belt too. Whenever I feel contraction, you feel it too. What? But men have to think about that, though.

Men can't think, man, what I'm going to do for the next nine months. That's a problem. Men don't think. That's a fact. I'm not going to generalize all men, but a lot of motherfuckers ain't thinking. What's the story? He just, I made comments in the heat of a moment that I'm not in line with what I believe and who I want to be as a man. All women should be supported and empowered to make their own decisions about their bodies

and what is best for them. I am handling my personal matters privately and will not be commenting on them at any further time. I mean, I don't see the problem. So basically, he was. telling her to not get the abortion. Sorry, he was telling her to get the abortion. And... She was saying it's difficult because Rovuey Way got overturned.

What? What? That's not what happened? Wait, what? Hold on. I'm bringing up to sexes. Hold on. Steve Nees Smith or something, but... I just, I mean, what's the problem, though?

Like, what did he do? He wanted this sidepiece to get an abortion. That's why I always tell people who are anti, you know, abortion. You ain't never got the wrong person pregnant. That's really all it boils down to. Everybody always disagrees with abortion until they married and they get, you know, somebody on the side pregnant. You got, let me see.

Hell no, I can't do this. I still have an appointment on the 27th. He's saying getting an abortion, L.O.L. He handled that wrong. Not LOL. Exactly. Not in the text message either. I still have an appointment on the 27 of hell no, I can't do this.

So now what? She said, what a great response. get an abortion, L.O.L. Honestly, I had an abortion with my son around two years ago, and I regret it every day. Huh? As in like, she don't want to get another abortion. Man, you can't afford a kid in the world.

You don't know what it is yet. That's not the point. I said I had an abortion two years ago, and I regret it. Yeah, but I don't want a kid. Just take the pill. You don't care about knowing but you. You got the money. What's I say you got the money?

What's the whole up? Because now you're fin of makeup. How do we know this is him? Well, he did apologize for it. You're right. Fender make what a problem exactly. I don't give a fuck. I've been diced this whole time.

I don't bother you. I don't cause problems. Nothing. Don't speak to me like that. I told you I would because you want me to. So that's that you talking about a life. Just be some, I don't know. Here's the thing, man.

He handled this all wrong. A woman call you, say she's pregnant. All you should say is what, so what do you want to do? Exactly. That's it. But at the end of the day, too, I feel like it's both people's responsibility. Like, why are y'all having sex unprotected? Or why are you not having a backup plan?

Because raw sex feels amazing. But still, like, it's always going to be some type of... I mean, yes, every time you lay down with a person, that is the reason. That's the consequences. You might get somebody pregnant or SDD. Right. But I'm just saying it's both fault. But raw sex trumps all of that.

It does. And y'all know it because the reality is. The reality of the situation is, no you have. I have. The reality of the situation is, we know these consequences every time we lie down, but we still choose to do it. Why?

Because it feels that good. Now you know why cracked is cracked. How did you just try to? We're not there no more. Let it go. We are not there. Okay, but yeah, so that's the whole thing. That's

going on. So what's the outrage, though, about it? Anything? About a, Oh, what Stephen A said. Yeah, I have it. She shouldn't have shared private action. Pretty much. Well, shit, I don't want to see half the shit

y'all show all the time, but yes, I agree. Stephen A is 76 years old. Ready? Let's say this. He's 76? No, he's not that old. Anthony Edwards had to apologize because he is a public figure. Having said that, once again, here's the bigger lesson to be learned.

Guard who you deal with. Once again, I'm singing that same old dance. none of our damn business. Who Anthony Davis is screwed around with, who he impregnated, he has a relationship

with this woman, and she put him on blast. She took text messages and revealed them to the public. I'm starting to wonder what repercussions somebody can have for having

their privacy violated. That's what I'm I'm not casting in the aspersers. We live in a society, ladies and gentlemen, if Anthony Davis wanted her to have an abortion, respectfully, that's his business. We have pro-choice and we have pro-lifers all over the country. And I keep saying Anthony Davis, I apologize.

I mean, Anthony Edwards, I'm sorry. Got you got a girlfriend. I say Anthony Davis's going on him right now. We're talking about Anthony Edwards for the Minnesota Temple Wolves. Who I really get to talk about, who I would have loved to talk about involving basketball,

But we got to talk about this. Because she violated their private affairs. She is a woman. She is free to do what she want with her own body. This is America. If she's impregnated and she wants to have the child, that is her business. If Anthony Edwards does not want her to have the child, that is his business. There's no laws he's violating because he wouldn't want the child.

there are pro-lifers and pro-choice folks all over this country. Just like we saw a million celebrating when the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade a couple of years back. We saw millions lamenting it. Okay. He shouldn't show the text.

But he also shouldn't text. But I wouldn't have known that you should have said. A hundred thousand dollars is crazy for an abortion. I don't like this headline because it's not $100,000 for an abortion. It's $350 for an abortion. $150 for an abortion.

I don't know how much they cost now. $350,000 for an abortion. $350 for an abortion. And $99,650 for her pocket. That's what that is. The abortion don't cost no $100,000. Stephen A. Smith isn't wrong, but he's not being realistic. And the reason he's not being realistic,

he's got to understand the area that we're in. Everything Stephen A is saying is absolutely correct. It is none of our damn business. I wish people didn't share this type of shit, but they do. and they will continue to because that's the era that we're in. Well, maybe he's trying

to shame so that people stop. No, I think what people need to stop is sneaking around. What people need to stop doing is thinking that they're getting away with things. You got a woman at home. Black men don't cheat. Black men don't cheat.

People not even matter about who cheat and they matter about the girl being pregnant. But my point is that wouldn't happen if he didn't cheat. Yeah, yeah, you're right. That's all I'm simply saying. Like, and I get it. I understand, you know, how, you know, biology and shit works. I get it, you know what I mean?

But my thing is simply this. You also know the world that we're in and you know who you are. Yeah. Anthony Edwards, you know who you are. You're not these regular, degular motherfuckers. You are a superstar basketball player for the Minnesota Timberwolves. You know how much he's on the line. You know what your-year-beys young, too.

Isn't he like 20-something? Yeah, but so what? Like we got to stop using that young thing as an excuse because there's so many NBA players that have also been young who did not make those same mistakes. LeBron James should be your ball, king. For all you motherfuckers that still like to scream

that young shit, LeBron James should be your bar. You know how many basketball players came from high school to the league who didn't have those problems? The Kevin Garnett's? Who? What, Howard? Terrible again. Terrible again.

Territail. Territory. Yeah. Terrible. Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bryant. I mean, you know, Kobe had his issue once he was in the league,

but from that time when he first started, 18 to however, oh, he wasn't getting no trouble? You know what I mean? Everybody just has to discipline themselves more. Except hurry. You know what's at stake. You know what's that stake.

Saying people are young, that shit don't fly. Because you ain't young enough to take that $100 million check. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Salute to Nikki Minaj too, man. Nicky Minnard sold 220,000 records.

She hasn't put out her album in five years. You know, she's breaking all kind of records on the billboard charts. I think that is a, that's very impressive. You know, Nikki one of them ones. Like there's about, there's five people who came from that era who we, who we, you know, put up there. And it's Drake, of course. It's Kendrick, of course. It's Cole, of course.

It's future, of course, and it's Nikki Minaj. And, you know, Nikki's still one and then ones. Five years, you ain't put out an album in five years. The Bobs came through, 220,000 copies sold, you know, toward it's a 228,000. Number one album in the country, what, she's just, I think she's the woman with the most number one albums ever or something like that. So salute to Nikki, you know,

and salute to the good brother Scarface, too, man. Scarface is, NPR Tiny Desk concert. You know, people are saying that's the best hip hop Tiny Desk ever. I'll tell you what, I ain't never watched Tiny Desk before Scarface. Really? No. And I watched it a other night, and I went down a rabbit hole. I watched Wu-Tang. I watched

Sullivan. No, you watched the Juvenile one. You did. I never watched it in full. Oh, yeah, Juvenile. Did I? Yeah. Oh, I might have. Okay, okay. You're right. Oh, you're right. I did watch Juvenile. I'm bugging. But I, you know, I salute Scarface, just because I got Scarface is my top five.

Y'all, I tell you all the time, I got a top seven favorite MCs of all time. And it's Naz, Jay-Z, it's not in no order. Nas, J-Z, Ghostface, Scarface, Killamike, T-I, T-I, G-Z. That's my top seven of all time. So when I see FACE getting his flowers, I'm like, yeah, FACE one of them ones. Face provided the soundtrack to my life growing up, you know what I mean?

And the illest thing about Scarface that I love the most, he's nothing like his music. You know how Scarface music is like dark And he's like always telling a story And it's like always like a cautionary tale Scarface is the most fun loving Happy Unserious

Wanting to crack jokes all the time person You ever gonna meet And that makes me love that man even more man So salute to Brad Jordan man I really wish Scarface and Willie Dee would you know, get on better terms and start doing the ghetto boys reloaded podcast. You know, we had the ghetto boys reloaded podcast on the Black Effect IHard Radio

podcast network. It was a fantastic podcast. You know, they had, the last episode they did together was Willie D. addressing his issues with Face because Face did the Grammy celebration without him. And they haven't done one together since, but I really wish that, you know, they could put that behind them and get back to doing the podcast because they were They're not only are their amazing storytellers. You know, people get on there with face and Willie D and they say things. They don't say other places, so salute to them.

Meek Mill celebrated the passing of Pennsylvania's probation reform bill. Salute to Meek. I also have to say, D1, my guy, salute to D1. D1, the criticism you had of Meek and, you know, Ross and others. It's moments like this that I, wish you were just as loud about my brother. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, this is real world change. But we were talking about all podcasts. Real world change. Go back to the headline, Taylor. Go back to the Meek Mill headline, please. Taylor hates me. Taylor hates me. She just hates me.

My bad. She got to hate me. There's no way. There's no way you did that on purpose. You got to hate me. It's impossible. It's impossible. See? Okay. Meek Mill, celebrated the passing of Pennsylvania's probation reform bill. What is that? What does that say? SB 838. The bill allows criminal records in Pennsylvania to be sealed from public view

and allows fewer people on probation are in county jails. The House and Senate passed the legislation. The new probation law aims to limit the length of probation and prevent people from being sent back to jail from minor violations. Reports also state Pennsylvania has one of the highest rates of residents who are incarcerated under supervision during the press conference.

Meek became emotional. Let's listen to the press conference, man. I don't really drop tears, but I want to say this because there's a lot of young men and they don't really know what I go through to like even get any of the place this way.

Government officials, they even change my life to get on the stage to be able to speak for a lot of people. I didn't ask for the position. I don't want to do it. It's not for a couch. It's something that I stand for it.

It's something that I live. I appreciate you for help me Wallo back there Wallylow I want to come here I want to use

my man as another example because he's somebody else that came from greatest sport and he just

was posting video with just motivational and I used to just post Wallow because when I don't really got people

who come from that come from those environments and can change it up and still vote the way

I could be in the room with it don't matter if it's people from my neighborhood or people like Michael Rubinard's people like the governor

and still be myself and still contribute to my neighborhood. So I just wanted to get that out and just let that out because I never really say much. And changing the law today will really like help a lot of young men. I had a lot of friends died, Philadelphia,

to jail, and I'm getting to represent for them to say I can't even really use my foot. Man, salute the fucking meat milk. Man, that's That's what I'm talking about. That is what I'm talking about. That is using your platform for real world change.

And not only just using your platform, using your experiences, the things that you've been through. Like Meek was on probation for Madlong, ended up going to jail for popping a wheelie. That ended up being a violation of probation. And so he decided to turn his trauma into a testimony that is now turned into legislation. Like Meek said, like, yo, he didn't ask, you know, to be in that position. But guess what? God does not call the qualified. He qualifies the called.

So y'all can say whatever y'all want about Meek Mill and y'all can say, you know, Meek raps about this, meek raps about that. Amen. Maybe we say God works mysterious ways. I don't know. Like he's using that platform, you know, to be able to help pass legislation.

And that's going to help a lot of other brothers, man. And we also got to be patient with our people because you just don't know what people are going to turn out to be. If I had told you all 10 years ago, Meek Mill would be helping to get legislation passed in Pennsylvania for probation reform. Would anybody believe me? If you would have told me 10 years ago

that you would be this version of yourself right now. First of all, you're so disrespectful. I don't know why. That was mad to ask me. No reason. Why? Why I just run into a shot? It has nothing to do with it.

I'm just saying you came a long way. But that's my point. I talk about stuff like that all the time because I know T. 20 years ago. I know that version of TI to the version of TI we see now. I know Gucci Man 20 years ago

coming into the radio station terrifying the fuck out of me. Like I can just look at, I'm looking at this man. I just know something ain't right, right? Now look at the version of Gucci now. I know Gizi from 20 years ago. You don't know who people are going to turn out to be. Be patient with folks, man.

I don't give a fuck how old they are, what they're doing. Everybody's life, everybody's testimony can be turned into something like that, man. And to see Meek up there crying tears of joy, but also tears of grief, because I'm sure in that moment, every single wave of emotion hit him. He probably started thinking about all his homies that died. He probably started because he told the story about how he used to have to take the chance of violating probation just to take his son to school.

Because I think he had to cross day lines or something like that. Like, come on, man. Mick deserves all his flowers for that. salute to me. And I love D1. What D1's, you know, message isn't wrong. All I'm simply saying is, yo, D1, when you see stuff like this, you got to amplify it because this is the power of hip hop. Like, this is the power of people using their voices. This is the kind of influence that, you know, people like Meek Mill and them have, man.

So, you know, salute to that brother Meek. To anybody with a platform that's using their platform, you know, to be of service. This annoyed me. Let's go to asking idiots Taylor Can we go to asking idiots? Taylor just hates me Yo Hates me

I'm making sure you see You know what I talk about your boy Oh let me do some elevate No I actually do not Because that is not my boy Do you want to do Can we do elevate? Yeah

Let's do elevate And then we do some asking idiots And then we get the fuck on Salute to my guy Steve Harvey man Big Unp You know one of my mentors Somebody that I get a lot of great advice from, man. There's nobody out here, you know, doing business quite like Steve Harvey is,

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and experience more daily energy with ElevateU, Vitality Daily Greens. Go to elevateu.com, L-E-V-A-T-E-Y-O-U.com and use promo code idiots for 15% off your entire purchase. Let's get back to the show. Taylor, let's do some asking idiots, Taylor. Come on, Taylor. Wait, before we do ask you idiots, can I say that I had called the brilliant idiotous fan-based misogynistic at one point on this podcast I was on? And I just wanted to apologize because misogynistic was the wrong word.

I should have said chauvinistic. And it's not everybody, but sometimes you guys can give that feeling. And that's just based off the comic. I don't even know why you said that. All you doing is making the brilliant Nidious Massive mobilized against you right now. No, I don't want them to. That's why I'm apologizing. They don't care.

They don't care. They are not here for your apologies. They are not here to be entertained by you in any way, shape, or form. They have already made up their mind. They're going to listen to this podcast and maybe even enjoy it. still throw shots at you just because that's the way the world works. Naila, you know this already. I hate people. You think just because you made complex list of, what was it, most powerful people in hip-hop, what was it?

Media. Media. You think because you made that list, they're going to be, you know, give you grace. I would like grace. Huh? I thought that was the whole point in the conversation. You think because you have started one of the hottest, you know, parties in the city, which isn't even really a party.

It's a networking event called Pastor Ox Live. You think people are going to give you grace? They should. You think because you had your Amazon rotation roundtable show and because you got your blends and trend show on Power 105, one they're supposed to give you grace. Don't forget I'm also on the breakfast club every Friday. That's right.

And guess what? You still suck to them. And you're going to always suck to them because they've made up their mind. It is what it is. There's nothing you can do. I do see people who say differently though. They'd be like, Nilela.

Nile is cool. I like Naila. I think that's what they should say because I'm not worried. Why don't worry about their opinion? I'm not worried. I'm just apologizing if I'm offended anybody. That's it. I'm sorry.

Never mind. I mean, I'm sure we do have some misogynistic listeners. Not all of them, though. You know? Misogynistic means like prejudice against women. See, I had to look up the word misogynistic. I was getting it confused.

That's your problem. But all motherfuckers just be using words and don't even know the meaning. But it was close. It was close because I feel like misogynistic and chauvinistic could be synonyms. One's just a little more extreme. Okay. I get it. Ask an idiot, socking.m.p4 says, if you were an elf,

what would your name be? Interesting. What elves have unique names? You're already the size of one, so. Taylor. Wow, that was wild of you to say. Because he does it to me all the time. All right.

Well, pull up penguin names, and let's see what name Taylor would choose if she would. I love penguins. Elf name. You are a penguin. I'll be happy feet. Ooh, that's a good one. Happy feet. You do.

You're a penguin energy, though. What was that supposed to mean? What would your name be, Nile? Oh. I had to look up some. What's some elf names? Inpo. Honeythorn.

Mm. Bernard. That's good for you. Yeah, I'm Leonard. Because it's close to, yeah, yeah, yeah. Buddy. Dobby. Yeah, buddy.

That's a famous elf name from the movie Elf. Dobby from Harry Potter. Oh, Dobby. I like that. I would, yeah, I'll probably just be Leonard. I think Leonard is a nice little elf, cool elf name. Lenny. Eh, eh.

Eh. Neh. I think Lenny is a more of an elf name. Nard. Shani uppetry. Huh? Shini uppetry? Nard.

That's Santa's number one elf. I like Nard. I'm gonna go with Nard. Nard-o. You said yours be Lard Taylor? What'd you say? Brighton. What would yours be Nile?

I like Happy Feet. That was a good one. Happy feet? Eh. Not the way she got beat by shoulder. in that race. Nothing happy about those feet. Sad feet. Frustrated feet.

We still have to re-race, though. No, you don't. Levi. Levi. Elf Army. It comes from the Elf Army. Spandex. Could that be a good name for you? Could I'm thinking than you in Spandex?

Oh, God. What else we got, Taylor? What else you got? Go. I'm not answering that question. What was your most memorable gift received for the holidays. I don't want no gifts for the holidays. Like, there's literally nothing I want.

Like, nothing. Like, absolutely nothing. It'd be hard to think of a gift to give you. So I could cancel with my mom. Listen, your mom gives me. No. You already say. Listen to me.

What your mom gives me is amazing. And she already knows what I want. That's not a gift. I need you all to put context in this conversation. No. He was my dad to punch him in his mouth Because without, no, I know y'all so I know what to talk about, but this conversation sounds great. What Taylor's mom gives me is not a gift, it's a love offering.

My nigga, stop playing with me. It is. Would you call your mama's pie a gift? Even pie doesn't sound like a pie that she bakes like apple pie and sweet potato pie. Whatever it is. I just said your mama pie. It is a food gasm for sure. And I love it when she cut.

I love it when she cuts it for me. And it's already a knee slices. When your mom cuts it into like the perfect meat. First of all, stop. She never cut a slice for you. Yes, she has. She has. She did at the radio station one day.

She cut it. I mean, it was the perfect meat. It was me then. No, I saw her cut it. No, she didn't. She even had the spatula. She cut it. And then she pulled it up.

And she said, come here, baby. No, she didn't. She said, come here, Shaw. She would never disrespect her husband. She said, I didn't say she, what, what? That's disrespecting her husband. And she saying, come here. Like, I wish she would.

She's an older woman. They call every person baby. Excuse me. Relax. Relax. Older women don't call people baby? Yes. But not my mom.

She did call me baby. Your mom never called me baby, Taylor? No, she didn't. Wow. No, she didn't. Wow. You got confused with Mama. Wow.

But not my mom. Mama definitely call me baby. Exactly. Mama definitely but not my mom. I'm not going to show you the DM. No, you're so. But I don't have a, I don't have a memorable gift because I don't want anything.

Like, I like, I like, I like doing stuff for the kids. That's the most important. That's the funnest thing to me because, you know, I got young kids. So there's nothing like watching them be excited about opening gifts. Like, that's literally the greatest gift. Do you still buy your kids toys? Because I have put it hot to that. Yeah, it's funny.

My, my wife this year said everybody gets one gift. Oh. Because it's like, yo, they get all year around. That's the problem with Christmas. It's like, if you, if you're, if you're, if you're given all year around, and you get what you want all year around. Why at the end of the year, though, I got to be forced to go out there

and find something to buy you? I don't like that pressure. Yeah, I got to go out there and fight people because there's thousands, millions of people all in the city and shit like that, just to buy you one gift? Like, I don't know. People don't go online now.

Why are you still shopping in this door? This is a great question. Cody.org. What crime would you commit if that meant that, that no one could ever commit that crime again. Cody, I don't know if there's a movie like this, but this is a fantastic premise.

It is, but it's a fantastic premise. Like, what crime would you commit if that meant that no one could ever commit that crime again? The final crime. Would you get caught though if he'd make the crime? That's another good point. I mean, it has to be murder, right? Because murder is the one,

murder you can't come back from that in no way, shape, or form. I feel like some people... So it would have to be, it would have to be murdered. Like if nobody ever got murdered ever again? Who would be the person you were to? I already know who I would. What? I will murder.

You see this sick motherfucker? Dressed in all black like the omen? Did you hear this motherfucker? You can take this out. She asked me a question, then stopped it to say, I already know who I would kill. Who would it be? What's a guy's name that killed Trayvon Martin? Oh.

Oh. Not mad at that. I don't wish death on nobody. I also think maybe it would have been murdered for me if I had to pick one probably raped. You were rapist someone? No, nobody deserves it, especially like young kids. Absolutely, that shit kills my heart.

Like men or women. Damn. Damn, so you would have to commit that? No, I know. I'm saying for the movie, we talk about a movie. That's all. You don't have to take this question so literal, Taylor. What do you mean?

Jesus, it's a hypothetical. You're looking at you're looking at an island disgust. Ooh, you would do that? It's a hypothetical question. You do not have to take this literal at all. I'm just saying that's dark. It is. This is a fun high question to ask.

This is a good high question. Cody, this is a good question, yo. He's probably high right now, honestly, when he wrote this. Ah, child, yeah, because child molestation is crazy. Bad. Yeah, as somebody who's been molested as a child. Yes. I understand.

But murder, though. I don't know. Because with murder, like, there's no coming back for murder. So that mean, people are just gone. You know what I mean? Not saying that that trauma... You've also said at one point in the context of a different conversation that sometimes people know when it's time to go.

What's that movie I watch? Where some people are... I'm not justifying murder at all. But the guy... Oh, frailty. Frailty. One of my favorite movies. Or God was using that person to get rid of...

the people who God needed. Did you watch Fralty? Yeah. Did you like it? It was interesting. You told me to watch it. It was interesting. Fralty was great.

But I'm saying like... Now that's a good example because in frailty this dude was committing a crime. Yes. But the people he was murdering deserved to be murdered. I was... According to God's list that he was getting from God. See, I don't know. I don't even want to dip in that though because then, you know, like the white people who

be killing black people would be like, I was told by whoever the hell they pray. You know what I mean? Like, that shit's not justified. Yeah. How old is that movie? Oh. Oh, wild old. You should watch it, though.

Wild old. Did you watch Leave the World Behind? Did anybody watch Leave the World Behind? The Obama movie? Yeah. I started it. I didn't finish it. Fantastic film.

You think it's fantastic? I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thoroughly enjoyed it because... It feels awkward. Why? A lot of that stuff has already happened to us. Is it fictional or not fiction? I mean, it's

fiction, but it's not like that couldn't happen. Like when you see Mershaw Lee break down the three stages of how you could destabilize the country, and he's like, take away their technology. So nobody can use their phone. Nobody can contact each other. You take that away. That causes instant isolation. Then the second one was misinformation.

So you spread misinformation, you know, all over the place. And then the third one is we'll take each other out. It'll be coup d'et tiles everywhere. You know, we won't be knowing what's going on. Everybody gets on edge. And that's exactly what happened. And it happened in the movie in 48 hours. COVID took two weeks to shut our, shut our whole shit down.

Two weeks, the whole country was shut the fuck down. Economy needed a bailout. Within two weeks, America's a fucking house of cards. So when you watch that, when you watch that movie, it's just like, you know, nothing's happening in that movie that can't happen in real life. life. What else we got, Taylor? Let's do two more. What is the first step in being healthy? Diet. 100%. You know, that is the first step in being healthy. Number one is making the choice that you want to be healthy. Number two is diet. Putting the right things in your body,

drinking water, getting proper rest. That's it. I'm talking about even before you get to working out, anything else, diet is the first step in being healthy, physically healthy. Chris, who's always sick, He has to mom. Take it, yeah, take it from me. Diet and then you have to find, well, water is part of diet, but like you have to find an activity that's going to give you a relief from stress. I always say mental discipline. But that's how you develop the diet. That's how you stick to the diet.

That's how you build time into your schedule. Could be running. Could be swimming. You got to like mentally get to that. Could be fishing. Something when you check out and let it. everything else come way down. That's that combination.

What I like about what both of you all just said, y'all didn't just talk about physical health. You know what I mean? Because a lot of times when we talk about health, we only think physical. Physical. You know, but physically, mental, physical, mental, and emotional health

is super important. Mental might be a little bit more important than physical nowadays. Because I know some people that is in great shape physically, but they fucked up mental. They're connected. They're very connected. It's not one or the other.

Yeah, you're right. It's not one of the other. You're absolutely correct. So that's, yeah, that's the first step in being healthy. Everything we just said. I really can't remember. They're going to ask me, the question is, favorite moment episode of the year.

I really do not know. Kudak, I don't know what you're trying to spell. I don't know. I don't have a favorite. My favorite moment of the year is probably Andrew selling out Madison Square Garden twice and selling out the form. And the reason that's my favorite moment is because y'all can go back and listen to old podcast and I would always say that I felt like one day Andrew was going to be the biggest comedian

touring in the country. I think the guy's name is Russell Peters. Russell Peters at the time was that person. And I saw Andrew in that space. And so when Andrew was selling out all these big arenas overseas, salute, love that, you know. but, you know, as he would even say, it's kind of like the Latin pop star thing. You big over there, but can you do it over here?

So I knew once he started coming over here, he was going to do the same thing. So now, being that I love to be right about things, I can talk my shit because he sold out Madison Square Garden, you know, twice, and he sold out the farm and selling out arenas all over the United States of America. So for me, honestly, that's been my favorite, at least moment of the year.

Episode of the year. I don't know. I got to think about that. I got to think about that. What else, Taylor? Let's do one more. What about the lip one? The lip one. Yeah. What lip one? Putting your lip on this dick. I don't even want to play them. I'm going on. I'm taking my ball and going home. No, she got you actually. As always. She got you.

We got you. No, I'm not. As always, as always, no, I don't. No, I don't. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think you're smart. you think you're intelligent you think we're smart you think we're intelligent you think we're brilliant you absolutely right but if you listen to this podcast you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit you're right to it's the brilliant idiots podcast thank you for listening see you in