The Brilliant Idiots - Holy Tres

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

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Yep, Shalameen the guy. Andrew Shull. We're all the brilliant idiots podcast, back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Listen, this episode is all about asking idiots, man. You know, Andrew is in Australia. Technically. Technically, shooting Street Fighter. You saw last week he was getting the extensions put in his hair.

We're looking luscious right now. Yeah, so we just wanted to, you know, put some things in the can for y'all. And, you know, y'all send so much asking idiots that we don't never get through in an episode. So why not devote a whole episode to Ask an Idiot? Y'all seem to enjoy that last week when we did it. So let's do it now. X-O-C-I-B says, as girl dads, what's the best advice you could give Taylor about raising a son? What kind of question is that?

What would we know? Exactly. What would we know? We're girl dads. What advice would we have? I can't give Taylor advice on raising a son. I don't have one. I've never raised one.

I thought he was about to ask what advice would you give. tale about just raising a child. Yeah, but you want us to tell how to raise a son. I give it the same advice. I give everybody, man. Just love your child, man, which you're already going to do naturally. Just love your child. You know, give your child grace.

Understand that they're just children. And that's it. I think that's actually the biggest problem we do with kids. We approach kids from an adult perspective, not remembering they're wild young and having lived the life we've lived, don't have the information we have.

don't have the education we have. Like, sometimes you ever looked at the three, and be like, what's wrong with you? You don't know no better? And she's like, no. I don't actually. I just got here. You know what I'm saying?

Can I have some grace, please? Exactly. I think you could tell as a girl dad, for someone raising a son, just try to teach your son to look at these girls or young women as people first, right? Because we all know how it was as guys. You see a girl, oh, you know, she looks like this,

she looks like that. They're people. and you're acutely aware of that when you're a... When you're a girl, dad. Right. It's 100%. You know, you're like, there's a lot going on here outside of... Like, for example, you see a group of girls, right?

They're playing basketball or whatever like that. Don't throw a dild on. Don't do that. Unless it's funny. And it's it... You know what I'm saying? Unless it's the WNBA game. If it's just a regular pickup game, don't bother them.

That's corny. But if it's a televised WNBA game, That's hilarious. That is hilarious. But you have to be willing, son, to know you're not getting the credit for it because getting the credit for it is going to get you in trouble.

But if you're just wanting to make the world laugh anonymously, went to Dill To a Fly on the WMBA Corps. You're right, Chris. That was great advice. Great advice, Chris. You're a good girl, dad, man. You would be a good boy dad too. By the way, this podcast has matured a lot.

We have. Because back in the day, Chris would have said something like that and somebody would have just screamed out, gay! That is true. We would have said that to you. I thought it. Yeah.

But I agree with you as well. You guys are in the same boat, whether you say it or not. I am, man. The boat I'm in, I just don't even know if it's a boat. It's just a big yacht with a bunch of... My boat's taking on water. It's got holes. No, it don't.

Your boat does not have no holes in it, Chris. Cut it out. Why do you say it has holes in? Yeah. And raising two teenage girls is a lot. It is. I'll leave it at that. But it's not holes in the boat.

You're doing a fantastic job. I'm sailing. I'm paddling. I'm doing all that shit. For you? You want the water? It's great. But I've gone to some things where...

You got one going to college, bro. What, yeah. Have you talked to your daughter about those things? Is it uncomfortable for you to talk about that? No, I would say the one biggest difference between me and my parents' relationship and my relationship with my daughters is everything, as far as I can tell, is 100% out in the open, discussed. Even, like, boy stuff? Sex, drugs, rocking.

roll everything. What about birth control? Absolutely. And when is that conversation? When do you have that conversation that like you should be on birth control? I mean, I don't want to put my daughter's business out there, but like, hypothetically. I mean, a kid in New York City? That's what I'm saying. Like they're, they start having it early. Right? That's what I would say. Yo, take that shit to your mom. I won't want to hit nothing to that. Yeah, I know Charlotte don't want to have any of those conversations. Hey, man. Did I say New York City? I meant the suburbs of New Jersey too, man. Oh, yeah, those girls were coming into the city too. I don't want to hear that shit. I'm with you though, Chris. I think the illest thing that I've learned how to do as a father, and I just did this in recent, you know, months, actually,

it's just, bro, you just got to let go. You just got to let go. You just going to scratch yourself out. You're just going to cause your cortisol levels to go through the roof. You got to let these kids, you know, live the same life that you did. My mom said some ill shit to me one time, man. It was a while ago. She don't even know that I remember this, but we were home in South Carolina. was a while ago. And I only remember which one of my children it was, but they were like going with my mom in some place, my mom and my sister somewhere. I'm like, where are y'all going? I'm, you know, I'm scratching. I'm like, where are y'all going? Who's going to be over there, blah, blah, blah. My mom was like, relax. She's going to be with the same people that,

you know, you was with when you was a kid. You're like, but in her mind, she's talking about her, my oldest sister. So I'm cool with that. In my mind, I'm like, we don't want that. Now, that's not what I want. But I get what she was. was saying overall. Overall, she was saying like, she's going to be, they're going to be fine. You know what I'm saying? And that's just what you got to do. You just got to realize that there's nothing you can control out here. Like, you got to really remember that serenity prayer. God grant me the serenity except the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference. There is nothing we can do except love our kids,

be there for them when we need us, give them advice when they ask for it and let the chips fall with him. Oof. Yeah. I know. Yeah. I know. Terrifying. I know, but what else we're going to do? Ooh, Kiwondo 36. Y'all got a lot of relationship. The marriage father questions. How do you create space for yourself while being a present father and husband? Pick up a sport, man, that you can say is exercise, so your wife can't really be upset that you're doing it all the time.

At Kiwondo 36, I hate to tell you, man. There is no space. You don't create space. When you're a father and a husband, all your spaces will be invaded. There's no such thing. As soon as you go and think you got a peaceful spot, somebody's coming. Right? There's no such thing.

Vacations isn't? No. No. It's all about kids. The moment you become a father, the moment you become a husband, it is all about your family. Now, you can find ways. to give your wife space, but even that only lasts but for so long, you know?

Yeah. She could go off and do her thing for a quick second. We don't really get that. Because even as men, when we think we're doing something for ourselves, we're not, we're constantly sitting around thinking, okay, what's the next play I need to make to make sure that my family's good forever? Oh, yeah, constantly.

Like, oh, my God, let me make sure I'm working out or, you know, keeping my health up, so I'm here for my kids, you know. Let me make sure I'm going to therapy, so I am, you know, emotionally and me. mentally where I need to be for my family. Like, there's no such thing as creating space for yourself when you become a father and husband.

If there is, please, somebody tell me. Is there, Chris? No. I mean, I think, you know, I guess people have man caves. But they come in. They're coming downstairs. No, you got to do it outside the house. You got to do it.

I mean, look, I went to L.A. the last couple days. But you went for work. Well, but maybe I could have knocked on. But maybe I was also, like, it wouldn't be bad just to get out for a couple days. True. Do some work. No, like, there is a version of this, like, it's important for both parents, which is like, you've got to fill your, you got to, what does it, put your oxygen mask on first

or whatever that's, right, and then you take care of the kid. You've got to, if you have no battery, you're going to be a worst parent, you're going to be a worse partner. So you have to at least fill yourself up a little bit. Keep in mind, you're going to have no time to do anything. Right. But in the little time that you do have, you got to find a way to fill that cup up quickly. So if that means, like, going on date nights, like my wife and I have a date night.

Right. try to make sure we're religious about that shit. That's smart. And half of the time, we're just planning stuff for our kid anyway. But it's, you know what I mean? It's just logistics. You're just constantly doing logistics. But at least you get a little time to fill each other's cup up.

And then I'll be honest, like working out. Like for me, it's playing paddle. For other people, might be hitting a gym, is hooping or whatever. But just having that thing that is your time that you can be stress-free during, I think, is- And don't beat yourself up over it. No. That's hard to not. For me, it's radio.

You're a truly present parent. If you're bullshitting, then beat yourself up over it. But if you're truly present. It's hard to not feel guilty, even if you're truly present. I'm not going to lie to podcasts and it's part of that space. Oh, of course. This is a band cave, bro. It just so happens.

We record this shit and give it to millions of people to listen to it. But I loved, I loved it. To coming here and just kick it for a couple of hours, bro. It's amazing. You know what I'm amazing. Like, just to get this shit off. This shit feel good, bro. The best.

You know? We're lucky we get to do this shit from a little. But yeah, start a podcast, KWandau 36. Yeah, make sure you can make money at your hobbies, and then your wife kind of has to support it. Right. Like, that's the key. Speaking of that, Adjurad 38 says,

what advice would you give to people who are trying to get after it, but they don't feel traction? It's not fucking horrors, bro. You need something with a little more grip. Yeah. Try to get after it, and, you know, you don't feel no traction. Yeah. That vagina too big.

Like, buying something that's got a little bit more tighter, rip, man. You know what I mean? I agree. I think that's a like a nun. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That's what you need, bro. Like, that's the problem. I don't know who you sleeping with, Adjured 38, but, bruh. Or maybe butt. If you don't feel no traction, ooh. Yeah, try butt.

Word, whatever city you and the butts might be tidied in the vaginas. That's a fact. Unless it's Atlanta. Other than that, yeah. Pretty much any place you go, you know, the butt's the tighter. That's what I would tell you, I draw 38. It's a tricky time now for people, though, in terms of getting traction in their career because... Oh, that's what he's talking about?

Yeah, I think maybe. Oh. Yeah, but like, sorry for Gerard of us trying to make it more interesting. But it's like there's not the typical steps there used to be. It's really you've got to be a self-starter. Like, if you're not the type of person that's willing to, like, figure it out and work yourself to figure it out, you almost got no chance now. Like, back in the day, you could, like, be part of a system and then get picked up. up by a network.

Like me in Charlotte did these MTV shows and then there was Comedy Central and then HBO and you get reused at the different shows and other opportunities. But now you really got to build it yourself and then maybe you'll get an opportunity to do like a movie and even the movie business is downsizing. Like the way you get traction is you relentlessly build it yourself and you got to use probably short form media in the beginning to build it. I was watching, you know, a podcast I enjoy watching back. salute to S.O. and Hineken.

They should have been on that complex list, by the way. But I was watching Bag Fuel and Mouse Jones was on there. My guy, Mouse, salute the nephew, Mouse. You know, that's family right there. I meant to call Mouse about this, but I saw them having a conversation about, you know, radio, New York City radio.

And, you know, you've heard Mouse say this a million times. Mouse was like, yo, these people got to get out the way. These people are old. They've been there forever. They're in the way. Blah, blah, blah. The younger generation, would be you.

Yeah. I don't necessarily agree with everything that y'all's saying in your outlook. Agreed. So what is your outlook? So we got to have it on two debates. On two sides. There is a part that specifically the media personalities and my peers that's of my generation, of my class.

So that would be the me, the Scotty Beams, the Jemir Pons, the Domitie Pongos. So many. So many. If I'm forgetting anybody named me, I know I really love y'all. I don't hate you. But it's a lot of us from that elk. where it's like Mia Bell, who's on New York City, like there's a lot of, Nila Simone,

there's a lot of people that should probably be in different positions, would probably be a little further ahead. But we competing against people that's been working since the day you turned the radio on. And what's wrong with you? And in any other job, any other place you would, yo, bro, y'all have been telling LeBron to retire

for three seasons. I've been telling Rapids to retire, but they don't. So why you don't have the same energy? I think the radio personality got a wave more hard. And it just made me think none of that rhetoric works anymore. None of that in the way rhetoric works anymore. And the reason it doesn't work is because there's too many other outlets and avenues for you to get hot, build your brand up, build your voice out there.

I mean, there's a million, there's about, there's literally, I'm not even exaggerating this, at least 100 podcasts that are hotter than radio personalities right? Yeah. So what did they do? All they did

was start their podcast wherever they were and grew an audience, right? Same thing with the YouTubers and the screamers like there's nobody in the way.

Like if you're sitting around and you're like, okay, that person's in the way you're not moving the way you should be moved. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because you could easily

build something that is bigger and better than what this person that's in the way is saying. And even when you're talking about the people

that's in the way, then people ain't even relevant no more. Yeah. I mean, it's like to Andrew's point there used to be a system, right? If you did this, then you graduated the next level. If you did that,

graduate the next level. That's right. And there was comfort and security in that. The downside of that is there were gatekeepers and it was real. You had to be able

to get into this institution or know this person. that is gone. Completely. Like, think about it. This room right now, we would technically be the gatekeepers, right? I personally,

I can't control a gate. Yeah. There's no gate. Even if I wanted to. Like, I don't think it's in any of our personalities. Try to do that. But even if you wanted to, you couldn't do it. By the way, Andrew, you've done it both ways.

When the industry was fron on you with comedy, what did you do? All right, I'm going to hit this stage, and I'm going to take these stand-up clips and I'm going to put them online. You know what I mean? And I'm going to be. build my career from that. Now, I don't know if you thought that it would turn into you sitting

up here getting a weave in your head and be on in a street fighter. But even now, it's hilarious, right? Because I remember not just, not just the, it started with you not getting roles. Yes. In Hollywood. And so you said, like, you know what? I'm just going to stick to my bread and butter, which is this stand up. Yeah. And I'm going to take this stand up, start presenting it on, presenting the people on YouTube. You take off. Now they come knocking at your door. Of course. It's the same thing. You think every fucking. media, from TV to radio to whoever, haven't reached out to Katsen not to do something?

Of course. You know what I'm saying? You think that, you know, when it comes to these podcasters, like, you think that all of these different platforms haven't reached out to them to do something. Like, when you build up your own audience and build up your own platform, these people that you were chasing,

or you thought was in the way, they come after you. Yeah. So there's no such thing, especially in media, as somebody being in the way. Yeah, there's no more. the way. No. You're the only, yeah, there's no more in the way, but at the same time, I do empathize

to the lies people who are like, it feels like a crap shoot. They're like, I just got to hope I get viral on TikTok. Like, YouTube isn't what it used to be in that. YouTube is now like old media in that you need a real following. Like YouTube views used to be easy to get. Now is hard. You can't just throw your podcast up on YouTube and then it gets views. You could throw a clip up on TikTok and it might go viral and get 50 million people watch it. But that's pure. luck. But TikTok is that like discovery app. And then Instagram is like you actually have a following and then you can build a community. And then YouTube is like when you're established, that's where you put your show. Yeah. And I wonder how much people, how much success would you think you have if you

weren't comparing yourself to other people's success? Because that's another thing too, right? Because you know, you can say somebody's in the way. But if you're actually having some form of success somewhere else, if you just compare it to where you were a year ago or where you were two years ago as opposed to comparing it to this person's whole career, maybe you would just be more satisfied and happy with, you know, where you are. And these aren't any shots at mouse. Mouss my guy, 100%. I love Mous. I'm just talking about the comments. Mouss has done what we're describing. Mouss has built a lot of stuff up from the group. Yeah, he's a self-starter. I'm not worried about Mous. That's what was interesting. I'm like, and I meant to call him about this, but that's why

I didn't understand the in the way. I also think there's a tricky thing with, like, older models of media. Like, for example, radio, I don't know if there's going to be a new 20-year-old radio host anymore. Matter of fact, I think, like, radio relies on the legacy talent because the audience that is still listening to radio is probably listened to them for 10 years. It could be, but the problem is the problem with a lot of, I wouldn't do this, but the problem with a lot of these older radio programmers, they have a way of, of wanting to do things. So they're going to go look at this 20-year-old kid who got this audience, bring him on the radio

and try to make him a radio personality instead of leaning into what this guy does. You know what I mean? Let this person do what it is that they do. You shut the fuck up and get out the way because if you knew what you was doing, then you would have created this motherfucker, okay? You didn't.

By the way, they don't even do a good job of that when it comes to radio personalities. Nobody predicts a Howard Stern. Nobody predicts a Charlemagne. Nobody predicts a Bobby Bones. You don't predict the Elvis Duran. It's just you put certain people on the radio. And by the way, this ain't even just for radio.

This is for any field. Yeah. You don't know what's going to make a person take off. You don't know who's going to become who. So that's the other thing you should think about, too. Can't say somebody's in the way. Because when you got a person and I'm, Tax Stone is coming to mind, right? When you have somebody, remember Tax Stone 10 years ago, we heard him, thought he sounded great,

gave him an opportunity, he took off. You can't predict who people fuck with. You can't predict that somebody would be fucking with Gilly and Wallow for the past almost, you know, eight, nine years. Same thing with drink champs. Who would have thought Norie drink champs for over the last decade would be one of the premier media platforms?

The kais and nets to the world, the eye show speech. When people fuck with you, they fuck with you. You can't predict why people fuck with certain individuals. Just don't get bitter. Just don't get bitter. That's what I would say. It's like you never know what's going to happen to you. Like you work every day your life to be an overnight sensation.

And I think it's very easy, like Charlemagne was saying, when, you know, you're comparing yourself constantly. Comparisons the Thief of Joy, whatever that's saying is. So it's easy to get bitter and just be angry at the success of other people, for their downfall, criticizing them, et cetera. It's like they're not in your way. They're not keeping you from doing what you need to do. And that position can't make you. Exactly. You could take a person, you could have took somebody and put them in, you know, that, that

breakfast club seat 15 years ago. They're not going to be me because they're not me. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Like you can't just take a person to say, I'm going to put you on this station from this time on these days and you're going to blow up. No. And also don't put a clock on it, which I think is a mistake.

A lot of these kids. Bro, that's the thing. I think a lot of people assume that even who've probably been watching this show that there's like this overnight success. Like the amount of time that both of us toiled in absolute obscurity before getting some success. is unfathomable. Like, yes, we had damn TV said,

and that's the thing, you'll get little pops. You know, you're going to get a video viewers, a sketch you make that goes viral or a show is going to do really well, et cetera, and then it might go back and down. And then eventually you're going to hit something, hopefully,

right? On wood, where, you know, you're out of here. So it's just years and years and years and years. Years. Look, I mean, this guy talks about traction, right? I didn't feel my first traction until 36. God damn. I mean, maybe that says something about me.

How much was it in Taiwan? What? Thailand. Yeah, what was that? I put that in the notes. What was that like? Lady boys are Thailand? Thailand, yes.

I go to Taiwan. How tight was it? You're telling me there's no lady boys in Taiwan. There are no lady boys in Taiwan. Could there be men who dresses women? Yeah, that's a lady boy. They're not called lady boys. What do you guys call them?

I don't call them anything, but I'm sure they have a name. But the phenomenon of lady boys is. So you didn't feel no walls until you was 38, Chris? 36. 36. Damn. Yes. And what was it?

For me? Yeah. Writing, do you with Russell Simmons. Why. Chris didn't feel no tight pussy walls till 36. He didn't feel him until he was writing, do you. It was like Russell Simmons. Okay, Chris.

That's what's up. How long did it take? How long did what take? For you to take off, man. What's wrong? Damn, bro. Come on, Chris. How did you know you was getting some motion?

Like, how did you feel it? Chris feeling that citrus. What was wrong? How did you know? How did you know you have motion? You can tell. How could you tell? Like, what happens?

You're selling this like Lyme disease, Chris. You really are. Come on, come on, I would have to buy and describe it. Yeah, I don't know, man. There's a different energy when you have a success under your belt, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a big book, though. Best seller.

Yeah, that was a big book. Let's go. That was a big book. People fuck with you. You can tell. And that's when everything changed for you. That's when everybody was like, okay, who wrote this? Got you, got you, got you, got you.

That makes all the sense in the world. Chris Fit, 0622 says, best advice somebody ever gave you. Ooh, Andrew. Ooh, best advice someone ever gave me. Whoa. That's a great one. Holy shit. I've got a lot of good advice in my life.

Best ever for. Best ever. But like, saying sorry. Yeah, my dad was like, yeah, just the importance of saying sorry, you know, just if you do something to somebody, you hurt somebody's feelings. Even if you didn't intend to do it, you still did that thing, like saying sorry, there's a lot of power in that. So I think that was huge for me. I've had a lot. My mom telling me to read things that don't pertain to me. That made me even more curious. I'm already a naturally curious person. That made me even more curious. If you want to see how other people are, going to bench you. If you want to see, if you want to see. see how other people are eventually going to treat you. Watch how they treat others. Yeah. That's a great piece of advice.

And my dad telling me, if I don't change my lifestyle, I'm going to end up in jail, dead, or broke sitting under the tree. You know? Did you change your lifestyle then? No. When did you decide to change it? When I actually went to jail for the first time and saw people around me actually getting prison sentences and seeing people around me actually die. Yeah.

And seeing people who I used to look up to actually be broke sitting under the tree. I'm like, oh, pops is right. Okay. Meaning like some guy who was like selling drugs or whatever. And then you saw him just kind of like. No, people that I used to look up to, like, you know, people that I used to look up to because they were just cool. You know what I mean? But they didn't do anything with their life.

And so they just, you know, ended up sitting in the most corner, you know, doing nothing. Yeah. So it's like, and they broke sitting under the tree. You can see it. Like, oh shit, you're possibly like, that person used to do this, that person used to do that, that person had the opportunity to do this, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, oh, this shit is real. So then what do you do? Like, literally that day, do you say, I'm going to change my life?

Yes, literally. And more importantly, I'm going to change my lifestyle. So I always had to wear with all to look and see what all of those individuals did or didn't do and do the opposite. Okay, what was the first thing to change? Get a job. Go get a job. job. So I have something to do instead of just hanging out in the street of Monk's Corner. Let me go find a job. And when I ended up working at a warehouse in Monk's Corner, it was called

Industrial Acoustics Company at the time. And then I started hanging out at the recording studio, never-so-deed recording studios with my guys, Professor Robert Evans and DJ Blessed. Then I started did telemarketing. Then I got the internship. Once I got the internship in the radio station, I changed everything. It was over. It was open because I had a place. to actually spend a lot of my time, and it was revolving around something that I actually loved. Right. Which was- What were you doing for money at that time, though? Working. I worked at telemarketing place. I worked at...

So you would have a regular job in the mall? And intern at the radio station. Absolutely. I had, like, three jobs at one time. Like I said, I worked at a clothing store in the mall, and I was doing telemarketing. And then you'd go to the radio station from what hour to what hour? Any time. Any free time I had, I was at the radio station. Literally, when I wasn't working, and I wasn't with my station. wife, when my girl then, I was at the radio station.

And would they let you on air ever? A couple of the guys did. Willie Will used to bring me on the air to talk. And that's how I ended up getting the opportunity to be on radio. Because Willie Will used to bring me on. And I remember the program director at the time, Terry Bay said, yo, your energy goes up when Charlemagne is in the room. And they were on white.

He was the music director. He was like, you just need to be on the radio. Have you ever thought about being on the radio? And what did you say? Yeah. I hadn't thought about it, but if you're going to give me the opportunity to try it, you motherfucking right, I'm going to do it.

Okay, so he says, you should be on the radio, you go, yeah, and then does he give you a slot? Do you become like a regular? He put me on Sunday mornings from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. for a couple of weeks. But it was voice track. So what voice tracking is when you go in there, you just record your voice, so you're recording the show, basically.

So I did that for a few weeks, but I was scaring all the church folks. So then he put me on Saturday nights, seven to midnight, and I was voice tracked seven to 10, but in 10 to midnight, he'd let me go alive. So voice track means you pre-record your thing

and then they slot it in. Yep. And then he let me go live, tend him in there. And then what happened when you went live the first time? It's the rush. You felt it. Probably the same way you felt when you first got your first laugh on stage. Why?

Are people calling you? People calling in. And they're reacting to what you're saying. That's right. They're reacting to what you're saying. You know, you're talking. And, you know, the thing about radio is like you got to learn, you got to learn the chops.

You got to learn how to actually be on air, not as a personality, but just the mechanics of the bowl. and all that stuff like that. But the personality part, nobody can teach you that. Yeah. So it's like, nobody ever taught me. Nobody ever said, this is how you're supposed to do radio. So I was on there talking like me.

So did people like the next week come up to you and be like, yo, I actually listened to you this night? When did you first start to feel like public? You felt it in the moment because you got to think, this is before social media. So people are actually listening to the radio and reacting in real time. And the only way they can react is by calling the radio stage. So the line was hot.

Yes, and I used to take a lot of phone calls. So it's like I would say something, answer the phone, and the person on the phone would be laughing at what I just said. You know what I mean? So it's not like they can get on Twitter and tweet. They had to call in. And I was relying so heavily on the phones. I was opening the phones up immediately to people getting that immediate response.

And then that turned into when the people would call, I would fuck with them and make jokes with them. And so it just took off. So, I don't even know how the fuck we started talking about this. What the fuck we started talking about this for? Best advice. Oh, yeah, best advice. So yes, yeah, change the, change of the lifestyle.

And when you change the lifestyle and you start to actually, you know, put yourself in positions to where you're not doing the same dumb shit that you were doing, things just seem to open up for you. Yeah. And that's what, that's what happened? So those, that's the best advice I got. Hmm. What's the next one? What's that name?

That looks Asian, Chris. What is that? Or Polish. Can. Can I trust? Can I trust? How what you gonna do now? How did your views on spirituality and religion change through your 20s and 30s?

I recall you being an atheist, Andrew. I don't know if I was ever like an atheist, but my views on religion is definitely changed. Like I wasn't ever religious growing up. I didn't like hate religion or anything, but I think I've become much more like open and understanding of the importance of it. and the influence of it even on non-religious folks. So, yeah, I don't know. I think that actually happens as you get older, kind of like reflect on the absurdity of your life.

Yeah. You know, you're just like, God, how did all these things happen? How did I get these people in my life? How lucky is that? You know, so you almost like hope there's something else out there, you know? Yeah, I've always been spiritual. I've never, I was religious when I was young, just because my mom was Jehovah Witness, grandma's was a Baptist,

but I just always been spiritual. And I just always believed in a higher power. I just didn't believe that that one higher power would create all of these different religions. You know what I mean? So you're a Christian, you're Jewish, you're a Muslim, but y'all all worship me. That never made any sense to me.

And the older I get, too, I just be reading a lot of these stories, a lot of these stories in the Bible. It don't even make sense, man. I told you all this a million times. Adam and the Eve were the first man and woman. They had Cain and Abel. And they got married to some other people.

Cain killed Abel and went off and found a wife. Where? I thought it was only four people on the goddamn planet. You know? And the Jesus thing? What do you mean? Eh? Mm. What do you mean?

You don't get the same. I don't like the whole, you know, I died for your sins. Why? Because if I was Jesus, I'd be looking down like y'all really think I died for y'all to act like that. Y'all really think I died for y'all to act a goddamn fool the way y'all act. Actually, they killed me. They dragged me to a cross, hung me up on it, and now y'all walk around wearing my most excruciating moments on this planet around your neck.

Yeah, that's got to be. And if I wanted that to happen. I think the idea was that we were always going to be fuck-ups. So he died for our sense so we could go to heaven. But we were always going to be fuck-women. I would never let y'all in. There's no way that I'll watch y'all on this planet doing what y'all doing and then just invite y'all with open arms to heaven when it's all said.

I don't know better. That's what he's saying. It's like, you can't help yourself. Okay, let's talk about that then. You ain't going to come in here acting like that. I'm giving you the opportunity to get right while you're there. Yeah. Because you ain't coming up in here acting like that. Well, that's what he's doing.

And we fail in miserably. Yeah, but if you follow him and you let him into your heart, then hopefully he'll be a guided light to lead you to heaven. If I was Jesus, I wouldn't want to be in none of our hearts. I know, they say God knows your heart. Yeah. I know your heart. That's how I know I would never have died for somebody like you.

getting to heaven, bro. I don't know about you. I don't know. Chris, Chris, you don't want to go to heaven? It's very strange. It's not strange, but to grow up, to feel zero connection with Jesus in America is always like a strange thing. You feel zero? Zip. What about when something crazy happens? What do you say? Bagels. But no, God and Jesus are two different things, though. God and Jesus are too different things. Right. God and Jesus are too different things. God and Jesus are not the same entity, which I never Well, I don't feel like next to God either, like specifically Jesus. I can remember going to my mother very young. I grew up in a Catholic neighborhood predominantly and everything was Jesus, Jesus.

I said, who's that fucking Jesus? And my mom was like, well, Jews believe that Jesus was a great man, but he was just a man. So who was God? I created this great man. And y'all worship him, but not me? It made sense to me. I was like, he was probably a really great guy. And the poor Holy Ghost, they, that his brand.

in marketing had been terrible. Yeah, he got to get some love, man. We got to give the Holy Ghost some love. But the Holy Ghost is now we're really getting into these gymnastics. We're trying to make some shit. None of it makes sense. None of it makes sense. That's my, now we're talking.

I wish I knew more to argue for. There's nothing to know. It doesn't make sense. It's actually blind faith. Well, this is what a Jew and a Muslim would say. I'm not a Muslim. You know, but us Christians understand the Holy Trinity and how all those things are Why aren't you a God did?

Say again? Aren't you a Godin? Don't, are you trying to catch you? No, I'm just simply saying. Why is it Christian? Shouldn't it be about God? Well, God is Jesus. No, he's not.

It's the Holy Trinity is God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. Yeah, they're all one. They clearly say Jesus is God's son. They're all one. He also says he is the Lord. And I think incarnation is what makes him. Once again, contradiction. The Bible says don't worship anybody else besides me.

God. Because they are the same. So the Holy Trinity is Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit. It sounds like a trans discussion. I'm not. It is. Actually, it's a good analogy. It just sounds like, come on. This don't make, y'all understand that, but don't understand trans? Listen. Like, seriously. God forgives you, bro. I know he does. No, I think that they can understand one trans. It's not all these. I believe in God. Yeah. I believe in Jesus being God's messenger. Yeah. I don't know where the Holy Ghosts. comes into play because the only time they even talk about the Holy Ghost is when you're in church

and somebody's doing the Harlem Shake. So I just don't understand any of it to be totally I don't know enough about the Holy Spirit, man. I got to. Well, let me ask you this. Holy Ghosts. Holy Ghost. Is it the Holy Ghost? Yeah. Can you, I consider myself a spiritual person. Me too. I don't believe in God. So what is the spirit? I'm not sure. That's what I'm curious. So maybe you do believe in God. It's just not this one entity. Is it Buddha? Not Buddha. No, you just have like a Judeo-Christian idea of God and you're like, say again? I don't think so. Meaning, that's what you think God is, therefore you don't believe in it.

But if God could be omnipresent, if God could. I think there is some sort of force. I just don't think it's a God or. You just don't know if it's coming from a dude with a staff and a beard. I know it's not. I'm not saying that. I never thought they had a staff in a beard, but I do feel like there is just a higher power. Like, whatever you want to, you know.

Is there, though? Yeah, it has to. be. Like, because we can't explain none of this, though. We can't explain nothing about us. We can't explain. Maybe this is all just a fucking random accident. Whoa. Nah, it's a hell of an accident, Chris. I don't know. Maybe. I mean, I don't believe that, though. I believe that's a hell of an accident. It is a hell of an accident. This would be the greatest accident of all the time. It hasn't been a better accident. Why hasn't it been better accident? You believe that this was an accident, but COVID is real?

Like, you want to talk about mental gymnastics. Like, clearly you guys started COVID. You don't believe that. But you're like, there's no way that God exists. Come on. And a lot of things are really perfect. Like, you think about us? Outstanding.

You know, you know, when I feel a presence of a God or higher power? I do. Say again? Music. Music. The sweet sound of a lady boy's nuts slapping against your shabby. Every time. To that point, though, I feel God nor are in sex.

If you are really one with a person and really in love with a person, and just think about how to time, think about we've conceived life. Yeah. We've made love to our wives and conceived life. That is God. You guys have made love to your wives and conceived life. I made love to my wife and then later went to a doctor to get some help. That's God, though.

That's God, though. That's God. Who's going to create the doctor? Why do you just... What the doctor? The Lord works a mysterious... What the... What? What? I got my hair up, bro.

Come on. He's vulnerable. I believe in God. I don't want nobody to think I don't believe in God. I believe in Jesus. It's a messenger of God. I also believe that God's seen other messengers here. I just never understood. That whole I died for your sins thing. Yo, we are doing a terrible job of, you know, of, of, of, of, of, of. You stop sinning? No, I guess, but we're doing a terrible job of, of letting, of, of letting. God live that life.

Give his life for us. Get in here. See, speak of God. Speaking of God. Speaking of God. Wow. Wow. Wow. Shy low.

Wow. Where's my little chicken? Be shy. Whoa. That is your twin. Whoa. That is your twin in. Yes.

Look at my hair. Please don't look like Andrew. Wow. This is the first time she's seen it. Oh, my God. She's trying to figure out if that daddy. She was like, I'm not sure. Right, who's that?

She was like, who is there? I'm here. I'm here. Hello. How are you? How are you? How are you? She's like, I think that's dad.

Hi. Wow. How about beautiful? Wow. Hi, my. Okay. We had to take a break because God did just intervene. See?

In the form of Shote's beautiful daughter. See? You know? So that was God's way of letting us know. He's out there. am here. By the way, I believe in God. I'm not sitting there and saying I don't. We're going to get Chris to be a believer too, man. No, I believe, I believe in Jesus too. I'm just thinking if God made man in his image according to his likeness, right?

Then of course he would make Jesus that way. If I looked down right now and I was Jesus and saw the way we was acting, I wouldn't even claim that I died for y'all. I ain't for y'all to act like this. Right. Well, the worst we act, the more we needed him to die for us, right? No. He only dies to the sinners of the believers, though, right? I don't see? Exactly. Jesus is up there like,

I don't even know who I can sin for them to figure it out. You know what I mean? Shout out to Jesus, though. We appreciate your... They could have sent you, man. By the way, God could be working through you, but... That is true. I'm about to say, Jesus, we appreciate your sacrifice.

You know what, I would believe the story of Jesus a little bit more if he hadn't been killed. Well, he needs to be to die for everybody's sins. the ultimate sacrifice. God sends his own son down here to die for our sins. So why was he fighting when they were taking him to the cross then? He wasn't. Yes, he was. He came back willingly. No, I'm talking about when they was taking him. He dragging him to the cross. He was the one to drag the cross up there. Huh? He dragged it on his back while they're spitting on him. Because they made him. They made him. He came back into town on the donkey, badass. Like,

what's up? I'm fucking shit up. And someone else helped him carry that cross at some point. No, see, I know that's not the story. You guys. You got to carry your own cross, Miles. No, there was some character. You got to carry your own cross. Yeah, and some character that helped him. Imagine helping Jesus carry his cross and nobody can remember your name. God, damn.

I'm going to be honest with you. Mark taught me about all of this four days ago. Mark Gagganon? Yeah. He looks like Jesus. I know. A legend. DeVout Catholic.

Shout out to Mark. Now, Mark knows a lot. So does Shifty, man. Shifty knows a lot, too. I was reading Mark's baby's book about the Bible. And I was like, oh, this is all fascinating. Mark wrote a baby book about the Bible? He bought one for his job.

Oh, I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Listen, shout out to God, man. Citizens don't get enough credit, too, because, like, they became the dominant religion, so you forget about what they went through to become the dominant religion. But, like, they were persecuted, like, crazy. And through the sex cult, they were called that. They were called a million different things. But, like, through that, they were still benevolent and kind and helping the people.

They were ostracized by society. And they just... Say again? For a minute. For a minute. For hundreds of years. Chris has got to drop the whole, you know, uh... I'm just saying they paid the cost to be the boss.

Not really. Sunday did. It wasn't. No, no, no, I'm saying they should drop the whole can get forgives for our sins thing. But that's the point. Then why else did he die? That's the bottom one. Because it's no rule.

If I can get forgiven for my sins, I just do bullshit. Like, oh, forgive me. You know what I'm saying? Get rid of that. And then I'll take you a little bit more serious. Because they got so much confidence in the source. They have so much confidence that if you believe in this. guy you live a life like him.

What about confidence in yourself, though? Have the confidence in yourself to know I'm going to do right to the point that I don't even need for my sins to be forgiven. There is no confidence in itself. We're born sinners. That's the problem. We're born to do these fucked up things. I guess, man.

I don't know. I really don't know. God bless all the... I don't either. Don't let me be this book. God bless all the religious people, all the spiritual people. Just find God the best way you know how. I always break down GOD is gain your own definition.

you know just gain your own definition of what you think God is because there is definitely something bigger than us but I know we just pissed off all the Christians no I don't think so they shouldn't be you shouldn't judge forgive that fault remember that part forgive us I think if I think if that conversation pisses you off then it uh reveals that you might not believe as much as you do or that you're a scholar like you're mad that you oh yeah you could be upset of us just getting things wrong but if you truly believe the word, then you shouldn't be upset if people don't believe it yet because then we're just foolish.

Yeah. You know, that shouldn't make you angry. Or they're worried. Or they're worried that it could. Right about what? Motivate other people to not believe. I mean, I have a lot of born-again Christians in my family.

When I was a kid every year, I would get a Bible with Jesus's words highlighted and read. And I was like, stop giving me that shit to me. Like, this is my Christmas present? Like, this is what you're going to give me. And my aunt was like, I love you and I think you're going to go to hell if you don't accept. Damn.

Fire. What a sweet thing to do. I guess. I think you're going to go to hell if you don't marry that man. I don't know if she was married to that, I'm just saying. She is. Okay. But there's the people all going to tell you that you're going to hell, but they got their own shit that they're doing.

I think she was sincere. I think she really believed it. Yeah, I don't mind when people proselytize because in a way it's like they're just looking out. Okay. Well, let's talk about this then. What makes somebody guaranteed to go to hell? Right? Because if the Bible forgives all the sins, for the most part,

But it forgives all the sins. I believe in a false prophet. But it says forgive all the sins. So what sins is unforgivable? The sins are forgiven once you accept Jesus is your Lord and Savior. But they're not forgiven before. You don't just get forgiven anyone. What if you're gay?

And you accept Jesus is your Lord and Savior. You go to heaven. Not according to the Bible. Yes, according to the Bible. The Bible says being gay in an abomination. Yeah, but so is cheating on your wife for covenant. thy neighbor's wife or all these other things. But what about give it, but you have to give up the dig, though?

What if you don't want to give up the dick? You have to try. Yeah. God, dang. What if you get there and you say, but God, you made it? Made it. It's fucking delicious. It was amazing.

Then you start breaking it down the way Hunter Biden broke down crack. It's like in soup. You know what I'm saying? What I'm supposed to do? Not nibble at all? Listen, I believe in God. I want all of us to get to where we're supposed to go. I'm just questioning some of the stories that have been told

to us over the years. It's good to question. You don't think that Christians been questioned for the last few thousand years? Like, they're used to the questioning. And it's still persevered. So, like, I don't think questioning is even disrespectful. I think questioning gets you either closer to this source

or close to something else. But, like, it's not so fragile. I think that's something I see that Christians, like, sometimes they're so angry at people question. It's like, guys, it beat everything out. It did. It's like, everybody's been asking these questions for this long, and it's still here.

It's still the dominant of religion. People still believe. People still believe. So it's like, let's, let's be it. Let them question it. It's very dominant. You don't understand how dominant is until you're not part of it. Christianity?

Yeah. It's the year 2025. Somebody made that joke. I think it was maybe Louis C.K. But if you want to know which religion won, we're living in the year 2025. Anything before is before Christ. Is that true? Yeah.

AD is after death, BC. At a Dominus. I forget about BC. Did you do BCE, though? Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course. man oh jesus anyway shout out jesus man yeah shout out to jesus man i'm not gonna lie to i was sitting in my backyard and i got that revelation which one because i was just like yo jesus died for all i said

and our voice was like no i did not and i'm not even joking and then it had this whole thing in my head about i got killed i didn't die for y'all to be down there acting like that yeah now i was on the edible but it does not take away from the fact that that's what that's what i heard okay but now this is an interesting point because he could have been dying for the sins of was happening in that region at that time. Ooh, not everybody. What? Ooh.

Now, that's fire. What if everybody adopted it and took it worldwide, but he was only for that one region? He was like, yo, I was just talking about them eating shellfish or whatever. I'm not talking about these motherfuckers that eat jellyfish on the regular. Like, that's weird. Like, I don't know. I was not talking about you child fuckers. Yeah.

Like, what are you talking about? You might be right, man. You know, you know It's nothing Forget it It's nothing It's just a funny premise Somebody told me that I can't share

It's too bad It's crazy How you get long hair All of a sudden you Jesus Yo, that's a good That's crazy Yo That's a good ass point

Shout out to the man Yo Israel Undescore Ramirez 12 Y'all opinion On the 20 verses one debate First of all First of all If you want to know

God exists Why the next question Literally come from Israel Damn No that's not Israel It's Israel underscore Ramirez 12. Yeah. Yeah.

No, Ramirez. Well, yeah. That's a defaulted name. Yeah, I mean, we're going to get them out of here. Oh, got you. Got you. Got you. Got you.

Got you. Got you. Got you got you. Did you watch it? Versus 24. I watched clips of it. Yeah. They asked me to be on a, what a, Jubilee, right?

Yeah, they asked me to do a 20v1. They asked me too. And I'm like, what am I debating you guys on? Yeah, what were your topics? I'm like, what are we debate on? They gave me like four or five topics. I'm just, be honest. I love to enjoy it.

I like watching the show. Yeah. I just don't want to put myself up to that. Like, I just don't see. I also just don't want to debate you. Like, I want to have some fun. Like, yeah. Like, yeah.

I like, I mean, I thought Medi handled himself correctly. Yo, Medi, yeah, Medi did. It's just, you're looking at, like, the most distilled version of, like, infotainment when, like, information and, like, politics becomes entertainment. Yeah. And it's a great. concept like for a show, but it is sometimes it's a little disappointed, man. You're like watching

some of the arguments these kids are making, you're like, wow, this is the, this is what happens when you're caught in the YouTube algorithm. Yeah. And, uh... It's not their fault, though. Why, why not? Because they are getting fed a lot of misinformation, which is why I constantly tell people, I thought

what Medi did was good because you should do that. When people who just goes on Fox News or when, you know, different people go on different platforms, if you're seeing somebody spew misinformation, information and you know they're not getting the, you know, the truth or the facts. Why don't you go on that show and give them the truth and the facts? I agree. I just think that like now you're watching the show turn into like, it's like,

this is the most extreme. Like there's one kid who's like, yeah, I'm a fascist. And I was like, okay, I guess we can have those conversations. But he don't know what fascism meant. He clearly didn't know what fascism meant. I thought he did. I saw that clip. I got to take, I got the sense that he didn't understand what fashion. How would Conner's America look? What would it look like? Well, quite frankly, I think we would deport people who shouldn't be here? I didn't ask you what do you board. What does the government look like?

What does the government look like? Yeah. I would say quite frankly, it's under a sort of benevolent leader such as, you know, where does he come from? It could be a kind of aristocratic class, could be someone who picks the autocrat. No, but who picks the order. I mean, we could hold a vote on it. Kings were paid.

Isn't that democracy? Well, sure. You can have a vote to get to that state. And then no more votes afterwards. Absolutely. Well, 100%. Wow. And if that autocrat kills you and your family, you're fine with that.

Well, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not going to be a part of the group that he kills because that's a whole thing. How do you know? How do you know? Artocrats tend to kill everyone, even their own supporters. Carl Schmidt makes this point very well in his work. It's the friend-enemy distinction, right? You liberals.

The Nazi theoretician. Yeah, absolutely. I don't care. Are you fan of the Nazis? I don't care. I frankly don't care being called the Nazi at all. I didn't say that. I didn't actually say that. I said, are you a fan of the Nazis?

Well, they persecuted the church a little bit. I'm not a fan of that. What about the persecution of the Jews? Well, I mean, I certainly don't support anyone's human dignity, being assaulted, I'm a Catholic. But you don't condemn Nazi persecution of the Jews? I think that there was a little bit of persecution. We may have to rename the show,

because you're a little bit more than a far-right Republican. Hey, what can I say? I think you say, I'm a fascist. Yeah, I am. Absolutely. I'm just checking who's clapping, just to get my set of where everyone is on this. Because you know that millions of people

are going to be watching you on YouTube and checking out who the fascists and the Nazis are. I'm not just. ashamed of that whatsoever. No, clearly you're not. During the pre-war period, prior to World War II, it was only those parties that properly enacted the people's will. That's why they won. The conservatives were fat cats. Are you in favor of killing people who aren't like you? Quite frankly, I'm not if they... You mentioned Franco earlier. Franco killed a lot of innocent people. Oh, well, he killed communists. He killed people who raped nuns and killed priests. What about

children who he killed? What are you talking about? He never killed any women or children. He was he was captive, dude? He only killed combatants. Is that what you were claiming now? He only killed combatants. Never killed any innocent. The white, the white terror was only punishing those people who did acts of terrorism. And again, are you supporting like raping innocent women nuns, dude, killing priests? I mean, priest still brandished guns and kill people. You just refused to condemn the Nazi Holocaust, my friend. I don't think you're in a position to ask anyone, any questions. I quite frankly, don't care what you think about me. If I'm a Nazi and being a Nazi, and being a Nazi, and being a Nazi means upholding human dignity, because I even believe in your dignity. I don't,

in a state that I was running, I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to you or anything like that. But quite frankly, I don't debate fascist. But everybody, listen, it's free speech. Like, everybody should have a right to their opinion. I guess you will want to make sure, and I haven't seen the whole thing, so I could be speaking an answer here. But like, you want to make sure that there's like a balanced argument against what Medi is

presenting because if it's just the most extreme argument against what Medi's presenting, we're like, yeah, we should just live in a Christian fascist country or whatever it is, like a Theo fascist, what is a theocratic? You can't call yourself a fascist and believe in free speech. Well, I guess my point is they will sacrifice that to make the change. change they want. I guess what I'm saying is that you actually do a disservice to addressing Medi's argument. Like I want to hear Medi's, I want to hear Medi argue against somebody who's really smart, but also has a reasonable position that's the opposite. I don't want it. It's Medi goes,

hey, we should get rid of immigrants and everybody's like, how about this place is only white? It's like, that's not to me a helpful argument or one that I'm trying to like learn both sides of. That would be my criticism. You want nuance, but nuance doesn't get. I want I want to, nuance doesn't get clicks. Like, I want two,

I want two reasonable positions. I want someone saying, like, immigration is better, and then someone saying immigration is worse. And then both of those positions, by the end of it, I want both those people to be like,

listen, my opponent made good points. I see where he's coming from. I don't agree. Yeah. Not simply, I'm going to write you off as a fucking, you know.

By the way, I agree with you and I agree with Miles, but I, nuance does get clicks. Because a lot of these takes that we hear from people are nuanced because it's the way

that they're looking at it. It just doesn't mean that it's right. You know what I mean? I hear what you're saying. It's not like, yeah, it's not like, yeah, I get what you're saying. Like, we listen to these podcasts. We do podcast. All of this is nuance, right? Like, you know what I mean? But what happens on these 20v1s, there is no nuance. You've got people that clearly know what they're talking about and people who don't. At least that's the way they've casted it. Yeah. And the most extreme opinions are going to be what gets the clicks, not the most, like, thoughtful

conversation. Yeah. Like, if you believe something that I disagree with, I want to hear. or why? Yes, yes. In a smart way. In a smart way. The problem is that, like, people, we can't really, like, distill between, like, cheap views and expensive views. And by expensive views, I don't really mean, like, I guess a view is a view, but, like,

it's easy to get views if you just say Nazi shit. Like, Kanye can come out and do a song as like, Hale Hitler and, like, it gets, but it's just cheap views. Expensive views are, like, a nuanced conversation about a topic between two sides that both offer reasonable positions. And that's harder to get people to listen to. That's a tough thing to get people to listen to. Just saying the most extreme shit

that will never exist in reality is very easy to get people to watch, but they're not watching to learn. They're watching the car crash. And you're surprised at how much stuff is just surfaced, right? Like when I did Laura Trump a couple of weeks, you know, she played a clip from me from Mondani. And Mondani was basically talking about defunding the police,

but he was actually talking about it in the nuanced way, not just the phrase. It's easy to take the slogan to fund the police and say, they want to take money away from police departments and they want to take away cops. But he was breaking it down like, no, defund the police and refund social services. That's another slogan that they need to get rid of, right?

Defund the police. But he said it, refund social services. Like, you know, whenever people have these conversations about defunding the police, what they're talking about is just take some of that, those, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars, that are being put into the police departments and put them into things that can actually make

our community safer. Like, you know, he was on a breakfast club and he talked about pairing, you know, mental health professionals with police officers, because that's what you need sometime. Like, if I'm a police officer, I'm not equipped to go out there and deal with somebody who's having a mental health crisis. And then, you know, because I fear for my life, this person might attack me. I shoot them. I kill them. You know, now it's a big, a big controversy. When the reality is pair them with people who actually do that work so you can prevent, you know, some of those type of things. And also, man, put money in those communities to give these kids something to do. Like, you know, these kids are going to resort, you know, the crime and other things if they

don't have, you know, community centers, if they don't have access to trade school, if they don't have, you know, food in their stomach. Like, I completely understand him when he says, you know, refund social services. That's the thing that we need to hear. Yeah. And I, by the way, I think a lot of people agree with that, but not at the deficit to our police force. I think you probably can do both. I want police officers to make more money. Like, you know, if, if these, uh, uh, police departments are getting billions and billions of dollars. It's not even going into the police officers' pockets most of the time. So where is it going?

So if you're spending all this money on the police departments and you're militarizing the police, what are you doing that for? Maybe if you put more money in the police officer's pockets, maybe some of it will be happy. Another conversation that we've been having is like, you know, we talk about pairing police officers with mental health professionals. What about police officers mental health?

Police officers are human too. They're dealing with all types of issues. Sometimes they have to go out and go into these communities and they might be projecting the pain and the hurt that they're feeling onto other people abusing their power. So, you know, I think that there is a way to, you know, please all parties in that situation. But we've got to start talking about what the root, you know,

causes of these problems are. I think we get too caught up in slogans and we end up, you know, arguing about things and nothing ever gets solved. To me, that was, that's perfect. Like, don't even focus on the defund the police part, refund social services. And so I'm explaining to her and I'm like,

yo, all he's simply saying is these police departments, especially in places like New York City, have these bloated police budgets, you know, multi-billions of dollars go to the police departments but no money actually goes to actually solving the root issues in the community that are causing crime

to happen in the first place. So you should take that money, put it into more mental health initiatives, put it into trade schools, make the schools better, make the libraries better, give these people in these communities something else to do

so they don't resort to crime. And then I said, oh, and also when it comes to social services, give the police, mental health resources. Police got to deal with a whole bunch of, you know what police need? Police need mental health resources,

and I think police need more pay. If I was a police officer, I'd be mad that the department is getting these billions of dollars, but meanwhile, we're not getting more that money in our pocket. I'm pissed off every day. I go to motherfucking work.

100%. You know, having to deal with y'all curse me out, tell me to suck my dick, blah, blah, blah. That's a hard job, and I'm barely making ends meet. Yo, think about the cop that got killed at the shooting. A couple weeks ago. What was it?

Bangladesh, you guy. What was the name? building, though. Blackstone? Black Rock. No, no, black stone. Blackstone. The cop that got killed was doing security to make more money. Oh, they're off the moonlight. But that's my point. They moonlight. They have to do overtime. They shouldn't have to do these things. And a lot of them, to be honest, like, they can't afford to live in the neighborhoods they police. That should never be the case. What the fuck. That should never be the case. You know what I'm saying? You should live in the neighborhood you police, honestly. Like, that's what we want. Two-fifty a year. You know how

How great the candidates they'd be getting? Oh, my God. Exactly. I mean, exactly. Fight for that? Yeah, you'd be getting fantastic candidates. That's a nuanced conversation. If I'm Mundani, that's what I start saying as well.

But I would never say defund the police because I think it just has such bad optics. What I would say is we need to increase funding to social services. We need to increase, like, stop acting like you're- I'm trying to find these catchy slogans. Yeah, it's like, don't take it away. One of the slogan is there's no nuance in it. Exactly. There's no nuance in a slogan.

So you use it, you got to own it. Exactly. That's right. He learned that. And I think, yeah, I think you know. No, he has it because he keeps saying defund the police. Well, he's got to stop. I think what he's trying to do is I think he's said some things like this in his past and he's trying to fix it now.

I'm not trying to fix it. He's basically trying to like straddle becoming mayor and making noise. How about just explain your position? But that's what I meant. That's why I bought that up. That's why I bought that up because you can be on a network like Fox, see defund the police and already believe you know it. that means and just dismiss it. But the nuanced conversation of it is explaining, no, this is what I actually mean when

I say defund the police. But I would just stop saying defund the police. Don't say it. Then Laura goes, well, what about socialism? And that's when I bought up to what I say about, hey, man, Democrats come up with all of these words for other shit, like pregnant people and stuff like that. So they need to say something else. And I think Mondani has done that by just simply saying affordability.

Yeah. And then I said, you know who else did a good job at that? Donald Trump. Yeah, of course. It's just the truth. It's just the truth to the matter. It's a master at it. So I think what happens on these shows right here, you have a Medi Hassan who first of all, I know what the hell he's talking about, number one.

Number two, understands the nuance to all of these conversations. And then you have 20 people who just believed the slogan. Yep. You know what I mean? You're right. Let's get rid of immigrants. Yeah. You're an immigrant.

Exactly. I'm an immigrant if you really want to get technical about it. You know what I'm saying? I'm first generation. That's my, exactly. You've been here longer than me. Yeah We're from the South

I feel like we were here the whole time Maybe I do You know that there's There's people who make that argument I believe that 100% I don't believe everybody Was bought over here

From slave ships There's yeah They say that they're Native Americans That are black Look at them Yeah I mean just look at Look at indigenous people

They look They came from Taiwan All right Everybody Everybody want to be down Everybody Everybody Everybody want to be down

Well Tell me guys Everybody want to be down Take a close look at it. You're talking about Lambridge? I'm talking about they're almost died out, but there were the indigenous tribes of Taiwan. A couple times ago when I was in Taiwan,

I went to, you know, they still have these villages. They're doing the historical dances. It's the exact same as Native Americans. The costumes were the same. The rhythms were the same. The people looked the same. I was like, that's your answer right there. Now, did they come across the land bridge?

that come across, dug out canoes across the ocean. I don't know. Everybody want to have a motherland. Everybody want their land to be the motherland. Asia is the motherland. Hey, hey, this is what people got to realize. Ain't no more motherlands. What you got now is what you got.

That's it. Sandy SS3 says, does Shannon Sharp even need ESPN at this point? It's a good question. I mean, it's a qualifier if you're speaking in the sports world. I feel like Shannon has kind of pivoted to the culture world, not moved away from the sports world. So I don't think he needs ESPN,

but it's a nice check and there's nice access. That's what I'm saying. $6.5 million a year is a lot of money to lose a 19-year-old Onlyfans, girl, bro. I need to know how much she got because she retired from Onlyfans the next day. He retired from fucking Onlyfans, that's crazy. Layed up.

I don't think, I mean, I don't think Shannon needs ESPN. And this is about what you're looking at. It's a $6.5 million check every year. He was working two days a week. You know what I'm saying? I don't think he needs it. I mean, he still goes viral and people still care about his sports takes.

You know, with Ocho. That's true. He got the show with Ocho. If I'm the ESPN, I just hire Ocho Sanko. Yo. Because then you still got... Culture. You still got someone sharing his audience.

You know what I mean? I don't know if Ocho would do. It's do it. Yo. But that would make sense. Diabolical. It's how old you think of. I mean, we say it's diabolical, but it's just like, eh, he channing it as himself.

Like, you know you work for the mouse, bro. You work for Disney. Yeah, you can't be. You got another move. Like, they got Johnny Deft the fuck up out of here. You know what I said? He made them billions. Billions.

You think they'd fire the guy that made you billions and he's not even guilty? You know what I mean? He's innocent. What the fuck? He didn't even pay her off. He didn't even pay her off. There's no settlement. He won.

But everything that came out of court. The mouse got him the fuck out of there, bro. Got him the fuck out of there. Are they going to make more movies with Johnny? Not only did the mouse got him out of there. You know who else got him out of there? J.K. Rowling. What you mean?

He was Dumbledore. Right? Was he Dumbledore? Yeah, he was like Dumbledore's buddy or whatever. Dumbledore. Yeah. In the Harry Potter, like, origin story. Really?

It follows Dumbledore and then Dumbledore. So he was the bet. Now, what's the name of him? He was... I ain't never seen Johnny Depp in a Harry Potter movie. Grind... What is it? Grindlewald.

Grindlewold. Yeah, he was Grindlewold. Yeah. But they are... Maybe. You know, there have been rumors that Johnny Depp might be making a return to the Pirates of the Caribbean. I mean, if he does, we're all pulling up.

Yeah, and he's shooting another movie with some of my people. Who? I don't want to say, because I don't know if it's been announced yet. They love the can't see. They've got them at a discount, huh? That's a business model right there. You get a motherfucker canceled and then you hire him for pennies on the dollar.

That's genius. Yeah, I don't want to say because I don't know if David Dawson. But yes, definitely I've heard about him returning the Pirates of the Caribbean. But Johnny Depp's going to work again. He's Johnny fucking Depp. I'm just saying Disney did wash their hands with him

at the time. Disney did that shit to James Gunn. We forget about the fact that James Gunn James Gunn was fired for old tweets. For like joke tweets, like clearly joke tweets. And this was during the canceled Me Too movement, which everybody has forgotten the canceled movement.

Like, it's really funny how like once you, once history, once society changes, we completely forget what got us there. We forget what got us there. And then the reactions are often a, you know, overcorrection from what got us there.

But we forget about how fucked up it was to get us there in the first place. Like, James Gunn, obviously, like one of the greatest movie makers of all time, probably will go down to history, was canceled for joke tweets. And joke tweets.

After producing movies that made billions of dollars, a guy that clearly has a real sense of humor, a six sense of humor, but a sense of humor made jokes and got canceled. And now he's back as that. Shout out to D.C. Yeah. Shout out to D.C.

Yo. Shout out to D.C. for doing that. and reaping rewards from it. Let's go. To the guy who said, I'll marinate the chicken, then forgot. Hi, you're a Safeway PA announcer here. We've got pre-marinated meat,

so all that's left is pretending you made it yourself. John Garcia says, what is going to happen with the shake-up from Michael Parsons standing on business against the rich white man? I don't know. What's this? What's this? Well, Michael Parsons, Dallas Cowboys superstar.

Jerry Jones doing what? normally does, not wanting to say nobody. Now, I don't know, by the way, we're recording this a while in advance, but the last thing that happened was Michael Parsons asked for a trade because Jerry has been playing with his money. Jerry says he's going to go negotiate with Michael

Parsons personally. Michael Parsons is a once in a generational talent. Cut this shit, Jerry. I told you this shit when we were in fucking saying box, okay? Cut the motherfucking shit. Treat your players right. Do not let Michael walk out the door for nothing. He's not somebody you

would want to train. You don't just find a player like that any goddamn wear. Okay? This just popped up right now. So this might be old, but this, are you seeing this Johnny Mansell Gillie the Kid, Beef? I saw that. We said he's going to slap Gillie. He's like, set up the rough and rowdy, let's call it a day.

And then he goes, I love million dollars worth of the game, but that's the corny's shit I've ever seen my life. What do you call corny? Like, Kevin ain't never had one of these. I ain't going back and fork with you, Nick. Thank you, Jailant. Appreciate you, Jaling.

Love you, Nick. Look at the mic, yeah. Love you, Nick. Appreciate you, Jailin. Kim Newton never had one of these. Oh, John, he responded to that. Yeah. What do you say?

Yo, you're the kid. You made it be the biggest fucking loser the planet, talking like you fucking done anything on a football field. If I see you, just know I'm going to slap the fuck out of you. Trust. That's quite. Because Cam Newton left Jalen Hertz off his top ten quarterbacks list. I hear nothing but facts from Gillian.

As far as what? Cut it out. Now, one thing, I love you know, Gilly, my guy, 100%. But we're just talking sports here. We're going to stop fronting on Cam Newton just because you don't got a super bowl. Cam Newton is one of the greatest, probably, probably. you can debate probably greatest college quarterback ever and had tremendous success in the NFL.

He went to the Super Bowl, got an MVP. Like, have you... Cam Newton is a once-in-a-lifetime generational star. That's what I wanted to talk. I'm glad we bought this up, because I was thinking about this the other day. We try to quantify the NFL the way we do other sports. The NBA is literally the only sport you can do the ring shit with, Joe.

Ooh. It's the only sport, and I'm going to tell you why. Yeah, that's interesting. Because it's only 12 players on the NBA team. So one player really can impact the team in that way. And five on the floor at a time. Five on the floor at a time. You can't do that in the NFL.

In the NFL, you can be as great as Cam Newton was and don't have the parts around you. So you're trying to tell me Barry Sanders isn't the greatest running back of all time because he never won a ring? So this is... He's not? Okay. Well, let's, let's have this conversation. I think this is really interesting. Does that then diminish the greatness of winning championships in football?

No, it doesn't diminish it. Jaylen Hertz has been to two Super Bowls, almost one, one the second. I think Jaylen's great. Why is he now a top 10 quarterback? I think Jaylen's great. I didn't hear Cam's argument. You mean top 10 of all time? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. It was the current list. He's not on the top 10 of. Of the current course. Quarterbacks in the league? Somebody dropped the list.

I don't know who dropped it. Who the fuck would say he's not top 10 current? He's definitely top 10 current. Top 10 all the time? I don't know. No, he's not top of the time. We're not saying. I can't believe that we're going to.

So what's the list? All right, let me look at me. I'm saying. I don't know Cam's argument. I don't know. I didn't hear Cam's argument. I didn't even get in the middle of this conversation until I heard. Also, Johnny's bigger than Gilly, but Gilly has hands.

Like, if it's an actual boxing match, I don't think Johnny wants that. I know Johnny's an NFL athlete. Don't get me wrong. Let's be clear. Yeah. You, Johnny getting jumped. Hey, no. Like, you know what?

Johnny, I know Johnny don't understand this part of life. You're not putting hands on Gilly, and people just going to sit around and watch you put in. No, he says, do rough and rowdy, the barstool thing. What is that? Where they do, like, the boxing matches. You're still getting jumped. If there's more than three Philly people in a venue, you're getting jumped. Gilly got a lot of love in Philly, man.

Gilly got a lot of love in Philly. Gilly got love out of Philly. There ain't nobody's sitting around watching Gilly get hands put on them in no way, shape, or form. Like, no, it's not happening. So what is this? Okay, Cam Newton's top 10 NFL quarterbacks. Yeah, you don't have Jaylon on there. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, Jan and Damiel, CJ's crowd, Justin Herbert Baker, Mayfield.

I mean, I would have to hear his argument. I'm just, if certain people say things, I'm listening in a different way. Look, number one and two, make perfect sense. Sure. I can't believe Patrick is three. I can't believe Patrick is three either behind Lamar and Josh. Patrick is still number one to me. I don't think the top four that disputable, maybe the order, but I don't think the top four that crazy, right?

I agree. He got Jaden Daniels over there over over. But I can't believe you're not going to put the guy who went to the Super Bowl once, won at the second time in the top 10. Maybe that's a mistake, bro. That could just be a mistake. It falls apart after seven or after six. You can even argue Stafford in the office.

I got, I mean, Jailen would be, I mean, if I was doing it with Jayland Hards would be in my top five, current quarterback. I think that's fair. Easily. I think Matt Stafford's a beast, though. That's the one thing right there, but. In event, like, he's been in the league in long time.

He's got more stats. But also, you could put Jalen in front of Joe Burrow. I got Jailen in front of. Joe hasn't taken you to a Super Bowl yet. I mean, Jaylon is not a classic fan. Yeah, so everybody's stretching the imagination. But he gets it done. And I think he's a leader.

He gets it done. Like, I don't know. I would have to hear Cam's argument, but I know one thing. All I'm simply saying is people can't front on Cam Newton just because he don't got a ring. By the way, have you ever met Cam Newton? He dresses like, uh, Dittie's assistant. Have you ever met Cam Newton? No, but impressive stature.

He don't even look real. It came. Like, I'm like, this motherfucker used to play quarterback? He's like Tecma bowl. Yes. Like, I'm like, this. He's built like Anthony Mason. RIP Mason, man.

RIP Anthony Mason, I always said the two people I've met in my life that are athletes, that I'm like, this is unbelievable. It's Anthony Mason and Cam Newton. They don't even look real. I've never met Shaq, so I don't know how Shaq looks at first. But these guys looked unreal. Like, Cam looks unreal. LeBron is daunting.

And Cam used to play quarterback. Yeah, it's crazy. Think about that. Imagine trying to tackle Cam Newton and you as a linebacker, defensive tackle this motherfucker bigger than you running you to fuck over i just i mean i just that's why he could dress like that like nobody's going to do it you know what i mean like you can't dress like that at 5-8 i think that there's nothing wrong with the way cam dresses either yeah i would say that if i'm i can't pull that off yeah i know you can't but when you see cam it works for him

that shit works for cam yeah it works for anybody 6-6-260 because none of us are going to do nothing about it we're going to say hey that's a great top act farm in san diego i love what you doing it. But none of us are going to actually say anything about it. I don't know, man. He looks crazy. I think that shit works for Cam, man. I don't know, bro. I think that there's a lot of revisiting. I mean, look at this shit right here. This is insane. You look like your grandma's sofa. What is this picture right here? That's wild. That's wild. He does. It's not the hat, though. No, it's the outfits. It's just the outfits. But I just think there's a lot of revisionist history when it goes into Cam Newton as an athlete. In football, you can't use the ring debate, bro.

To me. I think this is why Andre... So Calvin Johnson, not one of the greatest Y-Receivers of all time? Of course. Yeah, of course. Barry Sanders is not... When you talk, you're only discussing a few running backs is the greatest, bro. Can we just talk about the outfits for a second?

Bo Jackson never won a ring? But who dresses the best? Like, do you think Andre 3,000 left music because he realized he couldn't fuck with Cam? No, Andre can't fuck with Cam. I'll tell you that right now. He can't fuck with him. He can't fuck with Cam.

He can't fuck with him. He can't fuck with him. He can't fuck with his wardrobe, bro. He can't poke with Cam. Like, he can't poke with Cam. Cam, he can't poke the camp. I don't care what y'all say. He can't fucking cam.

I mean, golly. Like, if you put, if you even pull up the list of like the greatest of all times in football, a lot of those greatest of all times don't have rings. Damn, aren't. Yo. What are we talking about? I think, I think you make a good point. The question now is if football, because there's more people, you're playing less time,

like if you're an offensive player, you play half the game, maybe. If that's the case, do you take credit. away from their Super Bowl wins if they have it, knowing that they are less responsible for that win, i.e., are Jordan's six NBA victories more impressive than Tom Brady's seven? Because you could argue that he's only playing half the game. Yes.

Okay. Yes. But that's a hot thing. Seven Super Bowls is fantastic. Well, so the other way of looking at that argument is, since it's so much harder to get 12 guys together to win a Super Bowl, winning a Super Bowl is more difficult than winning an NBA championship. I give Tom Brady and the New England Patriots so much credit

because they went to nine Super Bowls in my lifetime. Crazy. And he won six of those. Then he went to another team, Tampa Bay, and won another one. He's an anomaly. But even with that, that's the reason we say Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time. But is he really?

Yeah. Yeah. Skill-wise? I think at a... Yeah. It doesn't matter. Yes, it does. No, because he's the greatest because he attracted the talent and he managed the talent

and he got the most out of all those guys' plan. But he also attracts talent on both sides of the field. I got him number one. I don't know how you can't think he's better in the damn arena. Skill-wise. I mean, skill-wise? Leadership. I'm a Brady hater, so for me to say this.

Leadership. The Tampa Bay ones. It certified it. It ended it. It's like Belichick is coaching. What is high school is the girl? I got Brady number one on my list, too. Greatest quarterback of all time.

Number two is Joe Montana. Who's after that? Probably somebody ringless. No, his name is Patrick Mahomes. You got Patrick Mahomes at three already? How could you, he has three Super Bowls? How could you not? I see, but we-

The guy's in his 20s still. Like, what are we talking about? So where Eli Manning fall in? I'm, with all respect to Eli. Further. I mean, Payton is above. But that's my-

point and Eli got two of them things. Yeah. And he beat the goat twice. Twice. Yeah. That's why the ring shit don't really matter in the football until it does. Yeah, it's tricky. It is tricky. It is. It doesn't matter until it does. Brady. Those guys stepped up.

I mean, Dan Marino as an arm, yeah, best of all time. He threw a lot of big interception. I can remember his career. Look at this. 25 NFL Legends who never won the Super Bowl ring. Dick Butt Kiss, bro. Earl fucking fucking Campbell. Greatest name. Come on, man.

Eric Dickerson, bro. I love it. Come on, man. Who else? Yeah, I'm fans. It was great. I don't know who that is. Antonio Gates.

Come out, the greatest tight-in ever. Nah. What? Grunk is the greatest tight-in. No, he's not. Tony Gonzalez, both these two people are better than grunk. Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates, both of them play tight-in. I don't know, man.

John Hanna, I don't know who that is. Sony Jurgerson, never heard of. Jim fucking Kelly, bro. Legend. Come on, man. Dan Marino, of course. Who else? Oh, are you spreading too fast?

Warren Moon. Who was the first thing you just went past? Chris. A bunch of offensive linemen. Yeah. Bruce. They count though. Scroll up, I don't know who they are.

Uh, there. Randy Moss, come on, bro. Huh? He never won. No, he never won. He lost that year. They went undefeated in New England. Yeah.

Come on, man. Anthony Munas. Merlin Olson. I don't know. Alan Page. Philip Rivers. He's not one of the 20 years. He's not.

Philip Rivers? No. Matt Ryan? No. Okay, not it was stupid. Barry Sanders? Come on, man. O.J. Whoa. OJ. don't deserve to win one. He won something else much greater in life. It's called a trial. Bruce Smith? He had his chance.

Four, three times, four times, right? Come on, man. Come on, man. You're going to tell me these on some of the greatest players of their deposition ever. Come on, man. J.J. Watt, bro. Come on, man. Did J.J. fully retire? Yes, he's done. He's done. He's done. We can't. We got to stop the ring. I understand what Gilly is saying, but the ring doesn't make Jalen better than Cam.

Yeah. Not to me. Also, Gilly's going to have to fight a few people. I looked up a bunch of different lists of active best QBs, and Jalen's nine for the ESPN list, which was a bunch of executives and other current players ranking. The ringers got him 15th. And Bill Simmons, I think, has him lower, too.

Damn. I would have to hear the argument. I'm not going to argue. anyone's right and wrong. I mean, look, they were talking about benching or trading him about a year ago in Philly. Oh, wow, yeah, yeah. And I'm not going to argue with Cam Newton.

Cam Newton clearly knows more about football than me. So if Cam tells me he's not on the top ten list, I'm going to ask why. And when he tells me, it's probably going to make sense. I don't fucking know. What else we got? Let's do some more asking idiots, man. Let's do some more asking idiots, man. J-O-Ews and Nate says,

what was your first job? What was your first job, Schultz? First job. I was a delivery boy. A delivery boy for the grocery store, delivery boy for a liquor and wine store, and then a delivery boy for a pizza shop. Oh.

Those are my first, like, real employee. I mean, I did little jobs and shit for, but you just smiled out of that. That's what happened at the pizza shop. Wait, why? Isn't there a girl at work there? Oh, yeah. My friend's older sister would just sit on my lap and feel my erections.

She was older. She was living in a lot of stuff. Oh, my God. She would just sit on my lap. I would flip my dick up to my belly, and then she would just give me erections. Really? Yeah. I don't know.

And that's probably, that was probably at a time where that was inappropriate of her to do. It's never inappropriate when a woman does it to a girl. I agree with you entirely. I mean, I know, it should be, but it's not. There's a double standard in the world that exists. Like, you could tell, you could both tell that same story, and people will say you took advantage of her. Oh my God. I had a garlic not burying a hole in the back of her jeans for an entire summer. Damn. I remember it vividly. Really? Yeah. You never really got to put the

taste of oregano sauce, though? Nothing, nothing. Really? Yeah. A kiss at least? Not even a kiss, dude, just a bunch of ricotta on my drawers. So how does she used to get you hard? Like, I think I was at a time where you didn't really need to do much. Just a woman showing you interest. Yeah, smile. Boyon, young, yeah, yeah, simple as that. Wow. What the fuck does that mean? J-O-N-1, when you're going to do bad friends. Bad friends, the podcast. Who's part of that? Andrew Santino and Bobby Lee,

hilarious podcast. Oh, I didn't know that's what it was called. Yeah. I mean, I see it all the time, but I didn't know that's what it was called. They're great. We got to go pop up. Next time we're in L.A., we'll pop out and we'll do it.

I was at their studio this week. Oh, no way. What were you doing? Just tape us for shit. What, they asked us to do it or something? Like, people, like, why do they? No, I guess they're fans of bad friends. They got a great show.

Well, what's the, oh, they just want us to go do it. Be the guess, yeah. Oh, okay, okay, okay. That'll be a fun episode. My first job was, well, my first real job, I used to work with my dad. My dad used to do construction, but my first real job was a warehouse called Industrial Acoustics Company. Yes.

I got fired by a woman named Gail Cobb. Oh, Gail. Told me that I just did not fit in to what they were doing. Was she, right? Um, I mean, they had us in the back, like, knocking weeds down. So, like, this one dude I used to work with used to bring weed and we'd be back there smoking and they had like a, they had like this, it was like a flat bed. It was like a piece of a flat bed back there that was like a stage. Yeah. It's like, you know, we all get hired. I'm going to stage and start just making everybody laugh. Really? Yeah. And Gail caught me one time, so. And then she fired you immediately.

I think so. Pretty sure it was like it didn't last long after that. Like not even a little bit. She fired me. She told me I didn't fit in, I guess. She was, she clearly was right. Yeah. The fuck.

Shout out Gail. Shout out the Gail Cobb, man. She might be passed away now, probably. That was a long time ago. And she was older then. But then again, you don't know. You don't know. Because back then, them kids was like, them older people was like 20 plus late 20s, early 30s.

But looking way older. Yeah, man. Yeah. That's it for this week. This week's Brilliant Idiots episode, man. Thank you. You can always send in asking idiots. We'll get to them.

We've decided that we're not, Andrew is going to do some idiots when you're in our script. Yeah, I want to do some, we're going to make it happen. It's going to be like COVID. You got to figure it out the way we did it when it was during COVID, man. But as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent,

you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit. You're right, too. It's a brilliant idiot's podcast. Thank you for listening. at the ease.