The Brilliant Idiots - Hyper Bowl

Episode Date: December 19, 2019

This week Charlamange Tha God and Andrew Schulz discuss Tekashi's sentencing, Trump impeachment, CTG's interview with Meek Mill, Fake kidnapping in NY, and more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's so stupid it's positively brilliant. The brilliant idiot. Shalamaine, the guy. Andrew Shokes. We are the brilliant idiots, and we don't have no pre-rolls this week, but we have a lot of mid-rolls and the post-rolls. Don't ever think we fell to fuck off, okay? Never think that.

All right. But we do have some church announcements, do we? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Look, we can get into it later. Let's talk, man. We got some cool things going. I'm honest with you.

I'm done with your motherfuckers. Good. I am done. Yesterday was my last day. at Breakfast Club. I'm tightening up some things today because we're recording the podcast right now Thursday morning. It's 30 in the morning.

So after I do this podcast, I got one other thing to do, and I am fucking done until January 7th. Now, did you block off all this time to give 6-9 head? It was a show of bed, baby? Like, it was a show of bed. Yo, there's nobody.

You were in the hot seat this week. I would never use that kind of hyperbole if I didn't think it was a show of bed. Now, how long did it take you to find out how to properly pronounce hyperbole. Actually, you know what? I always knew how to pronounce it, but for whatever reason,

I said hyperbole. You were like, shit, did Elon Musk have been something? It's hyperbole. You know what I'm saying? It's the same thing as when Biggie said... Go like this right here. When Biggie said, you look so good,

I'll suck on your daddy's dick. Call it Richard Pryor. It's all hyperbole. Oh, when Biggie said, I'll fuck Rupal before I fuck the muggly ass of skate bitches. You know what I'm saying? You still got this thing right here. It's all hyperbole.

So that's what I was using to let people know. There was no way in how. hell, 6-9 was beating his case. Yeah. And so, you know what's so crazy about the worst? Even if he got out, you wouldn't be responsible to suck his dick.

If I would never, that was, that's a bet. No, I'm not saying that you would have done it. He still didn't beat the case. Exactly. Now, you got these idiots on social media who will say things now like, oh, well, he only got 24 months. Technically, that's beating the case.

No, it's fucking. It's not being a case. There's no such thing is technically he beat the case. I don't give a fuck if he got 24 months Two days, he got sentenced. Would you remove your chains before doing it, hypothetically speaking? I would never do it. It was a show bet. But that wouldn't that be slightly disrespectful?

To the honorable Elijah Muhammad and Malcolm makes you just hear their chains dangling. It's called hyperbole. Everybody go Google hyperbole. It's an exaggeration. You know what I mean? You're a comedian. You do hyperbole all the time. Bro, I thought you said hyperbole.

And I was like, you're really going for the sack with this blowjob. But once again, can we say something once again? Yes. I'm right. Like I have most of the time about shit. That's what people really hate. They want Solomon to be so wrong. Ooh, we got him finally.

Six-nine is coming home. He's going to have to suck that dick. I'm sitting back looking at all of me. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where do these rumors come from on the Internet? What do you mean? Like, as far as, like, Six-N-N-N-home. that never came from any reliable source.

That never came from a reliable source. Okay, okay, okay. You know what do you, where do you think it comes from? I just think people just start that shit, they throw it out there and it goes. Now, I will say last week. You don't think maybe a lawyer?

Maybe like someone's on the team? They came from the label. And the label made it up? I think it came from the label. I think the label was gauging the level of interest people still had in 6'9. Not even as far as like regular people. as far as like the media is concerned

because they hit me last week and they asked me if I would be down and do a one-on-one interview with 6-9 I said, nah, I don't think that would be a good idea. Yeah. Did you ask what type? I mean, I didn't know if they were trying to cash in on the bed. I don't know that.

I'm going to be his first sexual pleasure when he comes home. I don't fucking know. But I was just like, yeah, I don't think that'd be a good idea. I was like, his best two looks have been the breakfast club, you know, maybe the breakfast club,

but I said I'll gauge interest. I said, I honestly didn't know how I felt, but I don't know how I feel about interviewing six nine because if you would have got out I would have felt like there would have been no accountability understand what I'm saying like you you while out you know you troll people you order these hits on

people people got hurt you know you do all of this bullshit you go to jail then you snitch on every fucking body right and then you just come home and like you're just supposed to be embraced with open arms like where's the accountability in that like how does a kid learn right right right how does a kid learn from that six nine situation

if he just comes home reasonable on Wednesday he's been there's a where he's been in prison for, what is it, 13 months or something? 13 months. And, you know, you've been a big proponent of changed behavior. Not after 13 months. That's what the next question was. How long is it before you can get away from your past?

Well, the best apology is change behavior, right? So I would have to see how he comes home. So if he was to come home on yesterday, I got to see what type of person he is. Gotcha. You know, are you coming home humbled by the situation? Gotcha. Are you coming home acknowledging that what you did, was wrong in a real way.

Are you a change man? Are you still out here telling everybody suck your dick? You know what I mean? And by the way, I have no reason to trust him because he's a young troll. So he's the type of person that will say anything, right, to get what he wants.

Right. So you come home and you try to be nice 6-9. Nice 6-9 don't work. Right. So now you got to go back to suck my dick 6-9 and Super Thug, Gangster 6-9 because you're surrounded by all of this security, 6-9, and then now all of us looking stupid again.

And now we back where we started it. I never thought that the Super Thub, thing was that compelling. I thought the self-deprecation was funny. Like when he would run in the hallways and talk about how he's the fastest guy when he's like super slow, obviously. And it was just hysterical. Like he'd just be in this hotel room.

When he's playing soccer and like he's the best goalie. Like when he was kind of making fun of himself and poking fun of himself, I was really entertained. Him telling like thugged out people to suck his dick was funny because it kind of exposed their fake thuggery in a lot of ways. I don't think that it exposed that fake thugger. They just never ran into each other. You understand what I'm saying?

I mean, like, there's certain people you can't tell them to suck your dick. That's not true. Not when I was the internet. You got guys telling the president to suck their dick every day. You could tell the president to suck his dick. To suck your dick. Do it in person. You can't.

Do it in person with all the secret service and watch what happens to you. I think you could say suck my dick to the president. Shit. Not without getting tackled. You can't run up on them and actually physically make them suck your dick. But that's how it sounds on the internet. On the internet, you know, Anybody can be whatever they want to be on the internet.

You can say whatever you want to say on the internet. But there are consequences to those actions, right? And even with somebody like 6-9, that shit is all fun of games. So you look at the letters from the victims that they sent to the judge. Or you look at the innocent by-cant. You don't think about shit like that. The innocent bystander who got shot when he was ordering a hit on somebody. Here's what I would say.

The illusion maybe before 6-9 was, yo, you don't even say a word about these gangst of rappers. Because if you even say a word about them, you might not have felt this way. but maybe someone like myself who's a little bit more removed, the idea was that they were like my bosses where it's like, you don't even say it work, because if you say it work, someone's going to see you about it.

And then... He could have still got saw. That's fair. That's fair. But like, he started saying a word about everybody and none of them did anything. And it was kind of fascinating for... He didn't go nowhere at all.

You're on the internet with this shit. Like, he was in all these places. They showed the video. He was in L.A. No, no, no, no, no, no. They showed the video. of this guy in Chicago, surrounded by police officers, surrounded by all this type flight security.

This O'block he went to at like 4.35 in the morning. He literally was there for like 40 seconds. Yo, he got kidnapped. What do you mean? He got kidnapped in Chicago, but he got kidnapped in New York. Exactly. So it's not even that hard to get him. But he got kidnapped by his own crew.

That's the thing. So it's not even that hard to get him. Andrew, he got kidnapped his own crew. I can kidnap you right now. I know where you're at. I know who you're at. You know what I'm saying? You got to kidnap me?

You want to hang out? I'll hang out, bro. We can go get some food or whatever. I'm just saying. We're a team. It's easy to kidnap somebody in your team. Right. That's the easiest thing to do.

I know a tale of that every day. So you would kidnap her? Depends the price. It's a hot commodity out here in these streets. How much you're going for? Taylor? Yeah, they hit us and they were like $1 million. I'd be like, hmm.

I wouldn't sell. What's sin doing? I wouldn't sell to $1. I wouldn't sell it for $1. I wouldn't sell it for $1 million. You wouldn't sell her? I wouldn't sell it for $1. nothing I have. What does that mean?

I wouldn't sell up with nothing I have. Oh, I forgot you're selling. I was in a buyer's market. That's right. You kidnapped. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So here's the question. What would we pay for Taylor? Say she was kidnapped by someone else. And I know her? It's Taylor. Like, I know her. You know her. It's Taylor. It's this Taylor. She's not your relative. Yo, one. Wait me. Is this a ransom? Like, are we trying to get her back to save her life? Or this? To have her. No, no, no. You don't own her now.

Okay. Do you know how kidnapping works? So it's a ransom. Do we need to bring in a professional wax? Get in here. No, it's a ransom. It is a ransom. Taylor is kidnapped.

There is one way to get her back. It is one million U.S. dollars to get her back. Prayer changes things, bro. You know what I'm saying? Everybody let's hold hands and let's all say a prayer for young Taylor. You know what I mean? Love her. Okay. Please.

You know how quickly he will be an Anguilla for getting about your ass? Please, God, bring her back home safely. Please. So you're not putting up a milly for Taylor. Millie's a lot of money, bro. A millie is a lot of money, though. Millie's a lot of money, yo. Say what?

What about half? $500. I got to see what you're money. What kind of collateral your mom got? You get the house? You know, that's true. I'm serious. Like, your mom got to put up the money first.

What's that? It's not on Charlotte. I need some collateral. Like, if I put this money up, how do I make sure it's an ROI on this? No, no, there's no return on investment. That is an investment. It's not a stock. Yes, it is.

I'm a free you dealer, but I get 20% in perpetuity. I wouldn't even put no interest on it. I don't want to make sure that I get my money back at some point in time. But you can't get your money back. If you put the house up. If her mom put the house in my name. So you go buy her mom's house? Do you want Taylor back a knife?

Now you're holding her ransom too. You're doing the same thing. You're kidnapping her. You basically transferred the kidnapping. Are you like a hooch with this? Is this a ring? Yo, a milly no. 500K no.

Okay, what's the no question amount? $50,000 to get Taylor back. I put 50 up. Yo, that's what's up, Taylor. You got 50. out of me. That is what sucked, Taylor. I'll put 50 up.

50 up for Taylor. That's no problem. 75. I do 75 for Taylor. 90. I do 90 for Taylor. 100. I do 100 for Taylor.

$150,000. That's when it gets a little tricky. That's when we have to start thinking about other options. I'm serious. I'm serious. A hundred. Two is to go to school. Yeah, you did give $250,000 for girls to go to college, bro.

Or girls have a future. I'm not saying you don't have a future tale. I'm just saying I don't know how you'll be after the kidnapping. My trauma is from real shit. Yo, that's a good point. You got to see what shape the car is in before you buy it. Trauma is no fucking joke after that shit, bro. A lot.

You might not get your life together ever again. And then he can't get any return of investment. It might be just a lifetime of therapy and counseling for you. I'm dead serious. Every time we say handcuff, you start shaking in the fucking corner, this could be bad. But I'm saying all that to say,

Takashi got kidnapped by somebody in his team. That's easy to do. Right. So it's just like he was avoiding a lot of potential really bad trouble. I actually think jail was a good thing for him. And the police officers said that when they arrested him. They said, we're arresting you because if we don't arrest you, it's over.

You're going to get killed. Whoa. They told him that. So I think it was for two reasons. I don't think they was really caring about his safety. I also knew, I think they know that they could have flipped. They knew they could flip Takashi 6-9 the way that they did. Yeah.

Simple as that. And do you think that there's any future for him? It's going to be rough, though. But it's definitely a future. I mean, I see Takashi, I see Takashi coming home sometime next year. He's going to need 24-7, 365-day security. How much is that? It's going to be very costly.

I mean, I look at somebody like 50-cent. I don't know if 50-cent had around-the-clock security, but I don't know at 50 cents, I know in like 2009, I read an article that said 50 cents security detail was $1.6 million. Holy shit. And I don't even think that's around the clock.

That's just like when he's moving around, you know, maybe the city or different cities are going in and out of town. I don't know if that's around the clock, but it was $1.6 million for $0.50. Now, my question is, how's Takashi going to make that money? Because let's just say the label put up $10 million, right?

And so maybe a million or two of that goes in his pocket. the rest goes to his budgets for albums, security and stuff like that. He's going to be on supervised release five years. What does that mean? It's like supervised release. So it's like probation for five years or maybe parole. I don't know if it's probation or parole, but he's going to be on probation or parole for five years. And that means he can travel if he gets permission.

If he gets permission. Right. Right now. Probably just in the States. Probably just in the States. Before he went in, none of these arenas and shit wanted to fuck with him. Right. Live Nation and none of them wanted to fuck with him.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You think that's going to change now that he's out? Now they're going to look at him as more reliability because they think everybody really wants to kill this motherfucker.

So what's the monetization strategy? I don't know because you don't make that much money off-streaming. We know that already. We know you don't make a lot of money off-streaming. Like a billion screams on Spotify equates to like a million, $2 million, something like that. So you know you don't make a lot of money off-streaming. You're going to have to be on the road constantly to make this money

and really just to pay this security bill every motherfucker. On top of your other bills, I don't see how it lasts I don't see how he survives long. That's just my personal take on it. I just don't see where the money's going to come from. I just don't. But you think the labels believe

that there's money here. Clearly. Labels hit us up last week. Labels wanted to do a one-on-one interview. I told him that we should do a breakfast club. They really thought he was coming home on Wednesday, which is another thing I think probably pissed off the judge. One stuff like that gets in the news.

It's like, you don't decide. You don't decide. You don't decide. You're already setting up interviews, motherfucker. Like, And the way the judge was lining it up, I thought the judge was about to get that motherfucker like 10 years. I said he would probably get a three to five with time served. Yeah.

So you probably do like two years. So, listen, I thought it was a, I thought, I'm not going to say I thought it was a fair and just sentence because he snitched. You know what I'm saying? And the cooperation is bad. Like, but he at least got held accountable. And he's going to be held accountable for the rest of his life. This is a permanent stain. Can we discuss this here?

If. if you're going to snitch and then your crew tries to take you out, I get that. But if your crew tries to take you out first and then you snitch, is that not understandable? No, I like what the judge said yesterday. The judge said, you are not a victim here. No, no.

I'm not saying he's a victim, but just on that one, I'm just curious about snitch etiquette before we get into him specifically. In other words, let's say you and I are, gang. We're doing all these like, you know, bank robberies or shit like that, right? Let's say I'm about to go snitch on you. You kill me. I kind of get it because it's like...

If Ghost hasn't snitched on Tommy yet and Tommy hasn't snitched on Ghosts... But I get it. But here's the thing. Let's say you're about to kill me, right? And I find out that you want to kill me so you don't have to share any of this bank money with me. And I go, well, fuck that. I'm snitching on this motherfucker.

He's trying to kill me. Don't you start the bad shit? You can't do that. You got to kill me. That's the gangster way. You can't rush to the police. You got to kill me. Okay.

That's it. You got to get me got. Okay. Yeah. It's everything is outside of law enforcement. You can't. So it would be more respected on the streets, not saying this is a good thing to do, but it would be more respect in the streets. In other words, if I handled you.

Totally understandable. Totally understandable. And people who would say that, oh, that was dishonorable. You killed your man. Once you explain the situation. They'd be like, okay. I had no other choice. Simple as that.

Okay, that's just what I need to clear it up about the etiquette. So the whole thing about the streets, and I'm sure it's as similar to mob shit or everything, is just we handle things outside law enforcement. Absolutely. Once you start dealing with law enforcement, you were a rat. That's it. These are the same people we've been ducking and fucking challenging for years.

And so now you want to use them to your advantage. That's why I love what the judge said to six nine yesterday. The judge was like, you're not a victim. Yeah. Because when it was convenient for you, you used this army. to do your bidding. You called hits on Trippy Red and you called Hits on Chief Keefe.

Like when it was serving you, he actually called him selfish. The judge called him selfish. The judge said you're selfish. So when it was self-serving to you, you used this gang to your motherfucking bidding. So you ain't know, you know innocent here at all. So listen, I don't feel starving six or nine.

I'm shocked that he didn't get a little bit more time. Right. But it's just going to be rough. for him when he comes home. Yeah. Who's coming in? It's Carolina. It's going to be very rough for him when he comes home, man. And I honestly don't see how he... What would you do if you're him? Hmm.

I would do a lot of soul searching. I wouldn't, I wouldn't worry about the character of six nine right now. How would you stay alive is what I'm asking? When he comes home, what would you do to stay alive? I mean, listen, we live in a different area. So I'm not saying that he's going to be getting shot at everywhere he goes. Yeah. I don't know, man. I guess that honestly, when you asked me that question, what would I do to stay alive? That's why I say I would do a lot of soul searching. Like, I would, I would really dismiss the character of six nine because the character of six nine is what got me in that situation. And I would really lean in on who the

fuck Daniel Hernandez is. You know what I mean? I'd be trying to figure out my life. You know what I mean? I'd be doing a lot of soul searching and just, you know, holding myself accountable, you know, recognizing where I went wrong and trying to correct that as a man. And then I would get back into the music thing. That's why that's another reason I didn't want to interview him so soon because I'm like these labels don't give a fuck about six nine they didn't give a fuck about six nine before he went in the jail they were funding the dysfunction

right so now that he's went to jail and he's snitched and he's back out on the street they just want to fund more dysfunction because they want their what ROI? That's it if it's true that they invested 10 million in them which I don't even know if that's true if it's true that they did they want their fucking money back all they're thinking about is product

go out here make these motherfucking songs let's see if we can get you on the road doing some shows, and that's that. Yeah. It's just interesting, man. Let's say I want return on investment. Mm-hmm. I guess that I would have to fund that 50 cent-esque security.

You have no choice. You have no choice. If I'm Daniel Hernandez, I have to take that agreement because that's the only thing that keeps me alive. If I don't want to take that agreement, does he move to Montana? Like, where does he go? I don't think there's nowhere he can go. It's a different error. How the fuck do you have to be?

have witness protection when you're a celebrity. I've never seen a case like this. Correct me if I'm wrong, Chris or Andrew. I've never seen a case with a high profile celebrity. Right. And I mean, I'm not going to call it 690A list even though I hate those fucking lists, but he's a high profile celebrity. And you're a fucking government informant. Like, I've never seen anything like this. It is so interesting because this might be the first witness protection situation of the internet world where witness protection was predicated on the whole idea that middle America had no clue what was going on in entertainment or like on the coasts. So literally the idea of witness protection was, well, we'll send them to Oklahoma.

They don't know what's happening over there. The internet has shrunk the world. Those kids in Oklahoma listen to the same hip hop your kids listen to, listen to the same hip-hop, my cousins listen to everybody. They know 6-9. I don't think that you can send him to any place in America where the kids there will be unaware of who he is. But also shows he wants to be seen.

Right, right, right, right, right. He's a rapper. But if he didn't, if he was like, I truly just want to go. I don't think he's going to be in witness protection. I don't think that. No, he turned it down. But let's say they offered it to him, where are you going to witness protect him? Utah, they're hip.

Yeah, man. Montana, they're hip. The internet shrunk ever. There's no more... You're flat in the world. Yo, there's no more... When it's protection, bro. Yeah.

It's gone. I really don't know. And then, like I said, 24-7, 365 security, I just don't see how he... I just don't see what the money's going to come from. He wasn't generating

that kind of paper when he was out. So it's just like, I don't see where that money's going to come from. Like, all right, like, it's screaming. It's not going to be able to cover those kind of bills. You know what I'm saying? You can't do a reality show because...

Reality show he could, but it's not going to be. cover those kind of bills. Who's going to pick it up? One of these networks. Showtime already, Showtime doing a documentary on them or some shit like that. Complex is doing a documentary.

Yeah, like they've been announced to Showtime shit. They announced to Showtime shit months ago. Like, they said, motherfuckers give a fuck about that content now. Let's not get it fucked up. Content is always king. A TV network will definitely pick it the fuck up. But I'm just talking about as far as like him making consistent money on a show basis, I don't see it.

Who's the touring company that's going to sign six? Yeah. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. I just think the irony of 6'9 getting the sentence and Trump getting impeached on the same fucking... Hey, yo, 6'9 shit slap harder, bro. We were on Twitter, refreshing Twitter. This guy was giving this long-ass speech, the judge. We were there for every second.

Me, you and Van, Texan, me and Alex, we were actually together with Kaz. Caz were going through every single moment. The Trump impeachment happened were like... No, I think they slapped equally. We didn't even discuss the Trump impeachment. I had a couple of group chaps going, but you know what it was so good about it? It was day and night. Takashi was during the day.

Yeah. Trump was late at night. Trump was like 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock last night. All the impeachments came down. I think the difference was I knew an impeachment in the House didn't mean anything. So it's not like there was a decision made about Trump. Still historic, though. It's historic.

You got to stop saying it didn't mean anything. It's historic, but it doesn't do anything. In other words, he's still... The three worst things that can happen to a president are impeachment, being removed for impeachment, which has never happened, and actually getting assassinated. Right. Yeah.

Like, told the three things that you don't want as a president. Yeah. I just don't think impeachment matters. No, it matters. I don't think so. When you're a... What's two things, right? When you're a narcissist like Donald Trump who was calling for the impeachment of Barack Obama,

like literally saying, yo, he should be impeached for gross incompetent. They're pulling up old tweets as his son saying Barack should be impeached. Right. Yeah, this is a stain. But I will say this, right? I'll throw, I'll throw... But do you don't think that he's okay with stains? His whole thing is being a stain.

No. I think that you underestimate how little he cares about the people that don't like him. I think he's made a career. I think he's made a career on not only political career, but an entertainment career, on division. You either love or hate this man, and he understands. what is more love or hate than politics. But that's with any polarizing person, right? Of course.

But Donald Trump has the most bruised, wounded ego I've ever seen. If there's one person out here that is dealing with their hurt-in-a-child syndrome, it is that man. And every billionaire that I know, especially here in New York. Settleflex. I'm just letting them. I'm actually at dinner. I'll be honest with you all that dinner at Trump Tower was last week.

Really? That happened. I didn't know how it. I was like, what the fuck? It's why I ever did that? Whatever. So we were saying. See, when they call.

And they were talking to me about Trump and they were saying how we never took Trump serious. Trump was a goofy. He always wanted to be down. He always wanted to be down with that club. He thought being president was going to finally make that club accept him. Now that he looked at you as an even bigger dickhead, right? But I thought Trump a little bit of bail, right? Honestly, honestly, though, they never.

accepted him. But he manifested that shit. What do you mean? When he was earlier on in his career, he would call the tabloids himself. And he'd go, hey, I'm the publicist for Donald Trump. Sorry, billionaire Donald Trump. Before he was even a billionaire, I'm the publicist for billionaire Donald Trump. He was at this restaurant last night with this person trying to get on page six.

And he'd call himself billionaire Donald Trump before he was ever a billionaire. He knew exactly what he was doing. He was fake until you're making it. You don't think that's the highest level of insecurity? Bro, I'm not... That's like Kevin Durant's burner account. I'm not... Like you're calling the fucking New York Post and page six to report stories on yourself?

I'm not denying that it's wildly insecure. What I am denying is... What I am saying is he is aware of these global elites, these billionaires, right? And he's aware of who he is. I don't think he... I don't think that... I don't think he's unaware of that. I don't think he thinks he's one of them.

I think he definitely wanted to be down with the end crowd. A hundred percent wants to be done. 100 percent wants to be down. We need you right now. I think he definitely wants to be part of the end crowd. He's always wanted to be part of the end crowd. Right. And we're not having a political discussion, Chris.

We're just talking about character. You wrote a book about Trump. Now, careful, you're in the shots, Chris. What was the book about? Chris, you're behind you. There's two cameras. And I will say the reason I bought Chris in because even before Donald Trump was president,

Chris has been telling me these kind of stories. so I know that they're not coming from a biased place. This is just his opinion of Donald Trump. This isn't political. I'm just giving you a character evaluation of Donald Trump. Come on this way a little bit.

I did not write a book for Donald Trump. I wrote a book for his daughter, Ivanka. Right, right. I was fired. So you've been writing some problematic literature, bro. Hey, someone's got to do it. Yo, you were the curse, bro. If you, real talk, if he writes your book,

you got a book. You got a, you got a. You got a Me Too comment, bro. Yo, what is your record for authored Me Too's dog? You're undefeated, bro. It's almost like, it's almost like not enough copies moving. I got a story for you. When you got a point, you got a point.

That's a point, right? That's a point, right? It's the worst ghost writer in history, son. Chris, you got a record, bro. You got a resume. bro, once's that Kevin Spacey book coming out? He's working on it right now. He's working on Harvey Weinstein's life after prison book.

Now, Chris, so tell us. Trash the assessment of Donald Trump. Yeah. I think he was on the outside of what you would call the in-crowd. I think Ivanka was very much groomed to be on the inside. Yes. And I think that's where it gets interesting because I think she was part of that scene. I mean, when I was working for her.

For her, they asked me to interview her friends, and her friends were all, you know, Rupert Murdoch's wife. Carlos Slim, basically. The Mexican billionaire. They're kids. No, no. Them. He positioned her to be friends with all those people that he couldn't maybe get access to because they thought he was too crass. He wasn't grandfathered in, but she could be.

She could be born in. They looked at Trump as a nigger. Well, that is a harsh way. of looking at it. They thought he was ghetto. Yeah. Out of borough. Which was a big deal.

Out of borough. That's right. He's from Queens. He's from Queens. He's not a city kid. He didn't go to the... You all look at it like that? I didn't know.

Y'all look at things like that. Oh, dude, it's... Yeah. Within those circles, yeah. Dude, humans have hierarchies. No matter where we are, we have hierarchies. Someone was telling me a story about when they were in a... Oh, fuck.

What was it? Like, Namibia or some shit like that. And there was a club. And I think it was... Yeah, my buddy, Ben. He was like, maybe he was in this club. It was outside. And they had a VIP section in the club.

They just had two plastic chairs. Outside, two plastic chairs. But human beings need fucking hierarchies. We're disgusting. We need it. That's crazy. I didn't know Manhattan looked down on Queens. Not to interrupt, but it's not to look down, but it's just like,

how can I find a way to have some value over you without doing any work? Because I look at it from a hip-hop perspective. Queens got all the best rappers. We've got to Manhattan. Manhattan? Manhattan. Billionaires usually don't define their worth by who has the best rappers. I know.

I'm going to tell you how my perspective of. I know. But it's also true. You know, bring Donald M. You know, run DMCs from Queens. But look, a lot of a lot of rappers gravitated to Trump. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, to hang out with Trump was the sign that you had made it as a rapper. And Trump got it towards a lot of rappers. You know why? Because Trump had the money. Right. He was the playboy. Right. And so back then, all those rappers,

that's probably the richest person they knew and had access to. So they were showing mad love. And furthermore, they were all faking until they made. did. Rappers were acting like they had this, had tons of money when they didn't. And Donald Trump was acting like he had tons of money when he didn't. And you know what?

Some of those rappers ended up getting tons of money. And Donald Trump ended up getting tons of money, though. When he just wasn't a billionaire. So here's the thing. And you know this now because you're operating with these guys. You have tons of money compared to Taylor. Yeah, yeah. When you're with these billionaires, you don't got shit.

No, they're printing money. They printing money. Yeah, yeah, they're talking about their vacations are my life savings. Exactly. Right. Like, seriously. So everything is relative, right? So if you're Trump and you're the poorest one in the group, you think you're broke.

Yeah, he don't even own Trump's house. Right. He licenses the name. That's what I learned when I was working for them and researching the organization. Everything is licensed the name, put down as little as your own money as possible. If you burn the shit down, you just keep it moving. That's it. Yeah.

Like that was his whole hustle. And I guess it worked for him. Yeah. So I'm saying, he's not the first person to not put money down. No. Oh, I do want to,

I did, I said I wanted to, I just wanted, I want to, I can see, I can play white devil's advocate with one thing, right? Go.

Donald Trump, no political experience whatsoever. Mm-hmm. The highest seed in the land. Mm-hmm. Bro, of course he's going to fuck it up. of course Like what are we

Like we're acting like this guy Was some skilled Politician who knows the ends And outs of politics What he should be doing What he shouldn't be doing It's easy to say Hey all you got to do is listen to this person

And it probably is that easy But he's not He probably he's like I'm not listening to you motherfuckers Of course he was going to fuck up This was destined to crash and burn This is why The United States of America

Really needs to put some qualifications On being president bro Like you have to have a certain educational level and you have to have a certain level of political experience. This is not a game to be played with. You know, it's interesting that you say that. Even the type of impeachment, like the way that he fucked up, right? Abuse of power.

Outside of abuse of power, right? The way that he got caught is such a political way to get caught, right? It's a rookie move. Exactly. It's an inexperienced move, right? Because a politician would have known how to get that match. message there. What do they call it back channeling? Yeah, with enough cushion. With enough cushion.

Right. What he did was a real estate move. Right. Which is, hey, I want to build this building in New Hampshire. Who's the guy going up for Congress in New Hampshire? Right. Oh, you know what? Get me on the phone with that guy.

Hey, listen, you want to... You want me to donate to your campaign? Yeah, but hey, I can't donate to your campaign. You know, I will donate to your campaign. I would love to because there's that space. But you know, it's this thing I want, right? Yeah. That's exactly what you do.

No, I'm not saying that this money. For that, I'm just saying, wouldn't it be great if we had this building and your campaign? That is classic New York, well, not only New York, but just a real estate hustle when you're dealing at the highest levels. And that's what I wish everybody who supports Trump, right? Everybody who supports Trump, I really wish they would just take a step back and just say, yo, of course he's going to fuck up. Like, stop acting like he's a president. Right. Right.

He's, stop acting like he's a politician. Sure, sure. But the idea that no presidents, that there are presidents that don't fuck up. People fuck up. This is every decision has a cost. Look how he fucked up. It was a rookie inexperienced move. You should have expected him to make this move.

And he doesn't put smart people around him, which is something I learned working with him is, I mean, you could put me in that category. But like he, you know, like, honestly. That's hilarious. He doesn't hire smart people. He hired me. No, but seriously. I know how they do stuff. The number one qualification to get hired by them, and this was true in the election, I'm sure it's true.

The administration is they want the cheapest person, no matter what. There's a blueprint they follow on every deal. Like, for instance, when they were negotiating with me, it was, okay, let's say hypothetically it's a $100,000 job. Yeah. Right? They say, listen, you should do this for $50,000. And we know it's under market. And this is exactly what they told me.

But if you do it for us. You're going to have so much shine around your name after you're connected to a Trump success. He really is a rapper. Right. That it'll be worth it. Yo, this exposure, bro. Right. Hey, give me 16 bars.

But once this shit goes. That was the rap that gave me. And like I was literally on, you know, Ivanka was like calling me up at midnight, you know, arguing over $5,000. Like they literally try to squeeze. And then you quit? So what happened was, so they gave you limes disease. Right, they gave me limes, the orange version. But like, they gave you orange.

No, so they say, let's say it's a $100,000 job. Yeah. You do it for 50. Yeah. Then halfway through, she brought me in and she was like, it's clear to me. And, you know, I've been going to her apartment twice a week where hours and hours of talking. It's clear to me, you don't respect my family, right? And I was like, I don't.

Wow. You know, like. Well, me, I don't say that because you're not, you're not, you're a reserved. I'm a reserve. There was an incident where, and this kind of comes back to what you're talking about with the thin skin, paper thin, paper mesh thin. She said, I want you to come into a meeting with my father to watch how he operates. So it's a meeting in Trump Tower and they're going over the hallways in a hotel resort that they're building. And first, it's just her, an interior designer, an architect for 45 minutes. All right. If we spend this much on the rug, and this many units will be this much. Hold on. Can you hold this story for one second? I'm about to piss my pants.

Go do it. But don't finish, I want to hear the story. I got it. I got you. Press pause, yeah. Oh, you know what? I'll do a mid-roll. I'll do a mid-roll.

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going back to the meeting where the incident happened or the first thing. Okay. So we're in the boardroom. It's her. It's an interior designer. It's an architect, they're going over the interior of the, uh, whatever hotel they're building and check them. They're doing the, the rugs, the lighting, the door fixtures, how much is going to cost to do 300 of these, 400 of these. Barra. Yeah. Boring, but okay, this is how you make a hotel. After about 45 minutes, Trump himself comes in. He immediately starts reviewing their stuff.

How come you didn't do it this way to the, uh, interior designer? How come, you could have saved us this amount doing this way. You could have saved us this amount doing this way. You could have saved us $1,000 doing this. What about this? What about this? And he's making his point. And I'm like, damn, this dude's really fucking smart. Like, these guys have been, like, fumbling over the figures and he just came in. He was like, razor sharp. Like, why don't you do this? Why don't you do that? Why don't you do that? You could have done that. What are you doing?

And he made his point. And I was like, okay, I'm impressed. But then he kept going at this guy and going at this guy and going at this guy. And go to the point where the guy literally almost started to cry. Like, it was, it wasn't a physical beat down, but it was an emotional. one will beat down. Yeah. And he just kept going. And finally, you know, I'm just supposed to be

a fly on the wall. Yeah. Finally, you guys can't see this unless you're watching the video, but I just went like that. You did the emoji.

I put my, like, what the fuck? The chug, like what? Like, what are you doing? Yeah. It's too much.

Yeah. Like, it's just limes, bro. Right. Yeah, it's just limes. So they pull me out. Ivanka pulls me out into the elevator and she's like,

listen, I know that look really bad. I knew, I know how that came off, but you got to understand. It's not personal. That's just how we get the best margins on our deal. Like, by-

Yelling at people? Emotionally abusing them. Destroyed. He destroyed this dude. Can I tell you something? What? For that, yeah?

He's my hero. Right. Okay. When I bought my apartment and they told me it was going to be six weeks to renovate and then they fucked me over for six months. Right. Six months. They fucking lied to me.

Right. And fucked me over. Right. Stole my money for six months. And I didn't have. have the balls. I was too poor to yell at them. I was too poor to hire another contractor. Right. I was just at their fucking mercy. The fact that some hero could walk in a room and curse out a contractor who was fucking them over. Oh my God. Well, the guy hadn't done anything yet.

They were just planning it. But okay, maybe you can say the guy was setting it up together, better margins. I don't know. I thought it was one of the more outrageous things I ever seen. I did the shrug. That was problem number one. Problem number two was I wrote a passage where I described Trump Towers as Glitzy. And they didn't like that. She pulled me in. She said, why would you describe my family's building as Glitzy?

What's wrong with Glitzy? Well, I was like, it's literally the definition of Glitzy. It's cold all over. It's like covered in gold. So she was like, why would you try to portray us that way? as, you know, glitzy implies like... Cheap. Cheap.

Cheap. Garish, not classy. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So that was a problem. Then the other problem is she said, I used too many colloquialisms. And this is where we had a problem.

I don't even know what that is. It's the shit that Puerto Rican served during holiday. It's great, actually. It's like egg gnaw, got some rum in it. I love it. I had some last week. Tiffany had his watch us today out.

So she goes to me, she says, maybe your rapper's friends talk that way. But I don't talk that way. Whoa. And I said, excuse me? And she goes, okay, maybe that came off wrong. And I was like, all right. We got a problem here.

So you pulled out. Well, I mean, I would have kept doing it, frankly, because I won the money. But so what they did is she came in and, you know, she gave me this big speech. I've given it a lot of consideration. I really like you, but it's not working out. And I was like, look, I was miserable. I was talking about this with my wife the other day. I was like going around hoping a car would hit me and just like break my legs.

So I just quit. Why didn't you just quit? I should have just quit. I'm a worker. Just quit, I should have. And I would, but I just had a baby.

That's why you still got limes, dude. Why, because I just don't quit it? You don't want to quit it. Right. I should just quit this lime shit, bro. Just be gone, thoughts.

So anyway, long story, long story short, they get rid of me. Then they go and they do the same thing. What? But I'm showing you the Trump business model. So they get rid of me.

Yeah. Then they go to somebody else. I think it was like a woman in California. And they said, listen, we got this book. It's three quarters of the way done. It's a $40,000 job because it's really almost done. Do it for 20. Hot.

So, and you look at the same speech. So they get $100,000 job for maybe they paid me $10 or 15. I just gave, I was like, I don't care about the money. I handed over all the notes. I was like, I just went out of this shit. And so they get a, they get $100,000 job for, I'm going to be honest with you, Chris. I bought you in there because I thought she's going to tell us a story about Donald Trump's thin eagle.

You just told us how you got the tariff done. You know, dude. You know, yeah. That's a great guy. I've never, listen, listen. Or the deal, huh? I've never said that I don't think Trump is smart. You've never heard me say he's an idiot.

You've never, I think the guy is. He's dumb at politics. That's what people like. Well, I think he has zero moral center and I think he has zero self-awareness. I mean, the other thing was they pulled me out for doing the show. shrug and maybe you shouldn't do that shrug in my position but I interviewed one of Ivanka's friends same thing she got kicked off his private jet

because they were watching TV and a joke came on about his hair and she laughed at and they pulled off. They pulled her off the fucking jet and they're like you don't do that. They landed the plane and then kicked her off. I don't know exactly how it happened but she was like whatever you do, she was trying to hit me. She was like

whatever you do, don't make a joke about this guy. You know Trump would hate you Andrew? Trump would hate you You and Trump could never be friends Why would we want to be friends? I'm just saying if y'all was Because you like the joke Like he would hate you

He could dish it out He can make jokes He can make jokes He can make oh our teeth are gonna fall out He loves that stuff This is what I've learned Just from being in comedy In general

Most people who like dish it out Cannot take it Comedy, that's the fucking media Life all that And it's so disappointing Bro because because when you meet these people You know you're like Oh man they're good ballbusters

They're fun and then you want to go back and forth with them and they get super sensitive. You're like, oh, it's a facade. They don't know. They're not confrontational. So it's like when you have that confrontation with them. And it's not confrontation in a bad way.

It's that when they throw something out, like, I don't know. Oh, we got this. Let's go. You realize this motherfucker's sensitive. And then they break down. I can't work with people like that. Bro.

I hate it. It's one of the easiest things working with you is I can say whatever. Bro. I mean, I think the shit is funny. I laugh when Duval's fucking with me. I laugh when Donnell Rob is fucking. I think Donnell's text? Wild.

Wild. Wild. You think his Instagram is wild. What he's? Bro. I'm going to show you something Donnell said. You can't repeat it, though. I'm going to show you this shit had me rolling this week.

Because he's fucked with me about the whole six, nine shit. Right. And I'm explaining to him sarcasm and hyperbole. All right, look, right. So look. So he sends me this picture. No, I got to show you. He goes, a bet is a, he sends me this picture.

So it's me on all fours and Speedos with 6'9 coming out of jail. And he says, a bet is a bet, son. I say it's called sarcasm, son. The man ran around telling people to suck his dick all the time. You're a comedian, you should understand a joke. He said, nope, nope, nope, nope. I said, Chappelle, Pryor and Biggie have all a joke like that. You're not a comedian, son.

You're one of the most powerful nigger voices in our coaches, son. You help niggas with mental illness. Comedians not helping with mental illness issue, son. Open when he loves you, and so to CNN. You're not a comedian, son. I said, Biggie wasn't a comedian either. Grow up. Stop being homophobic.

I'm just fucking with him right here. So he goes, people don't take me serious. We can't take you funny, son. I said, Biggie said you look so good. I suck on your daddy's dick. Hello? You still there? Explain Biggie.

So he talks about this gay brother. My brother, Chuck, he said, A bet is a bet. And he wants the winner. So he goes, I won't interrupt you in 6-9. Stop being hoodophobic. Hoodofobic. Hoodofobic is great.

So I said, explain Biggie. He said, nope, probably was a ghostwriter, son. I said, real niggas don't give a fuck about shit like that. Chappelle, prior, Biggie, real niggas. He said, the streets didn't know you fucked with real niggas, son. They thought wax is the only one. You can't dodge this one with your big words, son. Don Lemon wants the truth.

And then he said, he says, plus you have too much history with 6'9. We saw how serious you were about him beating that case. Treyway, drop one of the clues bombs. So I come back with the biggie shit. I say, I miss the old New York when y'all didn't care about Biggie saying he wouldn't fuck RuPaul over escape. Don't repeat this. No good he put.

Come on. You can't do that to the audience. Okay. So then I will tell the audience this point. So listen. So then I put the laughing emoji and then he put Mad niggas would have fucked RuPaul over escape.

That's fact, son. I said, oh shit, let me screenshot this. He goes, sarcasm. I'm a comedian. But I'm saying all this. at to say that's how we joke. Yes. I do not like people who dish it, but can't take it.

Yes. I actually despise the way. And those people low-key get exposed, man. All the fucking times. All the time. Yeah. What did I tell you this week, Taylor? All the fucking time. Who, who? I'm not saying. I'm not saying. Who? Can I say?

No. Do I know? I'm not saying. Male or female? Stop. I'm not saying. Oh, I know. I'm just saying a lot of people can dish it. Oh, I know. A lot of people can dish it, but they can't take it, bro. I know. Can we get a soundboard? And you know what I hate about? Those type of people?

Chris's people? You can say the smallest thing. Like, not even like a... No, no, no, just a jab. Fall Park. Fall Park. Oh. Fall Park. I listened to a great podcast with Peter Vesey, the basketball writer the other day. And he accused Park.

I forget. I was going to say what happened to Joe. I forget him and Andrew fell out. Oh, okay. Y'all still ain't reconcile? We don't talk. It's no big deal. I don't hold nothing.

I can't hold gross. I ain't even heard. I can't even heard you from Joe in a minute. He used to text every night. Anyway, he, uh, Vessie senior called out Barclay as being one of those people. Who does what? Who will say anything about anybody. Yo.

But if you come at Barclay even a little bit, he's like, he's the biggest phony of all time. The butt of every joke on NBA tonight. He is literally, they make fun of him nonstop. He allows. I think that is the biggest horseshit comment. Maybe if you like call out his criticism, I don't know, maybe he called

his criticism of his MBA career, it's different. But as far as having a sense of humor about himself and being self-deprecating and like letting Shaq tackle him and beat him up and like emasculate him. He purposely talks stupid. Yeah. No, dude, he is the biggest.

Yeah, I don't believe that about Bobby. I don't buy that. Maybe Barclay just don't like Peter. Facts. And that's the other thing too. And Peter's low-key, the biggest. Really? Yeah, I mean, it was a great interview, but I was like, I could see why people don't like this guy.

He doesn't give a fuck. He was the troll back in a day. Like, remember when Carmelon lost the fucking, it was after game six, he just lost the finals. To the Bulls? To the Bulls? And he's like, is this the lowest point of your career? And it's like, for what? That's a good question.

The guy's still sweating. That's a great time. That's what he said. He said, look, my job is to go in there and ask the tough questions. That's a great time. They talked about that. Is it a great question to ask if losing your first NBA finals is the low point of your career? By the way, if you ask LeBron, that LeBron will say no.

No, no, no. LeBron would have a great answer to that question. LeBron was like, I live real life. No, no, no, no, that'd be life. He says it's the low point of your career. Career or sport. Of course, it's the low point of your career. In my perspective, I don't think that was called low point in school.

Hey, if you just get out the pool and someone goes, is this the wetest you've ever been? Low point of calls career. Low point of cause career when they tried to make him play Magic Johnson. when Maddie Johnson had HIV. That's what he did not want to be up to. That's what Carl, contemplating retirement. His T-cell count low.

That's what Carl was a fact. That was the problem. That T-cells were dipping. T-cells were low. When the T-sails were low is an issue. Facts and facts. We're getting scientific. That's when Carl absolutely was not going on that quote with Magic Johnson.

That's when he was contemplating retirement. Carl said, what if you bleeds on me? Now, think about how times have changed. back then where he could say something like that. Have they changed? Yes, you know why? How? How?

Ain't that what you're thinking? And exactly, a bunch of people Act like they're not thinking that? We didn't know we were uneducated to HIV. I was a kid. I had no idea what HIV was. Now I'm educated. Think the same way.

No, stop. I think no differently. Shut up, man. I'm dead ass. You're telling me somebody got the full-blown Hiv. Yeah. He doesn't. What?

But he thought he did. But he doesn't. No, but who knows if someone does back or not. But now you're saying someone with full-blown-Hiv, you guys are playing a picture. pickup game. My man is in the post. Elbows out. Fighting for boards.

If he starts bleeding. Diving for fucking balls. If he starts bleeding, I'm calling timeout. If. If. I'm calling time out. Son. We're not taking these risks. They do that in NBA now, by the way.

We're not taking these risks. Do you know they do that in NBA now? What? If you start bleeding, they stop the game. And that's because of that. I don't want your blood on me, bro. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. So you can't be upset for people for feeling like that.

Brough. No, you can't. Why do we even have to, like, argue this? Dude, if I get that shit, I'm dead potentially. I have every right to protect myself. It's not prejudice. You can live with the hip now. You can live, but then you can't fuck nothing.

You got to explain fucking. You got to let people know. Yeah. That's all. Bro. If you were playing naked basketball and someone's like, I just want to let everybody here know I got herpes, you going to play?

Yes. Why would you play naked basketball? Have you, you don't have white friends? You have one. First one. I wouldn't be playing naked basketball. If you and your homies is playing naked basketball, right? Post moves only.

It's mad people living with... It's mad people living with HIV. Like, you know, it's not the death sentence that it once was. You just got to let people be aware of your status. Like, it's actually some cool ways they could, like, market people with HIV. Okay. Easy. Go.

Narty by nature. You're down with HIV. Yeah, you know what I'm having, have a whole hotline. I'm serious. Run commercials. I'm dead. Run commercials, run ads. So you have a community for people who all have HIV and they can date each other.

Right. That can work. Right. I actually think, and I'm not 100% certain of this, but I think there are different strands of it. And I think that they can give each other the different strands, which increases the effect of the disease potential. I know nothing about that. Of the virus. Am I right about that, Chris?

Kind of like limes. Kind of like limes, kind of like cystic fibrosis. Yep. There's different levels of limes? Bro, there's lemon. They got... Sincerous. Lime.

They got a whole Moscow mule, bro. You ought to be careful. But listen, so listen, to put a cap on this Trump shit, where does it go from here? Because we know the Senate's not going to vote to impeach him. Right. So, Charlemann, you kind of understand this better than I do. What is the political process exactly going on? The House votes to get him impeached, so he's impeached.

So you need a 51% majority in the House. And 67, I think it's either 57 or 67. 67. You need two-thirds majority. Okay, that's what it is. So House needs 51% to impeach. Now, that then goes to the Senate. They need two-thirds to get him removed from office.

And it's not going to happen. I mean, the Senate's controlled by the Republicans right now. Right. So it's not going to happen. But we've been saying this. Like, there's nobody who has not been saying this. So the goal of this is just. to disrupt and try to like tarnish the brand for 2020.

I think the goal is checks and balances, man. I mean, listen, if you believe in country over party, if you believe in, you know, president's not being lawless, then you should agree with Trump being impeached. And by the way, it might help Trump. It might help Trump. That's the thing is I think these types of things

just emboldened his base, man. But I think it might help him to let him know. Oh, operate better. I fucked up. I'm fucking up. You know, when stuff like this happens, it's got to be at least one person. Maybe it's Ivanka.

Somebody's got to be at least one person that's it. Pop, you fucked up, yeah. Chris, make the call. I got it. Make the call. I'm serious. Like, yo, he just made help him.

And she is the one that he listens to. It's clear that out of the entire family, she's the one. Definitely not the other daughter. I would like to know what she thinks. She's under a bridge. I would love to know what she thinks about this. She's been very, very quiet.

I would love to know what she thinks about this whole situation. I think she supports her father 100%. I mean, you can support him, but you can still say he's wrong on. Nah, I think she thinks he's misunderstood. I think she struck me as someone who was, I mean, you could say any child is brainwashed about their parents. Dude, any child loves their parent, but also when you see your parent succeed against all odds, right. Even if you're not the child, you start to believe what they say.

Right. I'm sure early in your career, Charlemann, you started to experience this with the people around you. They stop thinking you were crazy and they started thinking, oh, shit, maybe he's right. Do you remember your peers earlier in your career when you started to like... No. Never once when you came to New York?

I haven't got to that level yet. Hold on. When you came to New York and then breakfast clubs start to blow up. No. Your peers didn't start going... They still think I'm fucking crazy and gay. Where's the gay part? I don't know. Maybe it's...

That pain doesn't do that to you, man. Man, what has happened? Who's got the board? You got the board? Was that you saying that? That was me saying that. I don't even know what I was talking about. No, I wasn't talking about Surge.

I was talking about a woman. I might have been talking about the little girl that got picked her kidnapping in New York. She did it for her boyfriend. I thought she did it because her mom wanted to take her back to Honduras. And she didn't want to leave that little dirty Bronx dick she had in goddamn the BX. Why would she have to? Because they moved back to Honduras.

They were supposed to be. The word on the curve is. Yeah. The family was moving back to Honduras. Why? I don't know. They're from Honduras. Wanted to move back to Honduras,

and she had a boyfriend in the Bronx who's... Usually it's the other way, right? Usually people are, like, dying to get from Honduras to America. Duval's been in Honduras for two weeks. So he had to go check out what they want to get to so bad. I don't know. Dr. Sebi's from Honduras. People I know from Honduras love Honduras.

Right. Yeah, I know my man, Mr. G. I mean, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I think Honduras probably like any place up. Everybody leaves their country loves it. You ever knows that? Like very few people like come from their country and they go, nah, fuck that shit.

Well, Dr. Seppi lived there. Like Sebi was living in Honduras. That's what left eye got killed, right? Let's go to, not get killed, but that's what she died in her argument. Like people go to Honduras. Like I said, Duval's there now. But she didn't want to move back. And so it said she faked the kidnapping with her boyfriend in order not to move back.

So I could have been talking about that situation and saying that penis will do it to you. Because the penis will make you make bad decisions. You know what I mean? Ah, but isn't her boyfriend super old? That's what I heard. I don't know if that's true or not he is. Oh, yeah, he's committing a crime. Yeah, they got to handle that.

But yeah, I never got that from my peers. From your peers. They still think. It's luck? I'm crazy. I don't know. But you know what, though? I know history will be kind.

Yes. That I know. That I know to all, at some point. Maybe not your peers, but what about, I think people who have achieved success recognize success. and they recognize the, I don't know, the qualities that get you there. Yes.

So these other people... Yes. Not peers, but people who have already achieved success. They go, ah, he's got it. He's on to something. And I think regular people, I think people that are just, you know, on the outside looking in peers,

no. Because peers are competing. They're competing. Yeah. So they'll always want to paint you as crazy or off. Did you... I'm curious of you,

experiences as well. Did you experience love from like other markets? Like DJs from other markets. Did they show you love before the ones that were like close to you? DJs from other markets show. Like did West Coast show you love? Because first like, because there wasn't this competition. It was like, yo, that new guy's dope. And I don't got to worry about him. I mean, radio personalities show love from other places. Like, you know, I got plenty of friends in the radio industry. My man had, Kendry G. But I think that, um, you never, you don't realize that that these people are also in competition with you until they have a opportunity

to take a shot at you. You know what I'm saying? So I've seen things like say if, you know, say if me and Angelouet, they say me and Angel E, beefing or whatever, whatever. Then I'll see other personalities and comments on Instagram. Not even just ye, but just like shade room or whatever saying little things like, yeah, he should have stuck up for her

or this and that. But when they see me, it's a whole other story. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So publicly, you'll take an opportunity to take a shot. But you, and I said that before, I said, you know, when it comes to situations like that, you got to be very careful because that's when people try to infiltrate.

And that's when you really realize how they feel about you and your situation. Because they really just tired of seeing you fucking win. So if they think that the Titanic could be sinking, they get in there. They want to be investing that demise. There you fucking go. Let's put some weight on this shit and make this shit sink faster. Interesting. You know what I mean?

So it ain't even really about her. It's more about sinking the whole boat. That's it. Because at the end of the day, if you take two guys and a woman, put them in a studio. You take this guy and put him in a studio, like whatever it is, why aren't, why isn't your show doing what their show is doing? Right. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah.

So it's still a competition. Yeah, yeah. Regardless of we're in the same market or not, it's still a competition. it's still a competition because like we talked about earlier, the world is fucking flat. So being that the world is flat. YouTube videos go out, social media follows,

all of this different stuff. So why are they doing millions of views and we're not? Simple. Yeah. Simple. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. So your peers will never really truly give it up. But that's why I give it up.

Yeah. I give it up because I'm not insecure about my position. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I guess, yeah. Like I give it. That's how I've always felt. That's how I've always felt. I've always just tried to support the people I thought were good. And now I have really specific tastes. Like, I don't think everybody's good. I'm going to tell you something though. Yeah. 2020, bro. Yeah. It's just like, you know, when you know the cards that you're playing. Yeah. You know the seeds that have been playing it. Yeah. You know what's coming.

Sometimes you just got to talk a little shit. Bro. 2020, man, I'm going to have to start talking just a little bit more shit. Can I just... Can we start now? Okay, let's go. Can we start talking a little shit? I just, because I really just, a lot of, I just don't think it's almost on some Roy Jones shit. Like, y'all must be fucking, like, by the way, maybe you just don't know. Maybe you just don't know who's really pushing things in this culture. Oh, you know what, dude? Who's really connecting these dots?

Who's really moving and shaking? Constantly fight for your rep. like we are living or what have you done for me lately society man and like and there ain't nothing wrong with that because we're out there talking people but you need to constantly show what is going on. I'll give you a perfect example. I don't like talking about it. Don't rest on your laurels, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

I don't know who laurel is. What do you mean? I don't know either. I really just said that with no clue what that means. I know, I know, I know, I know, rest on your laurels. I'm like, rest on your laurels. I'm like, listen that mean we don't rest on this person? was using hyperbole.

We had a brother, you know, you know, I'm, you know, you know, the N.O.I is my people. Yes. Nation of Islam.

Nation of Islam. My people too. We've had Minister Farrakhan, the honor of Minister Louis Farrakhan. I first interviewed him in 2005.

Yeah. I've interviewed him for his, his documentary that you can buy on the final call. com. I've had him

on breakfast club twice. You know, brother Wesley Muhammad had him on. Brother Tony Muhammad had him on. It's another very dynamic speaker in the nation of Islam.

His name is brother Noir Muhammad. I've been following Noir for a long time. A couple weeks ago, I get a text from my man, brother Don Muhammad, and he was like, we need equal time. And whenever the brothers in the nation say they need equal time, that means that somebody has said something about them that they would like to rebuttal, right? So on Joe Button's podcast,

I guess Joe asked the question, who killed Malcolm X? and somebody in the room with very wide hips said something to the extent of, you know, he said something to the extent of, he said something to the extent of, you know who did it and basically said it was the N-O-I. And so the N-O-I wanted to rebuttal.

So I connected Joe with Brother Don. Yeah. Brother Nore was supposed to be on Joe's actual podcast, but I think it ended up being a call-in or whatever. Yeah. I have no problem doing things like that. The reason I have no problem doing things like that is because I want people who have

something to say to be on every platform possible. And I understand Joe has a platform that a lot of people listen to. So if that kind of, if that kind of, you know, and a false narrative is out there, I want to give the brothers in the NOI chance to clean that up. And I'm glad that. What they say? I thought that was the case.

Oh, no, that's definitely not the case. Who killed them? It wasn't the NOI. It was the FBI. But I mean, it's like, it was the craziest thing in the world to think that anybody else would kill Malcolm X in that time. where J. Edgar Hoover was taking out every black organization. Right.

Like the same people who took out Martin Luther King Jr. Same people who took out Fred Hampton. The only difference is it goes back to what I was talking about earlier. If you can cause disruption in a team, at a time when a team is having turmoil, yeah. But didn't Malcolm break away? You could kill two birds with one stone.

Didn't he break away from the N. Yeah, but that wasn't, that was because he didn't agree with Elijah Muhammad's moral stance when it came to fathering children with other women. Right. So morally he felt he felt betrayed. Because this is a guy that he believed in. You know, he looked up to this.

This is a guy that taught him. He also, I think, went to Mecca and felt like he found a different version of Islam. That was part of it too. He saw white Muslims and things like that. That was a part of it too. But I always say that was a moment where the student should have became. Oh, he went to Mecca. He's like, I can fuck white bitches again?

No, that's not what I'm. It's let. But listen, got to be very careful when talking about certain people Because when we talk about the rap was pulling up Rappers may not pull up But them brothers in bowtile as well They don't miss up there

They are scarier Bro. Dude, brother Muzon and the wire Do you remember that character? Brother Muzon. He was the guy that they hired They had a guy come down from New York The fucking hitman

And he was there in the suit and tie Oh, amazing character. Anyway, go on. Yeah. So, long story short, connect Norrie with, connect Brother Don and Joe, Brother Nouri gets on the podcast,

whatever. And they spoke. So, of course, of course I'm going to have Brother Nourri on the Breakfast Club. Right. You had Brother Nourri in the breakfast club? So now people like,

yo, you're just trying to do. My God. Yeah. And that was the first time I ever felt like saying, you stupid motherfuckers. Right. Who the fuck you think connected them?

Like, and that's what I'd be saying when I'm talking about, like, this isn't new. This isn't new territory. Like, we've been, at least I've been doing stuff like this and giving brothers like this platform. How many people would even make that comment? Enough for me to notice.

Like what? Like, but that's just me, though. I notice all that bullshit. Yeah, like, I feel like you might even be given oxygen to it. The moral of the story is I don't give a fuck. Y'all motherfuckers going to learn in 2020 by hookah by goddamn crook. You sound like you're giving a fuck. No.

You sound like someone called your hotel glitzy. No. No. No. No. I just like dealing with the reality of the situation. Let's deal with reality. Let's stop with the falsehoods and let's stop with the false narratives.

All right? That's my whole thing. You want your credit and you deserve your credit. I'm not even going to call it credit. It's not even about credit. It's just about what's truth and what's not true. I think it's simple as that. It's really about what's truth and what's not true.

So if you make a false statement, and by the way, all of us have the right to do that. If somebody makes a false statement about you, you're allowed to tell them. exactly what the truth is. A hundred percent. That's it. And you have to control your narrative because if you don't, the people will.

And some people don't fuck with you. So they're going to control it in a way that you don't like. What do they say? History's written by the winners. But I will say this, though. I think that, I think this week shows you can't escape reality. And you can't argue against reality. You can say whatever you want.

You can try to paint whatever narrative you want online. You can say whatever you want about people online. that shit will not stop the truth from being the motherfucking truth. I don't care how many people don't believe it, right? I don't care how many people believe a lie. It's still a lie. I don't care how many people don't believe the truth. It's still the truth.

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I basically, I just signed a deal for my first network stand-up special. Big Dick Shalti. Building. Young Hesdy. Hey, man. Middle-age Hesie. Middle-age-H-H-E. It's so true.

It's so true. Middle-Age-H-E. Can you say who you sign with? Well, I sign, I can't say the company that is releasing it. I can say the production company that I partner up with it on it and comedy dynamics. But I'll tell the story. I told the longer version of the story on Flagrant 2. You guys get a checkout if you want to hear the whole thing.

But basically what happened is long story short is when I was releasing views from the system, my last special. I was in L.A. a week before. and I tell this story just because I think it's important to understand your worth, right? And it's like a week before I'm about to release it, we get a call from this production company called Comedy Dynamics. And they're like, hey, we want to talk to you. We'd like to potentially release your special now. Before that, nobody wants to release it all, right? I sit down, I'm like, I'm about to release it on YouTube.

And they go, don't release it. We'll make you an offer. And I go, okay, it's got to be a million dollars, right? Now, nobody else wanted it, but I put the value at a million dollars. Now they go, I don't know about that, but we think you're great, blah, blah, blah. And I said, that's not totally, I released on YouTube. You know, theaters, tours start to happen. I have a lot of success.

Everything's great. You got hot, son. I got hot. Don't be humble with this shit. Oh, no. You got hot, motherfucker. All right? The YouTube numbers went up.

It was crazy. You started selling out arenas all over the motherfucking place. It started putting your shit on Instagram. You got hot. I got hot out there. So I go do this. It shit was good. I go do this festival called Just for Laughs.

I come back. It's good. We get a call from Netflix. Netflix goes, hey, we want to give Andrew Shultz a slot in this show called The Degenerates, where I do 15 minutes

with a bunch of other comics, also do 15 minutes. Donnell did it, you know, and a few other people are focused on it. I wanted to do that for you. The way I looked at it was this. I go,

I put my stuff out for free on Twitter and Instagram and YouTube. Like, I got nothing. I got nothing wrong. I'm taking 25 grand for, I think they're off in 25 grand and 15 minutes. So we're like, well, I'm interested in it. You know, like,

the next day we get a call from comedy dynamics that other. production company. They say, hey, what's Andrew up to? You know, we heard JFL is really good. What's Andrew up to? My agent, TJ, shouts to TJ, was really smart. He goes, he just got an offer from Netflix.

He don't say it was for it. He goes, we got an offer from Netflix. So they go, don't sign anything. Let us make them an offer. We'll hit you up in a second. We go back to Netflix trying to stall. So we basically ask them for a bunch of things we know that they're not going to give us, right? Can Andrew be the first episode?

Can he have his face on the thing? can they have all this kind of shit like that. We know, you know how the fucking bureaucracy is. They got to go ask a million people. We have a couple of days. Comedy Dynamics comes back with a contract. My agent sits me down. He's so fucking excited.

He sits me down. He goes, here it is. Check it out. I look at the contract. The contract is for the next special. That's for a million dollars. For you? For me.

Okay. I go, this is fucking unbelievable. But it's a shame we're going to have to say no. And he literally had a heart attack. He was like, we just got it. I was like, well, that's how much the last special is for. Things have changed now. My dick is bigger. The dick grew. The dick grew. The dick grew. Is that all you? This summer

dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got summer dick, though. Hey, bro. Hey, hey, it's all me, though. Yeah, it's all you. Yeah. I'm a lot. That all you? That's right. That's right. You need the wax line that. Damn, that looked big as hell. Come on. Tell me more. This shit excites me. Come on. So, so I say, I say, I say we got to say no. What do you talk? I go, it's the principal. It's like, I don't, for me, it's never about the money.

I've been giving my stuff away for free, and I'll give it away for free in a fucking heartbeat on YouTube. So you got to tell him, no. And he goes, I can't believe I'm doing this. So we go back, we say no. We get the call back a couple days later. And, you know, the price went up. So who's it with?

Comedy Dynamics of the production company. Okay. And then we. It's not a network, but it's a. So it's a production company that makes it. No, no, no, no, that makes it. And then we sold it to a network that I can't say yet. But you guys will know in the future.

And I gave a hint. Some people might forget it. I can't legally say anything right now. But I gave a little bit of a hint. But the point is, is that, like, for a while, I gave away all my content for free. And I think what happens a lot of times is, like, you're in this business, too.

It's like, we give away so much for free. But just because you give someone away doesn't mean it's valueless. Bro, at least to give a crack away. I'm being honest. Like, you get crackaway to let the fiends, like, yo, motherfuckers got that good-ass dope over there. And when it's time to hit them over the head. That's it.

Hit them over the head. There it is. A little, here'll take a little $10 bump. Boom. Ooh, shit. Yeah. And you come back with Crackheads,

they spend them three or $400. Like, that's just the, that's the nature of business. You got to give out a little free product every night on this. So you think they'd be in front of the mall, giving out the little samples of cakes and shit. Yeah. That's right.

That's right. That's right. So it's one of those things where it was like, this is pretty cool. And then we just had to decide where we're going to do the special. So I wanted to do it in LA. And I thought it'd be really cool

because as the Hollywood, you know, Matrix is kind of crumbling, this becomes one of the first, if not the first special where it's like completely people driven. It's like the entertainment revolution where now you got to have your fan base and your fan base is going to bring you on top.

Like the people listen and watching all these podcasts and clips and everything like that, they literally got this deal sign. And they love you in a different. way because you've built this coat like following from the ground up. These motherfuckers have been... They built it. Listening to Brinidius for years.

You know what I mean? Watching Guy cold. Like, this motherfucker is that probably was fucking with you six, seven years ago. And they're like, that's our guy. That's, bro. And when you win, is their win. And I never understood this. Duval would always post about it.

He's like, yo, my win is your win. And I didn't understand it. We released the tickets for the special tapings. We're taping April 11th in L.A. And I gave a pre-sale. code and the pre-sale code was going to be available Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, this comes out Thursday today. And I just wanted to be for Flagrant 2, brilliant idiots, and then anybody follows me on Instagram, YouTube, so they would know about it. We're doing it the Orphium Theater in L.A. That's the theater of Dolomite shot at.

You know, the one of the final scene where he goes, and I'm doing it for that reason because I love everything that he represented. He fucking went to the people. When is it? April 11th. I'll be there. I would love you to be there. I'll put that on the calendar. And we released the tickets, pre-sale. and they sold out in 12 hours both shows. Wow. This is a massive theater, bro.

Wow. I could not fucking believe. Like, I was, like, crying on the street, like a bitch. But, like, a bitch outside of this restaurant that I was having. You're crying like a fucking man. You're crying like a man. You're crying like a man who put the motherfucking work in, and now that work is paying off. And the crazy thing about reality, right?

That's why I say you can't argue against reality. The crazy thing about reality is you get back what you put the fucking. God, you've been working. You got hot. So now you're getting your fucking just dude. That's what the fuck is going to happen. Always. It never fails.

There's not one person I know that has talent who works motherfuckin' hard and did not get something back out of it. Yeah. You got your just do. I just felt amazing, man, to like... It feels surreal. It felt surreal to have that many people want me to win. And like people want to fly there for that experience and feel so

invested in my success. It was overwhelming, dude. Like, because it could be lonely the business, you know? And like, when you realize you have that made people ruin for you and like, bro, it just, yeah, this is the time when you got to really put

your helmet on and really grab your motherfucking arsenal. Because when you're so used to fighting, right? Yeah. And now you finally got what you've been fighting for. You're like, I'm not used to this feeling. You know what I'm saying? Lokey.

Do you know what it? No, what it makes me do is like For me, I cannot wait to deliver the fucking best performances in my life. You can't wait to shoot! I cannot wait. Yeah, you can't wait to fucking shoot. It's a different, it's a different fucking feeling, man. I'm like hungry for it

because I know it's something that we all built and it's like, when you put the bricks together, you know, for your own house, it's different. You're not shooting from a place of defense, you're shooting from a place of offense. This is what we're doing. We dictated this shit. Now you got to defend what you built. Yes. That's it. And it's like,

I mean, I'm just so excited. And just to let you guys know, if we're going to try to add another show, maybe that's Sunday. And I'm talking to production about it, or maybe try to find more seats or whatever like that in it. So if any of you guys are just hearing about this now, we could make that happen. But just keep, you know, tabs on Instagram, Twitter or whatever like that. I'll probably post about it. But it was a- Thank you, man.

I'm fucking proud of you. I really appreciate you and just, like, giving me access to so many of your fans and like. I don't know. Let me do it this. No, you do. man, you played a huge role in all of this. And it's like, I am forever grateful. And it's one of those things that, like,

I've tried to pass down as well. It's like, I recognize, and I see you do this a lot, you're like, if you see someone with talent, you'll give them an opportunity. And they got to run with the opportunity first. But you'll give them an opportunity. And it's like, that's some, you know, people always say, you know, Schultz,

you know, Shultz got Charlemagne and this, that. And I'm like, yes, but you will have a Charlemagne. somebody will if you're good someone will recognize you and they'll give you a fucking alley-up and you got to go with it you got to run with it and it's like

I hope that I hope you feel like I ran with it and I and I I did to the best thing and I always tell you the best thing you have done is paying forward to other people yeah it's really important

to me do that don't stop doing the podcast because this shit about to be worth so much fucking money this to me bro I that's the announcement too so there's announcement too right

We've been working for a while. I've been working for months on this, but I just built out this new content, you know, factory in Brooklyn. And it's got, you know, multiple podcast studios, like a little live performance space. Like, it's, I mean, it's got the green screen.

It's got everything that we need to keep, like, churning out content. Obviously, I know it's far away to do idiots there. We should have our own space for idiots. But it's one of those things where it's like, getting an opportunity like this with the special allows me to reinvest in these studios and, like, be able to put out all this shit. And it's just, it's just dope to be on the forefront of creation and, like, especially in entertainment and, like, shifting entertainment.

You know what I mean? It's just like everything we're doing is disrupting. It's rebellion. And, like, every rebellion or, like, revolution, it's the same thing. It's the people. The people decide they're fed up with the regular shit they're being fed. Yes, indeed. And they rock with people who are giving them the shit they want.

And it's just so cool to be. I am so excited. I am so excited for 2020 to 2025. Yeah. 2020 to 2025, y'all motherfuckers is going to see some shit that y'all have never ever seen before. Yeah. And you're going to see it by all the motherfuckers that you never thought you would see it from. What do you mean?

What do you mean? Us, nigger. Oh, okay. The Duvalls of the world. The Andrew Shulton. But we win in, bro. We've been crazy. We've been winning for a long fucking time.

No. When I see Blueface talking to Duval, I'm like, Like, Blueface, sit down. Don't even talk. Like, knock it off. Like, Duval been winning out here for 20 plus years. Yeah, yeah. Before he was putting out hit records and all of that shit like that.

Stop, stop, stop. And Duval makes better music than Blue Face. Duvaldman texting me all morning about. About what? Honduras? No, he actually asked me some. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Oh, no, he asked me about Trump.

And then he said, hey, they really bring a good time back. Whatever. But I don't know what the context is. But the more of the story is, when I see those guys like blue face, I'm like, Blueface, don't relax, kid. Come on, bro. Like, knock it off. You know what I mean?

Like, you've been in the game a year or so. Duval been in this game 20-something years making money. People don't understand. You don't get it. Like, you're having a nice little moment. That's cute. All right. Duvall been around for 20-plus years.

He didn't even realize that he was criticizing himself, like, in the blue face at one point, goes, yeah, Duvall had a nice little viral moment. Everybody has those. It's like, who's talking? Who is saying that? Exactly. You are that. Exactly.

And you're experiencing the slow decline of your viral moment. Like Duval didn't go platinum? Yeah, he went gold. You know what I'm saying? He went gold. That's a hard-earned gold. How many comedians go gold with an album? He had a number one song in the fucking country on the hip-hop and R&B charts.

Stop it. And he's like, comedians shouldn't. That was nothing, Bluefin said. He said, comedians shouldn't do music. Jamie Fox, Eddie Murphy. and he was like, stick to your podcast. You know it's a lot of rappers

that are podcasters now? You know what I mean? Wow. And he was like, he's like radio press and you got the clip? Well, Blueface? Oh.

Listen, if you're a comedian and you try to jump in the rap lane, it's not going to work out the way you think it's going to work out because you've got four million followers, five million followers. Then people follow you because you're a comedian.

So once you try to rap, they're not going to take you. Can I give an interesting example? You know who referred to? to herself as a comedian for years before she became the biggest female rapper in history. Cardi B. If you look at Cardi's earlier post...

Yeah, she used to do sketches. Yeah, she used to do sketches. And she called herself a comedian. Yeah. Now, it wasn't stand-up specifically, but she didn't enter the game as like a rapper, rapper. Yeah. By the way, D.C. Young Fly, he's going to blow up into music. Oh, is it happening? Is it happening? Yes.

DC Young Fly reminds me of, like, what Jamie Fox does. Like, he's... He's got that level of talent. He's talented. He can sing his ass off. Like, it's only a matter of time before D.C. gets a record. And that following that he has with comedy is going to blow the fuck up.

So I don't know what the fuck Blueface is talking about. Then I saw him even, then comedians, comedians can do damn anything everything. Comedians turn in the radio personalities. Yeah. Comedians turn in the podcasts. Comedians can be active. Like, comedians have such. They have longevity that rappers like Blueface usually don't have.

And I've not a dis to blue face. It's just the truth. We've seen a million of those coming gold. You know what I mean? But Bruce, Bruce still out here getting his god damn money. Still. Right? Duval been out here getting money for 20 plus.

Yeah, then I saw him putting up the celebrity net worth and I'm worth $4 million and Duval's worth 1.5. Like, this celebrity net worth, what the fuck is that? Right. I mean, it's not even true, the celebrity net worth. They said I was worth crazy shit before I was worth anything. What did they say you were worth? They were saying I was worth $3 million like four years ago. I was bro.

Wow. Yeah. They said I'm worth $10. How accurate are we? Yeah. And you can't spend a mill on her? Me. More of an indictment of her.

It is my bank account. What was the feedback to the meek thing? I know we got to get out of here, but what was it? People from the meek interview, man. From what I see. I mean, I just like having those conversations. I loved it. You know what I mean?

I just like sitting down talking to those brothers who. especially somebody like me who I've watched from the beginning. Like I was doing radio in Philly when Meek was on house arrest before he had to deal with Rick Ross and anybody. So it's just like, you know, to see people like that grow and evolve and just... Say that one part. Remember the part where they tried to shut him up? And then he was like, nah, people need to know about this. Oh, yeah, he was just talking about being on...

He said he was taking 10 Perkinsets a day. Ten Perkinsets... But the reason somebody like Meek has to tell his story is because Juice World is not here to tell his. Right. Mac Miller's not here to tell his. You know what I'm saying? So God bless those brothers. God bless the dead.

But yo, man, it's people out there that learned from other people's mistakes and learned from their own mistakes. They realize, like, man, I'm a walking dead man. If I don't stop this shit. Like he said, you can't be a fucking billionaire. You can't be a billionaire. Well, I just said that.

You can be a billionaire or a motherfucking billionaire. Are a millionaire. You can't be a billionaire. There's a lot of motherfucking billionaires out here. They want to take more pills than they do make money. And Meek made a conscious decision to say, I'm going to get this motherfucker bread. And you can't, you can't do both. We've been telling you all that shit for years.

You can't do both. Bro, that pill shit is affecting. It's not just rappers, bro. And it's not just like these like, poor like oxy-kye and whites. Like, it's rich folks that shit is fucking up with too. I was down in Salt Lake City. And you know how Mormons can't have coffee. They can't have alcohol. They can't have any of these things. But there's nothing on prescription drugs. Really? So you got a lot of fucking devout Mormon pillheads. It's like a big problem. I feel sorry for all those kids. Like when I see like, you know, Trippy Red,

I don't know Trippy Red, but slew to Trippy Red, when I see him say things like, he's not doing no more. I respect that decision. Yeah. But I don't think he understands the tough role that he's about to have.

You just don't quit that shit cold turkey. Yeah. You got to go to rehab. You got to go get treatment. Like, you're going to have withdrawals. Like, that shit is really going to affect you in a real way. So I really do hope that those brothers get the help that they need, but it's not going to be easy.

I don't know why they fuck it with pills, though? What they're trying to? I'll be wondering what they're trying to escape. And see, that's why I said you've got to get to the root of shit. That's why I'm so big on dealing with mental health and mental health issues because a lot of these kids have anxiety already. They have depression already. And so when they get on this fuck, when they start self-medicating and they get that escape

they've been looking for, they don't get off them shit. I think that, I think when it comes to, like, people who have success and why they want it is because there's a lot of, like, pressure with success, not to only succeed, but to, like, to not only to succeed and keep it up, but to, to like, who exist as that famous person in every interaction you have. Bro, you got to listen to Andre 3000 on Rick Rubman show. I got, I got to check that.

You got. Does he talk about this? Yes, man. Because I've noticed that with, with, and weed or like alcohol, what they do is they create this little buffer between you and the world and the people you're interacting with. And you, and you don't have to like make every moment special for every person you talk to.

You can kind of just exist in your world with it. And I think that famous people crave that because on some level, it can be exhausting trying to live up to the standard that all these other people have for you. I'll tell you what my therapist told me, you just got to feel your feels, right? Yeah. And whatever you're feeling in that moment, lean into it. Interesting. Like, I don't have to be everything to everybody.

Yeah. I don't feel like fucking talking. I'm not talking. Initially, when you got famous, didn't you feel a pressure? Before fame, when you was in school. Oh, right. You know what I'm saying? But was it not heightened?

You got to be the life with a party. Right, but was it not heightened when you become this celebrity? Like, remember when Guyco really popped off? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was an expectation. Yeah, I mean, I think it's impossible to not become a character of yourself at some point. I think the first go around with fame, you become this character. Well, I don't think the first, the first hit of it.

The first hit of it is like, oh, shit. They fuck with me? And I... Why are they fucking with me? They fuck with me, but X, Y, and... the reasons. I need to do that. So I need to do this more. So then that next level is more characterature. Then you realize this shit is exhausting. I'm trying to keep this shit to fuck up a few years. I'm faking it. I'm faking me. It's like when you hear Jerry Seinfeld do

his own voice and you're like, you don't talk like that. What's the deal with salad? It's like my man, you're 70 years old, talk regular. But isn't it harder for you though? What's that? As a comedian, like you don't have to be funny. You have to be interesting. Right. in every situation. You actually got to be... No, Chris, hold on. Before you pivot, before you pivot, this is good.

He's absolutely right. I don't have to be funny, but motherfuckers always want to talk to me because I'm always talking. They always want to have conversations. They always want a hot debate. They want the hot take. That's what I mean.

You got to just say something. And then he said... And then he shouldn't ask you the dumbest shit. What do you think of Takashi 6-9? Like, bro, I'm that fucking... You got a looking to be like, I'll tell you how he tastes. I'm at a fucking steakhouse with my family, okay.

What the fuck are you talking about? Like, you don't give a fuck. Daughters are right there. Like, I don't give a shit. There is something that's interesting, though, because you're saying that when you're a comic, there is one expectation for the interaction. And that is laughter. Right. Right.

And with the guy coach shit when it first came around, I wasn't prepared for it. So I felt like I had to be funny in every moment that I had with these people. Right. And then that fame disappeared. And I got this. It was the best thing that could have happened because I got an experience. with it, I saw it go away, and then I saw how much I valued just not having an expectation and interaction.

Yes. And now when it came back up through the YouTube videos and obviously success in a podcast and everything, I don't feel the pressure to satisfy everything because I'm not proving to myself that I'm worth it anymore. Back with God code, it was I probably didn't feel like I deserved the fame. That's imposter syndrome. Yes, I probably had imposter. My therapist talking about it.

So now it's like, if you know me from stand-up clips, most people are you. to see me on the street. They, in the podcast or stand-up clips. You know I'm funny. You watch the clip. Right. I don't got to prove to you

I'm funny. Right. Hey, nice to meet you. That's it. Whereas with Guy Coat it was like, we were on TV for 30 seconds a day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You don't know if it was funny. Right. You don't know if it wasn't. It's so that, that was a real thing for me. It was like just getting comfortable in what I am and who I am. And there's nothing that does that better

than having a fan base that fucks with you instead of a network that fucks at you. Right. Because the fan base, the network can just pull the rug out whenever they want. Right.

The fan base is like, nah, we got you, where are we going? Right. We go on HBO? We go on Netflix. Right. We're going to, where are we going? Right.

You know? And I want to give both of you guys props for this because I've noticed both of you guys in terms of your actual one-on-one interactions instead of just a movement, like on the street, you guys always have time for people. And I know some celebrities who don't. Right.

You know what I mean? Like, I've seen you guys around enough people. I've never seen either one of you guys like. Never. Nah, I would never front of nobody with you. A lot of people do. A lot of people do. But listen, shit might change next shit.

Get it in now. If you see Charlotte, get it in now. You know, I mean, everybody's growing in their respective field. You know what I mean? Shit is a little different out there. It's getting a little different. You know what I mean? I just know things are getting a little different.

I've been in spaces where I have seen people have to whisk me through. Right. And I can't stop and talk to everybody. Yes. So I got to get to the stage. Right. I got to get out here for this flight because if I do stop, it's over. It's going to be a while.

So I understand. I understand why some people do that. Some people are just assholes. Some people really got some place to motherfucking go. Next year, I got a lot of places to go. 2021. I got a lot of places to go 2022, 2023. Some shit is really about to change around this motherfucker.

I'm excited. In a real way, bro. Yeah. Like a real fucking way. You know the one thing that won't change? Chris is going to have lines. He's definitely going to have lines. And I'm still not going to be able to pronounce it.

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