The Brilliant Idiots - Idiot Couture

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

In this episode of Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz are diving headfirst into the wild world of pop culture, starting with the Met Gala — the ultimate mix of fashion, fame, an...d WTF moments. From iconic looks to celebrity cringe, we break down what this event really says about society (hint: a lot). We give props to style legends like André 3000 and talk timeless queens like Lauryn Hill. We get into the magic of live theater, from the next-level production behind Stranger Things: The Play to what Broadway’s evolution says about the future of entertainment. Expect hot takes on storytelling, innovation, and why Broadway still hits different. We also unpack the chaos of modern media — clickbait culture, shady headlines, and the pressure to stay “authentic” in a world that rewards shock value. From political spin to celebrity drama, we explore how media shapes the way we think, talk, and argue. Oh, and legal drama? We’ve got that too. From wild lawsuits in the sports world to Tom Brady’s mentorship moments and the outdated nonsense behind “alienation of affection” laws, we cover it all. Plus: why getting your mom a gift is harder than it should be and what a Brilliant Idiots movie could actually look like. It’s a ride — fashion, fame, theater, law, media, and a bit of heart. Let’s go. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Pre Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB The Wind on Her Tongue - Anita Kopacz https://a.co/d/fWDancH I Lived to Tell the Story: A Memoir of Love, Legacy, and Resilience - Tamika D. Mallory https://a.co/d/7DoCtWX Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yep, Shalameen the guy. Andrew Shull. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Do we have any ads, Taylor? No prees? Okay, Heather Carl Walker. What's up, my boy?
Starting point is 00:00:10 What's the word, my guy? Man, how you doing, bro? How was your weekend? How was your week? The week was good. You know, I have a new perspective on the Met Gallo. Ooh, talk to me. I think that, like, the Met Gala serves everyone the exact thing that they wants.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Attention? Well, the regular people like us that are not invited get to ridicule and humiliated and laugh at the celebrities in these goofy outfits. Okay. So we feel good about ourselves. And then the celebrities that have this like undying need and thirst for approval and validation, they get that. So it's like, I used to just kind of shit on this thing, but it kind of perfectly satisfies what everybody needs. So that's a person out there. Well.
Starting point is 00:01:01 The ones that don't give a fuck. Which is. I could care less about what the fuck you're doing. But no, no, no. I will say this. No, no. Okay. Yes, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:01:10 But I do enjoy watching the jokes. Yes. Yes. Like, I enjoyed watching Duval Clown. Like, I enjoyed it. And then when I did see some of the pictures, yeah, you enjoy looking at certain things and make certain observations. Because, you know, the thing for me is like, people look fly and shit I would never wear.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Yeah. Because I'm like, first of all, I honestly don't know what the Meggall is even for. Like, I know, I saw the day that they raised $31 million. For whatever reason, maybe I just haven't paid attention enough, that's the first time I've ever heard of that. A lot of these events, these like fancy jet setter, like fashion or just wealthy people events, what they do is they donate to charity so that they don't look too self-indulgent celebrating themselves. Oh, I get it. There's a lot of these events that exist around the world.
Starting point is 00:01:56 It's just rich people coming together to basically. basically tap themselves on the back and see what good people they are. And in order to get away with that, you've got to give people who need money, money. Otherwise, we'll just show up at your door with, like, pitch force. So where does the money go to? Some fucking charities, probably. I don't know. The illest thing I saw at the Met Gallo was Andre 3,000 with that piano on his back.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Son, I didn't, why was that ill? I'll tell you why it was ill. Because Andre 3,000, to me, this is my personal opinion. He can make something like that look effortless. The fact that you can walk in a room with a piano on your back, like it's perfectly normal. And a garbage bag? In a garbage bag. Like, it's perfectly normal.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And it don't look like you're even trying too hard. Because you're so peculiar and your style's been so unique over the years. Yo, Andre was Andre was Andre in being unique way before there was a thing called being unique. And Andre genuinely, we know for a fact he's not doing this for attention. This is artistic expression. Nah. You know why I say he's not doing it for attention? Because Andre doesn't want attention.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Andre goes away. Andre doesn't do anything. I think anybody that goes to this event wants attention. Well, he put out of... Well, he put out an album. Sure, sure. So then you want attention for the album. But, like, you do want attention.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And that's okay. We want attention. Everybody, that's okay. I don't know if Andreu's U.S. I think... He might be the only celebrity that I can genuinely... Yeah, that I can genuinely say I don't think wants attention.
Starting point is 00:03:26 There's a lot of people that say, to this because they don't want the attention. Yeah. And he decided to say yes. But I'm not being critical of him before that. It's okay. Like, he's a fashion guy and this is a fashion event. Is he a fashion guy's been wearing the same outfit for 20 years?
Starting point is 00:03:39 He'd been wearing overalls. He'd been overweight overalls and playing a food for 20 years. I think he's been very progressive with his fashion choices. Like he was doing shit that everybody was like, yo, this guy dresses weird, but there's some bravery to that. He's been dressing like a farmer for 20 years. Like, honestly, the fact that. that Andre went to this event, I want to know why.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I know why everybody else went. Like, we know for the most part why everybody else went. They like the attention. I want to know why Andre was it. Why do you think? I don't know. I mean, I know he put out an album,
Starting point is 00:04:09 but that hasn't made him go to events before just because he put out the album. Yeah. He didn't go to the Met Gala when he put out the flute album. Maybe he wasn't invited. I think Andre's probably always on the list. Andre 3K?
Starting point is 00:04:22 I think there's a lot of people that don't get invited and then they cope with it in weird ways. Like, I've seen some people online coping with their lack of an invite, pretending as if it was their choice. No, you know what I like? I like the people who, I like the people who get dressed up on MetGala night
Starting point is 00:04:39 in post pictures. As if they were invited. Not, yes. Diabolical. Diabolical. There was a few of those I laughed at. I'm like, yo, you went out with your friends and you probably got a just a MetGala after parties.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Exactly. You ain't in no fucking Meggagana. Where's your instrument on your back? Well, that shit looks dope. I ain't going to front. It looked dope because it's just effortless. Like, he don't even look like he's trying. And he got a trash bag.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I wanted to know what all of this meant. I realized what the piano meant because he put out an album. And on the album, he's wearing the same thing. On the album is him with the piano on his back. But what did the trash bag mean? And they just got nominated. They just got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And I was literally on air last week saying,
Starting point is 00:05:22 what's the over-under on him even showing up to that? I don't get that. the piano shit. That shit looks music. Well, it's a piano album. Yeah, there's other instruments you could do that aren't that ridiculous. But he's playing the piano on the new album. Did you know how the last album was just flute? Yeah. This one is just piano. Wow, he can play all these instruments? Yeah, man. At the 2020-2005 MacGala Andre 2000 War, piano on his back, as part of a fashion statement tied to his new album, seven piano sketches, the outfit of collaboration between Burberry and his brand. I didn't know that. That's cool. Maybe that was it.
Starting point is 00:05:52 He wanted to promote his brand a little bit too. Oh, Benji Bigs, Bexby. He featured a jumpsuit in a hat paying homage to his 2008 fashion line Benjamin Bixby. So he's paying homage to it or is he relaunching it? There was a couple of people who did that. Aesap Rocky did that. He had his own line on. You know it's so funny, there's a lot of people who wear their own stuff and you just don't realize it. Like, you know Gilly with those hats.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Those are his. He owns, he has equity in the company. Oh, that's great. I mean, he should. He put that shit on a map to me. Exactly. We was talking about it, me and him, Morrow was on the phone another day. And he told me that.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And I was like, I will say, if you wear that hat to any sport. event, you're an asshole. Yes. Like, those should be illegal at sporting events. You would wear one. Until the person behind me was like, yo, I spent $5,000 on playoff tickets and you got this goofy ass fucking moon landing hat on. No, that should be illegal.
Starting point is 00:06:40 But if it's a good way to promote your shit, though. No, I agree. It's awesome. Shout out Gilly for it. But still, the people behind you. My boy wore it to a Knicks game once. And I was like, you actually wore it. He's like, I asked the people behind me if it was okay.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It's like, you know it's not okay. I said, I said, oh, when he told me that I go, oh, Oh, that makes so much sense. Gilly said, you thought I was just some nut-ass nigger walking around in this big dumb-ass hat. I know. I know that what you thought.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Salute to Gilly and Wally. Who's that? Who was that? Oh, dapper d'on? Dapper d'an. You know, I don't know. I guess, man, salute to the Meggala. They look happy.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I don't, I mean, I don't know. Like, this shit don't move me in no way, shape, or form. Like, I don't know. What about, I don't know, bear. Yeah, I don't care either, but it's fun to make fun of the famous people that take themselves seriously in ridiculous fashion. This is, I will say, though, this is, this is fame. That is fame. Like, you know, the lines of what really being famous is are blurred nowadays.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Most of the people at that show are actually legitimately famous. Like, in the old school traditional way of being. famous. In the old school traditional way, I would say, yeah. Like, who's air is not famous? I feel like they all have heat because some people get invited and then their heat starts to die and they... Give me, give me an idea. Give me an idea. Give me an idea. Give me an idea. Give me an example. Fuck, I can't think of somebody who, like, Miguel. Like, everybody who just today posted is a real legitimate stop. Miguel? Remember when he like, I think he fell or some shit like that? Miguel is a legitimate start. I know, but I'm just saying right now he doesn't have heat and he wasn't
Starting point is 00:08:23 there this year. Yeah. Okay. That's up. I get it. I get what you saying. I don't know. I get what you saying. I think Miguel could have been there if he wanted to. I mean, some people are timeless. Lauren Hill, look.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Boom. She's there. Some people are timeless. Lauren Hill timeless. Lauren Hill, like, I wouldn't necessarily call Lauren Hill hot. She's not hot? I saw Lauren Hill perform down in Miami this weekend. For real? What time did you get there?
Starting point is 00:08:48 What time did she get there? She was on time. Really? Yeah. She was on time. Performed all her songs. Her son came. on stage, he performed a couple songs, he killed it.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah, talk shit now. Stuff came on. They did some Fuji songs. Talk shit now. She's timeless. She's timeless. She's timeless. Lauren Hill is a perfect example of if you create something that is so good,
Starting point is 00:09:06 you can literally eat off that thing forever. Life. And your level of success is really determined on what you want to do. What day was the Meggala? The Meggala was on a Monday. Monday, right? Because it's like, she performed on Sunday. Sunday.
Starting point is 00:09:19 She was straight down there. Yeah. I was shocked that she was at the Met Gala. I'm not going to lie. I just don't, I, maybe she would participate in that. Yeah, I just never, maybe she has been there before and I just never paid attention. Okay, see, I don't know who these people are. Like, who are these people?
Starting point is 00:09:31 I think there's a lot of, like, industry people that are influential within fashion that you just are, I'm familiar with and, you know, so am I. Wow. Wow, is that Hallie? Wow. She's just one of the most beautiful people that's ever been created in history. Why are certain people were there and you didn't know about it? Like, Hallie Berry, Kamala Harris. Like, why, like, hold on, why? Let's just not jump off of this.
Starting point is 00:09:52 she is one of the most beautiful human being that's ever been created in history. Holly Barry. I mean, wow. Holly Barry looks like an award show at you. She probably, she does. She does. How old is she, what is she, 50 years old now?
Starting point is 00:10:05 No, way older than that. She's older than 50. Easily. Holy fucking. Easily, easily older than 50. Because the thing about, Hollyberry would not be four years older than me. I was thinking about that shit the other day.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I'm like, damn. Hollyberry is 58. You know what I was thinking about the other day? I was like, yo, I was only eight years older than Bow Wow all this time. You know what I'm saying? Bow Wow's 38. I was only eight years older than Bow Wow. You know what I've been a kid the whole life?
Starting point is 00:10:40 You know how like Morgan Freeman been old forever? Yeah. That's why I've been a 12 year old for the same amount of time Morgan Freeman been 80. And I was watching the club Shay-Shay interview and I don't know what made me just. Google Bow Wow. Something just made me Google Bow Wow's age. He's 38 years old. He's a grown-ass man. I'm like, y'all was only eight years older than Bow Wow? You got to move this off, Hallie Berry. With all the respect, you got to move it up. Not respectfully, respectfully, respectfully, just like stunningly beautiful.
Starting point is 00:11:07 She's amazing. Angel Reese looked good, very good here. Like, this is good. But once again... You just can't follow Hallie, man. It's hard right now. But Holly is timeless. Keep going. You tell you, Holly is it? Holly is it? Holly is 58 years old. So it's literally like tasting the greatest aged wine you've ever had, the greatest aged cogniz.
Starting point is 00:11:28 There's some things you just can't motherfucking deal with. Who is that? Essie Cup? Who is that? My uncle millet. Yeah, I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yo, shout out to the, I don't know, man. I don't give a fuck. You show him you all these people and I don't even mean it in a disrespectful way. No, it's fun to not give a fuck also, oh my God, I got to say something.
Starting point is 00:11:53 This girl right here, and it was Nicole Scherzinger. She was the lead singer for the Pussy Cat Dolls. We know who, Nicole. We got to say birthday. Really? June 29. Okay, so she is currently... She is currently the star of this play called Sunset Boulevard on Broadway that my wife took me to.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Okay? Plays is really interesting. They do some cool stuff with, like, video where there's like a camera on stage and they're projecting the video onto a screen on stage. They leave the theater. Rain, I'm not setting you up for anything like that. They leave the theater. rain sleigh or snow and they do a thing where the video camera follows them
Starting point is 00:12:24 it's a project them and then they come back like they use a lot of cool things with shadows story whatever doesn't matter this woman might be the most talented human being i've ever said like you know how you look at jamie foxner like oh you're the most talented human being yeah she can act she's funny and her voice is fucking unbelievable oh so you're saying broadway is that vehicle that bought that out i like i like Being the lead singer of this group, the Pussy Get Dolls, which I always thought was like a kind of like childish girl band. Like, don't you, though.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Don't you. Don't you. Don't you go to the hot like me. So far beneath her talent level. Not to say it wasn't a huge successful. Literally, I'm watching it. I'm like, is this the most talented woman on planet Earth? Like, unfucking believable.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Really? I'm telling you the talent is. Got to go see that play. What's the name of it? Hell on Earth? Sunset Boulevard. Sunset Boulevard. Sunset Boulevard.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Anyway, it's, and like, I'm curious what you think. Like, to me, there was like some, I guess, issues with plot or whatever like that. But just her raw talent, like the story is about kind of like an actress who was really popular and then kind of fell off. But in her world, she was kind of protected to think she didn't really fall off. Oh, my God. And then her come into grips of that, which almost kind of mirrors her life in a way. Like Pussy Cab was really popular. Then she didn't really do that much afterwards.
Starting point is 00:13:45 She had a solo album. She had a solo album. She did some other stuff. But, like, you watch this shit and you go, oh, my God. You are one of the most talented human beings ever lived. It's like unbelievable. You know, it's funny you say that because I think I saw, no, I don't think. I know I saw the greatest Broadway stage production.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Stranger Things, like when you said, this is your influence. You said, I would have never gone see stranger things on fucking Broadway. You saw it? No, you tweeted it and I said to my wife and I was like, I think we should go check this shit out. Oh, so it is the greatest Broadway stage production I've ever seen. What is so? amazing about Stranger Things.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Were you like a fan of the show or something? No. My wife is and my daughter is. Okay. Salute to... You understood it even though you didn't watch the show? Yes. Salute to Nicole, Nicole, Avon.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Nicole hit me up and told me, she asked me if I wanted to go see it. We just randomly talking to she asked me want to go see it. And I'm like... And my wife heard her. So my wife was like, hell yes! I'm like, okay, I guess we're going to see Stranger Things. So we went and I don't know shit about Stranger Things.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I'm just telling you from a stage production, they did things on the stage I didn't know what's possible. Like it's literally like watching a live action movie. I'm talking about people falling out of the sky in slow motion. And I'm like, yo, what the fuck
Starting point is 00:15:04 you? How the fuck did that happen? Like monsters coming from the steel? Go see it and tell me I'm lying. So you're saying strictly from a production standpoint what they were able to execute on stage was like something you've never seen. I mean, the storyline was great too. But what they executed
Starting point is 00:15:19 on stage was shit I've never seen. I didn't think it was possible to do the things they did on stage. Do you remember when the Lion King came out on Broadway? Would you believe I have not seen the Lion King on Broadway? What? So do you remember? You seen it on Broadway? Okay. And again, I don't know that much about Broadway. So if you're a Broadway expert, I'm going to say, you're going to be like,
Starting point is 00:15:37 oh, this doesn't happen before, whatever. The Lion King on Broadway, you've seen it. Did this thing that I didn't know that Broadway plays did. They, one, the characters, like, walked in the audience. They walk through you. It's a lot of that in Scrange the thing. Fair enough. And then the other thing they did, which is really interesting, is the choreography for the animals and the outfits matched how those animals move in the wild. So, like, they really look.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Do you remember, like, the antelopes and shit kind of really looked like anelopes dancing? So I'm just watching this thing. I was like, oh, this is way more creative than simply, like, writing a storyline. Yes. You are finding ways to, like, implement artistry with human beings dressed up in these costumes. So I have a lot of respect. for those people that are like hacking those problems. Like you can't obviously put a fucking antelope on stage in a Broadway play.
Starting point is 00:16:27 You can't obviously have someone fall from the ceiling slow motion. How do you solve those problems? I think that's so cool. Christmas story did that though. What you mean? When I went to go see a Christmas story on Broadway, the scene where the dogs knocked the turkey off to the table, they literally had dogs. Come out.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Come out. They run the truck. Yeah. I was like, oh shit. I didn't really had it on Broadway. But the Christmas story? Yeah. I don't think it.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I don't know how long it was. lasted, but it's probably like from November to whatever. Yeah, strange of things, though. I'm telling you, I was sitting there like, blown away. You had an editable? I was about to ask. I was about to ask a statement. No, I wanted to, though.
Starting point is 00:16:59 But I literally forgot I was watching a play. That's how much they were doing shit on stage that's like, yo, what the fuck is, how are they doing this with no motherfucking graphics, bro? Like, how are they doing this with no stunt doubles? Like, what the fuck is happening? I'm talking about, like, when the girl falls in slow, and then she falls in slow motion and you're looking like, how the fuck are they doing this? Then she hits the ground and bounces?
Starting point is 00:17:26 I'm like, yo, what the fuck? You got to see it. All right. You got to see Scraged thing. And it's a prequel. I got lucky and I was able to see Spider-Man before they canceled it. Oh, that shit was cool. That shit was cool.
Starting point is 00:17:38 That shit was cool. Like, actually fell and died, I think. Oh, my God. They had to cancel it. It's funny, like, we're such children. We just like the cool, like, technical shit. Yeah. You know, we just want to see people fly.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah, don't take on trust our takes, by the- No, I'm telling you. By the way, when I posted that about strange things, everybody who saw it was like, hell, was in the comments like, yes. Hell, fucking, yeah. Like, it's, I've never seen anything like it. That is how you get this next generation
Starting point is 00:18:04 of people to go to Broadway. Yes. Like, they did it with Harry Potter, too. Harry Potter was fantastic. I've seen that twice. And you didn't even need to know anything about Harry Potter. Nothing. I saw it when that shit was six hours.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I saw two days. It was long as fuck, bro. That's not. You have to go two days? No, why? It was like a Saturday, Sunday thing. Or maybe it was just like a... It was a six-hour thing.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah, yeah. It was a six-hour play. And then you leave and then you come back. They reduced it to three now. I took my action. It's a funny thing because I went... Thank God. I saw the three.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Because that shit fell long. I went to see strange things last week and I took my nine-year-old to see Harry Potter literally the week before. Oh, wow. So it's three hours now. But Harry Potter slap.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And you get a little emotional in it. It's cool. But that's one of the great thing about Broadway. If a show makes it too Broadway, you know it's good. Oh, because it's been vetted so many different times on the way up. That's a great point, go.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Sorry, is it Harry Potter one from just the first movie? No. It's a story you've never seen. It's a story you've never seen. Yep. So, but it operates in the same world. But that's a good point. Like a lot of these plays,
Starting point is 00:19:02 like Hamilton started at the public theater. So they're working out all the kinks before they even get to Broadway. So by the time it's a broad... That's a great point. It's not like releasing an album and hoping the songs are good. They worked out the songs.
Starting point is 00:19:16 It's working out a joke. It's working out a joke. They worked that shit out for months. Get it nice. And then that's a good-ass point. That's why you could trust Broadway. Scraining things is like the, you said Harry Potter is about the kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Scrains the things is about the parents. So before. It's the parents when they were kids. Yeah, it's the parents when they were kids. Yeah. It's funny. It's like Broadway is doing what like Marvel and Disney have tried to do, which is like create the world.
Starting point is 00:19:46 you know, like create intellectual property around existing world. But I feel like they're doing it better. I love Broadway. I'm a Broadway fanatic. But I'm a Broadway fanatic because I like degree of difficulty. Because you don't have, there's, you can't do a take two on your stage. Bro, there's no green screens. None.
Starting point is 00:20:04 There's no, you got to get every word right. Everything. If this dude fucks up a line, it's going to fuck up your line to them. Yeah. And if they do fuck up, you would never know because they got to keep shit going. That's why I thought. What was that show that came out called Adolescence, I think, where they just did one take? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:21 At first, I was like, how the fuck could they film this one take? What if someone makes a mistake? And then I realized, oh, on Broadway, seven days a week, they do one take. Flawless shit. Flawless shit. Flawless motherfuckeruck. Why are we still looking at this Meggallet shit? I mean, that's not bad to look at it.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Who is it? You know who that is. Oh, that's the young lady from Euphoria? Yeah. Stop, stop. Did y'all know her? Is that her? That's how I met her.
Starting point is 00:20:47 That's not the young lady from Euphoria? Yes, it is. She knew you better. Like, I didn't know anything about her until Euphoria. Oh, you found out about her on that. You didn't meet her in person. What's her character on Euphoria is me? It's called Milk.
Starting point is 00:20:59 It's not her name, man. Her name is Milk. Her name is Milk. Her name is Milk. I forgot. First name, God. Grow up, okay? We're not mature enough to have this conversation.
Starting point is 00:21:14 What's even a conversation? I don't know. I thought that was Joe Budding that. So did I. What the fuck is that? So what the fuck is. It's your other bestie, though. Who is that?
Starting point is 00:21:27 Lekeith, your guy. Oh, shit. I didn't know who that was. Oh, okay. God damn it. All right. All right. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Can we move on? What else we got? What else we got? What else we got, what else we got, Taylor gang? Shout out to everybody who had a good time at the Met Gala. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Well, speaking of the Meggala. Oh, what was this? I saw you post this. That's motherfucking Lose. Lose is Jess O'Laris' cameraman. And he's from Baltimore. And he is, I don't want to say anything because I don't want him to clip any of this
Starting point is 00:21:58 and put it on his Instagram. He is absolutely positively, one of the most unintentionally funny people I have ever met in my life. He is not a human. Like, you know how people say things like, yo, he's not human, man. He's from Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:22:14 He is a, No, he's Darius from the leg. No, no, no, no. He's like, yes. No, I never met anybody like this dude. Click this shit, let me watch this video. Also, real quick, look below what we got on the bottom right there. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Hey, go on. This is on his page. Go. Loz, Carlos. Nice to meet you, John. Yeah, nice to meet you. I'm tired. Tides or not.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Time to that. The first time, I said it wrong. Then I said like bottom. You did good. You did good. The first time I see you as when you shut down the city. That was the first time. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:45 That was a bad day. That was a bad day. Yeah. Salomey's my cousin. Jocelari's my sister. Shololameen to God? Yeah. Nick Cannon is my cousin too.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah. Like breakfast up? Yeah. Okay. All right. You got motion, my boy. Yeah. That was Lowe's talking to guys tonight.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I want everybody watching this to know he is not my cousin. Okay. And if he did anything to offend you on this night, I don't even know him. Is he after Matt Gala? Is he out of after party? He's out of after party. Got it. Loz?
Starting point is 00:23:14 Let me tell you something about Lose. I don't know, Lose record you, right? So if you're talking to him, he's recording. Just know he's recording, right? So he got the turtleneck on with the Pinscrite pants. He has a conversation with a group of guys. One guy in particular had to be trying to holler at him. And he must have been so mad.
Starting point is 00:23:33 He got so mad that he realized Lose was recorded. They were having a conversation. And Lose was just like, I'm looking to have a good time tonight. And the guy was like, how good of a time. Oh, I mean, 1990s, early 2000s gay New York shit. Like how good at what time. Why are you putting that on us? No, no, no, that's New York.
Starting point is 00:23:54 The gay New York industry is different because it's tough. Ooh. Especially when it's black. Shout out to Marco. You know what I'm saying? Yo, shout out to Marco. I'm not falling for that. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:24:05 It's not. That's not falling for that. You didn't see the clip. We played it on the pot. It's like a little white, twinkie, gay dude is talking to this big black dude. And he's asking him if he's gay. He goes, bisexual, I'm a dominant top. That's right.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Oil up your ankles, let your tims tap, man. Bang. That's how that's that tough shit. Daddy DeMarco. Shout out, Daddy DeMarco. I told those, man, after the night you had, check your butthole. Yo.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Because you may not be a virgin anymore. You just got to check because there was shit he didn't remember. Wait, what? What you mean? He was drunk his shit. I'm just telling you. He was drunk of shit.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And he was like, yeah, you know, I ended up in a ride. share with some guy who said he owned Louis Vuitton. I'm like, bro. You're not going to be a ride share with the guy who owns Louis. No, you're going to be the ride share. If you ended up in a car, listen, if you ended up in a car with a bunch of guys and one of the guys tells you that he owns Louis Vuitton with y'all in the ride share,
Starting point is 00:25:02 oh, they shared that ride. Yeah, they did. They shared that ride. And he was like... You're going to let your cousin get trained up? That's not my fucking cousin. Your cousin got trained up in New York, man. You got trained up in New York, you'll never live that down.
Starting point is 00:25:15 No, you want. If you're a man and you get a train ran on you and then your boys find out, you are choo-choo for the rest of your life. Rest of your life. Here come choo-choo, y'all. You know what I'm saying? You change your numbers, change his name and your phone. Oh, Greyhound calling me.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Hold on a minute. You know what I'm not. No, no, Greyhound is the bus, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It don't matter. It's still a bunch of men riding it. We got it. It's still a bunch of men riding it.
Starting point is 00:25:39 That's funny. What else we got? Oh, look at this guy. Hold on, hold on. Fast forward. Fast forward. I can't fast forward on your screen. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I just want you to see his picture, man. This is go. No, he did. He did. He lied his way into Wendy Williams. Carla. That's on you, bro. You look like a damn-am track.
Starting point is 00:26:01 He was like, Wendy's a fan. It's a hot guy down studio. Yeah, imagine how hot Chris is. He doesn't have his fan. She did say something like that. I was at the radio station. I worked at inside in line of Hot 109, which we are all in there. You know, shout out Chris, though, man.
Starting point is 00:26:15 By the way, why are we able to call those fans, Oriental fans? But you can't call the rugs or Oriental rugs. You can call them. But I thought that's a slur or something. No, I think you could call an Oriental rug. I think it's from the Orient. It's Oriental. I don't think something with the word Oriental.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I thought you can't even say Oriental. That's what I thought, too. No, you can say, I don't think it's a hateful word. I think we went through a period where, like, we tried to make everything hateful. And, uh... There's actual people from the Orient. From the Orient. And the rug comes from the Orient.
Starting point is 00:26:45 So it's an Oriental rug. But isn't that, what's that? Was that a Chinese fan or what do you call it? That right there? Yes. I don't know. But a lot of cultures had, though. Like Spain, they have those a lot.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah. Mexico they got there. I just want y'all to see Lose in this guy. He wants to come on brilliant. He is so. Yo, shout out Lose. Lose is fucking crazy, man. Like, he's always in the turtleneck?
Starting point is 00:27:11 No, he wore it out for the Mexican. That was his MetGal again. I love it. Yeah. What else we got to? What is that wig? Like, why? He was trying to troll, Lauren.
Starting point is 00:27:21 No, the one you be having. Yeah, Lauren, the wig person bought that. Oh. For me. Okay, look, look at this. Look how he looks. Watch how perfectly this wig fits loathe. Look.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I'm like, this was your Met Gala look. I mean, that kind of works. It works. That kind of works. Low key, that works. And that's what I was telling them. I say the reason they let you in all the MetGala parties because you looked like some type of artist.
Starting point is 00:27:51 When Kai was talking to him, Kai dead assy thought that he was like some sort of fashionese. A hundred percent. He got this slim. He looks like the model. Just say he's handsome. Say you think he looks good. You want to bend him over and crack his back.
Starting point is 00:28:04 But he, okay. Just say it. To that point, there is a sweetness about him. Yeah, they say, you know what it's like. You like that sweetness. It's like the artsy. You see what I mean? What is RC?
Starting point is 00:28:15 The artsy. Oh, artsy. Like, R.C. Like, you know. He looks back you out already. No, I'm going to let you know right now. What goes on at the break? I'm going to catch you this episode.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I'm going to let you know right now at the beginning of it and there's nothing you could do about it. I'm just letting you know right now. I'm catching you this episode and there's nothing you can do about it because you're too curious. You're too curious you're going to want to know and then boom, dick is in the mouth. It's not going to happen. You're going to be so curious to know.
Starting point is 00:28:44 a sudden dick is in your mouth. That's what happened is the after parties for the megallas. You know what they call them, right? What do they call them? You know what I mean? Because it's a bunch of men sweating on each other. Why does nobody ever talk about that? Talk about the somersexuality of the meggall?
Starting point is 00:28:58 It's a lot of it. And it's fine. It's fashion, of course. 90% of them are gay. Really? Yeah. I mean, yeah. So why they don't make pants that give you easy access to what you want, guys?
Starting point is 00:29:10 I think they do. I think gay guys wear pants backwards. So the zipper's there for their butt. Yo, the zipper on the butt is crazy. Chris Crawlson will make you a jump, jump, pump, pump, pump, that is crazy. The zipper on the back is insanity. What else we got? Shout out to Swiss and Alicia.
Starting point is 00:29:40 That was interesting. I like Switzerland and Alicia too because. They both were paying homage to Stevie Wonder. Oh. Yeah, they both were paying homage to Stevie Wonder. Because look, scrolling, zoom in on the picture. Alicia got the Stevie Wonder braids.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Oh, okay. Swiss got the Stevie Wonder shades, giving blindness. And he's holding onto her arm. So he knows where to go. So he knows where to go. Yes. That is dope.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Y'all ain't even catch that. Y'all, see, everybody got all of these, you know, Easter eggs and, oh, the deeper meaning of things. Y'all ain't even catch that Alicia and Swiss' people. And Hamas to Stevie Wonder, man. For someone, don't give a fuck. It seems like you know a lot about it. I saw that picture.
Starting point is 00:30:18 All right, fair enough. That picture, I saw that picture because I was like, why is nobody seeing what I'm seeing? That's not Stevie Wonder? She looks like the, not Pocahontas. What is the Egyptian guys? And the durag. Cleopatra.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Cleopatra. So what's got on the du rag and the Stevie Wonder blind glasses? Eddie holding on the Alicia's arm like she's the guy, and she got the Stevie Wonder braids. Boom. Killing it. It's just Halloween in the springtime. That's all it is.
Starting point is 00:30:43 It's Halloween for Hollywood. That's all the fucking movies. That's all it is. That's why this shit is fun as fuck. Yeah. No, I know Al, you would love this. No. Oh, hell.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Yeah, all of them zippers in the back, you'd be walking around. Would you wear a zipper in the back? No. I'd have a piano. What if I forgot? I need a piano to just protect my socks. What would you do if I'd get your pants and finger your butt?
Starting point is 00:31:03 And he was like, you're my sock puppet. You're my sock puppet. What would you do? Next year, somebody's going to go to the Meg Galloway and they closed backwards with a zipper in the back. You know what they're there for. Oh, yeah. And you go they listen to the brilliant idiot.
Starting point is 00:31:13 You got a sign. You got a sign. You are sending out a fucking bat signal. Fill this up. Yeah, and don't wear a piano on your back. If you really gay, if you really bought that gay life, wear a dick on your back. Oh.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Okay? I would love to see that. I would love to see a stud go to the Met Gallo. With a dick on their back. With a fucking strap on on their back. Okay? Young M.A. pull up. What's up?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Big plastic strap on on the back. What's happening? Boom. You know what I mean? Boom. I feel like Dolchi would do it or, uh, with the other girls
Starting point is 00:31:41 Man They caught Dochi looking a little upset I saw that I didn't I didn't I didn't understand what was going on it I saw the video but I didn't understand what was going on She wasn't dressed yet or something So I think it's dressed
Starting point is 00:31:53 This is the tricky one is like People are going to take a video and then try to Make it her entire character Yeah I think she was maybe speaking And not the best way to some of the people That were like kind of helping her But there's also part of me
Starting point is 00:32:06 It's like she's probably stressed out She's probably feeling a little insecure This is her first Metcala. She wants to, you know, make a big grand entrance. Well, let me ask the question. I saw that video, but then I also saw them bring like that thing, whatever that is. I don't know what the fuck that is, but whatever it is is blocking the cameras. It's blocking the camera so that she can have the reveal in the place for the reveal.
Starting point is 00:32:28 So did she hold the elevator up until they went and got that thing? I'm not sure. I'm not sure, like, how it functions. Why does it matter? I don't know. Why does it matter if she? I think it plays into the stereotype that, like, celebrities and famous people are mean to the people that work for them.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And I think that it riles up the average person who's just like, oh, look at them, treating the people around them like shit. I was saying, why does it matter if they catch her coming off the elevator right now? Oh, well, yeah, because they're going to catch her eventually. I think maybe we just want a big reveal or something like that. I just think it's very tricky. How old is Docheon? She's like, in her 20.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Like, obviously you want to speak nicer, of course. I'm sure she wouldn't speak nice here, but it is one of those things where, like, you know, she's probably thought so much about this. She's worried about having a good look. I don't know. I don't want to act like they're not adults here, and you should treat people nice. But at the same point in time, it's like people can have a fuck up and it doesn't define their entire character. It is, I agree with that. And it is interesting to me how quick people are ready to pounce on somebody.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Because I saw people reposting this yesterday saying, his, don't you, her bad attitude. I'm like, when did dochi start having a bad attitude? When she got really successful. Exactly. killing it and she's the poster child and she's everybody seeing her success and then it's easy to kind of fight. That being said, you want to hope that those people are nice. How do we know that literally 30 seconds after that she didn't go, I'm so sorry. I was fucking nervous and I don't want people to judge me and I like how do we know she just didn't apologize everybody on the team?
Starting point is 00:33:56 I honestly don't know what this video is about. Spotify, it's Jay Shetty. Are you one of those media strategy people scrolling through spreadsheets, searching for an audience that pays twice as much attention to your ads than they do on social, let me introduce you to fans. And they're here with me on Spotify. Trust me, I know fans. They don't skip. They stay for hours. They don't move on. They manifest. They're not a demographic group. They're fans. Spotify advertising. You're among fans. I was at the University of Chicago this week, right? I had to do a, I don't know what you call it. It was one of those things where they want you to be there for two weeks. But of course, I I can't be there for two weeks.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I was there for the day, and they had the students come in and do office hours. And, you know, a bunch of different students would come in and have, like, one-on-one-one time with me. And then me and David Axelrod did a 75-minute conversation for the student body. Cool. But one of the kids there, because, you know, a lot of the kids there, most of the kids there are, like... You were talking to media majors or you were talking to... Polyside. So a little bit of the couple.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Most of the people there are Polyside majors, right? That's cool. And one of the kids stood up... And a lot of them are media, too. One of the kids stood up and asked me a question. He said... he said, why is the media system broken? He was basically talking about there's a broken media ecosystem.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You know, he was talking about, you know, how clips and all this, all this different stuff. And I said to him, I was like, yo, the media ecosystem is not broken. Okay. The way we consume content is. Talk to us. Because we'll watch this. And let it define. Define a person's whole narrative.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Let's use podcast for example. Oh, dude. And I use, I actually used your example. I actually used flagrant as an example to the students. I was talking about the Pete Buttigieg interview. You can watch two minutes of that interview. And everybody, I saw people just mad. Like, oh, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:35:53 Why Pete go on this show, blah, blah, blah, this and that I'm like? Number one, did you watch the clip? No. And if you did watch the clip, did you go take the time as a consumer to literally go watch the full podcast? You have to nowadays. So the media ecosystem isn't broke. The media ecosystem is doing what it's doing. It's up to us to go do our due diligence
Starting point is 00:36:17 and take in the full context of things. Okay, I think you're 100% right because you're treating people with the most agency. You're going, you're an adult and you should be able to consume things as an adult. And you shouldn't just be spoon-fed things that satisfy your lust and desire. And hatred or support, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Unfortunately, I think one thing you could say about media, and it's not just politics, by the way, it's medicine too. But like, it's very easy. I think most people, they have a certain feeling about the world, and they're going out there looking to satisfy it. And here's the dangerous thing. It's not just the consumers. It's the people in media also because they get views and clicks on satisfying their own viewpoint, which is often their audience viewpoint. So, like, Flagrant's a perfect example, right? because I heard, I've seen like, I don't want to go like liberal media, because it's not all liberal
Starting point is 00:37:10 but I've seen like a lot of accounts and a lot of these so-called like journalists and experts, like specifically trying to like paint flagrant in one way, right? As conservative. And I go, I go, if you actually like watch flagrant and you know flagrant, it is, it might be the only pod, well, and brilliant, with actual diversity. I'm not talking about the way we look. Yeah, we're diverse. Of course, naturally.
Starting point is 00:37:33 You've got a black dude. You have an Indian dude. you got a white dude, another white dude, right? But in terms of, like, intellectual diversity, like even diversity within Florida, Miles is this, like, liberal communists from Florida, his producer, but Mark grows up more conservative, religious. Akash grows up in conservative Texas,
Starting point is 00:37:49 but he also has, like, liberal leanings because he was a brown dude growing up in Texas after 9-11, right? Me, I grew up liberal in New York. Alex grows up in this beach community out there and Far Rockaway, right? More like a surfer guy. And lies about the hood, and lies about the hood, paint his nails, et cetera, right? Obviously, he's boogieboarding all day.
Starting point is 00:38:06 So the point of that I'm trying to make... Yeah, of course. It's put in the back of his wet suit for sure. It's only wet on land. Absolutely. So, but like you actually get different viewpoints. We're like this man, O's Fear, Bro, Pod. Two of the guys on the podcast have only had sex with one girl, the person that they married.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like they clearly... And I don't even know if they're aware of it. And that's the sad thing because some of these people consider some journalists. They're not even doing the due diligence to look into what the show is, which is like, in my estimation, that imbrilyneedits are like the last bastions of true diversity in podcasting.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And then we get labeled in this certain way and they take clips out of context and don't even apply any of their liberal progressive values to them. And they'll just go, oh, this is, this is meat. And I can feed it to my audience and I'll place them in this certain way. And that's why I said it's up to the consumers. Like we keep talking. It's the consumer has to go do their do-dilings. Listen, that's probably why we might come off as contrarians.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Because if I see a clip of something, the first thing I'm going to do is I got to see what this is attached to. And then I'm going to spend my day or whatever couple of hours watching this whole thing. And then I'm like, oh, I understand the perspective now. I understand where this person was coming from. I get what they were trying to say. I went on triggerometry pod. You know, I went on that. And a clip, they got a clip from that pot, right?
Starting point is 00:39:32 And I'm being so reductive because I'm a fucking comedian and I'm talking to other comedians, right? And I'm trying to talk about the context of the whole clip is how the priorities or the perceived priorities of political parties have kind of change. And how when I was growing up and Democrats are the coolest thing on the fucking planet, we're like open and accepting and we saw value in all these different communities. We're like, yeah, gay should get married. Gay is fucking awesome. And black people should have rights and the conservatives weren't there during the civil rights movement. And Democrats really were. and that was awesome, right?
Starting point is 00:40:02 Like, the president, Bill Clinton was cool. Like, he was making an effort to, like, show that he understood other people. Not only is he going on a fucking Arsenio Hall, but there's a little part of this, like, all right, this guy's getting this fucking dick suck. And I'm so reductive, and I just make it about. And then I go, and now look at conservatives. They're the ones saying you should be able to say free speech, whatever the fuck you want. And what's his face got three baby daddy, three baby mamas.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And it's like, yeah, of course, I'm going to vote for a dude is getting some pussy. I'm being so reductive on purpose. And the clip that they show shows no. context of the conversation, it's just me going like, I'm going to vote for the guy that got three baby mamas. You get some pussy. And then it perfectly matches the manosphere perspective that they've created, right? And they don't allow any of the context in which they could learn from. You could learn about how people perceive your party through criticism. But unfortunately, they don't want to take any of that criticism. And without that, they won't learn.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And they want that to be our fault so bad. Well, they want to make a lot. us radioactive because then it means they don't have to change anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there is a little part of it, and I don't want to go too far with this, but like, I think when you actually don't respect people that disagree with you, the thing that we have here is we have like mutual respect. It's one of the things that makes brilliant. It's awesome. It's like we could disagree on things, but there's love here, so we have these fun conversations. Same thing with flavor, right? And I think it's the same thing with breakfast clothes, like the ethos of like how we've always created. I just like good information. Facts. It's really that simple. So, but the thing is, this is kind of what
Starting point is 00:41:29 I think is like when you're so locked into your party's identity, you think the opposition is evil. Like, I even saw it. And wrong. And wrong. And when you think people are wrong and evil, you don't respect them. You could speak down to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Which went viral. And anybody who watched the interview, they were like, this is the best we've seen Pete. He's a real candidate for president. Like every single person I know that actually watched the whole interview, that was their take. It went super viral. The world saw it for that reason that actually watched. But you can't get clicks by going, this is a great example of a good faith conversation and learning from somebody. You have to find a way. Like even when we agreed, the titles of the clips would be like, Pete, schools, MAGA. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like, you don't even know my philosophy on that. Like, I agreed with him because it's my criticism of libertarians. But you wouldn't know that because you don't bother to try to know. Like, they're making no effort to have good faith even listening, let alone conversation. And it's just one of those things where I'm like, What do we do?
Starting point is 00:42:30 When you're positioned in a way that's so ridiculous, do you... Nothing you can't do. Do you rebuke it? No. No, you don't even rebuke it. It's funny. People get mad, right? Like, I believe that there's a multiverse of all of us that exist.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Okay. So that's why I don't even get mad when people would be like, I don't like him. I don't know what version of me you saw. That, you know what I mean? That is fire. You don't like the version of me that someone told you I was. Yes, it shows you something that might back up what they said to you. And I might not like that version of me either.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Or I know what that was. Like you can tell me exactly what that trigonometry clip was. You know what your intention was. You know why you were saying what you were saying. If I don't, and I'm just like, this is another one of those Manistphere podcast. This guy right here, you know, he's out of the Joe Rogan camp. Look at this. Look.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Like, there's a clip that went viral of Joe Rogan a couple of weeks ago. There was Joe talking about deportation and how we can't live in a country where people don't have due process. You can't just be snatched people off the street. Basically, that's what you were saying. So there's still people coming through. Yeah. And there's probably still people coming through that are criminals. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:33 You know, but the thing is, like, you got to get scared that people who are not criminals are getting, like, lassoot up and deported and sent to, like, El Salvador prisons, like that kind of shit. This is the problem, right? Because the mainstream media has been putting out so much shit that I don't know what to believe anymore, right? I feel the same way. And so it's difficult, but it's something that we actually bore up in one of our conversations. we interviewed the guy from the Heritage Foundation. We brought this up because I think we talked about this with Doge as well.
Starting point is 00:44:04 When you do things quickly and you do things aggressively, that's how you get shit done, but that's also when mistakes get made. And I think a human being being plucked out of nowhere and ending up in a country has never been in, in a maximum security prison with gang members seems like a bad thing to happen to me. It's horrific. And I got that so many times in different group chats and I was like any of y'all that are surprised by this take. Y'all don't listen to Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:44:32 You don't listen and you have all these ideas of him which are complete bullshit. I've been listening for 15 years. Yeah. This is exactly why people like somebody like a Joe Rogan because he can be objective. And they would rather believe that hundreds of millions of people
Starting point is 00:44:48 are extreme right-wing magas than this person is a nuanced individual with unique thoughts that 100 million people might relate to because they are also nuanced individuals. Yes. It's just, at a certain point in time,
Starting point is 00:45:05 I think journalists have to hold themselves to a higher standard. If some asshole on the internet is tweeting something, that's one thing. But when you're talking about, like, the leaders of the field, when you're talking about, like, GQ, when you're talking about New York Times,
Starting point is 00:45:18 and they're presenting information, and they tell the truth by lying. Like, in all these articles, you know, we asked, like, you know how many, how many times did I ask you to reach out to Kamala. Oh, a bunch of times. Right? And like, you're connected with them. We've reached out to, we email, we have the correspondence. We showed that to these different people that write articles,
Starting point is 00:45:38 and then they go to the, and then they say this thing that's like so fucking great, because they can lie, they can tell, they can lie by telling the truth. They go, we reached out to Kamala's people, and they said that there was no effort to have her on the podcast. Oh, get the fuck, God. Now, here's the thing. That, Kamala's people are lying. Obviously, you know that because you reach out on our behalf, Mark Cuban, reach out on our behalf. We reached out directly on our behalf. We have the email correspondence to prove it. But all the article needs to do is say that Kamala's team said there was no effort.
Starting point is 00:46:06 And then people believe that that's the truth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if we're a right-wing magapod because we had Trump come on and we offered it to tons of Democrats and none of them would, would we not be a right-wee magapod if they ended up coming on? Why are y'all not now considered a progressive liberal make America gay again pod? Because we don't. People, it makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Bro, I saw one thing that was crazy, and this is just like the YouTubeification of everything. I saw one clip go viral on YouTube. And then I, sorry, on Twitter. And then I saw seven or eight other, like, liberal YouTube accounts literally remix the exact same title of the clip. Oh, I hate this. Or their YouTube videos. Oh, I hate this. And this is how narratives come out of nowhere that are fabricated and then become real in people's office.
Starting point is 00:46:56 That shit they do on YouTube should be illegal. I saw a clip that's, I saw a headline. And that shit said, Charlemagne to God slams Shannon Sharp, says Shannon Sharp is just like Diddy. Whoa. I didn't say no shit, lie didn't. That never came out of my mouth in no way, shape, or form.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Like, there's not even a way you can misconstrue that. You're just lying. And, like, you just made a headline that's just a complete lie because you want somebody to motherfucking click on. People will click on that shit. No, how about this? They won't. They'll just see the headline and then run with that.
Starting point is 00:47:31 And they'll believe it. How about that? But that's what I mean when I say, we have to do our due diligence. If you are interested in something, if you see something, click on it, take it in in this full context.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Because I remember our era when we used to put clips out because we were trying to lead people back to the full conversation. They're not even trying to do that no more. No, no, no, no, no. It takes too much, It takes too much intellectual honesty.
Starting point is 00:47:55 You know what? You know it would change completely? I don't know if it would change completely. But if there was no monetization on YouTube, there was no YouTube ads. Like, you could go get your own ads, but there was no YouTube ads. There would be no incentive to have the most clicky shit.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Yeah. And in order to get the most clicky shit, you have to have the most salacious, like borderline lying stuff. So when you remove that incentive, all the sudden, you might get some more truthful information out there. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:48:25 that they get paid to lie. Yeah. And rewarded more, the more they lie, they'll never stop lying. You know what's so funny? I don't think they care about money. What? I'm going to tell you what I mean about that. I think that...
Starting point is 00:48:37 The god who motherfuckers been watching R-Pod for two years. Hating. I think they like... You don't hate for two years or five years without making some money off it. You just stop watching, right? Or you love me. I agree. I think that there is the money aspect to it,
Starting point is 00:48:51 but I think some of these motherfucklers just really like the intention, the attention. They like the engagement that they get through enragement. So if I can take this clip, throw it out, put a bullshit headline on it, get everybody riled up and just sit back and be like, yeah. I did that. It's like I'm being an arsonist. It's literally like being an arsonist. I saw one dude.
Starting point is 00:49:11 But they would do it less. They would do it less. I saw one dude like he put some shit out. It wasn't it wasn't hand. He changed the thumbnail and title to make it even more salacious, hoping the view. views with Spike again. Like, he's like, he's like, all right, this, this lie or this fake narrative isn't working. Let me make the lie or fake narrative even more crazy so I could get it to get views.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I hate that. Zero integrity, zero care. And by the way, it's no one person that does this. I can name some people that are super really smart for real, super intellectual, have real audiences, have done real things in the game. And they still do shit like that? And there's part of me it's like, do they even know? Like, I see some of the clips coming from these people who are like, intelligent people, like, that have actually good, useful information.
Starting point is 00:49:58 There's this guy, Sam Cedar, who I think is, like, a smart guy, and he has good, useful information. And, like, on the liberal side, which I watch, like, I watch regularly, and I see the clip titles, and they're so, like, bitchy and sassy. It's like, destroys, maga, blah, blah, blah. And it's just like, bro, here's the problem with that. Here's the problem with the bitchy and sassiness is that it almost ensures that the people that consume your content are the people that already agree. And those are the people that need it
Starting point is 00:50:29 the least. The people that need your content are the people that might not agree with it. And after consuming it, because you are a smart, thoughtful person, they might change their mind a little bit. So do you want to change minds? Do you want to make America a better place? Or do you just want to monetize the people you do already agree with? Is that? I had somebody tell me one time, man, very smart person. A very smart person told me that, um, they had to do that because they were going viral for something. And they, we were, we were on the phone debating about something else. And they were telling me how they had to do that or say that just to go viral.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Not, no, get away from that shit. If you are over 50 years old, I'm not even joking. If you're in your 40s, really, and your intention is I want to go viral. At any cost. At any cost. You, you're awash to me. Ideally, you want to create something great. And then it goes viral.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Yes. But if you're just trying to create to go viral, and I'm not saying that that's all these people, but I am saying a lot of their, like, titling and thumbnails, especially when you're coming from, like, an expert, right? Like, if you're an expert in the field, this shit happens in the medical industry now, too. We had this guy, Peter Attila on the podcast, who's, like, one of the foremost, like, longevity experts. And I was talking to him about that.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I was like, bro, it's, like, so daunting, like, trying to learn about how to live better because there's so much misinformation out there. And he was basically saying, it's like, yeah, like, people will pull. put out salacious content that isn't really data backed because it will get so many views. And now you have people that are buying all this shit, this red light this, this ice bat that, and there's no data to back it,
Starting point is 00:52:09 but it's getting the views. So they're prioritizing views over health. And I think that happens with political discourse too. And listen, you could say this reductive or whatever, maybe we have some influence, but like, we're just fucking, we're comedians at the end of the day, we're just talking shit. And I know that people use that as an excuse and I get that, right? But our goal is to be funny. Like, we want to be funny and then have thoughtful conversations about
Starting point is 00:52:31 all these other things. Maybe you want to be thoughtful too. But if your identity is I am a political expert or influencer. Yeah. If that is what you've decided you are, then I think there is an expectation. Your standard is completely different than Andrew, Andrew, Theo Vons. Even me as a media personality, like, our standards are completely freaking different. Maybe that's That's where the media ecosystem is broken. Maybe the media ecosystem is broken because you have a bunch of people who where, I don't even know if we're media.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I don't even know, we're entertaining. They're trying to do, they're being critical of us having political conversations, which is ironic because you hear all these people in politics always say, I want more people to be involved in politics. And then the second that we take an interest in it,
Starting point is 00:53:15 they're like, these people aren't even experts. How are they involved in politics? You're what do you want? Right, but there was a time when people knew the difference. Like you knew Walter Cronkite talking to Bill Clinton was different than Arsenio talking to Bill Clinton. There was a time when you knew there was a difference. Even if they went on there and talked policy or something.
Starting point is 00:53:36 You just knew there was a difference. For some reason, they've taken everybody and put them all in the same pot. Yeah. That makes it strange to me. Yeah. Like Trump on flagrant isn't Trump sitting on meet the press on Sunday morning. When Trump's on flagrant or Trump's on breakfast club. Like, again, I don't want to speak for you.
Starting point is 00:53:53 But for me, it's like I like talking in politics only when it intersects with culture. I just like talking about culture. That's for me. Like, because I'm not nuanced in the policies. I don't know these things. I never pretend to be, you know, or maybe I have. Fuck me. But you're also a taxpaying citizen.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Of course. Who has some ideas, who has some opinions, who has some thoughts. And we get a front seat to these people and be able to share these ideas with them. And if our shit is stupid, it's stupid. Like, I enjoy y'all and Pete talking because if there was something Pete agreed with, Yeah, okay, I agree with that and then give you another perspective. If he disagreed with something, he didn't shit on you. I'm like, I'm like, that's so fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:54:30 He just said like, no, well, actually, it's like this. Because he's not trying to dunk for views. Nope. He's actually trying to, what I would hope, is like America a better place. Huh? What you say? What do you say? You said something.
Starting point is 00:54:45 No. You said something and I didn't go there. What? You said something and I didn't go there. No, I meant like shoot the ball. and sometimes it'll rim out. Yeah, he's not trying to dunk. He's trying to shoot a well-executed shot.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Yes. Yes. I think that's a great way of putting it. Yes, and y'all not putting it up. Here's the thing. Number one, it's not a game. Number two, I don't have to have a defense up because I'm not trying to beat you at anything.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Well, I think what a lot of people do is, like, if you don't give enough pushback, they'll get devoured by their audience. So they're terrified of their audience rejecting them for treating somebody with empathy or humanity. We're not afraid of that because our audiences know who we are. But if your audience is completely tied into one political ideology, simply treating somebody on the opposite aisle with respect
Starting point is 00:55:29 might infuriate this audience that you've curated to think that those people are evil. I love my audience enough to tell them the truth and tell them how I feel. No matter what the cost. No matter what it is. I ain't going to never bullshit you. And I know my audience is smart enough to disagree with me. And be like, I don't know. A lot of people are wrong on that.
Starting point is 00:55:51 A lot of people don't have that courage. And they have access, right? Because they can call the radio station in the morning. They see us out in the street, right? Like, they can engage to say, no, that was not correct. There's somebody else. You know how many few times people yell at the brilliant idiotist podcast? Yeah, I love it.
Starting point is 00:56:04 As they're driving, they're yelling. Like, no, that's not right. Good. Wait, that's fine. Yeah. I'm not the person that's going to ever give you the Amen Corner. Like, and I hate that someone. I can watch when somebody's performing.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Like, you know, my favorite? My favorite is when somebody is like on a panel or something and they're on a panel with people who may not necessarily agree with them and then that person on the panel says something to your point that that other person knows
Starting point is 00:56:31 is going to make social media go crazy so now they got to pretend to be all they got to speak for all of social media so then they just start performing and that's so wrong and this and that's like come on knock it off. Yeah, stop. Like stop.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Like, the shit ain't that deep. You're not having a real conversation. You're just trying to win tweets. Yes. Win the approval of people. And guess what? You will never please every fucking body. So you just need to do you.
Starting point is 00:57:00 So I don't know. That was a great question that guy at the Chicago University asked me. But now that I think about it, the media, if the media ecosystem is broken, it's only because we don't know how to differentiate, you know, between the different types of media. Like CNN and MSNBC are not. doing what Joe Rogan. Yeah. Brilliant idiot is flagrant is doing.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Yeah. It's different. And we don't have to. It's harder for them because the truth is boring. So they have to make this decision. It's like, are we going to disseminate the boring truth? Or are we going to try to be as salacious as these comedy podcasts? They're having fun.
Starting point is 00:57:36 And they've chosen to be more salacious instead of being more truthful. And now, don't get me wrong. Some of them are being truthful. But what I think is the titling and the thumbnailing is being. being salacious in an effort to compete on YouTube for views. And I think what happens is you lose out on the people that should be consuming your content the most, which are the people that disagree. That's what I think kind of sucks.
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Starting point is 00:58:47 It's right here in my bag. It is this, baby. Don Staley, Uncommon Favor. basketball, North Philly, my mother, and the life lessons I learned from all three. It will be in bookstores everywhere. May 20th, everywhere you buy books, May 20th, okay? This is a fantastic read. It's coming out on my book in print, Black Privile was publishing with Simon and shoes.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Look at this, though. Look at this. Great. Look at this. You see this? You see this? I want you to feel this, feel this, Alex. I'll feel it.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Feel it. Feel it. Feel it. Feel it. Oh, textured like a basketball. Texted it like a Wilson, NCAA. basketball, baby. Okay?
Starting point is 00:59:26 Okay? I'm laughing because what just said when she found said. What did Jess say when she fell? Is this Braille? That's a soul. She's from Baltimore. She was dead serious. I was like, feel this.
Starting point is 00:59:40 What does that feel like? She was like, Braille. Like, why would Braille be on the back of the book? And even no words on the back. Look at the back of the book. Is there any words on the back? There's no words. No.
Starting point is 00:59:50 There's no words on the back of the book. Just an adorable picture of Dawn. That's right. That's right. But go get uncommon in favor available everywhere you buy books, May 20th. You can pre-order it now. And your production company? I mean, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Cool. Oh, my gosh. I'm seeing a lot of media around his production company, Charlotte. Listen, man. Let me see. What did we announce? We announced that. We're the reaction videos to that.
Starting point is 01:00:16 You know, come on, man. Yo, why aren't there any reaction videos? Do you start a production company? No, I want to talk about nothing good. The guy who produced one of the most successful franchises in history. Basil Iwanik. Basil Iwanik. But you know what's so crazy?
Starting point is 01:00:28 I mean, they announced that in a variety article. But what we announced this week was that myself, along with Basil Iwanik, who created the John Wick franchise, a producer of John Wick franchise. He didn't create the John Wic franchise. We're putting out our first film through our production company, Southland Stories, starring Jonathan Majes. And the film is called True Threat. Okay, and we're scheduled to begin production this summer.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I don't know if that's the best name for a Jonathan Majors film right now. It's fantastic. It's a revenge thriller. Oh, no. That's right. Oh, no. Let's go, Jonathan. It's a revenge thriller.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Let's go. You know what's so funny? People were saying, that's why Chalermaine be defending Jonathan. No, I'm defending Jonathan because Jonathan is on video running away from a white woman all through New York City. That's number one. But number two, this is not even my first project with Jonathan. You know, me and Kevin Hart, executive produced Broke Down Profits by my man S.A. Cosby.
Starting point is 01:01:27 That came out like a year ago. We were nominated for a, was it a Webby or an Audi? I think it was an Audi. We were nominated for an Audi Award for that project. That project stars Jonathan Majors, as well as Brian, Tyree Henry and who else is on that? Donnell Rillings, Dasha Polanco. Oh, that is another church announcement I got.
Starting point is 01:01:45 We're dropping another audible original on May 8th called Kingsland starring Winston Duke and Kingsland is about the most desirable place to live it's the world's safest country it's a fictional place and it was funded by the U.S. Reparations Act
Starting point is 01:02:02 and a bunch of billionaires and it rose from the sea to become a haven for black excellence so you can listen to that on Audible starting on May 8th because honestly man that's... So wait, let me understand this.
Starting point is 01:02:15 So the American government and a bunch of billionaires, they create a place to send all the black people back to... Well, no, think about it, right? If you create a safe haven, when we talk about people building our own communities.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Right, right. Right? Yeah. That's what these black people did. So not only did the U.S. government give us reparations, you have these billionaires, and not just black billionaires,
Starting point is 01:02:46 people who want to see black people succeed and want the upper mobility, and they took their money and created their own country. Country. But it's somewhere else. It's not here. No, Kingsland is in, it's in America. Oh, it's in America. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like, it's like Puerto Rico or something like that. Something like that. Got it. That's interesting. That's why it was funded by the U.S. Got it. Reparations. So like Atlanta, but less gay. Yes. Got it. That would be Queensland. Andy and Weezy, I didn't want to do everything, but yes, Mandy and Weezy come out in June. We got a lot of content, man.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Let's go go ahead. Let's go go ahead. Just out here working, man. You know, we're just out here doing what we do. Thank God for the position. Thank God, man. Shout out God. Shout out God.
Starting point is 01:03:33 That we're able to have these opportunities to create opportunities and just work, man. Shout out God. So, yeah, I can't wait till y'all see true threat, though. I'll be honest with you. It's like, salute to my God, Gerard Butler. he wrote an amazing, amazing, amazing script. And it's not just Jonathan Majors. It's going to be a whole cast.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Yeah. So it's like a whole cast, but he is the lead. But this is a role, I think that he's like, he's really, really built for. Yes. Did you get Jonathan Majors for the low because he's going through some stuff? No. You didn't hit him with like a little discount?
Starting point is 01:04:11 You didn't get him? No, that has nothing to do with me. What you mean? I'm producing. I don't have nothing to do. with the finances of, but I saw people saying that too. I'm just like,
Starting point is 01:04:22 y'all worry about the wildest shit. I think, what are you kidding? We're a production company that's filming and shooting our own shit. Does Jonathan Majors know that, and does Michael B. Jordan, do they both know that we are, that they inspired that picture?
Starting point is 01:04:40 Yeah, to that picture. I don't think so. We got to tell him. When he comes up here to promote the movie. Promote the movie. Yeah. We got to tell him. He should have him on flagrant.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Oh, hell, yeah. You should have him on flagrant. One million per- Godth is great in conversation, by the way. You never seen Jonathan in interviews? Yeah. Yeah, he's great in, he's great in conversation. The thing I like about, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:04 a show like flagrant is all comedians that are actually smart and know how to hold conversation. Right. So you've got to let you regard that. Yeah. Like, that's the only way. You can't clench your butt cheeks for three hours.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. You can't. Yeah. It's the same thing. That's the beauty of long-form podcast, but everybody, here's the thing, everybody can't do long-form content. There's some motherfuckers, I don't want to hear y'all talk for time.
Starting point is 01:05:27 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And even if it takes me a while, I get through it. Like, I listen to, I listen to the whole peak conversation because I wanted to. Right. And I enjoyed it. It was good conversation. He's enjoyable. He's definitely.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Two and a half hours. Like, two and a half fucking hours of enjoyment. Enjoyment. Right inside your body. He was inside you. You can feel it. You had to. You could feel it.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I like this one when I'm in the car when I'm right. I bet, dude. Yeah. Yeah, you would. Shout out to Pete Buttigieg. Shout out to Pete Buttigieg, man. All right, what else we got, man? You guys are retarded.
Starting point is 01:06:02 You really are. What else we got? Yeah, look. Shout out to Smokey Robinson, man. Smokey innocent. Oh, is he got... Oh, the allegations. That's the problem.
Starting point is 01:06:13 It's like the girl doing it, like Maya Ramdis is, I think a little bit questionable. She's had some things in the past. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:06:29 What? What can I even do with that? Yeah. Listen. What can I do with that? First of all, the four women who are suing him are Jane Doles. Yeah. That's number one.
Starting point is 01:06:38 I know one of their names. Number two. Myo Ramnas. I feel, this is my true personal opinion. Lawyers who are taking these. kind of cases, we need to bring up recall charges on them. This is organized crime at this point, yo. This is organized fucking crime at this point.
Starting point is 01:06:57 So you think that the lawyer got in touch with Mayo Ramdis and she basically, they conspired. No, what happens is these people go to these lawyers. These lawyers listen to their claims, no matter how outlandish they are, no matter how old they are, It doesn't matter if they have real evidence or anything. And then they go to the person that they're making the claim about behind the scenes. And they say, hey, X, Y, and Z is making this claim, but it doesn't have to be public. We can settle out. If you just pay us off.
Starting point is 01:07:31 And a lot of people will pay. Well, I don't know if people pay like they used to. I think back in the day, people used to pay more. I think now people don't give a shit. Because now they know that they're going to gain. Exactly. So now it's like back in the day, people would pay. and you would never hear about it, right?
Starting point is 01:07:47 Right? Now, they'll tell you if you don't pay, we're going to put this out. It's going to be all over the media. It's kind of like a smear campaign because you already know what these allegations are going to do. I like that. You don't give a fuck if these allegations are true or not. And so now all of this stuff is being tried in the court of public opinion. People's names are getting ran through the mud.
Starting point is 01:08:06 People sometimes lose opportunity because I even think nowadays the corporations even know like, nah, no. Yeah. They used to jump ship. Now they're like, this is about to blow over. Exactly, because it's like, it's a money grab. It's a fucking money grab. It's only fans for old .
Starting point is 01:08:21 You can't sell your pussy on the internet anymore. You can't sell your titty's on the internet anymore. So you come for something, dude. It's true, man. That's what it is. Hey, listen, Maya Ramdis, you know that you just try to do only fans for old . Miss Pat said that shit.
Starting point is 01:08:40 What she said? What she said? Miss Pat was like, shit. All the motherfuckers said, just do shit like that to me when I was in elementary school. They ain't had no fucking money. She was like, I wish I one of these rich motherfuckers would have touched me back in the day.
Starting point is 01:08:53 She was like, Indy, come over here and grab a titty real quick. It makes me, you know, which, when that shit was happening to me, he had some money because I could go all the way back, you know, from the next door neighbor, but they did and they ain't got no money. If I went back, I'd just be wasting my damn time with paperwork. So none of my None of my accusers had money
Starting point is 01:09:18 I was in the wrong neighborhood Shalemay What can you need to get a job So I can get your 401k seat Oh my goodness Damn He fucked up when When broke niggas touch you
Starting point is 01:09:34 I ain't have no look Come over here and fill on a titty shop I mean a DJ envy Come on I need a check DJMV who make me kiss you. But it's true, though, man. I think they should have to file criminally first. I fucking agree.
Starting point is 01:09:56 It has to be. Now, even though criminal and civil are totally different when it comes to, like, you know, the courts, because just because you can be found guilty criminal and that doesn't mean you're, no, you can be found not guilty criminal and still be found guilty civil. Yeah, because it's way easier to win a civil case. case and a criminal case. So I think what we should do is make people go through that criminal case first. And if the audience or if the jurors decide that you're not guilty, then that should weigh on the civil case as well. It's like a no-brainer to me. I agree, yo. I think that you-
Starting point is 01:10:28 And also, sorry to interrupt you, the lawyers don't get paid the same way off of a criminal case and they do off of a civil case. I think they just get a piece of the payment for a civil case. Yeah. So the lawyers are incentivized for you to do it civilly, not criminally. Because criminally, there is no payment at the end. You have to sue again civilly. So no lawyer is going to take up that criminal case because they're like, yo, you can't pay me and there's no money at the end of this shit.
Starting point is 01:10:54 So if the lawyers aren't willing to do it, now you don't got the RICO anymore. So that solves a lot. Come for it criminally. Yes. And win criminally. And even if you don't win criminally, at least there got to be some type of evidence. Like, we need evidence. You can't just be word of mouth, man.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Like, it got to be evidence. And at least if you do a criminal, then people will do their due diligence to get all the evidence. 100%. And then now, you know, you can do whatever you want after that. You know, civilly, the lawyers usually get about a third of the winnings. I thought they get 50%. No, I think it's down to a third.
Starting point is 01:11:27 But still, it's like... Still, it's crazy. I imagine these lawyers go, listen, you're not going to win a criminal court in a criminal case, even though they might because they'll make the money off the civil case. Yeah, this is some ambulance chasing bullshit. I hate it. Don't do this. I really think that the lawyers who take these cases need to be bought up on some type of RICO.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I really, this is organized fucking crime at this point. You can't prove that they're doing it. What do you mean? You can't prove that they're not genuinely taking on this case because they feel. Well, you need more people to do Jay-Z. You need more people to do like what Jay-Z did to Tony Busby then. Yeah. Like you got to start digging in.
Starting point is 01:12:05 And you have to have Jay-Z money to be able to do that. That is also true too. And not everybody got that shit. That is true, too. But listen, yeah, I don't like it. And what about, yo, what about all of the real victims? You know what I'm saying? Now nobody believes them.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Nope. Come on, man. You guys are crying wolf. Come on, man. Come on, man. I like this, too. Tom Brady over, what did that say? Tom Brady, what?
Starting point is 01:12:27 He's over the roast? No, like he speaks on a rose, how he regrets it. Oh, man, the reason I like this is because, you know, Tom Brady has been a mentor to Shado for a while. You've seen a lot of conversations that they've had. And there is nobody I would be talking to more. than Tom Brady if I was Shadour Sand. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:43 You know what I mean? Shador Sanders, literally, he was on, Tom Brady was on Logan Paul's podcast, impulsive. And he was, let me hear what he said, Taylor. Did he go so late in the draft? Elephant the room, Shudor Sanders. What happened, Tom?
Starting point is 01:13:00 Why, why, why did he go so late in the draft? I mean, there's, I, it's a good question. I was, I wouldn't, apart any evaluation process or to see that. Skip Bayless says otherwise. No, no. Well, everyone's got every, you know, that's a problem with media is everyone could just say
Starting point is 01:13:19 whatever the fuck they want. I actually texted Shador because I've known very well. And I said, dude, like, whatever happens, wherever you go, like, that's your first day. Day two matters more than the draft. I was $199. Yeah. So who could speak on it better than me? Like, what that really means?
Starting point is 01:13:37 Use it as motivation. You're going to get your chances. Go take advantage of it. of it. That's it. That's it. There's nobody else to talk to other than Brady. That would be my sole motivation. I would have Brady on my vision board.
Starting point is 01:13:50 You know what I'm saying? I'd be calling time. Everything. All I need is a shot. All I need is the opportunity. All I need is a fair shake. I'm going to get in here and bust everybody's ass. You got another man on your vision board.
Starting point is 01:14:00 It's crazy. Well, you got a zipper on the back of your picture. So, I mean, we're progressive, Alex. What else we got, Taylor, gang? Fans soothes the NFL for 100 mil over Shador Sanders draft slide. Once again, what is-lawyers? What the, why the fuck are you taking that case? Some of this shit got to come in your office and you got to be like, man, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Did you see the guy suing Steve Smith? Because Steve Smith piped his chick. Yeah, that's crazy. Did you see that story? Nobody paying attention to that story. Hold on. I mean, I saw the story. Yeah, I remember the story.
Starting point is 01:14:34 I didn't know he was suing him. What? How can you sue him? Hold on, man. Steve Smith. Yeah, this is getting crazy. What? Everyone's trying to get some money.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Former Panther Steve Smith, Sr., sued by man who alleges affair with wife. A lawsuit filed against former NFL star and analyst Steve Smith, Sr., accuses the former Carolina Panthers wide receiver of having a month-long affair with a married Baltimore Ravens marching band member. The band member's husband, Antonio Martinez, is asking the Panthers legend in North Carolina Sports Hall of Fame for more than $100 grand in the civil suit filed Tuesday in Mecklenburg County Superior. Court is filed under North Carolina's alienation of affection law colloquially
Starting point is 01:15:16 what is this word? Colliqually known as a home record law which allows a spouse to sue a third party for interfering with and destroying a marriage's love and affection. Only a handful of U.S. states allow such lawsuits. Now, it is the law that's the law. It is the law.
Starting point is 01:15:33 But yo, what is Snoop Dog say in the 90s? You b. B. Shoes chose me. How are you mad at Steve? Steve, Steve shouldn't be the one that fucked up this marriage your wife is. Steve ain't, was it, Steve's intention was not to wreck your marriage. Steve's intention was not to cause your wife to be more affectionate. All Steve was trying to do is get his dicks up.
Starting point is 01:15:53 How sexist is this law? How sex is the fucking law that the man gets the blame? Well, it assumes that women don't have control of their actions. Ooh. And then they can be easily swayed. Ooh. Right? So it's like you can sue a man because these women are too dumb to say no.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Maybe we should get rid of some of these antiquated laws that assume that women don't have the intelligence or IQ to tell a guy, I don't want your dick in me. She chose to have that dick in her. Yeah. She chose to have that dick in her. Sue her. With her intelligence, though.
Starting point is 01:16:23 She just clearly wasn't happy with that guy. No, that doesn't mean she wasn't happy with that guy. Sure, she made a decision. That's not true, though. She could just be a whore. Yeah. She could just be a whore. That means she wasn't happy.
Starting point is 01:16:36 She could be a happy whore. Happy at home. I'm saying, but like popping that pussy with a freaking former wide receiver one of the greatest football players
Starting point is 01:16:43 of all times. That's true. It's just the same as men cheating too though. It's just the same as men cheating too. So you think it's human? Like you're,
Starting point is 01:16:53 you're okay with it? No, I'm not saying I'm okay with it. Black men don't cheat for us to them. In general, it says if humans don't aren't happy with their situation,
Starting point is 01:17:02 they're going to go cheat if they have Why don't they just break up? Why do they have to cheat? You're right. But I'm just saying. I mean, clearly she wasn't,
Starting point is 01:17:10 clearly she wasn't that not happy because she's still with the guy. To this day. She got, she got caught cheating. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because she fucked the big black man.
Starting point is 01:17:22 That's why we get into divorce. He's five, nine. Shit. That's his height. Yeah, exactly. That's his motherfucking height. Okay. He's three two where it counts.
Starting point is 01:17:34 God damn. Okay. What else we got, Taylor? Let's do some asking idiots, man. Let's do some asking idiots, man. Let's talk to the people, man. Asking idiots, Tim, U-R-Y-B-N says, best advice from a younger person.
Starting point is 01:17:54 The best advice from a younger person? I think he means for a younger person. No, I think he means like... Oh, what's the best advice you got from a younger person? Yeah. Yeah, nothing in a lot. What do they know? They don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:07 They don't know shit. Nothing in a while. They haven't taught you anything about yourself? Young people? Yeah, nothing in a while. They're not giving you advice. They might teach you something about yourself, but I don't think a young person ever gives you advice as valuable.
Starting point is 01:18:20 I'm really thinking about it. When it comes to, you're older, so if you're trying to learn maybe like technology or something better. Yeah, that's not advice. That's not advice. Like, that's just your, you know. Wisdom doesn't come from young people. But it takes years to get wisdom, you know. what can they even teach us right now?
Starting point is 01:18:40 I'm being on. Like when you ask us about social media and everything, you should do it that way. Yes, yeah, yeah, hey, could you show uncle to do this on my phone? All right, show up. Yeah, you got us. Yeah, I don't know how to work the phone. I have not.
Starting point is 01:18:54 You set up my ESPN account on the TV, boom, you got me. I like, no, don't get me wrong. I like listening to young people. I do, but I haven't gotten any advice from them. Yeah, it's important to understand how they feel about the world. And then from that, you can understand, like, the messaging they're consuming. But in terms of, like, wisdom, no, like, 19-year-old spit some bars that made me go, holy shit, I've got to do everything different.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I've seen, I mean, we're old. We've seen a lot of that. But it could just be invite. I think y'all's thinking about it. What's the best advice you got from a young person? Exactly. Technology. That ain't tech.
Starting point is 01:19:27 That's not advice. That's just like, yo, show auntie how to work this fucking phone. No, when it comes to, like, the aggregate, like, if they want to, it's own. wants to see how to get more views on a story. That's not advice, though. That's information. And they want to get into that. Yeah, that's not advice.
Starting point is 01:19:46 That's not advice. Advice is like life, wisdom and, like, how to be a human being. Like, we're not going to sit here and act like young people are out here failure to, like, the best of their ability. So it's not, I wouldn't, I wouldn't think it. I'm not looking in that way. I'm just saying in general what advice means. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Yeah, when I get some, I'll tell you. Two underscore favorite D says, what are we getting our wives for Mother's Day? That's a great question. And how much is a Mother's Day gift compared to a birthday gift? Less. There's less, right? And their first mothers?
Starting point is 01:20:23 No, they already had a Mother's Day. I feel like we gave them the best gift already. We made them mothers. Yo, you ate shit. What's you mean? You made a shit. We made them mothers. That's the best gift.
Starting point is 01:20:38 We gave them mothers. No, the best thing is letting them rest and y'all be the way. He's fighting. He's fighting today. I'm going to get you. I'm going to get you. And there's nothing you can do about it. You already invite the vampire in the room.
Starting point is 01:20:58 You're dating them mothers already. So I don't know what it is what I just said yet. I just still haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. Good. Can I see it on white people's time? You told me Thunderbolts is good, too. I ain't seen it yet.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Thunderbolts is going to. Is it the New Avengers, though? No, no, no, really. Why did they reveal that so early? They had to, because they would have got... Yeah, I don't want to spoil it. Nobody wants them to be the New Avengers, by the way. There's too much pressure.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Don't put that pressure on. I don't want to spoil. They're not really. And they're all the bootleg, to me, they're all the bootleg characters. Mm-hmm. That's up a monkey. You'll get it. I've got it, trust me.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Really? Yeah. All right. I don't know what I'm getting my wife for Mother's Day, man. Give him a rest. Apparently nothing. No, give them.
Starting point is 01:21:43 You wasn't planning on it. Admired them and give them rest. That's selfish. How? Mother's Day's further. I like that. Give them rest. For a day?
Starting point is 01:21:52 Yeah. And the rest of the 364, you're on duty? Yeah. You wouldn't take a day off? I don't think you can when you're a mom. Just pride, bro. Well, give me, what's next, Taylor? What's the neck?
Starting point is 01:22:07 Ha! Kenny Kelso says, It's going to happen. You were holding on for dear life. I just want to let you know. You are holding on for dear life. And when it happens, oh my God,
Starting point is 01:22:19 I'm going to run around the side of the walls that's fucking over my... Kenny Kelso says... 100%. What are Kenny Kelso say? He says, now that Shala has a movie studio, is there a brilliant idiot's movie coming out?
Starting point is 01:22:30 I don't have a movie studio. I have a movie production company. By the way, I've always had a production company. I've always had to see the God world. It's just that me and me and... Basil came together to do Southland studios to do film. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yes, brilliant-a-dious movie is absolutely positively the dream.
Starting point is 01:22:42 That's what we want to do in a fun way. We've got to figure out something that's really retarded. What about, have you ever thought about getting into fitness? Alexa Grin says, Alexa Grin says, who is the better person between you two? That's a weird question. Charlemagne's a much better person. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:05 I don't think either one of us are better than the other. I don't think that, no, I don't know what that even means. I really don't think I'm better than anybody except for like somebody who's done some real heinous shit. And I don't even know if I'm better than them. I don't think I'm better than anybody, but I don't think anybody's better than me. I mean that sincerely. I don't think anybody. At what you do?
Starting point is 01:23:30 No, no, no, no. Just like as like I don't look down on anybody, but I also don't look up on anybody. Like, I don't think that, like, you being rich makes you better than me. No, word, word, word, word. Like, just as a human being, yeah. Maybe there are people who are just, like, really good souls that I go, okay, I aspire to be like you. And that's what I think this person is talking about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:48 And, yeah, I don't know too many of those. I know some really good people that I think have amazing spirits. I mean, they walk in a room and there is a light. There is a glow to them like you wouldn't believe. Taylor walked in with a light of glow. That's only because she's pregnant. As soon as she pushed that baby, I was over. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:10 I'm going to be a new person. Do you really feel like that? That's beautiful. You are, though, because you're going to be a bomb. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, you will be. Would you? Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:20 A underscore D. Would you? I'm not even saying anything that makes sense. I'm just trying to throw them off. I'm just trying to stop him in his tracks. You're going to get it. We're not going to have a podcast anymore. You won't be able to say shit.
Starting point is 01:24:33 That's the thing. Everything I said. It is what it is. Black. Nope, nope. A underscore username. Shout out black. Shout out white.
Starting point is 01:24:43 It says. Shout out all different colors. Yellow. What's one thing? I like the white, though. Yeah, I know you do. Ask it. What's one thing younger you did that you wish he didn't?
Starting point is 01:25:00 What the fuck is wrong with these? Yo, listen, brilliant idiots, man. Y'all need to learn some grammar. What's one thing younger you did that you wish he did? I understand what he's saying, because he's talking about our inner child. Ah, okay, go. What's one thing? What's one thing?
Starting point is 01:25:15 What's one thing? What's one thing younger you did that you wish he didn't? Just like the knucklehead shit I used to do. What about you, Shows? Running a cartel. Mine is, I wish I didn't moan when he put it in. What are y'all doing with each other? right now. That is this, yo.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Gus? I don't even need to get him. I don't even need to get him. I don't even need to get him, I don't even need to get him. I don't even need to get him. I'm ending it now. I don't even need to get him anymore. I think he's really getting some trauma out.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Yeah, go get it out. He disguises that his joke. Go, get it out. Flex it. Feel it, man. Because Moulin. Do you feel it. You feel it?
Starting point is 01:26:09 Come on, son. Nah, you ain't laughing. Way out of this. You feel it, bro. Be honest with you. Oh, give me one more. No, I'm leaving. You're leaving?
Starting point is 01:26:22 God damn. Right when I'm about to express trauma? No, he was about to tell you what's really on his mind. Yo, give him. Or in his behind. Listen. All right, end the podcast. As always, if you listen to the podcast.
Starting point is 01:26:33 He got out of the episode. He got out of the episode. He was very close, but he got out of the episode. I blew myself up. You saw what I did there, right? As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiot's podcast.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Thank you for listening. Peace.

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