The Brilliant Idiots - Idiot Table Talk
Episode Date: November 11, 2021Charlamagne tha god and Andrew Schulz are back and ready to entertain with their brilliant and idiotic takes for this weeks trending topics. First they begin the discussion about the tragedy that happ...ened at Travis Scott’s concert, while adding their history facts from other concerts that may have went through something similar or worse. Next up, Charlamagne cleared the comments that Ye stirred up during the Drink Champs interview! Also, stay tuned because you find out Schulz is in full support of Dr. Umar’s school and Charlamagne does not play when it comes to Jada Pinkerton Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Now let's start this show.
Let's do it, baby.
Sorry, we had to leave you hanging last week.
Wax is here.
But you know, the guys are busy, man.
What you want us to tell you, man.
Yeah, we've been busy.
Your shirt says send new.
Yeah, we are here.
We just had that conversation
and your shirt says send dude.
That's what you were talking about?
Yeah.
Oh, you just thought I just came out of nowhere?
I didn't make wax.
That's you.
That is absolutely you.
No context.
No context.
That is absolutely who you are.
What's going on?
You know, I missed y'all.
What is that?
That's your line?
No, no, this is Lorraine Schwartz.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
She's a diamond jeweler.
Oh, yeah, I know Lorraine Schwartz.
Yeah, man, last week was hectic, you know, but we back.
A lot to talk about after a couple of weeks.
You said you was tired.
Why are you tired?
I just been moving a lot, man.
I was just on the road.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's been cool.
It's crazy when sleep don't matter.
Meaning, like, no matter what you do is just like you're always tired.
Yeah.
Always.
And, like, tired from not doing anything.
Like, the reason I was on the West Coast
because I'm filming this movie, right?
No.
Big Chatsy!
I'm not in, and it's a very small role,
but really cool people in it.
Like Eddie Murphy's in the film,
like Jonah Hill's in the film.
Oh, the Kenya Barrett's joint?
Kenya, yeah.
Oh, where, where, where?
Yeah, yeah.
Kenya put me in it.
Kenya's the fucking man.
Wow.
Can you be paying attention.
Salute the Kenya, you.
Salute the Kenya, you.
Salute the Kenya.
Can you pay the attention
to what's going on and all.
He knows. A shout to Weezy too, man.
Sluke the wheezy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Put the plug in there. So, but, um, yeah, that movie shit ain't for me, dog.
Hurt and wait.
Yeah.
We talked about that before, though.
That is, like, you're there for 12 hours and you might be doing like 20 minutes of stuff
total in the 12 hours?
You got to do it, though, shows.
No, no, no, I'm doing it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I'll never do it again.
Nah, no, no, no, no, no, no say that.
I'll say that.
I'll say that.
I'll say that.
I'll say that.
Don't say that.
Don't say that.
Why?
Because that's, I mean, that's, it's going to happen for you.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yo, there hasn't been a cool,
younger white comic from New York since Adam Sandler, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
I hear that.
Like, this is your lame, bro.
Put it this way.
Put it this way.
I love, like, what.
It's a Jerry sign.
It's a Jerry sign.
The coolest.
I love, like, what Kenya's doing, what, like, the writers are doing.
Like, and the, and the.
director of photography, like being involved in every scene, even if you're not in the scene,
but like caring about every scene, that shit's dope.
I could do that because you're making a masterpiece and you get to work with all these talented
people.
But like just doing the side stuff, like taking off two weeks from doing this, like we're busy
motherfuckers.
And to go from like running 100 miles per hour, like how we do to running zero miles per hour.
And I've been waiting too.
Yeah, like I was like, can you at least tell us moving the scene with you?
I did a scene with Eddie
Bomb my ass off
What do you mean?
What do you be?
What do you be?
Bad.
You got nervous?
You got nervous?
Not even getting nervous, bro.
I just, I was bad.
You know I love a good bum.
Dutown.
I thought you were going to pop out of dough with her.
Keep digging your grave, Sheltz.
How do you bomb at a film, though?
The worst thing is, it's like, nobody's supposed to laugh
because everybody's in it, right?
But like Keny's is dope.
He keeps throwing me like lines and scenes.
I don't even got lines in, you know?
And there was a scene with Eddie and Eddie was right there.
And I had a line and I didn't really know how to make it work.
That's on me and I just got to be better at it, you know?
And I knew it was kind of clunky, you know what I mean?
And I didn't.
Let's do it over.
Yeah, I did that.
Okay.
First time I did with Eddie, I say the line.
Let's say the line is.
So let's go to the park then.
Let's say it's that, right?
I go, so let's go to the park then.
And he just goes, and he just goes, yeah.
But is that the script?
Nope.
Maybe he forgot his lines.
No, he didn't.
No, no, no.
He didn't like it.
No, there was just nothing there.
He wasn't supposed to react.
He wasn't supposed to react.
Oh, so maybe it's because you've been on stage doing stand-up for so long.
You know, we're doing the podcast.
It was always used to reaction.
So maybe that's what it was.
Actually, you know, it's interesting.
It's like, I did do something that was kind of fun.
I got to like just give a speech at the rehearsal dinner of the of the wedding.
And that was fun.
And Kenny just came up like, yeah, just, you know, like riff something, do whatever you want.
And that was fun.
But I'm speaking in front of like a handful of people and the people on set.
This is literally what I do for a living.
And they're talking in front of thousands of people.
I haven't been that nervous to talk in front of people since I started comedy.
Wow.
Like, and I'm looking at the situation.
I'm like, why the fuck am I nervous?
I do this every single week.
Like literally.
next day, I'm going to go perform for 3,500 people in San Francisco twice.
Yeah.
Wasn't nervous.
It's a good feeling, though, man.
It was.
I'm going to tell you why it's a good feeling because, like, it's humbling, but also, like,
that's where you get your growth in those uncomfortable moments.
Like, if you don't feel something about something, something's wrong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to feel that.
Like, okay, and it's, maybe I'm just sick in the head.
I love having to do the breathing exercises and give me 10 minutes to meditate before it's
time for me to, like, pop out and do my thing.
I enjoy that.
Yeah.
I love it.
Nah, it's dope, man.
There was some funny shit, man.
Yo, Mike Epps is in it.
He's the man.
Mike's up is so goddamn funny, bro.
Mike is hilarious.
Mike Epps thought, you know,
Elaine from Seinfeld,
Julie Louise Dreyfus.
He thought that she was a Tina Faye.
I love me.
Bro.
Bro, it was amazing how genuine he was, too.
What did he say?
I love me on Thursday.
Hey, what's it like working with Tracy?
No, man.
No, man.
No, man.
Man, she should have hit him with...
She didn't hit him with the all-white women don't look alike?
I wish.
Oh, that'd have been amazing.
She was professional.
Like, I don't think I've worked in them in a while.
Oh, that's dope.
I'm happy for you, man.
Anyway, it's cool, great opportunity.
Kenney's the man.
But it is one of those things.
Like, acting is way different, bro.
Like, comedy is being funny intentionally.
Yeah.
And acting is being funny unintentionally.
Like...
Well, you know, acting is trusting the writers, right?
That's also true.
like that's nothing like there's certain dudes who was taking like liberties with the lines
but there's part of me it's like you know a motherfucker like worked on these lines for a while
word up you know I mean like I don't want to just come in here I'm a little part of this movie
and disrespect it so you know there was do you have you a good liar say again you gotta be a good
lie yeah yeah yeah but like if you notice like when you laugh in movies like the character is not
trying to be funny the character is being sincere yeah yeah right it's funny because he
believes it. He believes it. That's the comedy. That's the comedy. That's completely different
than stand-up. Stand-up is going, I feel this way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and this shit is funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, trying to do that in a movie doesn't exactly,
I don't know, doesn't exactly correlate, you know. It shouldn't, though. Say what? It shouldn't.
I know some people, we know some people who, you know, are comedians, and like, I even had
to explain to these people like, bro, you're not there to be you. You're playing a role.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're going in and do your line. Yeah. We don't need you to
put any sauce on this.
Like, what happened?
He didn't get,
he was on there and it kicked them off.
I'm not saying, I'll tell you.
Come on, man.
That's his story to tell.
That's his story to tell.
Who?
When you do stuff like, you know,
you got the script in your hand and you be like,
y'all think this shit funny?
No.
No.
That shit ain't going to work.
What I realized,
what I realize that the professionals do
is they get it right once
how it's scripted.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then they start playing.
Yeah.
Right?
But they get it down once.
Yeah.
And then they'll throw in a little thing and throwing a little thing.
And then what happens is this is like, if you throw in a little thing and it works,
the director would be like, oh, yeah, we kind of like that.
But now you're not disrespecting what was written.
You know, but.
I think people need to remember when it comes to acting.
People see things in you that you don't see in yourself.
So I have you here because you're Andrew Schultz.
But I also have you here because Andrew Schultz can play this role.
Yeah.
When I wrote this character, oh, I'm.
an Andrew Schott type comes in my mind.
So let me reach out to Andrew Schult.
And that's fine.
You know what I mean?
You're not here to be Andrew Schultz.
You're just here to be an Andrew.
I envision Andrew in this role.
Go play the role.
Yeah.
It's acting, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm playing a Jewish dude.
I got the Jewish star busted down, bro.
Really?
Oh, so they're going to jump on you.
What do you mean?
You know how the internet is.
I'm trans Jewish?
The same way they did Amanda Seals with the AK-A.
Wow.
Oh, they're going to kill.
They go do the same thing to you.
Well, what if I convert?
But you're acting, though.
You're lying, so they know you lying.
It's Andrew Schultz, even Jewish.
That's true.
That's wild.
That's a good point.
Anyway, I hate the internet.
Let's get into some shit, man.
Travis Gate, man.
Astro World.
Whose fault is it?
Wow.
What are your thoughts on it?
That's the question.
It sucks.
It sucks.
It's horrible.
It sucks.
It sucks.
It's a shitty situation.
And it's so easy to just blame him.
Because the more you kind of read about things,
it seems like the concert didn't exactly stop.
But then there's moments where it looks like he's, you know,
looking out for people and caring about them.
But I think what you've got to realize is that
if you're performing in these massive concert venues,
like you're used to seeing people pass out.
Yeah.
Every one of these people on drugs, people on exercising,
people on mushrooms.
Like, they're in the position where they could pass the fuck out.
Especially at festivals.
Yes.
These people have been outside in the heat all fucking dead.
They're doing drugs, drinking.
So it's not the craziest thing to see them do it.
If anybody should be held responsible,
it's the organizers that let this many people in
or the safety protocol that did, exactly,
that didn't block off, like I think they breached the gate.
It's like, yo, you didn't have enough security.
Like, you're getting paid so that you secure the venue
so that not too many people come in,
you're not overselling this thing
so that this exact thing doesn't happen.
It's not necessarily Travis's fault
for being on stage
and motherfuckers wanted to see him.
Called Astro World.
They know they do that to him every time
they see him anyway.
They always burn rush everything.
Well, he's a razor.
I mean, that's what he's, you know,
his fans are called ragers, right?
I don't know.
That's what I heard.
So, like, you know, that's the type of stuff
that, you know, he encourages at his concerts.
He didn't at this particular show,
but he has before.
But I agree wholeheartedly with you.
Like, ever so often,
I'm old, right?
So I've seen these things ever so often.
I remember, I think Pearl Jam,
I think it might have been the early 2000s
when eight people died at a Pearl Jam concert.
You know, I remember things like,
I've read about like the Who concert
where like, that's a terror attack.
Yeah, not Arianna Grande, Taylor.
Jesus, good.
Now I've got to look at my list.
Does anybody ever die in Michael Jackson's?
I know people always passed out on his.
Yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure people die at concerts.
the top. Oh, yeah, CNN posted this. This was a good one, right? They talked about how Astro World
has joined the list of concert tragedies, right? David Cassidy at White City Stadium in 1974.
700 people were injured when it was just a crowd search. Same thing that happened here. It was a
crowd surge at a concert at White City Stadium in London. This was wow. John Davidson at the
Supple Club. There was a sizable crowd at the Supple Club. A fire broke out. A hundred and sixty-six-five people
died.
Yeah.
Like 165 people
because everybody rushed
to exit at the same time.
The Who
at Cincinnati's
Riverfront Coliseum
in 1979.
11 people died
after a crowd surge
of those attempting
to get into the concert
by the Who.
Same thing.
People got trampled.
People got killed.
Pearl Jam.
This one I was talking about.
Eight people died
of suffocation
and a ninth person
died at the hospital
days later at a
Pearl Jam performance
at the Denmark's
rock slide festival
back in 2000.
Guess where the trouble started?
In the Mosh Pit.
The station nightclub fire in 2003.
A hundred people died during a concert by a band called the Great White in Rhode Island
because some pyro techniques went off and it caused the fire
and the combination of flame smoking the crowd trying to get out, you know,
called people to die.
This was wild.
21 people died at a techno music festival in 2010.
21 people died because of a stampede with more than 5.5.
500 people injured.
Right.
A ghost ship fire in 2016, an underground electric music party.
36 people killed because of a fire that, you know,
trapped people in attendance.
So my point with all of that is, I've never seen a situation where the artist is getting
to blame like Travis Scott is.
Now, Travis was on stage and he was inciting a riot, and he was telling people push and
fight and tear down the barricades and all of this other stuff, totally would understand.
Buck of you bucked, though.
I didn't see that in this situation.
I didn't see that in this situation.
I mean, it looked like he could be a little bit more sympathetic
to what was going on in the crowd.
But again, like, you're not used to people dying at your show,
so you're not even thinking that could be a possibility.
I don't even know they're dying.
Say what?
He don't even know they're dying.
Like, how many times he done after work?
There was like an ambulance coming through and, you know.
Medics are on site at these festivals.
Always.
Yeah, probably ambulance is a little different.
But never.
Like, the ER, the ambulance truck is always in these festivals.
I think that the reason they're pushing the blame on him
is because of like his branding is the mob.
The rager.
Right?
And like not even like like wherever he goes,
he makes sure people know that there are people that want to see him.
Like so if people are running up and jumping on to a McDonald's,
he's posting out on the Instagram or he's showing that, right?
If people,
if he shows up to like an event in Paris Fashion Week and the mob rushes him,
he's showing that.
I've seen that.
That's what you know about him.
Exactly.
That's what you know about him.
So like, and that's good marketing because it makes you feel like,
man, this guy must be really popping if people are willing to chase after him.
So he understands the marketing that.
And then what happens is when you reward something, people do it.
So I think people are going, well, you told people to rush you.
You said that's what your fans do.
And then they did it.
And then people ended up dying.
Now, I don't think that that's his fault.
I don't think that that's his fault at all.
Unless he was on stage encouraging it.
If he was on stage encouraging it in that moment, yeah.
But I get what you saying.
You know, prior he might have been doing stuff like that.
But guess what?
If you're the venue of Astro World, you should notice.
protect this shit.
Yeah.
You should notice.
They see how many videos.
I'm just saying like, I think people are worried right now about like Travis's future
shows a little bit.
They're like, will people come out to future shows?
This is only, no, this is only going to help.
Yes.
This, they're coming.
Oh, yeah, yes.
This is, I know this sounds fucked up.
This is the best marketing for an artist ever.
This sounds fucked up, but I'm being serious.
What kid right now, we're talking about teenagers.
What kid don't want to come to?
the show that motherfuckers are willing to die
to be at. I think you're wrong on that one now.
No, no, I think so. No, I think you're wrong.
Because it's a real good weed. If I see
somebody pass, I might want to hit that one. You want to hit it?
No, no, no, no. You see some weak shit, like, I don't feel
nothing at all. You don't want. Yeah. Do I think this
is going to stop people for coming to Travis shows? No,
do I think this is good marketing? Absolutely
not. Like,
that's the last thing you want is eight people
dying at your show, the nine people or whatever it is.
More people are going to want to see these shows. They're going to want to
experience it for themselves, man. Like, people are drawn to
danger. People are drawn to the things
that excite them. And like you have an artist
who is right now
so admired, so beloved that people
are willing to trample over other
human beings just to get close to him.
That's not new though. Shouts?
Not to your point. That happens, but that's not new.
No. People get trampled at these shows
all the time. Michael Jackson.
I mean, the last one you were talking about was David
Cassidy. I don't even know what that is. That's because
there were deaths involved. But these things happen
at these shows and people don't die.
People get pushed down. People get
knocked over, people get walked on.
I've seen Jay-Z live. I never seen a single person
running a table. A football game, they always
Fee's not that kind of artist, but I grew up on.
That's what I'm saying? Like, I grew up on crunk music, bro.
So what, people?
Like, look at a fucking all that. A little John
of 3-6 Mafia. But then I'm rushing the stage
for 3-6 Mafia. Then I'm rushing the stage.
No worse. With a 3-6 Mafia say,
I bet you won't. Hit a motherfucker.
The whole crowd. Everybody's going.
You better get the fuck out the way.
It's a reason. Tare the club up was on CNN
back in the day. And they was like,
this shit from nightclubs.
But those are calling commands.
You know what I mean?
Like you're asking somebody
to do a specific action.
One of my boys got,
they broke both his legs.
Oh.
Yeah.
How?
He got trampled in the club.
That shit happens.
I mean, it's not like it doesn't happen.
Like, you know, that's all.
Like, yes, the deaths are like super, super duper tragic,
but fights happen at these shows all the time.
People get pushed down and trampled at these shows all the time.
People pass out from dehydration and exhausting.
People overdose at these shows all the time.
It's the deaf.
that's what sets everything off
but I just have never personally seen
an artist get crucified
so quickly like this shit just happened
this weekend and they already took him off
Fortnite. They got a petition
for him not to perform at Coachella.
I'm like... Oh wow, I didn't
know he was getting canceled for this.
That's my point. Like, why? That's what I'm missing.
Like, what am I missing?
Oh, I didn't know he was getting canceled.
I'm so removed.
Guys, I'm a movie star. I don't
I don't think about...
Two weeks ago.
what you guys think of life.
But even this statement, right?
It says Houston police warned Travis.
I'm about to get cut off this whole movie.
It says Houston police warned Travis before event.
That headline is very misleading because when you read the whole article,
the sheriff says, yes, he warned Travis about, you know,
just the validity of the crowd.
You know what I mean?
But he said that it was a very respectful meeting.
And Travis's team and everybody, you know, what did it say?
Where were the police when they stormed the barricade?
That's my point.
If you talk to Travis beforehand and you talk to Travis beforehand and you
tell Travis you have concerns, then guess what?
Up security or whatever to have you, whatever they're doing.
They're looking out for themselves.
You saw how much they were pushing that narrative of the dude walking around stabbing
people with the fentanyl.
But here it's like, why are you pushing that narrative?
You're pushing that narrative because you want to remove culpability from you.
You should have organized the event better.
And by you, I mean the police or whoever the sanctioning body is to organize these large
events.
Like you got to make sure that you are prepared for this shit.
Yeah, and look at this, right?
Read the statement.
You visit the artist.
in his trailer, right, before his show on Friday.
So he's already there.
And you got concerns about the energy in the crowd, right?
So what is he supposed to do?
That's my point, exactly.
We'll stop the show.
I don't get it.
And then it says the energy I've been building for monks among fans who are drawn to see Scott.
Yo, you've seen Astro World before this.
It's not, you know, Travis Scott's first row.
You know what I mean?
No pun intended.
You know what I mean?
It was unprepared.
And you got 50,000.
people there. I don't even know.
When you have $50,000 people, how much security do you need?
I don't know, but there's probably some
number where it's like one per hundred people.
Yeah, that's what it is.
But here's the fucked up thing. It's like, how
much responsibility
can the artist have? Like, the artist's got
to pick the people who's going to perform with, pick
the songs he's going to perform, worry about what show
he's going to do. The artist isn't supposed to be
walking around the fucking venue making sure that there's
a certain amount of security guards in this
area, a certain amount of security is in this area.
There's not too many people let in over here. At a certain
point time, you have to delegate that responsibility.
That's right. And it's like, he's delegating the responsibility, be it to the Houston Police Department
or whatever the venue staff is. And if they're not coming up, they got to be held responsible,
not the artist. That's right. And that's my thing, too, like, if you're Travis Scott, that's the other thing.
People that say things that he should have stopped the show, he didn't, you know, if he saw what was going on,
or have you ever looked out, looked out of, out at a crowd of 50,000 people?
You know how much 50,000 people is?
It's heller. Well, I do know how much. The fact that he spotted one person.
Like literally 50,400.
Yeah, 9-9 plus one.
24 hours feel like a day, bro.
I felt like a whole day.
Yo, do you know how much 50,000 people?
You know how many people 50,000 people?
It's a wild guy right here, not?
What I'm saying, though.
Look at that, man.
When I'm posting, how can I see what's going on in the back, yo?
Nah, that's crazy about.
And, by the way, I'm shocked that he saw when he stopped the show, you know,
and ask him to help somebody,
I'm shocked he saw that person.
Yeah, for a real.
Yeah, how do you think he noticed it?
I have no idea.
I also think that we have to stop projecting our hate of celebrities
onto these issues.
We don't hate them, y'all.
We're just jealous.
We let me see them fall, man.
But that's hate to me.
Jealousy, envy, hate, all of it is the same thing.
So it's like, people that are harping on this situation,
you never like Travis.
That's all it is.
Because there's no way you can't take a step back
and objectively look at this.
Yeah.
Because if that was Drake, which it was, it was Drake.
They suing his ass too.
The Drake didn't sue it too.
You wouldn't be on it like this.
You just wouldn't.
And because the type of music Drake makes, you'd be like, why are you rushing the barricade
at a Drake show?
Yeah, that's a good point.
You know what I mean?
That would be your mindset.
Like, what do you rush it when Marvin's room was playing?
Like, yeah.
Seriously.
But also I think Drake has this like different connectivity with his fans.
Like, I think people love Travis, but they view Travis is almost like a rock star.
And then I think that they view Drake as like a podcaster.
Because like Drake is so like open and emotional in the music
that like you feel like you really know about him.
You feel like you know about his relationships,
what he's going through, what his team is going through, et cetera.
Like Travis Scott is, I don't know nothing about this guy.
You know what I mean?
I know he dressed up in for Halloween.
And I know that he got Kylie pregnant twice.
But like I don't know like...
Oh, two kids.
I don't know his interpersonal feelings at all.
Like, what do you know?
I just know he's a superstar.
It's lit.
Yeah.
That's what I know.
Right?
He's a superstar.
He's a rock star.
He's a superstar who corporations love because he has mad endorsements.
Yeah.
No, no, no, 100%.
And he deserves a success.
I'm not saying he doesn't.
What I'm saying is like you're more willing to forgive your friend.
And I feel like people view like Drake almost as their friend.
Like they know his like emotional baggage.
Whereas a rock star, you're like, man, that'd be awesome.
I'd love to live that life with you.
But if you get fucked up, I'm okay with that because I've got no real connection.
Yeah.
And I mean, you know, yeah.
And I mean, listen.
I get everybody's point who said, like, you know,
Travis encourages this.
Yo, a lot of these artists encourage this.
I look at some of these festivals.
I think people are wild and turn up.
You know what I mean?
It just so happened that this one got a little too turn.
A little out of control.
A little too turned to where people died.
And that's sad and that's tragic.
You want to see people go crazy, man.
You want to see people jumping around.
Yeah, Merlin Manson and all.
I'm like, what type of the fucking crowds they have?
Everybody.
And what I don't want this to turn into
is an indictment of hip-hop as a whole.
You know what I mean?
I don't want this.
Do you think it's going there?
Feels like that a little bit.
It feels like that.
Like when I see the sheriff say things like,
which is wild because even though Travis Scott is a hip hop artist,
Travis Scott has one of the most diverse fan bases ever.
And by diverse white.
White.
You know what I mean?
Asians.
Like he has a very diverse fan base.
So I just feel like,
and a lot of these festivals are driven by the hip hop artists.
Like they're the ones headlining it.
Like Kendrick's headlining, I think.
Yeah, but I don't think there's an indictment on hip hop.
because I know that there's all these like, you know,
moshing and like rock concerts.
Like even a lot of like the mosh pit,
the thing you see in like Playboy Cardi concerts
and you see in and I guess some of Travis and stuff
is like, that's some rock and roll.
That's my point.
So when stuff like that happens at rock and roll concerts,
I don't ever, but I wasn't old enough to remember.
Maybe I wasn't paying attention.
I don't remember pro jam getting slender.
I just remember their beef with Tickamester.
Yeah.
I don't remember people pulling them from shit
and saying they didn't want them to perform.
I remember they said they didn't want to perform.
for a while, which makes sense.
You know, that's an emotionally draining thing.
You performed the concert and all these people died at your concert.
That's not what you do this for.
But I don't know, man.
I just want us all to like take a beat sometime and just sit back and look at things objectively.
People want immediate justice, man.
Word is born.
Yeah.
They don't want to take a second and figure it out.
Why are you thinking about why is he off Fortnite?
Yeah.
Why?
A game that actually has fighting on it and killings.
And everything else?
Yeah.
Why are you removing him from Fortnite?
Yeah.
What does that do?
What does that do?
Yeah.
Punish him?
Like, I don't know, man.
Does he make money off being on Fortnite?
I'm sure.
I have no idea, probably.
He does?
I'm sure.
Come on.
Gaming.
But, like, he has, like, a...
I know when he did that concert.
Like, people showed up to the concert and stuff like that.
Yeah, they probably gave him, like, a fee or whatever, do the concert.
I don't know.
I just think that those are those, like, I don't know the proper term, but like those fake
punishments.
You know what I mean?
like, go to ISS for the day.
You're all on Fortnite.
It's like, it ain't even about punishing him.
It's about like making you look good.
Word is both.
Like if your homie does something fucked up, you disavow.
Even I saw the statement, I think it was the, what's festival he's performing at?
Day and Night or something like that.
I saw them put out a statement and they read the statement like, you know, Travis Scott won't be performing at our concert.
The safety of our people is first informal.
Oh, cut out.
But listen, they worded the statement like they're the ones who told Travis not to perform.
Travis already said he wasn't going to perform at day and night.
He said he was too emotionally disgrunt.
So it's like, why?
Wasn't the day and night festival, Alex?
I'm not sure.
It was one of the festivals.
Let's make sure we get the festival right.
That's fucked up.
That's like, you didn't break up with me.
I broke over here.
Yeah.
Hating ass girls.
Is that it?
Let me make sure.
I want to be accurate.
Because, you know.
That makes sense.
Man, fuck accuracy, bro.
No, you got to be accurate.
No, day and night is fine.
We're not Kanye West, bro.
We don't have the luxury of not being accurate.
Yo, Kanye was on one, huh?
We have to be consistent.
Is that it?
Can you say...
No, it's not...
Yeah, day and night, Vegas festival.
Can you say who cut Kanye's hair,
who Kanye said cut his hair?
Because I can't say it,
but it's one of the funniest things about it.
Yeah.
I see the picture somebody.
I thought he said he cut it.
Now, he said his barber was Edward...
Cizzer hand.
Oh, no, no, he said that's his name.
What is it?
He said that's his name for him.
Oh, what is it?
His name is Edward Nigger Hand.
Yo, that is one of the funniest things
I've ever heard of my life.
Listen, Kanye was
is...
He was on one.
Top three most
entertaining.
But where was this Kanye?
What do you mean?
I don't know.
I miss this Kanye.
This has always been this Kanye.
He was funny.
No, you're looking at it
through a different lens now.
Talk to me.
You're not looking at it
through the lens of
this is the most genius person
I've ever met in my life.
You're appreciating Kanye
for just the entertainment value now.
Yes.
That's what it is.
I'm trying to think who else is like this.
It's Trump.
Like, you just got to let him go and enjoy.
Yeah.
The only difference between Trump
is Trump was president.
But other than that, I always said, if Trump wasn't president, he'd be the funniest man in the world.
Yeah.
You'd die laughing at Trump.
Yes.
And Kanye's the same way.
He's just entertaining.
Like, Kanye's, his whole, go, what did you think of the drink champs interview?
I just, first of all, shouts to drink champs.
Nori, DJ EFN, my guys.
I love their enthusiasm.
I was saying this on flagrant the other day.
Like, I think a lot of people, especially in hip-hop, have seen your success.
And they've tried to, like, model their interviewing style off of you.
you, right?
Speak on it more.
No, no, no, no.
You're right.
I mean, I can't say these things.
Okay, let me give you.
Let me do you some flowers, bro.
If I say these things, I got to shut, they tell me shut the fuck up, be humble.
Okay, let me talk.
Let me talk for you.
So, like, you at times can have like a confrontational, especially earlier,
confrontational, even combative, but it's kind of like who you are.
There's a part of you that is that.
And it creates this really interesting tension and release.
And there's these funny moments.
And it's masterful.
It's great.
It's great.
So other people are trying to do.
it and I feel like they're going, I just need a gotcha question.
That's all it is.
I just need whatever, right?
It's not authentic, right?
And I do think that it comes from an authentic place with you, and I think that that's why
it worked.
And I think there's also times in those interviews where people like start slamming you
and you're not actually fighting back.
It happened with me this week at Dr. Sanjay Gupta.
Yeah.
It's like, I just got questions.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Motherfuck is mad at me.
Like, it's funny, though, because you got some people mad at me, like, why are you
why are you pressing them so hard?
Yeah, yeah.
Why you don't do that to this person or that person?
It's like, I don't know.
Maybe I don't give a fuck about the issue like that.
This is something I care about.
So I'm asking questions.
Yeah.
So, like, that nature, I think, was really entertaining and we just enjoy it.
And I see people kind of copy it, but it comes off inauthentic.
It seems like they're just trying to catch a lick.
They're like, ooh, if I ask this fucked up question, that's going to go viral.
They call it a hard question.
Say what?
What's the hard question?
Exactly.
Like, they're just trying to find something.
Okay.
What I liked about the drink champs guys,
is it's, one, they're not trying to copy Charlemagne.
They're actually doing the opposite.
They're like really, like, enthusiastic and excited.
Yeah, it's a celebration.
But they'll still find ways to ask troubling stuff.
But they ask it almost in a way that you ask your boy, you're like,
bro, I got to ask you what's good with this, right?
And people know that because I think the other thing.
If you know Norrie, that's no.
You know Norrie.
And drink chats have been around for like seven years now.
It's authentic.
You're going to go in there.
On the Black Tech Network.
work no big deal, though.
Black Effect, I have a hard radio podcast.
It is what it is.
I love Norrie.
Me and Norrie been doing business for a long time.
People don't even realize.
And the reason I love Norrie, like when I was home unemployed, back in like 2010 living
with my mom, Norrie hit me up the host.
He had a mixtape coming out called Super Thug.
Yeah.
And I remember him tweeting like, y'all have always, you know what I mean, been ahead of
the curve, you know, when it comes to talent.
I'm paraphrasing him.
He was like, I've always been ahead of the curve when it comes to talent.
That's why back in the day, I didn't want to do a song with you.
I don't know disrespect.
I wanted to do a song with Lil Wayne.
And he was like, so that's why I'm getting
Charlamagne to host my mixtape.
He said this on Twitter.
I was trying to actually find that tweet the other day
because when you're home, living at home with your mom,
that means a lot.
Catch the unemployment checks.
You're like, damn, like, this dude sees me, right?
And that's Norrie.
Yeah.
That's N-O-R-E.
Like, I don't got, Norrie.
The hip-hop legend to me.
I think a lot of younger people listening right now
don't realize how massive Nori was.
Oh, come, man.
There was a time where, what was it on?
What, what, what, what, that whole,
But before that, CNN, we was in-Copone and Orier.
We was in my man, Jarrell house.
But that wasn't regional?
That wasn't a New York thing?
Like, we know who mastered they were in New York.
We was in Monk's Corner.
God bless the day.
My man Jarrell, Garnett, International A. Rizzler.
We used to call the place Queensbridge.
Like, we used to call Sluke to Miss Jimmy Sue.
We used to call Ms. Jimmy Sue.
Left frack.
He was in there listening to Mobb, CNN, all of those guys.
Nature.
I don't even know if nature was from Queens.
But anybody that was in that circle,
Nas, we was listening to him.
So we was all over CNN back then.
N-O-R-E solo album.
So whenever I see Nauri, that's the kind of reverence I have for him.
Like, yo, you was a part of my childhood.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was wild when you think we was, like, close to the same age.
Yeah.
Like, he's only a couple years older than me.
You know what I mean?
But it's like, I've always had that reverence for Doory.
But so him saying that those years ago and then us going on to, like,
me executive producing the TV show he had on the run,
eating to, you know, partnering, you know,
with him to do to be on the Black Effect.
you know, podcast network.
Like me and Norrie do a lot of great business together.
And we'll continue to do great business together.
He's a great human.
So I love the success.
What did you think about the interview, though?
Oh, it was highly entertaining.
But it's just like Kanye has the luxury of being one of the most inconsistent
individuals on the planet and nobody gives a fuck.
And call it Kanye.
Why do you think that is?
I don't know.
Van said that to me.
Van told me that when we was talking about it this weekend,
Van was like, I've told you this before, which he has.
you have a problem with consistency.
Meaning.
Because I strive to be consistent.
And if I'm not consistent,
I got to tell you why I don't feel this way anymore.
Kanye will start off an interview,
which he did on Drink Champs,
talking about, you know, how bad, you know, capitalism is
and, you know, classism.
We got to get rid of classism and this and that.
But then an hour later,
I text everybody in this group chat
and told him I'm the richest person in this group chat.
You keep referencing.
that you're worth $9 billion over and over and over.
But you're telling people not to get caught up in capitalism.
You're telling people, you know.
Because they ain't got it.
How did he start the interview of classism?
That's all he said, you can't play my game.
Yes.
But my thing, you're telling people not to get caught up in classism,
but all you do is name drop people of this elite status.
And nobody gives the fuck.
You know what I think that like we often harp on.
We harp on consistency when the reality is people harp on entertainment.
That's all it is.
People want to be entertained, bro.
Don't matter what you say.
Don't matter.
As long as it's funny or interesting.
And here we are fighting toot the nail to be consistent and say the right thing.
Why?
Just say the funniest thing.
Why?
It gets you out of trouble and everything.
What did he do?
He said Big Sean.
What did he say?
Signed him.
Big Sean was the worst mistake of my life.
Yet you owe Big Sean like millions of dollars.
But there's been worse mistakes, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it can't be signing big shot
Why are you saying that about that man?
Like if he's your worst mistake
Give him back all the money that you made from him
Yeah
Yeah
Because you say, Big Sean says you owe him money
Which I think was a deflection in the interview
I think it was a deflection like
Before we even get to any Big Sean questions
Let me give you this
The chew on
You know what I mean
Which is I don't like Big Sean
He didn't even give a reason
No he did because he didn't support him
Politically.
So what?
He said he talked down the bottom
So what?
Now look, I know this man's mama, Kanye said,
I've changed this man's family,
and both John Legend and Big Sean
when I ran for office got used quick
by the Democrats to come at their boy
that actually changed their life
and that's some sellout shit
and I don't rock with neither of them
and I need my apologies.
I'd never heard Big Sean come at Kanye
for his take on Trump.
Only thing I've ever heard Big Sean say is Kanye
owe me some money.
John Legend definitely
had some things to say about
Kanye's Trump affiliation. That was the other inconsistent thing. You can't say that about Big Sean
and John Legend and me. He said, you know, when Joe Biden was on Breakfast Club and he said the whole
you ain't black thing, he said, what does that show you? That shows you how close Charleney and Biden are, right?
And the conversations they have off air. That was the first and only time I've ever had a conversation
with Joe Biden. Have you spoken to Biden since? No. Didn't speak to him before. I haven't
spoken to him since. But my point with that is... You have his number? No.
VP Harris, yes.
You could text her?
I used to could have.
Not no more.
They switched up.
I've heard from her since she's been VP, though.
Can we call that number right now and just see who picks up?
Nah.
You know, it's a crazy part is I did text it one day and you get back.
Just call her, bro.
You get back like this crazy secret service.
This number has been intercepted by the government message.
No.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like one of these, like, you've never seen an error message like that in your life ever.
What did it say?
Wow, go on.
No, it said something like this number has been intercepted by whatever official.
It was like a real official message to let you know, like, don't text this shit no more.
Wow.
Yeah.
That'd be funny as you followed up like, nah, I'm just playing.
What's up?
My point with that is Kanye was you was in the Oval Office with a MAGA hat on literally, not figuratively.
Yeah.
Literally calling Donald Trump daddy.
Daddy.
Yikes.
Literally saying, can I get a hug?
literally saying that this man makes you feel like Superman.
So much so to the point that Trump was uncomfortable,
Trump was like, no, no, no, no, you don't have to do that.
Like, it was almost like, no, no, no, I don't need no head, bro.
Like, back up, you know what I mean?
Like, wow.
Like, no, but it was like that.
Wow.
But look like, but how can you say anything about somebody being too close to politicians?
But my point is, because everybody's going to say I'm making this about me,
this has nothing to do with me.
It's just the inconsistency.
and nobody gives the shit.
He's really out of control.
Yeah, but he's so entertaining.
He's entertaining.
It doesn't matter, bro.
It doesn't matter.
Nobody cares about the truth.
We don't want anything but entertainment.
That's the thing that we got to.
We just got to respect that about each other right now.
And I don't think it's something we want to admit, but that is a luxury of the first world.
If you live in the third world, entertainment isn't as important because you need food and water
and shelter.
You know what I mean?
You need some safety, some security.
Those things are important, right?
First world, we protect.
tend to care about all these other things.
But at the end of the day,
we just want to watch Dr. Umar Johnson.
That's right.
Right?
It doesn't, like, I shouldn't love Dr. Umar.
I love him.
I love,
because my life is so good,
I can afford to love him.
And it's the same thing with yay.
I'm rooting for the school.
You know, I donate every month.
Did Dr. Umar's school?
I donate every month.
I donate every month.
Say what?
How much?
I can't tell you.
Okay, okay.
I want to do that too.
Nobody, you're right.
Nobody cares about the truth
and the lies more entertaining.
Kanye wasn't entertaining.
I've donated $100,000 to his school.
You're a liar.
Yeah.
I don't believe you.
I don't believe you.
You're entertaining us right now.
Say what?
You're entertaining us right now.
Hey, what does matter?
That's going to be the headline.
Andrew Scho says he donated $100,000.
I donated $100,000 to Dr.
Umar Johnson's school.
My brother.
I am.
He said at a million, I get to say the end word three times.
That's what he said.
He said that not me.
He said that was hard.
How many punches did you get?
He said that, not me.
And I said, I don't want it.
I said, I don't want it.
I want you to keep the money.
And I want you to educate the young boys.
Man, that would be so hilarious if Dr. Umar literally told you that.
Dr. Umar's, that's his selling point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You get to a million.
You can say that word, free.
What is you three?
Three.
You get three.
You get three.
So use them wisely.
Use them.
And I just say one true to that James song.
I'm done.
Oh, my God.
Make one a bad for.
Yeah, but nobody cares, man.
Kanye is wildly entertaining.
And then, listen, Kanye, Kanye, he does some good things.
He does some great things.
You know what I mean?
He's done some great things and we'll continue to do great things,
but he is just one of the most inconsistent people ever.
And you know what, Candace Owen says some shit that's true.
What Candace Owen say?
Everybody that Kanye popped shit to on that drink champs interview,
he's gonna eventually apologize.
He is the epitome of pop shit, you pop shit apologize,
niggas just ass kiss.
He is the epitome of it.
Everyone gonna be on his stage.
Every single one.
Like when Big Sean said he saw him a few weeks,
ago he didn't say none of that.
Candace was saying it in reference to
when he threw Candace under the bus on
Twitter. I forgot what the whole story was, but Candace
was like, you know, that's what he did publicly
but privately was a different story. That's who
he is. Like, that's why
it was so interesting to see him
you know, sitting there reading off the phone with
Jake, for instance, sweet. Now,
he looked kidnapped. He looked
kidnapped, bro. And listen, I love to... That was a hostage
situation. I love the peace. I love
to see him and Drake make peace. I'd rather see it...
That's great music. I'd rather see them at a verses than a
concert, though. But what is the Larry Hoover thing? They're trying to get Larry Hoover out of jail.
Larry Hoover's still alive? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Larry Hoover's still locked up.
They're trying to get Larry Hoover out of jail because, I mean, Larry Hoover's done a lot of great
things in the community and, you know, they feel like he's somebody that can restore a lot of
order to the city of Chicago, which he probably can, you know what I mean? Because people
look up to somebody like Larry Hoover. He's a quadruple OG. I actually do want to talk to Larry
Hoover's son about that. I'm going to hit Jay Prince about that. Like, I would love to have,
you know, Larry Hoover's son on one of the platforms and just, you know, you know,
know, have that conversation about, you know, why, why they want Larry Hoover home so bad?
Because I'm sure he could explain it way more than I could.
I mean, other than that being his father, you know what I mean?
He wanted his father to see his grandkids, but there's a lot of street political reasons that they would want him home.
And I think they're right.
I think guys like Larry Hoover, guys like Big Meach, who these brothers in the street, you know,
look up to for what they did in the street.
These brothers have been in jail.
They paid their deaths of society.
They're different people.
Now, they're different humans.
Man, they can come out here and encourage so many brothers to take a different route.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah, I'm all for it.
But watching him in that video with Jay Prince reading off the phone.
Fire.
hilarious.
He didn't look like a free thinker to me.
No, it looked like he was maybe forced to be there.
That's right.
So if you're coming from the heart with something.
It's the industry.
If you're trying to squash some beef and come from the heart with bringing people together, shouldn't it just come from the heart?
Yeah.
I will say this, though.
I ever get canceled and I need to publicly apologize, I want Jay Prince to be next to me when I do it.
That is the true. I don't care what I'm getting canceled for, but Jay Prince needs to be next to me when I do it.
I need to meet that, man.
Man, Jay Prince, you're invited to any one of my shows.
When you do youth, you should tell Jay Prince, pull up.
I'm actually performing at Dr. and Moore School in the inaugurate, the first, the opening day I'm performing at the school.
That's where I'm filming my special.
Yeah.
I got the big check.
So it would be awesome as Jay Prince.
But seriously, I mean it, when I did the show of Houston.
If you hold up the big check and where it says four, it says to say N-word.
Whoa.
Wow.
Dr.
Umar, I love Dr. Humar, bro.
Dr. Omar.
Next time you in Houston, you shouldn't invite Jay Prince out.
Jay Prince is the one of a nine individual.
I want him to come to the show in Houston.
But I didn't know how to connect directly to him.
I hit you for you.
All right.
That's one.
Jay's a great brother.
Ain't nothing like being on the receiving end of a Jay
and sold G-Call.
Really?
That's right.
You've got a couple of those, right?
Put it like this.
I understood what Kanye was going to when he was like.
Firm.
I understood what Kanye was going to do in that moment.
You know what I mean?
I understood what Kanye was going through.
You know, it's funny, though.
I like how Jay waited for Kanye to disrespect Drake to do something.
Like, Kanye was running for president.
Kanye would say, make America great again.
Like, Jay didn't sit him down and make him apologize and nothing.
He goes that Drake a little bit.
It's like, we might need to have a company.
But no, no, no, no, it's bigger than a drink.
Because I'll tell you something, when Kanye did this whole Oval Office thing,
I remember Jay Prince posting something on Instagram and Jay Prince was talking about how, you know,
I forgot how he worded it, but he was like, regardless of what you think of his antics,
the fact he stood in front of the president and said, we need to free Larry Hoover, was big for him,
because Larry Hoover's, that's Jay Prince guy.
Oh, I don't know that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Jay Prince guy.
So that's a cause that's near and dare to his heart.
So it's just like anything else, when you see somebody standing in front of a high-and-selected
official in the land.
Yeah.
And they're talking about a cause that's near and dear to your heart.
You're going to salute him as you should.
Like, I don't understand why we can't have nuance.
Why we can't be objective about things?
Yeah, Kanye probably said a whole bunch of things you don't agree with.
Yeah.
But if you said one thing that you agree with, why can't you just give him props on that?
Yeah.
And keep it moving.
So it's like, yeah.
I mean, in that situation, he was absolutely 100% correct, you know, and doing what he,
and doing what he was doing.
Yeah, we got to get Jay Prince on a pod.
Can we get him on a pod?
Jay Prince would definitely do the pod.
That would be fire.
Jay Prince.
He's done pods before.
He would do the pot.
This is your invitation, sir.
Please come on the podcast, spit some game.
Sluke to my guy, Jay Prince, man.
What else we got?
You want to pay some bills and come back?
Yeah, let's do it.
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The announcements are a very important part of what we do in church.
All right, let's do some church announcements.
What you got, Sholtsi?
Infamous tour. We're in Chicago this weekend, Chicago Theater. We had a second show. A few tickets left in that second show. Go get that Madison as well.
And then we're adding new shows, those going to, oh, Radio City Music Call, first show sold out.
We added a second show.
Go get those tickets.
That's at DeAndrashoulds.com.
And then Toronto, Toronto, Toronto, Toronto.
We had a show booked in March at the Massey Hall, the legendary Massey Hall.
And...
Drake said no.
You know who said no?
The venue.
Really?
The venue, after the...
the whole Chappelle thing. The venue
said they got a new board and
they need to be very selective
with the people that they
have performed at the venue and they don't
want to offend people. Fuck that pussy shit.
You should feel good about that for real.
Ah, fuck all that.
You should feel good about that, bro. They said
they watched a Netflix special or something like that and there
were some questionable things there and I was like, the Netflix
special. I was like, yo, don't
listen to Flagrant too. Don't listen
Flagrant. Please don't subscribe to that
Patreon. Don't not do it.
So instead of canceling the show, I said, fuck it.
Let's, or canceling the date.
I said, fuck it.
Let's go bigger.
Let's go.
We're going to do Meridian Hall.
We're going to do, I think it's March 5th.
Theandruschols.com.
Tickets go on sale Friday in the morning, 10 a.m.
A few other venues go on sale as well.
In Toronto?
That's in Toronto.
How big is Meridian Hall?
I think it's 3,500 or something like that.
Okay.
Okay.
You got that.
You got that.
I'm on the tour to.
Oh, man.
We're going to go until.
basically Radio City's April 16th.
Oh, so we got time.
I got it.
And then we have Atlantic City after that.
And then...
Special time.
Well, special's already in the books.
So now we got to...
We're just editing special now.
And then ideally, I have enough new material by then that we could drop the special.
What special dropping?
Hit Europe.
I don't know.
I haven't figured the date yet.
It just needs to be...
Everything needs to be right.
All right. Everything need to be right.
Wax, you got any charge of us?
Yes, sir.
Go to whoswax.net.
Go get your gummies, man.
I got a subscription, too.
You get $100.
You get $10 gumbies, you know, free shipment.
We got bullying the beast.
Yeah, make sure you guys go see that on every Wednesday.
You know what I'm saying?
Patreon on Mondays.
My Whose Wax is in stores.
Is in my new stores.
I appreciate Herb and Joy in Fresno,
Purple Star in Fresno.
Elevated in South Francisco.
And Dr. Greentham in LA.
Appreciate you.
y'all, man. Y'all keep on getting these dispensaries.
Keep grabbing out who's wax. Y'all go get that.
Word. Mine is always simple. Go to black effect.
com and subscribe to all the podcasts on the Black Effect Podcast Network.
Make sure you watch The God's Honest Truth.
Yeah!
Every Friday night at 10 p.m. on Comedy Central.
Salute to everybody that's been screaming on Paramount Plus.
We've been killing on Paramount Plus.
We're always trending on Paramount Plus.
And make sure you go to the merch store, man.
get you some of this good merch.
What size you wear, Shultz?
Oh, you know, I got all these.
You did?
Yeah, you sent me a package.
I did?
Yeah, along with like some Charleston Chew and shit.
Okay.
You did.
I hate you.
Can I get one?
Yeah, you know me.
I want one of those.
You want a decrackify America shirt?
This is a decrackify America shirt.
I like the G one.
My man, Ed's sharing wanted one.
Ed's going to be on this week's episode, by the way.
Oh, legend.
Yeah, Ed's going to be on this week's episode of the God's Honest Truth.
And Soldier Boy.
Soldier Boy is going to be on this Friday.
as well. So tune in 10 p.m. on Comedy Central, make sure you scream on Paramount Plus. You know, Ed
Watch is brilliant. It is religiously. Really? Oh my God. Ed, what up, man? I'm a big fan, dude.
You know, I didn't tell you that story. Appreciate you. Where I went to Ed, uh, Ed sharing concert twice
at the garden the same week. No. And, uh, I went the first time, because I'm a huge fan.
When I was dating a girl at the time, we went. She was a big fan. Two different dates.
Right. Yeah, yeah. And then he was doing like three shows there. And his shows are unbelievable. It was
just him.
Like he creates this.
Unbelievable.
It's crazy.
And like he has these loop pedal so he can create all the different sounds that he needs to create the song.
So I go the first time.
And there's a lot of like younger, you know, teens and that kind of stuff.
So I'm about to go for the second time of the week.
And I was like a little bit embarrassed.
I'm like, yeah, I'm a fucking 30-something year old dude.
Like I can't go.
So I wore my Knicks jacket.
Right?
In case someone was like, yo, Sheltz, what you doing here?
I thought it was a game tonight.
I thought it was a game.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So I go and I sit in a section and we're up close because I'm a fan, right?
Like, we're like 12th row or something like that.
And you got a stunt for another new chick.
No.
It's all the same people that was there two nights before.
You had two different girls with you.
No, no, no.
I'm taking the same girl.
But all people are obsessed with him like the fucking Rolling Stones.
So they go to every concert while he's there.
So I'm trying to be incognito in my Knicks jacket.
But all the girls, these like teenagers are like, oh, I know you from Girl Co.
you're back again.
You're back again?
Your second time.
So I couldn't even cap like I wasn't a super fan
because they saw me two days earlier.
I'm a ginger.
I'm a jing, bro.
Is that the name is joint?
What do you mean?
That's not the name is team?
No.
Oh,
what is it?
I don't know.
The jingges?
I don't think you could say it with a hard R, dog.
I think you got to say ginger.
Like, I don't, I don't know if you can do that, bro.
My ginger.
My ginger.
Yo, yo, yo, chill, fam.
Like, you don't know their struggle.
know their life.
Come on, dude.
Ginger.
You'll tell you something about Ed Shearing.
Yeah.
Ed Shearing is one of the pure souls
ever met in my life.
Word.
Just a great human.
Like, you know who he is.
Like, that is wild, right?
Unbelievable.
Like, do you know your Ed Shearing?
Do you know who you are, bro?
And that's my guy.
Like, that's my guy.
Like, I love that dude, man.
He's a good, pure soul.
And you be around Ed sometimes
and things come out of his mouth
and you be like, who the fuck are you, bro?
Yeah.
Like, we had him on breakfast club.
this week and he, he, he was, we was talking about, he was saying how you don't feel like he's
accepted in the pop world. Yeah. But just conversations we've had before, right? And, but he,
he's a young, you know, uh, English dude. So, of course, hip hop culture has been his culture.
I mean, he's all, he's in the all genres of music, but he loves hip hop culture. Yeah.
So I remember, like, this was some years ago, man, we might have been in the UK. This might
have been when we stayed at his crib, but he was, um, he said, uh, we was, we was drunk because,
you know, he's got a, he's got a pub on his estate. Yeah, though.
a pub.
Okay.
We got,
I got a bar in my house.
Yeah,
he's got a whole pub
that you have to like,
yeah,
put on clothes and shoes
to go out to,
right?
Yeah, yeah.
So we're in the pub and,
um,
he just,
I don't know how we even got on the subject.
He started rapping gang star
right where you stand,
verbatim.
Wow.
And I remember just looking at him like,
the fuck just happened.
All the words?
Not all.
I mean,
yeah, pretty much.
Yeah, yeah,
but he,
verbatim.
Like, right?
And De Jada kiss.
parts and the guru parts. No, he didn't say the N-word.
That's all I wanted to know.
He didn't say the N-word. Real tough.
Hey, if you want to say the N-word,
donations.
Do Dr. Um-huh?
Donations. Donations. Donations. Donations.
Donations. Okay.
I'm just saying, Ed, there's a way.
Frederick Douglass, Marcus Garvey.
But he wrapped it verbatim. And ever since then, I just was like,
it was not only to do a really love hip-hop, he's just a different type of dude.
who embraces any and everybody.
That's all he cares about.
Are you a good person or not?
And you know where he gets it from?
His parents.
His upbringing.
You see the upbringing.
Yeah, yeah.
You see the people that he has around him.
And the fact, he still lives in his hometown that he grew up in.
I'm telling you, man, staying grounded as a motherfucker, yo.
Yeah.
And he's definitely one of the best at it.
It comes across, like, he really loves music.
That's it?
You know, like, I think there's a lot of people that are like,
they're not really students of the game that they have chosen.
to exist within, and, like, they could get exposed.
But there are people who are just obsessed.
Like, they're basketball players who are obsessed with basketball.
They watch every game.
They watch the old games.
They know the vats.
They just know everything.
And he's always struck me as a guy who's, like, obsessed with music.
He is.
No, he is.
I thought he just had a bunch of just talent.
He does.
That too, though.
So it's easy to him.
Like, Iverson, is I'm saying?
Yeah.
No, that's very true.
That he's like, he just ooze his talent.
It's like, God put all that talent in this red-ha
kid from the UK.
That's why he's just so humble.
Like, this is my life.
That's it.
Writing.
I had to work hard for this.
Playing the guitar and encouragement from his parents.
Like he said when he was young, he told his dad,
I'm going to do a song with him in him one day.
And the dad was like, yes, you are.
Yes, you will.
That's all the kid needs.
That's what my parents were like.
My parents never said I wasn't going to do anything.
And I'd say the craziest things.
They're like, yeah, yeah, that sounds good.
You think it's the UK thing, ain't your people from?
Oh, my mom's from the UK.
But honestly, the culture.
the culture in the UK is not like that usually.
Really?
It's, hey, don't be too,
don't try to be too big.
You know, don't be better than who you are.
You know, don't better than anybody else here.
I think that's why my mom left.
You know, she grew up, you know,
porn and Scotland, and then she left
to kind of get away with that
so that she could actually become herself,
she could spread her wings.
She had to come to America,
a place where that was rewarded.
Like, you have big dreams here in America?
People love that shit.
It's inspiring to hear those stories.
But if you come from certain communities,
especially like working class communities,
I'm sure it exists here too.
They look at you like,
hey, do you think you're better than us?
Yeah.
You're trying to leave this?
Yeah, no, that's true.
I see a lot of that.
What you say?
The total opposite.
Like, you ain't going to be nothing.
It's like, oh, I'm going to prove it to you.
Oh, that's because you was kidnapping people.
Yeah, you shouldn't be kidnapping.
That's different.
It makes sense a little bit.
No, that's different.
My dad used to tell me I wasn't going to be shit either.
He probably was right.
But you could tell me if I didn't change my ways.
Then you weren't going to be shit.
Yeah, exactly.
I already left before.
you can say that.
Yeah.
That's why I don't believe.
Like, you know how like every motherfucker that makes it
has this story about some teacher that was like,
you're never going to do anything with your life?
It's like, there like that, yo.
No.
I had a lot of those, too.
I don't know what you talked about.
They said to you.
They said to a child.
They said to a child, you're going to be nothing.
Context, though.
I told my mom, I'm not even going to be nothing,
so just let them go through school.
Context though.
Yeah, context is we were the bad kids in school.
Yeah, I was a bad kid too.
I was in night school.
I was a bad kid, too, but these teachers,
just knew. No, I had to, I had, you know, to your point, I did have teachers like, I got
a salute Ms. Brevard. I love Ms. Nicole Bavard. You know, Ms. Nicole Bavard. She was actually
a librarian at Berkeley High School. And she used to always tell me I was wasting whatever
talent she saw in me at the time. She was like, you're too smart for this shit. But that's
different than you're never going to make it. No, but no, I'm saying she was one that was saying
the opposite of what the other motherfuckers were saying. The other motherfuckers was like, you're going to
jail. Yeah, but that's, you might be in jail. You might be in jail. You might as
You might go to jail and you did.
They were right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, they meant like long prison time.
It was like, you're going to end up in dead.
And by the way, they weren't wrong.
Yeah.
Based off the lifestyle I was living.
They weren't wrong.
They had to talk to us like that.
I get it.
My dad was like that.
My dad was like, I remember my dad telling my mom, man, let's just kill him and get the insurance money.
Because he's going to die anyway.
He bothered.
I took him to do.
That's fire.
That's fire, then.
No, that's fire, dude.
I like that.
I'm serious, though.
Let's just kill him and get the insurance.
money because he's going to die anyway.
If you're going to die anyway, they could just put life insurance on you and then got collected
the same.
But that's what it was, though.
It was literally like the life I was living.
Reckless.
They was like, he's going to end up in jail.
See the two ways out of that.
He's going to end up dead anyway.
Yeah.
So fuck him.
Yeah.
I, you know, moms aren't usually like that.
No, moms always try to hold that last time.
No, you got to be really bad for the mom.
That's right.
I always tell people that when you see a mom cut somebody off, boy, that person is shit.
You took her bingo money, but nobody, but her bingo money.
You made her look bad.
batter for her friends.
That's all you can't do.
Here's the thing, though,
it's like that context
is never put in the story.
It looks like it was just
this innocent kid going to school
and then there was this social studies teacher
who is like, you know what?
You're never going to be anything.
You're never going to make it.
It's like, Kat, stop it.
You were fucking around the school,
driving this poor teacher crazy
while she tried to teach you some shit
and then she was like, fuck you too.
You keep doing this shit,
you're never going to be nothing.
And you know what?
You stopped doing that shit
and then you ended up being something
so that teacher was right.
I knew I was a terror.
And I was a terror
because I was, everything I did was mental.
It wasn't like the kids, like, wax was beating people up.
You know what I mean?
I was putting boogers and do-doing stuff on people.
That's physical stuff, though.
I couldn't do that.
Yeah, yeah.
But you were doing, like, mental torture.
Mental.
Yeah, I could have been a cold leader, bro.
You think?
Yeah, easily, bro.
Easily.
That's what I remember a assistant principal I had named Miss,
Miss Sadie Brown said that one time.
She was like, just got to see, he could just make people do things.
He just manipulates people in the doing things.
Like, I remember him saying that.
Years and years ago.
in Columbia.
When I lived in Columbia,
you told a bunch of people
to text in my phone.
I called my phone
and say wax is nasty.
It never happened.
Broke my phone broke, bro.
How?
Where did I do that?
Where did I get a handle
on all these people?
I don't even know.
That's what I'm saying?
What the fuck are you doing?
Like, how the fuck you get all these people
to call my phone and say wax is nasty?
I was living in Colombia.
I don't remember it.
Not how long ago that was?
I don't recall.
Yeah, my phone, I remember that shit.
I don't recall.
Back then it was just stupid.
We just used to do stupid shit.
That's really what it boils down to.
Like when you really think about my life
or just our lives in general, our lives,
play too much.
Doing stupid shit.
I just stopped doing stupid shit for no reason.
And by the way, I haven't.
I still do stupid shit for no reason.
It's this day.
Show him they think he got me on things
and I just don't even tell him
that I didn't get God and thank God
because he's just that crazy.
Like what?
I'm not telling you.
I'm not going to tell you.
Because you think you got me.
Oh, man.
You guys just let him think he got to death.
I did that at the TV studio the other day.
The other day, right?
We sitting in the writer's room.
And Rachel, our show runner, Rachel was doing something.
And one of the writers comes back, my man, Dre.
Drey's like, yo, Rachel says she's going to be here in 10 minutes.
I'm like, yo, let's all just leave.
Let's just all go to a whole other part of the building.
So when she comes back, she don't see us for no reason, right?
I'm sure.
So my dumb ass, I don't really know the daily show building like that.
So I'm like, where can we go?
So we go down these steps, we end up locked out of someplace.
Then we end up in the COVID testing center, right?
Then we all finally end up back into the lounge area, club reparations.
When I'm sitting there, it was like one of those times where you playing hide and seek.
Club what?
We got a club in there called club reparations.
That's the same.
Alex seen it.
Yeah, it's fine.
So we're in there.
You know it's one of those things that are like, you go to play hide and seek,
but the person don't never come look for you.
You're like, damn.
So I'm sitting there, right?
And I'm like, yo, she texting anybody, yo?
Everybody Wi-Fi?
working in shit.
So I finally, I text her out like,
you need to really come down here right now.
We're having a problem.
Nothing.
Rachel been working.
She knows me for 10 years.
She's like, this is not a time for you to try to be funny.
I'm really in the middle of something.
So if this is serious, you need to really let me know.
So I'm like, do I cash in the I'm serious card for this bitch?
Not this one.
Not this one.
This is the setup.
This is set up.
Because now when you do cash it in, it's going to be real good.
Yeah, this is just the jab.
That's right. That's right. So I'm telling the room like,
I'm not going to tell her we're playing, man.
I say, you really think she's playing anything? He thinks she's on us, right?
Still don't know if she was on us or not.
Yeah. I just know she didn't fall off my little hiding seat game.
But why you thought you had to play it out?
I don't know. I just for the thrill.
What's wrong with us, yeah?
I don't know. Why are we playing hide and seek?
You're 40-something years old playing hide and seek, bro.
And this girl got nothing to do with this.
She's like, I'm not playing with y'all.
For the thrill.
I was with a thrill, man.
I was with Dahlia with the Target and a lady ass.
I was like, what is that stuff that lotion that you said you have to get?
And I was like, it's Vagicil.
Oh, Vagicill.
You know what the Vagicil is that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And she's looking around, like, the people looking around like, it's over there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I ain't a lot.
I like doing that shit.
We almost got Naila arrested.
For what?
I mean, because we was home.
We was in Charleston.
So hit one of my dudes like, yo, we're going to be at this restaurant, right?
walking here and act like you smell weed
and tell her she's under a breakfast.
So we're sitting in the restaurant.
Officer walks in.
Officer walks in.
Office is like, hey, I talk to y'all too for a minute.
We observed you.
It was me a gnarla.
Smoking weed.
Was any of y'all smoking weed?
No, no, he said, is anyone of y'all in that white truck?
I smelled weed coming out that white truck.
And I was like, yeah.
For no reason.
Why you say, yeah, Nile?
And then the cop asked me, like, was you with her in that white truck?
I said, no, I wasn't in it.
She's looking at me like.
Crazy.
Man, if you just saw the look of defeat on Nile's face.
She wasn't right on me so bad.
I'm looking at her like, you better shut up.
I wasn't with you.
Like, just gone.
She held it together.
She held it together, but I couldn't.
So the officer's like, could you come with me?
Man, if you just saw the way she got up,
you'd have thought she got booed at the garden, bro.
So I lost it.
If I'd have just held off for five more seconds
and let him put them handcuffs on.
Oh, my.
That's fucking amazing.
That's fucked up.
For no reason.
The moral of the story, man.
Thank God they ain't get me
because I probably would have pushed the cop
because I was dirty.
Yeah.
They got trying to get the fuck out of it.
Oh, you wasn't in on the joke?
Hey, that ain't telling me shit.
They were supposed to get me.
Oh, I should have really let it ride, man.
Wow.
Wow.
I did tell him you were not.
It was dangerous.
Oh, no.
That's dangerous.
That's dangerous.
You're right.
I did, I said it's waxing the young lady with him.
I did say that.
Yo.
That's right.
In the country, you know what I'm in the country?
You know what I'm in the country, bro.
Come on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do me like that?
Yeah, that was very dumb, dude.
That was very dumb, dude.
Bro, we'd be getting people pulled over.
I know you ain't talking.
Him and Potter used to pretend to be cops.
They used to have it on the black jackets with the shades and the little stupid shit
around their neck, the badge,
with hats on, hopping out on people.
It was still fun, though.
Actually, it was fun.
Putting people on the hood of the car,
searching.
But that's good, though.
I used to pull everybody, yo.
Shut up, real fast.
Click.
Sit up.
Come there.
Yo, them nights used to be so crazy.
I remember the first time I saw y'all do that shit.
I'm like, yo, what the fuck is wrong?
When you get the real drunk person,
is really drunk that's come out of the club by the dude.
I was saving lives.
Yeah, yeah.
I would save a lies because if I spook you before you get in the car
doing a DUI, you ain't going to do this shit.
Bro, random Monday nights, bro.
I was going after the DUI guy.
You were saving a lot.
I'd be standing in front of the spot and see these two pull up
and they would jump out with the Jackson song in the bath.
Hey, get up this car.
You, yeah, you're, motherfuckerskin was doing it.
You got to put the badge real fast.
All right, get on it.
I got a great technique too.
How many times I got to put a handker?
I got the greatest technique in the world.
Oh, my God.
What the fuck was wrong with us, yo?
Yeah, it was dumb.
Oh, my God, man.
If you asked me to get you out of class, never mind.
Yeah, that was dumb.
No, it was so stupid to be young and dumb again.
Yeah.
People would not want to do it.
Because they had do-doo on the knob.
Nobody wanted to touch the knob.
The dude used to put doodoo on the door knob, do-do on the railing and shit.
Everybody was stuck in the classroom.
Nobody could get out.
But then hit the fire alone.
So people rushing out of the class,
they got to grab the dogs.
They got to crack the wrist.
Dude, it was great.
I mean, it did have fun times.
That was some dumb shit to do.
But it was funny.
Yeah.
You got to let people crow, bro.
Do we ever really?
No.
I don't think we do.
I think you evolve.
I don't want to grow.
If I could lock somebody in the room right now
but dude at the doorknop
and nobody can only open from the inside,
I might do it right now.
I got to stop it, man.
I got to do stuff like that to my kids, man.
And you don't realize you might be traumatizing them.
Oh, yeah.
No, prank your kids.
I think that's good.
Oh, my God.
Yo, I had this sting mask over the pandemic.
You know, sting the rest of the old thing with the white, the white face paint.
I got my whole family.
I was like, I know what time is nighttime, right?
I know what time is bedtime, right?
Do you know what time is nighttime?
I think I do.
Hey, I'm different to most people.
I know when it's nighttime, man.
I know what time.
I know.
I know when it's dark.
I know it's dark.
I know it's going to bed.
I know bedtime.
I know that time.
I know bad time.
I'm smart.
It's dark outside of nighttime.
It's like outside of daytime.
Oh, my God.
You're making somebody right now.
I went upstairs first, right?
I went up stairs first, right?
I'm in the bathroom.
I put this thing mask on.
I sit in the yoga position
in the middle of my two youngest children's room, right?
Lights off and everything.
Come on.
So my wife, the youngest, and my second youngest,
all come in the room at the same time.
And it was like a half of delayed reaction.
And everybody ran out.
And my youngest was the last one.
No.
Fucked up.
No.
She was the last one.
She was like, ah!
Man, I had to do so much consoling that.
night with the joy that bought me.
The joy.
What they say when you took it off?
It was just like, what the fuck?
My wife was like, what's wrong with you, yo?
My wife and she knew how I get down.
The kids is like, what the, what is your problem?
Throw that away.
Get rid of that mad.
For how long as you can't sleep at night
and all that's seeing that shit, man.
Oh my God.
No, I think you got to prank.
I never was scared of the boogey man.
I always had the rat.
The rat.
A mouse or something that I ran past.
I was scared.
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All right, shit you won't care about next week.
What did we miss over the past couple of live?
weeks. What we got there.
Boosie mad at
me? Boosie wasn't really mad at me.
What was that Boosie video? Because it looked like
they were filming that. It didn't look like it was
No, there was a boom mic.
I thought it was a sketch. I thought it was a movie. I thought it was a movie.
Probably shooting a movie.
There was a boom mic. It was literally holding a mic like
that. So they were trying to capture the audio.
What else we got? Oh,
click on that one. Study claims,
affairs, improve marriages. I'm going to
tell you why this is a great conversation.
We had last week on
the God's Honest Truth, we had Shan
Boodram. You ever heard of Shan Boodram?
She is a relationship.
I watched the clip. Yeah. She's in a
lot of game. Polygamous relationship.
She's in a non-monogamous marriage is what they call it.
Non-monogamous. Marriage, my bad.
So she could cheat.
They both can cheat, but they're married. No, not
cheating, because it's not cheating. Right.
If you know it's not cheating. They both can have other partners.
Yeah. I hope I'm explaining.
in that right. So this this US Sun article is crazy. Flings can only get better. Over 75% of
Cheech claim affairs actually improve marriages. But the son is like the this is a what are they
called the day what is the other one that's like bullshit? The Daily Mail? No no no no no no the
National Inquirer. Yeah like the tablox. What do we think about that though just off headlines not
reading the article? Do you think cheats you think affairs actually improve marriages? No. I mean if you cheat on me it
It's over.
Yeah, period.
Done.
If you look at Leonardo Caprio the way that Jeff Bezos's wife looked at
Leonardo Cabrio, I don't know if we're coming back from that either.
Yeah.
I don't know if we're coming back from that one, bro.
What that show you, though?
You know what showed me is, this is...
Money ain't shit?
No, it's not money ain't shit.
This is what I think a lot of people aren't realizing.
You don't think that girl thinks she could get Leonardo Cabrio?
Yeah, girls, she got the richest man in his history.
and the richest man in the world to leave his wife,
give half of his riches up for her.
Yeah.
That girl thinks she could accomplish anything.
She got the super fire.
Like a little bit of you got to be like,
what does she have?
Ain't no way in hell I'm paying $50 billion for some pussy.
He did.
And depending how Leonardo de Caprio's ego is set up,
he's going to smash just because it's Jeff Paiso's wife.
Boom.
I smash Pesos, boom, boom.
Look at her.
Look at her.
And is he on a step or something?
That's crazy.
Did he hit her with the no, no?
Yeah.
Easy, easy, easy.
By the way, we don't know what kind of relationship
that her and Jeff got.
You know what I'm saying?
Jeff might be paying for her.
Like, he might be, what's that thing they've been called?
Non-monogamous relationship.
No, it's another one where you like to see your wife,
or you like to see a significant other,
get smashed by another dude.
Oh, cuckhold.
Cuckholding.
Yeah, you never know.
You know, man, listen, these people be into all types of shit, man,
that we don't know.
You got all that money.
Come on.
All I'm saying is like,
This girl, do not sleep on this girl.
This girl knows what she accomplished.
Let me see.
Come on.
Fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan, fan.
You're crazy right now.
If we go to the grocery store, Carla do that to the fucking grocery store guy at the line.
Yeah.
She'd do what she's saying something wild.
Like, are you really a wolf?
Look.
You know what I mean?
And she looks like, she's saying something crazy.
He's not even listening to Jeff.
Why didn't he hit with the DeCubey Matumbo finger wag?
Look at this, look at this.
Jeff's still talking to him.
He's just walking away.
Nah.
Disres.
respect.
Well, because I'm Leonhard of the Caprio.
Because money don't matter.
I'm Leonado de Caprio.
You're Jeff Bezos.
But woman, got to understand,
you could disrespect the man.
A man going to disrespect the man.
Leo's like,
until you give me 100 million for climate change,
bro, like you just gave Van Jones that 100 million.
Don't talk to me, all right?
Man, he put two billion up for climate change.
He did?
Yeah.
Did he give it to Leo, though?
No, probably.
You know Leo the man?
No, I get what you.
Do you really think Leo give a fuck about the climate, dog?
Yeah.
Come on, fam.
No, he cares.
That's the Hollywood shit.
No, he cares.
The guy flies a private plane around the world.
It's electric, though.
But what fuels the private...
It's electric.
It's electric.
He's like an electric plus.
It's electric.
Boogie, boogie.
We don't know what fuels a private plane.
That's just the right cause because both parties can support it.
Leo needs a cause that he can support because he got all the money in the world.
He got all the bitches in the world.
So he needs a cause to make him look like a good dude.
And he needs a cause that's not going to piss off both sides.
And the environment is good.
I'll tell you what.
It don't matter if you're in the climate change.
not the Earth going to correct itself, buddy.
Yeah, you think?
A hundred percent.
Really?
Earth is looking at us like, they really think that you're not doing that.
They really think they got some time left.
Yeah.
Yo, you got, I'm telling you, man, when you and your girl are around each other,
watch dinosaurs, bro.
Okay.
Remember the old show dinosaurs that used to come on TJF?
I'm the baby.
Go back and watch dinosaurs, man.
That shit was one of the most.
That show had so much socially redeeming value.
and the whole show was all about climate change.
That's how they went extinct.
Climate change, yes.
The fucking, the boss of the factory
that the daddy dinosaur was working at
wanted to shoot some chemical in the air
to take the sun out of some shit like that.
And so the daddy helped with it.
But did that end up fucking up the environment
and causing climate change
and it caused the ice age.
Right.
Like the ending scene of that show
is one of the saddest scenes in the world, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, the baby was like, oh, we're going to, Daddy, are we going to be okay?
As the world is freezing, yeah, we're going to be okay.
And that's how it ends.
Watch dinosaurs, bro.
Climate change is real.
The Simpsons is crazy, too.
Yeah, this was Bayes was a comeback.
Jeff Bezos warns Leonardo de Caprio after video of his girlfriend goes viral.
Danger, steep cliff, fatal drop.
Yo, Leo, come over here for a second.
I love it.
Yeah.
I love it.
Do you think it's a joke?
It's funny when Leo does it.
No, that's a joke.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, shit.
If it was a joke, we would never know
because he got enough money to cover it all of.
Every single goddamn thing.
But no, for a money, I mean, I don't know
if cheating improves marriages or not.
But I do know that my ego is way too fragile
to be cockholding.
What's it called?
Cuckholding.
Cuckholding.
Yeah.
Compersion.
No, I'm monogamous.
I ain't got time.
You can do it with somebody you're not in love with.
You know what?
That's just your girl.
You go ahead and see her to get fucked by somebody
you smash her too.
I don't want to watch that.
I don't want to watch that.
Someone fuck my girl.
They're not mine.
That's what I'm saying.
Or a girl I'm dating.
I don't want to watch that.
If you're dating, you never shared girls before?
You never had sex with a girl who had a man?
Like you shared girls for years, I'm sure.
Yeah.
So why do you care?
She's just another girl that you share.
Yeah, but it's cuckold is you're just sitting there watching it, not like sharing it.
Cuckold is you just sitting there watching jerking off as some guy fucks your girl.
Real talk.
That's what I wouldn't.
You were the perfect person to cuck somebody.
No, that's.
You were what they imagined.
That's how it was a hedonism.
We went to hedonism a couple times.
Every single time we went, it was all of these older white people propositioning.
Yeah.
$2,000.
Yep, $2,000.
Black dude, dreadlocks, big.
Fuck my wife.
How much you got that weekend?
I got that guy stolen.
What else we got, man?
Yeah, what's up with this Will Smith-Jadish shit?
I hate it.
I hate it.
What's going on with all this, show?
I hate it, man.
I don't know, man.
man like that.
He too dope for you.
He's playing well out like that, man.
Will Smith is like, so sad.
He's really kind of fall apart.
I thought Will was doing Jada favor this whole time.
Like I was like, I guess he really loves her.
Like, that's why he wanted to be.
They've been together since the 90s, bro.
He could be with whoever you want.
That's Will Smith.
Yeah.
Yeah, but Jada's still Jada though.
Don't act like Jada.
He still deserved to have his own, man.
He deserves to have his own, man.
He deserved to have his own.
He deserves to have his own everything.
Yeah.
He doesn't share nothing.
I think that the problem with this situation,
is that we've looked at Will Smith and Jada
a certain way for so long.
Yes.
So when you find out that these people are just human beings
who go through regular human being shit like the rest of us,
everybody's like, oh my God, not Will and Jada.
Yeah.
I think smoking cigarettes outside the church, church of Phillips.
They're humans.
I think it's a lot of us look at Jada as lucky to be with Will.
So when we see Jada talking crazy,
I'm just saying, listen.
I've never looked at it like that.
I've always called myself a Pinkett.
Smith, Winfrey knows Carter.
I've always looked at Jada Pinkett as
a Jada Pinkett. Like, she's Jada,
is no joke, bro. Yeah, Jada, Jada dope and thubber.
I mean, maybe it's a white thing, but like, Jada
just didn't really penetrate white
culture that much. So we're looking at Will Smith
who's like, at one point in time, the biggest
celebrity in the world in terms
of like movie stars, action stars.
And then he's with this girl who's like,
kind of was in one of the Matrixes or something.
Yeah, but before that, to us, man, Jada Pinkett
Smith is culture. You know what I mean?
Because Jada Pinkett Smith was on.
different world.
She was going to set it off.
Not really,
not really tapping into the...
And just beautiful.
Like, damn.
Like, Jada was just always
one of them ones you looked at
when you was young, like,
listen, I'm sure she's great
and I'm sure it's awesome.
It looked like Will was really in love
with this girl,
and then it wasn't any clout shit
because he could get somebody way bigger.
The point I'm trying to make is...
Well, the point I'm trying to make is,
I think, at least in, like, white culture,
we thought that Will could do
whoever he wanted.
He could get whatever the fuck he wanted.
And now it looks like
this girl who we thought he was doing her a favor is shitting all over him and she's not having
a relationship. But you know what, though? She's cheating on him. He can't satisfy her. It's like,
yo, how much shit you got disclosed? But here's the thing, though. Stop disclosing everything.
Here's the thing, you know, if we just keeping it 100, it's like, yo, Jada didn't really say
anything bad when she did the interview with Gwynna Paltrow. I think that's what it was with.
People really took that out of context because all she said was like, yo,
thinking that you can read your partner's mind
is one of the biggest pitfalls
that you're going to have in a relationship.
That's a fact.
No, I think she said, like,
thinking that you're going to be happy together,
thinking you're going to be, like,
satisfied sexually your whole life for something.
But, but no, she said, but, no, she didn't say,
you sure you, you're sure you said?
Stop speaking facts, bro.
She didn't say it like that.
Let's say, damn.
Let's hear it, Alex.
Because, you know, I'm a Pinkett Smith,
Winfrey Knows Carter, so I leave bias.
Yeah.
Taylor got the,
I don't know what this is.
But my point is, like, Jada, they took it out of context
because everybody's looking for something now.
Like, ever since the entanglement situation, you know what I mean?
Everybody's taking out in context.
But, yo, we don't, but isn't it?
That's why I can't wait to read Will's book.
It comes out this week.
I actually ordered it already.
I hope I get it this week.
But we don't know what kind of relationship they got.
You're fucking up the brand.
They don't care about the brand no more.
Can I tell you something?
And they shouldn't.
Can I tell you something?
And a lot of men don't get credit for this.
But, like, there's famous men out there.
Like, fame is famous.
that their wives have cheated on them
and they chose not to share that information
keep it tucked to protect
the wife and the kids.
And the kids.
That's what it's about.
That's what I said.
And then they get caught cheating later
or something else happens later
after they're broken up
and it looks like some cheating shit.
And then that comes out
and they still don't say,
yo,
the reason why we're broken up is the wife.
Big difference.
Will and Jada.
Can't ever do it right.
Don't ever do dirt on the wife
because the kids.
But Will and Jada.
I can't believe you thought Jada's as big a fucking superstar as Will Smith.
No, but not even close.
No, no, no, no, no.
But when they started in the 90s, like Jada was no joke.
So put it like this.
Not even close.
No, put it like this.
We're talking about Will Smith here.
No, but in the 90s, I think they was together before even like he did six degrees of separation,
which was his first movie.
But even still, the TV show was big.
But Fresh Prince was a big sitcom show, but Jada was on a big sitcom show, too.
Not as big as French.
It might not have, I don't know if it was big as Fresh Prince.
No way.
And Jade is not the star of a big.
different world.
But she was on there enough that, like, we looked at her as a star.
You're talking about the star of the show versus a co-star on a less popular show.
But the difference between a different world and other shows, like, yes, you had Kadeem Hardison
and Whitley, Jasmine Guy who were, like, the centerpieces of it, but it was a show based
on a college campus, so everybody almost kind of had equal billing.
And Jada was the person who would come on screen and still the show, bro.
Like, her, you know, she just would.
And, like, her interactions with Tupac on the show, like, that was.
big to me growing up culturally.
That's the too big of a part.
That's the problem right there.
I'm like, that's pop.
And you think that that's as big as Will Smith,
superstar Will Smith.
Well, put it like this.
This shit shut the argument down.
Will wanted her and married her.
Yeah, but we'd be doing that all fucking time.
No.
Will wanted her and married out of all of the women in Hollywood.
Yes.
And everything that was going on,
Will saw Jada and said,
that's who I want to be with for the rest of my life.
That's what I'm saying because he really loved her.
Yeah.
You're bad.
So he's so he's saving.
He saved her.
No, I want to say he saved her, but she's not supposed to be doing nothing with nobody else.
He saved her.
They were, to me, Will and Jada were equal.
You're crazy.
To me?
You're crazy.
That's right.
That Willing that Jada love, baby.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was like hoping both Brady.
You think equal Billin?
Like, this guy was making 20 million a film.
Jada never made 20 million in her life for one project.
Yeah, it wasn't about money.
We're talking about the size.
It was about culture.
It was about culture.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about culture.
To me, Will and Jada have always made sense.
No, no, I'm not saying, really.
You know.
Yeah, especially in that time.
So you're telling me, you're trying to say Will and Jada is like Beyonce and Jay Z.
I put them more of the, yeah.
Beyonce and J.
That makes sense.
Then Will and Jada is not.
I ain't taking nothing away from Jada.
I'm just saying, Will is just Will.
I think he should have his own.
First of all, when did they, all right, they've been married since 97.
Also, you weren't even old enough to watch a different world.
No, you weren't.
No, you weren't.
No, you weren't.
No, you're talking about.
You couldn't enjoy it.
You're talking.
You're talking.
You're not.
You're not.
You don't even know the show.
You ain't enjoy it.
You don't even know her character.
What's her character's name on the show?
Exactly.
Cadeja.
No, it wasn't.
Listen, when did Will and Jada meet?
This is a great conversation because they married in 97.
So Google when they met.
Because you have to look at when they met.
You know what I mean?
Because Will became.
Now, see, you're just talking out of turn.
You don't know if that's true.
You don't know if that's true.
I've never heard that before.
You don't know that's true.
They met 94 when
Jada was 19.
They met 94.
When do you?
I don't know.
She said it on red table calls.
She said that.
She said that.
Google, Google, Google,
Will Smith left his wife for Jada.
Can we acknowledge she says too much?
I don't think so.
Hey.
She's got a fucking platform
called Red Table Talk.
Shut it down, though.
No.
Talk about some recipes.
Let's see.
We're going to see you right now.
When I say it, they yell at me.
Yeah.
You got kids.
We all talk too much.
We got microphones in our face.
I get it, but you want the kids, the mom would like totally lost the car.
The dad had just have a crash.
Did Will Smith leave his wife for Jada?
Let's see.
Yeah, kids involved.
Nobody wanted to know that mom was being nasty with somebody else.
How long did they take to type that in?
I don't care how much money you got.
Will Smith tells wife Jada Pinkett Smith that is divorced from Sherry's and Pino with his ultimate failure.
Scroll down.
Will Smith is reflecting on his past relationship and what it's like being five of three.
He's got to reflect him.
Doing a special father's all this reflection of Red Table Talk.
The actor got emotional while talking about his first marriage to Sheree,
Ampino.
The two were married from 92 to 95 and shared one child, 27-year-old wife, Trey Will,
later married Jada in 1997.
They have two kids together.
Divorce was the worst thing in my adult life.
Divorce was the ultimate failure for me.
I've been hurt a lot in my adult life, but I don't think anything touched the failure
at getting divorced from my then two-year-old son's mother.
If a man's not a great husband, then he loses his parental rights,
and I'm a way better father than I am husband.
show me Taylor
show me what Jada said
that will left
you made that shit up
like you made up
you watched the living
in a red table talk
show me
just go to the red table talk
where did she say it
Taylor's like
now Taylor say now you got
to get on the microphone
come on the mic
right there
I want you to
I want you to own this
come on tell
I am too on it
go to red table talk
you don't feel like talking about it
she's talking about it
she started
no it's not
I don't know
no you don't
go to red table talk
go to red table talk
you don't remember that
you made it up
You made it up.
Why can't people just admit when they're wrong?
I'm not being wrong because I knew that song.
No, you did not.
So then can we see it?
So if you saw it show us.
Because I would think that would be headline news everywhere.
You wouldn't have to search for that one.
So anybody out there, all our great researchers on Reddit, if we're wrong, we can come in here next week and admit that they're wrong.
Show us where Jada Pinkett Smith said that Will Smith.
Who said it?
I'm just saying they talked about it.
Who talked about it?
He was with his wife.
He met Jada on the set.
No, I'm going.
And then that's it.
What are you saying exactly now?
She says she didn't say it.
Yo.
She said somebody was talking about.
I don't know what she's talking about.
Yeah.
Hey, there's a mic right there.
You could just sit down and be silent.
Fettywap got arrested during this whole process.
That was wild.
You know what's fucked up about that.
Talk to me.
That's on his boys.
Nah.
Let me just, let me say it.
Maybe I don't know the whole situation.
But it's just like, he makes all this money.
He's removed himself from all the drug dealing, whatever.
But now he's still using the money to fund the drug dealing enterprise, right?
Should it went to weed.
Sure, sure.
There's a lot of should have could us.
What I'm just trying to say is like, he don't need to do this.
He doesn't need to sell drugs.
You don't know.
Let's assume he doesn't need to sell drugs.
His friends.
I can't assume that.
Because I get what you saying.
Can I just fucking say a point?
Jesus fucking Christ.
Let's go.
Go ahead.
Let me see you.
Okay.
You're a celebrity.
Bless.
There's basketball players who do this.
They don't need to, but they grew up with the gang.
They were raised with the gang.
Who's the basketball player that do this?
I don't want to snitch, but it's pretty well known.
But they grew up with the gang.
They got arrested for having a lot of.
Oh, but I mean, they didn't make NBA money, though.
Did they?
No, no, no, no, no.
Big, big, big.
So they grew up at the gang.
They're with the gang.
the gang, et cetera.
They go make the basketball money, but the gangs are,
yo, don't forget about us.
So they throw the gang money to run the drug
dealing enterprise, make sure that they could go get these packs,
make sure that they could go ship that shit around
using that big money.
They don't put enough of a smokescreen in between
the big money and how they purchase the stuff.
Okay?
If the guys are snitching on the person with the money,
you're double fucked up
because one,
you're supposed to be
the person that doesn't snitch
and two,
he don't need you.
He could have gone
and lived his happy life
that was outside,
legit.
But he said,
I'm not going to forget about y'all.
If this is how y'all want to hustle,
this is what you want to do?
The way of it's not that.
Now, if it's not that,
he needed to do this
so he could support his lifestyle.
That's what I think.
Not yet,
but certain things...
I take B.
But you understand what I'm saying.
I get it.
You're not wrong,
but I take B
in this situation.
But still,
why has his guys
snitching on him anyway.
Is this on him?
That's just part of the game.
He's not snitching on.
He's not going high.
I'm doing drugs.
No, I thought it was a federal investigation.
That's what I'm saying.
So certain things you actually knock on the cop's door,
feton or cocaine, certain type of dope.
Certain things docks on the cop's door.
He should have went to the weed game.
He had enough money to get into the weed game and make a lot of bread.
Why are you even getting to the weed game illegally?
I can't make no sense.
Like, what the fuck.
You're not in the weed game illegally.
That's what I'm saying.
Wax could get illegally.
Like, if y'all get married.
Like, if y'all out this motherfucker fucking cheating.
retarded. If I stopped cheating
is corny.
What I'm saying?
I don't know. I'm just saying back in
the day I used to cheat.
But if I stopped cheating...
That's what I'm saying. If I stopped cheating,
anybody could stop cheating.
I understood exactly what you were saying. Taylor's just trying to save face
from the Will & J. The comments.
Right.
Don't like it on that.
Fight us for what? Because you had some wrong information?
You said something that was inaccurate.
A little bomb.
Can you talk on the mic? Because right now, nobody at home...
Never in my life seen Jada Pinkett Smith say that.
We're doing this for people at home.
Yes.
Jada and this is what Taylor said.
Taylor said that Jada...
Don't you want to produce the podcast?
Taylor said that Jada and...
I mean, Will and his ex-wife got a divorce because of Jada Pinkett
Smith.
That was her original statement.
She said that.
She said that.
Yes.
I can't, I need to...
Jada said it.
I said it.
So who said it?
So who said it?
This is good.
Taylor said she did.
Taylor said she never said Jada said it.
She just said it was on Red Table Talk.
Charlemagne never said it.
It was on Breakfast Club.
So who said it?
Andrew Schultz never said it, but it was on Flagrant 2.
Who said it?
So who said it?
If it wasn't Jada saying it, was it Grams?
Was it Willow?
No, you got your own story.
I'm so confused
flabbergasted.
Yeah, I really am flabbergasted.
Ready?
Can we have some homework this weekend?
I just want to know.
Maybe I really want to know
because as a Pinkett Smith
Winfrey knows Carter,
I have to have facts about my people.
So I need to know if Jada left Will.
I mean, Will left his ex-wife
because of Jada.
That's what Taylor said.
No, Jada said it.
Jada said it.
No, what the fuck?
See how this shit
Cole.
The way that's bothering me is that you're not willing to admit that you might be wrong.
I know.
I remember hearing you, but it's your right.
I know we're right.
So it doesn't matter.
Now, when you Googled it and couldn't find it, was there a little bit of concern?
Like, at any point in the Google, at any point in time in the Google, we're like, maybe I missheard something at all.
You didn't even look at up.
You did look for it first.
Wait, hold on.
You Googled it.
I know.
And we watched you.
Are you saying?
You can't recall that.
When I want to look at the stuff, you didn't want me to, so it doesn't matter.
But we did Google it together, right?
We did Google it together, right?
Taylor is the Kanye West of producers.
This is entertaining.
It's entertaining.
That's the only reason we're on it.
It's entertaining.
We know it's inconsistent, but it's just entertaining.
This isn't really entertaining.
What happened right there, yeah?
Jada said it, so you got to listen.
That's going to be the name of the podcast.
You all want us some real shit?
It's true.
I googled it.
No, it's not.
No, you did.
You're a liar.
It just need to be a guy.
It's not true.
Let me see.
Look.
Is it a red table talk?
Let me see.
Let me see.
I know you're lying.
You have to be that guy.
This is Christ.
Look, it's more entertainment.
It's entertainment, Doc.
We just lie for entertainment.
Hold your head fat.
That's all this shit is in the out days.
Everybody lying for fucking entertainment, man.
What's the point of being consistent?
Who gives a fuck?
Nobody cares about the truth from the lies.
He's young.
You know what I'm saying?
Nobody got no pussy
like you.
You didn't get no pussy before you.
That's a dead.
It's a lie.
We all started young.
Did you ever lie about getting pussy?
I couldn't.
I'm not like I was really getting pussy.
Yeah, I guess.
You were getting molested.
I guess so.
We all were at a young age.
Not me.
You never got molested?
I never got molested.
Pretty good.
Let's do some asking idiots, man.
Okay.
Do some asking idiots and get up out of hell.
Oh, shit.
We need Taylor for asking an idiot.
Oh, my God.
I'll pee real quick.
And then I'll pee real quick.
And then I'll do it.
I'll come back.
Okay, let's tie this all up.
I think we found it, bro.
I think we found it.
I think Taylorgate.
Okay, this is...
No, this is it.
No, this is it.
And it ties it all in about even what I was saying
with Different World.
Okay.
This is the timeline of Will Smith and Jada's relationship.
1995, the Smith started dating.
During a 2018 Red Table Talk appearance,
Smith expressed that he was attracted to Pinkett Smith
when he later saw her on the college-themed TV series
A Different World.
Now, mind you, him and his wife
having problems at this time. I knew there was something in our energy that would be magic,
he said. Unfortunately, Smith was married at the time to Fletcher and decided not to act on his
attraction to Pinkett Smith. Smith later revealed on Red Table Talk that he knew Pinkett Smith was the one,
an aha moment he had in a restaurant bathroom while he was on a dinner date with Fletcher.
I had a realization I wasn't with the person I was supposed to be with, Smith said. I was sitting
in a stall and I was crying and laughing uncontrollably. And I knew Jada was the woman I was
supposed to be with, but I was never getting divorced. I went back out, sat down with
Sheree, and started going back on with my life. It wasn't until Fletcher ended things with Will
that he tried to woo the actress. He asked Pinkett Smith if she was seeing anyone and her
response was no. Cool. You're seeing me now. Smith smoothly told her. From there, Pinkett Smith moved
from Baltimore to California and the two began dating. Smith and his ex-wife officially divorced
in late 1995. And then in 1997, Jada and Will got married.
So he had the hats for her
He liked her but he wasn't cheating on her
Is that fair to say?
That's not what you said
No, we're not letting her get out with that one
No, keep her in the figure four
That is not what she said Andrew
No, but then I said like he had like he liked you
That's not what you said Taylor
I didn't satisfy myself I'm saying right now
Oh okay
So you can admit you was wrong the first time
You lied on my cousins
as a Pinkett Smith
went free nose card it.
It was wrong.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Not how you worded it was wrong.
You would just wrong.
He wanted to be there probably, though.
Probably.
Lord Jesus.
Lord Jesus.
Lord Jesus, help me.
Lord Jesus, help me.
Help me, Lord Jesus.
Hey, can we say a prayer?
I think we need to say a prayer all of us together.
Jesus.
Jesus.
Let's say a prayer.
Jesus.
I think we need to say a prayer.
Jesus.
Can we please say a prayer?
Can we please say a prayer?
James like, I'm busy, man.
It's about to be Christmas.
Leave me alone.
I got a time of this, all right?
Listen, bro.
Can we need, I think we need to say a prayer.
Can someone lead us in a prayer?
Now I'll lay me down to sleep.
I pray Janet Pinkett, get my soul to keep.
If I should die before I wake, I pray Will Smith my soul to take.
Amen.
Done.
In Jesus' name.
Amen.
You ready?
Let's do some masking idiots.
Let's do it.
Paulito Sway 87 says,
says, when life gets chaotic, what's the one thing that grounds you that you tend to overlook?
Ooh, this is a good one.
Shit.
What do you think?
As Peter Baylish said, chaos is a ladder.
I like chaos.
Chaos is a time where you get to come up.
It all depends on where it's coming from.
Yeah, I guess you're saying if there's chaos in, like, your personal life, that might be tricky.
But, like, chaos is a ladder, my friends.
Chaos will take you to the top.
chaos offers moments for you to step your game up.
You know, so if everything's too comfy, shit is whack.
Like right now, I think everything's too comfy.
You know what I mean?
Like chaos is different than like trouble.
Pandemic was chaos and we were popping.
Not to me.
I don't think, say what?
I don't think that was chaos.
Not to me.
Man, I'm looking at chaos.
For a lot of people, it was chaos.
I get it.
I thought it was peaceful.
I enjoyed it.
The way my anxiety set up, not having to leave a house every day,
knowing with all the family.
at in the house.
Like, everything out of control, bro.
I think most people didn't have the same
opportunities or privilege, if you
will, as you had.
But it provided a situation where,
you know, we obviously, we were doing to turn
your phones, we did the Netflix special.
And then when we came out of that and started touring,
like it gave a lot of opportunities.
Say what?
Chaos is like, yeah, life is turned upside down.
Let's literally what happened during the pandemic.
Turn your phone.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't think that people's life got turned upside down
in the pandemic?
They lost their jobs.
There's no way that they couldn't leave their house.
A lot of people for the better.
Stop me, I mean, a lot of people, what are you talking about?
How many fucking millions of people died?
Like, they're talking about.
People committing suicide.
Why are you just talking to talk?
No.
I mean, you forgot what happened last year.
No, but you put like this.
If you like, 50% of people that are like, oh, they're kind of great.
And another 50%, yeah, people died in their life and stuff like that.
I think it's probably more like 80, 20.
People's mental health was fucked up.
They were locked inside.
Couldn't be around people.
People lost their jobs.
Yeah.
People that went back.
the work and realize I don't even want to work here no more.
That's what I'm saying.
It was happy as hell.
They were like, they just got adjusted
to something new.
You met like two people like that.
Majority people were fucked up,
you see.
You see the comments.
They tell you, no,
shit was great for me.
Yeah, but those comments probably represent
the 5% to 10% of people.
Yo, the world, the world.
Not just America.
The world was fucked up last year.
But you know what?
They are able to write so that in their life.
There was chaos, bro.
But what I'm saying is chaos provides
opportunity at times.
So when I see things that are in disarray,
when I see things that are fucked up,
when I see people looking for answers
and those types of things,
I'm like, oh, it's time to shine, let's go.
When everybody's calm, cool, collected, chilling,
like you ever go to, like, a beach resort
and shit like that?
Like, ain't no point in making content
and a beach resort.
No point in fucking doing podcasts and shit like that.
Like, you're at a beat resort,
everybody's out there chilling and enjoying life.
Like, I don't feel like I want to create.
There's nothing to create based on.
There's nothing to push back against.
But when there's some chaos,
it's like, ooh, let's get cooking.
But what do you go to?
You go to cigarettes?
When you have chaos, what do you go to?
Well, for me, it's work.
Like, that becomes a drug.
Because there's something to work for.
There's something to work for. There's something to work towards.
There's something to solve. There's a problem to solve.
There's no problems to solve.
Like, I ask all the time in my shows, I'll ask people.
I be like, what is bothering you right now?
What's the issue right now?
What are you pushing back against?
And people just look at me dumbfounded.
They're like, oh, because nothing's going on.
I got such a great team around me.
that professionally chaos is like very much at a minimum
because everybody does what they're supposed to do
and keeps the chaos for me.
So therefore I'm able to focus on creative
and focus on my personal well-being.
Because if my personal well-being isn't good,
nothing else matters.
You know what I mean?
So when you ask me,
what's the one thing that grounds you that you tend to overlook,
I would probably say family
because there's nothing that grounds you like family.
To me, and it's just something that you,
expect to be there so much?
I feel, yeah, I feel guilty with that.
But I'm saying, but you expect it to be there so much
and you're always working, you're always on the go.
So those moments when you're in the house and like,
damn, I really provided a great life for my family,
you know what I mean?
And these are the people that love me unconditionally,
you know what I mean?
And like having daughters is different because it's just,
it's love all day except for the 13 years,
even though she loves me, but, you know,
it's not, now I'm at the point,
I've got to prove my love to her.
You know what I mean?
Like, he does.
Like, whatever.
She's like every day, it's a prove to me,
you love.
love me. Or maybe that's just my brain thinking like that. But that's how it feels. Like every day
I got to prove to her that I love her. But it's just like, um, yeah, family, man. Like family.
We tend to take family for granted, Joe. We really do. What about, okay, how, how often you
see your parents? Not enough. Just, just, I'm about to fuck your shit up right now.
Not enough at all. Not enough. What? I see my mom this weekend. Three times a year, four times a year.
Probably. All right, three times a year. A little bit more for me, but yeah. Right. All right, 10 times
year. You're three. I'm probably, maybe I see them tops once a month and I live close to them.
We'll both live in my head. How many more years do you think they'll live? This is where shit gets
fucked up. Let's say you see them three times a year. Let's say your parents and we're being generous
live like what another 30 years? Three times year, 30 years. That's generous, bro. And that's
generous. That's generous. 30. So let's say it's 20. Yeah. I mean, I hope they do though.
We hope and let's say it's 20. That's. That's generous. That's generous. That's generous. That's generous. That's generous. It's
60 more total times
you'll hug your mom
you know what I mean
like 60 more total times
100% bro
you get him everything now
he pops to say that he's proud of you
and loves what you're doing
and total
in your life
if we're lucky
when I started looking at shit like that man
I just felt so guilty
that's why you shouldn't take it for granted
I mean but I'm like that with like
everybody in my
life that knows, that I know loves me and I love them. You know what I mean? Because it's like we're
not with every, I'm not with everybody every day. Like, and there's more people, like, you know,
I'm with wax all the time. You know what I mean? I, you know, I talk to Adali all the time. I see
my wife every day, you know what I mean? But sometimes you can, you take that for granted.
The fact that you see them every day. So it can go either way. The fact you don't see them
or the fact you see them every day. You know what I mean? It's just like, yo, man,
Don't take that shit for granted.
When you got, like, people around you that ground you, like, literally ground you.
Like, you know, you can walk in this room and just be you?
Yeah.
Don't take that shit for granted.
Yeah.
Don't take that shit for granted.
And it's usually your family and friends that you tend to overlook.
It's like, oh, they're going to be there.
That's how we've been with the women in our life forever, right?
At least me, I can speak on my, like, I'm always used to women being there for me, right?
That's why when I started hearing, you know, these conversations about black women saying how they feel overlooked and black women feel.
and black women feel like they're
disrespected and they're men are there for them.
I understand it because you just expect them to be there
because they've always been your mom, your grandma, your aunts.
You know what I mean?
So you just take them for granted.
Like, oh, that's just they're going to be there, you know what I mean?
What you got to eat from you, Auntie?
Don't even care how she, what happened to her.
That's it.
You can ask how she doing.
You know what I mean?
You ain't asking if she's good.
Like you're coming in, we're coming there and do the label.
You know, you ain't going to let your mom and your aunties, you know,
but you don't ask, you don't really invest in them
and see how they are.
They just are.
Yeah, you just expect.
And we tend to take that for granted, like literally.
And then, like, one day it's just like if you're smart,
you have a wake-up call and you start moving with intention
when it comes to the women in your life.
You know what I mean?
And you start pouring into them the way they poured into you.
They did it first for a year.
They did it first for a year.
I'm watching how she take care of some.
I'm like, how do you do?
I cannot do that.
Women hold it down and always have.
They do.
And what did we reward them with?
No, we hold it down too.
They got a house.
We rewarded them with Snoop Dogggy style album and the chronic.
No, we hold it down too, man.
The guys who do that part, you got to salute these guys.
We're doing better now.
We're doing a lot better now.
But the reason we're doing a lot better now because we're moving with intention.
And the cracker is gone.
The crackhead era is gone.
Oh, crackhead error.
I mean, you don't understand.
That would take a lot of us out of the houses and stuff like that.
They're taking our OGs away.
That's true.
They wanted to take control of our towns and shit like that
that they see us growing.
But don't, yeah, I got a lot of fathers out there
who actually do their part.
If you get a good partnership,
the mom is very important,
but the dad is very important too.
And we're letting the women lead.
Let them lead.
I can't do that shit.
I can't do it.
Let them leave.
The house, nothing.
I get, oh, I'm like one of the kids.
What do you need me to do?
I'm definitely one of the kids.
I might be the biggest kid.
What you need me to do?
I'm definitely the most emotional in the house.
I don't know where shit is in my house.
Like, my friends come
over and they'll ask for like yeah yeah like I don't know where the cups are I truly do not know I don't
why you asking me for you don't see yeah she right here like you want you see the screwdriver somehow let me
for a screwdriver or the or a blow or something that they were that I don't even know either man
speaking of my angel I got that my angel texting me right now what she said something about something
it's all good but that's how I know it's God that's just it's just God like I will say this though
like because I'm on the road and constantly busy
and I don't have tons of time with my girl,
I cherish that time.
So I feel like I'm not wasting it.
I feel like we're taking advantage of it
and like we're super intentional about it.
And I think that if you don't have that,
like if you have all this free time,
you guys can end up just like hanging out
and just watching movies all the time,
but you're not really like finding ways
where you guys will do something interesting
and like enjoy the time.
Maybe that's what you like doing.
though.
I like, maybe that's what you like doing.
We do it as well, but like, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but like,
I think it's easy to get in a routine when you're comfortable with someone where you don't
continue to try to do things that excites you both.
And because we have limited time together, we are trying to take advantage of those times.
And that doesn't mean necessarily an activity, but like going, hey, let's turn off the phone.
Let's turn on the phone and, like, talk to each other, enjoy each other.
But I bet you if I was at home 7 o'clock every single night, we wouldn't do that.
we just kind of sit and enjoy,
like not really take for granted
that we have that time with each other.
I think the biggest thing to realize
is just intention, man.
That's my word for the rest of my life.
Be intentional.
Everything has to have intention.
Even when somebody brings something to me,
I don't care what it is.
Like, what's the intention behind it?
Yeah.
I need everything has to have intention.
Your relationships, you know,
your projects that you're creating, creatively,
everything.
Your day, when you wake up in the day,
what's your intention for the day?
Yeah.
You can't just wake up and go.
What's your intention?
for the day, man.
Did success change how much you cared about things?
A hundred percent.
What kind of question is that?
Thousands.
Who's the idiot telling us otherwise?
I'm just saying it's really interesting, like, how, like, important, like, political
issues and all his other kind of shit is.
And then you get some success.
Like, in terms of, when I mean success, I don't mean, like, Twitter followers.
I mean, like, you have some...
Multi-millions of dollars.
Yeah, like some financial success where you're good.
And all of a sudden, these little, like,
like things that, you know, people bicker about,
but they don't actually really care about.
You're like, do I want to get robbed up and invest in that?
No, no, no, no.
I thought you were talking about just life, other things.
But that stuff, no.
It actually makes me care about it less.
Yeah, less.
You're like, you're like, you actually,
I used to be in that little rat race
where I care so much about this topic
that was popular this week.
And now I'm like,
this is not going to be popular a week from now.
Do I want to dedicate mental energy
to this bullshit topic
that they're forcing us to fight
about. No. No. You don't know nothing
and that's the way to go. But when you don't have anything
else to rely on, you're like, oh, I got to
care about this. It's like almost
it becomes like sports.
You're like, oh, it's Sunday? I'm
caring who the Cowboys are playing
this week. But realistically
it don't fucking matter. It's football.
You start to realize like the politics, the what?
When you don't have a life. You would say that when your team is
three and six. Of course. Hey, guess what? My team is
six and two. I didn't even know my team's three and six.
Exactly. You shouldn't. Yeah.
I don't care.
See how you just got red just now?
You got pissed off.
My Dallas Cowboys is 62.
We're going to sue bowl.
Cowboys are life, baby.
Yeah.
I don't know what you're talking about.
You had me until you said that.
But you know how like you're opting into the Cowboys?
No.
You're not from Dallas.
You're not even from Texas.
Didn't have a choice.
You did have a choice.
No.
Yes, you did.
My daddy.
You do everything your daddy does?
My daddy.
You do everything your daddy does?
I did.
Until I made a cognitive decision not to.
but my daddy tased the Marine on 9-11 at MetLife Stadium.
I know.
During the Cowboys' Jets game.
Amazing.
Now, you tell me you think I had a choice.
Get some respect on that star.
It happens.
I call it cat.
No, that's real shit.
Huh?
Now that you Google.
Taylor, Google that one.
Taylor.
Taylor.
Google that one.
Now I want to come up immediately.
But you understand what I'm saying is like we choose the things that we want to get emotionally
involved in.
And I guess, I don't know, for some reason, like when I had less financial stability,
You cared about dumb shit more
Way more, bro
And now we don't affect
I don't give a fuck about this
And I'm asking you guys this
Because I wanted to make sure
That this isn't my own thing
And that this is a function of stability
It's like when you have your stability
You're less emotionally charged by these issues
I never give a fuck about nothing though bro
So you never cared
But like Charlotte you cared
You cared too
You wanted to have the hot take on this thing
That was happening in the news and that shit
I didn't really care
Early on you did
No, I never cared.
I just didn't know no better.
I just gave a fuck about dumb shit.
I was trying to survive.
So it's just like literally everything that was out there.
Like, oh, I'm going to talk about this.
I'm going to talk about this person.
I'm going to talk about that.
I'm going to talk about that.
I'm going to talk about this.
I felt that was my job.
You felt it was your job.
I felt it was my job.
And then you got some stability.
Well, two things.
Number one, man, at least for me, like you get older and you start to like see the game
and realize that, man, when you were on the outside looking in,
you just didn't know what the fuck you was talking about.
So you just violent.
And by the way, I see that now.
So it's like, it's the craziest thing
where to imagine somebody trying to tell,
tell me about you.
Are you even crazier?
Somebody trying to tell you about you.
That's all this era we're in now is.
It's all of these people who don't know us from a,
don't know us other than what they hear on the microphones
and literally trying to tell us about our personal life.
And I think about it 10 years ago, that was me.
I was trying to tell other people about them and who they are.
So do you pretend to care about issues because you feel like that's the bridge to making it?
I'm not saying there aren't still issues that bother me and incite that reaction.
I talk about issues now because I genuinely care about it.
Exactly.
That's why I love doing my TV show.
Like the stuff you see me talk about on my TV show, the stuff I want to talk about.
Exactly.
But now I can't muster up the care for like the frivolous shit.
Whereas before I would be engaged with it.
Can't do it.
That time.
Time is.
And I'm trying to understand what that is a function of.
Are we getting older and we understand what time?
We appreciate time now.
I think it is.
We've never appreciated time before.
And you understand time is money.
Like the shit you said about the movie earlier.
You spent 12 hours on a movie set.
In your mind, you're like, you know how much money 12 hours is?
Yo, that's the thing.
I'm paying to do the movie.
Like if I got to cancel the show, which I did, like I'm paying them to do it.
So now I'm looking at this in terms of like cost, was it time cost analysis,
whatever it is.
where it's just like,
where, you know,
I understand doing this thing
could lead to other things
that could provide security
for, you know, my friends and family.
It's an investment.
It's an investment.
It's an investment.
Same thing with family.
Like, I feel like certain times
she want to go do something
things on the weekend.
I'm like, I got to fly over here
to go do something.
Yeah.
And it's like, do I stay here with her
to invest in our family and future
or invest in our family and future?
Mm-hmm.
So which one do you do?
Yeah.
Yeah, and she's going to want time naturally, and we want her to want time.
Yeah, we don't ever want our girl to be like, don't hang out with me.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go get the money.
Please, please be away.
Anyway, yeah, come on.
But we also have to be mature enough to go.
Balance.
Hey, I need to provide security for us.
I need to go hit these comedy clubs during the week and work out new jokes so I could go on tour
and do a whole new tour and continue building this fucking tour.
do arenas so that we can live the life that we talk about and dream about.
I need to do that.
And that means I got to sacrifice time that I want to spend with you.
Yes.
We want to spend time with you do.
Yeah.
And the crazy part is, you know, we all act like we got time.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yo, my plan is 50.
I'm out.
And I want to spend the rest of my life.
You know, I run these companies from afar.
You know what I mean?
And like, you know, like be sitting on the money that I made over the past decade or
whatever and let the family do what they want.
But I want to, the reason I want that is because I want to spend the rest of my life
actually going to search for the meaning of life.
I want to go do ayahuasca and fucking, you know, grow a long beard and like be doing yoga
every goddamn day.
Like, I really do.
Like, I'm not even joking when I say, like, I really want to just practice my, I want
to go live on an island somewhere and just like, don't do anything but try to find that
ultimate piece of mind.
$20 million in the bank is a million dollars a year in interest.
Can you live on a million dollars?
Can I?
I'm just saying
if you can get
$20 million in a bank
My lifestyle ain't cry
I don't do not
I'm not one of these guys
You don't see me in no Bentley
You don't see me in no phantom
You ain't see me out here buying
No big ass crazy jewelry
You know what I mean
And by the way
This is what I talk about
When I have these conversations
It's about you know
Understanding business
Like you know
You got so many people I hear
That's so pumped up
About wanting to own 100% of nothing
Right
Instead of owning
50% of a multimillion dollar
industry, right? So you know what I like? I like being able to provide opportunity and employment.
You know what I mean? And let these major corporations that we partner with fit the bill.
And in the meantime, we're building our own generational wealth while this other company,
why this company is fitting the bill. So it's like, that's what I'm here to do.
So when you talk about living beyond your means, I don't live beyond my means. And
The overhead is taking care of.
I'm just saying, that's good business to me.
I'm just saying in terms of like retirement,
like I always try to think about things like how do you back into what you need?
So if I, if,
if you know what you need to live on per year,
like let's say you want to live on $2 million here
and you know that you want to do that forever,
then you know.
You can easily do that.
40 million.
Then you know you need 40 in the bank now.
Now,
if you want to keep grinding and keep working and keep, you know,
making money and making your money make money,
that's some shit.
I'm trying to understand.
understand now? I could live off five in the bank. You could live a five in the bank and what the
interest of that would be. Yeah, hell yeah. What's 20% of $5 million? You know, when we start throwing
these numbers around, like number. Like 200,000 times five. 250. You just made, what? I think it's
250,000. It's 250,000. If you crib, if you crib, your cribs paid off. Five. 25,000 a year, yeah.
Yeah, if your cribs paid off like, you, yeah. You're living. Like, you, man, of course you could.
There's no question that you can. Yeah. There's things I got going on.
my life right now that I'm going to see royalties and statements off forever.
Yeah.
Like the book business is great.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm talking about my own personal books.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, forget the imprint, like my own personal, shook one and black privilege.
I get statements sometimes like, oh, shit.
You know what I mean?
And that started like immediately, right?
So it's just like, whatever.
God is good, man.
I'm like, I'm not tripping off that.
The only thing I want to do is be able to live comfortably for the rest of my life.
make sure the people around me are good
and if I'm doing everything I'm supposed to be doing now
everybody will be set up
and we'll be fine and you know
catch me on the island somewhere man
straight up ayahuasca out
yeah that's what I'm aiming for
what do you think you're gonna find
what do you mean? I don't know
I don't know but I can't wait to do it
I can't wait to figure it up
somebody just told me about strums and they'd be so small
and it's like everything else is just so big
and I'm like
I want ayahuasca I want to see that other dimension
bro. Even though I feel like I go in and out of the other
dimensions now, I want to really feel
that's not the same thing, the mushroom?
Nah. Ayahuasca's a plant. They put in the tea.
I mean, you can put the mushrooms in a tea too, but
I'm trying to do ayahuasca this year before the years
over, bro. That's my goal.
You did it feel? No, I don't know.
I was curious in it, but I didn't need it.
And like, my whole feeling is like
if I don't need it, if I'm not yearning for it, if I'm not
really wanting it, then I don't want to push
it because, I don't
the way I kind of look at life right now is like I'm driving towards something and I'm using
my anxiety and I'm using my insecurity as a furnace.
Okay.
Right.
That's the engine.
It's like,
so it's like that's the fuel for me to get what I desire.
And then I think when I retire,
I'm going to try to unlearn this life that I've learned to live,
which is working all the time, grinding, striving for more pushing myself.
Yeah, if you do it right now, you might get, this might be like.
Yeah.
I'm not trying to do that work all the time driving, pushing myself when I got grandkids and shit.
Like, I want to learn how to do nothing and enjoy that day.
I don't know how to do that just yet.
I fall apart.
But I do one day want to be able to just sit on the beach and do nothing and feel like that was okay.
Here's the thing, right?
To your point, the reason I'm cool with that is because my something is empowering other people.
Yeah.
So I like getting my Clarence Avon on.
I like getting my Sean J.
Jay Z Carter on, meaning like, I don't, I'm a sitting on that beach, but I'm, okay, I might be the
person that's the head of this company.
But what if you did nothing?
That is nothing to me.
No, no, no, no.
But being ahead of a company is something.
Are you okay enough with yourself where you can do nothing for anyone else and nothing
for yourself and that day is still okay?
Yeah.
I don't know.
That's a good question.
Because it feels like you're paying.
I answered that like Aaron Rogers.
I said, yeah, but then I was.
like I'm immune.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But you know what I'm saying?
It feels like you're paying to death.
It's like, well, I can feel good about myself because I'm throwing out all these assists.
But I want to get to the point where I can just feel good about myself sitting on this beach.
And like, that'd be cool.
That'd be okay.
And just enjoying a nice cup of team.
I think we're in a mold, man.
I think we're in a mode.
I was in New Orleans and I was talking to an older guy.
He was like, all my friends are dead.
Yeah.
He said because they all stopped.
And the way we move.
Yeah.
Like, I think if I slow down now, I'm only 38, I might, my problems might be happening to
because I've been moving hard, been flying for years, like nonstop.
Not me.
How do I slow down?
I think, no, no, I think what he's saying is interesting.
It's like oftentimes old people stop working.
They just die.
I get it.
I get it.
I think it's because they're not putting the work in to switch their brain.
Their brain just gets miserable because they need the work, but they're no longer doing it.
But like, what if they made their new goal to be able to just enjoy?
things in life, man.
That's how I feel.
Yeah, yoga and stuff probably do that great transition.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
That's right.
When we go on vacation now, we're going on spiritual retreats and stuff like that.
That's what we do.
Yeah.
Like literally.
Start transferring your mind.
I'm all in.
I'm into that now.
So 10 years from now, when I really phase out, it's a wrap.
Bye.
Yeah.
Peace.
Peace, God.
Peace God.
Plus, what we done did it by then.
Like, we didn't, I really do feel like in the next decade.
Like, if y'all thought the last decade was dope,
The next decade where every, just think about where we started 10 years from now.
Yeah.
And think about where we are right now.
Just think about the last couple of years, everything that we are positioning ourselves to do.
And think about where we're going to be in the next tent.
Seriously.
Think about that.
I want everybody just to sit back and think about that.
Just think about where do you think these guys are going to be in the next decade?
Based off how they're positioning themselves.
Yeah.
Position.
Just think about it.
Just think about it.
Like the torches.
You think things change just like that.
Facts.
I don't forget how y'all was talking about me.
I said you.
Motherfuckus.
I don't forget shit.
They talk about me like that my whole life.
I don't forget shit.
That's what you don't learn how to do.
Forget.
I don't forgot.
Asa-wasis.
Okay, Taylor.
As always, if you listen to this podcast,
you think you're smart,
you think you're intelligent,
you think you're brilliant,
you're absolutely right.
But if you listen to this podcast
and you think we're just a couple idiots
who don't know shit,
you're right too.
It's the brilliant idiotous podcast.
Thank you for listening.
Charles.
