The Brilliant Idiots - In Total Surrender

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

In this episode of the Brilliant Idiots podcast, Charlamagne tha God and Andrew Schulz discuss the solar eclipse, the origins of country music, Taylor Swift's upcoming album, and J. Cole's recent apology to Kendrick Lamar. They touch on the power of the internet, the manipulation of headlines, and the importance of focusing on local change. They also analyze J. Cole's decision to step back from the conversation about being the best rapper and apologize to Kendrick Lamar. They the desire for a J. Cole and Kendrick Lamar battle, the perception of their success, and the pressure on Drake to live up to his past successes. They also touch on the concept of legacy and the importance of creating authentically, Tori Spelling's bathroom habits and Russell Simmons' response to criticism of his daughter's relationship, the hosts discuss the controversial topic of age-gap relationships and the societal judgments surrounding them. They explore the idea of letting children make their own choices and the potential motivations behind such relationships. The conversation then shifts to the success of the South Carolina Gamecocks women's basketball team and the impact of influential women in the sport. The hosts also touch on the importance of communication with their daughters and the complexities of parenting. ************************************ Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Alice Randall "My Black Country" Out Now! https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/My-Black-Country/Alice-Randall/9781668018408 Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ TaylorMade-It Production Contact: [e-mail] Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Charlamini, the guy, Andrew Scho. We are the brilliant idiots podcast, back for another week of brilliant idiotness. How you feel, Heseky Walker? You know, I feel good, man. You got superpowers, too? I do definitely got superpowers because I look directly at the motherfucking eclipse. See, I figured it out, right? Talk to me.

They tell us, don't look at the eclipse because that's how you get your motherfucking powers. See, now, honestly, that's the thing. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You know, you know. Right at that motherfucker. Don't listen to them. Don't listen to them. And then everybody who didn't look at it is jealous.

Why do you think Trump's got so many superpowers? because he looked right at it too. Also, all of us made fun of Trump, like we didn't do the exact same fucking thing. I know y'all looked at it. I did it a couple times yesterday just because I forgot to put my glasses on. Hey, I don't even want to say what I did.

What did you do? What did you do, man? You held the baby up to the goddamn... No, I didn't do that. No, I got. Yes, you fucking did. No, I did it. You fucking did it.

I thought my glasses were broke. So basically, I looked up at the sun and I didn't see anything different. And I was like, I don't think it started yet. Everybody's posting these pictures where it looks crazy dark. Oh, because different locations. It just see the sun. It only did that in Texas.

It got crazy. No, I'm saying in New York. I ain't see that. They're all taking pictures through the sunglasses. Oh. I didn't know. So they sent me these pictures and I'm like, is this shit only in Brooklyn? The fuck is the wrong with the sun in the head.

Oh, got you, got you, got you got you. So I didn't realize in order for the sunglasses to work, you have to stare directly at the sun. That's right. Everything else is black. Then obviously I figured it out. I got mine from NASA. NASA sent me like three pairs of glasses. That's insane.

Shut up. They did. I should have bought the letter. Say what? NASA sent me three pair of glasses, yo. NASA, I'm not even joking. Am I lying, Taylor? They sent that shit express to the motherfucking radio station.

That shit got delivered on a Saturday. The mailman had to sign for it, bring it down. It was these three motherfucking glasses from NASA. Damn, I should have bought them shit with me, yo. Yeah. Y'all think I'm bullshit. You are? I promise on everything.

All right. Anyway, so NASA gave me some fake glasses. NASA gave me three glasses. And that's what NASA's up to right now, man. Send the glasses to the breakfast. No, they sent them to Charlotte. So you know what I got? I got some glasses from Space Force.

I'm not even joking. Jealous? Jealous? I even shouted the young lady out yesterday. Jealous? You're jealous. I look right through my cowboy hat. This is how I watch the fucking solar eclipse right through the cowboy hat.

Hey. What's up with the cowboy hat? What's the significance? Taylor thinks that Blackfield. invented country music now. She can't just accept that black people are dick riding country right now. It's probably because she read this book. What is it? My Black

Country, a journey through country music's past, present, and future, which is in bookstores right now. That seems like a good setup. Can we burn this, Chris? Can we get to the bottom of burning this book? Thank you. We have to rewrite history. This is terrifying. Excuse me, this is terrifying. Please. Salute to my guy, Bobby Bones. Bobby Bones, you know,

he's the big nationally syndicated country radio personality. Of course we know Bobby. Yeah, and I mean, It's like, the fuck does he know about black country music? The banjo. The banjo is an African instrument. The banjo is literally how country music started. The banjo. The banjo.

Look it up. I don't know if it was. Yeah, I'm telling you. Google it. Banjo. How you spell banjo? Oh, is this, this is written by Alice Randall? Alice Randall. She's a professor at Vanderbilt, and she is the first black woman to ever write a number one country record.

She wrote up a tricking year word. Yes, banjos. Few musical instruments are more deeply connected to the American experience than the banjo. The banjo was created by enslaved Africans and their descendants. White people can't event nothing, huh? And their descendants in the Caribbean

and colonial North America. Here they maintain and perpetuated the tradition with a complex system of slave labor camps, plantations, and in a variety of rural settings, rural and urban settings. From the earliest reverences in the 17th century and through the 1830s, The banjo was exclusively known as an African-American tradition with a West African heritage.

Stop. What personally distinguishes the banjo was that it did not come from Africa. Nobody cares. As in the unaltered tradition. Aoki Lee Simmons is dating an old guy. I'm just telling you. Listen, you're not going to take country from us. All right, white peel invent a rap, Shakespeare.

Well, white peel invented a rap. Look up the name of Taylor Swift's next album. Shakespeare. This is what y'all don't know. What? Brilliant Idiot's exclusive. I'm not even supposed to be saying this. But I'm putting it out there.

Beyonce and Taylor Swift got a whole plot. Talk to me. To fuck up the game of music and America. What? Why do you think Beyonce... Pull up the name of Taylor Swift's next album. Pull it up, Taylor. Beyonce just dropped the country album called Cowboy Carter.

Okay. Right? Taylor's about to drop. What's the name of Taylor Swift? next album. Look it up. What is the... That's not... That was her last album. What is Taylor Swift's next album?

She's dropping in May. Put Taylor Swift new album in May. Taylor Swift new... What's it called? The tortured poets department. I know. The tortured poets society. The tortured poets society. Department.

The tortured poets department. What y'all think she will be doing? Rappant. Rap rap rapping? Ha! Taylor Swift about to fuck him up. Beyonce dropped the country album called Cowboy Carter. Taylor Swift is about to drop an album called what?

Tortured Poets Department. It's going to be a rap album. Brass, bars. Why not? Bars. What do you mean? Why? You didn't say why when Beyonce dropped country.

He's not a rapper though either. Don't matter. Don't matter. She's doing white shit, so now Taylor's going to do black shit. Beyonce went to a genre and Taylor's going to another genre. And it's going to be fired. And nobody got to be fired. bars like her. And it's smart to call it poetry

so she don't have to write. So she don't have to... Exactly. Right. Exactly. She's rhyming her ass off. Bars. I heard some of it. I'm not even joking with y'all think I'm bullshit. I heard some of it. She's rapping her ass off. Tell me. What you're hearing? What you're hearing? Listen to me. Tell me. Bars. Bars. I don't know who the fuck she got writing for her,

but she's snapping. She's snapping. She writes her own shit. She writes her own shit. No, no, not to use rap. Tracklist for the new album? My boy only breaks his favorite toys. Oh! Who album is Post Malone on right now? Talk about it.

Who album is Post Malone on? Talk about it. Beyonce. Ha! Dunts. Okay. The Torch and Poet Department. My boy only breaks his favorite toys.

Down bad. Yeah. What else? No Long London. But Daddy, I love him. Fresh out the Slammer! You think that's not gonna be a rap record? That's a rap record.

Fresh out the slammer. Also, Butt Daddy with two T's. It's crazy. Why should you spell butt daddy with executive produced by? Diddy did did did did did daddy. Okay. Yo. All right.

Hold on. You skip over side seat. Side seat. Guilty as sin. I mean, that's definitely. Come on. Who's afraid of the old me? Definitely.

I can fix him. No really I can. What's that one called? L-O-M-L. Love of My Life. I'm trying to think which one I heard. Scroll down, Taylor, side D, I can do it with a broken heart.

The smallest man who ever lived. The alchemy is produced by the alchemist. That's the one I heard. 100%. It's produced by the alchemist. And what's the other one? Sierra bow wow. That's what I said, right?

What does it say? Clarabow. And the bonus track is the manuscript. It is a duet with her and Beyonce barring it up. It's just straight barring it up. It's right. Jay to Kis Stiles P shit. That's it.

I thought you could say first person shooter. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I mean, first, first of course, they weren't going back and forth. Like, Stiles and Jada go like bar for bar. Like, Kale and Beyonce are going bar for bar. But just remember you already did first. Beyonce dropped the country album, Cowboy Carter. Take over for him.

Taylor Swift is dropping a rap album called, what's it called? The Department of Motivier. What is it? The tortured poet's department. I'm saying like that hater. This is a rap album. Why? You sound like white people talk about

Beyonce in country. Why? No, I don't. No, I don't. Yeah, you do. No, I really don't. Yeah. Because Beyonce...

I can say, yeah, more times you can say no. Guarantee and Andrew can exhaust you before you exhawn. Yeah. Guarantee. Come on. Come on. You don't quit. I quit first.

I already made a song before, and that's what you're going to be. gave her Um, nah, you lost already. The daddy's little girl, that was a country song already. You lost already.

What did you call her again before the pod? The incredible boat. I feel so safe with Taylor. It's 76 degrees. We're taping this on Tuesday. It's 76 degrees. Taylor got the guns out. You really do got to have guns out.

Girl, girl, you're a cowboy. You know what I mean? Look at you my little ranch hands. And Joe. For real. I got out to tell.

I'm going to be bumping that shit all springing at all summer. Tell, we need that flex. We need that flex for the camera. Guys, come on. Put pressure on. You got a steroid. Yo. No.

What? Don't do that. That's a trigger for me. You know what? Because when I was in elementary school. They thought you were on steroids? Yes. So, you're bigger than them.

No way. It's like, but I had more buses than them. It's crazy. You ain't been bigger than nobody. I'm dead experience. I have one of my sister in the waypoint. They'll just be making shit up. I'm dead assing.

He makes shit up and we believe it. Every week, we believe it. I promise you. They called you young steroid in elementary school. No, you were only coming young, you always put the young in front of it. But they just called you steroid. They call you steroids. No, they'd be like steroids.

And then they were you mad when I took him in the night. The incredible bulk, man. The incredible bulk is. The incredible bulk is. in the building. Damn. No, for a little. I used to

I used to mad diesel when I was younger. I believe it. I used to ask my mom. She used to go on the monkey bars

and then just like, come on. What the fuck with your mom? Come on. Don't make me. Come on. It might have been

something in the food for it. Y'all got just chill with all that. You were doing pull-ups on the monkey bars? No, I just was a very energetic kid.

So I did Olympics. I'm not Olympic. I'm sorry. I did gymnastics. I did gymnastics. I did gymnastics a lot and stuff. So, what grade was this?

I'm not to school All right All right cool Shout out to Taylor Pann Yo Speaking Where we want to start I don't know man

But Taylor Yo first of all We love you We appreciate you That's it All we ask You take it easy On that keyboard

Pushing your fingers To the goddamn Computer Like you're gonna break something You really are You need to chill out Does that say Power to the what

Power to the Holy Ghost What is that I don't want to say All means necessary Go to J-Cold Respond's man Okay Let's get right to it

Yo Let's get right to it Let's do that. Jay Cole. Let's hear what Jay Cole. This is Jay Cole in response. This is Jay Cole at Dreamville Fest. This tweet is.

This is my 911. This is my 9-11. Oh, this is my 9-11. Oh, come on, Sean. I don't know. I didn't see the slash. Let me hear it. Let me hear it, yo.

One, I know my heart. You know what I mean? And, like, I know how I feel about, my peers, these two niggas that I just been blessed to even stand beside in this game, let alone chase their greatness, right? So I felt conflicted because I'm like, bro, I know I don't really feel no way, but the world want to see blood.

I don't know if y'all can feel that, but the world want to see blood. So I say all of that to say, in my spirit of trying to like get this music out, I ain't going to lie to y'all. I moved in a way that was, that I feel, spiritually feel bad on me. Like, I try to, like, jab my nigga back and I try to keep it friendly.

But at the end of the day, when I listen to it and when it comes out and I see the talk, that shit don't sit right with my spirit. That shit makes me feel. That shit disrupts my fucking peace. So what I want to say right here tonight is in the midst of me doing that and in that shit,

trying to find a little angle and downplay this nigger's fucking catalog and his greatness. I want to say right now tonight, How many people think Kendrick Lamar is one of the greatest motherfuckers to ever touch a fucking microphone. Dreamville, y'all love Kendrick Lamar, correct? As do I. So I just want to come up here and be like, publicly be like, bro, that was the lamest, like, goofy as shit.

And I say all that to say, it made me feel like 10 years ago when I was moving incorrectly. And I pray that God align me back up on my purpose and on my path. You know what I mean? I pray that my nigger really didn't feel no way. And if he did, my nigger, I got my chin out. take your best shot i'm gonna take that shit on the chin boy do what you do you know what i mean like all good like it's it's love and i pray that you know i pray that y'all are like forgive a nigger for like the misstep and then and then i can get back to my true path because

i ain't gonna lie of y'all past two days felt terrible what's your thoughts yos um okay i thought okay there's this conversation like who's the best in the game it's is it kendrick Drake or Jay Cole. First of all, I'll listen to Jay Cole, do features on songs, and I'll be like, holy shit, this guy the best rapper alive. He's so fucking talented. He's amazing.

He also seems like incredibly likable dude. He seems like kind, good-hearted, like has people's good intentions on his mind. So there's all this positivity around him. I don't really think he has any enemies. Most people like working for him. He likes to uplift people. but I've never thought that he was really in the conversation with Drake or Kendrick. And furthermore, I don't think he really wanted to be number one.

Like the analogy I made a flagrant was like, it was like Snapple. Like Snapple likes being number three. It made a whole marketing campaign about being number three because you could take chances with number three. Also, within his fans, he's number one. And that's all he cares about. And I think that he's actually in a position that it is. is way more emotionally satisfying. Trying to be number one

is trying to convince people that don't even like you to acknowledge you're the best. I don't think anybody even tries to be number one. I think you compete. I think you compete. You put out your best material

and people crown you that. Now, I think once you get that, you want to stay there. But I don't think you initially start like I want to be number one. Fair, fair. Maybe not initially start. Right.

But again, I don't know Drake personally. My assumption is Drake knows he's number one and he likes being number one. And at some point in his life, he's like, I want to be the undeniable greatest rapper alive. And then he went and achieved that. Jay too. I feel like Jay at some point said that.

That's why he put out an album every year. 100%. He stayed in the mix. I'm talking about a decade or better. Without a doubt. So I think what happens is Jay Cole was truthful. Like he missteps. He did something to try to achieve a thing that he actually doesn't really want

and putting himself in that line of fire for a thing. he doesn't really want was emotionally unsettling. Again, this is pure assumption. I don't fucking know the guy at all. But he realized, oh, this is not the life I want to live, where I'm worried about a disc track coming out. I'm worried about what the internet says. I'm worried about all this public scrutiny.

I like being snapple. I like chilling in the cut where everybody loves me. Everybody thinks I'm great. Everybody thinks I'm underrated. And they just keep on saying how amazing I am. I make tons of money. My fans think I'm number one. So that's all awesome.

The only thing that comes with this new achievement, if you will, is stress. I have everything I need without that. Fuck it. I'm pulling out. I shouldn't have done it. It's not something

I even want in the first place. I'll let those two guys who clearly want to fight for it. I'll let those two guys who clearly want to fight for it battle it out, but that's not up to me. What do you think?

I agree with everything that you just said. I watched it live because, you know, Nila and, you know, Waino and Speedy and Amber Grimes. They were doing the,

they were doing broadcasting throughout it. As I was just sitting at home and Naila was like, you're watching the live broadcasts. I happened to, I turned it on. And when I turned it on, Cole was performing.

It was like right before he bought out Earth Gang. So I saw the whole thing live. And as I was sitting there, it's two trains of thought, right? The hip-hop fan in you is like, oh. Yeah. But then I'm like,

nah, what's wrong? What he did? Like, because I'm listening to the words that came out of his mouth. He said, it bothered my spirit.

Yeah. He said, it made me real. realize how good I've been sleeping over the last decade. And here's the thing. You know why I bothered J. Cole's spirit? Because he lied. Talks to me.

Because he got on a record and said some things that he knows is not true. Said some things that he don't believe just to appease the motherfucking internet. Just to appease his boys. Not to appease himself. Not to appease the bloodlust of the internet. That's right. People that don't even care about him. His fans care about him.

Bro, it was ridiculous from the jump. First of all, he goes, Kendrick Lamar fell off like The Simpsons. Wow, a show that's worth like $40 billion. Now, I'm not exaggerating. Right. It's literally worth like $40 billion and has been on for 35 years. Please let me fall off like that. Like that, that's number one.

Then number two, the one thing you cannot make fun of in regards to Kendrick is his catalog. He's the guy that takes three years, four years, five years, to perfect, to create a body of work. that people will enjoy, and you may not get it in that moment, but eventually you will appreciate that timeless work of art. Good Kid Mad City is a classic album to me. The Pimper Butterfly is my favorite Kendrick Lamar album.

That's a classic to me. I think that album ushered in, you know, blackness in music again, like just in overall. What fucking we gonna be all right? Was the soundtrack for all the black movements from the time it dropped? Damn, I don't think damn is a classic, but I think it's a really great album.

Jay Cole said that. That was the peak of Kendrick's shit. So that means he thinks it was that. He said the last album was tragic. I totally disagree. I love Mr. Morale and the Big Stepplers. I've said numerous times in the future, they're going to look at that album and JZ 4444

as the two most important hip-hop albums of all time because it showed real growth. It showed real evolution of men. So I know Cole for the type of artist he is, the type of person he seems to be, you're lying to the people. You literally put out a bunch of narratives about Kendrick Downplayed his greatness as an artist

Just to appease these goddamn unheeled heathens on social media I know that didn't sit well with you And they'll never be appeased Never! Never! Never! Because they don't care about you. This is it, those aren't your fans. Your fans are the 50,000 people that came to Dreamville. That's right. Those are fans. And those people they would be totally fine if you're like, honestly, Kendrick is nice. I really like them too.

which is his genuine energy. That's right. I guarantee he probably looks at Kendrick and he goes, man, this guy's so fucking talented. Bro, they talked about doing collaboration novels together. He's always big-dub Kendrick. That's how I know you lying. When I heard the record, last week, I said,

he don't even believe what he's saying. He's only saying that shit for the internet. And you will always go wrong when you try to appease the internet. You'll go wrong when you try to appease anybody except for yourself. That's why when he said it doesn't sit well with my spirit. Respect. I don't got nothing else to say Who am I to tell him, yo, he's wrong

I want to see you battle this and that No, you want to see him get his head knocked off What do they tell you when you get in the boxing ring? If your heart ain't in it, get the fuck out of it if you get your fucking head knocked off Or more importantly, it's like, you know, what do people really want to see when you're watching a NASCAR race? What do you really want to see when you're watching Formula One?

That's right. You want to see the crash. You want to see the crash. A lot of people, they're not tuning in just for you to go around in circles. That's right. They want to see the crash. That's right. So they're not really caring about you if you're the driver.

That's right. You're just like dance. Entertainment me, clown. So imagine if Kendrick, imagine Jay Cole doesn't apologize. That's why he, one thing he said in there, he goes,

and you know, man, if you want to get your leg back, I got my chin out. You know what I mean? Yeah. Go ahead. Do you do what you think. Yeah.

Because he's like, there's nothing Kendrick said. Because Kendrick, we're going to get to that in a second. Cole just caught some disgrace. There's nothing Kendrick said. And you can't tell people how to respond. But why would you respond in that manner,

Cole? Yeah. All you got it. All Paul had to do was get on there and spit some dope-ass balls. If I was him, I would have got on there and been like, damn. Because it's like, Kendrick Glass albums about therapy and healing. I'd have been like, yo, sound like you haven't been to see your therapist in a while.

Boom. Like, yo, bro, let me, you might need to go talk to your therapist. Like, take that angle. Yo, that's fire. Like, you, I thought you was the healed one. Like, I would have took that. I would have took that angle. You sound a little angry on this record.

I would have went, I would have took that route, but kept it like just about rap for you to try to spin. in the narrative that Kendrick fell off, which is a lie, right? That his cataloging what it is. That's a lie. That was a whack approach. Very whack approach. Agreed it's a whack approach. Why did he put it out then?

Because if it doesn't sit, he felt that it didn't sit well with him two days after he put it out, I'm pretty sure he recorded that more than a shave of what an album came out. I think what didn't sit well with that was the reception of guy and how people were saying it was a weak track. And that's probably what it didn't sound. I don't believe that.

Like, I've done things. I'll tell you all the time about the time I played the Floyd Mayweather Audio. Yeah. I have no reason to play that other than I'm hearing 50 Cent and Jimmy Kimmel and Nellie and all the people talk about how Floyd can read. And I'm like, you know what? Fuck that. We ain't went viral in a couple of days.

Literally. We ain't went viral in a couple of days. Everybody in the studio told me not to play it. I played it. Soon as I played it, soon as I played it, soon as that energy went into the universe. It wasn't no backlash. wasn't nobody outside wanting to fuck me up wasn't nobody calling me in the office

to tell me I shouldn't have done that immediately me my spirit felt fucked up so immediately as soon as he recorded that verse or that song why didn't his spirit feel bad? Because he probably had a bunch of external noise around him

his boys in the studio other people he led here it he like yeah man put that shit out throw that shit on the tape man fuck that do that shit whatever whatever and then it's out And now you're like, fuck, two days go by. You start, and by what y'all say, when y'all say reception, I don't think it was a reception to the record,

because there's plenty of people who liked the bars. I didn't like them. But I think the reception is, man, these motherfuckers really are spending two days trying to downplay the greatness of Kendrick Lamar. Let's talk about that for a second, too. How these motherfuckers really just dick ride based off whatever their fucking timeline tells them to. How dare y'all all of a sudden start questioning the great

of Kendrick Lamar because Jay Cole lied to y'all. Jay Cole lied to y'all and told y'all this album wasn't good and that album wasn't good. And these projects that y'all liked, y'all started questioning. Then 48, this too, J. Cole starts trending. J. Cole 1, Kendrick 0. In less than 48 hours. Now, you ain't even in the big three no more, J. Cole. Jay Cole, you suck.

Jay Cole, you trash. What does that tell you about the era we live in? Fuck everybody, do you? Well, fuck these fickle motherfuckers. Yes, 100%. But I think what it speaks to is it's not that the people are fickle. It's that the people are doing exactly what you're suggesting the artist. The people just care about what they feel.

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And those people that you're talking about are probably Drake stands that want to make Kendrick radioactive, that want to chip away at Kendrick's greatness because Kendrick came at Drake. So when Jay Cole said anything, if Jay Cole said, hey, Kendrick, hey, you're a poopy face. They would go, he do got a booby face. Oh, I thought he looked like the shit emoji. Exactly.

And then they put that out there in the world because it feeds their emotions. That's right. But those people aren't Jay Cole fans. Those people are Drake's hand. And that's, I've realized how the internet works in a lot of ways, which is like, if you are championing, you've experienced this all time. That's right. If you even, if you champion an idea of one group, without even, you know, you know, been realizing that that group cares about it,

they will ride for you and rally. You say one thing that's critical of the Democrats. You can say 10 things that are positive about Democrats. One thing that's critical, Fox News, radio host Charlemagne, the God comes out in support of, blah, blah, blah, all the different groups. And then when you say

one thing that goes against what they say, those same organizations go, this guy, Radio host, Charlamagne, God, is out of his fucking mind. They don't care about you. You are there to either support or refute their opinions. And depending on what you do, you are a hero or a villain. That's right. And it's just, it's really interesting. That is, the internet has so many amazing things, is giving me a career.

It's definitely helped you with your career. I love it. It's incredible. But what it has done is emboldened these little echo chambers. And no knowledge, no information, no truth even has to enter the echo chamber. None. By the way, it can be right. It can be the truth. I'm watching Trump do this right now with abortion. Trump is like, I'm pro-choice, I'm pro-life, and I'm against abortion. And both groups are utilizing. He's putting three things out there.

I'm pro-choice, right? Are I'm pro-life, and I'm anti-abortion? He's got all of those things out there. And based on whatever you feel, you know Trump is pro-choice, no he's not, yes, he is, listen. Boom. You know Trump is pro-life? No, he's not.

Yes, he is, listen. You know Trump is anti-abortion? No, he's not. Yes, he is, listen. What do you do with that? Well, I mean, that's the most amazing thing about it. It becomes so easy to manipulate because based on the people that you want to manipulate, you can use whatever version of that person you want.

And the reality is those people that are being manipulated don't know enough about him to refute it. That's right. People just become heroes and villains in your world. So if you hate the Republicans, for example, the Republicans are awful. Trump is just this villain in your world. and there is always a reason to hate him based on what you believe. Absolutely. And the same thing goes for Joe Biden.

If you are somebody who hates the Democrats, there's always something Joe Biden has done to just infuriate you based on your feelings. Yeah, I listen to a montage somebody put together of Trump switching his stance on abortion throughout the years. And I'm like, you can do that with any politician. You can do that with any politician. You know, I can take Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and have them sound. like the most homophobic anti-gay marriage people. Like, if I wanted to.

Imagine us. We talk every single day for every single week for hours upon hours. You could take any single thing. Please don't. I mean, yeah, don't. Please, you've done it enough. How much more can we take? Yeah.

But I think it is interesting. Like, we were talking about this on, on, we were talking about this on, on Flager, but I think that this is interesting. I think we, our age group is very specific in the way that we can, assume information in that like our parents. I was talking to Joe about this a little bit. Our parents fall for phone scams. Okay.

For example, someone called my mom and goes, hey, by the way, you were offered a $10,000 rebates. All we need is your credit card information and you'll get that rebate. And if someone calls my mom does it, my mom might give them all the information and then they go run up charges on the credit card because she came from a time where if you called your house, you probably had a reason and they had your information. And there was a reason to trust it. We looked at those scams and we're like, how the fuck could you fall for this?

This is ridiculous, right? Right now, we fall for headlines. In the same way our parents fell for phone scams. It's disgusting. Right? We see a headline and we're like, Joe Biden makes Easter transvisibility day. Right? And we go, well, that must be true.

It's a headline. Do some reading. We don't read. We don't read shit. Right? But here's my thing. This is what I believe. I believe our kids and the kids that are alive right now

will be raised with the same scrutiny for headlines that we have for phone scams. They should. Because they're going to see so many lies and so much misinformation and that they're going to, because right now I'm at the point where if I read any headline that sounds even remotely too good to be true,

I know it's fake. So that's all they've known. All they've known are YouTube titles, their whole life. That's so interesting because they might grow up just believing their truth. And I think that's kind of where you should be as a human. I'm talking about your truth.

Oh, oh. Like the things that you know to be true, you personally. Just you. I'm talking about- But even that's manipulatable. But forget what you're taking in. I'm just talking about what you believe. Like, give me examples.

Like for example, you wake up in the morning, you know you're in your house. I thought you're talking about your truth. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just your existence. Yes, yes. Maybe that's what it's going to take. us just internally relying on our existence because we know everything on the external is

manipulate. Bro, this is, it's so funny you said it's like, on Rogan, we're like going over and over like how fucked the system is and, you know, the pharmaceutical companies are influencing government and all the CIA is doing all these things. And it's so daunting that you almost like drown in how much you have to change in order to like write the course. the reaction is either do nothing or, and I think you may be even spoken about this,

like the impact maybe that we should be trying to make is like locally. Like fix your community, fix your block, fix your neighborhood. Maybe after you fix your neighborhood, fix your town. Fix yourself. Yes, start here.

But then like, if you can fix on the small scale, you can probably really change and impact like your life and the lives around you. And then you would hope that that continues. But trying to go to the top and be like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to change the CIA.

I'm going to change the pharmaceutical. You're not. No. It might happen if enough of us try to do it, but maybe the goal should be changing the smallest thing and letting that disseminate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does that make sense?

Makes perfect sense. Ooh. You're a Karen? That's an interesting point. Like, by trying to complain and change the things in your local community, like there being too many black people, they'll call you a Karen. Is that what you're saying, Chris?

Maybe not that example specifically. Yeah, no, I mean, I look, my father organized a town watch when I was a kid. I used to drive around with a police scanner with him in the car. We were very... I knew you to fate. Local. Local, not fat. But like...

We did that. Like, he did that. And it was a sense of like, you're going to... This is the parameters of our community and, like, you take care of that. And I think now... Anyone who like kind of, look, I know with the Karen specifically, you know, there's another dynamic to it.

But like, I do sense that that is actually the right way to go. But maybe because of the internet, people are afraid to do it because no matter what you do in a lot of these situations, it's getting filmed, you're being judged. I think we got to stop worrying about it. The reason I say I think we got to stop worrying about that. The internet has become Karen's just crying about everything. They clip every little thing and cry about it.

You're a bunch of fucking white ladies banging on doors in the neighborhood. It's fucking, what is going on? Somebody asked me that earlier. They asked me about, you know, just how much I get taken out of context. Yeah. Right?

Literally. And they was like, and they was like, because you say things, like, and you have to know what the right is going to do with them. And I'm like, sure, but should that mean, does that mean I shouldn't say him? Yeah. Am I supposed to not critique the Democrats?

Am I not supposed to give my opinions on the, I'm not supposed to have these. conversations just because I know what they're going to do with them? Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Ten years ago, we didn't know what a hit piece was. Ten years ago, a news article came out about you and it was, we assumed it was the truth. This came out in a magazine.

This must be the truth. Now, we know there's such thing as a hit piece. Andrew Huberman is going through this right now, you know, the Dr. Andrew Huberman, right? But now he's like the most famous. doctor in terms of like disseminating research and new data and results about new methods for health and wellness and sleep and ways that you can be a healthier person.

He's, you know, getting a huge popularity. And then I think the New Yorker or a couple other magazines where I put this hit piece out of them. Didn't even research the person that they got the information for or from or knew about it and then actually omitted it and had they known they definitely should not have put this out but that will all be coming out or is already out right now. But anyway, the point is, now since we're so used to hit pieces,

we're so used to things we've seen, we seem to come out about Dave Portner, we've seen it come out about Rogan, we've seen it come out about all these people. Now there is such a thing in our brain called the hit piece. So the second we see it, we go, oh, this isn't information. This is a hit piece.

This is a specific piece made to make somebody look bad. And you have all these small hits. Like, it's not like one publication will do it. Now it's all of these different people online. So here's my thing. I wonder if we're in this age right now where there are people that are seeing things being taken out of context for the first time.

And they're just like, oh, this is the truth. This is who Charlemagne is. This is who Andrew is. These are who these people are. We're just the first wave. Once the internet catches up and it catches up fast, all of a sudden, all these videos will lose their value because the audience will start to go,

oh, this is that style where you take somebody out of context and make them look back to the clicks. Yes. Unfortunately, we're the first wave or the first generation of it. But I think after a while, the audience gets savvy.

Like those videos where they can, they'll take, like the Daily Show, I do a six minute clip on the Daily Show. They just take 30 seconds. They'll take 30 seconds, 45 seconds a minute and talk in between the things that I'm saying. You can create any narrative with that.

Bro, we did it with RFK. We had RFK on the pod and then fucking, who was it? It was Colbert and Jimmy Fallon. Both took it out of context, made the exact same joke. Like, RFK was talking about how he had horrible people over at his house. He's like, I had OJ, I had Harvey Weinstein. I had all these things.

Like, I was in New York at this time, and, you know, I was a kind of famous person. So people hung out. You don't realize they're pieces of shit until you find out later. I would have never invited them over it. I knew in their pieces of shit. That was his point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They go take out the part where he goes, they're all pieces of the shit.

I would have never known. and they just go, why are you bragging about having pieces of shit at your house? Oh my God. But the people will get savvy to it. I hope so, man.

And just like we stop trusting headlines we'll stop trusting the hit pieces. No, no, you're right, they will. Because even when Elon Musk retweeted me from Daily Show the other day. That was sick. And the head, the caption was, and I mean, I did say it.

I can't act like I didn't say it. I was like, I was talking about corporate, I was talking about DEI initiatives in the workplace. Yep. And I was saying how a lot of them are mostly trash. They're performative. you know, it's a lot of symbolism over substance, you know, yada, yada, yeah. Protect the company, not protect the actual people.

That's exactly what it's about. And I said all of that. It's about protecting the company, not protecting people. So he retweets that and it's that Shalame and God says, DEI is well-intentioned but mostly garbage, right? So you see people in the comments saying, Elon, he's calling you racist in this piece, bro, which I didn't say Elon Musk is racist,

but I guess they're saying Elon Musk types. So it's people that know that what y'all is. think this is, it's not. But what scares me is when you see the smart people who you think should know what it is, still take it and manipulate it for their own game.

Because that's really all it's about. It's not about really trying to put the correct information out there or move the conversation for it. Because at the end of the piece, I go, look, I don't know, I know real DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion.

It's going to come from real black leaders and real black movements. I don't know how to do it because I'm not a black leader. So you know what I would do for the people who are in that space? Take that baton and elevate the conversation. That's it. Instead, they rather turn it into a Charlemagne hit piece because that's what garners them clicks.

People like conflict for clicks. I mean, it just is what it is. The lowest compromise. If you can't create, you have to destroy. Yep. Right? If you want attention but you don't have the ability to create, you have to destroy. Instruction is the easiest form of entertainment, right?

If there's a fight on the street, we're going to go. go watch it. If somebody's lambasting somebody on the corner, we're going to go check it out. If there's a video exposing somebody, we're going to go watch it. This is just what we're drawn to. If you could create, you would never do that because the satisfaction you get from actually making something

yourself is amazing. It's the serotonin rush you get. And there's people who just simply had smoke for Elon. Don't like Elon. So if Elon retweets it and agrees, they have you. Fuck me. We got to make him radioactive, so it doesn't look like he's making sense. But you could still say

fuck Elon if you actually listen to the piece instead of probably just looking at the head looking at the clip like Elon probably did. I don't think Elon listened to that full six minutes. Maybe he did, maybe if he did, maybe he didn't. But if he did it, if he did it, if you did, then you can say, hey Elon, you're agreeing with this, but

you need to actually go listen to it. You can still make your point without saying fuck me. Yeah. But I don't have a problem with people saying, fuck me. We got here from Jay Cole, though. The moral of that story is I don't have a problem with Tray getting out the car.

No, no. This is... Do, let me out. Okay, so... What Cole was saying was, Drake, let me out. Drake, let me out. Y'all fight this out. I want to be number three. Ricky Day. I'm not in this, man. I'm not at home got the heart to do this.

I don't want to do it. It's not in my spirit to do it. I don't want to have to kill nobody or attempt to kill nobody. Drake, let me out. And I think most people won't, most people haven't been in that situation where they're in the conversation for being the top person. And he's probably felt the pressure

as he rose up the ranks in the rap world. And to me, I look at it and I have respect for it because there are certain people that the way that they judge their success will literally be, are they the number one in people's eyes?

It seems as if he's well adjusted enough, to judge his success by what he is creating and the people that fuck with it. And he will feel less successful if he goes out of his box to do something for people's approval. I agree. I don't see the problem with it. I mean, honestly, man, I don't have a problem apologizing if I feel I'm wrong, especially if that shit is bothering my peace. I tell you all the time, the best way to not disturb your piece is that not to disturb the piece of others. Not to mention if Cole and Kendrick were actually friends, like I believed them to be friends,

if I'm Kendrick and I'm hearing this shit, in my mind, I'm like, oh, you fake his shit. Because think about how many times he probably then told Kendrick how much he loved these projects. Yeah, yeah. I love this, the pimple butterfly shit, yo. Oh, my God.

I love, damn, yo. I love your last album. Thank you. You think that Cole wasn't saying that, De Kendrick? So if you've been saying this shit to Kendrick and holding me in this high regard, and then I hear you tell me,

I fell off like The Simpsons and my catalog is whack I'm like, yo, you fake his shit. So for him to get out there and do what he did and apologize and say, I ain't mean none of that shit, I just got caught up listening to all these external you know, outside voices. I get it.

I'm not mad at it. And no way shape or form. I just wish you didn't put it out because it's almost like you get fouled hard in basketball and then you slap the guy and then you tell him, yeah, yeah, chill, chill, let's not fight. No, it's not what happened. It is, though.

Kendrick fouled him hard. No, Kendrick shot the fucking block up. Cole K slapped them. No. And he's like, yo, we shouldn't fight. We shouldn't do this. No, Kendrick shot the fucking block up looking for Drake. All right.

Cole happened to be in the house. Cole got his pistol. Cole threw some shots back. And realized, let's not shoot no more. And then realize this shit don't feel right. I'm shooting at my partner. And I'm not about to die for this nigga from Canada. Because he ain't even out here on the front line for me.

That's the conversation people need to be having. Where is Aubrey Graham? Where is Aubrey Graham? Trey Dun got out the car. When Trey got out the car, D'Oboy went in the hands with his business. Aubrey Graham, it's time to stop riding around, okay? Chubbs in the passenger seat.

It's time to stop riding around and either get your motherfucking gun and go handle your business or everybody need to cool out. Because Kendrick has been bullying them for about seven, eight years now. bullying them from the BET Seifor when he threw shots at Drake, the King Coonter when he threw shots at Drake.

This whole, this last shit he did, that was all Drake. First person shooter is Drake's song for all the dogs getting buried. Okay? Pet Cemetery, all of that shit like that. Drake, it's time to handle your handle. Now, if those two want to go adding on some friendly rap battle beef, cool. Because they've been circling the block around each other forever. Right?

If they want to go have a friendly rap battle or competitive rap battle that we know is not going to lead to anything It's just going to be rap They can go do that I'm not mad at Jay Cole deciding I don't like it in my spirit I don't want to do it

By the way, if Drake said that I wouldn't care If Drake said right now I'm not doing that Also who wants Jay Cole to beef with Kendrick Why it can be a beef though? Who wants them to battle with Kendrick? There's nothing there If you're a Jay Cole fan

The chances are... Nobody wanted that match. No. Yes, they did. Nobody wants Jake Cole, Kendrick. If you were a fan of... No, they did not. Yes, they did.

Oh, they didn't. Stop, stop, stop. Nobody wants that. You weren't talking to the same people then. Taylor, Taylor, Taylor, Taylor. If you're a fan of Jay Cole, you're a fan of Kendrick. Wait, it's always...

Hold on, one second. Let me just, let me just get it out. If you're a fan of Jake Cole, you're a fan of Kendrick. There's not... I don't know if there's a single person on the globe right now that loves Jay Cole and doesn't also love Kendra. No, you're absolutely right, but I'm just saying they're both lyruses

so I feel like it's always been like who's the better one. At least that's the conversation that I've had. You know why Kendrick and Drake are so perfect because it's like Jay Z. Nas. It literally is like Jay Z. Nas. Because you have two people who are actually really good emcees. Let's not get it fucked up. No, no, no, no.

One of those MCs has had some incredible commercial success. Commercial success that we've never seen. Kendrick has had a lot of good commercial success too, but he's more so still looked at as the purest, The artist. It's Michael Jackson and Prince. It's Michael Jackson and Prince. I'll tell you something.

Prince would be, Prince would be Kendrick to me. Yeah, that's what it is. Prince would be Nause to me. No, no, but Michael Jackson has the commercial success. Gotcha, got you. But Prince is probably the more respected musician. Even though he's got a lot of commercial success,

he's still respected artists. But people would go, oh my God, this is the artist, and then Michael Jackson is the mainstream success. Everybody loves the music, and his music is ubiquitous. You see it everywhere. Whereas Prince are like, okay, he's a little bit more artsy. He plays all of the instruments. He does these things.

But having that competition where they're both going at it, of course there's a bloodlust for that. Well, you actually want to see it. Who is better when it goes down to it? But Jay Cole, it's like, buddy, you don't need to be in this at all. No reason. There's no reason. And nobody respects you less for not being into it at all.

If you're not into it, people still go, Jay Cole might be one of the best out there. Like every time you hear him rap, you go, this guy might be one of the best. And now he took himself out of the conversation. No, he did not. Yes, he did. But he was never really in it.

Yes, he was. If you all feel that way, you'd never like Jay Cole to begin with. Because nothing has changed. None of his albums have changed. That's what I'm saying. Nothing about Jay Cole has changed. But he's put it this way. We never had him at number one.

Here's the thing. To his fans, this is why I'm saying he gains nothing. To his fans, he's already number one. He's already number one. And he has devout, loyal, loving fans. So doing this battle is for the casuals, and it's just like, why do you need their approval so much? I think he's so self-reflective.

And it's actually such a beautiful thing to see in an artist, someone who doesn't have like this deep down, empty void that needs to get filled by every single person on the planet loving them, someone who's grateful for what he has, and can go, you know what, I don't need to fight for more from people who actually won't fight for me.

I have to love the people who love me. He won. I think you're off against him. What are we forgetting? Because even you with hip hop. No, I said hip hop's always been competitive. Exactly. It's always been.

I'm better than you. And that's it. And what I got to do with? Here's the thing that people say that's so stupid to me. It's not stupid. It's not to me you just lie, right? We'd be like, hip hop is so competitive. Sure.

How many of these artists have you seen go at each other? You can name them. But Kendrick also said it, though. Said what? He said in an interview that he said, you know, he's looking at hip-hop as a competitive sport. Like, he just wants to- Yeah, but competitive don't mean you grab a microphone,

I grab a microphone, and we go bar for bar. Competitive mean, I'm going to studio, make the best possible material I can make, and let the people decide who's the illest. Like, there's more ways to compete. I mean, there's always been battles. Name all the battles you've seen in your life. I'm just saying there's been battles in hip-hop as well.

Name them. We have Jay-Z Nas. We have... Drake and Mick Mill. And you also love... That was very one-sided. And you love that Drake. Drake did that though.

You're like, this is what him was about, blah, blah, blah. So then now you're getting... But here's the thing. It was real. You know why it was real? Because Meek jumped out there and challenged Drake's pin. He said Drake don't write. And Kendrick's been trying to challenge.

Kendrick did not challenge Cole. Yes, he did. No, he did it. Yes, he did. He said, motherfucker the big three is just big me. No, he also said he walked around this stick. You're not going to, you're still not, Andre 3K. He's coming to school for that.

That wasn't about Cole? Yes, it was. You were the one showed me the video. When they said they showed Drake. talking about the sticks and all of that. No, they were talking about Cole in that part. No. No.

Like, yes, he was. Drake got the shots in that. And Drake has been getting the shots for years. Exactly. There was no reason for Cole to jump out the way that he did, other than to say some slick shit in the rack. I think. Some slick, cool shit, like I'm better than you type of shit.

He didn't have to jump out in the way he did. I can see why that didn't sit well with his spirit. Yeah. Because he was lying. I agree that he should be in the way. When I get mad at you, I'm going to say you're imaging trash. But that's a lie. Exactly.

And you would know I don't mean that. Exactly. You would know I'm only doing that to try to hurt your feelings. I'm not disagreeing with you about that, though. I don't think that Jay Kosher went that route of doing that. He should have been like, has he always boasts that he's the big guy and everything else like that. I would have said he sound unheeled. I would have said Kendrick sound like you didn't see a therapist in a while.

I would have went that route. On heel. Yes. I would say something. Well, well, not what he should do. if I was Kendrick and how you said that he should feel the type of way that Cole said that shit, I would take

Cole's apology and turn that into a whole thing. Why? Why? Why not? Cole is not what Kendrick wants Kendrick wants. Kendrick won. Kendrick wants Aubrey Graham. You don't waste another bar on Cole. No. Nobody cared about the cold

disc to Kendrick. It didn't chip away a Kendrick legacy at all. If anything it chips away a little bit at Cole about it goes away. Wasting bars on coal at this point when you know where the real war is is pointless. Drake is hiding behind the coal smoke right now. I don't know he's hiding. He's all of this uproar

all of this uproar that you're making about coal. Y'all should be putting that energy towards Drake. Drake, this man has been shooting at you for years. And he's a worthy opponent. You get you, you you ruined Meek Mill, right?

Meek. Right to this. That's all somebody called Meek, Twitter Fingers, to date. I saw what was the guy name one of his old homies. Called him Twitter fingers today. Okay? You can't do what you did to me

and didn't, like he really, in a way and salute to Meek, he repositioned Meek forever. He did. That sounds crazy. No, you're right. Because in a Twitter finger shit. And Meek can't help himself.

He really can't stop tweeting. It's the strangest shit. If somebody called me Get up, Brockin. Yes. If somebody called me Twitter fingers, I would have limited my tweets a long time ago. I would have limited him a long time ago. He can't help himself.

So my point is, Meek charged him. Meek charged Drake with the allegation of not writing. Drake responded with bars. Hey, that was a great battle. Drake won that fair and square. We made a song after it. Push the tea and Kanye tried to come at Drake. Drake came out with Duffy.

I still think pushing one, you know what I mean? But we forget about it. We forget. Yes. It's not one of those things. It's not a back-to-back. Because it never was who's better here. We know who's more successful.

It was never even a conversation. It was just like, yeah. Drake did something that is very rare air. And I think this is the other thing. This is the other conversation. This is what I think Drake is afraid of. I don't think Drake's afraid of Kendra. I think Drake's afraid of himself.

Meaning, when you do something like back to back, that's what people are expected. Tupac never made another hit him up. God bless him, he passed. Nas never made another ether. You know what I'm saying? Jay-Z never made another takeover. Like it takes certain things to get something out of you. I don't know if Drake can get to that level of back-to-back again.

Wow. I think he's competing with himself. And in his mind, he's like, if it's not back to back, I lose. I lose. And when he loses, he is, in my opinion, he has more to lose than Kendrick. He does. Kendrick has nothing to lose. Correct.

Like, I don't think, and again, look at me, I'm the most casual. You guys are, like, locked in, you're super deep into it. So I'm actually the person who can be swayed. I'm the swing state voter. Everybody knows who y'all are going to vote for. I'm the swing state. I don't think Kendrick is anywhere near, Drake in terms of the way their success is perceived.

It's not to say that he's not considered one of the greatest and people know who he is and they know his body at work. But when you're thinking of who's number one right now in the casual fan, I don't think, I think it's like, you use the right terms because you said how their success is perceived. Perceived. It doesn't mean that they're not that great. And if you guys are obviously super big fans, right? So you know the work and you're like, wow, this person is so skilled and he's so incredible.

And you see, the other part to that is you see all the fruits of Drake's labor. So you see the big house and you see the cars. Sure. And you don't see him. He looks like the super rap star. It's a great point. So you often forget how big Kendrick Lamar really is. You forget Kendrick has won all of these Grammys.

You forget, you know, Kendrick got a pull-a-sur-prize. I'm seeing Kendra do prison push-ups on a small lawn. That's what I'm saying. But he sold millions of records, sales out all over the world. He's a super, he's a rap superstar. Hopefully it doesn't come across like I'm aware. I'm just saying the casual, and the casual is who you swing in these types of things. You're not going to swing the super vans because, like we know from Jay Z, Nas, whoever you're in love with, you will justify to yourself that they won that battle.

That's right. So all the Jay-Z fans were like, nah, takeover was better. All the Nas fans were like, Ether's better. All the casuals went Ether. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the only person I think that can lose from this is Drake. Drake has the casuals around the world convinced that he is the number one.

He is, in my opinion. Drake can knock him off. I'm sorry, Kendrick can knock him off by beating him in this battle. Drake, all he can really do by engaging in this, the only thing he can do is confirm what his fans and the population already feels.

That's a lot to lose. Yeah. The win does nothing. The lose does everything. Yeah. That's pressure. And if Kendrick wins, everybody would be like, oh, we knew we knew he would win.

Well, the Kendrick fans will say that. And even I think some casuals, because casuals still don't look at Drake as hip-hop. You think? I don't know. I don't think. Oh, they see more of the singing. Yeah, yeah, he's just a big pop star.

Like that, but that's where Drake's advantage lies to me because, and that's why I said, you know, in a lot of ways, Drake is Jay, because of it's super success. And they've always been questioning, you know, Jay's hip-hop. not no more, but back and then, like, all of those super hip-hop guys who questioned whether Jay was really, really, really hip-hop. Like, they've always looked at Nause's that.

They've always looked at it as Kendrick is a hip-hop purist. Drake's not a purist, but I think he is. I listen to rap. I can listen to Drake until he's a purist. Yeah. So that's why it makes for such an interesting dynamic between the two. It's a great battle. Sounds make fights.

Their styles are perfect for each other. Styles make fights. Their styles are perfect for each other. So do we get bars from Drake soon? We should have gotten them. I don't want, here's the thing. Drake, I don't want Drake to give us no bars that he feels forced to give us. I only want Drake to give us a record if he feels it in his spirit.

Same way Cole said, he felt it in his spirit that he didn't want to. I only want Drake to do it if he feels it in his spirit. And Drake, you should only do it if you feel it in your spirit. But he's writing and everything out, like doing captions and everything else. That don't mean I want to write a dish record. Well, I don't understand why he won it, though, because, again, people probably thought Mick Mill was probably going to win that. Exactly what Andrew just said.

First of all, Drake, let's be clear. Let's be for real. Drake don't got nothing to prove. Let's also be for real. Kendrick don't got nothing to prove. Neither one of them got anything to prove. They're doing this just because they want to do it for the sport. Yeah.

Like, Kendrick is like, Kendrick been trying to eat him forever. Oh. Like, literally. Literally, Kendrick has been throwing shot. Now, unless they got something personal that I don't know about, I don't know. But Kendrick has been throwing shots at Drake for a while. There was even a leak track that came out

that people were saying was AI, and he was getting that big Sean, Drake, and all of them. So it's just like, yo, Drake, you know what he wants. I don't know, I don't know why he wants it. You might. He's the top. Like how y'all said, Drake is probably, like that's top, so, you know, Kendrick wants to challenge.

Maybe Drake just want the competition? I mean, Kendra might just want the competition. You know, so why is Drake scared that, though? Kendrick might feel like he needs that. Like, ooh, this, like, I just thought about this. You know, Jay and Nas went at it, right? So regardless of who you think won the battle, they both went for it.

A lot of people get at the Nas because they eat it. I still think takeover was better. But now I've got a body. 50 cent. Caught a body. Which I rule. You know what I'm saying? Kendrick watched Drake.

Get a body with meat. Like, maybe Kendrick won't one. Maybe Kendrick won't. Maybe Kierdraiguan. Also, like you said, the love Drake has for hip hop, whatever, I would think he would be like, all right, let's go. Yeah, but he already, he already tasted that, that, that, that he already burned. He, you know what it tastes, you know what the blood tastes like, you know.

He already caught a body. Did you see that video of that crazy-ass white kid who had killed somebody and decapitated him? And the cop was like, I saw the, you had something strange in your closet. Yeah, I had to turn that. And it was ahead. And they asked him why. And he just was like.

I just wanted to see what it felt like to kill somebody. Oh, my God. They're all crazy, man. In rap, you might feel like that. In comedy, you never looked at a roast. Like, sometimes you don't ever look at, like, Jamie Fox roast. When he was roasting the brother Doug, the other comedian. I was watching Lavel Crawford and, um, and, uh, what's the brother name that played Brown on, um, David, uh, David, uh, David Band?

I think he was named David Man, David Man, Level Crawford was going at it. And they was going at it. Like, you don't ever look at a roast and be like, y'all want some of that action. I mean, you know what I'm saying? You don't have to like. But no one's ever, for Kendrick to be the, like, big three, no one's ever challenged Kendrick. Why don't you ever challenge Cole either?

Yeah. What are you talking about? I think, but Cole never came at nobody, like, the only person I can think of is Waleigh at Wale at, but like, he didn't even come back Walee, really. That's how Cole should have approached you. That should have been his tone. If he was going to come back, Kendrick, his tone should have been like how he did on that record when he was going at Kanye and Walee, or how he did the joint.

where he was going at a little pump. Like, that should have been his tone. More condescension. More condescension. More, yes. But he can't condescend to Kendrick because he admires him too much. That's right. Yeah, so he was reflexive and he just didn't think it through.

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man. I really appreciate you guys. And I will see you guys all very, very soon. The Life Tour. Peace. Yes, you know what I'm here for. My Black Country, a journey through country music's Blackfass, President Future, by the good sister, Alice Randall

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Go get that. I'm thinking about looking for a professor that wants to do my white country in regards to white people's place in hip-hop. since Taylor Swift is coming out with a hip-hop album. That would only make sense, right? But I want it to be organic, though. I only want to do it if it's in my spirit. Well, is it in your spirit?

It is in my spirit. If I can find somebody who wants to talk about white people's place in hip-hop and having it coincide, it probably won't be out in time, though, because Taylor-Swiff's album is coming out like in the next month or so. That shit is going to kill. Oh, Taylor Swift's rap album. You know why it's going to kill?

Why? Because it's going to make a bunch of people angry. And it's going to make a bunch of people love it. And it's going to make some people who are on the fence about it. Just the people that can be swung either way, they're going to be like, I don't know. This shit comes flat. And all you're doing is creating a tsunami. And the algorithm don't know the difference.

I don't know. I don't ever want y'all to stop complaining about anything that I say. I don't want y'all to ever stop complaining about anything that I do. The algorithm does not know the difference. So go. Shoot. And I also want to tell y'all The second annual Black Effect Podcast Festival

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Did you see what Gerard said about Dave Chappelle? No, what did he say? He basically was saying that when he said this before, but he was like, you know, Dave Chappelle, his legacy is basically now when you Google him, it's just all trans stuff and, you know, basically he should do better. You shouldn't offend people, yada, yada, yada, y'all. And stuff like that.

Lo and behold, he's been trending the past 48 hours because he offended somebody. No. With a joke that's on his HBO reality show. And see, this is why I say comedians, If you're a comedian and you want to say somebody's not funny, cool, I don't have a problem with that. But if you're a comedian and you try to use the I'm offended angle,

it will always come back to you. Listen to Gerard Car, Michael. I sometimes joke to him that, like, my relationship is like that of like a slave and the master's son who, like, teaches me how to reap my candle. Like, yeah, he groans too because he's a good person. He doesn't like that fucking joke. I like that joke

That's my verdict I think that shit's hilarious Yes sir Maria Tornetta I don't know what that is Yeah That's a joke Yeah

I love Gerobit That's so goddamn corny Not even just because of the content And the joke The joke itself It's terrible But my point is He's getting backlash

For this Because it offended people That's why a comedian should never step out there and say anything about a comedian offending people. Because you're going to want that grace too. Yeah, I mean, everybody's going to be offended by something. It's just a weird position for comedians to take. Yeah, also this idea of legacy being important is quite peculiar to me. Well, I would say to Gerard, and I said this on Breakfast Club earlier today, I would say that Gerard,

I think you got to kind of focus on your own legacy. But yeah, but like... Because Dave Chappelle's legacy is solidified. But who cares about legacy? It's just like such a peculiar thing to care about. It happens. It's going to happen regardless. No, your legacy happens regardless.

And then people forget about you regardless. Like the second you stop, like, there are people that were the greatest comedians of all time that are barely even mentioned now. And then when they were alive, they were the biggest in the world. And that's the same thing with basketball. It's the same thing with hockey.

It's the same thing with radio. It's the same thing with everything. think because it's not as many outlets. It wasn't as many outlets back then to record what they did. No, sure, sure. But what I'm more saying is like the level of narcissism that is required to worry about what the people will think about you after you're dead and for generations beyond that is so astronomical.

I can't even conceive of it. Like I can't give a fuck what people think about me after I'm dead. Yeah. Like honestly, it's just as long as I'm creating, I care. because I'm creating it for their consumption, and I would love if they really love it. That means a lot to me. It makes me feel good.

But if you die and it's a guy out there that's like, yo, he used to suck my cock every day. I'm dead. I don't care. I'm dead. I don't care. What if God said, your spirit can come back real quick and handle something if you want to?

Guys out here telling you, telling everybody that entry is to suck cocks. If he says that to me, then I'm aware of it. It would really suck to not be able to do anything about it. That sucks. Not being able to do anything about it, very frustrating. But if you can do something about it, you're good. Legacy, the long-lasting impact, or it's two definitions,

an amount of money or property left to someone in the will, are the long-lasting impact of particular events, actions, et cetera, that took place in the past, are of a person's life. See, I don't have a problem with that, Schultz, because I want to be, you should hope, I think people are going to be laughing at you 30 years from now. You know, even if they just look at your old shit. If they do, that's awesome. What a fucking blessing.

That's amazing. If they don't, that's amazing too, because I'm creating the shit that I want to create right now. If you're only concerned about legacy, then you're not making the things that you truly want to create. No, you're right. And if that is your only concern, you're not creating authentically. If you're not creating authentically, then your legacy's trash anyway. If you're thinking about it is the problem. Because you're thinking about what the people want instead of what you want to make.

And to that point, yeah, I think Gerard does that. I think Gerard cares too much Again, I don't know enough about him to tell But no, I think he I think he cares too much And I think that I'm worrying about legacy He cares too much and tries too hard

Interesting Yeah Why do you feel that way? Because I think he tries To make people uncomfortable Like I don't think you try To make people uncomfortable Andrew Schultz is a fucking maniac

Who tries to find The best joke at all times And you might be trying to make people look at things, just objectively look at things the different way. But ultimately, I want you to laugh. You want to laugh. I feel in on it. That's right.

That's right. But the controversy that comes with that, the offending that comes with that, it's all organic. And more importantly, it's funny. If you're sole purpose to what you're saying, even just about legacy, if you're trying to make people uncomfortable,

it's going to always be cringe. always but listen if that's what you authentically want to do then that's great and i respect that and you get to live in that piece it's almost goes to like what we're saying about uh cole you're living that live in that truth that's great but the idea to worry about what people think about you after you're dead i i just i can't fathom that level of self-importance like hey can you imagine charlemagne what people are going to think about you when you're dead I would you give a fuck I don't care now

am I dead no you're here I don't be giving a fuck now I refuse to give a fuck I refuse to give a fuck I care for what your kids might consume my kids should know me

if there's what exactly like if your kids are swayed by a YouTube video your kids are swayed by a tweet that's right you failed that's right that is the legacy

yeah there's nobody who should know you better than your kids and your wife the people who actually love you had conversations with you, speak to you all the time. They know who you are.

They know what you're about. The people that usually talk about your legacy didn't even fucking know you. They got their own personal legacy for them. You know what legacy really means? Leg. A, C, Y. What's going on?

Leg. ACY. What does that mean? Nothing. I just threw that out there. And you thought I was going to dunk that. I thought you had something for it. That might have been the worst.

Alleyoop in the history of Alu. That was one of those alutes where you throw it up and I don't even jump. I just look at that shit going to the stand. Was that for me? Did you throw that up there for me? I could have flipped it if I wanted to. I'd be like leg, leg,

I see Y. Nope. Leg, I see Y. Nope. Save him, Taylor. Lake. Taylor, save him. Leg.

Yeah. I see Y. It's not I. It's a C-Y. I. C-Y. Save him. Save him.

Save him. Save him. Save him. I. Leg a C. Thela, you love interrupting for a new topic. Leg. Now is the time.

You want him to supper. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Leg. No, leg. A.C. Hell. If you tear to AC, you hurt your leg. So don't think about your leg.

So I did say something before about not caring about your legacy. But right now, you are destroying you. You are not destroying your legacy, but you're destroying whatever you have right now. We need to immediately cut that out of the podcast. You're right. Yo, I want to apologize for what I just said. It wasn't in my spirit to do. You know what I'm saying?

That shit did not sit right with me. I don't want to be able to sleep the next couple of days. Please forgive me for the legacy thing. Meek Mill, come on. Let's talk about it. Wait, wait, wait, let me play it first. Which one is this? I'll leave Meek alone.

I just want to talk. This is a learning lesson. I don't care about the wrestling shit. Yeah. Oh! Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about life, man. There are certain people who just need curb your enthusiasm-style shows.

Just turn the goddamn camera on and follow them around and let's be entertained. Meek is one event. Let me hear that. This is Meek. This is Meek at WrestleMania. And the rock is unconscious, right? Yeah. And Meek is...

Get up! A new better stuff introcom. Man, shout out to Meek, mother fucking nil. How did Rock not break character, though? How did he not chuckle while he's fake knocked out? Meek said, hold on, meek said, if you ain't come up watching Menace Society, you're not going to catch this. You're in the wrong culture talking. I grew up on Men's Society.

I don't get the reference. What is it? Get up! I'm watching. Minutes Society a million times. What is he talking about? I don't know. Get up.

Maybe he has a confused with a boy's in the hood or something. Oh. I don't remember. What teen in the minutes was he, the guys that get up? Well, maybe his boys in the hood after his brother gets shot. He's holding him saying, get up. I don't remember that, bro. From Nasty and I remember Ricky.

And I mean, they did try to get Ricky up. And Ministers Society, who fell down? The crack hair got shot and killed. Kane beat up that dude in front of the house. Is it when Kane got shot at the day? I don't remember. Meek, I don't know why it's inside a million times. I don't remember nobody sounding like this.

Play it one more time? Get up! He can't get off his phone. Meek got to get the fuck off the phone, man. Oh, my God, yo. There's another one? Oh, come on. This is fucked up.

Meek Mill says the rumors about him and Diddy is confusing. 12-year-old son. He's 12 with people saying his dad gay is sick now out here. His tweet, I don't believe. Oh, somebody tweeted about damn, Wale is a full-grown man, didn't Puffy dangle him from the balcony. Meek says, I don't believe no ditty story. Once they lied about me now, anybody tried to sexually assault? There's no way. There's no way. There's no way Hell, he actually, also, you got to, you got to read it how he talks and then it makes sense. Read it, Telly. You from Philly. Yeah. What?

I don't believe in. Gene was in a lie about him. He may turn six and a son, man. He'll be a bag on his spot. Hey, yo. And I don't know. That hell hell hell I don't care but talk. You know what I say, well. When people say his dad and gay, say now, you know. Listen, the worst thing hurting Meek right now is punctuation. So anybody try to sexually assault me, it will be a bang out on the spot.

He did this before too. That's what I'm saying, punctuation. You know how when you tweet something that gives you like 60 seconds to make sure? Mick don't give a fuck. Meek be letting them shit fly. He really does. Anybody try to sexually assault. assault me, it will be a bang out on the spot.

I think that's what the person is going for me. Yep, he want that. Jesus Christ. How y'all don't know that, L-O-L, I don't care, but y'all confuse with my son, he's 12, with people saying his dad gay, it's stick now out shit. I mean, that's true, man, you know, because his son is 12 years old. 12 was like, what, eighth grade? Yeah.

Seventh eighth grade, like... Oh, that makes me... These people are letting these jokes fly. It's true, though. He's not the first person to even tell me that who's in the public eye. I've had other people who are in the public eye tell me, the same thing. Like, yo, my son got to hear this shit or my daughter got to hear this shit. So I

understand. That's a real emotion. I'm not mad at me for, you know, saying that. All I'm saying is, that tweet didn't help. That's all I'm saying. Do you think he's trolling? No, I don't think Mick's true. I think me can't piss the fuck off. I think he was trolling this.

It would be so good. Like, it would make... Nah, he's not trolling. Meek pissed off, man. I mean, he's pissed off. He's pissed off. He's pissed off. You know? Motherfuckers is out here saying he gay. How can you not be tight? And then how can, yeah, now everything you do fits under that umbrella. That's the tricky thing for him.

And it's weird, right? Because, you know, and I've said this before, but I see a lot of people who be acting like they're so pro-LGBQ. But they're quick to weaponize sexuality against straight men. You don't think that's weird? Talk to me. It's just like, if you're pro-LGBQ, why would you want to call me? gay out somebody and I'm not talking about me I'm just saying why would you want to out somebody or call somebody

gay why is it a weapon when you want it to be great point I don't I don't get it too you're making too much sense right now yeah you're about to get a hip piece for me shut the fuck up and liberal's going to give a hip piece to you right now shut the fuck up what else we got Taylor what else we got Taylor gang

Taylor come on Taylor got her little shit all memes necessary we covered coal we covered what is this Tory spelling Tori spelling Tory spelling can't pee by herself. Oh, come on with all this. I remember watching 902 and no thinking that was such a beautiful human.

She's still beautiful. You went to Tori? That was your shorty from the show? Yeah, Tori was, Torre was beautiful. I liked the... Fox had them, bro. I like Brenda.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that was Shannon Doherty, right? Chanority, but I like when Tiffany Amber Theson hit the show. I don't even remember that one. It was a later year. So she was the girl from... What was that show when they were in high school?

Saved by the Bell. Which one did she play? Brunette from Saved by the Bell. then came on to Nile 2-0 looking crazy. Wait, Kelly? Kelly? Clayder's girl. Kelly Capowski. Okay.

I wasn't Slater's girl. That was Zach Shorty. Oh, the other one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. No, I do remember that. Jessica Spanow was Slater. Yeah, I do remember that.

Torrey Spelling lifts lid on toilet habits. Can't poop alone, sun watches. Let's hear it, please. What's going on with this? Why is this news? I don't want to be with myself. I don't know. And people are like, wait, that says a lot.

You should be happy with yourself alone. I haven't been alone. Like, honestly, like, I still don't poop alone. We're hitting an all-time low. We don't need to talk about story-spelling shit habits, okay? There's other things we can talk about. I will say this. The reason this is interesting to me is because the reason I think this shouldn't be a story.

Women never go to the bathroom alone. They always poop with each other. That's what I'm saying. Yes, yes. Great point. It's a fact. I got four daughters. My three daughters that are all two years, two years apart, three years apart, eight, five, and two.

They're doing that now. They go to the bathroom with each other. Like, it's the thing. Women love going to the bathroom with each other. Yeah, but at the same time. What? What? I feel like as I gotten older, it's not like that.

That's not true. I'm serious. I didn't see so many duck-lip selfies coming from bathrooms with you and all your home girls. Well, like the last post I've made, like that bathroom is beautiful. Am I? That's my name is. Y'all all, y'all love a bathroom. Y'all go to the bathroom with each other.

Yes, that's what y'all do. I was on an event. I was on an event. And I'm at a restaurant, it's not like that. Lies. I'm serious. That's such a lie. That's such a lie.

You know, one of your home girls is going to the bathroom. I don't know why y'all is. Not at a restaurant? That's not true. You're lying. You're telling them lie for no reason. Jay Cole, listen to me. You're lying for no reason right now.

You don't have to do this. Okay. What else we got? Come on, Taylor, gang. Tiffany Hatch. What? Come on, Taylor, gang. Stephanie had his ones to sell her drawers.

Nah. Russell Simmons responds. Yeah, what did Russell say? Chris, this is your niece. Joe. This is Chris Morrow's niece. He'll keep himons. Okay.

Russell Simmons, what does that say? Russell Simmons's daughter. What? I'm looking at Hollywood unlocks. Throwback for the first slide. Russell Simmons's daughter, a Yoki positive message after the internet, criticizing her for kissing 65-year-old restaurateur, Victoria Asoff.

Okay, all the dad girls in here? Girl dads. Girl dads? Dad girls. Dad girls. Now we're trans. Now we're trans. All right.

We got girl dads in here. All right. So let's say your daughter that was educated at Harvard, graduated at 20 years old, decided to use that brilliant brain and intellect, to married, not married, to date a guy 43 years or 47 years her senior,

what would you say? Chris? Wouldn't be my first choice, but I think one of the things you gotta learn is what do you mean? You gotta let these kids live. Now, you know,

obviously a relationship like that feels transactional, right? So why is this girl that graduated from the finest educational institution in the world having a transactional relationship with a man? I don't know. What a waste of an education, you would say. Well, you're not going to Harvard so that you can marry a millionaire and

I don't think they probably were talking about getting married. Even worse, I would prefer that it was true love. No, you wouldn't want them to get married. You want that? I would rather that than just being like, you're basically being paid to come out for the weekend, the same parts. What if he's a gerontos sexual?

I don't know I'm probably pronouncing it wrong A person who's attracted to elderly people Can I see that? Yes She's a Yeah, gerontophilia

Gerontophilia What if she's a gerontophilia? She's probably a gerontophilia So what if? I mean there's a clip Going around about her saying she wants to sugar dabbing What's going on at Harvard?

What's happening at Harvard? What's going on here? But seriously We don't take that in consideration What if she is? She has an affliction. Yeah, what if she's a gerontophilia? She's a tarantophilia.

We're so quick to be like, oh, that guy, the pedophiles. What if she's a gerontia? I don't think that he's a pedophile. No, he's not. She's a 21-year-old. I mean, listen. A 21-year-old? You're 63?

You're getting a 20-year-old? I mean, yeah, and that eight, yeah. He's a man. I think it's ridiculous to be 40-something years old. And you could have been, but listen, you could have. He's 63. But think about it. When you were 40-something.

I am 40. When you were. When he was 40-something, she was growing in the womb. Oh, yeah, she wasn't even alive. You know what I'm saying? Wow. Like, all right, that's wild to me. On both sides, I think it's wild for the guy to want to do that.

I think it's wild for the woman to want to do that. But, nah, it's not wild for the dude. The dude is the man. You don't want that in 40? The dude is, she's 21 years old. She's an adult. Let's stop acting. Like, she's like.

Yeah, you're right. He's actually, it's actually. It's actually, she's ancient. I'm questioning her more than him. Of course, what she's doing is crazy, but what he's doing is he's the man. Yeah, I'm questioning her more than him. A 63-year-old is out there banging a 21-year-olds? I get it.

I'm questioning her more than him. His group chat is going nuts. Hers is like, oh, my God, I can't believe people's told pictures. She's embarrassed. But she has a father that's like eight. That's why I think it's weird. Well, history repeating itself. Like, her father is much older than...

I'm not, of course, but it's just... Not that much older, was he? I mean, I think... Was your brother that much older, Chris? Who? Was your brother that much older than his wife? Your brother of Russell. What?

That's a brother, brother. He's his brother's cheaper, y'all. He don't know nothing. His guy don't tell for nothing. That's loyalty right there. Let's pay some bills to come back and do some asking idiots, man. What did he say? Didn't...

Wasn't the post-off? Oh, yeah. What did Russell say? Dan, you're right. What can he say? What can he say? I think he said the same thing. We just said what Krista says.

It said, shout out dude. He said throwback. No, that's something about something else. I mean, you just try to say something to make light a situation, I guess. I don't know, man. God bless. I try to mind my business. That ain't, you know, that ain't my problem.

And I hope it's a problem I don't have. Oh, my God. I sit around and talk to my 21-year-old. Prayer. About dating a 65-year-old. Prayers. Come on, man. Prayers.

What if it is? Nah, I'm going to St. Bart. Or a gun. I mean, what if it is? I'm going to gun. Are you doing, are you? I mean, what if it is?

I don't, what if it is? That's a great way to say that. I don't know what I would do when I crossed that bridge. We all say what we would do when certain shit happens. What would you do?

Right now, how do you feel? What would you do? I'd probably be trying to question what I did wrong. Or did I do anything wrong? You know what I mean? Did her mom do anything wrong? Is that her thing? Can I go get her tested for gerontophilia?

Like, I need to know what the fuck is happening here. You know what I mean? I want to sit down and have a conversation. I think that anytime you're confused about anybody in your life, I'm learning that with my 15-year-old. I know that what's happening to us over the, I mean, we've always had communication, but the conversations are just different now because she's 15.

She's becoming an adult. So the conversations are different. Conversations are turning to about college. and what she wants to do with her future. She's a boyfriend? That might be too personal. Not that I know of. I better not know about it.

But now, now. See now. I know, I have a conversation with my daughter and say that guy. I'm 60 years older. Hey, she's a boyfriend now? I'm still had a conversation. He'd be dead man if I knew he had a boyfriend.

I ain't say all that, but it's still a conversation. But it's just like, that's what I'm saying? I don't know. We got to stop back and like, we know what we're doing these situations. I don't know. I've just been told. And then maybe Chris, You can speak on this a little bit more.

And again, I don't know, but I'm obviously curious for my own personal reasons. But once girls reach the age where they begin to be sexual, it can often create a little bit of a fracturing in the relationship with a father because they feel like now they have to withhold something from them. Whereas before, they could share everything because their life is more innocent. And now once they become the sexual being, they don't feel like they can share those experiences with the dad. a lot of times dads are in position seems maybe you're in a little bit more which is like you don't really want to know that they're a sexual being

and now all of a sudden there's this division between daughter and father. I'm be honest, would you? I'm just saying that's what I've heard. My spirit don't agree with this conversation. I don't want, I'm not even joking. My spirit is a good comment. Look, both my daughters have boyfriends.

I don't know the first thing about the physical aspect of it. I don't think they want to have that combo, but we talk about everything else. But you, I mean, you're not dumb either though. So you got to, I mean, this is my perspective. You just have to keep communication open, no matter what the doctor is. You just have, and there are a lot of moments where, yeah, it's uncomfortable. I don't think any father is particularly thrilled about talking about boyfriends with their daughters.

But like the worst thing that can happen is the kids try to hide stuff from you. Right. And that's what I don't want. I don't want. You can't. You got to eat it. You want to keep the lines of communication over. But I want my kids to feel like they can talk to me about any.

and everything because we didn't, I didn't do that growing up. I don't want them to feel like they gotta hide nothing from me because this, especially in this era, there's too much wild shit to navigate by yourself.

Like, please don't, I'm your best friend, your mom's your best friend, and we're your parents, we love you, nobody gonna have your back like we do. I promise you,

the only thing that's going to ever piss me off. I tell my daughter this all the time, the only thing that's going to ever piss me off is the lies. Don't lie to me. We will figure any and everything out. Please. But Drew just asked Drew,

if your daughter had a boyfriend and you said, she better not. So that's what my reaction was. I really felt that way. Why can't we all have complicated emotion? That's the other thing the internet has done. The internet has created these motherfucking extremes to make us think you got to be this or you got to be that.

This shit is complicated. Yeah, it is. What happened to that fucking status on Facebook? Does that still exist? This shit is complicated. It's not one emotion. It's really not. None of this shit is one emotion.

Now you're right. Like all of this shit, all of this shit, you have to have some nuance to it. You got to be objected to it. You don't know what you're going to feel when the shit actually happens. You know what I mean?

Same thing going back to Jaycoe. Jay Cole probably really thought in his mind, somebody wants some smoke with me, I'm going to bring it to him. You didn't factor in. What if somebody you actually like? Somebody that you actually consider a friend. You didn't think that was going to be the person

that laid the gauntlet down, did you? Yeah. Now what? you didn't react the way you thought you was going to react. Oh, you thought you had the stomach for it. But you might not. You didn't. And it's okay.

I am perfectly fine with saying, I don't know. I'm perfectly fine with changing my mind. I'm perfectly fine with apologizing when I'm wrong. And I'm perfectly fine with going through all my emotions. My therapist says, feel your feels. All therapists tell you that you got to go through all those emotions. Stop trying to suppress them. Just go fucking through them.

Oh, shit. Shout out to the South Carolina Gamecocks, baby. Yes, sir. South Carolina Gamecox completed an undefeated season. They beat Iowa 8575 to win the national championship and complete a perfect season. Salute to the good sister, Don Staley. Don Staley, man.

Let me tell you all something. This is the third time the Gamecox of National Champions, okay? Don Staley actually should have six at the least five championship right now. What is that? They won

Asia Wilson's junior year. I believe that was 2017. Okay. Came back to the next year, they lost Asia Wilson's senior year. Okay. They probably should have won it that year.

But, you know, they lost, they lost. So, you know, whatever. But the one that they absolutely should have is the COVID year, they were undefeated. running through every fucking body, blowing everybody to fuck out, and the fucking season got canceled.

That was Alia Boston's sophomore year, I believe, and they came back the next year and won it for Alia Boston's junior year. Then they lost Alia Boston's senior year to Iowa. I think they lost by four points. Once again, I think the referees had a lot to do with that, but they lost. So it is what it is.

So at the least, you know, I'm not even going to say, at the least Don should have four, but she truly should have six. Because the COVID year, they absolutely was going to win. And last year, they shouldn't have lost the Iowa, but they did. So whatever. Yeah, go, go, go, sorry.

They've only lost three games. She's incredibly impressive. My God. Like, just hearing her talk, like, the way she handles herself in these interviews and, like, I don't know, I was like, she could coach in the league. She could coach in the league. I don't want her to. No, no, I'm not saying she should.

But, like, just her demeanor, the way that she approaches, the game, the way that she approaches the media, the way that she approaches, even like talking about the practice squad, she has those dudes that hoop with them, and she's like, yeah, they get rings too. Like, she's just so poised under control, the way that she handled Caitlin Clark, and the way that she gave kind of her praise

and, like, spoke, gave her moment. By the way, there was no reason not to do that. No. It was weird to me to see people trying to downplay what she was doing. Like, yo, Caitlin Clark is, that now, this is just my personal opinion. Yeah. I feel like the rise of women's basketball, especially on the college level, and hopefully it translates to the pros, that we've seen over the last several years.

I think the catalyst for that is Don Stanley. I think Don Stanley leaving Temple University and coming to the University of South Carolina absolutely created that. The reason I say that is because Don Stanley came. She changed the program. She kept the legendary iconic Asia Wilson in South Carolina. and you know, South Carolina is a place where a lot of those greats go off to play other places. Zion didn't go to the University of South Carolina. Jaya didn't go to the University of South Carolina.

Asia Wilson was the number one women's college player coming out of high school. She decided to stay in South Carolina. She could have went anywhere she wanted. She had decided to stay in South Carolina because she believed in Don. Asia Wilson, Don Stanley are the pillars to what we see as the South Carolina dynasty right now. It starts with them. And that tradition that Don created with somebody like Asia, and I think that the way South Carolina treats people like Asia

and treats people like Dawn, Asian Wilson has a statue in front of the Colonial Life arena right now. Oh, wow. A statue. Don is getting a statue, I believe, on Main Street in Columbia, South Carolina. So they really cherish the stars. They cherish their stars. So it makes the Leah Bostens and everybody else want to start coming there

and playing for this tradition, this culture, that they're building. And I think when you got Don and you got Asia helping the league rise, then what else happens? And mind you, I said it started with Don. I think Caitlin Clark, you know, co-goals to Iowa.

Angel Reese comes to LSU. All of these eyes are starting to get put on women's college basketball, started about six, seven years ago as these people who became the stars of the sport started to grow. When I was paying attention to South Carolina after, you know, after they won their first championship

and paying attention to women's basketball, that's what I started to see, you know, the Caitlin's and the Angel Reese's. I'm going to like, oh, these girls are really good. Page, Page Buckets. These girls are really, really good. And I think it all starts with Don, but I think Caitlin took everything

to a whole other level with her style of play. I think, I agree with you. I think there's a couple other components. Talk to me. I think Steph Curry, is the cause of the rise of women's basketball. I'm not mad at that. And in the way that Steph changed the game,

he changed the game in a way where it made it more accessible for women and that you could shoot in the way that Caitlin Clark shoots. Dribble past. And it was just exciting. Like back in the day, watching some girl post up and then, like, shoot a lefty layup was the most boring thing in the fucking world, right?

They can't dunk. They have no explosiveness. They're not powerful around the rim. And to be honest, in a lot of ways, like, we don't even want to see postplay, like, watching the Zach Edy guy, right? I'm sure he'll do great in the NBA, but he's not like, oh, my God, this is the most prolific player I've ever seen. You'd rather watch Zion fucking dunk from the free throw line in college, right? So the male explosiveness was great, but also Steph brought the game beyond the three-point line. And what girls showed us is that they two can shoot.

And when they were shooting, like Caitlin was shooting, like these other players were shooting, they've been incredibly effective. It showed us that men will also indulge in that type of basketball. Because it wasn't just women watching. Men were watching as well. You know what showed? I don't know you making such a great point, man. The thing that I marvel at. I'm the greatest misogynist ever.

It is unbelievable. The way that you was able to bring it back to the patriarchy. Yeah. The patriarchy is responsible. And by the way, no woman probably caught that. I'm sitting there listening like, this guy is one of the greatest upholders of patriarchy ever. If they weren't women, they would have been able to have.

He was like, he hid me giving these women these praise. He was like, no, no, no. He's like, no, no, the greatest, the rise for women's college basketball is step Craig. And you really, it's not, it's not, it's not a bad argument. Just wait to my next part of my point. If you thought that part, I'm listening. I'm all in.

Let's go. Let's go. They got, they got. Women's college basketball is the greatest because of the patriarchy. Because of the patriarchy. Because of the patriarchy, Steph changed the game and made the game more accessible for the way women play it. Women started playing it.

according to the way Steph plays the game, and they can actually compete the way the staff plays. They can't compete with the explosiveness, right? Okay, so we're right there. Number two, they started to get beautiful. I'm just being honest with you. There is a surplus of incredibly beautiful women that are playing the game,

and they are so much more marketable when they're beautiful. They're stunning these women. Now, there was always a few WMBA players that were stunning, but there weren't this plethora of absolutely beautiful women of all shapes, colors, and sizes. Stunning women running up and down the floor,

shooting threes from everywhere. Oh, my God. Y'all listening and y'all might be upset, but you know he's not lying. This is unfortunately. Instead of saying they're stunning, just say they're very marketable. Okay, that's better because they're very marketable women.

I was trying to speak too truthfully, but the reality is, Angelry's very marketable. Haley Van Liff or whatever, the blonde girl. Haley, Haley Van Liff, LSU, Cardosa, South Carolina, Very marketable. There's also a page, Bucket's,

is very beautiful. Raven Johnson. Like, yeah, I get what you're saying. There's tons of beautiful ones. Yeah, right? And so the overall beauty of the league is lifted. And unfortunately, the sports where women are more beautiful,

they get more eyeballs. And they play hard as fuck. I tried to watch men's college basketball. I tried to watch the national championship. I don't know who's playing. Zach E is the only one I know. It was Connecticut versus, I don't even know who the fuck they played.

It was so, I watched it. I was like, the first half was 30, 36. I'm like, turn this shit off. This shit looked like women's basketball 20 years ago. Yeah, exactly. Nobody cares. But the thing with the women being more marketable, as you said now, which is a perfect way of describing it,

much better than what I was saying, if you look at like women's beach volleyball, it's on ESPN. Because unfortunately for women, when they are more beautiful, it increases ice. It does. It's when women are more beautiful, we are more into the things that they're doing.

It's unfortunate, but the reality is their beauty mixed with their elite skill has made them more interesting than watching the men play. I think it's the elite skill first. Why are you upset? Taylor wasn't disagree, but she can't. No, no, I think it's the elite skill first. I do. I really think it's the elite skill first. and I've never thought women's basketball players weren't attractive.

Like, they've always been attractive. I just think that it really, truly is the elite skill set to your earlier point, that I will say, when I see Caitlin Clark, I see Steph Curry. When I see, when I see Malaysia Fawali of South Carolina, I see Carrie Irving. Like, they really do ball like them. No question about that skill. And all in all, all of their skill has. risen and the game has gotten much better, much more enticing.

But what is also risen is the fact that, like, they're all models now. There's all these beautiful women that are playing a sport. And when beautiful women do things, we watch. And then when they do things at an incredibly high level, they become superstars. Look at the Olympics. You see these athletes. If there's a beautiful woman in the Olympics, she will become the most marketable athlete on the planet.

You've seen it with that girl who was, she's fake Chinese and ended up snowboarding for them. She went to Stanford. Eileen Gou or something like that She was American And then she went over Really? She was American and then she She traded in her country

The fucking traitor But she made I thought you're about to say transition I was like I know you could do that She was half She's half Chinese Or something like that But then she ended up playing

But she was the most marketable athlete On the fucking planet She's a stunningly beautiful woman Who is brilliant But also incredibly good I think snowboard I don't know if y'all remember I said one time

I said that when you watch Women's College basketball it's like all the girls play like Steph Curry or Tim Duncan. Yes. And that is a very high level of basketball. If you know anything about Tim Duncan, if you know anything, of course you know about Steph Curry.

That is a high level of basketball. I love seeing these girls bang out in the paint. I love one of the Leah Boston bang out of paint, Aja Wilson bang out of the paint, Cardosa bang out in the paint. I love it. Like they got these big girls down low. They couldn't do nothing with them.

Iowa couldn't do nothing with Cardoso, yo. Come on that. Come on. He's speaking like me. All I'm trying to say is, do you think the NIL plays a part into it? Because now that they're able to be marketed a bit more and make more. That's a good argument that like

that they're incentivized. The companies are incentivized to make these players bigger. I also think the internet just blowing up. All of them have their own TikTok accounts and Instagram accounts. and they're blowing up like... It's attention. Like, yeah, if you... Like, this was the highest...

The South Carolina game versus Iowa was the highest, most viewed basketball game, men, women, or anything over the last five, seven years. It's like, they said 18.7 million people watch. And at the peak, 24 million people watch the game. It was great.

My group chats are talking about this, not the male games. And it's fucking awesome. And the girls should be stoked. And I'll be honest with you. The way that they're handling it Like, I've seen a lot of the press conferences, and there's, like, a decorum that they all have. That's right.

They are, there's an elegance that they all speak to it. There's that girl that I think it was Paige Buckbuckers. Page buckets. Page buckets. She was like, one play doesn't, you know, make a game. That's right. I should have played better in these other times. It was like a very mature approach to what happened in the game.

And you've seen it from a bunch of them, especially in losses. And it's like, I thought it was, yeah, it's really great. It was really great. Yeah, man. It's going to be even, it's going to be great next year because, South Carolina got Malaysia Fawali coming back Tunisia Johnson. Make sure that's her name, Taylor.

Shout out. Tesla Johnson or the Tessa Johnson. Yeah. Tessa Johnson, right? Shout out Steph for making this possible, man. I don't think enough credit has gone to Steph for making this beautiful game. But why do you think Kaling Clark changed the game too, though?

Yeah, Tessa Johnson. I knew you was going to be upset about that one. Caitlin Clark. No, I don't know. I don't want to. Because she's the greatest female basketball player. Why is he... Because that's how she changed the game?

She's... No, she just... How did Michael Jordan change the game? Yeah. She just shoots the ball incredibly well and from distance that most women just haven't shot from. Why do you think Michael Jordan

is the greatest of all time? Why do you think he changed the game of basketball? I don't know. Whatever y'all be saying. Because he's the goat. Caitlin is a fucking goat. Why do you think she isn't? Because she's white.

Because you're racist. You're a white person. I didn't. I'm the only white person you like. Do you think that the media was giving her to? much attention? Yes.

God damn. No, she, no, no. You made a point too. Like, even, even, no, there was a report that, you know, the, what they call?

The cop one. The gang cock won. But, um, I didn't say, right? Well, look,

they said that they won, right? But then had a picture of fucking Katele's part. What I was seeing in, but that's not, that's not,

I'm not saying it's her fault. You know what people, you know what people are forgetting? at the end of the game when the gamecocks were about to win a lot of people got upset because they put the camera on Caitlin, put up Caitlin's stat line,

all the things she accomplished in college but this was they forgot. Her coach called time out. So she could get that love. Her coach called time out with 20.7 seconds left pulled her out the game so she can get that applause and get that love. As soon as that was over,

they went right to South Carolina. And also like, right to the GameCoc. She carried all the scrutiny. She carried all the expectations. People are so curious about her and her journey, and they were more curious about her and her journey, than the GameCocks this year, whether that's fair or not doesn't matter. That's where the attention lied. And she brought the attention to that last game. And Dawn Staley mentioned that. That was beautiful that she brought that. And somebody asked me, they said, can we stop talking about Caitlin being white? And I said, no. And the reason the answer has to be no

Is because you stop talking about Barack Obama being black? No, we do. Do you stop talking about Tiger Woods being black? No. Will you ever stop talking about Eminem being white? No, you know why? Why? Because when you're a person that excels

Yeah. Somewhere where you, where usually your race doesn't excel, you will always be looked at in that way. They're always, because you're not used to seeing any player play like that, but especially some little white girl from Iowa. You're not used to hearing somebody rap like that, but especially some white dude from Detroit, Michigan.

You've never seen a black president. That is the reason Barack Obama is Barack Obama. If Barack Obama's not black, he's just gay. Right? I was going to say he's just another long line of decent Democratic presidents. He's the John F. Kennedy's, the Bill Clinton's, whoever. But because he's black, he's a whole fucking thing.

He's a history lesson. The whole thing. That's what I'm saying. Tiger Woods is the same way. You don't see a black man dominate golf like that? Yeah. So it is what it is. He'd just be another victim of a spouse or abuse.

He really would. Why don't we ever talk about that? These white bitches from Norway beating this shit out of American black. That's right. Wasn't Jonathan Magege's wife? You know what I'm saying? Well, ex-girlfriend. Suck that shit.

Norwegian? Right? Right? What happened with Al? Sweden. Trying to take down a black. They are racist. They are racist.

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Back is the Joker. Lady Gaga playing Harley Quinn. How fucks with that? What else we got, Taylor? Do we have any asking idiots? Oh, there you have some asking idiots. It's tell her. Tell her.

Tell her. This is crazy. We always have more prep for billionaires than we do for Breakfast Club. I love that. Chance the rapper's getting divorced. Is this the... Wait, I thought we're doing Ask an Idiot.

No, yeah. I just screaming that out. Chance that I'll get you before. All right. Asking idiots. Anika. This is a great question. It's a great question, Anika.

And that looks very close to Anunaki. Sluat al Anunaki out there. Hell yeah. What's one woman outside of your wife that you idolize for your daughters? Shultz? What's one woman outside of my wife? That you idolize for your daughters. That I idolize for my daughter.

I'll be honest, I don't really idolize people based on their gender. You know, but I think that there are aspects of my mother that I really admire and I want my daughter to know about. And my mom is incredibly hardworking and ambitious. Yeah, I want her to understand those things and experience those things. 100%. Yeah, but I've never thought of something like, oh, just, this is just a woman thing that she needs to do. What about like a role model?

Like my mom, for sure. Also, like my wife's mom, to be honest with you. Like everything that she's going through and her perseverance within it, 100%. Yeah. How about you? My daughter's got some fly-ass aunties, man. Like, it's a fly, really dope circle of women that are around my daughters. I mean, of course, you know, the grandmas speak for themselves.

This might care. I just wanted to show off this legacy of resilience jacket. The grandmas speak for themselves. But then it's just like, you know, it can be like my wife got a dope circle of friends. you know, I got a dope circle of friends. We're all friends. It can be anybody from like my wife's great college friend. We all have a great circle of friends.

We got some really dope women around us that, you know, our daughters can look up to. Because, I mean, I'm surrounded by women. You know what I'm saying? I'm literally surrounded by women on both sides. Whether it's all my wife's friends, like all her college friends, you know, friends that I've met throughout the business that, I became our friends like my daughter's just got a really really dope tribe of uh women to look up to amazing yeah nobody i don't want to nobody i don't want to nobody i want to i don't want to

say none of their names because all you unheeled heathens will start looking people up we don't need that away from my my energy we don't need that okay uh Vanessa alvarez says just found god any advice on forming a relationship with j c who is j c Jesus Christ. But you know his daddy now. So through his daddy, you'll learn about the son. I mean, yeah, what God did he find?

I mean, isn't he all? The embodiment of him. I thought God was the father. Jesus was the son. He is, but I think Jesus is the embodiment of God. The human form. So what are we? The Bible says God created man in his image according to his likeness. Flawed creatures when we are trying our deaths to live that.

Jesus might have been flawed too. No, he wasn't. And I think that's difference. I think we, I think that's what we tell ourselves. Yes, that is the mythology. Yeah, I think we tell ourselves Jesus was a perfect being. And by the way, he probably was, because we're all perfectly imperfect, you know? Like, why can't, why couldn't Jesus have flaws? I think that's what made him so special is that he's the one man that was not flawed and that we should also, we should all try to aspire to live our life the way that he would, even though we know we will fail. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not going to, I'm not a pastor. I just feel like, why would

God only make one model. Well, I think... We wouldn't have to go through any of it. This is God we're talking about, though. I need... So maybe God, you know, the Lord works in mysterious ways, but I think it's really beautiful about it is it's going, hey, you're gonna fuck up.

That's who you are as a human being. But what you should try to do is strive to not fuck up and strive to behave like that guy would be able to. But why make that model? Instead of just making us all perfect? Why make the airplane? What I'm saying? Why make the airplane?

God knows what I mean. He didn't make everybody else hide their balloons. But God knows we need fun. We knows we're like fucked up shit. We can't have fun, perfect? No, we can't. Yes, we can. A bunch of Jesus is walking around would not be funny.

Bro, Jesus walked on water. Jesus turned water to wine. Jesus made two rolls of bread and two pieces of fish and fed multiple people. But that's only impressive because we can't do it. If all of us could do it, we wouldn't even be looking up to him. Nah, bro. That shit is way fly than anything I've heard any of us do.

That's the point. Because we can't do it. Because we can't do it. Imagine if all of us could do it. It wouldn't be fly, be regular. We all walking. Shokes. Watch a mic.

It's the equivalent to us walking right now. Shots. Shots. Yeah. Shots. Yeah. Shots. Yeah.

You've been around long enough. I'm going to say something that I made it. All right. There's a big, big difference. Between hanging out with millionaires on a motherfucking yacht. Okay. Then partying with people just locally. in a basement somewhere in New York City.

Is it not? Yeah, sure. Both might be equally fun. Yeah. But one really, really makes you feel like, wow. Don't you think? Yeah, no. You're lying.

I've seen you in the Hamptons, bro. It's nice. Your turn up is different now. It's nice. I see your turn up now, bro. I see your turn up now. Don't try that shit with me. But I'm always with my homies no matter where I go.

But y'all all came up together. Yeah. Because everybody getting to the money now. But it wouldn't be fun just to hang out with the motherfuckers that got money. It's only fun to be around the homies. If everybody, if all of us were as perfect as Jesus, it's like being a billionaire. I understand. Probably better.

I understand what you're going with that. But I think the reason why we're excited by those billionaire shits is because we're not billionaires. So the opportunity to just taste it for a week or a weekend is really enticing to us. But why couldn't we all just be on that level? Because that's how humans are. We value these things that we cannot have. I think we need to talk to God. I think somebody.

Let's do it. There's no, I think we might. Let's go to church, bro. I actually think that if we revisit the story of Jesus and don't look at Jesus is perfect, would look at Jesus as a man who was flawed just like us, but chose to live in a way where people thought he was perfect. That would be more of a story. That's more of a story.

Maybe. me. Again, I don't know those stories. I could have gotten wrong. My understanding was that he was perfect and all of us are flawed and that's why we should follow him and that he was willing to, but maybe he was flawed. I don't fucking know. We follow people as we follow people who we watch evolve. So like if you're a person who we used to watch and you was like incredibly flawed, you did fucked up things or even just let's just keep a physical appearance in it. If you was fat and you was out of shape but then we saw you get into shape and get your life together. You follow that.

You are inspired by that. Absolutely. So I don't see why I couldn't be the same. I just don't understand why you go from a perfect model. You say, you know what? This perfect thing didn't cut it. I'm going to make something that's flawed. Why?

He started out with just people. And then he made the perfect model. So we were all just here. Right? I don't think Abraham was perfect. Yeah, because Adam and Eve weren't perfect. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Eve. And we fuck up once she took that apple. Yeah. This is wild. Hold on now. Eve. So let's just say based off what the Bible said, the first two people on this earth were Adam and Eve.

Eve was incredibly flawed, caused Adam the flaw. Yep. Right? Kane and Abel were their only children. Kane killed Abel. Jealousy, envy, incredibly flawed. Then went off and found a wife. Don't make any sense.

I know. I know. Right? But so you made all of these flawed individuals to make the one perfect person to be down here with all of these flawed fucks. and then those flawed fuck killed your one perfect model? What if? And maybe this is what Christianity is all about.

Talk to me. God created this perfect model to come down here and try to change all of us and get us to as close to perfection as possible. Let us see that perfection is attainable and we fail. That is Christianity. That is? Yes. Guys, if you're, I'm not a bastard.

I'm not a bastard. You're really dumb. You're right. I'm not a bad. If you're really smart, you're right to. I'm not a Baptist. This has been the brilliant idiotic podcast. We love you.

We appreciate you. And we're going to see you next week. Let me know if this is Christianity. I do want to know. Was that Christianity for real? I think so, man. Really? Yeah.

I don't know. So he said it. So he said this. to try to save us. And then we killed him? Yes. He sent his one and only son. For what?

Stop the podcast. Stop the podcast. Stop the podcast. They'll be more next week. They will be more next week. We need to bring a pastor on, yeah. Did you grow up Jehovah's goodness? I would love that.

Yeah, but I've always made those, I've always asked those questions. I would love that. Can we bring a pastor on? That'd be awesome. We've had one number four. Pastor Carl Lynch was number four. But I've always asked those questions. Yeah.

As always, Andrew already did, but as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if we listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots and don't know shit, I don't know Jesus. You're probably right to us. To be brilliant idiotic podcast, thank you for listening. Hey!