The Brilliant Idiots - It Is WTF It Is

Episode Date: August 6, 2020

This week Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz discuss, the NBA bubble, Trumps "It is what it is" comment, Charlamagne clears up some things about his Logic interview, mental illness and depression, and more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's so stupid. It's positively brilliant. Yep, Shalda Mideon. Andrew Schultz. We are the brilliant idiots back for another week of brilliant idiotic shit, okay? It's not act like you don't know what the fuck we do here. Mm-hmm. All right.

Andrew, how was your week? It was good. It was good. Did it feel like Groundhog Day? Did it feel like a rerun of a bunch of shit you've been doing? Probably. I mean, the days are all starting to blend together, but I'm held together by this content.

That's what's giving me a real schedule. Content. Yes, the content. Break that down. So you have like a calendar, like you can tell the days apart based off content? Oh, of course. I know we're doing idiots on a Wednesday.

I know we're doing Flagrant on a Monday night. I know Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we're working on the monologue. I see. Patreon for Flagrant on a Thursday. So it's just like, that's what creates the schedule for me. It's really interesting how it just blends itself in, right?

Like, there are no weekends. There are no weekends. Nah, you know, I'm gonna be, I feel the weekends. Only reason I feel the weekends, because I get to sleep in. I actually got to sleep in this morning because, well, we're recording this on Wednesday. I guess we had a fucking tropical storm here. Yeah, you felt it? My Wi-Fi was out.

I didn't even realize it. Really? In the whole area. But I guess it was a thing because I saw even Elvis Duran. Happy belated, today's his born day. Happy born day to Elvis Duran. By the time you're hearing this, it'll be belated. But I even saw him.

say that his Wi-Fi was out, and I know Envi's Wi-Fi was out because he had to go to his office. So I don't know. I guess that's the thing. The fucking Wi-Fi was out, so he couldn't even do shit this morning. So I went back to sleep. Hold on one second. I'm sorry, guys. Hold on one second. There's just this bug in the room. I just want to get it out of the room. Don't kill the bug, bro. Don't kill the bug. What kind of bug is it, man? Just get a fly. That's it. No, get a napkin. Why? Pick the bug up. Toss it outside, bro. Don't kill the, is a fly? Yes, why are you saying a fly?

Oh, now flies can get it. No, flies can get it. Flies get it. It's a fly. Now, we get, I get flies the fuck out of here. You know what you need for flies? You need the old school fly swatter that your grandma used to have back in the day. But they still sell those shit, man.

When you think about it, when you think about it, those were the most disgusting weapons ever because all you would do is kill flies. It'd be blood and fly guts all over it. But didn't nobody ever wash no goddamn fly swatting? That would be a feeling. Fair Factor Challenge to kiss the fly swatter that's been sitting in your grandma's house for years. And by the way,

the fly swatter is one of the most illest inventions ever because that shit Alex got in his hand, flies laugh at that shit. Hey, you think you swinging that shit fast? That fly will look at that shit and be like, this motherfucker really think he about to hit me with that? You know what I do though? You won't get near them.

I just spray the flies with like bleach or something like that. I never did that. Do they have fly spray? I don't think they got flies sprayed and they got raid from roaches. But look, you spray it. It's not going to hit them on Magley, but it hits them slowly

because I've been finding, I found like a dead fly randomly like, oh, I got them. No, my bad. Let's start, oh, there it is. Yo, yo, let's, matter of fact, this is a great way to segue and the positively brilliant

or what a fucking need. Hold on, hold on, let's start, I'm sorry, guys. Why are we not starting over? This is a great content. No, no. This is great content. Why are you really just worried about a fly?

This is great contest. Let me tell you something. It's like the break of that episode. Let me tell you something about the fucking fly, bro. Okay. The fly swatter is the last great invention that was made in America that wasn't made in China, bro. The last great thing that fucking Americans made that the Chinese, that's in America, that Chinese didn't make is the fly swatter. That thing that Andrew, I mean that Alex has in his hand, flies laugh at that shit, bro.

Fly see that shit coming and that motherfucker start moving like Keanu Reeves in the Matrix. He's laughing at you. Alex. It's something about the fly swatter, the way that the net is designed with the holes in it. For whatever reason, flies can't see that shit coming, bro. See, look at him. He keeps him missing it. No, he didn't.

He's a liar. He's a liar. Murdered that fly, bro. You bombed Iraq and there was no weapons of mass destruction there. You're fucking lying, Alex. He didn't need a little paper. You killed that shit, Al. No, he did it.

Oh, there's another flyer as well. That's the same fly. That's the same fly. Now he's fucking with y'all. He's like, these New Yorkers don't know how to kill no goddamn fly. I'm going to tell you, listen. First of all, I hate when Southerners do that shit. Anytime New York are bad at anything,

oh, New Yorkers don't have had a barbecue, no fucking steak. But New Yorkers don't know how to cross no fucking street? What is this, you know? Why is it because we're from New York? You think we all got flies up here? You know, flies migrated from the south to New York because they realized y'all ain't had no fucking fly swatters? It was like, yo, they don't.

I got no, there's no migrated. They have no defense against us in New York City. Look, Andrew about to use his hat. Because he's like he got to open. Because you told me not to kill him. I was going to scoop him up

and I was going to take him out the fucking room, dude. Yo, the fly is going to be sitting around with his boys tonight drinking out of somebody's cup. Like, yo, man, you wouldn't believe what happened earlier. You know, it was these two guys. It was this white dude and this Puerto Rican dude. You know, they was trying to kill me with record album covers, and hats.

and nothing worked. It was like, really? Yo, we got to go over there. What they had over there? A big cup of water. I'm telling you. What else did you see this week that was positively brilliant

other than the fly swatter? I don't know, man. What about you? What was your positively brilliant this week? I got to give it up for the NBA. Why? I just like how they, I like how they figured it out

while other major league sports organizations haven't. But I mean, it's a simple reason for that. What, the bubble? Yeah, basketball is just easier to contain. That's all. It's just easier to contain, you know what I mean? Because all you need is a court. Right.

Yeah. And you get everybody in one place, you know, the teams are smaller. It's like, what, 12 people per team. I don't know how many, you know, with coaches and everything else. I don't know how much people are actually on a team, but I think I read somewhere it was like 300 or a little bit more than 300. Right. So it's just easier to contain.

You invite a few media people in, lock the whole shit down, and have tournament-style basketball. And it looks fun. It looks dope. I'm not going to find it. It looks like NBA 2K to me. Do you think that the staff, so right now nobody's in the bubble, nobody's out of the bubble?

Yes. Right? What do you mean? Nobody's in the bubble? Like the bubble, nobody can go into the bubble, no one can come out. It's kind of like you're just locked in, and that's just whatever.

It's this own ecosystem. Yeah. Do you think that the NBA players will start to try to have sex with the staff this working the bubble? Hmm. If they're smart, no. Has nothing to do with the bubble

and everything to do it to me two times up movement. No need to get no goddamn... This is really what you just said. Yeah, no need... These are guys that are NBA players. They're getting their dick suck before every game that they want. They got a chick in every different city.

No need to get. What about their wives? No need to get me to it in the boat. What about them? No need to get me too in the boat. Wait, you think NBA players are 100% faithful? What about the single NBA players? First of all, 80-something percent.

How do you have 10 different baby moms? What does Dwight Howard have? Stop. You got 10 different baby mamas. 80% of the NBA is black. Black men don't cheat. So the ones that are not with somebody are not a committed relationship? They just got to, who cares?

Why do you need to have sex? Why do you need to have sex? No, why do you need to have sex? Is that the question you just asked? You don't need to have sex, but there's nothing you could do in the bubble. There's nothing going on. You can't even hang out with people inside. It's constant basketball.

Say what? It's constant basketball, right? Constant basketball, you know, they're playing games. It's actually a good bonding experience, to be honest with you. It's like some of kids. You don't think the guys are going to be trying to get their dick sucked by the secretary of the hotel. You don't think the cleanie lady. Before we come out.

So before, before. this was happening. What were they doing before? Getting their dick suck? Bro, you're so prehistoric, bro. It's 2020, bro. Why don't I have to get my dick sucked by a woman? All these memes around here?

Why do I got to shoot at that basket in 2020? First of all, you're not acknowledging the fact all of the undercutting. I don't even know what happened. All I got to say is yabababado do, bro. Well, I guess I'm free a story. It's called setting the screen, all right? All right? I set a screen.

You're acting like in 2020, there's no undercover gay basketball players. They are in heaven in that book. Oh, they're loving it. That's the dream, bro. Ba-pa-pa-pa-pa. I'm loving it. That's the dream. Yes, they are.

Yeah. What are you talking about? So do you think that they're going to take advantage of, like, some, like, buy NBA players but, like, have never gone that way? Because the NBA is going gay in this bubble. guaranteed. No, the gay NBA players getting it in. They're getting it in.

But do you think that they're going to flip any straights? I don't, it's not like jail, bro. I don't think it's that bad. I think it's like jail. You think it's like jail? What did Ellen say? She says the same thing. It's not a life sentence, though.

It's not a life sentence, but still. I don't think you even start contemplating that kind of stuff unless you get a life sentence. Bro, you will go going from Daily Dick sucks. to just guys. Okay, it's just guys. What if your daily dick sucks with just guys? So now you're chilling. Nothing has changed.

Your life is good. Matter of fact, we should look at who's the most relaxed in the bubble. If you really want to know, if you really want to know. Yo, if you're a gay NBA player, you're probably sitting around like, did I dive corona and go to heaven when you're looking around that bubble? 100%. 100% Taylor, I don't know why you're shocked to see this. Who's your favorite NBA player?

He passed away. Who's your favorite NBA player? He passed away. Current NBA player. Current NBA player. Why you got to make it sad? The fuck, bro. Current NBA player.

I don't have one. You don't like anybody in the NBA? I mean, they're cool, but I can't, like, name one out of the back. If you worked at the hotel, would you be excited if you were single, hypothetically speaking? Is that I'd be excited? Yeah. All those nice looking bodies walking around you. And you're one of 10 girls.

And there's all these guys fill with testosterone to the brim. I'm not a hoe. Who said you're a hoe? What's I got to do what you're in a hole? Y'all could go in a wall. Time out, time out, time out. Don't talk to Taylor today. Taylor's on one, yo.

Taylor's on one. You know, Chris was talking to Taylor. Chris said, Taylor was talking about black as king, right? And Taylor was like, I fell asleep. So, Beyonce said, I mean, Chris said, so you fell asleep to your queen. Taylor said, why I got to be a coon? Whoa. Whoa.

What? What? What? What? Whoa, dude. Whoa. Yo, his internet was going in now. Stop.

Stop. Andrew specifically said to you, you're a one of ten women. Mm-hmm. You have a choice of all of these different men. You said, I'm not a whole. What that got to do with anything? What does that have to do that? Can I tell you what it was, Charlotte?

Because she started thinking of some hoax. things. That's why. That's why. She started thinking of some whole things and they... Exactly. Exactly. Like, you know what it is? It's like when you come home late and your girl's like, what the fuck are you doing? You're like, I wasn't cheating. She's like, I never asked you if you were cheating. I wasn't anyway. I am not looking at Porn Hub. Yeah. I'm not watching no old women on Pornhub. What are you talking about? Yeah, you just outed yourself. You were thinking of whole stuff.

Because what else, what's the end of the question? Taylor, you are a... Hold on. You are a young, Taylor, you are a young black woman who can make her own decisions. I know. You are some, if you are somewhere, and it's a smorgasbord of men to choose from, and you choose to sleep with one, even if you choose to sleep with two, that don't make you a whole. That don't make a whole. I know it doesn't, but they're not going to try to treat me like one and not take me seriously.

One. How do you figure? Just don't fuck one of the duos. Don't fuck Hardin and Westbrook. That's a good point. Just don't fuck people on the same team for me. Yeah, don't fuck people that are beefing. Don't fuck people that are beefing.

Also, don't fuck twins. Don't fuck Kauai and Paul George. Yeah. You got to, you got it. Don't fuck Luca and sports zingis. Yeah. That's all? You got to go different division.

Eastern Conference, Western Conference, back and forth. That's what you got to do. For real. You can't keep the Coochy in one conference. Word up. That's the bubble rule. You're going to fuck Zion and Brandon Engram and then one to why. they call you out your name.

Yeah. Come on. And another thing that you need to start doing to start, you need to watch that, Beyonce thing, so you could put some respect on yourself. Yeah. Because I was talking about you building a relationship with a successful man. Word up.

I wasn't talking about no ho shit. You just jumped out there and volunteered the whole shit. I ain't no ho. I'm not stuck in everyone's dick. We were like, we didn't ask you about dick. Nobody said that. Nobody said that. All I told you was that you are a vibrant, a vibrant.

a vibrant young woman who would have the pick of the litter there. Might even leave with a husband. You don't know. You get married at Magic Kingdom. I definitely wouldn't. In Orlando, you might as well. This is crazy. We over here thinking nice, wholesome stuff about how you can get wiped up

and you just out here thinking about the trains that could get ran on you. That's the thing. That's the thing with girls these days. That's the thing with girls these days is projecting their sex nonsense. sense on us and that's not what we're about over here. We thought you were going to have some conversations play a couple rounds of golf with Dwight Howard. I can not stand, Joe.

No doubt. Y'all won. Y'all won that round. Go ahead. It's not, you know what? It's not a game to be won. You know what I'm saying? It's really not a game to be one.

It's not a game, bro. It's not. We're out here because we care about you. So you don't like the new NBA 4 match shows? It's not that I don't like it. I actually think they did a really good job visually. It looks fine. For me, it doesn't mean.

mean anything yet. Really? Like, I'm seeing the games and I'm like, what is it? It's like still the regular season. Like, these games to me are like preseason. It feels like preseason. Once we get into playoffs, I think I'm going to take it seriously. But these games I could give a fuck about.

Yeah, they're bawling, though. I'm not going to lie. Like, they're bawling. I mean, I guess because they don't have anything to do but play ball. And they haven't played ball in months. Yeah. They balling. Yeah, they're going for it? I think so. The one question I have is like, are you going to get the same

effort from the players? when without the crowd there that's like cheering them on. Like you know those moments when it's like Steph Curry is going crazy. He just hits four threes in a row and the crowds erupting and everybody's losing it. Are you going to get those same moments without the crowd? I would love to know. That's a great question. And I would love to know what is the percentage of crowd energy that people take in?

And what I mean by that is when you're an NBA player, a certain portion of you, a certain percentage of you on that court has to block all that shit out, right? Yeah. And you have to do that home or away because I don't think it's something you can turn on or off,

meaning like if you're on a away court and people are booing the shit out of you, you got to block that out. But if you're at home and people are even cheering you, you still kind of got to block that out just to perform and get in here. It's kind of like when my daddy used to say you're never as good as they say you are

and you're never as bad as they say you are so you don't really pay attention to either or. I wonder how much of, what's the percentage of just crowd noise and crowd, crowd energy, they block off and don't take in. Yeah, or maybe it's something that inspires them either way. Like some people might get inspired by the booze.

True. You know, and it motivates them to say, oh, I'm going to lock this guy up now. There's no way he's going to score me if everybody's going to be booing me like that. You know, I can't wait to give them buckets. But I will say the one thing that we don't give any athlete enough credit for is because I think we don't recognize the mental fortitude it takes to be them. our emotional fortitude it takes to be them

because I think a lot of times when we think mental, we think IQ. So you might hear one of these guys talking to interview and they may not be the most intellectual articulate, but on that court or on that field, they have high levels of IQ. So I think that they have to go places in their mind

that we don't go on a regular basis. Right. So I actually think not having the crowd will make for better basketball because it's going to make those players have to dig deeper into their psyches. You know what I mean? Yeah, or it could benefit the mentally weaker players.

Like the players that get nervous, the players that, you know, they choke under pressure. Now they're not going to feel that same level of pressure because it's not going to be 20,000 people screaming of them every time they fuck up. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. The playoffs will be interesting. I'm excited to see what happens, man. I'm really excited to see what happens. I am too.

Positively brilliant this week. What else did I see that? You know what I thought was positively brilliant? What? I think the rock behind the XFL is positively brilliant because I think you could put that in the same type of bubble as you can put the, as the NBA did. Whereas the regular NFL, I think it's too big to bubble. There's just not enough football fields in that close of proximity to lock everybody in. So there is a chance that if the NFL gets shut down, baseball might get shut down, all these different leagues might get shut down because Corona seems to be taking out players.

there's a chance that maybe the XFL is the only football that we watch this year, and then it could blow the fuck up if they bubble it. Why the fuck was the XFL so cheap? Bro. Fifteen million? Because I think, I don't know what you're buying. I think you're just buying the brand name. I don't think you're buying anything else besides that.

It's not like there's, like, what else is there to buy? They don't got a stadium. They don't have, like, an office. They don't have anything. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you just buying the brand of the XFL. I was, um, that is a lot of, That was a positively brilliant move.

I think it's positively brilliant for what you just said. I didn't think about that. I was looking at it from the angle of Duane, the Rock Johnson, who used to be an employee of a owner who actually owned the XFL, Vince McMahon, you know, when the Rock used to be a wrestler.

And so the Rock, Vince owned the WWE and the XFL. I just love to see somebody come from that to putting himself in a position to where now he's an owner of something. Like the rock has come up and become a boss where he once was a worker.

It started there. It started in the WWE. That's how the brand of the rock was built to become Duane, the Rock Johnson, the highest paid actor in Hollywood. Now he's buying something that somebody he used to work for

used to own. Yeah. I think that's dope. That's the kind of energy that I like. Yeah, that's kind of fire. It reminds me of the intern who becomes the CEO. Yeah. You know, and I think that the rock, you know,

learned business somewhere along the line. And you don't see, you don't see wrestlers making those kind of moves. I can't think of too many WWE superstars who went on to become as successful as the rock after wrestling. You know? I can't think any. Yeah. Who?

Yeah. I can't think any. So I thought that was brilliant on his part. What a fucking idiot, man. I even hate to put him in what a fucking idiot. Because I don't think, I think it goes back to what I was just saying about ball players, right? Like, just because they don't articulate well

when they're in interviews doesn't mean that they don't have a level of genius. And I think it takes the level of genius to be your president, bro. Yeah. Just a little bit. Because the way he handles himself in interviews is incredible to me. Yeah. If it wasn't, if it wasn't the fate of America at hand, it would be the most interesting, entertaining thing to watch.

Because the things he says, I hate that I understand what he means. Yeah. When he's talking about coronavirus and they're bringing up how many people die, the coronavirus. Everybody took that one clip when he said it is what it is. But in context, what he said made sense. What did he say? He said, I want you to play the clip the way, right? But he said, it is what it is. 150,000 people died. But it's not like we haven't been trying to do everything to prevent that from happening, right? And so when they hear you say everything's under control, don't worry about where he might.

I mean, these are people, many of them are older people, Mr. President. It's giving them a full sense of security. I think it's under control. I'll tell you what. How? A thousand Americans are dying a day. They are dying. That's true.

And it is what it is. So basically what he's saying, and I feel like I'm a Gemini translator because I can translate Kanye, Donald Trump, and little Duval. I always know what those three are talking about, right? But he's essentially saying some things are just simply out of your control. And I'm not, and listen, there's plenty of people. people who say he could have done more to prevent these things from happening. I'm, yes, I agree with those people because firing the global pandemic team in 2016 was just

stupid. That's what that, that's what stats for. Like, you don't get rid of your insurance and then get in the car wreck and then get mad because they, you know, they won't fucking cover you or you got to come out of pocket to pay. Right. So he's basically saying some things are just out of our control. And we've tried and we're tried and we're tried to. We're tried to. We're tried. But 150,000 lives were still lost. Now, the debate there is what I just said. Did he do a enough to prevent those 150,000. Let's just say, for hypothetical purposes, yes, he did. 150,000 people still died.

Whether it was 150,000 or 40,000. Whether it was 40,000 or 20,000, there was going to be casualties, right? You just want to keep those casualties down to a minimum. Him saying it is what it is. It's not like we didn't try our hardest to prevent this from happening. I understood what the motherfucker was trying to say. What's hard to understand about that? I do.

What was it? Listen, listen, whenever you got over 150,000 people dying, you can't just say it is what it is. Because if that was, if that was five of your family members who died in that, you wouldn't talk on it like that. No, it'd be a complete tragedy. It'd be horrible.

But it would be, we should look like that. It would be what it is. I have said, I know I've said that a lot this summer, because I had two friends who committed suicide in June. And after a while, that is one of the coping mechanisms for it, right? You just got to accept it for what it is. Life is fucked up, man.

Life is not fair. Yeah. Life is not going to go your way all the time. That's why I always say I don't believe in good or bad. I just believe in life being one long process. And it's just a series of experiences. Some of those experiences are going to hurt. Some of those experiences are going to help.

I think all those experiences, you know, help you become who you ultimately are going to be, though. Yes. Now, in the case of America, is there something to learn from this situation? Of course it will be. Do we see the lesson now? Maybe not. Maybe some of us do. Maybe some of us don't.

Maybe we won't realize it until two, three years down the line. Maybe it's just a major fuck-up. And guess what? When major fuck-ups happen, things like this happen. People die. People get sick. sadly that's just so I'm about to say

that's just the way that it is so whether you say it is what it is that's the way it is but I understand I understand when people are sensitive and they've had something horrible happen to them they want empathy

they want concern and maybe that's the role of a president you know maybe that's one of the things Obama was so great at or Clinton was so great as that he could talk to the moment in a way that would kind of console people

and make people feel more comfortable and that's why I put him in the what a fucking idiot category because all you got to do is show some empathy. He has no empathy. Trump doesn't have that gear. He's not, he's kind of like Kanye in the way he communicates, you know, like. Kind of?

Yeah, like, like in a- Kind of? Okay, very similar. And I mean that, I mean that in terms of a compliment and a diss because if it's something that resonates with people that Kanye says, right, it's exalted. People love it. George Bush don't care about black people.

People talk about that to this day. He just spoke to the feelings. And I'm sure Trump has a million lines that are similar to that, right? Which people are like, yeah, fake news, yeah, crooked Hillary, yeah. He knows how to, like, market ideas. But if you're going to him and you're like, he's not the guy that you go to and be like, I'm feeling sad today. He's going to be like, he's an old school father. It is what the fuck up.

Man, up. What you mean you feel sad? He fucking means you feel sad. Put some makeup on. You guys don't think he has a responsibility as the person effectively in charge of the federal government for coordinating this country's response to that. You guys are just going to let him off the hook for that and it is what it is. Chris, you're not listening. Chris, I'm hearing everything you're saying.

And by the way, you ended it with just like how Trump ended it. You said it is what it is. Yeah, Chris. Okay. Yeah, Chris. Tell me what we're saying. What we're saying is exactly what you're saying, Chris. Yes, as president, he should have empathy.

He has a responsibility to keep the temperature of the. the country down, but he's not capable of doing it. Listen, Chris just wants division in this country, bro. We all know what side Chris is on. Chris is working over the Chinese. I'm on to his ass. Hey, Chris. He said, bye boy to you.

Hey, Chris, don't think I'm not on to you, bro. That's CCP. That's CCP. Talk about. Chris didn't even mute. Chris got the fuck off all together. Wait, he got off the call? He did?

He got off the call all together. Because he knows who else was listening. But Chris... He knows who else was listening, bro. What Chris is failing to realize, we're saying exactly what he's saying. He just said it in a much more articulate, intelligent book-writory way.

Chris wants that division, bro. You know what Chris is right now. Chris, Chris is sitting in a temple about 1,000 stairs into the sky, okay? Above the cloud line, you got to walk up 1,000 straight stairs to get there. And he's trying to stoke that division,

Bro, he's trying to tear us apart, tear this country apart. To benefit of one place, you know what I can't. There's nobody doing a better job of that than Donald Trump, though. And the reason Donald Trump is doing a great job of that is to what we're saying and Chris is saying is because he doesn't know how to bring people together. He just doesn't know how to do it. It's not in him. Like you said, he doesn't have that gear, bro. It's not only a gear.

It's a practice, right? if you're a business, you're a businessman or woman, Taylor, you have to appease the people to support your business. So he's just treating the country like his business. And he's appeasing his supporters. The customer's always right. It don't matter if the customer is a staunch, diehard, you know, economic conservative or maybe a racist motherfucker who got Republican values.

He is appeasing the customer. The customer is always right. He don't give a fuck about the competition. But I'm going to tell you what he fucked up, Where's that? When you say it is what it is to 150,000 people, bro, some of your customers died too. You know what I'm saying?

Some of your customers' relatives are dead as well. I'm not, what is it called? What am I saying? What I'm trying to say? Like, I'm not saying it's okay what he said. It was stupid. It was dumb from a PR perspective. Like, let's say that's how you feel.

Even if that's how you feel, you got to know better than to say that. He can't. This is a guy who doesn't listen to anybody. Yeah. He doesn't listen to any notes. I'm sure that he has people around him that prep him for this shit, but he don't remember none of this shit.

Like, so he goes with his feelings. Yeah. He's a guy who always moves off emotion, not strategy. And by the way, it's probably worked for him his whole fucking life for the most part. I thought that with John Lewis. What's the John Lewis thing? I didn't watch the whole interview. What was it?

I'm a, see, and here I go. Here you go, Charlotte. There you go. It is what it is. Time out. It is what it is. Once again, once again, I'm playing white devil's advocate here.

What he said about, what he said about Representative John Lewis was all the way fucked up. But I didn't expect anything less. He's a petty motherfucker. He said John Lewis didn't come to my inauguration. Why didn't he come to the inauguration? Because he doesn't agree with Donald Trump

and Donald Trump's policies, of course. Trump is so petty that even though John Lewis is dead, Trump is like, he didn't come to my inauguration. Now, little Boosie did an interview with DJ Vlad a long time ago. It was maybe a couple years ago. And Boosie said, if I don't like you, I'm not going to pretend to like you after you dead. Interesting. He said, if I don't like you, he said, if it was F you when you was alive, it was going to be F you when you was dead.

We say keep the same energy. Yeah. So do we respect it? No. was he wrong as the leader of the of the country? Yes. But as the human? That's his right.

That's his right to say, I don't rock with John Lewis. I didn't rock with John Lewis. He said, I didn't know him. I didn't know the man. He didn't come to my inauguration. I know that much. So, eh.

I mean, you knew him enough to know he didn't come to the inauguration. Because he's petty. He's the type of to keep names. Who didn't come? who didn't come to my inauguration? Write that name down. I remember that in the future. Because by the way, he gave it up to Herman Kane.

Even though he's partly the blame for Herman Kaye not being here no more. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because as a leader, you gathered all those people together knowing that the country wasn't ready for that type of congregation yet. This man caught coronavirus.

This man passed away. Didn't wear no mask. Was on Twitter saying how, yo, we don't have to wear no mask. America's tired of it. now he's not here anymore. That's why I don't, certain things I don't lie. You can't play with certain energies, bro.

You know, he just don't do that because you just never know. So Herman Kane played with that energy, and he died from that energy. Trump gave it up to him. Trump gave him a nice long Twitter ran or nice long Instagram caption, whatever it was, said he was a great man and all of this because he knew him and because Herman Kane supported him. So Trump is really a guy that's like, yo, if you ride with me, I ride with you. If it's F me, it's F you for.

life and in death. Yeah. It is interesting. It's like relatable in your favorite rapper, but it's not what you want in your president. Yeah. I think that's what it really comes down to. Yeah. So then we got to think about... Hey, not even just your favorite rapper,

you're just... When you're in a position where you control the country, and you're over the country, bro, you just can't move like everybody else. Maybe we want our presence to be fake, and maybe Trump isn't fake enough for us. And maybe that's why we get upset. Like, we want our presidents to lie to us. We want our presidents to give us hope.

We want our presidents to be almost like our parents when we're kids who are going to just tell us everything's going to be all right. We're going to figure out everything and everything's fine. And when we don't get that from our president, whatever sigh doesn't get that, gets enraged. I think you're right. And I think we want that from everybody. This is actually a deep dive.

I think we want that from everybody. I think in order to get to that that place of real healing, that place of real honesty, I have to start with the bullshit. Like, before I tell you that you did something wrong, I got to tell you how great you are. You know what I mean?

That's just the area we live in. You might not receive it. If I just come out, boom, out the gate. And I'm telling you, yo, you were effed up for this and you were effed up for that. and you were wrong for this, yada, yada, yada. You might not receive it. But if I take that medicine,

put a little sugar in it and give it to you that way, you know? Yeah. Remember when you was a kid and they take the spoon and you, Airplane, airplane, runway. You have to do that. You just do. People don't like shit scrape with no chaser as much as we say we do. Good or bad.

Yeah. Good or bad. Don't tell me. Don't tell you. Like, that's what would they sit you down and say, I got good news and I got bad news. which one you want first. The answer to that question really determines what type of person you are.

Right. Seriously. Can you handle the bad news first? Most people can't. Nobody wants bad news. Nobody wants bad news. And nobody wants, to be honest, like we do want the truth, but we want it in a way that desensitizes us first. Maybe that's what you're saying, like building them up.

maybe that's who you're saying that we want to be understood before we get the truth like if you got to tell somebody who they are you got to tell somebody some horrible news about something their feelings need to be acknowledged first and that's something that trump does not do that's something that conier does not do that's something a lot of just poor communicators do and i'm not going to call trump or conier poor communicators even though i have because they're exceptional at communicating certain things right like if you listen to conier you listen to trump you listen to certain people they're just kind of funny and they'll make points that some people might seem, might say are like brave to say because others wouldn't say them in that situation. So you kind of value that.

But at the same time, if it's ever something that you're not ready to hear, you don't want to hear, it stings that much more because there's no filter whatsoever. There's no chaser. You just got to take that shot straight. Yeah. Wow, are they good communicators? I think they are. I can't call them like all across the board, but they have genius in their communication. Like, you cannot deny there's genius in Trump's communication because he has all these words that we continue to use. It's great marketing. And you cannot deny Kanye's genius in his communication because he can stir shit up.

He knows how to fucking rile people up. But at the same time, they get bigger of effects. Anybody who is able to make you give a fuck about every word they say has to be a great communicator. because whether you're breaking down those words, the shit on them, or you're bigging up those words because you loved what they said. You're hanging on to every word. And I think great communicators make you know how to hang,

make great communicators know how to make people hang on to every word. Yeah. And why do we hang on? I really don't know. In the case of Kanye, I think we hang on because there was a period where Kanye said a lot of things that people agreed with. And you got to think, Kanye's not just, you know, we're talking about interviews and ranch and shit like that, but this is a guy who gave you multitudes, I mean, a plethora

of music. So it's a bunch of words that people live and die by from Kanye West. You understand what I'm saying? Like, it's albums that have gotten people through. So he's a rapper. So as a rapper, your whole method is oritating, right? So you're giving people these words and delivering these words and people hold on to them. And then, you know, when you did step out and do these rant, whether it was George Bush doesn't care about black people, or Beyonce's album was better than Taylor Swift, or just these verbal screams of consciousness where you have seemingly spoke things into existence. You told people what you were going to do in the fashion world, told people what you were going to do in the sneaker world. You have enough currency out there with your

words, right? Because that's really what we're discussing, the economy of words. You have enough cachet out there with your words that people hold on to them. So I think in the case of Kanye, people still hold on because they're still waiting for that that brilliance that we once knew. You know? What about... What about in the case of someone like a Takashi 6-9?

Like, how is he so good at maintaining the conversation and maintaining a level of curiosity? And what do you think that he does effectively? Yeah, I mean, at this point, and I actually posted this morning, I posted this morning on Instagram. people would rather pull out the phone and record the car crash as opposed to saying something to a person that may prevent the car crash from happening.

So let's not confuse hanging on to somebody's every word with people watching a car crash. Because if everybody is waiting for something bad to happen to you, They're not paying attention to you because what you're saying is so intriguing. So you don't think there's any people that are just like curious about him? Curious of how it's going on. And yes. But if they watch the music video, they know that it didn't end in the music video. So they want to keep, they want to keep justifying what they want to keep justifying what they already feel.

Which is something bad is going to happen to the kid. So you're saying they're following the story as it comes to an end. They're watching the car waiting for it to crash. It's like this guy's drunk. He's got a mask on. He's got his eyes covered. Yeah, yeah. He's smoking weed.

Yeah. He's letting the car drive by itself. It's only a matter of time before he runs into somebody. Is that what I'm saying? Yeah, no, that makes sense. I think it's a good description because he's done an amazing job of garnering attention without quality. And he even talks about the lack of quality. Right?

he has that Angie Martinez interview where he's like, my music's trash. I mean, it's hot trash. Like, he has this amazingly like kind of humble, self-deprecating, you know,

outlook on his, on himself. But he knows how to like garner and continue that attention. And you're saying as part of the car crash. And maybe that's what we're all following. I guess. I don't know. But he found a way to monetize it.

I wonder. And, you know, it's so interesting, we've always compared, you know, Takashi, the Trump. but I kind of see the same energy

in both of them at this moment. And it's kind of like a drug dealer who knows he's about to go to prison. When drug dealers know they're about to go to prison, like when they know the feds is on them and they know that any day it could be over, they just start wilding.

You know what I mean? It's almost like, it's kind of like a cry for help almost. You know, it's kind of like a desperation desperation that started to set in and that's when they just start to really do and say anything in order to survive

because they can fill those walls closing in. And you don't know how much time you got left. In the case of Trump could be 90 days. But I don't think he's leaving. So, you know, I think he's going to

at least hold on until January. You know, I've been said this. I've been said Trump is going, I don't know how. but he's going to manipulate some shit in order to find a way to stay in that White House. And I think it's the same with the dude. I think that he might feel them walls closing in.

He may not know how long he got and he may not give a fuck. For real. I'm going to enjoy myself while I'm here. I'm not here for a long time. I'm here for a good time. Maybe that's how he's feeling. Do you think people ever get to that state

if they're not facing like fatal illness? Like, do you think they're actually, you think there are guys who are just like, look, I'm probably going to get killed within the next few years. So I'm a while out until that happens. That's it. Well, yeah. I mean, I know plenty of dudes like that. Like, I mean, we know. Really?

Little Duval is like that. And not only Little Duvall? Little Duval has been accepted that he could die at any moment. And he accepts that that's part of life for sure. But he's not purposely living crazy and reckless. Not crazy and reckless, but he's living, he's clearly living his life out loud. He says it. I'm living my best life.

Yeah, but he's not trying to do, he's not like going out of his way to do things that will kill him. Like he'll, he actually goes out of his way to do things that will make him live longer. Yeah. He's living. He's living. And by the way, I don't think, I don't think dude is doing anything to get himself killed. He's clearly not. He's walking around 100 security guards.

I'm just simply saying, if you know people are gunning for you. Right? If you know people want you out of here. If you're not even sure, you don't know. You don't know what could happen. You're going to live your life freely as possible. All right, I got a question. He's signed to a label, right? And the label is works with him on like creating these videos

and like marketing the songs and all this other stuff, right? We have to assume, right? Intimately involved in him. I assume there are other rappers signed to that. same label, no? Yeah. So why aren't they coming at the label for supporting a snitch? And why aren't they coming at the label for protecting a snitch and enabling a snitch?

Because I think they understand business. I don't think they're stupid. They understand business. Like, why would the label give a fuck? Why would the label care if... But you're assigned to that same label. So? It's business.

So when it comes to business, you're okay to like, be around snitches and that kind of stuff? Well, I don't think that they expect any of those executives to follow any of the same street codes that they do. Why would they? But they don't feel uncomfortable being like part of a label that like is with snitches. I mean, even if they did, what could they do?

They're on the contract. Right. So it's like, what could they do? Like what they could demand a trade? Trade me to Def Jam. I mean, they could Cameron that shit. Waves me. Isn't that what Cameron did?

Didn't he go in the building and just say, hey, I'm out? And he'd go in the death jam? and like slap somebody around and say, I'm no longer part of this label? I don't, I never heard that. Death damn or something else. Wasn't there a story about that back in the day?

I never heard that, but guess what? Even if you did, so what? You're under five albums, you got five albums. You can slap me up all you want. No, he got out of it. He got out of the contract, apparently. Probably because he turned in all his albums. I think he just pulled out a pistol.

Oh. Look up the story. I might, I don't think I'm making a camera. Damn. Adam. Andrew 22? Shit. God damn. I think, bro.

You just, how you just make up a whole story for a camera on like that? I didn't make it up. It's not Cam. Is it someone else? Jesus Christ. I don't know. I've never heard that story.

Noriega? I have no idea. What are you talking about Master P when he said? No, look it up. Maybe is it one of them? Oh, by the way. Ice key, be talking about him? Nah.

Why, by the way, what? Positively brilliant, no limit documentary, man. Listen, this is why, I mean, I'm just speaking for myself right now. Hip hop is the greatest genre of music of all time, only because there has not been a genre of music that transcends generations the way hip hop has. Like, maybe I could be wrong. I'm just speaking for hip hop and R&B is what I grew up on.

So maybe it's different from me. Andrew, you might have, your parents might have grew up on rock music and you might still be into a lot of these rock artists to this day. But I'm talking about the fact that MasterPee No Limit documentary can come on BET, debut at number one on BET, and be top, be number eight in all cable programming in the top 10 throughout for all cable because people are so in to these iconic superhero-like figures that have come from this genre hip-hop bit.

It's actually unbelievable. So the documentary is outright. now? Yeah, it's six parts, two parts aired last week, two more parts aired last night, even though we're taping us on Thursday, so I haven't seen this week. But Master P, man, he's always been such an inspiration for me because he's from the South. So, you know, back in the day when you saw the Forbes list, you would see Diddy and Will Smith and you'd be like, okay, you get it, right? But to see a guy from the South who wasn't shiny like Diddy or Will Smith who wasn't polished like Did he or Will Smith, but literally just had better business,

probably than both of them, if I'm being honest, right? Only because the deal that he decided to take, Jimmy Yavine offered Master P a million dollars. The sign. Master P was like, if this white man is offering me a million, I'm worth about 30 or 40. So I got to, you say, I'm not doing it. So he said, Jimmy Yavine told him, yo, you leave this office, deals off the table. he left, right? Then he went and spoke to a lawyer.

It was actually Michael Jackson's lawyer. I think he had to pay the lawyer just like 25 grand just to have a conversation with him, right? Well. And Michael Jackson's lawyer was like, what you need to do is get a pressing and distribution deal. You get 85, let the label get 15. So he went looking for a company that would give him that. And now that he has this knowledge, he's on for this knowledge. He goes into priority records.

That's what he ends up getting. Then he ends up selling a little bit more to ownership, like, I think it was like 5%. so he could get like a quarter million dollars just for marketing and promotion. I think it ended up being like 80, 20 or some shit like that. But either way, you're getting 80% of all profits. That's how he ended up on the fucking Forbes list.

Right? And then he'd go in there and tell the label, look, because he would say he was looking doing the math. He was like, your album went platinum. They made $16 million. And what if I put out one of these shit a week? How much money would I make? Went into the office.

Telling the exact. what he's going to do. The executives are telling him he can't do it. Master P said, I had to remember. I'm 80%. Y'all 20%. Y'all do what I tell y'all to do. He said, he looked around the room and said,

y'all think, because y'all white, y'all right. He said, I'm putting out an album a week. Do your job. And that's what he did. That's how No Limit became No Limit. He put out a new album. He put out a new album every week for a year. And I remember that.

Hold on home. an album? An album, but it was different artists. It wasn't just Master P. Oh, he had different artists putting out albums every week. So a Silk to Shaka album, Mystical, Mia X, C. Murder, Mac, Feen. He had a different artist coming out every freaking week. And I remember that because the only reason you would go in there and buy that albums

is because of that tape. That tank was so strong at the time in the South. If the album had a fucking tank on it, no limit, you was picking it up to see what was on motherfucker. So he has 52 different artists. I don't know how many he dropped that year, but it's close. He had a lot of artists, bro. And because every time you would open up a no-limit album

inside the album cover would just be all the coming soon. And it, damn, you don't remember that? Oh, Taylor, you y'all. I remember that. I was saying, I don't know. I'm just learning about Master P. Have you ever bought a CD, Taylor? Fucking.

Yes, I have brought a CD. I'm being honest. I'm sad. I don't know. Yeah. Yes, I brought CD. How old are you? I don't know how old are you?

Continue the situation. I was just going to say that I always knew that Master P was a businessman, but I didn't know like the story behind it. That's a lot more respect. I lost people betting on themselves. And that's why you should watch the doctor. That's why the story is so. I just loved his dance.

Remember he would do that shit? Bruh. Master P had an amazing life that people don't talk about, man. Master Pee had a fucking. I don't know what the hell that is you doing. That's to make him say nah. Make him say nah. Make him say nah.

Don't do that again. Master P was on two NBA preseason teams. I remember that. He had a sneaker. Remember that ugly ass sneaker he had? He did. He did. But he don't stop.

And that's what he was on breakfast club this morning. That's what he was talking about. He was like, man, what you need is product. product is what separates you from everybody else. That's what you want. You want to sell a product. And he's right. Everybody that's filthy,

fucking rich sells product, bro. What do you think his competitive advantage is? Being from the South. But outside of that, like, there's a lot of people that are from the South, right? What is it that he is exceptional at? Like some people succeed because they're amazing organizers. Some people succeed because they're visionaries,

they're innovators. What is Master P? You've spoken to him. You've known him for a, while what do you think he is so much better than his competition at outside of rap, let's say. Vision, uh, faith, faith in, faith in God and faith in himself and, um, business acumen, you know, just, just being able to sit down and soak up information. Like sometimes, man, we have, uh, what did you say, Taylor?

He's not emotional. Like, he was saying that he don't let, um, his emotions kind of get involved in the business. If he don't, um, he's not going to, like when he said to Snoop Dog, Like don't mess with. Oh yeah. Don't do the fuck. That's real shit. And then don't talk bad about him either though.

Because he helped you. Yeah. He put you on, which is true. You know what I'm saying? Like even though, but that goes back to, you know,

people do something good for you, but it doesn't mean they're good for you. And I get it. You know what I mean? I'm like, I'm like that with people that I've dealt with, you know, until they,

you know, like Wendy, I don't think I could ever speak bad about Wendy win. Because she's done so much for you. Yeah. Even though she might have. done things that are bad to you as well. Yeah. And I mean, you know, even even with our husband, our husband only, you push me to that.

You know what I'm saying? Because you're so busy out here trying to take my head off. But even still with that, I'm not going to go out of my way to speak ill of you or go out of my way to the wish harm upon you. God bless you. Do your thing. Right. You know? So I think with P, I think it's the fact that he has faith in a higher power, faith in himself, a high business acumen. and he's a, he's a, he's a visionary. Like, you got to be able to see things. Like, for real, when nobody else can see him. Right. Like, I can't explain to you why the tank should be my logo.

I can. I can be like, yo, most of my family was in the military, which P's family was, and we grew up off that military discipline. That's why I want to use this tank, right? But you may not see the vision. Like a tank. Yeah. Hang, I don't fuck with the government.

Yeah. I'm fucking America. It ain't about that. It's about the discipline that the army instills in you. It's about what that tank represents. That tank represents discipline. It represents having a foundation. It represents structure.

It represents organization. That's what we're building here, right? I can't explain that to you. I just got to show you. And I think that's what Master P did. I think even when he said he upped and went to Richland, California. I think that's what his wife's family was from or something like that. I could be getting the story wrong.

I don't remember how he ended up in California, but just knowing if certain places you need to be and listening to that inner voice, as crazy as it sounds, because, by the way, nobody talks to you crazier than you talk to yourself. Salute it's a woman, man. Her name is Neek.

Salute to Neke. Neke was the music director at Hot 103.9 at Columbia Soccerculine. I've told this story a million times. I wrote about it in my book. Neek, me and her was sitting in the studio having a conversation one day, just talking about what's next for us as far as radio and things are concerned. She was just telling me about signs.

And she was like, yo, you might leave here right now. And the first license plate you see, that's where you may need to be. Right? I'm like, no, I take it in, get in the car, jump to my little Honda goddamn Civic. Right? I'm driving. And I forgot about it. And then I thought about what she said.

So I just looked to the left. It's all lights plate. Lights plate said New Jersey. Like, oh shit, New Jersey, but I'm like, you're fucking radio stations in New Jersey. Then my mind goes New York. Jersey and New York right by each other. Immediately I dismissed the idea.

It's like, nah, that'll never happen. I'm in market number 98. How the fuck I'm going to make it to market number one. It don't matter how the fuck you're going to get there. Do you see the vision? Do you see what I'm trying to show you? Whoever that is, God, the universe, whatever you are. Do you see what I'm showing you?

I ain't ask you to worry about how you're going to get there. I'm trying to get you to see the vision trying to get you to see your fucking future I will handle the rest I just need you to go put in the work sometimes we talk ourselves out of things man straight up get that vision and you talk yourself out of it

like nah I ain't going how to fuck I'm not going there oh shut up whoever's talking to me in my head there's probably people listen right now is like yo why don't I get these little signs why don't I get these little visions I don't know if because you are fuck nigga I'm sorry I didn't mean to say that

I believe in you, whoever you are. I feel like his net. Yeah, he really leaned into that one. He really leaned into that. He, Charlemagne, really leaned into that. Not Andrew. That was said by 143, 2016. Andrew Charleston yelled out.

Charlemagne said that. Charlemagne the God while I listened. While I listened to that word. I was subject to that. I don't know who he was yelling at, but that person. felt it. If he's listening to it, that person knew exactly who he was talking about. Because I felt it a little bit. I felt it about, I felt about three out of ten.

You felt, hey, you felt 30 percent. You felt until I got to the end. Yeah. I don't know if it's applies to me. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I felt the whole thing, bro. I felt it all the way through. I felt it all the way through. That's right. That's right. That's that African DNA in you. That's that black magic, bro. So in all seriousness, though, I think sometimes there's people who like, well, why don't I see these signs? I see that kind of stuff. I don't know if things present themselves as signs as much as people who believe in

themselves see signs and everything. And I think when you believe in your ability to do certain things, when you believe in your ability to, like, achieve your dreams, you see a license plate and you see more than New Jersey. You see New Jersey, which is the place next to New York, which is where you should do radio. And if that was a sign, that's a convoluted ass sign. You know what I mean?

If God's like, y'all want you to be in New York. So check out this fucking Patterson, New Jersey license. No, I'm going to tell you why it's not a convoluted sign, though. Because, you know, you're a joke writer, right? You and your team can be sitting around writing and then one thing, right? Triggers the next, for sure. Trigger something else, you know, takes you in a whole other direction. You're like, oh, shit.

And next thing you know, you don't put the whole thing together. But that's what it was. You see that sign. It says Jersey. Next thing you think, Jersey, there ain't no radio stations in New Jersey. Well, New York is right there in New York. So, boom, the puzzles, the whole puzzle's starting to come together. I think what happens is when you believe in yourself, you start to see those puzzles.

You start to see the pieces. There's no different than, like, when you get a new car, all of a sudden you start to see everybody else who got that car. And before you got the car, you don't ever see the Accura, right? And once you have an Accur, you see Accur's everywhere. Like, you're a girl, right? you buy a new skirt, and then all of a sudden you see every single chick on Instagram

got that skirt or you're walking out of street. You see, you see more people with the thing that you have. And you're like, oh my God, why you wear the same fucking thing? Taylor got the African earrings because she saw Taylor Rooks with the African chain in the breakfast club interview.

First of all, fighter. I've been had this. Don't even try it. Never seen him. Point is. Never seen you. The point is,

because I've been trying to understand, like, why is it that, I guess, and I'm aside, maybe Matt Mastra P looks at things like this. You probably look at things like this. I look at things like this. And it's like every situation is an opportunity if you see it in that way. You know, like I think a lot of people what happened with the pandemic is, you know, they're like, oh, my God, we can't go to comedy clubs or we can't go into the radio. We can't do anything.

We got to shut everything down. And I know a lot of like my colleagues, they just moved into their parents' place. They went back home. They're chilling. They're doing nothing waiting for shit to come back. And all of us at the studio. like, oh, it's go time. It's go time. We got an opportunity. This is an opportunity. This is not the opportunity to sit back, relax, and do nothing. This is an opportunity to go hard

when everybody else might just be relaxing. Maybe. Maybe believing in yourself gives you vision and maybe not believing in yourself blind you. Oh, 100%. You know what I'm saying? That shit could be right in front of you and you will not see it because you don't believe in yourself to be able to. Got your head down, you're moping, you're not paying attention. That's why I talk about Tupac said, keep your fucking head up. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Give your goddamn head to the sky. Like, for real. Like, I, um, I, uh, yeah, it's hard to explain vision, bro. And I can't do it anymore. And the reason I can't do it anymore is because I'm the type of person that likes to, I'll say something. I'll be like, yo, this is going to happen. Yeah.

Are, our, are, that person is next. The only reason you might remotely catch me explaining it because we got a fucking podcast and we got a fill an hour and a half. Other than that, I wouldn't try. I wouldn't care to explain shit to y'all motherfuckers. I'd just rather show you. I'd rather say it. And then see it happens.

And then when it happens, it happens. Yeah. You know? Because what happens when you have belief in yourself, your vision opens up so much that, bro, you really do start seeing what could happen for everybody else. Yeah. I'm not even joking. Yeah.

Like, that's why the person, people think that the person that has success is the person that people go to. It's like, no, the person that people go to is the person. that can see things that you can't see. You know how many people around me see things in me that I haven't seen in myself that have gotten me on the path that I'm currently on? And that shit don't be having nothing to do it.

Radio, don't have nothing to do it. TV. I mean, don't get me wrong. There are people that have definitely seen those things and be like, damn, could I do that? Right. Like, you have to be that kind of person. Can you see something in somebody

that they can't see in themselves? Can you see something someone is doing and be like, yo, you know what that person really should be? Yeah. They should be doing that. Right. And guess what? The person that you're talking about

has to believe in themselves, are they not going to believe you? Yeah. That's what they have to believe that their ideas are good. They have to believe their ideas can be successful. I remember something

that Duval said to me once and it's something I always remember it's a, you can't change the situation, change your perspective. And that is what I take into everything that could ever happen in my life.

I cannot change a situation, change perspective. I cannot do stand-up comedy. right now. I could just fucking be angry and bitch about it all day and whine on Instagram about how much I miss being on stage or I could find another way to tell jokes. Or I could find another outlet. Reach even more people. You've reached more people in the past four months than you have in your whole career.

It's not even close. But I wouldn't even be here if I didn't have that idea, right? And I think that I gravitate towards something I have in me already, but he articulated it so well. So now when I see this thing happen, when I see stages shut down or even anything, it could be anything with podcasts. It doesn't matter what it is. My mentality is not to go,

oh, how fucked are we? My mentality to go is, how can I take advantage of this? Let's talk about it, right? Yeah. I like celebrating my people. Let's talk about it because Andrew did something that, for years, I never understood why comedians didn't do.

Because I always, and, you know, comedians tried to explain it to me over the years. I just always thought that was whack. First person I saw do it was Kevin Hart. Right. And what that is, come out with new material all the fucking time. Right. I used to hear comedians say, oh, well, you know,

I took me years to do this, hour set, whatever, whatever, yada, yada, yada, this and that. And I'm like, rappers write raps all the time. Right. Authors write books all the time. Like, all of this shit that's happening in the world every day, I listen to comedians. y'all funny all the time. Right. Why can't you go out there and give some of this shit out all the time?

Andrew, you did that. You said, fuck it. I'm going to start giving some of this material away. First, it was cutting up your stand-up specials. Then it was, man, let me sit down and break down some of this shit that's happening during the week and just throwing it out there. You know how many comedians are scared to death to do that shit, bro? Man, they should be.

It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work, bro. What's easy? Tell me what's easy. Nothing good is easy. I will be honest, nothing good is easy. But, uh, but, but, uh, but, no, it is, it is a lot of work, bro, but it's a lot of work, but it's effortless for you. Thank you, man.

It's a lot of work, but it's effortless for you. Deepak Chopin talks about the law of least effort. The, the most effortless thing for Andrew Schultz to do is make a joke. I appreciate that. That's just the truth. That's your thing. So even though it is a lot of work to sit down and do, the easiest thing for you to do is make a joke.

We actually try to get you to stop making jokes about every fucking thing all the goddamn time. If you take something serious, just fucking once, Andrew Shultz. I got a shout out. I got a shout out my guys, man, do the monologue with me, Alex Media and Mark and Robbie and Miles, you know, just for putting into work every single week because that shit is a lot of work, a lot of sacrifice,

There's a lot of angry girlfriends, so I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Well, don't think. A lot of angry girlfriends over here, bro. We got pissed off wifey's. Hey, don't think for one second, I'm not offering y'all some goddamn money to come in my writers. We know we got you. You know we got you, bro.

Because motherfuckers talk about diversity in the writers room. We got some white boys in that, bro. I need some wild-ass white boys. I need some wild-ass white boys. Wild-ass white boys that are in here challenging. I'm not even joking when I say this, bro. I need enough of everything. And I want this to be a lesson for everybody.

You need enough of everything to keep you centered. Yo, can I explain some shit to you, bro? And I mean this sincerely. And this is why, and I'm not saying this as like some like liberal talking point. I promise I am not. I'm telling you this as someone who has experienced writing these monologues every single week. When you have a diverse group of opinions, you have a better product.

The fact that these writers' rooms for these shows could only be one group of people explains to me why they always have one opinion. Yes. The reason why our shows or these monologues that we're doing is so good, and they're the best. I believe they're the best monologue in the world right now, hands down. The reason why is because we go through person after person, different types of people, different experience, we're on the phone, we're doing more research we are writing jokes,

so that we can get to the truth of the point. How all these late night shows are just a bunch of white dudes, how they do, it's like how SNL is just a bunch of white dudes? Well, now they've diversified SNL more, but like, it's mind-boggling to me. Why you wouldn't want to have different opinions because it makes the joke better, It makes it more nuance.

It makes more specific. Do you know what I'm saying? In order for everybody. First of all, I like moderate. I like center. Because I don't think that there's one thing that's too much to his way, this much to the right. I don't want to just be to the left.

I want to take it back now, y'all. You know what I'm saying? I want to do one hop this time. Right foot, let's stomp. Let's stop. Left foot, let's thompe. Cha-cha real smooth. That's all I want to do.

I want to cha-cha real goddamn smooth. And the only way you can cha-cha-cha-ha-reau. real smooth is if you go to the left a little bit, go to the right. All right, take it back now, y'all. And then you come back to the cha-cha. That's all I want to do. I want to cha-cha real smooth. And I promise you the world would be a better place if everybody

knew how to goddamn cha-cha-slide. Yo, you know why? It's because when, at least when I believe, when we were younger, the left and the right were like this far apart. Right? So the space in between was small. So it was easy to be left. And it was easy to be right because they weren't that far apart. Now the left is here and the right is here.

You know why? So the space is huge in the middle. It's huge. So the majority of people are in the middle. So when we make these pieces, we're speaking to the middle, which is the most reasonable way of thinking. It's the people that just use a little bit of logic.

That's it. Speaking of logic, we're going to get to him soon. But it's just a little bit of logic, a little bit of objectivity. Yeah. Like people who aren't trying to. Some compassion, some empathy.

hey, but people who aren't trying to be right, they just want to know what the truth is to a certain extent. And I'm not even saying that everything I say is the truth, everything you say is the truth. All I'm simply saying is that when you have everybody fighting over power, you never really get to the point. Because everybody's just fighting over power. It's not about the point.

It's about the power. It's about the power. It's not about the point. It's not about actually getting to a level of understanding. It's simply about no, I want power. My side is right. We need the power. It's a tug of war.

Everybody's tugging, tugging, tugging, tugging, when the actual point to the matter is in the middle. And you know who suffers when it comes to government when that happens? The consumer. Fucking people. The average person. That average fucking person. If you look at like our political views, like if you look at the politicians that represent us right now,

they're catering to the extremes. You got Trump, regardless of how you feel about Trump, he caters to the extreme. And Biden, I don't know who the fuck he caters to. I know a lot of people cater into him. If this guy is even still alive. But you have like a Bernie Sanders who's even, who's possibly, you know, close to becoming president, represents one extreme of the political system. Where is this center?

Who's the guy or girl in the middle who's just fucking reasonable? They're not there. because everybody's the center is afraid of talking because if they say the wrong thing, they get consumed by their party. Chris, Chris, you was talking about this last night. You had a good point to this. Chris, jump in.

I mean, wouldn't you argue that Obama was essentially a centrist but the scene is radical because of his race? I think Obama was, if anything, a little right of center. He was. I agree. Obama was absolutely a centrist and they radicalized him because of his skin color. Of course, but when you also look at Obama,

you look at the people that came out to vote. vote for him and you see a lot of people cross the aisle. Yes. You saw a lot of people. And they crossed the aisle because they felt that they were represented by him. He's reasonable. He was logical. Same with Clinton.

Clinton did the exact same thing. You saw a lot of people cross the aisle for Clinton back in a day. I don't remember Clinton. I mean, I was old enough, but I wasn't giving a fuck back. Well, Bill Clinton ousted Bush. I mean, it's hard to win the presidency when you have an incumbent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, so it's like who was, I believe, fresh off a war, didn't pull.

Bush go to war? Yeah. I mean, Biden is essentially a centrist, if we're being honest. Yeah, you're right about that. He is, but you just don't know anything about Biden's policies.

You're just not sure what the fuck is. Leans very conservative to me, but I guess, I guess he's a centrist. I mean, Obama, and it's funny because I was just having this conversation with somebody this weekend.

If, if those people who listened to Fox News actually didn't listen to Fox News but actually listened to President Barack Obama, they'd be like, I like this guy. This guy, he's, he, he's, he's, he's, he's more in tune with us than, then, then we might be,

we might be thinking just because he goes to war. He kills tons of Muslims. Bro, he didn't believe in gay marriage till the second term. Didn't believe in gay marriage. He's hard as fuck on immigration. If you just said those things, Republicans might be like, yo, this is the dude. But he's willing to listen to everybody. Now, here's the thing about that.

Being a president that's more centrist does not get you remembered in history. It gets you appreciated. In my opinion, it gets you appreciated in the moment. But in history, you end up letting down both parties. So they kind of look back and you go, oh, well, he didn't do enough for us. And then other parties are like, oh, he didn't do enough for us. Whereas a guy like Reagan, who Democrats look at and they go, oh, fuck, man, this guy completely screwed us over.

Look what he did to black neighborhoods and putting drugs in the communities, et cetera. And then you have Republicans look at Reagan and go, he was the consummation. conservative professional. He was a true president. I'm a Reagan conservative, et cetera. So for longevity, maybe it's better to pander to your party. But for now, to take care of your people now and to make the people happy now during your presidency,

maybe it's better to be centrist. You think that's off, Chris? No, I mean, I think the problem is when there are centrist, we still treat them as radicals is the problem. Right. I think Obama's the perfect example of that. Like Obama, I have, you know, he's not left enough for me. But to the right, he was a radical.

He was a communist. He was an agent. He was born overseas. So it's like, I think, you know, ultimately I'll take a centrist right now. My preference would be to go way left of that. I'd take a centrist in a heartbeat right now because I think we have to center the ship. Yo, I just, I just want somebody that listens to everyone. Charla, here's a question.

Mm-hmm. How much should we sacrifice in our purpose? in our presidential, in our presidential selection. Like, I understand we should be selfish in who we choose to be president of the United States. But should we also be selfless? Should we also go, okay, I don't really care about this thing or this issue doesn't matter to me by understand it really matters to these people. And I can support this guy who's looking after them. How much do we sacrifice in our decision is what I'm trying to say?

Well, it depends on what position you're in in life. Like, I've always said, you know, vote my interest. I'm going to vote my interest. And my interest happened to be, you know, black people. I'm just honest about that. You know, and I care about, you know, the economic equality of black people. But if there's something that can benefit other oppressed and marginalized groups, just anything to help people.

Like, it don't even matter. Like, if something is going to help and I see that there's somebody who can get in position, and implement some policies that's going to help people. Yeah, I'm all for that. I wonder if that like... If Trump had a... If Trump had a universal health care plan or universal basic income

that I know immediately would impact this country, right? And help people, I would be like, yeah, rock with that. What if we like educated... I don't want to tell people how to vote for them. I don't want to tell people how to vote, but like, what if we're... if we educated people on the expectation of voting? You know, like one thing I'm always trying to manage in my relationship is expectation.

You know, like if I tell my girl, I'm going to be available all week and then I'm not, she's going to feel way worse than if I tell her I'm not available all week and then all a sudden I become available a little bit, right? Because the expectation I set. So if we tell people, hey, your president has to agree with every single thing that you want and then they're a good president, the people always be let down. That's not true. I mean, that's bullshit.

But you know what I'm saying? Like, maybe we should tell people like, yo, have the things you really value and choose the president that's going to touch on those things, but understand he's not going to be perfect or she's not going to be perfect. There's going to be some things

that y'all disagree on. And that's okay because there's 300 fucking million people in this country. Yeah, I mean, they do it all the time. When they vote these bills, whenever you talk to somebody about who voted for the 94 crime bill, if you asked Bernie Sanders,

you voted for the 94 crime bill, disproportionately impacted black and brown people. or you say to Joe Biden, you wrote the 94 crime bill. The first thing they'll say to you is, there was so much other things in the bill. There was violence against women acts and there was this and there was that. So they were willing to make the sacrifice

in regards to black and brown people being disproportionately impacted by this bill in order to lift all those other things up. So yeah, they do it all the time, so why shouldn't voters? You know what I'm saying? They're willing to make those sacrifices and vote for things that they specifically want.

So why shouldn't voters? Fuck yeah. I'm with that. I wonder if we'd be happy or if we looked at it like that. I really wonder if we just go, all right, listen, what I care about is these two things. Like, I know there's a lot of people out there that are like single issue voters. They believe that abortion should be illegal. And whatever candidate is saying that they're going to get rid of abortion, they're voting for them.

They don't give a fuck about anything else on a platform. And I don't think that that's, I don't know if that's necessarily smart for like the greater good of America. but I wonder if their expectations of their candidate are far less and therefore they're much happier as long as they try to get that single thing that they're interested in across. I got two things I want right now. What's that? I want an economic equity package for black people,

you know, whether you want to call it reparations, whatever you choose to call it, I want to see this country atone for this original sin, which is slavery. You know, imagine Biden wrote the crime bill and the reparation bill. What's wrong with that? That'd be hilarious in terms of like evolution. Well, he could write the bill as president, but he would actually be the one signs it into law. That would be a wild, that would be some wild growth.

He should if he gives a fuck about what happens to him after he died. Yo, think about this. If he ended up doing that, we got to get rid of cancel culture because it shows how much people can grow and it shows redemption within your lifetime. If I'm Joe Biden, and I've been saying this, if I give a fuck about my legacy. Yeah.

I'm going to be making policy commitments to these people and these communities that I harmed. And when I get into the White House, I'm going to be, if Barack Obama was John F. Kennedy, I'm going to be Lyndon B. Johnson. Hmm.

Linda B. Johnson was probably the most progressive Democrat. He's the most progressive racist of all times. That's what I'm saying. But can you deny? Can you deny the right shack in 1964? Yeah. Can you deny the Voting Rights Act? Can you deny putting Thurgood Marshall on the Supreme Court?

Like, in matter of fact, he did three civil rights act. It was a three, it was the Civil Rights Act of 64. And then he did the Civil Rights Act of 68, which was like the housing, the housing rights act or some shit. Like, I don't know. Have racist? Look it up. Have racist created the most progressive policies?

Probably because they probably came to their fucking census. Yo, you think they're sitting there? They're just like. We fucked up, bro. This shit was hard. 48 laws of power. Never put too much trust in friends. Learn how to use enemies.

When you hire a former enemy, a former enemy will go harder for you because he's got more to fucking prove. And you never know. These people get older and they realize like, yo, we fucked up a lot of people, bro. You fucked up a lot of families. A lot of people are dead because of us.

Let me get my fucking soul right and do what I need to do. That's interesting because, like, somebody who doesn't, someone who isn't racist doesn't feel the same need to atone for a sin because they didn't call, they didn't commit the sin. Does that mean, you know what I mean?

Like, you're not, like, I don't feel any responsibility of racist because I'm not racist. But, I understand what you're saying, but think about it from this perspective as well. If you're a white person and you have empathy and you... Watch it. Watch this. Watch this. This is what I was trying to say. If I came

from a racist-ass family, Right? And like my parents and shit were racist and I grew up in this racist environment and I was the first person to not be racist. I think I'd go above and beyond because I knew what I was fighting against. Absolutely. But I came from this like progressive love and family. So when I see racist, I'm like, oh, that's just a couple people. I don't realize that that's a lot of people. It's what all white people should do, especially if you're a white male.

No. So they realize that. If you're a white male, maybe you do need to hang out with some racist. fucking minds. But if you're a white male who has a privilege, if you're in a privilege of position, I mean, you're in a privileged position and you have that privilege and you have that power, treat every other oppressed and marginalized group like you do when you get on a plane and you see somebody struggling with their back. Let them put it up because it's Corona and we're not doing up, baby.

I ain't putting your bag up. Every man, you're a piece of shit. Every man, when I see certain people get on the plane, I help. You need help with your bag. Whether it's an older one. a older man. What if it's a lesbian? What if it's a lesbian and it's like the tough lesbian? It's the book.

I got to look at the biceps, baby. Are you going to help the buch? Are you going to emasculate the lesbian in front of her lady lesbian? I got to see what the biceps look like. What them biceps look like? I'm looking at the bides and the tries. Okay, what if the buys and the tries

what if the bies and the tries are not it? But she got a shave side of her head. I'm always helping. By the way, when I get on a plane, and I see somebody in front of me, it's two reasons I'm always helping. Right. I got three kids.

Can I get to get, let me help some just the fuck on. You know what I mean? That's number one, all right? Number two is just common Curtis. Right. And, and by the way, some people get offended by that. I don't need your help. All right.

I didn't say you need it. I just offered. I wait to see them struggle a little. Yeah, but by then it's too late. Girls will let you know if they want, if like, they want you to help because they'll, like, go for the bag and they'll be like,

they'll like make sounds and shit. I've only rode on a plane like twice this year, but the new shit I've seen is they'll tell, they'll have their bag. Yeah. And they'll put their hand on the hips and they go, huh. Yeah,

they'll look around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They start grunting, making noises and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's not, it's not just women. I do it with older guys. It's just anybody that I feel could possibly use my assistant. I can't do it to a dude, bro.

I can't, I can't, I can't disrespe. Even an older guy? No, no, no. Why are they disrespect it? I let an old man leave his oxygen tank up there. I'm not taking that shit down, bro. I would never disrespect a man by taking his shit down. Whoa, bro.

That's a man, bro. You can't get another man's luggage out the thing. I once saw an old man get dragged by his luggage around the luggage conveyor belt thing. Because he was trying to get his bag and his bag got him more than he got the pack. He just fell on the bag. And I was like, he don't figure it out. That's a man. Men figure out problems like this.

It's not my responsibility. That's not my responsibility. Did he look like he was Superman in that hole? Watch me woo. What the fuck, man? Listen, the moral of the story is, I think that whenever you have privilege, whenever you have power,

whether you're a white man, black man, whatever it is, if you can help somebody else, do it. So to your point, even if you aren't racist, you see what the fuck's going on in America. If you see how you can help, help. And that goes back to my whole original point

that I was talking about how we enjoy watching car crashes. Yeah. When the simplest concept, Andrew, literally the simplest concept is to help not hurt. It's just that simple. Help, not hurt.

That's it. How are you helping every day? Bro, you know what's crazy? We can't even help without videotaping it now. Oh, I hate them type of people. You know what? I really do not like, man.

This shit has pissed me off. You ever see those videos were like the kid gets the poor kid in school, a bag of clothes. I hate it. And like he got to do a whole video outing the poor kid as poor

to the whole world. And then House of Highlights, repost it, ESPN repost it. And the whole world knows how fucking broke this one kid is now. It's like, why can't you just give him a bag of clothes and not say shit? And then everybody looks like the kid came up.

Remember that fuck nigga? I randomly screamed out early in the podcast. That was for this moment. Again, you got to warn me before one of them come out. Bring that back. fact, I'm not even going to say that. I'm going to say, fuck boy. I hate people who do that. I really do, yo. I can't stand that. And listen, I get it. How many patch on the back you need? And I get, like, you know, some people say, oh, well,

there's so much negative out there. Sometimes, you know, you want to broadcast the positive to show people, you know, it'll be more G. It's more G when, it's more G when people talk about what you did. Let the rumor. Let the rumor go, bro. That's it. I don't got to, I don't got to do it. Like, you know, like that one time I gave a quarter million dollars to South Carolina State University when I opened up the scholarship in my mom's name. The only reason I went on the field with that big ass check is because they explained to me how this helps other people donate to the school. Yeah, you said an example. And it was, and it was literally like five other people before me. and like one other person after me,

OG Jim Clyburn, who, when I tried to tell him, now, you know, you're the OG, you go first, he goes, nah, nah, no, no. Go up there with you $250,000. I'm like, all right, damn, OG, go up there with my check, show the $250,000.

O.G. Jim Clyburn comes after me, $1.3 million. I'm like, all right. Stunning is my hobby. Ballin is my hobby. I see you, OG. I wasn't mad at it. But the reason they were doing that and they put on that big show

is just to encourage other people to donate, right? I don't necessarily believe those videos. Maybe it does. I don't know. Maybe it does encourage people to help when people record themselves. I don't know. I don't personally like it, but I ain't knocking nobody for it. Do your thing?

Yeah. I agree. It's like maybe it gets more poor kids clothes. And in the long run, that's good. because I'm not getting them to close, but at the same time I look at it, it's like, it's kind of exploited, bro. It is.

I don't like seeing people profit off other people's pain. Unless it's jokes. I really don't. Unless it's who? Unless it's jokes, because them shits are funny, bro. It depends. But also, I feel like if people,

some, just to play, what do you say, devil's advocate, whatever? Yeah. Regular devil's advocate. Regular devil's advocate. The play Philly Sixer.

not white devils maybe this makes other people aware of what's going on too though You're right You know what I mean Your fame brings awareness And that helps more in the long run Yeah

And sometimes you gotta do some You know shit I'll be honest though If I ever give a quarter million dollars To anybody the world is gonna know about it I promise you that much I'm gonna carry that check with me For a week

I'm gonna carry like a surfboard Wherever the fuck I go That check is coming with me My daddy took it Me. My daddy took it because I was home in South Carolina and I had it in my mom house. And my daddy said, I ain't never seen no shit like this in my life. Knowing him, you probably tried to cash that mother.

He, motherfucker. Of course he did. I wouldn't. If I found that shit, I walked right in the Chase Bank. Like, yo. Yo. You got this? Especially down south.

You're like, yo, look here. That's how big money comes on big checks. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. You know what? I take that back. I don't knock nobody.

if you want to videotape your good deeds, do your fucking thing. Because if it encourages other people to do it. It sounds extra. It is. When Adrian Brunner be doing that shit, I'm not here for it. You know what?

I'm going to tell you what I don't like. I don't like when they do it to homeless people. Yeah. Because homeless people are already in a fucked up condition, bro. Like, don't do that to them, man. Like, how do you know that this person wants to be seen on camera in this way? I mean, they're on the street. Don't do that.

They're on the street, bro. I don't, don't, they already probably don't have, and I don't want to say they don't have no dignity because I don't know these people. These people might be the most happiest people in the world. They might have their head held high. I'm just saying I wouldn't do that then. I'm not going to put their condition out there.

That's the same thing with the poor kid at school, though. It's like he don't want you to videotape it. Like now when he wears any, all that shit the next day, like everybody's make, oh, yeah, that's the clothes that John gave you. Let him just be fly. By the way, I wouldn't donate nothing to you poor kids. that school because you look at Instagram, ain't none of y'all motherfuckers poor.

Y'all kids be bawling. When is the last time you seen a poor kid in a high school? You can't be poor on Instagram? Yeah, but maybe, yeah. When the last time? Show me the last time. I think there's still poor kids, bro.

I think there's still poor kids left. No, I know that they are. But via Instagram, you cannot find them. Bro, you know what you got to do if you're poor? You got to get a good body. could just not wear a shirt. What do you mean? Like if you just have ripped abs and shit,

all the, every time you're on Instagram, just be shirtless. Yeah, but you can get ripped abs from not eat. Exactly. So now you're not eating. You got all these ripped abs.

And then you don't need to spend all this money on fucking shirts and hoodies and all that shit. Just be on the gram flexing with your shirt off. That's kind of a way of getting around poverty when you think about it. I would do that if I had a smartphone,

Andrew. Say what? I would love to be on. on Instagram flexing, but I'm homeless. I don't even have a phone. Are we talking about kids in school? I know.

We're talking about homes. The goal post keeps getting moved with these poor homeless kids, okay? I'm just talking about the poor kid in school. Also, keep it in the bubble, bro. Why don't they ever share the video of like when they give the poor kid

the backpack of clothes and the poor kid didn't know that he was bummy until he got the clothes? Like, you know, the poor kid is like he opens up the bag. I'm not going to lie. Homelessness hurts the fuck out of me.

That's sure hurts to see somebody living on the street. Yeah. I'm not even going to lie to, especially in America and especially when it's a fucking veteran, you mean to tell me I went to fight for this goddamn country and I don't got shit to show for it? Yeah. Like, I feel like if you went to fight for this country,

if you was in any war, you should get taken care of for the rest of your life. It really would not, it really would not cost much to take care of no veteran, bro. Amen. Make sure they got room and board. Make sure they got money for food every month. give them a stipend, make sure that their bills are paid, make sure they got proper health insurance.

Like, what the fuck, man? Yeah, you give your life, your life should be taken care of. I think one thing, though, and, you know, you probably know about this from your work in mental health, is that a lot of homelessness is due to mental health. It's not... See my shirt? Ah, I see.

Therapy is dope, right? But, yeah, man, it's like a lot of these people on the streets are crazy, and then, you know, their family dies, or they lose their family, and there's just no support system for them. and it's really tricky. And that's why if you attack mental health... Well, that's the thing. If you attack mental health,

you actually save a lot of problems. Like you save, you know, you solve the homelessness problem, at least a lot of it. You know, you solve a lot of the, what's it called, you know, a lot of this prison reform that you want to do, a lot of these people that keep going to jail

and they keep ending up in jail are suffering from mental illness. So if you attack mental illness, you could solve a lot of prison stuff. You could solve a lot of homelessness. You got to get to the rule of the problem. bro. We keep dismissing it. We keep dismissing people as fucking crazy. Well, they are crazy.

We're really, I mean, I don't like to use that word, but, you know. Hey. I get what you're saying. You know what I mean? We're also in an era where people don't have empathy, right? So when you don't have empathy, you don't give a fuck about what somebody else is feeling. Not even thinking about it. I've been probably depressed, like, and had real bad anxiety for, like, the past since, like, June. like really bad. Like ever since Jazz died and then my man Shaq and Anguilla,

he committed suicide. And then just like, it's almost like I can't allow myself to feel good at a time like this. Like meaning like if anything good, if anything good happens, right? Like if, like if I know something good is about to happen in my life,

PTSD immediately kicks in like, all right, so where's the, where's the other shoe that's about to drop? Where's that, where's that, somebody's going, yo, I'm to the point now when people call me, if you call me back to back, I'm like, man, hold the fuck up, man, let me say it. I'm bracing myself

to hear some bullshit. You understand what I'm saying? But that shit keeps you in a constant state of anxiety, keeps you in a constant state of PTSD. I have these extreme highs and extreme lows. I'm talking about extreme highs. I'm talking about waking up on a Saturday morning feeling light and good. Like, I'm on a fucking pill. Like,

yes. And then the next Saturday, I'm in the backyard, like, I don't know if I want to hug this tree. I I can hang myself from it. Which one is it? Like, seriously, I'm serious. And you got to laugh to fucking keep from crying out this motherfucker. But guess what?

In the words of 45, it is what it is, baby. The fuck a week of me. It is what it is. What the fuck am I going to do? I do everything. I go to therapy. I talk to my sacred purpose coach. I read.

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I got a beautiful wife, a beautiful family, beautiful friends, beautiful support system. Sometimes you just can't escape what the fuck your feeling. You just can't. Yeah, don't escape it. Just feel it. I think that's the biggest problem for most people is they try to escape it. Yeah.

You can't run away from your feelings, man. They chase you. But you got to acknowledge it. Lean into them. You got to lean into it. That's what I'm like, I'm, like, I've been, you know, since June, I've been fucked up. Bro, if you cannot change the situation, change the perception, bro.

Change the perception. Stop running away from those suicides, man. See what you learned from them. What did you learn from them? What has changed? What great things, and I know it sounds crazy to even say, but like what great things have come to you from them? What great realizations have come from?

What profound things have happened to you since then that you can use for your life? Like, you could, they could be an anchor that holds you down forever and stops you from moving, or they could be the, you know, a set of wings, man. I'm not all the way there yet, but I will say it is, there was something I was already working on that when, when jazz happened, which was so wild, because when jazz happened, literally the next day, I was on a Zoom meeting about this thing.

And then my man Shaq committed suicide later on in the month. And I, uh, it just made me, like, I, yeah, I'm on the right path. This is what I have to do. It just makes me want to do more of the work, is what I'm saying. It makes me want to double, triple down on the work. I want to see so many black and brown people,

men, women, going to therapy. I want to be able to provide people with the help they need, the resources they need. Like, I want to see so many people just go out there and start getting to a place of healing, in a real way. G Herbo just did that. Salute to G. Herbo.

I think it's called the, I know it's called swerving something. I can't remember exactly what the name of his organization is, but G. Herbo just launched his foundation. And I salute G. Herbo, because G. Herbo's a young man. You know what I mean? And I didn't have a handle on my emotions

on my mental health when I was in my 20s. I wasn't even thinking about that shit. You know, even though I got diagnosed with, I didn't get diagnosed with anxiety until I was like 31, 32. That's when the doctor told me like, yo, you suffer from anxiety. You have panic attacks, right?

So I didn't even know what it was. So for somebody like G. Herbal in his 20s to actually already have a handle on it and already, you know, doing the work, I got to salute him. Because I'm going to be honest with you. If I hadn't started doing the work four or five years ago, bro, I don't know if I could have got past.

I don't know if I could have got through the last three months. To be totally honest. And I've been having that conversation, right? Like, I've been thinking, you know, what gets a person to the point of suicide? Because, because, because think about it, right? Like, you had to get up this morning and say, I'm coming to the studio. Yeah. To do this podcast.

What, what gets the person to the point where they say, I'm leaving today? I don't even like. I'm checking out. I don't even like going down that path, man. I don't even like thinking about that. But, but, but I don't, I don't. either, but I can't sit here and act like, you know, you don't think about it sometimes, you know, especially when you've had two friends do it.

Like, you're like, what, what got them to that point? Like, I know both of these people. These are people that I, like, jazz is my girl, like, in a real way. And, you know, she got diagnosed with depression when she was 19. And, you know, we always dealt with anxiety and everything throughout the years. We helped lift each other up. But what gets you to that point where you're like, today is the day I'm out, bro? you get to a point.

Same thing that happened to Tamar, same thing. Like, I have a few friends that suffer with depression. And I know with one, like, I feel like they think this is never going to get better. But one has a child, and that's what keeps them, like, keep going and stuff like that. But yeah, at the same time, I know someone else that had a child and committed suicide. And I guess they felt like they didn't deserve to even have their child almost. Like, and I think it just has, I think it just hits a point. Like, it says it's one of those, you keep taking,

you keep taking in, then. Yeah. And listen, I don't want nobody to think Shalameen to God is suicidal. I'm not suicidal in no way shape of form. What I'm trying to tell y'all is you, you, you, death is constantly, death has been on my mind for the past two months in a real way. But that's only because I know that there's so much death around her.

You know what I'm saying? Like, the whole year has been rooted in death, bro. Like Kobe. And I mean, I can go. back to Nipsey last year, but this year, Kobe, coronavirus, George Floyd, Amad Aubrey, Jazz, Shat. It's like, what the fuck is going on out here in these streets? You know, pop smoke, like, all this thing. You're like, what the hell? You hear, you hear all of these random stories, one-year-old's getting killed. And this friend, I'm like, yo, what the

fuck is going on? So it's hard not to always constantly think about death and think about your own mortality. And, yo, honestly, it does. It takes you, it gets you in a dark place. It does make you depressed. It does. It makes you depressed. It makes your anxiety be at an all-time high. It makes your PTSD go crazy. What did you say, Taylor? I had to hit you because I was feeling like depressed a couple months ago just seeing all these deaths just keep happening. And I'm, and I'm pressing, death is always sadly on my mind and especially this year. And it's like, we used this thing. I mean, I didn't even cut you off. I mean, I'm only going to listen, when people like, when people like,

like Taylor hit me. People like Page. People hit me in there, you know, they be in a little funk. And the first thing I say to them, every time is like, look, please don't tell me you about to kill yourself. Because I cannot handle any more goddamn

death to someone. I'm serious, but it sounds crazy, but I'm being honest. Like, let's talk this shit to fuck out. Let's figure it out. Like, do you need me to call somebody for you? Because I'm not the person that's qualified to have that conversation.

I'm the New Jersey license plate. I can get you to New York. All right? I can, I'm just a sign. I can tell you what you might need to be doing and what you need to be doing is sitting down and talking to somebody. But I'm telling you,

a lot of people have been going through it the past few months, bro. And that's the other thing that gives me encouragement and uplifts me is when I'm talking to people who are way in a worse place than I am. Because mine really is just coming

from a place of sadness. Right? I'm sad. If I'm being honest, I'm sad. I'm sad, right? I'm sad. like I'm, I'm sad, right? So I go through these moments where I can be happy and joyous and laughing and

with my people and then start thinking about the bullshit. Yeah. Like, God damn it. And I say it to myself, I was like, fuck jazz really dead. Like, shit, fuck, Shaq really dead. And then I still find myself reaching for my phone, the text jazz and shit. Like, it's like, that shit is crazy. That shit is really, uh, yeah, that shit can really take you in a bad place, man.

We ain't got no bills to pay. Yes, we did. I was what I was saying, yeah. Let's say, yeah. Let's get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Right. Hey, by the way, this is not an ad,

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but, you know, if you need somebody to talk to, man, you know, they provide free and confidential for support for people in distress, you know. Everybody may not have a support group of friends or a therapist like I do. I literally, and it's so interesting, I just went to my phone and it was Paige texting me saying, hey, your therapist is available tomorrow at 3. It's actually the first time I'm going to see her in person since this whole pandemic, which should be very helpful.

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Now let's get back to the show. That's right. Let's get back to the show. Things we won't give a fuck about next week. I have to address logic. Salute the logic, the rapper. Um, Logic just put a new album out. Is Logic Black?

Oh, he's biracial. Is he? Yeah, he's biracial. Does he ever talk about that? Yeah, all the time. Does he ever rap about that, money chance? All the time. Oh, he does?

All the time. Oh, really? Yeah. You sure he mentions it? All the time. Oh, okay. Can you pick up on my sarcasm? Oh, I got it now.

I didn't. I don't know. What's the name of Logic's new album called? Or he is a lot. It's his last album. He's retiring. I don't like to dismiss anybody's feelings. Okay.

Because I wouldn't, what's it called? No pressure, I think. No pressure? I don't. Okay. I wouldn't want anybody to dismiss mine. It's just that when I hear, and I'm not saying this is logic at all,

I'm just telling you how I'm feeling about this situation. When I hear people say certain things when their albums come out. I don't know if that's how they really feel or if they're just doing it because it garners some type of attention, some type of promotion. You know, last time, Logic put out an album. I don't know if it was the last time, but it was recently. And he dissed me on the album. It wasn't a diss. He just had some bars for me. And he said something like to the effect of, you know, he don't do breakfast club interviews. Charlemagne is rude. And then he bought up me saying he was homophobic, which I never actually said. What I did was I got some bad research clearly because somebody in the prep sheet

had said that Logic had said in a Vlad TV interview that he would be uncomfortable to listen to a gay rapper or something to that effect. So I did what anybody does when they're interviewing somebody. I asked him about those comments. And we can play a clip of it. You got the clip tail? Yeah. Let me hear it. Your father was a crackhead. right. He was. He's doing good now. He's sober now. But it's crazy. It's all about experience. That's why, honestly, me, because I don't smoke weed, I don't drink, which is fine. You can do whatever

you do. I think it's good in moderation. But me, you know, witnessing my mother getting her ass whooped by man as a child dealing with the aftermath of my sister's being raped. Totally wrong clip. I was leading up to that. Okay. Round of applause to Taylor for totally playing the wrong clip that had nothing to do with what I was discussing

just now. Okay. I mean, literally I'm sitting here and I'm like, like, you know, he said that I called him homophobic and I didn't call him homophobic. And I'm like, Taylor, do you have the clip of me asking him about the homophobic thing on Vlad TV? If you think you're confused, I mean, God. You cannot imagine what the rest of us are feeling right now. I was going somewhere at this. Taylor just gave away the climax to this whole conversation immediately, Taylor.

My God. God. No, we're not. We're going to keep this. No, no, we're keeping this in, Taylor. This is the brilliant idiot. So they're just going to have to hear this twice. Why was he talking about his sisters getting rapid?

We'll get to that show. We'll get to that. Let's hand it the homophobia part for us. Okay. Duane, do you have that part? There we go. Okay. I saw you do an interview with Vlad TV,

and you said that it would be very uncomfortable for you to listen to a gay rapper talking about kissing a dude. Did I say that? I don't know. I thought you said you saw it, Charlemagne. I said that? Yeah, you said that.

I don't think I said that because. Well, he said that. Shout out. Shout out to one of my favorite people of all time in the world. Ricky, my stylist, who is a gay man. Don't look to make it look. I am very comfortable with my sexuality. I am comfortable with the gay community.

I believe in all people. I will say, I don't know exactly how they got written. You know, Vlad headlines be crazy. Yeah, I know. They do be kind of crazy. But that's how you should watch it before you just pull that headline. Yeah, no, no, no. My goodness.

I was, listen, I was so wrong. All right. Now, by the way, I saw that headline somewhere, right? But I didn't actually listen to the audio clip, so I don't know if he actually said that or not. But that's why it's a question. And when you ask a question in an interview, then a person can dismiss it.

It's not like I said, logic, you're homophobic. You said that you wouldn't kiss a person, yada, yada, yada, yada. I don't think you asked them a question. I think you just said it. I think you were like, you said in a bad minute in an interview. I lied. I did an interviewer trick. I acted like I saw something.

Yeah. Because I was so sure that whoever put this in my prep sheet had to have watched it, right? Whoever put this in my prep sheet had to have watch it. So they had to know what they're talking about. Taylor? No, it wasn't Taylor. Who wasn't?

I don't know who was doing the prayer. It was definitely an intern, but I don't think it was Taylor. Oh, my Lord. I really thought you were about to drop one of them fuck? No, no, no, no. Because it's not their fault. That's my fault. That's not that fault.

This was like 2014. I tell you, who did it. Some. I was never here when I wasn't there yet. That wasn't saying you, babe. Because that's my fault. But that's what you do. You know, you trust the people around you.

So if that's in your prep sheet and you see it, and you're like, oh, that's interesting. But I bought it up as a question or I lied and said I saw it. He was like, I don't think I necessarily said that. So if it pops back up that he did say that, then he's lying. Right. But in the meantime, I'm wrong. He's not even lying.

He's like, I don't think I said that. I don't know. So nobody's lying. Well, you were lying about saying he's something. I was lying about seeing it. So it's just everybody's fucking bullshit in each other. All right. But in that instance, he's absolutely right.

If he wants to say I was trying to label him homophobic and he wants to say, I was trying to label him homophobic. And he wants, cool. I'm not mad at that. Slew to you, Logic. Now, this part. This part has nothing to do with Logic a little bit because I saw Logic's interview to do with my man Rob Markman on Genius.

And Logic said on Genius. that, you know, he respects me and I respect, he respects what I do, yada, yada, yada. But on the internet, they took this clip. This shit has been going around for at least four or five years. They take this clip and it starts with, who raped your sister? And a lot is like, y'all don't want to talk about that. I want to talk about that. I don't talk about that.

So it makes it seem like I just pulled that out of my ass. I just pulled that out of the sky. When the reality is he mentioned someone sexually assaulting his sister twice in that interview. And he's wrapped about it in his music, just like he talks about his father being on crack or whatever. So there's context to it. Let's play the clip again because people have forgotten about it, but now that they hear it, Taylor, your moment to shine. Go, Taylor, Taylor. Taylor. He was. He's doing good now. He's doing it now. He's sober now. But it's crazy. That's why, honestly, me, because I don't smoke weed, I don't drink, which is fine. You can do

whatever you do. I think it's good in moderation. But me, you know, witnessing my mother getting her ass who by man as a child dealing with the aftermath of my sisters being raped. Things like this. Do your family members get upset that you put their life out there? Like you said, your sisters got raped? Your father was on crap. Great question. I think they understand because I've spoken to him. I don't out nobody.

I have a lot of brothers and I have a lot of sisters. It's kind of a culmination of all our stories as a whole. I talk about it on the aisle. Who the hell raped your sisters? Oh man, I don't want to get into that. That's a little too person. Now, Andrew, you're an honest person. Right?

Andrew, you're an honest person. Yeah. Tell me if I was out of line. No. Why wasn't I out of line? Because I see people in context, right? I can understand if you just see that from the end where it's like, who the hell raped your sister? And I don't want to talk about that.

I would even go so far as to say, I'm not saying this because you're my friend, because I think it's really funny when you ask questions that you don't mean to ask. And I like making funny for it. But that being said, if somebody brings up the fact that their family member was raped and you don't follow up that question, doesn't that seem like you're being insincere in the interview? Like, you're having dinner with somebody or you're having any kind of conversation. They bring up a traumatic thing out of nowhere that you didn't ask. They bring it up. And then you should go, well, anyway, what do you think is going to happen with the Super Bowl?

Didn't that seem a little weird? And they bring it up again. So I'm like, okay, clearly this person wants to talk about it. And when I asked him, I said, hey, you know, do your family members get mad at you, you know, when you. Very reasonable. Like your father's on crack or your sister. That's their business. You're sharing it.

Logic actually said great question. Then he answered what I asked him. So when I came back, I said, well, who the hell raped your sister? I asked that question because I just. assume you've throwing it out there a couple of times. Maybe you want to out some family members or maybe you want to out the piece of shit who did that to your sister?

I don't know. But the fact that you said it twice in an interview and you've rapped about it is the reason I asked you. So, you know, that has nothing to do with logic, even though I feel like when he was in the interview with Rob Markman, logic, no, I didn't ask him that question out of context.

And he didn't know that. He know I didn't just randomly ask him that question. said that you asked him out of context. Well, he said that, you know, yeah, Shalry made ask me wild shit, like, you know, who raped my sister, what am I doing for the Black Lives Matter movement? Or he said I was homophobic. I'm like, I didn't say you were homophobic.

I was wrong. Can I ask you a question? Yes. Because this is where I thought you were going with it, and I don't know if you were. I thought that you were assuming that after he suggested that his mom was abused by his dad, that possibly his dad abused his sister.

I was thinking it was something in the family. That's where I thought you would go with. Yeah, I was just thinking it was something in the family. That's why I said, well, who the hell if you said? That's what I was thinking it was something in the family. It was about a family conversation and the dysfunction of his family. Exactly. That's all.

That's all. I mean, I didn't want to just say, hey, did your father leave your sister? Did the family remember? You know what I mean? I was like, well, who the hell raped your sister? Let me open it up. And he said he don't want to talk about it. Cool.

It's not like I pressed the gas on it. All I'm simple. saying is he mentioned it twice in the interview. That's why I asked it. The internet you motherfuckers are evil. Because literally for the past four to five years, it's the same line. Let's flash back to when Charlemagne asked

the worst question in interview history. And it literally starts with me saying, who the hell raped your sister? So that's like, yo, man, I got this thing, man. I'm going to post this later today. It's just a quote. And it's just a simple quote. right here. The version of me you created in your mind is not my responsibility.

So when people get really mad about me, mad at me about shit and say, oh, Shalama's a piece of shit and this and that, y'all created this version. Yeah. I'm not saying that I haven't given y'all plenty of ammo. Yeah. I'm just simply saying the times I've fucked up, let me own that and get on my ass. But y'all really be reaching and making shit up. And I just don't like I just don't like logic feeding into that. That's all. Because logic, no, I didn't ask him that out of context. I mean, from the marketing I've seen so far,

and granted, this is only the internet stuff that come up. I'm not a, you know, on a sewer of logic or his music or any of that stuff. And from everything I've seen just in, like, regular interviews, it seems like a pretty reasonable dude. I don't know. Nothing that really angers me about it. I tease him about the black thing,

because I understand he looks really white. So as long as he makes sure that everybody knows he's actually black, Does he say the N-word in any raps or anything like that? I don't know. Maybe he does. If he did, I would make sure I would let everybody know I was half-black if that was the case. Right? Next time I interview him, I'll start with that one.

I'll be like, so on your last album, you said the N-word 72 times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many times would you have said if you were full of black? Sloom to logic, though, man. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't like, I didn't like... I guess what I was trying to say is that, like, it seems to me like there's been a lot of, like, I'm the victim. in the PR of this new album.

Like, I just saw one thing pop up where he said that Joe Budden makes people want to kill themselves and stuff like that. And I was going to say that. I didn't like, I didn't like that he said that. But if that's how he feels, he has every right to say it.

You know what I'm saying? And I actually, I hit logic up, you know what I mean? Because my man, Rob Markman, Rob, had said in the interview he was going to connect us. So he connected us over the weekend. And we text back and forth a little bit. And we're going to talk soon.

But, yeah, I don't like people feeling like that. Like, I can't dismiss his feelings. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can't sit here and tell him what makes him feel like he wants to kill himself or what makes him depressed. You know what I mean? Just like, can't nobody tell me what makes me sad and what makes me depressed? So if it's easy to say, yo, half thick skin, half tough skin.

But what if he doesn't? My racial skin might not be as tough as goddamn. Full 100% black or white. I don't know. See? Brough, I don't know, man. And by the way, by the way, and by the way, hold real quick. I didn't have to say that just now.

Yeah. I'm a work in progress, people. I didn't have to say that. I didn't even have to say that. I don't even know why I said that. I couldn't resist. It was right there. And something was saying, don't say this.

Don't say that right now. Don't say it. Don't say it. And I said it anyway. But, all right, hold on. Breaking News. Now, you know we record The Brilliant Idius on Wednesday. So all my thoughts, the way I was feeling at the time,

That happened on Wednesday. We just got presented with some new information. This just in, guys. Your Uncle Shaw is not crazy. Sluke to Logic. Logic had me thinking I was crazy. I know I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary. Logic said I was claiming he was homophobic.

He even rapped about it in a song last year. And then he bought it back up in the Rob Markman Genius interview. I never said he was homophobic. I asked him about something he said in a Vlad TV interview. if you don't mind Duane or Taylor, can we replay the clip of what I asked him, please? I saw you do an interview with Vlad TV and you said that it would be very uncomfortable for you to listen to a gay rapper talking about kissing a dude. Did I say that? I don't know.

I thought you said you said you saw it, Charlemagne. Yeah, you said that. I don't think I said that because, first of all, shout out. Shout out to one of my favorite people of all time in the world. world Ricky, my stylist, who is a gay man. Don't look at make it look. I am very comfortable with my sexuality. I am comfortable with the gay community. Made that up. I believe in all people.

I will say, I don't know exactly how that got written, but I probably... You know, Vlad headlines be crazy. Yeah, I know. That's how you should watch it before you just call the headline. Yeah, no, no, no. Now, I know I wasn't crazy. I saw that headline about him saying, I saw something, I saw something. I don't remember

where the hell I got it from. I know somebody had it on the paper, but I also do vaguely. remember hearing in the Vlad TV interview. It doesn't matter, okay? Listen to what he actually said. This is it. I think hip hop is about being yourself, okay? And I think, yeah, it'd be pretty difficult for me to, like, listen to a gay rapper and talk about kissing a dude.

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not really my cup of tea. You know, neither is certain type of hip hop, you know, subgenres that I'm just really not into. Yes. If you don't have the Vlad TV podcast, you should subscribe to it. It's on I Heart Radio podcast. network. And that actually came out today. And Vlad, Vlad actually put out his throwback interview from 2014 with Logic. And that is the interview that was, that I was referencing. Let's play that line one

more time. I think hip hop is about being yourself. Okay. And I think, yeah, it'd be pretty difficult for me to, like, listen to a gay rapper and talk about kissing a dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not really my cup of tea. You know, neither is certain type of hip hop, you know, subgenres that I'm just really not into. So salute to my guy, Logic. All right? Once again, I don't fuck with people for the sake of just fucking with people. But whatever.

The internet is still going to have its own narrative of me and say I'm wrong. And your uncle Charlotte doesn't care because the version of me that you created in your mind is not my responsibility. All right? Logic, we will talk soon. Now back to your regularly scheduled brilliant idiots program. Yo, but can't we just, can't we just say cut that shit out? Like, don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to dismiss mental illness and depression and anxiety and all these things.

come from a family that has tons of mental illness. I'm very familiar with it. From a young age, we've been very familiar. That being said, some of this shit is like, yo, cut that shit out, bro. Cut that shit. Nah, you can't do that. I'm sorry. You didn't get your favorite pair of sneakers, you're depressed.

Cut that shit out. You got a math test tomorrow. You got anxiety. Shut the fuck up. Cut that shit out. We can't enable too much of it. There's a lot of enabling going wrong and maybe that's because like every correction's an over-correction. Like, maybe there was no awareness of mental health.

So now there's an over awareness of mental health and then maybe we'll settle somewhere in the middle. Maybe that's the case. So maybe this is just like a necessary, you know, a bridge that we have to cross and ever to get where we want to be. But some of that shit is just cut it out, B. I wish it was that easy, Schultz.

And the reason I can't dismiss that is because like I was talking about earlier. I don't know what gets people to that point to be now. You understand what I'm saying? Like I don't know what gets you to that point now to where you say, yo, you might want to end it all. But I can honestly say I can see where for these kids,

it can't possibly be easier. Because imagine, imagine dealing with that shit. Imagine dealing with just the anxiety and depression and the low self-esteem and insecurities that come with life. And we as human beings who are a species who always need validation, who always need to feel appreciated,

who always need to feel loved. We go online and talk to all of these motherfuckers that don't give a shit about us. We express these emotions and then literally it's thousands of people telling you kill yourself. Nobody's asking you to be online though.

That's a choice. No one's asking you to make music. Nobody's asking you to do albums. No one's asking you to monetize your life and exploit your life for your art. No one's asking you. And if you are willing to do that, you have to know the cost of that.

It's like all these famous people that are upset that the paparazzi follows them around. That's the cost of being famous. And if you don't want to pay that price, then you ain't got to be famous. No one asks you to be famous. No one ever said, hey, Kim Kardashian or Brad Pitt or Sarah Jessica Parker or whatever, we want you to be famous.

No one ever asked. Y'all wanted that shit. Unfortunately, it's not going to be just mansions and millions. There's going to be a couple things that are annoying that you got to deal with. Some got to following you at a camera when you walk out of a restaurant having the best meal you've ever had in your life. I agree with that, but I think that when you deal with mental health struggles and you're not at that place, of healing. You may want to be in your life.

All of that added pressure, all of that added judgment, all of that added opinion. It can push you over the life. I get it. Yeah, and I wouldn't wish that on nobody. No, nobody wants, nobody wants,

I don't want to see anybody hurt themselves. I want to see any of that kind of stuff. And, you know, maybe I'm less sensitive than the average person just because I've dealt with the most severe versions of mental illness. When I, when I hear people like talking about how anxious they are

because it's going to rain tomorrow, I'm like, man, but maybe I should have more empathy. Maybe I should be like, okay, they're learning what this is and they're going to be able to like, you know, partition that shit out and find out what the extreme versions are and what the little stuff is. I think you should have more empathy because you watch the decline, right? And you don't know how that happens.

Yeah. So I have to have empathy for that, you know? And I've seen this happen to other people before. Like, you just like, where did that decline come from? Yo, jazz. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like I have. empathy because I don't know what drives people to that,

to that, to that, that, that's fair. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yeah, as much as I would love to say, man, man, the fuck up, or you got to have tough skin. Nah, I don't know. And I don't want to be responsible for, you know, what a person is feeling, even if my intentions weren't that. So that's, that's actually one of the reasons, you know,

I can't wait to chop it up with him. And, you know, when Rao put us together, that's what he said. He was like, man, I really appreciate everything. you do in regards to mental health. He even said that in the Rob interview, but he was just like, y'all would love to just talk with you about, you know, family and life.

And man, when I see stuff like that, it's just like, who would I be to throw my middle finger to that kid? I'll be like, nah, fuck that kid. I'm a 42-year-old grown man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I have people around me in my life that lean on me in that way.

Even though I might be going through my own shit, they lean on me in that way. And even though he's not somebody I consider a friend or I don't know him like that, if he's man enough to reach out in that way, come on, man. Of course I'm going to reply back and have a conversation with that.

See, I almost said half a brother. I'm an asshole. I'm trying here. I almost say, I literally, I literally thought about it. Did you see my brain working like, don't fucking say it. You said it.

You didn't just think about that. I fucking said it. Why the fuck did I say that? That's why nobody takes me serious. That's why I'm serious. That's why I'm serious. That's why that's exactly. why nobody takes me serious. But I trust me, my intentions are pure and salute the logic.

We're going to chop it up and we're going to build soon. I really want to just bring everybody together in that space that's having these conversations about like mental health in a real way. Logic and G. Herbal and, you know, Wale. Like, I would love to have everybody just come together and sit down with different mental health professionals like Dr. Rita Walker and Dr. Alfie Noble and Dr. Jessica Clemens and just everything. Everybody just come together and let's just, let's just chop it up and build. Create a safe space for people going through that shit right now, man. For real.

We should, yeah, we should organize something where we get everybody together and I just go, yo, cut that pussy shit out. Shut the fuck up. Stop bitching and whining. Y'all a bunch of millionaires. Deal with that shit. Money don't matter. It has Donald Trump at the end to say it is what it is.

It is what it is, y'all. Hey, it is what it is. by the way, I can tell you something, though. As crazy as it sounds. Sometimes that shit works. What? Man up, right? I've told y'all that story about the one time

where I really, really, really, really thought I was going to kill myself. And that was 2003 or four. And this one, I was, like, really in the, like, I was doing youth ministry at Muhammad Mosque number 38. And I was really trying to be on the righteous. path because my now wife had left me and I was like I'm going to be the man that she wants me to be so I was

really heavy in the religion and spirituality and doing youth ministry at the moss and going to the Baptist church I was all over the fucking place bro. Like I didn't know whether I wanted a bean pie or a Bible. I was just everywhere with it, right? And I'm at my boy's house where I'm not going to say his name anymore because he's married now and I don't know if he's told this story

to his wife. But if you're a long time brilliant, you're probably know who I'm talking about. So we at the house and, you know, we end up having a great time with two women. Manage etoire action is going down. And I thought that I was going to hell. I was like, I am going to hell. I just had sex.

And I'm, you know, I'm trying to give my life to God, but I'm out here getting drunk and having sex. I was like, I don't deserve to live. Like, I was on it like that. And I don't know if it was my, my, my, my, now wife or my boy Frosty. Somebody called my pops, and my pops drove an hour and a half from Monskorn. Came to Columbia, South Carolina.

We sitting outside the step, the steps of the apartment I was living in, and I'm telling them what happened. My daddy looked at me and my daddy said, do you mean to tell me? I drove an hour and a half because you got drunk and got some pussy? You want to kill yourself because you got drunk and got some pussy?

Well, God damn it, way to lick it in the motherfucker. women at because you got me stressed the fuck out now what the fuck is wrong with you? And that, for whatever reason, that put everything back in perspective. Yo. He was like, he was, that put everything back in perspective.

What did he do you all say? Listen, his next line after that was bruh, you ain't going to always get shit right. Sometimes people fuck up. Like, that's the, what the fuck, man? Smile, bitch. Smile, bitch. Come out.

Like, yo, it's that simple. Smile, bitch. You know what it is, though? I had an expectation of myself. There you go. And I feel like I let myself down. There it is. If you can't change the situation, change your perspective, bro.

Change your perspective on that Manasitoa. Now you look back at that. You were like, I was pounding that push. I don't even, you know, I guess. I look back on it now. And what I should have done in that moment was take my ass to the to church and confess all my sins and repent. Okay?

That's what I should have done. But what did you do? Smelled your fingers all night. Shut up. Dad was probably right next to you. Hey, let me smell that fingers too. Is that what you're doing? What?

Smell our fingers with our dads? No. What are you talking about? No, that's what you're doing. Hey, hey, the funniest part, right? I'm talking to my boy and I'm like, man, I can't be doing that no boy. He said, doing what? I said, man, sleeping with, sleeping with, you know, different women.

Like, I want to get married and do X, Y, and Z. And I'm like, no, it didn't bother you the way they was talking to us. Because, you know, they were like, get your ass in here. Take your pants, like that type of shit. And he was like, no. Smile, man. It didn't bother you? Let's go.

It didn't bother me. Who's this dude? Exactly. By the way, by the way, by the way, that's the hood, though. Hey, the hood is like that, though. The hood is like, this nigger. Tripping cars, this nigger, man. Come on, bro.

We over this, bro. Shake it off. You just got to shake it off. Is that how you said it too? It didn't bother you? That you sounds so concerned. You don't even know where I was at in my life at that time. No, I was literally, I was in the church.

I was in the mosque. I was trying to get into heaven. You're doing everything you could to get to heaven. And then I realized, man, now I understand this whole repentance and forgiveness thing because boy sinning is fun it's fun it's just too easy not to do it and is it a sin? Is it a sin because you have sex?

Say again? Yes, you have sex? Yes, it's a sin. Who says who? God. Is it a sin if you're cheating? Is it a sin if you were cheating? Yes. I wasn't cheating. It's not a sin to cheat. It's not a sin to cheat. Oh, so then why are you upset? Hold up.

Because I was trying to be the man that I wanted her to, that I know she wanted. You were trying to do some gay shit so I don't practice a bad habit. You're not. You weren't together, but you're trying to be the man that be... Yeah, because in my mind,

Vision Taylor, vision. I knew that we would eventually be together, right? So I wanted to prove to God that I could be the person that is worthy of this woman that I've prayed for my whole life. Y'all told my wife that last night, I told my wife, I said, I told her this morning, matter of fact. I said, I kissed her.

And I said, I love you. I said, I prayed for you. Meaning I prayed for her. About what? What did you pray? I prayed for her. I prayed to have that type of relationship. Oh, I prayed for you.

You would get that. I prayed for you. That was that before, after you destroyed those boxes down there in South Carolina. When were you praying? Did you spray some Holy Ghost? as part of that prayer? Oh, this God, man.

I was just trying to be a good man. Father, son, holy ghosts, give me a woman that would do nothing that these ladies are doing right now. The crazy part is I take those oaths, just like I took an oath with myself in October of 2016. Uh-huh. Completely faithful to my wife. and I am that. So, hold on. That's what I'm talking about.

Light it up. Light it up. Yeah, my. I'm not going to light it up. Hit the weed, bro. Tell me, Taylor, what? I want to hear. I want to hear you.

Taylor, hit it. You got anxiety from that time, but y'all were still together. You were and you cheated and stuff like that. So why didn't you go bad? I was getting the anxiety to into. I was just testing the waters. You know what I'm saying?

I was pushing. I was pushing against what I knew was wrong. Okay. And that's why I wasn't in a good headspace. I knew what I was doing was wrong. You were those girls in a good headspace? I knew cheating on my wife was absolutely positively wrong. I knew that.

I knew that. I know, but how come you didn't have like anxiety? Like, you didn't feel? I did. It was terrible. But then why'd you do it again then? Because that pun of me feels good on me. Look at you.

I would need to confirm or deny. That punanin'an, nani, tsunami, what's that song? Yo, we don't be knowing, yo, men don't be knowing. We don't be knowing. No, I know why. We don't be knowing. Except when he knows. Now he knows, but we don't be knowing.

Tell us why. You know why? You felt type of way. I had a fragile ego. I had a fragile ego. I was. insecure. I had imposter syndrome. I thought I had high self-esteem, but it really, I had low self-esteem. And I was feeding my ego with those other women. That's what that was. Because I always say

men cheat for ego, women cheat for emo, which is emotional reasons. Yeah. It was all ego. Because sometimes as men, we think that's what we're supposed to do. We're supposed to be out here knocking them all damn until you get to that point in your life where you realize like nah wait a minute emo stands for emotional you didn't know that i thought emo was like eat me out shut up oh my god i thought this whole time it was like your boyfriend or husband isn't eating you out so you're cheating on a dude because he'll go down and eat the pus there's a good joke there's a good listen oh show seriously listen there's a good there's a good oral sex joke with ego and emo okay okay because ego could be Eat girls out or eat guys out.

Eat guys out. Yeah. There we go. Eat me out. Like there's something there with the whole ego, emo thing. I was workshopping it. I was workshopping it. Yeah, there's something there.

The moral of the story is, uh... Sometimes you got to try something new before you commit to your old thing. He's never left. Smile, bitch. Oh, my God. The moral of the story is, be faithful to your women. Yes. That's part of, hey, that's part of being mentally healthy.

I don't know. All you young boys, do your thing. But when you get to a certain age and you realize you got a lot to lose and by a lot, I mean your wife and possibly your family, you don't want that. And when Taylor talks about the anxiety, yes, the anxiety of watching my father lose his family because of his infidelity, watching uncles of mine lose their families because of their infidelity. That definitely gave me anxiety. And I was like, I'm not going to be that guy.

That's when I made a conscious decision to really sit down and mind my motherfucking business. and I am going on four years. Let's go. Faithfulness, baby. Let's go. And yes, I want a motherfucking medal for that. Let's go. Why shouldn't I get a medal for that?

That's why you're freezing now. No, you don't get a medal. Anyway, look, guys. Not for four years. Guys. You get medals for four years of sobriety. Yeah, you get medals for weeks of sobriety. You cannot compare it.

And vagina's way worse than drugs. Yeah. Yo, that's true. That's true. You've been sober from girls. You've been hober. Hobber. It's not the same thing.

It's not the same thing. That's Holber Simpson. We're talking about a pussy. Are we just talking about pussy? I get around other pussy and I go, oh. And then I fade away into the bushes. And then I fade away into the bushes and go home to my family, Taylor. You wish you had a Hoba Simpson.

Bro. You know what's crazy, Charlottomeda is you went from fading into the bushes? to fading away from you get it like you put you put your dick into the i'm just fading into a different kind of bush that's all there we go look i fade into a different guys um i got to go let's do it um as always if you listen to this podcast you think we're smart you think we're intelligent you think we're brilliant you absolutely right if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit you're right too it's the brilliant idiot's podcast thank you for listening