The Brilliant Idiots - Let's Not Discuss

Episode Date: May 14, 2020

This week Charlamagne and Andrew discuss Tekashi 6ix9ine going back to trolling, Wax drops in and he tells what he's been up to while quarantined in Florida, Boosie, a RIP to Andre Harrell, and more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's so stupid. It's positively brilliant. Yep, Shalda, guy. Andrew Shultz. We are the brilliant idiots. Another day, man, of quarantined podcast life. Salute to everybody who is braving this element called coronavirus to do their podcast in their studios, face-to-face with people. Good luck. You brave it in me.

Okay. Congratulations. How was your week, Shultz? It was good, my man. It was good, bro. Let's get right into it, dog. People want to know. How do you feel now that the king is back?

The king of New York, the king of rap, the king of charts, the king of YouTube, you know what I mean? I'm not even entertaining it, my brother. What you mean, bro? Not. I'm not entertaining it. Because I'm just not entertaining.

But what does that mean? mean not in are you entertained by it you must be entertained by the king no not at all and i think that you know um i hate watching history repeated stuff especially especially when um you know everybody should learn from their mistakes everybody right so so it's just like you're gonna gas the same thing to happen again you can't clearly you can't clearly like this person of being attained by this person the way that you think you are when you know if you didn't learn the first time. I'll say it like this and it'll be simple. If you bump your head once and don't learn from bumping your head, the next time your head's

going to get decapitated completely. Whoa. So your prediction is the King of New York gets assassinated. My prediction is the same prediction that has always been since two years ago when I was right. You end up in jail a day. and if you already went to jail and you didn't learn from that, then what happens next? You all think that shit is funny.

I'm 41 years old. Like, that shit ain't funny to me. Honestly, I don't like seeing self-destruction. I don't. I really honestly, truly don't. Like, if you don't find it funny, dude. Like, I think it's hilarious. You don't find it funny.

What's funny about a man having to move two times in four days? I mean, if you know how awful moving is, that's hilarious. Like if one of my friends said that they had to move and then move again, I would laugh at the pain that he was about to endure alone. Like that would be so much fun for me. But just the idea, like posting the pictures of like the mouse, putting the mouse in the video, telling everybody they mad. Like you don't find it funny?

You're a person that has a twisted sense of humor. You like watching someone bomb on stage. Why not watch them, you know, get decapitated again? Why is that not fun? Is that your limit? No, it's not funny. I mean, it's not funny because, you know, when I see a brother, when I see a person, you know, online constantly explaining themselves over and over again with tears in their eyes, that lets me know exactly what that person is at. Jay Z had a bar.

I'm going to give you this Jay Z bar, right? Uh-huh. Hold on. I don't want to misquote it because I'm really not talking about this shit ever. I don't think it's something to be entertained. but I'm going to give you all this bar because Jay-Z said it in a rap and it sums up this situation perfectly

but once again, y'all won't realize this until it's too late but the bar is hold on, I'm pulling it up I don't want to misquote it because it's such a phenomenal bar um hold on, hold on, hold on, I'm getting to it, I'm on genius um,

hold on, hold on, yes. He said, the labeling of a snitch is a lifetime scar. You're always being jail, nigger, just minus the bars. And that's the truth to the matter. But would you not have snitched in his situation? I would never be in that situation. But hypothetically speaking, you're in that situation, right,

where you're not part of this gang at all, right? You are, you know, see, you're, you sound like a person who doesn't want to be held accountable for your actions. At the end of the day, this is how I've always been. Right. If I, if I did something, I need to be held accountable for my actions. I got to deal with the consequences of my actions. I can't look around and say, well, you made me do this or you were the cause of that. If I'm with you and I'm doing what he was doing, come on, man. That's a good point. You have to be accountable for the action. You got, you got to be held accountable. All of that, all of that stuff sounds good. All of that, oh, well, they slept with my baby mom.

and, you know, they tried to kidnap me and they did X, Y, and Z, and you know it's no honor among thieves. That's what they do in that world. In that world, wolves cannibalize themselves. Like, it is what it is. Like, you knew that. Like, that's not an out.

It's not an out. So if there's, if there's no honor amongst thieves, then why do we expect honor to this code of not snitching? Like, why does, why is that the rule above all rule? But there are no rules. The question should be, there are no rules, but the question should be, if there's no honor amongst thieves, then nobody in that world deserves to be honored. And you don't get, you don't get honored. You know what I'm saying?

Because you weaseled your way out of a situation. And I honestly, I just don't respect nobody who doesn't learn from their past mistakes. Like, I don't care how smart you come off. Smart people learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others. I see a person that has done neither. I just don't think it's not, I don't think it's He hasn't learned.

That's for sure. And that's not good. He hasn't learned. But I think that it does resonate with me a little bit. Like if somebody fucks my baby mama and then like kidnaps me and like does some shit to my mom, I'm not going to assume that they're loyal to me. So if you break that loyalty, then don't assume that I'm going to be loyal to you. Your king, your king, your king portrayed.

is the image of a gangster, right? Yes. So what should a gangster do if somebody fucks his baby, me, mom? I would call the police if I was having to say. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. No, you're actually making a really good point. That's all I'm saying. If you're a gangster, go bust your gun, gangster. You know what I'm saying? Go bust your gun.

They kidnap you? All right. Go bust your gun. Get back at your people. That's all I'm saying. If you're in that lifestyle, that's what you do. See, I know you were going to give good perspective on this for me. So you were upset that he was portraying himself in one way and using.

No, I don't give a fuck about none of that shit. I'm upset that he just have not learned his lesson. That's it. It's like, yo, you got to have some sense of humility. Because if you believe in God, if you believe in the universe, whatever you think, you know, got you out of this situation, whatever higher power got you out of that situation, for you to come right back doing the same old shit,

that's a slap in the face to the universe. That's a slap in the face to God. So if you're getting a second chance, I think that you should use your second chance for more than just more trolling. I think it's whack. I guess what I'm saying is I never saw him as a gangster and I never bought the idea that he was a gangster.

What I always thought was funny about it was that he was clearly not a gangster, but he was basically checking these other dudes who have claimed to be gangster on their gangster, if you will. That's not checking. That's not checking. Or he was calling him out. I don't know what that. Like in poker, the term is, in poker the term is check, right?

Like, call. I'm from the old school. Calling somebody out is not thumb-thugging. Calling somebody out is being somebody face and having that same energy that we have never seen. Right. You understand from that young man. I just think it's sad.

I know it's going to end badly. Just like I told y'all two years ago. And I really was hoping. I was really rooting for him to come home and, you know, change his ways. Like, I don't know why you would come home and set yourself on fire. You should come home and lay low. Be cool. Be calm.

By the way, if you come home, you be cool. You be calm a year from now. People might forget about this shit. But you come home immediately. You come home immediately. And you taunting motherfuckers? Like right out the gate, right? Who is he taunting?

Was he taunting some of the people that... I'm going to tell you something. Jealousy and envy on top of people not liking you because they think you're an informant is a very, very, very, very, very volatile mix of ingredients that will not lead to anything good happening to said young man. And once again, you know, the fact you had to, you got to move twice in a few days.

That's not what's up, man. Like that's, who wants to live like that? Like, I'm at the point in my life where peace of mind is the ultimate for me. I want to walk down the street and be able to mind my business. I can keep my head on a swivel, you know, but that's just the way I am naturally because I'm a paranoid, anxious person. But I want to live, I want to have peace of mind. I don't want to be in a situation where I'm trapped in my own head all the time.

I'm trapped in my own thoughts. I'm constantly questioning my mind. myself and my decisions. And the decision he made, he's going to be questioning for the rest of his life. And that's why he has to constantly explain. All I've seen in the past few days is him just constantly explaining why he did what he did and trying to make light of the situation. It's like, bro, you're that. You got to wear that. As Hove said, you'll always be in jail minus the fucking bars, bro. Like you trapped. You can't enjoy none of that. You can't enjoy your life. How? How many people do you think rap fans really care about the street code?

None of them. None of his fans. Majority of his fans, none of them. But that's not the point. You're going to have all of those numbers, all of those Instagram views and YouTube views and all that. But you're still going to be miserable on the inside. Well, we don't know that. Bro, did you see him?

Did you watch? I saw the clips on Shade Room. Right. His eyes were watering the whole time. He did look like he was going to. cry and he did his hands were shaking eyes watering the whole time what do you think that was about voice cracking uh just like what i'm telling y'all right now he's in his head mentally he knows he he knows that shit was whacked he knows that shit wasn't honorable he knows that shit wasn't gangster

he knows nobody's going to ever really put their arm around him right like he's actually he's shunned by a lot of people that's not a good feeling of course not but if he was never a gangster to start and never really cared to be a gangster in the first place. Do you think he cares for the validation of gangsters? Well, he's in his song talking about shooting up chicken spots. What? In that new record, he's talking about shooting up chicken spots. So he's still talking about tough guy shit.

Wait, you listen to the words of a Takashi 6-9 song? Well, actually, somebody sent me that. Somebody told me. Somebody told me that. You know what I mean? But the point is, yes, he gives a fuck. What are you talking about? He's a kid that

needs this validation. Yes. Of course, he's a young kid. It's their era. They like likes. They like retweets. They like comments. Why do you think he's under everybody's post?

Why you think he's always on Shairoom? He's right there watching all of this shit just like the rest of us. Yes, he gives a flying fuck. He cares tremendously. Outside of, let's say we're aliens and we're looking at this situation, just as aliens, not people who have...

I can't believe you got me to talk. talk about this bullshit. I have not talked about this shit on Breakfast Club at all. Oh, really? I'm not, I don't, I don't feel, I'm not entertaining it. I'm really not. Like, I'm not, I'm like, I think it's, I think it's sad. I really do. I'm not even lying to you. I think it's sad and you just see what this kid is going to end up and it's, it's just like, God, damn, bro. Like, man. It's almost like, right, being in quarantine. And this is what I mean by that. Like, when you're in quarantine, eventually, we get so mentally exhausted. Yeah. That, that we're willing to say, fuck it. and go back outside, even if it's a threat.

Right. We over it. We're like, man, fuck this shit. I can't sit in this house. I can't. Right. I can't do it. I got to go out.

Even though it's a threat, that's how he's going to be. Can't hide forever. You're not going to want to stay in the house forever. He's a young kid. You're not going to want to stay cooped up for him. He's not. He's absolutely not. And it's going to be one of them times when he decides to pop out.

And it's going to be bad for him. you think people will be waiting for him. Bro, I think that we live in an era of clout, cloutity clout chasing motherfuckers. And I think that somebody would do something just to get a rep. They would do something just to get attention. You know what I'm saying? I saw academics, man, sleut to my guy act. And I rock with act.

But I saw act post something, man. Act posted a video of some rapper. I never heard of the young brother's name, but the young brother said, man, don't go after him. Kill his mama. Kill his child. I'm like, y'all can't see this shit. It went too far a year ago,

two years ago, whenever it was, y'all don't see what the fuck y'all are doing again? Like, how are we making the same fucking mistake again? Right. Like how? How was media making the same mistake? You know what I'm saying? By fueling this shit.

How are the rap is making the same mistake by replying to this kid? Like, why is he making the same mistakes by coming out still on some, like, Ra, raw, shit? Like, why? Like, why? Why? It's sad, man. It really is sad.

I'm not going to lie to you. It's very sad. As far as media goes and as far as, like, us leaning into it, I don't think our behavior is any different than it has been for past rap beefs, right? Some rappers beef. We start. getting in the comments. We go, oh, Drake killed this guy or Meek got bodied or push a T, killed Drake. Like, we go in, we lean in and Drake goes out in interviews and he's like, yo, it's going

to be some violence if anything had, you know, if we see that guy. And probably because we're leaning in and saying what a big deal it is. So I don't know if our energy is really any different. Like, I think we're looking at a lot of times rappers like their wrestlers when in reality, it ain't wrestling a lot of times. It's real. It's never been wrestling. And Pock and Big should have showed you that. When Pock was, you know, telling people like, look, it's the media. Y'all are the ones fueling this shit. Y'all are the ones give us the platform for this shit.

Y'all the ones gas this shit up, you know? Like, he was right, you know? And don't get me wrong. It's not the media's fault because the media is not making any of those brothers do anything. Those brothers are doing what they're doing and the media is reacting to it. But it comes a point in time with somebody has to have some social responsibility and say, you know what, I don't want to be responsible for that shit. You know what I mean?

I don't want to be responsible for that energy. I'm not going to give that energy a platform. I'm not going to put any fuel on that fire. I'm just not doing it. So if I am, if I am having this conversation right now, I would just have this conversation saying that I recognize the role all of us play in this shit. And sometimes you got to save people from themselves.

Because clearly he don't know no better. Yeah. But I do. But I do. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I know what I'm saying.

Yeah. No, it does make sense. Huh. Yeah, I just, I guess I, you make an interesting point about the media that I never really thought about. Like, and the responsibility of the media plays because, and you hear about this all the time in politics, right? You hear about the responsibility of the media and politics and the politics and the media misleading people on both sides of the aisle, right? Yeah. And I mean, he's going to get into, he's going to get the attention.

because he clearly has people. I guess what I'm saying is like, at what point of time do we start putting responsibility on the media for other things for like sports, for entertainment? Like so far it's just politics where the media gets smoke. But maybe we should lean into the media when it comes to politics or when it comes to entertaining

rap beefs and someone ends up getting killed. Like you don't think there are magazines writing articles about pocket big. You don't think there are radio stations talking about pocket big. So they're feeding at fire too. And they know exactly. where it ends up. Of course they did. And that's why when you had people like see Dolores Tucker and whoever

else who was speaking out against gangster rap at the time, they were right. You know what I mean? They were saying that Joe, it's going to lead to a culture of misogynistic behavior. It's going to lead to a culture of violence. You know what I mean? It's a bad influence. Yeah, they were right. But she never been in the club

when that yin-yang twins comes on, bro. And that's a fact. She never been in the club. And that's a fact. And that's a fact. You don't understand. You can't. You Why don't want to hear you? See, Dolores Tucker, you ain't out here in the street. You don't know what goes down when these records drop. You don't know what these records mean to us on a cultural level.

But I get it. But as I'm older, I totally understand where she was coming from. Oh, so you're changing your ways. I'm not changing my ways. Oh, yeah, I have changed my ways. I'm evolved. Of course, we all evolved. All I'm simply saying is when shit gets real, noted has gotten real.

That's it. it's all entertainment until it's not entertainment no more. That's it. It's really just that simple. It's all entertainment until it's not entertainment no more. It has not been entertainment with that young man since he got shot at back in the day. It hasn't been entertainment since he got kidnapped. It hasn't been entertainment since the motherfucking feds came and picked up his whole operation.

It hasn't been entertainment since he sat on that stand and told him on every motherfucking body. To us, that shit is entertainment because we on the outside looking in. That shit really does look like a movie playing out. But not to them motherfuckers that's locked up in jail. Not to him when he didn't know whether he was going to live or die when he got kidnapped. You understand what I'm saying? Yo, I have a question for you. Do you think because reality shows have gotten so dramatic and so real, right?

You're literally seeing abortions happen on a reality show, fights. I don't think death has happened just yet. But, like, it's getting close. It's getting real, if you will. Do you think because we see this in reality shows all the time, we're kind of desensitized to a trial? like this? Like, this becomes just another reality show in our life? Yeah, I think reality show started it and I think social media elevated it to another level just because, you know, we see so,

so much on social media. We're desensitized to so much shit, you know what I mean? And in a situation like that, it really does feel like we watched it play out on social media. Like, that wasn't a TV play. That wasn't a podcast play. That wasn't a YouTube web show. That was some show. That was some shit that we watched that young man, you know, show us the days of his lives every day for like a whole year. We knew the whole crew. We knew what he was doing, what he was about. Everybody was intrigued. The funny part is so many people called it and knew exactly where that behavior was going to lead. It led to what we thought it was going to lead to, which was jail. You know, a lot of people who said deaf as well. But it's not too late for that,

especially when you don't learn your lesson. Especially when you don't learn the error in your ways. And that's the, that's the, that's the part I wish somebody would get across to him. It's like, bro, you, you, you, you're, you're, I don't want to, I don't know if blessed is the right word, but you are. Like you, you, you, you, you skated out of a situation that could have been really, really, really bad for you. You, you took a lot of people down in the process, but you skated out of a situation that's really bad for you. Now you got to talk it on you, you got to talking on your children, you got to talk it on your mom, your whole family. And for what? Like, why come?

You already had a target on them. Why come home and set yourself on fire? Right. That's literally what you did. You shot a flare in the sky, put a goddamn bat signal up. Yeah. And you motherfucking set yourself on fire and say,

hey, hey, look at me. For what? Like, for what? Like, I don't know, bro. I'm just glad I didn't grow up in that era where all that shit means so much to me. The IG viewership and the number of fucking followers you got.

I don't give a fuck about none of that shit. I'm old school. What that bag look like. And all bags ain't good bags. What are you doing to get the bag? It's just not the fact you're making money. What are you doing to make that money? That's the shit that intrigues me at fucking 41 years old.

Like, I want to see some innovative shit. I want to see some shit I ain't seen before. I've seen this before. And guess what? Guess what, my brother, it ain't worth it. It's not. That shit ain't worth it. Do you think that you have more perspective on this because in your younger years, you were a shitter?

Maybe not to the levels of 6-9, but you were not afraid of confrontation and saying things that would, like, get you into potential physical altercations on your platform. I'm still not. And still not, but you probably don't do it as much. You're probably not as antagonistic now. like, I feel like you've kind of evolved in a way that you interview. Yeah, I've never wanted to be antagonistic. That was never my thing. Like, if you even listen to me back in the day,

I would always say that I admire somebody like Angie Martinez because Angie Martinez is able to make people comfortable in interviews. Right. That's a skill that I don't have. And the reason I didn't have that skill is because, you know, early on, if I'm just being me having these conversations and, you know, just as my father always said, the fastest way between two points is a straight line,

just getting right to it. Yeah. People are like, people are like, oh, did you just ask me that? Like they're taking aback by that. Yeah. It's like now people are on guard when they come in. So it's not my fault. You're on guard and you're defensive.

I don't think it's my fault. Maybe it is. I haven't really given it that much thought. But I've never wanted to be antagonistic. So I think over the years, people have just said, honestly, Chalaman just, he's just curious. He just asked what's already out there. It's not like he's,

doing anything new on us. He's just going to ask the shit that people already know. And now I think, and I said this years ago, but it's even more so now the age of transparency that we live in with social media, now artists know I don't even got to go sit down and do an interview. I'll just tell these motherfuckers what's going.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You have your own radio station. You have your own interview platform. Exactly. Like you see what people are saying about you on social media. So now you can get on Instagram live and do your own fucking press conference. You can do your own.

You don't need me to do that anymore. So therefore, the antagonistic label, that shit kind of gone. But I will say this. I think because people have access to express their opinions on their own platforms, the art of interviewing will increase and escalate in importance. There was a time where if you just had a platform, you could just go, so what happened with this drama in the car? And then you could get the answer, people would watch it.

Now, because you can get information whenever you want and access to people whenever you want, I think the people who are actually gifted at interviewing and creating a different experience with the person they're interviewing, I think those interviews will be sought after like crazy and the generic interviews will completely die off. I can see that. I mean, I've always been somebody who wanted to master the audit interviewing.

attracted to interviews. I've always been attracted to Howard Stern, Angie Martinez, Wendy Williams, Diane Sawyer, Barbara Walters, Oprah Winfrey, Larry King, you know what I mean? Like, I'm like, I remember having a whole conversation with Larry King about interviews. And I'm like, man, what's the, I said, Larry, what's the most important question you can ask in the interview? And Larry said, why? I said, well, Larry, I said, I said, Larry, because I want to know. I want to know. What's the most important thing you can ask? He said, no. He's like, why? I answered you. Why? It's like, why is the most important question that you can ask in an interview.

And I truly believe that. Like, what is the why of it all? Like, that's, whenever you see me sitting down having a conversation with somebody, always know that's my mission statement. I want to get to the why of it all. Like, that's it. And by the way, that's therapy, right? Yeah.

When you sit down with your therapist, when you sit down with your therapist, your therapist wants to know the why. Well, she gets you to what's the why of it all. Or he gets you to what's the why of it all. So you explain your shit. You explain your shit. You're getting all of this shit out. You're unpacking.

You're unpacking. And the therapist wants to know what's the why. To go back to the original conversation, that's all on. I'm like, I don't understand the why and none of this shit. And I don't think he understands the why and none of this shit. So being that he don't know no better, as a grown-ass adult, man, I got it to know better. Because that shit over there is sad, bro. I'm not going to lie to you.

I think he's aware of the why. I don't think so. Yeah. And if he is, it's not, the why isn't worth it. If the why is money, that's fair. If the why is attention, if the why is clout, it ain't worth it. I'm telling, it's not worth it. You're not going to sit here and tell me that if that young man had an opportunity to change some things in his life, you wouldn't change something.

Yeah. I think, I think it's really coming down to something like, all right, I'm fucking 20 years old. I got tattoos all over my face and body. unhirable. I have no education, but I'm a smart kid and I could find a lane to success and possibly millions of dollars. I'm going to lean the fuck into this because what else am I going to do? Like literally, what other job could he have? He could be a fucking clown. I mean, he could be a clown. You think that the Universal Soul Circus wouldn't hire him? Come on, bro, a hip-hop clown? Have you seen the hip-hop clowns at the Universal Soul?

circus. Them shit is corny and outdated. Like, he'd be perfect. Right. So he's going to be a clown. He's going to be a clown for a living. It could be perfect. Yo, a reality show.

I'm sure that's coming down. I'm sure that's coming down in the pipeline. You do a reality show. Like, the kid is charismatic. He's funny. There's other shit that he could do. Right. Other than this shit.

Like, right. It's like, bro, why? I got, why? Why? Why are you coming right back fucking with people? Like, it's whack, man. And then I'm telling you, jealousy plus envy on top of people who are not fucking with him because of what he did, you know, and him, they don't think he's honorable. That shit is a bad combination.

Because guess what? When I see him say things like, are you jealous of my numbers? He's right. Yeah. And jealous motherfuckers on top of the fact. they already don't fuck with you because of what you did. Jealousy, envy, and that combination.

Brough. Whoof. Imagine being in prison. Imagine being one of the guys that's in prison because of him. And you see him out here just taunting motherfuckers and, you know,

bragging about this shit. Like, literally bragging about what you did. You're not going to want some revenge? I don't think y'all understand how this shit works. I really don't. I don't think y'all understand how a person in jail's mind state works. I think.

Fuck the rap was on the street. I'm in jail for the next 15, 20 years, 25 years because of you. And you out here just like, bro, you're calling in your favors. Like, man, look, I mean, I can't do anything for you right now. But, bro, if you can, please, please. And by the way, it's people still on the street that love those people that's in jail. There's people on the street that love those guys. that's in prison. You fucked up some of their meal tickets. And now you out here just gloating this shit?

Oh, man. Do you think, do you think that most people, you think most people think they're, that like street justice doesn't happen because you see guys like George Zimmerman walking around unscathed still? So do you think there's this idea amongst the, the regular population that is not involved in, like, the superhood shit that it's like, oh, that's all talk. Nobody really gets got, because if they were going to get got, why wouldn't they go after these like horrible racist and super villains that are just walking the streets today? Why don't they go after some KKK guys? Like, why don't they go after all these people they say they hate? I agree with you.

That's a great point. And I can't wait until they start doing that. But for now, street justice happens in the street every goddamn day. Right. All right. It's gang members popping gang members every goddamn day. You know what I'm saying? It's people popping in formance every goddamn day.

You know what I mean? I just saw a young man get shot in Brooklyn this week. It's shot and killed in Brooklyn. And the headline was like, they're investigating if it was in connection to, you know, rap with pop smoke or some shit like that, you know what I mean? So it's just like, yo, this shit happens all the time and all it takes is opportunity.

That's it. It's simple as that. Like, it's simple as that. Like, it's literally just that simple. And I just don't understand why, bro. Like, that's what I really don't. I don't understand the why of it all because I know that if that was me and I was in that situation and I did something like that

that caused a bunch of people to go to jail and I came home. I don't even think I'd live in America. I really don't. I'd probably go live in London. Straight up all. Like, I don't know. I'd go live somewhere else. I don't think I would live here.

And I damn sure, I damn sure wouldn't be in Long Island in a fucking apartment complex or some shit with a shared goddamn community pool. The fuck. I don't give a fuck about how big your stack of money is

when you share a pool? What fuck is up with you, bro? You share a... And you're not even aware of your surroundings. You're not even paying enough attention to see that. fuck is around you or filming you? Yeah.

Bro. That shit's fucked up, man. Bad look. That shit is sad. Bad look, you think? Very, very sad. A bad look for what? You think it's a bad look to be in that situation?

Yes. You don't think so? Yeah, I think so. I think it's, but I thought he was like put there on purpose. Like, I thought the court shows not him. My assumption is if he's being moved, they have control the destinations where he's being health. Well, he's not even, he's not even in fucking, uh, witness protection. He's not in that kind, he's not in that type of shit. He's not an informant no more. Right. They used him already.

Yeah. He's out here. Yeah. He's on his own. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? So then why do they say they moved him? Who's they? I don't know who they was. Maybe his team. I don't fucking know. He's on house arrest. But that's for his house? That's weird, right? I, I don't know. Maybe it's for P.O., parole officer? I don't fucking know. I don't know. I don't know. If he is still, if the government moved him, then that means he's still enacting for him. Yeah, that's what it seems more like for me.

If the government is still invested in his safety, then he's still probably working with them in some regard. Maybe. Who the fuck knows? All I know is that shit ain't going well. Anyway, I saw an amazing show, man. This is... Oh, hold on. Do you want...

That was a good start. Shit. Andrew made me talk about some shit I don't want to talk about. But listen, you want to do this mid-roll and then come back and do a positively brilliant? What a fucking idiot? Yes. I have a positively brilliant for you. Okay.

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Off a cold idiot. Now, let's get into Positively brilliant or what a fucking idiot. Even though we could have started off the show with what a fucking idiot. By the way, that's what that was. So we're still continuing it.

Done. So now we do positively brilliant. Give me something brilliant show. The show is called 90-day fiancé before they met. Have you heard of this show? It's on TLC, I believe. I've heard of it, yes.

This is the most scintillating reality show I have ever seen in my entire fucking life. Why? So the fiancé shit is basically long-distance relationships. These people have met on websites, on Facebook, or like mail order bride dating apps. So it's like some chicken Russia or the Ukraine or whatever. And then they meet them for the first time,

and they spend two weeks with them, and they're supposed to propose to them at the end of the two weeks. Okay. There's some guy, who, like, he has no neck and he's dating this Asian girl. And, like, the Asian girl, you think she can't really speak English, but she can't. She's in Vietnam. I mean, this shit is just so crazy.

He goes to Vietnam to see her. Another guy, 60 years old, has a girlfriend for seven years in Russia, or no, in Ukraine that he's never met. And he's gone to Russia four times to meet her. And it just keeps on messing up. She just keeps on not being able to see her in the Ukraine. and then miraculously at the end of this episode, they actually kind of link up and then it stops. I mean, there's these lesbians, their story's kind of boring.

But like, the thing is unbelievable. You can't believe the relationships that these people are actually dedicating time in their lives to be a part of. It's catfish, but, like, it actually ends up being someone that they get into a relationship with. Really? Yeah, dude, it is, it's just mind-boggling.

Like, to me, it's like it has to be scrambling. It's that crazy that it has to... Well, most reality shows are scripted, though. Right. I just don't understand how you script the love portion of it before the show starts. In order for them to be on the show, they have to be engaging with each other

for a couple years and consider... Or like a year, at least, and consider themselves boyfriend or girlfriend. They probably do casting calls. They probably say, yo, have you been engaged for a couple years? And you never met your girlfriend or boyfriend. Hold on.

Wait a minute. Maybe I missed that part. They're engaged with people they never met? Oh, this is before they get engaged. There is a show, which is 90-day fiancé, where they get, I guess, engaged. What is it? So there's another show. This is the show that's before the main show.

The main show is you just get engaged and you have 90 days to get married, but you get engaged to the person you haven't even met. You've just been talking on the internet. So this is the show where they go for two weeks to go see the person that they're about to propose to that they never fucking met. I mean, you have the most bona fide psychopaths in the world on this show, falling in love with people they've never fucking met, never met their family. Most of them barely even speak English.

The guy was texting this girl in Russia on a dating app for seven years. What the fuck? Oh no, Ukraine, not Russia. I mean, this, you have to watch it. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I have a feeling your girlfriend made you watch this show. 100%.

100%. 100%. But it's one of the few things that she's made me do that I've enjoyed. Okay? Like, and she didn't make me do it. it, it was on while she was making dinner. And I was like, what is this shit? And I saw this little guy. He's like 4-11. He looks like a thumb. And he has no neck whatsoever, right? It's just shoulders and his head is on top of the neck. And he's dating this Vietnamese or Filipino girl.

And it is so funny their relationship. He makes her shave her legs. She don't shave her legs. He makes her shave him. He like gives her a ray. What? She doesn't shave her legs and he hands her eraser. What's your witnessing right now, ladies and gentlemen, sitting there listening to the brand idiots podcast. You're listening to the after effects of there being no sports and us being quarantined for two months. That's a fact. Andrew's show is watching 90-day fiancé.

And I noticed this show doesn't come on on a Sunday night. Oh, bro, I'm watching them on demand, dog. I went through the whole season. I polished off the whole season last night. You kidding me? You think I'm waiting, bro? I watched six episodes straight last night. Oh my God, NBA come back.

Nah, we need it. Yo, real talk, basketball players don't get paid enough. They don't get paid enough, bro. It's amazing what they do for us. Doug, they don't get paid enough. Yo, I saw somebody today. I think it was Jay Williams. I don't know who it was.

The way they were talking about NBA players was like they were essential workers. Are they not, dog? They was like, oh, it was Duane. What's the fighter name, DC? Oh, USC fighter. Cornier. Daniel Cormier.

Yes, Daniel Cormi. was like, look, man. He said, look, America needs sports. Especially right now. Yes, we do, because Andrews watching 90-day fiancé. I heard it's a good show, though. I heard it's a good show. Bro, it might be better than most sports, Doc.

It really might be better than most sports. I'm not going to lie, dude. It's the passion, the love, you know what I mean, the physicality. I'm telling you, man, they found the craziest people on the planet. They found the craziest people on the planet. This one guy goes all the way to fucking. Russia, I think it's Russia, proposes to this girl,

and she says no, and he's still got to hang out with her for a couple days, and bro, he is so salty about it, talk. Do they show them fucking at least? They, like,

elude to them fucking. Okay, okay. You know, they're like, yeah, I guess we did it or we didn't. I mean, it is so funny, bro.

These two lesbians bickering all the time, like throwing plates and shit. It's just not like loving hip, bro, it is kind of like, it's like white, retard, love, and hip hop. That's what it is. If you could have white, retard love, and hip hop, that's what 90-day fiance is. So you're recommending it clearly.

Oh, my God. If you need something to watch, because we've watched everything. Everybody's watched everything. Let's be honest. I mean, yeah, that's why you got motherfuckers like Disney Plus. Drop in the Mando. What's the Mando? The Mandalorian, aren't they coming out

with the new season soon or some shit? Oh, no, they got, they putting Hamilton out. Hamilton was supposed to come out in movie theaters next year. They moved that shit up to July this year. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Let me throw something at you.

Now that so many people are doing work from home, right? I'm talking about people with regular jobs. My girl has a work from home situation. And she can do everything that she does from home, right? Do you think, let's say, let's say, let's assume that businesses go, you know what, let's just continue this work from home thing. The output has been great. You guys have to come in the office if you don't want to. Do you think you see groups of friends start going, yo, if we got to work from home, y'all want to just spend the winter in Jackson Hole or you want to go to Tahiti for the winter as long as we have the Wi-Fi?

Do you think you see groups of people start to go to like, I don't know, like, do like work travel where they just- Absolutely. That's a possibility, right? I absolutely. I saw Twitter. I saw Jack Dorsey, which I thought was brilliant. I saw Jack Dorsey say,

all my employees can work from home if they want to. You know why? Because they've had too much and realized, shit, we don't need this fucking building, bro. We spend all this money on renting shit for what? All we need is probably a little small office just for us to the CEOs

and we can get rid of all this shit. That's going to be the thing. I can see all of these companies getting rid of all their brick and mortar shit. This whole quarantine has taught us it's all about trimming the fact. Essential is the key word. Essential is the word of this quarantine. What is essential?

What do you absolutely fucking need to do what it is you do, Andrew? What is it? Tell me. I need the studio. Do you need the studio? How do you enjoy having the studio? I think it's a need. And I think that, like, I think that, like, I think that,

the content is better. I think that you and I have been doing this for five years, so we have a chemistry that we can like do things over the phone or over Skype or Zoom or whatever we're using right now. That being said, it's more fun when we do it in person because you play off someone's emotions. And I think it's better. I think we're rare and we've been doing it so long where we can keep it close to the level where it is, but I don't think it's as good. So I think for our business, in order to have that competitive advantage where we're 10% better than the the opposition or competition or 20% better, I think having that in-person thing is valuable.

But if we're doing office jobs, yo, like, or if we're doing work that has to do around the show, work from home, bro. No, I agree with you. I love being in Breakfast Club studio. I love being in the studio with you. It's a different type of energy. Because it's the nature of what we do.

It's connecting. It's communicating. Yes. But go. All we need is this goddamn microphone in the zoom, zoom, zoom, or a mixer. You know what I'm saying? These are really the essentials.

I get what you're saying. I totally, and I totally agree with you. But essentials, man, I'm telling you, when this shit is over, it's going to be hard for you to go back to all the extra shit. It's going to be hard. It's just certain things that we've done without for the past couple of months. Go on that. What do you mean?

What do you mean? What do you mean? It's going to be hard to go back to the extra. It's going to be hard to, like, I don't fucking know. say you need all of these clothes, these sneakers, or you have to attend this event, or you have to get on a plane to go to L.A. for this meeting,

or you have to fucking eat at this restaurant. Like, it's just going to be a lot of things that I think we will be accustomed to that change everything. Like, yo, if they started putting, if Black Widow and all of that shit, I wanted to see this spring had came on fucking Disney Plus,

I don't see a reason to lead a house. I really don't. Like my next crib that I move into is probably going to be like I'm going to make that crib. I mean, I try to do that here now, but I'm going to make that crib so comfortable. This too much has shown me everything I need, especially when you get older, has to be right there in that fucking house. It has to be right there in that fucking house. You know what?

That's really interesting. This is a cool trial run. for the rest of your life. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Early retirement. Who's that? Where the fuck?

Yo. Yeah. I don't even know where I came from. Oh shit. Whack's on? Yo, Taylor, you got to tell us when you're doing this shit because we got to be able to get them on.

Okay. That's fair. I don't know nothing. I don't even know what's going on. I just hear y'all talking. What up, bro? What's the word, my brother? Man, blessings, man.

Now, Wax, I've seen you. You were on a boat. You were fishing. Yes. Yeah, man, chilling, enjoying life out here. That's why when you're talking about it's going to be hard to go back to the norm. I'm like, what the hell?

I do this just for breakfast. I eat breakfast on a boat. I eat dinner on the boat. I'm getting off the boat to two in the morning. When you just dipped your head into the water and came out with a fish, bro. Did you see that? That was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen, bro.

Listen, you got to put peanut butter in your mouth. You put your head in the water. You spit it out with a fish coming. You grabbed them shit. What? Listen, by the way, Wax is the only person in the world who would go quarantine in fucking Florida.

If you're not from Florida, there's no reason to be in Florida right now. No, listen. Listen, go to Sky Blue Reynolds. I got a boat company out here, man. I'm actually joining and actually making money at the same time. That's one of the good reasons why I'm out here. Is that why your headphones are blue?

Yes. This is my Shorty studio. You went to Florida and turned Crip? I ain't turned Crip. I ain't turned nothing but a boat guy. I love it, man. It's amazing. I can't even believe it.

And I built it with my hands. It's crazy. That's crazy. Somebody sent me a video this morning. And they said, oh, my God, waxes in love. He's on TikTok. And I said,

you're a fucking liar. I got the video. And I said, and I said, oh, I've seen this video already. And they just put a bunch of laughing emojis. And they was like, I can't believe he's really in love.

Yeah, you know, it's a great thing. man, I can't believe it, man. You've been with me for how long. You know what time. You see the life that I used to live. And I say that how many stories that we had on brilliant idiots already, it's like it's crazy. I can't believe it.

Really in love. Bro, it's one day at a time. This thing actually really works. You know, people be 20 too much to it. I'm so happy. And you sound great. What do the women that you used to smash say to you? Like all the women that tried to lock you down.

I know you're getting some crazy messages. Oh, man, you know, man, just pray for me. You know what I'm saying? Just pray for me. But some of them be surprisingly, the ones that I, that really I thought, like, you guys love me, they give him blessings. They was like, I know this is the man that you was. And if you could make this happy, I like to see you happy.

Like people who genuinely love you, they'd be like, you know what? They probably be hurting inside. You believe that? Of course I don't. Who believes winning? They all full of shit. Wow. Most of them.

Wow. Most of women are full of shit, y'all. I don't agree with that. Oh, hold on. Are men holes? Say again? No. Are men holes?

No. I don't know what you're talking. Okay. Why are you doing all this generalizing? Yes. I know because, see, there you go. And a lot of other woman is say, listen, she has to say, take that, take that. Stop that.

And, uh. Taylor. Taylor. Taylor, you sound chubby, yo, chou. Oh, stop. That's true. For real. Taylor.

Taylor. The way that we're recording this, whenever you talk, it goes to your screen, but nothing's on your screen. So it's just a blank thing. So unless you're going to show them edges. All right. Maybe that's why she won't show them edges. Maybe it's them edges taking up the entire camera. That's why she don't want, she don't want people to see her.

Is that what's going on? I'm doing my hair right now. Oh, no, she's about to put up. Oh, hold on her. She said she's doing her hair right now. Let me see. Nope. Let me see.

Taylor is blank. It's not showing. Taylor, you are fucking up this podcast in a way. Yeah, and I don't even know what I would say. What was I saying? I was saying if girls could call us holes, only way a guy could be a hole if a lot of girls try to holl at them.

Right. And these girls got boyfriend, so come on. That's what I call them and said they all are. Yo, have you smoked less weed, bro? I'm out here blowing down, man. Because you seem way more, like, way more sharp. I mean, you seem on a boat. Listen, I'm on the boat.

Right now, right now I'm actually on the boat still. No, but you're like, Quinn is on the boat. Your brain is firing like everything. Usually you're in like a haze, right? And now you look like a, like a, it's like a sunny day, man. What's going on? Something's different, bro. God bless me, man.

Something's different. Are you saying, are you saying Caesar has evolved? Say what? Is this, Caesar has evolved? Caesar. I don't know what that is. Who's that? This is the third movie, baby.

Caesar ready to take over. I don't know what that is. Watch it tonight. I'm going to text it to you. I'm going to text you the movie to watch the night. You'll get it. So when you're proposing, when you're going to propose? I ain't going to lie to you.

I mean, I don't know, again, I'm taking one day at a time. You know what I'm saying? We're trying certain things out. Like what? Like, you know, getting a boat company together. You're getting certain things together to try to see if those things can work out. If I have a good partner first and then the relationship stuff comes with it. I don't try to work on a relationship.

I try to work on other things and relationships, things come with it. What makes you so happy about her? Like, I mean, why does she make you so happy? We're on the same page. You know, a lot of times it's like I stop dealing with other girls because they start liking me more than they like their company and their vision and the things that they're going after. she go hard for hers. You know what I'm saying? I respect that.

I fell in love with her the way she is, not a girl. You know what I'm saying? I feel love like how she moved and how she handled her business and stuff. Basically, you're saying this is the first woman you ever dated who had a job? No, not at all. Not at all.

And the thing is, everybody else had jobs. She don't want who don't got a job. So then how is she going hard on hers if she don't got a job? It's her hustle. It's her hustle. She knows how to make things happen. You know what I'm saying? You've dated some hustlers before.

Oh, plenty of hustling. Listen, I know some. I know a few of them. Me too. We got to go back. We got to go back. Go ahead. You said you fell in love with her and her hustle.

Yes. And other things, too. Other things, too, how she takes care of me. She holds me down. Of course, of course. And I'm not going to say that other girls have him hold me down. I'm not going to say I had other hustlers. It's okay.

But I had so many other girls because one was a hustler. One wash clothes better. One fed me better. One, I could talk to go to the hood. Other when I go to church and go see my mama, I had like, 20 different girls that make equal to this one. Right. You're making excuses.

You love her. We said that already. What are you trying to say to do here? He lining me up. He lining me up. What you got? What you got? You said TikTok first.

You lining me up. Andrew, what's going on? Nothing. You love her. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm happy that you're in love. It don't have nothing to do. It's none of that shit.

When you got the one, you just know she the one. It just is what it is. Andrew, you love your girl, right? I love my girl. but I've never experienced such a transition as we're experiencing right now. Wax is speaking in complete sentences for the first time in relationship with him as a friend. Caesar, baby.

Dude, I'm, chilling. Something is going on right now. I need to know what it is. I need to know what this girl is doing to truly make you the man you could have always been. Bro. I was always the guy.

I always, you know, did certain things, but I always been behind the scenes and out of the I've been had a lot of things going on always. I just stayed out the way. I never try to, like, exploit myself or anything like that. By the fall, he'll be speaking Spanish. English now. I do know Spanish right now. I know some Spanish.

Give us some Spanish. Dominican speaks Spanish, right? Como Estas? Oh, okay. I even got a Spanish song. Okay, go. I made up. Go.

What is it damn that nigga dick big as hell? But Spanish? No, man. What's the hell wrong with you? Hey, Alex, how you say damn that nigga dick big as hell is Spanish? Don't even play around with this thing. Who's on drugs? Who's on drugs?

What's the Spanish song you got? Let me hear it. Much de amo, de amo much. So when you say mucho diamo, that's, listen, listen. When you say much de Amo, that really means much love. Stop. But it's like love much. So when I say it

When I say Buccio de Amo Somebody in Spanish automatically going to say De Amo Mucho You know what I'm saying? Oh my God. You know what I'm saying? All right is going to say it.

Black women. Black women. I know why y'all hate us, niggins, sometimes. This guy has been with so many black women in his whole life and was acting like he didn't even understand y'all. Look at y'all looking at the eye and saying, I don't know nothing. Now my Dominican sister got him singing,

singing about being in love. Mucho de Niro. Mucho da yamo. Mucho dao. Much love. Love me much. What the fuck, yo. It's so crazy.

Dea me much. I've never seen it. Charlaman, is this new to you? I haven't seen it either. Brand. So your entire relationship with, your entire friendship with Wax. you've never seen him be this hyper, be this, like, present. Only two other girls.

Come on, but, but, but he never would commit to either one. He would never be like, he would never be like, I want to be with her. He would be like, nah, I can't be with her because of this reason. And the other one, the other one, the other one, he just shitting on because she was white and he just didn't. Stop, man, why you doing this, man? I guess, because I guess, like, the first girl I knew he loved was black. The second one was white.

So I guess he found him a nice, contrast in the middle. He got that middle ground, bro. Nice little brown, you know what I'm saying? I ain't think of that. That's kind of smart. Nice Puerto Rican. You know what I'm saying?

Nice. Nice. Nice afro Latino. Nice and beans all the time. Tostonas. I'm not to say tostornis. What the fuck is that? You just said it.

We know you know. You just said. You know, say it. Say to Tostanus. What is that? What's that mean? It's like a big ass fucking banana that you, like, like cut in half and then you like put like, it's like bread.

Plant teens. Like plantain. Damn. So you'd be like, damn, that nigga's the tonus big as hell. Yeah. Damn, the tauton as big as hell. That's what you say? I ain't got nothing to do with this song.

He's up this. I'm telling you. He's boiling. No, no. No, I'm happy. I'm happy. I knew shit had changed when we double dated. When we double dated, I was like, wow.

Wow. I've never seen that before. Where'd you guys go? We went to horrible decisions live podcast. Okay. That was months ago, before Corona, of course. It was cool, man. I mean, I think I liked her because we were friends first. It was more of not even trying to do this.

Like, we still not trying to, like, she's cool. I want to see her. I like the way she do business. I can sit down and talk to her about a business and how to make it grow. And we like, all things how we think it would be like, that's going to work. And things is working. Can you know why?

Can you introduce her to us? Can we see? We just did a podcast together. I was on our podcast this week. Hey, baby. I mean to the brilliant idiots listeners, not me personally. Can we...

Come here, baby. Yeah, she's cool. You know what I'm saying? She knows she's going to be on camera? She probably don't know you want to be on camera. Baby, you want to be on camera real quick. You want to be... Say hello to the people.

Quarantine life. Say hi real quick. Yeah, she's at quarantine life. Just say hi, baby. Hey. Hey, Carla. Can you hear us or not? Carla, he refers to.

Hold on. Hold on. She got you. Oh. Carla got a whole studio. Yo, Carla. Why is? That's what I'm saying.

She thinks different, man. Call her. Can you hear us, Carla? Yeah, I can hear you now. Okay. You referred to you as Dominican and we had to correct them. No. She heard me.

I can hear him. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. All right. I've never seen Wax so present, so on point, so articulate, so quick in my entire friendship with Wax. Is this a result of your guy's relationship? Have you unearthed a different part of Wax? Absolutely.

Give me all the credit. I do. I do. I'm not giving nobody else the credit. I've seen it. I know the difference. I mean, it's been there all along. I could see it in the friendship.

It's just now and kind of just let it out for whatever reason. Is he drinking tea? Hmm? Is he drinking tea? He's drinking tea, bro? He's drinking tea.

Yes, he's. Yeah, drink tea. Wow. Come on. What's going on? Wow. Waxed in the sunken place. Wow.

That's what it is. Bro, listen. If I am, if y'all see me about the harm myself do some dumb shit, y'all got to come get me, yeah? I'm gonna tell you something. I think, listen, I hope you didn't call the workout,

but it's a part of me, just a small part. I won't call it to break your heart, just because of all the hearts you broke. Just because of all the heart you broke. But you know what? I'm going to see this right now. Have you prayed for repentance? Have you prayed for repentance for all the hearts you broke?

All every day, every time. Literally. I apologize. Listen, I apologize so much she told me to stop, apologize to these holes. Have you, have you prayed? Did you pray? Did you pray? Did you pray for a Carla?

Did you pray for a good woman? Yes. I told God that I am ready. And I told him this way before, though. I just didn't know when it's going to come. This is, again, we sometimes, like, she pour her pants down. And I'd be like, what the hell are you doing? Like, we cool.

Like, what the fuck are we doing? What? I don't know what's going on? What are going on? I still look at her like, we cool. I don't even, like, look at her like. Wax. Wax.

Sometimes, like, go, this is probably. No, no, no, no, no, no. Back up. You need to explain what happens when she pulls her pants down. What is happening? I laugh. I was like, what are you doing?

Why'd you laugh? You're not supposed to be doing this. Carla, hold on. Carla, you gained that much way to her quarantine? Yeah. No.

What is happening when that pants come down? What the fuck? Carla. Yeah. Carla, what's happening when the pants come down that wax just starts giggling? We pray. We pray. And are you laughing?

Why your pants got to be down to pray? There's just certain tactics, man. Sometimes you got to put your feet in the water and pray, pull your pants down and pray. Have you prayed in every style? I don't think you pray in every style. I haven't prayed in talking about you. I thought that was the only style. I didn't know.

I didn't know there were various positions, the prayer. No, I'm just saying. You just do it. Like put garlic in your socks and pray. Put your feet in water and pray. Like, have water hit in your face when you pray. Go to a star at night and pray. All the shit.

Which one's going to work? The old wax is coming back. This is refreshing. Okay, good. Hey, those first two sound like, those first two sound like Dominican recipes, bro. Put garlic in the fucking fuse and water. This is how you keep away vampire.

I'm getting rid of all the garlic in this fucking house. Good, good. I'm happy for y'all, though. I really am. This is amazing. I've never seen wife like this ever in my fucking, I mean, it's impressive. I'm truly impressed.

He sleeps like all the time now, like all night. You sleep through the night, Wax? Hey, has he been able to orgasm because he used to say that he couldn't come? Very good question, Andrew. So has he been in? Were you the one to get the come out of his balls? He doesn't have blue balls anymore. Man, Wax, you've been nutting?

You've been nutting, Wax? Wax, you out here, nothing, bro? I gave it to her, man. I gave it to her, man. You know, I never, like, give it to nobody. I feel like the fuck I'm giving it to you for. Yeah. That's why he'll love. Now, that, yeah.

Carla, that first one that he let go, was it like power washing? Like, what? Is that how you clean the boat? That got a volcano eruption just... That shit probably took some fuck of him off. Now, Carla, do you go through his phone? I don't know. Really?

You know, when a woman goes to a man's phone, there's something telling you to go through that phone. Yeah, he's wax. Huh? He's wax. Yeah. Yeah, but I've seen his phone before. So it's not like he was,

I knew what was in his phone before, and it was just like, I never felt that I couldn't trust him when we decided to do that. Never. Like, he never gave me. The phone sits there. He doesn't turn the phone around.

If he's on it, he doesn't. and, like, close it. I can see whatever's going on. And if a girl hits him up, he lets me know. Like, this girl hit me up. She sent pussy pics. I saw your pussy, girl. She's going to see all your pussies and your titty.

So what happens when they send the pics? Do you get upset? Do you get jealous? You know, girls trying to give me some pussy. Why not? The fuck? Wait, what? No.

No. Niggas trying to try to fuck her. She'd be able to try to do sexy pictures and shit. I'm like, I do not do sexy pictures. And then the motherfucker you tell him, I'm doing this. Like, people don't see that you a bum bitch. They're going to be like, you know what I'm saying? want to do that. So

everybody always going to try to somebody going to try. And no you'll be wrong. I was the psycho bitch. I'm the one that like fought niggas and I was going through the phone and I was going through the emails and hacking it all. I don't feel the need to. Really? I'm chilling though. Not at all. I didn't think this was possible though.

Me neither. You didn't think what was possible? Being in love? Being in love to the point where you trust them where you don't want to go through their phone. I thought it was normal and I feel like we were raised thinking that it was normal to go to somebody's phone, that it was normal to fight them, that it was normal to hack into their emails. And it's not. It's, you're able to do it if you really trust and love that person, but they have to do that for you. You were raised that way, like, in, in a Puerto Rican household? I was raised by-girls is ready to go get it. But, like, what happens? Does your mom, like, teach you how to make, like, you know, rice and beans and then, like, teach you how to get an

email password? Like, how does it, how does it, how does it? Basically, for me, it was very much so, like that. It was like, my dad taught me how to fight and my mom showed me how to fight and my mom showed me how to stalk my dad's bitches. I started at 12, right? Like, young. I know how to do it. I was fucked up. This is how you hack a Facebook.

No, it's Fibu. Okay? Yeah, right. Hey, Facebook. Hey, boo. No, I mean, that's, that's admirable that y'all both, uh, trust each other. Yeah. Especially being that you was waxed's friend before this.

So you know how to us. Yeah. You knew. He lied to me then. So he didn't come to me in a relationship. Like, you know how you always show your best foot forward those first six months or whatever? I gave my worst foot forward. I already knew what he was about.

Yeah. I already knew who he was. So you can't be lied to me down. How did he charm you? How did he get you? How did he get you to remove him from the friend zone? When did you first go, oh, I want to see that guy's penis. You shut the fuck up.

That's the assy-assed girl. He got me one night, bro. What happened? He wanted it. I didn't want it. Wow. I thought we was cool. Wow.

Me too. Me too. Tell me your experience, wax. Tell me your story. Share your story. It's not a me too story. It's kind of like, listen. We went to, I was golfing.

Remember I was golfing a lot? I was going to the pier and I was golfing. And I told her I was golfing. So she come and keep on trying to give me the drinking. I'm like, nah, nah, she's shoving a straw in my mouth. Bullshit. Then we go bowling. She's going between my legs inside the bowl.

And I'm like, it was no room. Wow. What you mean going between your legs? Yes. And next you know, she's putting a liquor in my mouth again. Boom. Knowing I got to drive, I'm like, I don't drink. So it's going to fuck me up.

She got to a club. She got us into a club. She'd given me drinks all night. Everybody in that club knew we was fucking but me. I didn't know me. Wow. I was the only person who you know I was fucking that night. No, it's true.

The manager was like the next day. Oh, I thought you guys were dating already. I'm like, hell no. Yeah, she's all over me. Carla, Carla, where did you take your victim after the club? Come on. Oh, watch this story. Okay, what happened was, so he was taking me back to the Bronx,

which does he even know still that? Yes. That you dropped him off to the Bronx once in. Do you remember that? That's what we were still hiding. That's what you used to be at? Remember you dropped me off at the Bronx? Yeah.

And I think what the fuck are you doing all the way? I'm like, why the fuck are you in the Bronx? I'm like, why? This motherfucker. Yo, I'd be paranoid as fucking. We saw a truck. like yours and be like, oh, fuck, walk the other way, walk the other way. He's waiting to see what he's going to come out from.

And you know, it used to be so funny. I used to be saying, whoever this is is Puerto Rican. That's always saying that. I'm like, I don't know who the fuck you in that way, but I guarantee you that's a Latino of some sort. I mean, the odds are on your side of that one. Yeah, it's so unbelievable. I tell the story.

So she brought me upstairs, right? So she was like, come upstairs. I know you hungry. Three o'clock in the morning. Come upstairs. I know you hungry, right? And bananas everywhere. I was like, fucking, I'm going upstairs and eat.

I went upstairs, she made me some, what is it? Alfredo. I didn't make you anything. I had cooked earlier in that day. And we were looking for food. The pizza spot was, like, packed. So I was like, I got food at home. You got to drop us off at home anyway.

Wow. So come upstairs and eat. I had cooked earlier. 3 o'clock in the morning. Come upstairs to eat. Alfredo. It was rice and beans, actually. Rice and beans.

And you gave me a garlic bread. One piece of good. All right. All right. So she was like, don't go home. Just stay a night. So. He was going to go back to Jersey after drinking.

Bronx from Jersey, Charlotte. Come on, man. You shouldn't have been drinking and driving, though. You're right. Okay. I don't drink and drive, so no drinking, drive. All right. But if you're in the car, it doesn't matter.

You shut up. It didn't matter. Oh, we upstairs now. We upstairs now. I'm saying, she's like, I don't drink a drive. So you're drunk. I want driving. We're not different.

But we were there to be second eyes. Yeah. So we upstairs. She got us. lost like three times in the way, but we went upstairs. So she's like, I just stay at night. And I'm like, she's like, it's the famous words. Now, if I lay here, you're not going to try to touch me, right?

And I'm like, nah, should I put pillows here for a barrier? And I was like, nah, you're good. It's 3 o'clock in the morning. Now she got her fucking one, a spaghetti string thing that you just see the side nipple coming out. Wow. Booty shorts. And she was like this.

And she would like this. Listen, she would like this. She would like this in a bed. She said, this is our barrier. Just went like this three times. You don't cross this line right here. My friend's in the other room, and I was like, I can't do this. I'm going to fuck up our friendship.

I'm getting out. So I got up, and I went to my friend's room, and I lay down in her bed. I was like, I got to come in this room. And she looked at me and she's like, bitch, if you don't get the fuck out of here and grab a condom out of my thing. And I was like, no.

So she literally kicked me out of her bed. It was like, we can't be in here. I'm like, I can't go back. No, I did not come back. with a condom. I went back to the bed and then I went back and got the condom. Did you already touch Wax's penis to know what size condom he needed when you went back to your girl's room? No, I just brought back whatever condoms she had. You didn't have like a grocery bag, Rustidis or something like that?

Oh, I didn't have one at night. He didn't have a condom. Of course Wax didn't have no condom. Shut up, man. All right, next, man. Maybe you can be good. Yeah, I'm good. So you all have sex. All right. And he came on the first time. Oh, yeah? In the condom?

Did he come in the condom? Oh, yeah. Now, did the top of it kind of blow up? She definitely felt the force. She definitely felt the force. Okay, good. Okay, bye. We don't.

That was a lot of movies. I know one thing. Food at y'all wedding going to be fire. Oh, yeah. Oh, my family cooked. She got all, every Spanish. Hell yeah. Toast donuts.

You got to stop doing that. Tostornis. Did you just yell Corona and start coughing? Yeah, okay. Toestowness. What else I know? You know. Mubian.

How's this? Nubian. Started to throw out the garbage. How is garbage? Lo la la blesset. Saka la lasuda. Ba lasuda. Baja.

Baraara. You're right. This is absolutely. positively, God damn, incredible. Yo, Wax, you got to learn this one. You got to learn Chupamelow. You know that one.

I know what the hell out of it. Chupami pinga. Yeah. I know the bullshit. I know all the bullshit. I know Buta, Marigolda, oh, who's that close that goes. What?

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What happened? Spanish mama there, man. Come on. Your mama, the mama's there? No, I'm not going back outside. Come on, babe.

That's so embarrassing. Come on, you started that. What's happening? What's happening? Explains us what's happening. It's like Mama Nina hearing me right now, bro. Explain to us what's happening? The cleaning lady here, and she's older Spanish.

It's like Mama Anita, bro. And she hearing me say that, You know what that stuff means, Charlotte? Bro. No. Hey, Carla, can you please explain to wax that in Spanish culture you can make these jokes as okay? There's nothing that she never heard before? I'm not Spanish.

I mean, I told him a- Oh, he said, Carla. Yeah. What? Huh? No, I thought he said, Charlotte. I'm not Spanish? Why are you asking me?

No. That old woman heard all these jokes before. Come on. I'm sure she sucked plenty of dicks in her lifetime. She's like 70-something. Yo, come on now. She got kids. Oh, yeah.

But that's not fair. She's glad. She don't want to hear that for me, though. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to hear her. She knows we fucking. She cleans up after us. All right.

I get it. But you don't want her to do that. What the fuck? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. She cleans up what after y'all fuck? What does she say? Bye.

God, damn. Yeah. Because I'm sitting there thinking about young thug this week and how young thugs says, no matter how much he washes, his dick is still dirty. So I'm like, well, what the fuck? What are y'all doing? She got me, man. She got me.

I'm having fun on the boat. Yo, bro, it's so crazy because the water's so close. It's like I go out in the backyard and like we don't get home to two, three o'clock at the morning sometimes just in the middle. I'm out there fishing two o'clock in the morning. It's really crazy. You be catching shit that late? Hell yeah.

Like big ass fish, yeah. It's unbelievable. It's too late to be underwater. Listen, show, just pay some bills. And then I want to come back. And I want to do a deep dive on Little Boosy's comments about getting his 12 and 13-year-old son and nephew some head. All right, let's do it. Hey, pay the bills.

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Do your thing, bro. I appreciate that. Yeah, I got going to Bullion the Beast, some more wax stories and Sky Blue Reynolds, you know, come out here. I would love for you all to get up on a boat and do something. Ain't anybody coming to Florida at a time like this?

Ain't any time like this. The boat ain't going nowhere. It's right in the backyard. That's right. What I'm saying? When the quarantine? over absolutely. Yeah, let's come out here. I'm going to keep fixing up. By the time y'all get there, it's going to probably be a totally different board. I'm just keeping on renovating to make it better.

So, yeah. Now, are you going to move back here? Yeah, be safe, huh? Are you going to move back here eventually? Are you staying down there forever? Yeah, man, the wife's got a couple of spots. You'm saying? I'm still me. Just upgrade it. Love it. Andrew, you know good and well, you can't keep a Puerto Rican from the Bronx. She ain't from the Bronx, man. She ain't from the Bronx, man. You don't have to You don't have to be from there. You just can't keep Puerto Ricans from there. Nah, she's good out here in Florida. That's what she's from.

So she's good. Right. And I'm going to do some push-ups on the boat. I'll be safe. My brother. Love. Blessings, man. Blessings, man.

Blessings, man. Elon Musk is the man, bro. Talk to me. Bro, Elon Musk, you know, he opened up his plant this week. Yeah. Right? And he wasn't supposed to. Yeah.

I didn't even notice. They said he sued California and threatened to go to Texas. Tesla won and now they'll reopen the whole county folded. The headline says California officials capitulate to Elon Musk allow Tesla plant to reopen. 100%. I mean, it is illegal what they're doing. They can't really make you stay home.

You have the right to a public assembly. It's part of the Constitution. If we all want to just go outside, we could. It is 100% illegal what they're doing. But we're all on board. with it because we think it's going to make a difference. That being said, we have to decide how long we need to do this for. The statistics that are coming back in right now about corona are very shifty.

And we need to figure out what is right, what's wrong, man. There shit changes every fucking day. I saw Dr. Fauci on TV two days ago saying, don't wear a mask. I'm like, what? I'm like, huh? It's don't wear a mask, it's, there's only one mask that works. There's so many different things going on. Even the death statistics, have you seen this shit?

This is where shit gets crazy. Well, Dr. Fauci said that it's been 80-something thousand. He said he thinks it's more. Yo, but check it. Anybody with corona symptoms is considered a corona death. Okay? So that means you get hit by a bus. They bring you in and they see that you are wheezing a little bit.

They're like, oh, is he coughing? Probably corona. They don't even got to test you if you have corona symptoms. There's a million symptoms of corona. And the reason why they're doing it is because the hospitals are fucking empty. they're furlowing doctors, right? They're going out of business. And in the stimulus bill,

they said that they will give stimulus money to hospitals. The people with corona. Yeah. With symptoms who die from corona. So the hospital- It means like 13 grand or some shit like that. It's like if you use a ventilator, it's 39,000 or some shit like that. So basically they're like, fuck it, put that motherfucker on a ventilator for a little bit.

Oh, that person died? Oh, yeah. Was he coughing a little bit before? Well, shit. Say he had corona because then we get 13 grand when he dies. we don't get 13 grand if he dies from, you know, a heart attack. I'm going to tell you something, man. This is why, and I truly believe this,

and I just, capitalism shouldn't be in the health care system. Like, just make health care free and figure out a way to pay these doctors and surgeons and everybody top dollar. And by the way, if you can fucking dump, you know, $1.8 trillion into the economy, the Democrats ask for $3 trillion this week. If y'all got that kind of money, just to dump, you know what I mean?

For shit like this, you all got the money for free health care, bro. But that's the thing. You absolutely do. This is not capitalism. Capitalism would actually help this. This is the opposite. It is capitalism because if you, it's capitalism because if they're telling you, look, we're going to pay you this amount of money if you have coronavirus patients. So it makes you lie about, you know, the coronavirus patients.

But that money is- That's capitalism. No, capitalism would be the opposite. Capitalism would be free market. So the market would decide who got helped, right? And the market would go, oh, actually, we, these hospitals aren't functioning. Right. right now, we're actually going out of business when we're only helping corona patients.

What they would probably do is stop labeling people as corona because that scares people from going into hospitals for their elective procedures. And they'd go, actually, we have way less corona deaths. It's okay. Hospitals are good. Come on in. We're going to go out of business unless we have other people come in. Well, nobody knew that, though.

Like, that was a conspiracy theory for a while, right? The fact that they were labeling people, when people would die, they would label you with Corona when you didn't have Corona. I don't even know if that's actually still. has been confirmed. I just know that's something that people, that's been a conspiracy theory that people have been talking about.

It is, I do know that, I do know you get paid. That's not conspiracy. It is confirmed that you are labeled a corona death if you have corona symptoms. And they are not. Cites your sources. I'll look it up right now.

But from everything I've read, what can, I do know you get paid though. Hospitals get paid a certain amount of money. That's part of the stimulus. Yes. So to me, that's the ultimate version. of capitalism?

It would, but getting paid by the government isn't a free market system. A free market would let the actual market decide what is the most valuable surgery to get or what is the most valuable use of the hospital. Okay, well, maybe the world ain't capitalism, but when you have a money-hungry, goddamn health care system. Right. Agreed. Dude, I agree with you.

When you have a money-hungry health care system, this is why health care should be affordable to fucking everybody. That shouldn't even be affordable. It should be fucking be free. I agree. This is a perfect example. It's like how corrupt shit gets when money is involved, 100%. Whether it's money from the government or money from the people.

But if you make it for profit, people are going to gravitate towards that full-profit situation. Absolutely. And they're doing it probably for good reason. Like they're furlowing doctors. They're laying off doctors. So they're like, well, shit, we don't want to fire doctors. We got to make sure our nurses are paid. We got to make sure all these people are paid, even though nobody's in the hospital

because the corona, the curve has been flattened and way less people are going to the hospital with Corona. so they got to find a way to keep generating revenue where they're going to have to fucking close. I don't know, bro. This shit, man, we talk about essentials. If healthcare is not an essential thing, then I don't know what the fuck is. If this quarantine didn't show us this,

if this pandemic didn't show us how essential health care is and why everybody in America should have access to good health care, my God. Like some shit you got to have a heart for, bro. Like, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Like, why wouldn't you just let people get free fucking health care when they need it?

And pay the doctor's top dollar. Pay doctors and teachers top dollar, bro. Doctors and fucking teachers should be getting paid top dollar. Yeah, yeah, I'm with it. Let's pay them more. That being said, it doesn't help the situation. I think what's help in this situation would be if we, and Elon Musk was talking about it on Rogan.

He's like, we just need more data. Right now we don't have any data. He was the one, my source is Elon Musk. He was the one that was saying that they're misreporting the deaths and that they're not including primary causes or secondary causes or secondary causes. For example, if you have corona but you get eaten by a shark,

the shark is what killed you, not corona, but you'll get labeled as a corona death because anybody who has corona and dies, it gets labeled as corona death. When it should be, when it should be, he had symptoms of coronavirus,

or he had coronavirus, but he also had diabetes. Yeah, he also had cancer. He also had, but then the other things, the coronavirus is causing him, they say blood clots and shit. That's the thing.

So it can lead to, to these things, but if the main reason, if 90% of the reason is because of that, that other thing you have, then maybe we blame it on that so that the whole world who's healthy isn't afraid of it. I mean, I saw the craziest statistic about Corona and Rogan said it on a podcast. This was dope. Is that the age of death for coronavirus, right, is higher than the age of death for just living. In other words, if most people die at 73 or 77 or whatever, and the average, and the average age of like guaranteed corona death is 80. You're outliving life.

We shut the whole world down for a disease that kills people who have already outlived life. No, I know. I'm going to say something. I go back to what I said originally. I don't think. I'm wrong now? I don't think they knew what this is it.

Hold on Al says I'm wrong on it. This is Elon must say this. So you tell Elon he's wrong. I don't know. It's just so that statistic is like misleading because they're taking every single person who dies and then getting the average of that death. So if a kid dies by getting hit from a car, that seven-year-old is included in that average. Right now with Corona, you're only taking the average of the people who die from Corona. And we know already that Corona affects older people

than it does younger people. So the average is going to be skewed because Corona affects older people than it does younger people. That's the point, though. That's what they're saying. They're saying that it's a disease that affects older people because they have much weaker immune systems, where whereas life, sometimes you die when you're young, sometimes you die when you're old, but if you take all those people that end up dying, and sometimes a seven-year-old is going to skew those lives shorter. But if you look at overall averages of when people die and overall averages of the people that die from Corona, they actually die later on than life.

I just think a better statistic would be if you take all the people who die from natural causes, like not a seven-year-old who passes. That's better. And I think it would be a more realistic. Oh, you're saying because if you eliminated all those, people, the young people that die in car accidents, all that kind of shit, then our life expense can see would be higher. That's fair. Great point, great point. But still, similar. Taylor, please, if you talk, then you're, you shut down the screen.

I can show you afterwards, but we can't see Charlotte anymore. No, we just can't see. Can we, is there a way where we can, like, mute her, so it just stays on his no matter what? Okay. Well, no, my, my, my, my, my, five, I find some off. Oh, okay, okay. So, um, my bad, Taylor, sorry. Um, um, So yeah, so basically you have all this like conflicting data. And I'm not saying one is right or wrong, but we don't really know what is right. And when we don't know what truly is right, we can't make accurate assessments or decisions on when to reopen the country. And that's why everybody's saying, like all the doctors are saying that the country is not being reopened because of science or data is being open because of politics and the economy.

And that's the truth to the matter. Yeah, it's sad because it's like people act like they're afraid to say they don't know. If you don't know, you don't fucking know. And Dr. Fauci said the realest shit, he was like, yo, you reopen your economy too soon. You might cause more needless suffering, more death, and you might do permanent damage to the fucking economy. Right. And if you don't reopen it too soon, the exact same thing could happen. It's all.

Hey, you Dan, if you do, if you don't. If you do, damn, if you don't. It's just, it is, I think that what's happened is they shut down the entire world, right? Literally, 80% of the world is probably locked in shelter in place, right? Cartels are telling people that they have to stay at home. Gangs are telling their members they have to stay at home. Everybody across the world is in their house. That's why I don't understand how they find time to still shoot people in Brooklyn.

It's impressive. These are hardworking gang members. It absolutely is. If, and they're shutting it down because they're like, yo, a second wave could come. We've got to be careful. If a second wave doesn't come and if the numbers come out, the show that this actually wasn't as bad as they said it would be,

you think we will ever trust them again about a health crisis? Who is them, though? The Fauci's of the world, the CDC, the people that basically said for our benefit, we got to stay inside. If it turns out this wasn't as big a deal as they said it was, we'll never trust them again. So you don't think, in my opinion, we won't trust them again.

You know, you know why? In my opinion. No, you know why? Yeah. we still trust meteorologists, bro. We still trust fucking weathermen. Weathermen can tell us this about the snow and it's going to be eight feet of snow

and we go to the grocery store and we buy all this shit and nothing happens and we still turn the fucking news on. Like we still trust Weatherman, bro. Yeah, no, that's interesting. That is true. It's technically what Fauci and I'm doing is just a forecast.

Yeah, but here's the thing. A weatherman doesn't like make my family's business go out of business with their decision, right? If they're basically like, it's going to rain tomorrow, but they're not saying, yo, everything that you guys work for, you got to shut down and now just sell it and it's done.

Right? Because that's what's going on. That's what's the stake right now. It's like, what is it, but is it Fauci's fault? No, it's not Fauci's fault. Like, I think that the doctors are doing what doctors do, right?

Is make decisions based on close to worst case scenario to save as many people as possible, which I think is the admirable right thing to do. I don't think he's a villain. I think he's doing everything that's right and he's an honorable man. I think that politicians, right, who have acted on this, have said, this is so deadly, it's going to get everybody, we've got to be careful.

And then it turned out to not be as deadly. And they don't want to look wrong. So they're basically saying, hey, how do we make this seem as deadly as we said it was going to be so we don't look wrong? And then they go, all right, anybody who's got corona symptoms, just include that as a corona death. Do us a favor. I think that's how that works.

I get it, but either way, 80,000 people dead is, it's enough for somebody to be like, okay, yeah, that's bad. You know what I'm saying? Like, when you see that death toll on TV all day long and they're just ringing it off, you're like, I don't want to be in that number. And I think all of us, to this point, probably know at least one person who passed away from coronavirus, maybe. No question. I had it. You're 100% right. I know, I know three.

You know what I'm saying? My uncle Jim, brother Akbar, Mohammed. as well as Fred de Godson. You know what I'm saying? So it's like these are three people that I personally know, right? So it's like, that's enough for me. This is America, maybe. All we need is one.

You know what I'm saying? All we need is one. Once that one person gets it, everybody's like, shit. It's real. You think you think millions of people didn't start wearing condoms in the 90s when Magic got HIV? Right. Yeah.

You think with EasyE died, millions of people didn't start putting on condoms? Yeah. Come on, man. That's just the era we live in. Yeah, it does make it real. 100%. Don't deny that.

And I want to save as many people as possible. There's no question. You know, but there are a lot of things out there that kill far more people than Corona that we seem to not really care about. Smoking. I agree. 100%. You know, real talk, they tried to outlaw vaping because they're like, yo, it's killing people.

And people went, fuck you. Trump said that. Trump said we should outlaw vaping. I said bacon. Trump said. Trump tried to outlaw vaping. Listen, smoking kills 480,000 people a year. And smoke cigarettes have no nutritional value whatsoever.

That shit is just for profit, bro. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. I, you know, people don't like that. They're like, oh, smoking is not addictive and smoking is a choice. And I listen, either you care about life or you don't. And look, you have, I guess the difference between Corona and smoking is that smoking is your choice to hurt yourself.

Corona, you could be hurting someone else. And it is an important distinction to make. If Corona only affected you when you went outside, we would be still at work right now because people would be able to take a risk with their own life. But now you're taking a risk with someone else's life. That's right. And that's why it is different.

That being said, we do have a lot of things to cause a lot of death and we just accept and move on with our life with it. And it's eventually we're going to have to open the economy. It's no question. Eventually we do. We all agree on that. It's just, I mean,

that shit's open already. I still believe that coronavirus, I still feel like they don't know what the fuck it is and they didn't know what it was. And so everybody just was like, whoa, shut everything down until we figure it out. And I still,

I think right now there's still more than one strain of coronavirus, only because coronavirus, some people get it and after 14 days, they're good. Some people get it and they are fucked up. Now you got these kids getting it

and they're developing, what's it called, Kawasaki disease. I don't know. Oh, yeah, man. That's the scary part. It's one thing when it's one thing when it's the older people in your adults, but when it starts affecting the kids, come on, man.

It's something called Kawasaki disease. I think it affects your respiratory system as well, and it gives you some type of rash and something else. But it's just like, and it's like a couple kids in New York already died from it. Are they dying? That's another thing. It's like they throw an air statistic out there scared a shit out of you. A couple of kids died.

A couple kids in New York died of Kauasaki disease. I know Chris knows. It's an Asian word. Chris, is Chris there? Yes. You know Kausaki disease, right? Yes. Have you read about it?

Yes. It's a side effect of Corona, right? It's an inflammatory condition that they think is linked to corona. Boom. So, yeah. They think. Hey, man. I'm sure they're making it up.

I wouldn't worry about it. They're probably just making it up. You think so? Chris is being- Of course not. Oh, what the fuck? I was like, what? I'm like, hell no.

Yeah, listen, all of that stuff like that, it's just like, I'm not taking no chances, bro. I'd rather be safe to them, sorry. But I'm also one of the people who knows that they are in the position to where I don't have to take any chances. I'm not a person that I'm not an essential worker. I'm not a person that has to go to work. I'm not a person that,

you know, have no choice but to take their kids to school because I have to go to work. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know. I think if we actually knew what the fuck was going on, we could make some decisions. But the reality is we don't. And it's been so- Nobody does, though. Nobody does.

It's been so skewed and so politicized that it makes it even that much more difficult. That is the fucked up part about it. It has been politicized. But here's the thing that everybody needs to understand. Something is going on. 100%. Something is making people sick. Something is killing people.

All of the shit about, when people say it's not real, that's just stupid to me. How do we say the most people possible? That's really what it comes down to. I think we're doing it now. I think what's happened to past too much is how you say the most people possible, outside of getting a vaccine or some type of treatment.

Apparently, the total death toll of people is down because everybody's just inside. So you're not having like work-related deaths. You're not having car crashes. You're not having all these other things. So the total human death toll is actually less. Corona is actually saving lives. Once again, essentials.

I don't lead, I don't have, I'm a home body. I like being home. Yeah. There's no, what's the point of just being out? Yeah. I never understood that. I got to just be out. Why?

Like, why? I'm not going to lie, bro. Like, the other day, I was walking out of the tree with my girl in this Italian place set up shop and they were open. They were serving some little apps and some, drinks that you could take on the street. And I wasn't even hungry or thirsty, but I just bought some shit just because I wanted that human interaction.

I wanted to feel, like, I want to feel that, like, sense of normalcy again, you know? I get it. It was great.

I loved it. I fucking loved it. I get it. I get it. Listen, I want a little boozy, man. Well,

yeah, tell me about this boozy thing. I don't know if you saw the comments that little boozy made, but, Taylor can probably put the clip in, but basically a little boozy man. little Boosie. Let me see if I got a transcript over there anywhere. We can move on. Shit you won't care about next week.

Oh, you don't have it in here, Taylor? A little Boosie shit. Basically, little Boosie was taking smoke because he said that he's paid women to give his nephew and, I think, son, oral sex. How old are they? Like 12. Like 12 and 13, I believe. Yeah, it's tricky. I think I got head when I was 14, maybe. From who, though?

An older woman? Nah. That's what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, she wasn't old. I'm trying to think, though, man. Like, yeah, it's tricky, man. It's illegal.

I don't think it's tricky. I can see, listen, I think that if Lil Busy was to get arrested for that, which I see people calling for. I see people, you know, sending his video to the police department in Louisiana. So if, you know, they came to investigate him and, you know, like child services and they arrested him, I would totally understand why. I think that this situation is bigger than a little boozy, though, because I think it's generational, I think it's generational trauma, but I also think it's the way that we look at manhood.

you know what I'm saying? Like it's like the younger you start having sex you know for so long in this country it's like you're like they paint you as a as a man so to speak. Right. You know what I mean?

It's like like the way we look at daughters like if our daughters are fucking early or if an older guy was fucking with our daughter we mad at our daughter and we want to kill the dude if it's a young man with an older woman we're kind of cheering the shit on. Yeah, we reward it. Yeah. And as somebody who, you know, me, I got molested when I was eight years old and I just started calling it molestation over the past few years all before. I was just

like, I got ahead when I was eight years old by older woman. You know what I mean? But when you're young, you don't look at it like that. And I've told this story a million times like, you know, me and all my boys, we was eight, nine years old talking about these older women that we was fucking around with and actually clowning each other saying that we were lying. And I'm when the truth to the matter is all of us was probably getting motherfucking touched on. You know, regardless of what the intention is,

abuse is abuse. And you don't know how that's going traumatize, you know, somebody later in the future. You know, so I think it's a larger conversation that's bigger than, that's bigger than Little Bootsy. And I think that conversation is just about, once again, the why of it all.

Like, why do we over-sexualize men? and make men feel like, you know, the sooner you have sex, the more of a man you are. You know? Like, I don't see why we're in such a rush to, you know, like turn, turn boys into men per se.

You know, there's just certain things you should discover on your own. Yeah, I felt that as a kid. But I don't lose my virginity by this age. Am I a loser? You know, if I'm not... Why'd you feel that way? Probably movies or something like that.

You know, maybe TV shows. shows, maybe social pressure, you know, I think, and that shit carries as you go, you go on into like, you know, you're, you go to spring break, right, with your friends. And it's like, well, if I don't hook up on spring break, then this shit was pointless. And you put all this, like, unnecessary pressure on yourself to, to, like, achieve these goals that really aren't goals. Like banging a girl drunkenly in spring break is not a goal. It's not an accomplishment. But I think it's, it's like, I thought I probably was like, I probably was thinking like, oh, if I'd that, then I must be like charming, funny and like good looking. That will validate me as those things.

And I think as I've like had more success in my career, I'm more validated by that instead of like these these weird like accomplishment, like treating women like accomplishments, if you will. Yeah. But, you know, to the boozy thing is interesting because yeah, it is generational and it is cultural too, you know, like I think I think there's certainly pressure not only from your friends, but your family, right? What do they always say? every Christmas. So you got a girlfriend? So what's going on?

You got any girls in your life? So what's good? And you want to come to Christmas and go, yeah, I got a girl. Or yeah, I'm hooking up. Or yeah, I'm getting laid. And that's exactly like when you look at the Boosey situation, it's like attacking Boosie isn't going to change that ideology, right?

Because to me, when I guarantee you, if you to have a conversation with Boosie, Boosie would say his uncles did that to him. or his father, you know, did that to him. Some father figure in his life did that to him. So in his mind, that's a rite of passage when you get to a certain age. It's kind of like the sick perverted version of a bar mitzvah. Right?

You know what I'm saying? Like that's when you become a man in his mind. Yeah. Right? So he's just passing on what he was taught. So it's just like, how do you break that cycle? Right? Because to me, I want to be able to pass on more to my kids than just trauma. That's not what I don't want to pass that on to my kids.

And then also when you're from the hood, man, when you're from the hood and you from the ghetto, you really don't got nothing else to give your kids. Yo. So what I would tell Busy now is Busy, you got way more to offer your kids than probably the people that raised you had to offer you. All they could offer you was that, that hood shit that gave you that sense of pride and that sense of validation. I got hell when I was 13.

Yeah. My older woman, you know what I mean? but now, Bousa, you got way more to pass on to your kids than just that kind of trauma. Yeah, and he probably is doing that too. Like, he's probably passing on way more. But, yeah, and it's a weird thing. Like, even calling it trauma is weird because what makes something trauma and what makes something culture? Like, if that's what happens to everybody and everybody, his family and all those people's friends are doing that exact thing.

Well, culture can be a crime. It could be a crime outside. You could be in a drug family. That's the culture, but it's still a crime. Yeah, but you're saying a drug family? Yeah, you could be a family that the father sold drugs and uncle sold drugs and you started selling drugs. It could be that culture of that family, but it's still a crime.

It's still wrong. It is still wrong. It's still a crime. But I don't know if it gives you the same trauma than if you experience something way different than everybody else experienced. It depends, right? Like I looked at, like I said, I all. always started talking about my situation

because I saw Tyler Perry on Oprah crying. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You could watch a movie like Antoine Fishing. Antoine Fisci was getting, you know, touched on by a young woman, this and that. Like, I don't know if certain, if guys, some guys may not want to do that. Think about it, right? If you're in the hood, if you anywhere, not even just the hood, if you anywhere,

and you're getting pressured by an uncle or father, like, now you're going to come, you're going to let this woman give you head, this and that. What if I don't want it? Yeah. You know what if I'm just doing it? Because daddy's making me. You know what I'm saying? Like that shit is a lot.

Like, I really wonder if you never saw Tyler Perry and nobody ever told you otherwise if it would be less traumatic or more traumatic. Like, is ignorance bliss? I'm going to be honest with you. I don't even know. You know what I don't think?

No, I don't think ignorance is bliss because if it was, it would be a lot more happy people. But I think when it comes to that situation, I wasn't, I was traumatized when I was young because I made her stop. Like I literally took fucking firecrackers. The little shit that you throw and they pop on the ground,

I was throwing them at her to leave me to fuck alone. But the trauma didn't come. I mean, of course it felt good when she's doing it to you. But the trauma comes when you know that this woman is doing something she shouldn't be doing to you and you're telling us stop. Right. And the trauma comes from her calling me ugly after the fact. Like, oh, you know,

ugly anyway. Yeah. I didn't want, you know what I'm saying? Like, and going out of her way to, like, make me feel fucked up. All right.

So check it. Let me give you a different example, but like something that's totally normal, right? Like circumcision, right? I'm circumcised. Right? Mm-hmm.

That's totally normalized. Everybody gets served up. It's totally normalized to the point where if you're not circumcised in America, people look at you like something's wrong with you. Right? Okay.

That being said, it's pretty traumatic. Someone's snipping off the end of your dick. Like, without my permission, without anything, you're just cutting my fucking dick up. You're just mutilated my dick. And nobody's going to ask me about that shit. Like, nobody asks me permission. You're a child. And the parents, the parents give permission.

That's my point. You're a child, right? So, like, that shit happened to you when you were a child. That's why it's wrong. That girl was suck on your dick. I'd rather a girl suck my dick than cut it off. What the fuck? I'm just saying, is it interesting?

You know why I'm pro circumcision? Go. Because you're being so insensitive right now. Think about all the women who've been traumatized by them goddamn fucking turtleneck penises. Son, that's the, that's the PR that they give, bro. What if they like that shit better? Like, this is how amazing the PR is around circumcision? Think about this.

We call your dick if it's not circumcised. We call it uncircumcised instead of just a dick the way a dick is supposed to be. You know what I'm okay? So they've, like, made us feel a certain way about our dicks that if they're not that... Actually, it should be called natural, right? Natural, it should be organic. It should be called dick. Organic.

Organic dick. Literally the whole food. The whole of it. Do you know what I'm saying? But like, what do they do with all that foreskin? That's where they make the yarmacas. Bro, what if that shit is that leather on your goddamn chair? That's bowling.

That's bowling right there. What if all of us been sitting on four-skin couches all these years and not even known it? That's next level balling right there, bro. And that's why when you sleep and you sweat a little bit, it's so sticky. You got to peel yourself off that foreskin. Oh, listen, all I'm simply saying is I think it's a larger conversation to be had with the little boozy thing. I don't think it's about one individual. I think it's about an ideology because I've seen this a million times.

I remember, I don't know what the thing. fuck I was watching. It was something with Little Wayne. A little Wayne talked about how he made one of his artists, I think it was Chuckie. It was somebody. It was somebody. He made them get head. And he was like, that's what baby them used to do to me. And I remember Cameron said in the rap one time. Did he to Usher? Didn't Did he take Usher around, get his dick sucked a bunch early on or something like that? I don't know. Nothing about that shit. I thought that, didn't that happen? Like when Usher was young and coming up, wasn't there a story told you? Like Diddy told him it took me around and I learned how to be a man,

blah, blah, blah. I don't know about that, but I do know it. It did happen, right? You were there? How did it was it like? I saw the documentary. Yeah, that was it. It was in the documentary. It was like on YouTube I was watching it,

and they said that he, him, he used to do it to bow wow, but JD did to bow wow and stuff. They all do that, the young ones. That's what I'm saying, man. It's fucked up. It's a culture. You know what I mean? And it's like that's what needs to be discussed. It needs to be like, first of all, you didn't do your hair

because you got braced. But it needs to be discussed that it needs to be discussed. It's like this is bigger than one individual. This is something that men think is cool. Like men think it's cool to take a little young dude and let him get his dix up. Be supposed to see off some head or something like that. Bro, that's what I'm saying.

Like there's a difference between trauma and culture. And sometimes things that we look at as a crime and our bad are completely normalized within a culture. Like within a drug dealing family, they don't think it's that bad. Let's be honest. Still a crime, no.

It's still a crime. Or here's a better version of it. Within the political family, you know, the political families that probably got to do some foul shit to keep getting reelected or probably got to, you know, maybe like say some lies to the people to continue their power,

etc. That's normalized within the family. Is it not? Like there's two generations of Bushes that were, you know, presidents, you don't think the same secrets and the same game got passed down? Yeah, sometimes you got a lot of the people.

Absolutely. But once again, it's still a crime. You know what I'm saying? Not saying it's not. And I think the only way to show that something is wrong, sadly, is to hold people accountable, right? So a lot of times that's how when you,

a lot of times that's when people open their eyes and like, oh shit, that's, that is wrong. When somebody gets locked up, like even when you talk about politics, when somebody gets locked up, when somebody gets impeached, and you're like, what they did was wrong. Until then, you're just normalizing the same shit over and over.

And I think that's what happens in a situation like this. You know, men have been doing this shit for so long. Like, yeah, man, he's getting some pussy now too. Yeah, I got him some pussy. Like, you've been doing that shit for so long that it's like, you're normalizing that shit. And eventually it becomes circumcision. What? Think about it.

Eventually it becomes circumcision where if you don't do it, you're the weirdo. Yeah. And, oh, yes, you're absolutely right. And I tell you what else. Think about all those movies we grew up on in the 80s and the 90s. If you wasn't getting no pussy, you was a loser. And it was all about people trying to get their first piece of fucking pussy. Boom.

So, of course, we're going to feel the pressure. Every movie was, I got to get laid before I go to college. So you're going to feel crazy pressure to get laid before you go to college because you don't want to be like the losers in the movie. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah. It's deeper.

I agree with your point, though. It's a way, it's a way broader conversation than just, though Boosie's a fucked up person. Exactly. It's easy to just point the finger at a little boozy and then you feel good about yourself. But if you really want to change something up, you got to address the culture that we all live in in America, which is like, yo, it's kind of cool to get laid at a young age.

It's whack, man. But it is a double standard because we don't feel like that about women. Like women will get labeled early. You know what I'm saying? As horrors, as sluts. Yeah. You definitely don't want no old demeanor. man fucking with your daughter and you don't want your daughter

fucking young. Yo, that's true. You know how that's so fucking true? But you know what's interesting? Women will reward the the male promiscuity at a young age. Like women will say they're like, oh yeah, my kid's just such a lady killer.

You know what I mean? Oh, you see him. He's out there. Oh, he's killing it in preschool or blah, blah, blah. You had all the good, you know what I'm saying? And it's joking. It's a joke. Obviously nothing is happening in preschool. but at the same time it is rewarding a behavior. Yeah, it's kind of like, um...

Cultures passed down from the women, bro. It's like, it's like, it's like when you put, when you plant that seed, it never goes away. That's it. Like, especially when you, you know, you from a certain generation, a certain era that puts pride on sleep with as many women as possible, as many bodies under your belt as possible.

So the earlier you start, like, you know, I used to say, shit so nonchinal. I was getting head at eight by 20-something year old. Like, um, that's actually not right. Like, like, she's a fucking fuck. She was a fucking pedophile. It's just like the women that doing that shit, the boozy sons and shit is pedophile. I don't give a fuck. Like, how can you justify that shit in your mind? But, I mean, also think about what type of horrible shit is going on in their lives that they got to accept money to suck 12-year-old dicks. Like, you got some wild shit going on in your life. You got to be really struggling. Yeah.

So I'm ready to have that broad a conversation. MJ Doc, what you thought of this week? The best episode so far. I mean, this is the, you know, you get into the cost of greatness, man. You get into what he believes the cost of greatness is. What I really wish is that they had Steve Kerr talk about the different ways to win. Because Steve Kerr has been part of the tyrannical regime that was the Bulls of Michael Jordan. And he's also been part of.

of the free-flowing hippie regime that is the Golden State Warriors where everybody's high-fiving. And that's why they lost. Well, they also won, though. That's why they lost. If Michael Jordan had that team around him, they'd be on championship number six right now, seven.

Who the fuck no? No, you're right. Now, listen, you're 100% right. That being said, I'm curious about Kerr's experience in both and going, I wonder if he would say, you know what, I'd rather not win as many and enjoy coming to work every day than win them all and literally be frightened every single day in my life. There's absolutely no reason to take Michael Jeffrey Jordan personal if you're coming in there

and doing your fucking job to the best of your ability. Not the best of his ability. Because Michael, no, you couldn't be him. He made that shit absolutely clear. Okay. But all he wanted you to do was be the best you could possibly be. If you weren't doing that, he was on your ass. Do you think that was enough for him?

You really think he just stopped at, oh, well, that's what Steve Kerr does. Let me just leave him alone now. No, I think that he looked at a guy like Steve Kerr and knew Steve Kerr could do more. I think he looked at a guy like at Scott, he looked at somebody like Scott Burrell and knew Scott Burrell could do more. He looked at even somebody like Will Perdue and he knew Will Perdue could do more. So he rolled them. He was on their ass, like trying to squeeze in that greatness out of them.

And guess what? They all rise to the occasion. They can't say that they didn't. Now, they're lying to themselves that they said they didn't rise to the occasion. Every single one of them did. Okay, that is fair. And I will assist your argument because I don't think he wrote a guy like Rodman

because Rodman did what already? Woof. Came, showed up every fucking day. He gave it all. Showed up. A maniac. He was a maniac like Jordan. Mm-hmm. He was a maniac.

What do you say about Scotty Pippin? He'll pick you up 94 feet. He'll play D the whole fuck. So maybe the guys. So this is a good argument for Jordan. That being said, in order to get all the juice out of you, it's going to sacrifice some of your joy. And I wonder if they would have rather had more joy and less rings.

And Kerr can speak to that. Nah. You say nothing. No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying, only reason I'm saying no is because ain't none of y'all on the last dance. If that's how you would have played the game. It's a dick. Yo, Steve Kerr average, let me look up Steve Kerr.

Steve Kerr average like four points a game, right? Hold on. Let me see Steve Kerr. The only reason we care about Steve Kerr is because he had a successful coaching career. That's all I'm saying. He's nothing to do with his play as part of the Bulls. No, no. But the Bulls, too, though.

We remember Steve from those teams? No, no, we remember him. But the only reason that he has a place in this documentary that was as big as it was in those last year is because he is a famous person in sports. Like, oh yeah, and because Jordan punched him in the face. Yeah, and that story isn't even included if Steve Kerr doesn't go on to like win championships. Like I think if he just- Nah, yeah, well, yeah, well, yeah.

I don't, like how many people he punched in the face, he probably punched 15 people in the face on his team. You're right, they interviewed Will Purdue. Say what? They interview Will Purdue. They interview Bill Winnington. They interview Scott Burrell. Yeah, okay, I'll give you that.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'll give you that. But maybe they just include in the most interesting interviews with the most like, you know, interesting perspectives on him. Maybe. But I'm saying Steve Kerr averaged six points a game, career, 1.2 rebounds, 1.8 assists. Yeah.

Right? You're not on the last dance if you don't play with Jordan. 100%. Riding that wave, riding on Superman's Kate, hitting big shots when you needed to, being a part of that three-peed or whatever, you became a part of history. You don't become that part of history without that.

And by the way, those are the stories you tell your grandkids. Let's be for real. Steve Kerr is a legend. I love Golden State. I love what they did. But guarantee you, Steve Kerr is at dinner. People want to know more about he played for the Bulls than when he was coaching for Golden State. You're right.

The question is joy. It's like at what point do you sacrifice joy? I'm trying to take myself out of my own shoes in here because I find joy in the victory. So I relate more to a Michael Jordan mindset where it's just like whatever it takes, I'm going to squeeze everything out of myself so I expect the people working with me to also leave it all on a table, right?

That being said, I'm curious, I'm curious to see the opinion of the person that really values that every single day aspect of their life. Maybe they don't want to be part of something like that and maybe they're willing to sacrifice winning the championship. I don't see where Jordan... I don't see where they wouldn't have joy playing with Jordan, though. I'm not even joking.

Like, you know how- Did any of them seem like they were having fun? They were like, yo, he was an asshole. He's a jerk. It sucked. We were terrified. Like, multiple of them in these episodes go, we were terrified every single day.

But they didn't dislike him. No, no. They did dislike him. They just respected him. You got to respect the goat. I'm with that. Give me the respect then. Because at the end of the day,

in hindsight, when you look back, you can't say he didn't push me for no fucking reason. Yo, but you know what's interesting? When you see Jordan in the documentary when he starts to break down at that one point in time, he's starting. I know why that was. Okay, I'm curious your perspective.

I have a thought on it, but go. What is you? Go ahead, go ahead. I think he's recognizing his mortality. And I think in recognizing his mortality, it's harder for him to cope with the way that he treated people, even if it meant winning the championship. I think in his mind he justified all that behavior because he's like, this is what I had to do to win.

But now that he's separated himself from winning and he's no longer this godlike entity. No, he still is. He still is, but it has changed. The way kids treat him is different than the way you and I would have treated him as kids. Yeah, but he's still a walking memorial. Yeah, he is to us. But kids just see him as the guy who has that sneaker brand that's cool. I haven't ever even seen him play.

This is my suspicion, right? So I think that as he realizes his mortality, and I think it becomes real the way that he affected people and might have really truly hurt people. Like, he broke people. He broke players. Like broke them that they didn't come back from. And I think that there's a little regret in that. I think, and he's trying to justify it to himself. He's trying to hold on to this is what I need to do in order to win.

But the old you get, the less valuable those wins are. Because you live in the present. That's my theory. What's your theory? First of all, I don't believe that he's not even. I still believe he's relevant to kids only because like the most famous athlete ever, according to like Guinness and all of that shit is Michael George. Right, right.

Like he's the world's most famous athlete. They say he's one of the most five famous celebrities of the 20th century. Makes sense. Make sense. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And number two, I think that he was crying because he knows we live in this politically correct world. And he wanted to let him make him.

fly. I think, I think that he wanted to let that slur that people use, I think that that slur that was so popular in the 80s and 90s, his eyes started watering, because he just wanted to say those fucking

punks, those fucking he just wanted to let that shit out so bad. I fucking led y'all to six goddamn championships. Y'all going to talk about me like this. And it's the motherfucking things I get you fucking pussy. Like he wanted to go off.

That's why he said, let me go take a break. He went outside and smoked a cigar. I guarantee you, you haven't heard the F word used like that since goddamn somebody knew an Elton John concert was coming to. I'm telling you. I'm fucking telling you. I'm telling you that's what it was. He was frustrated.

He couldn't believe it. Because this is the thing about Jordan. This is why I don't feel sorry for nobody on them fucking teams. They were men. They were adults. Those weren't kids that Michael Jordan was manipulating. He wasn't a tyrant college coach. It was a grown-ass 30-something-year-old men.

You got a problem with Jordan, do what Steve Curdee. Push him in the fucking chest. Get punched in your eye, take the L. That was some soft shit, though. The chest punch, come on, you. What? He saw how he bigged himself up. He was like, I knew I had to stand up for him.

So I twisted his titty. And then from then on, he respected me just like any of the other. the plan. Get away from me, Jordan. Stop it. By the way, great story. Sorry,

great story. If I twisted Michael Jordan's titty, I'm telling everybody that on Thanksgiving. Every year for 25 years straight. I don't, listen,

I don't see why Michael Jordan was such a hard person to work with. Michael Jordan just reminds me of a person that wants you to show up. Yes. So,

so by the way, that's all you have to do. Show up. Bring your fucking A game and he got your back. I think this is. I think this is somewhere, I think this is a, I think you just relate to him in your expectations of yourself and the people around you. And I do as well. And I think that it's easier for us to accept his behavior because our behavior at times has probably been more similar.

Absolutely. Whereas I'm sure you've worked with people who don't subscribe to that. And it's probably really hard for them to get. get his behavior. And they don't win. And that's the truth. That's the shit Jordan said that was so true. Yep. That y'all don't want to win.

Y'all don't win like me. You never won anything. God damn. It's the truth. It's the truth. But yo, you know what I noticed from this? You know how they're talking about like using the, he used the grudges? He would even make up the grudges to like get him to have that intensity that he needed

to win? I know you love that. I know you love that. I was actually thinking about you at that because I know you probably do that. on a regular fucking basis. But what I thought was interesting is he was actually so superior to everybody else playing the game at that point in time that all it required was his intensity to guarantee victory. That's what people don't recognize.

He was so superior that the game was actually boring to him. So he needed a grudge or a reason to have that focus. And once he applied that focus, you could not be. Jordan. Unbeatable. I agree with you and I have never seen I have never seen a urban legend a conspiracy theory addressed so eloquently and such a button put on it that you can't even dispute why he initially walked away after the first three people.

Go on. When they when they show you Michael Jordan's life and how he was a prisoner of his fame. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he couldn't go anywhere. And it's just like, you could tell he didn't really like that shit. And the only reason he came back for the three-peep was because Michael and Magic had never done it. Because you got to think, at the time, Magic and Burr was the bar.

Exactly. Yeah. Until Michael became the bar. Michael was like, okay, once I get this three-pe I don't care if Magic got more rings than me. Yep. You know what I'm saying? A Bird, I think Bird got three. He was like, I did something they never did before. I'm out. You take that and put it on top of that. His father got killed. Right?

It's like, I'm out. Yep. I've accomplished everything I need. Because right here is fucked up. Yeah. Michael Jordan has such a high emotional IQ. The mental was fucked up. Uh-huh.

His emotions were fucked up. I can't go out there and perform. You know what I'm saying? Imagine you was a dirty, and don't think people wouldn't have done this. Imagine you's a dirty-ass fucking trash talk. Oh, they'd be talking about it. Yeah, 100%.

Oh, my God. 100%. Oh, my God. They'd have been saying shit about his dad. Wild shit. 100%. If it was, if it was, wasn't, okay, maybe the players wouldn't have.

The writers would. The writers would and the people in the fucking stands? 100%. Oh my God. The people in the fucking stance and he would have been out of it mentally. So for him to go take that break for a year and a half, like that shit made so much sense to me. I totally understood.

Like when there was this one, the one reporter on there who kept saying, everybody wanted to know why. He just fucking told you why. Yeah. I also think, I also think like, you know how like when a werewolf a werewolf has such like an intense experience being a werewolf that when it's done,

the guy just wakes up in the middle of a forest and he's like, what the fuck happened? You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Jordan taps into an intensity that few human beings are capable of tapping into outside of like a fucking baby being stuck under like a car that you need to lift up.

You know, like I think he taps into an intensity that is so pinpointed that there's a cost to that shit. And he did that for eight years. in the league or however many years it took him to get his first championship and then win two more, I literally think he was fucking exhausted. I think you get exhausted by that. He was. He was. He said he was mentally exhausted. And then add the dad's shit, add all the other fuck shit. It's like, nah, forget it. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. Like that shit made, like that shit made so much sense to me. I don't know how anybody could ever argue that. That shit wasn't no gambling. It wasn't no

suspension. It wasn't none of that. Like that shit, you've, it's hard for us to fathom that because we've never performed at a level like that. Right. you've never been the most famous motherfucker in the world. You don't know the stress that comes with that. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Like you don't want to be a prisoner in your success,

but guess what? That's what comes with it. But a lot of these people realize I can't wait to leave this shit alone. I can't wait to go enjoy life. Yeah. And that's what he ultimately did. Yeah.

His motherfucker don't care how you dress. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like he's just out here. He owning his fucking Charlene Hall on his team, living his best life. I love it. I've never seen anything like my good.

That scene when he was in that locker room with that baseball bat, smoking that cigar. That was iconic. He just lost to the Charlotte Hornets. I'm getting that shit frame, bro. No, it wasn't after the loss. It was before the game he was about to play and embarrass B.J. Armstrong. Yeah, because he had lost the game before. Oh, I thought you meant it was like right after that game.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had lost the game before. We're on the same page. But just him sitting there with the bat. Iconic. Smoking a cigar. And the dude's like. I forgot who he was talking to.

I think I might have been Ron Hopper. He was like, are you upset? He was like, no. But I got to be upset about it. Knowing he's pissed the fuck off. Oh, my God. Just next level. But dude, taking the hacks.

Dude, taking the hacks with that bat. Cigar and his mouth. Like, that's something out of a cartoon. That's something a supervillain does in a movie. Right? That is a Marvel movie super villain. Has a bat that he's hitting like this. his hand while smoking a cigar before he goes and, you know,

handles his business. What about when he's turned into little doo ball? When he was like, with that mouth, do-ho? What the fuck was he saying? He was cursing to Burrell? Yeah, he was like, what the, he was like, you fucking hoot? Yeah, you hope. Bitch-ass hoot.

I'm like, that's how I know he let the maggot fly. Oh, they did some clever editing for sure. Oh, listen, the nine, I know for a fact. That word got edited out of the last dance. At least no less than 750. Keep it 100. You barely hear him say the N word. I don't even know if he says the N word once.

You think Jordan wasn't dropping the M bomb? Listen, Scotty, Jordan, all of them. Come on, bro. Yeah, the only person that came close to saying it was Carmen Electra. When Jordan walked in the hotel room? Who is this? Exactly. She was quoting Jordan and they just cut it right when she was like that.

She was like, Michael walked in and said, Man, they just cut it. She's the only one. But that shit was good. Man, I love it. I can't. They just finished. They're still editing episode 10 now.

That's what I heard. Yeah, they hadn't finished it because they moved it up. Yeah. They were supposed to come out in June, so they moved it up. So it's going to be interesting to see how it ends, man. I'm not going to lie. I almost cried. The father's shit, man, when he was on that floor sobbing, bro.

Yeah, yeah. That shit was almost fucking Thomas J. And my girl getting stung by the peace, bro. I'm not going to lie, bro. that shit was right there. The tears didn't fall. But, like, everything up to, when I'm about to cry, everything that leads right up to them tears coming.

Yeah, yeah. Woo. Boy, that shit touched me, man. Yeah. Because all of these years, I thought he was crying tears of joy. Nah. Just because he had came back, that motherfucker was in agony. Yeah.

He was hurt. Yeah. Like. Because you never heard him cry before. Nah. It was always the picture. But when you hear him fucking, like, weep. Like now you now you know what that Jordan meme was so ugly

Because when he cries he cries Bro Michael got the worst ugly cry of all fucking time Like God damn like that that was I mean sobbing like I was like oh shit And it was justifiable I understood the pain Got it understood exactly why he did what he did man I have a new respect for Michael Jordan Michael Jordan got to be

I don't know man that's one of the greatest motherfuckers devil Oh, one of the greatest humans. Yo, they said it... They said it really good. They're like, you could make the argument, and most people would, that Michael Jordan is the best at doing his job,

or is better at doing his job than anybody in the history of doing their job. I agree. And that is, that is a really interesting thing to say, but it's truthful. Who was better at their job

than Jordan was at his? Alexander the Great, Gangus Khan? Like, the only people you can truly compare him to in terms of doing their job? People that changed the fucking world. Change the world, bro. Revolutionized the world.

You're not even talking about athletes now, right? We're talking about people who, what Massimusa or whatever that fucking guy was. Like, you're talking about, you're going thousands of years back, and you're talking about people who change the fucking world, dude. Yeah, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, think about this sincerely. Think about this sincerely.

You're going into battle and you need a general. would there be somebody better than Michael Jordan rallying troops? No. This is what he does for a frivolous little game of basketball. Imagine life or death. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know, man. I never seen no shit like it ever, honestly. I guess actually very, it kind of shows you what your brain is capable of doing too. You know what I mean? He's using more than we're using. Yes, what I'm saying. Exactly.

I would love to say sometimes. I got to take a piss. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. All right. Andrew took a piss. Listen, man, I think we almost done. No, you had a point before I went to take the piss. Oh, no, I was Jordan was tapping into... Oh, yeah, Jordan was tapping into something in his mind that most humans don't tap into. You know, it's just a level of whatever you want to call it, the law of attraction.

You know, you want to call it the power of intention. Whatever you want to call it, he was tapping into something in his mind where he had a level of, man, I wouldn't even call it optimism. Optimism is not the word. Intimism is the hope for something. I think it's more than intensity. It's like, yo, you're not going to beat me. Focus.

I think what it was is at his highest ability, he couldn't be beaten. But in order to get to his highest ability, he needed to have extreme intensity and focus. He's like a real life superhero. Like Hulk has to get angry for powers. That's what Jordan was. He needed that. Like, he was almost like the monster, right? He was the monster.

That shit was kind of based off his life. Yes. He was, let me take this from you. You give me that, George Carl, you walk by me in a fucking restaurant and don't say hi. Garr, come. Let me eat that now. That's it. Now you can't beat me.

You know what I'm saying? Oh, a fucking, who was the other guy? Lamar Bradford, you put your fucking arm around me and told me nice game. How dare you compliment me? cock sucker. Yo, imagine what he would have did to the Pistons if there was another game after the Pistons walked off the court

and didn't shake the game. Forget it. You might have scored 100. Forget it, forget it. I mean, it's not even a question. And it is fascinating to see the other players talk about it because the Hulk reference is the best

because what do other people say about Hulk? You don't want to piss him off. You don't want to make him angry. You wouldn't like him when he's angry. You wouldn't like when he's angry. And as these, everybody, players, coaches, et cetera, go, man, we shouldn't have done that. I knew I should have done that. Hey, you should have did that.

Because the players themselves knew that when Mike taps into that extra level, there's nothing that can be done. Nothing. So why didn't anybody ever get smart and just be nice as fuck them? Ty Borel did. Scott Borel. Whatever. Scott Borell did. But I'm talking about the opposition because clearly he didn't have no problems. having fun.

Like he would go golfing with Danny A and shit like that. Like, why wouldn't you just be extra nice to Mike? Yeah, you should. Hey, you're the best, Mike. Killing him with kindness. Yep. Mike might have been, that might have been the only way to beat him.

Mike, you're the best. You are so good, Mike. Love might have been Michael's Achilles Hill. Yes. Word up. Yes, that is true. I'm going to tell you the other impressive thing about Mike. You didn't get hurt.

You got hurt that one season. And it's like after that smooth sailing, bro. It's unbelievable. Unfucking real. Unreal. And it's not like he really, I mean, yeah,

he took care of his body head that Tim Grover was his trainer, but like, it's not like he wasn't out drinking and smoking. It's not like he wasn't, it's not like he was sleeping all the time. Like this guy really pushed his body

to the limits and still maintained like peak physical condition. It's unreal. He's, he's the goat. He is the standard. He's the standard.

He's the standard. He's the standard. I wish Skip Bayless would lay off LeBron, though. Why was he saying? It's just like every week. Like, this is not about, because here's the thing, it's unfair to attack LeBron over the greatness of Michael Jordan. Because all LeBron is, is another player under Michael Jordan.

Yeah. And it's a, it's every, by the way, it's literally everybody else. Like, that's just the truth to the matter. It's Michael Jordan and then everybody else. And you can rank everybody else however you want. Is Bron, it's Bron, top tier after Jordan? Of course he is. Of course he is.

And that's a great company to be in because you got Jordan, you got magic, you got birds, you got all of these great players. But it's just like, Skip Bellis goes out of his way to fucking like shit on LeBron,

as if LeBron is really any threat to Michael Jordan's legacy. He's not. Yeah. He's not. He's not. Yeah. He's not.

They just bored. They just need some shit to talk about. Listen, I want to end by saying, rest in peace. six nine yeah well maybe

one day God bless them I pray I pray for I pray for everybody so I pray that don't happen but whatever

but I pray rest and peace to Andre Harrell oh yeah you know what I'm saying Andre Harrell is a good guy man a good brother

somebody who over the past I'll say four years I've had many an extensive conversation with you've heard me say a million times my top two favorite record labels of all time or Rockefeller Records and Uptown Records

I've always been a huge uptown fanatic I've always been somebody who championed Uptown you know when the new edition movie came out I was like yo this needs to be the next movie that gets made to the Uptown Records biopic and I'm not sure how me and Andre connected I don't know if it was through that or maybe it was through a vote

I'm not sure what it was, but man, that was a brother that I used to have a lot of great conversations with. I actually spoke to him. That Tuesday, he died on a Thursday. I spoke to him that Tuesday. And it's just so interesting, right? Because on Tuesday, he sent me, he started texting me at like five in the morning.

Because a lot of people know I'm up that time, so they either call the text. But he started texting me about five in the morning, and there was about one specific thing. And from five o'clock that morning to about, probably 11.30 that night, he just sent me all of these, when I go back and read it, it's all of these detailed messages about something he wants to execute

and how we should go about it step by step, right? And the last thing I said to him was, oh, this is very interesting. I'm going to send you, you know, some of the stuff that I'm working on tomorrow because it's kind of in the same vein. And he was like, and I keep, I keep looking at that text and it just made me think like, wow, there was no tomorrow.

You know what I'm saying? It was that Tuesday and it was Wednesday he passed on sometime Thursday. And then Wednesday, I was looking at, you know, my man Jesse Collins, Jesse Collins, I posted on Instagram about how Andre was calling him and Andre was adamant about, you know, adding something to the story of the uptown records, you know, biopic. Like, yo, I want this in. I want this in. We got to make sure we land the ending, whatever, whatever.

Like he was just very adamant about that, right? And it just makes me think like, oh, man, do we know? You know what I mean? Like, do we know when? And then I think about my grandmother and my grandmother. She, you know, she passed away on Cinco de Mayo in 2006. Like my mom and my little brother always say she put her wig on like she was going somewhere, sat in her favorite chair and passed away.

But it always makes me wonder, do people know. You know what I mean? And it hurts me that somebody like Andre who was about to get. get celebrated in a real way because, you know, BT Greenlit, the Uptown Records miniseries last year, you know, and he had been, you know, working with the writers on the script and, you know, he's very involved with the project. I mean, right, you know, very, very involved with the project. So I was looking forward to seeing him get his flowers.

You know what I mean? And, and be celebrated by the culture in real time. Like, me and Andre have been talking about for the longest, yo, the, the, the, the, the uptown records movie release party? It's got to be 90s themed and, you know what I'm saying, New Jack City Wear, like all of that type. Like we have been having these conversations since the three or four years that I've known him, you know what I mean?

So I don't know, it's just sad. And he was such a good brother. He did a lot of things for me personally and professionally that he didn't have to do. You know, it's a young lady named Gina Lisa, to Sulu to Gina Lisa. Gina Lisa works for like Medicaid, if I'm not mistaken. But I remember me and Andre having this long conversation about people being taken care of when they're older.

Like, you know, your mother, you know, your father, like when they get older and they got dementia or Alzheimer's or whatever it is. It's like, yo, who takes care of the parents in these situations? And he was just saying like, yo, you really need to sit down with this. you know, a young woman, Gina Lisa, because this is what she does. People don't even know that these type of things are available. You can have caretakers and this and that and Medicaid will pay for it.

Like all of it. Like he was just very in tune about stuff like that. Just so happened, somebody in my family, actually my wife's family, really needed that at the time. You know what I'm saying? My wife's grandmother.

So me having that information and just passing it along, like, yo, this is what Andre told me. We ended up, making that happen. You understand what I'm saying? So now it's just like my wife's grandmother has the care that she needs and the right people are being paid for it.

So it's just like little things like that on a professional level. He helped me with. And I definitely showed him mad love for it. You know what I'm saying? And I always told him how much I appreciated him and valued him. And I even had Gina Lisa on the show after that. If you go look up on the Breakfast Club, it's a YouTube interview. with a woman named Gina Lisa.

So for anybody out there who has, you know, elders in their family that need, you know, caretakers or caregivers, I can't remember what the exact term is. You just need some type of help in that arena. You should go watch that interview because she can, you know, push you towards that. But that's what Andre, that's one of the messages

Andre wanted to get out. Like, his mind was always on the future, the futuristic vision. You know, Sean, man, you ever thought about when you 70 years old, 80 years old? You know what I mean? Like, who's going to take care of you?

You know, like, who's going to take care of me when I get older? So he was always on that mindset, man. You know, just a good, good, good, good brother, somebody who I model. I'm not going to say model because I was already doing it, but somebody I look at when I see him and I say, that's the way you're supposed to move. Like, everybody around you should be bigger than you. Like, you should be in the business of making stars.

You should be in the business of empowering people. Right. You're saying, like Andre Horel through way more assist. then he necessarily scored points. But he won that they were all part of his team. Right. You know, Mary J. Blige, Jodicey, Heavy Dee, I'll Be Sure, Christopher Williams, you know, Diddy is an intern, you know, empowering Diddy and Bad Boy used to be

under Uptowns. That's how you got Biggie, you know, Robin Thick, you know, whether, I mean, he's just empowered so many different people, man. So I don't know if people really truly understand, you know, the loss that the coach, you took. But we definitely took a loss with that one, but it's just a reminder that tomorrow is not promised. So, you know,

the goal isn't to live forever. The goal is to create something that does. Amen. Andre Harrell definitely did that. Rest in peace, Dre, may I allow to be pleased with you definitely going to miss him in a real, real way. And

BT, a lot of pressure. But Andre was was knee deep into that story. The story is told. He told the story. So it's not like what you see when the bio pick comes out. That's all from the mind of Andre.

Like, you know what I mean? It's nothing like Andre was very involved in the writing and everything else. Like he was knee deep in it, you know? And it's not like it was halfway done. Like the story is going to be told the way he would want it to be. So that's that. We good? I think we're good, man.

I think we good, man. Guys, thank you guys so much for listening, man. Yes, sir. I'm going to ask idiot. Oh, we got to run. I'm sorry, I got to run, guys. Yeah, I can't do it ask me. We'll do it next week.

Yeah, man. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit,

you're right too. It's a brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.