The Brilliant Idiots - Lies Next Door (Feat. Guys Next Door Podcast)

Episode Date: September 26, 2019

Andrew is out in Australia so the Guys Next Door podcast (Mouse Jones, Mack Wilds, and FlyRy) fills in for Andrew and with Charlamange Tha God they discuss Telashi 69's snitching, parenting, who shoul...d and shouldn't start a podcast, and much more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's so stupid it's positively brilliant. Yep, Shalemang the God here. Brilliant idiotous. Andrew Schultz is gone. What Andrew at? He in Russia still? Where here? Australia.
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Starting point is 00:01:29 We got some special guests here. Finally, this guy has stopped fronting on the rest of his squad. You know what I'm saying? We invited them up here before. He came by himself, you know what I mean? Which is crazy because he's been here by itself several times. This is the squad. My man, Mouse Jones, is here.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And he finally bought Mack Wilds and Fly Rise. So it is officially guys next door and not the guy next door here. What's happened to my brothers? Listen, when you, if you want to, listen, you remember what Big used to do with L'C's, right? What? If you want to fuck Big, you got to fuck a little C's first? Whoa. I said C.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I said, too. Whoa. So, we remember, Big said he fucked Rupar before he fucking muggly-ass escape bitches. Yeah, why you got to add everything? I'm very specific. You like to broaden things? I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there.
Starting point is 00:02:18 First of all, the last time was not my foist. We addressed that. Look, look, you ready to get him? Relax, did he? Back back. That is kind of crazy. I know we mentioned. Biggie, but back up TV.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Like, back back. You don't need your ad list. The last time it was Taylor for, remember, I hit you. You was like, I said, yeah, we all in town. We can make this happen. You said, oh, yeah, of course, little bro, but I won't. You said, hit Taylor. I hit Taylor.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I'm going to hit you and let you know. Nobody let me know. You texted me in the gym. You texted me while I was in the gym and was like, you still coming? I said, I didn't hear back for you. I didn't think. I was around the corner from here. Ryan, he was, I don't, he was, he was, he wasn't a guy here in time.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Mac, Mac, that. Definitely want to go in the tape. I remember saying the mouse, where Ryan and Mac at? And you said to me, every now and then, Beyonce got to go solo. That's what you said to me,
Starting point is 00:03:07 Mouse. Damn, on the first album? You can't even get two or three albums. God, damn. Y'all got to, all right, bro. But you're glad that you're here. All right, man.
Starting point is 00:03:17 What do y'all want to begin? We're glad to be here, man. Where do y'all want to begin? Do you all want to begin with Takashi? Oh, I don't even know who that is. Y'all know what Takashi? Takashi is an amazing individual has provided great content this week
Starting point is 00:03:29 to social media and over this weekend. I'm doing fast. I haven't really been able to see anything. Have you seen anything? I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, okay. No.
Starting point is 00:03:39 No? Really? What y'all are doing right now is not what Takashi did. Takashi saw everything and told every goddamn thing. There's nasty work out here. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Look. I only can speak about one thing. If you're not about that life, Stay out of life. It's easy to say that, man. And, you know, I saw, I was watching State of the Coach yet. I saw Remy and Ebony K. Williams going at it. And Taylor, I want you to search that.
Starting point is 00:04:04 You really should not be trying to go back into gym pop after you have given that type of cooperation. Can I be off at this couch while she's giving people advice and tips on how to fucking snitch? She is telling you how to smitch and you got to see her listening to it. Because people are doing it. Yes, active part of the legal system likes. Don't tell you guys. Make sure you get, you know, no time at all. Like, the fuck.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Are you telling you? Don't fucking do nothing. if you can't do no time and you don't do nothing. Is that not what I just said, don't with me? I said that. I literally said that. How much time can you do?
Starting point is 00:04:34 That means you're already in court already. Right. I mean, don't do nothing, period. Stay a law about a citizen. Oh, that's ideal. But we all know that that's not feasible. Why? Because people come in crimes every day.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And they're playing people that never committed a crime in their lives. But they're not being faced with the decision. Should I snitch or should I do the time? Don't do. If you have to. feel like when it comes to that's what you're going to have to do. Just don't do nothing. I didn't think either one of them were wrong.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I thought it was just two different perspectives. Not Ebony was an attorney. So Ebony was just speaking from the perspective of if this was my client. Defending that. But you still got to be honest though. But she said, my clients are, so you have to say my clients are rat. This is what I would, this is how I would help my client rat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:18 But don't, don't try and paint it as anything else. I don't think she did. She said she said she wouldn't encourage any of her clients to do that. but if that was the last resort and that's what they wanted to do, she would say this is how it should be done. Yeah, how many cases have anyone? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:05:33 How many says she tried? I don't know anything about that. What's the research? What's a research? I'm not going to tell her on the black woman. She would have to be there to answer those questions. But she is very knowledgeable when it comes. So is a manned nigga that's locked up?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Yes, because they locked up. If they had her before, they probably wouldn't have done so much time to learn all that shit. They would have told. That's funny. And what Remy said makes a lot of sense. But listen, we're not going to sit here and act like
Starting point is 00:05:58 some of the hardest, most gangster motherfuckers didn't turn rat. That is a fact. But if they rats, that don't make, like, I get it. The hardest niggers turn rats.
Starting point is 00:06:07 So guess what? All that harsh shit, it's like you hit a hard reset. It doesn't exist. Like, Kentrick even said it like, um, I think it was on like Section 80.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Don't y'all confuse a real nigga for, you confuse a killer for a real nigga. The same niggas that killer on you. Like, just because the nigger is a killer or it's perceived to be tough. That don't mean a stand-up, nigger.
Starting point is 00:06:27 But think about that, though. We say if you don't want to, if you don't want to end up rat and don't commit crimes. No, just be. I ain't ever murder nobody. It don't matter. Be a man. If you're going to be a man,
Starting point is 00:06:37 you got to be a man all the way. And if you rat, that is a big knock against your, your manhood don't exist. Because it means there's a certain point where you'll break. Yeah, I agree. So if you know, do you have a breaking point,
Starting point is 00:06:48 don't do it. It's funny. I was just having this conversation with somebody, like, I was having this conversation with Justin a couple of days ago. And I was, it's like one of the most, I was, I said if you're in this, if you're in that lifestyle
Starting point is 00:07:01 and, you know, you, like, you're around that. It's kind of an unspoken rule. Like, even, even mob shit, like, what is that? The El Nolota. Yeah, La Costa Nostra. Yeah, La Costernoisse. You can't. Them niggas got plenty rats. But you're not supposed. You're not supposed to. I get it. The life
Starting point is 00:07:17 got a whole bunch of nicks that go against the grain. Yeah. It's still, you going against the grain. Ninety five percent of them niggas go against the grain. We got to start acting like snitching is a way of this life. It is. It is, yo. It's a way of this life. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:30 It doesn't exist. No, man. I won't say 95% but I feel like it's a high. It's a high percentage. But that's because Nick don't understand. That's because this all boils down to what we say. Me and you don't have these conversations before. If you not with the shit, don't be with the shit.
Starting point is 00:07:46 You could be a gang member and don't have to be a tough guy. You could be a gang member. Like, this shit is more about community. at the essence of it, this shit is more about community than it is about, oh, I'm super tough. There's mad gang members of all colors, blue, red, whatever, that them niggas is the niggas that go to school. Them is the niggas that put everybody in place.
Starting point is 00:08:08 That's what we need. We don't need a bunch of niggas out here doing a whole bunch of crime that they're going to eventually tell on each other for. I agree. I just think everybody's with the shits until they're faced with a situation where they may be in prison for a long time getting their shit pushed in. So they pushed that two pieces of chicken and a biscuit in your face and tell you what's up?
Starting point is 00:08:23 That's what I'm saying. I ain't gonna hold you. I just see the most fire episode of first 48 the other night. That show should be called the first rat. Exactly. It's like all he's doing on that.
Starting point is 00:08:33 That proves your point of it's a high percentage because you can't really watch that show one episode without somebody telling us somebody. This last episode I seen niggia did not tell. He still told?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Nick killed his mother. White, obviously. Killed his mother. And he almost got away with it. Like the nigger almost got away with it. Like, it's first 48. it took too much to get this the niggas.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I was enthralled. I was like... They did the recap? No, it was like, it was the first 48 was up in the first 10 minutes. The nigger killed his mom. They had all circumstances against this nigga.
Starting point is 00:09:08 They had no physical evidence against the nigga, could not put nothing on them, had him on video, going to his mother's hotel room, coming back with her bags and her call. She's not there.
Starting point is 00:09:18 He tried to like transfer bread from her account to his after she was dead. They had no. no way of proving a body and nothing. They put a track on this car. This nigga would not go nowhere. Two months, this nigga go to visit the campsite,
Starting point is 00:09:31 the grave site. And that's how they caught his ass. Two months later. He went to go visit his mom and put some lick on her grave? You killed her. What you doing that for? He buried her. Oh, all right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:09:41 He's tripping. I thought you had a real funeral. I ain't going to hold you. I'm worse than these days. I'm worse than these days. Like, I'd be watching shit and hoping the bag I get away. So the whole time I'm like, I hope this nigga
Starting point is 00:09:53 not me. I'm at the point in my life I want all these niggins. Not even just niggas. White bad guy, everybody. If you out here doing wild shit like that,
Starting point is 00:10:00 killing your mom and all that, bye. That's the one I would not say. Bye. It's none of my business. That ain't none of my business. I'm nobody's mother. It's none of my business.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Dick Gregory always did. I'm nobody's mother. Really? That's what we're taking this. Don't mind. Don't mind white folks' business. That's what I... But Dick Gregory is an amazing person.
Starting point is 00:10:20 That's a fact. That's a white dude might kill you. Fact. No, he won't. You know what I mean? I'll kill your mom. No, it won't. Like, that's some psychopathic shit,
Starting point is 00:10:26 like some sociopathic. Nah, to kill your mother got to be very personal. Back is even crazy. Because he was feeling some type of, not, you killed it, bro. So you can't miss it. No, no, that's right.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yeah. You go back. You go, you go, that fault. You should not have any feelings about your past. All of your missing feelings are, have been revoked. Because you killed? Yeah, she's done.
Starting point is 00:10:45 You're done. I think you're going to miss her most. Well, now you can't miss her. Now you got a lot of time to miss her. This sound like white people, pro. He might have went back just to make sure she was still buried. No, I'm serious, because like the earth changes, like the body man came up. I'm sure he ain't dig no six foot grade.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I definitely wasn't, but it was like in like, I don't know. It should have been some white people tan. He wasn't going to get caught. He wasn't going to get caught. He was never going to get caught. And guess what he was not going to be on if he didn't get caught? First 48. So he wanted to get caught?
Starting point is 00:11:11 You would have never saw that episode. It just got washed away. So you think he knew. He was like, nah, there's no way. He's like, they got it. I'm pretty sure there's a couple episodes we have not seen in First 48. with somebody get away and they just don't want to air it. No, that's not good content.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Now, they air them. They air them. I've seen them air episodes, but they don't ever find anymore. Yeah, they just let it go. They don't know. They just let it go. Because they never do the, um... It's a cold case. Yeah, they never do the trials no more.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Like, they did come out with like the first 48. And then it was like a trial series, but I guess that shit was a dub. Yeah, because the nigga got dragged down. You don't want to see so many nigginsching? It's like, all right. No, that's what you're watching for, but you don't want to see the nigga get the, uh... You want to see the nigga
Starting point is 00:11:48 Two pieces of a biscuit And be like Alright man Nobody Niggins said Well we got this Nutra grain Barfew
Starting point is 00:11:54 Oh His mother It was me and Johnny On Texas They did that on purpose So they starve you out Do you remember that old That you remember that old black lady
Starting point is 00:12:01 That she got everybody A snitch son I think she was from like Louisiana Son she would get everybody She'd be like Now listen now I'm gonna call your mama
Starting point is 00:12:10 She'd be like No no no I don't call my mom I did it I did it I did it First 48 should have bought the rights The 6-9 trial
Starting point is 00:12:17 That shit would have been a hauled on television That would have been fired What if what if What if when That person who I don't know What if when he come home He becomes executive producer Nah I don't want to give him that much money
Starting point is 00:12:30 Fuck out of here Max 69 about the pop when he come home He better What? You're gonna get her singing Yeah he gotta be I'm gonna get on what You gonna sing with six nine
Starting point is 00:12:38 He might come out of be an R&B single All that thing he was going on the goddamn stand As much as he's singing on that stand He might as well be an R&B singer Six nine gonna come out platinum selling. It's going to be nasty work. I don't think we're ever going to do the first interview.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Charleman. I don't think we're ever going to see him again. I think they're going to witness protection over. They're going to get those tattoos removed. They're going to go into witness protection in South Dakota. So I don't think he'll ever wrap here. I don't think he'll ever be seen again. You're acting like this Nick.
Starting point is 00:13:06 You're acting like he's Sammy the Bull, bro. This nigga told on a bunch of niggies from Brooklyn that nobody gives a fuck about. Wow. No, like you got to keep it a bean. No, but, bro, he's not going to South Dakota. My thing is that he's a high full. Bro, he's going back to Jersey to the multi-mellings he has.
Starting point is 00:13:22 He's going to release Mavreckers. He's going to make even more money. And he's going to hire the same security that he had when he was out here wilding for respect. I'm telling you nothing's going to be different. He's not going to have no money for security. That's what the fucked-up shit is on yet. Y'all are beyond confused.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You think 69 still got money? Yes. Hell no. All six-nine money is going to legal fees. Bet money. Bet money. Bet money. He'd be lying.
Starting point is 00:13:47 69 and got no money. He didn't have a lot of out. He wasn't out that long to make that kind of money when he went in. His whole album was streaming number one. These niggas don't make no money off streams. Good point. But he wasn't signed to it. He wasn't signed nothing.
Starting point is 00:14:01 So his money kind of grew up. No. Hold on, but he even said it. He said half of half or more than half of his money went to a non-tray. Yeah. Listen, they showed his bank account. It was nasty? No, they did.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah, it was like 600,000, seven and seven. or something thousand, something like that. He's only been out for less than a year. When he come home, just no. When he come home, nothing's going to happen to him. Nothing. Because we're not in the age of the aggressing no more. Like, niggas, yo, Alpo lives in Harlem.
Starting point is 00:14:30 That's what I'm going to say, bro. Alpo lives in Harlem. Not underneath any different name. He lived in Harlem. You know why snitches don't die no more? Because nobody want to go to jail for killing the snitch. No, because the niggas that they rat in prison. Them the only people who really have it out for these motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And they go on it for a long time Like once they hit the street You're just like I don't give a fuck I'm not going to ruin my life Killing this guy For somebody that's already locked If all the nicks that would
Starting point is 00:14:54 Ain't there no more Everybody just want to look tough Everybody just want to look tough On the area I got a point there I'm about to say But they're still Everybody just want to look tough
Starting point is 00:15:00 True But there's still There's still out here So Bro they're not gonna do nothing to him I'm saying If they was If they was willing
Starting point is 00:15:06 And able to shoot at Chief Keefe Somebody can make It's Chief Keith Bro Like you're talking about I feel like there'll be attempts If it happens
Starting point is 00:15:14 It happens I don't think so. I don't know. It's a spotlight on him. If you do something, you're going down. That's the other thing, and you know what you're going to tell on you.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. It was Jerome. I remember him? You remember he went to O'block? I remember his car. That nigga is going right to your crib and pointing.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Damn. It's over. Yeah, I don't think nothing's going to happen to him either. But you think he's still going to make music? I think he's definitely still going to make music. His fan base ain't tough. His fan base is little white and Mexican kids. They don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:15:45 They don't care about none of this shit. I'm bringing a valid point here. This shit is all in the way. It actually scares me. It terrifies me that this is the way that... Bro. How long do you think you're going to get? He come home.
Starting point is 00:15:56 He's moonwalking as soon as this is over. As soon as it's done, he's coming home. He's coming home. I think he's doing it two to three. He's already done a year. He's getting time served. Yeah, if he's doing time time, you might do it.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I think he'll do like another year. I only did he just going to let him out. He's getting out. No, at the end of the shit, at the end of the, after the last nigga gets sentenced, that niggas moon walking out the jail. Jesus, correct. It's nasty work out there.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Goodness gracious. That's his first song will be called Moonwalking. The first song he put out going to be fire. He might sample Michael Jackson beat it. That'll be hard, yeah. Not the sample going to be,
Starting point is 00:16:32 the sample going to be, I'm telling. Yo, he's going to be good. What if he embraces it? What if he's the first rapper of the ear? That embraces is the first. He's not the first. He's not the first to embrace the snitch.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Can you embrace it? No, Troy F. Okay. Listen, I don't think that, I don't think that, I don't think that, I don't think that, I don't think that, I don't think that six nine. I don't think none of us should be surprised about what we saw from six nine. No. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And this is the lesson that all kids should learn. Because when Remy did say that shit when she was like, yo, if you're going to be in this situation, like, if you're not about this life, don't commit crime. Six-nine was a prime example of a person who should not have been committing crimes. But also more importantly, 9, Trace didn't even have him around that shit. That's a fact, but this is what I keep telling. What we've been saying? The OG's not there no more.
Starting point is 00:17:20 It is a bunch of niggas that just want bread. So they've seen a money play. Am I mad at it? No. But when you play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. They know he would tell if he got caught anyway. No, I don't think they knew that, you know. I think they would, I think.
Starting point is 00:17:32 You can't make somebody gangster. No. And then expect them to stand up at the end of the day. Yes, you can. No. Because you're not paying attention. I don't think they was paying attention to that. They was paying attention to the bread.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Yeah. Yep. And I think that their idea of gangster wasn't, like, the perception he was given off the people via social media, I don't think they saw that. And they also, now they seen it. But they didn't see it. They know he wasn't putting in no work, though. But they also thought he was never going to get caught. Lord have mercy.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I don't know how they could think that. At all. None of this would ever happen if that situation didn't happen. You know what I'm saying? It's an ongoing case. So that's why I don't be talking about it crazy. But when he got kidnapped. None of this happens if you don't get kidnapped.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Nah, they've been watching Nintrae for five years, they said. None of it, but they didn't have nobody to turn. That's true. They've been watching, if they've been watching for four years, you know what time happened. The minute they were able to flip him. They flipped his driver. Yeah. It was over.
Starting point is 00:18:26 That kidnapping video was wild. They said ICE came for the driver. Yep. And they was going to deport him. Yep. And then he flipped. Yep. He was like, I'm going to keep driving if I can stay here.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I don't know why they would trust the driver, though, because you can't even understand when he talks. I just wired him. All right, bro. And I'm the worst. All right, man. No, where's he from? You can't understand where he talks.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I heard. Yeah. He said, they got Takashi. We know that. All right. You got anything else, but? Nick was doing on Starlet. They got Takashi.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Orsstallet said, he didn't care. He was telling her everything. So you think that the kidnapping was what caused everything? Yeah, I don't think they, me personally, I don't think the feds had anything. If they would have had something in four years, they would have took them. Yeah. They don't have nothing. They don't have anybody that's that far inside.
Starting point is 00:19:10 like that boy was to flip. Once you flip him, he is inside. That is like... You got the whole operation. That's like flipping Taylor. That's like if the other station wanted inside information, flip Taylor. She's in the midst.
Starting point is 00:19:26 She's everywhere. Damn, Tell you, Takashi now? No, no, Taylor, tough. Nah, don't do Taylor like that. Taylor from Philly. She fuck next from Philly. She's tougher. You know what her nickname is?
Starting point is 00:19:39 What is it? You know. What is it? He jumped up to you. I love it. I love it. I love it. You know they call you state property in Philly?
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yo, that's nasty. It's not why. But do. Why? Why? Wait, wait, wait, wait, why you keep threatening people? I don't know anything. Wait, now you got, if that's not why they call you state property.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Why they call you state property? No. They call you state property. I'm not saying why. Somebody got to tell us the podcast, bro. Yeah, come on. No. Come on.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Listen. the wildest shit about the Takashi Kidnapping video When Takashi offered to suck their dick That was crazy Wait what? You didn't hear the shit? Nah, bro, come on, bro, stop.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Next up. Next up, no, no, no, stop it. Stop. Don't fall into this. You're lying. I watched the whole clip. I never heard that.
Starting point is 00:20:26 He didn't, he didn't say that, bro. Yeah, he did. He was like, I give you anything, I give anything, I give anything. I suck your dick. You don't. Pull it up.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Pull it up. You didn't say. Y'all ain't watched the whole clip. I did. Oh, that's what you say when it's an audible? The clips in the back. When you said inaudible, that's what you were saying?
Starting point is 00:20:40 But if you, it says that, but if you listen, he can't. You can't listen. You said, I'm telling you, this nigga is nasty work. I know. He's going to lead us down. We do a good job leading ourselves down terrible past. He's going to drop the wall. Do you get a lot of trouble being on a podcast with Mouse?
Starting point is 00:20:56 No. You're right there. Yeah. Why you fucking say just Mouse even? What the fuck that's supposed to do? Because they knows you. And I'm right. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Whatever. No, I don't, I really don't get into that. trouble, which is funny. Funny enough. Because the people that he will get in trouble about just don't listen. Yeah. Oh, got you, got you, got you.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Until they realize Mac is on a podcast. Yeah. And then they'll start to listen and they'll be like, why are you sitting next to the mouse? He's bringing your brain down. I don't mean like that. I'm really like, because of your rhetoric. I'm fucking hot right now.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Oh, shit. You want to flip on me like, believe you over flipped on a blogger? Oh, shit. Oh, bitch. Fuck you. Ain't you in the New York undercover reboot? Don't do that to me.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Don't do that to me. Don't do that to me. This cat was stupid. Oh, shit. He's called New York undercover for another reason. They are doing a reboot. They were supposed to be doing a reboot. And I swear I thought they said you was part of the camera.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Definitely not. No. Definitely not. He's not. No. In all the fence, remember, I text you that day, they did say that. They did. Solomon is not bullshit.
Starting point is 00:22:07 They did say that Mac was a part of it. And then I was like, don't put that beat. No, I'm not playing that joke with. I wasn't part of the reboot. You know what's so fucked up, Mack from New York, four months ago. New York undercover reboot, it's like, oh, shit. One day. It only takes one day.
Starting point is 00:22:22 You heard you heard that on me? I ain't going undercover, nobody. You bugging up. Not me. No show. Not going under the covers with nobody. That wouldn't stop you from working with nobody, though, right, man? No, hell no.
Starting point is 00:22:34 What you do is, you would be gay in a show? In a show? Mm-hmm. Like not a movie, a show. Probably not a show. Probably not a show. Why not? Probably not a show.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It's too long. That's a lot of season. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Dude, my name is right. That's too long. Six. What?
Starting point is 00:22:54 Magna, like, I do a movie. Meggino. No, no, I think it would depend on the role. Like, it would have to be an actually, an actual dynamic character. What if the wire came back, right? And Michael Lee is really the new, um, Omar. Omar.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah. Gay and all. It'll be a great role to play. That'd be fine. I wonder why nobody ever tripped over. First of all, we've gotten way more homophobic over the years. We've gotten way more sensitive. A lot of the greatest actors had to do those.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Will Smith. Yeah, but he didn't have no. I think it was the fact that the niggas wasn't kissing. Only my man is Danzel. He ain't. Danzo. Yeah, Danzel wasn't rocking with that. But I'm just even thinking about when you think about like in living color when they used to do the gay.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Fox and all that. Even when I quoted Biggie earlier, we never listened to them lyrics and were like, oh, Biggie Wylan. No, yeah, I said that. No, you did. Niggas said that. No, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Niggas said. Niggas were saying that. Old niggas was saying that. Niggas was like, what he told me about. And they were talking about it. I fuck through Paul before I fuck them ugly out of his gayfitching.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I remember the first time I heard that shit and was like, this is what you're listening to? It's, but I grew up. There's no woman. Over the past couple years. There's no woman that ugly, the Paul's game. Hall of them fucked it up.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Ever since Ever since that came up You can't say nothing So Harlem started telling Holy shit And then they fucked up Things for the society Mouse Jones
Starting point is 00:24:17 I'm asking All right bro He's asking a question He was asking This Christ Let's see what I go through now But yes But yes
Starting point is 00:24:23 You're right Absolutely Hallam fucked it up Listen Charlomace Hallam fucked up the game No I didn't say that I say
Starting point is 00:24:30 Hallam definitely started The Paws game You said they fucked You said they start snitching It is weird And we have Fars With it's gonna I'm breakfast club
Starting point is 00:24:36 This weekend It is weird how people glorify those Harlem crime bosses because a lot of them absolutely rat it. Yeah. Everybody but Guy Fisher told. Preacher told. Frank Lucas.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Frank Lucas told. Ace told, well, A.Z in real life, the person that Ace was based on he told, AZ told, A. Z told. I don't think Rich would have told, but rest of peace, Rich Porter. Everybody. And I just wonder why their stories.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Bumpy tells us? Because Bumpy dies. He's that. What you said, you said that, you know, once you get caught snitching, then everything's a race. Everything's a race. So why are we telling their stories then? I don't know. That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I don't know. Because Mouths don't like paid and full. Yeah, I don't like paying four. Yeah, I think, I think, I can't like that. It's weird to me too, but. It's not because I don't like nothing that glorifies ratin. Niggas is walking around wearing paid and full shirt. Niggas is walking around with the shirt.
Starting point is 00:25:37 at least in New York. The niggas walked around with that black shirt that got Ace's face on it. He told. Oh, so you mean, okay. He fucking told. So you're not saying that the movie was whack.
Starting point is 00:25:48 You just didn't like that because the movie was great, but I don't like it because you are putting this in it. Either you're setting these niggas up like they did not tell. Niggas is on Twitter calling themselves Ace.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Niggas on Twitter calling himself, oh, I'm such and such, go St. Patrick. He told. Like, every, Nick, shut up to him. What you was about to say, Max? Before the mouse cut you off.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I didn't touch you up. It's not the guy's next door podcast. I'm going to keep a little bit. No, I was like, I mean, I guess you're right. I think the biggest thing, but I think the only thing is that the stories are still stories. And people, people, people latch on the stories. You know, the actual person and a lot of times what they do not kind of falls to the wayside. But the stories, the mythos of a story, you kind of fall in love with.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I guess you got to love like the rise in the fall, right? I'm not watching. Like, I love American Gangsta as a movie, but the two main characters, the two, is a police and a rat. Yeah. Like, that,
Starting point is 00:26:50 for me, that looked crazy. I'm having a problem with the police officer, though. He's looking too deep. He's talking about the actual person. Like, it's like you wouldn't be friends with him, and I get it.
Starting point is 00:26:58 But as far as the movies go. Movie, I didn't say movie bad. I love American Games as a movie, but you're not going to hear me calling myself, Mouse Lucas. I'm not going to wear a Frank Lucas shirt.
Starting point is 00:27:09 I don't want you to be next to me watching the movie. I'm talking about, nah, this thing about it. I don't want to hear that all this. What's wild is that? Your name is mouse. It's close. Nah, there's two different species. You're just minor told on things.
Starting point is 00:27:23 It wasn't never told on things. It was a tattle. He was a snitch. He wasn't a snitch. I'm like where it's at? Now who it is. I'll fight everybody. Don't mind.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Don't mind fighting everybody. That is interesting, though. I guess it is based on the stories because we love the fall. We love the rise and we love the fall. Like you look at Painter Full, niggas love that movie. But it's classic. Niggas told. One person told.
Starting point is 00:27:51 No, both two niggas told. Who was A. Ace told. Ace told for a good reason, though. There is no. No, I'm being honest with you. Okay. I'm going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Hold on. A. Hose told for good reason, Mouse. Because this was the, this was the conversation that me adjustment was having. What is a good reason to tell? There's no good reason to tell if you end the life. Let's keep it and pay the full for a second. I kill him. Let's keep it to pay the
Starting point is 00:28:14 for a second and then take it out. Okay. Pause. And you said twice. I didn't know you got double down. I like the first one go. He dumped down. I said. He said double, pow, pop. And paid in full, Rico. Yeah. Killed his man. Yeah. Right? He knew
Starting point is 00:28:32 he killed his man. Yeah. Stole all his dope. so he know Rico already a nigger. Then the dude he told on was an undercover. No, he set him up with an undercover police, right? Yeah. So I don't see what the problem was in that situation. You don't use police. But he didn't tell on his connect.
Starting point is 00:28:48 It don't matter who you tell him. You don't tell. He told on somebody that did something so foul to his man. You don't tell. But in his mind, he didn't actually know for a fact those are police. Yes, he did. He did. He said that.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And he said that in a book. I'm not talking about the book. I'm not talking about what he wrote. You talk about the movie? He said it. He said, the minute the next time, he said, either the niggas. Stick up kids. Yeah, he said.
Starting point is 00:29:10 He said either. He said, it turns out that them niggas is the fed. But either way, he knew that it was going to embed for Rico. And that's what he really wanted. There's so many other ways to handle that without getting your own hands dirty. He did get his hands dirty. Right. But you got your name dirty.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And once you get your name dirty, you can't clean that. You get your hands dirty. You can wash that shit off. You can't clean your name. There's no dry cleaner in the world that can clean. name. I just didn't think it was bad because he ain't telling him. Look at Mr. C. His name is bad, right? His name is bad.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Wrong. You go down to the West Village, Mr. C. Names. That nigga's the man. The fuck is you talking about. Yo, we had an awkward moment after a guy's next door because of you and Mr. C too. We finished recording and we walk out. At first rest of it is.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Who we just finished recording with? Wax. So Ryan and Mac are sitting there, they chopping it up. You know, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't know that man. I wasn't chopping with nobody.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Y'all was in the hallway looking chummy. First of all, I didn't even say, I didn't even say, I didn't. You not your ass tight, bro. Yo, shit, sure, sure, sure, sure, you is tight? No. I don't put me in this. I wasn't dead. You was right, did what you mean.
Starting point is 00:30:23 I reported my pockets. I walked out. I said no words to that man. Oh, so it's just, man. I did. No, but I don't know. I don't know. That's not me.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I don't just go to people. Yo, you, I don't, we weren't scheduled to talk. You wasn't nothing. Like, I don't know you. I'm not going up to you. I said, Dick and the producer of Biggie Small's first album. I didn't know Biggie. He just big a and DJ.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I said what's up? I said what's up. I can't play your records, MacWiles. I don't have records for him to play. He don't play MacWild. I don't have a problem. For the record, I don't have a problem with Mr. C. All I was ever doing was Dayton obvious.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I don't have a problem with him. All I wanted that man to do was go get a boyfriend in an apartment. That would have kept him out of James. He wanted a boyfriend. He wanted a girlfriend. Whatever he was into, get that in an apartment. That's it. A hotel.
Starting point is 00:31:08 That's all I wanted that man. But as soon as I walk out the room, me and Wax walk out the room, I don't even know. Because he had a hood or I'm looking like, why does a thing look at me with it? Who does? Thoughts you was cute. All right, bro. My head was down. Yeah, long hair.
Starting point is 00:31:21 My hair was down. He knew exactly who you are. Who is that woman with a luxurious hair of beer? Oh, shit. His mustache game is. It is immaculate. Goodness gracious. Not doing this with y'all.
Starting point is 00:31:37 You, listen. I got no respect. I'm just saying the nigger don't like me and wax because of you. So he's looking at us and I'm like. I don't think you know who waxed. Everybody know who waxed. All right. That's not 2016.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Would you say you think his name? You think he's named dirty? It is Nick? His name is dirty in the streets. You can't clean that. No matter what he do. It doesn't matter how accepted. He didn't do nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Essentially. He didn't. But in society. view, just like people in society, civilians don't think snitching is wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you think he should have did the way Maligiova did it? No, I just don't think.
Starting point is 00:32:12 That's a real question. I don't think he should have. I know, because I don't think of your business. How does he do it do you, right? Whoa. Whoa, you're talking crazy. It's going on. You know, we never get into.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yo. And then I hope you're about, did you enjoy a curve? You said it in my name. I'm going to add you on Shal. I need a. You know, did y'all enjoy curfell? message? It was a
Starting point is 00:32:33 We're never going back. We're never getting invited back. It's always. All I'm saying is he... Had to him. Never doing to you. He just said he... No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:32:42 The way he embraced himself, I guess, and talked about it to the world. I don't like the way Emily Gilbert did it. I think Mr. C eventually did do that. By his third lockup, by the third time he got arrested, and he was on... I heard him on Hot 97, he was just like, this is what I do. And I think he's embraced it since then. But his name is dirty and his... I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:33:03 But he can't embrace it the first time without getting caught. To society? Would they look at it better? If he did what? If he just said it instead of getting caught first. I don't think there was any space for him to, I don't, I think an opportunity arose for Malikio. Pause. I think an opportunity arose for Malik Yoba to embrace that.
Starting point is 00:33:23 There wasn't a moment for Cedar. He could have said at any time. Nah, that's true. If he would have came out of nowhere and said that shit, it would have been over. Like, then he really would have been. Like, niggas was like, yo, it's a quiet for you. I'm not going to say it would be over, but five years ago, like, yeah, there was no room. Like, why would you just randomly say that?
Starting point is 00:33:39 You know what I'm saying? Like, there's more opportunity. Like, there was a platform for Malik over to do what he's doing now. Yeah. So. I feel like in a lot of ways the universe made it to where Mr. C., yo, like, you got to be free. You got arrested three times for the same thing. And eventually the last person, Bill & Winehouse put you on video.
Starting point is 00:33:56 So you had to say something about it. I don't know why he's not leaning into it. He should be DJing all the pride events, all that shit. I ain't seen him on no Pride Flyers, not in New York. I've never seen a Pride Flyers. What do you receive those? What email letters said?
Starting point is 00:34:11 I'm not on the mailing list. I wouldn't mind if I was, but I'm not on the mailing list. But Instagram, Twitter, like, I never see, I see Pride Fly and then never seen him. I'm pretty sure Mr. C still getting booked. I don't think Mr. C is dirty. I mean, I was about to say, I could tell you, one place I always see Mrs. C getting booked.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Well, like one, Macc, if you say something, Craig, he's going to pop on you. It's no disrespect to Mississippi because he's definitely getting booked with the Paloosas. Who? With the Palooza. He's definitely getting booked over there. What a loser? Hey Palooza.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Don't you host them shit? I don't know. You hosting the trap karaoke going on. I don't know. I'm talking to something. Hosting something with low-key, man. You're on fucking the Palosas? Why you play for him in, man?
Starting point is 00:35:01 No, no, no. He's a freezing ball, right? He'll go to crazy part. He'll go to crazy part. You're a Rory squashed on that. Who? Rory! If I have issues with any white man,
Starting point is 00:35:12 we will have issues to the day I die. Like, fucking wrong with you. I'm not dead and nothing with no... So how do you do the trap karaoke thing? That's true of the things? Trap karaoke, which is the greatest show on earth, is completely separate from whatever that shit is. But ain't this low-key and...
Starting point is 00:35:26 Low-key ain't the host of Trap karaoke. Oh, I thought low-key was the host of Trap karaoke. Nah, if you got one mouse, you don't need two or anybody. I'm the host of... the trap karaoke. He do that where his man over there. They let them tag team that, whatever that is. No. And I mean, if that's where his son
Starting point is 00:35:42 is getting booked, then that might be why I ain't seen him. I was just saying that he's getting booked. You know, my man's still getting shit. Yo, the crazy part about this, this thing is going to do this here, right? And then when something go crazy, he'd be the first one on my line. Yo, you got to have the serenity to let shit. Yo, when that shit popped this earlier this year, he was on my line. That's when I knew he really fucked with
Starting point is 00:36:06 I'm like, yeah, it might be. He was on my line the next morning. Like, yo, I heard something like, what happened? I told him, he's like, you got to have this ringy little shit. And now he do this shit right here. Like, what the fuck is from? I didn't mean anything by it. A man just said, Paloosa, I thought you was doing the Paloosa.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Yo, just saying the Paloosa sound crazy, by the way. You got to put a lick in front of that shit. Oh, who can book the hook. He got to say he and I'm booed the Paloosa. He said, what? Just the Paloza sound crazy. He said, you had the Paloza? What?
Starting point is 00:36:34 How do we get through that? from snitching, though. Because I don't think what Mr. C did is the equivalent of that at all. The Palooza's snitching. It's tan to hand. Jesus. What am I missing?
Starting point is 00:36:44 I'm missing this now. Talk me about this. Dark world. What is snitches at the bottom? Spicy. What's going on? Goodness, fucking gracious. I don't really, how did we travel down this road?
Starting point is 00:36:57 I have no idea. We started with six, nine. Sometimes where there's a fork in the road, you go straight. Jason. Let's let's just, let's just, let's go. Let's go back to Matt questions. What's next? When is an appropriate time to snitch?
Starting point is 00:37:10 There's not. That's not true. If you, all right, this is what it's called. If you are civilian, you are testifying. If you are in the life, you are snitching. I agree. There is never a time that you should be snitching. If you're in the life.
Starting point is 00:37:26 That would be snitching. I don't call civilian snitches. I never did nothing, never been apart doing nothing to anybody who is a civilian test. That is your dude. You're supposed to do that. I agree. Now, if you are a rat, a snick, if you part of, you should not be talking to police at all.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I agree. At all, I don't care what happened. There's other ways to handle your issues in that life than to use the police. I agree. To me, that makes you worse of a, if you're not, and sure it's different, but it's all the same. Sure, if you snitching to save yourself, that's one thing. If you snitching to, like, off your competition, that's crazy to me. Yeah, because the lines are blurred now, right?
Starting point is 00:38:01 Because the other day I posted this young lady who was caught up in a lot. like a sex trafficking ring, right? And I'm like, yo, it's okay if you know what this lady is to tell people that don't make you a snitch. Like, we got to get these sex traffickers off the fucking screen. And then people in my comments like, why is it okay to tell on this, but six, nine wrong, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:38:18 Like, yo, it's too, totally things. All right. Totally different things. I don't think sex traffickers should be snitching on other sex traffickers. That snitching. Yeah, but that's their life. If you're a civilian and you're like, hey, you should do this. I'm fucking telling. Look, go get them.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I hate sex trafficking. because you know that shit is the worst you gotta get niggas out of like that but I wouldn't go to the police I would be like hey civilian you should probably tell you should probably go talk I'm going if I know it's a sex trafficking ring I'm going to the police
Starting point is 00:38:46 nah I can't I'm taking the police to the house where they got all the girls I'm my I got family and I got family and friends that's still like I can't do that or you're going to bring them I'm gonna call them and say yo I know what is sex trafficking and shit going on I'm gonna show you the address and everything follow me to ride along
Starting point is 00:39:00 oh god damn it Kevin Hart god damn If they want me to ride them all. I'm dead serious, man. I'm not. I hate that sex trafficking. I'm getting tight. They say right now it's terrible.
Starting point is 00:39:12 They say they call it a shopping season. Like shopping season. Yeah, like that's what I tell. No, what you mean? They're like the sex traffickers are going out here and they are clipping these little glass. Like this is the time where they are getting them the easiest because it's back to school. So you could catch somebody going back to school.
Starting point is 00:39:27 You catch somebody coming home from school or college. You catch somebody who's new to the college going apart. This is traveling. this is when this is one is high in. I should have my whole girl, Tony, up here. She's going to be here next week. She was here yesterday,
Starting point is 00:39:38 but she got caught up in a sex trafficking ring for like six years. Are you serious? Yeah, she actually, well, the young lady is home now. The young lady from that I posted, she's home now. She was in Philly.
Starting point is 00:39:49 They had her dressed up like a Muslim or something about the ship with a Florida. But she's home now. And it's simply because everybody knows that circuit. So I guess it's kind of like the drug game or the gang banding.
Starting point is 00:39:59 The sex traffickers and the people that partake in that life, they all know they know each other. Absolutely. So you can make a call and be like, yo, that girl that y'all got, y'all need to get her back, whatever, whatever. You're making it hot. Because, you know, once people start, that's the other thing with sex trafficking, nobody talks about it.
Starting point is 00:40:16 So once an end up there, it's like, yo, let's send her back before this all goes under. Absolutely. Yeah, like this one girl can't, not, can't bring this whole thing down. But the shit isn't that. Because this is what goes back. We got to start taking accountability, son.
Starting point is 00:40:29 As far as well. We've got to be out in our communities. We got to be out there. Like, everybody on this shit where it's like, oh, I'm just, if it don't affect me and mine, I'm not, no, if they, like, you got to be on that shit. Yeah. You have to. You got to watch what's going on. If a drug dealer snitches on a sex trafficking ring.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Nothing. You're supposed to take care of a different way. Is that, no, I'm asking. If you don't talk to police, you should never talk to police. That's what I'm saying. So you just stay out of it. No, no, no, no. No, I don't say that.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I just say, if you talk to, if you don't talk to police, then don't talk to police, then don't talk to police. What if you're the drug dealer and, you know, this guy from the sex trafficking kidnap's your daughter or your sister? Yeah, I don't even, there's a movie called Taken. I will find you.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Like, there's a way to handle that. Like, if you don't want to do it, you got money, you can make somebody in, but you don't, if you don't talk to police, don't talk to police. What about if somebody steal your car? You're a drug dealer, somebody stole your car? You don't got OnStar?
Starting point is 00:41:28 What if you don't have OnStar? You got insurance. Then the car you... file a police report. No, the fuck you don't. Okay, car accident. No, you got to file a police report. Car accident.
Starting point is 00:41:37 You're a drug dealer. I know how you, I know you want to take it to the first. I don't talk. In my life, I've never talked to police. I don't believe you, Mouse. I don't even ask police for direction. If you get in a car accident and the cops come,
Starting point is 00:41:49 what are you going to do? Just you're going to be mute. My life is to spend it. So I'm going before they get there. They said Bobby coming home. Yeah, Bobby coming home? A real nigga. Bobby who?
Starting point is 00:41:58 Bobby who? December 11, 2020. Damn. It looks smart. really wanted to do a song with him. That was six-in-old thing. He did a song with him. Oh, he did,
Starting point is 00:42:05 yeah, over the phone. His whole thing was like he wanted to stay hot until Bobby came home. He said he was going to give it back to Bobby. No, he wants to stay hot until Bobby came home so he could send him back. Now, Bobby is, now, see, we talk about how we're going to get rid of six-nine.
Starting point is 00:42:17 How do you reward somebody like Bobby? Now, think about it. The coach, let's talk about the coach. All right, oh, snap snitching, no snitching. Bobby had the opportunity the motherfucker can say some things and get some time shaved off. Bobby was like, hell, no. And it took a bigger sentence
Starting point is 00:42:32 So Rowdy could come home So Riley would only get that word up That nigga deserves That's a real nigga That's a nigga who should be celebrated Yes Because you were in the life You stood tall
Starting point is 00:42:42 And let your nuts hang To make sure your man's was good Yes That you handled You checked off the whole list So how do you celebrate somebody like Bobby And she didn't have credit Based off the rules of the street
Starting point is 00:42:54 Yeah In the hood and the culture He should really like When he come home Like all of love He came home, it should be a parade. That's a fact. I'm trying to book his first show.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Like, when he come home, it should be, it should be a parade. Like, you need a nigga, he need, if you go to the 90s and Flatbush, it need to be a statue of him. He need to be mirrors of him. Yeah. Y'all need to make that block called smurred ass, nigga. He did the right thing. And all them G.
Starting point is 00:43:17 All them G. G.S. niggas is like that, though. That's a fact. All of them gs is like that. Not just the ones we see. All of them niggas is like that. Them niggers will ride for their own. Yeah. That's the community.
Starting point is 00:43:27 I remember being young. running around out there and hearing about them GS niggas. And them niggas are some real niggins. Those are some of my closest closest friends. That's a fat. And those are all real ones. I can't, there's nothing wrong. We got to stop seeing real niggas though.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Real ones. Yeah, to say real one. Why? I think, because real niggas has got like a negative connotation to it simply because it's not a lot of real niggas. Everything that people say is real, usually got something to do with criminal. When you say real niggas, it's usually got something to do with some criminal shit. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's not necessarily. It's not always true. Yeah, it's not always true. especially now that we got social media we got nuance you got motherfuckers like you like us like that's showing the full spectrum of what it is to be a man I call him mouse a real nigga because
Starting point is 00:44:08 the way he's a father like I put that makes him a real man yeah but why we don't have to I don't have a problem with using the word nigger unless you're white like if you a nigga you can say nigga and we could that's us that is the way we talk amongst us I use it but I'm not
Starting point is 00:44:24 gonna lie I just got such a low frequency it just feels it don't feel I'm not that It doesn't vibrate wealthy? It don't vibrate well. I'm not that rich. You got to explain that. Like when I say somebody's a real nigga, it feels like I'm kind of like bringing them down a little bit.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Like that's a real, you're a real man. All right, in the case of Bobby, you're a real stand-up guy. You know what I'm saying? That's a real stand-up move. Sure. I like that. Real niggas like, yeah. A lot of real niggas, once they got under pressure,
Starting point is 00:44:49 you realize they're not real at all. They just, they were just tough. They fucked their name of them. Like, you just because you tough don't mean you real. You just somebody, you just, you just, you just, you just, you just, you just, You just, you are in that. You're not brave either. You're just more inept to deal with the shit
Starting point is 00:45:04 than you're just more inept to do something than somebody else is. But you're going to tell if they catch you. You get what I'm saying? That's why that Kendra ball meant so much when I heard that shit. We don't know who's going to tell that they're under pressure.
Starting point is 00:45:16 You never know who's going to fold. Which is why I tell people all the time tax setting when he free tacks. Don't be taking pictures with these niggas, bro. I don't take pictures with a niggas that's not my friends. and even them niggas who is this nigga? I've asked this nigger
Starting point is 00:45:30 and I've asked this nigger before we took pictures yo who are these niggas? We was in Max Pardy in L.A., the brotherhood shit and it was a big picture like it was like eight of us and nine of us in a picture
Starting point is 00:45:41 I'm in this nigga it a whole time bro, who are these niggas? I'm like, I'm like bro. He's really doing like he's really got to do something. I said this is active
Starting point is 00:45:51 but I don't know but I don't know him. Everybody's dressed up. Mous you're the only one in here with a big nigga just by.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Because a white tee. I was a white tee and I was with my brother. With a big nigger and a white tea tucked in his pants just because he got, just in case some shit went left. I'm like, bro. I'm not going to be in LA, but I don't go. I don't go to that.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I don't go to that. They're probably looking at my mouth. Like, who is this? They're like, no, they was. I seen him looks when I walked in. It was a few niggies that were already in. I was like, I had Dale come up to me and was like, yo, why is, why is mouse like this, bro?
Starting point is 00:46:23 Why is he like this? Why does he have to be like this all the time? Oh, because when I sat at the table, when boy got up. You had to what? So, what you already know is, he brings, I won't say he brings enemies into my life. But he brings the energy where people look at me different because that's my name. You know what that's called? What?
Starting point is 00:46:44 Real nigger shit. That's what that is. That's what it is. But I didn't really notice it until the 30th time. You know, like when you start going to, when you start. When you start going places and people just start leaving and they get real quiet
Starting point is 00:46:59 they're real loud and they get there and they're real quiet and I'm still loud like yo why are you quiet now but I really understand he puts fear in some people's hearts Yeah man
Starting point is 00:47:07 Well I mean listen An honest opinion will do that And the only reason I didn't say it was the truth because that's really just what it is We all just give our honest opinion And I say that all the time Absolutely but I've stuck up from out so many times
Starting point is 00:47:19 It's like yo It's like you're like you're right of shit man How can you know look You can't be mad at somebody's opinion Listen, I'm like, this is an opinionated world, and if you get mad at somebody not liking this because you like it, then y'all should really have a problem. I'm not even going to, I'm not going to say no names, but I've definitely been approached by a celebrity and camps because of maps. Absolutely. Really?
Starting point is 00:47:39 I feel like, I honestly feel like. Oh, this voice. Oh, Charlie, you know, this voice travels. A job that I was supposed to get. Got shut down. I just asked you, Mac, if you're afraid to stand by. It wasn't matter. Ryan.
Starting point is 00:47:54 But look what happened to Ryan. That wasn't my fault. What am I going to say got shut down? I don't want to go into what the job was. Just say what it was. No, no, no. Because it's still there? Yeah, because it's just, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:04 But I had to weave out the bullshit because of him being an issue. But I had to bring it together. And also when he came to me, it's not like, it's not like I'm out of way of poking niggas in the head. I'm giving my opinion. And if you say something crazy, I have to go to the other side. They're like, oh, this is your man? Well, if this happens with your man, then we're going to have to take care of it. And I stepped in.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I said, well, if y'all have to step into it, that's my man, and I'm going to not, I'm not jumping on your side. Yeah, that's a fact. So what we're going to do? What I'm going to do is, I'm going to bring you out together. Y'all can have a conversation about it. And if y'all still have problems after that, that's beyond me. But when they talked about it, he understood that he's an opinionated person. And I don't have to like you for your opinion, but I got to respect you for not.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I can't hate you for what you said. So after that, it got, it got better. And it's better to this day. Yeah, yeah. But it's still slow, you know, it's slow. You know, I'll tell you this. It's, it's, uh, you are a jerk. I did, I like the show.
Starting point is 00:48:55 A nigga, I know you bought merch. You put it on a nigga than bought their merch? I didn't buy it. But yeah. So, so, so, no, back to your question, how do I feel about Mouse Jones potentially bringing down my,
Starting point is 00:49:09 my, uh, it's funny. Uh, having somebody so opinionated and, uh, I guess, low key, so feared, it doesn't,
Starting point is 00:49:17 it doesn't bring my brand down. I'm like that word. Honestly, it brings it up. Like, people are more on some like, if he doesn't like everybody and he likes you, what is it about you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:28 And also I think it humanized me out. Because if they don't like him, then they fuck with him. They fuck with him heavy. And it also humanizes somebody like Mac, right? Like where you're not seeing him or getting his opinion on certain shit or hearing him speaking of man on a regular basis.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Nigel might post his workouts on Instagram. You might see him here to take a picture with you. That's it. now you hear him every week on a podcast talking and not being filtered not having to be like oh I'm worried about that you feel what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:49:58 so it kind of humanizes that and then like I said I get what you're saying it's more of a connection I mean social media is that same type of connection but he don't be on there like that yeah and I see more artists doing podcasts now
Starting point is 00:50:10 and you know stop stop it too stop some of them are good though no they're not no you're not you're lying you probably get money with them no I was listening to TI Expedition this week I heard that was all right.
Starting point is 00:50:20 TI is the person who you would want a podcast from. But, like, everybody, like, niggas do a podcast. All right. We got a podcast right now. I don't know. I don't be listening. I'm going to pay some bills, and I want you to think about this. We're going to talk about niggas that don't need to be doing podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:52:08 Podcasts. Artists that don't need to be doing podcasts. Um, who got, I don't think... That's because there's some really good ones out there. Who got pop? Because most people... Because they do that shit when they shit not jumping.
Starting point is 00:52:20 No, that's not true. Most artists who have podcasts are artists that we already want to hear from and they already talk a lot anyway. So like, why not put a microphone in front of your face and get paid? Ti is a perfect example.
Starting point is 00:52:31 But Tia has somebody who's one podcast for. I give you that. But then there's other niggas who just not... Your shit just not jumping and now you want to just jump in a podcast. I feel like those haven't even hit our radar
Starting point is 00:52:40 right now. That's why we can't name them. That's true. Because all the ones that hit our radar are the ones that are actually good. Exactly. Doing their R-radar, but they still out there. Just because they out there don't mean nobody's listening.
Starting point is 00:52:51 If it's whack, people are going to tune in the first one or the second one. Or that they're fanbase will. And that, I'll never shit on nobody who's feeding a fan base. So if you have a fan base and you're just corny and your shit trash, but your fan base is eating it, all right, cool. I was talking about that earlier because I was talking about, like, being intrigued by certain people, like, you know, the six-nines of the world or even the people like, you know, Bunk Gang or like Candace Owens or like,
Starting point is 00:53:16 Diamond and Silk I don't know why you name Snoop Dog and these people I'm naming this Nile Taylor but Snoop got a podcast Yeah But it's just the um
Starting point is 00:53:25 That's been going on It's just the audio version of the GGM shit Yeah But I was talking about them Because I was saying I'm always intrigued Whether I agree with them
Starting point is 00:53:30 Or disagree with them I'm intrigued by people Who are able to build an audience Right absolutely Because we live in this area Where you got some of the most talented People that are dope as fuck But they can't build an audience
Starting point is 00:53:41 Sure And we all start with the same starting point You all start with that platform Of social media So why some people are able to connect and build these large audiences and some aren't? I feel like people that a lot of people don't like because they say negative things to people, grasp a lot of attention. And I feel like there's a lot of people that feel the same what they do, but they're scared to put it on a platform.
Starting point is 00:54:01 So if people don't really like you, because you say so many negative things, there's a lot of people that also think the way they think. But they're scared to put it on a platform and tell to everybody because they don't want everybody to hate them. Yeah, that's definitely one. I think a very, very big thing, especially right now, is niche, finding that niche. I think more than anything right now, niche is what is selling or what people are drawing to. Like, if you could find a small niche to try to fit, that is yours. I think everybody starts to crowd around something that feels that authentic and niche.
Starting point is 00:54:40 A lot of times people try to, people try to. people try to do the same thing over and over again. Like, yo, that's why there's a, what's the number now? Like, Chris, like, it's like two point something podcast going on right now. Two point, two point, two point, two point, seven million podcasts in the world right now. Like, that's why. And like, hold on, but it's like, 13% of them are original unique content and the rest of them are trying to be everybody else. That's how you find, that's how you find, that's how you find your way.
Starting point is 00:55:05 But if you look at it and it's not, you know, it's no, I love this team over here. So it's whatever. Like, that's why loudspeaker. works, right? Because you got Ewan Shultz who started this, this type of open form just creating conversation about whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:55:22 And then you got the Combat Jack show. Rest in peace, O.G. Reg. And you're getting in-depth, real Barbara Walterish interviews of these hip-pop people and it humanizes this experience that you've looked at one way. Now you're like, wait, that's what
Starting point is 00:55:38 was going on behind the scenes? That's why the read works. This is the fucking greatest podcast. as in the world. Like, that's why the read works. There's nothing else like it. So, so when you're doing that, and then the seeds are being planted taxis and keep a beaut. Like, then that seed is being planted friends on.
Starting point is 00:55:56 That's like a fucking whole ass therapy session on air. That's why that works. And that's why y'all have so much success because it's niche. Yeah. So somebody like, when you see Joe Button, Joe Button is niche to me too. because Joe Biden is like inside the NBA kind of right He's an artist
Starting point is 00:56:15 His shit was fast track though What do you mean? Joe was already doing the YouTube shit He was already giving you He had the audience Yeah he already had that audience That was bigger than just music Like at that time there was fans
Starting point is 00:56:29 That were just fans of his personality And then there was fans of the music So then he gives you the podcast And it's like I get to hear this nigga just talk About all of this shit that I won his opinion on didn't know I wanted his opinion on
Starting point is 00:56:41 for how many of how many of hours I don't care who's sitting next to him I'm with it so yeah like sound like that that's neat shit that works I think everybody should you shouldn't start a podcast unless you have
Starting point is 00:56:51 unless you have something that you really want to say that unless you have an audience yes even if it's 10,000 people that fuck with you or five thousand people that follow you whatever even if it's
Starting point is 00:57:01 even if it's 500 if you because that's where I started when we started when we started he man woman hate his club it was he man woman hate his club
Starting point is 00:57:08 That was the original. I remember. Yeah. So when we did that, I had like, what, 500, 600 followers on Twitter, but we was doing 500, 600 listens. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:18 So that was the audience and it was returning. And so it was like, this made sense even though it was small. Yeah. If you just sitting in your room and you have like, I don't know, I never went to college,
Starting point is 00:57:28 but you have one of those conversations, people like, you know, this should be a podcast. It probably shouldn't. No, probably shouldn't. First of all, nobody knows you, right? So at least you,
Starting point is 00:57:36 I follow 500 people follow you on Twitter. You tweet and your same. interesting shit. That's how I even got on the text because of his Twitter. Right. I'm like, his motherfucker is funny. He's witty.
Starting point is 00:57:46 He's smart. I just want to see if he could deliver that in real life. Right. And he could. So it's like if you are already giving people something they want via social media, why not turn it into a podcast?
Starting point is 00:57:59 You know what I mean? That's exactly how ours came about. What's the point? Really? Yeah. Because it was just enough of us talking shit. But it was like, all right, let's talk shit, but let's put it on a platform.
Starting point is 00:58:07 We all know we have friends that will listen, but I feel like we can reach people outside of just our friends. I'm be real with you. Our friends don't really listen to this shit. They really don't. They really don't. Like, we really have core fans that listen to it. Like, a lot of my friends will repost it, just repost it, then they'll repost the episode
Starting point is 00:58:24 where we said they name on it and some shit. It'll be something that they'll be like, oh, this. And then they'll ask me a question and I'll be like, you don't listen to the podcast. The only way to prove that your friends don't listen is to say some foul shit about one of your friends right now. And they come back. Yes. Nah, because it's going to get back to them.
Starting point is 00:58:37 It's one way or another. I'm gonna get back to, somebody will hear. Especially our fans, our fans, like, our fans are real similar to y'all. Like, they just be wilding on social media. Like, they are at people. Like, and you know, man, I don't mind stand next to nothing I say. But then, niggas, they hear something to be like, oh, he must have been talking about such and such. I'm like, who?
Starting point is 00:58:55 Jesus Christ. And the thing about our podcast is we talk about relationships a lot. So the most things we get, it's crazy. The most things we get is how can you make my relationship better and this and that? And it's like, yo, I'd be scared. How do y'all became relationship expert?
Starting point is 00:59:10 We don't know We did the gurus out of it. I got voice notes this morning From Paulus. I don't know Matt was in a relationship Yeah You were in a relationship
Starting point is 00:59:19 Ryan? No Mack I know you any of them A relationship A word You know, You know, The wild is shit up
Starting point is 00:59:24 You're not the wild You know, It depends on this nigga This is on set With my girl son This nigga This nigga
Starting point is 00:59:30 I thought Mousin with a white girl You know She's tech I'm like He's dragging I just seen the nigga Two weeks before
Starting point is 00:59:37 And Ty and everybody was like, oh no, this nigga trying to set me up for the weather. I said, it was wrong with him. Just like, yo, I'm like, real. That's why I didn't feel bad. Look, that's why I didn't feel bad that they forgot to talk about you in that clip.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Kyle, like, that's what the fuck is getting. What's clip? About this little Niles clip. They forgot that you was putting a hot fire. Listen, I'm glad they edited a lot of shit I was in. Oh, now you're glad. You was hot. You was hot.
Starting point is 00:59:59 But that also goes to the space of we, there's not a lot of black millennials that talk about relationship stuff. Yeah. Like, it's niggers that talk shit. But then we're very open, we're honest, we don't, and then we have like just a full spectrum conversation. Tell me, give me an example.
Starting point is 01:00:15 What's the last thing y'all talked about that got a conversation going on social media? My relationship. So there ain't none of y'all marriage. I don't know what the fuck y'all know. Oh, ooh, that's great. So the clip where, so there was two. So there's a clip where we did a purpose and we released, I asked the group, I said, um, would you be ready or would you be okay with having?
Starting point is 01:00:37 having a child with someone and not being with them. Off right. Like just being with somebody. I'm like, you know what? We can have a kid. Let's do it. Boom. Would you go into a relationship?
Starting point is 01:00:47 Knowing that you're going to be co-parenting. So Ryan answer went viral and my answer went viral. What was your answer, Brian? My answer was when I see myself in a relationship, I want to be able to live my life like me, have a total life by myself. I want my lady to have a total life by herself. Then we come together.
Starting point is 01:01:02 We have a life together before we have a child. And then we create life and have a whole other life for our child. So I don't, I don't see myself going into a relationship saying I can co-parent. I want to have my shit, let her have her shit. We come together. We travel to where we do our shit. And then we bring something into the world that we can do it all together. So what would your answer, Mel? I said, I could, I could, um, I would be fine with having, because right now in my life, I want a child. Like, I want another child. So I would be fine with having a child with somebody I trust. Like, I trust you enough to raise this child and all
Starting point is 01:01:34 it is. We don't need to be together right now. So would you be like a, you wouldn't be a sperm donor, right? No, because I would be in my child's life. Just not all the time. But we wouldn't. Because there's plenty of guys that do that shit. Once every two months. When chap karaoke's off the road.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Absolutely. I want to fight. Mack, what do you feel about that? I said personally, the person that I want to have a child with is the person that I want to have a child with is the person that I would be with. Like, I, I, I could, I could definitely see myself having a child with the person that I'm with. Like, but I, I wouldn't want, it's, it's never, I, I wouldn't be my first thought to co-parent. It would have to get to a place where I'm like, okay, this is the healthiest thing for us to co-parent.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Because I think the biggest thing that, uh, we have realized in, in our years is, uh, all, if, if there are 10 of us this room, there are probably half of us who have parents who probably don't fuck with each other, right? And probably half of that, the parents have stayed together to try to just keep a household together. And that shit is more detrimental
Starting point is 01:02:48 to anything. Exactly. So you start to realize that co-parenting isn't bad, but it wouldn't be my first choice. I'm not opposed to co-parenting, but it definitely wouldn't be my first choice. Yeah, I don't want to, I'm glad I don't got no baby mama. Slutha, you know, the women that have had abortions.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Relax. for me. No, I'm serious, because I would not want no baby mama's. I feel like... Go shot for y'all. Go shot for you.
Starting point is 01:03:08 My baby mother fired. I'll do that. But that's another thing. It comes from three aspects of it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He has two children, and he's not with his baby mother. He's with another woman.
Starting point is 01:03:18 He doesn't have any kids, but he's in a relationship. I have no kids, and I'm not in a relationship. So it's three different things. He can say he would co-parent because he's co-parented now. And that works for him in his life.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Not saying I can't, but that's not the first thing I'm going to do with my first, any child that I have. I just feel like with kids, you gotta micromanage them, yo. Like you gotta be on time
Starting point is 01:03:35 a little man. But how, every day. What I would say what I would say to challenge dad is sure if you're living an average nine to five life
Starting point is 01:03:42 in our life where we're traveling doing things. Essentially you'd be going that time anyway. Great point. But I'm gonna tell you something. You got to make the time. I was just, I literally was just having this conversation
Starting point is 01:03:52 yesterday with Angela Ryck because I was talking about, like my first daughter, my first daughter was born June of 2008. And I got fired from Wendy, November of, So it's like her, I didn't get another gig till like May of 2009.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I went through the same, I know exactly what she in her life. I was the one. My wife was going to work. I'm the one changing. So that's how I was with my youngest. Yes. My second daughter, who's four, I was in the midst of this breakfast club shit, wilding.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I was fucking everything. I was hoeing, you know what I'm saying? I mean, you know, I haven't cheated in three years. That's amazing. Excuse me all this. Yeah, what the fuck is that? That's, that's, that's old. Because it grows.
Starting point is 01:04:31 That's overcoming negativity. I applaud that. Thank you, I applaud that. Thank you, man. Don't make that queen try to bring you three years. What's something you stopped doing in the past three years? Yes. Not something you stopped doing in the past three years.
Starting point is 01:04:46 It's hard. Not fucking niggins from Philly. Exactly. State property. Taylor, you got to stop. So you fucking niggas for Reddy? Delaware. Delaware County.
Starting point is 01:04:58 That's from Jersey. All them will come to Philly. Okay, cool. That's feeling, nigga. It's hard to stop something that you've been doing for three years. Especially fucking other women. To stop fucking other women
Starting point is 01:05:10 all that one for three years. Three years. I applaud you. I got to applause you again. Thank you. We had dinner. We had dinner's robin on the breakfast club. He said, he was like, I've been sober full months.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Everybody like, oh. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's easy. He's not good pussy is. What? He drank the same yak. He drank the same yak for 20 years.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Yes. New pussy is. New pussy is. That is very true. Yeah, but he didn't, he didn't know You didn't know how deep. You think everybody gets married, understands the fucking. Yes, they should.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yes. You think, I think you're just responding because you didn't let me finish what I was saying. So I said, but listen, Do you think that people who are getting married, everybody, men and women alike, understand the weight of the mantle and agreement that you,
Starting point is 01:06:01 the union that you are entering it. Because there's nothing about you. I'm not to say. I just need you to answer the question before you react. You think. Taylor, come on. Get on the mic. This is what I'm saying that because you're in a relationship, right?
Starting point is 01:06:11 So how long you were in a relationship before you... She's got to get me tight. Before what? You could square out. Who, go ahead. Stay propped. So... Thanks for everybody from Philly.
Starting point is 01:06:20 They make a box. Anyways. So your in relationship for how long? 23 years now. Okay. No, not married. I'm married five. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Within that marriage, aren't you building up to being in a marriage? No. First two quarters at the basketball game, you're really not, you're head not really even getting. It's a shame. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Have you guys. Have we're having to do.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Half time. Coach come in. He said, here we got to get this shit together. That's right. That's right. You come into 30, coming to fourth. If you're going to OT, now you know. So, should you cheat on your girl?
Starting point is 01:06:52 Come on. No, black men don't cheat. Oh, okay. I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, oh, okay. Black men don't cheat. Hold on, listen, black men don't cheat. What are you saying?
Starting point is 01:06:59 Hold on, hold on, but, hold on, but, hold on, but, hold on, but I'm going to say this. If you believe that you go into marriage and, and understand everything and, and, and you automatically, your mindset is supposed to be on, this is all I'm doing for the rest of my life. Then you got to, then you got to, then you're a Tukashi. Then you're trying to ask you, uh, is cool snitching. That has nothing to do with it. No, I'm not saying. I'm bringing it all the way back around. He's saying that you don't have, you're, you're not seeing this thing in full totality.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Exactly. And you got. And everybody in this room's lifestyle is different than the average nigger from Philly. I'm saying in a relationship, then yes, I'm going to think that you're supposed to be loyal to me if I'm going to be loyal to you. But loyalty has nothing to do with monogamy. That's a whole. That's a whole. No, I'm going to have absolutely lived in monogamy. No, I disagree.
Starting point is 01:07:50 I disagree. And I'm going to tell you why I disagree. From the man side, loyalty has very little to do monogamy. I used to feel like that, but I'm going to tell you why I disagree. I disagree because when you. When you go to bed that night and you lay down with this woman that you spend in the rest of your life with that you're raising your kids with you're supposed to be loyal to her. Niggas is more loyal to their homies than a woman. You wouldn't do your nigger dirty?
Starting point is 01:08:09 I 100% agree with what you're saying. But I don't think that has to do. I don't think that encompasses what I said. I think that's being disloyal. I don't. I don't. I agree. You know why?
Starting point is 01:08:18 Because once I enter into an agreement with you, if I came into this and you tell me this is, you're saying I don't deal with cheating. Boom. Then okay. I would be being disloyal and I would be bigger than that me personally felt I would be disrespecting you. You think it's disloyal if your girl sucked another man's dick.
Starting point is 01:08:36 I said from a man's side. No, no. Listen, don't understanders exist. They do. But you got to look at it that way. You would look at her like she was being disloyal. That's a whole other dick. So she got to look at you.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Exactly. That's a whole other pussy. You can wipe that off. You can wipe that off. Yo, you leak dead ass after next. By the way, that's why guys ask questions. Oh, guys would be like, did you suck his dick? Did he fuck wrong?
Starting point is 01:08:57 No, we ask questions because we're massacid. Like, we love pain. Yes. I mean, that too. Finish me off. But you want to know. You want to know how this loyal was she? I cheated.
Starting point is 01:09:06 You cheated? What did you do? Did you suck his dick? Yes. Look, here go crazy part. Here's crazy part. What? Oh, I've definitely used all.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Oh, no. Just toss me off the fucking bridge. Yeah, but when she tell you that it was bigger than yours, Lord. First of all, that's how you know you're supposed to leave. Nah. Because she didn't care about your feelings. She didn't care about your feelings. She didn't lie to me.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Nope. Nope. You're going to be here with this average-sized dick for the rest of your life now. So now you're going to punish her? Oh, wow. Wow. Well, you liked it.
Starting point is 01:09:33 That's the last time you're going to get it. That's the last time you're going to see a big dick ever. That's the last time. It's all you're going to get. See this average thing. This is what you got. You better come get your six. You back up.
Starting point is 01:09:43 You're back up. Go seven and three-fourth. But who's counting? You know. But no, I feel like that's being disloyal, man. You can't. I don't like being disloyal to nobody. If you have to lie, if you have to lie, you're being a,
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yes, I'll give you that. If you have to lie, you're being disloyal. But then you talk about pain, you keep telling her the truth, thinking she could just take this pain and she's like, oh, fuck, you got to be. He cheated on me, but at least he told me the truth. No, you're hurting that girl. Well, you got to leave. Another conversation that went viral, I forgot where we was on the way back from.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Curlfest or something like that? I forget what it was, but I happen to be listening to Earl Fest. Curlfest. Oh, that's what you was doing, the Sunside Angeles today? Hey, yeah. Okay, okay. Shout to the Redfish. Shout to those ladies.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Oh, my gosh. That shit is very black. I love it. Yeah, super black. It was beautiful. If heaven looked like that, kill me now. Take me now.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Take me now. Oh, yeah. Y'all definitely cheating using lines like that. That's what kind of lying. I don't got a girl. I don't got a girl. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:10:39 And this nigga, in this nigga Ryan had three buttons open. Three buttons open. This nigga Ryan was out there with three buttons open. This nigga Ryan had three buttons open. Saw that niggins was getting more attention. And he said, nah, bucked that. He took a turn up.
Starting point is 01:10:51 He took a button on the next one. Yo, he's different. Ryan is different in person. So, when we be out. Don't let two or three people recognize me and Mac And don't say nothing to rhyme He's taking shirts off Damn
Starting point is 01:11:01 He's wilding So you be wilding at Paloosa's right? I don't go Oh I don't go I gotta see That's a thing If he brings a problem in my life
Starting point is 01:11:11 I gotta just you know Go with it Is it y'all been from all Paloosa Oh no no no Nobody said we banned Okay okay okay okay okay I just choose you know I choose to pick and choose my battles
Starting point is 01:11:19 I feel you I mean if you want to go go No of course But you said you said you like That's what happened And we was coming back from there And I had texted, because we always keep conversation in the chat. So I forgot, I think I was listening to Beyonce, me, myself, and I.
Starting point is 01:11:33 And remember, and she said, even my very best friend tried to warn me on her love. And I was like, I listened back to her. I'm like, well, he didn't try and bad. He just tried to warn her on a lot, like, let you know, like, hey, this niggas is fucked up. So we start talking about that on the podcast. And that conversation went viral because I'm like, is there any opportunity, is there any moment where you would step in and be like, yo? You wilder, son
Starting point is 01:11:58 This girl can't handle this Like a pair falling out She's getting skinned Like you're visually seeing this woman Being affected by this I'm like I might step in Like there's a chance I was stepping And be like yo Shuddy should leave
Starting point is 01:12:10 He was stepping until Shottie She should leave his means I said I could not do that Unless it was to a physical level Where there was physical abuse going by I can't step in because I don't I just want to stay out of We all agree across the board
Starting point is 01:12:25 Like physicality But if it's just, if it's what he's, if he's cheating and you keep taking it, I can't step in to that effort. I don't have nothing to do that. You know what? I'm not going to step in on nothing that I know I could probably do. That's why women call us halfway. That's why they call us fuck niggas that think we think we good or what they call us, uh, mediocre, mediocre good niggins. It's not.
Starting point is 01:12:45 If you tell me a man who's cheating. Only if you're cheating. No. If you're cheating, if you're not. If you're cheating and you're telling a nigger cheating, you're a snitching. I don't know you. But I'm like, I see you in a man. I've seen you with your girl and I see with another woman.
Starting point is 01:12:58 If I tell on you, I am a rash. Absolutely. Now, what if y'all are in close? Like, this is, if this is your man's girl, so you are in constant contact with it, this is sis. Yo, sis, what's up, sis? Like, proximity, you hear. And you watch her, the same person that you've developed a relationship with. Because everybody, I hear people always talk about, oh, I keep my distance.
Starting point is 01:13:17 It's impossible that if this is your best friend, this is their counterpart, this is who they're dating for three, four, five years. You're going to develop a relationship. with them. So now you're going to sit here and tell me you're a good nigga. Don't get that close to my lady then. It's impossible. It's what you got to tell. I wouldn't even, it's not even about taking it to her. I'm going to tell my man every day. No, I'm about to say. You got a good woman. You're fucking up.
Starting point is 01:13:38 But we said, like I said, I'm not jumping out the window and doing it. That's crazy. You can't say that too much easier because I'm going to like, what you want to fuck her? If I'm telling her to leave you? And my thing is, wouldn't she go back to me and tell me, yo, your man said I should leave you. Now me and you got a problem. And I'd be fine with that. I would be fine.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Because at the end of the day, it would take so much to get me to that point. So you're saying it's okay for niggas to tell you a girl if you're cheating about. No, I didn't say that. Who are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:14:01 Who's what I got in this conversation? I'm saying, if you were. And we know you're not because black men don't cheat. But that's a fact. But it was possible if you were. If I was whiling her shit up to the point where it's affecting
Starting point is 01:14:10 her daily life. Yes. I think even if she already knows, I'm not just saying, like women be knowing niggas cheat and still be with them. If I'm wilding her shit out, I'm talking to her crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I'm treating her bad. I'm not providing. I'm not doing my job as a man. And it's affecting her life to where it's now affecting her physical hair. We see it. You've all seen me. You'd be cool with me going to your lady like,
Starting point is 01:14:30 yo. If I'm doing all that, I understand. You still be cool with me? You're my man. You help me accountable. I don't think you should take it to her. You take it to him.
Starting point is 01:14:37 But if I'm constantly taking it to you. I'm only checking you because you're my guy. But you even just said it. You can't even say that to a nigger too much time because now he's going to be like, you're trying to fuck my girl. Well, okay, well, keep her out of it and just be like, bro, you're wilding with your woman, yo.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Now, how many times you're going to do that? You can't be doing that. She's going to end up in jail. You keep hitting on this girl. No, no, we're not talking about that. We all said that if it's physical, we all stepping in physically. Well, mental abuse is just bad.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Emotional abuse is just bad. But this is what I'm saying. So we got, if you are watching this shit, you got to say some. I'm going to say something. It's imperative. I can do that because I feel like, Ryan, you go to your girl.
Starting point is 01:15:14 The only way I'd be like, you, I'm telling you a girl. I got to tell you I'm telling you girl I'm gonna tell you If you don't cut this shit out I'm telling you girl And then what
Starting point is 01:15:24 I'm gonna tell you girl I'm gonna tell you girl And then when you're gonna mad at me I told you I was telling you So there is an opportunity for you to tell you But I'm never telling you to tell my girl No point
Starting point is 01:15:34 Is it? Yeah But all right So say Charlemagne You post those threats So you're pulling them up in your phone Put the message The screenshot
Starting point is 01:15:42 So Charlemaine says it So Charlemagne says it to him He says yo I'm gonna tell you girl A nigga black I'm gonna do better. Nick, don't do no better. Nick, keep fucking the shit. I'm gonna tell you girl.
Starting point is 01:15:50 All right. So this goes back to what I say. There is an opportunity. There is a level you will get to. But in my mind, if you, my men's, then I would just have to step away
Starting point is 01:15:57 from me being around you and your lady and all that. Like, I just have to push that away. I can't be as close to you as a friend. We can't say, we can't say that we care about black women. We can't say that we love black men.
Starting point is 01:16:09 We can't say that we will defend and die over black women and then watch them be done. Fucked up and not step in. But when it comes to the community of being a black man, we got to police each other. Sure. So it's just like, you know, in order for us to be better men for our women,
Starting point is 01:16:21 I got to check you. Ryan got to check me. We got to check each other. But if I'm checking you, and this is a woman, mind you, this ain't somebody that's all, this is not me and Paige, where she's all the way over there. Page, not allowed to talk to me, but not page all the way over there.
Starting point is 01:16:34 It's, you right here, you're in my circumference. I see this girl every couple days. This might be my kids God mother. I might be your kids, God parent. I'm only telling her is if I tell you first. All right. So which means Charlemaine agrees. with me that is a level, there is a point he'll get to.
Starting point is 01:16:49 It ain't going to be about no cheating, though. It's not about cheating. Get cheating out your mind. It's not just to cheat. In fact, it's just if you are whiling this girl up in your, I don't know how you had that comfort of it. But I'm thinking, like, if I tell you a girl, I'm like, why you keep letting him treat you like this?
Starting point is 01:17:03 To my mind, she sounds like a brother. You sound like a Joe record. You sound like a Joe record. You sound like her brother. She's known for five to six years. I know, I know. My thing is, if you go to her and you say, oh this, and she's like, you know what, you write.
Starting point is 01:17:15 But then it still winds up. I'm going to go get my brother to fuck him up. Whoa. I'm going to fuck your brother. But now, but let's say he go further than fuck you up. And it gets super violent. And something happens to you. Now it's on my conscience.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Like, damn, my man is half dead in the emergency room because I went to his girl and she finally took the balls. And now she hurt him. So who was in the wrong now? Him, the nigga that started at all. If we're taking accountability, right, we being accountable, no? Are we being accountable in this moment or are we head of troll? It's definitely the man's fault. It's the nigger who initiated.
Starting point is 01:17:47 All you had to do was stop fucking up or fucking leave. Stop being pussy and staying in a relationship that you don't want to be in. I can stay out that relationship's business and back the fuck up. But they brought you into it. This is what I keep saying. This is not something you're interested in. So I don't let my friends get too close to those. I ain't doing that.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Yeah, I don't see no reason for my homies to be close with my girl anyway. I mean, it's love. You know what I'm saying. It's family. Like we cool. But yeah. But I'm not, you know, bro, sis when I see you. But other than that, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Yeah. I agree with that too. You my men I hear that I hear it And in the other situation We said Unless I knew her
Starting point is 01:18:19 Before I knew you Well that's completely different And I'm gonna tell you Another reason You don't ever want to make it So she feels comfortable Enough to call you To be like
Starting point is 01:18:25 So yeah Where was y'all at last night Are yo such as Is he with you I'm gonna be tight? You're gonna be tight You're alright Nah
Starting point is 01:18:33 You got you off my phone Mous not here ride You know what he at What? I don't know Nothing One time My little
Starting point is 01:18:39 Cause you know He used to run around Me in the city And shit When I used to be in the Cubs and stuff And one Saturday He said he said
Starting point is 01:18:44 Yo, um, what's... Oh, I mean to say, delete his name. Was he with you last night? Now you want to delete people. And I was like, and I was like, no. Because you know why? Because he ain't give me a heads up. So I didn't know what the fuck was going on.
Starting point is 01:18:58 This is what I'd be saying. And this is why women cheat better than niggers. This is why women cheat better than niggers. Because a Nick, if a girl hears that, she already know. If a girl, if Taylor called page right now or if somebody call page right now and be like, yo, if
Starting point is 01:19:15 unnamed Philly nigger called Paige you're like If Beans Oskino Oskino Oskino
Starting point is 01:19:25 She would definitely Like, No, she's probably like Sim Santana Dream Chase Dream Chase is more her era No, she's at Cassidy Kathy was way older than you
Starting point is 01:19:32 And it Okay All right Okay He did this on with All Kelly Asking a little young girls with Philly to come to the hotel Hotel
Starting point is 01:19:39 Was you one of them? Was you one of them? And Paige was like What hotel? Just let me know which one. Is it the A loft? Exactly. Not back then it was the Ramada.
Starting point is 01:19:48 But you got to give you people's a heads up. Right. And that's what, like I said, if unnamed Philly nigger call page right now is like, hey, I ain't seen my little John. You seen her. You seen it. And Paige is going to automatically know, oh. She's up to something. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Actually, she's out of spin class. She's with Charlemagne right now working. Her phone's dead. She's going to know. You do that same shit to one of us. out the blue If you If we
Starting point is 01:20:17 That's the trade part We will know How to not talk To police Most of us But then A girl will get us To give the goods up
Starting point is 01:20:25 On our nash Where's Mac right now Sam Taylor is when Charlamine That can fuck you up too But you got A lot of insecure niggas A lot of insecure niggas
Starting point is 01:20:35 You can't be working that much Yeah Well you gotta get rid of them niggas I say it all the time You got a nigger That is upset with you because you work with a lot of different guys You got clippin.
Starting point is 01:20:47 It's a problem with it. It's a problem with it. It's a problem with, he'll never be happy for you. That's the fact. He'll never, he'll never be sure. And that's the biggest thing. That's the biggest thing. He won't even be able to celebrate you
Starting point is 01:20:57 your accomplishment because he's so worried about how it affects him as a man. Especially because he probably met you doing that same job. Exactly. So why is it a problem now? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because that is a more broader. That, what you said, in that instance, sure.
Starting point is 01:21:12 But what you're addressing is a broader. broader sense. You can move up. Because women do be changing. Like, women are beat. When you meet her, I'm about my money. I ain't got time for the niggas. And then she started liking you.
Starting point is 01:21:23 She ain't got no job. You don't got no job. You really. No, no, that's fine. But how do you got so much time? Like, I thought you was on your grind. You got 13, you had 13 jobs when I met you. How do you have so much time to hang with me now?
Starting point is 01:21:34 Because niggas stop fucking with you because you with that dude all the time. Because sometimes girls get caught up with the guy that they involved with. And they start slacking. and they're motherfucking job. And it's like, all right, well, go over that. And the reason they start slacking is because that nigger's in the ear like, you always with that nigga,
Starting point is 01:21:50 what you and that nigga got going on, X, Y, and Z. People start to feel that energy. They're like, all right, you stay over there. You stay over there. I want the best of you. Taylor been in that situation? A nigga was hating.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Come here. Go ahead. Cous of me. What happens? Right there. Oh, Taylor, Rick. She's about to do some hell adflats. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Yeah, who gave all mic? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Why y'all fight me? Wow. Wow. What happened with the niggins? So I was dating a Haitian.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Talk posse. My boo. Loving that on surstasy. That's one check. Oh, you got on certain side. Yo. And I met him like at like a bar or something like that. He's not in the industry and I find that.
Starting point is 01:22:28 He got upset. I'm sort of short. He was just a hangout. We didn't hang out. And that's when you invited me to go to like Tiffany. So I told him like, oh, it's cool. No, dad. Like, I'm going to go with Charlemagne.
Starting point is 01:22:41 His friends like to see Tiffany had it. The next day he was like, I feel like you just pushed me under the rug. So, like, why are you in, like, show him and always, like, hanging out? Like, really got upset. You should have just played black men don't cheat. But he was definitely
Starting point is 01:22:56 insecure. Like, really. As if my wife ain't right there. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to cut niggas like that. You got to clip. You got to clip it. The way he did not clip his uncircumcised
Starting point is 01:23:07 hate his penis. The way he's got to cut motherfuckers like that. Jesus Christ. Let's put a buck. I know what we was talking about earlier. We were talking about the kids and micromanaging the kids, right? When my four-year-old, I wasn't, like,
Starting point is 01:23:17 I wasn't, like, involved the first year, so, like, I should have been. Right. Third daughter, I'm all in. Yeah. So I'm saying, all that to say, you have to make time. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Even when you're busy and you want to go, a hundred miles power, you got to make time. I'm about to take my oldest daughter on the road with me. See what I'm saying? Yeah, like, you have to. You have to. Yeah. If you don't do that,
Starting point is 01:23:36 it don't matter whether you co-parenting or in the house. You just have to make time. That's a fact. I just think it's harder to make time when you co-parents. If you're traveling and our lifestyle is the same. Yeah. It might be easier because then you don't have to, it might be easy because now when you come,
Starting point is 01:23:51 when you're back in town, you can just focus on parenting instead of parenting and fostering a relationship. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Like when you, if you're, and I'm not anti-relations. Obviously.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Explain the difference between parenting, parenting and fostering a relationship. So if you're together with the person, right? Let's say it's somebody like the four of us. We're all, we're on the road, we're out. So when we come home, we have to be a parent, but we also have to be a boyfriend or a husband. If you're just co-parenting, when I come home,
Starting point is 01:24:16 I just have to be a father. Got you. You get what I'm saying? Okay. And I'm not anti-relation. I'm not, I'm in one. Like, I want to have kids. I'm just saying I'm not opposed to the idea now
Starting point is 01:24:26 because it's like, well, it would fit my lifestyle better. And I feel like I would be able to focus more. That makes sense. Just pay some bills. I'm getting in trouble for that. You are. It's fine. It's fine.
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Starting point is 01:25:40 you got Boost Mobile phones. I'm serious. Nah, that's how they was getting all the drug dealers. The booze, right? Yeah, when nigs had the chirp. Well? Ah, I missed the chirp. I don't.
Starting point is 01:25:49 You don't miss the chirp? No, it was bad times. It was cool, though. It was cool. It was cool. It just seemed cool. It was cool. But then that's how niggas was getting caught up.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Niggas is just typing in whatever numbers, chirping, whoever. Yeah. It was the chirp hotline. Like, it was crazy out there. It looked like FBI agents walking around with them walkie-talkies. And the phone's, all the first ones, look just like police phones. Just like
Starting point is 01:26:14 just like, no, I'm out of here, son. And then you remember if I don't know, I don't think he was in New York at the time. Like, they used to always have them or the train police or the TSA police
Starting point is 01:26:25 were having shit. Or the MTA police. They'd have the boost. So, nigger have that Jason Seahorn jersey and waiting by the, waiting by the ticket, the turnstile. You already know.
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Starting point is 01:26:49 Visit boostmobile.com are your nearest retailer for details. Now, this is the part of the show because Taylor thinks that we don't use her topics. Oh, brother. Oh, man. We try to run through. State topic. Does the fucking check clear? Yeah, we try to run through her topics.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Does it check fucking clear, Taylor? We already did Takashi. Who? interracial dating based off Jenny Mai Jenny Mai says that in a relationship because she's Asian She's dating young Jeezy So she says she has to get to know her
Starting point is 01:27:18 His culture He said I think that when you look at the word interracial You should really look at it as interresponsible It is a responsibility When you date outside of your race To learn about that culture Because not everybody's experience is the same She went on to further elaborate
Starting point is 01:27:33 When he steps into my house He takes off his shoes He knows how Vietnamese people do it I don't know why she thinks That's only a Vietnamese thing. Yeah, he's been doing that since he was black. She said when I met him, I was like, I want to go to Hawkinsville. Show me exactly this yellow house that you grew up in.
Starting point is 01:27:45 And how did you start your business and how did you understand how to make a dollar? How do we feel about this, guys? I think she's retarded. I've never dated another white race. Mack, I know you've dated some white women in your day. Huh? I've never dated a white woman. Come on, you was on Beverly Hills 902.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Which is hilarious. I've never dated a white woman. Really? I've never been in a, in a relationship with a white woman. I've had sex with white women. Me too. I've never. I've had sex with Spanish.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Spanish women, Mexican women, white women? I said, unfortunately. Haitian women. But I'm, same, same. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I haven't been in a relationship with a white woman, so I don't, I, I wouldn't know. Ryan? I've never been in a relationship with a white woman.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Really? No. I love y'all. Mouth. Never. Contrary to popular belief. Niggas, contrary to your belief. Yo, this way, yeah, you know this way it all started, right?
Starting point is 01:28:32 I, I believe it. He fucked it up. Nick, we would have been good. This nigga said the name on air. and he didn't do what he did the last five minutes ago take their name out. Nika left the name in,
Starting point is 01:28:41 left the Instagram in a nigga I got to the crib, shit is going left. I said, what is happening here? Listen, I'm the same way. I've never dated a white woman. I've been in relationships with white women.
Starting point is 01:28:52 I've been in relationships with women from the Latino side. So the thing is with me, it's like when you black, they gravitate towards our culture more than anything. They don't want to be in the blackness and hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:29:04 It's not like they really... I've seen it go both ways. Really? I've seen it go to opposite. I guess it depends how serious you are. If you're in a relationship with somebody from another side, I can see that. Look at RG3. Well, he's different.
Starting point is 01:29:14 He's married, though. I feel like that's different. I feel like it's all depends on where you were raised, how you were raised, and who you were raised by. So I think RG3 came from a white community. I feel like he went to school. I believe so. I believe he went to school with all white people. I mean, not to say I've had my shit here.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Like, I went to all-white college. Right. But I knew. what I wanted because of where I came from and I didn't believe in that's what I... He was destined to throw a pass to a white woman. Absolutely, absolutely. This was it...
Starting point is 01:29:45 He first started with the white woman. Going to the league, he had a white girlfriend. College, white girlfriend. High school white girlfriend. That's a different... Zion, they all have white girls. They grew up. He's not a white girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Yeah. What? He's lying from the Stix of South Carolina. So you should have known he was going to get a white woman. No, I'm from the sticks of South Carolina. But you got to also... You got to also watch... He was a Duke.
Starting point is 01:30:05 But you also got to watch his basketball games and who would... was at his school. The whole crowd was, he's the only black player on the whole white team. He wasn't like a whole white team. The crowd is going crazy. He would have been probably a way bigger player.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Well, he might not as being as big if he went to an all black school. Yeah, if he would have went to HBCU. There would have been other black players. If he would have went to HBCU, obviously, he's not coming out in the first.
Starting point is 01:30:26 I'm talking about his high school. If you look at his high school, if you look at his high school, it's all white kids in the crowd. Oh, that's a fact. He would have got lost. He would have got lost. And there would have been other black people on his team.
Starting point is 01:30:33 It was just him. I want to tell all you young athletes with white girlfriends, leave them. Look at their moms. That's how they're going to look in five years. They're not going to age well. I'm telling you. Y'all worried about that.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Look how OJ. You're going down. I'm thinking, I'm going down. I'm thinking how they're going to age. They don't age well. Come on, man. How are you going to look at Angela Bassett and then look at freaking the Olson twins?
Starting point is 01:30:54 Exactly. My God. They are 30. Olson twins is 30. They look 68. And don't think we're being racist. This is just science. White people age terribly.
Starting point is 01:31:03 We can't be racist. That is true. I tried to tell Molly Science Manager that this weekend. We can't be racist? We can't be racist. Racism in today involves power structure. I was actually about the... Exactly.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Who can we impose our racism upon that? It would negatively affect them. I'm about to say, I... We can't even cancel a motherfucking black artist because of white people. So how do fuck are we gonna be racist against somebody? Molly Cyrus Manager called me racist this weekend. We were at the IHard Festival.
Starting point is 01:31:28 And... I would have said thank you. Molly, what happened was Molly came down the hall. when we walked in, her security was like, clear the hall, clear the hall. Nobody can get through. Nobody can get through. Molly Cyrus, whatever. So all the white people at IHaw was like upset.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Like, yeah, it was like, I'm not going to say all, but a good portion of them was like, who does she think she is, blah, blah, blah. So when we started the live pre-show, I'm like, yeah, Molly Cyrus just came down the hall, cleared everybody out. I'm like, I don't know who she thinks she is. She's not a presidential candidate. You know, she's not a diplomat. Right.
Starting point is 01:31:55 This is the I-Haw festival. Some of the biggest stars in the world have been here. Nobody tripping off you. Just you. Here you are. Exactly. And then Angelie asked me who I'm looking forward to seeing And I was like, I'm looking forward to seeing all the black artists
Starting point is 01:32:06 I want to see Chance to rapist. I want to see her I said Molly Cyrus used to be black until it stopped being profitable for her And so all of Molly Points to remain Exactly All the Molly social media following started going crazy And then about three, four minutes later I looked at my right
Starting point is 01:32:21 And I see this white guy standing there, right? He's just standing there and you know I shake everybody's hand when you around me Of course I go to shake this dude hand, the dude looks me up and down and goes Nah, I don't fuck with you Mind you, he's a white guy. I like that energy.
Starting point is 01:32:35 I would have. It would have been over from mouth. That energy. That energy. I would have popped. I don't fuck with you. I said, who the fuck of you? Because I'm my size manager.
Starting point is 01:32:46 So I'm like, so you got a fucking problem? He's like, yeah, I don't like you saying X, Y, and D. There would have been so many suck my dicks flying. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Frank Stan. Frank St. Franks and Nby said I said that, but I don't believe I said that.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Oh, you shut it. What I remember saying that. You shut it. You shut it. I think it would suck my dick. energy, but I don't think that came out my mouth. I don't think anybody's ever, like, you know. What I said was, get your white ass away from me.
Starting point is 01:33:08 I did say that, and that's when he goes, oh, you're a racist and everybody knows your ass is white. You're a white person. Exactly. You're white and you got an ass. Get your white ass away from me. And then I tell him I was slap the shit out of you. That's not racist.
Starting point is 01:33:18 That's what I said. That's equal. Equal opportunity. That's equal opportunity. Absolutely. Because if you would tell a black man in a minute, you'll slap shit at him if you violate. So why would you not tell a white man?
Starting point is 01:33:27 That's the opposite of racist if you asked me. It's equal opportunity. Absolutely. Absolutely, absolutely. Everybody. This is what I've been trying to say for the past five years, but I always want to shut me up. You are a racist, though.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Okay. And, long story, sure, he did apologize. As he should. He was like, yo, my bad, whatever. I didn't mean to not shake your hand, yada, yada, yada. I didn't mean to not shake my hand. But suck my dick. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:33:46 The frank stand would have been open for a week straight. Every time I see Miley Cyrus, I would have been like, suck my dick. Huh? Oh, he apologized because two higher ups from I heart came over who happened to be white. So I think in his mind, he was like, oh, I got his mask. Now. And when they came over, exactly.
Starting point is 01:34:04 When they came over, I go, yeah, that's Molly Seid's manager. He's a fucking dickhead. And it's just like, all his energy was just gone. What? No. Me? I don't know where you were I don't know why he would say that. That's preposterous. I don't know where Charlotte may able to get that. I love the breakfast club.
Starting point is 01:34:20 His name is Adam too, by the way. Fuck Adam. Fuck Adam. I don't have a problem with him. I don't need either, but fuck Adam. I just don't like him. I don't like him because of that. The first impressions are a motherfucker. really don't take much for me to say fuck him off fucking yeah you don't like him me neither fuck him
Starting point is 01:34:35 I'm just loyal to my people yeah I swear to God I swear to God that's mouse I could literally be on something like yeah this this nigga yeah I don't know no no because you don't rub me no fuck that no bro I be too nice yeah this nigga be too nice you man but but that's the greatest thing about it is it's like they'll look at Mac and mouse Mac would be so nice and so calm
Starting point is 01:34:55 they can do so not saying they'll do so wrong he'll be so nice because I've seen him turn up but in front of a camera it's a He's not. But then it'll be him on one side and me on the other. And I'd be like, no, no, no. Say what you got to say? He's not going to say.
Starting point is 01:35:08 What the fuck did you say? He's not going to get Mac in a fight for no goddamn right now. No, no. We would never let Mack fight. We got it. By himself. I got it. Never fight by himself.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a fact. I just don't think white men. Yeah, I'm not a weed holder. I make my own money. You have to throw a punch as well, buddy. I mean, Mouse told me he was the Beyonce at this whole situation.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Listen. Michelle. If this comes... If we're talking about podcasting, Miles Jones is Beyonce. If we're speaking about culture, we don't even how to speak about it. We're talking about culture.
Starting point is 01:35:42 You hush, Michelle. Uh-huh. All right. You relax. You're only three of us. I can stay Kelly all day. You can be Kelly all day. There's only three of us.
Starting point is 01:36:01 No, no, no. Definitely not. Definitely not. When you say culture, what do you mean? She doesn't have a shit. I'm in no fashion. Am I. No, no, no, no, fuck at it.
Starting point is 01:36:09 You know why I can't be shot? Because there's no way I'm not going to that big drop off. I'm not going from Biazza here. You turn to be Michelle. Some people can show. Dope, dope. She married a white man. She divorced them too.
Starting point is 01:36:19 But she married. No, she didn't get married. They were together and they broke up. I'm going to tell you why I'm like Michelle. Even fucking worse. Michelle kills in the gospel world. Yep. And she's a huge mental health advocate.
Starting point is 01:36:28 And she's a huge mental health advocate. There you go. You dated a white man. It happens. And she divorced. Boston. Michelle is Michelle Michelle owns
Starting point is 01:36:37 a fucking WNBABA team, bro. Michelle popping. Charlaman can owe the whole league. WMBA popping, man. But I think the WMA be super popping. Listen, hear me out. Y'all, WMBA would be amazing if they lower the rim to nine feet.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Nah, lower the rim to nine feet. Throw the rim down. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You all want to stop what Ryan said. It would be so much. Right, wait, wait, wait, wait. I want to address what you said. I want to address what you say.
Starting point is 01:37:05 You're right, Shalami. Yes. If you allow, if they allow transgender, if they allow trans women, if they allow trans women to play in their WNBA, no.
Starting point is 01:37:14 It's going to be unfair, no, because if Braun said, oh, I'm going to be transgendering. He's going, he's going 90 in, in fucking three minutes.
Starting point is 01:37:21 It's not. But guess what? Who cares? Guess what? A winner is a win. Yes, I have. He was killing. A winner is a win.
Starting point is 01:37:27 But guess what happens then? They go from making minimum wage to now everybody's making, everybody's making a same. But, No, but if you lower the rim to nine feet, it's getting crazy. They're not down on nine. Let's combine them.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Let's combine them. Let combine them. Lower the room to nine feet. Answer it. Let transgender women play the whole stock of the league. Have you ever seen NBA Jam? Yes. That's what it will be like.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Yes. No. These Jones would be over the rim like this. From downtown. That's all we would care about. You remember slam bowl? Yes. That's what is.
Starting point is 01:37:56 That's what is. All right. You know what? You got one of the other. You got it. Yes. Okay. You got one of the.
Starting point is 01:38:02 You can't do both. By the way, no, this is a real WNBA marketing plan. Y'all got to start being more inclusive. Trans women need to be included. The same way they're talking about they want to be included in Black Girls Rock. Include trans women in the WNBA, lower than women to nine feet, Scott arrives like a motherfucker. Are you crazy?
Starting point is 01:38:19 Michelle is a billion. That's a fact. Michelle will be a billionaire. Listen. Yes. Billion. Y'all, you tell me you're not watching it then? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:38:27 You can't lower it to nine feet and allow trans women. I don't see why not. And by the way, I'm going to take them out. You know, let's do it to nine feet. Let me take them else. We sleep on them WMBA women when it comes to their skill set. They're nice. They can ball,
Starting point is 01:38:39 they can't. I don't think that them trans women are going to go out there and just dominate. Against other women. No, they're still going to be nice. They're nice against other women. One trans woman per team. No, see, now you're wild. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Now, you can't put a cap one. What is that? What is the human? No, no. Overse human. No, no. Overseas. No, overseas.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Does it? No, overseas does it. I'm saying all you need is one. Overseas does it. When it comes to Americans on a team, they give you a, you only can have one or two players. It depends on your league. But that's an American. No.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Not a fucking whole agenda. But as a recent, Americans have dominated. You're going to sign a contract that says, I am the trans-capped. No, nigga, like, that's what's going to be called. It's going to be called the trans-cap. I'm about to start this campaign, bro. No, don't do that. We're not trans-loid in W-B.
Starting point is 01:39:23 I agree, but not saying it's just one per team. That's crazy. Start it off. You got to start somewhere. Yes. You're with you, bro. You're sick. You're sick.
Starting point is 01:39:30 I'm with you. Lower the room to nine feet. Trans women. Trans women in the league. And one per team? I think one per team is a couple. You got to start. What's the other tale of topics? Scott Dissick versus Corey Gamble.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Oh, that was a good one. I agree with my black brother. Hold on. I don't know what that's. He should have to smack fire out of Scott. Chris Jenner's boyfriend. Yep, I remember that. And he told Scott Dissick if your daughter Penelope scratches me, I'm whipping her ass,
Starting point is 01:39:57 referring to Scott's seven-year-old daughter. And Scott responds my job. daughter, then Corey reiterates, he physically punter Scott's child shot and give her a spanking for sure. I'm with Scott Dissick. I'm with Scott Dissick. It's the only time I'm going against the black man. So what happened? So basically
Starting point is 01:40:12 the black man, that's Chris's boyfriend. Not her husband, that's a boyfriend. That's a grandpa. That's not grandpa. He around long enough. No, fuck out it. You black man will be replaced very soon. So that doesn't no. Hell no. Either way, you're not putting your hands on my daughter.
Starting point is 01:40:28 If my daughter scratches you, Fuck that. You come, you come fight me. First of all, he told her that, too. That's a fact. I don't beat my kids.
Starting point is 01:40:34 I don't beat my kids. I spake my daughter, like twice in her life when she was mad young and I felt stupid as fuck. You're gonna tell my, isn't you gonna tell me that you're gonna beat my daughter's
Starting point is 01:40:42 on now I'm pussy? Dude pussy. Well, if you look at the tape, Scott is very pussy because he told him I'll beat your ass. How about that? I didn't see all that.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Yeah, that was the next part of it. That must have been the part, that must have been on a Takashi tape. He looked over. said, well, I'll fuck you up. How about that? Corey told him that?
Starting point is 01:41:01 Yeah. What the fuck is wrong with Corey? He's a thug. He was tight. I love it. He's sick of all this shit that's going on the house. It wasn't just that situation. There was a lot going on the house.
Starting point is 01:41:10 His get out shit is wearing off. His get out. The potion is wearing off. He's coming back to be a black. Now, do I think he could have said it a little better? Yeah, he could have. He could have said if, you know, if I was you, this is what I would have did. Because that would have made more sense in the situation.
Starting point is 01:41:26 But at the end of the day, he spoke. It's also, he spoke from an older generational period, I think. Yeah, but spanking was wrong. Because when you go back and you look at the spankers that you got, at least for me, that shit was abuse, nigger. I used to get beaten with extension cards. He's going to take a bath, getting beat with bicycles, fucking tires. But did you also see the clip, which I saw today, there was a clip of what's the ones
Starting point is 01:41:51 whose kids they are? Is it Courtney? Courtney. There's a clip of all three of her kids, disobeying everything she's talking about She's like But this is what I'm saying Nobody listening to her mom growing up
Starting point is 01:42:04 Didn't think so You know what I'm saying? But this is what I'm trying to say Oh wow Wow I see your I'm not doing nothing the white man used to do To keep us in line to my kids
Starting point is 01:42:14 I mean you put it like that Wow wow This is simple I wouldn't mind my Okay Taylor You give her a little dadlin for the day Before you say that Hold on before you say to
Starting point is 01:42:24 I am I don't encourage, but if my baby mother beat my daughters, I would understand it. If I had my, if I had sons, oh yeah, you can't pop son. That's what I'm going to say. If you wild out, you can't pop. Like, yeah, my nigga, like, you can't pop, bro. I don't like that. I'm not going to normalize.
Starting point is 01:42:41 I think as an adult is other ways to communicate with your children. Sure, but sometimes it's not. I don't believe that. If you had a son, you wouldn't, you want to square him up or nothing like that. When he got older, when he was like a grown person's age and he tried me, put your fucking hands up. If he's eight years old, you're not doing, you're not going to pop him? No. He called you a bitch.
Starting point is 01:42:57 You're not going to pop him? No. You lying like that. A white man told you that he's not going to shake your hand and you told him suck your dick. You mean tell me if an A.O. tell you, you call you a bitch.
Starting point is 01:43:10 The A.O. who you put food in his place. I just don't believe in beating my kids, so I'm not going to beat nobody else. I hear that. Well, we beat daughters. We have daughters. Yeah. And I remember the last time I told you,
Starting point is 01:43:20 I'm not going to normalize a man putting his hands on you because you did something wrong. I agree. I agree. Now, if you are my son, I'm going to normalize there are consequences and repercussion to your actions. So, yeah, I might pop you. Yeah, you might get a three taps on the ass.
Starting point is 01:43:34 I'm not going to wild out on you. But to think you're just going to be out here, wilding and I'm not going to check that. I just feel like there was a better way he could have said it. That's it. No, he shouldn't have said it. But I don't think he meant it. I'm going to beat your son up.
Starting point is 01:43:45 It was just like when he gets older. Think about other people kids. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think it's so much other things you can do other than beat your kids. You can take stuff away from them. Now, what happened when that don't work. You can grind. I thought you could think ground
Starting point is 01:43:55 with some white people's shit, but it's not. You put your fucking kid in that room and you make them sit there. You're a millionaire, bro. Put your kid in the room. It's like a fucking mini-more. Now when you take their TV and shit,
Starting point is 01:44:05 take everything. Oh, brother. She don't have the phone, all that shit. All right. Read a book. She likes reading. She does like reading.
Starting point is 01:44:13 I can't. I did that shit to my kid. I came back. She read 15 books. I'm like, fuck. God, damn. This isn't what I wanted you to do. I was on the phone with you.
Starting point is 01:44:20 I said, yeah, take an iPad back. Like she took, I said, yo, you're done. You are, yo, you don't listen. You're done for the day. I said, go in your room and read. I came back two hours later. The nigga was done with like four books, bro. I was like, all right, here's your.
Starting point is 01:44:31 God, do you have any other books? She was telling you about shit that you did wrong. Actually, I read in this one that, um, if you put me in a room by myself or five books, I will. I was tight. I went in there. I started kicking over all kind of tea parties. Yeah. Fowl.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Those are daughters for you. That is a daughter for you. Especially when you're a dad. There's no way to discipline your daughter. what I'm saying? You just got to, so I ain't a hold you. So I'd be like, I'd be looking at my big month. Like, so you're not going to pop on?
Starting point is 01:44:57 So she's running the house. You just not going to. You just not going to hear this? You're going to let this. You're going to let that was me. If that was a boy, you already know what that was. So if it was the other way around and she did that to a stepmother and she scratched her.
Starting point is 01:45:13 See what I'm saying? No. And there's a woman on a girl. Nobody else can put your hands on my kids. No. Maybe. Maybe your grandparents. Grandparents, that's it.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Blood grandparents, that's it. I ain't talking about the in-laws. Well, no. That's what I'm trying to. They have this. They have part of it. If you're raised by somebody, your whole, like, from jump. Whoever raised you could put the hand.
Starting point is 01:45:35 But that's, that child has basically been raised by him. No, it has not. My situation is different. She's the youngest one, and he's been around for like three years. That baby's not even. You don't raise. First of all, we don't know if the parents raised them fucking kids, let alone the fucking grandparents. But we don't know.
Starting point is 01:45:50 We do when we don't. We don't know nothing. My situation is totally different because I don't beat my kids. So being that I don't beat my kids, nobody beats my kids. Okay. Not even your wife? She might pot. And I don't like the word beat.
Starting point is 01:46:01 Like pop. Yes. We got beaten. We got beat. But the way he was talking to my mind, it wasn't I'm going to beat your kid's ass. It was like, I'm a popper. She's scratched in my face. I'm going to teach you what's right and what's wrong.
Starting point is 01:46:13 I don't think that teaches you what's right and what's wrong. I don't think that teaches you just to be scared of you. I didn't think that teaches you to be scared. No. But like I said in the other clip that I saw this morning. Those kids do not listen. Especially at least two of us, I know with some bad ass kids. The two over here.
Starting point is 01:46:27 So, how is the only way you realize the oven was hot. I still got the burn. I put my hand on the fucking oven. I learned, I said, that shit hot. I don't like that. That's hot, that's hot, dad. That ain't thought me from whiling out and getting in trouble. But it stopped me.
Starting point is 01:46:41 It stopped me from fucking putting that in the oven. He said, I put the mitts on. I still did what I was supposed to do. I remember the last time my mom tried to beat me when I was like 17, 18 years old, I had just got out jail. I think I went back to jail for the second time. And she beat me as if I'm selling crack now. Are you crazy?
Starting point is 01:46:56 You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't beat me. And I left. Like, I left the house. Like, I'm out. So it's just like, after a certain age, the beatings get dumb anyway. The last two times my mom put her hands on me, I let it happen. Like, because I didn't want to, like, I knew I was strong enough to stop her.
Starting point is 01:47:10 But I'm like, I, like, I, like, I, like, and then one, one slap just flew too hard. I'll let you. I got to get out of it. Lord, her mercy. She's going to put, she's going to knock. me out. Like it's one thing she's pushing on you, hitting you. You want to be a man?
Starting point is 01:47:24 You know, women always do that. Mom's always there. You want to be a man and start punching you in your chest. I'm like, all right, all right, hurt. All right, mom. Then she slapped me. I was like, oh. That's how you know, you got a little
Starting point is 01:47:32 because I remember the time my mom was trying to beat me and I kind of like grabbed her a little bit. I know my dad was at work. So when he came home, I got beat again. There you go. I got fucked up. You want to put your hands on me? Wait till your daddy come home.
Starting point is 01:47:44 That's why I said the last two. I just let me get. My phone. Mom, No, no, no, no. You hear me back. You hear me back. You hear me back?
Starting point is 01:47:50 Ma, come back. You want, you want this one? You think anybody that's been disrespected enough to tell their mom suck their dick? We just got talking about a white nigga killed his mom. Yeah. White people. Really? I don't think black people do it.
Starting point is 01:48:03 I don't think black people do it. I don't think that's even in our minds. That's not even in like the bag of the tricks. There's so many other things. We think about it. We don't even slam doors as adults around our parents. Not at all. think somebody, suck my dick, mom.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Oh, my God. And at that age, if you really talking like that, you're, nah, I'm good. Black parents can hear your thoughts, though. Oh, me. What you said? What you say? You mean, in your room.
Starting point is 01:48:28 How did you know? How did you know? Everybody talk about this code switch and shit, right? It started with black parents. Because when you at, when you at school and you out with your people, you're a whole different. Motherfucker, nigga. Suck my dick.
Starting point is 01:48:42 A bitch, you know, you got to suck my dick. So, mom, I was actually thinking. Mom. There's a party going on Your teacher called She said she said Suck her Does that even sound like?
Starting point is 01:48:51 No no You don't get to say Now you look You just got to look Your T said You were talking about Your little dick Oh when you say something wild
Starting point is 01:49:00 And your parents Like fix your face boy Fix your face I give you something to cry about Oh my Like you didn't just Whoop me My dad
Starting point is 01:49:09 My dad snuffed me What else you got I cried What did you got That was the dumbest tape in the world though I give you something to cry about You're already crying.
Starting point is 01:49:18 I already fucking crying. How many more tears you want to see? Here it go. Here go. My parents, when we was living on Long Island, we lived in this place like real fast, a little hood called Amityville. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:29 That's my dad. Like the horror? Yeah. Yeah, it was bad. Like, it's just as bad as from where I'm from. So it's like, we had this Lego table. My mom, without her way to buy me this Lego table. It's just a whole table.
Starting point is 01:49:40 The whole plate is just Legos. You could just build on it. So it was right next to where the lamp is. My mom felt like kids don't. shouldn't be controlling when the lights is on or off. So she put the lip on top of the entertainment system. So I'm mad sure I can't get to it. I got to stand on the table.
Starting point is 01:49:55 She said, don't stand on that table. I said, all right. What I'm doing standing on the table? The shit break. It's plastic. I'm all cut up. I'm laying in the middle all fucked up. She's coming there.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Did I tell you not to lay on that? I said, yeah. She's like, I'm thinking she's about to come be a mom. She said, oh, my God. She walked out to room, come back with a belt. I said, nigger, this is some of the, I'm already up. She tried to take the pain away.
Starting point is 01:50:18 She tried to beat it away. Which is so crazy because the lesson has already been taught. You hurt yourself. So therefore you know why your mom told you not to lay on. Here's another lesson. I learned the other lesson. That if you hurt yourself and I told you no, do it, I'm going to beat you up again. Women will take any opportunity to kick you when you're down.
Starting point is 01:50:36 That's right. All right, man. Tell them where they can listen to this. I started to say the guys we fuck podcast. What? We're a way better podcast. These guys are a podcast on girls. What is it called?
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Starting point is 01:51:04 Mac Wilde on Instagram, fly right on Instagram. Shout out to Charlemagne for always creating a platformer and reaching back for the young. And I appreciate Charlene for me for three years clean. Come on. That's right, baby. Oh, my time of my man, you got to give, you got to get, you got to get credit when it's due. Yo, how do you celebrate three years clean, though?
Starting point is 01:51:23 Like, how do you celebrate three years not cheating? You can't go to the strip club. I just, I just look back. Yo, this nigga says strip club. See, that's because he half white. No, I don't go to just keep white. No. Keep trying to set you up.
Starting point is 01:51:33 I just enjoy it. It's just a good feeling to look around and know that you're doing the right thing. What the best feeling? What the best feeling about not cheating? Just guilt free. Leaving the phone like this. That's it. Guilt free.
Starting point is 01:51:44 No anxiety. My shit right now is you. Never hit my phone rings. See what I'm saying? You never see nothing. It's just, I can do that too. As a person that's tough from anxiety, no anxiety. I don't got to make up no lies.
Starting point is 01:51:54 You know what I'm saying? I can pick up the phone anywhere. Yo, when you was cheating, did you ever feel like if you fuck? Don't bring her back to that place. Don't bring her back to that place. Like, when you was fucking a girl, like, did you have felt like, damn, I fucked her too good? Now you got to go home and double up on your girl?
Starting point is 01:52:08 Never felt that way. That's what I would feel like. I feel like, damn, I can't. That fuck her too good? Damn, I got to go fucking put it back. Man, whatever. felt that way. It's impossible. I was wearing condoms. Great. That's a fact. That is a fact.
Starting point is 01:52:21 Kind of big can only butt feels. That's it. See the shirt. What are those condoms? Absolutely. Not the ones I wear. You know, but they don't pay me. They don't pay me. They don't pay me. But the big one. But the big one. Let's get out of it. Let's get out of there for it. We need more left. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. If you listen to the podcast,
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