The Brilliant Idiots - Life Itself

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

In this episode of The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne tha God and Andrew Schulzdiscusso the journey behind Schulz's latest Netflix special, discussing the vulnerability, hard work, and creative process... that made it stand out. The duo shares heartfelt stories about family, infertility struggles, and the unexpected emotional impact of comedy. They also touch on the state of stand-up, the power of storytelling, and the importance of putting in the work. Plus, they explore everything from boxing debates to media manipulation and the ongoing LeBron vs. Jordan discussion. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Black Effect Podcast Festival: http://blackeffect.com/podcastfestival/ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Pre Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB The Wind on Her Tongue - Anita Kopacz https://a.co/d/fWDancH I Lived to Tell the Story: A Memoir of Love, Legacy, and Resilience - Tamika D. Mallory https://a.co/d/7DoCtWX Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yep, Charlamine the guy. Andrew Shult. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hasakaya Walker. Hello, sir. The light. The light, man.
Starting point is 00:00:10 Thank you everybody for watching, man. And, like, your messages, spreading the word. The messages have been amazing. How do you feel now that it's out in the world? I watched it last night. Thank you for watching, man. I mean, it was just as good. And my only fear was,
Starting point is 00:00:26 it's just going to be just as good on TV as it is live. and it was just as good. Oh, man, that's great. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like very validating, you know, and it's, yeah, we work really hard on it, and it's cool to work really hard on something and put it out there in the world
Starting point is 00:00:45 and, like, the most distilled version of your creativity. Because I know, like, sometimes we're out here pot and we're just talking shit, you know, crazy stuff, everything can be interpreted in a different way, but when you work really hard on a book or comedy special, whatever, it's not a lot of room for that interpretation. You're really, like, distilling it down.
Starting point is 00:01:01 You honed in. Yes. It's sharp. Yeah. It's strategic. It's sniping. Yeah. We're not sniping in here.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah. We just, you know? You sniping. Yeah. So it just felt cool and, like, just hearing all these, it felt really cool to hear all these stories that people had that were similar, like their fertility journeys. And also just people taking pictures with their kids.
Starting point is 00:01:24 They'd, like, send me these pictures. And I don't know. I got. It sounds cliche, but like just crazy warmth from people. Yeah, yeah. Like this great gratitude, this like overwhelming gratitude people had for being able to have families. And the amount of people who've gone through something similar, it's like crazy. It's cool that they, in some way, feel kind of like recognize or seen or like are able to laugh at that hard part of their life.
Starting point is 00:01:49 So, yeah, I'm on a little bit of a high right now, not that much sleep. You should be. I mean, that's what, that's, Jesus Christ. The farting won't stop. What's crazy is that's what you said the right word, the warmth of it all. Yeah. Because I know people were not expecting that from Andrew Schultz. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:06 They think Andrew Schultz is cold. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I know that they weren't expecting to feel that. When you got thugs texting, when you got thugs texting like, yo, man, Andrew Schultz special made me laugh, laugh until I was crying. That actually cry. That was the cool. That was norie.
Starting point is 00:02:26 That was the cool. Yeah, that was so cool. And Hawaii was like, yo, I literally was laughing, crying, laughing, and then cried. That was his exact words. That's the coolest, or one of the coolest responses, like people telling that they laugh, and then they also cried, and then they laughed again. And, yeah, just to make something, man, to make something that made people feel like that. That's what I felt we did with the live show, and I was hoping it would transcend.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And, yeah, just to have people go through those emotions, I feel very proud to, to create something that, yeah. And I know people will say I'm biased, but this is one of the first specials I've seen in recent times that was actually special. Yeah, yeah. Like when I think of specials that have been special,
Starting point is 00:03:09 I think of like I give Neil Brennan a lot of props. I think what Neil Brennan does with his specials is actually special. Yeah, yeah. It's like, yeah, you know, everybody else. Like I guess, you know, I give Chris Rock props because he did it live. Like he was probably the first comedian
Starting point is 00:03:23 I saw him do it live. Yeah. Which I would not recommend. Any comedian to do. I would not recommend it doing it life. But it's still something about it that makes it special. It's incredibly brave. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:34 But like catching it live, like it's just so difficult. Like catching standard. Like your editor needs to know your set to a T so he can edit the camera angles for those jokes. Right. Like so much goes into it. I wouldn't do it live. But yours is a special because I'm like, number one, I've never seen this content before. I salute to Lulu and La La La Homi's Lula.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Oh, shout out that man. They posted something today just like it. I think it said something like, you know, just, let me read it. What I'm talking about? I don't want to paraphrase. What did they say? I'm like, we're not on a podcast where I can just pull this up. They said, because it's the sentiment that I feel like a lot of people have.
Starting point is 00:04:14 They said, uh... Shout Lulu and... Oh, yeah, okay, here it goes. Laugh so hard that Andrew Schultz stand up on Netflix. Congrats and thanks for being so open about something so personal. And to me, that is what makes things special. Yeah, art. Not just comedy, just art.
Starting point is 00:04:32 When you're willing to be vulnerable about something that people aren't vulnerable about. Yeah. And then you're able to, especially a topic like that, to be able to take that and put it into a 59-minute comedy special and make it entertaining, funny, and you still feel what you're supposed to feel from it. Come on, man. Respect, man. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:04:53 If you don't want to end up to the world. That would be awesome. I really feel that way. If you don't want to Emmy something, it's fucking wrong. That would be fucking awesome, man. That would be really cool. I thought it was great. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And shout out Kate Hudson and Chet Hanks. We're going to have to take y'all out. What is that? Why is that number one? They got to, so, yeah, we're number two right now on Netflix, which is fucking awesome. But obviously, you know me. I'm the most ambitious motherfuckerucker. So it's like...
Starting point is 00:05:17 It is awesome when you think about the thousands of pieces of content that's on fucking Netflix. It's just number two. That's the other thing that's crazy. It's not just like in comedy specials. Yes. Comedy special is number one, but in just... everything on Netflix. And don't,
Starting point is 00:05:29 don't get it fucked up. There's old stuff on Netflix that still cracks the top ten. So you're, you're competing against thousands of shit. We beat the new Robert De Niro show. Wow. Yeah, multiple days in a row.
Starting point is 00:05:39 We beat Megan Markle's whack-ass shit. Wow. It was cool. She had something. What she got? She got, Robert De Niro had nothing either. Yeah, his shit is called New Day
Starting point is 00:05:47 or something like that. And, yeah, it was fire. It was really, it was really cool. But they got that show like Running Point or something. like that. And I actually, I think Chet's the man. You'll get the number one. But we're going to get there.
Starting point is 00:06:01 We're going to get. What's the brilliant idiots get after it. Brilliant idiotis massive. Go do what you need to do. Let's go. I just, I just thought it was fantastic, man. And it's only been a few days. Two days now that we're recording this. Yeah. What it's just, I think it's going to be one of them ones. And you're, and you're sharp one there. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Like sharp. Like, like, oh shit, Andrew is funny. Thank you, man. Yeah, yeah. I didn't want a half ass it. We toured that shit for like two years. You did. That's the thing. And like I probably developed it for like three. And it was, yeah, we worked really hard on it.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And that's something that like I would like to change. Not change, but I think is important that like working hard on something is cool. Like half ass and shit is not cool. I think there's a little bit of sentiment out there like the, I don't, I don't got to care. I don't got to care. Yeah, I don't really care that much about it. It's like, well, this is what I've done with my entire life. So I really fucking care about it.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I'm going to work really hard at it. And if I fail working really hard, I can accept that. But I refuse to put some half-ass shit out. That's why, you know, we have all these conversations about content creators. Yeah, you know, everybody that's in the podcast space, everybody that's in the YouTube space, you're a content creator, which you're only making one type of content. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 You know what I'm saying? If you're, like, to me, a guy like a Drewski. Yeah. He takes time crafting these sketches. Yeah. Right? And then he puts them out into the world. And that's why they hit the way that they do.
Starting point is 00:07:29 You said a really good thing about the Drusky thing, about him being really tapped into like cultural sentiment. Cultural sentiment. He understands what people are feeling. That's right. And he's making these sketches about the topics or the trends that he finds people feeling. And that's probably why they're so successful
Starting point is 00:07:45 because there's this like unbelievable relatability, even if that's not your life, you know, part of, you know someone like that. And that seems to be what explodes, I find. That's what real comics do. Real comics take time to live life. They tap into something for you. It was a personal experience.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah. And whether you realized it or not, this was a personal experience that so many people have gone through. I had no clue, man. And you want to laugh about it. That's the thing. This is like the most devastating shit
Starting point is 00:08:15 that you go through in your life, but it is funny. Like when you come out the other end of it, it is so, it like, I remember, like even the little shit that I would say, Like, I remember when I, I remember I did one sperm sample and the doctor was saying how like my, my sperm, not only wasn't swimming well, they were like shaped weird. And I remember, yeah, they said they were shaped weird.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And I said to them, I was like, well, maybe they hit the cup hard. And it like mutated us. Good point. That's what I said. Liquid takes the shape of whatever it fucking touches. Oh, I was thinking it was like in 9-11. I think it was like just blunt force trauma. Like it hit the cup and then, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:52 and the way the doctor looked to me and was like, yeah, I really don't think it's that. I just think they're shape-haired. He had no idea you're a comedian, huh? Nah, none of them know. Also, like, my wife's OB-G-Y-N when they all told her that I was a comedian, her reaction was like the most fucking Asian lady reaction ever.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Oh, what you gonna do now? What? What? Sorry, the second most Asian lady. Okay, okay. She goes, really, he's not funny at all. God. I said, lady, I'm not laughing when I'm in here.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah, because you're serious. I'm going through it. I'm going through it right now. I'm trying to get my wife pregnant with a whole team of scientists. I'm not having fun. The thing I like about this special the most is that, well, it's a lot I like about it. But when I saw it the first time, the first thing I said to myself was number one, I never seen nobody approach that subject, but number two, from the male perspective.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah, I think that's the thing's probably more unique. this idea like, infertility a lot of times is we talk about from the female perspective because men we can't believe there could ever be our fault. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:00 As a matter of fact, we're terrified to get women pregnant our whole life. So the fact that it was me, it actually made me feel more comfortable talking about it because if it was my wife only,
Starting point is 00:10:11 I don't know if I could go up there and talk about it like that. I would feel like I was... If it was my wife's issue, I would feel so... I would feel so... She was comfortable exposing that thing that she would be devastated by. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:10:26 So there was a little bit more freedom. Like, you know, I make fun everybody, but I also make fun of myself. It's self-deprecate. It's the most. You cannot watch, if you watch that special and you get mad at Andrew Schultz ever again for clowning somebody, you're just being biased.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I gave you the nuke on me. Yep. Anybody who wants to make fun of me for the red... Taylor almost made a kid to Cullin-Lah! Taylor shot the door! The media! Immediately. Immediately.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I'm like, you, Taylor, there was no need to press the red button. She nuked me twice. No, I just remember the first one. No, she nuked me once, and then she got pregnant by accident. That's two news. Yeah, you're right. She's at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:06 It made no sense for Taylor to hit that nuke back then for no goddamn, and nobody knew what was going on. Just me? I don't even think you was, you ain't even had the material for the specialness. It motivated me. Let me get ahead of. I'm going to doctor. that night, how we get this girl knocked up? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:11:25 You should be very happy for creating a body of work that will stand the test of time. Thank you, bro. And you created a body, it's it for comedians. It's like your album. It's like, yo, you put out a dope-ass album. You put out an album, to me, that is a classic. But once again, everybody's going to say I'm biased. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:43 Good. All I do is tell you go watch the shit for yourself. Yeah, you go watch it. You know? You see, yeah, you see. Hopefully you like it and hopefully you get something from it. And shout out everybody that worked on it, man. Like, the amount of people that made this amazing, you know, shout out the whole team, like everybody from Dove, Cheryl, Rob, Shifty, editing it, Mark being in there, editing it with me, Vala, putting together the video pieces, like the whole-
Starting point is 00:12:07 Giving them credit, man. Oh, man, giving them the credit and the credits is everything. Oh, absolutely, man. I gave my wife, Chief. You got a coach, yeah, I saw that. Executive baby creator. Yeah. Oh, that's what it said.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I just thought it said executive. See, I wouldn't pay it. We made us to Reddit. We made like a fake credit. Oh. But you know, the Netflix thing gets small after it. So I didn't know, I didn't see all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:28 But no, everybody needs that, man. Especially the behind the scenes people because they make it happen. Yep. It makes me look good. If people haven't watched it yet, I would recommend watching it with surround sound if you have. Oh, yeah. Because it sounds phenomenal. Oh, Tom Cassetta.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yeah. You're hearing audio. You're hitting laughs from different parts of the room and you're like that. It feels like you there. That's the thing. I'm glad you point that out because Tom Cassetta is a genius and he does all of our audio and we've told him to do every comedian's audio and he had so many mics around it and again if you're watching your laptop it is one experience but if you do have like a surround sound system
Starting point is 00:12:59 you'll hear laughs to your right and left and it's designed in that way so if you're at home in your system you feel like you're at the the show yeah yeah and i was what to have i was going to say it's also cool because you were able to do exactly how you wanted it because last time they're trying to make you not like cut some stuff out yeah they were cool they were very cool and shout out to Netflix for letting me do that, man. I really appreciate that. And just creating a piece of content that, like, that means something.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I just feel like you see a lot of shit nowadays that's just like yuck it up for the moment type shit, you know what I mean? Everything is a reaction channel. Yeah, man. And like, which is fine too. We're out here reacting to shit. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:42 But there is something about, I would love everybody that reacts to stuff to create something and put it out to be judged. because you might have a different feeling towards the reactions you had. Like, that's why, even with the thing with Kendrick, like I really admire somebody,
Starting point is 00:13:59 like the halftime performance, I admire somebody putting something out and working hard on something to be judged by the world. Absolutely. There is admiration, regardless of what else went down. And you take what comes with it.
Starting point is 00:14:10 You got to. Because artist's objective. Yep. Period. Like, if you're the type of person that puts something out to the world and all you can stand is the good comments,
Starting point is 00:14:17 you're not billed for this. Like, because everybody going to have an opinion. Some people are going to like it. Some people are not going to like it. Some people are not even going to give a fuck. So who should you focus on? Yep. You.
Starting point is 00:14:27 None of it. Exactly. I did the best work that I possibly could. I gave it to the world. Hey, y'all have at it, man. Also, I got to say something. Aaron the plumber DM me because he heard us talking about it. And he was like, yo.
Starting point is 00:14:38 And he said he goes, listen, man. He'll thank you guys for having me on the show. Yo, I'm a huge fan of Charlemagne. I read his book while I was locked up. It changed my life. and it really helped me be like a productive person when I came out of prison. Really?
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah. So that shit has impact too. Like when you create those darts, you create that really distilled version of art. It hits people in a different way, man. And I think, you know, it's so funny you said that because there's people that will watch us do this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Or watch me on Breakfast Club. Watch you on Flagrant. And not realize that there's other things that we do that might be a little bit sharper. Yeah. And like me and NB was talking about. this today because there's people that don't even know Envy's a DJ. So there's people that don't know you do stand-up. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Like there's people that don't know I write books. You know? But those are the, like, yeah, it's just interesting to watch. Like, I remember when you would do Donkey the Day, it was this thing that like, I feel like a lot of the comedy world really tuned into because
Starting point is 00:15:39 we're used to writing jokes. Like, we're used to roast, we're used to these things. And it was like a, to me at least when I saw it, it was like this distilled version of your comedic opinion on a thing or your serious opinion on a thing. Which is different than a conversation, but it's a really good, like,
Starting point is 00:15:56 look into how somebody's brain works. Where, where, where, we're. And, yeah, the books and, like, just finding those different things, I think is, yeah, it's just cool to pull it out, and I feel, I'm, like, so stoked, people really fuck with it. What do you do after you get this out to the world? How soon do you start?
Starting point is 00:16:15 I got to live a little. Got to live a little. Every comedian says that. You got to live a little. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I feel like you got to live. Because I wouldn't have been able to do this one if I didn't live. Yeah. I feel like if I just keep touring nonstop, I end up writing like a little bit different version of the same joke.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Because it's a different joke, but it's the same kind of. And when you take some time off, new shit affects you. And then you go up with that new shit affecting you. And you've got to start all over and it's brutal and humbling. You hear that, Drake? Do you hear that Drake? No, I'm that. You're making a point.
Starting point is 00:16:49 This is why Hendricks music or even a Jay Cole's music will matter more as time goes on because you got to take a break, okay? Yeah. And I just said that for the Drake people that, for the people that be like, yo, Charlemagne is always hating on Drake. You know what I mean? I wanted you to tune in to the first 15, 20 minutes of this podcast and let you know how consistent I am. I just want you to know how consistent I am.
Starting point is 00:17:20 You are consistent. Very consistent. Yeah, man, very proud of you, man. Thank you, brother. It's phenomenal special. And I appreciate all your support and all your guys support through this whole thing. You know, you guys knew I was going through it even before I was talking about it publicly.
Starting point is 00:17:35 So, you guys saw the whole fucking, the whole journey. Yeah, but you kind of never know how much a person is going through. You know what I mean? Like, bro, there was episodes of brilliant ads. You can even look at the comments. I would be yawning a lot. And people were like, oh, Schultz is exhausted or Schultz whatever. You fucking drained.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I was, no cum left. Like, you're just a cumless human. There's only two cumulus humans on this planet. Me on women. Elon Musk. I hand drew and I guess some women. But he was, you was fucking jerking off all the fucking time. Now, apparently I was so stressed.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I got this thing called, it's like anxiety-induced exfixiation or something like that. So you never feel like you can get a full breath. Wow. So like for months, I would breathe and it never felt like I got a full breath. And then what your body does is it starts to get, your body starts to yawn as a reset.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yo, that's crazy because I would notice sometimes you would just pause a second and go, yes. I take these deep-ass breaths. Yeah. And I just couldn't breathe. Yeah. And it was weird.
Starting point is 00:18:43 when I would go on stage, I could breathe again because my brain was focused on a task. So, wow. But when I was in like a more casual setting like this, the anxiety, sometimes your body has a limit, I guess. And it just shuts down. It happens with like depression. It happens with anxiety. And I didn't, I was like, what the fuck is going on? I thought I had a heart problem.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I went to the doctor and shit. That's when I, you know, we both got to say a doctor. And yeah, it was just, yeah, it's crazy, man. What is your wife think? Man, she's just really happy, and she's really proud. And, like, I think she's really proud of me. And I also think she's really proud that, like, the story is shared because I think there's a lot of other people, even her friends,
Starting point is 00:19:29 that are going through similar things. And I feel like, I don't know, maybe they felt a little bit normalized. And they felt a little seen. And, yeah, so she's just really proud, man. That's going to be sad when a lot of these women find out it's not the guy, though. but it's dim. No, I'm just saying. Like, you can't see you're going through similar things.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I told you I prayed the night before, right? About what? The night before we got our results. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was so sure it was my wife, and I knew it was going to kill her, and I said a prayer. And I don't really be praying like that.
Starting point is 00:19:59 But I was in my bathroom, and I was like, God, if there's a problem, make it my fault, because I don't think she could handle it. And God was like, say less. Yeah. I should have been praying the other 39 years of my life. What was I doing? It worked out, though.
Starting point is 00:20:19 No, for real, for real. Let's do some, let's do some all memes matter. We'll be coming back to the life. Are you, when can your daughter see this special? Well, yeah, I'm like, I'm not protective of it, Taylor. I'm not. Is she won yet? She's not, she won yet?
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, she's won. She just 13 months? 13 months. But, like, yeah, like, I don't know, whenever she's, like, old enough to watch it, I would let her do it. There's some wild stuff in there, but, yo, that's going to be fire. Yeah. You get to watch a special to see, you know, how you were conceived.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah. That's going to be fire. Bro, when I know, like, the moment I imagine it happening. Like, I imagine, like, us grounding her or something like that because she did some fuck shit. She's upset us. She's like, y'all don't even love me. Y'all don't even care. And then I'm going to go, all right, you don't think we love you.
Starting point is 00:21:05 This is what your mom went through so that we could bring you into this world. She'll be like, who cares? What is 30,000? Yeah, no. What is 30,000? You think that's going to work? That shit. No, no, what I'm going to say is, look, at one point, we really did one.
Starting point is 00:21:23 And then you must have done some fuck shit in between now and then to make us feel like this. Oh, my God. I got excited we were. You could talk back. You could still be in the lap. You could be one of the five still in the lab right now. You got your brother's assistant. is right there frozen right now.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Okay, stop playing with me. For real. That's fine. That's actually like, what's that Stevie Wonder song? Where the Stevie Wonder's baby is born. And they got the baby crying on it. Oh, what song is that, man? Isn't she lovely?
Starting point is 00:21:56 Isn't she lovely? I think it isn't she lovely. That's fire. You did the comedy version of Isn't She Lovely. Because your child is going to be able to watch that in the future and be like, oh, shit. But if she talks shit like Taylor did, that's going to be a problem.
Starting point is 00:22:11 If she talks even a little bit of shit, I'm letting know, Shiloh, right now. See, hey, let me, for people who don't remember the joke, we can insert it. This is after-tale and Shultz raced. And Shultz was given- This is an after. This is years after that. We raced like two years before. Yeah, but she kept giving her shit for it. I did.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And Tadler was like, yo, I'm faster than your sperm, though. Andrew, what I tell you, what I told you last week, Taylor? Let me tell you something, let me tell you something, though. I could run faster than your sperm, though. though, so relax. Damn! What? He's a lot.
Starting point is 00:22:45 He's comedians. That's shit. I don't want to choose bombs. Like, why would you do that? You should see my face. I just go like this. I go, ooh. Ooh, it's funny though.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It's funny though. You can leave it in. It's funny, but that hurt. The comedian's sound really came. The comedian style was like, yeah, but the human side was like, God. Damn. Those are the best jokes, though.
Starting point is 00:23:14 No, it's the best. Like, if you're not causing people pain, is it funny? No. Everybody gets these jokes, man. I was convinced you workshop that one with her, because that sounds like Charlottman. No. I have no.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Why would I say that to my saying? Because you're evil. That's what I thought about her. Like, God, dang. I hit below the bell. I'm, I could be very. She was mad. Like, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I don't want to make you laugh. I'm going to be suicide. No, no, that was diabolical. God, damn. She said that shit. I was like, I took one of my deep breaths. Listen, LeBron versus Jordan, what is this, Taylor? We do it all memes matter.
Starting point is 00:23:52 What is this? Well, I would go to pick one, pick one. I don't know. It's because this is what happened in lateh. Oh, Tramante and Lamont Roach? Yeah. Yo, shout out Lamont Roach, man. Hell of a fight.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I, listen, I had one conversation with Lamont Roach on Breakfast Club. I said it during the interview. I said, your confidence makes me want to push the money on you. Really? It was just, I'm just, his confidence. And there's one thing, you got people that got fake confidence, right? Yep, yep. And they go in there and get knocked the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:24:23 It was something about the way he was talking. Then I'm like, he's going to be a problem. Bro, from watching the fight, he didn't look scared of Dervantes's power. Well, I think he took it and realized like, oh, shit. That's right. And sometimes you don't know if you can handle it. Exactly. You wake up like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I thought I can't do it. Now 11 seconds later, you've been out. Yeah, it was, I would see him counterpunching with Gervante when Gervante was like throwing bombs. And that's a dangerous thing to do. Like, say what, Gervante is a bad motherfucker. Bad motherfucker. We're not going to judge off one fight whether he's not one of the baddest boxers on the planet. But, I mean, Lamont, Lamont can box his ass off.
Starting point is 00:25:04 That guy needs a lot of credit. I think Tink did, he just didn't look. He didn't look as focused as he usually looks. But this was a very interesting, this is the part of the fight that we probably, we're watching. Lamont Roach should have won this fight. And I'll tell you why he should have won this fight. When the fight was over, the first thing I said was it's either going to be a draw or it's going to be a close decision to Lamont Roach.
Starting point is 00:25:29 If they call this knee a knockdown, which they should have, a knee in boxing, should have counted the knockdown. It is what it is. We're not going to sit here and act like it's not. he wins that fight. Look at his confidence, though. He's stalking Gervante. I'm going to tell you when his confidence went through the roof.
Starting point is 00:25:48 After Gervante took that knee and then went to his corner, Javante came back with a flurry. Javante was landing. And Lamont handled it all. Handed it. After that, I was like, oh, Lamont ain't scared at all. It's in the sixth round. But look at his defense.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Like, Lamont's defense is absolutely phenomenal. He's always ready to punch back. Look at him. Phenomenal. And TAKE was hitting him hard. Look at Roach's face at the end of the fight. He's swollen. He's swollen. It's not like Tank wasn't landing on him.
Starting point is 00:26:15 This kid can both of them. Roach is tough, man. And then it's the whole Maryland, D.C. thing. Like, Roach can't get knocked out. You know what I'm saying? He gets knocked out. I got to go back to D.C. He got knocked out by Tank.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Like, he's fighting for a whole city. Yeah. And it's really Baltimore, D.C. Baltimore, D.C. You know what I mean? The rest of Maryland, nobody's really giving the fuck. That's the real. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:38 Like if you put a buckhead or wherever to fuck. What's the, no, not buckhead. I don't know. There's some shit that. No disrespect, Maryland. I only know Baltimore. It's where all the white people live that work in D.C. but don't want to live there.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Oh, you talk about where, no, you're talking about where that, where the resort is. Oh, I know exactly, I was just there. I know exactly what you're talking about. I don't remember right now, no. I know exactly what you talk about. But we've had two very high-level boxing matches
Starting point is 00:27:05 in the last few weeks, the Better Beav and Bivel fight. And this one. Like, this is boxing at his best. It's at his fucking best. It's make you love this sport, man. It really does. And this is why boxing is a great sport
Starting point is 00:27:16 because it's so unpredictable. Yep. But I'm telling you, it was something about Roach's confidence that made me feel like, oh, Roach's going to be a right in that way. Oh, look at that. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:27:26 These guys are in a phone booth. Good boxing, man. Both of them, yeah. Good boxing. I want to watch this three more times. Also, the referee, I believe it's Tony Weeks is his name? Can't stand him. Really?
Starting point is 00:27:36 He's the one that got the eyes on both sides of his head like a fish. But he loves this game. Yeah, but I don't respect the fact he didn't call that a knockdown. Ah, he made that mistake, yes. That's a huge mistake. Yeah, that's not no like a mistake. Oh, if you go back a second, this is like super high level boxing. So I don't want to say I can't stand him because I don't know him personally. I didn't like it. You got to call that a knockdown. Yes, he definitely, look at that great counter punch right there. So, ooh, great counter by Giovante. Like, this is the highest level boxing. They going at it now. But watch what Lamont does when he throws his jab.
Starting point is 00:28:08 He throws his jab at Gervantes' left hand. So that's his left right here. He throws it at hit, and then he holds onto his left, tries to peel it down, and then he comes over at the right. This is just... What do you... Are they constantly back, though? You see him?
Starting point is 00:28:27 And he's trying to peel that hand down so he can catch him with the right hook. What did you feel about Tank's excuse? Play his excuse. The grease? Tank to me doesn't strike me as a liar. I don't I don't see him
Starting point is 00:28:40 A woman in Baltimore This was like You don't know him So You don't know him What the fuck you mean? No like I don't know He just doesn't strike me as a liar
Starting point is 00:28:50 So I feel like there was something in his eye And when it happened he wasn't like in trouble Yeah So that's what Like if he was like in trouble Having a really tough time And then maybe I would have been like Oh no he wanted a breath
Starting point is 00:29:00 What if what if Roche punched Was a little bit harder It looked It's possible that maybe his punch wasn't even that hard, but he punched him and Gervante didn't close his eye and the glove actually hit his eyeball. And then just for a moment,
Starting point is 00:29:15 he's a little like blurred up. Like it's almost like an eye poke. Oh. And then he thinks it's the grease, but in reality he really couldn't see. It doesn't matter. You take the knee that's a point. You take the knee as a point.
Starting point is 00:29:26 That was wild that he said he didn't know that, though. Nah, come on, come on. Like, he said he didn't know that was taking a knee. I don't know if he said he didn't know taking a knee was a knockdown or he could be disqualified. He just said he didn't really understand. saying that, which was kind of wild. I didn't want to get caught while
Starting point is 00:29:40 my eyes was burning. And you know, like, you can get knocked out like that. So I'd rather take the knee than, you know. But I ain't really know that you can, like, get the squad of fire for all that. Or, like, when you start counting, I'm like, what the hell? But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:59 You can't just take a knee in the middle. Or everybody would just do it throughout the round. Like, you get hit with a hard shot. You take a knee and then not have a point. By the way, if the ref. counts that, we see Gervante fight at a high level for the rest of the fight. Because now he got to get a knockout. Oh, that's, I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 00:30:16 So right now Lamont is, right now, Lamont is petitioning saying that it should have been considered a knockdown, which it should have. And they want to change the result of the fight. But that's a great point. Gervante didn't change the way he fought after that wasn't counted as a knockdown. So I don't know if it's fair to count it now.
Starting point is 00:30:40 No, I don't think this shit. I mean, I don't think it matters. Like, if you, if you take, if you give Gervante a loss and give Roche a belt, like, it's like, they got to run it back. They got to run it back regardless. Like, I want to see the fight again regardless. Play that, Taylor. Grease in my shit, so the shit was like, you know, like what you said.
Starting point is 00:31:01 sweating and things like that and the grease come in my face and burn my eyes type of shit damn why y'all boys like I'm saying bullshit like this is real facts here's the thing what the fuck was that that was the um hairdresser that said
Starting point is 00:31:16 after hair stylist I think I I can understand the sweat came like she ain't never getting Jervante ain't never going back to her why is she coming on the internet and talking why because you're humiliating you're humiliating her
Starting point is 00:31:29 that had nothing to do with her In a sense, he's coming out here like... We don't even know who she is. Like, none of us would have been like, damn, who did Gervantes' hair? You know what I mean? Everybody gets their hair done before a fight, right? Like, you want to look good before a fight.
Starting point is 00:31:42 It's not the first time he got his hair done before a fight. It's not her false. And that's what makes it bogus, though. I'll say this about boxers. Don't have any excuse when you lose. No excuse makes sense when you lose. Just be like, yo, it was a good fight running back. I think about Deonté Wilde when he said that his ring attire that he bought to the ring was too heavy.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Durante is saying, yo, the braid got in his eye and caused him burning. Like, don't explain it. But he had to give an explanation for this because then they would have been like, yo, you just took a knee for no reason. I'd have been like, I don't know why I did it. I'd say I couldn't see. I was like, I didn't see. Yeah, I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I'm like, yeah, I don't know what happened. I'm like, y'all really don't know. I had a brain fart, you know what I'm saying? I'm for real. Like, C-T.E. But then that's more of a case. Because you clearly look at him. It's two things.
Starting point is 00:32:35 He didn't look hurt, right? Yeah. So it's like, we know he didn't take a knee because he looked hurt. Or maybe Roach did hit him a little bit harder than we think. Yeah. I don't know. Either way, you took the knee.
Starting point is 00:32:44 So you got to take that. You took the knee, run it back, do it in the DMV. Don't do it nowhere else but in the DMV. Facts. Run it back. Let's see it. And I want to see Tank. I want to see Tank and Roach
Starting point is 00:32:54 mix it up with all of the best. I want to see, you know, them fight to you a few more Lopez. Yep. I want to see them fight Shakur. Ryan Garcia. What y'all say? Y'all be fronting on Shakur, man. Yeah, Shakur's nice.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Chico's nice. Chicoe don't have the power? But his boxing is beautiful. Beautiful. You know what a really high-level boxing match would be? Is Lamont and Shakur. Lamonti, you want Chicoor next? Because they're both so technical.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Now, here's the problem. It might not, it might be, like, boring to the casual boxing fan. Like, Dervante brings the knockout power. So every round is interesting because you're like, all he needs to do is connect once. but Shakur versus Lamont it might be a little bit more boring to the casual
Starting point is 00:33:34 but to the boxing fanatic that's going to be the highest level chess match Shakur stopped his last he stopped the last fight he fought though yeah and they're trying to not give him credit for that it's like this boy can't win give it up yo that kid is nice bro well why because the guy came in
Starting point is 00:33:48 as the last minute replacement no they're saying that like he was stopped by someone else or something who give the fuck because you know how people are haters they just got to find a reason to Once there's a narrative set, they're just trying to justify the narrative. But shout out to Shakur. Shout out to Jay Prince, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Jay Prince reps him. Chicoor, right? Yeah. What you said about narratives is important. Slew to all the PR firms out there that get paid just to push narratives. Yeah, they should go to jail. No, you know, well. They should go to jail.
Starting point is 00:34:18 That should be considered libel. Who are you talking about in particular? Shakur Stevenson. Oh, no, I was talking about, yeah. Never, I don't even. He said, sad. We could cut it. Well, there's a PR firm that reps two people in particular,
Starting point is 00:34:35 and it's interesting to watch these two people put things out there in the ecosystem to control the narratives about this. I'll say this. Both names rhyme with each other. They rhyme. If you guess, I'll tell you. Jay-Z and Beyonce. Gee.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Oh. Ooh. Both names rhyme and one of their biggest endorsements rhyme. Oh, Drake, Steak. You're almost there, Alec. Drake, Steak, and... I don't know who. I thought this was...
Starting point is 00:35:23 See, y'all lied to me. Y'all told me this was the biggest story, and everybody's on to it. Oh, Blake! Oh. Oh, Blake Lively. Oh, you're on it now. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:35:34 You on it now. Yeah, let's go. I'm on it now because of the information that I received this week. And I'm like, oh, shit. And this is the other shit. Like, they put the things out there. And then these, I don't even want to call them dumb, but these, like, attention-seeking motherfuckers on the internet
Starting point is 00:35:50 start posting videos and shit that reinforce the fake narrative. Yeah. But it's out there. Yes. There's views in it. So it's the public. This is manipulating the blogs and all the other channels. Yo, it's actually, look at this.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Look at this. Look at this. This is a spreadsheet. Right? This is a spreadsheet. What's that number? 2,000, 26,000. That's all the sites they feed stories to.
Starting point is 00:36:22 By the way, this is only one spreadsheet. Look at this one. So I would love. And by the way, by the way, look, look. And it's not just the sites. Hold on. Look at the stuff that's on here. Look, look at all of the websites, all of the fan pages, all of the blog sites. I'm not going to jump out the window and accuse all of anything.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I'm just going to simply say, we know who's getting paid to push things. We know who's getting paid to push things. We should put, and we know who's getting paid to push things. We should put the people out. They have to put it in one of these blogs right here. Nah, but we should. We should, because some of these people are dumb enough to do without getting paid. They're so stupid.
Starting point is 00:36:58 they just run it with the story. That's true, too. So you're doing the same thing that the other places are doing for money. By the way, I'm not mad at it because I've been saying that a lot of these PR firms, like there's an old school way of doing PR, right? And the old school way of doing PR, especially crisis PR,
Starting point is 00:37:12 is you run into like a major publication. You run into a New York Times. Oh, no, they're much more intelligent than the old school way of doing it. No, well, this firm in particular. Yeah. Because they're, listen, I remember when that article came out in 2003 and it was an article about, I'm going to tell you which article it was. I think we talked
Starting point is 00:37:29 about it here on the podcast before, but it was an article about how bloggers, it was an NBC News article, how bloggers shaped the Tory Lane's trial. Yep. This was January 2023. I got caught up in that shit. And I remember saying to myself, if I was a PR firm, I'm going to hire all of them immediate. I'm getting all of them on payroll. I'm going to get all those bloggers. I want I want the fan pages that be on X and all that. I want them all because when it's time to push your narrative, nobody does it better than them. Nobody does it better than them.
Starting point is 00:38:05 So when you see these fan pages, and I'm going to tell you how they manipulate you, you look at these fan pages, right, especially on X, the captions will say things that the video don't even say. Literally, you'll read the caption, and then you might click the video and not watch the full two minutes, but the caption is already here. Then you'll go watch somebody on YouTube, do a reaction video for it,
Starting point is 00:38:28 and they're reinforcing the narrative. Next thing you know, you're running around with this. And that's the annoying thing is that, like, you've got to let people have the freedom to say whatever the fuck they want. We believe a free speech they could have it. Absolutely. That I get. The annoying thing is that sometimes those things can become trends.
Starting point is 00:38:44 We've seen it happen with me. We've seen it happen with you. Absolutely. And it's like, oh, wow, is there? You're almost looking at, like, who's behind this? Like, you're running with a fake narrative. and there are all these people rewarding the fake narrative, the same people that reward all these other fake narratives,
Starting point is 00:39:00 and you start sitting back and going, wait, is this like a strategic attack? Of course it is. It's always. And I just think it's kind of crazy for somebody like Drake to be going after, you know, UMG. Well, he settled with I-Heart, and I-Hart came out. I was like, yeah, we showed him all the shit,
Starting point is 00:39:19 and there was no cases. Because what they call, what the, What the lawyer strategically did was try to make it seem like... They settled. Yes. When the reality is, it was a deposition, it was a petition, right? For information. He wanted the deposition to get information.
Starting point is 00:39:39 He saw what he needed to see. And it was like, oh, we don't got a case. They dropped the petition. Simple as that. Nothing more, nothing less. But it's just funny to me to accuse entities of, taking money to do whatever. When you're paying entities.
Starting point is 00:39:56 When you're paying these entities to push false narratives. So that's, and this is a very common, this is a very common thing. And that's why, like, Loki, I think we should, we should probably expose all the sites that push the false narratives for money because people should know, they should know that they're consuming.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah. I don't know who's pushing what for money yet. I just know that, are we going to find out? I have a spreadsheet of all of the, the places that the front PR firm pushed the story to. So, you know, it may not even be a thing where you're actually paying people directly, but you're paying a PR firm.
Starting point is 00:40:33 And this PR firm has these people on in the tuck. By the way, I ain't mad at. I might need y'all one day. That's a thing. You know what I'm saying? Also the opposition, I remember you said to me this fire shit. I've said this other people since you said, you said, hey, pay attention.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Pay attention whoever is hating right now. I go, why? Oh, yes. This was beautiful. That's right. You're like, during, it was even during the Kendrick shit or it was during that like shit's a gig shit? And it was like, yo, pay attention to who's hating right now.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I'm like, why? He goes, you go, because they've been hating the whole time. The whole time? They've been nice to you, but they didn't have the confidence to come out. And now that it looks like there's a tsunami, now that there's like a little confidence. They feel it's over for you so they can get behind it. Now they were hating the whole fucking time.
Starting point is 00:41:13 They read it Friday. They read it Friday. They read it Friday. Yep. Debo knocked out. Debo on the ground. Now let me go grab his chain, punch him in, run off to the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pussy. We're not going, we're not going nowhere.
Starting point is 00:41:27 We're not going nowhere. Never. Nowhere. At least we'll have the pot. All else fails, we'll have the pot. Yes. Okay. But now it's just interesting. Shout out to the firm. Y'all doing a great fucking job, by the way. Yeah. Great job. They're doing a great job. That firm is doing a great job. Great prices PR. What else we got, Taylor? Come on. Pick one, Taylor? What's the LeBron versus Jordan thing? That's always a good one. Kyle's not. Cajonaut was doing. Look to the goat, Cajan, not the young legend. This kid is so impressive. He's unbelievable. Kai was on first take with Stephen A. Smith. What did Cye say?
Starting point is 00:42:12 I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I don't like to use the word fan, you know, loosely, but I'm a fan of Kyleson night. You look like a young Kevin Hark. You're a freaky eye here? Shut up. See what I'm saying? See what I'm saying? David. He can't even show love, though. David show love. You know, I'm saying. He says, why? Why? Why? Why? You are you a fan. You want to fuck him. I can't even say fanning. You, when it come to LeBron James, you
Starting point is 00:42:33 start hating. That's how I feel. Because I feel like you more of an older generation type of dude. You like Michael Jordan, cool. But listen, every time when there's a debate going on with you and Michael Jordan and LeBron James, you always got something to say by LBJ, and I'm here to say, bro. LeBron's better than Jordan. I said it.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I said it, bro. I said it, though. Something wrong with you. Something wrong with you right now. First of all, that. Okay. Put the hell you. Don't think about it. Don't you even think about coming on this show with that, Kyle. Don't you do it? Michael Joe. Michael Jordan ain't never had 50,000 points.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Okay? Let's talk about that real quick. He didn't play 25 years. The Brown James is 40 years old and he's performing better than half of the people in the league right now. You understand that? Do you understand that? You understand the greatness that's going on right now? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:43:17 This is the problem with the young whippersnappers like yourself. This is the problem, okay? I'm not having the LeBron Jordan debate no more. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because, first of all, I've been told y'all, you can't jump the LeBron Jordan if you're not going to debate Jordan Kobe. Okay?
Starting point is 00:43:32 By the way, there is no debate with Michael Jeffrey Jordan. Michael Jeffrey Jordan is the greatest NBA player of all time. It is what it is. I got LeBron in my top five. That's that. I don't even know why a young man. No, I do know why. I know why a young man thinks LeBron James is better.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Because you just didn't see Jordan? Yeah. Is that simple? You just didn't see MJ. I was working out the day, me and my cousin Tony, and I was having this conversation with Tony. I said, Tony, do you know we used, when we were living in South Carolina,
Starting point is 00:44:06 they used to have WGN in South Carolina, which was the local Chicago news channel? That's how influential Jordan was. You got local Chicago news. I don't think, I could be wrong. I don't think WGN is on cable anymore. We were in South Carolina. and WGN was a local Chicago news channel
Starting point is 00:44:30 and we used to watch all the Bulls games on WGN. That's because you had that illegal cable box. No, it wasn't legal. You remember? Y'all didn't have WGN in New York? No. I don't know what WGN is. But I damn for sure know we weren't watching the Bulls in New York
Starting point is 00:44:45 because Jordan was cooking our ass. You was watching Michael? Everybody was watching Michael. Against the Knicks. You never watched Michael any other time? When the Knicks were out of it and remember that series, the Eastern Conference Files against the Pacers.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I'll watch that one. Listen. Yeah, I'm not, it's not even, LeBron Jordan debate is like so silly. But that's an interesting one. Why don't we do the LeBron Kobe debate? That's just, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And the reality of the situation is it's Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Steph Curry, Braun Magic Johnson, in that order. Whoa. Whoa. Why is that a woo?
Starting point is 00:45:22 I'm just surprised you put Steph over LeBron. I'm being put stuff. I used to have Steph number two. I knew, I knew somebody was going to throw Larry Bird in it. That Celtic documentary that Bill Simmons did is really good. Have you seen it yet? No. Yeah, I already know he's going to try to make Larry Bird look like God himself.
Starting point is 00:45:41 But who, who, when you say Over Bird, who? Who are we talking about? Chris yelled out of Overbird. And I'm not just saying it because he's a white guy. Why you even got to say that? I can hear people something. I'm saying this. We just talking about basketball.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Sixers fan who Bird destroyed. Yeah. I've never been more afraid of another player as a Sixers fan other than Jordan. Those were the two players I feared the most. But who would I put Bird over in that list? Steph, unfortunately. Nah. Bird's better.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Nah. You've never seen anything like Steph Curry. Have Steph... Has Steph done it without any help? That's the question. Bird didn't do it without no help. Of course he did. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Kevin McHale, Robin Parrish, Dennis Johnson, Brian Shaw. None of them would drip. They were dribbling like that. It's a very different time. What Byrd was doing was exceptional. I actually think that Bird was closer to Braun than any of them. Magic, man? No, because Magic couldn't shoot.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Bron can shoot. And Bird could shoot. He didn't have to that much. That's what they say. The bird was closer to a passer. Magic was a fantastic passer. Bird was close to him as a passer. Bird was an elite shooter.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Elite. All time. Magic was a mid. Steph Curry is the greatest shooter of all time. No, there's no question. And he could pass, too. Watch some bird mixtapes. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Steph Curry is the greatest shooter of all time. Larry Bird will tell you that. But can he do it by himself? And again, nobody can. We got to stop that too. Nobody can do it by the time. Actually, you know who can? His name is LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:47:11 LeBron James took a team of target employees to the NBA finals. The East was weak, though, back then. We're still talking about the NBA. Like, there's no such thing as, like, the whole division is the... Ah, the East was weak. The whole division. Week. The East was weaker than Magic Johnson's immune system ever was. Like back then? Magic got the greatest immune system of Lipsorty.
Starting point is 00:47:34 It's the strongest. He beat the AIDS. You're right. Maybe early on. They got to study magic. They got a study magic. Magic was a beast, bro. Magic went to the finals nine times and 13 years and won five. We don't give Magic Johnson the credit he deserves in no way, shape. But it is funny because when he goes nine times and wins five, he's looked at his great. When LeBron goes nine times and wins five, he's looked at someone who lost four. LeBron went to 11. And he won five.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Four. Four. He's four and seven in finals. Five, three, he's four and seven in the NBA finals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I think Bronn is great. I'm not going to say they're not going to say it and I think what the reason people don't appreciate Bron is because they're always comparing them the people that they shouldn't be comparing them to.
Starting point is 00:48:20 But Bron James, we've never seen anybody do what he's doing. this stage in his career. Put it this way. Let's just call it what it is. Nobody has been more afraid of a player than Michael Jordan. When you talk about past players, you have these conversations,
Starting point is 00:48:35 you see him on a basketball podcast. I forget exactly who it was. It was, oh, yeah, was Isaiah Ryder? J.R. Rider. J.R. Rider, right? And he was on somebody's spot. I think it was Garnett's pot. I forget exactly what it was.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And they were talking about how he used to have good games against Mike and he would do it quietly. He would never, like, ruffle any feathers. was like a rook on the team that said something, I think it was Garnett even said something like it was the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And he goes, in front of Jordan, he goes, that's what I'm talking about Ryder? Keep busting that motherfucker's ass. And Jordan just goes, oh, where? It's like that. And then Ryder goes to Jordan and goes, yo, he's a rook, man. He don't really know he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Jordan put the fucking clamps on him. And Ryder's telling the story. So nobody was more feared in terms of their dominance than Jordan. I haven't heard one of those stories about LeBron. Never. You know, the Nick Anderson's story with Michael,
Starting point is 00:49:25 Jordan is crazy. Michael Jordan comes back after retirement. He's wearing the 4-5. Nick Anderson or somebody's having a good game. And I think Nick says to Michael Jordan, 4-5 ain't 23. Next game, Michael comes out wearing the 23, I think drops like 55 points. Magic still going to win the series 4-2. They say that whole summer all Michael thought about was the fucking Orlando Magic. Came back the next year, swept him. Not only did he sweep him in game four, he gets filed with 44 points goes to the line, shoots one,
Starting point is 00:49:58 45, shoots the next one, misses it on purpose. Just so he could drop the 45. Just to have somebody say, tell him, point him, look up at the scoreboard.
Starting point is 00:50:06 So, come on, man. The closest thing that we have to Michael Jordan's Canda's Owens. What? I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:50:14 in terms of sheer dominance and fear, if you even do something so foolish as to piss off Candid's own, it is over for you, No, leave Candace the fuck. That's John Wick.
Starting point is 00:50:26 That's Debo. Leave Candace to fuck alone, okay? Candace got some shit coming. Damn, I don't even know if I... Tell me! Tell me! Yo, there's no... Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:35 She's talking about it already? Okay, okay. Okay, well, tell me. I got the emails. I didn't know she had already spoken about. Oh, tell me. But, yes, she's got this whole Weinstein that's expose coming.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Ooh. But this is what makes Candice so scary. From what I'm... From what I read in the email, ain't she on Weinstein side? You know how crazy you gotta be And fearless you gotta be To take that guy?
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yo, can I ask you all a question? All right, you know how Adrian Brody won the Oscar for Best Actor? Right? And like, obviously he's prolific. It's amazing. But who do he suck off? Yo, you ready for it?
Starting point is 00:51:09 Okay. His girl is Weinstein's ex-wife. And he's parading her around the Oscars. Like, why is she so comfortable in that space? I guess we can assume that like she knew nothing about. But like she does know. Like you're telling me
Starting point is 00:51:27 the life is complete compartmentalized. You don't know nothing that your husband is doing. You have children with that man. Like, because he's working all the time. Like a lot of that stuff was happening at a hotel and shit like that. Yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:51:39 But he probably got caught a couple of times. She don't give a fuck because she liked the lifestyle. And now she's walking around these circles with all these other women are there, younger women are there, that have probably been either propositions or at least,
Starting point is 00:51:53 made to feel uncomfortable by Weinstein and she gets to walk around with the guy who wins the award like nothing ever fucking happens. I don't think you can put that on it. It's like she ain't do it. It's not her. Just the hypothetical podcast. Yeah. We're just having a conversation about it.
Starting point is 00:52:06 It's like if for me at least, you just don't go. You're like, yeah, my presence might be a little uncomfortable because these people might think that I knew everything the wine scene was up to. And I definitely profited from everything that he did. But she's around there holding hands. looking beautiful. You think everyone knows them? Son, everybody knows all this shit.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I hate the fact that you think these Hollywood motherfuckers can keep secrets. No, they don't. I'm not talking about the wife. If she wasn't out there like that, you think they know that. Well, that's what I mean. Andrew's theory isn't wrong, but there could be a flip side to it. And the flip side is, I don't know anything.
Starting point is 00:52:41 But the reason I'm comfortable of walking around all these people because I ain't know shit. So, you know. So you married to the motherfucker? She's fine? She's beautiful. I can't see. I never seen.
Starting point is 00:52:50 All right. With all due respect. She looked better than Jalen Hearst? She looked better than kids. What? I can't believe I'm even saying. I can't believe I'm even saying. I can't believe I'm even admitting it, but she looks better than jail in her.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Soon as he says you're fine, Chris head popped up. Chris started going crazy on the foot boy. I know he's looking it up. He got to clear him. Oh, here you go. Look at Andrew and Brody. Look at that girl right there in the right there. It's very hard to look pretty standing next door ugly guy.
Starting point is 00:53:19 The article is blame his ex-wife, Georgina Chapman. click on that. Yeah. Man, usually a pretty woman make you look better. Like, nah. Not in the case of Harvey Wein. He is, he is, like, even if you do like him.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I don't know, like, even if it's consensual, it's like 10% just based on the way. Because you know she's not attracted to him physically. You know what I'm saying? Like, visually, I'm not giving you consent. Like, you could be closing your eyes, But the same of them eyes open, it's like, no. But it's financial consent only.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Right. My God. I guess. Georgina Chapman, what does they say? Making Bigger Taylor? Georgina Chapman broke her silent on ex-husband Harvey on Wyston earlier this week, denying any and all knowledge of the behavior he's accused of him and saying she's had what I thought was a very happy marriage.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Yeah, Anna Went Tollore wrote a defensive Chapman yesterday calling it wrong to blame her for Weinstein's alleged sexual misconduct. I agree with that. No, it's not her fault. It's definitely not her fault. Oh, and it's that several accusers are inclined to degree. I agree with that. She probably, you cannot blame her. She did not do any of these things.
Starting point is 00:54:30 But you could also go, hey, your presence might make people feel very uncomfortable in this setting where this guy was allegedly. No, convicted, right? He was convicted. Well, now they went back to the appeals court. They overturned it. And so they have to do the trial over. To do the whole thing. She's a victim, too, though.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I mean, she's the victim of infidelity. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. You can't really, you can't put that on her. She's not guilty, she's not guilty.
Starting point is 00:54:55 But she is going to be this reminder of this disgusting human being that terrorized people in industry. Yeah, but she can't wear that jacket. Like, there's nothing on her. It's almost like a basketball wife who they know the players out doing anything, but they enjoy the lifestyle, so they just gone. But what if that basketball player was raping with the girl? I'm trying to think about.
Starting point is 00:55:14 But you're judging her regardless. Look at her and then look at him. Like, everybody looked at her and was like, oh, she's definitely with him for the money. Yes. Yeah, she is... Harvey Weinstein don't bag something like that if he's not Harvey Weinstein.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Gold Digger. And I'm not even saying she's pretty because that ain't even my type. But like, you know. She's beautiful. Look at her, right? She's stunning.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I guess. And she got two kids with Harvey. God damn. Imagine making them. What was the problem with his speech that everybody was pissed off? I just went along.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Who watches the Oscars? I didn't even watch the Oscars. I didn't care less. The only thing I saw about the Oscars was just. Was the Conan O'Brien Drake joke? Oh, the online reaction of that? Somehow that shit came back to me.
Starting point is 00:55:58 What you mean? People blaming me for this shit. Why? I think Drake's fans were really upset, so then Kendrick fans were like, oh, so we allow jokes when Andrew Schultz says it about Kendrick, but when Conan says it about Drake,
Starting point is 00:56:11 now it's gone too far. By the way, that joke don't hit if it's not at the Oscars. Also, that joke wasn't even funny. But that's my point. It's shocking to hear the Oscars. That's what it was. Like, oh, shit, Conan O'Brien at the Oscars is even referencing Kendrick Lamar,
Starting point is 00:56:27 not like us in blatantly saying, hey, bring Kendrick got a time to call Drake a pedophile. Like, it's because of the context of what he said. It wasn't. It wasn't wild. It's just a bunch of white people in a room laughing so it looks like they know what's going on. Yeah. That's all it was. They're like, if we laugh, we look like we're informed.
Starting point is 00:56:45 We know about the beef. That joke don't hit nowhere but the Oscar. And it wasn't even a joke. It just says it was a shock in all. Hey, I bet you they're not going to be clapping if that same joke is made about Harvey Weinstein. Shut up. You don't think so? Let's hear it.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Well, we're halfway through the show, which means it's time for Kendrick Lamar to come out and call Drake a pedophile. What if he made the joke? Real quick, sorry. What if he made the joke? And now it's time for the Best Actress Award. What's it go? Best Actress Award. And we know for a fact that this person wasn't by Harvey Weinstein.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Like, unlike in the past, unlike past winners, we know for her. the fact this one wasn't by Harvey Weinstein. You think that they're clapping and cheers in that shit? Nah, but the internet, it'll rip. That one was gone. That shit will rip online. The room is going to be like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:36 But they're online? Oh, it'll rip. By the way, if Drake is an actual actor in Hollywood, this joke don't go over. Exactly. It's like rappers are kind of disposable to that crowd. Rappers don't care. That crowd don't care about rappers like that.
Starting point is 00:57:50 And they just all learned about this beef a couple weeks ago. Go out to Super Bowl. Yeah, they don't know. It's new to them right now. I'm telling you, it's like, it's going to be crazy if out of all of this, Conan O'Brien is the one who gets beat up for this. Out of all of this shit we've seen in the past year,
Starting point is 00:58:05 wouldn't it be crazy? If Conan O'Brien is the one who ends up getting hands put on them. So if top five puts hands on. You know what I'm saying? Baca has had a, yeah. Baca and top five, the next time Conan's in Toronto, they pull up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:18 You know, beat the brakes off him. A bunch of owls beating up on Fobhorn. laying horn. You're madge. You leave Conan alone. Jesus Christ. Leave Conan alone. What is the, oh, let's go to the Putin's whole thing. This is good. This is good.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Putin, I want to know what the short thinks about this. Talk to me. Oh, Jasmine. Thank you for making the back of my head famous. But second of all, if we could do a sequel, if you could tell Donald Trump anything tonight, what would you tell him I would tell him the girl is fine
Starting point is 00:58:57 and stop being Putin's hoe First of all thank you for me Let me say something Jesse Waters put the battery cables on this last night First of all I watch Fox News I watch everything right But if you watch Jesse Waters
Starting point is 00:59:14 Just for pure entertainment You're gonna laugh all this So I'm just watching for pure entertainment Right I wrote down all of this shit because I was, I text somebody last night just to fuck with them. I'm like, yo, because Jesse Waters said that,
Starting point is 00:59:28 uh, that, um, she should run for president, that Jasmine Crocker should run for president. He was being sarcastic. Yeah. But this is what, he did a montage yesterday.
Starting point is 00:59:40 The montage was, hold on, where's the montage? The montage was, uh, what the fuck? Uh, what did I,
Starting point is 00:59:52 did I text it to you, Chris? I texted you, right? He was a he did a whole montage on Fox News yesterday and it was, God damn, where is it? Okay. All right, so they did a montage.
Starting point is 01:00:10 They had my donkey of the day from yesterday morning where I was saying that the Democrats looked like they were playing pickleball. They all looked like a bunch of pickleball paddle polishes. So then he had Jasmine Dancing and Not Like Us, Hakeem Jeffrey's telling Democrats not to protest
Starting point is 01:00:26 Ayanna going at it with the congressman Stephen Colbert telling Dems to do something and Simone Sanders and Michael Steele clowning the Dems from last night and man I watched that montage and I said to myself I can totally see why this audience hates Democrats. Yeah. It's a sci-op. It's literally psychological operations
Starting point is 01:00:48 and none of the left networks do that. They don't. Not in that way. That's not true. You got to pull up the montage. It's a comedy bit. Yeah, the Daily Show, I think, is famous
Starting point is 01:01:04 for a position. But they're not left media. They're a comedy show. So they're supposed to do that. Sure, I think that those lines are blurred, but sure, sure, sure. Their lines are blurred because of how great John Stewart is. Yes. But I'm talking about the reason that things don't stick from CNN and MSNBC, because they're not doing that. I'm sitting there just watching. I'm sitting there just
Starting point is 01:01:22 watching it. I'm not going to lie. And I'm like, I can totally think why they look great. If that's the only thing you consume and all you see is like the most extreme versions of the left, that's we're going to think every Democrat is. Exactly. And it's, it's effective. And that's why John was so effective. I think he effectively positioned conservatives and right wing people in a way that was, you know, for lack of a better term, deplorable. Yes. Right. And he's just so prolific that he can do it really effectively. What I will say about
Starting point is 01:01:50 Jasmine, that's how I want to hear Democrats talk. You goddamn right. Like, I love that. Like, low-key, that is, it's sticky. It's also relatable. Like, Democrats, you've got to stop talking, like, these Ivy League weirdos who are careful about every single word they use. It's completely unrelatable.
Starting point is 01:02:06 A girl that talks like that, tell me that, you don't feel as a working-class American, which is who you really need to get back. Tell me you don't feel relatability to that. That's what you need to have on Flagrant. I would love that. You need to have Jasmine Crocant on Flaggart. And she might have the balls to actually. do it the rest of my pussy. She'll definitely do it. And you know what's so interesting. Jesse
Starting point is 01:02:24 Waters last night, he labeled her the face of the Democratic Party. And I know Jesse might have been being funny, but he's right. Let's go. Javan Crockett is the face of the Democratic Party. There is nobody other than AOC, I got to give AOC props because I like what she's doing right now. Other than AOC, there is nobody that's being objective about the bullshit coming from both sides and willing to talk like that from the Democratic Party. You need to talk like that. I disagree with the sentiment, but you need to talk like that. I don't think that she's right about the Putin's hoe. One of the tricky things about, like, litigating things in the public like this, like when you make a deal, right, when you make a deal for a house or whatever, you have to
Starting point is 01:03:08 present a price, knowing that the person that you're negotiating with is going to present a higher price and then you meet at the middle. In the middle of a public negotiation, like this Ukraine thing is, right? You can't be critical at the first price offer because the first price offer is really trying to get the offer from the opposition down. If you criticize the first price offer, you're actually hurting your bargaining power.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Now, I understand there's a lot of like currency and value and being critical of it. But this positioning of like, oh, he's being Putin's ho, I actually genuinely believe that Trump wants to end this fucking war. he just, it's done. No more bodies. Stop dying. And this is probably how it's going to end up happening, these border limits that they had just said before.
Starting point is 01:03:58 And it's very easy for us in America to be like, oh, yeah, let's keep funding it, watching thousands of fucking Ukrainians and Russians die every single day. I think we've got to be a little bit more concerned with, like, saving people's lives, than continuing a war that to us, because we are not Ukrainian or Russian, is senseless. So, yeah, I guess it's got, it's got to be true. I guess, of course, it's tricky for somebody like a Zelensky because ending the war, he don't really have the power to do that. Because Putin would have to end the war.
Starting point is 01:04:29 If Zelensky ends the war, then fucking Putin takes over his country. That's why you need us and Europe to negotiate with Putin. Like, Zelenskyy should really just be there. Here's the thing. If you can't defend your country by yourself, you're really not in the position to negotiate. That's true, but shit I still treat you like shit just because of that. It depends.
Starting point is 01:04:48 If you do what he did, then, yeah. Like, that was, that was incredibly disrespectful. Do we pay some bills and come back to this? Just for the sake of production on the pod? Yes, we do. I think we pay some bills and come back to this. I'll be right back. I'm peeing.
Starting point is 01:05:04 All right. Let's pay some bills and we'll come back with the Zelensky Trump talk. Church announcement show, see what we got? Life, baby. Life, baby. Life is out right now on Netflix. Let's go run it up, man. We got to chase down that Kate Hudson.
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Starting point is 01:06:16 And horrible decisions, No Holes Barred. Their book is also available for pre-order wherever you buy books. But I got to tell y'all, The third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival is happening Saturday, April 26th in Atlanta, Georgia at Pullman Yards. Yes, it is that time of year again. And tickets are on sale for that right now.
Starting point is 01:06:39 They went on sale last week, I believe. And we have a great, great lineup for you this year. We have the Trap Nerds podcast for all the gamers out there. You know, we usually have the Trap Nerds on site. And we have the gaming booth set up. and everybody be over there playing games with them, but they're actually going to be on stage of this year doing the Trap Nerds podcast live.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast will be out there live. Good Mom's Bad Choices. Let me tell you something. When I say women love Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast, they love that podcast because it's for all the women out there who are mothers who still want to have a life too. Mama got to have a life too, okay? So make sure you come to see them.
Starting point is 01:07:20 The Naked Sports Podcast with Carrie Champion will also be in. on that podcast stage live. Salute to the Good Sister Carrie champion. The R&B Money podcast with Tank and Jay Valentine. You always see their clips going viral. You watch a lot of the RMB Money podcast. You can see them live in Atlanta, Saturday, April 26th, Tank and Jay Valentine.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And Sarah Jake's Roberts will be there doing her Woman Evolved podcast live, okay? Oh, man. Listen, this is a lineup that I know for a fact is bringing a lot of women up. So guys, you know what to do. Saturday, April 26th, if you were in Atlanta, all the straight guys, okay, all the straight guys are welcome to, you know what I'm saying, but I'm just telling you that it's going to be a lot of women there, okay? And all the straight guys in Atlanta, all both of you, come out to the Black Effect Hot-Ass Summit. Third annual, baby, you know, and we're going to have the Black Effect marketplace again this year. You know,
Starting point is 01:08:21 We're going to have the food truck court. Nissan will be there with your pitch your podcast. Pitch your podcast booth again. So we'll see you, man. Saturday, April 26, third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. Go to blackeffect.com slash podcast festival. It sold out the last couple of years. God willing, we sell out again this year, man.
Starting point is 01:08:41 So we see you there. Let's get back to the show. Zelensky. Donald Trump. Thoughts. Let's play. You want to play it? Let's play it.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Taylor. You got it? Let's play it. The Al Green? No, no, no. Oh. When Zelensky and Trump was going at it. No.
Starting point is 01:09:00 When Zelensky and Trump was going at it. I don't like it, man. I don't like it. Cause it too much world instability. Okay. You know? Okay. I was watching Bill Maher.
Starting point is 01:09:14 I think it was the same week of the situation. And who was on there? It was Rahm Emanuel and the guy who used to have the show on CNN. Orreek Park. And I saw Rahm Emanuel on there, bro, talking this shit about, like, we need to get, he said a fire bar, I loved it.
Starting point is 01:09:29 He goes, we need to get, he was talking about the importance of, like, making sure you focus on school and education and grades. He goes, get out of the bathrooms and into the classrooms. In other words, like, leave the identity, politics, trans bathroom shit
Starting point is 01:09:42 and, like, make sure these kids are learning. But I also think when he was the ambassador of Tokyo, he was, like, specifically trying to get them to do, like, trans plays or some shit. That's what I'm saying. See, the thing about this, Democrats now, some of them you can't take serious. Because where was all of this common sense when it wasn't popular?
Starting point is 01:10:00 When it wasn't popular in your party. Like now that they see politically, it cost them, now they're all pivoted. So what are you doing? You're just playing politics. Exactly. What did you actually believe? Did you always think this shit was silly? So then say that so we could trust you.
Starting point is 01:10:15 But if you don't say it, it's going to be very difficult for us to trust you. I would love to see somebody go on TV and be like, look, man. finally. I can tell you what I really feel about this shit. Just say it. I know it wasn't good for us politically to say it, but now that we know how bad it costs us, I never was with that shit.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yo, we will trust that person. Yo, it's okay to admit you was wrong. But don't just pivot and act like you knew this all along. Not only is it okay to admit you're wrong. It is what allows us to connect to you. That's right. We will give you shit, of course, and you've got to go through a little shit.
Starting point is 01:10:52 But the fact that you acknowledge you're wrong will make me feel like you're a real human and I at the end of the day want to connect with a real fucking human. And I know everybody out there right now saying, well, Donald Trump never missed it he's wrong. The winner never has to. You're right.
Starting point is 01:11:06 The winner don't have to. The loser got to. The loser got to. The winner don't have to that they were wrong. It's a great distinction. They won't. It's a great distinction. So clearly what I'm doing is working.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Yeah. Let's play this, Taylor. This is Trump and Valenski in the Oval Office. It's in big trouble. Can I answer? No, no, you've done a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble.
Starting point is 01:11:26 I know. You're not winning. You're not winning this. You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us. Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of the war. We've been alone. And we are thankful. I said, thanks in this cabinet.
Starting point is 01:11:41 You haven't been alone. We gave you through this stupid president, $350 billion. We gave you military equipment. And you've met up brave, but they had to use our president. military if you didn't have our military equipment you invited me to have our military equipment this war would have been over in two weeks in three days i heard it from putton in three days this is something in two weeks of course yes it's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this i tell you just say thank you i said a lot of time's sacred to american people except that there are
Starting point is 01:12:16 disagreements and let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight it out in the American media when you're wrong. We know that you're wrong. But you see, I think it's good for the American people to see what's going on. I understand. I think it's very important. That's why I kept this going so long. This was interesting. Trump said the reason he wanted to do this out in the open because they've been having these conversations behind the scenes and it's been this. I don't believe that. I don't believe that either. I believe that this meeting was, sorry to cut you go. No, and he said he just wanted American people to see what was going on, just the world to see what what's going on because he's using the pressure of the media that makes Zelensky move.
Starting point is 01:12:50 So the way he wants him to move. That could be the case and you could be 100% right. And then that makes sense this meeting a little bit. What I thought this was was supposed to be a like a PR event. They had a mineral deal. They were going to come acknowledge a mineral deal. They're going to sign the mineral deal together. We have a big press event and it looks like we're in it to win it and we're locked in
Starting point is 01:13:10 arms and we're going to get some benefit out of all this money that we're putting into the Ukraine. And then it looked like Zelensky did a little bait and switch. Again, that could be wrong. It could be what you just proposed with Trump. But the way that I interpreted emotionally was Zelensky knew he wasn't going to sign that shit and used this as an opportunity to litigate in front of the American media. And it really backfired because the knee-jerk reaction, I think, from a lot of Americans, was like, yo, we're giving you all this money and you're kind of telling us what we can or can't do.
Starting point is 01:13:38 And then he says the wildest shit, which is you don't have to worry about it. but you in the future, you will have to worry about it. Meaning like... Somebody's going to invade America? It's like, yo... Which could be possible shows. Yeah, but you're not in the position to tell us what we should be afraid of when we're giving you money and we're giving you weapons.
Starting point is 01:13:58 China said this week they ready for whatever type of war America wants. Tariff war. The shit was actually kind of... It was actually really gang stuff. He said tariff war, this type of war. He said any type of war you want, we ready for. I don't know, bro. Every city got a China town.
Starting point is 01:14:21 China different. China different, bro. Well, all right, how are they different? China different because China different because the war that they're going to fight is not going to be a physical war. America's so easy to cripple. Yo, everybody in China, instead of fighting in a war, y'all get to move here and open dry cleaners.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Oh, my God. China, when y'all decide to attack us, just know it wasn't. me. I'm just saying. Get Schultz's Social Security number and all of that stuff. Wipe his bank account
Starting point is 01:14:49 clean. Yeah, yeah. But that's the type of shit they'll do. Banking, wake up, $0. Like, what? You know what I?
Starting point is 01:14:59 That's it. That's the type of shit trying to do. Man, I was watching Bill Maher one night. It wasn't this week I was talking about. The guy was talking about it was, I told you this, Chris.
Starting point is 01:15:07 It was Mo. That's his name, right? Max Brooks. Max Moe. Moe. Max Mo Brooks. It's Mel Brooks's son. He was saying how,
Starting point is 01:15:14 look, man. If they do things like, you know, privatized... The guy who wrote World War Z? Melbrook's son. Is that the guy World War Z? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, yo, if they do stuff like privatized the FAA and like, you know, somebody like,
Starting point is 01:15:27 they're going business with somebody like China for that. And then China puts all their malware and software on the planes. And then China's like, yo, we're about to invade Taiwan. And America's like, no, you're not. And then China's like, it would be a shame of a thousand planes just fell out the sky right now. It would be. That's the type of shit China going to do. Yo, we could do shit too.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Yeah. We could do shit that really affects them as well. But we don't need that. Say again? We don't need that. None of us need that, is my point. What do you mean? None of us need that.
Starting point is 01:15:54 None of us need it. The world does not need this kind of instability. And that was the other thing I was getting to when they was talking about on Bill Maher with Ron Manuel, they were saying that when you watch America and how they treat Ukraine, when you watch America and what they're saying, you know, how they're treating Canada. They're like, can our allies trust America? at this current moment. So they said, you're about to see
Starting point is 01:16:15 a whole bunch of nuclear proliferation. Is that the right word? Yeah. Nuclear proliferation all across the country, I mean, across the world, all of these countries
Starting point is 01:16:25 that did not have nuclear weapons are going to start building nuclear weapons and exploring more nuclear technology and the ones who do have them are going to have more just because they don't feel like they can trust America.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Yeah. We don't need that. Yeah. Yeah, making the nuke was the dumbest thing that we ever did. Oh, my God. Because it's the only thing that allows a small
Starting point is 01:16:43 country to have some level of equality. Like we would never even listen to fucking North Korea if they didn't have a nuke. But the fact that they do, now we got to kind of listen to what the fuck they're saying. If we didn't have nukes, it would really just be, I mean, it's already America, but like
Starting point is 01:16:59 no country would even be able to come close because you're not invading us. In order to invade us, you either got to come through Canada or Mexico. You're not. You've got to travel your entire army through the ocean. If you do even get through the ocean, we got two oceans. We got connected on both sides.
Starting point is 01:17:14 The middle of the country is all food. We could do whatever. It's like impossible to invade us. Yeah, but they would never do that. You think these countries haven't already invaded us? How they invade us? With all of this misinformation online? You don't think there's already a psychological war that's been happening, a digital war
Starting point is 01:17:32 that's been happening? Like, this is, China said it was prepared to fight any type of war with the U.S. If war is what the U.S. wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war, or any other type of war, we're ready to fight till the end. I hope you ready. You better be ready. You need to watch Lee the World Behind. Say again?
Starting point is 01:17:50 You need to watch Lead the World Behind. Why? Watch Lead the World Behind. Why? Watch it. But why? Have you seen Lee the World Behind? You never seen Lee the World Behind?
Starting point is 01:17:58 Have you seen Lee World Behind? You know who executive produced Lead the World Behind? Who? President Barack Obama. Oh, wait a minute. Is that the, it's a film? It's a film starring Oh God, the fuck is his name.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Yes, leave the world behind. Yeah, yeah. There's that big boat crash at the beginning and they're like out in the Hamptons or something like that. I watched it. I saw it. Three-step process, right? And it's a three-step process that refers to a hypothetical scenario where a catastrophic event unfolds, initially with a power outage,
Starting point is 01:18:31 followed by a breakdown of communication and finally a complete societal collapse. So basically, they show you in this movie how to destabilize the country. So the three steps, power outage. The story begins with a sudden and unexplained blackout across the East Coast, disrupting the lives of the characters at their vacation home. Communication breakdown. As the power outage persists, phone networks and internet access become unavailable, isolating the characters from the outside world and creating a sense of confusion and fear. Societalapse. With no information about the cause of the blackout of how to respond, anxieties escalate, potentially leading the widespread panic and breakdown of social order, leaving the characters to navigate the new reality on their own.
Starting point is 01:19:08 And we forget, at the end of that movie, they didn't show us this. But it was just civil unrest. Everybody just started storming the capital and storming their federal buildings in their respective cities. So we could do that same shit over there? No, we took each other out. I'm saying we could do that over there.
Starting point is 01:19:25 You think so? I think China's more disciplined than us, bro. You don't think that we could fuck some shit up in China, bro? Yes, 100%. But I think China's more disciplined than the fact that we as a nation are so divided that we would take each other out because we wouldn't know what the fuck is going on
Starting point is 01:19:41 And what do Americans love to do? What's that? Blame each other for you the problem. We could do the exact same thing over there. We could throw a whole bunch of Koreans in there. They have no fucking clue. The Koreans start attacking him starting down in breast. This is, this is, there's tons of the-
Starting point is 01:19:53 Korean-tell-Pro is crazy. Korean-Tel pro? Korean-Tal-Pro is Korean. See how it starts racist and then gets really historically accurate and cleverly. That's just a beautiful joke. Give us some time. You gotta give us some time.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Give us some time. No, but what I'm saying is we could pass, like, crazy legislation out there that would like cause unbelievable civil unrest and then there's nothing they could do about it they'd be fighting themselves for years we could make illegal and then literally two weeks later there'd be nothing but there would probably be a civil war out there but Chris what do you think of all of this Chris about what we're saying all of this yeah can't do to china what rush has done to us because China controls their state media and social media with an iron fist they're very aware of what social media you can do and that's why
Starting point is 01:20:41 why they control it and they don't like any story get out that they don't want to get out. So that's the big problem with China. In terms of Zelensky, you know, we're leaving out a lot of context. We brought up nuclear weapons. I mean, I believe at one point Ukraine was the third largest holder of nuclear weapons and Clinton convinced them to give it up, in turn, for promising support continuously. It's actually not completely true. What was it?
Starting point is 01:21:08 I don't know what that well. Because I thought that was the deal. I thought we like signed an actual agreement. And apparently we didn't even sign an agreement. And then it was wiped away by the next administration. So they gave up, they did give up nuclear weapons in 1990. They did give up nuclear weapons.
Starting point is 01:21:20 But like I understand Zelensky's concern that he voiced here. And I think it's a valid concern, which is. So Trump is basically saying this, hey, we got this deal with you for the next however many years for this mineral deal. And if we have a deal with you, it's in our best interest to make sure that nothing happens to your country. So that's going to give you protection. Now Zelensky's going, yeah,
Starting point is 01:21:40 But that's your administration. What if the next administration comes in and goes, I don't give a fuck about that mineral deal? Let's move. How do we get, like, actual assurances that we're going to be safe? I think that's a reasonable concern that should be negotiated behind closed doors, not in front of the American media. Can we add them both of that? Because one more thing. And it shouldn't be negotiated in front of the American media because it makes Zelensky look bad.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Not that, like, when I'm saying, when I'm being critical of Zelensky, I'm saying, I'm saying, like, as a leader, what he did was bad for his country and his cause because it limits and reduces American support. He did look ungrateful. And the average American with that knee-jerk emotional response to that goes, hold on, we've given this guy $300 billion and I can't even buy eggs. And he's telling us that we got to be worried about evasion. I will say there's context, right? Because I watched pretty much all of the press. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Zalinski didn't start doing that until Zalinski was trying to explain to them Putin hasn't honored any of these stuff He didn't honor the ceasefire Behind closed doors though Don't agree to come to the meeting That's just this PR event where you get to sign the deal And then before signing the deal
Starting point is 01:22:54 Start barking about how the deal doesn't work for you But I think he was simply trying to say What you just said How do I know Putin's going to agree to I'm saying I agree with his sentiment Yeah But do it behind closed doors But that was Trump, though.
Starting point is 01:23:09 That's Trump and... But he doesn't have to agree to it. He could be like, listen, I don't want to do this deal. I don't have no choice. You got me by the pussy. You've literally got me by the ball. Like, I don't know. My country is getting torn apart.
Starting point is 01:23:20 People are dying. I don't have a choice. If y'all cut off, you know, our resources as far as the military is concerned, we screw. Well, then what ended up happening? What I'm saying is it was a political miscalculation on his part. And you know that it's a political miscalculation
Starting point is 01:23:33 because Trump cut off the funding. I do think it's hard to play politics in a situation like that. I don't disagree. with you, but it's kind of hard. It's hard. I don't even know what that situation would be like, to be a leader of a country,
Starting point is 01:23:42 to have to go to somebody to get resources to continue to keep these people out of your motherfucking country. Like, I don't even know what that would feel like. It's easy to say how your temperament should be. But damn. Not that. You cannot do that. You have to be incredibly grateful
Starting point is 01:23:59 and you have to negotiate any of that part of the deal behind closed doors. And then if you don't have that deal ready to go, you can't go in front of the cameras. You got to say, I'm going to call the source, Mr. President, we're incredibly grateful. But then you got your president, then you got Trump saying, this is, this will make great TV. It's like, God, I don't know. People over here dying.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I don't know for a fact that he said that. Do you think Israel's been incredibly grateful for the money we continue to send? I mean, I would love to get into this conversation if, if you would like it. Let me hit the gone from the other side. Intern Dove. Because Netanyu comes to Congress and berates people. And what is this? I mean, this is you're making the best argument right now.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Now, what is the sentiment towards Israel and America? Well, depends who you ask, I guess. Come on, Chris. Be honest. Negative, it feels to me. That's right now. So, do you think that that is? But the money hasn't gotten turned off.
Starting point is 01:24:47 But do you, if the sentence, all it takes is enough sentiment and money goes. Nah, not for Israel. I don't think so. I think so. Not for Israel. The politics or a reflection? A hundred million dollars to keep. Yeah, not for politics or reflection of culture.
Starting point is 01:24:59 But to your point, that methodology, what he's doing and the confidence of what he's doing with, has turned off Americans, it hasn't turned on Americans. So clearly, that form of politics is not gaining American support for the Israeli cause. I think we can agree on that. On the far left, I think on the far right it has. Actually, I think the far right is also disillusioned by Israel. I think the only people that are supporting Israel are the neocons, and I don't consider them the far right. I consider them almost like the traditional right. The far right are the ones that are going, Israel did JFK. they're the ones that are going to kill JFK, Israel did 9-11, Israel controls the weather. That's the thing where it gets so far right that it almost comes back around to our left.
Starting point is 01:25:40 The point is, is... You're Rowling Michael Rapids who up right now. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, he knows. He deals with no motherfuckers every single day. So the point is, that form of politics is not being effective. And if I'm a leader of a country, what I want to do is, and I'm using a movie reference, please forgive me for this. But, like, there's that movie.
Starting point is 01:25:59 I forget exactly what it is where the leader. of, was it, I don't know if it's, I don't know if fuck it is, the, the king or something like that of England comes to America and like eats a hot dog. Right. Do you remember that movie? No. I forget. And it's basically like, how do I, how do I, an English person, convince America, a country of German and Italian immigrants to join and support us during World War II when we are fighting the Germans and the Italians? How do I get American sentiment for this cause? I have to meet them where they are, I have to make them feel like we connect and we're similar and our values are more connected than these Germans and these Italians. You see the glizzy? He gobbled that.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Damn. So what I'm saying is Lindsay got to suck it up when he comes here. He's got to do what he got to do. He's been so. Nah, baby. That was an ambush. That wasn't anything. All right. I mean, listen, I'm not saying that it potentially isn't an ambush, but there's a way to handle yourself in that ambush and it's not to essentially talk over and insult and then low-key, like, threaten what could happen to America in the future. I think it's, I think it's fair for us to sit here. Was that a threat, though? It's only a threat if he's threatening Ukraine. That's a warning. Okay, okay. Maybe the discussion is this. Maybe the discussion is this. Do you think he could have done it better in any way? Well, I think it's very, I don't subscribe to that he tried to hijack the moment. I think it was an
Starting point is 01:27:26 ambush. Okay. Let's say it was an ambush. Let's say. I got a thing about that. Do I think he could have tried to do it better than any way? Yeah, but I'll tell you why, because usually we see these things behind the scenes. You don't really see anybody kiss ass on camera. People try to avoid that. When you need something from somebody,
Starting point is 01:27:51 that's not what you want to show people on camera. It's like being in high school, right? Or being on social media. Me and you might be having a conversation, but then when you bring somebody else in, everybody starts performing. Charlie, man, let me just say. Shit like that should not be on camera.
Starting point is 01:28:06 If you give me $300 billion, you don't even need to get a bazillion wax the way I'm going to kiss your ass. It is, it is, the amount of ass kissing that you're going to get from me if you give me $300 billion. Would you suck the dick? Kissing ass is our ass.
Starting point is 01:28:22 That's it nothing. Listen, I'm deep throat, gobby, gisly, givisy goblin. I can't say I'm going to do that. On camera. Our whole country got to die. You got a daddy. My whole country got to die.
Starting point is 01:28:32 My whole country got to die. That's what I'm saying. My dad does have to mention it. He'll forget about it. But somebody's going to remind him every single day. And that is a problem. I don't need my dad learning every single day. And that's what Trump wanted is dick sucked in front of the world.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Yeah, but you're not in the position and not suck. Damn. It is, it is a... And now you know why. Harvey wants to think with Harvey Wander. Yes, that's right. Yes, that's exactly. Exactly. Now you know why he was able to get away with so much.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Turn the AC up, please. This is why he was able to have his way in Hollywood for so long because of this, because of that mentality. It's the truth, though. Nah, you're right. I think I agree with you. He should have did it behind closed doors. I think they were being hell of disrespectful to him even before the argument happened. Yeah, they don't respect them.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Yeah, like even the media guys talking about his outfit. and shit like that. I'm like, you got to, this is the president. But apparently they told him to wear a suit. Yes, but. And then he purposely doesn't wear a suit. It's just like everything is about pushing back. Everything is about, it's like, dude, you got to stop with the ego. You are asking for money. Your country cannot defend itself without our help. So you need to show a little bit of humility. And if it's wearing a suit in the Oval Office as requested, put, you wouldn't wear a suit for 300 billion to save the people of your country's lives? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but Trump made a little joke about it, but you saw how the media guy was, like, berating him.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Yeah. It just feels. It just feels weird. You shouldn't talk to any president like that. No, no. I agree with you. I understand what everybody in this room was saying. It just feels weird to have to play the game for something like this.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Yo, I agree. We're not talking about, like, I agree. I'm trying to sell a TV show. No, no. I agree. It just feels weird for somebody to have to pay. They wanted him to do the shit where, like, the rapper got to spit their out. They wanted him to dance on me.
Starting point is 01:30:28 The table. Yeah. Rap on the table. Yeah, man. And he was like, I don't want to do it. But remember. But why do they want him to do that? Because they want to sign him to a 360.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Yeah. They literally, like, they want the mineral rights. They want, like. So you don't think there's nothing to him being Putin's hoe? No, I genuinely do not believe that Trump is Putin's ho. What I do believe in it is concerning is that I think under, I think underestimating Putin is a foolish endeavor. So there is a version where Putin goes, this Zelensky guy is never going to quit.
Starting point is 01:31:02 I have to find a way to get in the good graces of Trump and make Zelensky look like a villain to the American people. So if I am kind and understanding to Trump and make it look like I will stop this war to Trump and give him hope, and then Zelensky will not acquiesce because Zelensky knows I actually really won't stop the war, Zalinski will fuck in front of the American people. The American people will sour on Zolinski. The money will stop going to Zolensky and then I can do whatever I want. The rest of it takes over.
Starting point is 01:31:32 That is, that is, but look what, in order to accomplish that, look what Putin has to do. Putin has to, I don't want to say suck Trump's dick, but he got to be sweet and like, yes, Trump, and you do control this. And we can't.
Starting point is 01:31:47 He got to bend over a little bit to Trump in order to accomplish the greater goal. Zelensky wasn't willing to bend over a little bit to accomplish the greater goal. And there's a reason why Putin's been in control of a country for fucking 30 years or whatever it is. And Zelensky is right now lost the support of the most important people to him on the planet,
Starting point is 01:32:07 which is the American backers. Are you letting somebody put the tip of their dick in your asshole? Four. To save your country? In front of people on camera. You got to let me just put the tip in. I think there's...
Starting point is 01:32:21 I might not go all the way. I'm going to put the tip of my... my dick in your ass. To save my country? A leader has to. Who are we at war against? China. It's this.
Starting point is 01:32:29 It's Zeletsky. We're talking about Zelensky Trump. It ain't Chinese doing the fucking. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it for Nigeria. I'll tell you that about you. Hey, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, yo, Lago's got this one, boy. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:32:46 I'm sorry. I go back to my point. I just don't think, I just feel like this is a weird. thing to do to somebody who's fighting for their country. Like, you don't want war, you don't want war, you want to keep things stable all across the world, this isn't
Starting point is 01:33:03 the way to do it. On either side. When did Dems become a warhol? Why is it the Republicans are trying to stop the war and Dems are like, no, we got to fight, we got to put fucking boots on a great, like, I don't want war. I don't want to support it. I don't want these people to be killed out there. I don't want to be
Starting point is 01:33:19 funding hundreds of billions of dollars into this place when Americans, can't afford eggs. If Americans can afford eggs and everybody in America got a PlayStation 5 and everybody could pay their rent and everybody could eat healthy, yeah, let's throw some bucks over there for Ukraine. I want to say something to American. Y'all got to stop with this egg shit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm going to tell you why. Don't do it now. I'm going to tell you why. You're disconnected. Because y'all motherfuckers be saying y'all can't afford eggs, but y'all can
Starting point is 01:33:45 afford the goddamn iPhone. iPhone announced some new shit today that's folding up. They got the new foldable iPhone. I bet you everybody going to have. have that motherfucker, you can go to the poorest communities in America and people got motherfucking iPhone. A lot of times they give it to you for free to get you in a contract. No, they didn't cut that out. Oh, there you don't? Free iPhones? They used to do the Obama phones back in the day. You only buy an iPhone once for the year or two. You buy eggs every day.
Starting point is 01:34:10 And by the way, I looked up the price of eggs. Where are they sky high at? No, that's a sky high at. No, that's crazy. It must be in New York because they're selling them Lucy's and bodega. I can still give me a dozen eggs in Jersey for $5. No. New York, you're looking at 14 for good ones. You're not getting, you're not getting eggs for $5. Those aren't eggs.
Starting point is 01:34:29 And you shouldn't be eating the $5. Yeah, that's not chicken eggs. You shouldn't be pasteurized. That's rat eggs. Yeah, that's rat eggs or something like other stuff. I don't know. I'm just saying, nah, I don't know. I'm just saying that like we spend a lot of money on a lot of shit, bro.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Yeah, let's be complaining about eggs. Hey, about it. Hey, I ain't never heard people love eggs this much. Yo, let's subsidize eggs. This is your awfulness. You're disconnected. No. You're too rich.
Starting point is 01:34:52 No, they're using eggs as a metaphor for food. They should just say the cost of groceries is high. Nah. Instead of just pinpoint eggs. Can I tell Democrats one thing that they should do right now? What? Democrats build a wall. Democrats need a slogan.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Build a wall was amazing because it encapsulated a lot of the frustration of the right, right? In one sentence, build a wall. See, I didn't know that was a record high. Eggs are a dollar. But look at that. U.S. egg prices hit a record high at $4.95. Democrats, say this. We're making eggs a dollar.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Eggs or dollar is your bill to wall. And I cannot, I cannot even tell you how many people are going to come in support of Democratic Party. If you go eggs or a dollar, the government's going to subsidize them like we do corn, like we do rice, like we do dairy. Eggs are a dollar. That's your question? Yeah. What was the price of the eggs before it hit this record high of $4.95? I don't buy groceries.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Me either. So why are we lying? That's my point. That's a woman. I don't even know. That's a woman. I didn't even know. I'm like, eggs is expensive.
Starting point is 01:35:51 That's what I'm trying to take. tell you, why are we lying? It's a woman's job. I don't know what the price of eggs for. These women are furious about the price of eggs, bro. I Google this. I'm like, what the fuck is the price of eggs? That's how I knew they were $4.95.
Starting point is 01:36:05 I'm like, $4.95 for $12, sound like a good deal. Clearly, that wasn't always the case. Go to Whole Foods, try to buy some eggs for $4.95. Why are you going to Whole Foods? Because it's down the block. What, hack me a fucking shopwright, uh, Wegmans. I don't know, you got to eat better. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:20 No, I'm saying. The quality. You gotta put good... I grew up fucking getting eggs right out the fucking pussy. Oh, I was fucking... But listen, all I'm simply saying is $4.95...
Starting point is 01:36:35 We spend... I agree with you. Dims need a slogan. Not only do Dems need a slogan. Dems need a fucking plan. Eggs are a dollar. And your plan is working class people. You need a help working class people.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Simple is that. Eggs are a dollar. We are building housing in every single city. in America, affordable housing in every single city in America. We are building it ourselves. What is going to be Republicans messaging in the next week? It can't be rough.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Yes. Well, what the Republicans are doing is they're going to kick out all the people that would build the affordable housing so they can't do it. That's genius. Not only that. Not only that, when you're putting tariffs on every motherfucking thing and causing the cost of basic daily goods to shoot up, groceries, gas, like, that's everything you said the Democrats was fucking up.
Starting point is 01:37:22 So when you do this, what's your messaging going to be in the next six months? I've actually, I'm curious about this because they have to live, they have to sleep in the bed that they make. So if their decisions with the terrorists and all these other things negatively impact the lives of working class citizens, the Democrats have an opportunity to, what is it, swoop in. No. Oh, God. Why? No. I'm going to tell you why.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Why? Republicans are playing a very interesting game because they're playing. It's like trying out a new offense because you know the other team's defense. That's right. Yo, that's a good ass point. I can fuck up. I can fumble. I know they can't recover the guy. That's a great ass point. I can try this person at this position. I can try this person in this position. We can just
Starting point is 01:38:02 fucking run through with them because they don't have no fucking... They don't even have one person to be president. Not one. The Democratic, next Democratic president also is going to be doing first take. How crazy is that? How crazy is that is that the next Democratic hopeful also got to wake up every morning and be like
Starting point is 01:38:18 LeBron's not as good as Jordan. Every single morning you got to do that shit. Man, I saw Bill Maher say that the next Democratic ticket. I don't know if he was being funny, but he had a real old breakdown about it during new rules. Boy, is it? John Federman and Pete Boo to Judge. That ain't going to do it, bro. That ain't going to do it.
Starting point is 01:38:37 And I like both in them. But who's president? John. John's the top of the ticket and Pete's the bottom. I'm not. He did. That's how he had it. No, no.
Starting point is 01:38:47 He had John at the top of the ticket and Pete at the bottom. I don't know. I think Stephen A got a chance, man. Man, no. No, Stephen A's the closest. And I didn't think so either, but he's the closest. But he just got $100 million from ESPN, so I don't know if that's going to happen. Listen, the Democrats are in such shambles, and I've said this a million times.
Starting point is 01:39:03 When it comes to the economy, the Republicans are going to fumble, it's inevitable. And any economists told us this. And according to Elon and according to Trump, they know it's going to be some despair. They've said it. Elon said it's going to be a hard period. Trump said it at the State of the Union other day. It's going to be... Tariffs are about...
Starting point is 01:39:21 making America rich again and making America great again. And it's happening and it will happen rather quickly. There'll be a little disturbance. But we're okay with that. It won't be much. But they're admitting that times are going to be super, super, super, super, super tough. So they're going to fumble. But the Democrats don't have anybody to recover the fucking both.
Starting point is 01:39:43 That is, and that's why you need that messaging and you need it now. You don't think if it gets bad enough, they don't even really need messaging. They just, they can win on change. No, because because we've already gone, we've already given Democrats the opportunity in the chance. What I think a more stable Republican would win over a Democrat in 2020. Give me a regular traditional conservative. I think they would win in 2020. I think if people are filling it in their pockets, they're going to just reject everything that this side is doing.
Starting point is 01:40:16 No, because it's too, it's enough. Well, the other one has to come with the right messaging. I think that his point is fucking genius. They can take the risks because the Democrats haven't offered up anything of value that's going to satisfy the desires
Starting point is 01:40:28 of the working class Americans. Until they do that, the Republicans take as many risks as they want. The second they do that, the Republicans got to tighten shit up. So I don't know why they're waiting so long. It seems so weird like the Democrats.
Starting point is 01:40:42 What do you mean waiting? I can't build what I don't have. You want me to build with, I don't have nothing. I don't have what anything to build. I got the game plan for them. What's the game plan? The new, new deal.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Okay. It's catchy. Got a slogan. What is it, though? Trump's stripping down every, you know, federal building, federal workers, firing people. We're going to follow the new deal of the 30s, which was, we're going to triple down on it. Which didn't actually work, but it did raise confidence and sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:12 People need jobs. There are no fucking jobs out there right now. And cutting jobs. Well, there's about to be a lot of fucking jobs. If you're kicking all these illegals out, you're going to have a lot of fucking jobs. Oh, you're not? I'm building robots. Say again?
Starting point is 01:41:24 I'm building fucking robots. I don't know if I was going to add a million federal jobs the next year. A million federal jobs. Good jobs. Health benefits, stability. You can plan for the future. You can build around it. You know, we're going to have you out there building construction.
Starting point is 01:41:44 We're going to have you cleaning up the highways, whatever it takes. You've got a federal job and it's not going anywhere. And you can bank on that. It's the new, new deal. Do you think people will have confidence in that if, like, you're saying during this administration, they could just fire anybody the moment they want? We're going to hire everybody back plus 10 times that. I don't, I think that's a great idea, Chris.
Starting point is 01:42:05 I just don't think people have confidence in Democrats in any way, shape, or form. They don't. And they actually do think that there's government inefficiency and bloat, and they want to mop that shit up. This is what they can't even capitalize on all Elon's fuckups. The fact that Elon's firing all of these people. people than having to rehire them. The fact that Elon is that Doge is struggling with errors and they're deleting billions
Starting point is 01:42:26 from their list of savings showing that those numbers were inflated. They've done polling on this and people still support Doge. It's the majority of the people that are still supporting Goge. You know why? Because they don't know how Doge is fucking up because Democrats don't know how to message it. The only people who know how much Doge is fucking up is the federal workers who've been getting five. You know what I would have did if I was the Democrats on at the state of the union? I would have went and got the federal workers who are MAGA.
Starting point is 01:42:52 The same ones who are going to these Republican town halls every day, I would have had them there in MAGA gear, and I would have let them be disruptive. I would have told them, hey, treat this like y'all been treating these Republican town halls. My favorite thing to watch nowadays is then Republican Town Halls. I love watching those Republican Town Halls because these are people who voted for Donald Trump, who voted for MAGA,
Starting point is 01:43:10 who are simply up there, upset, and expressing themselves to their local government officials. That's how democracy is supposed to work. So bring them into the fucking chamber of Congress while the president is there and say, tell him what you've been saying in these town halls for the past few weeks. Fuck all of that.
Starting point is 01:43:28 And now they're going to stop doing town halls because they keep going so bad. Well, Mike's not to them don't do that. First they said they were, but then they told them don't do that. That's what I would have done. Fuck all of that holding up the goddamn pickleball paddles and all that other stupid shit. By the way, because you know why?
Starting point is 01:43:41 Nobody wants to hear Democrats complain about Republicans. Just like nobody wants to hear Republicans complain about Democrats. Address problems, not the goddamn. opposition. Talk to be in my problems. Don't talk to be about the opposition. And people automatically think you're coming with bias. If I'm a Democrat, I don't need Democrats complaining about Republicans right now. The Republicans are complaining. I get exhausted now when I hear Trump be like, and this was really bad because of Biden and Biden was supposed to say, I don't care
Starting point is 01:44:07 about that. Yo, we're done with that. You're in the White House. That's right. Exactly. So we don't need to learn about Biden. We need you to address what I'm feeling right now. And we also need you to give us an ask an ear because I got to get home to my daughter immediately. Do we already do all the ads? Yeah. Yeah, I did a mom. That was brilliant at this political talk for the week. Okay?
Starting point is 01:44:22 We do that just for the right wing. News is on X. Right. Okay. You motherfuckers are hell too, goddamn by the way. If you pull a muscle, all of a sudden, you realize how often you use that muscle. So the bladder is exactly like that. When it's working well, we don't think about it.
Starting point is 01:44:48 But when it's not working properly, you're getting up at night, or in the cases of many men, you may have some leakage. If this is something that's affecting your quality of life, there are really good solutions these days. De Pen makes the guard in the shield. The shield would be if you have some leakage on occasion, if you have heavier leakage, you could use the guard. Let's do some asking idiots. Cachito Mixveth says, would you rather be a fraggle maggot in a maga rally or a mandingo at a day? Diddy party. Oh, easy call.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Easy call. Fraggle maggot at a Maga rally. You don't know I'm a fragel maggot. I'm surprised. Why? Why would I want to be a mandingo at a ditty party? You love dick, so... Why do I love this?
Starting point is 01:45:36 You always talking about how you want a big ditty thing. Yeah, yeah. You do have a dick fix. So fuck the thing to ditty party. You just saw mandigo. You wouldn't want that big dick at the digity ditty party. No. That's like having a fucking walking around
Starting point is 01:45:47 with a goddamn shakoodoo. board in your fucking pen. That's what she called. Sharkook a board and you're fucked. I don't think about it. You had a ditty party with that big shit swinging motherfuckers just grabbing it. Trying to take a little sample. No.
Starting point is 01:45:59 At the ditty party, you're Fleece Johnson. Nah. At least if I'm at a magor rally as a frugal maggot, I'm just there. And also your songs coming on, YMCA. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're right. It's a little bit more comfortable environment. I think Trump does that just to fucking see who's a frugal maggot at his god.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Oh. He does the YMCA and he jerks off two dicks. That's his way of fucking killing the Maga. Yeah. The Make America Gay Again Crowd. Because they're the Make America Gay against people. Yeah, yeah. That's Maga.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Right. Jesus Christ. You could be the Mandingo at the Diddy Party not do nothing. No, you can. The same way you could be the Craggo Maggot at the... No, you can. What will they try to do to you? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:46:40 They're going to be playing that shit like a flute. You know what I'm saying? You think you're just going to walk around that big ass dick of the ditty party? I can have fun thing? What you mean? What? Why do you think dick's a front for us? This shit is a burden.
Starting point is 01:46:53 This shit is a burden. What's another question? Abdon.c-a-a-a. This is a good one. What is the biggest lie you told yourself to sleep better at night? Yeah, she had an orgasm, but it was enjoyable the rest of the time. You got to stop. You're going to shit yourself one day, man.
Starting point is 01:47:12 One day. Kind of. I think if you lie to yourself, you can't sleep at night. I think that's why I wrote the book, Get On, as a die lying. Like, you have to tell yourself the truth. Live it's harsh. Even if you're looking at mirror after talking to your therapist and you've got to tell yourself the harsh truth
Starting point is 01:47:32 and you cry yourself to sleep, it is better than lying to yourself. I don't know anybody who's lying to themselves that sleeps good at night. I really don't. What are you talking about? Talk to me. Sociopath.
Starting point is 01:47:44 Morris Chestnight. What? He lies to himself? You lie to yourself about Morris Chestnut all the time. First of all, me looking like Morris Chestnut is subjective to anybody who doesn't have vision. The people with vision, it is an absolute fact. Morris Chestnut himself is perfect time to insert this clip. We can play this clip every episode.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Morris Chestnut himself on multiple occasions now, not even just the Jennifer Hudson show, has said he's gotten mistaken for me. So what do you want me to do? Charlomaine, the guy, thinks that people are mistaking him. for you. Charlemagne the guy posted this video on his Instagram pretending to be you. What do you think? The Charlemagne said that was him.
Starting point is 01:48:26 You know, I'm telling you, I was at a valet at a hotel. And one of the valet guys said, hey, Charlemagne, so, you know, it did happen. Okay, well, I don't believe it. And Charlemagne, if you don't stop wasting my time, posting it. What do you want me to do? That's just racist people that think all black people look.
Starting point is 01:48:42 No, these are people. When I'm out and about you. Even a bloke-clock is right two times ten. By the way, when I'm out and about some, Sometimes, girls will walk up to me and be like, I see it. I see it. And I'll be like, see what? I know what they already talk about. See what?
Starting point is 01:48:58 I see a little Morris in there, okay? That's enough for me. Except Curry, night night. Eric. Eric.G says, if I get to say one lie that is spoken into existence, who or what do you lie about? Hold on me read this. Oh, if you get to say one lie that is spoken into existence. exist.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Why does it got to be a lie, though? Something that's not true right now, and then it becomes true. So it's really just saying, what do you wish for? Yeah, what do I wish for? I know I'm, you know, I'm just going to sound corny and cliche than every fucking, you know, woman who's ever done Miss Universe such as shit. I really want world peace. I really truly wish that humans all across the planet could just be peaceful.
Starting point is 01:49:44 I wake up, I think about that a lot in the morning. up in the morning and I'm getting ready for work and I'm driving in the work. All I think about is, yo, today my life or somebody that I love's life or just somebody in the world's life is going to be disrupted by somebody who's waking up and choosing violence. Why? Like, yo, we got everything we need on this planet to succeed if all of us would just show each other love, peace, and have empathy. There's not a problem in this world we couldn't fix. If we all didn't wake up and choose peace and just have empathy for other people.
Starting point is 01:50:21 I don't know why folks do what they do. I don't know why folks have trillions of dollars already, billions of dollars already, and they just want more power and more money and just want to make more people's lives miserable. I don't know why that is.
Starting point is 01:50:33 It's weird to me. Yeah. Added to that, I wish Charlemagne was straight. No. Nope. He didn't help. I'm going to stay a little crooked. I'm going to stay just a little bit crooked.
Starting point is 01:50:51 What is one thing you want? What do you wish for? World peace is such a great one, man, because the downriver effects of that are phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you already said that one. I wish that people would argue with good feet. I feel like there's so many, yeah, it's like so many times these arguments are just about painting the opposition as evil when, like, behind closed doors, whenever you talk to these people, they're so reasonable.
Starting point is 01:51:24 And I just wish that if we argue with good faith, instead of trying to win, and I've been guilty of this, my life 100%, like, instead of trying to win, trying to understand, we could disagree on so much shit, but we could at least, like, enjoy each other's company. Yeah, man. And, yeah, that would be fine. I don't want to hear your biases. Yeah. I don't even really want, I just want you to be objective.
Starting point is 01:51:48 Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. I wish that sometimes we could see things without knowing who said it. Hey, that would change everything. If you could just see something and be like, oh, that's a great point. Oh, we shouldn't do that. Yeah. It's just like, Candace Owen said that.
Starting point is 01:52:03 You know what I mean? Or Jasmine Crockett. It wouldn't even matter. It's like, oh, that's just a good idea. Yeah. Why can't we just all embrace each other good ideas? And we dismiss things based on what people are. You're 100% right.
Starting point is 01:52:17 And I don't like that. I agree. All hard of it. Let's do one more tale. Let's scroll down. Let's go. We need a classic growing idiotous one. Keep going.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Unless you like down. Oh, shit. I don't know. I can't look at that up. Which one, Violin Garza? No, the wax situation. I got the wax. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Louis J. 22 says, you got the, you got it? Would Andrew get a wax if his vessel goes number one on Netflix? First of all, yeah, I've already gotten one. So, yeah, I would do it. I'm taking the top off right here is crazy, but I'm going to do it. He said he's got to- Alex. I'm going to let Andrew answer this.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Oh, yeah, 100%. Alex got the wax, baby. You said it'll be crazy after him. Now you. Full everything. Front the back? Front the back. Balls butthole?
Starting point is 01:53:07 Okay. Yeah. You were right. The top part here is the most painful, but you're smoothed. Hell, yeah. You've been touching them shit, right? Like, yeah. Like, you really touching them shit.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Cleaner, like. I don't know what it is. It's probably placebo, but you feel better now. I want to go back. Like, I got to wait about four to five weeks. I'm asking my wife yesterday, should I go back? Should I go back? She was like, hasn't been four weeks.
Starting point is 01:53:33 I'm looking at the calendar like, fuck, it hasn't been four weeks. I can't wait. Next time I go, I'm taking a shower. Good. Because I went fresh off work. I'm like, nope, not going to do that to her next time. Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:53:45 The lady that was doing it, she was working with you, though. Nah. That shit was vulnerable. Did you get hot? Like, you see, God's ego be so crazy. I know. I think she was flirting with you. She wasn't firm.
Starting point is 01:53:54 She was doing it. She was talking to you to keep your mind off the fucking pain. Yeah. She was, but then, like, out of nowhere, she brings up Valentine's Day and it's like, oh, what you do for Valentine's Day? Trying to see if I have a girl in her. She had her meeting in? Yes.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Like doing the joystick in guitar? Yeah. Oh, my God. That's what I'm saying. No, that's crazy. That's sexual arrest. What's your woman say, though? That's sexual abuse.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Talk about that. What's your woman say? Oh, no, I went there alone. No, no, no. I'm talking about after you sold it to her. I don't think I've ever... Oh, she liked it. She enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:54:24 That's why I'm... Really? Yeah. That's what I'm trying to tell guys, man. I watched you on the life picking shit out your teeth after you talking about, you know, your wife going down on you. Why do you want her to have to do that, so? That you're right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:54:41 I got to do it for her. Come on. Do it for her. We don't want to be in the weeds. Get rid of the weeds. I think I'm fine. You want your wife? wife to be able to see the forest, fuck the trees.
Starting point is 01:54:55 The forest is the trees. And the part. That's what happened. That's the problem right now. That's all right now, sir. If you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:55:09 If you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right to, it's the brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening.

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