The Brilliant Idiots - Lift Every Slave Ship

Episode Date: May 7, 2020

This week Charlamagne and Andrew discuss quarantined live shows, Joe Biden's black agenda, 50 Cent's comments about his son, People coming for Tyra Banks, The Last Dance doc, bombing comedians, and more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's so stupid. It's positively brilliant. Yep, Shalda Meenigna got. Andrew Schultz. We are the brilliant idiots back for another quarantine. God damn week of this motherfucking podcast. What's happening, Andrew? I'm chilling, man.

How are you, bro? I'm blessed black and highly favored, man. Yeah? Beards coming in. Beards coming in. I think I'm going to keep it, bro. You think you're going to keep it? I like it.

I'm going to keep it. It looks good. A duel call from London this. morning on the breakfast club said he'd been checking me out on my IG told me I'm looking handsome. Gay or straight? He was gay. So you know what matters if they're gay. Only matters when they're gay.

That's it, well. I don't give a fuck of a straight man called me handsome. Because guess what? If a scrape man calls me handsome, you're really gay. I don't got time for scare. I've got time for scare. Exactly. You think if a guy calls another guy handsome that that means they're gay?

I think they're gay. They just don't know it yet. But I think, I could see guys. and see them as handsome, right? Like, there's certain guys that are handsome. In conversation, right? Like, if you're talking, right, and you know, you're like, oh, that's a good looking guy.

But if you just are just randomly sipping your latte on the corner and you see a dude and you're like, wow, he's handsome. Yeah, I mean, I think he's, yeah, you had me a latte, bro. It's something there. I'm just saying, it's something there, like for you just to be, because that's like you're attracted to him. Can you admit that's kind of an attraction?

I would say there's a difference between, handsome in attraction. Talk to me. Because I find people good looking. Like I can say, oh, that person is good looking, right? Yeah. But you're not attracted to them. Like, certain women are attractive, but I'm not attracted to them.

Like, here's, per example, Jessica Chastain, do you know who she is? Never heard of her. But God damn it. She's like, she plays like to Save the Day woman in every movie. Like, she was in the movie where they got Bin Laden. She was a redhead. She's an interstellar. She's the reddish.

head. She's in Molly's game. She's the redhead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, black widows, call it Johansson. No, but sure. So she is beautiful. Like, she's just so beautiful. But her personality to me, in movies at least, I'm not like attracted to it. Jessica Chastin. I'm just personally not attracted to it. So I think the same can be true with guys. You could look at a guy, be like, wow, that guy's really handsome. But I'm not attracted to this personality. to him. Gay. You never found a dude.

You never found a dude to be attractive. No. I can give it up and say a guy's good-looking, you know what I mean? That's the same thing. What's the difference? But when I say things like that, I will mean it in like- Let your toxic masculinity go. I've said this conversation when I'm talking about guys,

but I say good-looking, but not in the sense of like I think he's attractive. Like, say if I'm talking about TV, right? And I'm talking about a show that I might be executive producing. I'm like, yo, that dude right there, you know, he's smart. Like, everything is the talent for us, right? He's smart, he's funny, yada, yada, yada, this and that. And he's good looking. Because that does matter, right?

But it's not like he's good, he's good looking like, oh, shit, I think that motherfucker fine. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if you know what you're saying. How can someone be good looking and not fine? You want a guy that's fine for the show that your executive producing. When you're casting one of your shows, right? And you want to lead male that gets all. the girls.

Yes. You want a guy that you're attracted to, that you would like to suck his dick. But you as a man can't say that. You can't say he's fine. You can't say you want to suck his dick. I definitely can't say that. You can't say that. But you got to be like someone who gets their dick sucked.

No, I say he's good looking. And you saying that he's good looking has to be based off the fact that you vetted it through all the women that work on the show. Why you need them to vet it? Why can't you just trust your gut, right? That's gay. That is absolutely gay. If you have a feeling in your stomach about a nigga, all right? Another man.

If you have a, oh, if you have a feeling in your stomach about another man. Right. Yeah, bro. Yeah, bro. You think that's gay. Gay. Gay, okay. Perfectly fine.

Perfectly fine to be gay, by the way. Okay. What is a guy that you think is attractive? And I think it's attractive. I don't think any guy is attractive. Okay, whatever word synonym you want to use for attractive. What is the guy that you think is good looking? Good looking?

Depends. Why am I calling him good looking? Name a good looking man. Why am I calling him good looking? Trace songs. Is Tray Song's good looking? Depends for what role. No, no.

The role of man in life. Is Tray's good looking? Taylor, is Tray's good looking? No, no, no, no. No, that's Taylor. Just you. If you had to define him as good looking or not. I have no idea.

I'm totally neutral on the situation. I'm being honest with you. I'm totally. I'm totally. Why are you scared, bro? I'm not scared. I'm just totally neutral on the situation. Morris chestnut.

Morris chestnut is a good looking guy because he looks like me. Exactly. So you just compliment yourself. And he does not look like you. Well, we look like each other. Nah. Let the record show Mars Chestnut.

You look like the chestnut that's been roasting on the open fire. Hey, some people like their chestnuts well done. Morris says. Easy. Easy who? Jeasy. Me and Gizi have been confused for each other.

Yeah. Now, true story. True story. Ion Levantzant at Tyler Perry's at Tyler Perry's studio grand opening. Yeah. Ion Levantzant ran up on Gizi and said something to Gizi. And then ran up on me later and said, I thought you was that other guy. I thought you was that other boy.

And who's Ion Levantzant? Who's that? Iyanla is, uh, fix my life. Ayonla Vanzan, fix my life. I don't know who that is. Well, she's rich it in both of us. Oh. That's always important.

Listen, let's get into some positively brilliant and let's get into some what a fucking idiot, man. What did you see this week that's positively brilliant? Um, man, I saw a few, I think, uh, Kim Jung-un faking his death to find out who the traders were in his circle was positively brilliant. This guy is... Come on. Give me this hot take. No. He faked his death. He faked his death to find out who the traitors were in his circle.

The motherfucker was out there celebrating when he died. Right? He was like, ooh, you were celebrating? All right. Adios. Okay? They never quite announced he died, though. Exactly.

But the people who thought that he was dead. And then he found out exactly who they were, who was celebrating his demise. He gets them the fuck out of here. That's nice, bro. The only person that looked happy when he died with his sister. He might have to get his sister out of here, bro. Real talk. Anyway, I thought that was positively brilliant, absolutely genius.

You know, you get to find out how people really feel about you when they think you're dead. Fake that death, man. I think we need to fake more deaths. I think it's a great idea. Why was Kim Jong-on on his Tupac Elvis Presley shit? Like, why would people even think that he would fake his death? Like, our, a better question,

nobody thought. Why when people thought he was dead when he put out the picture of him cutting the ribbon at whatever he was at, people was trying to figure out if it was doctored. Like, CNN did a whole segment on this. Like, why? Because he got the world shook. Well, Kim Jong-un is the goat. He got the world shook.

He got the world on a string. He's playing fucking yo-yo with the world. Whatever he does, everybody's there for it. Because the guy's unchained, man. That's fucking, yeah, dude, this Asian jango. This guy does not play around. He does whatever he wants to do.

But he can't, he's not a threat to any, he's not a threat to. America, at least. You think? Who knows? Now, I don't know. A few years on this podcast, you, matter of fact, you had me dressed up in a soldier outfit one time doing a sketch about Kim Jong-on because you said his fucking missiles

couldn't go anywhere. He was like, he's no threat to America. I don't think he's a threat to America. You actually called him pussy. I would never use those words for the great Kim Jong-un. That's a lie. That's a goddamn lie. Hey, you know what?

You know what? Maybe I got a call from the Supreme Leader and he told me not to put that sketch out. That's what happened. Why, tell me what's up with Kim Jong-un? Why is he such a threat? This guy, I don't know if he's a threat. I'll be honest.

I do not know if he's a threat. I have absolutely no clue. That being said, you got to put a little respect on his name, bro. What does he do this bad? What does he do this bad? Chris. Chris don't know.

Chris glasses are fogging up right now. Chris. Chris, answer the question, Chris. What is Kim Jong-on? He has an entire, he has an entire country. for you're pressed in various stages of starvation over the last 10 years, for starters. I mean, mad country starved, Chris. Come on, yo.

America about to be one of them. That's what I'm saying. You can't get fucking a beef patty at Wendy's. The shit about to be bad. Exactly. Dr. Claude Anderson, been talking about food shortages for years. This is another reason, Dr. Claude Anderson. Genius. How many French people do you know, man?

Ivana LeVoc, Dr. Claude Anderson, dude. Come hang out with the regular folks again. Claude's an OG. He's 85 years old. But yeah, it's going to be bad, bro. That's why I've been telling everybody, learn to live off the fucking land, man. And wouldn't it be something if, like,

the universe is really correcting itself, right? Like, the earth is correcting itself. It's healing itself. Wouldn't it be something if all the vegetarians were right? Why? And it ended up being a meat shortage. And we all had to eat vegetables, and then all of us ended up liking it

and never go back to meat ever again. Wouldn't that be something? But can you explain to me why there's a meat shortage? Like, what do cows don't die from coronavirus? What's the issue here? What's going on? I think it was something about a, and I correct me if I'm wrong, anybody who knows, but from what I was hearing, there was a coronavirus outbreak and a factory and the coronavirus workers. I mean, not the coronavirus workers. The meat factory workers wanted to stop working.

Right. But Trump signed some executive order to keep them all working, even though they all feel like they shouldn't be working. Let's go. You know? Let's go. I guess what they do is not like a job that anybody can do. Like it's not a job that you can just get rid of all the meat workers and then put some soldiers in there and they fucking, you know,

whatever they do to the meat, I don't, God damn. Right. You know? So that's what I've been told. So you're saying that's correct. Oh, by the way, not saying that I'm correct because I'm tired of y'all in our comments saying we don't know what the fuck we're talking about. This is the brilliant idiots podcast.

We're not here to make sense. All right. Anyway, that was my positively brilliant. What about you? What do you got? Positively brilliant this week for me was, Tori Lanes, partnering with YouTube to help artists monetize their shows from home. Okay.

Erica Badu also, even though she started this a few weeks ago, she launched her own live screen platform and she charges viewers between a dollar and $3 rather than using IG Live or YouTube or other, you know, traditional avenues that everybody is using. And it's so weird to me how we have such a double standard based on what social media tells us, based on what social media tells us, right? And this is what I mean by that. Eric, I do started that a few weeks ago, charging a dollar, three dollars. People go watch her, yada, yada, yada, people say it's brilliant. Tori Lane, even though he partnered with YouTube, you know, he's charging. People say he's brilliant. Teddy Riley, a couple weeks ago tried to tell

people like, look, we can do it on Instagram live, but let me. running it on my own website as well. Why can't we have our own platform? And because people were saying, nah, Teddy fucking up the fun. Or nah, you know, Teddy fucking up the verses. Nah, Teddy shouldn't be charging this and that, which he never said he was going to charge. He just said, yo, let's get it to bring it to my platform. People were killing them for it.

But when it's presented a different way and the way Tori and Eric are doing it, people are like, oh, well, that's the way for artists to make money while they're stuck in quarantine. You know, artists don't know when they're going to be able to get back on the road and do shows. so that's a way for them to, you know, monetize their shows from home. I think it's brilliant, you know. I don't know if I would necessarily pay to see somebody perform, but I do know if it was like, I would have definitely paid for some of the verses. I would have definitely pay for some of those.

I would definitely pay for Joe Scott and Erica Badoo this weekend. I would definitely have paid for Teddy Rowley and Babyface. What was, what was Tori doing on YouTube? Performing. So he was doing a live show. Doing a live show on stage. To nobody. No crowd.

No crowd. How was it? I'm curious. I mean, it looked okay. But listen, you got to think, right? Where the audience? We're just not there in the venue. Right, but there is value to that audience interaction, maybe less so in music, but you need it with stand-up. If I was a stand-up comedian and I was doing that, I would do a Bishop T.D. Jixie is doing right now.

Which is? Bishop T.D. Jake preaches to an empty church, but it's literally like maybe three people. Like I watch, I watch him every Sunday, but this Sunday, just since his top of the mind, I saw his wife was there, and it was like one other person there. All you really need is two people.

You know what I'm saying? But honestly, what Bishop T.D. Jake said is cool. Bishop D.J. said I never needed a crowd to work myself up. Right, because there's no reaction that is necessary to what he's saying. Shit. Better come with me to a black church.

Are you crazy? Right, but you don't need go on, child. Yes, you do. Hey, man, child. Yes, you do. You need people. Yes, yes, yes. You don't need that.

You don't need that. You need himself. Well, TDJs just proved you don't, right? It's not like he's got somebody working a buzzer that they press a button and you hear some old lady go, come on, child. Well, you got a few people there. It's just like you, right? You're a comedian. All you need is one person to laugh.

Well, and you're off to the races. We've been doing, we've been doing the, Like the weekly thing, I don't even have a name for right now. I need to get a name for it. But the thing basically you reposted, we've been doing every single week where we basically take a topic. You got some support for that, bro. I admire you, bro.

You sat in the fire, man. I admire you, bro. I love that. You sat in the fire for that one. I've taken heat for worse. I don't know. I give a fuck about that shit. Like, motherfuckers really mad at me

by how I feel about a presidential candidate. God damn. Am I not an American? Yeah. Do I not have the right to vote for who I want to vote for and decide who I want to vote for based off what interests they are presenting? And you're mad at me because Andrew gave an endorsement

of the motherfucker? Just because the endorsement didn't come in the way that you wanted to hear, right? You started it off by saying he beat a great president and you listed your reasons why. I thought it was hilarious. Thank you, man. What the fuck?

What the fuck? I thought it was hilarious. I thought it was fucking smart. How you mad at me? because I posted some shit that my guy who's a comedian created, and it was good. What the fuck? Take that shit to Joe Rogan's page. Joe posted it.

Yeah, they were loving it over there. That's what I'm saying. Two different worlds, right? All the fuckers is like, oh, one motherfucker told me, see, shit like this is going to help Donald Trump get reelected. I gave Donald Trump donkey of the day today. Donald Trump has his own donkey of the day intro. I post all kind of wild-ass Donald Trump memes and shit making jokes about Donald Trump.

So the one time the Democratic candidate gets some smoke, which wasn't the first time. I've posted shit about Joe Biden before. The one time he gets some smoke, y'all motherfuckers mad at me, and now I'm the one that's going to help get Donald Trump reelected. Well, how about this? Since I've given Donald Trump donkey today so much

and spoken out against him, if Joe Biden gets elected in November, do I get credit for Joe Biden getting elected? What the fuck is wrong with y'all? And I'll be honest, we flamed Trump in that thing, too. But nobody paid attention to. I thought so. We flamed.

You were comparing the two U.S. showing why there's so much alike, but actually Joe Biden just does what Trump does better. Exactly. But it's the same shit, stupid. I know, but the thing is they at least the way that we've been thinking about things is like, the way I go into any joke, right, is I don't think any joke should have a political party attached to it. I think you just do the joke based on what your gut tells you. And sometimes your gut tells you as liberal, sometimes it says a conservative, sometimes it says reasonable right in the middle. But I never decide. the political party of a joke before I go about it because I don't think you get that real thing that people

connect to. And the cool thing about the piece was that it connected to people on all sides of political spectrum because it connects to who you are as a person, not this political idea of who you are. I totally understand. It's like even like I'll put this under positively brilliant. Don Lemon, not his comments per se, but somebody took his comments about Donald Trump.

And put him under ether shit. And put him under ether with the pigeon from the fucking still. album and the hat cocked to the side from the stilomatic album. And so I put in the caption, The Dawn. Why? Because Nas always calls himself The Dawn. Nause has a song called The Don. To me, I like smart shit that connects so many different dots.

Yeah. That's it. It was well done. It was good. I don't even fuck with really Don Lemon was saying. Yeah. If I did, I would have posted that before they had to eat the shit to it. Also, he didn't say anything.

No, it was common sense. It was stating obvious. I didn't get, I didn't, I honestly didn't understand. what the hype was about it. You know what I'm saying? I really didn't. Like everybody was a fun piece. It was like a cool meme, a funny meme.

A meme can be funny regardless of political affiliation or having no political affiliation at all. And I know as we approach the election, people get riled up and they get so caught up in the emotions of these things. But if you are creating comedy content, you cannot be saddled to one side because then you give away the most valuable asset you have as a comedian, which is the element of surprise, right? If I know how you're going to.

to go with every single piece of content you put out there? Yeah. There's no surprise. You cannot be funny anymore. The biggest knock on SNL is we know where you're going to go with every single take. And the times that they catch us off guard were like, yo, that shit was fire. We didn't see that coming. That's why we get, you know, that's why so many of these talk show hosts nowadays.

It's like, eh, I know what your angle going to be. Every time, bro. Like, I like, I need, we know we know people on Fox going to go all the way. to the right. We know people on MSNBC, CNN or, you know, these late shows, they're going to go to the left. Who the fuck is in the gray area? Yo, you know the crazy thing, bro? Most people are in the gray area. Most people in the gray area. If you're being objective. No, no, I don't know shows. I don't think people, I think it's hard for people to be objective. Oh, oh, okay. Let me, let me back that statement up. I think most people, their internal monologue, who they are when they're

by themselves is, I hate the word moderate, because I don't feel like I'm moderate. I don't think you're moderate, I think we're reasonable. The word moderate sucks, but like, I think most people are in that gray area, right? They're in the middle, right? And then one or two issues pulls them to one side. But most people are operating right here. Some people go, you know what? I really care about the black experience here in America and I'm going to vote for the person that is offering the best possible solution to all the black problems that exist right now. If that's on the right, for that's on the left, boom, I'm voting for that person, right? Jews people might do the exact same thing. Some person

might really feel strongly about abortion. And they go, you know what? I don't believe in abortion and I'm going to vote Republican because they tend to not believe in having abortion being legal. But realistically, all my other shit is kind of liberal. But it's a single issue that poses aside. So when the rest of the time we're just having conversations,

it's mostly gray. Most people are in the gray. I like the word reasonable over moderate. Yeah. I love the fact that to be reasonable is in the gray area. I love the fact that, you know, I like, I like to have, I like to leave reasonable doubt for things. You know what I'm saying? And you know what else was black and white? Or was actually gray? The reasonable doubt album cover by Jay-Oh, ho. Oh, I see what you did there, bro. So to me, to me, it all makes perfect sense. You know what I mean? I see that. I want to say, you know who else I think it's positively brilliant. Go. I think I think what Diddy did last week is

positively brilliant. I think him saying that the black vote ain't free. And you know, him saying that, you know, somebody has to come with a real black agenda and him saying that he's going to hold the vote hostage. I think we talked about this last week. Yeah, you said that last week, I think. Okay. Well, the reason I'm saying, I'm giving him positively brilliant now is because on Monday, Joe Biden released a black agenda called the Lift Every Voice, Black Agenda, which is named after the Black Negro

spiritual anthem. Lift every voice. You know, a lot of white people are like, aren't they loud enough? Good, but good. Being loud is what caused Joe Biden to put that motherfucking agenda out there. 100%.

100%. I like the fact that Simone Sanders said, you know, this agenda is, I don't know if she said it or Biden said it, but they said that it's a living agenda, meaning that, you know, it's still room for negotiation. Like, it's still things to be added to it.

You know what I mean? And listen, as I told y'all, there's nothing irresponsible about demanding something for your vote. And now Joe Biden put something on the table. And, you know, it's up for review. You know, I have thoughts on it. You know, it's things that I like in it. It's things that I don't like in it. You know, my initial thoughts are it's more the same old, same old, you know,

especially the same old same old we hear from established Democrats, establishment Democrats. You know what I'm saying? Like they write these proposals and they identified a problem using the word African-American are black. And then they start talking these a rising tide, lift all boats, policies, you know what I mean? That's what they should have called it.

They actually should have called the policy a lift every boat, or lift every slave ship. Lift every slave ship would have been good. Lift every slave ship would have been good. A rising tide lifts all boats. Yeah, I mean, that's when they hit you, which was always Joe Biden's thing.

Joe Biden used to always say that, you know, you know what y'all got to do next time somebody, next time one of these white politicians goes, listen, we have to rise the tide. You got to be like, listen, we're not that good of swimming. Okay, can you keep the tide low? They don't say it like that. What they say is they'll say things like an American agenda is a black agenda,

which we know just isn't the case. That's not reality. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like the trickle-down economics thing. That shit is not coming to the hood. Never has, never will. I understand what you're saying. There are other people that are going to get at first.

Obviously, there is a trickle-down effect by being in America. Like, being black in America is better than being, being fucking, I don't know, black in war-torn Congo, right? So there is a trickle-down effect to being in America. The problem is, is that historically black people have been on the bottom of that trickle. So there's all these other groups that are getting that way before. So it's like, how do you, how do you redistribute the trickle? If you have created, let's not act like what happened to black people in America wasn't intentional. Let's not act like it wasn't by design. So if you had, if you had systemic things that were done intentionally

to put people in those conditions, you got to do systemic things to get them out. It's really just that simple. That's why even with Joe Biden's black agenda, like the criminal justice reform is weak, especially for somebody who wrote the 94 crime bill. Like you got to atone for that 94 crime bill by coming with a better criminal justice agenda.

And the economic plan is cool, but it's cool for black people who already got a little money. You know what I'm saying? Like if you say you want to advance the economic, mobility of black people and close the racial, you know, wealth and income gap by investing in black workers, businesses, and communities, that's great. Like, you say you want to expand black homeownership and wealth building great, but we also have to remember you can't small business homeownership your way out of poverty because most people don't have the capital to get

started. Right. Understand what I'm saying? So like, that shit works for me. You know what I'm saying? I can take advantage of that shit, but the everyday person working in the hood, they can't. You know, it's just like of your staff, how many people are black? My staff? Yeah. Everybody except for two. So you could are...

It depends what you call. What do you call staff? Like, you can be my personal employees. Yeah. Like, right? People who, your team, I mean, from what I've seen, you have a lot of black people on your team.

Yeah. Right? So maybe helping a guy like you actually does create a trickle-down effect directly to your community. Nobody else is siphing off that trickle because it's like, okay, boom, I'm going to help this small business that Charlemagne's going to open. And, you know, he's going to open it amongst Scorn in South Carolina

where he's actually going to end up employing 80% black people and then those black people now have jobs and they can potentially start their own business. So maybe this like, maybe this infusion and capital in the business savvy people of a community is actually the best thing you could do to a community instead of just giving everybody in the community the stimulus. check and they don't really know how to reinvest that in a way that's going to help them for future generations. Like what I would do is I would give money to the people that know what they're fucking doing. Um, I would do that. I think that's one way. I'm not mad at that. You know what I said, I'm going to stop. I'm going to stop. Because you're living, you're living, you're living proof of

the actions, right? It's like you, if the government basically said, yo, Charlotte, I mean, you don't got to pay taxes this year. But you know what you got to do with that money is start another business. By osmosis, you're going to hire black people because that's, who, who's around you. Yeah, but, you know, it still won't be enough, though. You know what I'm saying? It's a start. It's a push, right?

But, I mean, that's, but by the way, that's happening. If, if guys like me do what they're supposed to do and take advantage of these, you know, small business initiatives and stuff like that, that's already happening. But I'm talking about those people on the ground, right? Like, Mayor Bloomberg had something in his Greenwood initiative where he wanted to put $70 billion in the most poor and disenfranchised hoods across America, like the top 10 most poor and disenfranchised.

franchise hoods, right? Like, to me, I like stuff like that. I'm going to stop putting a dollar amount on those type of things only because I don't want to, you know, undercut us. But, yes, there should be billions of dollars invested in hoods all across America. Like, it should go to improve in public schools. It should go to improving hospitals. It should go to improving housing because we all know environment, you know, a good environment automatically improves the kids mental and emotional health. Like, it should go to, you know, good health care. You know what I'm saying? It should go to after school. programs, like free trade school in the hood.

You know what I mean? Let people learn how to do things with their hands. So now these kids, not only can they go make a living, they can rebuild their fucking neighborhoods because you got electricians over here and air conditioning people over here and carpenters over here. Like, it's a lot of different ways. So let me throw something by you, right? We've heard of these programs that have been put in these poor communities and to hopefully uplift these poor communities.

It's not the first time the money has been put into the hood, right? Um, yeah, it depends. I mean, we can look at Barack Obama had certain programs and like plenty of other presidents have had certain programs and mayors and governors have had programs to uplift poor communities, not just black communities, but just poor communities in general, right? In black communities, and I'm sure it's the same as in Russian communities and other kind of new other poor maybe communities where there's like new immigrants, et cetera. I'm sure there are people who are like leading industry within the poor community, right?

and who are trying to rebuild that community. Like there's the guy in Houston. What's his name? Absolutely. Slim thug, is that it? I mean, there's a lot of them doing that in Houston. You got Slim Thug. Trade the truth?

Trade of truth. You got guys like Jay Prince, like all those brothers in Houston investing. And those are just the entertainers. No, no. There's people that do that work for a living all the time. I'm just going off to entertainers because that's what I know, right?

Yeah, yeah. So if I got money, I could give it to the government, right? Who's maybe, if I have government money, I could give it to government officials who are maybe not the most, efficient with their spending, right? Because oftentimes you don't have the best businessman or most intelligent people in those government positions because you can't profit that much. Or I could go to someone who's already functioning super well within that community and already has a profitable business within that community. And I could give them an influx of cash. And I could go,

what would you do with this money? How can we support you? And, hey, use this money to actually have a profitable business that you're going to then hire people. and you're going to help grow. Like, to me, I'm going, what does Nipsey hustle doing in his community? All right, let's invest in Nipsey. Let's invest in the guys that are already in those communities who understand how those communities function,

not some white stiff who's on fucking Capitol Hill and then is going to go to Compton and know exactly what Compton needs as far as a business. No, go to the community, ask them what they need, what's going to work, what's going to function? And those businesses will be supported because the community already supports those people. I'm not mad at any of that.

You know what I'm saying? That's like a good example of that is in Joe Biden's black agenda. He has this proposal for like a $900 million over eight year grant program to fight gun violence, right? Okay. I don't even know what the fuck that means.

All right. I'm like, I'm like, how does that reduce gun violence? I would rather figure out ways to directly put that money in the hands of the people, create opportunities for them. That's how you reduce gun violence. You reduce gun violence by reducing power fucking tea. Okay.

That's how you reduce gun violence. So give these kids an opportunity to do something positive with themselves. Like that's why I said invest the money into schools, man. Invest the money into aftercare programs. Invest the money in the free trade school. Invest the money in just the environment. My fucking fix the fucking projects up. You know what I'm saying?

Make these people's places that they live in look fucking decent. So their mind state starts to change. If you put a fucking human being in a shitty condition, his mind is going to be shitty. He's going to feel like a fucking. animal or she's going to feel like a fucking animal or a savage. She's going to feel downtrodden. She's going to feel like fucking shit. We just out here.

You know what I mean? Like this is we, it's garbage all around us. So shit, that's life. That's all they know. Like, no, man,

give people something to fucking inspire to, bro. Like, yeah, I like that, man. I like the idea of like fixing the community, but I like the idea of hiring people within the community to fix

a community. Right? I agree with that. The only problem I have with that, it's not even a problem. I just think that, like promising black folks that they will rise via black capitalism through small businesses,

through education, through home ownership. That isn't everybody's reality. By the way, that's nobody's reality in America. Black are white. Like the U.S. is not driven through small business economy. And we exaggerate the return on investment when it comes to education. Okay?

And home ownership is- I disagree with you on that. I'll push back by education. Yeah. I think it's the fastest way, I think it's the fastest way to, is the fastest way for class mobility, meaning is the fastest way to go from,

let's say, middle class to upper middle class or lower class to middle class, the fastest way that you could possibly do that and you can do it within one generation is by education. So you're telling me that all of these kids that have degrees out here right now that can't find a job.

They have to continue their education. Don't get a degree, don't get a degree in poetry. Don't get a degree in engineering. Don't get a degree in engineering. You will have a job. You'll up your stats. That's the thing that people thought is like, they think they just go to college

and they study history and all of a sudden they're going to have a real job. And no bullshit. If you do study history, you could get a job teaching. You could get a real job. I don't know if it's going to increase your class, but you can choose when you go get your education

to study engineering, and you'll have a job when you come out of college without a doubt. I think that's what we have to start saying and when we talk about education. Speak on it. It's about what you major in. Now, by you, I didn't go to college

and don't listen to fucking me. This is pure brilliant idiot logic. You majored in radio. And now what happened? I did. I did. You're right. But like you're going to be a doctor.

You know, something in the medical field, you're going to make some money. You're going to get a job. All right. You do something in engineering. You're going to make some money. You're going to get a job. You're becoming an attorney. You're probably going to make some money.

You're going to get a job. Like stuff like that. Bro, literally your counselor. Because I know we live in like this individualistic society where we tell kids like, do whatever makes you feel good. And I do believe that if you have the opportunity to do whatever makes you feel good. But you, you, you know, Your college counselor should tell you, hey, these are the jobs that America thinks they're going to need in four years.

They're in these fields and these are the schools that have openings in these fields that fit the grades that you have. Do you want a guaranteed job making 60 grand a year the second you get out of college or 80 grand year, whatever some engineers make? Do you want that? Yes, I'd like that. That's what you study. You're out of poverty. Because right now you would be pushing kids towards the tech world, right? 100%. That's what you did, Al? That's what Al did.

What Al do? Al did every fucking job. He's like Forrest Gump. But he was a nurse. He did psych. Well, you did psychology? Psychology. And then there was one other thing.

Oh, he became a cop. You was a cop, Alex? Yeah, bro. Alex, we need you back on the police force. Especially in New York City. You see how these fuck? Yeah, you got fucking Garcia's beating the shit out of people. What is the Garcia?

Is that Mexican, that Spanish, Puerto Rican? What the fuck is a Garcia? What is Fernando? Fernando Garcia. What is that? That sounds Mexican. That shit could be Filipino. Y'all don't claim him.

But, no, I get what you said. I don't, I don't want us to, even homeownership, like that's not the only path to wealth either. You know what I'm saying? Totally true. That's not the only path to wealth. So it's solid for people who already have a little something, but you know what?

You know what homeownership is good for? It's good for guys like me and you that, and don't let me speak on your behalf, but you and I, I assume, don't really understand. the financial markets, right, to the point where we're willing to dump hundreds of thousands of dollars in there, right? That's why I got a financial guy.

Now you have a financial guy. But like a guy like me and you who understands our craft and has disposal income because of our craft, we also understand the concept of if I buy that home, it's going to probably increase in value over the next 10, 20 years. And I'm already paying rent anyway, so I might as well pay a mortgage. That's simple enough for us. Simple. whether we're...

And even if it doesn't increase in value, I'm paying it out. I'll get my money back. Yeah, I'll get my money back or something. That's it. That's the least I got a house. That's it. I'm going to have to pay rent regardless.

I might as well pay mortgage. And then I get to own it after. Boom, I'm good. It's the simplest form of investment. Now, if you... I honestly, I'm ignorant when it comes to investing in the stock market. I don't know what a fucking Vanguard account is,

a VTX, this, a dad, a Berkshire hat the way. I don't really know that much. So if someone's telling me, hey, Schultz, give me $100,000 and I'll put it in the market. I'm skeptical of that. I'm like, what does that mean you're going to put in the market?

Yeah, I'm going to be honest with you. I did that a few weeks ago. And I check it every night. I don't know why. Because you're paranoid being. You're like, oh, they wanted away with it? Well, I did an SMP 500. So it's like a very diversified portfolio.

So it's like investments in a lot of different things. But for me, it's like my guy told me to look at that and walk away, bro. Yep. That's 15 years, 30 years down the line. Don't even worry about it. Why am I going on to look at it every night? I don't fucking. Because you don't trust that shit, fam.

It's like, look, hey, listen, give me your money and walk away. Isn't that every robbery? That's literally the beginning and end of every robbery. Give me your money. Now walk away. Okay. You walk, walk away. Yeah.

No, you're right. You're absolutely right. But I will say, that's a couple of weeks, that shit went up. Right. I was like, oh, shit. You probably did the right thing. I think there, I think some people say that the most money is going to be made. The biggest transfer of wealth always happens during economic crisis.

Everything. And it's sad. But once again, that's fucked up. I think Chris, this article. I meant to send it to you too. It was this article about this woman. I forgot what she's from, but she has been predicting shit like this for years. Like she predicted, and she's not like a psychic.

She's something else, but she predicted like the coronavirus and this and that. Right. And she said what's going to come next is one of the things is a lot of people who are already rich I'm going to come out of this situation even richer. Yes. Right? But that gap between the halves and the have-nots is going to be even wider. Yep.

And even worse. Yep. And that's when the civil unrest is going to motherfucking start. Yep. I can see that coming a mile of fucking way. Like a lot of that shit is just like common sense. But you can just see it coming a mile away, man. I just, listen, like I said,

Biden's economic plan isn't bad, but it's not for people who don't have. It's for people who have, you know, a little bit of something that can afford to invest in those type of things. Because like for me, like when it comes, like even with homeownership, like, no, I got to see, you know, you got to provide down payment assistance. Yep. You got to get black folks. Yeah, you got to get black folks banked and recognized by credit scoring companies. You got to enforce fair lending laws. You got to reduce forecloses and evictions for motherfuckers that's fucked up now.

And you got to increase the supply of affordable housing. How about that? Like I love what Queen Latifah's doing in Newark. Queen Latifah's building like 14 affordable houses in Newark. You know what I'm saying? Like that's the type of shit you have to do if you really are trying to help people come up in the world. And I still, I believe in like a universal basic income. But I was talking to a brother who doesn't believe in universal basic income.

And he had another way to get that kind of money to people, which I thought was smart. And I'm too dumb to repeat. You believe in universal basic income? I believe that if we can have, you know, $1.8 trillion stimulus packages or whatever the fuck it is. Right. Yes, I do believe that you can give people a little hands up. I definitely believe that.

Well, that's different. So universal basic income is different than giving people a hand up. Universal basic income is like $1,000 every month for every American citizen. Right. Right. So you're not really giving people a hand up if everybody gets it. Because now everybody's hand is at the same height again. Well, as long as there's no inflation. Well, if you don't change anything in the economy, like in the market,

like if you don't change anything in the market and you keep everything the way that it is. Right. And you give everybody $1,000, that's going to get the economy. Boom. And if you get everybody $1,000 a month, disposable income? Yeah, but what usually will happen is I guess the way economies work from, what I've been reading about it is inflation happens when there's too much money and not enough things to buy. And by increasing the amount of money without increasing the amount of things

to buy, money could start to become less valuable. Right. So like if you look at like the fall of empires, usually the fall of empires happens when one, they're in nonstop wars, which is kind of what we're going through. And two, when they start inflating their own money, just printing money to pay for those wars. So the universal basic income thing, it sounds good. But in reality, I don't think it works, man. I think you just, people end up being in the same place that they were. It's like, oh, now everybody has another $1,000. Okay, well, rent ends up being $1,000 more.

Now we're all back to even. I will say this, though. This is America. In America, there is an endless supply of useless shit to buy, bro. Yeah, fair enough. This is the country that sold the Chia Pet. Yeah. What the fuck?

Why the fuck would we ever buy a goddamn Chia Pet? This is the country that bought, Remember them little sea monkeys you could buy and put in the water? Yeah. And they would tell, like, what the fuck was that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, man. Like, long story short, I give Diddy props because Diddy,

he put a microphone to a conversation that's been going on for the past year and some change. And look, man, if motherfuckers want to play ball, they got to play ball. It's all about negotiating, maybe. And you know what? Maybe it's important that, like, people connect those two things. because I think it's too easy to go Ah, fuck Diddy for saying that, fuck him And then a couple weeks later

You actually have a black agenda from Biden Less than a week Yeah, week later you have a black agenda from Biden And then people might just forget That what Diddy said or what you were saying What other people were saying inspired it If you connect both of those things Then maybe people will start to speak out more

Beas they're like, oh shit, when I speak out, I'm heard You know what I'm saying? Listen, man Shalomain to God I want y'all to write this down Yeah you get what you demand, you encourage what you tolerate.

Simple as that. You get what you demand, you encourage what you tolerate. If you don't say shit, you're going to keep getting exactly what the fuck you've been getting all of these years, which is shit.

Because clearly you're tolerating it. You know what I mean? When you tell a motherfucker to back up off you or there might be some consequences and repercussions, then a motherfucker probably going back up off you. Right. At least enough to see if you've really

about that shit you kick it. And then when he realized you're about that shit, you kick it. hit you with that shit Mike Tyson was doing on goddamn Instagram live this fucking week, right? Mike said he want to come back, bro. I know. He's bored, huh? Man, Mike said he's about to get in the ring and do three and four rounds for charity.

I'm here for that. Yeah, but who wants that smoke, bro? I'm not getting in the ring with that. No, I wouldn't fight Mike Tyson. Nah, no, no, no. You got that old man scrimp for now, too? Mike Tyson will knock you to fuck out, man. You know it's so interesting?

What's that? I was sitting back thinking about. about this, right? And I guess we can go into the deep dive. Well, what about what a fucking idiot? Oh, what a fucking, damn, we didn't do know. It had to be some stupid motherfuckers this week, right? Who was stupid this week? Yo, you know who's kind of stupid? Talk to me. Isaiah Thomas, bro. Why is Zeke stupid? Because he just don't know that nobody likes him.

I wouldn't be mad at that if I was like, yo, Zika's an alpha male, bro. Hey, all respect to Zique? Alpha male. I don't get a fuck. How many times he kissed Magic Johnson in the mouth? Alpha fucking male, you gotta be an alpha male to go kiss a motherfucker with AIDS and be like, I ain't getting it. Whoa, whoa.

Come on, bro. That's an alpha move. Jesus Christ. That's an alpha move. God damn. That's not an alpha move. Yeah, it says, yo, nobody could beat me,

not even AIDS. And then you go smooch a dude who got it. Isaiah was kissing magic before magic got diagnosed with AIDS. That's number one. Number two,

clearly, Americans ain't scared of no goddamn viruses. All right? This country is reopening at the height of a pandemic. You think Isaiah give a fuck, please. Why do you think Magic Johnson been on CNN all week?

Say again? Why do you think Magic been on CNN for the past two weeks? He has? Magic be on everybody's show. And I'm just sitting there like, magic is the symbol of why we ain't afraid of no goddamn viruses. That's what Magic represents. Slew to Magic Johnson.

Every time I see Magic on CNN, I beat my chest like, that's right. Open up America, God damn it. Let's go. Let's fucking go. All right? I'm out here being pussy. And Magic been living with this shit.

for 30 fucking years, let's fucking go. Right? He's on there with no fucking gloves, no, no mask, nothing. No gloves. Still no protection. That's still no protection. Still no protection. Magic to go.

But why you don't like Zee? I didn't say I don't like them. I actually like people who will irritate others and aren't wildly liked by everybody. I relate to it. Me too. So it's a problem I have. Now, that being said, he seems to be unaware of the fact,

or unaware why he was left off that team. But from everybody else, it seems like he wasn't the only, Jordan wasn't the only person that didn't like him. Jordan didn't like him. Pippen didn't like him, right? Larry Bird. Larry didn't like him.

They said Magic, but I don't know if I agree with that. I think him and Magic might have had some issues. So, you know, they had a, They loved each other. I don't think... They said magic in the dock, though. Now, here's a thing that nobody talks about, but I think he's really interesting.

Who coached that team? Chuck Daly. No, no, no. Yep. You're right. Chuck Daly. No, no, no. Mike Creskeshke was the original dream team.

Chuck Daly was... I don't know. No. Really? It was Chuck Daly who coached that team. So Chuck Daly and Chris, you can speak up if I'm wrong. But Chuck Daly coached that team, right? I think he was either a dream team one or dream team.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Chuck Daly coach that team. Chuck Daly was IT's coach. If he was really truly wanted on that team, his coach that led him to two championships would have fought for him and he did not. I don't even know if Chuck Daly liked that team. Yeah, but Chuck Daly didn't have no power over Michael Jordan,

Magic Johnson, Larry Bird. Of course, but he could offer. He could offer. Not really. And it seemed like that wasn't even made. Like Rod Thorne, I think it's Rod Thorne, getting interviewed the whole time, never said, yo, Chuck Daly came to me and he fought for IT, but I had

to say no. Right? Like, it seemed like it was known that Isaiah wasn't in the team because Isaiah wasn't liked and Isaiah was going to fuck up the Vod. Just don't be, listen, I agree with you, you know, but I tell people this all the time. If you are one of those people, you know, who I'm sure me and Andrew definitely are, who

we know people don't like us for whatever reason, don't act delusional. Don't act fucking delusional about it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can't sit here. I hate people like that. I hate people who do things, have said things, and then when people push back on them and don't want them around, they act like,

why? Why are he acting like that with me? What's the problem? Like, motherfucker, you know exactly why. Like, stop it. Stop it. But I fuck with Zeke, though. Zika's an alpha male.

I heard Zika got them hands, too, boy. Oh, yeah, he can fight? Man, I heard Zika put them fucking paws on you, bro. Talk to me. That's what I heard. I was reading my man Artemis Gordon's Instagram, who I love Artemis Gordon. If you don't follow Artemis Gordon,

I have no idea who Artemis Gordon is. He don't put no pictures up with himself. He has no picture of himself. But he'd be having these great old school stories. Like, it's like he knows every fucking thing. He just is. I love that part of the doc where Zico's, they never said none of this to my face.

Like he called Jordan and the Bulls pussy. He basically was like, yo, Michael Jordan's a pussy. Scotty Pippen's a pussy. They don't talk that. same shit when they're around me. But that's what he said. They said, like, Isaiah, they said, Isaiah always stood up for himself. They said, Isaiah fought for a lot of causes behind the scene that people didn't know about. Like, he was getting his activism on.

Okay. They said, they said the league never wanted him to be a face of the league because they couldn't control him. Ah. You know what I'm saying? He wasn't one of those good old, because you got to think about it, the league was supposed to go bird, magic, Jordan. Yep.

The pistas jumped in and disrupted that shit for a couple of seasons. Right. And so, and they said that when Isaiah was the type of person, would step to you. And if you said some shit, he wanted to know what the fuck is going on because he had them goddamn hands. Isaiah from Chicago.

Let's not get it fucked up. That's true. Like the south side of some shit like that. That's true. Isaiah ain't pussy by no means. So I love, you know the documentary is not finished yet? What?

It's not finished. They just finished episode nine and they put into finishing touches on episode 10. Oh, you broke my heart, man. I thought they're going to add more episodes. I thought it's not going to be. just 10. I thought it's going to be like 12. Oh, no, no, no. They had to move it up.

I mean, it's about to get good. We're about to go on, what, episode seven and eight? Yeah. I'm intrigued, man, and I never thought about this. And this is how you realize where mere immortals. Okay. Right? And like how you can't, you know, put yourself in somebody else's shoes. In this case, you can't put yourself in somebody else's

Jordan's. You look at Michael Jordan and you say to yourself, why would he ever walk away? Why would he ever walk away. If you watch that fucking documentary this weekend, you get it, huh? You realize how exhausted it is to be him. How much of a lonely life it is to be him. There was no other Michael Jordan. Nobody else could relate to what the fuck Michael Jordan was going through. When he was sitting in his hotel smoking that cigar and just wanting to relax, do you understand how peaceful that was to Michael? because from the time Michael stepped out of his hotel,

he was bombarded, flooded all the fucking time. And when they started picking them apart in the media, there was a very poignant line in that documentary. Somebody said it. They said that magic said it. They said that, man, I can't remember it was the news anchor. I can't remember the news anchor's name right now, but the sport funded. Ahmad Mashat?

Ahmad Rashad? It wasn't Amar Rashad. It wasn't Amar Rashad. The other brother. But he said, I'm sorry. Did you see the meme of Ahmad Rashad going on about his groomsmen for his wedding? Oh yeah, I saw that.

Yeah, I saw that. Amad had a point, though. OJ Simpson and Bill Cosby. OJ. Amad had a point, though. I saw Amad tweet. Amar was real with what he said. Somebody said, yo, Amad said,

because the guy said something to the effect, like, wow, Amar Rashad had the most problematic groomsmen of all time with some shit, and Amar goes, come on, were they really problematic in the 80s? Did y'all really think that? At the time, those were the bells of the fucking ball. At the time, Amar Rashah was the first.

fucking man to have OJ Simpson and Bill Cobby in his fucking wedding, bro. Stop, stop, knock it off. But Magic Johnson said... Was Amad Sports Arsenio? Nah. I mean, it seemed like he had this relationship with the players that was different

than most of these other sports journalists. And Jordan just calls him and he's like, hey, I want to talk to you. Let's do an interview. Black privilege. He was like the only black guy. That's what I'm saying. Was he Arsenio? He was an ex-affer. he was a all pro.

He's to play football. The Raiders. Oh, okay. They saw him as an Ath. Okay, okay. So there was this like camaraderie as someone who had that experience. Yeah, he used to play for the Raiders. Okay, okay.

Yeah, and not only that, but he was the only black person in that position at the time on NBC. Like high profile like that. He was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But go on. You said Magic Johnson. Yeah, one of the sports anchor said that Magic Johnson said, if y'all don't lay off this man, speaking of Michael Jordan.

Oh, that's, Right, yeah. He's going to walk away from this game. Yeah. Because it was too much for him. So now, think about it. You're already at your breaking point. You're already saying to yourself, man,

I think I'm going to walk away from this shit. And then, sadly, your father gets killed. Like emotionally, mentally, and I'm sure they're going to get to that in the next two episodes. But emotionally and mentally, he had to be over it. Over it. Motherfuckers would be like, yo, what about all that money? Man, money is not every fucking thing. Money does not buy.

buy happiness. Money's not by a piece of fucking mind. When we all learn that shit? You know when you learn it? When you get money? When you get fucking money. You can't know that unless you get some money. Yeah. You're right. No, you're fucking right. I was thinking about that shit. It made me think about LeBron. I actually posted that. People got mad. I didn't even think, I forget that you can't mention LeBron and Michael.

I was not making a comparison about them as athletes. There is no comparison anymore. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But I was talking about just. mental fortitude. But explain the post, though, for everybody who didn't see it. Well, I was talking, let me, let me. You were like, what, like, could Jordan survive in the social media age now?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to read. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it verbatim because I just want to be clear about what the fuck I was saying. Because people would just be mad about every goddamn thing. Not that I give a fuck, but, you know. I can bring it up unless you don't, unless you got. I got it. I got my laptop right here, baby.

I just got to get back to Sunday. I don't tweet that much, so it should be coming up soon. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Yes, I said, can you imagine if MJ came up in the social media era? I said, watching the media pressure Jordan was under during that first repeat,

makes you respect LeBron even more for staying sane his entire career. And when you look at LeBron and Michael, they didn't have the same trajectory as far as how they came into the league. LeBron had the spotlight on him since high school in a real way. Right. Like they was calling him the chosen one in high school. Right. So literally his first game in the NBA, he had all those bright lights around him. And then he actually started succeeding.

Right. But now he's living up to expectation so everything grows. Now you become the biggest ballplayer of this modern era, right? But not only do you got to deal with traditional media, you got to deal with social media. And the thing that hurts LeBron the most, or I think that put. more pressure on him than Jordan, LeBron wasn't winning. When Jordan win, you shut the fucking critics up.

When LeBron wins, whatever you was getting multiplies times a hundred. You know what I'm saying? So for me, I'm just like, damn, for LeBron to have the mental fortitude to hear all of this noise all at a time from the critics, from people, from everybody, would still go out there and perform, right?

Even if he's not winning championships every year, but just to go out there every night and still average 25, 28, 14, whatever the fuck he's doing, that's commendable, bro. That's fucking commendable. Yeah, it is, man. It's, uh, there was some, there was some fucking bars in there that Jordan really gave us. And, uh, that one thing about, um, uh, the one thing about, like, you're never going to

satisfy everyone. I think you, you'll never do everything that they want you to do. So if your goal is to try to satisfy every them, you will always fail. Woo. You know what I'm saying? Like, because he's like, if I just want to focus on. basketball, of course the basketball fans are going to be happy, but the people who want me to be an activist are going to be pissed. If I just focus on activism, then the people who just

want me to, quote unquote, you know, shut up and dribble or whatever it is are going to be pissed, right? And I think he learned that shit the hard way, but low key, you have to satisfy yourself. Absolutely. I think we all have a problem with variety, right? I think we have a problem with variety because when we see something, right? Like, say Muhammad Ali is this great athlete who sets a certain bar. Right. Or Karim Abdul-Jabbar is a certain kind of athlete who sets a certain bar. Bill Russell, Jim Brown, whoever it was.

They set a certain bar or John Carlos. These guys set a bar when it came to athletes using their platform to be activists. I think it was shocking to some people that wasn't Michael Jordan. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't think that was magic either at the time. I mean, in the future maybe, but at the time when Magic was playing ball, that's what we knew Magic for. We didn't know Magic for, you know, making stands against racial injustice or making stands against social injustice.

And by the way, if Michael Jordan just wants to play basketball, he's not hurting anybody by doing that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And listen, I think everybody should use their platform to speak out if they want to. Yes. You know what I'm saying? If you don't want to, I'm, I don't. I'm not mad at him for that.

Yeah. You can. Yeah. Go on. No, I'm just saying. He said he made the comment in just, you know, Republicans buy shoes too. Yeah. I can totally see that coming out of his mouth, especially after watching the doc and seeing how he was behind the scene.

It seems like a Jordan thing to say, right? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it honestly didn't bother me. He said he donated money to the guy's campaign. Which, by the way, probably helped him more than a fucking Jordan endorsement would anyway. I don't, I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying.

I don't know. Yeah. You know? But it's just like that part didn't bother me. Like I don't look at Michael Jordan the way I look at Muhammad Ali. You know what I'm saying? And I don't like the whole debate about

LeBron's the greatest athlete of all time because of what he does off the court. No. That's not how that works? Yeah, yeah. You get judged based on what you do on the court if we're talking about on the court. It's basketball.

We're talking basketball. And low key, like we could always go back. Like the way that somebody conducts their, life and the influence they are to other people and getting into that level of power and the amount of people that you can empower under you, right, has a huge influence and it is activism in it of itself. That's what Michael said. Michael said that my, Michael said, I will influence and inspire you through my actions.

Exactly. And I think we can't discredit that. Now, it's easier to look at a guy like Ali, right, who was out there fighting for it and it was marching and he was willing to go to jail for his principles, et cetera. It's easier to look at him and see what he did, right? if we put both their careers next to each other, I don't know. Has, did Ali employ more people than Michael? Black people specifically?

Has Michael put more money in black people's pockets? Maybe has he helped more communities? Has he donated more money to black organizations? Like, if we literally go next to each other and put them, maybe Michael has had a greater impact on black progress than Ali did without being an activist. It's possible. It depends what you call it. progress. Like financial corporate progress. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure Michael Jordan is leaps and

bounds. You know what I mean? But when it comes to like social progress, it's Ali by far. How sure? Because Ali protested, and not even just for black people, Ily protested the Vietnam War for people who just didn't want to go fight in the Vietnam War. He was like, yo, my people are over here getting depressed. Why am I going to go over there and fight for this country when this country ain't even doing my people right? But did that stop the war? It didn't stop the war, but he was one of the first people to highlight that it was an unjust war going on. And eventually everybody realized that.

Eventually America realized, you know what? Martin Luther King Jr. was right. You know what? Muhammad Ali was right. You know what? Whoever was speaking out against the Vietnam War, eventually America realized that they were correct. But some would make the argument that America didn't realize that the war was corrupt until the draft. kicked in and all these white kids had to start going to the war.

And then all of a sudden their parents were like, yo, yo, yo, yeah, why are we sending my parents? Why are we saying my kids to the war? I'm rich. My kid's not supposed to fight in wars. And that's basically what Ali then was saying. Right. But they just were poor.

The argument by some would be it wasn't Ali's activism. And then again, I'm not trying to take away nothing from Ali. I think it's so great when he did. They bought a lot of attention to it. 100%. Martin Luther King Jr., Muhammad Ali bought a lot of attention. And by the way, I'm sure that it was white people out there who were on the front lines protesting too.

They just weren't a famous as Martin Luther King Jr. Muhammad Ali. 100%. 100%. No, no. And look, you cannot deny the immense sacrifice that he made because he lost how long of his career because he wouldn't go to the war.

Like he was put in prison for it. Yeah. I just think, you know, I just think, to your point, I just think you can't deny Jordan's effect, man. And we act like he hasn't had an effect on civil rights or he hasn't had an effect on the progress of black people. But I disagree. I think that you could probably,

Compare them if you really looked at it. Forget the civil rights. Let's talk about economic empowerment. Boom. Let's talk about the fact that, you know, Michael Jordan changed the way, you know, corporate entities deal with these athletes. He changed the way the NBA had to fucking pay people. You know what I mean? He changed the way that, you know, endorsement deals worked. He showed people that they can get equity in sneaker companies.

Like, yeah, I mean, that's what I say everybody plays a part. Ali did his part. Jordan came along and did his part. LeBron's here now he's doing his part, but they all stand on the shoulders of each other. Sure. They all stand on the shoulders each other. I just hate that the view of Jordan in a lot of people's eyes is he's some sellout because he didn't speak out verbally when if you really look at the impact,

he might have had a more profound economic impact on black people than Ali. He might have. Maybe not. It's possible. And I'm an Ali guy. I get it. Love Ali. But I cannot take away Jordan's impact.

By the way, I'm not even going to say it's possible. Yes. I know it's true. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Jordan Brand is a multi-billion dollar industry. Yes. Right.

I know it's true. All Jordan's kids work at fucking Jordan Brand right now, as they should, by the way. Yeah. Nepotism at his fucking finest. We had all his kids on Breakfast Club this week, Marcus, Jeffrey, and Jasmine. And I just like hearing those stories about how he fucking burnt.

His daughter's sketches. What do you mean? What happened? Said his fucking daughter sketches on fire. I'm fucking Jordan. Let's go. Let's go. What?

He said his fucking daughter sketches on fire, man. Get them shit the fuck out of here. Yeah. Fucking tired. He said he tackled his fucking son. One of his son said, man, we was playing football. And, you know, we was playing football. And we was playing it in the house.

And he said, my dad's so competitive. I'm thinking he's just about to let me score the touchdown as soon as I'm about to get across the goal line, boom! He hits me so hard that my fucking head hits the glass table, is blood everywhere, is bleeding to the white meat, all that shit.

And I go, well, first of all, that's your dumb ass for playing football with Michael Jordan. Who the fuck plays football with Michael Jordan? Why the fuck would you play football with Michael Jordan? That's fuck, I don't care if that's your daddy at night. That's Michael fucking Jordan. Get on the goddamn basketball court and learn something. The hell is wrong with you.

But that's who Michael was. I'm not mad. I'm not mad at that. I don't know, man. I love, I love, I love, I love living documentaries. Oh, it's the best. I love documentaries where people are still alive. And they're telling their own fucking story.

I love that shit. Let's go on this. This is great. Because with a living documentary, you get the feedback of the people in real time. Real time, man. Yes, man. You get to ask Isaiah what he thinks of what happened.

You get to ask, Bill Limbier about way that we get to ask Tony Kukoch about how he felt like yeah all document not all obviously you can't but like we should do as many documentaries about shit that happened not too long ago so that we could still hear the truth about it from the people that were there yeah his um his kids said that they interviewed Michael Jordan three times for the doc because he said that they interviewed Michael initially and then they went and talked to other people told them things Michael said and then took that back to Michael so Michael could go...

Could respond. Respond, yeah, man. That's why when they show him, when they, like, I'm going to show you what Isaiah, say, remember they showed that part? Like, that is what happened. And you know how competitive Michael is. If they're going to talk some shit,

then Michael's going to get honest about it. God damn looted. Absolutely, man. And I would save all the questions until that tequila he's drinking was about halfway gone. I'd ask him the fluffy bullshit up top and then once that tequila hit about halfway mark, oh, how you feel that?

IT. Yo, at first I thought that was cognac. I think you might be right. It might be tequila because his kids have their own tequila. Yeah, they have a tequila brand. Yeah, their father invested in, but it's the kids running this shit. Oh, that's fire. Yeah, man.

That's fire. That's life. That's what the fuck you're supposed to do. That's fire, dog. Nepotism works all with everybody. That's why when you open up a fucking tub of nepotism ice cream is black, vanilla, and strawberry. The volatine.

Whatever. Whatever. It fucking wants. It works. It fucking works. Nepotism, Nepotism, Nepotan. It works for everybody, God damn it. All right?

Just put the strawberry people in the position with the chocolate people and the vanilla people and we all can eat. Oh, fuck, dog. Let's pay some bills, me. I got to piss. Me too, bro.

You want to pause? I got to run pee. We'll do a little break. And then we'll pay. All right. Pause. All right. Let's pay some bills real quick, man.

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Shit. I wish. Church is closed. I wish the church is closed. Check out the Biden piece that we did every week, every Saturday we drop a new piece. And I think it's a really cool lane that we've found in, that is empty right now in comedy, which is like, a comedy without any kind of political bias about talking about, you know, an issue that happened

this week. We take one issue, one thing that we feel strongly about. And then we just write a piece on it and then put it out. And I go straight to camera. And it's just really cool to see people respond to it because, again, like, you know a lot of these guys that are attached to a network. You know, a network for the most part is going to be a, you know, a political marketing arm for one of these, you know, groups. And we decide not to do that. We, just going to do the funniest joke and the funniest take, regardless of, you know, who aligns with it. So it's cool to see people respond, man.

And thank you for reposting that. I appreciate that. It's dope, man. Also, I want you to go to my YouTube page. You know, I've been, what I've been attempting to do is, you know, share tools and resources that I use, not just in my everyday life,

but things that are actually helping me get through, you know, the quarantine. And, you know, it's not like I can share my therapist with people. You know what I mean? So, you know, when I do my teletherapy, that's between me and my therapist. But, you know, I read a lot, you know, and I love Deepak Chopra,

and I love Don Miguel Ruiz, and I got to salute my sister, Devi Brown, who I absolutely positively adore. That's been my homie for, like, 13, shit, 13 years now? Damn, maybe longer. 12, 13 years, something like that. And, you know, watching Dev grow in that mindfulness space, the way that she has, you know,

she's got books out, you know, about crystal stones. You know what I mean? She got her podcast dropping gyms. Like she's really in that mindfulness space. And, you know, her and Deepak Chopra have connected on a real level. And she was like, yo, you got to sit with Deepak. You know, and she's, you know, made a couple of those meetings happen. We were all supposed to go to his retreat this month.

But of course, that's not happening. So I interviewed Deepak a couple weeks ago via Zoom. And that was a great conversation. And then me and him did an instant. Instagram live together and both of those are up on YouTube. But also Don Miguel Ruiz, man, you know, I've been a big fan of Totic Wisdom forever. You know, the four agreements, the fifth agreement, you know, the mastery of love, the voice of knowledge.

Like these are books that I've read in my life that have really, you know, helped me out. And I randomly just reached out the Don Miguel Ruiz via the DM. Like, I just sent them with DM like, yo, this is Charlemagne de God? But, you know, I would love to interview Don. I explained who I was because I didn't assume that he knew. And they hit me right back. Really? Like, Charlaman, yes, we would love for Don to sit with you like, oh.

So thank you to Carla Ruiz. I don't know what relation caller is to Don, but caller made that happen in two seconds. I literally sent him a DM. Like, literally like, man, I got to talk to fucking Dom McGarrow. Like, and I did. So, you know. Next on my. this is Judy Blume. If I can get fucking

Judy Blume, baby. Man, if I can get Judy Blum. What? The kids book author, Judy Blum? You goddamn right. Interesting. Judy Blume shaped my form of the fucking years. What were the books you wrote, like some murder mysteries or like mystery? Hell no. Are you

there, God? It's me, Margaret. Blubber. Fucking freckles, freckle juice. Oh, no. Hells of the fourth grade, nothing. No, that wasn't Judy. Oh, no, that was Judy. Oh, no, that was Judy.

before grade nothing. I was about to say that was Ramona Quimby. No, that was Beverly Clearly. No. Tell them fourth grade nothing was Judy Bloom. Like, Judy Bloom, absolutely motherfucking, like help craft my formative years. When my mama told me to read things that don't pertain to you, that's the first shit I started reading.

Judy Blum. Shit about little white girls. Okay, little white future cairns, all right? And it motherfucking helped me out a lot. So if I can sit down with Judy Blum because she's much older and they say she got like this coffee shop somewhere and they say people literally go and sit in this coffee shop and just wait to see her. They say she comes by the coffee shop every now and then, but man, I don't give a fuck. If I get to do a Zoom or in person, if I get to, it's probably over Zoom. But if I get to sit down

with Judy Blum, I will feel like I have done something in my life. Why, what would you ask her? What are you curious about? What is a lot? I mean, just for me, like I said, my mom told me to read things that don't pertain to me. And it's like, for whatever. reason. It just opened up my mind to not only a whole new world, but just a different demographic of people, so to speak. Okay.

You know what I mean? Because even, you know, growing up where I grew up in Montaena's South Carolina, it's not like, you know, like Thomas, my guy, Tom was my first white friend. Yeah. But I didn't look at Tom as white. Yeah. It was just two kids living on a dirt road. So our experiences were pretty much the same. You know what I mean? Culturally, it wasn't that different.

Culturally it wasn't different. When I read Judy Blum books culturally those people's lives are fucking different. You know what I mean? Totally. Like, like asking, Mom, what's a suburb? Uh, mom, what's a suburb? What is this cold? Coldusack. Cold, uh, cold.

Cold, like, so it's just like, yeah. And even just like, uh, you know, um, are you there got is me, Margaret? Like, even the struggle of the insecurities of a woman who wanted breasts. regardless if it was a woman or not and the woman wanted breasts, anybody can relate to the insecurity of wanting something

that you don't have. And you don't have it yet, but yet it's coming. You're a child. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. So when you're a young kid growing up

on a dirt road in Musk on the stock in Atlanta, yeah, you don't have the things that you want yet. Right. But it's like, yo, her mantra was, I must, I must increase my bust. Everybody can have a mantra that they repeat over and over and over and over and over that sights them up to get what the fuck

they want. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I just think I feel like her books had a real impact on me when I was a kid. But long story short, go to my YouTube page, YouTube.com, backslash see the God, C-T-H-A-G-O-D, and you can go watch the interview with Don Miguel Ruiz as well as

Deepak Chopra. Yeah, you make an interesting point. Also, by the way, YouTube pages, do us a favor. Go subscribe to the Brilliant Idiots Clips YouTube page. where we cut up a lot of the conversations we have and we put those out as clips and we're trying to build that up, man,

so that they can hit that YouTube algorithm. So if you could go to YouTube.com slash brilliant idiots, clips. That would really help us out. So make sure you do that. But you make an interesting point about like reading things that don't apply to you at all. Like I think reading a lot of ways is like a form of travel.

That makes sense? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Like you get to be a voyeur in this world that has nothing to do with you if you choose to read something like that and really learn a lot about it in an intimate way

and for people who don't have tons of money or for people who don't have the access to travel, it probably means everything to them. It's like, whoa, you got to take me to Paris when I read this or you got to take me to some white girls' house in the suburbs when I read some Judy Blume. Reading is what helped me transcend my circumstances. Reading in music.

Yeah. Reading and music. I didn't get on a plane until I was 21 years old, man. So think about that. You know what I'm saying? I didn't get on a plane until I was 21 years old. It's not like I, you know, we drive down to Miami. I drive down to Orlando where my aunt lived.

Right. Drove to, drove to New York or New Jersey where my other aunts and uncles live. But just to get on a plane to actually travel for myself, I didn't do that until I was 21. Were you nervous when you did it? Like, what was that reaction at first? It was after 9-11. So hell, fucking yeah. It was after 9-11.

First time I ever got on the plane was. after 9-11 happened. And so what was going on? Actually, it was interesting because my OG Dr. Robert Evans, Dr. Robert Evans actually said, are you kidding me? It's the safest time to fucking fly right now. Oh, of course.

So that's what I did. I had my little cloth suitcase. I remember that vividly. I remember landing at the airport, getting my luggage and him, Dr. Evans laughing at me like a motherfucker because I had like, I never traveled. I had like my mom's old-ass fucking cloth suitcase.

You know what I mean? I know I look fucking crazy, but I never had traveled. So it was like, it was just something new. So I wasn't nervous per se. It was just a new experience. I feel like when we do things as kids, right? Like we forget the initial emotions we've had with them. You know, like the first time I went swimming, I can't remember it.

So I can't remember what it was like to just be in water and floating. Like, and then it's just become part of who I am, right? So I'm curious at 21 the first time you're flying. Like, are you looking out the window scared shit? shitless? Like, are you accepting what this is? Could you react or relax at all when you're in the air? I think I might, I'm sure

I had a panic attack, you know what I'm saying? For me, it just felt, it felt, I remember having a feeling of like I was really accomplishing shit in life because I was doing full-time radio on Hot 98-9 and Charleston, South Carolina at the time, so I used to do Monday through Friday, 7 and midnight. I was only making $19 a year,

but I didn't give a fuck. I was the man in my city, ain't nobody fucking with me. Right. You can ask all the bad, it's just and all the And then... And all the what? All the bad bitches and all the real what? It's the T.I. Line. I'm the man in my city.

Ain't nobody fucking with me. You can't have the bad bitches at all the real niggas. I'm a known drug dealer. I always had killers in the thuds. And the killers was all the class with me. But I flew to New York from Charleston. And I just felt like the man. And I was going to New York because I was doing A&R for never so deep records at the time.

You know, which was a record label that was a subsidiary of MCA. So I just really felt like I was moving in life. That's what I honestly felt. That's what I remember feeling. I remember feeling like, oh, shit, I'm in New York. You know what I mean? Like, I'm living. I'm living that life.

And I had $100. I had $100 the whole time I was here in New York. How long were you here? Shit, I think I was here for like four days. Four fucking days for $100. And I remember the first day, me and my dude, DJ Blessed, we went into the, I don't know if it was a bodega.

It was some type of store in New York. We ordered like Hogi's. And that shit was like $15. And I was like, I ain't going to make it for four fucking days. If this is, if this is how this shit is going, I'm not going to be able to fucking make it. If Hogi's a fucking $15, it's the first fucking day. I've been in for two hours. This shit ain't going to cut it, bro.

So, yeah. I don't know. That's interesting, right? That whole feeling of what the first time feels like. I always feel like that first time, you don't really have any emotions towards anything. If somebody doesn't sour you to the experience, right? If somebody doesn't tell you what they expect, you don't really have no expectations of shit.

Right. I don't think so anyway. I think your expectations are built up based on what you like see and hear, right? So you've seen and heard people fly and talk about it. And probably all the times you saw people flying in movies, it was like some, you know, plane crash or... This was after 9. Yeah, absolutely.

That's all you're thinking about. And that's going to inform your feelings in the moment. Absolutely. Let's do some shit you won't care about next week. Oh, yeah, what you got? And did you deep dive? I mean, the deep dive can either be the bull's thing. Oh, I got a good deep dive, bro.

Okay. Holy fucking shit. By the way, we could deep dive more than once in the podcast. We could deep dive a few times. Okay, go. Man, 50 Cent had a conversation with our guy Van Leighton. Okay. And, um,

Van asked him, does he love his son, his first son? And 50 said, I used to, right? And he said, he went on to quote his grandfather. He said, if it slits like a steak, is it a snake, or do you need to be bit? But what 50 said that was so interesting to me, 50 said, I guess you got to ask yourself the question. How long do you continue to love something that doesn't love you back? Ooh. It's a great fucking question.

I mean, the answer to that question is if it's your kid until you die. Yeah, right. That's your kid, bro. It's different. You can't abandon that kid. If he doesn't love you, you have to understand he's a child. You know, he's a child and children, you know, correct their ways. But children can be a pain in the ass.

And I'm sure he has his reasons for not liking his dad. I bet you a lot of the reasons have to do with the baby mother, though. Sure. Because you never know what the baby mother has put in the child's head over the years. because a lot of times it's like a transfer of energy, right? You're mad at the father. The father ain't shit. The person that's around you all the time is your child.

The child is witnessing y'all argue. The child is witnessing you tell your home girls and other family members how he ain't shit. And, you know, eventually that pain you feel because you don't like the father sometimes can go into the child. You know what I mean? So I respect it. I get why any child would arrive with the mom.

But I think a guy like, you know, young brother, 50, I think his name is Marquise. I think Marquise, you know, God, God forbid, because, you know, I want everybody to have kids with the person, they plan to marry. But if he does have a baby's mother one day, he can understand. The baby mother puts him on that kind of pressure,

under that kind of pressure, I think he'll understand. You know what I'm saying? I've seen that happen a million times. I've seen sons hate the fathers until they get put in that position and then they understand the diet. between a father and a mother, right? They understand that shit ain't sweet. They understand that, look, son, I'm not around you because I don't love you.

I'm not around you because she won't let me. Right. You know what I mean? I'm not just abandoning you. I'm not coming around because she won't give me that. She won't allow me to. Right. So I think that, yeah, I think that is a thing.

What do you think about when do you stop loving something? I mean, I would hope that I never could. stop loving my kid. I really would hope that. And I'd hope I'd have the wisdom to go, one day he's going to understand this. And I would never want to say something on a podcast, like I don't love him anymore because he's going to hear that shit. And if you're saying it on a podcast, you want him to hear it. What about outside of kids, though? Because this can, this can go into people who have dreams. No, fuck it. You're dead to me. If you, if you're a snake and you, Hold on.

If somebody is disloyal to me and is a snake to me. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm not loving him forever. You got, what is it called? My love is conditional, bro. My love is absolutely got-dain conditional. Come on, man. I don't play that shit.

Uh-uh. Oh, God. What did you say, Taylor? I have a question. What if your son or child did something like against law? Like what? They killed someone or they raped someone or whatever. right? Can you still love that person?

I don't think that you can turn it off. I don't think you can turn it off. Like if you love them, you love them. You could be mad at them and angry at them and pissed off at them and disappointed and embarrassed and all of that shit, but that's still your fucking child. That's what I always say. If your mother abandons you, you really a piece of shit.

Because don't nobody love you unconditionally like a fucking mom. Like your mom, though. That's a fact. If your mom, your mom cuts you off. You really a piece of shit, bro. Yeah, no, that's too far. If your mom cuts you off, that's too far. But yeah, I hear what you're saying, Taylor, it's tricky.

Like, if they do something absolutely horrendous, can you stop loving your kid? Like, if your kid kills your wife and his mom. Oh, yeah, yoy. I don't think you'll stop loving them. I think it'll hurt more because you loved them so much. I think you can simultaneously hate somebody and love them at the same time, though. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I don't think you turn love off because think about it, you're always going to have those memories. So even if somebody does something that horrendous to you, right? you're still going to think about all those times before the hypothetical pre-murder of, you know, said mom. You're like, what could I have done differently?

How could I have raised them differently? Why has he had all this hate in them? Maybe if I was there more. But sometimes we don't realize that, yo, all you can do is the best you can. That's what Don Miguel Ruiz says. That's the fourth agreement and the four agreements. Always do your best.

If I did my best as a child, I mean, as a parent, I'm not responsible for what you fucking do as an adult. Once you get to a certain point, you start making your own choices and your own decisions, that's on you, because all I could do for you is what I could do. Something else can shape other things than you, others than me. Right, right, right.

You know what I'm saying? Let me ask you my question. Are you doing your best in combing your beer? Because you haven't stopped doing that this entire podcast. Because I got fucking, I'm obsessive. I don't know what you would call this shit. OCD? I think it's OCD, bro.

I think it's comb, bro. I think that shit might be perfect by now. Like, I just keep doing it. Bro. I'll be doing that shit to my head, too. I didn't think I got the kind of pick I want. Because, you know, my sister Tiffany had, is, you know, Tiffany hit me one day.

She was very concerned about my hair, very concerned about my hair line. Yeah. And she told me that I should try monostat seven in Jamaican castor oil. She said, take the monostat seven, put it inside the Jamaican castor oil, mix it up, and start applying that to your hair.

Apply it to the bald spots because she said your hair isn't fucked up. She was like, you have a hairline that can be restored. You just have patches. I've been doing that shit, bro. I've been doing that shit for like a week, and I've been seeing some results.

And what has happened? Did the yeast infection go away? I think that shit is going away, bro. Well, that's good. I think my fucking hair is growing out a little bit, bro. I'm not going to lie to you. You want to show us? You want to wait until, like, next week to really get it going.

I'm going to wait until next week when I got a nice little fr up. All right. Nice little. It's about right there, right there. I'm going to let it grow another inch like that. All right. Okay, also shit you want to.

care about next week. Tyra fucking banks. What did Tyra do? Talking about hair lines. It's not Tyra. It's people upset over Tyra's old comments from America's next top model. What's she said? I really

need to know who the fuck you people are that wake up on a random Tuesday, because it was Cinco de Mayo when this shit happened. A random taco fucking Tuesday and start attacking Tyra Banks for old shit she said on a talk show that was one of the biggest shows out.

But what was it, though? It had reruns. It was just simple shit. It was like they flipped the meme on her when she was lying and when she was yelling at the girl saying, we was all rooting for you. It was all rooting for you. Now all of a sudden that meme y'all have been using for years. Y'all think is mean.

There was another scene when she was talking to a girl and she said that her gap tooth wasn't going to allow her to make it in the modeling world. And then they cracked some jokes. And then there was another one where she made a white girl actually shade. gave her tooth down to have a gap because she said that was the new, the new it thing. Whatever the fuck. She made a girl shave her teeth to have a gap. That's crazy, bro.

Something like that. If you were a person back in the day who watched that and you felt offended by her making fun of the girl's gap, I totally understand. That's how you felt back then. That shit ain't going to change now. You probably still hate that shit. Before all you, Johnny come lately, all you new motherfuckers who never heard of America's Next Top Model and y'all are just getting these clips from fucking Twitter and the like and y'all are going in on Tyra and posting about Tyra. What the fuck is wrong with y'all?

Like, do y'all lay this shit out on the bed the night before and say tomorrow we're going kill Tyra? Because of these fucking comments. Like, I am just so sick a motherfucker's getting in trouble for shit that they said back in the day, especially when that shit was made public for everybody. These ain't no secret recordings. This is the shit we all heard back then and nobody gave a fuck. In fact, it was one of the highest rated shows on television.

Once again, I'm going to use this analogy, and I need y'all to understand this. If the highway said 70 miles per hour 20 years ago and I was doing 70, now that the same highway, the speed limit is 55, and I'm doing 55 out of respect because I understand the fucking rules and regulations of the land. Right. Don't start sending me goddamn speeding tickets from 20 years ago when I was going 70. This shit don't make no fucking sense, bro. What if we have a statute of limitations on cancelling people for what they say?

First of what? There's no, there's a thing as cancel culture. Say what? No, I hear what you're saying. But like, what if the statute of limitations is five years, right? Because a lot can change in five years. Sentiments can change in five years, right? I say four.

Four is always a good number because it's graduation. Sure, four years. Doesn't matter. So anything more than four years ago, you cannot cancel. I'm going to be honest with you. What the culture was four years. ago. If it said publicly on TV,

radio, podcast, you got 24 hours, maybe 48. Fuck that. Four years is too long. You got 20 for real? You got 24 hours, maybe fucking 48. What y'all going to do next? Y'all going to attack and live in color? Y'all about to come after Keenan and the Wayans brothers now because of the edgy shit that they used to do?

Right. The fuck, you're going to come after Chappelle? You're going to go after old SNL show? Like, what is next? Like, what's next? Why do we do this? Like, why do people, give a fuck. Like, listen, and by the way,

you have every right to be mad on social media. If you want to be mad on social media, cool, nobody gives a fuck. As long as that shit don't affect Tyra Banks in the real

corporate world, I'm cool. But that shit is just stupid to me. Like, all of this shit you have to be outraged out. Andrew, it is so much shit

you could be outraged about right now in 2020. Why do you have to dig up shit from 20 years ago when the climate was different? They're about to attack the bad boy pistons, bro.

How so? They're about to attack the bad boy pistons and say that they were a bunch of fucking thugs. They could have killed Scottie Pippen. They could have killed Michael Jordan. They need to be brought up on charges. This should have been a salt, okay?

Why wasn't fucking Bill Lambere ever arrested? I'm telling you. If you keep letting this type of shit happen, this is how far it'll fucking go, man. I hate that shit, Joe. I can't fucking stand it. I agree with you, man. I think it's bullshit.

And I think it's true. It's something we won't care about next week. That's the beauty of this shit. is like everybody gets upset and then they completely forget about it next week. And maybe that's why we resent them so much for it. Because we're like, you don't care. You just want retweets. You just want attention.

You are fraudulent. You have told someone that they were a gap tooth idiot in your life. Now, Tyra does it on a TV show when she's trying to help this chick become a model. Models are about objectifying themselves, right? Like, that's literally what it is. You want to be the most objectifiable person. That's what being a model is. if she's giving you advice on how to be objectified better,

you better take that shit. Right? Like, what are you upset about her for? It's her job to tell you what's wrong with you and why you're not objectifiable. Yo, you got a hole in your teeth. Okay? We can't objectify you as good with a hole in your teeth.

You get that shit fixed? Boom, now we could objectify you better. It's that simple. Especially back then when there was like a strict criteria to be a model. Yeah, there was none of these fat models. There was none of these retard models. There was none of these like, I think they're making Down syndrome model.

Like, there's a model in a wheelchair. There's none of these like special needs models. It was just, are you hot or are you not hot, right? Ira also put a big girl model in the America's top model, though. Like, she was one of the first that to promote it. But that was a later season. No, it wasn't. That was like the second season.

I don't even know. Oh, that was Takara, right? Yeah. And what happened with her? She's a lot of. Stop. Ticarra had a good... She lost weight.

Carre had a good career. But she lost weight, though, right? But she's still, like, thick. This is not like... Taylor, I love the fact you're coming to defend your people, you're defending plus-size models, Taylor. You know what? Stop.

You stand your fucking ground when it comes to those plus-size models, Taylor. Don't you let... Don't let Andrew talk crazy. I hate. Hey, bro. That shit is so stupid. What? All this shit.

Listen, Nicholas Cage, shit you won't care about next week. Nicholas Cage. Nah, nah, no, no, don't talk about the goat, bro. He's playing joy. Hey, don't talk about Nicholas Cage is the best. Listen, we spoke about this on Flager 2, but Nicholas Cage is the greatest living American actor and don't ever come at the goat like that, bro. Stop, stop, stop. He'll ever come at the go like that, bro.

That's not, Nicholas Cage is not the greatest living American actor. door ever come with a goat like that, bro. Last I checked, Tom Hanks didn't die of Corona. Okay? Tom Hanks not even top five. Get the fuck out of here, Andrews. Tom Hanks's not even top five, bro. Get the fuck out of here, bro.

Tom Hanks is the one. Nah, bro. Are you sitting? You're not, you're on drugs. What do he do good in? What did he do good in? What did he not do good in? Forrest Gump?

Amazing. What? Amazing. Faris Gump. What else? Fucking big. Fucking big. What was so good about big?

What do you mean? What was so good about Big? I don't know, bro. That shit sucked. When the last time you seen Big? I don't even think I've seen it. That's how bad it was. God.

Man, Tom Hicks. Tom Hicks is the fuck. Let me pull up Tom Higgs' resume. Nah, bro. Compaidtage is trash. Nicholas Cage. Son. Nicholas Cage is a bootleg Keanu Reeves.

Yo, yo, yo. Stop talking about it crazy, bro. Hey, hey, hey. You're talking about the go crazy right now, bro. You're really talking about the go crazy. Oh, man. Hold on. Let's tell her.

You're talking about Faris Gump. You're talking Castaway. Casteaway. Trash. Fucking Philadelphia. What? What? What?

Saving Private Ryan was fire. It was fire. Did you say Castaway was trash? I can't watch that shit again. Come on, bro. Stop. The Green Mile. Sully?

The Da Vinci Code? The Da Vinci Code. He ruined. Yo. What? Come on, bro. I read the book. Toy Story.

Toy Story? Say it again. Toy story? Toy story. Toy story? Toy story. Toy story. Toy story.

Toy story. Kind of lit. Philadelphia? Philadelphia, bro. I didn't watch that shit. You watched that shit? Yes. With Denzel? Fuck yeah. Wait a minute. Denzel was in Philadelphia? Yeah. Who was he? The lawyer?

I don't fucking remember. Are you see? Am I tripping? Yeah, Denzel. I know I'm not bugging. Yeah, Dezell was in Philadelphia. Hey, anyway, Tom Hanks, decent actor. Bro. Nick Cage ain't got no fucking splash. Hey, bro. Hey, Nick Cage, bro. Let's talk about it. He never did splash, bro.

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Nick Cage, though. Gone in 60 seconds. Cute. Face off. Classic. Lord of war. Because of Troultta.

Lord of war. Travolta carried Nicholas Cage. Now, stop that. You need to stop that. You need to stop that. You're acting crazy right now. And you know why he carried it? Because when they told him he'd be face to face with a man the whole movie,

he was like, Trovota bought his A game. He said, hold on, you get to be inside Nick Cage's body. He's like, dreams do come true. You get to have Nicholas Cage's face on your face, the whole movie. Holy shit. I ain't John Travolta. God damn it. I bet you go look at the fucking B-Roe for that shit.

He had a fucking hard-on the whole goddamn movie. Damn right. That's what Nick Cage does to you, bro. Come on, give me some other Nick Cage shit. Who else? Conair. Conair. You're forgetting about Vampire's Kiss.

That shit sounds like Travolta was in that shit too. Vampires Kiss. Khan Air, bro. There's literally, you cannot find a bad Nick Cage movie. They're amazing. He's amazing. He got a fucking Oscar.

He does everything. He does comedy. He does drama. He does action. So does Johnny. So does fucking Tom. Tom cannot do. Tom is the most diverse actor of our generation.

Stop that. Stop that. Tom tried to do Road to Perdition. That shit was trash because he can't play a tough guy. Tom got one character. He's incredible. likable. He's a super sweet soft guy. He plays that perfectly. He cannot play anything else. He can play super sweet soft guy. That's Tom, super sweet soft guy. I can't wait. I can't wait

until Tom Hanks plays both Phil Jackson and Michael Jordan in the goddamn Chicago Bulls. You're going to let Tom Hanks blackface, bro? I need him to prove that he's the greatest living actor of all time and that's the only way he'll be able to do it. Will you let him blackface to do it? Will you let Tom Hanks blackface to do it? Michael Jordan is not black. He's Michael. So he could mic face? Can he mic face? But I don't know. Can Tom Hanks Mike face to play Michael Jordan in a book?

He can't mic face. He can do Phil Jackson, though. Obviously he could do Phil Jackson. Bro, all Nicholas does is action movies, man. Stop playing, bro. Raising Arizona. That's all he does. That's all he does.

Raised Arizona. Never saw it. I thought that shit was about him drinking fucking iced tea. It was. It was? Yep. Oh, okay. I didn't know what the fuck that was.

Ghost Rider, like all that. Ghost Rider, bro. That's action. Doug. That's all he does. I'm telling you, we had this whole conversation. National treasure, action. Natural treasure is not action.

It's like mystery, suspense, you know, treasure hunting. Nicholas Cage has never been in a movie without a gun. Say again? Nicholas Cage has never been in a movie without a gun. Ghost Rider. Moonstruck. Moonstruck. Leaving Las Vegas or something like that.

That old shit? That old shit? Come on. Dude, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, Nicholas Cage is the greatest living American actor. It's either him, the greatest living American actor in terms of how dynamic they are. It's either him or, um, what's the guy who's in Cheers?

He was the funny guy in Cheers. Fucking, um, uh, Chevy, not Chevy Chase, fucking Dan Aycroid. Nah, he played him. Not Dan Aykroy. I know you're talking about, um, Whoopi Goldberg's ex-husband. No, no, not him. That's Ted Danson.

Woody Harrel. Woody Harrelson and Woody Harrelson and, um, and Nicholas, Cage is the greatest living American actors. Simple as that. In terms of how dynamic they are. Tom Hanks doesn't exist. Tom Hanks got nothing on Denzel, so don't even talk to me about Tom Hanks.

Like, Denzel is leagues above Tom Hanks. We don't even have to have to have that conversation. But you talk about God-like actors. Obviously, I'm talking about God-like actors. Nick Cage. Nicholas with Keanu Reeves, bull. Say again? Nicholas with Kiano Rees.

And I love Keanu. First of all, you're trying to say that as this is a thing of disrespect? And Keanu Reeves is unbelievable. Keanu's a beast. Say again? Keanu's a beast. Keanu is a beast, bro. He made three John Wick movies.

He said four words in all three movies, bro. And all over a fucking movies. Name one other actor could do that. And all over a fucking dog. That's it. And Peter never gave fucking Keanu a goddamn award. Not a thing. Give him a fucking award.

I love Keanu Reeves. Devils advocate one of my favorite fucking movies. There we go. The first Matrix. But to me, Keanu, Nicholas, Cage, they're all on the same level. And by the way, it's a great level. I'm not saying, I'm not shitting on it.

What you're talking about is Mount Rushmore. You're talking about Mount Rushmore of actors is Keanu Reeves, Nicholas Cage, and Woody Harrelson, okay? Get the fuck out of here! Nah, ducks. Who does Woody make it over? Woody don't make it over Denzel? What do you don't make it over, Tom?

Denzel is fourth. Denzel is fourth. Denzel barely makes it in. He barely makes it in, but he's fourth. Denzel can't do comedy, but he's so good at the drama and he's so good at the action that you have to give it to him. Woody's did not make it over time, bro. Honestly,

John C. O'Reilly almost makes it over Denzel. John C.O. I don't even know who the fuck that is. I don't even know who that is. If I'm going to be honest, I'm being honest. I have no idea who the fuck Pat Riley seal is. Joe, listen, John C. O'Reilly, bro. He can do drama.

He can do comedy. He can do multi. It's dynamic. Notice we haven't said one female actor or actor. Notice not a single female actress comes close. That's because we're fucking sexist. We're sexist picks. Man, get the fuck out of here, man.

Yo. John C. Riley? John C. Riley? Get that fuck out of it. I'm sorry. I never, listen, I don't even know his name. I know his face and I've always hated his face. But he's in fucking, he was fucking in Ralph breaks the fucking internet.

That's what I'm talking about. Wrecking Ralph. Wrecking Ralph. My man, wrecking Ralph. He's a goddamn joke. No, dog. Those are really Mount Rushmore. John C. Riley was in day. I never knew knew his name. He was in Days of Thunder. I never knew his name.

I never knew his name. Mount Rushmore is, and I'm biased because I love Denzel. But if I was being objective, completely objective, Mount Rushmore, John C. Riley. Stop. Keanu Reeves. Stop. Nicholas Cage. Honestly, I take John C. Riley out. It's Denzel, Woody Harrison, Nicholas Cage. and then the other one. I got Denzel, Tom Hanks.

Not Tom Hanks. It's preposterous. It's preposterous. It's preposterous. Yo, Tom Hanks' roles are so diverse, bro. It's the same thing every single time. It really isn't. It really isn't.

Middle-aged emotional white guy. Middle-aged emotional white guy. It's hard to play that. And make people give a fuck. For you? Think about it. For you. Think about it.

Think about it. I'm being a middle-age emotional white guy, my entire life. We felt bad for Tom Hanks and Castaway. We felt bad for him in Forrest Gump. We felt bad for him in big. You know how hard it is to get a black man to feel bad for a privileged white man? He was on an island.

He was on an island with a volleyball and then he was retarded. You could feel bad for those people. You're really going to be a check your privilege, Tom Cruise or Tom Hanks, whatever. Check your privilege on that island. Won't you check your... Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. When Tom Hanks is trying to...

escape off that goddamn island. His love for Wilson, that fucking volleyball, when Wilson got de-attached from that little raft, that motherfucker almost killed himself trying to save fucking Wilson, bro. It's the illest shit ever seen in my life. The only thing I hate about Castaway, they didn't show him jacking off.

What? They didn't never show him jacking off. You know, he was on an island for years. He jacked off. Yeah. I mean, what do you think he was eating for the first three months? A protein, baby. Come on.

That's why my hair grew so fucking fast. That's what I had been grows so fucking fast. That's what the fuck happened. Listen. Disrespectful. I know you were acting a little while with that, but you'll take it back once you see this.

Disrespectful. Joe Exotic. Once you see Nick Kay's play Joe Exotic. That's whack. And I'm going to tell you why that's whack. We just had this great fucking docu-series, reality, show, whatever. Why do we need that in a scripted version?

Some, we don't. Why? We don't have to remake everything, bro. We don't have to meet. make everything. Like we saw it. Like what could be better than that? Like seriously, we saw the real life. That's like imagine somebody came right now and said, you know what we're going to do? We're going to do a scripted movie about Michael Jordan's last year in the NBA. Do you really think it could be remotely as good as the shit we just seen? Yeah, but who's going to play Jordan though?

I have no idea. It's a great idea. I mean, you could go out on. I mean, if you're going, I don't know. I really, I really don't know. I have no idea. All right. Let's do some ask a fucking idiots, man, to get the fuck out of here. Let's do we. Did you, okay, I got him right here. All right. You have a idiot. Y'all got them.

Okay. Oh, this is a good one. Maserah wants to know, does God prioritize the earth first or the humans that live on it? Wow. Does God prioritize the earth first or the humans that live on it?

I mean, so far he's been prioritizing the humans that live on it, right? haven't we been fucking the earth up? I don't think he's prioritizing it. You think he's prioritizing it. I think God prioritizes life period. And it's up to us what we prioritize,

prioritize, right? Because you can live as you can be a human living on this earth and forget to prioritize God. Right. So when you forget to prioritize God, you start taking matters in your own hands. Right. And you start, you start you know, being more of the human flesh than of the spirit.

And when you start being more of the human flesh than your desires change and the things you give value to change. Right. When you start tearing down fucking trees to put Starbucks up. Right, right, right. Shit like that. So I think that God prioritizes life. And when we stop prioritizing God, then he may not necessarily prioritize us.

Got you. That makes sense. Like God doesn't distinguish between the. the life on earth and the life as a human being. All of it is just life. I think that's how we should approach it. I think if we approach things like where all God's creatures,

I think we would move a little bit different. Not even just with each other as humans, but just in our interactions with like, you know, fucking... The environment. Animals, the environment, like tree, everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, Quentin, JG. 87,

Ask an idiot. He says, he says, Coach, what's the favorite comedy? special. Elephant in the room. Well, in history, it's probably delirious by Eddie Murphy. In recent history, elephant in the room by Patrice O'Neill. That was my favorite one.

I saw it live and I saw it on TV. It holds up. It's got everything. I mean, he's going in a crowd. He's doing bits. He's just, in my opinion, he's the greatest of all time. And you get to see him at his peak. And he's just a force to be reckoned with like so effortlessly funny.

and just brilliant and like, you got a, that's Patrice right there. Where's the image? How long, how, how, that's why we got a picture of him right here in the studio. Can you see? Who do you see Patrice in nowadays? Man, it's tough.

I mean, he's always been someone that I've emulated, like this guy who's like speaking honestly and like speaking, you know, there's like schools of thought, I think that you like come up under. A lot of comics in New York come up under like the Dave Attell School of Thought. You know, he's an iconic comic.

one of the best I've ever seen. And a lot of comics came up under him. And I think there was a lot of comics that came up under Rock and then Chappelle. And I think I was a rock guy until I found Patrice. And I realized, oh shit, now that's actually the guy who's most similar to me

and like the way I think about the world. Or I'm most similar to him, the way I think about the world, the way I think about jokes, the conversational nature. And so it's like, I've always wanted to be under that school of thought, you know?

And then continue that school of thought. And hopefully there are people who come up under me and they're like, oh, I fucks with that. You know, if you fuck with that, you really, if you fuck with what I do, you fuck with what Patrice does. You just don't know Patrice maybe. Does that make sense?

Yeah, absolutely. I just think that he's so fucking talented and brilliant. He's a brilliant idiot in so many ways, man. Like, he would. He always made sense. Oh, yeah. It was always some logic. It didn't seem like he was ever wasting jokes for the sake of telling jokes.

I mean, I'm not going to say he reminds me of, but I like people like that. I like people like him. Yeah. You know, D.L. Yeah. Chappelle, Chris Rock. Like, they just always feel like

they're trying to make you think. Yeah, I think you guys would get along. Did you ever meet him? I don't think I ever met Patrice, but I do remember when I was first starting with Wendy back in like 06, 06-07. And when I think about it, like a lot of us were doing like these talking head stuff.

So we was doing these talking head segments for VH1. VH1 used to do like those. I love the 80s. I love the 90s shows or some shit like that. Yeah. Tiffany Hatters. That's when I first ran into Tiffany. You know, she was at one of those, she was shooting one of them the same day I was. But I remember Patrice telling one of the producers at VH1, like, I don't get this Charlemagne

the God shit. What the fuck is this, what the fuck is this Charlemagne the God shit? I heard that. I was like, what do you mean? He doesn't get it. And he was like, he just, he said, I don't know. He said, I don't know. Yo, I think that you guys would have got along.

I think you guys would have had a lot of mutual respect. because what Patrice is to me, the best way I could describe it probably right now is like he is six foot something 300 pound black Larry David. Oh, that would have been great. You know what I'm saying? And like he's unapologetically black. He is in whatever his environment. He is in, he is being himself.

It doesn't matter. It makes you uncomfortable. It doesn't matter if it makes someone else uncomfortable. He has to speak how he feels. And if he catches you being fraudulent, he catches you being fake. He is not afraid to call you out on that shit, even if it makes the dinner fucking ruined.

Just like Larry cannot, he cannot not be himself. And I just love people that are so fucking honest with themselves, man. Yeah, I remember hearing Chris Rock say one time that somebody asked him if, what would we be doing if Patrice is alive? And Chris was like, if Patrice was alive, we'd all be working for him.

That was a while ago, he said that, too. That was years ago. He said we'd all be working for. I honestly, I wish that that'd be true, but I don't think that he would ever be a guy who could be that big because he got in his own way about that. And I think sometimes you've got to play the game in order to get to that level. And he was a guy who just wasn't going to play the game at all.

I think he was maybe burned by the game or something. But like, I think what was so great about what we love so much about is he was so raw and so honest. And a guy who's that raw and that honest and operating in an industry that's really fucking fraudulent, usually those things don't mix. Absolutely, you know. But yeah, man, go check out Patrice, man.

To Jel, Naik wants to know if I had a roast, who would he want? Who would I want to be roasting him? Ooh, we got to do the Charlemagne roast. I mean, I got all my friends are comics. That's what I'm saying. It'd be good. That shit would be fire. You know what I mean?

Like, I would have Andrew, of course. Duval, D.L. Hughley. Amanda Seals, Pete, I'd have Pete Davidson. I think Jesse May would be good at that too. Yeah. Jesse May. I don't know.

I got so many comedian friends. I would definitely run through my roller decks of everybody. Only name I would skip is Donnell Rallis. What? Donnell is the only person I wouldn't fucking call on purpose. Why? Because I know it would hurt his fucking feelings. I know it would hurt him off.

And I would let him know. that hey, I would put it out. I'm having a roast. Charlamagne de Guy. It's going to be a roasted Charlemagne de Gaid. I would put in big bowl letters. I'm going to have some of my favorite comedians, some of the funniest people on the planet.

You know all of my friends are some of the funniest motherfuckers on the planet. You know, I only roll with the best, baby. I only roll with the cream with a crop of comedians. I'm only going to have the best on my roast. You know I got access to a lot of comedians, right? And you know a lot of comedians are my friends. So look at the list. I would literally have 40 different comedians on my shit

and none of them would be Donnell just to piss him the fuck off. Just to have him text my phone and be like, see what I'm saying, son? See this the fuck I shit I'm going to be talking about and I would just send him back an eggplant emoji and a smiley face. Listen, everybody was texting me about Donnell on Joe Rogan.

I saw him. What happened with that? Donnell is a sensitive. motherfucker. That's it. He's just a sensitive ass dude and I know he's sensitive so I fuck with him.

And that's what he told Joe when Joe was like, the funniest shit about that shit was Joe Rogan was like because Joe thought he was joking. Yeah, yeah. And then when Joe realized he really felt the way Joe was like,

well, have you talked to him about this? And he was like, and Donnell was like, yes. And the motherfucker is going to tell me you're a sensitive motherfucker. That's why I won't stop. He's a what?

He's a what? I told him, I told you a sensitive motherfucker. And that's why I'm never going to stop fucking with you. You're sensitive. He can't be a... I don't like sensitive comedians. Now, this, can you break down, like, where the sensitivity began?

I think I know, I think I know the prank that you played on him, where this might have started. I've played a million of them. He talked about one on Joe Rogan. It was like the first time I told everybody, in the room, I said, no matter what Donnell says, do not laugh. Don't laugh. He's a comedian. He's selling Carolines. He comes in there first 10 minutes. He's going. He's hard. We're just all sitting there looking at him. Not saying a goddamn thing to the point where Donnell go, I'm going to post that

on social media this week. I'm going to throw back Thursday. And to the point where Donnell goes, this is a cold room. This room is. And it's like, yo, by the way, every time, Donnell comes to the breakfast club. People love Donnell's interviews. They love our interaction with each other. They love us fucking with him. Just like they like when he fucks with me on social media. I'm not stopping.

And neither is he. Right. Okay. The difference between me and Donnell is I don't give a fuck. Right. I repose. Oh, I'm going to tell another thing I love to do to Donnell. I'm going to tell what I love to do.

Donnell go out of his way. I don't know who. I think he got the brother's name. He got a guy that helps him make the memes and shit. So they'll have these great memes where they'll take like my face and put them on like people's bodies and not pictures. Like the person's moving in the video. I saw that. Yeah.

And he'll put his tag at Donnell Rawlins. I'll send it to my digital guy. I send it to Nick. I'll send it to Sim. I'm like, blurr Donnell's name and send me this video. I'm going to repost it. And I repost it. I repost it.

I repost it. And I take, I'll be like, I'll be like I repost it with like a nice little caption. Like the workout video, he posted two workout videos, right? And the workout videos is this gay guy with my face and he's dancing. So I'll reposted both of them and put, yo, I'm just trying to stay tight during this quarantine, whatever, whatever. Rips, rips, 700,000 likes, a million likes, 2,000, 3,000 comments. No at Donnell Roberts in the goddamn video at all. He was upset about that too.

I know. And I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. Yo, Charlemagne, you really got the Black Panther outfit on where, like,

you know, if you punch him, it makes them stronger. You're taking a Black Panther approach to Donnell? Listen, I love it. What did he say, Taylor? What did Donnell say? He was like, yeah, because I was talking about, like, getting one of the Bullion Beast, and he was like, and he was like,

and they were talking about Charlom, he's like, yeah, you know, Salamane thinks he's funny now posting Shalem thinks he's funny now posting my name, whatever like that. Like, okay, I'm gonna get him back.

I'm gonna get him back. Bro. Listen, if Donnell ever since his screenshots out, when I terrorize him via text, I'll text Donnell shit like, I'll never give you credit. Like, just little stupid shit. It drives him fucking crazy.

Doug, that no laughing shit made me fucking crack up, dude. There was once a time where like Akash, so we got this comic buddy named Mike Blouse now, right? And like getting passed at a comedy club in New York is a really big deal. And it's hard to, right? And if you get an opportunity to audition to get past where you get to work there regularly, like it's a huge deal. So Akash called up this comedy club owner from stand-up New York and said, yo, can you do me a favor and give my boy Mike an audition and we're actually going to prank him. So Akash is hosting the show and he told the whole audience not to laugh when Mike goes up for the audience.

Oh man. Akash you sick bastard. I love it. He tells the whole audience now. Mike thinks it's a real audition. So he goes there. He's texting us during the day. He's like, should I wear this type of thing?

What do you think I should do? Like, should I wear a hat or is that, you know, I'm becoming to me. If I'm wearing a hat, we're like, I go with the hat. They love the hat, blah, blah, blah. Now, Mike is the type of comic where he's really big in the act outs. You know how some comics they just stand there due to one-liners? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mike is the opposite.

He's up, he's jumping, he's dancing. You know what I'm doing. Oh, my God. He's doing characters. He's doing voices. Oh, he's sweating. Bro, like, he's sweating. So he goes up there, he does his audition.

The audience isn't, we're talking about PACs sold-out crowd. The audience isn't moving. He's doing characters. He's doing. act outs. He's squatting down on his knees. He's doing every knee possibly can, right? He lands his one punchline. The punchline that's going to save him no matter what, the thing that always gets a laugh

on the audition for the first club he could pass at, right? He lands the line, nothing, and he just goes, he just goes, whew! I wish I could see that whole shit in my head. I wish I had saw that. I promise you, if you see me at a comedy show and I'm dying laughing, it's because either somebody is extremely. funny or they're bombing. And when you're really funny, I'm really not laughing that much because I'm so in tune to

what you're saying. I don't want to miss shit. Yeah. Right? I've watched plenty of comedy shows and just been sitting there chuckling and then at the end, I'm like, yo, that was brilliant. Yeah. Right?

Because that's what I'm looking for. But if you're bombing, I'm dying. Taylor knows. Taylor bill with me at a comedy show. I'm crying. It was a white girl. She was horrible. Wait, wait, what happened?

His laugh was making other people laugh because it was so bad. Wait, wait, what happened? What happened? What happened? The only other person that understands this like I do is wax in Duvall. Wait, what happened?

Bro. She was doing impressions, man. And them shit just wasn't landing. And so when she would do the impression, the audience, and she's a white girl and said Caroline's opening up for a black person. So she's doing these impressions, and some of them are about black people. And so when she says them, they're not landing.

And the crowd is going silent. And I'm sitting there trying to hold it. But the longer they're quiet. And what I loved about her, what I loved about the show, she didn't give up. So she just kept letting them impressions fly. And it seemed to the crowd like I was the only one enjoying them. But that wasn't the case. I was like, I just like seeing the bomb, man.

It's just something about it. It's just something about watching somebody bomb that is so fucking funny to me, bro. And especially when they fight through it. When they act like the audience isn't, when they fight through it, when they just keep going, just keep punching, man. You like to see someone swing, huh? I like seeing them swing. Don't give up.

Don't be like Hannibal Burris. What happened? I seen Hannibal who, seen the crowd getting the best of him one night. One night of stage got the best of Hannibal. And Hannibal goes, this ain't working for y'all. I love it. I love it. I love it.

I love it. But yeah. But yeah. I'm going to tell you another time I pissed Donnell off. Donnell posted a picture. Yeah. During the quarantine of him brushing his hair. Yeah.

Because, you know, he really got the George Jefferson shit, right? Like bald aside. I took his picture. I texted him. And I said, Yo, you put my face on this and I'll, you know, tag you, whatever, whatever. He sent it right back. I posted it and didn't tag him.

So he's in my comments talking about, that's my head, son. You know how stupid that sounded? You randomly in my mentions talking about that's my head and nobody saw it. Like, nobody gave a fuck. Oh, I love it so much, man. Shout out to Donnell Rawlins. You know, we need to get him on. Maybe we should get him on and have like a little, you know,

see if we can make a peace treaty between you guys. We should have him on and then we mute him out the whole podcast. We should have him on and make sure it's like a super long podcast for like two and a half hours. And then just mute him the whole podcast. Bro. You'd be so mad. I think that's it. Salute to my guy, Donnell Ryan.

Fucking crazy ass, sensitive-ass comedian. Anything else shows? Nah, that's great, man. Let's do it. Listen, as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant,

you're absolutely right. If you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right. It's a brilliant idiotist podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.