The Brilliant Idiots - Listen To The Lisp

Episode Date: September 12, 2019

This week Charlamange and Andrew discuss eating helathy, Antonio Brown's week, what is freedom, and lots more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:01:54 Yo, Australia, we're coming next week. Matter of fact, let me get those out. Do you have any? I can get these up right now? Yeah, I'm going to be in Milwaukee. today. Oh shit. Today I'm going to be in Milwaukee.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I'll be at the Turner Hall Ballroom. How long are you in Milwaukee? I'm literally only there for a few hours. Excellent food in Milwaukee. I love Milwaukee. That's my spot. Milwaukee is a dope city, man.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Yes, I'm going to be at the Minority Health Film Festival discussing my favorite thing to discuss, which is mental health. So pull up on me, Turner Hall Ballroom. Doors open at 11.30 a.m. 12 p.m. is an open panel discussion. 1 p.m. is a conversation with me. that it's a day after Turner Hall ballroom.
Starting point is 00:02:34 So hopefully we get this out in a timely manner. Question. When you do these talks in front of crowds. I get anxiety. Yeah, I was going to ask. Like, are you, do you get nervous before? Absolutely. You know it's so crazy?
Starting point is 00:02:47 Because like when you write a book, right? Yeah. You just put it out to the world. People read it. It is what it is. It's a book that is about your anxiety and, you know, with depressing and PTSD and issues with your father, whatever vulnerable stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Now you've got to sit in front of people. And talk about it. Yeah. And every time I do it, no matter where I do it at, it always feels like I'm in therapy, and I literally feel like I'm up there, butt-necked, just stepping out the shower, shrinkage, and I don't want nobody to see me,
Starting point is 00:03:13 including my wife, every single time. And did you feel that way when we would do idiots live? No. So this is completely different now that, like, the tough exterior is shed. Absolutely. There's no jokes. This is real.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah, it is. We're just out there cutting the shit. We're fucking around, having a good time, like, laughing, joking. This shit is like, oh, shit. You really feel that vulnerable because I'm not comfortable talking about my anxiety and depression and going to therapy in front of large crowds. Which is the irony of the whole situation. There's something that people have always asked me about like the live performance. They're like, aren't you nervous?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Like what happens if, you know, you bomb or these types of things? And while I can get nerves in the live performance, I actually prefer it because I feel like there's some semblance of control. For example, some guy heckles me or some chick heckles me. I can react to that. Even if a joke doesn't go well, I can react to that. I find that like putting out a project like the special or a book is way more nerve-wracking and vulnerable. Because even though you control all the variables until you put it out, once it's out, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:23 That doesn't give you more nerves than when you release a book and you're like, that's it. It's printed a million times. and that's the fuck the way it's going to be. I'm glad you know that I get printed a million times. That's great. Yo, can we flex? I'm trying to throw that out there a little bit. But, yeah, I mean, I just think it's like,
Starting point is 00:04:39 it's a different level of content. Like, when you put something out that you can look back, like I think you're comfortable doing stand-up. Yeah. So you know you control the environment, you fuck around, but when you're talking about something that's a little bit out of your comfort zone because these aren't things that you've been talking about publicly for years. If I'm on some political show or some shit like that or even like talking about emotional shit,
Starting point is 00:04:56 it's a different. Even the political shit don't scare me no more. I love you like you're well. like you're well versed in it. Yeah, and I mean, I love being on CNN and MSNBC and all these different networks because it's not even just about politics anymore. It's pop culture. That's your outlet.
Starting point is 00:05:08 You got to thank Obama and Trump for that. You know what I'm saying? Like, they made the political conversation a pop culture conversation. So everything intertwined. Like I was on Don Lemon this week and we was talking about... I saw you with your arm over? That's my guy. Like y'all were in the Hamptons?
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah. Did he ask you if it smelled like anything? Nah, nah. Damn, bro. But we were talking about Dave Chappelle Stix and Stone. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that came out of a conversation of me saying people don't understand nuance anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Right. Because he was talking about Trump. And that came from Trump and Chrissy Teigen going at it. Because Trump was like, I want some motherfucking credit for this first step back. Yeah. Because y'all not giving it to me. And I'm like, he does deserve credit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:46 He's the president. Yeah. He passed a bill. Like, 7,000 people got released from prisons this year. Majority of them black. Yeah. So why wouldn't you give Trump some credit for that? Like, I'm not that biased.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I don't hate Trump that much to not tell the truth. I want to be objective at all times. So me saying that and saying people don't understand nuance anymore, led into, you know, Don's saying, well, you know, you say people don't understand nuance. So did you see Stick and Stone Special? And so that was a whole different conversation, but it's all politics.
Starting point is 00:06:15 It's all pop culture. Even Dave Special is opening up conversations about, you know, where we are as a society. Right. So it just all makes sense. It's all intertwined nowadays. I don't even feel, I don't feel off when I'm, I used to see you on that show.
Starting point is 00:06:28 What that show used to do? Red Eye. Red Eye. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You seemed like you was in your element. Yeah, because it was like, it was a new show, but it was specifically geared towards, like, being funny. Like, I think they took on pop culture topics, and they were asking me for a funny take. I didn't have to, like, inform people.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They had, it was crazy. They used to have, like, that guy, John Bolton, who was the national security guy that Trump just fired. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, he used to come on all the time. Did he resign? I saw a resignation letter. Oh, my understanding was
Starting point is 00:07:00 Trump said he fired him. Trump acts like he fires everything. Trump's like the guy who gets broken up with and I was like, no, I told that bitch. He's got to resign. Then Trump said, let me think about it. And then fired up. Yo, that's great.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Yo, that's how y'all got to do your girlfriends, bro. Don't get broken up with. Yeah, let me think about us not being together. Then you break up with her on Instagram. Give me a day. Yeah, but I mean, listen, yeah, I mean, that's the only time I do feeling anxiety when I'm having those uncomfortable conversations about anxiety.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Because I don't want nobody to look at me at, I don't want nobody to look at me as an expert when it comes to anything. Like I always say, I'm just a human being who got some experiences and I share my experiences. Even on those political shows, I'm just giving my opinion. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, of course you state some facts, you know, when you're dealing with certain things.
Starting point is 00:07:43 But I'm just giving my opinion. Yeah. Me saying, you know, Trump should get credit for the first step back is my opinion. But I would hope that's a fact. Yeah. That's an honest statement. He is the president. Like.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And I like going on there as like a not necessarily expert, but, let's, you know, as like a pundit when it comes to pop culture. Like, one of the things that I had to kind of learn is it, like, when I go on these shows, it's like, I'm the comedian on this show. I'm not no fucking truth teller. I'm not this like expert. You are, no, no. But my lens to tell truth is comedy.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Comedy. Yeah, yeah, I got you. And I feel like once comics or a lot of people, once they take this responsibility of being like this moral virtue signal type of person, I think that's when you lose everybody. Absolutely. Especially you lose your comedy, right? Because all of a sudden you're making judgments on people on this serious show and then you want to tell this silly joke about women.
Starting point is 00:08:35 They're like, how could you say that joke about women? How could you say that joke about illegal immigrants? We're over here trying to be this pious person. So for me, creating a little bit of separation between that. Like, I like being the comedian. I like the freedom of that. You know what I mean? I'm not trying to be anything different.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I just like being me. I just like being me. Don't label me with any of these social comedians. constructs. Right. Okay. I'm just me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:00 All right. I don't have any identity of nothing. I just want to go on here and motherfucking perform. That's it. And I don't even want to say perform because even perform it sounds like you, you know, pretending to do something. I just like to go up here and have real honest conversation. Like we would have anywhere else. You ask me a question.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I'm going to tell you how I feel about it. Right. I'm not pandering in those audience. I'm not on no one side. You ask me how I feel about something. I'm going to tell you. Yeah. Donald Trump deserve.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Credit for the first step back? Yes. 100%. Yeah. It's not even... I think everybody finds their tool to get their, like, truth out. But you start looking...
Starting point is 00:09:36 I'm going to tell you when you start looking stupid, though. It's when you use a different tool. When you start using a different tool and you're not really being truthful. You're not being authentic because it's not you. You're being truthful based off what you think public perception is going to be, especially in this area because we can all go to our phones immediately
Starting point is 00:09:49 and get that validation. I don't do that shit. When I go do this CNN, MS, I'm not even look at that shit. Dude, you know what I think about sometimes? It's like, like, like, There's certain comics, right, that they'll end up like going to stump for a president, right? And I, or like even a politician or somebody. And I see them stumping and they're effective.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I think even Chappelle stumps for his cousin all the time. Ben Jellis. Ben, yeah, Ben, Jellis. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, it's kind of effective, but it would be 10 times more effective if you just wrote a hilarious bit that showed why he was great for that job. But that's because every politician now, and that's where the Democrats are fucking up, They need pop culture angles, baby. Sure, but it's also that's the most organic form of view.
Starting point is 00:10:32 That's the most authentic form of you. Like seeing Chappelle be very serious about something and having no punchline or whatever, you're almost like, uh, what's going on? There are certain people who that's their lane is being serious and saying how it is, et cetera, and you expect that from them. But like- Use your means of messaging to get the message out. Use your fucking tool. And I think like, I think that was a mistake I definitely made earlier on is like,
Starting point is 00:10:54 I saw other people speaking on things and it was like, well, I must speak on them. I was like that. I was like, that's not how I get it done. That's when people who didn't even know you was a comedian. Exactly. We had to educate. Yeah, they thought you was the second coming of Ben Shapiro. It was like, who was this guy?
Starting point is 00:11:06 He'd be like, Ben Shapiro, Tommy Lauren, Andrew Shost. I'm like, nah, bra. Like, you all got to fucked up. And that's on me too is because I got to do the branding. Like, if I had all. Would you meet too? What did you say? That's on me as well.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Oh, okay. That's on me. Like, I got to make sure I got to be aware of my own branding, which is like, I should have been had clips out. I should have been had things out showing that that's my sense of humor. I'm taking on these hard topics. I'm trying to find a funny angle in these things. And now the reaction I get now when I say something wild is, oh, that's what he does.
Starting point is 00:11:38 He's a comedian, absolutely. And a specific type. Like, I am going for that very difficult, tricky topic to make funny. And there is, it's high risk, high reward. It's like that free solo. You ever see that documentary free solo about that guy who climbs the big ass mountain with no ropes or nothing? I mean, it's insane. But the idea is like...
Starting point is 00:11:57 Is it about suicide? Clearly. Nah. But like... I mean, it's a totally different thing. I think he's a 100% serial killer, but this is where he went with it. Like, he has the same makeup as a serial killer.
Starting point is 00:12:08 But he found another outlet to, like, get that rush. That thrill, yeah. That thrill, right? And it's like... But just high stakes, high reward. I like the idea of the topic being so dangerous that if it's bad, it's really bad. But if it's good, it's like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:12:21 It's really good. And you even see who's Chappelle special. It's like, when you take some risk, motherfuckers are talking. And everybody, contrary to the popular belief, oh, no, let me take that back. Contrary to the Internet's popular belief, the world is receiving Dave Chappelle's special in an amazing way. So is the Internet. We're talking about 10 blogs that don't care about it.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Yes, and that was the whole thing with Don. And by and mind you, Don is a part of the LGBT community. And Don was asking me about the special because he likes the special. Right. He was like, I thought it was funny. Yeah. My other home girl from MSNBC, I'm not going to say her niggas. I don't know if she wants me to.
Starting point is 00:12:54 but older white woman when she saw that I was coming up on CNN to talk about this special she sends me this long email she was like Charlemagne please don't go in on Dave you know I'm like well how would I go in on Dave she's like don't go in on Dave
Starting point is 00:13:06 what he's doing is necessary for the culture and we got to start having these uncomfortable conversations that's the only way we're going to get to an understanding this is an older white woman that works at MSNBC Yo you know what's interesting did you see that clip that Comedy Central put out is maybe the first funny thing Comedy Central was put out
Starting point is 00:13:22 in like I don't know years 10 years You still do it's funny? They don't, but this was actually funny. Blake Griffin was on this roast in the roast of Alex Baldwin. I didn't like it. Now, the joke was, Blake Griffin was making a joke about Caitlin Jenner, who was on the dais. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Great content, terrible delivery. Let's play it. We can play. You can play the clip. I don't like a delivery, bro. That's fair. Regardless of whether you like the delivery or not, it's not even, I thought the joke was very good. Caitlin completed her gender reassignment in 2017.
Starting point is 00:13:54 finally confirming that no one in that family wants a white dick. hilarious. But he could have, he hesitant. It was that little hesitation. Sure, sure, fair enough. I mean, he's not a comedian. Listen, not being too tough one. Anxiety plays tricks on you sometimes.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I don't know if you know that at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, uh, yeah. So basically what happens is, um, Caitlin, to her credit, really fucking laughed at the joke, stood up, and I thought that that was a great statement. for like the trans community because it's like, hey, if we want to be treated like equals, we got to get some jokes to.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You got to get these jokes to. And look, it was a safe environment. Nobody wanted to beat her up. Context matters. Intention matters. Exactly. If the joke is to hurt you, please believe there are way better ways to hurt someone than a joke. Please believe.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And the trans community knows that more than anybody. Well, they know that more than anybody to. I saw me in middle school and high school. I'm saying. You got some good ones? I was in the guidance counselor's office. One time because a young man decided he wanted to cut his wrists. Really?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Because of that goddamn Leonard. What'd you say? What was the joke? Him and his sister used to look alike. You know what I'm saying? They're related. Yeah, but they used to really look alike. You look like a turtle?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Yeah, but I didn't look like them. They looked bad. They just looked alike. You know what I'm saying? And it wasn't even the fact of the jokes. It was the consistency of the jokes. One thing about me, I'm consistent. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:21 So meaning we used to catch the bus together in the morning. Right. So six o'clock, I'm on you. Oh, wow. They were riding the bus to school together. I'm on you. Right. Then I'm seeing you in class and I'm seeing you between classes.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I'm on you. Eventually you'll break. Yeah, yeah. It happens to the best of us. You know what I'm saying? Maybe all this anxiety you have is karma. Might be, bro. You might have earned this fucking karma, dog.
Starting point is 00:15:45 It might be. But I'm going to be honest with you, a lot of that back in the day when I think about it, it was me trying to keep people off me. Of course. So you go to school. Exactly. You got all the anxiety and you're the one that's really insecure and shit. And you're like, let me get them first.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yeah. Because it started with them clowning this shit out of me in sixth grade because I had glasses and the fanny packs hanging with all the white kids. So I would get clowns so much. I'm like, fuck it. If I can't beat them, join them. There we go. My shit, my snaps just became better. You pulled a Pearl Harbor.
Starting point is 00:16:15 What? Explain that to me. I agree with it. They fired first. Oh, yes. They pulled up first. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Preemptive strike.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Preemptive strike. Yeah. Preemptive struck. No, that's exactly what it is. And then when you realize, you know, you can make people laugh and people like to be around you because you're funny. And now Japanese people are some of the most anxious people have ever met in my life. Really? So maybe that's a problem.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Don't strike first. They probably got generational trauma from that shit. Maybe? Yeah. They also got a couple nukes. No, they're not worried. The boys pulled up. If they even think it's another pro haul but somebody's going to slip.
Starting point is 00:16:50 All right. Okay. I don't even look to fucking play with you. But yeah, whatever. Anyway, let me tell you, I got some little dates coming up. Australia, Maddo Or Tor. We're coming. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Perth, some tickets left for Perth. Oh, no, Adelaide. Adelaide. We got a few tickets left for Adelaide. Perth, almost sold out. Few tickets left. Brisbane, first show sold out. We added a second show.
Starting point is 00:17:16 A few tickets left for that. Sydney, first show sold out. At a second show. Melbourne, first show sold out, add a second show, and then third show is sold out. So there are a few tickets left for that. And then Sydney again,
Starting point is 00:17:30 I think that actually, the last Sydney show is sold out. So go to Theandrusshows.com right now. Go get your tickets. We added new shows to the site, Theandrisshows.com. You can get more Maddor tickets. New York Town Hall sold out.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I'm figuring out what I want to do with that. Do we add another show? Do we not add another show? We're a couple months out. Yeah. What's that? Oh, yeah, yeah, we got to do that. And then Boston, I think there might be a few tickets left for Boston.
Starting point is 00:17:58 But make sure you go get those right there. Seattle, almost sold out. Make sure go to theendishshows.com, get all the tickets. Get them early, man. I hate when I come into a market and you guys are like, yo, blah, blah, why don't you let us know? We couldn't get tickets this. I'm letting you know now. Let's go get them tickets right now.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Also, Brilliant Idiots, YouTube. We got a YouTube page up. Brilliant Idiots Pod. It's YouTube.com slash Brilliant Idiots Pod. That's where the full episodes and the clips. and everything. More behind the scenes footage we're going to be putting
Starting point is 00:18:23 up on that YouTube page. So go follow that right there. Let's talk on Antonio Brown. Yes. I really don't know why. Well, let's start from the beginning. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Antonio Brown forces himself out of Oakland. Right. Right? I don't know why people are applauding that move. Like, it's so funny to me. Are people applauding it? Oh, yeah. Who's applauding it?
Starting point is 00:18:46 All the pundits are saying that he's the most selfish player they've ever seen. The loud minority on social media was so behind AB because they think that it was some master plan that he concocted to get himself out of Oakland and find himself in New England. This is what you guys are essentially saying. He found a way to fuck up $21 million. Because AB was getting a guaranteed $30 million from Oakland. He's getting guaranteed nine from New England. So he found a way
Starting point is 00:19:17 to fuck up $21 million. Yes, he may be in a better situation. He'll probably win a Super Bowl, but that shouldn't be applauded. I'm not going to applaud the kind of behavior that causes you to lose that kind of money. So that assumption goes along with the idea that he won't make money next year. Listen, 30 million guaranteed, 31 years old, wire receiver, NFL. So let me ask you this, right? You got 20 plus a million in a bank, right? Not asking if you do have it.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I'm saying like, you know, but your pause was quite telling. but you have you have tax brackets now I understand you know Trump is pretty good guy getting those black people
Starting point is 00:20:00 out of prison a lot of those taxes I mean keep on doing you want to do That's the truth I know I'm teasing So A B I think got 20 cash
Starting point is 00:20:09 in a bank Right That's what he said You said he got 20 cash In the bank You said that? Yeah So if you have
Starting point is 00:20:15 20 cash in a bank Right Where did A.B. get $20 million from? I don't know. That's a good question. It was his first big contract. He was wanting that guaranteed money.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I don't know. I thought you looked that up, Angelo? Where did he get 20 million from? What does A.B. have cash in the bank? He said it somewhere in some interview. Maybe I'm mistaken.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Maybe it was 10. But he still had a significant amount just cash millions in the bank, right? I mean, he's been doing, you know, what's it called? Advertisements for companies and, like, sponsorships. Because he left Pittsburgh because he wasn't getting that check.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Fair. Yeah. Right? And he had just, he had just run amok. in Pittsburgh and then it was done. So you have $20 million in a bank. Do you want to, what does it say?
Starting point is 00:20:55 Net worth is around $30 million. Net worth is a lie, by the way. Yeah, that's bullshit. But it doesn't matter. So basically $20 million, right? Let's say he has $10. It doesn't matter. You have $10 million in the bank.
Starting point is 00:21:05 You get a guaranteed $9 million to play for a team that could go to the Super Bowl. Or you get the guaranteed $21 over X amount of years. It was $30. Or guaranteed $30 over X amount of years. for a team that won't go to the Super Bowl. So I think in his mind, he's going, well, why not just take this guaranteed nine this year?
Starting point is 00:21:23 We go to the Super Bowl. If I don't win it, I could get another contract next year for another guaranteed nine. I'll make the guarantee 30. Yeah, but why would you want to basically work in the NFL on a year-to-year basis? I think he's so wealthy that it doesn't matter to him. I don't know if he's that wealthy.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I don't know the man's pockets. Right. But I don't know. This is my assumption. My assumption is he's so wealthy, it doesn't matter to him. And what matters, to him now is he wants to get a ring. Imagine working for something your entire
Starting point is 00:21:51 fucking life and then being put in a position where you know that you're not going to go there. It would drive me crazy too. Why not just before you got... Because he wanted to go to the Patriots initially. And they wouldn't send him up. They were going to send a first round draft pick for AB. But why not say no, why not hold out until you get traded to
Starting point is 00:22:07 a team you want to go to? I think his whole thing was they're not going to trade me to a competitor. They're not going to trade me to a good team because they don't want to make a good team better and eventually have to go up against them. So why don't they just trade me to some bullshit? All right, fine, I'll go there. I'll say I'll accept it.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I'll cause a ruckus. I'll get out of there. It's not the first time a Drew Rosenhouse client has done this, right? I mean, that's what Terrell Owens had, and Drew had him back in the day. Same type of preseason antics. Terlowe on's fucked up, though. Fucked up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:33 And now what's happening with A.B. That's what I'm saying. So once again, you fucked over $30 million, because you had a guarantee $30 to get nine with some incentives to, I think they probably say the contract would worth up to $15. $15 with incentives. But we know in the NFL that means nothing. No, no. Instead of his work in the NFL, especially if you're in AB. Yeah, but he probably got to do a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And by the way, in New England, his workload ain't got, it's not going to be crazy. That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? So he's not going to get all of those catches and all of those yards. He might, I doubt it though. Like, they keep comparing this to Randy Moss. I think this team receiving call is way more loaded than when the Patriots had Randy Moss. It is absurd.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah. I mean, they just dropped to Marius Thomas. Like, you've got to be an amazing position to drop to Marius Thomas. He's a very good, he's like a tier two wide receiver. Yeah. And, but to have that core that you have, I mean, Josh Gordon looked unfucking real. Did you see him?
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yes, but no, did he play? He didn't play Sunday. Yeah, he did. I didn't even see him. Yeah, I think he got two touchdowns. The first one, he leaps in the air, catches the ball with contact, and then stops on a dime. He doesn't, dude, it was unreal.
Starting point is 00:23:41 He's just looking massive out of that. I thought of first half. He looks too big. But, my thing is this. Yeah. No disrespect. Did Josh Gordon? and AB, but I'm just saying, if I'm a franchise,
Starting point is 00:23:49 do you really put all your eggs in those baskets? Like, come on. Like, you got one guy dealing with addiction. Right. You don't know what could happen with him. Right. And then you got AB who's just unpredictable as fuck. You don't know what could happen to him.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Do you place all your bets on those two? You know what? I don't. But I think they're the type of organization that, like, they believe in them so much. You talk about having money? Like, them motherfuckers is always playing with house money. Oh, they're not only playing on the house money.
Starting point is 00:24:18 They believe in themselves. They believe in the structure. Like, they believe you could take a guy like Josh Gordon, right, and put him into that type of structure. And then all of a sudden he'll be. And they're right. And they're fucking, they're the army, dude. Yeah. What does the army do?
Starting point is 00:24:30 You could take a guy who is on drugs, you know, homeless, really struggling with mental health. And then you give him fucking structure in the army, the Navy, the Marines, whatever. And all of a sudden, he can become a respectable, you know, citizen. Yeah. And it's like, I think the Patriots truly believe in that. They truly believe that if you. give these motherfuckers enough structure and no game bullshit, that they'll be able to, you know, they'll be able to produce.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Now, will they have as much fun as another team? Absolutely not. Oh, listen. It's not going to be fun. You know what Gronk said on the shop. Grants said everybody on the Patriots gets treated the same. Even Tom Brady. Even Tom fucking Brady.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Yeah. Business all the fucking time. So I'm saying all that to say, okay, Antonio's on the Patriots. I still think it's foolish that he lost $21 million. You know what I'm saying? But now you fast forward. he's been accused of rape. He's been accused of rape
Starting point is 00:25:19 and like three different sexual assaults. Well, it's the same woman. Same woman. It was a woman that was his trainer. Yeah. On one of the instances, she said he came up behind her and jacked off. While she was watching a church video. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:30 There's pictures that show like they're fine. What do you mean? Pictures of what? Fine. With him jerking off? No, no, that they're like... What are you talking about? They're pictures that show them together again.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Well, he was the trainer. And the second time they said... He pulled his dick out. I think first time he pulled his dick out, second jerked off on her back. And third time he held her down. No, the first time he said he kissed her without consent. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Kist her without consent. Second time was a jerking off. Third time held it down and raped him. Wow. Now, I said this yesterday. I said, um, these allegations are... Let me see.
Starting point is 00:26:06 What is that? These are just like videos of them together. Taylor, you can't go from us talking about him jerking off to just showing us. videos in him line dancing with her. Like, I thought you were about to show me some, like, really intriguing shit. By the way, that don't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Like, just because they got pictures together. Now, that's one of the reasons I say that nobody's going to care about this AB shit. Right. Number one, AB's hot right now. Simping mind, the people will say it's a conspiracy. You know what I'm saying? Because the way he left Oakland now,
Starting point is 00:26:34 he's with the Patriots. And if you read her allegations, they're kind of easy for people to victim blame her. You know what I'm saying? because they're going to say, oh, she was the trainer. She came back three times. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:48 He kissed her without consent. She came back. He jerked off of her. It came back. Then he held it down and raped her. Then it'll be these videos that Taylor is showing me right now of them just together kicking it. So it's going to be easy for social media, that loud minority, the victim blame her. So they're not even going to care about these allegations.
Starting point is 00:27:06 And it's not a criminal case either. It's a civil case. Yeah. Like, civil case means it's about money. It's not about justice. They're not even going to care. I can't hurt them in any way, shape, or form. The question is, who do you think leaked this?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Oh, no, this has been coming down the pipeline. I know this is coming down the pipeline. Really? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've just been coming down the pipeline. How'd you know? Because I know mad people who work at all these news organizations. And they were like, yo, we're waiting for the perfect time to drop the...
Starting point is 00:27:30 No, they said Antonio Brown had some allegations against them. They'll probably be out in the next couple weeks. The Raiders knew. Oakland knew. Like, that... People knew that... If you're in the media, you know that shit was coming out of pipeline. See, it's like this.
Starting point is 00:27:43 right? You could be in the newsroom. You could be at radio. You see certain stories. Some people want to rush and break certain things. Some people are just like, oh, okay, they just wait and see what happens. And then once it gets to that certain point, like, all right, you put it out now. She just, the case is filed, you know? Because that's how it'll start. It'll start with, okay, I'm going to file a case against such and such. Yeah. Okay, so when she filed it, it'll be news. Whose church sermon, do you think they were watching? it would be very dope if it was Kirk Franklin because Kirk Franklin had a problem with porn
Starting point is 00:28:17 So it was like That energy That sexual energy inside of him Induced the masturbation Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah It's possible Now is that a compliment Let's say like you're a pastor
Starting point is 00:28:29 By the guy wants to jerk off around you You don't give a fuck what you watching Like we're looking at her from the perspective Of that turned Antonio Brown on I'm assuming that he jerked off on her by accident I'm assuming he was whacking off to the sermon And just it got on her No
Starting point is 00:28:42 he wouldn't give a fuck if she was watching sermons, Marvel movies, the BET did not matter. We're assuming, dude, it could have been a really great sermon. That's the other thing to remember, too. People are calling for his job. They're like, yo, he should be waived. I'm like, it's an accusation. Listen to O.J. Simpson.
Starting point is 00:28:58 It's an allegation. I'm not listening to O.J. Simpson. You didn't hear what he said? No, what he said? He goes, guys, I just want to let you know. It's an accusation, not the truth. Well, broken clocks are right twice a day. Once again, new hunt.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Who would know more than have? OJ can be a psychopathic murderer, but he can also be right in saying, accusations are just that, accusations. Like, that's the truth. Let things play the fuck out. Now, if it was a criminal case, I'd be like, all right.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Let's hear it out. No, yeah, but you might have to sit this one out. Right. Since you're playing this out in the court of law. Yeah. But if everything works out, then you come back. But if it's a civil case, yeah, you can play. Why not?
Starting point is 00:29:37 Why not? Innocence of proven guilty. It's not even about guilty. In a civil case, is it? Oh, yes, it is. I mean, you could be considered guilty, but still, like, in life. Could think about it, the lawyers could settle. And the lawyers could settle and say, fuck it. It's just cheaper to pay it instead of going back and forth to court.
Starting point is 00:29:53 That don't mean he's guilty either. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And oftentimes, like, I mean, that's how they extort you, right? That is how you get extorted. It is cheaper to just pay someone than go through all these lawyer fees to take the emotional and physical toll of having this thing in public. Going back and forth the court. Even having to go public, having to go in the news. Like, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Imagine how shitty it is right now. Let's say Antonio Brown, hypothetically, is innocent. Let's just say. I mean, he is until he's proven to it. But let's say he's innocent. This is a huge emotional toll that you got to fucking carry around. You got to play every week. Every single week.
Starting point is 00:30:29 You go to away games and they're like, let's go raping. Yes. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, isn't that, and let's say you got 20 million in the bank and she's asking for a million. I completely understand how people go, man, just give it a million.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I don't want to deal with this shit. I'm honest with you. If I'm innocent, I'm not paying shit. I'm not, that's you? I'll fight it. That's you? I get that. I'm just saying I understand the people that don't.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I understand the people that go, okay, cost one million. I could end up losing 10. I could lose 10 million. If you're someone who's like reputation is squeaky clean, like someone who relies on the reputation for their livelihood.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Yeah, you're going to settle that shit quick because you don't even want it out. Because it's not like back in the day where, you know, something could come out, People would let due process play out, let things go into court of law. They make that decision. And then they get not guilty. Like, okay, he is really not guilty.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Nope. Nowadays, shit gets played out in the court of public opinion. Muffogethers get ruined. Yeah. Period. But I just told you all the reasons this isn't going to affect Antonio Brown and no way she performed. So you think he's good, 100%? A hundred.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Patriots, undefeated. No. What does it take a team? They play the Dallas Cowboys this year, baby. Okay, sure. So what is it? Dallas Cowboys this year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:39 In Foxborough. In the regular season, baby. Okay. So I got my Cowboys look. Say what? You saw how good my Dallas Cowboys look? No, no, no, no. I'm with Dak, baby.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Dak looking like he's going to get a lot of money. They fucked up not signing Dak. Because he was about to, I think they agreed on like $32 million a year. And after that first game, that's coming up. Yes. That's coming up. And other deals are being done. And now he can see, you know, what the bar is.
Starting point is 00:32:04 You know what I mean? Then you look at somebody like Julio Jones, who just got $64 million guaranteed out of like a $6. a $67 million deal, and he's a fucking wide receiver. Julio Jones might have changed the way contracts are presented in the NFL forever. Why? Because it's mostly guaranteed? 97%. Like, he's not a quarterback? What did cousins get? Oh, oh, for non-quarterback positions. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:26 You're a wide receiver 31 years old. Yeah, yeah. And you got a 97% guaranteed contract? Yeah, it's a good deal. Come on, man. You fucking won in life. I would never pay a wide receiver ever, but yeah, it's a good deal. You wouldn't pay him shit? I don't, I mean, I've said, I feel like I said this a million times, but wide receivers and running backs are the most overpaid positions in football. Until you get Randy Moss. How many rings he got?
Starting point is 00:32:47 I mean, shit. He helped Brady, God damn, break every fucking record in the book, though. Except a ring. You got to be on a team. Even a great quarterback got to have a good team around. Name the last elite wide receiver
Starting point is 00:32:58 to win a ring. The last elite wide receiver to win a ring. I don't know. Because they don't win them. But they win them on a good team. They don't win them. You do not need an elite wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It is a waste of money for someone who doesn't affect the game at all. They don't affect the game on defense. And their most effective game is if they catch the ball eight times. That is not someone I'm going to give a lot of my money to. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think football is a sport that you could ever look at individuals and say individuals change games. Like it's a team effort all the way around. Exactly, right?
Starting point is 00:33:33 So that you need to diversify those funds for the whole team. And if you put all that money in a player like an Odell Beckham, who truly cannot affect the game enough. He can't affect the game on every single play. You know who affects the game on every single play? A defensive lineman? Offensive lineman. Every single play.
Starting point is 00:33:49 You know who affects the game every single play? A cornerback? You know what affects the game every single play? A quarterback. Like, to be honest, I wouldn't even dump too much money into quarterbacks, to be honest. But like running backs, dime a dozen. You can get them anywhere. Not quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Quarterbacks. Listen. Not phenomenal running backs either, bro. A phenomenal running back to mediocre running back doesn't matter. because if you have a good offensive line and you have a decent offense, you can get yards with them. But they're not going to carry the game.
Starting point is 00:34:14 They're not going to make shit completely different. I just would never pay a running back or a wide receiver. And the reason I wouldn't is because I look at the teams that have won championships and they don't have elite running backs for wide receivers. Definitely not wide receiver. Wide receiver is the most useless position of football. Dallas Cowboys, baby.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Who? A triangle back in the day. Dude, back in the day. Troy Eggman, Michael Irvin, and Ms. Smith. Sure. Now let me ask you a question. What did the Dallas Cowboys have that revolution the sport.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Offensive line. Now, when you have a great offensive line, that means you have more time to throw, so who gets to all of a sudden become elite? Your wide receivers and your running back. Pay that offensive. Just do whatever the Patriots fucking do. It's really
Starting point is 00:34:54 not that hard. Well, the Dallas Cowboys are going to do it this year, God damn. But they're not because, you know what they did? They paid a running back tons of money. That's fine. And Patriots would never do that. They paid a quarter, they're going to pay a quarterback tons of money. That's fine. Tom Brady always takes... Offensive line is kicked the fuck up. And everything else is at a bargain.
Starting point is 00:35:10 We're going to see. Everything else. Everything else is at a bargain. We're going to see? They might not pay, homie. Who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Amari Cooper? They might not. And to be honest, Amari Cooper opened up your whole offense. You got Amari and all of a sudden you had that deep threat. Motherfuckers had to start respecting it. Not because they had Zeke before Amari. They had Zeke before Amari.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah. And then Amari came in and all of a sudden it was like, oh shit. But I think Zeke makes it easier for them to have a passing game. I think both, right? It's like before you had a deep threat, you could just stack the box because you knew you weren't going deep. And I also think that your Akos brought this up on Flager and he was like, that Gallup, is that his name? Who's the other wide receiver? He's a second year wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And people forget, like, you're still a kid when you entered the NFL. Absolutely. A second year is a big difference. Absolutely. So now you're going to see him start to make strides. And other X factors that are back, Jason Whitten at tight-in back. Yo, Jason went and you got Randall. Cobb instead of Cole Beasley.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Like, yo, listen, don't get me wrong. Cowboys are nice. We are going to the Super Bowl. Man, come on with that, bro. Come on with that, bro. It's happening this year, bro. Come on with that, bro. You go on to Super Bowl eventually.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I'm with Dak. It's happening this year, bro. Dak talk. It's happening this year. I'm telling you what's going down. Dallas Cowboys in the Super Bowl against the New England Patriots. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Guarantee. Is he going to beat up somebody by accident on purpose? I don't know why Antonio Brown would want to go to the Patriots. Those are going to be hard not to say crack in that locker room. Dude, we were talking about those in flavor. Like, he went from, like, a Cracker GM to the crackerist GM in organization.
Starting point is 00:36:49 It is the saltiest of crackers that he is now playing for it. So you can't really hate playing for a cracker. It's all fun in games until Donald Trump tweets how much he likes the Patriots. And you are the ball of black Twitter. Now what you're going to do, Antonio? You act like you all see that? Antonio Brown and Donald Trump go to the same hairstylistoles. for Antonio's mustache.
Starting point is 00:37:10 You know what? Antonio's mustache is the same color as Donald Trump. It is. That is a fact. It is. What else we got? Man, what else going on? I don't know why people are tripping off Kauai Linnett
Starting point is 00:37:21 because his sister killed somebody, allegedly, is being charged with murder. Yeah. I don't like that. I don't like when somebody in your family does anything. Same thing with Simone Biles. That shit got nothing to do with me. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:34 This shit's not even a story. It's only a story because they say, Why Leonard's sister. Yeah. Charged with X, Y, and Z. If that wasn't Kwilin's sister, it'd just be another woman in L.A. who killed somebody. Yeah. Yeah, they tend to do that.
Starting point is 00:37:48 They tend to, like, gravitate towards, you know, the thing people care about. Like, when anybody does anything in Florida, they're like, Florida, man. Well, Florida man is a celebrity. Think about that. We live in a celebrity-obsessed culture. Right. Florida man who doesn't really even exist is a celebrity. Because we expect
Starting point is 00:38:08 Because everybody can be a Florida man Craziness from Florida That's it Because if it was like Georgia man we might not watch If it was like New England man We might not watch Kentucky man trying to come up
Starting point is 00:38:16 Kentucky man might No no no no no no Google Kentucky crazy stories Kentucky man trying to come up They got a meth thing That was like the meth gators Or something shit like that And I think it's the fucking whiskey
Starting point is 00:38:26 Yeah yeah maybe The meth and the whiskey Is causing motherfuckers In Kentucky to wilder fuck out a little bit more They're trying to be on Florida's bumper Just a little bit That's a lot for your heart Meth and whiskey dude
Starting point is 00:38:35 I don't know But I just don't like when celebrity, when you attach celebrity to something, it just automatically becomes a story. Yeah. And that shit is whacked. It's the clickbait. What, you see some stuff?
Starting point is 00:38:46 Kentucky? Yeah, we're trying to shoot shit. Exactly. I'm telling you. You ain't paying attention to Kentucky, bro. Kentucky, Kentucky going to be the new Florida man in about a year. Really?
Starting point is 00:38:56 Yes, this time next summer? Huh. This time fucking next summer. So what happened? So she allegedly shoot somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she didn't shoot somebody. Oh, she didn't shoot someone.
Starting point is 00:39:06 They, her and a man allegedly robbed, I believe it was an elderly woman in the bathroom of a casino. Okay. And during the course of the robbery, I think the woman fell and... He hit her over the head. Oh, they hit her over the head? Yeah, yeah. So it was like a robbery inside a casino. And I think she has a history of it.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I think her, and I don't know if it was the exact same dude had done it before. Right. And why I don't fuck with her? Right. You don't. That's the problem with this whole family shit. Just because we share the same last name. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Doesn't mean that we're in cahoots together. I may not have spoken to you in years. But when you go and do some dirt, all of a sudden it's Coisle and the system. Why is that a story? Like, I just feel like media outlets got to do better and not making that a story. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:50 You know what I'm saying? That shit has nothing to do with Coislander. If I'm Kawhi, I'm actually upset about that. Even though it's the truth. Why is my name being used the motherfucker get you click? So what can we do about that? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Somebody's going to report that, though. I mean, if they... But why did I got to say Hawaii lineage sister? Because they want you to read the article. And that's whack. Because now all of a sudden people start... But that's the price of celebrity. I mean, that's the price of getting paid $100 million to play basketball.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Is it, though? Yeah, maybe. Pretty much. Is it? It might be. Do I got to deal with that fuck shit? Yeah. You might.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I don't like that shit either, yo. 50 Cent was on Breakfast Club and he said that. He said nobody has sympathy from winners. Yeah. And I understand what he's coming from. But not. Just because I'm rich, just because I got some celebrity. Don't mean I got to deal with the fuck shit just because.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Like, you're still human at the end of the day. I feel you. But what's it really worth to play basketball, right? What do you mean? What's it really worth? To play basketball, to play a game of basketball. Like, what's the actual value of that? What's the value of anything?
Starting point is 00:40:53 Nothing. Yeah, so the point is... Basketball is no more intrinsically valuable than, like, lifting boxes and putting them on... Right. So what I'm saying is the reason... You play basketball all the time. Have you ever got $2 million? I've never gotten to
Starting point is 00:41:05 No, no, no, no, meaning the act of it, right? It's all made up. Like, we just put the act, like, the fact that you get paid millions of dollars to do radio, right? It's like, that act is no different than picking up the boxes. It's just more people are interested in you talking than watching some guy put Home Depot boxes on forklift.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Oh, I see what you say. No, no, no, but what I'm saying is basketball, the salaries are at such an astronomical level now, partially because of a celebrity, partially because Kauai is so. well known partially because when he says what it do may be. That ain't true. Here's a thing. You have to filter this through the fact that Chris hates rich people.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Even though he is kind of rich. He is kind of rich, but he hates rich people. And he's got that communist DNA in him where he wants us all to be the same. That's not, what he said is not true. And I'm going to tell you why it's not true. Being on that basketball court, they're not giving you a $100 million contract because you're a fucking celebrity. No, you become
Starting point is 00:42:00 a celebrity because you're on a basketball court. Yeah, but they're paying you because of your talent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are very famous people that are not getting paid to play basketball. Stephen A. Smith said the realest shit, we had in my breast club. Stephen A. said he has a problem
Starting point is 00:42:12 with people becoming celebrities and getting all these endorsement deals just for being celebrity. He was like, what are you doing on the fucking field? He's talking about football players in particular. What are you doing on the field?
Starting point is 00:42:24 He was talking about Odell. He's like, what is Odell done? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He's like, if it wasn't for that catch against the cowboys and his hair, we may not be talking about Odell Beckham in that light.
Starting point is 00:42:34 So he's getting all these endorsement deals and stuff because he is a celebrity, but your celebrity should be based off your motherfucking skills on that football. Yeah, but he's also had, like, the most yards and the most, like, I think something like the most yards and touchdowns in the first three years of a career of any wide receiver or something like that. Like, he's clearly proving he's a lead through. He hasn't won nothing. He hasn't won shit. But then again, he's a wide receiver. They don't do anything.
Starting point is 00:42:55 None of them do. Well, he still get a ring. None of them will get rings because they want too much money. And by getting too much money, you won't be able to have the other pieces that your team actually. needs to get a ring. But it's a, look, dude, it's a tricky fucking thing, man. It's like, it's just like anything. Like we put this value, like, freedom, I was thinking, because I was in Russia last week, right? And like, I, it really put in perspective how much we, how much, how arrogant we are about this idea of freedom. Like, we've completely invented this idea
Starting point is 00:43:26 of freedom. Like, you deserve to be free, you believe it, you deserve to be free, you believe it. I deserve to be free. I believe that. We just invented freedom. That's an invented idea. Explain. Someone's just like, hey, once you're born, you deserve to be free to do whatever the fuck you want. And then other people are like, yeah, I think I do. I think of freedom. I don't think of that.
Starting point is 00:43:47 What do you think of? I think of being enslaved and you're free. I think of being in jail. Right. And now you're free. Right. Being free to do whatever you want to do, that's anybody can do that. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So there's historically, yeah, that's what Andrews saying. Historically, there isn't a precedent for that. I'm speaking of actual bondage. You're talking about slavery, right? But there's different levels to freedom. Like, for example, in certain countries, you're not free to be gay. Right? So that would be a limitation of freedom.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Yes. Right? And in certain places in America, you're not free to be black. Right? That'd be, now, you're free to walk around. You're not in bondage. But there are repercussions for sometimes being black in the wrong neighborhood, being black in the wrong situation, right?
Starting point is 00:44:28 So, like, there are effects on your freedom, right? Yeah, so when you say the freedom, that's the freedom that's the freedom that most people want. They don't want to be oppressed, marginalized systemically. Exactly. Because you can't really do anything about random acts of racism.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Of course not. Of course not. But you're talking about systemic acts. Yes. Right. But here's the crazy thing. We just invented this idea of freedom. You got to explain it.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I don't know how... It's a great idiot hot take, by the way. So it's like... I know where you're getting that. Well, explain. Well, explain. Somebody explain it. And help me explain it.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And the best version of America, when America's held up as this shining example, it's because we demanded freedom from Britain. Yeah. We demanded freedom to own property, to have guns, if you believe that's part of it, to self-determination. That's always been,
Starting point is 00:45:16 and that was the principle that the nation was founded of and it's separated from Britain for. And that's always, in theory, been our biggest accomplishment, because it's true. Throughout world history, people don't have freedom. Yeah. On all sorts of different levels,
Starting point is 00:45:30 whether it's straight up slavery to, freedom of ideas. Women not being able to drive in Saudi Arabia to you can't have Twitter and China. You can only use Chinese version of that. So there are all these different variations of it. Now the other side of the coin is
Starting point is 00:45:47 that's the principle of America was founded on. Are they living up to it? Maybe not. Of course. Do freedom work for Native Americans? No. Do freedom work for African Americans? No.
Starting point is 00:45:56 But the principle is unique. Again, again, I'm not trying to imply that we all have it. I'm just saying. And if you want to take it back a step further, they would say it's, it's based on democracy, which goes back to ancient Greece, but they had slaves of Greece. But isn't there little subcineraries of that even in America? Because say like you're in school, right?
Starting point is 00:46:12 And in school, they got rules, they have regulations. We've all left the classroom where the day was over and you're like, I'm free. You know what I'm saying? Because you know you're no longer under that rule. Right. So there's different levels of it, right? Like you're not free to say whatever you want in class in school, right? You can, but it's consequences.
Starting point is 00:46:26 But there's consequences, right? And so I'm in Russia. And I was doing this festival out there. And it was amazing experience. It was truly cool culture expansion. I'm talking to these two comics that were there to do this podcast. And they were talking about this idea of freedom that, like, is instilled in Americans. And they're like, here's the thing you got to understand.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Ever since you're a kid and like forever in your country, you fight for this value of freedom, which is you deserve to be free. Right. And not only do you deserve to be free. Right. Other countries deserve to be free. Sure. And if they're not free, you'll go out there.
Starting point is 00:47:03 and you'll free him. As long as there's something in it for us? And then he goes, of course, of course. But I'm just saying, like, in its best, looking at things in the best possible way, right? And he goes, we've never had this concept of freedom. I go, what do you mean? Because I thought freedom was ubiquitous, right?
Starting point is 00:47:17 I thought every human being believed in freedom. So the Russian is saying he's never had this concept. So he goes, so he goes, so they go, they go, for our whole lives, they've been telling us, believe in Russia. The state. Support Russia? Help Russia.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Mother Russia. We are the best. Russia is the best. and we will always protect Russia. It's never, in America, it's always freedom than America. Right. And anytime America infringes on your freedom, we start to protest. Colin Cabrick should be able to take a knee.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Why? Because he's free to take a knee. The Constitution says that, though. Yes, because the value of America is this freedom thing. The individual comes first. The individual comes first. It's not the state. It's not the state.
Starting point is 00:48:00 American is an expression of that freedom thing. And it totally puts it in perspective for me because I was like, holy shit, I thought this was just how every human believe that they should be able to live and then some places weren't able to live that way.
Starting point is 00:48:16 But there are people that grew up without even believing they deserve it. So you're in a country where they never had that though. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. So how, but how wild is that that, like, you and I, you grew up with this idea that you deserve freedom even though you were being restricted your freedom
Starting point is 00:48:31 in many different circumstances. sense is because of color your skin, but even inside you, you were like, but they're wrong for restricting me because I deserve this thing that realistically, we all made up. Yeah, I mean, listen, we, right? Isn't it not? I don't think we made it up. We didn't make it up. We didn't make it up. People wanted freedom. They just haven't had it. Right, right. But like, for everyone wants to be free instinctively. Right. But historically, it just hasn't happened. Well, you're a white male. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Christian, trans Asian. Right. So, speaking of which Hong Kong is an exact example of what you're talking about right there we go that's why they're going so fucking hard
Starting point is 00:49:07 because they got a taste of it yeah and they know it's about to go to freedom and now they see it's about to go away and you got 18 19 year old 20 year old kids who have grown up with iPhones and coach stores i mean they Hong Kong is in a international city yep it has everything that new york has and then some and China's about to shut it down why are you shutting it down uh because it's a threat it's a threat to what their freedom is a threat to the west Civilization is a threat to their way of life. Well, certainly democracy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:36 And I mean, I won't go too in the weeds. They remove all, like China's a way to control their population is to remove all other influences. Like, there's a reason they don't have religion out there. Right. And they've actually been like fucking like, and I don't know about exterminated, but like putting Muslims and camps and shit out there. And it's because they want the government to have the only influential factor in people's lives. And religion is such a potent idea and like powerful idea in their lives. it could create separation.
Starting point is 00:50:03 But part of the Caribbean are like that. Like when we used to... Dude, the whole world. When we used to first go to Anguilla, they didn't have fire come. All that shit was blocked. Yep. Did I ever tell you about the time
Starting point is 00:50:12 that we tried to watch Moonlight and Anguola? And you got to knock on the door? What's your doing? We tried to watch Moonlight and it was like, this program is restricted in this region, yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And I was like, hmm. And so it was me and my wife and it was van. And I'm like, what other gay movies do y'all know? Let's just, the only one I can think of was Brokeback Mountain. So I look at Brokeback Mountain. This movie is restricted.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yes. So then Netflix starts this, you know, recommending stuff. I mean, you go down to Netflix rabbit hole in gay movies. Jesus Christ, bottomless butthole, right? So it's like, it's all of these movies in this gay genre, every single one of them restricted. Every single one. So it's one of those things where like, were you surprised a little bit?
Starting point is 00:50:57 No. Interesting. No. It didn't come to your, it didn't make you go, oh shit. Like, we live in a place where you can watch any of these things. I've traveled enough. Okay, you had an expectation.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah, and read enough to know America got it good. Son, it's crazy. And don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it's perfect. And I know that there's tons of fucked up shit that's happening. But in terms of raw freedom, raw freedom, no place is close. How many times on this podcast? Close.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And I might even, like, update. Canada might be close. Dude, dude. Canada, you get arrested for a tweet. Canada, a comic was sued for $40,000 for a joke he made on stage. That's not freedom of speech. They don't even have freedom of speech in Canada. They have freedom of expression because speech can be hateful and speech can be violent or whatever these nonsense things are. And think about all the times we hear about, you know, and that's the other thing you heard for years.
Starting point is 00:51:48 These different artists go to these different countries and get arrested for something they did on stage. Yeah, Alex. NWA, you know, back in the day, what it was at? They was like in Sacramento somewhere. I thought when it was at, they got arrested because the police officer said, you can't come on this stage with this rhetoric. It's like, so it's like I always understood that concept. Right. My biggest thing when it comes to freedom, it's not even about the rules somebody may have for their establishment or even for their town or whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:16 My biggest problem has always been the rules that are systemic based on my skin color, based on somebody's sexuality, based on somebody's gender, because those are things we can't control. Right. I can go in somebody's establishment and not motherfuckering. fucking curse. Easy. You know what I'm saying? You can't not be black. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Yes. So that's a different type of freedom liberation that. 100%. That minorities are seeking. And you should seek it. But what I'm also saying is there are places in the world where like they don't even believe they can seek it. The idea isn't even there for them.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Like the idea. And to be honest, this is why in a lot of ways comedy is so potent and why it's, I think, taking over the world, that's my prediction. Stand up is because the joke offers this perfect little cloak, protective cloak for a real idea. Right? And if you're from a country that really, you know, censors what people can say, if you say something,
Starting point is 00:53:18 but there's a nice little joke around it. You're like, oh, that's not too serious. Can they take a joke in China? Can they take a joke in Hong Kong? You got to see how far you can go with it. You got to see how far you can go with it. Over there, let those little penis jokes fly over there if you want to. See what happened.
Starting point is 00:53:30 I mean, it would just be regular penis. You let them short jokes fly over there and see what the fuck happens. There is, it was just... Think about that. We have the freedom to make fun of other people from other countries in America. Think about this. You're not going over there with that shit. No.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Think about it. It was funny. When I was in Russia, I did a Putin joke. That was the first thing that I did. And I had a guy translating the joke. And I said, I just start the bit. I was like, Putin. And no, and I look at the translator.
Starting point is 00:53:54 And he looks at me. He's like, you want both of us to get involved in them? Like, you're not. I guess. Y'all really want this to go down? I'm not as I get it. But it was, there was a little bit of a little pushback. And I understand that.
Starting point is 00:54:07 But this is what fucking happens, man. And this is what true freedom is. True freedom, like, think about how free we are. You can call the president. What did Chrissy Tegan call him a pussy-ass bitch? No, now, listen, let's talk about that. Call him a pussy ass bitch, bitch-ass pussy. We don't know if that's going to fly.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Because we don't know how petty our president is. We don't know how petty his administration is. And just because they don't do something publicly and overtly don't mean that they won't do something. We don't know when Chrissy Tegan might get on the next plane and get held up at the motherfucking airport everywhere she go. We don't know. What is her background?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Ask Kathy Griffin. What is her background? What is Chrissy Tegan's background? She's Asian. Like what kind of Asian? Thai. I don't know. Not a chance in the world she goes to Thailand and talks about their emperor like that.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Not a fucking chance. And the emperor in Thailand guaranteed 10 times worse. You know why? The emperor will probably fucking cut her head off. or cut her hand off. In a fucking heartbeat. But by the way, that's what Trump wants. Trump wants to be an authoritarian figure in that way.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Yes. I don't get a fuck with nobody. Yeah, I mean the danger. I don't have, I didn't have a problem when people criticized Obama. I didn't agree with it. But like, it's important that you can criticize the president. That's what democracy is about. I think the danger isn't the Chrissy Teigen stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Like, if you want to look at what's happened recently. Yeah. The danger is when he does the storm pattern changes it, won't admit that he's wrong, and then instructs the weather. to lie on his behalf. That's the real thing. Yeah, but then it turns out that it was going towards... Fascism.
Starting point is 00:55:33 It was going towards Alabama. But he can't reach out to them and say, this is what you have to say. Right, but CNN came out and said it is going towards Alabama. But it was that sort of overrule. He was right. He went to Alabama, though. No, that's, see, I saw the CNN report where it was like, we believe it's going to cut across Florida hit whatever, Tallahassee, these types of things in Alabama.
Starting point is 00:55:52 That's it. But the point is, yes, exactly. And that would be fascism where you have that kind of influence over the well. the fucking weather jammed. That's the dangerous thing. He's doing that now, though. Dude, dude, there's no doubt. There's no doubt.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Trump told Fox, I don't fuck with y'all no more. Y'all better straighten the fuck up. He did. All right? What he's doing with the media, I think, outside of the environment is the most dangerous. Let's not make it a Trump thing. Let's not make this a Trump thing. Let's say what?
Starting point is 00:56:15 Nothing. I'll vote for him in 2024. No, but it ties into what you're saying. White things are going now. He'll still be the thing he posts on Instagram? What? He posted Trump 204. 24?
Starting point is 00:56:29 Bro, I've told you all this already. I told you all this already. I told you all this a million times. I got a little nervous at that one. Trump is going nowhere. But what Trump got to understand is America's, and this is the thing, and this is the thing that, and I don't want this to be about Trump
Starting point is 00:56:42 because then it just gets into an argument and let's talk about freedom. That's way more interesting. But the, but what Trump doesn't understand is how much America loves freedom and values freedom. And if you infringe upon that freedom, And part of infringement upon that freedom is the freedom to elect a new president every, at most eight years, no matter what. And if you, and granted, yes, FDR had three terms or whatever, sure.
Starting point is 00:57:10 But if you infringe upon that freedom, there are Americans that will be crazy enough to make sure that that's happening. That's what I want to ask you. They're not on the left. The motherfuckers that are crazy enough to do that or on the right. What was the guy that shot up that baseball game? What was he on? He's left. He was on the left.
Starting point is 00:57:27 One out of. We shot up all those senators. What was the guy who shot up the thing in Ohio? Listen, this is my question to you. Here's a scenario. Left got shooters, too. They're just wrists or we? I'm not talking about shooters.
Starting point is 00:57:36 There's a disputed election, right? Yeah. The next election, 2020. Yeah. Trump claims this. The other side claims that. Don't take my fucking talking points that I've been saying on this goddamn podcast and on Breakfast Club for months and nobody want to listen to me because I got a lift.
Starting point is 00:57:50 I've been saying to, listen. Listen. So here's this. Here's the scenario. Been saying this. All right. It's disputed. Trump's like, I'm not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I don't want to talk about Trump, guys. Let's just have fun. This is freedom. This is freedom. This is freedom of freedom. I'm not talking about shooting. I'm not talking about. Chris don't need to be free.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Listen, all right. Go on, gone, gone. By the way, yet another talking point I've said on this podcast. I think you Americans got a little too much freedom. But continue, Chris. So my question is, if that scenario plays out, will it be Hong Kong? Nah. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:58:20 People, I'm not talking about shooters. Hong Kong is adorable. Like, when I look at Hong Kong, they got their little masks on, they got their little laser pointers. It's a fun little laser tag. You're going to have a certain contingent of American that are going to protest this way. No, no, no, Hong Kong is adorable now. Let me finish.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Who's going to stop it out? China. Those kids are all getting killed. Like they storm an area 51 type killed? Like they know who's who.
Starting point is 00:58:45 This is the common. Oh yeah. Everybody's going down. What? They're all going down. What? China doesn't play this. It's not about China doesn't play this.
Starting point is 00:58:53 It's no other country plays this. We live in this. Weird fucking bubble. How many people China got? Two billion. You think that they can't lose a few hundred thousand? They lost a few hundred thousand throughout history. Every 50 to 100 years, they just run through a few hundred thousand just to let everybody know.
Starting point is 00:59:12 So let me ask you question. Why isn't America afraid of China then? When it comes to the tariffs and all that shit, like... We are. No, every time when I thought of people about, they're like China would never... Their survival is dependent on us. It's mutually a short destruction, right? They make shit, we buy shit, so everybody needs to be on the same place.
Starting point is 00:59:26 China historically is not great militarily. They tend to fall apart. But you don't think they would ever attack America? No. There's no point. The only way they attack America is... Financially. ...is if their survival is dependent on it.
Starting point is 00:59:38 That's when wars happen. Wars don't happen over ideas. They happen over survival. So when you say they're going to stop out to Japanese, what do you mean? Not Japanese. Hong Kong. Hong Kong. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:59:45 So Hong Kong is this little island off of China, and it had its own... It had its kind of like, own rights. I don't know how exactly we could relate it in America. It was a British colony, so it was... separate from mainland China in terms of policy. It was operating under British rules, which are very close to American rules, democracy, courts, freedom of press, what have you. It was the most westernized place in that part of the world for a long time. Now it's probably Singapore, but Hong Kong was super westernized, right? You don't think so? No freedom in Singapore,
Starting point is 01:00:13 man. No, no, meaning westernized in terms of culture. Like you walk around Singapore, you feel like you're in, you know, a westernian. It's like... Sure, but if you chew gum, they're going to cane you. So... I mean, that's exaggeration. Is that you're going to... No, you can. It's... Oh. But this is, it's a different thing. Hong Kong's the closest to a western city in Asia, let's say that, or had been. Boom, done. And China's like, now, now you're part of China and you're going to be part of, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:34 all of China. And now China's implementing this system where, like, they're ranking their citizens. So, like, based on loyalty to China so that, like, everybody gets a, a ranking. You can be a 10 out of 10 Chinese. The fuck is episode of Black Mirror? Son, yes. What the fuck. But this is what people don't realize.
Starting point is 01:00:52 This is the world. And when you talk about, like, like, us and America. America, we value life. Like, we're like, oh my God, you know, 10 people stub their toe in Florida. We need to fix this street immediately. In Russia, 25 million people died in World War II. Just put that in perspective. 25 million people died in World War II.
Starting point is 01:01:14 They don't care these places. People are people. It means nothing. Dude, they don't mean anything. I don't think we mean nothing here. I think we mean something to each other. I think to the American government, they don't give us. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:01:26 We believe we mean something. The government might be like, they don't really mean anything. But we believe. But when you go to these places, they're very aware. Yeah, I get it. They're very aware that...
Starting point is 01:01:38 They're just a number. The government thinks they're just a number. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's blatant. It's like, when we were in Russia, we went to the KGB building. You know the KGB? That like a secret service agency
Starting point is 01:01:48 that would fuck people up. And all that shit like that. So the KGB... That's... That's England. That's... Oh, no, yeah, yeah. But like, the KGB...
Starting point is 01:01:56 shit, they had this big, just tall building. And the top floor of the KGB shit, there's no windows. You don't notice it when you watch. But then you look at it and this guy pointed me out, he goes, you look at the top floor, he sees something weird about that? And he goes, no, no, what is it? And he goes, you see any windows? And I'm like, oh, that's kind of weird.
Starting point is 01:02:11 He goes, yeah, because that's not a floor. That's why they walk prisoners. Thousands of people have been murdered in that very building, and it's still operating to today. So when you talk about what we have here and what we're bitching about, about gender, neutral bathrooms, or if this fucking penguin is going to be, they have a new monopoly game where it's coming around where like, uh, women, when they pass go, they get $240 to make up for the wage gap.
Starting point is 01:02:36 This is a real thing. In London right now, you made that up. I swear to God in my life, CNN Polson. I swear to God in my life, CNN Polson. I swear to God in my life. Swear to God in my life. Women get 240 when they pass go. And I tweet, and listen, today, look at a monopoly, a new gender wage gap monopoly. And then the, in London, there's a, there's a gay penguin.
Starting point is 01:02:56 couple that adopted a little baby penguin and the baby penguin that they're raising, they're raising as gender neutral. They're not saying what gender the gay penguin? The gay penguin couple, there are two penguins that are raising a little penguin. In the fucking aquarium. Son, this is true. Look, this is what we care about in the West. This is what we're fighting for.
Starting point is 01:03:17 They're gay penguins. You know why? Yo, no, what you're saying is, yo, I'm gonna tell you. Those fuckers are getting marked out here because they just want some free speech and we're worried about gay penguins. Of course that gay, they locked up. That's the problem with America, man. What else you're going to?
Starting point is 01:03:36 One of the biggest problems of America and I think one of the reasons that we can't ever get to that true sense of freedom, that true sense of liberation that so many marginalized communities want is because we focus on the most trivial aspects of every single thing. Meaning like we focus on the trivial aspects of racism.
Starting point is 01:03:54 We focus on the, trivial aspects of sexism. We focus on the trivial aspects of somebody being so-called homophobic instead of the systemic aspects of these things. There's actually policies and legislations being put in place that we
Starting point is 01:04:09 could be motherfucking, you know, raising hell about, but we're not. You understand what I'm saying? Because you can't stop behavior. Okay? You'll focus on Trump saying, go back to where you came from. Instead of the law that sent a motherfuckers back to... I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:04:26 It's wild, bro. You know what it's like... This is a perfect example. It's like... It's like your girl being like, listen, I'm not sucking your dick. It's like her saying that thing, right? But if every once in a while she's sucking your dick,
Starting point is 01:04:40 who gives a fuck what she says? Do you know what I mean? Like, we're worried about... More worried about the said action than the actual action. You make me sick. We're sick. We still married?
Starting point is 01:04:52 We still married? You know what I'm saying? I can't stand you. Can't stand you. But are we still married? Yeah. That's all I'm trying to get over to words. These things are going to happen in your life.
Starting point is 01:05:03 You're going to have people be mean to you. Absolutely. Listen, everybody that's been cut off driving has thought something racist or sexist about the person that cut them off. Every single person in this room. Who gives a fuck? Exactly. Who gives a fuck?
Starting point is 01:05:14 As long as there's not a rule that says Asian and women can't drive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get to the rule. Now, if there was a rule, that's a good one. If it was a rule, if there's a rule, If there's a rule that says people can't drive, then you fight against that rule. What are you wasting your time for?
Starting point is 01:05:31 Absolutely. We focus too much on trivial shit and words as opposed to actual systemic things that are being implemented to fuck us over. So as long as we're focusing on the trivial bullshit, the systemic shit is just flying. That shit is just stacking up, stacking up, getting worse and getting worse and getting worse and getting worse.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Nothing changes. It's almost like a perfect distraction. Hey, I'll say some weird shit and then get this real law pass. It's a puppet thing. He's the magic or whatever. He's the master of that shit. What was that week when he was going at the squad?
Starting point is 01:06:00 He was appointing more federal judges. And nobody even noticed. Nobody even fucking noticed. You don't even know it. You know what I'm saying? Got 194 federal judges. You don't even know it? You know what I'm saying?
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Starting point is 01:07:22 sliders. One bite and you'll understand what the crave is all about. I don't play around. I love me my White Castle. I'm in there. It's the only place where you want burgers, right? It's the only place where you go in and order burgers. You're not getting a burger. You're earning burgers because you love them that much. From the castle or the grocery store, you can satisfy your crave anytime with the White Castle. Go to whitecastle.com slash idiots to get $1 off the purchase of any four or six-pack of White Castle sliders. Here's an interesting question. Yes, sir. As we wait for Charlotte to get back, and Chris, I wonder if you thought about this at all.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Do you think there's a guy who opens for me, does some work with us. Mark Gagnon always brings up this idea where he goes, how much longer do you think we'll be able to eat meat? I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I knew that you thought about this. So, Charlotte, the question is, how much longer do you think we'll be able to eat meat? My buddy, Mark, has a theory that they will make it eat. illegal to consume meat at some point once we have a reasonable replacement like that Beyond Burger type thing.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Because that whole freedom thing. Now you're getting it, right? They're not going to have a ban meat. But Chris has a feeling that it will just be more efficient. What is the idea? All right. So, you know, I wrote a book about veganism with Russell Simmons. I spent a lot of time studying it.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I don't believe the veganism is the ultimate answer. I don't believe that eating a lot of soy is necessarily that much processed soy specifically. It's not good either. If they say vegans that are to have a higher risk of strokes than meat. It's all a myth, this whole vegan thing. So I'm saying that just to preface what I'm about to say. But having done a ton of research, hours and hours of research, I do not think the amount of meat that humans consume is at all sustainable. We can't keep this up the way we're doing it.
Starting point is 01:09:18 If we can't keep doing it and we can't create a substitute. at what point if the substitute is more sustainable and equally as delicious and probably cheaper because listen to keep a cow alive
Starting point is 01:09:31 takes a lot of fucking water you gotta like have this pasture nice all this land to keep a fake patty alive is nothing so if it becomes cheaper just as good and they can get the
Starting point is 01:09:42 health components equal never happen you say it will never happen the health component will never happen because it's not natural bullshit yeah yeah it has to be natural That shit they got at KFC.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Think about how stupid this sounds. Plant-based chicken. Like, what's wrong with us as a people? Like, why did that make sense to anybody? Oh, plant-based chicken? How? Chickens are not made out of grass. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Like, so it's impossible. So that's some GMO bullshit. So either way it's GMO. Beyond burgers, Impossible burgers, it's all GMO bullshit. You know how much shit they got to put in there for that shit to taste like meat? You know how much shit they got to put in there
Starting point is 01:10:16 for that shit to taste like chicken? Yeah. So you better off just eating the regular shit? Right. But what if we get to a point where the population density is so much that we can't supply it with chicken and meat? And maybe chicken and meat and these types of things are reserved for like the super really, really rich. That's where it's headed. It is kind of where it's headed, right?
Starting point is 01:10:36 Meat should be extremely expensive. Right. And you should eat it on rare occasions. Cow should be extremely expensive. Not chickens because chickens ain't going nowhere. They're not going to fucking way. Literally. They can't fly.
Starting point is 01:10:47 They are built to be eaten. And really everybody should be eating more fish anyway. Your body has made a three-fourths of water and we know that the earth has made a three-fourths of water. But they're not very much fish in the sea and the factory farming fish. It's not true. Well, yeah, the Japanese are the worst. Maybe the Russians have been wildly depopulated of fish. And the factory farming, which is all these salmon in these facilities.
Starting point is 01:11:10 GMO. That stuff is not good for you either. Tilapia is not even a real fish. That broke my heart. That broke my heart. They charge like a real fish. That's not even a real fish. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 01:11:22 Rock is not a real vegetable. Can you break down the tilapia thing? What? Talapia is a, what they made tilapia. It's like a hybrid between. Yeah, I forgot. I actually. I wanted to have salmon and a white and it.
Starting point is 01:11:33 But does it swim? Yeah, it's a fish. Oh, God. It's a fish. But it's a hybrid. I mean, it's a fish. No, not an answer. I thought that they were just like making the patty and there was no head, no tail.
Starting point is 01:11:43 No, you're not going to go to the Caribbean and somebody pull a tilapia out the ocean. Yeah. They'll pull out some ma'i-mai. There's some grouper. They'll pull out some tuna, some grouper. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's a ma'am.
Starting point is 01:11:52 It's not a pure breed. It's not a pure breed. It's not a blue nose. By the way, this is why I love going to the islands. When you go to the islands, if they don't have it, they don't have it. They will tell you things aren't in season. Right. Season is the key.
Starting point is 01:12:04 We've got to start eating by seasons again. That's it. Yeah, but motherfuckers want avocados in December. You should be able to walk into a supermarket and just be like, I want strawberries. It's not strawberry season. How crazy is this? Like, what kind of world, like, how fucking fortunate are we that any time of year, if you want guacamole, you get guacamole. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Like, any time a year, you want lettuce, you get lettuce. This was seasonal for the vast majority of human existence. And it should go back to that. You didn't get blueberries until fucking October, buddy. If we do that, obesity rates will go down. Absolutely. America will start appreciating these things more. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:38 You know what I'm saying? These things will be luxuries. They'll be treats. Like, oh, strawberries and whatever time of year. I've been looking forward to getting mangoes in Taiwan all year. All year I've been looking forward when I went on my last trip. When I got there, it wasn't mango season. Oh, well.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Amen. Oh, well. I'll try to get next year. You better find you a Mexican on the street. Then it's not the same. You said, I don't think that the oceans, I mean, it's all the ocean, but when you go to those islands, they treat their oceans a little bit different. I don't see them running out of lobster, bro. I don't see them running out of crayfish because they eat them during season.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Like when I was in Turks and Kekos last weekend, it was lobster season. Everywhere you, I mean, you jump in a regular car. Hey, you know it's lobster season. Right. At the hotel, hey, it's lobster season. Everything had lobster stuff on the menu. Lopter rolls, lobster risotto, everything. Why?
Starting point is 01:13:25 Because it was in season. And it was like, get it why you can. It's in season. The biggest illusion when it comes to, you know, like luxury food is that lobster is expensive. The lobsters are cockroaches of the sea. They reproduce, we reproduce, like, crazy. They actually should have no real value. But since we look at them is really expensive.
Starting point is 01:13:43 they've been able to, like, maintain that shit. Because of Red Lobster, because growing up, at least for me, growing up in the country, red lobster was five-star dining. That was fine cuisine. You take a girl to Red Lobster, sawing and popping, yo. That's what drug dealers did.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Yeah. I'm pulling up the Red Lobster. I didn't know no better, you know what I'm saying? Cheddar cheese biscuits. Tottenham. Delicacy to me. You know what I'm saying? So Red Lobster just made it like some failure.
Starting point is 01:14:06 This shit fancy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Whatever lobster. You want that one. I thought that just brought him from the back. Oh, nah, they be in the tank. I mean, I've never eaten one out of the tank.
Starting point is 01:14:15 I always say it, but I don't know if they actually bring me the one out of the tank. Them shit just being in bondage. Them shit just be like... They too. It's S&M. Yeah, they just be tied up in the tank. I'm like, why do you have them tied up in the tank? We went to the Taipei fish market when we were over there.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Wild? Wild. On your recommendation to get sushi. Incredible or no? Incredible. But, you know, tanks bigger than this room filled with crabs. My daughter's a vegetarian now. She started crying in the middle of this place.
Starting point is 01:14:42 She couldn't handle it. It was insane. Don't take her to the zoo. Shit. But they're not eating the lie. The zoo is just, the zoo is worse. The zoo is sad, man. The zoo is sad.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Yeah. The zoo is depressing as fuck. The zoo is animal slavery. Yeah. If I gave a fuck, I'd be protesting that shit. The fish market is genocide. The fish market straight up genocide. It's slavery versus genocide.
Starting point is 01:15:06 I don't know, which is worse. Why? Because you're eating them? Because they, you pluck the crab right out of the tank and then you get the the sushi and it's fucking delicious. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Really?
Starting point is 01:15:15 Unable difference with a tuna or what? I stuck with, uh, I called somebody and they were like stick with the eel and the crab. That's, that's their thing? That's their thing. That's the absolute freshest out here. Unbelievable. The food couldn't have been that good if your daughter went vegan. She didn't even have it.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Wow. She was just too triggered by that. Yeah. She couldn't handle it. So how'd you eat? What'd you do? Rice. Rice and vegetables the rest of the trip.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Okay. That's one thing Asians do better than most people. Well, eat rice? Not give a fuck about animals. Yes. What do you mean? They cannot give a fuck about animals. Oh, you ain't ever been to the country, huh?
Starting point is 01:15:47 Let me tell you something. You end up in the South Carolina, Virginia, Alabama, Georgia. You all ain't eating jellyfish out there. Shit, because we're eating possums and raccoons. But that's easy. That's a tasty delicacy. That bad shoulder. That bare shoulder is nothing.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Jellyfish, lizard. There's nothing that Chinese people won't eat. Nothing. Nothing. That's why they'll beat us all. That's why they outlive us all. There's nothing they won't eat. What's the life expectancy of you?
Starting point is 01:16:12 Chinese person? Thousand, thousand years? Two thousand years. Shut the fuck. Son, there's nothing they won't eat. They will eat anything. You know how we have like picky eaters?
Starting point is 01:16:21 That doesn't exist in China. I had chickens feet on this last trip. Please, been doing that just a kid, man. Chicken feet? Yes! I'm from South Carolina. Chicken feet.
Starting point is 01:16:32 They're talking about meat eating chicken feet, man. But jellyfish, you're not eating. No, I never had no jellyfish. A lizard just spread like that, like on the cross. You never had that? They will eat that shit. Yeah, Gator might have been.
Starting point is 01:16:42 the closest thing I had to eat in the lizard. Dude, like a, uh, dude, just, just snake. Eat some snake. You know, dude, alligator crocodile? Oh, gator's great. That's like chicken, right? No, gaiters is good. No, it's really good.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Yes. Alligator's good. Apparently, they breed like crazy because they're lizards, like those crocodile farms or whatever like that, that's what we should be in. It's kind of rough with the gators, though, man. Why? Because they've been alive so long. So you just feel like a piece of shit eating, eating something that's been alive
Starting point is 01:17:10 that long, just because you're hungry? I don't at all. The motherfucker that lived, how many years? 600? I don't know. And you're going to just kill them. I don't feel bad at all. Animals, I don't have that thing with animals.
Starting point is 01:17:17 I don't have that connection. Maybe some dogs, they're kind of cute and that kind of stuff. No, dogs are fucked up. I remember the time I seen one of my homeboys shoot a dog in the head because they used to fight pit bulls. Oh, boy. And this pit bull was like all, you know, you couldn't win no more fights no more. Yeah. And so he just shot him in the head.
Starting point is 01:17:33 No, that's fucked up. I remember my homeboy saying, man, that boy, he's going to have hard luck shooting that dog in the head like that. And yeah. He did. I don't like that fighting them. I don't like fighting them. A pig is smarter than a dog though. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:45 You eat ribs every day. I don't eat pork. You don't eat pork. I don't. I eat pig. If you care about dogs, you can't really eat pig because a pig is definitely smarter or more emotional. Yeah, but a pig isn't as attractive.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Like a pig doesn't look cute. Nah, little baby pigs are really cute. By the way, I've never eaten dogs on purpose. That's what I'm saying. I need dog. If somebody gave it to you and you ate that shit, if somebody, if you ate that, That's like, that shit good as fuck. Dude, I've eaten horse.
Starting point is 01:18:12 I've had horse. I've had horse. Easily, yeah. I could eat any animal. I really could eat most animals as long as they were delicious. I'm just saying I don't have the same affinity for these fucking animals. I think it's a big crock of shit. We don't need all these animals.
Starting point is 01:18:24 I think that you have cows, chickens, pig, some fish. And I'm not smart enough to speak to this, but most of these animals serve a bigger purpose in this ecosystem other than us eating them. I don't believe it. No, that's the truth. I don't believe it. Because don't have cows fart. it closes the ozone layer. No, no, it opens it.
Starting point is 01:18:42 It's bad for the ozone layer. Kill all the cows. We don't want them doing that. Kill all the cows. Cow farts cause more erosion in the earth of the ozone layer than all the cars and shit combined. You know why y'all feel that way?
Starting point is 01:18:52 This is why y'all feel that way about cows now. Motherfuckers is turning vegan and because people are drinking almond milk so they know that cow milk is bad. So now y'all just like, fuck the cows. Bye. That is not right. We're out of here.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Give them to India. They love them. That's God. That's God today. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's going to get mighty fucking. hot when that ozone layer gone.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Talk to God about that. It happened to the hole in the ozone layer. The cows parted into it. But no, remember, they stopped talking about it. Chick-fil-A have been trying to save us. From the jump, they really might be onto it. Maybe Chick-fil-A really does have this close connection to God because they got us eating the
Starting point is 01:19:23 Popeye sandwich. They really got us in chicken. Burgers aren't slapping like they used to. Name of burger that's been popping. And you get some real beef? When you get some real meat, like out of the country somewhere, then burgers still be slapping. Yeah, but it's not a national craze like chicken is. is having a wave right now, bro.
Starting point is 01:19:40 You know what I realize about burgers and chicken and all that shit? I don't like the fixings, meaning like, I don't like sandwiches and shit. I don't like hamburger buns and all that. I want to get right to it. Like, I don't, I don't like sandwiches are on the way out. I don't like them shit. Oh, I don't eat bread. Yeah, see, everyone's going to be doing that.
Starting point is 01:19:54 They should. The bread is poison. I don't like the buns, none of that shit. You eat cardboard. I'm going to have a sandwich in 10 years. Don't eat the sandwich. Don't eat the fucking meat and have some veggies. That's it.
Starting point is 01:20:04 That's it. That's how human beings eat things. Now, what about when the bread is baked properly? It tastes good. That shit is good. But it's got to be a delicacy. Most things that taste good are horrible for you. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Most things that taste good are horrible for you. Name one thing that tastes good that's not bad for you. And fish, steak, chicken, homemade bread. You know what they got to put on the fish? You ever eat a fish with nothing on it? Yes. Actually, I did that in Japan. When you go to the Caribbean and they get that shit right out the ocean,
Starting point is 01:20:29 they'll be like, yo, the water got salt in it. Throw a little butter on it if you want. Some lemon juice. Then they fry that motherfucker up and then it's good, but they fry it. Nah, they boil it. And Anguilla, they just boil the lobster after you eat that shit. That shit is amazing. Nah, dude.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Lopsar by itself is regular, bro. That's rags, dude. Lopsar by itself? Nah. I need some butter on it. I just had it. I just had it. And the Caribbean, when that shit comes right out, when they take it right out that trap,
Starting point is 01:20:52 oh, shit, it's just seasoned so well by that water, man. The water is not seasoning anything, dude. Salt in it? No, dude, you don't want fucking lobster a taste like the ocean? Yes. When was the last time you took a bite of ocean and enjoyed it? That's the best. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 01:21:06 you ever drink salt water by the glass? Yes. That's called drowning. Right. You know what tricking me out when I was in the trailer cake goes? I didn't know you could open your eyes under water. I had no idea.
Starting point is 01:21:20 I'm talking about without goggles. Wow, dude. I did not know I could do that. What you thought would happen? Because it's just like... What did you really think it's going to happen? When we talk about freedom, right? And we talk about like just rules
Starting point is 01:21:31 and being taught certain things. Yeah. You just do that when you're in the water. If you don't got goggles on, you're just like this. Not me. Listen, I don't know what. made me do that shit. And I was just like,
Starting point is 01:21:40 if this water is soaked, I'm just going to open my eyes. And I was like, I jumped back out and I was like, I can see you under this shit. I'm like, I can see under the fucking water. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:21:55 this is years and years of being in these oceans and not knowing I can open my fucking eyes. I've never opened my eyes under water. That's what I'm saying. You've never opened up in the water. No way. All jokes aside, Dway,
Starting point is 01:22:07 all jokes aside, Dway, When you jump in the water, do you open your eyes? All the time. Without goggles. The ocean. He's Jamaican, bro. He's different. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:15 He's a water black. He's a land black. Taylor, you open your eyes on the water? Depends where I'm right. If you're in Philly, you're like, nah, fuck that shit. But if you're in the ocean, ocean, you'll open them up. I just started doing that, actually. I was scared too.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I didn't know you could. I never thought about it. And then my wife was like, it's not like it's chlorine in the water. that's going to burn your fucking... But I thought the salt water would, too. Salt gets you a little bit. Not at all. Not at all.
Starting point is 01:22:43 But you have to understand. Like, you guys have a little paranoia. You still wash your chicken. You know? You still wash your chicken. You're a little bit paranoid about things so you don't need to be paranoid about. Why?
Starting point is 01:22:54 You're not talking about not eating chicken. So clearly, clearly if something's wrong with it that we should need it, you might need to wash this motherfucker. All right? That's probably why y'all not eating that shit no more. We're eating it.
Starting point is 01:23:06 What do you think you wash it with? What's that? What do you think we wash it with? It doesn't matter. It's a waste of time. It's not only a waste of time. It spreads salmonella. Knock it off.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Samanella ain't ever killed nobody. You got SARS. How did you get SARS? Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Like, what's the salmon L ain't ever hurt nobody? All this shit we'd be running from don't hurt you? Salmonella.
Starting point is 01:23:28 What's the shit that spread of, uh, coli? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Please. Yeah, get over it. You need a little bit of that to live. Yo, I'm 100% with you. I think we exaggerate all this shit. Like, just get over it.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Just get over it. It's not a big deal. Like, stop caring about so many things. The environment, you don't need to care about that. I don't know about that one. It's time. Get over it. It's good.
Starting point is 01:23:52 We're going to be good. You really care about the environment? Yo, you know what's so crazy? Let's pay some business. Let's talk about that. I want to talk about that for a second. Other than your absolute best friends, who could you ask to bring you red wine at 4 p.m.,
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Starting point is 01:25:06 download Postmates and save it the code idiots and we back. Now, I want to talk about that for a second. I think that, I think if the Earth rebels against us, there's nothing we can do about it. So if the Earth is changing, I think that when you talk about, we worry about things that we shouldn't worry about, I think we might be giving ourselves too much credit for what the Earth may naturally be doing. That's literally what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:25:29 Everybody is saying that when they say global warming is bullshit, the Earth has been warm before and cold before, way before we had straws, way before we had airplanes, way before we had hummers. It is this human arrogance that we think we can truly affect and change the entire existence of the world. What caused the last ice age?
Starting point is 01:25:49 I have no idea. Using plastic bottles? Wasn't no recycling. Dinosaurs weren't recycling. That's what caused it. It's like, I'm not saying that we can't affect it a little bit, maybe we are affecting a little bit, but you want to just, I can't drink out of a fucking plastic straw. You really think you're a plastic fucking straw is going to save the ice caps?
Starting point is 01:26:07 You are out of your gas. And by the way, a symbolic step. It's making people aware. It's getting people conditioned to start thinking about this thing. I went to the whole food the other day. I got an iced coffee. I went to get a straw. There was no fucking straw. I was pissed off. I'm pissed. And then I was like, you know what? Fuck it. I can live without the straw
Starting point is 01:26:23 because of conditioning people to think that way. Those paper straws are so trash. Because as soon as you take a couple of tips out of that shit, that shit just crumbles. Doesn't make it through a whole ice coffee. But my thing is simply this, man. We don't need a straw. We don't. We don't know what the earth is doing and that shit may have nothing to do with us. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Or it might. I don't think, I don't think we're scrapping to Earth. You don't say 300 years of industrialization has had an impact on the environment. I'm totally honest with you. I think that human beings are such a small part of what make this earth take. Like, where the problem? I believe that. We are so, yo, we're so insignificant.
Starting point is 01:27:02 We're so insignificant. But it's hard for us to assume we're insignificant. significant. So the people that really think we're affecting the whole world, they have this human arrogance. They're the most arrogant people. They're like every time you smoke a cigarette, a giant hole opens up in the ozone layer and we're all getting cancer. Really, dog, for one cigarette? Because I don't think people think about the scale of human consumption. I don't think people think about the scale. It's the AC is in in this room right now. The AC is on in every room in this fucking country and in China and in India. Yeah, when you take all that stuff together, all these people running AC, all these people
Starting point is 01:27:32 having exhaust coming out of their cars. All these people, you can't go anywhere in the world and not order a stake now. They got, you know, like, it's the scale that we're doing all this stuff at. God, but we're going to pay your price for that. I'm not going to ever be ignorant and say that, you know, human beings may not be the cause for some of this shit.
Starting point is 01:27:49 But I do think that the Earth is just rebelling and there's nothing we can do about it. Earth is going through change. It's not rebelling, or this is the natural life cycle of the Earth and it refreshes itself every couple billion years. Maybe it's time to get rid of the fucking parasites, Which is us. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:28:04 Some new parasites will come about and they'll fuck up some shit and then it'll get rid of them. But this has been here a lot longer than us and we'll be here a lot longer after us. So why don't we enjoy it while we got it? We can enjoy it. We can enjoy it. Eat some steak. Use your hair conditioning. Use a plastic straw.
Starting point is 01:28:20 I'll tell you one sacrifice I'll make. What is that? I'm all right with electric cars if I can only go 25 miles an hour. I'm okay taking four hours from me to get to Philadelphia. I'm not. You can't live with that? No. Chris, shut up.
Starting point is 01:28:31 You guys can't do that? Dude, that's not what technology is about. Why would I go backwards? Like, they created certain things for us to get places faster. You think that oil and gas is the only way that a car could run. You don't think there's any other way to use other technology. No, it's just the most efficient. This is what people don't realize about oil, right?
Starting point is 01:28:48 Is that, like, this much oil right here, you take that much oil right here. I'm holding up one liter bottle of water. That much oil right here can power a 2,000-pound vehicle for 20 miles, 25 miles. Like that is an alien-like substance. By the way, I doubt we... You just can't match that power with anything else, and that's why we haven't replaced it. And the second we can match that power with solar or lunar...
Starting point is 01:29:11 Recyclastic. Whatever we get... We'll just use that thing. But until we can match the power, we're not going to do it. These oil companies are in the business of profit. If they could profit off of sun energy, they would. They just can't yet. Simple as that.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Like, the whole Elon must electric carship... They have no reason to. That's the thing. The gas and oil business is booming. Yeah, because nothing else is as efficient. And once it became as efficient, they'll jump into it. Like the Elon Musk shit takes just as much oil. Like the electric cars we use now require just as much oil to power the car.
Starting point is 01:29:42 It's the same amount of oil because you plug your car into an electric outlet. Where does that electric outlet get its energy from? It gets it from oil. That's how the fuck you create electricity right now. Now, the preparation for the Elon Musk shit for the Tesla's is eventually maybe we could have solar panels that could power the car. Or turbines. Or turbines or whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:30:02 So it's basically setting us up for when we do have an oil replacement, which is great. It's a more expensive version of getting rid of the straw. You're conditioning people, you're getting people to think. But that's the least we can do.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Sure. But you need to make the car dope for me to jump on board. The only reason people get a Tesla is so you could drive itself, they don't get a Tesla because they save in the environment. Yeah, salute to Tesla
Starting point is 01:30:22 for that nice publicity stunt they did this week. They had the young man looking like he was asleep at the wheel and that Tesla was just driving him, save that shit, come on man. Dude, I want the one where he's whacking off on the wheel. Alex, of course you think it's real. What?
Starting point is 01:30:35 None of this shit is, I guess she was a publicity stunt for fucking Tesla, bro. What are you talking about? The guy that was driving the car, but he was sleep. He's like... It's like... And somebody recorded him. Think about it, Alex. Just all of us...
Starting point is 01:30:47 I mean, I know we live in an era of cameras. Yeah, yeah. But just, you just randomly caught that guy? Oh, no, no. He's saying that, yeah, he might have been asleep, or he might not have been asleep, but it's specifically used by Tesla. I think Tesla might be... and set it up.
Starting point is 01:31:00 I got a friend that I know got a Tesla that drives drunk. Because he don't got to drive. He gets pissed drunk and then he gets in his Tesla and the Tesla drive that shit home. And it's like, ooh. We have a friend named Little Duvall who smokes weed and lets the Tesla drive all day long, all through Atlanta. But he would smoke weed and just drive a regular car. But no, but he does that on purpose. I've seen Duval take his hat, pull it over his head and just smoke and just be like this why the car is driving.
Starting point is 01:31:27 By the way, those are great commercials for Tesla. I started that shit and I was like, why the fuck? I don't know how a Tesla? And if you drive Uber right now, be ready. I can drive the work in the morning? You don't got to drive for a car. I can sleep. I get that guy with sleep.
Starting point is 01:31:38 Dude, roadhead and a Tesla? Light word. I don't know what that is. Black men don't cheap. I'm married man. Your wife can do it. I mean, I had roadhead in so long. Roadhead.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Yo, so that was the next thing I was thinking. What? It's like roadkill. No, I know what it is. For your libido. It's reminiscent of the good old day. So that was the other thing I was thinking, right? So, like, you know how everybody's like China's going to take over, right?
Starting point is 01:32:05 There was a time where, like, Europe, there was a time where... China is taking over. China's going to take. There was time where, like, the Middle East was in charge. And then there was a time where, you know, Europe was in charge. And now there's a time where America's in charge. And maybe China's time is next, right? China's time is now.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Sure. China's buying up all Africa, damn near. Sure. China's buying up the Caribbean. Like, people, you know, you all got to go outside the world if he was going on, man. Sure. I'm wondering if, like, this is a natural progression of, like, a huge, humanity, right?
Starting point is 01:32:30 Where it's like, when it's your time to be in charge, you grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind your ass off. Like, when Europe was in charge, they were working their fucking ass off. They were colonizing the whole world. They were all about that money. How can we make more money? How can we grind? Kind of like what America is doing right now, right?
Starting point is 01:32:45 It's like, how can we make more money? How can we grind? And then Europe went through this phase where it seems like right now where they've kind of fallen into socialism where they're like, you know what? We grind it so hard and we forgot how important in life was. And we forgot how important enjoying things. family is. And like, I think what often happens when you get wealthy and maybe you could speak to this is like, and I've seen the transition even with you. Like, you've made a lot of money. You've gotten a lot of success. And then instead of turning into like some like monster that's like flaunting that, you kind of like turned into yourself. You've, you've invested in your mental health. You've invested in your family. You like, and I think this is what happens culturally to societies too. Is like you reach this plateau and then you go, oh shit, I was working all this hard. And I was,
Starting point is 01:33:29 forgetting the most important thing, which is family and friends. Yeah, I think money. Enjoying life. Yeah, that's why I really take the opinions of, the opinions of people who have money. When they start to do certain things that they don't have to do, I take it more serious. You know what I'm saying? Because money rewards you, money rewards you the luxury of being able to take care of those type of things. Like whether it's your mental health, whether it's your physical health, whether it's other people.
Starting point is 01:33:56 You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you want to empower, empower. empower people around you. You know what I'm saying? You just like, you know, you start getting in the philanthropy more just because that is... You find out what life is about. You have the luxury to do that.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Yeah, you realize, like, how much can you fucking have? But that's why we look at billionaires, like they're out of their fucking minds. Not saying that... Right. And by the way, not saying they shouldn't have that because they earned it. They earned it. But Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:34:19 You missed out on life. You missed out on the most important thing of life. Or you might be. Maybe you're doing well. Maybe. But maybe you miss out of most important. He might tell us about fucking rocket shiphead. And you'd be like, holy shit.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Fuck roadhead. Fuck roadhead. You used to see her head bounce when she's on a ship. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, so maybe the way I'm thinking about this is like, may, and you've noticed the idea of socialism bubbling up in America, right? Bernie comes out, obviously the squad and all these people who are really embracing this idea of socialism.
Starting point is 01:34:49 And maybe that's the natural trajectory. Like maybe that's where we're supposed to go. Maybe America's reaching this point where we had all this point. prosperity and we worked our fucking asses off. Americans work really fucking hard. And maybe we're going through this phase where we're like, oh shit, is it worth it? The only way America ever have real socialism
Starting point is 01:35:08 is if, you know, when we talk about freedoms, you know, being prohibited and then people can't, don't have the freedom to take advantage with this capitalist society the way they used to. Right. Other than that, this shit will always be a capitalist society. Why? Because the motherfucking goddamn sell t-shirts. Because the motherfucker can sell
Starting point is 01:35:24 eggs, like whatever. I'm not talking about, like, get rid of capitalism. I think it's always there and I think it's the driving force, right? But like, what I'm saying is maybe there, maybe when a society ages to a certain point, they go through a transition, right? And then they start realizing, oh, shit, maybe we got to take care of each other a little bit more. Oh, shit, maybe the right thing to do is make sure we're not there. No, maybe we won't get there. Maybe we will. But I'm not, what I'm saying is I'm, I wouldn't be shocked if that's why these, you know, these social and things are bubbling up. And that's
Starting point is 01:35:53 why socialism exists in Europe. And, and maybe it's our time. Maybe it's our time to. I embrace it. But I'm going to tell you that shit not going to change until people in positions of power adopt that mentality. As long as you got these capitalists that are in these positions of power that give a fuck about money, that's what America's going to give a fuck about. Or until we overthrow them. Because I think that's what often happens.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Bro, we pussy. That shit ain't happening. Why don't you talk like that? Here's the thing. The reason it hasn't happened is because the billionaire class has been very good with giving poor people just enough. Right? I think the billionaire class basically goes, okay, we need to give them just enough so they don't revolt. We can't give them too much because we want.
Starting point is 01:36:28 want to stay rich. Well, motherfuckers is really poor out here, bro. Son, they're not poor enough to revolt, and they get poor enough to revolt. You know why? You know why? Because they're poor, but you can still feel rich. Exactly. There's still enough things here to make you feel.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Exactly. So what I'm saying is once they can't feel anything, once they don't have the phone or once they don't have the thing that makes them still feel rich, then the revolt happens. And the billionaires manage that. They basically go, okay, guys, we got their foot on their neck a little bit too much. We came up good, but right now, motherfuckers are dying out there. They're getting pissed off, and they're really talking to socialism shit. Inject some money into these motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:37:05 But this is what happened 100 years ago. I mean, you talk about socialism is bubbling now. Socialism's most popular period in America was 100 years ago. And what happened 100 years ago? They had to do antitrust. They broke it up. But you had bombings. No, no.
Starting point is 01:37:18 But what I'm saying is it's a reflection of the time, right? It was there's these crazy companies that were completely monopolistic. Sure. Vanderbilt, Hurst, all those guys. Rockefeller, all these motherfuckers. And they were spreading the wealth gaps so much that the poor were so poor that they were like, yo, we're not doing this no more. You can keep us poor, but you're not going to keep us dead. Right.
Starting point is 01:37:38 So, and I think that's what we're approaching right now. And if the billionaires don't come in and cough up some of that bread, it's going to be taken to matter what. But the difference is the thing that really drove it a hundred years ago were the unions, right? Like, if you go back and look at it, the unions were literally had guns and were fighting pitch battles against, the company's the picketons. And you're not going to take away my freedom, bro. The unions are done now. The unions are done. So what's going to be the organizations that are going to harness this?
Starting point is 01:38:05 Because right now it's just a lot of different people feeling a certain way. I think both y'all are right. But I think that the difference between America. I think we're saying the same thing in a way. Yeah, you're saying the same thing. Between America and a lot of other places, America has a system for the poor. Meaning like, even if you're poor, you can still get something to eat. It might be the worst shit.
Starting point is 01:38:26 But you can still get something to eat. You can still have a place to stay. It might be a shitty-ass place, but there's still something there. It's a different type of poor. It's a different type of poor. It's not like rock bottom. If homeless people in America are not revolting, who is? Yo.
Starting point is 01:38:41 If homeless people in America aren't revolting, who is? Akash said this to me. He's like, listen, I've, in my own life, I've had money in terms of his family. His family's had money and his family has been dirt poor, right? In debt, zero. And we went to India. I'll never call myself poor. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:58 There's a different level of poor. You would kill for a spot in a housing project. Absolutely. You'd fucking get in a second. Absolutely. So that's what I mean when I say America has a system in place for its poor. Yo, but and to be honest, like you were saying right there, those unions, they harassed bombs, they had guns, they were ready to go. Right.
Starting point is 01:39:19 And that's why these motherfuckers want to get on some level, I think, that's why these motherfuckers want to get rid of our guns. They shroud it in a, we got to keep the kids safe, we got to do this. All these billionaires are the same people. They don't even have a political ideology. They just, I disagree with that. That's fair. That's fair. But let me just get the point out. I think Buffett does. All these motherfuckers, they got the same shit, right? They just want control. And if they're like, let's get these guns out of here, they know it's easier to implement whatever policy they want when they don't have to deal with you revolting. Like, if you really want to put your foot on someone's neck, it's easy to do when they don't got a gun. But if I got a gun, let me tell you where
Starting point is 01:39:55 your foot is not going to go. You know what America respects. Money and violence. Click, click. That's it. And those two things go hand in hand. You're not going to find money without violence. You're not going to find violence without money.
Starting point is 01:40:07 That's it. You want to make a real change? That's what it's going to be, baby. And you can do it without guns. Name one time of history. There wasn't a bad stabbing the day in America. Hong Kong. But look at what's happening in Hong Kong.
Starting point is 01:40:19 That's all being done without guns. What are they doing? But they're not doing nothing. They're about to get bodied, bro. I seen them swag. They're about to get a body. I've seen them swag. I seen a massive swag surfing happening.
Starting point is 01:40:31 I said. That's what I saw. Yeah, multiple people stabbed at a business in Tallahassee, Florida. Six people would take it to a hospital in Tallahassee. Because he's doing on a massive stabbing spree today like he's in London. It happened at Dyke Industries. Yep. If the school shooting situation doesn't change stuff in this country.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Nothing will. We've seen, Chris, Andrew, we've seen the worst of the worst. Like we've seen 9-11 We've seen these massive school shootings Like we've seen the worst Of the worst Bro, America ain't changing You know what's going to change America?
Starting point is 01:41:07 What's that? God Yeah Mother Nature When one of these motherfucking Category 5 Touched down somewhere And stay for, you know
Starting point is 01:41:15 Two days And really fuck some shit up Massive earthquake in L.A. That's the other thing people ain't talking about Everybody looking at the hurricane See how strong they are Wait until the next massive hurricane earthquake happens in L.A. And breaks California apart from motherfucking the United States.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Like, we got some real shit that's about to happen in America in the next couple of years. You can say Trump is the first stunt because a lot of people have felt their foot was on their neck. And Trump was like, yo, they got their foot on your neck. I could get their foot off your neck. And then all these people are like, all right, we'll vote for you. But those might be the people who end up revoting because Trump didn't keep the promises. That's a revolt class. That's a revolt class.
Starting point is 01:41:52 And they could absolutely revolt against Trump. But as long as he keeps feeding him, they'll keep him at bay. But that class right there needs to be served. And once they feel, oh, shit, the Republicans didn't serve me. Oh, shit. The Democrats didn't serve me. Wait a minute. None of y'all are doing anything for me?
Starting point is 01:42:08 By the way. Oh, no. Click, click. By the way, that's another example of fascism. Act like you give a fuck about the poor and disenfranchised. Act like you give a fuck about the law. That's an example of government. There's every government does that.
Starting point is 01:42:17 But no, really fascists. But they do that. But then they really catered to the rich motherfuckers. Of course. Yes. All these motherfuckers are playing this game, right? That's the thing. Like, Trump just realized who he needed to appeal to.
Starting point is 01:42:27 You know what I mean? It's like Democrats right now. All of a sudden, every Democrat cares about reparations. Where was that smoke two years ago? Three years ago. Four years ago. Messaged to all white liberals. Y'all better start giving a fuck about white liberals again.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Because you see what happened in North Carolina. What happened? What happened? They lost the, what was that? Special election? Yeah, it was for the house seat? Yeah, something like that? Republicans won that.
Starting point is 01:42:49 And, like, North Carolina was like, what, 80% white? if I'm not mistaken. Because all y'all talking about is reparations. You better give a fuck about white liberals again. Fake Karen, by the way, fake Karen. This is the most hilarious thing. Do you believe in reparations? They're not talking about it as much no more.
Starting point is 01:43:03 They go like this. They go, we believe in a conversation about reparations. No, in a conversation to learn about it. If that ain't the most, what is a condescending bullshit. Yeah, I mean, that's what HR 40 is, the study of reparations. We would like to study reparations to see. What do you need to do? study.
Starting point is 01:43:22 I felt that way. Did black people get fucked over? Y'all need a research committee about that? The research is actually not the fact that black people have been fucked over. How much have they been fucked over and what exactly would that number look like? Which could take motherfucking year. It's all BS at the end of the day.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Son, it is lip service to manipulate motherfuckers. But the reason I do like the reparations conversation is because it has to start with acknowledgement. and it has to start with accountability. Like, we're talking about energy and we're talking about the things that are going on in the earth and the earth rebelling.
Starting point is 01:43:57 Like, it starts with that. Like, you have to hold yourself accountable. You have to acknowledge what's going on and try to make amends for it. That's all we can do, even when it comes to, like, global warming and all that shit. We know we're fucking the earth over.
Starting point is 01:44:08 So we got to acknowledge it. We got to hold ourselves accountable and try to make amends for it in some way, shape, of form. You want to really fuck over the rich? This is how you fuck over the rich. Don't allow them to keep their money in their,
Starting point is 01:44:23 don't allow them to keep their money in their investments without paying tax on it. And don't allow them to take loans against their stocks and investments that are not taxed as well. Because that's how they keep their money. They essentially keep all their money like Warren Buffett doesn't pay anything. He keeps all his money in Berkshire Hathaway. He pays himself a dollar a year. This sweet little goody two-shoes guys, whatever his name is, Buffett keeps all his money in Berkshire Hathaway. When he needs some money, takes a loan against that.
Starting point is 01:44:53 You pay taxes on loans? No, you don't. So he doesn't have to pay any fucking taxes this guy. I'm always talking about that because I do want to empower people. I do want to help people. That's the level playing field. Let them play ball like us. But listen, those guys, I mean, they hustle, bro.
Starting point is 01:45:08 They earned every motherfucking penny they got. Nobody's taking away your money. What we're doing is making you operate on the same level as everyone else. Right? It's if I have to pay taxes on the money I make, and I make good money, if I have to pay taxes on that money. You definitely have to pay taxes. No, I agree with that.
Starting point is 01:45:23 But they've created a separate economy. Billionaires have created a separate economy where they do not have to pay taxes. Yeah. Because they don't technically make money. They keep all their money in their stocks and investments, and you don't have to pay money on them. I don't mind the investments thing if it's stuff like the opportunities on legislation and they're investing back into community. That's different. That's charity.
Starting point is 01:45:44 I'm talking about like... If they're doing that, I'm not mad at it. It depends what the investment is. If you got all your money in Apple stock, right? Yeah, yeah. You got all your money in Apple stock, right? And it's making money every single year. But you're not paying any taxes on that because, oh, I don't own that or I don't have that.
Starting point is 01:45:57 What if I buy five, what if I got Apple stock and I buy five million iPhones a year for people and give them out? Give them food. That's charity. Not iPhones. They don't want no fucking food. What makes you think niggas want to eat? This is the apple. Remember when motherfucking Adam and the guy told Adam and he don't touch the Apple?
Starting point is 01:46:17 This is the new Apple. Do you realize this? We can write a whole new script about how this. This is the new apple. That's funny. And when the world is done, like I'm talking about when God pressure washes every fucking body, right? And there's nothing left. And then it's just two humans who got to repopulate the earth.
Starting point is 01:46:32 And God puts this phone up on a tree. And God says, don't touch. Don't look at your mention. Don't touch that fucking phone. All right? That phone is the devil. Don't touch that phone. Let's see if she can resist that shit when that shit starts buzzing.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Let's see. Let's see. Because you know it's going to be a woman. And she's going to go for it. Champagne Poppy looked in my story. Champagne Poppy is not going to be dead. All right. Champagne Poppy is not going to be here no more.
Starting point is 01:47:00 By the way, that's going to happen, people. You have to realize that. You're going to die one day. But eventually, this shit is getting wiped to fuck out. Yeah. It's only a matter of time. I don't know when. I don't know where.
Starting point is 01:47:13 It's only a matter of time. It's the natural course of life, period. So. So deal with it. We have no choice. We're doing with it right now. Joy at volunteer, man. I think we're in the beginning stage of Armageddon.
Starting point is 01:47:25 I'm dead serious. And I do think Trump is the catalyst. What is Armageddon? The pressure wash. What does that mean? Just the beginning of the end. I really do feel that way. I feel like it's going to start with government.
Starting point is 01:47:38 I don't think America, I think eventually America is going to be toppled as the world's greatest nation. But just because you're toppled doesn't mean shit can't be good. Like, it's really good in Europe. America's not going for that. Now, you think we're egotistical? Yeah. You think these fucking motherfuckers that really run this shit
Starting point is 01:47:55 are going to want to not be number one? Right. Never happening. They'll never bow down to China. We owe China trillions of dollars and act like we the boss. Yeah. Fuck that. It's never happening.
Starting point is 01:48:12 But we are the boss. Because if I owe you, if I owe you trillions of dollars, right, Charlie, man? But I got a gun and you. don't, then I don't know you anything. They got guns, though. But they don't got a missile that can reach us. China? Yeah. They don't, Chris? I don't believe that shit.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Bro, they make these. And they don't have any. If I'm China, I put all the bombs in these motherfuckers and ship them over. Oh, iPhone 11. We got something for them. Caboom. Caboom. Everywhere. As soon as you log on Instagram, there's a massive explosion. You'd be like, what the fuck is going on in America?
Starting point is 01:48:48 Yeah, yeah. There's these explosions happening everywhere. Yeah, yeah. It's all type of ways they can fuck us over. That's true. They're just screwed up, like, strategically. Like, we have army bases around the world, right? If we need to get a pop and we can get a pop and they don't have that.
Starting point is 01:48:59 They're trying to get that, right? They're trying to have influence in these different regions. And every time they try to bust in, we start a fucking coup and we don't let it happen. I mean, that's what Venezuela is, right? Why would we start to your ass clothing line? What are you talking about? Sometimes you, I make money. Sometimes you have to make money.
Starting point is 01:49:16 Why are they starting a coup? How did we do that? Yeah, for all you guys are confused right now, T.I had a clothing line. If you got to explain it, it wasn't funny. I just, you know, keep moving. That's the story of my life.
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Starting point is 01:50:34 Visit BoostMobile.com or your nearest retailer for details. I do want to keep screaming that I am not looking forward to the 2020 election. and the reason I'm not looking forward to the 2020 election because I just feel like Democrats are being such pussies and such cowards because they're not addressing the elephant in the room, which is our democracy is compromised. And it's like when you talk to people, like I was having a conversation with Mayor Pete when he was on Breakfast Club,
Starting point is 01:50:59 and Mayor Pete said the same thing that Stacey Abrams said, even though Stacey Abrams has an initiative called Fair Fight 2020 where she's trying to raise awareness, but Mayor Pete said the reason Democrats don't want to, you know, talk about the Russian interference, they don't want to talk about voter suppression, the reason they don't want to talk about Mitch McConnell Black in the election Security Bill is because they don't want to discourage people from voting in 2020.
Starting point is 01:51:21 So you would rather lie to the American people and tell them that it's all good when it's not, when that is what's really going to discourage them. What's really going to discourage them is them going out again, voting, shit doesn't work out, and now they've got to go back. If you tell them now, like, look, the truth to the matter is there was Russian interference. We've seen it in everything from the fucking Mueller report. to the last, who was the guy that stepped down? Comey?
Starting point is 01:51:50 I don't know if it was, no, it wasn't Combe. He just stepped down. The security advisor. With Bolton? Bolton? I wasn't Bolton. I don't remember his fucking name. He stepped down a few months ago.
Starting point is 01:51:57 But he stepped down because he told everybody, look, the Russians are interfering with our elections. And after he said that, he got the fuck out of there. Do you know the, so when I was in Russia, I was asking them, like, what is your perspective on, like, collusion and, like, Putin and that kind of stuff? And they think it's laughable. I don't know about, listen, I didn't say collusion. See, that's the, that's the trick.
Starting point is 01:52:18 Right. I didn't say collusion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I said there's Russian interference. Right. I didn't say collusion. Because, yo, for all we know, maybe Trump isn't aware. I highly doubt it, but maybe he isn't aware.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Right, right. But when Mr. McConnell does something, like, after getting that intel, the week of that intel, they try to pass an election security bill, and he blocks it. That's on tell, that don't raise no red flags for nobody. Right. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, look, I'm not denying it. I'm not denying it. I'm just saying what the people that I see.
Starting point is 01:52:44 spoke to there basically said they had no you know pony in the race if you will they were just like yeah we don't think that's even it's just not even like and these are not people who are like pro or anti-putin they're just like no it just of course not I just don't like when Democrats say we don't
Starting point is 01:53:00 want to talk about it we don't want to say anything about it because we don't want to discourage people from voting they say that go listen to some breakfast club interviews when I go on CNN I say the same thing over and over for a reason It's cowardly. You're actually admitting defeat. Man, Pee was like, well, we got to win in the landslide. All of them are saying that.
Starting point is 01:53:19 It's not happening. You're not beating Donald Trump in a landslide. When the last presidential election has been a landslide. When I said it to me, Pete, Matt Pee goes, oh, you know, 8%, 10% could be considered a landslide. No, that's not, it's not happening in 2020. So unless they pass some type of election security, this shit is a rap.
Starting point is 01:53:37 So I got invited to like a kind of dinner that, I don't know how I got invited, but they basically brought a lot of people in politics, political operatives, together, and people in podcasting. And it was a guy who had made a lot of money in podcasting, and he was trying to use his money towards working for that, towards trying to figure out voter suppression and voting rights and everything. And it was like this long, open conversation, a lot of smart people. And basically, like, the takeaway from it was it's a difficult thing to fix and address because ultimately it's a local issue, right? Like, it's a hard thing to fix on a national level because it all has to do with the voting practices, not even in the states, like in the counties or the, and like you have to, and it's hard to, even if you were able to raise the money and Stacey, and Stacey Abrams was supposed to be on the board of this guy's organization and maybe she's doing her own thing now.
Starting point is 01:54:30 She has something called Fair Fight 2020. It's just, you got to start paying attention to local stuff. Like, you got to really pay attention to like who's on your board of elections. who's your city councilman. Because that's what it comes down to. It's not all coming from a federal or even state level. It's all on the local level.
Starting point is 01:54:47 I don't know if I agree with you, but I don't know if I totally believe it's not coming from a federal level of leave. Well, I think some of the energy... They don't want no paper ballots in certain places. Oh, I think the energy is coming, but the actual laws that are putting in a place are local.
Starting point is 01:55:01 I think the law and they control shit digitally, we fucked. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be like a scary election. There is no election. Trump is here until 2000. He dies. All right? So I got a lot of people who are obsessed with the fact that he has dementia and he's starting to fall apart and he won't make it to 2020.
Starting point is 01:55:22 I don't really see it. Look, who knows? Who knows? Who knows? But yeah. I mean, we will see what happens. Put it that way. I think we're done here.
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