The Brilliant Idiots - Lo Town Road (Ft. Loren Lorosa)

Episode Date: August 24, 2025

In this episode of The Brilliant Idiots Podcast, Charlamagne Tha God and Lauren LaRosa keep it real about the world of podcasting, pop culture, and everything in between. They break down how different guests shake up the audience, the ups and downs of fame, and why personal stories hit harder than any publicity stunt. From the influence of artists like Lil Nas X and Future, to the role of hip hop in shaping culture, Charlamagne and Lauren dive into how celebrity has evolved—and what it takes to actually last in the game. They also get into the power of audio, the future of podcasting, and why growth (both personal and professional) matters in media. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel https://www.simonandschuster.biz/books/The-Black-Family-Who-Built-America/Cheryl-McKissack-Daniel/9781668033999 Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Charlemagne the God. We are the Brilliant Idiot's Podcast. Yo, I forgot to pray. Hold on. All right. Listen, Andrew Schultz isn't here. Okay, Big Low is here. L.L. Cool Bay. Lauren La Rosa.

All right. So y'all go ahead and get your hate mail ready now. Go into your YouTube comments. Oh, you want. Go on Instagram. No, they're going to hate it. Here's the thing. Brilliant Idiots listeners hate when me and Andrew not here.

Yeah. So if Andrew not here, they don't care who's. sitting there. I get it. They're going to talk shit regardless. It's like they love when I was here. That's how you know that everything is subjective. Tell me why you feel that way.

Why do you feel that way? Because y'all have her own. Y'all have had her own multiple times. And I think it was like, y'all, 500 episode or something like that. What was that number when she was here? 500. And I was like, oh, she's like an unofficial part of the show because it's a big episode for y'all. So I just thought that y'all listened to your people.

I know they'd be on Taylor. But they love Taylor because when we'll be out, it'd be like, I'm a brilliant idiot, listener, hi, Teller, and I'd be like, yo, you're famous. And they do the same thing to not. That's my whole point. And I told Alex this yesterday when I was like, yo, let's do an episode this week. Even though we do have, you know, a couple episodes in the can, like, you know, that me and Hesi did. But I was like, yo, let's do an episode this week. We bring Lauren on.

Alex was like, they hate Lauren Larosa and they hate when y'all have women on. Why are you going to lie? Why are you not? Why are you saying? So I am not. Maybe they do hate me, but honestly, I think that's just trendy. What did Alex say? That go with my outfit at this one.

I said they don't tend to like when we have women fill in for any. Boom. That's what it was. Why? Because they're used to like mansplaining and like all that. I mean, they want to see Charlotte and Andrew. So if Andrews not here, for some reason, they want to see a guy. What's wrong with a little sexism?

What's wrong with a little misogyny once a week? Nothing in your world will work without your wife. Damn. Am I lying? I don't know how it pertains, but here wrong. So when you whisper around, sometimes you need a woman in the room. Oh, I agree. Okay.

Well, that's what's wrong with a little bit of sexism. But see, here's the thing. I like women that, you know, don't be like, oh, every time they hear something. Because we're just talking shit. It's not like we mean 99.9% of the shit we say. Y'all be being funny. That's it. We just talking shit.

It's all about the laugh. I like you better here than at the breakfast club. But maybe it's just because at the breakfast club, your attacks are targeted. Here. You can't fuck with Shultz. He'd be on your ass. You'd be trying, my dog and go dab. You read the stories.

He's the funny here. He's the comedian. Yeah, and you stand your lane. Yes. I'm not. By the way, that is why. You swear are you funny. No, that is why Brilliant Idiots has always worked.

He's the comedian. I'm the radio personality, the personality, whatever that means. You do play, the transition between the shows, you do very, very well. I'm glad you know how to stay in a lady. But that's actually why I had to do it this week, too, though, because I love doing brilliant idiots. I like talking to bring brilliant idiots. I like talking to bring. It is listeners, and we can come here and have, like, long-form conversations about things.

That's why I thought this would be a good platform for you as well. But who are you going to be today? You try to be funny, or you're a personality? I'm me. Because we need to know. I'm me all the time. You still be targeting me, though. Like, every week I get.

Let me see your hair. God, dang. No, because I'm just trying to see if he can talk about your hair, then I'm on. I don't got a cut right now. And it's not coming up. And first of all right. It's not the headline. It's going to roast me right now.

Yeah, not. And I never... And by the way, I never try to be funny. Oh, shut. I don't... This is Nick. Bro, this is the being... I'm talking about.

I never try to be funny. I like to talk shit and I like to laugh. It's in me, not on me. But I'm going to hell. I like to talk shit, lie, and laugh. Oh, we know you lie. Those are the three things I like to do. And you like to laugh.

That's it. So what's wrong with that? All right. That's what's wrong with that. That's what makes for good podcasting. Talking shit, lying, and laughing. If you can do those three things, You will have a successful podcast.

Lying? Yes. Lying leads to lawsuits. Well, listen, I ain't talking about that kind of lie. Kind of lying I'm talking about is like, Lord the way you'd be yelling at it. Yeah, when I say things to people that I know are a full-blown lie and they should know it's a lie but they don't know it's a lie.

So they go around and repeat it. That makes me laugh. Ryan Holiday wrote a great book called Trust Me I'm Lying. You ever read that book? No. Exactly. You should read that book. It's called Trust Me I'm Lying.

But that's literally what it's about. Like everything is damn near propaganda. for the most part. But I tell you when I'm lying, but you should believe me when I'm lying. Sometimes it's a little convincing. Like, people still walk up to me and try to see my underarms.

Then you know why they do that? Because you went on breakfast club, the first couple weeks I was there and told them people I don't shave my underarm. I didn't lie. You know, you was having a lot of stumbles. Yes, I shaved. He's a liar.

I mean, it wasn't like Janelle Monet, but it was there. People walk up to me and try to see what my underarms are like, I swear, like random people will come up and be like, he's lying, you are shaved. Well, now?

You wasn't shaved in? Yeah. I'm not going to lie, I did check your wig out just to see because they be... That's why it's a sewing. Oh, I don't know. It's different. That's why you need a woman in the room because there is different. But they talk about it a lot.

And I'm like, it don't look bad like when she's taking pictures and stuff. So it looks great. I never said it looked at. What? What? Baby. I never said it to me. The way you'd be jacking.

It'd be crazy because when I show up places, they'd be like, you're so well-polished. Charlamo me makes it seem like you just from the slums. Like, you have nothing to july. And I'm like, you're like, you have nothing. If I'm going to take that as a compliment or like what? You clean up well was the craziest one. Like, oh my God, you clean up so well. That's because of the dirty Delaware.

They ain't got nothing to do with us. That's because, you know, stereotypically from Delaware, which man? My man, don't do that. You better answer. Does he know you potting? Yeah, I'm right. You better tell him. Tell him what you're doing.

Hey, what's stuff number two? Okay. Number one. Who is that? There is no numbers. Why do you keep doing this? He's my husband. You don't say hello?

Hey, babe, I'm doing the podcast. I'm going to call you back. I'm going to call you when we're done. All right. Thank you. He nobody fucking called her just now. That was so fool. You didn't nobody call you.

I turned the damn because I didn't be awesome. That was spam. That was spam. That was spam. God, this is a phone spamming. Got this one. It's okay. Listen, that's the other thing she's trying to prove now.

She's trying to prove she got a man. I actually don't want to, I'm okay with no one ever. She almost told the truth just now. She actually started to say, I actually don't have a man. No. She didn't want to admit to herself. I don't want the world all in that. But every now and then I got to remind people you play a lot.

But the timing of that was low. Exactly. He's like, yo, I'm about to walk in right now, call me right now. So that's what it looked like. And I've been backed away from the single shit. I don't even talk about you being single no more. Because you know, I got me in. You got two.

I got videos. I swear to God, I don't know what you be talking about. Let me tell you how terrible Lauren La Rosa life is. Lauren La Rosa life is so terrible. She walks in the restaurants. I get text immediately. You have no idea, not even just restaurants. You have no idea how much people hit me and be like,

yo, Lauren La Rosa here right now. Do they be saying I be looking cute? No, they just be like Lauren here right now. And the funny point is they. But I think that's weird also. Why? Because who are, why? Do they send it to you?

Who are you? Oh. Mm-hmm. But what are you... So they tell you that to say what? Like... You're like, yo, your niece in here right now. Lauren LaRose in here right now.

Oh, shit. Lauren in here with a dude right now. Lauren in here with a guy right now. I mean, we trying to go to all the white spot, so nobody even... And what that mean? They don't know. People don't know me. They know me in the white...

But they don't even know to correlate me with you. All right. That's what you think. You, y'all, you must not know. First of all, let's talk about some things. Number one, breakfast club. You know, ratings came out today. We number one.

Right, number one, 18 to 49, number one 18 to what, what is it, 24, 34? And we're number 2, 2554. So don't get it fucked up in New York City, okay? Salute to New York City, New York City, thank you very much. So ain't too many places you're going to go in New York and people don't know who you are. How much is your life changed, Lauren? My life has changed so much. When you start filling in on the Breakfast Club?

2000, what? 20-23. During the auditions. Yes, yep. When did you notice the change? Instantly, first week. The first, no, not. Not the first day.

First day was crazy, but I think it was, first day was crazy, but that Wednesday, I think I came on like a Tuesday, so maybe it was a second day. I literally had to, like, get off my phone, I'd never experience anything like that. It wasn't even working. My phone was going so crazy. It was the first day because it was when I said I didn't work at TMZ no more. Okay. And it was just going so crazy.

People were like, I'm so happy for you. People were mad that they didn't know I quit the job, but I just never. And then your audience, they hated me for a long time. A lot of people in your audience hated me. They still do. That's when you know you're doing a good job. Yeah, but you told me a long time ago, you said, because also, too, my interactions with the guest on the show, because a lot of the guests didn't know me. And it was crazy because I'm like, y'all don't even know I've been working stories about your lives for the last eight years.

So you might not know me, but, I've been, like, kind of intertwined, but I understand. You're seeing your news producer at TMZ. Yeah, but I understood it. But my interactions with the celebrities would really make the audience hate me. And I'd be like, why are they so mad? This is what I'm supposed to do. Like, I just asked the question. They're like, who is this new motherfucking in here asking these questions like this?

Yeah, but you said as long as you're evoking an emotion from people, you're doing something, right? As long as you know your intention was well. That's what you said to me. That's it. So you've been doing Brothers Club for two, three years now. Yeah. Latest with Lauren LaRosa podcast is over 5 million views. I just found out.

5 million downloads, yep. So what makes you think you can walk anywhere in New York City? And I'm not saying everybody going to know you, but there's a large majority of people that's going to know you when you walk in a room. I know that people are going to know me when I walk in a room, but like you can, I, I have, I, at least thought you could feel it when people like, oh, that's the breakfast club girl. Not when you too busy, sauceed up, drunk. Doing things with your man in the middle

of the motherfucking restaurant. The video I got is crazy. First of all, it wasn't a restaurant. Who are you doing in the restaurant? So it was a wine bar. And it's literally, it was so low key. We just went out to dinner. We ended up in a wine bar.

And we was like, oh, let's just go here because it seemed cool. We walked in, and it was like a super white area of Brooklyn, like super gentrified. It's crazy. She thinks that unc ain't plugged in with the whites. So we walk in, we hear the music. I'm like, oh, they must be hit white people because they plan.

First of all hip hop is pop culture. A hundred percent. But, I mean, sometimes in them gentrified spaces, they're not, the music we was hearing, I'm like, somebody know a little something. Like, this is like hip hop. Then I'm looking around like. It's also Brooklyn. Yes, but you know it's real gentrified now in certain areas.

So I'm looking around, I'm like, there's a lot of black people in here. But everybody was chill. Like, we like, oh, we're good. He literally said, we're good in here. Everybody's chilling. No one said anything to me. Normally we in a black space, at least a couple people will come up in with like, yo.

I'm trying to guess by the context clues where you're at. I don't remember that he would know. I don't remember the name of the place. But we was in there having a great time just, you know, enjoying the night. The next day he's talking about why I get a text of a video with you in a kissing a man in a bar. I'm like, oh, oh, no. I never told people what the video was.

It's not a video. It's not my man. Whoa. Whoa, that was crazy. But you must have knew that I actually really liked him because you didn't say, you were out on vacation and you came back, but you didn't, you said you was going to make it a whole topic.

You let me live for a couple weeks. First of all, I've still never said anything. I've never told people that I got a video where you tongue kissing a man in the middle of a restaurant. You joke, he joke about that. I never, ever, you just said it for the first time. I like having, just having it holding over that wig. That's the only reason.

I just like having that. You never said. Even the other video I got. I just showed people. I don't know what other video you got. You got. I have no idea what you're talking about. I literally don't know what you're talking about.

You what? What are you talking about? Eight ball jacket, sauce the fuck up, acting like you were that 1990s Uncle Luke fucking video. Looking like an auntie from Freak Nick, wilding. I don't like that. Rinding on people putting discharge off of some niggas jean. What is you talking about? First of all.

You want to see it? No. Hold on. You want to see it out of him? No. First of all. That video was. Now that I know that that video was single, Lauren, okay, and it was my birthday.

I was drunk. That does not count. So you ain't even denied it. That's, this is crazy. I can. He has it on video. Oh, my God. I got both on video.

Y'all trying to ruin my marriage. You see that shit? Look how she holding on their head and make sure that shit don't fall off. No. Drunk is shit. Oh, you're trying to make a baby that night. God. Say him, Lauren.

God damn that LL cool thing. You are grinding. God. So when my man watches this episode, what do you all expect to come out of this? First of all, you just gave up too much information. I never want... About my man. Why are we talking about anything else?

I got... I'm honest. I don't know if this is the same guy. Why are we talking about anything else? What do you mean? Let's stay focused. So he was right. There are two guys.

No. One person that I am... Two niggalo. Two nigger low. That's your new name, two nigger low. Go ahead. Two niggalo. No, don't get that.

Don't do that. I am not her lying to nobody's son. I am literally in one direction and I am good where I'm at and it takes a lot to get me here. And I am here and we are happy and y'all are going to leave us alone. You know it. Do you have a boyfriend? Yes. And is that the guy in that video?

What guy? Video I just saw. Of me kissing? No, no one. I didn't show. I didn't. At least now I can tell it. Now at least the caps out of the bag.

Y'all know what the other video is. I've never told it. But you let us rock for a couple weeks. So you didn't say nothing about nothing. And then one day. I ain't tell nobody. I'm like, I didn't even tell the room. I never even told the room like, you know, I got video of Lauren tongue kissing.

Crazy tongue kissing too. Like, at a wine. At a wine bar. I mean, going crazy. It was like three people in there. We really didn't think it was nobody. Like we were chilling. Why does that make it better?

Because I want to kiss for me. I'm trying to find this text from that night when they started texting me. No, don't. I can't find them though. You thought she was on a low through that. And I didn't even text that night. I'm in his white neighborhood. Nobody was, so low.

Honestly, though, you know how you're just out having a good time. I'd be so, that's how I know this is my husband. Because I just be so like, whatever. Is he a public figure? Like a celebrity. Oh, the place is called Sossed. Oh, yeah, very confused. Oh, okay.

Yeah, no. But I just, I think we were just going with the flow that night. This was the funny shit. No, no, no. No, you're not. No, you don't. No, you don't. Okay, can I say one part, though?

No, no, no, no, no. What happened? No. What are you worried? No descriptions of nothing. You just gave it every you gave it all over? I said I was kissing my man. No, you're not.

Well, we're done this. I'm going to show you a real picture of a name. What? Y'all not going to do, y'all not going to say my name on here. Y'all not going to do that. Let's do some all memes matter, man. I'm saying. Lauren LaRosa is a pop culture expert.

You pick. She was a senior news producer at TMZ. Now, I don't know if you listen to the show, Lord. I know you do, but I don't know if you ever listen to a full show. But we start off the show by doing something called All Memes Matter. And this is where we just go through a series of memes. Okay. Okay.

And we commentate on whatever the memes are. The Taylor sent these over? Yeah. So she put it with her descriptions. I don't even know what the fuck they are. Little to Taylor, man. Little PJ is actually a month old now. Can you believe it's been a whole month?

Wow. Since Taylor gang had a baby? I'm excited. When I met Taylor, she hated men. She hated men? Yes. All y'all hate men until y'all got one. I didn't hate men.

That hate men is literally just like you're only upset because you don't have one. I didn't hate men. You're upset that you don't have one. You're looking at everybody that's in a relationship and you really want that. You thought I hate it, man? No. But that's what I always tell women, and I think I've told you this, before you gotta be intentional with your ass.

If you run around saying shit, like, I hate men, I don't like guys, father, you niggas, all of this type of shit, guess what the universe is gonna reward you with? Not a goddamn thing. Yeah, oh, Lord, not her. Man, let's start with Lil Nasak, man.

Before we even get, like, can we just start with Lil Naszac? Like, let's start with Little Nazek. Because I saw that on the way in today, and it pains me that, it pains me. Because, you know, I'm a mental health, for advocating.

What? Yeah, let's play. Let's play. Let's listen. We're at. You know where it's at. Now, go ahead, babe. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, no.

No, no, no, no. Go ahead, babe. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Didn't I tell you to put the phone down? Uh-oh, somebody's going to have to pay for that. Dach, da, da, da, da, da, da. You got a video. He said he got a potty.

He said, he got a party. What did he say? I said something about the party. Is what me in that point? What do you say? So, Hey, four of I coming to the party. Pause right there.

I don't describe the people what we're seeing. Little Nazex is walking down the street with some cowboy carter boots on and some tidy whiteys. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. He's walking in L.A.

They said he's acting like he's on a fashion runway at 4 a.m. And, yeah. And they said he was hospitalized for a suspected overdose. Let's hear some more. I am serving you. And you better be at that party tonight.

Oh, yes, get my good side. Nice body, though, man. Baby, the walk is eating down. I don't know if I was allowed to say that because of the circumstances. What you're in the circle? What should be? He's obviously out of, like, out of it.

Oh. Can you serve it? Oh, baby. The walk is serving down. He clearly not missing no workouts, is what I'm saying. It's not like he looked down trial. Or a man. Backy boy, you want this.

Charlie, you won't come in that anymore? You like it? You like it? No, you like it what you see, apparently. Go off, girl. Give me that phone so I can throw it. I didn't see all. I want to throw it far away, so you'll never see it again.

Who's following his report? There was a random person I just rode by. Don't miss the party tonight. Why are you still here? I don't believe that. You need to be telling everybody about the party, girl. Boy, I'm in L.A. and no more angle. So go to TMZ's website.

Hold on this. That's it. Here's the thing, right? Yeah, go to TMZ website. They broke the story. They said that there were calls to the police from a couple different people saying that there was a man. So he was second to the hospital, but then he was actually booked for battery on an officer because when the officers tried to, somebody called the police. When the police came, the officers tried to get him and he, like, tried to get away from them. But go down to the-

There's no video in the altercation with the police? Go up, click his name real quick. There's no Mochak. At the top. At the top. Little Ozzyx. Click on the officer after naked escapade. He wasn't naked.

Now, click the first. story after he's landing in the hospital in the middle okay so this is the one go down and it says something about there were there was put calls to police little nazex for all the streets of la and tidy white here's the thing man while we're getting the details of this story i hate that we live in a world where especially in regards to little nazex my first reaction is publicity's thing that was my first one i can but i mean no but with i can get what you're saying that it's sad but when it comes to little nazex he has to has done things that people felt like were publicity stunt-ish, like the blood on the shoes,

whatever. But in this story, TMZ says that they spoke to police and they tried to reach out to the rest, but they've confirmed that this wasn't a stunt. This is literally in the story because I'm sure they thought so too. And I'm not saying this is a stunt, but I'm saying this still could be a stunt because even if the police came, you can still put on a show for the police and end up getting arrested. But they took them to the hospital for a possible OD, so there should be some sort of like medical something that will be talked about.

It should be. I mean, I just hate that we live in this world. You know what I mean? Like, I hate that we live in a world where somebody can go through a drug overdose, you know, have a mental breakdown. And the first thing I think to myself is publicity. You know what I mean? Like, and I don't know if it's because I just don't believe most of what I see nowadays

are because if it's a little, or because it's little naus X. I mean, I think it's both, but also, too, the videos. So when I saw this, I was like, that's a heck of a video. Like, the video is so clear. It's so... Yeah. His drawers are clean. You know what I'm saying?

You're like bleached white. But he... Dirty. How dirty you're your drawers? He's little not Zex. He's not down and out. He's just going through something. Wear the rest of his clothes.

Body perfectly oiled. There's no oil in his body. It's not oil. You're looking hard, bro. Yeah, baby. He's getting... Is this the publicity sign you are? He just looked like, where's,

there's no other... accessories, like nothing, like no belt, no, no, you just took everything off. You need a second? You got a cool. Go on a little Niles X's Instagram, because there was a video he posted, I think it was like a day ago. And I was like, this is weird, but I was like, it's just Lil Nas X being who he be now. Was there a cowboy carter concert in L.A. that night? Like, why he had on boots?

Like, I'm just, I'm really, I'm, and listen, I hate to be this person. And if I'm wrong, hey, you know, feel free to be upset. But I just, it's hard for me to believe. this stuff that I be seeing now day. He posted this a day ago. Okay,

so he had boots on in this video too. So listen, in this video a robe, a robe in a man purse.

And a tambourine. And a tambourine. So clearly, Under that robe is tidy wodies and nothing else. And he's got the cowboy boots on. You said this was a day before. But those are different boots, clocked accessories. Those are 10.

He was in white boots on the street. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what I'm saying was is maybe this, if it isn't a publicity stunt, there may have been signs within the last 24 hours that he was dealing with something. Because people in the comments of this, like,

you all right? Bring Lil Nas X back. Like, what's going on? But free to people now? I don't know, man. I'm just, I'm not, listen, I hope that, you know, all of this is true because I still want to believe in people. I want to believe that, you know, people aren't out here just like really selling their soul and really like fuck it and doing all types of wild shit for attention. I want to, sadly, as sad as the story is, I want to believe it's true.

Like, I want to believe that, you know, he did have an overdose and he did, you know, have a mental breakdown. But just this just feels like very, uh, publicity stunish. I would want the opposite. I hope this is just the publicity. I hope he's not going through something. True. No, that's a great point. I would rather him actually be going to this.

I don't want to believe we live in a world where people pretend to do shit like this. But we know that. This, though? Yeah. God damn, yo, you're going to go this far. You're going to go this far pretend to overdose and get arrested for what? But see, here's the thing. Everybody's talking about him right now.

But how do you pretend to overdose? Because I don't know where it's that in this story, but in the story, you don't It doesn't say he overdosed. It says that the police took him to the hospital and they said potential overdose. So it was something they saw. What does it say? I mean, God damn, Lord, if you walk down the speech and your drawer singing, you know, acting like you are. But you could be high in it not be an overdose.

Officers told paramedics it was a possible overdose and Nause was transported to the hospital. So the police observed something that made them feel like he had overdosed. Like, you could just be high out of your mind. And do this. You don't got to be overdose. The police who are professionals saw something. I wonder what they saw that made them feel like he was like. an overdose. Walking naked down the street

singing. But what she said is true, he could just be high. So many overdose. You know what I mean? Like, what did he do that made him? What did he do that made him look like he had an overdose? And it says several people in the area had reported to LAPD that they saw a nude man walking in the road at 4 a.m. This is not

this is not like a low-key road either. This is Studio City. By the way, the naked cowboy been doing this shit in Times Square forever. Ain't nobody ever called the motherfuckuckold of police on the necker The naked cowboy walking around in underwear and cowboy boots with a guitar in the dead of winter. And ain't nobody ever called the police and say, yo, man, there's a motherfucker out here, you know, with underwear on, tidy whiteies and some cowboy boots in the guitar. In the dead of winter, the naked cowboy be out there. So I don't know. This story just don't feel right.

Because this is not, I hate to say, this ain't some abnormal shit. There's really not some, like, I'm sure in L.A. You used to live in L.A. L.A. L.A. You've seen junkies doing crazier shit than this. Junkies, but to be Little Nizex, he's a superstar. Well, you don't like that word thrown around easily. But he has a huge, he's a big celebrity. You recognize him instantly by face, white, black, yellow, red,

no matter what type of person you are, you would recognize Little Nizax. Even if you don't, there's a chance out of five people who saw him at least three or two new ones. If I was driving down the street and I saw this spectacle, all I would think to myself is, oh, Lil'Naz X shooting a video or something. With nobody ain't on camera. Nowadays, yeah, there's a camera. If I drove by and saw a person in the car recording him and he walking doing the runway shit,

doing it, I'm like, Little Nas X Wilden again. That's what he does. What's the dip he did? Show me? Say you saw what he did. the person filming him is the only person there. And that's what makes him more suspicion.

Before that, it was just a man walking alone. That's the crazy part. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. And then once he realizes the little nazex, now he's like, oh shit, I'm about to get paid by TMZ. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Go to the one for a charge of them. Yeah. They pay. I was going to say, I'm so used to that. They pay for photos, videos, and documents. But it has to be something. And also two people would be thinking it's a crazy payday.

Typically it isn't, but I would say for something like this, you're going to get a couple, probably get a couple dollars, depending on what you call a couple dollars. Just like, maybe like, I don't know. I think you get a good like 4,000, 5,000 max for this. Really? Yeah. But that's like a stretch.

Like, you'd be surprised at what doesn't, what things don't equal up to. I don't know, man. That's a lucky late-night car ride right. Yeah. God bless you know, I'm wishing them the best, but just, I don't know. And it's like, by the way, it's not my friend. fault that I feel like this is a publicity stunt. Little Nazek's hasn't earned that because he's done a lot of, you know, he's created a lot

of spectacles. This is his thing. I was, I actually, when I saw this video, the first thing I thought was, damn, he hasn't been doing nothing in a while. He ain't really whiled out in a while. Like, you know what I mean? When the last time he wilded out with the state and shit? That I can remember.

But the last story I remember him, he was in a hospital because he was having issues controlling, like, his facial movement. So he was trying to figure out. Oh, I remember that. That was the last story I saw of him, but. Well, shout out to Lord Nazeck. What else we got? All memes matter, man. What all memes matter?

What is this? Oh, that's what was the first one. What is it? You look tacky. This is about Lauren Wick? Phil Tennessee. I didn't drove. I didn't drive.

I could her Uber. A $60 Uber. I don't even know where this club at. I don't know where is that. Bull told me I couldn't even come in the club because I was tacky. There's no dress code. There's no dress code or nothing in there, bro. There's a lot of girls that's looking like anything in there.

And you're telling me I'm tacky, bro? Is you crazy, but I don't like you shorts with a white polo seat, bro. Stop playing with me, Paul. You're going to call me taggy? I'm glad you said that, bro. I'm not fucking security. Listen, I'm right here.

I don't even know where I met right now. It's called Ella. Let me sort of, um. Stop playing with me, Paul. But I'm not to pull the name up right now on my page. He said I can't, I couldn't come in because I'm peggy. Because I'm taggy. Look at the second copy.

I got some for you. I want to speak. I want to speak. Mind you, bro, look at the people, look at the people that's going to the club. Mind you, I'm asking. No, I'm her mom. I want to speak to the manager. Bring the manager out.

Okay. Bring the manager out. So, where's the manager for here? You're recording the wrong thing, Mey, Ball. You got to get video of the people to prove that they look tacky, too. So this is where I'm at, y'all. Imagine Meyball putting the video on whoever that is in the club. And the person in the club think they was killing it with a thing.

Now they watch Meatball video and they're like, damn, she think I look like that. So who's the manager? Nah, Meatball, they all dress a little, a little better. Hey, how you doing? And they know her. They said I can't come in here because I'm too packing. You know. You said, stop.

They're showing Meatball love. The bottle girls and the waitresses or whatever. But she was just all like this like, ah, you can't. So why you're talking to him? I don't know. Oh, yeah, he just called me techie. He said, I can't come in because I'm techie. I'm techie.

I'm techie. Let Meatball in the fucking club. Did she ever get in? That's what I want to know. We don't want to get in. We don't want to get in. He just, he just, he was just disrespected my character, bro. All right, listen, the headline is Meatball says she was denied entry to a popular spot in Nashville at the security time.

after security told her she looked tacky. I'm embarrassed. First of all, me ball looked perfectly fine to me. Everything, she's right. Everybody that I see going in the club is dressed similar. Meatball looked like Meyball. That's how Meabal is.

Somebody in the comments that she's walking around looking like Lil Nas X. That's fucked up. Nothing about how meat ball looks like little Dawzegh, okay? Like nothing at all. If Lil Nasek standing next to Mebaugh, it looks like the number 10.

But let me tell you something else. Motherfucking, Meball is great. is cool as shit, man. You've got to let Meatball in the club. But Nashville is White Atlanta. I don't know if y'all know that. I love Nashville.

That's one of my favorites. Nashville's a fun city. So how the manager or the promoter didn't know who Meatball was? Because she all over the Graham's scoped team. They do know. Everybody's coming out there, see me what's up, Meekball?

So why they ain't let her in? Maybe they did. Did they ever let her in? Let's watch the whole video. I don't know. Did she ever get in the club? No punishment. He just did some discrimination stuff, bro.

Yeah, bro. Is that a manager or security guard? Oh, security guard. How y'all doing? People are freaking out, by the way. Like, holding cameras and excited on this year. Okay. I'm glad everybody thinks that it's funny.

Yeah, that's fucked up, yo. I guess this is the guy at the front that didn't let her in. That's the owner right there. And I feel like, as being in the security, he has a time to prepare people. Listen to the Unk for a second, man. Don't ever beg to get in nowhere. If you go to a club or an establishment and they don't want to let you in, just say peace. Like, no, I get, you know, why meatball probably did what she did, but it's just like,

don't even give them that satisfaction. You know what I mean? Like, I don't never trip. And you know what I hate when you go to a place and, you know, they don't let you in, but then somebody be like, oh, you know who that is? And then they want to let you in, no, I'm cool. I don't want to be in here. I don't want to be in this establishment.

I don't want to be in here because of, you know, who you think I am or because of who somebody told you I am. If you don't think I'm. When's the last time you couldn't get in anything? He don't even act, though. No, but I will say that. I learned that from you, too. Exactly.

You don't go nowhere. It's easy to say that shit. But when you go, but also, you gotta move different when you go places. So you can't be like, hey, I'm coming. Like, you come as like CIA agents. It's all these things. I don't even like to tell nobody I'm showing up nowhere. Exactly.

That's what I'm saying. Because I don't want any type of special treatment. Like, when I go to people's establishments, I like to pay my way in. I like to pay for what I'm eating. I like to pay for what I'm drinking. Like, I don't want any. any, you know, like, what's the word?

Perks. Like, I just wanted, I want everything to be regular. But what about not saying this about Meatball? Because she's booked. Like, people love Meatball. She's on, like, people love Meatball. She's on, she was on, um, was it Baddies or what? I think she was on one of them Zeus shows.

I ain't want to admit it, but I have no idea who Meatball is. You don't know what Meatball is? I'm going to show you her video. You, I feel like, so during the pandemic and all the riots and stuff, I feel like that was her, like, that was her, like, I don't want to say, what she was. It was something involved with the Luda. I don't know what her role was. Are you accusing her of a crime?

No, I'm not. But it was something where, like, she was trying to do it. It was super viral. But she's super funny. She's from Philly. I think her energy is really great, too. That's all I like. I don't know people.

Yeah, she gets into crazy topic, not topics, but crazy little memes, but her energy is real good. That's what I see. Yeah, she went to Philly a Wallow birthday party. Remember that? When she was at Walo birthday party and she was dancing with everybody and she was, she had her makeup done and all that. I remember a video with Beanie Siegel. I don't know about the Wallo.

I don't remember the Wallow thing, but I just like her energy. See, I worked in Philly. I did radio on 100.3 to beat in Philly back in, like, 2009. So I love Philly. Philly always shows me a lot of love. So when I see Gilly and Wallow and Meatball and people like that, like they represent what the city of Philly is to me.

You know what I mean? People like Charlie Mack, you know. And don't get me around, the Kevin Hart's and the Will Smiths and all of them do, too. Like, there's a certain thing about you in Philly, especially when you're still there living there today. It's just a certain pleasant energy. You know, everybody knows Philly get busy, you know,

but when you meet the meatballs of the world, she just got a good energy, like Lauren said. So I've never met her that I remember. I never met her either. She's funny as hell of it. Yeah, I just like her energy on social media. And she got a brand too that she, I think people don't even catch it,

but her ain't nothing brand that she'd be pushing it because she's so viral, so she put on her hats, she'd be having people in her hands. She got merch? Yeah, look, it's a whole brand called. Oh, this is a meat, Ball merch, man. Salute the Meatball. Yeah. Salute the Meatball. What else we got, Alex?

You want to take a... Pay some bills? Damn, already? How long we've been talking? Uh, 35. Oh, shit. At ain't nothing brand shop now ain't nothing. That's what shit. Because Meatball be like, ain't nothing. I'm gonna order some meatball shit tonight. Let's pay some bills. If you pull a muscle, all of a sudden you realize how often you use that muscle. So the bladder is exactly like.

that. When it's working well, we don't think about it. But when it's not working properly, you're getting up at night or in the cases of many men, you may have some leakage. If this is something that's affecting your quality of life, there are really good solutions these days. Penn makes the guard and the shield. The shield would be if you have some leakage on occasion, if you have heavier leakage, you could use the guard. Now, Lauren, this is the segment of the show where we do church announcements. So we talk about what we got going on. So I want to tell everybody make sure you go pick up Cheryl McKissick Daniel's book the the black family at Built America I thought I had a copy with me but I don't have a copy with me but it came out last

week it is the latest release on black privilege publishing McKissick and McKissick is a fifth generation owned construction company black woman owned minority ran construction company it's so fire oh man she's very much like what I aspire to be Well, she does construction. So what you mean? When you say this is a boss, you mean? As a boss, but you know my mom and my grandmother buy property and flip them, but I feel like their businesses. I always said that I wanted to, like, level up their business.

It only hit a certain point because they only knew to do what they knew to do. And one of my home girls in Wilmington, shout out to Evolve, she just became, she got like a black woman and contractors license. And the government gives you grants because not a lot of women, particularly black women in urban neighborhoods, are doing construction companies. So she was able to buy a full block. in one of the neighborhoods I grew up in, so she has a development company and construction company now. And I was looking at that,

and I'm like, this is how I do it. This is how I take their business to the next level. Like, I want to be a mogul in that. So seeing their story, I'm like, that's crazy. That's why you should read the Black Family Who Built America by Cheryl McKissick.

Lincoln Field, they contributed to Lincoln Field in Philly, the Barclays Center, JFK Airport, all types of stuff, man. So go out there and buy that, wherever you buy books. And thank you to everybody who has been supporting this

Illuminati, my comic book series. Both two issues are out right now. It is a five-issue series that tells you all about the Black Illuminati. This is actually the whole graphic novel with all five issues in there. But the first two are in comic bookstores right now. So go check your local comic bookstores and go pick up Black Illuminati. What church announcements you got, L.L. Kubei?

I just want you guys to go and download, subscribe to the podcast, the latest with Lauren La Rosa. Because I don't even be knowing when we hit... How come it doesn't like ding or something when you hit like another? Like when you hit a certain like, okay, boom, here's one million, here's two million. Like I wanted this podcast to be so huge. Not one. It will be. So I want you to go and listen.

People don't know sometimes because we want to talk about it as much on the breakfast club that it's a daily podcast. It's like a daily podcast. Quick breakdown. And you just celebrated your 100th episode, right? Yes, 100 episode. And the 100th episode is just me like going back to the journey. Like when we first started and just learning everything and learning how to. talk to nobody but myself and down where we are now and you know all the things so make sure y'all

go listen and download the latest with la rosa oh make sure you go listen download the latest with la rosa and for anybody that has my youtube channel la rosa tv we do a lot of behind-the-scenes content there so i vlog and have been vlog in my life since i first moved to l-a so it's very candid very real here's what i'm going through here's what i'm dealing with and i'm about to get back to that because now i feel like i can talk i laughed my ass off the first week you launched your podcast because they came out the woodwork hey la Oh my God. But I told you that was going to happen.

I never see. First of all, I feel like when you get to a certain age range, you shouldn't even be allowed to be a hater. But it seems like the Maddies don't have an age cap. There's no ceiling on hate. It's just like. Oh, no, the older you get if your life isn't what you wanted to be and you see other people around you and they're actually prospering,

the hate gets worse. Yeah. But I think, you know what I'm realizing? I'm less of a haters as I get older. Why were they hating when you first love? Because my setup, it wasn't like, it was. And we was just figuring it out. Like, my setup was crazy.

My audio was going in and out of being crazy. I literally was figuring out as I was going. I think I under, like, I was thinking of my podcast, like how I do YouTube. Like, okay, we just set up a camera. We'd be good. Oh, okay. No. Now it's like, we got it.

Like, I'm in a studio now. Shout out to Sky House, New Jersey. And I got a studio partnership. So we're doing all the things. But also, too, I think I came out of the gate trying to do too much. Like, I really think I just. Are you saying this because you really mean this? Because they didn't put pressure on.

on you on that. No, no, no, no, no, no. I swear to God. Talk to Dolly, who is, is she VP or president? President. President. President. Don't play with Dolly Bishop. Is the president of the Black Effect Network? And I remember... She's the only reason this shit works. Yeah, I told you women. That's what... You gotta tell me. Oh, well, you said what's wrong with little sexism. That's what's wrong. But anyway... It was a joke. That's why people don't like women because they can't take jokes. That's why people don't like me. Um, but anyway, Dolly came to me one day and she was like, look, I see you trying to figure a video thing out,

but you're stressing yourself out, just get the flow of your show and then add video in. And I was like, no, because if I don't do video, I'm going to lose the audience. And she was like, the gold is in audio anyway.

So get that and then use that to pay for the video and I figured it out. And I just was like, whatever. You didn't learn from your headdressing not to experiment. Like, no, no, I'm not really, I don't need it like that.

You know what I mean. You know what I mean. I don't get to do at breakfasts club. I will literally squirt this water at you. You already told all the Breakfast Club listeners. You love making people. people mad at me because you know you hurt my ears feeling.

Who's my ear? My hair's stylish. I didn't tell. You need to look at one of these cameras and apologize. What did I do to my ear? You made it seem like she was so horrible at her job that I fired. Yes, she did. Yes, you did.

And that is not true. No, I did not. That is not true. I did come in looking out of her head because I thought it was bad always. My ear does a good job. It's what Lauren does to it afterwards. You know what I'm saying? She's like a person who gets braised and takes a brush and then brushing the brain.

You brushed them fresh braids. First of all, Shout out to Miami and Miss Mite on Instagram, because that was crazy. You said that she never had done wigs before. She was new to, yes, the wig life. And never told you that. Well, I mean, because when you get an opportunity to do something, she's from Philly too. She's from Philly too. She hungers.

She's hungry. She just wanted to figure it out. And to find way you were with the video or the podcast. Exactly. You let her experiment on you and you went on air. I didn't know. So, first of all, it wasn't, it wasn't even all crazy like that. It was like going to a barb that just started to learn how to cut hair I wonder why your line fucked up

I didn't know that she It took me a couple of times where I was like Okay this isn't right like how I love it to be For me to be like you know what I think your niche for me is my natural hair And like things like sewings and stuff like that And we'll figure out somebody else for the wigs But you know me now so you know what I like

And I don't like so even when I bring somebody in You can instruct them like We have a real thing going now I have like a calendar of events. Maia knows all the events. So when I do have to bring people from other states, she's telling them, okay, she got to go here for this. This style's going to be good for her because Lauren will do this to her hair.

If you do this, she won't touch it. So Ma'i has found her place. She leads when it comes to hair and glamour for me. Don't do that to her. But no, I'm just, the only reason I bought that up is because just like Dolly told you, don't worry about the video right now. You're trying to do too much. And you don't really know what you're doing.

Oh, fuck with that right now. But the audio's booming. It was, yeah. But see, that's the thing. People forget podcasting is audio. And I think the video mechanism is a great component. But I think people, once again, I tell everybody in the podcast space, don't get it fucked up. The money is in the audio.

Yeah. You know, and still by a long shot, but you should still be doing video. Yes. Because it compliments it. Like, I was watching somebody this week and they were talking about the top 44 most powerful people in podcasts. Oh, you. They were talking about you. Well, no, they were talking about the top.

They were talking about you. No. The Hollywood reporter, which they've done for the last four years. I've been on it three of the last four years. I wasn't on it the first year. I've been on it the last three years. This is the first time I've ever been on it as executive before I was on it at the talent.

But they were talking about the top 44 most powerful people in podcasting. And first of all, a lot of people don't know what they're talking about because they act like it's a ranked thing. It's not a ranked thing. Like it's not one through 44. It's just a list. It's just a list. It's like a list to the list.

So you have your talent section, you have your executive section, you have a few agents. And then for some reason they had Andrew Schultz as a talent after all the agents and everybody else, after the agency and executives. But I was watching somebody and they were saying that there was numbers when it's not numbers. And they was like, Joe Rogan's number 17. And then somebody in the room goes, well, his videos don't really go as viral as they used to. That's great. And I'm like, you. you don't even know what podcasting is about.

You made that statement. You clearly don't even know what podcasting is about is if you're saying Joe Rogan's video, first of all, I see Joe Rogan videos all across my timeline, all the motherfucking time. That's number one. But number two, go look at his audio download numbers

and then get back. See, but I didn't know that though until I started talking to you about podcasting. I honestly didn't know the difference. I knew that you could sell audio and video differently, but I didn't know. that the gold and podcasting wasn't audio and that video is great and you can make money off of it and it's a marketing too i didn't know

the podcasting is an audio medium just like radio is a audio medium there's a lot of radio stations as you should breakfast club has been doing it since day one who record their radio programs and put their content out on a daily basis yeah but we're still a largely audio media podcasting radio it's audio like that's what the podcasting world is like You can go on Mel Robbins page right now and look at Mel Robbins' YouTube videos. And they do well, you know what I mean? You know, you hundreds of thousands. Some might hit a million. But her audio numbers be stupid.

Like when I did Mel Robbins podcast, the video online might have, I don't even know, maybe 400,000 and a half a million views. But the audio numbers is like 9 million, 10 million. It's a different ballgame. So when I hear people talk, I'm like, you don't clearly understand the podcasting game. just yet. But don't get me wrong, you do need a video. I personally think you need a video component. Yeah, well, now I have it. Now it's just getting used to like posting it all the time, on time. It's the consistency of it when normally I'm just used to doing a vlog when something happened.

But it's like now it's like no, every day. And I'm trying to figure out, do I get somebody that does that so I can make sure it's consistent. It's so much to it, but you don't figure that out until you win it. But when Dolly told me that, I was like, I tried for a long time. I was tired. I was exhausted. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to take a break from video. And when Diddy start, I'm gonna just do iPhone video. And it worked. And she literally, I always hear her say, don't stress yourself. Like, learn your lane, do it. And then you add more on.

You're stressing yourself out too much right now. You're doing too much on it. I always hear her voice tell me that. And it worked. It's true. It's true. Future look a little stressed out. You know, we were talking about...

I don't understand. Fucked up hair. You think you went to your person? You think you went to your person, Lauren? She's just got a new look. What's it given? I saw somebody say he went from Wanda Sykes to Lori Lightfoot. The man, Chicago.

The man, Chicago. No, I'm not even going to hold you. For real. Because she always looked like she just got caught out for like a natural disaster or emergency in Chicago. Here's the thing. You know why this works for Future? Because he's future. Future can do whatever the fuck he wants, man.

When you get to a certain level in life, man, and you've reached a certain status in life, you know, and you've, you know, created the legacy that futures created. You're supposed to act like this. I missed when superstars acted like this. I don't like the regular city bike riding superstars. Salute to Jay Cole and all of them, you know what I mean? That's your thing. But if you want to be a superstars, I come from the era of Prince with his ass out.

I have a question. Michael Jackson had a fucking pet monkey. But you just said the whole little nice X thing, okay, praying that this wasn't just a publicity stunt. But if it was, you just said you don't, you wish that it, like you don't want publicity sense like that. Listen, it's a podcast. things don't have to make sense, but I also want to do it. But no, but I can make it make sense. If Little Nas X was doing that on purpose,

wild to fuck out, Little Nas X. Not even as a publicity stunt, not even as an overdose. I feel like putting on my tidy witties and some cowboy boots and strutting down the street in L.A. at 4 a.m. in the morning like I'm walking the runway. That's some old school superstar shit. Baby.

Like some of the stuff that the streamers do. Like they just do wild shit. Do wild shit. You're going to do it. Do it. Like, yo, Lil'nott, I grew up on jackass. All them white boys was in their drawers all the motherfucking time running around. So, for real.

So it's just like, yo, that, like, if he had done that just because he felt like doing it, yeah, rock out with your fucking cock out. Literally, Lil Nas X. It's not my favorite future, look. But I will say, what I like about future is, he don't give a fuck. He'd be so unbothered. He literally lives his life, how future wants to live his life. You know why?

He don't care about nothing. You know why? He's future. That's the motherfucking architect of March madness. Okay? All right? That's the motherfucking architect of Tony Montana. God blessing all the trap niggas. Okay, that man gave us one of the greatest mixtape runs in hip hop history. He can do whatever the fuck he wants. And by the way, I don't think y'all even understand how big future is. I say that shit all the time. I think it's because of the type of music he makes. But when you look at the last 15 years, and I've said this on this podcast before, everybody talks about the big three. They talk about the drinks and the coals and the kindred. It actually was a fantastic fore. And his name was motherfucking Future Hendrix. Do you know Future, there's only like four or five artists who got more number one albums than Future?

I think, so. Look that up, Alex. It's only like four or five hip-hop artists in the history of hip-hop who got more number one albums than Future. So you're saying that the Big Three Conversation should have been Big Four and Future would be Four. God damn right. It's not even close. Okay. To play Devils Advocate, I think people will argue that.

You talk about Jay Cole. you talk about Kendrick Lamar, you hear their lyrics clearly. People like to say, I don't even know a future be saying, regardless of the impact of it's going to sound. Get hired. I don't understand. Because we can't deny the, people do try to deny the impact of his sound and his look the way he was dressed, the ponchos, all the

things, right? There was influence there, but people will say those are lyrical artists, you don't even know a future be saying. Yo, that's, I can understand future, but I can I do concede your point. I absolutely agree. But also he was more, he's the most influential out of all for them.

Come off. For a whole generation, the last 10 to 15 years. Oh, you mean because he carries into so many different generations, is what you're saying. I'm just saying he's the most influential. Like, everybody was trying to sound like... The way you dress, found. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Yes. Because I think, so because you talk about Kendrick, well, even over Drake? Yes. Yeah, nobody wants to wear out. Yeah, true. You don't know if you lie that work with us at breakfast. Bro, and they be having fur on the inside.

That's what I'm saying. weird. But yeah, okay, so across, yes. I would agree weirdly enough. I never thought I would agree with that. Jay Z. JZ 14 number one's, Drake, 14, number one's Kanye 11, Eminem 11, and the next person is J-Cole with six. Think about that. But there's only four, who you say, Jay Z, Drake, King, C, Cig, I mean, no, Jay Z, Drake, Kanye, and Eminem. Only four artists in the history of hip-hop have more number one albums in future.

How many number one albums, future guy? 11. 11. Y'all motherfuckers, man, y'all don't appreciate. Listen, I'm not, I'm from South Carolina. So I'm just going to say, I'm sick of the South disrespect.

I was about to say, it's because he's still in Atlanta. I'm telling you. Because he's still in Atlanta. Come on, man. And he talks about how he hated it. But remember when he was dealing with Sierra, he went to L.A., he was doing all the things.

People were like, oh, my God, because he's with Sierra, his stars rising, no. I mean, that relationship was a topic. But I think because he was in L.A., people considered him a celebrity. People look at, people never give future. They're going to be bad that you said that. They don't give it to him no way to they

I think it's the type of music that he makes, meaning that J. Cole, Drake, Kendrick, they all make music that is more commercially digestible. March Madness is the theme for so much, though. March Madness should be the theme for March Madness and it's not true. Every fucking March. It's never been. Not that I remember. Every fucking March when we watch an NCAA college basketball, you should hear that in the background. then it's going into commercials. If it had, forgive me if it has and I haven't thought it. You've got to look that up. It's never been.

Think about the majority of people who are watching college basketball. They know future. What? There's more white than the NBA. The white people love him. No, I'm not even going to, you can't, but that's what I mean. If he was out of Atlanta living the whole celebrity lifestyle doing his purple hair shit,

you wouldn't say that. But because he's in Atlanta, he's very to himself, he's still outside with the niggas when you want to be, people don't that. To even say that, white people we don't listen to Future, they love him. They love him. Word for word, March Madness, jumping up and down to that college games.

I was at Drake's show when he went, when it was him in Future, when they went on tour together. Them, and by the way, that was the most diverse audience I had ever seen in my life at a hip-hop concert, ever. I'm talking about that shit looked like the United Nations. There was white people, black people, Indian.

I mean, everything was represented in there. And they was wilding out the future shit. Wilding. I just think it's the type of music he makes Because you think a song like Molly Parker said he had to turn it into a represent. You know what I mean? Like I just think he don't make that type of commercially appealing music. But the fact that he still does, he still has sold that many records.

Come on, man. I'm just sick of the Atlanta disrespect. There's a couple of people that we don't give the props to. It's motherfucking future. We had this discussion on Breakfast Club earlier this week. Little motherfucking John. And Little John went viral this week because, you know, of his physical. But it's just like, Little John is one of the most underrated, unappreciated, producers, and cultural figures in hip hop ever.

Little John is a top three to five hip hop personality ever. When you can be spoofed. Ever? Ever. When you can be spoofed by a comedian named Dave Chappelle. When you can, when you have such a. character about you that you can be spoofed

and everybody know who you're spoofing you are one of the top three to five hip-hop personalities ever. There's only a few. Do you feel like... Tupac. Tupac. Little John. Little Wayne. Snoop.

Snoop. Give me another one. Buster rhymes. To a certain extent. Busted. DMX. Oh, yeah. That's my five. Would you do what? I don't have bust up there.

DmX. Little John, Tupac, Little Wayne, and Snoop. And Snoop is kind of, because there's really only one Snoop. But DMX, Little John, you ain't never in your life even met people like that. Do you think, you know how people would be like there's no more rap, well, superstars in general, but especially no more hip-hop rap superstars? You feel like it's because people's personalities aren't, like those were personalities, but they were really just, like Lil Wayne really just Lil Wayne and he does all his little things.

And DMX is really like DMX. He really walked around with the dogs. Buster Rhymes is really on some like one-percenter next level. Like, you know, like. One-percent of. Yeah, he talks about a lot of the- 5%-percent. I know it was a percentage of something.

That's fine. They're going to be mad about that. I'm going to wake up and they're going to say. Then I'm like, one-person. She's like, journalist. She don't even know her percentages. Like, yeah, I fell math. No, that's different.

Five a few. You talk about the gods in the earth. I know. It was a joke. I mean, you made it a joke. Okay. But anyway, do you think that that's why, though? That's why we don't have the superstars because they're not naturally these big characters. I don't think it's that. I think that what celebrity was just isn't anymore.

Like, celebrity used to really mean something. Like back in the day, I was born in 1978. So the 80s and 90s, like, you know, having some sort of celebrity, like you actually had to have an incredible talent, you know. and usually the more talented you were, the most more celebrity you had. Denzel Washington was just, you know? So it's like, I think that the way, the barrier of entry to get into, I guess,

celebrity them is the bar is fucking low as shit. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying it's the shit on anybody, but you just saw people going crazy over Meatball. Meabre don't sing. You know, meepa don't dance. You know, people don't drop 40 a game. But you know why people love me, Ball, because they feel like this is my home girl from over there around the way in Philly.

And so how many people do they feel like that about in 2025 because of social media? Like, anybody can, you know, become a so-called celebrity in 2025. So if everybody's a celebrity, what is celebrity? Yeah, but celebrity's different than superstar. Like, I still think that superstar. Drake is a superstar. Kendrick is a superstar. Drake moves to, right.

I agree with you, but I think Drake moves a little bit too. regular. He's still a superstar, but I think he walked down the street. But also Drake and Kendrick, I don't even count them because Drake and Kendrick didn't come up in this era. Yeah, they're different. Yeah, they think a little bit. I feel like they, that, I don't even know what generation you would call them, but that might have been the last wave of like that big of a. They were before screaming. Yeah. Like they still had to sell physical copies. Like when Drake's first album came out, Kendrick first album came out, they still had to sell fucking CDs and shit like that. You know what I mean? I, I own Drake and Kendrick's CDs.

Would you put Travis Scott he's the same time as them? No. I feel like he's a little younger. Travis is definitely after them. But he's a big Nate, though. He can't walk down the street. Yeah. But Travis has an air of mystery about him.

Yes, he does. He's really good at it, too. Like, Travis, I'm sitting and thinking, and maybe this is just me being in a bubble. The only Travis Scott interview I can remember seeing is the one I did one. What other Travis Scott interview says he sat down and actually talked to somebody for a long period of time? You may have a point. That was after all the stuff in Houston.

Yeah. Yeah. I sat down with Travis Scott after Astro World. It's like, when have you seen Travis do stuff like that? So to me, that's what creates an air of mystery about you. Like, I just don't think there's no air of mystery about anybody anymore. Plus, it's just too easy to be somebody. Plus, everybody think they somebody. That's true. You know what I'm saying? You got 5,000 followers, 10,000 followers, 3,000 followers, you think that you lit. And in your world, you probably are. On your algorithm, you probably are. He's done very sporadic stuff, but it's all big stuff. So, like, he did some of the late night shows, like a year ago. He did GQ a year ago. Then your interview is the first one that comes up.

Yep, y'all, like, 2.6 million. Tonight show, GQ, yeah. So he's very sporadic and it's all big names. But I guess then last thing on this would be, so if you coming up in this and you want to, like, you aspire to get to a point of, like, that type. It's not even you want that type of celebrity, but you see where, like, Denzel Washington is so good that he has. legacy from his career.

A lot of the fast stuff, there's no legacy. You just lit, you make what you can off of it and you figure things out. How do you get to that point trying to come up in this time period? That's one of my favorite Bruce Lee quotes. Hold on. I'm going to tell you right now. I actually posted this today when we posted about Breakfast Club being number one in New York again.

I think streamers are probably today's superstars. Hold on. Yeah, but I think even that is... Always remember long-term consistency Trump's short-term intensity. Yeah. That's Bruce Lee. Long-term consistency

trumps short-term intensity. That's why you hear people like we had Sierra on Breakfast Club this week in Sierra was like, y'all didn't see so many people come and go. Yeah. Imagine how Denzel feel. Hmm.

Imagine how Jay-Z feel. You know what I'm saying? Like they got to see so many people come and go, but I've been consistently mean all this time. I think it's so funny when I watch these memes and they always be like, it's a meme that goes around and says, Jay-Z was never the hottest artist in a year or some shit.

Like, they're like DMX was hotter than him, and this person was hotter than him, which is not true, right? Hard Knock Life, it was all about Jay. DMX did have a great year that year. But my point is, do you want that one or two hot years or do you want to have this super long career that Jay-Z's had since 1996 where you just keep seeing him do this. Regardless how you feel about his music,

you might like reasonable doubt better than 4-44. But he just keeps doing like this in every way and diversifying his portfolio in every way. That's what I look at. I look at the longevity of things. I look at people who've been, you know, consistent for a long time. That's why I went, you know, I never look at ratings numbers. But when I think about Breakfast Club and we're going into our 15th year

And we, you know, number one in all of these different demos, not just in New York, by the way, all around the country. That shit is dope. Yeah. Because we've been doing it 15 years. Like, longest running hip-hop morning show, nationally syndicated hip-hop morning show, ever at this point. So, you know, thank you to the Lauren Larosis and the Jesselariuses.

And the scars and the lives. Listen, everything counts. It does. Everything works. That was another moment, too, when I realized I was like, okay, shit is like different now. Like people care. Because I'd never been the story like ever in my life.

And I was, I remember that weekend I went out somewhere. I went the girls of karaoke actually that week. And I saw Jim Jones. And I had called him a couple times. I always called him for like comments and quotes on stories. And he literally came up to me and was like, how does it feel to be on the other side? And I was like, damn. Like, I get it now.

Good fucking question. Yeah. That's why Jim should. I'm glad Jim got a podcast now. That's a good fucking thing. Yeah. I was like, wow. I didn't think about it like that, but I get it because it was just like you can't even say something without somebody taking it and making it like a TikTok, a YouTube video, or this or that.

You can't even look. Even now, still, like, we're good. But like, me and Jesse even blink the wrong way, people are like, is it happening again? I'm like, yo, this is crazy. Y'all care that. But it's different when you're not used to all of that. Like, you thought, I thought I was doing a little one too because it's like, okay, my TMZLA is the number one market. then I got here with y'all

and then when that happened I was like holy shit like I went and got a second phone because so many people were contacting me after that I was like this is why you got a second phone I wanted to- You nigga low

Yeah You know Why do you want him I mean You nigga low Honestly I might not invite you to the wedding What you mean Because you can't ruin my wedding day With this bullshit

I'm only going to ruin it If it's not the person I saw you tongue kiss Oh maybe it's him How long you've been together? So you're doing too much now. What you mean? Dolly said, don't do too much. I'm telling you.

That man don't want to be a secret. That man tired of being a secret. That's what I'm saying. You're saying that's going to be your husband. We're in a peaceful, blissful place, and I'm going to keep it that way. That was a good question by Jim because that question will change your approach to everything. You know, a lot of people would like to say like, oh, you know, Shawlamee, PC, God, blah, blah, blah. It's not that. It's just that, you know, when you on the outside looking in,

you think you, though. But then when you're on the inside and not only do you get to meet people and, like you said, you become the story, you just realize that most of this shit is all bullshit. Oh, my God. Like, most of this shit that is being said about people or what you think you know about people is just complete bullshit. And, you know, you let people run with certain narratives and you also get to a point where you don't even care to correct them, especially when you're successful. I had got there, though, before that a little bit because being around y'all, like, you and envy people love to talk about y'all,

like, literally. And I meet people when I be out in New York, they're like, oh, I used to do this with them and this. Or people would call me and be like, I don't like you and Charlotte-Maine's relationship. He don't do this with women, and he don't do that. And I just would let them go. And I'm like, that's crazy because, like, he's literally like,

I got my contract because you were pushing for me. I got the park. Like, it was so much happening. And I'm like, it's so crazy because no matter what I say, people are going to still feel how they feel about you. People going to still feel how they feel about when Envy was going through all his stuff, people was, like, calling me. And I'm like, I used to go places and be like, don't ask me about envy. You don't know him, don't ask me about him because he's one of the sweetest people I know. And the things that are saying, no matter what I say, y'all going to feel like that.

So when I saw that, I'm like, intention matters and I want to try and focus on intention. Sometimes, you know, the Rai Rai and me gets a little bit beyond it. What do I tell you every day? You yell a lot. I do, but I tell her every day, stop giving a fuck. Stop giving a fuck. You cannot give a fuck. You truly, honestly, cannot give a fuck.

And here's the thing, can't nobody tell me about me? So it's like any narrative that's out there, I don't give a fuck because I know the truth. I don't care about convincing anybody else of anything. I know, God knows, the universe knows. So you wonder why I'm so blessed? That's the reason why. Well, you'd be thinking you built Teflon down until the shots come. And then you got to be like, oh, okay.

I didn't say don't be aware of the shots. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But remember what? Know that you got on Teflon. Because your Teflon is that divine protection from God. Don't tell me that you got faith and that you're a friend person, but then you worried about what somebody saying about you on the motherfucking ending.

But that's why I'm, you know, that's why part of my fast right now is because I feel like things are elevating. And I don't know what is happening where it's going. but I feel like I need to like re-armor up. I need to like polish the teflin. And it was getting a little noisy. I was allowing a lot of noise in. I need a little bit more clarity. So I was like, you know what?

I'm through this 30 days once I leave PR because something is happening because I'm like off a little bit. Like I'm misstepping. I'm second guessing myself. Like, because you listening to these motherfuckers too much. You'll be yelling too. I yell from a place of love though. But I think it's just, I don't yell.

I don't make it seem like I'm yelling at y'all. You, oh, you don't know you yelling. You be you talking. Does he not ever talk to me? Like, yo, why he's so laughing? He's old. He don't know he's doing it. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, I know. Yeah. But yes. It all comes from a place of love. I'm like, here's the thing. When we're in breakfast club studio, it's literally like being on the court. You're on a basketball court. You're on a football field.

Let's go, Lo! Let's go, Jet. What the fuck are you doing? Pick that shit up. Like, that's how I'm coming. Yeah. Like, I was watching the kids. Cowboy documentary on Netflix.

Michael Irvin is what you want on them motherfucking sidelines. From the time he played in the Miami Hurricanes to the time he played with the Cowboys, that's why him and Jimmy Johnson got along because they had this same personality. Jimmy Johnson wouldn't let them niggas eat on the plane because they had such a bad game. Y'all can't eat.

I'm hungry. I wouldn't do that. But I'm just simply saying, like, that is the level of intensity you have to have. Another thing I always tell, y'all, this thing your social media. You can't just do anything. The stakes are too high here. And I'm not going to put you in a position

to where you motherfucking, you know, getting some crazy-ass lawsuit. That's what the... I'm glad you pulled that up. But yeah, last thing I will say is it's the sense of responsibility, too, that I'm starting to feel, that I never had to feel because at TMZ it's just like you work and you go home. Yeah, and then that's another thing too. I'm used to being like, shoot, one day you could just come in here and say, Lauren, we'll figure this out without you.

dip. Y'all really are like, I mean, life happens, whatever, but y'all are really like, no, we're invested, we want to grow, we want to lock. That's a, you, I'm not, you're not used to that entertainment. Because the breakfast club is a entity that is fueled by personality. Yeah. So that's why. So it's like if we bring new personalities into the mix, which was always the vision for the breakfast club, that's why it's called the club, you want to bring in, you know, new people that can, you know, thrive on this platform, you're invested in that personality. So it's not like, if I bring this person here, this person,

like you said, now you become part of like this extended family and people give a fuck about what's going on in your life. That's why, man, salute to Wendy Williams. Wendy Williams gave me the best piece of advice ever, and I rely on that shit all the time. Wendy Williams says, you can't rely on guests. She said this shit 20 years ago. You can't rely on guests.

people got to tune into the radio for you. They got to give a fuck about what you think about things and what's your opinion about things. You got to be able to create news with who you are. And I always think about that. So investing in personalities is the ultimate thing to do in 2025. Because how many times are you going to interview Beyonce? I've never interviewed Beyonce.

How many times are you going to interview Drake? I've never interviewed Drake. He would never. How many times you're going to interview Rihanna? I've never interviewed Rihanna. How many times you're going to interview a little Wayne? I've never interviewed a little Wayne. Do you understand what I'm saying? Wayne was on. Never. I've never interviewed any of these people. So people have to give a fuck about you. And you realize they give a fuck about you when Jess O'Larias puts her scarf on and goes crazy. No, I really did. You've been guest hosting on breakfast club. Jess is on

maternity leaving you there and everybody talking about, oh, that's Lauren LaRosa or, you know, NB got some shit going on. I got some shit going on. Like, that's when you know there. When Angela Yee left, like that, like, man, I'm not going to, listen, all of this will come out in the Breakfast Club documentary one day. But trust and believe, when you, when you're sitting around in your house and you see a tweet that says the Breakfast Club, as you know it, is officially over. I remember where I wasn't how I felt when I saw that too. Yeah. I literally sitting at my desk and I stood up in a newsroom and was like, Angela Yeh is leaving the breakfast club. Only the black people really care.

But it was a thing. And then when it started trending so big, then they were like, Lauren, wait, what? So explain to us what's happening. And I, to be honest, I thought that it was going to be a whole big public like y'all were about to be like this at it. Y'all, it was like so,

it so wasn't what I thought it was. But I think that's why people brought into it too because they thought it was so much controversy and like people love that as well. That shit went out at 9 o'clock on a Thursday night and everybody just walked away from their phone. How much did your phone blow up, though? He went crazy.

Yeah. That's what I mean. Because I'm like, and I'm on the inside, I'm like, yo, I know y'all phone went crazy because we was all like, what's happening? But you see, he didn't get a second phone because he got one wife. Yeah, right. That's a good fucking one woman. When I walked in here, you heard so nice and I thought you, I thought I had an ally in the room.

You do, of course. But he's good at turning off the noise and being like, it's me, time. I'm going to put my feet in the grass. I can't afford to do that. that yet. So I need to be able to be like, this is the work phone. It's my mom's birthday weekend. I also have this, but like, I got to put this away a little bit. Why am I listening to people who do less than me? Like, and that's the thing that pisses me off the most is I'm not taking the opinion of somebody who does less than me or who's doing less than me.

And I'm also not listening to the opinion of somebody who I know they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. That's why I tap into everything. I listen to everything. I'm, I'm aware of everything and acknowledge nothing. And I'll listen to people. And I'm like, that motherfucker don't even know what he's talking about. So why do I even care? Like, they have no idea what they're talking about. Like, little small things. Like, it's whatever, man.

Paul Piss says hardworking and ambitious men should leave pretty girls alone and get a strong five or six instead. God damn, let's hear it. Men who stand up, men, who go out there and put your elbow into making a woman make sure she's straight. and hard working and respectable, chest up, chin, out men. And you really want to grind, you really got ambition? And leave these little pretty girls alone, bro.

They don't put their elbow in it. I'm going to keep it 100. Over there looking at, oh, she's bad. Oh, look at her Instagram. Oh, she's a nine. She'll get you a five or a six. We're going to put some elbow into it. and gonna be down for you on some 100.

You know what I'm saying? They're gonna look at you like, why I'm with her. Don't worry about why I'm with her because she's gonna do everything you ain't doing. 100%. That's the new way we should be on, fellas. Like, man, forget all that how you look

when you with your arm around her. No, she ain't got no substance to her. All you men who stand up, man. First of all. I'm gonna let y'all cut cake for him. What man is, looks to their woman and says, got me a strong five or six.

I know, yeah, that's great. No, y'all be knowing. Who thinks their woman is a strong five or six? Even if, I don't know, even if that's the case, nobody thinks that. That's a 10 to you. No, no, no. I'm on my dream shit, shoddy she a 10, a 10.

The mature situation is different. A lot of men is out here just settling because they think it's comfortable and they know them girls, is not giving what they should be, and they're not what they want. What man is saying? Settling.

Men do it. No, man, now you're settling. They do. Yes, they do. No, they don't. They're not. I have a, yes, they do. Explain to me what settling is.

Settling is, she might, she might not be pleasing you in a lot of the ways that you want to be pleased, but she stay at home. You don't got worried about her with no other men because you're the center of her world. She, that's basically, she's the center of your world. Women's, I hear women say that about the stay-at-home thing. What's wrong with being? in the CEO of the house. I don't mean stay-at-home mom. I mean, like,

she's not like a baddie, baddy shot o'clock. She out in the club. She literally does nothing but cater to you most of the time because she just hype to be with someone like you. What if she don't like to go out?

It's not because she don't like to go out. You didn't hear me. I said she's just excited about her being. That's all she got. So she's there with you. And she looked and you don't have a lot of men trailing behind her. So you don't got to worry about

who's in the DM, who's whatever, because she might get like a little bit, oh, you look nice to that at work, but that's about it. Being out, first of all, if you're doing it right, your woman ain't got to work,

okay? That's number one. If you're doing it right, you know, your woman is an entrepreneur because you're doing what you need to be doing. So, you know,

she's able to not only invest in herself, she can invest in our family, and she can do whatever the fuck she wants. That's the freedom you should be providing for your woman. But that's a whole other thing. Now, I'm not knocking, I'm not knocking anybody

who's, you know, got a working class. Men don't know, a lot of men don't even know how to set up a household to empower women that way. And that's a whole different conversation. And that's why when I hear stuff like this, this fisses me off because it doesn't matter if a woman's a five, six, or a ten. A lot of what women reciprocate in different situations is what they're receiving. And it might be some of what they dealt with before you, but a man can get whatever woman, baddy, Instagram baddy or not to do what it is that you think you need to make you feel fulfilled. But the woman has to feel

away. He has to feel complete insecure. Lauren is absolutely right. You can get any woman to do what it is you want her to do if she's feeling you. That's the whole point of making a woman feel loved and appreciated and valued. Whatever woman you would, you pour her into them and if they feel safe and they feel secure, they're going to do all that shit, Paul Pierce is saying. That's what I'm saying. To me, when men say stuff like this, it screams insecurity.

It screams you need someone who is okay with you. telling them that they might not be your actual standard, but you're just there, and they're fine with that. And there are women who take that. That's true. I agree with you, but there are certain women out there that they just want from guys, or they put out the image that, like, hey, I just want a guy that pays for this. And they just want to sit home and be pretty and travel.

And there's tricks for that. And there are also men who are okay with women that are. So I think that's what, I think that's what he's talking about. He's like, don't get one of those. get you, you know, a woman who's about something. But are all those women who want men to take care of them in that way? Are they all five or six? I mean, are they all tens or nine, nine and two Instagram baddies?

A lot of them. Who gives them? They inspired to be. Where does this number thing come from? Don't y'all think this number thing is subjective? Like, there's women that, there's women. Huh? Sorry.

I'm 90s rom-com fine. That's what I am. We don't, when you start, when you think of a number with me, think 90s, nigga. Okay. I'm talking about 90s rom-com. fine, okay? Every fine ballhead nigger from the 90s test that. Think of that. Think Morris Chestnut, okay? Matter of fact, that's all you think. Me and Morris Chestnut. That's it. Baby, I met that man, and I would never think you could never. That's only because you've seen me

without a haircut one too many times. Every time you see him, he's freshly shaving. Let Morris step out without a fresh shave. You'd be like, oh, okay. I'd be like, oh, he rugged. All I'm saying is the number of shit, The number shit is subjective. There's women out here that people think of tens that I'm like, eh. Like when everybody be on their lights, like I like lights and girls with such and such color eyes,

man, they look like pit bulls to me. People still be on that? Yes, I like melanchol. I like melanchol. I like everybody got different types. Who's the finest girl in Hollywood do you? And when I say Hollywood, I mean music industry, acting, everything.

Just like it's celebrity world. I mean, it always used to be between J-Lo and Beyonce. You see what I'm saying? You see that? Never hit a Kelly Rowland or like a... That's the one! But you said the top for my personal foot.

I'm half Puerto Rican, I'm half black. I wish I asked you your top five then before I mentioned Kelly Rolling, because now you're going to try throwing some brown skin women just because you don't want to be doing that. We would have been like Iggy and Zelia. And by the way, Kelly is the one. Salute to my guy to him. All respect.

I always call Kelly the Godiva chocolate goddess. She's the one. to me. That's my personal opinion. And Beyonce is mine. Ain't the wrong way did we know. What's wrong with Beyonce? Why is always a lot? Come on. No, but

this is the trouble. You're both my guy's wives so I'm not even going to have this guy to say. Colorism? Y'all got to stop this. No, in the black community. I'm just saying, no. That is a color. Yes, it is. I just hit me with that. The women that I think are extremely beautiful aren't

the industry's standard We just saw Kelly Rowland. I was watching the clip the other day when she was talking about colorism and how, you know, what was it? They called the dark skin like Kelly Rowland or something. Yeah, whatever that lyric is. I'll send, I don't know you number. You probably can find it.

But if you Googled it or come on, like, put up Kelly Rollins. It was an interview she did with BBC. So if you type in BBC Kelly Rowland, it was from a few years ago. Because when I'm like, I think of Kelly Rowland, Tika Sumter. Oh, Tijuana. You know, Janelle Monet. Like, Danielle Monet literally is like, she floats. Like her skin is flawless.

She glows. But like Lauren, she got hair under her own. So people don't really pay attention to her beauty. Do you remember the first time you heard the thing that you are referring to as colorism? The first time I had a little boo friend. Actually, his grandmother compared me to the color of a paper bag and said that I was too chocolate. to dark chocolate for him and he couldn't date me

and I said what the hell I literally was like what does that mean and I came home and I talked to my mama T about it and she said it's a definition of colorism and I was like you know what I mean it was like that moment it affected me in a way where I was just

always uncertain of how I looked it started to define what was to me. Okay. In the entertainment business, it manifested itself in constant comparisons. When it came to like my skin color, I was hearing everything left and right. Well, you know, she's darker, or she's the darkest one in the group, or she's a really chocolate one.

I would always hear that. Was there ever a time where you thought maybe I should try a bleaching cream? I never actually thought to myself I want to do a bleaching cream as much as it was. I just want to be Mariah's shade because that was who I you know, I was who I was looking up to. She was gorgeous. Gorgeous.

You're dancing around and feels with doda, doda, do. No disrespect. Kelly looked way better than Mariah Carey. I was like, life looks beautiful. We'd all do respect. See? She does.

I agree with that. That's crazy. When did she do this? I just started this other day. I looked because when you sent it to me, it was a few years ago. Oh, three years ago. You know, and listen, man, like I said,

everything she's saying, I'm sure is true. I'm 100% positive is true. But that ain't my world. Because Kelly and Mariah Carey, God bless Mariah Carey. So she's her, all respect, do. It ain't even close to me. Personal. I agree.

And then when I'm at home, she said the thing about the boyfriend who, you know. Paper bag test. Yeah, I'm like, what the hell he? I'm not exact opposite. Sometimes, man, I'm laying there and I look at my wife and all that melanchet. And I'm like, why would you ever bring a beige pit bull into this house? Why you ought to do all that? Yes, because my mom is like a hell.

It don't expect to a white woman, but that's even crazy. Yeah, I mean, I love who you love people. Love who you love. I also am not a person that I couldn't. I did go on one date with a white man before. I am totally against it. It was one date, and he tried to kiss me. He was breathing so hard, and I was like, this is not for me.

First of all, you've been a sellout. You love Travis Kelsey. I thought Travis Kelsey was cute. I thought he was cute. I wouldn't date a white man, though. And like, not seriously, like, trying to start my life with the person. The other day on the radio, she bought up the 44 most powerful people in podcasting, just to talk about traffic than Jason.

No, just to talk about Taylor Swift. Just to talk about, whatever. You know what I'm saying? Just talk about Taylor Swift. But anyway, I was, I think that's crazy that she, it's like all dark skin and brown skin girls have this, like, thing, like that moment where you thought about, like, dang, okay, I'm brown skin. Because you got silly motherfuckers saying that they're five and sixes. There's a standard of beauty that this.

this bullshit-ass world and industry has had for so long that looks at people like her and they're like, eh, to me, it's the, when I say it's the exact opposite, it's the exact motherfucking opposite. That's what I think is fired at me and Jess are on Breakfast Club. Me too. I told her this one time. I'm like, yo, when have you ever seen two brown skin, like real black girls in mainstream media? Breakfast Club is mainstream media. I say that all the time. I think that's so fired.

It's so good to have all this motherfucking melanin in this room. I'm serious. The envy balances us out. And then you call envy a waffle color in Negro. Well, listen, I believe in color. But I believe in it the other way. Why? Because of the fact that dark-skinned people have been getting shit for so long.

So yes, we need to give it back to some of the waffle color people. And you know what? Just like white people, as soon as you start to experience what you've given people for so long, now you want to stop. Now you're like, okay, y'all going too far with it. You know, now when the rabbit got the gun, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I cheered when Nino Brown stabbed that pretty motherfucker from the bank, Christopher Williams in the hand on New Jack City. See, like you said, pretty motherfucker. He cheered.

And he stabbed him in the hand, he choked him, and he said, I never liked you anyway, you pretty motherfucker. Yeah. Nino! Huh? It's your responsibility. Nino! I never liked you anyway. Pretty motherfucker.

There's only two light-skinned men that I've ever really, like, really vibe with. My boy, DJ Frosty and DJ N. DJ Frost, oh, from Jersey? No, no, Frosty's from Star-K-Kiniland. That's my guy. That's my brother, too. But Envy's my brother, too. They're the only two light-skinned dudes I really fuck with.

But I'm going to tell you something. They are the epitomey of light-skinned. Every single... N-Vie is for lights. What? Yeah. Every single stereotype you could think of the light-skinned men. Them to embody you.

He's also the stereotype for Queens too. Like matches head to toe. Like Super Queens, get the money, dollar dollar bill. Outfit match the car. Oh, you're from Queen? Oh, that's why. And me and Frosty are so sensitive. I remember back in the day, we used to make mixtapes out of Frost.

Y'all salute the Frost. I love Frost. We used to make mixtapes out of Frosty House, man. Nika, you're sensitive. No, I'm not. Yes, you are. I'm sensitive on. I'm not sensitive.

I'm not. I'm not. Like, are you really not? Really going to let him... I'm serious. Y'all think I'm sensitive? I think you are sensitive. I think you're...

It's like when you're passionate about... You're sensitive about the people and the things that you love. I'm passionate. Yeah, so when you're passionate about things, you are sensitive about them. I want to feel. Yes. There's nothing wrong with that. You're very much like, feel the love, feel the earth.

That's because that took a lot of therapy. I mean, I'm in natural cancer, so I feel that way anyway. But therapy really brought that out of me. And you make quite an envy for being born that way. But I'm not sensitive. sensitive. I'm not sensitive. I'm passionate. And I'm not going to sit around and complain too much about anything. I'm going to go figure it out. Or I'm going to get you.

Okay. But see, back, feeling like you need to get somebody is. That's not sensitive. Yeah, that's letting you get to you. Because you shouldn't have played with me. That's being said. I mean, I don't play. Don't play with you. That's why I be telling people, I'm a reform piece of shit who's done a lot of therapy

to try to do better. So don't make me motherfucking relapse. Okay. That's the, that's the thing. That's the, that's the only thing I'd be trying to talk. According to Donald Trump, you still a sleeves bag. A fucking racist sleeve bag. Yeah. Okay? And I agreed with the sleeves bag part.

Racist? No. Sleas bag, I can understand why he said that. Damn. Damn. Steve and A. Smith said a 7. 10 is a better long-term investment? I know he's not talking because it's a lot of inches before that hair line started.

Wow. God, damn. I hope he didn't say that. And I like that. Oh, man, alive, that would disagree with what I'm about to say. You'll want a strong 7. Let me tell you why. Why?

Ten, too much maintenance. Too much because she knows she found. And you're expendable. She could take you a leave. A nine. That's a problem too. Because you got enough people telling her she's a ten so half of them acting that way.

And by the way, the ones that ain't acting that way still require more from you than what others might. And so you got to be up on your game. That's problematic. it. Hey, that's ideal. Because that's really, really good looking. She got it going on. But at the same time, there's a level of independence that comes with it, which is never a bad thing.

Until she's so independent that she's making you. I need to ask a question. I want, hold on, wait. Because I've been giving independent. I'm not trying to give it. I don't want to be independent. Take care of me. I want to shut up and sit back and just be cute. Why? Because I've been working very hard for a very long time, okay? The be cute part is going to be hard for you.

Let me say, if you are a woman, because dating Stephen A. Smith right now are dating Paul Piss. Your vagina has been dry since these comments. Because you like, so that's what you think of me? You think I'm a five? You think I'm a six? You think I'm a seven? You think I'm a seven? You think I'm a seven? You're just with me because I'm her long-term investment that just, what did they say? Do what I say? Or whatever the, I'm just saying, if I'm a woman that's dating them

or a woman that dates them in the future, am I not thinking about these comments? You are, because every woman, I don't care if you might deem her a five in her mind when she gets herself together and she's dressed up in a little bit. She felt like she's a 10. Like, I feel like I'm a 10 every day. This feels like Dame Dash,

when Dame Dash came on Breakfast Club and was basically like you were, you, you're a, sucky if you got a boss. Because if I always felt like, well, damn, if I was one of his employees, I'll be like, damn, that's the way you look at me. This is what this feels like. So if I'm a woman that dates Paul Pizz and Stephen A. Smith, I'm like, what that's how the fuck you see me? You know what's crazy is men, men say things that they don't want to hear back. Because when we as women say, we would rather date a man that loves us more than we love them or a man that is ugly or Smedium ugly or whatever, y'all get upset. Like, but when y'all say

stuff like this, we just supposed to be like, you know what? Maybe I am a five, baby. It's okay. Like, no, who wants to feel like you're lesser than what someone's actual standard is? If I'm with you, I want to feel like I'm your world because you might. Shouldn't it go both ways? Because I'll be saying, I'll get you a- You said you should go both ways. But shouldn't it be both ways? Because women do say that you should get a medium ugly or medium pretty man or whatever. They do say that. But that, you know what? You don't be saying nothing? A lot of that is generational.

But we get that. If we were sucking the dick, we would feel away. But do it get some I can be a medium, ugly nigger, and you want this pretty girl want to suck my dick, do your thing. I'd be looking at my man and I just be like, you are so fine. Is he a lineman? Like, you try to be funny? No, I thought maybe he'd like a football player or something. I don't know. No.

Did he used to play football? He used to play at sports. It wasn't that, though. It wasn't that. He didn't play football. He didn't play football. He played basketball. Oh, you played basketball?

Yeah. They're haters. We got any more bills? Yes, we did. Let's pay some bills, man. I want to salute to my guy, Vlad TV, man. I did Vlad this week. I guess it should be out by now.

I haven't been on Vlad in a couple of years. You know, Vlad is my man. Vlad comes on Breakfast Club. He's been on Brewing of his. Plus, I know Vlad for, I know Vlad since 2003. Vlad used to put me on his mixtapes, his beef DVD CD mixtapes back in the day, because the interviews I was doing in South Carolina.

So he used to put me on there. So me and Vlad got a... It might have been one of the first time I've seen your face. I used to hear you on Wendy, but I think that was the first time I saw you. That was before Wendy. Oh, really?

Also. Yeah, this is when I was doing radio in South Carolina. Yeah. It was like the Domino face. Yeah, shut up. That's when... That was one of my... That was back in South Carolina.

That was one of my first time, like getting real national exposure. Because, you know, the internet I just started back then. So we used to... I used to put... It did, man. No, that's sound. Real yourself.

I am bad. The internet just started. The internet just started is insane. It did. I did not know I know somebody who was there when the internet started. I was listening. I'm going to tell my niece that she's going to think I'm old. There's certain people in this culture who were around and utilizing the internet.

I remember when there was only two hip-hop site. What was there? Allhipop.com and S.O.H. Oh, shout out to that's Chuck and Grouchie. Chuck and Grouchy. Yes. Delaware. They were the only two hip-hop sites.

And, like, Il-Cid's rumor section was a big deal. So I had a couple of interviews that I got mentioned on Il-Ceed's rumor section. And then I had a couple of interviews that actually got featured in the news section of all-hip-hop. I remember it was a Bunby interview where Bunby announced that Pimsy, he announced Pimpsey's release it. And all-hip-hop ran that as a story. And that's actually how Wendy even started to notice me, because Wendy was doing syndicated radio, and she had met me when she came down. But when all hip hop used to start, like, posting my interviews, especially the more, like, volatile ones, she would hear them and would shout me out on her show. So, yeah, shout out to Vlad, man.

Me and Vlad go way back. Let's do some asking idiots. Let's do some asking idiots. We got any, we solicited for some for Big L.L. Kool-Bay. Oh, God. Ooh, DJ Mike Torch underscore says, Sharla, what has Lauren taught you in her time at the Breakfast Club?

That is a fantastic question. And I'm going to tell you why that's a fantastic question. It's a fantastic question because when you've been doing radio or any of this as long as I have, that is your biggest flex. I've always said that. I like to throw more assist then I do score points.

So as I'm teaching Lauren or Jess or Anila or, you know, who's ever in the space, I'm relearning a lot about how I teach. Because as you said, I might yell. You know what I'm saying? I'm not, I'm not yelling at Lauren. I'm passionate, so I'm yelling in the room. You know what I'm saying? I'm yelling in the room.

I was like, you, I was about to say I'm on my ditty shit. That wouldn't be right. I was just thinking that. I was just thinking that. And I'm like, let me not do that. No, you have to see what nitty. Yeah, yeah. Niggia, you don't hustle, you don't eat.

You don't hustle you don't eat, Nick. I mean, like, that's why she's at that trial someone. She'd be going through her dance. Like, no, please clarify that. It's a flea what the fuck. But no, that's, like, it's a passion, right? And so it's like, I'm learning how to teach. And it's also something with fatherhood, too,

because, you know, all your children are different. And I don't ever want to teach the way that I was taught. Because the way that I was taught wasn't necessarily the right way of teaching. Because my dad used to try to raise me out of fear and not love. So I always want them to know that I'm coming from a loving place and I see the greatness in you, right? And so I'm only porn. into you. I wouldn't waste my time pouring into somebody that I don't think could actually be

great. I'm pouring into you because I actually want you to be great. So if you ask me what the thing that I've learned the most is about how I have to learn how to teach in a way that what I'm saying is being received and to not, man, this is also something I'm thought about, to not do what other people did to me because it made me cold. Like the way the Wendy Williams of the world are like old program directors in South Carolina

who I'm not going to say their name because I said they name another day and they thought it was so good. Like shout out to my guy Ron White, C93 Jams, South Carolina. He was the person who put me in position. But no, I will say the name. Doing a thing, he was a terrible programmer.

You know what I'm saying? Like he was the way his method was. Like it was yelling, it was screaming, and it was, you know, punching doors and all types of stupid shit like that, right? So it's like, you don't want to be that. You know what I mean? Like, Wendy would straight up tell me

either do it the way I said to do it or get the fuck out the type of shit. Like, literally, I don't want that. So it's like I want them to learn on their own, but I also want to try to help them avoid a lot of the pitfalls and obstacles that may come up, you know, on this journey as well. So I'm just learning how to be a better,

teacher. Ed also just reminded myself that I still got to be a student as well. Because the way that they're coming up and the way that y'all are doing things is completely different. It's so different. This could go like this. I think about that all the time. It's like like this, it could all be like, you just like messed up so much. Yeah. And it's not, it's actually not even fair to you or fair to adjust because y'all don't get to learn the way that we get to learn. But also, y'all are. coming on a platform that's already huge. So fuck-ups that happen, NB ain't going to get to blame like that.

No. Charlemagne ain't going to get the blame like that. They're going to look for who the fall people are. They're going to point to the new individuals more so than anything. That's not fair. We got to fuck up a lot on the way coming up. Like, we didn't just wake up and become this breakfast club, you know, huge platform. I'm like we grew over the past 15 years.

And a lot of people have seen our fuck-ups along the way, but we were allowed to make mistakes. I feel like they don't give you all that grace. Hell no, especially me. People are still trying to figure out, well, what is it? What's the, why is she here? But it's pros and consular. Because a lot of people.

I'm trying to figure out about you too. What do you say, Alex? Not as pros and consulate, though, because, like, yes, people are looking for the skateboard, but at the same time, they're on such a big platform where if they perform well, you get like instant notoriety. Absolutely. Where a lot of people have been trying forever and never get a look.

That could be a bad thing too, though. Yeah. Because I put the weed in the motherfucking bag. That was a, that's a law that I lived by. You know, I learned that from the movie belly. Like, you know, when DMX and Nas was sitting around and the two young boys was like, yeah, we want to get money like y'all niggas, we want to be getting it like, y'all niggas. You want to be getting it like, y'all niggas drive the car driving, blah, blah, blah.

And DMX was like, man, shut the fuck I'm put the weed in the bag for a minute. there's, in a lot of ways, they're still going through there, put the weed in the bag phase. Because you can have all the success in other places. Jess has had super success as a comedian, right? She's a super successful comedian. Lauren has been super successful as seeing the news producer at TMZ. This is a whole new game.

This is fucking radio. It's so different. So you got to put the weed in the bag. You got to, you know, get right at this. Like, you're still a newcomer to this side of the game. Oh, I feel like, yo, and it's so different because being in a newsroom, have a lot of different things working. Like, you got producers that are, like, giving you, they're in your ear.

They're, like, everything is caught with y'all because radio is so real, so raw, so, like, in the moment, there's so many things that aren't caught. So when something happens, it's on you. Like, that's, that's so different for me. But that's the beauty of it. And I'm glad that's the other thing I'm learning, too. That was a great question, DJ Mike told you. The other thing I'm learning is I'm learning to appreciate radio.

Again, even though I know I love, I love radio. I'm a radio guy. I am a radio head. Radio has completely changed my life. There would be nothing else happening in my world if it wasn't for radio. There'd be no book publishing. There'd be no audio scripted company with Kevin Hart. There'd be no Black Effect podcast network.

There would be no, you know, real. I mean, I would probably still be doing mental health advocacy, but not to this level. Like there wouldn't be any of that without Breakfast Club. So to watch y'all go through this journey and see how, radio is turning y'all up. And that's why I ask you, I'm like, you were like, tell me, like, what, how different is being on, I'm asking right now, how different is being on Breakfast Club than being in another place?

I can't even put it into words, but say it's been, it literally changed my life. Like, like, it's, I underestimated the power of radio until I got on the breakfast club. And I understand that breakfast club is different because of how big the show is and the marketing and all of that. But even with breakfast. club and I was a fan of the show

if I got on the show, I don't think I really understood, but it meant an impact the way the people lock into you, the way, like, if you, I feel like if I do this the right way, I won't have to worry about anything I ever want to do. I can amplify and, like, really

build, like, here's something I could do, and my niece can be good, my kids, my kids, kids, and it's all because of the radio. In 2025, to me, I thought that was a joke. Like radio, right? Look at what Kiki and Zach and Tone are doing in Chicago.

They've been turning up so much in Chicago that now they're on Shade Room. You know what I'm saying? And like people are knowing them. Think about somebody like Kendra G. Kendra G was doing mornings on WGCI and at the same time doing her single lady show. Now she don't even do the radio anymore. Somebody literally texted me last week and was like, yo, I want to get this author on Kendra G's show in Chicago.

I'm like, Kenner G don't do that show no more. But that's what they remember. They remember her doing radio. And now she turned up, you know, doing her single lady show. I'm saying this so, man, radio still has so much. I look at the thing about letting in fucking L.A. on Power 106. Yep.

Like, come on, man. Yeah, I never thought about, I never thought that that was possible unless you were like you and envy and Angel Lee where y'all had already been doing it for generations prior to me. No, you can still turn up. Yeah, now I'm like, yo, people are crazy. Like, you got to have like one thing that drives everything. And the breakfast club is like, man, I literally can't put it into words. By the way, L.A. radio stations, y'all tripping.

DJ Head and Gina View should have been on somebody's show during the afternoon, on somebody station doing afternoon. You're bugging. Real 923, LA and Power 106 are nights or something. Like, you're bugging to not have DJ Head and Gina views on daily in L.A. You're bugging, okay? Shodong. Oscar B. Savage on him says,

how do you balance two guys at the same time, L.L. Kubei, asking for a friend L.O.L. L.O.L. Can we please put. this narrative to rest? I can't do it. I don't deal with multiple people anymore. I deal with one person. At a time.

One person at a time. One person. I have one person that I deal with and he's going to be my husband and you might not come to the wedding. You need to travel lightly. So you don't have two guys with you? No.

All right, well, back in the day. Back in the day, I mean, everybody just got, they played their roles. You know who to call for the fun. You know who to call for the funds. You know who to call. Like, it's just, you got different reasons you call them.

That was played. Wow. For real. Damn, yo, that was played. One for the fun and one for the fun.

But that was... I couldn't trust you. But I would... Why not? That was why... You know, when you, you know,

well, first I was single and I'd been in a relationship for a long time, so I had to take the time to figure some stuff out. But it made me appreciate everything that I have now. Like,

having everything just in one person and it actually been a person you're attracted to and you want to be around and you... I'm like, okay. Too niggalo. Yeah.

What else we got? I don't want to talk about that right now. Ooh, who's the best politician to never be president, excluding Bernie? The best politician to never be president, if you ask me in my lifetime, I would probably say Al Gore. I think Al Gore is the best politician to never be president,

even though he did win. They announced that he won, and then announced. that he didn't win because the ballots in Florida was fucked up. Who was the governor of Florida at the time?

Jed Bush and whose brother was Al Gore running against? Jed Bush. George W. Bush. So Florida decided the election

in the year 2000 and George W. Bush ended up becoming president. But I think Al Gore because Al Gore was talking about, I mean, number one, he came from, you know,

the Clinton administration. I already told you, I think when it comes to the economy in my lifetime, nobody's been better than Bill Clinton. And, you know, Al Gore would have came with that economic plan.

Plus, he was, you know, screaming the alarm, ringing the alarms on climate change way before, you know, people was really talking about that. So if you asked me who's the best politician to never be president excluding Bernie, I would probably say Al Gore. As a New York native, I would say Bloomberg. He used to get a lot of flack when he was mayor,

but when you look back at it now, like he actually did pretty good. Like, he did a pretty good job. And I think on like nationwide scale, he would have killed it. Interesting. Is Michelle Obama considered a politician? No. Oh, she's not. She's absolutely not. Ooh, underscore Zeke underscore 818 says, what does the podcast industry evolve into? Ooh, fantastic question. I mean, you're watching it in real time. The podcast industry is evolving into the multimedia industry. Like, when you look at podcasting, right,

started off as an audio platform. But, you know, now you got to have a video component. And, you know, if you look at what things like we're doing at the Black Effect, you know, I don't know if people know. But here in New York, we have something called Black Effect Weekends where we take, you know, some of the best moments, you know, from podcast and put them on the radio. That's something that I've been screaming at these radio stations need to be doing for like the last eight, nine years. I always felt like, you know, I grew up, man, with listening to Golden Girl in Philly doing overnight. listening to people like Cherry Martinez doing overnights, and they all had like a sensualness about them, like a sexiness about them on the radio.

And I'm like, well, nowadays, you could put decisions to decisions, Mandy and wheezy on. You could take clips from their podcast and put them on, you know, 12 or midnight, 2 in the morning. You could take Paul Mines podcast, put them on, you know, 12 to 2 in the morning. You know, I grew up listening to the throwback shows on Sunday. You could still have a throwback show now,

But how about why not add drink champs, you know, as well? Why you got the, you know, person playing the music. Also, the podcast industry is going to evolve into these people in the podcast space, you know, creating things like movies. Like Theo Vaughn is filming a movie right now. You understand what I'm saying, 85 soft show? They're about to do a couple of films, right? So it's like these people who have these built-in audiences. I was just talking to somebody about this.

This is an OG veteran. in the music industry, Tommy Motola. And Tommy Motola was saying how nobody has built-in audiences except for the personality. The podcast is like the person. Like they have built in. There's people that tune in the Brewing Idiots every week. There's people that tune in the 85-stop show every week.

Like when you look at somebody like Mel, look at what Mel Robbins has done this year. Mel Robbins sold 6 million copies of a book called The Let Them Theory. There's two things niggas hate, reading and accountability. So y'all don't understand how powerful books are. To sell six million copies of a book, not only is selling six million copies of a book crazy, it's game-changing.

People have to pick up that literature and read it. And to some people, that book becomes their world. It becomes what they live by. So to be a woman named Mel Robbins, and they just, gender has nothing to do with it, but to be a person to write a book that sells six million copies. Like, I see what my books do for people, and I ain't never sold no six million copies, especially not in no one book. Like, so the podcast industry is literally going to evolve into multimedia.

If you're doing your podcast right, it will evolve into you being able to do various things on a multimedia level. movies. It's going to be the new content for screaming platforms because everybody has all of these back catalogs of, you know, all of this video that we've been shooting. It's going to be books that people can publish. Me and Kev, we've been doing the audio scripted podcast thing. Matter of fact, you can go download one of our newest. Our newest release is Kingsland starring Winston Duke. It's on Audible right now. It tells the story of black people actually getting reparations in the community that we build because of that called Kingsland. But it's also a murder mystery as well. So go check that out. I mean, look at everything

that I'm doing. Everything that I'm doing with radio. When you ask me what is the podcast industry evolving to, I would answer it the same way how radio has evolved, at least in my career and all of these different things. What was the one before that? Oh, Mr. Derek Jr. you said how his working together helped you to grow. I kind of feel like we kind of answered that one already. I didn't answer mine though. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead, Lauren.

I'm sorry. I think the biggest thing recently that I've realized is being able to listen and take direction. I always thought I was great at that. And then I got into a new space where I'm used to being in control of things. And I can't control a lot with radio because it happens like this. And there are times where, like, we'll go back and forth. And I'd be like, he's, And I'm like, one of the things I don't want to have, and it's always things that are like, save a board, like, okay, I can reapply that later.

And I was telling myself the other day because Babe was like, you know, you'd be a little defensive sometime. And I was like, Sean may be telling me that. So maybe you're saying it and he's saying it. Maybe it's a thing. So I started, like, diving into that. So I learned that like. Oh, so you're difficult. Very.

I'm not difficult. I'm just. Not difficult. I'm not difficult. I'm not difficult. She doesn't have a dad. I don't know if it's the dad thing all the way. I don't think so all the way

because I think even like I know people with two parents in the house in the household that I would describe as defensive or what I think is defensive I think a lot of it is I've just had to figure out this space on my own my family nobody understands what I'm doing so I've always had to be very right about me

the decisions I make so when you come up against somebody like him who's challenging and questioning everything it's like yo I'm here because I know what I'm doing but at the same time I've had to learn I don't want to be the person that is like I know what I'm doing, I know what I'm doing.

Because I want to go to places where I don't know what I'm doing because I want to hit new heights. You know what I mean? So I've learned that sometimes I do need to sit back, relax, and just allow to be, I need to be taught. That's what I told her today. I'm like, yo, if somebody says shut the fuck up, that don't mean I'm not talking to you, person.

What I said is sometimes you need to learn to shut the fuck up. There's a difference between telling somebody. That's two different things. Sometimes you need to learn to shut the fuck up and saying, yo, Lauren, shut the fuck up. I'm not telling you to shut the fuck up. I'm just saying, Lauren, sometimes you can be a little defensive and you should be listening instead of talking about.

You just told me shut the fuck up. Like, you shut the fuck. But that's what you hear. That's not what I mean. But sometimes you need to shut the fuck up and just shake it in. I tell myself that all the time. You told me shut the F up. You told me hair in the bag.

You said you don't like brown skin women. I was quick. I mean, not that I like care in that way, but it's like I'd be rep for my sister. You did say bad Bobby look better than Kelly Rowling, which is crazy. Oh, that's crazy. Why would you ever do? I'm really beginning a judge.

No, stop it. I'm going to shut the fucking. No, you came at. Plagrin a little bit, but aside. CETG, that's a good one. What the heck the 13th? What the heck the 13th says CTG, what other radio personality name did you consider none? Because my name was Charlaman before radio.

Like, I was calling myself Charlamine in Monk's Corner South Carolina. Like, I used to rap. Wasn't it something Van Winkle? But that was my rap name. My rap name was Disney Van Winkled. I was what I'm saying? We always had nicknames already. Like we had Nickdesk.

Yo, Dizzy Van Winkle who watched the internet start is crazy. Like, honestly. He went to Winkle who watched the internet start. That is right. Kelle underscore

Hot Tye says, if there was one thing you could change about your personality, what would it be? Mines would be my ability to shrink. I think sometimes it's good to know I want to play your role, But sometimes I think I'm so good at being able to do that

that like I don't like, like you don't get certain things for me. And then after the fact, I'd be like, dang, I wish I kind of like didn't. I don't see that. I mean, it depends. If I'm comfortable or like it depends on what's happening. But I do notice that about myself like, yo, you so, and I think that that has probably comes from my household. Like, I'm used to being in the house and it's so much going on that.

I just have to like let it happen and figure it out on the back end, like, solve the problem. I don't have time to be a personality. And people care about what I think because life is real. Charlotte? I mean, I've thought I've thought about this so much. I mean, these are things that I talk about in therapy. I think for me it would probably be when I say fuck you, I say fuck you. And I can say fuck you like that.

And it can be somebody that I love dearly, somebody that, you know, I've been with me forever like family members like when I'm off you I'm off you in a real real real real way and sometimes it's warranted and sometimes it's not but I and I also

the reason I'm like that is because I want to be the adult that I needed as a child so bad and I want to be the person that I needed as a child so bad that when I love I love hard and I pour a lot into people immediately my wife tells me that all the time

That's why my wife is the way she is. Because my wife is the one that's Superguard, it walls up. We ain't fucking with none of these people. Who the fuck is this? Blah, blah, blah. Like, nah, don't bring these motherfuckers around me. I don't want to be able to like that.

And Dolly's the same way like that. So that's why I'm glad I got those two pillars because both of them keep me protected from a lot of bullshit because I would be the person that's like, yeah, come on in, come on in, come on in. And because I love so hard And because I know my intentions are pure

and because I know I want to really help all of us win if you do anything to disrupt that, if you do anything to try to fuck me over or fuck over somebody I love, I'm off you. Yeah. I'm off you.

I don't know if that's a good trade or not. I don't know. I don't know. What else we got? Let's do two more. I don't talk about that. I don't have anything. What else?

What else? Anything else? That was cool. Give me some Lauren stuff, man. That was it. They don't have that much for Lauren. They didn't have much for Bigelow. They like me.

They let me alone. I do want to say one more thing before we get out of here, man. Salute to everybody in the podcast industry right now. What I would really like to see people in the podcast industry do, and I really mean this, is just learn more about the actual podcasting business and learn more about the world of podcasting. Because one thing that I saw this week when I was watching people

discussing like the top 44 most powerful people in podcast and I realized like damn there's a lot of people in the space who don't even really understand the space that they're in. You know? And when you look at a list

of the top 44 most powerful people in podcasting and you say things like I don't even know who this person is I don't know who that person is. Like if you say things I don't know who Jay Shetty is. That's great. You understand what I'm saying?

Like how you don't know Jay Shetty and you're in a podcast space? Jay Shetty is massive. But that's because anybody can buy a podcast. set up. That's true. But you should know about the industry, right?

Yes. People don't take the time to learn that. They just... The podcast industry is not that old. It's not like hip hop where you got to go all the way back

and learn every artist night. Like, it's still relatively new. And a lot of people that are having like this real success in the podcast and space, it's relatively new. Like Jay Shetty's been out

with eight years, nine years, you know what I mean? Where do you go when you want to learn about podcast? You say that, but there's so much podcast and so much information. Like, where do you go

to learn and like watch the. My entry to podcasting was different because of Chris Marrow. We called Chris Marlowe the powerfather for a reason. Like Chris Marlowe is the person who introduced me to podcast. Chris Monroe told me 12 years ago there's two things you're going to have to do. You're going to have to write a book and you're going to have to start a podcast. And I tell the story all the time, but I was like, I was arrogant. I'm like a podcast.

Why would I start a podcast? I do more than radio. And he was like, trust me. This is where the industry is going. And when I sat back and I was like, you know what? I have been fired four times. I don't know how this breakfast stuff shit might turn out. So it wouldn't be cool just to have your own platform. But then you saw what combat Jack was doing. You know what I mean? You saw, I think the Reed had just launched. Joe

Rogan had just launched the champs podcast with Neil and Moshe Kasha was around. So I was like, you know what? Why not? And he was absolutely right. I started my own podcast, brilliant idiots, and now the rest is history. But I learned so much from him. And I had to observe so many other podcasts back then, like I had to know who Joe Rogan was, right? Like, I had to know, you know, who the chance podcast was. So it's like all of these people that started to come into space, I always paid attention. And because the podcast, like, you know, the stuff you should know, podcasts about extraterrestrials and aliens are like, you know, news podcasts, like the Daily or the New York Times. Like, I've always been a person that takes in a whole lot of information because I want to know what's going on.

I don't want to look at the top 44 people in podcasting and not know why they're on this list. Right. You know what I'm saying? You learn by reading articles like The Hollywood Reporter, you know, 44 most powerful people in podcasting list. Like, it's talent on here, it's executives on here, it's agents on here. When I was young and lists like this would come out about hip hop, I would read them. When lists like this came out about business, I read it. Why?

Because I want to know who's who. I want to know who the real players are. Who should I be studying? I want to know what everyone is doing. That's how you know if a person is serious about the. field they are in or not, but most of y'all just hate on the people you should be learning from, but it's right there in front of you, the 44 most powerful people in podcast and list. So that's all I'm encouraging everybody to do.

I know that we love hip-hop and, you know, we love, you know, this era that we're in and we love the circle that we're in. But step outside of that circle sometimes. But do your due diligence to see why these people are on the list. that you might see on your algorithm all the time. There's a reason they're not on that list. They're not on that list because they're not doing those type of numbers. I do think, I don't know why Wallow and Gilly wasn't on the list.

They should, I'm pretty sure they were on the list last year. I don't know why they weren't on the list this year. But go look at these people and see why they're on the list. They're on the list because they're doing the numbers. They're on the list because they got cultural cachet. They're on the list because when somebody like the Hollywood Reporter goes to look at who's really getting the downloads, who's really making the money, It's those individuals.

Who's having real world impact in whatever space that they're in is those individuals. So I'm just challenging everybody. Go out there and do your due diligence as to why these people are on the list because it really was very, it fucked my brain up this week

to see people saying things like this list is ranked. Right. And this person, salute to smart list. They were the first people. people in the article. No disrespect. They are not the number one podcast in the podcasting game. Trust me when I tell you, Mel Robbins and Joe Rogan are having way better years and have been

having way better years for a long time than Smallness. Smallness has done some great deals. I'm not shitting on it in no way to perform. I'm just telling you that if you knew about the podcasting game, you wouldn't say things like, oh, damn, Joe Rogan is number 17 on this list and think that Joe Rogan has somehow fell and lost relevance. Like you just don't know That's all I'm saying You got to know who Jay Shetty is in the podcast and game That's that's that's that's that's it come on man

Come on, come on That's all on So anyway Lauren, tell them what to find you Lauren La Rosa everywhere It's L-O-R-E-N Not L-A-U-R-E-N Lauren LaR-R-E-N

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that's all the places. Yes. You told them to download the latest, right? The latest with Lauren La Rosa, I did. Okay, I was briefed. I wasn't being listening. Which is something I also got to, I remember to pay attention to them

when they talk. See, I was being nice. You can't tell fucking fuck up if you're not really listening to them. You know what I'm saying? You do that a lot to me. You'll be sitting right next to me and you'll be like, you'll say something

and I literally be like, I just said that. Yeah. But you didn't say that way. As always, you listen to this podcast. You think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant.

You're absolutely right. If you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too, it's the brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening.