The Brilliant Idiots - Moonrise Kingdom

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

This week on The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne tha God and Andrew Schulz are discussing real parenting stuff: the difference between raising kids with money vs. without, why today's kids have weaponized the language of mental health, They discuss the Poo Shiesty/Gucci Mane situation, and somehow it all circles back to one simple lesson: hire a lawyer, not a getaway driver. Charlamagne and Andrew break down why music contracts are so predatory, when renegotiating is the right move, and they hit the Offset shooting outside the Hard Rock Casino, Kanye's Wireless Festival drama, the UK Prime Minister weighing in on Ye, and a convo about whether sponsors actually vet who they're attaching their name to. They also run through the WNBA's "Stud Buds" era, Dawn Staley's legacy and why she should be getting paid way more, and women's basketball becoming must-see TV. Download Cash App Today: [https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/zt3hy9x9] #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Direct deposit and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: ⁠⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots⁠⁠ Jess Hilarious - Til Death Do We Parent - ⁠Pre Order⁠ 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God - ⁠⁠Pre Order⁠⁠ The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel -⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley - ⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks- By Charlamagne Tha God - ⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Check out Andrew Schulz - ⁠⁠www.theandrewschulz.com⁠⁠ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" - ⁠⁠https://blackeffect.com⁠⁠ Checks out AlexxMedia ⁠AM Mornings⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Charlamagne, the God. Andrew Schultz. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. How's the Kyle Walker? I hope what Charlemagne just told me before this podcast started, never ceased a light of day. It was just brainstorming some sketches.

Yeah, we were. Can't brainstorm a sketch or two? I think you can even call that a stretch. That's exactly what would have happened. That was what happened to his butthole. Listen, how was your weekend, man? Yo, my weekend was good, man. Would you do anything fun?

Where were we this? Was that in Rhode Island this weekend? No. Was that last weekend? Oh, the past weekend. I don't even know what I did. I just hung out of the family. Oh, no, we went out east.

We were out east with the family. Was it out of East? Hamptons. Hamptons and we just did a nice little chilling with the fan, bro. My daughter's like, like, just awesome. Like, at round two, they start to really communicate and you went through this four times, so you already know. But like, you get to actually engage with them, play with them,

negotiate with them, like imagine things. It's a beautiful thing that means nothing. Okay, it's not going to mean anything when they get to about six or seven because they become whole different people. Oh, really? Whatever that sweet little innocent thing is now, oh my God, because at some point there's going to be a turn around six or seven and you're like, who are you?

Did you get possessed? What happened? Really? And don't let one of them, like, let's just say one of them early was like the Rebel Rouser, right? Rabble-Rouser? What is it? Rebel or rabble? Rebel? If one of them early was the Rebel Rouser,

and then the other one was the calm one, at some point the personalities are going to switch. Ooh, I was like that too. Apparently I had, what is it called? The Terrible Toes? Have you heard of that? Oh, man, yeah. I was like terrible at that age or so,

and then like I was fine the older version where you're supposed to be terrible. It was one of those switched. Did you experience that, Chris? Yeah, I mean, I'm in the middle of it right now where my quote, easy kid. Oh, now she's going to tell him. It's a hard kid.

Yeah. And my quote, hard kid is great. Yeah. So you never know. And that says teenagers, young adults. So buckle up. By the way, nothing breaks your heart more than the easy kid. Oh.

But, you know, we put too much on them early. I know. Right? So the easy kid, I'm like, how can my easy kid be easy and they're only seven? You know, they just got here. So, you know, they're going through phases. So when the easy kid becomes a. hard one, but you're used to the other one being, it's like, yo, what happened?

And there's shit that's outside of your control, right? It's like their environment of school, their friend group. Yep. Yep. I did a whole deep dive on it yesterday. I was just like, yo, what the fuck? But that's exactly what it is. Like, Derek. And you sit down with your kid at that age and like, will they, will they be like self-aware enough to tell you what's going on? I think so. I mean, that's the only way I know how to even do it. So how do you do it? That's what you do? You sit down and you got to have a conversation. One-on-one. One-on-one. Okay, so how do you broach that? And how old is she? seven.

Okay, she's seven years old. You sit her down. Is your wife present or is it just you? Yeah, yeah, she's there sometime, but you just, you got to just sit there and talk to her and ask her, what's wrong? You'll start with there's something wrong. You're not just like, you're feeling. Well, this is after, by the way, this is after I've exhausted everything.

I've exhausted the yelling and like, yo, you're going to do it. I've got to that. Yo, what's wrong? What's up? Like, what's going on with you, blah, blah, blah, blah, this and that. And so once you have that conversation, they're still going to look you dead in the eyes and say no. You know what I mean? And it's just like you got to let them deal with.

What I'm trying to convince them of now, at least the one, is that you got to see things through. Like everything can't be when you don't want to do something, I'm sick. Because you can't play with that. Because as a parent, you're constantly going to take your children to the doctor every time they say that they're sick. Are they stomach hurt? Yeah, my daughter's doing this right now where like, you know,

we'll put her down to sleep. and I'll, you know, read the books and everything, and then I'll go, okay, it's time to go to bed. She'll go to bed. And then she'll go after I leave. She's like, wait a minute. She'd be like, Daddy, I have a poopie. See what I'm saying?

And she knows that if she's shit herself, I have to come clean it. So she's learning, like, the mechanisms of manipulation at two years old. She's going, my dad's not going to leave me with a shit in my pants. So I'm going to lie to him about having a shit in my pants so that he comes against me. That's at two years old. Yeah. So you're trying to teach all.

You're trying to teach these lessons about not lying, number one, number two, because lying leads to so many things. I have to trust you as a parent. Yeah. And the worst thing is when the kids tell you that they're sick, yo, because you can't dismiss that. Nope. You know what I'm saying? Nope, no, no, no.

So I was trying to convince her another day because, like, you know, she complained about stomach aches. Stomachers, by the way, this has been going off for, like, a couple of years now. Yeah. So you take her to the, I'm like, we took her to the doctor one time. And she got me so convinced that something was wrong with her stomach. And they're doing the x-rays and everything else. And we can't really see her appendix. And it was like, you know, I think at the time she might have been five.

It's like, you know, you may. Have appendicitis. No, we could look inside. Like, we're not about to just cut her open to look inside. But you're trying to, but you're trying to explain to your kids, this is why you can't just say this type of shit. But it plays off of all your deepest insecurities and fears as a parent. Man.

Like, your kid has an issue that you can't see but could potentially be wrong with them. And you're not going to protect. them from it. Oh. They can't advocate for themselves. Exactly. You need to advocate for them, but they also might be bullshitting. Yes. And then, and then, and I told her, I told her the other day, I said, you do realize every single time you don't want to do something, whether it's go to sleep, whether it's, go to track practice, whether it's play rehearsal, your stomach hurts. Can I, can I ask you something? Every single time. Welcome to my world. But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. This is your youngest, no? No, third. So it's your third. Your third and your fourth have grown up in a level of

wealth that your first and seconds did not know. Yeah. Second did. Second did. Okay, maybe, but still, it's it's continuing to escalate. Is there a, is there a version where you're looking at them? And this could be completely false. It could be just kids doing kids shit, right? Or is there a version where you ever think, as a parent who came from nothing financially, obviously? But like, is there a person where you go, oh, are my kids soft because they grew up with luxury? Did they not deal with the hard knock frustration and trials and tribulations that makes you more resilient? Like, do you start to talk to your wife about that? No, I don't give a fuck.

Like, I'm so happy that they live the life of luxury. Of course you're happy. But are you going, are they saying this because they can get out of stuff? Whereas I don't even, you know what's so interesting? We're thinking about it from a money aspect. They're not thinking about that at all. I know. They're just being kids.

What I'm saying is, are you projecting your feelings about money onto your kid? No, I don't think money I'm going to do with it. I think because we used to do that. Do you know what I'm trying to ask? I think it's a generational thing. I'm very aware of what you're talking about. Break it down. Maybe I'm not communicating.

I feel I'm less resilient than my father was. Let me, like, here's a good example. My mom comes from nothing, right? Right. And she busts her ass. My parents for this dance studio, they're able to, like, provide a life that, like, my mom could never even fucking imagine for herself as a kid, right? I'm sure seeing us maybe not do as many chores, not help out as around as there.

There was a cleaning lady that came by every week. Like there's a little part of her that's going, am I enabling my kids? Am I making them not hard workers or am I making them think that this is a normal life? And I could feel that kind of insecurity creeping in where like it didn't as much with my dad. But I don't think it's just money. I think it's our society as a whole where we've trained these kids to express what they're feeling. Oh, that's a whole other thing. And feel empowered in a way that certainly my parents never were encouraged to express themselves.

And now we got a reward whatever you're feeling. But now you can use those feelings to manipulate me. Well, I think what both of y'all are saying, but we all played sick when we didn't want to do something when we were kids. So that's the other thing. They're probably just doing kid shit. That's it. But my mom would look through the lens of like, have I made soft boys? Because I tried to provide a better life.

And we're probably looking at her like, I'm going to work my ass off. Like, I'm just being a kid. Yeah. No, no, for me, it's just like, I don't want you to bullshit me because I don't want to get anything wrong. If there's something, because I, I'm worried about the health of your child. I'm using, yes, I'm talking about the boy who cried wolf. I'm like, you know the story of the boy who cried wolf. I'm telling the story of the boy who cried wolf because I don't want y'all to be that.

Because if something is actually wrong, then we got to actually. Yes, because if you tell me that your stomach hurt and kids, I mean, you're watching your child. They're the best actors in them. I mean, God, I mean, if you just put a camera on them, I mean, falling on the floor, grabbing their stomach. Yo, my seven-year-old, she, yesterday, she had play practice,

play rehearsal. So we just, we dropped my 10-year-old off somewhere from driving back to the house in between, right? You know, in between. But then we get a call from the school saying the seven-year-old is in the nurse's office. And I'm sitting there like, let me guess. Her stomach hurts. I'm like, oh, my God.

So we go pick her up. And I already know she does not want to be at play rehearsal because she didn't want to wake up in the morning. So it was a whole day thing. So it starts with trouble sleeping. I'm having trouble sleeping at night. So she's not sleeping. But then she's waking up super groggy. She doesn't want to go to school.

So now she's got through school. Now, she doesn't want to go to Play Riarsault. But there's one thing she's avoiding it. Listen, we picked her from Play Rehersault. She laid in the, she's like this in the back seat. With your hands across a vampire chest, legs straight out. And I'm just like, yo, she is putting it on.

But you can't totally ignore it. No. Because I had a similar situation, and it turns out there was something at the root of it. And it took a long time to come out. How old was they, though? How old was she then? You're talking 16.

See, that's what I'm saying. She says this is seven. But in retrospect, it started at that age. Really? Yeah. Okay, okay. Now you're fucking in my. Okay.

No, listen, let me tell you something, man. There is no greater game, not chess, not any video game you can play that is more difficult than navigating raising kids. Who. Because now they have the language of mental health. Yeah. My, through social media. That's fucking in and out movie, man.

That's your. It's not out. It's your fault. Right. You did this to all of us. They can talk about anxiety, which is fantastic on one hand, right? The flip side is they are kids. They can be manipulative.

They do want to get it. I can remember in retrospect, even as a teenager, I would get these terrible stomach cramps. I can remember going to a concert and feeling uncomfortable and I was nervous and I actually had to lay down. But, you know, I never talked about it with my parents. And I was feeling anxiety, but you just kind of. power through it. These kids talk about it. Yes, they do, but I'm almost like,

it's not that we're telling them about mental health. Like, both of my parents suffered from depression their entire lives. I was very, like, aware of mental health. They saw therapists. I didn't feel anything that, like, wrong about talking to a therapist, talking about mental health being sad, depressed, whatever, like, all these things are like, they're normal

in my household. You might be in the minority. Well, what I would say is, it wasn't societally rewarded yet. So within my house, We were very comfortable talking about it, but I still knew that there was societal scrutiny to be walking around going, I'm sad or I'm anxious or I'm whatever. So while I could maybe talk to my parents about it, I wasn't utilizing it as a manipulative tool to get out of work or I need a mental health day or like a teacher is giving me too much homework. And I go, this is this pressure is mounting. Shit, I even heard a story from a friend who will remain namers where like they had to look at mental health evaluation.

for the people that were going out for a sport in high school. And they had to keep a kid on a team because they thought that his mental health was so shaky that if he didn't make the team, he might do something. So they rewarded... God, dang. Right? You know what, no, there's a part of me that's not mad at that.

Well, go. Make him a punter. All you want to do is be a part of something. So if you feel like this guy really could end up being some lone wolf shooter, Put him in a uniform, put a helmet on them and make them feel good about himself. I don't have a problem with that.

This is what I asked him. And I was like, did that circumstance take away the opportunity from someone else that deserve to be on the team? And they said, nah, we just opened up another spot for the crazy motherfucker. Yeah, because the reality of situation is they're not doing that

because they are afraid of this kid and, you know, because they're afraid of this guy getting a gun and coming to shoot up the fucking school. hurt themselves. I think it was hurt them. I'm not, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. Or should the kid have learned the lesson, hey, you're not skilled enough with the sport. Go and practice. If it's basketball, work on your left hand. This guy want to be a different type of shooter. You fucking down. You know what I'm saying. You know, I'm wicks. You know, I don't have a, I know, I know,

I know that feels pussy for our generation. I know what I don't feel bad about it based off all of the context you just told. So the question. is like how much do we change the meritocracy to control for catastrophic events? And we can sit here and be like, that's silly to do. But every time we go in the airport, we take our shoes off because we're trying to avoid a catastrophic event. So we do change rules for catastrophic shit. Yes.

And listen, I, even when it comes to the kids, right, I don't have a problem with kids and us having these conversations about mental health because I do see where putting a young child in therapy at like eight, nine. I've seen where it can benefit them. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Having somebody to sit down and talk to and talk about what's going on at school. I understand that.

You know, somebody told, I don't know if it was my therapist or maybe it was my wife. Somebody told me something the other day. Maybe it was a conversation I was having with another father about how when kids are going through things, we like to tell them, man, suck it up, yo. Like, we went through way worse, blah, blah, blah, this and that. But, bro. Did we not want somebody to talk to, Shale? Hell yeah.

Did we not want somebody to put their arm around it? Did we not like when we were in the guidance counselor office and the guidance counselor was just actually talking to us about our fucking feelings? Yo, I don't care what age you are. That matters. I think it's huge and I think just, listen, dude, one of the best thing I think my parents ever did for me is we had dinner every single night together at 5.30.

He was like, my mom worked nights and my dad worked days. But there was like a window for like an hour and a half where I had both of them. and we had dinner together. And they just asked us, they're like, how was your day? What was going on? And without having a pry, they knew a lot going on in our lives.

And I felt like they cared. Yeah. I felt like when I spoke, it had value people. Like the people that I cared about the most actually were interested in the things I had to say. And now, not everybody has that opportunity,

but like, still, it was amazing. My wife just told me this shit talking about, like, you know, like,

you know, my oldest daughter is 17th, when your oldest daughter comes to talk to you about stuff or even the 10-year-old, you know, they'll come and tell you about stuff that's going on at school or, you know, with their extracurricular activity. My go-to is always, and that shit don't matter.

Like, them kids that you worried about or, like, those kids that you got, you're not even going to be friends with them in the next five years. Like, that shit don't matter. But it does matter to them. It does matter to them. So you can't trust.

Now, now, now, am I speaking from a 47-year-old perspective who's lived enough life to know, like. But they don't know that. You don't know that. You got to meet them where they are. Gotta meet them where they fucking are. And that's my problem. No, but this is good you're even aware of it.

Like, that's the other thing about the mental health shit is getting out of your own fucking way. Oh, I wasn't aware of this until about two weeks ago when my wife explained this shit to me. Because I was like, that's sound advice that you're concerned about somebody that in five years you won't even know. Yeah, bro, but you got to understand it's like the Bible. It's like how many times has God got to say? say, hey, treat others how you want to be treated.

You know what I mean? And it's like, he knows. He's out there like, trust me your life going to be way better if you do this. You still got motherfuckers arguing with him about. Thou shalt not know that motherfucking five years. Like, no. I know him now.

I know him now, right now. And I'm like, and which is tough, right? Because if somebody would have told us, by the way, some people did tell me that when I was younger. Think about how small our world was when we're in high school and middle school. These kids are in a much bigger world and it's much skis. they're under pressure that we, it's perceived pressure.

I'm just thinking me going through my social media the other day. World War III. Brother. All the jobs are gone. AI is going to take all the jobs. Unemployment. You know, I'm looking at it being like, damn. Now imagine a 16-year-old kid's seeing that day in, day out, day in, day out. Chris, you're right. You know what's so crazy about that?

Yesterday, I text, Chris, I text showed up like, I think he might drop the nuke. my whole algorithm on Instagram was nothing about videos on how to survive nuclear warfare. And I'm sitting there thinking like, you little stupid motherfuckers have no idea

what you're talking about. There is no surviving nuclear warfare. So if young kids have to deal with that and then we're trying to have a regular conversation with them about shit like this, no. If I

you're coming to me telling me, well, when nuclear bomb drops all you got to do is go in the house and stay in the house for 72 hours. Really? Yeah. That's what the fuck you do. What house?

You know? What house? Exactly. So am I to, so I'm bad for telling you that this is not the way this shit is going to go? Yeah. Now, I'm Mr.

optimistic for everything except for shit like this. But I've never had to deal with this in my lifetime. Well, there's an example. In the early 80s, there was a TV movie called The Day After. I remember that shit.

and it was about a nuclear bomb hitting an American city. And it was considered so potentially damaging to the mindsets of teenagers, young people. Did they take it off? Well, no, the day they aired it, they had to have special assemblies for the kids to be able to talk about it and process it and discuss it. Now they're just getting that shit every 30 seconds on their feed, but there's really no way to process it. Yeah. So maybe here's the question just about like about mental health. health and the net, it's net positive in that kids are now feeling comfortable and even like

young adults, adults, hopefully feeling comfortable expressing difficult emotions that they're dealing with. Yes. So now we all have to worry about like some manipulative people using it to their advantage, but the hope is that the people that might have self-harmes because of what they're dealing with and an inability to communicate the world, hopefully less of them do. that. So we got to do with more annoying people, but we have also get the benefit of hopefully less people hurting themselves. It's definitely a net positive. I think I wouldn't even say manipulative because there's almost a negative connotation to that. I just think things are hard for kids and the way they learn to get past it is to experience. We're talking about like people at work

that go like, I'm, I need a mental health day. I'm like, what is that even mean? We all need Right. Like, we all... Yeah, can we all take one together and does everybody just have a day off? That's Christmas. It is. It is for... You wait until December for that shit. There is certain things that kids have been doing since the beginning of time.

Like, your kid is going to pretend to be sick and you got to take it serious. Nowadays, your kid... Like, not even nowadays, kids have always pretended to run away. I did that shit. Where the fuck do we get that from? Yo, my parents... My parents played me, bro. I said I'm running away.

They must have been... stress, man. My parents must have been really stressed because they let me walk out. And I walked out the apartment and I went down to the lobby. I hung out in the lobby for hours. I had to walk back upstairs.

And knock on my own door like, all right, I'm back. I must have been... But that's how you know kids are kids. Five. But that's how you know kids. That's how you know kids are kids. Yeah, like I couldn't have been that much old six. Like, you know, your parents

Suddenly, they let me walk out the apartment and I just stayed in the lobby and I had to go back up to my own apartment. This is bad. This was like low east side. Like, this is a crazy. That's how you know. Now, we're on the Upper West. Oh, okay. We're on Upper West.

But it was, I was hanging out with the door guys and they were like, yo, what, what's up? And I'm like, I ran away. You was just running around by yourself at five for a couple of hours. I was walking down the lobby. I didn't have the balls to leave, but my parents called my bluff. and I never threatened to leave again because they knew I was pussy bro, I wasn't about that life.

You know, but that's how you know kids and kids because think about that, running away. What do you think is out there? When you see... It's better than the punishment. Huh? That's what the kid thinks. I don't punish my kids.

No, I think it's attention. I think it's just I want attention. I don't know how to say it. I did it. I was a little older like 12, 13, because I was getting in trouble and shit like that. I went with my uncle. You got caught, though.

I went to my uncle and he put me to work. And that shit was worse than if I would have stayed at home. His uncle put him to work and he's been painting his nails ever since. Yeah. Come on. He ran away. He ran away to his uncle.

And his uncle put him to work. Sometimes you got to learn the lesson in the hard way, you know. Seven inches at a time. Oh, my God. My God. That shit, listen, I don't know what the fuck the morals. There is no moral of this story.

Is it being a parent is no joke? No joke, bro. No joke. No joke. You got to navigate all of these little personalities and you just hope you do a good job without fucking traumatizing them in some way, shape, or form. But man, when you get to the, when you, I don't punish my kids the way I used to get punished so there's no beatings or anything like that. But you got to sometimes like, sometimes you just got to drop to your knees and let them know like, yo, you are hurting my feelings. Like, you hurt my feelings, you're like, this is hurting me right now.

What did they say to that? Nothing. Look, you dead in the eye and just be like, and it's almost like they know they got you broken down. My generation, hurt feelings. Whatever was a weapon would have been grabbed in use. One of my favorite threats in the house is you would have not have survived the 90s. That's what you say.

Yes, you would not have survived the 90s. My mom is here for the week. Oh, that's, yeah. I was watching, I was going through it yesterday with my seven-year-old, and I'm just looking at her like, yo, you don't want to tap in. You don't want to intervene, mom. Nice and discipline, mom. Let's go.

Remember what used to happen to me? It's amazing. It's amazing how soft they get with the kids, right? All the fight is gone. Nobody talks about. No teeth at all. I mean, none. I used to get beat with extension.

coach. I could be on aisle four of a grocery store, say a bad word. And she was like, fucking Mrs. Incredible with the reach. Bown! The whole other aisle. What is up with that? Yeah, yeah. Why did we stop that? They got soft, bro. They got soft. Why we stopped the beatings and the spankans work? Grandparents got soft. Did the beatings and spankans work? No, no. We're boys. I don't think so. I don't think. You don't think so? It worked on me. It worked on me like a motherfucker. I never got beat, though. I think I maybe got spanked, but I never got beat.

I got beat. It's a dish with a spanking and a beat. First of all, it's actually sick that we say spanking. We're going to spank the kids, but then you want to spank some ass in the bedroom, too? That's just weird. You know what I'm saying? It's like, do girls that like that,

where they bag kids? I don't know. Like, I don't know if there's a correlation to those things. I don't know. Like, imagine a girl is like, yo, slap that. And I was like, oh, you are a naughty little girl. Can you imagine? That's wild.

First of all, we got to think about some of this shit. Yeah. You're in the bedroom. You spanking ass. And she's calling you daddy. That's what I'm saying. Like, is it some weird, like, childhood issues? That's some sick fucking shit, yeah.

And now that we're, like, good and, like, supportive and open communicators with our children. Yes, man. Will they never do that stuff? It's sick. That's why you got to tell, you know, you got to talk to these good. The girls, the way stepdadi's talk to their stepkids and their spank kids. Help me understand it. I'm not your daddy.

I'm not your daddy. Yes. You say I'm not your daddy. Yeah, you try that. You don't say. You know what I'm saying? You try that shit. But a girl from Venezuela is like, thank you for my freedom, Poppy.

Thank you for my freedom. Thank you all your, poppy. Thank you for my freedom. Oh, man. We'll figure it out. What else? Oh, I went to the final four this weekend. You were there.

I went to the final four, the women's final four, man. Oh, ain't nobody care about it. You got your goddamn mind. I keep telling y'all over and over. There's nothing better than women's basketball. Yes, over now. UCLA beat South Carolina in the National Championship. Oh, really?

But my favorite sports are women's basketball, women's college basketball, then boxing, then football, and then women's professional basketball. All right. Those are my favorite sports. Those are the things that absolutely bring me the most joy. All right, bro. Those sports.

And so I went to the final four, and I feel so crazy that I never went to a final four. South Carolina has been the six final fours in a row, three national championship games in a row. And this is my first time going to one. Who won? And you was bad luck. Oh, UCLA? No, we beat Yukon. Youcon was undefeated.

Youcon was on a 54-game win screen. But they lost the final. And I was at the game Friday, too, and we won. So we won Friday, lost the Yukon. He was on a 54-game win streak. That's when Don Staley and Gino got into it. And Don Stanley told Gino, I will beat your ass, okay? Because Gino was acting like a little hoe.

Don will take Gino. Don't take Gino. Straight up head-to-head fist fight. Don Staley from North Philly will take. How old is Gino, Chris? He's got to be the 60s. No, early 70s. But from Norristown, also from Philly.

That's on the outskirts. That ain't. Rough. Rough. Rough. Nah. Gino was acting like a little hole, though. I'd never seen Gino act like this. You got your ass beat, you lost, and then you come to Don at the end of the game to say you didn't shake my hand in the beginning, which she did. Which, he got a little senile. We're starting to see these old people in leadership positions that have been there too long,

really getting senile, yo. He accused South Carolina's players of ripping Sarah Strong's jersey. She ripped her own jersey. he accused Don Staley and not shaking his hand she shook his hand and then he accused the players of playing too rough

and of Don Staley ranting and raving the referees what coach doesn't rant to referees yeah it's kind of your job that's your fucking job You gotta lobby the reps bro You gotta do it

Only to come back and apologize twice He's done two apologies Good for him for apologizing at least Sure You fuck up You should apologize Like, clearly he fucked up here because they got on video. That's the thing with the coaches, bro, and even the players.

Stop acting like you didn't do shit. We have 70 different cameras in 4K filming the entire. At all times. No, no, no, no, no. Not 70. That's just what the game has. 80,000 people hitting it from every motherfucking angle. I beat your ass didn't even come from the professional.

That's Twitter. That came from the stands. The stands caught Don saying. I'll beat your ass. And they got lip readers now. Oh, my God. That shit was crazy. Because we was all trying to figure out what the fuck happened, right?

Definitely in the women's basketball they got the lip readers. They got the best lip readers. Yo, women's basketball is the best, bro. I'm telling you. You don't see that I can't get it out. I couldn't get it out. I was going to call it a Final Four leg lock. Man, shut me.

They're embracing it, though. They got a whole crew, you know, the WMBA. They got a crew called the Stundberg. I love this. It is. This I love. They killed it at the All Star Week. They love, yo, they love them.

They love me girls. There's three of them called the studs. This is, this to me, is fire. Lean into the shit. Stop pretending. You know what I mean? You don't got to put lipstick on the studs. Let them be studs and let that.

No, I mean that. Like, let them be studs and let the internet embrace it and love it. And like, let's not pretend it's not what it is. Yeah, it's the Minnesota Links players, Courtney Williams and Natisha Hideman. Fire. Right. Let's go.

And they started popping on Twitch and Instagram. They're literally called the stud buds. People look at, look at the merch. Denise Rob. Look at the merch. Play on my period. Wait a minute. Yo, be who you are.

Why the fuck wouldn't you be who you are? I didn't know studs got periods, bro. I didn't know that. I'll be honest, I didn't know it. I didn't know they got periods. It's three of them, though. It's not just two of them. Oh, no, that is them.

It is them. And yo, by the way, I thought they got a chip or something. Like, you know how some girls can not get their period for a while because they get birth control? But I guess if you're a lesbian, there's no need for birth control. Listen, I'm at the game. And I'm familiar with both of them, but I didn't know that they had branded this whole thing called the stud buds. So my guy, Baccari, Bacar goes, yo, look, yo, it's the stud buds.

I say, yo, don't be disrespectful. I'm like, yo, we had the women's game. You don't need to do all of that. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, no, that's their name is to him right there. And I'm like the stud buds. And I'm thinking he's fucking with me. So I look it up.

Yo, it's people in the stands like, yo, trying to get their attention. They fuck with them heavy. I need that shirt. You see what I'm saying? I play on my period. I play on my period. Support women's sports, yo. You should be able to gamble on that.

What do you mean? Like, if you know if the team, man, you don't think they're going to be more angry and aggressive. I'm putting money down on the team that's dripping, bro. I don't think polymarket got that one. No, they need it. They need it. They need it. Yo, on Polly Market, did they ever bet what color the Dildo was looking that hit the floor?

Cowsy, bro. No, it's two of them. It's Polly Market and Cowsy. Yeah, but we rocking with Cousy, bro. Do they ever bet? Remember when the Dildos were hitting the floor at the women's games? Yes. Did they bet?

They were. Really? Yeah. What was the bet? Like, what color it was? Or is one going to get thrown tonight? Yep. Who's going to strap it on first?

Wow. Wow. And there was one dude that did the bet, then went to the game through it. And made to money. Winter, winter, winter chicken. Oh shit, right there, right there, Dildo Market. Yeah. Dildo.

That's what it said. No, but for, I'm telling you, final four, I've never been to one. That shit was so fun, yeah. Good energy. Oh, my God. See, you got a thing. See, you're a Nick fan. Yeah.

And you live in New York, so you got Knicks, you got the Knicks, you got the Mets. We have professional sports. We don't really care about an amateurism. I'm from South Carolina. You guys got an amateur sports team, right? I know, South Carolina. North Carolina got the Panthers and the Hornets and all of that. We don't have, well now, what's the Hornets Charlotte team now?

Charlotte. Hornets. They were the Hobanus. It's New Orleans Hornets. Charlotte Bobcats. No, they're back to the Hornets. Yeah, they're back to the Hornets. Oh, yeah, New Orleans went to the Pelican again.

Yeah, yeah. So, right? So, I'm a cowboy fan. I didn't grow up rooting for anybody. Don Sterly. Oh, my God. To be at a championship game rooting for your team from your home state. What does she make?

She's the highest paid one. Women's coach. I think she makes like $25 million. A year? No, no, no, no, for like three years or something like that. I'm just saying, like, her program probably- They can't pay enough. That's what I'm- They can't pair enough.

I think her program is generating an obscene amount. They cannot pay her. No, no, I will say this. There's not the money it should be. Why? Just because like NIL deals and stuff like that, they're making money, but it could be a lot more is what I'm saying. No, for what she has done for that program

and how popular that program is, the Salking on the Lady Gamecocks, they should be rolling in, rolling in revenue. It seems like that, because, like, remember when LeBron was on the Cavs and, like, they estimated that he generates, like, a billion dollars for the city? And, like, yeah, there's a salary cap

so you can't pay him over a certain thing. Like, what is the, what do they estimate that Don Staley's effect is on the local economy? That's a good question. It's insane. Yeah, because they've had the highest attendance in college sports, Or at least women's basketball for like the last five years.

Sometimes talking about just the college game. I'm talking about all the restaurants. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The bars that are full after the game, the people watching that aren't able to get tickets to the game. Like, what happens to the local economy because of the team that she built? And what I would say is college sports

is so specifically different in that it's not really about the players because the players transition out. So the coach is the person that is curating that economic development in the city. You could pay her, It's still, I'll say this though, it's still not the same excitement as football only because two different things.

Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, like, it would probably be justified for her to be making triple what you think. So, I mean, you got people who actually come to games because it's darn still. You know how, like, when Deion Sanders was at Jackson State and at Colorado, like, people pull up to the game. I bet the hotels are packed. Yeah, like, Wanda Sykes comes, you know, plies, pulls out.

Like, people come to the games. You know what I mean? But if I'm her agent, you can't pay Don enough. That's the combo I'm having, right? Don got a statue already. But she deserves it. How many championships?

Three. Come on, bro. Three. And literally three, we've gone to three national championships in a row. But she's one three. She had a golden opportunity for gender equality, man. If she knocked out Gene,

let me tell you. Nah, he would have got jumped in. It was South Carolina was too deep. Stud bud. By the way, no, we wouldn't even have to leave. Listen, none of us would have to leave. our seats. Like her coaching staff with a song on Gino. Like, no, no, her coaching staff with a song on Gino, like Cadeja and Jolet, like, you know, there's one video if you watch it.

Salute to Cadeja. Cadija is out there. Cadeja got her hands behind her back like, yeah. Yeah. That is the symbolic, that is the universal. It's about to get in. Yeah, yeah. When you laughing with your hand by, yeah. That mean I'm on whatever you want. We can keep in peace or we can go to war. However you want to do it. Salute Cadeja sessions, man. What else happened this weekend? A lot of people going to jail.

Ooh, tell me. I mean, I was looking at the Pushaiste, Gucci Man. Oh, can you break down this story? Because this, to me, is like... I don't really know the story. I just know that from what I was told, Gucci Man, who Shishty wanted out of his contract. And he allegedly kidnapped and robbed

Gucci man and forced him to, you know, sign away his release papers, I guess. So let me ask you this question. Yes. This is a very interesting, like, stalemates therein. Because if Gucci allows the law and cooperates with the law to get the civilian justice that he deserves, if this allegedly did happen, wouldn't he be risking his own personal reputation? Who is?

Let's game theory. Let's game theory. I'm what you. Game theory, right? So, in order to monetize Poo's career, which he has him signed and he can make a lot of money, he would have to take on a huge brand risk because he's cooperating with the law and he's built his identity partially around being somebody who's from the streets and what. would never cooperate and probably has done some, you know, nefarious things in his life to gain the reputation that he has. So in a way, Poo puts him in a little bit of a pickle, right? It's like,

I'm going to go do this. If you cooperate, yeah, you can make money off me in the future, but you might lose some respect in the streets. If you don't cooperate, I'm free. Yeah, you know, but the thing is, I don't know, I've heard that theory, but I've also heard so many other theories. I heard that there's a video. Yeah. There's a video, right? Because Wasn't the FBI director? Wasn't he breaking down what he saw on a video? The charging document outlines some of the evidence, just some, establishing the defendant's roles in the federal offense.

This is as follows. Electronic monitoring data placing Williams Jr. At the offense location, which would put him in violation of his home detention conditions. Cell phone records and license plate reader data corroborating the coordinated travel of multiple defendants from Memphis, Tennessee to Dallas. Rental car records confirming Williams Sr. rented a vehicle that was used by the group. Surveillance footage from the offense location, a nearby office supply store,

in a hotel where several the defendants stayed following the offense. Fingerprint evidence as well that was recovered from the crime scene. matching at least two of the defendants, social media posts by defendants displaying what appears to be stolen property just in the days following the offense, Greyhound bus records confirming the travel of multiple defendants from Dallas to Memphis the day after the offense. In this case, came to Dallas to conduct legitimate business, and they were met with firearms and violence, as alleged in the charging document. So if there's video now, now Gucci can be like, don't want to be involved in this. I don't see why you have to testify if there's video.

Yes. Right. Now you get, now he gets the best of both worlds, which is I'm not testifying. I'm not pressing any charges. But if there's video, the state has to press charges. And then the other story, the other. Shishty was he had an ankle monitor. And so he's already violated his proposal.

And then the other story I heard was that Gucci's security guard was an off-duty police officer. Oh. And so whether you knew it or not, you up, you up the firearm on an off-duty police officer. What's the rules with hiring cops? I don't give a fuck. I know you don't.

I got one out there right now. Yeah, but I love it when you're here. I don't care about that. But like, what would the street code be about that? Man, listen, I'm with you on everything that you're saying, but I think at some point, fuck the street code. I'm, listen, you don't hear you. I'm not in the street, so I'm always like these guys are businessmen, man. And like, here's the thing.

And this is all alleged. I don't know if Poo Shisey did any of this, right? I'm just going off the stories I heard. I know that push-shy wouldn't do that to a white man. Well, whenever you hear these stories, it's literally always the black executives getting put in this position by black officers. You know, never hear, name or why.

What about back in the day? Hold on, hold on. What's going? Ignite and who's the guy who did the ice? Was the artist. I ain't talking about him. I'm talking about the executive. Ain't no artist running down on the white executive.

Well, the question I have is, because we can't look at it. It's only happening to other black people, but is there security in that knowing that he's not going to snitch or he's not going to involve the authorities, right, because they have the same street coat? Whereas, would Poo do it to? I don't even think, if this is true, I don't even think Poole was thinking like that. I think Poole was just literally a person whose mentality is still that of the street. The street. So this is how I know how to handle situation. But who would never do it to you because.

he knows that you're not going to buy by the street code. So regardless of... I don't believe that. I don't believe he wouldn't. Really? No. I don't believe that at all. I thought you were positing in the theory that it's black artists do it to black executives.

They wouldn't do it to white executives. I've never seen them do it to a white executive. White executives out here with the same contracts. Who do you think the black executives are learning it from? By the way, I don't even know if his contract was bad. I'm just saying that there are standard recording contracts. You ain't never... I've heard stories of people running down on Andre Harrell.

I've heard stories of people running down, of course, on Diddy. I've heard stories of people running down on EZE. But you ain't never heard stories. Five Davis got ran down on by. But we're not going to keep it street, is my point. I want to know. We bleep it, who? Lisa left eye Lopez, apparently, she claims.

Lisa ran down on class? Yeah. But that's not, see what I'm saying? I'm not saying that that's not the thing. With the crew. Oh, she had guys with her? Oh, I never heard that story. Okay, well, shout out to Lisa.

She's the realest out of all these motherfuckersersers. company, Clive Davis, we held them hostage like guns, the whole shebang. So, of course, Lisa was the ringleader. So we went up there and held everybody hostage and Puffy was the one that snitched us out. Yo, B, you know, your girls up here mad bugging, yo. And I was like, oh, Puff, why are you going to snitch us out, though? But he called, yeah, because we kicked him out of the meeting. No one ever ran down on, like, Leo Cole? I've never heard these stories. Well, why would you if you know that they're going to involve the law immediately? That's what I'm saying.

If you're not running down on somebody who you know is going to snitch because you're going to jail, you could run down on a street dude because there's the chance that he's going to operate with the street code. No, but to Charles's point, they've done that to like Steve Stout and you know he's not a street dude, he's going to go to the law and they've still done it. Yeah, really? Yeah. I mean, Steve got busted. Did he busted Steve upside the head with a bottle?

You know what I'm saying? Because he wanted out of the hate the hate me now video. My thing is this. This is the most important thing that you can buy. when you get into business or what you can invest your money in? A lawyer. Get you a good entertainment lawyer, number one, so you don't

sign a bad contract. And number two, when situations like this do arise, then you have your lawyer get you out of said situation or help you get out of said situation. Never in the history of life for anybody of any color will this work out.

If you run down on somebody and say, I'm going to rob them and kidnap them and make them under duress, let me out of my deal, that is not going to end well for you, buddy. I don't give a fuck. You're right. It's not going to end well. This is just the case of somebody who just didn't understand business.

And the reason I know that Gucci understood business, because Gucci didn't go there on those street shit. Gucci thought that clearly they were having a meeting about some business. And then the other side, allegedly, decided to turn that into some other shit. I wouldn't be mad if Gucci went and talking about it. old, but I'm, you know, I'm, but I just think it's stupid to still abide by those rules. I agree. When you're not, you're so far removed.

If you're a law-abiding citizen, the law will protect you. If you're not a law of Biden citizen, you can't use the rules because you can't be protected from the things you're doing, which are breaking the law. They still want Gucci. They want, they, and this is when you, you know, people just want to see crashouts. They want to hear a story about Gucci allegedly almost getting robbed and then pulling out of chopping and spraying down everybody. That's what would make everybody believe the allure, the story of the boogeyman Gucci.

Hasn't he proved himself? Yes. And he's also proved that he wants to evolve. Go read his last book episodes. This man has evolved on purpose. This man has grown and evolved intentionally. No, that's the clone. That's the clone.

Even that pisses me off. Whenever a person decides to grow and evolve, now they're a clone. What's Ross saying? What did Ross say? My DM, Mosei, what you think, how you feel about the Gouac Poushyshe'si situation. I don't like it for either side. You know what I'm talking about? Guwak most definitely didn't deserve that.

And I don't want to see this for the Lord, homie Pushiasty, but this one niggas got to be educated and understand. In business, you got to negotiate, my nigga. You got a negotiate. If you were signed for $100K and now you got 10 M's on the table, it's time to negotiate. This is how we do this. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Everybody win. Let's go.

That's how I got to go, my name. You can't muscle your way out of no shit and no business. It don't go that way. And I ain't just talking about on the people's side, but on the other side, the blitz going to come. You can't run from it. It's a good point. It's that simple.

When you have leverage, when you have leverage, like I guess Poo does have, you renegotiate your contract. That's it. We see basketball, the NFL players do this all of us. time, right? They're like, hey, if you want to extend me past my rookie contract, like, let's do this, right? Actually, I don't know if they do with around the rookie deal, but like, there are contract negotiations when you have unbelievable leverage because you don't want to, you know, miss out on that opportunity as the owner of a team. Either renegotiate or just fulfill your contract

and gone about you. How many more albums does he have to do? It might be like a lifetime or foul. I mean, if it's a, I mean, damn, if it's a lifetime, that's just a ridiculous deal to time. But we know that these deals are incredibly parasit. Like, these music deals are like, Yeah. Unbelievable. But I understand why. And I'll tell you what I mean about that. If I'm taking you from nothing and I'm investing in you and I invest, I don't know, who knows how much Gucci Man invested in Fushai-Sty initially, you don't know if you're ever, and I'm just going to throw a number out there. Well, let's just say the investment is $500,000, $500,000 a million.

I don't know if I'm going to make this money back. So I have to create a contract that at least allows me to get this $1 million back. But like Ross said, if this guy does end up taking off or this girl does end up taking off and you make your initial investment back, the right thing to do is renegotiate. So if I was to make your argument, if I was to take your argument,

what I would say is these record labels, they invest that 500K in 20 different artists. 19 of them, they don't recoup. So that one that does hit, they really need to recoup 10 million from that one before they can renegotiate in their head as a business, right? Because they're like, I already lost $9,500,000 on these other fucking 19 artists.

I'm finally going to get a chance to recoup right here. And that's probably why the contracts are so predatory. That being said, if you're the artist and you're in this contract where you're making peanuts, but you know how much you're generating, it's very difficult for them to sit in that. Yeah, absolutely. But I believe if you're a good executive, Yes, you have a contract that protects you.

But if that person hits... The smart thing to do is renegotiate. So you avoid shit like this. When I say shit like this, I don't mean fucking getting robbed and kidnapped. I'm just talking about an artist hating you. I don't want anybody to hate me for bad business. Because also, man, yo, if you've already made your money and then some... Let's make money together.

Let's make money to fucking gather. Yes. That's why sometimes I've been hearing these stories about like, guys, when they sign certain artists, It's like, yo, for me, if I sign a certain artist, why don't I just start a label together? So that's what... Especially if both of y'all are just starting out. Like, if you're a new guy, new executive, new manager,

and you got this hot new artist and y'all decided to come together and do business, start a label with this person. Instead of you starting a label and signing them as an artist. So what they do is they basically say, yeah, let's start a label. And then they go, you can give predatory contracts out to all your artists too.

So yeah, I'm taking advantage of you, but you can take advantage of them. And then when you don't fulfill your... contract. Yeah. The way that these contracts allegedly work is that all of their talent rolls up to you because they haven't fulfilled their contract. And the only reason I know this is because some do try to pitch me doing this comedians and I was like, I would never do this to comedians. No, because yeah, I get it. I would, this is too, I would love to help comedians. I love to put them on. I love to find vehicles where they could find success and build their own careers.

But I do not want some predatory contract where, like, these people are all signed and then, like, essentially owned by you in perpetuity. That's why I got, I know for a fact, I'm too fair. But don't you sleep better than that? It's better. It's better. Listen, I'm with you. But also, I'm a talent. So I understand what talent needs.

You know what I mean? But I'm telling you that there's other executives that tell me I'm too fair. Because they're used to the predatory shit. You know what I mean? And I'm not even going to say Yes, is some of it predatory, absolutely. But some of it is literally just I'm going to make sure

where in the best possible outcome for us. You know what I mean? But their best negotiation is when both parties feel like tops and bodies. You're getting fucked a little, you're doing a little bit of fucking. Yeah.

When you, that's the best type of negotiation when both parties feel like, who shit, that was a tough one. You know what I mean? Or like for real. Or both parties feel like they like the best contractor is the other side

it's like yeah we got one over on them and you're also like man that was advantageous to us so now everybody's stoked yeah yeah it's just rare I just know that this isn't the way y'all and by the way this is another lesson to kids kids don't really like to fulfill their obligations anymore

like they really don't this generation does not like the fulfill its obligation they're not about it They believe that shit don't mean nothing. Yeah. This has always happened. It's not some new shit that.

Yeah, and it happens when people are kids, but it's even worse now. Because I don't even know what Pushaistee's deal was. Well, but did you see who was arrested with him to bring it back to parenting? Oh, my God, did that? That was the worst part. That was insane. Yeah, I didn't understand that logic at all. He was, his dad went with him?

Yeah. Because I'm sure in his head, he's like, I'm protecting my kid. It sucks, but maybe in his head he's like, this is what I got to. do. I got to protect my kid. They said he called up like eight people from Memphis, his dad. It was another artist, big third. He called everybody but a lawyer. Should have called that lawyer. All the money that you spent getting all of those people to wherever y'all was at to do this to Gucci, man, you could have just hired a good entertainment lawyer, bro. And furthermore, before you even hired a lawyer, did y'all even try

having a conversation with Gucci? And the conversation can't be, you're going to let me out this contract or else. Yeah. The conversation has to be what Ross said. Negotiation. That's it. How do you negotiate? This shit is just sad, man.

I'm just tired of watching people, you know, who have great opportunities to just excel in life. Crash the fuck out. And I don't know if they're crashing out simply because they're just ridiculous, terrible humans. Are they truly think this is the only way they know how to do? something. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like it's almost like he don't he didn't he didn't know he had other options. Yeah. Because when I see stories like this I'm like well what was plan B?

You know what I'm saying? This was this plan A? What was the crazy shit that you you went now we can't do that exactly. This couldn't have been plan A was it? Was this plan A? This couldn't have been planning. So what was the other plans and did every single plan involves somebody potentially getting hurt, including yourself? Maybe. Whoa. You need better people in the room, bro. Tell me what the latest is with Offset, man.

I heard he got shot. I heard this shit too. I heard he got shot in front of a casino. I don't know what, and then somehow little TJ is involved. I don't know what the fuck is going. I have no idea. TJ, what about the fight at the casino? Fight who?

Rapper Lil T.J. bonded out of jail Tuesday. He's charged with disorderly conduct, accused of instigating a fight outside of the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino Monday night against another group of guys. Seminal police officers say the incident happened just after 7 p.m. by the valet area. TMZ got these pictures of rapper Offset getting into an ambulance after he was shot. Before that, according to TMZ, he was spotted taking a picture with a fan. According to the affidavit, authorities say Lil T.J. directed members of his party to start a fight. It goes on to say one of the males associated with the defendant pulled up firearm and discharged it, wounding one of the individuals. Asked offside. Little T.J. has his own version of what went down outside the hotel and casino. It was offset looking at me like this. You got a shot me. You. That shit shot me. To be clear, he has not been charged with the shooting. La, la, la, la, this is a riot. Semino police officers say the second person who was detained has not been charged, nor have they released any information on that person. We know officers are looking at trying to identify at least one or more people who may have been involved in Monday's incident. Offset was a member of Migos, but the rap trio disbanded after his cousin takeoff was shot and killed in 2022.

Offset was also married to Cardi B. They have three children together. He was taken to Memorial Regional Hospital, where two. told he is expected to be okay. Another one where it's just like, guys, come on, this is going to be way more expensive than you think. It's going to be way more expensive than whatever the person owed you. Way more. You understand what I'm saying?

Like, I don't know. Now, listen, I don't know if Offset got shot because he owed the debt. I don't know what the situation was. But if that is what the story is, whoever shot him, whatever Offset owed you, you're going to pay 10 times that. Lawyers. trying to beat this case. You, yo, the casino might sue him.

You shot somebody on the ground of the Hard Rock Casino in Orlando, Florida. They may sue you. Fort Lauderdale. Port Lauderdale. They might sue you. Because I'm sure you slowed business down for them. Absolutely. I'm sure they had to shut everything down and probably lock everything down while all of this was happening.

They probably lost millions on just people gambling right there. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Like future earnings. I'm not doing. Future earnings, yes. And, and, man, listen, they said they arrested Little T.J. Why did they arrest L'OTJ?

In connection with a fight before the incident, but have since released him on bond? Listen, I don't know, man. All this shit do is make me realize I don't even want to see rappers unless they're on Breakfast Club. Okay. That's like, I think, if I'm looking around, if I'm someplace and there's one too many rappers around, I'm probably in the wrong place. You got out of there? Depending on who the rappers are, though.

You want mature rappers. You want rappers in their 40s. Yes. I'm an adult rap. I'm an adult radio personality. I want to be around adult contemporary hip-hop artists. I get it. Okay?

I get it. Right? That's what the fuck I want to be around. I don't want to be around. None of this shit like this. I was in the casino this weekend in Phoenix. Ain't none of this shit happened. But you know what?

Wasn't no rappers around. You said it. Stop buzz, man. Wasn't no rapers around. What? This was a bad weekend for rapists. This was a bad weekend for rappers. All right?

It just sucks. It's just a bad weekend for rappers. But by the way, it's the younger rappers. Let's keep that in mind, too. Yeah. All right. It ain't the older rappers. The older ones are self-house stadiums.

He's not so young. Well, he's the victim here, Chris. That's a good point. He's the victim. He got shot. Okay. Like, the offset of the victim in this situation. Tell me about this.

the yay concert. You were there? I wasn't at no yay concert. I am not interested in going to a Kanye West concert. This Kanye's situation is interesting, though. Tell me. Because I didn't know he was back with Live Nation. Oh. Am I making this up? Somebody told me that this weekend, that Kanye West is back with Live Nation. Is that true?

I found that hard to believe. I thought so, too, but somebody told me that this weekend. Is it possible that he still owes them money on a touring contract? I would think so because his last situation, He, he, remember he left him on the hook for $100 million. Remember, Jay-Z got him back in the groove, and he was, I think, Rock Nation and Live Nation friended him $100 million for a tour,

and he never finished that tour. Cool. There's a version if he didn't pay that money back there. Like, nah, we need a recoup still, buddy. We need a recoup. It's interesting that Wireless Festival dropped him. It's interesting that all the sponsors dropped him because all of the sponsors had to know who was headlined.

They don't do that. Like, that's not the way these festivals work. These festivals let the sponsors know who's headlining, and then the sponsors come on board. Even an established festival that, like, you already know that you have to book out the venues way ahead. I would think so. I don't think so.

Things like Coachella, some of the acts get booked, like, really close to the date. Yeah, I think that's possible the sponsors know. Yeah, but the sponsors are always on deck. Unless this is a multi-year sponsorship, where Pepsi was already signed up to sponsor wireless for five years. Could be. If every year they're bringing in new sponsors, which is usually the case, even if it's the same person, they're still trying to get new sponsors. They usually let the sponsors know.

And the sponsors themselves, the brand safety people for the sponsors don't just say, yeah, we're going to sponsor you and you book whoever. That's not how that shit works. I think it is how it works. No. I think some of these shows get so big where it just like, all right, I'm sponsoring this show because I know how big this show is. Like, wireless Coach Lichich, Coach. Like some of these shows are just so big. You know there's going to be big actors.

Google did Pepsi know Kanye was the headline. They had to know. There's no way. Then why pull out? Bad press. But backlash maybe? They would already know that that's going to happen. They would have did it before it.

Just you could chat CBT. But maybe they didn't. But maybe they didn't know. Here's the reason why. If you just watch Kanye sell out these two spots in Los Angeles. Right? And you see all of these people coming up with watch Kanye West. If you're a Pepsi,

you're like, yo, let's see, maybe he's back. Maybe it won't be no issue. You know, let's see. Pepsi pulled their sponsorship of a London music festival after the festival revealed Kanye West's headliner. Pepsi withdrew his sponsorship at Wildest Festival. Following the announcement that diagnosed rapper Kanye West 48 will headline

the event, Pepsi has decided to withdraw his sponsorship of Wireless Festival. The brand was the headline partner of the festival, which would take place from July 10th to July 12th in London with Wes headlining all three nights. other sponsors, other sponsors including PayPal and drink brand Diageo have also pulled out of sponsoring the event following the announcement. Representation for Diagio cannot be immediately reached for comment. The sponsorship pool came after Prime Minister Keith Stammer publicly criticized the headlining choice.

That's what happened. Oh. That's what happened. It is deeply concerning Kanye West has been booked to perform at Wireless, despite his previous anti-submitic remarks in celebration of Nazism. And that's what happened. That's what happened. Prime Minister says.

The Prime Minister session. Well, you know, I think the U.S. That's what happened. That's what happened. That's what happened. Locked him from even coming to the country. Yep. Yeah, after the fact, yep. Yep. Wow. That's crazy. I mean, is it?

What's crazy? He's not convicted of any crime. He's just... Man, because you all shut the fuck up. No, but I'm just saying... I'm so sick of y'all not convicted of crime people. What you mean? It's not about being convicted of crime.

Andrew, if somebody came in here and took a shit... Listen, if somebody came in this studio, he took a shit on the flagrant studios and then grabbed the shit and started throwing it at all your staff and throwing it at Alex and everybody else, would you ever let that motherfucker back in here? But that's a soul.

Huh? That's a soul. It don't matter. The person did something to offend you. All right, fuck the shit in the throwing in. If somebody came in here right now and said, fuck you, Andrew. You suck my dick, you pussy.

I don't fuck with you. You a piece of shit, blah, blah, blah, this and that, whatever, whatever. Get the fuck out my studio. Yeah. Which, you own WTF. If somebody came in there, you and fuck you, Alex, you piece of shit. Fuck you in your trash-ass studio. You ain't shit.

Then got on social media and disparage WTF. Fuck WTF. They ain't shit. They pieces of shit over there. Don't nobody go over there and support them. Would you ever let that person back in your studio? No, I wouldn't. Okay, then.

So what are we talking about? Another thing out, the way that you could frame. it is, like, how many British people lost their family members fighting against Nazis? Like, so if you're welcoming and headlining a festival in a country where hundreds of thousands of people were murdered, you know, women and children, bombed, like, you know, dads, brothers, uncles, grandfathers killed at war. And now all of a sudden, this guy's head like, I would imagine Britain might have a little bit. Now, we fought the Nazis too, but they weren't fucking, what is it called?

What is that bomb shit that they were doing in Britain? They had the Blitzkrieg. The Blitzkrieg wasn't happening. They had denotification. Right. But there's also this strange history of British rock stars in the aftermath of that, the 70s and the 80s. So the punk movement, they were kind of embracing the Nazi attire as a rebellious act.

David Bowie also very much. Also, you've got the prince, whatever his face. Harry dressed up as a Nazi. SS. Or an SS soldier in a high. Halloween. So it is a slippery slope. It's like the prince could dress up as a Nazi for a Halloween party. But when Kanye is spouting the Nazi propaganda and saying he loves Hitler and he's doing all this anti-Semitic shit, he can't perform at the Wildest Festival. No. And he did apologize.

Not trying to make the case for him because I don't fuck with him, but I'm just saying he did apologize. He tried to write the wrong that he did. Listen, I don't, here the thing, whenever you offend somebody, I tell people this shit all the time. This is why I free you. speech is not free. There is a price. He sold swastika shirt. Yes. Like, let's do it. No, no, no. There is a, there is a price to every word that comes out of your mouth. So if he says something that makes people not want to fuck with him and they got the power to be like, nah, we don't want you here. Right. Now, we don't want you there. That's on them. Right. I was shocked that he was able to get SoFi Stadium to agree. Like, I'm so curious what, what that's about. Money talk. Money talk. Yeah.

Listen, I saw black people saying this week, I saw black people saying, why are black people being so forgiving of Kanye? Waring the white Lives Matter shirts, you know, talking down on George Floyd, the noncing Black Lives Matter. I mean, listen, black people are, some black, I'm not going to say all black people, some black people are forgiving people. And people just love Kanye West. And by the way, it wasn't like it was just black people at the SoFi Stadium. But when I saw that question, I thought that was a good question that might need to be. answered by somebody. Like, like,

because he haven't made no apologies to black people. Don't you think there's a sense now that whatever he says is just for shock value and there's not a lot of deep sentiment under it? He's a provocateur. It's almost got like a Trumpian kind of vibe to it where he's just going to say whatever.

Right? So, Chris, you don't accept that from Trump. Exactly. Because the stakes are higher with Trump. Kanye doesn't affect me. I don't give a shit. That's not true.

The ADL said that his rhetoric increased anti-Semitism by a huge number. I don't know if that's true or not. That's like out the window now. That's so far down on the list of concerns. Like, I mean, I think it's very interesting. If you had told me five years ago a major artist could release a song called Heil Hitler, and that wasn't the end of their career?

I would have said, no way, but here we are. Listen, all I'm simply saying is this. Everybody deserves grace, right? but I'm also not in the business of telling people that were offended what they should and shouldn't be doing because I know if you offend me, it's fuck you for them. There's certain people out there right now that have done things to me that I know I'm never fucking with this individual ever.

Yep. Ever. So do you make a distinction for an artist? Because I think that's the key kind of point of this, right? Like we all have certain artists that we appreciate their art, but we don't agree with them as people. And are you able to make a distinction? Is Heil Hitler art?

I don't think anyway. No, it's not. I think, like, can you enjoy the music before he went? Not as I said Hail Hitler? No, no, he said before. Of course. We all, yeah, yeah, yeah. But Bowie, Bowie did go through a Nazi stage.

Like, that's real. Y'all are missing the point, though. If I own these venues, if I'm the prime minister of a country and I don't want you here because you have offended me and my people you ain't coming here. I'm cool with that too.

But I think he should still be able to say it and then just live with whatever the consequences. These are the consequences. I think Australia said that Candice Owens couldn't come. Yes. But you would be okay with that? Say if you said something on the radio that offended the prime minister of the UK

and you feel, hey, I have freedom of speech, I can voice whatever I want to voice. you would think it's okay for them to not like you're in me. I probably can't perform in China. Listen. I'm being dead serious. Like, I probably can't perform stand-up comedy in China. Me neither.

Can I go there? Maybe, but yeah. My free speech wasn't intruded on. Yeah, you were able to speak. I was able to say what the fuck I want to say, but there's not freedom of consequence. Also, they don't have free speech in it. That's, free speech is only in America. In Canada, they have freedom of expression.

but they don't have freedom of speech. Like you could dance it or whatever. Really? No, I don't know. But like there's different limitations. It's a different level. I think they have stricter libel laws than in the U.S. So it's like this is a specifically American thing. And I think they were kind of projecting on the rest of the world.

Like, oh, don't you believe in this. You're Western democracy. Yada, yada, yada. But like they don't. They got different, they got different viewpoints on things. And low key, like America, we've kicked people out for their viewpoints, right? Like, wasn't the Trump administration kicking people out? Because they're like, yo, you support.

Gaza or you support? Yeah, at one point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, there is this, there is this feeling like if you don't get along with whatever the status quo is, now I feel like the status quo is supporting the atrocities of having Gaza, but like the powers that be

don't feel like it. You know what the problem is? People really think that there's no consequence to their actions because it is shit right here. That's true. Y'all think that y'all can get on, because you've never been punched in the face, because you've never been fired,

because nothing has ever happened to you, You think that you can just get online and talk and say whatever you want and not have to deal with it. Then when you get beat up or shot or they don't want you in their country or they don't want you in their venues, now all of a sudden it's like, I should be able to say what I want. Who the fuck told you that? Yeah. And I think people also might feel that way because when you see Kanye perform like he does and then he can go to SoFi, still get Live Nation back, still sell it out two times. It's like, hey, you know what?

Maybe you can. Maybe you can. No, maybe you can get some of the people, some of the time. But you're not going to get all of the people. And that's part of dealing with the consequences of your motherfucking words. I've had venues cancel on me for far less. Yeah. I have venues canceled on me because I said COVID came from China.

But it did. They ain't apologized. You know what I mean? Like, at a point of time, that was the rest of the- It's named after the lab that it came from. My boy, my boy, my boy. I know. But in that time, a venue made decision.

I can't do nothing about that. And then you can do about it. A private venue. So what do you do moving forward? You either say what the fuck you want to say or. Or you watch what you say. Exactly. Because you want to reach a broader audience.

There are other places he could perform in Iran right now. He would sell out everything in Iran. Lebanon. He could sell out anywhere in the Middle East. Then listen to that Kanye song on full volume. By the way, Kanye is a lot of. Kanye is a person who never really had to deal with consequences until now. These last few years, you're watching Kanye West have to deal with the consequences of his words and actions.

And that's his battle to fight. He got to go through that. He know what he said. He know what he did. He know who he said it to. He know who he did it to. So he got to eat that. So we get to see how important it is for him to be free and say what he wants.

Is it more valuable than money or is it not? And that's the, that's the craziest part about the Kanye West situation. What did he actually say? There's nothing he said that was of value. There's nothing he said that was thought provoking. Like nothing. It's not like he actually made a stand. But that's always common.

But that's my point. It's not like he actually made a stand and said something that really like, oh man, you know what? He's got a point. And that actually was a good point. And it's wrong that he's being punished for that good point. No, that never happened. He was just repeating a lot of the bad conspiracies that people say online.

It was bullshit and it's fucked up and now, you know. The guy made a song called Hell Hitler and said he didn't want nobody to listen to it. The merch with the swastik is crazy. Y'all crucified a Russell way more than y'all did coming. You know what I'm saying? Like, y'all crucified him for saying even Hitler was heaven sent. Kanye gave y'all hell Hitler. God damn.

The Russell ain't give us runaway, man. It's a runaway. By the way, now, can we talk about that? Now, let's talk about that. Let's talk about people. That's how powerful music is. Not even just music. Some people's art was so historically good.

You're right about it. And did something to us emotionally that you ain't letting that shit go. How many people can get away with murder? literally because of their art. How many? Who are the people? I mean, everybody. If you've made a classic anything, a classic anything and people have an emotional investment to you,

especially during your formative years, it's hard to let that person go, bro. It's hard to let that person go. It's also like a scientific thing. It's not even really in your control. There are studies that show like around the age of 15, 60, 17, the music that you listen to the most at that period kind of gets embedded in your brain almost. Yes. And you can't, you're kind of attached to it emotionally for the rest of your life.

And that's the thing. It's not even that you're attached to the artist to Chris's point. I just think you're attached to whatever you was doing during that time. Yeah. Whatever you felt during that time is what you're attached to. Yeah. And even if somebody like Kanye West or, you know, whoever it is goes down. flames, you're still thinking about that moment in time.

You can't let it go. This music will always bring you back there. So it is kind of selfish in that way. It's like you're really protecting like the way you felt. You're not really protecting the guy. That's true. That guy just made you feel the way and you don't want to not feel that way when you hear this music again. So you're like, well, he must not be that bad because I want to keep feeling this way. And that's right. And things like concerts take you right back to that place. That's why all of these concerts with all these older artists hit so hard. The nostalgia, man. Like, you can go to these concerts and watch your favorite artists sing your favorite songs.

You're probably with the crew that you came up with when y'all went to these concerts, when y'all was 15, 16, 17. It's like, yo, that shit means something. That shit matters. So it's not even necessarily about the artist. I just want to go feel that feeling. You know what I mean? I want to feel it again.

You know what I mean? I want to feel it again. Yeah. That's with everything, bro. That is with everything. Yeah. if you can get people to, where they personalize what it is you're creating,

they will protect, they'll protect that no matter what. And music just has a profound effect, man. It definitely does. Music is different than anything else. I don't even know if people act like this with anything else. Like maybe with sports,

you care so much about your team. Like you're willing to look past the fuck shit that some of the athletes have done. Clear. Sports. Definitely sports. Definitely sports. Let's pay some bills, mate.

All right. let's get back to this show. Have the Kyle Walker, church announcements? Yes, sir. I'm coming back on the road, man. Oh. I just booked some shows. Get this hour together, man.

Very excited. First of all, shout out Salt Lake City, man. That was awesome. We announced the show. They sold out. The weekend sold out immediately. So thank you guys so much. I love that fucking place.

It's incredible. Same for Tampa, man. Tampa Bay. We're coming there. I'll let y'all know. But if we're going to add some more shows to those weekends, man. And then by the time this comes out, we will be announcing Denver and Virginia Beach.

So you can grab tickets for those at theandrewsholtz.com, go get them quick. And I just really appreciate everybody who's been coming out, man. This is exciting to get this new hour, this new hour going. I was responding to some people online that they were like, they would DM me, like, you go to tour, when you're going to come back, and like, I can't, like, permanently be on the road because then I feel like the material doesn't reflect the changes of my life.

Yeah, you've got to live life. And that is how I try to make sure every new hour isn't, like, the same version of an old hour. And I feel like sometimes in comedy that happens because you're not living and realizing the things that, like, have changed for you. At least that's my process with it. So I did some living,

and I'm excited to come talk some shit, man. Because you care about, about the craft of stand-up. I do. As opposed to just getting on stage, doing some crowd work, you know what I mean, treating like it's a podcast for an hour. Yeah.

Oh, I hate you guys. I love, I do love crowd work though. I know, I love crowd work. But I hear it just saying, like, that can't be the only thing you do for hours straight, yo. People are spending their harder money. Yes, man. You've got to give them a show.

Yes, man. And I've always tried throughout my career to make sure it's something special and worth their time. And anybody who says, well, you don't have to do anymore. That's why you're a special won't be special. Okay. Fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival happening Saturday, April 25th in Atlanta, Georgia

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Let's go. Listen, we put out a lot of books on Black Privilege Publishing, and this is a book where I want to, I was like, man, I wish I was part of a book club. Ooh. Just because I want to discuss it and I want to talk about it because that era of the 90s meant so much to me. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And I'm watching, like, people that have read the book and everybody. saying the same thing. It's just like, it was just bringing me back to that time. Plus, people don't know what Arsenio Hall fucking went through. They literally went to him, they came to him and said, Arsenio, you're too black. Yeah. They literally said his show was too fucking black. Yeah. And he could have easily conformed and started to do things that were, you know, a little bit more digestible to mainstream America because he had a mainstream audience. He was like, no, that's not what I want to do. Why did the Arsenio Hall show stop? He quit.

Wow. Everybody doesn't know that. Everybody thinks that he got let go because he had Minister Farrakhan on. He actually resigned. And he put the resignation letter in the book to let people know. I'm not bullshit about this. Because when he first told me this story, I'm like, I've never, I mean, he's, I seen he was 70 years old.

So, of course, I'm much older than me. But I'm like, I've never heard it. I always heard that it was because of Minister Farakhan. He actually resigned because he didn't like the way that the executives kept coming at him and how they were trying to tell him to do things. By the way, can we talk about that? Can we talk about how easy it is to walk away instead of, you know, fighting these motherfuckers? Does he regret walking away?

No. Not even a little bit. Good for him. Not even a little bit. And Arsenio's lived a great life. Not only did he go on to do film. They bought the Arsenio Hall show back at one point. You know what I'm saying?

and he just does stand up. He lives the life he wants to live. God bless. And he's 70 years old. Looks great. Man, man. So go pick up our senior hall a memoir available everywhere you buy books now

and go get his audiobook. He read his own audio book as well. So I'm waiting to see, you know. That is a cool experience. What? I think that this generation will probably take for granted. Talk to me.

Monoculture? No, not monoculture. Bioniculture is interesting, I think. But like, the fact that you get to read somebody's autobiography, sorry, that you get to indulge in someone's autobiography and hear their voice. Oh, yeah. They are telling you the story that happened to them. Like, we never had that luxury growing up, right?

Like, maybe someone read an excerpt of it at Barnes & Noble. I don't remember with no audiobooks when I was growing up. Well, no, there wasn't audiobooks, but meaning like you could have gone to like a book, what are those things that you do? A book reading. Yeah, book reading. You hear a chapter or whatever, and they're talking about your life. But I remember listening to your book.

I think it was your first one. And I was at some hotel because I was doing shows that weekend. And I was like, oh, this is such a cool experience because I'm hearing Charlemagne tell these stories. And, yeah, I'm trying to think of like, imagine the fucking autobiographies that we read growing up. It was a big deal when I read my book. You know, so funny you bring that up. there's a lot of books that don't have audio because of that.

Because they came out in the time where there was no audio. So it's like who's going to read fucking George Washington's autobiography? The autobiography of Malcolm X just got audio a few years ago. And who did the voice? Lawrence Fishburn.

And does... So that's the other thing you do. Like, would you rather get an impressionist to do the voice of Malcolm X? Or would you rather have somebody that was like esteemed read it? Well, you know what it's going to be going forward. It's going to be.

AI. Yeah. 100%. Absolutely. Absolutely. Jake Paul wants to do blackface. Andrew's all for it. You could do whatever you want.

Jake Paul's feelings are hurt because of the Drusky's kid. Let's hear this audio. Why did you say I'm for it? Because you're a joke. Over the last couple of days. Calling makeup artists and I was going to do a response to this. and like go and do like the full on darker. Yeah.

And do it and just do it back because why not? Yeah. Like are we on the same playing field? Like I think if you, if there's a way to do it. Oh, singing in well, even this sentence. But if there's a way to do it, I've been here many times. If there's a way to do it, I think, yeah. I think there needs to be some black support for.

the character, I think. Like I'm saying, like, say if Drewski or I'm trying to think of somebody else. Charles Barkley. Charles Barkley. If you got one of those guys to be like, hey, Theo, I want you to do this skit with me. Let's do this. But still, that's pussy now. You think it is?

Yeah. To me, there's a level of, like, doesn't that make us more? like prejudice. Oh, like more prejudice? That makes us, if we have to partner with someone, Drewski just dropped this. And he's done it a couple of times, actually. I fucking love it.

This is great. This is how humans should be. I agree. We should fucking make fun of each other. And I don't see in color. I see in truth and comedy. So like, what are we talking about? So you're saying that.

What era are we living? See, I never even heard the clip. I just saw the headline. Oh. No, I just saw the headline. That last part, what he said, is exactly how I feel. And the reason I feel like that is because I'm born in 1970 fucking eight. There we go.

Okay. I grew up in an era where men wore dresses in the guys of comedy. Men pretended to be gay in the guys of comedy. Men pretended to be white under the guys of comedy. You had white comedians who pretended to be black under the guys of comedy. that's it. Like my feelings never got hurt

over any of that shit. Yeah. Like when I saw Robert De Niro Entropic Thunder I didn't get my feelings hurt. You know what I'm saying? Or like Howard Stern? When I saw Howard Stern

Now Howard Stern was a bit wild. Howard was wild. Howard was wild. Howard was wild. You know why Howard was wild? Because he was actually doing blackface. Yep.

Like he was actually doing the black face that they used to do this is how far removed menstrual. That was wild. All right. So this is how far removed we are from like what black face is.

I think like a lot of Gen Z that's watching this, they actually don't know what black face is. Let's give them the actual definition. So there was a time in history where they wouldn't even let black people play the incredibly racist caricatures that were made of them in cinema. What is it, Amos and Andy or something like that is one of the... Amos and Andy. And it wasn't just the makeup.

No, no, no. It was the character. They would take on these, what they called stereotypical characteristics. It was called the Sambo character. Yes. And what they would do is they paint on these incredibly stereotypical lips and all this stuff. And like the character- They portrayed him as lazy, ignorant.

Exactly. So like, so the idea of blackface wasn't simply, which is probably what Gen Z thinks, it's just painting your face the color of black people. No. It is, it is purposely antagonistic and insulting. Mocking black people, insulting black people. Now, we can mock people and insult people of different races, like I've made a career of it. But it doesn't mean that this is a different thing.

And the reason why I'm trying to say that, like, Gen Z doesn't really understand what it is, is because when we've seen a Robert De Niro, not a Robert, what's his name? Robert Downey Jr. Robert Downey Jr. When you've seen other characters kind of do this in different things, it doesn't get this big negative reaction because it's not the minstrel. show that it was portrayed before. Now, he actually was pretending to be a blackbird.

Right. So the things have gotten muddied. Or Jimmy Kimball when he did Carl Malone. Exactly. Exactly. He's not even being black people. He's being Carl Malone. Carl Malone. Right. Now the things have gotten muddied and there's young people who are just like any time you paint your face black. That is blackface, which is not. And therefore it's insulting and racist and hateful and all these other things. So there's just a lot of like information that doesn't kind of people aren't sharing the same

information. We're using words that we probably should. I don't know the actual definition of this. I think what Jake said at the end is what you're saying. This is kind of what we all want. We want to make fun of each other. We want to tease each other. We want to be able to insult each other in a way where like it can be appreciated. And the best version of it is you see a guy doing it and he maybe is not part of your culture,

but you see them like noticing certain things about your culture. And you're like, ooh, that was fucking cool right there. That was great. I want you to get mad at me because I pretended to imitate you. Yeah. and you were offended by it because of how I was imitating you. Like when Mike Tyson walked up on Keenan Ivory Wayans, they say in a club. Yeah.

He didn't like the way Keen and Ivy Wayans portrayed him. Right. But if it's something that's actually funny, I think it's a little bit different. I'd rather you just be mad at me. The problem with this is that if he does exactly what Drewski did, Drewski said, hey, this is conservative women in America. Yeah. So now if Jake does, hey, this is black da-da-da in America,

that is the definite, and then he portrays them in a silly, dumb manner. If he portrays them in a get, if he pretends to be sexy red, and does that, that's going to be a problem. Well, if his idea of black women in America,

and I'm not saying this is a doctor sexy red, I'm just telling you what the optics would be. If he said I'm portraying black women in America and it's sexy red or all the, you know, different rapper women, it might be an issue. But what if, what if he was straight? By the way, I'm just giving him ideas. I know.

I want to see if he's stupid enough to do it. What if he pretends to be Michelle Obama? Powerful, strong, well-spoken. Or what if he was like... In charge? So Drusky did conservative... No, it wouldn't be. Drusky did conservative white women.

Yep. Right? No, conservative women in America. He never said white. Sorry, sorry, conservative women in America. If Jake did progressive black people in America and then dressed in like kind of imitated Don Lemon. Are people that upset at it?

Yes. If it's based on a specific person. Like, clearly, Drusky was talking about... He should say Don Lemon be like then. Well, no, I thought what was smart about Drusky's thing is that, like, we all knew who he was talking about, but he didn't say it to him. Did we know? I know you're doing this thing where it's like, it was that other big girl.

That she was the one! Sure, but the staring was Erica. Sarah was Erica. That was Eric. So that maybe it doesn't have to just be Don Lemon. It could be an other version of that. But, like, then I think he has a little bit more protection because it's targeted. It's not going like, here's this uniform stereotype about black people and I'm insulting it.

It goes, here are these black people that we know and I'm teasing that. You're right. If he does do the ghetto trope, then people are going to get upset about it. But he doesn't do the ghetto trope. People will still be upset. Because people go and be upset. But if he doesn't do the ghetto trope, I think there's more protection of because he's actually doing an impression kind of of of individuals in the same way that Kimmel did Karl Malone. And that wasn't a reflection on all black people's a reflection on car.

Well, now it's not going to work. First of all, it never would work anyway, but it's definitely not going to work now because the headline, Jake Paul says he's going to do blackface. Right. And retaliation, essentially, Tadruski, that's the headline. I didn't even hear what the fuck he said when he was like, yo, we should, I thought he was actually offended and he just wanted to get back. No, he's like, I love it. This is awesome.

But I don't know much about him. Is he a comedian? No. So then why is he doing it? Well, he's a provocateur. Okay. So maybe he sees it as a... I mean, there's no...

By the way, there's no way for it to work, Jake Paul. There's no way to work. All I'm simply saying is, I grew up in an era... I got a way... I got a way it works. I'm just saying... Can I get it? Can I go ahead.

Black boxers from Britain be like, and he dresses up as Anthony Joshua knocking out Jake Paul. Depends how he acts... Depends how he acts as Anthony. Dignified or, like, super Nigerian, or, like, Super Nigerian or whatever the fuck you want. He acts as Anthony.

Right? And he's the butt of the joke in a way because he's getting knocked out by this guy after he's talking shit. There is a way to get away with it. As opposed to doing Cory Bush and he leans into... Yeah, don't do nothing political.

Who's Cory? Who's Cory? Who's Cory? A female politician. Politician. Oh, don't do nothing political. And don't put black in the title. Because Drusky didn't say white, conservative women. He just said conservative women.

British boxers be like. Yeah. Yeah. But don't do it because there's still a history with blackface do not. Yeah, don't do it. But I will say, I agree, Jake, don't do it. But all I'm simply saying is I grew up in an era where people were absolutely positively made fun of everything.

Like, and living color ran the gamut. And it was fun. Yeah, Martin Lawrence, and this is the other thing, Martin Lawrence, Jamie Fox, they could dress up as women, do scenes with men where they're acting like they're trying to fuck the guy. Nobody ever was like, Martin, you gay. Martin, you were sellout because you went I never had that mentality

Some people were. We didn't know Tell me what was that discussion in the night There was always a discussion that they That came on much later That was Shepel on what was it? Oprah or something like that That goes back to Flip Wilson in the 60s

Did Oprah start that? No, it was Dave on some interview I forgot where he was trying to make you wear a dress or some It might have been Dave on Oprah I'm a conspiracy see theorists to a degree. Like when I connect dots that maybe shouldn't be connected, I don't know, but certain dots, like when I see that they put every black man

and the movie's in a dress at some point in their career, I'll be connecting down and down. Like, why all these brothers got to wear a dress? This happened to me. I'm doing a movie with Martin. Yeah. The movie's going good. So I walk in a trailer.

I'm like, man, this must be a wrong trailer because there's a dress in here. They come in. The writer comes in. I think he's a writer. He's like, Dave, listen, you got this hilarious thing where Martin's sneaking out of jail, so he disguises you as a prostitute. And he put this dress on. And, huh?

What? The prostitute. No, I'm not doing that. I don't feel comfortable with that. That should have been in a discussion. What? You don't feel comfortable with it. I mean, it's a hilarious bit.

All the greats have done it. So, well, if all the greats have done it, it's kind of hacky, you're right? So why don't we just not do it? Because I don't feel comfortable wearing a dress. Oh, come on, Dave. Listen, we got it all set up. We're supposed to shoot every minute you waste

cost this much money. No, the pressure comes in. And now I'm not wearing no dress, man. I'm funnier than a dress. Just give me something funny to say, I don't even wear no dress to be funny. What am I, Milton Burrell? You know, we're going like this.

And then finally, he leaves. And then, like, the director comes, Dave. It really would be great if you wear the dress. What is this? Brokeback mountain history. But that was a combo in the 80s. I mean, I remember. I don't ever remember it.

But by the way, that combo in the 80s didn't stop nothing. No. But the 90s gave you some of the funniest guys wearing dresses. We were all dying laughing. None of us were like, look at Hollywood trying to masculine

because it was a black produced show with black creators, black writers. In no way where they're like, oh, there's some like white executive that's not like, could you dress them in little skirts today? It was like,

nah, this is just funny. Actually, Arsenial talks about that in the book. What is he? I forgot that there's a character that he plays a woman coming to America. I totally forgot about that character. Yes.

Come on, bro. I want to, he said, when he said he wanted to fuck Eddie, so I want to fuck you. I forgot what the word was, I want to fuck you and your friend too. And I want to tear you apart and your friend too.

Like, nobody cares. How many comedians are imitating women in their, in their skits, right? They're acting like a girl. They're like, manorisms like a girl within a joke, right? Like, so within a joke, you could be a girl. The second you put on a dress as that girl,

then it's a masculine. It's like, Yo. Arsenio Hall. talks about how on S&L they had Dana Carvey used to do Arsenio. What was the character name?

I know what you're talking about. It was Carcinio. This is fun. This is wild stuff. You see this, Ed? You just do this. You go, whoop, whoop, whoop. And they go crazy.

It's just wild, weird stuff. Yes. Just whoop, whoop, and that's it. All right, all right. My name is Carcini. is going to be a party. Woof, woof, woof, woof, used to dress hip hop and all.

I don't think he did the black skin, though. No. Yeah, they didn't do black skin. This is smart. They didn't do the black skin. So my point is, once again, we come from an era where everybody did that to each other. Everybody, especially comedians.

So. They pay the price sometimes. And by the way, do, roll the dice, Jay. That's the, like, Ted dancing. You guys remember Ted dancing and all the goldberg? You, if you want to do it I'm not encouraging you to do it I'm not encouraging for you to do it

I'm not advocating for you to do it I'm just simply saying if you do it don't be pussy deal with the consequences to come with doing it that's all Yeah Oh I remember this

But Ted Denson actually did blackface This is blackface With whoopi You said what? He did it with Whoopi And Wuppie was his girl They were actually roasting Whoopi But nah

No. This is black. When you put on the white gloves, bro, with the black shoe paint and the white lips, nah, you wild. You really wilding. What else we got, man? What else we got, Chris? Bram-Bram-Bram-Bram-Bram-Brah. This just in, this just in. This just in. We got something new. Slued to my guy, Arsenio Hall, man. Arsenio Hall. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it.

Listen, and I know what people are out there saying, because y'all say this every fucking time, and it disgust me, it lets me know how much y'all don't know about shit. Y'all be like, everybody makes the New York Times bestsellers. No. Actually, everybody doesn't. No. And furthermore, we don't even know how to fuck people make the New York Times bestsellers list

because it's not based on sales, okay? Chris knows this. And by the way, you can Google it. There's so many articles about it. What is it based on, Chris? We don't know. They got their secret sauce. No way.

Bro, nobody knows what. Sales are a large component, but there are other aspects that they won't share go into the formula. What else could there be? I heard it's like location from when sales are coming in. That's part of it. Because if you just do it on sales, somebody could just be like, yo, buy a whole bunch in bulk so I can make the list. But now if you see sales coming in from all different places. So this is stopping the publishing companies from botting the botting the, exactly.

Or both buys, which is always the big issue that they try to shut down. Right. This is the publishing company realizes the marketing ability of being in New York Times a bestseller. So they go, we're going to buy 20,000 copies. Now you've got a New York Times bestseller. So if you see them being purchased from all these different places, it looks actually like unique people are doing it. I get that then. I get that as having a special sauce because otherwise it'd be too easy. That's right. And something's going to read this. It's not purely numbers like you just said, Alex. The list is curated. It's not just a ranking on Amazon. New York Times uses a confidential panel of bookstores and retailers and they wait certain sellers more than others to reflect broad natural interest.

So a book that sold, and this is just numbers, if a book sold 10,000 copies the right way, it can be the book that sold 20,000 the wrong way. And sometimes when you see the boat buys, you'll see it'll have a cross next to it on. Good. Young Times best sellers to let you know there was a lot of bulk buys. But they're cheating. That's cheating. That's the same as like when these artists like buy the streams. Yep. And it's like they might be real streams, but it's just a house and India that has iPhones painted all over the walls and they're just streaming the songs on stop for fucking weeks.

Both mine can actually disqualify you. Good. It should. In the old days with records, the record labels would buy 20,000 copies and then return them after the counting. Hilarious. Hilarious. Listen, Sluith Arsiniot.

Jess O'Don-Larious is up next. Hey. Tell death do we parent. It'll be out April 28th. All right. So go pre-order that right now. What else we got? What else we got?

Oh, go scroll back up to that? That's salute to Roe Connor, man. What's Roe doing? I just, I like Ro. Roe's not the most exciting politician, but Roe knows what to say when things are time to be said. What did he say here? Let's go to the videotape.

Let's hear it. As a human being and as an American citizen, I am relieved that Donald Trump has accepted a ceasefire and would draw on his threat to destroy Iranian civilization. But let's be clear. This did not happen because of Congress, which barely made a whimper. This happened because of the force of the American people. Not just progressives and liberals, but conservatives like Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Green,

and even Ann Coulter spoke out against the horror of threatening genocide against another people. This tells me one thing. The only thing that will save this country, the only thing that will save our democracy, is a broad populist social movement, anti-epstein class, anti-war, pro-war. Now, I will say this. It is wild that we live in a society where we have to say we need an anti-Ebstein class.

What was the other things he said, Chris? Anti-Ebstein class. Anti-Eftsian class. Anti-war. Pro-working. That is most humans. Yo, can I ask you a question? And this is a self I've been curious about.

We've been, like, very effective at, like, protesting things that are pretty horrible. You've seen these amazing protests around the country with ICE, like incredible organization and people out in the streets and people really mobilize

the No Kings protests, like incredible. Why is there, if nobody in America or the majority of Americans do not want this war, why has there not been an organized protest

simply against the actions? Oh, we're on right now. I think, I think, I went to No Kings. That's what I was a big thing. There's too many things row it up into one. Hold on.

No King's. is not an anti-Iran war protest, is existing protests about No Kings, which I appreciate, but this pre-exists, that predates the Iran war. But the branding is bad at a bit more. It's about him not asking Congress for shit

and just doing what the hell he wants to do. I know, but that's not, the question I'm really asking is, is it possible that the powers that be that are involved in the organization of these protests that are very important and very powerful are not willing to incentivize a protest against this war and are they some in some way supportive of this war?

I think it's too much going on. Ain't no too much going on but it's a nuclear option. No, no, I'm with you, but I don't think you can have one protest about one thing anymore. We had it with ice. It was one protest about one thing. No, that was no, that was no case. No, no, no, no, no. There were specific anti-ice protests.

This happened in Minneapolis. It happened in other places around the country. I know, Chris, that you've been attending them. So it's like, I don't, again, I'm just positive to the theory. The theory? I get what you saying. Is it possible that the powers that be are in some way, like, supportive of this? But hold on.

They have had the anti-war Iran protests over the last few weeks, though. They have. Chris, you were a professor. There's a lot of protests going on that we don't even know about. Chris, you are a professional. I brought you a gift. Thank you. What does that one from?

That's from my last protest. I don't even know what it is. Let me see. Oh, no, you got the chance. You got the fucking food of protests. Get the fuck out of it. All this shit going. on right now. And you're still on this scooter shit?

No, that's ice. It's an ice thing. And they got like, they got cards printed out in a whistle. So they're handing out whistles. I don't even loud. You couldn't even use that shit at a two short cause. I'll almost put my... Like, you know why I can't hear that shit? Almost blew into that shit. Let Chris blow it. That shit is not loud.

It is? Let's see, Chris. Hit it. This is the one they was handed out of the protest. Let's see if it's effective. Get the fuck out of it. Now, it's not like you hailing a cap. Now imagine 20,000 people with that going off at the same time. The shit is allowed and effective.

Yeah. 20,000. So we're avoiding my question. I don't, I see what you're saying. I don't sense that's what it is, just having gone to these things. I do, I will say, I've never liked the branding of no kings. There's something that kind of rubs me the wrong way. It feels like it's almost conceding something right off the bat.

That there is a king. Yeah. I do like the idea. And I go to all these protests because I think it's very important. I really struggle with them. Like there's a certain performative aspect of a lot of these protests that just kind of makes me uncomfortable. But I would, I do think the idea of a no war protest specifically would be very interesting because traditionally, if you look at American history, no war protests have very much always

been the territory of the left. And I think what you're suggesting is if there was. And seems uniting. They're literally happening today right now as you speak. Really? I googled it. Iran war protests today across the U.S. Over 60 protests against President Donald Trump's Iran war are erupting nationwide today,

Wednesday, April 8th, with anti-war protesters rallying against Trump's war threats and demanding Congress take action to stop Trump and bring U.S. forces home. Dozens of anti-war protests today in D.C., New York, Philadelphia, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Maryland are organized by the 50501 movement, a grassroots initiative fighting to uphold the Constitution and an end executive overreach and the answer coalition, a massive anti-war movement. The group's emergency protest today,

Dove, stop the war on Iran, follow a handful of protests in Philadelphia, New York City, and outside the White House in D.C. on April 7th. So, Chris, see you out to loop, Chris. I'll go to the next one. I invite my Republican brothers and sisters out there to join me. I'll have whistles for everyone. No, we won't have whistles because it's not an ICE protest.

That's right. There's one in Midtown today. Let me see what time it is. Chris, you can go out there with your whistle. President Donald Trump war on Iran is triggered protests across the country, including in New York. Where is it at? Where is it at? On Wednesday, 6 p.m. in Times Square. Who'll join me? Who's going to join me here? I went to know, King. He did? Yeah, the one in New York. Right. So, they have your question. There you go.

Yeah. And technically, this isn't a war yet, because, Congress hasn't voted on it and they have he has 90 days for to do whatever acts, whatever you want to call it. I don't think we need a yeah, I don't do that. Declaration of war in order to protest. No, I get that. But also the way he moves, it's like it could be over tomorrow by one of his tweets

or it can extend for months and months by some of his tweets. So you never really know when to protest. If you're in jail and somebody fucks you in the ass, whoa. And they don't announce that they fucked you in the ass. Are they fucking you in the ass? Are you getting fucked in the ass? Yeah. Okay. Hey, the fuck.

You need to vote to say, hey, this is a war. You know what I mean, like, to mobilize a protest and then what if? Right now we have a ceasefire. So technically, are we still at war? You're doing the what is a woman thing. No, but I'm saying. Don't you think that would like, don't you know what a war is, brother? What are you talking about here?

Right, right now we got a two-week ceasefire. Are we at war? Do we? Do we? I mean, according to, what they're saying? Not a couple hours ago. Does Alex not know he's answering his own question? No.

If they have a two-week ceasefire, then that means we were at war. But the ceasefire, the point of it, is to negotiate the ending to- But you don't wait until the two weeks and the war starts back. You start protesting now because you don't want the war. You got to keep the pressure on so that it feels imperative to end this thing once and for all. Yeah, yeah, that's all. Let's do some asking idiots. Chris, Taylor Gang isn't in today.

We on spring break this week from the Breakfast Club. Oh, really? Yes, sir. Oh, that's nice. So we ain't been in. You know who I saw earlier, man? I saw Teresa Caputo earlier.

You know Teresa Caputo? Psychic. The Long Island Medium? Oh, wow. Yeah. Did she get exposed or some shit? Wasn't there like a documentary about her? Did she?

I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else. Why? What's up? No, I just was with her earlier. It was interesting. What's she saying?

Interesting conversation, man. I definitely believe in mediums. I believe mediums have gifts. You know what I mean? All right. And no, I do. I mean, only because I've had quite a few conversations with mediums in my life. One of them, one of them was intentional.

Today with Teresa was intentional, but the one I had 20 years ago was not intentional at all. And all three of them have said things to me. I'm like, wow. You know what I'm saying? Like, and the first one I met 20 years ago, everything he said to me came true. Really? Oh, my God.

Everything. Everything. Literally everything. Even down to having daughters and I didn't even have no daughters yet. Like, everything. So, yes, I do believe there are people with gifts. Do I believe there's bullshit that is out there? Sure.

But I believe that there's people out there with gifts as well. Why wouldn't there be? Agreed. Yeah, like, why wouldn't there be? Like, why wouldn't God give people? gifts to where, you know, folks from the afterlife or the guides that are around us can speak through. Like, you think that they made the movie Ghosts way back when they came from somewhere. You don't believe it?

You're scared. You scared to sit with one. You scared to sit with one because you think that they might tell you something that you don't want to hear. It's not going to hurt. Elvis underscore Matiso, how do you feel about going back to the moon? Is it real or not? Nah, Elvis. You don't even think they're out there.

Wasn't real back then, isn't real now. Wow. Okay, let's talk about it. Yeah. So you went to the moon in what, 1960. 1979. You haven't been back since. With all the advancements and technology,

look how good these shit have gotten. Yeah. Now, say, you ain't got nothing greater that could get us back sooner, but you went there in 1969. But 2026, We just getting back. And they say we might not go back for what?

Another decade? Get the fuck out of here, yo. We ain't never been to the moon. We ain't out there now. I don't think because you don't go back. Like, I haven't been back to Cancun. But it exists. Why haven't we been back?

Because there ain't shit there. So what's the big deal about us being there now? I don't know why we're going. That's why I don't get it. Like, what is the advantage of going? We're not there, bro. Go back and look at the original moon landing from 19. And after seeing that movie with Scarlett Johanson and Channing Tatum, fly me to the moon.

You don't believe it. Absolutely fucking not. But what's the idea of this one that they went to see the dark side of the moon, right? Yeah. Isn't it all dark out there? No, they got the light. The sun's shining on half of it. I believe that humans can't fathom being so primitive, y'all.

Earthlings hate the fact, especially American Earthlings, that we just are not the most intelligent life in all of these universes and galaxies. What I do believe is that they're fully aware of UFOs and extraterrestrials, and I believe that, you know, there have been those of us in government who've been in contact with them, and it's an ego thing with them.

And those extraterresters are sitting back laughing, like, look at these motherfuckersers still lying about going to the goddamn moon and convincing their whole civilization that they really out here. So do you think that the space, spaceship even went into the sky. Do planes go in the sky?

I believe that we do have rockets that can get to a certain distance outside of Earth. Do you believe in satellites? I believe in the Jeff Bezo shit. The women going. Do you believe they went to space? Why don't you believe they went to space? Don't be sexist. Why don't you believe they went to space? It's not even sexist. I'll be honest to you.

I don't think that Jeff thought they were going to make a back. I thought he was trying to get out of that relationship and he was just like, let me do something nice from my girl and her friends. And then, boom, and then what a tragedy. That's what I think he was trying. It's, it's cheaper to keep her, but it's way cheaper to blow her up. And that's what I thought was going to happen. And then a miracle happened where they were able to get back. Listen, Neil DeGradity Tyson said he knows we went to the moon. How the fuck you know that, Neil. Yeah. You're just taking the word of some people that say they went there. Yeah. I just want to know, listen, okay, and by the way, everything we're saying is straight,

brilliant, idiot logic. I just want to know if we went in 1969, why haven't we been back since? Nothing there. With all the advancements in technology and why won't we be going back for another 10 years? This is nothing there. Does somebody got to tell me? Because to your point, once somebody discovered Cancun, people kill them. And kept going back and kept going back and kept going back. Yeah, if it's fire, you're going to go back. But I don't think they found anything up there. They say, allegedly it's a McDonald's on the moon.

Really? That's what the streets say. No, well, good for Ronald. It says some McDonald's on the moon. They say it's a space station on the moon. People who've actually been to the moon say these things. Only those of us who haven't been say it's nothing there. So Americans say it's nothing there.

The people who've been say that shit lit. They say it's popping. It says mad space stations out there, all type of different. species out there living in perfect harmony. Okay, they say it's a fucking McDonald's out there. Y'all forgot when McDonald's had the moon man. Remember that?

No? Why the fuck did McDonald's a little bit? That was the soft rollout. What year was that, Chris? The 90s. See, the people who were really been going, look it up. McDonald's Moon Man. There were people who really been going to McDonald's, they know what was out there. McDonald's, this was the soft rollout. We thought this was for us? No, this was for the moon.

This was for let the people... Back to night. That was him? Mac the motherfucking night. He was actually a crescent mood. That was a rollout and endorsement for everybody. Wow. What the fuck was really going on on the moon. Now you're on it. And who really went up there on a regular basis. You're on it. Okay. That wasn't for us. We thought that was for us. No. That was for people who make regular trips to the moon, motherfuckers. Shout out to Mac tonight. Okay. But no, to answer

the question, I don't believe that nobody's out there. I don't believe that we've been to the moon and I don't believe we're out there. Nah. Okay. Okay. Okay, okay, let me give me another question. Just you believe so much. Let me ask you another question. Let me ask you another question. Why can't they land on it? They landed on it in 69 but can't now?

Yeah. Now they just want to hover around it. Well, what are they going to do there? Yesterday they went out of community. They lost communication for 40 minutes. I don't think we landed the first time, but I do think this time we are there. Like we did circle it.

We circled it before the Apollo mission with Tom Hanks circled it. I don't believe none of this shit. Yeah. I don't believe it. Don't believe it. You believe the first moon landing? Yeah. I don't believe it.

Why? Sending that. Circling I might can get with. Obviously we circled it. Circling that I might can get wood. Landon, get the, nah. Sending that live footage. It's delayed.

Nah, come on. I mean, it's just sending it, like, do you believe in satellites? If you believe in satellites, then the moon is a satellite. That's way farther than our satellites are. The moon is a satellite. But what's the difference? I'm just saying back in that day, I don't think we had the technology to

I don't believe me. I also, I don't even think the moon is that far. What? It's like 250 times where the further satellite is right now. Yeah, but like, distance is not that far. I don't think it's that far. It's far. It's far, far, far.

I don't think so. I think that's, that's a thing that we're. Right now, there's a space nerd right now who's spewing it. Well, fuck that space nerd. This is what I want to tell them. You're telling me that they landed in 69, but now they can just circle. That's the thing.

I don't think 69 was true, but I do think now is true. Do you guys think human history as as as old as people say it is? Well, what do you mean by that? Which people? Meaning the idea that human civilizations go back, what is it, like 6, 700,000 years?

No. There's other theories out there that like the whole world is like 700 years old. No. There's a Roman, I mean, a Russian version of that. Which 700,000 years is crazy. No, no. Civilization doesn't go back 700,000-ish. There might have been, like, humans, you know, in our, like, more or less current form.

But, like, civilization goes back, what, like, 10,000 years? Yeah, I mean, 700,000 years is a long time for God, not that I've gotten the recipe all the way right. I'm just saying, like, I'm just saying, 10,000 years, five to 10,000 years ago, and he still ain't quite got the recipe right? Yeah, but what if God likes the reality show? Like, you don't, you don't put rational. actors and the reality show. It's the housewives, right? Like, do you think when we're creating,

like Andy Cohen is creating all these housewives shows or whatever, do you think God is like, man, he really knows my shit? Man. God, damn. Because that's what this is. Yeah, because really, if you're God, right, and you really just want to keep everything above board, you stop adding the free will.

You treat the free will like the fucking cornstarch. So, you know what's a little bit? Yeah, I don't need none. Oh, none? No, no, no. What's that shit that rob it up? Can you want to get rid of? Red die.

Red die, all that. Get rid of no free will. Okay, give them no free will. You'll get the recipe just right. Ooh. What if free will is what gives it the flavor. You need the flavor. You need the flavor.

And it's an entertaining show to watch. Oh, my God. We've been delivering nonstop entertainment for a few thousand years, man. For 10,000 years, bro. I mean. I wonder what was his best season. What was God's favorite season? Ooh.

What you think? World War. two was probably crazy. Nah, B.C. Oh, you're talking about like... Before I sit in my son and y'all was just trying to figure it out, like, ooh, for you. You know what I'm saying? Rubbing shit together, two sticks to make wood.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And somebody's like, you know, let's rub our dicks together and see what happens. What the time. Yeah. That's the Greek history. I got to...

Nah, he's had a couple little empires pop off that have been pretty crazy. You know what I'm saying? Roman Empire was kind of fire. Roman. Roman Empire was kind of fire. Ottoman. You know what I mean? Greek, Persian.

What if he started making the penises bigger so they stopped... I think that might have been part of it. What? No, no, I think you might be right about that. Yes, you know what I'm saying? No, he was probably, he was like, we got to increase these.

Yes, these keys are fitting these locks, so we got to make these keys bigger. Will's underscore treasure. Who would win in a fight? You right now versus you at 20 years old? I whip my ass. Which one? At 20, I went my ass at 20.

I'll beat the shit out of the 20-year-old me. Let me think. No, I think 20-year-old me is fucking me up. Because I was boxing at 20. So, yeah, 20-year-old me is fucking me up. 100%. I'm definitely fucking me up. I'm definitely stronger at this age than I was at 20.

But my workouts are different. Like you got the grown man strength. You got the grown-man script. The way I work out is different. You know what I mean? The things I know at 40 is different. I'm fucking me up at 20. Plus, I know me.

so I know exactly where I do not want to get it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I would even know what to say to me to probably put a little fear in my heart. That's a good. You know what I mean? That's a good one.

Straight up. Yeah. At 20? I'll fuck me up. That's a good one. I'll fuck me up. Yeah. And whispering in my ear.

Yep. Next question. I whisper in my ear. I was a Greek and a Roman in a past life. Nope. No, no, no, no. Arsenal LaVega says, at what age are men allowed to just be human?

What does that mean? I know exactly what he means. What does he mean by that? He means at what age are men allowed to take the mask off? And just beat themselves. And just be. We don't have to be what society says we should be as men. We don't have to follow any of that.

We can just be. I'm going to say 35. No, more. Higher? No. I think it happens in your 30. Well, I would rephrase the question a little bit often. You're allowed to just be human at any point in your life.

At what age are men comfortable to just be human? Is it different? Or stop giving it up up. Yes. I think kids can shake this up a little bit, but I think we're looking at 40 plus, bro. Yeah, I can see that. 40 plus.

Men allowed to just be comfortable being human at 40 plus. I think so. I think 35, you're still in the rat race a little bit. But you're still trying to, like, compete, figure it out, look fly. 40 and kids, you're like, man, who gives it fuck? That's why I respect those people who find themselves at a very young age. When you find yourself at a very young age and you're comfortable with who you are and what you are, that is a very good space to be.

I'm always skeptical with that shit, though. But I will say this. It's so funny I was having this conversation this weekend because I was talking to somebody and then I thought about something my daddy always said. My dad said that if a man who gets money, or get some like tremendous amount of success and, you know, forgets who they are and never knew who they were to begin.

So I do appreciate people who knew who they were prior to any type of success, any type of family. And you'll meet young people like this. It's usually society in the world that strips that away from the young person. Like the person is confident, they're secure in who they are, and then they get out there and people start telling them

what they're doing is wrong or, you know, the way they dress is wrong, the way they think is wrong, and then you start second-guessing yourself and questioning yourself, and that's when you lose it. You know what I mean? But there's people that never lose it. Yeah. And I respect those people wholeheartedly.

And I respect the ones who lost it and got it back, too. Yeah. But yeah, I think you do get it back like after 40. After 40, man. After 40. Yeah. I have no idea. Vijay Dugall says going to Japan solo and May,

what food spot should I visit? Anything else? I asked the Asian in the room. Chris, how many time you've been to Japan? Never. Andrew, I know you've been there. You got to go to the old fish market in Tokyo. Have some sushi there.

Go to the new one too because you can see actually, you know, where they're like putting out all like the big tunas and I think people bidding on it and stuff like that. But go to the old fish one. Yes, incredible. Really? Incredible. You got to have pizza out there.

Really? Really? Really? It's arguably like one of the best. Japanese, like, they've done doing their shit. So they're just perfecting other people's shit. So why you ain't give them props last week when we was talking pizza? I did.

You didn't say shit about Japan pizza. I did. No, you did. I've always talked about Japanese. No, you ain't talking about the Japanese pizza? You've said it before, but not during last week's coming. No, because y'all were talking crazy putting fucking Oxdale on pizza. They would never do something.

Imagine what they're doing that shit in Japan. What do you think they're putting on there? Oh, types of shit. Like what? Everything. That's not the same as Chinese, right? Nope. Oh, okay.

I know where you were going. I'm sorry, Jap. I knew where you were going. Why did you let me go? Why did you let me go? I might have enabled it. Why did you let me go? You shouldn't let me go.

You should stop me. Because you're my best friend. But you shouldn't stop me. You know what else is a man's best friend? A dog. What is the Japanese approach to pizza? Is it like a classical approach? I think what they do is they don't do their own version of shit.

They go, oh, this is your version of it. We're going to do the best version of that. Best pizza I've ever had is in Taipei for what it's worth. I think it was an outlier, but it was a Sicilian guy who married a time when he's women and moved to, and it was insane. Wow. Little nowhere spot, I couldn't believe it. Pizza? Pizza.

I mean, you go check out the pizza. I wish I knew the name of the spot, man. It's unbelievable. And then steak. They do steak, incredible out there. And not just wagg you. I don't even fuck with the wagg you like that. Like, it's just too, like, fatty and, what is the, when something's really fatty, what is that?

Gold. No, but what is the, it's too rich. Yeah. I don't like it. But if you go to a good spot out there and they got steak, run it up because it's going to be fire. And also go to one of their cocktail bars. They got great cocktails out there. And they're like cut the ice with a sword.

It's, oh, they're doing it. Japan would be my number one food stop if I could go anywhere. You're probably not wrong. I might do Japan this year. Why are you bullshit? You should. I really might. You should.

What else we got? Let's do one more, man. Let's do one more. Make it a good one, Mike. Make it a good one, Mike. Oh, that. That one to the right is interesting. What's that one?

What's the market say? We'll see. What that is interesting. Scroll up a little bit more than Chris. I don't want to read you. Okay. All right. Go back.

All right. Bar. 3 on. If animals could talk, which one do you think would be the most racist? Ooh, wow. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Coon? No. A raccoon. That's just the name of it. Coons would be. funny as shit. Coons would be like, why the fuck do y'all keep calling these sellout motherfuckers me? I'm the fucking Malcolm Mets to the goddamn wood. I'm the real one. Ask about me, man.

I got to walk around with a mask on because of all the revolutionary shit that I'm doing. The fuck is y'all talking about, okay? I'm out here eating out of trash cans because they won't even let me in the establishments in the motherfucking woods because I'm so motherfucking revolutionary and y'all out here calling people me. Nah. The fuck is wrong with y'all. The disrespect is crazy. It's these dears out of the motherfucking sellout. They are. Okay? They are.

Right? It ain't no motherfucking coons. Y'all should be out here calling these sellouts' dears. Okay? Fuck as you're talking about. They're out here getting shot by the white man every other day and they ain't never revolted. We're eating their trash. You see what I'm saying?

They're coming up on their property. You see what I'm saying? Taking them. Attacking them. Fuck you out of here. Who's the most racist animal, man? Most racist. Polar bands.

Yeah, the polar bears are pretty like white power for, sure. Why? Because they're so white? Yeah. And they get the commercials. You think they're all sweet and nice. And then they're like, oh, but the dark ones is the ones you got to watch out for. Yeah. Like dogs are low-key racist already. Like, you know what they do? They just do what they're told. Nah. Like sometimes they just bark at black people, bro. But they do that to white people, too, if they don't know you. If I got a dog on my property and you're just walking, they're going to bark. you think?

I think sheep. Hmm. Tell me what. Because y'all be fucking them. But you gotta see the wagon, though. But that's what I'm saying. Like sheep are probably like, hate white people.

These racist ass, rapist ass. Like, why do they always come? Colonizers. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, the black people never do this to us. Yeah, that's true. And they're so, and they're so.

And they're so. fucking racist, they don't even fuck the black sheep. They come out here and do this to their own. Says who. Yeah. Oh, oh, Lord. Oh, says who. Yo, what if the sheep... If you're fucking animals, you're not discriminating, man. What if there's a black sheep and the sheep see the white people coming? The white people are just fucking the white sheep. They're mad because they're not fucking the black sheep. And then the white sheep goes, see you fucking coons? And then the coons come out of the woods and attack the fuck the fucking. And then the fuck. fucking sheep because they're sick of this shit.

They're like sheep. Y'all know better. These humans may not know fucking better, but y'all know better. The sheep stay around. Like, they might want it. Damn. Like, yeah. What are y'all wearing?

This nice wool. Why are you dressed like that? Like, why are you dressed like that, man? You know? Shout out with Peter, man. You guys are doing the Lord's work. Are they? I don't know.

Shout out to Peter. I'm Scottish, man. What's the Peter C. Your name? Ingrid. Ingrid New Kirk. Shout out to Ingrid New Kirk. Shout out to her for you in a while, Ingrid.

Okay? Shout out to Ingrid. Save the sheep, Ingrid. The sheep getting clapped. We need to save the sheep. As always. If you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart,

you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant in this podcast. Thank you for listening.

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