The Brilliant Idiots - Mugglican Grans Prix

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

This Week on The Brilliant Idiots:Charlamagne tha God and Andrew Schulz are recapping their weekends—think family time, behind-the-scenes moments, and big vibes from the Black Effect Podcast Festiva...l. Expect highlights from dope performances, celebrity sightings (yes, Cam Newton pulled up), and some hilarious festival stories. From there, the convo jumps all over the place in true Brilliant Idiots style: Are concerts safe for pregnant fans? What the hell are the “Sperm Olympics”? Kanye West—genius or chaos? Elon Musk’s money moves—smart investing or risky business? They also get into deeper stuff like: The rise of comedians like Druski Why Hollywood’s scared of new voices Shedeur Sanders and how family dynamics shape athletes The real reasons agents matter in pro sports How capitalism’s shaping our lives—from job markets to parenting Whether you’re here for the pop culture takes, sports drama, or the occasional deep dive into economics and emotional intelligence, this episode’s got it all. Tap in for one of the most wide-ranging, unfiltered convos you’ll hear all week. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Pre Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB The Wind on Her Tongue - Anita Kopacz https://a.co/d/fWDancH I Lived to Tell the Story: A Memoir of Love, Legacy, and Resilience - Tamika D. Mallory https://a.co/d/7DoCtWX Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yep, Shalaman de God. Andrew Shoe. We are the brilliant idiots back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Heather Kyle Walker. Hello, sir, how are you? How was your weekend, man? My week was good, man.
Starting point is 00:00:10 What'd you do? Um, honestly, I don't, I don't remember doing anything. I wish I had like a great thing that I did. I hung out with my kid. I hung out my wife. Like, that is, that's my life, man. Yeah, I went loud. Why do I seem sad about that?
Starting point is 00:00:25 It was awesome. No, that's amazing. It was amazing. But I don't have like an extravagant thing to tell you about it. You shouldn't. Because the best thing is hang out of the family. It's the best and the safest thing. It is the safest thing.
Starting point is 00:00:36 You can't get married. Listen, I went to a flew to Orlando last Thursday because my daughter had a cheerleading competition in Orlando. But then Friday, I had to fly to Atlanta because it was the Black Effect Podcast Festival weekend. So I was in Atlanta Friday night. How was that? It was incredible. I was in Atlanta Friday night because we had like a little mixer, you know, and then Friday, I mean, Saturday was the actual festival. and then I got right back on a plane
Starting point is 00:01:01 and went right back to Orlando. How do you think I'm going to be sitting around Atlanta by my goddamn self without my wife and my kids? Hell fucking no. Yeah. It's pretty safe. You think it's safe?
Starting point is 00:01:16 After all the gay jokes we've been saying on this podcast? It's not safe. He's been flirting online every single week. Lauren said she went to somewhere there was a gay club. She was like every gay guy in there was asking about me. She said she was so excited thinking I was about to make a appearance. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Out of your goddamn mind. You are a gay icon. A gay fan. Am I? Yeah. I would love to be. I don't know if I am yet. No.
Starting point is 00:01:39 But I would love to be. I would love to be up there with the lady gagas of the world. How? Who? But see, they studs. See, the studs are like us. The studs are the homies, man. The studs are the homo, man.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Sluo to the no homo podcast. There's no homo podcast. Look at this sign they made. Look at this sign. I said, The Charlemagne Love Studs. He should sign the No Homo show. Oh, like sign it, sign it to his.
Starting point is 00:02:08 The Black Effect. Are you going to sign it? Listen, listen. Listen, I don't like to discuss business, you know what I mean. I see. I don't like to discuss business on platform. But shout out to the No Homo podcast, DJXL and Boss Brit. Shout out the Studs, man.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Yes. the show where all things are homo. You know what? Called the no homo podcast, but the tagline is the show where all things are homo. I love it. That's what our show is, too.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I just want to let you know. They had a hat. They got merchandise. What's her merchandise? The merch says, oh yeah, the merch says, I prefer Cucci. Love. Got our studs, man.
Starting point is 00:02:52 He kept trying to give me one. I'm like, no, I'm going to order it. I'm going to order it. And then I was just sitting there thinking to myself, you, walking around Atlanta with an I prefer Cucci hat is probably the biggest way to make people think you don't. Because why would you have to announce it? That is a meek-mill behavior right there.
Starting point is 00:03:11 That is a little bit meek. Now, I don't know this is like the meek, but that is a little meek right there. You can't wear the I love pussy shirt without people going like, that got like dick in his mouth and butt. Why are you walking around Atlanta saying, I prefer Cucci? Why do you got to announce that?
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah, that's like a maga hat. Now, for the studs, it's all good. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. But for me, it is like a maga hat. You know what you're saying? It is.
Starting point is 00:03:31 A bag of hat. You're like, that's not the only thing I'll make red. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? But a little salute to everybody who came to the Black Effect podcast festival. It was a fantastic event, man. We have really created a fantastic community that comes to the Black Effect Podcast Festival every year.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Bravo. Bravo you guys. People that have came there and they're like, oh, we've been here three years. We've been here to all three years. Decisions, decisions. did a fantastic job, Mandy and Weezy hosting. And the only thing about it is it's always the week or two prior where people act like they all of a sudden want to be on board.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So salute to my guy, Cam Newton. Cam was like, you, I need the Funky Friday podcast there. So Cam pulled up with a funky Friday podcast with Portia Williams. Can I say something about Cam Newton? Please. I cannot imagine having to try to tackle him on the football field. Have you ever seen Cam Newton in person? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I've been around a lot of big athletes. It's a big guy. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Do we talk about LeBron being a specimen? Yeah. Cam Newton is a specimen, bro. Cam is like, what, 6-6?
Starting point is 00:04:38 2, 22, 3rd? Like, he's- No, yeah, it's different. It was different. The way he's built is like, yo, can you imagine trying to tackle this guy on the football field? Nah.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Like, Cam is just a huge presence. The only other person I remember seeing who was an athlete who had that. kind of presence, like size-wise, was Anthony fucking Mason. I was a, wow, so weird. Why did that come to your, I was thinking that when you said that. Because Anthony, I've never seen anybody built like Anthony Mason. God bless the dead.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I met Anthony was like, what, 6-9, 6-10. When he come to the comedy shows that you guys would do at Carolines? No, I met him at a comedy show. I met him at Rip Michael's comedy show. Yeah, he loved stand-up. He would always be at these comedy shows. New York legend. What?
Starting point is 00:05:21 That's so weird of all the athletes. Did you see how big he looked? Do you see how he looks? And I'm sure that there's other guys that are weirding him. Mason was, I don't want to say before his time, but like around that time, you started to get these guys that were, like, very skilled and big. So, like, Tony Kukot's wasn't built as big as Mace was, but Mace will bring the ball up. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 00:05:43 Like, he would run a point. It was this massive dude running point. And now that's very common in the NBA. But back in the day, it was, like, unheard of that a guy, how tall was Mason? Yeah, how tall was Mason? Yeah, how tall was Mason? Seven. But he was big.
Starting point is 00:05:54 He looked like the fucking powerful. but handle crazy. It was all circumference. That's what man, that he made them. All right. Too soon. Way too soon.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And he wasn't fat. He was just all circumference. Yeah. God damn. And that's how Cam is in the room. Like you were talking to Cam and you're like, for how old am I getting? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:17 You feel like a little kid? Yes. Yeah. So salute to Cam. Carrey Champion was there. She had a mom shumper on her show. Oh, nice. The Good Mom's Bad Choice is.
Starting point is 00:06:25 They had Drika Gates on theirs. RMB Money podcast, Tank and Jay Valentine. What was the highlight for you? Oh, man. You know what? For me, I probably the RMB Money podcast because I was interested to see how Tank and Jay Valentine was going on. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Sarah Jake's Robert, she always shuts it down. She had Toya Johnson as her guest. But I was interested to see what the RMB Money podcast would do because when you're an artist, like Tank is an active artist. Yeah. Like, Tank had a show that night at the Barclays that they sold out. So he left the Black Effect Podcast Festival to fly to New York to Brooklyn to do a sold-out show at the Barclays with Tyrese and Genuine, TGT. So I wanted to see what they were going to do.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And Tank, they show was so great because Tank comes out and he does a song. I mean. So he does one of his records. He comes out to slow. Do your strengths, man. He does that. So he got the crowd. Then he had Nyla just play R&B records for like 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:07:22 So the crowd is all into it. And then they sit down, chat for a little. while, bring out Jaquise. Jaquise comes out and does a song. I mean, this is... So now you talk for 20 minutes. Now you're just like, you're fulfilled. You got the whole...
Starting point is 00:07:34 You got a whole experience. The whole place in the palm of your hands. So it was probably watching the R&B money podcast because this is a podcast that I enjoy. Also really different. You haven't seen that in the podcast space. You haven't seen that. Everybody's a rapper.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Everybody talks to rapper. For somebody to have a show dedicated right, just to R&B? Or it's like... Or it's like there are people that are experts in these other fields that are trying to do a typical. interview show. And it's like, you don't have to do that. No. Bring your expertise into the show.
Starting point is 00:08:01 That's right. You're going to compete against somebody that's been interviewing people for 20 years professionally. It's not going to happen. But if you bring them into your world, now we got something. That's why nobody can fuck with the brilliant idiots. Because our specialty is being brilliant idiots. And now everybody want to try. We're naturally stupid smart.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Exactly. We've been doing this our whole lives. Our whole fucking lives, bro. We're intellectual retards. Yes. All right? This is how intellectually retarded I am. If you don't change this video off the wall,
Starting point is 00:08:30 I won't be able to concentrate this whole podcast. What is that? What is that? I think it's London or some shit. It's awesome that we have it, but I'm so easily distracted by shit that I'm like a golden retriever. I just keep looking at it.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Oh, I thought y'all was trolling Chris because when you first did it, when you first did it was mopeds and shit going by. Dude, it's so cool. The aspect ratio and everything is perfect, but I just can't stop looking at it. I've been getting moped video sent to me. Non-stop, right?
Starting point is 00:08:53 Non-stop, right? No, stop. No, stop. Thank you for all the concern. Hey there. Listen, let's do some all memes matter, man. So much. What do we got here in Taylor again?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Thank you so much. What we got, Taylor? What is AEO? I'm assuming it's something gay. Yo, Taylor, can we go right before that? Taylor tried to pretend. Kiana was very kindly, was like, hey, do you want anything?
Starting point is 00:09:17 You want a little snack or something from downstairs? And Taylor goes, um, I had a, she starts pretending like she has a misalibated. over the same thing. I just ate earlier. I don't know. What do they have? Maybe some chips.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I go, Taylor, what kind of fucking chips you want? And she just goes, give me the sour cream cheddar. Did it? Check right in your ass with God, you hungry of these sour drink chenters. Taylor is pregnant as fuck. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Like, she's at that point when you don't even ask for how many months she is. I'm just pregnant as fuck. How many months are you? I'm going to seven. What? That baby's going to be big, yo. And that's exactly why you're not going to the kind of.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I am going to the Kendrick concert. You're not going to the Kendrick concert. So you rather me pay for it? What do you mean pay for it? I'm going to go. If you go, you are going to pay for it. You need to sit down. I'm sitting down right now.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Be humble. Exactly. Take Kendrick's advice. DNA is the reason you're pregnant right now. If you really cared, if you really cared, you would be like, oh, this comes with me to the suite. I'm just be chilling in the sweets. No, because you won't be jumping up and down.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Why do you think I'm going to be jumping up and down? Because I've seen you at a Kendrick concert before. Oh, no. No, I'm pregnant. Why do you think I'm going to do the same thing? Damn. For real. It's going to be bad. You can't do it. You got to think about the baby. I am. What do you think the baby's going to be doing in there?
Starting point is 00:10:34 And he's thinking like, oh, should I got to go? No, the baby's going boom bap, beam bach. Exactly. The baby starts kicking like that in your stomach, then what? I'm used to it. What the fuck? Taylor open up. Do you want that? Do you want that? Do you want that? I'm used to it. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It's the crowd. You got to. Yo, you know what I... That's why I need to be in a suite and I'll be fine. No! There's people in the suite, too. Yeah, they could bump into you, God forbid. And you have to get to the suite. You got to get to the suite.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yes. It's a lot. Taylor, Kendrick, and Sither are not going anywhere. So I guess I have to pay for it. No, I guess you should just not go. I'm going. Why do you want to be around that many white people? You can be around 40,000 white people.
Starting point is 00:11:18 That's your dream weekend. That's how you want to spend the rest of your pregnancy, See, seven months pregnant. Yo, can I just say I just want to shout out everybody to watch the sperm Olympics. Oh, that's why I had a day. Okay, there was a sperm race this weekend. Really? And, yeah, they're doing this as like a league where they actually race sperm competitively.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Man, you know what, deport everybody. We have jumped the fucking shark. Yo, can I just say something? Why? I just want to say something. Yo, I never wanted something. I'm going to tell you something. This weekend was the first time I really wanted to call ice on some bulls.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I'm not going to lie. Don't give us power. No, I'm going to tell you why. Don't give us power. And I'm only going to tell you what. You know, we're at the airport. And, you know, we got the baby stroller, right? We got a three-year-old so we can't go down to escalator.
Starting point is 00:12:06 We got to go on it. No, we were at fucking Universal Studios. How could you? How could you confuse those studios? This motherfucker don't pay attention to shit. No, that's my life. My life was a blur. We were at Universal fucking Studios.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And we were at the Harry. Harry Potter, we were getting on the train, because you know, if you ever been to Universal Studios. It's so cool. Harry Potter World is amazing. Exactly. So you can get on the actual train, the Hogwart. Nine and three quarters, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yes. So we're at, we're on the train. We're getting on the train and we're about to get on the elevator to go down because we can't go down the escalator if we've got the scroller. In this couple, not not, not not. Not speaking. No English.
Starting point is 00:12:47 You know what I mean? Just cut it. I'm talking about this is the elevator door. We're right here. They just came running both of them. Can I guess? And jumped on the... Can I guess?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Yeah, go ahead. Can I get what? Guess what race it is? Probably some muggles trying to sneak on the train. I don't even know what that means. You're not a Harry Potter fan, dude. You're not a real one. I'm really not.
Starting point is 00:13:08 My kids are. I've been to this shit like twice already. I can't believe you let two mugglicans cross. Jump in front of you. I'm really kidding. I'm looking at all of me. Mexicans out there, though, the ones that don't cut in lines. Oh, okay?
Starting point is 00:13:25 Shout out the Mexicans, bro. We love you. I know one line that y'all ain't cutting into right now. What's that one? Immigration. I'm sorry. We are not mature enough to have this conversation, okay? They're already left.
Starting point is 00:13:44 They're already left. Because you fucking fed her. You know you can't for you the pregnant woman. That shit comes right out. I shouldn't have done that shit. I know. What else we got, man? We got poop.
Starting point is 00:13:52 You think that's that one was? What was the sperm Olympics? We didn't even see what it was. So they race the sperm, and then people are asking me that, you know, when I'm going to join when the special Olympics come around. Yo, the sperm special Olympics is hilarious. Every tweet, I go, because I tweet out, I was like, who wants to smoke? And every response is like, yeah, when the special Olympics come, we're going to roll in there with you. The sperm special Olympics is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Jesus Christ. I know, I know. I know. Crippled cum. Crippled cum is crazy. Okay? What we got, Taylor, gang? Give us something, man.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Taylor, what's going on? What does that mean once you suck I'm good? Yo. Why do you title shit like this? She is phenomenal at titling. I'm not going to lie. Hey, you are not phenomenal. Shoeu.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I see you. Get it, Maury. Since when gay was gay, once you suck, I'm good. Go once you suck. I'm good. Yeah, what is once you suck, I'm good. Good. What is this, the Kanye's cousin's biopic?
Starting point is 00:14:55 No, what. What? What? It's just what, um, Cam Ron was saying about. Oh, Hollywood Unlocked. Cameron responds to Kanye dissing him. I don't usually talk to N-words who suck dick. Damn.
Starting point is 00:15:09 But that's not the, once you suck, I'm good, is it? Yeah. Oh, let's hear it. I have to have a talk with him. All right. So we're not disowning him. No, I'm not, not just. shit, not just, right.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I'm gonna fly to California tomorrow, man. All right, all right. See where he's at, man. Because we got to talk, man. I don't like what I'm hearing. All right, man, that's all good. You hear what he said about you? Yeah, that's why I'm talking to you.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Because I don't usually talk to niggas who suck dick once they suck dick. I don't go back. I don't go back and forth once you admit you suck dick. That's just me. That's what I'm talking. Now, that part ain't my son. I'm trying to figure out, that's what I'm trying to figure out. That's what I'm asking.
Starting point is 00:15:56 If you're giving him a pass. I can't give him no pass. Yeah, I'm not going back. Yeah, yeah. I didn't mean it all that, but, you know. What's the context? We talked about it last week. They talked about Kanye West.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Well, what did Kanye say about Cam? I'm not sure what he said. I just like how Cam just came up with a good phrase. Like, you're an admitted. Dick sucker. You know what I'm saying? True, though. It's cool.
Starting point is 00:16:24 He's calling himself gay now. Who is? Kanye. Oh, Kanye, shut up. He crashed out. Kanye don't know what he want to be. LGBTQIA plus don't even want him. They don't even want him.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Like, they don't want none of his letters. They don't want the K, the A, the N, the Y. They already got the Y. Don't they got the Y? They don't have the Y. They don't want none of the letters Kanye got. Yeah. Okay, they don't want the Yays, none of that.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Like, cut it out. I've never seen somebody this thirsty. for attention ever in my fucking life. I'm telling you it's bad. It's bad. For what, though? What is he even trying to accomplish? Somebody said to me, every time, oh, my cousin Tony, he always talked about, Kanye must be promoting something.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I don't think so. I just think he cannot stand not being the guy. And I do think that there's a part of him who is really upset at himself for how he crashed and burnt. I think he's upset that he fucked his own life up. I really believe that.
Starting point is 00:17:19 There's no reason for him not to have his situation with Adidas still other than his own self-sabotage. And y'all can say whatever y'all want. You're not going to sit here and make me believe that having only 15% of a company to where you were making $70 plus million a year. By this time, it would have been quadrupled at. And you got people walking around with your shoes on your feet. You got people walking around with Yeezys. And every single time he did a deal with Adidas, he's. just ended up getting more and more equity.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Because they would have gave it to him because his numbers would have kept being through the roof. He didn't Oprah the situation. Everybody needs to go read the story of Oprah and see how Oprah, every time it was a new contract over and over and over, she just negotiated for more equity, more equity, more equity, more equity, more equity.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Next thing, you know, she got, you know, her own thing. She's her own boss. But she's disciplined. She's disciplined. Oprah's genius? Yes. Some people are genius, they don't have discipline. Some people are genius and their discipline.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And those people who are genius and discipline, they become billionaires, man. Yeah, man. It's interesting when you think about Kanye, right? Because everybody, what did you say? You don't think so? Elon's not really disciplined. I think he is. I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I don't believe he's incredibly disciplined. I don't believe he's incredibly disciplined. Really? The way he moves outside, like all the baby mommas and all that stuff? Do you know, yeah, I think it's on purpose. But, like, you know who Charlie Munger is? That sounds like I'm sad in Charleston, I'm going on up first time.
Starting point is 00:18:49 It's not he's Warren Buffett's, like, right-hand man for, like, decades. You've heard of him, Chris. Charlie Munger said an interesting thing about Elon. He's like, Elon is prolific, but I will never bet against him, but I'll never bet on him. He goes, that guy has gone to the brink of collapse multiple times and found a way out. It's like, all these companies he've started have gone to the brink of bankruptcy. like they're right there and it's about to be done and then he finds a way to pull themselves out. He goes, and because of that, I am petrified of investing the billions of dollars that the, what is it,
Starting point is 00:19:29 Berkshire Hathaway has. He goes, it just scares me. I just can't make that investment. It makes all the sense in the world. No, but it's really, it was an interesting take that I haven't, it was like, this is a thoughtful investor. This is not someone looking for clicks. And it was just from an old interview.
Starting point is 00:19:43 And it was an interesting take about Elon, which is like, clearly he's prolific, clearly is brilliant. Like, anybody who tries to discredit the brilliance, like, you're just, you're being intellectually dishonest. But as an investor, which is what Berkshire Hathaway is, them going, I can't take that risk because I see this guy is willing to go too close to broke. He's willing to fly too close to the sun. It's a very interesting take. That makes all the sense of the world. Very interesting take. Because I'm not going to bet against you, but I'm not, I don't feel comfortable putting my money into what you're doing. I love that he said that I'm, you know you might win. Exactly. But I love that he said, I'm not going to bet against you because he's not trying to just credit him.
Starting point is 00:20:19 He's just going, I have to make safe investments because I have a responsibility to all these people to put their savings into our fund. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. Like, he's a genius. You know who he's described. But the discipline, like, to run your businesses that way, that doesn't show really discipline. But you can't, you're now, investment.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Here's the thing. I do believe that you can be a disciplined investor. But there's really nothing disciplined about investing. It's a gamble. Well, I think like all gambling is... No, no, no, no. The discipline I would say is like when you're investing money that Berkshire Hathaway is, it's like you're investing money in operators and CEOs and existing businesses
Starting point is 00:20:57 that you feel could be more profitable without... I feel like that's safe. I don't know if discipline is the word I would use for that. All right, fair. That's fair. But like, I think that what he's trying to say is I'm looking for more safe investments. So if I have to deploy $300 billion or whatever the fuck it is, and we make 5% on that, that's still a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Yeah. Some people are trying to make 30% on every investment. And it's like, bro, that's gambling. Yeah. That's the gambling shit. I thought it was a very fair critique of Elon that I had never heard before. And I would apply that to Kanye, too. I would say.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Not now. Right. I bet against them all day now. But back then, it's like, no, I'm not going to bet against him, but I'm not going to bet with him. If his crazy works, it works. Or he's probably on his own. I was talking to somebody about the Adidas deal. This was a while ago.
Starting point is 00:21:45 and, you know, we were talking, and it was like the easy partnership with Adidas was fucked up because Yee did have ownership, right? He got a 15% royalty, but he owned the trademark and brand name, and he licensed that to Adidas. So he owned the trademark and brand name 100%. Adidas owned the rights to product designs and, of course, production and distribution. But when they ended the partnership, the whole shit was dead because Adidas can't design. and create like Kanye, and nobody wants to buy the product they own because it didn't have the easy name. So when you look at it, that was Kanye shit. The brand can't even exist without Kanye.
Starting point is 00:22:27 So what you think would have happened over the years is the deal ran its course. You think they want him to go to someplace else? No, well, Kanye, okay, we give you 30% 90, 40% not by the time. But in no time you're already a 50% percent, 51% owner. And you end up getting the capital enough probably the way you can just now go out to Saudi or China or whatever and go straight to the manufacturer. But you've got to build like everybody else does. Why do we not understand these people have all built their companies from the ground up? Like they just do.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Every single person that you can name, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, Tim Cook, whoever it is, all of these people build their shit from the ground. up and it just hurts to see Kanye just reduce his shit to just being an admitted dick sucker. Why are you going to suck all that dick and not be in the Illuminati? Why are you complaining about the Illuminati if you suck dick? That's a good point. That's a fucking thing. That's it. Like, you already suck dick.
Starting point is 00:23:32 That's the reason why we're not joining. You've already done it. Wow. You suck dick already. Wow. Like, what the fuck? Wow. You suck dick already.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yeah. Like, that's literally the whole thing about the Illuminati, right? Yeah, you got to give up your ass. You got to be gay, all of this stuff. You already have tasted cock. Join it. What are you complaining about? Join it.
Starting point is 00:23:57 You're in. Yeah. You did it already. Yeah. And you did it for fun. Maybe they found that out, and they're like, ah, we don't want this. It ain't the same. Like, oh, you tricked that.
Starting point is 00:24:07 You was acting. Like, you weren't a dick suck. Yeah, you're like, ew, yucky. Pretty good. for a first-timer. That's what they thought. That's what they thought. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:18 What is A-Yo? Good segue. What's A-Yo, Taylor? I just saw this. Who's this? This must be old. This is Duke, Tennessee. It ain't March, man.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just saw some of my timeline. So you saw this clip already? I don't even know what this is. No, but... They're kissing. Yeah, but, like, we need to... We need to respond to that in the moment.
Starting point is 00:24:41 We can't respond to that, like, months later. Yeah. Give me something else, Taylor. I don't want to... What is slippery shoes? Jusky. Jusky's amazing. Yo, real quick, before you do this video,
Starting point is 00:24:58 I just want to point out, because we had Gary on the pod, and we played the infamous... Gary Owen. Yeah, Gary Owen. We played the infamous clip from Brilliant Idiots back in the day. This is one of the most viral clips on the Internet,
Starting point is 00:25:09 right, when Charleston asked him how long he's been faithful and he chokes on a dunk. His body wouldn't let him lie. That's my goal for 2019. 16 years. I'm not even faithful. He goes, they brought that up in court. Damn.
Starting point is 00:25:32 So when he was going through the divorce as a way to show what a piece of shit he was, that was brought up in the case. You can't prove. Why that's the, come on. What kind of piece of evidence is that in court? He clearly was drinking something. But imagine you're the judge and you got to watch that with a straight thing. You can't.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And you know what? I'm going to keep playing it until I break you. I know you want a motherfucking laugh. Like, you know what, Judge? Maybe you didn't understand the contact. Yeah, I'm gonna keep telling you this story and tell you fucking laugh. Maybe the judge did laugh.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Did he say the judge didn't laugh? No, I should have asked. God damn. Y'all just shared that though, right? Huh? Say what? I just saw that clip. Yeah, yeah, we're just posted it.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Slippery shoes. This when Drusky fell? Yeah. Like, listen, man, Drusky is that guy. Drusky can turn, make anything funny. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on the s s s' go. Oh, that's a fuck.
Starting point is 00:26:33 It don't matter. I'm good, I'm good. I'm good. It don't matter because, like, Drewski doesn't need it in any way, shape, or form. But the fact that Druthy is doing all of this amazing shit from sketches, the shows, like, could have been love and could have been records, the fact that none of this is on TV, all... You don't need it.
Starting point is 00:27:02 He don't, but all executions. be fired. Yeah. At what point did you, in what point do you not back to bring trucks up for Drewski
Starting point is 00:27:09 if they do whatever the fuck you want? Yeah. Amazon did it for Mr. Beas? They did. Like, at what point do you just don't say here Drusky,
Starting point is 00:27:16 here's all the money go create? Yeah, you're right. Who has this common sense for any network? Yo, if this was MTV 2 days, Drusky would have a TV show Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:27:25 He had that 10 of them. I mean, like, it would be, it would not even be a question. They were working us, bro. They were working us, bro. But it's because Chris McCarthy He was smart. Shout out Chris McCart.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Paul Rich, he was smart. I didn't know that Chris was the one green light in the Yellowstone shows. Chris runs Paramount. I saw some article saying that he, is he moving networks or going to another job or some shit? No, he runs Paramount. I know, but I don't know. I saw some article saying that he built the whole Yellowstone franchise and now he might be looking for another job or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Maybe I haven't seen this up. Maybe I haven't seen. Chris McCarthy was the executive at MTV to when we were there. He gave us all our deals. He gave us all our deals, our shows. It was incredible. I never forget, Paul Ritchie and Candida came to the radio station one morning, and they was like, you know, we got this network called MTV 2.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Of course I was familiar because Envy was on there hosting, I think the show was called Sucker Free. It was a video show. Sucker Free Sundays, right? And they was like, yo, we want to give you a TV deal, which I didn't understand why, because I had a radio face. And I signed that TV deal for, I think, $50,000 maybe, $55,000. And that was to be on MTV2.
Starting point is 00:28:32 MTV2. I didn't even know what they were doing. They just wanted to sign me of the talent and they signed me. And then they started putting me on sucker free. And then they was like, yeah, we got this show that we're doing called Guy Code Code and the rest is history. History, man. The rest is motherfucking history. Shout out, Goddita. Shout out Paul Ritchie. Shout out, Darren, man. They would have, oh, Ryan, Ryan, Ryan. Ryan, man. So Ryan Ling is the creator of the code show. Yep. Guy Code, Girl Code, all the shows. Yep. Yeah, man. They would have definitely, Drewski would have definitely had a show on MTV 2. at the least. I will say what they did great was is they built talent, and then they gave talent opportunities to shine through TV shows. And we were at the end of TV. So, like, that was the last run of TV. Think about that.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah. Like now everything's streaming. There's still TV shows. But that was the last... Yeah, you're right. I think that was the last, like, five years, maybe even called, like, a decade of TV shows. 2010, 2015, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:29:25 You actually watched on TV. And it was appointment viewing to the point where, like, you knew the show was on because Twitter was the only app because Twitter would go crazy and that was the only place people could talk about shit. And they rated we had good ratings and they
Starting point is 00:29:41 motherfucking, you know how you know it was a good show because there's episodes you can't even air now. Maybe now, maybe now, they might bring them back now. We can talk about that. There was a bunch of woke, during that walk, they literally took episodes off and edited episodes. We were, man, we were wild.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Why? You got a thing, you got a young Charlemagne, young Andrew, young Dubol, Prince of Stephano, John Gabris, why? And the show was called Guy Code. We just on there talking about man shit. Oh, it was great. He was doing songs like talking about our balls sticking to our legs. Yeah, Stuckie. Stuckie.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Shut up Stuckie, man. Stuckey ain't fucking nothing. Like that, that was like random shit we would just say on the different era. man. Different area. Then that spawned Girl Code and they all, oh, what's so? Girl Girl Code gave you Aquafina and Nicole Byer and Carly Aquilino, Jesse May Paluso, Nessa. Who else was on Girl Cold? There's a great time, man. Great time. What a motherfucking time, man. But now that is on YouTube. Like, a lot of those shows will exist on YouTube, and Druski is a perfect
Starting point is 00:30:49 example of it. It's like, all right, I'll just get a production company. I'll get sponsors for the show and I'll just make my own TV show and put it out there on YouTube. Yes. Probably has a way bigger effect, low key. Like if that was stuff, if that show was on VH1 right now, I don't know if it's getting the ratings that it does when he does it on YouTube and it's just all over the internet, people clipping it, posting things. Oh, no, somebody like Drusky will have success on streaming platforms and on film. Yeah. Because he has an audience that comes to him. Yep.
Starting point is 00:31:18 So the audience will go to scream and they'll go to film. And that's like his crowd is used to that. His crowd ain't turning on the fucking TV. The crowd, I don't even know what VH1, what number VH1 is on the network. That's the thing that, like, that's the thing that's been hard to crack, though, is getting people to films. So I think that, like, the film industry, from what I've heard talking to them, they don't really, like, as comedians, right? Like, we might go out, we do these shows, we do arenas, you know, tens of thousand people coming out. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:45 But there hasn't been a comedy to film success that's made the film industry go, oh, yeah, we could just greenlight everything from comedians. and then give them tons of money. Because they're putting the wrong people in it. They should be, I mean, it's in all sincerity. Everybody's going to say I'm biased, but it should be Andrew Shoehl's. It should be Drusky. It should be Kyson Nott.
Starting point is 00:32:09 It should be Shane Gillis. It should be Theo Vaugh. I guarantee you when Theo Vaughn's movie comes out. Theo and David Spade and a bunch of guys. Guarantee you, they're going to make a lot of money. But you know what? They paid for that themselves. As they should.
Starting point is 00:32:22 It's just an example of like the film industry is just not there yet. They're like, we don't know if there's. They're still retarded. Maybe. They are. Like, by the way, they may not want to take the risk, but that's fine. Yeah. Let me beat Theo Vaughn and take the risk on funding my own shit.
Starting point is 00:32:37 100%. Now we're going to come out, make 40, 50 million at the box office, and then now y'all going to be on our dick. Yeah. You know? I mean, that's really what it takes. It takes somebody doing it by themselves. And then it's this cooler thing, too.
Starting point is 00:32:48 It's the same thing when happened with Jordan Peel. It's like, Coogler did this deal. The movie is obviously a huge success. 161 million. And then what's going to happen is that the creators that can, and I also want to point out something about this really specific, but like the creators that can do this are going to get those deals. People made a big deal about his specific deal. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:13 They acted like it was the only time it's ever been done. And Coogler was in an interview and he goes, this is not the first time this thing has been done. But a big deal is being made about me. and then the interviewer asked, why do you think that is? He goes, I have my suspicions. I'll keep him myself.
Starting point is 00:33:30 But I don't like the fact that the positioning was the movie studios don't know how they'll recover if deals like this are going on. It's like, no, they already were going on to white directors. And now you do it with the black guy and then there's a big fucking deal about it. But that's the answer to the question. Yeah, but I just think it's like the white guy who can dance, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Wait, wait, go on, go on. When the white guy can dance, you're over-exam. Yeah, you did it. I have basic ass running man you did. But the, but the studio. The studios aren't happy. The studios, there are people that are part of the studios that were upset. They're like, we can't be giving deals out like this.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And it's like, you already are doing it. I'm going to be honest. I saw that narrative. Where did it come from? You don't think that's real. I don't, where did it come from? Like, there was no names attached to it. It was just a thing that was out there.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Studios are upset. What studios? Things they're already doing it. That's what I'm saying. You don't think Christopher Nolan has the same deal? Of course he did. Christopher Nolan got it. If I'm not mistaken, James Cameron got it for one of the Terminators, I think it was.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I bet you, if Adam Sandler wants a deal like that, he could get it. Like, there are certain people that can get these deals. It's, uh... But you don't think it's the studios that are putting that message out, so they encourage all the other studios to stop giving deals out? Can I ask... Can I answer that question? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:43 If you're a studio, you don't say shit. Why would you tell somebody what deal you gave them? No studio would say that. Like, we don't... Like, no studio would tell people, they wouldn't plant that idea for other directors to ask. No studio would say that Why would I tell you
Starting point is 00:34:58 What I gave somebody else So another director can come and ask Yeah Where you know the only stupid motherfuckers Who talk about what they get Who? Talent Yeah, that's true
Starting point is 00:35:07 Why the fuck would a studio Tell anybody what they would do They did with somebody Especially when it was a great deal Studios don't even want to tell you your numbers No They reluctantly tell you your numbers Because you use that against them
Starting point is 00:35:17 On the next negotiation So then who do you think put that out Because I saw that everywhere I think somebody just did that the fuck I think somebody knew that the deal happened and they just threw that shit out there probably to stir up controversy, stir up conversation
Starting point is 00:35:29 about the film. It could have been like a fake combo. It could have been like just two execs talking at lunch going like, man, we can't give out these deals. How are we going to make any money? And it's not even a real conversation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And then the game of telephone turns that into the head of Fox is saying. Or somebody might have heard about the deal and said, my God, this Hollywood this will ruin Hollywood if people start to know about this and then the people just ran with the stories. You know it's going to ruin Hollywood?
Starting point is 00:35:54 not making movies like this. Yeah. If you make movies like this, you can give it back to them 25 years because if this is what the movies look like and people start going out to the theater again, you're going to make a lot more money. A lot more money.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Hollywood is not in a position to be frugal when it comes to creators that can make films that people will pay money to go see in the theater. It's been two weeks, and this shit has made over $161 million at the box office worldwide. Original IP, original title,
Starting point is 00:36:23 like a hawk, R or rated R is perfect. You know, rated R. No, no, I haven't seen it yet. I'm going with my wife, but, you know, we have a date night. So we're working around the baby schedule a little bit. But like, the rated R component is huge. When you go rated R, you significantly reduce the amount of people that can go see your movie.
Starting point is 00:36:44 When you have a PG movie that kids want to go see, the parents got to take them. Yes. So every ticket is minimum two tickets, oftentimes three. because I don't want my wife to go see the new kid movie without me and the baby. You want to watch your kid watch the movie. So the PG movies, you get in three tickets for the four, for one, essentially. Our movies, it's only adults. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:08 It's hard to make money on rated R movies. Very much so. But shit, when you look at Deadpool, Wolverine, even though, it's hard to count that because it's such a huge idea. You can't even compare. Yeah. Can't even compare. But Sinners, absolutely. I want to do a rated R movie.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I want it to be rated retarded. Like, I want it to be like, I want to do something so ridiculous starring all of us. I got an idea. Special Olympic sperm race. But it's that type of premise. It can be, we can do a whole movie based off that type of premise. Andrew Schultz wants to put his sperm in the Special Olympic sperm race. But what makes it funny is we switch it with your sperm.
Starting point is 00:37:49 No. You put your sperm in the Special Olympic sperm race. But the other people that are participating in this firm are actually . So. That's the comedy. That is the comedy right there. That's the comedy, bro. That's the comedy, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:14 That's the comedy. Build off that premise. That's it. You're okay? Build off that goddamn premise. Call a basil. Call it Basil right now. Where are the Mexican writers to build this?
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Starting point is 00:39:23 His name is Hay Hey His name is Yum when he goes in my tum-tum In theater's July 10th What is the NBA Tustle? What is this? That's some bullshit with Janice and what's his face of dad? Ryan Clark said that, what's his name? Is it Josh Halliburton or John Halliburton? Neither.
Starting point is 00:39:47 It is John Halliburton. This is Dad. Tyrese Halliburton. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Halliburton's dad. Oh, I thought this was his dad. Yeah, this is his dad. Sorry, I didn't know that that's who you're.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I thought you were talking about the game. The father came onto the floor after the game. Yeah, Ryan Clark said he should be banned from all games. No, but get your ass off the court. Like, don't take the moment away from your son. That's the thing. Don't take you a moment away from your son. Kenny Smith had a bar last night.
Starting point is 00:40:09 He said, what he said? He said, what he said? Watch the show, don't be the show? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what it was. Because he went to run on the court and talk to the play like, no, you don't. No, you don't. Come see the show.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Don't be the show. No, no. Yeah, I get the idea of being excited for your kid, like watching them in playoffs. It must be exhilaratingly. It's probably the best thing in the world. I'm sure he's regretful. I imagine today he's looking at- Oh, you apologize. Yeah, that was the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I'm going to tell you something, man. Y'all can say what y'all want. We got to start letting players get a freebie. Yo. Let the players get a freebie. If you run up on the court, that's like running in my house. The player can be able to stand his ground against the fan. Why do we keep acting like these people aren't human?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Just because they have hundreds of millions of dollars? After Malice in the palace, the fans were very polite. You know what I mean? Like, they were very polite. In that case, them guys should have got in trouble. No, not really. Because they fucking thirst They threw a fucking drink on Ron Ortest
Starting point is 00:41:05 That's a soul He hit the wrong guy He did hit the wrong guy That's yeah Casualties of a dice game I watched Malice in the Palace At least once a year Oh that's great
Starting point is 00:41:14 Because the way Because you don't think Watch that shit live It was crazy Wait you were at the game No but I mean Oh yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:21 You know TV Because you don't realize Like when you meet these guys Like Ron Artes And Steven Jackson You realize how tall they were And you think about How young and athletic
Starting point is 00:41:29 They were back then Just to imagine Them big ass motherfuckers going into the stand and just laying people to fuck out. Stephen Jackson was like, like he had a laser. It was like, bam. It was like whack them all. People were just dropping.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Like, he was like, just dropping folks. That shit was incredible to watch. Incredible. I played in a pickup game on Saturday mornings at that time. Real serious game in Brooklyn. Guys would get there 7 o'clock Saturday mornings, play immediately. People spent literally two hours recreating the sliding, you know, like people couldn't even play the game. Yeah, Germaine O'Neill point. Yeah, they were just talking about that shit.
Starting point is 00:42:06 But he lost his footing, though. That was God saving him though. Yeah, he was a murder. He would have been. He would have murdered that guy. Yeah, yeah. But that was a, that was great. I never watched the documentary. I wanted to watch the documentary. But yeah, I don't think that his father should be banned from the game. I just think that. And I understand the excitement, right? Like, you know, they came back seven points down, 40 seconds left. Your kids, the game winner. But just jump up and down in the seat. Like, what do you get from taunting, God damn? Like, you know, they're damn um yonis yonuts don't even bother nobody go out to dinner and then talk all that shit at dinner that's what you got to do i wonder when they did this documentary did they interview the people that
Starting point is 00:42:42 they fucked up i never saw the duck i mean they had to they had to i want to talk to do the paces win the championship this year i saw reggie mill on the all-a-smoke podcast last week that was the real casualty of it do you think they win that year that's a great team no what year was this i forgot Jordan was already out of the league. 2003? I can't even remember. Did they beat the Lakers in the finals? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:04 No. Well, you got Artes as the premier perimeter defender of the era. Yep. And then you also got Stefan Jackson. Jemaine O'Neill was an all-starred. Stephen Jackson. Yeah, sorry. Reggie Miller was on that team.
Starting point is 00:43:17 He was very clutched. People forget about, extremely clutch player. I don't know if anybody forgets about that. I got PTSD from me. No, they're fans, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:26 They were really good. I don't know. I saw him apologize. to Reggie Miller because he felt like, you know, that was Roger Miller's last hurrah, and that was the year for them to win the championship. I don't know if they win, though. I don't know. I don't think so. I believe everything happens for a reason, so, I mean, it played
Starting point is 00:43:38 out the way it played out. Did you watch the NFL draft? Oh, yeah, let's talk about that. I didn't watch the draft. I don't even know how you, like, do people sit around for five rounds of a draft and just watch? They did this year. Shit, I didn't. That shit had the second round had the highest ratings, I think they said ever of a second round NFL draft. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:43:54 tell me what your take is with Shadur's slide? I think my take my take with Chador's slide is that I don't know if Chador was ever ranked as high as we thought.
Starting point is 00:44:13 You know what I mean? Because somebody pointed something out to me that I went to go look up myself and they was like, if you go look at every, if you look at it like a lot of the NFL scouts and are a lot of people that's in that field, the only people who had him ranked so high was Mel Kiper and like maybe one other guy.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Everybody else had him as a second round pick, you know, maybe high second round, mid-second round. Like, nobody had him, you know, number one, top five, like, like people were saying. Gary Owen had an interesting take where he was like, there was really only five teams that wanted a quarterback. Yeah, there was only six quarterbacks draft. No, seven. I think maybe six or seven quarterbacks drafted. So there weren't, there wasn't a lot of interest for quarterback. So if only five teams are looking for a quarterback, it's not like you have how many teams in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:44:57 32 32 so it's not like 32 32 right but like it's not like you have 32 chances you have five chances around right so that's i guess you could look at like that i will say this when we were in st barts we went to some party super late you would already left and it was like sunrise party five six in the morning and i saw shador at that party and i was like You should not be at this party. Now, he wasn't, he looked sober. He looked completely sober. But still, I'm like, you're about to go into this final year.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Like, I don't know if this is the place that you even want to be seen at. I remember you told me that. And it was funny because back then, when that was December, right? Yeah, I'm not talking about a regular day party, like when we saw the owner of the Cowboys. I'm talking about six in the morning. Everybody there is not Chador. I thought he was stone cold sober. He don't know, though.
Starting point is 00:45:54 He's young. He's young. He living his life as the holidays. Sure. but you're just like, I don't need to be at this event because I don't want somebody to tell TMZ I was at this event. But that's when the OG's supposed to go to him and be like, yo, homie, I know you're enjoying yourself,
Starting point is 00:46:09 but just ain't enjoying yourself, but just ain't the type of party you should. You don't enjoy yourself yet. Enjoy yourself when you're in the league, you already got the contract. And I remember having that conversation and we were discussing then would he be the number one pick? Because that's what everybody was saying, but when I think about it, I'm like, well, who was everybody? Where did we get that from?
Starting point is 00:46:22 The same way you talking about you talked about with the Ryan Coolwood story. Like, where did we get that? Yeah, that's a good point. So sometimes narratives just, just pop up out of nowhere that aren't true. And then he slides. And then the emotional feeling is this, like, I think some people are assuming that it was about, like,
Starting point is 00:46:38 not understanding his confidence or thinking it was arrogance. And then, like, GM's not wanting to sign. And it probably was, though. He said himself that there was things he wish he would have done differently during the pre-draft process. He said that. Like what? What was he saying?
Starting point is 00:46:53 I mean, he didn't go into detail. But Chador Sanders himself said, there's things he wish he would have. have done different during the pre-draft process. Like, he didn't work out at the combine. They said, you know, he wasn't the best in, you know, some interviews. I mean, all of that matters, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I mean, why not work out in the combine? They said he didn't, what's the shit called the Senior Bowl? He didn't participate in that. I mean, you got to go do the things. It sounded like they had a great season last year. Were they 10 and 11? Oh, no. It was 9 and 4.
Starting point is 00:47:22 The Buffalo? Colorado Buffalo? Yeah, they went to a bowl game and everything. They was 9 and 4 went to a ball game. Is that right? Yeah, the first year he was done. they didn't have a good season. They were like four and seven.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Last year they were nine, no, they were four and nine maybe the first year. I know last year they won nine games. They went to a bowl game last year. But listen, I look at somebody like Will Howard, right? You know Will Howard is, right? Will Howard was the quarterback for the national champion Ohio State Buckeyes.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Okay. He was the MVP at a Cotton Bowl. He had a pretty good year last year What was Will? Let me pull up Will Stats. Let me pull up Will Howard stats real quick. What's Will Stats? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Will Howard stats. Let's see what Will Howard stats was. Yeah, 9 and 4. You said what? They were 9 and 4. Yeah, the Buffalo was 9 and 4 last year. The year before they were 4 and 8.
Starting point is 00:48:24 4 and 8. There you go. I don't know. Let me pull it up. Will Howard. Oh, here it go. Oh, okay. Yeah, he had a,
Starting point is 00:48:30 Will Howard won the national championship last year. They played 16 games. He had 4,010 passing yards, 35 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, a completion percentage of 73%. Russian touchdowns 226, Russian touchdowns 7, led the Buckeyes to a 14-2 record,
Starting point is 00:48:49 secured victories in the college football playoff, including a win over Northred Dame in the national championship game. His performance earned him the offensive MVP title for the championship game. He went in the sixth round. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:02 You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying. So you're saying we're conflating fame with skill? I think that we do that often. You know what Shador reminded me of? It reminded me of watching the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And you know how you watch the Oscars and it's that one movie you saw? It's the one movie you know. So you think that movie should win And then it loses to a movie you haven't even seen. You haven't even seen. I haven't heard nobody talk about. But you say it's a travesty.
Starting point is 00:49:35 This people got robbed. I don't know. I didn't watch the other fucking movies. Yeah. I don't know. There's another theory floating around that true insiders didn't have him rated that high at all. But that Dion, because he's worked with so many people in the media over different platforms, over his career and has a lot of friendships and kind of ask them to. create the hype machine.
Starting point is 00:49:59 That's what they said he did with Mel Kippel. But it backfired. They created too much hype and there was too much of a distance between the actual evaluation. Well, I wonder, and I mean, like, you know, hindsight is 2020. I just wonder if he did the politics,
Starting point is 00:50:12 meaning that he did the senior bowls. He participated in the combine. Prove yourself. Workouts. But you don't think, Dion, I mean, I'm just saying if I were a coach or a GM and I'm in a shaky situation already, Do you want to bring in a personality like that into the mix who also a coach?
Starting point is 00:50:31 I don't think it's his fault. I don't think it's Chodor's fault. I actually don't see Chador as Dion-esque at all. No, no, I don't mean Chador. I mean, Deon, it's a package deal. Sure, sure. I guess what I'm saying is like, Dion is incredibly, he's like a disinfectious personality, has so much attention around him, there's so much gravity.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I see Chador whenever I see him talk is a little bit like, not timid, he's confident, but he's not. Confidentful reserve. He's reserved. And I think there's part of him that, like, you connect him with his father and assume he is his father. But when you see him talk, he's not like that at all. He's not primetime. He's more late mate. You know what I'm saying? I'm just like, if you're the GM of the Giants, right? Now, Shiloh! Shiloh! I was going to say it. Fund time. Exactly. I would say his personality is more similar to Dion. Shiloh with prime time. I think Shador is more reserved. So any, any GM that's, that is hesitating because they're worried.
Starting point is 00:51:26 about having a Dionne S personality. I think that you're not... I think what Chris is saying, you get Dion also. Actually. Yeah, I don't think the confident. Here's the thing. I don't think the confident thing
Starting point is 00:51:38 is what probably scared GMs. It's when Dion said, I'm going to control where my son goes. We're not just going to go anywhere. Yeah. Will you predict should Doran Traff is going in the draft? Top four.
Starting point is 00:51:55 That's beautiful. Anywhere from one through four. One of them is going to be one. That's what I'm talking about. One of them is going to be one. And the latter one would not go behind four. Now, all this is subjective because I know where I want, kind of want them to go.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And let's not have to get shallow, okay? But I know where I want them to go. So it's certain cities that ain't going to happen. Okay, you're going to be a, I'm sorry, it's going to be an Eli. When he did that, you know what I mean? And everybody tried to compare it to the Archie Manning. But, yo, Eli Manning was a number one pick in the draft, y'all.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Archie or Eli? Well, Archie said that. Archie was like, we're not going to just play for anybody. Oh, yeah. And John Elway's father did that back in the day. But that was John, where did John Elway going to draft? I think what you're number one, right? What you're basically saying is that, like, the draft expectations of Elway or Eli
Starting point is 00:52:52 Manning were very different than the draft expectations. Without dispute, overwhelming. Without dispute. And so when you hear Deon say that, you got to be like, eh, you know, I'm not, I don't hear it. There's another argument here to be made, and I think Deon was representing his kids. It was actually funny because Shiloh at a certain point in time is like, I think apparently he goes, you know, our dad was our agent, but that hasn't really worked that well, so I got to get an agent. When Drew Rosenau.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Dad was our agent, but that hasn't been working out too good. So today I had to sign with agent, bro. So we're going to see what happens. But I do think what will happen is when you have an agent, the agent will be interfacing with these teams. And then they'll tell you the real. They'll go, listen, there is not a lot of interest. You should go to the combine and you should prove some of these people wrong. Because right now, I spoke to the six teams that are looking for a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And none of them see you in their first three or four round picks. So we got to go to the combine. We got to blow these other motherfuckers out. And if you're not getting that direct information for whatever. reason, maybe these teams feel uncomfortable telling it to Dion. Who knows, maybe they don't have those relationships. When you just talk to an agent, you tell the agent straight up. You go, yeah, we don't think he got it.
Starting point is 00:54:04 He got to prove it to us. So this is a situation where maybe having an agent could have been better. Yeah, I like when Shilohel said this door, Shaloh said, man, if they're doing you like this man. I'm not going to do it. I don't know what they're about to do me dirty. See, I don't even know what they're going to do with me, bro, because they're doing you like this. Making him wait?
Starting point is 00:54:28 Oh, what? Me? No. Shado got signed in the bucks, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Undrafted free agent. Yeah, undrafted free agent. Yeah, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I think... I thought he handled it really well. Yo, that's what I love. Yo, man, Shadour Sanders has more emotional intelligence than 99% of the people... Beautifully handled. Even commentating on this situation. Beautifully handled. Shadda didn't jump to no collusion conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Nothing. Shad didn't jump to racism. All Shadad kept saying was, this is part of God's plan. Give me opportunity. Whatever God got planned, this is how it's supposed to go down. Thank you, God.
Starting point is 00:55:04 If I'm a GM, and I see that a guy like that ends up having talent, but knowing his confidence level to handle a situation like this, the whole world is watching, waiting to see when he's going to go. It doesn't go his way,
Starting point is 00:55:18 and he still maintains his confidence and as a true gentleman throughout, I'm going, man, I hope that skill matches up because I could build around a character like that. Exactly. And that's why I don't believe. nothing they said about Shador's character because I don't judge people
Starting point is 00:55:31 I don't judge their character based on how they're doing when they're winning. I judge their character based on when they're facing adversity, right? So for him to slide all the way down for five rounds and for him to be so young and to be so much on social media.
Starting point is 00:55:47 He was screaming damn there the whole time. Never said nothing fucked up. Never said nothing fucked up. Even when he got a prank call. Yeah. Even when he got prank call he didn't jump out the window. The guy was like, he called him back to apologize. What was the dude's name that prank called him? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Some coach's kid or assistant coach's kid. The coach got fined today, too, a quarter million dollars because of that his fucking stupid-ass son. I'm taking off my fucking belt and beating your ass. Oh. What the fuck is wrong with you, Fred? Like, he got fined a quarter of my fucking million dollars for that shit. Whatever the guy's name is, he called and he apologized and should do and accepted
Starting point is 00:56:18 the apology. It was all good. He showed me what type of character he has this weekend. Huge. By being in, by things not going his way. and he's like, yo, whatever God got playing is what's up. People don't do that enough. Everybody want to thank God and give glory to God when things are good.
Starting point is 00:56:34 No, whenever you are in a situation that you don't want to be in, whenever things are not going your way, that's what you're supposed to say. You know what, God, thank you. I look forward to seeing what you are teaching me in this moment. The power of faith. That's what I saw Sodor doing this weekend. I was like, that young man has a lot of emotional intelligence. I said that to somebody a couple of days ago, and they was like,
Starting point is 00:56:55 Well, if he had so much emotional intelligence, why did he act like that in interviews? I don't know how he acted in interviews. I wasn't fucking there. Yeah, I didn't see him in any of the interviews. Also, how many teams did he even interview for? I have no idea. I just heard the Giants. And I'd blow that one, too.
Starting point is 00:57:11 I would fucking blow that one if I was your door to. Why the fuck would I want to play for the New York goddamn giant? Okay, why would I want to come to New York and stay all in motherfucking Texas? I'm in Texas where I don't got no stuff. state tax, now I got to come here and have them motherfucking ditty me? Don't put that on the giants, bro. I know.
Starting point is 00:57:34 What? Diddy? What? What did he got to do with the giant? I don't know. I was just trying to make an up-the-ass joke, but I mean, I don't know if, I don't even want to put that on Diddy. I don't know if Diddy goes up to ass.
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Starting point is 00:57:55 No. Let's pay some bills, y'all. If you pull a muscle, all of a sudden, you realize how often you use that muscle. So the bladder is exactly like that. When it's working well, we don't think about it. But when it's not working properly, you're getting up at night or in the cases of many men, you may have some leakage. If this is something that's affecting your quality of life, there are really good solutions these days.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Depend makes the garden a shield. The shield would be if you have a... leakage on occasion if you have heavier leakage, you could use the guard. Church announcements, what we got, Shultzzi? Um, shit, I got nothing. Really? Yeah, I'm trying to see. The life is on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Stop at it. Oh, stop it. My bad. Let's do it again. Yeah, the life is on Netflix right now. You want to just ask me? Ask me again. Church announcements, what we got, Hezzi?
Starting point is 00:58:52 Yo, life. Life is on Netflix, man. Thank you guys so much for watching it. Thank you so much for sharing it. Thank you so much for posting about it. I appreciate y'all, man. So go watch that. If you haven't seen it, go watch it again.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Or if you have seen it watch it again. If you haven't, go watch it for the first time, man. Share with your friends, your family. And I really appreciate the huge success that has become because you guys all shared it. So thank you so much. Yeah, I just want to tell you three books, man. The paperback book, the paperback version of my latest book, Get Honest to Dialying, Why Small Talk Sucks, is available everywhere you buy books now.
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Starting point is 00:59:46 We are in the month of May right now, so we are a few weeks away from Don Staley's book being released in bookstores. And you asked me, Chris, you said, is Don going on tour? Don has fit some things into her busy schedule, but she will be at...
Starting point is 01:00:02 Paul sent it to me. I got it right here. Yes, he'll be at Barnes & Noble 5th Avenue on Thursday, May 22nd at 1 p.m. Eastern. She'll be at Barnes & Noble 5th Avenue, Thursday, May 22nd at 1 p.m. Eastern. Then she'll be in her hometown of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on Friday, May 23rd at the Enon Tabernacle
Starting point is 01:00:22 with Uncle Bobby's Coffee and Books in conversation with Jess Sims at 7 p.m. And then on Thursday, May 29th, she will be in Columbia, South Carolina at the R2I2 Conference Center. Okay, so you can go to I don't know what the website is. What is the website?
Starting point is 01:00:44 I don't know what the website is. I can't even know how to pronounce that. Bit.L.Y. slash uncommon favor, but, yes, she is going on tour. Decisions, decisions, they're going on a 21 city tour. Whoa. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Listen, man, you got to go out there and promote these books. These books ain't going to sell themselves. Okay? People got to know you have a book out and, you know, they'll support it. So, you know, they're going out there to touch their people, Don touching her people. So salute to
Starting point is 01:01:06 everybody. All of those books would be available via Black Privilege Simon and Houston publishing. Let's talk tariffs, man. What's your thinking? What's you thinking? Well, I was reading this great article that talks about the tariff
Starting point is 01:01:20 to recession timeline. Okay. And on April 2nd, tariffs were announced. Containership departures from China to the U.S. slowed down. Early to mid-May, they say, ships the U.S. ports will come to a stop. Mid to late May, trucking demand comes to a halt leading to empty shelves and lower sales for companies. Late May to early June, layoffs in trucking and retail industries. Summer 2025 will be a recession. Now, I listen to the economists, right? But who I listen to is the people. And all week long, especially this week in particular, truck drivers and people who work at the ports have been calling Breakfast Club. just warning us of the inevitable.
Starting point is 01:02:03 And you know, I'm from Charleston, South Carolina. There's a port in Charleston that got one cargo ship that will be arriving on May 10th. And then the ports are shutting down. Charleston gets from China 200,000 to 500,000 containers each month. There are a major port of goods from China that come into the U.S. So what I would tell, brilliant idiot listeners, is start stocking up. I thought about that.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Start stocking up. Stocking up on what? I guess whatever it is, you're not going to be able to get. Like, you know, they say by the summertime, you're going to see empty shelves. But, like, what specifically? Are we talking about deodorant? We're talking about diapers? Please, deodorant, especially during the summer.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Like, I go, go. For my studio, for example, I bought extra equipment because I know equipment, electronics is going to go. What about regular everyday people? That's a great question. Yeah, it's like, is it granola? Is it cereal or is that manufactured here? Is it diapers? Is it toothpaste?
Starting point is 01:02:59 like what are the things that we should get ahead of if we can now that are going to be because it's okay so this is the confusing thing about the tariffs uh are the tariffs stopping goods from coming here or are they stopping people from buying the goods once they're here this rhetoric seems like they're stopping goods from even coming here so yeah so maybe stores are going i can't afford to buy that or to sell it at that price therefore i'm not going to buy it therefore there won't be anybody. The stuff that will come over here, once it's gone, it's gone for a few months.
Starting point is 01:03:35 So there's minimal stuff. So it seems like there's going to be less consumption on behalf of the major corporations. It says the impact will be felt most acutely in the coming weeks and months with lower-cost footwear, apparel, toys, electronics, being particularly hard to find. Perishable items like apple juice and fish
Starting point is 01:03:50 may also be scarce due to limited shelf life. So, what was it, apparel? Apparel, low-cost footwear, toys, electronics, seafood, apple juice. It just says perishable items, period. See, that's going to be tough because this is a lot of back-to-school stuff. This is a lot of back-to-school stuff. I'm most concerned about, like, people and their kids.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, if you need specific things for your kids, you need diapers, right? The price of baby strollers doubled. So, but a stroller is something that you buy once, right? So maybe there's a couple, whatever. But, like, what are the things that moms and dads are buying? every single week for their kids.
Starting point is 01:04:31 So are there certain foods that are going to skyrocket that you should store? Is it like baby formula? Perishable items with show. So what, like a list of these things would be really helpful, I think, for the listeners. And for me, shit, like, let's get ahead of it. If it's diapers, all right, let me buy five boxes of diapers right now.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Yeah. Get us through the summer. Interestingly, I think Amazon was going to put it essentially. Saw that. The tariff tax on the website to show you how much. Then Trump. Daddy call. Said, no, you don't.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Daddy call. because what they were going to do is go, here's our price, and then here's the added tax because of tariffs. I'm going to tell you why I respect that. I respect that because you're going to have a lot of companies who are going to jack their prices up just because they can. Price gouging is a real motherfucking thing.
Starting point is 01:05:13 So if you have, if on Amazon it says this is because of tariffs, if you see somebody jacking their prices up and they don't have this is because of tariffs, that's just them price gals. I can't prove it. I feel instinctively that's been going on for the last 15 years. Of course.
Starting point is 01:05:27 What do you mean? If I'm paying $5 for a coffee, a croissant still costs the same amount. Todd, let me tell you something about that. You're speaking so much truth. There was a time where we're going up, but I'm not trying to be like an old head of here, but like a regular what we call drip coffee, just a cup of coffee, was like $1, $1.50. $1.25.
Starting point is 01:05:46 And then Starbucks introduces the espresso-based drinks. And we're convinced that by doing an espresso-based drink that it's more expensive. So we start spending like $4. for an espresso-based drink. Then all of a sudden, the drip coffee that is not an espresso-based drink, that is just a batch made with grounds coffee beverage, started costing just as much as the espresso-based drink.
Starting point is 01:06:15 That right there is this price goutger you're talking about. You get us comfortable spending $4 for a cup of coffee, and then all of a sudden you raise the price of the cheap coffee to the same. And cookies and croissants and muffins and everything associated. with so now the experience of going and getting a cup of coffee and a you know what though i don't even think that's i don't even think that's price gouging i i think that is they know y'all got an addiction when a motherfucker has an addiction you can charge them
Starting point is 01:06:43 whatever like y'all are addicted to caffeine so it's not caffeine is also the experience yes but same thing they once they got you in the store they know what you're going there for they know that we start our morning with a cup of coffee it's a habit like one in the afternoon that's right but there's something specific about, like, this is the annoying thing about that Amazon tariff thing, right? Is that they're going, hey, things are more expensive because of these tariffs. So we're going to show this tariff price so you don't think it's us. Okay. Well, you never posted like the cost of making the good for you and then what you charge.
Starting point is 01:07:16 No, no, that's, now you're talking now. Because they're not going to tell you that it costs $3 to make in China. Exactly. So it's like, that's why on some level I get the Trump administration, be like, No, don't do this fuck shit. You were charging 300% more for this item. And now that they're the tariffs, you want to blame it on us, you guys were gouging like a motherfucker before.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Stop using this as... And it's not that Amazon was gouged. It's just that these corporations here in America are gouging. You go to these other countries, you get shit made for $2, $3, and come over here and sell it to us for $100. They did that with the bags. Remember when China came out at the beginning of the tariffs? Where all these luxury goods, right?
Starting point is 01:07:50 Where they told us that they were hands sewn inside, you know, mom and pop factories in first. And then China was like, er, yeah, no, they're sewn by machines over here in China. And then we're sending them around. You're just charging $5,000 for a fucking bag. The Balenciagas, the Chanel's, the stuffies. No. They're really bad, bro.
Starting point is 01:08:13 You're really bad. You're really bad. He was so excited. And he like called a friend. And then it's like, yo, how do I... You know it's so crazy. Motherfuckers be texting me all week like, yo, man, here, man. Like, no.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Like, yo, some of you know, I'm not... And some of them don't even be that dead. Like, look, there's a whole thread on the Reddit that you need to look at. They got a bunch of jokes. Like, they are fed up. They're like... Can he just get them one fucking time?
Starting point is 01:08:52 There's this one dude that will be on Instagram. He'd just be like, yo, Charlamagne, just too curious, bro. He says that shit. On the greatest, three video. It's Charlemagne's greatest. He's like, Charlemagne's just too curious. Here's the thing, man. All I'm telling you is going to be a cold summer.
Starting point is 01:09:10 That's it. I fuck all. Listen, I ain't here to talk about politics, Democrats, Republicans. We're all American at the end of the day, and we are responsible for the decisions and the choices that the leaders of the country make. So everybody is going to be impacted by this. So figure it out. Well, that's what we got to get ahead of right now.
Starting point is 01:09:30 It's like, what are the things that are actually going to cost a little and more? And how can we scoop up? I don't want to say scoop them up now because then it actually punishes the people who don't have a little extra money in their pockets, you know, when it hurts. So, yeah, that actually would disadvantage them even more. If we have the money to buy five months worth of diapers and we go do it, now they don't get diapers even earlier. I don't know. I was thinking about this really deeply last night.
Starting point is 01:09:56 My daughter committed to a college last night. Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey. Very excited. Let's go. I don't want to say. It's a fine school. Can we bleep it and you just tell us so we know?
Starting point is 01:10:07 Is it a lot of money? Give us the price tag. That's what you give us. 88. God. Damn. Can I say, want you? Just say it.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Just say we'll bleep. Oh. Nice school. Yeah. And she got a scholarship? No. she didn't she got scholarships at all these great scots but she fell in love with and i was like i want you to go where you're where you feel comfortable happy that is important
Starting point is 01:10:34 i was like when you open the acceptance letter what were you the most excited about yeah and she said that place and i was like then i got to forget about the money this is you know we're going to do it we did it and then she left the room i was like oh my god we got to write another book christ i'm I got a fucking problem on my hands. And I was like, where can I save money? Where can I make up the different? And I was literally thinking about it. I don't know, man, I probably spend $100 on coffee,
Starting point is 01:11:05 maybe not $100 a week. But like, you know, that's not a crazy statistic, isn't that? Right. You might spend $100. You have three coffees a day. Well, I'll tell you, it's not even coffee in New York. I mean, how much do I spend eating out at restaurants? You're right?
Starting point is 01:11:18 I mean, we talk about the. getting used to normalizing prices. I can remember a time you went out with somebody had dinner, a couple drinks. I'm talking like a nice. Drinking as well, yeah. 100 bucks was like the limit. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:32 100 bucks was like this was a fancy you could drop two, three. Forget about four people. If you're drinking now, you go to a place of drinks are $15. Minimum. You have a glass of wine. It can be 20-something fucking.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Easy. And if you have three glasses of one, yeah. That's why it's better to be at the house. You know what I'm also learning about all of this shit? It's not that I'm learning. It's just reinforcing what we already knew. Every other issue is really some bullshit. I don't give a fuck what party you represent.
Starting point is 01:12:08 It always boils down to the economy. It's always about that money. Cash rules, everything around me, dollar, dollar bill, fucking y'all. This country, I am convinced, would absolutely positively accept dictatorship if we had money in our pocket. Like money is the issue that's making everybody, everybody. Democrats, Republicans in the town halls, they're the ones. The money is what's making people be like, yo, what the fuck? People losing their jobs.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Fucking gas prices going up. The mega million cost $5 now. The mega millions used to be $1.1.000. Played it twice this week. Huh? Played it twice this week already. How many tickets do you buy? I bought one for the $70 million and I try to be like humble.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I go for the $1,000 a day cash thing. Thinking I have a better angle with that. No, why you keep playing it? Let me tell you something. Because it's a habit. I've been doing it since it came to South Carolina back in the early 2000s. Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Powerball, Tuesday, Mega Millions. You play every single week?
Starting point is 01:13:13 Yes. And listen, I buy, I buy, I used to spend $20. I get five Powerball, five Mega. You do the half or you buy them in person? I go in person. Oh, I buy that. I used that. I used to get five powerball, five mega million.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I went in there last week. I'm like, let me get five power ball, five mega million. They was like $35. I didn't do no double play or nothing. They was like, oh, the mega millions went up to $5. What? You think you have a better chance doing it in person than the app? I never see any winners.
Starting point is 01:13:39 The big winners are never like from this app. The most I've won at the $100. The most I've won at $100. Right. I always win $2, $4, $100. And I'm the type of person, I'm appreciative of the little things, Because if you're grateful for the little things, then you get blessed with the bigger thing.
Starting point is 01:13:53 So, boom, I know probably one day I'm going to hit that fucking jackpot. But I have got, I have gone. What? You don't need to keep playing it. Why not? It's a free country. If, like, I'm saying if you were to win. If I was to win, then God had it meant for me to win.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Yes, it is. What are you talking about? I'm saying, like, you don't need to. Like, save it for someone that really do need it. They don't got the luck I got. But you want me to too. I'm supposed to just sit back and not use all of these blessings. I've overcoming so many other life odds.
Starting point is 01:14:29 So I see the odds for the mega billions. It's like one in 400 billion. I'm like, I got that. I'm supposed to just not participate. You know what I mean? Hell no. You already are one of the eyes that made it out of South Carolina. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:43 And you know what? I have no problem paying. If you won that, how much would you give away? Oh, a lot. I mean, that's just what I'd like to do. I never understood philanthropy until I actually started making real money. I actually enjoy it. I literally, and it's not for tax purposes or anything else.
Starting point is 01:14:58 It's like, how can I make this person's life better? You know, having, you know, my Ford family endowment scholarship at South Carolina State or, you know, being able to donate to the food bank, or being in, you know, Charleston, South Carolina. And my guy, former mayor tech tells me, hey, man, you know, you can feed people in Charleston breakfast for a whole, you. if you donate this amount of money. Like, that stuff is like, really? Like, yes. Why wouldn't you use what you have to make somebody else's, you know, life better? So I never really understood philanthropy until I started making money, but I do tell you this.
Starting point is 01:15:33 I always watched my dad and my mom and my grandma, even though they didn't have a lot. They would give what they did have. And honestly, that's what I think is going to happen this summer. I think that we're going to get to the point in this country. where literally, you might need to go to your neighbor's house for a couple of sugar. I'm dead-ass serious. I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:15:58 You laughing, you might not have no diapers, Taylor, not because you can't afford them. It just might not be none. And that neighbor next door just so happened to have a bunch of leftover diapers, you'll tell it, take these. Like literally, we're going to need each other in that way. It ain't going to be a race thing.
Starting point is 01:16:14 It ain't going to be a gender thing. It ain't even going to just be a class thing. It's just going to be like you might be rich and might not have. Just because it's just not available. You don't have the access to. That's it. Simple as that. So I've always, I would give away a lot of it.
Starting point is 01:16:31 I'm sure I would. But the fucking mega million to $5. I can't even afford. Can you imagine not even being able to afford the hope? That's what Carter said to then. I can't even afford to wish. I can't afford to fucking dream. The mega millions and power balls says, hey, you never know.
Starting point is 01:16:52 I can't even afford to never know. Like, just think about that shit for a minute, man. You understand it's Americans, right? It's just little things that give us hope. We don't need much. Like, shit can be fucked up. If there's a little small glimmer, that's all a lot of it is. Big three, go play a number.
Starting point is 01:17:10 How do you think people do that shit? It just gives them a little bit of hope. I can't even afford the hope. I didn't even play the Mega Million yesterday. You said no. I'm like, I can't. do it. That shit is $5, y'all. That was your time. I'm taking it. That was your time, yo. I guarantee God was testing you. And I guarantee God was like, this motherfucker is too cheap to be this rich.
Starting point is 01:17:29 If it was my time, if it was my time, I wouldn't wait. It was. I don't feel like nothing misses you that's supposed to be yours. Yeah, that's what God thought too. He gave you a little obstacle. You're like, I don't want to climb over it. Five dollars? Yeah. By the way, it only takes one. So I do have a new, a new little theory. What I'm going to do is instead of buying five, I'm going to stick to my number, which is $20. I'm going to buy my five power ball. So you buy within the $20. I'm going to buy $2 million. That's God's number.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Seven. That's seven. Yeah, because on the seventh day. On the seventh day. So when I hit, because all you need is one, it's really one. Yeah, it's one. That's always the tale of you talking all of that crazy talk, but all you need is one. So if you got a dollar, if it's your time, you walk in there, get it.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Willie Walker was the port. Little Charlie was so fucking. Little Charlie was so fucking poor. Do you know how poor Charlie's family was, yo? They was all sleeping in the same bed eating cabbage. Living in a fucking shack on the outskirts of town, one chocolate bar, one little quarter or whatever the fuck it was, changed his whole life.
Starting point is 01:18:35 When it's your time, it's your time. Okay? You don't think so? When it's your time, it's your time. Can you play the same numbers? No, I used to, but I just do the quick picks. Oh, you got to play the same number. No, I used to.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Why? Because then if you play the same number, eventually that number will hit. I thought that. If you change your numbers, the number that you picked Monday, that shit could have hit. I mean, you played Tuesday. It could have hit on Monday. I always thought about that in regards to algorithms. I always thought that if you go in there and, like, you play the same number,
Starting point is 01:19:08 like, then that means all those numbers go in the system. And then so those numbers rotate and then eventually somebody hits that. I did always think that. But I don't know. maybe got to play the same thing so what you think man man once i thought i won the the lottery in the daily news they used to give you these uh little scratch-offs and they would print the numbers in the daily news i'm pretty sure and then you would you'd scratch the thing off and if those numbers or letters were present then you won a hundred thousand dollars and i chose a newspaper
Starting point is 01:19:40 that was a week old and i scratched it and the numbers were there right and and and And like, I, it was $100,000. And man, my family found out who I cared about. You should have to know everybody before you got this? No, I didn't shit. I didn't shit. You know what I mean? I was like, yo, I'm like, you know, I'll give my parents some money.
Starting point is 01:20:00 My brother was like, what do I get? And I was like, you didn't scratch it. Right. You know what I mean? You heard it was like, you should it on everybody before you got the money. What you mean? That means you going to do that. What you mean?
Starting point is 01:20:12 What you mean? You're guilty. You can't wait. Can't wait. Never. But it was exhilarating. For that hour before I realized it, my dad let me think that shit too. He just let me walk around the house with this lottery ticket.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Like, I'm the richest guy in the world knowing full well as a weak old newspaper. Did you see that? How they tell you? I found out. I said, oh, fuck, we're not rich. Fuck. Did you see the scandal with McDonald's and the Monopoly? No, whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:38 There was a whole thing about it, right? There was like a documentary about it. Yeah, a guy who worked at the factory where they were made, he would just take all the winning things and give it to his friends. But I thought that the scandal was they never printed the Broadway one, or they never printed Park Place. Like, you always got two out of the three, but the third one, you could never get it. Yeah, but no, he was just, they were making winning tickets.
Starting point is 01:21:00 He would just collect them first. He was in the factory when they're making them. So he just had this. He did it for, I think, 10, 15 years. I mean, that shit was incredible. Peeling that shit open, getting free fries. It was. Fast food is crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I was, went to get a late-night snack. like a meal is $15 now? No. Yeah. A meal of McDonald's. It's like $15. So it happened. Which one?
Starting point is 01:21:21 What you did? No, I got Flurry, but I was just looking at the show. One McFlurrie was $15. No, no, no. A meal is 15, but I went to get a McFlurray. I think the McFurray was like seven. Jesus Christ. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:32 So what do we think, man? It's crazy. What do we think? What's our thoughts? Fast is crazy. What do you mean? What's our thoughts? What's our thoughts?
Starting point is 01:21:39 What's our thoughts on everything that's going on right now? Yeah, what are your thoughts on Trump? I don't even want to I don't even want to can you not make it about Trump? Let me think Make it about him That's fine
Starting point is 01:21:50 Okay What's your I don't want it to make it about it What's your thoughts On the state of America right now I think right now There's a lot of economic anxiety Because nobody really knows what's going on
Starting point is 01:22:01 Nobody knows what's going to happen And I think that The administration would probably say Like that's the way that we Have leverage with all the other countries in the world to change their trade policies or whatever. But the cost of that leverage is 350 million Americans feeling very insecure. And I'm in a very privileged position, right? Like, I got a few bucks. And I'm still feeling it. I'm still going, okay, I got a baby. I got a daughter. I got a mortgage.
Starting point is 01:22:33 I got a, I got, I got, I got a wife. You can go from one percent to middle class real quick. Real quick. So it's like. So it's, so it's, Exactly. No, but you start to think about that shit, right? So it's like, I think that that emotional, the tax that we're dealing with emotionally right now, that insecurity, like you hear about your friend getting fired and you hear about people struggling to get another job and you start going, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, are businesses concerned about growth in hiring? Therefore, they've stopped their hiring. UPS is firing $20 workers. Okay, so like, so think about it, right? So it's like now all those people who lost a job are going to have even more difficult. time getting another job, which just further induces anxiety amongst the population, and an anxious population is not a good population. You want us, if you want to think in like bad terms, if you're the people in charge, you want your society to be pacified and distracted. You want us thinking about sports,
Starting point is 01:23:30 you want us thinking about music, you want us thinking about the dumb shit, and then, you know, business goes on as usual. You don't want us all focus on our next meal. You don't want us all focus on what's happening in the economy and how we're going to provide for our families, because then we start thinking about what the people in power are doing and every decision they make. I think everybody's thinking about that now. Yeah. It's 100%. It's there because, once again, it's all about the economy.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Because here's the thing, you can front on social media but so much. Meaning, like, you can get on social media and act like everything is all good and, you know, act like you ball and act like you got it. Reality will set it. Those shelves will be empty. You can't only frumble so much. And when reality hits, one thing that we all know, when reality hits, it is hard to front about.
Starting point is 01:24:20 You can do it. Do you see what Trump tweeted today? What is that? All right. For context, January 29th, economy is on the up. This is the Trump stock market because my polls against Biden are so good that investors are projecting that I will win
Starting point is 01:24:35 and that will drive the market up. Everything else is tarp, blah, blah, blah. What do you think he treats? tweeted today. This is the Biden stock market, not Trump's. I didn't take over until January 20th. Tariff's will students start kicking in and the company's starting to move
Starting point is 01:24:50 in record numbers, blah, blah, blah. Nah, he got to stop doing stuff like that. I saw him do that the other day at his 100th day speech and he said, like he started, he's blaming, he said something about transgender and I was like, nah, no, no, no. I don't care about that right now.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Yeah, you won the election with that. You got to govern now, buddy. Yep. Okay, you got to govern now. and you won the election with stuff like the trans issue, but you really won because of the economy. You said it yourself. You said you won the election with one word, groceries.
Starting point is 01:25:19 That's what he said. He said, I won the election because of groceries. He said on day one, I was going to make the economy better. And I went on groceries. It's a very simple word, groceries. Like almost, you know, who uses the word? I started using the word. The groceries, when you buy apples, when you buy bacon, when you buy eggs,
Starting point is 01:25:37 they would double and triple the price over a short period of time. And I won an election based on that. You made all those promises. We're not there. Deliver. We're not there. What I would do if I was a young entrepreneur, I would locate the business sectors that are going to be deeply impacted by the tariffs.
Starting point is 01:25:59 I would find small American businesses that are creating those. things at home. A lot of them are not created home, but there might be some that are. There might be some American-made diapers or American-made formula, whatever. And then I would inject as much capital as I possibly could into scaling those businesses. Because if those shelves are going to be empty, they will be filled because people need those products. And the price might be higher, but paying more is better than not getting anything at all. So if I'm a young hedge fund or if I'm a young VC, I am finding those businesses. businesses and I'm going, how can we build another factory as soon as possible?
Starting point is 01:26:41 How can we increase production because people are going to need shit? They're not going to be able to get it. That's what I would do. But I think the most important thing the Trump administration could do right now is you have to do things to instill confidence in the people and you also cannot gaslight us. It's the same thing that the Democrats did before. If you gaslight us into thinking that everything's okay, it doesn't make it okay. You just make us resent you.
Starting point is 01:27:02 So you have to show that there is a solution for this that's going to be beneficial to American people. And what's interesting, when you look at all of these economists, man, I've seen economists on Fox News say this ain't the way. Yeah. You know, when you got conservative economists on Fox News saying the way, they were always saying that shit. And that's the other thing. It's like, yeah, it's just I mean, look, the irony, at least from my perspective of this, is like, I grew up, my father was very adamant about only buying American. He was saying back in the 70, and 80s. We have a manufacturing problem. Too many. If I wanted to get a fishing wheel,
Starting point is 01:27:43 I had to buy an American fishing wheel. If he bought a car, Osmobile, Ford, we could never have any other type of car. Any chance he got to buy American. We even had a big sign up in our house. You know, buy America, like, so that shit was beaten into my head. And I think the instinct is a correct one, right? I just think Trump's the worst possible person to execute the plan. Yeah. And I don't understand what he's trying to do right now because I don't think he actually cares. Well, I can't say whether or not he cares. But I think that that feeling that you have about like you don't know what he's trying to do. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:21 I think a lot of us have that feeling. Right. And it's important that they understand that and they meet us there and that they understand the economic anxiety that's taking place. And you'd hope because whether you like or hate Trump, he is a listener to what is popular. It is the reason why he gets ratings Is the reason why people Gravitate toward him? He won't specifically take something
Starting point is 01:28:44 And run with it If they doesn't have a majority support Oh, if Trump thought supporting trans rights Would get him elected another four times You'd be hosting Mr. America Like he doesn't give a shit Like he doesn't care So that's why it's important
Starting point is 01:28:57 That we echo these sentiments Because that will be listened to I think I heard And to what you were saying about like manufacturing Coming back here I heard an interesting story from my boy, the Spice Man. Shout out to Pete. I played paddle with him.
Starting point is 01:29:10 And he's in the spice business. He's a spice trader. It's like the fucking second oldest job in history, right? And I'm like, what is your business? Well, I have these relationships with people that, you know, have curate spices around the world. And it's important to have these direct relationships because if you don't have them, you're dealing with someone in the third world that is no problem fucking you over because you'll never go back to this random part of India again to deal with them, right?
Starting point is 01:29:33 And he said, and I was like, all right, so why is he goes? I will be honest with you, like having no manufacturing in America is very dangerous. I go, why is it dangerous? He goes, well, like, for example, in our business once, there was this apple sauce pouch. And you actually might have heard this story, Sean, because I think this happened in South Carolina. There's this apple sauce pouch that was, like, produced in Honduras. And what a lot of times these, like, crooked people in the spice business, not Pete,
Starting point is 01:29:57 but the people that he's dealing with, what they'll do is they'll just like drugs, they'll add other things to make the thing way more. Right? Lead being one of them. So this producer of these applesauce packages, and there's this company that was producing them all in Honduras, and the person providing the cinnamon was putting lead in there as well. Like small amounts of lead, but enough. And they were, all the manufacturing of the packets was done outside of the country. So it didn't go through the FDA regulations that we have here in America. They go and they find that there's these like kids having these like severe developmental issues in like these certain pockets. South Carolina, I believe you was South Carolina was one of them. And they started to look into it.
Starting point is 01:30:38 And all the parents kept saying like, yeah, my kid loves these applesaws packets. So they looked in the applesauze packets. They found out that this fucking producer was putting lead into it. And here's a perfect example. It's like you can source products from around the world. Obviously, we're not going to have fucking cinnamon farms all over America. But at least manufacturing them here with the legislation that we have to protect our citizens might be beneficial. Isn't that with the P-PACs too?
Starting point is 01:31:02 Come on. Keep a straight face. Come on. Yeah. Damn it. So. You might have got to. Whether it's sugar and cinnamon.
Starting point is 01:31:19 It's, listen, fuck you. Listen, so whether it's sugar and cinnamon, thrust us, you just have to find a way where you can protect the American people. Oh, I mean. How much, how much of this do we blame on capitalism, right? Because, yes, sure, it sounds good in theory. Let's manufacture stuff in America. But it costs too much motherfucking money
Starting point is 01:31:38 to manufacture things in America. But does it have to? I don't know if it costs too much. But that's my point. Does it have to? I don't think it costs too much. I think that that's a convenient lie that they tell us. I think you can manufacture things here.
Starting point is 01:31:50 And then people go, a cell phone will cost $30,000. I bet you a million fucking dollars that don't cost no $30,000. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Does it have to? They say that, right?
Starting point is 01:32:00 It costs too much to manufacture in America. Does it have to? Why does it? Well, it costs the companies. I don't know if it's going to cost the consumer. But why does it cost the company? Because you got to pay people much larger wages than they are getting paid overseas. So if you brought all this manufacturing back to America, like, and it's factory jobs and it's mass production, like, are you going to pay everybody $15 an hour? Or are you going to pay them $45 an hour?
Starting point is 01:32:22 Well, you know what you do. You're building manufacturers and stop the deportation. And you take the people that you deporting and put them in those factories and pay them those low ones. But on the real, part of the problem is that's kind of slavery. It's not exactly. I didn't say, I didn't say anything about slavery. I'm just saying that you build the factories and you take the people who actually want to work in those factories for those low wages. If you have a sub-girl, you want to find a way to build a fit this, that it can be functioned here.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Simple as that. But we also have to be real. Americans, for the most part, don't want those jobs. Stop it. I don't subscribe to that. No, no. I don't believe that. That's bullshit rhetoric that they tell you.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Well, if they don't stop deporting the people and let them work. No, Americans will do jobs. Even minimum wage is $15. We're paying. I mean, China's paying. Their work is like 306. You think people really want Amazon warehouse jobs? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:33:17 You think people want to work in Amazon warehouses? They do, though. Because they have no choice. But the difference is if you were working at Ford or Chrysler in the 50s, when all those cars were manufactured in the assembly lines, that was a legitimate middle class. job. You could buy a house.
Starting point is 01:33:34 That's what I'm saying. Buy that shit. You can't buy that shit. When I'm a rap here. Who? Wrap your mouth around this dick. You fuck. I saw that way.
Starting point is 01:33:43 I said that. That's what I saw that. Chris. I'm trying to solve problems here. So I'm not going to. But that's when you got to get it off. I have a mouth wrap around this. You can't get it off when we're playing.
Starting point is 01:33:57 You got to get off. You got to get off that serious. Yeah. We get right back to it. You're right. But the cost of living was different back then, Chris. Everything was different. But what?
Starting point is 01:34:09 Capitalism is a huge problem. I don't know. To me, it's capital. It's like if you put profits first, you want to increase profit margin, so you have to pay workers as low as you can so you make the most money. That's what it is. Listen, there are, listen, this is the thing about capitalism is absolutely fantastic. There are things.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Capitalism, fantastic, or has free enterprise. Fantastic. I don't, I'm not smart enough to know, like, the distinct difference between them. But I, let's just, let's assume free enterprise or capitalism. It is fantastic. We love it. It is the best system that we have developed so far. We need compassionate capital.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Yes. And I think a lot, what a lot of people say is, we need some guardrails. For example, minimum wage is a guardrail on capitalism. The true capitalism would not have minimum wage. There are countries that do not have minimum wage. They let the market literally decide. What we've decided is that would be two, exploitative to the worker.
Starting point is 01:35:01 So we put some guardrails. And I think that we do want guardrails, and we have to continue to create new guardrails for new forms of industry. We do this all the time. It's like the fucking rules for getting a divorce were made in the 70s or the 50s. It's like, now things are different. Women are
Starting point is 01:35:18 working. Yes, they're still annoying. But it's a thing that we might have to update a little bit, right? So I think guardrails are something that we're all supportive of. I agree with you. I just don't know why any company. And that's the other thing. I said there's a couple weeks ago here on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:35:36 It's like to build factories in here to do manufacturing, it would take several years. But we're lying to the American people telling them that we're doing this to create jobs. When we know AI is just going to take all of these motherfucking jobs anyway. Okay. So let AI or let robots or machines do it. But at least we should endeavor to bring manufacturing over here. I think we can all agree on that.
Starting point is 01:35:56 Maybe Trump is in the right guy to do it, as you said. But the idea is good, right? But one thing you said before, like right now, venture capitalists and investors should focus on, like, building, manufacturing here and now? You said that fairly. Well, I said the companies that are already in existence, but they're small. Like, how do you scale those companies? Because starting a brand new one is a lot more difficult than scaling something that already exists. But the problem with that is Trump is so volatile.
Starting point is 01:36:23 it's like why would somebody invest in making this small company bigger and then they remove the tariffs. You're 100% right. You're 100% right. The markets are going to be completely unstable the whole time Trump is in office. Like the world's market because I was talking to somebody today and they were like, well, you know, if Trump just stops whiling out, you know what I mean, things will get back to normal? And I'm like, will they? Because if I'm these other countries, I'm going to look for a new big brother.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Because I can't trust this big brother. And even if I got to lean on this big brother for a couple of years, if shit works out with this big brother, I might not ever go back to that one. So that is another- So that is another risk, right? Canada's moving away from all our products. They say that, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:37:05 I mean, there are also a lot of other things that are intertwined in the global economy, like mortgages and these things are pegged to the dollar. You got a pun is Drake if that happens. If Canada moves away from all American products, Drake, Justin Bieber, We can't get no money in America. None? None. All right, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:37:26 You were terrified every time I say anything because you think it's going to fucking slap you. Yo, just calm down. It's not that big a deal, bro. It didn't hurt that bad. He said it didn't hurt that bad. It didn't hurt that bad, bro. That's how it happens, your first time in prison.
Starting point is 01:37:44 That's your first time in prison. I got crazy. He said, ooh. He's not wide open. Who? Like, the first. fucking hour that used to suck the blowpop on the goddamn permission with a little tosy pop back in the day.
Starting point is 01:37:57 mouth wide open like a circle ready for a forked in a... Listen, man, I said a couple of weeks going to podcast too. This is America's fault. And the reason this America's fault is because somewhere along the way, we just forgot how to do things and we forgot how to teach people how to do things. Everybody I know who knows a trade has not been hurting for no money.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Whether it's age back, whether it's an electrician, whether it's a welder. I always salute my girl, Jordan a welder. She comes to the Black Effect Podcast Festival every year. She's a woman who's a welder.
Starting point is 01:38:31 They are making money. We got away from teaching people how to just work. Well, this is good. Like, I think it's really cool to see that there are trades, men, and women making a lot of money because that will inspire the next generation.
Starting point is 01:38:46 It should, but they don't see it. You know, you know, you know one of the greatest shows you ever hosted that should have been way... Jobs that don't suck. Jobs that don't suck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Because Andrew used to go out, it was for MTV. That's for MTV 2, right? MTV 2, yeah. Whoever created that, I always thought that was brilliant. Andrew used to go out and Andrew used to
Starting point is 01:39:04 go to different jobs where these people were making money. But it was things that you probably never thought about. Like peculiar shit? You know, but yeah, I mean, that girl did like the colonoscopies, you know, there was like party photographer.
Starting point is 01:39:16 There was a shout out Carrell. There was like, there was a bunch of jobs that were like they don't really exist. And then there was a guy who found a way to recycle garbage in the ocean. Like there were cool things as well. But I think going back to your trade example,
Starting point is 01:39:29 it's perfect. When people start recognizing that plumbers are making $150,000 a year and they went to college and they got a liberal arts education now they're working at the gap, they're going to start going, maybe I should have spent two years in that trade school trying to get my plumbing license
Starting point is 01:39:42 and now I'm living great. I want to do a show called Lifestyles of the Rich and Not Famous. Because I wanted to highlight people, in this country who are making six figures, sometimes seven figures, and they just went to school and learned a trade. You know, service businesses. Like, if you live near an incredibly affluent area, they need services constantly. I'm not just talking about your lawn.
Starting point is 01:40:06 I'm talking about and your landscaping. I'm talking about the stonework. Like, everything about these people's homes needs to be constantly updated and manicured, and they will pay incredible amounts of money to not have to deal with that. There's so many businesses that can be built around the excess of the American wealthy. And there's a lot of really smart people that find ways to do that. And it's all word of mouth. It's not like you're posting on Facebook advertising.
Starting point is 01:40:32 It's literally, oh my God, my stone guy did this. It was great. Oh, I need to redo my pool. Can you recommend? Look at how many times have you gotten somebody recommended for your house, opposed to you going into the fucking yellow page? Absolutely. So, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:40:44 I'll give you another. I'm going to mention this before, but when we're talking about it, American manufacturing jobs moving back, look at engineering, right? Which is not considered a sexy thing to go to college for. So the biggest, you know the name, I forget, the chip manufacturer that's based in Taiwan. Invidia? No, TMSC or whatever it is. The most important chip manufacturer that's in Taiwan.
Starting point is 01:41:07 I thought it's invidia. I don't think that's the name. They opened a massive complex in Arizona. Yep. And the idea was... In Yoja? What do you say? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:41:18 You got to be faster. And you can't just look at me waiting. Like a dog waiting for it. Yeah, you're just like, what are you doing? This guy's crazy. So, but he picked up his phone to find one. No, I didn't look for one. I was looking for something else.
Starting point is 01:41:40 I really looked looking for something else. You go back, you text and Ben, Chris, tell him this. Anyway, so, so they've built this thing. And actually Trump has pointed to this an example of American manufacturing, but I was talking to one of my wife's cousins in Taiwan who knows people who work there. And basically, it's been slow to get off the ground because at a certain point that they brought a lot of Taiwanese engineers over to basically run it. They've hit a level in terms of the security clearance. They can't go past.
Starting point is 01:42:09 They're not enough American qualified engineers to actually fill these positions because not enough American kids are like. Going into getting an industry. like, no, I'm going to, like, you know, be a media person or, you know, like, you're going to make a lot of money being an engineer and they literally can't fill the positions. So look to my girl, Nila, man, my girl Nila McPherson. Nila is a young, you know, every year we do the Thrill of Possibility Summit in Nashville. And we fly out 50 students from HBCUs to have a weekend of networking and participating panels and all types of other stuff. And about three years ago, a young woman named Nila McPherson was one of the winners. And Nala came up to me and Nala was talking to me about a bunch of different things that she wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:42:54 One of the things she wanted to do was start a podcast. And I was like, well, what's your major? She was like, engineering. I'm just like, you'll stick with the engineering. Like we, like, and I said, if you want to start a podcast, start a podcast. You're hustling backwards. Chronicleing your journey. On the side, do it.
Starting point is 01:43:11 You know, right? But I will give Naila all the credit in the world. not only has Naila continued to pursue her media dreams, she graduates this Friday from Alabama State University with her engineering degree. Oh, you know, Naila, yeah, yeah. I didn't know if she was over it. Yeah, Nile graduates this Friday with an engineering degree
Starting point is 01:43:29 from Alabama State University. So, yes, there are some kids who are still out there focused on what they actually need to be focused on. So salute to Naila. Shout out Nile, man. Yeah, salute to Naila. I did want to tell y'all. some goods because this is a good, I like, I like what we're doing here on the podcast,
Starting point is 01:43:48 because I see a lot of people, you know, they just want to dump. They want to dunk on folks. And they're using this to, you know, just constantly attack, attack, attack. And my thing is this, Trump is already in the White House, y'all. Like, he won already. He's not campaigning. Like, he's in the White House. So we're all Americans at the end of the motherfucking day, we're all going to be impacted on this.
Starting point is 01:44:10 So instead of just telling people, hey, the cells are going to be empty this week, this summer, is this what you voted for? Tell people what they should be doing. Now, you asked me earlier, what were some of the things that were going to be off the shelves and what we should stock up on. Andrew already, I mean, Alex already told you, he stocked upon a lot of electronics and accessories
Starting point is 01:44:27 because of his business. So, smartphone chargers, laptops, tablets, headphones, earbuds, adapters, smart appliances, stuff like that. This is the thing that I think impacts everyday people. Non-perishable food items. If food imports slow, especially from Asian or Latin America,
Starting point is 01:44:42 rice, pasta, dried beans, canned vegetables, fishing meats, instant noodles and ramen, spices and sauces, personal care and hygiene, toothpaste, deodorant, razors, shampoos, soap, feminine products, diapers, and baby wives. This is the big one. Medicines and supplements. So basic over-the-counter medications like your ibuprofen and your allergy meds, and you know everybody needs allergy meds right, motherfucker now. Vitamin and daily supplements, first aid supplies, household goods and cleaning supplies, detergents, surface cleaners, trash bags, sponges, paper towels, paper towels, light bulbs, batteries. Auto and home repair essentials, car fluids, like oil, cooling,
Starting point is 01:45:19 uh, and HVAC are plumbing parts. So. So everything. Every goddamn thing. This is crazy. Trump got a buckle, bro. Trump got to, Trump got to do something, man.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Because China don't give a fuck. Well, they should. They don't. They should, though. If he folds now, now they'll never take him serious when. Who won't take him serious? China. China won't.
Starting point is 01:45:41 He has to stay. He also has to do deals with all the other countries. So if he folds for China and then expects all these other countries do a new deal, they'll be like, nah, let's just... But the country is ain't China, though. No, 100%. But what I'm saying is you have to create unanimous support, and potentially with that unanimous support, you can pressure China.
Starting point is 01:45:58 China, at the end of the day, has to send goods. I'm no fucking economist. I don't understand how this shit works. So don't let me tell you guys. But to what Alex is saying, it's like simply buckling is going to send a message that he's not somebody that they even need to negotiate. with them. And at the end of the day, China does need to sell goods. And we are a massive consumer. We are the most powerful consumer in the world. I think China knows what is currently happening
Starting point is 01:46:22 is not sustainable. It's not sustainable. They just haven't done terrorists. They just haven't done anything this extreme. Right. China knows this is not sustainable. So they can wait it up. Can I ask a real question, though? Yes. Their economy is not that great. Like, no, and they have a major housing crisis right now. But like, you would, you would have bringing all the Mexicans and let the Mexicans build all the past. No, they have two of what. They have two of much housing they have too much housing there's like three different companies out there and they built like entire cities that are empty uh complex they have to you know towers but where we are right now you would have thought that trump ran on a terrorist campaign nobody asked for this and you would
Starting point is 01:47:00 have sworn that like this was a mandate on tariffs and everyone and i'm like where the fuck did this even come for nobody asked for this he'd been talking about it for years but none of us i don't like i'm not being cute. Like, what is his motivation? Like, why is he tripling down on this? It's an interesting, it's a really interesting thought. It's like, it's not like this serves. I guess he did run on bringing jobs back to America and like revitalizing the working class. So maybe this, maybe he believes that this tactic will reinvigorate that sector, but you're right. He didn't run on that. And that's not what people are asking. He didn't run on it, but that's not true, Chris. It wasn't It wasn't one of his main talking points,
Starting point is 01:47:44 but he definitely said he was going to do this. For decades, he's been saying it. And not only did he say he was going to do it, they also told us it was going to be a lot of pain before there was this golden age. Right. They did say all of it. I, what?
Starting point is 01:47:57 They said it on, like, the tweet today. And then there was also a lot of day one, I'm going to do this, that. No, him and Elon said this. They did. I'm not going to say they campaigned on it, like they did the trans stuff or the border or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:48:09 But they definitely told us they was going to do tasks. I'm just saying, for the height that this issue is at right now, the noise around it was not anywhere near this. Yeah, I mean, but the noise is because everybody's going broke and because people are losing their motherfucking jobs. Right. That's the noise.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Yeah. Like, the people want to know, why don't I have a job again? Yeah. Why am I got, why did I get fired? Why is there not another opportunity for me to do it? And then my stomach is going to be, why the shelves empty again? Like, if the shells are, yeah, and then you got to deal with the whole smuggling issue and it's going to be fucked.
Starting point is 01:48:37 It's going to be, it's like I can't even say any. I can't say anything. Just let it wash right over. Yeah, let him wash right out of you. You don't think smuggling is going to be an issue? No, wait till there's someone when everybody fit really figures out what the Tarif is. It's like, Tarif, I thought that was this some shit. Shows you used to stay on the show to get Charlamade.
Starting point is 01:48:58 To be like, Therif, who? You know what I mean? Tarif, ain't that ghost son from power? Let's pay some bills, man, and do some asking idiots, Taylor Gang. Uh, major. Dot Katree says, in honor of the movie's centers, what music era genres would you blend together for a party? Oh, that's easy.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Easy. Now, blend together? Hmm. What would I blend together? Crunk and disco. Wait, what? Crunk and disco. Crunk and disco?
Starting point is 01:49:34 Crunk and disco. So, like, I would take that little John Crunk era, which is one of the greatest errors in music that don't get no motherfucking shine. shine in disco. Like disco was a very high energy. People can't get off the dance floor. In a lot of ways, it was like Crunk. I can take videos from the 80s where people,
Starting point is 01:49:54 our 70s with people dancing to disco and put it to Little John. And you would think it was the same other. There's a great Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5 matched up with that and that the recent song, Crunk ain't Dead, that Little John's on. Really? That's incredible of him doing the robot. Oh, are dancing with Cher? Yeah, it's incredible.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Have you heard people's remix If you heard crunch People's remix of the crump Crump Eric Not crump crunk Crumping is different That's the dance Yes
Starting point is 01:50:20 Yeah But have you Have you heard of Have you heard of crunch What genres would you blend together I would blend together? I would blend your mouth In this dick
Starting point is 01:50:35 That's right I saw back on me from. This is a good one. Here I go. Eric.G. says, the brilliant idiots versus 100 gay guys. Yeah, yeah. Who wins? I'm sucking.
Starting point is 01:50:53 What's that podcast, man? These guys crack me up. Yeah, what are we fighting for? He goes, for $100 million and the dude just had nowhere goes, I'm sucking. He goes, I didn't even ask the question yet. What are we fighting for? 100 to the brilliant idiots first of 100 gay guys When you say brilliant isn't it's just me and shows
Starting point is 01:51:12 Or is it like everybody that's a part of the brilliant idiot's massive Yeah, I got that What do we fight? When you say and what is the verses? Who nuts first? Versus might not be fighting. Who nuts first? Who nuts first?
Starting point is 01:51:25 Yeah. Huh? 100 gay guys versus us. Who nuts first? I gotta know what the versus is about. I don't want to this. Commit to this. There's a trend.
Starting point is 01:51:38 You see the gorilla. I've seen that dumb shit, but that's specific. They said 100 guys versus one gorilla in a fight. This just says brilliant idiots versus 100 gay guys. What you think they're going to do to you? First of all, this is disgusting. Why would we let 100 gay guys run a train on us? They're not running a train.
Starting point is 01:51:59 They're taking it? No, they're not taking it. If 100 gay guys want to take it from us, then we can do it. 100 gay guys are fucking each. No, no, no. Oh, it's a fist fight? That's what I'm trying to figure out when we fistfight. What is it? What is the versus here? We're rap. We're going bar for bar?
Starting point is 01:52:15 We're going bar for bar. What we do it? 100 gay guys versus us, bar for bar. I'll murder him. My gay bar is way better. All right, go. Because mine will be actually gay. Like what? What you mean? What you mean? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:52:29 I got to have some motivation for the penetration. Okay? Oh, me? Motivation. for the penetration, no hesitation. Booty smells like sanitation. Ooh, yeah, that's what I say when I smell it. That's when I say when I smell it.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Stick my dick in your mouth so you can't tell it. Ooh! You can't speak with the balls on your tongue. Yeah, I'm about to come. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 01:53:03 Yeah. Well, so if y'all want a battle rap, we can. do it. I'll take a hundred gay guys down. Easy. Oh, man. This is impressive, man. Are you fighting? This is dope.
Starting point is 01:53:14 Bro. You got gay bars, bro. Candy bars, they sweet. Yeah. Tandy bars, they sweet. Like my meat is a treat. Now you got him started. Put it in your mouth close to your tonsils.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Eat. Oh. Yeah. You need to get him to Kanye. I got he gay Yeah it only works If you're straight Yeah
Starting point is 01:53:41 You know what I mean Umda underscore Sib says How long you think it'll take Traditional media To start putting podcast On TV They did
Starting point is 01:53:51 ESPN is all podcasts Yeah ESPN is Pat McCaffee The Even breakfast They just turn in Yeah Breakfast Club
Starting point is 01:53:58 Has been on a revolt beat We're not a podcast Though We're a radio Yeah It's all TV Is podcasting I get what he's saying
Starting point is 01:54:04 Oh Bravo, that Bravo show is a podcast. Netflix is going that way. Netflix has already said they want to get in the podcast in business. So Netflix is definitely going that way. This is what people watch. I mean, yeah, they got Kill Tony. It's a live podcast and they do that on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:54:17 That's what y'all don't realize, man. I mean, even with brilliant idiots, even with Rogan, anybody, anybody, drink champs, a million dollars worth of a game. All of these videos are just content. This is catalog. Like, you know, there might be a screaming service that said, you know what, let me shut the fuck up. There we go.
Starting point is 01:54:33 There we go. He died Keaton says if Schultz was the villain and sinners, would he have lived or died? I didn't see the movie yet. Damn. But I'm too late, so just tell me if I would have lived or died. He would have died. All the villains died. Well, maybe there's something special about me.
Starting point is 01:54:49 No, no, no, no. Maybe there's something special about me. No, no, no, they all didn't, though. No, not, I mean, the do. Up-de-da-du-do-du-do. What else we got, Taylor? One more. Yep, da, da, do.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Okay, so Austin.J.J. Hughes says, how have you dealt with accepting your body as it ages? Man, that shit is a fight. That shit is a fight. You just fight it off as long as you possibly can. You fight your ability to exercise. I'm out here doing physical therapy two times a week so I can play paddle shitty. Like, it's just, but it is a fight. And you fight it off or else you give up and then you die.
Starting point is 01:55:34 Yeah, I take care of my body way more than I did when I was younger because I know that I can't recover like I used to when I was younger. You know what I mean? Like I don't, I barely drink nowadays, if at all. I don't eat it at all. I love my edibles, though. I stay on my edibles. I do hit training three times a week. You know, I get on my assault bike every day.
Starting point is 01:55:54 But the biggest thing is you just really have to eat right as you get older. Like you have no choice. Like you can do all of that and still not eat right. and those old G pounds will still be on you. It is very hard to keep weight off you. Also, once you get fat, once you get fat, but once you gain a little weight when you're older, it takes for ever. It takes for ever. I used to shed pounds after two shits when I was in my 20s.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Same. Right? I'd take two shits and I have abs again. But when you're in your 40s and you gain like a good little 5, 10 pounds, that bitch stays there for a whole season. And that urge, that urge, that urge to want something sweet. Why is that? After you eat. Why is that?
Starting point is 01:56:35 I lost for dessert. Somebody got to tell me, son. I never cared for sweets as much as I do now. Something about it. It's like I can eat. Like I had a nice step for lunch. I had some grilled chicken. I had a salad.
Starting point is 01:56:47 And then immediately I was just like, where the fucking peanut M&M's at? I didn't get them. But I just had the urge to get something sweet immediately. So, you know, I would, yeah, it's no joke being a certain age and like just trying to keep the weight off. Like, I got on a scale this morning was like, I got to lose at least 13 pounds. And I work out three times a week
Starting point is 01:57:08 religiously. But it's, and I also thought about it too on weekends, sometimes I throw it all away because I get high. And then it's over. And then it's over. Lose control. Same thing with drinking. Like, if I drink, I'm eating dessert until it's done.
Starting point is 01:57:22 If I'm sober, I'll have a bite or two. Yeah. But, no, that's, yeah, so that's it. That's what you have to look forward to. Yeah. It's really awesome. We have two more good ones. Two more?
Starting point is 01:57:34 Yeah. All right, go, hit us. So, based off the main topic you're talking about, RICO underscore Yvost wants to know what a trick you all used to save money. To save it? What the fuck? Mark Cuban said some of the illest shit I heard this week. Somebody asked Mark Cuban, they said, you know,
Starting point is 01:57:52 what would you do with your first $100,000 nowadays? And Mark was like, if I had any debt, like credit cards and shit, I would pay that off. everything else I was just put in the bank. Because he said every, I forgot what the year was, but he said every few years, there's something that happens in the market that absolutely positively is a game-changing.
Starting point is 01:58:13 And you want to get in. And you want to have a little money to get in. And that's the truth, right? Sometimes we get money and people want to start living all of their wildest dreams. They either want to go out and buy shit that they've always wanted to buy or they want to buy what's hot in the moment.
Starting point is 01:58:27 My daddy used to always say, boy, don't let money burn your pocket. Like motherfuckers be spending money like it's burning their pocket. You get your money. Just put it up and let it sit there. That has been my motto forever. I get a big check or a check. I just let it sit.
Starting point is 01:58:41 I'm not in a rush to do anything. Takes crazy discipline, especially when you don't have anything and then you get something because you want to feel like you got something. But I promise you even when I was selling dope, I was the type person that I used to want to, I used to sell dope and I just used to like to save, save, because I used to like to watch that not get bigger
Starting point is 01:58:57 and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. And I'm the same. I have no, I think God I don't have no real vices. I don't buy cars, I don't care for jewelry, I'm not a sneaker head. Like, I don't really have any vices. I really don't. So it's just like I do just like to save money. So my advice to you is just to save it.
Starting point is 01:59:18 What is that smell? I farted out of my ass. Oh my God. That smells like something cooking though. Yeah. It might be something out there, but you're also pregnant. You smell. Yeah, that's something out there.
Starting point is 01:59:28 That's not a fart. That was that. If your butt smell like that, somebody need to eat it because that shit is going to cook. Like, I ain't never, if that was a fart, that shit smelled like something cooking. It might be something out there. And usually I'd be like, oh, this one I was like.
Starting point is 01:59:41 All right. Last one. All right. I got to run. Now test, is being a dad about raising kids or just slowing into your own father? No, raising kids. You're not raising kids. You're not dad.
Starting point is 01:59:59 Yeah. It's not about turning into your father. Like, you should be better than your father. Your father got you to this point, and there's things that you probably learned from him that you probably need to unlearn to be a better father than he was. You know, and there's probably things
Starting point is 02:00:12 that I'm sure we apply to this era that our father wouldn't think about, you know, applying. Because I apologize to my kids every goddamn. And your dad still hasn't apologized to you. No, not that I remember, but I apologize to my kids every day. I am such a pussy. I mean, I'm trying to put eye drops in one of my daughter's eyes last night,
Starting point is 02:00:33 and she is having a fit about me doing eye drops. So I'm just like, well, fine, then let the allergies burn your eyes. You go lay in the bed, whatever, whatever. I tried to go lay in the bed after saying that shit. I had to get back up and give a whole Mark Luther King's. I have a dream speech about why I said what I said. I apologize. I just, you know, I'm, I did some stupid shit.
Starting point is 02:00:57 I had this whole conversation. Has anybody in here ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? My nine-year-old's like, I know the story. And she's the one that's so much like me. So as I'm trying to tell the story, she's like, that's not how it went. And I'm like, damn, it's right? So my six-year-old is all ears, eyes, she's all engaged, whatever, whatever. And I'm just basically explaining to them, you cannot overreact to everything.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Because when there's something actually wrong, we won't really know. So just because we're trying to put eye drops in your eyes, the drops don't burn. Yeah. She was like, well, it just fear is weird. I understand that. Okay? But you got to be a little bit uncomfortable to get comfortable. So once you put these eye drops in your eyes, it'll make you, you know, have a better night's sleep.
Starting point is 02:01:41 So now can I put the drops in your eyes? No. I'm going to bed. Okay. I'm going to bed. All right. But yes, yeah, and I apologize. I apologize.
Starting point is 02:01:55 And I apologize again this morning when she woke up. Like when I'm on the FaceTime with her, I'm on her. She's like, I accept your apology. I understand. Do you think if you have daughters or if he had sons, do you think it would be different? I really don't know. I can't even answer that question. I have no idea, man.
Starting point is 02:02:10 It's just. You'd be different. Yeah, be different. This motherfucker would be tough as hell when I can't. Thank God. You don't have to be on boys, right? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:02:20 Boys need fear. Always need fear. Do they? Yeah. I need fear. I need fear. know if any kid needs fear, Chris. I think that's the problem. I don't think any kid
Starting point is 02:02:28 needs fear. I think the fear I had for my father kept me out of situations. I want to love my kids have for me to keep them out of situations. I got love too, but I knew I would get physically manhandled basically. I don't know if that's good. I don't know if that's... I don't know if that's... I don't know if that's...
Starting point is 02:02:44 I want my kid to feel bad if they you still cross the street. What? You still cross the street without looking for away. Yeah. So how good is fear That is true. You know what I mean? It just made you angry.
Starting point is 02:02:57 All fear did is made you upset. Now you lashing out. You're trying to lock up everybody on a boathed. You know what I mean? This is daddy issues? This is this whole time of the daddy issues, Chris. I don't even know how you guys connected to it. It's what we do, Chris.
Starting point is 02:03:13 As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit. You're right, too. It's the brilliant idiots podcast.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Thank you for listening. Thank you.

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