The Brilliant Idiots - New Blue Sun Rays (Ft. Glasses Malone)

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

This week Charlamagne is joined by Glasses Malone and they discuss Andre 3000's flute concerts, changing music preferences, endorsing albums, and double standards in relationships. They also discuss the influence of rappers on the culture, the impact of diss tracks, and the bias in award shows. They touch on the importance of mental health and the challenges they have overcome. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm about to be out. I'm going on a spiritual retreat, ladies and gentlemen. I'm going on a little spiritual retreat for the next, you know, 48 hours. You know, I'm really big on, um, mindfulness and all things, mental health. And I'm getting an opportunity to go on a really cool retreat for the next 48 hours, which I am very excited about because last night I got to see Andre 3000 perform. All of y'all claim to love Andre 3000.

But have you gone to one of his flute shows yet? Huh? Have you? Have you? I'm not saying. Have you gone? Alex is here, by the way. Taylor is here.

We got my man Glass and Sloke. be checking in in a in a second but have you heard the flute album Alex first of all um i skip through it yes what do you mean you skip through it how do you skip through a flute album like you don't even know i thought he was pump faking and i thought he was gonna have some bars on it so i was like skipping through the song to see if there was a verse on any song and there wasn't and then that's it no y'all niggas don't deserve words i'm not into flute music that's not my thing crazy. You like the spa? Yeah, I don't go listen to the songs or the albums that are playing at the spa. Yeah, but you like the spa music. No, I like what's happening at the spa. If they had

hip-hop on, that would be even better. No, it would. Yes, it would. The whole thing about the spa is the ambiance. Like, music is a frequency. Music is a vibration. So when you're, you know, in the spa and you're about to get a massage or you're about to get a facial, you want to hear that nice, calm, soothing music, that music that, that feels like a breeze. You know how like a light, some of a breeze feels? That's what you want. And that's what Andre 3000's flute music is. That's why whenever I hear people say they don't like 100,000's flute music,

I'm like, yo, your nails dirty and shit, you know, your feet, your toe nails, your toe nails, but no, yours aren't. Because you go through the spot. But I'm saying, most who don't like Andreth, 3000's flute album, their feet and their nails are dirty as shit. They ain't had a facial forever. Their muscles is mad tight because they ain't had a massage

and who knows when. Andre 3000's album is a soundtrack for brothers like myself who understand self-care. And when I went to that show last night, when I went to that show last night, he had it at, I can't remember the name of the church. It's in Brooklyn.

It holds about a thousand people, sold out, of course, lying down the block. you know, merch, everybody buying up the merch. And what I appreciated about that moment was what I saw on that stage was a free man. Ain't none of y'all niggas as free as y'all be acting. You know why y'all not free? Because y'all slaves to the algorithm.

Andre 3000 is not a slave to the algorithm in any way, shape, or form. I tell y'all all the time, you want to be a surfer or you want to be a wave. Most of y'all is just surf was riding waves. Andre 3000 has been his own waves since the day he stepped foot into the hip-hop industry. And now he's still doing things on his own terms, playing a goddamn flute. And not just one flute, an assortment of flutes, and he got a band. So anybody out there, man, if new blue sun, yes, that's the name of the tour, the new blue sun tour. If the new blue

sun tour comes to your city, go get you some of those new blue sun rays. And it ain't for everybody. It ain't for everybody. It's like I'm telling you, man, a lot of us and I'm starting to see a lot more people catching up. A lot of us been on our healing journey for a long time. But question, have you ever been to a flute concert before that wasn't it, Andre?

Why the hell would I do that? That's what I'm saying. So why would you go to this one? Because it's Andre 3000. Yeah, but he's not giving you the Andre that you want. Why not? Here's the thing. It's not about the Andre that I want. It's about the Andre that exists in this moment.

And if you've always, you know, if you've always been a fan of somebody and you've been a fan of their art, you're always going to pay attention to whatever art it is they're putting into the ecosystem. Oh, shit. Why you shake your head like that, then? That's not true.

Because. If you go up to Kanye, when you were a Kanye fan at one point, and now you don't care at all about his reason. I said multiple times on this podcast, we're always going to check for Kanye's art. Kanye has put out so much great art that we're always going to check for it. Whether it's good or not, that's up to him.

But we're always going to check for it. $150,000, you know, is a person, when he drops the verse, we listen. He drops the flute album, we listen. But once again, for somebody like me who's been on their healing journey, who, you know, enjoys that type of therapeutic music

who looks at music is medicine, I love the flute album. Like, I promise you, man, I was sitting in the concert. I'm sitting in the pew at the top and I'm just watching. He got like this ill light show on stage, but this light show is like,

the lights are doing all these weird things and you're listening to the flute. I meditated, I meditated like three or four times in the concert. Like you really might fall asleep. Not because it's boring, but because Yeah.

No, not because it's born, but because that's what that type of music does to you. Like, you really just had me too relaxing. Think about it. I'm a person that deals with really bad anxiety. Y'all know I don't like to be out nowhere. So if I'm sitting in a room full of strangers, 999 other people, and I'm so relaxed that I'm sleep, like, wow, like, my eyes are closed and I'm not thinking about

somebody punching me in the back of the head after me for a drop or nothing. I'm just relaxed. Man, Andre 3000 is setting the mood, man. He's setting the right energy. Yeah, but why would you have to leave your house for that experience? Like, you want to be relaxed and at peace at home.

Like, I'm not going to put clothes on, go out into the environment, be around 995, 99 people just to hear some music. It's my support, Alex. Damn. You know what, Alex, you know, Alex, you make a good point because, you know, I don't want to give away too much from the show, but it's like a jam session in a lot of ways, right?

So it's Andre 3000 and it's his band. So you might not hear the same things every night. What I would have liked? Oh, it's like going to like a jazz show. When they're just like kind of like riffing and okay, okay, okay. Now that's different. I thought you just. No.

Peaceful flutes the entire time. Okay, okay. I actually called it Love Jones 3,000, because if you've ever seen the movie Love Jones, it's one of my wife's favorite movies, that in the color purple, the original, not to know it. But if you ever seen Love Jones, they go to this club called The Sanctuary.

And in the sanctuary, you know, that's what they, you know, it's that vibe, it's that frequency, it's that energy, everybody snapping. It felt like Love Jones 3,000. I'm not saying 3,000 because that's his name. I'm saying 3,000 because it felt like a few, futuristic version of being in the sanctuary. But what I wish Andre would have done,

and maybe this is something he can add in the future, I should have told him this last night, but I just thought about it just now. But I wish that the recording, like everybody that came to that show, I wish they could buy the live recording of that show. I wish as we left, there was like some link we could download

to go purchase the live version of that show later. Because every city Every city is getting something new You know So to your point Yeah I want that vibe That vibe I felt last night I want that vibe

I really do But yes If the new blue Sun Tours Go get you some of those new blue sunrace man I'm telling you I should endorse in his In his album as well

I'm sure they will I'm sure in the moment They're going to be licensed In 1303 thousands of music And I mean I just really appreciate it. Andre is dope. You know, I'm not one of those people that feels like Andre 3000 got to give me a rap album.

Like, I'm not that guy. I feel like Andre 3000 is giving us enough between all the Outcast projects, between all the features, between, you know, the love box, speaker box, the love below. I don't need Andre 3000 to give me a rap album. Not that. I personally, I personally don't. might feel otherwise, but I personally don't. But yes, man, like I said, make sure you go check out Andre 3000's new blue sunray toy.

If you haven't, man, when it comes to your city, I think he's going to California next. It is definitely a great day, night. Take the one you love, okay? Go experience that energy. Go experience that frequency. Go experience that vibration. Salute to the good brother Andre 3000. What else happened this week, Taylor?

Put me on. Okay. For all means necessary. Oh, God. Did y'all see Stevie Wonder Mariah Carey? Stevie Wonder didn't see Stevie Wonder Mariah Carey. Stevie Wonder Mariah Carey.

Is this a real Grammy? I haven't seen one in so. Oh. It says Stevie Wonder deserves an Oscar for pretending to be blind. People don't believe he's blind. See, he shall be a gentleman. Give him, give her the mic. She's just hilarious.

I love Stevie, but Why do they say he pretending to be blind? He looked pretty blind. People think that he's not blind because at some award show, someone shouted him out, and he actually waved. But fucking, like,

they cut off the part where someone's telling him, like, yo, he's waving at you, whatever. But, y'all generation is the dumbest motherfucker. I hate to be that older guy that always has to say that to y'all. But y'all really are the stupidest motherfuckers that ever walk the face of the goddamn right.

Do you realize that when a person is blind, all their other senses are heightened? Do you all realize that? Do y'all wait at the understanding, do y'all understand the way Stevie Wonder receives sound is totally different? Like he receives sound like an insect almost. Like an dolphin.

A dolphin, damn, like a bat. Like this. Like what are you talking about? He can hear somebody say his name, and he's going to turn and wave to him because he knows exactly what direction that person is in. But also, I went to a Stevie Wonder concert, and people don't often take his jokes here,

or he just likes to play around people, because India, I re came out, and he was like, I like your yellow dress, and he's clearly just making fun. Hey, glasses. Was he wearing a yellow dress? She was wearing a yellow dress. But you can, like, it's made, like, he's, like,

he's making jokes out of it. I'm sure somebody told him that she was wearing a yellow dress. I saw Stevie Wonder one night. Actually, the Loke just pulled up. I saw Stevie Wonder one night in LA. I can't remember the name of the hotel. There was this hotel we used to stay at. And it was like off in the cut.

It wasn't like the SLS Beverly Hills or like the Four Seasers. It was like this nice hotel that was just like off this street. I don't know if it was. Is this off Pico? Does that sound familiar, glasses? Off Pico. A million. What about it off picco?

Did any luxury hotels over there? Luxury hotels off pico. I'm coming from downtown, driving up. Yeah, now it's too luxury. That's kind of, you have to go really west to get to some luxury on pico. Well, this was a, this was a really nice hotel. Every time I used to stay there, I used to see people, but it was kind of like on the low. And this was like 2000.

Man, this had to be like 0,000, maybe 0, 2008. I saw Stevie one day and there with a beautiful woman one night. Beautiful woman walking down the hallway. And I'm like, oh, shit, that's Stevie Wonder. And I said, I was a little drunk. I said, Stevie, if there's any doubt, you got one. If there's any doubt, you got one with you. You got to tell me about that flute concert.

It was amazing. I was out like, yo, man, I don't, I, here's my thing. with artists, right? I don't have any expectations for artists. I don't go in there thinking I'm about to hear Southern Playlists in Cadillac music. I'm not about to hear AT aliens. I'm not about to hear speakerbox level below. I listen to New Blue Sun. I like New Blue Sun because that's a frequency that I'm on, Saturday morning, Sunday morning at the house in the kitchen with the wife and the kids. That's on. That's playing. Like, you know, you know. Y'all cleaning up to New Blue Sun? Absolutely. I play a play when we just cooking breakfast. I play it with, I play it what I'm

want to meditate and literally that's what I got. He had it in a church. It was in a church. And I think he did that in Brooklyn, but last week he did it at a jazz club. So the stage is set. And I told him earlier, man, it felt like Love Jones 3,000.

It felt like we was in a futuristic version of the sanctuary. And he got like the lights going. And it's just like these ill lights that are kind of just like hypnotize you. And as you sitting there, if you just really just let yourself go and feel the frequency and the vibration, you're going to find yourself meditating. Like, I literally took a nap.

Not awesome, like, because it was orange, just because I was super. No, it's that kind of, yeah, it's really like, it's really like good music to sleep to. Yes. You know, funny, I think we all walked into it, thinking Ron Burgundy. Ron Burgundy?

Yeah, you know, like solos. Like, you know how Ron Burgundy played the jazz flute and Anchorman. I think we came out of it with something a little bit more like, like I said, it reminds you of that stuff that, you know, when you play,

like you're going to sleep, like the rain. Yes. He could do it like to help people sleep better. Yes. It was cool. And I respect it because there's the thing. Andre has been living this life for at least 20 years.

Like this ain't like he didn't just wake up and say, you almost start playing the flute. He's been doing it for 20 years. He's been walking around the world playing the flute before he even thought about saying, you know what, here's some music. Here's a, here's an album. You know what I mean?

Like, this is not something he just decided to wake up and do, you know, yesterday. So I respect it personally. But glasses froze. I thought he was just looking at me, he all judgmental. Like, he had the super

judgmental look on. I thought he just, you know, judgmental. I'm sorry, we're doing this by Rivers Cycle. Like I said, man, I'm about to be out. Or I'm going to

Oh yeah What is that? What is your spiritual You're going to I tell you all I tell you all when I come back Oh I tell y'all when I come back

What else we got, Taylor? Um, well we were just talking about Kanye So are you a friend of his new music video Or no? I didn't watch it. You didn't hear it at all? No

I saw it on the shade room and I was scrolling through it, but I wasn't interested. I'm not like, oh, I don't mean this in a disrespectful way. I'm just not interested in hearing the artist's kids. Okay. She's not, she's only in the first part. She's not, and then Ty Dahlick comes in. Yeah, I'm just, I'm, I'm honestly not interested.

Like, you know, that didn't catch me. Like, I'm not, I mean, you know, it probably, it might be dope. I just haven't given it a listen. Like, it hasn't piqued my interest to. It's not. I'm curious. Why aren't you interested? fit in hearing people's kids.

Like, what if she has, like, Jackson 5 abilities? She doesn't, but... I'm just saying you never know until you listen to it. Yeah, you don't know. That's a good point. I mean, I was raised up a good point, but I'm... Put it like this, if I heard Jackson 5 ability, she would have had me in the first five, six seconds.

And I think it's so whack when people critique people's kids, even though, you know, it is music and they are putting music out there for public consumption. Like, should you even be great? grading this? Like, would we be even, if Northwest wasn't Kanye's child, you know, even when Drake's son put out a rap record, if Drake's son wasn't Drake's son, when we'd be even critiquing their music or we would just say, oh, these some kids having a good time. Yeah.

Like, it's weird to grade them the way we try to grade their parents. You know what I mean? Yeah. But is it weird for the parents to put them out like that? No. You think it's weird for them, too? It's not weird, but it's not weird. I just don't, I haven't heard why they would want to yet.

But I feel like. I just haven't heard why they would want to. Like I, if you Joe Jackson, you know why you let Michael get busy. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Like if you're Joe Jackson, we can listen to Michael at that age and understand why Michael got busy. I guess maybe that's what I'm trying to say. For me, it's like, if y'all are going to do it, let's really do it.

Like, it don't feel like, it don't feel like they're, they're taking it serious. Mm. It don't feel like the parents are taking it serious. I don't know how serious I should take it, you know? Yeah. It doesn't sound like Bow Wow, uh, rapid. Like, Bow Wow had, he was a kid, but he was actually nice. Yes.

Yeah. First time we, I mean, first time I heard about wow was on our senior hall show when he came out and freestyle, I think, when Snoop performed, but I'm talking about when he signed what you made, Dupree. We heard records. Like, we heard, like, well put together crafted records. You know, I haven't heard that yet.

I mean, it's cool. Like I said, you know, Drake's son stuff was cool. And, I mean, what I hear from North is cool, but I hear like, I hear like my daughter's friends walking around reciting that. You know, well, Miss West, like, I'm literally, I've heard them reciting that. So, I mean, that's, it's not for me.

And it shouldn't be for y'all grown-ass motherfuckers either. I don't know. I would say, though, it sounds like, I remember when she first put it out Northwest, but now with like actual hearing the whole music, uh, song, the songs, so it doesn't sound bad to me.

And I once thought. You shouldn't even be critiquing it. Why? I understand. I heard you. But how old is you? It's on 11 or something, 12 or something. But,

I mean, listen. Yeah, I don't know. It'll be a good look for her. I actually liked, um, that little snippet that was on Drake's album with, with his son. I never listened to the full song after they put the full version out,

but when he just put that little like chorus part on it, like I thought that was actually dope. Like it actually added to the song and it was good. Tell me a time kids haven't sounded good on a record. Oh, they kids? I mean, that's true. You get a kid singing a melody on a record. It's going to sound good. Yeah. You can hear G? Can you hear me now? Yep. Yeah. You can hear you. Okay, there we go. Shit.

All right. Okay, so let's, all right, G's with us now. I want to go back to, before we come back to the kids, gee, does Andre 3000 need a solo album to be considered one of the greatest MCs of all time? Yes. Yes, you have to have a solo album. At least one?

Why? To be considered a solo rapper to have a solo album? Nah, just to be considered one of the coldest rappers of all time. Like, he hasn't given us enough. work with the Outcast albums for that and the features? That's why it's Outcast. It's why it's Outcast. But we know he can rap.

Sure. Next to Andre 3000. I mean, next to Big Boy, you mean. Well, yeah, next to Biggs. Forgive me. I mean, it's hard when you carry in, like, you carry. Listen, Andre 3000 is one of the coldest emcees you're ever hearing your life, right? He's like unbelievable.

But it's a different thing to carry a body of work completely by yourself outside of just creation, but even marketing it yourself. You know what I mean? You stuck in a different position. And that's why it's fair for us to judge him as part of the greatest group in the history of hip hop, which is outcast, but not as a top 10 solo rapper. To compare him to other solo rappers who carry, you know, the burden of the work, the body of work.

Now I understand that. I love Andre. He's not in my top five. He's not in my top seven. And it's probably for those reasons. But he is one of the best to ever do it. And the illest thing about, Dre, I was listening to Southern Play Alistic Cadillac music this morning.

Him and Big Boy, the way they evolved as rappers over the years compared to the Southern Play, Alist, Cadillac music, it's unbelievable. No, man, outcast is unbelievable. Like, Outcast do the dance, you know what I mean? And Andre is a huge reason why Outcast is fantastic. We just got to remember Big Boy is a really important and more than capable MC. Even if we enjoy what Andre 3000 do is because Big Boy is there to, you know, allow what to happen. André goes out of his way to not be regarded as a solo act.

And it might be a disservice to even his desires and Big Boy when we consider him that, or like we solo him out as much as we do as this solo rapper, especially comparing them to guys who have released bodies of work by themselves. But, I mean, make no mistake, you know, Andre, it's the reason why Outcast is the greatest rap group ever. You know, Andre 3,000 is one half of it. I'm not arguing. I'm not arguing that. It's between Outkast and Wooltank.

I know for you is between Outcast and probably West Side Connection or NWA. No, just outcast. By they sell. You know, Wu-Tang, I really got to, I've been growing to really enjoy Wu-Tang. Like Rizzo has risen high inside of my producer top 10 count. Like I didn't even, you know, he don't get enough credit. Really? Rizzo is unbelievable.

Oh, he's top five to me. Wu-Tang is... Yeah, see, I would have, see, he wouldn't have been up there before for me. You know what I mean? Don't get me wrong. I heard all Andre,

I heard all the, excuse me, Wu-Tang stuff and the different things, but when you really unpack everything he did, like reading about, you know, what he had to pour together, it's different. Like, he's special. And his sound,

his sound is like, it's not as polished as other people's stuff, but, man, it don't lack in soul, man, it overcompensates with soul and feet. And, you know, really to understand what hip hop is about, I would play probably a risal beat, you know, for everybody to me, making something out of nothing what, you know, what hip hop really represents. Oh, I say that all the time. If aliens came down right now, they were like, yo, let me hear what hip hop sounds.

Like, I would let them hear only built for Cuban lakes from Rayquan to Shep and Ghostface. And I would let them hear Thug Motivation 101 by Jeezy and Snoop Dogggy style. I would probably pick songs. I probably would play cream. Like just the instrumental, the cream is just without the words. It's like, how did you make that out of nothing? Like, you know what I mean?

Like, that's the greatness of hip hop. Like, listen to that. Like, you know, he didn't know anything. I remember meeting Dr. Dre in 2005 and him explaining to me how much he didn't know about, he couldn't play the piano. Like, this is 2005. You know, this is,

you know, roughly, what was that, 23 years into the game, and he's just learning how to play the piano. So this is post, you know, all of the stuff he did with, you know, surgery, you know, world-class record crew, 2NWA, breaking DOC, breaking, breaking, uh, breaking Michelet, you know, breaking, uh, you know, himself, breaking Snoop Dog, breaking exhibit, you know, to, from out of the,

underground, even though Steve Rifkin did a lot of the work, breaking M&M. You know what I mean? Like, that's crazy to not know how to play an instrument. Yeah, but he's still a producer because he got to hear. And he know what he wants things to sound like. So he can have like an orchestra in the studio. He can have daz and whoever else and be given direction, DJ pool and be given direction. You know, you mentioned Cream.

And Cream is the greatest hip-hop acronym of all time. Cash rules, everything around me. and I'd put it as like like if I had to play a beat for like an alien like I'd probably play cream like if they was like what's hip hop and that's crazy coming from somebody that grew up on the West like

but the more I listen to it is just like that's truly taking something out of nothing that's not having a keyboard player in the room yeah you know what I mean that's just taking something off of vinyl and giving it a feel man that Risa is something special man he don't get enough credit man

It is. Unbelievable. You know, if aliens came down right now and they saw the acronym cream and then they looked at the internet yesterday, they would think that that stood for Cox rule everything around me because the most disgusting thing, the most disgusting thing I saw online yesterday, man, was color commentary about Drake's dick.

What the fuck is up with people, man? He said a little jazz. I like a good gay joke. I don't have no problem. with it. But yesterday was ridiculous. Like, there's some shit you can just ignore as a human. There's no reason for me to see headlines of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, commentating on Drake's penis.

People desperate to, to, to align themselves with success. So it don't matter. He could have did anything and they're going to align with them. Who built platforms? What are you talking about? You must not have been paying no attention. I saw about three or four headlines yesterday about Drake's penis. I was looking at them shit like, this is dick bait.

That's what you called. That's dick bait. Them dick is like, if you're getting on your platform talking about Drake's penis for views and likes, that's dick bait. Like, it's kind of crazy, y'all. Didn't even have you. Well, I'll tell you from a girl's point of view that. I don't, we don't want to hear nothing from a girl friend of me. Why?

He sounds jealous. He sounds jealous. We're not even talking about what you want to talk about. What you want to talk about. We don't want to talk about it. I'm trying to tell you why people, at least for the females, why they were reacting to it.

I didn't see no women. That's the crazy boy. I didn't see no women talking about it. I saw guys. It was God, but it was a lot of white boys. So that's the white boy shit. I will say that. I didn't see a lot of brothers talking about that shit.

I saw white boys going crazy over Drake's dick. So I can't. I don't want to put that on everybody. but I'm just like, man, y'all ain't got nothing else to talk about. It was a slow news. Like, it got to be, man. Like, and it's like, you know, it's like, it goes back to what we was talking about with the children, right? We was talking about kids, glasses.

We was talking about Kanye's daughter making music now, I guess, and Drake's son rapping. To me, that ain't even nothing to care about. If it wasn't Kanye's daughter, if it wasn't. Kanye's daughter, if it wasn't drink, son, we would just be like, oh, those, we wouldn't even be paying it no attention. It'd be like, oh, some kids rapping. We wouldn't pay no attention unless it was unbelievable.

Michael Jackson, Jackson, 5 level type shit. Yeah. That's like LeBron's son at USC. It's like, y'all days. I was like, really? They're being too hard on him, though. But that's the problem when you follow that type of greatness.

You know what I mean? You're going to have it out. It's definitely going to get you, you know, an easier trip to destination, but, boy, you're going to be under a microscope. And that's what's happening in the North. That's what's happening to Drake's kid and all of that, man. It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough if people look at them with the expectation of them being as great in that field as their parents. But to me, somebody like, Bronny, already won.

You was good enough to get a scholarship to USC. I don't know if he was even good. Why did you say that? You figured that, man. It's good business to have LeBron's son at your school, man. It's just a great business. I mean, I don't know, like, again, I haven't watched a lot of him. I've watched him hoop, but I remember him being like the third best player at high school.

And it's really rare that the third best player at the high school, you know, gets a D1, you know, scholarship. I mean, it is LeBron's kid. Maybe that gets him in NBA. You know, and I, we talked about this before years ago, see where we just talking about black people need to practice, you know, more of that family. Nepotism. You know, that nepotism and putting their kids on. So I'm all, I hope Brian get him in the NBA. I hope he's able to, you know, get a million dollars, millions of dollars of contracts and shoe deals.

I mean, if that's your dad, same thing for North. Same thing for Drake. Like, I hope that kids do well. I hope we start to practice that. I hope that becomes a part of what we do as black people as well. I'm not against it, but I think you still have to be somewhat good for the nepotism to really work. Because it ain't like people are running around screaming,

oh, man, Brony only got the scholarship because of Braun. Like, Brony has been good enough to be able to get to USC. Nah, nah, nah. Why y'all keep saying, nah, man? He was like a top 20 high school player. Nah, man. Man, top 20 high players get D1 scholarship glasses, man. I don't think he was a top 20 high school.

Yes, he was. Look it up, Taylor, Alex. Ronnie James was definitely top 20. I understand the rankings, but again, being LeBron's son comes with benefits. Like, he probably wouldn't be a top 20. Did you see, I saw a clip of Russ on Flagra. Right? And Russ was talking about how labels fake screams, right?

I saw that. But he was saying you can't do that with artists that aren't already. popular. Like, if an artist that's already popular and they got 400, 500 million screens, you can bump it up an extra 300, 400 to get it to 900 minutes. I think it's the same way with this. Like, Bronny is good enough to get a look at a D1 school. And if it's a school like USC, they're like, yeah, that's Braun's son bring him in. Look, he's a four-star recruit, man. he was a four-star recruit in high school. Yeah, but that's all the same rankings.

Like, LeBron is being a good father. Shout out to Brian. But, like, he's probably like a D-2, D-3 guy. Wow. 13-14s, game, five rebounds, almost three assists, two steals. That's not phenomenal. Yeah, that's not crazy numbers. But he's not like, he's just a four-star recruit.

He's not a five-star recruit. Probably like a three-star. God, damn, classes. I mean, listen, if we being honest, I don't, I don't want to talk about nobody kid. Like, it's one thing to be critical over, you know, to get greatness people. So I don't want to be hypercritical. I'm glad everything worked out with his health. You know, I hope he gets to the NBA and gets on the team and gets to play with his dad.

This is kind of, like, everybody knows, like, I pretty much hate LeBron fans. Like, you know, they're probably, between them and the barbs is the worst fan base. in the history of the free world. Right? So it's like, I'm not a fan of LeBron fan, so I don't really necessarily check into the game as much. With LeBron, I just enjoy it. He's a Laker.

He hooping. But I'm really rooting for him to play on the same team with his son. Like, I want to see something like that happened in my life. I mean, the fact that LeBron James is still so good at 38 years old that we know he could still be around in two or three years, for that to happen says a lot. Well, again, I don't know if he's still good enough, but he's still worth enough money in the business. We're not in the playoffs.

It's really bad over here. I don't know if you've been watching it for us. It's pretty bad. No, but he's still hoping for his age, though. Nah, he's just getting a lot of opportunity for his age. No, man. We're doing. What broad average and Taylor?

Glass is just being glasses right now. It's just the wins. It's the wins. We don't care about the, the, the, the, the, the empty stats. Like him and AD in 10th place is just, that shows you he's not in the prime of his career. I don't even think it's Braun.

I think that he don't have the pieces around him, which is you, which by the way, by the way, has been the story of LeBron's career, by the way. You ever notice that that is the story of his career and his career only historically? That's his, but that's the truth, though.

LeBron James, for the type of player he is, he needs those pieces around him to get the best out of Brown. Taylor, LeBron, not Brody. Oh, God. Come on, Taylor. Oh, by the way, this is how you know Bronny James making his own name. If we told Taylor to pull up LeBron James,

she pulled up Bronny James' stats. Brony making his own name. Bronnie averaging 10 a game this year. I didn't know. Ballin. Glassens, you said something about the Bobbs, man. The Bobbs might be the worst fan base in the history of hip-hop,

but they're the greatest fan base in the history of hip-hop. Oh, if you, Nicki Minaj, you are like, The greatest. Not just Nikki. But if you're anybody else, but not Nikki Minaj or not in Nikki Minaj is like Wheelhouse of graciousness, your ass is done. Yo, Megan the Stallion has got a number one record in the country right now. Megan the Stallion hits is number one on Billboard because of Nikki Minaj and the Barb's.

Nikki Madag and the Barb's are the greatest promotional team ever, not just for Nikki, for other people. Because if she want to have a 200,000 first week, she need to come out with a dish record and get on Nick, kick it off. You think she should do another? What? Yes. Because what happened is your song will do well, but your album won't.

You got to drop the video, and the only way we can hear it is a part of your album. Like, you got to drop your, you got to eat through the situation. Remember when Jay dropped takeover? Remember, that was a response to the little kind of shot, gnaz through, and then J. Drop takeover, and then Ether came and sold, Stillmatic. Like, we didn't care about it. We don't remember the singles on Steelmatic. The only thing we remember about Steel Maddock is Ether.

Oh, you don't? Come on. Why do you say these things, Glass? The singles. One mic was phenomenal. Yeah, but that was like the fourth single. That was the one. Like, one mic was phenomenal.

Yeah, so, $700,000 before that. I remember one mic. One mic was phenomenal. Yeah, that was fantastic. That album was great. It's actually my second favorite nine's album. But, man, hip hop is all about when you get those chances. those moments, like how Pock realized, like, this is my moment.

Like, what am I going to do to market myself? You know what I mean? And I think this is Meg's chance to truly launch herself as a brand into the next level. Like, take on the beat. Everybody likes a fight. We want to see the fight. I don't know if Megan needs another disc record, but I would name, if I was Megan, I would name my next album, Megan's Love.

I am, man. Yeah, I wouldn't do a whole disc, but I would name it Megan's Law. because what that's going to do, it's going to make all those bars. Rush to hear what's on this album. Same way Alex went to go hear, Andre 3000, to see if he was rapping. And a lot of other people did that on that food album. A lot of they're going to rush to hear with Megan's talking about on Megan's Love.

You could drop a disc record called Megan's Law on this album. You might not get another chance if you don't really get it right. Like, you got to get it right. And so this is the moment. Listen, these are the moments here. The universe opens up these moments, right? And then it's up to you to kind of jump through the window. This is a moment for Nikki.

You see, you mentioned one line. For Megan, excuse me. You mentioned one line and you got all of this. Get on her. Get, give it to, go. Take all. It will all look organic then. I think Megan needs hit records.

That's what I think Megan needs right now. That's the thing Nikki got, which is so, it's still so interesting to me as she chose. to respond to the to the to the freestyle because if I was Nikki I probably would have ignored it sure it'd have been better like you got hit right here's your chance to drop back to back

you said what here's your chance to drop back to back back to back oh she missed that already no no no she meant oh because everybody we're looking for the response to that wag nicky this nah oh you mean you mean it's Megan's chance to drop back it's Megan's chance forgive me I'm sorry that's

that's what that's what disappointed me about the whole Nikki situation. I think I spoke about this last week, but that's what disappointed me. It's like, I thought Nikki was going to give us something like that. I thought Nikki, the way she was acting on social media

toward this situation, I thought she was about to come with one of them, like one of them all-time disc records. That's how Meek was. Meek was on Twitter going crazy. He was talking crazy. He dropped that, that record, that record.

Horrible. I was like, damn. I don't even remember it. Drink just came. He cleaned him up. Was that after back to be? back? No, no, he dropped one record first

and then they dropped the other record not before. Was it, wait a minute, I don't remember. He dropped. But they dropped that record and I remember being so disappointed like, fuck. He took a long time to drop it. Back to back came back because he took too long.

And then. Back to back came back. Back to back never left when he did. No, no, no. I'm saying that Drake dropped another song before me could release it because he took too long. Back to back is a top five disc record of all time. I got it at five. You're pushing it. I got it at five. Why? You don't think so, glasses. Why? Not top five, top five. Top five. What's number one?

No, actually, number one for me is, uh, it's changed over the year, but it's cube, no vastly. Really? It's changed over there. And I tell you why it's changed over the year. And I'll tell you why it's changed over the year. I think I used to have Jay Z takeover at number one. The reason I put Cube, No Vaseline, Cube really took out a whole crew, man. Yeah, they did. Like they were strangers. One man Army took out a whole crew,

and Cube's back was really against the wall because he just had left the group. And to your point, Gene, you only get that one moment. Like, you only get that one opportunity to lose yourself, and he lost itself with that No Vaseline. And when you go listen to that shit now, That shit is filthy. That shit is filthy.

A lot of good gay slurs, you know. Yeah. Cosmetic stuff. Like, it's filthy. Yeah, it was special. No Vaseline. I'm going to no Vaseline at one. Ether at two.

Wow. Hit him up at three. Take over at four. And maybe back to back. Well, I like Dre day at 5, too. I got no Vaseline. The one that you don't really give credits to. You know, the Dre when he was disin, easy.

Luke and all them. You don't really trip it's such a big record. So I'm not mad at maybe back to back year six on a national fan. I got Dready. I got Ice Cube, No Vasen Lee. I got Jay-Z takeover. I have Tupac

hit him up. I actually have a I have it might be, it might be Dre Drey and then back to back.

Are y'all No, Ethan? I got Ethan out of the top five. That's crazy. I got Ethan out of the top five. The reason I got Ethan out of the top five, when I go back and listen to Ethan now, it's like, it just sounds elementary.

It's like, it just sounds like an elementary grade school disc, like, dick sucking lips and, you know, like a Rockefeller died and age. No, he did it. As a hard for Jay, D.C., as a hardcore Jay-Z fan,

I was devastated. Yeah. I mean, and in the moment, it was a great moment, but I don't think Ethan stood the test of time at all. All these other things you're talking about stood the test of time. Even now,

people still use that as an adjective. Yeah. Like, even when I hear the terms, I'm like, oh, you ether of them, it always kind of hurts me as a Jay-Z fan. Why are you all forgetting about Ruby Myers not in the top?

You'll tell it. Just please. It's a different thing. What? I'm trying to get women empowerment. environment, damn. It's not, I put Jayda Kisses son of a kiss. I put that one up

there because he destroyed being a lot. Jada had a better one than a son of a kiss. Jada had one. If I went to, yeah, my favorite five would probably be DJ Quick, this and eight, dollars and cents. That was big here.

Yeah, if it got personal, but just national, man, it's hard to. I like, I like anybody who can the reason I like Drady, the reason I like back to back, the reason I like hit him up, it's one thing when you listening to a disc record about yourself on a mixtape.

It's even one thing when you listen to a disc record about yourself on the radio. But when that shit is in the club, when the niggas is happening your shit, when motherfuckers drinking and smoking weed and celebrating, oh my God, when niggas has got melodies

for your shit, you know what I mean? Is that a world tall? Your girls talk. You know, please. Check them for a Y, R, if he, like, God, dang. Like, you know. The crazy is every time I think of that conversation, I always remember back to back. I'd be like, ooh, back to back.

It's going. I would not want to get that work. Glasses, he didn't curse one time. Yeah, that's really good. It was the most polite disc record ever. Yeah. He literally said at one point in the record, now I don't want to hear about this ever again.

Yeah. You know what I mean? That's old school Canadian mom. waving their finger at you. Now, I don't want to hear about this ever again. That was the Drake's record of all Drake record. Yes. It was hella polite.

It was concise and on point. That's devastating. I'm surprised Meek recover. And it took Drake to help Meek recover. Yes. And Drake out, the most impressive thing about it and salute to Meek, meek is doing a lot of great things. We're just having a conversation about hip hop right now.

You know, being the hip-hop historians, we are. The greatest thing about, you know, that record is he out hip-hop, the hip-hop guy in that moment. Like, the records that we love is when it's the underdogs coming out. If you notice all of those- He was a short underdog. Yes. All of those records we named with the exception of takeover and hit him up,

all of those guys were underdogs. Because remember, Dre was trying to bounce back after Rule Fless. Yeah. Hugh was bouncing back after NW. Drake was bouncing back after, you know, everybody put out the, he got ghost riders and everything, shit. Nas, Ethel was bouncing back after Jane said he was from top 10 and not mentioned it all. That's the ones we like. It's about that underdog bouncing back.

Here's Megan. We fast forward now we hear with Megan. This is Megan's chance. Like, you could actually slay the all-time great female hip hop artists of all time. like you may not, but you could put yourself in the ring. Like push your teeth, change his fortune battling Drake. Like at every level. On every level, like, remember?

So Drake came in kind of more arrogant in that battle as somebody who slayed meek and kind of took who was in the ring a little lightly. And it was devastated. You know what I mean, he got devastated really bad. Which is very interesting. Oh, go ahead. The thing with Megan, I think it's best if she doesn't reply because she kind of got the win already

because people are saying how bad Nicky's disc track was. So now if she put something out and is not that good, now she actually hurts us. I think right now she's walking away with the win by not even putting out a distract. But you don't, you

don't get, you got to still fight the fights. You know what I mean? You can't be scared of making a mistake. And what happened is this record to do well, right? This record, obviously, is the number one record in the country, right? But guess what happened? Your album must still come out and do 60,000.

Like, this is, like, Tupac was smart. He didn't, you know, he held it. He waited until he got something going, and then he put it out in the middle of everything going, and that pushed his record to another place. Like, you got to do the business that hip hop allows you when it allows you. And this is a chance. I agree with Alex. You know, I saw a bunch of, somebody was showing me because I'll never be on Twitter,

so whenever y'all be talking shit about me and I'd be trending, I don't be seeing it. But somebody showed me, the conversation they were having because they brought up this old donkey of the day I did on Nikki. And I gave Nikki donkey of the day for not responding to Remy in a reasonable amount of time.

I think I might even have gave meek donkey today too for not responding to Drake in a reasonable amount of time. And everybody was like, yeah, but you ain't give Megan donkey today. The reason I didn't give Megan donkey today because Megan bomb first. Megan dropped her bomb. And then it was up for Nikki to respond.

And Nikki responded, after three or four days of tweets, and the record wasn't it in on shit. So it's like, why? If I'm making it, I won, and I got a number one record in the country, I won. I'm going to keep on. I won.

But once again, that's why the Barbes are the best, because the Barbes think that's the best disc track that ever came out. What? The Barbes, they feel that Nicky's disc track is the best disc track ever put out. They are the best fans that anybody got. I don't want fans like that.

I like, I like, I respect anybody who got a cold like following, but I don't want fans that just, like I'm a delusional fan like that because I'm a cowboy fan. Every year, every year I tell you all the Cowboys going to the Super Bowl. You can't tell me the Cowboys are the greatest team of all time. I have no reason to believe that in the past one five years. That's delusion. I don't want delusional.

I don't want to be a delusional fan. I'm a delusional fan. I don't want those. Like, I think Megan should go. I think what happened is Megan to do well for a single. and she won't have a reason to check the album. You have to give people a reason to check the streams to get to the album. That's why you name it Biggins Law.

If you name it Biggest Law, people don't think you're talking about Nick. But, I mean, she had to change the whole album now, but right now she's not going to change the album, make a song called Megan's Love. Put it on the album, be like, I got this next Nikki Mina's disc record on the album. Y'all check it out when the album dropped. You want to run them streams up. You got to participate.

And you can't be scared to. lose. You know what I mean? Like, one thing I realized being in the culture a lot more, the artistic expression of it all, you got to be willing to be wrong and you got to be willing to go up there and everybody not understanding. But you got to put yourself into the situation. Like, she'll just end up with a good song and won't have a successful album. It's easy to have a great song and then sell 60,000 first week. But that's why she needs a great body of work. And I think she needs, you know, great records because Nikki, Nikki can still win the war. Like, this just was a battle.

But that's what I can. So, Nikki's already won. Like, Nikki Minaj is Nikki Minaj. That's the other thing we got to understand, too. Yeah, exactly. So it ain't like you're going to top Nikki Minaj. It's fucking, this is the greatest female hip-hop artists of all time. Shout out to Kim, right?

But, like, look at her, how long she's been going. Like, she is the one. So the one has your attention. The one. Why is she the greatest of all-gun? Why do you think she'd be like? Maybe it might be like 13. Why do you think she's the greatest female rap,

I mean, just everything she's done in the business. You know what I mean? She's like, like even to be this good right now, how you sell platinum in a month? She's still making shit. She's just like a, she's a different type of animal, you know what I mean? She's a different type

of beast. But Megan might be like 14 all the time. But guess what? You get a shot at the heavyweight title. And you can't make it just one round. You got to get in there and squabble. Make her dedicate some energy to you. Give some of that.

Glasses, you think Drake's not hip-hop, right? He's not at all, not even think. So is Nikki hip-hop? Yeah. But they make the same type of music? It's not just that. Drake represents no culture in his music, except everybody's culture, like Madonna.

So because Nikki is from Queens? And talks like she's from Queens. Okay, I get all right, okay, okay. I ask me she's from Queens. Hip hop is street. Okay, Taylor. hip hop is street urban culture personified through the arts street urban culture we've had this conversation right the reason you know what kind of cars guys in l.A. and Miami drive is because of hip hop

the reason you know slang out of new orleans is because of hip hop the reason you know pronunciation techniques in st. Louis like with words like there is because of hip hop the reason that kind of wheels people driving houston the reason you know is because of hip-hop. Drake has had 100 albums, 70 videos, I don't know,

endless material. You would not be able to tell us one thing about Toronto. That's not true, gee. That is, that is,

that is a, that is a farce. Tell me what kind of pants. Okay, well, tell me what kind of pants Toronto Street guys wear.

Pants? What's their pants? Yeah. Like New Orleans guys wear Jibos. L.A. guys wear dickies. New York guys.

I don't think New Orleans people wore Jobos in a long time. I'm saying they did. I'm telling you, tell me one thing about, tell me one thing. I only know about Toronto because of Drake. I actually think Drake's best moments musically. When he's Toronto. When he's Toronto.

Yes. And he's very rarely Toronto. No, he's always Toronto. I feel like since his second album on, he's been super Toronto. I think they created their own sound. You know, even, you know, they got people running around calling Toronto to six. like it's a Brooklyn. That's because he made that up.

But that's no. That's cool. I think that's great when pop artists make pop slogans. No, that's not a pop slogan, yeah. That's a pop slogan. That's a white people are calling Toronto the Six as well. I feel like everybody calls it the Six at this point. Because Drake made that up.

And I think that's fantastic, but he doesn't represent any street urban culture at all. I don't think it has to be a street though. Like I was watching, I saw Donald Glover this week. And we can assert all these clips too, Taylor. I saw Donald Glover this week, and Donald Glover was saying that, you know, it's because of Kanye that. As a fact, let's pay some bills to come back and talk about that.

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Church announcements. Lope, you got these church announcements? What's a church announcement? Self-view promoting. You know you got the album out? No, man, I'm chilling right now. No, sales. Sillings. This is my fourth season. I'm trying to figure out a visual way to present it. That's

really dope. I haven't figured it out, but I'm really proud of what's happening at no-sillings. The podcast on Black Effects, Iheart, y'all got to check that out. It's really getting good. And this year is really going to hit another level. This season right here is going to be special. It's a great podcast because glasses, people like to call Glasses are contrarian. I don't think glasses is a contrarian. I think Glasses looks at situations. observations, observed situations, and I just think he has a different POV. And the POV ain't really off. Ain't like you're saying that's crazy, glad.

You're not saying that's what I'm off. I swear to God, I'd be thinking, I was talking to Taylor. I'm like, I'd be thinking I was like, I had to think to myself. I was like, I told the girls on, what's the name of the girls? Horrible decisions. No, we talked about. We talked back. No, no, horrible decisions.

It was horrible decisions. I said, you should hold, you should hold sex until you get married. That's my advice. Do you know the girls cuss me out? Well, the podcast is called horrible decisions. You're admitting their horrible decisions. What was your reason, though? Why do you think that?

They were saying, what's the best thing to do to meet the right guy? Why should they? Oh, okay. If you say it like that. Well, the Bible said that, by the way. I mean, if the Bible's real, so many women going to help. I mean, and guys too, because we all had sex before marriage. But to me, man, it's just mathematics.

Like most of the thing, even when we talk about hip hop, everything, I'm just doing math, right? I'm like, okay, let's take the origin, let's break it out, let's pull it out, and let's figure out what makes it work together. So to me, it makes sense, but it's when people feel like... Because it's a bias, I guess. Why is it a bias? Because why do we have to wait until marriage for us? Bible says so.

No, no, no. Besides the Bible, I'm saying to find a good man, though. God said so. You don't, you don't have to wait to marriage to find a good man, right? But. Because it's, because I feel like you're not holding men accountable then. Like, why aren't they better men? Like, why do we have to hold ourselves accountable to not have sex restrained from sex? But y'all can do whatever you want.

Everybody should be restrained from sex. The Bible says so. No, you're right. But I'm just. It's saying when it comes to women, why? Mine is, but it's more, even, even biblically, even the Bible is mathematics. It makes sense. It's like men's job, you know, they're genetically wired to go around and procreate, right?

Sophistication is how we achieve, you know, any true level of, right? What is it called? Monogamy, right? So you decide if men could have sex. You decide. So it does fall on the greater species to kind of set the standard, right? Like if vagina is cheap, you know, men will buy cheap. I think I's do with the mindset.

I've, I'm not up to myself. I know someone. Wow, tell you. It's not you, Taylor. Okay, fine. I'm not going to be a real body. I've had sex with guys and I've been in. relationships with them.

But that's their mindset, though. And I feel has sex with guys where they just wanted to hit. So I think it depends on the mindset. But you don't really know if you like nobody until you hit. That's the problem. Like, you don't really know. Like you could like some, I'm telling you, Taylor, something. As Charlemagne in his prime day, I know it's been a long time.

But as anybody who's in their prime day, right? Like, you would think you really like somebody until you hit. But that's right. And then something happens. That's not necessarily. That's not true. There's so many girls I put up with, are you saying like if the sex is good or bad?

No, it's not that. Something happens. It's like magic. You know, Douglas, you got what you wanted. Like if it's not a woman that you're looking to wife up and be with, once you accomplish that goal of sleeping with her, it's like on to the next. I don't know because I've met girls that I really thought I liked

until I hit it wasn't like a bad experience. It doesn't matter. Life after the nut. You just were able to release and now you're good. Maybe the vagina was average. That's not right because I won't even thinking I really liked them. The vagina might have been average. What do you say?

It wasn't. Wait. Teller, you said something earlier that made me think, why doesn't, why you said you slept with guy that just wanted to hit? Why couldn't you have that mindset? I have. Oh, okay, okay. I'm not saying, I'm not saying girls can't have that.

But I'm just, why are we, I'm, gosh, why did you not like her anymore? Like, everything about her you just didn't like? I can't, I can't logically produce it. I'm telling you, this is where the magic has to happen. Is there a smell? No. She was actually an awesome girl. You said nothing to do with the sex.

Alex, are you married, Alex? No, I'm engaged, though. To a white woman. Okay. You remember meeting a girl? No, to a Spanish woman. To a Spanish woman. And I'm a Spanish man.

Do you remember meeting some girls? you thought you liked them. You're not Clemens. You're Spanish men? Now you're not black men now? I'm both. I'm both. But Charlotte,

Charlie, probably out of the block. That's crazy. Yo. You know what you check on these things? In his Black History Month. Right. I don't know.

Change your pass to WTF, too, then. You are black, man. I'm Afro-Latino. So my mother was born in Puerto Rico, my dad was born in Atlanta. I have Afro-Latino. All right, let's proceed. Yeah, have you ever met a girl that you thought you liked and then you hit it? And it wasn't bad.

It was just like nothing, like it just, the magic didn't happen. Yeah, that happened. That happened a lot all the time. It's not just men that feel like that. Girls have the same. So, Taylor, so that's what I'm saying to you. But you can marry someone and could be the same thing.

So what does it matter? I'm not saying that. It depends on how much value you put on, you know, the factory itself. I don't think it's meant to be really abused like that. No, like the baby making factory that's inside your avenue. I agree.

I feel like that about the dick, too, though. You know what I'm saying? I don't know because I think the dick was made to be abused, right? At that point, it literally can, every day a woman gets pregnant, a man can go out and make babies, which again, sophistication is what allows you to decide is not worthy, right?

You don't want to just father any, a child with every woman, right? That's the sophistication, but the genetic programming is a lot different than that. So even the starting point is working with something different, which is different, but back to the point, I digress, because I don't want to get cussed out this week about this shit. But I'm saying everything I say,

best believe I read and thought about it. Like, glasses is never just, I'm not a contrarian. I'm not saying if I'm talking about Drake not being hip hop, it's because I understand hip hop at the origin. Now, we could talk about evolving, like you said, what Donald Glover was saying about Kanye, because we talked about that too.

Well, I said, like, man, I realized that is when it switched with Kanye, it became very almost not street at all. And I'm glad because I think that street is only one aspect of a black experience. And I don't want to even say that being, you know, being street is just regulated to black. But I think that we for so long in hip-hop, we had so many people rapping from that perspective. It was very refreshing when Kanye came with lay registration.

I mean, Kanye, period, from the time he came out with college job, about the reason I say lay registration, because remember, the industry pitted street against what Nanya was doing. It was 50. Remember that whole thing, 50 versus Kanye? And who would sell the most? The industry has to look back since. But this is the problem

If you understand why hip hop was important You would understand why that was probably the beginning of the end It's the same thing they did to rock and roll It's like it's how you cut off Like black life didn't have a problem Expressing itself without hip hop Like you don't have to just be black and do hip hop Remember black people started rock and roll

Yeah, jazz It's mostly country Right But the problem is When you actually put people who are represented in some level Into the same space where there was no representation People from the street had no representation until hip hop. Our story wasn't told until hip hop.

And it became still to this day the only way to tell our story. As much as gang banging, right, let's say the culture that's gang banging, minus all the violence, just the camaraderie, the culture of it all. There's less than 10 movies. Gang banging is a bigger influence and more popular than the mafia, but there's probably 70 to 100 mafia movies. there's still less than 10 movies. That's easy though. That's because, you know, those mafia movies,

a lot of them were critically acclaimed, a lot of them made a lot of money. I think what we're about to see now, you know, is the, I guess you would call it the Renaissance of the Black Street story. Because not only what 50 Thin is doing, man, we still ain't seen those Donald Goin's books, you know what I'm saying,

turned into films and TV shows. We're going to see that. You know, you got guys like my man, Jaquavius Coleman and the street novels he's making. You got people like my man, S.A. Cosby, you know, in the tales that they're telling. You're about to say a lot of Black Street stories in a minute. And that's what I was saying. You know, you know how I am about Kanye.

Like, you know how I feel about Kanye. We've had all kind of great conversations. But the more I think about it, I just, I'm really starting to feel he was bad for hip- No, man. Conno. I agree with what Donald Glover said. When Donald Glover said, all of these rappers now sound like Kanye, but. Go rapper.

To me, Kanye. To me, I know that's controversial. But I feel like we would not have any of the rappers we have now without. I take it a step further. I think he met the generation that came before because I've been said this a long time ago. Without Kanye, there's no drink. There's no Kendrick. There's no cold.

There's no chance to rap. There's no Waleigh. There's no Cuddy. There's no Big Sean. He's literally responsible with that old wave of hip-hop. that came out. And as much as I enjoy, obviously mine is not out of that conversation,

but as much as I enjoy it, I think what happens is now this allows white business men to start putting people that look closer to them and to a pop mainstream to be able to self. Like, same thing happened to jazz and rock and roll. Like, if you don't actually have to be culture

to have a hip-hop conversation or to represent it. All those people will coach you, though. Like, no, they're not. Easily. Jay Cole came out telling us his story from Fayetteville. came out telling us he's I don't even know Kendrick and culture glasses

I keep telling you take that out of it I think most of them are not culture I think he's the closest one he got that gogo stuff going but what happens John not culture

probably come on culture yes he represents the culture extremely well I didn't say he wasn't a skilled

and talented record writer or an MC he's dripping in flavor Gee, you turned into the whitest He's dripping in flavor. He's dripping in flavor. Like these dudes are Taco Bell to Mexican food. They're green burrito.

Nah, that's crazy. But you don't think it's a good thing for the culture? Because you don't have culture. Once you gentrify it, you don't have, that's like saying the gentrification is Brooklyn is great for Brooklyn. No, but I'm saying isn't it a positive thing for the culture? because if you only had just street rap, then you're going to keep like pushing that message

and that's going to influence another generation of, oh, all we can do is just be gangstead. And everybody be dead. And the street rap is some of the wacky shit that we've seen over the years, G. Yeah, but that's also not a message. Like, they're reflecting the traumas going on in their community. They didn't inspire a next generation.

No, you got to stop. Even though they're talking about their own story, they're still influencing a generation. How? Which middle class community has ever been influenced? What do you mean? I'm talking about the... I'm talking that influencing the culture.

I want to say one other thing. I want to throw something else in the mix. Sure. Kanye wasn't the only person who influenced that generation. There's a group that influenced that generation that nobody ever talks about. And that's Little Brother. Sure. That's fair.

And I think Little Brother is great. Kanye and Little Brother influenced that old. generation. All of those guys we just named always cite Kanye and Little Brother as their influence. Man, and I think those guys are fantastic. But what I'm saying is, I think if you created a culture or

artistic expression that helps people who weren't represented in the conversation in mainstream America have a voice and then you take the voice back and give it back to Eddie Winslow, it does no good. I don't believe that. I think you're only looking at it. All of them niggas is Eddie Winslow.

Every last one of them, is Eddie Winslow. Every one of the niggins is Willis from Good Town. But the hood had Edie Younglow. The Hood had Willisyses from Good Times? No, it's different. It's a different version of it. Kendrick, to me, is those guys.

He was the good kid in a mad city. That's not true. He's a bad kid. Y'all, don't mistake the title. Listen to the words of the shit. He was talking about being around and involved in all of the stuff. That's just a title. He was a bad kid in the bad.

But you got to be a criminal in order for it to be considered hip- Not a criminal. not a criminal, but crime, where crime inspired the culture. Crime-written, disly populated communities inspire the culture. It's the way we talk. It's the reason why we dress. But again, I don't like, all of this stuff is things that I've thought about, like going back to the spades and the Bronx and the Bronxdale projects. And then I just come forward and I see where it dies.

But it is disingenuous to say hip-hop is inspiring the culture when a cult, when actually the life is inspiring hip hop. Like nobody nobody's making this stuff up right as like this is happening like everything happening in drill is happening in Chicago and instead of us taking that alarm that drill is done those little dudes is ringing for us. Drill is done

already. But I'm saying instead of us taking the alarms that these guys are raising in their community and really trying to do something to figure it out, we're punishing them because they're saying this is happening. No, they're punishing themselves. The lifespan of drill music is shorter than the lifespan of a drill rapper.

These guys aren't even getting the chance to grow and even get an opportunity to really prosper because they're killing each other. Like, they're literally using the music just to glorify the beef thing I got going on on the street. Sure. Hence why all the black people we should be trying to figure out their problem instead of sitting back condemning it. That's what hip hop did. It gave a voice to people who didn't have one.

I don't think people like Kanye never didn't have a voice. People have their stories about people who got in car. accidents with insurances. There's movies about guys who had jobs and got accused of stealing because they worked at the gap as a black person. These were not ill-represented stories in America. Like being black, you know, in America has been represented in film for some decent years. It's just the life that we come. I think if we kept hip-hop skirkly-skreet, there would be age limits on.

hip-hop. Killer Mike wouldn't have won a Grammy this weekend. Yes, he would have. No, he wouldn't up. Because when you're 48 years old, you're not rapping about being in the street. You shouldn't be. If you're still, if you're 40-year-to-rap about being in the street and killing people, something is wrong. Somebody's either lying or something wrong. It's not about, but don't,

but don't, it's like an over-sensation. It's not about rapping about being in the streets. The streets structure you. It frame you a certain way. It's not about, like, Jay-Z still carries himself like a street guy to this day. Like, there's certain things he would never do. Like, it formats, it forms us in a certain way that's really brilliant. Like the way we talk to other people.

Like, right? We don't say stuff to, like in Taylor's America, people could say what they want to say, and it don't matter. Like, you could talk crazy to anybody. In our America, you got to watch what you say to people because it could come with, you know, repercussions. I think, I think that's changed so much, like, anybody can blow your head off nowadays. No, I watch white people. people cuss each other out at McDonald's all the time. A white lady be getting some big match.

You'd be like, y'all playing with my damn fool. They'd be going off and people talk to each other crazy. Do that shit in Florida. I guarantee it's going to be a shootout, especially with that Big Mac combo being $18 now. I mean, that should be worth killing them. That should be worth killing them. But the point I'm saying is. Yes.

This is the kind of stuff we do on those sins. We really get into the foundation of things and build out. We get into, that's what I like to do. I like to get into the foundation. This year I plan to talk to a lot of different people, but I'm not talking to them. Like, if it's a rapper, we're not going to talk about rap. I need to see what life is like for you outside of these things. And that's what I hope to achieve with.

I like the way hip hop is right now, man. I saluted my main killer Mike. I hate it. I saw something other day. I saw this Nila posted this. Let me read this to y'all real quick. You know, glasses. We had, so we had Russ on Flagrant.

And Russ was saying how we have to have the discussion, how white people are obsessed with black trauma, and also how rappers need to take accountability for the impact that they have on the culture and how, like, in a negative way. But it does, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't make sense, because we do know rappers are influential. But how, how are they, how is it reflective, how is the mirror to be blamed for how you look?

So let's say Juice World, for example. Juice World said, hey, I saw a future taking drugs, and that made me want to do drugs. And now he's gone today. Do we blame the Eagles? Or do we blame shot eight? Shot day. I mean, they're not putting out negative messages.

I mean, of course they have the same message. Rick James, there's a million people with songs about drugs. Gee, you want hip hop to be one way. No, no, no. Yes, you do. You want hip hop to be one way. No, no, I love the exception to the rules. I love De La Soe.

I love Tribe called Quest. But what I don't want is to think people like that's there now are speaking for the ghetto people that had no voice in the first place. And I do want the, they're not. And I do want the ghetto people to keep. They're not. Drake doesn't speak for the ghetto. Jay Cole don't speak for the ghetto.

Jay Cole speaks for the rural areas of Fayetteville, North Carolina. And I think that's amazing. dirt roads, the single wide trailer. Totally agree. But I still want to have our voices being magnified in this space. I don't want the same thing to happen to rock and roll. It's going to happen to hip-hop. I don't want the same thing to happen to jazz,

happen to hip-hop where white dollars stop financing. But gee, everything you're saying, the only reason that don't make no sense because the 90s is what started that. Snoop Dogg selling 800,000 copies in a week with all the street shit, then turning around and selling another $800,000. They're the ones that turned hip-hop to rock and roll.

There's no bigger rock and roll artists in hip-hop than Snoop Dog. Snoop advertise is any and everything. And he is street as they come, Gee. I agree, but that gives the ghetto a chance that it wouldn't have on any other level. Like, dog, like the ghetto won't have a chance. Like right now there won't be future black rock and roll stars at any high. level. Because as soon as you begin to gentrify a genre and it gets lighter, lighter, lighter, lighter, lighter,

till it gets white in America. That's every last, the history of every last thing that's ever been gentrified. Brother, no, it is not hip-hop's fault that the culture. The culture is a reflection. They're talking about being on drugs because they're on drugs culturally in these places. This is the thing that they do culturally. That's not a good thing, though. Why is that not considered street urban culture? What is?

Being a drug use. It is. It is in Houston. No, everywhere. We grew up on the dealers. Now these kids are growing up on the users, but you can't have one without the other. Sure, sure.

They're definitely part of the hood. You can't even be any of these things you're talking about. I think future is a part of the culture. Yes, that's super. I'm just telling him, I'm telling him, future is a mirror.

To blame the mirror for how you look, it's crazy. Yeah, but Nikki Minaj said she was speaking in the future and Future said he doesn't even use the damn man, 90% of the drugs he talked about using. So now he's putting a fake message into the culture

that actually hurts the culture. No, no, it's not true. He represents the culture of Atlanta. The thing about hip-hop, it speaks for us, not just me. See, that's where people was turning hip hop now into just a me conversation. Hip hop before was the qualification to speak for us. So Future is one of those few people that speaks for the street culture in Atlanta that

we're talking about. Now, I can see if he didn't start that, if he's the first person that talked about this and then they made it a trend. No, Atlanta was already doing this, and he's informing you on what's going on. So, hold on, outcast and goody mob don't represent the streets.

Yes, they did. That's my, but they didn't rap about dope and all of that great. They just wrapped about. You don't have to rap. I didn't say you have to rap about dope. Ice Cube didn't rap about dope. You don't have to rap about dope, but it's a way, it's a slang you use.

It's the way you dress. It's representing us. It's the culture of us. All those guys that made, all those guys that made, that you said suck except for Kendrick. They absolutely did that. Rhapsody. I don't know if they all represent the culture of us. I don't, I would genuinely disagree.

You don't think Rhapsody is hip-hop? Of course I think Rhapsody is hip-hop, but I don't think Big Shahn represents the culture of Detroit. Yes. No. I know a lot of Detroit people. And you don't think he represents the culture? No. I think Big Sean is a talented.

I think Big Sean is a talented MC beyond with skills comparable to probably some of the best to ever do this. He is an underrated record. He's a fantastic act. Again, I'm not saying he's not even hip-hop. What I'm saying is I like the hip-hop drenched in flavor. If I'm going to eat Mexican food, I want it. season like Mexican food. I don't want to eat Taco Bell. Sean's seasoning is all Detroit.

Sean is Big D. Pause. I ain't talking about no. Okay. I'm just saying he's big Detroit energy, man. Big D energy. Big big energy. Big Sean. I think I'm not mad at that. I'm just saying I like when hip hop is drenched in culture. I think that was the point of it. And that's the goal. The goal it would be achieved is to keep it there. Not to a lot. allow it to be gentrified into a space to where people get older and they feel good about it versus how we all saw it as a representation of our attitudes at that time. I want to us. I think it's really important to keep it drenched in flavor.

Hip hop is that one lane that gave the ghetto a chance. You know what I mean? To be hurt. And if you start putting suburban kids in that line, there are many more suburban kids than there is ghetto kids. That's good. It's way more. It's not good. I want these ghetto kids to grow from the ghetto and get to the.

suburbs. I want to see those ghettos get gentrified and those black kids still get to live there. That's not going to happen. They're going to kick them out. It always happens every time. It's not going to happen because they're going to get kicked out. Are they going to die a drug over those glasses? Glasses want you all to stay rapping like Chicago. They're going to get out of the community and move somewhere else and be displaced. What's what's happening in Chicago right now? Let me ask you a question. This is a good point. If I get displaced from an area and I rap about that displacement, I'm not a little kid. I'm just a kid from. from the ghetto. I rap about the displacement. I wrap about what my hood's going through. I'm not hip hop.

Of course you are. That's fire. Yes. I'm waiting on that guy. Yes. But you're going to get displaced to another poor place. And you're going to talk about what it's like being in foreign places, not generations of your family being here. I would love to hear that perspective. I think that's where a lot of times we're at today. But what I'm saying is you're not, you can't fix, you don't fix a flu by ignoring the symptoms. You don't fix a flu by ignoring the symptoms. You don't fix flew by covering your mouth. You don't fix a flu by any. You don't fix things by ignoring them

and feeling like, let's cover them up. Okay, long as it get gentrified and they kick all these poor people out and push them out somewhere else to where they're displaced in the places that's unfamiliar, you don't fix a problem. All you do is create a worst problem for more people. I agree with that, but I also think we can't ignore the other spectrums of the hood.

Like the hood, the ghetto, the spectrum. That's why we have to do a much better job of creating opportunities there. That's why it's the hood in the first place because it lacks opportunity. It's not the hood because people are just crazy. It's the hood because there's not many ways to get to literally make a livable wage in the range. That's what make it the hood. If it had opportunities, if it was factories and warehouses around the corner and down the street, you feel me?

It wouldn't be the hood. But every person is not going to rap about that criminal aspect of the hood. Some people are going to rap about just living there and trying to get out. Some of these kids might really want to go to college. Some of these kids might be the hoopas, the ballplay. I'm all in. I think Tribe Carl Quest I can keep naming Dayla So

Exhibit you know I mean I think that's great but what's happening is you having less representation of the ghetto of the streets at this point and it's getting blander It's going to get blander The potato salad is going to get raisins It's just the inevitable

You don't think La Russell is ghetto No What You don't even use slang La Russell? No Glasses you gotta stop He's sober lay hole

What are we talking about? Of course he's not. You ever met a guy from Vallejo? Yes. La Russell and E40. You met a guy from Vallejo. Yes, La Russell and E40. I'm talking about somebody that's not been a successful rapper for 30 years.

Not that guy. Even though because he's hell of still Vallejo. But I'm saying, talk to Be Legit. Just sit on a phone and let Be legit talk to you. Talk to guys there. Like, talk to them. You will hear that there's this cultural thing happening. And that's what I loved about my hip hop.

No dish to all of the guys that are gentrifying it and blending it and putting raisins in a potato salad. I'm not mad at that. But there should still be potato salad on the table, right? That literally has a little seasoned sauce. Yo, LaRasco Super Bowl glasses. Look, I know people are showing us his hood. He does shows in his yard. Doesn't live in the hood.

I don't know. What is it? I don't know how you look like the hood. Like, your house in Beverly Hills is not the hood. He's not in Beverly Hills. He literally lives in his mom's house in Vallejo. Like, they put the residency in the backyard. Like, him and his mom out there, camera, and the stage. Yes, I think that's an amazing black family business, like the Jackson Five.

But I'm saying there's still a ghetto. Jackson Five was in the hood. I'm not, listen, that's the difference. It's in the hood and they made it out. And I'm not mad at that story, but I'm saying, I want to make sure we keep hip hop with authentic Mexican food, not just Taco Bell on the table. It's too much Taco Bell on the table. Glassens want Mexican OT to be the biggest rapper in the game.

He's not going to be happy. I love Mexican OT. Oh, Mexican O'Tsian. But again, I don't want to sound like I don't like La Russell. I think La Russell has some really ridiculous street takes. One day I'm going to talk to him about it because it's insulting and I'll be offended when I listen to it. He has a lot of ignorant street takes. He's too black to have that many ignorant street blacks.

things. You black. You call us and then we can give you some truth. What is the ignorance street take that he don't want people in his street? No. Like he said something even in the rap. He was like, if it's the OG, why he always hanging with the little niggies. Like that is just the furthest thing from the true with OGs. Like that's just not how it is. That's like, and the problem is people were listening to him and really think that's how it is. It's much more nuanced and deeper than that. And you have to put respect on the culture itself if you don't know it. And I don't think he knows it. And I think that's what we're hearing with a lot of rappers.

We're hearing a lot of people. Like even Alex is saying like, Brody's saying he's like, you want to blame hip hop for a culture that's already happening here. And they're broadcasting it. Like, they're not, rappers are not responsible for anything. Like, run DMC didn't start the track suit. Run DMC let us know that the drug dealers in New York were in track suit. That's a fact.

They didn't start the track suit. They didn't start the lingo. They start talking like the guys in the street. Snoop and Dre are not the first guys to have a lowrider. They're not the first guys to own a gun and live their life in a way. They reflected the culture of people. This is how they're living. Now, as black people doing well, everybody up in here and everybody who listens to this

podcast, we can do things to help these communities. But the last thing we should be doing is talking shit about them saying this is what's wrong or this is what's happening. Or them being proud of surviving it and somehow embracing it and making it a part of surviving. that shit is like the most anti-black thing you can do. I think that it's okay to call out you know, where we can

definitely be better, especially when we've got generations and generations of examples that show us none of this stuff is productive. We know these. But I don't know it's... At that point, we know...

Then at that point, we could never really blame slavery. We can never really say nothing about systemic oppression or racism. We could just act like it's all self. We could just obtain better. like Kanye's right. Slavery is a choice. We could have just died all together

or we could have just did whatever. Or you can actually acknowledge the fact, right, that literally people are going through a lot of shit trying to figure out how to deal with this. And we could act like that really exists. We could act like that this system ain't fair, that they literally do deny black people opportunity and chances and understand why people respond the way they respond.

We know that, though. I don't never judge anybody for what they do in survival mode ever. So let's stay right there And then let's focus on fixing that Versus saying well I did it you can do it too Because that's not really a solution No that isn't fixing that because I'm not going to tell you Hey man keep hustling to get out of that situation

Because you know why? Because I know where that hustling ultimately leads That hustling ultimately leads to you being in jail or dead So I can't let you stay on that fast No but we have to tell you that But we have to also understand why you are hustling Like we do That is my job.

And I do, I think I do a fantastic job. I think Dre and them did a fantastic job. They all told you, hey, Ice Q did a fantastic job. I think they tell you, hey, this could happen at the end of this. Absolutely. Most likely this can happen. But we do all understand why it's happening. We do, we will refuse to not acknowledge the fact that you are in a really bad situation.

And we not, I'm not going to tell you to look at a job. I totally understand that you. That's why I've been having this conversation for the past few weeks in regards to what's happening at the boy. right? Because what I see is a lot of people having conversations that let me know they're so disconnected from the everyday working class person. They're so disconnected from foreign disenfranchised people because I'm listening to these, they're really political talking points, right? Like, niggas in the hood ain't screaming, close the border. Just because they want the border closed, they're not even saying that at all. They're saying, we don't have no resources,

but y'all are giving all those resources to them. Where are that? I saw people having a conversation and they were saying how black people are saying, oh, they're coming over here and taking resources from us. That is not the conversation. Ain't nobody saying they're taken from us.

Nobody won't do this. We never had, but we see these people getting the basic necessities, which is food shelter. The basic necessity is the life of food clothing and shelter. Those are the three things you need to have a healthy, sustainable community. These people that we're talking about,

these black people in Chicago, these black people in Boston, these black people in Maine that are having these conversations about the migrants. All they're simply saying is how come y'all can find so much money for them but don't have any resource for us?

And they don't even just have to be the migrants. They feel like that when they see all that money going to Ukraine. They feel like that when they see all that money going to Israel. They feel like that when they see money going to Gaza. I saw this thing the other day in New York when they was talking about reparations

for the Holocaust. Black people was in the comments about wait a minute. Gee, is that not common sense, though? Yeah, but again, it's easy. But this is what I was saying to the brother. This is what I'm saying to him. I'm like, some of this stuff be obvious.

Like, right? Hip hop is not to blame because it's reflecting what's happening. It's not starting. It's reflecting. And then other people are like, damn, that's what y'all doing. So instead of us, right, especially us, like at this level where we're all doing okay for ourselves and we could do things, instead of us coming up with solutions to fix the problem, we like, why are you telling people this is happening?

You're glorifying it versus saying, damn, like when I heard the Chicago dudes, I just thought that was crazy. Same thing when I hear all these stories where I hear people in those comments. You see them on the comments. Like, wait a minute, y'all got 100. Y'all send 700 million to Ukraine.

It's common since. 900 million to Israel. Look, right, hey. We're right here in your backyard, starving, homeless, don't have no food. How can you be upset? at them. Everything you're saying right now, what you're saying about hip hop is the migrant situation is literally the perfect example because y'all not even seeing these people over here

that are going through it. And you put things on them, right? Like you say, oh, now you're pushing MAGA messaging. You know what I mean? Now you, now you're talking like the conservatives and reproducts. That shit don't got nothing to do with political party. That shit got to do with the halves and the have not. And that's, and that's, hip hop was for the half. Knots. And that's all I fight to keep it for is to have, keep a space for the half-knots. Look, y'all can have potato salad with raisins on the table. Don't get rid of the greens.

Don't get rid of the greens. Every day, they're taking the greens off the table. They got the greens off the table. Now it's just, now it's cold slough. Where's the damn, where's the greens? Why is it cold slaw here? I'm not saying cold slaw is not a tasty dish when it's cooked correctly. You know what I mean?

It's a barbecue. Put some of that goddainette. You put some barbecue on that motherfucker. You know what? You know what? Some pulled barbecue chicken. You got to do some stuff. I'm just saying hip hop at this point, if I leave it to everybody else, they were turning hip hop into a white barbecue.

So you're saying build the wall. That's what you're saying. You're saying build the wall. Close the border. Keep out suburban kids from hip hop is what you're saying. No, I'm saying there's a room. Pop music has. a wide open, right?

Which Drake is a pop artist. You can make him a pop artist. The problem is when you allow him to win in the space as hip hop, that takes away budget from ghetto kids. Because ghetto kids will not be allowed to do these things. We would have requirements for them to escape at that level.

We wouldn't even support a ghetto kid doing that. Drake has supported a lot of ghetto kids. I think Drake is fantastic as a human being. He is the modern day of time. Drake is given so much ghetto rapist stimulus packages, the pop boy JBs, little babies,

all the old guys. I think he is, in true Jewish fashion, in true Jewish fashion, he has done really great things by the black community in America. I'm not denying. You don't have that conversation

enough in hip-hop either. Sure, we don't never tell you about Jewish relationship and black relationship is the reason he pop is hip-hop. You don't talk about that enough. I'm saying, but it's Macea-millionaire, so I'm not taking that away. But what I'm saying is,

just leave space on a picnic table for greens. I'm saying if you keep moving it to cold slough and potato salads with raisins and all the stuff, hot dogs, there's no hot links on the table. It's just hot dogs. I'm not mad at hot dogs at a barbecue, but when I come to it, I could have made hot dogs at home. I want, where's the ribs? I want the flavor. And that's what makes hip-hop great.

It gave an expression point for ghetto kids to express themselves. The culture that they created. Again, it's always never just been ghetto kids. De La Soe, but they still talked. The talk. We all talked the same. We all represented. De La Soe represented like everybody else represented.

All these guys I name, they do too, G. To me anyway. It gets, they get, it's really cold slur at a certain place. It ain't really greens, man. It ain't greens. It's like Kraft macaroni. It ain't home bake. It ain't brown at the top.

It's like crap. You just don't think you like a lot of the new recipe. You don't like a lot of the new recipe. No, I do like them. No, I disagree. I enjoy. Listen, I think Jay Cole is one of the greatest rappers up. Jay Cole is Tim Duncan.

That's right. He is that good. He's fantastic. A big fundamental. And I think having them there is important. Having Cole at the table is important. But I'm just saying now it's not enough greens. Where is the soul food at the table?

Right now, if I ask you the top five artists, where's greens? You couldn't name nobody that got that much season. Who is the modern day version of who got that seasoning? Where is the seasoning at? I think there's a lot of fantastic artists out right now, and I think that a lot of them are. They're fantastic. I think it's a mixture of veterans and a mixture of youngans right now.

I got LaRust. Totally agree. I got Killer Mike still. I got Kodak Black. I got 21 Codac black is greens Kodak black is green 21 Savage is greens 21

Even Coder He's like What's that dish they say over there The breaded casseroe That whole thing Beef Wellington That's what I'm saying Like my man beef well

It would season meat So I think they are But I think It still needs to be more of those Than cold slow That's what I think we got a lot of those a lot it's very few man it's actually it actually ain't nobody 20 no more at this point

think about it i don't know think about the last guy that came out of Atlanta tell you they're getting some money over there now it's getting gentrified last time using a username you was an A property is expensive I'm gonna be in Atlanta next week I have to think about it listen I want to salute Alice Randall and by the way for more conversations like this make sure you check our glasses below podcast and no ceilers podcast on the black effect I heart radio podcast network. And I want to salute to Alice Randall. Alice Randall

she has a book coming out called My Black Country. It is the next release off my book in print, Black Privilege Publishing. It is a journey through country music's black past, present and future. It is available April 9th. Okay? April

9th it will be released, but it's available for pre-order right now. Nice. Slued to Kill a Mike. Send me the link to that. I can buy that book. Oh, man. It's fantastic. Like, she really breaks down the history of The Killer Mike

who did the impossible I know this is not the moment for that and we're trying to get up No it is Shout out to my boy Let's celebrate Mike for a minute Let's stay on Mike for a minute

Shout out the killer Mike That's impossible Why he says it's impossible Because he flew I ain't never seen a human fly before Talk to me Like How did he sweep the rap category

Because he put out the best rap music And it You know that on You know that don't never work. Listen, I'm not even joking, right? You miss it to your credit. You been saying it. You know why?

Because I understand the Grammys now. I understand what kind of music gets nominated for a Grammy. First time I ever heard Nipsey Hustle Victory Lab, God bless the dead. I said Nipsey, I said this album is going to get nominated for a Grammy. When I heard Rhapsody Layla's Wisdom, this was all the same year. That's a good album. that this album is going to get nominated for a Grammy. It's a certain type of hip hop,

a certain type of sound that the Grammys usually nominate. And it's a certain type of sound that usually wins. It's something to the left of sit of everything we're talking about right now. It ain't necessarily street shit. It ain't necessarily, you know, a suburban shit. It's just like a, it's just musically. Hip-hop produces these offerings every now and then that I know this isn't going to get nominated for a Grammy.

And the other reason I knew Mike was going not just get nominated and win. I've never seen a human being personally. Want that so bad. We were in the studio. That's good. It is so amazing. We was in the studio.

It was me. It was my wife. It was Mike. It was his wife, Salute de Che. Lord Duval came. It was Mike's engineers and his people. and he let us hear the album for the first time. And I was like, actually,

that was the second time I heard it, because he had sent it to me before. First time I heard it, I was like, oh, Mike getting nominated for a Grammy. When I heard it in the studio, I said Mike going to win a Grammy because that's all he was saying. He was like, I want to win rap album

of the year at the Grammys. And the other reason we need to celebrate that album so much is independent, gee. That's what I'm saying. Mike can't sign to nobody. He swept the rap. If he won one, that's incredible. As that type of art.

Because, you know, the rap, shout out to the Grammys. Grammys take a lot of slack. I don't agree with 90% of the slander. Because I think in every other category, they will, like, nominate some other, like, who is this person? And you will go discover somebody great

because the Grammy is. So shout out to the Grammys. Like, I know y'all take a lot of slander from the community, from the urban space, but trust me, the most, Flavored guy breathing, I get it. Because I discovered some amazing stuff when the Grammy winners get presented. I go, listen, I bet, oh, this is really good.

But for Mike to get that dog, and if he won one, he's not, you know, it's never been a popularity contest except in the rap category. Except in the rap category. The rap category has always almost been a popularity contest. Even the Nas Award that he won a couple years back was more like they owed that to him. Shout out to the Kings of these because all of that stuff was fired. But you could tell was like, finally Nas has a Grammy. But I also knew that was a Grammy nominated worthy album, though, when I heard it. And that was the move.

So shout out to my little bro hit boy, right? So, oh, and shout out to hit boy son in a decade for putting his daddy on. That's fine. Hell yeah. The rap category is a popularity contest sometimes. There is a lot of popularity that goes into it. So for that category to finally get treated by just what you are. hearing is great.

And for Mike to sweep it, I just bought one of them $100 brooms on his website. I'll send me one. Oh, that's real? He's like, you didn't have to buy that. Yeah, he said, I would have sent you one. I said, no, I'm going to pay for mine. I didn't know. Buy my shit for me, man. I love that dude, man. Let me tell you something. Killing Mike,

whenever I say Killing Mike in my top five favorite rappers of all time, there's two people that I mention when I say top five. Whenever I say ghost face and killer Mike, they'd be like, ghost face. Killer Mike. And I remember Mike saying to me, Mike said, man, this album I'm putting out is for people like you

who've been putting me in your top five for years and now you're going to have something to really back that shit up. It's coming. It's coming, man. It's coming. I'm so proud to kill. It's here. Yaku. I'm a shout out to Will. Yep, shout out to... I mean, but it's just, now it's like,

it's old, like, hip hop has... Like, it's been so... Man, this is one for the streets, man. This is special, man. My man, Mike is just... I'm really happy, man. I haven't really, yeah, like the last time I've been as happy, well, I was really happy when Nip got nominated, but I was excited when Kendry, because that's my friend, you know what I mean? I was happy for Cardi.

I was Mike to win was for Cardi B. Yeah, Cardi won best rap album one year. Oh, for sure. It was the same year, Nipsey. It was Nipsey was nominated, Pushing was nominated, and she won RAPE out of the year. Personally, I think Nifty should have won. That's a big album, too, though.

Huh? That's a big album that was really constructed with. Very. But watching Dot win, Dot was like, watching him, you know, eating Louisiana chicken

in the backhouse to winning the Grammy is a different level of personal. But Mike is like, that's three? Is Kilmike? Okay?

Why did he leave in handcuffs? Um, because that's what gangsters do. That's a conspiracy. I don't get what gangsters do. They did not want to make $5% more. They didn't want to say, but you can't give him all the,

you can't give him all the, you can't give Grammys all the love because they didn't want to televise him getting the Grammy. They didn't televise any of the rap awards. I think it was, I didn't white people. I can't prove it. But you're telling me that somebody like Killer Mike who we know is a great black radical man, Killer Mike could go on that stage and literally spark something in some young black kid out there that they never felt before.

I feel personally that once the Grammy's new, we got to get his guy these awards, but we're not going to televise any of them. because we got to keep this dude off our main. You got knocking down the pin. Oh, wow. And I also feel, gee, is this my personal opinion? I feel, and this is what I would have wanted to see, and I was thinking about this, I feel like Jay-Z would have bought Killer Mike on stage.

Hmm. Because if you think about what Jay-Z was saying, Jay-Z was like, yo, you didn't televise the Grammys and, you know, with Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince won in the 80s. You didn't televise it when I won in 98. Now, and we both boycotted y'all for that. Now it was 2024, and y'all still not televised in the rap category. After you have this brilliant Morehouse graduate,

one of the most brilliant black men out here, Killer Mike went three of them. Mike, come up here and give you an acceptance speech. Do you know what that would have done, yo? That would have been five. Yeah, I can't imagine that. What's crazy? That would have been a Jay-Z thing to do.

That's what I'm saying. You know. We know these people. That's something Jay would have done. Yeah, but his mind been on his wife. That's bothering him too. You know, and it's one day we got to talk about her albums. Are they really kind of being a little skewed to it?

But Jay, you know, I love the blackness that happened at the Grammys this year was more special than it's been in a long time. You know what I mean? It was more special than it wasn't a long time. Even watching Cizzer Win. You know, that was like really cool. She should have won an album with a year, though. I'm glad she won all three, but she shouldn't want an album. Yeah, that ain't, that ain't going to happen.

Hey, they wouldn't finish. That'd just be too much. You know what I'm so crazy? Is Taylor Swift's music really good? I'm sure y'all listen to it. I don't listen to it. I don't listen to Taylor Swift. But Taylor, that girl, though.

You can't front on Taylor. Is she really good, Taylor? Why do you think I listen to Harry? Is your name Taylor? Yeah. Your name Taylor. I don't know any for new albums. on an album, like, when he first came out,

like, when Andrew was doing, like, the shake-it-all. I don't know what albums they are, but whatever. So what, what? Here's the problem with black people sometimes. Black people think because we're not listening to it or because we're not on it, it's not popping. And that's what I did ask. I saw somebody yesterday say it was a tweet,

and they was like, yo, I try to stay out of white people's business, but Black, Brittany Spitz. Oh, I was good. Yeah, yeah. I don't say that. And I'm like, that's just not true. At this point, she registered to black people. Who?

Taylor surpassed Brittany. Taylor is the number two. Yeah, I don't know. A long time ago. She's the number two selling female artists of all time. She has the highest grossing concert tour of all time. She's like Madonna air. She's like in a different ear.

Madonna's number one. Madonna's the number one selling female artists of all time. Taylor's number two. Yes, still. Taylor's in that air. Yeah, Madonna is like the one. Yep. Madonna, not the two.

That's why I understand why people take it as a disrespect when I say Drake is the Madonna. Who about Celine Dion? Where does she go? I really don't get it. I'm like, God, do you know what Madonna is? Yeah, that's not offensive in all. I got to really listen to Taylor Swift.

I'm going to listen to 1989 because I need to see if it's all the hype because you just keep seeing. She's the only artist to ever win four-time albums. Yeah, I don't know if she got that kind of slaps. I don't know. But you don't think if the Gramies are biased, though, too? No. Not that.

Really? Not that bias. How can you be biased? She ain't. She got to ask you. I was going to win a award. It's like, how can you be biased to the biggest artist out? Who sold more records than Taylor last year?

Nobody? Who got the highest grossing concert of all time? Taylor. Who got the highest gross in concert film of all time? Taylor? Like, in the way. I really enjoyed talking about more black people because of black history,

but I feel like we need to talk about Taylor Swift. I'm telling you all. I was going to happen to hip hop. It's cold sloth the table. Taylor, Taylor, what's what our country thing. Hey, salute to everybody who, you know, been checking out Jess Alarius

on the Breakfast Club, too, man. Yeah, that's so dope. It's the Jess O'Hallon. I told you I said you about that. I didn't text you about that. That little rollout was really player, man. You and NVie. Y'all did that, man.

Thank you. I see a lot of people. I see everybody. I didn't know what the response was going to be to the people who got got. I thought that, you know, they would just maybe keep it a little bit G and be like, yeah, they got us. That was, they got us. But these motherfuckers on the internet don't ever want to just admit that they were wrong.

We made y'all do that. We said it was so bad. Oh, no, no. What did you do? That was corny. No, you just got got got, motherfuckers. It was corny. I was looking at Jess Tabahashi read with her fingers.

I was almost. I almost crashed to Cole. You know what's crazy? Mel Robbins. Salute to Mel Robbins. Mel Robbins is a woman who used to be a lawyer. She's really big in the mental health space right now. She left a comment and she said,

she said, Jess is actually smarter than all of us. Research shows using your finger as a visual pacer to read, makes you read faster and comprehend more. I believe that because the words do kind of, Even though I can organize a space in my mind, those words do be popping up in the middle. But damn, Jess is dope, man. And Jess is a superstar. She's fucking funny.

People don't even realize what Jess O'Larias is about to do because, see, I've been following Jess for a decade. Like, me and Jess been partners for a decade. Like, people who have you been paying attention, you see me and Jess have done a lot together. Me and Jess did, we hosted the BET, after show together back in, like, you know, 2018, you know, when I did The God's Honest Truth, I had her as one of my correspondents for the first season. When I rolled out Black Effect, just like my man Glasses with no ceilings, she was one of the first people I reached out to for her carefully reckless podcast. Like, I'm a huge fan of Jess O'Larias. I love what she does, but she already got a

base because of social media. And people don't, like, even, she's been in a whole bunch of movies. She's been in a sitcom already. Remember Rural had his sitcom on Fox? She was the co-star on Fox. Like, she's got a base already. All radio is going to do is take her base and magnify it times 100. Like, there's no women.

She's dope. Huh? She's dope. She's not no punk. It's natural, too. It's natural. Because that's Baltimore. You're talking about culture.

Baltimore, that deal. That teal and that deal. All right. Everybody's dummy. That is flavor. Now, see, now we talk. That's some flavor. That is season.

And she's only 31. She's about to be 32 next week. Y'all got that right. That was a good pick. She is hilarious as hell. She is funny. And she's honest. And, you know, she's a mother.

You know, like, like, she's just as perfect. Y'all just sit back and watch what happens to just hilarious over the next three to five years. And also, she's, you know, she's just. He's the only black woman comedian on the radio. Steve Harvey was a stand-up comedian. He went through radio. You saw how his career took off. D.L. Hughley, he still does stand-up comedy.

He got one of the most successful shows in the afternoon. You see how D.L. is out here moving. Ricky Smiley. Ricky Smiley is a stand-up comedian. It still does morning radio. Jess is the only black woman comedian on morning radio. I think the only black woman comedian on a nationally syndicated show. So hopefully y'all said it.

trend, man. Hopefully I set a trend and more assistance get them looks, man. I'll be really open for that, man. I love Jess, man. Let's tell you. Let's do some masking it. Okay. This is from Mandra 1 underscore. What is the biggest challenge you've overcome in your mental health?

Oh, go ahead, glasses. We don't hear you talk about that. You know I don't believe in that. That's right. You don't believe in mental health? You don't believe in mental health classes? Charlotte may know I feel about that We're black Oh my God

You got a It's ugly Glasses I'm disappointed in you Don't put me up under I'm letting Charlotte He is this is his expertise I am the wrong one

To talk about him Do you believe that you have trauma though glasses Okay So you don't think you'll impact that trauma Yeah you don't think you I always do How it depends what happened

if somebody disrespect me inside of a restaurant I probably kicked their ass that's how I'm packed the trauma I'm calling me a nigger how dare you call me a nigger Mr. White man let me kick your ass and then I felt better

about existing well you know somebody like Erica Ford she rides around with this thing she got to cause like a trauma bus and she literally has a punching bag in it for people to go in there bunk bum bum bum so there's something to do that Taylor looked at me crazy because you got to also learn

how to talk stuff out. You talk enough. So why don't you talk stuff out about... How are you talking, Taddy? You have a podcast. You like talking. I know, but you don't want to know the depth of this. Let's get to the point.

Mental Health, tell them. What was the question, Dale? Guys, I'm sorry. I got a rug, guys. Okay. What is the question, tell you? What is the biggest challenge you've overcome in your mental health? What is the biggest challenge?

Oh, no, I think I'm still dealing with it. Like, you know, like I talk to my therapist quite often. Like I said, I'm going on my spiritual retreat this weekend. Who are you going? I'm going. I tell you all when I come back. No, that's a boy. My boy is, see, you still know.

You still know. I'm now. I'm now. I'll tell you when I come back. Talk about this when I get back. If you see me post from somewhere, I'm gone. I've been gone for days. Already back.

At the airport coming back. Yeah, but yeah, just still getting a handle on to anxiety. I don't know if anxiety is something that you ever really truly get a handle on. I just think it's something that you, you know, you kind of learn to live with. Like, you get tools to have to be able to maintain it, like breathing exercises, meditation and stuff like that. Because Sarah Jake Roberts told me something really ill. Sloop to Sarah Jake Roberts, too.

You can listen to the Woman of All podcast on the Black Effect IHard Radio Podcast Network. But Sarah Jake Roberts told me something one time in a conversation. I don't even know she remembers this. But she said that you're always going to have anxiety because, Because basically if you're doing what you're supposed to be doing in life, you're always constantly going to be going to new levels. And when you go to new levels, it's places you've never been before. So if you've never been there before, of course you're going to have some anxiety.

You know what I mean? Like it says, it's a new space. It's a new terrain. So if you're doing life the way you're supposed to, every new level you get to, you know, you're going to have some anxiety about it. So new levels, new depth. That's it. What they say?

What else do you do? you got Taylor? From Charlie Mark Siano which movie character describes you the best and why.

Go ahead G. I'm going to say Do Boy from Boys in the Hook. That's not true. That's an big one. See how you do that? That's not true. That's a great question. I had to pick a character that describes me the best.

You go first. You go first. Let me figure it out. A character that describes me the best. I don't know, man. You know what's so interesting. It's going to sound crazy, but you know something I've always,

I always visualize myself as like a Lonzo in Training Day. I actually can't get how that makes sense. I like Lonzo and Training Day, yo. That's the real you, though. I don't think he was a bad guy. he wasn't he was trying to make sure he got himself out of the little trouble yes and he took no prisoners yeah but but i think there was a way for him to i think there was a way

for him to channel what he had for something good because the thing that i hated the most about that movie was how he disrespected the hood like those dudes in that projects like there's no way that white boy should have ever made it out there alive but that's because uh lanzo never treated that hood with respect. He used his power and his position of power to instill fear in them. There was no love.

There was no love. So as soon as he was down and there was an opportunity to get him to fuck up out of here because number one, they knew that he had to make that drop off to the Russians. Right? So they knew if he didn't make that drop, he was going to die. I ain't going to be done with his head.

So they're like, nigga, you get up out of here, Hoyt, we got your back. That would have never happened. if Lonzo was really showing that community love, which I didn't understand why he did because his son and one of his baby mommas was there. Sometimes people in their communities only know how to apply fear. There is.

A lot of dudes I grew up with older homies. They were brought up and that's all they needed was fear. And I think that is something they get wrong. I do think fear is important, but I also think love is just as powerful. But you can't depend on either one. And I think he's the example of what happens when you depend on actual fear. They'll just find somebody that you're scared of. And that's what happened.

But how's that relate to you, sure. I'm confused. I just like that character. It's not that I'm not telling you all that I look at this character. And I'm like, oh, that's me. I'm saying that I like everything about that character in that movie. I like this sense of humor. You know, I liked how he was about his business.

And he could have took that energy. and really created something great for that community, you know, that he was in. Like, I don't know, I just, I just like that. I like that long-go character a lot. For me, it's probably Thanos from Avengers. Okay. I know, right?

I feel like I'm always fighting to save the world against itself. Like, I'm fighting hip-hop to save hip-hop against hip-hop. Thanos is a good one. It's like you see, you see everything, you see, like you study rock and you see what's going to happen. Like I can see the future. I've seen this before. And it's like, yo, if we keep allowing them to move people into this space to represent us,

then eventually they don't need us. And now we back in the same predicament we were in pre-19, you know, 79 before the business of hip-hop began. And so that's, you know, my greatest fear. So I'm fighting more people within the culture to preserve another space for the next generation. then people outside understands it. People outside understand it. So I feel like Thanos in a lot of conversations. Like I'm telling girls, hey, you know what?

You should actually preserve yourself, keep yourself, don't give yourself to these guys until they make the ultimate commitment. And like I'm getting cussed out. You shouldn't get cussed out for that. Thanos knew he needed to destroy half of the population to save the whole population that was left. Like it was being consumed too fast. And he fought everybody in the space. to try to save the world

and they kill him to only realize the world is going to end. But you know why? Because Thanos, just like Lonzo in Training Day, didn't sit down and have a conversation with the community because here's the thing. We can all agree there's some motherfuckers

that need to be snapped away. But we got to sit down and decide who needs to be snapped. You can't have all this power, Thanos and just randomly say half the population. No, let's think this through. It's just like segregation, right? I always say segregation was a great concept

that was poorly executed because it shouldn't have been about race, it should have been about behavior. There's plenty of people right now we segregate ourselves from because we don't want to be around them and whatever they bullshit they got going on. That's what Thanos should have done. He should have really thought it through, sat down with the Avengers and whoever else

and figured out who really need to go. They did. That's the point. He did it at random. But that's what makes it unfair. That's not, that's actually the fair. It's like chance. That's the fairest thing in the world.

It's not particular. It's not based off, you know, a lot of times we can misjudge somebody. Speaking of mental health, we can misjudge somebody's circumstances and how it makes them react and think they're a bad person or they're about bullshit when reality, they had an opportunity. They'd be different. And we could get rid of all the white supremacists. You can get rid of all the pedophiles. You can get rid of all, no, you can get rid of all the niggas who ain't going to never do nothing

but kill every freaking body. Like, there's a lot of people you can get rid of. of, yo. He snapped 4 billion people away. You ain't even get to 4 million. He snapped multiverses. He didn't just snap their one earth. I'm saying 4 billion. I'm telling you, you ain't

even got the 400 million or 4 million. Like, it's going to come down to some people, you know, you have to lose, you have to sacrifice a little bit. Like, here's a question. Taylor, Charlemagne, would you kill a baby to save the world? Well, yeah, exactly.

I went back into the future and the baby was Hitler. What if the baby was Stalin? You know what I mean? What if the baby was somebody that we knew was going to throw up? Let's say it was baby Hitler. No, I agree. Let's say it's baby Hitler in his cradle. And you knew what Hitler was going to become 47 years,

how many years, 40-some years later. But it's baby Hitler. Little baby Hitler in his bed. Yeah. You know what you know. But then baby, he's a little baby, baby Hitler. And he's in this little cradle and he's looking all cute and he's looking up hoping you feed him some little applesauce.

I'll kill him. I don't care. I don't believe that, Taylor. Why? You ain't killing no baby. You just say if I know he's going to grow up to be Hitler, yeah. I'm saying he could grow up to be the worst person in the world, but it's a baby. So I don't know he's going up to be.

Do what I would do? It's what I would do. I would keep an eye on him. Listen, listen, listen, listen. I would try to probably instill a lot of things in him that he never had as a child. But I would still keep an eye on him. And if I saw it inkling, a inkling of that dictatorship coming out, you're going to have to get a guy. See, and that's what people, and this is what people like me you need that's going to do the work.

Like, everybody wants me to feel bad. That's why you're the low. Dead. Dead. Dead. Because it's about the world going on. And that's how I feel about hip hop. I don't care who comes under my knife at the expense of the ghetto having a chance to keep creating opportunities for itself.

Because we're not doing a great enough job as a complete dash four for people. We're doing as good as we can, but we're not doing a great enough time. You know there's a line in Avengers. I think it's either endgame while. Infinity where with Don Chito is like, why don't we just go back in time, get him as a baby. You know what I'm saying? And it's true.

And, you know, I don't have a problem with that, to be totally honest. By the way, you don't even, you don't even got to kill the baby, though. You just, you kill his daddy. I'm saying, but you have to kill the baby. No, you kill his daddy. You kill his daddy. Not you can weave your way out of it. Go back in time and kill his daddy before the babies even concede.

But what if there was, is a killer. never came. What if there was someone else worse than Hitler, though? There's Stalin. There's a lot of people. There's already somebody worse to Hitler. There's already people worse to Hitler, but Hitler is just, for some reason, he's the specific

he's the target that everybody talking. I think he killed the most. He killed the most. No, the dude in Africa knocked down a bunch of people too. Who? White man in Africa. What was it? I forgot his name. I thought his name. I think his name. I forgot his name. He did a lot of shit. I remember

him. I tried to get him on purpose. He killed way more people than Hitler. Hold on. Let's see. Let's see. What dictator killed the most people? White man and Hitler. God damn. I never even heard of these people. Yeah. I'm telling you. This ain't right. I know this ain't right because the person they got at number one, I know for a fact Hitler's number of Trump to him.

Who's that number one? Hitler's number three. Who's that number one? Stalin is number two. Number one is Mayo the Dong. He was a Chinese. I'm reading this off. This says he was a Chinese. Chinese revolutionary political theorist and community leader who led the People's Republic of China. He killed between 49 and 78 million deaths. Damn, Chris Moro should have been on this podcast.

I know Chris knows who that is. Stalin is number two with 23 million deaths. Adolf Hitler is number three with 17 million. Yeah. That's about right. That's about accurate. So, it, yeah. Thanos would be my character, man, because...

Snap them out of existence. Yeah, I'm fighting the world to save the world. I'm with you. Gee. I'm fighting hip hop to save hip hop. Hey, salute to the lobe. Glass is Loak. Make sure you check out the No Seelis podcast on the Black Effect IHard Radio podcast network.

I appreciate you always, G. Thank you, my guy. Much love. I'm Googlerable. Glass is loke everywhere. That's right. Taylor, thank you. And I'll see y'all when I come back for my spiritual journey.

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