The Brilliant Idiots - Noise Cutterz (Ft. Wayno & Nyla)

Episode Date: December 24, 2020

Happy Holidays! This week we have Wayno and Nylo filling in for and Andrew who is on vacation and we discuss the top artist and albums of 2020, Having no expectations for 2021, relevancy of radio in m...usic today, black people getting superpowers, who’s taking the Covid-19 vaccine, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's so stupid. It's positively brilliant. Yep, Sholomey, the God. We are The Brilliant Idiots back for another week. Andrew Schultz is absolutely on vacation. Andrew fuck shit up and then he left. You know, he dropped his special. Schultz saved America on Netflix. And then he went on vacation to Hawaii for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:00:23 So I'm not mad at him. So I got a couple of people who I respect so much. My folks is in here. My man Wayno Was good Was good What's up Y'allel
Starting point is 00:00:33 And Naila is here I can't see it Can you hear Nile? Yeah, I can hear and see you Okay I can see Naila too All right It must be my Wi-Fi then
Starting point is 00:00:42 But have y'all Have y'all seen shows Special Waino Nail? I saw it You said what did you think I need your
Starting point is 00:00:51 honest opinion Well I only watched I think it was I don't Is it an episode I watched like The first episode of it and then I didn't
Starting point is 00:01:01 go on to anything else but it was kind of like the same shit he does on YouTube I thought it was pretty cool I told you I like that when he talks about a bunch of various topics it seemed a little bit different than the YouTube one I don't know how they recorded it and that but like it's pretty much the same thing he does on YouTube but I thought it was dope
Starting point is 00:01:17 yeah just longer Naila what did? Nile I ain't seen nothing now what do you watch Nile what content do you take in? Oh you don't support white people I said that or you said that? That's what it is? I said it. Well, listen, the reason I wanted y'all here today, I mean, for a number of reasons, a bunch of things that we can talk about.
Starting point is 00:01:40 But I was really thinking about, like, people's hip-hop lists. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is the end of the year where, you know, everybody comes out with their best albums of the year list or their best artists of the year. And, you know, our good brother, B-Dot, the B stands for. Fibious. Okay. He put out his list. I don't have his list in front of me right now.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Anybody got his list? Yeah. Bring it. I'm not upset at B.Dutch list. You know, B.D.D. is one of those people that I literally talk to every day because of the group chat. And I'm not mad at B. Dodge list because it's his list. But there's one thing I want all of us to start doing when we make our list.
Starting point is 00:02:28 just say that this is our favorite albums of the year or say that this is our favorite artists of the year. I think when you cast blanket statements and you say this is the best album of the year or this is the best artists of the year, that's what the problems come in. Personally. Okay, there it goes. So BDOT put MVP, 10 best rapper of the 2020.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Freddie Gibbs, number one, Conway to Machine, number two. Benny the butcher number three, Russ number four, Big Sean number five, Little Baby number six, Nause number seven, Drake number eight, Little Wayne, number nine, Stove God, Cook number 10. His criteria is based on skill, performance, and presence. Naila, what do you think? I'll start with you. Yeah, nah. The fact that he got Little Baby at number six is disrespectful,
Starting point is 00:03:19 and Little Baby's easily top three and not three, and not two either. I really don't like the fact that he got Conway the Machine as number two. I just think it doesn't even make any sense. Based on skill, performance, and presence, I don't really understand, I guess, performance and presence for half of these artists. And I never even heard of, I never even heard. Stove God.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I said you never heard of Stoke's. I never heard of him. When I started listening first, I'm like, this can't be right because it's artists on here I never even heard of. I am happy that Russ is on there. that's fair Drake all right
Starting point is 00:04:03 Wayne about Wayne actually no no because I really love Little Wayne little Wayne's a goat but the verse Wayne verse that I heard
Starting point is 00:04:15 from him in years years is the verse that he did with Freddie Gibbs like the feature he gave Jack Harlow was trash she's been giving out
Starting point is 00:04:22 mad trash features so the fact that Wayne is on this top tin list I mean I guess I think a lot of this
Starting point is 00:04:29 is just out of respect because Those are his friends. And he grew up. Wayno, what do you think, my brother? So, all right. So the list, I'm not met. Other than the stove,
Starting point is 00:04:42 I've been hearing, I heard about stove guard prior to him being on the list. Like somebody sent me his project, I still haven't gotten a chance to listen to it. But I respect everybody that's on this list. Now, my biggest problem would beat out on this list
Starting point is 00:04:54 is where little baby is at. I think, like, in 2020, for you to have little baby six on anything. I'm talking about anything regarding music right now, especially rap, is ridiculous. I think that Freddie Gibbs, that's a good place. I think that all these people deserve, well, I don't know if they deserve the certain spaces, but like Conway, I feel like Conway, yeah, as far as skill, he's one of the best, but like Nyla said, performance and presence. And when we was on clubhouse, I kept saying that to be that, like, what do you mean about performance
Starting point is 00:05:26 and presence? Because if we're talking about presence, little baby has the biggest presence. in hip-hop. Like, I feel like... He said presence was relevancy. That's what he told me. That's what I'm saying. Relevancy. Like, and so this is my problem that I have where, you know, I feel like New York gets this
Starting point is 00:05:43 cloud that we don't love or respect to South specifically Atlanta, and that's bullshit. Like, I love that. Y'all don't respect nothing except New York. That's bullshit because I've been in a bubble way before Corona. It has, but I will tell you from myself, I'm a person who has family, my family's from Fairville, North Carolina. I got cousins that live all in Atlanta. For where I found out about three six mafews, my home girl had cousins in Memphis, used to come back with the tapes. So when I see Little Baby in the space like that, I'm like, nah, yeah, niggas is bugging.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I felt like Little Baby should have been nominated for a Grammy only because that would make other people who are biased, give him his respect as a rapper, because he has the best rap album to me. I feel like he has the best rapping album because it covers everything. True. Now, I feel like Little Wayne shouldn't be on the list. I feel like certain artists like I feel like Drake shouldn't be on the list and that's not no slight to Drake
Starting point is 00:06:36 but I feel like Drake took a year honestly even him dropping that tape the nigga took a year off he still took a year off and that nigga took a year off and that day. Demo is just really not a great tape like it's not but I just feel like him
Starting point is 00:06:48 I feel like nah shouldn't be I feel like if we're gonna make these lists these lists should be for what's current which not just young you know I mean because I don't want to exclude the niggas that's older but like it should be what's current across the board
Starting point is 00:07:00 And I feel like Freddie Gibbs should be on there. I even feel like Rush should be on there. I feel like Conway, yeah, because he dropped the great album, but it's Ludo Dirk should be on this list. Polo G should be on this list. You know what I'm saying? I feel like Polo G is one of the most slept-on young niggas out here. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Like he should be on this list. It's just, like you said, it should be BDAT's just his list. His favorite list. Listen, that's why, you know, I forgot to say that we start to show off with a positively brilliant, what a fucking idiot. This is one of those things that can go on either one because it's positively brilliant the way B-Dat got everybody talking. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:30 But, you know, this list is pretty idiotic. You know what I mean? Especially when you say, and that's my man, but especially when you say based on skill, performance, and presence. And I told BDOT, if it's just based on skill, just rapping, totally understand everybody that's on that list. And when you talk about presence and you tell me that presence means relevancy, there's no way you can have a 2020 list without the baby.
Starting point is 00:07:56 There's no way you can have a 2020 list. without Meg the Stallion. Right. There's no way you can have a 2020 list where, like you said, little baby is anything other than in the top two. And there's no way you can have a 2020 list without Roddy Rich. That's impossible. It's impossible if it's based on skill, performance, and presence.
Starting point is 00:08:14 If you're being objective. Now, like I said, if it's your favorite list, your list is going to look like BDod. I would like for BDOT to explain him so based off of his, you know, measurements. Because performance-wise, like, what performance did Drake, Wayne, Um, stove god. I still don't even know who he is. Like, what performance did they do? Like, Meg's performances was everywhere.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Her YouTube stuff, the BET performance, the graduation stuff. Like, there's artists out here really being creative, and they didn't even make the list. Well, BDaz not even talking about that kind of performance. Yeah, he's not. He said he's talking about the way you perform on records. Like your flow, your delivery. For me, once again, with that, you can't be Roddy Rich off. This performance is amazing on records.
Starting point is 00:09:02 My biggest problem with the whole Roddy Rich shit, and I feel like Roddy Rich is getting unfairly shitted on because he dropped the album the first week of December. It's not a 2019 album. That shit is not a 20- He dropped his album. He dropped his album. The box was hot for months prior. The box was like one of the biggest record.
Starting point is 00:09:22 To me, there's still the biggest record of 2020, but it's like because the pandemic happened, people forgot that Roddy Rich actually dropped a great, body of work. It performed, but he's not, he's not saying it like that, but it performed very well. It was everywhere. He had one of the biggest records. He had one of the biggest presents. Shit, not even the box. What's the other drink? Ballin. The rock star.
Starting point is 00:09:42 No, balling. With DJ Musta, even though it's DJ's record, that shit still held 2020 down. So it's like, how does Roddy Rich not make a record? And I feel like I will not make a listen. I feel like a lot of people will putting him to the side because he dropped his album the first week at the summer. That makes no sense to me. Why is BDOT criteria different than all award shows? Every award show, if your album comes out in December, they will reward you the very, like the next year. Like, because it's a cutoff date, right?
Starting point is 00:10:10 It's a cutoff date with the baby. Actually, Roddy Richard's album won't be eligible until the next Grammys, if I'm not mistaken. That's crazy because look, but think about this, right? I mean, just growing up, every year when Jay-Z dropped in December, shit, everybody wrote his album into the next summer. Absolutely. His album came out in the fourth quarter to hold down the next year until the next four quarter.
Starting point is 00:10:34 So I just don't get how Roddy Rich is not considered for anything. Compared to when Jay's, well, not that Jay Z still not dropping albums, but compared to back then, we process music so much faster. Not only just music, though, we process, we process, like, just everything so much faster. So for that, it kind of makes sense as to why it was forgotten about. But, you know, for this to be his job, he violated. Listen, B.Dott's going to contradict himself next year. I'm going to tell you why, because I saw his top albums of 2020 list, and he put Jack Hollow on them. Jack Hollow's album just came out like laughing. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Next year, this is going to happen. Jack's album is going to bubble for the next six, seven months, right? Jack's going to be hot. And then next year, B.Dock going to try to put Jack Hollow on his best rap was the 2020 list. And we got to say, nope, he put that fucking album out in December. The same shit you held Roddy Richie, you got to hold Jack
Starting point is 00:11:28 to Hall into. I already see him about to set himself up to contradict himself. Yeah, he is. They was already getting at him about that already, so, you know, it's definitely going to happen. But I don't want to pick a B-Dutch list, what I want to ask y'all is because I don't have best artists. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't have favorite artists of
Starting point is 00:11:43 2020. I just do albums. I like albums that I fucking. What were y'all top albums of 2020? Hmm. I say I start off a Little Baby's album, my turn. 21 Savage,
Starting point is 00:12:00 you know. Same. Savage Motu. Same. Yeah, Savage Motu. Polo G. His album, Dirk's, album um shit trying to think the baby i think the baby did better on a deluxe i like
Starting point is 00:12:15 little uzi's deluxe as the uh eternal take deluxe i like the deluxe i like the deluxe more than i like the actual eternal take um him and see that's the other thing too a lot of those albums you polo g i haven't listened to go oogie i haven't listened to somebody else little dirk i didn't hear a little dirk's album right how you ain't get these out shalry that's what i'm saying. I haven't even heard these projects, but that's why that's another thing, too. How can you really give an objective opinion about these albums and say what is the best if you didn't
Starting point is 00:12:44 listen to everything? You'd have to listen to everything to give that opinion. I know B.D.D. ain't listened to all of me. Well, he says, and I quote, I listen to more rap music than the average person, so he lives and dies by that. From what decade? Also,
Starting point is 00:13:00 I got it, Conway's album, too. Conway's album from King to God. I love the album is hard. Like, I feel like that album is really hard. It's a lot. You know, it's crazy. It's hard for me to even remember how many albums come out because so many come out so fast. Like, I really be having to look back like, oh, that was this year.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah. For me, I really, really loved number one, little baby album. I love Cash Page album. I loved Coilera's Mix tape. I loved Spillage Village. Love that project. I love... I like Sminos.
Starting point is 00:13:35 She already decided. mixtape. What else did I listen to a lot? I don't know. Once I pick my faves, I just kind of keep them in rotation type thing. Yeah. And see what I'm saying? Like, once again, I listen to Spillage Village because of Nilela. They dope.
Starting point is 00:13:50 No, that's her. Irkins and Spillage Village, yeah. That's the ass all of them to go. They dope. But I didn't hear a lot of those projects that she named. And that's what, that goes back to what I say. We got to stop saying what we are generalized. This is the best. And just say this is my
Starting point is 00:14:06 My favorite. These are my topout. So wait, I got to, I can't leave without mentioning. We can't leave without Meet the Woo. Meet the Woo too is my favorite. Yeah. Yeah. It felt, you know, Maloney, it felt like it was two years ago.
Starting point is 00:14:21 But Pop Smoke, and I feel like Pop Smoke, you know, unfortunately, he passed away. But I told, I said it's the beat out too. Like, I don't think there's no list you could put out and deny his presence, even with him leaving him being gone. Like, his presence is everywhere to where you seeing kids. in Africa, we're walking. You know what I'm saying? So I think like...
Starting point is 00:14:40 Every guy and girl went and got the braids. Like, that was the style to have the pop smoke braids. The pop smoke braids. And it sold a lot of records. Yeah, Weekends album, too. I think Weekends album is hard. And he has said from, like, selling records, just the fact that, like, he passed away in the controversy
Starting point is 00:14:58 on his album artwork. Like, the fact that it was like a general population involved in the process of his album being done, like, says a lot. Does Pop Smoke, is that album successful if he doesn't tragically get killed? Is it still as successful as it was? Honestly, I don't think it is. And I think to me, he was my favorite new artist.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I don't think it is. Of course, that brings more attention to whatever's going on. You know, King Vaughn passed away and got a million followers the next week. You know what I'm saying? After he passed. Jada Kidd said it's the best.
Starting point is 00:15:34 You know, the rap is getting better promotion. But I don't think it performs the same way, but it is what it is, and I just can't negate the influence. And people might get at me for saying this, but I feel like for the kids in New York, that's this generation's Biggie. Yeah. I feel like the impact that he had, like the impact. Biggie died when I was like 13, going on 14, and that was everything to us in the parties, summertime, cookouts, everything. And I feel like Pop Smoke's presence for these kids of today is the same as Biggie's was for me. I think album sales wise, maybe it wouldn't have.
Starting point is 00:16:06 been as successful, but for him, it just would have been like another pinnacle. Like, he would have kept gone because he was definitely next to blow. Yeah, I mean, he was doing a lot of stuff. He's starring in that Eddie Hung movie. Charity. Yeah. Like, he was getting all the. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:23 That Eddie Hung movie, Boogie that's coming out, you know, pop smoke starred in that. I got a role in that, too. I mean, that's the only reason I knew he was in it because when I shot forward, like, a while ago, he was star. What's your role? You acting at Charlotte? Yeah. Who are you playing?
Starting point is 00:16:37 Are you playing as the dude after where the money resides? No, I don't. I don't want to give it away. I don't want to give it away. I'm not playing myself, though. I'll tell you that. The movie is about basketball. You're a coach.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I'm not mistaken. What can you see Charlottlesbein do with basketball? I'm definitely not. I'm definitely not a player. I'm definitely not a player. You can get a little birdie roll off. You know what I mean? Drug dealer support.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I should definitely get a birdie roll off. I would love to do something like that. But I think Pop Smoke might have still had success, though. Because he had that presence. You know what I'm saying? He had like a real star presence. And he already had the biggest market in the country behind him, which is New York.
Starting point is 00:17:22 You know what I mean? And I think New York has been waiting for a champion that they can get behind. You know what I mean? Like they haven't had that in a while. Like Cardi might have been the last one, probably Nikki before her, but let's be real. They don't get behind women the way they get behind it.
Starting point is 00:17:38 They don't. But New York, I feel like New York can't get behind him either. And I feel like, I feel like Boogie was a champion for us, but I feel like as far as the city, they didn't get behind him the way he should, like, you know. It wasn't a movement. Pops was not a movement. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:54 That whole woo thing and everything, like, it's a movement. I don't know. I don't know. I was new to New York when A. Boogie had got hot and I felt like it was forced on me. Like, I ain't have a choice but to, like, A, Boogie, because they just kept playing the records. And even at events, like, A Boogie would show up
Starting point is 00:18:10 and bring his whole hood. It felt like a movement to me. But it wasn't, I say, as impactful as Pop Smoke. Because, like I said, people were trying to dress like Pop, talk like Pop, you know, do everything. He had the full effects. It's actually Wu Wednesday right now, too, you know? Really?
Starting point is 00:18:30 Now, that's what the kids, that's what the meme kids call it. Every day they call, every Wednesday, they call it, Woo Wednesday. So they post a bunch of memes of pipe smoke. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Listen, my favorite albums of the year, Viti to Butcher, Bird and the Proof. Conway, the Machine from a King to a God.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Naz's King Disease. Run the Jewel's 4, which I don't hear nobody mentioning for whatever reason. Run the Jews 4 was amazing. 21 Savage Savage Mode 2. T.I. Libra. I fuck with Big Sean, Detroit, too. I thought that project was dope. Royce the 5-9
Starting point is 00:19:01 allegory. Little baby, my turn. and y'all motherfuckers really sleeping on the city girl city on. Okay, I'm telling you right now, if the streets was open and it wasn't a pandemic, the city girls would be the hottest rap group, period, and the hottest female rappers out period right now. I want to talk about big Sean Zablin. I got to talk about City Girls. So the City Girls project, yes, was good, and it still did well, even though we're in a pandemic, one, and then two, it's something about when the City Girls come on in the club.
Starting point is 00:19:33 It's like the whole energy shifts. Like, every part who wants to dance and starts dancing is crazy. So. Because they speak to your inner hood rat. All that ratchet shit y'all really want to do. All your women that want to be like really about fucking these niggas and taking their money and trying to do it, they are. It's the same thing with gangster rap, right? When you get some gangsters talking some real gangster shit, as a man, you're like, oh, shit, you want to live that life by carelessly for them.
Starting point is 00:20:00 City Girls music is definitely. it's definitely like made for outside and outside only. Like you have to experience it. Like you have to experience it. And I do agree. Like, like when their music come on, it does make like the lady that's, she's trying to pass the bar test. She's going to be acting up that night.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Like, you know what I mean? Like she's going to be going on. And I feel sorry for them because they didn't get the experience that. Like, JT just came home. So she ain't get the experience being on the road, torn. She didn't get the experience hearing her records in the club in that way. because they had some joints on City on lock
Starting point is 00:20:34 that would have went off this. They said, they should got leaked too, though. Remember, like, they should have got leaked like a week early or like a few days early, so that hurt them a little bit as well. I don't believe about leaking in 2020. I doesn't want to leak in 2020. Nah.
Starting point is 00:20:49 You're saying that. They put that out. Somebody forced that. Somebody in the team put that out. I think so. Maybe, maybe, but getting back to Big Sean's album, because people were saying that this is Big Sean's best album, Do you think this is Big Sean's best album?
Starting point is 00:21:05 No. Nah, it's not his best album. It's good, though. It's really good, but it's not his best album. It's good, but yeah, it's definitely not his best album. What would you all say this best album? I feel like this album, I feel like Big Sean makes the same type of albums, every album. This album, to me, it was the one that had, bigger than me on there.
Starting point is 00:21:25 What was the dog side? Darkside Paradise, yeah. Dachy, Paradise. That's, to me, that's the best body of work. It is. I think that's his best body of work. I think it's his most honest body of work as well. I feel like one thing about his music is definitely always honest.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Like this project is very honest also. I like where he's at. You know, I can be grown. I like him talking about therapy, fighting his demons. Like where he's at with his relationship with Jenae. I mean, the whole package, beautifully, beautifully done. But as far as like the album and I want Big Shion to get his albums, I want all the young old Gs in that class to get their flowers.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Like, while they still need to get his flowers. Col got his, Drake got his Kendrick. Mink got his championship. I want all of them to get their flowers, but I do feel like, I don't know. I feel like Big Sean still doesn't have his like Forest Hill drives or his championship. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah, I don't, well, I think Dark Side Paradise, I think that that was like, hmm, to me that was kind of risky. That's the closest to it, but you know, a lot of times, shit, it might not have it for everybody. We got to accept that as well. Even when we say that way, though, what do we mean when we say that? Because I think sometimes you got to appreciate where you are. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:40 I think sometimes you look at Drake, you look at Kendrick, you look at Cole, and you say, I want that kind of success, but that may not be the success that that's destined for you. But what's wrong with being Big Sean? What's wrong with being Wiley, consistently gold artists? Nothing's wrong at all. I'm just saying it's like when we think about a moment. It's a lot of factors that leads into Meeks championships. There's a lot of things that leads into Drake's take care.
Starting point is 00:23:04 It's a lot of things that leads into Kendrick's damn or even a good kid mad city. It's like it's a certain energy that leads into that shit. And I feel like, you know, with Big Sean, he takes a lot of time off. And he's been honest about letting people know, like, yo, I was really going through something. And that's why it's being received a certain way. But I don't know if he has like if that energy is going to be received for him to make a body of work that everybody's going to like. I feel like Big Sean is a great artist, but he's still. shit that's like, oh, you got to be a fan of that, nigga, like, in order to really get it.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Like, you got to be a hardcore fan of him to really get it. I agree. Like, dots aren't, for some reason the dots haven't completely connected for Big Sean, because I don't even think people respect Big Sean as a lyricist the way to do they shit. I think Big Sean has been one of the top three lyrics. And he's dangerous. He's dangerous. A long time.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yes. Big Sean says shit that I don't hear nobody else saying, that boy be snapping. But for whatever reason, he don't get that credit even as just being a dope-ass rap. I would just blend Kanye. anybody on good music that John Ford I'd be like it's kind of a fault You think it's
Starting point is 00:24:06 Jay fault? You think it's Jay fault? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, he played a big role. I think Big Sean suffers from what guys like Charles Barkley, Carl Malone,
Starting point is 00:24:25 those guys, Patrick Ewan, I think he suffers from what those guys suffer from. He just happens to be in an era where some would say the greatest of all time is, right? Like, you would have to put Drake and Kendrick in like the greatest of all time combo, right? Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? So when you play in that era, when you came out in that class with goats of that caliber and even even Cole, you know what I mean? Colga? Col got. Yeah. Colgoy rings, but I mean, I don't put Cole one of the greatest. He's one of the greatest. I don't put him on the level of Drake and Kendrick.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I don't even put Drake on the level of Kendrick. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, you don't put Cole on the level of Drake and Kendrick? Why not? Not skill-wise. Not skill-wise? Not skill-wise. Not straight.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Not his music. Cole has to listen. Cole could rap. Cole is amazing. I just think, like, and I'm not saying anything, I'm not taking anything away from him. He's a Hall of Fame, All-Star. All I'm simply saying is it's a difference between what a Kendrick does, and what everybody else does to me.
Starting point is 00:25:30 But guess what? Some people may say that about Drake. Some people might put Drake the way I hold Kendrick and say everybody else is after him. But my point with saying that is those two guys are such goats that they make everybody else look almost normal. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:44 I get what you going. Charles Barkley looks normal compared to a Michael Jordan. It's hard to tell you. I ain't a lot. It's hard to tell kids about Charles Barkley. Like I was a kid when Charles Barkley, was won the MVP and niggas be like him like really like that you had to see it that and
Starting point is 00:26:03 that's why I tell a lot of kids about Jordan like you had to see that shit you know what I mean you might not get it watching clips or not they got it because of the last dance yeah yeah last dance the last dance show them but but if you think about that right think about all of the great players that are first ballot hall of famous who never got rings because Michael Jordan existed in that era yeah let's let's talk about scotty pippen scotty pippen is absolutely positively a top 50 greatest player of all time. He's incredible. Michael Jordan probably doesn't do what he does without Scotty Pippen.
Starting point is 00:26:34 That's a fact. Scottie Pippen don't even get his just due because he played next to the greatest of all time. And I think guys like Big Sean suffer from being in that era. You gotta play with breaks and the coals and the Hendricks. That's all. It don't make Sean away while any less whack. I mean, any less dope.
Starting point is 00:26:52 They're dope. They're not whack at all. Yeah. While A, like what Naila said, like, well, Wile is so special, and I feel like a lot of times, him being so passionate comes off sometimes as arrogance. It also comes off as him being a dickhead or an asshole, and that's not the case. I feel like he's just very passionate because he's like the nigger that wasn't one of the lottery draft. He wasn't lottery draft pick and rap, but like he's not projected to be as good as he really is.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I think niggas sleep on his skill a lot, yo. It's disgusting. Like, Wale is one, I think he's one of the best. He dropped the EP this year too. That was tough. And right on time, it was going to point about, like, the police brutality we were going through. Like, the shit was fire. I love Wale.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And not because I'm from the DMV. Like, the niggins just being really great. And you got to salute Walee because Walee ain't even from this class. Wale's actually from the class ahead of them. Wale's from the Lubei fiasco, kid-cutty. He's from the Drey class. You remember he from the Drey class? He's from the Drake class.
Starting point is 00:27:52 He is. He is. He was. Remember it was the fuck GQ man of the year. Drizzie Cutty and me. Oh yeah, yeah, when you were all on the washing machine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, you're right, you're right.
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Starting point is 00:30:57 So this is my thing with cutty man. While cutty is you know he's he's he's great and he had a to me the first man on the moon is classic. I feel like a lot of the people overrate him on a lot of shit. I feel like he's overrated on a lot of shit. I do. I really believe. And explain. So this is a thing.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Like I don't like all right. I understand that there's a whole class of emo kids that like was in a dark place and all that shit, and his music means the best of them. And for the first man on the moon, like when that shit came out, that shit was hard. Like, I was sleeping on him then. I feel like it's a classic and all that. But as far as his skill set and all of that after,
Starting point is 00:31:33 I think that he gets out, like, I think he get a lot of credit for shit that, I don't know, man. I just don't think he's as good as people make him out to beat. And he's talented. I'm not saying the nigga not talented, but I just feel like they'd be putting him on this pedestal that I don't think he's on, me personally. I don't think it has to do with,
Starting point is 00:31:50 this skill set though. I think I think it's for what you just said. It's the way he makes people feel. Like he provides the soundtrack and you know for those emotions that a lot of people may be going through. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, that's cool. But like when we're talking about we compare like this is the thing, man. We compare people based on how good they are. That's just what we debate about. Like we we we compare people based on is this nigga better than him or is he as good as him. You I'm saying? Unfortunately, people get wrapped up into shit like you just said with Big Sean. But I feel like with Cuddy, I feel like he's good, but I feel like a lot of shit that
Starting point is 00:32:24 the way that they perceive him to be, like, to me, it's just not the same for me. And it just might be, I'm not. You miss the curve. Sometimes you just miss the feeling that somebody get, like, how people love Travis Scott and the whole rodeo thing, I missed it. Like, I don't get it. People be like, you don't understand. Like, I caught on to Kit Cuddy, which is why I said in recent years, maybe,
Starting point is 00:32:45 I would feel like you, but prior, like, when I was in high school and shit, that was everything. And I wasn't a... See, I wasn't... What, what... Buffalo. I was just, I wasn't an emo kid, but I felt it. I fucked with him. But now, in recent, it's kind of like how I said earlier with Wayne, like, Wayne drop.
Starting point is 00:33:02 It's like, all right, like, okay. Like, I understand what he built, but, like, when Cuddy dropped his first album, I was, like, 26. You know what I'm saying? When he dropped his first album, like, it was great. that album, his first album is great. I'm just talking about like everything post that is not, and I'm not just saying it have to be that in order for him to be good.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I'm just saying like the way that people be praising him is like this God of whatever. Who would you prepare him to? Because he's not like, I don't consider him even though he's in that time frame. I don't consider his competitions like Cole Drake, Sean and them.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I don't even. I mean, that's the thing. I don't think you compare a cutty to nobody. Like I understand what Wayne saying, but I don't think people look at Cuddy and hold him in that high regard because of his skill set. I really think it's because of what he talks
Starting point is 00:33:56 about, what's the content of his music, and the way he makes people feel. You know what I mean? Like when somebody gives you that soundtrack to whatever it is you may be going through, man, you love them in a different way. Like, Mary J. Blige Blige is not the greatest singer in the world, but man, she provided the
Starting point is 00:34:12 soundtrack for heartbreak. That's a fact. That's a fact. I did. I was riding a man on the moon too and I've been kind of depressed the past couple days too so when I was listening to the man on the moon today
Starting point is 00:34:24 I was loving it that beautiful trip the shit tequila shots I'm a tequila drinker I had some tequila last night the city got on there called damaged
Starting point is 00:34:32 I like I like the vibe of it because that makes a difference too that makes one harder that makes a difference I was sober I was over so all right around this time
Starting point is 00:34:45 when Cuddy dropped his first album them. I was totally against that whole, like, I didn't understand traumas and depression. I didn't understand that shit. It's like, you'd be depressing. I come from the era of you depressed. Nigger, get over that shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's, we all do. Yeah. Right? So, like, I was kind of against a lot of that moping, sad shit. So, a lot of the music doesn't affect me the same way. Now, even I've been depressing, like, the shit I'd be depressed over, I'm going to listen to Jeezy before I listen to the car. GZZEZ has gotten me to some tough times.
Starting point is 00:35:16 You feel to me like, geez, you got, my man, my man is in the feds and I'm doing whatever I can to put a couple dollars on his books. That's, that's my depression, how I've dealt with it. So I get where Cutty comes from, but how it's delivered for me is not the same effect. You know, I'm actually not mad at that statement at all. You know, there's different types of ways that people want to go about handling things. I feel like, you know, Shalman is very evolved, you know, when it comes to, like, spirituality and things like that. So you don't mind putting on a cutty. connecting. Whereas I feel like the average black man is going to do the same thing. He's going to put on
Starting point is 00:35:52 G-H's going to put on video. They're going to put on, you know, something that they can relate to. Not everybody can relate to. No, listen, I fuck with all of that. Like, I do it the same way. But sometimes you want somebody to tap into your exact emotions. Like when Kid Cuddy's rapping about, you know, I feel like I'm trapped in my head right now. Like, that is exactly the emotion that you may be going through. He taps into that. Like dives into it. It's like more of a facing it where other artists is more of a just making you feel better.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Like keep it pushing. But I mean, I do think that, um, I think Cuddy is one of those people who don't get his, his, his, his, his flowers the way he should. I think he does from the general public. No, no, no, he does the general, he does from the general public. They love him. Like, I got, I mean in the game, like in media and all that shit? In the media. Like, like, like, they.
Starting point is 00:36:46 He should be on that three-headed monster, right? When you talk about Cole, I mean, he was. But you got to remember, like, so when we talk about Cole, Kendrick, and Drake, think about the consistency and in their runs. I think that's, you know. Huh?
Starting point is 00:37:01 Just saying. Uh-huh. You said who? Cuddy. Sean. Tiana. But yeah, but remember Cuddy at that time, too, he also was very vocal about his problems
Starting point is 00:37:15 that he was facing with drugs and all of that. while he wasn't so as so focused on on music and just depression. So I ain't knocking him at all. I think that the niggas one of the most talented dudes to ever do it. But at the same time, I think that it goes into the run you have.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Because end of the day, bro, niggas just want music. You know, now we start getting into people's lives and all that, but we really just want the music. So it's like when we say, all right, he did this one and it's spaced out in between there, then he does another one.
Starting point is 00:37:43 A three high album every 10 year average. You know what I'm saying? I'm with you. That's why I give Kendrick all the props in the world because Kendrick don't give a fuck what y'all talking about. Kendrick don't give a fuck. Kendrick ain't one of these guys
Starting point is 00:37:55 that's giving y'all songs every week. He's not trying to be in the news. He don't got his publicist working overtime, the leaked stories. None of that. Kendrick is giving you all these albums and that's it. But every time he dropped,
Starting point is 00:38:06 he never dropped something that make niggas say, oh, nah, I ain't like. To me, Kendrick, every album that he's dropped has done something. Like, you remember that time. Every time that he's put out of album, remember exactly where you were, where you heard it, how it was affecting people at the shows, how it was infected in the media, like, every time.
Starting point is 00:38:24 He's four for four if you asked me. He's four for four, and the Pimper Butterfly is the second best album of the last decade. And the first was my beautiful dark twisted fantasy about Kanye. You said to, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold, hold, hold, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, is the second best album of the decade? The last decade, from 2010 to 2020, a hundred percent. 100%. The second best album of the last decade. I'm not giving that.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I'm not giving that. It is incredible. And when people go back now and listen to it, like, he literally re-sparked. Because you know, Wayne, you're not as old as me, but you come from that era. You remember when there was socially conscious black music, right? Like fight the power by public enemy, all that type of stuff like that. Kendrick bought that back into the main. scream, I think. I think Kendrick and I think
Starting point is 00:39:18 a few songs off Watch the Throne Up. I feel like the thing is, I just feel like Damn, Damn has a more of a, how can I say? I feel like Damn delivers it a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Like, everything that you just said, he just delivers it a different way than to Bimper Butterfly. I feel like when he did to Pimp a Butterfly, a lot of people was already for it. That's why it's not received as how you said it. But when you go to Dam and you look at like how he did the Grammys, like the performance he did at the Grammys,
Starting point is 00:39:50 all that shit, the shit he's talking about. I was just listening to the damn never day. I'm like, damn, no pun intended. No pun intended, but like, everything he said is still relevant today, even though it's a four-year-old fucking album. That's how purple butterfly is. I know, it's just, damn just sounds better to me.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Damn sonically is just better. Yeah. Listen, right now, today, we're going to be all right, could be the song of the year. Absolutely. Because we gotta have optimism, right? Every time some bullshit happens,
Starting point is 00:40:25 every time some bullshit happens, we're gonna be our right, we'll try. A hundred percent, because that was a black anthem, which we didn't get a lot of this year, by the way, but you thought we would have based off the year that we just had. Hey, Shalame, don't sleep on a bigger picture
Starting point is 00:40:39 by a little baby, man. No, bigger picture was crazy. And, you know, I got to mention this. since we're talking about black anthems. I was as a Cole fan, no Cole, one of my favorites ever in life to do it. Don't do it, no, it was so disappointed. I can't lie.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I was so, I love J-Coh. I went to St. John's because of J-Coh. I love J-Cole, but songs he dropped this year all disappointed me in the little response he did with no name, even more disappointment. Then I was even more disappointed in no-name's response because it's like, why would you dis-J-Col, why would you just take the opportunity
Starting point is 00:41:12 to make yourself look good and show off your skills? your skill set and educate the people because that's what you was complaining about them not educated. Yeah, I'm not mad at Koto. I get what you're saying as a, as a, he's just a fan of his music. The reason I'm not mad at him is because he's a man at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And this has been a difficult year for a lot of people. And I think it's so easy. You just put in an ID post like, yo. But I'm hyped thinking it's about to be something to get me through it, like a high for hours. Like, I remember when Trump won presidency, I'm feeling disappointed as shit. I'm like, oh, God, whatever. Oh, cold dropped. Damn, made us make me feel better.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And it did. It gave me inside. It's like, you know what? Change it comes. You know, he left. No, I ain't going to lie. Now, I feel you because remember when he did the David Letterman? When he did be free on David Letterman, like, I ain't on front.
Starting point is 00:42:10 That shit, I think it brought a tear out of everybody. I think that's the unfair expectation. that artists have sometimes, though. Because, like, Cole might have just, he might have been in the crib with the PS5 early and just wanted to chill. And not say shit. He might be depressed like the rest of us.
Starting point is 00:42:26 You're probably dealing with anxiety like the rest of us. I don't feel like fucking working. I don't feel like being the voice right now. No, but the funny thing of all this is like, when Baby made bigger picture, it was so many people that was going crazy on Cole and Kendrick, like, y'all let this nigga do with y'all. Y'all didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Like, they was wild. And I feel like it's just a little bit of fear because while, you know, they did make, they make songs about the black plight and our struggle and everything we've gone through every time. And when the bat signal goes up and they don't want to put that suit on every time. And that's a fact. And also to what you're saying, Wayno, and I want everybody to think about this going into 2021.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Because I already see a lot of y'all setting yourself up for failure. Approach 2021 with no expectations. Don't have any expectations. Don't have any expectations in people. Don't have any expectations in the world. Don't have any expectations for society. Just show up every day and be the best you. Do the best you can.
Starting point is 00:43:24 If you go into 2021 with that, 2020 one is going to be my year. 2021 is going to be the best year ever. 2021 is going to be better than 2020. You're going to be fucking disappointed. Oh, no expectations. Don't have no way. Why do we have five of people?
Starting point is 00:43:41 It's good to manifest, you know. It is. No, man, once again, let's go back to what I was talking about with the list. Don't cast these general broad statements, right, about the year. Just say, this is going to be my best year. Well, Charlotte, come on, man. Like, you got to think about this shit, right? Think about the year as, like, and for a lot of people, they be fucking crapping out.
Starting point is 00:44:03 You know what I'm saying? Like, it might crap out. They might, oh, shit. This is the year when I hit. Like, this is going to be the year when I hit. I'm not mad at people having, like, you know, I want to say not having expectations. because I want people to have a little bit of expectation. It's just that this is the year of unpredictableity of word.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Like this is the year of that. Like, you know what I mean, right? This was the year that like for everything we thought it was, it fucking wasn't. On like damn near every single level, on every level. And I agree with you, but I still want people to be a little bit hopeful, but just put some little bit of action behind your hope. But the action goes into you. The only thing you can control is you.
Starting point is 00:44:46 You can't even control your circumstances. You can't even control your circumstances. Every year. What you say, Naila? But that's my point. So don't put any unrealistic expectations on the year. So no more on that no more? No, no, you can do that.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Nile, you know the meme that everybody, or the ladies be used with the girls stepping with the back? They can't use that no more. No, you can do New Year, New Me, because you're in. control of you. So if you want to lose weight, if you want to get smarter, if you want to, you know, start focusing on your mental health, whatever it is, you can make those changes. Everything else you have no control of so don't have any fucking expectation for it. And I think
Starting point is 00:45:26 that's the problem that we have as a society now. We have narratives about people and we have this narrative causes that has expectations that just aren't, that just aren't realistic for everybody. Like, my fuck is really mad at Kendrick. Kendrick should be at the protest. Why? Why? Why? Don't volunteer my services. Anyway. His songs are playing and guess what?
Starting point is 00:45:49 I want Kendrick in the studio working on the songs for the next protest. Because ain't none of this shit going nowhere. It's going to be more black people that get killed by police. It's going to be, so he's going to, we're going to need those soundtracks. I want Kendrick in the studio. I ain't a lot, Charlemagne. If there's never any other artists that I ever felt more hopeful about, like, I'd be, like, I go through shit and I'd be like, I'll be like, Kendrick, please say something.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Like, I ain't going for it. I really be in the crib, like, like, damn, I wish I could just hear with this nigga things right now. So, like, when it comes to his music, that's one person that I'm, I don't exactly need him to jump in on everything that's going on, but I need something from him. Because that nigga is,
Starting point is 00:46:27 he had four years, man. You know why you feel that way? Because he's thoughtful. Yeah, that's a fact. Because he actually takes the time to craft soundtracks for whatever it is that we're going through. So when somebody's that thoughtful, you got to give them time to think.
Starting point is 00:46:44 They can't think if you're telling them that they need to be front-line at the goddamn protest, okay? And recording. That's all right. I mean, no, they were saying that.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah, they were saying that. But he did, he popped up at a few journeys. But salute to everybody who did put themselves on the line for doing that, like being at the protest, because the mischiefs was irregular.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Like, the juniors this year was irregular. There was a mixture of so many people where, like, you might be protesting. But here comes this idiot that's about to pop off some violence, you know what I mean, just to do it. To the police, though. They're going to the police trying to, like, get them round up.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Yeah, I'd expect nothing to my turn. That's, yeah, nah. They was like, suck my dick, police, suck my dick. Yeah, it is. It was, keep walking. It's okay. But, um, yeah, I mean. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Go ahead. I was going to change the subject. Oh, I was going to say, are you looking forward to Drake's new project? No. I forgot about you. Wait. Why not? For all the same reasons that we're, for all the same reasons we love Kendrick.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Kendrick makes us wait. Kendrick gives us something to look forward to. Kendrick, you know, takes his time. So if he won't have dropped dark lanes, you would be interested in this lover boy tape? I just don't know what, what, Drake has given us so much music that I don't know if he has another gear. You know what I'm saying? Like we know Kendrick has another gear. He shows us that with every project.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Drake has given us so much. I don't know if he has another gear, so therefore I'm not looking forward to anything. I'm looking forward to it. I just don't know. That's the thing I'm going into with no expectation. Because I feel like certified lover boy knowing Drake, it makes you think like,
Starting point is 00:48:35 oh, this nigga's coming on some crooning sweet shit, the whole album. And I don't expect that from him. I also don't expect him to be making, like introspective shit. I just, I'm really looking for him to just rap. I don't know if he has another gear, but I'm just really looking for him to rap.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I think that he's his best when he just could fucking rap. When he does them 4 a.m., wherever the fuck he's at, when he does that, like, if he could keep that space for 10 songs, and I don't think that that puts him in a different conversation enough, and that's just from a fan of Drake, that's what I want from. Let me ask you a question. Are we still in the Drake era? Are is radio,
Starting point is 00:49:11 such such such such such such such such a prehistoric form of medium is radio such a prehistoric form of media that it hasn't changed the temperature to what's actually going on out here in these streets we're in the little baby era but i really really still love drink the same but they still really really love the megos because though i think i'm over i don't know if it's because i i hear a lot of time because of the I'm in, but, um, what, what, what feeling are you in, Naila? Radio. Exactly. That's what I mean when I say radio and I, listen, I'm a, I'm a radio. I'm just saying, I'm a radio guy, Naila's a radio girl. All I'm simply saying is
Starting point is 00:49:57 radio and we have these conversations all the time. They haven't caught up to what's actually going on in the screech yet. So they still haven't turned, they haven't changed the temperature. So it still feels like we're in a Drake era. I don't think we're in a Drake era. I don't think we're in a Drake Air? I don't think we've been in the Drake Air for the past two years. And that's why I was going to ask like y'all said earlier, like the list, uh, Wayno, I think you said like, nah, shouldn't even be on there. It's like, are we going to get to the point where like the drakes, the mix of cold, they shouldn't even be on there. And we focus on, you know, the new class, the little babies, the, um, little dirt, like you were saying. I think, I think now is just a
Starting point is 00:50:33 little bit harder for like the, like before I feel like the radio is we're really complimented young up and come an artist. So it's like, you know, now I feel like once an artist gets to a certain place they don't kind of put like NBA young boy should be on the radio. I mean like NBA young. 100% and I'm talking about like his shit should be in rotation. You know what I mean? 100%.
Starting point is 00:50:56 His shit should be in rotation. Like I mean, little baby he has like I mean he's reached a new peak. You know what I mean? I think that these artists have forced radio to jump into what they're doing. And by the time radio gets it's kind of late. That's why like DSPs is such a big thing. The kids are not, the kids are dictating what they want to hear.
Starting point is 00:51:15 I mean, the DSP still kind of dictate with the playlist, but like the kids can go say, nah, I'm not listening to that. I'm going to put this on. Like, for me, I grew up,
Starting point is 00:51:23 I had to wait. So, like, I had to wait all day to hear some of my favorite songs listening to the radio. Now kids can just say, this is what I want to hear
Starting point is 00:51:30 at that time. And I feel like the radio needs to follow a little bit with the DSPs do because that's how you stay current. Not a little bit a lot. Every week, every week new song should be put in the rotation. That's a fact. Like literally every week. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Probably every few days at this point. Literally every week. Like you said, there's so much new music to come out. And then music get hot on different platforms now. Like a song could be viral on TikTok. The song could be viral on Twitter. A song could be viral on Instagram. Then you got what's actually hot in the club.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Then you got by regions like what's hot in Chicago, what's hot in Atlanta. It's so much. It's so many pockets that it'll be. hard do that. So I think we would just have to figure out how to, I don't know. Oh, Naila, it should be easier than ever nowadays. The reason it should be easier than ever is because we have actual numbers. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:23 You have analytics. You can look at a record and say, oh, shit, this shit is getting listened to in 82 countries. Like kids ain't in your car listening to those kids who like that stuff on TikTok. They're not driving. They're not listening to the radio. Well, well, I mean, not that they listen in the radio, but I think. think that like, see, this thing. In business.
Starting point is 00:52:42 You really want to hear what your kids think is hot. Do you really want to hear baby shark. Like that shit. No, but see, that's one aspect of it. I think that like, for kids, now, kids dictate what business is geared to. Like, the kids always dictate what the next thing to come. And I feel like, you know, in seats in radio and even I'm in the music industry,
Starting point is 00:53:03 in executive seats, there needs to be a more transparency with younger people. You know what I'm saying? Like, when I look at, when I, when I, I look back and I see like how Irv Gotti when he had Murder Inc or Dame Dash when he had Rockefeller or DNY when they had rough riders, they were young guys in the game. I feel like there's not enough people champion or they, people feel like you got to reach this certain level for them to not get out their seat, but put you in a seat under them. There's too much like there's not enough mentorship.
Starting point is 00:53:32 There's not enough bringing up. You know what I mean? Like for me, I'm about to be 38 years old next week. And I've, in my career, I've always had people who've brung me up. Like, I've known Charlemagne shit 10 years now. Like, he brought me up before we, it was a brilliant idiotist. I did a year-end wrap up on Kyle 105 with him. And I was a young, I didn't know shit about media.
Starting point is 00:53:53 He just was like, yo, come do this with me. 10 years later, I'm a person in the media. So if I don't get that experience at that, when I'm 28, I might not be in a seat I'm at 38. You know what I'm saying? So I think it needs to be just a little bit more, you know, while I climb the ladder, I'm bringing you up with. So my question, I guess,
Starting point is 00:54:10 would be like, where were they, where are the as they bringing us up? Because there's only so much room, where are they going to go? No, it's mad. It's wild bread. It's what, niggas don't want to come up off that bread. It's mad bread. You got to start making well, my fault is Charlotte. I got something
Starting point is 00:54:27 I want to add to that. But that. I just want to, I just think like, you know, there's all of these seats, right, or all of these positions that were made 50, years ago. And it's still the same seats and it still is, you got to start making new positions. You got to start coming up with shit. Because Nyla, I met you coming up, going to the radio station, right? I knew that you DJ, but not only are you DJ, you curate your own playlist. You know what I'm saying? Like, you do interviews. Are you just a DJ? No, you're not just a
Starting point is 00:54:55 DJ. You know what I'm saying? Like, for me, I do media, but I'm also a music executive at a at a major label. There's not one name for that. Like, it's just too different. Now, we got to start come up with new shit. We got to start cleaning up with this shit? I'm like, yeah, breakfast stuff not going nowhere, Angie not going nowhere, Klu not going nowhere. All right, let me think. Nobody's using their Instagram.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Hey, do you mind if I every Wednesday I do an interview on your Instagram live? Okay, cool. And that's how I got out. So definitely got to create your own job. But I guess I'm saying as far as like I think what you're saying about the mentorship thing is right. I think I've been blessed in it because I got people like Charlotte like Angie like Dia. but a lot of people don't even have that access to even get through the door.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah, I mean, it's so, I mean, everything y'all saying is absolutely correct, right? Because I'm a person that believes there are no gatekeepers anymore because there are no gates, right? But there are still gatekeepers, you know what I mean? But the problem with the gatekeepers is the gatekeepers aren't letting the right people in
Starting point is 00:56:00 because the gatekeepers don't even know what the qualifications are to be inside. You know what I'm saying? The gatekeepers are still using. using old blueprints and they're still using old metrics. So when these new people come in that should absolutely be on the inside and absolutely be the new gatekeeper standing there right alongside of you, you're still looking down on them because of your old perception.
Starting point is 00:56:21 But also, yes, yes, but then there's also a lot of new gatekeepers that ain't even valid in any way is out here. Just. But how do you get valid now? You don't get valid until you get the experience. What makes you valid? Like I'm the type of person I validate every
Starting point is 00:56:38 I feel like everybody's opinion is valid if it's a good opinion Like I'm just listening to what somebody says When I hear Waino Waino is just as sharp Now as he was 10 years ago When I heard him He should change
Starting point is 00:56:50 That's why I'm like yo damn Waino let's go let's go talk shop Let's go talk shop Right about this You know what I mean So it's just like you have to hear people Like I what validates you Other than having strong opinions
Starting point is 00:57:01 Well I think you know Another thing is is like, for me, being in a space I'm in the space that you're in, is being able to see shit in people that they might not see in themselves. You know, um, like, I feel like that's another thing when it comes to this generation. This generation is the, I ain't doing it. If I ain't getting paid, I'm not pulling up. I'm not doing that shit.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I don't need this job. I could go do something else. And the thing is, I feel like there's, this, people want to skip the grind too much. I feel like there's too many people that really want to skip the ground. You know what I mean? Like the grind, I tweeted this one day. I said, like, you can't skip the grind. If you do, eventually you have to start over.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And so many people took the wrong thing from it. Oh, it's nothing wrong with starting over. I'm not saying it's nothing wrong with starting over. I'm saying that like if you try to skip the grind and you think you're going to go into this space, you're eventually going to have to go through the process of what it takes to get in that space. Now, I also don't think that getting into these spaces should be as difficult as it is. I feel like, you know, a lot of people got to get over their egos and try to not hold people
Starting point is 00:58:01 in a certain space to say, well, oh, Nila, I mean, yeah, you've been doing this shit for two years, but it took me 10, so it's going to have to take you 10 for me. No, if you're good and you're, and you're, like Charlamy said, if you're sharp and you understand, you should have a seat. Why not? Well, I'll say this when it comes to the whole valid thing. Valid isn't saying, like, having an opinion, just having a strong opinion makes you valid, but everybody, everybody has a strong opinion on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Everybody has a strong opinion on you. Everybody is saying something and everybody so. shit is strong. So that's why it's like valid to me. It's just actually knowing your shit. You know what I mean? So many people are just based on the top and all types of other just extra things when really at the core of it, you know, it's about the music. Right. Yes. If you hear somebody and you can tell that person knows what they're talking about, to me, that's that person's opinion is valid. I get, now that is absolutely right. Everybody got a strong opinion. That don't make it valid. But if you absolutely know what you're talking about,
Starting point is 00:59:01 And even if I don't agree with you, but your POV is sharp and it's informed and you're standing on what you're saying and it's making me think, I'm like, because there's people who are not bullshit and people be eating the bullshit like that shit cake. That's why I just...
Starting point is 00:59:18 No, everybody, you know, everybody's immediate, yo, everybody, that was the gift and the curse of me ending up on a platform because it was like when I got there, I never viewed myself as being there, but like everybody felt like I was in that, A lot of people that have been doing this shit for years felt like I was invalid and I didn't deserve to be in a certain position. But like they'll come up with the most outrageous reasons why they should be in the seat.
Starting point is 00:59:43 And I just think that like getting in the certain spaces, of course has something to do with being valid. But also how you position yourself. A lot of people don't think about that. Like positioning yourself. You know what I mean? If you're able to get in the rooms, getting around the right people and presenting something. That's another thing. Everybody, a lot of people want to do shit
Starting point is 01:00:02 but don't got nothing to present. They just feel like, yo, I got an opinion. You know what I mean? Like, you should have me on there. All right. Right. Well, that's our fault, though. That's our fault because we make this shit look easy.
Starting point is 01:00:16 You know what I'm saying? And people are like, you talk about the process. That's why shameless plug, my first book, Black Privilege. I got a chapter called Put the Weed in the bag because it goes back the belly when them two kids were sitting there with Nize and DMX. They were like, we want to go out there and get money. And X was like, no, motherfucker. Put the weed in the bag.
Starting point is 01:00:30 first. People always want to skip the process. But they don't know Waino used to manage artists. They don't know Waino used to intern at Rockefeller. You know what I'm saying? They don't know Naila used to intern at Power 105. They don't know Naila used to be Angie's assistant. They think that y'all just came out of nowhere. And now y'all got these positions and y'all get the motherfucking talk and, you know, people care about what y'all say. No, y'all earn that. Right. Y'all earn that by the work y'all was putting in. And it also, to Waino, to your point, about ego, man. Yes, there is so many people who have been sitting in these seats for so long whose ego simply won't allow him to say, I don't know. I salute my man Sean Peckers all the time,
Starting point is 01:01:13 man, and the reason I salute Sean Peckers is because Sean Peckers said something years ago when he left Def Jam, and that shit still rings true to me to this day. Sean Pecker said they were all in the conference room and they were debating about what logic was going to do on his first week. Logic's first album. And everybody had these mad low numbers. Like, you know what I mean? Like, oh, he's going to do $10,000, $15,000, whatever, whatever. He said, when Logic came back and did, I don't know, a couple hundred thousand
Starting point is 01:01:40 in the first week, he was like, it's time for me to step away. Because I just don't know how to age this shit. And that to me was, I salute him on that. Right. I don't necessarily know. I don't necessarily think he should have walked away because he has such expertise. But that's when you bring it in the people around you. and as y'all said, create positions for them, right?
Starting point is 01:02:03 To keep you sharp. Absolutely. Simple as that. Simple as that. Like, I don't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't necessarily say he should have walked away, but just the fact that he had the wherewithal because so many people can't be honest with themselves about that shit. Well, just simply say, man, I don't fucking know.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Well, I mean, his walk away was irregular. That nigga walked away into Ragnation Sports and started bringing in Lonzo balls and lamello balls and all these other people. So he, you know, it might have been bad. best for him to walk away and the pivot in the sports, but I definitely get what you're saying. That's all I'm saying. It's just like, you got to let go of your ego and just know when you don't know anymore.
Starting point is 01:02:37 And I think there's so many people in these positions of power in various industries. Radio, the record industry, they just don't know and they're afraid to say they don't know. Yeah. Because that shit is different. Yo, it's different when you got to go through your regular midlife crisis as a human. And you got to go through a midlife crisis in this motherfucking industry. You know what I mean? Like that shit will drive.
Starting point is 01:02:58 That shit will make you fucking go crazy. But you know, I think the way people stop knowing is because they get away from younger people. That's the thing. It's like what I was, yo, when I was at Rockefeller, I was the young kid that like, I could remember any, I could remember damn there any and everybody's verse. So people be like, yo, who said this or who used this be for that? So they kept me around for shit. And I feel like when I was younger, I kept the older guys young. Like they was into the new slang.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Now, shit, me, my son be saying shit, I'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, you know what I mean? Like certain slang of words, but I stay around like younger people just to learn. But I think the biggest problem is that people, my age or old or even a little bit younger than me, feel like once you reach a certain place, you can't no longer learn from the youth. I think the youth, I mean, man, fucking who said it? I believe the children in the future, teach him well and let them lead the way. Like, that's a real ass fucking line. Whitney Houston, nigger?
Starting point is 01:03:58 Hell you mean who said it? I couldn't think too fast. But would he used to say that? But now that's some real shit, though. If I'm going to defer to Naila to learn about what's going on because she's at the shit that I ain't at as far as music. And it might be some knowledge I might have up here. But if we start sharing, then we're good.
Starting point is 01:04:19 But if I'm like, if I have this ego where I'm like, now I can't talk, man, this motherfucker's 20-some years old. What the fuck do they know? You know what I'm saying? I feel like that's the game. The game is full, the game when it comes to the money and the positions is full of a bunch of people sitting and see it's like, these young niggas don't know nothing until they do. And then all you try to do is hire them so that you can control them. And that's why the young niggas don't respect you.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Exactly. That's why that's why, that's why, you know, your source of anxiety as an older person, the reason you feel inadequate is because you know you've been shitting on these young people. Right. You know they don't respect. You know you don't respect them. So now that they're giving you back with. you put out, you feel all insecure and shit. No, motherfucker, you should have embraced them from the start.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I was telling Naila this shit the other day. I love music. I love hip hop, but I can't keep up with all this shit. It's impossible. I'm a fucking husband. I got three kids. I got companies to run. I got all types of shit going on personally and professionally.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I can't keep up with it. So how do I cut through the noise? Naila, what's hot? What should I be listening to? Right. You know what I mean? Wayno, what you're fucking with? Right.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Or if it's people that I respect, if I see them post some shit, shit, I'm gonna go listen. That's how I discover new shit. Cut through the noise. That's how I discover new shit. Cut through the motherfucking noise. Let's take a break and come back. I want to talk about a couple more things before
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Starting point is 01:08:55 to him on that and everybody christmas is tomorrow go out there and pre-order tamika mallory's state of emergency uh her book will be out on may 11th 2021 but it's available for pre-order right now wherever you buy books amazon barns and nobles go support our good sister it it me think about what y'all was saying earlier about the artists who were on who are supposed who y'all thought was supposed to be on the front lines this year they weren't but people like tamika mallory was because she's always been throughout her whole life but it's like she's become a star now you know what i mean she's getting mentioned in beyond state records and all of these different artists want to put her on her albums i think she was on ti's album this year and jizi's
Starting point is 01:09:41 album. So it's just like, you know, salute to, salute to Tameka for doing the work. I don't need Kendrick Lamar to be on the front lines when we have people who actually do that work. And people who actually do that work, I think they should be rewarded just like the fucking rappers. Right. You know
Starting point is 01:09:58 what I mean? They should be celebrated just like the motherfuckering. She's definitely getting her flowers in the well-deserved. She definitely is. Different types of music penetrates differently. That's all I'm saying. But we do need those voices to represent us and speak. Absolutely. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Now, I want to talk to y'all about what everybody thought was going to happen on. Again, our superpowers. Mine's came. Oh, look. Listen, I love black people. You know what I'm saying? I love us. And I love that we're so optimistic.
Starting point is 01:10:33 And I love that, you know, we're always looking for ways to get out of bad situations. Have things gotten so bad for black people that now we're hoping for superpowers? No, shit, been that bad. It's been that bad, though. Yeah, we always, we always wish it all the fucking star, duh. Wishing on a fucking star, man. It's a fake look forward to, honestly. No, it's like, no, remember in like 2012 in like May,
Starting point is 01:10:58 I remember people were saying that the world was going to end. And it was all these people that was doing all this shit, like, yo, the rap shit's coming this day. I just wish that, like, because the thing about it is that when shit like that happens, we become a part of the conversation, and we will make that conversation go, right? that conversation will go and we train, trend,
Starting point is 01:11:17 we can do whatever with it. I just wish that we would do it for other shit. You know what I'm saying? Just for other shit. That's all. Do it for shit that actually matters. Listen, I'm not, at first, I was looking at it. I'm like, okay, that's a funny joke.
Starting point is 01:11:30 You know, the great conjunction is happening, whatever, whatever. I get it, you know what I mean? But then I'm starting to look like, wait a minute, man, this motherfucker's really looking forward to this shit. You know what I mean? We got to stop doing this to people.
Starting point is 01:11:41 That shit is traumatizing. Do you know how traumatizing shit like Christmas is for poor people. That's what we did with this superpower shit. My fucker was really looking forward to the shit. I saw it. Man, I'm telling you. Can I say something about it?
Starting point is 01:11:57 Oh, God. No. Oh, God. Your superpower was interrupted. Go ahead, Taylor. Why can it be looked at as another type of power? Like, why does it have to be about getting invisible or something like that? Like, why can it be like embracing your, like, new mental,
Starting point is 01:12:14 health or I don't know like why can't that because it because it wasn't rooted in that it wasn't rooted in that that's why I'm gonna just have a positive mindset that day that I know the universe is on my side like no listen that's that's a consolation prize people just would have been like oh I ain't get it so let me feel better about it I feel like the thing is because I started I seen some shit that that NLE chopper said and all I oh yo all I wrote in in say cheese comments was Where does he get his information from? And people was like, what? You fucking idiot.
Starting point is 01:12:46 It's in all of the books. It's in the Bible and this and the third. And I'm like, yo, dog, I think that people got to start interpreting things as more metaphorical and literal. Because if we believe everything that was literal, then we would already be living in a superhero world based on the shit that people said years ago. I just think a lot of people had great imaginations and were good at writing and making some shit up to say, this is how you interpret it. Don't take this shit as literal because every time. time something like this happens, people out there like, damn, it's people that really thought they were going to your superpowers.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I promise. Yes. To the knowledge point, to the knowledge point, you don't need Jupiter to twerk on Saturn or whatever the fuck it was in order to feel like you can change your mindset. They said, right. You can do that. You can do that anything. I'm just saying, like, you could just switch it around for December 21st.
Starting point is 01:13:37 That's all. I don't really think anybody was out there really looking for some powers, but I don't. No, they were. They were. Listen, yo. Niggas is looking for anything. If people are out here looking for Kendrick Lamar to be Martin Luther King,
Starting point is 01:13:48 you damn sure believe that they're looking for superpowers. For real. I bet you if I search right now, I bet you if we do a quick Google search, we will find somebody who actually died trying to jump off a roof thinking that they could fucking fly on December 21st. That's a fact.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Guaranteed. That's a fact. Listen, all I'm simply saying is you don't need things like the great conjunction to believe that you have some extraordinary ability to change your circumstance. I promise you you can change your circumstance with just your thoughts. We ain't even tapped into our regular human powers yet. Our God-given powers, but y'all are looking for superpowers.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Yeah, we don't. Fuck on. What's the portion of our brain that's not used? We've got the, like, a lot of it. It's a lot of it that's not used, right? It's like, what's the percentage? It's a crazy percentage that you be like, If I can figure out how to use all of that.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Yeah, I want to say it's 75, but I'm not sure. I know it's something crazy that you think like, damn, we don't use that much of our brain. Yeah, I don't know how much it is, but all I'm simply saying is we can tap into our own abilities. And I want everybody to feel like that going into 2021. I don't want nobody to feel disappointed because they didn't get so-called superpowers on December 21st. You already powered the fuck up, all right? All right. All you got to do is start making better choices. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:15:14 You start making better choices in your life. You will access all the goddamn superpowers you want. You know, a lot of the environment plays a key in how you feel and feeling empowered. So if you're around a lot of shit that doesn't make you feel empowered, people ain't going to believe that they have those same superpower. Well, let me give you a superpower. If you can't change the way, if you can't change your circumstances, change the way you look at them.
Starting point is 01:15:41 You know what I mean? Change your perspective on them. Ain't none of us from great situations. Wayno grew up in the hood in Harlem. I grew up on a dirt road in Monson, South Carolina, and a single wide trailer. The only thing that allowed me to even dream my current reality is simply my mindset.
Starting point is 01:16:01 And that's the ultimate thing you can plan in a person. Fuck telling them they're going to get superpowers on the December 21st. Plant that seed in them to tell them like, yo, you can transcend this circumstance. That's the fact, but a lot of people don't even want, like, that's the difficult thing. It's trying to plant the seed in people who don't have the right soil. You know what I'm?
Starting point is 01:16:19 It's a lot of times because I have this conversation with a lot of like, like, I'm out the hood, but I'm not far removed. So it's like a lot of different people come to me for advice and certain shit. And you be telling a person's shit and they could tell you their circumstances, whatever the case may be and you can give them like the guidelines on certain shit. And at the day, a lot of the niggas just want you to just give them a book bag full of money. You know what I mean? Like that, they want you to just hit the lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:16:43 of them. And trying to change somebody's mindset is a very difficult task, you know, it's a very, very difficult task. But I promise you when you change the, when you change the way you look at things, the things you look at will change. I promise you that. You know what I mean? Like, I promise you. Like, I love being from where I'm from because being where I'm from put things inside of me that made me be able to see the world from a different, from a different view than others. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes when you see the world, only, you know, through the lens of privilege or you see the world you know only through a lens of
Starting point is 01:17:17 riches and finance you miss all of the other little small details that really make this shit go yeah you know what I mean when you come from where we come from like you focus a lot on more of the the micro than the macro you know what I mean so so so so that's
Starting point is 01:17:35 that's all I would encourage people to do man because I don't want nobody to be disappointed as so many kids are going to be tomorrow when Christmas comes You know what I mean? I think telling motherfuckers that Santa Claus is real, it's criminal. And I think people should be arrested for lying the generations of kids about Santa Claus. Yo, I told my daughter, like, my youngest daughter is eight.
Starting point is 01:17:58 And I told it to my son-in-law and daughter, too. I was like, yo, listen, I don't want y'all to think that there's white people out here giving you free shit. You know what I mean? Because that's the whole concept of Christmas. It's like, you know, I remember when I found out it wasn't no Santa Claus, I was fucking hurt. Because my mom would, she would leave the, I was, first of all, I didn't have a chimney. So you know all the Alvin and the chipmong shit you're watching. You're thinking, I just like, my mom was like, he climb up the fire escape.
Starting point is 01:18:23 That's what I'm like saying. Like, he climbed up the fire escape. Wow. She would bite the cookie. I mean, she would go all out. And then as I got older, like, as I got older, I'm just like, yo, I don't want my kids believing that it's this white thing coming to the hood that's giving, giving you shit just for performing well. Because you can perform well for a lot and shit is not going to go your way.
Starting point is 01:18:41 And I feel like subconscious. I was about to say subconsciously, not that you're going to believe in Santa Claus, but you start to take on some of them traits when you're growing up thinking that just because you're doing what you're supposed to do, that things will always just be fair. And that's not the case. And you imagine what that does of your fucking self-esteem. You're a little kid, and they tell you all you got to do is make this list. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:19:04 You're going to get everything you want on Christmas. What if the shit that you really want ain't even about no toys? You just want your parents to be able to pay the rent. You didn't have been evicted two, three times as a child. You just want your parents to be able to pay the motherfucking rent. So you're writing out this list. You turn it into Santa Claus. And then somebody tells you, oh, well, you didn't get what you want because you weren't nice.
Starting point is 01:19:24 You didn't. Imagine what that does to your self-esteem. Yo, I like, you, I never believed in Santa. So I don't really know. You shouldn't? My mom told me that it was Santa, but then it would be like her handwriting on a present. So I just was picking up everything. So I never really believed in that one and then two, I don't think it's something that I would pass down because if I'm spending my heart earning money on it, you don't know who really loved you.
Starting point is 01:19:49 It's me because I paid for it. Yo, the thing that killed me with Christmas was, it was like, this is after I found out, because I don't celebrate Christmas due to my religion, but besides that, it was like, it was one time I was around like 14 years old. My mom, we had, like, we moved out the projects, I mean, not the project, we moved out the shelter into a building. And, you know, this finally, our first home, we had went through three shelters in a year, this and the third. And I came in the room and my mom was crying. And I'm like, yo, my what you're crying for? And she was like, she said, after I paid all the bills, I can't do nothing for you and your sister for Christmas. That shit lit me up just first to see my mom in pain.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Secondly, for her to be upset that she can't buy me something on this fucking fake-ass holiday. You know what I mean? I just was like, I was so hurt about it. It left a bad taste with me with Christmas. And I just was like, eh, you know, I don't knock people who do that. Did that lead you to selling crack? No, no. Listen, man, I don't talk about no drugs, none of that.
Starting point is 01:20:47 I ain't leave me to selling crack. But no, what it did to me- Did you to stick it up to anybody? No, it didn't. What it did make me feel low, it did put a fire under me that made me want to change my mother's circumstances one day. You know what I'm saying? Because I watched my mom, like, my mom was like into design and shit.
Starting point is 01:21:06 And it's like, I watched my mom make drugs. She took me to a fashion show one time and I asked I'm like yo, why'd you stop doing that? She was like because I had to take care of you and your sister. So I'm like, how fucking sad is that to give up on your dreams because you have kids? Because I didn't give up on my dreams because I had kids. I mean like I just pushed forward towards minds and fortunately enough like it's a high risk, a higher reward that I'm able to monetize the things that I planned on doing. But like I thought it was so sad that my mom kind of gave up on herself in a sense so that
Starting point is 01:21:37 She could take care of me and my sister. So all of that, whenever she couldn't do for us, I just was like, it didn't matter to me. What mattered is that we just was family. Yeah, I salute your mother for keeping it 100, man, because that whole reason for the season stuff, that's bullshit. Yeah, yeah. Don't let nobody tell you that Christmas ain't lit.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Christmas is only lit when you're rich. Christmas is lit when you can afford, Christmas is lit when you can afford to do all of the things that come with Christmas, when you got the big-ass Christmas trees and you can decorate your house, and you can afford to buy people whatever the fuck they want to buy for Christmas. Don't let nobody tell you different. I grew up Jehovah Witness.
Starting point is 01:22:14 So I never celebrated Christmas. And we was poor. It was already poor. I never felt the poorness aspect of it only because I just knew we were Jehovah Witnesses. So I never was tripping. You know what I'm saying? The only time I ever got mad about it was fourth grade
Starting point is 01:22:26 when Ms. Freeman, who was a devil to this day, I don't know why. I need to find out what happened to Ms. Freeman because I've been thinking about her a lot lately. She motherfucking got mad at me because I said in class that Santa Claus isn't real. And then she said, you just feel like that because you're a Jehovah's Witness. And just because y'all don't celebrate Christmas, don't try to bring down everybody else's joy. She went crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:45 That shit made me feel like, well, damn, fuck the kingdom hall then. You know what I mean? But the moral of the story is that reason for the season stuff? No. Jesus don't even care about Christmas because y'all don't really care about Jesus on Christmas. When have y'all mentioned, have y'all mentioned Jesus at all this way? Let me tell you, it's so funny. Well, I got so many questions. I guess it's so funny, right? Just speaking about Jesus. We all, everybody believes that Jesus is black, but have you ever met a black person named Jesus before? I've never met a black person named Jesus. Not once. All white person named Jesus. I've never met a white person named Latino. Or black, that's what I'm saying. The only person that happened. Might have been Latino.
Starting point is 01:23:23 But beyond that, I was going to say, yo, where Christmas comes, Ari and fucking money bag, yo, Jada and a little baby, Cuevo and Sweetie going to have all a lot of people in they feel because a lot of people going to be thinking that that's how they should be, not knowing that these niggins is rich beyond belief. Like, Quavo got Swedea or Bentley. I saw that this morning. And then yesterday I saw Quavo got himself a Mayback truck. Then the other day, I saw Suidi buy herself a private jet.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Oh, yeah. That's Merry motherfucking Christmas. All that shit. If a motherfucker got to tell you to, hey, man. It's not about that. It's about the reason for the season. They need to keep it real what you like when no mom did and just tell you straight up like, look,
Starting point is 01:24:12 we just can't afford to do it. Yeah. You're just going to do it. That's just the truth to the matter. That's just the fucking truth to the matter. I think that's it. Unless it is there anything else you don't want to discuss? Not really.
Starting point is 01:24:26 We tackled a lot today. Y'all taking the vaccine? I got to know a few niggas that get it. I got to know some niggas that get it and watch them over six months before I do it. I don't know. I can't just jump into the fire yet, man, because I never took no back.
Starting point is 01:24:42 I never took no flu shot and none of that in my life. Not saying that that's cool. You got the chicken pox though, right? Yeah, I got the chicken pox when I was a kid. You only get that once, though. But it's like when we- It's not one white- My fault guy.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Every white doctor I know, every white doctor I know since September has told me don't take the COVID-19 vaccine. I promise you. I'll see. I feel like this is conspiracy theory. I promise you. No, they didn't say don't take it. They just don't take it until like next summer or something.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Don't take the one that comes out in the fall and the one that gets made available to the public in March of April. They was telling like when I first got my first COVID test when we came back in the city. Because we had to go into the studio that day when I announced the Black Effect. Like we had to do a COVID test. And the guy that gave me the COVID test, he was a doctor. He was like, don't. If the vaccine comes out this fall, don't even think about messing with it. until next summer.
Starting point is 01:25:34 So my doctor. I was about to say this shit is like the first batch of PlayStation 5 is like, they don't buy the first batch because they got bugs in them. I worked the bugger. Last Friday, I'm not going to say the doctor's name because this is one of my doctors and I don't know if I'm even supposed to be revealing this. She shaves my corns, right? Because I got a corn on my right pinky toe.
Starting point is 01:25:52 And so like every six months, I got to go get a shot in it and get it shaved off because I don't want to have the surgery. Not for a corn. I just ready to go get a shave. So I wouldn't got a shave last week. She said the same thing. She said, she said, Lenard, you're not going to get that vaccine. are you? I said, well, no, it's not available to
Starting point is 01:26:05 like March or April. She said, no, no, don't even get it then. She said, wait till the summer or wait until next fall. She said, they called me, but she's a doctor. She was like, they called me to come get it and I told them, nah, I'm going to wait. So I'm listening to the white doctors. Did you see that lady that took it and passed out? I did. And they said that
Starting point is 01:26:21 wasn't because of the vaccine. The hell it wasn't. Well, yeah, what was it? What was it? I don't know. I'm saying. If it wasn't the vaccine. Then I was, I was reading about that, they were saying, like, that's one of the side effects of some vaccines, vaccines, vaccines, do do that to people at times I'm like I've never heard that in my life
Starting point is 01:26:37 I've never heard somebody say they took a vaccine and they fainted you know he said what I don't know man I don't know man did he we don't know you saw this what it was like the vaccine was the syringe was empty yeah it's just like but you know what I said
Starting point is 01:26:58 did Biden take it because remember that shit when Obama was in Flint and he fake like he sipped the water Did you see that? Oh, that was fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. Exactly. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I don't trust any of these niggas, man. I need to see somebody I know that take the shit and they don't grow an extra arm or something. The way I look at it is like this. They said they need 70% of the population to take it in order for, you know, it to be effective.
Starting point is 01:27:27 It's more than enough white people. 70% is more than enough white people. Go ahead. Knock yourself out, white folks. Go out there, take it. Tell us how it is. We'll be over here fine, doing our Dr. Sebi stuff, wearing our mask, washing our hands, making sure our immune system is strong. Go out there and do your thing. I agree.
Starting point is 01:27:46 That's what I said about. And honestly, Atlanta and Florida are thriving just fine. That's what it looked like to me. Nali, you just left there, right? Yeah. I've been in Atlanta a few times, too. I ain't go out. Mask out there. I had a mask.
Starting point is 01:27:58 They like, you don't need that? I'm like going to stay. I'm like, oh, I don't, okay. I'm going around. Well, fine. regular life. They was taking your, your,
Starting point is 01:28:06 your temperature, right? I went to a few places in Atlanta and they, like, to sit down and eat, they just take your temperature.
Starting point is 01:28:12 That was it. I would still wear my mask, though, Nile. I hope you still was wearing your mask. I did wear my mask. No, you did.
Starting point is 01:28:21 She's Friday, yeah. Because you got to look at it like sex. You wouldn't just take a nigger's word if he's like, yo, I'm clean.
Starting point is 01:28:27 You know what I mean? No, nobody had a mask on. Nobody anywhere. Except for, like, certain stories in a mall, like in Linux, was like, can you put it up?
Starting point is 01:28:35 So it would be like, all right. But like walking around, nobody had a mask on. And you went to. What, Lennox? Yeah, I went to Lennox. To the shooting range. No, but you. You know what's so crazy about Lennox, though?
Starting point is 01:28:48 When you was walking through there, right? Because every time I go there, I'd be in there by myself, it's mad police in it. A lot. It's a lot of police. Somebody told me that the violence is happening in those malls because a lot of the other malls stores got shut down. So therefore, every. is coming to those two malls in Atlanta. Like, you know, it never used to be like that.
Starting point is 01:29:09 There was a mall where certain people used to go to and now that those stores are closed, everybody has to come to these two particular malls. I think it's Lennox and I forgot the other one, but they said that's what's causing like a lot of the problems. But it was jam-packed and the lines was dumb. Yo, Louis had the line. Yeah, the Louis line be crazy.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Crazy. I don't get it. That's the only thing I like about this. You gotta get on the line to go to fucking champ sports. Like, who wants to do that? I don't want to go nowhere if I don't got to. Shit, I ain't been in the mall in years, and I don't plan to because I don't spend my money on silly shit like that.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Plus, I get mad free shit, so it's like whatever. Question. So for the new year, you know, or for Christmas, you know, I would like a gift. And the gift that I'm asking is for, I want a good finance book. A good finance book? Like financial literacy.
Starting point is 01:30:02 A good finance book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Not that one. I read that. Oh, you read that already? The color of law is good. You ever read the color of law? No, I'm putting in my notes. The color of law is good. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 01:30:21 The color of law is good, but it's more so about how the government segregated America, but it does leak into the financial aspect. I'll send you some stuff when we go out. Okay, cool. I see you stuff to get off. Listen, Wayno, thank you. Naila. Appreciate you. You got anything
Starting point is 01:30:35 Y'all want to plug? That means damn, wow. It's the holidays. Y'all don't have nothing to do. I'll be on Air Christmas Day at Power 1 5'1. Make sure y'all tune in
Starting point is 01:30:49 because, you know, I'm doing a special. You know, podcast dropping. More podcasts dropping in January. So stay tuned for that on Instagram. At Naila, Simone. I'll keep you updated. Wayno, you don't want to tell us about your next moves.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Even though I don't know why everybody act like, you know, everyday struggle was your bread and butter. It absolutely probably wasn't. It was doing so much for everyday struggle. Like, yes. Yeah, I ain't just started getting money. That's what people, the people, that's a lot of people's misconceptions. Like, oh, you, that's when you started.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Nah, man, I want to plug some stuff, but I ain't, the ink ain't dry yet, man. I ain't sign yet. But don't worry about it. Just say, stay tuned, 2021. No, but I don't want to give expectations out. That's what you said. Don't get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:36 We don't know how this shit is going to go. But your day job, you're an A&R, your day job, you're A&R, you know, A&R at Asylum, you know, I'm going to be jumping a little bit back, have you on the management side, I got some new clients, I got this kid, I'm about this sign. I'm not even talking about this kid. Oh, yeah, well, inside a baby, you know, we drop inside a baby out next year, you know. But yeah, I'm just staying busy, man.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Well, I'm chilling for the rest of the year because this has been a very exhausting year for me and my family. So I'm just going to take the next couple of days and just chill out, you know, reflect and decompress and just chill out and appreciate life. But, yeah, 20-21, hope all goes well because unless the aliens land on the first. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:32:21 At this point, that's the only thing that could happen. I'd be surprised about it's the aliens land in the middle of Times Square. We need that, though. We do. We definitely do. Hey, the Earth need that humbling. I'm all for that.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Like, I think that we have this, once again, we have this, expectation that the aliens are going to be angry or evil or bad. Like, no, they just might be here to be like, y'all been fucking this shit up, man. Let me show you all right to get this shit pop. You know what I mean? Let me show you how to fucking replenish your planet. Listen, they might come with a new stimulus chuck.
Starting point is 01:32:50 You know what I'm saying? Your niggis right. Word. For real. I mean, let me teach you how to get this climate change thing, right? Y'all still beefing over skin color looking different. Like, they might get off. They might hit something on their watch and change every skin color.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Like, I could do this shit all day. He turns into any type of person. All day. Word up. Word up. Nyla, Wayno, appreciate y'all. As always, if you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant.
Starting point is 01:33:13 You're absolutely right. If you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening.

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