The Brilliant Idiots - Not Even The Fart

Episode Date: January 18, 2024

In this episode, Charlamagne and Andrew discuss Dallas Cowboys' lack of success, the possibility of bringing in Bill Belichick as the coach, Taylor Swift's swag surf, Bishop TD Jakes' viral video, NBA... Youngboy's diss to CthaGod, and Drake's classification as hip hop or pop according to Yasin Bey (Mos Def). The conversation delves into the commercialization of hip hop and the distinction between hip hop and pop music, and more!!! Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Dallas Cowboys 03:12 Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys 07:34 Lack of Discipline in the Dallas Cowboys 13:18 Taylor Swift's Swag Surf 16:02 Bishop TD Jakes' Swallowed Up 21:07 The Fun Side of the Family 25:50 NBA Youngboy 30:44 Drake: Hip Hop or Pop? 41:13 Most Def's Opinion on Drake 45:07 The Commercialization of Hip Hop 55:02 What Defines Hip Hop 59:15 The Impact of Drake, Andre 3000, and Kanye West 01:06:11 The Rise of Street Crime Stories in Entertainment 01:19:12 The Political Landscape and Potential GOP Candidates 01:27:50 Lil Nas X and Controversy 01:33:41 Conspiracy Theories 01:41:37 Valuable Lessons Learned ************************************ Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ TaylorMade-It Production Contact: Taylormadeitprod@gmail.com Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Let's start the show. Hezzy! Man, thank God you're not a football fan. What? You don't care. You don't care about what's happening in the NFL play? off right now. What's happening? You have no emotional attachment to anything. What's happened?
Starting point is 00:01:07 I mean, for me, my Dallas Cowboys lost. But I feel like you'd get used to this by now. Yeah, I don't even care. Like, it's just like, yo, people get mad at me. Like, this morning on the radio, they're like, yo, you know, you got to stop saying the Cowboys going to Super Bowl every year. What else I'm supposed to say? What else I'm supposed to say? We're going to be 12 and 5 and we're going to get eliminated in the wildcard playoff game. Like, you can't say that. Like, fuck that. You don't, you're not realistic when it comes to your football team. Exactly. You're supposed to dream.
Starting point is 00:01:29 That's why we do it. You jump out the goddamn window, man. But y'all suck. I suck tonight. Now that was that was it. We do suck. Why do you think you suck? It's just a legacy of sucking dicks? I just think it's one of those things, lack of discipline.
Starting point is 00:01:44 It's interesting, though, right? Because you think about the Dallas Cowboys, they are the world's most valuable sports franchise, period. More than soccer teams? More than soccer teams. They're the most valuable sports franchise, period. What's this, Alex? What was that?
Starting point is 00:02:01 Who was that? You know what was that? I don't think it's an accurate statement. Look it up. I'm not 100% sure. Google it. Google it. God.
Starting point is 00:02:12 That really, you know. Charlotte sent to it today, y'all. I just want to let you know. Oh, yeah. That really bothered him, you know? No, but you don't like, what is this, Alex? You don't like, hey, why? A little Stevie wonder.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah, why? You got hit the Stevie when he's giving you. What is that? What is that mean? What is that being? What is that being, bro? You know how they agree like that? Indians?
Starting point is 00:02:31 Indians? Indians. They're called him. Oh, the studs. Shout out to all the Indian studs out there. You know, they call in hymnians. Don't cancel us. We got that from the kids on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:02:41 That's it. The kids on TikTok are calling. They smelling strap ones on TikTok. God damn. Yo, come on, Charlotte. Charlotte. You're not taking a whipping at him being strap? God, damn.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Yo, come on. That lambskin fucking scrap on? You wouldn't take one. Fire. You wouldn't take one little whiff. Apologize. Apologize for what? Apologize, Alex.
Starting point is 00:03:08 When you do it, do this too. Yeah, I'm sorry. Apologize. Apologize. It's not going to change. They're the most valuable sports team. The Dallas Cowboys. Too late to apologize.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Jerry Jones' NFL team, the Cowboys is by far the number one with a value of $9 billion, almost $2 billion more than his closest rival to New York. Yankees. All right. I'm wrong. I don't know. I mean, they're I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:40 They are the most expensive losers, though. They are, man. That's what I'm saying. It's so interesting. Like a team that has not, that has a, what's their record? I think their record is three and five
Starting point is 00:03:49 in the playoffs since fucking the last time they won the Super Bowl in 96. Okay, so what happened? So Green Bay. Green Bay Fudge Packers, man. They packed you up. Packed us to fuck up. Got us the fuck out of there.
Starting point is 00:04:01 With the young. wide receiver core in the league and Jordan loved being a rookie quarterback beat the fuck out of them. The Cowboys were a number two seed, won the NFC East, Packers were like number seven. So Packers strapped it on. Strapped it on. Straped it on.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Strapped it on. And then just... Rambed it right up by assholes. Right up, I mean right up the goddamn shit. Damn, bro. Oh, man. Right up. So here's the thing. Here's the most interesting thing about the Dallas Cowboys, right? Most valuable franchise in sports.
Starting point is 00:04:32 $9 billion. Jerry Jones is worth $13.5 billion. So half of his net worth is tied up in the Dallas County. Probably. I mean, he was a billionaire before. That's why he was able to buy him. But why do we as a people
Starting point is 00:04:49 believe that there are people out here selling their souls for movies, selling their souls for record deals? I like where you're going. Selling their souls to be all types of successful. I like where you going with this. But Jerry Jones, who has all of this money, can't buy success for the Dallas Cowboys. There's nobody to be sacrificed in Dallas?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Why doesn't he ever get the Illuminati? Wait, did he not win the championships back in the day? Yes, they won in 92, 94, 96. So? No. Yeah, 92, 94, 96 they won. Because they went back to back. And then they won again in 96.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I wasn't 93, 994, 94,000. I think it might have been 93. Let me look it up. I'm pretty sure. Doesn't matter. The point is, so he's already won championships. Yes. So he has nothing to prove.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Or did he, was he like, was he not the GM when they won the championship? No, he was the owner. But you know, he was the owner. Well, Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones technically had the GM title, but Jimmy Johnson was handling all of the on-field duties. So it was all Jimmy getting the credit. But who gives a fuck? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:58 If you're the owner. And then, you know, they had their little spat and they, And, you know, Jimmy said he wanted to go coach the fucking Jaguars. And Jerry was like, you know, anybody can coach this team. But in Barry Schitzer. Barry Switzer came in and won a ring. He won. But they've been, they hit rock bottom ever since.
Starting point is 00:06:15 My whole point is, how come people that don't really move to Diedel in society get Illuminati rumors, but Jerry Jones don't? Break it down. I'm trying to figure it out. Wait, why would he not have Illuminati? Because he's not, you don't have no success. Even though they have three championships. That was in the 90s though. 29 years, 29 years with no rings.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I mean, they just tried to put racism on him and he got out of that pretty quickly. That's Illamination. That's Illuminati. That's Illuminae. That's Illumny-something-old white billionaire from Arkansas. Why wouldn't you grow up, you grew up in a racist society? Why wouldn't you be racist at some point in your life? Yeah, but didn't stick.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Also, you're paying these black guys millions of dollars. They suck dick every year. You don't think that's going to make it a little fucking racist? Like, imagine, imagine you've paid billions of dollars for a franchise, and then you're paying tens of millions of dollars to these black dudes. Every single year, they suck. Some of the greatest family. You get a black dude with two white names still sucks.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I suck tonight. No, that was it. You know what I mean? Like, he's doing everything he can to make the black guys around him tolerable to him, and it just doesn't fucking work. He's had some great, he's had some great talent, man. Even when you had Tony Romo as quarterback. Tony Romo statistically is the greatest Dallas Cowboy quarterback ever.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Nothing. Shout out to Tony Romo, man. Not an NFC championship game. What's Tony Romo with this team right here? What is he? Yeah. What do you mean? Super Bowl champion.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Meaning if Tony Romo was quarterback now. Hmm. Hmm. I never thought about that. Tony Romo. Yes. They at least get to the NFL. championship game, at least.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yes, I do believe that. At least with that team right there, yes. Come on, now. Actually, with the team from the last three years. Come on now. So, Dak is the only issue. No, no, he's not the only issue.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I mean, the biggest issue is just a lack of discipline all around. Like, they're just a very undisciplined team. And I just think that's a year, that's 29 years of, like, nobody cracking the whip. What? You're not going for the low-hanging jackfruit today? Oh, man, you can't get me to co-s on a statement like that. Are you trying to say that Jerry Jones should be cracking the whip on his players a little bit more? A little bit more.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Or just somebody, they got to bring in a coach that can do it. Bill Belichick, it's a figure of speech, Taylor. What's wrong with you? Let me understand this. Taylor. What Charlemagne was saying is that Jerry Jones has people that work for him on a field and that Charlemagne would like that
Starting point is 00:09:13 if he cracked the whip on them, that he would get better production for them on the field. A little bit more discipline. Is that more or less? Is that what you're trying to say? Yeah. Gotcha. Absolutely. 100%. Bill Belichick, that's what we need. Bill Belichick will come in there and crack that fucking whip.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But Bill Belich don't want to deal with Nah, Jerry got to give up control. Jerry 81, though. Jerry, time is ticking literally and figuratively. That big black motherfucker from the Crossroads video is standing at your door with that goddamn trench coat on and them shades and that fedora and he's ready to put his fingers in between your eyes. Now is the fucking time.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Okay, bring Bill Belichick in. Let him be the GM. Let him be the coach. Let him handle all the on-field issues. Get the fuck out of the way. Because one thing that the Cowboys do is they draft well. Bill Belichick has not historically drafted well. Yeah, was Bill Belichick overrated?
Starting point is 00:10:07 No. Does Bill Pelichick need to win another ring for us to not think he's overrated? Only because Tom Brady won one. Exactly, that's what I'm saying. So what better franchise for him to go to? In America's team, fuck the Falcons, man. You don't waste no time in Atlanta. Atlanta's rebuilding.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Like, you go to a team that is ready to go right now. That just needs a little bit more discipline. That's it. He's going to bring that discipline. He's going to bring the biggest. He got the biggest whip in the league. What you're talking about, man? He got more rings than the franchise.
Starting point is 00:10:39 But he's used to whipping whites. That is another thing. White's and Latinos. He is great at whipping whites and Latinos. Come on, man. He can really crack that whip on the whites and Latinos and really get them to deliver on the field. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Their production on that field is incredible. But I don't know if he can do with the blacks. Who has he? He didn't do that great win Hernandez. Hernandez, he did amazing way. And Hernandez was an amazing titan. The murder aside?
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah, I mean, that's a big part. That has nothing to do with it. He showed up to practice. Bill handled the on-field issue. Showed up to practice. He can't handle what you do in your own time. That's right. You want to murder people in your own time?
Starting point is 00:11:16 That's fine. You want to do a drive-by at a bar? You know? That's right. Bill always encouraged his teams to blow off steam when they're not on the field. Does he? That was Aaron's way.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Yeah. Of blowing off a little steam. Very unproductive. Way to do things, but that's what he did. And he was a great tight end. And he won Super Bowls too. You just broke the legs, so when you let go of that, it's fun. I thought you was pointing at his boots.
Starting point is 00:11:42 He's talking about all this fieldwork. Those are slave boots if I ain't ever seen them. God, damn. What plantation you work on, bro? Them shit look crazy. Them to Frederick Douglass 5. What you mean, man. Taylor, let's do some all memes necessary.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Come on, what we got, bro? What memes are going on this week, Taylor? I don't think I'd really care about. Probably not. Taylor Swift's swag surf was disgusting. Come on, stop hate it. Nah, man, that shit looked like beards when they don't connect, bro. What's wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:12:19 Look at Taylor's swag surf was garbage, because they didn't even put their arms around each other. There was no love in it, man. I think you're just jealous that it was the most successful swag surf in history. Nah, it wasn't. There's never been a swag surf that has been bigger than that. Yes, it has. There hasn't. Name one.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I don't even think people even knew what it was. See, if she would have took credit for it and, like, you know how the Kardashians would be like, yo, we got cornrows. Everybody was like, oh, the Kardashians got cornrows. Him announcers didn't know what Taylor Swift was doing. Like, nobody watching the game said, yo, Taylor's leading the swag surfing chiefs. The cheap suite right now. You want to tell it hit social
Starting point is 00:12:58 and everybody was like, oh, that was the swag. Now they'll know, but now they know because Taylor put the Swagsir's song on the mat. Nah. I don't think people knew
Starting point is 00:13:05 that song before Taylor. Come on, stop. Wow. Come on. Wow. It's a black national anthem. Come on. It's literally a Negro spiritual.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Like, it's right up there with Nuck if you buck. Regina Bell, God is good. Like, it's one of those. I mean, I was past. I mean,
Starting point is 00:13:20 on Christmas morning. Say what? Pastus is playing on New Year's Eve. It is. And, Yeah, I think it is for, it should be for everybody. What are you doing, Taylor? Yeah, and then the thing I didn't like about it was when she pulled her, like,
Starting point is 00:13:36 she pulled her scully down, like she was really killing it. Yeah, she killed that. You know what I'm saying? She did. Look at her. Yeah. Like, what is that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Oh, yeah. That's not a surf. She's wiping out, bro. Yeah, that was that was bad. Ooh. Now, Boosie's rough, too. Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I think Taylor got Boosy. I thought there was. I think Taylor got Boosie. You know? I think with all due respect, I think Taylor got Boussey. You know.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Has he never seen a Switz? I think I might, yeah, I'm going to have to go Swift with that one. Thank you. The Shaderm really did it's a battle with the Bush. What's the comment?
Starting point is 00:14:22 I think I got to go Taylor Swift with this one, man. What is Bousie doing? Boosie looks like he's actually he drowned. It says Boosie fight in tidal way. That's what I'm saying. Like he's fighting against the current. Like at least Taylor's just rocking in a boat. Like you know how you're in a boat and the boat's just rocking side to side?
Starting point is 00:14:43 You said what? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Taylor riding the wave, man. Boosey is like swimming in the current. Yeah, I'm going to go with Taylor. Yeah, Taylor's one of the greatest swag surfers in history. Oh, my God. What? She is, guys. Tell her, man.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Tell her, what else we got? What memes do we got? It's too hot in here. I'm telling them to turn the heat down. Turn the heat down, yo. I'm telling them to bring in a coffee. Like, what? Why are you playing with the bishop?
Starting point is 00:15:15 Why y'all keep playing with my bishop, man? That's Bishop T.D.J.? Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up?
Starting point is 00:15:34 What's that what's your man? Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Taylor, that's fire, yo. Taylor, great find, yo. Taylor, that was fit. What the fuck is he wearing?
Starting point is 00:15:49 That's called a robe. He's a pastor, you goddamn heathen. He looked like Circee Lanister. Saloon for the bishop, man. What is he wearing, yo? So what the fucking T.J.'s wearing up? Yo, Chris, don't forget who prayed for you, yo. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:08 Chris, don't forget who pray for you. Have you ever been swallowed? Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Man, we are such an unsirious people.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Why are we such an unsurious speech? Why do he say like that? I got to know the context. Can you call him real quick? No, I'm not calling the bishop. You call, call the good man. Salute to the goat, man, Bishop T.D. Jace! Have you ever been swallet?
Starting point is 00:16:45 Have you ever been swallowed up? I'm not going to lie. Have you ever? That's fire. You know, imagine your-girls got to send that shit to you. Yo, girls got a meme that and then get that in the DMs, yo. Get that in the DMs. Have you ever been swalleled?
Starting point is 00:17:04 Taylor, say that to your boo to date. See what he say. Yo, send that to your men. What else we got, Taylor? What we got, man? We're going to run through these memes, man. What is that, Bousie ain't what? He just talking about how he went to no gay shit.
Starting point is 00:17:18 No whole shit. Huh? They asked some people get his nipples pierce. I don't do shit that women do. You ain't gonna never catch Bucie doing no whole shit. Oh, man. I let women get all their pride. You'll never catch me doing nothing a woman, dude.
Starting point is 00:17:38 That's not true. He's doing. That's the holy. Men do a lot of things. I'm not saying. He's literally doing laundry and ironing. He's got two earrings in his ear. Okay, that's one thing.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And I know he eats pussy and he sucks tinnies. He's doing house chores, bro. Shaila, you was just talking about how you were a pillow princess. You was just talking about how you a pillow princess. Oh, girl. Okay. So that means. girls do things,
Starting point is 00:18:07 guys do things that girls do. You know, when a girl goes down on you, how do you start her leg? She said a pillow princess is a girl who gets eaten out. Yeah. But doesn't want to do anything in return. So you just, you're like this? Is that what you do? Do you do one leg up?
Starting point is 00:18:22 By the way, that's most men dream. Hell yeah. Swallow me up. And then I don't do nothing in return. Swallowed. Have you ever been swallowed? Swallow me up and I don't got to do nothing in return? Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:18:35 But what is... What's I do with pussy's things? Let me... I'm chilling. He just had his belly out. My belly's out. I'm just trying to get swallowed. I'm just trying to get swallowed.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Assumed the swallowed up position. Taylor, how do you? What position? Or do you go like this? Do you like that and then get it eaten from underneath? What is your position to get it eaten? It's literally only happened one time. And?
Starting point is 00:19:00 You're a liar. It did. You're a liar. Wait a minute. You lie? Big line. No, it only her one time that was in Aruva. That's it.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Come on. I thought it was mine. No. Stop lying. No. Stop lying now. Boy, so what were your legs? You went doggy?
Starting point is 00:19:17 No. My legs were on her shoulder. Oh, you went. God damn. See, that's what I'm saying. Boosie says I'm not going to do shit. Women doing shit that we're doing. What are talking?
Starting point is 00:19:30 She threw your shit up on her shoulder? You're just going to let her throw your legs on your shoulder? God damn. I said her shoulder. That's what I'm saying. You threw them on her shoulder? I'm still laying down. Did she grab your legs at the end, put them up, and wipe you afterwards?
Starting point is 00:19:46 White me down. No, I told you. I left that I was uncomfortable. What do you mean? Why? Why are you uncomfortable? Legs too high, your hamstrings tight? It was like a whole thing that happened in the roof of life.
Starting point is 00:19:59 You are changing this story. Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. This is not. You know what happened? I didn't see how it happened? Yes, you did. You said it was some girl and a guy and y'all did like a threesome and my friend brought this couple home.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And we wanted to just, me and my friends wanted to watch. One of the girls were like, oh, I want to eat you around. And I was like, fuck it. That's what happened. And I left because we got too weird. What was weird about it? I was high. Like, it was just too much.
Starting point is 00:20:29 You know, it starts to some fun little shit that you. She wasn't good though. I told you she wasn't good at it. But it was your idea to bring them back now. No, it felt uncomfortable. I was under the influence of drugs. It wasn't my idea. You see how it does?
Starting point is 00:20:40 You see how she told this story before? Before she was like, I'd let her do it until completion. No, yeah. I'm not. It's not my business. Not my business. Not my business. Headshot dead.
Starting point is 00:20:51 That's what you said. You said you busted right on a fucking skull. What else we got? Okay. I mean, this could go into, well, I'm going to see that for later than. What? Because it has to do with NBA. We're running through your shit, yo.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I know. Can we talk about NBA young boy? Can we talk about the song? After, after this. And then we could go to it. Something else that goes. Why the daddy's side of the family is the fun side. Do you agree or disagree?
Starting point is 00:21:19 I mean, no, not necessarily. Charlotte. And my family? I feel like in the black family, the dad's side. Yeah, my dad and his, and my daddy and his cousins and his uncles, that's why I got all my mind. damn it growing up.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Really? The best. The best. Like, I mean, the way they used to use the gay slur, I mean, even though they can't, it's not politically correct. But they were throwing it out.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Oh, my God. Watching Three's company with my dad, his first cousin's, my cousin railed him. Incredible. I think about it now, I didn't know what was really going on back then. But when I think about it now,
Starting point is 00:22:02 some of the best comedy ever seen in my life. What they do? Nothing I can. repeat, but trust and believe, they thought he was a gait slur because for whatever reason, it was kind of like watching Roll Runner and Wiley Coyote, because you know how you're, you want Wiley Coyote to catch the roll runner for whatever reason? They expected Jack Tripper to get some pussy every week. I don't know why they thought that.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And I remember when, um, I remember when dude died vividly. And that news came across the TV. And all I heard was, ah, I'm glad that punk dead. You know what I'm saying? Lived with them women all them goddamn years And they ain't getting no pussy Not one son Ain't fucking nothin
Starting point is 00:22:42 I never forget that I'm like It was a TV show Now that I'm thinking about it I'm like it was a TV show Why was they that passionate over a TV show Your dad believes, bro He absolutely believes
Starting point is 00:22:55 But yeah my daddy's side of the family Alex safe for you Kidfield South Carolina Not even close Your mom's right She's Puerto Rican Yeah my mom's siding or two Really?
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yeah I mean, the poorer side is the funnier. That's the fact. Always. Because all they got is humor. That's it. They got to entertain themselves. And that was the error before anything.
Starting point is 00:23:14 There was no phones, no nothing. So everybody had to talk. There was never a lull in the conversation. The only time there was a lull in the conversation when everybody was too drunk or too high. Other than that? We're cooking. Oh, my God. Non-stop.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Non-fucking stop. Like, I have a story that my dad's cousin, Rale, tells. about a time he thought a lion was in his yard. And monks gonna stop. So it runs in your family. It runs in a family. Just go sit there. No, but he had every reason to think there was a lion in this yard.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Okay. I'm sure he did. No, he, it was late at night. He drives into his yard. He sees a lion in the middle of his yard. Okay. So he turns the car on, turns the lightsaw, and he's sitting there.
Starting point is 00:24:05 just looking. And he said to himself, there's a lion laying in my yard. So he said he flashed the lights, thinking the lion's going to get up and walk away. He said the lion does not move. So he says he turns the car on,
Starting point is 00:24:23 hitch the gas, rum, roo, roo, said the lion still does not move. So he creeps up a little bit with the car just to get a little closer. He said a lion still doesn't move. He goes, So he gets out of the truck
Starting point is 00:24:38 and he says he creeps up on the line and he goes, rah! And he runs back into the truck. Right? The lion still don't move. So he says he creeps back to the line again. Right, run back to the truck. The lion still don't move.
Starting point is 00:24:50 He goes, shit, the lion's sleep. Maybe I can make it to the house. So he gets out the truck, runs to the house, falls in like a mud puddle or something. Thinks the lion, he hears him, and wakes up, rushing to the door, beats on the door, it's in the house. his wife was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:25:07 He goes, there's a lion. Get my gun. There's a lion in the goddamn yard. So she looks at him. She goes, I bought that from the pottery store. It was like one of those lions. One of those lions is drunk. One of those lion statues. The Rao goes,
Starting point is 00:25:26 well, bring my gun anyway so I can kill myself because I got to be the dumbest motherfucker. That's what I grew up around. You know what I'm saying? I grew up around that kind of humor, bro. So, yes, definitely my daddy's side of the family. Now can we talk about him being young boy, tell me. So what's the deal with NBA young boy?
Starting point is 00:25:46 Break it down for me. He has to live in Utah. He's on house arrest. But is he, he's not from Utah originally. Where is he from? Louisiana. So why is he not on house arrest in Louisiana? You get to choose which house you're under arrest?
Starting point is 00:26:01 Probably because he'll get into a lot of trouble. He's a celebrity. It's actually smart. Well, no, no, no. I'm just saying legally, why are you allowed to just go to? And also, is there an amount of acres that constitutes as house arrest? For example, let's say you live on a house that has a thousand acres. Is that still house arrest?
Starting point is 00:26:19 Technically, yeah. I mean, it's your house. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's your house. They can't tell you what kind of house can live in. Even if you live on 100 acres, you know, you still want to be able to come and go as you please. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:32 Like, you know, I've never heard of an NBA young boy show. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure he would like to go out there and perform. The guy had, what, six number one albums? You know, it's nothing like, you know, it's nothing like going out to touch the people, you know what I'm saying? But, yeah, he's on house arrest. He's got 11 kids, what, nine baby moms.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And he was sitting down with my guy, Bootleg Kev. Child's a Bootleg, Chuck. He went to the good brother, Bootleg Kev. He, um, just play it, Taylor. You do have a lot of children. And, you know, I've been around you to see, in a short amount of time that you're a great father, how important is fatherhood to you, man?
Starting point is 00:27:12 Not really big on it, to be honest. What do you mean by that? You're not big on it. I mean, you're a family man. I'm here with you. I see you. Yeah. I'm only out.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I'm only like in here because you're. Oh, well, I don't believe. It's a crazy topic because I'm not a tight, like, a sugar coat. No, no. But I'm four walls all day. Every day. When you say four walls, you mean locked in? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Just honed in on the music, recording. Yeah. You can take the hat. I don't mind. We bond a lot. But emotionally, literally inside. Working. No matter of watching TV, I'm just sitting there all day.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah, I don't even know what he meant. I just know if you got 11 kids, you can't say you do. You're not big on fatherhood, bro. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, you're big on fucking.
Starting point is 00:28:13 You're definitely big on fucking. I just, you know, what child do you get to do you realize? I'm not really big on this. You know what I'm saying? Is it after two? Is it after four?
Starting point is 00:28:23 Or like, you know, you got the 11, but yeah, I gave him donkey any day for that. I mean, he always just seems so unbelievably high every time I see him in anything.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Really? You don't think that? I don't think he could smoke on probation. Yeah, I thought that, you know, when I saw the interview he did with a million dollars worth a game, I thought that. But yeah, he's on probation. You're on probation at house arrest. Like, he can't be high. He's definitely smoking.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I mean, nah. Even in that video? You're on probation and house arrest like that. I don't think he's playing with him drugs like y'all think he is. I really don't. So if he's not, he's just pretending to be high? I don't know. I just think that's his draw.
Starting point is 00:29:06 the way he talks, it's like that Louisiana draw. He looks out of it. He looks out of it. I mean, he's very on top of not wanting to go back to jail. Because, like, I heard all of his interviews that he does. He needs to approve it. So nothing goes out that can get him in trouble and send back to jail. But that's not him. That's his. No, like, he's really adamant about it. Like, he gets mad at people. He's like, yo, I didn't approve this clip. Yeah, that's the stuff I don't. I get it. But, you know, it's just like, yo, don't put yourself in that position then.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Like, you know, if you don't feel like, you don't feel like, you don't feel like, you don't feel like, doing the interview that day, don't do the interview day. Yo, I mean, not to be conspiracy theorists here, but like, do you think that, like, his, his, uh, record label loves this setup? It's like the perfect set up for a record label. Hey, here's this guy who's dangerous rapper. If he's out in the streets, he might get shot or he might go to jail.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Let's put him in a place where he literally cannot leave and just produce his music. That's the only thing he can do all day is make music. He's like a dairy cow for the record. label. They're just milking them with albums. I can see that. It's like this, if you're a record exec, you're like, oh my God, we got a house arrest. We're going to squeeze so much money out of this kid. Very unique artists though, because there's not too many people who put
Starting point is 00:30:20 out as much music as being a young boy. And he's been doing this. Like, this isn't something new. Like, he's been putting out albums on top of albums forever, you know, because he was, this is the second record label. He was on Atlantic before. Now he's on Capitol. And he's just so prolific. he can do it? I don't listen to a lot of MBA young. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:30:42 It's like I know of him from just kind of internet culture, but I don't know any of his songs. He had this one song with Domingo I used to really fuck with. I can't remember the name of it. Do you remember the record? Yeah, but I mean, he's like these kids love him.
Starting point is 00:30:54 He's only 24. I know, and I heard, listen, I've heard all about him. There's no question, but like, I don't know a banger that I could be like, oh, yeah, that would be a young boy song? But if he's in a 360, wouldn't the labels hate this? Because now he can't make any money on the rope?
Starting point is 00:31:06 That's if he's in a 360 and if they care about the road. But I wonder if the labels are, I wonder if the labels are just like, if he's on the road, we have to worry about him getting killed. Or doing some fuck shit with, like he just got a gun charge, right? So it's like,
Starting point is 00:31:22 that's why he's locked up. So it's like he's going to break the law, most likely. And if he does, he gets put in jail. This is better than jail because if he's in jail, he can't make us money. But if he's not in jail,
Starting point is 00:31:35 he's on house arrest, then you can make all the money in the world. Like, I think that there are execs that are salivating over this. I mean, house arrest probably is the best thing for, you know, because who knows what could have happened over the last few years. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:47 Sometimes you got to just sit there until you turn 25 when your prefrontal cortex develops fully, you know what I mean? And you're able to make more rational decisions. I mean, I'm not going to, I mean, you think it's that he's not 25 is the reason why he's?
Starting point is 00:32:01 I mean, it's just a scientific fact. Your prefrontal cortex don't develop until you 25. I mean, it's developed enough for most people to not. Is it? Yeah. I mean, when you think of him, right? So you think the only reason why he's lived this life is because he doesn't have a prefrontal cortex that's developed? Why did Alex not do that?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Alex, who? Media. Did you know Alex when he was under 25? He was a police officer. Some of the craziest people you ever want to meet. That is true, actually. Some of the craziest motherfuckers you ever want. want to meet our police office.
Starting point is 00:32:38 That's facts. You know what I mean? Shout to NYPD. And then when I think of that, when I think of, like, I think of, like, I think of, like, I think of, like, J. Marant in the decisions he's made. I think of Zion Williamson in the decisions he's made. I'm just saying, there's something to it.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Stop it. I'm just saying. I mean, by the way, NBA young boy is the reason John Morant had the nickname NBA Dumboy. NBA Gun Boy. Dumb Boy. Dumb boy. Yeah, they was NBA Young Boy, but they was calling Jai, NBA Dumb Boy.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Are there any good ball? Mars about you? Like, is there a line where you're like, ooh, that was pretty good? I didn't listen to the whole thing. You could really understand him. I always think he mentions me in the beginning, though. No, he says... Let me hear it in the beginning? That you're so good. Amazing use of a live, don't?
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah. Okay. Don't get out of dating, no. All right. You invited to a great dink. I invited the great digging mom. All he got to pull up on me, nigger, and talk to me face to face. You know what they say this day I got a plan for pictures trying to take them Boy for place
Starting point is 00:33:49 Why would I go to Grave Digger Mountain? Try to find a place to hide this tool and know it's fucked the police I'm fucked up and I'm ruthless on the murder mine and I do it with that See somebody having an issue with you and they say hey come to Grave Digger Mountain Get in your shit, bitch, I'll show you how to act a donkey. Say whatever that I want so they think I'm crazy. Like, top, baby. Bitch, it's hot niggins.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Say whatever that you want, but bitch, bet not play with me. You ain't thom'n'n' niggas. You ain't done, niggas. I've been stuck in me and why I'm duck in front of feet. I've been on a piss for my baby now I'm a see. Nigger, fucking get eggly at red chest, I keep them fain. Bitch, I'm thug and catch them bad. I make my shawdy who bitch.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Bitch, I've got me fucked up. You niggas all this fucking. Can I do a thing. That's on security, I got off the Stop. Yeah, little guns aren't real. This man is rehabilitative. This man is rehabilitated.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I'm a donkey and I keep it on me. Pending money, bitch don't pick upon me. I'm a donkey, I need some money. I just paint the million. I'm a donkey. You're running up on me. I fucking kill you. Bunch it.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Bitch, I hit you with this glock. Can't fuck with Jay Z. I'm way too eating it. Bitch, I spend on binkin. My childhood. He's snapping though He's saying for shit All up in my business get your ass
Starting point is 00:35:21 Bost up for it I got off that shit Nah I'm my shit bitch that I was my dick Hold on B'all bow by a man to my bitch when I get off my dick You put the nascals don't exist I got that shit on and I keep that black A million dollars that ain't shit
Starting point is 00:35:38 It's actually pretty good No, they said it. They fuck with this record. Say whatever that I want so they think I'm crazy. The most impressive thing about this video is that he has a real live donkey in the video. That is so smart because that's tax deductible. If you have livestock on your property, whether it's like cows, pigs, chickens, I'm sure donkeys fall into that category, it's tax deductible. and the food for the livestock is tax deductible.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Oh, really? So if he got all of them acres of land in Utah and he got real livestock like donkeys on his shit, fantastic. So you like it, you're into it? I fuck with it. Listen, I inspire art, guys. I don't know if y'all knows it.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I have inspired art for a long time. I don't know if y'all... Who do you think has the best bar on you? Bar on me or about me? Both. About me is Drake and it's not even close. Which one? They send bottles for Charlemagne.
Starting point is 00:36:42 That shit, I, I'm in Zanzibar and people sending me bottles of wine because of that. I'm literally, New Year's Eve last, this year. Y'all know I was in Zandabar. Sending me bottle up and the business did that. I'm going to do the bottle to Thalameh. They look at it. The bottle for Thalameh. I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I'm serious Like literally Like definitely that About me The best this Who had the best this? I don't know I don't even remember most of them at this point
Starting point is 00:37:20 There was some good I mean it's been a lot of good ones I don't remember who I don't remember Sounds like Drake Drake had the best one about me Drake might have had the best this too though Now that I think about
Starting point is 00:37:31 What he said? He said like Charlemagne You see the lighter in the darker patches That was a good one That was a good one Yeah, do you think Drake is Hip Hop or pop? Drake is absolutely hip hop, bro.
Starting point is 00:37:48 He's pop too though. Why would Mozdeff say that? Well, he got asked that. Like, let's not act like he just volunteered that. God damn, there's a 10 times rapist dish Salomey on the God list. Oh, wow. Teller just pulled that up. You loved Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Kanye, you never dissed me in a song? I think maybe it's... I think this is just in general. Oh, that's when he told me to shut the fuck up on stage. Liffie Hustle this year? Yeah, but that was out of it. That was wrong. Me and Nipsey always been been super cool.
Starting point is 00:38:22 That was actually my fault. That was my fault. I was being funny and I forgot something. I remember that. Yeah, Migos. Shalerman, man, you say the game donkey other day. Bustin Rhymes was never in a lyric. That was just face-to-face confrontation.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Ammon Shumper. Amon Shumper? What did I say about Amon Shumpur? Amon is definitely... Tell Charlemagne when he's seen me better holler at me, hate her. Fire. Never heard that song.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I don't remember that one. Maybe I do it. I forgot. Is this it right? No, I don't know. Houthamon Shumpet. Yellow Wolf. Yeah, I used to give Yellow Wolf hell.
Starting point is 00:39:05 He said, what do you? say about me? Like Shalaman, God fucking hates me. Man, wish I felt accomplished by having such a prestigious overachieving genius like Shalda made the complain about me. Why can't somebody who's really done something doubt me?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Wow. I like overachieving genius. Riff raf. Damn, what riffraff say? Yeah, he was kind of hard on a white rapist. He's the guy. Yeah. He's kind of hard.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I said, see, riffraff was Katie Perry's date to the BMAs last night. I will never, ever tell myself what I can't do. That's not a diss? Sounds like you. That's not a diss. That's something you said. I did say that, but how was that a diss? All riffraff says, you can't be me.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Fredro stuff. This must be an old list. Yeah. Fredro, yes. That wasn't a rap record. Trinidad James. I don't remember none of these shit, yo. Jaheim.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Charlemagne was pretty brutal in his takedown of the all-go-to-every-thing rapper's career. And look at my face in that video, yo. God, that's why Drake said he'd see the darker in the light of patches. Yeah, wow. That's wild. That's wild. Listen, Drake is hip-hop, bro. Little twist?
Starting point is 00:40:32 What the fuck is going on? Not a little twist, girl. How long's this list, Joe? What the fuck? This is old. This got to be an old list. Listen, Drake is hip-hop, but Drake is act also everything else. But why would most even suggest that?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Why wouldn't he just say exactly what you just said? And he also took some shots. He was like, it's like shopping music. Fantastic. Fantastic bar. Stop, hey. Yeah, it was fair. When he said that, when he was like, it's like shopping, something to shop to.
Starting point is 00:41:05 aggressive shopping. Yeah, aggressive. That was hilarious, bro. That was funny. But why is he taking shots at Drake, though? I think he was asked a question and he answered it. Come on, bro. You know?
Starting point is 00:41:15 I don't think he feels that? He might feel it, but like you still, you still, uh, let's say what he said. Let's see what he said. Like, why are you been thinking about Drake in that way? They asked him. Watch. Drake is pop to me. In the sense, like, if I was in Target in Houston, and I heard a Drake song, it feels like,
Starting point is 00:41:34 feels like a lot of his music is compatible with shopping. Hilarious. Hilarious. Commercial music. Oh, it's, you know, shopping with an edge in certain instances. That's hilarious. Fair. I like Drake's music, but I understand exactly what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Of course, I mean, I get it. It's commercial, entertaining, fun, good formulaic music. It's likable. Likeable music, yeah. It's likable. Um, but is it, you know, I'm going to leave you alone. We're going to move. We're going to move on.
Starting point is 00:42:15 When did most that become so pretentious? Like, that shit is annoying. No, that's, that's most hip-hop heads. Yeah, but most of those, most of those, like, pure hip-hop heads, they would just want the bars. Like, most of them are pretentious, bro. Yeah, but when do you start talking like that? he's been doing that for a while yeah I've never knowing him not to talk like that
Starting point is 00:42:40 where's the two words most deaf where's the ruckus records most deaf that's always been him the ruckus records most death was not like shopable he was like yo like that's why I love his role
Starting point is 00:42:56 and a gay professor I love his role in brown sugar you ever seen brown sugar that's him in brown sugar he's played the biggest most hip hop pretentious rapper who won't even sign to a record label because they got the hip hop dalmatians. He's not even remotely trying to do no commercial shit, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:14 Most Dev is nice as hell of rapping, bro. Very nice. But guess who else is nice? Drake. Aubrey fucking. No, no, no. Is it all the old rappers don't like Drake, it seems. No, it's not that.
Starting point is 00:43:24 It's that, at least in my opinion, I don't know what most of them's motivation is. But to me, I think that there's always, and these guys are competitive people that dedicate their life to a craft and there's going to be envy for the people who on top. And the price of being on top is the hate that comes with it, the resentment that comes with it. And like, even calling him not hip hop, like, nobody would say most deaf is not hip hop. Everybody would be like, oh shit, most deaf is hip hop. So he's essentially carved out like a WMBA within the rap umbrella where like only the people where he's going to get to be the top of, he's going to get to be the MVP and the WMBA. Well, Drake isn't hip hop. He might rap, but he's not
Starting point is 00:44:03 hip hop and I'm I'm the MVP of the WMBA but I don't like the WMBA reference but I get what you're saying you're basically saying he carved out his own subgenre yeah yeah yeah which yeah which he can exclude the number one dude from well they're always going to do that to drink for a number of reasons because they can't compete with him well also if you can compete with him you wouldn't also because of the whole ghost riding thing that's really what I think a lot of it is I think the whole ghost-riding thing and people saying it's like if you found out a comic wasn't writing his own shit. Fair, but at the same time
Starting point is 00:44:38 it's like, I can't fathom that he can't write his own shit. I can't say that. I agree with you. Listen, I totally disagree with most deaf. I, because here's the thing, if Drake isn't hip-hop, then Kanye is in hip-hop. Andre D.000 isn't hip-hop. Lauren Hill isn't hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Because all of these people have given you a whole lot of rap, right? Andre's giving you a whole lot of rap, but then Andre decided to go experiment with other things. He decided to give you what he gave you on speakerbox of Love Below. He decided to give you a flute album. Kanye West is giving you 808 and heartbreaks. Like, you know, Lauren Hill is always experimented with R&B and rap.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Like, if Drake isn't hip-hop because he chooses to flirt with other genres, then there's so many artists who are in hip-hop. Well, I don't think that's why he's saying it's not hip-hop. I think he's saying it's not hip-hop is because he's commercial and he's shopping. But who isn't commercial? Hip-hop has been commercial since, the late 90s. I think the guys that aren't selling create the subgenre so that they can have validation within their subgenre. So they're like, yeah, I'm not selling, but the reason I'm not
Starting point is 00:45:42 selling is because I'm hip hop. When in the reality, like you just said, there are people who are hip hop and they also sell. So I just think it's a justification that a lot of artists create for themselves. And that's just not just Moses, a lot of different guys. And I get Moses, frustration because every single person that he meets goes, most, you are the best rapper ever. Most. Oh my God. Miss Fat Booty was the craziest song. Most.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Your two words, like, everything that you've done is incredible. So he's walking around like, I am incredible. I'm the best. Why am I not selling like the best? Oh, it must be that he does a form of music that's more digestible and shittier and the masses can consume it, whereas I have high art and high art can be consumed by people who have tastes. Well, that's why, you know, Glasloat the Glass-Malone is the host of the No Steelers podcast on the Black
Starting point is 00:46:35 Effect I Heart Radio Podcast Network. What most said, Glasses has always said. Glasses always compares Drake Music, Walmart, are McDonald's. He said, he said it's mass consumption that so many people can indulge in. And with all due respect to Glasses, he's also a rapper who doesn't sell as many records as Drake. And so you would say the same thing. Let's call. Let's call. Let's give him a call.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Hollering. Let's give glasses a call. Let's call. I'm just saying that's what I've seen this happens so often with like all different genres of art. Yeah, I don't want to speak for, I don't want to speak four glasses. Yeah. Hold on. But I guess what I would say is that I don't like the subgenres. And maybe most would, maybe most would like belittle his own work because there have been songs that he's done that have been incredibly popular. They could be played at Walmart or Target or whatever the hell you could shop to it.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Like there's been numerous times where I heard Miss Fan, booty while I'm out. It's not just in a club or just in my car or whatever it is. So he has produced the massive success hits. Maybe he would look at those and be like, they're too corporate. I'm not into it. And that's his, you know, he has his own artistic vision. He can do whatever he wants. But he is capable of being part of those. What Drake does is he produces those at a much higher clip than any other artists. And that's why he's the number one guy. Yeah, I wish that the person who was interviewing most would have said, but there's been a lot of different rap artists who have been pop. Because what most said it's a very it's a big distinction right he didn't say drake makes pop music he said i think
Starting point is 00:48:05 drake is pop then he started talking about drake's music now pop just means it's short for popular so there's plenty of you turn on z-100 right now if you turn on z100 right now you're going to hear mad hip-hop records yeah because hip-hop is the most popular genre now there is also a pop sound we know the pop sound it's the in sync the back street boys the one direction which slaps by way. Fucking best song ever. One of my favorite songs ever, literally. It's literally the best song ever.
Starting point is 00:48:33 But if you listen... One direction. One direction. Fantastic. Maybe it's the way she walks. Oh, fire. But Drake don't make that kind of music. So to say Drake is a pop artist,
Starting point is 00:48:46 you got to take away all his rap. Drake can literally go on stage, don't do none of his singing songs, and can rap for two hours straight. Yeah, that's the thing. That's hip-hop. How is he not? hip-hop. Here go G right here.
Starting point is 00:49:02 G. We're sitting here on Brilliant Idiot, me and Andrew Shultz, and he said you're in most deaf-hating on Drake. I don't know why is that the first thing. Like, Drew knows me, so that's crazy he would think I'm hating. Yeah, he said hate him.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Yeah, he said you hating on Drake. Why are my hate him on Drake, Drew? Well, I guess it depends on if you think music for Walmart is derogative is that a compliment when you say that or is that a criticism
Starting point is 00:49:41 it's not it's just it's just a term of pop music right it's like it's like Madonna like you don't it's like Madonna it's just it's pop music it's hard it's army living I think you and I think you and most are saying different things
Starting point is 00:49:59 no he's done the same thing too it's the music you hear when you shot yeah but I think he's using that and I guess we should just ask him but it feels as if he's using that and I'm judging off of tone it feels like he's using that as a criticism where you are saying that
Starting point is 00:50:14 because of his popular because of Drake's popularity his music is played at all these establishments but not because of the sound no it's created it's created to be played at Targeted
Starting point is 00:50:29 Walmart. Oh, I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all. So if it's like a next episode or a gin and juice, which has become massive, popular cross-over records performed in the Super Bowl, they weren't made to be that. Exactly. I don't believe that
Starting point is 00:50:44 his is made to be that. Culture and experience. Drake music is... I just had this conversation, right? I just had this conversation. Kentucky's fried chicken, right? sells fried chicken
Starting point is 00:50:58 free. That is soul food, right? That don't mean Kentucky fried chicken sells food. Topo Bell has his tape on Mexican food. They don't make Mexican food. Yeah, they do. No, no, they don't. They make an Americanized version
Starting point is 00:51:16 of a Mexican cuisine. That's a pop version. They take flavors, season, different things out so America can digest it. That's what Drake's music. all of these things are pulled out for America and digest it. He's brilliant. I think that's what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:51:34 It's made for everybody else to enjoy it. He makes music for the masses, but I mean... But that's what everybody does? So, yeah, so what's the difference? No, no, no, no. Everybody doesn't do that, Drew. You don't think Kanye did that at one point? I keep saying this.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Remember we had this conversation? I was like, I've been thinking about where does he stand? I see Kanye is Michael Jackson and drink is madame. Michael made soul music Of the wall is a soul album No, no, the Jackson's, that's a disco album The Jackson 5 made soul music All the wall is a disco album
Starting point is 00:52:11 Disco's black music though That's still black cultural soul music I'm not knocking it I'm just telling you these origins Where some R&D music Which was the Jackson 5 And I think Kanye does the exact same thing You take urban ideas
Starting point is 00:52:24 right and then he shovels them in to where you can get thriller and off the wall right he's fantastic at it right you listen to the thriller right thriller is just uh rick james giving to me baby or or or billy dean is just on the note i can't go for that or you know uh beat in just macherona part of that so don't stop you get enough is marvin gay got to give it up like there are obvious things that he's going to create a version of pop music from an urban you know hey drink is different great great You're saying, He's tough the fried chicken and taco bill. So you're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong here,
Starting point is 00:53:02 you're saying that it is his intention to water down and manipulate these other genres to make it more digestible for the masses. Yeah, not manipulate. That's what being a great pop producer is. Max Martin, right? Well, no, you compared it to KFC,
Starting point is 00:53:24 and you compared it. compared it to Taco Bill. They are influenced by a certain type of food, but capitalism has forced them to try to sell as many tacos as they can or as many biscuits as they can. And because of that, they're making it digestible to as many possible people as they can. Chinese food in America is different than Chinese food in China, yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 00:53:47 What I would argue is this is the type of music he just wants to make. He's not going, how can I make it most digestible to everybody, but rather this is the stuff, this is my artistic reflection. Well, this is the only music he can make. Well, then if it's authentic to him, he's not watering anything down and...
Starting point is 00:54:08 But this is my point. He's the all... As a Canadian person, his paint is the All-American experience. That's why it's referenced as pop news, right? It's not about, like, Pobel Bell was never a Mexican food. It was a top of place started in Southern California by this white man who wanted to make Mexican food for white people.
Starting point is 00:54:33 What I'll push back in Sagey is I feel like Drake's best, at least to me, his best work is when he's rapping about his experiences in Canada. Agree, but they're pop experiences. Not, I mean, not to me. Not when he's talking about trying to be on the come up, when he's talking about being on the come up, trying to make it as a rapper. yada yada yada like i like when he raps about what he's going through in canada that sounds very organic to me i don't think there's nothing to like or dislike about it's always fantastic he's a fantastic artist do you think he's hip-hop no he's not obvious he's not so if a guy can get on stage and rap two hours of music he's not hip-hop no just because you use rap music does not make you
Starting point is 00:55:22 hip-hop. Brow music is, at this point, it's going to be used by everybody. Post-Belong music that you get in. Brow music has the
Starting point is 00:55:30 least barriers of hip-hop in general. You can match yourself as a hip-hop artist, easy. Drake does it very well, though, so what's hip-hop? O'S-Song came
Starting point is 00:55:40 through the door, calling himself White Allen Iverson would bring to the back, got in the door and said, I am not back, right?
Starting point is 00:55:47 Because he could go and be a white person. So what's hip-hop? Look at it. All of that. Shots said what's hip-up. Street urban culture, street urban culture
Starting point is 00:55:57 personified through the arts. So Kanye is not hip-hop? Is most hip-hop? Well, that's the problem, right? I've been having this conversation for a while. Of course, is his time. He's close enough, right?
Starting point is 00:56:10 Because there are access to the rooms, but the rings. So there are, you know, kid that grew up in suburban areas that still had street urban culture. Ask him. Ask him if most is hip-hop. You think most deaf is hip-old?
Starting point is 00:56:22 Hell fucking yeah Is he street urban culture personified? Yes, he is dishe populated The slang he uses The way he walks, the way he talks Is street urban
Starting point is 00:56:36 Not in a recent community The culture created in those places Not in suburban little class Canada That's completely far away From street urbanized out You told me you don't like no hip hop Unless somebody get killed on the album
Starting point is 00:56:52 I'm never saying that in luck I'm just ridiculous I don't have tried this is crazy that's a lie so so you can't be hip hop unless you
Starting point is 00:57:09 so you can't be hip hop unless you're from America and you're from the hood essentially street earned and cultural it don't matter because I wouldn't even America it's not just street urban
Starting point is 00:57:21 it's street over culture It has to be crying-written Disney-populated community The culture created there G told me that he needs A drive-by every 16 boss And he needs at least six women Getting called a bitch in two songs
Starting point is 00:57:36 For him to appreciate That is ridiculous Buy glasses Bye glasses, thank you It was my favorite phone by the kid Who? I saw the movie this one I have this orderly's on DVD right now
Starting point is 00:57:49 You said the fat boys The fat boys The fat boys pushed a very violent lifestyle on the people, man You know, they did You can't say they push the lifestyle Because people aren't talking about their experience Yeah, but they were pushing an unhealthy lifestyle It was very unhealthy lifestyle
Starting point is 00:58:07 I love the fat boys, very unhealthy lifestyle There was a different day then And we understood that's what they were going Y'all would say the fat boys are not hip-hop right now You said who? Y'all would say the fat boys aren't hip-hop Of course they are I believe they are
Starting point is 00:58:24 I believe Drake is hip hop too though No no he's not He's a pop art That uses rap Sometimes as a deliver Damn I'm gonna hit your line My man
Starting point is 00:58:35 That was Glasses Malone The host of the No Ceilings podcast Y'all ladies and gentlemen I don't know man I think Drake is hip hop I think Andre 3000 is hip hop I think Kanye's hip hop I get what G sang
Starting point is 00:58:46 But I think these people rap way too good To not be considered hip hopio Because you're looking at off of like the skill of rap. He has prerequisites for his prerequisites for hip hop that are outside of Drake's control. Yeah. Whereas you're treating it based on if someone is rapper or they're not raping.
Starting point is 00:59:04 As simple as that's me. And maybe most has similar prerequisites or different prerequisites that like, for example, Drake just doesn't fit in. Maybe Drake is or maybe most as simple as like, yo, if your album is going number one, it can't be nuanced and niche enough to be real hip hop. It has to be pop, and maybe he doesn't like that. And that's why I think we put ourselves in boxes, right?
Starting point is 00:59:23 Because to me, when I look at Drake, when I look in Andre 3000, look at Kanye West, all I see is three of the greatest artists that ever existed, period. Forget the genre. Like, there's three of the greatest. Who? Kanye, Andre, Drake. Yeah. Just, Rick hasn't taken the same chance.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Let me see. I mean, what did you say? Yes. What did you say, Chris? I don't think Drake has taken the same chances. I mean, I've taken more. I don't mean in terms of the format. I mean, in terms of feeling back to layers.
Starting point is 00:59:52 I think he has incredibly, yeah. He's vulnerable, but what else you want? More than that. I mean, I think that those guys are much more nuanced artists, for sure. I, are they? I mean, Drake is taking some real chances, man. Like, I mean, there's a lot of things that Drake has done. Miss Fat Booty?
Starting point is 01:00:14 Miss Fat Booty was fired. One of my favorite songs. I could wrap it bar for me. bar. I wouldn't say that that is like more vulnerable or peel back layers more than any Drake song. I mean, Drake has jumped out the window and did the Tucci slide. Hated that record, by the way. I think most deficit stuff that really makes you think beyond a song. Most that is dope. There's no question. Right. I don't go to that layer with Drake or that that space. You don't, but I was telling my man this earlier. These kids, most of their captions for the past 12, 13 years have been Drake lyrics.
Starting point is 01:00:45 They think Drake is Nordromis. Drake is Malcolm Gladwell. to these kids. Seriously. Like, he's... This literally means when he puts out, I'm like, all right, my new caption is coming. That's what I'm saying. Like, he says some really deep shit to a lot of these
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Starting point is 01:06:15 which we'll be announcing shortly, okay? All right, let's get back to the show. What else we got, Taylor? Andrew, you want to show your 50-cent story? Yes. Yo, talk to me about the goat, man. That was crazy. Was he psych to see you?
Starting point is 01:06:32 Because I know he's reposted. Yeah, he was reposted, Brueyneed idiot. Yeah, it was just dope. And, yeah, he was great storyteller, charismatic as fuck. You're going to bring you into the power universe? I don't think so. I don't think I'll be a new character of the power universe. You could be one of Tommy's cousins.
Starting point is 01:06:49 But I was telling the guys, I was like, I got it like from talking to him, you know, why he's been able to have so much success in entertainment as well. Because, like, this is what we were talking about on Flagon, but like, just imagine this. The great American crime stories for decades have been the Italian mafia in Americans. That's right. Okay. We've kind of went through almost all of those stories. and when you're an Italian
Starting point is 01:07:13 with a story or you wrote a story about the Italian mafia you wanted two people to direct it Scorsese Fort Coppola right?
Starting point is 01:07:25 Like, and why? Because they're Italians, right? They understand the culture. They're not going to have your character that is a representation of you looking goofy out there they actually know who you are.
Starting point is 01:07:34 If it's some random white guy from fucking Maine who's writing a script about it he's going to fuck up the food, he's going to fuck up the gestures are going to fuck up everything. I think the next
Starting point is 01:07:44 line of American streets or crime stories are going to come from the black community and the hip-hop community. And I think you've already started seeing this happen now. Now, if you're somebody who comes from the street, you're locked up, right? Who do you
Starting point is 01:08:00 want writing your story? Do you want some white guy in Hollywood that makes movies that says that he can do right by you that has no fucking clue what the street code is, no clue? the street culture is no clue what your character is supposed to wear, what color is he's not supposed to wear, what hand gestures he's supposed to do or not do, or do you want a guy who's actually lived it? To me? To write?
Starting point is 01:08:22 Not to write. You get professional writers to do it. To produce to make sure that your story is safe. Someone who understands what it's like to be out there and also understands how important that is to be represented. When I'm saying, you know, I'm talking to him about that. I'm like, oh, this is genius, bro. you got it. You figured it out. Like, of course, if you're a street dude, you're going, yeah, 50 got to make my story. And if this is going to be the next line of these American crime stories like the Italian mafia, the run the Italian mafia had in American, like, you know, cinema, I mean, to me, you know, it's just, we're talking about tens of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm only going to base it off stories that I know are real, because I was about to say the wire was fantastic, but that'd be lying because I never saw it.
Starting point is 01:09:09 episode of The Wire. But I'll just say anyway. Wire was fantastic because that's, you know, but it was so good. Paid and full. Amazing story about, you know, the drug dealers in Harlem, the Alphos and the Rich and Pole, I think the names were, things like that. That was fantastic. I don't know who wrote that, but to your point, Dame Dash was an executive producer. You know what I mean? So it gives it a, uh,
Starting point is 01:09:30 credibility. When you think about old, you don't need the writer to be from the culture. No, no. You just need a producer. Like John Singleton with Boys and the hood, the Hughes brothers with men of society. And those guys weren't necessarily street guys, but they were black people who understood. Aware enough. Aware.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 50's just in such a unique position, man, because, yeah, there's nobody who was looking at that genre like the gold it is. It is the next line of American rags the richest stories. Yeah. I mean, that's what was so seductive about the Italian mafia, or these people who are come here with nothing. and then go, it's the American Dream.
Starting point is 01:10:11 You go make tens of millions of dollars. And keep in mind, all those American Dream families that we now see as like regal and royalty and aristocratic, all of them started in bootlegging or selling fucking opium or doing some sort of illegal business. Now I'm not saying that you should do that to get on in America, but it's not dissimilar to the black American street crime that you will see now populating Hollywood Cinemate.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I mean, that's why, That's why so many black people gravitated towards Goodfellas and gravitated towards Sopranos. Yeah, this is my way out too. Absolutely. Gravitated towards Scarface. I wonder if they'll have, I wonder if black street stories will have that same impact on other people. We saw American gangster. Well, think about like this.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Think about like this. What were, what were Italians also, you could argue, overrepresented in prior to the the release of all those films. Pizza. Correct. Music. They dominated popular music. Really?
Starting point is 01:11:15 Oh, you heard a guy named Frank Sinatra? Frank Sinatra was Italian? This guy is so good. I did not know. Frank Sinatra was Italian. Really? Wait, what were the Jersey boys? Were they Italian?
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yeah. Bobby Darren. I thought Frank Sinatra was Jewish. Bobby Darren was Jewish, wasn't he? Tony Bennett, I think, is Italian for sure. Tony Bennett is Italian for sure. Tony Bennett is a German. Italian?
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yes, you know. I hate this guy, bro. What? You're one of the people I'd probably hate more than anybody. Who else is Italian, yo? Leon and the Belmonts were Italian. What they sing? What they sing?
Starting point is 01:11:50 Yo, don't indulge him, bro. Just move on. Yo, you know who was fire, a fire Italian group? Shut up. Fucking Donatello, Raphael, Leonardo and Michelangelo. With that dude splinter on the base? That shit was fire. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I had no, I really didn't know, Frankson. I thought Frank Sinatra was Jewish straight up. What? I thought he was Jewish. Ain't he from Brooklyn? Hackensack or somewhere. Hackensack? Somewhere right over the river.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Maybe Jersey City. Frank Sinatra's from Jersey? Yeah. Definitely. Frankie Valley's the guy Jersey. Frankie Valley. I thought Frankie Valley was Latino. It's a fine line.
Starting point is 01:12:29 He is, right? I'm not making this up. Yo, why don't you get swallowed up? Go ahead. Go ahead. Frankie Valley. Why don't you get swallowed up? Google Frankie Valley.
Starting point is 01:12:37 his ethnicity, yo. He's the Italian. I don't have to Google. Frankie Val, he's very Italian. Very Italian? That's crazy. Anyway, point is, what was the point before you fucking derailed this whole goddamn thing in your knee-high, emberlands?
Starting point is 01:12:51 50 is going to, is the king of, Italian? Italian? Of course. 50 is the king of street. Oh, the point I was making was that Italians were so over-represented in pop music and pop culture, right? Then their stories are also represented in Hollywood culture. Right now,
Starting point is 01:13:07 Who's overrepresented for their percentage of people in the country and music? Black people. Black people. Hip hop, at least maybe before this year, was the popular genre of music. And now you're going to also see those stories told as well. So the setup looks beautiful. It looks amazing. It looks amazing.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what happens. I mean, there's so many stories out there. BMF story, 50 caught that, you know, and you can't even be mad at them because there's nobody in Atlanta who, you know, had the muscle TV and film-wise that 50 has garnered. You know what I mean? Like, I've heard plenty of people say they wanted to do the BMF story, but didn't get it done.
Starting point is 01:13:46 50 got it done. 50 needed to do the New York story. 50 need to do the one. And also that big studio that he just closed on. Did you hear about that? Was that, is that happening? Yeah, like he got to prove for it. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 01:13:59 50, you need to holl in my guy, Sean Penn, man. Sean Penn, formerly known as little Sean the rapper. when you talk about, you know, New York street stories, because I agree with you. There hasn't been like a classic New York street tale. I think Payton and full was the one. He is sitting on the New York wire. He is sitting on the New York wire.
Starting point is 01:14:19 What he told me that night is the New York wire. If it's about shit that happened in Queens when he was coming out. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's sitting on the New York. 100%. Say again? It's supposed to be like a playoff of it? Nah, you don't got to play.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Isn't Rayne Cadenon based on? No, Raising Canaan is based off 50 cents. character from power. I know, but I thought he added some of his I mean, he probably does a little bit. What I'm saying is there is a almost biopic. You could, you'd have to get permission and the rights. A lot of people, and there's
Starting point is 01:14:50 going to be a lot of stuff maybe exposed or shouldn't be, but. Now, it was some wild shit going down. Oh, my God. I'm going to tell you what up. Between Queens and Brooklyn, that's why I said, you got to hollet my man, Sean Penn. Because Sean Penn grew up, you know, in the Brooklyn era, the late
Starting point is 01:15:06 80s, 90s, when that shit was no joke. You know what I mean? How I would do it, how I would do it, if I'm him. Bro to burrow? Bro to burrow. Yeah, bro to burrow. So I would, you know how the wire went, oh, here is the hood, here's the school system, here's the docks, here's the police, whatever. So you start and the story can start in Queens. It can start with all these figures, these OGs, et cetera. You have other figures from these different burrows popping up so the characters are introduced, but the main stories over there in Queens. Then the next season can be main stories in Brooklyn, but you still have the Queens people popping it. Next can
Starting point is 01:15:38 Harlem. Next can be the Bronx, right? Like next can be whatever else it is and the final maybe can incorporate all them but there's an unbelievable story. What they say? You say New York got eight million stories. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Need to tell some of this shit. The great thing is you could almost do 50 wouldn't even have to do like one. He could do like how you see Marbles what if. You could do five different yeah you could do something new every episode. I love Marvel What If, right? Yeah, I should have.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Because in 30 minutes, I get a beginning, middle, and in it. Yeah. I mean, I get whole world saved in 30 minutes. You know what I'm saying? I don't even need a whole movie. You could do like a whole anthology series just based off New York Street stories. Totally. I just like the idea of, like, what I thought was so epic about Avengers is that they mapped this out decades ago.
Starting point is 01:16:33 And then each movie slowly pushed the story toward this moment. where all the storylines were going to collide, and then they executed it with perfection. Imagine you could do that with New York Street stories. Yes. Like, to me, that would be an epic undertaking, and you need guys that really know what they're doing with the storytelling,
Starting point is 01:16:56 because intertwining all those things, like putting these little Easter eggs that aren't going to pay off for three seasons. That's like some George R. Martin Game of Thrones shit. Like, imagine we had New York City Street Game of Thrones, It literally that detailed storytelling. Yeah. And it's there.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Like listen, you can't see here and tell me, you ever watch men's society? Fantastic. Boys in the Hood, fantastic. Like, you can get into that type of detail.
Starting point is 01:17:21 But here's the thing. He was telling me stories that, and I'm from New York, I'm born and raised in New York. As familiar as some of these characters are to maybe you grew up in Queens, you're aware of it, and even you're a little younger.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Alex grew up in Queens? I mean, Far Rock. Farragway. That is Queens. It's Queens, but it's a little bit removed from. The Queen's 50 talking about. I mean, GUNA was in Farah? Yeah, the tank tops.
Starting point is 01:17:47 No, no, no, not. We ain't even thought. This one 50 was boo-boo. Yeah. That was dudes like that. No, no. Running niggas off the street. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I guess what I'm trying to say is, what was that
Starting point is 01:18:02 trying to say? You said Alex, he said, he was a dude's running dudes out of the street. Oh, now you're doing. You're doing an Indiana, and now you're going. I was like this dude for the dudes. Wait, what was I just? Why did I bring that up? Because you were saying now Alex ain't really from the hood.
Starting point is 01:18:17 That's what you said. Oh, what did I say? What was I saying? I want to glorify that stuff. So you're right, Charlotte, man. What are you saying? Huh? What was I saying?
Starting point is 01:18:25 You was talking about how, you was talking about 50 in the stories from Queens. The shit he was talking about. You said you may be familiar with somebody. Oh, yeah. I didn't even know these dudes. Like, I'm from New York City. And there's some names I recognize. than others that I was like, I honestly, I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Nah, but 50 can do it. And he's going, now, what am I talking about? He can do it. 50 is going to do it. Yeah, it will be crazy. It's going to get done. It'll be crazy. It'll be crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Salute the fifth, man. I don't even think people would really appreciate what Fifth is done in the TV space, yo. You know how- It's hard to get shit made, it's hard to get one thing made. This man has gotten, I can't even remember how many seasons of power. The four shit with Tommy, raising Canaan, the, the, uh, the ghosts. series, BMF, fucking, what was this shit on ABC?
Starting point is 01:19:14 That was based on the dude from Mons Corner. Oh, the lawyer. Isaac Wright, Jr. Isaac Wright, Jr. flew to Isaac Ray. I know Isaac really well, man. Yeah, I bet. Good guy.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Do you want to talk about the politics? What happened in politics? Oh, Trump, landslide, young landslide. Wasn't a landslide, though. Stop it. Here's my thing, and I've said this a million times. I think Republicans right now are doing themselves a disservice by not pushing Trump to the side and putting Nikki Haley as the GOP frontrunner. And the reason I say that, because if you look at what happened in Iowa, 50% of Republicans in Iowa voted against Trump because fucking DeSantis had like 20-something percent and Nikki had like 19 almost 20%.
Starting point is 01:20:02 And they said that the people who voted for Nikki were mostly Democrats and independents. It's not a sure bet for Donald Trump in the general election. It's not even against sleepy goddamn Joe. Charleman. I'm trying to tell you. And it was the lowest turnout for a caucus ever in Iowa. Because there's a lot of people that's just like, I told you all already. There's some people who, 2024 is all about Trump, who's the criminal, Joe Biden, who's the coward, in the couch.
Starting point is 01:20:35 And a lot of people are not energized by a Trump-Biden rematch and they stay in home. It's the lowest turnout for a caucus in Iowa in years. It also was freezing cold so that can be part of it. It's freezing cold. Nah, it was like crazy. They're dealing with the Dragon Z out there. It's like it's not even like a. It's not even like a fuck.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Yeah. What the fuck is the Dragon Z? Dragon Z's balls on. Oh, you're fucking. Come on. Come on. These balls on your mouth. I thought that was a new fucking disease or something.
Starting point is 01:21:11 I was like, there's some new strain of COVID? I thought I gave it away because I started to smile. I started to smile. You also almost gave it away. See, look, 51% but then Ron to stand it's 20. And Morning Joe had a really good point. Morning Joe was like, if Barack Obama took four years off and he was basically the incumbent coming back,
Starting point is 01:21:34 he'd be like at 90-something percent in Iowa or some shit like that. Barack Obama wins this state in the general election in 2008. He wins the state in the general election in 2012. Trump comes in here, wins the, it comes in third of the Iowa caucus in 2016, but wins the state, turns it red in 2016, turns it red easily in 2020. So he's actually run here as a presidential candidate in the last two presidential cycles. He hasn't taken any time off, right? He's effectively the incumbent running in the Republican.
Starting point is 01:22:04 party. So if you thought about that, imagine Barack Obama has won, wins Iowa in 2008 and wins it in 2012. And now Barack Obama's running the Iowa caucuses in 2016. What would Barack Obama's margin have been in Iowa in the 2016 Democratic caucuses? Would have been, I would reckon, 95 percent? I mean, 85 percent. I mean, he would, one of the most popular Democratic presidents in history. Are we sure that? That's what he was saying. That's what he was saying. Like, Trump 51%. All I'm saying is it's not a short thing in a general election.
Starting point is 01:22:38 That's all I'm saying. There's a lot of baggage that comes with Trump. Of course, we got the 91 criminal charges and all of that shit like that. But I think a lot of women feel away about abortion, about Roe v. Wade getting taken away. I'm just saying if Republicans really want to win and win in a landslide.
Starting point is 01:22:54 They need to chill with that. Nikki might be the one. Why, Nikki's saying we're not touching that? What you mean? No, I'm just saying I think that Nikki comes with less baggage in a general election. and you already know Republicans going to fall in line. And if she can pick up some Democrats and some independents,
Starting point is 01:23:09 the only problem is that she doesn't capture the politically disillusioned voter. In other words, the voter who's upset at the system because she's a system quarterback. She's a part of the system. Yeah. So I think, and I think that there's a lot of concern about the system. I don't think they want to replace Biden with someone who is essentially just like Biden. Oh, we got, though. Well, we have Trompito.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Yeah, but Trump, you get Trump back in there, man. Don't you want World War III? We all just go down the blazer. It's going to be a revenge store. Like that's my whole thing. Like I can't do four years of revenge tour, bro. Like you got to get back to fucking making America great, bro. Like you got to have some policy, some legislation, something, bro.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Like, you can't go in there and just wage war on all your political enemies. Plus, I'm not going to have a job. He's going to shut the media to fuck down. You think? Oh, 100. He's already said that. What are he talking about? He said that already.
Starting point is 01:24:02 He said that. He said, I'm going to find a way. He said the press charges on the head of MSNBC. He was the same guy who wanted to get the motherfucking Lauren Michaels locked up, bro, because they made fun of him on SNL. What are we talking about? Good. That's fire.
Starting point is 01:24:19 It's all funny games that you make a joke about his daughter on stage. I'm not going to talk about, well, which one? I don't know, man. I just think Republicans are really dropping the ball on an opportunity. to really skrifting the party. You know what I mean? If you really want to take the party back from Trump, if it's really not the MAGA party, like y'all say.
Starting point is 01:24:43 So you like, you like, hey. I don't like her. I just think it's politically smart to do it. But we know what they're playing for. They're not playing for, you know, they're not playing for the next four years. They plan for forever. You put Trump in office.
Starting point is 01:24:57 So I know Iowa doesn't represent the rest of the country, but if she only got 20% and Trump got 50, you think that entire 50 is going to be like... Santa's got another 20 plus. 50% of all Republicans in Iowa voted against Trump. Yes, but also 50 voted for him with all the baggage that comes with it. Those people, like I said with Nikki, a lot of those people were Democratic and Independence. I think a lot of those people just stay home in the general election.
Starting point is 01:25:26 I just do. I just think a lot of those people just stay home. They had another statistic that said one third of Republicans in Iowa don't even like Trump. I think the vote in the Republican Party is it's Trump or nothing or anything but Trump. Those are the two votes. It's never usually like that though. I know. So it's a Republican. Republicans are usually fall in line, man. Yeah. So now if you have Nikki Haley, there's going to be those any Trump or nothing people that are going to stay home. So she won't win the general either. I don't know. Ah, too. God damn. I just down. I think Nikki's the safest bet. What you think? What you think Chris. I agree with Andrew.
Starting point is 01:26:07 I mean, I think a lot of the sentiment is not even directed at a particular candidate. It's just frustration. And I think, yeah, Descentus DeSantis at least is bucking the system a bit, and he kind of like resents the system. He's like a
Starting point is 01:26:23 super system guy. Not really in terms of like what he did in Florida. Like his decisions went against what the government wanted in Florida, or not what the Democratic government at the time. Yeah. He's probably to take more political chances. But he's also like been exposed as kind of a goofball. Right. So, and people don't like goofballs. I think Donald Trump is too risky and in general. I think it's the same level of
Starting point is 01:26:46 risk for Trump as it is Biden. I really do. I think both parties need to move away from both of them. I think Republicans need to move away from Trump. Democrats need to move away from Biden. I just think it's too much of a risk. If you're trying to win, it's a, I mean, it sounds ridiculous to say because it's duh, but it's a 50-50 toss-up with either one of. So who does the Democrats move to? I have no idea. They don't have no problem. Somebody better come up with something soon. Well, some, the hell. Me at the crossroads and you don't get lonely.
Starting point is 01:27:14 You just never know when you're dealing with people that age, man. I happen to think it might. You don't know. You're definitely my point. Think all these things you're dealing with you're not just dealing with goddamn. I had to scratch. God damn, bro. You got to scratch.
Starting point is 01:27:27 You worked yourself up about Nikki? This guy's great. This is a wild boy. This is one of the wildest boys ever in the history of goddamn boys. Nicky could get that pop-p-p-clos. This guy worked himself up and fucking went for it on the goddamn pod in front of the world. That's what I do. I had to adjust.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Jesus. I had to adjust. Chill out, Tiller. Jesus-co-right. Chill out, Taylor. Chell out, tell her. Chell out, calm down, y'all. I never seen no shit like that ever in my life.
Starting point is 01:27:50 That was insane. What I do? That was insane. I went for it. You fucking went for it. Right. What do you think? I got something that'll get you soft.
Starting point is 01:27:57 What do you think of Lord Nazexx apologizing the Christians? Us Christians don't care. Us Christians don't care. Apparently, they did. Us Christians don't care. We don't think about Launazex and we won't let, did you hear that? Us Christians don't care and we won't let Lois X's antics
Starting point is 01:28:22 frustrate us. Can I show you what he said though? Yeah, I saw what he said. But us Christians don't care. You can't go to double hell. You can't fault when you talk about Lord Naus X. I'm flurring. That is flirting.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Don't ever get it fucked up, yo. If you flirt, if you fart around another man, yo, that's flirting, yo. Come on, yeah. Okay, especially if you look him in the eyes, why that shit is still going. Yeah, while your buckles open. You looking at them? That's flirting. What?
Starting point is 01:29:07 What? Go to ask you an idiotic. Wait, have a question. When we got another ad too Yeah we got one more When the doctor Had to test you out Why you?
Starting point is 01:29:19 That shit was crazy I'm still not over that You did it Does your asshole quefe too Like how women What? Teller, Taylor, what are you saying right now? You know, you had never made a woman's
Starting point is 01:29:31 vagina quefe before? I just did Why are you farting someone? If you're queping, you need to get your vagina refurbished. That was a quee. Your vagina need renovations if it's making too much noise. That is true. The creaks.
Starting point is 01:29:48 It's too big. It's too big as hell. You got a creaky vagina. Big as hell. I can say nothing about me at all. Big as hell. All that air going in there. Then that shit just, whew, making all that noise.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Can't answer my question. If your car was making that sound, you take it to get checked. Take it in. Take it in. You need to take it. If your tire did that, you would take your tire to get plugged up immediately, yo. Transmissions. Straight up.
Starting point is 01:30:12 If you heard that noise. You would just flirting with little nice, like, now y'all don't want to talk about it. If you heard that noise anywhere in your house, you're going to get it fixed. If your dishwasher did that shit, you would go get it fixed, yo. You would. Okay, so why when your vagina makes noises like that, y'all just chalk it up? You know what I mean? No, go get that shit fixed, yo.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Ask the doctor-wise making noise. And when you end the doctor's office, he said, what kind of noises are making? You know technically that means y'all dig isn't big enough because it's too much air. Oh, that's what you tell you. No, technically that means you need to be refurbished. Yeah, it could be that you don't have any elasticity in your shit. Your vagina wasn't always that big. Or you know, why is it so big now?
Starting point is 01:30:55 Or you got a skinny dick. Why is your vagina so big? But why isn't your vagina snatch? I don't know. First of all, y'all not talking about me. I'm just saying snitch is on a tampon. Why? Maybe it just is slow to snatch.
Starting point is 01:31:06 You got slow snatch. The matchback is slow. You don't know what I'm talking about me. Your vagina opens up like that big shit off never-ended-in-in-in-story. You have seen that big-ass shit that they used to ride on never-ending story? Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? E-Trey-U.
Starting point is 01:31:17 What's it called? I hate it. That movie. What, he-Trey-U is the star? Never-ending vagina, man. Cweefs forever. Let's play some bills, Taylor. To you want to answer my question?
Starting point is 01:31:30 What question do you want to answer? Leave Queen Lequefa alone. I was thinking that too, and I didn't say it. That's so funny. I was thinking it as well. Let Chief Kweef have her a moment. That's not, first of all, you, y'all tried it.
Starting point is 01:31:44 If you got a group of the tribe called Kweef. It is. Oh, he's on fire. That guy's on fire right now. Don't stop. Do not stop. Oh. You don't want to talk about your ass, though. Why don't we talk about that guy you beefing with all the time,
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Starting point is 01:33:35 to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor Ngang. Okay, asking idiots. Ooh, Mr. Cruz says if you would have one conspiracy answer for certain, what would it be? I think I know your shows.
Starting point is 01:33:54 What would it be? One conspiracy answered for certain. Yeah, one conspiracy answer for certain. What would it be? I mean, holy shit, there's a lot. I mean, aliens. That's my top number one. Yeah, who built the pyramids, JFK.
Starting point is 01:34:10 JFK, be really interesting. What's the conspiracy with JFK? Who shot him? I thought they knew who shot him. Separate the week from the ops. I thought they knew who shot him. I mean, that's the conspiracy. No.
Starting point is 01:34:24 They don't know who shot JFK? No, they don't. They said multiple shooters, potentially. There was only one to the head, though, right? He got ripped up. My man got blasted. Clubbed up. Damn.
Starting point is 01:34:40 They're going to change that story in the history books anyway. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so there's a bunch. I mean... They're going to say he was just off of a drive. He wanted to clear his head. Yo.
Starting point is 01:34:50 This guy. Yo. That's the way shit is going now. That's the way shit is going, bro. That's how that story is going to be told in a few years. Watch my words, especially in Florida. What about, what about Abraham Lincoln? How are they going to tell his story?
Starting point is 01:35:05 He was too tall. He was too tall. He was straight. That's right. It wasn't even meant for him. It wasn't even fucking meant for him, you know. Wasn't even meant for him, man. Not even a little bit.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Mine would definitely be extraterrestrials, though. Why? 100%. Just because I want to know, I want to know about Roswell. I want to know by Area 51. And I think that's the same shit, though. I want to know about Roswell in Area 51. I want to know what's going on.
Starting point is 01:35:30 what they call the new area 51 in Alaska. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want to know. I want to know. I want to know what happened in Miami and the mall for real. I want to know how many times they visited us. I want to know if that whole shit where Richard Nixon was true. Because remember there's this thing about how Richard Nixon actually had a meeting with extraterrestrials.
Starting point is 01:35:48 And they, no, it was Nixon. It was Nixon. Reagan said, I forgot, but it was during the speech. And he was having a conversation to Russia. And he was like, what if we had? had a real threat from another planet. We would have to come together. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish
Starting point is 01:36:12 if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you, is not an alien force already among us? But Nixon, they said, had a meeting with extraterrestrials, and they did like this whole treaty. It's going crazy You're going your ass Why is it's crazy That shit is going crazy
Starting point is 01:36:36 No, you just Make the sound effect loud on here too I want people to be able to hear What the fuck we're hearing Like this is insane Why is that insane It is I respect your freedom
Starting point is 01:36:47 To fart anyway though I do Wait why you wouldn't do it No I don't fart in my clothes What? Tightness I just don't fart in my clothes So you hold it in all day? I'm not really
Starting point is 01:36:58 really, I think it's a habit. Like, my butthole knows when to fart. Like, I fart in the bathroom when I'm taking the shit or sometimes in the shower. I don't fart in my clothes. You never get the urge of fart at all. No. You're an alien. Non-stop.
Starting point is 01:37:12 You're the alien. That's great. Didn't you say your farts are out of control now because of... Yeah, but I didn't say I fart in my clothes. I would think that means you're firing your clothes now. No. Fart while I'm on the toilet. Fart when I'm in the shower.
Starting point is 01:37:28 And I can just feel it. Like, it's just so, like... I feel like you know when it's silent or not. You don't know when it's silent. Me? I can control the smell. Yeah, the smell is the crazy part. But I can control that.
Starting point is 01:37:38 If you guys want it to not smell, I can keep the smelling. You just... You just blame it on other people. No, I can't. You're so fucking juvenile. Why this podcast go juvenile? Oh, what about Epstein? Of course I'd want to know that.
Starting point is 01:37:50 What? What do we need to know? Who's on there? Who's on it? Who was he working for? Oh, like who? I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:00 No, that shit stink. You bugging, Cholks. God damn. Kohl the fuck on. Okay, Raphael. That's not like that drag. That's that drag-z-boy. That's that shit that fucking gets you sick.
Starting point is 01:38:13 The underscore corner says, can y'all combine might? God. Damn, Andrew Chil. You smell that shit, Taylor? God. Are you going to. Taylor.
Starting point is 01:38:27 We're going to open up. People gonna think it's you, yo. They are. That's it. Smell crazy. Can y'all combined might beat up the rock? Yeah. Yeah, we'll fuck the rock up.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Yeah. No disrespect, rock. We fuck with you. With all due respect. Yeah, yeah, we got you. You can't be both of us. We're world-class fighters. I don't see it.
Starting point is 01:38:47 This ain't wrestling. This ain't wrestling where we wait in our turn. We get natural. We're getting after. And the thing with the rock? I don't see it, guys. All right. I don't see it.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Listen, push come to shove. He's huge. And? I don't know if you've seen him in person. He's huge. And we're not going to fight fair. Yeah. Why would you think we're going to fight fair?
Starting point is 01:39:05 Why do you think he's going to fight fair? Because he's the rocks. Two on one. Yeah. If Andrew jump on his back, put him in a chokehold, you know I'm going. Below the belt, baby. What are you going to do? I'm going below the belt.
Starting point is 01:39:20 That's what a vulnerability is at. I'm going down with a vulnerability is at, okay? Wait, what are you going to do there, though? He'll feel like a rock bottom when I finished with his. his ass. God damn it, Charleney. What the fuck is going on here? Yo, stop the pie before
Starting point is 01:39:35 Charlottoman comes out the closet. He just turned into a urologist. Yeah, he really did. Yo, what the fuck? I'm telling you. He won't know. We'll fuck the rock up. Salute to the rock, though. We love to rock. Love you, rock is a great guy, but it's just a hypothetical question. Me and Andrew together. Come on, yo. You're getting beat up.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Uh, ooh. Shultz, which rapper would you do a skit for their album. Andre 3000. Mm. You'd be farting? Yep. Instead of playing the flute,
Starting point is 01:40:06 you'd be farting your ass off? No, there's a bunch of rappers, I would. I was on one somebody's album. Who's album? They used a clip for me. I can forget the guy's name. I think he's one of Coles writers. It's too easy, man.
Starting point is 01:40:21 It's too fucking easy. Let's do one more. Okay. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Once one trait, significant others' parents like most about you. Oh, that's from Nino Blue. What's up, Nino?
Starting point is 01:40:37 What's the movie? Oh, what's a movie or franchise you want to make a comeback? I like that. That was a better one. We could do that one, but there was a good one up here we should do, too. This is a good one. What is one valuable thing you have learned from one another? Ooh, Latoya Maas.
Starting point is 01:40:52 What is one valuable thing you have learned from one another? What Andrew, I would say, perseverance. definitely perseverance and definitely betting on yourself. Even though I've always known these things, it's so interesting when you see somebody truly rolled a dice on their self in a unique way. Because for everything Andrew did, it could have backfired. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:41:28 Like, if you make a commitment to say, fuck that, throw in my middle finger to cancel culture, I'm going to start this shit called flagrant, and I'm going to be as flagrant as possible. It's for all the loose booty assholes. That's right. And I'm going to do this shit. It could have worked.
Starting point is 01:41:44 It could not have worked. And I don't know if you did this on purpose, but it started with sports. Yeah. It then turned into what it's turned into now. So for me, it would be perseverance and just a reminder to bet on yourself because
Starting point is 01:41:59 Andrew did everything that they tell you to do in Hollywood you know what I mean? Get the agent going to scroll you know see what roles are out there for you yada yada yada and you know
Starting point is 01:42:15 this was doing the whole diversity equity and inclusion way it was no place for a straight white male you know and so Andrew said fuck it I'm gonna make a place for straight white males to feel comfortable and not even just straight white male just people period to feel comfortable yeah people who were just tired of the just normal politically correctness yeah normal people yeah
Starting point is 01:42:37 just normal and um god-fearing people and it worked yeah in a major major way i would say for charlemagne it's um you say you could be a man of the people or a man of the industry but you can't be both you would always say that and that really stuck with me that's real and uh Until you create your own injury. Exactly. Then you, I mean, listen, there are times you can always work with them, but your priority should be the people always. And I think that that has always resonated with me.
Starting point is 01:43:09 That was maybe the best piece of, I don't even know if it was advice. It was just something, a game I soaked up. And it was just like, yeah, you have to make the things. You have to create for yourself, but with the intentions of satisfying the people with that thing you create, not satisfying the execs or whatever, because that's going to be the most authentic version
Starting point is 01:43:27 of what you create. And that will set you free. That, like, completely liberated me. That's right. That's what I said. My intention always now for the rest of my life is just to be a service, man. Wherever I can be a service,
Starting point is 01:43:39 that's what I'm here to do. That's it. Scroll down, what was the one we was about to answer? What movie or what franchise you want back? No, the other one, the next one. What movie or TV franchise would you want to bring back? Easy call. Girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:43:57 Too thick and thin. Greatest fucking TV show ever. And they did not give us any closure whatsoever. There's so many loose ends to tie up. Okay? Do Tony and Joan become friends again? Does Tony come back? Does Joan get married?
Starting point is 01:44:14 Does Lynn's music career take off? What, Taylor? Why don't you try to produce a movie movie movie? Mm-hmm. You just sum it all up in a film. A film of miniser. You know, Mara Brock Akeal wants to do a film. Tracy Ellis Ross wants to do a miniseries.
Starting point is 01:44:33 You know, I interviewed the whole cast of girlfriends about three, four years ago. Tracy Ellis Ross, Persia White, Jill Marie Jones, and Golden Brooks. And Tracy wants it to be a mini-series. I mean, as I said, either one, either one, Mara said she got the story. She knows how she wants to close it. She knows how she wants to put a bow on it. I don't see, it's a no-brainer for me. It's owned by CBS Paramount.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Paramount Plus, y'all need that. Y'all saw what the Best Man holiday or whatever the new Best Man was called, Best Man Final Chapters. You saw what that did for NBC Peacock. Girlfriends would do that for y'all times a billion. So I just don't understand what's the hold up. I saw Kelsey Grammar recently because he's the executive producer. Kelsey Grandma said that they having talks about it.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Make it happen. Make it happen, man. That's the one. Girlfriends is the one. That is the one. It checks off all the boxes that y'all like to be checked off in a nice, organic way. What about you, Shows?
Starting point is 01:45:32 What would you bring back? Whee. I don't know. That's a great question. I don't know. Seinfeld. Yeah. They are bringing Seinfeld back.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Shut up. No, I'm dead ass. Look it up. I'm dead at. They're bringing Seinfeld back. No, they're not. Google it right now, Seinfeld reboot. Why am I going to watch that?
Starting point is 01:45:56 And after you Google it, I want you to say you were right. again Alex Cougall it. They're doing a Seinfeld reboot. No, that's not. I'm telling you, they're doing a Seinfeld reboot. Yeah. No, the Seinfeld revival isn't confirmed. I know Jerry. So now...
Starting point is 01:46:17 I know Jerry. I'm telling you, it's coming back. Maybe I wasn't supposed to spill that. You know who told me it was coming back? Michael Richards. Did he really? Yes. He said, y'all niggas better watch. He's a bad at him. He's a nigger. He's your nigger. He's not a nigger. He's my digger! All right,
Starting point is 01:46:36 as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit,
Starting point is 01:46:45 you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiotist podcast. Thank you for listening.

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