The Brilliant Idiots - Nuke 4 Nuke
Episode Date: September 9, 2022This week Charlamagne and Andrew join together once again, to discuss some trending topics such as Kanye West being upset over Adidas, and you know Andrew Schulz hates a complainer and had some things... to say about his deal with the company. Next, Mouse Jones joines the conversation where they began with their thoughts on Aries Spears and Tiffany Haddish pedophilia skit resurfacing, that suddenly turned into a conversation about where to draw the line between acting and child pornography. Within that discussion they get a little bit deeper about who should be able to get redemption, if did a crime. Furthermore, during this episode you also find out some interesting things the Scottish allegedly invented, only the "Brilliant Idiots" way! ********************************************************** Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://www.blackeffect.com/ Empty Thoughts Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-zRsExS9E0VBmwb9Cekdug/featured https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empty-thoughts-show/id1622292632 Empty Thoughts IG/Tik Tok https://www.instagram.com/emptythoughtsshow/ https://www.tiktok.com/discover/empty-thought-show Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I love the premise of this show.
Smart people talking about dumb shit.
I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit.
Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby.
Yep, Shalemaine the guy.
Andrew Shultz.
We are the brilliant idiots.
In this week's episode of the Brilliant Idiot's podcast is brought to you by us.
We don't have any pre-rego.
Okay.
So we could just start the show.
Shout out Adidas.
Salute to Adidas, man.
Even though I'm wearing all Puma.
I got Puma sneakers on.
Saluta.
Adidas.
Adidas.
So what happened?
I'm at Birdie Man, Alex said Birdie Man.
I get out of Birdie Man.
I get the first text message I come in from my friend Julie that goes,
what did Charlemagne do?
I go, oh, no.
And then it's Kanye West thing where he just goes.
Charlemagne and Chris Jenna.
I don't know.
He just, get your popcorn ready.
I don't know what Kanye was talking about.
I have no idea.
But he does that all the time.
Whenever he goes into his rant modes on Instagram, somehow or another.
My name is going to come up in the rant.
Yeah, which is interesting.
You know what I mean?
I actually, this was a while,
a few weeks ago, because me and Kanye go back and forth, right?
He'll call me about something.
I won't agree.
And he said this on his interview with Jason Leon Hollywood Unlock.
We'll argue, we'll curse at each other, blah, blah, blah.
But I did, I reached out to him a few weeks ago just to see how he was doing.
Yeah.
You know, I didn't hear it back because he changes his number all the time.
But I let his people know, like, yo, man, tell him I'm sending him positive energy, whatever, whatever.
But I don't know where that came from.
Nor do I care.
It made it seem like you were talking to Chris Jenner or something like that.
He talks about me like I'm one of the elites.
It's actually kind of flattering, bro.
Like it's always the Clintons, Charlemagne, and the Jenners.
Yo, it's really, I'm telling you, man, sometimes you don't understand how people perceive you.
But I'm like, damn, if I'm one of the elites, are they, are they the elites?
Would they be considered an elite?
I mean, you're an elite.
No, no, no, no.
I'm talking about, like, can get your got elite.
Like, yeah.
I think you know way more people that can get people got than the elites.
Yeah, but get you got it and nobody knows.
Like make it look like an accident.
This is.
Oh.
That's different.
Yeah, the heart attack.
I got a heart attack.
No, no, no, no, no.
Come on.
The people we're talking about, come on, man.
That's different.
That's CBC, bro.
You know what that CBC is.
What is it?
I ain't talking about the congressional of black car because I'm talking about that Clinton body count.
Oh, Clinton body.
Yeah.
Well, no, but that's how you know you.
because when the people you beef with,
they don't get killed, they kill themselves.
Ooh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or are you make it look like that.
Well, that's what I meant.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think they actually kill themselves.
No, but I'm serious.
You could be that elite too,
or somebody's like, yeah, I might as well.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, you send somebody, like, you probably should, bro.
You don't happen anymore.
You don't happen anymore.
Take note.
Take note, like, cut it with the drive-bys.
They got to be dried by a heart attack.
You know what I mean?
So then we drove by pretty quick
and then he just grabbed his heart.
Somebody had a heart attack
just thinking about what you might do to him.
You know what I mean?
Seriously, yo, that's a great point though.
That's the next level.
The elites don't kill people.
Their enemies die.
They jump off of buildings.
That's right.
They have, you know, an aneurism.
I read something.
In Russia, there's been eight businessmen
over the last six months
who have either committed suicide
or just had like some random accident.
And I'm like, really?
Yeah.
Like really?
In January.
I'm like, really?
Yeah.
I guess you really believed that?
Yeah.
But, hey, when you control the press, this is what I said happened.
Yeah.
This is true.
This is true, bro.
I really don't know what's going on with Kanye.
I don't know what the stuff is with Adidas.
What is the thing?
Adidas wanted to make a sneaker like one of his designs, but.
And I can understand that.
Without his approval, I guess.
Yeah.
If you created a design, which we know Yeezy has been very instrumental in doing as far as we know.
If he's created these designs and then, you know, Adidas is coming in, like, creating sneakers with the same design.
I don't know how that happens unless they contractually are able to do that.
I mean, I would imagine they're contractually able to.
That's what I would think.
Of course.
Now, listen, I don't know the contract, but I imagine they're contractually able to do it.
but he doesn't like that.
So he's using public scrutiny and shame.
Yeah.
And the reality is,
is like, sneakers are hype.
None of these sneakers are so high performance.
Like, sneakers have become so good
that, like, you can run in pretty much anything.
You'll be okay.
You can play basketball and pretty much anything.
You'll be okay.
So now it's all about hype.
And you hire Kanye for hype, right?
So if Kanye shuts down the hype on a sneaker
and calls it a knockoff easy,
who the fuck is buying that?
Yeah, but I mean,
the thing about Yeezy,
and I salute Yeezy,
What Kanye is built with Easy is incredible.
I mean, you know, I think they generated like $1.3 billion for Adidas last year.
But Adidas is a $25 billion company.
Like, Adidas is this sneaker in apparel line, a company of soccer, bro.
The world's biggest sport, like all the biggest football players in the world are with Adidas.
Like, once again, they're a $25 billion company.
Not saying that Kanye didn't bring them so much cultural relevancy.
for a certain audience, he absolutely positively did.
For sure.
But it'll be okay.
They're going to be okay, but like they weren't popping in America.
Like I think Kanye made Adidas really pop in America.
They haven't been popping America since run DMC, bro.
I mean, but we never stopped wearing, I mean, at least for me,
I never stopped wearing the shell to old and the Adidas.
You're 70 years old.
That's right.
That's your generation.
It is.
I never stopped.
One, two.
That's right.
My Adidas.
I never stopped wearing the shell toes in the track suits.
But I do agree.
Kanye absolutely positively made Adidas culturally relevant to a certain generation, a certain
demographic.
But it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
Yeah.
It's just an interesting strategy.
It's like...
Is it, though?
Well, I think it's...
I mean, you saw Dave Chappelle do it with Netflix, I think.
Didn't do it like this.
Well, the approaches are different.
Dave was on stage.
Dave actually said,
may I please have my whatever back
after explaining his position.
Right.
You know,
direct.
Yeah, he explained his position.
Yeah.
And then he told people not to watch it.
Yeah.
And what Kanye is basically doing to saying,
we're not buying that.
We're not wearing that.
That's not a easy.
That's a fake easy.
Which is in effect,
you know,
basically saying, hey, don't buy it.
And at the end of the day,
if Adidas is putting out a sneaker,
that people aren't going to buy.
They just show it.
So he's a lot of power.
I think a lot of that orange and yellow shit
that they keep posting with the ex-over.
You like it?
That shit looked kind of fire.
I probably wouldn't get it
because it's not a Yeezy.
Yes.
But the design of it
and the color way kind of fire.
Exactly.
It's the Chrysler 300.
Easey as the Phantom.
Because they couldn't afford the Phantom.
There you go.
I just wonder if it's like,
well, I think Kanye has a percentage
of the company, right?
Didn't they give him like a huge?
I think it's a royalty.
He gets like 15% royalty.
On Yezzi.
itself? On just easy, not Adidas, on
Yeezy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Easy is
a subsidiary inside
of Adidas. But I mean
I think the number's 15%
I could be wrong, so that means Adidas
is the other 85, but Adidas is doing
everything else. They're doing the manufacturing, they're
doing the distribution, you know, they're doing the
promotion, the marketing, even though there's probably
no bigger marketing than Kanye just posting on
his Instagram page. You know what I mean?
Yeah. Like, I don't know. I just don't know how
it plays out. It is weird, though,
because it's one of those situations where it's like, you took the
bag, bro. You wanted the money. You took the money. And then it became incredibly successful.
And now you crying. Yeah. And it's just like you, you took the bag and then I'm not 100% certain,
but I imagine that when you sell your IP and you sell your product.
The deed is definitely owns the IP, which is why they're able to continue to do the colorways,
and continue to redistribute other brands, other sneakers that he's already done. I'm sure they own the IP.
And that's what you give up when you agree to.
take the bag and you got a great bag and that deal was brilliant the way he did it. And I think
it made him a billionaire. It's still brilliant. And he still gets to make his stuff. But that is
the cost of doing that deal. If you wanted to do it by yourself and do all the infrastructure and
everything by yourself, maybe you couldn't have. Maybe you couldn't have. I think he maybe tried
before when he was earlier in fashion and wasn't a success. There's no question now he probably
could be because he's sad as such immense success. But that is the cost of the deal. It's kind of
annoying, you keep seeing this happen over and over again, where people take the bag and then
they complain about the rules that come with the bag. And the problem I have with that,
because you're absolutely right, is that nobody seems to have like consistency, even with
how we perceive these things. I remember everything. So I remember when there was the rants and
the raves about, I need infrastructure. I need somebody to help me design. And Adidas is where you
chose to go.
You chose rules.
And by the way, even if you didn't choose those rules, you can negotiate your rules.
You're still Kanye at the end of the day.
Yes.
You're Kanye.
So a lot of this stuff that, you know, you might be complaining about.
I feel like you could have probably got negotiated in the beginning.
You could have went back and negotiated after.
Like once, it's like you're an athlete, right?
You're with a team.
You know you're going to have to resign.
They would rather resign you earlier if they know you're a fucking superstar.
Oh, that's a good analogy because it's like what he's doing now is kind of like what
NFL players do because he's under contract, I think, until I think I read
2006. So he's like, no, I need to be renegotiating now. I see how much money,
how much motherfucking money y'all making. So I'm going to hold out. And to be
honest with you, I understand his perspective. And if I'm someone who wears Hezies,
I want what Kanye wants because you're protecting. I want what Yeh wants. Is that a thing?
Well, no, it's Drake. I want with Kyle's. I want what, I like what Drake likes. Oh, I like with
Drake like, but I'm so old. I'm like, is that a thing? I guess like if I wear Yeasies, right?
I don't want a fake Easy floating around by the same company because it's going to devalue my
easies. Like every time I see like a team Jordan, yeah, that kind of looks like a Jordan,
you're like, why do we even have this around? Like you have a Walmart version of the sneaker that
like we all love and cherish? That's, and that's disrespectful to Kanye because it's like,
that means Adidas doesn't look at Kanye. It doesn't look at Easy as a luxury brand. Well, they do
and they're trying to create the, what is the opposite?
The cheaper version?
They are, and they're trying to use the equity that he's built.
And that's why you purchase.
But would they ever do that to a, if it was a luxury brand,
you think they'd make a knock-off Gucci?
I mean, Lexus got Toyota.
Usually most brands have like a luxury and then a mid-level.
I mean, Team Jordan got Team Jordan.
You know, I'm sure there's a version with like Nike and then just regular.
And it's a really smart thing.
It's like you use the equity of that one that's hard to buy.
and it's hard to get and it sells out everywhere
and then you have a more accessible version of it.
It's a great business,
but I can also see as someone who just wants a luxury brand.
Like if you just had Gucci,
you're not going to have Gucci regular.
Gucci regular.
I see why he's frustrated,
but you also took the deal.
You wasn't frustrated when you got a billion dollars
in your fucking bank.
And that's my thing too.
Like, you know, everybody,
we always want to have respect for Kanye
and the things he's done in music
and the things he's done in fashion.
But it's like, man,
when you're
when you're good
when Kanye is good
slavery was a choice
we're too hung up on race
you know
we shouldn't just always be so focused on race
boy but when things don't go right
for Kanye
oh now of a sudden he's so
oppressed and he's so marginalized
do you know what I mean
and the white man is doing them wrong
and now you're talking to your wife
and you're saying things like
why do you get to have all to say so
Because you're half white.
Well, guess what, man.
Guess what?
Marrying half white women is a choice.
Right.
Okay.
That is just the reality of the situation.
Do we need Dr. Umar to speak on?
Do we need Dr. Umar to have a conversation with our good brother Kanye?
I would love for you to moderate that.
I would love nothing more than for you to moderate, go.
One question is a moderator.
Okay.
Dr. Umar, Johnson.
Yeah.
Could you please explain all good brother Kanye West why marrying half white women is a choice?
I am totally against it and I want to make sure you understand why.
It's not because we have a name for it, the Snow Bunny Crisis.
Okay.
I am against the Snow Bunny crisis and I want your white listeners to understand because people
be trying to say stuff like he's the Black Hitler.
I'm not the Black Hitler.
I am in no way interested in hurting or harming the life of any human.
White, Asian, Chinese, I believe in respect in everybody.
The reason I'm against interracial marriage envy in Charlemagne is because marriage is an economic contract.
Most women do not marry down in status.
They marry up.
Have you ever seen a rich white woman marry a broke-ass black man?
No, you have not, and you never will.
Because marriage ain't about love.
It's not colorblind.
And it is totally economic.
This man has been cursed by the snow bunnies.
There's nothing we could do to save him.
Yeah, it's just scrambling.
And listen, he does it every time.
And I don't even want to say people fall for it.
People just buy into it.
Yeah.
Like he's got everybody posting like, it's a black square.
No, for real.
Remember.
Remember when everybody was posting the Black Square?
And it's like everybody's posting that Adidas X-out.
Oh, is that a thing now?
Yes.
Oh, wow.
Everybody was doing it yesterday.
So it's like, listen, man, if they did steal his idea,
it's not stealing.
Exactly.
That's the key.
I don't know if it is, though.
We have to look into that.
I cannot believe.
I truly cannot believe the amount of decisions.
that you have to go through
in order to put something in production
and then the contact with the factory
and then getting the blanks made
and the materials ready
and then processing all of it
especially with all the what is it called like
you know
we have the problems getting things
oh supply chain
supply chain everything like making sure all that's good
getting them into production
I cannot believe
that they would just overlook a fact
that they're not allowed to do it
yeah and I don't think a multi-billion dollar company
would do that
because they know that's an easy lawsuit.
It's not like Kanye's broke.
You know what I'm saying?
Kanye could sue the shit out of Adidas if he wanted to
if they were doing something that wasn't, you know, in the contract.
Here's a question I have.
I thought that Kanye had 15% of the whole company.
I didn't realize it was a easy loyalty thing because.
I mean, I could be wrong.
I thought it was that he gets 50% of the royalties.
Can you look that up, Alex?
Maybe I thought it was because he got.
And maybe he gets it.
Because if he gets a percentage of the whole company,
I bet the company's thinking,
why is this guy mad?
You're going to get a piece of every one of these fake easy we put out.
I did see him, no, it's not that.
He don't get none of that money.
But if he did, if he did, that's what I thought.
I thought he got a piece of Adidas.
No, no, I think it's just for the Yeezy brand.
So under the partnership, Kanye retains 100% ownership of the Yeezy brand with full creative
control over.
Oh, word.
So he owns DiPeda.
Yeah.
Where you got that from?
Sight your source.
I mean, I was Google.
Google.
It's not, they don't have a website or nothing?
Interesting.
That's a great deal then.
So listen, if that's the case, he has every right to be met.
He has 100% ownership of the easy brand.
Yep.
Ah, the sneakers are.
Mouse, get on the mic, mouse.
Why you got a pause, man?
Show love to your brother.
Why do you got to pause?
Why are you got to pause, man?
That shouldn't be a pause.
You said the sneakers on the-
So the sneakers that we're talking about.
So he started complaining when Adidas went crazy and they did the restock a few months ago.
And then they was releasing like new colorways.
New colorways.
He didn't approve.
They've been doing the sandals.
Yeah.
So that's not easy, right?
The, what is that?
Like, Y, Z, Y.
Like, that's not easy.
Okay.
That's a, that's the Yeezy sneaker under Adi.
We know that, yeah.
The Yeezy brand is those clothes, like the paper machet clothes looking like shit.
Like, yeah.
But aren't the sneakers?
Aren't the sneakers easy?
Those are, that's the Yee Z sneaker for Adita.
But it's not under Yeezee.
So, hold on like the 750s and all that, aren't you?
That's Adidas.
I don't believe that.
No, no, I 100% believe that.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
So you mean you tell me all Kanye West sneakers are not with Adidas?
They're all with Adidas.
Yes.
But those aren't, that's not covered underneath the Yeezy.
Hold on.
I thought the knockoffs weren't under Yeezy.
If you go, if you go look at the Yeezy site, if you go look at the Yeeys site
or if you like going stock as well, you're looking for Yeezy,
you're going to pull up a whole different thing than those sneakers that were just released
with all the new colorways and that he's complaining about it.
So that's the difference.
Yeah, I'm not...
So if he owns 100% of Yee Z, yeah,
they can't do anything with that.
Oh, you're talking about Y, ZY.
He can't do nothing with...
Boom, okay.
They can't do it.
They can't do anything with that.
Got you, got you, got you.
But Y, E, Z Y, Z Y, the sneaker,
everything's sneaker that comes on that?
That's Adidas.
Okay.
And that's pretty much what we've all been saying,
like, you sign that deal.
You sign a deal, bro.
I'm tired of this shit.
You sign a deal.
You know, why don't you boss up and buy yourself out of it,
yeah?
Why don't you boss up?
Buy yourself back
You can't
Buy yourself back is crazy
Yeah
But I get what you
Everything
Show's just saying
It's true
But you know
Like you said
If you wanted
infrastructure
And it was infrastructure
you didn't have
And you do a deal
With a company
That gives you
That kind of infrastructure
You know what I mean
I mean
I guess at this point
It's all you can do
Is get people to repost
you on
You know
Social media
And I think that's the waste
That's the waste
Right
Like you could use that
I mean like you're really going through shit.
I'm buying them shits, bro.
I told you the orange.
I'm buying them.
Not a R1.
They're like,
I ain't, Mao.
They don't use these, though.
If they were yeas?
Oh, you're talking about the laces?
Hold, let me show you these.
The laces wave runners are crazy.
Hold on, let me show you these.
These are ones I'm talking about.
You know the ones that everybody
kept posting with the X-N-
So initially the sneaker doesn't have a lace.
Adidas released a new version
with the actual laces going through
and that's crazy.
Yes.
Hold on.
Let me see that.
This right here.
These right.
It looks like a Batman.
Like one of those Batman carts.
Let me see.
Yeah, that's terrible.
You don't like these?
That's terrible.
Let me see that shit.
If them shit was Jesus.
Look at Drew.
God, dude.
For Halloween coming to, bro?
The black and orange color away?
Halloween color.
What?
Are you getting in you right now?
No, listen.
The Halloweenzies?
Yeah, but no.
Listen, the Hallelujahs?
You wouldn't wear the Hallezyz?
I wouldn't wear the Haleezy, bro.
Don't shit.
This is fire.
No, these are fire, dude.
Fires.
Those are fire.
Bro, you can, listen, you can wear those with Kanye's merch and be a straight fly zombie.
Yes.
You know what I'm saying?
You'll be a fly zombie for Halloween.
Now, these are really fire if you think about it.
You don't like the holidays?
Why do you have to think about it?
If it's not fire, if you have to think about it.
Some show, like, you know, like, oh, it's really fine.
These are for intellectuals, bro.
It's for intellectuals, bro.
Listen, this is, this is, this is, this is.
more European, a lot of Americans don't get this shit.
But this shit right here, bro.
Via.
Yeah, I live in America.
I'm telling you, I'm seeing it's right on time for Halloween, yo, black and orange.
Coveraway, bro.
Halloween right around the corner.
John was witness.
I don't celebrate.
I'm trying to tell you.
No, I don't like you show him.
Fire.
This shit is straight.
It looks like a hero.
It looks like somebody.
How can I be homophobic?
Bye.
What?
By the way, by the way, Yeezy.
I mean, Adidas is slipping by not letting needs be a Yeezy, though.
These shit were a Yeezy.
You know.
He don't want it.
He said, nah.
Yeah, but he's coming off.
I don't think, I don't think it's not that he doesn't want it.
I think it's just the fact that he feels like,
yo, y'all biting my shit, which I get.
No, but I think he's jealous that they improved it.
I think, I think that they made a more fire sneaker,
and he's trying to shut it down.
Now, how do we know Kanye's team and him didn't design this?
And this is all a PR spin.
Look at that and look at the other sneaker.
Look at the, I don't know.
Adidas, but the fucking
those slippers
that just came out.
They came out of, right.
That's all that is.
They just brought together
and put a lace through it.
Yep.
And they needed a
same exact same.
That's what they needed,
bro.
I hated the fact that they had it.
And they put a,
it looks like they just put a,
it looks like they put a hard.
It's got crazy.
I can even think about that, bro.
Yo, you're right.
Yeah.
This is too,
this is too easy sandals
welded together, bro.
And I don't know if they put a hard
soul at the bottom.
Bro.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow, bro.
I stand with Ye on this one, bro.
Shut up.
Yo, wow.
You and Chris Jenner, bro.
Wow.
Me and Chris Jenna stand with Yeh.
Listen, man, I hope Kanye gets, like, like any creative, I hope Kanye gets what he deserves.
Send him healing energy.
If he deserves it.
And send him healing energy.
I didn't go, I used to get wild yeasies.
I know I got cut off that goddamn.
Yeah.
Oh, that Pete Davis will support.
That's right.
I'm going to still support my guy.
Now you don't got no Uis.
Well.
And now you're looking.
That's my body knockoffs.
Now you're back with Puma?
No, no, no.
I'm going to tell you something.
All jokes aside, all jokes aside, the reason I love Puma and the reason I love Yeezy is because you got 40-plus-year-old people designing these shit.
This shit is comfortable, bro.
Yeah.
They're thinking about us 40-something.
But how old are the people sewn it together if you combine the age?
That's a median age of 16.
Yeah, exactly.
Let me see six eight-year-olds.
That's 48.
That's eight people, right?
You got to do a median average.
That's 16.
If you're proud of yourself, you're proud of yourself.
No nobody want to have that conversation, though.
What?
You start having that conversation about child label.
Everybody get quiet.
You know what I mean?
Because then we start realizing all our own hypocrisy.
That's right.
You don't get quiet.
We just turn the music up on our phone.
Exactly.
And guess who's making that?
Conier.
This shit is crazy.
Who's making it?
Who's making it?
Who's making the phone?
Oh, shit.
Salute to Kanye.
I hope he gets...
I'm trying to get a writing job with Andrew.
Yeah.
I hope he gets everything he deserves.
But I do feel like...
I do feel like...
How do you feel about this show?
How do you feel about, you know, just interracial relationships?
I believe in them.
What?
I believe in them.
Do you really?
Why is that a wild question?
I believe in interracial.
Do you do really?
Why is that a product of an interracial relationship?
No, no, you're not.
Interracial?
I'm scott.
Scottish. That's an ethnicity, buddy.
Your race is white.
It's two white people got together.
Scottish are the Africans in Europe, bro.
Okay.
But they're not the Africans of Africa.
No, because we're not in Africa, but we're African.
We're all African. In our soul, we're African.
We're all African.
You nigger. Nobody in Scott.
Other words for us.
But look at what we do.
We invented fried chicken in Europe.
Did you know that?
You invented it?
Shut up. Shut up.
Shut up.
I know you're going.
Just shut up.
No.
Look at it.
You've got fried chicken right there.
Look at fried chicken right there.
How do you invent somewhere based on your region?
No, I invented it in Scottish.
No, we invented before America.
We invented before y'all.
Before us?
Yes, I lost this one.
I lost this one.
We invented fried chicken, right?
I got riding on the table.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
Why you don't know the origins of fried chicken?
You know, right?
This guy's crazy.
This guy's crazy.
We are, we are the Africans of
Europe, pro.
Why?
You know the Africans are crazy.
We invented fried chicken.
All right, what else?
Number one.
We wear face paint and skirts and shit.
Did Africans invent fried chicken?
African Americans did.
African Americans, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did we invent fried chicken?
I don't think we invented it.
No, we did.
No, no, we did.
Because Noren, um, right after,
in the beginning stages of,
I think right after slavery or beginning of segregation,
I don't remember what,
but we used, they used to sell fried chicken dishes.
Time out.
Time to fuck out.
Where do you think?
You don't know how to do that.
Stop.
Everybody stopped.
From Scottish people.
See how they silence us?
I'm silenced to you.
No, I'm going to oppress you.
You see how they silence minorities, bro?
You just said, no, no, no.
Charlemagne just said, I don't know if it was,
I don't know if it was the beginning of slavery.
No, I said the end of slavery or the beginning of segregation.
That they just started selling.
They had a fried chicken.
A white person invented, it was pretty known like a white person had to invent a fraction.
I'm not giving that to Colonel Sanders, bro.
I don't know.
I didn't say they made it taste good, but they had a show the slaves
how to make it.
That's not true.
Where the fuck
there was
frying chicken
in Africa?
What you mean?
Where were you
where were you deep frying
chicken?
But they might have learned
that here in America.
From who?
Scottish people.
Haders?
I'm agreeing with Andrew,
unfortunately.
Why can we
know?
I don't know
Scottish people,
white people invite.
But you know,
Al, can you look up a Zulu
warrior and then put it next
a Braveheart and tell
it me that there's different.
Look up a Zulu warrior
when he's ready to get
busy.
When he's ready to knock if you bark or whatever.
Tell the Google, the origins of fried chicken in America.
Because you know the reason that they used to use chicken
because chicken was a cheap meat.
I get it, but to fry.
Chicken was a cheap meat.
See how y'all play us, bro?
That's a delicacy to us.
I mean, it's a delicacy to me, too, but at the time.
No, but now it was a cheap meat.
Pull it up.
Pull it up.
Pull it up.
Because I'm a cuisine, bro.
I'm tired of this treatment, man.
Okay.
There we go.
See, look, this the almost.
For frying and brine.
raising chicken from their own cuisine.
See, American fried chicken has its origins in slavery.
They used to sell fried chicken dinners to make money.
I'm not arguing that.
Nobody wanted to.
Yeah, I'm not arguing.
I'm saying, but Scottish people did.
But then they have to fry that.
Somebody had to teach them.
Google what fried chicken is invented in USA?
I refuse to believe that white people
ever taught black people how to fry.
Scotland did.
See, look, American style, fried chicken.
You got to look, look, started in the American South.
Started in the American South.
Some people think the recipe came from Scottish immigrants.
Some people being the Schultes.
However, many believe it was bought from Africa.
What is that?
Let me explain to you how Scottish people invented Steppin.
I'm not going to lie.
Scottish people have been to the Chachau Slide.
All of them.
I'm leaving this shit right here.
I'm not going to lie.
Scott's people invented tapgates in two.
Look up to tap games.
Look up to tap dancing.
Look up tap dancing.
Oh, shit.
Hold on.
Wait, what's talking about you?
Michael Flatley.
So Scott of people have fried chicken and tap dancing?
Yes.
Y'all are original coons, bro.
They call schoons, bro.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
I'm not gonna lie to this.
We are schoon's, bro.
Defendant.
Go on now.
Defender Andrew Shott.
Charlotte dead.
Freedom.
Look, Charlotte.
We invented freedom.
We invented freedom.
Defending Shorts is hard.
Defending Shoe is hard.
But that is for you like that.
He's not racist.
When he danced and that little side hair came out.
That was an Irish dance.
No, that's the side hair.
No, when that side hair dropped.
Go look and see if we didn't inventing dreadlocks.
Go look and see because he got the computer.
Go look and see if Scottish people didn't have done dreadlocks.
Look up braveheart.
Tell me Mel Gibson.
Rowdy Rebel got his name from a Scottish person.
How?
Roddy, Roddy, Roddy, right.
I know Roddy Pipe was Irish.
Come on, man.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Oh, are we all the same, y'all?
Yes.
Wow, bro.
How the tables turn.
Oh, my God, man.
Listen, this is the brilliant idiotous podcast.
Okay.
What else we got, Taylor?
Oh.
What happened?
What else did they have been?
The TV?
Y'all like TV?
What do you see that?
I don't even know what any of that shit is.
Listen.
Nothing that anybody uses.
The steam hammer, you don't got a gun?
That's what that is?
No.
No, no.
Why are you listening to that?
No.
You're a steamheamer.
You're not a gang.
Say what?
Europeans really were the earliest civilizations with dreadlocks.
Of course we did, bro.
Get the fuck out of this.
Man, you can't Google anything.
Just say.
Well, pull it up there.
I need to see it for myself.
I didn't know.
See, I got rid of mine.
Damn, I got to look up.
So we might have more in common with the Scottish than anything.
I'm telling you, bro.
All I'm hearing is that there was a lot of black people in the Scottish region.
That's exactly it.
That's what I'm here.
Bro, you black, bro.
No, no, no.
I'm in, he told you.
No, no.
I'm African, bro.
No.
I'm white African.
You're right.
I'm North African.
White African.
Yo, you should do post Malone over.
Yeah, white African.
White African.
Right.
Oh, Bob Marley was what?
Scottish.
Part Scottish.
Some of the earliest depictions of red lives.
Thank you.
That's where he got his soul from.
What?
We invented.
We invented reggae, bro.
Y'all put the gay in reggae.
Bob Molly was really Scottish?
Yeah.
We put the rat
What are you doing?
Yo
Hold on
Bob Molly was really
Part Scottish
Yes, bro
I knew he was half white
or something
Like type
Go to way to dreadlocks
From
Bup Bup
Buk
See where he's from
You click that one
No click the first one
What people also ask
Yo
Ben hated the police
I shot the sheriff
Who do you think?
You know the first police
I knew that
The first police was Scottish
Ancient Egypt is the true birthplace at Dreadlocks.
Say again?
No, say it again.
You heard it.
You've heard three times.
Wait, well, look, because too many people were saying that the first police were what?
The first police were Scottish.
Exactly.
Keep your enemies close.
The first police were not Scottish.
They were.
No, they weren't.
They were.
The first police were slave patrols in Virginia and Carolina.
Which were Scottish people.
Which were Scottish people.
They were?
Enemies close and your enemies closer.
I didn't know.
What is that saying?
Keep your friends close to enemies closer.
The people's out there with the homies.
He's like, yo, go, go, go, go, go, go to the north.
y'all wasn't doing that.
Yes, we were, bro.
You know, the fuck y'all was.
Y'all was burning us back.
No, we weren't.
Yeah, slave patrol.
That was their job.
Not only the English ones.
The Scottish was like, get up there,
the word patrol is actually Scottish.
No, it's not.
For police.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
Oh, my God.
Also, also been a bunch of y'all.
Listen, we're going to pay some bills,
and we're going to come back.
Yep.
And talk about Tiffany Haddish
and Airy Spears.
Do you want to go there?
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Woosa.
Woosa.
Tiffany Haddish, Ari Spears.
What are the thoughts?
I don't think Tiffany Hadish should be
wrapped up in this.
Okay.
I've seen the clip, yeah.
I don't think Tiffany Haddish should be wrapped up in this.
I've been saw this video years ago.
That's what I'm saying.
This is old.
Yeah, I saw this video years.
It was on funny or die.
I mean, I literally saw it like years ago.
It was like 2013, 2014.
But show you.
I really want to hear your perspective as a comedian.
Cut it out, man.
Come on, yo.
Come on, man.
What about it?
Which one?
I only saw one.
Road tripper.
What was the movie's shoes?
No, man.
The sketch with Harry Spears.
No, no.
I saw that shit, man.
What did you think?
Not funny enough for how gross.
It wasn't funny.
It wasn't funny.
We know that.
Yeah.
I never thought it was funny
when I saw it way back to the day.
No one paid any mind to it back then.
No, that's not the only reason
nobody paid any mind to it.
The other reason nobody paid any mind to it
because whether people want to admit it or not,
and nobody does because nobody wants to be canceled.
That kind of content was so the norm.
From movies to television to sketches,
for whatever reason.
To where they went?
Yes.
That was a little extra.
No, it was not.
I can tell you, by the way,
I'm not going to do it.
do that. If y'all want to cancel people, you do your own fucking homework. Okay, but I can point to so many
movies that had scenes like that. I mean, I'll give y'all one. Yeah, what's a movie? Because
it's a movie. Nicole Kidman and Burr. In that movie, she thought that her husband was reincarnated
as a 10-year-old. Yeah. There's a whole scene with them in the tub together and, you know,
throughout the movie, she's talking to him sexually, right? Yeah. And it's like back, and I had to look
this stuff because I'm like, yo, there had to be backlash for this back
in the day. And it was. It just wasn't
no end of it. You know what I mean? And
back then the movie studio
stood next to Nicole and said, no, this is art.
Well, yeah, because white woman.
Like that wasn't going, like,
when you said that, I was like, I never heard of it.
But when you started playing, I'm like, yeah, there was
no, it's Nicole kidding. I think there's also
like female to male
pedophilia isn't looked at as bad.
I think if they were black, it would be different.
I think if that... I'm not saying that
that's not the case. But I think
that like when a girl does something too.
Yeah, it's a little less, because it's a, it's a, it's a male.
It's like a female teacher and fucks a student.
Nobody cares.
Yeah.
Oh, like one, like shouting out to get, oh, we wish that was me with my teacher.
Exactly.
But when it's wrapped around, we're all like, oh, that's disgusting.
How did you?
And how many comedians have made Michael Jackson jokes?
How many comedians have made all Kelly jokes?
And you know what?
I was having this discussion with somebody yesterday and they was like, well, you know,
it's different because there was kids in the actual video.
But I'm like, well, you know, depending on what you.
believe is actual victims
in the Michael Jackson situation.
But that's the thing. I mean, that's the difference.
It's like, it's just got to be funny, man.
At the end of the day, it has to be funny.
I don't think there's no way to make that funny.
And I love comedy.
I love people that push the limit, but
I don't think that clip, I don't think, I don't care.
There was nothing funny about that.
That's what I'm saying.
And it was, and it was not funny because of the way
they were joking about it.
There's ways to make that funny.
Yeah.
But they were just doing the.
thing instead of eluding to it.
So it's like if the
in that sketch, if the pedophile's trying to
control himself and the kid keeps saying
things that would turn on a pedophile, but he's
got to pretend like it doesn't turn him on.
There's the tension that creates funny.
Just rubbing baby oil on a kid's back or having him pump
his super soak or whatever like that.
Like it just
this is not how funny works.
I get what you're saying. And mouse is right too.
You know, like Tiffany.
Oh, Tiffany did.
Tiffany called an unnecessary script.
Yeah.
Because at the time she's an up-and-coming comedian.
You know what I mean?
Aries is just coming off mad TV.
You know, Aries is like, yo, I got a sketch.
I'm working on some other things.
Blah, blah, why don't you come be a part of the sketch?
She plays the kid's mother in the sketch.
Not justifying it, not making it right,
but I can see how something like that happens.
Plus, man, the question I'm constantly asking is
at some point, we all have to have a real conversation
about old content, right?
Because we come from a different era
where a lot of things that shouldn't have been funny,
Or shouldn't have been talked about or shouldn't have been made fun of.
People used to.
And there was a point where if you weren't going far, you probably weren't going far.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the truth to the matter.
Shock value everything was a thing.
Whether it was books.
Shock is okay.
When done right?
I mean, yeah, I think shock is okay.
I just think that like for commie, there has to be some like misdirection.
There has to be some tension.
And like that sketch just failed in doing that.
So I think the sketch was more of a failure.
I also think it didn't help the fact that like the allegations came first and then we saw the sketch.
So we're watching the sketch and now you're filling in the holes.
They're basically, yo, look at these pedophiles.
Yeah.
And here's the proof.
So now I'm watching this sketch going like, wait a minute, did he like putting a baby oil on the kids back?
Instead of watching it going, look at these hilarious comedians.
Here's their sketch they made.
And then we'd go, ah, this wasn't funny.
But like, I see what they were trying to do.
Yeah, which happened all the time.
We look back at stuff now.
I didn't see what they were trying to do, though.
I mean, I guess to your point, because that's when you look at the sketch,
it just looks like, you know, they're just making fun of touching on kids.
I guess what I would say is, like, in order to do a sketch like that,
you got to be so far removed from wanting to do anything to a kid.
Come on.
I'm not listening.
We don't think that they're actual child molest.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, you would never, if you actually were, you would never do a sketch like that
because it outs you.
Well, I don't know.
Drill rappers would beg the difference.
Hey, drill rappers would beg the difference.
There's a lot of drill rappers that would beg the difference.
I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, man.
I'm just saying.
I think what we're forgetting about this situation here is I don't think anyone would have paid it any money
if Ari Spears would have shut the fuck up about old girl.
Oh, shit.
Is this what brought it out?
Yes, that happens all the time.
That's not true.
That's not true.
No one would have paid this any money.
mine. That's not true.
No, I'm gonna tell you why I would have paid any mind.
That's not true.
Because they're like, who fuck is Ari's Spears?
But now he's in the line, he's in the spot like for dissing this woman who's mind
her business.
Arias is like the B side of this whole story.
Like if Tiffany had, anybody that's a star like Tiffany and you get child molester next to you
and somebody accusing you or that, it's going to be a story, bro.
Like, you know, that's what it is.
Like, it just is what it is.
Yes.
Like, she's the, she's the main drawing.
this. If it was just
Aries, it wouldn't be a story.
If it was, being that it's
Tiffany and Aries, it's a bigger deal.
I didn't hear nothing about this story until
he says something about that girl.
I understand.
Because when the person didn't find a lawsuit until after.
I understand what
who's weak?
No, no, I understand what you're saying.
Like, I think what you're saying is
in order for it to become a story,
you need an A-list celebrity.
Yeah. And Tiffany's that.
But I agree with you,
which is nobody's going to go digging for it.
and trying to make Aries look bad if he doesn't say that about Lizzo.
We see this all the time with cancer culture.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I get what you're saying, but this isn't that kind of situation because a woman filed a lawsuit.
This isn't somebody on Twitter who found the old clip and said, hey, look at what Aries was doing.
Oh, wait a minute.
The lawsuit is separate?
Yes, man.
Wait, what?
A woman that used to be Tiffany's friend filed a lawsuit against Aries and Tiffany Haddish.
It has nothing to do.
About what?
About the sketch.
Those were her kids in the sketch.
And she said her kids are traumatized.
Oh.
Oh, well, now it makes it even fucking weirder because
Did she allow them to do the sketch?
Right.
You just allowed your kids to do this.
Oh, no, this has been going on for a while.
She's been trying to get them for a while.
So now you've been trying to get them for a while.
So now you prove my point.
If this has been going on for a while and we just caught wind of it now,
it's directly because Aries Spitz ran his mouth.
No, mouse.
No.
The woman filed a lawsuit.
after the Lizzo situation.
This has nothing to do with Lizzo.
This has been going on for the past few years.
It had nothing to do with Lizzo.
I'm saying the public...
She just filed a lawsuit last week.
I'm saying the public seeing it
and this being this big array,
it's directly affected to...
No.
Either way, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't regardless.
She filed the lawsuit.
Sure.
Reference this video.
People went to go look for the video.
And somebody put the video out with the lawsuit as well.
They knew what they, you know what they were doing.
But once again, man,
I'm telling you, people were making...
these kind of jokes.
Sarah Silverman, she tweeted
one time, hey, is it considered molestation if the child
makes the first move? I'm going to need a quick
answer on this. She had to apologize four years later.
Right. But my point is,
will always be, for some reason,
people used to make these kind of jokes.
Was it ever acceptable?
No. But was it accepted?
Yes. But it's much like we say about Twitter
back in the day, right? It was the wow, wow. There were
no boundaries. Oh, my God. We're creating
civilization as we go.
Oh, my God. So now we know
what's allowed, what's not allowed,
what's too far,
what's not too far,
and to whatever
how it works out for you,
we acknowledge that we're going too far.
Yeah.
But do we,
I'm gonna tell you what I mean by that.
Do we acknowledge the actual issue
or do, if it's somebody we don't like,
then we go extra harder to act like
we're against whatever it is they did, in real time.
Because.
Ooh, it depends on,
that's the thing about being a fucking asshole, right?
Like, that's the thing about,
like even i'll take me for example right like even you know coming up in the shit and like knowing who i am
and being like all right well i'm not somebody who's always going to agree with shit and i get a kick out of
my opinions all right if i'm that unlikable i'm going to have to deal with some shit
same thing with everybody here we all have to deal with some level of bullshit because we're our our
foundation is rooted in like the uncomfortability of it all you get what i'm saying but even if we
did.
But my son is absolutely right.
But even if we weren't those people, we're successful.
And when you're successful,
they want to see you fall.
It's going to come with a group of people who just want to see you for.
Yeah.
It's really just that simple.
But I think LeBron has a lot less people that want to see him fall than
all of us do, though.
Proportionally.
But, Bo, all of us do, though.
That's what we, I think sometimes we get caught up in like social media and we think
that's the world and those people that are constantly telling you that
Good job, good job, good job.
You ain't shit.
No, not good job.
Fuck you.
You ain't shit.
Blaszy Blossie.
You think, damn, nobody likes this individual,
but, yo, everybody has more supporters than people who don't support them.
Yeah, I agree.
I just, I don't know.
I think that the weird thing about it is, like,
seeing an actual child do something sexual
and knowing that an adult told them to do the sexual thing.
And that, to me, makes it different than, like, just saying words.
And what you just said, Schultz, and maybe it's different in the Tiffany
thing.
And you see, I even put Tiffany first, but I shouldn't have this different in the
Aries-Tiffany thing.
are as different with a stand-up comedian because there's no checks and balances, right?
There's no child with a stand-up.
There's no child that's just a joke.
It's being told to do anything.
There's no child getting baby oil put on them.
There's no child in a bathtub with you.
There's no kid.
So what about the movies?
What about the movies who depict these things?
That's what.
Why does the talent always get to fall?
Why not the writers, the producers, the directors, the production company, the network, that aired this shit.
The person has to agree to it.
What do you mean?
Like, it's like what show's the story.
Everybody has to agree to it.
The checks and balances.
But everybody has to agree to it.
Them kids can't do shit in the movies.
You got to sign a consent form.
That's what I'm saying.
So the parents got signed the consent form.
It's weird.
So the person who's responsible for him is the parent.
We don't got to tell all the stories,
bro.
That's another thing.
It's like it's for the art.
It's like,
I don't need that story.
Now, that's what I agree with.
Yeah, yeah.
I've agreed with that.
I've agreed with that.
I've agreed with that.
I mean, we've all said in a blackmail
where it's like,
you know, we don't need another slave movie,
bro.
we've had them, bro.
I don't need every story, bro.
I don't need every...
I think in regards to slavery, sure,
we, like, overkilled it,
but I think some stories should be told
that way some things can be addressed
because if you don't really depict things
all the way through,
like, to its core,
we can't really learn from the mistakes.
So being able to watch it,
we can correct it and be like,
oh, that's wrong.
That's why we have documentaries.
That's why, and we can tell,
like, we don't need the kid to,
we know what molestation is.
We don't need it.
act it out.
I don't need to see a kid
fucking scream
and hold a mattress.
Yeah, like to say what
happened.
You can see an adult walk in the room
and fade to black
and kind of like...
I also feel like that
with adults too.
I feel like that like
we don't need to always see
a woman getting raped.
We don't need to see that.
We don't need to see...
Does it not hit the same
in the documentary
when she's talking about it?
Like you need a visual?
Like,
think about when they see us...
Oh, go ahead.
I'm not saying that the skit was good,
but I'm saying in a sense of
I think we had this conversation
not too long ago,
or was it,
with Jock and he was like, you don't got to say the N word to get your point across.
Oh, that was weird.
I mean, you kind of do.
Jock was talking about the F word.
Oh.
When Kendrick was said the F word on a.
And that song, it was necessary.
Well, that's where me and him disagreed.
No, and that song it was necessary.
I agree.
And you know why?
Because if you listen to that song.
He's speaking from the aspect of a, of a.
By somebody who didn't know any better.
Exactly.
By the end of the song, he's not saying it no more.
He's saying the F word.
Yeah.
To let y'all know, this is how I've grown.
this how I evolved, but back then
this is what we used to say. He even said it like
a child. He said it multiple times
with that little high pitch boy, he said
it as a child, but by the end, once he's learned
and talked to people in that community, talk to his
aunt who transitioned, he's saying
the F word now. That's a cousin. That's great art. I just
feel like visually, we don't always got to see that shit, bro.
I don't need, like when
I was thinking about it. Would you be cool with a white guy
doing that same thing with the N-word? No.
Depends. They did it on the Django.
I mean, they've done it.
No, you're right.
No, they do it in period pieces.
She's right.
They do it in period pieces all the time.
I'm not mad at that.
No, but that's not.
And by the way, that can get you can't.
That's the wild part, right?
If they wanted to, they could go back to Django and get Leonardo DiCaprio out to paint
and couple that with the fact he's like 25-year-olds and say he's, isn't that a lot of my favorite movie?
If they don't, this is tricky.
This is a tricky.
Because you need to depict.
Mark this, Alex.
No, no, no, no.
We show said this is a trick.
He's revving up.
You gotta have white people saying the N-word
and being awful to black people
if you're doing slavery movies
because we're depicting how atrocious slavery is.
If back in the day white people
are talking to black people like, hello, sir,
would you mind putting that over there?
It's not realistic.
Or if they're like filtering.
Nobody's going to believe it was that bad.
Or if they're filtering out the N-word.
Or if it's like, you motherfucker fucking piece of.
garbage
you don't want it like yeah no
this is the other thing do you know how much
of our culture we lose
if we get rid of everything
that was toxic and inappropriate
we lose we definitely lose all our favorite rational
we lose movies
everything
I'm watching juice over the weekend
I love juice
oh yeah just will get canceled
absolutely
all my episode is supposed to be in high school
smashing the nurse smashing Cindy from in vogue
who was a nurse
her husband sitting there like
man you're taking this
saved the children's shit a little too far.
There's a point.
The biggest hater.
There's a point later in the movie where they start arguing,
and she goes, I'm not one of your little high school friends.
No shit.
So now you're admitting that you know you have culpability.
Like, come on.
Like, remember, they got Beyonce and Lizzo over this fast thing.
Them talking, the way they was talking about Bishop's father?
It's Bishop.
Bishop and Tupac.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they was talking about them all crazy.
And by the way, it was packed them up.
for that. That's right.
Just wheeled a low shoes.
And it's not just a hip-hop thing.
It's an American culture thing.
American culture, black, white.
If you were in entertainment, it was wild.
And I think collectively the industry from TV to movies to audio to comedy,
everybody to just put out one mass statement and say, look, you weren't here.
You weren't around for the 1990s in the early 2000s and the 80s.
And shit was wild.
It was the Wild West.
We know this, okay?
But we've evolved.
Everybody's evolved.
Entertainment is evolved.
We're not on that no more.
So if y'all find some old shit, regardless of what it is.
I don't care if it's the comedians in Blackface.
I don't care if it's, no, no, no, you got to stop.
Because if you think that's, there was never a time where that's funny.
What do you mean?
Blackface, it was all, from the time it was happening, people were saying, this shouldn't be happened.
That's not true.
Robert Downey Jr.?
That's not true.
And Travick Thunder?
That's not funny.
You had late night.
That was a good one.
Jimmy Kimmel painted his whole body brown to play Call Malone.
Nobody said anything.
Jimmy Fallon put blackface on a pretend to be Chris Rock.
And that was on SNL.
These were big time major network shows.
And I was a kid when that happened.
And I was hearing people like, no, that shouldn't happen.
You never heard of that mouse.
Well, I'm not saying you didn't.
I never did.
Here's the thing that people don't,
it's discussion people don't want to have because a lot of people are not,
and myself included, not as well.
versus what black face actually was.
Like black face, like painting white people up as the black Sambo character.
Yes.
And having them act in the most insulting way and stereotypical way to black people is different
than just looking like a person who is famous.
Now, we've blended these things into the same thing, but they are separate.
One is for the purpose of being racist.
The other is for the purpose of doing.
an impression.
But it'll go,
those are separate things.
Yes, I agree.
But it also goes back
to what me and you said
earlier what we agreed upon
is we don't need every story.
No,
no.
We didn't need Jimmy Kimmel.
But do you,
but Bob,
do you real quick on that?
Real quick on that.
I think if like,
like right now we can't sit here
and name a single
blackface character or movie.
Right?
Like, can you?
Outside of Robert Downey?
No, no, I mean talking back
in the day.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The first birthday
nation, the first birthday
nation like all those people were he means name the person name only i don't even know sambo
was name or named the movie just like just like the character that was so offensive that like
oh well brother manate well so going to what you said about the sambo character well sambo was a
that was a that was a architect to be disrespectful so that's one but also the other function of
black face back in back in those days and christoprised speak on it um a little bit better than me uh
it was to make sure they didn't have to hire black people well yeah they just so they were
in black people back in these black and white
film they just being a white person. That's what the whole
minister shows about. So like that's two
reasons why blackface is not okay. We're not
arguing why it's, we all agree it's not
okay, right? What I'm saying is like if we
were really familiar with
what these characters were
and how disrespectful they were
and the purpose of them
got you. I think that we could
probably differentiate between an
impression of a famous person
and just the straight
disrespect of African Americans.
Can we see where that line merges?
But the fact that we're not as familiar, all of us are just not as familiar with these characters,
we just go, yeah, why the fuck is this white person dressing up like a black person, paint their face?
That's like that shit that they used to do.
That's disrespectful.
Fuck this.
And to be honest, it's not up to me to decide if it's right or wrong.
Right.
But I think the more familiar we are with our past, we could at least go, there's levels to this and go,
maybe Jimmy Fallon isn't as bad as the guy who is at what, Amos and Andy?
Yeah.
Maybe it's not as bad.
Maybe it's that's not.
That was made to make black people feel bad and laugh at them.
And this is made to make Carl Malone feel bad.
He should be made to feel bad.
And I think you still can make fun of him.
And you don't need the paint.
Yeah, you know.
And you can do the voice.
You can do the whole thing.
You know who gets to decide that?
Black people.
You guys get to decide what the rule is because it's you.
Oh, no.
Well, listen, if he wants to take the comedic risk,
do you think everybody can decide
you're just got to deal with outrage
I guess what I'm saying is like
each culture gets to decide
like what they think is going too far
right and where the line is for them
and that's up to you guys
and then the people can take the risk
and I think what we're trying to tell
you guys we don't know
what now we do
there was a time
there was no line bro
yeah there just simply wasn't
and everybody can sit around
and act like that's not true
that absolutely is the
I agree with you
And I think that was my major point.
But that's also why I give so much grace
because even when you say something like,
no, you can't forgive this person for blackface, whatever.
It's like, bro, if they did that to us?
If they did that to hip-hop culture?
But it's not.
That's a false equivalency.
No, it's not.
Every time you said that to me,
I said back to you, it's a false equivalency.
I'm going to tell you why.
I can tell you some things right now
that some of your favorite rappers have said,
which I won't.
Because once again, if you want to cancel somebody,
do your own fucking homework.
You'd be like, oh, shit.
Because guess what?
It goes against everything you said you care about.
You just said you've got to protect children.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
My point is none of us.
But when it comes to content,
no.
When it comes to content,
yes,
are clean and should be above reproach.
But when you flipped it,
that's all I'm saying.
I agree with you,
no one's above reproach.
I didn't like the way you flipped
and you said if they did that to us.
Oh, you mean if they did that to us on top of everything else that's been put on us?
No, I'm just talking about from an entertainment content perspective.
It's important.
You can't.
You can't, we can't, we can't marginalize it, right?
We can't isolate that and say like, oh, just in content.
Even black people's voice being heard in the content space was a way hard
to fight than what, what, what?
But that's my point.
So it's like, yo, this is what they do, right?
Dale, two things happen in these situations.
Black people hear old content from other black people and weaponize it against black people.
Like people that they may not like, may not agree with, and they use it against them.
Definitely.
And then white people use it as a way to be like, well, I told you so.
I didn't want to fuck with them no way.
Yes.
We shouldn't have had them in here anyway.
Right.
So we're all cannibalizing each other.
That's what,
the only point I'm making with all of this shit
when it comes to old content is this a circular firing squad, baby.
And I guarantee you if you've been around long enough,
it's only a matter of time for you get shot.
I think it's more like this.
It's like there's a weapon that exists now and it can be used when you want.
And we see this happen with different movements, right?
We saw it happen with me too.
It's like, oh, here's a new weapon.
I don't like this guy.
He didn't call me back.
Me too.
Me too, right?
And what we have to decide is,
if we want that weapon.
And eventually what happens
is what happens
with like nuclear weapons now.
I would just about say,
is it like nuke?
Mutually assured destruction.
So everyone just...
If everybody got a nuke,
now everybody behaves.
Right?
Everybody's just chilling right now.
Guys are making sure we call women there.
I'll say this.
I know somebody who
went at somebody
and that person's team said,
you sure?
Uh-uh.
Don't forget about this.
Well, I'll press the button on this.
the day and repost this
and remind everybody of what you said
that person backtrack the next day.
See? You know what I'm saying?
Mutually assured destruction.
I like that. That's where we're all headed if we continue
to go down to the back. And I know people will say things like, oh, you know,
Tiffany's your friends, you're making an excuse for it. No,
I'm standing up for the content. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Meaning that we all have some shit
that motherfuckers can use against us.
You're saying because of the time
that content should be allowed to
It was fucked up
We can acknowledge it was fucked up
It should have never happened
But it did happen
It was a failure
It was a failure
But it was a failure
But even some of our shit
That slapped
Shouldn't have happened
Yeah that's true
Sure
I just gave you two examples
That we cut out
Those are big records
You didn't give me anything
Triple platinum
Quadrant triple platinum
Yeah
We're talking about movies
That we can all go back
And watch that we all consider classics
But you watch it now
You like,
but movies are different because there's a time stamp.
There is a time stand where you're able to say this.
What do you mean?
He said little rascal.
What happened in that?
I never seen a little rascal.
Oh, you're talking about it.
I'm like the run I grew up on.
It was pretty safe.
No, no, no, no what mouse is saying should be correct, but that's not the case.
I think it's like, I think movies is like, oh, timestamp.
No, but that's not the case.
What you're saying should be correct, but it's not the case because we see it all the time.
They take all of this old shit, even if it's timestamp and still try to
paint you with that brush today?
Well, because I think it's a bit different because that's your...
Well, maybe that's the rule.
It's like if you want to molest, like make a moody out of it.
Yeah.
All right.
You know what I mean?
I'm sorry, guys.
Put some working.
He's got you, by the way?
Higher director.
By the way, shows has a point because I don't know why isn't Hollywood being held more
accountable.
You know what I mean?
You can't hold Hollywood accountable because they're protected by the fact that the parent
said okay.
will have their time, I think.
Their redemption?
No, what is it?
No, not the redemption.
They're reckoning.
Yeah, yeah.
No, they won't.
They will not.
No, they won't.
No, they won't.
It's a billion-dollar industry.
No, they won't.
To a point that you are making, I think, like, yeah,
nukes is having, like, content against each other, but the real weapon is the tongue,
like the power of the tongue.
And then also, I don't think you guys should scrub everything off the internet, because, again,
it's like, how are you going to learn from the past?
I agree with not.
Like, if you watch, you guys watch the game of the drones.
Do you watch Game of Thrones?
The new season and they cut the mom open
Like the dad was like, I want the son, da-da-da,
and then the son end up dying.
But watching that and how gruesome it was.
Like this season is very gruesome.
They're showing like the inside of people's guts when it dies.
But it's like even though like if you were to see that today,
you know, you would automatically be like, yo, send this person to jail.
But it's like this was real life.
No, no.
It's a fiction.
There's dragons.
Yeah, there were no dragons.
No, no, no.
No, no to the dragons are real, but.
On the Monk's corner, right?
Dragons aren't real?
No.
No.
No.
No, Chris, you're just going to let them disrespect your home.
Like, what's up, Chris?
Chris.
I'm talking about the childbirth part.
I'm talking about, like, the real stuff within it.
You're talking about the brutality of childbirth back in the day.
Yes.
Yeah.
I just want all of us, uh, I'm just talking about shirkily content.
I ain't talking about shit else.
Mm-hmm.
Just give each other.
the more grace, bro.
Yes.
Because all of us got some shit that could come back,
the haunt us at any given one.
I think the scariest part,
or I think the part that people,
with the ones that try with good intention,
that's what I'll say,
because I do think there's evil people.
I do think there's people that's looking for a moment
and all of that.
The people that are trying to be the gatekeepers
are trying to be the first responders to that
with good intentions,
I think what scares them,
it's a lot easier to let a movie or a song go past, right?
Because there's like this barrier of entry.
like I wasn't there when they record the song.
This movie, it's lights, camera action.
You're depicting a character.
It's different.
What I think is different for like comedians or like podcasters.
Like you're saying your thoughts.
This is what you think on the inside.
You've dealt with this as a comedian.
Not really, though.
I just think that's what.
Because it's still entertainment.
Like you're saying things for entertainment.
But you're not playing a character, right?
It's a lot harder for somebody to tell that.
It's not a character.
I just think that like we recognize what is funny is often naughty.
It's often wrong and bad.
And we recognize it.
And that's why we can make it.
And that's why I'm sure Ari's and Tiffany made the sketch.
They're like, this is bad.
And as a human being, we know what is right and moral, most of us.
And we know what is wrong.
Right.
And then sometimes what's wrong is really funny.
And that's why on this podcast, sometimes before we're about to say something funny,
we laugh to ourselves because we go, I'm about to say some shit I know is wrong.
Right.
But for whatever reason, it's funny.
And comedy still exists to this day because we find humor in what is.
naughty and bad. We would have got rid of it
thousands of years ago if
we didn't still enjoy laughing with what's naughty.
But the idea I think
what is lost is that we don't
recognize that it's wrong. We understand
that it's wrong and when we're defending
this. Like I know this isn't wrong. I know
Scottish people aren't the Africans
of Europe, but it's funny
to be a little naughty and make these connections
or whatever. So that's all we're doing.
It wasn't funny to me anymore. I thought you was serious.
It was funny when I believed
you. You know what? We're talking
Now that I know he was trying to be funny, I'm disappointed.
Can I be honest?
You know the dragons were real five minutes ago.
Dragons are real.
What are you talking about?
I'm going to be honest.
You're going to hate this, but like, um.
Santa Claus isn't real.
No.
Yeah, I, I don't think, I don't think, uh, I don't think black people are black.
All right.
No, he's right about that.
Wait, what do you mean?
He's right about that.
I don't know what he means.
Because black, black is a label.
Sure.
Scottish people are black.
Okay.
Well, I don't know.
Scottish people are Scottish.
No.
No, they're white.
Listen, bro.
We can identify as anything.
Scottish people are dragons, bro.
We are dragons.
You are dragons.
Little dragons.
We are dragons.
We are dragons.
We are dragons.
I want to hear this, though.
Why aren't black people black?
Say it in?
I want to hear why?
I didn't figure it out just yet.
See what I'm saying?
No, entertainment.
That's what I'm saying.
You see what he did?
Everybody on the edge of the seat like,
see?
No, Shultz walked this down.
Because remember that's entertainment.
Five minutes.
But guess what?
Somebody could take that one clip.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And just put that with no context, no nothing.
I don't think black people are black.
And then he's going to show Mous and Shalama like,
look at them tap dead.
You know, he's right.
Exactly.
He's right.
He's right.
I don't think black people are black.
He's right.
Mind you look,
Charlotte may have no idea when you were going.
He's right.
Tell me more.
You know, listen, we talk about that Magic Johnson clip
of Magic Johnson on Breakfast Club.
Somebody put that out, but they purposely cut the laster.
Oh, what?
That's wrong.
That's wrong.
But that's my point.
You know what I mean?
They cut him laughing just to make it seem like I'm just...
This from Sacramento.
No, it wasn't.
But that's my point.
People know what they're doing, y'all.
The moral of the stories, just give everybody grace, man,
especially when it comes to old content.
We didn't know no better.
We really did.
And we really did, bro.
Yeah.
Did we not?
Yeah.
You know there's episodes of Guy Code that they don't play no one?
Yeah, I know.
The one about me.
Hey!
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
Alex just bleeped out.
I'm married.
But, but...
I'm married, bro.
Listen, I'm...
Think about this, though.
Think about this.
They edit it now.
I would rather say it because it's not that crazy.
But that means standards and practices,
all the producers,
directors and writers and everybody else
just now realizing three years ago
like, oh.
That's just slap, man.
They didn't do it because they felt like
the joke was inappropriate.
It did it because of the backlash.
Exactly.
The joke was funny.
You go back to what I said about Twitter.
It's a lot of the reason why...
That's just not funny, bro.
Slats.
That's a thank you.
Pretty good.
Like your...
Bleep all it is.
This bleep.
Y'all are going to happen to miss out.
It sounds crazyer now.
When we're because we have, why?
Because no, no, no.
It's no, it wasn't.
This way got.
It wasn't crazy.
It wasn't crazy.
What's this way got?
Shows, what's this way got?
This way got.
Hey, all jokes aside, all jokes aside.
They really, and by the way, this is how you know that, like, media really programmed you.
I'm married, yo.
But listen.
I'm married.
This is how you know television.
Why you keep doing this thing.
Bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep.
But this is how you know.
this is how you know
programming really impacts you
and if you think social media is really
making people lose empathy.
Right?
Social media is making people lose empathy.
Yeah.
Compassion and desensitizing people.
Yeah.
That's how we were.
When we started watching certain shit on TV
and certain shit that they were showing us,
that's why we were desensitized to a lot of shit.
I think we were dissentized,
but I also think that we had a better understanding
of humor back then, which was
Yes.
We said things on purpose
to be inappropriate
and funny and dark.
And like, and we did it
knowing that it was wrong
for the purpose of being inappropriate, funny,
and dark. Because there was no internet that desensitized
us to what was.
Right now, these kids have a desensitization.
TV did that for us, though.
Well, no, I think that...
I think they're making it literal.
I think they're making it literal right now.
I think like...
Yes. When you listen to like Eminem lyrics back in the day,
there was a barrier.
We knew that this was a cartoon.
We're like, he's not really doing these things.
He's not lining you.
kids up. What is that? I take seven kids from Columbine,
put them all in line. Like,
you're not literally doing that. He's like,
I'm going to be the worst
human and say the worst things.
Right. And I think that we applied that to
a lot of like rap back in the day. We're like, yo,
what is the craziest person? What would the
craziest person do? I think
it's a little different with Eminem and the rest of rap just
because, damn, I don't want everything
I say to be, oh, he's so racially
motivated. But it's a little
different because they already looked at
black people as, like, I think
Hip-hop.
Put it this way.
Hip-hop avoids a lot of...
Put it this way.
When you're deciding to, like, take on the name of, like, a horrible dictator, like, Noriega, right?
Okay.
You're not doing it.
Noriega.
No, it was a dictator?
The original Noriega, yeah.
Yeah, so...
It was a drug dealer.
Well, that goes hand-in-hand when you're in...
What was this country?
Where was it?
It was like...
Nicaragua.
Nicaragua.
Whoa.
Yeah.
You said what?
What did you in Christmas?
What did you in Christmas?
First was you guys.
Then he was like, you know, forget it, niggers.
Waiwa.
White people named that country for sure.
You know, it was something else.
Absolutely.
He was like, mani-o-ragwa.
We're like, I got a better name.
He's like, black people are there?
Nicaragua.
But he chose the name because he's like...
We love you, Nori.
Yo, shout to Nori.
No, 100%.
It's like, but the name is here's this guy who's this powerful dictator.
Everybody wanted to be the bad guy.
who did bad.
Like there are people who's, what is it?
Oh, I'm like, what is it?
I'm a band man.
Something like the Taliban.
I'm all rubber band man's fly.
Fly out of the Taliban.
That's the Taliban.
He's a Taliban.
Fly like the Taliban.
That was crazy.
That's an insane thing.
Well, you're trying to.
That's a double on time.
Why?
Because the plane crashed.
But he's saying he's fly.
But the plane crashed.
But that wasn't, that was a good one time.
I'm with you.
But I'm saying, he was just thinking of things that everybody could.
I mean, you can't say fly like a bird.
But the Taliban can't fly it?
How do the Taliban fly?
And I don't even rhyme and rubber band.
It worked for Nelly Furtado.
What she said?
I'm like a bird.
I want to fly away, but she couldn't.
That's an ain't because she's a human.
Man, man, bro.
No.
But my point is, we're taking people.
Wait, the Taliban really is dumb now.
Now I know it's a different terror cell that did.
No, but we thought it was Taliban.
I thought the Taliban flew.
My stupid ass.
Look, my stupid ass.
My stupid ass is over this.
You telling me the Taliban never flew?
You know, it's even, if they, if he did say that on the collab, if he did say it because of 9-11, it's even crazy.
Oh, that's why he said it because of 9-11.
Like, Tiak could never say anything again.
Well, when was Robert Band Man release?
It was after, after, after 9-11?
Definitely after.
It was 0-4, 05.
Fly like the Taliban, like you want to be the people that flew the planes into the towers and killed thousands of people?
To your point about that and the M&M Collinban line.
And by the way, I'm going to be honest, this is something that I just learned.
we thought we were making
like even somebody like
when they used to make
R. Kelly jokes, Michael Jackson jokes.
Yeah. We thought we were making jokes about
them. They were to us.
But we forget this, people actually impacted.
So when you say line up seven people from Columbine,
there were people whose kids were actually
killed in Columbine. So it actually
made... People actually died 9-11.
Absolutely. So it makes what M&M and Tia
and those guys say even that more
insensitive. But they're not...
No, real quick, what this is like...
I guess what I'm trying to say is
I understand what they're trying to do
much like humor, which is I'm going to be something naughty.
Yeah.
I'm going to be.
I'm going to say the outlandish story.
Who's the worst guy?
Who's the baddest guy?
Who's the one that nobody wants to fuck with?
Right.
Who's the guy that never backs down?
Right.
Here's Noriega, this dictator.
Taliban over here.
Like, I'm going to say I'm these people on purpose.
I'm going to be inflammatory on purpose.
Yo, Gotti.
Yeah.
Godi.
Yeah.
Right.
I know who these people are.
And I'm going to mimic myself after them because I,
want to be the baddest guy out there.
But they're also aware that those guys are bad,
and that's why they're choosing to be them.
And that's the same thing with humor.
We know what we're doing is bad,
and we're choosing to do it for that reaction.
And then something shifted where everything we said,
we meant.
And that's what things are fun.
I agree.
I agree with you 100%.
I'm going to tell you where that happened.
Hold on making good.
Megan Good said something on my talk show last season,
and I thought she was, I was like, really?
I couldn't understand it.
But she was basically saying she got to watch the roles that she plays.
Because people were believing.
Because people think that's really her.
And I'm like, are people really that's COVID?
Yes.
Well, programming.
If you play that same role every time.
No.
Danny Trejole literally plays the same person in every movie.
It's a book.
He's a book.
He's the Mexican dude.
With the beard that goes like this.
He's got a fucking leather vestet with this open.
You can see the tattoo on his chest from Desperado.
The bad guy.
Super long hair.
I know he plays the same role every time.
I believe that he's him.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Three different people ran through my mind just now.
I saw Emilio Estevez.
What?
You've seen the
You seen the podium
on the breakfast club?
He's white?
Emilio Estevez?
Oh,
he's like half.
He's half and half.
He's white, though.
He's half half half.
He's Mexican.
White people, Mexicans can be white, real?
I don't think he's Mexican.
His last name is,
his name is Emilio Estevon.
I don't think that's Mexican.
I think you're just trying to.
He might be from Google with a
Nicaragua.
Google what Emilio Estebos is, Alex.
Yeah.
Moral of the stories, man, just give people grace, bro.
Because, God damn it, don't wait until it's your fucking faith, all right?
To stand up for, you know, what's right and give people grace.
But also, we got to teach people to be accountable, right?
I think if we teach, if we only teach one half of that.
Accountable for your jokes, accountable?
Accountable for a horror movie?
Like, yeah, everybody had to be accountable.
What does that even mean?
All right, hey.
Like, that's like a woke Twitter term when people say hold them accountable.
Yeah.
How do you hold somebody, how do you hold somebody accountable for old rap lyrics or a old sketch?
Like, hold me accountable for, hey, at this time, all accountability is saying.
How about this?
Hold you accountable for the sketch just not being funny.
Like, I'm not going to hold them accountable for that sketch for as if they're molesters.
I don't think that at all.
No, I think he was accountable for, this was grossly inappropriate.
And it wasn't funny.
And then what?
After that, then, then I'm with you.
But after that, then what?
Once you stand accountable for that?
Not, no, not this area.
This area, I don't even know what they're looking for.
No one, no one's how to, but nobody is, nobody stands accountable.
Yeah.
What do you mean?
No one says.
Tift took accountability?
What's accountability?
What would you like them to do?
You're saying, hey, you have to stand next to what you did.
All we see now or a majority of what we see is people saying, hey, this thing,
they're trying to hold you accountable and you say, nah, fuck out of it.
I'm rich.
Yeah.
After they have after people are telling you, hey, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong.
You know why?
Much of silence.
Much of silence.
People will be pulling up shit and I'd be like, I don't even remember saying
that shit, bro.
Like, I don't.
It's like, I don't be, we've moved on.
Like, as it was 10 years ago, 15 years ago.
So why should you like bring up some shit you did in the past is horrible?
No, if somebody brings it to you, I'm not saying, hey, look, guys, look at this.
No, that defeats what you just said.
Once somebody brings it to you, you have to stand accountable.
And that's what they do.
Once you say, I apologize.
That was wild.
Listen, we...
Like Tiffany Haddish, who I have said from the beginning of this podcast,
she did not deserve that.
Yes.
She did not deserve none of the heat.
She's getting none of it.
It should all be on Aries.
But Tiffany Haddish stood accountable.
This thing came out last week.
By the end of the week, apology was up.
Not even the week.
By the weekend.
That's accountability.
Not take somebody like the baby.
You said what you said on that stage.
You then doubled down on it.
Then you tripled down on it.
Then when your bottom line,
was affected, hey, y'all, I'm going to classes
and I'm going to learn to be a better person.
That's not accountability.
Okay.
So accountability is what Tiffany had.
Okay.
Because here's my thing.
I just asked me what to do.
So I'm with you, but here's my thing.
If he doesn't feel like he did,
if he doesn't feel like he did anything wrong.
Listen, by the way, if he doesn't feel like he did anything wrong,
that's on him.
Yeah.
That's on him.
You don't like, I don't like performative apologies either.
So it's just like, yo, if you apologize and it's sincere, hey, salute to you.
If you feel like you don't want to apologize, that's on you too.
Like I don't, you know, but either way, I'm saying, what does that do for the people is what I'm saying?
Like people want to be, it's like this court of public opinion wants to be jurors, judges, executioners, but they really can't do anything but yelling make noise.
It's like, what do you want?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the problem is sometimes the noise does affect your bottom line.
and then when it affects your bottom line,
you want to speak up because you care about your bottom line
because that's your livelihood.
And that's okay.
I just think that if we can get back to judging people by the intention,
the intention of blackface was to ridicule black people.
The intention of their sketch was to ridicule molesters.
Okay.
So what if you pull a...
But even though it wasn't funny,
the intention was still to ridicule the bad people.
Right.
Right.
And I think we can look at things like that and make people laugh in the process.
Now, I think the mistake you make it jokes like that, if you're going to do it, just ridicule the person.
You don't got to pretend to be the person.
Yeah, get the kids out.
That's all I'm saying.
Just ridicule a person.
You know what I mean?
But a lot of times we don't see that.
There's a great comedian that we all know in love.
It has a fantastic Michael Jackson joke.
You probably have laughed at it inappropriately.
And it was in the last couple of years.
And what's crazy about that joke?
is he's making fun of the victims.
Yes.
He's making fun of the victims.
Let's not get it fucked up.
Don't look at the name Michael Jackson and say,
oh, he's making fun of Michael, no, he's making fun of the victims.
You know what I'm talking about?
You know what I'm talking about?
You said it's goat level.
Goat level.
But he's making fun of victims, mouse.
He's making fun of, he's making fun of alleged victims.
I don't say victims.
That's what I'm saying.
And I think that's what the joke is.
I keep point.
That's what I think the joke is.
I think the joke is of the alleged.
No.
Of the victim.
I think if this comedian,
we're talking about knew that they were actual victims.
I don't know if he makes the same joke.
I still laugh no matter what.
That's true.
But I don't know if he makes the same joke.
The fact that the victims are alleged,
that's what the,
he doesn't,
he mentioned that in the joke.
But he doesn't make the joke from an alleged perspective.
He makes the joke from the perspective of this happened,
and y'all need to suck it up.
I think it's a goal level joke.
We're all hypocrites.
I'm mad.
I'm mad.
I'm mad.
I didn't think of it.
Wow.
We're all hypocrites is all I'm saying.
I was sitting in that motherfucker fucking crowd like,
this bad.
Circular firing squad, bro.
That's a smart.
That's circular fires,
that's why I say, be careful who you shoot that
because eventually you won't get shot.
And I thought Nicaragua was funny.
The difference is does it make you laugh?
And that's at the end of the day.
If it makes you laugh, if this sketch...
It might make you laugh and still be wrong.
Yeah.
But if it makes you laugh, there's...
Redeeming quality.
Yes.
If it makes you laugh, there's a redeeming quality.
If you just make me feel uncomfortable,
now I'm like, why'd you make me feel uncomfortable?
He makes a valid point.
Yeah.
Because then it goes back to what.
Women have been telling us for years.
Wrong attention.
Right attention.
from the wrong guy,
get away from me.
That same attention
or even less from the right guy.
Hey,
what up, bitch?
Oh, I'm in love.
And by the way,
women have been telling us
this shit about our content
for years.
Like literally.
Oh, that's why I listen.
Huh?
I listen.
What you mean?
I just say things
what they want me to say.
This guy is so great.
I only talk about what they want me to talk about.
This guy is crazy.
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What we got?
Church announcements.
I ain't got shit.
Jesus Christ, Christ.
Yeah.
Miles, what you got?
Trap karaoke.
We're in Philadelphia Thursday.
We're in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Friday and we are in New Orleans, Louisiana on Saturday.
Okay.
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What up, Mac?
What up, Fly, right?
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That's all I got.
That's right.
Mine is simple, October 8th.
Well, first of all, this week, new episode, a hell of a week.
We're back after a two-week hiatus.
Hey.
We got to take the same break as the Daily Show.
Today was off for two weeks.
Trevor's back this week.
We're back this week.
with a new episode Thursday night, 1130 on Comedy Central.
And the Mental Wealth Expo is October 8th here in New York City at the Marriott Marquis Times Square.
It's my second annual Mental Wealth Expo.
If you was there last year, you know it's a day of mental health and healing education.
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You don't know let me talk about nothing but rap.
That is crazy.
You said what?
You only hire me to talk about rap.
What do you mean?
I know about mental health.
Talked about a book.
I could have been on a panel.
I could have been on one of those panels.
It's silence in the youth.
You're not really the youth no more, mouse.
You got, you're not.
You're not.
You can.
You can't, no, Taylor actually is in Nila.
I'm 33.
And Naila, Naila's act.
Was he not in the room?
I said in the room.
You're not really the youth.
No, Mouth.
How old are you, Mous?
Telling me I'm not to use as much.
How old are you?
33.
Damn.
God, we, bro.
Do you use, Mous?
You got to get that.
30 years from you.
30 years from you.
40, King?
Yeah.
You mess that.
No, you 40, bro.
You 40, bro.
That's some hating ass shit.
No, you 40, bro.
What?
You're 40, bro.
Get a real Gap hoodie, bro.
Cut that shit out, dude.
You're like the Gap of Dan?
No.
Yes, it is.
They make Dap hoodies name?
This Dapper Dan and Gap have a collaboration.
You can't wear collab clothes no more.
You 40 years old, bro.
You're the Brooks brothers.
By the same shit.
By the way, Mouss is younger than a lot of these guys,
because a lot of these guys be on these podcasts
and just because you've had a podcast only for three years.
Bro, you're 40 plus.
Yeah.
All right?
Stop talking to me like I'm the old guy.
Oh, they become like big bro?
Yeah.
Like you're like, you know, you guys got to move out the way
and give us a young guy's pace.
Bro, you're 42.
Yeah.
I don't you fuck that's your podcast only three years old.
And cut it the fuck out.
The fuck is you talking about.
Move on the way.
Yeah.
You know the fuck.
Move out the way and go where.
Yeah.
We both going to be eating pancakes that I hop at the same time.
First of all.
I've never understood.
Now, radio, I won't even get to that.
I've never understood that thought process
when these niggas old, young,
like, you got to move out the way.
In a podcast, they can listen
whenever they want.
They don't want to listen to you.
It's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable.
Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor.
What are you saying?
Taylor jealous.
All right, hold on.
Go, go.
Ask it, ask it, ask it, ask it.
We got to go.
We got to go.
We got to go.
She was in Jamaica posting them third.
dress traps, people leaving her comments saying,
Shalameh way thick than you.
I did see a few of those comments.
I did see that.
That was great.
Jealous is fuck.
I didn't even have a bikini on.
I still look thick than you.
Was that a waste of a bikini?
Stephen Silver 95 said,
would you rather have an athlete or engineer as a son-in-law?
Depends how good they are at both.
That's right.
What kind of athlete we're talking about?
Yeah, I mean.
He talked about like, is he going to be Michael Jordan,
LeBron James, Tom Brady?
Of course.
I would want that to be my husband.
And if they're engineer, is it going to be Elon Musk?
Yeah.
I take that shit, too.
It really depends.
Yeah, that's a broad question.
But a mediocre athlete or a mediocre engineer, I'm going to take mediocre engineer.
100%.
Me too.
I can explain my mediocre engineer way easier at the dinner table.
Yeah.
You don't even have to say he's been like, hey, what's your son up to?
He's playing basketball and turkey.
That's what I'm saying.
The thing about being a mediocre athlete, we know.
Yeah, yeah.
There's no such thing as a mediocre engineer.
You're just the engineer.
That's the goddamn dinner table.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just want them to be.
black. That's all I want.
For me. Do you agree? You want your kid to be black?
I want my son-in-law to be black. Your son-in-law. Oh, is that the question? Yes, it's
son-in-law. Oh, son-in-law. Oh, what does that mean? No, son-in-law. That means we have,
because me and Charlottom have daughters, so we're thinking. Oh, the person that your kid married.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Same thing. Same thing. Same thing. I still want to engineer. Yeah, I just
want them to do. I have no racial requirements for my son-law. I do. I do. I do. You got to be,
whatever you bring this house. And I'm not debating with nobody about that.
the Dr. Umah.
Right?
Take it up with Dr.
Umar.
This is a...
I just want my son a law to be
Nicaraguan, dude.
I really think it's...
Yeah.
We're naughty.
See how fun it is to be naughty?
You know, it's going to be funny.
In four years,
Nicolaugran's going to be one of the words
that white people can't say.
What?
Hey, where you going?
Nicaraguan.
I know over there.
I'll spend the weekend in N-word.
Whoa.
That's even worse.
That's worse.
And land?
I spent a lot of money in N-word.
Just Deonté Lamar said, if the Bible said it was okay to cheat, would you have sex with other women?
The Bible.
Your wife is the Bible.
Exactly.
I don't go to fuck about the Bible.
I don't cheat because the Bible tells me not to.
Cheek because my wife tells me not to.
The hell?
Yeah.
I don't think the Bible says don't cheat.
I think the Bible definitely says that.
It does.
Don't commit adultery.
Well, adultery is different.
Adultery is when you're married and you have sex with another person that is adult.
Yeah, but if you marry that person you have sex with, then it's not adultery.
Adultery is when you turn.
But what about the person, if you have sex with the person while you're married to another person that is adultery.
But if you marry that other person, now that's not.
But you already committed the adultery.
Why that man called Wesley Snipes an adulterer before you shot him?
Oh, because he was an old man.
He's just saying things.
And New Jackson
Adultero!
Your soul belongs in your heart.
Your soul is required in hell.
Nino ain't cheating that movie.
He wasn't even married.
What?
All right.
Okay, this is the last one.
Who's this from, Taylor?
Whoever said this,
life is all about learning and improving, right?
Oftentimes, people could be uncomfortable
next to people who've done questionable stuff.
But the Bible says we are supposed to learn and forgive.
But you think God would forgive the devil if the devil were to repent somehow.
Interesting.
I think God is already forgiven him.
He's already forgiven them.
Because forgiveness isn't for the person.
And forgiveness is for you.
You relieve yourself of the debt.
You relieve yourself of the burden of walking around angry and allowing someone to take up space.
So I think God has already forgiven the devil.
It hasn't worked for me yet.
Me neither.
It sounds good.
I've forgiven them in front of my therapists.
I've forgiven in front of my spiritual leaders.
Nothing works.
I know how to forgive.
I just refuse to forgive.
How do you forget?
I don't know.
I've tried it a million times.
It don't work.
I'm like,
forgiveness is as simple as saying no more.
It's really a mind fuck.
When they say forgive,
what do they say,
forgive and forget?
But you can't.
You can't.
It's impossible.
That's what triggers are.
That's another thing.
And I don't even know
what podcast you would discuss that on.
Like people at some point
were just saying words that just sounded good.
Oh,
forgive and forget.
The last person in the room is the weakest.
I don't know everyone to be the smartest person in the room.
Shut the fuck.
I just wrote about that.
Shut the fuck up.
I'm working on my new book.
I literally just wrote about that.
So when you talk about,
so I do think you can forgive,
but I think the only way to properly forgive
is to never forget.
So you don't end up in this situation again.
Yeah.
If I punch you on your face for no reason,
you forgive me and you forget it.
Well, you're going to drop your guard next time on the around.
I only forgive you if I can't beat you.
You haven't know what I'm saying?
You don't got a choice.
Nobody punch you in the face.
You're only going to forgive them if you can't beat them.
Yeah.
If you let them punch you in the face,
then clearly you didn't think you could beat them.
You have no choice but to forgive it.
Not that you could scrap,
and then you could be forgiven for punching me in my face.
Yeah, if we fight.
But I'm never going to forget that when I was sitting here under my bench,
you snuffing me.
So every time you're in this left, I'm watching you.
Like, now I forgive you.
I'm not holding against you.
But I'd be a damn fool to look this way every time you right here.
I don't know if I forgive as much as I just simply don't give a fuck.
I don't give a fuck way more than I.
Like, I just be like, like you're done to me.
Like, whatever.
Bye.
Tianaara.
Vamados.
Only people I don't look at as like a problem.
Like y'all know like there's a lot of people over the couple years that I've like been like,
yeah, I already did the most egregious thing to you.
Right?
Like, like, oh boy, that start that shit, I told him, I said the next time I see you, I'm going to spit on you.
Yeah.
And the next time I seen him, I spat on him.
You know what he did?
Nothing.
Right.
I have to forgive you now.
Ah.
I left it alone because I can't keep him.
I can't keep chasing.
I mean, you did what you said you was going to do.
I can't keep chasing an issue with somebody who don't want an issue.
Now, did you spit on him for real or was it a Harry-Style-style?
No, like I, we was walking.
Was it a Harry-Sty-Tiles, Chris Pine and may or may not have been spit?
No, no, it was a luggy, loogie.
It was a loogie.
Like, we were, was yellow.
It was, no, come on, I take care of my body.
Take care of my body.
That was nasal.
That's a soap.
Huh.
And depending where it lands, it is sexual assault.
It didn't land on the road.
Whoa.
This guy.
Mousy.
Wow.
This guy.
This guy.
I might be at a bee.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, you just spit on his crotch, bro.
That's his shit.
You know how that reads in a paper?
You know how
Mouse Jones is arrested for sexual assault because he spit on a man's crotch.
Whoa.
What the fuck, Mous?
Jesus.
That's why I'm holding your ear so big, bro.
Listen.
As always, you listen to his podcast.
If you listen to this podcast,
tell them,
that's it,
everything,
Miles, right?
Tell me what to find you.
Oh,
not going to.
And definitely not in the ink blotter
behind what Charleney said.
If you listen to this podcast,
you think we're smart,
you think we're intelligent,
you think we're brilliant.
But if you listen to this podcast
and you think we're just a couple of idiots
who don't know shit,
you're right, too.
It's the brilliant idiots podcast.
Thank you for listening.
Peace.
