The Brilliant Idiots - Nuke 4 Nuke

Episode Date: September 9, 2022

This week Charlamagne and Andrew join together once again, to discuss some trending topics such as Kanye West being upset over Adidas, and you know Andrew Schulz hates a complainer and had some things... to say about his deal with the company. Next, Mouse Jones joines the conversation where they began with their thoughts on Aries Spears and Tiffany Haddish pedophilia skit resurfacing, that suddenly turned into a conversation about where to draw the line between acting and child pornography. Within that discussion they get a little bit deeper about who should be able to get redemption, if did a crime. Furthermore, during this episode you also find out some interesting things the Scottish allegedly invented, only the "Brilliant Idiots" way! ********************************************************** Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://www.blackeffect.com/ Empty Thoughts Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-zRsExS9E0VBmwb9Cekdug/featured https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empty-thoughts-show/id1622292632 Empty Thoughts IG/Tik Tok https://www.instagram.com/emptythoughtsshow/ https://www.tiktok.com/discover/empty-thought-show Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I love the premise of this show. Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit. Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby. Yep, Shalemaine the guy. Andrew Shultz. We are the brilliant idiots. In this week's episode of the Brilliant Idiot's podcast is brought to you by us.
Starting point is 00:00:20 We don't have any pre-rego. Okay. So we could just start the show. Shout out Adidas. Salute to Adidas, man. Even though I'm wearing all Puma. I got Puma sneakers on. Saluta.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Adidas. Adidas. So what happened? I'm at Birdie Man, Alex said Birdie Man. I get out of Birdie Man. I get the first text message I come in from my friend Julie that goes, what did Charlemagne do? I go, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:00:43 And then it's Kanye West thing where he just goes. Charlemagne and Chris Jenna. I don't know. He just, get your popcorn ready. I don't know what Kanye was talking about. I have no idea. But he does that all the time. Whenever he goes into his rant modes on Instagram, somehow or another.
Starting point is 00:00:59 My name is going to come up in the rant. Yeah, which is interesting. You know what I mean? I actually, this was a while, a few weeks ago, because me and Kanye go back and forth, right? He'll call me about something. I won't agree. And he said this on his interview with Jason Leon Hollywood Unlock.
Starting point is 00:01:15 We'll argue, we'll curse at each other, blah, blah, blah. But I did, I reached out to him a few weeks ago just to see how he was doing. Yeah. You know, I didn't hear it back because he changes his number all the time. But I let his people know, like, yo, man, tell him I'm sending him positive energy, whatever, whatever. But I don't know where that came from. Nor do I care. It made it seem like you were talking to Chris Jenner or something like that.
Starting point is 00:01:36 He talks about me like I'm one of the elites. It's actually kind of flattering, bro. Like it's always the Clintons, Charlemagne, and the Jenners. Yo, it's really, I'm telling you, man, sometimes you don't understand how people perceive you. But I'm like, damn, if I'm one of the elites, are they, are they the elites? Would they be considered an elite? I mean, you're an elite. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I'm talking about, like, can get your got elite. Like, yeah. I think you know way more people that can get people got than the elites. Yeah, but get you got it and nobody knows. Like make it look like an accident. This is. Oh. That's different.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Yeah, the heart attack. I got a heart attack. No, no, no, no, no. Come on. The people we're talking about, come on, man. That's different. That's CBC, bro. You know what that CBC is.
Starting point is 00:02:23 What is it? I ain't talking about the congressional of black car because I'm talking about that Clinton body count. Oh, Clinton body. Yeah. Well, no, but that's how you know you. because when the people you beef with, they don't get killed, they kill themselves. Ooh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Or are you make it look like that. Well, that's what I meant. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think they actually kill themselves. No, but I'm serious. You could be that elite too, or somebody's like, yeah, I might as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:51 You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, you send somebody, like, you probably should, bro. You don't happen anymore. You don't happen anymore. Take note. Take note, like, cut it with the drive-bys. They got to be dried by a heart attack.
Starting point is 00:03:03 You know what I mean? So then we drove by pretty quick and then he just grabbed his heart. Somebody had a heart attack just thinking about what you might do to him. You know what I mean? Seriously, yo, that's a great point though. That's the next level.
Starting point is 00:03:14 The elites don't kill people. Their enemies die. They jump off of buildings. That's right. They have, you know, an aneurism. I read something. In Russia, there's been eight businessmen over the last six months
Starting point is 00:03:29 who have either committed suicide or just had like some random accident. And I'm like, really? Yeah. Like really? In January. I'm like, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I guess you really believed that? Yeah. But, hey, when you control the press, this is what I said happened. Yeah. This is true. This is true, bro. I really don't know what's going on with Kanye. I don't know what the stuff is with Adidas.
Starting point is 00:03:53 What is the thing? Adidas wanted to make a sneaker like one of his designs, but. And I can understand that. Without his approval, I guess. Yeah. If you created a design, which we know Yeezy has been very instrumental in doing as far as we know. If he's created these designs and then, you know, Adidas is coming in, like, creating sneakers with the same design. I don't know how that happens unless they contractually are able to do that.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I mean, I would imagine they're contractually able to. That's what I would think. Of course. Now, listen, I don't know the contract, but I imagine they're contractually able to do it. but he doesn't like that. So he's using public scrutiny and shame. Yeah. And the reality is,
Starting point is 00:04:34 is like, sneakers are hype. None of these sneakers are so high performance. Like, sneakers have become so good that, like, you can run in pretty much anything. You'll be okay. You can play basketball and pretty much anything. You'll be okay. So now it's all about hype.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And you hire Kanye for hype, right? So if Kanye shuts down the hype on a sneaker and calls it a knockoff easy, who the fuck is buying that? Yeah, but I mean, the thing about Yeezy, and I salute Yeezy, What Kanye is built with Easy is incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I mean, you know, I think they generated like $1.3 billion for Adidas last year. But Adidas is a $25 billion company. Like, Adidas is this sneaker in apparel line, a company of soccer, bro. The world's biggest sport, like all the biggest football players in the world are with Adidas. Like, once again, they're a $25 billion company. Not saying that Kanye didn't bring them so much cultural relevancy. for a certain audience, he absolutely positively did. For sure.
Starting point is 00:05:29 But it'll be okay. They're going to be okay, but like they weren't popping in America. Like I think Kanye made Adidas really pop in America. They haven't been popping America since run DMC, bro. I mean, but we never stopped wearing, I mean, at least for me, I never stopped wearing the shell to old and the Adidas. You're 70 years old. That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:52 That's your generation. It is. I never stopped. One, two. That's right. My Adidas. I never stopped wearing the shell toes in the track suits. But I do agree.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Kanye absolutely positively made Adidas culturally relevant to a certain generation, a certain demographic. But it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. Yeah. It's just an interesting strategy. It's like... Is it, though? Well, I think it's...
Starting point is 00:06:17 I mean, you saw Dave Chappelle do it with Netflix, I think. Didn't do it like this. Well, the approaches are different. Dave was on stage. Dave actually said, may I please have my whatever back after explaining his position. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:32 You know, direct. Yeah, he explained his position. Yeah. And then he told people not to watch it. Yeah. And what Kanye is basically doing to saying, we're not buying that.
Starting point is 00:06:43 We're not wearing that. That's not a easy. That's a fake easy. Which is in effect, you know, basically saying, hey, don't buy it. And at the end of the day, if Adidas is putting out a sneaker,
Starting point is 00:06:52 that people aren't going to buy. They just show it. So he's a lot of power. I think a lot of that orange and yellow shit that they keep posting with the ex-over. You like it? That shit looked kind of fire. I probably wouldn't get it
Starting point is 00:07:02 because it's not a Yeezy. Yes. But the design of it and the color way kind of fire. Exactly. It's the Chrysler 300. Easey as the Phantom. Because they couldn't afford the Phantom.
Starting point is 00:07:13 There you go. I just wonder if it's like, well, I think Kanye has a percentage of the company, right? Didn't they give him like a huge? I think it's a royalty. He gets like 15% royalty. On Yezzi.
Starting point is 00:07:24 itself? On just easy, not Adidas, on Yeezy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Easy is a subsidiary inside of Adidas. But I mean I think the number's 15% I could be wrong, so that means Adidas is the other 85, but Adidas is doing everything else. They're doing the manufacturing, they're
Starting point is 00:07:40 doing the distribution, you know, they're doing the promotion, the marketing, even though there's probably no bigger marketing than Kanye just posting on his Instagram page. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I don't know. I just don't know how it plays out. It is weird, though, because it's one of those situations where it's like, you took the bag, bro. You wanted the money. You took the money. And then it became incredibly successful.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And now you crying. Yeah. And it's just like you, you took the bag and then I'm not 100% certain, but I imagine that when you sell your IP and you sell your product. The deed is definitely owns the IP, which is why they're able to continue to do the colorways, and continue to redistribute other brands, other sneakers that he's already done. I'm sure they own the IP. And that's what you give up when you agree to. take the bag and you got a great bag and that deal was brilliant the way he did it. And I think it made him a billionaire. It's still brilliant. And he still gets to make his stuff. But that is the cost of doing that deal. If you wanted to do it by yourself and do all the infrastructure and
Starting point is 00:08:37 everything by yourself, maybe you couldn't have. Maybe you couldn't have. I think he maybe tried before when he was earlier in fashion and wasn't a success. There's no question now he probably could be because he's sad as such immense success. But that is the cost of the deal. It's kind of annoying, you keep seeing this happen over and over again, where people take the bag and then they complain about the rules that come with the bag. And the problem I have with that, because you're absolutely right, is that nobody seems to have like consistency, even with how we perceive these things. I remember everything. So I remember when there was the rants and the raves about, I need infrastructure. I need somebody to help me design. And Adidas is where you
Starting point is 00:09:20 chose to go. You chose rules. And by the way, even if you didn't choose those rules, you can negotiate your rules. You're still Kanye at the end of the day. Yes. You're Kanye. So a lot of this stuff that, you know, you might be complaining about. I feel like you could have probably got negotiated in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:09:34 You could have went back and negotiated after. Like once, it's like you're an athlete, right? You're with a team. You know you're going to have to resign. They would rather resign you earlier if they know you're a fucking superstar. Oh, that's a good analogy because it's like what he's doing now is kind of like what NFL players do because he's under contract, I think, until I think I read 2006. So he's like, no, I need to be renegotiating now. I see how much money,
Starting point is 00:09:59 how much motherfucking money y'all making. So I'm going to hold out. And to be honest with you, I understand his perspective. And if I'm someone who wears Hezies, I want what Kanye wants because you're protecting. I want what Yeh wants. Is that a thing? Well, no, it's Drake. I want with Kyle's. I want what, I like what Drake likes. Oh, I like with Drake like, but I'm so old. I'm like, is that a thing? I guess like if I wear Yeasies, right? I don't want a fake Easy floating around by the same company because it's going to devalue my easies. Like every time I see like a team Jordan, yeah, that kind of looks like a Jordan, you're like, why do we even have this around? Like you have a Walmart version of the sneaker that
Starting point is 00:10:39 like we all love and cherish? That's, and that's disrespectful to Kanye because it's like, that means Adidas doesn't look at Kanye. It doesn't look at Easy as a luxury brand. Well, they do and they're trying to create the, what is the opposite? The cheaper version? They are, and they're trying to use the equity that he's built. And that's why you purchase. But would they ever do that to a, if it was a luxury brand, you think they'd make a knock-off Gucci?
Starting point is 00:11:00 I mean, Lexus got Toyota. Usually most brands have like a luxury and then a mid-level. I mean, Team Jordan got Team Jordan. You know, I'm sure there's a version with like Nike and then just regular. And it's a really smart thing. It's like you use the equity of that one that's hard to buy. and it's hard to get and it sells out everywhere and then you have a more accessible version of it.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It's a great business, but I can also see as someone who just wants a luxury brand. Like if you just had Gucci, you're not going to have Gucci regular. Gucci regular. I see why he's frustrated, but you also took the deal. You wasn't frustrated when you got a billion dollars
Starting point is 00:11:38 in your fucking bank. And that's my thing too. Like, you know, everybody, we always want to have respect for Kanye and the things he's done in music and the things he's done in fashion. But it's like, man, when you're
Starting point is 00:11:48 when you're good when Kanye is good slavery was a choice we're too hung up on race you know we shouldn't just always be so focused on race boy but when things don't go right for Kanye
Starting point is 00:12:04 oh now of a sudden he's so oppressed and he's so marginalized do you know what I mean and the white man is doing them wrong and now you're talking to your wife and you're saying things like why do you get to have all to say so Because you're half white.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Well, guess what, man. Guess what? Marrying half white women is a choice. Right. Okay. That is just the reality of the situation. Do we need Dr. Umar to speak on? Do we need Dr. Umar to have a conversation with our good brother Kanye?
Starting point is 00:12:37 I would love for you to moderate that. I would love nothing more than for you to moderate, go. One question is a moderator. Okay. Dr. Umar, Johnson. Yeah. Could you please explain all good brother Kanye West why marrying half white women is a choice? I am totally against it and I want to make sure you understand why.
Starting point is 00:12:57 It's not because we have a name for it, the Snow Bunny Crisis. Okay. I am against the Snow Bunny crisis and I want your white listeners to understand because people be trying to say stuff like he's the Black Hitler. I'm not the Black Hitler. I am in no way interested in hurting or harming the life of any human. White, Asian, Chinese, I believe in respect in everybody. The reason I'm against interracial marriage envy in Charlemagne is because marriage is an economic contract.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Most women do not marry down in status. They marry up. Have you ever seen a rich white woman marry a broke-ass black man? No, you have not, and you never will. Because marriage ain't about love. It's not colorblind. And it is totally economic. This man has been cursed by the snow bunnies.
Starting point is 00:13:58 There's nothing we could do to save him. Yeah, it's just scrambling. And listen, he does it every time. And I don't even want to say people fall for it. People just buy into it. Yeah. Like he's got everybody posting like, it's a black square. No, for real.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Remember. Remember when everybody was posting the Black Square? And it's like everybody's posting that Adidas X-out. Oh, is that a thing now? Yes. Oh, wow. Everybody was doing it yesterday. So it's like, listen, man, if they did steal his idea,
Starting point is 00:14:34 it's not stealing. Exactly. That's the key. I don't know if it is, though. We have to look into that. I cannot believe. I truly cannot believe the amount of decisions. that you have to go through
Starting point is 00:14:46 in order to put something in production and then the contact with the factory and then getting the blanks made and the materials ready and then processing all of it especially with all the what is it called like you know we have the problems getting things
Starting point is 00:15:00 oh supply chain supply chain everything like making sure all that's good getting them into production I cannot believe that they would just overlook a fact that they're not allowed to do it yeah and I don't think a multi-billion dollar company would do that
Starting point is 00:15:14 because they know that's an easy lawsuit. It's not like Kanye's broke. You know what I'm saying? Kanye could sue the shit out of Adidas if he wanted to if they were doing something that wasn't, you know, in the contract. Here's a question I have. I thought that Kanye had 15% of the whole company. I didn't realize it was a easy loyalty thing because.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I mean, I could be wrong. I thought it was that he gets 50% of the royalties. Can you look that up, Alex? Maybe I thought it was because he got. And maybe he gets it. Because if he gets a percentage of the whole company, I bet the company's thinking, why is this guy mad?
Starting point is 00:15:40 You're going to get a piece of every one of these fake easy we put out. I did see him, no, it's not that. He don't get none of that money. But if he did, if he did, that's what I thought. I thought he got a piece of Adidas. No, no, I think it's just for the Yeezy brand. So under the partnership, Kanye retains 100% ownership of the Yeezy brand with full creative control over.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Oh, word. So he owns DiPeda. Yeah. Where you got that from? Sight your source. I mean, I was Google. Google. It's not, they don't have a website or nothing?
Starting point is 00:16:11 Interesting. That's a great deal then. So listen, if that's the case, he has every right to be met. He has 100% ownership of the easy brand. Yep. Ah, the sneakers are. Mouse, get on the mic, mouse. Why you got a pause, man?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Show love to your brother. Why do you got to pause? Why are you got to pause, man? That shouldn't be a pause. You said the sneakers on the- So the sneakers that we're talking about. So he started complaining when Adidas went crazy and they did the restock a few months ago. And then they was releasing like new colorways.
Starting point is 00:16:47 New colorways. He didn't approve. They've been doing the sandals. Yeah. So that's not easy, right? The, what is that? Like, Y, Z, Y. Like, that's not easy.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Okay. That's a, that's the Yeezy sneaker under Adi. We know that, yeah. The Yeezy brand is those clothes, like the paper machet clothes looking like shit. Like, yeah. But aren't the sneakers? Aren't the sneakers easy? Those are, that's the Yee Z sneaker for Adita.
Starting point is 00:17:12 But it's not under Yeezee. So, hold on like the 750s and all that, aren't you? That's Adidas. I don't believe that. No, no, I 100% believe that. Really? Yeah, yeah. So you mean you tell me all Kanye West sneakers are not with Adidas?
Starting point is 00:17:23 They're all with Adidas. Yes. But those aren't, that's not covered underneath the Yeezy. Hold on. I thought the knockoffs weren't under Yeezy. If you go, if you go look at the Yeezy site, if you go look at the Yeeys site or if you like going stock as well, you're looking for Yeezy, you're going to pull up a whole different thing than those sneakers that were just released
Starting point is 00:17:43 with all the new colorways and that he's complaining about it. So that's the difference. Yeah, I'm not... So if he owns 100% of Yee Z, yeah, they can't do anything with that. Oh, you're talking about Y, ZY. He can't do nothing with... Boom, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:55 They can't do it. They can't do anything with that. Got you, got you, got you. But Y, E, Z Y, Z Y, the sneaker, everything's sneaker that comes on that? That's Adidas. Okay. And that's pretty much what we've all been saying,
Starting point is 00:18:05 like, you sign that deal. You sign a deal, bro. I'm tired of this shit. You sign a deal. You know, why don't you boss up and buy yourself out of it, yeah? Why don't you boss up? Buy yourself back
Starting point is 00:18:18 You can't Buy yourself back is crazy Yeah But I get what you Everything Show's just saying It's true But you know
Starting point is 00:18:25 Like you said If you wanted infrastructure And it was infrastructure you didn't have And you do a deal With a company That gives you
Starting point is 00:18:32 That kind of infrastructure You know what I mean I mean I guess at this point It's all you can do Is get people to repost you on You know
Starting point is 00:18:42 Social media And I think that's the waste That's the waste Right Like you could use that I mean like you're really going through shit. I'm buying them shits, bro. I told you the orange.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I'm buying them. Not a R1. They're like, I ain't, Mao. They don't use these, though. If they were yeas? Oh, you're talking about the laces? Hold, let me show you these.
Starting point is 00:19:00 The laces wave runners are crazy. Hold on, let me show you these. These are ones I'm talking about. You know the ones that everybody kept posting with the X-N- So initially the sneaker doesn't have a lace. Adidas released a new version with the actual laces going through
Starting point is 00:19:13 and that's crazy. Yes. Hold on. Let me see that. This right here. These right. It looks like a Batman. Like one of those Batman carts.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Let me see. Yeah, that's terrible. You don't like these? That's terrible. Let me see that shit. If them shit was Jesus. Look at Drew. God, dude.
Starting point is 00:19:28 For Halloween coming to, bro? The black and orange color away? Halloween color. What? Are you getting in you right now? No, listen. The Halloweenzies? Yeah, but no.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Listen, the Hallelujahs? You wouldn't wear the Hallezyz? I wouldn't wear the Haleezy, bro. Don't shit. This is fire. No, these are fire, dude. Fires. Those are fire.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Bro, you can, listen, you can wear those with Kanye's merch and be a straight fly zombie. Yes. You know what I'm saying? You'll be a fly zombie for Halloween. Now, these are really fire if you think about it. You don't like the holidays? Why do you have to think about it? If it's not fire, if you have to think about it.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Some show, like, you know, like, oh, it's really fine. These are for intellectuals, bro. It's for intellectuals, bro. Listen, this is, this is, this is, this is. more European, a lot of Americans don't get this shit. But this shit right here, bro. Via. Yeah, I live in America.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I'm telling you, I'm seeing it's right on time for Halloween, yo, black and orange. Coveraway, bro. Halloween right around the corner. John was witness. I don't celebrate. I'm trying to tell you. No, I don't like you show him. Fire.
Starting point is 00:20:29 This shit is straight. It looks like a hero. It looks like somebody. How can I be homophobic? Bye. What? By the way, by the way, Yeezy. I mean, Adidas is slipping by not letting needs be a Yeezy, though.
Starting point is 00:20:42 These shit were a Yeezy. You know. He don't want it. He said, nah. Yeah, but he's coming off. I don't think, I don't think it's not that he doesn't want it. I think it's just the fact that he feels like, yo, y'all biting my shit, which I get.
Starting point is 00:20:55 No, but I think he's jealous that they improved it. I think, I think that they made a more fire sneaker, and he's trying to shut it down. Now, how do we know Kanye's team and him didn't design this? And this is all a PR spin. Look at that and look at the other sneaker. Look at the, I don't know. Adidas, but the fucking
Starting point is 00:21:15 those slippers that just came out. They came out of, right. That's all that is. They just brought together and put a lace through it. Yep. And they needed a
Starting point is 00:21:24 same exact same. That's what they needed, bro. I hated the fact that they had it. And they put a, it looks like they just put a, it looks like they put a hard. It's got crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I can even think about that, bro. Yo, you're right. Yeah. This is too, this is too easy sandals welded together, bro. And I don't know if they put a hard soul at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Bro. Wow. Wow. Wow, bro. I stand with Ye on this one, bro. Shut up. Yo, wow. You and Chris Jenner, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Wow. Me and Chris Jenna stand with Yeh. Listen, man, I hope Kanye gets, like, like any creative, I hope Kanye gets what he deserves. Send him healing energy. If he deserves it. And send him healing energy. I didn't go, I used to get wild yeasies. I know I got cut off that goddamn.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah. Oh, that Pete Davis will support. That's right. I'm going to still support my guy. Now you don't got no Uis. Well. And now you're looking. That's my body knockoffs.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Now you're back with Puma? No, no, no. I'm going to tell you something. All jokes aside, all jokes aside, the reason I love Puma and the reason I love Yeezy is because you got 40-plus-year-old people designing these shit. This shit is comfortable, bro. Yeah. They're thinking about us 40-something. But how old are the people sewn it together if you combine the age?
Starting point is 00:22:40 That's a median age of 16. Yeah, exactly. Let me see six eight-year-olds. That's 48. That's eight people, right? You got to do a median average. That's 16. If you're proud of yourself, you're proud of yourself.
Starting point is 00:22:56 No nobody want to have that conversation, though. What? You start having that conversation about child label. Everybody get quiet. You know what I mean? Because then we start realizing all our own hypocrisy. That's right. You don't get quiet.
Starting point is 00:23:06 We just turn the music up on our phone. Exactly. And guess who's making that? Conier. This shit is crazy. Who's making it? Who's making it? Who's making the phone?
Starting point is 00:23:13 Oh, shit. Salute to Kanye. I hope he gets... I'm trying to get a writing job with Andrew. Yeah. I hope he gets everything he deserves. But I do feel like... I do feel like...
Starting point is 00:23:24 How do you feel about this show? How do you feel about, you know, just interracial relationships? I believe in them. What? I believe in them. Do you really? Why is that a wild question? I believe in interracial.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Do you do really? Why is that a product of an interracial relationship? No, no, you're not. Interracial? I'm scott. Scottish. That's an ethnicity, buddy. Your race is white. It's two white people got together.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Scottish are the Africans in Europe, bro. Okay. But they're not the Africans of Africa. No, because we're not in Africa, but we're African. We're all African. In our soul, we're African. We're all African. You nigger. Nobody in Scott. Other words for us.
Starting point is 00:24:01 But look at what we do. We invented fried chicken in Europe. Did you know that? You invented it? Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. I know you're going. Just shut up.
Starting point is 00:24:10 No. Look at it. You've got fried chicken right there. Look at fried chicken right there. How do you invent somewhere based on your region? No, I invented it in Scottish. No, we invented before America. We invented before y'all.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Before us? Yes, I lost this one. I lost this one. We invented fried chicken, right? I got riding on the table. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Why you don't know the origins of fried chicken? You know, right?
Starting point is 00:24:37 This guy's crazy. This guy's crazy. We are, we are the Africans of Europe, pro. Why? You know the Africans are crazy. We invented fried chicken. All right, what else?
Starting point is 00:24:49 Number one. We wear face paint and skirts and shit. Did Africans invent fried chicken? African Americans did. African Americans, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did we invent fried chicken? I don't think we invented it. No, we did.
Starting point is 00:24:58 No, no, we did. Because Noren, um, right after, in the beginning stages of, I think right after slavery or beginning of segregation, I don't remember what, but we used, they used to sell fried chicken dishes. Time out. Time to fuck out.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Where do you think? You don't know how to do that. Stop. Everybody stopped. From Scottish people. See how they silence us? I'm silenced to you. No, I'm going to oppress you.
Starting point is 00:25:19 You see how they silence minorities, bro? You just said, no, no, no. Charlemagne just said, I don't know if it was, I don't know if it was the beginning of slavery. No, I said the end of slavery or the beginning of segregation. That they just started selling. They had a fried chicken. A white person invented, it was pretty known like a white person had to invent a fraction.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm not giving that to Colonel Sanders, bro. I don't know. I didn't say they made it taste good, but they had a show the slaves how to make it. That's not true. Where the fuck there was frying chicken
Starting point is 00:25:46 in Africa? What you mean? Where were you where were you deep frying chicken? But they might have learned that here in America. From who?
Starting point is 00:25:55 Scottish people. Haders? I'm agreeing with Andrew, unfortunately. Why can we know? I don't know Scottish people,
Starting point is 00:26:02 white people invite. But you know, Al, can you look up a Zulu warrior and then put it next a Braveheart and tell it me that there's different. Look up a Zulu warrior when he's ready to get
Starting point is 00:26:12 busy. When he's ready to knock if you bark or whatever. Tell the Google, the origins of fried chicken in America. Because you know the reason that they used to use chicken because chicken was a cheap meat. I get it, but to fry. Chicken was a cheap meat. See how y'all play us, bro?
Starting point is 00:26:24 That's a delicacy to us. I mean, it's a delicacy to me, too, but at the time. No, but now it was a cheap meat. Pull it up. Pull it up. Pull it up. Because I'm a cuisine, bro. I'm tired of this treatment, man.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Okay. There we go. See, look, this the almost. For frying and brine. raising chicken from their own cuisine. See, American fried chicken has its origins in slavery. They used to sell fried chicken dinners to make money. I'm not arguing that.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Nobody wanted to. Yeah, I'm not arguing. I'm saying, but Scottish people did. But then they have to fry that. Somebody had to teach them. Google what fried chicken is invented in USA? I refuse to believe that white people ever taught black people how to fry.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Scotland did. See, look, American style, fried chicken. You got to look, look, started in the American South. Started in the American South. Some people think the recipe came from Scottish immigrants. Some people being the Schultes. However, many believe it was bought from Africa. What is that?
Starting point is 00:27:22 Let me explain to you how Scottish people invented Steppin. I'm not going to lie. Scottish people have been to the Chachau Slide. All of them. I'm leaving this shit right here. I'm not going to lie. Scott's people invented tapgates in two. Look up to tap games.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Look up to tap dancing. Look up tap dancing. Oh, shit. Hold on. Wait, what's talking about you? Michael Flatley. So Scott of people have fried chicken and tap dancing? Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Y'all are original coons, bro. They call schoons, bro. I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm not gonna lie to this. We are schoon's, bro. Defendant. Go on now. Defender Andrew Shott.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Charlotte dead. Freedom. Look, Charlotte. We invented freedom. We invented freedom. Defending Shorts is hard. Defending Shoe is hard. But that is for you like that.
Starting point is 00:28:10 He's not racist. When he danced and that little side hair came out. That was an Irish dance. No, that's the side hair. No, when that side hair dropped. Go look and see if we didn't inventing dreadlocks. Go look and see because he got the computer. Go look and see if Scottish people didn't have done dreadlocks.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Look up braveheart. Tell me Mel Gibson. Rowdy Rebel got his name from a Scottish person. How? Roddy, Roddy, Roddy, right. I know Roddy Pipe was Irish. Come on, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I don't know. Oh, are we all the same, y'all? Yes. Wow, bro. How the tables turn. Oh, my God, man. Listen, this is the brilliant idiotous podcast. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:49 What else we got, Taylor? Oh. What happened? What else did they have been? The TV? Y'all like TV? What do you see that? I don't even know what any of that shit is.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Listen. Nothing that anybody uses. The steam hammer, you don't got a gun? That's what that is? No. No, no. Why are you listening to that? No.
Starting point is 00:29:12 You're a steamheamer. You're not a gang. Say what? Europeans really were the earliest civilizations with dreadlocks. Of course we did, bro. Get the fuck out of this. Man, you can't Google anything. Just say.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Well, pull it up there. I need to see it for myself. I didn't know. See, I got rid of mine. Damn, I got to look up. So we might have more in common with the Scottish than anything. I'm telling you, bro. All I'm hearing is that there was a lot of black people in the Scottish region.
Starting point is 00:29:37 That's exactly it. That's what I'm here. Bro, you black, bro. No, no, no. I'm in, he told you. No, no. I'm African, bro. No.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I'm white African. You're right. I'm North African. White African. Yo, you should do post Malone over. Yeah, white African. White African. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Oh, Bob Marley was what? Scottish. Part Scottish. Some of the earliest depictions of red lives. Thank you. That's where he got his soul from. What? We invented.
Starting point is 00:30:06 We invented reggae, bro. Y'all put the gay in reggae. Bob Molly was really Scottish? Yeah. We put the rat What are you doing? Yo Hold on
Starting point is 00:30:20 Bob Molly was really Part Scottish Yes, bro I knew he was half white or something Like type Go to way to dreadlocks From
Starting point is 00:30:27 Bup Bup Buk See where he's from You click that one No click the first one What people also ask Yo Ben hated the police
Starting point is 00:30:33 I shot the sheriff Who do you think? You know the first police I knew that The first police was Scottish Ancient Egypt is the true birthplace at Dreadlocks. Say again? No, say it again.
Starting point is 00:30:46 You heard it. You've heard three times. Wait, well, look, because too many people were saying that the first police were what? The first police were Scottish. Exactly. Keep your enemies close. The first police were not Scottish. They were.
Starting point is 00:30:55 No, they weren't. They were. The first police were slave patrols in Virginia and Carolina. Which were Scottish people. Which were Scottish people. They were? Enemies close and your enemies closer. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:31:03 What is that saying? Keep your friends close to enemies closer. The people's out there with the homies. He's like, yo, go, go, go, go, go, go to the north. y'all wasn't doing that. Yes, we were, bro. You know, the fuck y'all was. Y'all was burning us back.
Starting point is 00:31:14 No, we weren't. Yeah, slave patrol. That was their job. Not only the English ones. The Scottish was like, get up there, the word patrol is actually Scottish. No, it's not. For police.
Starting point is 00:31:22 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, it's not. No, it's not. Oh, my God. Also, also been a bunch of y'all. Listen, we're going to pay some bills, and we're going to come back. Yep.
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Starting point is 00:32:47 Tiffany Haddish, Ari Spears. What are the thoughts? I don't think Tiffany Hadish should be wrapped up in this. Okay. I've seen the clip, yeah. I don't think Tiffany Haddish should be wrapped up in this. I've been saw this video years ago.
Starting point is 00:32:59 That's what I'm saying. This is old. Yeah, I saw this video years. It was on funny or die. I mean, I literally saw it like years ago. It was like 2013, 2014. But show you. I really want to hear your perspective as a comedian.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Cut it out, man. Come on, yo. Come on, man. What about it? Which one? I only saw one. Road tripper. What was the movie's shoes?
Starting point is 00:33:31 No, man. The sketch with Harry Spears. No, no. I saw that shit, man. What did you think? Not funny enough for how gross. It wasn't funny. It wasn't funny.
Starting point is 00:33:44 We know that. Yeah. I never thought it was funny when I saw it way back to the day. No one paid any mind to it back then. No, that's not the only reason nobody paid any mind to it. The other reason nobody paid any mind to it
Starting point is 00:33:55 because whether people want to admit it or not, and nobody does because nobody wants to be canceled. That kind of content was so the norm. From movies to television to sketches, for whatever reason. To where they went? Yes. That was a little extra.
Starting point is 00:34:09 No, it was not. I can tell you, by the way, I'm not going to do it. do that. If y'all want to cancel people, you do your own fucking homework. Okay, but I can point to so many movies that had scenes like that. I mean, I'll give y'all one. Yeah, what's a movie? Because it's a movie. Nicole Kidman and Burr. In that movie, she thought that her husband was reincarnated as a 10-year-old. Yeah. There's a whole scene with them in the tub together and, you know, throughout the movie, she's talking to him sexually, right? Yeah. And it's like back, and I had to look
Starting point is 00:34:42 this stuff because I'm like, yo, there had to be backlash for this back in the day. And it was. It just wasn't no end of it. You know what I mean? And back then the movie studio stood next to Nicole and said, no, this is art. Well, yeah, because white woman. Like that wasn't going, like, when you said that, I was like, I never heard of it.
Starting point is 00:34:58 But when you started playing, I'm like, yeah, there was no, it's Nicole kidding. I think there's also like female to male pedophilia isn't looked at as bad. I think if they were black, it would be different. I think if that... I'm not saying that that's not the case. But I think that like when a girl does something too.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah, it's a little less, because it's a, it's a, it's a male. It's like a female teacher and fucks a student. Nobody cares. Yeah. Oh, like one, like shouting out to get, oh, we wish that was me with my teacher. Exactly. But when it's wrapped around, we're all like, oh, that's disgusting. How did you?
Starting point is 00:35:28 And how many comedians have made Michael Jackson jokes? How many comedians have made all Kelly jokes? And you know what? I was having this discussion with somebody yesterday and they was like, well, you know, it's different because there was kids in the actual video. But I'm like, well, you know, depending on what you. believe is actual victims in the Michael Jackson situation.
Starting point is 00:35:46 But that's the thing. I mean, that's the difference. It's like, it's just got to be funny, man. At the end of the day, it has to be funny. I don't think there's no way to make that funny. And I love comedy. I love people that push the limit, but I don't think that clip, I don't think, I don't care. There was nothing funny about that.
Starting point is 00:36:03 That's what I'm saying. And it was, and it was not funny because of the way they were joking about it. There's ways to make that funny. Yeah. But they were just doing the. thing instead of eluding to it. So it's like if the
Starting point is 00:36:15 in that sketch, if the pedophile's trying to control himself and the kid keeps saying things that would turn on a pedophile, but he's got to pretend like it doesn't turn him on. There's the tension that creates funny. Just rubbing baby oil on a kid's back or having him pump his super soak or whatever like that. Like it just
Starting point is 00:36:32 this is not how funny works. I get what you're saying. And mouse is right too. You know, like Tiffany. Oh, Tiffany did. Tiffany called an unnecessary script. Yeah. Because at the time she's an up-and-coming comedian. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:43 Aries is just coming off mad TV. You know, Aries is like, yo, I got a sketch. I'm working on some other things. Blah, blah, why don't you come be a part of the sketch? She plays the kid's mother in the sketch. Not justifying it, not making it right, but I can see how something like that happens. Plus, man, the question I'm constantly asking is
Starting point is 00:37:00 at some point, we all have to have a real conversation about old content, right? Because we come from a different era where a lot of things that shouldn't have been funny, Or shouldn't have been talked about or shouldn't have been made fun of. People used to. And there was a point where if you weren't going far, you probably weren't going far. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:21 That's the truth to the matter. Shock value everything was a thing. Whether it was books. Shock is okay. When done right? I mean, yeah, I think shock is okay. I just think that like for commie, there has to be some like misdirection. There has to be some tension.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And like that sketch just failed in doing that. So I think the sketch was more of a failure. I also think it didn't help the fact that like the allegations came first and then we saw the sketch. So we're watching the sketch and now you're filling in the holes. They're basically, yo, look at these pedophiles. Yeah. And here's the proof. So now I'm watching this sketch going like, wait a minute, did he like putting a baby oil on the kids back?
Starting point is 00:38:02 Instead of watching it going, look at these hilarious comedians. Here's their sketch they made. And then we'd go, ah, this wasn't funny. But like, I see what they were trying to do. Yeah, which happened all the time. We look back at stuff now. I didn't see what they were trying to do, though. I mean, I guess to your point, because that's when you look at the sketch,
Starting point is 00:38:17 it just looks like, you know, they're just making fun of touching on kids. I guess what I would say is, like, in order to do a sketch like that, you got to be so far removed from wanting to do anything to a kid. Come on. I'm not listening. We don't think that they're actual child molest. That's what I'm saying. Like, you would never, if you actually were, you would never do a sketch like that
Starting point is 00:38:37 because it outs you. Well, I don't know. Drill rappers would beg the difference. Hey, drill rappers would beg the difference. There's a lot of drill rappers that would beg the difference. I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, man. I'm just saying. I think what we're forgetting about this situation here is I don't think anyone would have paid it any money
Starting point is 00:38:57 if Ari Spears would have shut the fuck up about old girl. Oh, shit. Is this what brought it out? Yes, that happens all the time. That's not true. That's not true. No one would have paid this any money. mine. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:39:09 No, I'm gonna tell you why I would have paid any mind. That's not true. Because they're like, who fuck is Ari's Spears? But now he's in the line, he's in the spot like for dissing this woman who's mind her business. Arias is like the B side of this whole story. Like if Tiffany had, anybody that's a star like Tiffany and you get child molester next to you and somebody accusing you or that, it's going to be a story, bro.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Like, you know, that's what it is. Like, it just is what it is. Yes. Like, she's the, she's the main drawing. this. If it was just Aries, it wouldn't be a story. If it was, being that it's Tiffany and Aries, it's a bigger deal.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I didn't hear nothing about this story until he says something about that girl. I understand. Because when the person didn't find a lawsuit until after. I understand what who's weak? No, no, I understand what you're saying. Like, I think what you're saying is
Starting point is 00:39:56 in order for it to become a story, you need an A-list celebrity. Yeah. And Tiffany's that. But I agree with you, which is nobody's going to go digging for it. and trying to make Aries look bad if he doesn't say that about Lizzo. We see this all the time with cancer culture. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I get what you're saying, but this isn't that kind of situation because a woman filed a lawsuit. This isn't somebody on Twitter who found the old clip and said, hey, look at what Aries was doing. Oh, wait a minute. The lawsuit is separate? Yes, man. Wait, what? A woman that used to be Tiffany's friend filed a lawsuit against Aries and Tiffany Haddish. It has nothing to do.
Starting point is 00:40:36 About what? About the sketch. Those were her kids in the sketch. And she said her kids are traumatized. Oh. Oh, well, now it makes it even fucking weirder because Did she allow them to do the sketch? Right.
Starting point is 00:40:48 You just allowed your kids to do this. Oh, no, this has been going on for a while. She's been trying to get them for a while. So now you've been trying to get them for a while. So now you prove my point. If this has been going on for a while and we just caught wind of it now, it's directly because Aries Spitz ran his mouth. No, mouse.
Starting point is 00:41:03 No. The woman filed a lawsuit. after the Lizzo situation. This has nothing to do with Lizzo. This has been going on for the past few years. It had nothing to do with Lizzo. I'm saying the public... She just filed a lawsuit last week.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I'm saying the public seeing it and this being this big array, it's directly affected to... No. Either way, it doesn't matter. It doesn't regardless. She filed the lawsuit. Sure.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Reference this video. People went to go look for the video. And somebody put the video out with the lawsuit as well. They knew what they, you know what they were doing. But once again, man, I'm telling you, people were making... these kind of jokes. Sarah Silverman, she tweeted
Starting point is 00:41:39 one time, hey, is it considered molestation if the child makes the first move? I'm going to need a quick answer on this. She had to apologize four years later. Right. But my point is, will always be, for some reason, people used to make these kind of jokes. Was it ever acceptable? No. But was it accepted?
Starting point is 00:41:55 Yes. But it's much like we say about Twitter back in the day, right? It was the wow, wow. There were no boundaries. Oh, my God. We're creating civilization as we go. Oh, my God. So now we know what's allowed, what's not allowed, what's too far, what's not too far,
Starting point is 00:42:10 and to whatever how it works out for you, we acknowledge that we're going too far. Yeah. But do we, I'm gonna tell you what I mean by that. Do we acknowledge the actual issue or do, if it's somebody we don't like,
Starting point is 00:42:25 then we go extra harder to act like we're against whatever it is they did, in real time. Because. Ooh, it depends on, that's the thing about being a fucking asshole, right? Like, that's the thing about, like even i'll take me for example right like even you know coming up in the shit and like knowing who i am and being like all right well i'm not somebody who's always going to agree with shit and i get a kick out of
Starting point is 00:42:46 my opinions all right if i'm that unlikable i'm going to have to deal with some shit same thing with everybody here we all have to deal with some level of bullshit because we're our our foundation is rooted in like the uncomfortability of it all you get what i'm saying but even if we did. But my son is absolutely right. But even if we weren't those people, we're successful. And when you're successful, they want to see you fall.
Starting point is 00:43:11 It's going to come with a group of people who just want to see you for. Yeah. It's really just that simple. But I think LeBron has a lot less people that want to see him fall than all of us do, though. Proportionally. But, Bo, all of us do, though. That's what we, I think sometimes we get caught up in like social media and we think
Starting point is 00:43:28 that's the world and those people that are constantly telling you that Good job, good job, good job. You ain't shit. No, not good job. Fuck you. You ain't shit. Blaszy Blossie. You think, damn, nobody likes this individual,
Starting point is 00:43:37 but, yo, everybody has more supporters than people who don't support them. Yeah, I agree. I just, I don't know. I think that the weird thing about it is, like, seeing an actual child do something sexual and knowing that an adult told them to do the sexual thing. And that, to me, makes it different than, like, just saying words. And what you just said, Schultz, and maybe it's different in the Tiffany
Starting point is 00:43:58 thing. And you see, I even put Tiffany first, but I shouldn't have this different in the Aries-Tiffany thing. are as different with a stand-up comedian because there's no checks and balances, right? There's no child with a stand-up. There's no child that's just a joke. It's being told to do anything. There's no child getting baby oil put on them.
Starting point is 00:44:14 There's no child in a bathtub with you. There's no kid. So what about the movies? What about the movies who depict these things? That's what. Why does the talent always get to fall? Why not the writers, the producers, the directors, the production company, the network, that aired this shit. The person has to agree to it.
Starting point is 00:44:31 What do you mean? Like, it's like what show's the story. Everybody has to agree to it. The checks and balances. But everybody has to agree to it. Them kids can't do shit in the movies. You got to sign a consent form. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:44:39 So the parents got signed the consent form. It's weird. So the person who's responsible for him is the parent. We don't got to tell all the stories, bro. That's another thing. It's like it's for the art. It's like,
Starting point is 00:44:48 I don't need that story. Now, that's what I agree with. Yeah, yeah. I've agreed with that. I've agreed with that. I've agreed with that. I mean, we've all said in a blackmail where it's like,
Starting point is 00:44:56 you know, we don't need another slave movie, bro. we've had them, bro. I don't need every story, bro. I don't need every... I think in regards to slavery, sure, we, like, overkilled it, but I think some stories should be told
Starting point is 00:45:10 that way some things can be addressed because if you don't really depict things all the way through, like, to its core, we can't really learn from the mistakes. So being able to watch it, we can correct it and be like, oh, that's wrong.
Starting point is 00:45:21 That's why we have documentaries. That's why, and we can tell, like, we don't need the kid to, we know what molestation is. We don't need it. act it out. I don't need to see a kid fucking scream
Starting point is 00:45:31 and hold a mattress. Yeah, like to say what happened. You can see an adult walk in the room and fade to black and kind of like... I also feel like that with adults too.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I feel like that like we don't need to always see a woman getting raped. We don't need to see that. We don't need to see... Does it not hit the same in the documentary when she's talking about it?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Like you need a visual? Like, think about when they see us... Oh, go ahead. I'm not saying that the skit was good, but I'm saying in a sense of I think we had this conversation not too long ago,
Starting point is 00:45:57 or was it, with Jock and he was like, you don't got to say the N word to get your point across. Oh, that was weird. I mean, you kind of do. Jock was talking about the F word. Oh. When Kendrick was said the F word on a. And that song, it was necessary.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Well, that's where me and him disagreed. No, and that song it was necessary. I agree. And you know why? Because if you listen to that song. He's speaking from the aspect of a, of a. By somebody who didn't know any better. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:22 By the end of the song, he's not saying it no more. He's saying the F word. Yeah. To let y'all know, this is how I've grown. this how I evolved, but back then this is what we used to say. He even said it like a child. He said it multiple times with that little high pitch boy, he said
Starting point is 00:46:35 it as a child, but by the end, once he's learned and talked to people in that community, talk to his aunt who transitioned, he's saying the F word now. That's a cousin. That's great art. I just feel like visually, we don't always got to see that shit, bro. I don't need, like when I was thinking about it. Would you be cool with a white guy doing that same thing with the N-word? No.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Depends. They did it on the Django. I mean, they've done it. No, you're right. No, they do it in period pieces. She's right. They do it in period pieces all the time. I'm not mad at that. No, but that's not.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And by the way, that can get you can't. That's the wild part, right? If they wanted to, they could go back to Django and get Leonardo DiCaprio out to paint and couple that with the fact he's like 25-year-olds and say he's, isn't that a lot of my favorite movie? If they don't, this is tricky. This is a tricky. Because you need to depict. Mark this, Alex.
Starting point is 00:47:23 No, no, no, no. We show said this is a trick. He's revving up. You gotta have white people saying the N-word and being awful to black people if you're doing slavery movies because we're depicting how atrocious slavery is. If back in the day white people
Starting point is 00:47:43 are talking to black people like, hello, sir, would you mind putting that over there? It's not realistic. Or if they're like filtering. Nobody's going to believe it was that bad. Or if they're filtering out the N-word. Or if it's like, you motherfucker fucking piece of. garbage
Starting point is 00:47:54 you don't want it like yeah no this is the other thing do you know how much of our culture we lose if we get rid of everything that was toxic and inappropriate we lose we definitely lose all our favorite rational we lose movies everything
Starting point is 00:48:09 I'm watching juice over the weekend I love juice oh yeah just will get canceled absolutely all my episode is supposed to be in high school smashing the nurse smashing Cindy from in vogue who was a nurse her husband sitting there like
Starting point is 00:48:22 man you're taking this saved the children's shit a little too far. There's a point. The biggest hater. There's a point later in the movie where they start arguing, and she goes, I'm not one of your little high school friends. No shit. So now you're admitting that you know you have culpability.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Like, come on. Like, remember, they got Beyonce and Lizzo over this fast thing. Them talking, the way they was talking about Bishop's father? It's Bishop. Bishop and Tupac. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they was talking about them all crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And by the way, it was packed them up. for that. That's right. Just wheeled a low shoes. And it's not just a hip-hop thing. It's an American culture thing. American culture, black, white. If you were in entertainment, it was wild. And I think collectively the industry from TV to movies to audio to comedy,
Starting point is 00:49:09 everybody to just put out one mass statement and say, look, you weren't here. You weren't around for the 1990s in the early 2000s and the 80s. And shit was wild. It was the Wild West. We know this, okay? But we've evolved. Everybody's evolved. Entertainment is evolved.
Starting point is 00:49:28 We're not on that no more. So if y'all find some old shit, regardless of what it is. I don't care if it's the comedians in Blackface. I don't care if it's, no, no, no, you got to stop. Because if you think that's, there was never a time where that's funny. What do you mean? Blackface, it was all, from the time it was happening, people were saying, this shouldn't be happened. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Robert Downey Jr.? That's not true. And Travick Thunder? That's not funny. You had late night. That was a good one. Jimmy Kimmel painted his whole body brown to play Call Malone. Nobody said anything.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Jimmy Fallon put blackface on a pretend to be Chris Rock. And that was on SNL. These were big time major network shows. And I was a kid when that happened. And I was hearing people like, no, that shouldn't happen. You never heard of that mouse. Well, I'm not saying you didn't. I never did.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Here's the thing that people don't, it's discussion people don't want to have because a lot of people are not, and myself included, not as well. versus what black face actually was. Like black face, like painting white people up as the black Sambo character. Yes. And having them act in the most insulting way and stereotypical way to black people is different than just looking like a person who is famous.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Now, we've blended these things into the same thing, but they are separate. One is for the purpose of being racist. The other is for the purpose of doing. an impression. But it'll go, those are separate things. Yes, I agree. But it also goes back
Starting point is 00:50:56 to what me and you said earlier what we agreed upon is we don't need every story. No, no. We didn't need Jimmy Kimmel. But do you, but Bob,
Starting point is 00:51:04 do you real quick on that? Real quick on that. I think if like, like right now we can't sit here and name a single blackface character or movie. Right? Like, can you?
Starting point is 00:51:12 Outside of Robert Downey? No, no, I mean talking back in the day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The first birthday nation, the first birthday nation like all those people were he means name the person name only i don't even know sambo was name or named the movie just like just like the character that was so offensive that like oh well brother manate well so going to what you said about the sambo character well sambo was a
Starting point is 00:51:32 that was a that was a architect to be disrespectful so that's one but also the other function of black face back in back in those days and christoprised speak on it um a little bit better than me uh it was to make sure they didn't have to hire black people well yeah they just so they were in black people back in these black and white film they just being a white person. That's what the whole minister shows about. So like that's two reasons why blackface is not okay. We're not arguing why it's, we all agree it's not
Starting point is 00:51:58 okay, right? What I'm saying is like if we were really familiar with what these characters were and how disrespectful they were and the purpose of them got you. I think that we could probably differentiate between an impression of a famous person
Starting point is 00:52:14 and just the straight disrespect of African Americans. Can we see where that line merges? But the fact that we're not as familiar, all of us are just not as familiar with these characters, we just go, yeah, why the fuck is this white person dressing up like a black person, paint their face? That's like that shit that they used to do. That's disrespectful. Fuck this.
Starting point is 00:52:33 And to be honest, it's not up to me to decide if it's right or wrong. Right. But I think the more familiar we are with our past, we could at least go, there's levels to this and go, maybe Jimmy Fallon isn't as bad as the guy who is at what, Amos and Andy? Yeah. Maybe it's not as bad. Maybe it's that's not. That was made to make black people feel bad and laugh at them.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And this is made to make Carl Malone feel bad. He should be made to feel bad. And I think you still can make fun of him. And you don't need the paint. Yeah, you know. And you can do the voice. You can do the whole thing. You know who gets to decide that?
Starting point is 00:53:10 Black people. You guys get to decide what the rule is because it's you. Oh, no. Well, listen, if he wants to take the comedic risk, do you think everybody can decide you're just got to deal with outrage I guess what I'm saying is like each culture gets to decide
Starting point is 00:53:24 like what they think is going too far right and where the line is for them and that's up to you guys and then the people can take the risk and I think what we're trying to tell you guys we don't know what now we do there was a time
Starting point is 00:53:38 there was no line bro yeah there just simply wasn't and everybody can sit around and act like that's not true that absolutely is the I agree with you And I think that was my major point. But that's also why I give so much grace
Starting point is 00:53:51 because even when you say something like, no, you can't forgive this person for blackface, whatever. It's like, bro, if they did that to us? If they did that to hip-hop culture? But it's not. That's a false equivalency. No, it's not. Every time you said that to me,
Starting point is 00:54:05 I said back to you, it's a false equivalency. I'm going to tell you why. I can tell you some things right now that some of your favorite rappers have said, which I won't. Because once again, if you want to cancel somebody, do your own fucking homework. You'd be like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Because guess what? It goes against everything you said you care about. You just said you've got to protect children. Yeah. You know what I mean? My point is none of us. But when it comes to content, no.
Starting point is 00:54:27 When it comes to content, yes, are clean and should be above reproach. But when you flipped it, that's all I'm saying. I agree with you, no one's above reproach. I didn't like the way you flipped
Starting point is 00:54:37 and you said if they did that to us. Oh, you mean if they did that to us on top of everything else that's been put on us? No, I'm just talking about from an entertainment content perspective. It's important. You can't. You can't, we can't, we can't marginalize it, right? We can't isolate that and say like, oh, just in content. Even black people's voice being heard in the content space was a way hard
Starting point is 00:54:56 to fight than what, what, what? But that's my point. So it's like, yo, this is what they do, right? Dale, two things happen in these situations. Black people hear old content from other black people and weaponize it against black people. Like people that they may not like, may not agree with, and they use it against them. Definitely. And then white people use it as a way to be like, well, I told you so.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I didn't want to fuck with them no way. Yes. We shouldn't have had them in here anyway. Right. So we're all cannibalizing each other. That's what, the only point I'm making with all of this shit when it comes to old content is this a circular firing squad, baby.
Starting point is 00:55:25 And I guarantee you if you've been around long enough, it's only a matter of time for you get shot. I think it's more like this. It's like there's a weapon that exists now and it can be used when you want. And we see this happen with different movements, right? We saw it happen with me too. It's like, oh, here's a new weapon. I don't like this guy.
Starting point is 00:55:40 He didn't call me back. Me too. Me too, right? And what we have to decide is, if we want that weapon. And eventually what happens is what happens with like nuclear weapons now.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I would just about say, is it like nuke? Mutually assured destruction. So everyone just... If everybody got a nuke, now everybody behaves. Right? Everybody's just chilling right now.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Guys are making sure we call women there. I'll say this. I know somebody who went at somebody and that person's team said, you sure? Uh-uh. Don't forget about this.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Well, I'll press the button on this. the day and repost this and remind everybody of what you said that person backtrack the next day. See? You know what I'm saying? Mutually assured destruction. I like that. That's where we're all headed if we continue to go down to the back. And I know people will say things like, oh, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:34 Tiffany's your friends, you're making an excuse for it. No, I'm standing up for the content. Yeah. You know what I mean? Meaning that we all have some shit that motherfuckers can use against us. You're saying because of the time that content should be allowed to It was fucked up We can acknowledge it was fucked up
Starting point is 00:56:50 It should have never happened But it did happen It was a failure It was a failure But it was a failure But even some of our shit That slapped Shouldn't have happened
Starting point is 00:57:00 Yeah that's true Sure I just gave you two examples That we cut out Those are big records You didn't give me anything Triple platinum Quadrant triple platinum
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah We're talking about movies That we can all go back And watch that we all consider classics But you watch it now You like, but movies are different because there's a time stamp. There is a time stand where you're able to say this.
Starting point is 00:57:21 What do you mean? He said little rascal. What happened in that? I never seen a little rascal. Oh, you're talking about it. I'm like the run I grew up on. It was pretty safe. No, no, no, no what mouse is saying should be correct, but that's not the case.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I think it's like, I think movies is like, oh, timestamp. No, but that's not the case. What you're saying should be correct, but it's not the case because we see it all the time. They take all of this old shit, even if it's timestamp and still try to paint you with that brush today? Well, because I think it's a bit different because that's your... Well, maybe that's the rule. It's like if you want to molest, like make a moody out of it.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yeah. All right. You know what I mean? I'm sorry, guys. Put some working. He's got you, by the way? Higher director. By the way, shows has a point because I don't know why isn't Hollywood being held more
Starting point is 00:58:05 accountable. You know what I mean? You can't hold Hollywood accountable because they're protected by the fact that the parent said okay. will have their time, I think. Their redemption? No, what is it? No, not the redemption.
Starting point is 00:58:19 They're reckoning. Yeah, yeah. No, they won't. They will not. No, they won't. No, they won't. It's a billion-dollar industry. No, they won't.
Starting point is 00:58:24 To a point that you are making, I think, like, yeah, nukes is having, like, content against each other, but the real weapon is the tongue, like the power of the tongue. And then also, I don't think you guys should scrub everything off the internet, because, again, it's like, how are you going to learn from the past? I agree with not. Like, if you watch, you guys watch the game of the drones. Do you watch Game of Thrones?
Starting point is 00:58:48 The new season and they cut the mom open Like the dad was like, I want the son, da-da-da, and then the son end up dying. But watching that and how gruesome it was. Like this season is very gruesome. They're showing like the inside of people's guts when it dies. But it's like even though like if you were to see that today, you know, you would automatically be like, yo, send this person to jail.
Starting point is 00:59:07 But it's like this was real life. No, no. It's a fiction. There's dragons. Yeah, there were no dragons. No, no, no. No, no to the dragons are real, but. On the Monk's corner, right?
Starting point is 00:59:17 Dragons aren't real? No. No. No. No, Chris, you're just going to let them disrespect your home. Like, what's up, Chris? Chris. I'm talking about the childbirth part.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I'm talking about, like, the real stuff within it. You're talking about the brutality of childbirth back in the day. Yes. Yeah. I just want all of us, uh, I'm just talking about shirkily content. I ain't talking about shit else. Mm-hmm. Just give each other.
Starting point is 00:59:43 the more grace, bro. Yes. Because all of us got some shit that could come back, the haunt us at any given one. I think the scariest part, or I think the part that people, with the ones that try with good intention, that's what I'll say,
Starting point is 00:59:53 because I do think there's evil people. I do think there's people that's looking for a moment and all of that. The people that are trying to be the gatekeepers are trying to be the first responders to that with good intentions, I think what scares them, it's a lot easier to let a movie or a song go past, right?
Starting point is 01:00:10 Because there's like this barrier of entry. like I wasn't there when they record the song. This movie, it's lights, camera action. You're depicting a character. It's different. What I think is different for like comedians or like podcasters. Like you're saying your thoughts. This is what you think on the inside.
Starting point is 01:00:26 You've dealt with this as a comedian. Not really, though. I just think that's what. Because it's still entertainment. Like you're saying things for entertainment. But you're not playing a character, right? It's a lot harder for somebody to tell that. It's not a character.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I just think that like we recognize what is funny is often naughty. It's often wrong and bad. And we recognize it. And that's why we can make it. And that's why I'm sure Ari's and Tiffany made the sketch. They're like, this is bad. And as a human being, we know what is right and moral, most of us. And we know what is wrong.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Right. And then sometimes what's wrong is really funny. And that's why on this podcast, sometimes before we're about to say something funny, we laugh to ourselves because we go, I'm about to say some shit I know is wrong. Right. But for whatever reason, it's funny. And comedy still exists to this day because we find humor in what is. naughty and bad. We would have got rid of it
Starting point is 01:01:14 thousands of years ago if we didn't still enjoy laughing with what's naughty. But the idea I think what is lost is that we don't recognize that it's wrong. We understand that it's wrong and when we're defending this. Like I know this isn't wrong. I know Scottish people aren't the Africans
Starting point is 01:01:30 of Europe, but it's funny to be a little naughty and make these connections or whatever. So that's all we're doing. It wasn't funny to me anymore. I thought you was serious. It was funny when I believed you. You know what? We're talking Now that I know he was trying to be funny, I'm disappointed. Can I be honest?
Starting point is 01:01:45 You know the dragons were real five minutes ago. Dragons are real. What are you talking about? I'm going to be honest. You're going to hate this, but like, um. Santa Claus isn't real. No. Yeah, I, I don't think, I don't think, uh, I don't think black people are black.
Starting point is 01:02:08 All right. No, he's right about that. Wait, what do you mean? He's right about that. I don't know what he means. Because black, black is a label. Sure. Scottish people are black.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Okay. Well, I don't know. Scottish people are Scottish. No. No, they're white. Listen, bro. We can identify as anything. Scottish people are dragons, bro.
Starting point is 01:02:28 We are dragons. You are dragons. Little dragons. We are dragons. We are dragons. We are dragons. I want to hear this, though. Why aren't black people black?
Starting point is 01:02:37 Say it in? I want to hear why? I didn't figure it out just yet. See what I'm saying? No, entertainment. That's what I'm saying. You see what he did? Everybody on the edge of the seat like,
Starting point is 01:02:46 see? No, Shultz walked this down. Because remember that's entertainment. Five minutes. But guess what? Somebody could take that one clip. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And just put that with no context, no nothing.
Starting point is 01:02:57 I don't think black people are black. And then he's going to show Mous and Shalama like, look at them tap dead. You know, he's right. Exactly. He's right. He's right. I don't think black people are black.
Starting point is 01:03:07 He's right. Mind you look, Charlotte may have no idea when you were going. He's right. Tell me more. You know, listen, we talk about that Magic Johnson clip of Magic Johnson on Breakfast Club. Somebody put that out, but they purposely cut the laster.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Oh, what? That's wrong. That's wrong. But that's my point. You know what I mean? They cut him laughing just to make it seem like I'm just... This from Sacramento. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 01:03:30 But that's my point. People know what they're doing, y'all. The moral of the stories, just give everybody grace, man, especially when it comes to old content. We didn't know no better. We really did. And we really did, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Did we not? Yeah. You know there's episodes of Guy Code that they don't play no one? Yeah, I know. The one about me. Hey! What are you doing? What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:03:54 Alex just bleeped out. I'm married. But, but... I'm married, bro. Listen, I'm... Think about this, though. Think about this. They edit it now.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I would rather say it because it's not that crazy. But that means standards and practices, all the producers, directors and writers and everybody else just now realizing three years ago like, oh. That's just slap, man. They didn't do it because they felt like
Starting point is 01:04:18 the joke was inappropriate. It did it because of the backlash. Exactly. The joke was funny. You go back to what I said about Twitter. It's a lot of the reason why... That's just not funny, bro. Slats.
Starting point is 01:04:31 That's a thank you. Pretty good. Like your... Bleep all it is. This bleep. Y'all are going to happen to miss out. It sounds crazyer now. When we're because we have, why?
Starting point is 01:04:43 Because no, no, no. It's no, it wasn't. This way got. It wasn't crazy. It wasn't crazy. What's this way got? Shows, what's this way got? This way got.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Hey, all jokes aside, all jokes aside. They really, and by the way, this is how you know that, like, media really programmed you. I'm married, yo. But listen. I'm married. This is how you know television. Why you keep doing this thing. Bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep.
Starting point is 01:05:08 But this is how you know. this is how you know programming really impacts you and if you think social media is really making people lose empathy. Right? Social media is making people lose empathy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Compassion and desensitizing people. Yeah. That's how we were. When we started watching certain shit on TV and certain shit that they were showing us, that's why we were desensitized to a lot of shit. I think we were dissentized, but I also think that we had a better understanding
Starting point is 01:05:32 of humor back then, which was Yes. We said things on purpose to be inappropriate and funny and dark. And like, and we did it knowing that it was wrong for the purpose of being inappropriate, funny,
Starting point is 01:05:47 and dark. Because there was no internet that desensitized us to what was. Right now, these kids have a desensitization. TV did that for us, though. Well, no, I think that... I think they're making it literal. I think they're making it literal right now. I think like...
Starting point is 01:06:00 Yes. When you listen to like Eminem lyrics back in the day, there was a barrier. We knew that this was a cartoon. We're like, he's not really doing these things. He's not lining you. kids up. What is that? I take seven kids from Columbine, put them all in line. Like, you're not literally doing that. He's like,
Starting point is 01:06:15 I'm going to be the worst human and say the worst things. Right. And I think that we applied that to a lot of like rap back in the day. We're like, yo, what is the craziest person? What would the craziest person do? I think it's a little different with Eminem and the rest of rap just because, damn, I don't want everything
Starting point is 01:06:31 I say to be, oh, he's so racially motivated. But it's a little different because they already looked at black people as, like, I think Hip-hop. Put it this way. Hip-hop avoids a lot of... Put it this way.
Starting point is 01:06:41 When you're deciding to, like, take on the name of, like, a horrible dictator, like, Noriega, right? Okay. You're not doing it. Noriega. No, it was a dictator? The original Noriega, yeah. Yeah, so... It was a drug dealer.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Well, that goes hand-in-hand when you're in... What was this country? Where was it? It was like... Nicaragua. Nicaragua. Whoa. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:02 You said what? What did you in Christmas? What did you in Christmas? First was you guys. Then he was like, you know, forget it, niggers. Waiwa. White people named that country for sure. You know, it was something else.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Absolutely. He was like, mani-o-ragwa. We're like, I got a better name. He's like, black people are there? Nicaragua. But he chose the name because he's like... We love you, Nori. Yo, shout to Nori.
Starting point is 01:07:26 No, 100%. It's like, but the name is here's this guy who's this powerful dictator. Everybody wanted to be the bad guy. who did bad. Like there are people who's, what is it? Oh, I'm like, what is it? I'm a band man. Something like the Taliban.
Starting point is 01:07:41 I'm all rubber band man's fly. Fly out of the Taliban. That's the Taliban. He's a Taliban. Fly like the Taliban. That was crazy. That's an insane thing. Well, you're trying to.
Starting point is 01:07:52 That's a double on time. Why? Because the plane crashed. But he's saying he's fly. But the plane crashed. But that wasn't, that was a good one time. I'm with you. But I'm saying, he was just thinking of things that everybody could.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I mean, you can't say fly like a bird. But the Taliban can't fly it? How do the Taliban fly? And I don't even rhyme and rubber band. It worked for Nelly Furtado. What she said? I'm like a bird. I want to fly away, but she couldn't.
Starting point is 01:08:18 That's an ain't because she's a human. Man, man, bro. No. But my point is, we're taking people. Wait, the Taliban really is dumb now. Now I know it's a different terror cell that did. No, but we thought it was Taliban. I thought the Taliban flew.
Starting point is 01:08:29 My stupid ass. Look, my stupid ass. My stupid ass is over this. You telling me the Taliban never flew? You know, it's even, if they, if he did say that on the collab, if he did say it because of 9-11, it's even crazy. Oh, that's why he said it because of 9-11. Like, Tiak could never say anything again. Well, when was Robert Band Man release?
Starting point is 01:08:47 It was after, after, after 9-11? Definitely after. It was 0-4, 05. Fly like the Taliban, like you want to be the people that flew the planes into the towers and killed thousands of people? To your point about that and the M&M Collinban line. And by the way, I'm going to be honest, this is something that I just learned. we thought we were making like even somebody like
Starting point is 01:09:05 when they used to make R. Kelly jokes, Michael Jackson jokes. Yeah. We thought we were making jokes about them. They were to us. But we forget this, people actually impacted. So when you say line up seven people from Columbine, there were people whose kids were actually killed in Columbine. So it actually
Starting point is 01:09:19 made... People actually died 9-11. Absolutely. So it makes what M&M and Tia and those guys say even that more insensitive. But they're not... No, real quick, what this is like... I guess what I'm trying to say is I understand what they're trying to do much like humor, which is I'm going to be something naughty.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Yeah. I'm going to be. I'm going to say the outlandish story. Who's the worst guy? Who's the baddest guy? Who's the one that nobody wants to fuck with? Right. Who's the guy that never backs down?
Starting point is 01:09:45 Right. Here's Noriega, this dictator. Taliban over here. Like, I'm going to say I'm these people on purpose. I'm going to be inflammatory on purpose. Yo, Gotti. Yeah. Godi.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yeah. Right. I know who these people are. And I'm going to mimic myself after them because I, want to be the baddest guy out there. But they're also aware that those guys are bad, and that's why they're choosing to be them. And that's the same thing with humor.
Starting point is 01:10:10 We know what we're doing is bad, and we're choosing to do it for that reaction. And then something shifted where everything we said, we meant. And that's what things are fun. I agree. I agree with you 100%. I'm going to tell you where that happened.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Hold on making good. Megan Good said something on my talk show last season, and I thought she was, I was like, really? I couldn't understand it. But she was basically saying she got to watch the roles that she plays. Because people were believing. Because people think that's really her. And I'm like, are people really that's COVID?
Starting point is 01:10:36 Yes. Well, programming. If you play that same role every time. No. Danny Trejole literally plays the same person in every movie. It's a book. He's a book. He's the Mexican dude.
Starting point is 01:10:49 With the beard that goes like this. He's got a fucking leather vestet with this open. You can see the tattoo on his chest from Desperado. The bad guy. Super long hair. I know he plays the same role every time. I believe that he's him. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Three different people ran through my mind just now. I saw Emilio Estevez. What? You've seen the You seen the podium on the breakfast club? He's white? Emilio Estevez?
Starting point is 01:11:13 Oh, he's like half. He's half and half. He's white, though. He's half half half. He's Mexican. White people, Mexicans can be white, real? I don't think he's Mexican.
Starting point is 01:11:21 His last name is, his name is Emilio Estevon. I don't think that's Mexican. I think you're just trying to. He might be from Google with a Nicaragua. Google what Emilio Estebos is, Alex. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Moral of the stories, man, just give people grace, bro. Because, God damn it, don't wait until it's your fucking faith, all right? To stand up for, you know, what's right and give people grace. But also, we got to teach people to be accountable, right? I think if we teach, if we only teach one half of that. Accountable for your jokes, accountable? Accountable for a horror movie? Like, yeah, everybody had to be accountable.
Starting point is 01:11:56 What does that even mean? All right, hey. Like, that's like a woke Twitter term when people say hold them accountable. Yeah. How do you hold somebody, how do you hold somebody accountable for old rap lyrics or a old sketch? Like, hold me accountable for, hey, at this time, all accountability is saying. How about this? Hold you accountable for the sketch just not being funny.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Like, I'm not going to hold them accountable for that sketch for as if they're molesters. I don't think that at all. No, I think he was accountable for, this was grossly inappropriate. And it wasn't funny. And then what? After that, then, then I'm with you. But after that, then what? Once you stand accountable for that?
Starting point is 01:12:31 Not, no, not this area. This area, I don't even know what they're looking for. No one, no one's how to, but nobody is, nobody stands accountable. Yeah. What do you mean? No one says. Tift took accountability? What's accountability?
Starting point is 01:12:43 What would you like them to do? You're saying, hey, you have to stand next to what you did. All we see now or a majority of what we see is people saying, hey, this thing, they're trying to hold you accountable and you say, nah, fuck out of it. I'm rich. Yeah. After they have after people are telling you, hey, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong. You know why?
Starting point is 01:13:06 Much of silence. Much of silence. People will be pulling up shit and I'd be like, I don't even remember saying that shit, bro. Like, I don't. It's like, I don't be, we've moved on. Like, as it was 10 years ago, 15 years ago. So why should you like bring up some shit you did in the past is horrible?
Starting point is 01:13:21 No, if somebody brings it to you, I'm not saying, hey, look, guys, look at this. No, that defeats what you just said. Once somebody brings it to you, you have to stand accountable. And that's what they do. Once you say, I apologize. That was wild. Listen, we... Like Tiffany Haddish, who I have said from the beginning of this podcast,
Starting point is 01:13:36 she did not deserve that. Yes. She did not deserve none of the heat. She's getting none of it. It should all be on Aries. But Tiffany Haddish stood accountable. This thing came out last week. By the end of the week, apology was up.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Not even the week. By the weekend. That's accountability. Not take somebody like the baby. You said what you said on that stage. You then doubled down on it. Then you tripled down on it. Then when your bottom line,
Starting point is 01:14:01 was affected, hey, y'all, I'm going to classes and I'm going to learn to be a better person. That's not accountability. Okay. So accountability is what Tiffany had. Okay. Because here's my thing. I just asked me what to do.
Starting point is 01:14:14 So I'm with you, but here's my thing. If he doesn't feel like he did, if he doesn't feel like he did anything wrong. Listen, by the way, if he doesn't feel like he did anything wrong, that's on him. Yeah. That's on him. You don't like, I don't like performative apologies either.
Starting point is 01:14:29 So it's just like, yo, if you apologize and it's sincere, hey, salute to you. If you feel like you don't want to apologize, that's on you too. Like I don't, you know, but either way, I'm saying, what does that do for the people is what I'm saying? Like people want to be, it's like this court of public opinion wants to be jurors, judges, executioners, but they really can't do anything but yelling make noise. It's like, what do you want? Yeah. Yeah, that's the problem is sometimes the noise does affect your bottom line. and then when it affects your bottom line,
Starting point is 01:15:00 you want to speak up because you care about your bottom line because that's your livelihood. And that's okay. I just think that if we can get back to judging people by the intention, the intention of blackface was to ridicule black people. The intention of their sketch was to ridicule molesters. Okay. So what if you pull a...
Starting point is 01:15:20 But even though it wasn't funny, the intention was still to ridicule the bad people. Right. Right. And I think we can look at things like that and make people laugh in the process. Now, I think the mistake you make it jokes like that, if you're going to do it, just ridicule the person. You don't got to pretend to be the person. Yeah, get the kids out.
Starting point is 01:15:42 That's all I'm saying. Just ridicule a person. You know what I mean? But a lot of times we don't see that. There's a great comedian that we all know in love. It has a fantastic Michael Jackson joke. You probably have laughed at it inappropriately. And it was in the last couple of years.
Starting point is 01:15:55 And what's crazy about that joke? is he's making fun of the victims. Yes. He's making fun of the victims. Let's not get it fucked up. Don't look at the name Michael Jackson and say, oh, he's making fun of Michael, no, he's making fun of the victims. You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 01:16:07 You know what I'm talking about? You said it's goat level. Goat level. But he's making fun of victims, mouse. He's making fun of, he's making fun of alleged victims. I don't say victims. That's what I'm saying. And I think that's what the joke is.
Starting point is 01:16:19 I keep point. That's what I think the joke is. I think the joke is of the alleged. No. Of the victim. I think if this comedian, we're talking about knew that they were actual victims. I don't know if he makes the same joke.
Starting point is 01:16:29 I still laugh no matter what. That's true. But I don't know if he makes the same joke. The fact that the victims are alleged, that's what the, he doesn't, he mentioned that in the joke. But he doesn't make the joke from an alleged perspective.
Starting point is 01:16:39 He makes the joke from the perspective of this happened, and y'all need to suck it up. I think it's a goal level joke. We're all hypocrites. I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm mad. I didn't think of it.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Wow. We're all hypocrites is all I'm saying. I was sitting in that motherfucker fucking crowd like, this bad. Circular firing squad, bro. That's a smart. That's circular fires, that's why I say, be careful who you shoot that
Starting point is 01:16:59 because eventually you won't get shot. And I thought Nicaragua was funny. The difference is does it make you laugh? And that's at the end of the day. If it makes you laugh, if this sketch... It might make you laugh and still be wrong. Yeah. But if it makes you laugh, there's...
Starting point is 01:17:13 Redeeming quality. Yes. If it makes you laugh, there's a redeeming quality. If you just make me feel uncomfortable, now I'm like, why'd you make me feel uncomfortable? He makes a valid point. Yeah. Because then it goes back to what.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Women have been telling us for years. Wrong attention. Right attention. from the wrong guy, get away from me. That same attention or even less from the right guy. Hey,
Starting point is 01:17:32 what up, bitch? Oh, I'm in love. And by the way, women have been telling us this shit about our content for years. Like literally. Oh, that's why I listen.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Huh? I listen. What you mean? I just say things what they want me to say. This guy is so great. I only talk about what they want me to talk about. This guy is crazy.
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Starting point is 01:19:12 Church announcements. What we got? Church announcements. I ain't got shit. Jesus Christ, Christ. Yeah. Miles, what you got? Trap karaoke.
Starting point is 01:19:21 We're in Philadelphia Thursday. We're in Raleigh, North Carolina. Friday and we are in New Orleans, Louisiana on Saturday. Okay. Guys next door each and every Monday, shout out to Mac Wilde and Fly Ride. What up, Mac? What up, Fly, right? You know, the what, hip-hop question, legend list?
Starting point is 01:19:38 Myself and Ile Simone, each and every Monday. That's all I got. That's right. Mine is simple, October 8th. Well, first of all, this week, new episode, a hell of a week. We're back after a two-week hiatus. Hey. We got to take the same break as the Daily Show.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Today was off for two weeks. Trevor's back this week. We're back this week. with a new episode Thursday night, 1130 on Comedy Central. And the Mental Wealth Expo is October 8th here in New York City at the Marriott Marquis Times Square. It's my second annual Mental Wealth Expo. If you was there last year, you know it's a day of mental health and healing education. I bring some of the best, you know, mental health professionals to that space.
Starting point is 01:20:19 This year we have, of course, my good sister, Devy Brown. We have a hip-hop and mental health panel that I'm excited. about Rhapsody is going to be on that one. And we'll name the others very shortly. My man Walo and Shaka St. Cork are coming together to have a conversation about the effects of the prison system
Starting point is 01:20:37 on your mental health. We got Dr. Alfie Breland Noble going to be there. Nadra Tawab Glover, who's the offer of Set Boundaries Find Peace. Dr. Spirit is going to be there. Just to name a few. And our keynote speakers are Pastor Torre Roberts and the great Sarah, Jake's
Starting point is 01:20:53 Roberts. They'll both be there October. And it's a free event. All you got to go to Mental Wealthexpo. Dot com and register to be there, RSVP to be there. And we'll see you on October the 8th. You don't know let me talk about nothing but rap. That is crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:08 You said what? You only hire me to talk about rap. What do you mean? I know about mental health. Talked about a book. I could have been on a panel. I could have been on one of those panels. It's silence in the youth.
Starting point is 01:21:19 You're not really the youth no more, mouse. You got, you're not. You're not. You can. You can't, no, Taylor actually is in Nila. I'm 33. And Naila, Naila's act. Was he not in the room?
Starting point is 01:21:34 I said in the room. You're not really the youth. No, Mouth. How old are you, Mous? Telling me I'm not to use as much. How old are you? 33. Damn.
Starting point is 01:21:48 God, we, bro. Do you use, Mous? You got to get that. 30 years from you. 30 years from you. 40, King? Yeah. You mess that.
Starting point is 01:21:57 No, you 40, bro. You 40, bro. That's some hating ass shit. No, you 40, bro. What? You're 40, bro. Get a real Gap hoodie, bro. Cut that shit out, dude.
Starting point is 01:22:07 You're like the Gap of Dan? No. Yes, it is. They make Dap hoodies name? This Dapper Dan and Gap have a collaboration. You can't wear collab clothes no more. You 40 years old, bro. You're the Brooks brothers.
Starting point is 01:22:21 By the same shit. By the way, Mouss is younger than a lot of these guys, because a lot of these guys be on these podcasts and just because you've had a podcast only for three years. Bro, you're 40 plus. Yeah. All right? Stop talking to me like I'm the old guy.
Starting point is 01:22:32 Oh, they become like big bro? Yeah. Like you're like, you know, you guys got to move out the way and give us a young guy's pace. Bro, you're 42. Yeah. I don't you fuck that's your podcast only three years old. And cut it the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:22:44 The fuck is you talking about. Move on the way. Yeah. You know the fuck. Move out the way and go where. Yeah. We both going to be eating pancakes that I hop at the same time. First of all.
Starting point is 01:22:53 I've never understood. Now, radio, I won't even get to that. I've never understood that thought process when these niggas old, young, like, you got to move out the way. In a podcast, they can listen whenever they want. They don't want to listen to you.
Starting point is 01:23:07 It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor. What are you saying? Taylor jealous. All right, hold on. Go, go. Ask it, ask it, ask it, ask it.
Starting point is 01:23:20 We got to go. We got to go. We got to go. She was in Jamaica posting them third. dress traps, people leaving her comments saying, Shalameh way thick than you. I did see a few of those comments. I did see that.
Starting point is 01:23:31 That was great. Jealous is fuck. I didn't even have a bikini on. I still look thick than you. Was that a waste of a bikini? Stephen Silver 95 said, would you rather have an athlete or engineer as a son-in-law? Depends how good they are at both.
Starting point is 01:23:45 That's right. What kind of athlete we're talking about? Yeah, I mean. He talked about like, is he going to be Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Tom Brady? Of course. I would want that to be my husband. And if they're engineer, is it going to be Elon Musk?
Starting point is 01:23:55 Yeah. I take that shit, too. It really depends. Yeah, that's a broad question. But a mediocre athlete or a mediocre engineer, I'm going to take mediocre engineer. 100%. Me too. I can explain my mediocre engineer way easier at the dinner table.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Yeah. You don't even have to say he's been like, hey, what's your son up to? He's playing basketball and turkey. That's what I'm saying. The thing about being a mediocre athlete, we know. Yeah, yeah. There's no such thing as a mediocre engineer. You're just the engineer.
Starting point is 01:24:20 That's the goddamn dinner table. Yeah. Yeah. I just want them to be. black. That's all I want. For me. Do you agree? You want your kid to be black? I want my son-in-law to be black. Your son-in-law. Oh, is that the question? Yes, it's son-in-law. Oh, son-in-law. Oh, what does that mean? No, son-in-law. That means we have,
Starting point is 01:24:35 because me and Charlottom have daughters, so we're thinking. Oh, the person that your kid married. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Same thing. Same thing. Same thing. I still want to engineer. Yeah, I just want them to do. I have no racial requirements for my son-law. I do. I do. I do. You got to be, whatever you bring this house. And I'm not debating with nobody about that. the Dr. Umah. Right? Take it up with Dr. Umar.
Starting point is 01:24:59 This is a... I just want my son a law to be Nicaraguan, dude. I really think it's... Yeah. We're naughty. See how fun it is to be naughty? You know, it's going to be funny.
Starting point is 01:25:15 In four years, Nicolaugran's going to be one of the words that white people can't say. What? Hey, where you going? Nicaraguan. I know over there. I'll spend the weekend in N-word.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Whoa. That's even worse. That's worse. And land? I spent a lot of money in N-word. Just Deonté Lamar said, if the Bible said it was okay to cheat, would you have sex with other women? The Bible. Your wife is the Bible.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Exactly. I don't go to fuck about the Bible. I don't cheat because the Bible tells me not to. Cheek because my wife tells me not to. The hell? Yeah. I don't think the Bible says don't cheat. I think the Bible definitely says that.
Starting point is 01:25:55 It does. Don't commit adultery. Well, adultery is different. Adultery is when you're married and you have sex with another person that is adult. Yeah, but if you marry that person you have sex with, then it's not adultery. Adultery is when you turn. But what about the person, if you have sex with the person while you're married to another person that is adultery. But if you marry that other person, now that's not.
Starting point is 01:26:14 But you already committed the adultery. Why that man called Wesley Snipes an adulterer before you shot him? Oh, because he was an old man. He's just saying things. And New Jackson Adultero! Your soul belongs in your heart. Your soul is required in hell.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Nino ain't cheating that movie. He wasn't even married. What? All right. Okay, this is the last one. Who's this from, Taylor? Whoever said this, life is all about learning and improving, right?
Starting point is 01:26:43 Oftentimes, people could be uncomfortable next to people who've done questionable stuff. But the Bible says we are supposed to learn and forgive. But you think God would forgive the devil if the devil were to repent somehow. Interesting. I think God is already forgiven him. He's already forgiven them. Because forgiveness isn't for the person.
Starting point is 01:27:02 And forgiveness is for you. You relieve yourself of the debt. You relieve yourself of the burden of walking around angry and allowing someone to take up space. So I think God has already forgiven the devil. It hasn't worked for me yet. Me neither. It sounds good. I've forgiven them in front of my therapists.
Starting point is 01:27:17 I've forgiven in front of my spiritual leaders. Nothing works. I know how to forgive. I just refuse to forgive. How do you forget? I don't know. I've tried it a million times. It don't work.
Starting point is 01:27:27 I'm like, forgiveness is as simple as saying no more. It's really a mind fuck. When they say forgive, what do they say, forgive and forget? But you can't. You can't.
Starting point is 01:27:37 It's impossible. That's what triggers are. That's another thing. And I don't even know what podcast you would discuss that on. Like people at some point were just saying words that just sounded good. Oh,
Starting point is 01:27:46 forgive and forget. The last person in the room is the weakest. I don't know everyone to be the smartest person in the room. Shut the fuck. I just wrote about that. Shut the fuck up. I'm working on my new book. I literally just wrote about that.
Starting point is 01:27:54 So when you talk about, so I do think you can forgive, but I think the only way to properly forgive is to never forget. So you don't end up in this situation again. Yeah. If I punch you on your face for no reason, you forgive me and you forget it.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Well, you're going to drop your guard next time on the around. I only forgive you if I can't beat you. You haven't know what I'm saying? You don't got a choice. Nobody punch you in the face. You're only going to forgive them if you can't beat them. Yeah. If you let them punch you in the face,
Starting point is 01:28:22 then clearly you didn't think you could beat them. You have no choice but to forgive it. Not that you could scrap, and then you could be forgiven for punching me in my face. Yeah, if we fight. But I'm never going to forget that when I was sitting here under my bench, you snuffing me. So every time you're in this left, I'm watching you.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Like, now I forgive you. I'm not holding against you. But I'd be a damn fool to look this way every time you right here. I don't know if I forgive as much as I just simply don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck way more than I. Like, I just be like, like you're done to me. Like, whatever. Bye.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Tianaara. Vamados. Only people I don't look at as like a problem. Like y'all know like there's a lot of people over the couple years that I've like been like, yeah, I already did the most egregious thing to you. Right? Like, like, oh boy, that start that shit, I told him, I said the next time I see you, I'm going to spit on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:11 And the next time I seen him, I spat on him. You know what he did? Nothing. Right. I have to forgive you now. Ah. I left it alone because I can't keep him. I can't keep chasing.
Starting point is 01:29:22 I mean, you did what you said you was going to do. I can't keep chasing an issue with somebody who don't want an issue. Now, did you spit on him for real or was it a Harry-Style-style? No, like I, we was walking. Was it a Harry-Sty-Tiles, Chris Pine and may or may not have been spit? No, no, it was a luggy, loogie. It was a loogie. Like, we were, was yellow.
Starting point is 01:29:38 It was, no, come on, I take care of my body. Take care of my body. That was nasal. That's a soap. Huh. And depending where it lands, it is sexual assault. It didn't land on the road. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:29:50 This guy. Mousy. Wow. This guy. This guy. I might be at a bee. Jesus Christ. Oh, you just spit on his crotch, bro.
Starting point is 01:29:59 That's his shit. You know how that reads in a paper? You know how Mouse Jones is arrested for sexual assault because he spit on a man's crotch. Whoa. What the fuck, Mous? Jesus. That's why I'm holding your ear so big, bro.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Listen. As always, you listen to his podcast. If you listen to this podcast, tell them, that's it, everything, Miles, right? Tell me what to find you.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Oh, not going to. And definitely not in the ink blotter behind what Charleney said. If you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant.
Starting point is 01:30:36 But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.

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