The Brilliant Idiots - One Day Too Late

Episode Date: July 2, 2021

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It's so stupid. It's positively brilliant. The Brand Idiot Podcast. Yep, Charleston, the God. Andrews. We are the Brilliant Idiot's podcast. Wax is here. Another week of brilliant idiotness.

How you feeling, Hezzy? Oh, God. One thing about Hezzy, boy. I can't. No, man. What happened? No, man. Why can't we?

Don't, man. You're not going to go through everybody who's here in the room? We are. Alex is here. Angelo is over there on the camera. everybody's playing their position. Right. You know what I mean?

The people who are supposed to be talking and talking. You know what I mean? The people who are producing or producing. Angela's over there shooting pictures. We're doing what we're supposed to do. That's it. It's all about roles, baby. It's all about roles and understanding the roles, yeah.

Did you see what, you see with Ebony K. Rolls as in what kind of role? Rose, uh, roles, positions. Oh, okay. Did you see what Ebony K. Williams said? Well, first of all, how was you week? Mm. My week was.

was good. My week was good. Okay. Yeah, I don't have anything exceptional to talk about, to be honest, for my week. Oh, um, I'm getting married, bro. I send an email to you guys. When? Yeah, we're going to have a wedding, bro. You know, bro. You know, they sent me nothing. I did not get that. I did. I didn't get that. I didn't get no goddamn, man. I don't send the black email list yet. My dad. That one goes up a little later. You're not doing it this year, are you? Nah. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Talk to me. Brother, why? Like, why?

Pregnant? Yo, why is everybody saying? Yes, man. When you say you're getting married? And me, who's already married, they go, why? Why would you do it? No, no, no. I'm happy with the marriage, but it seems like, I mean, I know you proposed.

When you proposed? Last year? Last year, yeah, yeah. Oh, so that makes sense. After me, though, right? No, I think I was engaged before you. Right before me? Yeah.

So it must be baby fever, man. Maybe. When would you get when you were. Congratulations, man. I think I did during the pandemic. Before Netflix, for sure. Before the Netflix special? Yeah.

I'm all for that. the next 365 days. Unless there's a global pandemic. Like, we probably would have been married even before that. Let's do. True. Whatever. It's cool.

If you propose and you don't get married within a year span, I'm not really sure you want to get married. Yeah. Whoa. After that. Whoa. What did you propose? December. You got until December, bro.

No, mine is 420. Why? Wow. Seriously? Oh, so next year at 420? Yeah, 420. It's not wrong day. I'm a year and a half ain't bad.

Yeah. Anything after a year and a half of a year and a half of a second. Like, you doubt me. Eh? Yeah. Honestly, it's so hard for me to do the podcast without acknowledging my wrong. Man, no, man. No, you got to stop.

No, we have to stop doing that because I'm going to tell you why. Because people just feed off energy and they, no, man. What happened? That's a good conversation, though, because there's this woman in North Carolina. I think her name was Kelly Moore. She's a nurse. Right. Right?

So she's a nurse at this nurse facility. And she got suspended by, um, the nursing facility because she kept doing these TikTok videos on the job. But her content had to do with the patients. So she'd be saying things like, oh, I'm going to unplug this person's ventilator and charge my phone. She was acting like she was- That's funny joke.

But she was like, she was pouring more pills into the person's cup. And she was like, oh, I'm going to make this person sleep longer. So it was a joke. So naturally, if you got somebody in that nursing facility and you're watching this woman do this on TikTok, you're going to complain. Especially as my parents. somebody. That's wild.

Like became popping during the pandemic. You think? Oh, duh. But is that why so many people die? What do you mean? Like, do so many people die because they're busy doing TikToks the whole fucking time when you could be saving people's lives, helping them breathe and shit? But that's my point, right?

It's like I don't, you know, that, that, that young woman was not focused on what her actual job was. You know what I mean? Ah, so you're saying, like, sometimes you got to have more focus on what your job is. That's it. That's all. That's all. That's all.

That's all. And that's like she, the young lady in North Carolina, she blamed her situation on TikTok. She was like, I got fired because, no, she said I got fired because of trolls on TikTok. No, you didn't. You got fired because of you. Yes. But she got suspended. She got suspended.

You got suspended because of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she blamed it on cancel culture. It was like, it's just these Karen's mad at me. No, it's people who probably have folks in that facility. Yes. They say you fucking around with the defibrillator or whatever. Come on.

And they're going to be upset. Yeah. Especially they died. And her excuse was, I don't. I'm just playing. This is comedy sketches. Do that in your off time. Or do it at a comedy show.

Do it at a comedy show. Go to an open mic. Do it when you're in the house. You know what I mean? Yeah. Not when you're actually supposed to be there nursing. Yeah. I think this whole generation,

I'm not even exaggerating. Money is not the root of all evil. Attention is. Yeah. Mm-hmm. These youngans want to, not even just these young and adults to this generation. That's why I say this generation.

Some of them get, attention and they start craving attention so much that it fucks up their money. Like, you know, even this woman in North Carolina, she's an actual nurse. Yeah. Right? But the attention of TikTok overwhelmed her so much that it caused her to end up getting suspended from her actual job. That's paying her fucking money.

Now she got to go fund me asking for money to take care of her kids. That's literally what it says. It's like, I got TikTok, I got, I got, what is it? I got fired because of TikTok, I need money to feed my kids. He should have thought about that. before you crave the attention over the money. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

It's a drug, man. It is a drug attention. It's a drug. So my whole thing is don't let any attention fuck your money up. You know what I mean? There is it, yeah. And I guess maybe there's an entitlement.

I have seen a generational shift. No, it's crazy as well. And we speak about, you have a lot of like boomer motherfuckers talk about that. Those generations are so entitled. No, it's crazy. When it comes to jobs and stuff,

it is true. Like younger generation, they do feel as if they deserve everything. Which is good work. because you'll go after the things you deserve. But I don't know, at least our generation or, I don't know, at least we felt like we had to go get it or we didn't deserve it. There was maybe more of a gratitude that came along with it. I don't care what you do after you're great at what it is you're here for.

Be great at what it is you're here for. That's it. If you're great at what it is you're here for, it'll be all types of things and perks that come with that. You know what I mean? But the attention. You know, can kind of like sway everybody's opinion. Everybody wants to be in front of the camera.

It's very rare you find someone who doesn't, it isn't like intoxicated about being in front of the camera. It's very rare you find the people that are behind the camera. And the people who are like, I like being behind the camera, like those people who genuinely like that, oftentimes they thrive because there's not a lot of people fighting for those positions. Yo, show shit that shit on the head. I've been saying that for the past couple of weeks.

You know, there's people around us in our circle that they like to play their position behind the scenes because that's what they want to do. They want to be executives. Pages like that. You know what I mean? Our girl Sim is like that. You know what I mean? And I'm watching their evolution goes a lot faster because they know what they're here for. And they have a better relationship with talent because there's not resentment.

Like I remember when I'll go out for like acting gigs and shit like that, you go into these rooms with these like casting directors. and they're just failed actors. And like, everybody that you're dealing with in the business, they are. Everybody you're dealing with in the business is just a failed actor, right? And they resent the fact that you might want what they couldn't have, right? And all these people that you're dealing with, like producers a lot of times, they're, like, failed actors, failed comics. There's all these people who's like failures at the thing that you're trying to be great at. So it's hard for them to rue for you because they wish they were you.

But when you meet a motherfucker who does not want that, they want to be great at their thing. That's the best relationship you end up. I can tell anybody in this generation something, man, that is the road less traveled nowadays. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And the road less travel usually gets you to your destination.

Yep. That other lane is crowded as a motherhood. Yeah. Yeah. You got, I mean, even when you go on YouTube, you say? Create your own lane. Create your own lane. Even when you go on YouTube, you got doctors doing YouTube videos and lawyers doing YouTube videos.

And, you know, it's like, it's cool to get certain information out there. but are you a YouTube or a fucking doctor? Well, they want that flex, man. They want them comments. They want the people saying how great they are. That's right. They want the bitches slide into DMs and shit. It's all about pussy at the end of the day.

That's right. It's all about pussy, man. For real, man. For real. Attention you get it from pussy, man. It's tricky, man. But I have noticed that. And it is, what's interesting is like there are people that will be behind a camera.

I don't think a lot of people realize, like, if you want to make money in this game, if you're willing to be like behind the camera, it could be executive. It could be manager. Camera guy. Camera. producer, radio program director, comedy show promoter. They actually make the show.

They actually do everything. You could make million. So much more money. You know, the producers of music make way more than the musicians. Right? Like all these musicians that you love,

fucking duolipas and all these people, you know who's making all the money? People produce those fucking songs every time I guess played in a fucking Colgate commercial when they get a check off of that. Same thing with the producers and writers and TV. Like there's a lot of There's a lot of money in this game

You know, but you got to decide what you want Do you want money? Do you want success or do you just want attention You want to pass your fucking back That attention Like you said, that attention could be intoxicating You know, it could be that one person That recognizes you somewhere

Right. At one time you go somewhere and get something for free Or somebody gives you a little extra You know what I mean? That's a new crack Or just even seeing your name All on social media That's why some of these people

don't care whether it's negative or positive This is as long as they're being talked about That shit, listen And by the way, everybody's going to have an opinion. Let's not get it fucked up. I say it all the time. There's the rule of 10. Three people are going to like it.

Three people are not going to like it. More people are going to be on the fence about it. You know what I mean? But that is when you're really being authentic and you're living in your truth, right? So if you put an opinion out there, you got to know everybody not going to agree with it. Yeah.

Right. But if all like, I used to say, I was telling him why. No, this dude. And Angelo, you're not getting on cameras. I don't even think about it. God, be careful. He was looking to shit in this. Out of control.

We want to fuck you up for that shit. I'm careful to Angelo, bro. He's starting to throw his home birthday parties. He's going to Instagram. He throwing birthday parties. Okay. Anzlo's birthday bash. This is how it starts.

Listen, but we really wanted to fuck him up for that shit because if I see that inside this, I might want to fuck you up because my grandma might grab that fucking lime. And I got to fuck you out. Angelo was one of those guys that was licking shit and putting it on the internet. Looking shit in the grocery store and putting it back.

And you guys hired him. When I started, I was about to fire him. Yeah. I'm like, you know what? He understood right away. He got it. He got it. He got it.

As far as we know, least ain't putting it on camera in the morning. You're in private. Now we don't know who's licking the fucking ice cream or the lungs. Are you on? Even with wax. They wasn't about to make wax shit, man. Oh, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? They wanted to make wax shit, man. I was going to fuck everybody. Listen, I told you what happened. That is your most famous. You know, many people hit me up randomly. I'm still getting the shit right now. I'm dead.

Why I got to get it. But, you drop this guy up. This one at my DM. always, yo, yo, every time it goes viral on TikTok, yo, you actually shake this guy's hand when you meet him. It's still going with. Yeah, that's a homie who'll be catching this shit. Yeah, bro, I told you I was inside the fucking airport

and the motherfucker was like, they call me doodoo boy. I say, yo, I did you go to the bathroom. Yeah, I said, I did you go on the bathroom right now. You can't say that somebody calls you doodoo boy. Yeah, I'm going to fuck you up. If somebody calls you do dodo boy, you can't say. The last place, he's going to the bathroom. The bathroom?

He knows the children. You better not going to the bathroom. I'm going to catch your shit for you. It's like you can't say that. Not because I couldn't beat him up right there because he kept playing around. I'm like, I'm still walking. But how are you going to beat him up in something you say? I know, but that's come on.

No, but that's my point. You said that shit. You put that out there. I didn't actually say I grabbed the doodle with my hands. Yes, you did. You said. Always tissue there. No, it doesn't matter.

That's not the weird part. It's got trying to be fucking crazy. He's trying me crazy sometimes. I ain't trying to explain normal shit. Nobody does that. I've seen monkeys do that. What? They grabbed it.

You said it. They'll be like six minutes, 30 seconds into the podcast. Andrew Carl's waxed a monkey. That shit's going to be all over. That shit going to be all over. Now, you said, y'all let your shit touch the water? That's what you said. You catch it before it touch the water.

With tissue every time. As if the shit going in the water is abnormal. That's where the shit's supposed to go, wax. Lay it down. Lay it down. It's like knocking some of the water. out, it's like splash. You might hit their head and my blood it might come out.

So you take your shit, catch it, and then you lay it gracefully in the water? You don't like water touching your ass? It's disgusting. And the shit water. Do you shower? The other shit went in there. It's your shit. So you, if a girl gave you, give you head, you kiss her right after?

Listen, you don't watch your ass in your mouth. Huh? You don't watch your ass in you shower? You're supposed to go? I heard people do that. You don't let the water touch your ass in the shower? No, it's not that. I'm just saying.

I thought people like take a shit and they go take a shower because they got splashy asses. Every time they shit you this splash. How are you shitting, dude? Like, what's coming out of you? You know how much I eat at least pounds a day of fool? Flashy asses sound fire. Hey, I want Lil Nas X to get a band called the splashy asses. That's a fire.

That's a fire name. You know what's fine is... Little Nizek than the splashy asses? This is what's fine is how much all of a sudden people in hip-hop care about their kids now that Nilaaz-X is kissing people. Man. Right? Because that's the first thing everybody...

Just say you don't like gay. shit. Stop going. Oh, my children. My children are seeing this. Oh, my kids. Just say you're homophobic, fan. Because all this shit on YouTube right now, all the kids is mimicking. So, if they see their friend right there's a boy, he's seeing that, he might go and go over and try to kill him. Wax. You grew up off Beanie Siegel. No doubt. He fucked me up. But I've never heard you complain about Beanie Siegel. No, I said Beanie fucked me up. But I've never heard you complain about it. What did Beanie do? Beanie just made him want to do criminal shit. That Beanie was talking about.

Just like, what the beating some gay shit? I'm like, that's what, man. What's his line, bro? But that's what I'm trying to say exactly my point. I was doing the shit that Beanie was talking about, the shit that Beanie was talking about. And I was like, I relate to that. A kid might see that one of the things.

He might see his friend right there and be like, come in and kiss the boy. You know the difference? You know the difference? I don't know I was actually doing nothing criminal. The shit that rappers were, a lot of rappers were encouraging us to do was actually criminal. I understand that.

But if a father don't want his kid to do that, to do that, the kissing of the boy. There's a million things I don't want my, I'm, listen, this is 43-year-old Sholomey talking. Happy birthday. Thank you, brother. 20-something-year-old Sholomey would have thought a different way. Hell, early 30-something Sholomey would have thought a different way.

But there's a million things in hip-hop I don't want my kids to see. It's a million things in American culture. I don't want my kids to see. What's wrong with two guys kissing one. You know, so Kerman M&M said that in a song one time. Remember Eminem said, it don't mean you hate them. It's just your, God did not want you to be into that. God wanted them to be into that.

You know how many time I put pork on my plate and people looked at my plate was like, ew, gross. Why are you eating that? I'm like, I don't know. I eat pork. And then you're just like, I eat pork and they're like, ew, I don't eat pork.

They make me feel so much more worse than if I see two gay guys. Everybody let two gay guys walk around and have no problems. When I got pork on my plate, they make me feel like shit. Well, then maybe. And I don't even want to bring the pork around.

You said, what makes you feel what? People judging him for eating swine. That's not true. Come on. Gay people. They get accepted all. They get accepted all. all the time, but no problem.

They walk down the street. Ask Allah. It's the same sin. What are you talking about? I got pork on my plate. I get on an award show right now and eat a bacon sandwich. Allah's pissed. Nobody's going to make a YouTube video.

Yo, they're going to go crazy. Yeah, they will. If you go to the Middle East, they're going to be tight. We're not in the Middle East. I'm talking about here in America. But you know how many people looking at you like, bro, you eat pork? You know what I'm saying? How could you put that in your mouth?

Yo, they do that to me? You got to listen. You think pork eaters get it worse than you. gay people? Worse. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. You're telling me right now.

There's so many other options. You eat pork? No, because it's not healthy. You'll see pork on your plate right now. Can I make a point? What the fuck? You'll make a bigger deal about that pork on your plate. I'm gonna be out of you.

I don't care if a guy got pork or dick on his plate. I'm not eating either. I don't understand why y'all can so. I mean, I don't understand why y'all. I'm not saying we care. I just said that they get more slack. I have to say something.

I have to say something. No. You'll be more mad about that pork on your plate than seeing two gay guys. never seen somebody get beat up for eating pork. I'm just saying. You never been to Middle East. We're in America. I'm not talking about to Middle East.

Well, it depends what you believe in. If you're, if you're Muslim and you don't need poor, I just not ask him a question. Listen, I've never seen any legislation created to oppress people that eat pork. Let me make a point. In the Middle East, right, or in parts of the world where Islam is the religion, right? It is a sin to eat pork. But it's a sin to be everything over it. But, but that's not true.

They'll kill you for being gay. But here's a thing. Okay. If I'm God, I'm God. I would be a little bit more lenient if you're gay than I would if you ate pork because you could not eat pork and still feed yourself.

But if you're gay, there's only one thing you like. Yeah. It's dick. I don't eat pork for personal, you know, dietary reasons. And then you don't eat dick because you're not into dicks. But that's fine. I don't care if somebody does either.

If you see somebody eating pork, are you going, ugh? I don't pay for it. No, one thing I don't do, if I'm paying for the food, I'd be like, no, pork. You see me. You've seen me do that a million times.

But we see two gay guys, if I got friends that's gay, they come over and eat. I'm not paying for nobody sex. I'm being honest with you. I'm not paying for anybody sex. Not my guy friends, not my girlfriend. Like, I'm not paying for nobody sex. No, maybe sex, no, but it's... I think that...

I think you're hamophobic, bro. I'm definitely hamphobic. I am definitely hamphobic. I think you're hamophobic, bro. I'm folkophobic, yes. Workerphobic. I'm polophobic, y'all. I don't even like my kids watching Pepper Pig.

That's how goddamn hamophobic I am. That's what don't need to be on TV. Mother fucking Pepper Pig. I'm tired of him Pepper Pig and her family and her friends on my goddamn television. It's ruining the kids. It's going to make all the kids want to eat goddamn ham. Do you understand what I'm saying?

You know what's funny, though? It's like, I'll talk to some of my gay friends, and they'll be like, well... I know what I'm saying. Listen, I want to... Listen, they want to reinforce the homophobia so bad. He's like, you see what I'm saying? That's what I'm talking about.

I'm fucking playing. I don't give a shit. I'm a pepper fucking. this guy, yo, we got to stop this, yo. Why do we care so much about who people are sleeping with? I don't care. I don't care. But I have, like, I have gay friends, and then they'll say things like this,

the bag, I don't know how you fuck pussy. Like, that shit is gross. Like, that's how they talk to me? Gross. Like, they make, ew, like, it's just nasty. Da, da, da, da, da, how do you do that? And they don't hate women at all, but they're just not biologically. They say, look nasty.

They say, how old? Yeah, how does it smell? You know what I say to them? What? don't judge me because I'm not judging you. I guess what I'm saying is it makes, it's not hateful at all. Like I,

those, my gay friends love women. Like I, some of them know through my wife to be, my fiance, but their biological disposition is not to like women and find them sexually attractive. They find them beautiful.

They find them stunning. But that doesn't mean they want to have sex with them. Just like we can find a guy, you might not feel comfortable with men and this, but I can say a guy's handsome, but I don't want to have sex with them. You know what I mean? So there's nothing wrong with seeing two guys

make out and be like, oh, I'm not sexually into that. That doesn't make you a hate like a homophobic person. You're just not sexually into that. Just like a gay guy seeing a guy and a girl make out and being like, I'm not into that. But back to your original point, I don't understand the moral high ground that some people stand on, especially when it comes to American culture, hip hop culture, whatever. You know what I mean?

Because you're not making videos talking about the violence against women. You're not making videos talking about, you know, the celebration of the drug culture, the glorification of the gang culture. Now, listen, I salute brothers that are in the NOI because they're so consistent, right? They will challenge you when you're talking about, you know, murdering your own fellow brother.

They'll challenge you when you're talking about disrespecting women. And they'll challenge you when it comes to homosexuality. You know what I mean? Of course, even more. But that's the, but they're always standing on a consistent peace, morality, moral high ground. That's what they believe over there. But it's like other people, man, it's like,

you're complaining about Little Nas X, but it's just like, yo, when's the last time you complained about, you know, these brothers that are out here rapping about killing each other? So I would love one of their kids to be like, since when you care about me this much? Care about what? Like one of the guys is complaining about the Little Nas X video. My kids got to watch this.

I love one of their kids that come out and be like, says, when do you care about me? Yeah. This first time I'm hearing from you in five years. Yeah, it's just weird. I could I be sitting back like, I don't care. You know what I'm saying? Just wake out.

Who gives a fuck? Fuck each other. God bless. Even when we talk about influences, I saw somebody post this on social media earlier. They was like, y'all grew up on the Cosby Show, a different world, fresh prince. And some of y'all didn't go to college. Family man. You know what I mean?

You didn't become a doctor. You didn't become a lawyer. You know what I mean? You didn't become an attorney. Like, you know, Philip Banks, God bless the day, was an attorney. You know what I mean? Claire, Huxterball was a judge. attorney.

Dr. Heathcliff, Cliff Huckable was a doctor. Different world was about a bunch of kids going to college. That didn't influence a lot of people to go do that type of stuff. So why do you think

that what Little Naz-X is doing is going to influence people that much? Well, maybe it did. You got influence off something, though. Maybe it not been those actual things,

but you got influence over something. Like I said, Beini Cs was me. You see what I'm saying? What did you influence you to do? Be out here while and doing the dumb shit

that I was out there doing. Once again, little Nazexexis is not committing a crime. All right, that's cool. If nothing he's doing, that's criminal. I could have went other ways, though. I'm just saying what you said.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, like, people don't feel comfortable. This is the thing. People are fraudulent, right? Talk to me. They know how they feel, but they're not willing to be honest with their feelings because they're worried about the reaction to their feelings. So what they do is they

create a justification for those feelings that they think is okay. For example, that person thinks it wrong to be gay. So they see somebody out there being gay publicly. That doesn't sit well with them. So then they say, oh, my kids. I care about my kids and you can do something to my kids,

which is bullshit. You just don't like it, but you're not honest enough with yourself to admit it because you're worried about the backlash. Because notice every single one that says some shit, immediately afterwards, it's like, I got another wrong with the gay community. I got another, da, da, da, cap, cap, cap, cap.

By the way, it's not just hip-hop, do. I mean, that's the whole right, right? The whole right. The whole right. Yeah, yeah. Conservatives. Yeah, absolutely. Every cartoon that comes out of it.

Absolutely. And we call them out this exact same way. So I don't want people to think that, I hate when they bash hip hop and act like hip hop is like, oh, wait, hip hop's full of homophobic. Are black men are so homophobic? No. Them conservatives on the right? No, come on. I can argue that the white politicians on the right are more homophobic.

You know why? Because they actually create the legislation that can oppress people. How is hip hop not Ronald Reagan? Like, what do you mean? We're going to sell drugs. Nah, that's not all hip hop, though. By the way, that's not all hip-hop. It's not all hip-hop.

I'm making a joke here. But, like, you understand what I'm saying. It's like, you can't go off. Hip-hop is, hip-hop is just as American as rock and roll. Yeah, I'm not trying to make this a racial thing. I'm just trying to create it. I didn't say racial. You just told him yourself.

No, I didn't say nothing about Ray. What are we all talk about? Jack Harlow? No, I said hip-hop is an American thing, just like rock and roll. Of course, hip-hip-hop's an American thing. But right now when we're talking about the joke. Let's get out of this one. It's not even get out of that.

I'm picking Ronald Reagan. on purpose. And when we say right wing, when you're going right wing, you're not talking about black right wingers. You're talking about white right. No, that's not true. Who are you talking about? I did say white politicians because those are the ones making the laws, but no, you have, when you say right wing, what do we think, what are we thinking of? Candice Owens will speak out against little Nazex. The Larry Elders of the world will speak out against little nausics. Like that's, it's really like conservative values because they're so into religion that they think that homosexuality is like a, a sin. But if we're talking about,

homophobia at large, it's an American issue. Like some people that are very religious, some people that are conservative, just don't agree with homosexuality. So when they see Little Knives X on their TV kissing, you know what I mean? It makes all of them react. I thought we were doing it's like trying to protect the argument. So in other words, like, it's very easy to fall into these traps where you just blame a single community for a type of behavior.

And if we're talking about hip-hop, regardless of we think of it as just American music or not, the general public is going to go, this is a black art form. We're speaking about black males. Absolutely. You even referenced it. You even said black males are homophobic. Black males.

So I gave a right wing perspective, which is Ronald Reagan, right? Gotcha. And the joke is that, it's not a joke. It's a fucked up thing. Is that, you know, they sold fucking Ronald Reagan.

I think when cahoots with the fucking CIA is like dropping cocaine and in the black community. So who else is selling crack in the black community? These gangster rappers that brag about all this weight that they push and blah. block. So it's the white man's fault. Well, yeah. You put the drugs there. You didn't have to sell it.

I mean, but, but, but, but that's a whole other argument. Yeah, you didn't have to sell it. But that's a whole other debate because it's just like, if you're pouring disenfranchised. That's a good point. But no, if you put it there. But if you just leave it. But no. If, if you're pouring disenfranchised and there's no other opportunities. Of course, you're going to do drugs. Absolutely. You're going to do it. You can sell it, whatever. But my point is, I just don't know why people care about Little Nazek so much.

God bless that brother, man. Like, why? Why? Why is that, why did that make people so irate this week? Did it make them irate? Because it went viral. It's not even, they're not even irate. He went out. That's the thing. It's like, I don't even think people are that angry at it.

They just saw it. They reacted to it. And because it's a hot button topic, the news outlets pick it up, right? There could have been a shooting at the BET Award this week. And I don't think, you might have saw some videos of people like, yo, we got to stop the violence or something like that. But it wouldn't have caused the type of vitriol, like, yo, y'all got, y'all can't be doing this.

You know what I'm saying? Y'all shooting at the BET award. You're sending my kids the wrong message yada yada yada y'all. Like, come on, man. Come on. Yeah. Like, let's not stand. We're all standing on shaky moral high ground.

What would you like the reaction to be? Like, what do you think the ideal reaction to it is? To be honest with you, I don't know. Because I saw it and I didn't think. I'm just like, boy, that's a wild boy there. Here's a better question. That's all I said about that people are a wild boy. Here's a better question.

When Madonna and Britney Spears, I think. I remember that. Made out. It was Brittany and another girl was up there too. I think it was Christina Aguilera. But I think it was Britney and Madonna kiss. No, she kissed both of them. Oh, she kissed both of them.

Yeah, whoever it was, she kissed both of them. I can't remember who the other person was, but she kissed both of them. Okay, so when that happened, I think there was like Christian pushback to that, too. Ask me what I thought about that situation. I'll ask your hand. Ask me. What is it? I said, Madonna's a wild girl.

That's a wild girl right there. For real. No, no. It's just like certain people push the envelope. There's a, there's a meme of this. I can't take credit for it, but it's something like this. Like, you know, when I saw that Madonna thing, the kids in Britney Spears, like, on one hand, I'm looking at this, there could be children watching this. And this could, you know, influence them to do certain things that I don't think are morally, you know, responsible. And on the other hand, there was lotion. That right there, that right there shows the balance of life.

Yeah. That's exactly how people feel. You know what I mean? It's on one hand, you're like, well, the Bible said, but that's because we- And the Bible is like, you're not supposed to have it. My whole point with all of this is you cannot stand on shaky moral high ground and be pointing the finger at it. My whole point is how lit.

It's not bothering nobody. How lit is the Bible that we're still going off of it today? Man. That's super weird. Nah, that Bible ain't no joke, bro. Nah, but they've really got power in the door. Some songs are trash after 10 years, 20 years. Not that Bible.

That's been around for thousands of it. Hitting bars over and over. And it's such an ill document because people ignore it when it comes to their own shit. And then when it comes to other people's shit? No, look right here, bro. Look right here. He says you shouldn't be doing this.

You shouldn't. You should. You should. But you have violated. He said thou. That's right, that's right. That's right. It didn't say V.

It said thou. Thou shalt not. It's like, come on, man. I want to not. Listen, I like envelope pushes. I don't even think a little nod. is pushing the envelope. I just think Lil Nas is being

Lil Nas. Because that's what he's into. He's a gay man. And I salute him for living his truth. He knows the reaction he's going to get and that's why he does it. But at the same time,

he's living his truth. So he's like, if I live my truth and it has this reaction, that's a win-win. Most people can't wait. Most people can't wait to stir some shit up,

create some controversy. He just got to be himself to create controversy. Do you think it's him or the people around who are doing that? No, I think it's him. I think it's all him.

Yes, man. Like, we didn't even scratch the surface the Little Nas X with Old Town Road. He did that record. It was a cool record. He got it off. But man, if you really, if you're being honest, little Nas X elevated when he set himself free.

He would have still been, you know, in the closet, trying to make records just to stay on. It wouldn't have been organic. It wouldn't have been authentic. Now that he's being his true authentic self, he get another number one record. He's making the videos he wanted to make. That's what happened when you come out being gay.

That's what happened. But I bet you you come up telling anybody you eat pork, it's going to go less. Man, if you get gay, you go up. You eat pork, you go now. I hide my plate every time I put another plate on top and I know I got pork on my plate. I really wish we had somebody from the LGBT community here right now to tell him how how crazy he sounds. It's like, God damn, are you trying to say that?

I'm not even having this comment. No, I'm not even entertaining. You understand what I'm saying? No, they didn't talk about it. These people eat pork and discriminate against, bro. Man, stop. They can't get to heaven. Yo, God, why'd you make that animal so delicious if we can't eat it?

Put it on a grill. Put barbecue sauce. Deuteronomy 148 says you should not touch the flesh of a dead pig, nonetheless. So how do you know that? You don't know nothing about the gay thing. You're going to hell. Waxed by your own logic. Okay?

You are going to have. God will forgive me for eating that pork. No, he's not. And I'm asking forgiveness again. No, he's not. So God going to forgive for body of your life. No doubt. He forgives seven times seven.

Listen, my, my, my pop still. You just went, so God, you can be getting it. You start speaking to tongues, bro. Yo, God took over in that moment. As long as you got to forgive me. You got another waxing that. I'm telling you. Listen, long.

I'm telling you. Speaking of tongue. He's making it tongue. Take the sin out this man. Take this man. Take this man out of this man. Make it out of this man. Let it out of, man.

Son, he was going to be passing so bad. That's why you got ballspot. He's why he's going to get the sit out of him. How about him got to get the sin out of him? Take the sin out of this man. Lord have mercy. He's got a lot of prayer for real. My mom always used to tell him to go pray for me.

Pray for that one. Listen, I want Lord Nazek to keep. pushing the envelope. I want him to make out a pick. Oh my gosh. What if he eat pork to make out with a pig? Your Milnaz has, eat pork. I bet you little Knivesk don't eat pork. I bet you he don't. What does that make you? Dude, what is that? I'm half of him.

What does that mean? I don't know. Just said it. You buy? No, because he did. No, you are by, dude. No, how am I buy? I buy. I'm by pork. You're by pork. Yeah, yeah. You're by pork, dude. Hey, little Nazex, you keep doing your thing, bro. Blessings, man. I ain't mad at you. I want you to, man, keep pissing these people all.

Because they just, hey, everybody's so full of shit. Yeah. Comes to, like, just who does what and who does this? And this person shouldn't do this. Who cares? Like, that's my point. I don't get, like, when I say, I don't care, it's like, bro, are y'all serious? Yeah.

Let that man live his life. Yeah. We're all trying to figure it out. And you know what? I got to applaud anybody who's living their truth. Live free, man. Be who you are. I'd rather do that than kill yourself.

A lot of people who, like, just kill themselves. Think about that? That's fucked up. And honestly, it's just come out. Honestly, that's real. It's hot. That's real. That's real.

Climate change is real. You know what I'm saying? What? If you heard what he said, if you heard what he said, it would make sense. He said, it's hot in that closet. Oh. And I said climate change is real because the temperature is sky high. We ain't got time for this shit, man.

Be free for a second, bro. You know, they always like. He's just a left-wing mouthpiece hired by the Democratic Party. They'd be saying, that much, Charlie. And I'm like, for a second, I looked at you. Like, oh, hey, what the fuck? You just went from the gay pride shit to the climate change that quick. What else we need?

Gun control. Listen, all I'm simply saying is, wax that is true. Yeah. When you can't be free, you kill yourself. Yeah, you end up killing. A lot of people be doing that shit. I'm telling you. Let people be who they are when you make people feel like they got to marginalize himself.

When you make people feel like they got to marginalize himself, when you make people feel small and you maybe you feel like they're not accepted. That's when they go out there and make permanent decisions based off temporary. Man, they're going to kill you, bro. So if I see, they're going to kill you, but damn. Because yesterday for your birthday, you're dropping it like is hot. Today, you're wearing a fucking female NBA jersey.

Hold on. How important it is to kiss dudes. Let's be clear. This ain't just no female NBA jersey. This is the motherfucking South Carolina legend. AJ motherfucking Asia Wilson. Yeah, yeah. Asia is fire.

Asia got a statue in front of the California. Lino Life Arena. And, you know, I'm sorry. I'm rooting for everybody from South Carolina always. I haven't seen you wore the jersey of that lineman that played for South Carolina. What was that guy's name? Who? He was nice.

He went to Tampa Bay now. He was nice. No, but she's from South Carolina. We know her peoples and family. Her brother, Puff. I know Asia. I played football with her brother, like, real. Yeah, I've been watching Asia since she was in college at the University of

Like she went to high school in South Carolina. Like she's really a South Carolina legend. I got a Chris Middleton jersey at the crib too. No, you don't. I just didn't wear it because they lost last night. Chris Milton from the 843. No, they won. He'd be getting busy.

Oh, the bucks lost. Who you told? They won. Oh, knock it off. The bucks lost last night. No, Trey Young went down with the ankle injury. And so did Giannis. Oh, that's right.

I'm thinking two games ago. No. He got his leg injured. Yeah, last night. The Hawks won last night. That was over. Yeah, it might be a rap. Chris Middleton's from the 843.

He went to Portagau High School in Charleston, South Carolina. Listen, I love seeing my people from South Carolina process. You got Zion? Nah, I don't got no Zion yet. Yeah, Zion. The only reason I don't got no Zion yet because it's Zion. But it's too popping. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? I love Zion, though. And the difference is, and I'm not, I'm South Carolina all day, the whole state, but that's upstate. Like, Asia is from the Metro. No, she right there. I got my own day in Colombia. You know what I'm saying? My wife went to the university in South Carolina.

Charlamina Garde. You know what I mean? Yeah, he do. That's what I was asking. What? That's what I was wondering. He said, what day? What day, motherfucker?

Like, of the month? You were gonna. I thought it was June TV. I'm all about South Carolina all day. That's my stay, brother. Yeah, my back. You know, that's fucking frauds. They gave it to be asked them.

One day in April something, man. One day, April something, my ass. You know why I don't, I'm going to tell you why I don't, I'm going to tell you why I don't, I'm going to tell you know the date. No, no. It's a, no. I'm pretty sure it's definitely in April. But I've been trying to put together.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Watch that shit, not even in April. I'm going to go. Go, keep telling your lie. Keep telling your lie. I've been trying to put together.

No, it definitely. He definitely got it. Keep telling you a lie, bro. Keep digging your grave, bro. No, I've been trying to put together Charlemagne the God Day for that day since I got the day. And my home girl, her name is Michelle Austin.

God bless the day. Michelle was the promotions director at Hot 1039 in Columbia, South Carolina. So she's been talking to me about putting it together. We were supposed to do something last year and then COVID hit. Peace. And then we couldn't do it this year

because we were still like kind of in the pandemic. So 2022, and I'm still going to do it. But Michelle was like really, really, really orchestrating it and putting it together and everything else. So, you know, rest and peace to Michelle Austin. But it's definitely, it's definitely in April. Do you know what day it is, Charlemagne the God Day in South Carolina? Columbia, South Carolina.

What day is it? June 29th. Oh, it's not perfect. Which is impressive that you forgot it. That's not the day. That's the day. Oh, it's not. It's your birthday, bro?

I got the proclamation at the house. He's not even taught. Well, you got to ask them. They gave it to him. I got the proclamation at the house. It's not in June. If it was my birthday, I would know. I wish it was my birthday.

I'd be so easy. It is your birthday, bro. No, it's not. It may not. It's not. It's not my birthday. It's not my birthday. It's in April.

I got the proclamation at the house from Stephen in. I don't think it's your birthday either. No, it's not. Why don't you guys? It's actually April. April 8th. No, it's not. It's possible.

Just made that shit up, though. It's April 8th. Yeah, it's possible. I'm looking at it right now. Look, because I'm looking at when they gave me the award. So how much do I got donate to university to get that shit?

What? No, that wasn't from the school. That was from Steve Benjamin, the mayor, the mayor of Columbia, South Carolina. Oh, really? Yeah, April 8th. April 8th is Charlemagne de God Day in Columbia South Carolina.

Next year, we're definitely doing something. Is that when they made you a Democratic operative? No, man. You are a Democratic operative, right? It depends. Like, you know, we had Secretary Pete on yesterday. He told me I was too hard on him.

How? Wait a minute, what? This guy's so stupid. They told me I was too hard on them. What do you mean? I don't know. He said I was pressing him too much because, you know, my whole thing was saying to him, like, I mean, we was having a great conversation, but it was like,

what was it about? A lot of different things. I said, do you think that the fate of, because they always say the democracy is at stake? So do you think America's democracy is at stake? And he's like, yeah. And I'm like, well, how come Democrats don't act like it then? because if something is at stake. Yeah, for a right.

If it's going to be the end of something as we know it. You'll put your all in. Imagine if the Avengers were just sitting around like, oh, you know, if there was no sense of urgency at the end game. House on fire. You know what I'm saying? If there was no sense of urgency in Infinity War, how would you be looking at the Avengers?

Well, that's how that Miss Universe. What's the name of the girl? Oh, Captain Marvel. pops in whenever she feels like it. Captain Marvel was the illest. No. No, I'll tell you why. Captain Marvel said the illest shit and all the endgame

and people forget about it. Stop it, stop it, stop. When Don Cito goes, where the fuck have you been? And she goes, you know it's more than one planet out here in this solar system and they don't have you motherfuckers. That's a perfectly great logical answer. What do you tell you? You got Thor here, the Incredible Hulk?

What y'all need me for? So that's what a husband's supposed to say to his wife. There's so many fucking girls out here. How are you expecting this? All right. It made sense, right? I'm thinking I'm searching. Hold on Dr. Strange in it.

Literally see, it's about 14 million different logical explanations for that. No, no, haven't found one. Dr. Strange at least found one. I didn't find one in what you said just now. What did you say? I'm saying, like you said,

it was like there's so many other planets out here, so many other women out here, that's why men go out. Is that how you feel, wax? No, no, not at all. I'm happy. I'm probably going to get married before you because I didn't know you's going to get married so fast

So I'm like I want to beat you I always wanted to beat you before you did that Nah, you're not going to beat me, bro Is that soon? He said December. December, bro, I ain't even hear that. When do you guys go on vacation by the way? Next week.

No, no, no, when you guys take care of winter. Oh, yeah, I'm taking the whole month for December off, bro. Oh, so you guys probably won't be able to be there. When is it? Yeah, I figure that out. December 18th. I thought I'm taking the whole month off.

Oh, but I thought you usually go to Anguilla. No, I'm not going to my Anguilla for a month. I'll probably go to Angula like after Christmas. Yeah. So, okay. So is it around or a destination is around? It will be on the West Coast. Okay, I'm not mad.

Not too big. You got it already planned out and everything? All right, okay. How much work did you do in this? None of it. Okay. I don't feel bad there. I don't feel bad, though.

It's not our day. We got dressed like everybody else. That's right. That's right. You're the only one in the white dress. I'm dressed like all my friends. Brough. She said I can wear white tea.

But I'm not the, you can't wear white. Don't do that, man. Don't wear white. What are you talking about? It's going to be dope. You put on a tie to go to court, but not for your wedding? I went to, I went to, um, court went to tie. Yes.

No, I did not. You never went to, yes, you did. Hell, no, I did not. What did you have on in court? I had a fucking, I had a black tea on. That was my thing. You're a liar. Oh, yeah.

You're a goddamn liar. No, I had a baggy, I had some baggy ass of church pants. Um, I had so. That's my dress shirt. No, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did had some slippery shoes, though. But I didn't have a, I had a, had a black shirt. black tea on. He's lying. You were there? No. But he had on a

shirt and tie. No, I did not go with a certain tie. When you were saying Amazing Grace. I did not have a certain tie because I went on my coach. He took me from football practice. My coach took me to court. Man, they should have put you in the day. He's still put him. He's going to give you a little light year. I can't believe you would disrespect to court like that. I was tired of that shit, man. What are you talking about?

You were cleats? It was like, listen. Whatever this charge is, you're going to take me, you're not going to take me. What you were doing? No, that's not true. You could have, I mean, you did beat it. Praise the Lord. So it was all God. It's all God.

Psalms 91 took me out of there. I guess you know what? In church they say come as you are. So I guess it don't matter. So you think I'm really act like that for that. Yeah, if you got an anoint on your life, you might as well. Praise the Lord. But for her, you should show her that I care about you in a real way.

Like fuck people up, man. Come out there in a suit and tie. You know what I mean? A nice fitted joint. Everybody would like, oh shit. I never seen wax. You wore a suit to his wedding. I know.

You definitely did. I didn't recognize you. You did. You did. You did. And you didn't have your hat on. That was another thing. You know what?

Don't tell her this because she's going to be. No, call it's right. He definitely had a suit tie on my wedding. That's right. You look weird without a hat on too. Like you look different. And that Frost is waiting. You had a suit and tie on.

It did. Yeah. I didn't have a tie. Yes, you did. No idea because they got a final tie. Yes, you did. Because everybody was like, yo, they had a bet. They were betting if Wackett and wear Tim's with his suit.

When he wears Tim's in the fitted with his suit. He kept the fitted on. He didn't wear the Tim's. No, no, I wore the Tims I didn't have to fit it. You didn't have to fit it? I don't fucking remember. Yeah, but he just wanted to see the ball spot. That's it.

How big is it? Eh, it's chilling. Yo, put this back in the conversation by little Knives Ex-Lade us so we can, you know what I'm saying? Have a show asking wax how big it is. You know what I mean? Just so they don't sound too homophobic, okay? I'm not. I just don't care.

I want him to go make out and shit. I want him to fucking do Biggie's tin crack commandments over. and really piss all of y'all to fuck off. And how would he do it? I don't know, but he could figure it out. Tang crack commandments. One. Number 10.

Don't eat pork. What? What is number 10? You got the 10crack commandments. Don't eat pork. It starts at 10, right? I don't know. I'm not playing it.

If it 10, I hope so. Maybe it starts at 1, it goes to 10. But no, let's, huh? Maybe it starts at 1 and goes to 10. One. How does it start off? 10. Oh, yeah, it starts off at 10.

It goes down and counts down. 10. Rule number uno. Rule number one, no one know. How much do you hold? Okay, yeah, I guess it is one. The jealousy. What did it, nah, there's something, cheta breed, jealousy.

Yeah, the cheta breeds, jealousy. Get your ass fucked up. Let's salute to Biggie, man. We miss Biggie so much, man. Number one. Biggie, Biggie, Biggie, balance things out. You know what I'm saying? Biggie comes from an era where you could say she looks so good.

I suck on her daddy's dick and nobody flinched. Yo, nobody asked who he was looking at. I would love to know who that girl is. They love calling me gay. Guess who don't give a fuck? You? I bet you'd be mad if somebody say you eat pork. No, I don't eat no pork.

That's what I'm trying to say. I would be more. But they call you gay, they don't say you suck dicks, and they don't say you take it in the ass. They absolutely do. They say you suck dicks and taking the ass? They absolutely do. You know what I?

I'm trying to read that. And you know what I do? What is it? Feed into it. What do you do? Yeah, man, I've been trolling things. people for a year. I used to have the dolls behind, you know, that was hilarious. That was hilarious. Nobody, it was so funny watching people go crazy on YouTube. They was, my people's mad at me like,

yo, bro. What's up, y'all? I used to have the two male dolls in the back, the Envy dog, and the Charlemagne doll, and have them in different sexual positions, every interview. And people would just, they would go crazy in the YouTube comments. I would never, listen, I would never say anything about It's every day. It's right behind my shoulder. I'm on there just talking about whatever. I never mentioned them once. You know, real serious conversations too.

Serious. Serious. So much to the point, I had a whole story line. I could put together a whole storyline of videos from them dolls. Because at the end, I had two, I put two girl dolls up there. It was a diamond and crime, diamond and princess doll from crime mob. And I put, I've been delivered. And I had my own around books.

around both dolls and put envy off to the side looking sad. I do shit like that. I don't give a fuck. That's why I can understand why Little Nause is doing that. Number one, that's who he is. But number two, he's like, fuck y'all.

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Vegas. we're going to be adding more. I think we add another one in San Diego. The first one I got sold out, man. Thank you guys so much for coming to these shows and supporting everything. And the special tapings in Austin are all sold out. But we're going to see maybe we add another one there. News to come next week.

Thank you all so much, man. I really appreciate it. And yeah, this tour is going to be wild. So I'm excited for y'all to see. Waxy? You got some church announcements? Almost all my herbs is out. there in LA, please go get that.

And I also have the Fourth of July sell for my lemonade. Only I do this, go to Wax 4th of July and get 25% off. You know what I'm saying? Go to who's wax. comnet and go get some of that lemonade y'all need. You're a sellout, bro. You didn't do no wax June teeth. You're going to wax.

Oh, that's true. You know what? I don't even know it's all about anyway. Just listen, at the end of the day, we're going to get more and more lemonade, so it's going to be a day for wax. What discount would you get? give for Juneteenth. Like June 10th?

Who's black? Who's black with who's wax? Listen, a Juneteenth, like, I give a first hunt off. Matter of fact, if you put a cold June 10th. It is? Oh, Lord. How later you did? Man, it's a new holiday, man.

I ain't even get with the old holidays. How I'm going to get with the new holidays? A new holiday. Your new 4th of July. Because it's like how long it's been. That's a good point. You know what I'm saying? I'm just going on. You want me to remember

Juanza? Okay. Who can you remember your own holiday? April. Exactly. Stop. April 8, baby. Stop.

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I don't, I ain't do nothing to me. me yet. I don't, I mean, my mother was English teacher. You know what I'm saying? So she kept a book in my face and she was Jehovah Witness. If I wasn't reading my book of Bible stories or something out of the Bible, it was that go go get something from the library. And we had to book it program. You know what I mean? You had to read four books to get a free pizza. So my mama was like, yo, make sure you read things that don't pertain to you. And I like pizza. So I used to run through a bunch of books. I like to read. I'm reading right now. I'm so Let's talk about the news.

What is that? We got your cake. Oh, that's beautiful, man. Absolutely. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. How my white homie saying to Stevie Wonder version.

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Yo! You're welcome. You know, I was talking to y'all earlier. You know, we had Ebony Williams on the show. Our homie, Ebony Williams, she's the host of the Holding Court podcast on the Black Effect IHeartRadio Podcast Network. First Black Housewife on the Real Housewives of New York.

This is a very sharp, sharp young lady. And I love the conversation that Ebony had. I'm actually going to send it to you, Alex, so you can, you know, insert it. But basically, Ebony said she would be the type of wife that would curate the house, make sure the house looks good, make sure the house smells good, make sure the house is always clean. You'd have a hot meal every day. You know what I mean?

Everything. She would hold everything down at the house, but she don't want to pay no bills. If coming home to a sanctuary is important to you. If coming home to a curated home where you are king of your castle, where it looks good, it smells good, good. There's a hot meal. You don't have to worry about where your clothes are. They're clean. They're hanging up. Everything's organized. Your kids are clean. They've done their homework. Those things. I'm the woman for you. I really believe a woman's role is to curate a safe, very comfortable, loving homes. I agree to you by Destiny's child. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

And I could be, I could, I can make a house a home. Yeah. I believe that's a woman's role. That said, I'm not paying no mortgage. No, I'm not paying no mortgage. I'm dead ass. Not even $5. Not even $5 fucking dollars. What about bills? You pay the bills?

Not even five. Not ever going to laugh about that. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead ass. But yeah. You know I like the fact that you said that because you are an independent woman. You got your own money.

You don't need no man, but nothing. No. But if I'm going to be your wife, right? And you're going to be my husband. husband, be my husband. And everybody has a different standard. I have tons of girlfriends, at various income levels, they pay up to half. Some pay 70% of their mortgage. I wouldn't know. And now half is fine with me. I'm not doing 70% and I don't judge it. I do half. There's a lot. There's a lot. And I don't judge at all. I think it works for their marriage. And let's be clear. What I know from a failed marriage,

you got to do it works for your marriage. Not anybody else's, right? So I love it. You like it. I love it. But for me, protecting and providing is paramount. What if I hire someone to do all the things that she just said? Well, what if I hire? What if I hire? Personal chef. What if I hire a cleaning lady? Even with that, even with that your wife, I believe,

would still be holding down certain things. Just because that's just what wives do you. You know what I mean? Because guess what? Everybody's supervising. You know what I'm saying? Managers. Exactly.

But even if you're hiring those people, to do certain things, the woman in the house still has to dictate what needs to be done where. I guess it depends on what the house looks like. Like at a certain point in time, there's diminishing returns for like clean the house and cooking. Like if you got a one bedroom apartment and you cook clean, take care of everything, groceries there, we're good. She also said kids too.

And with the ill thing that she said- Well, kids is different. She don't have any kids so we don't know if that's true. But this is the ill thing she said. She didn't just say her kid. She said, your kids. you know what I mean? So she said, your kids,

possibly your kids, so you might come in with kids. Yeah. If she's willing to hold that down. I'm just saying, like if we're living in like a $25 million mansion, if you think it's an even exchange for like preparing my scrambled eggs in the morning

and me buying a $25 million mansion, like you got something off. Yeah, but guess what? You're lying to yourself. Every man lies in himself. Would you rather have the $25 million mansion or a bad woman? 25 million dollars.

You're a liar. Because that mansion comes with bad women. But that's the point. Either way, you still want the woman. You're still going to get a woman there. And you're not going to want something just to smash all of them. No, I'll take my wife over anything. I thought we just told you, well, you say bad woman. I thought you just meant like...

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I thought you meant just like a bad woman. I thought you were afraid to say bad bitch. No, no, no, your wife is a bad woman. Of course, of course, of course, course, course. No, no, I hear what you're saying. Like, I don't know. I personally like that.

I just don't... I like that equation. I love being taken care. of. I think it's a really amazing situation and really, honestly, like, it taps into my heart. Like, if a girl takes care of me and she wants me to be taking, my girl takes care of and that's why you take care of her. Absolutely. That's why you take care of that mortgage and the bills and everything else. The reason I like what Ebony said is because it was Ebony saying. Because you're always here the chick that ain't got nothing. Yeah. Talking about how, you know,

she wants a man to take care of the thing. Oh, interesting. You know what I'm saying? No, that's interesting. It's always the chick who can't take care of themselves. that saying they want a man to take care of everything. Did you, did you hear that dizzy fucking chick the other day on, it was going viral a little bit and she was like her ex put her in a new apartment, but he got to keep paying for it because he brought her up to a new lifestyle and he can't just take her away from that new lifestyle since. Now, ex what?

Ex-boyfriend. Oh, no, ex-boyfriend. No way. Ex-boyfriend, you don't owe that? No. Ex-husband. Right, though? You saw the clip I'm talking about?

Yeah, I saw the clip. Yeah. Ex-husband, yes. Yes. Ex-boyfriend? No. Wait, wait, wait, hold. Ex-husband, if we're married and then we become divorced, I still got to pay your bills.

If you brought me to his lifestyle, yes. That's actually, that's actually what happened. So you're going to make her go back to the ghetto or the projects or wherever she was going there? Oh, yeah, you got to talk. Yes. No, no, no, no, you got to talk to your people. No, no, you can't even do that. And you have me in a mansion?

Yeah, I'm not going to say who it is, but I'll tell you after the pod, but I was, I was at this person's really big plush house. And they were like, yeah, my wife got the same kind of house right down the street. And I'm like, really? And it was like, yeah, because, you know, when you get a divorce, when she goes to court, she has to, she has to maintain the same lifestyle as you did, especially being that they got young kids. You can't, you can't do that. Why?

I don't know. That's the real hard. Mommy house is over there and daddy houses over here. Ain't going to do it. Where's the patriarchy when it comes to this shit? Hey, man. Double standards, baby. That's right.

This guy, this guy lived a certain lifestyle. His wife was with him. They had kids. You can't scale down. But it speaks to the kind of. what Ebony says because she says she'll work. I mean, she'll stop working and take care of the house. So it was like she had to sacrifice her career.

Okay. That's a good point. I don't know if Ebony said that. I don't know. I like where you took the conversation. I like that. I like that logic. But these rules.

I know she said that. Those rules were put in place when women weren't working. But I like that idea. Like if you come up with somebody, I don't see why they shouldn't have half. Oh, but God forbid. I don't even put it out there. But we know what you're saying? me and my wife ever got divorced,

which will never happen. I hope not. But God forbid, right? Yes. Absolutely take half. Yeah. You've been with me for 23 years. Because you helped build the whole thing.

You have to be there. If you marry some girl, it doesn't work out after a year, and now you've got to keep this girl in a mansion for the rest. Like, that's crazy. We want pre-nup. We want pre-nup. Hell yeah. I think you should go in it with a pre-nup and then take the pre-nup after like five

years or six years. No, no. No, no, no ever take it away. I knew a guy who did that. Nah. Oh, yeah? He ripped it up after their like second kid or third kid. He was like, nah.

You know, you deserve half. If you do it, I give you half. That's different. Yeah, yeah. Second third kid's different because it's like five years, two kids. You're going to want her to be good. You're going to want the kids to be good, whatever. That's kind of interesting.

The idea like all, I mean, we kind of have a pre-nup built into a lot of marriages, right? Like, I think they say that if you're married less than a year, it's an old or something like that or less than a month. Oh, what Kim Kardashian did. Was that it? She got one of her marriages, a nulled. I think that's... I think it was like right before they were supposed to be like locked in.

She got out of that. Exactly. So now nobody gets anything. So it's almost like the law understands sometimes you make a mistake. So we're going to give you a little room to see if you made the mistake. And what you're basically saying is, well, why don't you give me a little bit more room than that? Let's do a five year period where everybody had a pre-nup. And if you make it past that five years, it's like hopefully by then you got a family.

You guys have been invested in different things. You put time into your businesses, your life. She deserves some of that. I love that. But it's a lot of different. circumstances that have to be involved. Like you said, two or three kids, man. Five years, you know what I'm saying?

We don't got no kids. Even if you get one, I ain't giving you half. You don't need half of, if I got a billion dollars, why do you need half of my billion dollars to get one kid? Oh, that's another thing. Like, we got it. Like, there's limits for how much athletes get paid, but not wives. That's crazy.

Salary cap. What a goddamn salary cap. Like, think about that. Like, if 30 million is enough for LeBron now, like that's enough, if the NBA says that's enough for LeBron to make, he shouldn't make any more than 30 million. How the fuck can Jeff Bezos's wife make $8 billion or whatever the fuck is? Now, she started the company with him, and I understand that she was like doing instrumental

and building it. So she deserves hers on that level. I'm not saying she's not. But maybe there's a better example of a wife that did not do that. She married a super rich guy, and now he got to hit her off with hundreds of millions of dollars. It's like, come on, bro. Why the thing I saw was Dr. Dre's wife asking for money, all this money. But I don't care about the money part.

It was the I want money for charity. You're already getting... You're a million of dollars. You want me to give you money to give the charity? So who gets the karma? Who gets the blessing? Do you get the blessing? Because it's my money?

I'm giving you money to give the charities. Like, Jeff Bezo's wife, she got the money. She uses that money that she got to give the charities. She's a lot of them. Why would I need to pay you to donate the charity? That was wild. I don't know if she won that, but just the request was wild. She's doing a lot.

She just wanted to hit on anywhere. or a bad lawyer or just somebody who was greedy. She just wanted to get as much as possible. Just as much as possible. Being greedy, you ain't got to be like that. Get out the way. But I do respect what, I respect what Ebony said. I think what Evan He said was very clear and it was very fair.

And the key thing that she said was this is what I think. She wasn't making no generalizations. She was like, if she said, I'm going to do X, Y, and Z. And this is what I want you to do. I don't have a problem with that because I think a man's job is to protect and provide. Yeah. And I've been on both sides. You know what I'm saying?

When I first got fired from Wendy Williams Show back in the day, I was too proud to go collect unemployment. I was at home with my oldest daughter when she was born, because I got fired November 2008. She was born June 2008. I stayed home with my baby while my wife went to work. You know what I'm saying? When we got behind on bills and, you know, we was late on rent.

She's the one that had to go stand in front of the courtroom and let the courtroom know why we weren't able to pay our bills in that way. Really? Hell yeah. My wife held it all the way down. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, for me, it's like, now, tables have turned in a very significant way,

I don't want her to do nothing. She does her personal training on the side, and she holds it down the house. She's the CEO of the house. That's what she does. Look, I love that too, and I think it's, like, unfortunate. I think here's the big misconception

is that men are not supportive of a woman who wants to take care of the house and take care of the kids. Every big. We absolutely are. 100%. I love it. I think the pushback comes when, like,

there's an entitlement, especially from a woman who doesn't even have kids with you and feels like they deserve this treatment because they're with you. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody deserves anything. Like, we both play roles in the relationship. That's right. And like, you're not doing me a favor by taking care of the house. I'm not doing you a favor by working. We both work together to build this shit. That's right. That's right. That's right. So I think that's where we get a little bit resentful. It's like, well, I don't tell you

every single day. You know what I did? I worked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't need to thank you. I don't need none of that. But you get to go outside, though. Exactly. You get to see your friends. I can't see my friends at work, except that's what I do for work.

Yeah, and I think we should respect the fact, you know, of a woman who can do her own thing. You know what I'm saying? If a woman can do her own thing, if a woman can make her own money, if a woman's already educated and she's choosing to play the role of the housewife. And she was like, you know what? You want me to cool out and kick it at the house and take care of kids? You got to respect that. She's literally giving up her dreams and aspirations to hold it down for the family. That's the ultimate sacrifice.

100%. You know what? And guess what? If I could do it, I would too. You wouldn't sit your ass down somewhere? I don't think. I don't know. I mean neither.

No, I'm about just saying. I ain't going to lie to you. Because I see what she's doing and I cannot do it. Like, it's a superwoman. There's no way. I was going to go crazy over it. Her taking too long, she said he's going to take a shower. She was on the phone for like 15 minutes before she wanted to shower.

I was catching that whole attitude. Like you said you were taking the showers. I'm already timing you. You're 22 minutes or something. You know what I'm saying? When you go past that 22 minutes? Hey. Hey, man.

I tried to say it on this podcast a few weeks ago. It's just a thing that women have with the kids that men don't have. And guess what? God bless you. I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it. My five-year-old and two-year-old abuse me.

And I'm screaming for help. I'm no. I love my baby. I love them, but no. I really can't do it yet. Ah, man. Give me a little couple more years, I promise you I got you. We could go do things together.

When they older? Peace. Cool. You know what I'm saying? When they babies and five and two, it's like I'm not built for a lot. Daddy ain't built for me. How many times them would do this? What did you do during that time

where you were unemployed? And then you guys were kind of struggling where you were trying to get a job. Stupidest shit in the world. Turning ghost face on. Ghostface music, soul, child song, love. Ever the baby would start crying.

No, no, not to take care of the baby. To get a job. Like, were you scrambling? Did you ever think about not following your passion and radio? Oh, no, I was, um, yo, man, I was just waiting on God. I knew what it was.

Like in my life, that's been, that's been my life. And that's what I tell people all the time. You get to a certain point that when you look back, you know whatever set back, you know what I'm saying, happens in your life. It's just like, I don't know God got something greater. And that's literally what I was doing. I was just sitting back. My daughter was born in June.

Wife was going to work. I'm going to sit here with my baby. And I'm going to just wait on God. And at that time, that was 2008. I just had got on Twitter. But I remember those days vividly because Duval kept telling me, Get on Twitter, get on Twitter. I'm like, what the hell is Twitter?

So I tried it, and I didn't know they had at replies. So I would tweet and be like, man, this shit is whack, man. Like, all you do is just talk to yourself all day. And he was like, bro, hit the act. I'm like, what the hell is the at? He was like, that little squirrel, you know, that do all the time. That little squirrely sign shit, looks like a cinnamon roll. So I hit it.

And I'm like, oh, shit. And then you get to see all these people that fuck with you. You know what I'm saying? And people that miss you because you ain't on the radio no money. I'm like, oh, wow. I still ain't know that. Yeah. I remember seeing Emma Angelou was in my mentions.

And I'm like, oh, shit, Angelie. Hit her up. I just hit her. And she was like, oh, come on my radio show. That's when she was doing, uh, Cheap 45 morning show. So that time I was, I was fired. I think I went up to her show like a couple times. Get out of.

Yeah, to do satellite radio. And then, I mean, between that and Wendy's show, that's when I got the call to come do morning radio in Philadelphia. So between that and Wendy's show? So after. No, between Wendy's show. in Philly. Yeah, I ended up, yeah, between Wendy's show, I was at home with my first daughter, and then I ended up going to do morning radio in Philadelphia.

And then how much time passed? From November, like November, I was fired from November 2009 to May of 2010. Oh, wow. So, significant amount of time. Oh, yeah, yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. I was at home for like five, six months. And were you, like, trying to get a job? Were you calling people?

It was social media at that time. So social media was the thing. So we'd be tech, you know, we'd be tweeting. And like I said, I would go up to, I would go up to Angela's show. I went up to Angela show a couple of times this year, 45. I think me and Duvall were still doing Hood State of the Union. You know what I mean? So stuff like that was out there.

It wasn't like, you know, my voice wasn't being heard. It just wasn't radio. And then I ended up getting the gig in Philly. And what was so great about the gig in Philly, now I understood how to use the Internet. So when I was doing my interviews in Philly, I knew what websites to send them to. I knew where to post them and that's why that stuff would go viral. So I had like the interview with Cassie

and Red Cafe that went crazy by. I had another interview. Did Beanie Siegel? That's the last interview I did before I get fired. That went crazy byr. So I just knew how to utilize the internet. Freeway Ricky Ross.

He was another one. I interviewed him in Philly. Put that out online. So I understood how to utilize the internet. So that time I was off, helped me to understand the internet in the real way and then went to Philly and used it a lot. And that's what ended up getting me

on Power 105. You got fired in Philly. Yeah. And then you're again unemployed. Oh, yeah, I had to go back home. I had to go back home with my mom then. How long? I was there for a year. Really? Oh, yeah. And did you immediately go back home? Yeah. Because we had

already cleaned out the house because I cleaned out the apartment to move to Philadelphia to do radio. And then you got fired. The day of. The day of. I had all my shit in the car. I had Duval. I picked the wall up from the airport. And I had got fired. I could have all my stuff in because after work,

I was going to go take some stuff over to the house. I got fired. I think that Monday, I picked Duval up. And, you know, it was a big story that I got fired that Monday.

It went crazy vile. Right? Duval getting it. Duval goes, damn, my dog homeless, man. He said, man, what you need, man? He said, my dog homeless, man. I'm like, bro.

I'm not homeless. And I'm explaining the story to him. He was like, bro. He's like, bro. You don't got to lie to me, bro. I'm telling them the truth. And so, yeah, we left. We stayed with my wife's grandma and Coney Island for a little while,

and we was out, drove down to South Carolina. And that's when I took my ass to that goddamn unemployment office. And since I had been fired four times, I got $1,100 for a week for a whole year, baby. Man, get out of here. Oh, man, I had four firings. I got fired from radio four times. You get more money?

Huh? No, I never collected unemployment ever. unemployment from each one. Every single place. I never collected unemployment ever. So you're back home, you're getting $1,000 a week, which is you can live well down there for $11 a week. I was living with my mom.

And you're living at home. In the trailer? No, it's just my mom had a house by then. This was 2000. You've been telling his trailer stories so long. I've been. We've been that moved out the trailer. My dad had been built a home from my mom.

Okay, so then you go and you're in this. So you're in this house. You live with your mom. Your wife is also living there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And your daughter. Hey, man, thanks for never reading Black Privilege, bro. I appreciate it.

I read the whole thing on twice speed. I told you. I read the whole thing on 2X. You listen to it. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Well, I must have spent past this fucking part. Got you, got you, got you. But I did the whole thing in 2X.

The first weekend it came out. Thank you. I did not read the second one. Had none of this in there. Well, that's why, but I did listen to the first one in 2X. Gotcha, got you. I remember being in my hotel room. and listening to it.

Anyway. But I don't know. It's just fascinating to me. Like, you just kept doing the same thing that you kept getting fired from. Because it was, I call it divine misdirection. That's why I tell people like,

sometimes you can be doing everything right and things may not go to where you want them. I'm not tripping. I just always knowing my life that God has something better. That's literally been the story of my life. How can get back on radio? Because of the stuff I had been doing prior.

And then I was down in, you know, Monk's Corner for a year, but I had been on Wendy's show for, what, two and a half years? I was in Philly for like 10 months. Okay, so you had a pedigree and you're like, fuck it. Someone's getting me. Me and Duvall were still doing Hood State of the Union. So you were still part of the culture? Yeah, I mean, I remember me and Jason Lee.

We did a demo for a show called The Funeral. I think it was me, Jason Lee and Claudia Jordan. Like, it was a lot of things that was still going on. Plus, it literally was social media. At that point, 2010, social media kept you in the conversation. That's another thing, because there was one platform we were all on it.

That's right. Twitter. That's right. That's right. Is that when you did that music video about pink shirts? No, that was doing radio in Columbia. That was 2000. I saw that on Reddit the other day.

I was 03. He put it up? Yeah. Waxing the video, he slammed somebody. Yeah, beat the dude guy out. He slammed Timmy Tim in the pink shirt. Wait, like an actual fight or not? Nah.

Nah, it was the whole point of the video was how men shouldn't wear pink. Yeah. You know what I mean? And so at the end of the video, waxing, like, I think powder might have been there, too. They all grabbed Timmy Tim and slam them. Get him out of there. Wedgy. Stupid.

But yeah, that was like 0-3. 0-2-0-2. Did you ever have any time when you were doing the breakfast club where you were about to do something wild on the radio and you're like, man, I don't want to be fired again, man? No. Because it was all about survival from that, from 2,000. When I got on Breakfast Club, it was just like, I'm going out. Guns are blazing. They will never forget my name.

That's why it's all this wild, stupid shit out there right now. Because it was all about survival for me. I was, I know it was guns of fucking blazing. But some people might look at survival as, hey, if I play this a little bit towards the middle. Nah, I couldn't play it safe. I had to bust New York City's ass. We was coming in and we were going up against the legendary Hot 97. and it was like, no, I had to shoot.

It wasn't, I couldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't play a safe for. No, I felt like if I played it safe, I wouldn't have gotten to where I've gotten to. And you know what? Yeah, and I was right. And I had to shoot. I had to shoot, like, shoot in a big way, kick the fucking table over. And that's what we did. And, you know, it's everything, everything happens for a reason.

That's why I can't, like, I don't sit here and regret anything I used to, but I think that's what I was, that's when I wasn't, like, comfortable with all parts of myself. You know what I'm saying? And it's like now I'm comfortable with all parts of myself and all versions of myself because I've gotten to a different place of healing and holdness, to be totally honest. So it's like, I can't run from that. Like what people, if people want to weaponize the old me versus the new me, cool. Because guess what? That old part of me played a role. That old part of me had a purpose to. You know what I'm saying? And you can't get me now without having me then. And I wouldn't be here now if it wasn't for that version of me then.

So it's just like, yo, I bring that guy with me now too. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what? Thank you, bro. I appreciate you. Now rock with me while I go live the rest of my life. You know what I'm saying? You need some healing anyway.

Yeah, you were. Yeah, you was broken, bro. You know what I'm saying? You was broken. You know, you had a lot of insecurities. You had a lot of trauma you didn't deal with. We're going to work through all of this together. Because you can't shun any version of yourself.

Right. You can't. Nobody in this room. I'm talking about the five-year-old version of you, the teenage version of you, the 20-year version of you, the versions of you that you didn't like, you can't suppress none of that. And if you ever wonder why certain things keep coming back up,

certain trauma still trigger you, it's because you haven't healed those versions of yourself that still fucking exist within you. It's really interesting your story because most people look at it and be like, uh, there's a, uh, there's a common phrase, right? It's like, uh, if you're repeating the same thing, expecting a different result,

you're crazy. Yeah. You basically were crazy until it worked. Well, no. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Here's the thing. Those four times I got fired

was all for different reasons and a lot of, most of those reasons had nothing to do with me. When I got fired from Hot 98-9 in Charlton, South Carolina, my man Corey Hill, they bought in a new program director. He wanted to hire new people.

That was just the business. It didn't matter what my ratings were. I got to bring in my team. You know what I mean? Plus, when we sat down and had a conversation, I wasn't fucking with this dude, no way. And I was super cocky, arrogant. Fuck you. Who are you? You know what I mean?

Annie was white. Nah, fuck out of here, Corey Hill. But that's my guy. You know, I got nothing but love and respect for Cory Hill. Then I go to fucking the Big DM in Columbia, South Carolina. You know what I mean? Big DM in Columbia, South Carolina. The station flip formats.

And then I can do about that. Right. You know what I mean? Then I go to Hot 103-9 in Columbia, South Carolina. I end up getting with Wendy. My program director time, Chris Conner, is like, yo, you can't do both. Cool.

I'm going to go with Wendy. Wendy was layoffs. Literally, they fired 25 people with me. So it's like all of these things are just things that happened in the business. You know what I mean? Same thing with Philly. They bought it in a new program director,

Boogie D. You know what Boogie D got told? I don't know why you firing, Shalaman. But if this doesn't work out, we got to ship you back to St. Louis. Didn't work out. God bless Boogie D. You know,

to him. But it's like all of that stuff just happened. All that stuff happened for reasons. When you look back, you're just like, hey, man, I learned this here. I learned that here. It was all part of the process. And I'm sitting here now. I'm, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be at this moment in time. Doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And the evolution will continue. That's it. That's all. You should have wrote your book like that, bro. I did. That's exactly how I wrote it. Okay. Black Privileges in New York Times bestseller.

All right? Like, damn it. I don't think you included that shit in it. That was all that was all in that. That was all in that. It was a New York Times bestseller for like 10 weeks in a row. Matter of fact, 11 weeks in a row. Yeah, it's damn near like at a million copies sold.

What? A lot of people. Black privilege? Bro, black, hold on. It was a hot book. Now it's a hot book imprint. Black Privilege publishing. What's wrong with y'all?

You don't think I just, God is good. I'm just saying, God is good. God is really, really good, man. Don't you want to read that story, guys? It's in black privilege. It's a book. Don't you want to read? You want to sit down back?

You know what's interesting? What you said, though, Shultz? You do what you can with the information you have at the time, right? It's like, it's probably jokes you told five years ago that if you told them now, they'd be way better. Yeah, of course. because you got more information, your language is better,

you're more refined, you know what I'm saying, you've grown, you've evolved. That's just the way things are. That's why, like I said, you can't regret nothing. I remember when Malcolm Gladwell was on

and Malcolm Gladwell told us there's things in his books that he don't even believe anymore? I'm like, you piece of shit. I could not grasp that concept at the time. I've been going to lure over some of this shit that you said in your fucking book, you don't believe no more.

But here's the thing. What he believed in outliers will help somebody on their journey. It just doesn't probably serve him anymore because he's grown, he's older, he's got more information. With a 20-year-old will pick up outliers and be like, damn, yeah, 10,000 hours.

You know what I mean? He's really what you're going to. He still wants to collect checks on outliers. Outliers can still serve somebody. It just doesn't serve him anymore. Right, right. That's all. It's just like, no, I'm busting.

Yeah, it's so many things that don't serve, it's so many things that don't serve any of us anymore. But guess what? Yeah. It's in the history books, baby. It's on record. It is a cool story. Go back, listen to the, like Jay said,

if you want old Charlemagne, go listen to old radio shows. Go listen to old podcast. Would you ever consider writing a story, a book just about that point in your life? What you mean? Then telling the story that you just said to me. It's in, man, shut up, man.

How about to say, why did you tell that story? I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am working on. something though. Ooh. I am working on something. I'm definitely doing a third book. So I do have a... What about a movie?

What about like a film or something like that based on this point of your life? I'm sure at some point it will be... The trials and tribulations of boonky nose. I'm sure at the trial... The tribulations of booky nose. Listen, I'm sure all of that's going to happen at some point. I'm not rushing nothing.

I'm 43, bro. Yeah, you got time, bro. I hope. From what I know, I got time, I'm here. Like, we got a love, we got to, we got a, like, that's the beauty of life, right? Like, we've been around a long time. So we got a long way to go, bro. At least, at least.

If we're lucky, we're blessed. I know we're annoyed it. I know we are, and we got a long way to go because I know who you, who you aspire to. I know you feel like it's a lot of things you want to do, right? Of course, absolutely. It's a lot of things that I still want to do. Wax, I know there's a lot of things he's still. I mean to see.

I didn't even start yet. I mean, seriously, just hearing you talk about is really, obviously, it's really just enlighting. You have a cool, unique story. And I know that you did include it. But, like, you've been incredibly connected and it seems like incredibly important thing for you that you're passionate about, like, mental health. Did you ever think about writing a book about that and your experience?

Yeah. I was thinking about it. I think I'm going to name it. I'm shook one. You know what I'm saying? I'd be great. I probably have like a cool subtitle, like anxiety playing tricks on me. Yeah, yeah.

You know what I mean? I think that would be like something cool to do. I think that'd be sick, man, because it seems like it's something incredibly important to you and you could definitely help a lot of people. Probably help eradicate the stigma around it a little bit. You know what I'm saying? 100% especially in that community. That's a great idea.

Yeah, I like that. Shook one. Shook one. I like that title was catchy. Shook one. I might even go to therapy. Shook one. I think Michael J.

Fox's his autobiography is called Shook one. Took one. Oh, my God. Hey, man, as always, if you look at this podcast and you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. If you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too, you know?

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