The Brilliant Idiots - Ponzi Stream

Episode Date: July 20, 2023

This week the guys get into it from the jump, discussing Andrew's struggle with anxiety, if Dr. Fauci is behind Chris' Lyme disease and whether the writers and actors strike is the beginning of the end for Hollywood. Andrew and Char also breakdown the significance of Jay-Z's exhibit at the Brooklyn Public Library and in an epic tribute to old school hip-hop, perform their own acapella version of Salt and Peppa's "Shoop." Plus, as always, they answer your most pressing questions in Ask An Idiot. ************************************************** Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount+ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ Empty Thoughts Podcast podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empt…ow/id1622292632 Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Podcastbrilliant idiots charlamagne tha godandrew schulz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I love the premise of this show. Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit. Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby. The brilliant idiots podcast. Yep, Salamine the God. Andrews show. We are a brilliant idiot podcast back with another week of brilliant idiotness.

Uh, Heddy. What's up, baby? How was your weekend? How was your week? How you feeling? Bro, I've been having trouble breathing, man. What? I think anxiety is playing tricks on me.

Either that of COVID's back? COVID might be back, bro. What you mean? Like, you even have a real respiratory issue? That got to affect you, especially, you know, being the thing on stage. I think it's stress. But you're stressed about you selling out fucking stadiums? Yeah, you're right.

I shouldn't be stressed. Marriage? No, marriage is great. What is it? I don't know, man. I don't know, but I wanted to talk to you about it because you have these, you know, so much experience with this. Have you ever had that where, like, anxiety made it, like, feel as if you, it was, like, hard for you to get a full breath. Hell yeah.

The whole whatever day anxiety is. Yeah. like you're having a heart attack. You got to take a deep breath. Bro, I felt like pressure on my chest yesterday. Knees weak on spaghetti? On spaghetti. It's bombing on a sweater. What was you doing in that moment?

Um, I don't, nothing. Your therapists will tell you to recognize your environment are... Box breathe. What do you do that? What's box breathing? Uh, go down on your wife and, uh... You're laughing, but that's true, though. When you get anxiety, no.

The first thing, at least for me, I want to do something for somebody. You know what I mean? A lot of times that makes me feel better. People please. Yeah, which is something that I've been, I've always struggled with people pleasing. But I just feel like I want to do something good for somebody that makes me feel good in that moment. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so what do you do when you feel that, like, struggle for breath?

And I know it's just my brain playing tricks on me. Yeah. But, like, it's so weird. You're inhaling, but it doesn't get to that 100% mark. That's the only way I can describe it. Yeah. I have an affirmation. I have one affirmation that I've been saying my whole life since I was a kid before I even knew I was dealing with anxiety and shit like that.

So I would say, I love Jehovah God and His Son Jesus Christ. I'd say that three times and I'd say fuck Satan three times. Then as I got older and actually started doing real meditation, I say my actual mantra. So that's what I do in those moments. I actually say my mantra. And it brings me back to center. Absolutely. That's cool.

You should try the Huberman breathing techniques. Yeah Two Inhales And then a hold And then an Xx You probably only need one Two

You probably only have to do it once My nose is too big Because there's this Maybe seal box breathing technique Where you do Inhale for four seconds Right And I'd be like

Okay And I go And one second We'll be done See what I'm saying But I had no more Air To go in for the rest of the

Four seconds I was like God maybe I do have a big nose I can't even do Do the box breathing. Now my anxiety is even worse because they never developed a breathing technique for people with nostrils as big as mine.

But you know, it's so crazy. I'm asking you. Maybe that's why you also had it, that bunky nose or whatever. That boonky nose. What I was going to ask you, I asked you, but what is the reason? But there is no reason. That's why it's anxiety. Yes. There is no fucking reason. Yeah, I think it's just a bunch of different things

from all different angles. But I've never had it to the point where I felt like the breathing was restricted and I can see how that would just further induce the anxiety. Yeah. Sometimes, sometimes slight cases, not slight cases, impotis syndrome can make you feel like that, which I've actively been fighting against because we deserve it.

Yeah, we deserve. We deserve it, man. We deserve it. And you got to tell yourself that sometime. I am worthy. I deserve it. I am him. I am him.

I am him. Yeah. That's the truth, though. Like, sometimes you got to tell yourself that because you'll, man, I don't. know about you, but sometimes I just be like, man, life is trippy. Life is trippy. And sometimes life can be so trippy that you'd be like,

is this real? And you'd be like, yeah. Yeah. It's real. I have an idea of thinking of what it might be, but I have to tell you off the pocket. Okay. Okay. But, uh... The haircut, the looks you get whenever you get a fresh, fresh shaving of the sides. But I got, I had a funny joke about this. But I can't

talk about it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, anyway. Where do we begin? Um, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me. me, what's going on? Wait a minute. No, there's been a lot of things that have happened this week. And there's been things that I've been excited to talk to about in the news. The first thing that came to my mind when I walked in is like, yo, Hollywood really might be in trouble.

Oh, that was it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Hollywood. Oh, no, and Chris, we found out Chris's Lyme's was an experiment from the United States government. You're a mutant, Chris? No, he's a lineman. He's lineman. You're a lime man, Chris?

Lime Marine. Literally, the Lyme's disease was. created on Plum Island, which is right across the water from Lyme, Connecticut. And I think it was created as a bio weapon originally to like take down cattle or whatever. Never knew that. In Russia. So America made Lyme disease. And fucking Russian, yo. The Russians are always behind some shit. No, no, we did.

Oh, we did. Oh, we did down Russia during the Cold War. Oh, got you, got you. Yeah. And then what Russia gave us lemme? Hey, hey, hey, just another disease that the United States government has created. Huh? ancient history of Lyme disease in North America revealed with bacterial what's that gnomes? Yeah, I don't even like looking at genomes.

Genomes. Nah, it's some bullshit. You still got it, Chris? Chris, say where it was made. Made in Plum Island, off the coast of Long Island directly across the Long Island Sound from Lyme, Connecticut. Yep.

That's why it's called Lyme disease. That's why it's called Lyme disease. Holy shit. Keep talking that shit, though. Keep talking that shit. I mean, look. Just get the episode demonetized, You're off the chump.

Talking that shit. U.S. bio weapons. U.S. bio weapons. Say what it is, bro. Well, listen. What do you mean? They created a lab

for a bioweapon, right? For animals. And they named it after the city. Right? Well, they named it after Lyme, Connecticut because in the late 70s, mid-70s children. I'm just saying, is there a lab in Wuhan? I'm just saying, is there a lab in Wuhan that studies coronaviruses?

Is that also a thing? So, nope. Could the same thing have happened twice in history? So no idea is original? new under the sun? Nothing new under the sun. Wow! I mean, the land of the rising southern is Japan, but it's not a lot of the way. It's not a lot more stuff. We're cooking over here. Do you know what I'm saying? We're cooking.

Damn, Chris. He can't get away. He got both viruses. Yo, Chris is the only one. He's the only, What if, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What if he's, he's the daywalker? What if Chris is the daywalker, bro? What if Chris is the fucking U.S. government is trying to be trying to take Chris out for decades? Oh my God. If his mind disease ain't working, synodic coronavirus, damn.

What's the next, Chris? What's next? What's on the docket? What's on the menu? What they're saying? He's serving. Come on, Chris. And does it come with a fortune cookie?

Bouchy cookie? Oh, shit. Chris is there. Oh, shit. Yeah, we got Chris on the dark side. Chris is on the dark side, ladies and gentlemen. It's officially happened. The reason on this podcast, the logic, the brilliance has been stripped away.

He's a victim. Why is about you getting to blame now, Chris? Why? I don't think you can. Thought you open a lab. No, he didn't. You can't pin the lime on them. You might be able to pin the lime, not lime, not lime.

The lemon, definitely. But definitely the lemon. Well, this is, this is what you could say. Probably bird flu. That was probably him. Yo, real talk, it was probably him. That was. E. coli.

If I was the city, a country that that shit came out of, I would push back on them naming it after us, yo. Right, though? Why would you want that? Like, nobody's going to get a home in line. Yeah, from Wuhan. I'm like, don't, you can't. call it the Wuhan.

Maybe you just bought your retirement property of Wuhan. You know what I'm saying? If I'm Lyme, Connecticut, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I don't even want to drive through Lyme Connecticut now. Well, that's one of the theories why it might be true. Because listen, think about who Lyme disease what might be.

What might be? That it could have resulted. Is Lyme disease? Is Lyme disease not affect Jews and Chinese? Chinese. I'm here to say that it does. Yeah, you're both. Right. Yeah.

My kids are good on, uh, COVID. but we're susceptible to Lyme. But think about it. Who does Lyme historically has it affected them? I have no idea. Tell us. Wealthy, white people along throughout Connecticut, the Hamptons, wealthy places where traditionally those are the type of people.

If there's a medical emergency, what happens? The government gets involved. They correct it. They fix it. They come up with cures. So it's curious to me that if you look at this is a disease that is traditionally affected very influential wealthy people in America, nothing's gotten done. And why do you think that is?

Well, the argument would be because the government doesn't want you to look too closely on where it originated. Ooh. So is it a bio weapon to take out the 1%? What are you saying? I thought it was a, someone told me it was a bio weapon to take out like the cattle population in Russia. It was created to destabilize, in theory. We don't know what happened. But the theory would be it was created to destabilize the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union enemy. You introduce something into their population or their livestock population. which destabilizes the country, either intentionally or accidentally gets out of this testing facility in the Long Island Sound, makes it way to the mainland, Lyme, Connecticut, and then spreads from there.

They've always said that about Texas, too. They've always said that the next pandemic is going to come out of one of those meat factories in Texas. Meat factories. For the cow factories, whatever the fuck. What do they, you know, a butcher?

Butchery, there you go. Meat markets and farming. Meat markets. Yeah, I was about to say, I said meat markets. but whatever in Texas. Meat factory in Texas, bro. Everything bigger in Texas. Salma, I moved to Austin.

Did you see Salma on National Bikini Day? No. Oh, my God. Samaheat. Oh, my God. You have the bikini on? Oh, my God. Pull it up, Alex.

It might be one. Yeah. Now, while you go get that, can you tell me why you think it's over for Hollywood? S-E-L-M-A. H-A-Y-Y. S-E-L-M-A-A-E-S. Selma Hayek was funny as hell. Selma Hayek was marching with Martin.

Martin was distracted. Oh, Selba. God. Maybe that's why he kept marching. He goes, no, I'm telling you, they up there. Oh, that sound... Oh, that was... I didn't see that.

National Virginia Day. Yep. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. of that one right there. That's a 50-plus-year-old women. Nah, Samma got it. She's been-hatted, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, she got it. That coquito don't spoil, boy. No, it don't. No, it don't. Samma got it. Yeah, there's a new expectation for 50-year-old women, ladies. I just want to let

y'all know. Man, new expectation. Not even just 50-old ladies. Us too, man. Like, yo, guys are aging very well now. We always did. Nah, not, guys. I saw Samson, son, bro. You saw it all in the family. Archie Bunker was 37 What He was Archie Bunker There's no that

Archie Bunker Wow Samma Wow I mean that's 50 something Wow Go ahead Sama Do your thing

Do your thug Thistle Go ahead Salma So you can tell Samma works out You know what I'm saying I'm sure she eats right

You know And I mean And she got access And resources The things that we don't have Don't don't do that Why should I hate She got access to resources, but she also access to

chicken of rice. Sure. She got access to that Mexican diet that you all have access to. She's defying physics. I'm looking at that picture. That's a well, she's in shape. Like, she can tell she works out. Yeah, man.

Yes, bro. Yes. But you know how many key things she got to go to? You know how much or chata she got to drink? There's so many things that she got to go through. That's what I'm saying. The average person does not. Like, look at the waste.

Like the weight of waste. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. Wow. Also, oh my God. Yeah.

Yes, I'm a one of them. Anyway, tell me why you think it's over for Hollywood. Because they look great. Hollywood looked fantastic. Hollywood look amazing. I'm a one already. I think that I think Hollywood's in trouble because there's been a lot of

smoke and mirrors in regard to the screaming services. I think that the reason a lot of these streaming services, you know, don't. Well, first of all, let's take a step back. When it comes to the actors and the writers, the actors and the writers,

they want a piece of the residuals when it comes to screaming, right? But there are none. There are none because, number one, there's only like two screaming services that are actually in the black, and that's Hulu and Netflix. But also...

I don't even think Netflix is making it. No, Netflix is. It is. Netflix is in the black. Netflix is in the black. Netflix is at Hulu. Everybody else is. Someone looked that up. I don't think Netflix is making them.

They're like the only two. I just read about this. But in this, It's not like they're making profit over profit. They're just in the black. But the reason that I feel that's never going to happen as far as them getting a piece of the residuals of the screams is because if these screaming services ever really opened up the books and were really transparent, Wall Street will be like, what the fuck is going on here? Now, explain. Because it's not real profit being made.

Like, we know a lot of these networks, they get more subscribers, which causes the stop shares to go up. But that don't mean it's actual money coming in. And when you say Wall Street, you mean investors. Yeah. So like the average investor, if they found out that every streaming service is losing money. I don't think Netflix is making money. I think Disney makes money. No, they're not.

You know, Disney's been so, you're not much secret invasion costs. No, no, not Disney Plus. Disney de brand. Oh, yeah, I'm just talking about the streaming. Yeah, but the streaming, Disney Plus isn't its own stock. Disney Plus is part of the Disney stock. Yes. So if you're investing in Disney and it's still profit.

you'll be good. Whereas Netflix is its own stock. Yeah. Hulu is part of the Disney stock. So Netflix is by itself. And if Netflix is itself is not what is called in the black, in the black means a profitable business, right? If Netflix is losing money in the hopes to continue to eat up market share, which is what Uber does, which is so what some of these tech platforms do,

they just go, we're going to keep spending money and burning money in hopes that we'll eat up enough market share that then will be bought out or will be profitable online. For example, Amazon, I don't think even is profitable. I think they take all their profits and reinvesting. Amazon might not even be in the screaming business this time next year. Amazon. Why do they have to continue to do original programming when it comes to TV and films? That's not even their primary source of income. Well, I think that's what allows them. Sell fucking toilet paper. I think that's what allows them to be doing this, right? They can compete so well because they don't have to make money on their streaming platform.

I can't waste money either. I can't keep dumping money into the streaming platform doing all this original programming and not getting no ROI. They waste money. What the ROI is culture. I think Amazon and Apple would be out of the streamings business. I think before Apple gets out, it would buy Netflix. That's the other thing.

Paramount Plus. Yeah. I don't think, I don't know. Yeah, I think Paramount Plus is an easier property. Apple is the most successful company in the history of the world. Maybe Disney. maybe Disney buys what? Maybe Apple buy Disney Plus?

No. Maybe? No, no, because I think that... That's been one of the rumors. Hmm, I don't think that Disney. I think Apple could potentially buy Netflix, but I don't know if Netflix has enough intellectual property that's valuable nor for it to happen.

They got all intellectual property. Netflix is the only people that are still cooking right now. Netflix is over in Korea shooting movies right now. They're doing TV shows and shit right now. Like the strike is happening here in America. No, but I'm saying... Netflix still. cooking overseas.

I'm talking about intellectual property, meaning like, so what Amazon have is I'm pretty sure Amazon bought MGM. So they have their whole back catalog

from movies. So they have the ability to remake any of those old movies, right, which is a very popular thing. So they have so much IP. Not only do they have

the old IP in terms of the movies, every time those movies get licensed abroad, every time those movies get licensed by a Netflix. Netflix goes, I want to re-up on

a backdrop or whatever the fuck thing is. And they go, okay, you got to pay us a fee, and this happens. globally all right now. But Netflix got that too, though.

The Netflix got a lot of old IP. Like, people never, you never stop watching shows on Netflix. You're just always finding new shit. True, but they had, so they had to license all those old shows. Like, they had to license Friends. They had to license Seinfeld. And now what's happening? They got their own shit, though, like Orange is, new black, house and car.

Like, Netflix got a lot of squid game. Yeah, but you can't really compare those to, like, friends or like Seinfeld or like other leg. Just of the time. Yeah, yeah. Their goal is to be able to build that up, but it takes years. Yeah. And they've had a few incredibly huge success. They have had the stranger things, et cetera.

So hopefully they eventually continue to build those things up. But they don't yet have a show that you just turn on and it's in the background. And it's just making syndication rights, like a sign photo of a friend. They have some great reality shit that's really successful, like selling sunset. You just throw that on the background. The difference with Netflix, though, is Netflix is literally worldwide. And Netflix isn't necessarily a screamer anymore. Like, you go, you can go be anywhere.

Netflix is on remote controls. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And like Netflix is in hotel rooms. They were first. They did a great job. There's no question. Not only were they first, they fucked the game up.

They fucked the game up so much that they made everybody run to say, we need to be in the screaming business. I don't think that was ever a sustainable model. I think there was supposed to be a Netflix, and then there was still supposed to be cable television. But I think cable TV jumped out the window and was like, you know what, we need to be in the screaming business too. I think the game was really only designed to have two streaming services.

Netflix and Disney. Everything gravitates towards. words convenience. And cable television just wasn't convenient enough anymore. So this is just with the internet, it's just with Uber, it's just with everything, right? It's just the more convenient

version at the same price. We say that until some dope shit come. What was your favorite show? On what? On HBO that you just loved. It was convenient. I just watched it whenever I wanted. On the Dragons or what? No, the one you used to, like, based

off a video game or something. Last of us. The zombie show. Last of us. Last of us. And that's the music going on with every Sunday. Yeah, but I could watch it whenever I would watch it on demand. Yeah, yeah.

You would watch it. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay. That's the convenient thing. I do agree with you 100%. And this is what Apple's doing, which I think is brilliant. They're releasing shit weekly now. They're like, we're not going to let you burn through this content in one fucking weekend

and then the show's done and we've got to keep on making more sit to keep you happy. I said that last year. If your point with cable is stagger the shows. out, you're a thousand percent right. And the subscribers. Like when people pay for cable television, like put it like this. Cable television is a model that at least you know how much, you

pretty much know how much you're going to make. Right? The screaming business to me is kind of like a Ponzi scheme in a way. Talk to me. What? Because it's like, okay, I launch a screamer. I launched a screamer. The screamer comes out. And in my mind, I'm like, well, how much could

this necessarily make? Right? But you don't necessarily know what those subscribers will equate to. Well, no, you know how much you're going to spend on content, right? But you don't know how much they're going to make. You don't know how much you're going to make. You don't know how much you're going to make once they're going to subscribe. Once they subscribe.

Once they subscribe. Exactly. But that's the hope with any business, right? You're just like, I got to start the business. If I open a coffee shop, I hope that a lot of people come by coffee. You hope? But it's a lot of hope and screaming. That's all I'm saying.

It is a lot of hope. But I will say-table was more, was more of a tried and true model that they kind of blew up. Like, why did they, my point is why did they blow it up? It was a tried and true model that showed it had worked for years. It wasn't convenient enough and people stopped watching and then they gravitated toward Netflix and YouTube, which were just more convenient. You could watch things at your time. I'm with you, but I think they jump too fast. I really do.

Why do you say this? I think Netflix made them jump too fast. I think people saw what Netflix was doing. It was like, we need to be doing what they're doing. They wanted to hold on to cable for as long as they possibly could, and they had contracts in place to hold them there. The problem was nobody was watching the shows. The ratings in our lifetime shows that would make 5 million, 10 million viewers drop to 1 million or less. But just give it a minute.

All I'm saying is if they would have just gave it a beat instead of everybody just running to start the screaming wars. If you give it a beat, you let Netflix get even further ahead. So what? Sometimes. Listen, I'd rather lose market share than Netflix than everybody else. Because right now there's nobody winning except for Netflix. Even right now in 2023, none of the streaming services are in the black. except for Netflix and Hulman.

Not awful. Did we find out of Netflix? Look it off. It is. It's profitable. It's profitable, but their overall profits, and I'm seeing different numbers, have declined since last year. Yeah, because they lost why Wall Street's upset.

They're still making billions. It's just moving in the wrong direction. And they lost a bunch of subscribers last year, but I'm telling you, the only reason that is, is literally because I feel like everybody just jumped too fast, trying to follow Netflix's model. If everybody would have just waited a beat to your point And the point I've been saying, HBO, every week you put out

A dope-ass show like Euphoria. Motherfuckers is tuning in. That shit you were just talking about that's based off the video game. Every week people are tuning in. I only got to do three or four of those a year. People like Netflix got to constantly put out product. I think what you're trying to say is that

it's not that we should have kept cable. You still want to be able to watch your show whenever on demand. I'm with that. So in other words. I'll give me both. So, yeah, what I would say is have a streamer just have shows come out 10 o'clock on Sunday, which is what cable did. There's no advantage to just cable.

There's no advantage of just running television all the time that nobody's watching and then having your advertisers bail and then having no ads up and then not knowing what to do. But they don't have ads on cable on HBO. On cable they do. On cable television? What's going on right now? They don't know by HBO. Yeah, they didn't have ads on any feel.

Premium channels. You might as well have it streaming because it's the same, I've never seen a commercial, my whole life. But a premium channel like HBO, Showtime Cinemax. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what I'm talking about those networks. I'm not talking about, like, fucking regular cable TV.

I'm talking about like the premium guys. Yeah, like, I think the premium guys going to streaming just made their content more convenient. So, like, if HBO, do I want to watch what HBO tells me to watch on a Saturday night? if I'm just home for a movie, or do I want to look through their entire catalog and then pick the movie or TV show I want to watch? That's more convenient to me. That's always going to win.

Give me both. Give me both. If there's no stream... I mean, they're doing that now, really. Like, say if HBO didn't have a streaming service, half the people wouldn't watch Game of Thrones. Nobody's getting a cable channel, I mean, a cable package, just to be able to watch HBO.

That's not. I don't know if that's true. We always used to... Our generation does not have cable. We always used to get cable packages. Yeah, but I'm telling you. Also, to your point, it's still something about appointment TV. Not only me wrong, you're going to go back and watch it on the

service, but when everybody's on a Sunday at 10 o'clock, tweeting at the same time, there's no experience like that. I just think you should have vote is what I'm saying. I'm letting you know there's no show that's that good that people are going to buy a cable service, subscription service, that cable, get a box in their television. I disagree with. Because you can even see it when, and you can see it with stars.

I think what, you can see it with power. No, no, no. But they're just, you can look it up. It shows when power is not in season. You say, talk shit about this all the time. When power is not in season, stars need the subscribers. But they're also digital subscribers. Yeah.

Do the app. There's just a miscommunication here. What you're saying is you believe in the streaming model. Yes. You just think that shows should be released weekly because it's a more, it's a better, for the network side, it's a better return on investment.

Your show lasts for eight weeks or 12 weeks, one show that you pay for lasts for 12 weeks instead of lasting for one weekend and then you need to get them new content later. I think that's, we're all in the same thing. And I'm also saying I feel like everybody jumped out the window too fast trying to chase Netflix and everybody, sometimes you got to let the person go over the hill first.

And let them take the bullets and the arrows, then figure out how to come over the hill without taking so many bullets, so many arrows. Okay, now we're on the same page. I think you saying, like, we should have go back to cable through everybody off. I think what you're saying is going binge culture is jumping. Yes. Binge culture.

And listen, Netflix was smart, right? You, in order to catch fishing to stir up waters, what is the- Start water to catch fish? Okay. How do you stir up waters? How do you create chaos in an industry that's already established? You give people the whole season right away. Holy shit.

Now, what are the advantages of that? If the show is not as good, I will stick around to watch it because I have the next episode ready to go. If the show is not as good in the traditional weekly model and episode three, it's kind of, eh, I'm not coming back Sunday. I'm not building my whole Sunday around this fucking show schedule. If it's bingeworthy, what I've always said about a lot of the Netflix shows, they're not as good because they don't need to be

because all you need to do is leave me on a cliffhanger. I'm tuning in to that next episode that's going to come right up. So they stirred up the water to cast fish. All the other networks came in and tried to compete. And now they're realizing the smart ones like HBO, small ones like Apple are realizing, oh shit, we don't need to give these motherfuckers a new show

the whole season immediately. No. We could give them a new show every week as long as that show is fire. And could you produce less content? And low key, if I'm them, I go, I would assess the show, and I'd go, this show is not that good.

Lendom binge it. And if the show is fire, you go, stretch it out week by week. Listen, if I only got to do three to four shows a week and you got to do 27, 28 a year, you know what I mean? And I think we all forget where everybody was at

before they had their own streaming platform. They were on Netflix. They had their content on Netflix. They were doing licensing deals. Think about this. Companies like Disney, were getting paid from Netflix

because Netflix was doing licensing deals with these companies they all said now fuck that let's take our content off start our own platform worked for some

didn't work for a lot out of all of these streaming networks you mean telling me only two of them are making a profit and Hulu got the best model because Hulu got like

four or five different channels but no one knows what Hulu is the problem with Hulu is nobody knows what the fuck it is we're saying that but they're in the black I don't know why they run ads

yeah they run ads I just don't know what they are. Like, they got ABC on Hulu, FX is on Hulu. It's like cable, but also streaming, but also got their own things. Like, I was in a movie on Hulu. So it's like they also got movies.

Like, Hulu is so, The White Men Can't Jump. Oh, yeah, yeah, I watched it. So it's like there's so many different things that are happening on Hulu that it's just confusing. And I think they have a brand issue. If it works, it works. I can't criticize if they're doing well.

I just think that people don't really know what Hulu is. You know what I'm saying? Do I watch cable in Hulu? Do I watch its own show? Like, what is it? I watch it all. I do.

I watch it all. I just think Hollywood's in real trouble this time because I don't see how the writers and actors win this one because I don't see how it be who's the Hollywood studios to meet any of their demands. Because I think when it comes to the writers, you're going to have a couple people who crossed the picket line. And like I said last week, whatever week I said,

it's going to be like a showrunner, a headwriter, and then AI. at least for a while. Not saying that's going to be the end-all be-all, but at least for a couple of years, they're going to at least try that shit. And when it comes to the actors, I just don't see them ever being transparent

with the actors as far as how much these shows are really screaming, because to be transparent with the actors, you've got to be transparent with Wall Street. And they don't want to be transparent with Wall Street. So in order for the actors and the writers to calculate a comparative, comparable syndication value, right?

It used to be, there'd be a show that's really popular, like a Seinfeld or a Ray Romano show, right? And then they would sell that show in syndication once it made 110 episodes. That means you could sell it around the world. You would see it coming on five days a week on, like, Channel 11 or wherever the fuck channel it is where you grew up. I think where we grew up there'd be like Channel 11, right?

And they would just play the reruns of all the network channels. All the network channels. They'd have Beverly Hills, 902, and they just play them all day. And you make so much money on that syndication rights. Now with streaming, the streaming network owns it in perpetuity. So what they've been doing is paying up front syndication fee. So they go, yo, Will Smith, we want your movie.

Here's $20 million. That includes your syndication fee. So I think the writers and the actors are trying to go, let's find a realistic syndication fee. And let's find a realistic version of how much this show is worth based on how many people stream it. music did it with streaming. They have a per-stream fee that the artist gets.

One difference with that. Well, real quick, just to finish out the point. So with syndication, like to what you were saying, the streaming platforms haven't been forthright about how many streams these shows are actually getting. They say, number one, most streams show on Netflix, or number one most streams. But not giving up the exact numbers.

But they're not given the numbers. So without the numbers, you can't calculate the value of the show, especially the value show to the network. And without the value of the show to the network, you can't calculate what your worth as a writer or what you're worth as an actor. That's right. And to what you were saying,

since so many of these networks are dependent on the stock valuation. And not actual profit. And not the actual profit. They don't want to say how few people are actually watching the show or how many people. Wall Street will either tank

or they'll find out that the entire network is only watching one show, i.e. Stranger Things. And then every actor on Stranger Things is going back up the truck, motherfucker. If nobody watching nothing but Stranger Things, we're keeping your fucking streaming service alive. We need the bread. Yeah.

Everybody keeps, you know, trying to talk about the music industry and the TV film industry. Yeah, what do you see as a difference? Totally different because title, Apple, Spotify, they're not paying to make the albums. You know what I'm saying? Like the Netflix is and the Disney's and all that. That's a great point.

Like they did. It's totally different. Like Netflix title and Apple is damn it. All profit. Like all they got to do is make a proper split with the labels, not even the artists, just the labels. And keep it moving.

So it's almost like, yo, actors, writers, make your own shit. Make your own shit. Boom. And then you will accept.

And you know what? That does happen. And you know what? That's the play. But those people who do sell, accept the fee. And they're good with it. Yeah.

That's the play. If, and you can do it two ways, right? You might shoot some shit for $3, $4 million, sell it to Netflix or Disney for $20,000,000. There you go. All you might say, I'm going to sell it. I want to get this percentage of it. You know what I mean?

Well, what percentage? Let me, let me get my production money back. But what percentage? Because you're not making any, there's no money to be made. You're servicing the streamer. The streamer gets their monthly revenue. You might have to sign an NDA?

Might have to sign an NDA and be like, look, all right? We do a deal. You shot this for how much? $5, $10 million. Okay, you'll get your production money back. Yes, right. But you got to sign the NDA. We'll let you.

We'll be honest with you about what the numbers are. They'll never do it. That's too risky. That's what I'm saying. That's why I think Hollywood might be kind of fucked in a lot of ways. I saw the dude that plays Incredible Hulk. Mark Ruffalo, he said this yesterday. He was like, yo, he started encouraging people to go do independent films.

I think that might be the ways. Well, look out for Tooby. I have. Let's go. Y'all been laughing at Tooby. Look out for Toobie. Let's go. Toby might be the guy or the girl, whatever the fuck.

My understanding is they can't work on independent projects. Like, they can't work on a project that if they're going to sell it. Yeah. So it's like, how can they do that? Here's a thing. Here's a thing. And I'm sagging at WGA. And I'm just simply saying, I don't know.

I don't know what it is in. I saw it in a variety there like, anybody who sag at WGA, the things that you have to boycott are alive. appearances and I said, I'm crossing the picket line. Yo, show, that makes me no sense. By the way, by the way, pull that up, Alex. I'm going on stage, motherfucker. Pull that up.

Because nothing on that list makes sense to me. Y'all don't make my living. I think I go. I got that right here. That makes no. Why wouldn't you want the actors to make money while the strike is going on? Like, that makes zero sense to me. They just, no, they don't want the films to make money.

But I'm not promoting the films when I'm doing appearances. They assume that you are doing live. Look at this shit. from other films tours personal appearances interviews conventions fan expos festivals for your consideration events panels premier screening award shows understand that junkets podcast appearances social media studio showcases how am i supposed to make any extra income what if i'm an actor who hosts the podcast about food i can't do my fucking podcast about food? What if I'm just getting paid because I'm neat? Forget the show I'm doing in the character

I'm playing. I'm getting paid because I'm whoever. I can't go make my money. Like you really think people want to see Ru as in diet. Yeah, this should be. I don't know, man. No, no, no, no. I think that I think that one variety's wrong. I heard a bunch of people respond to that and they're like, variety continues to not know what the fuck they're talking about. Oh, so is that none of that's true? I think it's like somewhat true, somewhat not true. There's nothing wrong with us podcasting. There's nothing wrong with me going on tour. I think some of that has to do with promoting current projects or past projects.

You've had a lot of actors and actions that was on Breakfast Club that was scheduled to be on breakfast club the next two weeks. All of them had to catch. Because they can't promote their films. That's why. But we have a podcast that is not based on SAG after. It's about nothing. It's just if you're working on a project, that's a SAG. That's a SAG project.

you can't do it. Exactly. I don't know how this ends, man. I don't like it. I think... Well, I think what's really interesting is I think that the music... Sorry, sorry,

the film industry and the TV industry, much like the stand-up comedy industry. Hmm. How do I say this? For years, doing stand-up specials and, like, filming these, like, grandiose things, right? Like, and don't get me wrong,

there are certain people where they should be that big. Like, a fucking Kevin Hart should have that kind of spectrum. Absolutely. But for newer comics, they were spending hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars to do these specials for comics. People didn't even know who they were yet. And what we kind of figured out is we could film our own specials and get even more people to see it by placing it on YouTube, a place where people could see it. So we kind of caused this disruption in this, you know, traditional industry by filming stand-up comedy specials for a fraction of the price and focusing really on what people wanted, which was great comedy.

not this insane production value. And then when you do eventually get to the upper echelon of comedy, yeah, you should go do that. But we disrupted the industry in that way. I think, and I've been trying to figure out, as I've been doing these films, what the next level disruption for the film industry is. The film industry is, don't get me wrong,

for a Mission Impossible for Avatar, for all these big fucking films, you need these huge scale budgets, et cetera. Emission impossible, they even do well. But regardless, what I'm saying is you need them for an indie film, I think there's a version of making, people are saying, yeah, an indie film is for $5 million.

I'm like, there is a version of a film that is far cheaper, and we can find a way to do it for far cheaper. And then when you do a film for way cheaper, you can put it in a place where more people will see it, right? And then when more people see it, you can find out ways to monetize it in the same way that we did, you know, with stand-up. I think direct-the-consumer is always going to be a great model

if the consumer gives a fuck about you to want to direct with you. y'all know what the fuck I just met yep I agree and I think that storytelling is going to be at a premium I think if you have a great story you can shoot it for much cheaper and you can make that film for a fraction of the cost and then put it in a place where people can consume it

and then have way more success and I think that restructures the film industry we just haven't seen people do that yet yeah yeah because this is a little bit harder to do only because a film does take a lot more hands to make and to be able to compensate people in a way that they can have a yearly salary they can sustain themselves on, working project by project is just harder. That's why you need the-

Two things, though, two things. I can put out my comedy for free and then monetize the road. Actors don't have that. They have to make their money off of films. So you do have to generate wealth. But if you can, one, condense shooting schedules so that actors can do potentially more projects, Like you can film, right now it took two months to film Oppenheimer. That's Oppenheimer.

You're telling me you can't film an indie, low budget, really creatively put together project with great storytelling and an amazing story. You can't do that in half the time as Oppenheimer? You know what you're going to need for that? You're going to need the people behind the scenes to have the same enthusiasm. Dedication. Dedication. Because they're going to be having to take some losses, right?

And you may not want to when you're behind the camera. because that's a whole, that work is way more intensive, right? That's, and what benefit is it for them? Because if I was, these people that are on, that are striking right now, because the people behind the scenes, I'd be sitting around calling my folks like, oh, we should be putting together production crews. That's a little. Really?

Right now you can't do anything. Can't write. You can't write. Writers can't write. But even if you do like some, even if you do like some, you form your own production crew, you can't even go shoot some shit. Nope. Damn, they can't.

If they're under the union, you can't do. Fuck, why you tell me that? They want to act like I didn't know that. My boy. You see the numbers for secret invasion? What secret invasion? I didn't see them, but secret invasion is fucking phenomenal. Great.

What is secret invasion? But nobody's watching it. On Marvel. Marvel. Based off of Samuel Jackson's character. Nick Fury, but, Alex, you know nobody's watching. I didn't even know it was out. I didn't know that.

Six episodes. How much you think six episodes did that shit cost? I think it was like 500,000 or something like that? 500,000? I thought. That's what I thought the budget was. $277 million for six episodes. Was like $500,000.

No, $500 million. Over budget. The final title came in at $211.6 million. Wow. Guardians of the Galaxy, the movie had a production budget of $250. Amman and the Wasponamania had a budget of $200 million. This is a TV show with six episodes. But keep in mind.

It's six episodes. How long is it each episode? A hour. No, like 40 minutes. So we're talking about six episodes of TV. So that's between like four and six hours. Let's say it's about five hours. Two movies.

So it's two movies. So they basically, they made two Marvel movies. I'm with you, but it's still TV. Oh, I agree. It's loaded.

They still got to treat it like TV. Bob Iger came in and he's chopping everything. Oh, he's fucking shit up right now. But if they treat it like TV, the production value isn't going to be as good and then we won't like it. I don't think we need production value as much we need story. With Marvel with shit that is, even with Marvel.

You need good production. I'll be honest to you. I think it's story. And I think that one of the things that to be honest, one of the things that Guardians of the Galaxy shows, like there are moments in Guardians of the Galaxy where you're like, this is silly and weird and that makes no sense. Like large swaths of the scenes,

right? Not of that doesn't make any sense. You're like, did they put any money in this? It doesn't matter because the story is so compelling that we're going to lock in and just believe this reality. I agree. you can't have a whole series just. Well, Bobbiger said, Bob Tiger said,

in Marvel you need some. Bob Bigger said he feel like Disney TV has done too much. Oh, no, Kevin Feigey said. There's one of them said this. They feel like they've done too much with the TV stuff, and that's why everybody has fatigue across the board. Because Guantanamania didn't even fucking do what he was supposed to do at the box office.

I don't even know what it is. Ant Man. I think a lot of people after Endgame kind of checked out. Can I, yeah, can I be honest? Okay, here's the reality of the matter. end game finished it not no

it just just just take this in end game end game was the Super Bowl it was the World Series it was the NBA finals tough fact to follow you

Summer League is what's going on right now and the diehard fans of basketball are watching Summer League they're seeing Wembe Nyama they're seeing scoop they're seeing all these guys but the casuals could give a

flying fuck what's happening in Summer League right now. They're spending Super Bowl money in the Summer League. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? No what I'm saying? We are out here. We do our best. We do our best.

You know what I mean? We do our best. Listen. So they're doing Super Bowl money for Summer League. But if they adjust it to Summer League money, then they can be okay. Now here's the problem they're going to have. They have to build up a new reason to create 15 years from now,

another version of Avengers, which they're currently doing. Which they're currently doing. But we dealt with 50 years or 70 years or whatever the fuck it was of comic books that built to end game. It wasn't a 15 year run. It was 70 years of X-Men.

It was 70 years of Iron Men. It was 70 years. Like, we knew these characters as if they were like the Statue of Liberty. They were like bastions of American culture and it built up to this final fucking moment. Endgame was a world war literally. Yeah, man.

And now we need a break. You can't have another war right after a world war. It's like, yo, we settled all that. I don't think they should have did no Marvel TV shows. They can't. I mean, they got to figure something out and it might not be going back to Marvel. That's, boom, I'm about to say.

I don't think they should do, I don't think they should have did no Marvel TV shows. I think maybe this is the first. where Disney should have just invested in the Star Wars or something maybe? I don't know. Go back to that shit. The money in the Star Wars, no one watching. I don't think they should have did no Disney TV shows.

And I think the next saga we should have saw for Marvel was the mutant saga. All in film. Now is the time to roll out the mutants and all that other shit. Because now that they have Sony, well, now that they have like. Oh, Fox Sony. Let me tell you something, Charlotte. I mean, that was your fucking greatest idea. Mutants, you mean X-Men, right?

Yes. Start from the job. Yes. Starfan word up. And then take an off-brand new, like Iron Man. Iron Man was not the number one. No, not at all. Take that off-brand version.

Whatever the fuck it is. I don't care who it is. I don't care if it's beast. I don't care of whatever. You make that person the centerpiece of this new world, hover all the characters and then build towards your fucking end game. That's right. And take us on that dance for 10 fucking years.

I mean, they are doing that. But with both, with Marvel and with... Focus on one. Focus on one. I think, I mean, the only way you- That's the person who loves that shit, I'm tuned in. I love it. I'm just, from a, listen, as a fan, I love it.

But as a, from a business perspective, this shit is a fucking cluster fuck. But wait, are they starting with the mutants from- No, they just started, they started to get into the music? From Ground Zero? What's Ground Zero? Well, they can't because they were putting out X-Men movies.

It's not like X-Men coming out. We are so fine with them putting out more. You know how many Superman they put out? You know how many Spider-Man they put out? Just restart it. How many times we've seen Uncle Bend down? Well, they got to blend the world. They're doing it right now with the multiverse.

You know what I'm saying? And they introduce Earth 818 and all the mutants are clearly on Earth 818. So eventually it's going to be an incursion where both worlds crashed together. Deadpool is going to bring a lot of that together from what I saw. That shit looks phenomenal, by the way. Oh, my God. Like, because, see, Deadpool is the person that can break the fourth wall. Deadpool will probably end up saving Marvel because he can talk to the people.

He can tell us everything that we already know what's going on. Like, you see the fight team with him and Hugh Jackman? Yeah. And the 20th century Fox logo was behind him. So Deadpool's just going to go back and kill all these motherfuckers, all those old-ass-whack characters. It's just going to be, oh, it's going to be phenomenal. It's going to be phenomenal.

Old-ass-whack characters. Like all the old X-Men movies and all that shit like that. Oh, my God. He's going to go back and kill him. So the reset that you're talking about, they're going to actually show the reset via a movie. Yeah. Which is smart.

All right. I love it. But I do agree with you. Yes, it's not the smartest business model, but I think they're just looking long term. It's like also they're making a lot of money with amusement parks, the figurines, all that type of shit. Are they though?

Yeah, they do. Can I say one more thing? Are they? They make way more money. Disney still in a... Disney just, Disney had to cut like $5.5 billion. They fired mad employees from Disney Park.

That's why all those cuts at ESPN was because of Disney. Like, they're firing motherfuckers. Yeah, but that's every company. I had a bunch of letters. I don't know, man. I think, oh, that was my other reason, too. COVID fucked up a lot of shit. Like Hollywood's still recovering from COVID.

And now they just getting hit with this. This is the strike is another pandemic. There's another thing that's going on, which is like all the streamers were bloated during COVID because people never had, they didn't have anything else to do. So they just watched those. So the stock price skyrocketed.

It probably went up 30, 40, 50%, whatever it did. So it's really regressing to the mean. It's regressing like where it should be, but it looks as if these companies are all failing. So if Netflix drops 30%, it was 30% inflated. Yeah. It should come back to a normal version.

But again, we look at stocks quarterly. So it's like, oh, my God, this is our whole quarter. What can we do? You could never sustain that growth. By the way, do we need all these screaming services? Dude, we need all the channels either. No. They'll consolidate.

Eventually, it will just be one. It's going to have to. I think it's going to end up being two. I think when the smoke is clear, Netflix, Disney Plus. Yeah, but you forget people have egos. And the leader of this streamer is like, nah, I'm in the game, too. I'm going on.

I don't get what you. How much ego you got? Eventually, everybody got somebody to answer to. Everybody got a boss. I don't get who your CEO is. There's a boy. And the boy going to be like, nah, motherfucker.

We just lost a gazillion dollars. Chuck this shit to fuck down. Like, eventually, I don't give a fuck. You have all the ego in the world. If that shit ain't making dollars, it don't make sense. Yeah. And right now it ain't making no motherfucking dollars. What we got, man.

What else we got? Oh, sorry, one more thing. They need to stop with this multiverse shit. This shit sucks. It's too confusing. Let me just say it. Let me just say it. Let me just say this.

Let me just say this. Let me get it out. Let me get it out. It's the best. For the people that are really in it, like you guys, it's really exciting. The casuals, it's linking too many things that they're unaware of. So it completely ostracizes the casual viewer who just wants to tap in and be like, I know about Spider-Man.

Spider-Man multiverse is a bad example. I'm talking about the traditional Spider-Man movies. It ostracizes the cast. the casual who's like, yeah, I grew up with Spider-Man. I know he got his aunt who's kind of whatever, and then they got carnage or whatever. Kind of what? Say what?

Kind of fine? Huh, kind of fine? The new one. The new one. The new one. Shit. I'm shooting webs. Listen.

So it just completely ostracized and just confuses them. And there's an education process every time. You're like, what do you mean? The multiverse, da-da-da-da. And then you just check out. The super fans like you, it satisfies every inch of your craving. But keep in mind, when you're creating movies for the masses You gotta create it for the casuals.

You're right, but then you run into the DC problem. DC problem where they were just telling the same story over and over. Well, their stories are bad. That's the problem with DC isn't telling the same story. The same story is fine to tell. They're just bad stories. Simple and plain. DC sucks.

Yeah. DC films sucks. They do. DC stands for Dick and Cox because they suck. Because they suck. That's how bad to film you are. They have a worse batten average, but not all them suck. The dark night movies were good

That don't count those were classic You know what the Christopher Nolan shit? Yeah that wasn't part of the DC That's Christopher Nolan And why were they were great because of the story But I mean it's still good That's still part of the DC universe But it's Batman Batman's DC

Yeah but they were It's not part of the DC universe though That whole shit they tried to do it just me I'll never forgive them for introducing Justice League in a fucking email They rushed that they rushed Justice League They got introduced an email attachment You were right

You exposed that to me I didn't They rush Justice League way too fat. Like email attachment. Watch, you're going to see this dude who's going over there to do it now. What's his name? James Gunn. James Gunn.

He is nice with story. I don't trust James Gun no more. He lied to me about the Flash. They told me that the fucking Flash was the greatest superhero movie of all time. Wait, he made the Flash? No, they were trying to hype it up. Yes. So I think...

Big flop, by the way. My theory... Big flop at the box of. My theory, they were trying to hype it up. Because since he was coming to Shane, a whole regime. He's like, hey, this one does good. I can at least keep one old character from the old shit.

So let's pump this up and convince people that this one's good. But now that this one flop, they're going to have to recast the flash, and now he has to like try to build that whole storyline. But he was going to recast the flash anyway. No, no, they said if this one did good, they were going to run it back. And they protected Ezra Miller.

They tried. He can't say he didn't get a shot. He got a shot. He got a shot. He got a shot. But people was like, nah, we ain't fucking with you. We're not fucking with you. Salute the Hove, man. Let go. The book of Hove. I think any creative should go to the Brooklyn Public Library.

I don't give a fuck what you're into. I don't even care if you're a creative. Even if you're not into the arts or anything like that, if you're just a person who's looking for some inspiration, you know those American dream stories that we talk about, like somebody going from rags to riches, somebody going from just the bottom and being successful in what they chose.

to do. By the way, that can be anybody. If you don't have to be a billionaire rapper to choose to do something and be successful at it, you might want to be, you know, a custodian and you decided him will be the best custodian and you, that was your dream and you chose to be that

and now you're the greatest custodian in your town. You might have a custodial business, whatever it is. Go to that book of whole shit, man, and see it. You saw it out? I haven't seen it yet. Oh, my God. You should go show. Inspirational yourself. Oh, my God. I was saying, I saw it.

You and Weesie at the opening. Day before the opening for the VIP motherfuckers. Oh, wow. That's what it was? Yeah, you know what it was. The Taylor Go gets it go? Did you? You got the invite?

Hold on, hold on, huh. You got the invite? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on the time. You got the invite in the mail? You got the actual book? Go on the mic.

Go on the mic. Hold on. So you got the book? No, I don't have the book. I said I could have went to the opening. Nah. Not if you didn't get that book. I think you're talking about like the first day.

You're talking about Friday. Friday, but Thursday before it was open. I mean, maybe if she was with somebody. I just know if you had that, you got to have that. Wait, you're trying to say she's a plus one, dude? Hey, I'll be a plus one. Nah, nothing wrong. Weezy was a plus one.

I'm snitching. Fuck that. Yeah, she was close loves plus one. That wrong being plus one? Hey, nothing wrong being plus one. I would have loved to be a plus one. I'm just saying the invite was fired. It was the actual book.

Oh, really? Yeah. Y'all really flipped the game on me just right there. The game was we're shitting on Taylor. And then the first second I dip my toe in the goddamn water, y'all, hey, it doesn't want to be a plus one. By the way, it don't matter if it's a private event, a public event. You can go see it.

It don't matter whether you were there, Thursday, or Friday. That's just foolishness. Like, it don't matter. It doesn't matter. He has the little smirk face. That's it don't matter. Why are you on Thursday? Yeah, yeah, if it don't matter.

Because he was invited. No, no, I went Thursday because I know I probably would never go when it was open to the public. Just the way my end died, you said. No. No, just the way my head died with you. You didn't just say you got invited Charlotte. This guy's an animal. No, no.

You're right. I'm putting on my sunglasses. Yeah, this guy. I did get invited. There's not, there's not too many people that can get me to come out to do some shit like that. And that rock nation is one of those people just because like rock nation. Especially at nighttime. It was actually in the daytime.

It was a daytime. It was from like six to. I thought you know. I thought you got invited to you. You got invited to the night time. Nah, it was five to eight. Yeah, well, they arrived later though then. So.

Who? My friends arrived later. Who's your friends? You married. At the thing? She works at power. I don't know. He's talking about.

But anyway, but I'm just saying like, you know, it was a great. I'm just saying if you want some inspiration, man, go see it. Jay Z deserved. Why was it so inspiring? Just seeing somebody come to... No, because the greatest flex

that Jay-Z has, for me, is his evolution as a man. Forget the... I'm going to say forget, because you can't forget it, but otherworldly talent, fantastic entrepreneur and businessman. But I think that we take for granted the fact that

his plane did not necessarily necessarily have to land with the wheels out. Because 2016, 2017, whenever that was he was going through everything he was going through in his personal life. And we don't know which way that could have win. You know what I mean?

And how do people look at him six, seven years later, if that all fell apart? Because at the end of the day, for me, at a 45-year-old man, I measure men based on how their

house looks. now. And to see the work that he put in as a man, to be a better father, to be a better husband, to be a better friend, that's his ultimate flex to me. And I think that this library, you kind of get to see that in real time. Like if you've been following the story and paying attention through his music, of course you know it. But when you get to actually see it play out through pictures and videos and everything else, it's like, damn. And ultimately, you know, being at Thursday, there's a documentary that they show. It's like a nine-minute mini movie that they show. And it starts with his grandmother, Haddy White, who's from Beechburg, South Carolina,

and then shows her, you know, moving to New York, they're in Marcy, but then her kids start to have kids. And that's Jay's generation. And she was, you know, basically taking care of them off $20 a week. You know what I mean? And he was like, oh, wow, how do you, how do you take care of us all $20 a week? It was like, well, $20 can get you a lot back there. But to see all of that and then to watch it full circle, this man being celebrated and honored, but his grandmother is still alive and his mother is still alive. And they're there with him on that Thursday.

To me, man, I don't know what's better. Like, what else do you want? Like, what more do you want than to be celebrated and to have that in front of your family? Like, the people that you genuinely love, you got your wife there and your daughter there, your people that you came up with, like, what's better than that?

And I hold him in such high regard just because of how many people I'm watching crashing burn because they're choosing to lead with ego because they haven't done the work on themselves because they haven't healed that trauma that grief and those things that exist that can ultimately cause you to self-destrupt

if you don't go do that work. Who are you? It's no need to name names. You know what I mean? But I mean, all you got to do is pay attention, look around, you know? Just pay attention, look around, and you'll see it.

You'll see people who aren't in that space. And should be because they growled. You know what I mean? You can look and see the people who, you know, don't have the family structure, don't have the wife and everything. Because that's important, too. That's the other thing, too.

You've got to have a good woman, though. You have to have a good woman. And when you get a good woman, man, pour into that. I keep telling you all this shit. Pour into that woman. Like really pour into that woman and watch how your life just does this.

Pull into your woman. point to your family, do the work on yourself to be a better man and just watch how your life does this. And that's what I see Tov doing. And I think that's very, very, very impressive, at least to me. That's his biggest flex to me.

Do you see Braun another night when he was on stage with his wife and his two sons and his daughter? That's your greatest flex, bro. You know what I'm saying? I can't never. You can never say anything bad about that. You know? Nothing. then you turn around and tell me that you changing your journey back to 23,

now I've got to talk to you different. You know what I'm saying? Now I'm not talking to LeBron the man anymore. I'm talking to LeBron the player, okay? Wait, break that whole thing down. I miss that. I don't even know what I was just saying. What I was trying to say is that he's changed.

I was just trying to switch the subject. Oh. Yeah, I was like, man. But that was also a good metaphor is like, don't live in the past. Just, you know, keep going forward. Well, the only reason I don't think LeBron should be switching his number back to 23 is because I think 23 should be really. retired all across the league. You said what?

He said, I guess he was trying to do that for six for Bill Russell. Well, six should have been retired too. Both of them should be all right. Yes, there's some numbers that should be retired across the league, bro. Bill Russell, number six should be retired across the league. You got to stop, Alex. Generational pay. Generational. You can read? No, but I mean, you don't read basketball. Alice said, no, I can't. I'm Puerto Rican. He said, no, I can't. I don't know. I just don't believe. I just don't believe. I don't know. I just don't even retire in numbers because it's like just let somebody carve out their own thing like some

people say LeBron's better than Jordan well those people are on drugs that's true but I'm saying I don't know I don't think you can all numbers in it I don't think you can carve out I think you make it harder to continue to carve out your own legacy when people still think you're chasing Michael Jordan that's true so it's on that person to not pick a number that has that much cloud attached to it yes but at the same time. You keep retiring numbers. Now it's like, damn, who's not really, who's worth being number being retired? Because you're going to put Bill Russell, you're going to put Jordan, what about the magics? What about all the other players that are great?

I think you have to elevate the game of basketball in order to get your number of retired. I'd be a great player. I mean, that's... Bill Russell, I think elevated the game of basketball. Michael Jordan elevated the game of basketball. I think a lot of people would say that about different players. It's not too many. It's a short list. To me, it's a show list of people who actually elevated the game of basketball, who took the league to another level.

Larry Bird would be in that conversation, I think. I think what Larry and Magic did together changed basketball. What Michael Jordan did change basketball. What Steph Curry has done revolutionized the game of basketball. No, because Kobe's Michael Jordan. What about LeBron? See, like, I think a lot of people would say LeBron does. But he should have had his own number.

you should have seven you know you should have took God that's God's number yeah was a God to a king you know Michael's the God

Ron is the king he wanted to be a god you should have the God number facts that's my personal opinion all right Taylor damn damn

she's producing yeah thank you shit that's exactly what thank you Taylor let's take a break and pay some bills

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From 106 in Park? Yeah, we used to all. We used to go to church together. We used to speaking of cable television, I had cable. Leach did not, but the leash had the food. So she brought food? Yeah, it's before my wife moved up here. So Leach would bring down some food and we'd watch True Blood on Sundays or whatever the pop in HBO show was on Sundays at that time.

We would watch. It was really true blood around that time. So salute the leash, man. And you were driving into the city to do breakfast club? Driving into the city to do breakfast club. Yep. Because I moved up. I moved back here in 2000.

2010. And when I moved back in 2010, my wife and my daughter didn't move back for another year. And I moved to Prospect House. And then we all lived in Prospect House. I lived there for a few years. And Leash moved to L.A. And then we eventually started renting the house. We rented a house. I had an apartment. And we rented a house. And after I rented the house, I bought a house. But yeah, I'm proud of Leach, man. Unleashed with Love out on this July 20th. Now, let's get back to the show. Arizona Republican refers to black Americans as colored people and House floor debate. Can we hear it, Taylor?

Mr. Chairman, though, that was unbelievably inspiring. My amendment has nothing to do with whether or not colored people or black people or anybody can serve. Okay? It has nothing to do with color your skin, any of that stuff. What we want to preserve and maintain is, the fact that our military does not become a social experiment. We want the best of the best. We want to have standards that guide who's in what unit, what they do. And I'm going to tell you guys right now, the Russians, the Chinese, the Iranians, the North Koreans, they are not doing

this because they want the strongest military possible. I hope my colleagues on the other side can understand what we're doing. Thank you so much. Mr. Spend. To have the words colored people. For what purposes, gentlelady, take recognition? I'd like to be recognized to have the words colored people stricken from the record. I find it offensive and very inappropriate. Is the gentlelady asking for unanimous consent to take down the words?

I am asking for unanimous consent to take down the words of referring to me or any of my colleagues. as colored people. What's interesting is, you know, I was doing a little reading yesterday, and it was saying how colored is usually considered offensive, but it was adopted in the U.S. by emancipated slaves as a term of racial pride after the end of the American Civil War. It was rapidly replaced from the late 1960s as a self-designation by black and later by African American, although it is retained in the name of the National Association for the advancement of colored people. That's my own. Like, you know, I, you know, I have no problem when People tell me something is offensive.

My only issue is just like, well, if it's offensive and it's, you know, it's been around for 100 years. Why do we have organizations named after what we call what we say is offensive? Bro, you can say people of color. That's what I said. They got mad at me today. You don't know that there's three people of color and colored people? What is the difference? I just feel like it's better grammar.

Like, if you can't say retarded people, can you say people of retard? That's a great point. Don't y'all bleep that? I want that. We need to have this discussion, God damn it. I want to know that. If that's the, if you can say any offensive word as long as you say of before it, if that's the rule, it's going to be open season. Now, I look, people of retardation. There are people of retardation. People of retardation. Now, I did see that too. There was an article of it does sound nicer. People of retard. I read that too, the difference between colored people

and people of color. The phrase colored people peaked in books published in 1916. 70. People of color reached its apex in 2003. But the phrase people of color is not new. In fact, an act to prohibit the importation of slaves into any port are placed within the jurisdiction of the United States was signed in 1807, which applied to any Negro mulatto or person of color. So it indicates the term was well enough established to be used in the text of legislation. So to me, if you're reasoning that, you know, colored people is offensive is because it's old. I want to know. How can people of color isn't considered offensive either? I'm just confused. I just don't know. That's all I'm asking. I'm just asking questions here. I'm not sitting there trying to give any

statement. You're not saying you're right. No. We just need to know. I just want to have the conversation. That's it. And if everybody's telling me colored people is offensive and white people can't use it, then how come the NAACP hasn't changed their name? We should make them change their name. Or you should just put of before things. Like when your wife is acting up, you know what I mean? You just, that don't work. That don't work. You're being a little bit of a...

Son of a bitch. A woman of... Okay, bleep that. Just believe that. If that's the trick, just thoroughly of that, what do we say? Is that a bad word?

Yeah, it is. It's definitely a... What's the worst way to call a vagina? for black people. Stank? No, no, not the... What? What?

For any person, that's good. He's just black. Any human with a vagina. That's the worst thing you can say about it. What is the worst thing black people call a vagina? Not the smell of it, like the name for it. Of what's he's good. I mean, like...

It's not a black... We can't reduce vagina to a black thing. No, I'm saying white people say... Oh. But no, no, no, you're not calling the vagina that. You're calling the... person net. Yeah. Yeah. You're calling a person. Yeah, but in

like Great Britain. You're just like saying pussy. I guess pussy. But in Great Britain, they'll say the word, like, they'll, they'll say it. They're like, hello. Why don't you, why don't you moisten up your for me, please? Oh, so it's like a thing. It's like, that's how they talk dirty out there. Hello, lost. Why don't you, well don't you

get some suds up in your coo lips for me, please? What the fuck? Hello, loss. Hello, loss. I don't know, man. It's a bit dry on your... Maybe run some laps or something before we get to smush in loss.

You can use it in that context, right? I don't think so. Yes, in the context, he just used it. I don't think so. He's referring to the vagina as... Because he does mean vagina. You just can't call somebody yet. Yeah, you can talk about it.

Yeah. Oh, did you forget your undies? just hanging down from yo So what's more offensive to call somebody pussy or a Oh, calling someone a pussy But isn't the same thing? No, f*** is fire.

It's like alpha and pussy is beta. Like, oh, you're not going to a roller coaster, you pussy. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Punch me in my face, you B. Bam, right? Like, shit is like a positive thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You could call it shit. That means you're a boss bitch. That's boss bitch. I mean, if you wanted to be, because you can flip it if you want it to be, Let's see. Let's see. Is y'all...

Okay, what are the meaning of the vulgarism, generally referring to the female genitalia. C**t in the gang. Minor internet. That's a group. There's a group called C C2N the Gang? Hmm.

I guess. I think a C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C. But it has like a meaning that makes sense. You know? I don't know. But women get all C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C. about it, so we can't fucking say that word. Sorry.

Sorry. I don't know. Listen, this picture, this is the most amazing picture I've seen in a long time. What is this? I've told you all this before on this podcast. Y'all motherfuckers think I'll be playing. E.J. Johnson is incredible, bro. Which one is E.J.?

The most fabulous motherfucker in that picture. Come on, right. E.J. looked like he averaged 2010 and 11, all right? Who is magic? Okay? Forget the greatest point guard of all time. Who looks like they're the greatest point guard of all time in that picture?

I don't know. E.J. by far. I don't know if you look to the greatest point guard of all time. E.J. looks incredible, yo. Let me tell you something, man. You got to see E.J. in person to understand the elegance of E.J. Johnson.

You ain't never seen E.J. in person. You did? Where at? L.A. I saw him in L.A. too. I saw him a few times. I mean, I've seen him at a war shows and stuff, but I walked into a juice bar randomly one time. What?

You don't say her. Her. Him? Huh? What is it? E.J. Johnson. Give it. Is it a her or is it a him?

Her or him. Who? What do they identify as? Are you sure? I'm almost positive E.J. They're dressed like they identify as a her. Yeah, man. E.J. is fly.

Okay. I walked into a juice ball one time, man. I was like, who is this well-dressed person in the juice ball? And he was dressed in, like, workout clothes, but it still looks fly. Look rich. And he turned around. I'm like, oh, I'm like, E.J. You said what's up?

Yeah, you goddamn right. I said what's up to EJ. Dap him up? You dab him up. You damn right. You damn right. I mean, I've seen EJ gracefully floating through the MTV movie awards with high heels on, bro. He had on some, like, shoes that had like these super high heels at his side gracefully. Only person I see move in Hills bed is Beyonce.

And she was dancing. And Beyonce ain't six foot six, you know, two plus whatever E.J is. Okay? And when E.J.'s feet would hurt, E.J. sat down and had somebody unzipped his goddamn boots and rub his feet and put him back on. He was ready to start walking. Ain't no way. Fuck with me. You know I got it. Ain't no way. Okay. Who's the E.J. man. Play with E.J.

Did you handle that right there? Hmm? Could you handle that? You know, I've got to take things somewhere else. He's talking about one-on-one. Basketball? Yeah. A bussey's, yeah.

What about it in sex? Moving on. Moving on. Move on, son. Move on, Thu-hmm. Could you handle that? Taylor, move on. Could you handle all that?

This was funny as soon, too. Come on, bro. With Little Uzi Verge, a lead side chick. No, you know what I want to ask you about? Go to fucking, go to Shania Twain. Uh. I've been to Sinaiah Twain's

museum. Really? She got a museum? You got a museum. Way up north in Canada. No, Carrie Underwood. She was performing. Remember she was performing?

Are you saying Shania Twain because we just look at E.J.? What do you mean? Man, I feel like a boom. You have... That was good. Wait, you don't know that song from Shania Twain?

No. Yeah, you've heard it. If you've, you heard. Man, I feel like, go to the country singer who kicked the people out of the concert. She got a show like that for real. Plus that man, I feel like a woman. That was a good bar. That was a good bar.

You know what I mean? You're doing. We still shoot it. You know what I'm going to talk. Man. I don't know why do you use Twitter as a searching? Ba, bah, bah. No.

What's that dance everybody doing? They got this move in it. Bav, bow, bow. Yeah. Yeah, and then they go, go to country singer. Can we do that? I pulled my side back. I just pull my side.

I want to know what you think about this is a performer. All right, let me see. Country singer kicks people. No. Chenaya Twain. Chinaya Twain. Type in, type in country singer kicks people out of show. Chenaya kick people out of show.

Who did I give Donkey to today? Jason Aldean. Name some country singers. Lil Nasex. Fuck. She's named after the rights. What's the right? Miranda rights.

What's the right? Miranda Lambert. The shorty took a selfie at the Miranda Lambert joint. Tell me, show me, carry you on the wood. Tell me Carrie. It's not crazy, bro.

I don't get white people right on purpose, yo. What they did, the Mastopoebe and Luther Vandross? What they do? They said MasterP was Louva Vandross on Google, yo. So I refuse to get anything right. That's how I feel about fucking Dolly Parton.

Every time I'm on this. Show me what Dolly Parton did. Show me how Dolly Parton kicked them out. Now listen to this shit. What do you think of this show, as a performer? Let me see. Let me see. She stopped her whole show. I'm going to stop right here for a second, Danny.

I'm sorry. Yes, that's right. These girls are worried about the selfie and not listening to the song. It's piss me off a little bit. Why Carrie Underwood tripping, yo? That's fucked up, yo Why, yo? The fans left too, by the way.

Because they got what they needed. Would you do that to a fan? Well, it's different for you because you're comedy. If someone in the middle of my show is screwed up and took it. You don't count. You don't count. You don't count. You don't count.

You don't count. You don't count. You're comedy. Yeah. Comedians, I totally get it. But this is what the concert experience is for singers and musicians nowadays. Here's the thing. If you saw what was happening, it wasn't one person.

It was like six of them in a, fucking line. Their flash is going off. Someone else was taking the picture and they look like they were standing on like a walkway section. The other video shows it more. If they're there for a while, like she was saying it for a while. And

look at that. Six fucking people. There's multiple shots. Like, they're blocking other people's views. Other people are distracted. Well, I think it's a way to handle it. How about telling them, hey, man, enjoy the moment. I mean, I'll be honest.

Put your phone down and enjoy them. 100% but the other way is like you have your fucking security on that ass like that's who you need your security on that ass yeah I'm sure she had a million people take pictures of her like this film her etc those people are distracting other people from the show

you're right so I don't blame it and it looks weird because they have their back to her so many people have their back to her even though they just want her to be in the picture yeah I just want Loretta linda be nicer you know what I'm saying you should be nice to you went with a deep cut right there. What?

You went with a deep cut. I know some country singers. Do you? Yeah, George Gay. You know George Gay, right? No, who's George Gay? George Gay. I don't know.

You know George Gay. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. George Gay. You can keep saying the name, but I don't know who George Gay. Bro. George Gay.

The country singer. Google George Gay. Why? It's going to come up my search. George Gay, the country singer, yo. Don't mess up by Google. You're telling me that's not a country singer.

name George Gay? He said George Michael. Look, who types in Country Sing. Somebody put in George Gay. All you get is a bunch of George Michael. No, man. Pull up country singers then. Just type in country singers. There's a George Gay. There's no George Gay, bro. George H. G. Jr. And he wasn't a country singer. He was a... Naval officer, something like that.

Harry Underwood, Jason, Alice. George Scrae. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. I stayed in it. I stayed in it until somebody got it.

I stayed in it. That was good. I stayed in it until somebody got it. I hate him, bro. I hate them. I hate them. I hate it. Let's pay some bills, man.

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Now let's get back to the show. Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor. Taylor, guys. I did, but I don't. Sluo to JT and Uzi. Shout to JT and Uzi. I was going to, but I really don't have anything to say other than. Oh, Fabulous criticizes female rap

for being two one-dimensional. Fabulous, he says that female, oh, he said fabulous weighs in on the state of female rap saying that he feels it's two one-dimensional and wants to hear more perspectives from the ladies in hip-hop. Fab posted, what did he say? said that he's happy to see so many women doing their thing in hip hop

he loves some of these strong women chose to rap about their life experiences a little more. I get what Fab is saying. There is a lot of booty hole rap and what I call booty hole bars is a lot of women rapping about their booty holes. But I think that a lot of those women are just doing that because it works.

Yeah, they gravitate towards what's popular. Yeah, they gravitate towards what's popular. But if you dig a little deeper, these women do rap about other things. I've been on a record over the last four or five years. is my favorite rapper, period. Male or female is Rhapsody. Can't wait for Rhapsody's new project.

Rhapsody definitely don't have bootyhole bars. But even the girls that have booty hole bars, they can rap. Like I was listening to Emery Jones has a mixtape out called Humble Souls that he did in conjunction with Puma. First of all, it's fire. The only way to even get the tape

is you have to actually buy the sneakers. And when you buy the sneakers, there's a chip inside the sneaker that you can get the mixtape. And I think even the whatever this is on the shoe, what do you call this piece right here? This piece is an oxford on the, on the fucking shoelace. Amazing technology. But he's got a song in there and it's Rhapsody and, Kent the main.

Kent the man is her name. Ken the man. Is it Ken the man or Kent the man? I've heard Ken before and I thought Ken was just one of a little bootyhole bar rapper. But on this record, she's snapping. Like, her name is Ken the man. Ken the man. Ken the man.

And she's snapping on this record. And I was like, damn, I didn't even know she could do that. You know what I'm saying? And I think it's the same thing even with somebody like a Cardi or a Glorilla or a loto. Yeah, they can rap about sex and everything else, but they can rap about other shit too. You know, you just got to dig deeper than just what you might hear on the radio or that single that they have out. You know what I mean? So I think a lot of these female rappers, I can't say.

that a lot of them are just being one-dimensional. I just think it sounds like that because we're hearing so many singles from these women and if they're single and their single may have that that drive. It's maybe our fault, too. It's what we want to listen to.

If we gravitate towards it, that that's the thing that we want to digest. I can't sit here and act like I'm against booty hole boss. I like You know what I'm saying? I grew up on a little Kim saying used to be scared of the dick, Nato, lifts to the shit, handle it like a real bitch. You know what I mean? I grew up on Foxy Brad, I grew up on Trina.

I grew up on Jackie O. Like that shit don't bother me. You know what I mean? China White say, I don't lick no clits. What's you trying to say? China say I don't say, I don't lick no clits and suck no nuts. Don't let me get China White's bar right. China White don't lick no clits.

Who would be the equivalent of like a Drake or a J. Cole, somebody who has a men's success but isn't doing booty hole bullshit? You mean in the history of hip-hop? No, no. Like right now as female rapper. China white don't suck no dick or lick no nuts. Bitch I hit licks and flip bricks every two hours switch whips to keep the peoples off me. What you know about that no doze and coffee?

Fire, bro. Now I'm saying? China white, god damn it. What about shoot? Shoot. Peru. Shoot Peru. Shoot Peru.

Shoot Peru. Peru. Beu. Beu. Bootyhole boss. Do you know that song? Yes. It's a Seth.

I do know that song. No, no, no. No. What is that? How does this shit go? I used to know that shit. But shoot, but word for word. Only the girl part. When the dude started rapping, I was like, I'm good.

Let's see. Let's pull it up. Let's pull up salt and cup with chute. Salt. Shoot, babe. Let me see it. Let me see if Shultz really knows this shit. Make you get hot, make you work up.

Why you don't come out to that? Why don't you don't come out to that? But I thought for you. Betcha about a dollar. Oh, here I go. Here I go. Here I go. again girls what's my weakness man okay then chilling chilling mind my business your soul

but i couldn't believe this i swear i said my niece my witness the brother had it going on with something kind of wicked wicked had to kick it i'm not shy so i asked for the digits damn is this pepper you should be doing salt part i should be doing pepper i do bold oh you are pepper shit and you salt but i know this one better but let's okay go uh lick um lick um like a lollipop to be licked came to my I chill for a bit. Don't know how you do the boo-doo that you do. Hell, make me want to shoot, shoot, shoot, shoop. Shoop, ba-doo.

Don't say I don't love B-D-U-B-D-U-B-B-D-U-B-D. Don't say I don't love B-B-Hell. Hold on. You want that second verse? Hold on, hold on. You're packed in your stack. Especially in the back. Brother wanted to send a butt like a butt like that.

Want to thank your mother for a butt like that. The ad libid thinks, ma'am. Yeah. Can I get some fries with that shake, shake booty? If looks could kill you with the Oosie, I'm a shot, thunk. Bang! What's up with that thing? I want to know, Charlotte.

How does it hang? Trade up, later, hold up. Mr. Lover. Like Prince said, you're a sexy mother. I like them real wild. Be boy style by the mouth. Smooth black skin with a smile. Bright as the sun.

I want to get some fun. Let me get some of that. Yum. Young chocolate chip, honey dip. Can I get a scoop? Baby take a ride in my coop. You make me want to shoot. Shoot, shoot, betoo.

Shoot bedoo. Shoot bedoo. Wow. Is there another verse? That's great. Everyone needs a hype in my shirt. Like, shut. Son, I told you.

I know the whole song. Salute to salt pepper and Spinderella. Fucking legend. God damn. Legends. Legends. Legends. Legends.

Let's do some asking an idiot. That's crazy. Come, how do you all. Not no shoe. That was the number one song on like CRL or some shit. A bunch of uncultured colors. Let's do some ask you need it. No, but you didn't answer my question.

Who's a version like? What's the female? Yeah, what's the female? Well, no, no, no. See, when you say that, I can't make this statement without telling people we can't have the accolades. We're just talking about skill set.

Right? You're talking about skillset? No, not just with the skillset. Somebody who has a skill set, but also makes good music where people are tuning into non-bootyhole rap. Because that's what I feel is disconnected.

Like the ones that aren't doing the booty hole rap, their music isn't hitting like that. You're right. I feel like the last... Rhapsody, to me, competes with all of them. You know, I think lyrically, Rhapsody is up...

My person, I've been in rap cities up there with Kendra. I feel like the last one like that was Lauren Hib. Yeah. But I said history. You said now. No, no, I'm saying now. I'm saying the last one we had that wasn't making booty hole rap,

but that was making bangers, I feel as Lauren Hill. If you're not going to do booty hole rap. Oh, Eve, yeah. But she also had booty hole rap. No, not really. No, Hushett was just like, I'm nicer rapping than you.

I'll fuck you up. All right, sir. But if you do booty hole rap, MC Light, Queen Latif. I mean, I'moni love. Like, it's, I mean, it's been a bunch of, women rappers. I realize I only know women rap songs by heart.

You should be slapping, bro. I pretty much only know. Mea X was hard. Game to fool was hard. Yo, De Brat, man. China White was hard. I don't give a fuck. I love China White.

I don't know why China White ain't take off like she shit. China White was hard. I don't just talk about somebody now. No. I mean, rap cities don't know, man. I mean, I think what happens is like if you're going to not do booty hole rap, you need to build a community. And they just got to work.

work more and building that community. Like Jay Cole is not doing a booty hole rap, but Jay Cole has built a community for himself. He's, has friends, fans have an identity. They come out. So they're down to digest whatever art he puts out. Same with, same with what's his face.

Kendrick. Kendrick built a community. He built like a listener, a viewership for his content. But the thing with booty hole rap is there's already so much desire for it that you could be someone who's maybe not as famous. and then throw a bootyhole rap song out there and then people are like,

ooh, I like this thing because I like booty hole rap. Yeah. It's like a gangster film. It's like a gangster film. Like you could have a lesser known person put out of film about some gangster shit and we'd be like,

ooh, I like it because I like gangster things. Yeah. Gotcha. Naila. Who are some women that don't do booty hole bars right now that are successful? Like women that don't just rap about their booty hole. Of course we know Rhapsody and Chica.

Rhapsody and Chica. Chica. Who is Chica? I'm not familiar with Chica. She used to be really popular on Twitter. Oh, that's the one who has like a kidney infection or something now? I'm not sure possibly. She's heavy set.

She's signed to Warner, but she's good. With the dreds? Yeah. Whiskey, yeah. That's the one who got into it with T.I. and Tiny them over her kid or something? I don't know. I don't know all the drama. Oh, so just that damn, is this two?

No, I feel like Bia doesn't really make money. Oh, Bia is fire, bro. She only had that one? With coal. That song is great. London. Oh, hold on. I can answer your question, too.

Doja Cat. Doja Cat does both. No, Doja Cat, she sings and rap. And she sells records. Doja can rap her ass off. That new song Doja got called Attention is fire. She's a really talented artist. But y'allon, I look at Doja Cat as a rapper.

Yes, I look at Doja Cat as a rapper. What do you say? You look at Drake as a rapper? Docee? Oh, Dochi. Docee, too. Don't you sign the TDE. If Drake is rapping, then Doja's rapping too.

Got it now. Right? I think that's fair. Yes. Doja is talented, man. Like, that girl is fucking oozing talent. Ooh, ooh. No, who, Doge.

Listen, her new song, attention, snaps. It sounds like Lady Bugs and diggerable plaintiffs on that shit. Fire. Fire. What did you say? She sound like, she sound like Lady Bucs.

some digable planets on it. What is that? Digable planets. You remember diggle of things? I'm cool like that. I'm cool like that. I'm cool like that. Is it a female rapper?

I only know female rapper. Yeah, she's a female rapper. Ladybug a woman. What else we got? Want a man, want a man. Want a man. One a mighty good man. Okay, this is a good one.

I'm him, Jojo says. I know that one. Word for word too. Every song about wanting dick, I know. Real talk. My boy. My boy right there. I'm him, Jojo says.

That's my boy right there. That's my boy. That's my boy right there. Is it more important to have patience or confidence? Confidence. Be confident enough to wait. Man, that's a good. Confident enough to wait.

I like where you're going. I like that. I never thought about it like that. You can't have patience without confidence. Can't have patience without confidence. You can't. Like being patient is the epitome of confidence in a lot of time, in a lot of ways. just knowing, hey, I don't have to do this right here because I'm nice and I'm going to go get it.

I agree. They're one and the same. They definitely all one and the same because what Andrew's saying, either way you flip it is the same thing. You have to have, if you have ultimate confidence, you'll have patience because you know eventually your time will come. And if you have patience, you're having patience because you're confident in the fact that your time will come. Now, there are some people who can have, so I know you're about to go out, because I can see this too. you can have, because I'm thinking to Kanye right now, right, who had all the confidence in the world,

but was extremely impatient because he knew I am the one, y'all don't see me. You know what I'm saying? But I wouldn't look at patience in that way. Like, if you're, I look at patience in this. Like, you know you're going to be great. Some record label comes up, offers you a shitty deal. No patience and no confidence is, I got to take it,

because I might not get this again. True. Confidence is going, no, I'm good. I'm going to get my fucking fire deal. True. But being impatient in that Kanye's an era where it's like, hey, I'm ready to go right now. I don't know if that's impatience. I don't know if that's, I'm not willing to wait anymore because nobody, I guess they were telling him to wait.

But I don't know if that's impatience. That's just knowing the time is now and the times to go. But having patience with no confidence, it's like, I can just see you. You'll never do anything. You don't do shit. I don't think, I don't need the confidence. The Andrew's point. But I don't know if it's, I'm worth something coming.

Like, that's... To Andrew, point, I don't think you can have patience without confidence. It's hard. You're not patient and you're scared. Yeah, you're scared to death. You're like, what the fuck? What's going to happen?

Patience is, I know something great is going to happen. You know, it's just a matter of time. If you don't have confidence, you're like, oh, my God. That's anxiety. You're being anxious with the motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Eric G, if aliens come to live with us on Earth, who is the first person race who would procreate?

Oh, come on, that's easy. Who would have sex with the aliens? Yeah. Who is the first person in race who would procreate? Oh, Max. See, geez. Come on. Yeah, 100%.

Why not? Oh, I would look you. I like you. Look at that. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.

Hey, hey, hey, what's up? Hey. Alien. Alien. Alien. Yeah, we called alien. Come on. Come on.

Hey, come on. Hey, come on. Hey, come on. Hey. You don't. You know. She don't got nice tini's, but she got a lot of head. Maybe because I speak Spanish.

Scroll up. Tell what else we got? Let's do a couple more. No, go down. Go down. Taylor. Fucking Taylor. Fucking Taylor.

Fucking Taylor. Ask him all the question. I'm not doing that. That's a crazy question, Carl Martin. You're basically asking name. He said name for people you would pick to join you on the Ocean Gate site. Hey, yo. Exactly. Like, wow, you're saying four people I want to die with?

That's great. I'd be busting stupid dope moves that Shala was tripping when he said Nas isn't on the top of the greatest storyteller list. That's not what I said. What I said was I said that there's good storytellers and then there's great elite storytellers. I think Nas is a good, great storyteller. I don't think Nas is... He told a story in reverse.

Yeah, I think he said. Rewind was crazy. great story, but it's not on the level of something big has done. I think it's not on the level of something star face is his greatest talent. Yeah. Nah, I disagree with that. I mean, Nas also just got bars for days. That, Nas is fantastic.

If I did a top 10 storytellers, Nause would be in there, but I was doing like a top five. Who's the best storyteller of all times to you? Biggie Smalls, notorious B-I-G. And Biggie was so good at storytelling. We don't even realize that majority of his work was stories. Do you see Yeo and DJ? Wait, what's his name? DJ.

DJ, EFN. And by the way. EFN. People act like that's not a good debate. But he goes to, did you say, yeah, yo. Yeah, yo caught it in slow motion. He's like, who do you think is better? That's a whole lot of time.

He goes, ice cube. He goes, he goes, all right. Wait, what? You think Ice Cube is the greatest story. Better than Big? better than what? Better than big! They were screaming on one another.

I love that. So New York, because you don't even make an argument. You just get loud. And that's your argument? They both just got loud with one another. Yeah, I think, to me, storytelling rap is the highest level of rap.

Because I think when you ever, like we were talking about earlier with movies and everything, we just want a great story. If you're able to tell a great story through music, like, you're just a phenomenal artist to me. Like, people, can make songs, but to make a great story

beginning, middle, the end. I definitely got Cube high on that list. I got Biggie High on that list. I got Slick Rick high on that list. I got motherfucking Scarface high on that list. You have to have Kooji rap. I got Kooji on the same tier

as Nause. And that's a, I'm not saying, this is a great tier. What about TLC? What about Jay-Z? Jay Z's on the tier with Nod's Koo-G to me. These are great storytellers. I'm like, I love Jay Z's story records, but I feel Nas's story records, like one level

up. Like, if you rap in a song backwards, bro, that shit. Inbre, bro, it was, I remember listening to that for the first time going, I can't even believe that I just heard it. I love rewind. Now's that's some stories that I love.

I'm just saying, like, if I took Biggie's 10 greatest storytelling records and put them up against Nause's 10 greatest storytelling record, nobody's disputing, nobody's disputing Biggie and Nott. I think, you could argue the best. I mean, he's got unbelievable.

Cube was up there, too. Ice Cube is a really good story. I know people running it was a good day, but then you got my summer vacation. Oh, man, he got a bunch of them. I can't think right now. But Ice Cube has some really great storytelling record. Scarfick, the emotion that a Scarface makes you feel. I think that's what I'm lacking from a Nas.

Naz tells good stories, but he's never taking me. never taking me anywhere emotionally. It's just a good story. You know what I mean? You can't tell me. Listen to never seen a man cry until I see the man die. Tell me you don't shut the tip. You know what I mean?

Listen to mind playing tricks on me. The deepness, the richness of that record and they're emotional. Like, you listen to that song, you can hear your anxiety. You can hear your depression. You can hear your schizophrenia. You know what I'm saying? Like, I love Nas. I love Nas.

Nause is in my top five favorite rappers of all time. I just don't have him on that. And it's not like it's leaps and bound. I think Biggie is leaps and bound. I think faces leaps and bounds. You know, ghost faces up there too. Kendrick is a great storyteller. He's a great storyteller.

But he's the guys, I'm talking about our elite, man. When Biggie said he's the rap, Alfred Hitchcock, like, come on, man. A different level. That's far. Last one. Oh, this is good. Brown Butter says, Better Big Screen comedian. Eddie Murphy or Martin Law.

That's good. Yo, the knee jerk is to say Eddie, but. But Martin has had some fucking hysterical. Dude, Blue Streak. Phenomenal. Was hysterical. Life. Life.

Both of them are in it. Both of them in that, yeah. The knee jerk is to go Eddie, and I love Eddie, and I probably say Eddie, but I'm also adding the stand-up into it because he's, like, you know, one of my goats. A thin line between love and hate Martin got. But Martin was funny in movies, bro. I think you gotta go Eddie because Eddie just has more. I guess when you add comedian to it, like you think funny.

But I mean, Eddie was funny and everything too. The reason I got to go Eddie is because you know some, you know Beverly Hills Copp was for Sylvester Stallone. I heard it was for somebody else. It was for Sylvester Stallone. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. And so Eddie came in there and they was like, they didn't even really change anything.

So all the funny you think is just Eddie being Eddie. Eddie being Eddie. adding the character work doing all that shit and then you know coming to America boomerang oh yeah he just got a

he just got a trading places was a real trading places you know 48 hours I I love Martin though

Martin is incredible too life is the one to me Martin got um one two of the movie with Will Smith oh

not right Not bad boys Bad boys One bad boys two I didn't see three Bad boys But bad boys one was fucking Amazing

Bad Boys 2 was good too Bad Boys for life was good too All the family different family characters Oh big mama's house That was Eddie Eddie did nutty professor Eddie did nutty professor You're thinking of an nutty professor

Yeah you can't fuck with Eddie Eddie Eddie's on a different He's different love. He can't fuck with him. He can't poke with Eddie. Got to go ahead. Thank you all for joining us this week, man.

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