The Brilliant Idiots - Post Dame Interview (Ft. Loren Lorosa)

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

In this episode of the Brilliant Idiots Podcast, Loren LaRosa is back with Charlamagne Tha God and they break down Dame Dash’s appearance on the Breakfast Club, his wild legacy in hip-hop. They get real about pride, ego, and materialism in the culture, and why respect matters so much whether in conversations, business, or life. The also dive into what it really takes to be an entrepreneur, how fame can fuel conflict, and why relationships in business are just as important as money. They also touch on race, gender, and the challenges women face in media, plus some raw thoughts on mental health and politics. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel https://www.simonandschuster.biz/books/The-Black-Family-Who-Built-America/Cheryl-McKissack-Daniel/9781668033999 Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Charlamagne de God. We are the Brilliant Idiot Podcast. Back for another week of Brilliant Idiotness. Hesachia Walker is in Australia. But back by popular demand, they did not run her off. They did not scare her. First time. L.L. Cubey, Lauren Larosa.

They be scared people? Oh, the Brilliant Natives listening. They're worse than Breakfast Club? Yes. This is Brett, baby. Very many listeners don't like women. They do, but they don't. They explained it to me last time you was here.

I forgot what they said. Why did they say they don't like women? They say because they're not funny. Funny. Yeah, they don't know how to roll with the punches. You know what I'm saying? Not saying that they thought you was funny. I was about to say, people say I don't roll with punches.

And I'm like to women, women, women, move, men, go women. I mean, you're getting your feminist bag for no reason sometimes. All right. It's good for the content. Don't you think it's wild being a woman and being a feminist at the same time? I don't even say. But I don't say stuff like I'm a feminist. I just say how I feel.

Most of the time, it's feminist-ish. Or it's like, y'all just don't want to hear it. No, I get riding for your set. Y'all, I don't ride for the set about everything, though. But you got to throw your V up. Throw your fucking V up. What y'all throw up? Huh?

The dick. I'm gay. You know that. What you're talking about? What you mean? Oh, yes, girl. Ball hit a woman. Ball hit it, girl.

Listen, but we're here because, you know, we got to keep beating off this content. I keep telling y'all, you know, there's certain interviews that happen every now and then, and we call them Thanksgiving turkeys. You know what I'm saying? The reason I call them Thanksgiving turkeys, because everybody eats off them and you eat off them for at least a week or two.

You eat off them for at least a week or two, you know, and there's some things, you know, you see how it goes throughout the tested time because some things might last. You know what I mean? Like, it might be a name. Like, you might be calling him debt dash, you know, for the rest of his life.

Or you might be saying he's going to start debt jam record for the rest of his life. Or you might be calling me a ball-headed girl. You might be walking up on me saying, I'm gay. That's been going on since forever. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

I mean, I think, Webby started that. I would say, well, my gayness probably started that too. But Webby saying Charlotte McGay. This is me, Webber to 3Fam Young Savvy, Sweet John Jr., doing what I do, and I do what I do, and I'm doing it. But my girl, DJ Envi, Angela Lee, and J. Damn.

Hold on. DJ Envi, Angela Yee, and Charlotte McGay. People have been running up on me saying Charlotte McGay forever. You was gay before that. You think so? Yeah, I mean, you're born. born gay, you, that's just how it goes. No, I mean, not figurative game, not literal game.

Now, come on, now you're not, all right. I'm not, whatever. Let's play. What do you want to start? Where do you want to start? How do you feel? Yes, how do you feel? The masculine black man.

You know what I'm saying? I don't think you guys are. I'm listening. Okay. Like, your OG is Wendy Williams. She is. My OG is sitting right here. You see him?

Mm-hmm. And I'm going to tell you why he's my OG, because he's not, because he killed anybody or any of those things. He just taught me how to be a better man. Wendy. Can you stop? Can you stop?

Wendy Williams is your OG. Wasn't she your boss? Yeah, at one point. So she was your OG? She put you on and you should give her a place. You know what I realized about this clip right here? I realize that there's a lot of young people who don't know I came up on the Wendy Went. So they just saw you sit on her lab and just what, what they go on?

I think that picture, I mean, that picture probably started circulating more after. It was circulating before, but it definitely started circulating more after this because I saw people tagging me in it a lot. But Wendy Williams is my OG. Why, you said she was in this interview? I did. I said she wasn't. You said that's not my OG, by the one. Because I never look, I don't look, I mean, I never called her my OG, but she is. I just look at her as like, yo, what is, I don't know. Like, that's, she put me on. Maybe I think I have called her my radio OG before. Yeah, you try a player right here. You think so? Dame 8 with that one. Wendy Williams is your OG. But mind you, that's not a knock. That's not a knock

for what you do, but you know what he was trying to do because of where Wendy, like, what? Like, it's like gossipy and like he was trying to say, you know, you'd be like, girl, yes, clock it. I wanted to ask you about that, right? And this is, I do. He do do that. I do.

You know, I do wish that in a lot of ways we could do like postgame interviews with the guests. Well, I was going to say, before you even do that, can you provide context for the interview? Like, what was the relationship coming in? What was he there to talk about? What's the setting? If you asked me, Dane came to prove he's not broke.

And I don't know if he's broke or not. I'm just saying, like, that's what, you know, he filed for bankruptcy. And, you know, that's what everybody says about him. And I think he really cares about what the Internet says about him. Like I told him in an interview, he really cares about what the Internet says about him. He really cares about what other people think about him. And I think, you know, 50 buying paid in full are allegedly buying the rights to paid in full. That's really set him off.

That in the camera and thing. Because Dame is a very prideful person. Like Harlem is, that's his baby. One thing, I don't think there's nobody on the planet more prideful than people from Harlem. I'm not even joking. Name them. There's, no, I don't know, bro.

That's the thing I got nothing on Harlem. Because Texas can't talk about the way they dress. They don't lay their outfits out the night before at 40 years old. Like, it's a little different in Harlem. Like, the belts match, the pants. It used to be Brooklyn, but I feel like people gentrifying Brooklyn so much that it doesn't have the same weight that it used to have, but Harlem hasn't lost this step.

They still feel like the 90s. I mean, yeah, what did you tell us, Lauren, he reached out to you to come on the show. Yeah, well, so I feel like Dane came on because we report on him a lot and he feels like sometimes people take one narrative. So he wanted to come and set his own narrative and that's what he attempted to do.

I don't think it worked out the way he thought it would, but I think he just wanted to clear some things up. And I don't think it was the buying the rights to pay to full either. anytime you talk about anything with him and money so like the child support stuff the tax stuff we've been reporting on him a lot and every time he's like yeah but why don't you talk about this

so also he came to talk about the other stuff like his books what he doing schools like he feels like people only attach to the negative and the Dame is broke narrative he was trying to change the narrative around Dame Dash you are absolutely right and that's his Achilles Hill I know people like that

that's why I always say you shouldn't lead with money Like I used to tell I used to tell who was it Who was the young rich niggas? Who was label was that? Was that the Migos? Yeah. I think so.

I used to always say Those are two things you can't ever lean on. You can't lean on youth and you can't leave on money because you're not going to always be young and you're not going to always be the richest person in the room.

You know what I'm saying? So you can't lean on those two things. So when you're not young anymore and you're not up like you used to be, what are you? So that's why, That's how, like, I don't even play the money game. I don't be calling nobody broke.

Like, that's good. But he needed to be called him. Because even if he's not broke, he's broken. You know what I'm saying? He's a broken. He's a broken person. That's why we got to pray for his healing. Top 10, what is this?

I like this. This is the top Dame dash breakfast club mode. Start with the first one. This is a good. You walked in with a man. This is one of those sneaky ones because everybody keeps reposting this and sending me this. Not to get betrayed by your brother. You remember last time I was.

said you don't mess with, that's why don't be around men. So we all know they betrayed Jesus. I said this. You walked in here with a man. Can I finish? Here's the ill thing about Dame. Everything Dame tells people not to do he does. So he says he don't be around men. He walked in there with OG. His OG Dan, that's the man. And last time he was on breakfast club, he had two men with him. It was OG Dan and Murder Moog. So what are we talking about here?

I think Dame just feels like he's named Dan. So he could do. He set the rules, but he don't got to follow him. That's that. But that worked for him so long ago. Y'all, you were closer to it than I am. No, I wasn't. Yes, she was.

He's not that much older than you. I was at home watching back. He's actually about 10 years older than me. I was. I thought he was like five, maybe four. No, he's 55, 55, 56 years old. Oh, dang, I thought you was old. Sorry.

No, I'm 47. I was at home watching backstage when Dame was in his prime. Yeah. Okay. I wasn't, I didn't even moved to New York until O.C. Yeah, but I just think what I realized in person, I was just watching like this is insane, is that the persona of who Dame Dash is didn't evolve. Like, it didn't grow up to a certain extent.

And I think when he talks about going to the schools and teaching the kids, that's the, that's the attempt to. But then he has to bring back in the, do you know who I am, I'm Dame Dash, I do what I want. And it just, that didn't grow up. He didn't grow up. He's boss baby. Like, you got, like, you got, no, for real, like you got a girl. The problem, boss, baby, knowing with Suhi Ward. That's crazy.

And I told him that in the interview. It's like, yo, you haven't evolved in 15 years. You've been talking about the same thing for 15 years. And I mean this, I don't have no problem with Damon whatsoever. I don't want anybody ever to think that. Do you feel any empathy for him? Like, do you feel bad for him at all? I feel.

I felt bad after the interview. Not bad that we did the interview. I feel like it was fair game. He came in with the energy. Y'all gave it back. Whatever. But I felt bad just like, Dame Dash is like, you know, it's like you hear. the stories, the hip-hop stories and all the things,

and then now we're looking at how people talk about them now. You know what's so funny? I did say to myself later that night, like, oh, man, I don't like this. Only because, like, there's a part of me that liked it, but then there's a part of me that don't like it, because I just think it's unnecessary. You know what I'm saying? There's too much real shit going on

in the world, you know? And if you're, if you want to be a serious person, like I believe Dame is, Or I wants to be. Like, this just isn't serious. Like, this just isn't the way to go about doing things. Because I'm with all the bullshit if we want a bullshit. I gave him bad respect.

Like, I gave you a lot of respect. You know, I tried to give you a lot of respect. In the interview? What was the respectful part for you? Yeah, I know. All of it. We started off very respectful. Like, hello, hi.

Yeah. No, he came in. He set the rules. We're going to get to that later in the pod. But let's, because there's something I want to address that. I saw him post on his page. What's the next one? Go ahead, Alex.

So to me, it's sad to see him like this because it's like I used to look up to what, Dame and Jay and Biggs, what they built and what they did because it was like inspiring. It was like, oh, look at entrepreneurship, look at what we can do if we work together and build something. And it's like, yeah, and it sucks that, you know, like Charlotte said, it doesn't seem like he's evolved grown up in the past 15 years. And it's like, it's sad because he has the capability of. doing a lot, but I think because he hasn't grown up, that's what's holding him back.

I'm glad you bought that up just now, Lauren, and Alex, because I really, I hadn't given this any thought. I'm really sitting down thinking about a lot of this right now, but I agree with all of that. And I think that's why this is good, because we need examples. Like, we need examples. Like, don't look at this interview and just laugh. Look at this interview and learn. Because we also, we need, we need contrast sometimes that aren't criminal. Like, it's easy to see. how some people crash and burn because they got on some criminal dumb bullshit. But what about

when a person just won't get out of their own way with their own ego? Yeah. You know what I mean? And this is what it is. He leads with ego a lot. So I would hope just like 10 years ago, you know, Dame came on a breakfast

club. He gave an interview. I didn't agree with a lot of it, right? But, you know, when he's like, yo, he sparked a lot of so-called entrepreneurs. A lot of people decided they wanted to be their own boss, and a lot of people decided they wanted to start their own businesses. That's a cool mindset to have. I always said I felt like there wasn't a how that came with that interview,

but that's what sparked the Earned Elysias. That's what sparked the Wall Street Trapplers. That's what sparked that whole financial literacy movement in our culture. Like, if you talk to Rashad and Troy, they'll probably tell you the same thing. Like that Breakfast Club interview with Dame Dash is kind of what made them be like, oh, okay. And they started connecting the dots as far. as far as like what the how is.

So I would hope the same way that sparked that 10 years ago, I hope people look at this now and say, man, this is what happens if you don't grow up. This is what happens if you don't evolve. This is what happens if you don't heal. That's it. Like that's it. I don't mean to laugh, but oh my God.

Are you learning, though? You can laugh as long as you're learning. Even before he came in, every time I report on him. And I think that's why even though it does get difficult sometimes to, we've kind of figured out a balance of, like, me reaching out all that. Dame Dash can be a lot. I still do it because there is a reverence of, like, I'm learning from what's happening to him, and the least I can do is extend the, hey, do you have something to say?

Yeah. Like, I don't ever, I said yesterday, I was like, I don't ever want to end up where, like, regardless of what he's claiming, why he had to do bankruptcy and all that, I don't want to end up like that. I don't. I just don't. Chris, you've been around a while. It's the same story.

I mean, this is nothing new. I might have told the story on the pod before, but he had, this was with Combat Jack. Now, Reggie Combat Jack was Dame's very first lawyer. Rest of Peace, Combat, Reggie. Yes, RIP, going back to the earliest days. He represented Dame and Dame's cousin. I think they had an internet business before they were in the music thing.

But anyway, Reggie wanted Dame to come on the Combat Jack show. Dame was like, I'm in a new stage of my life. I've turned over a new leaf. If it's a new dame, I'm not confrontational anymore. I want to do it, but I want to hear from you about what we're going to talk. He wanted to basically like feel ready out and make sure that he wasn't going to come after him. So dame had like a studio or an event space down on Orchard Street in the city. We went down there.

There were all these people there. And like, Dame started with this long speech about how he's a new chapter in his life and he's positive. And it was cool. We were talking to everything is good. And then slowly like. Dame came out. And it was cool. Like, we were all laughing, but he was just like,

Reg, you were always the corneous motherfucker. You used to wear leather jackets with fringe. I can't even do it justice. It was funny, you know? And he was like, you thought you were Terrence Trent Darby and like singing, wishing well to him. And like, I started fucking with him. And finally, Reggie was like, I'm out of here, man.

I remember they had a little balcony. We were having the meeting on the balcony. We're leaving. And Dame is still on the balcony, you know, singing. Very Trent Darby fucking lyric, you know, and like... See, I'm with all that type of shit. He just, it's who he is. I'm with that type of shit.

I respect that he's consistent. The guy is incredibly fucking consistent. Yeah. I don't know if it's good for his health. I don't know if it's good for his business. Yeah. But this guy has not... He can talk about new chapters and new this.

Like, that's who the guy is. He's like... Click the dead dash one. Let's see that. Yeah. This was a masterclass. I want to hear about the house thing, too. That was my favorite.

You know, you changed your whole life. He did. I changed your whole life. You put me on the wall. Look, that changed his life. How do you know you don't come outside? There's no windows in here. This shit is crazy.

In the dark. There's a curtain. We can left. A curtain. Yeah, you're behind the stage. The curtain? You're in a coffin. I would never.

This is uninspiring. It's dirty and all that shit. Your girl, you're cleaning this shit up. Look at your sneakers. Your sneakers are dirty. Your sneakers are filtered. That ain't like you, Dane. I just, I just took it.

See how you lying? I just put this on today. I'm just fucking with you. You know, you care too much about money and material things, man. What are you talking about? You do. You're contradicting yourself. Your whole existence is money and material things.

That's why not that you don't have it. Your whole existence is gay. You're trying to prove to everybody that you do. Your whole existence is gay. Your whole existence is gay. It sounds like you've been. paid to do what you're doing. You should be objective on the radio. You need to get paid to do something. Then you wouldn't be in debt.

Dead Dash, that's his new name. You should start a new label called debt jam. That's what you should. Now, the fake laugh, nobody's checking for that. I heard him. I heard him. Now, let me tell you all some, there's layers to that. Let me tell you why there's layers to that. Um, because I always grew up hearing about Dame Dash never wearing the same sneakers twice. Yep. So when you call our studio dirty.

I didn't know if your sneakers was dirty or not. I'm just like, oh, watch this. Oh, your sneakers dirty. I knew that I was going to drive him crazy. I knew that he was going to have to try to prove that his sneakers aren't dirty. I didn't know he was going to take him off and show him to the camera, but I kind of figured he was going to do something to let me just prove how superficial and materialistic he is. That's how much he cares about that.

Nah, but that's growing up. Like, his OG don't care about that shit. Nope. O.G. He didn't even put a number for this thing, girl. Take your sneaker off. And it's such you not that fast. O.G.

Waded out, look at the room, peep the room. Think that shit, it's too fast. You know what I wanted to ask you, Lauren, as a woman? How do you feel when people use girl as a slur? I didn't care about that. I mean, maybe because it's you, too, so it's like... She was enjoying it. Because I had somebody telling me that they don't like when guys do that.

I never thought about it either, but it's like you're using girl as a slur. See, that's what I'm saying. Like, I pick and choose when I throw the V. because I don't care about that. Like, I don't, oh, girl. But you do have, like, girlie things you do. Your eyebrows, we talk about it all the things. I don't get my eyebrows.

Your eyebrows. You love to clock it. You know, you do the little thing. Like, you just naturally, like, throw your hair. You know what I'm talking about. And then stand up. Show them how you dance. Like, when you be dropping it and stuff?

It depends. Like, you have things that you do that. Like, I'm like, okay, I can kind of see. Like, you're not a disgrace to the masculine man, though. Like, you try to make a thing. you seem. But I didn't, you know, I felt... Let's play that one. Let's play that. Just... To me, that's the most secure.

Like, that's the thing. It's like, I don't get why people try to make that a knock. It's like, hey, I'm so secure at myself that you can dance, you could drop it low, you could do any of that shit and it don't affect him in any way. The funniest shit in the interview, there was a point in the interview where Dame goes, you think I care what another girl thinks? So what are you saying? I'm like, Dan, what do you mean? So are you saying you're a girl? as well. What do you mean another girl?

I can't believe girls were calling you mad about this? No, women. I know women get, I know people get mad when you say girl and not like a woman. Do you ever read that? When you're gay as a slur. Like when you weaponize gay it's the same thing. Like you're weaponizing somebody being like as if being a girl's a bad thing. Oh, when he threw the thing, he was like, you're a girl clean this up as if only girls clean shit up.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know. What about the whole protection thing? That kind of caught me. What do you mean? I forget what it is exactly. But it was basically like, I think it's in this. It's in the masculinity part. All right. Let's go find that.

Representation of the masculine black man. You know what I'm saying? I don't think you guys are. I'm listening. Okay. Like, your OG is Wendy Williams. My OG is sitting right here. You see him?

And I'm going to tell you why he's my OG because he's not because he killed anybody or any of those things. He just taught me how to be a better man. Wendy. Can you stop? Can you stop? Wendy Williams is your OG. Wasn't you your boss?

Yeah. So she was your OG. She put you on and you should give her her grace. And you should also give her props out of respect. But you, because we have different trauma. Like, we're different. Like, I'm not the kind of guy that would, like, I'd rather get my ass whipped than run. But you're proud that you ran.

God damn right. I'd rather get my ass with. And it ain't no disrespect, but I kind of think you're gay. You just act a little gay. You got a problem with gay? Not at all. I've got a problem with people that pretend they're not gay. So let me, let me tell you why.

Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. You're gay. So what I'm saying is you might because you started in gossip, which is, you know, is very, it's very feminine. And you want people to listen to you and that we want people that represent masculinity because men need to be doing what they need to do as men. They don't need to be worried about girl stuff. Do you think he's masculine? Would you want this man around you with 10 guys jumped you?

He'd run. and you'd have to run with them. I like my women to feel safe when they around me. I don't tell people, like, and I'm saying that's your way, but you're just not masculine. We should have run. I've seen him run. I've seen, I've seen, I've seen, I would get a whole real.

It's like the thing that says how many people bar. You're not going to run. There's stuff that how many times you may play with, let's go. Talk about other people's genitals. I'm going to say, let's go. We're going to get the fuck out of him. You're both running. The fuck are we saying 10 people for.

I was, yeah, you're not going to run first. Let's go. Let's get the fuck on. But when did they start swinging and we can't run? What's you going to do? You're going to try to get out there. That's different. You know what I'm saying?

But if you can get out of there, you should try to skedaddle. I'm serious? If you can get out there, you should try to fucking skeddata. Why would you sit around and fight in people? What do you have to prove? There's nothing to prove. It's like, hey, at the end of the day, you should want to live. Dane thought I was joking when I said to him,

I think you're experiencing some type of head trauma because of that same situation. I was not joking when I said that. He paused it, but I'm dead serious. There's something a little like That's why I'm telling you, man My dream I would love to do a post-game interview With a person like name Like after an interview like this

And after you know you've watched it for a couple of days And you've seen the memes And seeing how people took in You know, perceive certain things You want to sit down and let's have a conversation about this Yeah, I don't think it will work with him There will have to be like spare He's going to still come back in on the like you're going to get this

It's going to be same name in the game So you're saying Dame can have no accountability for nothing is what you're saying? I think Dame can, but I think when lights camera action happens, you get Dame Dash, Rockefeller chain, Air 1. Like, it's just, you're not going to get that. I think you could. There's intelligence there. Like, I think people like to do that, too, with Dame Dash. Like, he has all of these things that we talk about and it's funny.

But, like, there is intelligence there. Like, he might not be Jay-Z today, but he was around and he contributed to things. Like, let's not. I don't see high emotional intelligence. Not right. But I think he picked. I don't even really see high intellect intelligence, to be honest with you. But that's what I'm saying.

I think all it is to me when I was watching him, I think it's a like, you don't get there. There's like a masquerade. But listen to what he says. All of y'all say this, you base it off what he's done. No, but I mean. Talk about now in conversation. I don't, I'm not hearing anything that I've ever heard before. But I think he's hurt now.

I think all of this will we witness is like he's a hurt boy who feels left behind, who feels uncare for, unappreciated, and all of that. I mean, because that's what it's giving. Game Dash is a grown man, but yeah, but a child. Yeah, y'all got. That's the only thing I wish I would have said to him. That's correct. Right.

Wait, boy is a, you can say it. You can say it. You're a black woman. I was trying to say, like, younger him. Like, that's what I was referring to. Oh, yeah, there's a hurt. I don't even know. I want to say there's a hurt young man inside of him,

but I think it's more like a hurt 20-something. That's so young. Because he's kind of stuck in that, he stuck at whatever his golden era was. You know what I mean? Like when it was the height of everything, everything was moving, you know,

you on stage, you know what I'm saying? Like, he don't realize that that's not that no more. Yeah, he don't realize. Yeah,

he's like the, you remember, I'm going to get you sucker when the dude got out of prison and he thought he was killing him with the zoot suit and the big ass hat and the fish tank fucking shoes on.

That's, like, that's what Dame is right now. It's like, bro, go get a custom suit. Okay, your suit shouldn't fit like this.

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's all I'm saying, right? But the reason why I don't think the postgame interview would work because look at the reception he got after that and then look at his behavior online. He's still with the same behavior online days after, which shows you he didn't learn a single thing. He's playing the victim online. That hurt me a little bit. Like, come on, Dan. Let's stick with the jokes.

But he's still lying. That is true. He lied about being the chairman. That is true. The owner of Revolt said, not and he still was like, yo, what you're talking about. That is true. He did that just to try the shit on camp. Because, you know, Cam is at revolt.

He just wanted to be able to say Cam, I'm your boss. But by the way. Literally, that's it. That's what he did that for. That whole chairman play, unless it's real, and it just be like, you do it for a week or a month, if that were what it was, it wasn't. For marketing, you're still not really his boss. Like, it's a, it's a gimmick.

It's a, you know what I mean? Like, what person you think is going to believe that you just, you file for bank rep receipt one week, the next week. It's like, yo, I'm acquiring revolt. TV. Like, I don't... Like, if... I feel if he went about things differently, you can believe that. Because Trump has filed bankruptcy dozens of times, and look, he's still up, up right now.

Not that you can't get there, but the fight, like, that's like two... That was like last week. That hit the news, like a week of two ago. I am so glad that you just bought that up. And I am so glad a man who actually wrote the art of the deal... Yeah. Is here. Huh?

I did not write the artist. I thought you were about the right there. What happened with that? I was the ghostwriter on Ivanka's book. A bonka's book, yeah. But you've been around the Trump thing. I have. This is what I was trying to explain to Dane.

Number one, Trump is not known as a good businessman. No. He's known as one of the worst businessman and one of the biggest con artist. So what are you using him as an example for? And he kept saying, well, he's the president now. What that got to do with anything? Now he's running the drift as the president. That's why he's up.

But he still is up. It's Trump broke? He's still utilizing his position right? now, whether it's legal or illegal, to get to curry favor and people are just giving him gifts and money and crypto. No. I'm not saying it's right, but I'm just saying. That's a con artist.

I'm not saying it's right. You're running a con. But he's still up. They call him Don the con. That's literally his name. Whether or not it's a con, he's still up is what I'm saying. No. This generation has to stop thinking just being up by any means is a good thing.

It's the same thing as content over everything. I didn't say it's a good thing. I'm just saying that he is up. Whether it's legally, illegally, good or bad, he is up because right now he's manipulated the system to, hey, in order to curry favor or to be around me, you have to either give gifts, bend the knee, or like. But why is that something to be applauded? Because people feel like that's how America works.

Exactly. For white men. Exactly. And white men. And games point was, to your point, black people, remember he said, black people don't understand filing for bankruptcy and how you're going to. you're supposed to maneuver that. You're basically using it as a tool.

So his point is, if you look at what they're doing, they're doing it the right way. But he used Donald Trump as an example. That's not the example to use for that. Am I lying, Chris? Am I tributting it? I mean, I see what he's saying. I'm trying to think.

Did Elon Musk ever actually file for? I mean, there have been a lot of businessmen who've taken it really down close to the bone and almost lost everything and then came back up and that's part of their myth, their trajectory. this is not what that is in this case, though. Yeah. And by the way,

he's just good at perception. Right. Like, I would say the same thing if I was in him. I'd be like, look at Trump. He's declared bankruptcy. But these guys were playing with vast amounts of money and making these big bets and then bringing in money from other sources.

I don't think anybody is looking at Dame Def. I could be wrong. For his sake, I hope I'm wrong. I don't think if you're a business person out there in control of capital right now, you're looking at Dame Dafts on any of these shows and being like, that's a guy I want to invest money in right now. No.

You might want to invest in this podcast. I mean, it's incredible content. You might want to give him a platform and try to monetize it. But like in terms of real business, people don't want to deal with this shit. Yeah. And let me ask you this question. Has Donald Trump ever filed personal bankruptcy? Well, he kind of like...

I don't think he's ever fired personal bankruptcy. Is Dame... Has Dame bankruptcy is personal, right? What's Chapter 7? Yeah, I would have to... Because that's the difference, too. Personal bankruptcy and saying one of your businesses of bankrupt is a completely different thing, too. But I don't care.

I'm dumb. Listen, let's go back to the list, Chris. I'm not, let's go back to the- I want to hear about the house thing because that's the one that really cracked me up. Okay, love it. We're getting there, Chris. We got plenty of time. What's the next one?

We did coughing. We did coughing? Yeah. I want to talk about this. Let's play y'all in the coffin real quick. All right. This is fun. I didn't know I was going to have this much fun doing this post game.

There's no windows in here. This shit is Chris and the dog. We could open the- I look by the shirt. There's a curtain. We can lift me. Yeah, y'all in the behind the stage. The curtain?

You're in the coffin. I would never, this is uninspiring. It's dirty and all that shit. Your girl, you're cleaning shit up. Let me tell you something. That is not a coffin. Oh, he's hilarious. That is a, that's not a coffin.

That is a room that has given me so much life. Okay. I love it in there. All right. And by the way, that's the second room we built, all right? Like, we did one room that we built for 12. 12, 13 years, that room gave me life. Now we're in another room that we've been in for what,

three, four years now, I think. And that room gave me life. I love it in there. Once again, there is nothing wrong with having a career. Do you love what it is that you do? If you wake up every morning or you get up at three in the afternoon, whatever your schedule is, as long as you love what it is you do,

you are successful. That's why I always say success is subjective. Yeah. Because success is absolutely whatever you do that makes you happy. So even if you got a high-paying job and you wake up in the morning, but you hate it and you hate doing it, you're not successful. You know? I'm beyond successful because I enjoy being in the studio.

Can we also, can I ask your question? Because you do, you're an entrepreneur and you're successful at that, but then you also have jobs, right? Being an entrepreneur is not easy. It's not this like, I'm skipping through this value. of money. Absolutely. Why does, like, Dane Dash and people make entrepreneurship seem like this,

you unlock a new level of life? Well, he doesn't. It's hard. It's hard than working a job. One thing I do give Dame is Dane says bosses take losses. Yeah, that's his new series. He just won't never tell you how massive the loss is. But, you know, he does, he doesn't glamourize it like entrepreneurship is so easy.

You know what I mean? Like, he does show you that he's taking a L. I mean, we're watching them now. He's $25 million in debt. But he, no. But he's He's dressing that L up He's not like he's making it like

Oh you know what I mean This is cute That's what we do We do back repsy over here And then we move on We don't know It's funny that he told us In the interview

That he's not in debt no more Like yo you just filed Like that shit ain't go through yet Like what are you talking about But this is what I mean When you watch things after the fact Because you know

Shit moving fast It's like watching the game It's shit moving fast When you win it And you know And you're making your plays But then when you watch it back You're like oh shit

I ain't catch that I missed that foul Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. That morning, too, the attorney, Chris Brown, and he always talking about, have filed saying that, and we brought this up in an interview that they feel like

when he filed bankruptcy-wise, it's fraudulent because they think he actually has money somewhere. He just don't want to pay this stuff off. And even with that, he was like, that's not true. That attorney don't know what he's talking about. And I'm like, well, bankruptcy don't, I mean, you got to be approved. The debt has to be approved, right? That was the most, yes.

And that was the most, that's the most interesting from this interview. I know everybody's paying attention to the revolt. TV shit right now. We'll get to that. You know, that, you know, he's not really the chairman. But if you have filed bankruptcy and your whole thing is you don't have it, why are you in an interview basically saying you have it? But you got it over here, you got it over there, you put it over there, you put it over there. He literally goes, I got $5 million in the bank. Does that make me bro? I'm like, that's why you got under his skin so bad because it's like, he wants to talk his shit, but then he doesn't want to jam himself up by saying everything that

He got. He kind of already did, though. Yeah, but he keeps saying, oh, everything's, everything's in my family. Everything's in the family. Everything's in the family. You said the bankruptcy lawyers was hitting Lauren up. They still, like, he's been calling me still. Like, then he said.

Anything that was said, he can use and try and figure out, you know, because they, right now and they're going back and forth via documents. Like, here's what Damon is saying I don't have and here's what I owe. Here's what should be, like, wiped away. The attorney's like, uh-uh, nope. He's something I write. There's no way they should go through. The judge is like, show me everything you all have.

make a decision. So they're like, well, first thing they said when they called me, what did he say about the bankruptcy? I said, you just need to watch the interview. I don't want to be the third in the middle party of this. And then they say, yeah, well, we're going to watch it. Damn, Lauren's snitching out here. No, I'm not. I said leave me out of it. Where the wire, yo. No. Yeah. No, not. He said we're going to snitch. He said, we're going to fall. He said, y'all, you. I'm a little bit. I can tell. I can say everything. No, you're right. Because I don't got nothing to do with that. Exactly. A.L.L. Lauren over here. A. A. They said I'd be yapping.

Don't put me in no. What you, okay, let's say, my house is bigger than yours. They're the one you want, Chris. All right. I don't know. Okay, well, you make a lot of money? No.

So you've been doing this every day your whole life and you're not making no money? Nope. Like you, Dan. No, you're not like me. But you mean, you say you don't have, do you have a family office? I bet my house is bigger than yours.

I bet all my house is a big of money. I better have a better... How old are you, man. Now it's how old are you. That was hilarious. You're in Paris. Yeah, because I... That's when I'm like, okay, I'm talking about...

I like to see your view. Can you show me your view right now? Do you live in front of water? We're in my house? Yeah. A view of what you see when you relax when you're not here. And I thought he was gonna get y'all with that one. Well, not you, because you don't show nothing to nobody ever.

But I was like, envy about the pop... No, no, I had it to be prepared. Bro. No. I thought the Queens, the Macs, the Macs, the Macs, My car with my car was by the top audience. It's so bad. I'm like, please.

No, Envy, no, no, no. Not doing that. Nobody need to know. Talk about your trees. That's what I was with. He said he had the view. You know, but I got the trees. It don't even matter.

Like, stuff like that is silly. That's what I mean when I say people who lead with money. That's all you got is your money. That is corny to me. I'm never going to be that person. You're never going to make me ever be like, yo, look, look, you know what I'm saying? Like, we're not about to have that conversation.

But you forced him to do that because you said, you said you don't got money. No, I didn't. No, I didn't force him to do it. Everybody needs to go back and watch this interview with fresh out. I think he had to overcompensate because he stated that, oh, I don't have money. And then you pointed it out. You were like, you said, I don't have money the same way you, like you, you don't have money either. So now force him to be like, what you mean I don't got money?

I got da-da-da. So you like, you put him in after this. I know. It was an internal battle because it was a mirror. I had a mirror in there the whole time. Like literally, I'm Gavin Newsom, you, Donald Trump. Everything you do, I'm going to do and then bring to your attention to you that you're doing it. And then now you've got to deal with it.

Now you're looking at yourself like, what the fuck? You know what I'm saying? You called him gay and then. I didn't call him. No, I mean, he called you gay. And he's like, you have a problem with gay people? And he's just, like, you just kept jammed him up. That's true.

Listen, there's, baby, listen, there's a whole community that is pissed about that. part of the conversation. Oh, my God. Hold on. I was looking at my guy last thing. People are looking at it like it was homophobic and I'm like, because some people don't catch that as like, like we joke, I feel like in our community, we joke about a lot of things. Yeah. A lot of people don't think that stuff like that is funny. When you say things like men have to be out in order to be gay, they take that as you are based. Like there are men who live their life on the DL because they're in, they fear for their lives. So for you to say that, it's like you don't understand that men are harmed because they live a lifestyle and things that. It's, it's, it's,

There's a whole conversation and community, you know, that doesn't agree with that, right? And he's just off the fly jokingly saying what he's saying. But, like, I was seeing some videos yesterday. I went down a rabbit hole on TikTok, and there's a lot of people. Got a butthole. See, you're part of the community, so they're not going to mind you. Listen, I went down a butthole too, you know, because there was this one dude. I can't be in my wife was laughing at that shit last night.

Let me see if I can find home. Okay, the girls was upset. Oh, I will know. All types of, not even just black gay men, but like all, I've seen white gay men, black gay men, brown, like, people were upset. I'm like, I didn't even know Dane Dash's comments would reach this ethnic group. Yes, because it's the same thing as him using the girl as a slur. Like, you're a weaponizing gayness.

That's why I kept saying. That's why I asked him a simple question. What is your problem with gay people? I don't have a problem with gay people. I don't have a problem with guys that don't want to say that gay. What if it's none of your business? What if to your point there don't want nobody to know

because they feel like they're going to be harmed? Like that's just a silly way of thinking, right? If I bring up gay, you should just be quiet. Don't you. He felt right into them. Now, this is one too. This is the video I was talking about. It's number, no, the young lady.

Her name is, um... She's going to say, yeah. Now, listen, I want, her name is, um, because I've watched some of her stuff before. Her name is Miss... Yeah, one madam president. I watch some of her stuff. People will be sending me some of her stuff.

Start it back from the beginning. Because I want to talk about this. Start it back from the beginning. Now, let me set the context, though. One Madam President did a video, and she put, it was about Damon Dash interviews and Ben Shapiro's interviews and Breakfast Club's approach to each one.

Let's listen to it. Okay, so sometimes you have to ask yourself, why do you demean, dislike, and disrespect anything that looks like you? Well, you have to ask a business. breakfast club for sure. Because Ben Shapiro gets on the breakfast club to explain how to debate productively across opposing views. Meanwhile, Dane Dash gets fact-checked, laughed at, and question about whether he's even a part of revolt. This is the psychological sickness that's

eating black culture alive. Ben Shapiro, a man who built his entire career on opposing black interests, arguing against systemic racism, promoting policies that are against black communities, He gets treated with deference and respect for his intellectual approach. But Dane Dash, who literally created Rockefeller Records, launched careers, preached black ownership for decades, built billion-dollar brands from nothing, gets interrogated like everything he says is a lie. We give white voices credibility they never even earned, while fact-checking black pioneers who actually built something.

This is about a historical pattern. We've been doing this since Elvis Stowe. from black artists since rock and roll got white wash, since jazz got repackaged for white consumption, black culture creates white culture profits. And somehow we end up respecting the thieves more than

we respect the originators. Dame Dash represents black ownership and the industry built on stealing from it. And instead of protecting him, we question his legitimacy while giving white voices platforms to explain why they deserve respect. I know you're going to say, well, Dame

Dash, you know he said this and that. and I'm not here to negate that. But I want to say agreement is not a requirement for respect, and they've proved that with Shapiro. They disagreed with his politics, but respected his right to explain his position without interruption, without laughing, and without fact-checking. Dame Dash is a part of the historical side of hip-hop, no matter if we give him credit or not.

But we teach black people to question black anything while accepting white authority as true. We got to remember those kids in the doll test, the ones who react, which doll is ugly, which doll is dumb? And they pointed to the black doll. Yeah. Well, those kids grew up. They're adults now.

They're voting. They're hiring. They're teaching. They're working at corporations and still pointing at the black doll. Except now the doll is you. I'm Madam President with a Z and I'm 100% politically incorrect. And if you know this is to be true, comment true. I want you to be a part of my community.

flew through one Madam President. I watch her delivery was... I watched a lot of her. She's really good. I love black women. What's your thoughts? I think number one, I don't know. We talked about this in the beginning of interview.

I have a respect for Dame Dash, but I do think energy matters. And I think the energy he came in with y'all, the way he tried to set the tone in the room and this and that and the third. I think if he had done the same room setting but didn't come off like he was trying to son y'all or like, Y'all work for him. The moon would have went a little different. I think that that was a big part of it. And I think Ben Shapiro in that interview, it was just, you didn't feel that. Like, it was just a...

It's really that simple. Like, yes, you know, of course, you know, there's a lot of things I disagree with Ben Shapiro on. But Ben Shapiro didn't come in the room and call us stupid. Ben Shapiro didn't come in the room and call us gay. Ben Shapiro didn't come in the room and threaten the punches in the face. Ben Shapiro didn't come in the room and call us federal informants. Ben Shapiro didn't come in the room and tell us our room ain't shit and it's dirty. stuck in a coffin. Like, people are acting like we just caused Dame to act like that. No,

Dame came in there on that type of time. The man called us stupid within five, ten minutes after he asked us the question about the loan shit, the $180 million. That's because you're dumb. That's because you're stupid. I gave Dame a lot of grace and a lot of respect and a lot of reverence. You know what I'm saying? Let him get his shit off before I went there. You think Ben Shapiro would ever did that and I would have just sat there and let Ben Shapiro get that shit off. Nope. No, I don't think. And in a conversation with Ben Shapiro, the things that I've, you know, pushed back on, I wanted to push back on, we pushed back on and we had conversations about it. And then guess what? Two days later, Maddie Hassan was in there. And Madi Hassan

was in there smoking shit. And Medi Hassan wanted to reply to some of Shapiro's points. So my whole thing, when I see people do videos like that, it's like, it's kind of like you're just trying to create a narrative of Breakfast Club that don't really exist because we have so many super duper respectful conversations with, of course, with black people. It's been 15 years. But Ben Shapiro comes on and we have a conversation with him. Once again, the things we want to push back on, we push back on. The things that, you know, we might not be that well versed on, hey, okay, he said them. We're listening. Just like when Medi Hassan comes on, I'm listening to Maddie Hassan. I went Jasmine Crocket comes on. I'm listening to Jasmine Crockett.

If it's something that I personally am like, nah, I'm not with that. Nah, that don't sound right. I'm going to call it out. But to compare Dame Dash to Ben Shapiro. You can't compare Dame Dash to nobody. I was about to say, too. I think the performance factor is a little different. A little? A lot of different. But Ben Shapiro, I will say this. Even though the tone is different, the energy is different, he knows what the hell he'd be doing. Like, he know how to hit the points that get you. Even when he was talking to me about, about the abortion conversation.

And he was sticking to his points. It was very like fact this, fact that, and asking questions, I'm like, I can't emotionally, because he was getting me a little bit. Because emotionally as a woman, he knows how to talk to me about abortion in a way that, like, disarms me, but also pisses me off. So then I lose what I'm saying. It's the same thing that. It was just a religious aspect.

But it, but that, you know your trigger points when you're in a room. Dame Dash is the same way. He just goes about his trigger points differently. He knew to bring up RICO or whatever, the real estate stuff, when it came to end. He knew to bring up, or he tried to bring up money or like whatever with you because you don't showcase anything. So he's assuming you don't have it because you don't. No, you came at me with the gay. In the gay, well, yeah.

I knowing that I play gay all day. You don't be playing. No, that's why you. That's why. I like playing. I like play gay games. Like, it's fun to me. Oh, which ones do you be playing?

It's just hilarious. Like, maybe a mold of an ass. Like, you're not going to. Have you ever did poppers? What is a popper? Okay. You ain't that gay. The fuck is a pop.

It's like a little thing that, you know, you take the girls that get it, get it. It's like a little thing you take. It's like a sexual thing. But it's in the community. If you get that far, call me before you start. Okay? I got some homies. I got some my girls that could walk you through it if you get that far.

But I think, no, but my point is, though, is that there's a very, there's a very stark difference. But I don't want that to come off as, because that, it can, when you say that, that can sound like, remember the lady that was interviewing Magna's eye? She was like, your music just makes me want to fight and people were pissed off. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, what she, I believe she meant? is the energy brings you up, but because Magdalian is black, you take it as a disparaging thing.

I'm not saying that because Dame Dashby Rowdy black men or rowdy and they deserve whatever, whatever. But there's a difference in the energy. And that would have happened if Ben Shapiro or if there was a black talk of the head. Because Candace Owens, y'all didn't drag her like people wanted y'all to. I like having conversation.

And if we disagree in the conversation, then we're going to disagree and we're going to have that conversation right then and then. But I like having conversations with people. I like having conversations with people that I don't agree with. I like having conversations with people who have totally different ideologies to me. Because sometimes I hear things and I'm like, oh, okay. And I learn things, you know what I?

Like, I have no problem doing that. And, you know, Dame posted this video. He posted that video of one Madam President. And I'm like, dang, don't try to play victim. Because there's one thing that she said in there that she was like, you know, I know y'all going to say Dame said this and Dame said that. And, you know, we can't negate, I can't negate that. No, no, you can't.

That's the main thing. If he would have came in with respect, you would have shown him respect. I told him in the interview, I'm giving you the same respect that you're giving the room. I said that to him. It's the Dane Dash. In fact, I'm telling you because I always am, like when I reported the whole revolt thing, people right now are still in my comments like, you are tearing down the black man. This is Dame Dash.

You understand what he did for culture. You wouldn't have a job at Breakfast Club. There wouldn't be black culture. That's not true. All this stuff. Like they are, when I say, the Dame Dash bots is there. That's not true. But it's because there's still.

I'll say that about Russell Simmons before. I definitely would say that about somebody like Russell Simmons. But there are people who believe that because of what Dame Dash was a part of back then and what he built back then, he deserves that you, I'm going to roll out the red carpet, OG, you do and say as you please. Because we're brought up that way in our households. You don't, you don't disrespect the elders and the people that you don't do that. My grandma can be wrong. I wish I would be like... It's different with grandma them.

You ain't letting the uncle do that to you. Who not? Me? I can't say nothing to my uncle. Oh, they come a point in time, you know, as a human that has a dick. Oh, you know what I mean? Now I'm saying,

that's a human who got a dick. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're not going to let your father or your uncle. You're going to have a certain amount of respect, but, yo, I'm a man, too, at the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna let certain, I'm gonna let you get to a certain point, but it's just like, eh?

And I don't even think you have to take that approach. You know how you just said you wouldn't talk back to your uncle like that? You wouldn't also let your uncle disrespect you. So you would probably check out of the conversation before you say something back. He's not going to get up and walk out of his own interview. So he's going to address and give him the same energy that he's giving it. One Madam President, you know you would not let nobody play with you like that. Oh, the way she were.

Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. I got watch your video. It's like, I'm like, well, I need to subscribe to her on TikTok because she could help me get my own shit together. And I understand. Like, did they big one? I'm looking at her. I'm like, damn, I'm illiterate.

Like, she is, she's fire. Like, she just flow. And I understand what she's saying. But it's just like, yo, I think I'm pretty equal opportunity everything. I'm equal opportunity bullshit with people. And I'm equal opportunity respect with people. I agree. Question based on what you said.

Because I agree with you what you say about Russell being the real. Absolutely. Where would you put to him? Would you put him in a category? historically I'm talking now. Maybe with like a baby and a masterpiece on that level. I mean, it's the thing, all of these guys are some of the greatest moguls we've ever seen. That's what I'm saying.

They're definitely. Oh, absolutely. Like, like, you talking about hip-hop moguls for me, I'll just say music moguls. For me, it's my personal. I get Russell the most credit because he did it first. Russell and Andre Horel. They created the blueprint. Russell Simmons and Andre Horell created the blueprint to me when they,

comes to hip-hop and R&B. Now, of course you can talk about Barry Gordy then, but that was the Motown era, but I'm talking about for the era that I came up in, the era that I fell in love with, like it was Russell Simmons with Def Jam, Andre Harrell with Uptown Records.

And then, you know, as time went on, Diddy with Bad Boy, and Jay Z, Biggs, and Dame Dash with Rockefeller. And then it was Master P, and then it was Baby, and I throw Jay Prince in there in that mix as well. But them the ones to me, But think about all the people you just named, right?

Oh, and I missed one. Shug Night and Defroll Records. Okay. That's the seven to me. It's Russell Simmons, Russell Simmons with Def Jam, Andre Herald with Uptown Records, Diddy with Bad Boy, Jay Z Biggs and Dame with Rockefeller,

MasterP with No Limit, Jay Prince with Rapalot, and Shug Night with Def Roe. That's the seven to me. That's the, seven is God's number. Those, that's the God... Did you say Birdman? Yeah.

Oh, you said Burmeman. That's the, those are the God label to me. Did I say Burman? I think I put Burman in that mix. Did that? I don't even mention if not it's 8th, which is going back. Who is it? Colchilling. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were on that level for a minute. Who's Colchette? I don't know who that is. It was Marley Marl. It was Big Daddy King, Bithmore Key, Cool, Girat. Oh, okay. In mid to late 80s, they were also kind of. Let me get this right. When they, when they clip this, I want to make sure I said all the right name.

Russell Simmons with Def Jam, Andre Harrell with uptime records. Matter of fact, Andre is my favorite out of all of them. Um, Russell Simmons with Def Jam, Andre Harrell with Uptown, Diddy with Bad Boy, Jay Damon Biggs with Rockefeller, Master P with No Limit, Birdman, Cash Money, Birdman is Slim, Jay Prince would rap a lot. Oh, in Def Roads, so it was eight. Yeah. Eight. Some people would, I don't think he has the breadth of artists, but would also put Uncle Lou in. Oh, my God, shit. You have to. You have to. You have to. You have to. But I don't look at Luke. is the label.

I look at Luke and Tulive True as a group. But you're right, though. He wasn't the label. No, you're right. You're right. You're right. God. Yeah, I should have artists and sound and a...

Come on. People say Jermaine Depp. If you're talking about So So So Depp. I think you get... But that's, you get... He's younger than... Right. He's younger than all of them.

No, no. Actually not. Hell no. Yeah, So So So So Deft was way... So So So So Deft was actually before all of them in a lot of women. Right, sure. Chris Cross. Way before it is.

Yes. Yeah, dang. Hold on. So we got to do a top 10. Yeah. You got to put Jermaine Dupre in there. Would Ghostface be in there? Not Ghostface.

Ah, fuck. Riz. Nah, because Rizzo. No, no, not. Damn. Guy in Houston. Scarface. Well, that's J.

Frank. That's rap a lot. Oh, dear. He was under. Yeah, that's rap a lot. Yeah, that's rap a lot. That, yeah, you got to put Jermaine Dupri in there at top 10 for so, so deaf. You got to.

Who would be the 10? You just said 10. And I said, that's nine. That was nine. When you had Jermaine to the eight I did, that's nine. I mean, I guess you would have to put Uncle Luke with Luke records, but I feel like would Dr. Dre aftermath? That's the new era.

That's the new way. Is it, though? To me, to me, Aftermath, TDE. That's like, because that's after all of those guys. All of those guys were already established and everything by the time Aftermath came around. Yeah, but Eminem and Jay-Z was same time. but that's because he started the label after Matt, but I'm saying that's after,

that was literally after all of these guys' waves. All of these guys have shown us the blueprint in some way, shape, or form. These 10 that I named, every single label that came after them got some of their DNA. Oh, okay, okay. Like, these are like the foundation,

the pillars of, like, just hip-hop as far as, like, music moguls are concerned, to me anyway. But that's the, that's the, what you just did and put in Dame on that list, right? Like, think about that list that you just said, And think about Dame Dash, in the conversation we just had with him, that's what one Madam President is. She's looking at that list.

She's looking at Dame in that. Nobody else on that list acts like Dan. Exactly. But I'm saying people still, there's a reverence for you. What Birdman did when you can't. Maybe it's me. No, but Birdman, even. You know, maybe that's me.

You're right, man, one Madam President, maybe it is. Yeah, I mean. You're right. Nigger, when my name come up, respect it. Let's go. Stop playing with my fucking name. All drill, y'all. Stop playing with my name.

I ain't going to say it. No more. Put some respect on my name. You understand me? When y'all saying my name, put some respect on. Luke's at his moments. Who? Uncle Luke's at his moment.

Yeah, but I'm saying Birdman had came in there with me. Oh. Yeah, Luke never. But Birdman wasn't all jokey, jokey. I'm taking my sneakers off. Batsy-pid can check me once, but he bathsaping you know I got mad respect for him. But the check is a little bit different. The energy, it was still very much, like, you're not going to play with me, but it was very different.

Berman came in there with smoke. I believe, Berman, I was, I fear for you. But you be, yo, you be shining your ground. So cool. The Beanie singing. You know how many times I've watched that and been like, it could have been over for Charlamie in this moment. Wait, what, wait.

With the interaction with you being a sequel, you're in the studio, it's an old studio. I don't be worried. I told you there's only one person ever in the history of breakfast club that made me feel like, yo, this is going to be a situation. Like, and that was Nelly. Like, none of that, like, none of these, like, none of that other stuff, like, Nellie is the only one. I'm like, oh, man, this is going to be, this is tough.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, Nelly is shaped And he was calm. Like, all that rar-rah shit is not like, and I love beans, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, you're talking about what, because I think Mark asked me that early. He's like, you don't be intimidated?

Like, no. You know what I'm saying? Like Nellie was the only one that's just like, I've only felt like that one, and by the way, I've only felt like that one other time in my whole radio career, period. And that was, the other time was the first time I ever met Gucci Man.

Oh, old Gucci Man. Oh, Gucci. I was doing radio in Columbia, South Carolina at Hot 103.9. And I'm sitting in the studio. And whoever was driving Gucci comes in the studio before Gucci and goes, yo, man, Gucci was talking. Cad shit about GZ on the way here. And I was like talking shit about GZi.

Huh? Like, they got records together and shit like that. It was before anything. He was like, yes. And so Gucci walks in. Gucci had on a red bandana, some jeans shorts. and like a red shirt with a collar, like a polo type shirt.

And I said, man, what you doing talking shit about, you know, we're on the air, what you doing, talking shit about cheesy? You know what I mean? Y'all got records together. He looked at me and said, man, cheesy ain't real, man. You know, you know, bitchy-ass, thing, and all this. We on the air, right?

And just something said to me in that moment. Leave him the fuck alone. There's just something just, in that most of him saying. I just looked in his eyes and leave. him alone. He's gone about your business, whatever, whatever. And then that night, we went to, Gucci performed that Club New Vibe and Summit to South Carolina,

and he did the GZ disc record. I forgot, which I think that's the one where he said, if I don't, if I don't something, something, I'm going to catch coach. I forgot what the name of that record was. But he did the dish record. And my man D. Nights was DJ Farenheit's cousin. He's DJ Ferenice cousin, flew to D. Nice and Farronite. And D. N.E.N.C. Call, Ferenheit.

I was like, yo, Gucci is this cheese. in the club, blah, blah, blah, this and that. And then that's when the whole next thing you know, a week later, State scrap came out and all that shit happened. Y, you know, what you're with your little milk dud, Hannah. Like, they just, he'd be with, yo, something about you.

Maybe it's, he's been seeing it for you because it's a lot of times where people should have. Well, but I think another reason that I come from that. Like, I grew up around some wild motherfuckers. Like, I know what that looks like. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can recognize.

I know, I know what it looks like. like with from from the perspective of a Gucci, the whole spectrum from the perspective of a Gucci, there's somebody like a Nelly. Oh, you think you're going to play with him because he's pretty. Oh, that's what you think, huh? Okay, all right. Same type of energy. All right. And they're going to see about your issue. If you got some shit going on and you want to play with them, they're going going to see about your issue. But my thing is this, I'm also not afraid to get beat up. That's happened to me in my life, too. Like, it's like, but I've been way before. for a breakfast guy. I took a couple of good

ass kickings in my life now. That's the people I respect. The people who take some ass kickings and keep on motherfucking talking even after the ass kicking. Those are the type of people I respect. So yeah, I don't want some and I don't lost something. It's just at the end So you see what Dan was talking about when he was like, why you run? You take the, you know,

you get beat up and you just You don't know who you're running from, which was my response to that thing. You're in a club and you're beefing with people. You know who you're dealing with. If people just roll on you on the street, you don't have any context. It's four o'clock in the morning.

You don't know who there. It's like if somebody wakes up at five o'clock in the morning to jump you, they got a plan. You're going to sit there and let their plan go through it. There's a plan. Anybody come to your house definitely got something going to me. You don't know if they got weapons. You don't know like that.

You don't go out of my house without no weapon. One runs up on you with a camera. The other comes up behind you. By the way, and I've told this story before, they lined it up even the day before. The day before I walked. I didn't park in the parking lot. I had got dropped off to the front of the building. And so I had walked in the building.

And somebody came in there with a camera like, yo, yo, yo, y'all, man, let me get a drop. So they were scoping the scene to see you how this shit works. They might have been doing that shit for a few days. But no, okay, he walks from the parking lot to the building every day, right? And that's what happened. So it's like, yo, do we run up on you with a camera?

That's why I stated the camera, yo, what's stuff with y'all in these drops? Because the guy had already been there And the table I've been doing this all week Y'all back again You're back and fucking again And then do hit me in the back of the head

Hey it is I'm not standing around To let y'all plan go through That's why because okay I mean I saw the videos But now understanding The talk through of it That's why at court You used to always

I'm like you're making me nervous She's like you need to be out there with You shouldn't just be outside the court And people are running up on you I'm like you're making me nervous Charlotte But I get it PTSD

Yes and that was the second time The second time I got jumping There was a video of that, but it was just like, I didn't get jumped. This dude tried to fight me in the drugstore across the street. Oh, that's the one you threw. I thought it was atm. Yeah, I went to the drugstore to use the ATM.

Went to the drugstore to use the ATM. I'm coming out to ATM, this dude swung on me. Ask, as Envy how that went. Did you knock him out? Ask G. Ask G.spin how that went. You know what I'm saying? Asked the admission how that went.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Because there was a video. And if I cared about shit like that, if my ego, you know, made me say, you know what, I got to prove to people that I'm tough, I could easily put that video up. I really don't, I don't care about shit like that. Like, my, I do not lead with ego. And that's what I want people to take away from interviews like this Dame Dash interview. Do not lead with ego. Do not let your pride cause you to jump out there and say things like, you.

You're the new chairman of a revolt and you're about to buy you. Like, to me, I thought that was stupid that he was prideful that he took on 30 guys. Like, that's just stupid. If he would have lost his life, we all would have been like, dumbass, why the fuck you going to stop and fight 30 people? But sometimes that's what people come from because I know people that literally, like, they not walk. Like, I know people right now, you could be one person. You roll up on them trying to rob them. They will tell you, you're going to have to kill me.

Like, there are people, and it might be stupid. It might be, but I'm saying there are people who are raised. and by certain things that you're never going to convince them as dumb. It's nothing you can do. But that's that you have to eventually grow up and mature. Like, we can't just keep. But the grow up and mature is different for you or Charlemagne or whatever. Like, I literally have homies right now where I'm from that what we talk about right now,

they're like, oh, yeah, you're awesome bitches. Like, it's not, but because their grow up is different. What have they experienced? That's how they live their life. And neither one of y'all are wrong. But what Alex is saying, if you do beat up 30 people, you should brag about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's one thing to be like, oh, they could have killed you. They didn't. You know what I'm saying? If you came out unscathed and you got the best of, which I don't believe it was 30 people, like, but whatever. If you do get the best of these individuals, yeah, you should talk shit about it, but that's not nothing to brag and tell other people that situation is going in for them in that way. Yeah.

How old were you when they, when all the people tried to jump on you? Oh, yeah, was that? Probably like 10 years ago, 12 years ago? No, longer than that. You've been doing a rapist school 15? Oh, so you were like 30? Was in your 30s? Yeah.

I'm just saying because you're kids, brother. Yeah. I'm not the answer. Yeah. My daughter, I had a kid. Get out of it. Yeah. I'm getting the fuck out of it.

Your sprint was just good. I don't know. Could you still sprint like that? You get under there right now? Easy. It was just a little light jog. I jogged off. Then the car came and I turned around and I assessed the situation.

Oh, there's two motherfuckers over there. Two motherfuckers over there. Maybe one day you get that look back. Skaddle. That's called a skedaddle. You know what's so funny? If somebody was smart, y'all internet motherfuckers ain't smart, you should go get Jay Z's reaction to that

and then Tame Das's reaction and put them together. Go back and watch Jay Z's interview on Breakfast Club. Jay Z had a reaction. Jay Z laughed at that video a lot. He laughed at that video a lot, okay? But he also said that gave him some really unique insights into my personality and the way that I think. When you said Shaleman getting chased outside the building,

did you laugh? That was pretty funny. That was, I laughed really hard. Listen, you got to see the other video. It's another video. There's no other video. No, no, no. Some cats tried to get me in the store and this is a surveillance video.

No, one guy. The one thing I liked about it, I mean, because you can't help that. If something's probably just run up on you and knock you inside your head, you know what I mean, it just. I'm shocked. I'm starting. I know. That is what it is. That can happen to anybody.

The way you, but you saw it coming. He's seen it? That was a good thing. I saw. I was like, okay. That was, you know, little nuances. your personality. You saw it, you knew that thing was coming. And he was genuine. You know what gave it away, though?

The camera. It's a world star error. Like, nothing's good is going to come with this situation. Right. I'm getting out of here. I'm not letting these guys plan go through. Dame Dash lied about being chairman. Have we got any corrections on this yet? As far as what?

Just in general. I know he, this is what he said on, okay, so CEO, Revote CEO confirms let me see the headline, Chris? Yeah, Revote CEO confirms Dame Dash is not the chairman of company, there is no acquisition path on the table. I don't know why Dames, well, I do know why Dames said this. Dames said this is because he was trying to get one up on camp, which is, it's never that serious. Which is crazy. Go ahead. It's never that serious.

That's his man. Why would you want to do that to your men? Well, they're beefing right now. Yeah, they ain't Dane in the best side. It's not real. It's not beef, but they're going back and forth right now. And I think that the one thing I will say that I, that Dame is not admitting, I don't think. His feelings are hurt. And if that's your man, like that's your guy, that was your young dude, he was with you all the time, you showed him the ropes, you know, you put him in positions in a lot of ways, you know, and now y'all got an issue, he's going to feel the way.

But it goes back to what we were talking about earlier, you're not going to keep playing with me, Unk. I'm a grown-ass man now too. Yeah, I feel that. That's what camera. That camera's like, yo, you ain't that no more. Like, you can't beat me in a 40-yard dash. You should play the one where he in the kitchen.

Oh, yeah. Go to the one where he's in the kitchen. Right? That one. That one. Yeah, that one, Chris. Nah, no, no, no, bro. I ain't know you'd be lying like this, bro.

I ain't know you'd be lying like this. Yo, it's sad. They told me, but, you know, when a nigga, yeah, man, you don't pay attention to a lot of shit. I didn't know, bro, that you're a flagrant line like this, man. Now, look, talk with me. Come on tomorrow 5 p.m. on reverse YouTube. But that was shit that he talked about last me.

So part two will be out this Friday on Revolt YouTube about what you talk about this week. But I'll say this one thing. This is what I was saying. The nigger called Revolt last week and say he wants to put his content on Revolt channel. Revolt programming is booked up until 2026. They don't have any room for programming. So maybe in 2026 or whatever. So I have two more shows I could do this year.

And so when I found. that out. I called my man Fendi, because I know with Fendi and Dan speak. I say, Yo, tell, Deng, I put his shows on my slot on Revolt, because I have two more shows I can put on Revolve. If I can executive produce the shows. I say he did it for me. When I needed help, he put his album, he put my albums out of Rockefeller, and I let him make executive producer. I'm trying to do the same thing for you. I got two slots left. If you want two shows on revolt this year and you wasn't getting paid because you said you do it for free.

I got a couple dollars for you. I'm just the executive producer of the show. He tells Fendi. First he tells Fendi, yeah, he's like, how he back? Now, matter of fact, fuck that. I'm the Godfather. He can't produce, executive to produce my shows. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Dane. Their own guy kids don't want you.

How are you the Godfather? Anything. Your word don't count no more. You don't got teeth. You have dentures. Your word don't mean nothing. You fell off the Mount Rushmore and Harlem. A long time But we'll address it all tomorrow and Friday. But don't say I ain't trying to help out. You didn't want me executive producer of TV shows.

Could have walked her right in for you. See tomorrow. Talk with Flea, Nick. If you're dame, you're not taking that, though. Even if he would humble himself and put the ego to the side in the midst of what they got going on, you're not doing that. You wouldn't even do that, Sharlemagne. Do what? Like, if you are going back and forth with somebody and you are trying to get content somewhere, they can walk you right in the door.

you're not, you're not going through them. It's just, because I feel like there's principle as a man and there's a lot of ego with y'all men that your ego wouldn't even allow you as a man to take that hand. Like that's not even a Dame Dash thing. That's not a Dane Dash thing. That's a male ego thing.

Like, it's not happening. Oh, no. Say that again. Hold on. Say that again? So I'm saying, Dame Dash saying, that's not happening. I'm not doing that, right? That's not just a Damed Dash thing. Now I'm the Godfather, that's a Damed Dax thing. But him saying no to that.

I think that's just a male ego thing. Well, that's corny. And not only is it corny. You wouldn't do that. No, no, no. It's corny, and it goes against a lot of what Dame has taught us. What was one of Jay Z's favorite lines, I mean, famous lines, that Dame reiterated to DJ Clues crew in backstage. If everybody in your click is rich, your click is rugged.

Nobody will fall so everybody will be each other's crutches. I'm happy that my young boy is in a situation now to where he can bring me. into a TV network? Why would I ever let my ego get in the way of that? The same way I looked out for him when I was in position and got him in position, I'm happy that he's in position now and can look out for me.

If stuff was good. But if it's your young boy that you're going back and forth with and you know what I'm saying, like you just saw what Cameron did with the gooding, you know, that whole situation and the fake movie and you just don't know what you're walking into. So you don't want Cam to do that to you.

so much so that you'll come on Breakfast Club and lie about being the chairman of Revolt to pretend to be Cam's boss? That's the same thing. I'm just talking about the overall. Now, that's a thing. That's the head trauma from getting jumped in Paris that way.

That's insanity to me. But to answer you, no, I don't care who it is. Like, that's what you're supposed to do. That's one thing where you cat a little bit. Why? Because if you're not on a good page with somebody, and you know that even though if they can plug you into something and you could probably get yourself in that door yourself,

you're not going to want that person that you're not on a good page with to be executive producer of your show if you feel you can do it yourself. Put in the door. That's the whole point. There weren't enough slots. Cam had two slots. That's what Cam is claiming. But I think, you know.

I don't know, man. And business life is about, to me, it's about opportunity and leverage. That's right. That's all it is. If you don't have the leverage, then you can take the opportunity. And you use the opportunity to create the opportunity to create. the leverage and then once you have it, then you go forth with it. There's no permanent friends on enemies when it comes to business.

And like there's plenty of people that I might not. Don't get me wrong, there's people I just would choose not to fuck with because of their energy. But even if I don't fuck with you that much, but I'm like, yo, you know what, that person is super talented and that is a great idea. Yeah. If I can make it happen, I'm going to make it happen. You've made money together in the past. Huh?

And they've made money together in the past. Absolutely. Where did their beef start? I miss that. Harlem. I don't fucking know I have no idea that also depends on it

like how All I remember is All I remember And it probably was before this is Dane Dash getting upset About Cameron Speaking about the money stuff Like the things that he was dealing

With money wise And then that kind of started the responses But then there was something like He was upset that he was sitting with Mace And then the 50 thing came in I just remember the money thing That was the first time I caught wind of it Like okay

Everybody talks about Dame and money and Kim's on a platform now You know what I mean? So it's... And I will say too, man, something else Cam said in there that's very true

when it comes to the old G's like they're going to the young boys are going to respect you or young men are going to respect you until they feel like you're not respecting yourself because he's like,

you ain't even got no teeth. You know what I mean? Like, for real. Like you know, you love your uncle, you love your pops. But if you're your pops on dope and they start looking bad, you're going to feel bad for

a minute, but if they start looking bad and then still treating everybody around them bad and acting like everybody ain't shit, you're going to have something to say. You know, so if you're an OG, man, the best thing you can do is keep yourself looking healthy, keep yourself looking good, make sure that you got, you know, something going on in your life, right? Like, so people don't ever look at you like, yo, you don't got nothing, nothing to offer us anymore. Like, nothing. Like, people don't, that's the worst position to be in. To be an OG who's done so much, but now people don't even want to hear from you no more. But it's crazy because there are people who still want to hear from Dame Dash.

I still want to hear from Dame Dash strictly entertainment purposes. I like him for comedy. I would like for him to grow up and become the Dame Dash. He used to be in just a mature fashion. I know a lot of... You can't, that's a total country. That's oxymor. You can't be the Dame Dash

you used to be. I mean, the type of moves he was making before, but just... Like, you want to hear him talk business and like, but be mature. about it and not be what we see right now. Exactly. You would learn from him at that point. Yeah.

But Dame accomplished a lot by being headstrong and confident and arrogant and cocky, right? Like that was the secret weapon in all those moments. No, you know what Dave's real secret weapon was? Being aligned with a great rap. Relationships. Yeah. And what does he not have right now? Relationships.

Relationships has always been Dame's greatest scrimp. Kanye West, Jay-Z, like all the artists on Rockabell, the stuff he was doing in the Clovering world, like his relationships. He talks about building a hundred million dollar business with his ex-wife, Raise Right. Relationships. And that's cool. Like, you need somebody who has the talent and somebody who can motherfucking, you know,

going there and amplify that talent, whether it's going in these corporate boardrooms and yelling this, whatever the fuck it is. You just need that. But all I'm simply saying is there's a lot of individuals that were aligned with him that kept going. That was so crazy. He needs good, he needs relationships. Damn, you need relationships. chips. Like, I'm listening to Dan talk. I'm like, damn, Dave, I could have got you a book deal with Simon & Schuster. I got a book imprint. No, but you know what's crazy when he

said that? I'm like, it's so insane because, like, you are, at this point, you're the brand ambassador for Simon and Schuster. Well, no, not true. And your imprint, yes. When people think, there's a certain community of people that only know of them because of you. And the books that you brought through your imprint. Well, I want to salute Charles. Yes, and Charles as well. Because, you know, me and Charles do what we do as far as, you know, culture up there at Simon issues. But like, yeah, I could have, we could, I could have got Dame a book them. Would you have done it, though? If Dane reached out to you, no interview like this and say,

yo, this is what I'm trying to do, blah, blah, blah, would you have made the phone call? Because I don't think you would have. Would I have, yes. I'll tell you something. There was a time where I was, I was like, damn, Dane would be very interesting to do X, Y, and Z with. And one of my partners was like, absolutely not. Like, absolutely not. No. Like, he's absolutely not.

I don't want nothing to do with it. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, all right, cool, you know what I'm saying? Like, I out of respect because, you know, I'm like, all right. Because I would, if I felt that strongly about something, I would want my father to feel the same way. So my point is, you know, there is certain bridges that he's already burnt that don't got nothing to do with me.

So would I have made that phone call? The reason I hesitated when you said that is simply because I thought. about, you know, that person when that person said that to me. But for a book, I probably would have because it's like, you don't have to be hands-on with a book. That's how Damie starts about passing the plug. That's just passing the plug.

Even if I didn't want it on Black Privile Publishing, I'm like, yo, Simon & Schuster, this guy right here got an amazing story. Yeah. You know, y'all should do something with him. The only reason why I said, I didn't think you would, not that you would hate on it, but because you can't control

how he deals with them once you pass it. That's the problem. And that is like, that's a scary thing. That's the problem. That right. That's the problem. What Lauren said is absolutely true. See, when you, when you pass the plug to certain people, when they go in there and then the people that you pass to have a very bad experience. Now they're looking at you like, yo, what's up? And that fucks up the next person, you co-sign. So what Lauren is saying is very, very true. That's why you really got to watch how people treat others because you'll know how they will have been. eventually treat everybody. The way somebody treats you

or the way somebody treats other people, eventually it's going to be your turn. So why would you pass that energy onto somebody else knowing what's going to happen, man? But, Dame, I hope you heal. And, you know, until next time. Okay? Until next time.

You know, maybe I don't know if I'll be on Breakfast Club in another 10 years because it's been 10 years. Wow. But no, actually, this is his third time on breakfast club? Yeah, I thought it was five. No. That Dame Dash interview was a decade ago. Oh, really?

Absolutely. Oh, shit. I was like 2014, 2015. When was the first name of that you were? My son sells cookies. All right. That was the one. That was like a decade ago.

Easy. Ten years ago. Yeah. Yeah. He came to Breakfast Club one other time after that, but it was uneventful. But yes. Yeah, 10 years. That was 10 years ago.

Let's pay some bills, man. Now it's time for church announcements. You got any church announcements, L.L. Kubei? You know, just keep listening to the podcast. The latest with Lauren the Rosa. Oh, oh, the podcast, yes, everywhere you get your podcast. But Delaware State University alumni homecoming party. I do a party every year.

This year, it's October 10th. It's in Wilmington, Delaware. Charlottoman, you come to Delaware? No. Where are you going to come? I don't know. I'm not going to lie to you. I like Delaware, though.

I'm not, when is it? You ain't going to come. Don't ask me when it is. No, you're not coming. No, I'm not coming to this. It's October 10th. It's Friday, October 10th. We're doing the Delaware State University.

alumni homecoming party is to kick off to Delaware State University's homecoming weekend. I'll be hosting it. Please come out and have a good time with me. And you don't got to be DELState alumni to attend, but you do got to be alumni or of a certain age. Okay, don't come. Is there a website or something they can go do? Yes, so you can get your tickets at, y'all just follow me on Instagram. Go to Lauren LaRosa on Instagram.

I'm posting it and posting the link. We back outside on Instagram if y'all want to come and party and experience Delaware because they be hating on us. And Delaware is really lit. We got a lot going on. We got Don't Call Me White Girl. Shout out to Mota. Yes. Saluta, don't call me white girl.

She's from Philly, but like she's from Delaware. We got Sukihana. Shout out to Sukihana. Oh, yeah. Shout out to Shuki. Yeah, we got patience. Patience. Salute to patience.

Yep, I'm there. Joe Biden. Hunter. Hunter. Oh, you know, Hunter is the real MVP. You got Hunter Biden? Let me tell you something. Yeah, that's Delaware.

Wait until y'all read. With the crack? I mean, this shit. Wait until y'all read. read Vice President Kamala Harris's book. Oh, you didn't bring that to you? No, I didn't bring it. I started reading, I read the Atlantic

Epsert. I'm almost over. I'm on, I'm on day two. Because the book starts off 107 days and counts down to election day. It make you hate them? Oh, it's over for Biden's legacy. Mm. I never thought he had much of a legacy anyway,

but it's over. I'm not, I'm not surprised at that. The Democratic Party is in the position in not because of Biden, but he damn sure didn't help it. And when you hear Pete Buttigieg say things like we shouldn't have ran Biden in 2024 and you hear the Vice President Kamala Harris make it very clear that she literally says in the book it shouldn't have been a decision that was just based on his ego. Yes, he did.

You know what I mean? Like it should not have just been based solely on his ego. And just the way that the Biden administration, you know, I always, say if you're not you don't got to try to help me but don't hurt me the way the Biden administration tried to undermine the VP you know people are going to try to say she's playing victim no she's not playing victim if she's telling her truth no no no I don't think this is her truth she's this is not playing victim at all so yeah that that Biden legacy I never thought he had much of one anyway it's definitely a rap now I don't even know if that matters for him like

at this point trust me that's all he cares about what was the like what was the like what was the I don't want to give away a lot in the book, but there's, I'm going to wait until the book comes out. There's moments you're like, what? I felt like that from the 3,000 words I read. Like, fuck shit. Yo, she talks about how he called her on debate day just to basically be like, yo, make sure you uphold my legacy and telling her that there's these guys that I want you to meet. They're not really sold on you, blah, blah, blah.

And she's like, why would you call me on debate day to tell me this? Out of all days. That's not that bad. That's not a bad. But her debate day or his? Her debate day against Trump. Her debate day. He's calling her to tell her, hey, there's these guys, these big donors, they're not really feeling you.

Blah, blah, blah. I'm going to want you to meet them, whatever, whatever. And then, hey, you know, make sure, you uphold my legacy. You know, you shouldn't really split up, split on me on some things. Like, that's what cost her the fucking election. I mean, but it might have ignited the fire because she killed that debate. Yeah, sure. Maybe sometimes you need a little packed up.

When you read it, you're going to be like, damn. That's literally what cost herty election. So it's over for that Biden legacy. Mental Wealth Expo, Saturday, October 11th, 11 a.m. to 4 p.m., my fifth annual Mental Wealth Expo was happening at the Joel and Diane Bloom, Wellness and Events Center in Newark, New Jersey. It is a day of mental health education and healing. Dr. Alfie Bree Land Noble will be there.

Debbie Brown will be there, Jason Wilson. there, Angela Rye will be there, Dr. J. Barnett, Dr. Rita Walker, Corey Minas Smith, Elliot Connie, just to name a few, man. We got some really incredible people that's going to be there. I just named you some of the best mental health professionals in the country. And it is a free event. Free, free, free. You know, I do it free every year, man, because I just want people to come out there and get this information. The day of mental health education and healing, October 11th at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and Events Center in Newark, New Jersey. I always want to come every year, but you always do it on my homecoming there.

I get it. Like, I feel like I need to be there. Like, I need the healing. Yeah, that's why I want you to keep going to homecoming. You keep going to homecoming and getting drunk and, you know, having things happen to you, you know? We'll be happening to be. You got a man now, though. Wait, hold on, what?

Don't you got to, you can just say you go to homecoming and get drunk and things happen to you. What the hell is wrong with you? What? That sound crazy. I'm just saying. What are you saying? You was in there this morning. I'm not going to say.

I'm just going to say You always try to ruin my legacy But you did say something about Plan B that was crazy You always shine I don't know what you're talking about Yeah, now you don't know what I'm talking about You always trying to You said something crazy about Plan B this morning Always trying to

I don't believe in Plan B I only work with Plan A That's been my whole life That ain't what you said this morning She was like yo you got to add it to your dietary plan I'm like what? What? That is not what I said

What's your saying? No you didn't say it on air I don't know what she's talking about Yeah okay Run the tape That's all I'm saying I was just like, God. It'd be your own people.

What, one Madam President? It's your own people. What? I'm just, I'm just, I get it. You know, you went to HBC. You know, you know. Oh, so now, what? There was the time you was a wild girl.

No, there was not. I've been in a relationship for like ever, and then I got out of one and now I'm, you know, that wasn't the case just last time he went, oh. What? Weren't you dating two guys before you was with your current person? Church? He was one of them.

He was in the rotation. Yo, we went from church announcements to altar call. Y'all are trying to deliver me and I'm not going. Leave me alone. What is happening? I'm just trying to learn. No. We're just trying to learn.

Just, please, I just, I do want to check in with like the mental health stuff. I feel like I got some things I need to figure out. But so switch the date. I mean, you can't. World Mental Health Day is October 10th. So it's going to always be around our. They ain't never one Del State the Hill. It's cool.

It's always did that. Oh, it's just Biden's fault. Shout out to Cameron. Once again, I know we've been talking about it is what it is a lot, but we discussed this on the radio this morning. He had Adrian Brona on, and he had Adrian and Brona removed from the episode because she kept disrespecting Treasor Statt Baby Wilson.

Let's hear some of this. Dude looks so good in person. Thank you. I appreciate that. Hey. What you wish to that? I love you. The guy.

I'm sorry. My bad, y'all. My bad. Arabia, is that a real background? Hey, Statt, could you stop? Yes. Can you stop? I always, you.

Arabia is. Now, yo, bro, or some G-Yo, yo, bro. Some G-Shia, we got to. Oh, all, right. Oh, shit. I told you that. My bad, my bad. Like, it's all, like, okay, we go so we can move on the football.

Oh, my God. Just, let's do the football. I guess that answer the question about Floyd. When I see, when I see you taking off some time. I'm mesmerized by stat. This, this, dude. I did not know you looked that good in person. My bad, bro.

You're amazing. All right. Hey, we're going to have to ask you to go, my nigga. I mean, I have to ask you to go, man. I'm going to pay you for your time. For bed. I appreciate you. I love you, my nigga.

I'm not doing it again. Yeah. No, no, no. I can't. I ask you the first time. I don't want to have no problems with you. But I'm going to pay you for your time. But you can't violate, bro.

I told you that. I'm not, don't. I'm not. I told you, niggas, boyfriends on his. You know what I'm on my boyfriend all that? Oh, it's my bad, my brother. No, no. But I appreciate your time.

It's me. It's me. No. Well, if you want to wait for us, I'll solve you could, but I'm not going to say in a not value your time, neither. You know, it was interesting to me because I was telling Lauren and just hilarious earlier that this is an easy situation to read for Cam, because, you know, he, her boyfriend was there and he told AB to stop disrespecting her one time and he kept doing it. So you have to leave. It's kind of hard in these settings, you know what I mean? Because that's what guys do in these entertainment settings.

I'm not talking about when the cameras are not rolling. I'm talking about when the cameras are rolling just like this. Yeah. And when a woman is performing like a Lauren or a Jess does or a stat baby, it's just like you don't know what's what sometimes. Yeah. You know? I also think, too, what you were saying.

Oh, no. I was going to say I also think, too, as women, sometimes like you're okay. I mean, I'll do it now because, like, my man be watching. But before that, I didn't mind like when David Banner came up and we're having a good time and it's fun and it goes with the content, the space.

And sometimes like... Oh, you gave him the number. No, you gave him my number. And I said, where did he get my number from? And you said, I gave it to him. You know what? Why? You're a journalist.

Like, you need access to. That, but I also thought I was throwing out of Ale U. Because the way she was melting my G, like she was in there, I'm like, oh my God. I was not. Like, he smells so good, he looks so good. You was in there like, you turned in the fucking slime.

What are you doing? What are you trying to do? But this was back in the day, this was before you was with, oh, it wasn't? No. What? I mean, yes. This was before you was booed up. This was when I thought she was looking for a booze.

I thought I was. Yeah, you know, it was early. It was very early at that point. But my point is sometimes, you know, content. Like, it's a part of the conversation. in the room, people know I'm single, whatever. I'm not tripping. But there are times, though, like with Sad Baby, what I love about Treasure Wilson

is the way that they, like, Kim and Mace support her, she's doing very well. She's able to produce content on her own. You know her as something. You respect her work. You don't think about all the things he's talking about. It's really hard to be cute and be in a space and have people respect your work and not your looks

and your whatever. I think sometimes it's just hard as a woman to, like, balance that, okay, I'm flirty. I'm fun, but, like, I really get busy, too. I really work. I think it's the way they position it. Like you said, like, the way they position her on the show, she's the moderator. She's in between two really big personalities, but she still has enough of a personality to cut through on her own. You know what I mean? And it's the fact that they're really, they're selling sports and pop culture, but it's primarily sports. You know what I mean? So, like,

you really, I didn't even know Stab baby was so young. Not that she looks old in any way she's just the way she carries herself. Yeah. But that's a part of the story. with them too is fresh out of college, they brought her on. They gave her her own part of the network and say, you go do your content and what you want to do. And she's doing well. She talks about she makes good money. She, you know, it's hard to figure out something. This was a huge blessing. But they also are big bro too. Like, they look out for her. It's really tough. So when you get in those spaces, a lot of times, especially you with the guys, it's like, you got to be able to hang sometimes for that to work. And sometimes hanging, there are uncomfortable moments where it's

like, well, can I be hanging sometimes? But I don't feel like that today. Yeah, but if you're uncomfortable, I'd like to know you uncomfortable. What I'm going to say? Because, you know, I'm always... Because knowing you, you're always joking. I am. But once you, if you text me, like, no, that's what I'm really uncomfortable. I'm going to understand that.

Like, we've got too many women in my life to not understand that. But, yes, if I see you going along with the joke, I'm like... And don't get me wrong, you can have instincts too. It's like sometimes your intuition will be like, that don't seem right. I've never been in that situation where I felt like, you know, any woman that was on the show was like in danger or was a... uncomfortable. See, but that's the thing. Sometimes it's not like... Even the one you told me today, I'm like...

Sometimes it's not stranger danger. Sometimes it don't give that. Sometimes it's simply a thing of I don't, like, why is the conversation my looks or whatever? Like, let's have a conversation about like, I'm sitting here with y'all, like, and my looks didn't... I don't know why the conversation about your looks either. That is a very valid fucking point. You be pissing me up, okay? I'm just telling you the truth. I'm not going to take that off the tape because it's there, okay? It's giving. You can't have it both ways. I agree with you.

Bitch is not be about your love. When you throw me that shit today, I'm like, huh? I don't believe that. You be so mad. Because I know him. Yeah, but you'd be so mad when they'd be like, they be leaning in.

I ain't seen nobody lean in to get a sniff. They might be trying to look under the arms and they know it might be some hair under that because I told them. You gave David Benner my number. But that was for journalists. Alex was right. It's for journalistic. For you, it was for something else.

For him, it was journalistic reason. It's not like he called, like, I need Lauren. Brother of all, I would never do that. If he called me like, I need Lauren Rose number, I want to holler her. Like, well, let me holler at Lauren first to see her that's even something she want.

But if he's calling, he's like, I want to tell her something, blah, blah, blah. What did he say when he called you? When he called me? Yes, like, what made you give him my number? Because when I called you, when I asked. Or chat, you thought it was funny. Because he said he wanted to give you some,

he was like, man, I want to give her some words of encouragement. I really like her. I can respect that. I like her energy. I just want to give her some words of encouragement about this business. Yes. And that's what he did, right? Yeah, I won't say.

Like, it wasn't. But it caught me off guard because I was like, where did this come from? Because you not used to men even talking to you nice because you don't got a dad. That's really what it is. At some point, you need that for a minute. I have a stepdad that talks to me nice. All week long. Maybe all week long.

Let me take a hugged Lauren one day. She goes, what's wrong? What happened? What's the problem? What's going on? What the last time you saw a hug? Somebody. Wait, I hug, I hug everybody.

You, I ain't never seen you hugging. I hug everybody. I hug my people. Yeah. You ain't, no. First of all, when you be, like, the other day you said something on show, like, you complimented me somewhere. I was like, you were right?

Something happening? No dad. Like, do I need to prepare? Like, do I need to get my eulogy ready? You gotta go to the mental health expert. I'm gonna go. That's because you don't, you know. They being there asking for me.

They're like wearing. They're not used. You're not. want nothing from you. That's the problem. I will, I can, I can agree with that. That's the problem. Yeah. That's not, no, I have die platonic friendships that give me positive reinforcement. I do. I have that. That's not true. So why you so not used to it? Why do you act so, ugh? It's not, no, you are, you're the devil. Like, it's not, it's not, nobody believes this. Who? Nobody believes it. You don't believe this. You a damn lie. You just

told these people that I said, you need to eat plan B for breakfast. That's what. That's what. what she said. Oh, that is not what it's right. That is not what it's not. It was something about the dieting. That's what she said. That wasn't dieting. That's exactly what you said.

She was like, she was like, sometimes you got you playing people breakfast. Like what the fuck. That is not what I said. That's exactly what she said. But if I did say that, I'm not judging anybody. You do what you got to do to get where I need to go. And sometimes it's unattached from them people.

Absolutely. It's okay, man. Everybody don't want to be in the clinic with, my dad. It's hard if you were telling people he not in my life. Like, he is so tired of you. I did this? He's going to post this on Facebook as if we've talked in the last month and watch.

Let's do some math and idiots, man. Shout out the Lawrence, not daddy. Let's play, um. He is my dad. Let's do something with the old ones from. Oh, yes, your father. That's your dad. That's your dad.

Don't make it seem like my mom didn't know who my dad was. Oh, shit. Hold on. Yeah, aren't you? Don't you got out? Oh, yeah. I got to go. Listen, as always, if you listen to this podcast,

You think we're smart. You think we're brilliant. Oh, wait, first of all, thank you, Lauren, for joining us. See, you barely even knew the thing. No, we got to go. We got to. Yeah. See, that's what?

That's different. You feel doing it. Well, what about? You're welcome. See, that was accurate. Give me your websites and all that. Oh, Lauren La Rosa everywhere. L-O-R-E-N-L-R-O-S-A.

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