The Brilliant Idiots - Private School Blues

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

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Habercat Walker. How you been, man? I'm good, man. Take the week off last week. Yeah, sorry about that, guys. Schedules got crazy. The day we were supposed to tape, I forgot I had parent teachers. Hey, man.

Listen, man. PTA. It's the time of year, baby. When you are a dad, okay, you got kids in college, you got kids in, you know, private schools. Woo! Salute to the cold-haired of Joe. You got kids in private schools. You know what I mean?

Yeah. You know, I had to go to a private, I had to go to a PTA meeting. Parent-teacher meeting. Yeah. So what was it? You know, it's so crazy. I feel like, because I'm always there with my wife, I feel like I don't even have to pay attention really. Like, you know what I'm saying?

This is what we do in its madness. Why our wives hate us? She got it. We know how dedicated they are to the kids. So we really just get to like be the co-pilot on the plane. Like there's the main pilot. We're not even a copilot. We're really like the flight attendant.

Are we even that? I guess now maybe the flight attendant. You know what I'm saying? We might not even be that, bro. I started doing dumb shit, like, playing with my four-year-old, like the toys she played with in the classroom. Like, they had this, like, Mr. Potato Head Spider-Man. So I took a picture with it.

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the type of stuff I'm thinking about, like, she's going to see me playing with the Spider-Man and, like, she's going to laugh because this is her thing that she liked to play with. The teacher was like, she loves to play with that. Oh, yeah, she loves Spider-Man. And the moms love the kids more than they're annoyed at us.

So the only way to- there, bro. I don't think they, I think they want us to lock in. Locking on what? The thing they're locked in on. You know what's so funny? You're absolutely right. I don't even be paying attention to no day they should be locked in. I just know the teacher be going. You know what they treat it like? What? Like, you ever take your wife to like a basketball game? And they're like kind of paying attention to it. That's how we are at a PTA maybe. Now, like you're there. That's right. Until something happens. Like there was one teacher, Salute to her.

I don't, you know, I'm not going to say her name, but salute to her. What grade are we talking to here? This was, this is my seven-year-old, so this is third grade. So it's starting to get real. And I'm sitting there, you know, you, I don't know. If you don't want to grab your phone because you don't look like you're out completely in the dress. So you're just like this, whatever, whatever. And then she's like, social emotional learning.

You're like, oh, that's me. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? And she starts to talk about mindfulness and meditation. So then I start paying attention to my surroundings. Yeah. And I'm looking around. And I'm like, oh, she got a mindfulness classroom.

Like, she got, you know, meditation Mondays and this on Tuesday. Like, she's really in the social, emotional learning and mindfulness. So now she's piqued my interest. Yeah. So now I'm really paying attention to her. And then, you know, afterwards, have a conversation with her and, you know, invite her to the Mental Welfth Expo happening on October 10th. Like, that's the type of stuff.

Other than that, yo, you got to find something to hook the parents. That's crazy. What? You got to be. Literally talking about your daughter and you're like, man, This shit boring as hell. Oh, you guys depressed, too? No.

Now I got some depression over here? No. Oh, some mental additions? Yeah. Come to the Expo. Because this is what I want teachers to do. I want them to implement social emotional learning in the classroom. But they have been.

You just haven't been paying attention. No, that's not true. That's not true. Listen, I'm there too, bro. It's all good. That's not true. I drop my daughter off today, man. It sounded like an insane asylum.

Crazy. Oh, my God. Arkham. You see what the fuck I'm saying? These are three-year-olds. Jesus, oh my God. Kids scream and cry. You really start going like, what are we bringing our kids to?

They don't know what school is, bro. You don't understand how psychotic school is. It's crazy. We take our most fresh possessions, our souls outside of our body, drop them off with fleet strangers for eight hours a day and just walk away like it's nothing. And just go on about our daily routine like, It's okay. And the only reason we do it is because most of the teachers are women.

Bro. Ain't no way in hell you dropping your three-year-old child off at a school full of men. I don't trust the women either. But you trust them more. I don't know about that. Well, you did it. I trust teachers. I trust, and this is completely wrong, I trust the person.

All male teachers? You're not getting my kid. No, no, no. I'm saying I trust the teacher that decided, hey, what I want to do for the rest of our life is serve these kids. Because they don't make a lot of money. You know what I'm saying? You gotta be doing it for the love for the- Love of the game.

So the other thing I think about it is the fact that it's me, it's my wife, it's these four kids, right? Imagine being one adult in a room of 20 of them. Why don't we pay teachers six-figure salaries, bro? Tax-free! Teachers shouldn't even have to pay taxes, bro. I'm not even lying. Teachers should be making six figures a year

and shouldn't even have to pay taxes, yo. I'm with you. The best health care, everything. That's communism, man. You don't want that. That's dangerous. We're going to turn into the evil empire. No, you know what they should do?

It should be they get salaries dependent on their skill. So if you're a fire teacher and all your students end up going to great schools and getting amazing grades, etc., like you should be able to negotiate your salary. But if you're a benchworm and ass teacher, which we've all had, we like to pretend like every teacher. What's wrong with that, though? Just look at them as glorified nannies, glorified babysitting. But they get that salary then. But that only works that the schools have the same resources.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, but right now we're operating hypothetical. We're talking about paying teachers $600. You get your kid from your 11th grade English class into an Ivy League. Shit, you get $10 million a year. Like, whatever it is, anybody will pay that. And you've got to be careful with this. That's what you think you're getting at private school.

And a lot of those teachers are cruising their own cruise control, man. Can I just ask you a question here? First of all, private school that my kids go to, they got like a 90% rate of kids going to, like, great schools. They better. Yeah. You're paying a lot of money for it. You go to college.

Yes. Those star professors that are NYU and shit, they're getting paid crazy money. They're not doing that just for the love of the game. They're getting paid crazy money. So, because they understand that it's an attraction that people want to go to school because they're there. Now, I don't want to apply like these laws of school where I, obviously having a hypothetical, ridiculous conversation, like pay teachers more and make sure

they feel secure, blah, blah, blah. Now let's get back into silly. There is something to it. Like, I remember I had formative teachers in my life where, like, what they taught me, I haven't forgotten now. They made me feel confidence with math. They made me feel confidence with U.S. history, these types of things. But I had those. If you're telling me, they're up for a contract renewal and they can negotiate no matter where they go. I remember my second grade teacher's panties look like. What color? White when they were white, but she used to sit at her. desk, you know, we used to live for that. Any stains on them?

Nah, no, no. It was, I mean, that was a young kid in second grade dream. Miss, B. Baby, bleep the side, but she was fired with it. You know what I'm saying? We were in second grade.

You know, you're sitting there. She's sitting there. I don't know why. I guess if we were kids, she didn't think she had to cross her legs and stuff. Yeah. Like, wow. I don't remember what she taught, though.

What she taught? I have no idea. Yeah. Don't remember nothing. The private school my kids go to anatomy. Has over 40 to 50% of students enrolling in their first choice school be an early decision or early action? That's what they're good at.

Look, I only have my experience, but it was at one of the top private schools in New York City, supposed to be one of the best in the country. They mailed in everything else. Yeah. They get them into the colleges, but they're not teaching them. My daughter, who's at a public high school in New York City, superior education. It's not even close. What was Nicole Hannah-Jones' piece about?

I haven't gotten a chance to read it. I love Nicole Hannah-Jones. I love her writing. What was our piece about? I read it. I'll try to summarize it. I might get some of it wrong. But essentially, when she's in Brooklyn,

I believe she and her husband and her daughter and in Bedstai, and she made a conscious decision. I'm not going to try to get my kid into, definitely a private school, but not only just a private school, but one of the, quote, better, more diverse public schools.

I'm going to try to send my kid to an all-black elementary school, middle school, and probably high school as well, because that's the only way you're going to help these schools, right? Is if families like ours that have money and resources and connections make the choice that we're going to send our kid to the school and then give money to the school, work with the administration,

work with the PTA, and have enough people like us to it, it'll change the trajectory for black students. And it's very specifically this article about black students, too, in New York City. Interesting, because I never thought about giving money to a public school. Oh, you got to. Oh, that's the game channel. You got to. I mean, I never knew.

But the article, so she had written one article when I believe her daughter was in kindergarten. And for context, she also wrote or was the lead writer for the 1619 project, which became a controversial document or series. I don't know why. It was just history. I know. But it kind of got targeted by people who don't want that taught in schools, regardless, just for context. So what this article, she wrote a article when the daughter was going to kindergarten about what she was going to do. And now the daughter's in high school.

And the new article is basically the daughter saying, hey, I got a shitty education. Damn. We got money. We have resources. We know everybody. And you sent me to shitty schools my entire life. And I don't feel like I got a fair education. So it's kind of her coming to terms with that and saying that I fail on both of my goals.

Okay. See, I didn't read it just. I just thought it was a public school, private school debate. And, you know, my mom, she taught at public schools in South Carolina her whole career. So my mom is really big on public schools. I'm big on public schools depending where you are. You know what I'm saying? Because to your point, Chris, if you live in certain zip codes, the public schools are even top-notch, right?

People pay a premium to move into. Yes. So the public schools, even in my area, are top-notch. The only reason I enrolled my kids into this private school, not because I think private school is, you know, inherently better. it's just a really good school. You know what I'm saying? Like when you go do a tour of it and you talk to the teachers

and you see that all of this the curriculum that they have. Like they don't have curriculum like math. Of course they got math and they read and stuff. But they have other things. And they sell well. They teach you financial literacy.

You know what I mean? Stuff like that. They got media rooms. They just got a lot of different things for the kids to do. Every different private school has their own identity and the thing that they're going to sell you on.

There's a private school who, you know, and they say they're like teaches you how your kids how to be gentlemen. It's an all-boy school. And the whole idea is like when they're young from kindergarten to like, I think it's like eighth grade or something like that. It's like they're wearing a shirt and tie every single day. They're teaching you etiquette. They're teaching responsibility and like, you know, hey. Say it again, speaking of moms, speaking of mothers. But my, um... So the point, the point I'm trying to say is like these schools, part of what they're doing is selling the parents on the experience for the kids. And a lot of them do

offer a great experience. I never went to private school so I can't speak on it. Yeah. I went to public school in the city. I was zoned in a place where there were good public schools. So I benefited from that for sure. But like there was a difference between not only the, I can't say the education, but there's a difference on like the focus in success. Like I went to a small public school, which was like competitive. I didn't get there for grades, but most of the other kids did. And like, most of us were like, we got to go to college. I had friends that went to public school in the city and was like, that wasn't expected of you.

Everyone that I knew that went to private school, it was expected you were going to go to college, not only to college, to a top college. That wasn't the combo with us. There was no conversation of Ivy League with us. My oldest daughter went to public school, you know, graduated from public school, but it's a great public high school in Jersey.

What I will say in New York City, and again, I'm going to have to cross this bridge when I get there, but, like, one thing that I felt like I got experienced New York City was actual New York City. And I feel like a lot of my private school friends, they experience a very, like, niche version of New York City, which is New York, but it's a basically upper east side, west side bubble. What's wrong with the bubble, man? Bubble me, baby.

Bubble me, man. I get it because that's where people live. But what I would say is that, like, it has been such a great advantage for me. life not to exist in that bubble. That's only because you're a comedian. No, no, no, no. And you guys make conversations. Education is not just about grades, right?

Education is just... I don't feel uncomfortable pretty much anywhere. You can go anywhere. Like, it's very hard for me to just feel uncomfortable. Because your bubble will let you know. Your bubble don't make you feel like it's no danger. Bubble me. Imagine being in a bubble and not having to deal with, you know, the anxieties that they

teach you about the world. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're in this bubble. You're existing in this bubble. You've created a safe space space. When you go out into the world, you feel like the whole world is like that. Now, you're going to get a rude awakening. No, these kids, they're not going to fucking Eastern Parkway and feeling fine.

They're not going, they're probably not even going downtown. Say again? Why would they go to Eastern Parkway? Maybe they have friends that live over there. Best Street in New York City. I didn't send you to the school for you to have friends on Eastern Park. Damn. But you got to know real shit happens.

Watch the news. But the news is like there's a complete. What you're saying right now is what I hear a lot of people say that grew up in the hood. They feel like they want their kids to have some hood in them. I'm like, no. No, like why? I do understand you got to have natural survival skills. It's not just hood.

My daughter goes to school with a lot of girls who wear the hijabs, right? Like, that's an experience that she can. I would say this. You got to know there's a hood. I thought Chris was saying that because he was in danger. I was like, that was a terrible segue. Why? Why, Chris?

Yeah. My mind, my mind doesn't even think like that. It's called a shi-stee, Chris. It's not a hijab. It's called a shi-stasy. It's a fashionable trend. Okay? God thinks everything is Islam.

Leave it up to the Jewish guy to think, oh, there's a Muslim takeover. It's called a shi-stee, Chris. Speaking of Eastern Parkway, if it's 90 degrees out and kids come walking down the street in full hooded sweatshirts and shi-sties. You got to get the fuck on. Thank you, right?

Well, it depends. Are they on a moped? Oh, well, then. I'm already gone. You better get to know. No, I hear what you're saying and say people like, you know, I want them to still feel like they're part of the neighborhood or whatever.

It's like, as long as they know the neighborhood exists, you know what I mean? It's because you have gratitude for where you are, where you want to be, where you could be. You know, like, and also, like, you're experiencing all these different elements and angles in life. Like, I think there's a lot of kids that grow up in, like, the super rich bubble,

and they feel like they'll never be able to achieve the success of their parents. They feel like failures. now they're just doing drugs and rehab. When you grow up and you know everything that's around you and you're in that nice shit, you start going, man, I'm pretty fucking lucky to be here. Like, I got a friend who hasn't really eaten outside of school lunch all week. I think that's parents bought, though, because I don't want my parents to even think about what I do as success.

I want them to think about what it is they want to do as being a success. Like I want that, and that's the beauty of, you know, having resources, right? When you have resources, hopefully you can provide your kids. a whole bunch of different options. That's essentially what we're talking about. All we're trying to do is provide our kids with the most options possible. But even with all those options, like Charlemagne, you're like a, I mean this sincere. Like you're like a generational success and like the best of what you've done in your industry.

And I don't need my kids to beat it. No, I know you don't. I know you won't put your pressure on them. You just want them to find their joy and their passions like you did. But inevitably, being your child, there's always going to be some sort of thing where you compare yourself to the things that. your parents have. Like, naturally, like, you grew up in a double-wide trailer.

And, like, or single, right? It's like, I'm sure there's part of you in your mind going, like, man, look at the size of this house from what I came from. Every day. But they're going to, they came from a big house. That's all they know. So now when they go to buy a house, they're going to be like,

man, I didn't even get the biggest house as my dad. But that's like, it's a different. Maybe or maybe not. Yeah. Maybe they just want to live in a, of course, they're going to want luxury, right? But it don't necessarily have to be a big-ass house. No, I, you know what I'm saying?

I'm just saying it's very natural to compare yourself to your surroundings. And then to judge your success based on how far you've got in front. I agree with you. And that's why we shouldn't put pressure on our kids, right? Like, it's like, we know the environments that we come from. I thank God my kids don't have to grow up in the environment that I grew up in. No, for sure. That's a huge success for you.

It just actually makes you the grumpy old dad sometime. Which is funny. It makes you to sitcom dad. Yeah. Turn off these goddamn lights, okay? Why y'all got these little fights on in the house. Back in my day, we were really. You used to have to light candles.

You know what I mean? Shit like that. It just really makes you the grumpy old dad. Like, y'all don't appreciate nothing. Yes, they appreciate everything. They're just used to it. Exactly. I'm comparing it to the single wide trail line up in.

I'm comparing it to the little sovereign, you know, house that my grandmother used to live in with a porch. Like, they don't, they didn't come from that. They don't know what that is. Yeah. You give them an allowance? You give them an allowance? How do you do? Allowance.

Once my daughter hit 13, I gave her a salary. And my second one hits 13, I'm giving her. a salary. Give them a salary. What's it going to do? Nothing. Yeah, that's an allowance. That's allowance. No, no, no, no, I'm going to tell you why. We're not asking what the IRS

thinks of this. Talking his friends here, man. I mean, they got to do their regular household chores. Allowed. Allowance. No, I'm going to tell you. That's smart. Let me explain it to you all. Changing it to a salary, now you can tax

right off? Yeah. Floyd. Floyd's kids. Hold on. What is it? Hold on. I don't want to explain this wrong. Yeah, you can legally shift income by hiring your child through your unincorporated business deducting their wages as a business expense while they owe zero federal income tax on earnings up to $16,100. Damn, it went up. It used to be $13,100 in $2,000. So parent deducts child wages from business profit. Child claims the standard deduction, the offset earnings. And you can fund the Roth IRA with earnings. So I was doing that with my daughter soon as she turned 13. So here's it. Might have been 16.

So here's a question, right? Yeah. While we dad out on the pod for a little bit. Yeah. We're dad, bro. That's, I love it. At some point, it might have to be the brilliant dad's podcast, actually.

So how much do you push your kid? Because sometimes I find, like, kids might be hesitant to do a thing that if they are pushed to do it, they will fall in love with it. So it's like, but you also don't want to push your kid to the point where they resent it. But it's very easy to just sit back and be comfortable

and not try new things. But the new things could be their love, their joy, their passion, like what they're put on this earth to do. I don't push them to do nothing. I'm not even joking. It's just like, yo, whatever you love, once again, having the resources

that they can, you know, go out there and experience a bunch of different things, throw a bunch of things against the wall and whatever it sticks, that's what they rock with. So if it's cheerleading, do your cheerleading. If it's art, do your art. My oldest daughter does everything.

My oldest daughter plays the guitar. She plays keyboard. She's a great competitive cheerleader. She's major in exercise science. Like she does a little bit of everything. My second daughter, she's the same thing. She likes cheerleading and gymnastics and all that stuff, but she likes art.

She likes being in the theater plays. She likes drawing. Your daughters feel very comfortable going out and exploring new things. Yes it. But there are kids that don't. And they need a little nudge. But sometimes with that nudge,

they find an incredible passion for it. You get a lot more nudges when you have resources, bro. So you do believe in pushing them, but not forcing. Well, what I mean by that is when you have resources, because kids want to do everything they see. That's what I'm saying. Not every kid is like that. But like, no, sometimes their kids are a little hesitant.

They might be a little shy. They might be like, I have friends. You know, like maybe their kid didn't want to try baseball. All of a sudden they try baseball and they're like, oh, my God. Because maybe that's the, but you said try. Do they really want to do it? Are their parents telling them to go do baseball? Well, I think that's what happens is, like, they think they don't want to do it.

Their parents get them over that hump, and then they realize how much they love it. That's crazy. You have a way more Dominican friends. Dynamic. Because one thing I've, my father pushed me very hard. Yeah. Everything, like on top of me 24-7, and in retrospect, I needed it. Yeah.

I think you could pause that, Chris. That sounded crazy. What are you talking about? My father pushed me really hard on top of me 24-7. That was a little wild. Even my dad. All right. Anyway.

Do you know what he's trying to say? I think I heard it. But do you know what he's implying? Yeah. And this sounded a little crazy. You didn't think so? I think what he's trying to say. Shut the fuck on.

Go on. Anyway, I pushed my daughters the same way. And at a certain point, I was like, oh, I can't push them the same way my father pushed me. Their makeups are different. What did you push you to do, though? Everything.

Like, I can remember running cross country. I didn't want to run. He'd be running along the side of the course during the meets being like, it's only seven minutes of your life. Suck it out. Keep running. You know, like, he was on it.

Is it bad that I don't see your problem with that stuff? I don't see your problem. I see that a lot. You know, man, come on. When I, you think that the problem? Seven minutes is a long time sucking it up. When he was pushing, you ever push back to me? This is horrible, man.

We're trying to dad out. We're trying to, we are dead and out. This reminded me or something. What you're saying, Chris, is the problem. Not every kid has the disposition. Yeah, yeah, go, go, go, go, go. I can't push my daughters that way, long story short.

Yeah. But I do wonder a lot if I had a son. Could you? Would I be pushing him as hard as my father push me? And I think that's something you're going to have to navigate, which is like, and I'm sure even with four daughters, but like, whatever the case is. I did that with my oldest daughter with karate.

She did not like her at all. She was just doing it because I had her doing it. And she didn't not like it. And she quit when she got to like brown belt or something like that. So it's just like, I didn't know you didn't like it. I tell you all the time I don't like it. But you know, in your mind, kids be like, I don't want to go to karate practice. Like, no, let's go to karate.

You think kids don't want to do anything. No, they don't want to do what they don't want to do. The things that they love to do, they'll beat you there. Like, dad, hurry up, let's go. I got cheerily and practice. And that's what you hope they're doing. But you're saying like with a son, I might feel a little more comfortable pushing them harder. Did your father push you?

No. He didn't. He supported the fuck out of me. Right. The only thing that he didn't let me do, and I remember this my entire life, this is the only thing. Okay. Get a tongue ring. Fair.

Shout out to him. Shout out Larry. Shout out Larry. Larry. That's fair. And then the other thing was I. Fragal maggotry in my house. None.

And then the other thing was, the other thing was, I asked him. him to join me up to this like a hockey league right right and and i've never seen him do this but he was like nah and i was like what do you mean nah he's like how are you going to have friends and like he grew up hooping and he met all these friends wherever he lived you know what i mean he was like working in baltimore in the news but like he would go hoop and then he built up and it was the best decision he ever made because i made all my friends playing basketball why don't you think you wouldn't make friends playing hockey i might but it'd be so it'd be so specific that would have been another It's like I lived in Spain and all my friends were from playing hoops.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In college, all my friends were playing hoops. Like, even to this day, like, Jamil and I were on a basketball team together. Yeah, you could have done that everywhere as well. And it was like, it was a tiny little thing that he, like, pushed me in a direction of that changed the course of my whole life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Being nice at hockey is a useless skill if you move to another country, like, unless it's Canada.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're not just rolling up to a court or like a rink or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, I don't think you should, I don't think you should. As I said, I don't think you should push your kids, though. Like, let your kids find their way, whatever it is they want to do what your dad did, support it. Yeah.

Okay, but hold on. Let me throw one more counter at you. What about in this Internet age when they spend so much time? Scrolling, doing nothing. Scrolling. Who's kids spend time on the Internet? My kids. Not mine.

They don't have it. And I'm like. They don't have a phone, Charlemagne? My oldest daughter has a phone. My youngest kids have. In college now, you don't think he's on it? No. Yo, the other day she had to call me.

because she said one of the clubs she wants to join was saying that, hey, you know, social media is how they communicate. She don't have social media. And I'm like, well, that can't be the only way. That cannot be the only way they communicate. I don't understand why she, her phone doesn't have it on it? She's never been on it, so she doesn't have a desire. Do you realize we're addicted to this shit for no reason?

You don't even know why you scroll. I know it's bad. You can't tell me the last video you watched on social media and you've probably been on there all day. Here's a little bit of a game changer. I turned my phone to gray scale. What's that? Let me say this before.

Did I? I mean, tell me a few years ago. It works. What is it? It's just black and white. My phone's blacking right now. But what happens? I'm not getting the dopamine hits from the color.

And it actually changes it? And when I do go on my phone, it's not enjoyable, and I'm finding I'm spending way less time with my phone now. Bro, there's nothing dumber than laying in your bed, knowing you got to go to sleep. Right. And for whatever reason, you just decide to look on your phone and scroll for an hour. And you're there for, and you're like,

what the fuck, I've been on this shit for an hour? and you're not looking at nothing. It's dumb. So if you don't ever give a kid that, they won't desire it. My kids don't drink soda. They've never had soda, never had sugary drinks.

So they naturally get water with their food, water with their food, water with their food. But then they're going to go to college and all the other kids, that's how they socialize, that's what they drink. And then they're going to have a culture shock. Those days, I'm telling you,

so the kids aren't on social media like this? I was saying this just observation, but I saw some studies over the weekend. You got to hold you. What's it, Generation Z? That's what it is now? Alpha, Alpha. No, what's the generation?

Gen Z and then Gen Alpha. Okay. So I think your oldest daughter is probably Gen Alpha. I don't remember, but they're just, they're disconnecting. They want real life experiences because they realize social media is not real. They realize that 50% of the shit on social media is bots. They're just not into it. But there's still so many of them that's on social media.

Is it? Yeah. I'm asking, is it? My kids are definitely addicted. I think it's a lot of kids that aren't, and I think it's going slowly for short. I hope it becomes the trend. Slowly more surely to stay alive,

it's coming, baby. It's coming. You see it. I would love it. It's happening. I would love it. It is interesting. They get addicted to the things that entertain them.

Like, my daughter obviously loves reading because we've restricted her entertainment to reading and, like, pretend games. But you still have that tick to be entertained. So, like, when we sit down, she's like, read a book. That's right. And our natural thing is to do what you're doing.

Pick up your phone. Right. Like in that empty space, I know you're doing something, blah, blah, blah. But what I'm saying is in the empty space, they will fill it with something. They're not going to just sit there and observe the room and think. Yeah. And when we were young, go outside. It was go outside.

Yep. It was go outside. That's what my son does now, too. What does he do? One, like, and as soon as he sees me picking my keys, he's like, okay, we're outside. Really? Yeah, he loves to go outside. That.

Yeah. Gen Z. According to a study by John Hopkins, a growing number of people are cutting back on or leaving social media driven by digital fatigue, privacy worries, and a desire to reclaim their time and mental well-being. Surveys show that nearly a third of users, especially Gen Z, are posting less about their personal lives than they did previously. Many feel that platforms have turned away from friend connection toward relentless advertising

and influencer content. A surge of young people are experimenting with going chronically. offline, the leading apps and trading screen time for in-person hobbies. I see it just being on these campuses. Sometimes just literally back in the day, three, four years ago, all you saw is this on the street. You don't see that shit as much anymore, yo. I do.

I was stuck behind someone walking up the steps to the subway just now. One person, Chris? But I'm talking about looking at everybody. I just look at all people. I bet you see it less than less, yo. I hope so. I'm telling you. This episode has been brought to by Bluetooth Gold.

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Let's start with Ed Shearing, man. Okay. Because y'all focused on the wrong things here, guys. Oh. Okay. So... Oh. Well, let me start from this.

I say, yeah. What's the backstory? Click off that, Taylor, because I don't forget. Speaking of... It's the... That's how you know this shit just be here today going tomorrow. It's the Maconmore. Make it bigger, please?

Okay. No, no, I'm about to... Oh, this part right here. That's all. It's just... It's bullet point. He was forced off Ed Shearing's tour. after Sharon was pressured by Patriots owner Robert Kraft

following McElmore's on-stage calls for free Palestine. Kraft allegedly called Sharon ahead of his show at Jules Stadium and told him that McElmore would not be allowed to perform in this stadium. Kraft reportedly rallied other stadium owners and collectively gave Sharon the ultimatium. Ultimatum, if McElmore stays on the tour, you would not be allowed to play in our venues. The promoter of Sharon's U.S. tour,

Messina Touring Group, released a statement that echoed McElmore's claim but did not specifically name Kraft or any other venue or owner. Craft who is Jewish is known for his scorned support of Israel and Jewish causes, having donated millions of dollars to them over the years and organizing trips to Israel with NFL players. Look, y'all know Ed Sheeran is my guy. It's always going to be my guy.

The reality of the situation is, I don't understand why Ed Sheeran is getting so much flag for this. Talk to me. Why do we always focus on the individual as opposed to the issue are the institution? Talk to me. Ed Sheeran is an individual who is pressured by an institution. The institution are the owners of these stadiums.

And the owners of these stadiums said, hey, this guy can't perform, put pressure on Ed, put pressure on the promoters. The promoters are the ones I was told removed McElmore from the show. But it's easy for social media to get online and attack Ed Shearing because the reality of the situation is, I find it amusing that people boycott things that they were never listening to to begin. Macklemore. No. Ed Shearer. You know? Who doesn't listen to Ed Shearin?

Everybody listens to Ed Shearin. You got a whole group of people who probably don't listen to Ed Shearin. Ed Sheron is Bob Marley. And it's easy for them to cut Ed Shearin the fuck off. But my point is, why is Ed Shearant the issue in this situation? Shouldn't the issue be Robert Kraft? I agree. But shouldn't the argument would be, should both of them not be the issue?

Like, someone would be like, hey, you're a powerful artist. You folded under the pressure of these institutions instead of supporting free speech and supporting free artists. Also, you knew who McLemore was and how big a part of his identity this was when you asked him to be part of the tour. But that should, listen to what you just said. Yeah.

That last part is very important. Yeah. Because if you're going to call Ed out and try to say he's, you know, anti-Palestine or whatever, why would you pick an opening act that you know is so pro-Palestine? And it's not even just Ed. The other people on, the other acts on the tour

are super pro-Palestine. You think Ed Sheeran doesn't know that? I'll give you one more point to that. Okay. If I have the timeline correctly, they had MacMorre stood up and given his speech a couple of times. Ed Shearren let him cook.

Oh, I didn't know that. Ed She didn't have a problem with it. I didn't know that. He didn't echo it. He didn't double down on it, but he was like, do your thing. My understanding was like they reached out to him about it. Oh, they did.

That's my understanding. It could be bullshit, but they reached out to him about it. And then we're like telling him to have it down, I guess he said he wasn't going to. So if you are trying to silence him. Again, I don't know if they did. I don't know if that came from Ed.

Maybe it came for the promoters. I don't know. I don't know how involved they are in it. But I guess that would be the argument. The argument is like if this is how you feel and you are supportive of him and him doing his act and the way he wants to do it, why fold for one venue. Well, I think that's the conversation. And that's why I think the energy should be directed towards the owners and the institutions. because regardless of how powerful you may think Ed Shearing is,

clearly he's not as powerful as those institutions. So let's just say you go after Ed Shearing. This is Michael Moore. You get him out to paint, right? Those institutions still exist and we'll do this to the next individual. But why not? Did you listen to what McElmore said? Yeah.

I thought it was so balanced. I thought it was like, I thought it was balanced. I'm like, I can't get more balanced than that on that issue. To me, it creates like, you want to play it? Play it, Taylor. I've been trying to figure out a way to say this all day. One of the reasons why I wanted to come on this tour was because I wanted to stand up here on stages and stadiums across America

and say two words that are very near and dear to my heart, Free Palestine. I said free Palestine. To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters, Criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide in no way is a criticism of you. My message is for peace, love for all human beings to be treated with dignity, respect, and equality. So I say free Palestine. I say free Lebanon.

I say free Cuba. I say free Congo, free Sudan, free all people in America, living. in fear over this terrorist organization ice. None of us will be free until we are all free. But like to me, if this is the reaction to something that was like incredibly balanced and like not at all violent or offensive, whatever, it's like, it's like I think sometimes, this is what I think sometimes happen is like if you say free Palestine, right, which if you are someone who's pro-Israel but actually believes in a two-state solution, what you also believe

is a free Palestine. Sure. Right? So, like, that's something you also believe, if that's something you want, right? I don't think there's anybody, is there anybody on the planet that is like, I want occupied Palestine forever?

Right. There are some people. Those people are fucking insane. So, like, if we would say, if we would say, the unanimous decision around the world is we would hope for a free Palestine. Everybody who is reasonable

would hope that there's not an occupied group of people by anybody, right? That would be a hope. No? Is that a crazy thing to say? No, okay. So if you're pushing back to that statement because of like a way you choose to interpret it. I mean, what are the chances that Kraft even heard what he said? What if he just heard him say Free Palestine?

And then in Kraft's mind, that means some different shit. And now, so you're canceling somebody for your interpretation of what they said? This is the great ridiculous, bro. So everything you've got to stop canceling people for your interpretation of what they said. Everything you just said makes so much sense and it's so logical. And I'm glad you brought that up because. I looked this up a few days ago because I'd be wanting to know what do people think free Palestine means, right? So free Palestine is a political slogan and rallying cry that carries widely different meanings.

Yes. Depending on who is using it and the context in which it said. So to your point, as a call for liberation in human rights for many activists and supporters the phrases of demand for an end to the Israeli military occupation of the West Bank in Gaza, freedom from systemic oppression, and the right to self-determination and basic human dignity for Palestinians. Nobody's against that, right? I would find it hard to believe that there are rational people against that. Okay. It's also used as a call for statehood.

It is often interpreted as advocating for an independent sovereign Palestinian state, either alongside Israel and a two-state solution or as a single democratic state with equal rights for all inhabitants between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. So that's the one that I think makes the Robert Crafts nervous because they're like... It's the next one. Oh, talk to me. This is the next one. Oh, shit, it gets crazy.

as a call for the elimination of Israel. For militant groups like Amaz and other rejectionist organizations, the phrase and related chants such as from the river to the sea, are used to signify the complete replacement of Israel with a Palestinian state, which critics and the Israeli advocates view as a call for the destruction of the Jewish state and the displacement or subjugation of his Jewish population. That's the meaning that everybody gets upset about. but if you ask me, I don't ever think of that meaning.

I've never heard somebody say Free Palestine, and that's what they were talking about. It was either one of the first two meeting. Well, I think in this circumstance, you have context for what he means. He's not just saying, he's like, hey, this is what I mean by it. Absolutely.

And very specifically, I think there was a thing where he said, like, this is different. This is, you know, Jewish people. I stand with you and you should be protected. Like, I think he, like, thought about this and knew what he was going to do. He said it. I'm sure. If Chris's point is accurate, he said this a million times.

You know what I'm saying? I think the other issue is the fact that since so many groups of people use the same phrase, it's like even though McElmore is saying it for that, you're still saying the phrase that the people who are against me are using the same thing. So just like defunded the police, there were some people that were like, no, no, we need to redistribute wealth to mental health. It wasn't take all the money away from police. and then there were people saying that same phrase,

meaning abolish all police altogether. Yeah, but that phrase is trash. A lot of these phrases are trash, because that phrase leaves up too much up to interpretation. Some would say free Palestine is too much to interpretation. How? Somebody says, hey, from the river to the sea. Because there's no world that we live in.

I'll give you another example. I was talking about affordability, or not even affordability. I said teachers need to get six-figure salaries and shouldn't have to pay taxes. Chris was being sarcastic, but he said what a lot of people would say. That's communism. That's socialism.

No, it's not. Yeah, people run for shit. I mean, we're talking about paying people what they deserve. This is my suspicion. My suspicion is that someone's like, yo, this guy's saying free Palestine. And, by the way, look at this outfit he put on back in the day that looks crazy antithmetic.

Now, McElmore's saying he's dressing like Ringo Star. That's what he said? Yeah. Now, I don't remember Ringo looking like that. That's one of those things where it's like, now you've got to keep it real. People start coupling things together. They couple the Jew face with the free palest.

He's saying I'm doing Beatles face. Yes. He's saying he's doing Beatles face. But you start doing Beatles face and you start saying that and then they give it to Bob Kraft. Who? Now he's like, who's gonna be performing here? I think Kraft would have done it without the Beatles face.

Again, I don't know Bob Kraft. My point is, is that this is bad PR too, because this is bad PR for Kraft. Like, this is horrible. Terrible. He handled it horribly. Yeah. But I was texting with a Jewish friend of mine last week.

She says he's a hero. She says he's great. Thank God for people like him standing up. I said, come on. You've got to be kidding me. Well, maybe not. She probably wasn't talking about just this one issue. No, what she was like.

Rob Crawford. Imagine being in that stadium when McElmore said what he said, how unsafe you would have felt. She don't even know what McElmore said. I said, yeah, I would have been fine. But before we position all Jewish people like this, it's like, I've spoken to a bunch of Jewish people about this. And they're like, this is. They think Robert Kraft went too far. They're like, this is the worst.

Literally what they said is, this is the last thing we need right now. The last thing we need right now is looking like we're policing speech or policing art or policing any of these things. It's like, we're already not popular. People already think these things of us and we're going to go stop McLemore from performing. See what I'm saying? That's the perspective I've heard. And you're going to do it on the week when I'm outside telling all my Jewish friends,

Anatova. Natova. Why is why this week of all weeks? Like, why would you do it on this week? That's why Robert was a little extra sensitive. Rob, I, I, I, the high holy days. The high holy days. You know what I'm saying?

Like, Jesus, Christ. Yeah. Shouldn't there be more Jewish people speaking up to, like, call out craft? That's what I'm doing right now. But I think this is, like, say again. I don't think there's enough of Chris's that call it up. Hold on one second. This is a funny moment because, like, this is the exact moment of where, like, white people go,

shouldn't there be more black people talking about the violence on the black community? And it's like there are, it doesn't hit your algorithm. Maybe. Right? Because your algorithm is just people maybe being. You don't coach your Twitter, bro. Yeah, it's like, why you're not on coach your Twitter, Al? Right, but like this is the exact example.

And I'm not trying to put you on the spot, obviously. But like, and the example, when you hear that is like, are you kidding me? Come to the community. There's so many people in the community calling out bullshit. Yeah. And I think they said some, there's some stat, like 75% of American Jews are like against what the, Israel's doing right now. Like, it's very lopsided. I think it's tired than that, actually. But I think what happens is you have very wealthy, famous ones like a Bob Kraft who are behaving

in this way, and then that trickles down on the community. But according to data, that's why. This is one of those times where everybody forgets what the actual issue is. I really truly believe that. Because whenever there's celebrity involved, it's always easy to pile on to the celebrity. And we start focusing on that individual that we forget what the actual issue is. The actual issue is institutions that want to silence free speech. Now, mind you, I always say you're not free from the consequences to said speech. So if you're the owner of one of these stadiums and you decide, hey, I don't want this person in my vicinity, you have every right to that. I don't know if I even agree with that.

Okay. If Bob, if that was weird, if he owned a club, let's say in New York City and McElmore was going to play there, and he said, all right, I don't want this. in my club, that's fine. There are a million other clubs McElmore could play, right? When you own something the size of Gillette Stadium, there's only one of those. It's kind of a public service in a way. My issue is who paid for it, the tax pay. That's what I'm saying.

They're funded. It's crazy they get to dictate who gets to go in there, who doesn't. We pay for it. Or the taxpayers in that. I see those as public spaces, financially, culturally. I think Bob spent a lot of his own money on you. You have to spend some, but if other people did, they're investors in it, and they

also should be able to sit on a board and have a I do, this is a great conversation. Other people I mean by the tax payer. I do feel like, you know, listen, man, we all know the things that come out of our mouth have consequences. And we just got to deal with it. I would almost imagine that every time McElmore gets on stage and makes that statement, he knows that there's going to be a consequence to that.

Or it could be a consequence to that. And I think if you know that and the consequence comes, sadly, you know, you ain't got no choice but to deal with it. So, all right, let's go back. Like, let's say that we could go back in history and, like, handle it differently, right? If you're Ed Sheeran or if you're the promoter, whatever it is. Oh, I like this. Do you do this? Do you say, hey, Bobcraft is not going to let us perform that stadium?

I'm going to cancel that stadium show. I'm going to cancel the stadium show because I believe in free speech from artists. He could still not take, like, the stance that he wants to, you know, he could still kind of, I hate that term, fencing, because I don't think that's fair, but like... He said that, I'm apolitical. My music's not about politics. He could take an apolitical stance, but he

could protect the artist. Like, my stance is, I'm going to protect an artist being able to say whatever they want to say, and the artist on my tour, we're going to be supported and saying whatever they want to say. So we're not going to do that show if they don't do it. He doesn't have to support anything. He maintains being apolitical, but

he doesn't get criticism because he supports an artist. Then let's say other stadiums start dropping out. If he goes any stadium that drops out, I'm also not going to do in support of Maccamore. I think eventually McImore goes, shit, man, I'm fucking you up right now. Man, like, I'm going to step down. And then, then Ed goes, I will cancel every single one. And I'm not going to force you to do the tour, but I will always support artists.

I think he gets no flack. I'm not mad at. Without actually saying anything. I think that if that's his goal to maintain his apolitical status. You can see it in the future. Yes, you can on situations like this. You think so? Yeah, because honestly, when you look at Robert Crafts,

statement that he put out where he said he was going to match Ed Sheeran's don't, match McElmore. Macamore said, I'm going to donate a million dollars, and he challenged Robert Kraft to match him, the Palestinian relief efforts. Everything Robert Kraft said in that statement is what should have happened before he made the decision to pressure them to take McElmore down. He should have said, hey, I want to sit down and talk to McElmore. Because that's what he said in the statement.

I'm willing to sit down and talk to McElmore. That's what should have happened. That's because I... Did he match it? I don't know if he did or not yet. weird because McElmore called him out to match it, but then he said he responded to Ed Sharon asking him to donate. But he also said he'd be willing to talk to Matthew. He did say he'll be willing. So to me, talk first. Get his context. That's it. Get his perspective. That's it.

And maybe you understand his context's perspective. We don't even have to worry about this. Before you call Ed and tell Ed, hey, you know, and call promoters and say, hey, this guy can't be on the show? Can I talk to this guy? Because, you know, Robert Kraft is the same person that spent money on the blue square, remember the commercial during the Super Bowl? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So clearly he wants to open up a dialogue, right? If you really want to educate people to what you believe is misinformation,

won't you sit down and have a conversation? I bet you y'all both learn something from each other. And now you're making people even more angry. Why not just sit down, let's have the conversation, and then everybody comes to some, you know, common ground. Because, by the way, if you listen to Macklemore's speech, you can tell it's a speech written to not really offend.

It's prepared for this moment. It's specifically, because, like, there was a different speech he had written when he was wearing a Ringo star outfit. That speech looks way different. Right? Like, and we would all like to see what that one looks like, right? But, like, he didn't give that one. He gave the one, like, I got to make sure I can get my message across while also, you know.

He was tip-torn around the landmines. Drew, I think your thing of what? which Sharon should have did. It would have helped, but I still feel people are upset because, like, if you stay, like, neutral for situations of injustice, you can't be, you're kind of still taking the side of the oppressors. So it's like, people just want him to say something and the fact that he's fencing. You can't be, you can't be neutral in this thing. Yeah. You can't be, listen. But here's the thing. Even if you are apolitical, it's like, this is injustice. So people just want to know, like, hey, do you agree with what's going on or

you don't? You can't, I don't know, Maca Moore apologize for 2014 costume featuring anti-Semitic troops. Hold on a second. I didn't know he looked like that. I might have to... Oh, you didn't see it? I might have to re-form. Now, he's saying he's Ringo,

but Ringo don't got a breather like that. What are you looking at? What are you looking at? He's Maclemore. Yeah, that cock on his face is saying a lot, bro. That suspect right there. So look... So just keep this in mind.

That's Mr. Marcus on soft. Remember Mr. Marcus on soft? I'm Mr. Marcus used to look on, saw. The point. Yeah, you know, you can't have that shit hanging off your face, bro. Now, that's like half Amish, half Jewish right there. I don't know what the shit is crazy. It's really crazy.

Why did he dress up like that? It's really crazy. So now if you got a video like that. And he apologized for it. But why do he apologize? Like, did he go? He apologized for, he said it was anti-Semitic tropes. No, I don't know if he apologized for that.

He's like, maybe I'm sorry for how this made people feel. It wasn't my, like, I don't think he was like, hey, I was trying to make fun of Jews. My bad. Let's see. Let's see what the apology says. Scroll up, Taylor. He was trying to make, this is... But this is one of those things where it's like, if you see that outfit and then you see what he's saying, it's going to inform your perspective. McElmore said in a lengthy post on his website, he did, he did not realize his choice

of costume, evoked anti-Semitic imagery, and apologize. What did he do? I got called bullshit on that. I don't know what he was trying to do, but that nose is... You didn't see Ringo Star? Ringo didn't have... They don't make noses like that. Is that what Ringo St? Can you bring up a... picture of Ringo Starr and put it right next to it.

Go back to your point about not being neutral on things like this. Maybe it's Ringo and then the star is like... I've checked. He's not too too much because it is starts. Maybe it's Ringo Starr of David. That was definitely Ringo Starr of David. That was definitely Ringo Starr of David. Listen. Oh, he does. Come on, man. Nah. Yeah,

no. No. But did Ringo ever even have a beer? No, you're talking about this picture right here. Hohenka, right? I'm a nose expert. Those nose is That picture right here Take it from a pro Listen, let's go back to what you was talking about When you said about remaining neutral Because this is the thing that I don't understand

Yeah When you're talking about this issue And I'm not even I'm not going back hundreds and hundreds of years I'm literally starting with October 7th, what year was it? Who 2004? What year was it, Chris? Sounds right

Yeah, I don't remember the day to day I know it was October 7 You have the reaction videos You can easily... Lead the internet right now, Charlemagne. You should easily be able to say 20,000 kids being killed in Palestine is wrong. If you can't say that.

And you should be able to say 1,200 people getting killed at a concert on October 7th is wrong. Like that shouldn't be controversial. You know what I'm saying? Like that's not something to remain neutral on. It's not even about picking a side. It's just wrong.

But that's not neutrality. Wrong is wrong. You're saying this is wrong. Right? Like, these are wrong acts. I put myself in other people's shoes. We got kids, bro. You know what I'm saying?

I don't want my kids getting killed in a war, right? I don't want to be at a concert. I have my kids in a concert and somebody just come and start killing my kids. You should be able to say all of that is wrong. Now, how do we fix it? I don't see why that's so difficult. Why is that so difficult? Well, because...

But that's why people are upset at Sherin. Well, he did end up saying it in his apology, and then his apology... No, but his apology was panned. And he was looked at his fence sitting and trying to ride the apolitical way... And once again, how are you more mad at Ed than you are at the owners

who clearly are not even considering the 20,000 kids that have been killed in Palestine? I don't think a lot of people... the people who have any expectation for Robert Bres. Exactly. See, I don't like that. Bingo. I get what you're saying, Chris, but I don't like that.

Robert Kraft is above their ability to negatively impact. Then you go. You impact the people. But this is the truth, like you impact the people you can negatively impact. You know what I mean? It's like, everybody knows now, like Trump's, for example, they know they can't do anything in Trump.

There's nothing you can do. Like, they've been yelling at Trump forever, and it's just, what did you call him, Teflon, Don? I don't know if he's so Teflon. He's so tough on now. No, no, he impacted him. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's the only one that can impact him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. His dumb-ass decisions are the thing they're impacting him, but not people. And when his supporters start turning on him. Yeah, yeah. Because of shit he did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not because of an article or because of a criticism, whatever. So it's like, I think you impact the people you can impact.

I mean, you can impact crap by not buying tickets to. Ain't nobody not going to a Patriots game in Massachusetts. I'm just saying, maybe some people would. I don't know about football. I'm just saying. Alex, stop. Oh, they love, we love football. Well, that's bad.

We put our love of football over what's going on. It's eight home games, bro. You might boycott like the soccer scene. But you're not boycott and the Patriots. That is a good point, though, because it's like, how do you hurt these people? You hurt people. You hurt people you can hurt.

You can act. You know what I'm saying? Like, Robert. Millions of dollars. But what you're saying is why I feel like the energy is always misdirected because we always go after the person we think we can hurt. But then the real problem is still there to impact the next individual. Yeah, I hear you.

I mean, like, look, I feel bad, Fred. I think what he could have communicated more is, like, a support for an artist that he put on the tour knowing full well what that guy stood for. It wasn't even, he should pull up the, there was another opening act of his that said something. He's basically saying what I'm saying. Billy Alex's his brother. That's what that was? And then also there was an Irish singer.

Is it an idiot? Yeah, I think he was one of the openers. He said what I said. He was like, I don't know why y'all going up the edge. I need to be going after the owner. I'm going to be honest. I think yous are all focusing on the wrong person here. All I keep hearing is Ed Shearing this, edge here and that.

When you really should be focusing on the likes of Robert Kraft, he really should be focusing on the Zionist lobbies that are trying to silence the voices of people who are shouting about genocide. The genocide that is happening in Palestine right now by Israel. Look, I know. know Ed's statement could have been a lot better. And I do think that Maca Moore shouldn't have been pulled off the tour. I fully believe it was panic stations over there

and they rushed the decision because they didn't know what to do because they were getting it from all angles. That's a mistake from a person. And I haven't had a chance to talk to Ed too much. But I fully believe he knows that was a mistake. Sherlock who's on the fucking line-up, yeah? Bioga, the most pro-Palestine group out there. A fucking bird.

Pro-Palestine. Fully pro-Palestine. I'ma. Need I say more? Me, everyone knows my stance on Palestine. Like, if Ed Shearham was a Zionist, why would he have all these

fucking people on the fucking tour? It was human error. You all know my stance on Palestine. I'll tell you right now, firsthand, I know Ed Shearin has done so much for so many people, including artists like me,

who he's literally changed their entire life. All he has inside of him is kindness. That is who Ed Shearing is. And yes, like every other human being, he makes fucking mistakes. I'm telling you now, there's people out there who don't fucking mistakes, and it's the likes of the governments of this fucking world.

The Irish government, I'm fucking looking at you, he's done fuck all. He's done absolutely fucking nothing about what has gone on, considering the fucking impact that the British Empire had in our fucking country. You're a disgrace each and every one of you is. You're a disgrace to that. fucking building that you stand in.

In the music industry, within the media, there are people with so much money and so much power that they're able to basically shut down any opinion that they don't agree with. You should be using this opportunity to plaster Robert Kraft face everywhere. Someone who tried to shut down free speech, someone who tried to silence the voices of people

who are shouting about genocide. That's what you should be using your energy on. Not fucking Ed Shearing, for f*** sake. Sure. But like also at the end of the day, the buck stops for them, right? It's like it's your tour. It's your tour. You get to do what you want on your tour.

I just don't, listen, what I'm saying is... I don't know about that. Because everybody said the promoters has been pulled McElmore up. But he is the ability to do the show or not do the show. The promoter doesn't tell you who your opening acts are. I think, I agree. Listen, I agree with everything you're saying. All I'm simply saying is when you have the institution that still exists,

it doesn't matter if it's Ed Shearing, McElmore, whoever, If you have those powers that be that can say, no, we don't want this for X, Y, and Z reasons, I think you got to take it up with the powers. Let me give you a different perspective. Okay. It's more close to home, right? Let's say, give me just a random, huge touring act, rapper. rapper, NBA Young Boy.

Okay, NBA Young Boy has an opener. And in the opening, he's saying, Black Lives Matter. And then one of the arenas goes, we don't want him to be saying Black Lives Matter, NBA young boy says, all right, kicker, you know, it's okay if he's not on the tour anymore. Wouldn't you be like, nah, I want you to stand up for that?

I want you to stand up for the opening act. Yes, but that still doesn't go after the power source. What I'm saying is the criticism of maybe not getting behind and supporting it is still there, but also there should be criticism At the power source. The power source. What I'm saying is it's not like...

I saw them say that they were protesting outside of Lincoln Financial Field the night Ed Shearing performed. And I'm saying to myself, well, you shouldn't just protest the night at Sharon performs. You should protest every night. You know what I'm saying? You should protest every single time they have an event there because that owner is one of the people who was like, nah, we'll put a... If McAmore was on his toll, he can't perform it. Also, like, Jeffrey Lurie? I forgot his man.

He's the Eagles owner. Why, did he do, did he say the MacGleman? Well, if you're saying that. It was like eight teams. I don't remember who all teams. Oh, a bunch of teams came out and said no? Oh, yeah. Robert rallied around.

Robert called the truth. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. No, you can't, you can't infringe on free speech. Do better, Jeffrey. That's all I'm saying. This is a free speech issue at the end of the end of the day, more than anything. So go after the actual institutions that are hindering free speech.

And now, but then that's where it's kind of on artists to be like, well, if that's going to be a place that doesn't support free speech, then we don't need to do shows in that place. Okay, I agree with that. Does an artist fundamentally have to support free speech? No artist. Is that part of the job of an artist? No, no artist has to. You get to decide what you do as an artist. What I'm just saying is that like free speech is what allows us to do all this shit. It just allows us to talk this shit on the show that we do right now. And any infringing on that for whatever the reason is is going to eventually trickle down to the rest of us. Like once it becomes common that if an owner doesn't like the political beliefs of the performer, then all the sudden, and none of those people with those political beliefs get to perform there. That's a very different scenario. And I know this is like a slippery slope argument or whatever, but it is something that's concerned. The very relevant argument,

because you can take it a step further and look at what happened with Trump banning the news. And what did the news stations do? They band it together because they understand that once you allow something like this, it's the slipperiest of slopes. Yeah, right. But there's a bit of a difference here, Chris,

because in that situation, there's only one person to go after. And to me, they're going after the right. They're going after Trump, and they're suing Trump. That's what they should do. In this situation, I feel like everybody should be going after Robert, but because there's a celebrity in the middle of this thing, and the other owners. And the other owners, everybody's going after just the one celebrity.

I think the news guys got it completely right. Yeah. I just think that there is a similar pathway that maybe would have appeased is not the right word, but like, you go after the institution. Sure, sure. Those organizations are suing. They're not just, they didn't just band together and say, oh, y'all not do it. They're suing Trump.

They're suing the Trump administration for this. Well, look, it's a dangerous moment. It's an unprecedented moment. We've never had a moment like this before. Never. So it's important for people to talk about it to people to speak out against it, and I don't have the solution. America don't even look right cosplay as an authoritarian regime.

What do you mean? It just don't, like, we're cosplaying as an authoritarian regime. This ain't us, bro. Like, this is not what Americans do. And I keep telling y'all over and over, y'all worried about the wrong people when it comes to having their freedom infringed on. What does that mean? Everybody looking at the minorities.

There ain't the minorities that's going to knock if you bucking in this country when it comes to getting their freedoms taken away. You think those whites are going to be. It's them whites. It's our cracker, God damn it. It's vanilla ISIS, okay? Think about how, listen, when they thought an election was being stolen from them, who stormed the Capitol?

A diverse group of a patriot. Okay, all right. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. They're not going for this. And I'm watching it. I'm like, as soon as they figure out, Watch the election time.

Election time is when it's really going to get crazy. You saw it with the ICE stuff a little bit when they started saying like he shouldn't have had a gun. You saw a lot of like very right wing conservatives come out and said, whoa, whoa, what the fuck you mean? He shouldn't have a gun. You see what I'm saying? He's an American and he has the right to hold a gun.

Like you saw that pushback. It's Americans, there are things that, you know, that they identify around and you cannot infringe on that identity. Donald Trump shut all of the independent journalists Out of the White House, right? Immediately, Fox News, CNN, MS now, I think it was NBC, political, all came together to say, no, no, no, no, no, no. So now, I was watching Fox the other day,

they cut from J.D. Vance and was like, we'll come back to him when he's really talking about something. This November, the Democrat Party is running candidates for Congress who call for quote. All right, you have been listening to Vice President Vance talking to voters ahead of the mid. In Midterms in Battleground, North Carolina. He's in Greensboro this afternoon.

We will bring you right back to this rally if he starts to make news. They're going to put him in timeout. They put Trump in time out. Yo, when Trump was doing a White House president, it was on mute. You couldn't even hear it. They wouldn't even play the audio. Okay. So there is no microphone because there's no microphone because the pool cameras aren't there.

So maybe, Tim, this is one example of it backfiring just a little bit. pick up on or some of things Michael was saying. And obviously the ramifications are right here. Can't hear what the president's saying. So my point is when you start seeing that happen, all right. Watch when Al Cracker get bucking. Okay.

Yo, I didn't get Al Cracker until you said Vanilla Isis. But if you start with vanilla ISIS, it primes me for terror organizations and then Al-Qaeda Al-Krakehrakeh, makes perfect sense. But vanilla ice has got to be the... The lead. That's got to be the lead.

The lead. 100%. Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, they're going to be the ones that preserve democracy. I'm telling you. Yeah, I don't know about that.

All right, Chris. They're the only ones with the heart? Damn, bro. They're the only ones? The heart to go do that type of shit. Yeah. What are y'all talking about? I mean...

Bro, they do defend their shit. They get the fuck out of here. Y'all are looking it. They got the militia. What? Yeah, they're like, we're not paying taxes You're watching lanterns? Are you watching?

I didn't see the latest episode, but yeah. You saw the last episode? I didn't see the latest episode. I saw the one before that. The one before? The one through five. Okay, but you've seen enough of it to see that the militia that's in lanterns.

Yeah, but they were backed by an alien. Sure. White supremacy is an alien. Okay? There's a million of those across the country. I'm telling you, as soon as they, it's not they're realizing it now. Like, oh, no, no, no, no.

There's still America at the end of the day. Yeah. Like, they're not going, this. They don't say we don't got heart. The civil rights movement, we had a lot of heart during that. Like, come on. No, I'm not talking about. Will knock if we got a buck.

Bro. I'll stay. Listen to me. We will. Listen to me. It's a difference. Okay. There's a difference between the civil rights movement and violent revolution.

And I'm not calling for violent revolution. I'm just telling you who I think is willing to actually go there. You're talking about. America in 2004. Revolutionary war type shit. Yes. There's a difference between, I think, who's fighting an oppressive government. Yes.

There's a difference. And you know why there's a difference? Because that group of people, those white people, have actually experienced real freedom. We don't even know. So they know what they got someone to lose? They know what they're losing. Okay. They understand what they're losing.

I see what you're saying. Okay. We don't even really understand what we're losing. We're looking at y'all like, oh, now y'all know how we feel. Yeah. Okay. Now y'all know how I feel to have you. civil rights and fringe deported.

You guys are kind of rooting for it. You're like, finally, we're even. Yes, go, man. Take your, take your, take your, right away. And if I can be like this, take the country back. This is our country, well, take your country back, God damn it. Okay?

We used to dealing with it. We as black people are used to dealing with that. Yo. Okay? This shit ain't none of us used to dealing with. Fascism, none of us are used to dealing with it. Authoritarianism, none of us are used to dealing with it. Okay?

That's different. That's different than racism and white supremacy, guys. Okay? Okay? Just bring back the good old racism and white supremacy. All right? That works for hundreds of years.

We can't. We need what we could. We ought to navigate through that. Yeah. We know how to navigate through that. So then what's it take? What's the breaking point? I think it's breaking right now. I think it's breaking right now.

Because, number one, people's pockets are fucked up. The economy is fucked up. You know what I'm saying? If people was getting money and the economy was booming, it would be hard to get people to pay it, to the stuff they're paying attention to now. I was speaking to a gentleman who was in the nightclub business. And he said, it is decimated.

Everybody got no money for no nightclub? Well, he said the cost of everything has gone up. So it's not only like you can still generate. He said a few different things happened. He was like the whole bottle service industry was really like hinged on foreigners with a lot of money. So people from the Middle East, people from South America, basically... Same thing that happened to the fucking real estate in New York City. So when you clamp down a little bit on immigration or make it less palatable or make it

less easy for them to come or maybe there's conflict out there so they're not willing to travel as much or, you know, money's a little tighter or whatever. So the whole bottle industry basically in the last 10 years has been a fugazi, maybe the last 20 years. It's not kids that are buying bottles, right? It's just super wealthy people who maybe now are pulled in different. directions or maybe not party. And then he said these kids nowadays, they don't drink, which is maybe a good thing. But they don't socialize. Like in their brain, they're not like, I'm going to meet a girl out. They're like, I'm going to meet a girl in the apps. And it's just

completely changed nightlife. He goes, the industry's making money now that are like casinos because it's 40 and up going. And we still come one, like we were fortunate enough to maybe buy a house when rates were fucking 2%. We're fortunate enough to have money in the stock market before we went crazy. So it was like all those people still feel good They still spend they still party They still socialize But the young kids said he's like It's not happening

They are not going to now I was in Vegas this past Crazy right I was for the IHard Radio music festival You know I used to go to Vegas And you'd hear You'd actually hear about it I'm not saying they're not there gambling

But you would hear about it Like regular conversation Like I'm going to the casino I'm going to see it That is you don't even hear that in Vegas Like that anymore Because it's just it's entertainment Like you know what I mean?

So you're saying they're not gambling? I'm not saying you don't hear about it. It's not the main attraction. It don't feel like the culture of Vegas anymore. I could be completely wrong. I only go out there a couple of times a year. But to me, when I go to Vegas, I don't feel like the culture of gambling is still what it is to be.

And that's not a good thing because they're not making money on all those events. They're making money on you at the fucking slot machine. Vegas making some money somewhere because they got fucking, they got the baseball team coming there. They got the basketball team coming there. Like they're building the Oakland A Stadium. What I'm more. saying is, is that the most profitable things that they have are gambling related.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not these big entertainment things. These entertainment things are there so that we go gamble. Right. But if we're going there and not gambling, they can't afford to pay for these residencies. Listen, when we flew, I went through Vegas early this summer to go to GZZ and Mary Jay Blige's residency, and you got people flying in just to go to those. But by the way, maybe we're just realizing it now.

Maybe that's how it was back in the day when people would fly to Vegas just to go. go to those places. Now, you made a weekend out of it. Yeah. And back in the day, this is what I heard about Vegas, is that they're gouging. Meaning back in the day, you used to go there, get a room for almost nothing. Right. You get free drinks while you're on the gambling floor. That's right. And you'd have a fucking world class like buffet type food for almost nothing. So you're eating good, you're drinking good, and you're staying in a beautiful room. And the only thing you got to do is have fun gambling. That was the deal. And you felt like a fucking, not a or whatever, but you felt like really taking care of.

What about when you're going out there to see Frank Sinatra or somebody? Well, I think that was all part of it. And the idea was, hey, in this town, everybody feels important. And now you go there and the room is just as much as the room in Miami. The room is just as much as the room in L.A. And you got to pay for drinks on the floor. And one other thing. Yeah.

In the past, that was your only opportunity to gamble. There was nowhere else. Now you couldn't gamble online. Now you couldn't do all this other stuff. You get to Vegas. I've got to get some shit off. I'm never going to be able to gable. You're giving money to a bookie and a bar

with a leather jacket back in the day. Now it's right on your phone. I wonder what it is about cities with mad casinos that make me sleep so good. Tell me. I get some of the most peaceful rest in Atlantic City and in Las Vegas. They don't want you sleep.

I love being in Vegas and turning all the lights off and just opening the window and letting the lights from all of the shit outside just light up the room. That shit is heaven to me. Really? What? Because I don't gamble.

I'll be in the room. I go after the high festival, I was back in my room. 11 o'clock ordering room service. By the way, four seasons warm chocolate chip cookie? Oh, unbelievable. Woo. Unplily. Boy, life is something else, man.

It was a time I thought the double tree cookie was amazing. Dude, the double tree cookies was good. It was. It did slap until you get that warm chocolate chip cookie from four seasons. But still, that's how little shit do we need. Remember the double tree fucking cookie? Fire. You thought you were at the five.

This hotel on a planet with cookie. It's so easy to make us feel good. Fire. Fire. The JetBlue chocolate chip cookie right upon landing. Do you remember that? No. JetBlue got a chocolate chip cookie?

Yeah, it would be like, I think it's JetBlue. I know, it doesn't matter. It's like, it's kind of interesting. Like these hotels and these different franchises will spend all this money on like ornate shit in a room that we never even notice. You give us a warm fucking cookie. Fire room. What you're saying is so true.

Hotels, if you got great room service. Like the four seasons in Vegas has fantastic food and that warm chocolate chip cookie. Me and my wife fell asleep, high as a motherfucker laying in the bed. And when I woke up that cookie, it was like a half of cookie just sitting there. And it was two big ones.

All over the shoots. Looks like you shit. It's no telling what the housekeeper thought we did. It's crazy. It's no telling. Now that I think about it, I'm like, shit. Yeah. Yeah, because those cookie chips were warm, bro.

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Now let's get back to the show. Let's do some church announcements, Heather Kyle Walker. What you got? Yo, thank you guys so much, Houston for selling out the shows. And just what a fucking awesome, that's an awesome city, man. Houston is like, you would not think this because it's in Texas, but Houston might be one of the most diverse cities in the nation. Yeah, it's mad Hispanics.

Latinos, Latinos, it's Asians. There's a huge Vietnamese population. Oh, yeah, that's why Y'all Ming was so big back then. There's a huge Dacey population. So you got, like, a lot of Indians, Pakistanis, and, like, it just makes for the best show. Because you just got all these different people. Those are my favorite versions of the show, right? And whatever, so it was just fucking great.

And I'll be at this Nyack this weekend, man. Thank you guys for selling out the shows up in Nyack. And then Theandris Shows.com for the rest of it. the shows. I know we're coming to Alabama. We're coming to Columbus. We're coming to Indianapolis. And I think there might be one more. Theandri Shultz.com. Oh, Cleveland, I think, is sold out. Raleigh is sold out. But Theandrus Salis.com. Thank you guys so much. Also, October 16th,

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Okay, there's a completely free event, free for all ages, all right? I have a church announcement. Oh, God. Nobody's going to do this. First of all, I have entered. I know you have entered your, well, you didn't, but your sister entered your name. nephew in. Oh, yeah. Baby of the year, and I'm not scared to say I'm that

parent. Please vote for my son to be baby of the year. You could go... Do you know what babies were born this year? I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Okay, he was born in last year. Let's be clear. So... He doesn't even qualify. Yes, he does. He's so baby. Anyways. Did you, first of all, did you vote?

I'm still decided... You are full of it. Little River is... You're full of it. All right. No, he's not. So look. You know, this guy is a... He's out of control. So please go. It's kind of your fault because you let him fucking rile you up. It's so cute.

You know, I will say something later because you're going to get. He was number one until she came on the radio pandering today. Wait, which one was River, though? What does River look like? He had these blue eyes. River is, I saw River. Yes, man. No, River is adorable.

You're going to be called. You're really full of shape. If you only know what. He's going to be called dreamy. Dreamy. Watch. Shout out River, man. River.

Also vote for River. Like, we- Do you stop? What? Like, first of all, first of all, stop. Vote for Alexander James. Wait,

are you doing this? Are you dead ass right now? Your nephew's competing? Yep. And he's number one right now. No. Which one is your nephew? They're in different.

Alexander James what? Are you dead ass right now? Currently number one. Currently number one. Are you dead ass right now? No, no, no, no, it's different groups. He's not in the same. Oh, okay.

Wait, what group is you? I don't know. I thought there's just one kid. No. I just was like, you didn't realize how not in your group? No, P is number one right now in whatever group he, oh, no, he's dropped. Yeah, he's got to, no, he's nine seconds. I think this is a scam, yeah.

This is the biggest fucking. Are you serious right now? Because you can pay for votes. That's the phone, though. I am trying to get my son a vote and you will. over here. All of y'all. What does your son win if he wins? $25,000. Damn.

A national ad campaign with the Honest Company, which is And you brought me those diapers. Salute to Jessica Arbor. That's the homie. And you get celebrated in variety. This is actually kind of fire. I'm not going to... Thank you. So please go to baby... But it's all based on looks?

No, we wrote down... It is super special. Like, what about personality? We did talk about personality. He didn't look through all the things. I see you You added the Bible. I sure did. You added it. You added it.

Because I told her, I said, you got to have more than looks. Because River has more than just those eyes. Did you even see what River looks like? Yeah. First of all, he's lying about River. Patrick can walk at 10 months, right? And he dances. I've seen it with my own eyes.

Exactly. And I'm like, man, why isn't he dancing like this? Is that? But River can read. No, he can't. Stop lying. He is done. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Nah, we got to support that. He could be. River can read. River can read it 10 months? River can read. Let me just say something.

That is interesting. God is watching all of y'all and he sees the lies. You know who God's really watching? River, man. They couldn't be able to read it 10 months? How do I get to the other people? Exactly. Exactly.

You don't. Because you're lying. I don't get to other people. Shout out the River, man. Shout out the little people. I'm going to remember this. Okay. Y'all out the little people, man.

Okay. What's the website? Thank you. Please go to babyof the year.org slash 2026 slash Patrick P-A-C-K dash 27A-8. All right.

And vote for Alexander James White. There you go. Let me see. I just could never have the... Half-black, half-white. Oh. There ain't no half. That's about...

That's a black baby. That's about 90% white. No, well, it's quarter black, quarter of Puerto Rican. Half white. The black, quote. Oh, okay, okay, okay. What else we got, Taylor, gang? I don't like how, yeah, I'm mad disgusted with all of y'all.

Disgusted. I'm going to tell PJ about this and I'm going to make sure. Tell me. That he's not fucking with you for real. I'm supporting you. I'm supporting you and I'm going to vote for you. Why don't, listen, here's the thing. Yeah.

I would have voted for Pete. You would have? Why are you nice? They sent me the list. And I just started scrolling. And I was just like, there's competition. There's no competition at all. And you know it.

But what you're trying to do is like... Stop. Listen, Solomon doesn't believe in DEI. Like, he's merit-based. He clearly does. You know? That's all I said. I say, well, what do the babies do?

Okay? I need some skills. They can't just be cute. What's the skill set? I heard a great. I heard a great... First of all, my son knows how to jump. My son was actually taking his first step.

nine months and start walking at 10. And he can dance. And he can dance. He can definitely dance. He can dance his ass. I heard a great argument for DEI, by the way. What's the argument? I'll leave the guy's name out of it, right?

But black dude, right? And, like, worked at the top of finance and all the different things. And he was, like, explaining to some other people that were, like, kind of against DEI. And he's like, listen, I was at the top of insert one of the biggest banks ever, Global Fund. He goes, we had a friends and family thing over here at this bank where people would call me up and be like, hey, my nephew, can you give him a job? Hey, my niece, can you give him a job? Whatever, blah, blah, blah. And we did it.

And that was the policy. Were they, like, he goes, that's DEI. He goes, you're totally fine with DEI when it helps you get your niece and nephew. Of course. But the second it's getting a black kid into this school or getting a brown kid into this. school, all the sudden it's like, oh, it has to be all merit-based. And it's like corporations are fine with socialism when they go fucking belly up. And they want to get paid out, 100%.

You're just now hearing of nepotism, bro. No, no. I've heard it. I've heard it. But what I'm telling you is that like there is a nepotism is like an amorphous idea. This is a company policy at the biggest banks and institutions in the world, some of which the people that are like powerful figures at these banks have been rallying against DEI when it comes to like the university level.

And he had to sit them down and literally be like, guys, you are asking me to do DEI for your nieces and nephews. And you have no problem with this, but now you're yapping on Twitter about DEI at Harvard and it's like, it can't go both ways. It's like when you want it to benefit

you, then we also have to look at circumstances that could benefit people who aren't in positions of power like you. And it was just a, it was a great way of like explaining it where they really couldn't say anything. Hey, kind of just were like, uh, salute to John O'Brien. John O'Brien says that, uh, DEI is not charity, but is a hard economic strategy necessary to keep the entire nation prosperous because he says there are not enough college educated,

successful white men to drive U.S. GDP growth alone over the next 20 to 30 years because consumer spending drives roughly 70% of the U.S. GDP. The nation's economic future requires full participation and economic inclusion from all demographics, including women and minority communities. And with the minority populations growing and projected the form of large share of the population, excluding these groups from wealth-building, homeownership, and entrepreneurship, risk stalling the broader economy and losing America's global competitive edge.

You know, it's interesting. Even with the DIY shit, it's like, especially at the university level, it's like, everybody would be cool with getting rid of DEI if you also got rid of legacy. It's not go crazy So what legacy is Is like basically if you went to Harvard Your kids kind of get into Harvard Now do they get in because you think your kids are good in school

No They get in because you've been donating Hundreds of thousands of dollars Every single year to that institution And of course Building up their endowments right So they also don't deserve to get in But their parents have been paying for the last 20 years

So eventually they're going to get in So if you get rid of DI Also get rid of legacy If you're not willing to get rid of legacy, what you're basically... A lot of colleges are. Well, if they are... They are. If they are, then that's...

I'm counting on legacy for my kid and I'm getting nervous. These colleges will never be rid of... These colleges don't even for fucking sense. I haven't either, bro. And I'm not going to. I didn't use the... If I was a psychologist, maybe I'd give them some money, but I'm a comedian, so I didn't use that education. I'm definitely donate.

I'm just waiting to make sure this is where my daughter going to be. That's all I'm waiting. No, she's supposed to donate. That's what they're banking on, not you. Oh, when she graduated, do you mean? They want her to make a lot of money and start giving back to the school. Yeah, but they want her daddy to donate now.

Of course they do. Sure. You're supposed to donate to get her in. Listen, tuition is pay for, but no, listen, my daughter's schooling, I got no shame. They ask that early. What I'm trying to say is this. And they give to, and by the way, comes with perks.

I ain't going to see it and act like it don't come with perks. But that's the thing. It's like there's a lot of people. listen, I totally get the idea of like a meritocracy and you don't want to lose a job to someone less qualified. I get that, right? And you want everything to be even like when it comes to sports or whatever like that. Hey, we're all competing for this thing. I completely understand it. But there is this version with a lot of people who rally against DEI where it's like, DEI for me, but not for the. Yep. That's right. Right. And it's like you can't meet a person

that's hanging your hat on we got to get rid of DEI while you're using it actively. That's right. Yep. So I get that pushback on the hip-box. If you're one of those people that were basically like, look, my kid's not good enough to get in this school. He doesn't deserve to be here. And I'm also against DEI. I don't know if I can say that much to you. If you're not willing to use the nepotism, you're not willing to do it. I might still say, hey, there are certain circumstances where this is actually good and it helps build our country and give opportunity to people that might not have it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yada. But at least you yourself would be principal. But don't be not principal. Suppose you're DEI, you get into the top school. You go on to have a good career. Should your kids get

that'd be legacy. Now we're talking, because, yes. No. Well, don't. You get double, why not? You should get legacy and DEI. No, because the argument would be give that spot to somebody else. Exactly.

That's not fair. Because white men don't have to get another. I can be a white male and rich. I can have white male privilege and have the money. I know, I won it all. Nah, nah. You fuck out. This is how they get like that.

You're doing the exact thing they do. That spot's got to go to a poor Asian kid is what I think. Exactly. No, the D-E-I spot should go to the poor Asian kid. That's what he's saying. Yeah, but the legacy spot should still go to BlackBet. No, he's saying no legacy. No legacy.

Nah, you got it. It's either D-I plus legacy or no D-I and no-Legis. By the way, I love that. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts. I don't think that's corrupt. I don't think legacy is corrupt power. They don't think that either.

I think it's a track record. Nobody thinks what they do is corrupt. It's a track record. It's a track record. I put a lot of points on the board over the years. That's got to count for something. Yeah, you want pay to play. What's wrong with that?

What's wrong with that is you're supposed to be accepted to this institution based on your merits, not based on how much your dad. What about your daddy's marriage? What about your daddy? But, hey, listen, now you're talking like those billionaires. Talk your shit. Well, I'm all my way. What is I'm saying?

What else we got to? You really did make the worst time in history to become a billionaire, bro. You're going to get a billion dollars in this. and they're just going to kill all of y'all. I'm going to be gone somewhere. But you know what, though? It's all about what you do with the money. That's all.

That's literally all it's about all. You just get your daughter into college. All people are asking billionaires to do is the right thing with their money. Stop hoarding all the wealth. That's it. I'm trickling down. What are you talking about?

I'm sure billionaires would say. It's trickling right now. I can hear it outside. This is Chris Monroe sarcasm. I'm not a billionaire, but I make sure mine trickle down because I invest in things that I care about. You don't, it's not trickle with you.

It's rain. You're like, I'm going to make it rain here. I'm going to make a rain here. I'm going to make a rain here. What they claim is just by existing. Their whole thing is like, just by me existing as a billionaire, everyone else is rich to. And I think that's where people start to go like,

well, hold on, man. The Mental Wealthexpo is a free event. I'm doing it for six years. Yeah. Okay, I got a whole round of scholarships going out to South Carolina State in a couple of weeks. Okay, been doing that for seven, eight years as well. Like, it's just like, you know, you donate to what you donate to what you want to donate to.

You donate to what you believe in. You hear that guy, spare him when he gets a billion, man. Good guy. I don't think I'll never see a billion. Because I give away too much of it. Oh, you're good. Oh, my gosh. Hey, bro, here you go.

You go. Taylor, am I not a fair? No, you are, but I'm saying, but that doesn't mean you're not going to get it, though. The more established you're going to. I can't ever see myself having a billion dollars. liquid. That's crazy. That's even a bigger flex because that means he's going to get it, but he's just going to get it. Oh, I'm going to know. By the way, I'm going to get it. Yeah, I know. And by the way, that's not even as an individual, that's not even a goal of

mine. It's just that when you're institution building, you know what your institutions are worth. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'll show y'all something with a head when we get this. I'm just saying, like, you can have investments in companies that might have valuations. That's how most people get it. You see what I'm saying? Or you could be deviant. Or you could be divorced into it like most women. And I'm not saying I... Shut up. And I'm not saying I have that.

Women become billionaires. They divorce themselves into it. Shout out to them, though. They become a great philanthropist, yo. Melinda Gates and Jeff Bezos's ex-wife. Yeah. Woo. What's her name?

McKenzie Scott? Amazing philanthropists. I mean, they give it. They give out. And you can tell they only do it to piss off their fucking ex-husband. Because they do it to life. That doesn't piss them off. Give it away.

You don't think so? You don't think he wants her to be broke? See, come on, man You're crazy You never go broke with that kind of money, man You gotta be doing everything wrong To go broke with that kind of money, yeah But give it away!

Give it away, give it away, give it away, give it away now What else we got, Taylor, gang? Choose one. What if Village, what is that one? What if Village is retarded? Yeah. Taylor. Look, listen.

Taylor, Taylor, I don't know what this is. This is what someone say that Did you see this? Oh, I did see this. It's funny as shit. It's old. Play this. It's old. Oh, it just popped up with my. Yeah, this is with Mayor Brandon Scott bought a, hey, I knew the brother's name too. He brought this brother from Baltimore to talk. Oh, I see this. Play this shit. This shit's so funny.

You got audio. I am. You know how we said take a villas to raise a child, but what if the village is retard? What'd you think is going to put the ears? That man, that's Brandon Scott. Saluted Mayor Brandon Scott from Baltimore, man. He's the fucking G. Go run that again.

I need to see it again. But he's right, though. Press play. Yeah. In disarray. You know how we said take a villas to raise a child. But what if the village is retar? Keep going.

What'd you think is going to put these? Bro, seeing them break behind him. Yo, shout out to the fight. My guy. What's his name, man? Listen, why are we so busy laughing at him? and worrying about political correctness, when we should really focus on the merit of what he said.

It takes a village to raise a child, but what if the village is fucking retarded? You're going to raise some retarded-ass children. Exactly. Yeah. Like, we're always blaming these kids for shit when it's the fucking adults. Who they're learning it from?

No better. Yeah. Like, I'm not mad at nothing he said, okay? He used the exact word that need to be used, man. There's nothing wrong with the R word. What? They're legitimate. Okay, there's nothing wrong with the all.

Listen, I can use the all word. What? Okay, I'm the most retarded person you know. All right. Okay. All right. Bro. Nobody can tell me I can't use the all word.

I remember I was doing Dax. I grew up around nothing but retarded. I thought I was doing Dax Shepard's podcast, and his co-host was like, felt a little uncomfortable that I said retarded in the special. And she's like, yeah, but, you know, you know, you, you, feel like that's whatever. And I was like, yeah, but you have to understand, like, my sperm is retarded. I was like, I can say it. Like, you can't. Like, you don't have retarded space. Why, why blame it on the sperm? Just claim it. That's me. No, but you're,

you're retarded. Who makes the sperm? Ooh. That's right. I'm a retard factor. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that, you know. I want to ask a question, but there's no women here except for Taylor, so I don't want to. What does that mean? No, because it's about hysterectomies and fibroids and all of that type of stuff. Oh. I had a fibroid before. You had a fibroid?

I have one now. It's smaller. Oh, it's small. Because I was talking about Portia Williams, right? And Portia had a hysterectomy because she had 21 fibroids. Oh, my God, look. And Portia has already had a child. She wanted more.

Yep. You know what I'm saying? But she was not able to have more. I've had a divorce. I have my child and I have a great support system. And I'm thinking, maybe I want to have a child. another child. I've always fantasized about having a little boy or maybe a little sister for her. Even asking her about it. And I ended up going with a friend to see about getting her eggs frozen

at our age. You know, if you want to have kids, you got to do that. And I said, well, let me hop on the table. You know, it's my fertility doctor, pretty familiar with her. And she started looking into, you know, doing the exam, and she went silent. And I looked at the screen and all I could see was like black. And then I started seeing some circular lines. And I'm like, not again. Not again. And she immediately, they had come back. They had come back.

She immediately sent me to a fertility specialist within the next couple days. When I went to the fertility specialist, she was again silenced. And when she did the vaginal check, she was in shock because everything had pretty much flattened. She sent me straight to get an MRI within the next two hours and then scheduled a surgery within the next two weeks. And it really got me to thinking, I don't know why this quote popped in my head, but I wanted to say, but I wanted to ask the question, if you already have kids, that's the caveat to this, that's the context.

If you already have kids, one kid, two kid, whatever it is, if you already have kids, is it better to have had a uterus and lost it or to have never had a uterus at all? How can you have kids if you don't have one at all? Is it better to have had a uterus and lost it? to have, is it better to have a uterus and lost it

than to never had a uterus at all? So meaning you had a uterus, you had kids, but then you ended up having to have a hysterectomy and getting removed so you can't have anymore. Try, that just literally happened to my friend. What? Wait, hold on. Sorry.

Give the hypothetical. Yeah, yeah, finish the hypothetical. Because the other side, that means never had kids and never had a uterus, is what you're saying. Whatever side allows you to have kids. Got you. 100%. Yeah.

So if you've already had kids and you lose your uterus, it's easier to deal with them. I can't tell anybody what's easier or harder to deal with, but I can't imagine someone would rather not have a child than have one. Yes, and the women that were calling the radio station this morning, that was their thing. Like, they all had grief because they didn't have kids.

What I noticed was the ones who already had kids dealt with it a lot better. Even if they wanted to have more, they can at least say, yo, I at least had a child. I'm grateful. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I... Well, it depends also their mindset.

They never wanted kids also, then it doesn't matter. That's true, too. How many women know that they really don't want kids, though? More increasingly. Yeah. Why? Because it's financials? I think...

I think some of it stems from their upbringing. Like, if they've seen a struggle with their mom, being a single parent, then they're like, oh, I don't want kids at all, then. Yeah. I will say, I know. Oh, go ahead. You said what? My girls never won a kid. And she told me that from get-go.

Really? Yeah. Do you think that if y'all had a... Oh, no, I got to see her birth certificate. I'm from Spain. Alex, no. Very different. Got to have a question, though.

Do you think, though, if y'all, like, she ended up being pregnant, you think she'll get rid of it? Really? With your relationship and everything? Do you think that would... I would think that would... No hesitation. No, I mean, because we spoke about her, of course. Yeah.

Yeah, but still, when it's in the happen, like, it's like... How many are you going to happen? Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. My man got, my man got... Because I'll be honest. You remember how you said?

Remember how you said, when you dropped your daughter off, you heard the kid scream. No, stop. Stop. Oh, my God. Don't make me. Stop. Stop. You're going to hell, man.

You go to hell. You and now. I'll be honest, I didn't know. Oh, my God. I didn't know if I wanted kids, though, until I got pregnant, yeah. And then? And then when you're in the, it's like. Shout out to Pete!

You don't ever tell Pee what the fuck you want, guys. Yes. Shut. Shut. Can I say, though, like, in the moment. Can you say? Call Pee and asking you say anything. You don't understand.

Can you stop? Don't do that. Don't you speak on matter of the house. That is not the housebook. That is not the houseboat. I'm going to make. I'm going to make sure that P gave you permission to speak about it. True.

You can't even spell permission without P. Right. Okay. Stop playing with him. You can't even spell playing without P. God damn it. Let the man of the house speak. You see what I'm saying?

You got a lot of opinions, man, but just let him be the one that communicates them. Don't just be talking. Yeah, you're just talking out there. Can I explain, though, when I was in the moment of it, it changed, like, I thought I'd be like, oh, if I was forget, pregnant, like, no, like, if it's not the same situation how I thought it was going to be. Yeah. But that's harder than... You said you don't want no more, though.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, Pete, Big Pete said. Big Pete said he wanted some more kids. No, it's what you said, though. After a year, it's like, okay. You can take a breath, right? Yeah, that first year is so hard, dude. As a first parent, like, it's really hard.

It's hard. We did them every three. Our last few was every three. I think that's the right pacing. Me and my siblings are four and a half years apart. Three is perfect. I think closer because I was five and a half with my brother and it was like there was just a, it was a distinct difference in maturity

where it was harder to connect on stuff and do things. Like obviously we're friends, but I always felt like an adult compared to him. Whereas like, I even see my kids now and like my two-year-old wants to play with the baby. Yeah. They're not that far off. And maintain three years apart, it's perfect.

I got an 11-year-old and my other two turn eight and five literally this week. So it's like, it's perfect. Like I can't even, like they, they call them the three live crew. Like they're just perfect. It's just a perfect little bunch. What else we got? Yo, AI shit, yo is crazy too. I got a hot take on this.

Talk to me. Which one you talking about? Which one? Which one? Oh, I thought we're just talking about like all these companies coming together. Yes, and saying that they need to basically slow this shit down. I think this is what's called regulatory capture. So what it means is like they're trying to push the government.

Basically the two biggest companies, Open AI and what is the other way? Anthropic or whatever. They're basically going to the government and they're going to go, hey, we're going to let you in all of our books. You can be in all of our shit. Just shut down all the other ones so we don't have to compete with them. That's right. And we can do it in the guise of safety, not saying that AI doesn't. have safety concerns, but I don't know if any AI companies really concerned about safety.

What I think they're concerned about is their bottom dollar. So they're like, stop making us compete with all these other fringe little motherfuckers. Shut all them down. We'll say that you have access to us and we're, you know, an arm of the United States government. Our IPO goes through the roof. Because now you only got two companies that you can invest in or the other handful that exists right there. But I think that's what this is actually about.

But can you, you can't do that. Because like all the sudden these companies that seem to have not cared at all about the concern of AI all of a sudden they're like well guys we got to take it seriously well i i i agree with you and i i wholeheartedly believe that theory and i even talked to people way smarter to me about that theory but then my other thought was something happened that they didn't want to tell us about and then that's that's when this shit started to come out the AI model jemini went rogue hacking three companies charlotte something happens every day they don't tell us about that shit probably been happening for the last five years yeah but you got every you got to tell us

if AI is going to tell us. Well, yeah, maybe it doesn't. Yeah, you might be right. I don't know, man. I think that whatever they know about AI, we're probably too far gone. Because I had a billionaire tell me one time anything they introduced to the public,

trust me, they already been using for 30 years. That's kind of how I feel about technology. Like, if this is what we got, man. NASA got some reason. Man, man. All right, let's take a break and pay some bills. All right, we're back.

Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor, gang. Wait, wait, wait, before this is... No, look! Look what malt liquor company offers cash to proof of Bigfoot. Mortlicker company offers cash for proof of Bigfoot. Hard Mountain Dew is offering a million dollar prize for concrete evidence of Bigfoot. Contestants must provide footprints, handprints of hair, audio and photographic evidence.

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in what? Basically. So it's like woods underground type of shit. That's where I think the bigfuss are. Yeah, that's probably where that happened, man. You don't believe in Bigfoot? No, he doesn't.

It's just the primate in the woods, bro. Get your million dollars in since you know where they're at. Can I make, do I have to, why do I have to get it all? Jesus Christ. Why do you don't want me to have it all? Like, God, why? Let's do some asking you. And we're not, no, you're not ready yet for that.

Because you didn't talk about Taylor Swift being the DMTV. Because we don't give a fuck. I thought that was your girl. Who? Him. Andrew don't be following Taylor Smith anymore. Taylor Swift is getting an award. She's going to be the first.

Taylor Swift got married and white guys dropped her. Wait, what happened? What happened with Taylor Swift? She's going to be the first artist to, our first recipient of this MTV Director Award. And what does it mean? For her work behind the camera.

Yeah. Oh, cool. Shout out Taylor Swift, man. She gave like hundreds of millions of dollars and bonuses to her team and that was fine. And you want to talk about Jay-Z? What does Z do?

Shut up. Oh, documentary. I'll miss last week. So, like, all that was happening. Oh, I thought the Colin Kaepernick. What happens? Catch me up to speak. Well, the doc team out this weekend.

The doc was cool. I had my reservations about the doc when I saw it at the premiere. Why? It was really just all because of Rick Rubin. I'm like, I'm like, why? Like, I understand that Rick Rubin has a reverence for music. I just didn't know if he had a reverence for Jay Z's music. And when I was watching it at the premiere, like Jay, I mean, Jay carries the doc, right?

Like, by far, he carries the doc. But Ruben was just pissing me off with some of his questions because it's just like he just wasn't going. as deep as I wanted him to. It was very, very, very surface level. He was playing dumb and a lot of it, too. I don't think he was playing. No, I think he knew a lot of it stuff. I don't believe that, Chris.

I see, that's what we did. I don't believe that. I think that he has a reverence for music. I think Rick Rubin can hear any type of music and find the beauty in it. But I don't know if he has the reverence for Jay's music. A lot of the cultural questions he was asking. He knew the answers to it.

Like what? Give me an example. Because I don't believe it. you know, the role of hip hop and neighborhoods and Colt. Rick Rubin's been part of hip hop since 1985. But does he live it in that way? Does he live it when he's walking around? Is he Lear Korn when he was actually walking around those neighborhoods?

He was carrying records with... He said in the interview, I used to go to Brad's Records in the Bronx. That was the only place you could buy hip hop in New York City in 1984. So it might have stopped after the 80s for him. I thought he was a strange choice. I'll leave it at that. I did too. I thought, by the way, it could be three.

I thought it should have been him. Rick and Angie Martinez. What is Rick? For sure. He's a producer. He's a guru. Again, I could not know, but my understanding is that he doesn't actually play the instruments, right? He doesn't.

So I went down a rabbit hole because I had some trouble with Rick Rubin in it. So the argument against Rick Rubin, by his own admission, he doesn't play any instruments. And he has a very hands-off style in the studio. famously Johnny Cash's album is one of the albums he's well known for he wouldn't go to the studio he would have them send him the tracks at the end of the day he wanted to be fresh he didn't want to be influenced by whatever sort of energy in there and then he would just give notes and I think he changes it up depending on who you know the artist is but yeah he's he's kind of about vibe and energy but is his skill taste his skills taste and then if

I really went in the weeds. A lot of people say he's very accomplished in terms of, and meticulous in terms of the mixes and the placement of certain sounds and musics. So he has an expertise of the production. Let's say he has a fantastic ear. Yeah, I'm just trying to understand. He's like the white Diddy. And not in the sexual act.

I think that's fair. I see that. But you mean, but I'm saying like, but Diddy didn't do any. But Diddy knew a hit. Exactly. Right.

Right. Um, so Rick's reputation is he understands. artists and he puts them in a mind state where they can be their most creative even if he can't you know give specific instructions around a guitar cord or a piano whatever like it's personal size i had to take mom i had to take my interviewer media hat off to really sit back and enjoy right because i'm expecting rick to do certain things that he's not equipped to do because he's not an interviewer right and i know he had his pot and

What was the name of that podcast? I forget the name, but yeah. Also, I didn't love his podcast. I would point out shot in black and white, the special, which reminds me of another interview show. I'll say it. No, out of context. Yeah.

Well, you know. A little inspiration right there, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. I mean, I do mine in black and white because I feel like colors are distracting. Right. Intimate black and white.

Intimate black and white. Yeah. And by the way, once again, I think Jay-Z carries it. But when you get Jay-Z that talkative, I need an interviewer that can really pull. Especially... You can go to the next... Because a great interview is the push and the pull

with the conflict and the challenge and the response to the challenge. Yes. We didn't get any of that in this. Oh, we haven't thus far. But I don't... And I don't think we... I'm not sure if we will.

Like I said, for me, when I saw it at the premiere, I was like, yo, Rick Rub was pissing me off. But then when I watched the first two episodes, I enjoyed them. Because you get a lot of J. Right. And that's, he's carrying it. He's carrying it. I think also for people that don't know much about Jay-Z

at the documentary is good. It's great. No, see, with Taylor's, and now, see, that is actually 100% correct. I'm a Jay-Z. Do you think non-J-Z fans are going to watch it? I don't think anyone's going to watch it who's not a Jay-Z fan. it would be very inaccessible. Is it out now?

Yeah. I mean, I, my wife and daughter was there. It's on HBO. It's on HBO. Rick Rubin looks like he's 85 years old. He looks like fucking Santa Claus. His foot is so distracting. That's distracting to you?

You haven't seen how he sits? That's what I'm talking about. He's like sitting on his foot and it's so distracting. But anyway, if you're a 25-year-old hip-old hip-hop fan who's heard about Jay-Z and doesn't. Yeah, you're going to be intrigued by it. I think you press play. And then I think you see this old white guy sitting there looking like a cross between Santa Claus and a beach bomb. You see Jay-Z and you're kind of like...

No, you're going to watch. I'm all right. Nah, not if you're in the hip-hop, you're going to watch Chris because of the music. So they're playing the records. And you're like, damn. Because I gauged it by being at the premiere and watching how, like, Lauren's 34, Nihler's 31, watching their reaction to it. You know what I'm saying? And like, some of this shit, they never heard of.

Like, they never heard these stories. They never heard. They didn't know Jay shot his brother. You know what I mean? They didn't know Jay's relationship with his father. Yeah. They didn't know the Tupac Biggie dynamic when Jay is like him and Tata pulled up to the club. Yeah, that was very interesting.

That's what I'm saying. They didn't, all of that stuff is super intriguing to them. And I also with the premiere, they get in the 4-444, which is this song where he's apologizing to Beyonce about cheating on. So I don't know how deep. They're going to go when the actual episode... I thought it picked up and I got very... It was a tough first 10 to 15 minutes. Really?

I'm going to be honest. Oh, now, he had me from the beginning because the intro, the Dynasty intro, man. The theme song for the soprano. Even if they had a different interview where you don't think that he would cut some stuff out if we got too deep. But you don't think that Jayze's also like...

I think it would be hard to cut around a lot of that stuff. And I think Jayzie would be more open to talk to a lot of the things that he's probably never spoken about because it's through the lens of music. As he said in the documentary, he don't, he don't talk. Like, he don't talk. He would never, he would never talk, you know, especially back then and be vulnerable the way he is in records, right? So he's more comfortable talking through the music. But he's a great talker. He's great. That's what I'm saying. He carries it. That's incredibly

interesting, charismatic. So imagine if he had somebody who's putting gas on it. That's all I'm saying. Right. He probably won't make Rick Rubin because of fate to black, because I think that was received pretty well when he was making the black album, and there was like a huge chunk that he was working with Rick Rubin on. I thought he just did 99 problems together. Yeah, but they showed the whole making of that song. So I think that was received well, so he's probably like, oh, let's just run it back.

I thought it. I mean, listen, it was cool. We haven't finished it, six more episodes. I just, I don't know, I just feel like Angie Martinez should have been in the mix to like pull more out, combine more. You on the payroll? They should ask you. That's not my job.

Oh. What is your job? Huh? What is your job on the payroll? I can't tell you. That's the whole point. I can't tell you what it is. I actually don't even have a job.

What else? Anything else? One more thing is the Mandani thing. What was the Kaepernick thing? He says something about Kaepernick. Capernick? That's what Taylor said? No.

Chris said that. Oh. What was the Kaepernick thing? He's accusing... I can't really follow it. He said it in that episode? Rockn't. his organization.

They had tried to plant fake stories about me as part of that. We got calls from the radio personalities and the media personalities around, hey, this is what we got a call on? Like, is this actually true? We got all of those phone calls directly. So that's the part that I don't understand the intent there outside of trying to justify the backlash that you're getting from people. Simple question for any interviewer.

If somebody says, if Kavanaugh says, hey, Rock Nation is playing the stories. Just ask them what stories. Because that would mean the stories are already out there, right? So what stories? So you say, hey, well, what stories did they play? Just ask. It's like, well, what stories did they plan?

Yo. Because if you know Rock Nation is playing the stories, then you should know what the stories are. Just ask what are the stories? Rick Rubin looks like Dumbledore. I just saw a picture of them. I've seen him before, but this is the most with the hair and the beard.

That's what I'm saying. Interesting. I don't like how we... Yeah, that's the guy I kind of, but I've seen, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's him. He kind of looks like big. He's got to look, though. He's got to look.

Okay, so, so what were we saying with Kaepernick? I'm saying, I don't believe Rock Nation was playing the stories. And if Rock Nation is playing the stories, then just ask him, ask Cap, what are the stories? Oh, so you think Cap is capping? I don't know. Just ask him. Do we have played? Do I think Cap is?

Yes, I do think Cap is capping. But here's the thing. I don't think he's capping. I think that's what he's capping. he's been told. Oh, he believes. You know what I'm saying? Who is making him believe this?

Probably other media personalities that want to be on his good side. But my thing is simply this. Ask him, what are the stories? Wouldn't you ask that if somebody say, hey, they're planting stories about you. Wouldn't you say, well, what are the stories? Yeah, I mean.

And if I'm going to bring it up in an interview, I'm going to say, hey, they were planting stories about me and this was the story. You see what I'm saying? That's me personally. That's what I would do. Yeah. But if I'm interviewing him, I would say, well, what were the stories? Yeah. What were the stories they planned?

And has he given any details as to what the stories were? No. No. Of course not. I mean, well, what could the stories be? Like, he... I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Like, what are the stories? What would you story? What have been the negative narratives about Colin Kaepernick? I haven't really seen any negative narratives about Colin Kaepernick over the last decade. There hasn't been much conversation about But again, I don't know I mean, of course the negative narrative

is the fact that he took a knee What else we got, Taylor, gang? Don't want to talk about Mitch McConnell I mean, sorry, not Mitch McConnell. Mandani and Trump trying to stop the news. Stop the news? I don't think they're trying to...

Well, not stop the news, but you know what I mean? Like adding or having CNN come to the White House and all that. I think you're conflated to I was so confused. Am I? I think Trump met Mamdani to discuss a building project in like... Is it Sunnyside or...

I'm not too sure. No, you're right, you're right. Sorry. I was saying that because in this video, you can't hear Trump at all because... When I think, man, I get why he does what he does, but I still can't get with people acting like this is just politics as usual, you know. Like not when you see somebody, you know, banning... independent, you know, news organizations from the White House, then launching what some

could say is state-controlled media with Trump TV, and then Mondani's just up there acting like it's just politics as usual. Like, I... Everyone was talking about how he has straight-face. Not for what Mondani claimed he stood for, or stands for. So this is the tricky thing. I think that seems to be like the... I think that seems to be a very common take across both sides of the aisle, which is, like,

If there are certain people that are, you know, so reprehensible that simply by interacting with them in a professional setting, you're enabling them, et cetera. Normalizing, or normalizing, et cetera. The other argument is, like, he is a responsibility to him done to his constituents to build some fucking housing in this city as he sees the prices of rent skyrocketing, and he's going to need federal funding to do that. So this is the cost of doing that. And I think that, like, it's it, listen, if you don't get nothing out of. Well, here's the thing. Mom Dani, this is why Mom Dani's kind of interesting. He got something the first of.

He can. Well, what can Mom Dany really do? Mom Dany can't be president. No. Because he's not born here. So, like, what is he going to be? A senator? A governor is a downgrade to the mayor of New York.

Like, I guess a senator, but, like, mayor is better. Like, that's the second most powerful position in government is mayor in New York. Shut the fuck the fuck up, man. It is. Like, so it's like, so all he really can do. is deliver for the constituents in a city. So this is one of those situations where it's like, again, the political discourse are the people that are going to be chatting about it and making money off of conversations about it

are going to make this as radioactive as possible. But like, what does he have to deliver for the people at a city? I'm with you, but is he going to get it? I just feel like he... Let me tell you why he probably will. Okay. Because all you got to do is do that and Trump gives you what he wants. To his demise, all you have to do is ask him for shit and he'll give it to you.

Well, you got to kiss his ass. Well, that's the thing. You just got to kiss his ass and ask him and he'll give it to his demise. Yeah, but I don't want to see. That's always been the book on him. Flatter him and he'll... It don't piss y'all off when y'all see people like Mundani who went so hard against Trump now trying to kiss ass. No, because they're all fake.

They all say what they need to say in order to get shit done. What pisses me off is that they're not building any fucking units in New York City. There's nowhere to build. There's so many places to build. Where? Queens, Brooklyn. Oh, that's, I thought you made in the city. Manhattan.

Yeah, you're all over. There's room. They're not building for other reasons. Man, they already selling 500 square for apartments for $10,000 a month. Like, what do you want? No, they're not. 100 square feet? But that is, no, the problem is, is supply.

You make more supply than the demand goes down. There's just no supply. A lot of supply in Brooklyn, man. They're putting up new buildings everywhere. The prices stay the same. Because there's demand still. You got to trust me on this one. But like the average vacancy, I think, for a building,

a huge apartment building in New York City is something like 10% or 8%. That means 92%. The average time an apartment is on the market is like a week or two. There's insane demand. And we're just not building anymore these buildings. So you've got to find a way to get shit up. What percentage is those apartments you think? think around by foreign nationals

who are just basically stashing the money here? I don't know. Genuinely don't know. Yeah, I'm curious, too. I feel that's a big part of it. I mean, that's the whole idea with the Piettaxor tax. Right.

Like, that's the idea is like, you're not going to just take up an apartment and then just leave it. No, that was right. Yeah, right. What happens? I don't know. Listen, I'll tell you one thing, too.

What happened? New York got to get rid of these fucking rats, yo. What are you talking about? Thank you. Do you, I don't think you realize how big rats in New York City have got. Yeah, they're huge. We mean we don't realize.

We know it. Listen. But I don't think you realize how less rats there are that it used to be. Really? It's way less. No. Really? It's been going down.

It's been going to. I don't think so. Click on that link for your nephew. All the rats are bigger than those kids on those on that. I'm not even joking. You're just figuring this out though. No, no, no, no. We've known this.

No, no, no. No. No. You know how we went to fucking, what's that shit when they take that blow-up doll rat and put it outside the building? Oh, yeah. That's how them shit looked now.

Bro. There's real live union rats in these sewers, yo. Master Splinter looked like a baby. Baby. Some of these shit, bro. I remember going to clubs on like the west side back in the day, like way west. And then we would walk back

and there would be so many rats in the street and they were so active. Like, you would walk by some trash on the street and they would start to scurry. And they were so confident they would run at you And we would have to jump. Like, it was fucking insane. Yeah, but they're huge now.

Hell's kitchen was bad. Lower East Side was bad. Health Kitchen specifically. First street between first and second, there was a meat factory back in the day there. And now they got like apartments, but they never got the meat out or something. It is like an infestation over there. Yo, New York got too many rats and too many big-dig homeless people. No, no, no.

The thing about the big-dick homeless people is, and this is something that I've been talking about for a long time, It gave me insecurity by my dick size because the only dicks I really saw in the wild or homeless dicks were huge or pornography dicks and they're about the same size. Yo, I seen a dude taking a piss. 5.40 in the morning. 50, 5'5 and 6.

Wasn't trying to hide behind no car, no nothing. Right in front of the parking lot. And I'm like, yo, I thought he was pouring something out of a fucking dude. Yo, this motherfucker was holding this shit like this and just letting that shit rip up. on the sidewalk. Would you hide it, though? Like, if you had it like that, are you hiding behind a car?

Yo, why don't people like that get in the porn or something? Son, they probably were. And why do all these homeless men have such huge dicks? Because if you had a dick that big, would you work in life? That's the problem. You probably felt like you didn't have to do nothing. You didn't have to do nothing. That's right.

That's right. Walking around with big dick energy your whole life and you're not even motivated to do nothing. Big dick energy will make you homeless. People talk about that big dick energy. You're gonna be on the street. pissing. That's right. Sometimes I look at homeless people with big dicks and I was just like, man, couldn't like God just had life meet them in the middle? No. You know what I mean? No.

Like, because you, if the shit I'll be seeing take away three, four inches, there's still a eight. Right? I saw a guy pissing next to a car. So they take that and put him a little middle class life? No. They would probably trade it, but they don't realize. I saw this guy pissing next to a car it was a blue Honda accord and I thought he was filling it with gasoline The shit looks so fucking big It wasn't even a gas station there

But my brain turned it into He's filling it up with gasoline You remember the dude that used to stand outside The 4040 and everybody thought They was getting robbed But he was just a guy of the huge day Bro he would just pull out his dick And it would be the most shiniest

Because he'd be jacking off So that shit was always shy Like spit shining that movie Like a fucking leather shoe And he would pull that shit out and you would think he was lifting up the shoddy on you, bro. You'd be like, yo, I think people throw their wallets on the ground after dude, bro.

I saw, I saw people whistler. Omar's coming. You know what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? That shit crazy, yo. Can we finally do some asking idiots, Taylor? Let's do it. Hald hostage here with you running through topics.

Yeah, he's just out to all the big dick homeless people in New York, man. Yo, for real, we appreciate you, man. You know, we really do. That shit is crazy. Put that shit away, bro. It's weird. Weird.

Ooh, Benji Spinoza says, is it gay for a regular civilian to get a tattoo of a celebrity or athlete they've never met? Gay! Yes. For a regular civilian to get a tattoo of a celebrity or athlete they never met. I mean, look, is Jesus a celebrity? Like, he's not a celebrity. He's not a celebrity. He's not a celebrity.

He's not a superstar. He's not an athlete. Nah. I don't think it's gay. Gay isn't the right word. I would have to know why that person inspires you so much to get a tattoo. Before I judge you, I would just like to know why that person inspires you so much to get a tattoo. And how early in their career you got the tattooed him.

Oh, yeah, he's not a celebrity. Who he got a tattooer? Mine's the king. I'm okay. He got it on his jerk off on him. Wow. Motherfucker staring at Marl Luther King Jr. On his core, I'm like this.

Marlon is a cream. I had a queen. Yeah, let's your raising You know, hold on That is funny, bro Alex High of the crew They're white kids

And black kids Why would you do that? How did you know You jerk off lefty? Never know You probably got Malcolm on that one Oh my gosh

Nah, dude That's disrespectful You want to peace Or you That's crazy. Listen, I don't think it's gay. I would just want to know your inspiration. That's all.

What is your inspiration for getting the tattoo or the celebrity or athlete? Also, if you get it early in their career, like... Then they blow their knee out. Say again? Then they blow their knee out. There's something out there with like a Greg Oden tattoo on their back.

And you see... I'm sure it was mad people in New York that got jailing in Brunson tattoos. But that's deserved. Why? Of his face? What's wrong with that? What's wrong? Doesn't Drake have a LeBron tattoo?

That is weird. Drake got too many. Drake got LeBron. Yeah, he got Eleas. I think he got Steph Curry. I think there's, he met those people. They're safe and getting more people. You're spreading your bets.

Yeah, like if you got, it's almost like after you get one or two, you got to get six so it doesn't look like. Like if you just had one of your friends' faces tattooed on you and he's still alive, that looks crazy. Right. If you have six or seven, then you can be like, oh, it's a fine. one thing he does. What does the tattoo stand? Like, what does it mean to you? Nothing.

I don't have one tattoo on me that means anything. I'm just asking me. This tattoo right here, never so deep is the only one because that's my guy, Dr. Robert Evans, my dude, DJ, bless. Everything else is just like.

What you got on your phone? You got on your jerk off for him. My name, Charlemagne and holding clitters. You got just a mean looking face. I got Wolverine. I mean, Wolverine means something to me. Nah.

What is that face? Yeah, that's a face. Everything evil in life. It says lust, lust, greed, envy, hate, and it has a dollar sign and it's all going up in flames. DJ envy? And it says only on your star out. That is.

Did you ever want like a sleeve or anything? Like what? A slave. A sleeve. Oh. What the fuck, them? They're going too crazy now. I just never saw a point of tattoos.

I don't know what's that. That's crazy. You know, what else we got, Taylor? I do. If I had a higher tolerance for pain in my old age, I would get all this covered up or removed, but I ain't got time for that shit. Alex, can you tell us what was the inspiration

for your Martin Luther King tattoo? I just stand by everything he stands for. I want peace. I want civil rights. I want people who love one another. A lot. Respect. Respect.

Tommy underscore threat says, if everyone can hear your thoughts for 24 hours, would you still have any friends left? Yeah. Absolutely. All my friends know my thoughts. Yeah. Absolutely.

My friends. You know what I mean? They probably wouldn't be surprised by shit. They probably loved me more because they would be like, and he really gives a fuck about us. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So why don't you say it out loud then?

I do say it out loud to y'all all the time. Y'all just don't receive it well. I don't have time for y'all insecurity. Okay? I walk in the room and be like, y'all, and everybody braces up. You know what I mean? That's not true. You don't say that at all.

I do tell y'all I love y'all. No, you don't. You say after like a mean comment, though. Yeah. You do. You do. What's wrong with that? Mr. Derek Jr. says,

what movie or album you wish you could watch or listen to for the first time? Ooh. This is good. Ooh. Movie. Go movie. Man, you know what I watched the other night? Tell me.

And I hadn't seen it in a long time. And once again, it's so funny that we said, because I like watching things with younger people and introducing them. So I watched Devil's Advocate. Great movie. I watched Devil's Advocate with Nile and Rubin. And that shit hit harder. I mean, I've watched it a few times, but I haven't watched it in a long,

I don't think I watched it in my 40s at all. That shit hits harder, bro. Because the whole movie is rooted in vanity. Out of all of the sins, the devil can use to get you, vanity is the one that he gets you with the most. And what intrigued me was, at the end of the movie

and fuck it at the end of the movie basically Keanu Reeves makes the right decision right and as he's leaving you remember the reporter that was in the bathroom talking to him

reporter in the bathroom is like man a lawyer with a conscience wow that's a front page news story he was like man you he was like man you're going to be famous and Keanu kind of thinks about it

He was like, man, call me tomorrow. Come remember, Keanu's shrugging him off, shrugging him off, shrugging him off, until he goes, yo, a lawyer with a conscience, man, you're going to be famous. And he goes, call me tomorrow. And then the reporter turns back to the devil and goes, vanity. It's my favorite sin. And it just made me think about how in this era, you have a lot of people that are very self-righteous. They believe they're always doing the right thing, saying the right thing.

right but they don't realize that they've let that self-righteousness become attached to their actual ego you know what I'm saying so whether they realize it or not when they get on their podcast or they're on their YouTube page whatever it is you know they're giving these amazing soliloquies about life and these amazing monologues about life and what everybody else needs to do and chastising all these other people it's like yo you're letting your own vanity get the best of you

those likes, those comments, those retweets, those repose. So it's like even though you're doing the right, even though what you're doing is rooted in the right thing, it still can be attached to vanity. That's interesting. And I didn't catch that all those other times I watched Devil's Advocate. I actually thought he escaped.

You know what I'm saying? Even with the devil coming back in. But when he goes, vanity, that's my favorite sin. I'm like, oh shit. Got him. You can really get caught up and stuff. even being the good person. Oh, that's, that's what, that's easier.

That's the virtue. That's the virtue signaling. You're right. It would be nice to watch Interstellar again. Like, I really enjoyed that whole fucking experience. Like, I just loved getting lost in that, in that world. And, like, I was just set up so beautifully. I love that.

I just loved that. Interstellar would be amazing. Watching it, when you watch those movies with your kids in the future, all of that's going to make you feel like you're watching it again. This sounds crazy, but like, I would love to watch Endgame. I was thinking that. The first weekend, it came out again. But specifically the first week, like, that decade-long buildup,

and then all of us in that theater for that moment, I want to experience that. Fire! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I still feel the dopamine high from that shit when I was. watching on TV, man. From the time Captain America gets up,

after almost getting his ass kick and he is Sam on your left? Oh my God. That moment, the moment when Cap first wielded the hammer, you know it comes out in theaters again this weekend. They're setting us up, huh? Yeah, Ingame comes out in theaters again this weekend with like four extra minutes

and some shit like that. I mean, just having that moment. Oh, that was fire. I honestly can't remember the last moment in the theater that felt like that. It felt like what? Well, like there was that catharsis in it? Yeah, everybody was cheering.

Oh my God, it was fucking incredible. Like, people were losing their minds. Yeah, yeah. That's what, this is. Um, what, what's the best possible new scene we could get from in-game encore? I don't know. I don't like the fact that they're even touching in-game and it lets you know how much Marvel fucked up, to be completely honest with you.

The fact that they got to go back in, add shit to end game, just to connect the dots for whatever they're doing. in Dooms, they let you know how much they fucked up. And since a good possibility, they could ruin a classic for us all. Damn. Ah, that's far. Because you won't forget how you felt, but you will remember how this shit made you feel now. You'll be sitting back, why would they fuck with this classic? All right, maybe, but like, you can never take away what that experience was.

You might forget it eventually, but we'll all remember we invested a decade of our lives into this storytelling. and they fucking tied the bow perfectly. So why untied a bow? You untied a bow because you need to make billions of dollars. That's whacked. Whether it's whack or not, you're not going to take away. It's like Jordan going to the Wizards didn't take away

what we saw him doing them both. Yeah. And it's like remixing a classic. It's like when you heard that classic, it still hits the same way. But the remix is never as good. Like you don't have to go back. You shouldn't have to go back in the end game to explain where we're going. I feel what you're saying.

but at the same time, everything they've done after endgame hasn't really hit. So maybe... As they fault. All right, so maybe this might correct it. I don't think so, bro. I could be completely wrong. I want to be wrong. I just...

And by the way, I'm going to see Endgame again in the theater. I need to see these extra scenes. I don't know. Nah, I'm going to do it. This is what I'm going to do. I'm going to do it. And then if you tell me, nah, that shit was worth it, then I'm going to do it. It's only like four extra minutes.

It is interesting. If you have that type of influence over me, It's like I know how passionate you are about it. And the passion, and I guess my trust in your taste, has an influence over me. But it's the passion. If you just say, go watch this thing, but it's not something you care about.

You're like, oh, here's a new show. I don't know if I watch it. Like if you're like, oh, I watched Widows Bay, which is fire, by the way. If you said that, I'd be like, maybe I'll watch it, maybe I won't. But I know how much you fucking love comic book. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you being inspired to go watch it might make me go. Lanterns is fire. A lanterns. Lantern. Lantern's is fire. There's nothing else. Go watch Lanterns fire. Yo, James Gunn, bro.

I ain't going to say all that, man. No, James, James, James, go. James and go. Tell me to miss. Supergirl. You didn't direct it. Superman. Superman was fire.

Stop. I can't call it a miss. You hate it a miss. You hate it, bro. Superman was fire. I can't call Superman a miss. Superman's fire. It's the hardest.

superhero movie to make. He's invincible. You have to convince us that there's vulnerability outside of him. Some kryptonite. What are you talking about? Yeah, but it's like, oh, I'm going to throw some kryptonite shit. It's boring. Like, oh, here's a rock. Like, basically, you have to create circumstances of humanity around someone who has none of the circumstances of humanity. And that motherfucker does it, bro. It's, and he's crazy. It is crazy how they wasted so much time, like trying to keep Superman away or put Superman in jail. Just give everybody little pieces of kryptonite. You tell them

walk around with this shit like it's one of these fucking, you know, precious gems. You know what I mean? Like fluoride in the water. That's it. That's all.

That's all. Lanterns is fire, but, and peacemaker's fire. I think James Gunn might be better at TV. I think, Guardians? Guardians.

Guardians are the Galaxy. Guardians is, Guardians is so remarkable that we think it's separate from Marvel. I love Guardians. You're crazy if you don't think.

You're bugging. You're bugging if you don't have them. I love Guardians, but we keep saying Guardians. Guardians, better than... It's a trilogy. What's the other movie? What's the other movie James is knocked out the park? You can't do a whole trilogy of movies?

Well, you know what, though? Let me take that back. Because Peacemakers, two seasons, one hour apiece episode. I haven't watched Peacemaker, but here's good. Guardians, out of here. See you later. Peacemakers on Guardians level. That's...

I've been told that it's fantastic. Peacemaker might be better than Guardian. No, you're bugger. Bro. Not better. The first two seasons of the piece make a fire, bro. Put it this way. Name another director that has knocked out the park a trilogy.

Whoever did Christopher Nolan? That's it. You can't even say that about the Godfather. No, you. The Russo brothers. Did they do a trilogy of Iron Man? Did they do? I don't think Iron Man 3.

They did Civil War, and they did both in games. No, that's two. And also that's an extension of which they knocked that out of the park. Don't get me fucking wrong. But I'm talking about give me one trilogy. Just Christopher Nolan only brother for the thing. So now we're talking about the guy that is the best and then the other guy that is the best. Did James going to have the best?

It was a good. Brother. It was. It was. It's great. He didn't do Part 3 though. Yes. Did he?

Who did that? I don't think he did part 3. You sure? I think he like co-directed. I thought he did two. No, but. I definitely did. I don't know if he did he do Thor?

No, I hope he ever did Thor? No. Let's see, did James Gunn do Guardians 3? Let's see. Some people would say the Star Wars trilogy. Oh, yeah. And that's Lucas, right? Yeah.

Yeah. The first three, yeah. Did James Gunned do Guardians 3? Yeah, he wrote and directed Guardians Galaxy 3. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. I mean, listen, I like James Gunn.

I just, Supergirl was there. Supergirl should have been a TV show. He didn't do the Supergirl. Supergirl. That's what I'm saying. He didn't do Supergirl? No. But he was overseeing it, though. But you can't do that because then we... That's like the Russo brothers. Then we're going to say the same thing about him or whatever. That movie was that, uh, what's his face oversaw?

Jordan Peel? Like, Jordan Peel oversaw that movie, but you're not going to put the quality of that movie on Jordan Peel. A lot of people do. But I don't think that's fair. It's different when you're in the trenches and you're creating and you're writing and you're building and you're executing these scenes, then simply looking at the script, liking it, and then letting somebody else create that vision. But then the Russo brothers, because I don't think, I think they only directed one, but they just oversaw the whole MCU. Well, you guys give them credit for that.

I never. What do you mean? The Russo brothers did Endgame and Infinity War. Yeah, I give them credit for End Game Infinity War. Yes, they did. And they did, and they did Civil War. And they did, they definitely did Civil War. game and Infinity War. I forgot what the other ones did. And they're doing Avenger's Secret Wars and

Doomsday. No, they're beasts. Let's do a couple more and move on, man. What you got, Taylor game? They did, they did. Oh, yeah, you're right. My bad. Yeah, they did Infinity War. Which one else? What other ones? No, you. They did Winter Soldiers, Civil War, Infinity War, Endgame, and then they're doing Doom Day and Secret War. See, they did all the fire shit from a winter soldier and Civil War? Oh, my God. You got to put them up there. for this book.

Hell yeah. Call me. Ow. D. What are their scrimps and weaknesses? I'm gonna be honest with you. Ain't nobody scared of STDs no more. That's the problem.

Back in our day, Shit. You see what I'm saying? Death sentence, though. What? STD, bruh, that's especially... Why don't you say no one's scared of him anymore? Nobody said no SDDs no more.

You don't even hear about... Back in day, we were scared of crabs. Son. You know what I'm saying? Like, everything used to terrify us. Ghana real, you didn't want to fucking, you know, burning. You know what I mean?

Then you started hearing about chlamydia. And it was like, to clap. So you think they're non-existent no more? No, but if you want your cheeks just clapping randomly? Damn. Damn, bro. You didn't know that's what chlamydia did you? All right, create a super villain off of STD.

I don't think there's no STD. I don't think there's no. Comedia could sound like one. Like, oh, shit, watch out for the chlamydia. What if there was a, what if it was, yeah, no. Or got to read it sounds scary. No, it's not. If it goes away from a pill, we're not really triven.

You didn't even hear nobody talking about gonorrhea no more. When the last time you heard somebody say they had gonorrhea? Yeah. But who's talking about it, though? You would think in this world where everybody's chatting. They don't even got commercials for it. When we were growing up, they were STD commercial on TV. Now you don't even see them anymore.

Yo, the age commercials look like rom-coms. Imagine how much you got to get paid to do that shit, brother. Because there's actors doing that. The one that got the butterflies surrounding you, like, it looks pleasant. They don't know. They don't even get it. give out the free condoms. They don't give out free condoms no more?

Nobody fucking anymore. They ain't no way. These kids don't fuck, bro. These kids don't fuck. What the fuck? We're going to waste money on comedy. You're not in college no more. You all know.

These kids don't fuck. STD, nobody's scared of STDs, y'all. I don't know why. Go get some pussy, man. I'm married, so I can give a fuck less. You know what I'm saying? What's the last time you saw a teen mom? They can't even make a show.

Damn! Yo, that's a good ass point, man. They need to bring that show back to his part of these kids for fuck a little. You know, but they did. What they are doing now with team mom, though, they're just, the moms that are already where team moms are just showing their success. That's because they're young kids ain't fucking.

Yo. That's so true. That was a wildest show on television. The mom was so wild this shit. I can't, I'm honest, I can't even create a super villain based off of SED because there ain't nothing I'm scary no more, yo. All right, give us one more.

Let's do one more, tell. Pick a good one, tell the gang. Does Crystal have a phobia of mopeds? Yes. Yes. The guy actually wrote vroom vroom. He wrote that. Oh, this is a good way.

As a black human in an interracial relationship, the discount is black love. I've never been in the interracial relationship. Showtask. I mean, it counts for the other race. Like, the other race clearly has black love. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you've had black love before.

Every week with you, baby. Shut the fuck. That's the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Dr. Umar would not agree with it. Why even let us answer the question? Okay. All right, let's end with the other one then.

Come on. Because y'all didn't. This is the last question. Who would you rather have met? Who's? Tupac or Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. You out of your fucking mind?

I don't know. Over Tupac? That's tough. This is tough. That's tough. That's tough. That's tough. It is.

Y'all are really crazy. It's a tough one. The greatest entertainer in history or Tupac. It's a tough. I mean. Come on, bro. Which Michael Jackson would you meet? Any of them.

Tupac is a cultural icon. Yeah. Like Tupac up there with Bob Mali, bro. All around the world. I'd rather meet Bob Mali. You're bugging, yo. Why? Why are you hating on Tupac?

You're not hating on Tupac. I'm just telling you, like, I don't see Tupac at the same level as Michael Jackson. Are you fucking... I mean, nobody's on the level of Michael, but based off all of the lore of Tupac. Yeah. And in... I'm intrigued by him for you. Tupac's almost like a mythical, tragic Shakespearean figure.

And by the way, I promise you, you can go all over the world. You're going to see a Tupac mural, you know. Tupac and Bob Mali are the two celebrities I see all around the world. Sure. To me, the reason why, one of the reasons why is, like, there's a lot is known about Tupac. There's a lot of information known about him. There's not as much mystery about him. There's so much mystery about Mike.

And if I'm just in a room, it's me and I could ask him, whatever do I want to ask him. And maybe you could lie to me, hopefully he doesn't. And he just breaks the whole shit down. Think about it. You get to know everything. It's like... And Tupac and Bob Marley died young. You, like, immoralize them and make the murals and all that stuff when they die young.

Yeah. I mean, Michael died of thinking Tupac over Mike. I don't know, no. I just think it would be intriguing. Tupac would be a better hang. Tupac would definitely be a better hang. Based on what you think of Mike. Exactly.

Mike sits down. It's like, yo, we're the hose at, bro. We really just going to stay. Everybody knows Mike says that, though. That's what I'm saying. Nah, I've read Mark Ronson's book, and he said he would hang out with Mike Jackson. He was a kid. He said Michael Jackson would fall up toilet paper, get it wet, and throw it out.

They were at Sean Lennon's house, and he would just spend hours throwing wet toilet paper. That's fire. Yeah, but what you just said. You said Sean Penn was a kid. Not Sean Lennon. He's not what I mean? He's out what Michael is a kid is cool. You know what I mean?

As an adult, you probably like, you know, this guy's so boring. He's all in the car. Well, he's kind of where. I feel like I'm with my son. That's fucked up. Sorry, Michael. Not my. Yo, and the podcast. Sorry.

And the podcast. We know. That's in peace, Michael and Spock, man. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast,

and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's a brilliant idiotist podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.