The Brilliant Idiots - Redneck Panda
Episode Date: February 24, 2023This week our Brilliant Idiots Andrew and Charlamagne were definitley cutting up this episode as they discussed the mysterious unidentified objects randomly appearing, Matt Clung beating the stereotyp...e and Rihanna's vogue cover. Also, during the episode they discover that Charlamagne has more than just a southern accent! Lastly, they answer some questions for "Ask an Idiot". Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Let's start the show.
Hazzy is here.
What's up, baby?
Sorry that we couldn't get in last week to knock out an episode, man.
A lot was going on.
But, you know, I feel good.
You know, came in here today.
Alex took his microphone, bumped it across my lips twice.
Twice.
That was crazy.
My microphone?
Yeah.
I mean, you do own the microphone.
This is your microphone.
It's not Charlotte's microphone.
I mean, you ain't move out the way when I did it.
Well, the first time was acting and the second time you was flirting, clearly.
Yeah, that was a little bit weird.
You know what I'm saying?
Wow.
It was really weird.
Wow.
Your reaction was also weird.
And I'm not trying to judge, but like the first one hit, it went like that.
And then you went like this.
And the second one had hit.
And then it didn't move more, but you went like.
See, exactly.
Yeah, it was weird.
Like for the third one, it was almost like, okay, you're ready, you know.
It's like you've been waking out of your sleep like that before.
Yeah.
Yeah, has that happened to you?
No, not me.
Because they say that a lot about people who've had UFO encounters and alien encounters?
No, it's anal probing.
Never with the mouth.
I mean, you never hear about oral probing.
It's all anal.
It is, but they say that that comes from actually, like, suppressed molestation.
Really?
My therapist never told me that one.
But you never got anal probed.
By aliens?
Yeah, you never said that that happened to you in your life.
I don't think so.
The only time I've ever felt anally probed is after I got the colonoscopy.
Because once the shit wears off, the anesthesia, you definitely feel like, okay, something was there.
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
As you should, something's up there.
Absolutely.
Just like something has been up there above us for the past couple of weeks and nobody gives a fuck.
I have not spoken to you about this.
I want to know what Andrew Schultz's theory is about these unidentified flying objects that America keeps shooting out the sky.
First one was a Chinese balloon.
We know it had a big ass made in China sticker.
on it.
Yeah.
Okay.
They acknowledged it
it was made in China.
Yeah.
The next three,
they say were
unidentified flying objects.
They can't connect
to China.
They don't know where it came
from.
They don't know where it came from.
Haven't recovered.
No wreckage.
Don't think they were.
They're all China.
You think they're all China.
Yeah.
Okay.
We don't want to look like,
you know,
we're soft and just have
Chinese shit
flying up in the sky
this whole time.
So we're saying
that we don't know
what they are.
UFO just means China.
You know what I found
For real. I really do believe that. Anytime it's UFO is trying to spying on us and we don't want to admit that we're just letting ourselves get spied on.
If I throw a box of chicken fried rice, is it an unidentified fried object? It is. It is. It is a unidentified fried object. It is a unidentified frying object.
If I take some chicken fried rice and put it in something that's not the Chinese container and toss it. Yep.
Some unidentified fried object. That's an unidentified frying object. That's right. 100% until we identify. That's right. And that's what I'm saying. We've identified.
And we've identified these fine objects as Chinese.
Yeah.
Well, not the last three, which I found interesting because China...
We didn't get any of the information.
We didn't...
It's like we're trying to send a message to China like, oops, we don't have it, but we do have it.
We know what you're up to.
But we're not going to give you the credit for being so brazen and spying on us like that.
But you don't think China would take the credit?
Because China said...
You don't think it's weird that there's one person that didn't show up to the podcast today?
Ooh.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Oh, that's a little curious, isn't it?
Wow.
He's assigned to us, Charlotte.
That's our Chinese representative.
Our resident trans Asian did not show up.
That's the CIA, Chinese intelligence agency.
You thought that the CIA was the central intelligence agency?
No.
UFO is unidentified frying object.
Wow.
Come on, bro.
That is a good point.
Where is Chris?
Where is Chris?
FBI.
What is FBI?
Fried.
What is it?
I'm going to let you stall.
Come on, Charlotte.
What is FBI?
Hold on.
You know the CIA.
The fried burrow of investigations.
The flat booty investigation.
Listen, listen.
If you don't think, if you don't think that every one of our intelligence agencies has been run over.
Infiltrated by the Chinese.
They've been infiltrated.
Damn.
Yeah.
Yes, and just now we're finally getting pretty to that shit.
And Joe Biden's not doing shit.
Joe Biden's Chinese.
You don't think Joe Biden's Chinese, bro?
Hold on.
Hold on.
Listen, guys.
Listen, guys, what we're trying to say is the Chinese have taken over, okay?
They've tried, and we need to do something about it.
What is they to do?
We got Chris here on, listen to us, Zoom.
It's not just Chris is.
All section is red.
It's Chris and all of them.
What is that?
It's Chris.
Chris is not here.
We find three unidentified, unidentified firing objects in one week.
And then Chris just doesn't show up to the fucking podcast.
They got called in.
Here's the thing.
I'm going to tell you why I'm disappointed that Chris isn't here.
Because at this point, somebody does have to represent the Asian community.
Absolutely.
Because if people think that China is fucking with us in this way, if y'all thought the reaction to COVID was something, when they thought that COVID was a Chinese disease,
and Chinese or the China people were doing chemical warfare
or biological warfare.
What do you think they're going to think now?
What do you think they're going to think now?
Yo, it's not like you were speaking Chinese for a second.
Man, shut up.
That shit do sound country as far.
It do, it do.
It do.
I mean, it's a country and Chinese.
What you all think that?
Damn, I never noticed how much country in China sound.
I'm like, oh, why do you think that is, bro?
Why?
Because they got you, dude.
Man, shut up, man.
They did. They've infiltrated the South.
What y'all going to think now?
That's crazy.
You speed it up.
No, no, you speed it up.
If you speed it up, Southern.
If you speed up, if you speed up Honke-Tong.
No, you're right.
What's all going to think now?
No, for real, yo.
If you speed up hunky-tong.
If you speed up hunky-tong.
I never thought of that.
Is that shit?
Yeah.
What do you want a sweet tea?
That shit makes all the sense in the world.
Y'all was me, Tate?
No, for real!
Oh, you do it speed.
God damn.
Yeah.
You speed up, honky-tow.
Say what?
I got to look into that.
Why don't you say that fast?
I got to look in that.
I got to look in today.
I got to look into that.
Now, speed it up.
Speed it up.
Yo, this is something to this, yo.
No, there's something to this, yo.
All you have to do is speed it up, bro.
That's what they do, man.
Yo, I never thought of that.
That's what they do.
Chinese sound like.
Sped up honky tongue.
Yes.
Why do you think black people love, like, anime so much
and like kung fu movies?
They understand it.
Are, why are Chinese restaurants so big in the South?
Because it's Chinese food.
Of course, it's delicious.
But I'm talking about you,
think about all the times you walked in certain places,
and there's certain people that have accents
or, you know, languages, and you can't understand them.
You ain't never had that problem with Chinese people.
I haven't.
What?
I almost thought you were speaking Chinese.
You go in and out, bro.
I'll be honest.
I can't un-hear it now.
This is crazy.
No, for real, when your Southern comes out, you go in and out.
I can not unhear it.
That's wild.
I don't know what language you're speaking right now, man.
I'm having an existential crisis.
You convinced that those unidentified flying objects were from China.
I am convinced, bro.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm not going here with you.
I'm not doing it.
I'm not going where, man.
We've shot our load for China.
That's it.
And then we're done, dude.
We're fucking done, man.
We are done.
We are, come on.
What, what, what, what?
Let's just be done.
Don't you think it's weird, though?
Yeah, yeah, talk that shit.
The government shot down three unidentified flying objects.
Told the American people, we don't know where it came from.
We're not going to recover the records.
We don't know what they were.
And nobody gives a fuck.
Am I tripping?
This is my favorite part of America.
Talk to me.
Our ability to.
to not give a fuck about things
that don't directly affect us,
make us look cool or improve our lives.
Is impressive.
Yeah.
Impressive.
Like, if you want us to get you to care about,
like, anything,
you just need to make,
you just need to shame people for not caring
or make them look really cool for caring.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no in between.
There's no, it's like, and it's all self-interest
at the end of the day.
And sometimes it's good that there is self-interest.
Like, for example, black rights,
for black rights, for black rights,
for black,
people. That's good. You should want rights. Actually, non-Blacks, we should want rights for you guys too.
We should want that. But that's not necessarily a self-interest. It is, but it's an overall
interest because that's what America promises to people. Yes, but I think a lot of the white
people that got on board were doing it because they would feel shamed if they didn't. Oh, absolutely.
You can't call yourself an American. That also, but I think it became trendy. It became like a thing
to wear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like almost the Lance Armstrong shit where it's just like,
live strong. It's like, you just want people that think you support.
cancer. You gave a dollar. It's with that for, it's, it's like that for damn near every
marginalized group. Yes. So you got to make sure supporting your marginalized group makes
you look cool. Sorry, makes your, what do they call, allies look cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If your allies get points for supporting you, they're going to go support of me as everybody's
motivated by self-interest. Well, somebody got to explain to me how come Joe Biden supporting
Ukraine so much, then. Who's that looking? Bro, I don't get that shit at all, bro. I think
that they need to do an investigation. Can I tell you something? Can I tell you. And to President Biden and
his relationship with Ukraine because he treats that shit
like a mistress with a side with a baby.
They already did it. No,
but they need to dig deeper. There's something there,
but it's already proven it's there.
Ukraine was just paying fucking Hunter
Biden money for doing nothing. I remember
that. So what's up? All of this money, all of this
money that they're dumping into Ukraine can't be going
just towards the war. Somebody explained this. I forgot
exactly what it was, but like in a way it saves us
money in the long run because we're destabilizing Russia.
So instead of spending money to destabilize
Russia in other ways, we're spending money
directly to destabilize it. That was the
Is Russia being destabilized, though?
Well, what they're doing is they're spending an exorbitant amount of money in this war
because they can't back out of the war because then it makes them look weak.
So it's almost like we're back in like an Afghanistan situation where the first country to go broke loses.
Same thing as like the space race.
First country to go broke loses.
So what if China starts bankrolling Russia?
Well, now we got a little situation.
But I don't know if China wants Russia to have much power.
I think China's like we want to be the only country in Asia with the power.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I don't know either, man.
I just don't like the fact that it looks like Ukraine got a blank check.
They really do.
And it's wild.
Like, like, did go visit?
Yeah.
Did you go visit Ohio after the train derailment?
Oh, no, nobody cares.
You know what I mean?
With all the chemicals in the air out there?
Americans don't care about Ukraine.
We cared about it for a minute.
Ukraine was like the perfect excuse for white people to take down their black
lives matter posters from their window.
You know how like, as a white person, you can't take down your black lives matter
because the neighborhood is going to go, oh, now black lives don't matter?
but if you have someone to replace it with,
you have a new cause where you still get to look virtuous,
you get to throw that shit in.
So now there's all these windows,
and I saw it even in my neighborhood
that had Black Lives Matter posters,
and now they're no longer too,
and now it's brave for Ukraine.
That's the service that black people should offer.
They come to your crib and take down your Black Lives Matter post.
Because you can't do it yourself as a white person,
but if black people come and take it down,
That's a great idea.
I know white people doing the dead at night.
That's like Santa Claus.
A hundred percent.
Little kids coming out.
Oh, my daddy.
What are you doing?
Jesus Christ.
I'll tell you one thing, too.
America's a terrible place to have a world war for another world war to happen.
Talk to me.
Because it's so much of a melting pot.
So it's so many, do you have people from Ukraine here?
You have people from Russia here.
You have people from China here.
You know what I mean?
And then you just got Americans.
You know, and Americans are going to be,
we've seen it a million times.
That's why you think they have these stop Asian hate campaigns
and the,
after 9-11, against all the Muslims,
like, we know what's going to happen.
Bro, that's why it was so hard with World War II.
Think about it.
Like, America is a country that's like a lot, you know,
I'm going to say a majority,
but there are plenty of Italian and German immigrants.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So World War II, England's got to get us into the war on their side
to fight our uncles,
our grandparents,
our cousins, right?
So they have to find a way
to convince us to do it
because obviously the Germans and Italians
are on the same side.
Absolutely.
They're all Nazis.
So that's a crazy little situation.
That takes a lot of government manipulation.
For World War III, that's...
I'm going to tell you something, man.
People really understand World War II.
Do they?
They really do.
I mean, we've had a million movies made out of it.
I know, but I've never heard.
anybody like put it in the proper context.
Do you know 3% of the world's population
got wiped out in World War II?
Yo, that's light, bro.
3% of the world's population?
If we're going on, I mean, like, I think,
what's his face?
Genghis Khan.
I think he took out himself 10% of the world's population.
No, really?
So look up Genghis Khan.
World War II was 75 to 80 million people.
Like between,
Sangus Khan himself, him and his,
people took out. I think it's something crazy.
But that's, but that's, you can put all that on Hitler though.
You can say because of Hitler, 3% of the world's population got wiped.
Oh, absolutely.
I just feel like people like understell it.
Like when you, 10%?
10% of the world's population.
10% of the world's population.
Wait, no, yeah. You want to look at.
40 million people. 40 million people he took out.
But World War II was 75 to 80.
There was just less people when Gangis Khan was alive.
Oh, got you.
But like, in terms of percentages.
But the, you look at, you look at, you look at what,
was the bubonic plague.
Yeah, yeah.
That should took out
between the third
to 50% of Europe.
Half of the people!
That's crazy.
I think how much is the bubonic plague?
200 million people, total die?
One in three people in Europe.
I think they're saying total death
is 200 million.
God damn.
That was because the gang is gone?
No, that was Bubonic played.
That was another Chinese one.
Oh, my God.
It is.
It came from China.
He did come from China.
He's right.
75 to 200 million people.
And think about, they weren't even,
they didn't have like a census back then.
You know what I mean?
They weren't really counting people.
So that's like rough estimates.
Andrew Schultz's ability to have,
I was talking about Hitler,
he bought it back to China.
I love China.
I love China.
Like, my God.
I love China.
I was trying to point out
how there is no redeeming qualities
about somebody like Hitler.
I'm just saying, Asia got some wild shit.
Asia got some, that's the world.
Hey, you got some wild.
Hey, you want me to do it?
You want me do it again?
No, no.
You want me to do it again?
Where's the swastika from?
What country?
No.
India.
Where's India in?
Wow.
Asia.
Asians is the problem for everything.
How's the swastika from?
It actually means like freedom or something like that.
What does it mean?
Surety and life.
Oh, so that's what they thought they were doing.
And they co-opted it.
Yeah.
That's what they thought they were doing by eliminating
Jewish people.
They thought they were purifying a race.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
wild, right? I didn't know that.
And think, so think about that. Like, think about all the swastikas that are already all over India.
All the swastikas that are already painted on things, part of the history, part of the culture.
And now you're like a Western person. You go visit India for the first time. You just want to do yoga, relax, meditate.
And then every time you look around, you're like, did the Nazis fucking get over here?
Yeah, you're your mind that all this trauma. Yeah, you're right.
You want to stand up for your people?
On a mic show.
You want to stand up for your people?
here.
I mean, look, I can't take my girlfriend back to India.
It's just not possible because she's Jewish.
Oh, wow.
And if I take her back, she's going to go through whatever PTSD is built in the jeans.
Absolutely.
But the swastika is a symbol for life.
It's a symbol for purity.
It was co-opted by the Nazis because they believe in this like Aryan ideology that
they're the master race.
But there's this thing called the Indo-Aryan migration where the people from the
Caucasus Mountains, they kind of split up over.
Europe, Iran, and India.
So we all have like shared history.
That's why Sanskrit is like so similar to Latin.
That's why we have words that are the same across from India and Europe.
Like the word for pineapple, I think, is the same in like 15 to 20 languages.
So there's a lot of shared history that way.
So that's where they were trying to co-opt with the swastika is like they'll take that.
And that's the symbol of the pure master race.
Oh.
Yeah, that's what I was just saying.
Yeah, but in the racial hierarchy, we'd be fine.
Nazi Germany. So question, do y'all try to defend the swastika of people?
Of course. It's theirs first. I mean, look, it's like cultural appropriation doesn't affect
us that much anymore because they took the worst thing, right? So we're fine with it. Like,
you can have yoga, you can have turmeric, you can have all of that. Yeah, I just wonder why India
didn't try to denotify the country. I guess because the swastika just does not mean that.
It's not Nazi to them. We've had the swastika for like thousands of years. So the Nazis just came in.
new. It's like a kid walking around in skinny jeans saying that he invented it, even though
jeans have been around for 300 years. So how do y'all explain that, though? I guess that's what I'm trying
to get it. If I'm Indian, how do I explain that to people? Like, they see me with a swasker,
everybody knows what they, you know, you think that's going to mean.
My buddy has a bracelet that's got it on it. No. One of the little beads has a swastick on.
I was like, bruh, is that? What's up with that? And he was like, oh, yeah, this has been around
for thousands of years. Ain't no way. That's a brave motherfucker.
Yep.
Yup.
When my parents came here,
is this what you guys feel like when we do cornrows?
No.
Not at all.
It's not?
No.
I mean,
it is making me think about it.
Because you're not like,
damn,
y'all ruin that.
No.
Or like when we start dabbing?
No.
When we take a dance move and we popularize it?
That's light cultural appropriation.
We're talking about stuff that's like life and death and got like trauma and blood attached to it.
You know what I mean?
People have died because of the swastika symbol.
You know,
I was just trying to be funny.
So I'll just stop doing that on this podcast, brought to you by Nat Geo.
Brittany Grine is officially back in the WNBA.
Hey!
Bampan, bam, bam, bam, bam.
You all still not going to watch.
Yeah, that's facts.
You guys are motherfuckers ain't shit.
You all rallied around Brittany Griner and BG got freed.
And the ratings in the W.A. did not spike at all.
and I will be highly upset
if she comes back to the Phoenix.
Two things.
If she comes back to the Phoenix Mercury
and that game isn't on prime time
on one of the major sports networks,
that's fucked up, right?
Because that shows you one thing.
They know this shit ain't going to bring ratings.
Boom.
Because if that shit could bring ratings,
that shit would be prime time on who you think?
ABC.
I mean, it have to be ABC.
ABC, you know what I mean?
ABC, yeah, they're on the rights.
That's right.
If there's not a big media thing around her first game,
they know that it don't bring ratings.
That's all they give a fuck about.
They don't care about what's right.
You know what I mean?
They don't care that she's actually home.
Perfect example of like a great thing to virtue signal on,
a great issue to virtue signal on.
Perfect example about it.
Because the truth of the matter is,
if you really cared about BG being free,
you would be supporting her line of work
because that's what led her to have to go to Russia in the first place.
The fact that they have to pick up extra money.
during the offseason of the WNBA.
Hell, yeah.
So if you really don't want them to have to go out to these places and make extra money
and put their self at risk, then you would make sure that the WNBA is a profitable business
just by supporting it.
Yeah, they're not going to.
But you're not going to do that.
Well, can we talk about real basketball?
Okay.
How did you guys feel?
How did you guys feel about just whites dominating the dunk contest?
Unidentified flying object.
That is.
Unidentified flying object.
And you know what I hate?
I hate when everybody runs a joke into the ground.
I mean, how many times are y'all going to say,
I guess Wake me and Kajum?
Oh, is that what they were saying?
I heard that by a million different people.
I'm like, come on, guys.
I thought he was Asian.
China Mac MacKloon is crazy.
Yo, China Mac MacKmuck.
China MacKmuck is crazy, yo.
That's China Mac Mac Macs.
China Macleng is crazy.
I was impressed.
You know what I mean?
I actually think that this was all stage, though.
What do you mean it was all stage?
Because if you know,
Mac McClung, you know what I mean, he's had these highlights on YouTube for a long time.
And last year, Stephen A. Smith proposed that they go get the streetballers and put him in the
slam dunk contest because they be having super creative dunks. So Mac has gone viral for his
super creative dunks. The fact that Philadelphia 76s signed him the week of the slam dunk contest.
He was already drafted and he was in the G League. He was in the G League. Yeah. But the fact that
he got signed for a two-way contract this week. That does seem suspicious. Come on, man. Now here's the
that I would say about that is that the 76ers are contenders to win at all this year, right?
They're in the running.
So would you risk a roster spot to make that happen?
Yes.
Because this is box office, baby.
I mean, you're right.
We're talking about it right now.
This is box office because I want to see if he can play now.
Yo, white people really are bringing Duncan back.
He's the white savior.
That should be his nickname, white savior.
But all you people that get so mad and be like, I hate these movies that have these white saviors,
This is the white savior.
That is the white savior.
He saved the dunk contest.
I don't know why they just didn't come out and say it.
They kept saying Matt McClung saved the dunk contest.
He's a white savior.
What is happening?
That's his nickname. Matt, Mac, Mac, the white savior McClung.
That's right.
Yeah.
He's the white savior.
And then I think Jason Tatum won the MVP by shooting a bunch of threes.
So you have a white guy who wins the dunk contest.
And then you have a black dude wins the MVP by just shooting step back three-pointers.
Times of change.
We are living in the, what?
Is it the upside down?
Yeah.
Times have changed, bro.
Times have changed.
I saw I dunk that Mac did online.
That wasn't even in a dunk contest.
That shit looked it crazy.
But he wasn't looking when he dunked?
My God.
He's like just the whole time.
And he like, doesn't ride his back and then like,
I'm like, what the fuck, man?
Yeah, we're the best, man.
Jesus.
We're the best.
White people are the best.
I know, Ken you want to do recasting right now.
Immediately.
Immediately.
Like right now.
Yeah.
Does it fuck up the narrative?
this guy.
Does this fuck up the narrative for Whiteman can't jump?
No.
I mean, you can insert them CGI if you want to.
That'd be fine.
Yeah.
Rihanna, what?
Oh, shit, we weren't here last week, so we didn't talk about the Super Bowl.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
What'd you think?
I didn't care.
I played a video game the whole time.
You didn't watch it all?
No.
You were a cat, bro?
No, no, no, no.
Why you didn't want to watch the game?
I was playing Last of Us.
I got Last of Us the video game.
Oh.
That shit was fucking.
Incredible. Have you been watching that show yet?
My wife watches it all the time. Oh, it's so good.
I wonder how many people have gone back to the video game because of the TV show.
I'm one.
Wow.
And the video game is fucking exceptional.
Really?
I haven't played video games in 15 years.
It's on a PlayStation one of them show?
PlayStation, yeah.
Wow.
And I got locked in nonstop playing.
You bought a PlayStation just that game.
Now, my wife, this was the dumbest move on her part.
She wanted to play the Hogwarts, the new Harry Potter game.
She's a huge Harry Potter fan.
She's like, so can we get a PlayStation?
and I was like, fine.
And then I downloaded that last of us.
And then I was playing that shit so much she almost threw it out the fucking window.
I was up until four in the morning every night, waking her up by smashing the square button.
Yeah.
Like, I was locked into this game.
What is it about?
Zombies, right?
Yeah, but it's kind of cool to zombie the zombie scenario.
Basically, all right, so right now there are these things called cordyceps.
I'm probably mispronouncing them.
And this exists in real life now.
And what they do is there are fungus.
that infects insects,
and they take over the insect's body
and make the insect do whatever the fuck
they want with it.
So the insect just stops living
and it just becomes a shell
for these corticeps.
And people are like,
why can't they live in human beings?
And it's like,
because the temperature inside an insect
is much lower than a human being.
The temperature inside a human being
is 97.8 or whatever it is 98.7.
So they just can't live on us, right?
But, and this is the concept of the show,
the plot of the show.
With global warming,
maybe these fungi
now are able to survive
in hotter temperatures,
because the earth is warming.
And what's a hotter temperature than an insect?
A human body.
So they start infecting humans
and taking over the human body.
So the time I was watching it with my wife
and I saw these two dudes tongue kissing
the fuck out of each other.
That is one of the most beautiful episodes
you'll ever see in television history.
But that wasn't two humans.
Third episode.
It was one infected by insects?
No, none.
They're still human.
They're just still humans.
All right.
So that was actually two gay people?
Yeah, that was true.
Oh, okay, I didn't know.
I just thought I never knew the plot of the show.
It's just a gay relationship that's like a non-sequit or part of it,
but it's really the best episode in television history.
Really?
Literally,
I'm messaging some of my buddies represent the people who made the show.
And I'm messaging them at the beginning of the episodes, the third episode.
It's basically about this relationship with these two guys that are living in the apocalypse, right?
And the first message I see, I see that they're like a gay couple.
And I'm like, here Hollywood goes with this fucking bullshit trying to inject a woke narrative and everything, right?
like 15 minutes later, I'm messaging like, hold on, this shit kind of good.
And then 30 minutes after that, I go, I'm crying.
I was crying by the end of it.
And it was this beautiful, relatable love story that had, yeah, they were gay,
but that wasn't the thing that they were trying to project.
It was two people in love trying to survive.
Well, they gay aboard, bro.
You said it's the post-apocalyptic.
So what if all the women are infected with insects?
You know what I mean?
Infected with the virus.
Infected with the virus.
Yeah, not insects.
It existed.
Insecting with the virus.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
What if there's no women around?
What if y'all just bored?
No, that could happen too.
And I'm sure that does happen.
Yeah.
But no, these guys were gay.
Wow.
Because it was one dude who was totally fine living by himself.
He was like one of these doomsday preppers.
Yeah.
Until that, until that ass came in there.
And then, right?
That's right.
Right.
And there's a scene where they're like on top of each other.
I ain't see all that.
I just saw a kiss
to one another.
It's wath.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The last of bus.
As in busy.
Are that thing going?
Oh, okay.
I was shooting, man.
You got to shoot, man.
You got to shoot, man.
Anyway, Riri, what did you think of it?
I thought it was Rihanna's best performance.
Oh, come on.
I thought it was her.
This guy's a fucking, fuck.
Let me give it some context.
I was nervous for Rihanna going into this.
Because you knew?
I mean, Rihanna's never been like a phenomenal live performer.
We know this.
Like, this isn't news to anybody.
Like, you know what I mean?
She's just Rihanna.
Like, she's the coolest person in the room.
Like, you're just happy to be looking at Rihanna.
You know what I mean?
But we've never, like, she performs like a rapper to me.
You know what I mean?
That's why I said to me, this was her best performance.
because they produced it very well.
Like they knew what her strings are
and they knew what her weaknesses were.
In pregnancy or not,
I think that they just put together a great production.
Like all the dances, the set look great,
she looked great.
You know what I mean?
They kept the vocals, I'm assuming she was lip-sinking,
I don't know.
You know what I mean?
But it was to me,
this was one of her best live shows to me.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that's a hot take, my boy.
That's a hot take
One of her best shows
Rihanna
I'm not comparing it to nobody
Have you seen her live show before?
Yes
Oh you've gone in person
No no I've never
Have I gone to Rihanna show in person?
I don't think so
They did like an HBO special or something like that
No I did no no I did see Rihanna in person
I saw Rihanna in person one time
I don't remember when I feel like it was in Philly
years ago though
I don't remember
Never like a VMA
or something like that.
Bro, that's what I'm talking about.
Y'all, I mean,
y'all need to Google,
y'all need to Google Rihanna at the 2016 BMAs.
Why?
That's all I'm going to tell y'all.
Google her at the 2016 BMAs
and watched that performance.
I remember her getting killed for that performance.
You understand what I'm saying?
I remember her,
I remember people being overly critical
of Rihanna and her live performance
because it got to a point where you didn't have nothing else to talk.
Talk about her about it.
You know what I mean?
It was like, she's flawless in every other way.
Everybody loves Rihanna.
So the only thing.
So the only thing people would critique her about was her shows.
You know what I mean?
Right.
So you basically went into this going,
I'm not expecting Beyonce.
I'm not expecting Michael Jackson.
And then you had low expectations.
And then you saw that the way that they crafted the performance,
you're like, oh, this was really cool what they did.
I didn't have low expectations.
I just, oh, that was a dope show too, though.
I remember this one.
But the 2016 VMAs was a dope performance.
But, yeah, I didn't have.
I mean, I didn't have no expectations, Joe.
I just didn't.
What do you say about the reaction to it?
I think people were being overly critical just because that's the area that we live in.
You know what I'm saying?
I think people were being overly critical just because that's the area that we live in.
People love, they look at Rihanna.
She's a billionaire now.
Like, yo, do we understand we live deta successful people there?
Yeah, we do.
Like, nobody was going to walk away from this performance.
Rihanna could have sang like Adele and danced like Beyonce.
and nobody was going to walk away from this performance
and be like, man, she killed that.
That's not what we do.
That's why when people like Rihanna decide
to stay away from music forever
and just make their money off of selling makeup,
I'm not mad at him.
I thought she always lip-sync.
Well, that's why some people lip-sync.
You know what I mean?
But listen, to me, she performed,
like, that performance right there
at the Super Bowl halftime show,
it reminded me of a Jay-D performance.
Because there was the time when people,
and Jay-Z will probably admit
himself. Like he was not a great performer
compared to the Busting Rhymes of the world
and the DMXs, you know what I mean?
But he found a way to take his
cool, curate it
and then translate it on stage
in a way that was dope. And to me
that's what she did, to me.
Yeah. That is an
interesting point about Jay-Z. Instead of trying
to like compete with the DMXs
or the Buster Rhymes in terms of like energy
or charisma on stage, he found a way
to do it by being subtle.
I remember seeing him live and feeling
that way. That's what Rihanna
did to me. Yeah. Rihanna was the
coolest person in the room just doing enough. She ain't got
just doing enough. Let the dances
do all the real work. Get a little butterfly
here and there, you know what I mean? Like it was
it was cool to me. Yeah. Are you
okay here's, do you think her being pregnant
actually was to her advantage?
Oh.
In that people can go
yeah, she wasn't being so dynamic up
there because she's pregnant.
No, not if you've been, if you've been watching
Rihanna all of these years. I'm saying
for the people who haven't.
Well, their lines are they so.
I mean, yeah, they can use that
but their lines are they so.
Ah, okay.
Like, that's, like,
she would have,
she would have that same performance
if she wasn't pregnant.
That's what I'm saying.
So it was to her advantage
that she was.
I mean, the pregnancy,
hey, I guess, yeah,
I can see why people say that.
But to me,
with it without the pregnancy,
that was one of Gianna's best
live performances that I've seen.
Personally,
probably one of my personal favorites.
I loved it, though.
I mean,
I loved,
I love,
I love,
I love watching everybody jump out the window.
Why do we tear people down?
Why do we build people who tear them down?
And enviousness and don't want to admit it.
And then how do we, how do people avoid that from happening?
You can't.
You just can't.
You have to accept it as part of the game.
You can't.
There's nobody that everybody loves universally.
Yeah.
And even when they, the more people love you, the more people are going to hate you.
Because we live in this world where everybody wants to be a contrarian.
Think about it.
Everybody got a podcast.
Everybody got a YouTube page.
Yeah.
Everybody got a blog.
So what do you have to have when you have those things?
A fucking opinion.
Yeah.
So if everybody got the opinion of,
Ariana did her thing,
let me just take the opposite stance just because.
There's some attention there.
Yeah.
That's the world we live in.
We live in the age of opinions, for sure.
Never have there been this much access
to different opinions in the history of the world.
And not just opinions, opinions,
that people can be rewarded for.
And I'm putting rewarded in air quotes
because rewarded to them is getting reposted on Shade Room.
Now, could someone say that you're doing this as well by having the opposite opinion of everybody else on the Rihanna performance?
No, because I feel like my opinion is rooted in what I've seen and what I've seen throughout the years.
And you're saying theirs is rooted in attention.
It's not really what they feel, but what they know that they can say to get attention.
Because if I was seeking attention, I would have said from the beginning, I'm nervous about Rihanna's performance.
You know what I mean?
When they announced it, I'd have been like, oh, man, I don't know, yo.
And I'd have been pointing out all of the different times
we've seen Rihanna not be the best on stage, you know what I mean?
But I don't want her to not succeed.
Did you find that happen with you, like on your way up?
Everybody really excited for you.
And then once you guys get to the top,
did you feel like there was more hate?
No.
I think it's always been 50-50.
But I think that what we tend to do is pay attention
only to what we want to hear.
You know what I mean?
What satisfies our perception of self.
Absolutely.
But that's dangerous because you have negative perception of self,
then you're going to listen to all the negative stuff.
If you have positive perception of self,
maybe you'll only listen to the positive.
You have to have like a very balanced perspective.
You don't listen to any of it.
And if you do listen to it,
I always remember what my dad said.
You're never as good as they say you are
and you never as bad as they say you are.
My guy Cadillac Jack, Sloot to Cadillac Jack,
another great mentor of mine in this radio game.
Rule of 10.
Three people are going to do.
like it. Three people are not going to like it. Four people don't even give a fuck. Four people just
sitting around waiting to see what everybody else think. There's that great quote. Uh, you would
care. You wouldn't care so much what people think of you if you realize how little they did.
We'd be in our own heads and our own bubbles. That's why social media is so dangerous,
yo. Social media will have you thinking you got an audience. Because it's 10 people that tweet you.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Or it's five people that leave a comment on one of your videos or something.
Like, like, you really think all of a sudden you got this huge audience
and everybody gives a fuck about what you got to say.
That shit, I've seen that shit drive a lot of people mad.
Really?
That's what we need to start talking about.
I haven't come up with the term for it or what it is, but it's a disease.
Which is that is driving people mad.
That shit you're talking about with the insects taking over people's bodies?
That's what attention is.
That's what this new era is of all of this shit.
Yeah.
Whether it's the YouTube podcast or being a, uh, uh, uh, uh,
A social media influencer.
Like that shit gets to you.
Your opinions start being derived from what people are saying online.
Yo, nothing pisses me off more because I'm the type person.
I'm aware of everything, even though I might acknowledge nothing.
Right.
So I pay attention.
There's nothing worse to talk to a person and they're repeating a bunch of things they saw on social media.
And you know they got it from social media.
And all you got to do is asking why you think like that.
They have no reason.
Yeah.
They have no reason behind why they think like that.
Because all you did was see somebody saying on social media, now you're running with it.
But why do you feel that way?
They don't even know.
They just ran with it because it sounds good.
That shit is annoying.
They got the playbook on that idea.
They got the playbook on that theory.
And they just ran with all the talking points.
You see that in politics a lot.
I guess we expect it in politics, but we don't expect it in just like random culture.
And to see people just, yeah, hop on it.
Wow, yeah, that's tricky.
Yeah.
So what is that?
I'm taking all that to say you hate it.
hated Rihanna's performance is what you say. No, I didn't watch it. And then when I saw it, I was like, okay, it's fine. I wasn't like blown away by it. But I think that there was a lot more hate than was necessary. I wonder what they were expecting. I guess I had maybe a similar expectation from you. Like, I thought the cool thing about Rihanna was her vibe. And I thought that her energy and that's what people are so drawn to, not necessarily her like dancing prowess. So, pardon?
they dismissed
okay guy guys
let me tell you something about Rihanna
yeah
some people just
are stars bro
yeah yeah like
some people are just
natural born superstars
some people just got it
yeah okay
Rihanna is the type
somebody who's telling the story
the other day
I forgot who it was
but they were saying
how they were in the lobby
a deaf jam
years ago when Rihanna had
I think I don't even know
the replay was out yet
but they was like
when she walked through the lobby
everybody was turning like,
yo, who is that?
Who is that?
Who is that?
Some people just got it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That's why I hate when people say things like,
oh, you're not ugly.
You know, you just broke.
No?
You ugly?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Because Rihanna,
this person right here was this person always.
Right.
She's always been this version of herself.
Right.
You know what I mean?
It's just that she's constantly grown,
constantly above.
She's the coolest person in the room.
She got an energy.
She got a vibe.
You can't fake that shit, man.
That's why even with the debate that about this Volcker is so stupid to me.
What's the debate?
People are saying this is an agenda to amasculate the black man.
You know what I mean?
As if you've never been a man holding your child walking behind yourself.
You're black dudes can't win, bro.
You're in your kid's life.
You're holding your baby.
It's like you emasculate.
How would you want this cover?
Rocky's not there?
first of all
Rocky's nowhere to be found
first this has nothing to do with agenda
this is about star power
it's Rihanna
yeah Rihanna did the Super Bowl
not Rocky
and Rihanna's a superstar
yeah
so two things
Rihanna's a superstar
she's gonna be on the front cover
in that position regardless
and hey man I want my child
and my
you know
soon to be husband on the front cover
of old with me
yeah boom
that's what superstars do
also if you're a husband
why would you be upset
at holding your kids
kid. This is just, you know, I never realize this until right now. It's kind of hard to be black, man.
Oh, wow. I know we've been doing this Bob for about a decade and we've spoken about a lot of topics.
It's the bow cover that. Let's the bow cover. Then let me know that it's kind of hard to be a black dude, dude.
Now, it is interesting with ASAP though. Asap, you know, ASAP got a lot of flack when he first started because everybody was like, oh, you know, he's from New York, but he sounds like he's from down south.
Then they gave him a flag because he was, they said he would wear dresses.
Right. And then you know, you see things with ASAP like he went to jail and sweet.
Right. Think about this, right? There's nothing ASAP can do to win people over.
Because all of the shit that allegedly makes you real, he's done. He went to jail.
Right now he's facing charges to shooting somebody.
I thought that was the shit that Charles liked. I thought that was the shit that Charles said made a gangster.
You know what I mean?
What do you think they just don't like about him?
That he's winning.
He's with Rihanna.
Yeah.
Like, bro, he's with Rihanna.
Yeah.
He won.
There's nothing y'all can say to AASAP Rocky.
That man is, and forget the fact that he's with Rihanna.
This man is with a beautiful woman that he's raising a family with.
You can look at him and tell he's happy.
Is that not the essence of life, bro?
Yeah.
Is that not what success should be about?
Yeah.
Is that not it?
I can care less if they was worth $500.
us, they are happy.
All I see is a happy couple
on the front of Bull magazine.
If you see something else,
something's wrong with you,
yeah.
Like you ain't never held your child
and walked behind the woman you love?
Nope.
Because you ain't got kids yet.
Exactly, yeah.
And people act like it's a problem
with a woman being in front.
What if she knows what she going?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I'm saying, like,
what if I don't know where I'm going?
And I'm following my woman.
Yeah.
Or what if she forgot where she parked a car?
and then you guys are just looking for it.
I'm following my home, my woman!
Yeah.
I think there's a lot of times
where a woman will walk in front.
I don't mind my woman walking in front.
I don't even think about stuff.
Like stuff like that don't even cross my mind.
Like, I don't like it when we're walking
and then she makes like a turn somewhere
without letting me know.
Well, get off your phone and pay attention.
No, I'm paying attention.
Okay.
But like we're just walking.
Mid-sentence, she'll just make the left.
And you guys are on that street?
I'd be like, yo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
All I know is, man, I put in.
I think sometimes my wife thinks I'm the dog a little bit.
See what I mean?
Not the dog, you're just the man.
Yeah, I guess.
But, like, that is weird.
Like, you got to, like, nudge me and be like, we're turning left here.
Like, I'm halfway through the crosswalk.
And then sometimes just because I'm so frustrated.
You're giving a dog too much credit.
You got to give a dog a little pull when you want.
Pull me!
Pull me!
Sometimes just out of being pure stubbornness, I'll walk the other way.
And I'll be like, well, I'll meet you at home.
I don't give a fuck.
I'm not going to follow you around fucking Soho.
the fuck I look like a golden doodle to you.
I need a nudge or I need some sort of acknowledgement.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
My wife would just be walking mid-sentence.
Yeah, so I think maybe we should look into maybe going on safari
and then just turn that way.
Yeah.
Now I get it?
That's an asshole thing to do, right?
Is that not?
Not if you're walking together.
I just expect that I'm just like looking at her fucking head the entire time we're walking just in case she moves?
The reason I don't think so is because if y'all walking together,
clearly y'all have a destination in mind, right?
Yeah, but there's different ways to get to the destination.
So if she makes the right, just make the right way to.
If I don't know she's making the right, now I walk three steps and I got to go back.
Pay attention.
How about it to acknowledge me?
You wanted to hold your hand like Rihanna was holding ASAP's hand?
Yeah.
Okay, I'm with that.
Nothing wrong with that.
Or just follow me where the fuck we're going.
What if you don't know where you're going?
Then we're going to get there late.
The fuck we need to be early to everything.
Put the little leashes on you.
I'm okay with that.
I'm okay with that.
I just think that if a magazine cover threatens your manhood
in any way, shape, or form, you're not much of a man, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, wait, why?
Was ASAP upset it?
No.
Just people was upset saying it was a massing.
Can you grab me a water?
I'm just this like, yeah, I think men, I think are a little bit sensitive right now
to emasculation.
Why?
I think that sometimes, like,
like, put it this way.
Nothing can make me feel like less of a man.
I'm going to explain to you. You know how like white, there are certain white people that see
equality as a threat.
A threat and a loss.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
You're taking what's mine.
Them being equal with somebody else is taking something from them.
Exactly.
And I think that there are certain men that also view equality like that.
Yeah.
You know?
Ooh, that's a good point.
Because I had a thought, I feel like patriarchy and white privilege of the
same thing.
No, here we go.
No, I tell you why.
Because I feel like it puts
mediocre people in positions of power.
And it puts them in positions
that they may not be qualified to be in.
Like, just because you're a man doesn't mean you're
a fucking leader, bro.
Some of these dudes ain't going to do shit, but lead you off
a fucking cliff.
You know what I mean?
There's plenty of women that I
trust in leadership roles
way before I do dudes.
Like, just because you got a dick,
you're a man, does not mean that you qualified
to be a leader.
And if you got to,
create a system, if you have to create a system to keep you in that position of power,
you're a sucker to me. Let's get rid of the system and let's compete for real, for real.
I'm with you. I like that. I like decentralized systems because I want to compete one-on-one.
But what man has done from the beginning of time, no matter what the race is, their race is,
is the second they establish a business, they've tried to create a moat, a metaphorical moat around
that business to protect them and them only. They're the only ones that could sell this.
Hey, if you want to sell alcohol, you need a liquor license.
Why do we need a liquor license?
Well, we can't just have everybody out here selling alcohol.
So they're just trying to protect their business.
I think that is what mankind does no matter where you go.
They create a system.
They create a system to protect their business.
And I agree with you.
If your business is that good, why don't we just compete in the free market?
That's the idea of capitalism.
So it's not very capitalistic if you look at it.
But naturally, mankind, we are in a competition for resources
and we will protect those resources with whatever we can,
whether it's military,
whether it's legislation, you know,
governments, we'll find a way to do it.
So I think that is like how we naturally just gravitate towards things.
You know?
And then maybe that's better than the alternative,
which is just murdering one another.
You want to get to bucking.
Let's see what you got.
You want to get some bucking.
But you could argue that's what podcasting is,
Charlottin, like this is actually, no,
that's a good argument.
Like there's-
That's exactly what it is.
But there's radio.
right? There's a few different radio stations. Well, there's a bunch of radio stations, but there's a few different, like, syndicated national ones. And then we start podcasting. Now, you could go, you know what, fuck this. Why are we letting all these other people compete? Why are we letting all these other people get involved in this game? This game is our game and our game alone. But instead, you said, no, I'll do a podcast too. Yeah, but you know why? No, I did the podcast because of our guy Chris Moreau. You know what I mean? Yeah. But, you know,
To your point.
Meaning you weren't angry at it.
You weren't insulting them.
No, and I'm not angry at it now.
And the reason I'm not angry at it is because what we're talking about,
the cream will rise to the top.
Yeah, you believe in your ability.
And everything else will exit itself out.
Last week, New York Times,
podcast companies, once walking on air,
feels a strain of gravity.
The dumb money error is over.
As layoffs, budget cuts, and scuttle deals challenge a long, booming industry.
The dust is settling now, baby.
The dust is settling now.
This is the fun time.
Only the Strong survive, baby.
This is the fun time.
Now we really get to see what you got.
I saw the Reed celebrating 10 years.
10 years this weekend.
How many motherfuckers can say that?
That's right.
You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah.
10 years of excellence, dominance.
10 years of high listenership.
10 years of selling merch out crazy.
10 years of live sold out shows.
They put in that motherfucking work.
Built that shit brick by brick.
They have a foundation.
they have something that cannot be penetrated
and they were in on it early.
They were in on this goal rush early.
Real Nidia is celebrating 10 years this year,
even though we're a new podcast.
We're a brand new podcast.
That's about to launch.
Okay.
But we're celebrating 10 years.
I think it's next year.
No, I think this year is 10.
No, this year is 10.
Yeah, I looked it up because the Starship Enterprise
was 2013, our first episode with Jazz Fly.
I forgot exactly when, but it was 2013.
My point is the Strong have not only survived,
they've thrived
and everybody that's just jumping in now
y'all jumped in a little too late buddy
y'all jumped in a little too late
and you have to be like exceptional
like exceptional who's it
what's the last podcast you heard that's exceptional
like unbelievable like oh I gotta listen to this
I gotta check this out every week
like the most recent one that came out
yes I can't I can't think of it
meaning I like this I like competition
I like when shit dries up that's my point
but also when shit dries up
you find out who really wants to do it.
Like I think there's a lot of people in the game.
Everyone in their mother hopped in the podcast game because they're like,
because all these companies were just giving out money and all this shit.
They thought it was a quick lick.
And then once the money dries up, we get to see who really wants to be in it.
Absolutely.
And then once those people leave, you know what's more available?
The money.
Oh, oh, there's already an article.
The people who are going to make the money in podcasting over the next couple of years
are the people who are already established.
Yeah.
The reeds, the brilliant idiots.
No, seriously, these shows that have been around for five, ten years.
Yes.
Like, why am I going to spend money on a podcast that isn't proven in any way,
absolutely, shape, or form?
That's just business.
I think it's natural, like, what happens is, like, when there's a new thing.
And, again, for example, DJing wasn't new, but it became easy.
Once you had to stop lugging around a crates and you could just put everything on a USB,
the barrier of entry to DJing became really easy.
And then you saw all these celebrities.
hop on the DJ shit.
Didn't last though.
But that's my point, right?
So they hop on and everybody's like,
oh, I want to go see this celebrity DJ.
I'll see Paris Hilton DJ.
I see these people DJ
because you're just in the same room
as a celebrity
that's like a meeting Greek.
That's right.
Eventually, either the money dried up
or they weren't that good
or whatever it is,
and then they leave the game.
And I think that's probably
what ends up happening in a podcast.
Yes, man.
And listen, the reason I always keep going back
to the read, even though they have a love-hate relationship
with me and I understand why.
You know, I can be a bit much.
I have been a bit much over the years.
But the reason I keep going back to them
is because the first time I ever saw Kid Fury,
Kid Fury was on YouTube 15 years ago.
Yeah.
Like honing his craft.
And you could tell, like,
this kid's got, this guy's special.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, he just had something, right?
Same thing with a crystal.
You can take Crystal and put her anywhere
and it translates.
We've seen it.
When I used to have her on Uncommon Sense,
you put Crystal next to anybody
She's bodying folks.
So when you take these two together and these people have more than put in their 10,000 hours,
that's how you build something special like you read.
You look at the brilliant idiots.
Okay, Chris says, I'm going to go get this guy, this guy that does morning radio telling him he needs to do a podcast.
Oh, Andrew Shokes, stand-up comedian.
You see him on guy cold giving these takes.
See them on social media giving these takes.
This got to translate the podcast, right?
Ten years later, boom.
We still hear about the grace of God.
and because, you know, we got a great fan base
that listens to us.
That's the difference.
Yeah.
Then just bringing,
you really got people that think
they can just come off the street yesterday
and we make it look that easy
that you can just get in front of a microphone
and just talk.
And you wonder why your shit ain't translating.
Yeah.
You wonder why your shit not connected with nobody.
Yes, you can.
You can start today.
You can start today.
It'd be a huge.
I've told you this before and I'm going to tell you again.
I hate your business.
I've told him this before.
I hate, I hate WT.
Listen, this woman, right?
This woman, we need to protect this woman that posted this.
Who's this woman, y'all?
I retweeted her.
Her name is at the baddest Mitch on Twitter.
She said the CIA dropped those red cartoon boots off into black neighborhoods like they did crack, fireworks, and podcast mics.
I agree with her.
I 100% agree with her.
And y'all should start having more criteria.
Son, I'm in Soho.
What'd you be?
What do you mean?
Yeah, that's true.
What did that mean?
I'm not in the hook.
Huh?
I'm not in the hood.
You said,
no, I mean, y'all should start having more checks and balances.
You should do mental evaluation tests for people who want podcasts.
You should sit them down and ask them.
So I got to kick your ass out of here then.
Maybe.
But you should ask them why they want to start a podcast.
Seriously.
But no, I think we got to be supportive with everybody wants to do it.
And I don't say that just to support your business.
I mean that sincerely because I think that's how you show the cream.
Right.
It's like, I want everybody to try podcasts.
I want every famous person.
and think is just talking on mic.
I feel the same way about stand-up.
That's true.
I always more people tried stand-up so they know how fucking hard it is.
A lot of people never tried Santa.
They make their friends laugh.
They make the people at work laugh.
So they're like, oh, yeah, I can just go on stage.
I like, I'm sure the same thing exists with radio.
It's different when you got to go for hours and talk on a microphone,
and then you realize that your show's bombing and it's like, oh.
You know why you're right?
Because now you'll get that person on the right path.
See?
Now that person will go figure out what it is.
They should actually be doing it.
And they put some new respect on the game.
They go, oh, wow.
these people are really good at that thing.
That's a skill.
And the fact that it looks accessible,
the fact that it looks like you can do it shows our skill.
Yes, right.
And I want everything to look easy.
And I don't want to,
I'm not shitting on the people coming fresh off the street
because that wouldn't be right, right?
Because once again,
the reader is a perfect example,
a horrible decision,
a perfect example of people who didn't have any experience in media,
but clearly had a calling to be in front of these microphones.
Because to Andrew's point,
you got celebrities?
You got successful comedians, singers, rappers who do podcasts and they don't work.
You know what I mean?
This shit is not for everybody.
And you will know pretty quickly whether or not this shit is for you.
Do you remember the first podcast we put out?
Yeah.
Of course, you remember.
But you know how many views it had?
50,000.
50,000.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, shit.
Because in my mind, damn, Alex.
See?
No, you keep trying to put this shit in my mouth.
He pulled it by you.
Hold a wire underneath.
That was God saying, don't suck your own dick right now.
That's what God was saying.
Stay humble.
No, but in my mind, I was like, yo, I didn't think nobody wanted to listen to me outside
of radio.
That's really how I felt.
That's one of the reasons when Chris came to me about doing a podcast, I was like, why would
I do a podcast?
I got morning radio.
And in my mind, I was like, I don't think, I was like, why would people want to hear
me when I'm not on a radio?
I knew people would want to hear you.
I didn't.
I'm not even joking.
When I saw that 50,000, I was like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
Then we were texting each other like, yo, you know we're number one on these Apple charts shit?
You know, they got charts for podcasting and we're number one on this shit.
Like, I didn't think nothing of it.
So then it just became a thing of I thoroughly enjoyed coming here every week and kicking shit with my friend.
Yeah.
Yeah, go, go, go.
I remember getting a check.
And you were like, huh?
And I remember one day, Andrew was like, whoa!
We're freaking money!
He was like, oh my God, this shit is unbelievable.
And it was unbelievable.
I was like, hold up, you get paid for this shit too.
I didn't, Chris ain't say that part.
He just was telling me to start a podcast.
I'm like, all, why not?
Because I saw a combat jack doing it.
I saw the read doing it.
Champs podcast is another one, Neil Brennan and Motion Cash.
But I just thought that was some niche shit.
Yeah.
Now it's everybody's doing it.
Which is great.
I know that frustrates you, but I do think it's great
because I want more people to do something.
so they appreciate what greatness is within it.
It's like the more people that play basketball
recognize how great Jordan is.
The more people who play soccer, recognize
how great Messi Ronaldo is.
So I like it.
I like more people being interested.
Also, the more people who are doing podcasts
and listen to podcasts,
the more podcast fans there are
because their fans will also seek out other podcasts.
The more interest there is in a space,
one, the more money is in a space,
the more eyeballs are in a space.
It's like, it's great for...
Yeah, I don't know how much the podcast audience is growing.
That's the only thing that's kind of scary.
Oh, I think it's growing like crazy.
I don't think, I'm not sure.
You think about it like this.
The movie you people, the leads are podcasting.
The show Sex and the City,
Shorty comes back to do a podcast.
Like podcast becomes part of the lexicon.
It's almost like, you know how jiu-jitsu is really popular?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, like the martial art?
Like in movies back in the day, when we were growing up,
it was karate, right?
Absolutely.
Now you see the movies it's jujitsu.
It's just the new trending thing that people are really into.
And the more popular it is,
like the more Phildos classes are, et cetera.
So I think it's, I love it.
I love it.
Yeah, and I want to salute the loudspeaker network.
You know what I mean?
Sloat to my guy, Norrie.
I saw Nori had everybody upset
because of some comments that he made about a loudspeaker.
We can play the comments.
He said about loudspeakers?
Yeah, he was saying about loudspeakers.
A lot of y'all do.
was out here giving y'all
YouTube's away for free.
Y'all was signed to
what's that shit sound?
What was the shit?
The tax and all of them
were signed to.
We did Matt ran it.
Oh, shit.
He's dropping it.
Get some hate out.
Yeah.
All of them was.
We're from Queens.
Yes.
We're from Queens.
We are from Queens.
All of them was on this label
giving their YouTube's
away for free.
I'm the first dude
that had a three deal
for the same crack.
You know, me and Norie spoke about it.
You know, the reality of this situation is Noir was just wrong.
You know what I mean?
Because the things he said about loudspeaker just weren't true.
You know, and rest in peace, the Combat Jack.
And, you know, I think maybe people didn't know.
I thought they did.
Combat Jack wasn't signed the loudspeaker network.
He owned Live Speaker Network.
You know what I'm saying?
Combat Jack, Chris Moreau, they owned the Live Speakers Network.
They founded the Live Speakers Network.
They launched the Live Speakers Network.
They owned the Live Speaker Network.
To reduce combat to just a talent that was signed to a company,
that's not accurate, you know, in any way, shape, or form.
And I think Norie was saying how, you know,
people were signing their YouTube's over the loudspeaker.
Live speaker was not on YouTube.
You know what I mean?
And then when they did, like when Combat was posting his show on YouTube
after a while under the loudspeaker network,
that was Combat Jack doing that for his show.
You know, did it.
So anybody saying,
The crowd speaker, you know, takes money from artists or takes money from talent.
Yeah.
That's just not accurate.
That wasn't accurate.
That wasn't accurate at all.
And I mean, Norie, you know, he knew he didn't have information right after we spoke, you know.
Well, hopefully he'll correct that then.
Yeah.
Hopefully.
I don't know if he might have already.
I don't know.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's tricky.
I'm sure like you probably come from a business that's a little bit more exploitative.
Is that the word?
Right.
He comes from that.
Absolutely.
So he probably assumes the same thing would apply to podcasting.
But the reality is, especially in the early days of podcasting, that's not the case at all.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, yes.
And she, I saw Norie tweet this.
He said in December, I guess you wanted to come on drink champs.
Remember, FYI, I would never discombat our attacks, but I did state facts.
And I never diss loudspeaker after watching the whole thing.
Not what?
Oh, not clips.
Yeah.
But Norrie wasn't state.
in fact stuff. So yeah,
don't do that to loudspeaker. Like, let's, like,
if we're going to be accurate about
history and,
and, you know, who did what in the
podcast space, you can't even
have those conversations without talking about
the loudspeaker network. Yeah. The first hip
hip-hop podcast were Combat Jack
and Warnap. And I don't even think I like those guys.
Okay? But I would say that. You know what I mean?
I'm not going to ever hate on them in that way.
Because history is history. You're not
You're not going to ever, you know, take away somebody's history.
Yeah.
First hip-hop podcast were Combat Jack and Juan E.
Those were the first two I remember.
Right.
Those were the first two.
First lifestyle commentary podcast I personally heard was the read in Joe Rogan.
Yeah.
Those are the ones that I heard about.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So, you know, let's give credit with credit to do people.
All right?
You want to pay some bills?
Let's do it.
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Now let's get back to the show.
Let's do some church announcements, what you got shows?
Yo, I've agreed to do one stand-up show.
Ooh.
I'm coming up to Calgary.
And I'm going to do a show up in Calgary.
I think it's August 27th tickets at DeAndrewsholtz.com.
The Great Outdoors Festival.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I've seen some videos and pictures of this place.
It looks fucking unbelievable.
So I was like, this looks really good.
So, yeah, but I'm back in the clubs and I'm back up and it's exciting to be doing stand-up again.
And yeah, I'm excited to, I'm very excited, man.
I'm very excited.
So, yeah, I've agreed to go do that.
That's August 27th.
Go get those tickets, the Andrew Sholes.com.
What do I have?
I will be doing the Roots Picnic on the June.
Well, the Roots Picnic is June 2nd through the 4th in Philadelphia.
I'll be on the podcast stage at the Roots Picnic.
I was trying to make it a brilliant idiotic thing, but Shorts never responded back to me.
I did say, I said, I said, I'm down.
No, you did not.
I did.
I text you and I said, yo, you want to do the Roots Picnic?
You left me on Reed.
Red?
What I say?
What I say.
You talk for a living.
What I say, yo.
What I say, yo.
Yeah, that.
Wait a minute.
So what's the deal?
Well, I mean, they, I wanted to do brilliant idiots because, you know, they asked me to do it.
And so now I'm going to do, um, I'm doing a one-on-one conversation with somebody.
All right.
Well, maybe that's the reason.
What?
No, I wanted to do idiots.
I had to give them an answer.
I hit you.
I said, Joe, you want to do, let me see.
I can't even find the fucking text now.
Well, is it too late to change it?
Because I don't know, you know.
The people would love to see you guys do a live show.
I don't know
I mean I'm
Listen
Listen I don't want to
I'm not against it
I don't want to
Encroach on this one-on-one
Maybe it's a really interesting one-on-one interview
Maybe
Yeah
But
Might actually be even better
If it's a tag team
Well there's no question
It'd be better
But I don't want to
I actually would like to see you
in conversation with this person.
If it's Dr. Umar Johnson,
we're going to shut down the entire internet.
And I must be there.
Oh, fuck.
It's not Dr. Um, but we'll see.
Can you say who it is?
Um,
not because it's not confirmed yet.
Yeah.
But, uh, yeah, I'll be doing the Roots picnic June 2nd, 4th.
Maybe it'll be a brand-nidst thing.
I don't know.
Um, yes, we haven't announced that yet, though, Taylor, but we will be announced
out the Roots picnic, man.
That's a really cool.
I want to feel of energy.
Like, I've never been.
It's really cool.
man.
I've won a couple times.
It's great.
Yeah, I heard.
I've seen a lot.
Yeah, I've just, I don't know.
I think the energy around it is always really cool.
And I think Quest is the man, so.
Quest is that guy.
I've never been.
You really is that guy.
So, you know, the fact that they want me to headline the podcast this year.
I think that's a great idea by them.
And I think that you would have an awesome one-on-one interview with whoever it is.
And brilliant idiots would be crazy.
But if they want to do a brilliant idiots and, you know, obviously the schedule is all
aligned.
I'd be down for that too, man.
Oh, we figure it out.
What else we got?
have something else I wanted to say for church announcements. God damn it. What else? What else? What else? Oh, I forgot.
Salute to Erica Alexander for winning the DuPont Award for Finding Tamika and Erica is also nominated for what they called a, uh, god damn it. Chris, why are you not here? Hold on. What's this thing called? Because Chris nominated for it too. The, uh, I can't find this shit. Oh, the ambies.
Finding Tamika is also nominated
at the Ambys for Best Documentary
Excellence in Audio
and Summer of 85
is also nominated
I forgot what category though
text me and tell me what category Chris
but Chris is nominated at the Ambys
too
What is Amby 5 for?
He's nominated for
Summer of 85 oh the Audi
oh my bad summer of 85 is dominated
for the Audi Award
he's just a big audio award
like the DuPont is like
like the Oscar of
Audio Award. Gotcha.
And Finding Tamika won that
it's an award that Columbia University
gives out. But then the Ambys and the
Audies are also two big, huge
award shows in the audio space.
So some of 85 nominated for an Audi
and Finding Tamika's nominated for an ambi.
So we're doing our thing at SBA productions with Audible, man.
And we got two more projects coming out
this year. Can't wait to tell you
all what those are. I can tell y'all
one of them though. Because we already
announced him. Unleased
With Love by Alicia Renee.
That would be our first scripted.
She wrote it?
Her and Sarita.
Serita,
uh, I'm blanking on Terita's last name.
Her and a young lady named Sarita wrote
Unleased with Love.
And it will be out
later this year.
So look for that. That'll be the next release
coming out on Audible.
Um, what else we got? Let's do some
asking idiots, man.
Because we got things to D.
D.
Sarita Wesley.
Salute to you, Sarita.
We got things to D.U.
Salute to Jess O'Larous.
Just Alaris will be hosting with us on Breakfast Club all week long.
Y'all got to stop with everybody being your favorite guest host, too, man.
That's why you don't listen to the internet.
G.C. 77.
Says Shoch, when did they sell Caprize for men?
Bro.
Today I looked at my own pants.
And I was like, man, these are a little short.
Yes, bro.
Don't yes, bro.
You've been wearing short pants, too, after you follow me, bro.
You've been following me, bro.
Go look at every flagrant episode.
This guy got the ankles out just like your voice.
Whatever I do, people do.
You cut the shins out.
You're talking about the tastemaker.
You got the shins out.
You're talking about the gatekeeper.
You're talking about the king maker right now.
My pants is exactly as long as they're supposed to be.
The reason why your pants don't touch your angles is because you're a midget.
What's this guy's name?
What's this guy's name?
Did you think you just say that your shit's a small?
What's this?
Yeah, yeah.
but then I flip.
I realize my confidence needs to come back.
GC 77.
Yeah, GC77.
Okay?
Gc 77,
get longer legs.
Why don't you get some longer legs?
This is what happens
in pants where you got long legs.
Okay?
Simple as that.
Don't be mad at me.
Be mad at your parents.
Welcome to life over six feet.
Yeah, yeah.
Wooed that one, Charlotte.
Yeah.
Woo.
I don't even realize I'm short, bro.
Thank you.
I don't.
I only realize it's short neither.
I walk in the room looking down on people.
Exactly.
Thank you.
I'm with you in that regard.
I don't be realizing I'm short.
All right, Yorker T.
If Thanos snaps all the black people out of the U.S.,
how many things will perish?
I don't even know what that means.
Parrish?
Oh, he meant perish.
Yeah.
Oh, it's okay.
He tried his best.
Great movie.
I mean, great play.
There's a great play called Ain't No More
that Jordan Cooper wrote.
Lee Daniels lean away for producers on it.
And they are,
they addressed this in a way
that I don't even know
if they addressed it
and what I found interesting
about it, the play is about
a group, like black people
basically get allotted
a one-way ticket back to Africa
for all the black people in America
can leave and, you know,
go live in Africa
and there's this bag
in the play and the bag
basically represents all the things
that black people have contributed
to culture.
So one of the characters is like,
we can't leave that bag.
I'm not even all the black people don't leave,
but you can't leave this bag,
you can't leave this bag, you can't leave this bag.
But at the end, am I giving away the play?
At the end of the play,
when he tries to take the bag,
the bag won't move.
The bag doesn't want to come.
The bag is like not going.
But what that symbolized,
at least to me,
was the stuff that we used here
to survive and then
thrive, we don't need it where we're going.
That's just baggage.
Like, that served us already.
Leave it. You know what I'm saying?
So when you say snap all black people out of the U.S., how many things will perish?
I don't know because I don't know how many things are actually for others as opposed to those things actually being for us.
I think what he's trying to say is like what will we stop watching the NBA?
Like, you know, is...
No, you got MacKamong.
Don't do it.
All it's going to do is...
Don't do it.
I'm just going to make room for those white guys who can ball.
Oh, I thought you were doing what you were doing earlier again.
You know what?
No, I'm not doing honky tongue, man.
You were doing a hongky tongue.
You were doing Asian honky tongue.
I'm just saying, it's going to make more room for those guys.
I bet you there's a bunch of MacMacongs in the G-League.
Bro?
Stop it.
That shit sounded crazy.
You need to chill out, man.
I felt like I said something about a gong.
Did I?
Charlemagne?
That's crazy.
Charlemagne.
Charlemagne, you're doing it again.
You're getting a little riled up.
You're getting a little riled up.
When you get a little riled up, bring it down.
Bring it down.
You're too high.
You're too high.
Come on.
You don't need to be that tall.
No, you don't.
Come down.
Victoria Amars says.
God damn.
Gosh darn it
Gosh darn it
You did it again
Every once in a while
You let one slip out
And you don't realize it
And then you just keep moving on
There was no need for me to be that high
Is that it?
I'm gonna bring it
Me and Jeremy Lynn
We're gonna bring it right back down here
You keep saying Asian things
No I'm not
You do keep saying it
Am I supposed to believe
That was just a random
analogy that you were using right there?
Well I use two of them
I use the tall one
And the shorter one
Is that like a ying and a yang or like...
Exactly.
Okay.
That's all.
All right.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
That makes sense.
Nola Scope says if your industry didn't exist, what will be your...
God damn it.
Let me tell you.
I'm read the shit the way he wrote it.
If your industry wouldn't exist, what would be your of you guys?
I don't even know what the fuck he's trying to say.
Like, what would we do?
I guess that's what he's trying to say.
If your industry wouldn't exist, what would be your of you guys?
I'd probably be a Chinese spy balloon pilot.
I think that's what I would do for a living.
I'd be a Chinese spy balloon pilot.
But you don't even got to be in the spy balloon, though.
You can do that shit from remote control somewhere.
Yo, do you think they drive the balloons because in the air you have the least chance of crashing?
Yeah.
I think so.
That makes a lot of fun.
Pack 246 says, when were you most star-struck in your life?
What was that most star-struck?
Star-struck.
I've never been Starstruck.
You've never been Starstruck?
Nah, I've been stupid.
First didn't have me Starstruck.
It was just, like, stupid.
I just was dumb when I was like...
That's what Starstruck is.
Nah.
Nah.
It was just early in the morning.
What?
What?
What?
I didn't realize how many Asian sounds you just make...
It's unbelievable, bro.
Yeah, it's crazy, bro.
It's un-fucking-beliefing those sounds.
It's super Asian, though.
I'm hearing so much goddamn cultural appropriation is crazy.
You really do, man.
Oh, you said me?
I thought you just meant in general.
I thought you talked about like juvenile, huh?
No, you just did that.
What I said?
You said, huh?
No, I did not.
This guy.
I did not do that.
This guy.
I'm not doing anything.
You are being you.
I do think, but by the way, we do need the moral of this whole thing.
What is the moral of this?
To bring together the fact that people down south do sound Asian.
And Asians do sound like honky-talk people.
We did not realize that until the day.
They do.
So there's a similarity there.
They do.
We need to show that.
I'm almost like, do we try to slow down Chinese and see what it's like?
I think we should.
I think we should do it because somebody's going to do it.
Somebody's going to hear this episode and they're going to do it.
They're going to chop and screw the Chinese people and then they're going to speed up honky-tong people to see what the similarities are.
So you might as well do it ourselves.
What you think?
I think, yeah, I think we're just coming closer together.
It'd be beautiful to find out that Mandarin or Cantonese is really just like a special.
a version of like American Southern Twang.
That's beautiful.
Let's end on this one.
This is good.
Brad Crim 3 says,
how you feel about the NBA celebrating LeBron so much?
I told you people just live to head down successful people.
Yeah.
That is a fucked up question, yo.
Why shouldn't they celebrate him?
He just broke the all-time NBA scoring record,
meaning that there's nobody in the history of the NBA who has scored
more points than him.
That is a huge deal
in a sport.
Like basketball.
Why wouldn't they celebrate him?
They should celebrate him, bro.
This is history.
This is absolute positive history.
Like, that's just a wild
question to ask.
How do we feel about the NBA celebrating LeBron so much?
What are they supposed to do?
What are they supposed to do?
Who are they supposed to celebrate this year?
If not LeBron.
Matt McCong?
It's McClung, bro.
his name? Matt McClung.
Matt McClung?
Yeah. Every time I say that shit, I hit a gong go off, bro.
It's crazy. Yeah, you're like an interesting guy, man.
What do you mean? You just need everything to be Asian. I think you really just love Asia so much.
I think you have a real affinity for Asia. I do. We're supposed to go to Asia this summer,
actually. Really? We're supposed to. If Weezy put the trip together. Where in Asia?
shit i don't want to say now because it might not be asia i thought it was asia
japan is in asia
yeah i thought so y'all made me y'all have me questioning myself like damn did i say something wrong
japan is asia japan is very asia crazy very crazy yeah yeah yeah it's super asia
they flag or throw you off though what you never seen the flag of japan oh yeah yeah yeah
pull up the flag of japan bro what the rising sun
that's what that is?
Yeah.
What did you think it was?
I don't want to say.
Bring up that goddamn flag immediately.
You know, bring up that fucking flag.
Pull up the flag.
Pull up the flag.
Pull up the flag.
We can end on this.
Just get the Japanese flag, Taylor.
If we don't edit it.
Japanese.
So I don't know how this is going to be taking.
But there's a long time.
For a long time.
You thought that was the Indian flag?
You thought it was an Indian flag?
flag.
You thought it was the Indian flag.
Amen.
Just a little.
Huh?
India is in Asia.
But I understand why you thought it was the Indian flag.
That's all I'm saying, bro.
That does make sense.
No, no, no, no.
I think that's all I'm saying.
But I didn't know any better.
That's all I'm saying.
But that is the Japanese flag.
And you said that's the rising sun.
They are the land of the rising sun.
Word.
Okay.
That's it.
Yeah, the sun rises in the east.
That's in the west.
Boom.
I'm right.
We got it.
You learned.
As always.
We don't want to try it.
No.
As always, if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're absolutely right.
But if you listen to this podcast and you think that, you know, I don't even remember what the fuck I'm saying.
Hold on.
Oh, we think we're smart.
If you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant.
You're absolutely right to you.
It's the brilliant and idiotist podcast.
Thank you for listening.
