The Brilliant Idiots - ReeC**k Pumps

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

On this week’s Brilliant Idiots episode, Charlamagne and Andrew are all over the place (in the best way possible). They chop it up about everything from escaping reality with movies to how kids’ shows handle gender representation. Hunter Biden’s wild crack comments? Yeah, they go there. Political convos, messy workplace relationships, and the pay gap in the WNBA all get their shine too. Of course, celebrity culture gets its own spotlight—Ray J’s name definitely comes up. The guys keep it real about social media, public perception, and how we hold people accountable. They even take a moment to reflect on the cultural impact of The Cosby Show and the tragic loss of Malcolm Jamal Warner, plus how TV keeps evolving. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Shalameen, guys. Andrews So. We are the Brilliant Idiot's podcast. Back for another week of Brilliant Idiotness. Everkaya Walk up. Hello. Listen, you got to make sure your posture is correct. Talk to me.

Because we be on motherfucking the news. And, like, people will be saying things to me. Shout out to my man Jim Kerr. Jim Kerr is an OG radio personality here in New York City. He been on the air for like 50-something years on K-TU. He goes, yeah, I saw you. He said, you're always popping up on the news. He said, you're always popping up on the news.

And he was like, it was you and this white guy. And he was like, the guy was sitting like this. He just tried to, he was like, the guy was just sitting like this. I'm just like, he really tried to make you look handicapped. And it wasn't his fault. He was just trying to describe you. He's an older guy trying to describe what he saw. Yeah, I got a little Stephen Hawking in me, man.

It looked like you guys just folded me up and sat me here. Sometimes I'll watch the bottom. I'm like, how is that even comfortable? Like, this isn't bad, this is comfy, but sometimes I get, like, all crossed over like this. I'm trying to tell you, and it's like whenever the clips that they use that go viral, it's always you looking like your body is throwing up a gang time. So that would make you a trip if you're... Okay.

How was you week, man? Oh, great. I can't wait to see Fantastic Four this week. Really? I can't wait, bro. Talk to me. I mean, just because the movie theater is my happy place. Like, I really like being in a movie theater.

I like the popcorn. I like the peanut M&Ms. It's just something about being in a movie theater that allows me to escape. And, you know, Superman came out a couple weeks ago, went and saw that. Went and saw the Smurfs last week with my kids. Oh, how was that?

I don't fucking know. I fell asleep within 20 minutes. Because we went on a Friday, you know what I'm saying? You go on a Friday. It's a long day. Oh, a long week, you know what I'm saying? I'm sitting there like 4 o'clock in the afternoon. and my mind just starting wandering

because I'm watching the movie and the first thing I think to myself is why ain't no goddamn women in Smurfville? There's one. Smurfette's the only motherfucking one. She's working overtime. That's what I'm saying. Are they running trains on Smurfette?

Like, how are they creating other Smurfs? And then as I'm thinking that, they show in the movie how Smurfette wasn't even naturally born. What? She's made a clay. And then? I think Gargan,

somebody made her. Yeah. And magic bought her to life. And so I go and do Google. I'm Googling in the movie because I really don't give up. Yeah. I'm like, what the fuck? So I Google in the movie and it says all the women in Smurf Village are made out of magic.

Well, this is the Adam and Eve story. Oh, but the rib. Yeah, but at least they were made out of another smurf. My point is, who the fuck is Mama Smurf? It's a Papa Smurf and no Mama Smurf? none of the smirfs none of the my point is this

they say the storks bring the smirce but like think about how well society functions without women like the smirfs get along really well no bro that smurf village is the gayest village since the goddamn village that's right around the corner of New York fuck out like no

like one of them is grouchy why do you think he's so mad ain't no fucking cheeks in the motherfucking village not coughing it up you know what's her name again There's no mama smurfs. Oh, Smurfette. Smurfette. But they all love smirp.

I think there was one other one, but she's not in the movie. Really? Nah, bro. Yeah, it's interesting the things you focus on in a kid's movie like that. You're like, who's getting pussy in here? Yo, how do these smirks getting pussy? Because there's nothing else to think about. Like, Disney movies at least give you something else to see.

Like, Disney movies actually have a plot and a premise. Like, the Disney cartoons, like, there's a larger theme. This is a straight-up kids movie. Yeah, even Pixar. Pixar has a larger theme to them. That's what, that's why I actually. ask you how the movie was because I appreciate the kids movies that have

the adult themes like Zootopia. Did you watch Zootopia? Like as an adult you can watch it and enjoy it for a completely different reason than the kids do and now you're giving some joy to the adult and the children that are there and everybody's happy. But these like children's

shows like Miss Rachel or like blues clues or these types is just for the kid. Yes. There's no educational. Yeah but it's no. Sesame Street. You be for the adults and the kid. And then they made a more addictive version of the TV for the kid

and sacrificed the adult's enjoyment. So the kids watched by themselves and now the adults and the kids aren't watching the show together. That makes a lot of motherfucking sense because I think anything that can be spoofed for adults actually has something in it for adults. Sesame Street could be spoofed for

adults. Wasn't there like funny little sexual innuendo and jokes in Sesame Street but they didn't really acknowledge it? Like the kids would never be able to... Yeah, like Big br-bris, what, what, Snuffalofugus was gay? Bert and Ernie, they said might be gay. Anyway, like, they were actually. Oscar the Groucher was Hunter Biden.

To, huh. What? No, I'm just saying. Yes. How did Andrew Callahan get an interview with Hunter Biden, bro? Shout out to Andrew Callahan and Channel 5 News. He's the guy who did the Biden interview. You didn't see this?

No, I thought it was Jamie fucking Harrison. No, this is Channel 5 News. Is Andrew Kelly? I didn't pay no attention to you. I saw two. I saw one with Jamie Harrison and Hunter Biden. And I just thought that was the same interview. He's like super cracked out.

He's just going crazy. I loved it. Hunter Biden made crack sound tasty. Wait, why? What do you say? You didn't see it? We don't have to. You got to find that, Alex.

You got to find Hunter Biden describing crack. I saw the clip that's driving up for George Clooney. Oh, please. Eh, eh. Yeah. Find the clip of Hunter Biden talking about crack. I saw Push-a-T reposted and put deep. Matter of fact, go to Push-A's Twitter page.

It's up on Push-A's Twitter page. You're not going to tell me that Hunter Biden didn't make crack sound tasty. What? That was a just say yes ad, bro. Pull it up. No, you don't. They go on X? Oh, no.

There we go, Al. Yeah, click on that. Yeah, yeah. Click on that. Because the video is in there. Like, the clip's going to use this shit for their next. See it right there? The clip's going to use this for like an intro on their next album or something.

Bush has got to use this for an intro on his mixtape with something. Yeah. What the fuck is this shit? You got to do all this to get on? Just to listen to Hunter Biden? What? Yeah, this is crazy, Al. We need Taylor immediately.

Yo, shout out to Taylor. Taylor gang. Taylor's a father. Congratulations, Taylor. She did it. Congratulations. We love you, Taylor. Taylor's a hardworking young lady, bro.

Why, what's she doing? Who the fuck text the group chat? I just had a baby. I just want to point out. I texted her, and then she's like, I just had the baby, and then she texted the group. Who does that? I've seen four these happen.

My wife don't want to do this shit. I'm upset of y'all. I'm upset of y'all. No, I've been checking in. I've definitely been checking in. Let's hear this, man. This is Hunter Biden. There's the only difference between crack cocaine and cocaine is sodium

bicarbonate and water and heat, literally. That's it? That's it. And those things are pretty much free if you go to, like, a science store. This is free. You can go to your neighborhood convenience store and just get, anyway, I don't want to tell people how to make crack cocaine, but it literally is a manage jar, cocaine, and baking soda. How different is the experience? It's vastly, vastly different. And, like, for real, I feel really reluctant to kind of have

some euphoric discussion. I know you're not asking me to do that, but have some euphoric discussion about crack cocaine. I think this might be kind of the opposite here. Okay, no, it's the exact opposite. I'm saying I don't want to have the experience of some euphoric recall. Okay, mouth water. That's how powerful crack cocaine is. Does crack cocaine make you act any differently? No.

Is it safer than alcohol? Probably. People think of crack as being dirty. It's the exact opposite. When you make crack, what you're doing is you're burning off all the impurities so that it combined with the sodium bicarbonate, which makes it smokeable. That's all.

You know, all of these actors and, you know, people in the past that talked about they had a problem with cocaine and free basing. They were smoking crack. So straw on the stove is the same thing. Not exactly, but close to it. But it's a little bit different. But anyway, my point about it, your point about it, which I think is true,

is that there's a thing about crack that is really insidious. And what it is is that any time, you know, I think one of the reasons they believe that smoking cigarettes is so addictive is because it combines three really important things. Watch what you say. It's habit forming. There is an oral fixation, and there is a ritual combined with it. And so the idea of hand to mouth is a habit and a fixation

that we learn very early, even as children, with a pacifier, with a spoon, with your thumb, even to breastfeed. Okay, so that really. And I don't want to get into the psychology of it because I'm no expert. But I do know this, is that you combine with that ignition, combustion. And then you combine the ritual. You have your cigarette in the morning. You have a cigarette when you get out of the car.

You have your cigarette with your coffee. Crack is that on steroids. It's over and over. It's ritual to it. There's a ritualized part of it. The combination of all of those addictive behaviors together becomes, like, really powerful. And the drug in and of itself is a more immediate, euphoric sensation

connected to it than, in my experience, cocaine alone. Does it require more frequency to maintain the high? Yes. Yes. And the capacity to use more than you could otherwise with powder cocaine, just physically to be able to ingest it. So you're kind of saying that cocaine reaches a certain plateau of euphoria where you can't necessarily get any higher? My experience, yes. This is like a PSA. If you want to completely utterly fuck up your life, you know, I don't think that anything is necessarily, oh, you do it once you take it. But there's about the closest thing that statement could be true would be with crack cocaine. Bring me some motherfucking your crack.

Godly. That's the just say yes ad, bro. Godly. He's a crackologist, bro. Like, that motherfucker made that shit sound tasty as fuck. And he also justified. He's like, it's not as bad as alcohol. It's pure.

You know what I'm saying. Chemicals out of there. All these other actors have done it. Like, he's spent a lot of time justifying his crack. He really likes crack. Yeah, he does. That motherfucker enjoy crack. If you enjoy crack that much to smoke it in.

Yeah. I'm not going to front. If you can, if you make it. That's not an addiction. He just enjoys it. And he told us why people like sucking dick. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point.

So that's the most articulate cracket I've ever seen. Never heard it explain like that in my fucking life. No, no, you could definitely tell why he earned his position on the Ukrainian oil company. I could see why he got that. And by the way, that's a privilege crackhead. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

When you talk about white privilege, you're talking about that cocaine. Okay, that could have done Coke Yeah, I know He chose to do Crack He chose to fry it Yeah Like cocaine ain't a number fried Crack is number fried Coke

Yeah You get it You put a little powder with it You know what I'm saying You fry it up And make a nice tasty treat Like he made that You know how the people

Come to your fucking table If I had If I, when I have a fine dining restaurant If I ever decide to go that route I'm going to show All my waiters that video Because when you come to the table

And they say let me tell you about the specials. I need you to describe the specials the way Hunter Biden describes crack. God, damn. I was wondering where you was going. No, that's a good point. You want them to be that addicted to.

You want them to have that level of passion. I mean, he even prefaced it in the beginning. He said, I don't want to have a recall of euphoria. He's like, I'm afraid of telling you how good it is because I don't want to have that memory of how good it is. Wow. Ooh, I want to spoof that, but I wanted to be a guy who used to be gay, but he's delivered now.

He's like, yo, crack was the best, man. No, no, not crack. Well, technically. He's like it reminds me of the glass pipe. Oh, man, the crack was so good. I just crack. You take the lighter and you hold the pipe and do like this. It's the same with the balls.

That's disgusting. It's a little too much. No too much. It's just too much. That's too much, that. It's disgusting. Yeah, Pete Buttigieg on a pot one time. Pete's been there a lot, man.

Shout out to Pete Buttigieg. You had Mayor Pete on, man. How was he? I mean, Pete's always good. I always give Pete all the credit in the world because Pete comes to platforms when he don't have to. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? He comes to platforms when he's not campaigning, when he's not in office. He's just trying to make a genuine connection with the people. You know, he spoke about stuff that, you know, like backlash that he got from, you know, flagrant and...

Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was saying, like, you know, people just have things misconstrued. Like, he was like, you know, they don't like when... And he said this, but he said they don't like when they see people like him in right-wing spaces, but he said, I don't consider Flagrant a right-wing space, you know what I mean? But he was like, he said it reminded him of when he first started going on Fox News years ago. Like the same flak he got for going on flagrant reminded him of how when he first started going on Fox News years ago.

But it's just like why. It was also his biggest interview that he's had. I think so. So like there's the bigger the interview, the more flak that's going to come with it in general. But like we got like some crazy statistics on it. Like it was, I mean, it was insane. Well, like views are engagement or 44 million views. Damn.

Oh, what? On just impression? lost different platforms and everything like that. Engagements, 2.8 million engagements, 36 million observed views, 8 million estimated based on engagements for platforms that don't report views. So, like, 78% of engagements came from posts from progressive pages, 20 from neutral, 2% conservative. That's what I'm trying to say.

It's like, oh, I got this pushback. It's like, from your own people. Like, it's like, but you know why, though? the algorithm doesn't know the difference. The best conversations are the one that get everybody going. It gets both sides going because most people probably didn't even watch the interview.

So if you didn't watch the interview, you just already, you have a visceral reaction. How dare Pete, sit down with Andrew Schultz, right? How dare, right? But those who watched the interview were like actually breaking down pieces of the interview. You could tell it's like everybody who watched it was like applauded. They were like, this is amazing. You've got to have these conversations.

This is incredible. All this about. The comments on the episode, right? So it's like, this is why I laugh so much when people are like, right-wing parking. The comments on the episode are like, Pete's incredible. This is the guy who should run for president. Like, it was so unbelievably supportive of Pete. So that can't exist if the audience is against the things that Pete stands for. Yeah. And then you might have the two percent of conservatives who just don't want a gay man opening in his mouth ever. You know what I'm saying? Right. Right. So they're just appalled at seeing a gay man on a platform that they might appreciate. And then there's people who have reasonable criticisms too. Like there are, you know, people was, you know, like, hey, listen, he was in office during Biden

and he didn't say anything about Biden being senile. Like, he was there. He was working for him. You know, like so there. All of those guys will say that they just put their head down and they were doing the work. They weren't paying attention. Of course. But this is real, this is reasonable criticism. Like, he wasn't able to get the charging stations in. He did only a few of them. It's like that was the job. So I think there are people who have reasonable criticism that he's going to have to answer for.

Absolutely. At the end of the day, anybody who was part of that administration is going to have to either say they were complicit in the cover up or I was putting him a head down and doing the work, whatever bullshit that is. I said that to him today.

Why does everybody all of a sudden have the courage to speak truth to power? Like all of these things that people were saying years ago, it's just like now everybody wants to say now, Barack Obama, Oh, yeah, Democrats need to have more courage. Oh, yeah, Biden was too old. We should have ran another candidate.

Duh. You know? But just admit you fucked up. You just. That's it. And then you move on. And move on. Move on.

With good attention. Move on. Move on. Move on. Move on. Move on the way this tech CEO moved on. Did you see this shit, man? This is why a motherfucker shouldn't cheat, bro.

Yeah. Did you, like, what's his name again? Byron? Yeah. What's his name? Andy Byron. Andy Byron. Andy Byron has resigned following Coldplay concert.

That's crazy. Incident. Why didn't resign? Well, the reason he got to resign, I think, is because he didn't just cheat. He cheated with the HR director. Yeah. So you got to resign because there's nobody to write him up? Yeah.

You can't be somebody's superior and having a fair way. I can't. I understand the logic, but we got to stop acting like people don't like each other in the workplace. Yeah, but her of all people. miss HR, all you have to do is just disclose that to HR that, hey, we're dating now and then you can see the person. How do we know, but how do we know he wasn't being taken advantage of by the HR League? How he was?

He said, I'm going to write you up if you don't date me. You think he wanted to go to Coldplay? You think it was the astronomer guys, the CEO of the Astronomers who wanted to watch the Coldplay concert? He begrudgingly went to the Coldplay concert with this cheating-ass wife or cheating-ass side-cha. They both were cheating, though, because they both were married. He's not really cheating, though. He's got to do what the HR director says.

Like, that's her job. There's no... Yeah, but the HR's department is to be someone who looks over the boss. The boss can't do whatever they want to do. So technically, it's on her. There's no way... It is. She's...

There's significant others didn't know about this. What? Bro, a cold play concert, bro. That's ridiculous. You hugged up at a cold play concert? Yeah, you've been saying. You saw the other lady from the job that knew them and knew that they were doing something wrong, so this was just a group out of it.

Huh? Say that again? They tried to feel like it was a group. group out of it. That's what they say. It was another lady that works with them that was right next to him. She didn't know about their relationship. Oh yeah. She knew. Of course. She was on camera. She was like, she was like, like, she knew

it was. I guarantee you the significant others is new. The reason he ducked is because he didn't want to bring bad, he didn't want to bring negative attention to the company. That wasn't a, oh shit, let me get out the way. So my wife don't see me. That's a, oh shit, let me get out the way because I know the backlash that's going to come from me being with my HR lady.

The very next day, his wife took off her surname from her. Yeah, because she's humiliated. She's humiliated in front of the entire world. But she probably knew it was already going down. I agree with Charlotte on that. They might have been already in divorce proceedings. Come on, man.

Bro, you don't go to a concert. No, you don't go to a concert with your side piece. You don't cheat that loose. And we hugged up with her with a whole group of people. You said that the, I didn't even know that. You said that the employee next to them new. You think that all of those people know but the wife don't know? The woman's husband don't know?

Wife don't know. Wife bad, too. You see that's what the internet was saying. They're like, why would you cheat on her with this? The original wife? Look at the original wife. Time. By the way, the HR lady wasn't young.

No, and she's married too. That's what I'm saying. She was older. She had great hands. Like, that was kind of like commendable. Again, what I'm trying to tell you is like seeing somebody cheat with somebody they age? You're at the mercy of HR in a lot of these companies, right? So he can't really do anything.

In a lot of ways you can say that she raped him. Is this the wife? What? Because if he doesn't do what she says, she could write him up, she could get him fired. You could fuck the whole company up. Exactly. So the power that she has over him is like unbelievable. I don't know.

Who's the wife? Which one is the wife? Go to his wife. CEO of Astronomer, wife. I don't condone cheating in any way, shape, or form. But black men don't cheat. And this is a white man. So this has nothing to do with me.

That guy's not white, dude. What is he? I don't know. He's not white. This has nothing to do with me. All I'm simply saying is you're not taking your side piece. out in public like that and being all hung up with her, bro. I've seen this before.

This is the side piece. This is the wife, Schultz. Wife ain't bad. No, there's a different way. That's the wife, bro. Every picture is her. Oh, no, there was some other picture where she was looking crazy good. I'll be honest with you, man.

But I don't think white American, is he American? I don't think white American's sheet. I think that's really a fact. I don't think it's cheating if she's under a five. Hmm. Yeah. Solomon, I've been waiting for somebody to make this argument. That's genius.

It's not cheat. Like, I cheat on you with a five. That's a hand job. It's me jerking off. Looking up with a five is no different than getting a rubbing tug. That's a rubbing tug. How about both of you? I call your wives an accident.

Yeah, my wife's busy, man. We got mothers, bro. They got kids raised. No, listen, I don't agree with anything that this day. guy did. I'm just simply saying, it's not like he was out here winning. It's like, like, go back and look at that woman. God bless you're not a terrible looking woman. She just looked like she's, you know, been around a little bit. Like, I've been around for a while, you know what I mean? You don't think so? I mean, I know. I agree with you, but also, just a married lady, so I am

Bro, she looks weathered. Look at her, man. She looks weathered, bro. She don't look weathered to you, brus? She does. She looks weathered, man. You know what I mean?

Like, she looked like she's the wife that's been getting cheated on forever. So in a lot of ways, it's like, yo, this guy was bringing her joy that she probably hasn't experienced in a while. And do you think her husband really cares? Wait, which husband? The HR?

Just one, the side chick. I think they're in love, man. He's holding her from behind. They're watching Coldplay. They got something. Yeah, they are together, bro. They're together, man. Because there's nothing about her that makes me say risk at all.

Like, come on, guys. Like, I'm being very superficial here. Yeah. I am. I know I'm being very shallow right now. No, he's hugged up in public. Like, if he was just getting ahead at the office, that's a completely different situation. And you could probably, you know, you could go down a few points.

I don't think this shit might be a social. experiment. In terms of? Just in general. I think sometimes, man, you see certain things out there in the public and they distract us for whatever reason. Like, there's something, I never even heard at a company of scrotomer and tell this, you know what I mean? And then now I can't stop seeing the company astronomer everywhere. But what does it do? Look it up. I think they bought this, they're trying to sell or something like that, if I'm not mistaken. I saw some shit about a scrotomer, a scroner. But we don't even know what the company does. We have no idea. This, something about this don't feel right. Yeah. All the times, Coldplay,

fucking performing. Have they been kissed hands before? How do you think this was set up on purpose? Have there ever been any? And by the way, yeah. That would be genius if it was the ex. If it was the wife. That would be genius if it was the wife. She needs a reason to divorce. She works something out with the cold play team. She knows that her husband is going because she's in his email and he gets a confirmation to the tickets and the other names that are on it. She finds a connection to the cold play team. Make sure that they get on the JumboTron. It gets.

outed, she is justification for divorce, she gets a huge settlement, she's good, husband is humiliated, that's genius. That could be one angle, R could be somebody who doesn't like the company astronomer, or does like it. Poor participant. Yes, and wants to out him is the CEO. That's amazing.

That is amazing. Is the HR director stepping down to? Of course not. Who going to write her up? She's the HR director. What does that shit? Astronomer empowers data teams to bring mission critical software analytics and AI to life. We were at a company behind Astro, the industry leading data, what?

The industry leading data, what, Alex? Oh, the industry leading data orchestration and observability platform powered by Apache Airflow. Astro accelerates building reliable data products that unlock insights, unleash AI value, and power data-driven applications. I don't know what the fuck this company does. Fuck that. I have no idea, but I know I never heard of a scrotoma until now. I mentioned they've been searched so much over the past week.

By the way, when I first heard about this, I thought he was an actual fucking escrowmer. That's what I thought. I don't see. I swear to God, I thought the same thing. Yo, it's so stupid. That's not stupid. I thought he was a fucking actual astronomer. Damn shame, bro.

Pay the WMBA players what they deserve, man. Don't cheat. Pay the WNBA players what they deserve, Charlotte. Why are you not doing that? So why are you not paying the WNBA players what they've done? Those T-shirts were interesting. Tell me. Because it said, pay us what you owe us.

Right? That's what it said, right? What did they say? What did the shirt say exactly? Well, they are paying them what they own. They own their salary and they're paying that. This is too much. Right?

What did you say? Pay us what you owe us. Pay us what you owe us. They're not owed anything. You know, this is the argument that people have been making. Maybe there's something I don't understand about it. But like, if the league is losing money, they're getting overpaid. If you pay them what they owe you, you're going to pay the league.

Well, the league is losing money on purpose. Like, like the WNBA is what you call a lost leader. Like, right? So I think that, you know, they make investments into the WNBA because they know eventually it'll make money. It'll make money. And it'll be worth it. Like Uber or any of these other. Uber, SpaceX.

Fuck, it's plenty of cars. Do you Google. There's plenty of companies that haven't made. made no money. I was reading something another day. Who the fuck just started getting a profit over the last few years? It was one of these major companies. It might have been fucking Uber. Uber. Yeah.

It was Uber, right? It just got the black. It just got the black in like in 2023 or some shit like that. You know, so this is what you call a lost leader. I do, this is the argument that I do agree with the women. The women don't want to make as much as the men because that's what they just couldn't.

But they do want to, but they know that's not realistic. What they want, is a higher percentage of all basketball revenue made. Like in the NBA, the guys get like... 49 to 51%. Yeah, 49 to 51% of all revenue made. How long has the WMBA been around? Shit, since like 96?

97. Okay, so almost 30 years is that? Yeah. And then, so then I think we got to look at, like, the NBA contract and, like, what was the NBA making 30 years in? It's a good point. What was the NBA making 30 years?

And the NBA didn't have the luxury of another league. Subsidizing it all the whole time. But like, let's just look at what percentage that players were getting, you know, 30 years in. The growth, listen, the growth is incredible. They're about to do a $2.2 billion deal. What I also find interesting is there are teams that are profitable. Now, I was thinking about this, right?

The league as a whole isn't profitable yet, but there's teams that are profitable. If you're on a profitable team, your salaries shouldn't be dictated based on what everybody else in the league is making. that on a profitable team that team should pay you more but that puts that team at a clear advantage

against the other teams in terms of allocating players well get profitable motherfuckers be the New York Liberty be the Las Vegas Aces you know what I mean? But the whole idea is that there's no way that these like small market teams

can compete with the big market teams Indiana Feeba could right now Caitlin Clark yeah yeah no you're right Boston you're right in a matter of in about a year the Indiana Fiva might be

They might be the most valued team. I know the Liberty is right now. And a year or two, Indiana people going to be the most valuable team in the league. I mean, whatever team Caitlin Clark is on is the most valuable team. That's what I'm saying? So, he's the entire WMBA.

So 30 years in, the NBA total revenue was 60 million per year, and the player salaries averaged 130 to 300K. So what percentage of that was? 130 to 300K, 30 years in? What year was it? 1976.

Oh, okay. All right. But like, yeah, so I think we just need to understand, like, and I just ask what percentage of revenue went to the players 30 years in. But yeah, look, it's tricky. It's, you know, they want to get paid more. I totally understand it. But maybe they don't understand the economics.

That's what I'm saying? It's not tricky as business. You know what I'm saying? That's really all it is. And, you know, it's hard to have conversations. 35 to 40%. 35 to 40%? And that's what they want.

That's what they're actually asking for. Like, you know, I think people get to. get fucked up because they're like, you're not supposed to be making as much as LeBron change. You're not supposed to be making as much as fucking shy. What they're asking for is simply a larger percentage of the revenue. And what the league is probably saying is, guys, in order to get people into the stands, we have to market this thing.

And if we don't market it, nobody's going to watch. So let us spend money on marketing. And then future players will be able to make money like the guys made. And they were 50 million, they lost $50 million last year. If I'm the NBA, I wonder about this, too. Yeah. I know we're making more money. We got this big television deal coming.

$2.2.2 billion, I think it is. Don't I want to recoup? If I'm the NBA? Of course. And they deserve to. They invested the money. Yeah. After I recoup, then you get some money.

Yeah. I mean, that's what I would think, right? I mean, that's how any business should function. Otherwise, why would we invest in business? That's what I would think. You know what I mean? That's what I would think. But I don't think that, like, when you're an employee of a company,

I don't think employees of companies, and it's not just WMBA players, but like, I don't think employees of a company, but I don't think employees of a companies look at if the company is making money or not and how much they're making. I don't think employees of companies that are losing money think that they should make less because the company is losing money. You know what I mean? Like there are plenty of like TV shows that lose money and the employees of those TV shows aren't going, I should make less money because we're losing money.

Well shit CEOs don't feel like that. CEOs will still give each other motherfucking bonuses regardless of what the stocks are doing, regardless if the company's losing money. It's a perfect example, right? So it's like everybody that works for a company believes that they deserve to get paid. When the company starts making money, they're like, I should make more.

When the company starts losing money, they never go, I should make less. Yeah. So I don't begrudge companies that are often like, hold on, hold on, wait, where was the conversation when we were losing $50 million a year about you guys taking less money? The second we start to make money,

we get some attention, y'all want to talk about how much more you should make. What about all those years that I was just paying for this and losing money? That's so crazy. That's reasonable. Nobody ever has that conversation. Like the CEO can never sit you down and be like, look, man, this is what you're making, right?

This is what you're paying you. This is what we're paying you. This shit ain't at enough. You know what I mean? So I need to cut your salary in the media. Nobody wants to take the salary cut. Nobody wants to take less money. But it makes sense for the CEO to do that because the CEO and the company are losing money.

Yeah. You know what I mean? But it's also up to the CEO too because some shit has to. to, if you, you know, guarantee somebody a contract, you got to honor that contract. Now, you might can go to somebody and ask to, you know, restructure the contract for the, restructure the contract for the company. But why did the talent got to do that? Bro, here's the other thing.

It's like, there's nothing wrong with asking for more money. Like, everybody should ask for a raise. So if the girls want to ask for a raise, ask for a raise. It's got to make sense. I think what happens is people might take exception with how they frame it as if there's some sort of sexism baked in or as if they're not getting what they deserve. But like, if you just want to make more, your entire hours will go to your boss and ask to make more? What's wrong with that? You might get told no, but like, we shouldn't be telling people

they shouldn't be able to ask for more money. Once they start acting like it's a outside cause or they start evoking sexism, like I think the women's soccer team like evoked sexism in the deal, then it gets annoying because it's like, guys, what are we talking about here? We live in the most literal, non-literal world. So you can wear a t-shirt that says, pay us what you owe us, and everybody will look at that and be like, but they don't owe you any. You know what I'm saying? Actually, you're in the red.

Yeah, yeah. If they pay you what they owe you, it would be nothing. Like, oh, I saw that. Oh, man, I saw that shit. Somebody said, like, the WM, if the NBA, damn, I had this shit in my phone. Hold on. If the NBA actually went to the players, you just want to touch me, bro.

If the NBA went to the players and, damn, I just saw this. Oh, yeah. In 2025, the WNBA reported a $40 million deficit. If every player were responsible for covering this loss equally, each would owe approximately $27,000. $27778. Yeah. If, yeah, if every player were responsible for covering the loss equally, that's crazy. But this is where the girls need to understand it's more than messaging.

Like, okay, you have your message, and then what's your justification for wanting more money? And you have leverage. Like, people are watching and people are interested, so now is the time to ask for more for sure. But like, what's the justification? And right now, none of us can say the justification. Oh, I can say, no, the justification is that the league is more popular than this ever been. And there's a $2.2 billion television deal coming. So then...

That's the justification. So then get that money when the deal comes in. Yeah. I mean, what they want, they literally are just seeking a greater share of the league's revenue. Revenue. Yeah.

That's it. Like, you know, as the league grows in popularity, I don't have a problem with that. Merchandise, you know, ticket sales. I don't have a problem with that. They only make like 9.9% of that shit, that's it. Like, increase it.

That's all they're asking for. Increase it. And technically they are making more because as the league gets more popular, they're getting more endorsement deals. And so more WNBA players are making more money. Oh, let's be clear. The WNBA is a short bet.

It is a short bet as far as a company that's going to continue to grow and make money and be profitable at some point. It's, I mean, you got, or you already got Caitlin. She's only in her second year. You see what she's doing. You see how popular Asia Wilson is getting.

You see what Angel Reese is doing. Juju's going to heal up and be there in a second. Page Buckets is out there. There's a real interest in the WNBA. There's real eyeballs on the WNBA. There's real money coming into the WNBA. It's only a matter of time. But to the point we all just made...

I'm trying to see some signature dildos. It's a very young lead. It's a very young lead. It's a very young lead. You get the signature. straps. You don't want a signature, you don't want a page bucket strap. As crazy as that sounds, that's not like the worst idea. It's a fantastic idea. You got to think outside the box. What about the other way? Say again? When you want like the pocket pussy or something like that?

No, I want the page buckets strap. Yeah. Because if you're a stud, don't you want to strap your favorite player in the WMBA? I want to be strapped up. It's kind of dope. It is dope. It can be the colors of the team they play for with their number on it. Facts. You know what I'm saying? And whatever their number is, that's how many speeds it is. But that's assuming all of them are lesbian. All lesbians.

Not just for everybody. Just get the lesbian one. Yeah. Not everybody gets a sneaker in the NBA. Yeah. But the top lesbians in the WMBA. The top stud. Yeah, the top stud.

The top stud. That's kind of fire. Yo, tell me that's not fire. If you're a stud, you got a strap, get a signature strap. Be proud of it. I don't think that you should hide that part of you. I think we should celebrate that. I saw some video where a bunch of WNBA players got denied in the club.

I was crazy. I was crazy. But is it because security was patting them down. They felt the strap. Yeah. And they was like, show me what that is. And they were like, no, that's none of your business. Rightfully so.

Rightfully so. That's your private. I'll show you my motherfucking strap. Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? I saw one girl's playing with it on. That's what I did. She forgot to take off the strap.

And I was like, yo, the WNBA is must watch TV. I love the WMBA. If they come on, if they come out there with the strap. on, dude, under the shorts, the straps on hanging down below the short, put the short shorts on, just got the head hanging down. They should do that shit to be funny. Wouldn't you know, I was laughing, right? You saw when the, um, when the Indiana Fever had won like that mid-term, that mid-season

championship, I can't remember what it's called. Yeah. And they were all playing on live and Caitlin was bent over, but then, uh, Sid Colson came behind her. Yeah. Like, what the fuck did Sid Hed erwin? Yo, I was a strap. That's what I'm saying.

Like, she jumped like, oh, yeah. Hey, what's the wrong over there? What the fuck? Sid, unlock that. Yo, unhook that shit, Sid, come on. You can't be playing with that. That's dangerous. Oh, my God.

I think if men can play with it, the women should be able to play with it. I think that's just fair. Men can play with what? If we have one naturally strapped onto us. That's different, though. The scraps be cheating. Because them shit is always hard.

You know what I'm saying? They big as fuck. Yeah. You know what I mean? Our shit at least gets flaccid. Now, that's the type of scrap that nobody's made you. But it depends. Like, if you had a gay basketball player at a seven-footer with the, that has the twin

brother. Who? Now, what was his name? I think he played for like the Nets. Oh, I know you're talking about the one that A-Sap Rocky. Did that crazy as me? Yeah. Oh, what was his name, Mom?

I don't know. I can't remember his name, man. Yeah, the twin brother. You know what, though? How come nobody's made the strap on that is like a, that's like a mood ring? I'm serious So it's flaccid until you get excited

when you get excited when you get happy and that shit Like maybe it's like your body temperature calls it to pop pop That's fine Nike, come on

Stop playing What's up man Nike stop playing You have the signature strapped It's a mood ring That shit gets hard Go Reebok, that's how you come back

That's your new pump Remember how they used to have The pump in the sneakers Yeah the recock The recock. The recock pump You got a pump the fucking strap.

I think that's a real thing. Because Reebok needs it, bro. Yeah, Reebok hasn't ever seen. Reebok needs it. Everybody. Yo, every sneaker that we used to call skips is hitting. New Balance. Killing.

Yeah, that's true. A-6 killing. That's true. You know what I mean? That's true. Nike and Reebok is like, yeah, right now. Adidas has even fired. Adidas has been fired, but Adidas.

That's your fucking Farrell doing? Fire. Puma even got a couple times. Oh, Puma been cooking. Puma. What the fuck was that? I don't know. You talk about Brooke Lopez?

No. No, man. No, no, no, no. He has a twin brother Robin Loper. I know exactly what you're talking about. All you got to do is Google Gay Brooklyn Nets player, Alex. I don't know if he played for the Nets, but he did play for the Nets. He did play for the Nets. Due to AASAP Rocky meme. That's the one. Hold on gay. He's like, there's a girlfriend of mine. He stands up for everything he believes in as far as everybody being equal, color, homosexuality. Doesn't matter if you're gay, now, he just pointed at the guy, man, for no reason. Jason Collin. Collins. Cason and Jaron Collins, right?

Jason Collins, man. Both of them are gay? No, one of them is, which sucks for the other brother. Well, it could be worse. They could have been Siamese twins. She could have been way worse. Being the gay sign means twins? God, say him and share one butthole.

No! No! No! No means no! No. Oh my God, man. Salute to my guy, Ray J, man. I just got off the phone with Ray J. And we was laughing and joking about some shit.

But people think we hate each other. Who? Me and Ray J. Why? Because I gave him donkey in a day for this shit with sexy red. And, you know, Ray J didn't like that. And then, you know, Ray J. Be under Breakfast Club comments, talking shit.

And then it's just like, he'll call me like I called him just I called him today I was like what's up bro he was like so you do care he was like I just wanted to know you care Ray J's like top three funniest people in hip hop man listen it's easy up there bro there's two people

yeah that I want in half to do a curb your enthusiasm style show with but you don't even need it no more because We got the IRL shit in the screaming now. So there's two people I enjoy watching. Who? Ray J and Tyrese. Two of the most unintentionally funny humans you are ever going to meet.

Now, the difference between Ray J. and Tyrese, Tyrese is, he likes to laugh when he takes himself very serious. Yeah, I feel like Ray J's in on it. Ray J is so in on it. He knows he's doing. He's so in on it. He's smart, bro. Listen. That interview is Speedy with the glasses.

He knows exactly what he's doing. That's instructable, Speedy. Break them. Try to break them. Break them. Break them. I said to Ray. I said, Ray, man, I let Ray.

He goes, he goes, y'all's just too big now. You're just too big. And I don't like it. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, why? Why? I said, you should be happy every time you see Breakfast Club because you are very instrumental in the success of the breakfast club.

He goes, I know, man. I just wanted to know you care because I've been leaving comments and don't know why they say nothing. I love it. I love it. Thank you for the phone call. I know, I know Ray.

I know Ray J for like 25 years, bro. Wow. I met Ray in like 0203. Was he funny back then, too? Was he always? Yo, the first time I met Ray, he came to Hot 103.9 in Columbia, South Carolina. I took him to go buy weed.

Like, he's always been this person. Ray has never not been a ridiculous human being. He's actually, he's actually funnier than people even know. Like, Ray should do a one-man show or something. Remember when Tyson had that one-man show on Broadway? Like, Ray needs to do something like that. Like, Ray J is a hilarious individual who also understands the media. Honestly, he totally gets it.

That's a really fantastic idea, actually, because he's played a role in all these really really. transformative events for hip hop culture in America like him going through each one of the stories like on some Forrest Gump shit? Yes. Like him, the breakfast gump story, obviously with the Kim

Kardashian tape like him going through all these instrumental events to get us to where we are today. That'd be a great woman in show. I'm not even exaggerating when I say this. Ray J. have been responsible for some of the greatest cultural institutions we've ever seen. There's a... He set breakfast club off.

He set the Kardashian Dynasty off. There's a guy... Oh, my guy. I can't believe I'm blank in the name. Oh, my God. He's actually funny. He's a hip-hop artist. He also just had a show

with like a scripted show on Netflix. I'm pretty sure. Dave? No, no, no. Donald Glover? Oh, Vince Staples. Yeah, yeah.

He had a hot take about like... I remember. And that was phenomenal. He's right. He is right. I remember, look at that shit. I was like, oh, wow. He's right.

Like, I genuinely love Ray J. But he's a person that I'm going to always hold accountable. He's going to always hold me accountable. You might see us talking shit to each other in media. But trust me, it is always love. Because when I'm talking to him, you can't get mad at Ray J. Ray J. I can't get mad at Ray J. I can't get mad at me.

When I call him, he goes, well, well, well. He left a comment under Breakfast Club page talking shit. And I call you, he was like, well, well, well, you do care. Bro. It is funny how, like, things play out on social media. And people don't really know how behind the scenes, like, we'll know the people that everyone else thinks we're beefing with. And you're talking behind the scenes? Yes.

Like, I remember you hit me after Portnoy sent the tweet out this show. the text. I remember you hit me like, yo, what's going on with this with this Port-Doy thing? And I was like, bro, it's kind of like a crazy miscommunication. This is actually kind of my fault. And I- What happened? So I didn't know how to explain it in one tweet, right? But basically what happened is like he texts me like, this is like a few days or like a week ago about like some Mamdani stuff, right? And we're going over the mom-dani thing. And because he thought that I was like defending him. I said the, the socialist Democrats or the America First Party. I might even say, it here or something. I forgot exactly where it was. But I was like, they're the only part that seems America first, because they're actually trying to help the needs of Americans. I was basically trying to be like, yo, MAGA's not doing it for Americans.

They said they were going to do shit. Now they're in power. They're doing nothing that they said they would do. And the social, Democratic socialists are actually the ones trying to do help. You might disagree with the policies, but they're actually doing it. So he hits me up. He's like, yo, what are you talking about that dad? Like, I don't think that these policies are going to work. I'm against these policies, blah, blah. And then I was like, yeah, I understand what you're saying, but they are trying to meet the demands of the people. And we have this great nuanced conversation about it, and then it goes.

And I go back on Twitter a few hours later, and I see this tweet where he has this Jamie Diamond quote about like, you know, my Democrat friends are stupid. Their hearts are in the right place, but they always have these dumb ideas. And he quotes a he goes, I think that he's referring to Andrew Schultz's comments on Mbondani. So I'm like, the fuck is going on. You just threw me under the bus. We had this great conversation. I thought, like, why are you going to taking this shit out on Twitter? Right.

What I don't realize is he tweeted that before we talked. Oh. So I'm tight. So somebody misconstrued it because they heard what you said and then saw our old post to his and reposted it. No, I saw his post two hours later on Twitter, but I thought he posted it after we talked. So I'm like, I'm like, why would you do this? We just had a great conversation. So then Sager is interviewing me on breaking points and he asks about Dave's Mandani thoughts.

So I'm a little salty. I'm like, just got threw me under the bus, even though he did it. So I'm salty and I just go, I go, man, Day don't even care about that shit. He just cares about the fact that Mondani said globalized Intifada and he just cares about Israel. Why is he making this whole shit? I'm being like reductive and dismissive and bringing up points that he did not bring up in our conversation at all because I'm annoyed because I thought he threw me under the bus. So then that comes out. And then Dave screenshots our combo, which he shouldn't do.

You should never screenshot. I don't like that. I don't ever like that. That shit is so lame. It is fucked up. should not do it. But I understand where he's coming from where it's just like, yo, you said I'm saying these things. This was our combo. I didn't say those things at all. So both of y'all just missing each other. Exactly. So I hit him up. I'm like,

why the fuck you share a private combo? He's like, why are you saying things I didn't say? And I'm like, why'd you post the fucking Jamie Diamond thing credit to me? He goes, I post that before we tweet, we talked. I go, I go, well, that's my bad. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how to explain that whole thing on Twitter. So I'm just watching millions of The New York Post is reaching out, all these different people reaching out. And I'm like, I don't know how to comment on this because I don't know how to tell you. It's a complete miscommunication. Oh, don't get it fucked up, too.

There was people that was ready for y'all to go to war because they was like, they can take each other out. Like, let Dave throw a nuke. Andrew throw a nuke. We get rid of both of them. I'm telling you that's what it was. I said Dave, I was like, listen, this is my bad. It's, you know, miscommunication here. Like, I don't think you should share the private text.

So just text me something right now, like the Yankees are your favorite team, and I'll post that, and then we'll be good. And he's like, yeah, it's not happening. And then we're, it is what it is. But that's what you got to do. Pick up the phone. Listen, I gave Ray J. Donkey here today for some shit a couple weeks ago when him and sexy red had their little back and forth, whatever, whatever.

He immediately hits me, right? I should have hit him when I saw the Jamie Diamond shit. Yes. But that's why I take accountability for it. It's like, yeah, it's on me. And by the way, I should have hit Ray J. You know what I mean? And I know it's a weird thing, man, when you're in this space of media because you still

want to comment on everything that's going on. But if you actually have relationships with a person. You got to hit them up first. You got to, you know, and that's a lesson I keep learning the fucking hard way. And I thought that we had that conversation because we were talking. I was happy about that because I think there's nothing cornyer than like when you actually know somebody. Yes.

And you can actually reach out and you choose not to. Yes. Because to me is proof that, like, you don't actually want to know what they thought. You don't actually want to know their justification. You're just trying to get some views off that shit. Yes. So, like, I was just, I think that's the corniest fucking shit. Listen, the funny shit about the Ray J. shit, when he called me after the darky of day shit, he just was like, you're a horrible person and I'm never going to let you forget that.

He was like, I don't care how much money you've made. I don't care how much therapy you have done. How many crystals you won't. I'm not even joking. He was like, you are a horrible person, and I will not let you forget that. You cannot just run from the people you've hurt, shall be. I'm like, yo, what the fuck are you even talking about? He's a very terrified version of race.

Then he was like poetic. Yo, I'm not going to- Is he saying this playfully or he's serious? Oh, no, he was serious. I'm like, who, who, Ray? Who have I hurt? He named two people. I was like, one of these people you're lying about, and I've already apologized to this person.

And you know what, it was his sister, Brandy, and the other person, and the other person I don't want to, it was Amber Rose, right? I'm like, I've seen Amber a million times. I didn't know me and Amber had an issue. Like, Amber talks to you behind the scenes. Amber talks to envy behind the scenes. I didn't know there was an issue. And then he put me on the phone with Amber,

and it wasn't really an issue. But Amber just explained to me about back in the day when I, like, I used to do the whole Hall of Fame. Son. And I put her in the whole Hall of Fame. But what I was trying to explain to her was... What I was trying to... Listen.

Some of y'all new listeners, let me tell you something. Y'all don't even know what it was like back in the day. You don't even know. Honestly, the reason they started silencing free speech is because of him. What I was trying to explain to her, though, well, that was the term of endearment. Like, yo, I was like, you... Shut up.

No. I was no. Prop. for being one of the ones that made it. But listen, Amber never told me that bothered her. Yeah. You know? And hasn't she been on the show since?

A million times. I've seen Amber a million times talked to her. We've done TV together. All types of, we've done so much. I don't know why this shit made me think of it, bro. We've done so much stuff together. Like, you know what I mean? And listen.

And then, you know, me and Amber started. talking out to Amber, if I, I, like, whatever, but I did apologize to Amber over the phone. And I said, you know, when you come to Breakfast Club, I'm going to apologize to you publicly, right? I have no problem doing that. And so Rayche goes, nah, fuck that, right? If you won't accept my apology from Section Red, well, I'm not letting you just apologize to Amber Rose like that. He don't mean it. He don't mean it.

He don't mean it. And I'm on the phone on your race. Shut the fuck up. He's like, you shut the fuck up. Like, I love Ray. I'm not even joking. I love William Ray Norwood, Jr. I really do.

Some people are so entertaining and funny. It's hard to be upset at them. It's hard to be upset at them, man. And Ray know what he's doing. And I'm going to tell you all something else. Ray is a phenomenal businessman. Scootie bikes. Raycon.

Raycon. Now he's got his own network tronics. Like, Ray J has made a lot of money. money. Ray J has sold a lot of companies. Like, like, I'm talking about real money. I ain't talking about no, you know, a couple dollars. I'm talking about he sold companies for like hundreds of millions of dollars. Of course, he got partners and stuff, but he makes a lot of money. Yeah, yeah. And we had a conversation about that just like, you know, years ago. He was just like, you know, he really want people to start taking him serious as a businessman. And I was like,

well, you got to start carrying yourself like a businessman. But it's just hard when you were you. Same with me. It's hard when I am me. Who cares if people take you seriously? Like the numbers are going to decide. The numbers are going to decide, man. Let them, let them underestimate you and then clobber them over the head and the deals. I don't even want you to know. To be totally honest, would you?

That's, to be honest, that's the... I'll end with this, and I'll end this conversation with this. That's what Ray said to me. Because Ray said, Shalamein, the God, the personality is one thing. Shalamane, the God, the businessman is another. Just like Ray J., the person. personality is one thing. And Ray J.

The businessman is another. But they blend into one another. And we can't help that. We're media personalities. Show us what we're supposed to do. You're right. What are we supposed to do? All right. Before we go to this, I just have to say, I don't know why this reminded me of it. But you were saying the whole Hall of Fame was just kind of like funny. It was just like an honest moment. And reminded me of this Duval post that he posts on Instagram very recently. I will read it.

Scarlett Johansson is a beautiful white woman to me. And her tits on Jurassic Park. is keeping me engaged and I'm not even a tits guy, but hers still perfectly as she shoots at the fish dinosaur. Did you see what I left? Did you see the post? Did you see the comment I left on this? No, what you said. I saw that this morning.

Clay said, take this down. All right, Pete, man. Word. That's right. Clay said, take this down, bro. That shit was so beautiful. Like the way that he explained, like he got to do a whole paragraph explaining his attraction to one of the most beautiful white women on the planet. He goes, she is beautiful to me.

The funny thing is Duvall said, show me the text of him saying it. Yeah, I love it. I can pull up a million texts of Clay saying, tell Duval to take that down. I love it. This is the funny shit about Duval. Duval will be waking up in the morning high. Yo. It's like, yo, stop putting your inside thoughts on social.

The caption is worse than the tweet. That's what he said. What's the cap? She's so raw, and I don't care if Dr. Umar see this either. Somebody put me in. Somebody put me down with her. Just find out she was married. Never mind unless she cheats.

What the fuck, Duvall. No, Duvall, leave that happy union alone. Colin, he means no disrespect, Colin. He means no disrespect. Okay, Scarlett, he means no disrespect. Now, this shit was great. Duvall described Scarlett Johansson's tits the way he hundred Biden describes crack bro he did man he said scholar johansson is a beautiful white woman to me

and her tits on Jurassic world is keeping me engaged and i'm not even a tipped guy but her still perfectly as she shoots it to fish dinosaur i don't know what the fuck he's talking about i haven't seen the new Jurassic Park the base you want to see a little bit no it don't make me want to notice her that's part of seeing it oh okay yeah yeah moving new ball is it nice you guys you know yeah as she shoots you It's at the fish dinosaur. All right, let's pay some bills. Charge your announcements, what you got, has he?

Yo, very excited to say this. So this weekend is the inaugural Hampton's paddle classic. We're doing a charity tournament, a paddle. You know how obsessed I am with paddle out in East Hampton at the Hampton Racket Club, and all the proceeds go to this amazing fertility charity. And it's called Baby Quest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're actually doing something for the community?

Yeah, yeah. That's what we're supposed to do. That's what you're supposed to do. But a lot of people don't. They just get on podcasts and fucking talk shit. They talk, but they don't actually. They don't know fucking action. I love this.

You know I love this. And this is a specific, like, we were very specific with the charities that we chose. Like, I don't want to fall into one of these charities where, like, you give them the money and the 90% goes to marketing. Like, you've heard of these traps with charities. Like, this is, all the money is going to helping people have babies. They're struggling. They've been struggling. for years. So it's an amazing charity. I want you to go check it out. And yeah, I'm just really stoked

with it. We got some great sponsors involved, longevity health, Paul Streets, Love Every Therobody, Huckberry, Nannett, Cotery, Hex Glad, longevity health. And yeah, so like kids are free if you want to come. The teams are already, people already bought their team selections and that kind of stuff. And we got some great raffles. But if you want to donate, we'll put a link in there as well, even if you can't be there. But it's per great cause in there. are people that, you know, struggling to get pregnant. Not everybody is in a privileged situation like my wife and I was where you could pay for that.

It's incredibly expensive. So what this does is actually allows those people who want to bring life into the world and people desperately want to be parents. It gives them that opportunity because of situations they can't control. So I think it's awesome. I'm really excited. I want to continue doing these charity tournaments like around the world. Like ideal version would be I go back on tour and then like I have a show on Saturday and then Sunday

is like the charity tournament and we could just, you know, do it nonstop and give people the opportunity to create some life. The fact you're doing it in the Hamptons. Kind of cool. Yes. And that's what the money is. Oh, God, that's why I'm saying these donations better be legit. Yes, go lean on them and give it to the people who actually actually need it.

That's what you're supposed to do. So I'm excited. I love it. I love it. I think that, you know, we really got to depend on each other. You know, I'm an ambassador for you. for the Food Bank in New York City. I love that you actually at the Food Bank.

That's the best thing. You know, first of all, that's the best thing because you actually are connecting with people. You know, you can give money, which I do, right? You could also just talk about it on a podcast and not doing anything. Exactly, but I like it. I like actually being there with people

and talking to them and, you know, seeing what's going on in their world, seeing what makes them tick, seeing what they actually give a fuck about, you know? So, yeah, I was at the Food Bank. We was in the Bronx last week. What's the name of the projects? Yes, we were at

the Bronx River Cornerstone Community Center. That's what we were. The Bronx River Cornerstone Community Center, man. And it was just an amazing event. You know, the kids were out there with their parents. You know, it's summertime. You know, people need something to do so they're at this camp. And, you know, the Food Bank was out there doing what they do.

Food Bank is an amazing program. And the one thing I realized, when you talk about these federal cuts that are being made, those are the programs that are impacted by federal cuts like that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So when you see the federal government cutting the money for programs like the food bank, we really should step up and donate money to organizations, you know, like the food bank, because they're actually out there doing the work.

Like, they're actually out there making sure, you know, that people are motherfucking eating. So go to foodbank, nyc.org if you want to make a donation to the food bank in New York City. And my other church announcement is I want to shout out Cheryl McKissack, Cheryl McKissack Daniel, Her new book, The Black Family, Who Built America, Two Centuries of Daring Pioneers. That's the, that's the, what do they call that? I mean, it's coming out in paperback, but that's just like the advanced copy that you just read. But, yes, go get that if you want to know about a really dope business, McKissick. McKissick and McKissick, a seven-generation black-owned construction company.

And, I mean, they have, you know, been responsible for some of the Dover's buildings. that you have seen in our country. So that will be out in August, but you can pre-order it now wherever you buy books. I think that there's, I think that like, sharing these stories is really important because I think it's important to talk about historical injustices.

It's not saying that we shouldn't also talk about it. But it's also important for people to hear about the success stories, the people that have had life experience just like them. Yes. And it's aspiring, right? because a lot of times you don't realize you can achieve something until someone just like you doesn't. Especially when the McKissicks were able to establish this construction company in the mid-1800s. What was happening, then?

Slavery reconstruction. Like these were like, it was a whole lot of shit. Okay? And they were able to establish this company in the mid-1800s and still be thriving all these years later, man. Rest and peace to Malcolm Jamal Warner. My God. Yeah. If you haven't heard, I don't know where you've been,

but Malcolm Jamal Warner died at age 54 after drowning in Costa Rica. He was swimming at Playa Grande de Cope. I can't pronounce that. Playa Grande is on the other side of Tamarindo. So Tamarindo is like one of the, the Nacoia Peninsula, I think it is. But it's like one of the, I've been to Playa Grande. I surf there as a kid. Like, there's a Las Tortugas Hotel is probably maybe where he stayed.

But like, this is really tragic. Tell me about these rip tides, man. A current pulling him in the deeper water. I'm going to tell you something because I've been caught in one. I remember that story. No, this is a different one. But that was also Costa Rica, but it was a different part. But so my bro got caught in one as well.

So, luckily we're on like surfboards and shit. But basically what happens in Costa Rica is the tidal change is like really severe. You know like when you go out to Rockaway or whatever, like high tide, the water comes up. And then low tide, it's like maybe 20 feet or 10 feet back, right? In Costa Rica, the tidal changes feel so extreme. We're talking about like 100 feet of beach goes away on a high tide. And there could be no waves during low tide and then high tide because so much water is coming in, there's like real proper awesome waves. So especially in this beach.

Like I remember being there when it was low tide and then no waves and then high tide like some serious shit. All that moving water can create these things called riptide. So where riptide is is like there's these waves crashing this way and somebody who knows a lot better of science and this will probably. Correct me, but I'm going to do my best. Waves are crashing. All that water that's coming in needs to funnel out in a direction, okay? Because you can't just have water coming in and then going straight back out. So what happens is waves will often break, and then sometimes they create these funnels or channels

for all that water to move back out. And they create these things called riptides, which are incredibly fast moving water straight out to sea. And you don't realize your continent because it doesn't feel fast. You're just trying to swim against it, and you realize that you're swimming the opposite direction that you're going, you're going the opposite direction you're swimming. What you're supposed to do when you're in a riptide is swim

exactly. You swim cross. So it's like, you're being pulled out to sea, you swim across, you're out of that riptide in 15 feet, 20 feet, and then you swim back in. But most people don't realize that. They're just getting pulled out to sea and they start to swim against it. They get exhausted and it's a scary fucking thing, man. Yeah, when I was young, I got caught in one. What happened? Luckily, I knew to go to swim.

Where were you at? In Rockway, because I grew up in Rockwood. He grew up in a beach community. I grew up in Far Rock. Yeah, as a beach community. He's a surfing beach community. So he learned about these things at a young age. But yeah, it's like a really, I don't think people realize how severe it can be and how quickly you can be in harm's way without anybody really realizing it. Because it's not like you're bobbing up and down in the water and the lifeguard sees you.

Yeah. It looks like you're kind of just swimming in the ocean like everyone else. And then you're so far out that people might not even. see you yeah man that's what they say happened in this situation they said that's horrible and I just saw this in the New York Post they said he was swimming with his eight year old daughter did she also pass no

because they said somebody on a surfboard a volunteer lifeguard let me see hold me we'll get this right yeah according to police officials surfers saw Warner and his daughter struggling in the water a surfer dove in and bought the child back to safety on his board

a volunteer lifeguard then pulled Warner and a second surfer back to the shore where he was giving CPR for 45 minutes per to report. Man, yo. The reason this shit hit so hard, man, is because when you think about just being a father and, you know, every day of our life, we just try to avoid bullshit, right? Like, we try to avoid fuck shit that we know may cause us, may cause our lives to be short.

You know, we take precautions in a number of different ways, right? Like, I mean, you know, you work out, you, you know, take your supplement, you don't do drugs, like you avoid certain areas, like all types of different things. You're just on family vacation with your wife and your daughter doing what we all do on family vacation. In the water, swimming, you know, with your baby. And then this happens. It really just had me really thinking about karma and what that is. I think that our idea of karma is all fucked up. How we say things like, you know, if you move with good intentions and you put good out in the world, good things will come back to you.

It's just like, death is just as much a part of life. No, no, death isn't the opposite of life. It's a part of life. It's the karma. I understand karma in terms of like you're living in your karma, meaning you do bad things, you should be racked with guilt for doing those bad things. And therefore your life will be less enjoyable. But bad things happen to innocent people all the time.

Look at Gaza. You know what I mean? Like there's nothing that those children did that made them deserve this to happen to them. Yeah, war period. War period, right? So it's like that's the thing where karma feels really tricky and it's hard for people to reconcile because you're like, well, what the hell happened for this to happen like that? Like, what justifies this through karma?

What justifies the carnage that people experience of war all the time through a car? Like, I don't think that that's fair at all. I think karma is either what happens after this. Like, you know, what happens after all of this? Like, you know, what that afterlife may look like, our karma is how people talk about you after you're gone. So when you talk about a brother like Malcolm Jamal 1, I only met him twice. When we moved into our new studio, the Breakfast Club studio, back in January of 2023,

Malcolm Jamal Warner was literally the first guest in our new studio. If you want to do Breakfast Club trivia, our first guest ever on the Breakfast Club was Ray J. The first guest that started off this new era was Malcolm Jamal Warner. And when you meet him and you listen to him talk, two things stand out. Intentional. He's intentional about how he carries himself, how he shows up in the world. and he was very intentional about his art. You know, he did poetry as well.

He went a Grammy, you know, for his spoken words. So he was very intentional about his art. And there, I know when I go, there's going to be plenty of people that got shit to say about me, right? But I've never heard anybody say anything bad about Malcolm Jamal Warner. Yeah. Ever. Like, literally, ever. I'm talking about, like, you know, you talk to the PAs that used to work with him on all of these different shows, you know.

interns, those are the people I like to hear from. And all of these people are like, yo, he was the most pleasant person. But you could tell that when you met him. You could tell he was just an very intentional person. And then he came to the Breakfast Club again last year because he launched a podcast called Nah, and it was an acronym for not all hood.

Because he wanted to show that, you know, black people weren't just all hood, right? And so he was there with his co-hosts of the podcast, and we had a great conversation. We had a great conversation then. And yeah, man, I didn't, like I said, I didn't know him personally, but I just knew that he was a very intentional human who went out of his way to put good things in the world. And I think the karma for that is the way people talk about you when you're gone. It's just, yeah, I don't think people, it's just unfortunate, you know.

Man, it hit like Kobe to me. And the reason it hit like Kobe to me, not because of who they were. Like, forget the status. Like, I'm talking about what they were doing. When I heard the news about Kobe, I was literally in Atlantic City at my daughter's cheerleading tournament. Just like Kobe was waking up on a Sunday morning to go take his daughter to her extracurricular activity, which was basketball. And they met their untimely demise. Just like, yo, you're just doing your regular everyday daddy duties and meet a tragic demise like that.

That's like, God. Damn. Bro, it's... God have mercy. It's scary, man. What? Like, yeah, the fragility of it. And it's not something that I understood until I had a kid.

I'll be honest with you. Really? Yeah, like, having a kid, you realize how little is in your control. Every time they get up and walk. Oh, yeah. Every time they put something in their mouth. Like, every time they're so little in your control. You know, you have a reasonable amount of control of things that

happened to you, but you look at this situation, it's like, there's no way that he could have known that. You don't see a Riptide, really. Like, there's just no way. So, but it really puts in perspective how little control you have. And like, it's, uh, it's no overdose on drugs. You didn't get shot. You know what I'm saying? Wasn't a car accident. You're out there to enjoy in nature. God bless, I'm so happy that his daughter, like, at reading that story, I'm so happy nothing, you know, happened to his daughter. But then that even makes you think, right? It's like, you know, there was another guy who got caught up in the Riptide. He lived. The daughter got saved, but he passed away.

Like, they pulled both of them out the water at the same time. The other surfer, I think it was in Malcolm, but he passed away. It's like, yo, when it's your time, it's your time, and there's nothing you can do about it, man. Like, absolutely, positively, nothing. When it is your time to go, it is your time. And the reason I keep stressing, like, you know, how tragic of an accident it was is because he wasn't doing anything that would cause. you to die. Like, if you used to hear somebody was drinking and driving and they were speeding, you know what I mean? Or somebody got hit by a drunk driver. It's just like, yo,

clearly, when is your time to go? It's your time to go, man. So, rest of peace, Malcolm Jamal Warner, that was heartbreaking. What did the coffee show mean for you growing up? Nothing. You didn't watch coffee show? No. I mean, I did watch it. It's, it's like, weird. I didn't, I know this sounds weird. Like, I don't think I watched a lot of, I don't think I got into like TV shows or sitcoms until like much later in like yeah yeah yeah yeah you know so like like I watch it I was aware of it but it wasn't one of these things that like uh curated my my weekend like I wasn't like uh you know on Fridays what was that thing it was like TGIF yeah like I didn't really follow like I would watch a saved by the bell or I'd watch a Beverly O's 9-2-0

a little bit but I wasn't one of these guys like religiously followed a storyline so it wasn't until I was older that I started getting into like a show. Like, I think I watched much more like MTV or BT. Like, I was just watching more music. That's why you had corn rolls, bro. Probably. Probably. I was into all that shit. My mom, because I grew up Jehovah Witness on Thursday nights we have to go to the Kingdom Hall. Me and my sister was putting that VHS tape in that VCR and recording Cosby Show in a different world. Wow. Hell, motherfucking, yeah. You know what I'm saying? There was a couple of shows that broke through like Martin, Jamie Fox. Oh, let's be close. clear about something. Yeah. Cosby Show didn't break through. Yeah. Cosby Show was the number one

television show in the world. I meant like broke through to like me. Oh, got you, got you, got you, got and for whatever reason I think it was, it could have been an age thing. Like, I might have been too young when Cosby Show first came. Yeah. I'm 41. Yeah, yeah, I was 47. I'm 47, so yeah. So I think that like, I think we were a little young for the Cosby Show Hagan. Yeah. So I think that might have been a part of it. Yeah. Like, I was aware of its significance. but it wasn't like you had to watch it in the same way that I think Martin was, like we were talking

about it the next day in school. Yeah, Martin was, oh, that's a good point. Martin was very culturally relevant at a time when cultural relevance really, really mattered. Like Cosby's show didn't start embracing hip hop until like Eric Alexander's character came and oh, what was the other queen's name?

Oh, I can't remember her name right now. It was Erica, it was Pam's. Eric Alexander used to play a character named Pam and it was Pam's friend. Why the fuck I can't remember right now? But they were like the 90s hip hop aesthetic to it that made you be like, oh. I remember watching what was the show that was based on them going to college? Different world.

I remember watching different worlds. Not so much Cosby show. Like, I can somewhat remember the last episode of Cosby. They were such a big deal. Like, I remember the whole family like, oh, we have to watch the last. Charmaine Brown. That was Pam's friend. Yes.

She was played by Karen Molina White. Yes. Yeah, but I get what you saying. Like, different world was also more cultural. Different world had Tupac on it. You know what I'm saying? Like, they were wearing the HBCU hoodies. And, like, they were dressing like how we were dressing.

Like, Cosby Show didn't start doing that until much later on, man. But, man, do you realize that there was an episode of the Cosby Show that had 65 million viewers? You know how famous you had to be in the 80s? and early 90s. This was a time when there was three channels, bro. But like people don't even understand. It's like 65 million viewers is different than getting 65 million views on a TikTok.

I think this is what people don't understand. It's like we see views. We see millions of views on like a Mr. Beast video. And we, you have to understand it's a little different than 65 million households turning on their TV and sitting down and watching a show with commercials. Not 65 million people looking at something for one minute. and then scrolling off.

Believe it or not, Mr. Bees is niche. I know it sounds crazy to say that. Yeah. Because he's got multi-millions of followers, hundreds of millions of followers, and hundreds of millions of views on videos, billions of views. Yeah.

He's niche. Malcolm Jamal Warner. He's universal. Universal. There was, like, to put things in perspective, right? The Marlon Wayne's, the Wayne's brother's show that Marlon and Sean did.

Yep. if you ask foreigners what their introduction to like American comedy was, they will tell you shows like Wayne's brothers and like Ray Romano show. Like some of these shows got syndicated to Europe and Asia. And that was their introduction to American comedy. And like I'll talk to people abroad and they'll be like, yeah, that's kind of like where I learned to understand English. And that was at this time where America was, you know, sending out our,

culture through television and there was only a handful of show like how many shows were big enough to even do that yes so like friends yes go out there maybe Seinfeld but also Seinfeld was so niche like Seinfeld was like New York and it was probably massive but it was still like New York white Jewish people whereas like Marlin and Sean were representing this different thing that the world was curious about hip hop music is coming around they're like oh what's going on with American black people this is interesting we don't have them over here yeah so yeah bro do you know how if it in I'm looking at it now. The second episode of the Cosby Show

was the highest rated ever with 60 million viewers. I mean, not the second episode. The season two premiere. It's insane. Which was titled First Day of School, which aired September 26, 1985. This means all of America, damn this.

60 million people. So think about this. You're a star immediately. No, no, you need to understand this. It's not 60 million people, Charlotte. It's 60 million households. God. Damn.

Right? Shit. I don't know. if they could calculate how many people are in the house watching it. But 60 million views is 60 million people swiping on their phone. You're right. 60 million households is potentially 180 million people. Yes, man.

Yes. Like, you got to understand the shit when like Johnny Carson was on and like I think he had an episode. It was like 50 million people watching. That's potentially 200 million, 50 million houses. There's 200 million people potentially. That's the whole country. Nobody will ever be that famous ever again.

Never. Never. Things are so... Maybe athletes. Yeah. Maybe athletes. But then again, it's like an athlete in a specific sport. What a basketball athlete is in America is not going to be the same in Asia.

It's not going to be the same in Europe. What a soccer star is in Europe is not going to be the same in America. That's true. Because it's not Ronaldo. It's the other one. Messi or Ronaldo. Messi or Ronaldo. And I know this is a crazy statement, but I mean this sincerely.

Messi and Ronaldo could walk around most cities in America. And they would be recognized. I agree. I agree. me wrong, but like, there are places where you could go and they can't, you can't go and they could. I agree. Like, yeah, I get what you're saying.

But there's places overseas, they can't step out the fucking hotel. Pretty much all over. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Speaking of late night. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about this Colbert drum. Stephen Colbert.

Do we have that up, Alex? Stephen Colbert. So, Colbert's the piece of Ozzy Alborne, too, man. Oh, yeah, RIP, man. RIP. The only difference between Ozzy Osborne and Pass, he was. and Malcolm passing. Ozzy was 76.

But he looked. He looked at the old... Yeah, it is weird, right? Like, you hear Ozzy Osbourne passing. You like... Oh, he was 100. That's what I'm saying? Yeah.

You're like, rest in peace. But... You live the life. You live the life. You live the life. You know, it's awesome. You're like, whoa, that was a shock. Ozzy been 76 since he had his own show on VH.

I was shocked he was only 76. Say what? I was shocked he was only 76. I still didn't hear you. I was shocked. I was shocked. What the fuck I was shocked. You treated me like...

I was shocked. Yeah. You treat me like they used to treat Ozzy on the show. We don't understand you, Ozzy. I was shocked he was only 76. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I remember.

But I'm on, I was terrible. The rest and peace, Ozbourne. Yes, the late show with Stephen Colbert is ending in 226. This is your South Carolina brethren, man. That's my guy, man. I've been on the late show probably, I think I might be on, I might have been on the late show more than any guest. I'm not even joking.

I think I came to your first appearance, if I'm not mistaken. I think so. I think you were with me. I think I was there. I've been on late show like seven, eight times. But CBS announced that the late show with Stephen Colbert will end in May 26 with the network calling Colbert irreplaceable in retiring the franchise. Colbert revealed the news, this audience, stating I found out just last night.

Next year will be our last season. The decision to end the show was described by CBS as a purely financial decision against a challenging backdrop in late night, unrelated to the show's performance, our content, or any other. what did they say? Any other outside force or something like that? Corbett expressed gratitude to CBS and the audience saying, I'm so grateful to the Tiffany Network for giving me this

chair and this beautiful theater to call home. What the fuck is the Tiffany Network? I guess it's like the umbrella that owns the show. I thought it was Paramount. I don't know. But it's probably within parents'am. Oh, got you. The show which Colbert took over in 2015 became known for leaning in the liberal politics during the Trump era and providing a platform for Democratic politicians. Now, nobody

thinks this was strictly, purely financial. And can you make the argument as to why it's not purely financial. Yes. I can make the argument to why it's not purely financial because Donald Trump has expressed his disdain for Stephen Colbert numerous times, just like he's expressed his disdain for Jimmy Kimmel. And Paramount is looking to be bought by Skydance. And in order for the Skydance merger to go through, it's like an $8 billion merger. In order for the merger to go through, Donald Trump has to approve the merger. The FCC has to approve it.

And I think they have this guy there, David Carr, who's basically Donald's guy. And Donald hasn't said, hey, you've got to fire him to do it. But I think he has to have a stable approval, too. Maybe he does. But the FCC has been holding it up. And they've been claiming they're holding it up because of this lawsuit. Right. And the lawsuit was over the 60 Minutes piece with Kamala.

And... Which CBS could have won. Which? But they didn't even try to fight it. Here's this $16 million. And Trump revealed today that it's $60 million. And they're giving him like $20 million in advertising or something, shit like that. So basically, I don't know how much we want to go over this, but the claim was that what they did edit a question, the way that Kamala answered a question.

Like she answered it differently on, I think it's like News Nation, and then she answered it differently on 60 Minutes, which is a CBS property, both CBS properties. Well, CBF did release the full transcript with him. So I think what they're claiming is that they edited her answer to make it more favorable. what CVS claims is it's the same answer to the question, just a different part of the answer. Yes. And what all people say that are looking at the case is that CBS would have won this case. Easily. Every legal scholar says it.

And most people that are in the news business would fight this tooth and nail because what you don't want to do is bend to an administration that is concerned about you criticizing them because it's important for the integrity of news networks to not bend. But in this certain situation, Paramount is putting their bottom line in front of the integrity of their business. They're going, we don't care about the integrity of our media business. We want to make this merger happen. We want this sale. So fuck integrity. Let's just settle this lawsuit so we could get this sale. Who's going to watch you if they know that you're a network that has no integrity?

Well, now they have new ownership. So maybe this is the new ownership signaling, hey, we're going to be a little bit more favorable. By the way, that meeting happened that week. who was it um was it larry ellison was it larry ellison's son david ellison his son yes skydance which wants to buy paramount and wants to make this merger happen so met with fccc met with the FCC the same week they got rid of cobert yeah so so so so there's a few things that are going on here which are interesting one cbs or paramount you saw that headline what is this dei is dead uh paramount david elison skydance promises fcc

see okay so so there's a few things going on here like uh one paramount or cbs did this thing that was dirty if you ask me talk this is dirty talk to me they release the financials of the show i don't think they've done that they leaked it that that's why we know that it was losing 50 million a year but everybody said that's not real they said he's losing he was losing money but 40 million dollars whatever i i have on i have on good authority that that's true but what it doesn't The point is it wasn't making money. And by all accounts, that's true. Now, there's different reasons as to why we can talk about that in a second.

But the reason they leaked it, in my opinion, is because they're trying to signal, hey, this has nothing to do with getting this deal made. This is just the fact that we have a show that's losing money and we want to get it off the books. But what it feels like the FCC is doing or the Trump administration is doing is leveraging that power that they have. to stop the deal from going through in order for them to make that change and signal to people, hey, if you're not favorable to us or kind to us, then we're going to stop deals

from going through. We call that authoritarian scraps. Absolutely, and it's a horrible precedent to set, especially for comedy. Like any comedians, myself included, that have rallied against censorship and comedy, you can't just let this go through. No.

Without criticism. Now, I will say, I don't know if I would tell the Democrats that put all their eggs in this basket, right, because the show was losing money, you're not going to convince Trump's base that there's something wrong here. But it's not just Colbert, though. No, I'm aware.

I'm just saying, like, the reason my point is, like, if the Colbert show was making money and they did it, throw all your eggs in this basket, perfect example of authoritarian behavior, they have an excuse that will satisfy Trump's base, which is the show's losing $50 million. It's bullshit that you can't cancel a show. I agree. And that's why I'm telling Democrats, like, I would be hesitant as to how much, you know, you want to rally on this specific cause because it's so easy. undercut to his banks.

Or what about PBS? What about NPR? No, no. What about suing the Wall Street Journal? Brother, brother, right. I'm not, I hope it doesn't come across like I'm saying that it's okay that those things are happening because I'm really against those things happening. What I'm telling, what I'm saying to Democrats is I would be wary of this as a tool

to convince disillusioned Trump voters to come back over because they can write it off quickly because the show is losing money. Now, here's the question. Like one, absolutely wrong if they're putting any pressure on a comedy show or any show in general that is being critical of them. Like, that's bullshit. Like, the essence of comedy is to rebel against institutions. Absolutely. Like, I think a lot of what was happening with comics in my zone, I guess you could say, is like we felt like there were institutions that were not allowing us to do comedy the way we wanted to do it.

And we rebelled against that. So the second it happens to the more left-leaning comedy, we can't just go, oh, nothing to see. here, we also got to go, no, that's fucked up. Like, the whole point of this is we make one of these institutions. And then if they don't let us, we make fun of them even more for not letting us. Like, that's, in essence, like, why free speech exists in America. Absolutely. This is important shit.

What I would hope more than anything, and I think this would be the most badass fucking thing to do is I wish that Colbert did exactly, does exactly what we did. We couldn't get on Comedy Central because they had these, like, purity rules for what is okay comedy to do. We went to the internet. We put out specials on the internet. We created podcasts on the internet. We showed that we had a real audience.

And now, look, like, I'm doing specials on Netflix. I'm doing movies. I'm doing all these things. We showed that people on that. One big difference, though. No, I agree the big difference is, like, there's a difference between institutional government power and just a comedy network that's saying.

Oh, no. I was just going to say, because you're 41 and he's 61. Oh, no, no. I think that's a good point. I guess what I'm saying is, like, it would be so badass for me if they're, we're doing this show and we're going to do it on YouTube and prove that we're the biggest fucking show and we're going to say whatever the fuck we want and then show that the people

actually do want this type of television and this these like jokes to be made and there is an audience for this like embrace the internet and the way that we embrace the internet and prove to the powers to be that they can't silence you I think we're going to get some of the best Colbert we've seen over the next 10 months he's been on fire all week John Stewart was on fire on Monday cooking. But you know, you bought up the ad revenue thing. Here's the thing. And this is why I say it has to be more than just financial, right? Um, ad sales for Colbert drops from around 121 million in 2018 to 70 million in 2024 and nearly 40% died. That's not just Colbert. It's late night TV, period. Well, I think it's it's, period. It's linear in

general. Linearer in general. And what we mean by linear is just like TV on TV. TV on TV. Colbert has great numbers digitally. Like if you watch the interviews, the- He's got great numbers for TV. Not anymore. 2.5 million viewers. He's the highest rate. Compared to the heyday of late night, not even close. And the heyday of late night is what these ad budgets are dependent on. That's ridiculous, though.

No, no, no. 40 million, 50 million people, you're not getting that. No, no, I know they're not, but what I'm saying is there's a, like, ad revenue goes down when views go down. And they were just getting less views than they used to, so naturally the ad budgets are going to go other places, right? Like, they'll honestly probably go to, like, podcasts

and digital. Absolutely. So, you have to hold the Colbert show accountable a little bit for not leaning more into advertising or monetizing their digital presence where they do have a huge audience. I hold the Colbert show responsible and Paramount responsible because really Paramount more so than anything. You don't just cancel a show like Stephen Colbert, especially when you still, Stephen Colbert, when you're on your quarterly calls and you're talking to your shareholders and you're talking to the revenue people, that's one of the top shows you bring up all in the time, the late show. how it's the highest rated show on late night. Every single, every other late night show has made cuts. Jimmy Kimmel doesn't work in the summer anymore. He doesn't work in the summer anymore because of budget.

Seth Myers had to get rid of his band. Jimmy Fallon only comes on four days a week. You know what I mean? They didn't even do anything with the Colbert show. There's a reason why, and a lot of people don't know this. So like, in order for to keep Colbert in New York City, they had... Governor Holtzell. So what they did is they didn't want the...

Colbert, which is this late-night institution for New York, to leave New York. So they made an agreement in order to get tax cuts. So they got these tax cuts that would lower the amount of money that they would have to make profitable. But the exchange with the government was essentially that they had to keep a certain amount of people employed. So they can't fire anybody. When you can't fire anybody, like you just mentioned with those other shows, they fired a lot of people to reduce the cost of the show. They can't do that. And they have seven different unions. The rent and the building is probably astronomical. Like, you, the Cold Air Show makes money. Let's say it makes 50 or 70 million dollars a year in ad revenue. It doesn't cost that much money to make that show. It costs that much money to make

that show where they make it, how they make it. They could downsize this show. They could do the show for 20 million bucks. They did it during COVID. Exactly. I wouldn't do that version, but they something, something a little bit more scaled up, but not too much. This is why I'm saying, like, if they wanted to go after it, and I know Stevens 61 and maybe he wants to spend time with his family, but if they want to go after it and use the internet, The internet, I think people would respond to this in such incredible fashion. And it would really prove to the powers that be like, yo, we're not going to be silence.

You can say whatever the fuck you want to say. And we have the platforms available for us to do it. Now, it's a big undertaking. I get what you're saying about age. But I do think the audience is there. And it would be the most badass rebellious thing. I mean, by the way, these guys have made a lot of money. Colbert was making $15 to $20 million a year for like the last decade, bro.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. He's made a lot of money. Got a beautiful life in Jersey, a beautiful life in South Carolina. You might just want to hang it up. You might want to go out with a bang the next 10 months. My assumption is... And wrap up.

My assumption is they asked him not to announce it for six months. Because Colbert probably got something in his contract that says that if you're not going to renew him, you need to give him one year advance notice. Most contracts exist like that. So they told him, and then they probably were like, we would really appreciate it if you just wait six months to announce this, and then we can do a great last six months of the show. And he was like, fuck it.

And good for him for saying that shit. But yeah, just came back from vacation, and he shitted on Paramount. He was like, you know, they have a name for what Paramount did, you know, with Trump by giving them the $60 million. And it's called Big Fat Bride. Now, I believe this kind of complicated financial settlement with a sitting government official has a technical name in legal circles. It's Big Fat Bride.

Because, you know what I'm saying? By the way, Cobain and John. Stewart have been on this. I know everybody's just starting to pay attention this week. They've been on Paramount to not settle, letting them know what the ramifications of this could be, how it's going to look. Everybody knows it's political.

Do you think the same guy who literally just told the Washington Redskins last week? The Washington commanders, if you don't change your name back to the Redskins, I'm not approving this new stadium. Don't fall for all them distractions, bro. Don't fall for the MLK shit. There's so ridiculous Obama shit he's doing. Like, all that is distraction.

Epstein. Boom. And I do not want people. And his ankles. I even think that's a distraction. No, you think so? Yeah. I think that's it. I think all of it is a distraction because he cannot release the Epstein shit because there's incriminating things with him in it. And I don't know if it's incriminating to him. I can't say that.

But he's obviously in the files. I think they even, the Justice Department told Pam Bondi that he is mentioned in the files. So he's doing everything he possibly can and the administration doing everything possibly can to not release the Epstein files. and I think a very important thing for everybody to know right now and everybody who wants to be like, you had them on your fucking podcast, you did this, you're fine, say that about me, that's totally fine, and you're right, you did it, fine, sure.

Get that out, just get all your frustration out because now we got to move forward. We can talk as long as we want about this, you can say whatever you want about me, but there is a certain point of time where you have a moment where he's not releasing the absent files, he's not stopping the pointless wars, he's increasing the budget,

He's doing the three things that he promised his base he would not do. Remember, he ran on institutional reform, Charlotte. He ran saying that the deep state is stopping us from doing all these things. And I'm not going to let that happen. Well, he has Congress and he has the presidency, and he is doing exactly what the institutions want him to do. So Democrats have this opportunity to be the party of reform. and make him the party of the institutions and the status quo.

And the reform candidate always wins. But they have to make a choice right now to decide whether they want a finger wag and virtue signal or they want to bring people into their coalition. Get the finger wagging out. Say whatever you want about me. Say whatever you want about everybody. I'll take it. I don't care.

But there's an opportunity now to bring people in to win an election. And you cannot do that if you want to spend time virtue signal and finger on. I agree. I think after you say I tell you. told you so now you got to figure out what we do next. There we go. Listen, the fact that the house, bro, this was crazy. The house shut down for the summer. So they didn't have to vote. So they didn't have to vote on release in the Epstein files. Just think about that for a second. This is pure corruption. So listen, I'm an American citizen. The house, the place where they go to vote on

different legislation, things that help American people have to shut down for two months, just So they don't do a vote on the Epstein file? And for all the people out there saying, What? The Epstein thing is a nothing burger. The Epstein thing is another. If it's a nothing burger, then why are they shutting down Congress

so they don't have to release a box? Give me a nothing with cheese. Thank you. 100%. I don't even eat cheese. And this is the thing about, this is the thing about Dems right now. The Republican base is not supportive of Trump right now

because he is rejecting all the things he promised to them. What about it's saying for months, Andrew? We know Republicans are going to. fumble, but Democrats don't have the team to recover the ball. Listen. They don't have the team to recover. It's right there. Yeah, but we could see. Remember when Cam and the Super Bowl did like this? Back the way from the football? Remember when Cam Newton did it? That's what they're doing right. It's right there. Here's the thing. They are putting pressure and Republicans are also putting

pressure and there's this bipartisan support amongst the people, not amongst the politicians. They're all protecting the fucking pedophiles and they're protecting all the corruption. Both sides, by the way. But the people, want this thing. And I, if I'm anybody that's like in politics right now, I am being unrelenting on this shit. I am telling Democrats, do not take your foot off the gas. Don't take the bait. Don't take the Obama bait. Don't take the Redskins bait. Don't take any of this bullshit bait. He's going to throw out. Stay on Epstein. Because his base is pissed about Epstein as well. Bro. All they got to say is Trump is protecting pedophiles. That's it. We had this whole conversation last week. There is no other

issue for Democrats to be talking about right now because it is the bridge between them and the support of Trump supporters, them and the support of MAGA. It's the one bipartisan issue everybody motherfucking agrees on. Now, let me tell you something else. This is my personal opinion. This is going to who is going to end up being the heroes and all this. Republicans. And I'm going to tell you why. This is just my personal opinion. I think they lining Trump up. I think that there's Republicans and Republicans and How does that be that want their party back? They see how this guy is not good for the world, right?

Especially the economy. And they're like, this is our opportunity to get them out. Because they're making a show of it. A couple weeks ago, House Speaker Mike Johnson was like, you got to release the Epstein files. Now all of a sudden, we're taking a... Who lets people know we're taking the summer off so we don't have to bring the Epstein files?

Why do they get the summer? They're not teachers. That's what I'm saying. We still need laws in the summer. Like, I even know they got to... to take a break. They're putting the bat signal in the sky for everybody to just keep piling on, piling on, piling on about the FD. They said. They say J.D. Vance went to go meet with, um, what did he go? Rupert Murdoch and then, uh, was it Rupert? I actually, I don't know.

I mean, look that up, Alex, I can't remember. J.D. Vance went to go meet with somebody. My point is, I feel like this is a ploy by the GOP to lead a coup against Trump. Now, now, let me, let me, let me, let me, and when they get him out, right? And they're, they're the one that they can throw him to the wolves. All the old Democrats in there, they love to throw them to the world. Just everybody got to go, now they look like the heroes. Now they look like the party that spoke truth to power, the party that stood up to the pedophiles. Well, I don't care which party does it, but we need that shit to come out. Like, it's absolutely absurd. But, but to your point right now, who released? Yep. Who released? Okay, so J.D. Vance just hit

up Rupert Murdoch and his son, Lachlan at their Montana ranch. Okay. This meeting was, what is this, Chat TVT. Do you ask ChatGBTGBT to speak like Ibonics? Yeah. That's hilarious. Can I read to you? This is Alex's Chad CBT response. He goes, what did JD Vance? What did you ask it? Who did JD Vance recently meet with? Yeah, and this is the chat Chbitty response from Alex, okay?

Yo, JD fans just hit up Rupert Murdoch and his son Lachlan at their Montana ranch. The meeting was low-key, no heads up, and lasted a few hours. Right after the Wall Street Journal dropped a wild story about Trump. Trump and Epstein, Trump's now suing Murdoch for $10 billion over. And this came from the Economic Times. Now listen to you. Rupert Murdoch owned the Wall Street Journal. That's what I want to say.

So to your point about Republicans pushing him out, right? Trump had a stranglehold over the Republican Party that the traditional like neocon Republicans did not like. Right? But they had to get on board because Trump really galvanized the entire base. What's interesting is Rupert Murdoch owns Wall Street Journal, which released that due that he sent to Epstein, allegedly, so we don't get sued. I'm going to be honest with you.

I didn't believe that, though. That he didn't do it? It just, you know why? It seemed too warm. What has Trump ever been that warm, bro? Yeah. It doesn't seem too warm. Now, unbeknownst to me, he does doodle a lot.

I didn't know. I didn't notice. I saw the Daily Show the other day, and they were showing all his old drawings and stuff. But it just seemed too warm. I would like to see a picture of it, too. I think that that's weird that they didn't show the picture. Regardless of this, the point is,

Rupert Murdoch, who also owns Fox News, right? And I think that John was making an interesting point where it's like, Trump isn't even loyal to his loyalists. And it's like, I, but no, I would look at it the opposite way. I would go, Rupert is making a move on Trump. Yes. Yes. So your point, Rupert, who is, I think to say what John was saying,

who's been glazing Trump on Fox, is seemingly pivoting to, nah, you might be in on this, and maybe a lot of other people are in it, but it looks like they're making Trump the sacrificial land. Because if it's Trump and some other Republicans they can get rid of

and some Democrats who know they can get rid of, they don't give a fuck. They come out clean. This is where we need to be completely honest. It's like, if you are Trump's base and you fucking rah, rah, rah, rah for Trump, if you find out that he's involved in this shit, there is no...

There is no justification that you could possibly think of. No, none. There is no justification to possibly think of. I'm sorry. Like, there is nothing you could possibly say that will be, that will make any of this okay. None. And this is the moment, and this is why I think it's important

to put pressure. Like, if you care about America, I don't care about parties, you know what I mean? And I understand people, oh, you're in trouble the party. I get it, I get it, get it all out of your system. Right now, we have to focus on what is best. I was maybe stupid to believe that he was going to stop the foreign wars.

Maybe I was stupid to believe this he was going to put out the Epsine shit. Maybe I was stupid to believe that he wasn't going to blow out the budget when he's saying Doge is going to drop it down and we're going to do all this amazing work. Maybe Elon was also stupid to believe that. Maybe a lot of people. It's 70 plus million people that were. Okay, better enough. So I'll take that.

I'll take that. But after taking it, I'm not just going to sit here in silence. Is that what you want me to do? You shouldn't. Just like Democrats shouldn't have just sat back and watched old man Biden for the last four years and pretend it like he wasn't seen out. And shouldn't have fucking covered it up. This is what you do. when the person you voted for,

I don't care if you voted for him or not, but if you voted, right, once that person becomes president, they are the president of all of Americans. Facts. I feel like it's more powerful hearing Trump critique from the people who voted for him.

I think it's more powerful coming from Rogan. There's more powerful coming from you. There's more powerful coming from Candace Owens. Because now it's like, oh, these are the same people who platformed them. So now I'm going to listen to them if they're telling me some fucked up shit this happening. I always used to say, if you lie to people about Democrats, they won't believe

you about Republicans. It's the same thing here. If you lie to people about Republicans, they won't believe you when you tell them about Democrats. All you're doing is telling Americans what the fuck is going on in America. Yo, we got got cool. But this shit he's doing right now isn't what he motherfucking told us that he was going to do and this shit is fucked up. What are we going to do about it? I'll tell you what. I think that the Democrats got a low-key star, by the way. Oh, this sounds like I'm setting you up. I promise I'm not. Do you know who John Osoff is or also? Oh, yeah, from Atlanta.

From Georgia. From Georgia. I want you to watch this thing that he did recently. I want to watch this speech. Do we want to continue? Because we're at hour 50. Oh, okay. Yeah, let's watch it.

Let's watch it. Yeah, this is good. I want you to watch this John Osaf speech that he did. So he's a Democrat from Georgia. Keep in mind. He got an office in 2020. No, yeah, 2020. There you go.

Ready? This is a Democrat from Georgia. Now, keep in mind a couple things about this. One, America loves Southern Democrats. There's something about the South where I think the South trusts a Southern Democrat a little bit more. It's wholesome. A liberal elite from New England or some shit, right? Yeah, we've had John on Breakfast Club before.

Really? Yeah, we had him on Breakfast Club when he was running for Senator to Georgia. I think he's been on like one other time. There it is. Right here. Okay, go. Even before he came on the scene. See, I get why people voted for him.

Because even before he came on the scene, America had the most corrupt political system in the Western world. It's been running on corporate money, secret money, billionaire money, both sides. And it's worse than ever now. Citizens United was the worst court decision in modern American history. Boom. Boom. And when members of Congress aren't begging for money from lobbyists, they're trying to dodge getting carpet bombed by these super PACs. Senators get threatened every day with millions and millions of dollars of attack ads over the votes that we take.

And see, this is why nothing works for ordinary people. It's not because of woke college kids or trans students or because there are interracial couples in serial commercials. It's because the people's elected representatives don't represent the people. They represent the donors. And that corruption is why they just defunded nursing homes to cut taxes for the rich. Corruption is why you pay a fortune for prescriptions. Corruption is why your insurance claim keeps getting denied. Corruption is why hedge funds get to buy up all the houses in your neighborhood driving you out of the market.

And then your corporate landlord ignores your calls during a day. gas leak. Corruption is why that ambulance costs $3,000 after you just had to get your choking toddler to the hospital. So Trump promised to attack a broken system. I get it. Ripe target. But here's the thing, he's a crook and a con man, and he wants to be a king. Yes, the system really is rigged, but Trump's not unrigging it. He's re-rigging it for himself. I agree with every single word he said. That motherfucker look. I agree with every single word he said. He's handsome. He's,

and he's doing something that's really important. He's calling out his own side. Yes. I tell this people all the time. You trust the waiter that tells you that the halibut sucks. Yes. You need to know that that waiter is going to tell you the truth. Yes. The waiter that recommends the most expensive dish on

the menu, you don't trust at all. At all. He calls out how it affects Democrats as well. So now I go, oh wow, this guy isn't just doing some bullshit. He's calling out the real problem in the system, which is money and politics. If you listen to the brilliant idiots podcast, you elected officials and government officials, we've given you the blueprint. I've been telling y'all for months, the next person from the Democratic Party, the future of the party, has to throw the old regime under the bus. It's really

just that simple. You've been saying it's nonstop and you can get a lot of fucking criticism for it and you'll never get celebrated when they actually do it. Never. I just want to let you know. Never. Get all the criticism and they'll act like it never happen. Never. I'm not going to when I was on Daily Show last night, I definitely bought it back up, though. Because I was taught with the point I was making on Daily Show last night was that, you know, they're trying to distract you by bringing up this Joe Biden, this old shit again.

And, yo, there was a bunch of motherfuckers who lied about that. I wasn't one of them, right? And then, you know, I was like, but, you know, if you want the opportunity to call out another old president, here you go, right? Because Donald Trump, physically and mentally, ain't looking too good right now. I don't know if that's the argument I would make.

Bro, this guy's ankles look like he got Chris Christie in his socks. What are you talking about? What are you fucking talking? I just don't know if that's the thing that's going to get the basis. Oh, no, no, I'm with you. Yeah. I think that you just... It's an issue about age.

The Daily Show audience is... How young the girls were. Yes, the Daily Show audience is different because they're an audience that actually pays attention to politics that you can be nuanced and talk about a bunch of things at one time. But for the masses, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. Because Epstein is literally... what brings people in the door.

Now, like John Alsop is doing, I can show you how this guy, he didn't stop the wars, right? He's still taking the money from corporate donors, right? He's cutting your Medicaid. I can show you all of these other things he's doing and you'll believe it now because now you finally believe he's a liar.

All the thing is, all, and by the way, even worse than a liar is he is upholding the institutions that he swore to take down. In the first administration, he got to say, I want to make these changes, but the Democrats on Congress, they won't let me. Now there's nothing stopping him. He can release the Epstein files. He's not doing it.

That's right. He can stop the wars. You can't stop Ukraine because Putin's a fucking psychopath and he just will continue to take it. But like Gaza, you could stop right now. He's not doing it. That's right. So, and obviously with the big, beautiful bill, the budget, like shutting down Doge or just making Doge focus on U.S.

USAID instead of the Pentagon budget or whatever these things are. And again, I don't know enough about the money in the Pentagon. I don't know how important it is that we develop these new military weapons to protect ourselves. So I don't want to speak out of turn about that shit. But my point is there are things that he spoke to his base, his base cared about. And then there are things he spoke to people who are not his base that I really cared about. I was tired of fun in these these wars when you got people in America struggling, dude. And that resonated. I wanted to know what happened with Epstein. I don't like the idea that there are potentially government officials involved in covering up a pedophile ring.

I don't like it at all. I want to know about that shit. And when you backtrack on those promises, it's going to make people enrage. And then it exposed what you were saying. Like, well, if he could lie about this, what else could he potentially lie? Because you have a base of people

who don't believe he's lying. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And they haven't paid attention to all of the lies. So now that you got him caught in one, let me show you all the others. Because he don't even,

by the way, he doesn't even lie good when you actually pay attention to him. And the fact that he just finds a way to blame Democrats and Barack Obama for everything is hilarious. That's how I knew that they were desperate. He treats them like Rock Nation.

He treats them the way the coaches treats Rock Nation. You see what my T-shirt says, right? Blame Rock Nation. Blame Rock Nation. Blame Rock Nation. Blame Rock Nation. Blame Rock Nation for every

fucking thing. That's the way he treats Democrats and Obama. Obama is his Jay-Z. Democrats are his rock nation. Hillary Clinton is his Desiree Perez. I'm serious. Blame them for everything.

up. We'll be back next week, man. As always, you want to do some after-in-a-neas? What do you think? We do it afterwards? Or, eh, we do it. If we have time. Yeah, man, we've been here for two hours. Fair enough. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's a brilliant idiotist podcast. Thank you for listening.