The Brilliant Idiots - Rizzing Or Not
Episode Date: December 17, 2022This week Andrew couldn’t help but call out Charlamagne for his odd text he sent to him after his colonoscopy, while Andrew enjoyed his experience in Morocco. Let’s just say Andrew seems to believ...e they might have slipped Charlamagne a good ol’ Blue Chew during his procedure, or maybe Charlamagne just had a good time while doing it. In addition, shout out to the IG “GayeMagazine” for supporting Charlamagne’s claim to being a verse bottom. Later in the episode, they get into a discussion about media moving away from opinion-based news lately after Elon Musk decisions on Twitter. They also discussed the possible downside of working in entertainment after Duval tweeted “If you can’t afford to work for free for some years, then the entertainment business is not what you wanna be in.. go to school or learn trade.” Moral of the story, the entertainment business is not for the weak or spoiled. Thanks to our sponsor Nord VPN. Grab your EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal by going to nordvpn.com/brilliantidiots to get a Huge Discount off your NordVPN Plan + 4 months for free! - It’s completely risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! - That’s N-O-R-D-V-P-N dot com slash Brilliant Idiots for a discount off your NordVPN, plus four months FOR FREE! ***************************************************** Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount+ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ Empty Thoughts Podcast podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empt…ow/id1622292632 Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Let's start the show.
Big Shotsie, De Hezzi.
In the building.
What's happening?
Telling, man.
I just got back from Africa.
Talk to me.
I saw you.
Man, let me tell you something.
I know y'all getting money, man.
You took the whole crew spurred of money.
I always take the crew.
To go to Morocco.
You do always take the crew, but when you take the crew within 12 hours.
That was wild.
You know what I'm saying?
That was wild.
Like, I'm going to see the World Cup.
What's the best way to go through?
We didn't even see the World Cup.
It wasn't in Morocco.
What?
The World Cup is in Qatar.
Explain.
So Morocco is this unbelievable underdog.
Okay.
And they had reached the semifinals.
And they were playing against France.
So there's all these great storylines that are happening.
Morocco was colonized by France.
Yeah.
colonized against a colonizer.
Morocco's playing unbelievable.
Really? How the hell is Frisch Montana's name French Montana and he's from Morocco?
Well, they speak French there because they were colonized.
Oh.
They actually have a good relationship, it seems, with the French.
But I just felt like the energy was so crazy and I wanted to be there for that moment.
I love like the what if moment.
What if this could happen?
I love being involved in something miraculous.
So, you know, I was like, fellas.
Cleveland, and they played Golden State.
Imagine you were there.
And let me tell you something.
One of the greatest memories I have right now
I was literally in, I think it was a Ruba,
I was in a hotel with a guy from fucking Cleveland
and his girlfriend and I watched him
watch his team
Oh beat Golden State
In the hotel, we're watching with a bunch of like expats
And there are a few Americans, a bunch of people from like Europe
And we're just watching a random hotel in the bar
And it was this, he was fucking crying, we're jumping, we're hugging
And I was like, okay, if we go to Morocco and this happens
You've never experienced energy like that
No, I know you mean
I had that experience.
We had to go.
So I was just, I wanted to see it.
And I just loved this is the first African team that's been to the semifinals.
The first Muslim country has been to the semifinals.
The first, what was it?
Arab team.
I don't know.
What was the other one?
I forget the other one.
There was like three things that you never.
So it's like the entire like North African community was coming behind it.
The entire like Muslim communities coming behind it.
It was just.
So where are you watching?
Like a bar in Morocco?
In the plaza.
So the last game was watching was 30,000 people.
They just put up a TV.
Wow.
We go watch.
And it's like.
Explain what that?
So that's like being like in the middle of time square
If the Knicks were playing.
Yeah, but only there's not screens everywhere.
You're still in a, you know, developing country.
Yeah.
So they just put up a big screen and put up some speakers.
And of course, torrential downpour.
Wow.
So the first half we have to go inside to this bar.
We're watching on TVs that are half the size of that.
Right?
There's two TVs half the size of that.
And they're just way far away.
You could barely see anything.
You're just going off of energy.
And people are smoking inside.
Like, it was just fucking awesome.
I had experience like that once when I was,
I was in Jamaica and I was leaving Jamaica and Usain Bolt was running in the Olympics.
There we go.
I was in the airport.
When I tell you that they stop everything.
I'm not even joking like stop everything.
Not like accidentally.
Purposely.
When Usain runs, security stops.
Everybody stops and we all just watched Usain running the airport.
And those Jamaicans lost it.
Yep.
Lost it.
You know, so yes, I understand that feeling of energy.
Dude, there's a thing.
I mean, like, I'm so, I'm actually really excited that at 39 I've just discovered soccer,
which is the most famous sport in the world.
It is.
But I'm excited because I have the rest of my life to kind of like dive into it.
But it's just so amazing, especially the World Cup, because every one of these countries
has fought each other in war.
Like, there's so much history in every single match, especially just in the European ones.
I mean, you're talking about, like, centuries.
millennia of them just fighting one another.
So soccer is this proxy to work out all those old beefs that they've had forever.
And you're talking about colonized countries going against the colonizers.
You're talking about like World War I rematches, World War II rematches.
Like everything is so heightened in a safe enough version of it and people's identities are
wrapped up into it.
It's fucking awesome.
So why hasn't it bled over to America?
I think it's starting.
I think it's starting.
But we also don't have that history.
We don't have that history of war
It's like we don't have that history of war with Europe
Where we get to play it out
Yes, we're involved in World War and World War II
But almost like as outsiders
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like
I mean, you know
Every time, every time we go up against somebody
We always remind them
Like if it's USA versus Japan and some shit
You know we're saying some things
Who wasn't this year?
It was USA was somebody in the World Cup
They put on a television
Was it the World Cup?
We were in the World Cup
We were in the World Cup
Yeah, we made it to somebody
With the Netherlands
I mean we had a few games
but we lost in Netherlands.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, it was cool, man.
I was definitely cool.
Morocco's an amazing place, bro.
I've never been to Morocco.
It is amazing, bro.
Cultural exchange.
You go back there and travel again?
I've been there before my wife and I went back again,
but just like little subtle things that you don't realize,
like in a place where like women are not hyper-sexualized,
like when they do do something, it seems way more naughty.
Like we were watching this live band.
They were fucking amazing, right?
And like the girl was singing at one point, like the guy got behind
the girl and the girl started like twerking a little bit on them.
And I remember like looking around at all the homies like, is she going to get killed?
Like, are they going to arrest her?
That's a real, no, you're right.
But how crazy is that?
If I saw that in the street in New York, I wouldn't think twice about it.
Yeah, exactly.
That's all you got?
That's it.
You know, pop a titty for a goon.
You know what I'm a goon.
So, but the littlest thing felt so spicy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's kind of cool.
It's kind of cool to have that recent.
set. I've never been to Morocco, man.
Speaking of spicy, I had a colonoscopy.
Yeah, you called me about that. You woke up hard.
Why is that? You think?
Can I read the text that you sent me?
That's the weirdest thing I ever got in my life.
I was glad I was out the country.
I almost didn't come back.
I almost didn't come back
when you sent me that text message.
What was the text?
You must have been higher.
I was high as shit, bro.
Anestinthagee, we were off till like later that night,
and I'm like,
Saturday, 11, 4.
I don't need text like this before noon on a Saturday.
I just had a colonoscopy, period.
Like literally just got out.
It's criminal that a man can give you something within 10 seconds.
You're knocked out.
And then he's in your butt.
Not to mention, I woke up with a crazy hard dick.
This shit not right.
It seemed very right.
It seemed exactly what you wanted.
with you? Listen, the hardest thing about a colonoscopy?
What made you text me?
That I do not know, bro.
Like, I'm really trying to understand.
Nobody did.
What made you message me?
Like, why'd you wake up with a hard dick after a dude was in your ass?
And then you go, I got to tell Schultz, this one.
This is crazy.
I'm trying to figure out who else I sent that shit to.
Because in my mind, I only told my wife that shit, yo.
Yeah, spelling mistakes and everything.
I knew you was feeling good.
You was still shaking after that one.
No punctuation.
nothing, you just need to get that shit out.
They told me, when I went to go get my colonoscopy consultation,
they told me to come back when I'm 45, right?
But I have a history of it in my family.
So we end up a history of it in my family.
They're like, all, you can get the colonoscopy.
I went to go get the colonoscopy.
First of all, everybody should go get the colonoscopy
when you get around that age.
But the hardest part about it is the prep the day before.
No.
The hardest part about it was the prep the day before
because you got to take these pills.
Oh, yeah, you got to flush your old system.
Yeah.
Like, you know, you can't even know.
You can't even leave the house.
Like you got to be by that toilet.
Let me continue this conversation.
I go, I said more.
I wake up hard.
You go, bro, I have no idea.
I go, did you ask?
You said, no, I was kind of out of it and couldn't believe the anesthesia worked so well.
Doctor was like in 10 seconds you'll be out.
And when you wake up, it will be over.
And I woke up and I was like, Doc, we just getting started.
I didn't say that.
Are you sure you this?
You think I made up that
Plath Park?
Yo, I'm not going to lie, yo, that shit is wild.
You ever had the anesthesia that they put in your?
I never had anesthesia before.
Have you ever had anesthesia?
No, what was the anesthesia?
Blue true?
Bro, is that what they gave you?
I don't know, but whatever that shit was,
the doctor goes, you ready?
In 10 seconds, you're going to be, in my mind,
I'm like, yeah, right.
I don't, you had it before, Chris?
I don't remember, I mean, black out.
And when you wake up, somebody got to wake you up.
And I'm like, the fuck just happened.
yo and then you wake up, all they tell you is turn over on your left side.
So you turn over on your left side and you wake up on your left side.
As tuted in the air.
And then when I rolled over, I rode over, I got the big stiffy.
I'm like, what the fuck?
You weren't concerned at all?
The doctor was sucking you off.
That could have happened.
You know what?
You'll never know.
You'll never know.
I just know that's what I, when I, when I,
I rolled over.
One of my first thoughts was when I do like this on my chin.
Yeah, as I said.
When I rolled over on my back, I'm like, why do I got the big stiffy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is the stiffy, well, where did the stiffy come from?
Nah, they didn't hit nothing.
They sucked on it.
There's no way you don't know if they sucked on it.
You need video, bro.
You need video.
That's what I want.
No, all jokes aside, anytime you do a colonnostic, they should let us watch the video afterwards.
Yeah, especially if you wake up bricked.
I just want to see what went on.
on. Yeah, me too. Me too. The anesthesia wears off later so you don't feel any
sawdice in your butthole until way later in the day. The shit is wild, bro.
How'd it feel later? What you mean, the butthole? Yeah. Very tender. Like, tender to, like,
the point where, like, it felt like you was doing kegles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you would do kegels,
it would hurt. Yeah. You know what I mean? So the thing is trying to keep your butt from doing,
like, this, this. From the squeezing. Yeah. What you mean the squeezing?
You know, when you squeeze it.
The kegle, yeah, the kegle, yeah, the butt kegles.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A's a little off, bro.
Taylor said, that's your G-spot.
That ain't your goddamn G-spot.
Taylor, Taylor.
We do not have a G-spot on our ass.
That is gay propaganda.
Yes, it is.
Oh, my God, I hate when I hear this bullshit excuse.
Why do you think?
Wait, why do you think?
I thought American pie started that.
Say what?
I thought American pie started that when Stifflot was getting,
Stiflow was getting some procedure.
Seminal fluid comes out.
The actual.
fluid, but no actual semen comes out.
What do you mean? You can nut from your but hole? Not nut. It's not nut.
It just stimulates you. It doesn't simulate you. It just, there's a liquid that
doesn't come in out, but there's no actual common. I don't know, man. I'm not talking about
that. I'm just saying that y'all have a spot there that turns y'all. Oh, do we?
You're telling a man about his body. Okay, Taylor.
Don't you tell me about my body. How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this?
You don't have a G-spot?
The Gucci ain't the G-spot, though, Taylor. You're talking. You're talking.
about inside.
I know.
I'm talking about inside too.
No,
there's no G spot in our
butt holes, it would be more
a conversation about it.
It's really not a conversation
about it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's not like when you take a shit
you start nutting.
Like if we had a G spot in our asshole
when we were shit,
we would nut.
I think so.
That's coming down.
Someone's pushing up.
But you don't think the shit
would tickle it a little bit
on the way down?
Yeah, it's going to push against it.
That's the same thing I'm asking about like.
What do you mean?
Like when you go in like a horseback ride,
like that shit hits your clip.
It feels good.
Or a roller coaster.
It's a great point.
It's a great point.
Yeah.
We don't have that.
Exactly.
Why do you think women need to ride side saddle?
And why would our creator make us so hard to reach?
There's nuts all over a horseback.
You don't know that?
Why do you, that's why women have to ride side saddle.
Because these horny sluts were coming all over these stallions.
You know, it was crazy.
No, that's true.
They started using it as conditional for the main.
That's facts.
That's facts.
No, for real.
People wonder why the hans his mane looks the way it does.
That's what it was.
Back in the day, instead of, like, wiping it off,
they were just, like, brush it through the main.
Yep.
You didn't know that?
This is true.
These are true facts that we made up.
If your G-spot was in your butt,
why would your creator make it so hard to find?
You know what I'm saying?
There's no G-spot in the butt.
Like, this is...
Listen, if I was gay, dude, I would say the same shit to straight guys.
You know, you're not...
You know what I mean?
You know, your G-spot's really in your butt.
Oh, you're a real-you-you-old-old.
You see American buy, right?
You see how Stifler got turned on?
Exactly.
But gay people, like, they clearly enjoy it.
Taylor, stop trying to tell us about our bodies.
It's the only hole they can fuck.
You know what I mean?
Whether they enjoy it or not, that's what's there.
You got to work with what you're given.
Salute to the LGBTQ community.
I don't want to talk about them this week because they said that we'd be appropriating
gay culture.
You know what I mean?
What you mean?
I don't want them to feel like I would appropriate gay culture.
How are we appropriating gay culture?
Because remember we had the conversation last week about whether I'm about, you know,
whether I'm about.
bottom of our top. You know what I'm saying?
And I was saying how I got power top energy.
So I was on a, not that,
that's neighborhood talk. Forget neighborhood talk. Go to the
book to the great Instagram of gay.
Gay Instagram, gay magazine.
I love this Instagram, by the way.
Whenever I get posted on here,
this, this Instagram is the funniest.
I don't know if you listen to the start of this podcast.
You're going right back up to the gay magazine post.
No.
Your colonoscopy?
Bro, this right here is the,
funniest Instagram, bro. At least when they pose
like, yo, these, they are, they are
so mad about, well, no, not all of them are mad.
Let me take that back. Because they're actually having a great discussion
about straight men like us who are comfortable having these kind of
conversations, but then there are other people saying that we're
appropriating gay culture and they need
heterosexual men to stop appropriating
gay culture.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I really, I'm losing my eyesight.
Read it, Taylor, because I can't read it.
I fuck with Charlemagne.
I like how he takes questions that would have most dudes heated and just roll with them.
Charlemagne goes to get LASIC surgery, fix his eyes, wakes up, dick rock.
You're like, yo, I won't come from surgery and get my dick hard as hell.
You go get Lysic.
I went to the colonoscopy we got.
He said he could do it.
I would love any doctor to tell me why that is, though.
I don't want to Google this information.
I tried Googling it, but I'm like, I don't know what to begin to Google.
I googled like why you wake up with this stiffy after a colonizer.
You wake up with his stupid.
But I want if there's a regular thing.
I want to know why this happened.
No, no, no, no.
That doctor was suckering off.
You were getting sucked on, bro.
Oh, scroll down some more.
There's one that...
Come on, Taylor.
Just scroll down.
Yo, let me tell you,
LGBQ community, let me tell you something.
We are gay.
Man, shut up.
We are gay on this podcast.
One guy said, my people can't make up their mind.
If he would have gotten angry,
saying, I'm straight, don't come with me with that gay shit.
We would be up in arms talking about this homophobia.
Being able to have some type of education.
on the community is a great thing, in my opinion.
He's able to laugh and have fun with the interview.
Yeah, I agree.
Scroll down.
Oh, right there, right to, right to this one.
This guy, he said, we are losing our culture to the pseudo-straight man.
You know, sex isn't your culture.
Do you know what I mean?
I think being gay as a culture.
No, no, sex.
We were talking about the sex, the act of sex.
The act of sex isn't culture.
That's not unique.
I agree.
But I think what he means...
Culture is like the language, the dance, the connectivity.
We're using that, though.
We're using their language.
Yeah, but we're gay.
Shut up, man.
You don't tell me I'm not gay.
I come in here once a week.
I'm gay.
I'm gay from Tuesday, 10 a.m.
to about 12 noon on Tuesday.
Your boy is gay.
Gay.
Big gay.
Big gay.
Big Schultzzi.
Big Jolzzi.
Hands on my knees and I'm in my daughter, I'm a dot shit.
Oh my God.
You know what I mean?
Hands on my knees.
I'm a dot shit.
You made me think about something, though.
There is something to that, right?
What?
Not that you being.
I can't be gay for a morning.
But no, you went to Morocco.
Yeah, I went to Morocco.
What did you do in Morocco?
You embraced that culture, right?
Thank you.
I'm Morocco.
You embraced that culture.
You went to celebrate that culture.
You went and watched the game.
game in the plaza with them.
Like you went to Morocco to be a part of the culture.
I want to be North African.
Okay.
So it's the same thing, right?
It's just like, yo, if we use the language,
listen, I think I used the language because I thought that was the language.
I thought that's what they're referred to, bottoms, tops.
That's what we call each other.
And I do think, I do think gay lingo is hilarious.
I used to love listening to the read just to listen to Kid Furies,
the sympathy he had towards bottoms, the empathy that he would show.
towards Bottoms.
How do you tell it to Mike?
Tell it over here, talk what they do.
You know everything about assholes today, huh?
No, Trave be telling me.
Bottoms have a tough life?
Yeah, he was like...
What do you mean when we say, define tough life?
And he had a tough life.
You know what I mean?
What do you mean?
No, like they just basically look down on them.
Like, they like to fuck because Travis is a top.
But he likes to fuck them, but they do live like
they messy bottoms, like you said before.
I don't want to have this conversation with no LGBTQ members.
Anyway, so we're gay, man.
And that's okay.
Yo, it's okay to be gay.
It's okay to be gay.
It's okay to be gay from 10 a.m. to 12.
Follow gay Instagram, though.
G-A-W-E-Taylor?
Gay magazine.
Gay, follow gay magazine Instagram.
I'm following it right now.
No, it's actually a really good Instagram.
I'm following it right now.
What?
Did you see the tweet?
What tweet, bro?
That Duval posted.
I did see it.
Let's pull this tweet up.
No, no, I did see it.
Oh, you got it?
Damn, why?
We got to pull that thing closer, man.
I might need to go see the goddamn LASICs to get a brickie for real.
Little Duvall says,
if you can't afford to work for free for some years,
then the entertainment business is not what you want to be in.
I thought you talked about.
I thought you were talking about the,
the gunner.
Oh, let's do that.
You want to talk?
Let's go.
I'm obsessed with a couple.
I had that third on the list.
So we are in order.
We went Morocco, colonoscopy.
We could go to YS.
I had Y-SEL third on the list.
Okay, so Duval comes out of the tweet
which I thought you were talking about,
which basically said,
yo, don't pin snitch on Gunna
until you hear Thug talk about it first.
I agree with that.
This could all be part of Thug's plan.
This just goes to everybody on the internet
thinks they're an expert at whatever the topic of the moment.
If it's COVID,
then everybody's all of a sudden the scientists.
You know about vaccines and all types of other shit.
If it's, you know,
something to do with prison and jail,
now all of a sudden everybody's a lawyer.
If it's a politics, everybody's a political strategist.
Like everybody turns into an expert of whatever said topic is.
That's facts.
Like just 10 minutes ago, we were experts about LGBTQ things.
No, it wasn't.
You were speaking from the perspective of a gay man.
You were too.
No.
You're gay.
According to gay magazine, I'm more of a verse top.
Which is part of the gay umbrella.
You're within the gay umbrella, dude.
Listen, we are braising.
It's our gay brothers and sisters, man.
Shout out to the gays.
That's right, baby.
We're under that gay umbrella,
and we're under the umbrella because there's raining men.
It's raining me.
Oh.
Oh, I see what you did that.
I see what you did right there, OG.
You see what?
That was a throw.
That was right there.
You know who's going to appreciate that.
The LGBTQs community, baby.
The LGBTQs are loving that one right there.
I'm OT, baby.
What does that mean?
Original trade.
Oh, I thought you said original top.
You're not an original top?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Come on, now.
Listen, let's talk about Gunna.
Speaking of the gay,
let's talk about Atlanta rap.
I was confused by this whole situation
because I didn't know who Gunna.
I'm like, who's he telling on?
I don't see who he's telling on.
I didn't see that when I watched.
He, he, okay, from what I saw,
And again, I'm assuming because I'm getting so obsessed with these trials,
but I'm assuming that this was all part of the plan because Thug's sister came out and she was like,
why are you even saying that about Gunna?
That's right.
That's not the case.
And I'm assuming that Thug's sister is having conversations with Thug.
Listen, when I saw, yeah, when I saw Gunna do this and then I saw the other guy from YSL plea,
and then I saw Thug in court the next day and it's some evidence that they can't use against him.
You know, I thought to myself, oh, YSL just smarter than everybody else.
That's what I'm looking at.
This is coordinating.
Exactly.
Now, it is an interesting situation because he did admit that YSL was a gang.
He did admit that he said that the guns in the car weren't his, and he was only in the car with thugs.
So that means they, it's alluding to the fact that maybe they're thugs.
I thought they said that they weren't the only two people in the car.
So maybe that was the case as well.
That's the other thing I heard.
It was like they were, it's unclear whether they were the only ones in the car.
Yeah.
So maybe that's the case.
Well, I'm just saying, I like what Duval said, which is don't, don't jump to that
because this all could be part of the master plan.
Yo, it looks like it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I don't, I listen, I'm not going to sit.
I'm not going to sit here and act like a legal expert because I'm not.
But I see all of these people taking pleas, which is the best case scenario.
But the problem, the one problem is the plea deal was incredibly generous.
Well, they didn't really have a case on Gunner, though.
They didn't really have nothing on.
know they could get Rico if he's part of this gang.
Conspiracy, but it's just like, okay, and?
So what, eight months' time served, that's it, nothing else?
Eight months' time served, I think what, probation for four years?
Because it was a five-year sentence with four suspended.
Doesn't that mean you're on parole or probation or something?
Maybe.
And then he got a whole bunch of community service and everything else.
I mean, listen, man, I mean, the best case scenario is those guys plead, they come home,
they keep the YSL movement going.
I don't think that they're going to just let Thug come home.
but I mean Thug might get a way better sentence than he originally was.
You know what I mean?
Thug might do five to 10 or something like that or five to seven.
You know what I mean?
Which is better than fucking 30, 40, 50.
At least you get five to 10.
You know, you'll still be somebody when you come home.
Right.
You know what I mean?
People will still care when you come home.
So I don't know.
I just look at this situation and I'm like, man, we love the label people, man.
And this just don't go back to just gunner.
I think that our needs.
to understand things makes us just label things, which lessons are understanding because we're
not even discussing the actual issue. For example, Elon Musk. I saw two articles this week.
One was in New York Times and it was like, people are saying Elon Musk is a conservative,
but it's not that simple. The Atlantic was like, Elon Musk is a far right activist. And I read
both those articles and I thought to myself, who gives a fuck? And the reason I say who gives a fuck
because we're not discussing the issue. The issue is, is social media out of control?
to social media be regulated.
You know what I mean?
Is social media doing more harm than good right now?
We're not even having that discussion.
What does it matter what Elon Musk's politics are?
What does it matter what Mark Zuckerberg's politics are?
Does it matter?
I think it matters if those politics are influencing the platforms.
Because you want the platforms to remain ideally politically neutral.
And what was exposed from Twitter before is that there are far more Twitter employees
that were left-leaning,
and therefore they were willing to make accommodations
for certain political groups that were left-leaning.
They also did it for right-leaning.
There were just far less employees there
that could make those things happen.
You're right.
So with that said, what do you do?
FCC rules and regulations,
because FCC rules and regulations
are supposed to keep people from being partisan.
Maybe it's possible that Elon Musk is learning
that moderation and regulation
is kind of necessary on a platform like this?
Yes.
Like he kind of went into it going,
we're just going to let free speech rock.
And then all of a sudden they started posting like where he was
and like where his family was.
And then he was like,
all right,
well,
maybe we need to regulate some things.
Maybe we'll moderate something.
So maybe Twitter was a little bit too left-leaning
or a little bit too integrated in government.
It'd be nice if it was a little bit more neutral
and it wasn't,
you know,
hiding certain stories,
et cetera.
Like it did obviously with the Hunter Biden situation.
That being said,
I think we all agree
that a certain amount of moderation
is important. If you even look into freedom of speech, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.
Why can you not? Because you could actually hurt people's lives. So there has always been
limitations on free speech, especially if it's going to protect human life. So it's the biggest
broadcast platform in the world right now is the internet. Yeah. It's social media. It's YouTube.
It's bigger than television. It's bigger than radio. It's bigger than podcast. You have
to regulate it. It should have the same FCC rules and regulation.
that all those other platforms have.
It's too big and it has too much influence
for it not to be.
Simple as that.
So it's like,
but what should the regulation?
Like for me,
I'm a big freedom of speech guy,
especially as it affects,
you know, comedy, right?
And like satire,
this is what I love.
So I want people to be able to make jokes.
I want people to be able to say things.
I think the problem is,
is when you become the arbiter of truth.
That's a sticky situation.
When you take something down
for being fake news,
but the truth or what is real is defined by your political party's opinion, now we get in a shaky
situation.
Well, I think when it comes to that, especially when it comes to the news, man, just, just vet it.
But we're trying to get away from opinion-based news on these traditional platforms.
Here's a perfect example that Duval brought up, right?
Instagram was banning certain accounts and, like, shadow banning people and punishing people
for saying certain things that were viewed as.
bullying because they were unaware of the culture they were coming from.
Right? So when somebody goes, you stupid or this dude dumb, oftentimes it means he's hilarious.
But Instagram was looking at that and just seeing those words and going, oh, you're bullying.
This is a bad account. We need a ban this person or blah, blah, blah. So clearly they're unaware with black
influence and culture, sayings, vernacular. Absolutely. If they don't fix it.
that they essentially make using black slang illegal on the internet.
Absolutely.
That's not fair to black people that want to use black slang or white people don't want to
use black slang.
I agree wholeheartedly.
So my thing is making a cultural illegal.
Instead of having cultural police.
Let's use the system that's already in place.
Which is?
The FCC.
We have a system already in place that has worked for TV and radio all these years.
But it's also dumb down, not dumb down, but it's also made.
TV so neutered.
No, that's us.
That's those cultural police you're talking about.
That's those people who work at Instagram
who are looking at black content and they're like,
no, that's not acceptable.
That's not acceptable.
That's this woke culture.
That's not the FCC.
Because think about it, the FCC didn't change.
Society changed.
Think about what we used to watch in the 90s on television, bro.
Think about what you used to watch on TV in the early 2000s.
That never changed.
It's the way people's sensibilities in culture and society
has changed. Not the FCC. I'd have to look at it.
House Stern was fine until my motherfucker started getting a little too sensitive. And he said,
you know what? I'm going over here. And he was getting canceled, left and right. And he was
getting too many fines. Yeah. But he was using. From the FCC. He was using the words that he
shouldn't have been using. Well, he was playing around it. He was trying to find a way to say
the words that he couldn't say. Absolutely. Yeah, listen, I'd have to look and see what the
regulations are from the FCC because I think one of the reasons why the internet absolutely
explode is because you could put like real pure authentic content out there.
wasn't kind of shackled and neutered by these rules.
Now, it might not only be rules from the FCC, but also from advertisers.
They were maybe terrified.
They're like, I don't want to advertise on this if you're saying a curse word.
I don't want to advertise in this or there's too much nudity.
I don't want to advertise this.
It's too salacious.
And then all of a sudden, the internet has all the salaciousness.
It has all the curse words.
It has all the authenticity.
And then all the eyeballs are going to gravitate towards authenticity.
I agree with that, but I think that's the second step to why the internet exploded.
The first step why the internet exploded is just because the point of entry is nothing.
Yeah, that's true.
You know what I mean?
Convenience.
Anybody can get on the internet.
Anybody can open the YouTube page, social media page.
Anybody can start a podcast.
You can't just get on television.
Well, back in the day, you couldn't just get on television.
You couldn't just get on radio.
You know what I mean?
So the point of entry was nothing.
Yeah.
There's no cover fee.
Yeah.
So it gave everybody a voice.
So then who decides what is okay and what's not okay to say?
Who decides what's the truth and what is not the truth?
Like, it's really tricky, man.
Yeah, the truth thing is tricky because he,
Even news networks play with that, right?
Like everybody got, that's why they're trying to get away from opinion-based news, right?
Because the Foxes, the CNN, the MSNBCs, they just lean to the party.
You know, Fox leans right, MSNBC leans, left, CNN leans, left.
CNN's trying to be more center now, you know, because they have Republicans on as well as Democrats,
but you just got to see what that's going to go.
So it's like the truth is tricky, but everything else you can regulate.
What I mean when I say regulate is you can't just post any story online.
I can't just, you can't, people wonder why certain stories don't reach the main screen because they can't do that.
They're held liable.
They'll get sued.
You can't just report something that's false just because it's the hot topic on YouTube.
You know what I mean?
You got to vet things.
I think it should be the same way on social media.
And we'll be, we had this conversation early this year.
We'll be saving so many broadcasters, bro.
Because you see these broadcasters getting hit with these lawsuits that they're not even ready for.
because in their mind, they're watching other YouTubers do what they're doing.
And so they're like, well, it must be okay because everybody's doing it.
That's true until somebody jumps on your ass and shows you that this is defamation
or shows you why you can't broadcast misinformation like Alex Jones getting hit for a billion dollars.
You can't just get online and spread lies about people.
Well, you shouldn't be.
You can, but you shouldn't be able to is what I'm saying.
Yeah.
And that's where the FCC will come into play.
What is the difference between freedom of speech and a defamation lawsuit?
Why are you allowed, why are you not allowed to defame someone?
Because if it's not true, if it's a lie and a person can sue you for defamation,
and if that defamation causes harm to that person, you know what I mean?
Whether it's financially, whether it's emotionally,
you see people's too for emotional distress, all types of stuff.
Right.
No, I'm not saying that they shouldn't be able to.
I'm just understanding, like, how does it?
is that how did people even in the past handle that limitation on free speech?
I think it's the difference between having an opinion and just straight up lying on somebody.
You know what I mean?
Like you can you can have an opinion and clown somebody, clothes, or, you know, what they look like or what you may think about them.
But, you know, if you be like, and this has happened, you've seen it, oh, that person's gay.
You know what I mean?
Oh, I'm suing you for defamation now.
You know what I mean?
That person's a thief.
That person stole from such and such.
It's like, you can't say that if it's not true.
What's your factual proof?
What's your evidence?
You know what I mean?
You can say allegedly.
Yo, if OJ wanted to,
OJ can sue you for calling him a murder.
If you get on a podcast and something,
you say, OJ Simpson is a murderer.
He committed a murder.
He can sue.
Wow.
Because he didn't get charged for murder.
Yeah, that's true.
That's defamation.
Yeah.
But that's what EFSC rules and regulations
come into play.
And it's not going to make the, people think it's going to make the internet less fun.
No, it's not.
Not at all.
You know what I mean?
I mean, legislation always makes things less fun.
I don't think so.
It just, I think there's a, there's a scale and it's, you know, safety and fun.
You perform in front of large crowds all the time shows.
Yeah.
You ain't never had nobody shut you down for inciting the right.
You ain't never had nobody shut you down for inciting violence.
You ain't called, right.
You never called fire.
You never yelled, fire.
You know what I'm saying?
I've had venues not allow me to perform there because of my material.
That's on them, though.
That's not because of the FCC.
That's because I keep going back to the...
But what if the FCC does that to a human being?
What if SEC comes to this podcast and they go,
hey, you're making these jokes that are insulting to certain groups.
We're going to have to shut you down.
You can't have a platform anymore.
We don't allow this on the internet.
I think the FCC only does that when it's allowed when it's hate speech.
But what's defined his hate speech?
Like a joke to us might be interpreted as hate speech to a group.
That's why freedom of speech is so important is because you can never know what somebody is offended by.
I'm with you.
But once again, we always have this conversation about free speech.
You're not free from the consequences of that speech.
Yeah, I didn't say you're free for the concept.
That's the other thing about the internet.
I think that's why we get upset.
We was having this conversation last night on a hell of a week.
And I'm like, you know, because we had Alice, Alice Stewart on from CNN.
And, you know, she was saying how she hates how these people can hide behind
these cat profiles and say whatever they want.
And I was like, well, they hide behind the cat profile because they're pussy.
But the thing is, that's what I think we get upset about.
Yeah.
Because so you say something that pisses somebody off or insult somebody, they can hold you
accountable.
But these motherfuckers get online and say anything and hide behind these cat profiles.
Yeah.
Who do we hold accountable?
Yeah.
So as Chico said last night, if you want to talk your shit, you got to put a name
with that shit, bro.
An address or something.
Stand on that shit.
That's why I don't respect
a lot of those people
in those spaces.
I respect people
who put a face with that shit
and who got something to lose
and still stand on it.
You know what I mean?
That's when the respect
comes from me.
It's easy to, of course you can sit
at your basement all day
and say whatever about
whoever behind a profile.
That's not gangster.
Why are we respecting that?
I don't respect that.
I kind of like that idea
that Elon wanted to make sure everybody was verified, not necessarily blue check, but like
every account that's on Twitter is attached to a real person.
We need to know who you are.
We need to know who you are.
You can have a satire account.
You can have a account where you make fun and people.
You can do all these things.
But we need to know it's attached to a real person and kind of who that person is because
then it becomes different.
You know, you and I operate in a very different world and that like when we say something
about somebody is going to get back to them.
Immediately.
They know.
They know.
So it's a little bit different than the anonymity
that most people experience on the internet
where they can say whatever they want
about whoever they want
and they never have to do with it.
You're getting DMs, I'm getting DMs
from people that are salty about the things that were said
and we might have to bump into these people.
That's right.
So it's not like we don't deal with the repercussions
for the things we say.
We have to measure whether we want to say some shit
or not every single time.
So there are repercussions for what we say.
Right?
But the average person, yeah, maybe not.
And that kind of freedom,
that must feel good.
but it also could create a very toxic place on the internet.
Man, you ain't lying, y'all.
That's what I'm saying.
There has to be accountability.
That's it.
But isn't it weird that like we're going to be,
we're going to suffer in terms of what we're allowed to say
to fix the problem that is the anonymous people on the internet
what they're saying?
I don't think we're going to suffer shows.
Suffers may as the wrong word.
but we will be inhibited in some way.
There will be certain things that we would like to say
they will be removed from us to solve a problem that isn't us.
It's not caused by us.
I hear what you're saying.
For example, the people that go out to the people that go out to drinking, right?
Let's say there's some alcoholic comes in, drives drunk, kills somebody.
And let's say the state comes in, they go, that's it.
Everybody's only allowed two drinks, right?
And we were like, well, we were only having three drinks.
This motherfucker's having 10 drinks.
Why can't I have three?
Why do all of us have to suffer for one asshole?
But they do have those type of rules, though.
They do?
Yeah.
If you're in a bar, like a bartender has to stop serving you after a certain point.
Because then the bar is held liable.
Like if the bar knows that if they're looking at you and they know that you're drunk and you're saucy,
after why, they got to stop serving you.
Because you get in the car.
That's very rarely happens.
No, I've heard those cases happen often.
No, no, yeah, people get kicked out of bars with being drunk.
But at the same time, like, people are getting drunk.
No, I've heard the bars being held liable.
Yeah, kind of.
I mean.
I'm just saying you can't live in a world where like there's no consequences and repercussions.
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying we don't.
What I'm saying is that we're not the issue.
The issue is those people that are anonymous on the internet.
So maybe if you have an anonymous account that's not attached to anybody,
you have more strict rules in terms of what you can or can't say.
And once you attach that to an actual person and a real account,
then you can have more freedom because we know it's going back to someone.
People are way more willing to say some foul shit if you never know.
know who the fuck they are.
That's right.
So then, yeah, limit their asses.
I don't even know if I care about them as much as I care about the people who pretend to be, like,
broadcasters, like actual sources of news online.
I don't know if I care about, like, the everyday person as much as I care about, like,
the person who pretends to be a news source.
You know what I mean?
But you can twist and turn everything these days.
That's a crazy thing.
That's right.
I don't believe anything that I read.
And that satire shit is dangerous.
I can't believe you okay with that.
You can just make an Andrew Shultz account, get a verified check,
and start tweeting wild shit
and folks will believe it.
Yeah.
You don't want that.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't give a fuck
what nobody say,
we need regulation.
But you know,
we just,
but you know what we just did
for the last 15 minutes?
What's that?
We discussed the issue.
Yeah.
Not the individual.
Yeah.
That's what we discussed.
Let's have a conversation
about the issue.
Yeah.
To your point, yes,
if, you know,
somebody's too far right
or too far left
and they let their politics
lean into these platforms,
that's wrong.
But you wouldn't,
not have that problem if you actually had FCC rules and regulations.
And I don't think nobody ever thought social media and all that shit would get this big.
I don't think that we ever thought that we'd be looking to Twitter and everything else as a big,
as a platform for actual news.
I guess we thought that these traditional outlets like the newspapers and the news organizations
would always sustain their position.
Then we started to realize all these motherfuckers do is reflect what's going on on social media.
Oh, yeah.
That's why I think it's silly to get into politics.
It's like you can affect culture.
the politicians are just going to respond to whatever the culture desires.
That's it.
So if you affect culture, you can affect politics.
But politicians aren't going to dictate the culture to the people.
You know what I'm saying?
Absolutely.
We dictate the culture.
And then they have to react to it.
If we want a certain thing, they're all going to flip-flop on their words and then execute on that specific thing that we want.
In my lifetime, I've only seen one presidential candidate who became president
put his will on the people
and made people lean towards what he was talking about
literally culturally like shift culture.
DT. DT. Yeah. I never, I personally never saw it. I never saw
somebody shift culture with their words
like, like Donald Trump. I didn't, I've never seen it.
You know what I mean? I don't think Obama shifted culture
with his words. I think Obama shifted culture
with his identity because
you know, like his first, like one of his first, like one of
his books was titled, The Audacity of Hope.
It was a change that people really could believe in.
It was like, oh, man, this is what I would want America to be, you know?
This interracial, I mean, this biracial person leading our country, you know, this man who's embracing everyone, it seems.
You know, like, I think that's the idea of that is what people want it.
But as far as, like, culture?
as far as like, this is fake news, you know.
No, that motherfucker destroyed information.
Like, the concept of fake news is quite new.
Like, I don't remember news being fake
before Donald Trump.
Now, I'm sure it was.
It was no one who was calling it out.
Exactly.
He called it out.
And now it's to the point where,
and maybe this is good, that, like,
I have a distrust of all information that I'm consuming.
And maybe this is good because,
Maybe I was blindly believe in some shit
just because it said CNN on it.
Or I was blindly believing some shit
because it said MSNBC.
And now I'm realizing, oh, wow,
they might have a political agenda as well.
Yes.
So maybe we're getting closer to the actual news,
but there is yet to be a news station
that has been propped up
that's like, hey, this is the truth.
What you just said is so true,
but think about that from a social media perspective.
Now it's not about what label is on the information.
It's just simply about,
do you believe this information?
Yeah.
Like if I already have an opinion about something,
all I need is some shit that reinforces it.
That's it.
So I can go on YouTube and find a video.
I can go online and find somebody saying something that reinforces what I say.
So I believe it.
And the truth is always way less interesting.
It's way less exciting.
What do I say all the time?
Nobody cares about the truth when the lies more entertaining.
Yeah.
And the lies are always way better.
The truth is way more boring and like reasonably understandable
when you actually come to it.
But conspiracy is just so much fun.
I would way rather listen to.
conspiracy.
It's just so exciting.
Like, it's incredible.
And that's why I go back to, like this Torian fucking Meg case.
But that's why I go back to labels.
Yeah.
Labels.
We got, people want to label Gona and inform it because of the story.
Yeah.
Gunna rat it on.
Doug.
Yeah.
I can't believe it.
His artist.
You know, the person that he put on just right.
Like, it got to be the story.
So now it's this whole conspiracy.
And that's why when someone.
somebody with common sense like Duval comes in and goes,
hey man,
I don't think y'all should be saying shit, though, thought does.
That's just common sense.
That is, yeah.
And what else I find funny?
The sister can come out and say,
don't call gunna snitch.
The lawyer can come out and say gunned it and snitch.
They can write all these articles saying,
no, that's not how it works.
I had an attorney tell me,
no, I don't even want it, whatever.
But all I'm saying is YSEL seems like they're smarter than everybody.
But all of those people can say these things and people be like,
no, man, no, no, that ain't true.
I was talking with one of my homeboys yesterday.
Not going to say his name.
But he was like,
don't listen to the lawyer.
Listen to me.
Okay.
But that's everybody's mentality.
Yeah.
The lawyer's wrong.
Yeah.
All right.
Which lawyer?
The guy who keeps going to.
Oh, Gunn's lawyer.
The lawyer posted his statement.
It was like he didn't snitch.
Like, his testimony can't even be used to cause.
I forgot what it way.
I might be biscuit-trud.
But with Megan Tori.
Yeah.
There's a perfect.
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What?
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Okay.
All right, we can pay some bills
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Damn, Taylor, why you're so angry?
She thinks she's producing.
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Me neither, bro.
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Yeah, I'm going away at the end of the month.
Where are you going?
I'll tell you when I get back
Oh it's like that
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Yeah
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I'll be going to 26 to the third.
Okay.
I'll be going to 26 to the third.
I will say, though, thank you for a great year.
You know what I mean?
Thank you to everybody who's been supporting, you know,
all the projects that we've been putting out this year, man.
You know, SBAH Productions, you know,
me and Kevin Hart's company with Audible,
we put out two projects, finding Tamika and some of 85.
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Some of 85 was named the best, the best, what was it, Chris?
Best history
Best history podcast of the year
for Audible
And Finding Temeca was named
Best True Crime Podcasts for Audible
Which is huge
Because True Crime is like
The biggest genre going right now
And Finder Temeca was labeled
The number one
And a variety just named
Finding Tumika
The number five
Audible
Story of the year
Period
You know
So thank you for supporting
Both those projects
Thank you for buying
Tamika Mallory
State of Emergency
How to Win
Did that book come out?
Yeah, the paperback came out this year.
The hardcover came out last year.
Paperback came out this year.
Well, what do you say?
Anita Copack, shallow waters.
Amazing.
Thank you for supporting that as well.
We have a lot.
We have a lot more books coming out through Black Privilege, Publishing, Simon, and Shoots
to next year.
So just thank you, man.
Thank you to everybody who watched hell of a week this year.
When you're putting a Dr. Umar book out?
Dr. Umar?
Umar. Oumar got books out.
No, but you putting it out.
Um, I don't know if that would go with Dr.
Humah's thing.
Why not?
He was all about independence.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is black privileged publishing.
I mean, yeah, but he's all about independence.
And I mean, he's been self-publishing so far.
It's like, you know, why stop?
That's been working for him.
You know what I think.
I think if you're a self-publisher and you've been self-publishing your books
and they've been selling, you know, why I get with a publisher?
Unless you just want, like, maybe wider distribution, maybe.
Maybe.
You know?
Yeah.
Maybe.
Maybe.
So, Big and Tori.
your thoughts?
I mean, I'm just so fascinated by the case.
Tell me why.
Because both of them seem to be 100% convinced of their own stories.
Isn't that how it always is, though?
You don't go to trial, prosecution and defense.
You don't go there like, okay, I might have been it, Judge.
Yeah, but I think what's happening here is, like, we've seen them outside of court for so long.
Usually there's, like, a shooting or something that people go to court.
It's quickly after, or at least in the next few months.
we've seen like this is it feels like years like how long ago was that shooting
three years ago so we put out 15 fucking albums made music videos you know
megs won awards and all that kind of shit and they're both saying completely opposite things
happened and now you look at the first few days of the court case and all these things that
we thought happened we're being told that they did not happen we're finding out
that everybody's having sex with everybody which has nothing which has nothing to
to do with the case. No, but it's awesome. I don't even
understand why that's in the case. I don't
care. It's great. It's great story.
It does matter if you're trying
to imply that there
was a jealous rage that caused certain
behavior and incited the incident.
But you got to name multiple things?
Can't you just name one? I mean, it's
so much better when you find out that she was just getting
split open by everybody.
I mean,
is that true? It's most people, guys,
right? Like,
they just... Is it true?
That's what I heard.
I heard Sesame Street also ran up in it, big dirt.
She did say, now she did say her boyfriend was embarrassed, so I guess I don't know, man.
I just don't think that has nothing to do with the case, but you know what, though?
She should have nipped that in the bud.
There's an hilarious picture of party.
It's partisan potts.
Yeah, my guy, party.
There's a hilarious picture because he got a picture with his shirt off and he has a feminist tattoo.
Have you seen that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he got to take these dicks.
You know what I mean?
Like, he can't be angry at it.
Like, is her body, her choice?
You know what you mean?
Like, you got to support a woman doing what she wants with her body.
But even if you, outside a party in Meg, even if you knew about your significant other people,
I don't want to know about that shit, though.
I don't want to know about that.
You could live with it.
Like, if you knew your girl's body child, you probably could live with it, but you wouldn't want the world to know.
I don't know about any bad shit.
I'm too insecure for that.
So you don't know.
That's honest, though.
Yeah.
I'm honest.
That's honest.
No, no, no, no.
So you wouldn't want to know.
I don't want to know.
You don't want to know.
You don't want to know your girl's body count.
Bro, if I was supporting my girl...
You might need to know, bro.
I don't want to know about it, bro.
What if you let another comedian hit?
I don't want to know about it, bro.
No, you got to know about it.
You got to know, bro.
I don't want to know about it.
You got to know, because if I stopped making jokes about smashing other comedians' girls,
you might have to run down on him to watch his fucking mouth.
I don't want to know about it.
Keep your wife's name out about your fucking mouth.
No, you seem even more insecure when you do that.
I don't want to know about it.
I don't want to know anything about it.
None.
That's interesting.
I mean, do you want to know about it?
I mean, listen, ignorance is bliss.
That's why they say ignorance is bliss.
Right.
Because when you don't know, you're happy.
That's what I'm fucking saying.
I'm with you.
I don't know.
You want to know the radio personality
hooked up with your wife?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I really don't.
I don't know if I would want that information.
I really truly do not know.
I know that information ain't necessary for court, though.
It might be.
You want to bring out all the bullshit
that you possibly can.
It almost feels like.
they were just trying to make her out to be like a shady character in the eyes of the jury.
You know what I mean?
As if, you know, a woman sleeping with a bunch of guys makes her shady, you know what I mean?
That's what I thought.
Well, why were they bringing it up?
I don't know.
That's my point.
Well, I think that part of the fact was that Tori was sleeping with Kelsey and Megan, right?
I do not know.
And I think that, oh, actually, no, there is a reason.
Wasn't Kelsey also sleeping with the baby?
I have no idea.
Where are you getting it from?
weren't they?
She was.
Rumored to be sleeping
with DeBaby.
So what they're trying...
What the baby got to do with it?
Well, Meg was also sleeping
with DeBaby.
So what they're trying to imply is that Meg stole
DeBaby from Kelsey,
stole Tori from Kelsey,
stole all these dicks from Kelsey.
And there's a reason why
Kelsey would have so much animosity towards her
that she might shoot her.
Because the defense's argument
is that Kelsey was the one the shot.
Oh, I got you.
I got you.
Now, Kelsey is not, what is it
being charged.
I don't know, man.
The way that she's going,
she might get a perjury charge.
No, she's got immunity.
She's there what the fuck she likes that?
No, she don't.
They told her on the stand.
They said immunity don't mean you can get up here and lie.
They told her that.
Wait, really?
Yes, they told her immunity.
They reminded her in court that immunity does not mean you can get up here and just lie.
Well, she said a bunch of things that she already lied about.
She admitted to lying, right?
In her original statement.
But they're using that evidence now.
They're using which evidence?
She's saying that it didn't happen.
The original statement that she made that she said didn't happen, they say they can use that now.
Even though she's saying it didn't happen.
Yep.
Well, that seems flimsy.
I don't know, man.
You think, what do you think happen?
I have no idea.
And I think that's the problem.
I've been saying from the beginning, sometimes you just got to let things play out.
Like, once again, everybody wants to be a lawyer.
Everybody wants to be a detective.
Everybody wants to be a private investigator.
This shit has been playing out in the court of public opinion for two years.
You know what's so interesting?
Literally.
But two years.
What's so interesting about this case is that
Tori doesn't need to prove that he didn't do it.
He just needs to create a shadow of doubt that it wasn't him.
So he just needs the jurors to go,
well, maybe it was Kelsey.
He don't need to prove Kelsey did it.
He just needs them to think maybe it was her.
That's possible if you both in the car,
the residue's on both of you.
Meg didn't see who shot her.
She's assuming.
No, Magne did.
That's the thing that people keep forgetting, right?
What?
Meg is the victim here.
Meg said, he did it.
I saw him do it.
It's kind of hard to be the-
It's upset.
Maybe she's super jealous.
Maybe she's too.
Yeah, but maybe she's jealous because he was risen up Kylie.
Kylie, too?
You didn't know that he was brisen her up in the pool?
What is bris-in?
Hold on now.
What is bris-old?
I'm old.
What is brithing me?
What is Bris and mean now before we continue
Now I feel like the Instagram people
What the fuck kind of code
What kind of words are y'all you use?
That's why you gotta shut this shit down
You didn't know Tori's the Rizinator, bro?
What is Bris?
No, Tori is the Rizinator
What is Riz mean, bro?
Not Brizz. Riz.
Riz, what is Rizan mean?
He was Rizzing her up.
He was kicking that game.
Oh, trying to talk to her.
Dude, yeah, he had Kylie Moist.
No, I don't be invested in this.
in the pool kicking crazy Riz to Kylie.
Yo, he was.
All I know is.
He got the pool floaties on and everything.
He's kicking crazy game with the pool floaties to Kylie.
And then Meg the Stalin was going berserk.
She was bucket, bro.
He said what in the song, Taylor?
About Kylie, how he's.
What's the song?
It was like that makes tape he put out during the pandemic.
What's the name of the song?
We got to stop doing it.
I need to hear this.
Okay.
What do you mean?
I need to hear it.
Why do you need to hear it?
I just see things online.
You don't think the girls get jealous when you just risen up another chair.
So he made a song called Derrissa.
No.
And he was risen don't car.
I don't believe that stupid shit.
But no.
I don't believe that.
You think that you could withstand Tori's risk?
Oh, my God.
Do you think that you could withstand his wrist?
That's his corny's father.
Whoa, whoa.
What do you mean?
Were you in a pool?
No.
Now, out of everything that's been said about Tori this week, that's the most defamation I've heard.
Tori did not try to holl at you.
Whoa.
When he came to the show.
Yeah.
First time, yes.
How did he try to hollis?
He just came up to me.
He was just trying to say something like me.
I'm suing you if I'm Tori.
Allegedly.
It's not a, why?
This young lady from Lower Darby on here talking about Tori tried to shoot game at her.
That's crazy.
That's wild.
Wait a minute, but what was his?
Because I need to learn some of this Riz because this Riz.
This Riz had Meg the Stalian going absolutely berserk.
Yo, was your Riz?
back in the day nice or what? Could you
Riz a girl up? Never.
Never had good risk? Never had good. Never.
That shit would, I didn't even know
where to begin. Quoting rap lyrics and shit.
What would you quote? What was your go-to?
I bomb atomically.
Nah.
You would have Biggie said.
You wouldn't walk up to a girl. I asked it, what's your name?
What's your sign? You know what I mean?
That's what Biggie said.
That's what Biggie said, bro.
We say, we gay, bro. You know what I'm saying?
We game. You know what I'm saying?
It is what it is.
Sometimes you just got to be gay with it, bro.
The track is called Queen and Slim.
Queen and Slim.
Okay.
It goes, me and Kylie still off in the pool.
We was chilling, kicking shit was cool.
Both of us didn't know you was tripping.
Even though I got crushed from Kylie, I would have left with you if I knew you was
sipping for the same.
I know they used Nant-in-Court.
Also, I saw them use...
Why?
He's saying.
Because you know what happened.
But I know they used Nancourt because it proves it.
They also said that they're using one of his comments that he left on Instagram
where he said, what's the girl name?
Kelsey.
Kelsey didn't do it.
Somebody said Kelsey shot and he was like,
nah, she did not.
So it's like,
yo,
once again,
the court of public opinion.
But how do we know
that Kelsey isn't riszed up right now?
She's in a state of Riz.
What do you mean?
Oh,
no,
but no,
to your point,
the lawyer did say that.
The lawyer said that it's obvious
she's been compromised in some way.
By the Riz,
bro.
So they said either she's scared
or she's been bribed.
Or what's the other one?
What's the one other thing
that could possibly be happened?
But that's all Riz.
Thank you.
That's all.
You know Tori got a master's in risenometry, right?
It seems like it.
So maybe she's up on, maybe she's up on the stand and she's saying these things,
but she's also getting riszed up by Tori who's in the courthouse.
She hasn't seen this guy in fucking two years.
So what do you think happens?
This is a tricky one, man.
This is a fucking tricky one.
I think that, I think Tori was risen a fuck out of Kylie, right?
Megan starts to get super jealous
leaves the party
okay
I'd ask you no no
I say what do you think happens
not what do you think happened
what do you think happens in this court case
I don't care about this
come on man
how do you think this court case
ends see how I just
I just riszed you up
you got wrist
I got ridst up you got called it in my wrist
no I so called it my wrist
you even have to stop yourself
Like, oh shit.
Like, what's happening?
I'm getting colonoscopy again.
Like, you had no clue what was happening.
You don't want me to tell you exactly what happened that night.
Allegedly?
Allegedly.
No, I don't.
Tori, risen.
Okay.
Okay.
He's risen.
Kiley.
He's doing all sorts of, like, breaststroke, all different strokes.
He's like, I'm such a good swimmer, blah, blah, blah.
Kylie can barely control herself.
Okay.
Megan sees this happening.
Furious.
You also have to remember all of the things.
this ends in her getting shot.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Exactly.
That's not true.
What you mean?
She didn't get shot.
She absolutely got shot.
She has bullet fragments that were in her foot that have gone missing somehow.
The doctor already confirmed it.
No, it didn't.
The doctor already confirmed it.
Like, even the defense says she got shot.
Well, what is shot?
Bullet fragments?
She got shot.
They said there's still metal in her feet right now.
But what if this man is about to go away for years for something he didn't do?
So the joke should be on him.
The joke is on him.
I'm saying he's in a pool with floaties in the shallow end.
Like I'm not joking about him too.
What are you saying?
He's in the four feet and with floaties on.
I don't want to talk about this.
I don't know.
You want to talk about this thing.
You know what I mean?
That is so crazy about this.
I hope that whatever happens in this trial happens.
I hope that justice is served.
Oh, come on.
You're really crazy, bro.
You're genuinely crazy for not wanting to talk more about this.
I bet I can make you talk about it if I've bridged you up real quick.
This guy is so crazy.
You're a little sweatsuit.
One thing about Andrew.
How do you risen?
When Andrew commits to a role, he commits.
Andrew started this podcast off and said, I'm gay.
He is not letting you off the gay.
Come on, dude.
Yo, listen, I'm not gay.
No, you already committed.
You got to be gay until next week.
Next week you can play another character.
I'm homosexual, bro.
Gay means happy.
You are gay.
Today you are anus loving Andy.
Oh, oh, I love anus.
I love anus, but I'm not gay.
Okay.
I love anus.
I can see that.
I'm homosexual.
But I'm not gay about it.
You know what I'm just, I'm homosexual.
So what do you identify as?
Say what do you identify us?
The Rizinator.
The Rizzenator, baby.
Yeah.
Add another one.
D1,000.
I'll break your back.
Oh, that's not, you know it's so great,
that's not like a gay vibrator.
That's what I'm talking about.
You plug it up to the wall.
And then just back.
Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
Move out the way.
That's what you're saying to your organs.
Oh, man.
She's so stupid, man.
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Yes, Duval tweeted, if you can't afford to work for free for some years, then the entertainment business is not what you want to be in. Go to school or learn a trade. Thoughts, Andrew Schultz.
Absolutely. Absolutely. The more desirable the industry, the more you're, the longer you're going to have to work for free. Simple as that. Like, I mean, you don't have to work for free if you work at McDonald's at all. You just start working immediately. Because it's not as desired to work there. Now, it's not to say it's not an honorable profession. But if you want to be an entertainment, which is a far more desired field, you're going to have to put years of free work into. I did that shit with stand-up. I'm sure you did, you know, close to that with radio. Come on now. Of course. You know,
I mean, that's why I agree with Duvall wholeheartedly.
I think that you have to recognize the opportunity when it's not a paycheck attached to it.
But one thing I'm hearing when I talk to these young ins, you know, they're saying things like, you know, even if it's not for free, we need to be having a livable wage.
And I think that's where they mess up at because they have these entry-level positions in the entertainment business and they want a livable wage for it.
No, you know what else I had when I was young on to come up?
at like three gigs.
I did telemarketing.
I worked at a clothing store in the mall
and I was working part-time
at the radio station.
There's never been a moment in my life
where I only had one gig.
Even now, I don't just have one gig.
Or live at home if you can.
Like if you have parents
that will support your dream.
Live at home.
That's what so many people are able to do.
Not everybody's able to do it
because if you need to move to Los Angeles
or New York,
whatever to pursue your career,
it's hard.
But if you can pursue that career
and entertainment from home,
stay the fuck home.
And I talk about,
this in my first book, man, but there's 168 hours in a week. That is more than enough time
to pursue your dream, but also deal with your reality. The reality is you're probably
going to have bills to pay. The reality is, you know, you're going to probably have rent and stuff
to pay. So find other gigs to supplement that income while you're pursuing your dream.
Like, I don't know who told people that you got to spend every waking minute, every waking hour,
you know, pursuing your dream. Now, I think this conversation stem from,
Glorilla because she got backlash for saying that she has a personal assistant job salary of $5.50 per week.
I think the math when you do it is like $28,500 something a year.
It just depends on what you're asking this assistant to do.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, they're a full-time assistant.
Are they part-time assistant?
That's right.
They have to travel with you.
That's right.
I mean, yeah, there's a lot of different things.
Also, like, maybe that's what she can afford.
I think a lot of times we assume that people in music are making a lot of money.
And a lot of these people are not making a lot of money.
So they're incredibly busy because they have all these events that they have to go to
and they have to live this lifestyle that we perceive as someone who's this multi-millionaire.
But a lot of them are not making that much money at all.
And for her to come out of pocket $5.50, you know, a week, that's probably the most she could spend on something like that.
I've always been told I overpay.
Hmm.
You know what I'm saying?
I've always been told that I overpay for, you know, certain positions.
Like, you know, this is apparently what assistance should be making.
That's not.
I don't think so.
No, no, I think assistance generally make between like 50 and 70,000 off here.
That's where I was at with it.
Executive assistants make over 100 that can make up to $200,000.
But executive assistants are with the person all day, every day.
Executive is more of with business shit.
Yes, yes, yes.
So, I mean, listen, man.
And that's the other thing.
People say, well, you know, y'all generation struggled.
Y'all just want us to struggle.
No, motherfuckers.
We're just telling you all the reality of the situation.
Also, don't do it.
You don't got to be in this business.
The thing that people are forgetting you to do it for the price you want.
You know the thing that DuBalt said in this tweet that people forget about?
If not, go get a trade or something.
Exactly.
Go learn a trade.
Also, 550 is what you start at, right?
Like, if you come in the business and you prove that you're helping her make $2,000 a week for the $5.50 that she's paying you,
you don't think it's easy for her to give you a raise.
You're going to be up to $1,000 in no time.
right? Because it's like, wow, you're providing $2,000 of income for the $5.50 that I'm paying you.
So go there, prove yourself, and then get more money.
You're right. And I also wanted it too, man.
And maybe this was just our generation because we didn't know no better.
I was never thinking about money.
Yeah.
I just wanted the opportunity.
Everything else I could figure out.
Like when I finally moved out of my mama house because of the no scrubs on,
when TLC made no scrubs, you know,
and I realized, like, I cannot be the person still living at home with their mama.
And I started doing radio in Columbia, South Carolina.
I was making $6 an hour.
I moved to Columbia, South Carolina.
My mama, thankfully, let me get a mattress.
You know what I mean?
Back then, I think rent might have been, like, $550 in Columbia, South Carolina,
or something like that.
I had a mattress and a small-ass TV on the floor.
But I didn't care.
And I wasn't promised a full-time job at all.
What Chris Connors told me at Hot 103-9 then was I could,
I could do hours.
I could come in every night
and do these four hourly hours
at $6 an hour, $8 an hour,
whatever it was.
And I just figured it out.
To be honest,
which, y'all don't know how I survived.
Back then.
But that wasn't my mindset.
My mindset wasn't,
oh, we need, I got to make money,
I got to make money.
I just want the opportunity
to be heard.
Because I believe in myself that much.
And I know eventually
all of this shit is going to pay off.
I mean, when you play a sport,
you don't get paid at all.
until you're professional
and you dedicate your entire life to it.
You actually pay to be part of these leagues
that you're in your pay
to be part of these camps
that you go to to get better.
Like, you are paying money
and the reason you're willing to pay money
is because it's so exclusive
to be professional in that sport.
I think the difference people will tell you
is though most of those people
when they're in college,
they got room and bored,
they're getting taken care of.
I'm saying before college.
I'm saying when your parents
are paying for you to go to camps
every single summer since you're fucking eight years old,
like I'm saying when you're investing
in these trainers,
you're investing in these different programs.
You're investing so much into this career that you hope pans out and you can make tons of money.
The more desirable the career, the more that you're going to have to invest in it in order to be part of it.
I agree with you.
But you're also speaking about people from a certain class and background because there's people that like put out of poor and disenfranchise
who the only reason they're even getting that opportunity to be taking care of in that way is because of their extreme athletic ability.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but they're investing their time.
They're interning.
That's true.
want something bad enough and it's an exclusive enough industry, you're going to have to work for free.
You're just going to have to.
Forgetting something that I feel like because now we have Instagram and everyone wants to
flex now.
Who fault is that?
No, but I'm just saying, though, that's why people care.
I feel like more about the money.
They see all these other people flexing with what they got, all these materialistic stuff.
They want to have that.
Like, they want to show off.
I think that's part of it.
But I also think it's the LLC generation.
It's the, it's the I own 100% or nothing and I know my worth.
I think it's that that mentality too.
Like that it's like you own 100% of nothing and you know your worth.
So you, how dare you feed?
How dare you work for free?
You above working for free.
Are you above working for, you know, what you call not a livable wage?
Yeah.
My advice to all of y'all is there's 168 hours in a week.
That's more than enough time to chase your dream and deal with your reality.
Okay.
Get other jobs to supplement your income.
And when people come to me and they say things like,
I shouldn't have to work more than one job.
Well, you practice some bad habits.
Yeah.
Because I was always taught that you got to have six to seven different sources of income.
You know what I'm saying?
And if you're the boss that you say you are,
even when you create those six to seven different sources of income,
you're still working for yourself.
Yeah.
So you have to have more than one job.
Yeah.
And you have to have more than one job depending on what you want out of life.
Like there are tons of people who work one job
and then want to spend the most of their time in nature.
they want to go camping, they want to go hunting.
They actually want a job that gives as much free time as possible.
So that's also, it depends on what you want.
If you want to be a millionaire, buddy, no one's going to hand you a million dollars.
You don't have to work for it.
If you want something else, then maybe you can't have that one job.
These are all your choices.
It's all about choice.
Yeah.
I will say this, though.
What?
We got to wrap this podcast up.
Yeah, we got to wrap this podcast up because we're taping at WTF and Alex is kicking
us the fuck out.
This is fucked up.
That is fucked up.
Because in a lot of ways,
we built this studio, bro.
Damn, bro.
I'm just saying, Alex.
It should be some type of,
like, preferential treatment or something.
That's a little bit, you know what I mean?
They get thrown around like it's nothing.
No, the idiot's just here, bro.
And do you guys give them a 15-minute great experience or something?
You know what I mean?
Yo, that is a good ass point.
Just a little bit.
Like, I know y'all got a 12 schedule.
You would think, you would think, wow.
That a black business would support, you know, two black creators.
I think so.
I think so.
But I guess not, bro.
He like, get the fuck out.
Yeah.
But we do have the new billionaire studio opening, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And in the top of the year.
Excited about that.
That's right.
We'll never get kicked out of our studio.
We will never, and we would never kick you out, Alex.
Yeah, we're not going to kick you on our studio, bro.
We would never kick you out of shaking my head studios when we open it.
Shaking my head in January.
I appreciate that, guys.
But I also appreciate you being here as well.
Who you got coming up, though?
I need to know you kicking us out for.
I don't know, actually.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
Wow.
I don't know.
That's crazy.
It's just like so many people kind of.
Oh shit.
You hit at Flex.
Big Snit.
We'll be back next week, though.
I mean, I'm done for the year, but I just.
We got one more in us, guys.
Yeah, we got one more in us for the year.
We got one more in us.
And disconnecting, man.
We're going out with a bang.
As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart.
You think we're intelligent.
You think we're brilliant.
You're absolutely right.
But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know
shit, you're right, too.
It's the brilliant idiot's podcast.
Thank you for listening.
Peace.
