The Brilliant Idiots - Scarfs & Hip Hop (Feat. Wayno and Nyla Symone)

Episode Date: December 13, 2019

This week Chalamange is joined by Wayno and Nyla Symone and they discuss, Nick Canon Vs Eminem, Top rappes of the decade, Kanye West, Lizzo's oufit, RIP Juice Wrld, and more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Got a couple of my favorite folk in here right now. My man representing Harlem, you know. He got an A&R deal. Who you're A&R for? Asylum Records. Asylum Records. You know what I mean? He's still on an everyday struggle arguing with academics,

but not telling academics anything about any dieting tips. Act getting too big, bro. Wayno. At getting too big. He said he's going to try. the top of the year, he's going to get himself together. That's what everybody says at the top of the year, they're going to get in shape. I know, man.

Yo, Act is getting too big. And, Act, I ain't talked to Ack in a minute, but it's like, Act, you're getting too much money, I believe, and his status is rising too much. Yeah. But you just to let yourself go like that. I fuck with him all the time, brother. Damn.

Yeah, he got to get it together. He definitely got to get it together. Because after why people stop, they stop caring about your opinions because you don't even look like you got your own shit together. Who were you to talk to me when you got a stomach like that? Like, he'd be resting his hands on his stomach. I'm like, stop, bro. No, he really do, man.

He really do. And DJ Naila Simone is here. Yes, yes. What's up, Naila? How are you? Everything is good, man. I bought Waino in because Waino was saying that Nick Cannon has put out two of the top five disc records of the past decade. What?

I didn't say that shit. You didn't say that? It's not. There's no truth to that at all? No truth to that at all. Can I ask you all a question? Mm-hmm. Where did Eminem get this reputation that he was like some guy that lyrically is not to be fucked with?

Like he'll cut your head off in a battle. Like who is he going toe to toe with to get that reputation? Eight mile. It's got to be eight mile. No, I'm dead serious. I think it's eight mile, yo. But let's not act like M can't rap. But at the same time, I think that he does get a little bit too much.

Like, people act like he's untouchable. Like, nobody can say nothing about him. Yes. Well, I think the machine gun, Kelly, like, beef or rat battle thing was a big deal to a lot of people. M&M. I say that. I like MGK disc record better than I, like, kill shot or whatever M joint was called. And if you look at Eminem's history, because I saw when 50 posted about how, I don't know why anybody would go at Nick, I mean, go at Eminem.

You know, anybody that goes at Eminem will automatically lose yada, yada, yada, yada. Oh, here goes. He says, I don't understand to save my life why someone would pick a fight with him. a different kind of animal. I haven't seen a motherfucker come close to beating him, man. Hey Nick, that shit was trash. I ought to kick you in your ass

when I see you, punk. I don't see who Eminem is gone at. No, but you know what? That's another thing. It's like, even that whole, remember the, what was that, Renegade? That's, now I started that, man. Eminem verse is not better

than Jayverse on Renegade. Like, if you're talking about in context of what they're talking about, what you relate to, I don't know anybody that relates to. That's a dope verse, but now I started that whole shit. like M killed you on your own shit

You know what I mean? Like I don't... Em did black on that right. He blacked on it But I'm just saying They brought the level of perception up Way higher than what it actually was Listen to that shit today.

Don't sound the same. Me personally, I don't think J-bodied M on that verse. I like M-vers better And I think that people think that M is like a crazy battle rapper Because of how he raps. He talked like when he rap is mad aggressive It's mad like oh I kill you

And I did this to my mom like It's mad like violent and like detailed shit. So I think that's why he has that perception. But I don't, I'm like highly disagree with that Jay Z did better than M. I like, I like J. Crazy. Wend crazy.

Motherfuckers say that I'm foolish. I only talk about Jews. Do you fools? Listen to music or do you just skim through it? See, I'm influenced by the ghetto. You ruined. The same dude you gave nothing. I made something to it.

I know it. I know it. But I'm just saying, I think, I think J verse was good. And Jay's verse message wise. It's phenomenal. Jay's verse message wise. Amazing. You cannot stress to me

I wasn't grown, especially when I brought something home to quiet, the stomach rumbulling. Like, I mean, and M's verse is fire, but I'm just saying I think that the perception was just brought up that nobody can have a better verse than him ever. When you rap with him. Yeah.

At that time, I was 18 when that shit happened. That perception was crazy on weight. I didn't even get hip to that song to... A couple years ago. That's because you 10. You're 10, Naila. Listen, I think Eminem is a phenomenal lyricist. I just don't understand when 50 cents says,

I've never seen a motherfucker come close to beating him. Who has he been in the ring with? The greatest lyricist that he's ever sparred against was cannabis. And cannabis wasn't even in his prime at the time he was going against him. Other than that, they jumped Jaroo. They jumped Jaro. Benzino was on the island all of myself. Come on, man.

The whole Interscope jumped Jaroal. Zino lyrically wasn't getting with M on no level. everybody else has been pop stars like who is he gone at to get that type of reputation 50 can have that type of reputation 50 is a dude you don't want to go against in a battle

No the thing with 50 is that he'll embarrass you Now if you talk about like a battle With him like words It's not a lot that he's won with words He's one with other shit He didn't beat Jada kiss and styles When they made problem child When they went back and forth

That's what I'm saying Or checkmate If you compare in their lyrics he don't win a lot of battles, but if you compare all the shit that 50 does around his battle, absolutely. Yo, problem child is such a slept-on dish record. What? When he said some shit like,

Ra-Kam don't respect you, stay in your place, you're big with a spit in your face. He said as soon as we bump heads since you like having people with you get you a hospital with bunk bags. Yeah, that was stupid. That was crazy. But even still, 50 at least has bodied some. Absolutely.

Back down was a dope-ass dish record. I smell pussy was a dope-bass dish record. Like, they at least bodied, you know, murder ink with lyrics. I haven't seen them do that to nobody. Am not. This is why I don't understand why is it not cool

that says you like MGK this. You should just, yo, because M fans are just crazy, right? I think a lot of times people can't separate money, power, and status from just skill set. So being that Eminem is

the way bigger artists and it sold way more records and got way more fame and attention. You're not even supposed to give a guy like MGK a shot, which is ridiculous. Yeah. Because when you look at, you know, even the 50 cent Jai Roo battle, 50 wasn't on Jai level.

He wasn't. Jai was the biggest rapper in the world. He was. When 50 started throwing them shots. He saw him on every time he dropped. Three, four million. So with 50 to come out and start putting out those mixtapes in those songs,

we were paying attention to his skill set. Maybe because of the backing he had. I don't know. I mean, I think he was attracted to the story, too. How many this songs has Eminem done anyway? He's done a lot. Really? But I don't consider it.

When he says a person He hasn't done a lot of real disson. He hasn't done a lot of real disson. I remember the Michael Jackson one. Like the Mariah Carey. Like they're not like, those are like mad, personal and very animated. Those aren't like real bar for bar trying to come at somebody. Like Mariah care.

How is she supposed to defend herself? Mariah body them though. Why are you so upset with me? Mariah body. But you're saying it's like in a lyrical, like that was lyrics. You're listening. You're wearing man by his enemies. You know what I mean?

You definitely weigh a man by his enemies. Explain that. Like in these type of battles, in these situations, right? Like, it's like, okay, it's almost like sports. Who did you go up against? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was on that court with you that was giving you the bucket same time you was giving them bucket?

If we look at based on that, then who did he really battle for it? That's my whole point. I don't understand why people act like they're so scared to get in the ring with Eminem. Like Eminem has, he's dope. But he's not unfuck-wittable. Did you like the last album? I've never liked Eminem.

Eminem's music like that. Really? Well, I got three. I don't know front. I got like three. Now, I got like three. Eminem got like three really good albums. I think Eminem can wrap his ass off.

I don't feel any of it. I can't relate to none of that shit Eminem is kicking. I feel that, but everything, all music ain't always relatable. I don't want to kill my mom. I ain't never want to kill my baby mom. I can't relate to none of that shit he'd be talking about.

Marshall Madden is Elp. Marshall Madden is his second album. His first album and second album is Fire and Encore, those three. And I ain't going to lie. That dream was hard. I haven't listened to it since I heard it. I wasn't into Cosmikaze.

That's why I had act. Kamakazi was dope. He was rapping on that shit. That's the only thing I say he was. But it was just like, why am I listening to this? Em, don't got no soul. Like, that's how I felt. His music don't got no soul no more.

I think he stays in the house too much. And I think that's why he's still rapping about Nick Cannon and Mariah Carey. Yo, did you see the video that Nick Cannon posted with a dude? He said, bro, he said, you were a multi-millionaire, big artist. we'd never seen you with a woman before. He's like, we ain't never caught you on TMZ with a chick ever in life. Because he don't lead a house? Eminem got a big ass of state somewhere in Detroit.

Like, why would you lead a house? Why would you leave a house? And you could tell in his music because his references be like kind of old. And like even on this record, like he dissing Nick Ken and he dissed Mariah Carey because in his mind, he still think people on that. Remember back in the day when you had to wait until the CD came out to hear him or on the door he fly? That's where Emma is at with it. What do you hand to me, Taylor?

Can we? Which one we plan? Let me see. I know me and Mariah didn't end on a high note. But that other dude's whip That piece of got him neutered. Try to tell him this chick's a nut job For he got his jewels clip.

Almost got my caboose kick. Food quit. You're not going to do this. I let her chop my balls off too For I lost it, you Nick. Hey, yeah, yeah. It's just a lot of words. It's just a lot of words.

Like, it's just a lot of words. Yeah. Man, why has all the Nick Canada got all these disc records? How many Nick got? Now, do you see the dislikes on his disc? The dislike ratio to like ratio is... He got like probably 300K dislikes and maybe 50K likes, like. Let me see. Which one is this?

But that's just M-CEN. Somebody get Haley and that other kid you raising that ain't even your baby. Cool line. This might get a Grammy. We going back to back to you respond on the family. Baby mama killed you off a decade ago. Yep. Criying about it, bitch.

I like that I called Joe to set you up and you fell for the job Slim on show for the video Cause he tear five to my squad I heard your show forgot a video You suck in the eyes Okay

Before that you have me The new pock Ain't no killer but don't push me How the fuck y'all got me battling Elvis Puzzle That's one of the worst lines Ever in the history How y'all got me back

Elvis Pustley is terrible Nick Before that you had me With the show first shit But even that is kind of whack Because I'm like yo Gay gotta stop being an insult You know what I'm saying? If the man want to let his chauffeur suck him off

Or he's sucking his chauffeur, allegedly. Who gives a fuck? I'm serious. I forget Wayne off from Harlem. He wanted to pause that whole conversation. That went crazy. I'm just saying gay shouldn't be an insult no more. It's not.

I mean, it's... I think it is to the older generation. It depends on how you word it. How do you word that night? He was giving a loving fallacious to his chauffeur. I think that this disc would have had way more, it would have been way more effective

if they would have did it on some wild-and-out style shit, if they just did it on some a cappella shit with them just rapping and taking turns, then them having an actual beat and the Shug Night drop and all that. If they would have just put out a video as opposed to a record. That's my biggest problem with the Nick Cannon

this. It's too dark. Yeah. Why are you so tough, Nick? Like, you got Shug Night talking from jail. Like, it's not, none of that is necessary, my brother. Like, none of that. Yeah, it's not.

Have fun. I would have did it over Gigolo. Right. I'm serious. Or some joking shit. Like, you. He was a whole, like some joking shit. Drop Jigolo merch right after.

I'm not going to lie. That's the new way to this people. That's a new way to this people. I did like this one, though. This was slick. You used to be in a position to talk to kids and they listen. Now you a politician. You voted for Trump bitch admitted.

They used to call you a menace in the shoe fit you war. But now you get it facelifts like an Instagram. Oh, shit. It's lucrative lyrics. All you do is just crying. Now you got to rats in the stare. Maybe it's your mommy issue. You gave you a white devilish

Maybe your original music That your fans used to cherish Now you debated disputed, hated And viewed an American as a mother motherfucking drug out And never be a legend That's a lot To stare at who's in the mail

Look all that We're Botox Bitch I know you in bed All the tricks and the gimmicks You like the new white supremacists You ain't no lyricists Lamb, flam, flam Take hands and trans

And Come on now Come on now Come on now Give it up for Nick on that one now Come on now. That was slick. That Renegade Cadence was slick.

It was, but I'm over this whole shit. Like, this is... Same. I'm over this. Like, I'm over this whole shit. It had like an hour in time with me, like, when it first happened. Yeah, I mean, that's the... That's why Eminem lost this whole shit.

I feel like Nick had those in the can, though. No, Eminem lost this battle simply because he did... He made Nick Canna do the one thing we don't want him to do, and that's right. So you lost, Em. You lost. You lost. You lost. Now, what do we think about juice world?

piece to juice world. I don't know what to think of this situation. I mean, because there's so many layers to it, right? I think, I think number one, you know, I can't, I'm not going to blame anybody for whatever addictions you have. I just think, you know, your team failed you. Because if you are a multi-platinum artist who's getting hundreds of thousands of dollars a show.

Millions. And making millions a year later. There's no reason to have 70 pounds of marijuana on your motherfucking private yet. Right. Like, they should not be used. using you as the sexy decoy drug mule to bring weed into Chicago. Other than that, I mean, I've heard plenty of stories of people swallowing their narcotics to hide them from the police.

You know, I wish that somebody on this team would have just took that charge. Yeah. Like, you got to have people around to do that. You know what I'm saying? Not saying that you want your people to get fucked up, but they should know, like, I can't let juice get locked up. Bread and butter. Yeah, that's the bread and butter.

Or worse, what happened? The reason why we're all on a private jet? Yes. Like, protect the king. That's what should happen, number one. Number two, I had a problem with this story, too, when it first broke because we didn't know why he died. But I hated that everybody just jumped the drugs.

Even though I knew they were probably right. Yeah. It's just like I didn't want us to white man this young person. You know what I mean? Meaning, like, let's just not automatically say it's drug. Like, it's a lot of reasons that people can have seizures. You know what I mean? Like, he could be epileptic.

He could. I feel you, but 21-year-olds typically don't just be having. And, like, the reason... That's not true? What, I'm gonna say, I got a, the only reason why I'm saying that perspective is because, like, I was around, uh, you know, state property and they was, like,

drugs was a private thing for them. Yeah. I mean, like, that wasn't something that they really wrapped about. They wrapped about a little bit, but like, I've seen a lot of them have seizures. You know what I mean? Really? Yeah.

That lean and the pills is a bad mixture. And I've seen a lot of them, you know what I mean, have seizures and shit. And it's like, when I see it, I'm like, all right, I kind of already know what's happening. It's like, when you've seen Lowell Wayne have his seizure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, Rick Ross is the first person that kind of expounded on it in the music when he made Mama smile. Yeah. You know, talking about, you know, told my mother no more from Methazine and that make a smile. Like, I think the thing is we don't have like these hard conversations no more. Like, we got to start having these conversations about, like, this drug shit. What's the hard conversation to have? That these niggas is junkies. Man.

Like, for real. I'm just keeping it a hundred. And I'm not just trying to single out juice world. But like, and I don't think, like, you know how people say, oh, well, your generation bright about selling drugs. Selling drugs ain't cool. Never said it was cool. I'm just saying, like, these kids is on it heavy, and we're not, like, we're not doing nothing until something happens,

and then in one month everybody forgets about it. How would you say we should go about having the conversation? Who do you think should be responsible for having the conversation? Because, like, I have felt, not felt away, but I kind of felt away because I know, like, him in future had did a joint album called World on Drug. Yeah. Just like, damn, as like a big homie, I feel like he should have been like, Because I remember future I went on saying, like, I don't really do these drugs.

I just rap about it or whatever the case may be. Yeah. But if you're going to do a whole joint album with it on the album, have lean on it and different type of pills, every type of pill you can think of. You're advertising. You know, like, my big homie wouldn't let me be out here acting crazy. So who would you say should be having that conversation? I think that, like, any artists that have had their battles, should just be honest about it.

It's like after you seen what Herbo and Jordan Lucas had their back and forth and Herbo said, I went that rehab two times. We're just now finding that out. You know, I'm not saying that, you know, he's going to get a bunch of kids off drugs, but I'm just thinking in the context of how many times where I would love to see her go to a school and probably talk to kids about the dangers of drugs. You know what I mean? Like, shit is more in your face now than it's ever been.

And I think that if artists are more honest about what they're going through and not just waiting until we get to see it in the media and then we all get a chance to judge it, you know what I'm saying? Like, if they start saying it, like, you got to be rabid yourself. You know what I mean? Like, you got to start saying, like, yo, I ain't on front. I've been battling with this shit and, you know, be honest about it. I feel like it makes me a better artist when I do it.

But I understand that I'm hurting myself. That's going to give a little bit transparency with the consumer where they're like, damn. Because I always say this shit. Glock 9 fucking Smith & Wesson, AR 15, they don't give out endorsement deals. No, but rappers endorse them shit. Pfizer pharmaceuticals don't give out endorsement deals, but yet we promote impels and guns every fucking day. The shit that kills us.

And then once somebody dies, then it's the saddest story ever. We got to start having them tough conversations. I had a conversation with Meek Mill this week. I was in the Bahamas. Meek working on new music and whatnot. You know, his album championship is nominated for a Grammy. So we had a conversation about a lot of those things. And he was very open and honest about, you know,

I'm going to let him speak his own story, but he was very open and honest about everything you just was talking about. You know what I'm saying? That interview should be out later today, maybe tomorrow. But, you know, there's so many layers with the dream. drug use thing, right? Because I think when it comes to, like, the opioids and shit, I think it's almost like crack. Like, it was a point in time where crack was recreational.

Yeah. Like, people flip out when they hear Fat Joe or Angie Martinez talk about how they used to smoke crack. They're a certain age. They were around. She said she did it one time. I smoked it. She smoked crack. All right.

I said she was a crack guy. I said that? Wait, Fat Joe said that? Yeah. I think it was during the, I think it was with the interview with Elliot recently for Rap Raider. The Crown. The Crown. I think he said that.

But I'm saying all that to say it was recreational at the time. At the time, yeah. At the time when they was coming up and this shit was new to the hood and new to the community, it was a recreational thing. And I think that's what happened with these opioids. But also, I think a lot of these kids are already dealing with issues in here in their brain. That's why I'm so big on the mental health aspect of it. I think that a lot of times when these kids got anxiety and they got depression

and they're dealing with trauma from things that have happened to them growing up in these environments, by the time they start self-medicating. and they don't even know they're self-medicating, they're doing something for recreation, but it provides that escape. Even generations prior, though, have been dealing with trauma and handling it differently.

And they've been self-medicating. At one point, it was alcohol, it was cocaine, it was crack, it was weed. But I think that's where the honesty has to come in because it's like, even I asked you, remember, I text you about a therapist before?

Like, I seen a ton of shit. It was around a ton of shit that was hard for me to go to sleep after. You know what I mean? And, I mean, me personally, I just never used drugs, but I bottled up a lot of stuff in and I never spoke about none of it.

You know what I mean? But the problem is is that shit is looked at like it's soft. We got to stop calling shit soft. Like the same way I say, gay got to stop being a slur. Right. Like, self got to stop being an insult.

Yeah, to be emotional is to be human. To be vulnerable is to be human. Yeah, it's how you know your heart is beating. I can't reach out for help if I'm not being vulnerable. Yeah, but the thing is, it's like, oh, this nigga reaching out for. Yo, we make fun of each other for the worst thing.

Like, this nigga actually knows his father. Like, this nigga won't help. Like, for real, man. That this nigga trying to get out drunk. Like, you don't need no help. Like, yeah, this nigga's shot. You don't drug. What the fuck is wrong with you?

We're doing this one shit until we die. No, but for real. No, for real. You know, this shit is like a big boondocks episode. I ain't gonna lie. Yeah, that's true, actually. Real shit. Yeah, I just think, yeah, that's the biggest thing for me, man.

I think that, you know, we got to get to these kids before they start self-medicating. But it's a scary thing to be transparent. And I feel like both of you guys can attest to it. No, especially in this type of industry because everybody's going to have something to say. And being like, I feel like when you have, like, when you have, like, a role, you want to fulfill it to the utmost, so you don't really want the ridicule that comes with it. Well, that's the thing.

You're right, but everybody got to stop playing a role. Right. Those days are over. We live in an age of transparency. People can see right through you. Like, you can't even front for motherfuckers no more. Like, you really can't. Like, everybody know you fronten.

Right. They can see through that shit. Not real shit. So it's like, you'll stop playing a role and just be yourself. And by the way, it's okay to be vulnerable. It's okay to reach out and say, I need help.

It's okay to say I fucked up. You know why people don't want to say they fucked up? Because this generation not giving them no room for error. They're not giving no room forever. They're not. Because the gram, you can't, but the thing is like, of course, nobody's going to post their hardships. Yeah, like, nobody's going to post their hardships on the gram mostly. But it's like everybody's just showing the final result.

Nobody's showing the steps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And nobody's not talking about the steps, you know what I'm saying? It's like, it comes a time where, like, for me, like, I was, I didn't want to tell people that I lived in a shelter when I was younger. That was something that was really, because it was a tough time for me. It was, I was in the eighth grade. It took me a long time to be comfortable with that because I didn't want to get made fun of. But now the reason why I do say it is because I'm in a nice position

and I know it's a kid that's in the shelter that one day could look at me like, damn, Waino was here in the same place. So I want to feel like... You was an orphan? Huh? He was an orphan? No, we had moved to Maryland and then we moved back. My mom and my little sister, dad was together.

They broke up and we came back. My mom wasn't. She didn't have money like that. And we didn't have... My mother didn't want to go into nobody's crib for her to get on her feet. So we went through like the EAU, then another shelter to another shelter. and then we got an apartment. You know what I'm saying?

But being in that time where people associate a shelter with homelessness. You know what I mean? Like, oh, you ain't got nowhere to live, nigga, you poor? Like, that's not even funny. Like, you know what I'm saying?

It's like, somebody should help me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a joke. This is the 90s, like. The good thing is, though, you wear your beanie like a homeless nigga and that's fly now. Like the hats you have on right now,

I bet you learn that in the shelter. Next year will be, next year will be no beanie because Tori Lane says inspired me to get myself back. Don't do it. Don't do that. Why, I can't do it?

Why, you know, don't do that. You're doing it? I would rather you do that than drugs. But that type of shit breeds insecurity. But no, that type of shit breeds insecurity. Niggas pop and perkins can't got no hairline. I'm not popping purses. I ain't had a headline in a good six or seven years, but I'm not like, why do you want it?

Because I want waves again, man. The fuck. Ask women why they wear a weave. That's not different. It's not different. Because women, a lot of women don't look good ball-headed. A lot of niggas don't look good ball-headed, but we deal with it. I got a ball-haired, hey.

I'm going to keep it 100. You know what? It's not that I have a bad ball. My fucking bald only lasts for like a day and a half because I still could grow hair. Me too. But I can't get my shit bald every day. You go to the barbershop.

That's the beauty of being in the barbershop. Nah, I'm not doing no. I love going to the barbershop. Listen, if George Jefferson could have avoided it, you don't think he would up? But that was the look back in the day, though. That was cool. Nah, man, that shit.

You craid with the hair on the side and the ball in the middle? If Tori inspired me, Tiger inspired me, shout in him. It's lit 2020. You're going to get the whole reconstructive surgery? Are you going to do the... I got to find out the information on it. That's my biggest thing. You're about to look 10 years, y'all.

I'm not trying to cut my shit open and none of that. Like, if it's just niggas taking this from here and putting a head, there's not nothing crazy and I can still be out moving around. Yeah, I'm doing it. Why the fuck not? My dermatologist does that, Dr. Sandy. What? Yeah, I forgot what his car.

I'm about to say PRPS, but that's his gene company. It's when they draw the blood out of your arm. Yeah, I was talking about it. And then they spin it. and then they inject it back into your head. Hey, listen, man, why not? I support it. Thank you.

No. I appreciate you. So is this going to be another situation where people mourn this guy, Juice World, God bless it there for a couple weeks, then they move on, then the next rapper dies from Lean, and everybody says, oh, I'm going to quit, quit,

and then everybody just moves on. Absolutely. Oh, it's just going to really be a thing. And by the way, you can't blame future for this shit either. Because somebody introduced future to it. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? Like the act like future invented Lean,

is ridiculous. I drank lean before it. I was way before I even know who future was. Little Wayne was the lean king. Little Wayne was walking around here with two star foam cups.

And they were doing it before. He had sipping on some scissors. Like UGK. State property. What was that song? Bney had? Purple Rain. Purple Rain.

Like this shit been around. Like it ain't new. Like, I don't understand how Future gets the blame for. It's not that I'm blaming future. I just think because they did the joint album, it was just like,

oh, damn. So what? Like that's like. So you're going Blaine R. Kelly and Jay Z. He did a joint album. What the fuck that got to do? That's like me.

That's like me and you going into a jewelry store and then we take a picture and we robbed it and we take a picture both with jury on. Whose idea was it? But I'm the only one that go to jail. They're going to be looking at you like that's fucked up. Why?

You're going to look down to jean because you ain't tough. Shit, maybe. Why? Listen, future said he quit, right? He said he stopped using. Yeah. So that has to be part of the story too because I guarantee you by future

saying I don't really do this shit. I bet you there was a bunch of other kids that'd be like, shit, I ain't doing this shit neither. But I don't blame future. I just, like, the thing is, is that drugs is hard to kick. Like, listen, I've seen my mom addicted to fucking cigarettes for years. I can't understand it. I didn't see my mom in the hospital with tubes all in it and then come out and she still

spark up. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I just, me, I don't personally have an addictive personality, but I would want these artists that are having battles. Don't just wait to your, your album is coming out to speak. on which you're battling. Like, you know, like, you don't, you speak about mental health every day. It's not like you do it when you drop in a book.

You know what I mean? You speak about it all the time. It's something that's prevalent to you and your brand. I just think that a lot of the narratives just got to change as to what these guys is doing. And we got to start taking kids mental health serious because, you know, I've only met you for one time in my life and I was in April when he came to the breakfast club. And I thoroughly enjoyed that conversation. He's a very, he was, I met him one time, too.

I interviewed him at Maine in America last year. He's very smart young man. Very smart. And we talked about mental health and he told me about all the mental health issues that he was dealing with from anxiety to depression. He talked about how him and his homeboys

they sit around and they talk about the anxiety that they have. So it's like, yo, if these kids get these escapes in their hand, which is these perks and that lean and all that shit, sometimes these niggas just want to sleep. You grow up in certain environments and you see certain things. Sometimes you just want to get a good, nice rest.

Yeah. And these drugs are providing it for him. But I feel like if we catch these guys early, catch these girls early, and we really show them other resources and treatments that can help them deal with what's going on in here. We can keep them off them drugs, man.

You know, it's another thing, too. I hope that, like, we can also understand that everybody that is on drugs ain't always going through something. A lot of people are introduced to drugs because they think it's a cool thing to do. You know what I mean? That's happened a lot of times.

Like, I was in seventh grade and a girl asked me if I wanted to do acid. I was like, hell no. I don't know. Like, what I'm coming from, it's not cool to do drugs. Like, just keeping a hundred. And there are people who, like, go through shit

and use it, but there's a lot of people who just do it because it's like advertisement. Oh, yeah, I want to see what that's about. And then they might like it a little bit and then now they hooked on it. Yo, what you said is so real. You said that it looks cool, right? That's the reason we never wanted to do crack.

I couldn't believe it was new crackheads. I'm that serious. We've seen, yo, crackheads have been getting clowned on TV and movies. We see them in real life. Like, in minutes of society, when they wanted to suck old dog dick. You know what I'm saying?

Like, none of that shit made you want to smoke dope. Yeah. None of it. But when you're a rapper and you're doing these opioids and these perks, you got your jewelry on, you fly, you're all the girls around you. That shit makes a good promotional tool to be like, yeah, I fuck with that shit. But I think that's the same conversation we got to start having about gangs too. Because they make gangs look cool as shit.

And they make blood and cripping and vice law and obedient and all that. They make that shit look fun until your ass got 20 to 30 because you got to put in some work. Yeah. You know what I mean? And after putting in work comes doing the drug. Yeah. No, I was going to say that I think that if we had a conversation with rappers about stopping drug use, that is going to change the sound of their music.

A lot of rappers probably won't be rappers. And, like, that's a problem for me. Why do we think that? Dependency. I'm going to tell you something. If you got to do drugs to make music, you shouldn't be doing music. Because you don't have a natural gift. She has a very good point because the bar is set so low.

Like, we just was talking about Eminem and skill set and all that, right? One thing we could never question when M is a skill set, right? He's gifted. It's gifted. It's a skill set. A lot of these kids, they be, and I'm not, and I love, I love Checkmate, I love Checkmate, but on their future be like, I'm so high. All like I say is woo, woo, woo. Like, you know what I mean like, some niggas is.

You can only do when you hide. You're like, you know. And I got to encourage my audience to do drugs because I need them to be high to like this shit. Exactly. I'm serious. I need you to be out your mind because it's just a feeling. Yeah. That's all it is.

I mean, Jimmy Hendricks is putting on acid, weight, headbands, putting acid in his headband. Making good music, though, gifted. I know, but it's like... Gifted. He was gifted, but you want to follow legacy. I mean, what are we doing out here? He was gifted. I don't...

But even a lot of the things from the past, like, speaking of legacy, wasn't transparent. So, like, and, like, speaking of, like, the gay thing and how we got to stop making gay, like, not a cool thing. Like, and a lot of people from the past are gay and were, like, ashamed of that, you know,

which is why they did drugs. Like, it's like everything from the past is still current day problems. And I think that, now we're just in a climate where we're able to talk about and able to take actions. But then it's just like, how could we really, like, I know I don't really know all these rappers personally

to call them and check in, like, hey, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's not my job. Some of them, how could it really be effective? Some of them don't like it when you check on board. Like, I mean, some of them, I don't know, like, this music shit is, I always say I go home at night because this shit is the phoniest shit I've ever been in. I remember we was talking about the industry nigger thing?

Yeah. What's the industry nigger thing? We were talking about the word industry nigger, right? And I era. It's a bad... It's an insult to be called the industry nigger. I wrote about that in my last book, Shook one. Yeah, it's an insult to be an industry nigger

because you looked at as a phony person or a snake or a conniving or trying to get over on people type of person. And it's something you fight against for so long. You fight against it for so long and then you look around and you're like, oh shit, Waino was an A&R at asylum, but that's just Waino who was in the shelter

and needed breakfast and used to come up to the breakfast club to eat. You know what I'm saying? That's my man. I can look at him like that. I'm serious. You look at, you're like, oh, shit, little Duval out of putting out here records, but that's my man.

I used to pick up from the airport. Yeah, yeah. And we go do Hood State of the Union Web video. Like, I can't help that these people have grown in the industry. And you look around, we're all industry niggas now. But yeah, that's, thank you. Thank you. But the problem with it is, it's like,

first off, you know, anybody that's not in your immediate circle, as soon as you have any type of success, they're going to say anything to fucking diminish that. Like, oh, that nigga used to eat cheeseburgers. Yeah. Like, they're going to be like, that niggins. Oh, he's vegan now? Oh, he's vegan?

Okay. Ligger used to be at my house. Like, that doesn't mean anything. You know what I mean? But I'm just saying it's like, when it comes to the turp, industry nigger is looked at as like you're non-trustworthy. No, the negative connotation has faded. Now industry nigger just means like you out here, you any streets.

You be at industry events. You know what I'm saying? Like, you get invited. You're not at the guestless outside cold waiting trying to get in. You're an industry niggie. But this is the difference. The difference is we used to be on the outside. outside looking in.

Ten years ago, I didn't think I was an industry, nigger. Ten years later, we are the industry. We are. There's no need to fight it. There's no need to run from it. We are. I can't help it. You can't help it.

Amanda Seals is my nigger. Like, we'd be in our basement in Harlem doing sketches on a green screen 10 years ago. Now she's fucking had HBO specials and all this shit. Tiffany Haddish is in movies. We was doing shit like VH1, I love the 80s and shit back. I can't help it that I know these people. That's not my fault. That's not my fault that we've grown together.

I can't help that shit. Nothing wrong with it. The word still means corn. Yeah, you suck on that. It shouldn't be, though. It shouldn't be. Because all these niggas just want to be in the industry, all the niggis that say that about you is niggas that's trying to get in.

Every single one of them. And all of them think that they're going to do something different. And guess what? You are. I think that, I think our generation is better, though, because we don't have to, we don't have to move by the same rules and regulations that other people did. Like, there used to be a set of rules and regulations in the 80s, 90s. The industry was way more structured. Now we've created our own, like, we've literally created our own industry.

So we're able to move a different way, in a unique way, so to speak. I don't think the generation before us had that type of, had that type of luxury. Right. Like, everybody's a disrupted damn near. in every field. Yeah. Like, you know, they all came into some, like, like, unorthodox way.

There's no way to, like, when people ask me, like, how do you, I'd be like, like, I'd be like, like, I'd be like, if I had to tell you, you would definitely not sound enough for this shit, like what I had to go through. Yeah. I mean, you got to find your own way. And you can't do both.

Like, the cornea shit that we ever did was let all of these black men get into the industry and then tell them, no, but you still have to be in the street. All we did was get a bunch of brothers fucked up, get a bunch of brothers locked up

by trying to play this role. like Beanie Segal would have been way, way, way, way better off if he had embraced the industry as opposed to still trying to be in the street. I'm super over the street, yo. I hate it. Like, the streets is the most childish shit

you could possibly do. Yeah. It's the most childish shit. And I understand like certain principles and shit, but I'm talking about like, if you've really been in it, you'd be sitting around like, what the fuck are we doing?

Why would you even want to still be there if you've really been in it. It's not cool. Like, nothing. But it's like, it's a lifestyle and it's a mentality and it's something that some people, like, that's the only way they know. Yeah.

I feel you, that's why I always say the hood is a mentality not a place. Because, like, the same block that they gentrifies, the same block you grew up on that you own nothing, but you still own that mentality that you had grown up there. Never changed it.

You know, mad people celebrated the hood just because they, they saw everybody getting out of the hood. Like, they thought that was the way to actually really transcend your circumstances. Think about, like, the 90s, early 2000 is when everybody was tough. Everybody was a gangster.

And all these rappers claimed to always be on their block and this and that. So these niggas really embraced the hood in a real way thinking, this is going to help me get out. You understand what I'm saying? That shit ain't going to do nothing but hold you the fuck back. At all. I was trying to tell Nile about CB4 this week. Oh, man.

You never seen CB4? Mm-mm. Because I was trying to tell her about, because Nile still believes a lot of these gangsters are real, right? Oh, no. So I was trying to tell her how these rappers, these rappers aren't who they say they are. Because if they were, they would be in jail or dead.

Yo. Oh, my God, man. I would, like, Beanie Siegel. That's the toughest person I've been in my life. What? Call Cap. Call Cap on that? Yeah.

Oh, no, look, I'm not here to, I'm going to let niggas eat because this is how niggas is eating and all that. But I promise you, majority of these artists that be saying that they're the toughest niggas on a plight. I was around Beanie Sigel. I lived with him when he was on house arrest, all of that.

I never met a person tougher than him. And these niggas ain't a cord is toughest. he was. Yeah. Not a court. But you see what being tough guy, being tough guy, him attempting murder cases, federal cases, shot, you know what I mean? Like, all types of shit.

Lost his voice. And that's my brother, but he went through a lot because of them streets. And these rappers be, they be lying. You can't be, you can't be in the streets and have a show. Like, you can't do both. You can. You got to pick one. I mean, you can, but you can end up, like you said,

it's going to be all of those consequences that you just described. Yeah, like, these niggas be lying. And that shit ain't worth it at the end of the moment. fucking day. That's why I said even with the gang shit, yo. Like, niggas got to stop. I feel like the gang shit is just as influential as the drugs. People still fucking with the gang shit like that.

I don't see it. What? You seen him with Takashi 6-9? That nigga, re-be... What he did last year, bro? He rebuffed the nation. You go on YouTube right now? No, real shit.

You go on YouTube right now and you just type in. You know how the agorisms hit. You look at one gang thing. Yeah. It's everybody talking about their gang in Arkansas or Memphis or... Not for real. Gangs is the biggest thing right now, like for real. Can we talk about how in the past, you don't even got, I'm about to say decade,

not even the past decade. In the past two to three years, the universe, God, whatever you want to call it, has shown this generation every single mistake you could possibly make. If y'all kids going to 2020 and your mindset isn't different, if you haven't learned from the juice worlds, the Macmillers, the Takashi C, six-nines, the X-XX-X Tentacians, you know, even, you know, even, even, even, even, you know, like those, those circumstances, those things that happen to people. Like, those are things that happen to people every day. But think about that. Think about the short window that we've been through. We've seen all of these things happen. You saw XXXX get murdered. You saw Nip get murdered. You saw, you know, Mac Miller died because of drugs. You saw Jusworld die because of drugs. You saw Takashi 6-9. get locked up for playing a role,

for pretending to be something he's not. If y'all going to 2020 with the same mindset, if y'all going to this new decade with the same mindset, you deserve everything that's coming to you. Just be it, so. I feel like it's really hard to make change, though, because, like, you said, or you think you said earlier, like, is Jus World going to die,

and then we mourn him for a month and then we move on? Like, I feel like impact is really hard to have these days because we go through things like you. Things move so fast. Like, you feel it for the job. day and then like there's a new headline on your IG feed and then like you just don't like I don't know I think it's going to be really hard to really read it's going to have to like all

cell phone networks are going to have to go down and literally it's going to have to be something drastic to really make an impact on people fucking aliens got a land in time square and say y'all niggas was wrong this whole time yeah really you got the only thing the humble the fuck out of us and niggins will still do bullshit after that I swear you man the only reason I put Nipsey in there is because like Nipsey should serve as an example to stay away from these niggas, bro.

Good that young. Remember you were saying like I know a lot of old bad motherfuckers man. Yeah but he's an example He's an example but he's also an example of like you do got to put some you got to put some difficulty between you and the hood be. Yeah. When it comes to when it comes to being accessible and when it comes to you know people being able to touch you or even when you're just rolling around your hood if you're just there to do something good. You got to put some difficulty between you

in the hood because it's always going to be a nigger in that environment. Charlotte, man, that's only with hip hop culture. Promise you. And that's only with hip hop culture because, like, when I got that job, you know what I mean? While I did get a lot of people congratulate me. For the asylum? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, when I got that job, while I did get a lot of people congratulating me, I got so many people telling me that I should sign them and I should do this and I should do that.

Pretty sure if I was announced that I was like the new brain surgeon at NYU and some shit, niggas would not be trying to. to get internships as RNs and none of that. It's only a hip hop where, you know, it's the one thing where you don't have to have a degree to be rich, you don't have, but you need to learn business. And like no ID said one time,

he's like, yo, you don't just become an electrician overnight. You don't just start screwing a light bulb just be like, I'm an electrician. But a nigga make a song and now they're artists. You know what I'm saying? And the biggest problem is with hip hop culture is, is like when they see a nigga that's doing good, everybody expects this man to be Jesus

and come back and restore order and save everyone in the hood. And if you don't do that, you're not a real nigga. Only in entertainment. Let me not just say hip-hop. An entertainment. If you're a ball player, if you're a ball-player anything. When you black. When you're black.

When you're black. Because white people can grow up in a hometown, get rich, say, fuck that hometown. And won't nobody in that hometown be like, that motherfucker ain't real? He don't come back around no more. They won't give a shit. But the problem is because white people don't be looking for entertainers to lead them.

I mean, like they don't look to entertainers to lead them. Malcolm Mack said that long time ago. They don't look to, they don't imagine niggas saying, man, we need to, when Elvis was out here running around, we need to know what Elvis think about this political issue. Don't give a fuck about, they don't be looking for the entertainers to lead them. The way in hip hop we'd be looking for our entertainers to lead us. But that's where we see most people that look like us for a long time. Absolutely.

But there's tons of people that look like us that are leading us, but we only paying attention to niggas who got the bread. The niggas ain't got hot beats, Waino. They don't have the phantoms. They don't have the jury. How do I get your attention? Not real shit. You know what I'm saying?

Yes. Yes, you have real black people that's out here leading and on the front lines fighting for real causes and civil liberties and things of that nature. But how they don't got the attention of the youth. You're right about that. That's the truth to the matter. No. Can you talk about your meek interview? Are you talking about it at all?

I don't want to talk about it too much because it's about to live. Yeah, it's about to live. When this come out? It'll be out later today. But, you, Mink is a, he's a hell of an example, too. I know. That's what I'm saying. He's a hell of an example.

But me kept saying, I do believe that the hood will kill you. Like, I believe my hood could kill me. And I'm like, damn, that's really fucking sad. I believe that. And, yes, Nipsey made me real. And I've always known people who, I've known, I got homeboys that have gotten killed. You know what I know people that I actually grew up with and knew. Yeah.

But for whatever reason, when it happened to Nipsey, maybe because of the point I'm at in my life, because you do think that you can get to a certain point and certain shit won't happen to you, even though, which is wild to think, because we've seen Biggie, we've seen Pock. But to see Nip, who has, you know, dedicated so much of his life and energy to that community to get killed in that space that he loved so much that he was building, that he built to provide other opportunities for people that look like us. To see that happen to him by another black man, that shit. It was like, man, there's nothing you can do to please these things.

You know it's the first thing the niggins say, well, he ain't do nothing for me. That's how people think, yo. Yeah. That thing ain't doing nothing for me. Like, I didn't gave away turkeys, food, sneakers, this down and the third. All the person going says, man, what that nigga did for me? That n'n't, they never do nothing for me. People don't appreciate what you, like, what you're doing.

If it's not affecting them directly, they're like, fuck you. And all it takes is one situation for it to be sparked for it to go to the next level. It's just ignorance. It is. It is. But that's that mentality. Not knowing what people's real role is. Like he said, like, if they don't do nothing for them personally,

but I have like a huge, like Nipsey, he had a huge impact on the world in his community, like locally. People didn't know that. Yeah. Because, like. People knew that, though. Huh? People knew that about this.

I think some people knew that. He had a really good reputation, but not everybody knew. When he died, everybody knows. No, I'm comprehending and understanding is different. Like, really comprehensive. Maybe you had to see what's going on. We knew because we know what we all striving for and we knew nip and all that.

But I'm talking about like, the average nigga in the hood don't, you tell them, Gentry of K, they be like, what the fuck you're talking about? Like, they don't know, they just know that they're not eating. That's it. You know what I mean, that's all the nigga know. And with this violence, I mean, where there's no education and it's poverty,

it's going to be violence. You know what I mean, no matter what, or anywhere on the earth. That's the only resources black people have sometimes. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the thing that white people would do, right? White people, they sucked up all our resources

and put us in these environments where the only thing that we can turn to is crime. You know what I mean? You tell a motherfucker go get a job, a job. Yeah. I got felonies. I don't got no education. Who the fuck going to hire me?

Yeah. But then people that's in position sometimes, like they kind of did, then they dismiss those people too. Like in our neighborhood. Like we don't be feeling like, I'd be feeling like motherfuckers don't be feeling no social obligation to people.

That ain't my cousin. I don't know that, nigga. You know what I mean? I look at everybody, you know, if you're trying and you deserve a shot. Now, once you get your shot, it's upon what you do with it. But you have to earn your shot. You don't just get it. You have to earn it.

A lot of people just don't want to earn, too. I'm not going to sit here and act like, you know, and I love my people and all that, but I ain't going to sit here and act like niggas ain't about bullshit. That's why we call them niggers. I call black people, black people, and I call niggas niggers, I learn from Chris Rock. I think it's a big difference. You know what I think? I think a lot of people don't see the opportunity, like, at all.

It's hard to see it. How? With social media? That's the one beauty of social media. But then even when you look at social media, it's like, you think, like, wow, that's, like, I remember when I was in high school, I'm like, yo, Vashti is dope. Like, I wish I could be a DJ. That's so dope. And she inspired you.

And you was absolutely right thinking that. Right? And I loved Kay Swift. She was the one who really made me want to be like a DJ. Like, dang, I love Kay Swift, da-da-da-da. But I never thought, like, I could be a DJ. And then. Why?

And then once. They planted the seed in you. And once Thea found out, like, oh, you DJ? Like, why didn't you apply to be a D? Like, why you didn't, like, take that job? And I was like, oh, I didn't know you guys, y'all have no female DJs. I didn't know y'all would hire a female. Let me ask you a question.

And she looked at me and was like, that's ridiculous. Of course you can. Let me ask you a question. You looked at Vashti. Slued Vastey, that's Uncomestance alumni. I used to use her as my DJ Uncomest Sense. And you looked at Kay Swift. And they inspired you, but you didn't think you could do it.

See, I'm the exact opposite. I see one nigga do one thing And I automatically think Oh if he can do it, I can do it It's tons of people that's not like that at all Like foresight is almost like a fucking super skill like to see something in yourself To really believe

Because I felt like that's cool To actually take action to do it It's like I don't know nobody with DJ equipment I don't know where that like You have to really like Vision it and manifest it And to me it was just like Oh that's cool I wish I could do that

But it was never like Let me figure out how I'm going to get this done So how did you figure it out You eventually, you had to figure it out. Eventually, I figured it out. How, though? I was low on money. Needed money, you know what I'm saying?

So I'm like, dang, what can I do to make, like, weekly money? So I flipped my income check and got, I mean, my refund check. Took my refund check. And I bought DJ equipment and I just went on YouTube and taught me. How old are you then? College. DJ equipment now ain't nothing with a fucking program, right? Depending on to what extent you want to do it, right?

What did you buy? A controller at SX2. Naila, tell the kids that's listening. What did you buy? I bought a controller. I got an SX2. I download the Serato software. Then I just went on YouTube and I, like, practice for, like, a year.

But I practiced, like, in parties, like, college parties, like, wherever I could. I would do it for free. You paid your dudes. Yeah, I DJ for free for Madlong. And, like, I didn't really mind. It sucks, like, carrying your equipment and, like, you know, trying to, like, read a crowd. But, like, the more you do it, like, the better you be. come at it.

She said it sucks carrying her equipment. All she got is a backpack in the laptop. Now, the bag of the bag in the deep. The backpack is dumb heavy, though. Man, stop. Niggas was carrying speakers in the club. Oh my God. Every DJ want to hit you with that.

You don't even have to, you know. Which I never understood because all the DJs are fat as fuck. Right. So they had to do all of that cardio. Man, niggins are like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then on top of that, like, being a girl, being a girl, DJ was, like, really difficult.

I had one DJ come up and say, like, oh, you in my territory. If I see you. DJ and I'm gonna unplug your USB like like New York is really big on DJs not all cities I think is like this like level of seriousness with you I thought you about to say I'm gonna unplug your tampon oh dude who was the DJ I want to say his name no because it was already addressed like you know him does he work here you don't work here, but I told people who work here who addressed them for me. Oh, that was recently?

It was like last summer, last 4th of July. Really? Were you scared? No. I just thought he was corny. I was like, okay. He's just mad because I'm at Power 105. Yeah, he's like, hate.

You know, it's just like. Hate. You know what's crazy, though? Like, you know how people, your story, that's really dope. But you know how you could tell somebody all of that. And they'd be like, man, that's easier said to done. Who the fuck said anything about anything being easy? No, this shit is easy.

Everybody says that. He just said it. I'm not like none of this shit is good at. Everybody said that. But that's the thing. People want shit to be easy for them, you know? They want it to be so fucking laid out. It's not easy when you're learning.

It's not easy when you're networking. It's not easy when you're not getting sleep because you got to fucking make money and then actually do what you love and then try to build a brand and then try to connect and then call your parents. It's like mad levels to this shit, but it's easy. But nothing worth having is easy. Nothing worth having is easy. But the wild shit is when you're going through that whole process,

it really don't seem hard. Because when you look back on it, it was just the process. I don't know, bro. I don't know, bro. I just think about, when I think back on it, it just did not seem hard. We was having the time of our fucking life, whether or not, you know, the rent was late, whether or not we was getting them eviction notices, whether or not we couldn't pay bill. That's not.

I never felt that way. I was just like, fuck it, man. Maybe because I'm raised on a dirt road in Moscow into South Carolina. Yeah. All this shit was great. All this shit has been gravy to me since 99. I'm being honest When I got my first part-time job

at Z-93 Jams Even when I was still living with my mom I didn't give a fuck I was on the radio Like that's how I've always felt Like this shit is not changed But that's what makes it all worth it It's because we love it and it's because it's fun

That's why it's just like But being so close and being so far As a motherfucker And I feel like you're lying bro When you, I think I read this in your book correctly You lost your job But you had your first daughter by that time right Oh that was different though

You wasn't stressed I was stressed out like a motherfucker But I was a different set of time. I'm talking about when I was your age, when I was, when you're talking, I've already been fired four times. And I'm back home living to my mom at 31, hearing Biggie in my head saying being broke at 30, give a nigga of chills, but aren't you in your hometown, though, you still buy your family, you buy your friend?

That's even worse! No, it's even better. You got support. Not when you haven't been on Wendy Williams show and you didn't have been on in Philly doing your own show, and you've been on VH1 and all this other shit, and your firings are public. is on social media so everybody think you watched. I never even,

like, listen, I never even used to tell people that I worked at Rockefeller because nobody would believe me. I didn't even tell nobody. Like, there was no Instagram,

there was no even My space when I worked at Rockefeller. My Instagram, I'd have had 10 million followers by now. I was around Beyonce when I was 19, 20 years old. I used to be like, if I tell somebody,

I'm working in a regular, I'm working a fucking bed bath and beyond. If I do an overnight stock, if I tell somebody this, they're like, nigga, you were here with us. What did you do wrong? Yes.

You know what I told God, I said, Yo, if I'm meant to be back here in Montcorn to South Carolina, I'll get a regular job. I have no problem. Like the pride is, I'll get over it. You know what I'm saying? I'll go get me a regular job, whatever, whatever I have to do. I didn't have to because I have been fired four times

so I had unemployment for a year. I was getting $1,100 a week for a whole fucking year. And that last, the last week of my last unemployment check was when I started like the Breakfast Club that November. Oh, wow. So the stress aspect. of it wasn't the fact of, you know, I didn't have a gig.

Disgress aspect of it was I'm grown. Now I got other responsibilities other than me. Right. Yeah, that's a skip, man. I'm having them kids, man. That's it. I don't care. If it was just me, fuck it. Yeah. I live in a shelter like Wayno. I'm serious. I wouldn't give

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See, she don't even have nothing to say. That's why I'd be telling her. When she asked me, if she can ask me a question, I always say no. She was saying from the part of black entertainers, she was saying that a lot of people in the world look to the Kardashians. No, they don't. To lead them?

Not black people? Yes, they do. They do, though. No, no. White people look into lead them politically? Black people do look at the Kardashians. When I went to college, when I first saw it, they love the Kardashians.

Everything they do. Fucking Kim gets a present when she has her baby. I want a present when I have my baby. Oh, they buy this stroller? I want that stroller. Y'all from a different generation, yo. Our generation ain't looking up to, my generation ain't looking up to the goddamn Kardashians.

Well, I'm not looking up to the Kardashians, but, and I'm in this generation, you know what I'm saying? But there's people who really do. But look to them to lead them how, though. Like, not to lead them into, like, the new product. I'm talking to, like, lifestyle. I'm not talking about lifestyle. You know, by the way.

Kim Kay is a leader, though. No, absolutely. She's doing shit in that. Kim Kay getting motherfuckers out of jail. Yeah, yeah. Say whatever the fuck you want about Kim Kardashian. That's in recent year. She wasn't doing that when I was in college, though.

And that's good. Like, people growing. people evolve and you start using your influence and your platform for more. And the main problem I have with this generation is we will never let Malcolm Little become Malcolm X. I say that shit all the time because it's true. Motherfuckers will discredit Kim

because of what she has been doing. Like, you know, the sex tape and then the reality show. What did I got to do with the woman she's becoming? Yeah, absolutely. I agree that, but Kanye tweaking. Why Kanye tweaking? Do you think they're doing this because Kanye's running for president? Who said Kanye running for president?

He said he running for president. I know I got that something. He said 2026. 24. So, yeah. So he's like, let me clean up my first lady. No, that thing is speaking, man. That way people don't be talking crazy about her.

If you're still trying to clean up anything running for president, then you ain't paying attention to who 45 is in the White House. 45 has shows you that America has a tolerance for bullshit. And when we talk about not having to play a role, you should not have to play a role as a politician anymore because Donald Trump is in the motherfucking White House. And you see them doing it little by little. Cory Book was on Brex Club this week.

He's cursing. and shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you should be able to do that now. That's the thing that. You know, like people, in politics, people really think that. Like, you know what curse? It's like when you see a pastor, you know, a pastor cheat on his wife or some shit, you'd be like,

the pastor really be out here fucking what bitches is? Yeah. Yes. You see the pastor eating pussy. Yeah. The past is like eating pussy better than us. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't see anything wrong with that they're human beings.

Humans are able to lead. And if we know anything about ours people, we know that they're flawed. Black people, white people were all flawed. That don't mean they're not good at what they do. Definitely. But titles, though, that's what it is. It's titles make motherfucking say, oh, nah. If you doing that, you better not be doing nothing that nobody disagrees with.

Remember when Obama was a daughter smoking weed? Everybody tried to make it into the biggest fucking problem on the world. He's smoking weed. It's not like she was doing lines. There's no crazy shit. Right. And by the way, Barack already told you he smoked weed. You know what I'm saying?

Barack told you he smoked cigarette. I think Barack said he dabbled with cocaine in college. I could be making that up. No, no, no. You're making that up. You're making that up. He said weed in college. I do remember weed and cigarettes.

Why do you think Kanye tweaking? Because he painted himself silver like the 10 men? I was really confused. What's wrong with that? No. What's right with this? What's right with it? Why do we act like we've never seen this before?

Never seen what? They literally started posting the meme saying, I want gold silo to fight silver. He doesn't see that. He doesn't know masks. What's the difference? I'm not knocking that at all. I'm just saying, bro, listen,

my biggest thing with Kanye is that his music ain't hitting like you used to. That's all. Everybody act like I just, I don't just hate the nigg. I don't hate the nigga of nothing. All I said was, I said on the show. I'm like, yo, if you telling me that you're dropping a gospel album, because you gave niggas Jesus walks, I expect shit to be Jesus walks level.

He did have great features on that album. Why? Because it was at a different time? Yes, you're in N-R. You know that's not fair. You can't tell, so you want Jay to drop reasonable doubt every time you put it out? No, I don't want them to drop reasonable doubt, but I want the beats to be better.

I want your raps to at least be good. There's some good production on that album. The raps on Jesus' King is trash. Oh, the raps. I can tell you exactly. exactly what's wrong with Kanye's music. First of all, Jesus King, you're absolutely right.

The worst thing about that album was Kanye West. The beats were dope. The music were dope. The beats were banging. The song concepts were good. Him. Him.

His voice, his performance, his lyrics, and I can tell you why. Because Kanye is actually going through real personal shit now, right? But when you're going through personal shit, you can't have other people write it.

You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, this shit got to come from you in your perspective. His ideas, what he's going through, he's not able to execute via his art. He didn't write Jesus walks, though. He had help writing it. He did write it, but he had help right here.

Yeah, Ron Fess wrote a lot of it. That's what I'm saying. So, like, expectations for this gospel album can't equate to Jesus walk. No, but I think it's different. I mean, I'm taking it from a taste level, like, I'm thinking that it should be, no, you know what, it's unfair to call the Jesus walks.

I mean, to say it should be Jesus' walks. That's unfair. But I'm at least looking for it to be in a space where I'm like, yo, for a gospel album, that shit is hard. Like, it's just fired. People's calling that shit fire is lying, man. Niggas is lying calling that shit fire. I think it could have been fire. If I was Kanye, I would have, I would have let God use me to use other people, meaning like...

I got Kirk Franklin on it. Yes. I would have took those records and put other artists on it. I got Mary Mary Mary. McCray. Kirk Franker, LaCray. Yo, not only that, I would have... What he did with Matt Alice and Pusha T was dope. I'd have been taking artists

and letting them talk about their experiences with God. That would have been dope. Yes. I'd have been taking other hip-hop artists and letting them talk about their experiences with God and spirituality. He didn't do that.

He didn't do that. And that shit, that shit, that shit just saying it. And I don't, I don't know, man. I think Kanye is one of the people who's bigger than his music anyway, though, because. He is for sure.

Life of Pablo was a phenomenal album. But he, his, what he was doing at that time overshadowed that. whole shit. Life of Pablo is classic, bro. Go back and listen to Life of Pablo right now. I don't know about classic, bro. Ultra light bleams.

Ultralight beams. It's a good album. It's a good album. Waves. Man, that shit was dope, yo. The shit with Andre 3,000. Motherfucking, um... What made it a classic?

Panda. Bruh. Did you go to that show? Did you go to that show? We can't. I mean, can we? Did you go to that show? No, did Pablo show?

show? No. When he had to go to the floating. stage. Oh, no, I ain't go there. When he does... It got canceled. No, it didn't. Oh, that's when he started

Wiling on Cuddy. And then, yeah. When I was one of them, but he had the floating stage. When he did, when he would do those three songs in a row, he would do, um, the shit where he was like,

I feel like Taylor Swift, oh me, sex, and then he would go into Panda. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, that shit was stupid. He's one of the greatest ever. I'm not disputing that, but you would,

we could, like, let's talk about good music as a label. Kanye really fumbled the ball with good music. No, he did. They did a lot of good things, but it's over. He did a lot of good things, but I don't like what he did to Tiana Taylor.

I feel like Big Sean could have been way bigger and much respected, and he's not. He is. He's not, bro. What do you want, what do you want Sean to be? No, I like Big Sean, but Big Sean's never, like, accredited for being as great as he is.

I think he had credit for being influential as he is. He's man influential with his flow and shit. There was one year, Sean was my favorite rapper. I didn't think nobody was rapping better than Big Sean. It was like two years ago. Two years ago? About two years ago. When he did All Me?

The I Decided. It was I decided. He was on All Me? The I decided album. It might have been right after All me. I used to wait for his verse on the song. Sean was snapping. Shut the fuck up.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no. Sean was snapping. But, yeah, Sean had a person. I think Sean did great. I think, you know, when we talk about the decade, Sean got to be a top five, maybe top ten, maybe top five rapper the past decade?

Definitely top 10 for sure Top 10 for sure Top 10 I don't know about five Top 10 for sure I'm gonna say alright let's go let's go let's go Top 5 I'm talking about new guys I'm talking about the new class All right no no no

Up the era from who got hot in 2009 2010 to now Kendrick Col Kendrick Meek Cole Kendrick Drake Waleh Waleh

You gotta put meek in there Meek Sean Where's Khalifa Sean Sean is in there Yeah Sean is in there Sean.

Okay. With Travis Scott. We put Sean about Travis Scott. I don't know if you can put Sean over Chicago. I don't know if you can put Sean upon Travis. You're not put him with Califa? I love Wes Top 10. But I know, I love Chris Califa, but I think like Wizz's sound changed a lot when he,

like his sound changed a lot after rolling papers. Like, like, remember Christian Orange Juice is before rolling papers. I think he's more mainstream. Yeah, not. But everybody does that. Let's really do this, yo. Hold on. All right.

Jay Colson got way more mainstream. First three albums. Then Forrest Hill. I think he got back to him. No, Fuller's drives. Was it what? That's not, that.

Oh, no, no, no, no. You know what I was thinking about? No, no, no, no. You know what I was thinking about? My fault. Was the what? I was thinking about sidelined stories. It's my favorite.

It's my favorite, call album. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody right there, top five of the decade down real quick. Top five of the decade? Okay. Wait, we didn't say Drake. Yes, we did. Write it down.

Write it down, right it down. Right it down. Okay. You number one. This is my objective. Top five of the decade. Is this personal or this is for the culture? For the culture.

Objective. Matter of fact, you can write down 10 if you want to. What you feel? Five? You can write down 10 if you want to. In the 2010s? Yes, the 2010s. You can write. I got seven, so I got seven solid people.

Remember I was talking about this in the car? I was saying, when we was in the Bahamas, I was saying how, yo, when we look at this class, we're going to look back and say this was a golden arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because from 09 to.9 to. to now, a lot of these dudes have really, really become hip hop staples. And at some point in the future, will be in the conversation for goats.

Yo, I know, so this is one quick question I have. I know that chains is older, but chains popped off 2009 to, like the early 2000s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to give it to him. Yeah, I'm going to change over, Sean. You got to give it to him. I got to give a while to lay his credit, too. I got a solid eight Wait

Nah Nah Not like that though Like right Ross was around Ross started in the middle The middle of the last decade Yeah

He started in the This is an order Or just in general Just in general I got a solid This is not in order It don't have to be It don't have to be

I don't have to be an order I just got a solid I got a solid My top three is objective Oh And people are argue With that

The top three I think all of us are going to have The same top three And some I think so too Some way, shape, or form. Feel me?

Real shit. Real shit. I got eight. Okay. Damn, hold on. Let me get. Oh, no. This is how his list is kind of crazy.

It's kind of stupid? My shit ain't stupid. This is, yeah. Niggas don't know. I'm gonna keep it a hundred. Niggas don't know. Dang, nobody's gonna say that. That's cool.

That's what I think. That's a good one. Kanye is not, we're talking about new people. Taylor. new class, new categories. Oh, no, I got to put my man. I got 11. All right, if you guys go around your whole thing, then let me...

I got 12. Let me write more. O.T. What? No. No. In this decade, though, O.T got mad hit records. Yeah, that's not...

He's the hoods lowrider. He does. He does. The hoods low rider. All right, I'm going to start. This is my 10. This is my 10. This is my 10 of the past decade. Mm-hmm.

Kendrick Lamar. That's a given. Aubrey Graham Jay Cole Rhapsody Big Sean Waleigh Meek Mill

Two Chains Chains Travis Scott Nipsey Hustle Big Crit YG Wiz Khalifa That's cool

That's my That's my 13 That's 13 That's 13 Let me keep going in too shit That's what we're doing today I'm not going to do 13

I'm going to just do it based off who I fucked with within the past 10 years and how hard I fucked with them. Let's hear it. Drake, Col, Kendrick, Waleigh, Big Sean, whiz, Meek. Honorary mentions to, I'm going to wait for you to drop the name. Let me say that.

Honorary to mention to one person on his list and to somebody you just said on your list because I was like, damn, I really fuck with him. Would you listen again? Kendrick, Drake, Cole, Rhapsody, Big Sean, Walee, Meek Mill, T-Chains. It was rap. Okay. Rap is hard.

Got to give rap. Who you got, Waino. All right. Damn, hold up a second. I'm bugging. Nah, this should be moved up. It don't got to be an order. It's not an order.

All right. Drake, Kendra Cole, Meek, Chains, Waleigh, Tyler the Creator. Oh. Tyler the Creator. Big Sean. God put Nipsey in there.

Future. Travis. Nikki. I got to move Nikki up, though. Because Nick, like. Dang, if you put Future, you got to put Doug. Dang, was Nick this past decade?

Yeah, you got to. You got to put thug in this past decade. Nicky is. Nicky, hell yeah. Nikki, her first album came out in 2009. Yeah, he right. Oh, I got to put Nikki on there. You're right.

You got to put Nikki on there. My bad. Who you just said? Damn. Thug. Got to put Nicky on there. Thugger got to go in there. You know what?

I'm not going to front. Thugger got to go in there. It's crazy. He only had like six years, the last six. I know. But he's got to go in there. Damn. Then you would have to put the Migos in there too then.

Hell yeah. You know, it's been a good team. years. The niggins can't act like hip hop is and all that shit. You know what the problem with hip hop is? Every time people speak about the state of hip hop, they talk about the whack niggas.

That's the first thing they do. Nobody says like all these people that we've mentioned that have great albums, great shit, everybody, man, well, I don't like Little Pump. Like, it's like... Who the fuck is? No, but that's what people are quick. Is it dead?

No, man. What, geez? Which little was dead? One of them dead? Little Pete. Little Pete. God bless the dead. That was rough.

That was rough. Little Poe's actually a nice guy too, man My bad little pump He's a good uncle My bad little pump I ain't know Smoke perk They're nice guys

They are They're cool They're really nice guys You just saw him The other name I met that young man He was a cool year He's really cooler

Than I thought He was gonna be For up You know I feel bad that I forgot about Nikki Yeah Yeah

I really do Gotta get Come on Yeah Because Nikki and Drake Come on Yeah Yeah

Yeah Nicky top She up there That's why I couldn't Put it in the order Because Nicky in the top

Whatever Like She up there I mean, if you being objective, I mean, it depends what we're going off, though. We're going off skill, we're going off skill, hit records. Nikki could be number four. I'm going off a skill, hit records, and being the most one and the most influential. Nikki should be number four on everybody list.

I don't know. Yes. Because my number four could, my number four would either be Sean, meek, Waleigh. Those, those three to me really are in two chains. Those four really are fighting for number four. My number four, too, though, man. Hey, I don't like Crit. My floor is me.

Big Crit the past decade? Yo, you know what I'm surprised? None of y'all mentioned Kit Cuddy. I'm not a really big guy like that. Yes, he was the past decade. Yes, he was. Man on the Moon was 09. And I was having that conversation, too.

I said the reason you got to give a lot of these, all of these people we just named, the reason you got to give them credit because they're still around. No disrespect to Cuddy. They're still around. No, absolutely. Because I think.

Lupé Fiasco ain't, ain't make it. Oh, hold up. He didn't make it. Lupe first album came on 06. But remember they had that. was this photo shoot with... He was the first couple of ex-self freshman. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Papuza's double-exel freshman. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Fucking Plas, Boosy. They always on that cover.

That's why you got to get these dual credit because they transcend, they transcends to the decade. They stood the test of time. You know what I'm saying? Whether or not we still like, oh, well, where's you? I like this better, but they're still around.

I think Cuddy, like, and I like Cuddy, but I think he only has one good album. Like, keeping it all the way 100. That one album changed shit, though. I used to like, Cody. I think he has one good album. Because everything else is like, all right, it's cool. But like, unless you die hard stand, it's not really for everybody.

YG, too. Absolutely. That's why I got YG on my list because, you know. Listen, why did you got a classic record with my nigger, man? The West Coast was damn dead. No, the West Coast was dead before Kendrick. And Kendrick came back and resurrected that whole shit. Come on, yo.

Dead is a very, very strong. Game never stopped putting out. Game, no doubt. But before that, it was just all the OGs. Yeah, and games. There was no new wave until game came. And then when the new way, it was, it was glasses belong. It was Bishop Lamont.

It was Nifty Hustle. It was, it was, all of those dudes came strong on steady game. Like, all of them came in and they, they revised the West in a real way. And then Kendrick and Top Dog Entertainment took that shit somewhere else. Yeah. Nobody put currency. Currency. Not French Montana.

French Montana has no hits on his own currently. But French made some great mixtapes. Yo, white boy, shut the fuck up. Just because you hear two biracial people misses in the top three, that don't give you the right to yell out dumb shit. Like, T-Pain honorable mention. What fuck is you talking about? Nick, I'm Sprung came on like 0-4.

Exactly. Pei-pain on him. T-Bain not even a rapper. Not only saying you're a rapper-turned-singer. But T-Pain definitely disresored. deserves his flowers why he's Yes he does. Oh my God, we didn't say Wayne.

No, but Wayne is like Kobe Bryant. He played in every fucking era. Why do you? Why do you? About Wayne, only shit. Like, Wayne came out when I was in high school. This nigga still put an albums now.

Wayne, I was listening to Wayne in 96. Yeah. Get it How You Live, mixtapes. Hot Boys, Charles of Salkilana when they would come to the music farm and all of them had on white t-shirts and Reeboks. This was 96, get it how you live. Wayne been around.

And before that, Wayne was putting our music with BG. the baby gangster. Volume 1, volume 2. Baby gangsters, they've been putting out music. Yeah, man. Why haven't been around for a long time? Somebody asked the question,

like, is New Orleans artists underrated? I said underrated, they have some of the greatest fucking artists of our time. They are underrated, though. You think they underrated? Yeah, New Orleans don't get mentioned the way Atlanta gets mentioned, the way... That's true.

Even a Florida gets mentioned. Like, New Orleans, like, you're talking about two of the biggest hip-hop movements of all time came out of New Orleans. No limiting cash money is the biggest. That's true. Without cash money, without cash money, money, you don't get no Wayne. You don't get no...

You don't get Drake. You don't get Drake. You don't get Nicky. You don't get the Negro spiritual that is back that ass up, man. He's one of the greatest producers of all time. You don't get that white-ass. Why did you call it a Negro spiritual? That right-as, Snoop album.

The first one, the game is to be sold. What? What happened to Snoop if he can't even go there? Nah, you're right. You understand what I'm saying? No, no, yo. No Limit had tons of dope-ass albums, yo. It was a point in time where I bought anything from No Limit.

That was the Bueblood. I bought me an ex-a-old. fucking the twins. What was the twins name? Canaan Abel. I bought day shit. Because my homie was going to Arizona to listen to his moms

and he was coming back with the tapes. I was like, oh, these niggas is fine. I just was buying everything they put out. Not even just New Orleans. Louisiana as a whole. Yeah, Louisiana's all. You're talking about Boosie. You're talking about Webby.

Bro, Jay Electronica from New Orleans. Like Jay Electronica is from New Orleans. Hey, listen, even to Nav. I'm going to give an honorable mention of Chief. What about 217? You want to add him in that night? I think he's new. Yeah, he's still new.

Because he was like freshman exiled three years ago. Yeah, he was on a 2016 cover. Honorable mission to Chief Keefe. Oh, Chief Keefe, not. No, no, no, no, wait a second, Charlie. I'm gonna keep it 100. Chicago as a whole. Chicago as a whole spark.

A whole movement. No, sparked youth rapping again in every region. Every region. And different types of rapping. Not just like the Chief Keefe style. They got like poetic rap. They got like bar rap. But I'm going on a slang.

On a slang. On a slang. Thot comes from Chicago, all of that shit. But you said Chief Chief. Chief, Keith sparked it what don't like. Yeah. He sparked it. Really? Niggas wasn't paying attention.

Chicago was dead. Really? Kanye had group as Chicago. Lupio Fiasco was a superstar at that time. They had kind of, they was kind of grew past Chicago. Niggas wasn't looking at Chicago for artists. The best thing I liked about Chief Keefe them is they bought the Chicago we hear about. Yeah.

Oh, they brought it to music. Yeah. That dark hood side of Chicago, they did that. Because before that, it was like, it was fly. It was common. It was Kanye. You know what I'm saying? It was crucial conflict.

Crucial conflict. Remember crucial conflict? Twister. You know what I mean? Not saying that them dudes weren't from the hood. It's just that their music didn't necessarily reflect that. Do a die. Do a die.

Yeah. But with Chief Keefe did them, they can. It was like, oh, that's the only one that last year, that whole shit was Dirk, though. Dirk the only one that really lasted from that whole era of all of them. Herbo, right? Herbo, yeah, Herbo too. Yeah, Herbo. Yeah, Herbo.

Yeah, he knew her. No, Herbo and Dirk, they all came out, like, they was all in the same, like, Chicago draft class, if you would. Yeah, juice world from Chicago, too. Yeah. Chicago's another underrated city when it comes to music. They're underrated with a lot of shit. A lot of my favorite rappers come from Chicago.

But people think that Chicago is some place that when you get off the plane, bullets is just flying. It's really not, like, all the way like that. Like, I've been in Chicago a few times this year. Actually, really, really dope city. Not downtown. Downtown. If you get in the cab and you say, you'll take me to the south side,

I bet you the cab drive is like, nah. Who's going to the Southside? If you ain't got no reason to be there, you ain't going there. I'm so glad you said that, because I hate these motherfuckers that go into people's things. Oh, go to the hood? The niggas that want to go to the worst, take me to the worst place in the fucking planet safari?

Exactly. Fuck out of head. I come from poverty. I don't want to go to it. Like, yo, take me with all the bad shit's happening. What do you think about, um, do you think Lizzo? Are you changing the subject? I was.

I was going to ask about something up. I forgot about Lizzo. I didn't have a problem with Lizzo. What you was going to say? I was going to talk I was going to say Do we think these rappers are going to really stop

quitting drugs for real You think Trippie Red is serious When he says he's not going to do lean And shit no more I don't know But I would like to see change behavior I feel like Rocky Like when Yams died

Rocky changed his behavior When it came to lean And you know He stopped doing purple swag And all of that shit So I would love to see change behavior But honestly no Because my fault

No I'm saying Go ahead I was just saying Because I It's all in the moment Like now I was saying It's like we Shit is happening so fast

It's like You forget what you were sad about. I don't know what it is to grow up in the era of social media. Remember, like, the talk on a girl, I talked to a girl on the phone, I had to have fucking quarters ready. You know what I mean? Like, for real. Like, I don't know what it is that every

moment that you live in has to be shown in, like, that type of pressure and anxiety they might get from that. So, I don't, I feel like they just, they move on too quick. Yeah, I think these dudes got to show us more than, um, just Instagram video saying that they're going quit, you know what I mean? What I think these brothers

got to do is that I think he actually got to check in the rehab. You know what I'm saying? Because I think what they also don't realize is, nigga, you're addicted and don't know it. Yeah. So when you try to quit this shit cold turkey, you're going to go through them with draws

and all of that type of shit like that. I think that all of these brothers like Trippie Redd them who say they really want to quit, they're going to have to really do the work to quit. You got to do the work. Trust me, if you've been on that shit for a few years, that shit is going to be hard as fuck to get off and that shit might cause you to have seizures.

But I would love for that to be documented if they would do that. Yeah. Not that, like, they need to, like, show us they person. But I think it would be good to be documented just because so we can see the process because other people seeing it, it'll motivate them to either get clean or to stay away from it. I agree with you because you're showing us everything else. Anytime you get a new girl, you want to show us. Any time you get a new girl, you want to show us.

Any time you get new money, you, this shit, smiling with the money and you're doing all that shit. Show us that. Right. You know what I'm saying? But I'm just really take the steps. And I think, like, you know, it can't, you can't do everything for social media. It's like, you got to do. Well, first and foremost, you got to be willing to make a change yourself.

Like, and that's why I was saying before I can't blame future because. Because, yeah, you should make a lot of dope songs to fucking lean and pills and all that shit. But you, the nigga that's saying, yo, anybody got the perk 30s? You know what I mean? You're making a decision as a man. You are influenced, but you're making the decision to take it. Absolutely. I'm going to pay some bills, and I want to come back and talk about Lizzo.

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you're wearing. I don't, didn't like what she had on but I don't give a fuck that she's big. I wouldn't care who the woman was. It could be Bernice Burgos. If you was at the game and a thong, it's a time and place for everything. If she was on stage performing and she had that on, great. Knock yourself out. If you was in the club and you had that on, great. Knock yourself out.

Why you had a Lakers game with that on? That's just my thing. Like, that's just, that wasn't appropriate. Thank you, my nigga. It's just that simple. No, because every time I said something, everybody's like, but if Rihanna, you know what I start with?

It wasn't Rihanna. Let's start at that. It's not, let's not talk about fantasy football here. It's not what we think could happen. It's what's actually happening. I don't have a problem with Lizzo, being a big girl. I'm happy that she's comfortable in her own skin,

that she's prideful, that she makes music, and all that shit, but not at the Laker game, baby. But all I'm saying is that wouldn't have been a subject if it was Rihanna doing that. That's not true. You think y'all would still be like, oh, that would be inappropriate.

Tell you, no bullshit. I go on Meg. I think you guys would sound less efficient if it was real estate. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. I go on Meg the Stallion page at least once a day to see if she twerk. At least once a day.

I enjoy it. It's like that train is never late. Always go to it. You know what I mean? Yeah. If Meg the Stallion got down on her knees And started doing that shit she'd be doing At the Laker game

With a thong at the Lakers game I'm like what are you doing yo You're on the Jumbo Tron screens All these kids in the audience I don't care who it was It don't have nothing to do with it being Lizzo That was just inappropriate Like period

And I know it sounds wild Just talk about inappropriateness in 2019 Because anything seemed like anything goes But that was too much Absolutely And the thing is like Then she turned into Now yeah I'm pretty sure

I'm pretty absolutely sure she gets body shame because she's a big girl in the third. But that's not the issue here, baby. If you're doing your show, you got all the right and full discretion. When I'm trying to see Braun put up 40, I don't want to see your ass in a thong on the Jumbo Trond. You know what's crazy? When I first saw that, I thought she was performing.

So I didn't give her for. I was like, oh, she performing, that's Lizzo. But when I just realized she was just in attendance, I thought she was performing at halftime at the Lakers game. I didn't know she was just in attendance. Like, nah, that was. was inappropriate. Just because it's something that you don't want to see at the game

doesn't mean she can't wear it though. I didn't say she can't wear it. You can't wear that to the game. Like it's certain places that it's inappropriate shit. It's like, yo, you can't just, you can, like, what's that? Freedom of speech. You can say whatever the fuck you want. Freedom of expression.

But you got to be held accountable for what you do. She has freedom of expression. And guess what? We have the right to express that we don't like it. Exactly. She's been held accountable. You guys are talking about her now. People are talking about her online.

Would you do that? Would you wear that to a game? Me personally, no. Why not? Tell me why not? Tell me why not? Tell me why not? Tell me why not? But just tell me why not?

Why wouldn't you do it? Just not my vibe. Taylor, would you do that? Not the Lakers game. What game? Philadelphia 76? Did you for Philly? What game would you do that at?

What game? You go to the game just like that? No. All right then. Why not? Because that's her whole point. That's her thing. That's her thing.

What's the thing? You don't see her on Instagram. Like, she is vocally about. That's her shit, though. Do it. performing fine. You know, Prince was on stage with his ass out just like Lizzo, but he was on stage.

Lizzo's thing is I'm a big girl and I'm sexy, so she want to walk out the house feeling sexy. If that's what makes her feel sexy, then let her do it. And mind you, Rihanna has done that before. Rihanna ain't never been no way to have a thonged. But that's what I'm saying. Where? It's not at a game.

Show me because I missed that and I want to see it. Listen, Little Kim had a shellfish on her titty. There's plenty of people that's won all types of shit, but not at the game. Show me at a game. where somebody came with a dress wrong. Is it at a game? Why are you at a game?

Yes, because it's at a game. That's not a, yo, that's a place. There's no rules to what the fuck you can wear to a game. It is a bad little kids around. There is rules to what you can wear to a game. There is rules. But there's kids around like, I said. Rihanna was walking around like that, right?

Where? Why do you keep saying that? Where would Rihanna open a mile like that? And Rihanna always had games. Listen. Beyonce weird shit, right? She don't wear that, but she wears stuff. Show me what she'd do that at the game.

If you was at a concert, Cool, if you had an award show Cool I understand You're trying to get attention At the award show Whatever, whatever, the Lakers game It just seemed a little while

So my thing is this The kids, children got to be comfortable With her ass too I mean they see it on their timeline No no no no That's subjective To being on somebody's timeline Is kids supposed to be comfortable

With seeing ass on the jumbo tron too Children They see it everywhere else No we can't say that Because I can't speak for everybody's child Everybody child ain't on social media Looking at the same thing You'd be foolish to think that children are not seeing that.

I'm not foolish to think that because I know that children see shit. I'm saying that every child, if we're speaking children on a general blanket statement, don't see that. If I was out there, right, and I had on these pants, right? And I had this cut out. And I had a black sock over my dick. And that shit was just hanging with a black doll. But girls, you know.

But you know, girls, that was different. Wow. That's only different. Because the thing is that men and women have different body parts. Yes. We have different body parts. But you all right. Do that.

No, but y'all got can't do that. So a nigger can't do that. Y'all's not. If you're going to show your butt on the job, by all means, do it, Shalaman. I'll be like,

y'all, and y'all better say Charlottoman. You look stinking. I will. I'll be like, out there with your thong on. But I'm not going to stop you from doing it. If you want to do it, I'm going to do it.

You're going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to keep it. Look. If you had your ass out, it's a lot of different, like, it's different conversation as friends. I'm going to start asking you,

Like, what's going on, my nigga? Like, this ain't Rihanna. No, I said this is what Lizzo said to defend herself. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. She said Rihanna wore a see-through gown from the 24 CFDAs. Once again, this is a gown at an award show.

No, basketball association. Exactly. If you are artists and you're in performance mode, rock out. I'm going to fuck when you had a... For old people, too. So fuck how old people feel too. Like, because it's on their timeline too, right? Like, fuck the old people that go to the game.

Like... It just was inappropriate. That's all. And by the way, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't get her. I really don't. I don't think everybody should be tripping. Like, it shouldn't be a topic of conversation.

Shout out to Lizzo. I think she got what she wanted out of it. She got the attention. She got the headlines. She did. And by the way, neither one of y'all said, both of y'all said y'all wouldn't wear it. Exactly. But that's not our style, though.

I don't even show skin. I don't wear heels. I don't show skin. I don't do that. I don't even feel comfortable with bikini. I don't. So you just, it's. It's not going to happen.

I have a question, though. So, back to Rihanna. Not the ass thing, but, like, many girls, like, don't wear bras like that no more, right? And I remember seeing, oh, maybe it wasn't Rihanna, but she had, like, a, what are they called, what are the feeter? Yeah, but she never wears a bra. Yeah, but you can see her tattas. Like, is that inappropriate? Tis ain't sacred anymore.

And she has nibble reed. See? No, I'm going to keep it hunting. No, Titties is not sacred no more. I'll be seeing girls all the time Like titty just be out I had to smile on his face As he talks about him

I just like You used to aspire to see tities Like tithies is just everywhere All the time It's not even a thing Like So that's not appropriate Oh wow

And you don't think I didn't say No wait wait wait wait wait Wait wait wait No no no no No There's the thing though This is the problem

This is the problem with y'all generation Y'all don't give nothing No context What's the context of where she was wearing it at? What is the thing? They know what? It has something to do with everything. Everything.

You don't see it regardless. You can see it on the street. If she did it at the circus. She did do that basketball game, though, before. Who? Rihanna did what? Why did this? Tijuana?

Rihanna ain't never had her song at a game out. I'm not talking about the song, though. I'm asking another question. I don't know the question. The basketball game is a family event. Do you all think that, okay, so like I said, do y' all think that if they had their, if you could see her tities, right?

Time out. I don't even want you to defend the point because you wouldn't do it. So why are you defending the point if you wouldn't do it? Because I'm saying... No, first of all, tell me why you wouldn't do it?

Because that's not my style. Why is it not your style? I'm just like, even if it's not her style. Why is it not your style? She don't got to knock somebody for doing it. I'm not knocking her. Tell me why it's not your style.

Because you don't think it's appropriate. Just say it. It's okay. No, because look. Like y'all be dying on hills. You don't got to die on. You don't think it's appropriate. It's not appropriate.

That's not dying on a hill. Do you think it's appropriate? All jokes aside, seriously. You think it's appropriate? But I do it. I ain't ask you that. Do you think it's appropriate? Do you think it's appropriate?

All right. I don't think it's appropriate. But if she wants to do it, I'm not going to knock on her. Because she's a big girl. That's why. Y'all want her to feel better. No. It's nothing.

No. No. You let her, baby. Live your truth. That's who you is. You're comfortable. What you're saying is absolutely right. You may not find it appropriate, but she absolutely has the right to do it.

And guess what? People have the right to criticize her. And that's what happens when you put yourself out there to do that type of stuff. Absolutely. People are going to have an opinion. Yo, Sean, I just want people to know that. I know niggas to be saying all the time that only God could judge me, God is not your only judge. God is not your only judge.

Niggas get hit with years every day and people get hit with judgment every day. God is not your only judge. The truth of the matter is God ain't thinking about you. I'm being totally honest with you. God is not thinking about you. But us niggas are. And when we see you on the gram and we can comment. and we can have an opinion, we're going to have it.

Absolutely. That's just the truth to the matter. That's just what it is. All right. Nala got to go catch her ride. I don't want her to get five stars. Yo. She got to go do her pickup.

And if anybody ever wants a ride, you know, I got a two-door. It is real? Yeah. I got a two-door coop. But it's smell good. I drive safe. Oh, Nala making scarves now, too. Oh, yeah.

That's her new hustle. I was like a scarf because you. The texture of it was really nice. I call it scoff face. Scarface. They're so jealous because of flight. That's a dope name for a bridge. Scarface is lit.

The flight attendant stopped and was like, wow, how are you doing this? That's not true. The flight attendant stopped and said, do you have a dog? I smell a dog. That's what happened. Oh, my God. So this is the scarf. This one, this is the jumbo one.

It covers neck, ears, nose, mouth. You know what I'm saying? It'd be really cold. Very ninja-like. How much they're going for? It's great. The Jumbo one is going for $100. You can get it on Etsy,

or if you know me personally, you can DME. And they handcrafted. Yes, make them by a hand and take mad long, okay. What if I wanted before Christmas? I can get it to you. You know, we're going to have to talk, but I'm sure I can get it to you. Do you have a red one like that?

How long does it? I would like to purchase a red one. We don't know still gang banging, you know what I'm saying? Stop it. Put a sophisticated gangbanger. Talk on the mic, Naila. Oh, I'm sorry. I also have it where it's not the jumble one.

It's the regular one. one, you know what I'm saying? Those are going for 50. For guys, we don't have the tassels or the beads, you know what I'm saying? They just get cut regular, so it look like. I want the tassels on mine. You want the tassels? I want the tassels.

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