The Brilliant Idiots - Selective Intercourse
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Hezzy is here.
Yo, what's up?
What's up, Hezzi?
How was your weekend, man?
I got to tell you something, man.
Talk to me.
Anxiety was playing tricks on me yesterday.
What happened?
I like your fit today, by the way.
Thank you, man, I'm out here.
I went to get an MRI.
Okay.
Have you ever had an MRI?
Come on, man.
Okay, of course.
Come on, man.
You've been in the tube.
MRI, EKG.
The whole thing.
What you want, man.
Okay, so I go to get the MRI, and you're stuck in the tube when you get the MRI.
and they're just doing this like a,
I'm not exactly sure what it is.
I don't know if it's radio waves or microwaves or something,
but they're shooting in parts of your body.
What are they looking for?
I have some shoulder shit.
Okay, okay.
Fucked up.
And I'm in the tube,
and all of a sudden I start feeling as if I can't get a full breath.
You open your eyes?
Well, I open my eyes, I close my eyes.
I'm trying to just kind of fall asleep,
and my brain is going.
And then all of a sudden it just feels like I can't get a full breath.
And I understand that there's nothing,
impeding my breath. It's only my mind playing tricks on me. I'm literally thinking about your both
them. You might be claustrophobic and I realize. Maybe it's that. Yeah. You know, I'm going back to
that time where I almost drowned and I'm like, and then I did this interesting thing. I started thinking
about a long time ago when girls used to come over to my apartment give me head. And it relaxed me. I
swear to God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It relaxed me. And I remember just in that moment, I'm stuck in this
tube and I'm like, oh my God, this is so uncomfortable.
But I kept thinking about these girls.
It would come over and they'd knock on my door and I'd let
him in and they'd give me head.
And my breathing came back.
That's exactly what you're supposed to do.
And it is amazing, the power.
A therapist will tell you that.
A therapist will say to you, think about-
Girls who just throated you up.
That?
When you're at feeling-
They'll tell you, just think about things that make you happy.
Yes.
You know what I'm saying?
Think about vacation.
Yes.
Think about your wife.
Think about things.
Just think about positive things.
And then certain girls I thought about it and it was like,
Ooh, they were really stressful, and then the breathing started to go away.
That's right.
And then there are other girls that they really went at it.
I believe that it's never the moment.
It's your feelings about said moment.
So it's never the circumstance, right?
Like a lot of times we think it's the circumstance.
Yes, 100%.
It's just the feeling you have of that circumstance because it might trigger something else.
But isn't that amazing that things that you think about can affect your actual physiology, the way that you breathe?
Listen about what you said.
You said something else that we kind of skipped over, but you was in the,
MRI.
Yeah.
You said you thought about
the time he was about to drown.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
So you change that thought immediately
by thinking about
something that makes you feel good.
Yeah.
What other things could I think about?
Your wife being on stage,
like moments in your life
that made you happy?
Like we have a memory bank
of things that make us happy.
Think about things that calm you.
Like for me is like beach.
I always think about the beach.
See, I started thinking about the beach.
and I was like, fuck, I drown in that bitch.
Oh, all right.
You know what I mean?
Like, I would think about these things,
then I'd be like, ooh, there's something stressful associated with it.
Yeah.
So I was, I started going,
what is the most selfless act that has ever been bestowed upon me?
And it's a girl coming over and doing that.
Right.
I mean, laying down that brought you there.
We're men.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What?
She's right.
What happened?
What did you say?
It's laying down in that position that made me think and feeling helpless.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
toes curls, grabbing the sheets.
By the way, that is a very, by the way, not only is it a selfless act,
you have to be very trusting to let a random woman give you oral sex.
That's true.
What? That's not true.
Are you kidding?
You can bite your fucking dick off.
Okay.
I'm dead-ass serious.
Think about this as a man.
Think about this as a man.
The last random person that we offered our penis, cut the tip of it off.
Whoa.
Think about the anxiety.
The last random person that we offered our penis.
Snip the tip of it off.
Think about the anxiety that we have.
And the trust needs to be built.
You didn't offer that, though.
What do you mean I didn't offer it?
I hit him with the goo-goo-gaga, snip it up.
Actually, you didn't offer it, but somebody did something to you that they thought would be good for you.
That's head.
That's head.
Somebody doing something for you that they think would be good for you.
I'm very grateful.
You know what I mean?
Women give you head if you don't want it.
Say that one more time.
Women give you head if you don't want it.
Women give you head.
If you don't want it.
If you don't want it.
And then think something's wrong with you if you don't want it.
You know what's crazy?
We think so highly of women.
We call it giving us head.
When they're sucking something out of it, they're taking, really.
Oh, no.
But we view it as a gift.
They're definitely given.
Yeah, yeah.
Is they given?
It's given. It's given.
We're giving.
You're not giving shit.
If you do it right.
In fact, the only time I...
At the end it gives it gives it.
the end.
You know, now did I think about it?
It does if you do it correctly.
I've never heard a man say I got some head.
I always hear men say she gave me some head.
But women, they made a fucking song about getting head.
Wow.
I was getting some head.
I was getting some head.
God damn.
It's crazy how sexes women are and we don't even discuss it.
And nobody talking about this shit.
Don't ever.
That is a girl, give you head.
You give her the gift of the head and then she's going to go spit it out right in front of you.
You give her the gift of this.
God, man. Even now, you thought I was feeling you. You're just a fucking munch.
Imagine we called them munches after the-day. Yo, you spoke about women. You spoke about women
on this podcast. You spoke about getting ahead. Now, once did you call a lady out her name, bro?
Never once did you say she was just to suck? She was just to throw. You ain't say none of that,
bro. I would never do that. That's because y'all not rappers. The rappers do it every day.
We're not rappers. We're just married guys. Faithfully married men. Faithfully married men.
They're happy. When you lay back, you think about what brought you the most peace.
I didn't think about peace.
I thought about pure
angelic kindness.
And I'm just like, what is the
what is the most calming thing in the world?
Hearing your doorbell buzzed 2 a.m.
Right?
Hearing the girl walk to the door
and you're doing those stretches,
the mouth stretches.
Man, you are.
I don't know what you're preaching.
I don't know what got into you today
to have this anointing, but continue.
But I'm just saying,
and I thought about the kind of,
and I'd look through the people in my door
and I'd see them out there.
Doing like this.
Doing like this.
I'm like,
is she think we're going to box
or what the hell's going on?
And then they come inside
and then rain the heavens upon me.
Rain the heavens upon me.
Wipe away my sins of the day.
If women look at fellatio
the way us men do,
y'all wouldn't suck so many random dicks.
You know what I mean?
Y'all wouldn't just give that up so much.
Straight up.
Isn't that?
I never felt like I need to snap after somebody said something right there.
It's not like the same as getting box.
There's one way and more.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Why are you talking about it like that?
Well, like, it's having sex.
But get in box.
Like, I would never refer to a woman's vagina like that.
It's wild now.
It's not just a box.
The way y'all don't respect yourselves.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
Maybe that's why y'all so sexist because you really hate yourself.
It's unbelievable, yo.
Why don't you talk about that?
It's beautiful.
A box?
Just a box.
A box.
A box.
Just put clothes in when I want to.
ship something?
Nah.
Shut up.
That is crazy.
You know, and then they get upset
when we just send them out the house
right after you.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what you do at a box.
You take a box
and you send it somewhere else.
Ship it out.
Why don't you stop treating yourself
like boxes you might not get shipped out?
Isn't the same equivalence?
One is higher than the other?
What do you mean?
Because you said if you knew
would admit to men, you wouldn't do it
as often.
But isn't like having sex
the same.
It's a part of it.
Oh, you talk about men having random sex with women?
Yeah.
I don't know anything about it.
We have to have sex with y'all or else you all think we're gay.
This is crazy.
That's the thing that's fucked up.
That's the other thing.
We wouldn't even want to have sex with y'all unless we're in love.
That's right.
But if we don't fuck y'all, he's gay.
That's right.
That's right.
That's not true.
Can't even take a picture with the boy.
Y'all do it for your friend.
You think something's wrong with him, though.
I've heard many women say stories about how he got a little penis.
That's why he don't want me to give him filatio.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, he's gay.
That's why he don't want to have sex with me.
Can I tell you a personal story about how crazy women are?
Okay.
I had a girl that wanted to give me head when I was a youngster.
I was just in high school, first year of high school.
This girl was absolutely beautiful.
She was in high school too?
She was in high school too.
Okay.
Absolutely beautiful woman.
I didn't have pubic hair yet.
So you didn't want to show her your...
I didn't want to let her down.
Word up, word up.
I knew how much girls loved pubic hair.
Where, where, where, where.
And I was worried that if I pulled my hair.
my pants out and there wasn't a big, thick, tough
the pubic hair.
Women do love pubic hair.
She wouldn't want to suck it.
I've heard a lot of women say the favorite part of pubic care is just taking it out
their teeth.
Hell yeah.
You never heard that?
Of course.
What happened?
You think you think you're going to have a quinoa bowl.
You're not going to have a little suck between your teeth.
You're going to take some pubic hair to pluck that shit out?
Come on, guy.
Come on.
Why are y'all are you acting?
Y'all are you asking.
You're all you're asking.
You know this stuff already.
Come on.
They said their favorite part.
That's crazy.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
All I'm trying to say is you don't understand the insecurities at Manfield.
Well, I think that story is fair.
Yeah, you should have just save her and not show her anything.
Oh, you did end up showing her.
I didn't show her.
That's right.
That's right.
And what did she do to you?
Is she shamed me for that?
Yeah, she thought I was scared or she thought that I didn't like her.
Wow.
She thought I was gay.
Wow.
Does that happen in your adult?
Wow.
Wow.
I said lucky guests.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
What do you mean?
You know what I'm saying?
Come on, you know.
Now he got to pretend to be homosexual because he's a shame.
Teenage years, sure.
I right y'all think I'm gay that I don't have a fat tub of pubes.
That's crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
Come on.
It's really crazy, yo.
It's really crazy, man.
What else happened this weekend, man?
We had a great weekend.
I went to go see MJ the musical.
Love yourself.
Did you see MJ the musical?
Of course I saw MJ to talk to me.
You talked to me.
You just saw it.
Hold on.
I had to text my wife.
All right.
I'll talk.
Okay, go ahead.
Boom.
No, no, it's
It shows the power of the music
Yeah
The music is so exceptional
That you're willing to watch
Multiple fake MJs
Play MJ
And then when they're out there
Was it like the Dominican looking one
The light skin one?
Which one?
The lead?
The lead, yeah
House Frost
Oh my God
It's just amazing
God damn
You shouldn't be able to act
And dance that good
And sing
You know I can't be allowed
I was, you know
It's a lot of things
I was thinking
But I was like
What is his vertical?
that motherfucker was jumping through the roof.
Like, I ain't thought about no shit like that
unless I'm watching basketball.
I've never looked at a man
just performing on stage jumping
and be like, what is his vertical?
Yeah.
Like the way he was bouncing,
I'm like, was there a trampoline or something
at certain parts of the stage?
You don't think?
Charlie, I mean, there's a whole part of the stage
that he just shoots out of it.
I remember that part,
but there was another part
where he was just bouncing, bro,
on some tigger from Winnie to Pool shit, bro.
You didn't see that shit, yo?
Go back and watch it again.
You're going to be like, damn.
You're like the weirdest guy.
You're the weirdest guy.
You're like, you're watching the history of Michael Jackson's life.
And the only thing you think about is how high can this Dominican jump?
That motherfucker was bouncing, bro.
Like, yes.
I look to see if it's saying.
Bouncing to what part?
Miles fraud.
What song?
It was at the end when, uh, it was, it was like towards, it was at the end when everybody came out on stage and he, they just started performing like, I don't want to see random songs.
I'm sure if you go again, it'll be the same songs.
They were bowing.
Yes, man.
motherfucker was bouncing, but
I thoroughly enjoyed it just because, man.
Yeah, it's him. Miles Frost.
Pretty little motherfucker. Beast, man.
Yes. Is that him right there?
No, that's the other Michael. That's the middle Michael.
All the Michaels did their job.
No, no, but Miles Frost,
he deserved to be. By the way, I hate you
motherfuckers at Broadway that have to record, man. I hate anybody that goes to a place
where they tell you not to record and y'all record. Like, I'm that guy.
I literally called one of the ushers on somebody.
He's recording.
Word is gone, yo.
At the date of this shit.
Because you know why?
I'm going to tell you why.
Because the Usher's kept flashing the life when they were three people do that shit, right?
And at the end, I'm looking at this motherfucker in front of me.
And he's just like catching them at the end.
Why do you want to fuck up somebody's moment?
I hate that shit.
How you know that's not their family?
I don't give a shit.
If that's your family, that's all the more reason not to record.
Why you want to put this man?
So you tattletail?
Immediately.
I thought Usher, I look back.
the guy called Oz with me
No
You got to be kidding
I do like
I'm like
Charla come on
Charlotte
What do we call
Blackmail
Keenons
That was
That was
Fuck that
I hate it man
Stop fucking
With people's art
You know
What piss me off
About the Chris Rock
Special
The fact that
That emancipation joke
leaked the day before
Oh
You know what I'm saying
I don't like that
Like stop ruining
People's routines
People work hard at this shit
That's facts
with comedy where like you need the surprise.
Yes, man.
With something like this, like we know what happened in Michael Jackson's life.
You know, so this is not about, oh, you're going to surprise us with something.
But I do understand what you're saying with the stand-up, yeah.
Spend your money.
Spend your money. Come watch this show like the rest of it.
Bro, can I tell you my favorite part of that Michael Jackson musical?
Talk to me.
The thriller sequence.
Oh, my God.
Where they basically juxtaposed his father, Joe Jackson, as the monster and thriller.
and then what is Michael becoming?
He's becoming his father.
And it's just, oh, it was so cool.
I never looked at Thriller in that way.
The other thing about that was a part of it.
I just like, sorry to interrupt you,
but he got, he started treating the people that were working with him.
He was working them to death.
He was, the dancers don't have a break and the people design the set don't have a break.
And he's not realizing that he's taking on these traits from his dad that he hated.
He's become, he's become what he was.
He's on the monster.
You know what I mean?
But not just to the people around him, to himself.
Yeah.
Michael didn't know how to disconnect.
Yeah.
Because Joe pushed him like that.
He only knew one way to go.
Full steam ahead all the time.
One way to do it.
Killing him.
Yo, I walked away from that shit saying like, yo, there's no such thing as perfect.
And there was another part in the movie with a guy who was his manager was like,
you got to stop chasing your last success.
Bro, Michael was a once.
Michael achieved a feat that no.
in the history of life will ever achieve again.
And sometimes you have to be okay with that.
Selling a hundred million records of one album and a time where motherfuckers had to go buy tapes.
I don't even know if CDs was out there.
Had to go to the store.
With CDs out there?
Yeah, I don't even think CDs was quite out yet.
Come on, man.
Yeah, that's great.
Yo, nobody will ever achieve that again.
That is a once-in-a-lifetime, you know, life-changing success.
You make the most money you're ever going to make.
You create the most generational wealth you're going to create.
and then you take that money and do other things.
But he did, he thought that was the bar.
Yeah, but.
And it was for him.
Yeah.
My favorite part was when the manager was saying,
it's about music makes great stories, not the artist.
But it's funny because, like, Kim Osario and a lot of journalism and hip hop are, like,
what's the story behind the person today?
So it's like times have changed where back then.
Oh, yeah.
Now you want the engaging character and then the music is kind of like an excuse to engage.
It's like an accessory.
Honestly, at this point...
Real talk.
If your life is interesting enough,
people will enjoy your music
because it's a reflection of that life.
It's almost like everybody's a reality star.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what happened to Michael.
Michael got to the point where his life became bigger
than anything he could possibly do in the music.
Like Michael got to the point where you wanted to know everything about Michael.
You didn't care how good the music was because the music never stopped being great.
Bad was good.
Dangerous was good.
But when he started all the plastic surgery and he walked,
walking around with bubbles and he's, is he sleeping with the elephant man's bones?
Is he in an oxygen chamber?
You know, is he a pedophile?
All of this shit, you care about all these other things other than his music.
Michael Jackson became bigger than any music he could put out.
That is facts, bro.
And they didn't touch that pedophile story at all.
I'm glad they did.
I really didn't even want them to touch the pills that much either.
Touched the what?
The pills.
The pills were part of it because that's what.
The pills are part of it because during the dangerous story because that's when, I think
that's, if I'm not mistaken, that's the last.
last one he was preparing for.
With the MTV girl.
And that's what pushed him to even get on those pills so much
and the anesthesia and everything else.
The last one was...
The dangerous tour.
No, no, no. It was one
more time.
Oh, yeah, because they put out a dock.
This is it.
This is it.
Yeah, yeah.
It was a tour he was working.
So what tour was he working on in the dock?
That was way back.
That was like 90s, I think.
Oh, got you, got you, got you.
Nah, I'm glad they didn't show his death.
I'm glad they let us get lost in the music
and lost in how.
the music made you feel it. I mean, it is, dude, it sounds corny to say it, but you're sitting there
and the energy around the music. It's like every single person there was singing. Everybody
was clapping. I haven't seen that much connectivity in a Broadway play ever. Because that's our era.
That's our era though. Bro. We came up in that. It's different when you go see musicals of music
you came up on. I ain't know none of them songs. It's true. Like if it's Bruce Springsteen's play,
everybody was probably singing that shit too. That's go crazy. Like Hamilton, those were
original songs. I didn't know none of them shit. It was dope. Yeah. But when you in there and
You hear Thriller and you hearing Billy Jean and all that shit.
Oh, my God, man.
And I'm glad they didn't touch on the little boy shit because I want to think about that while I'm singing.
And I think I think Michael was innocent.
I do not think Michael Jackson touched those little boys in no way shape of him.
You entitled to think that, right?
You know what I'm saying?
Like that man was investigated by the FBI for 17 fucking years.
The FBI and they found nothing.
It's the FBI.
Investigated you for 17 years.
they investigated YASL for 17 months
and they got everything
you know what I'm saying
so they investigated you for 17 years
you think they're not going to find nothing
not a phone call
a little boy breathing over the phone something
come on man stop Michael was
innocent and the two men
said when they were younger
that their parents put them up to it
you know what I mean
but then they recanted that much later in life
and did the documentary and everything
whatever I think Michael was innocent
I'm entitled to my opinion
and I think everybody should go see MJ the musical.
It's really fun.
It's phenomenal.
The story is fine.
Like, you know, it's, they put together a story.
You've got to find a way to root for somebody and make him the underdog in a situation where he's clearly not the underdog.
He's like an incredibly wealthy guy.
So they're like, will, the story's basically like, will they be able to build the contraption that shoots him out of the ground?
And he's like, I really want it.
And there's guys like, we can't afford it.
He goes, I don't care.
Sell the house.
But not.
Even before that, though.
That was like in the middle.
They started doing that towards the middle.
Right, but, like, I'm saying, like, that's the reason why you're kind of, like, holding on, that's the arc that they're trying to say where he goes, I'm willing to put up, I'm really a mortgage, never land, you know what I mean?
And they have to find a way that.
He leveraged that too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like it.
I like the beginning of it, too, because, you know, even though he was a child star.
Yeah.
There was that period where it's like, what do I do next?
You know what I'm saying?
How do I become an adult?
Well, dude, you know?
I was thinking about this.
I'm thinking about this a lot.
like, you have to continue to evolve in everything.
Yeah.
And I think, and I'm not as familiar with the Beatles music as like, obviously,
a super Beatles fan.
But one thing that I talk to Beatles fans about is,
and that they often say is that the Beatles would continually evolve.
Very overrated group, if you ask.
You could, you could say that.
That's fine.
Elton John, Sting, whoever else is in the Beatles.
I'm not, I'm not debating whether they overrate or not.
I am saying that they went from one type of music.
and then did a completely different one
and then another completely different one
and that takes immense balls
and I have no idea because I've never heard a phone
that's fair that's fair that's right no no don't get into the thing
he's doing his whole thing
it's okay it's fine it's fine it's good
he took the bait
and really just moving it right past it
so so what I admire about that
is like it's very easy like
for example like I'll give you an example
of stand up for
this next tour that I eventually will go on
when I put it all together.
Right now, like I'm writing,
and it was really hard for me
when I started writing new stuff.
It was really hard.
And I was like, why is this hard?
And I specifically thought it was like,
I don't want to just do a different version
of the jokes I've done before.
And this happens a lot of music.
It happens a lot of different genres
where you have something that works
and you just go, okay, I'm going to like remix it.
It'll be similar topics
and similar ideas, whatever.
like that. And I was like, no, I really want to evolve. I want to talk about something else. I want to
reflect more of my personal life. I want to reflect on like the change that's happened in my life.
There's a lot that's happened that's different than it was four years ago. And I think the
artists that continue there, they have this amazing longevity, look at like a Jay-Z, like this
amazing longevity is their art is reflecting where they are in their life. So when we see them,
we go, oh, it's not that same shit I heard a bunch of times. It's, oh, this is new. You're talking about
in art? Yeah, we can call it corny
or yeah, we can call it rich people
problems or whatever, or we can go,
wow, that's kind of cool that you're reflecting
the level you're on instead of just trying to
repeat the success you have.
Very interesting, and you're absolutely right,
and you can look at it a couple of ways
because there's artists like a Jay-Z
who at one point dropped the album every year.
But every album, to your point,
when you listen to it, you know exactly
where Jay-Z is at in his life at that moment.
But then you can look at somebody like
a Chris Rock who said,
he always gives himself time to go live life.
So when you speak about evolution,
if I'm 20 and I put out a stand-up special,
if I write another special within that year or two,
it's probably going to still sound like...
You went through all the same shit.
You have all your opinions about those things,
and eventually, if you keep on doing the same shit,
over a long amount of time,
it sounds like you're doing an impression of yourself.
Musically, comedically, any of these things.
And also, he would just look a little corny
trying to keep up with the time.
Yeah, like I want to, I'm more interested.
I don't know, the way I've always looked at stand up is like, the bigger you get,
the more personal it can get.
Because now people are investing in your life.
In the beginning, I thought, well, who the fuck am I?
Why does somebody care about my day?
I don't know.
Like, I wanted to talk about the topics.
I wanted to talk about the issues because I didn't have the arrogance to be like,
everybody should shut up and just listen to me, tell them my story about what happened
when I bumped into a homeless person.
But eventually when you get some fans, you get some fame.
You can explore this part of yourself because these people invest in your life.
They want to know what's going on your life.
You think podcasts ruined that for standups?
I think it made it better because I think that they're even more invested
and they understand kind of who you are as a three-dimensional person.
But being that you give so much of your personal life in your stand-up,
I mean in your podcast every week,
when you're actually sitting down to write your stand-up,
did your mind say, oh, you already said that?
Well, I think what my mind says that now about topical shit.
So it's like before where I'd write a bunch of topical jokes,
I'm just like, no, I'm going to get these takes out on the pot.
I have an avenue where millions of people are going to see.
I can get my topical takes out.
You and I can fucking riff.
We can go on flagrant.
We can riff and just write these funny, not write these, but like think of these funny takes
or whatever.
And I feel that satisfied.
And then my stand-up can reflect kind of like how I'm relating to the world.
This is like Jim for you.
And then I'll be honest on stage too.
Yeah.
But like I was really frustrated.
I'll be honest on the beginning.
I was like really frustrated.
I was like, the fuck is going on.
And then I had to like sit back and reflect.
I was like, oh, it's supposed to be frustrating.
This is new.
You're reflecting on your life.
Are you giving yourself enough time?
Maybe you're not giving yourself enough time?
Oh, I haven't locked in anything.
I am not, I take this, yeah, I don't want to tour until it is, it is ready.
Yeah.
It is something I'm really proud of.
Maybe.
And that's fine.
There's no rush.
There's no rush.
That's why I like when Kendry takes this time between albums.
I told my agents.
I literally said, I was like, listen, I'm not agreeing to, I'm not agreeing to a tour.
I'm not putting on a tour just yet.
I'm going to do these shows and I'm going to work out this material and continue to work
I'm working out in the city every single week, but I'm not going to tour because there's a dollar
amount attached to it. I'm going to tour because I built something I'm really proud of and I want
to share with people. That's the time that happens. And it takes time to do that. Yeah.
I could go through like a growth spurt where I go, okay, this is awesome. I got 20 new minutes. I'm
really proud of. And I could go through months where I'm like, God damn, man, I can't get this thing
to work. And that's part of it, man. Exactly. That's part of it. I think the rarest, the hardest thing to
do nowadays is entertain people
for real. I'm not even joking.
For us to go to Broadway and watch a Broadway play,
that's why I get mad at the person recording it.
Like, enjoy the moment. But this motherfucker's
entertaining you for real. You know what I mean?
The reason I still like stand-up, because
people are purposely crafting
hours to go out there and entertain you
for real. You know what I mean? We live in an era.
This shit don't take nothing
to entertain the motherfucker. I can just go on my phone and watch a
motherfucking in a bag and then putting it to somebody's face and everybody.
I die laughing every time.
It's amazing.
Come on.
It's hilarious.
You know what I mean?
So good.
But my point is it's very hard to like strictly entertain, you know.
Andrew's trying to avoid talking about Chris Rock's stand-up special.
He don't like talking about other people's stand-up specials.
But he's going to talk about it today.
You know what I mean?
Chris Rock's stand-up special that we saw this weekend, selective outrage.
That's the other thing I saw.
I saw a lot of good entertainment this weekend.
Thoughts.
Whoever wants to go first.
Naila hated it because she's 12
I didn't hate it
I did not hate it
I told you my dad called me
saying how amazing it was
but the first half of it was him
like going in on his daughter so I thought my dad
was like being subliminal
this is what the fuck
this is why it's hard to entertain
not even just hard to entertain
hard to do anything in front of these cameras
because people don't actually allow
themselves to feel what's happening
all they do is project their
feelings about what's happening
on to you.
You don't even allow yourself.
I liked it.
I just think people,
we don't even allow ourselves time
to digest anything.
Now,
everybody loves
the last 10 minutes
of Chris Rock special.
I'm not talking about
the 10 minute part.
I like where he's talking
about Storm on the Capitol.
I thought that was great.
That's,
those are my favorite parts,
but everybody likes the Will thing.
If you went into this special
wanting to hear Chris talk about Will,
did you pay attention
to anything else?
If all you could think
When are you going to talk about Will?
When are you going to talk about Will?
Are you allowing yourself to feel anything else, to hear anything else?
But he walked us into it with the foreshadowing.
I don't want to pawn with no rappers.
With no other rappers, absolutely.
The Jay Z and the Beyonce thing.
I think he did a good job with the foreshadow.
Break your rules, Schultz.
Shorts does not like talking about other people with Sandberg.
I don't, yeah.
Like, if comedians are in the news, I would like talking about that.
Yes.
But I don't like.
He's in the news.
He's in the news for other things.
Like the Will Smith slap thing we talk about all the time.
Okay.
But comedians.
The comedian's art, you know, gets enough criticism and that kind of stuff.
I just like the comedian's art to speak for itself.
And I like not, I like to hear non-comedians talk about it, but you have to understand.
Like, this, I know what it's like to go through to create an hour and to put it out there in front of people.
It's an incredibly vulnerable situation.
So as comedians, it's hard for us to just go and, like, go and pick apart these things.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I've seen that set.
This is my third time seeing the set.
I saw it last summer at the garden.
and I saw it last month in North Charleston.
When I saw it last summer at the garden,
he had no Will Smith material.
And I saw it last month in North Charleston,
he had a lot of that Will Smith material.
You know what I'm saying?
He didn't have the emancipation joke,
which y'all can kiss my ass.
I thought was hilarious.
Were people upset about it?
Yes, you know what I mean?
I thought that joke was funny as fuck.
People were actually upset about it?
Some of the movie and the whipping?
Yeah.
For concussion?
I didn't know Jayda Finke called him
told him not to do that show.
Not to host, yeah.
I can say everybody knew that, but people, yeah,
mad people knew that, you know what I mean?
That's terrible.
But the emancipation joke was funny
when he said he was so mad at Will
and he watched emancipation just to see him get whipped.
I have rooted for Will Smith
my whole life
I root for this motherfucker, okay?
And now,
I watch emancipation
just to see him get whipped.
Got me root.
for Massa, okay?
And hit him again, Massa.
Hit him again.
You missed the spot, Massa.
You missed the spot.
A lot of people go, Chris,
how come you didn't do nothing back?
How come you didn't do nothing back that night?
Because I got parents.
That's why.
Because I was raised.
I got parents.
And you know what my parents taught me?
Don't fight in front of white people.
That's a joke.
It was funny.
It's a joke from a comedian.
I don't even understand why people take that as anything literal.
He's not literally getting whipped in the movie either.
Exactly.
Nothing about this is real.
He's not even making fun of slavery.
It's just a ill premise.
It says hyperbole.
Like, I watched the banthapation to watch those people get whipped.
Like, come on, man.
You know what I mean?
He could have said, I watched Ali again just to watch him lose the Frazier.
Like anything, you know?
It bothered me a little bit just the live fact.
Because the internet told you to.
No, no, no, the live fact.
Because the internet told you to.
Just the fact that he stumbled over that joke.
So he like, he kind of gave up the punchline.
Yeah.
The live fact.
Wait, when?
I don't remember that.
Yeah, he said, uh.
Because he said the wrong name.
He goes, it's called concussion.
See, I didn't even notice it because I saw it on the internet the day before.
Okay.
And everybody told me it was a mansipation.
So I didn't even notice that concussion.
In the live version, and this is the, obviously, the risk of doing something
live. In the live version, he says, he goes,
he goes, Jada,
Jada didn't want me to host the Oscars because her husband wasn't nominated for,
was emancipation. Yeah. Oh, he meant to take a concussion. He meant to take concussion.
The punchline is then concussion later. So he even says in the special, he goes, he goes,
I fucked up the joke. Yeah. And then it kind of fucked up the emancipation joke, though.
It did because. He said that movie before. He was supposed to come back. He was supposed to say that
movie. Yeah. Oh, see, I didn't even care.
Whatever.
Years ago, his wife said, I should quit the Oscars.
I shouldn't host because her man didn't get nominated for emancipation.
The biggest piece of shit ever.
Okay?
And then so the nigger gives me a fucking, a fucking concussion.
No, not a bansubation.
I fucked up the joke.
Concussion.
She fucking said he should quit because Will didn't get nominated for concussion.
To your point about live, I would never do a live.
stand-up.
Yeah, I guess my feeling with the live stand-up thing is that, like, it doesn't, I understand
creating a gimmick for someone to watch your special.
I think that that makes sense.
That's marketing and that's smart.
If he didn't have the Will Smith thing, do it live.
Because now you have a gimmick, people go, well, I just want to see what could happen if he
does it live, right?
I don't like live.
Well, just, just take this in.
But he already had a hook, the most powerful.
hook and stand-up history.
Everybody wants to see what...
So don't add more pressure on the moment.
Just record four shows to use the best show,
cut them together, do whatever you want.
Do it.
Nobody's watching it to see if you're going to get the words right or not.
We want to watch you deliver your best performance.
So that's what I would have wished that they focused on.
Yeah, I wish they...
I hope that they did tape, you know, him throughout his talk.
because he wore the same thing every show he did.
He wore the white suit with the Prince thing.
So he did that.
He's doing that since last year at the guard.
So I hope they do put out this special in the way it's supposed to be taped.
But I wonder if he did the live thing just for him.
I think everybody's saying, oh, he did that for Netflix.
Maybe he did that to challenge himself.
Maybe.
You know what I'm saying?
He was going to get 20 million from Netflix regardless.
I agree with that.
I feel like he's trying to test his skill.
Yeah.
It wasn't like it was a paper review where they was paying for it.
You know what I mean?
I think he did that.
Let me go out here and do this.
I want to do this.
By the way, he did create a spectacle.
You know, 40th Law & Pals said,
you've got to create a compelling spectacle.
Hey, when have we ever seen everybody tuned into a stand-up special?
Like, it's a sporting event.
All the years, we've watched stand-up specials on these big networks,
these big platforms.
And don't get me wrong, social media wasn't around for, you know,
the Rawls and all of that back in the day.
But the fact that everybody was tuned in on a Saturday night to this shit,
like it was a sporting event.
That's great for comedy.
But it's not because it's not because it's not.
live. I think it was because it was
live. Everything live on
social media is different shows. Everything. That's not true.
Award shows. Yeah.
I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest with you.
It's not true. He'd never got that many people
watching that shit at one time like that on the Saturday.
Yes, he would. Nah. It's not because it's live.
It's because of what happened. If they had just put this shit on
Netflix, people would have watched it.
But when everybody gathers around
at one time to watch something, there's nothing
like it on social media. Bro, I know.
The whole reason why we
did the release the way that we did for, for my last special was specifically for it.
There was a short window where you could watch it because I wanted everybody to watch it
at the same time.
All right.
Right.
And that was the issue with Netflix specials and specials in generals that they would just sit
there and everybody would get to them while they could.
So I want to create some scarcity.
Like this is only up for now.
So live does do that.
Don't get me wrong.
But people weren't tuned in because it was live.
They were tuned in because one of the greatest comics ever was about to deliver his revenge on
a man who slapped him in the face and publicly humiliated.
True, but they were tuning because it was live, bro.
It all goes hand in hand.
It's both.
Yeah, it's definitely both.
Sure, it's percentages.
He doesn't even do that live without that hook.
10%.
He don't even do that live without that hook.
Don't do what?
He doesn't do the show live without the Will Smith hook to it.
Agreed.
What does that mean?
He doesn't go live if he doesn't have the Will Smith angle.
If there's no Will Smith angle to this, like, oh, he got slapped at the Oscars,
hasn't spoke about it in the year.
He doesn't even go live.
He just does a special like he's been doing it and puts it out.
The fact he's got the Will Smith hook, let's bring everybody in.
And I bet you the numbers for Saturday night was crazy.
Yeah, there's no question.
Yeah, I just wouldn't do it.
I just, and you said the same shit.
Yeah, I don't like, I do not like live stand-up.
I want to see.
You like live stand-up.
I like, yes.
You just don't like watching it live through the TV.
But I'm a comedy connoisseur.
So I go to comedy shows.
So being that I go to comedy shows, I know what they expect.
I know it's not perfect.
I know they're going to be crowd-women.
I know they might stumble over shit and come back to it.
When I'm watching it on TV, I don't want to see that because for the people who don't
watch stand-up, they're overly critical of it.
But I still think he did a great job.
I thought he embodied it.
Yeah.
I thought it was, I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it.
He has some great bars.
Great bars.
He has some great bars.
No question.
And, yeah, it's just a, listen, it was great to see that many people interested in stand-up.
It's great that he created an event that people were curious about.
And it's great that he got to finally, in Baltimore.
And then finally reflect on, like, what?
happened and use his comedic genius to execute it, you know?
Somebody texted me and said, yo, you know that whole shit when he went off stripping
was calling Jada a bitch and, you know, saying everybody called him a bitch, you know that
was, you know he winged that, right?
Everybody in the world calls him a bitch.
I tried to call him, motherfucker, and get him box and don't pick up for me.
Everybody called that man a bitch.
fucking Charlemagne called him a bitch
The breakfast club called him a bitch
And the dude and the talk
And every rapper
And the drink champs
Called him a fucking bitch
And I'm like
No
First of all I said who told you that
And he was like
Nah somebody that was dead told me backstage
I was like
I was in North Charleston last month
He did the same exact thing
Including the shout out
Yeah
Because I started to correct him and be like
I never called Will Smith a bitch
But I'm like
Wait a minute
I get to get my name in this show.
Like, wait a minute.
This might be for the specials.
I'm like, it's February.
Special comes out next month.
I know this ain't,
this ain't off the cuff.
Let me mind my goddamn business.
By the way, white people love Chris Rock.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
Man, I had some white people texting me.
I had one white person text me who is a very,
very, very powerful human.
And he was like, man, just heard Chris Rock shout you out.
And he put very, very, very, very impressed.
And I'm like, what is he impressed about?
The special?
Or it's him shouting me out.
I don't know what it was.
He's impressed.
You're influential enough that you're getting a shoutout.
I will say that's cool about Chris Rock is that getting a Chris Rock shout out
and a special feels like a rapper putting you in his bars.
You know, like...
Which rapper?
It doesn't mean like a fire rapper.
Depends which rapper.
I've been mentioned by a lot of rap.
I mean, Greg?
But you remember the first time
you were mentioned by someone you respect
and how you felt?
Somebody I respect.
Yeah, I do actually.
It was Tia.
And wasn't that cool?
Yeah, Tia said in the bar,
he said, I'm a guy like Charlamagne.
It was one of his mixtapes.
I forgot which one it was.
Absolutely.
But that's cool.
Like, he shot out Jason Mamoa.
It's different, though.
What do you mean?
It's different.
I'll give you an example.
Like, Chris Rock's special
is more like Drake dropping back to back.
It's an event.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody's tuned into this.
event.
Yeah.
It's one is that, you know, you get mentioned in a rap bar.
It's cool.
Oh, that was, though.
That's my man.
But when it's an event that everybody's paying attention to, it's a different ballgame.
Yeah.
It's like, it can immortalize you in a different way.
Yeah, for sure.
I guess what I'm saying?
That's awesome that, like, I'm just mad.
Like, Chris didn't give, give people to give me anything.
Like, I still get bottles now because it drink.
Oh, real?
Right.
Like, right, I could be in a random restaurant and somebody will send me a bottle.
And then they'll be like, oh, that's do over there.
You're like, bottles to show of me.
Especially Indians, for some reason.
I like that.
Classic, classy individual.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just thought that that was cool.
I thought creating the event was great.
Unbelbelieving the hype was great.
Executing the revenge is great.
And being at a stage where if you talk about somebody, if you say their fucking name, they're excited.
You know what I mean?
Like, it is cool to be mentioned by this guy.
Absolutely.
He didn't call and let you know he's going to do that.
You found out while watching.
Well, I saw it last month.
Yeah.
I saw it when he did it at the No Charlton College.
see him. I know. I'm asking about then.
Oh, no, no, no. He ain't say nothing.
I mean, I could I never call it Wolfsmith for a bitch?
Not that I remember. I don't think I did.
Don't ruin the joke, bro.
But I thought the point of it was that it was a joke.
Think about who he named. You think the Vue called Will Smith for bitch?
Like, come on.
Now, did I have my thoughts about the whole entanglement red table talk thing?
Yes, we talked about that, but I never called him a bitch.
But either way, I appreciate the shout-out. I thought it was fantastic.
I think it's great.
You know?
I think it's great.
And I just enjoyed the special overall.
And I'm looking forward to everybody else because, like I said, I saw Kevin's new material,
which will probably change because Chris's change.
Chris's royal family shit was funny.
But the shit he said last summer was even funny.
And I know he changed it because the queen died.
Oh.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, he had like three bars about the whole queen thing.
And it was what made it so dope as it was based off personal experience.
Yeah.
Because he's Chris Rock.
He's been famous for a long time.
not going to step on it because he didn't put it in the special, but, you know, like, he had a bit in there about the queen that made that whole shit even funny.
Yeah.
Couldn't you say it now, since what do you mean?
I mean, couldn't you say it now?
He's not going to use those bars.
Well, I mean, if he didn't use it, I don't want to say it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'll tell you all after the podcast, but it was funny.
It's just some funny shit.
But Kevin's new shit is funny, and to your point, it's super personal.
Yeah.
But that probably will change because his father passed away.
You know what I mean?
Dave's new shit is super personal.
Yeah.
Because, I mean, when you offend every other community, you have.
I haven't nothing else to talk about but yourself now at this point.
You know what I mean?
I'll be honest.
I think that's where,
I think that's where comedy goes.
Hasn't it always,
though?
I feel like,
not necessarily,
because if you look at guys like Chris Rock,
like cries like Chris Rock have,
you know,
exploded early on by having,
like,
great topical takes on the issues
that were like plaguing society,
right?
Issues on race and politics and,
you know,
gender dynamics.
George Carlin,
same thing,
politics, right?
Race.
And like,
you look at those people
and they were,
a voice at a time where many people were voiceless.
There wasn't Twitter.
There wasn't Instagram.
There wasn't YouTube videos.
Now we live in a time.
Antopics didn't feel so dated.
Exactly.
Now we live in a time where the topical joke, everybody's going to have a take.
You're competing with 100 million people on the internet.
Like people are going to have your same take about Chris Brown, the same take about
Beyonce, the same take about the Ohio disaster.
Like it's impossible to not share a take about something.
So how do you make yourself more?
unique, how do you separate yourself? And I think it's just what is happening to you personally.
Yeah. And I think that's just where at least comedy specifically is going to go.
Yeah, y'all still pissing me off with this Chris Rock is anti-black man. And this Chris,
bro, I saw a great tweet about that. How are you going to wear all white and this two black women?
There's so much we can say about that. But man, you're really going to be mad at Chris Rock for using the B-word. Do I think you should call women the B-word? No. But God,
Have you checked your favorite rapper lately?
You know what I mean?
And you're proving his point.
Selective outreach.
Exactly.
This is what I think people are really mad about the Chris Rock shit.
Because he's calling you on your shit.
We're all hypocrites.
We all use selective outrage.
We can look at one person doing one thing, the other person doing the other thing.
And if we like this person, we ignore that.
But if we don't like this person, we go at that.
All he did was hold a mirror up to us.
And now we're mad that he held the mirror up.
Yeah.
Because there's no way in hell you're going to sit here.
And now all of a sudden tell me, he shouldn't have called that woman to B word.
Really?
Yeah.
Really?
I mean, if that's your issue?
That's your issue?
After you've listened to all of these different guys called different women B words.
You know what I mean?
Prominent women, too.
Just say you like Will Smith, dude?
Just say you like Will Smith?
Just say you like Jada.
Like, you get it.
You're just trying to find a way to discredit this dude.
But nah, that's not it.
Even at the end when he said, and you don't, my mama told me you don't fight in front of white people.
Yeah.
And everybody was like, see, this proved that he cares with white people.
white people think all of y'all do.
No, I did not hear that.
I did not hear that. You didn't hear what?
That people were complaining about that. Oh, no, there was people complaining about that.
And I thought that was ridiculous because we stop each other from fighting in front of white people.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, how many times in front of people? You know, don't do that.
Don't do that in front of mixed company.
Why is that? Why don't you want to fight in front of white people?
Because for me, it's because white people already have a perception to you.
And by the way, if they have that perception to you, they're probably going to have that
perception regardless.
You know what I mean?
You don't want to feed into it.
I'm not going to feed into it.
Absolutely.
Interesting.
100%.
100%.
It's weird to me that I've seen people whether you've said that verbatim or whether
your actions show it.
You know what I mean?
Are you say it in other ways?
Get mad at him.
So white people think that you fight, that black people fight like, explain like family
fights?
What do you mean?
I don't know.
Like, I don't understand it.
I don't understand it.
I just think it's the stereo.
type of black people, especially
black men, being dangerous
and being violent. Okay. You know what I mean?
So let's not reinforce that
in front of anybody. You know what I mean?
Which is so strange to me as if white people
aren't violent as fuck.
You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's like a kid crying in the
store. Like, don't cry these people around. Like,
it's like... Really? Yeah. Don't show
off in front of these people. Yeah, you just got to...
You got to be your best self.
Who are these people? We know who's
these people are, okay?
But yes, go watch the special if you have it.
I don't want them to put out the live, though.
What would you like?
I want them to...
Well, they edited the audio already.
Oh, they did?
Yeah. So if you watched it live, the audio sent, like,
it was a little hollow in the room.
Now the audio that's out, like the room feels a bit more full.
Yeah, I don't want that.
I'd rather them take different times.
He's done that material to the best of his ability and put it together.
Yes.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I would want.
That's what the special is.
That's what the special is.
That's what the special is.
They say Will Smith been trying to reach out to Chris
and, you know, Chris has been ignoring him.
Chris said the opposite.
Chris said he called him, he didn't call him back.
In the special.
That's in the special.
You know what I'm saying?
Why not?
It's a special.
You tell the truth at every joke in your special?
Every single one.
But Chris might call him back now.
I'm not calling you back when I got this hot material.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You guys are going to stop this tree.
No, no, no, no.
We're not about to have no convoy and say, apologize, my bad.
And then you see me six months from now letting these bars go.
I get back to you after the special, bro.
Now we can apologize.
Now we can talk.
Now we can reconcile.
I slap back.
Creed 3 broke box office records.
The Alex's chagrin.
Yo.
Fear, fur, fur, fere, fern, fere.
Yo, we should do like a, that's, first of all amazing.
I think they did like a hundred million dollars.
Highest grossing sports movie of all time.
Of all time.
Absolutely incredible.
Which is crazy to call that a sports movie, though.
I mean, it's about a sport, Charlie, man.
It is, but, I mean, sports movie to me is the actual, like the last dance is a sports.
What genre you think it would be?
You, you're crazy.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't leave the man hanging out.
That was you crazy.
You see?
Last week it was a tag team back again.
That was you crazy.
Yo, Creed was phenomenal, bro.
That's a phenomenal movie.
Keep saying that so they serve you at last lap.
Chill out.
in last lap.
No, no, no.
What happened at Michael B. Jordan's establishment?
Yeah, what happened in Michael B. Jordan's
bar in New York?
Nothing.
What happened is?
Michael pressed you?
No.
He was in town last week.
He pressed you in last lap?
No.
We're not doing that.
Come on, bro.
Oh, stop it.
You ain't get no beef patty, bro?
What happened in last lap?
I went in there trying to put the beef and beef patty.
And Michael let him know what it was?
Michael didn't serve him no.
God damn.
That's what I'm talking about.
Newark New Jersey, baby.
So you're really banned from last lap?
Nope.
Nope.
I don't know.
Come on,
hold on.
He pressed you and kicked you out?
Nah.
Nothing.
Nothing happened at last lap.
Alex is not welcome to that last lap.
Wow.
He's not getting no services in last lap.
Michael last name is Alex because Michael banned Alex.
What?
What?
You know, Michael B.
Never mind.
You see.
Damn, Charlotte.
I was ready for you.
I know you made me out.
I was really trying.
I was ready to talk.
See?
Come on.
The B was for band.
I was shooting.
You were.
I don't even know what she was really
fucking dribbling drills or some shit
I don't even consider that
shot
I won't get a sports movie right there
So Alex is in this bar
First of all we've been to this establishment
Last lap, phenomenal establishment
Great place
Is it phenomenal?
I'm never going to tell you shit
Did Michael press him or no
No Michael wasn't there
But I just want to let you know
Now I don't feel safe in that establishment
I brought UFC champion
Israel at this sonia to that
We brought Izzy there for a lovely meal.
We've supported this establishment.
That was before you called that man gay
and said you could whip his ass.
We never called him.
First of all, I've never said he's gay.
You're a liar.
You're a liar.
You're a liar.
You said two on one.
No, I said two on one.
What is happening? Two on one, what?
Last week, Alex and Andrew said
Michael B. Jordan and Jonathan B.
Jonathan Mages was gay.
No, I said the pictures.
They said the pictures were gay.
They said their pictures were gay.
That's gay.
And then I told them that if y'all can't beat their ass,
shut up. And then Alex and Drew, Alex and Andrew, that's dope.
Alex and Andrew, or Alex and Andrew both said they can kick Michael B. Jordan ass.
Two on one.
Respectfully.
There ain't no, two on one.
No, no, boxing match.
Just straight up boxing.
Michael B. Jordan laying you out.
Now, now I know when the whole last lap thing happened.
Because there was a random tweet that came through the group chat this week.
Ooh.
And it was Alex saying, yo, nah, y'all don't want no problems with Michael B. Jordan.
He got hands.
I'll read this
Don't fucking backtrack now
That is true
That is true
Oh Lord man
Oh on
God damn
I'm just not
texting nutty-out licking
I like the photos
You like what
The photos
You said the photos
Look at
Oh the photos
I'll talk to you
What's there's nothing wrong with it
Talk to me
What
What is wrong with the photos
I thought you said that
Last week y'all said the photos
Look gay
But there's anything wrong with being gay
There's nothing wrong with being gay
I'm not saying that
I'm just saying I like the photos.
You can like gay things.
But think about that.
No, this is a good point.
Time about, time, time, time, time, time, time, this is a good point.
Brokeback Mountain.
Great movie.
This is a good point.
Nile was a woman.
And I saw mad women reposting them picks.
So who cares what y'all think?
If all the ladies like it.
Hey, 100 million people went or whatever.
The movie made $100 million.
It doesn't, like, hello.
That's right.
Like, Friday 9.
9.19 p.m.
Okay, Michael B. got hands.
Give me like six months with a dedicated boxing coach and I got him.
Jonathan, I want, I want,
no parts of.
And I said, no, no, no, you're going to meet Kilmongen, gang, God damn.
No, no, we never said Jonathan B. Major's.
Not Jonathan B majors.
Is it Jonathan Majors?
Jonathan B. ass kicking.
That's what it's going to be.
I believe it.
I didn't say I could beat up Jonathan Majors.
We never said that.
And then Schultz, you know, Schultz forever to I can do heart surgery.
Andrew, I can do heart surgery.
Shultz says, if I'm honest, I'm fucking them both up.
See?
And then you, he ain't even
saying them. He didn't even say them. He said,
I'm fucking they both up.
I don't know if that was a joke.
I don't know if he was calling them date.
I don't know if they days, bro.
After that picture.
Oh, my God.
You know what I mean?
We don't know how they identify.
We don't know how to identify.
Come on, man.
That's beautiful.
That's all shokes, though.
Let's pay some bills, guys.
Why y'all act like I can't box?
That's what I'm trying to understand.
You can box?
Say, yeah?
Listen, plenty of boxes get knocked out.
That's the whole point of boxing.
Two people can box.
One just boxed his brother.
You're right.
That's the whole point of boxing.
You're right.
Now you got hits.
Can he beat Michael B. Jordan?
I think he could.
Have you seen their shape?
I think he could.
Have you seen their shape?
And even in the magazine code, they talk about...
It's not about how you built.
They talked about how they trained.
No, Tyson Fury got you gas, bro.
They worked out three times a day.
Okay.
Andrew Ruiz beating Anthony Joshua got you gas, bro.
It is about how you built.
It ain't how they built.
Drew be in the gym, bro.
When I put these paws on them,
Drewby and a gym, son.
You're going to get your opportunity.
You're doing Pilates, yoga.
In all seriousness, in all seriousness, it's not.
Let's do it for charity.
Maybe Michael B. Jordan and do it for charity.
100%. I'm doubt that.
But in all seriousness, it's not about, it's not about, it's not about how you build.
It's really, if you honestly want to know it's boxing.
Conditioning is massive, but it's really about how you handle punches, how comfortable you are by being attacked.
Because most people gas out not only from throwing the punches, but from holding their breath when they're getting punched.
That's the other thing.
I just don't know how much fighting they've both actually done.
We're not talking about hitting the myths.
Everybody looks great on the mitts.
Like, how long have you been in there?
How comfortable are you getting hit in the fucking face?
Your guy, what's your guy named the boxer that trained, Michael?
Tom, you said his name on the podcast last week.
Ooh.
And when that accidentally knocked him out.
Oh, Tony Balloo.
Tony Balloo said Michael B. Jordan is so good.
It's scary.
And he said that if he trained Michael for six months, Michael could go in there.
It compete.
Hmm.
I mean, I'd say that, too, if someone's paying me, man.
You know what I mean?
I want to still be in the movies
I want to still be in the movies
They're trying to sell some 20s guys
Yeah I sell him
What is he's supposed to be like
Oh no he's dead
He can't box
Funny his guy of America
Without even trying
Who
You
Who
Shalame
Yo your name is great to say
When you're exasperating
Right
Oh man
You have a perfect name
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because people love calling me when they
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Charlemagne!
What's something going to go,
Charlemagne!
Why are you calling me for?
What the fuck?
What the fuck am I supposed to do?
People are calling on me when they're in trouble
and calling me to blame their trouble on.
Oh, really?
Oh, my God.
Why, who's blaming their trouble?
It was Charlamagne.
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Job and rant, man.
What do you think, Shultz?
Um, it's pretty awesome.
Why, that he's a point guard, wanting to be a shooting guard?
Hey!
What?
I like that.
No, I just think it's awesome, to be honest.
The tricky thing is, like, they have to make sure that the brands are willing to stay with him.
Uh-huh.
But his superstardom that he's ascending to right now is just limitless.
I mean, the guy, the way the guy plays the game is so exciting.
and then who he is off the court is more exciting.
So you have one of those situations that you had.
It's different, but the closest thing I can relate it to is in Iverson
where you got this guy who's like,
yo, I'm out here, I'm going to live my life however the fuck I want to live my life,
and I'm going to play the game, however the fuck I want to play the game.
And we all want to play the game like him.
And then some people want to live the life like him.
And it's just magical.
So many eyeballs.
I mean, the kids are just going to be like, oh, my God.
this is my hero. Now, I understand why the companies are going to be like, nah, fuck this.
Why are you making it, why are you living this life that you don't necessarily live?
I guess that was the criticism. Like, is he really in these streets or is he adopted this street stuff
once he became rich and successful? Both were stupid. Yeah.
Whether he's really in the streets or adopted the streets after he's super successful,
both were dumb. Yeah. I don't know if kids like this. You know what I'm saying? Because
kids recognize stupidity too. No, there's a lot of kids.
No, they don't.
Kids like this.
They recognize it and they go, that's awesome.
No, when it comes from rappers,
not when it comes from somebody
who's on a basketball club
making hundreds of millions of dollars.
They don't.
They just like wild boys, man.
Where do y'all get this from?
AI.
Yeah, we loved AI.
You didn't see AI doing stuff like this, Alex.
He didn't see AI.
He literally got a gun charge.
When did Allen, I was going to get a gun charge?
When he was in Virginia?
No, he didn't.
He got into a fight.
What are you talking about?
He got into a fifth.
And it was actually, I think they give him a lynching charge.
In South Carolina, if you get into a fight with more with a bunch of people,
and you end up jumping somebody.
Gotcha, got you.
Okay, that's still being stupid.
Yeah.
You got all this money.
He was 17 years old.
He wasn't even in the NBA yet.
What are y'all talking about?
Okay, whatever.
He wasn't a multimillionaire with a hundred million dollar sneaker deal, a hundred million
dollar contract.
Why do you think he's getting flamed on social media?
They're calling them,
I saw somebody calling them a, what they call it, NBA, NBA,
NBA, dumb boy, jaw warrant, you know, as in warrant.
The kids don't look up to this because they can look at this behavior
and tell it's silly and stupid.
Charlie, you don't know kids, bro.
You don't know kids, stop dressing like one.
You think because you dress like one, you know them.
I want to do hood rat.
You don't get out of here.
Nobody like this.
Hood rat shit with my friends.
No.
And he's doing hood rat shit with his friends.
They like hood rat shit with your friends.
friends when all your friends are hood rats. When you're a hundred million dollar NBA player
and could lose everything because of this, no, they don't respect that. And by the way,
they'll be the first to clown you because the truth to the matter is misery loves company.
They're really jealous of you. They don't want to see you succeed. So they will cheer you on
when it comes to fucking throwing your life away. And now that he's in trouble and he's been
suspended indefinitely, what's happening? Trending topic online. Look at that. Meem. Are you just a
fucking meme now? People meme everything. They got to be suspended. They got.
They got nicknamed for you, but that's what they do to you.
They don't really want to see them in these streets.
They'll cheer you on until you jump off a bridge,
and then they're like, you stupid motherfucker.
Now you NBA dumb boy.
I think that you're speaking on this as an adult.
And I think that these kids making the memes are just having a lot of fun,
and it's more fun to show how into guns and into the street life he is
than it is to be like nuts make memes about how bad it is to be street.
They're calling him NBA dumb boy.
Yeah, it's a pun.
It's funny.
And it's a reflection of how they feel about him.
NBA dumb boys.
Derek Rose watching John Morant waste away a good pair of knees trying to do that.
Trying to be hood.
Once again, once again, Derek Rose watching John Morant waste away a good pair of knees trying to be hood.
Nobody respects that hood shit, bro.
They really don't.
The kids are relating to him because he likes all the same music that they like.
They do the same shit in the video.
with their guns and all of shit.
I'm talking about just the kids.
The young kids that like the same shit.
I'm telling you.
Okay, because I know you worship academics.
The kids, go to academic page and see the kids.
No, get the fuck out of you.
Go to academics page and see what the kids are saying about him.
By the way,
why did you throw academic?
That's great.
That's crazy.
You never heard his feelings.
He's talking about his outfits, talking about his nails.
That shit rub right off.
That said, worship academics.
Damn, bro.
Why did you put that on him?
You aren't dressed as one academic sneakers.
He got on Slater.
You look like Grand Wizard chat nigger, bro.
I've never even seen him, but I think that's how you look.
The goat!
Shout out Grand Wizard!
The goat!
All I'm saying is, go to Act page and see what they're saying about him.
Act had the funny joke.
Act was like,
Jai was going to be the first person,
Jai, the first person to ever try to get out the NBA to make it to the hood.
Like, nobody would common sense respects this.
And I don't see kids respecting this.
But kids don't have common sense.
That's the thing.
And Alex said that the kids respect the mute.
Yes, they like Jock because he listened to the same music.
But Jaws their age.
Jaws 24 years old.
Why do they respect?
Of course, he's going to be into music.
Why do they respect the rappers that do it?
And especially the rappers that fake like they live the hood life.
Because we know a lot of rappers that don't do that hood shit.
And they still rap about it.
Why do they respect that?
I don't know what y'all call respect because the reality is.
Admire.
to. I think they like their music. I don't think that they're liking. I don't think nobody has a
favorite. Oh, man, did you see him with the guns in that video? Like, it's the music attached to it.
Who said something about there earlier to Michael, the story? What was the shit? You said something about
the story. What's the guy saying to Michael Jackson? Michael Jackson musical. Oh, the song.
Do you remember? The song. The song tells the story, not the artist. Exactly. So people like
artists that tell stories through their music. And if you're watching, like, let's say,
a documentary about them
and this dude's telling you all this gangster street shit
he did. And he's in the streets with a bunch
of dudes with guns, you'll be like, damn,
he's really from where he's from. But once that
person makes millions of dollars, because you see it
all the time, whether it's YSL,
John Morant, as soon as they
get in trouble for being hood,
everybody calling him stupid. Well, here's
a thing. Everybody. There's a thing. Nobody
that's in the NBA that's actually
hood acts
hood. Because they happen to be out.
No. If they're still
active and there have been people in the NBA
that have been active.
I don't mean active like they're going, run around
a block shooting people, but they're active
like with the gangs that they grew up in and they're
still maybe supporting some of those things.
I don't want to speak too much of people's business, but
you... Some of it's documented, though. Like,
Jalen Rose has put it out there.
All right, fair enough. There are other people to.
There are other people. Those people
had this crystal clear image
because they knew they were on
some dirt and they couldn't
bring any attention to the dirt so they had to be
good figures in the community,
etc.
I know what you talk about.
Yeah, you do.
I know exactly you talk.
So,
so there's a few,
but yeah.
I know exactly.
So,
talking about the big one.
Come on,
bro.
Yo,
you,
what is this,
they're all like,
they're all right here,
right here.
This guy right here.
My point is
his gunnamee
over here.
My point is,
yeah,
God,
Gatame.
Gunname.
Funny and say.
Gunna may.
Okay.
So,
so,
so.
I think the fact that he is out here living this wildlife, got the gun, et cetera,
shows me he's not really about the street life because if you were about the street life,
you wouldn't share that shit.
You'd be trying to be like the perfect little NBA player who's media trained and all
its other stuff so they don't know about the wild stuff you're actually associated with.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I don't even think Jai was trying to act thug.
What I think Jai was doing was being a rebel without a cause because he's already under investigation.
for other incidents
rather than this.
Yeah, that's why he did it like this.
He didn't point it at the camera like tough guys.
He's like, man, he ain't a boo-boo.
That shit is funny, bro.
It's almost like he's listening to people
who's like, you know, you're into investigation
for fighting a little kid or whatever.
You're under investigation for allegedly pointing a gun at a person.
I think he was mocking the system that's coming after him.
He's mocking all of the, you know, the analyst,
like Shannon Sharp and everybody else.
To his detriment, of course.
Yeah.
But I don't think he was, I don't think.
I think he was trying to be gangster in that moment.
I think he was on the...
Let me see it.
Very stupid decisions.
Why do gangsters always want to be naked?
What's gangster about that?
Why gangsters always got their shirts off, just draped over dudes?
I know one thing, man.
You know, all I know is, man, when you come from the extremes
that somebody like Job Marant comes from,
John Moran comes from Dalzell South Carolina.
The population in Dalzell is like 3,500.
people. I'm from
Bomskot. When I grew up, it was 7,000
plus people. Now it's like 10,000.
The population of where he's from right now
was like 3,500 people. Like,
Jod's from the sticks for real.
Like, probably didn't even have a real
basketball goal. Probably he had to
the crate with the
the plywood behind it type shit.
Right? I know he probably
grew up on dirt roads. You know what I mean?
So to see somebody come
from those extremes,
do things like this. It's like, man,
please pull the young boy to the side before he blow it all.
Because he got the opportunity to change so many people lives.
Like, yo, Jodd's only in his, what, fourth year in the league?
So he ain't even got the big, big, big deal yet.
I thought a lot of the means were saying, like, he came, like, had both his parents.
Yeah, he went to drive to school and all that kind of stuff.
Sure, but that doesn't mean, you know, you still don't come from the dirt.
Well, all of that probably happened to him because of basketball later on once he became, got in high school.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah.
The way that it was being positioned, maybe it was Skip Bayless said, no, no, Shana,
Sharp said it. It's like they were trying to do
the M&M thing to him. Like you went to Pembroke.
That's a private school. Yeah, but I promise you
probably went to Pembroke because of basketball.
Well, no, no. Penbrook is a fake school
in a movie called 8 Mile
about a battle rapper. You said it
like Shabr. That's the bar
that he says, Clarence says
some really nice parents.
Well, I'm saying,
you probably went to a good... What's going on with you?
You want to talk about something? What's happening
right now? You probably still went to a good private
school because of basketball.
Uh-huh. I'm sure.
That's why he ended up there.
If I find out that you believe everything that happened in movies is real,
it's going to explain a lot about our friendship.
But he went to a private school.
It's going to a lot about our friendship.
I didn't know.
I didn't know he went to a private school.
That was the memes online.
They made it seem like he comes from a good school.
You're the funniest guy.
He just looked at me.
He goes, he went to a private school.
Listen, I didn't get with, no, no, you literally said this,
and this needs to be focused on.
I said that you went to me.
He went to a private school.
Did y'all say he went to a private school?
I don't know if he went to a private school.
I don't remember. Somebody rewind the tape. I don't remember saying that. I really don't remember seeing that. Right after.
No, I thought I was replying to y'all saying that Shannon Sharp said he went to a private school.
And I said if he did go to a private school, it's probably because of basketball.
Yeah, that probably, I would think it's probably because of basketball, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but he's still from the sticks.
Okay, so he's from, and the sticks, just to clarify. And the stick don't mean you from the hood either.
Yeah, could he be from the country. That's all I'm saying. And have land.
That's right. You could just be from the country.
So maybe his parents are rich?
Nah, they definitely weren't rich.
How do you know that?
No, they weren't rich.
They weren't rich growing up.
How do you know that?
I saw his documentary back in the day.
He had a documentary, there was a documentary on YouTube about Jai, like maybe three years ago.
Three years ago.
Yeah, they weren't rich.
What's his pop name is T.
T. Morant?
Yeah, T. Morant.
So, yeah, but I just don't want to see this brother blow his shit like this, man.
What does that have to do with that?
When I was going to salute Tia, I was going to salute T.
like, yo, T, you know, pull you, I'm going to the side.
And I wonder about that, too.
I wonder about the dynamics, right?
Like, when you come from that and now you worth hundreds of millions of dollars,
you might be the big homie.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, there might not be anybody to pull you to the side and tell you, like,
yo, bro, you shouldn't be doing that, including your pops.
Yeah.
You know?
His pops looks incredibly dedicated, though.
I mean, like, he's at every single game.
Absolutely.
He's clearly dedicated to his son's success.
His dad used to play ball if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah.
Yeah, teams play ball.
Yeah.
Semi-professally played basketball and gave up, gave it up when his wife got pregnant to become a barber.
But still, usually parents that are that dedicated and influential in their kids' lives are going to have influence.
I would think so.
Over the decision of their kids made.
Just out of basic respect.
I mean.
And that's the other thing, too.
I do see people saying that like, yo, his dad don't have no control of him.
And that's not true.
You know what I'm saying?
Because sometimes you just get to a certain age and you're just not listening to your parents.
You know what I'm saying?
The kid is 20.
He's 23 years old.
Also, you might be a parent.
You might go,
nah, this kid needs a tough love.
And he needs to,
you know,
know his limits and he's going to have
to learn it the hard way.
And like,
you get to be there.
You don't want that to happen
in this situation,
though.
I mean,
we just saw the Chris Rock special.
Yeah,
but God damn.
Chris Rock,
daughter ain't made
hundreds of millions of dollars yet.
And the things
Jai is playing with.
It's one thing just to have,
you know,
you might be drinking or something,
but you're playing with guns.
Like,
somebody's going to try you,
like,
you ain't going to just be flashing guns at people.
You know what I mean?
And you play ball in Memphis.
Like, you ain't about to out thug nobody in Memphis.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
That's not about to happen.
So it's just like the things he's playing with.
Like, if you are indeed putting hands on people,
if you are indeed pointing guns at people,
somebody might feel away one day and feel scared and threatened and retaliate.
You know what I mean?
So it's just like, bro, don't stop playing with your life, man.
It's a lot more at stake for job and rank.
Like, stop playing with your life.
And I know everybody keeps comparing this stuff to, like, AI and everything.
I don't know what AI was into.
I know AI was a wild boy, but I also know that the Internet wasn't around back then.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And I wonder how they would have reacted.
But AI was just an absolute darling of the people.
Like, we loved him.
People said.
I remember being obsessed with him.
I thought that he was just the greatest, just sports figure that I'd ever seen.
I don't want to play the game like him.
I wanted to be like him.
Yeah, there was just like a liberation.
They were mad at AI for who he was,
which made hip hop get behind AI
because they're like,
yo, we ain't bothering nobody.
Right.
This is what y'all should be mad about.
Jesus Christ.
What the fuck?
I mean, no, that's intimidating,
you don't want that guy, D&A.
This is a funny thing.
This is a funny thing.
This is exactly why NBA has a dress code.
Alan obviously didn't pay all those fines for this shit.
Dylan Brooks channels his inner stone cold, Steve Boston,
ahead of the matchup versus the Lakers.
That is wild.
Oh, man.
see Stone Cold at all. I don't see Stone Cold at all. Don't call one of those motherfuckers. You got
do whiteface for it. You got to go full white face for it. Now, you can do Stone Cold. If you're not
bald, you're not Stone Cold. You're not Stone Cold. And you got to wear the boots. You got to have the boots.
What did he wear? Yeah, I don't see. Some Jays or something or some Air Force One. Yeah, I don't see.
What else we got? Taylor says so much more stuff. Let's see. Scroll down. What else we got?
What the City Girls do? Oh, Young Miami says she's not going to get married. We knew. We
that already, though, Young Miami?
I mean...
What?
Why you say that like that?
Young Miami.
What do you mean? She didn't say she wasn't going to get married.
That's not what I saw.
I mean, to be honest with you, I never...
Young Miami announced you, let me see.
It's been a long week. I just want my man.
I'm not sharing my next N-word.
Young Miami explains not wanting marriage.
No, I don't want to get married.
I don't want to get married because I feel like men are not faithful.
And if I get married, I mean I'm giving my life a way to you.
That means, like, I want to be with you for the rest of my life.
All right, so let's clarify here.
You do want to get married.
You just don't think that there's a man out there that's willing to uphold the values of marriage.
I wonder about people, like, I love young Miami, but I wonder if people are intimidated by
Young Miami's music.
You know what I'm saying?
Are they intimidated by her music?
Are they intimidated by things they hear her saying interviews, meaning she's a city girl.
City girls are outside.
What do they say?
City girls are, are, don't seem like they don't want to be tamed.
You know what I mean?
Like, city girls seem like they don't want to be tamed.
want to be in relationship.
City girls want to, you know, pop that pussy for a goon as long as they can.
So if you're a guy, don't be upset.
Do you want a city girl?
Hell no.
What guy wants a city girl?
What guy wants a girl is like, I want to pop my pussy for a goon?
She's never said that.
That's the whitest shit I ever heard of me in my motherfucking life.
You've never sounded that white ever in life.
I'm white.
You sounded this type of white.
Like he's right here.
You rubbing off him.
No, like we don't want it.
We don't want a city girl, man.
No.
We don't want that.
Damn.
So, yeah, that's, and also, if you're a city girl, you're going to attract city dudes.
Yeah, even that tweet, I'm not sharing my next N-word.
I thought that was the whole point of date in the city girl.
She's probably over it.
Did he got new babies and all that stuff?
She was like, it was cool.
It was probably cool at first.
Man, they get over that shit real quick.
But it's only been a few months.
She just was saying how she cool with it.
Like, he can do him.
I don't know how much dirt she did in the months?
she might have just went through it
but isn't that the same way
Diddy goes about his shit
like he doesn't want to get married anymore
he just wants to have you know
situation so she's just doing the same as him
yeah but that's a function of money
yeah you don't want to go through that whole shit
I think they all just jade it
it yeah and by the way I just
I wonder man like is it too much for people
like I'm telling you even when you know people
when women talk about their sexual exploits a lot
or things that they've done
I don't want nothing to do with that
like yo I'm sorry I don't want
and no guy does
I love my young Miami.
Young Miami says she got pied on.
No guy wants to do that.
Who wants to be with the girl that got pissed on you?
Who wants to do you?
All your boys watching them.
Y'all start listening to your girls' podcasts.
Oh, word, what episode?
Oh, the one when she got pissed dumped on her fucking head.
It's only because she talked about it.
Say again?
I said it's only because she talked about it.
You don't know that.
Nobody wants to know it.
No one wants to know it.
Mad girls have probably done it and just haven't talked about it.
Yeah, don't talk about it.
Do all the craziest freak shit?
Just don't talk about it.
Through all of that?
It's people that were still.
Be with a million guys.
Don't talk about it.
Through all of that,
it's still people
that would marry
young Miami though.
Because she's fun.
You know what I'm saying?
And she's a fun girl
from Florida,
man.
First of all,
Florida girls are
absolutely a good time.
Yeah,
there's no question.
Listen.
And there's guys out there
that will be so enthralled
with who she is.
They want to wipe her up.
Look.
Yeah,
just if I'm,
if there are women listening
right now,
do not talk about all the guys
who fuck and a dix
you suck
and a cum and a piss and don't do it.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
I'm just saying,
just don't do it.
If you want to have like a lasting relationship, don't do it.
Because it's going to be very difficult for a lot.
Guys are very sensitive.
Our egos are incredibly sensitive.
He's not lying.
We're emotionally fragile people.
He's not lying.
I wish that we were more confident and that more of us could handle you talking about that.
But the reality is that most of us can't.
And probably the ones that you want to be with definitely can't.
I think sexual exploits are probably fine, but it's like those details.
Like if you say, if you tell me you got a train ran on you, if you tell me you got peed on.
Holy moly.
Holy moly
You got a train on while getting a train
Raulamee
Charlemagne!
Charlemagne!
Stop that!
No! That is no, no, no.
Come on, bro.
No!
I'm learning that a lot after the
Britney Renner interview that I did.
Oh yeah, she probably regrets all that shit, right?
All the guys are mad.
But all the women are in the comments
It's like, I feel her.
I'm proud of her.
Like, this is dope to see the turnaround.
I'm glad that she's going through this stage of life.
But there has been a turnaround.
Yeah.
She don't like that life she was living?
No, she regrets having that intention.
She wants love and.
Of course she does.
She probably regrets putting all that out there because she realizes how hard it is now to actually.
Who's going to marry her?
And then she also said that, you know, a lot of it wasn't true.
She just leaned into it for social media because social media was paying that picture.
See what I'm saying?
She needs, she needs God.
She need to become a Christian.
God, damn. Christian.
No, I'm being honest with you.
But you guys are allowed to be hoes and talk about it.
No, we're not.
Now, we are.
Yes, you are.
No, we're not.
But, but, but, but, but, but that's your fault.
But we're not allowed to be old.
By the way, shows, we're not allowed to be hoold.
We are.
No, you're not.
If they're actually encouraged, like you said earlier,
literally like you said earlier, if you don't do this, you're considered gay.
No, it's not.
I'm going to say this between guys and women.
When guys talk about our sexual.
exploits. We talk about them like in general. Like, yeah, I did this, I did that. You ain't
on here talking about, I got a hundred bodies. I slept with a hundred women. Have you ever done that?
I know some guys. I know some guys. Who? Swept with more than a hundred women. I'm not a gay guy.
What you mean? Slept with more than a hundred girls, Charlotte. Oh, see, you just ruined my point. I never
heard you said. Yeah. You were trying to put, you're trying to say I'm gay, bro. You're disgusted.
You can't sleep with less than 100 girls. You might as well suck by your teeth.
You know how much 100 people is?
I've never, I have not slept with 100 women.
Really?
Hell no.
Well, you've been with the same because that's cheating.
A hundred women is crazy.
I haven't been with the same girl since I'm 18.
That's disgusting.
What do you mean to say?
I've settled more than 500 women.
There's no way.
It's just 100.
It's impossible.
What do you mean?
It's only 365 days in a year, bro.
Charlotte.
You know, you have a lot.
You slept with 500 women?
Yeah.
No, but Charlotte, no,
maybe not 500, but you can never,
I've not,
I have not slept with close to 100 women.
Yes, you know.
I have not.
All right.
Y'all don't realize how much 100 is, bro.
I slept with over 500.
100 is a crazy number.
I slept with over 500 four years ago before I met my wife.
I don't think about that.
I don't believe that.
500 women shows.
Do I look like a gay guy to you, bro?
Yeah.
Come on.
Come on.
Doesn't gay or straight ain't nobody.
It's sooty.
Gay is straight.
Ain't nobody getting that kind of action, bro.
500.
That!
I'm not even joking when I say this.
I don't think, I don't think.
I don't think.
What girl wouldn't want that?
Why?
Stop!
Stop!
I don't think Drake or Trace songs have slept with 500 wins.
No, I think Trace's songs.
Come on, yo.
I think Tray Song absolutely good.
Y'all know how much 500 is?
You're going to stop calling these.
do is gay?
Trace so has to do
500 in a month if you could.
It's impossible.
Are you crazy?
The fuck, 500 women in the most?
I don't care.
I don't care.
Why you said a month?
Why you said month?
You can't do it in a year.
We said life.
We said life.
We said life.
No, I said a month.
Okay.
Hold on.
Let's do 16.
Right?
You start having sex?
Yes.
Let's just not even, let's do 20.
20 to 30.
That's 10 years.
Okay.
500.
divided by 10 is what?
50.
That's 50 girls a year.
Do you know how much that is?
Nothing, bro.
That's four a month.
If you're a rapper.
Four a month, you can't have sex with four girls a month?
Will Chamberlain.
Your guys holding up a sign saying Will Chamberlain and fuck $20 million.
Yeah, but that's cap, bro.
That's all fucking cap.
That's cap, but that's not 500.
20.
I don't see it.
Charlotte.
I don't see it.
Especially trace songs.
You can't have sex with four girls a month?
No.
Every single show, every single show, he can bring at least to home.
You're assuming, this is what y'all are factoring in.
Y'all are factoring and he's fucking a different woman.
That's my different.
Every night and every show.
There's different people there.
Y'all believe that.
For a month.
You're a child, it's crazy to you're a child, bro.
It's crazy that.
It's crazy that you're a child.
It's crazy that these men don't have more discipline and that their teams aren't pushing that away.
Like, yo, these guys got a lot more discipline.
And you think, if they was out here fucking different women every night,
they'd be a lot more bullshit they would be into.
Preston's going to be a bullshit.
Yes, he is.
Exactly.
What you're talking about?
He is.
He is.
I still, no,
I don't think y'all realize how much 500 is.
Charlotte.
All right, I haven't slept with 500 women.
I know you have it.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
But 500 really isn't that crazy.
Crazy.
It's really not that crazy.
A hundred is.
I'm 40.
I'm 40.
I'm going to, I'll tell you that right now.
You've been with the same girl since you're 17.
That is.
So you're supposed to be with one.
So anything after that is bad.
That is true.
No, you're right.
Right?
So you shouldn't be with 100.
A hundred is insane.
Yeah, because that's 100 cheats.
That's bad.
So we don't want to know your number.
Okay?
No, you can have 100 cheats with a different girl, with one girl.
No.
No, we count that as one cheat.
It don't go by times.
Yeah.
It goes by person.
I guarantee you there's a big, if you and your wife are having a conversation and you cheat
and you be like, only we have sex one time.
Yeah, that's bad.
Better. Way better. A hundred is a full-blown relationship.
I'll be honest. Having sex multiple times with the same girl is probably worse than having sex one time with a bunch of different.
I hate when y'all tell me the same thing. I just said.
You missed the second sentence though.
I did not miss the second sentence. I said that I exactly said the same thing.
What did you say? What did you say?
You said that the number.
What did you say?
I don't even fucking remember now, but I know it was the same shit that you all just fucking said.
I just said the same goddamn shit.
All I know is 100 is a lot.
You said the number of times.
You said the number of times versus the body.
Yes.
Wouldn't that upset you more?
A hundred.
If you're not as a guy, you cheated with fucking girl.
In 10 girls a year.
It's two different things.
That's less than one a month.
What do you mean?
10 girls a year, that's less than one a month.
If you go to Diminu groomed public for one week and that's 17.
10 girls a year take you 10 years.
You fuck her twice.
That's your girlfriend.
Now, you just get a multiple bodies.
If you just got a bunch of multiple bodies,
you just have a compulsive body.
Y'all got to go back to old Charlotte.
That was my rule.
What?
Have sex with a girl more than three times.
That's a relationship.
It is.
I always said that.
Now you hear it from a woman.
I was saying it's 15 years ago.
But that's not true.
It is absolutely true.
What?
You even did your finger like it.
You might not think it in your head, but in her head is.
Just thinking about it.
If you have sex with a girl multiple times, that's not your girlfriend.
Yes.
Why?
It's a situation.
But it's not your girl.
Multiple times means.
You're really
genius.
We was waiting on the genius commentary.
Taylor, get out the bike, please.
Taylor, can you get on the mic?
Hold on.
Did somebody run through it multiple times,
but they didn't wipe you up?
Holy shit.
I'm going to talk about myself.
I'm just saying, is that what happened?
I'm saying three times you're in a relationship, right?
So.
Not true.
No, no, no.
I'm saying, is this within a month?
That's what I'm saying, because you can have sex over time.
No, no, no.
Time living don't have sex.
I should do with it.
Exactly.
If you're my man and you're having sex with somebody else,
yes.
Multiple times,
yes.
You're wrong.
It don't matter what the time frame.
Oh, wait a minute.
That's crazy.
Some of these girls need dick.
Some of these girls need dick.
Some of girls need dick, too.
There are girls that just need dick.
They just need it.
That's facts.
And those girls are willing to settle for great dick,
but nothing else.
Because they have stressful lives, Charlemagne.
Okay, but they can.
go find a single man to give
him that.
Wait, what?
But you said once you have sex with those girls,
more than one time, you're in a relationship.
Yeah.
He was talking about, but you said...
You're letting him confuse you.
No, I'm not.
I'm not trying to confuse him. I'm asking
questions. You were saying that him
cheating is bad because he's been with somebody
for a long time. So I'm talking about people
who are with somebody that have
sex outside of their relationship.
That's fucked up. I'm not talking about just single people
dating. Cheating is wrong. But even with
single people dating, you start fucking somebody
more than once, it becomes a thing.
Yes.
It becomes a situation.
Yo, you can't, if you explain to your girl, I slept with her one time,
that was it, I apologize, whatever, whatever.
She's going to still be pissed off.
She might forgive you, she may not.
But if you tell her, you slept with this one girl a hundred times?
You had an affair.
Boy?
You had a full-blown affair.
You've had to stay over there.
Yeah, nobody's discussing that.
Why are you getting out of nowhere?
Because one of y'all said that.
You said it.
I never said that.
You definitely said that.
I didn't say it.
All right, all right.
Michael B. Jordan heard you.
Let's pay some bills.
Shout out to the goat.
No, I ain't no goat now.
God damn it.
The goat.
I ain't no goat.
Michael B. Jordan, the goat.
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Salute to Marlon Williams too, man
Marlon Williams, he mentioned me in his new stand-up special as well
On HBO Macs. God loves me
I look over and who is it? Chris Rock
And he was like three different color black
I don't know what this.
And it wasn't an even black.
It was different.
It was iridescent.
It looked like eggplant, black, you know, dough black.
He looked like Shalameen the God three years ago.
It was entertaining because he bought, he called back to some tweets.
He leveled at me back in 2009.
I forgot who he was talking about, but he was described.
Oh, he's talking about Chris Rock.
And he was saying how when he first knew Chris Rock, you know,
he was saying like Chris Rock was a bunch of different shades of black.
He was like, he was like, he was like, he was like, he's three different.
colors black and, you know, he looked like a bruised egg plant. And then he was like, he looked like
Charlemagne de God three years ago. So it's actually about eight, nine years ago. But,
uh, when me and Marlon got into a Twitter beef back in 2009, he, he threw all those at me.
He said, I looked like a bruised egg plant. He said, I was three different colors black. I need to
choose one. And Marlon said the one tweet that has ever hurt me in my life. Whoa.
And the one tweet that ever hurt me in my life was when he told me that I had piqued at life.
Because at the time, it's context, right?
I'm back at home living with my mom.
And I'm fired from radio for the fourth time.
My now wife is back living at home with her parents.
We got a two-year-old daughter.
And when you see that, because he was clowning me about being fired.
That was part of the ammo.
And then he goes, you piqued that life, nigger.
I looked around like, have I?
No.
No.
Have I really peaked at life?
But unlike a lot of people, I use that as motivation.
That shit don't bother me at all.
It's like, oh, I'm going to show him what peeking at life looks like.
You know what I mean?
And so, you know, I just got on my shit.
It's not like I wasn't going to be on my shit anyway.
But it's nice to have a little fuel for the fire.
You got to have a little fuel for the fire, man.
So he came on Breakfast Club and then did you guys suss it out?
You talk about it?
Marlon always comes on breakfast.
We've actually had that conversation before,
but it's just the stand-up gave it new context.
You know what I'm saying?
Because he mentioned all of those old.
And I like that, the fact that, damn,
09, he said these things,
and now they're back in the stand-up special,
you know, all of these years later.
So salute them all.
And I heard God loves me.
It's really, really good.
I saw some of it.
I didn't get to finish the whole thing.
Ballsie moved to drop it right before Chris, too.
Yeah.
Because a lot of it is about the slap.
Oh, yeah.
I saw a lot of that.
I saw, like, a lot of the stuff he was saying about Chris Rocking with.
Jada and everything else.
A lot of it is about the actual slap.
What about the rumors that Tyler Perry is going to buy?
BET.
BET. I think that would be fantastic.
Is that true?
Yeah, it's true. It's a rumor, but it's true.
I heard Byron Island today.
I don't know how true the Byron Island part of it is,
but the Tyler Perry aspect of it is definitely true.
And it would make sense.
I mean, Tala already owns, I think, 25,
percent of BET Plus, their screaming service.
He's got a lot of content on BETT and BETT Plus, and I just think it would be dope.
It would be dope for BETT to be in black hands.
And why not, why not Tyler Perry?
Love it.
You know what I mean?
Tyler is that guy, man.
Love it.
You know?
I don't know why people were upset about what Donald Glover said at the Writers Guild Awards.
I was at the Writers Guild Awards because a hell of a week was nominated for Best Variety
talk show series.
We didn't win.
We lost last week tonight by John Oliver,
but it was a-
Good company.
Yeah, it was a dope event to go to,
you know what I'm saying,
just to have, you know,
the whole team there.
Not really my type of room.
You know what I mean?
But...
Why?
I like creating.
I don't need the Hollywood to do shit.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I like creating.
I even enjoyed being nominated,
you know what I mean?
But I don't like the...
I don't like the Hollywood vibe.
Like, Spielberg was in.
in there. You know what I mean? It was cool seeing Spielberg. Spike Lee got honored as he should.
They only showed one of Spike Lee's movies in his montage, which I thought was very strange.
All they showed was he got game, different scenes from he got game. I don't know why. That was
strange as fuck. And Donald Glover presented Paul Sims, who's like a big showrunner in the business with an honorary award.
And he made a joke about, I guess they said it was about Chevy Chase. You used to.
in the N-word. I didn't get that from what he said. I got him trying to allude to it,
but it was just weird, you know, and everybody's making it a thing. Like, oh, Chevy Chase,
Donald Glover says Chevy Chase called him the N-word on the set of community. I didn't see that,
but can you scroll down a little, Taylor? There's audio to it. The award was named after
Erb Sergeant, a writer who worked on SNL and came up with the weekend update with Chevy Chase.
and Chevy Chase once called Herb, one of the funniest writers working in television.
And Chevy Chase once called me, you know what?
This is about Paul.
Let's do some asking idiot, all right?
Nino Blue says, what is something you are actively trying to improve on every day?
Naila.
Um, uh, you're just so perfect.
No, no, no, but I don't know.
I guess just balance, I would say.
Like, trying to eat help.
There's a lot I'm trying to accomplish out.
Have you ever tried balancing on one leg like that with like both?
I used to do that shit all the time, yo.
Yeah.
That was my move.
When karate kid came out, yo.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't even know if I can still do that shit.
You want to try?
I doubt.
Come on, let's try.
Oh, God.
And your pants too tight, Char.
Okay.
Easy.
You know, let's try harder back in the day.
No, but not.
you got to do the switch kick.
Yeah, don't do that over here.
No, you got a kick.
What the fuck are you doing?
All right, okay.
Have you ever seen karate kick?
Just, I just,
too much.
Yo, I'm not going to lie, Charlotte.
You might fuck Michael B.
Jordan up.
That right there, though.
That right there was a problem,
bro.
I'm not going to fly.
I'm not lying.
Dude.
He just switching to mollets up
multi-nees and shit right now.
That was crazy.
Yo, you're a good karate fighter, man.
Yo, Charlaman.
Everybody was Kung Fu fighting.
You didn't have to do their accident.
That was not the accident.
A white guy sung that song, though.
For real?
Yeah.
You know what that song is about?
Kung Fu fighting.
Masturbation.
Really?
Everybody was Kung Fu.
It is.
That's a real thing.
That is a, that is a, I think that's serious.
Corner says,
Shawla, update on the next book.
Damn it, discreet hungry.
Working on it.
Third book is on the way.
What is the third book going to be about?
Yeah.
Yeah, I tell y'all, closer to the time.
It's time.
But no, it's, yeah, working on it.
This year?
What stories are you going to tell?
Won't be next year.
It'll be, it'll be soon.
But it won't be, it won't be this year.
Can we got a couple other releases coming out from Black Privilege Publishing this year.
We got two releases coming out in the fall.
I cannot wait to announce the first one that'll be out.
But yeah, we got a couple releases coming out this year.
Go get a state of emergency by Tamika Mallory,
how to win in the country we built,
and go get shallow waters by Anita Copac.
Those are the first two releases from Black Tulips Publishing.
And I got two coming out this year,
two books that I'm excited about, man.
So I'll be making those announcements real soon.
Oh, this is a good one.
Yasmi Up says, if you were gay,
who would be you?
your ideal celebrity partner.
Come on, bro.
What?
Come on, bro.
What?
Don't do that.
Do what?
Don't do that.
Do what?
Don't do that.
You're afraid to announce?
Don't do that.
Why, you might run into them and get bricked up.
Don't do that.
Don't want them to know you bricked up.
Don't do that, what you mean?
Don't do that.
What you mean?
Don't do that.
Nile?
I feel like you're just trying to instigate.
Nyla, my ass.
Envy or Schultz?
I said, Nilele, if you were gay, who would be your idea?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
No, this girl's.
I know fucking mind.
Oh, okay.
What's going on right there?
If I was gay, who would be my ideal celebrity partner?
Did they need to be gay or can I flip them to gay too?
Wait, huh?
Who would be yours, Nile?
Oh, they as in the person.
Yeah.
What'd you think I was talking about?
I don't have one.
You don't have one?
There's no girl that you could les up and then you'd want to be with?
No.
If you were Les.
If you were a big old boat.
You're a big Les.
No Rap City.
I'm okay.
There's not a single girl that if you were a carpet munch, you would go afterwards.
You would go after, not a single one.
Cat.
Big cap.
Okay.
We know you do.
Of course, you're already 49% gay as is.
So you're just waiting to get tipped over.
You're gay?
Yo, get over there.
Because you said a girl laid you out.
That's definitely gay.
That is actually what gay is.
Like you said earlier, just giving head.
Like, I'm just laying back.
I'm trying to be at peace.
You gay.
I'm trying to be at peace.
So if I was just laying back in a guy gave me head, would I be gay?
Definitely.
Okay.
It's not different.
It's not different, you double-stand it, having ass human.
That ain't that gay if a guy gives you head.
Why?
You got to stop.
Wait, wait, wait.
Everybody was Kung Fu fighting.
Yo, I'm trying to make your argument.
Come on.
Um, well, I would say making a stallion.
you would be gay for Megan the Stallion
You see how she twirks
Oh you like a twerk
Stop she's been through enough
That's the last thing she needs
What's the last thing she needs?
You
Let's go
What else?
Wait, why is she saying that?
I don't know why are you
Why is she coming?
And how are you going to ask the question
And not answer?
Who would you be gay for, bro?
Nobody.
Come on, yo, that's cap
That's cat
That's a celebrity
Come on, bro
That's a celebrity
Not a celebrity.
That's way worse.
I know, not the celebrity.
What about,
that means you really like somebody on the long.
That's a guy who drives Uber.
Yeah, right.
You're just really into.
First of all,
why would you disrespect me like that?
What you mean?
If I'm going to ever be gay.
Okay.
And give up these cheeks?
Wow, you're a bottom to.
It's going to be for somebody.
It's going to be for somebody with some trillions.
All right?
Oh, not a celebrity.
I don't know a fucking celebrity.
Okay, so who?
So some Saudi Brent.
is going to shit on a table in Dubai for you?
Is that what you want?
Nah, I don't want no Saudi.
Why not?
Um,
go on,
bro.
Why not?
Ah!
Yeah,
your brain is a crazy thing,
though.
You don't have to say shit.
I said some shit in my mind,
and that shit was enough for me.
I don't care if the pot is.
You're telling me.
But my body is exploding.
Oh, no, but it wouldn't be for no celebrity.
They have got enough money for these cheeks.
So who...
Who said I'm going to be a bottom?
What?
Who said I'm going to be a bottom?
You said you're giving up the cheeks.
You still...
Bro, when I mean even giving up the cheeks,
I mean I'm going to let somebody crack them.
I'm just saying they still going to see the cheeks.
You know what I'm saying?
They're going to see the cheeks, bro.
That's giving it up, bro.
Come on, man.
You ain't never, you're not going to sit here and tell me.
The Prince hit that stage with his ass out.
People wasn't like, yo, he giving it up.
That's what they mean, man.
The mental gymnastics to spin out with some just out.
For real, yo, you don't think so?
So you're just going to walk around naked but not let nobody crack?
That might, that's enough for some of these rich old motherfuckers.
Wait, so that's what you go.
What are you talking about?
That's more than enough.
There's people that pay for that type of shit.
Just get naked.
Play video games with me or some shit.
So that's what you would do.
You would just play video games.
some really rich guy.
Depends what I was at in life.
Jeff Bezos?
Depends why I was that in life.
Depends where you're at in life, right?
Well, tell me.
You can't ever say you wouldn't do something
until, you know, what if you
done hit rock bottom and your kids are
starving and you know what I mean?
Like, you know, she's sorry.
It's crazy.
You wouldn't play video game.
Hold on. I'm talking about.
You're broke.
Dead.
Dead to the world.
Like,
crazy.
And this guy's like, I'll give you $10 million to play video game
butt-necked with me.
Nothing else.
Yeah.
You wouldn't do it?
I'd be honest, I'd do it if it was for the Last of Us three.
If they put out the new Last of Us, if he just had access to the new Last of Us,
you didn't even, you're cheap.
You're cheap.
He's going to play the video games.
That's it.
We're going to butt-necked and play video games.
That's it.
And then I can leave right after.
That's right.
That's all.
And you got to reset the game.
But it's a girl.
You got to reset the game every now and it.
It's a lesbian.
So you got to reset the games.
That means you got to get up.
So they're going to see.
They're going to see.
It's in that doo-doo hole.
They're going to see.
Make sure to no toilet paper remnants.
You got to make sure.
I know you girls don't know a lot of white.
$10 million.
That's a lot of money.
I already told you.
If he said last of us, I'd be like, oh, where are you?
Last of Us?
I'm like, oh, where are you got last of this?
Let me get this straight.
So they got the third part of Lassobust.
The moral of the story is people want to start or you want me to stop.
I've been waiting for this game for so long, man.
Laszbo's part two is so excited.
I just shut the wall.
Bro.
By the way, this is a hypothetical scenario.
This motherfucker really wants Lastonvice, yo.
You want my watch off or can I keep my watch on?
What is best for you?
He really won't Lastin' Us 3.
Your man over there getting private footage for a little later, bro.
He's going to be Kung Fu Fighting.
I'm getting the fuck out of here, man.
I'm getting the fuck out of him, man.
If you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent,
you think we're brilliant.
right. But if you look to this podcast and you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know
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