The Brilliant Idiots - Sibling Rivalry Podcast: Episode 6

Episode Date: March 4, 2020

Episode 6 of Sibling Rivalry Podcast with Lenard Mckelvey and Angela Rye and they discuss the candidates in the presidential race, Super Tuesday, and more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, Charlameda God. You're not going to say your name. You're just going to sit there. I thought your name is Leonard. Leonard. Hi. Leonard. Seed of God, McKelvey.

It's Angela Rye. What's happening? Our sibling rivalry. This is like, where's our, we're like quarterly now? We're doing when we can, though. We really busy. And we're not on the same coast. We need to do better.

You in L.A. I'm in New York. I'm in D.C. Sometimes you go to D.C.? Yes, to go hollet my folks like Senator Tim Scott. You know what I'm saying? Those great conservatives. Is that what you're doing?

Yes. That's what I've done a couple of times. What is Tim Scott done for you? That's how we're going to start. Tim Scott actually is looking out doing it. Doing what? Tim Scott cares about South Carolina and he cares about the black community in South Carolina. Oh my God.

Do you know that he's supporting Trump judicial picks? Yes, I do. But I think that he's one of those people who. Who I'm bringing it all. I hope you know that you are literally giving me all the ammunition. I want you. I think he's one of those people who gives a little to get, to get it. get some. I think that he gives

a whole lot to get a little. That is incrementalism, which is what we were just talking about. Don't all party people, though? Come on, let's be free. No, no, no, no. I feel like he is far more egregious because the types of people that Tim Scott supports, including the president,

he didn't even vote to remove Donald Trump when he knows that dude was wrong as two left shoes. No Republican did except for Romney. But I'm just saying that Tim Scott should have at least voted his racial interest. No, you know. why? Because Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

Well, you know what? And y'all fall in love with people who don't do shit for us. Well, you're just speaking of Tim Scott. Nope. Tim Scott has gotten some things done as far as black legislation. Opportunities on legislation, the Black Farmers Initiative. Hey, I'm just like, I'm just. What Black Farmers Initiative? Did he support and which one was he helpful on? Because it wasn't with the Pickford settlement. I don't know anything about a pig. Okay, but I do know.

And Tim has introduced me to some people who. I'm not caping for anybody. I'm just saying that I've seen firsthand some things that Tim has done, at least for the state of South Carolina. Give me my third one. The third one is he introduced me to somebody that is going to be very helpful in some future endeavors that I have going on. But here's the thing.

I don't care about people's politics. That's my thing. I care about my interest. No. No, I don't. No, I don't. Because if your politics conflict with my interest, if your politics caused me to fall on a sword,

if your politics caused me to sacrifice what's in my best interest, long term, I have a problem with you. No, that's not true. No, no, no, no. But what if you're... But what if that individual whose politics you don't agree with, the interest, your interest,

they can help you grasp and you can help empower your community for years, for decades to come? I agree with that, but I think that if you are cool with Tim Scott and you have not at least challenged him on, the judicial picks that he is falling in line with... We've definitely had those conversations.

What did he say? I mean, I don't think that's for... Yeah, I don't think that's for, you know, public consumption, but we've definitely had those conversations. Okay. What about Democrats? Democrats fall in line. Let me talk about one more.

Wait, before we go to South Carolina, I just want to shout out Jamie Harrison, who's running for the Senate against Lindsey Graham and is killing it. I hope he wins. I really hope he wins. I hope that party people and non-party people and black people from both parties in South Carolina would support Jamie Harrison and really turn out in November. so that he can defeat Lindsey Grant. I'm going to have him on Breakfast Club.

I'm going to try to help him. We go to a podcaster. You and Jamie? Yeah. It's supposed to be in L.A. I heard he's dope. A lot of people ride with him. He is.

I've known him since the Hill. We call each other thought partners. Thought partners? Thoughts. T-H-O-G-H-T. You hate that. You said thought partners. Yes, that's what a thought was before I thought.

I think you might need to change that to maybe intellectuals. No. Individuals. But Jamie, just like you, is truly like my brother. And every time we sit down, This is what we do. Well, say y'all have a cerebral connection because thought partners sound crazy. That's not the right thought, you death-ass.

I don't know what it sounds like. Y'all on the hill getting it in. No, that's not what we were doing at all. That's not what we were doing. The point is that we- It gets stressful on the hill, I understand. That's fine, but that's not what it is. It's brain-thinking partners.

There you go. Thinking partners, thought partners. Anyway, he's one of my favorite thought partners because we are always trying to figure out ways to make things better for the culture, talk about what's wrong with the party. and changing it. He's just dope. So, you know.

Today is Super Tuesday. We're putting this out on Super Tuesday. We should have started with wellness. We needed a wellness moment today. I think we should get right to it because the day of the day that people should go out and vote. Where are you registered to vote at? I'm registered to the vote in Washington state. Okay.

So you're not, you're not a part of Super Tuesday? Mm-mm. Okay. No, it's next Tuesday, March 10th. Why are all the Democratic candidates so trash? Okay, that I'm not answering. My nose is about to run. I need a tissue.

What is your tissue at? Why don't you want to answer the question about the Democratic candidate is being trash, though? See, that's the problem. We lie into the people. They're uninspiring. Listen, I think that it's important for us as human beings who talk about mental wellness who are trying to become our better selves every day, not to call another human being trash.

Okay, well, their policies and their ideas are trash. They're definitely lackluster. Yes. And what I would say to you is, what was the question again? Why, let me rephrase it. Yeah. Why are the Democratic candidates so uninspiring? Yeah, I don't know.

But I can tell you, I agree with you in a lot of ways. The person who is still in the race, who I'm most impressed with, is Elizabeth Horn. Why? Her black agenda is trash. I like that same rising tide, lifts all boats, bullshit. I think that Elizabeth Warren, I like an approach. appreciate because I believe she really listens to us. There are a number of black women who work on her campaign.

Okay, I like to hear that. Yeah, who are not just like figureheads or in certain roles. She listens to them. And I like the fact that she really has consulted people in developing her plans for everything. I think that she's had some missteps. I think that she definitely could have used some additional work on her black agenda, but she supports reparations, not just a plan or a study. She supports reparations.

I'm going to be honest with you. I don't care about that. Okay, I do. She supports HBC. Because you know that it'll never happen. I don't agree with that either. They used to say that about a public option for health care. Now, every single candidate is talking about a public option for health care.

So you think that this government, this government will one day cut black people a check that will put enough black people in a position of economic power. You really believe that? Here's what I really believe. I believe that if black people really truly begin to everything, embrace our power politically, economically, and otherwise, we can absolutely hold this government, the very one that stole our labor and never paid us, accountable to pay reparations and to ensure that there are social equity programs that exist in every industry for every school, for every

local government. Slave owners on the state and local and federal level were paid reparations. So yes, I think that there is time for us to have an equitable situation. You said the owners, though. The owners. Yes, that's the white man. That's white people looking up all the white people. They end up looking out for us. Okay, I'm not expecting them to look out for us.

I'm expecting us to trust in our power enough to look out for us. I'm just tired of us embracing things that make us feel good as opposed to embracing things that could actually make us good because the idea of reparations makes us feel good. So it's just really a talking point that somebody has to say. I don't, I don't, I know when they say the study of HR 40. Why do you got to study it? I agree with that. It shouldn't just be a study. And that's why Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, this iteration of the bill, goes beyond a study.

It is about a commission to come up with proposals for. And that's beyond a study. I still don't think that's sufficient. If they're studying how much we're old, that's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But just what does this study mean? Like, we know what- It is proposals that would make the most sense.

So a lot of people have talked about, oh, we can't, like Bernie Sanders was saying initially he was opposed to reparations because he didn't support a check going to someone, which also is asinine, because that should be our right too. But this is about ways to ensure that reparations actually occur community by community for us. So it's supposed to be going beyond the traditional approach that people will see, which is like a check. Okay. So you like Elizabeth. I've studied, because I'm only voting my interest in 2020.

Good. My interests are the economic empowerment of black people. I read her Black Agenda. To me, it seemed like it was a part of a larger, over. a raw agenda and it's more of a trickle-down thing and I hate the trickle-down thing because it's the good guy, the good brother Van Jones said that a rising tide, you know, doesn't lift all boats because black people's boat has a hole in it. I think we don't have boats.

Damn. I don't think we have boats. I think that we have been forced to swim in a rocky tumultuous sea. Woof. Without a boat, without even, you know, the little air muscles that you learn that just to like fin for ourselves without ever taking a swimming lesson. So shit, we need a boat first. I do agree.

And that's what reparations does. Reparations gives you a boat first. That's what to me, that's what black agendas that are focused on economic empowerment for the black community does. I agree. So I'm not saying that I disagree with you. I agree with you that there should be proposals for an economic agenda. The other thing, though, I want to hold us accountable for why we're expecting people who have never walked in our shoes to come up with an agenda that's our problem.

That's the fact. What's the young lady name? I'm about to go there. So this past Friday, we had a live podcast. Well, not we. You didn't come, even though you were in L.A. Yes. I was doing me.

I had meetings. I don't care. I'm trying to get my own reparations. I need to buy a boat. Well, you could have learned about a boat if you would have came to the podcast. So Alicia Garza, who's a co-founder of Black Lives Matter and also founded Black Features Lab. Black Features Lab is a super dope entity that talked to Thursday. 30,000 black people in the country, the largest black survey in 150 plus years,

talk to them about what their interests were, and then developed an agenda from those conversations. So to see and to hear black people from all economic levels from every geographical region in the country is exactly what we should be expecting candidates to do. Before they come and tell us what our solution is, they should be talking to us about what we need. I agree. And so the fact that Alicia took it up on herself with Black Futures Lab

to do just that is incredible. And what we need to be doing instead of like, where is so-and-so's black agenda is make them sign on to support the agenda Alicia has. Yeah. That's what we could do. So I don't care if they have a black agenda or not. They need to support this one.

Yeah. This one I know is in the interest of all of us because they talk to so many of us. I agree with what's in there. The only thing I'll say is I think that the reparation section could use additional work. Like I would love for them to talk to like West Bellamy, who came up with the social equity package in Charlottesville, Virginia,

when he was still vice mayor. That should be incorporated in there. And I don't think that Alicia's point was, this is exhaustive. I think she was like, this is a starting point for us. Yeah. You know? Black people are old. It's just a matter of what that looks like.

Yeah. That's all. I wanted to ask you a question. How come we cannot ever have conversations about individual candidates, not even candidates, but just individual initiatives these candidates have presented without being called a surrogate? Because, for example, if I say, if I'm on CNN and I say I like the Douglas plan, they'd be like, oh, you're endorsing Matt Pete. I'm like, no, I'm not.

I said I like his Douglas plan. If I say I like Bloomberg's Greenwood Initiative. Oh, yeah, how could you endorse Bloomberg? He didn't stop his first. I'm not endorsing Bloomberg. I'm endorsing his plan. Yeah, you're talking about the things that they're presenting that you think are worth that are valuable are worth looking at.

I agree with you. I think we live in such a polarizing society right now that people just can't get their heads out their asses. Like, for example, every time I post a new podcast or was posted a new podcast with a presidential candidate, people would be like, that was my phone, I think. People would say, where so-and-so? Oh, you endorses so-and-so now. Like, on every single post, you can go back and look. And for the most part, the ones that are like, where's your one with Biden? Where's your one with Bernie? I started telling them, ask your candidate. Because they're the ones that aren't confirming. You know what I mean? They're the ones that I can't book. So ask them.

Anyway, but yeah, I think that's super frustrating, especially because people, one of the things that I'm doing now is this app called community where I can text people to engage with me directly. The question they're asking the most is like, who are you supporting? And it's frustrating for me right now to be like, I still really don't know. I'm supporting ideas, not individuals. But you have to vote. Who would you vote for? To be honest, are you registered votes South Carolina? No, I'm registered in New Jersey, actually.

Because the first time I ever voted was for Barack Obama. And, you know, I made the, I'm not going to say I made the mistake. I just didn't know. I was new to politics. I was the first time I ever voted, period, local, you know, on a national level. And I voted because I liked the person. Yeah. I voted because Barack, everybody, Barack was a wave.

Like, the culture was behind Barack. GZ had my president in his black. Jay Z was talking about Barack. Barack was away. Barack was on people's outfits. We had Barack jackets. Like, he was a wave. I voted for an individual and not my interests.

Right? Right. And so now I'm all about voting my interest. I'm going to say this. I do think that there were places where Barack Obama could have been way stronger. If Barack Obama was on the ballot today, there would still be no question in my mind that that's where I'm going. I think my approach would be different, though, because I wouldn't expect the black president

to act as a black or civil rights activist. I would still know that's my responsibility. So I would still vote for him today. There's no question, especially in this field, no question. Well, explain to me this. Yeah. Why do Negroes like Joe Biden? Why?

Well, I think that... He ain't shit without his homeboy Barack Obama. Well, he's, and I think he might know that. That's why he's clinging to him. He wrote the 94 crime bill, which caused mass incarceration for so many black and brown people, won't even admit that it was a mistake, won't apologize for it,

and has presented nothing to oppose that. He has no black agenda. Yeah, I think there are a number of things. One is, I think there is certainly a divide, by age. I think that there's a geographical divide on support for Joe Biden. I think that there are a lot of people in the Democratic Party that feel like we want to go with the safer option and they know he's been around enough to know exactly what they're going to get. With the crime bill, you know, Joe Biden keeps referring to the fact that like, well, the Congressional Black

caucus supported this bill, which is true overall, but there were members like Maxine Waters and Bobby Scott and some others who were like, we actually can't sign on to this and are not voting for it. So I think he should be careful with attributing that to all CBC members. Putting it on all the black people. Blaming the 94 crime bill on black people. Well, and part of that is fair because there were mayors too who asked for that. That doesn't mean that it should have been done in that way. And I think the challenge I have with how he's talking about the crime bill right now is he doesn't sound apologetic about it at all. He would lock you niggas up tomorrow. Yeah. And I mean, it sounds, it sounds, it's scary to me.

And why do we love him? Why is the media acting like he's the only electable candidate? I understand that the Democratic establishment hates Bernie Sanders. But why are they acting like Joe Biden is so electable and can beat Trump? He's only won one primary. What are they seeing that I'm not seeing? That makes them think America loves Joe Biden so much. Here's the credit that I think.

Huh? Oh. Sorry, I'm not talking into the mic. How's that, too? Is that okay? I got a kiss the mic. Can you hear me now? Two people with glasses look at each other.

that, can y'all see? No, I had to look all the way over there. Did you see that? I ain't got no proof of it. I got you. I think that, would you ask me? I asked you, why do people like Joe Biden? How is this an interview?

It's supposed to be a conversation. It is a conversation. I'm saying what I think and you say what you think. Yeah, why do people like him so much? And why do people think he's so electable when he hasn't even won a primary? Oh, so I was going to say to this point specifically, um, Joe Biden, they're deeming electable because he was at least a part of a ticket that went to, when.

twice, right? Barack Obama. Before there was a Barack Obama presidency, Joe Biden won several successive terms in the United States Senate. And he did not win a presidential election, right? But I think that that's what folks are banking on. The other thing that they're banking on right now, and this is what we're talking about before we started, there's this human decency factor that folks are starving for right now. Joe Biden is someone who has experienced a ton of trauma, losing his wife and daughter, and then losing his son much later. But Bo Biden recently, which of course is the reason why we know for a fact he didn't run in 2016.

But there's something about him that people feel inherently connected to like he's everyday Joe. I remember folks talking about when he was still in the United States Senate, he would ride the train from Delaware, like the regular coach car from Delaware on Amtrak talking everybody and people love that about him. Some of my former bosses who adore him love the fact that even when President Obama was not responding to calls from the CBC, Joe Biden would.

And so there are those types of personal connections that we just can't escape. For example, a second ago when we were talking about who we support or who do I lean the most towards, I told you that I have friends that work for Elizabeth Warren. And those friends have been responsive to me. Those friends when, you know, I wanted to do these podcasts to interview presidential

candidates reached out to me to do a... That's a completely different kind of relationship. You feel like, man, I got your back like you have mine. That's the kind of relationships that Joe Biden has with the CBC. He was an associate member of the congressional blackout. Like all of these other things. When I met him, I met him from Mr. Clyburn at an event. And they're really friends, you know?

So it's those kinds of connections. I think that, yeah. I mean, the reality of it is just like you were like ready to go to bat for Tim Scott. You don't agree with everything ideologically with Tim Scott, but that's your dude. Yes. I don't understand that. But once again, I don't give a fuck about feeling good.

I want to do things that actually make us good. I know. And I'm telling you. They think. Tim Scott has pointed me in the direction of things that I know will make our community better. Right. And they feel the same way about several other things, probably not the crime bill with him, but several other things, several other experiences.

even leading up through the Obama year. I would not hold the crime bill against him. If he said, I apologize. I agree with that. It was a mistake. I want to spend the last seven years of my life, however much longer he got left, you know, fixing that. Yeah.

That's the thing I give Bloomberg. Bloomberg admitted it's a mistake. No, but he admitted it was a mistake. Like, they have been begging him to apologize for years. He apologized after he announced he was running. That is very true. That is trash. That is trash.

But guess what? He still does. That is something Joe Biden has yet to even do when he's running. You know why? Because he know y'all y'all niggins love him. Who is y'all? This is why me and you fight. Who is y'all?

Okay, not y'all, and meaning you. And I'm just, my thing is- But y'all, that's at the polls right now, casting your Biden votes. Yeah, my thing is that, um, I don't know, you know, like, I believe that Joe Biden is a decent person. I don't know what I think about Bernie in that regard. Talk to me about that, because you, you schooled me to something yesterday. I didn't know.

I just got to be honest with you. First of all, like, how Flavent Flav you get fired for this? That was wack. That is so wack. And why doesn't Bernie get called on pandering? Bernie can have a boombox with trade of truth, talking about he walking around the hood with it. Bernie can have his picture with public enemy logo in it.

And nobody said Bernie's pandering. But let Kamala Harris do that. Yeah. Let Cory Booker do that. Let Hillary or somebody do that. Oh, my God. Penda, Penda. Y'all be killing them.

No, stop saying, y'all. I'm talking to these niggas. That's listening. Whatever. Anyway, the point that I want to raise is like, I just take issue with the fact. Let me say this first. Let me just tell it all.

I got an email. I was on air with Cornell West, asked about what black women Bernie Sanders has paved the way for on air. And right after I asked that question, I got an email from the woman who runs his communications, Brianna, who said that he was no longer available to do my podcast. Just because I asked the question, right?

Like maybe she would say that, oh, maybe she would say, oh, no, I didn't even know that you just had that segment with Cornell West. I had no idea. But right after that, he was no longer available. My other issue is, I think that's trash, by the way. But my other issue is Bernie Sanders served several terms in the House of representatives with members who are my former bosses, the Congressional Black Caucus members. They say that Bernie Sanders didn't hardly speak to them, let alone vote for a CBC alternative

budget, which is very much in alignment with his interests and his priorities from a budgetary perspective that, you know, based on the policy prescriptions that he's pushed forth. And then he wasn't in alignment with them on a lot of things, including the 94 crime bill, which he voted for as well. Which he says he voted for because there was a billionaire that stopped what was, violence against women or something like that. Yeah, that was Joe Biden's bill. I'm going to tell you the reason I don't agree with that answer.

I don't agree with that answer is because you know how many black women, you know, were ruined because of the 94 crime bill. You know how many wives lost their husbands? How many daughters lost their fathers? How many women, black women went to jail under the 94 crime bill? So to me, that was just, to me, when you're saying you're looking out for women and you don't want violence against women. You're really talking about white women. Well, here's the thing I'll tell you, too, and this is hard.

Like, not to defend the crime bill, because again, I don't agree with most of it. But the assault weapons ban portion that was in it and the violence against women act portion that was in it, I do agree with. And what happens on the hill, having worked there, is there are a number of times where in order to get something moving, you have to attach it to a less comfortable vehicle. Yeah, but who gets sacrificed? I know. I know.

Black people. That is my point. Why are we so easy to be sacrificed? That is my point. The problem I do have is that more often than not, we're the sacrifice of and that is not okay. That's right. So when people say to me, and I know Bernie, that makes it even worse.

Yeah. The fact that Bernie protested against it and said how wrong it was. You knew that. Still was cool making the sacrifice. And he might say, I hope he would say that he was not aware of what type of consequences would be in store for black folks. you know, you didn't know. Like, I hope he would at least say that.

There are a number of CBC members, for example, that say they voted for it then, but they had no idea how bad it was going to be. Anyway, the only other thing I'll say is... Let me what policies, Bernie has. Is there any policies, anything on the table that you like that you see? Yeah. I like the... Student loan debt.

Yeah, student loan debt is a big one. Medicare for all... Some iteration of a health care system that makes it... a right for people and affordable for people and is not about keeping health insurance companies in business. Just because, what do you don't say? I say the legalization of marijuana. Yeah, all of them support that.

Yeah, but he wants to, I think, you know, if I'm not mistaken, he wants to create, like, an opportunity for us to own our own dispensaries and things like that. And actually, people that were victims of the war on drugs to be able to actually make money off it. Yeah, I haven't seen the portion about the dispensaries. I could ask Killamike. I'll call my lifeline. Listen, if it wasn't for Killer Mike and say,

under the Nina Turner, I would not be checking for Bernie Sanders at all because my only mentality with people like Bernie is when we say we love these people, I need to know why. Don't tell me he marched with Martin Luther King Jr. I don't care about that. I will tell you that Nina being there and Killer Mike being there has like always been the reason why I would give him. Absolutely. I do have take issue with the fact that he's still not getting a ton of support. He can write it off as Democratic establishment. But I think there are some people who I really trust with my life on the Hill, on Capitol Hill, who don't support him and have some real issues, not just with the policies he's pushing,

but the way that he shows up as a person. And so I think that that's important. I don't know how many black people in senior leadership Bernie has on his campaign. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seriously. So I'm like, how are you going to do for me, which you won't even do on your campaign? Yeah, I already have a very diverse staff, though. Okay.

Who is the most senior-ranking black person? I don't know. Like the fact that I'm telling you, I engage with the senior black folks on every other campaign. I didn't know nobody on Amy's team. I didn't know nobody on, well, I know people on Bernie's team,

but they're like the face of it, like Nina and Mike and Sean, but I don't know any staff besides Brianna who pulled the plug on my interview. And that's the other thing. The black staffers in these campaigns that will work to sabotage opportunities Y'all still going to be black when all this shit is over.

I mean, damn. You're still going to be black. You're still going to be. And you still going to have to deal with us when all this shit is over. Y'all need to read Miseducation of the Negro. Yeah. Because that's just it. Like at the end of the day, you don't ever burn a bridge.

You have to cross later. You got to cross again, especially a black bridge. We don't have many bridges. But also, like, that's not what the white folks on the campaigns do. They put each other on. Yeah. Anyway, I'm tired of it now. I've been bleeding about that for the last few weeks, I guess.

I'm sorry. But I mean, the whole point. You can hear me talk about that on this. And on the phone, huh? Yeah, but I'm cool with it because the only point of this conversation I want people to have, you know, being at the day of Super Tuesday and you voting. The point of this conversation is don't just fall in love with people for the sake of falling in love with people. Don't fall in love with individuals. Fall in love with ideas.

What are your interests? What do you care about? I know what I care about. I care about the economic empowerment of black people. I care about mental health. These are things that I actually care about. Let me ask you this. Okay.

Out of the two. Well, no, and that's the other thing. Shame on us, too. we're talking about this race like it's just two white old white no we talked about Warren we talked about Biden we talked about Bernie I was ready to set up out of these two out of Warren Sanders and Biden all of the things that you care about knowing that some of their agendas may or plans may have blind spots and have not included them who do you think is the most reasonable the person you could get through to the easiest to put your stuff in whatever

their plans are none of them I would have to see honestly I would have to see that running You know what I'm saying? And I guess I'm going to be, I guess Bernie in that situation because I know Senator Nina Turner, because I know Killer Mike, because I know they can get to him. But those three as individuals, no. And I've gone to Nina and Sean and Mike. Sean is another one. I went to all of them, even just about the podcasting and didn't get anywhere.

So I'm saying for me, based on my experience, is Warren first, Biden in a distant second, and then Sanders a distant third from there. And it could just be solely on relationships, but that has been my experience so far. So that's where I'm likely to cast my vote. If Warren doesn't drop out before my primary, which is next Tuesday, and I hope she doesn't, that's who I'm going to vote for.

Let's talk Bloomberg. People swear that I'm getting... They swear I'm getting a check from Bloomberg, simply because I said, I like his Greenwood initiative. But also, you know, it's too many black folks who are or have, have gotten checks from him and as a result of receiving support from him, they all were like

caping for him. That's a shame that when we on TV, we have to say that. I'm not one of the black people that Bloomberg fan. Yeah, like, I'm not at all. I think stopping fritz was a racist policy. It was racist legislation. But that's not all his minority contracting was abysmal in New York. His position on redlining is ridiculous.

But we have to admit one thing. What? He's dumped the bag on black people, whether it was people's people's, people's, mayor campaigns, whether it was the young men's initiatives for black and brown Latinos, supported Andrew, Stacey. Supporting Andrew, supported Stacey. Like, he has put his money where his mouth is. Also, kudos to Andrew and Stacey for not jumping out there on the Bloomberg train,

even though he supported them. This rumors that Stacey might be his VP picked. Whatever it is, but you didn't see her like with those little, you know, the little graphics on social, like Bloomberg's done so much for me. I'm supporting him. But that's the beauty of social media. Social media makes everybody hesitate a little bit, right? No, there's a whole bunch of black folks that did it.

Like black ears all over the country who were doing that? Because listen, the guy has put his money where his mouth face. That's true. And he's, he's apologized. He said it was a mistake and he said he wants to do things moving forward. Now, fuck all that because I don't want to sound like I'm a Bloomberg surrogate. All I'm simply saying is the Greenwood Initiative is what I like. A hundred thousand. I thought you said it looked like, what would you cost?

What? Somebody else is. Senator Harris. They said Senator Harris's plan. Yeah. Yes, they say he took Senator Harris's plan. Did he pay him like that? No.

Since he's throwing money. out and he plagiarizing. He needs to give her some money for it. I would hope that all the candidates steal all the best ideas from other candidates. That's real. That's what I would really hope. Can you at least give credit though? That's like cultural, what is it, cultural, political

appropriation? She's sitting there using it right now. You don't know what she's doing. She can introduce legislation that's in alignment with what was in her plan. And she already has, actually, before she was running. If one of them, well, let me say this real quick. The Greenwood Initiative, the only reason I like it, because he wants to create 100,000 new small black owned businesses.

He wants to have, create a million new black homeowners and he wants to put $70 billion in the most porn-disenfranchised communities. Now, a lot of people will say, I don't know, he'll never do that. How do you know Bernie, you fucking erase through the loan debt?

We don't know none of this. You know what I'm saying? They're all selling us dreams. You like the fact that that's his intent. And it's an economic empowerment plan for black America. Creating, we're already the fastest growing group of entrepreneurs, at least black women are,

right? Creating more black business owners who have one employee that are averaging about $70,000 a year in annual revenue is not sufficient. So what are you going to do to ensure that these business owners have access to capital to sustain their businesses? They can't go get a small loan from their father of a million dollars like Donald Trump did. In his plan, he talks about all that, how they need to address the issues with the banking and all that, the loans and all that.

He addresses all. Or even asset management and pension funds, which again wasn't as great under him under his tenure as mayor. So again, you know, the very same things that people held Mayor Pete to account for for small little South Bend. They're not holding Bloomberg accountable for in New York. And they're not holding Biden for either across the country with the goddamn 94 crime bill. I think that people are.

No way. People are holding him accountable. No way. Yes, it keeps coming up. It's come up in almost every debate. We've seen Bloomberg how many debates? Two. One.

Two. What was the second one? He was in, uh... He's so little. I didn't see him. He was in, too. He was in, because the first one was terrible, then it was the second one.

It was the bounce back. He did too, so far. But my point is, you've heard about the stop and frisk over and over and over. They barely hit Joe about the 94 crime bill. And when they did hit him in the last debate, he's straight up lied.

You 94 crime bills started mass incarceration. That's a lie. No, it didn't. I'm like, God, damn. And ain't nobody can hold them accountable? Well, I think that in several other debates they did. I don't know why that happened. That is true that happened.

But I don't know why that happened. But debates, articles, interviews, he's been held to account for that. I just don't think that the voters necessarily have been holding him to account for that. And maybe they're like, oh, well, his tenure with Obama made up for it. I don't know. No. Because they reduced some of the crack cocaine disparities that existed from the crime bill under that administration.

Maybe that's why I don't know. But, yeah, it's troubling. And I do think that for someone who was that tied to that. particular issue, he should absolutely have a very clear laid out black agenda. Yes. Reparations not just for slavery, but for folks who were. Yes. ... impacted by the crime bill.

I agree with that. And out of all of those people you just named, their running mates are very important to me. I really feel like when you're an old white man, I feel, I really feel this way. I feel the first person who picks a black woman or woman of color as their running mate. That's who's going to win the nomination. I truly believe that, whether it's Biden, Bernie, or Bloomberg. Who would you...

So if any of them, let's say that Biden, no, let's say that Bloomberg picked Stacey Abrams. You're going for Bloomberg? It depends. I got to see what everybody else does. And I know people think that's tokenism, but it's not tokenism. No, but I'm saying, let's say, for example, everybody else picked white people. I'm giving you scenarios. Bloomberg picked Stacey Abrams.

You're going for Bloomberg? Yes, because Bloomberg, I already like his black agenda. And now he got a black woman as a VP. Let's say that. And Stacey Abrams, who's more than qualified, by the way. Because I don't want people to think this is tokenism. No, no, no, no, no. He should have ran for president.

Because it's only three women on my name that I think she'd be in that position. Okay, hold on. The next one, Bernie Sanders picks Nina Turner. You vote for him? Woo, yes, sir. Okay. Yes, indeed. That's the country's love. Yes, indeed.

And Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris. You vote for him. Yes. Yeah. I agree with all those. Yes. Yeah. And that's because all three of those women are overqualified for their positions.

And people got to shut the fuck up when they talk about Senator Harris and her record. as a prosecutor. I know for a fact that's something that she wants to make amends for, but guess what? She was making amends for in the Senate. It's so stressful. She was. But also, y'all ain't giving Amy Kloberchard, no smoke.

First of all, I am so done with that. Like, not only is it her prosecutorial record, she was voting for Trump judicial picks even this year in the Senate. How do you justify that? Good night, sis. I can't. I was over Amy. And then the fact that she could stay in longer than come.

It was disgusting. We got to go. Is that where you live? Yes. No, I'm saying, I know you had to leave. What else do we have? We need like that. I mean, I think that's all it was.

I just wanted to, you know, jump on for Super Tuesday. And I know that, you know, next week people will be voting as well. I know people will probably hear this because the polls are open until 7 o'clock. We can just throw this out. And I just want to see if we can help people figure out who it is to vote for. But me personally, I'm just telling everybody out there, vote your interests. Vote for ideas. Not individuals.

I did it again. What? I erased Elizabeth Warren in the podcast. I gave you three black women for candidates, Bloomberg, Sanders, and Biden. But you know who I didn't ask you about? Warren. So who would you want for Elizabeth? What if Warren picked Ayanna Presley?

Or she could pick Castro. Or what did she pick Andrew? Nah. What? I love Andrew and I love Castro, but do you black... Oh, you're on your black one ticket. If all four of them had black women VP, that would be tough. And the ones you named Elizabeth and Iiana Presley?

Because Iiana got out there for Elizabeth Warren early. I think the only thing that could potentially work against them is they're both in Massachusetts. You know? Yeah. So from a geographic diversity standpoint, Elizabeth Warren has a case to be made for going after Florida. So getting Andrew, if she, you know, if she were, you know, thinking like that right now would help her because, Bernie has lost Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

With the communisms. And that would be good for Democrats, man, because let's be for real. After Barack Obama, the Democrats are supposed to get younger, blacker, browner, more diverse when it comes to the gender. Yeah. We haven't seen that at all. It started off that way.

But how are we down to these old raisins? Yeah, I don't know. And why stop calling these people raisins? Vanilla-covered raisins. That's what they are. You know what? The other thing that I think is important, and I know we don't have a lot of time to talk about.

about it, but like, we should be okay with not talking about party people and it being okay for folks to just vote in a particular party, right? Like, I vote Democratic, but I don't necessarily identify as a Democrat. I don't. Do you know what I mean? I only registered a Democrat because I want to vote in local elections. That's it. But I'm not a Democrat.

I don't, no. But I vote Democratic. I'm a progressive. You know what I mean? And I'm going to vote my interests. And I'm not part of the establishment. That's not a desire that I have. have. I'm only voting for interest and ideas from here on that. I promise you. It could be on

the red side or the blue side. Who has the best ideas and who has our best interests at heart? Not Tim Scott. Tim's a good guy, man. This podcast should be called Not Tim Scott. Why are you doing that Timmy? Because I can't believe that you, I'm going to send you all the stuff that he's supported that flies in the face of your interest. I'm interested in economics. I know, but that has to be No, no, no, no. But I think that we can balance our economic interests with social justice. I don't know. Yeah.

I don't be honest with you. I don't know. I hear what you're saying, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure that I care as much anymore about trying to make these white people not be racist. White supremacy is going to always exist. White supremacy is going to exist as long as we allow it to. And I think we have to combat oppression and call it what it is. It's not going to disappear because our economics are better.

That's why you tell racist. bigots to suck your dick. Okay. Fuck you. And if you got to put hands on them, sometimes you got to put some hands on them, Angela Ryan. And on that, no. I don't know what just happened.

Are you okay? Do you want to end with a... Would you like to end with a devotional? Do you have a devotional moment? I do, actually. You do? I do. What did you read?

Because I need one today. I do have a devotional. Hold on. Oh, you mean like a devotional? I had a quote that I've been riding with... Okay, read the quote. All day long. is a quote that I've been riding with. I want everybody to feel like this, right? And this is a good

quote because even when we're talking about people that are part of parties, whether you're red or whether you're blue, right? Don't really is going for the blue more than anybody. Yeah. Don't let your loyalty become slavery. If they don't appreciate what you bring to the table, let them eat alone. I just want to stop you throwing slavery around here. Let me find something else for you. One of my friends this morning sent me a message that said, hold on, maybe everything, everything is in divine order already. Hello? Maybe everything is in divine order already. Maybe everything is in divine order already. Yes. To me, that's hard for me because, you know, I don't like the current state of our condition.

You said a long time, and I think I've resisted it a lot, that maybe this. season that we're in politically is designed to help black folks actually unify behind some things. But I hope that we will take it as just that. I don't see us moving towards that right now. Yeah, but I don't think that we should get in the way of anything that the universe possibly has planned for America or the world. Because guess what?

Rome had to fall too in order for the new Renaissance to come. So maybe that's just where we are. Because I'll be honest with you, I don't see a path to beating Trump. I'm going to go out there and I'm going to vote. But I don't see it. I don't see it because of Russian interference. I don't see it because of voter suppression. I don't see it because of voter suppression.

Or if we were both to talk about that, too. We got time? No, I don't. I don't go to my speech. Well, next time. We have a part too. We definitely will. We just wanted to come back for everybody.

Maybe we could do like 15 minutes tomorrow after breakfast book. We can't? Yeah. Oh, yeah, can we can talk about what happened afterwards? Yeah. Okay. We have to hurry up tomorrow. We're putting this out right now.

No, I mean, tomorrow we have to get on a plane. You're going to wear that dumb-ass hazmatch suit you had on? Absolutely. What's wrong with you dressing like you work at the nuclear plant at the Simpson and the Simpsons? I need a mask. I need gloves and I need that suit. And you know what? I felt safe.

You have anxiety? I feel like you should appreciate this. I have anxiety, but I let going. I let God in certain situations. Well, I'm not getting the coronavirus. I don't want the coronavirus, the Hynecan virus. But I will tell you this. That shit, this is just the latest scare campaign.

Because what happened to SARS? What happened to bird flu? What happened to Ebola? SARS plus Ebola. Ziki. plus swine flu plus bird flu all combined to equal coronavirus Have you read about the coronavirus?

They literally said that when you get the coronavirus you don't even have to necessarily go to a doctor. They said you can treat it like a common cold or the flu. And they said everybody that's died of it here in America. Who is they? It was on USA Today. They said everybody that's died of it here in America where old and already had previous medical conditions.

That's all I'm saying. I'm coming down now because Lenari's talking about the coronavirus could be treated at home. I'm coming down right now. Thank you. Let him lie to me today. Sibling Ravery podcast, peace. Bye.