The Brilliant Idiots - (S)oy Vey

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

On this episode of The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz get into the madness of New York City politics, rent prices going through the roof, mayoral chaos, billionaires vs. bro...ke artists, and why everybody swears they’re moving out of NYC but somehow never do. They break down affordability, housing struggles, and what makes New York the most frustrating but still undefeatedcity in the world. From communism jokes to remembering “the rent is too damn high” guy, to debating whether LA, Atlanta, or Miami can really compete with the city’s culture, the conversation goes everywhere it’s not supposed to, as usual. If you love unfiltered opinions, loud laughs, and the type of honesty that HR departments hate, you’re in the right place. Download Cash App Today: [https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/zt3hy9x9] #CashAppPod. As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: ⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots⁠ 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God ⁠Pre Order⁠ The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel ⁠Order Link⁠ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley ⁠Order Link⁠ No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF ⁠Order Link⁠ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God ⁠Order Link⁠ Check out Andrew Schulz ⁠www.theandrewschulz.com⁠ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" ⁠https://blackeffect.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:32 Andrew Shull. You are the brain idiots podcast. Has the Kyle Walker. Yo. What's happening? Tell him, my man. How you've been, man? Week's been good.
Starting point is 00:00:39 A lot changes in seven days. What the fuck has happened? Bro, we're communists now. Oh, Zoran got you. He got us, bro. He flipped you? We got us, man. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Tell me what you like about Zoran. We're communist, bro. You know, we believe in that. We believe in all that communist stuff. Yeah. I'm praying five times a day. I don't know what other... You know, I'm praying five times a day.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I stopped eating pork. doing all the communist shit that you're supposed to do. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the fuck that means. I'm trying to tell my wife we're getting another wife. I'm a communist now, bro. I believe.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I believe it. Turns out communism not that bad. I like Zoran's messaging. His messaging has always been affordability and he stays on message. He doesn't let anybody take him off message. Bro. Watch the New York City debate. Isn't it a debate tonight?
Starting point is 00:01:23 There's another one. Yeah, there's another one. Yeah. I watched the debate last, what was that, last Thursday? Yeah. You know, I'm telling you, y'all sleeping on Big Curtis, though. On sleeper? Someone said, someone said the other Curtis that got shot five times.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Damn. You're sleeping on Curtis, though. But I don't know. I don't have a dog in this fight. Who are you voting for? Who am I voting for? That's a good question. I'll be honest, I'm a New Yorker.
Starting point is 00:01:49 We don't vote in mayor elections. That's mostly people who, like, move here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you're born and raised in New York, you usually don't do that until you become, like, you know, your father's age. Yeah. So when I'm like, probably 50 or 60,
Starting point is 00:02:01 I'll start voting. But I don't know. I think a lot of people are making this election about something that's not. Like, I see, I see all this conversation about, oh,
Starting point is 00:02:12 this is, it's going to be Muslim in the city or the city's going to fall apart. The city is this. And it's like, this election is not about socialism or anything like that. It's like whatever candidate
Starting point is 00:02:25 said that they were going to lower the rent the most was going to win. Bro, that's it for me. That is the only, so it's not like, well, they're embracing socialism. If Curtis Lee was said that he's going to pay for everybody's rent for a year, he would win. Affordability. Who is talking to America's pockets, bro?
Starting point is 00:02:44 But it's specifically rent. Anything. No, no, no, no, because New York is a little bit different. I was looking up statistics. Apparently, in New York City, rent has gone up 90% in six years for two-bedroom. Oh, I believe that. 90% I believe that.
Starting point is 00:02:59 This shit right here would be $3,400 in the... Oh, easy. This little room where... The bed is right there, the bathroom's right there. It's disgusting. So what I think
Starting point is 00:03:09 a lot of people around the country don't realize, right? They're just seeing this and they're like, oh, they're seeing free buses and free this. Nobody's stressing off the free buses. Like, yeah, it's probably nice of shit is free.
Starting point is 00:03:18 The free child care is key. Don't give you wrong. But more than anything, it trickles down from your biggest expense, which is rent. Half of New Yorkers monthly pay Aechecks go to rent. Did you know that? You know that he needs to give. What's my man that was saying the rent was too damn high? Remember that guy? I brought this up. Black Santa.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Black Santa. Because our children can't afford to live anywhere. Nowhere. There's nowhere to go. Once again, why? You said that the rent is too damn high. Yeah. The rent was too damn high guy. He started through, bro. Yes. He absolutely did. New York eccentric. A real New York eccentric. But yeah, but yeah, the rent is too damn high guy was this like obscure political figure in New York that actually got popularity because people were feeling that push already. Jimmy McMillan is his name. The name of his party was the rent is too damn high. He started at all. It wasn't. I think the rest of the country doesn't realize this. So it's like,
Starting point is 00:04:17 the rent is so astronomical in New York and has increased so fast that people just need a lifeline. And they're in this situation where it's like, if someone doesn't, help me out, I got to move out of New York. But here's the thing. You're right, but the rent is too damn high everywhere. And what I mean by that is, in New York is astronomical, right? But rent prices have gone up in places like South Carolina, too. So you might move to South Carolina and pay significantly less because you're in New Yorker, but in South Carolina, like, God damn.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Compared to what they make. You know what I'm saying? Some asshole is bulldozing all these condos and making crystals. No, we got two. Don't worry. I'm about to open a trailer park, guys. Don't worry. I got it.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I got you. Affordable housing? I got you. Say less. I got you. I'm doing the trailer park. All right? So I think that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Like, I don't think it's progressive this or I don't think it's conservative that. It's like whatever candidate was going to come in. And he did a remarkable job in getting his messaging out. Affordability. But it's like affordability is the issue. And I think they look at, I think people looking at, I think people are looking at Cuomo and they're like, bro, you lost already. you fucked up with the nursing homes you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:05:33 and you were touching on people and you resigned because of it so that's kind of like almost an admission of guilt does any of that matter in the Trump era bro no this is what I'm saying is I think that people look at it like you just lost already like you're trying to subvert the democratic process and that's obviously something
Starting point is 00:05:49 the Democrats have never done like they would never do that well he was an idiot for trying to run to the Democrat anyway well here's the thing if he ran as an independent originally? I would have more respect for it. But you ran as a Democrat and then lost and then you're like, okay, what else can I do? And you're backed by all these billionaires who don't feel the stress of the rent increases. Yeah. That's an interesting thing. It's like, of course the people that don't want
Starting point is 00:06:11 Mondani and are the people that are unaffected by the cost of living. I heard an interesting theory that somebody thinks Mondani is a plant. And the reason they think he's a plant is because they didn't run any like other candidate against him. That's actually good. Like you had Mayor Adams and you had Andrew. Cuomo, right? Oh, I forgot about Brad. Oh, shit. Get on the mic.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Oh, yeah, I forgot about Brad. But it was Brad, but Brad didn't seem like an establishment candidate either, though. It didn't seem like there was a lot of money behind Brad. Like, it didn't seem like there was a real push behind him. Yeah, I don't think he's just, I don't think he had a campaign, bro. I think, I think, I don't think. But that's my point. But he was a legitimate candidate.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I mean, he was the city controller. He's a longtime city councilman. I mean. You got to know social. bro. You got to go social. You got to know how to push your message. And you got to have the message it matters. Whoever, what's it going? Mom Dani is doing exactly what Trump did. I said that. Freeze the rent is build the wall. Affordability. What did Trump say? He said, he said, we're going to build the wall and Mexicans are going to pay for it. Mom Dani came in. He goes, we're going to freeze the
Starting point is 00:07:18 rent and billionaires are going to pay for it. It's like you can see this amazing parallel in terms of their populism. Trump said I won the election off one word. groceries. Mondani's like I'm winning the election of one word. Right. Affordable. Well, it's rent, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I think it's affordability. Yo, here's the thing. What is his plan? I don't actually know. He never asked, by the way, when he gets asked out of the debate, he never has an answer for it.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Who? Who? Mondani. Yes, he does. What are you talking about it? No, repeated. What is his plan?
Starting point is 00:07:47 Well, he's going to freeze rent and he's going to build a foreign policy. How? All right. So, here's how you do it? The rent has gotten freezed? I'm a little bit. How is it going to freeze?
Starting point is 00:07:54 That you not need me a play? I'll tell you how. I'll tell you how he's saying that he is going to endeavor to do it. Okay. The mayor appoints the board of people, the rent control board. So there are certain people that are already there. They might be open to his ideas. They might not.
Starting point is 00:08:14 But within two years, all their terms will have come up and he will have appointed all new ones. So within two years, he can freeze the rents on rent-stabilizer, rent-control apartments in New York. that represents about 50% of the apartments in New York. 55%, yeah. Or 50% I think. So the other 50% are just free market. Okay? Did I already lose you?
Starting point is 00:08:35 You already texted somebody else? No, no, no. So you asked me a question and go on your phone. I'm got you, man. I'm multitasking. I'm really just looking up something. So the other 50% of the apartments in New York are on the free market. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:47 So he cannot touch those. Okay? The way, so what people would say and what I was telling him is like, Listen, you could freeze the rent within two years on the rent control rent stabilized apartments, but what that's going to do is put more pressure on the free market rents. Because what happens is, as we know, if you grow up in the city, if you get a rent, stabilize or rent control apartment, you don't leave that shit. You just do not leave it.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And if you're going to freeze the rent there, you double not going to leave it. Now, there are shitty landlords that try to push people out. It happened to my boy Carlos growing up. They just stopped accepting your rent. They're doing anything they can to get the rent, stabilize people out so that they can turn over the building. that is a thing that does happen. But then I also have friends that had a rent-stabilized apartment, but they had a house up in Hudson Valley.
Starting point is 00:09:29 They shouldn't- They rent the stabilized apartment. Or they pass it down. Like, they find ways- How these side chicks. Exactly. You get your side chick and a rent-stabilized, right? She can't have free market pussy.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's cheating. Come on, that's Dubai. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why we got out there. No. So basically what happens is,
Starting point is 00:09:47 50, so what you could say is by freezing this 50%, it's going to spike the rent on this. 50%. And then what he says is over the next 10 years, he's going to build 200,000 units. Now, how is he going to do? Over the next 10 years? Yes. Okay. So how is he going to do that, right? He plans on doing some Doge stuff in like in Doge's inception, which is like creating more efficiency models in the city, punishing landlords for having these vacant apartments and creating and raising taxes on the rich to create like, what is that, 30 billion of those $100 billion he says he's going to rate. And then the other 70 billion he wants to sell municipal bonds,
Starting point is 00:10:23 which are essentially bonds for the city. Now here's the thing. He can't sell those bonds without asking Albany to increase the debt ceiling. And if he has a governor there that is not willing to do that because it might, you know, create a lower bond rating for the bonds of the state, then there's a chance that he won't be able to sell that many and get that money. So that's the restriction there. He will be able to freeze rents for those 50%. That could cause a spike over here. And if he doesn't loosen up the regulation for people to actually build stuff,
Starting point is 00:10:59 which is the only thing that will solve rent problems. The only thing will solve rent problems is if you let developers develop. And unfortunately, there are a bunch of regulation in the city right now that basically makes it financially not feasible to build anything over like 99 units. Where do you even build in New York City? Did he talk about converting commercial real estate? Because to me, that's the... I think about like 15-15 building.
Starting point is 00:11:25 That's not going to be Caesar's Palace no more, but it wasn't going to be a hotel. Some place like that could probably work. This is the tricky thing. 1515 is where we did MTV back in the day. It's like... So basically the tricky thing about converting office space or like commercial to real estate to residential is you can only convert the building if there's not a single existing tenant that's on a commercial lease. if there's one tenant in the whole 50-story building that's on a 10-year lease, you can't.
Starting point is 00:11:54 You can maybe pay them to leave, but you can't do it. You can find ways to try to pay them to get out, but if they got a nice deal and they have their office and their business is profitable, why the fuck are they trying to move? That's very difficult. Another issue with the office space is that it wasn't built for residential, so there's not proper air, there's not proper access to lighting and windows. That's costly to kind of renovate. So there are issues with just flipping a building over.
Starting point is 00:12:21 It's not as simple. Like, these midtown office buildings are built different than just a random office building in fucking Alpacurkey. So I ask again, where are you going to build new housing in New York City? Well, even if you want to build new housing, anything you build, you got to go through Albany. You have to get approval from these different boards. So no matter what- That's actually what I was looking up. I was looking up all the reasons he couldn't do it. Yeah, U-LERP?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Huh? Shurp is like the... Oh. No, no, no, no. I thought you had. No, no. I wish I did it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I thought you fucking... You slurped would have been great. Yeah. You're thinking of only New York City like Manhattan, but there are the five boroughs. There's a lot of land in Queens, Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There is a place for affordable housing. You gotta want to live out there, though.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Yeah, people will. People will. People will. People want to leave New York. Listen, you can make... That's not true. Say again? people don't want to leave New York.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Well, that's not true. So here's the thing. People, it's not, I don't think anybody wants to leave New York is the greatest city in the world. I also don't think we want billionaires to leave New York. Like I was just telling the guys this. It's like, what makes New York amazing is that you have billionaires to pay for all the expensive shit and poor artists to make everything cool. And when you have both of them together, you have the most magnificent city in the history of the world. But you know what you need billionaires paying the most?
Starting point is 00:13:43 Their fair share of taxes. Oh, no. Everybody's on board with that. But keep in mind. They'll never do it. That's just for you and I to pay. You and I pay their taxes. You know that, right?
Starting point is 00:13:52 Anyway, so, but my point is, my point is, like, if you just have billionaires, you got, like, San Jose or, like, the nerdy tech places. Nobody wants to fucking live there because it's just all dorks. And if you have only, like, artists, you have Portland. Nobody wants to fucking live there, right? Well, I guess they have, like, Amazon and that kind of shit, but you have, like, the shitty, like, hipstery places that suck.
Starting point is 00:14:10 When you got the rich motherfuckers willing to pay for the crazy shit and the cool, broke artists that are willing to make, make things interesting and fun to go see, you've got this amazing amalgamation of people. And it increases the value of what the rich guys already have because why I don't understand they don't get it. Those rich guys, there's a part of me. It's like you're not really seeing the value of more creatives. Yes. Like the fucking frog eating the... Exactly. And if you take one of those animals out of it, the whole thing falls apart. So it's like, but on the same point, if you take those billioners out of here, shit's going to fall apart. So we need to create an
Starting point is 00:14:43 ecosystem. The problem is the cost of living because of fucking bullshit. I don't want to say bullshit, maybe well-intentioned legislation that ended up having negative results has completely stopped the construction of huge buildings in New York City. It's just stopped there. I don't think New York's worth the expense, bro. You're here. Yeah, but it's because I have a career here. But for people that just want to live here to live and paying $3,000, $4,000 and rent for a freaking
Starting point is 00:15:11 400-square-foot apartment and all of the money we spend in New York City between tolls and congestion prices, all that shit. Where is the enhancement to the city? Like, this shit should look like Dubai, bro. I've been saying this for a year. Why doesn't New York look like Dubai? Why doesn't New York like Chicago? Why don't New York like Chicago?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Why doesn't New York look like Dallas? No, I think... Come on, man. Those downtowns are beautiful, bro. No, I mean, New York is absolutely. We want a little... Okay, how about... Why does Manhattan look like Brooklyn?
Starting point is 00:15:41 What? Brooklyn look way better than Manhattan looks. No, this part's a New York. I don't think you know... Yeah, you don't try. Bro, Manhattan? You literally- That's Tribe-Bet.
Starting point is 00:15:49 No, by the way, Tribeca's gone down tremendously. The opposite. Over the years. The opposite. I ain't been there in a while. I know. I used to work down there. We used to work down there every morning.
Starting point is 00:15:58 You didn't- That shit was the slums when we were down there. I was getting jumped down there. You were- I got jumped on there twice, motherfucker. I'll be honest. I jumped in Tribeca twice. You worked in Chinatown, bro. You ain't really working Tribeca.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I'll be honest. You worked Tribeca at Basin. You work Tribeca is nice. Tribeca's nice. Nice. Soho's nice. 5th Street is nice. East Village is nice. Shit, people move up to the Upper East Side. It's got a smell.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Not the West Village got a little smell. Yes, booty hole. Some people like that. You know what I mean? I'm just saying New York, there's a lot more to be desired for the money that's spent. Yes, but that's always the deal with New York. When you're paying for rent in New York, you're praying for access to the city.
Starting point is 00:16:39 You're not paying for just your little cubicle. What does the city give you anymore? The greatest culture. That's my point. The question is how much culture. You don't really go outside of work. So you don't see all the stuff. I hate.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I hate what people talk like this. Can I tell you? Can I just tell me? Broadway restaurants. I go to Broadway all the time. Yes, that's a reason to be in New York. No. Broadway, restaurants, party.
Starting point is 00:17:00 No. That Broadway area needs more. Let me tell you. Broadway needs more than Broadway. Can I tell you? Can I tell you? Can I tell you? Can I tell you?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Can I tell you? Yeah. Because they got Broadway. This is what, this is what New York has that no other city. has. It's true diversity, and I'm not talking about just different races. It's true ethnic diversity and economic diversity. What I mean by that is in LA, they got diversity, but everybody lives in their own little country. Armenians live over here, Mexicans live over here, black people live over here, white people live over there, the Jews live over there. I agree with
Starting point is 00:17:35 that. They don't really... I agree with that. We live on top of and next to each other, right? So the average New Yorker has spent so much more time in China, than any person on the place, obviously there's other places that have Chinatown. They understand there's like entire neighborhoods, there's entire streets that are just Indian restaurants that are right next to a place that's like an economic hub.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And the broke kid that grows up in a project happens to live one block from some Google. Headquarters. Not in the tech world. No, no, no, but it's not about that. What I'm trying to say is... It seems accessible. A lot of the places, right, in the world,
Starting point is 00:18:13 at least from like, in my experience, going, it's like you kind of live in your area and you don't even really go out to see anything else. Because New York is literally so on top of one another and we all will take the fucking subway, we are all intermingling, you get access to certain levels of wealth and levels of poverty
Starting point is 00:18:29 that most people don't understand. What about those people who are living... Rich people in Beverly Hills? Well, maybe it's a little different now because they're getting robbed all the time. But they don't know about Compton like that. What about those people who live in Brownsville who said they've never even been to Times Square?
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yeah, well, the further out... New York has never been to Tom Square. We don't go there. We don't go to Times Square. That's just you. That's for you. Time Square is for Taurus, but he's talking about Broadway, but there's nothing down there but Taurus.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Listen, I know a lot of the Broadway plays you've been through this year. Two. Two! That's a lot. Yeah, that's it. I've been to, like, eight. You're gayer. Like, what do you want to?
Starting point is 00:19:02 All I want to say right now. And I know y'all are life. You're the president of Yulr. And I love New York City. New York has been great to me. You realize you're making my case. Just say, what is New York have to offer? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:12 You're coming into. New York for the thing that I just said. But I have a career. Let me tell you. I have an actual career. Let me ask you a question. No, no. I think what Charlemagne is saying is this.
Starting point is 00:19:23 And I don't know if, but if you're, if you're 45 years old, you got a family of three and you're working for UPS, for example, right? And you're busting your ass and you're grinding. And your rent is astronomical. New York ain't the amount of money. It's a struggle to do that. A hundred percent. I get that and 100 percent.
Starting point is 00:19:39 And I think a lot of people will probably agree with you. I think there are a lot of people that are in those positions are like, you know what? I might have to move out to the suburbs. I got to provide for my family. This rent is just unbelievable. It's crazy. But for the 22 to like 32 year old who has that like, it's almost like a right of passage.
Starting point is 00:19:55 You finish college. You move to New York. You get into the hustle. You're an artist. You're going to take some job that you hate so you can work on your fucking art and you're going to achieve your dreams. There's nothing more sense. You walk out your building, bro. You walk out your building and all of a sudden you're going to see some fucking celebrity walking.
Starting point is 00:20:11 And a celebrity you actually respect. walking down the street, walking their dog. You're like, what the fuck was that? You're going to walk into a restaurant. Yes, dude. You're going to walk into a restaurant. You're going to walk into a restaurant from a country you didn't even know existed and try a food
Starting point is 00:20:23 that you didn't know what could have been created. It's like everything is at your fingertips in the city in a way that's not in other places. When you say celebrity, you mean like somebody that's here visiting because they're. No. Somebody could be walking out. Who, Robert De Niro?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Yeah. But he's 80. I walk into a restaurant. You. Andrew. The Conan O'Brien. I was like, oh. Who is 50-something years old?
Starting point is 00:20:46 It doesn't matter, but I'm just saying... It's just like right there. It's there to you. Like, I know what you're saying, but there's other places that you can experience that. No. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Atlanta, you can experience that. LA, you can experience that. What are we talking about, guys? You can speak that often nowadays. Listen, I think the biggest threat to New York outside of affordability is the internet. Because I think the internet is what's undercutting...
Starting point is 00:21:07 Explain. I just look at my kids and I'm like, I always had this vision to like raising kids in New York and like, because to me, even coming from somewhere like Philly, which is very adjacent, New York was always three months ahead,
Starting point is 00:21:20 five months ahead. They had the music first. They had the fashion first. You know, and then most of the country was behind Philly. Other parts of the country could have been a year and a half. Yeah, yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:21:29 But the New York kids were all, you know, Canal jeans company. Oh my God, that's where they, you know, you pick any of these institutions and they got to see music before anybody else. You can go down the list. But now you're saying the internet is a modernized culture. My kids are consuming the same culture largely that somebody in Arkansas is consuming.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah. Yeah. The difference is in Arkansas, and this is not like the fine. It's what you said. My kids also get on the subway every day. Remote work helped. I think remote work, I think, change you. I think remote work showed us that like, hey, there are other awesome places that are awesome for different reasons.
Starting point is 00:22:04 People moved out to Utah and they're like, oh, my God. Like New Yorkers for the first time in our lives are like, yo, nature's kind of fire. Florida. You went to Miami for COVID. I loved it. I loved it. I was so happy in Miami I couldn't write jokes. You're bumping the celebrities all day there in Miami.
Starting point is 00:22:17 That's what you care about. It's not about bumping the celebrities. But I guess my point is like there is just so much and so much excited. There's an energy on the street in this city that is unlike any other place I've ever been. I've traveled the whole country. I've traveled a lot of the world. Like, I'm not saying there other places aren't amazing. I mean, shit, if you have kids in this city, like, in all seriousness, if you have kids in a city and you can get them into a good school,
Starting point is 00:22:39 New York and probably London are the only places on the planet New York and London are the only places on the planet where if you get your kid into a good school their peer group will end up being as successful as all the people who go to Harvard
Starting point is 00:22:56 for the same reason what I'm trying to say is when people go to Harvard it's not just for the education it's for the fact that all the people going there are some Prince's kid a senator's son or president's this but you have that in elementary and middle school
Starting point is 00:23:08 I can tell you, not me, I went to public school, but if you can get into a good school. You have it in public school too? Yes, of course, of course. But less so than if you're going on one of these. I probably bleep this,
Starting point is 00:23:20 but the school my kids go to New Jersey, it's unbelievable. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's unbelievable. But it's private school, though. But the value of that peer group is, I mean, it's just indescribable, right? It's like the access that you have for those people,
Starting point is 00:23:35 and those are going to be their true friends. They're not like, they're not friends because they were networking. They're friends because they first, you know, learned how to finger a girl together. Like, they have core memories with these people. And then they grow on. You can do that in a poor disenfranchised area?
Starting point is 00:23:49 Even more stuff. In fact, it's better. Yeah, right. Get a little chito dust. I mean, it's like, I got a family friend. A wealthy area. This kid just promoted a party for, it's one of Playboy Cardi, the story lonely.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I don't even know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's 16 years old. He goes to LaGuardia. He just threw a party with 3,000 people. He cleared like $100,000 at the door. Like, this kid is on a trajectory. You can only do that here.
Starting point is 00:24:17 You can only do it in New York. You can only do it here. Shut your arrogant New York asses up. That is not true. Okay, okay, okay. What the fuck? You can do it easier here than you can in Columbia, South Carolina. Yes, but you've named Columbia, South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:24:33 What about Atlanta, Georgia? What about Los Angeles, California? What about Austin, Texas? What about Miami, Florida? You can do it easier here. No. And it's cooler. It's cooler.
Starting point is 00:24:42 It is. Why do you go to Miami for COVID? Because they're open. It was COVID. And Miami's fly. Well, no, because they don't believe in rules. You get on a plane and go to Miami for the weekend. They don't believe in rules.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Everything was still open. Why do you go to the Hamptons every weekend? That's fire. You see what I'm saying? You barely hear of it. But that's still New York. I'm not going to lie. I was in L.A. last week.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I would move there tomorrow. Really? See, I don't feel back. Yo, I'm with you. I don't like L.A. Listen, I'm not saying I don't like LA. LA is cool. I'm just saying...
Starting point is 00:25:09 If you could do it at the highest level, it'd be amazing. So my... We're at the highest level. My issue with L.A. is a philosophical one. Yes. And that, like, one of the coolest things about New York is we still value greatness. Authenticity. Authenticity.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Like, Curtis Slewa is a celebrity to us because he's this unique, interesting character. The best skateboarder is going to be popping here. the best artist is going to be pop in here, and we gravitate them, we love them, whereas L.A. is a star-based city. It's built around entertainment superstars. So you could be the star of the biggest movie that sucks, and you're going to get way more love
Starting point is 00:25:50 than, like, the indie director. Interesting person. Fuck that. Just an interesting person. We got to be honest, though. We value interesting artists and great people here. And what is interesting, I'll give credit to some of the billionaires. What the billionaires realize, and this is what the tech bros are starting to realize.
Starting point is 00:26:08 It's like they work their whole life to make billions of dollars thinking that that's going to make everyone like them. And then they realize that they can't get laid. And then they start going, fuck. Like, I thought once I had all this money, my life would be good. And then they go, shit. So then they start hanging out with the party guys and they see if they can, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:24 entrench themselves into those groups. New York, you don't need to be the tech bro. Matter of fact, there are clubs right now that are like actively trying to not let the hedge funds and tech guys in because they think it's going to fuck the vibe. but it's never just been, yo, I got the most money. And once it does,
Starting point is 00:26:39 it starts to become uncool. But we got to admit that there was a time New York had more of that, a lot, lot, lot more of that. Like, who's the last huge artist to come out of New York City? Cardi.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Cardi B. Who's the last huge comedian to come out of New York City? Andrew. But think about how few and far between that's been just over the last decade. Salome is a kid who reps New York. I didn't even know if I was from New York.
Starting point is 00:27:05 He went to the same school as, uh... No, no, he went to PCS? No, he went, well, I know he went to LaGuardia. Went to LaGuardia, and then I think he went to NYU. He's born... I didn't know that. Yeah, you're a city kid. Okay, so three people. I mean, that's recent.
Starting point is 00:27:17 They're more. But they were in the 90s? Think about the 80s and the 90s. Also, when New York was really the hub of culture. I think, I think what's also happened is like, we've become older, so we're less aware of what's going on. And I also think the internet has created a thousand different cultures. Like, we don't exist in monoccur.
Starting point is 00:27:35 culture anymore. There's like a thousand different small things. So where like you were telling me that kid through this party with 3,000 people, none of us knew that shit happened. But 16 year olds were probably like, yo, this is the crazy. Oh, it's crazy. I just think that with all of it, and I go back to my original point, with all of the money that we spend in New York, if New York looked as futuristic. New York should look like the fucking city and the Jets is at this point. That's all I'm saying. New York City. I think I would change what it looks like. I think I would go like if you felt like you were getting things for that. money. Yes. And this is something I was talking to Zorn about. It's like, listen, we have an antagonistic
Starting point is 00:28:11 relationship with government in general. Like, that's the history of America. Like, hey, we don't want to pay those taxes. Let's go to war about it. Like, we constantly, we set up our whole governmental system, assuming that they were going to be corrupt people and they were going to try to us assert power. And we're like, all right, well, let's divide this shit up so they can't do it. So we already don't trust government. So we haven't actually lived in a place where the government, we felt like was doing something for us. So I was like, listen, if you can be successful, Vince New Yorkers that the government can help them, you could change the way we see government. But you're going up against 400 years of us going, government sucks and government tries to
Starting point is 00:28:44 fuck you. So you're going to run into a lot of pressure. I think New York just governs itself. Well, that's why we don't vote for mayor. That's why none of us care. Yo, have you, how many, like, sign, sign, sign, sign. Now, I vote everything. I'm one of those outlies. I bet you. Whoever comes in and puts money into the city. Yo, the subways, what if the subways look like the Amtrak? from fucking New York to D.C. You get nice food and fucking some drinks. The subways don't even look good
Starting point is 00:29:12 for all the money. It is crazy that they haven't found a way for the subways to make money. We literally have to use it. Because of the way it looks. You need to let like some drug dealer run a subway. Like, you know what I mean? That's all I'm thinking, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:29 It's addiction at the end of the day. We have to use it. How do you not find a way to make this problem? Have you ever rode the train from New York to D.C.? Yeah. When you ride the train from New York to D.C., you'll see elected officials on there. You'll see senators on there because you can actually go. Because it costs more money to get on.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Because it's worth it. It's worth it to spend $100 a fucking day to drive into the city. All I'm saying is for the money that the subways make, they can look better than me. These subways don't make money. That's all I'm saying. Why are we arguing? The MTA looks disgusting. No, nobody's arguing with that.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I'm actually trying to talk about, like, how clearly inept they are. Like, it's fucked up. Like, how is it possible? possible at this place. Now, what I'll also say is that it's a 24-hour system, and I think it might be the only one that exists in the Western Hemisphere. That was largely built 100 years ago, and they can't shut it down. That's the problem. You can never... Yeah, you shut it down. Eight million people are going to be like, the fuck what's going on here. Well, start the construction, bro. The same way they've been working on the GWB for fucking 20-plus years, start the construction on it.
Starting point is 00:30:27 But how do you do construction? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You know what you got to do, and I'll be honest to you, and it sounds fucked up. And, like, they're going to be a bunch of, like, developers to make a whole lot of money off it. People are going to be upset. But you almost need to go, yo, for the next 10 years, developers, build whatever the fuck you want, and you don't got to pay taxes on it. You just need to say. I love that idea.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Say it. They already do. Now, they do now. That's why they're not building. But here's my question. When they weren't, they were building, though. The most influential group historically in New York, at least for the last hundred years, has been the developers when it comes to politics.
Starting point is 00:31:00 They have the most money, and they throw it around. the most. From what you're saying about Zoran's plan, it would actually be a windfall for them because it only works if you can build new units. But he wants to build it with the government. I mean, he's saying he wants to work with. Why wouldn't they be behind them then? He says he want to work with local developers or whatever, but like it's they don't have the incentive structure based on profitability that he wants, right? It's like the only reason why these luxury buildings are going up is because that's the only thing you can make money on. One little bullshit, you know, kindergarten in the first floor to get a tax abatement and
Starting point is 00:31:29 then the rest of it is market price units. Listen, look. The point is we have a real rent issue here, and the only way you get around the rent issue is by having more, it's supply and demand, you've got to have more units. And in order to do that, you've got to let these developers fucking develop. I don't know if, I mean, Zoran thinks that the city can do it, like the government can do it. I don't know if that's been proven to us to be effective in the past. That's going to be tough, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:54 That's... You have housing projects, essentially. Yo, Slewa actually has the best approach in terms of actually solving it. Like, he's like, yo, we're going to wipe back all this regulation. Now, the problem is it won't protect these people that are in rent stabilized. It won't protect these people that are in rent control. Like, a lot of those might lose their thing so that people start renovating those places and don't have the vacant.
Starting point is 00:32:18 So tennis will get fucked. But he actually has a thing that in the long term will help the most people, which is more housing. If Zoran Wins, he needs to find a place for Curtis in his goddamn administration, yeah. Make Curtis Police Commissioner or something. Like something, Curtis's got to be in the administration. Listen, how does China have so much development and innovation? Because they're hundreds of years old as the country. They're cooking a book.
Starting point is 00:32:42 The economy is, perhaps. I said they're cooking the books, not the barks. Sorry, Chris. Sorry. But my point is, you can see China. The problem is they put. so much money into it and it was all... What the way?
Starting point is 00:32:59 No, no, watch. But there was no real market for it. And now you have literally entire cities. Ghost cities. Of abandoned high rises. I think they're even destroying something. So America, New York City in particular, has billions and billions of dollars that they don't put into it.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And we know if we did, the people wouldn't go anywhere. It wouldn't be a ghost town. But we need drag queens to read to the kids. Could we build? This is what we need. How about this? What does New York City have that it doesn't utilize? right now.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Prostitutes. What? Fucking, did he scared everybody, bro? A lot of clothes. Did he scared everybody? Did he scared everybody, bro? Prostitutes ain't worked since. Prostit.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Postline. Yeah. How about we build barges? Hold on, hold on. Wait a minute. We build barges. Chris accessing a different level of Jewish brainpower right now. I didn't even know this was possible.
Starting point is 00:33:51 You're trying to put the black people back on the boat? Chris, what the fuck is going on here? Everybody get back back. Want us to live on boats? We came in from Ellis Island. Now we're going to go back to the boats. Chris, we're not going to... What is Chris saying right now?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Yeah, what is Chris saying? You could build permanent barges and all this... You know, when they built everything in New York City, they thought water was actually unhealthy. So most places in the world, the coastline is the most valuable piece of property. In New York, it's the opposite. They put all the housing projects,
Starting point is 00:34:20 all the junk around the coast. So these are coastlines that no one's using for recreation or, you know, beautiful views, what have you. It's underutilized. You build all these barges along the East River, in the Bay, whatever, and you put fucking 30-story buildings on those.
Starting point is 00:34:38 There's got to be a reason that's not happening. I mean, Trump did that shit on the West Side Highway. Yeah, they had that COVID-Votein boat, right? They had the COVID-floating hospital. No, no, he just built a bunch of them. Landfill. They put landfill. World Trade Center was in the landfill.
Starting point is 00:34:50 They did landfill. Trump's shit is landfill. So basically just make Manhattan bigger. Do we need one of those rivers? Just like Adland. So you want people to actually live in the barges? Ew, environmentalist Chris is going out the window. See what the housing crisis will do?
Starting point is 00:35:05 See what a housing crisis? You really need the East River? Put them in the boats. This is fucking crazy. So you want them to live on the barges? We need a little separation from Jersey, Chris. We can't get too close. We need a little separate.
Starting point is 00:35:17 But Jersey is where it's at, baby. Where do you live again? I'm not telling nobody. Damn, I thought we're out of it. Jersey's where it's at, okay? They're building Netflix in Jersey. They're building Lionsgate in Jersey. Hey, I'm bullish on Jersey.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yes. Lionsgate is in Newark, New Jersey right now. Netflix is in my mouth. Mom, if it is, mom. Nah, nah, nah. Look it up, yo, mom mouth. It is. No.
Starting point is 00:35:45 If you was going to catch him, what would you say? Put your dick in my mouth. No. Put your dick in my mouth. But no, it is a, it's mammoth. What is it? M-O-N-M-M-O-M-O. You said Monmouth. You know, I can't pronounce shit.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Now, but... People get offended when I mispronounce their name. Like, do you listen to me? But you have a part of your brain that makes you pronounce something in the most... Look it up, man. Look it up, man. Look it up, Chris. You think I'm making this up, man.
Starting point is 00:36:11 It's my mouth. It's Monmouth. It is? Yeah. Hold on. But it's spelled my mouth. No, to you it is, because something's going in your mouth that way. And you like...
Starting point is 00:36:22 Look how it's spelled it. M-O-N-M-O-U-T-H. Do you know what mon means in French? No. My. My mouth. See? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Netflix is building a $1 billion studio complex at the former Fort Monmouth in Monmouth County, New Jersey. Which is an expected opening in 2020. Yo, what do you think about... It's funny when he says it, but it's just funny. What do you think about Spotify and the ringer doing their deal with Netflix? Oh, that's right. they're going to like put some of the 16 shows it's eight sports shows eight lifestyle shows yeah on Netflix what do you think about that and then I think they're taking all this stuff
Starting point is 00:36:59 off YouTube is this going to be clips on YouTube but you can go watch the full episodes on Netflix what do you think about that is a great deal for the ringer I think uh they don't lose much because I think the most of their their listens come from audio so it's not a huge sacrifice for them video-wise. I think doing it for a big video podcast, it'd be a lot trickier. But doing it for a big audio podcast, they're like, all right, we're getting a few thousand views on shows here on YouTube. It's no big sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:37:35 We could go to another place. And then I think they probably don't charge them too much. And then I think Netflix gets to test if people will listen or watch podcasts on their platform. Well, he already got podcasts on the platform. Which one? Netflix has some original. They don't have any like Bill Simmons or rewatchables, but they have like some like original
Starting point is 00:37:55 ones that they've done. Like what's the name of? They've done, um, what are you, um, what do you call like a reaction podcast to a reaction podcast to shows? Because didn't Crystal have one on? Or am I making that up? No, that wasn't on Netflix. Yeah, that was HBO.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And the other thing too, uh, you know, it's not global, it's just America. I think it's a good test. Like Netflix gets to probably for not that much money test if people will watch long form podcasts on their network. And if they will, then they go, why the fuck are we spending $200 million on a movie that people watch when we could spend a few million dollars on a podcast that they're going to watch every single week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:30 It's just a cheaper, it's a cheaper endeavor. A movie costs $200 million, bro. It's insane how much movies cost. Yes. The only, yeah, I'm with you 100%. But if I go to Netflix, I'm not going to Netflix to watch podcast per se, right? Like, YouTube is the place where you. you just get lost in all of that, that type of shit.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I wonder if the shows like The Ringer, I mean, shows like Bill Simmons podcast and rewatchables, can they keep the same level of production? That's my question. And be successful on Netflix. What do you mean? Because Bill Simmons is just like, go pull up one of his videos to watch the Ringer.
Starting point is 00:39:06 It's not even, it's this. It's this. Yeah, yeah, he got a set, but it's like. I feel like, yeah, I feel like this is not even, this is better. It's kind of high love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:39:17 You don't even know. You don't even got the book. Riverside. Like, pull up, and I love Bill, Slewled to Bill Simmons, but pull up like Bill Simmons, you know, podcast, just look how it looks.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I just, like, okay, see, this is an example, right? I'm trying to find one with his actual studio. I think it's like this one. I think, yeah. So look,
Starting point is 00:39:34 cool background, right? Real close up on him. You don't see what he could have on no underwear for all we know. Yeah, I've seen this. I had that poster, by the way. But it's like a lot of 70s and 80s, memorabilia, personalized for him.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And I like it. I like the background, but is this Netflix is what I'm saying? Or do you even have to do that now? Well, I think the bigger question isn't even like production value, and I think Netflix said this in their press release. Is this the end of late night talk shows as we've known it? That's... And this is
Starting point is 00:40:08 your late night talk. Yeah, it's been this way, though. Like, we've known that for a while. I think what they're testing to see is do people care about high production value? And the reality, and the reality is nobody goes on Netflix and they're like, this production value better be a lot fucking better than what I was watching before. They just go on Netflix like, what is going to distract me? And if they could do that with Bill, like if they could do that, again, I assume
Starting point is 00:40:32 Netflix's goal is not to just be TV and movies. They can't be anymore. Exactly. So I assume what their goal is they're doing live events, right? Imagine you could watch an NBA game on Netflix and then immediately after watch Bill talk about what happened in the NBA games. You have to. So I think this is there like dipping their toes in. I think it's genius for both parties because you're just taking eyes away from YouTube, which was free eyes for the most part. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Everybody already has Netflix. So it's going to be easy to convert people like, oh, hey, you want to keep watching? Just watch me on Netflix. I agree. Netflix is probably the easiest screaming platform to do this on it because Netflix is like, it's everywhere. That shit is on remote controls. Kill Tony did it first.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Oh, yeah. Kill Tony is a podcast. It's a live podcast. And Netflix, I think, ordered four of them a year, eight of them, 12 of them. I'm not exactly sure. Recently? It was on it. It's been happening regularly.
Starting point is 00:41:27 They made a deal with it. So it's like they're testing to see like can these things happen. Now, granted, that is like a live event show. There's production value to that. You're doing an arenas. It's a little bit different. But still, it's, I think they're testing. Can, will people watch long forward content, form content that's inexpensive to make?
Starting point is 00:41:46 and nothing would make them happier than finding out that we will be willing to watch two hours of a podcast that costs a fraction of what the newest expendables movie calls. And that's a franchise that you come back to every week. I thought during the writer's strike, man, when the writer's strike happened,
Starting point is 00:42:02 the most recent writer's strike, I was like, yo, the last time there was a writer's strike, it was the rise of reality television. Right? And so I thought, I was telling my agents and everything,
Starting point is 00:42:13 like, you know, with this writer's strike, it should be the rise of podcast. podcasting because we're doing this already. We're shooting our own content. All you got to do is take it, put the catalog up on your motherfucking platform, put our new episodes out every week and see what the fuck happens. It's not going to cost you anything.
Starting point is 00:42:29 You just cut us a motherfucking check. You know what I'm saying? We're already doing our own production and see what the fuck happens. So what is going to be interesting to watch? I don't know. I think there is a production floor, though. I don't think it has to be high. But, like, I think Bill Simmons in his studio is one thing versus.
Starting point is 00:42:46 is like Bill Simmons on Zoom at his desk on Zoom talking somebody else. I think if you were on Netflix, I got that, maybe that would feel a little. Or does it not matter? Let me tell you why I don't think it matters. Okay. I think we've gotten to a point
Starting point is 00:43:00 where the screen is the screen. Right. People are watching Netflix on their phone or iPad. Remember, it's not, we're old. Like, we watch Netflix on our TV screen at home. But even now, people are casting things on their TV screen. Once the screen is the screen, it doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:43:17 How many times do we see Brilliant Nated someone takes a screenshot posted they're watching it on their TV at home? Oh, all the time. I see that with Breakfast Club content, Burying Nita's content, everything. But you're sleeping on our production value. Our production values.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Come on, bro. We changed the game. Look at this. You were sitting in the fucking studio. Got books, bro. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. It's a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:43:37 But I will say this about Spotify, too. I mean, is it worth? Just hear me out. I'm not saying it's not. I just want to discuss. Is it worth it. worth taking your full videos off YouTube,
Starting point is 00:43:49 which is global, putting them on Netflix, which is just in the U.S. For the Ringer, yes, because they don't really get views on YouTube like that. For us, the bag would have to be bigger because we're looking, we're going, oh shit, a significant portion
Starting point is 00:44:05 of our audience is on what's it called? There's other shows, not just the Ringer, there's another one that's like mostly audio. It's a dissect I saw as part of the deal. So I think a music breakdown show. I bet even like the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Like I bet any of those type of pods like where it's like people can watch it on YouTube, sure, but the majority of people are listening to it. Those pods, I think that there's no sacrifice or there's minimal sacrifice for them to go to Netflix. I'm just surprised for Spotify because Spotify has been doing a push to get more video content and for like trying to convert YouTubers onto the... Oh, that bit stopped working. When they had their own video platform
Starting point is 00:44:50 and they was trying to get people to pay for behind the paywall, then they're not. No, they're not even behind the paywall. Now it's like, if you just have your phone open, then you see the video, but you can still close your phone and just listen as audience. And they've been trying to push that,
Starting point is 00:45:02 so I'm actually surprised they're moving away from that. I mean, it's hard to turn down Netflix, bro. That's true. You know what I'm saying? It's like it's hard to turn... The only other place that's probably harder to turn down than Netflix is maybe Apple. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Right. Apple would be cool, right? Like Apple would be a cool, a partner. I can't think of nobody else after that. Maybe Amazon? Yeah, I think Netflix is. Most people have Netflix. Because everybody got Netflix. Bro, Netflix is, like, that shit is on remote controls already, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:27 That's the thing. If it's there, it's there, and people will watch it. Yeah, the only thing that's on the remote is Netflix, Amazon, Prime, and YouTube. Disney's on remote now? Yeah. Oh, shit. All right, let's pay some bills, guys.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Okay. You got church announcements? I have mosque announcements. Talk to me, man. Talk to me, man. Converted to communism. Okay, okay. People are going to take you serious, watch.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Say again? People are going to take you serious. We don't have time for that. Yeah, I can't be taking serious. Yeah, we don't have time for people taking stuff like that. We just let people bicker on the internet. That's what we have fun. You really should be upset.
Starting point is 00:46:11 That's the best thing, bro. Stop engaging. Throw the fucking rock and hide your hand. Y'all are crazy. Y'all keep wanting this. Don't tell them what we do, bro. Don't tell them what we do. If you tell them what we do, then they might not react.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah, like, go, go, go, go. I mean, we're angry. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop talking about Rion. Are you back doing shows yet? Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm back getting up again.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I'm back getting up again. So that's going to be the next few months is really just kind of getting back in the clubs grinding and putting together another hour. Got you. Yeah. My church announcement, Friday I'll be in Columbia, South Carolina. I'll be home in the Metro. University of South Carolina homecoming.
Starting point is 00:47:00 My wife's alma mater. And I'm doing a book conversation, a moderating a conversation with Don Staley and Asia Wilson. You know, Don Staley, she put out a book, Uncommon Favor on my book in print, Black Privile was publishing earlier this year, been on the New York Times bestsellers list for weeks. And, you know, yeah, we're having a conversation about the book at the Colonial Life Arena this Friday at 4.30 p.m. and then right after that, they're having an exhibition game against Anderson, South Carolina. And yes, Asia Wilson will be joining us for that conversation.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Big Asia, greatest WNBA player ever, argue with your freaking mother, okay? I don't got time to be arguing with y'all about who the greatest WMBA player of all time. We know it's Asia Wilson, cut it the fuck out. Who would say otherwise? People who actually watch the sport. I watched the WNBA, though, but I mean, she's the best to be. Yeah, yeah. Who else is in the room? Maya Moore.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Oh, okay, yeah. Maya Moore. You know what I was thinking, too? I want to say this real quick. Lisa Leslie should be the WNBA Commission. Ooh. Because I saw Kathy. I know people who have had the issues with Kathy Engelbert.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I think her name is. She even got booed, you know, when the Aces won the championship and she had to present the trophies. Ooh, that's how you know, it's popping. Yeah, you know, because she made a comment that I think she denied that she even said that. I'm not sure. But I just think that what is this? NBA commissioner makes big admission about. That's Adam Silver, though.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I'm talking about the WNBA Commission. Her name is Kathy Engelberg. I just think Lisa Leslie would make a great commissioner for the WNBA, bro. Yeah, why? I just had that revelation another day because she's a not just a player, you know, a founding player of the WNB. and she actually knows the players. I think sometimes in those positions, you know, you need people who actually know what the league needs.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Has there ever been an ex-player who's the commissioner of a sports league? I don't think so. Look, man, I agree 100%. Can we move on? Shut. I don't know. I don't know how much longer I can pretend to give it. I don't give a fly a fuck who the commissioner of WMBA.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Yo, Lisa Ledger, I'm rooting for you. I don't give a fuck what show. Yo, get your money, Lisa. Okay, I want to see Lisa Lesley at the National NBA Commission. I'm not even here to create an argument for it. I'm just throwing it out there. Yeah, you just got to throw it out there, okay? Lisa Leslie should be the new WMBA commissioner.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Argue amongst yourself. You'll deal with it. You'll figure it's not qualified. Argue amongst yourselves. What else we got, Alex? What happened in pop culture this week, man? Rest of peace. Chris was angry.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Chris was angry right there. You see that? Why? Because you were taking, you were about to, you were about to take away one of the few positions for Jewish people in sports. We're pretty good.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Halasian. Commissioner, that's our only place. Shout out David Stern. Shout out. Adam Silver. Adam in? Adam in? I mean, Adam, Adam is.
Starting point is 00:50:15 at the helm during the most successful time in the history of the NBA, we might, you know what I mean? Like, you've got to give credit where credit is doing. Financially, these guys are making crazy money. Yeah, I guess. Is that his part? Is that because of him, though? Let's give him a little credit. He's an odd looking guy.
Starting point is 00:50:32 He's an odd looking guy. Crazy last name to be Jewish, bro. Is he Jewish? I didn't know he was Jewish. If he's not Jewish, I'd be very surprised. That was Chris that said that. I just want to clarify. And Chris is Jewish, okay?
Starting point is 00:50:50 We think, kind of. Huh? Kind of, though. A little bit, right? I don't know if. I don't know if Chris is. Oh, yeah. Do the Jews consider me Jewish?
Starting point is 00:50:59 Say again? Do the Jews consider me Jewish? Yeah, until they hear your views on Palestine. All right, but still. Yeah. Still a Jew, baby. Yeah, I don't know. Like, no one really knows that you look like.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Most people assume that they're- I look like a Jew. There's no question I look like. Yeah. What? Hey, I think. All right, so I live. You, son.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Son. What does this energy? Chris been on Lyme disease for the last six months. My lines is killing. He perked the fucking. I'm going to be honest with you, man. I don't know how I feel about this, Chris, because you've been ducking your Jewish hair.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. What happened? Oh, no, no, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Not at all. Not at all. Now he's coming out the comments. See, I only got to, I can give credit the guys like Duff. They've been reping his set. Son. The whole time. That's right.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Chris, you've been kind of, taking your glasses off your eyes, look cool. You know what I'm saying? That's the little, you know. I've had the Yarmulke home with Zoron walked in. Let's not get crazy. Let's not get crazy. Head banging. You see, look.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Let's not get crazy. Yeah, I went to a. bar mitzvah for the last year okay oh i have a black friend i was invited to no barbecue once what happened at the bar mitzs for grits so i parked my car okay and put the money in went inside put the yonelma on yeah and then halfway through i forgot to re you know plenish the meter so i ran out forgot to take the thing off i'm like hold on people are looking at me different here what's you see what i'm saying the energy i was like fuck You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:52:44 He took it off. See, that's what I'm saying, Chris. That's why we're questioning you. I don't rock it like, though. No, they thought she was taking money out of the parking meeting. Out of the meter. Look at Chris. He's looking at Chris like,
Starting point is 00:52:59 yo, does he got a magnet attack to that shit? What's he doing that? He got a corner on a stream? Oh. Oh my God. What else we got, Alex? See, Zorn changed to me, bro. Are you voting for Zoran?
Starting point is 00:53:19 I'm told you I'm from New York. We don't vote in the mayor election. Why are you fronting on Curtis, though, bro? So, I honestly. Curtis makes a lot of sense to me. I might have to vote for Curtis, bro. I might have to vote for Curtis. Curtis makes a lot of sense to me, but I just, I like honest people.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I might have to vote for Curtis, bro. You will get me every time just being honest, bro. I know. Honest? I have no problem with Don't Ramadani. I, um, you know how I get, man. When you overhyped something, I gotta be the opposite. Yo, I know.
Starting point is 00:53:50 And he's not even from here, I don't, so he wants to be a hipster. No, but I like Curtis, bro. I like Curtis. Curtis is fire. I just feel like, you know, I like the Romani. I like his messaging. I tell you that. But you know, like when I hear, like, Betty Hassan was like, oh, he's a generational talent.
Starting point is 00:54:10 I'm like, what are we talking about? Because Medi never said that about you, probably. No. Zoran Mamdani is both a once-in-a-generation political talent in terms of his communication skills, in terms of his policy platform, in terms of his charisma. He's once in a generation like Obama-esque.
Starting point is 00:54:23 No doubt about that. Even his enemies can see that. But at the same time, he's also benefited. He's a lucky candidate in that he has his opposition divided between three people, two of whom are clearly freaks. And I'm not talking about Curtis Slua. We talk about generational talent.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Who the generation of people? political talent to you? Barack Obama. Okay. Who's a generation of political talent do you? I don't even agree with that. I thought he was overhyped. Oh, he was.
Starting point is 00:54:47 The two of my lifetime, Clinton and Trump. Did no question Clinton? No question Clinton. No question Clinton. No question Clinton. No question Clinton? No question. No question.
Starting point is 00:54:58 But see, the only reason, I agree Trump on a curve and I tell you why. He's not a politician. Oh, so you got. He's not a crippling. You got higher standards for somebody. Everything Trump does he's supposed to do because of his background. You know what I'm saying? That's a good point. Like he's already a celebrity. He had all of that.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Now, Clinton was generational. I wasn't around for Reagan, but apparently he looked generational to me. Kennedy looked generational. I wasn't there, but he looked generational. I think Obama was generational. Obama was generational. Yeah, Chris, Obama was generational. Chris, you're bugging out of that way. Yeah, yeah. Obama is generational. You've been around too many black guys. And Mandani is early. But also he doesn't have, he can't run for president.
Starting point is 00:55:42 So I don't think he'll have as much of an impact just being from New York. Nah, that's not true. Like, everybody else, everybody else you named was presidents. Yeah, and Trump's from New York. You can be a few. When you got it, you got it. I'm saying, like, he can't be a generational talent because he'll never be able to run for president to get up there. No, I don't think that.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I don't think he's a generational talent just because I don't see that yet. Like, he's cool. I like his messaging. I think he's good. He's really good. Well, certainly, he's like a guy who played one year in college. Obama had him in the beginning, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Athleticism, maybe he'll translate. I remember listening to Barack Obama on Wendy Williams show when he was promoting the audacity of Hope and you were like, who is that? I never, you know, I'd never heard of him. You're like, who is that guy? I'm saying here in New York,
Starting point is 00:56:27 everybody's like, who's this Zoga? That's not true. Yes, everybody. That's not true. No, here in New York, people are, he is very good, but he is. speaking, and his political talent to me is not like the schmooze.
Starting point is 00:56:42 It's recognizing exactly what the problem that people have is and speaking to it. And that's what Trump did. That is, and that is what the other guys just can't do. And by the way, and it's not a tough problem to see if you just open your goddamn eyes. Yeah, shit is too expensive every fucking way. Why would Cuomo know that? You know what I mean? Cuomo had never had to worry about renting the last fucking 100 years.
Starting point is 00:57:03 It's also that he took a stand, let's call it, on Gaza. when none of the other That was a turn That was a game-changing moment Yeah Much as the debate I think that's when he He tapped into something
Starting point is 00:57:16 He tapped He tapped, and that was a line Do you tap into? More Trump energy Ooh America Furr America Furr New York Fur
Starting point is 00:57:26 New York Fur That's what it was Come on When somebody asked you You were in a mayor race And somebody asking you About a foreign country And you're like
Starting point is 00:57:35 What are we talking about? Like I'm you know what I'm saying? Why are you asking me? I'm about New York. That's like, oh, yeah. All that messaging works. The messaging of affordability, the messaging of you first. Come on, guys.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Are you acting like you never tricked the girl before? You're the only one. You're by number one. Hey, take some of this money, fool. This market. Just mark it now. I'm just saying you never finessed a girl. You buy a number one.
Starting point is 00:58:05 He's doubling down. What? Okay, whatever? You never tricked off. Okay, tricked off on a girl. You're my number one. You're my number one here. Go buy you something nice, boo.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Get your nails done. Y'all complicate this politics thing, bro. Yeah. I know. Go fix that yeast infection. Y'all want to know this truth to the matter that nobody ever wants to admit? What's that? The best politicians are whole.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Name them. What? Was JFK not considered the ladies man? Oh. They're out there. They're not considered the lady, man. Because they know how to be liked. Was Trump not out here knocking him down?
Starting point is 00:58:43 Yo, he was knocking them down, bro. That's a fact. And guess what? If you talk to the American people. Yo, no, he got a point. He got a point. You will get the people on your side of it. So you think they're all love bombing.
Starting point is 00:58:59 That's all. It's love bombing. That's all politics is. 100%. One big love bomber. That's it. Duran's love bombing everybody right now. And it's working because he's telling us what we want to hear.
Starting point is 00:59:10 The rent is too damn high. When rent is too damn high got Obama's, it almost works. And guess what? When he gets in the office and can't get nothing done, he's going to blame it on your ex. Who is? Donald Trump. Donald Trump is going to come through. Oh, you're with this boo now?
Starting point is 00:59:27 Now he wants you back. Now he's going to be interfering in the geopolitics. He already said it, by the way. He said it yesterday. He literally was like, you know, listen, Curtis can't win. you know, I'm paraphrasing, and you can look it up, but he was like, basically Zoran's going to win, and he was like, but remember, they got to go through the White House. And he was like, maybe not other White House, but they got to go through this White House.
Starting point is 00:59:47 A new poll shows that if Curtis Sliwa dropped out of the New York mayoral race, then Andrew Cuomo would only trail Monde by four points. Would you call Curtis Sliwa to drop out of the race so that can happen? Well, I looked at the polls and looks like we're going to have a communist as the man. of New York, it'll be very interesting. But here's the good news. He's got to go through the White House. Everything goes through the White House.
Starting point is 01:00:12 At least this White House it does. And we'll have to see what happens. That's letting you know. Ice agents ran down on Canal Street yesterday. Yeah, that shit was great. When did you ever see? Ice agents ran down on Canal Street, bro. I've been waiting for that.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I'm not going to lie. Bro, Canal Street was an open air. Force One bizarre. It was crazy. That is the one place I'm on my. Canal Street was crazy. It's not like the little shops where you're going to buy the fake bags.
Starting point is 01:00:42 The whole sidewalk had turned into an open-air bizarre. I thought it was legal. No, they're selling Fugazi shit. That's why when you do things out in the open like that, it's also like a fascinating study if you've watched it for the last 10 years because that was that fake handbag and watches was completely controlled by the Chinese.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And then the Sudanese or somebody's food in. West Africans or I don't know where it. Yeah. Like. No, I think it's still controlled by the Asians. They just got them selling it? Yeah. Nah.
Starting point is 01:01:10 They're taking all the risk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's China still shipping all of that in. Click on that CNN article, Chris. What is I say? Trump says he'll speak to Zoran Mondania if he wins New York City mail race. This was all watching you. That was the same combo.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Yeah. It was, right? Yeah. Listen to this gangster shit, man. See his momdani if he wins? Yeah, I'll speak to him. Did you say? I think I have a nomination to speak to him.
Starting point is 01:01:32 But, look, I love New York. I've always loved New York. just can't believe a thing like this is happening. With the communist in charge, look, you just go back a thousand years. I mean, it's been done many times, a thousand years. It's never worked once, so it's not going to work down. Is the Democrat Party now more Zoran Mondani's party than it is even leader Schumer's or leader? That is true.
Starting point is 01:01:55 The Democrat Party, the people? Not the politics. The people? No. Son, you got to get out New York. No. You got to get in New York. Just as leaderless as they was six months ago.
Starting point is 01:02:07 No, the reason they're leaderless is because they don't have a galvanizing force for their old school rhetoric. The new young kids, they're about this socialist stuff. And you know who's leading that charge? Bernie. Bernie. AOC. AOC. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Mondani, I don't even think he's a close third. He's fruit off that tree, though. He's definitely fruit off that tree. A hundred percent. But it's Bernie and AOC. That's Chris. That's Chris's shit. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:02:34 And Bernie, yo, bro. Bernie. And in communism. Did you say? You said, you said, Oe-Ve-Communism? O'I-Ve. I love it. What the fuck is that?
Starting point is 01:02:41 Sterec. O'I-Ve is like a... Asian shit? No, wait. That's soy-veh. Let's pay some bills and do some asking idiots. Listen, man, let's do some asking idiots, man. What we got?
Starting point is 01:03:09 I don't want nobody to think I don't give a fuck about Zoran Juan Dian either. I just, I did like Zornan when he came to Breakfast Club, but Curtis interview was very entertaining, but y'all need to have Curtis on Flagra. Listen, this is the problem. We enjoy entertaining people, and our entire identity is not politics, but a lot of people, their entire identity is politics.
Starting point is 01:03:30 So they get very sensitive around anything political, unless it's 100% agreeing with them. So I hear where you're coming from, and I hear your hesitation, but I'm telling you, it's that wrench it, man. People are fucking struggling. Affordability.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I'm with you. Samson, KT., says, how did you guys navigate the most confusing phases of your life, your early 20s as young men? I don't think that was the most confusing
Starting point is 01:03:54 phase in my life. That's not even close. Nah, that ain't fucking my 20s. I think teens are more confusing. 20s is just like hustle grind, have fun, hustle grind, have fun. And then when you become an adult
Starting point is 01:04:07 and you have family. That's it. Whatever age you become an adult and you got a family, you know what I'm saying? If you get married at 25 and you got a couple of kids, that's when shit gets tricky. That's not confusing. That's a good point. You know, it's the least confusing because your job is right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Kids, I'm not talking about marriage. I'm talking about kids. Yeah, but life is no longer yours. So when something is going on with your child that you can't, I guess, control or fixed in that moment, you really be sitting there like, what the fuck am I supposed to do? You know what I mean? It sucks.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Yeah, I think once you have wife and kids, that's when it gets confusing. Other than that, if you just out here LaVita Loka by yourself, what is there to be confused by? Other than figuring out what you want to do with your life? I don't know. Chilmanga 24-7 says,
Starting point is 01:05:02 if you could erase one human emotion from existence, which would make life better to erase. Ooh. That's a good-ass question, chill-invie. Wow. Yeah, envy's a good one. Everything falls under envy. Envy, well, envy.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Envy is a good one. Wow. I was going to say anger, but anger can be motivated by. By envy, yeah. Yeah. I mean, and also anger sometimes is good. Like, it's good to be angry about things. Like, you should be angry when bad things happen in the world,
Starting point is 01:05:34 and you want to change that. but just being envious just because someone got something more than you or just because you're not getting an opportunity to someone else's getting, yeah, get that, get that out of here, bro. I just don't like irrational anger. Like when you hear the stories of like, um, when you get a story. Smells like my size. Tight, squishy and most likely well lubricated because of the beans we had for dinner. You're quite bold.
Starting point is 01:06:06 First day in prison and you're ready for. farting. You're singing to me, boy? I always knew that you coming here was a blessing in these guys. Why are you going to? By the time I'm done, those farts won't sound the same. Did you really think they call me power drill for nothing? Don't worry. I got your back. Literally. The other day, it was a mom who held a door for a woman at PetSmart. Now, the mom is with her 20-year-old daughter. She holds the door for a woman at PetSmart. The woman, walks in PetSmart, the mom gets mad that the woman didn't say thank you. So the mom goes to the woman is like, yo, you didn't say thank you, whatever, whatever. They get to arguing, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:06:48 So the lady follows her out, follows the mom out the store. They get to fighting, or no, follows her to the next door. They end up fighting somehow and then the woman that she held the door for ends up pulling out a gun and killing them up. Oh, really? Wow. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just irrational anger. Like, what does that come from? That's not envy. Like, what is that? I mean, not in that particular.
Starting point is 01:07:13 She might not be enviously the other woman, but there's something missing in her life that's probably... Yeah, it's like there are these entitled people that think I don't have enough. I'm just here to serve them. Right. Yeah, I don't exist. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:24 All right about the kid. There was a kid, I was ready to start out of the day. The kid got fired from, uh... Where did he get fired from? It was a fast food restaurant. It's slipping my mind right now. But he gets fired from the fast food restaurant. confronts the manager the next day
Starting point is 01:07:38 ends up shooting the killer the manager 21 year old kid like you can't love working at a fast food restaurant that fucking much bro nah you know what I'm saying like you gotta know at 21 years old getting fired from one fast food restaurant you can probably get a job
Starting point is 01:07:54 at another fast food restaurant bro you don't come back the next day and the manager was like 32 years old oh yeah you understand what I'm saying getting killed by a 21 year old kid who's mad because he lost his job like I don't know so I don't know It's some type of irrational anger I would probably want to get rid of.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I felt that way. If you guys saw the clip of the guy going to the protest this weekend, I think it was in Denver. Hilarious. It was funny, but I was just like, God, these people are all so fucking angry, man. You know, like... I don't know what got him so mad. Well, he was looking for the smoke. I mean, him and his guy...
Starting point is 01:08:25 But nobody even touched him. Like, what did the guy say to him? No, the guy ripped his glasses off. Oh, I must have saw two different videos, then. Oh, I thought he ripped his hat off. That was glasses. I didn't see him get touched. We talked about the same video?
Starting point is 01:08:36 Yeah, when he called them maggots. Yeah. I didn't see him get touched at all. I just saw him take off after the kid. Yeah, because the kid, I think, yanked something off of him. That's why he took off. Really? And if they're prescription, I understand.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Oh, I can't see shit then. The video I had did not have that. I just saw the guy walking down the street. Yeah. He was yelling, maggot, cursing him out, saying Trump forever or something like that. Yeah. And then he just, I thought he just took off running after the kid. Now, somebody did trip him up.
Starting point is 01:09:01 He fell the first time on his own. And then he went running again. somebody tripped them up and you kept hearing people say, trip them, trip them. The kid ripped his glasses off. Really? Yeah, don't touch people. Oh, see, that's different. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Okay. All right, next one. What else we got? What else we got? What else we got? Mr. Derek Jr. said, what's one thing your kids taught you this year? Oh, my God. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:09:22 The same thing they teach me every fucking year. Patience. Humility. Really? Oh, yeah. They will humble you. Them kids will humble you, man. Bring it down.
Starting point is 01:09:32 I ain't got told you guys this. when I was showering and my daughter walked in the bathroom. She looks at me, points in my dick and goes, Mama. I was like, who is this more insulting to? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:48 So, yeah, it's just humility every single day. That's hilarious, bro. Yeah. What about you? No, I didn't want to say. Now I've got to get this thought out of my mind. Yo.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Yeah. That's true. Like, what the fuck? That's crazy. Like, what the fuck is going on, man? No, I'm the only person who's thinking that shit? Yeah. What's the fucking crazy?
Starting point is 01:10:31 I was thinking it. There's still one more, man. What else we got? Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what? You might be right. What's his name? Mottie underscore Kadana says,
Starting point is 01:10:49 man titty's the most embarrassing thing to have is a man. Yep. Wow. I'd say for white guys with bald being worse. Nah. Man tities. Man tities. You know how you know man tities are so embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:11:07 They wear a shirt in the pool. But you can see right through it, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, God damn. And by the way, if you just took your shirt off, we wouldn't give a fuck. Yeah. You know how much man teetis be on the beach? Nobody's thinking about that.
Starting point is 01:11:20 You know what I mean? Just take your shirt off. The fact you keep your shirt on, let's just know you insecure. I know somebody, I'm going to tell you something, man. I have bad posture because I used to be chubby. And so I wear big shirts and walk like that. So that way the shirt would kind of like fall and now. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:11:35 And now I got a hunchback. Oh. Yeah. I don't know why I say. What's so funny, bunk in a lot. But I walk around with his nose held high. I'm walking in the room. That was when I was a kid now.
Starting point is 01:11:55 A good woman in the room. Yeah, so beautiful. Listen, Luke Duval, man. You're evil. You're evil person. Punished somebody one time, bro. For what? wearing a shirt is a bitch I mean
Starting point is 01:12:10 because Duval is really like a little kid you know how a little kid will walk up to you yeah and just say some shit like yeah yeah big nose you know yeah yeah oh what's wrong with your teeth like some shit like that yeah yeah well we said walt swimming up to the guy in the ocean he's like you know Duval does like this we about to say something stupid you go why you got your shirt on it Why you got your shirt on in the ocean, right? That's the first. Then the second one is,
Starting point is 01:12:41 I bet you won't take your shirt off in the ocean. You're like, man, leave him alone, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, explaining why you have it on is just, that's what I'm saying. Ask the most hilarious. And the genius of it is, it's no need to call out the man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just add.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Just bring attention to. The fact that this guy got his shirt on in the pool. Why are you wearing clothing in the water? Oh, man. But by the way, the answer was even worse than this. What is that? What is that? The answer was, because I used to be fat and shit, I still got to roll.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Oh, no. See, come on. Y'all evil. Both of y'all. Like, man, leave people to fuck alone, yo. Don't you dare. I know. Don't you stare.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Don't you play. both sides. Don't you play. That's what I told of all that moment. You'll leave people to fuck alone, yo. You can't leave people alone. Because it's funny. Why do y'all want people to get left alone when it's funny?
Starting point is 01:13:44 Would you rather to laugh or not, bro? I would rather them laugh. I would rather to laugh, man. I hope you laugh this week. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots
Starting point is 01:13:59 who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the Brear Needies podcast. Thank you for listening.

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