The Brilliant Idiots - Stage Five Clingers (Feat. Jason Lee, Lulu, Lala, and Wax)

Episode Date: February 6, 2020

This week with Andrew out of town Jason Lee of Hollywood Unlocked, Radio personalities Lulu and Lala, and Wax join Charlamane Tha God and discuss relationships, Jay-z Beyonce not standing for national anthem, Gervonta Davis, Jason talks about his new book and more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To the guy who said, I'll marinate the chicken, then forgot. Hi, you're a Safeway PA announcer here. We've got pre-marinated meat. So all that's left is pretending you made it yourself. It's so stupid. It's positively brilliant. Shal to make the guy here, brilliant idiotic podcast. Andrew is not here this week.

I don't know where Andrew at. Where is Andrew this week? Nobody knows? He's in L.A. doing something. Angela, I need you to stand over here because I guess. What about guessing? He thinks your eye can. candy and I like my guest to be inspired.

Okay? Angelo. Jason Lee is here. Yes. Lulu and Lala here. What's up? Thanks for having us. I don't like to say from K to you.

What do you like to say? I don't like to say from KTU. What do you like to say? Lulu and Lala. You can say Lulu and La La. What is K to you? The radio station that they work for here in New York City. Yeah.

They're part of the eye heart mafia. Okay. Are you guys reckless or what's the show? We're a little bit of both. Yeah. We do the night show, so. You can be a little reckless thing. Yeah, of course.

What's the most reckless thing y'all've ever done? on radio you think I want to get in trouble We got in trouble because we talked about Trump's hair And so that went up the corporate ladder Yeah I'm not even joking

On KTU? Yeah Well you got in trouble at eye heart Well we were brought to our attention That there were a couple of people listeners that didn't like The fact that we made fun of his hair And so we were told to

Tone down and maybe not talk about politics So you should have called a Cheeto I should have I've never gotten that phone call. You didn't either. Well, you're showing me, so it's a little different. It's a little different. I'm glad you know, God damn it.

Hey, I'm glad that y'all are here, though, because Jason... We love Jason. Jason is trying to... Jason has a book out first and foremost. Where's the book? You don't have a copy of the book? Can somebody give me the book? There you go.

He has a book out called God must have forgotten about me. Okay? It's a great read. Jason has been through a lot of things in his life. We can get through all of that. But first and foremost, what do you do when you want to bag somebody, right? Like,

like Lulu and Lala, when y'all want to bag a guy? Yeah. How do y'all make it known? How do y'all fish? Well, why don't you tell them the story of how you bagged your boyfriend, Nala? I didn't.

Yes, you did. Totally want fishing. And he grabbed. And now you're together. Okay, you know, the chairman? It all went down in the DM. Yeah. He went down in the DM.

Taylor, get out the way of Mike let Wax. Come in. I met him at an event. We were doing Fiesta Latina. And he was a background vocalist for an audience. artist and I just thought he was cute and he asked for a picture and then I found him on Instagram and she DMed him.

No. I didn't DM him. No, you're such a lie. I just liked his a few pictures that enough for him to be like, oh, who's this? Yeah. And then he reached out. Have you ever tried to DM anybody, Jay? I DM every day.

See so? It's quite common actually. I mean, I DMed Angelo. He knows. Oh. Oh. Oh. Let's get to it.

That's what I was on. Angelou. That's what I was on. I was on my way to a date and saw Angelou. I was like, fuck. You know what I mean? He got a girl, but she likes me, so we could all have fun. Yeah, I saw Angelo.

He had, you know, what he did. He did that sneaky shit people do. What do you do? He posted a video and he tagged me. I didn't even know what's him, though. But here's my messy ass. I slid in the DM saying, what's his Instagram? I'm thinking it was Taylor.

And then he was like, ha, ha, ha, how are you funny? So I go to the page. I'm like, oh, it's that nigga. Yeah, so he helped me out. But, yeah, I slide in DMs all day long. The little bait? Yeah, Wax, thanks for, like, introducing me to him. No, no, all of you.

Yeah, then, you know, I didn't really know how to catch the vibe. So I told my staff, I was texting him on the low, I was like, you know, yo, get the camera guys number because we need camera guys in New York, you know? And I believe in, like, helping everybody make money. Like, just make your money. You know, we can go on a date on the side. So they was plotting on getting the number. And then they told me he was a twerk guy.

I'm like, oh, shit, it's lining up. I didn't know he was a twerk guy until this week. And he gave himself his own name It's called Twirc God Unlocked. He named himself. Wow. Listen. So you branded already.

Angelo is in the family right now. Yes. I made him Man Crush Monday every day on my Instagram right now. Wow. I move quick. It must feel special. I'm going quick. So, Angela, you buy?

Yeah, biracial. That's it. Well, I mean, we got to start somewhere. I don't believe that. I didn't ask you to come on the mic now. You're back on it. That's your problem. You want to rush to every mic except for Jason.

It's still early. I'm coming back tomorrow. Now, is it easy to turn guys out? Well, I don't know about turning out. I just think that every man wants to, uh, every man. Every man. Well, y'all got it. Y'all got it hard.

Not every man because he waxes over there and he's getting ready to say, not me. You know, you got the ass thing downstairs. I don't know what the fuck's going on with that. But, uh, I think every man has had an idea or at least try to conceptualize it in their mind. So once the seed has been planted, I think you just got to pour water on it. That's a trick question, though. That's a trick thought.

I don't know what that's a question. That's a trick of. ideology you have. Not in Europe. Meaning that yes, as a man we've drove around and like why would a man want to get head from another man? Right.

I didn't say that. No, no, I just said that. Yo, this little bus mentality that's been going on the last week. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. You've thought about it. That's why when I talked to one of my homies, I want to know, like, okay, so have you been with a woman? And if they say yes, and you've been

You know what I mean, so I want to know the differences. I mean, that's, that's me being curious about trying it, though. Yeah, what is the difference? I'm curious to know. Well, I never liked hot sauce. But, like, one day I got a piece of chicken, they're like, yo, try some hot sauce. I tried it. Now, every time I get chicken, I got to have a hot sauce.

I mean, I don't know. I just had to come back to meat in your mouth, right? Yeah, basically. Yeah, I just think, you know what I mean? I don't know. I've seen more guys, and there's a new epidemic now, right? Like, men love transsexuals. And I'm not mad at that.

Like, I'm not mad. I just think the playing field has gotten a little uneven now because these men love transsexuals because somewhere in their mind is just like, okay, I'm just not going to look at the balls. I know they got balls, but fuck it. It's men that love transsexuals that love transsexuals. What?

Men that love transsexuals. Man their wife is sitting at home taking care of their kids waiting on here while he went to transsexuals. Men that love transsexuals. He's trying to like all men love transsexuals. Oh, I get what you're saying. Well, I don't know what it's going on, but something's happening in America.

They've always been loving them, though. Really? They ain't just now start coming around. They've been out there. Oh, that's true. That's true. Yeah, but a drag queen and a transsexual are two different things. Yeah.

I mean, that's just a love. Yeah, like RuPaul is a drag queen. Yeah. But T.S. Madison is a transsexual. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Flame and Roe. You know, Flame and Roe's different type of transsexual. Hilarious.

That's my guy. That's not your guy. Right. He's she weed is what he calls. He's controversial, though, you know. Does that make y'all feel like, you know? Uncomfortable? No, not uncomfortable.

Just picking the slip. Damn, just tell on yourself, huh? No, not at all. I haven't commented much. I'm just listening because I didn't, I don't think you make that comment where it's like all men now are more attracted to transsexuals. I don't, how do you come up with that conclusion? Well, see, in your mind as a woman and as women, you don't think about your man.

In your mind, you do not wake up thinking about your man looking at another man. So you're watching every other bitch in the room. But a lot of women whose eye is on the other female, has really taken her eye off of what he's really doing. I mean, there's a lot of men that I meet and it's scary too

because it's like, I find out they got a girl later. Like, Angelo, I found out he has a whole girl. So he floated with you first and then told him to get a girl. He's definitely not like. Was he flirting with you or did you

make an assumption? Angelo's in love, but he don't know. So it's like a process. So it's like, okay, Angela, let's take a trip. Okay. You know, like let's go somewhere tropical.

Like we ain't even got to like... Are you a trick, Jason? Oh, hell yeah, I'm a kid. Crazy? He said he's going to take him shopping. When Angelo comes to work one day, y'all going to look at him. Y'all going to know when it happened. So you're like, Jason took you something.

Got him. Absolutely. But you're supposed to take care of the person you went. I think. It ain't tricking if the person is worth it. Right. Damn right. Green eyes.

Shit. What's the most you ever spent on a man? What's your rent like? It just depends. I mean, like, I've had relationships where my partner didn't work for three years. So, and it had money, you know? Well, what's the most you've spent on a woman? I mean, my wife?

Yeah. I mean, it's endless. I don't know what that bill is. Charlemann's wife walked in the room looking rich at Tiffany Hattish Party. Like, you guys look great together. So you either take care of each other. I don't know what's going on, but she looked great. She is.

Yeah. Is there a certain amount of money that you should spend on your partner? A certain amount of money. Like when you're dating. Not like a wife or whatever. I think everybody should act their wage. And I think that you should do things that you want to do for that person. I don't think that you should spend on that person.

because you're trying to make them like you anymore or make them like you more or anything like that, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think if you got it. What you mean? If you don't want them to like it, you want them to be happy. No, no, I said like that you don't want them to like you.

What did I say? You don't want them to like you more. You know what I mean? For that. Yeah, you're not doing it just because you think that's going to make them like you more. You're doing it because you really want to do it for them. This happened to me other day.

I got to tell the story. I ain't going to put the person's the name, I mean, I put my friend Rob Smith on blast on another show who's a ho. But this. where I'm not. Okay, so I come to New York, all the Dominicans out here know that I'm weak for Dominicans. Like, it's literally my weakness. And I always tell my

team, like, there's going to be two ways people are going to rob. You like the gauge old button. What do you mean? Love Dominican. Oh, shit. You caught me. I didn't know where we was going on. What? What? Joe, you're gay? Like low-key and so I was going to be DM. So the other day, when I left your show, I went on a date. Right? So

we're on a day, we're chilling. And they're like, yo, I just want to come back to the house. I'm like, all right, but I'm really trying to get to know you. Like, I don't want to ruin it because we go back to the house. I already know what I'm going to do. I don't want to do that. So I'm trying to be a gentleman for the first time my life, right? Finally we get back to the house. So my team is at the house. So my team is kind of walking around. So they're like, let's go in the room. I don't want to go in the room because going in the room is personal. You know, plus you got to leave your phone out here and, you know, other issues. But so we go in the room, soon as you get in the room,

they go, yo, I'm going to Thailand for my birthday. There's this hotel I really want to stay at. You know, it's like $780 and blah, blah, blah. And I'm thinking we just started hanging out like the other day. So yeah, I do believe in tricking, but if you, like, you're just trying to get with me to get some money, like, you got me fucked up. Yeah. You got to know the difference, though. That's most relationships, yeah. You all get tricked on, right?

Lulu, la la. Of course. Yeah, what was the question again? Y'all get tricked on, right? Yeah. Hey, look at them. Of course. They're great. You guys look great. Thank you. You would be a fool not to get tricked on. What's the most y'all got in?

Actually, like, I've never taken it. I know that sounds like, oh, my God. But I've been offered trips to Europe, like, through baseball players and football players, and I'm just like, nah. Because something is expected, and I'm not going to, I'm not that type of person.

I'm not going to go on a trip with a baseball player that I just met. We're cool, but it's still that, there's that awkwardness. Because I'm going to play myself in this situation. We need to hang out. Y'all got it fucked up. Yeah, because I think that, and I'm not saying that y'all are wrong, I'm just saying that when you're dealing with somebody like a baseball player, he's a multimillionaire, right?

Yeah. That's just the way he moves. That's just like saying let's go to the movies. So saying, like, let's go to the Caribbean or whatever, let's go to Europe. Sometimes they're involved with so much drama with other women. I don't want to be involved in that. I don't need drama.

Don't go if y'all ain't trying to give nothing up. Don't go with that. That's why. Like, there's been lots of offers. And I'm tempted, but I'm like, no, I'm not going to do that. You got to tell them. You got to be like, look, you know, if I go with you, don't expect me to have sex with you.

I hope that's not why you're asking me to go. That happened. I said that to one of them. And it was like, unfortunately. follow him, blah, blah. It wasn't in it. Yeah. So I'm like, see? But see, every man wants to believe there's a chance they can get it. So you've got to finesse in a way where he believes he's going to get it.

Just don't say that. But you ain't saying he's going to get it. But his mind, let him believe he's going to get it. My friend right here is Sarah, I'm going to throw under the bus. She got out of a seven-year relationship or something like that. And I said, you have to have a whole face. Like, you have to be a hoe for one year. You got to just walk in the club with me and walk up to somebody and say, I want to fuck you

tonight. Did you do that? No. She's approved. Like, I'm like, what? I guess I'm approved too because I'm in that same ball. I'm on that same ball. Let me tell you. Y'all could finesse so major right now. Like, I'm going to teach y'all how to finesse. Please, please. By the way, it don't take much for a guy to think he can have sex with a girl. High works. You know what I mean?

Why do you guys think like that? I don't think like that. She said, I don't even boom. I'm sleeping with her tonight. Yes, every guy thinks they're full. Don't even say, don't even say, if I put nice or hard eyes or whatever. If you say thank you, oh, she wanted to give me something. Why do you think like that,

though? I don't understand. Well, not now because you're in a relationship so you don't do that anymore, right? I would never do that now. a black man don't cheat. some women show me some of wax DMs.

wax got some corny-ass DMs he'd be sending, yo. What do you say? Probation officer vibes In places he not even at. You know what I'm saying? He's not even there. Tell me something real. Tell me something funnier than that.

That's not nothing. If you're not in Canada, but you're sending a girl in can't, and sending her a message, talking about you can't tell nobody you in town, you don't even live in. Who knows anything? So I have a question. All right. So let's say a girl answers back your DM, right?

What is it that she has to say that? She has to say that, oh, this one's going to fall. I know I got her on the bag already. Like, are there key things? Like, oh, she replied to this. That's my in. Well, what is it? That makes you guys think that, okay, I got her.

Anything. Or she's going to definitely. You're finding back to anything at all. I think she won't get me some. That is crazy. Or you recall yourself to twer God a locks. DMs is just a fucking another thing like Tinder. It's just like a day.

No, it's not. It kind of is, though. Instagram is kind of like a Tinder, one of those. Sit. Yes. No, we're in 2020. That's the way people communicate. Oh, okay.

I have a question. Do you think that if you give your Instagram, it's like giving out your number? No. It's the safer way of our... Absolutely. Well, yeah. It's different for Charlemagne.

You know Charlemagne's Instagram, but if you're not Charlemagne and you be like, yo, I can't give you my number, but hit me up on Instagram. You just did the same thing. Exactly. 1,000%. Give your email that means like,

ah, danger. Hit my manager. Well, doesn't the context of I can't give you my number, let you know that maybe this person isn't interested. He's kind of just throwing you the gram just to give it to you. No way. I don't think so. I don't think so.

I don't think so. I got a man, but I smash you. Yeah. That's what girl's telling you. But I gave you my Instagram, I got a man, but I smash you. But if I give you my number, it's like, I want to be any relationship with you. Listen, I don't speak singles. Well, I just came out of single, so I still know it a little bit.

You just came out of single? Just came out of single. Wax and love. Matter of fact, you didn't get wax. Wax love Dominican women. Really? Listen, back in, I told him that when I did my show, I said, bro, you was me back in the day. Right, but I was confused of what that means.

It's like how far back, like, you got to read my book because there's been different phases. And when people say you remind me, I'm like, you suck dick too? What's happening? I don't know what's happening. The way you say he was moving, I'm like, okay, yeah, that's the way I used to move. Yeah, no. There's definitely a lot of similarities between me and straight men. and I'm an aggressive pursuer.

You're still a man. Yeah, if I want something. Yeah, but some, you know, like some of the more daintier, you know, guys who just want to, like, skip through life and be caught, I ain't that guy. Like, I'm going out to fish. I'm on Tinder. I don't even meet nobody on Tinder. I'm just on there because it's fucking fun. Have you ever turned a straight guy gay?

What is a straight guy? I don't know what that means. I think we need to get rid of that term. I think it's problematic. I mean, as gay people are crooked. No. I mean, I could see what you say. A guy that likes women.

Have you ever, like, made them the other way? All my guys love women. I think every man should love women. I love them from a distance. They love them in a more personal, affectionate way. Boy, I'm trying to tell you right now, have you made a man that only likes vagina like the butthole? I mean, have I had a guy who says he only loves women,

say I was his first guy of many times? But I don't know that that was true. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Hopefully I was, but if I wasn't, it doesn't matter to me. Now, could y'all be with a guy who is open with you about his love for other men? The thing is, I'm very selfish. So, and, like, I don't think I could see myself ever having, like, a threesome with a guy or with another girl because, like, you're mine. I don't like to share it.

Why do we do this whole possessive thing where mine is my, like, you both are twins. Y'all should be living, y'all should be up and down, like, you're coming home with us. You really don't know. I was a twin. That's a stereotype. That's what it should be. The last thing I want to see is my sister naked. I see her all the time.

The last thing I want to see is how she is sexually. Like, I do not ever want to know that. You guys look exactly the same. You already know the answer to those questions. No. By the way, this is the first time I have not seen y'all dressed it like in forever. So don't act like you. Well, not, first of all, naked, we do not look the same.

Maybe similar, but. Similar, but not the same. And I'm very, what's the word? Territorial. Like, if I'm with you, I'm like, no other bitch is going to be around. No, nobody else. I'm Cuban.

Cuban, Salvadorian. So that's a Spanish thing, right? Yeah. Just very aggressive. I appreciate when I see a good-looking girl. I'm like, wow, she has a nice ass. Her boobs are amazing. I love her hair.

But do I see myself ever being with a woman sexually? No. But you're in love right now? You're in a relationship now? Yes. So you're in love? Yes. And he loves you.

Yes. And you would do anything to make him happy as your man. Yeah. Okay, so you're out. You see a girl. You say, yo, she has a nice ass. And he goes, she does. That doesn't make me mad because I'm the one that pointed out.

That was an invitation for you to say, baby, if you want to bring her home, cool. But I really thought, the reason why there's so many broken relationships in America is that we're so possessive. Like, you belong to me. No, your phone belongs to you. Like, your bottle of water, it belongs to you.

But, like, your partner, you should be like, yo, let's think a little bit more European. But then why be in a relationship, though? Then what's the point? Because you can build an empire off of being a really good partner. being in a relationship is more than just possessing a person, I think. It's more than saying you belong to me. No, like our house belongs to us.

But as long as we don't fuck up our shit, we should be able to like, you know. No, your house does not belong to us because then all the other girls are going to be wanting part of that house. Y'all talking about girls. What if your man says he got a nice asses coming home? How do you react to that? I don't know. I guess it hasn't happened yet.

But I don't know. I don't know. Okay, cool. Yeah, he does have like that. I don't think your instincts would say you're jealous of another man. No. Instincts would be I'm jealous of another woman

But I don't think Well, when I was in a relationship Like he had a best friend And it bothered the shit out of me Because it was like Yo, why are you A best guy friend? Yeah, like his best friend

So I'm like Yeah, like he would give him more priority No What Jason Lee? But they was fucking Because you're a woman You're smarter than everybody in the room My conclusion was like

There's got to be something going on That he doesn't want to admit Because it just doesn't make sense to me. Like, why are you so like, with this person? You were the other woman. Chapter 6 in my book, I think it's called Love on the Lower, or something like that, boy, read that chapter. You're going to

go through your roller decks and be like, that nigga was gay, that nigga was gay. Five, chapter five, oh, yeah. Why you say, why you love on the low? I mean, I read it, so I know it's... Oh, no, because I was like, on the low. I had a girlfriend and he, my... I met him at this guy that I heard was gay, but he didn't know I was gay, so I met him, and I lured him into a relationship, and he was

with a woman, and, like, we were in a down-low relationship for, like, years. I like how you looked at Angelo's side eye when you said that Gave me a little peak as you were saying that Angelo's flight is already booked We're going to go ahead Bring your camera, Angela I'm listening to him.

No, leave your camera. Your girl's upset about this? Okay. Is she, what she said? He said his girl likes me, so I'm, hey. Oh, so on a low he told you that his girl likes you. No, he just was like, yo, my girl's a fan. I'm like, okay, cool, like, let's all hang out.

Like, I like meeting people that support me, you know? I mean, I'm all about building the brand. How do you finesse that, though? Pinesse what? If you know you want to fuck this girl's man. Yeah. You would still go out and eat with them and kick it. I mean, their relationship is for them to manage.

Like, I got Hollywood unlocked to manage. I got a show. I got a book. I can't focus on that. And I'm really respectful of their boundaries, but, like, if they leave a loophole, you know, I have no problem getting in that loophole. Everybody's a little gay.

What is that your ringtone? I don't know. I told you how much of a gay magnet waxing. Really? All my gay guys love him. Like, I mean, it's unbelievable. Guys that don't, like, I mean, we was in a club one night. Wax is just sitting there in mind in his business.

Dude walked up to wax to shake his hand. She took his hand and lifted it up and kissed it. No, they did not. A European guy. No, they did not. Yeah, but you're a big nigger. like, I push the boundaries, but like when it gets physical, like, you get your ass for. I told him to, like, chill the fuck out.

No, he did. That's a lot. That never happened. What happened? Nothing. You said, you know, that's all he did was like, he wasn't even there. He wasn't even there. So, wait, does it offend you when, like, gay men, like, try and approach you?

Just chill out of me, all right, peace. I ain't got nothing to do it. I'll say that gay people do way too fucking much. They do, y'all. And then we get mad. Yeah, there are some cool ones. But then we get mad when y'all get mad. Like, you know, you got to be able to take what you get, pause.

And, like, you know, I'm grateful that, you know, Angelo's not mad at me. You know, we built a good rapport over the last couple of days, and we're just going to keep building. No, I got a homeboy named Terrence. Old a white dude. He saw wax in a white t-shirt, lost his mind. Really?

Yeah. And he said to wax. He was like, is that your brother? I said, yes. He was like, oh, he looks. I've never seen him in a kid. T-shirt. I said, Wax, come here, yo.

Wax came over. I said, yo, Taryn thinks you hot. Wax's like, yo, I'm just looking for a chase. I'm just looking for a chase. And Taryn said, I'll chase you anyway. See? I fuck with Taryn. Listen.

But you know what I heard? I heard gay guys don't like ashy hands. So I keep my hands ashy all the time. Really? Yeah. What that got to do with us? I don't know. What is that?

I mean. A gay dude is telling you how to groom yourself. No, he said that I'm like, oh, wow. hands always ashy. I don't like him. I said, oh, perfect. So you purpose to keep your hands ashy. Yeah.

I mean, I personally don't like herpes. So, like, don't have herpes. Don't have an STD. Like, fuck ashy hands. Adam got lotion in his bag. Yeah, we'll figure that shit out. Don't do you think people that go out of their way to prove they're not gay,

something might be a little crooked. Those are the gay people. Yeah. You think, though, some people just are like. No, if you're homophobic, like, okay, if you're homophobic, to me, that's a real. really clear.

Like Pastor Troy, I saw that interview. He did. That motherfucker dressed like Big Bird, sitting up there talking about this, gay son, bad his son may not be gay, this and that. Probably the same motherfucker getting fucked by Oscar the Grouch. Then you sit around and you look like, what the hell? Because gay people ain't even checking for you. But you're so concerned about, you're so consumer homophobia because something happened.

Does it insult you when you hear guys say that they act like gay men aren't men? Like a gay man won't beat your ass? You know? Yeah, I do because you'll be surprised. and, you know, there's still men at the end of the day. We're still men. So, yeah, I'm surprised. There's so many stereotypes, and it's really predominantly in our culture.

You go to, like, Europe. I don't know about that, though. Yeah? Because I saw the woman that voted for man Pete and Iowa on Monday, which, for whatever reason, she just found out he was gay after she voted. She's like, I want to take my vote back. And that was a white, old white woman from Iowa. You know what I'm saying?

So I think homophobia is just a thing. I don't think it's a black thing or white thing or prevalent in one community. I just think it's a thing. especially because of the religious context. People love to go into that Bible and say. Well, that's true. I agree. So you know how you're always out and about

and you have making a lot of friends? How do you deal with the stage five clingers? Like the people that end up catching feelings for you when you're just trying to have a good time. You're not really trying to get into anything. I don't really know that I don't really focus on feelings, I guess. I don't know. You've never had like someone that you like messed around with

and then they end up like falling in love with. Yeah, but I mean, different levels. Like you fell in love with the trips or you fell in love with the conversation. I don't know what they fall in love. But we all have a very... You know, they fall in love with your dick.

Well, I mean, yeah, there's that too. But, I mean, if you got a girl and then you got some situation over here, you're pretty much focused on your situation. I would think I would expect them to. Don't get focused on me. What are y'all doing? Y'all have stage five clingers.

Well, I try to avoid that from the start. How? By not giving them conversation or just cutting them cold turkey. I know it sounds bitchy and me, but it's either that or deal with the drama or the stalking and whatnot. But don't the Klingas come from like after y'all develop a relationship? Like say you might smash a guy and then he's all into you, but you might be done with him, but he just can't let go.

It's kind of annoying, if I'm going to be honest. I know that sounds bitchy, but it's kind of like, dude, get a clue. Like what we had was cool, but that's what it was. And there's nothing going to be after that. So keep it going. And sometimes they don't get that. And so it's like, you have to. And then that's why you have to be bitchy to them.

they can get the hint. Well, it's like going to be nice. It's like when you go through a breakup. You got to just shut it down. No, I'm not going to follow you on Instagram. I'm going to block you for a while because I see that you're still like I can't. I get along with my exes, except for the one in the book, but all the other ones, I just had dinner the other night with two of my exes together.

Not that I'm saying. I don't have any problems with any of my asses. What if they cheated? Well, I don't think my ex cheated. But what I'm saying is you're in a relationship. You get cheated on. You're still going to be friends with that person. Don't lie.

Don't cheat. Don't steal. Like those are just three basic rules. Just sound like life. You know? Yeah. And I've had somebody lie cheating and still all in the same month. But the other two, my other relationships, not.

We all ended amicably. We're all still friends. We follow each other. We support each other. Like, we're good. How do you know when to cut a guy off, though? Well, you know when any relationships run its course. You know, for me, for me, right when I was going to start Hollywood Unlocked, I was like,

okay, I'm going to go for this thing. And I need to know my relationship. And my partner's like, in it with me. And I said, if they're not in love with me, because I was in love, then I'm out. And he was really honest. And I said to him, are you in love with me?

And he said, no. He said, I love you, but I'm not, because he didn't, I don't think at the time had the capacity to be in love with anybody. That was my signal to live. How do single people know, though? Because it's like if you were single,

I feel like you would always want to have a rotation. Like for me, sadly, you know, before I got my life together, I was always in a relationship. So I knew when to cut something off just because it couldn't go nowhere anyway. You know what I'm saying? So how, when you're single,

how do you know when to cut something off? I feel like you would always just keep that in rotation. I think it's always that gut feeling. Like, you know, okay, I've done it. It's been all this years or months. It's not going anywhere. It's not going to get any better. This is all that person has to offer or all I have to offer.

Why keep wasting each other's time? Just cut it. Really? I think girls cut it off more because me, I just keep smashing until you do something. Or until you act crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, she's cool. I keep her around.

But if she ever act crazy or try to look through my phone or anything, she never do that type of stuff or fuck with my car, Oh, you stay around forever. See, Wax is the guy that makes girls crazy, though. So that's not fair. You mentioned something, the phone. Why are guys so sensitive when it comes to their phone? You got naked pictures in there.

But you should have naked pictures of your girl. Anything else? No, you're saying. Keep sending them because somebody else going to say. I don't understand that. It's like, no, you can't look through my phone. I'm not trying to look to your phone. Well, I have an easy explanation.

I own a media company that has a lot of private information. You know, you can't look through my phone. But, no, I mean, I'm so transparent out. But I'm not in a relationship. Not in a committed relationship. I couldn't be in a situation where somebody said, I need the password to all your shit. Never.

If you're that insecure, you need to go find another fucking person because I'm not that guy. Do you think if a person loves you, they'll never lie to you? Or do you think you lie to the people you really love? Damn, that's a good question. That is a good question.

I guess white lies. What's a white lie? I think so if you love someone and you lie to them, it's something like, oh, it's a surprise party, so you're going to lie. So there's certain things like that. but to lie on, you know, bigger issues like, oh, I cheated or whatever else it may be, then no.

Then you should always be honest. Because what if you did a mistake? Like, oh, fuck, you know, had too much to drink. I don't want to blame it on the alcohol, but some shit. Sometimes it happens. Do you tell them the truth? Because you know what it's going to happen. Or do you keep that, take it to the grave?

That sounds like a woman. Yeah, you might need to take that to the grave because why was you drinking around this guy anyway? Anyway. I'm not saying me. I'm just saying hypothetical. Yeah. I used to think that if you love somebody, you lie to them because you don't want to hurt their feelings. Like all your girls that you don't care nothing about, you tell them the truth.

It's worse. How would they ever find out? But it's so hard to lie. The truth always comes out. Somehow someone, yes, it does. It's not if you don't tell it. It always comes out. It's so hard to lie, though.

Like, when people tell me stuff, they be like, yo, I'm going to tell you something, but don't say nothing. I go, okay. But they think about who you going to tell them all that way? But they know. They know right away that's a lie. Like, I'm going, because I can't. I just can't control myself. So I tell people, don't tell me a secret.

People only say that to make themselves feel better. When somebody says to you, don't say anything to anybody, they really want to get that shit off their chest. They want to share it. They just say that to make themselves feel better. Yeah, but I do feel like lying is so complicated because you have to remember everything you lied about. So I just feel like if you're honest, you build a relationship on honesty. Like my last ex was so good about grounding me and holding me accountable and saying, and like, yo, you were rude to that person.

Like, you did too much. Or you, you know, you keep fighting and do this. Or, you know, real supportive. So the communication was really good. I never had somebody that was like an asshole. Well, I did. But not like in the last, what, seven, eight years. I don't think you're capable of love, Jason.

Just by reading your book, I think that you have to do the work on yourself and deal with some of that childhood trauma. I think you lacked a lot. You didn't get a lot of love when you was younger. Yeah. So now you take it. I'm not going to say you take it out on people. You just, I don't know if you know how to love.

Yeah, you know, we both have a mutual friend Tiffany had. Every time she gets off the phone, she goes, love you, and she blows a kiss. And I find myself, like, cutting off the phone before she does it. Why? Why? I don't know. I had to call her back the other day, and I said, I love you. Me and tip through that every time we get off the phone. I love you. No, I know.

It's just like, it's a weird thing. And I do know it does come from, like, I haven't done the work yet. So I'm like, now I'm going through the process. I've gotten all on paper, and I have something to work with. But, yeah, it's really uncomfortable. Now, if I'm with somebody that I'm in an intimate relationship with, I'm very affectionate. I say I love you all the time and I'm that guy, but just generally, like, it's really hard.

To help you all? Not for me. I say I love you to everybody because I truly, like, I love you guys. Yeah, but one thing is, like, I'm in love with you. The last thing you've been in love. Huge different. Yeah. What I think you've been in love?

The last time I was in love was maybe, well, I just ended my relationship. So I'm pretty much in that phase where I'm like, this shit sucks. but whatever, it's time to move on. You still love them? Yeah. Why'd y'all break up? How long were we all together?

We were together for three years, three and a half years. Wow. Almost a whole year of four years of high school. No. He cheated. Yeah. Okay. So what?

Okay. No. But what? But what? Give me contact. We want to bigger and better things. I mean, it was a long-distance relationship. He also...

Oh, the God? Do you tell me about? Well, you know about two. Okay. My first relationship was, like, 13 years. Okay. And then this second relationship was three and a half.

And it was long distance. He really didn't like the business. I worked with a bunch of guys. He was very jealous. Insecure. And so I always tried to make it to him. Like, I don't care about anybody else. It's all about you.

But it was always a constant battle. Like there was just a lot of, when we were together, it was good. When we were apart, it was like. Was the sex good? Amazing. It was amazing. So you still let him smash. Yeah.

Yeah. It was amazing, amazing. Yeah, but he didn't support you. Every time we had an event, he would make you feel bad about it somehow. But the thing is, I understood him because if the roles were reversed and he's got a bunch of bitches around him, I would feel a type of way. I don't think you would. Well, I would understand it better, but I could understand his point of view. You know, it's not easy being in this business.

It just isn't. A lot of people can't take it. Majority of my friends are women. I have way more homegirl than have guys. The majority of my friends are men. It's all men. My wife don't be tripping because she know, I mean, she know them. Like, we all cool.

We hang out together. we kick it, they like her more than me. A lot of the time. That's how you're supposed to do it. Majority of my friends are men, too. That's not good. He's a good man. I don't know if I was the woman for him.

He cheated on you? Yeah, because we had taken a bird. He was jealous of you in your industry, and the whole time he was being a fuck boy jealous. He won't know. That's where it comes from. That's where that whole jealousy's guilt. It's guilt.

He knows what the dirt that he was doing. So he was taking it out on you. One reason I don't cheat no more. It makes my anxiety too bad. You know what I'm saying? And your sister made you break up with him. You wasn't a broke up with him. She did that.

Well, no, my sister. Made you break up with him. My partner, I'm sorry. It would affect her. And so then on her show it would affect because her mind wasn't honest. She wasn't focused. She's sad and depressed. And that pisses me off.

Like, don't fuck with my sister. There you go. Rihanna, you look so dumb right now. You start bursting into tears. Did you ever have a whole time where you were being cheated on where you're like, damn, I could have been a hoe and it had been all right. Right now I'm in the stage of anger where it's like, fuck, I could have been doing something else. I could have been with somebody else.

I wasted a lot of time, but. I would think. Never too late for a whole face. Right. I never had that whole face. You need to go out with him. Give yourself one year. I'm telling you, it just be a hoe.

Be safe, but just be a hoe. But you know what the ho is? Just having more than one penis a year. It's not like having a bunch of penises. That's not me, though. And that's never been me. More than one of years. Damn.

I just do what makes you feel comfortable. Yeah. Like, hole in is whatever you think is too much. If you go on a break, is the relationship over? No. Depends on what you guys establish. If a break means a break. Right.

It doesn't mean the relationship's not a break up. Like, we're going to take a break from each other. Right. All just means you all just want to fuck somebody else. That's what that means. And I thought fuck them if it's good, I'm going to stay with them. If it's bad, I'm going to come back to you. You just got to hope that this person don't come back with a baby, herpes,

HIV, that's it. But when you say break, I can understand if you are just starting and you want a break because you really don't know what this person's all about and you don't know if you want to waste your time. But after three years, you want to break? If in three years you don't know the value that I could bring, like you don't know me or you're not in love with me, then bye.

That's not true. That's not true. I'm sorry, that's just the way I think. Sometimes you need a break from the relationship just to breathe or whatever. That doesn't mean go fuck somebody else though. You ain't breaking shit. It doesn't mean that. But nine times out of ten, that's probably what's going to happen.

Ten times out of ten, that's what's going to happen. I'm not doing a break with nobody. No, we take a break. It's over. Bye. Thank you. That's the way I'm sure. I am too busy to be fucking figuring it out.

Yeah. I'm like, my wife's been together 22 years. We took a break one time. But you guys, didn't you guys start young? Like you were like in high school. So that you guys were still growing up.

You didn't even know where you were going in your careers and stuff. So that's understandable. But in your adult years, after three years, you want to take a break because you don't know. Boy, bye. What do you call adult years? What do you call adult years? Like when you're already past 25.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And old. You already know kind of what you want for your future. For a girl. Exactly. Exactly. So a guy 30, yeah, because they matured. Girl, 25.

Yeah, because guys' prefrontal cortex doesn't even develop until 25. Yeah, so we start growing at 32. 32, 33. When we start thinking about settling down. 38, 39 is when we really commit to settling down. 42. I am not committed to settling down right now. Like I'm not

Especially when Dykeman's right up the block Nah Wow It's a little different for you though Jace though Because you are You always probably been bagging dudes But now you're getting hot out here

In his business It's hard now Yeah You're getting that industry dick It's hard Well nah I don't fuck around in the industry I'm not no more

Never? No more Okay Nah You fuck some celebs or too I'm not talking about that Yeah That's

No Yeah I'm gonna say something Nah I'm not gonna do that Well You're 30, you're 30 yet, right? We think you, but no, we're a little older. 35, 35. Oh, really?

Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, y'all was wasting your time. Yeah, yeah. And especially for women, like women, if you want to have kids, you can't be waiting until you're 45. Yes, you can. Yes, you can.

Stop it, man. Stop it. Stop it. Wait, listen. See, y'all be stressing yourselves off over with this clock. First of all, you can get somebody to carry your baby for you. There's a woman who had a baby at 50. Oh, yeah, that actress.

Yeah, but who's got the money for that? In vitro, surrogate, that's expensive. That lady did not have a baby at 50. She did have a baby at 50. She went away for nine months. Janet Jackson. I don't believe that either. Janet had a baby at 50.

I don't believe it. You think Janet, she tricked us? Yes. So you think she was walking around with a baby baby mom? Yes. Was Beyonce pregnant with Blue Ivy? I don't know. Probably.

Yeah, probably. Probably. I don't know. Yes. When we saw a Beyonce pregnant girl. No, never folded. There was that whole controversial. I think she was pregnant, but I don't know.

I think she was pregnant. I don't talk about the carters. Okay. I treat the carders like they're Jewish. Okay. So you all ready to have kids and all that type of stuff? No, not at all. Not even closer.

You know, family's like, oh, you're getting old. You know, the whole Latin thing. And we're just like, I'm good. If I don't have a kid, I have my nieces. Do you want kids? I would like to have at least one, but I'm not. Why don't you just volunteer, like at the Boys and Girls Club or something? One of y'all got to have it.

If at the age of 40, I don't have a kid, I'm not having one. I'm just not because... Yeah, one of y'all got to have a kid. I think she'll have a kid. Yeah, one of you guys have a kid, then it's like both of your kid anyway. If I have a kid, cool. If it doesn't happen, then it doesn't happen. Like, I'm okay with that.

Really? I'm not that type of woman that's like, oh my God, I'm 35. Clock's taking... I don't have a kid. I'm not married. No. It'll happen when it happens. It'll happen when it happens.

You never told us how your guy cheated on you. I hate you, Charlemagne. I just want to know the details. I want to know how to happen. Was the girl you knew? No, it was a complicated story. He was in a really bad accident last year. I spent all of 2019 flying back and forth, trying to help him out.

He was a dick to me the entire time. And now you're going to start crying. And then, you know, afterwards, you know, New Year's actually, we were talking. And why I told them, like, look, you were pretty messed up to me last year when I was helping you out. I need to give me like a month for me to get over the resentment I have towards you. And nine days later, he was already with a girl in the bed. Oh, because he'd been with her, though. Yeah.

It was his ex. You called him? Ouch. Damn. How did you know you was in bed with her? Because I know. When your gut is telling you something, you'll find ways. That's something I got to give women.

That's what he asks. When the gut is telling you something, you will find weight. When he got in his accent, was he on pills? He's on drugs. There's no excuse, Pat. That's a good point. That's a very fair point, whack, boy. No, I'm serious.

His guy's on drugs. He can't be in his right state of mind. No, you know what? Honestly, he wasn't a lot of pain killers. He was on a lot of medications. Yes. That shit will drive you kind of nuts and it'll have you thinking crazy thoughts. Thank you.

Thank you. I agree with her. That's a very fair point. That's not giving that nigger no hour. Thank you. Thank you. I went up. Why would you?

He went back to him. It's not like he fell into some new puts. He went back to his ex. Well, he claims that he didn't fuck her, that she was just on the bed. And I'm like, do you know how dumb you sound right now? Are you going to tell me that you can do shit? The man was hurt and on pain medication.

He couldn't move. Please don't entertain this bullshit. Yes, please. And, bro, listen, real quick, what if he really didn't do nothing? Did you ever think of that? Do I even bring her to your bed? Respect. You weren't there.

He probably needed something from the drugstore. Some water for the bills. No, seriously, think about it. Who's the next person that he probably could call. to bring him something. His mother, his father, his sister. His sister. People believe him.

Exactly. Fuck that. Maybe she didn't want to check on them. Thank you. I wish him the very best. She probably is a good. He's driver. It is what it is.

Did he tell you that he cheated on you? I finally got him to admit, like, just fucking be. That's one thing I hate. Dude, I already know. Just man up, okay? And just tell me the truth. Just tell me the truth. You owe me at least that.

Now, that's the other problem. When you do commit to lying and cheating, you gotta commit all the way. Like you can't think you, you know, I would deny that shit all the way if I was gonna lie. I can't believe men still fall for that shit. Just tell me the truth and everything will be okay.

Don't you think it'll be easier to just say the fucking truth? Because now you're complicating everything so much more. Just say the truth, that's it. You've already been caught. There's no going back. What if the truth is,

I really didn't do anything, but you won't accept that because you have in your mind what you think I did. So you won't accept that. Maybe I did not fuck this girl. But then you have to take ownership because why then did you lie from the beginning? Had you just been honest and be like, you know what?

He needs a water for the pills. And this whole conversation, which has been exhausting, is the reason why I'm fucking single. Why? My only dilemma is what you're doing tonight? What are you doing this weekend? What are we doing next month? It's a lonely life, Jace. No, it's not.

I'm single, but I am not lonely. I'm not lonely by any measure. I wasn't lonely either, but I just wasn't. I don't know what the fuck I... Well, you got a fleshlight, so you got... Doc Johnson looked at me. I mean, I just did just try it and play around with it. It's not like my new girlfriend.

No, you need to listen to what he said about how he's fucking his fleshlight. I thought you got a girl. I do. So that's not cheating, is it? No. That's what I think... Yeah, but like you're like... Because the girl user vibrated all the time.

Is she cheating on me? Yeah, but he's arguing with himself of whether or not he should come in the flashlight because coming in the fleshlight would be cheating. It's like, he has some sick shit. You got out here. Listen, the fleshlight is only for, like, practice because you're supposed to count your pumps. And when I do the flashlight, I'm doing around like six, 700 pumps. And I'm like, I work.

I was running on the treadmill counting what 250 pumps would be in a matter of, you say, what, 10 minutes? Yeah. Like, if I'm like, if I did leg day, it's like 25 pumps a minute. If I ain't do leg day, it's like 40 pumps a minute. So in 10 minutes, I did about like 400 pumps. I've never counted a pump. And I bet you last longer if you do. Showman, why do you look so confused?

I'm trying to figure out what the fuck is he talking about. When you're smashing. When we was on Bullying the Beast, I told you, like, you got to sit there and count all your pumps. I do count. You do not count. You do. The reason I count my thrust is because it keeps me from coming fast.

There you go. That's what I'm saying. I've never heard this shit in my life. Now I'm wondering what my boyfriend does. Does he count his pumps too? He probably do his ABCs or something like that. No, for real. You do it.

You hum your face. You hum your favorite song. I'm gonna tell you what else keeps you from coming fast. Like if you got like the metal rods on the bed, just reach up and grab the rods. I'm serious. When your hand touches that cold steel, it just keeps you from coming fast.

Like you gotta do something to distract you from how beautiful your woman is, how good it is. You gotta do something to distract you from that. So I just count. And I'd like, especially, oh,

the best thing to do is like fuck up on the count. And you got start over? Oh, no, no. So if you guys don't do what you're saying, what are you guys? Like two minute men?

Is that what it is? I mean, you will be on 50 pumps. Can you do that in two minutes? That's your fault, though. It's women fault when we come fast. Oh, God. Right?

Oh, my God. You got to listen. Because number one, you're beautiful. You smell good. And the pussy is amazing. Like, it's very hard not to come fast when you're with a beautiful woman. It's so selfish.

But that's why we're doing the challenge. We're doing the challenge. Because we know it's selfish. Sounds like a cop out. Like, you so beautiful. I just came in like two minutes. It's selfish. Yeah.

Blame it on your. your beauty. You see how man I always try to blame you for some shit? Don't, just don't do something. Just don't moan too much. If you like really moaned a lot, you're going to definitely get this man to get out of here. Do what? Mowing turns you guys on. Oh, yes, man, yes, man. It turned you off, man.

If you moaned too much of my nut, just shut up for a little bit. Do you know that like literally 90% of a man's sex life is spent trying to figure out how not to come fast? I'm talking about since we, from the time we started fucking to Now, it's time not to come fast. Every time I know I'm about the smashy girl, my first thing is,

yeah, I got to think of something before. I got to smoke a blunt. I got to sit there and think about something bad. I just do the fall, but I'm a four-play king. Like, you know what I'm saying? You just got to make sure that she gets hers a couple times before you get in it. You know what I'm saying? And then just do your 250 pumps and 30 seconds.

That's it. Because I'm at the point in my life where I'm happy. I'm happy when I, you know, 40 minutes. How did you have been married? That's dope. 22 years. How do you keep sex fresh with just two people for 22 years? I mean, listen, we've been together since we was kids.

Yeah. So it's not like the only people we've been with, you know, but as you get older, you start to realize that it's not just about the physical. It's about emotional and spiritual and mental. Like, those connections with the sex, totally different ballgame. Y'all haven't got to that level yet because don't nobody love y'all. But when y'all get to that point, when y'all get to that point where somebody really loved y'all and y'all are committed. It's a difference, yeah.

Oh, my God. I'm playing porn hub for my mind. It's just I can't. Like, you can have, I can have sex with a different race at a different island. I can have park sex. I can have all kinds of sex. I can do that. It's so crazy.

But I have to stop watching. Well, I have more. You know, when I need more, when I have time for more. Yeah. But it's always nice to have that one person to that you could really know you could count on on a deep personal level. Making love. Or even to share your, like, success.

Yeah, God. Me and God. That's who I share everything with God. I mean, but you know. Y'all never made love? Who? Yeah. You never made love?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was in a relationship, of course. But now I'm moving so much like I'm literally here. Just because y'all moving slowed on me, that's making love. That's slower down. You know, like I'm just in the pursuit of something with my business. Like that's, I'm really just in love with that. Like I think, you know, I'm 42 now.

Should I have a kid? Everybody keeps saying, oh, you need to have a kid for your legacy. My book is my legacy. My brand is my legacy. Like, what I do is my legacy. I know that I'm not going to be, at least right now, a good parent. I just don't have the time. Now, I know if I had a kid, I'd be like, where's my kid at?

All day long, that's all I would have was, where's my kid? Where's my kid? I just don't have it to me right now. Y'allon. I have. Of course I have. I have. A thousand times I have, but now I haven't.

So that's, we have a hornhub like he's saying. You can get a man. Is he still contact you, at least? Is this not around? But the crazy part is you keep answering the phone. Can you please? You make that nigga. Fuck him.

I will put his name out right now. Give me his photo. I'll put on Hollywood on like right now. They still might end up together. Yeah, exactly. They still might end up there. I'm serious. Listen, that's the only thing he did, though?

Is that the only thing he did? Did he ever put his hands on you or make you threaten you or something? No. You know what Javante Davis to you? No. Damn. That would be like. So, so that one mess up for three years?

I mean, okay, it was the brick thing, he said. The break thing kind of messed it up. Well, it was just a lot of things. Just everything, that was like pretty much La Tapalpoma. What? La Tapalpano. That's the finishing touch. You should learn to be more forgiving.

I mean, think about it. Ludacris went on a break, had a baby. Him and his wife ended up together. Way, Swiss beats went on a break and got married to, well, at least she kids. I don't know what you think about that. Brax to me and like breaks some. Sometimes breaks me, you got to move the fuck on. If they can survive break babies, you can survive just him, you know, being hot.

We shall see what happened. And somebody taking advantage of him. I'm like, Jason, right now I'm focused on my baby is my career. And that's about it. But you could be a hole on the side. You got to give yourself a year. Man, I'm telling you boss up and you really like step into these dudes. Like take control of that shit.

They'll all be all over you. Call that baseball player, man. Let's go to Peru. Let's fucking go hiking in Peru. Because I need to talk to you about this shit-ass nigga. That man will shower you with everything you need. When you come back just like, yo, I'm not ready yet. He'll keep giving it to you.

What about you, Lela? What about me? Are you going to be committed to somebody? I am committed to somebody. My boyfriend. How long are y'all been together? I've known it for two years, but we made it official like about nine months ago. Oh.

Hey. Mm-hmm. Okay. You love him? Yes, I do. Is he from New York? No, he's from Miami. It's long distance.

Why do you? But he travels a lot, and I like that he understands the business that I work in. He's not jealous. I'm not jealous. Like you, he has a lot of female friends, but he, like, I'm okay with all of them. We're all mad cool. I have a lot of guy friends. He's not like, he doesn't have a problem with that.

And he actually supports me and, like, pushes me to, like, do more and, like, go bigger, go harder, go bigger. He's the opposite of my ex. Yeah, he's a man. All right, let's take a quick break and show some love to Squarespace, man. You can turn your dream into a reality with Squarespace. Squarespace makes it easier than ever to launch your passion project. Whether you're looking to start a new business, showcase your work, publish content, sell products, and more. SquareSpace is the tool for you.

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launch, use the offer code idiot to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. That's Squarespace.com slash idiot. Off a code idiot. Now let's get back to the show. Listen, I saw you make a face when I said to Javante Davis thing. I love Tank. Yeah, tank's cool. Tank gets busy in the ring. Do you think he was out of line? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah, I called Floyd's baby mama, Melissa. I was like, yeah, what happened? She was like, it just happened so fast. He just came and snatched her up. I don't, I mean, that's his mother of his child, but that's not his girl. Even if it wasn't his girl, you can't let a woman get you to that point. No.

You know what I'm saying? To where you're putting hands on her. Because if you do that in public, everybody's mind automatically goes to, imagine what he does behind. That's exactly what they said too. And next thing, you know, you're fucking up your money because now nobody wants to do endorsement deals with you. And then, God forbid, you get a charge, which you ended up getting a charge with domestic violence. So it's just like, you don't want that on your record. Yeah.

That's going to follow him forever. Have you ever had a guy jacked you up? No. No. No. I would never allow that. I would never allow that. And I think if it was between forgiving someone that put his hands on me or someone that cheated on me, I would.

I'll take the cheating anything. He didn't not put hands. I mean, that's still putting hands. He didn't hit her. He just grabbed her like by the time. But that was putting hands on. He put hands on it. And you're, that motherfucker's strong.

Yeah. He can kill somebody. I mean, he's not a good punch. But the, but the way she reacted showed me like that wasn't the first time to happened. Oh, no, she reacted like a child who knew that they had got to do. And she came back when it was over and sat down. Really?

She was really embarrassed from what I heard. She was really embarrassed. I couldn't even, how could you even come back around? You know, no disrespect to white folks, but all of them white folks was like, look at that shit. It was just too, I don't know. She came back and was embarrassed. But the fact that she came back and sat down and finished watching the game.

Taylor hates her, right? And Taylor hates her because he took her on a shopping spree. Taylor Yeah, Taylor right there Hey, too You said you didn't like his baby mama You didn't like him buying stuff For his baby mama

Dervante Davis When did I say that? Oh He did you hear the whole topic about it on the radio Yes Okay So I ain't after you come on the mic I just said you don't

No because I need to explain my part Take that You know, in a matter of fact I haven't used this in a while Is she the one that wanted to sleep With Sergei Bacher or that was funny No that was serious Because we haven't done this no while

Oh my God First of all I, what? Can you explain what happened though? Because I don't remember, I remember commenting on it. Devon took his baby mama on a shopping spree. No, that's not what it was. Yes, it was. And we had the conversation, is that okay for a baby daddy to take his baby mama shopping

because he got a whole other girl? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I said it wasn't, I didn't think it was necessary. I didn't say that was, I hated her. Stop putting words in my mouth. I heard. I hear some jealousy.

I didn't think it was necessary. You have a whole other girl. You don't need to like, it's okay to like, like respect to baby mom, but all that gets for a birthday. That's the mother of your child. So what? Well, not only that, he's a public person. And when you have a baby with somebody who's a public person, you got to make sure they

have security. You got to make sure that they can't fly comfortable. You got to make sure that they're taking care of. You cannot. They are, though. So why do you have to cherish her with all those kids? If she's a good one, if she's a good baby mama, please take care of her. That's fine.

But you don't need to shower a good one. No, you don't need to shower her. If the mother of your child is happy, your child will be happy. Yes. So she can be happy with a. Like, happy birthday, a car. So Floyd's baby mama, Melissa, drives a ghost or whatever car of the week

that she wants. She lives in a big ass house. She's dressed well. She flies, whatever. But, you know, she's not going after him for child support. He's taking very good care of her and his daughter. So wouldn't you want to have a relationship

where we don't have to go to the courthouse and fight over, you get $25,000 a month? Yeah, but then there has to be a level of respect for the new girl that you're dating. Like, if you're sharing her with more gifts than the one that you're with, there's a huge problem there. And on top of that, she, that's it's over. So the only time that he should be sharing is the baby.

Maybe that's delicious. The mother's day is the baby and that's it. I doubt it's the case that he's treating the baby mama better than his new girl. But the new girl is the one that got to learn the rules. I was just, not the baby mama. Man, I was just about to say this is the problem with y'all. Y'all be getting in situations and wanting the man to change and give up everything for you because he's yours. Stop that.

It's okay. As long as he can take care of you the way that you need to be taking care of and still keep his daughter or child's household intact with it. his mom, why not? That hits close home to me because I had to deal with that shit and I didn't like it. It was just complete disrespect. There's no need at all

for you to, you know, give her the... Like, I just, I can't do it. I will never... Explain, Lulu. What happened? So my ex has a baby mama and she was always, like, very in the way. Like, always blowing up the phone,

wanting to know everything. Like, why? That's his baby mama. I don't give a mother of his children. But it's over. So your only priority is your kid and that's it. As long as he's,

good and you take care of him and you're a great father, okay, you have no responsibilities at all for the baby mama. That's not true. The bitch got another dude. So why do you have to be all up in her life, though? Can I try some? Okay, so in the book, my mother, my father was married to his wife. He's still married to his wife for 45 years. They've been married. He had seven kids out of his marriage with five different women. Okay. So with that idea, that's probably the reason why my father was never around because his wife didn't, you know, you had that kid, but you're not about to go over there and build no home with them. That's fucked up.

And because of that, all of us got daddy issues. We're not saying that. We're not saying that. Okay. But for him to be in the kids' life, he has to have a respectable relationship with the baby mom. Yes.

One thing is you have to provide for that house so that's still a house. You have to find a baby for the child, not for her needs. I can't wait till y'all become baby mamas. I can't wait. No, my dad, right? So we have a half brother.

And my mom, my dad, her ex or whatever, she was respectful. She never got in the way, but my dad has a great relationship with her. So does my mom. It was done respectfully. You know, my dad didn't have to go and buy her anything. He provided for my brother. I don't even call him my half-brother because he's my brother.

You know what I mean? But she wasn't blowing up the phone. My dad wasn't taking her on vacation. You know, it's not my dad's responsibility. Go call up the new guy that you're with or call up a brother or something or whatever. That's his fault. That's a question, too. Does he have a boyfriend?

Who? I don't know. And see, that's it too. You'll be okay? Yes. Let's make sure the nigga get us something. Yes. Make sure he get us something, please.

He's not getting us. He's not getting you shit. All right, well, we got to figure that out. You don't know that. We're going to share stuff. Yep. Or are we taking the stuff back? Keep the tags on it.

What kind of car you want, baby? What kind of car we getting? What kind of car is Javante buying us? Yes. Sorry. Absolutely. My man, why are you not buying this for me? But why do you care?

You're already getting yours. Why do you care? I'm not. Because like, I guess people look at it. Yeah. But that's the problem. And that's why everybody's single but me. Well, you're, I mean, I'm not, you know, having broken relationship issues.

Like, you're married. You guys figured it out. I ain't got time for that. This is too much. You don't think it's unnecessary at all. No, I think that, I mean, because I see it. I've actually, I have friends who are actually in those situations. I think they take very good care of their families and their baby mom and their kids and

all that, but then they also take care of the people that they're wet. I'm not saying not to take care of them, but there's a fine line that you don't cross. Now when it comes to the mother of your child, because that's really the mother of your child. That's the carekeeper, the CEO of your child's life. You have to make sure she's good. You want her to be good mentally, emotionally, sexually. You should be able to hit the baby mama once in a while. Oh, my God.

I'm just playing. Okay, then be that, but I'm not going to be there. Why? I'm not going to be. Why does the gift have to be? I'm sorry. I'm just saying she's waiting for the white pick of fence. I don't know.

I can see my white picket fence. We're just talking about one thing. He gave her mad shit for her birthday. Not necessary. You could give her a gift. A nice little dinner. That's not doing like making sure she's good. Like that's not making sure she's good.

So if a guy showers you with gifts, is that necessary? See, you're trying to twist it around. I was asking a question. I don't know baby mom or anything like that. If any guy decides he wants you want to shower you with gifts just because whether he likes you or he just showing his appreciation. That's fine. Is that necessary?

But in that particular situation, That's not what it is. No, it's not. That's the mother of his child. She earned that. Whether she's getting it in child support every month or he's deciding to take her on a shopping free. She earned that.

What's the problem? Keep her happy, please. No, there's a level of respect. There's a level of respect. She gets ugly. I'm all about... Yeah. You're going to be there.

Okay, y'all need to stop. It is not... No, but think about it too. Because the main mom could easily just twitch around like, oh, well, he got me this stuff, too. He's smile. He still likes me and loves me. And then you can have a new man,

and that new man is going to be living off. You're the old. It's just too complicated. It don't matter. If you're Javentine Davidson and you're paying $10,000 child support, your baby mama, if she got a man, he got that too. It don't matter. And dejo el then.

What's that mean? That ho ain't what? He's a dumbass. And he's also paying, not only is he paying for the girl that he's with, the baby mama and the baby mama boyfriend, how stupid are you? Well, if the baby mama's happy, y'all are going to have a lot of peace in your relationship, too. Like, could you imagine? What's the opposite?

he's now going to court every month with the baby mama getting drug over publicly shamed you ain't shit now she's fucking off his brand now he can't get money to take you where you want to go now you don't like that either you got to pick aside you want the drama or you want peace peace but he's also setting a whole

thing so she's going to expect that every year for a birth like I don't know so what he's rich you can fight you're saying you're putting a he didn't even got a big payday yet he's putting a perception in her in her mind though I feel like but somehow you're not But somehow you all are translating it like that's taking something from you.

Because that's going to cause me out of peace. Like, I'm like, well, why are you like? But that's your fault. And by the way, if we're being honest, you're just a girlfriend. Yeah. If you're a wife and that's totally different, baby mamas, take president over the girlfriend. All day.

Oh, worse. Are you everybody mom does? I'm going to a totally different situation. Wait, and I say, let's wait. When you're the girlfriend, you're not thinking, like, at least for me, I'm thinking, all right. this is going to lead somewhere else. I'm not thinking it's not going to, it's just, you know, another two months and this shit is going to be done.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm not thinking it like that. And listen, I said a good baby mama. Good baby mama take care of her before she puts you on child and deal what I'm doing. You got this shit. Most guys that got baby mamas, they're keeping everything kosher with the baby mama

so they can have a great relationship with the kids. So if the new girlfriend puts me in a situation where I got to choose either, oh, you're really asking me to choose between my child and you. Not really the baby mama and you. And this is why. I'm a good side nigga because I don't care. I'm not fucking up your shit. Okay, the baby needs some milk.

Cool. Your girl need books for whatever she doing. Cool. Like, I'm going to help y'all out. If you could do that. If you know how to take care of and give her, give a present, I'll hear keep you forever. Forever.

You ain't never going to me. And this is why y'all losing out to us because you're so busy dealing with that bullshit. We over here like, what's up? Damn. Damn, it's real. Game men have learned how to be better sides than goddamn women. Flights at 7.30. What are we talking about?

Angelo, come with me to L.A. for one day. Take some pictures. Take some pictures, man. Come here. Yo, he said, he said, twerk got unlocked. Unlocked. Share the mic with Jason. How much on a scale of one little Nisex?

How gay are you? I'm a one. I don't believe. So he says it's chance. Well, I only need one. That's it. See? That's it.

It's a chance. It's a chance. You ever thought about it? No. I don't believe that. For real? Yeah. I'm just a friendly person.

I'm not gay, though. Okay. What do you think, Jase? You know, I'm not really into, like, outing people. Everybody should be whatever they want to be. But I just feel like, people should just, like, hang out and vibe. Catch a good vibe. Once you catch a vibe, all that gay straight shit just go.

right out the window. You're like, damn. One of my homeboys said, man, you're so cool, bro. I said, see, that's how I start. You let your guard down. Keep your guard up. I'm not. I'm trying to be friendly. I will get you some. Hold on. I will get you mad.

You mad. Listen. Wait, first thing. Watch. Do you smoke weed? I got a weed man that pulls up anywhere. Number two. You a sneaker guy?

No. Okay. Well, fuck that. What else? Okay. Wait. Wait. You like pussy, though.

Oh, I got some bad-ass girls. I got a girl, man. Yeah, but that's okay. That's home base. He likes cameras, Jason. Speak to his heart. We got cameras. We got cameras.

They got cameras at loving hip-hop. Next season on loving hip-hop. You hold the camera. I'll tell the story. No, I'm just playing. He's cool. He's a good guy. All right, Angela, bye.

Thank you. I still got to get your number before. Do y'all think Jay Z and B, you think everybody blew it out of proportion that Jay Z and Beyonce didn't stand You went to Rock Nation. See, Rock Nation, they fuck with me. We get money on the side, but they'll never let me to room because I got to ask.

How do you create a partnership with the NFL and support CAP? Which I think you asked the question when you were there, right? Because people were trying to understand this. Then go to the Super Bowl because you manage Demi Levato and you managed Shakira. Yeah. But then you sat during the show. Like, it's such a conflict because it's not like the money they get from the partnership is going to Cap's foundation.

That'd be great. I'd think it's sending a mixed message. I'm confused. Do you believe what he said, though, that he was. so focused on like what Devin was doing. Jay Z is smart as fuck. No, there's no way you come out of

Marcy and get to where you are and not be smart. You know what you're doing. You're the biggest star in the world sitting there during a halftime show, of course. Did you see the video? Yes. It was mad people sitting in that section.

It wasn't just Jay and Beyonce. It was white people sitting in the section. People weren't standing. That whole headline of oh, they didn't stand for the anthem. They were protesting. Where did that come from? That's like Rick Fox dying.

Like somebody made that shit up. Like that she came out of nowhere. Yeah, but they matter. Like, they matter more than all those other people sitting down. Like, when you see Beyonce, I went to Puff's house. I was standing outside for the Grammy party. Everybody was coming. There was tons of people outside, but you only saw Beyonce walk through hundreds of people.

So that's our fault then. Because we're not really focused on what they were doing. We're focused on who they are. Because it was mad of the people in that section sitting down. And nobody had the problem with them not standing for the answer. But it's because what he just said, because they are the biggest stars right now in the world. Like, it's Jay Z. Beyonce, it's Queen B.

So obviously all eyes are on what are they going to do? America needs to stop being so focused on celebrity. I agree. Because when situations like this happen, I don't look at the celebrity. I look at the actual issue. The issue is you're mad that these people didn't stand up for the national anthem. So what about everybody else in the section? But Beyonce has come out recently and said that she's now doing music that's more important to her legacy in the culture and for black people.

Like she's really on her black shit. And we love it, right? She showed that in her performance at the halftime show. you had to sit in the bleachers to hear the sound. Usually the sound guys are on the stage. I don't know that you need to sit in the bleachers to sit down and precisely focus on whether or not Demi Lovato sounds right.

I just think the whole thing is kind of contradictory. I didn't really understand like the partnership with the NFL when they side with Cap, but the money is not going to Cap's Foundation. It would send a really piercing message, I think, if they donated the money to Caps Foundation. Well, the money's going to a bunch of different foundation. That's what the whole Inspired Change thing is.

Inspire Change is a foundation. that they allocate money from the NFL to a bunch of different organizations. But where's the money that Jay-Z and Rock Nation is getting going to? What you mean? Like so... Well, you got to pay me for my partnership. Right.

So what, but what you do with the money you're paid can send a message. Like, I'm partnered with the NFL. I took the money and I gave it to Cap. That would be like, wow. I mean, would Cap take it? Who knows? I don't know.

Who knows? I just don't like when people say things like, you know, Jay-Z and Beyonce are trying to co-op Capernick's movement. Let's be clear. Protesting police brutality was not Kaepernick's movement. Like, he wasn't the first person to protest police brutality. So how do you co-op social justice?

But that's our fault. The same thing with everybody saying that Sean King is some Messiah for the Black Lives Matter movement when he posted the shit about Kobe after Kobe died. Like, who the fuck made Sean King? I don't know if that was real. It was on his Facebook. I went to his Facebook. I went there too.

I didn't see it. I saw it. Yeah. I didn't understand that. Yeah, I don't understand that. Like, I think people, I think it goes back to us putting social. much stocking this is the voice of black people like no I look at you the breakfast club

that's the only show I really pay attention to when it comes to stuff because I feel like you guys are fair you're going to ask our questions but you're also going to dig into what the people want to know everybody else I feel like they're trying to do what you do or they trying to do what Wendy does Wendy she's just reckless she don't go fuck she's going to say whatever she wants to say y'all motherfuckers need to be standing up if you don't love America get the fuck out of here like what the fuck that was a lot I was in the back like

You got Ivy Park on too. Wow. What Ivy Park goes? Let me clear, the national anthem is racist. It always has been. It was written by races. It's a third verse. That's all about slavery.

If I see any black person saying that, I would not give a phone. I honestly don't think that they did it on purpose or that I honestly think they didn't even notice. They didn't even think about it. They probably were no focus on how Demi sound was looking. And Beyonce has done Super Bowl, so she knows what the deal.

I don't think they were trying to be disrespectful or anything. But I also think that people have become so sensitive for everything. Everything. It's so annoying. But they knew the National Anthem was, they're not. Exactly. You know that the National Anthem's going to play. It's one of the biggest events besides the game and the halftime.

And you know, everybody's filming you. You're Beyonce. Or you're standing next to Beyonce. I wouldn't care. They're black people. They don't want to stand up before that. Think about how that works. But it's because it's such a big event,

and everybody knows how big Beyonce and JZR, do you think they purposely sat down so that they could get the backlash the day after? I don't think so. I don't think about it. Think about it. When we're at these places, right? Charlemagne, you know Beyonce's always on.

I don't think she was paying that shit no attention. When the anthem happens, if people stand up around you, then you'll stand up. Even if it's a standing ovation, you'll stand up when everybody else is standing. If you're sitting in a section where nobody stands up, you're cooling. Charleston, I went to the Super Bowl. You've been to the Super Bowl? No. Okay.

Super Bowl. Super Bowl. Super Bowl, I've been to football games, but the Super Bowl, like, every single seat is filled. Every single seat has like a shirt or something that there's like a uniform color. When they come out the whole place, it's like the craziest thing where everybody sends up. You know to stand up or not stand up. They knew what the fuck they was doing. Well, not in that section.

If you go back and watch that video, nobody in that section was standing up, like one person. I think Jay-Z's like Oprah. I think he's reached a place where black people are just going to accept whatever they do. No, Oprah's starting to catch it now. Oprah is starting to crack because now you got social media and the power of social media shit can move across the world really fast. I was just honestly kind of annoyed that we were even talking about Beyonce and Jay-Z when the halftime show was about Shakira and Jennifer Lopez. Like, Beyonce, honey, you got your moment.

You had a whole Super Bowl. This is about the Latinas. By way. Two women rocking out, shaking their asses, doing their thing. And we're talking about Jay-Z and Beyonce, not standing for the national anthem. You're right. I was mad at that. I'm like, dude, like you had your moment.

It's not about you. It's about Jennifer Lopez. and Shakira doing something that's never happened before. But that's not Beyonce's fault. That's not Beyonce's fault. Yeah, that's the people's fault. It just annoyed me that I'm like, I can't believe we're taking away from these two women because of what, you know, Beyonce and Jay-Z did.

Credit to Beyonce, the woman Kim Burst behind J-Lo and Shakir's performance was once Beyonce's person. So she did kind of help her. But yeah, I agree with it. It was a great performance. I loved it. Wasn't the greatest halftime show of all time. Like some people from the Latino community are trying to say.

But it was close. It was close. It was really good. I'm not saying it was the best. Michael Jackson to me was... Bruno Mars, Michael Jackson, and Prince for me. Beyonce's first one. Beyonce was amazing, too.

Well, they also tried to dig Whitney Houston out the grave and give it to Demi Lovato. I don't think she beat Whitney. Not at all, not even close. I didn't even hear it. Yeah, they were company. I know what I don't like about Demi Lovato. When Demi, we were at Jamie Fox's house one day, and Demi was walking through the party,

she really wanted a picture with Floyd Mayweather. So her person says, hey, Demi really wants a picture of Floyd Mayweather. I said, okay, hold on. Hey, Floyd, Demi wants to get a photo with you. And he was like, who's that? And I said, Demi Lovato. And he was like, okay, I'm not really familiar with you.

And so she's like, I'm a singer. And I'm like, yo, she's big on Instagram. I pull it up. I show all this, whatever. So she goes, so they meet. They take their photo. They walk away. And her people go, hey, yo, can you help us get Demi to sing the national anthem at the

Connemer-Gregor fight? I'm like, yo, that's a big ask. But if I get that, I need Demi to partner with Hollywood on lock to put out this limited edition merch. And then we'll partner and we'll make all this. This is how I was just thinking whatever. So I go to Floyd and I'm like, yo, I got the perfect idea for this Connor McGregor fight. Demi Lovato could sing the national anthem.

She's this much of followers on Instagram. She's going to bring in this audience. She's going to this and that. And she sings the national anthem. At the McGregor fight? At the McGregor fight? And afterwards they son me on the deal. Yeah.

Yeah. Like I've never told that story, but I kind of feel like when she was up there saying, I put that shit on mute. I didn't want to hear that shit. because I already heard that shit. And I lost money when I heard the shit the first time. Wow. Yeah.

Rock Nation, they move, you know, they're interesting. Oh, so that was Rock Nation you were dealing with? The management, yeah. Really? They couldn't get Demi to sing it? Ah, Demi doesn't really do that, but that was great that she performed at the event. Yeah, they said, Jay got her to do that personally. No, I'm talking about the McGregor.

Oh, the McGregor, John. Okay, okay, okay, got you, got you. So did that really mean something to the Latino community? Yes, it did. 100%. Yeah, yeah. Talk to me why? Huge.

Because you don't really see it all. there. First of all, there isn't in the past. There hasn't been diversity. James of Dominican, too, by the way. I'm not a black. And so to see, you know, Shakira and Jennifer Lopez, well, Shakira mostly, she was singing in Spanish. You know, there was a little Spanish in there. It's kind of like, oh my God, I can't believe we finally got, we're in general market. People are seeing us. And not to mention, Jaylor's 50, the Mikes were off. So let's say they were performing. So to see women that are in the older part of their lives still doing their thing up there. That's like a, that's a big thing. I was inspired.

I'm like, damn. I was proud. Am I going to say, like you said, is it the best Super Bowl performance? No. But they did a great job. They really did great. And I love the fact that they brought out Jay Balvin and Bad Bunn. Rotten Rabbit.

I didn't see that. I was on the Spanish block and they was going crazy. No, for real. That's why diversity matters because I've seen the Latino community was on a highest week. And also, like, the message behind, like the children behind the cages for every, you know, everything that's been going on. And Puerto Rico as well, they've gotten such a, you know,

shitty response whenever. They've, even now Puerto Rico's still having earthquakes and no one's really talking about that. Like, that's horrible. So seeing them as old women inspired you, too, just the way they look.

Yeah, because it doesn't matter how old you are. Like, you're out there doing your thing. It doesn't matter. Like, they don't really say that when a guy's performing.

Yeah. You know, like they don't say that. And it bothered me that they were, some people were like, oh, this was like porn. They were half naked.

Adam Levine last year had his shirt off, nipples exposed. Nobody said anything about that. Like, why don't understand? It doesn't matter if you're going to bitch about something, it's got to go both ways. As a Cuban woman, was there ever any fear that y'all may not age gracefully?

Never. Okay. I don't think there's age. Never. A lot of people tell us you shouldn't see your age on the radio. You shouldn't do that because it's bad, especially in this business. But I'm proud.

There's a lot of friends we went to high school that didn't make it. Like they've been six feet under. So to me, I'm like, I'm 35. Oh, I thought you meant like didn't make it. Like, they got fat. You had a hundred years. No, no. You mean the kids.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, I'm happy I'm 35. Pitbull should have been on that stage. But Pippo did the pre-show, I think. I think that's why he wasn't on that main stage because he did the pre-show before the Super Bowl kicked off. I think Flo Riders should have been up there. Yeah. I think Cardi B should have been up there.

Cardi should have been up there. I heard Cardi didn't want her. Her Cardi turned it down, though. Oh, really? I don't know how true that is. That's what somebody told you. And a part of me thought that Shakir was going to have Whitecliffe there for the... Jarl Ruel?

Yeah. Dramos, y'all, y'all Puerto Rican brother. Dramos. Which, by the way, he won't ever admit to this. But when we first started here, he was like, eh, I think bad bunny is corny. La, la, la, la. So we're the one that put him on that. And now I'm like, oh, what happened?

Well, he's a bad, he's a bad bunny fan now or something. Yeah. He was just, he was like, oh, it's kind of corny. And I'm like, what do you do you even know? know about your culture? Like maybe research a little bit more. And we brought him into that culture. Now he's like 100% proud Puerto Rican.

You're lying. He didn't even know his Puerto Rican? So he just started representing Puerto Rico? No, he's always represented, but he wasn't as knowledgeable. He was like, this guy's corny. Like, what is he, his style? Like, what is he trying to say or do? Like, I don't understand it. And we're like, just

just give him a, listen to the music and give him a chance. Like, listen to the lyrics. Just like, with hip-hop, listen to what they're saying so you can understand. Yeah. He was like, oh, it's corny. I'm like, you don't even know this dude. He said no black people were necessary because the whole point of it was to raise up the next generation of Latino culture. I don't think that's true.

I feel like, like I said, if a white clif would have been there, a flow rider, he should, I, you know, we worked in Miami for three years and flow is our friend. So I'm like, you know, he is Miami. He could have been up there. You know, he could have been up there. I think pit bull for sure. Pitbull and Cardi for sure I was surprised that Pitt wasn't there but I could understand it because he did the pre-show

Yeah but that doesn't matter I don't know I don't know what happened there I don't know what happened there Hey guys I think we've had enough What Taylor Take that take that They broke up? Oh you gotta let them hear it though

I don't think they heard I heard it I haven't heard it I don't know You got to let them hear it Taylor Let Jason and Lulu and Lila. I hear it. This is a good note to end on. Put it on what? Yeah.

Can you pull it up in there? What would they do? Listen, is Gail interviewing Lisa Leslie? I'm going to take a piss. Is Gail interviewing Lisa Leslie? By the time I come back from Pee and, y'all should have heard it. It's been said that his legacy is complicated because of a sexual assault charge, which was dismissed in 2003, 2004. Is it complicated for you as a woman?

as a WNBA player? It's not complicated for me at all. Even if there's a few times that we've been at a club at the same time, Kobe's not the kind of guy. Never been like, you know, Lisa, go get that girl or tell her or send her this. I have other NBA friends that are like that. Kobe's, he was never like that.

I just never see, have ever seen him being the kind of person that would be, do something to violate a woman or be aggressive in that way. That's just not the person that I know. But Lisa, you wouldn't see it. though. As this friend, you wouldn't see it. And that's possible. I just, it's just, I just don't, I just don't believe that. And I'm not saying things didn't happen. I just don't believe that things didn't happen with force. Is it even a fair question to talk about it, considering he's no longer with us and that it was resolved? Or is it really part of his history? I think that the media should be

more respectful at this time. It's like if you had questions about it, you've had many years to ask him that. I don't think it's something that we should keep hanging over his legacy. I mean, he went to, it went to trial. It was dismissed because the victim in the case refused to testify. So it was dismissed. And I think that that's how we should leave it. That's how the fuck we should leave it.

I agree. I think it's disrespectful. And I blame black people. to me, Jason. Because y'all keep giving motherfuckers hall passes to be disrespectful. I feel like, you know, no matter what Oprah says, she's God, she could get away with it. No matter what Gail King says, because that's Oprah's girl

friend, King's say she can get away with it. Like, Jay-Z, he could do whatever. He went, nah. Like, that's why people, like, what we do is important because you've got to hold people accountable, no matter who you are. Like, why are you not focused on the many, many, many white men

who abused their platforms or their positions in Hollywood? And I know they keep bringing up Harvey, but he ain't the only one. There's so many other people. The same with, like, you know, I mean, I don't know. I just find it really interesting now that we're allowing these legends

or these icons to be disrespectful to our people. Lulu and Lala. I think it's completely disrespectful. I mean, the man isn't here. And if they did have questions, why didn't you say something when he was alive? Like, why are you going to bring up his dirty laundry or whatever the case may be after he's dead?

Like, it's disrespectful not only to him, but to his children and to his wife. that they're still morning right now. And now they have to deal with this. I think it's just completely wrong. I'm offended. Yeah, I think it's two sides of every story, right? And for me, it's like, okay, a young woman says Kobe Bryant sexually assaulted her.

Kobe Bryant says he didn't sexually assault her. He said that they had consensual sex. Guess what? You're free to believe whoever you want to believe. A court of law says that, you know, Kobe Bryant didn't do it. She didn't want to testify. The case got dismissed. So if Gail feels like, and I don't even know if Gail feels like that,

but if she does feel like Kobe Bryant sexually assaulted that woman, cool. If somebody like Lisa Leslie feels like Kobe Bryant didn't, that's fine too. Don't try to push anything on anybody. You know what I mean? So that conversation should have never even happened. It never should have happened. It sounds like somebody trying to line somebody up.

Like, why are you trying to lie? Why? Get out of the way. What does Lisa Leslie have to do with Kobe other than they played in the same city? They played basketball. If the woman who was an alleged victim or whatever wants to come forward now and tell her story. I don't think anybody's arguing that she should be

silent. She's to do whatever she wanted to do. But I feel like there's this baiting now, especially anytime they talk to somebody black, like, what you think about Kobe back in X day? Like, what? That's what we doing? Yeah, I just think it's crazy. In my mind, I was online with people when he died. The idea that he could have been holding

his daughter as they crash and died. Why would we even be having this conversation right now? I don't even know if he's not even buried yet, right? No. And why do we keep, even, let's just hypothetically. We say it is true. Why do we reduce people to their mistakes? Right.

You know what I'm saying? Like why do we reduce, why do people's setbacks become their identity? Clearly that man grew, he evolved, great redemption story, came back won championships, had kids, became such an ambassador for women in a real way.

Because people will always remember the bad things that you do and they will never remember the good things because he did a lot of good things for a lot of good people. And so we choose, well, they choose to focus on that instead of,

it's annoying, something else. whisper your success and they scream out your failures. How uncomfortable for Lisa Leslie, though. Exactly. That's my point. Even if you talk about it from a journalist perspective, right? You know, Jason, we do this. Yeah.

But like me and Jason, we ask these, we ask questions that people may be like, why would you ask that? But at least I'm asking it to them. Yeah. Why would I be asking Lisa Leslie about Kobe Bryant? Just because they played in the same city, just because they're both basketball players, like, what? I'm surprised that she even answered.

I probably would have just gotten it's over. I'm not, don't even. Not to mention Lisa Leslie's role. in L.A. with the sparks, right? And to basketball and how she's been a trailblazer for females in basketball. L.A. just went through the death of Nipsey Hustle.

Let me just put this in context. L.A. in general right now is so down. Like, you just went through this with Nipsey. Now, Kobe on a whole other level, the day of the Grammys, nobody was even talking about the Grammys. We were talking about Kobe. And like, the dust isn't even settled yet.

And I just keep thinking about his daughter in the fact that her school has an empty chair. Her house has an empty bed. Like, I just can't get over that. So I think it's just way out of pocket. But again, we've just made it permissible for these icons to do whatever they want to do. And what's the point? Yeah.

You get nothing out. Like, what was the actual point of that conversation? Yeah. Like, what are you trying to do? Like, I don't understand the point. And I love Gil. Whoever wrote them questions out was like, wow. Shame on her.

Yeah. Yeah. They wrote questions out. But Gil had to say that. I mean, you saw what was on the paper. She, Gil has enough cloud to be like, no, I'm not going there. I hope she explains it. I'm sure she will.

You know, once she starts to see the backlash. I just want to know what she was trying to get out of that conversation. I think that I would like to know. Do you remember that Oprah had received an award at the Golden Globes where she got up and spoke about Me Too? And she said, you know,

I can't wait to the day. She ended up by saying, I can't wait to the day that no woman has to utter the words Me Too again. She really like had the world behind her and championing, you know, champion women and wanting to get behind the Me Too movement. But I have said like, Me Too movement is. come the new HIV. It's just moving

all over. Everybody's catching it. Anybody can catch it. There's no regulation for it. There's no cure to it. And if you say somebody has it, you just treat them a certain way. No, no. It's the coronavirus. You can live with HIV. Well, okay. Maybe let's say Corona. Well, we don't know coronavirus yet. And Me Too takes you

to fuck out. Okay. Maybe there's been advancement in medicine. Maybe that's not a good analogy. But you know what I mean? Like, at this point, it's not really, I don't feel like it's really fair. And so, yeah, I mean, I think it's something that she started out really getting a lot of women behind her on, but now it's just, that's just too much.

It's become, and I hate to say it, and I'm a woman, it's kind of become like a joke, really. Like, it's not, the seriousness has been diminished, to a certain extent. But that's because they put everything in one basket. You know what I'm saying? Like if a guy, you know, grabbed your butt back in the day, and they throw you in the same bucket as Bill Cosby.

You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's levels, right? Like, everything is not the same. Everything shouldn't be in one basket. And that's what they did. Yeah. That's not cool. Well, listen, Jason Lee, God must have forgotten about me is out right now.

Yes. Okay? Thank you for coming, Jason. You want to give me your Twitter's and Instagrams and all that stuff? All that. Oh, my Instagram. Oh, my mind is on posting. Yeah, the only Jason Lee and at Hollywood on Knox.

Lulu and L-la, give me Instagrams. Oh, at L-L-L-L-L-A, we share one. L-U-L-L-A-L-N. Lulu. I follow. I follow. Yeah, you follow all of us. We follow both.

We share one Instagram. No, but I follow one of y'all personal, too. My personal, yeah. I don't have you on my personal page? That's the page y'all cheating on. I got a question that. It's really not entertaining at all. Like, I have like, well, a thousand followers, maybe.

Not the public profile, but them DM's lit. Nah. And it's like. Well, listen, Lulu Lala, I love y'all. We love you. We love you guys. Jason, we love you. Love you, even though you don't like to say it back.

I love you, too, Charlemagne. Oh, shit. Hey! Jason is growing. Are you coming on Hollywood on Lock, please? I'm there. Okay. I'm going to be in LA a lot in March.

Like, I got like 10 L.A. dates in March because I'm taping something. So I'll be out there a lot. What? Oh, wax. God damn it. Wax. Wax will keep his fly open. Why are you looking?

You know, listen, where was we at when you had your dick out? Oh, that we were in South Carolina. What? We were in South Carolina. We went to the barbecue restaurant, right? Oh, my God. Yeah, went to the bathroom. He came back.

He just leaning on the counter. Me and my cousin Kentee are like, dick is out What's his dick really out? Yeah This guy is so crazy He's leading on the counter There's two kids working in there

I'm like They're gonna make you register As a sexist You keep this shit up Damn He forgot to fucking zip his hands up That's horrible Give me your Instagram wax

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