The Brilliant Idiots - Suck My Knick
Episode Date: June 19, 2026Charlamagne flies solo with Chris and Alex Media to break down the Knicks' historic finals run, why Jalen Brunson just had a Jordan-level moment, and why Victor Wembanyama needs to fully commit to vil...lain mode. Then it's straight into the deep end: the Jay-Z/Target boycott double standard, Elon Musk's trillion-dollar smokescreen, the new Epstein-Trump "cornered rat" notes, and who they'd send to represent humanity in an alien invasion. They close it out with a gut-punch reflection on mortality, legacy, and turning 48. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Jess Hilarious - Til Death Do We Parent - Pre Order 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God - Pre Order The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel -Order Link Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley - Order Link Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks- By Charlamagne Tha God - Order Link Check out Andrew Schulz - www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" - https://blackeffect.com Checks out AlexxMedia AM Mornings Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/zt3hy9x9 #CashAppPod Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Cash App Green features, Savings, Direct deposit, Round ups, Overdraft coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Yep, Charlamagne the God and Andrew Schultz is not here.
Hedekiah Walker is filming a movie.
Okay, so it's just myself and Alex Media is here.
Chris Moro is here.
Taylor Gang not here.
She's busy being a mother.
And she just got a bonus.
Yeah, she just got a bonus.
She just got a bonus.
So who knows what the hell of Taylor's up to right now.
But, yo, listen, man, Nixon Five, they did it.
Shout out to the New York Knicks.
Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
Yeah.
I thought it was going to be Nixon six.
I'm not going to front.
Nixon five was, it wasn't surprising after you saw, you know, how the Knicks got down.
But where do we stand?
Greatest playoff run ever?
Has to be.
It has to be.
Sixers, 1992 Sixers had a, I don't remember that.
Come on.
I believe a foe, foe, foe was the famous quote.
They went four, four and lost one game.
So it's a similar.
over four decades.
Come on.
Yes, historically.
Yeah, I don't want to be a prisoner at a moment, man.
I'm just simply saying that when I watch the New York Knicks in this playoff series,
you felt the magic.
And I haven't felt that in a long time for a team, yo.
I haven't felt, I haven't felt, I haven't looked at a team and say,
yo, that's a magical team in a really, really, really, really long time.
Not even the Golden State Warriors, and they were magical.
Yeah.
And I'll tell you why I don't look at the Golden State Warriors in that way, because they had all-world talent.
They had Steph Currys.
They had Clay Thomas.
They had Prime Dremont.
Then they ended up getting Kevin Durant.
Now, the first team that won a championship without Kevin Durant, that was magic, but they were just really good, right?
Then they came back and they did with 73 and fucking nine.
That was a magical team.
But they lost in the finals.
But once again, they had otherworldly.
Hall of Fame
elite talent
So we didn't know that at the time
With Steph we did
Nah we kind of knew with stuff
With Steph we were already
We owned them Splash Brothers
They had a little bit of like
An underdog status at first
That changed once they became established
After the first one I don't think they had no
Underdog status after the first one I don't think they had no underdog status
They went 73 and 9 Chris
Yeah you're right
I mean I would say the difference is
I've never seen the magic on the court
At that level
And then the magic off the court
match it, right? So like there's almost two things going on. Like there's the games itself.
And this is, this is talking as someone who's in New York for it. Like, I've never seen anything
like this in New York. Like since 9-11, which was not a positive thing. But that's the closest
parallel. Like, even my dad called me the other night and was like, what was the energy? Like,
have you ever seen the energy in New York on that level? And I was like, yeah, 9-11, the energy
was off the charts,
but in a completely different way.
Like, there's never in...
I've never seen New York if I've just kind of joy.
Joy.
Joy. Yeah.
Hope.
Belief.
You know, it's crazy.
So, me and Schultz, we went to the game.
Oh, yeah. Tell us.
I honestly wish I was in New York.
Wow.
Yeah, because, like, one, being at the game
was exciting as fuck.
But then after the fact,
San Antonio, they wanted their blood back.
Like, they were out in the streets.
Everybody who had anything
Nixon, they was, fuck you, fuck you.
They were trying to start fights with people.
People were getting jumped.
Some do.
What happened to your suck my dick?
What happened to your New York?
Suck my dick, Alex.
Suck my dick.
That's what you're supposed to say.
I'm going to fuck where you at.
You're in New Yorker.
If you're out of state in Spurs is acting like that.
Suck my dick.
Texas is a.
Open carry state.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
No way you're at.
You're right.
But it was crazy.
It was the excitement.
And to be in that room for it to see that happen was fucking amazing.
But still,
New York is, I've never seen it like this.
Yo, that video of when, um,
the Knicks won and they was just like,
what Manhattan sounds like somebody just was,
somebody just had their phone or something outside.
Like, they were just recording.
It wasn't even, they weren't even,
they were like in a building.
And they were recording out the window
and you could hear the whole city going crazy.
That shit gave me chills, man.
It sounded like during COVID.
Remember, like, 7 o'clock when they would, like,
clap for all the nurses and first response?
All right, like bang on box and everything.
I wasn't even out for that.
Yeah.
I was in Jersey.
I didn't see that shit.
Yeah.
So like at 7 o'clock, every time in New York, we would like, everybody would just cheer for the first responders.
And it would just be the whole city would just go.
What the fuck with the first responders that?
Like, because they had to be in the front, like, they had to be in the hospitals while everybody was dying.
Got you.
Got you.
Nah, that shit was incredible, man.
I've been here for 20 years.
I've seen the Giants win.
I've seen the Yankees win.
I've seen the Mets have a run.
the match, yeah, I've seen the match have a run.
I've never felt anything like this next shit, yo.
Like, New York is really a basketball city, man.
And shout out to the Knicks.
I seen a video somebody posted.
That shit said, Charlemagne the God's xenophobic take on Victor Winbihan.
And they were playing clips from brilliant idiots when I was having the conversation
about how a foreigner can't be the face of the NBA.
I'm like, how the fuck?
That shit made me go look up what xenophobic was again.
I'm like, how fuck was that xenophobic?
And ain't Victor a fucking alien?
So what the fuck are we even talking about?
But it was, yeah, see right there,
Charlemagne de God goes on an insane xenophobic rant
targeting foreign players not born in America.
Yo, that's crazy.
Yo, the reach, to get some views a lot.
The reach is crazy, right?
So here's my thing.
All the Knicks victory did was prove why when you are an American-born NBA player
with a blue-collar story like Jalen Brunson and the Knicks being a blue-collar team when you have-
What I call would call.
Brunton is blue-collar.
I'm talking about the way they played.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm talking about the way they play, the type of team that they are.
Dad's a former player.
You kind of had a little access that.
Yeah, but this is a team who,
when you look at all of their starters,
it's like nobody wanted them.
Dallas let Jalen go out there
and test the free market.
OG was somewhere else,
you know, they ended up letting them go.
McKell got traded,
but the fact that they would trade
on McKell Bridges.
Carl Landon in the Towns went to the Western Conference
finals with the Minnesota Timberwolves.
And Minnesota said,
hmm, you know how we can be better?
Let's get rid of the cat.
Like, this shit,
it makes no logical.
since those five people come together.
What's to quote, Chris?
The sum of all parts equal a whole
or something like that.
Like, that's what happened with the New York Knicks.
And they came together and had a historic playoff
fucking run. I don't know if it's because
it's New York City. I don't know if because
we watched somebody like
Jalen Brunson look like
Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant
in the NBA finals.
That's a big statement.
It's not even, I just say,
look like.
Because I remember watching Bulls games, and no matter what the score was, you didn't turn because you knew Michael Jordan could win your shit for Chicago Bulls.
You watched the Lakers games and you didn't turn because no matter what was going on, you realized Kobe could probably win this game for the Lakers.
That shit happened in five games with Jailen Brunson.
And he had shooting struggles in like the first two and three, but still found ways at the end of the game to win.
And then he just put it all together in games four and five.
Game five, you drop 45 in San Antonio.
So I'll let Sheltz make this case when he's back,
but after the game we were having a debate,
he's trying to make the claim that Jalen Brunton is the best player in the NBA right now.
He is.
Without a doubt, you'll say that.
Right now.
The best player in the NBA?
Listen, you can only grade things based off what happens throughout a whole season.
He's the last man standing, last team standing, King of the Hill, had an amazing playoff run.
At this moment in time, right now as we speak, Jalen Brunson is the best player in the NBA.
He's the best guard for sure.
That's different.
Is he the best player?
So you're saying you get...
Who was the best player before?
Yo-kick.
Yeah, there's a few.
Like, right now, if you can assemble a team, your very first pick is Jailen Brunson?
No, it wouldn't be my first.
So that's the best player, that's your first fit.
And he wouldn't be my first peak.
But I will say this, going down the stretch.
Got to have a jailer.
To your point, I'd rather have Brunson than Yokich.
Got to have Jokic struggles if you put them in a one-on-one situation.
If it's two minutes left, a minute, 30 left, and you need a bucket, I don't know if Yolkis can get it for you every time.
Oh, yeah, Clutch.
Brunson, to your point, I've been watching the NBA since 1980, religiously.
The person I was most fearful in crunch time was Jordan.
Without a doubt.
Second, most fearful.
Reggie.
No, Bird.
Oh.
Bird.
Every time I was just like, it's over.
You just knew he was going to find a way to win.
I think Brunson is like approaching.
You just knew coming down the stretch, he's going to go.
Now, every time.
Let's tell the truth.
That drive he had over Wemby that everyone's saying is one of the greatest plays in NBA history,
Blaton push off, elbowed him in the stomach.
Nah, ain't a fuck that.
No.
I have no reason.
But so it was Jordan's push off on Byron Russell.
So, you know, what am I going to do?
You could take his face off the screen,
Chris, I'm not playing that.
His face is disgusted me.
But it says,
Shalaman de God gives him to say,
I'm not playing that.
Well, listen,
I don't have no remorse
for Victor Winbiana.
I told y'all this shit before
on the pod,
and I saw y'all comments,
and y'all said I was tripping.
The most over-hyped,
so-called superstar
face of the league ever.
Wow.
I hated the David and Goliath marketing.
How the fuck is he Goliath?
He hasn't won anything.
The Knicks and Spurs,
this iteration of this
Spurs team and the Knicks being in the finals should have been an even, even exchange across
the board.
There shouldn't have been, I understand that, you know, Vegas had odds two to one, but what
has Victor Wimbiana won for him to be Goliath?
He's Goliath because he's tall and Jalen is small.
Like, he's not a tough giant to slay.
Who was who the fucking Victor Wemianna?
He just beat the defending champs, who everybody thought would be untouchable this year.
A injured defending champs.
Missing two starters.
A injured.
and throw the Timber Wolf's team.
What do we, like, like,
the hype for Victor is ridiculous.
It's because you see moments
where it all comes into focus
and you're like,
there are moments where you're like,
if he strings enough of these moments together,
there's no stopping him.
Yeah.
But he's not evidently capable
of stringing enough of them together yet.
Will he get there?
Yeah, he's going to get there.
I don't think so.
He'll get there.
Chris, he disappeared in the fourth quarter
for every single game.
He just doesn't have a move.
He doesn't have a go-to,
move. You can't give him the ball with a minute left and be like, get us a bucket.
Because he thinks he's Kevin Durant. He's incapable. If you gave him the bucket around the
rim, he probably could. How the fuck are you working out with K.G. and Hakeem Elijah won in the
offseason, but you're still out there trying to play like Kevin Durant. That guy is so overrated,
yo. He's beyond overrated. When OG backed him down and dunked on him two hands,
I'm like, this guy is, he's worthless in the fourth court. You can't stop. You can't get me a bucket
in the fourth and you can't even stop
people from getting buckets in the fourth?
Like, he's a...
But he's overrated. He's still young,
so I'll give him time because, like, people
were saying this about brawn, fourth quarter
Braun, and he changed
his game where he became more
dependable. I was thinking about...
Not to Brunson's level, though. Not Brunson's level, but still
way better than in the beginning of his career.
This is Brunson's first NBA finals
and he showed us
who he is. That's true. That's Captain
fucking clutch. I think they should call him.
Captain Crunch, okay?
Put him on the front of the fucking Captain Crunch box.
Fuck Wheaties. Okay?
But he showed us who he is.
Victor showed us who he is. This was literally
supposed to be a star-making
finals for Victor Winbihan.
It couldn't get no better.
You're playing against the New York Knicks and the number
one media market. You're the face of the league
for whatever reason, are supposed to be
the face of the league. And all you did
was show us why you're not ready to be the face
of the league and why foreigners
can't be the face of the league.
So is Brunson face of the league?
Right now.
I think he is.
Right now.
But also the face of the league conversation is a little,
it's a little much too because there's only been a few faces of the league.
There's only been a few.
Magic Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, LeBron,
Steph, and then you have the other people like the Shaquille O'Neils.
Did you say Kobe?
I don't, I don't think so.
That was the time Kobe had it for.
Kobe had culture.
The league didn't want to give it to Kobe
because of the other stuff that happened.
You know what I mean?
Like the league didn't want to make him
the face of the league.
But he had it.
He went to three finals in a row,
one, two, you know.
Like, he was,
Kobe should have won an MVP one of those years.
The face of the league in a certain point?
I think Shaq was at a certain point.
Because he had the endorsements.
He had the publicity.
I think he was.
He had the rings.
I feel like they were co-face of the league
during their running with the Lakers.
Because they both kind of had it.
I think Kobe Bryant was an unofficial face of the league
and he was a cultural face of the league.
I don't think the NBA.
Think about even endorsement,
like McDonald's and everybody backed away from Kobe.
Nike couldn't really run no major campaigns for him for a while.
Like God bless the dead,
everybody does a lot of revisionist history to Kobe.
He was amazing on the basketball court,
number two greatest basketball player of all time.
But during that time, there was a lot of backing away of Kobe.
Kobe didn't get what he should have got.
He was seen as selfish.
Let's tell the truth.
shot all the time.
Even the 81 point game,
it was like, there was backlash
against that. So yeah, I think that's fair.
It was that. Then, then it was
when the
stuff happened in Colorado, then it was
the stuff with Shaq when he made
the comments about, if you take, you see what I
I forgot what it was, but you see what Shaq paid?
It was just a lot of reasons why the league
didn't put the gas
to Kobe. He was a divisive guy.
Like, he wasn't
nearly as well loved
when he was here, unfortunately, as he has been in debt.
Absolutely.
There's been a new narrative.
I think that's fair to say.
And I'm going to tell you who will be, though,
just to get off the Spurs and the Knicks for a second.
You let Cooper Flagg have an amazing season next year.
And y'all going to understand what face of the league looks like.
They've been waiting on a white guy.
They've been waiting on an all-American white guy.
He's got a new haircut.
He's got to do a couple things, but he'll be all right.
Hey, he'll be fine.
As long as he don't do nothing to insult anybody,
You know what I'm saying?
And he stays on the straight and narrow.
If he comes out in balls next year,
you're going to see what face of the league looks like.
Because he's ready to go.
But Wimbiana is overhyped, man.
So Luca can't be the face?
No, he's not.
He's not from a guy.
L.A.
It's not from America.
You're not from America.
I don't make the rules.
The New York Knicks are showing you the difference.
If they're not a difference between the Knicks winning and OKC winning?
Sure, but that's market.
No, it's not.
Who's the star.
horrible KC.
A foreigner.
If shy was from New York. There's a difference between
Toronto and
Croatia or wherever Lucas from, right?
Yeah, he's from Canada. The guy
was from Toronto. He went to Kentucky.
Like, he's not that foreign. He's not that foreign.
No, he just got a Nike deal yesterday. He dates Cardassi. He did
whatever. He had converse. Nobody was wearing
converts because of shy. It don't translate. Say anything with Denver.
The star is a foreigner.
It don't translate.
I'll give you.
I don't know if I noticed we were mispronouncing a shy or Shay.
Shea, whatever.
Can you imagine if Yolkis was from Kansas?
You know the conversations that they would be having?
So like a nice Greg Oster tag.
If Greg Oster tag was nice.
Can you imagine the conversations that would be happening around Yokic if he was from
fucking Kansas?
Like it's just different in New York.
The Knicks are showing us that.
Story franchise hasn't won't.
53 years, biggest media market.
Yo, Jalen Berks, they've been on everything over the last week.
Yeah.
They've been on everything.
Like, that is the difference between being an American NBA superstar and being a superstar
from another country.
Well, people love OG.
He's the second biggest hero to come out of this.
He's not American.
But it's jailing.
We love OG, but it's jail.
It's because of jailing and Kat.
Like, and OG's right there.
I love OG from Nigeria.
OG is probably O.G has become one of my first.
favorite players in the NBA, because those type of players
I like. I root for the
Dremont Greens of the world. I said here last time
before Game 4, I was like, he's the second most
important player on the Knicks. I think you're right.
God damn it if he didn't win that game.
I think you're right.
Did he bow on that layup?
Yes. Oh, come.
No, no, no. We just have to tell the truth here.
We have to tell the truth. In Game
4, when they were down 30,
the amount of text I was getting from
Knicks fans being like,
the fix is in, this shit is fucking
rigged.
So if it was rigged, why
didn't they call the foul at the end? It wasn't
rigged. I thought reps missed a lot.
The Knicks fans were showing their ass
when they were down 30. Let's be on.
Who can't? Yeah, so what?
It has to be said. Because there's been
so much cockiness and swagger
since then, I'm like, you guys were fucking
panicking. I have the text. I have...
I have the receipts from Harcoy... I'm laughing because
you're not 100% wrong, but it
doesn't matter of. We had
Jose Alvarado on, and Jose was saying,
how he was just talking about how fucked up the energy was for game three.
Right.
He was just like,
we had to be there mad early.
He was just like everything was off.
And I was like,
yo,
that was God.
Because I think about it, right?
I had Knicks in six.
But after seeing what I saw,
Knicks would have swept the Spurs.
I really believed that
if they didn't have that disruption
of President Trump coming for game three.
Can you imagine if the Knicks had one game three
and then one game four
the way that they did in Madison?
Square Garden, New York would be missing two boroughs right now.
Like right now, two boroughs gone up in flames immediately.
Bronx, out of here.
Okay, they'd have burnt the Bronx to fuck down, all right?
Parts of Brooklyn gone.
I'm actually surprised we're pretty tame.
Like, we ain't, we ain't destroyed the city that much.
Can we acknowledge and salute the real MVP of the series?
Who?
The Sixers fan who came and showed up in the Dennis Robben jersey.
Oh, he was a Sixth fan?
Yeah, he's from Philly.
Yo, this is what.
Well, he's a Spurs fan?
No, he's a Sixers fan.
He was just looking to avenge what they did to us.
Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah.
So he wore a Spurs jersey just because he wanted action?
Yeah, he just wanted the smoke.
That's why I'm not mad at a lot of Spurs fans I saw getting beat up.
No.
Because, no, I saw a lot of that type of trolling, yo.
You've seen the kid Ty Lill had to stop this one kid.
He was like, yo, what the fuck are you doing?
You're from New York.
Stop doing that shit for fucking clout.
He put on the Spurs jersey and then jumped.
was taunting the crowd of New Yorkers.
So you're telling me that this guy
that they call in the Incredible Hulk
put on a Spurs jersey
when he's a Philly fan.
He just wanted action.
That's it.
Where you've heard this from, Chris?
From his IG account,
D. Wallace underscore Wallace 27.
I'm from North Philly.
I just wanted the smoke.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, don't fuck with that guy.
Wow.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you for your service.
Yeah, he's different.
Wow, wow, wow.
I would watch
that video and I was thinking to myself too, but people
really can't fight no more. Not him, of course,
but everybody that was swinging on
him, because they couldn't do nothing
with him. Just be solid,
bro. So, hold on, go back
to that caption, Chris. So a
76th fan hated the Knicks
so much that he put on a Robin Spurs
jersey just to engage in physical
combat with Nick's fan. This is legendary.
You know what? What was his name?
Salute to the underscore Wallace 27.
I did not know this story, but I respect it.
I give it to him.
Even the choice of Jersey.
I give it to him, man.
That's how you know he's not a real spurt.
He just...
Rodman?
He was on the spurs for five seconds.
They hated him.
But still, you pick one of the craziest motherfuckers of all time.
Just to go out there and start banging with people?
Shout out to you, man.
Drop on the clues bond for Dee Wallace underscore 27.
I won't say this about Victor and Beyond him, though,
because I was thinking about, like, marketing.
Remember I was saying that he needs something that can help him connect with culture?
Number one, first of all,
in order to connect with culture, you have to win.
That's first of all.
You got to be great.
You got to be dominant.
He was not that in the NBA finals,
so he's way behind the eight ball.
But there is an angle that came out of this that he can run with.
Got to be the heel.
I think that's it.
Be the villain.
Be the bad guy.
He don't got it in him.
He's so.
No, he gave us heel.
He gave us villain.
Naturally, organically, we hate him right now.
I don't like Victor Winbion.
I don't like Victor Winbion.
I don't like the way he acts.
I don't like the way he carries itself.
I don't like how dirty he is as a player.
I didn't like his post game.
The way he was talking when he was like,
oh, such and such,
hope to talk to y'all never,
all that shit like that.
I didn't like when they were down three to one.
He's like, everybody knows we're going to come back.
Who the fuck is everybody?
Everybody where?
Yeah, but then he's showing up the games
in religious garb and painting in the park.
Fuck all that.
It'll be a heel.
Fuck all that.
You got to go straight heel.
That is heel.
He's rejecting us.
That's right.
He's saying, I don't give a shit about your clubs and your American culture and all that.
Oh, okay.
Go full bad guy.
Mafia boss.
You guys are all fucking peasants.
I'm going to sketch these statues.
I'm going to do my French thing.
I like it.
I think it's a great narrative.
He should go scrape mob boss and we can call him big pussy.
That's what we need.
Let Victor Winbion go straight mob boss, straight bad guy.
We call him big pussy.
All right.
But then he got to win.
You got to win.
He got to win.
If he's going to do that.
You got to win.
That's the whole key to being a generational face of the league.
You got to dominate.
Somebody said to me, Shaq got swept in his first finals when he was 22, 23.
Yeah, but Shaq still dominated.
Shaq averaged like 28 that series, 28, 12 and shot 60% from the field.
We just don't remember that because Akim Elijah one was otherworldly.
Like, Kim Elijah one took Shaq to school in ways we can't even imagine, but Shaq was still dominant.
If Victor Winbiana goes out there and averages 28 and 12, shoot 60% from the field, Spurs probably.
He got 26, 11, and 3 blocks.
Who?
Those are dominant numbers.
Yeah, but he shot, his field goal percentage was like 40-something.
He didn't show up in the fourth quarter at all, Chris.
He disappeared in the fourth quarter for the motherfucking San Antonio Spurs, man.
and Shaq average six-assist the game.
Look, pull up his fourth quarter stat.
And then in game five, 19 points, 14 rebounds, five blocks in a fucking potential elimination game.
Come on, man.
Come on.
What's his fourth quarter stat?
In the fourth quarter of the 2006 NBA finals against the New York Knicks, Victor Winbion
average, 7.3 points, 2.3 rebounds.
And how many assists?
Half an assist.
Half an assist on 34.3% shooting from the field and 25% from 3%.
from three-point range.
Gavage.
Yeah, that's not good enough.
Gavage.
Gavage.
Now, you know what the Spurs need?
Dylan Harper.
Now, Dylan Harper, that's going to be, that's going to be like when beyond is
Kobe.
Whoa.
To his shack.
Harper's a beast.
Harper's going to be a killer.
And he just took Fox's spot.
Fox got to come off the bitch.
I don't get fuck how much you're going to pay.
I know.
That's great.
I don't get how much they pay.
That's great.
Fox got to come off the bench.
Harper should be starting next year.
Fox got to come off the bench.
Well, Harper is that guy that can go get them a bucket.
in the fourth quarter.
That's what they need.
They needed somebody
that can go get them a bucket.
That's what I'm talking about.
But yes.
One thing I'm a little bit worried for
because now New York is going to,
we already put all these guys on a pedestal,
but now it's going to be like out of this world type of love.
I hope it don't get to their head
and they start like partying too much
and girls and all that type of stuff.
They got one.
I mean, listen, the thing about it,
a lot of them are very...
This could be like a dynasty type of stuff.
But a lot of them are stable.
You know,
about to get married, right?
Yeah.
Jose Alvarado's married with four kids,
got one on the way, got three daughters
and one son on the way.
Jalen Brunson had been with the same woman since high school.
Nice Jewish girl. You know what I'm saying?
They still basketball players at the end of the day, man.
No, I don't believe that. I see
a level of discipline and maturity.
That was the other thing that I saw
that the Spurs didn't have. The Spurs are a bunch of
kids playing against a bunch of
grown men. Like, you know, neither one of them
had finals experience, but those guys that
they were on the court against, you know,
and the Knicks uniforms just had more experience, period.
And you saw that shit show up.
I don't even need, I don't need the Knicks
to ever win another championship.
It's great if they do.
Why not?
Let me tell you something, man.
I saw, I can't remember the dude on first take.
What's his name?
His name Vince or Victor.
I'm going to send you this clip, Chris.
This is by far one of the worst takes I've ever heard.
You only get one.
They don't just think it's a flute.
You don't think, oh, everybody was hurt.
That's what this guy says.
I don't agree with that.
I mean, like,
there's no such thing.
A ring is a ring, bro.
But some people can make the argument.
Like, you know how the championship in the bubble,
they put an asterisk next to it?
No.
They do, they don't give them full credit for that champion.
A ring is a ring.
This is a full ring.
There's no asterisk.
Exactly.
But every team was hurt in the playoffs,
like on both sides, east and west.
But that's the game.
It's always like that this time of year.
The spurs were healthy.
I mean, the spurs were healthy.
Look, let's say Giannis goes to Boston.
which is, you know, when we're taping,
it's looking like that's what's going to happen.
Whoa.
It's, you know, there's no guarantees in this thing.
Whoa.
I mean, you got to remember.
Who would they have to give up?
They're talking about like a three-team trade
where they would route Jalen Brown to like Atlanta
or a team like that, be a lot of draft picks.
I saw that.
All right, here's this clip.
Listen to this clip.
This is one of the worst takes I've ever heard in my life.
How do we know that any of the last eight champions
are actually validated because they have not done it again?
Yannis is itching to get out.
Boston is thinking about trading Jalen Brown.
They don't believe in their one championship.
LeBron's one championship in L.A. was not enough.
So why would it be enough for us?
Validate is the Larry O'Brien that I put on that shelf and it stays there forever.
That's the validation.
The Laker thing.
Oh, you made a participation trophy then.
I'm sorry.
Larry O'Brien is a participation trophy?
If everybody gets one.
It is a actual trophy.
You won the league that year.
I'd like to know that greatness is doubt.
I literally don't understand what they're right.
He don't know what the fuck he argued about.
I can't even, what's his name?
That is one of the worst, we gotta find his name.
That's one of the worst takes I've ever heard on television.
The reason is one of the worst takes I've ever heard on television
is because a ring.
The reality of the situation is some rings mean more than others.
This New York Nick ring after the Knicks not winning a championship
for 53 fucking years.
years in the fashion that they did it when they went what 16 and three in the playoffs
it's un-fucking believable that ring is worth more than that ring is worth more than both
rings lebron got in miam oh lebron's cleveland ring is the ring that's a big ring
duane wade's first heat ring uh when he led them to the finals with shack that's the ring
Dirk Nowitzky's 2011 Mavericks ring.
That's a ring.
This is worth more than the Durant Warriors ring.
Easy call.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Easy call.
Easy.
I would love to discredit this in some way.
This whole last two weeks has been very painful for me, but it is what it is.
No, man.
It did it.
And I don't even understand.
How all of a sudden is the Larry O'Brien a participation?
Yeah, that's, I don't know.
You know how hard it is to win a championship?
You play 82 games.
You do all this training for preseason.
play 82 games and you play another potential 20 games in the playoffs and fucking
it's a participation trophy?
It's a horrible take right now.
Now, now we're moving to goalpost.
Now you got to win two rings to be considered legitimate?
No.
Vincent Goodwill.
Vincent, who's been around for a while, I remember him.
Vincent Goodwill?
That's his take.
Well, it should be Vincent bad take.
That was horrible.
Horrible, horrible.
But shout out to the Knicks, man.
It's been a, it's been a beautiful thing to watch in the city of New York, yo.
There's kind of a letdown now.
What?
I'm just saying in New York.
People got very into the rhythm of every other night.
There's a Knicks game or every third night.
People are out on the streets, the bars.
I mean, the World Cup is actually picking up a little bit of that slack.
Yeah.
So the energies, but you can tell, like, once the World Cup's over,
it's just going to be like, okay, now what?
Yeah, but the World Cup will keep it going for a while because New York is so diverse that.
It's like every single town has a night that they're going up.
The World Cup ain't got shit on New York Knicks basketball.
You don't understand.
World Cup is still.
World Cup is bigger.
Fucked out of hair.
No, it's not.
You don't understand.
The World Cup is not bigger than Nick's basketball in New York City.
We just felt this energy last week.
World Cup ain't bringing none of that to the city.
Fuck out of here, y'all are lying to y'all so.
No, it's not.
You go to, like, Washington Heights when, I don't know, some team.
Washington Heights.
Alex, what's going to happen in Barcelona?
Spain wins.
Oh, it's going to be crazy.
They're going to tear up a city.
I'm just saying worldwide.
I don't know what happened in Argentina four years ago.
It dwarfs whatever happened with New York.
Listen to what I said.
I didn't say the World Cup is bigger than NBA basketball.
I said in New York City.
Oh, in New York, yes.
The World Cup is not bigger than New York Knicks basketball.
That I agree with.
Okay.
And I think if you go to like areas of,
of New York like Corona and Columbia's plan,
it's going to be bigger in that one pocket.
I doubt, no.
I'm telling you they will tear shit down.
We're recording this the day before the parade.
But we might put this, we should put this out before the parade.
Jose asked me today, he said, how many people
you think are gonna be at the parade?
I was like, I don't know, probably like a million.
That's what I said.
Yeah.
More.
Somebody informed me today, my guy, Ernie.
Ernie said, a minimum.
Because I was telling him he said a million.
He said, Charlemagne, when the Yankees win, it's five million people.
What?
At the parade.
Oh.
That's what he told me.
I said, five million?
He said, there's five million people at the parade.
For the Knicks, it might hit 10.
Whoa.
It might be double that.
It's going to rain tomorrow, though.
Oh.
That's the only.
God know what he's doing.
God knows what he's doing.
God knows what the fucking.
fuck he is doing. God bless.
I made a doctor's appointment in Manhattan tomorrow morning.
I'm almost.
Yeah, I was like, do I even want to be in Manhattan tomorrow?
How hard is it supposed to ring?
Let's see.
I was like debating whether to go to this break because they were saying it's like, yo,
you don't get there super early, you won't even be able to see anything.
And I'm like, I'm not standing out there for hours.
I went to the game.
I was getting off.
So what do you do after the game after they went?
At first we were going to go out to celebrate,
but then we saw the energy at that.
area, we just got a little food.
Was that serious?
Yeah.
Like, everywhere, they were just driving around saying,
fuck you, cursing at every single person in the next jersey, and they were trying to
start fights.
Somebody shit is just, one SMD cuts all that, slows all that now.
No, what SMD gets you killed?
You got to try it one time.
Fuck my dick.
Dixen five.
You try.
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Well, we do have frying Wembe, but we already covered that, I guess. Yeah, Wembe sucks.
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Man, he's going to be good, but
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Alex asked a good question earlier. Alex said,
I don't know why you said this.
Alex said, why is this story everywhere?
I said, because it's fucking Jelly Roll.
Jelly Roll is a huge star. You never
know how big of a star you are until
something bad happened.
Yeah.
You know what I mean? It's our guy,
so it's like I didn't realize how big he is.
I know he won, like, the, like, the
biggest award in country music or whatever, but at the same time, why is every single
outlet covering the split? Because it's Jelly Roll. And Jelly Roll has been on a winning streak
for a long time. You know what I mean? So this is like the first thing that you're like,
ooh, some dirt on Jelly Roll. You know what I mean? And it's not even dirt. It's just like,
you know, he's getting a divorce, which is horrible to see, you know? Because him and his
woman been together for a long, long time. But, oh, man, it just comes with the territory, I guess.
I don't fucking know.
Meaning the negative press comes to the territory.
But it's not negative press.
It's just his life.
But I will say this.
I hate that jelly roll's going through this.
But boy, I know that music gonna be fire.
God damn, I know jelly roll is about to give us
some of the greatest music that we've ever heard in our lives.
And this is like, you know, you get into divorce,
You got your new body now, you know what I mean?
Like, Jelly going through a whole new renaissance.
Like, you know how we felt when Mary J. Blige was going through whatever she was going through?
Akeha Cole was going through whatever she was going through.
Jelly bought to give us some shit.
Some shit.
But they were...
We pray for you jelly.
He's the...
I mean, says here he had a son with another woman last week.
Who had a son with another woman?
What did TMZ Jelly Bowl?
No, no. I don't believe that.
No.
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that.
Let me see, what you see?
On top of the drama, one week for their wedding.
Oh, their wedding.
Yeah, come on, Chris.
Oh, but it said that.
It says on top of the drama, one week before the wedding,
Jelly Roll welcomed the son with another woman.
Right, but they were married in 2015, so I pushed up the time.
That don't mean nothing, no, because, I mean,
she had to know about that, right?
You know.
You know, you know.
I don't know, man.
Was he at the White House, dude?
I don't think so.
No?
I hope not.
No, I don't think so.
Okay, good.
Suit to jelly, man.
Prayers up for Big Jelly Roll.
What else we got, Chris?
We're just running through some things,
running through some all means necessary.
Ooh, let's play that.
Play Nikki Minaj on the Illuminati.
I should speak about you, Sean?
People do think I'm in the Illuminati.
I was just having this conversation.
Humanaity real?
My situation, it's very personal.
There definitely is a group of people
that have made things very difficult for me.
One person didn't really like me
and they happened to me in a powerful position,
and they were able to use their influence
to make people go against me.
However, it definitely has been spiritual.
Now, what they call themselves
and what they proclaim to be,
only they could tell you that.
Yeah.
But has it been a spiritual warfare?
Absolutely.
If anything ever happened, I'd slide for you.
I just want you to know that I would totally slide.
Luminati real?
My.
Jesus.
I don't know, man.
I ain't got to that level to know if the Illuminati is real or not yet.
But I do know that I have a comic book called Illuminati.
Yeah.
I put out five issues, and it may or may not be based on a true story.
And the full graphic novel will be out June 23rd, I believe it is.
So July 23rd?
I don't remember.
But it'll be out this summer.
Okay, but it's called Illuminati and look it up.
I don't understand what.
why people want to believe in secret societies.
Well, why would you put out comic books named after them? Maybe that's...
Because I'm playing with their emotion. What I mean when I say that is, if you look at something
like the Epstein Files, there's clearly some other shit going on. And they're going on,
I think, at... I think it's going on in those industries. This shit that's going on in the music
industry, I don't think that's no secret society. I think that is just some people who have amassed
some power, they've amassed some money,
they've amassed some influence,
and they might, you know,
create a world, you know, within a world,
but it don't have no real power.
They're not making no real world decisions about things.
Like, you know, somebody, you know, not liking you and, you know,
conspiring against you to tell all his people like,
you know, I don't fuck with that individual.
So now you're blackballed,
or they decide not to play your music,
or they decide, you know, like not to have you perform
at certain venues and stuff like that.
I don't know if that's like secret society shit
are just some people who got some power within the industry.
Yeah.
So I would say it's people with power,
but I think the whole secret society stuff
is it makes other people feel good
because it gives an explanation why.
They failed?
Yeah.
No, I agree with that.
People do want to justify their failures.
So, because I was, I did the Grinch and Eggs podcast earlier.
I was with Deonti Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat.
And we were talking and I was like, man, I remember back in 05-06 watching, you know,
videos about people in the industry being in the Illuminati and being like, oh, my God,
these motherfuckers are sick.
Like, look at the type of shit they do.
Now I'm starring in those videos 20 years later.
You know what I'm saying?
20 years later, I'm a star in these videos.
You motherfuckers think like there's some wicked secret society and you got to,
sacrifice gerbils and dudes suck X, Y, and Z to get to this place.
And it's just like, nah, shit ain't that deep, bro.
But then also you have some people lean into it.
So then it keeps that, you know, all this talk going.
If I lean into it, I'm leaning into it the same way I'm telling Victor
it wouldn't be honest to lean into being a hill.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm playing with people's emotions.
Like, you know, if these Algo bosses can monetize people's emotions on social media,
How come I can't monetize people's emotions when it comes to, you know,
selling a comic book called Illuminati?
It may or may not be based on a true story.
Read this comic book and then discuss it amongst your friends and, you know,
try to figure out if Charlemagne's revealing industry secrets or not.
I mean, have there been conspiracies in history?
Sure.
Are there conspiracies taking place right now as we speak?
Yes.
Sure.
Is there a singular organization that requires a secret?
membership to that is in charge of all those decisions or orchestrating all those conspiracies?
No, I mean, unlikely, right?
So you can't say no for certain, though.
Well, you know, you can't say no for certain because we know that there's something like the skull and crossbones club of Yale, right?
Which traditionally...
That's not a secret.
But, you know, it's not a secret because we know it, but the membership is a secret.
The initiation rights are secret.
secret, that part of it is secretive.
So there are...
I can go for any fraternity.
What? I can go for any fraternity, any sorority.
Their shit is a secret how they do their
initiations and their hazing and stuff like that.
Right, but it just means people do set up these sort
of infrastructures and these clubs.
But they're not secretive,
I'm saying. But I think
with a fraternity, you can
look up the members or the people who are...
Oh, what about freemasons? Can you look up
who's a freemason? I don't know. I don't think
you could. Well, listen, what about the American
fucking government? What about the Israeli
government. Like, you know what I'm saying?
We know all the elected officials and people like that. We just don't know the lobbyists.
No, we can look up to who the lobbyists are, though. But the most far, I'm just saying there's all
these conspiracies that happen within the government, right? Like, the CIA is not a secret society,
but they got bad secrets, shit that we don't know about. Yeah, I mean, I think what's different
with this error is a lot of the stuff you would have seen happening behind the scenes or being
secretive is happening right out front, right? Like, if there was one person who would be, you
in the Illuminati in the world right now, who's that person?
Elon Musk.
Exactly.
Yeah.
In the past, he would have been moving behind the scenes in the shadows.
This guy's really not trying to hide anything that he's doing.
None of them are.
Like, it's all out in front right now.
So do you even need an Illuminati right now?
See, I feel like the Rothschilds.
Yeah.
Because it's like they're not in the public and you know they still running a lot of stuff.
Yeah, but to,
the degree that they once did? I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of Elon shit smoking mirrors,
absolutely. But, you know, but he just did with space, you know, like, there's no
unfucking believable secret to that, right? Like, it's all happening out in front, which is
what feels different right now. Did you see this shit? Peter Thiel's secret society of 200 plus
elites just got leaked. Oh, is that the dialogue list? It's called dialogue. I didn't see who's on it.
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public website, no member list.
A researcher found 113 names hidden in
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YouTube CEO Neil Mohan,
Intuit co-founder, Scott Cook,
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Scott Bissent, Senator Ted Cruz, Army Secretary Dan Driscoll, NATO's top commander in Europe,
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The leaked agenda includes panels on coat building, sex, and prepping for World War III.
One session is titled, It's Fun to Be in Charge, an Associated App offers matchmaking.
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brokers, his own data just leaked.
A spokesperson for Teal did not respond to requests for comment.
Let me tell you something.
I can't lie.
I mean, if you were going to paint a picture of the Illuminati,
that's kind of what it would look like.
But that's my point.
How are these people like that, they exist, right?
But you think the head of the Illuminati is Jay-Zee.
That don't sound fucking insane.
Elon must just made a trillion dollars.
There's not a bar that Jay-Z could spit
that's more influential than what Elon Musk can do today
with a push of a boy.
But I could see people make the case for it.
I can't.
I never understood the line,
there's a secret society,
all we acts is trust.
That's not even his line.
That's from a movie or TV show or something.
What's that from him?
That's a for the show.
But as I'm saying, when you,
it's like you're playing with people
because if they think you're in a secret society
and then you're putting lines like that in your songs,
then it's like, all right, maybe it is.
It's the same thing like what you're doing with the book.
Flagrant crew is a secret society.
I mean, maybe we are.
Like who we are here, bro, this is a secret society.
We got things that we keep amongst each other.
I'm just saying why people can make a case for it.
I can't.
Like, it blows my mind when I see,
when I read stories like that,
but then you'll have somebody,
and I'm not saying this about Nikki, period,
but just people believe in that only the music industry
or hip-hop is the alumni.
No, what I just read to you is the actual real alumni.
The music industry is just a little,
lip on there. I'll put it to you like this. When I was working on books with Russell Simmons,
right? I'd go out with him in the Hamptons and he was hanging around with some real money guys,
like big, big money guys. And I was talking to one of them. I was like, you know, you guys
seem to like chilling with Russell. This is before all the controversy around Russell,
obviously. Meanwhile, they probably were doing worse than anything Russell knows, but they're kind of
like, I don't want to, a mascot sounds kind of derogatory. Like,
I'm not saying that like, but he was just kind of, it was cool to be able to say,
oh, there's this person from the music industry and he's around and it's kind of fun.
But like the level of influence and wealth and access between him and them was Blair.
It's not even close, man.
Like it, you would go with these guys and it was just like a whole different level.
And he knew that.
He was, he never thought he was on their level.
and he kind of knew what his role was to a degree.
But that's the role.
It's not equals.
Also, there's like a negative connotation with secret societies and it's just like, hey,
what if we just operating at different level and we get along with each other because
we're all at this level that you're not and do stuff that you can't relate to?
So it's like people outside, it looks like a secret society.
To us is just, hey, this is just our friend group.
Bro.
That's just, well, what it is.
Is it a group chat or is it a secret society?
Yeah, exactly.
The shit, the logic don't make no sense to me.
Like, I was even sitting back this week, like,
I'm watching everybody be mad at JZ, right?
You know, the fake outrage.
You know, people have JZ derangement syndrome.
It's actually insane to me.
But they're mad because he,
our reasonable doubt is coming out
as a Target vinyl exclusive.
Okay, I saw that, yeah.
But if you go on Target's website,
that's like the norm for,
every major artists.
Like, GNX was a Target vinyl exclusive.
Jay Cole, the Falloff, was a Target vinyl exclusive.
Taylor Swift has Target exclusives up there.
Fucking Nikki Minaj with Prink Friday had Target exclusives.
My point is, the boycott's been a year.
Jay Cole Falloff came out a couple of months ago.
Why didn't they get no smoke?
Yeah, that is weird.
Why is the smoke reserved for Jay?
Well, I can make the counter argument.
Okay, please.
The counter argument, I would think, would be he staked out more of a position as a social activist.
Kendrick and Cole?
Well, I would say Jay Z does more than Cole.
Jay Z does more, but nobody gives him credit for it.
Kendrick and Cole are actually the, especially Kendrick, they're like the symbols of social consciousness.
Right, but I associate him more with actual work and organizations and that sort of thing, right?
So I would say he's been more out front with that.
You could also make the argument.
He's reached a level of financial commercial success that they haven't.
He doesn't, quote, need it.
I would assume the way that maybe you could argue they still need that at this point in the other career.
I don't think none of them need it.
And then the creative thing is what makes it exclusive is the color.
It's because it's white.
Because the vinyl is actually white.
That's why it's called an exclusive.
Right.
So what the fuck is that?
It's coming out everywhere.
It's just.
Yeah, it's on, it's on Rock, the Rock, what is it, the Rock something website now?
I can't remember the exact website, but it's on the website now.
It's not even just exclusive to Target.
I would assume people are just saying we don't want him to fuck with Target, period, right?
But don't y'all think that's confused?
To me, this is the same, the irony of this situation is the same thing with the actual boycott to begin with.
Right.
Because Target wasn't the only company that got rid of his diversity, equity, and inclusion program,
Google, meta, Amazon,
Lowe's, McDonald's,
all of these different entities,
but you didn't boycott any of them,
but you just said,
hey, we're going to focus on Target.
These got to give me some logic behind that.
There's no logic.
We're all hypocrites.
I mean, it comes back to the conversation of,
we're all hypocrites just to what, you know,
I bitch and moan about all these organizations
celebrating Trump, propping up,
Trump, working with Trump, Trump.
I still, you know,
make my Amazon Prime order every day.
That's a little shop where I shop.
I'd like not to, right?
I'd like to somehow, like, divest myself
from all these places that I feel are funding this
and, you know, make me compromise.
But it's a real struggle.
And I think that's why so many people don't know
what to do in this moment,
because the reach of these corporations
is just tremendous right now.
Is it?
You're on meta every day.
Right.
Where these techno lords are literally monetizing
your emotions. The cloud capital is conflict. Do you think that they don't see a story like this
JZ target story and say, hmm, let's amplify that? That's got them going. That's got them, you know,
going back and forth for each other. That's what we need for the day. I'm telling y'all, read the
book, Technofutilism, what killed capitalism. The reason I even bought that up, though, is how do you
have more smoke and more fake outrage? And I'm putting fake, that's why I put it in the air quotes,
for Jay-Z, then you do,
Elon must be coming a fucking trillionaire this week.
It's not even the same conversation.
It's not even the same conversation,
but there's one you should really clearly be upset about.
One really, really should piss you to fuck off.
And it's not him having a fucking vinyl at Target, though.
Right.
Like.
That's like, unfortunately, our community tends to do that.
We tear each other down way more than we do anything else.
But-
bothers me so much.
I think two things.
With the Target, if I'm not mistaken,
not only did they remove the DEI stuff,
they also used to have like a section
of like black owned products
that they got rid of.
No, that's still there.
During the time they removed that,
I think that's,
I'm pretty sure they did.
I think that's why people were really outrage.
And then...
Because you had the people that had products there,
they were saying like, well, damn, what about us?
That's what they were saying to the people.
They was like, you know, y'all boycott and Target,
but we just got us up and stuff.
That's the irony, right?
Like, Target, and I know this from experience
because like loudspeakers did a lot of initiatives with himself.
They spent a ton of money supporting African American creators and makers,
you know, gave them shelf space, drove a lot of business to them.
And I had that conversation with some people where I'm like, all right,
they've pulled back from it.
But to your guys point, those people are still on the shelves,
they still need the business.
Aren't you kind of cutting off your nose to spite your face if you now pull out of this
because they've backed away from the larger initiative?
It was called like the makers or section or something like that.
Then a couple months ago,
Pastor Jamal Bryan said that the boycott was over.
Then he said the boycott wasn't over.
It was the fast that was over.
Which I didn't know what was the difference between the Target Fast and the Target Boycott.
Then Tamika Mallory and Nina Turner loved both of them.
That's my family.
They both said that the boycott still on.
Then you had the activist in Minnesota, the young ladies.
I can't remember their names.
The young ladies who started the boycott,
they said that it's still on.
Then they started beefing with Tamika, Nina, and Jamal.
So it's like, after at some point, all of it starts to look just unsurious.
So now the other thing is like, all right, where does this even start?
Because now that I'm understanding how this clipper stuff and how the internet works,
it's like, who's really motivating people to be upset at Jay-Z?
Like, who did Jay-Z piss all where they are, this is a,
targeted effort in to try to fuck over Jay-Z.
Where's it coming from?
Because it's not people upset that he put his record.
Don't open with Pandora's box.
Alex, now you understand what I'm saying.
These Algo bosses, these tech lords, they monetize our emotions.
The cloud capital is conflict.
I know they look at the internet and they see little things that might have a little
rumbling and they amplify them. I know this is what happens. Oh, so you don't even think,
I think that there's like somebody paying for people to make, maybe. I think it's a little bit
above. I think somebody could be paying to do it, but I also think that these people that work at
these companies know anything. That's why I keep telling you, I read this book,
Technofutalism, what killed capitalism. In the book, it talks about how where, where the actual
resource.
Every day they're mining us
for engagement
and for data.
So they got to keep us on these
apps for as long as fucking
possible. The way to do that
is conflict. You will sit
there and be arguing on your motherfucking
phone all day with a bunch of
people you don't fucking
know. That's how they keep
good shit. A bunch of people is the best case
scenario. More likely you're arguing
with bots. That's what I'm saying? You're right. You're right.
You're right, you're right, you're right. That's what the article that 50% of, you know, most, most people on social media now are bots. But my point is, there's somebody at these companies amplifying all of this shit that's going to keep us arguing with each other. That's how they keep us on these apps. That whole shit that they used to tell us about you can attract more flies with honey than you can do with vinegar. Bullshit. The vinegar keeps us on fucking social media. That's what we, that's what we like. We like that bit of shit.
shit. That shit, it's actually really crazy to watch. Like, you heard of, um, oh, what's the shit called?
Cursor. Cursor. Michael Truel, the 25-year-old CEO of Cursor. Space X bought them yesterday for $60 billion in stock. He's 25-year-old.
years old.
SpaceX bought him for
$60 billion in stock yesterday.
He's got an AI company.
Not one Illuminati Roma.
Not one gay Roma.
Nobody's in an outrage
about, you know,
him being a capitalist and him not caring
about his community. None of that.
White guy, 25 years old.
60 billion.
With a meet.
You can take
Jay-Z 10 times.
Rihanna.
10 times, put their wealth together,
and they still don't got 60 billion in stock.
But who gets all
the rumors placed on them?
Who gets slandered on social media
for weeks at a time?
Well, whoever that kid is
also hasn't put himself out to the public
the way they Jay Z and Rihanna have.
Jay Z and Rihanna don't say shit.
No, but their public...
The equivalent would be like if
who's like
fucking white country star.
Okay. Well, let's go back.
Okay.
Your fair point, Chris.
What about the guy who bought them?
Who bought who?
Space exes, who bought him?
Elon Musk is always in the public eye.
He just made a trillion dollars.
Why is he not getting his ass handed to him this week?
I feel he gets a lot of Chris.
No.
They've tried to hand him his ass.
It doesn't matter.
You know why?
Because he could just change the fucking algorithm.
Turn that shit off.
They're talking about me.
How dare y'all get on my?
How dare y'all get on my app and talk shit about me while y'all driving in your Teslas?
Matter of fact, make their Tesla not start for a couple hours.
Make the drain their battery real quick.
Press the off boy.
Make that shit not crank today.
The fucking, like, I just want you to think about the hypocrisy.
You're sitting in your Tesla on fucking X complaining about capitalists, and usually the capitalists you're complaining about are the black ones.
Meanwhile, you continue to make these technological knowledge rich as fuck.
I wish Rich was the end of it.
I mean, he's the most dangerous man in the world right now.
His influence is so, so incredible right now.
And, you know, I don't even know where to begin with.
I mean, you know, that whole Dodge thing is looking like...
Doge.
Doge, whatever the fuck it is.
That's the biggest disaster in American history.
You know, like, I do let this fucking guy in there to fucking go crazy for three months
and then pretend it never happened,
and then he gets the fucking biggest IPO in the world
fucking a year later,
and like nobody's connecting the dots
or worried about what it means.
Chris, mind-boggling.
Chris, this man put up $250 million for Donald Trump's campaign.
That we know of.
That we know of.
Use X to amplify maga messaging
and suppress other messaging.
Right.
And two years later, he's a trillion.
Just crazy.
What the thing?
It's, it's, it's, it's,
Are we retarded?
Yes.
Are we, are we, you know, can nobody just connect that simple dot?
I got this man elected.
He gave me a, let's take another step back.
I got this man elected.
He gave me first dibs.
Hey, yeah, here, Elon, take your chainsaw, go do what the fuck you need to do.
Right.
Take, he took a chainsaw to the federal government.
Right.
Because he paid for that.
It was obviously, in retrospect, a smokescreen for something else.
a diversionary tactic.
I still don't know what he did
in reality. I suspect
it was somehow fucking manipulate
the voting process
and we're going to get the fucking bill for that
in November is what I predict.
No, I thought he just has so
every person in America's information.
Probably has everything. That's too.
So, so many number, every...
Like, he probably has everything.
That's a great point, Chris. What the fuck
was that about?
What the... Do you think he really cared about,
you know, killing $15 million
worth of research in Uganda?
and $20 million for pediatric cancer.
He doesn't give a fuck one way or the other.
That's what really struck me this weekend.
You got to remember, this guy rose as a progressive hero, right?
He rode that wave.
He manipulated that narrative.
I'm creating these electric cars.
They're going to save the environment.
I'm environmental.
He wrote that for as long as it was worthwhile for him.
He tricked me.
And then he fucking threw that shit away.
Yeah.
And then he rode the, oh, I'm an economic reformer.
I'm going to fucking save America money because I'm going to apply.
my out bullshit.
That was about something else.
We still don't know
what it was really about.
Whatever information he got
and made him a trillionaire.
And to your point,
who knows
what else is going to come
at that in the future.
But where's the outrage?
Think about the shit
the Manosphere guy.
They're still on Rogan and Choate
and Theo Vaughn's head
for getting the president elected.
There's nobody who had
was more instrumental
in getting the president elected.
than Elon Musk
and we made him a trillionaire.
We rewarded him.
We rewarded him.
And don't say you didn't
because you're on X every day
and he's monetizing your emotions.
Okay?
Every day.
Every single day.
He's mining attention
and data from you.
I want you to think about it like you're a mine
and how you can get diamonds from a mind.
That's what we are every day with social media.
Our emotions.
He's using conflict to do it.
attention, our data, and we willingly have given it to me. Every single one of them. I don't go on.
I haven't been on X since 2018. You are on that digital plantation picking digital cotton
for free every day. And the only way that we'll be able to overthrow the technologes is by disconnected.
All right. You're on the other stuff though. You're on the YouTube. I'm on Instagram. I'm not acting
like I'm not. I'm a crackhead. I'm deleting. The only one I have left is Instagram.
Instagram is the only one I have left to.
you got to deactivate you can't just delete we know that one step of the time yeah no we know that
yeah I'd be honest which is kind of pointless for you to do it at this point because they already got
all your data and everything they didn't have my data there's nothing exciting going on I'm worried
about the emotional toll like I have to leave my daughter at home she's nervous about staying by herself
she's talking about she's going to go on her ADHD medication while we're gone I was like
you don't need to go on fucking medication to make sure you're more focused and organized
you need to get off your fucking phone.
Get off your phone.
That's what's scrambling your fucking mind.
I was like,
the idea that like to lock in,
you need medication where
this is what's fucking stealing your focus.
This is what's causing anxiety.
Anxiety, depression.
This is what's freaking you out about the world.
That's right.
Like, that's got to be the first step.
And if that doesn't work and you got to take
something for ADHD,
okay, let's talk about that.
But the fact that that's your first step,
it's killing me, man.
I read, I read, uh, digital minimalism by Kyle Newport, damn near a decade ago.
I read, uh, from the internet to the internet, how to, I think how to disconnect from the
internet to reconnect with your soul, basically.
And the things that these guys were talking about damn near a decade ago, it's gotten
progressively worse.
Like, and I had Kyle on Breakfast Club and I had, I think Cal might even did bring
this, but he definitely did my, um, TV show.
I want to talk to them again because I feel like things are worse than, you.
they even predicted, then they even imagined that they would be.
Because they weren't talking about things like techno-futilism.
They were comparing what's going on on social media to like the tobacco industry.
And they were talking about the addictiveness of it all, right?
But now we're talking about capitalism evolving into this entity called techno-futalism.
And that is scary.
I'm going to read y'all the actual definition of techno-feudalism.
before we move on and pay some bills.
Technofutalism is a concept suggesting that capitalism
has been replaced by a new economic system
where big tech companies function like medieval feudal lords.
Instead of land, these tech giants control digital platforms,
algorithms, and networks,
extracting rent from users and smaller businesses
who rely on them to survive.
That's where we are at this point.
And the only way to overthrow these technical laws,
if it's not too late, is by disconnected.
And, you know, when I did Gritch's Eags earlier
and I was having this conversation with Mouse this weekend,
Sloop the Mouse, he was saying,
well, how are we supposed to get messaging out without social media?
And I said the same way we got it out before social media,
through books, through radio, through podcasts now,
in art.
We forget about art.
We forget about books and we forget about art.
You know how much I learned from reading?
You know how much I learned from watching movies?
How Much I Learn from Watching Films?
There's a fantastic movie coming up called How to Rob a Bank.
Okay.
And Pete Davidson is in it.
Zoe Kravitz is in it.
A dude who plays Lex Lutha.
I can't remember his name.
he's in it. And the movie is about these
crew of people who start robbing
banks, they record all of their heists, and then they
produce their heist and put them out on YouTube. And the series is called
How to Rob a Bank. Oh, I think we're in it. I think
flagrant. Definitely in how to rob a bank.
A hundred percent flagrant is in How to Rob a Bank. That's actually a really
good scene. But the movie is just showing how
they're not really robbing the bank. They're
getting revenge on the system. It shows you how if you don't take care of the least of us,
the least of us will eventually rebel against you. Every single person in that movie has a
reason to do what it is that they're doing. Pete Davidson is a army veteran who has lung cancer
and he's got a young child. He came back from Afghanistan, didn't have nothing. This country
gave him a fuck you. So he's giving this country a fuck you back. The other couple has a child,
I think that died because of health issues at four years old,
but you end up rooting for these people throughout this whole movie.
And it shows how what they were doing just became a trend in society.
Because I'm paraphrasing here, but there's a part in the movie where they're like,
you got a better chance of robbing a bank and getting money
than you do of living this so-called American dream
and having a livable wage in this country.
And the movie looks like it's based on actual data and statistics.
That shit is great, yo.
It's like, I think they used to either live streamed the bank heist or they were like recorded and put it out as a YouTube video.
They would live screen some of them and then record the other ones, but they produced it as a TV show.
So they would, they would, they would, no, some of them were live screen, some of them were.
One of them was definitely a live screen, but they produced.
They record it and they produce it
And put it out on YouTube
This shit is dope
Like it was a very, very, very dope movie
I forgot why I even started talking about that
You saw it already
I did, I saw it, I saw it last week
Actually
But why the fuck we started talking about it?
I don't remember
All I'm simply saying is
Oh, yes
Disconnecting, art
That is a movie
That has messaging
through art.
Like it's teaching you about
how wicked this capitalist
system is and what is
going to be the end result
if we don't start
taking care of the least of us.
It's only a matter of time before
people rebel.
And I'm telling you something, America,
it's going to be white people.
I'm telling you that right fucking now.
Are we the ones rebelling
or are we getting rebelled against?
Y'all are rebelling.
Because
This is working-class white people.
Huh?
Working-class white people.
Working-class.
By even middle-class, because there's no middle-class any.
There's no middle class anymore.
Like at some point, there's going to be middle-class white people who realize that their life is changing and they're like, wait a minute.
But white people have a very difficult time identifying who's actually keeping them down.
No, they don't.
Who rated the capital?
When they thought that their democracy was being stolen through voting?
Right.
That's my entire point.
That wasn't the actual.
enemy in that case. Who killed the United Healthcare CEO? Well, that's, that's, that's, that, who, who was, who, who was, who was taking, who has taken, who has taken multiple shots at the president of the United States of America? I'm saying, for the most part, the mass of white people, especially working class white people, vote against their own self interests, act against their own self-interest. That's historically always been the case. And there's a lot who don't. And so what I'm asking folks now, whenever I see any of these crazy,
stories, whether it's Epstein files, whether it's what's going on Iran, Israel. I don't want to hear
nothing. I got one simple question, what are white people going to do about it? What are white
people going to do about it? This is your country and you see your country changing and it's
something that I don't even think you want because the reality is democracy is democracy
and people who have of who know what democracy is and felt democracy want to hold on.
to that. When they see that shit
being sold,
just literally sold to
the Technolords, the other countries,
at some point there's going to be a mass
rebellion and it's going to come from white people.
I don't
feel it coming anytime soon.
Chris, it's already happening.
This is happening in small waves.
And it's how to rob a bank movement
and other art like it.
The Technolords, I mean, yeah, they're a problem,
but, you know, they're
trans people using
women's bathrooms.
Chris, we got to stop.
Chris is being sarcastic.
I want anybody.
No, but like, seriously.
Chris is being sarcastic.
And like, there are,
there are immigrants eating dogs.
Chris is being sarcastic, y'all.
No.
Chris is being sarcastic.
If you knew the brilliant idiots
and you don't understand Chris's anger.
Yes, you are.
Serious fucking issues,
Chris, you're white and Jewish.
They're going to think you're doing.
No.
Chris said that.
They don't think you're being honest right now.
They're immigrants stealing
money places, man.
Chris is being sarcastic.
This is sarcastic.
So like, let's take this one step at a time, man.
So imagine you went into a fucking bathroom.
And there's a trant, like, I can't worry about a fucking feudal lord, man.
There's somebody in the bathroom.
But they won a fucking medal up my kid's swim meet, man.
You know how fucked up that is?
With the Chris's point, those issues are easier to grasp on it.
It's easier to get people ride up about that.
She trained really fucking hard, man.
It wasn't fair.
I give me Chris' saying.
It's easier to.
get people outraged. She would have gotten third place.
No, I'm serious, man. It's fucked up.
My daughter would have gotten third place
at the fucking local swim meet.
Third, she would have got a bronze. She would have gotten a
fucking bronze medal. She cried, man.
She cried after that meet. I didn't know what to tell her.
How could I tell her that the other kid
had a penis? How could I tell her that?
It's easier to get people worked up and outraged over stuff like that
because they can understand it more.
They don't understand what's really going
But that's why this movie, like,
How to Rob and Bank is very, very, very good.
Speaking to that...
But if there was any credibility to that story,
you saw there was a terrorist plot
on that whole UFC event.
Yes, three people.
Yeah.
They stopped three people from fucking blowing that shit up,
and they said they only wanted to do it.
They wanted to take out the rich and the elite.
Well, they got half of it.
Yeah.
I'm just, that's all...
I'm just saying, like, if...
And by the way, it's not...
I'm not even going to sit here and say,
if, when...
because they ain't shit going to change.
But you're not encouraging that
because they try to twist your words up
and make it seem like you're encouraging that type of stuff.
I'm not encouraging it doesn't.
I'm just telling you what the,
what is actually going to happen in this society.
It's already happening.
We're watching it happen.
It's going to be more of it.
The more economically stressed people get,
you know, the more people can't take care
of their basic needs.
I know that they're hoping
that everybody just bows down
and take this universal basic income that they start giving folks to pacify them.
No, people are not going to go for that because too many people are going to die
way before that happens.
Too many people are not going to have health care and not going to be able to go to the hospital
and take care of their basic deeds and they're going to fucking die.
Too many people are going to get evicted and be homeless on the street before any of that happens.
There is going to be a massive revolt at some point, and it's going to be white people
who lead the charge.
I'm going to be leading the way.
I'm going to grab that fucking bronze medal that my daughter fucking deserves.
I'm going to put it around her neck.
I'm going to say, God, God, bless fucking America.
And then things are going to be better.
Oh, God.
Let's pay some bills.
This is brilliant idiots.
This is jokes, guys.
Jokes.
I'm not joking.
You need that.
Chris is.
Chris is being a duck.
I'm not joking.
Nah, I got to admit, I got to take an L.
I underestimated how serious some of this.
it was. I was
I'm sorry. Is that camera
on? Is this fucking film? Yes. I'm sorry
America. I didn't understand.
I didn't understand, man.
When that tear dripped down, my daughter's
fucking cheek at the swim meet.
What could I tell her? Jesus Christ.
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Netflix thank you man I love being
live on Netflix every morning
if you haven't heard the breakfast club is live on Netflix
every day 6 a.m.
to like 915, 920 like you know
the whole show screams live even
the behind the scenes so even when we're not on air
you see myself and DJ NVNV
and Jess Alarious and Lauren LaRosa
just you know cutting up in the studio with the producers
and everybody else so thank you to everybody
that's been watching, man.
We appreciate y'all.
Little John's book will be out in October.
It's available for pre-order now, so go do that.
I'll send you a hall book still available
everywhere you buy books right now.
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Oh, life is good.
Alex, what you got?
I got a few events actually going on this summer.
My first one is the Showcase Comedy Show.
I do every month.
It's called Canceled Comedy.
That's going to be on June 24th here in the city.
Some of the people we got on there is Catlin.
Palufo, Jay Jarden, Mark Norman, Natalie Cuomo, Sam Jay, Vic Sott. Yeah, we got like a lot of funny guys.
I'm producing it. We put out clips from the show. That is June 24th. And then the following month,
July 25th, I do a tennis clinic where I basically rent out four courts here in the city.
We have all, we have a bunch of coaches, all different skill levels. So if you've never picked up a tennis
court, I mean, a racket, or if you're pretty good, we have the skill level for you.
and yeah, that's just a fun day.
We have music, giveaway, food,
all that type of stuff
that also is here in the city.
That is at
the all-love racket club.com.
That's where you can get your tickets for that.
And then, yeah, tune in every Sunday at 11 a.m.
My show A.m. mornings.
It's a live call-in show I do.
We talk about news, pop culture,
how's that going?
It's really fun.
I have a nice little community growing.
Like, people actually tune in live,
and then if you can't tune in live,
you can just watch the next day
on either Spotify or YouTube.
Do.
Yeah, it's really cool.
You got to call in one of these days.
I'm trying to find a good topic for you.
Man, I'll be sleeping on Sunday morning.
Sunday morning?
I mean 11 a.m.
show.
We run two hours.
You'll be up by.
Bro, that's a lot.
All right.
Well, no, 11 a.m.?
I'll be up by 11 a.m.
Unless I sleep in, I'll be up by 11 a.m.
For the most part.
But, yeah, it's a really fun show.
A.m. mornings.
You can catch us on YouTube and Spotify.
All right.
Let's do some asking idiots, man.
Let's do some asking idiots, mate, since it's just me here and no Hezekiah Walker, ah?
Oh, Chris, did you see this shit about, uh, um, damn, I just lost it.
How Jeffrey Epstein said, owner's rat?
Yeah, how he, um, he, he, he said that he, uh, had a bunch of stuff on Trump,
and he was, he was using it to keep himself out of jail.
Yeah, it said newly uncovered notes suggest Jeffrey Epstein believed he had damaging information about Donald Trump and during Trump's first term tried using that information to avoid prison.
Man, oh man.
Hmm.
That bet.
You got, you're a historian, Chris.
Is there ever been a president that has been discompromised by so many different people?
Not even remotely.
Not even remotely.
Damn.
Who you think had him?
Who you think had more control?
Hold, talking to the mic, Chris.
You think, oh.
Recording.
Yeah.
I stand by everything I just said.
Okay.
He said, Chris said, not even close.
So who had him first?
I believe the Russians had him first.
The Russians had him first.
I believe the Russians basically propped him up to a degree.
They never thought it would work.
Right.
I mean, look, even if you take out Trump's moral or lack of morals out of the
equation, right? Because I think that's ultimately how they compromised them. Just the amount of
financial corners he backs himself into over his career, where he builds things up and
trashes them and goes bankrupt and has to rebuild it and get new funding. He was constantly on the
hunt for money. Who's been flush to give money to whoever wants it at a price? Damn. Over the last
25 years. Damn. The Russians. Also the Chinese, but mainly the Russians. And if you look at, I believe
Deutsche Bank, the bank that's bailed him out a lot of times over the years that has ties to the Russians,
it starts to add up. And then, I don't know, let's say you're a guy who's best friends with a
known sex criminal. Pedophile pimp. Pimp. I don't know what your own particular tastes and
habits are, but would it be outrageous to suggest that you're attracted to younger women?
I'm not saying children, but I'm just saying you have a history of dating younger women.
Russia is always quick to provide what's known as honeypots.
Younger women that compromise, older, richer men who lack discipline in that area, let's say.
So who did Epstein work for?
That's what I.
Who was he?
I think Epstein worked for Epstein.
Like, I don't buy necessarily the narrative that he was a Mossad agent that was sent here on a mission to compromise.
all these rich Americans.
I think it is certain...
That's all just happened by...
No, no, no.
And obviously, I don't know.
None of us know.
But my guess is that it is certain...
I think Epstein was going to do
what Epstein did regardless.
I think Epstein was a guy
who always wanted to be around beautiful women
and lots of money,
just to be a complete reductionist,
just to take it down.
He wanted to be around power.
He wanted to be around money.
He wanted to be around beautiful women,
young women.
And over time, he figured out
how to court those
of relationships and leverage those sorts of relationships.
And he understood that there are a lot of really rich guys out there who, one of their,
maybe many Achilles seals is one to be around young, attractive women.
And he figured out how to leverage it.
And then at a certain point, I think a masad, but maybe also other intelligence agencies,
notice what's going on because they have tentacles everywhere and they know about this shit
and they're watching the same people and they say, this guy might not be,
a bad asset right here. He's already doing it. And then if you want to get really conspiratorial,
if that's a word, then maybe he's a little more prone to work with a Mossad because he's Jewish
and because he has those connections and there's a cultural affinity, whatever you want to call it.
That's all within the realm of possibility. Sure, I don't think that they constructed him would be
my guess. I think they identified him for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we'd be. But we'd be.
do that. I mean, every country does that, right? You know, England goes around historically over the
years and they identified people in different countries that could be useful to them. And then
the fire is already going a little bit and then they throw a little bit of gas on it and give that
personal law and then they build it up. But like, they don't generally create people wholesale from
scratch, if that makes sense. So you think it's Russia, Epstein, then B.B. Netanyahu.
Well, you know, you mean in terms of how, like how, like, he's being manipulated.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not.
We know it.
We know it was definitely those three entities, right?
Right.
But what in what order did they happen?
Well, obviously, Epstein happened first because Epstein and Trump had a relationship way predating his presidency.
Got you, got you, got.
They were friends by both of their admissions.
They were best friends.
Got you.
All right.
So that relationship predates Trump in politics in this sort of way.
You know, I think what's interesting that's going to happen now is you're seeing a lot of people on the right.
on the right, you know, people traditionally in media outlets in Israel that have supported
Bibi, they're turning against Trump now because they don't like the deal. Or, you know,
this thing's not even a deal. To call it a deal is generous, but they don't like the proposed
deal. And now the right-wing media platforms in Israel are starting to attack Trump. And you've
also seen Trump start to attack Bibi a little bit. You've seen those leaks about Trump went off
on Bibi Net and Yahoo. I always feel like all of that's for show, though. I always
feel like, I could see Trump being like, look, I got to like throw some shots of your way right
now.
I'm losing ground at home.
Just eat it.
And you'll still get what you want in the long run.
Yeah.
I could see a scenario like that.
Trump versus BB, I got Israel and five.
I'll tell you that right now.
I got Israel and five.
But they still rely on us for a lot.
Nah, buddy.
Nah, because we keep forgetting one thing.
You keep saying us.
Trump keeps saying me.
Oh.
And, you know, if he got a, if it's between saving himself and the American people,
guess who President Donald Trump is going to choose every single time.
Right. President Donald Trump.
And I think that somebody like Mimi Nanyahu knows that.
So whatever they got on him, boy, must be good.
All right, let's do some asking idiots, man.
Let's do some asking idiots, man.
Some asking idiots, mate.
Some asking idiots.
Eugeneius Williams says, do you ever get tired of the false narratives put out about you by other media platform?
Wow, Eugeneus Williams.
Fantastic question.
Do I ever get tired of the false narratives put out by other media platforms?
Yes.
The answer, of course, to that would be yes.
Like, who wants to constantly hear false narratives put out, you know, about you?
on other media platforms.
But I don't get tired of them enough to try to correct them
because I'm fully aware that nobody cares about the truth
when the lie is more entertaining.
And like I said earlier, it's funny when you go from, you know,
2004, 2005, 2006 being online reading about the Illuminati
and reading about these people that y'all thought
were these larger than life figures
who just was controlling so many things
and I believed a lot of that shit
in 05-06 and like I said,
20 years later, I'm starring
it. I'm starring it
in a lot of those
YouTube videos about the Illuminati.
So I want to start
one day. That's what I'm saying. I'm about
to say that. It's flattering in a way.
It's flattering that I guess
I've accomplished enough
to where
people have to say I'm in the
Illuminati.
Yeah.
I have to be doing something nefarious to be in the position that I'm in.
Well, let me ask you this.
I'll quote, who I get a kick out of.
Charlemagne shouldn't care that people criticize him or I'm attacking him or breaking
his stuff down.
That's what's supposed to happen when you reach a certain level.
I agree that.
And you should just be happy and let us have fun because that's all this is for us.
We're just having fun.
I think he's like, we're in the internet dungeon or I forget what the term.
he used was he's like, just let us fucking throw around our theories.
And, you know, why should you even give a shit, basically?
Because I'm creating content too.
Okay.
And I got a platform too.
So that's what everybody hopes, right?
They hope that, all right, I'm going to say these things.
I'm going to say these things.
He's probably not even going to see it.
And if he does say it, he's not going to say nothing.
But if he said something.
But what if I decide to actually say something?
Then what?
You know what I'm saying?
like, like, then what?
And some things need to be discussed.
And if I do discuss them, trust me,
it's not because I'm, you know, fed up
of what y'all talking about.
I'd rather y'all talk than not see anything.
You know what I mean?
Like I, I would rather y'all sit around
and discuss every day that I've fallen off
as opposed to not talk about me at all.
Oh, really?
Yes, because the people who've really fallen off
don't get discussed.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if you've really,
if you're really not, you know, relevant,
like a lot of these videos like to say I am,
then you wouldn't discuss me at all, you know?
And I'm fully aware that I'm also fully aware
that sometimes if you're truly doing this life thing right,
if you're truly growing and evolving
the way that you're supposed to,
people shouldn't recognize you anymore.
Like, you should completely motherfucking change to them.
Like, if they're still stuck where they were
and they haven't grown,
and they haven't evolved,
you can't recognize growth and evolution
in somebody else.
And maybe you might recognize
the growth and evolution
and don't like it.
That's fine too.
Like, I don't have no problem with that either
because I feel like that's what life is about.
Like, y'all think you should constantly grow,
you should constantly evolve,
and some people you're going to lose,
some people you're going to gain.
But the real moral of the story is,
are you happy at the end of the day?
Like, to answer your question,
you, genius, William,
the reason this shit really don't bother me
because nobody can tell me about me.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I wake up with me every day,
go to sleep with me every night.
I've lived every single waking minute with me.
I know what's true.
I know what's not true.
You cannot tell me about me.
But, you know.
That's why I don't get tired of the false narratives
that the host of this show says about me,
but it's okay to be gay.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
People call me gay all the time.
Like, like,
Dame Dash goes on every single platform he can to call me gay,
but that's because he got a crush on it.
So you got a crush on me, that?
No.
I mean, that's the logic.
You go with it.
Not at all.
Not at all.
What else we got?
Oscar B. Savage on him.
Ooh, the lowest point and how did you overcome it?
Fantastic question, Oscar B. Savage.
The lowest point and how did I overcome it?
I'm going to tell you something, my asking, it's very hard to say that I've had a lowest point.
And the reason is very hard to say that I had a lowest point because whatever point I was in,
I was in that point because God wanted me to be in that point for that moment.
And when I look back on it, it actually wasn't low at all.
It was just a transition period.
You know, when I think about low points, it has nothing to do with anything professional.
and things to do with me personally.
And that's just how I might have been feeling,
you know, and about a depression
or, you know, dealing with some anxiety
that I couldn't get out of.
You know, shit, I was in a low point
a couple of weeks ago.
Because of that fucking that,
I had to get off the peptide, you know.
Really?
What?
Wait, well, which one are you taking out?
I stopped the NAD.
Which one was I, which one did you stop?
The NED?
Why did you stop it?
Well, one they just say that you just do.
it for like six weeks.
Yeah, and then you're supposed to lower the dose
and I just stopped doing it because it's shit.
Wanted to go there for two hours?
It's like...
Oh, that's the NAB.
I only did that once.
I only did that once.
I'm telling, no, I was taking the pills and I stopped those,
but then I was doing the shot.
I don't know if it was the CJC 1295 maybe,
or maybe the enclovermene, sorry.
Long story, short, that shit had me angry as a motherfucker.
Really?
What?
Because I was wondering, I'm like, why the fuck am I so mad?
Like I would be getting mad at like the smallest shit
Aggravated or man
Like mad like like and like this
Like at dumb shit like not
And like not it wasn't test like steroids testosterone
Because that shit makes you bad
Bro I don't know I think so
Whatever it was I had to say to myself like
Because I was thinking I'm like yo what the fuck is going on
Like my life is great like I'm not really pissed off at anybody in particular
Like what's fuck is happening and I had to think about it
I'm like yo I bet you it's some fucking peptide
And then I started doing research on
hold on i got it right here i started doing research on the particular
peptide i was using and that shit had all the motherfucking symptoms
like anger suicidal ideations
all of that type of shit
the g lp1 that's the skinny drug you want a skinny shot
i ain't no skinny shot yes it is that's the same thing it's different versions of gLP1
is it GLP 1 is like the brand like Nike but then it's like well GLP 1's a type of a drug
yes exactly yeah I'm microdosing that shit but that's the one really you're skinny yeah
anger depression anxiety well that shit ain't worked for me that shit ain't caused me to lose no weight
that shit just has me mad anger depression anxiety and especially thoughts of suicide have been
reported by some people taking GLP 1 medications although researchers have definitively
definitively established that the drugs although researchers have not definitively
established that the drugs themselves are the cause.
Listen, they haven't done enough research on a lot of these peptides yet.
I'm telling you, if somebody who was on them all year long, I had all of that shit.
Careful.
That's why I, and as soon as I got off, it's like the light switch went off.
Like, yeah, I'm like, oh, okay, I'm back feeling like me now.
Yeah, this stuff is too early.
I'm just waiting for everybody around me to beat a guinea pigs, and then I'll figure out
we're in a no-man's land right now.
The GPL ones with the peptides, with the weed,
truthfully.
I haven't been on that all you,
right? And also, what's the shit
they sell in the gas stations?
Tony goat weed?
What, no, the croton.
Cranem.
Cranem.
Yeah.
What the fuck is that?
They call it like a gas station heroin
or something like that, but it's just...
There's a natural version that
now the Trump administration,
who's the fucking senator from Oklahoma,
malarkey, whatever the fuck his name is?
He's trying to push for that,
and then they're trying to outlaw the
synthetic version.
But apparently, like, there are lots of people
who are going to get addicted on this stuff.
And there's no research on any of this stuff, basically.
I didn't want that shit.
That should have me paranoid.
Like, I thought I was having a real break.
I was like, holy shit, what the fuck is going on?
Just old-fashioned eat right exercise.
Eat right exercise.
I mean, that's what I do anyway.
You know what I mean?
But I'm just saying, like, and I've been on it all year.
So I started in January, and I should have took a break,
but I didn't.
So I've been on all here.
But now I'm like, get that shit the fuck away from me.
What else we got?
Let's do a couple more.
Empty chair text says if an alien invasion happened,
who would you send up from each race to the aliens
that represent each race?
What the, I don't fucking know, man.
Yeah, we can do this.
Huh?
Huh?
You can do this.
Who?
Who?
People.
You're going to say Tom Brady.
No.
I'm going to say somebody else.
Who am I going to say?
I wouldn't say, I'm going to be honest.
I don't know who I would sing because I don't even think
that I would send anybody based on race.
I really wouldn't.
I think I would send them based on
behavior that I've seen over the years.
Who are the most empathetic people?
Who are the most intelligent people?
You know, who are the people that I know
would go up there and not feel like,
hey, man, I want to colonize your shit
or take your shit.
I want to feel like I'm more superior than you.
Who's going to go up there and actually try to have olive branches
and, you know, create a bond with these aliens.
I think this new Pope is good.
He seems empathetic.
Too religious.
I like Larry David as kind of a wild card.
I feel like to go up there and, like, keep it light.
He's going to make a joke that pisses him off.
He's good at showing both sides.
I like him.
I'm definitely sending Michelle Obama.
Who's that girl on the spectrum that goes on those low-to-the-boats?
Yeah, Greta.
Very empathetic.
I'm definitely sending Michelle Obama.
Right.
Might send Daphne Joy
because she's always down
for a good time.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know what the aliens are into.
But if Daphne Joy go,
I'm serious,
Daphne Joy might go up there.
Take me a second.
I'm just saying like,
like it just feels like that seat.
Definitely Michelle Obama, though.
I can't really think of too many people
that I can go trust
and talk to fucking alien,
that would have everybody's best interest
in mind.
I cannot think of too many people.
What about Bernie?
No, man.
Maybe.
Bernie might go up there and see all that tech
and wonder how much that shit costs
and then start talking about
cosmic capitalism with some shit like that.
Like, I don't know, yo.
I feel like, you know why I like Michelle Obama
and this is going to sound crazy
because she is a former first lady?
She seems apolitical.
She don't seem like she's a part of any party.
She just seems like a person who cares about
what's right.
That's what I, that's what I,
I get from it.
You know, even when I heard her talk the other day
and she was talking about how,
why certain people voted for Trump.
I thought she was right on the money
with what she was saying.
Like, I'm not discrediting, you know,
racism and white supremacy,
but I do think that some people just felt hopeless
and some people was just looking
for some type of change.
And they bought the con that he was selling.
They bought the dream that Trump was selling them.
So I think that's a,
when I can look at somebody who I know is,
when I hear somebody who I know is disgusted
at the way things,
are disgusted that he's in the White House,
would still have empathy for how he got there
because of the people who voted for him.
I'm like, she's different.
Shell Obama's different.
Mandami.
No.
Why not?
He did great with Trump.
Yeah.
He's actually good.
He sent him into the lines then.
He handled it.
He's smooth.
I like Mandat.
I'm starting to believe the hype, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm trying to feel the hype.
There might be something there.
He's New York centric.
He wins in New York in L.A.
But his instincts are spot on.
He played the Nick's shit correctly, man.
You know how many mayors would have tried to be in the front row
sitting next to fucking Chalamee and Ben Stiller
and in the locker room and all that shit?
He hung out at local bars.
He sat up in the fucking nosebleed.
He's a Democratic socialist.
He figured out.
Trump Keekeying right next to him.
Yeah, he's a Social Democrat or Democratic Socialist
because I just learned from Assam Piker that they're different.
I don't know.
Because he always, Assan calls himself a Democratic
socialist and I'm like, I always say that I would identify as that until I realized, no, I would
identify as a social Democrat.
And I always say social Democrat, but he said Democratic Socialist.
So what is, because people liking Democratic Socialists to Communists.
I think he's a Democratic socialist.
Mondani.
Yeah.
I think he says he is.
I think Mondani is New York specific, y'all.
I don't think so.
No, I think if anything, he's not that New York, but he figured out how to, I think he could do this
in L.A.
And that's why I said New York and L.A. are probably the only two places that he could get it done.
But I think he's very, very New York specific.
He's the hot guy in his market.
You know, sometimes you go to a city and it's a rapper there that's like the guy in his city, but nobody else knows him anyplace else.
But the crazy thing is that he's the local New York guy that everybody across the country is like root and full.
I don't know about that.
Yes.
I go places and people like, at least I got a good mayor.
They don't say much.
There's a lot of great men.
I mean, there's a lot of great mayors throughout the country, though, man.
You got Brandon Scott and Baltimore does a phenomenal job.
But making waves the way that Mondani.
I mean, I, listen, I'm not knocking Mondani.
He's the mayor of the biggest city in the world.
Salute to him.
I just don't know if it translates outside in New York City.
We talk about the aliens.
I'm sending him today.
Yeah, I don't know if I'm sending him the aliens.
I'd rather send him and I don't want to lose the show.
Can we send him to South Carolina first?
Start him there.
See how he does in South Carolina first.
to the aliens, Mondani?
Can't send him to succeed
to see the aliens yet, bro.
No, not the alien.
Come on, man.
He's only been there, what, a year?
Well, what did we send Michelle
and we don't get it back?
I'll keep her too.
She's dope.
Like, I guess, you know what?
You should stay here with us, Michelle.
You're too good for that Godforsaking planet.
Bring the kids, all right?
All right?
Bring the kids, man.
Barack, I didn't like the way
he was playing footsie with Trump in the funeral.
We'll come back for him.
No, Barack's not bad.
Barack wouldn't be bad to send him.
But I just think Barack's too political.
Barack is too, it's too, it's too,
Barack is a Democrat tried and true.
I don't get that for Michelle with some reason.
I'm not, and I know Michelle is super liberal.
I just don't get that from her.
I just feel like she's a Democrat,
but she's equally aggravated by everybody.
By everybody.
That's it.
She's equally aggravated by it.
I think the Democrats aggravate her as much as Republicans.
Maybe not exactly the same, but close.
And that's what we got to sit in the talk to the alien.
Because I know that the aliens know more about us
than we know more about them.
And they're probably,
here because they're equally is,
they're aggravated at the shit that we're doing
to their planet. You know, they always say that the aliens
come around when there's talk of nuclear war
or when there is nuclear war. And they come to save us.
I don't know they say that, but okay.
Yes, they come to save us from ourselves.
But where were they in 1945?
They say that's when they really started to see...
That is true. Yes. Post-World War II.
Yes. You're right. Yes.
They said that's when they really started to see sightings
in the U.S. and shit like that. Oh, wow.
So my thing is we need people that are equal.
is aggravated with this planet as
they probably are.
And Michelle definitely fits that bill.
Definitely.
That's funny.
Let's do one more.
Wow.
Oh, now UFC rapper.
I mean, UFC fighter, whoever that was.
He needs to apologize to Michelle.
That was not culpable.
That shit was wag.
No, he did exactly what he was brought there to do.
Why should he apologize?
That's true.
I mean, even his people as upset.
That whole, whatever.
That whole setup was for moments like that.
I gave him donkey today.
Oh, you did?
Yeah, the reason I gave him, I mean, I gave him donkey Dick's deal was just stupid, but...
Michelle Obama is a man.
Stuff like that, it just backfires on it.
Because when you're at somebody like him who makes the comment about Michelle Obama,
all you do is remind people of what this country no longer is.
We remind people of what's not in.
in the White House anymore.
Class, dignity, intelligence, real patriots who actually gave a fuck about, you know, more,
more, more than just themselves in this country.
And when you see that, man, when you see, you know, him go up there and be so fucking
classless to make that kind of comment about Michelle Obama, it just reminds you of what's
not anymore in the White House.
Yeah, that was corny shit.
underscore taps underscore, we can end with this one.
If AI, oh, I want to do two more.
If AI solves human mortality, no war or illness,
will humans find a way to kill each other?
Absolutely, fuck it, boom.
We always, we get bored.
Yeah.
By the way, you know, you shouldn't want mortality.
Now, do I want to live as long as humanly possible?
Yes, I feel like I'm going to live to be 101.
That's what God has shown me.
That's what he has said to me through others.
I'm going to live to be 101.
But you're supposed to go on to your next journey.
That's how you have to look at life, bro.
Like, you're not supposed to be on this journey forever.
Like, that's just not the way the world works.
Like, there is life and there is death for a reason.
Some of us here, some of us are here a little bit longer than others.
And when we're here a little bit longer than others, you know, God bless.
But the ones of us that weren't, some of us made an impact in a very short period of
and, you know, some people did it.
And by the way, some people make impact
with one or two people.
They're just their family, and that's fine too.
But I just don't feel like we're supposed to be here forever.
So I don't want AI to solve human mortality.
No illness would be great.
No war would be great.
But we still have to die.
Would you take a scenario where,
so there's no illness, right?
there's no war.
So basically there's no
internal or external forces
that are going to kill you.
I'm great with that.
But in exchange for that,
you get at a certain point,
maybe it's your birth,
your expiration date.
You know that you're going to die,
let's say, at 107 or 94
or whatever it is.
Like, would that be freeing to know,
okay, I got until this amount of time
and I can plan everything out, you know, accordingly
and, you know, get everything lined up,
or is, like, the sense of that
going to be hanging over everything all the time?
And you always, because we all know we're going to die,
but we all also trick ourselves into thinking.
We got time.
We got time or there's not, it's never definitive.
It's always this kind of like gray area
where you never really sit in that moment.
But if I knew, like, all right, I'm going to die on, you know,
December 31st.
2000 and, you know, I don't even want to put a date on it.
Yeah, that's great.
Now I'm already like, fuck.
You know, so, but like, but that's the point, right?
Like, is that scarier in a way to know the date?
And I'll even say it's a good date, you know, I'm not talking about dying in your 50s or your 20s, your 90s, 100, 80s, something like that.
That's a great question.
I mean, I really don't know if it would be better to know the exact date.
I feel like I wouldn't want to know the exact date, but if I did know the exact date, but if I did know the exact date,
I would treat it like it's a vacation.
I would treat it like, hey, I'm going on vacation
at such and such time.
The reason I wouldn't want to know that,
because that would mean I would have to know everybody else's too.
Oh.
And you wouldn't want that.
Imagine that with your kids.
Exactly.
What if you got your kids going?
You got a bad expiration date with your kids?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, I'm saying.
Like, I wouldn't want that.
Like, God really has designed this perfectly.
We don't want to that keep fucking it up.
We're fucking, even that question,
even that question, if AI solves human mortality,
We shouldn't be trying to solve human mortality.
Now, should we be trying to live in a world
where there's no war or no illness?
Absolutely.
But trying to live forever?
No.
We all must go.
And we all must go for a reason.
Because I feel like there's another journey for us to go on.
Like this consciousness, this spirit,
it has to go someplace else.
And, you know, I look forward to living there.
Do you always feel like this?
Or was the experience you had with ayahuasca
kind of what drove this sort of thinking?
I don't know if it was ayahuasca,
but definitely in more recent times,
have I started to not be afraid of the death thing.
You know what I mean?
Of course, I don't want to go anytime soon.
I want to watch my kids grow up.
You know what I mean?
I want to watch my kids grow up.
I want my whole family to have to bury me.
But yeah, I've definitely thought about it.
Like, I remember Ryan Holiday gave me this coin one time.
This was years ago.
Ryan Holiday flew through Ryan.
He gave me this coin and it said,
you're going to die one day.
I'm like, why would you give me this?
And he was just like, because it's a sobering reminder.
that you're going to die one day.
You know what I'm saying?
But that puts things in perspective for you.
It's like, he's right.
So let's get to it.
Let's live while we still got the opportunity
the motherfucking live.
You know what I mean?
Like, let's do this life thing the right way
while we still have the opportunity
to do this life thing the right way.
And I think that, you know,
you carry that coin with you
and you look at it every now and then
just to know, all right,
you ain't got no time,
you don't have the time
that you think you,
you have. And even if you are going to live the 101 like me, that shit can come tomorrow.
I'll be 48 in a couple of weeks, bro. That's funny. I, like, that's wild to me. Forty eight years old.
Like, I still feel eight. Like, I can still remember all of that shit like it was yesterday. All of that shit flew by.
Like, and it did not wait. So, you know, like I tell my kids all the time, whether you think you can,
are you think you can't, you're right.
Because everything you did in your life,
everything you do in your life today
directly impacts all your tomorrow.
So I can sit back and watch so many people
that I know and love who
just never moved,
never really, you know, set out
to do anything.
Like they just kind of just let life go by.
I'm going to share a quote with you guys.
Okay.
Bob Dylan just gave the...
They kind of let just,
they let life just kind of go
by and you know now they're sitting back my age saying to themselves like damn why didn't
i do this why didn't i do that like the time ain't going to wait so you might as well fill it in
doing something my my outlook is like all right i think i'm gonna make it till 80 so if i live life
that way if anything i get after 80 is just you know uh cherry on top wow but like i definitely
are living my life to the fullest every day i think oh i got to read this Chris I got to
So this is an article on Trump's 80th birthday, the New York Times asked several celebrities
artists to talk about being 80 and what they've learned.
I mean, everything he said was actually pretty amazing, but the last sentence really stuck
with me.
The really worst part about being 80 is that you find at last you've got an understanding
of something that might have altered everything in the past.
Had it come at a time where something could still be altered.
When you're young, you think that time moves forward.
At 80, you know that it doesn't.
It's staying still.
We're the ones that don't move.
Action.
No, we're the ones that move.
Oh, where the ones that move?
Yes, factual.
But are either or.
You can choose the move or you choose not to move.
Time is just time.
How you fill it in is what gets you to whatever level you're trying to be at.
Now, read what he said about the best thing about turning 80, because this is very good, too.
The best thing about being 80 is that you outlived the clocks that have been chasing you.
It's freedom from that lie that anything was ever under control.
You don't chase the parade anymore.
You're an old king from some vanished country.
You're heart of the program.
You're not rushing to become anything and you're not haunted by things that you did.
You're haunted by how little of it really mattered in the way you thought it would.
That is where I'm at now at 47.
Straight up.
That's literally where I'm at 47.
So I can imagine what I'll feel like at 80.
Would that question the dude asked me earlier
about, you know, false narratives about you?
That's exactly why I don't care.
You're not rushing to become anything
and you're not haunted by things that you did.
You're haunted by how little of it really mattered
in the way you thought it would.
Like, yes, you're hard of the program
because all of these motherfuckers
are constantly trying to tell you who you are.
You can't tell me about me.
That's a good way to end.
As always, if you listen to this podcast,
you think we're smart,
you think we're intelligent,
you think we're brilliant,
you're absolutely right.
But if you listen to this podcast
and you think we're just a couple of idiots
who don't know shit,
you're right too.
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