The Brilliant Idiots - Swelce

Episode Date: September 29, 2023

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let's start the show Hasakaya Walker! Is it true what Taylor just said? Is this why Taylor's been trying to round me up every single fucking episode because you said she's not allowed to show love to white men?

Here's the thing about Taylor. This is what I tell people all the time shows. Yeah. It's better to be a wave than a surfer. right? I like surfing. It's better to be a wave.

Okay. Surfer's ride waves. You are a wave. I feel like I am a wave. That's fire. Taylor, surfer. So, what's the wave this weekend? Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey.

That's fire, though. She's all over that wave. She's all over that wave. Travis found out who the goat was. He recognized the goat. Now, the funny thing is, recognize the goat. You can't hate on a man who's recognizing greatness. Unbeknownst to me, Lauren LaRosa, formerly at TMZ, you know, she's been guest hosting our breakfast club. She said all black women are

upset about Travis Kelsey being with Taylor because Travis has historically dated black women. I didn't notice. Travis has historically dated beautiful women did happen to be black. Pull up to page six. There's a great page six article. I want you to see. is because I pull up the page six of Travis Kelsey's dating history. This is good shit. Just pull it up. Pull it up, Taylor. Pull it up, Taylor, gang.

Now, I'm not going to lie. Lauren didn't say all black women. She said 87%. She said 87%. She did. I want to be fair. I want to be fair. She said 87%.

All right, boom. Taylor Swift. No, that's not it. Put up Travis Kelsey dating history. I saw it. I saw it. So hold on. Let me get this straight.

Black women are upset that they lost. a white man. No, we saw that. Crazy, right? That's wild. Like, what a compliment. That's not what it is. It's when we saw him dating

a black woman. Like, oh shit, he's for us. He's still for y'all. He's still for y'all. Tail is for everybody. You have to understand. Let's click on that. Like, okay,

Travis Kelsey's dating history. Meet the Chief's Tighten's Girlfriends and Flings. I don't know who's what. Let's throw down the list. Throw it on the list. Okay. Okay. Yeah, he got my haircut, my mustache.

You're trying to ride the Hesdy Wave. That's a fact. If you actually really, whoa. Whoa. Taylor, give me the goddamn mouth. She gave me an epileptic seat. What the fucking long. Go down and say you scroll up.

Okay, scroll up. Come on. But go slow. No, scroll down. Yeah, actually down. Honestly, right there. You know, Taylor is acting like Malone White. I don't know.

I don't know who that is. Malone white dick in your mouth. Ah! Ah! Ha ha ha ha! Yo, how you get caught two minutes in? How you get caught two minutes in? That's what Travis said to Taylor.

Me, Malone White. No, it's so funny. I faked laughs. And then I was like, why am I fake laughing? I don't know who the fucking Malone White is. Yo, give me that right now. Give me that right now so we can teach you. Hold on.

What? Even your microphone don't want to hear what you guys say right now. Have it? Oh, my God. Look at that. Okay, Maya Ben Berry. Scroll down. Who is Maya Ben Barry?

He was trying to catch. She's black. All right. Keep going on. She's on. She's on. Don't matter. But I was on his, I didn't know he had a reality show called Chase and Kelsey in 2016.

Oh, I didn't know that. All right. Okay, so that's something. She's black. Scroll down some more. This beautiful woman right here. Beautiful woman. woman.

Maya. That's Maya, Benberry. God damn. Keep scrolling, Taylor. He met her on his reality. Keep going.

We got, we saw her already. Okay, boom. Kai and Nicole. Kyle and Nicole. Kayla Nicole. Kayla has a woman crush on Kayla.

Shout out to Kayla. Beautiful. Keep going. You know her though, Alex, right? Yeah. How did you know her? Oh, that's weasy people? Yeah.

They dated for five years. So I guess this is the woman who gave all black women hope because she had him dressing like a rapper. You know what I mean? Not like a rapper, more so like somebody who's presenting at like the BET Hip Hop Award

and not necessarily performing. You know what I mean? So she had him dressing like that. So that opened him up to black women. Black women was black women love a white diesel man with a beard. You know what I'm saying? Now, throw down some more. Yeah, that sounds like some hate right there.

It sounds like some jealousy, yo. It do sound like the egg. Hold on, come on. Let my man eat. It do sound like a little. That my man Travis eat, yo. Throw down some more. This is where it gets good.

This is where it guys, slew to Kail and Nicole. Woo! Oh, shit. Woo! Oh, shit. I did not know. I did not know. Our Burning Man, buddy.

Oh, brilliant idiot. It is alumni. Alumnus. Uncommon sense alumni. Oh, my God. Our good sister, Zuri Hall. Who knew? So she turned him back to Whitewood?

Let's read now. Let's read. Hold on. De Zeri turned him. him back to white women. Is that the last one? It says a few months after Nicole and Kelsey called it quits for good. He sparked romance rumors with access

Hollywood correspondent Zuri Hall. In October 2022, Hall was spotted sitting in his family suite at a Chiefs game. Now, let's stop there for a second. Oh, that's the move. Who else was sitting? That's the move, bro. Who else was class?

Who else was sitting in the family suite? Sit you next to Mama, let Mama vet you out. That's his game. That's his ring. Travis. He's risen him up. That's the real. What the kids say, that's the real.

He's rinsing her up. Bro. That's his move. Let me sit you next to mommy in the suite. Come on now. So he's running it back. Oh, Zuri. How many women got that story?

That seat warm, bro. That's what I'm saying. Yo. How many women got that story, man? How many women are sitting next to mom in the suite? Because I would think you ain't just sitting nobody next to mom in the suite. No, it got to be something special. There are somebody you trying to make feel like they special.

Oh, you think it's all gay? Do you think he's all, you think he's hustling Taylor? He's a football player. It's all about game. Hmm, that was hot. Come on, man. Come on, man, slewled all good sister, Zori Hall. Zuri, I will be asking you about that when I see you.

And then look, at the end, one white woman. Not just one white woman, because that is the white woman. Yeah. The poster child for all white women at the moment, Taylor Swift. So here's the thing. Mm-hmm. What's Taylor's angle here? Because I have a, I have a little theory.

Oh, let's go now. Now, keep in mind, you wanted to Swift's favorites. Oh, that's, that's, that's mother. Okay, okay, okay. I can't believe, yeah, that's mother. Let's go. That's mother, how, that's mother. That's what the Bruinians is all about, baby.

No, that's mother. No. That's great. Okay. What is, Taylor Swift has done literally almost everything you can do in music. She's only has one more thing to really accomplish. Have a baby? No, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Because that's a good breed. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, they're going to have a gigantic kid. There's no question. But there's one more thing in music that she has not done yet. And it's quite difficult for her to do because her fan base is so different. But it is the highest of the high mountain tops in music.

Only the greatest of the grades get to do this event. The BT Awards. The BET Awards. The BET Awards. And Taylor has yet to do the BETT Awards. So she figured the best person, the best person to get her into the BET Awards is the dude who's been knocking down all the women that are at the BAT Awards. I'm just saying. I see the logic.

He's been giving them the Malone White. I see the logic. You know, he's been giving him the Malone White. I didn't believe that until this morning seeing Taylor, Lustover, Travis Kelsey, seeing Lauren LaRosa, Lustover, Travis Kelsey. What do you mean? Not anymore. That's got a fucking crazy-ass mustache and he looked like he for the white since. Now, for real. He just looks like me.

He just looks like me. What's wrong with that? Because he's with Taylor Swift. He's four the whites. You think I'm four of the whites? I'm not against them. I'm not against the whites. I'm not against them.

I'm for everybody. Whites included. All lives matter. Teller, all lives matter. This man has a whole history of sisters in supreme outfits. And now all of a sudden... He changed his look. You noticed that?

Zuri did that, yo. We got to, listen. Listen, Zuri did that, bro. Zeri might have done, did that. Zuri did that. You think so? Bro, we spent one week. I didn't know Zuri was on this list.

I was just reading page six. Alex and I'm like, gosh, Zuri? Spent one week in a Winnebago and Burning Man with Zuri, and we both immediately married white women. Oh, I'm just saying. I didn't think it was related, but now, now I'm starting to think it might be related. Al it might be related. Not all good sister, Zuri turning them the mayonnaise.

Damn. Jesus turned water to wine. Zori turned water to mayonnaise. That's a fact. You turn a Tella to mayonnaise. You're telling her the mayonnaise. It's crazy. It's more like a yoli.

Yeah, you got a little aeoli. But here's the thing. I think Taylor wants to Super Bowl. I think she wants to do Super Bowl halftime show. It is. She got about two years away. she might have two years away. That being said, right now her fan base is so removed from the Super Bowl.

But if she dates one of the most successful NFL athletes in history, you could argue the greatest tight end career of the position. All of a sudden, her fan base becomes ingratiated with the NFL. The NFL players start to recognize her. The fans start to recognize her and her greatness, obviously, the greatest alive. So she ends up doing the halftime show I think it is completely possible. You know, I'm not, I believe that theory

because there are women over the past couple of days. I'm not even going to lie, who have pissed me off real bad. Oh, why would happen? Because they have said things to me, man, football's about to be popping. Yeah.

I'm like, football is about to be popping. I'm like, do I take this bait? Maybe she's talking about soccer. No, no, no. I'm like, maybe she's talking about soccer. So I'm like, what do you mean football is about to be popping? They're like, the NFL, like, everybody's talking about the NFL.

I'm like, yeah, it's like they do every year. Like, it's the end of fucking L. Like, it's the biggest thing in America. Yeah. And she was like, no, because Taylor Swift was at the game and Taylor's bringing so much a titter to the sport. She is, though. I wanted to throw my fucking phone.

Why? They're right. She ain't lying. Yo, they're right. She's, my father. He's not doing it. He's not doing it. He's not doing it.

He's not doing it. We're doing the thing he does every day. And now he's not doing it. Listen, she's bringing 60% of the population to football. Football is a very small sport when you think about it. It's just the men watch it. But now that the men and women watch it because of the goat, I think the sport is really going to take off.

Mad women watch football and mad daughters, mad fathers of daughters who like Taylor, definitely watch football. Fathers of daughters who like Taylor watch football. That's a fact. That's a fact. But them daughters weren't watching until Taylor started watching. They're like, oh, it's popping now.

They're not watching it now. Taylor's going to do for the Chiefs what Deion's doing to the Colorado Buffaloes. How everybody likes the Buffaloes. Yes. The Chiefs are going to be so many people's team now. 100%. Just because Taylor is at the game.

100%. You know? They don't have to change the name, though. The difference is Deionne made a commitment to Colorado. Look how cool they look. Taylor has not made a commitment to the Chiefs yet. Look how cool they look together. Look how swaggy they look.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong. Taylor has a reputation for like dating a lot of different guys. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Watch your mouth when you're talking about the God. Pull up Taylor Swift dating history. You know, you talk about the God right now. Pull up Taylor Swift's Day. She's dated men.

If you do that, we'll be scrolling for days. Why y'all, yo, yo, by the way, he's fit. You got to watch her mouth talking about a woman like that. Why, wait, there's nothing wrong with Travis Fit right there. That's still very, like, fads from euphoria. God bless the day. The fit is fire. The fittest kid super.

The fittest kid super. It's absolutely fine. Let me tell you something he did that was genius. But that mustache got to go. Hold on, hold on one second, guys. A man is talking. Oh, hold on. So, so the fit.

right there shout out to our boy, Calm and a kid Super has a woman on it? She said after your boy who comes. No, Colin. What the fuck did you say? Come over here and suck on his name. So you know how nice I am? His real name is Com. And I still flipping it.

That's how nice I am. I know you say, come. I know what you thought. I know what you thought. Go up Taylor Swift's Dayton history. While you do that, the jacket he's wearing has a woman on it. And it was called like, it's called like Summer Woman.

They changed the jacket title on their website to summer of 99 or some Taylor Swift song. So it started to get all the Google hits. Wow. And it was fucking genius. Did he sell out? I'm sure. Of course, bro.

Not any killing that shit. Anyway, sorry, go on. Full up, Travis. I'm not Travis. Taylor Swift dating history. I can tell you the dating history right now, right off the top of my head of you guys want. That's where it starts?

Joe Jonas. Joe Jonas, John Mayer. Okay. Travis Kelsey. Lucas Till. Taylor Lawner. Come on, that's werewolf. You know?

Corey. Montief. So we already have four. Her history is already longer than Travis Kelsey. Yeah, but you don't think Travis was knocking him down as well? Like, we just,

Taylor has to date a guy. Travis was obviously knocking him down. Now you put him in his family suite next to his mom. You only four of them. The rest he was just knocking him down. Keep going, Taylor. John Mayor.

John Mayor. Okay. Jake Gyllenhaal. Jake Jilly. Connor Kennedy. Connor. Harry Stout. Jesus, when does this end?

Yo, yo, yeah. You got to say me, y'all. My God. Oh, my God. A girl can't go on a date? No, it's never wrong date. It's never wrong day. I'm not.

You don't know if they drop the bottom out of it. I'm not one of these people who assume just because you dated a person you had sex with them. I'm not judging on that. So, you said a big. You saw the picture they was posting of her knees looking black and blue? No. You know, they got a picture of her at the game and her knee has like a little black and blue on it. And people on Twitter is like, okay, Travis putting her to work already.

Hold on. You saw what Travis said on Andy Cohen. Travis said he don't even date a girl unless she give hate. Calvin Harris is nine unless she don't give head. How did that even come up? We'll get to that. Calvin has. Tim, you.

Listen, we're going to do a deep dive on this tight end. We're going to dive. We're going to do a deep dive on this tight end. Sounds like someone's obsessed with Taylor. Sounds like someone's into the Taylor Mafia. Welcome to the gang. Shout out more. Calvin Harris.

Oh, shout us in Calvin Harris. Jesus Christ. Tom Hiddleston. We had 10, y'all. She can't go into danger? Can we make it a big of a dozen? Why are you shaming this girl? Why are you shaking this girl?

Joe Allwin is 11. Okay. Maddie Haley 12. And that's Travis. Travis is 13. Travis is 13. The woman's 33 years old. She can't go on a date or two.

I'm not at any of that. One man a year? You can't date one man a year? This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm telling everybody. Travis, you better focus on football. Okay, Taylor is just having fun. Oh, you think Taylor's using them?

Taylor's living her life. As you just said, she's 33 years old. She's rich as fuck. She likes to kick it, have fun, go out to eat, have a dinner date. The media makes all. By the way, none of these might even be romantic relationships. It's just pictures that we see and people say,

oh, somebody's standing next to this person so they could be dating. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. But even if they were dating, it's totally okay. She's an independent woman. She could do whatever she want, even if she wants to get the bottom drop down. Don't worry. You listen, all I'm simply-

Material for her albums. Yo, the album, you know what she does is she'll usually be with the person, then that's reflected in her art as all of us do. Yeah. So what do you think these songs are going to be about? Tight-ins. Tight ends Now she had to loosen up some tight ends

You know what I'm saying Oh you think she's pegging? You think she's pegging? You think she's pegging And that'd be funny and Travis With a fucking kid super customized dildo Yo

That'd be crazy Shake it off Shake it off Ritch it off Listen All I'm simply saying Is Travis you need to focus on football Taylor's just having a good time

You know what I'm saying Like black women He'll be back Oh wow Are y'all gonna take him? Are you gonna take him back? If he brings that beard back You really need the beard

Because you want to cover as much white skin as possible Why do you need the beard? I want beard on my black men too though But mustache is way more classy Mustache is more classy No, goatee is more classy No, goatee is for pedophiles If you want an actual

Classy, elegant man, it's a mustache Come on, think about it You want to solve a crime, mustache? Taylor should have been a sum of fling though You're not supposed to sleep away women after labor day. He's a white man. Now he, oh, now he's a white man. I've been to know he was a white man. All before y'all had his poster on his wall with his jersey like he's retired talking about how much y'all love Travis Kelsey. Now all of a sudden he's a white man.

I did not hear y'all identify him as a white man until he started dating Taylor. That's a good point. Yes, we do. He's fine for a white man. Everyone would say that. I never heard that. You didn't identify him as a white man until he started dating a white man. Norin said 87%. You're saying everybody. I'm not saying. You just said everybody. So which one is it? I hate you're making it general. I don't want to speak for black women.

Y'all are black women. I'm saying I know a lot of black women. Even Alex said himself. I know a lot of black women. Even Alex is fine too. I do know a lot of black women. Even a black woman like Travis likes. Keep going.

I mean, excuse me. Now, let's go to Travis. You got to stop playing this video. It's driving me fucking crazy. Let's go to Travis on Andy Cohen. I think Taylor's trying to cross over. I bet you, his next album is going to be R&B.

What year was this, man? 2016. 2016. Okay. 2016, yeah, 2016, we hadn't got the woke culture yet. Okay. I get it. I mean, he looks so different.

Exactly. Yeah, I can't believe. Oh, he was on that show, though. He was doing a show on E. Okay, let's hear what he had to say. This is Travis Kelsey talking about his deeding, his, His dating deal breakers. Is it a deal breaker if a girl won't sleep with you after the third date?

The third date. I feel like that's like the breaker right there. That's it. Right. Three dates. That's like. If you don't have sex at third date, that that's it. I mean, I want to say a deal breaker.

But I mean, it's like, it's like, it. What did your mother teach you? Put some questions in there. Okay, let's call out. What did you think of his answer? I don't, you know, it'd be nice to have sex by then. but, you know, at the same time, maybe you don't. It's not a deal breaker.

It's not a deal breaker. If you really like the girl. If you really like the girl, it's not a deal breaker. And that's a strange thing to say on national television because it's either going to do one or two things. He's going to make women want to sleep with you before the third date. Or it's going to make women say, I don't want anything to do with him because he only wants to sleep with me. You know what I'm saying? I mean, to be fair, we don't know if we like you until after we nut. So whether that happens the first date or the third date, like.

But if you take a girl out for three dates and she doesn't, you know, let you hit and then you just stop calling her automatically that girl is going to think, oh, that's all he wanted me for. No, you just weren't interesting enough to not fuck. It's up to you to be interesting. That's a good, I get what you're saying. You know what I mean? Like, I get what you're saying? But what if you're the most interesting woman in the world, but you're sticking to your guns. No matter how interesting this woman is, if she don't let me smash after the third date, I'm not calling her back.

Then he sucks. but I think that usually I think I don't know I think sometimes women trade sex for being interesting and if you're interesting a guy will wait a long time now you might not be the only person he's fucking

and you have to put up with that because you're deciding that you don't want to have sex until you guys have been together for X amount of times but he'll cut that off once of course he will because he's already into you because you're interesting

it's not their fault that they want to only have sex with you that's your fault if a guy only wants to have sex with you that's a whole on you. Or you guys just don't mesh. Like you don't link the things you're interested

and other things he's interested, et cetera. So that's, yeah. And I'm not, by the way, I'm not mad at, you know, any woman who chooses to sleep with a man before a third date. And I'm not mad at any woman who chooses not to. Yeah. Because if you, like you said, if you're really interesting, right, this guy will constantly be there, not even just the smash

because he actually likes you. Yeah. You know what I mean? You guys actually have some chemistry. That's right. I think, to be honest, I think waiting. is better. I think really, especially just to develop because it gives you, like on your first date you might be nervous. You might not actually be yourself. So maybe a few days in, you start to

become yourself. And then he realizes how much more in love is too early, but how much more into the real you he is. But it takes a little bit to warm up. You know, give him six months. I think six months is a great time. You're trying to get people. No, I'm going to tell you why. You got it, because you want to watch for outbreaks. Oh, within six months, you're going to see a cold saw or something. I'm dead. Yeah, serious. You got to know about these kind of things. But you won't because if you're not seeing it for six months. None of the colds are around your mouth.

If it's already there, it's already there. Yeah. Oh, you just put on that carmets. Oh, do you have a little situation? Do not with that shit on me. Stop. I asked, I'd never even seen it. I've never even seen it.

I've been here. He's asking. Yo, Charlotte. Charlotte, yeah. Whoa, wait a minute. Don't do that. Why he's so defensive? No, no, no, because.

being real defensive. Because when y'all start a rumor, that shit goes. What you're not a rumor. We asked the question. It was a joke. And you went into herpes prevent defense for no reason. You did. You did.

You did go to prevent. That was crazy. If only you went to prevent before, you wouldn't have been. So if you're Taylor Swift, do you bring this up? I mean, let's watch it because I feel like there's one more part. There's really interesting. Okay, let's hear it. Very, very classy gentleman.

I didn't say you weren't. Those first two dates are top of the line dates. Yes. And then that third one's kind of like a relaxed. I'll take a breath. Is it a deal breaker if a girl has fake boobs? I don't think so. I mean, as long as she's comfortable and very confident in what she looks like and how she looks, I mean, I'm all for it.

I like his honor. I like that. Of course, I'm for scared. Oh, this is like a, I'm a little embarrassed to ask this question, but I'm going to ask it because my daughter is here. But okay. Is it a deal breaker if a girl, if a girl, if a girl, doesn't like to give her all sex. Sounds like a dear deal breaker to me.

Quickly, I agree. Why she gave him a high five? Why do that? That was crazy. That was kind of like, I probably did the same way. Like, if a guy doesn't give her or. Oh, okay.

She says she agrees and then gave him a high five. Oh, okay. That makes sense. I took it as she was going to give him some hate. That's how I took it to. And her daughter's right there. She just said, my daughter's right there. Why would you high five him after that?

You didn't want to ask the question to begin with. And then you gave him a high-fi. Did anything after that? Let's see. Let me see. Let's see. Press play. Romona agrees.

Oh, God. You told me not to ask me anything embarrassing. You know what I mean? Who fuck out of here, bro? Go on. As long as you give it. Okay. Is it a jailbreaker?

Okay. That's contact. That's right. That's context. She said as long as you give it. I don't have a problem with anything. So that means she was slapping high-five to head. Well, yeah, she was saying as long as you give it.

As long as it. She receives it. She receives it. The reason I have no problem with any of us that he said, because all he did is set boundaries. I see a man who has clear boundaries. He sets his boundaries. And if you don't want to deal with him and his boundaries, then you go find somebody else. Yo, how long do we go down on women, though?

Like, how old is she? Like, what's the age limit to that shit? No, no, no, as long as it's there, you got to do it. Man, get the fuck out of here, bro. Are you kidding me? That woman's 60 years old. You don't plan to be with your wife at 60? I do, but I'm not.

You don't know what I mean? You won't let a young boy come in there and do it? God damn. Exactly. Exactly. Like, Jesus Christ. You got to do it, bro. You don't matter what the age is, you got to get down there, man.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? No, but you don't think it's not like it got to stop from them. You think when you're 70, they can be taking out their teeth and going after? Without the teeth? No. I mean. I mean.

Yeah, but when they look up, they look crazy. right like yeah that's a little wild 70 oh man man yeah you're gonna be 72 you ain't gonna care no we don't care the dick still gonna be getting hard bro ippuccino's like getting babies done that was denero but it's fine all white people are the same that's all good that's right that's all good yo it's this robert patino ain't robert pachino had a baby too yeah he did yep fuck it robert robert yeah i'm not mad at traviscoscy man he's setting his boundaries

yeah he's setting his boundaries he's letting women know what it is and, yo, it's on you. But if you're Taylor, do you bring this up? No, because we saw the knees, bro. There's no issue. If you're Taylor and you're, okay, if your Taylor's PR and this video is out, because this video's only out now

because this is what happens when you become another level of famous because overnight, Travis Kelsey has become another level of famous just because all of a sudden he's dating Taylor Swift. Jersey sales went up 400%. You know what I mean? He needs to get Pete Davidson on the phone and call and ask to figure out what to do next.

figure out the deal. You know what I'm saying? But Taylor's people got to be looking at this and saying to themselves, this video is going to make people think things about our girl. So how do you handle this if you're Taylor Swift? I think it's good. I think that it shows a maturity of her.

Because I think there is still like a kind of like young girlness in Taylor. And this is good. Now she's dating a man who has boundaries and a man with boundaries, you know, now we know what to expect. The sad part about this, though, they're both stars. They've already been spotted out once, right, at the game. By the time they get spotted three more times, when they see them out on a fourth time, well, two more times.

When they see them out on the fourth time, all you're going to see on the social media is Travis hit. Bus wide open. Travis hit. Travis hit. Whether he hit or not. That's why PR got to be a little concerned. Holy shit.

Y'all got to be a little concerned. So if they break up before that third hit, oh my God. If I'm Taylor, I don't let us be seen no more. So Blackwell, would you accept Travis back after he's been rejected by Taylor? I already told you. What you said? Bring the beard back. So all it takes to the beard.

Bring the swagging the beard back. Can't listen to Taylor. She loves beer. She's from Philly, bro. You know, really might be a Philly thing. Yeah, guys would really come out to wound with beards, bro. Yeah. Like, come on, man.

That's crazy. Suit to freeway. Like, stop it. Like, knock it off, Taylor. Damn. Yeah, salute to Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. I hope y'all figure it out. Power couple.

What else we got, Taylor? You want to play your little game, Taylor? Oh, yeah, let's play Taylor's game. It's not a game. Oh, we weren't playing it. Number one and by all memes necessary. She had Taylor Swift and Travis, so we covered that. Okay.

What else we got? President Biden's fringe gaff during speech calling LL Cool J Boyd. Yeah, yeah, yo, yeah. Let's play the clip. It's just so incredible. Shout out to Biden, the motherfucking goat. And two of the great artists of our time representing the ground-breaking legacy of hip-hop

in America, LLJ Cool J. Jesus, Chris. By the way, Jesus Christ. That boy's got, man's got biceps bigger than my thighs. I think he's spent... An MC Light, both of you. Thank you.

He's awkward. I want to do a show about him. I feel like every time we give Ukraine like a trillion dollars, they're like, yo, run up there and say some while. shit so we forget about it. Yeah, let him go up there with no problem. Yeah, yeah. Let that prompt her off and let him fire.

And that's all we talk about. Ukraine just got another trillion dollars. Nobody even talk about that at all. Because this guy's doing his body thing. Oh, man. But that was crazy, bro. When he dropped the boy, bro? Yeah, the boy was crazy, but he corrected himself on the boy.

I don't think he means it in a derogatory way. He's recognizing that people might interpret it that way. But he's only, he's 137 years. He knows every racial slur. He does. He knows the ones that came, the ones that went, the ones that stuck. And he used them when they would really... When they ripped.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. That engine was new. Yeah. The thing that bothered me the most about this was him calling L.L. Cool J, L.J. Cool J. And the reason it bothered me is because when LL.

came out with his first album, Joe Biden was my age. No. He was 44. I'm 45, but Joe Biden was 40. 44 years old when L.L. Cool J came out with his first album. LL's been white famous since about at least 30 years. He's been doing the NCIS. That's what I'm saying.

What do you think Biden thought the N stood for in that case? Taylor, it's what Biden thought. It's not me. Why did you look at me like he was about to attack me? Okay? That would have been crazy. What? He was like, I used to watch him on N-Whorpe.

N-word Chi-I-S. N-word C-I-G. What the fuck did he? He'll drop one of these days, yeah. I can see it. No, I see it coming. I see it coming. I mean, the thing about this man is just like, even with the word, boy, right, he corrected himself.

Boy is a white racist word. We understand that. But L.L's 50 years old. But context matters. You know what I mean? But he corrected himself in real time. And this is the same guy who once said Barack Obama was the first African-American

that he's met who was What do you say? Clean? You don't remember that? You don't remember that? Y'all don't remember that? Hold on. Yo Biden's the code.

Hold on. Let me get the exact quote. He's the first one I met. It seemed like they know how to shower. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me read the exact quote because y'all think I made this up.

I don't believe it. Yeah, he said, Joe Biden, he said, I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy. I mean, that's a story book, man. Joe Biden describing fellow candidate Barack Obama. No, no, no, no. Let's give some context to this, please.

Clean meeting no controversy. Eh? But to say the first mainstream African-American, so it's the first mainstream African-American you met with no controversy. In politics? You got to be clear. You got to be clear about that, though. You just say mainstream.

Like, you can't just say... Well, let's see it, because I'd like to laugh. I mean, shit. I mean, you got the first... sort of mainstream African America who is articulate and bright and clean and nice looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man.

It's a story book, man. God damn. I want this to be more racist than it is, but I think what he's, I believe what he's referring to is candidate. Like the first one that has been a mainstream, there's been fringe candidates,

for example, like Jesse Jackson. I don't know if you would consider mainstream. there's there's like name some others I don't know Alshafton ran but Barack was like coming from within the system he's mainstream and I think he's trying to compliment all those other things but I understand when you're looking at him through the lens of

I just don't think he would ever use that term to describe a white candidate and there's plenty of them that's dirty we've had a bunch of them already I'm saying but it's a bunch of them that's dirty is what I'm saying like you know what I mean like who would be the like who's a clean politician I don't know if there is one But if there was one, I just don't think he would use that language.

But he's got a history of this. But once again, he's 127 years old, man. It's hard for old dogs to learn new tricks. He's trying. Well, how do we still have him as a president, right? He's trying. He is trying. You know what I'm saying?

He is trying. It's like when men, right? Remember when we stopped saying the B word, I never used it that much anyway, but there was a time where a lot of men collectively said we're going to stop using the B word. I love saying that word. But we stopped. And then when we started saying things like female, they got upset.

They told us that was wrong. He ain't going to say the B word. I'm going to say unstable creatures. I know. That's why you always got to stay strong. They're going to be upset. No matter what. That's Biden.

You know what I'm saying? Exactly. We actually gave you a word to be upset about. You should have been happy. And then we made it nice. And now you can't even really make the argument that females disrespectful. And I think.

I didn't know what the thing is. And I think, I really do think the correction matters in this situation. Because you got to think he's 90-60-and-a-half, right? Right? He's nine, what did I say that fucking say? He's 96. You sound like Biden, right? Yeah, he's, 96.5 years old.

Yeah. He's, he was probably using that language for the first 60 years. Oh, so why are they giving him the most complex black names? L.L. Cool, J, MC, like, just give him, like, Daryl. Johnson. If we're being honest, he probably stopped talking like this when he became Barack Obama's vice president. That's when he probably started even working

on it. 2008. Just think about that. Your whole life, you were on your other, you know, segregationist, senators and everybody else. Y'all just free-balling, you know what I'm saying? Like, can you believe this N-word wants me to be as president?

I want to play this game with you so bad, but I can't say anything. I can't say any of them. You think this color really got to be. You know? What I'm saying, Joe. Do they even have the water fountains in there for that? They probably had them in a class. I'm not even joking.

They probably had Joe Biden in a class to teach him what to say and what not to say. I just thought of something. When they stop. I don't want you to think right now. No, no. I don't like when you think about. No, no. When they stopped making the water fountains for whites and for at the time the term

was colored, they just, they didn't remove the for colored water fountain. they just took away to for colored, right? Yeah. So there was a time where people knew which was which, but would they like just not use it themselves? Like I'm just so, like, obviously the black people were like, nah, I need to try this, white water. But like, where the white people go and like,

yo, we got to see what's going on over there. Like, they're pretty fast. Yo, I've thought about that, right? Because if you're a child. You know what I mean? No, I thought about that because if you're a child, right, our kid. Or if you watch sports, you're like, I need to try that. Like, that's how kids are.

We're wired to want to do things. People tell us not to do it. So if you're a white person and they say this is the four colors only, you'll be like, well, I want to see what the fuck they're drinking. Especially if you're a white person like playing cornerback, you know? Yeah. And then you're like, wait in a minute. I want to go see what they're going to get tired of.

Or there had to be times where like somebody had to go to the bathroom real, real bad. You're a white person that had to go real bad. And the closest bathroom to you is the for colored's only bathroom. You know what I'm saying? Oh, wow. Then you go in there and fuck it up like Andrew Wood. blame it on the black people. What do you mean?

What do what I do? What do I do? When you go in a bathroom and destroy it. Oh, like doodoo. Oh, and black people never smell doodoo's like that. Not like yours. Nobody doodles like that. Honestly, mine are special.

I will. You different. But also think about that white guy that got to pee next to black people for the first time in his life. I want to fight. No, no, no. I need to fight. I want to hate. I want to jump Taylor, yo.

Oh, because she brought up the white. No, no, put it back. No, you need to put it back. No, you need to be. I put it up So y'all can see the difference Of the water fountains. Taylor typed in black only water fountains

And a bunch of pictures from prison pulled up. Really? That's what I did. That's not what that is? That's fucking racial. What does it say? It says racist water fountains. Oh, she put

That's all she typed was racist water fountains. She found what she looking for, though. Exactly. I don't see what's the difference between the white the colored one. The white would look actually like a sink. Exactly. The white water fountain looks like a sink. The color one looks like an actual water fountain.

And they come from the same crate. That's crazy. Yeah. Grow up. Grow up. We all come from the same pipe, that's really shit, man. There's one man that started it all somewhere. When you really think, that is a

great way to look at racism, yo. We all come from one fucking pipe, man. I don't know if it was Adam or Antoine, but there was one man that started all this shit. Do you think Adam was black? Probably. I always figured Adam was white

because he had sex with his sister, but he could be black. Do blacks do that? Yeah, I never understood that black. I never understood that logic in the Bible. Well, actually, I don't know if it's his sister. It technically says rib. It was his rib. But what was weird, remember they said, Kane killed Abel.

Yeah. And then went off and found a wife. So then where did they come? Where the fuck did the wife come from, bro? And then I remember reading somewhere when somebody said Cain ended up marrying his sister. So that's where the incest comes from there. Eve was kind of just like if you could masturbate and then when your cum comes out, you could turn it into like some type of clay figurine that comes to life. That's, yeah, that could be what it is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, or it was the rib. Why the rib, though? I figure you don't need that bone. It's crazy, right? Like, why the rib? Like, every other bone you're going to need. But the rib, I feel like if you, I could do without one.

Yeah. You know. Well, right. What else we got, Taylor, and buy any memes necessary? Oh, I was just Britney Spheres. No, no, no, no, no. Brittany driving plies crazy. She got plies going crazy.

Wait, why? Plies love Britney Spiz. Every time Britney Spiz, oh, my God. Oh, I didn't see this now. I didn't know she. What the fuck? Remember when Tony Yale said he would never want to beef with terror? squad because them motherfucking Puerto Ricans be dancing with knives.

Remember he said that on drink champs? Brittany saw that interview because ain't no way in hell. What the fuck is, them poor dogs behind her, bro. Bro, just think she was with her fiancee for years. He dealt with this shit for years. Waking up every morning. Trying to cut a bagel and have

can't find the knives goes into the other room. Brittany, I be trying to hold you now, man. But boy, you don't help when you do. shit like that. Let her Raphael a little bit, bro. It's all good. Damn, Britney. What is she doing? I want to see Britney at next year's Iheart radio music festival. Yes, we need that. We need, yo, John Sykes, Tom Pullman, Bob Pittman, Rich Bresley, you got to make that happy, man. We need Britney Spitz, headlining next year's Iheart Radio Music Festival. I don't know what we got to do to get her out the house, what you got to pay her, but she needs to be doing it and bring the knives, bro. God, damn.

Brittany needs to date an NFL player so they could both have CET together. Antonio Brown and Britney Spears just be doing crazy shit all day and it'd be making the most sense to both of them. Wow, Britney Spears has fascination with knives, sleeps with one under bed. Brittany can't afford security no more, yo? Yeah, nice. What the fuck is going on, man?

Yo, lock her up, bro. We can really, we need to lock her up, yo. We need to lock her up, you. Oh, my God, Brittany. This is entertaining. This shit is entertaining, but it's actually sad and dangerous, man. We don't know where this shit could go. Let's face it.

No. You got to, listen, man, I promise you, when you hear Tony Yeo talk about how members of Terror Squad are dangerous because they be dancing with machetes. You know, them niggas in the Bronx, niggas are pulling machete out on you. Start dancing. That's when I realized, you know, the Bronx niggers is crazy. That's how that shit looks, man. My God.

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man. This Friday, Saturday, Social Bank Arena. T. Dot. We're coming out. I know Charlotte's trying to rile some shit up right before I get out there. I see you. I appreciate You're trying to help out your man's with his album, at least. No, man. Who?

Anyway. I help a lot of people from Toronto. What do you mean? This guy's crazy. Anyway, so I'll see you out there. Also, listen, we added seats in Dublin. We had another show in Manchester. So make sure you go check those out as well.

And then we've added another show in Perth, at another show in Sydney. We added seats in Brisbane and Melbourne. Thank you guys so much for selling out all these shows, man. We really appreciate you. Theandrissholts.com for tickets. And what about you, Charlotte? What you got?

Saturday, October 7th, man. My third annual Mental Wealth Expo was happening at the Marriott Marquis and Times Square from 11 a.m. The 4 p.m. It is a free event. I bring together some of the best therapists and psychiatrists in the country, along with some of the best mental health advocates and, you know, mental health experts. people who want to share their experiences, man. Let me tell you some of the lineup, man,

because we got such a bunch of great panels lined up for you. Of course, Dr. Alfie Briland Noble, who runs my organization, the Mental Welfare Alliance, as well as the Accoma Project. She's going to be there. Dr. Rita Walker is going to be there. Michelle Williams from the Checking In podcast

on the Black Effect IHeart Radio podcast network, as well as Destiny's Child. And, you know, she's a part owner of the Chicago Sky. Like Michelle does her thing. She'll be there. My man, Dr. J. Barnett, will be there, Tamika Mallory, Brandon Marshall,

my good sister, Angela Rye, will be there, Shaka St. Cor will be there, psychotherapist, Elliot Connie, will be there, Resma Minicum, Off of My Grandmother's Hands, my dula, me and my wife's dula, Latham, Thomas, she'll be there. So Saturday, October 7th,

from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. For more information, go to Mental Wealthexpo.com, and it is a free event. Oh, and my man, Carson Daly, he's a big mental health advocate, mental health advocate. He'll be there as well. see y'all Saturday, October 7th.

And I got to salute my girl, man, Angela. I told you all, Angela has this fantastic drink in stores called Carveva. Carveva detox. It's antioxidant juice. This is the great Kiwi I'm holding. I got to salute Angela because Angela is now

in 300 stopping shops around the country. 300 stopping shops around the country. You can go get Carviva wellness, man. And, you know, Angela, I've watched her build this from the ground up and the things take time i was telling taylor this earlier because she was talking to me about just life and being impatient and you know wanting things to happen now that's just not the way life works man so i watch somebody like angela a woman entrepreneur start this from the ground up

and it's now in stopping shop it's a great product salute to car vivo wellness and uh the homie Angela. Now let's get back to the show. Shokes, did you see Usher is headlining the Super Bowl halftime show? I love it. That's absolutely amazing. He's an incredible performer. Music is incredible. I'm very excited for it.

Usher's going to be doing his thing at the Super Bowl, man. Yeah, I can't wait to see it. I think we all saw this coming. I remember when they announced Las Vegas was the next site for the Super Bowl. I know I definitely said that on Breakfast Club a bunch of times. Usher has to headline the Super Bowl.

Because he has this residency. He's got the residency there. He's the only one that makes sense. I'm not going to lie. There was a part of me that thought Rock Day shit was going to go back white. Just because you've had the weekend, you've had Dr. Drey and Snoop, you had Rihanna. I don't know why I thought that I should have known better. I mean, look.

I really thought this was going to be Taylor's year. I'm not going to lie. It shouldn't be Taylor. It should be Morgan Wallen or Whalen or whatever, however you say his last name. But he's really over Taylor? Yeah. For football. For football.

It's hard to say that now, though. But Morgan's got the N-word controversy. I know. He didn't have that? He had it, though. No, he's past it, but I still think it'd be hard for the NFL to be like... If Dr. Dren Snoop and 50 Cent and Eminem

can do the Super Bowl halftime show. The expectations are lower. For rappers? For rappers. It's so funny you say that because 50 cents says that all the time. I've asked 50, and you can go look up the interview on Breastcall. I've asked him how he gets away with the stuff he gets away with. He was like, because I'm a rapper.

I know when to be a rapper. He was like, I just lean back on that. I'm a rap. He's a genius with that shit. 50 is an absolute genius with his freedom to operate however the fuck he wants in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He makes movies and TV shows and still get to act like a rapper and nobody says shit. Yeah, I mean, I get it, you know, coming from a person who's been labeled a shock, jock.

You know, like, you can't be shocked when you hear something I've said before. Yeah. You know, past, person. or future because I'm a shop job. Yeah. And if shat don't work, I just be like, I'm retarded. Please. One of the two, one of the two will get me out of this jam.

One of the two, one of the two will get me out the jam. But salute to Usher. Next year is New Orleans. You already know who it'll be next year. Who we got? Come on, man. New Orleans? Morgan Wallin.

Nah, bro. You got to go to Lord Wayne. I mean, you got to me, you got to me, you got to go. go little Wayne, Drake, and Friends. You know? Because you can't just say Little Wayne and Friends because they didn't do just Dr. Dre and Friends. They did Dr. Drey Snoop and Friends.

So you got to go Little Wayne, Drake and Friends in New Orleans. Will Drake open up for Lil Wayne in the Super Bowl? He's big enough to do it himself. The way Dre and Snoop did. Oh, that they do. Yeah, it'd be Little Wayne and Drake. Oh, bro. And then you bring out...

Nicky. Juvenile could do back that ass up. Bring out juvenile. That's what you bring out. Oh, definitely. Definitely bring out juvenile. Do not do back that ass up. BG's out of jail.

They did not going to bring BG. Sute the BG though. They could, though, if they did Bling, bling. Bling. They could do bling, bling. They bring a tiger might come out, you know. But I think if they did it, you'd probably see those four. Just like when Drey and Snoop did it,

Drey and Snoop bought out Mary, Kendrick, M&M and 50. What about Bousie? Why don't they bring out Bucie? Hibu Kna. Bousie wasn't part of that family. But still, he's Louisiana. I think they would keep it cash money, young people. Yeah, if they did it, they would keep it cash money and young money.

And I mean, by the way, everybody that we just named is completely big enough that America knows. Drake, Nikki, Wayne, Jovey would back that ass up. Like, that would be great. And I'll tell you something else you said something about Morgan Wall and here's the most interesting thing about the last two Super Bowls. And this is why you can't tell Rock Nation nothing. They won an Emmy with Dr. Drey and Snoop. And they're nominated for five Emmys with Rihanna right now. So Rihanna is going to probably win one.

So the Super Bowl halftime show, the last two years have either had a show that's won Emmys or as Emmy nominated. You think Usher is not going to be Emmy nominated? No, no. Usher is fantastic. That's what I'm saying. So they're like, you know, country music is just having such a wave right now that either this year or next year doing a country music artist would just absolutely demolish. And Morgan Wallen is the one to do. I just don't know if the NFL can get past.

Just because Taylor is female. Morgan Wallen is female and male. Morgan Wall did the song with He's a date Say again He's non-binary His audience is non-binary It is not bound to one gender

Yes 100% Interesting And he got rap too You know that's last night We made the liquor talk That's Morgan Wallin Yes Did not know that

And he got the song with the guy from Chicago What's his name? Yeah I didn't know that was Morgan I thought that was Daniel D. What's the street rapper from Chicago? Not Chief Chief.

No. Street rapper from Chicago. Like you were in a dire to dirt. A little dirt. Yeah. I did not know that one more than what. I thought that was Daniel D's, yo. Bro, it's just so obvious when he sets it up.

That little kid laugh. It's really like. Oh my God. You don't have to name of Glass of Malone new album, too. I'm that serious. What? It's cancel these nuts. Oh, really?

Yeah. Oh, shots of glasses, man. All right, so let's talk about it. What's going on with you and Drake? Is this just further brilliant marketing for his album release? Yes. I told y'all this, but nobody believes me because I'm lying. But the reality of the situation is you should believe me even when I'm lying.

This is just what we do. Whenever he has a certain project, a certain song, I don't think he needs it, you know what I'm saying? But he wants me to do it. Oh, so he'll reach out to you and be like, yo, can you trash my single? Yes. I need you to be very critical of this record.

Yeah. And, you know. So then he'll be like, I'm going to make fun of you. Because all attention is good attention. And, you know, it's number one now. What do you want me to say? Oh, my God. So you think it wouldn't have been number one without you?

doing that. No, it would have been number one regardless. It's Drake and Sizzle. You know what I'm saying? It's Drake and Sizzle. Like that is a guaranteed, that's guaranteed to hit the charts. It was funny because I was watching an act, an act was talking about how I probably feel like nobody cares about the record because

it's not on radio. That's not true, though. The way these songs chart is video play and sales. And I was looking at the numbers. You probably can pull them up because I saw it on Billboard. I think he had like 34.6 million screams, 5.4 million radio impressions because the day it came out, I heart played it every hour on

the hour. You know what I'm saying? Like every top of the hour the Drake and Scissor record played. So it wasn't even just playing on hip-hop and R&B stations and playing on the pop stations too because it's Drake and fucking Cizzer. Right. He sold 2,000 copies. He sold 2,000 copies. So I think he was like number 29 digital sales, but the number one most streamed digitally. Drake and Sizzers going to have that kind of curiosity. Right. You're going to go listen to the record. Did you take exception to anything he said about you?

No. He used my jokes against me. That's what I thought was quite interesting. Because you say that as a compliment to yourself. And I don't know if you... Whoa, whoa, whoa, let's be clear. Morris Chestnut says he gets mistaken for me. I don't want to hit no, oh, my God, Taylor.

He said it himself on the Jennifer Hudson show. Very recently, for the first couple of times, They thought I was Charlotte Maine. Charlemagne? Yeah, yeah. Charlie's making full better. You knew you're going to be watching. Why?

Stop. Just think about that. He's an actor. No, I just stopped to think about that. I stopped myself and saying something to you. Wow. That's what I did, ma'am. All right.

Okay. But yeah, this is just something that we do. And you should just believe me, even though I'm lying. And it's so funny to me. This is the funniest shit, man. I'm going to show you this, right? Look at this, right? What is that?

Look at this. Look at this. I love this world that we're in. I love this world that we in. Read that headline. Who's that from, first of all? That's Fader magazine. This is...

Read the headline. I can't see that's Fader because it has these ads up. Oh, Fader, Fader. The headline is, Charlemagne the God says his beef with Drake is planned. Yes. Let me show you another one. Let me show you another one.

This is a really good shit. I love this. I love this type of shit. Because it's true. They just... Hold on. It's true. It is playing.

Okay, this is a good one. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. This is a better one. This is the best thing Drake could have did. It's better than any interview. Hip-B-X.

What does that say? Charlemagne the God comes clean about the Drake feud. I'm part of the album rollout. Never mind the fact that... They quote me saying I'm lying. Don't worry about that. Believe me, even when I'm lying. Okay.

Elaborate on this. What do you mean? So they're printing the most salacious headline, even though you said you're lying. And in the article, they say that you said you're lying. Yes. But they lead with the crazy thing. Nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining.

So true. How many years have I been telling y'all this? So true. He sat in this studio and told two lies back to back about Beyonce, told people we were lying, and they still ran with as a headline. You're right. And right now, I'm telling y'all I'm lying, even though I'm not lying, and you should believe me, me and Drake plan this whole thing out.

So what else are you doing for the rollout? This is it. This is why I always do every rollout. But there's nothing else that special plans. Ever since after the bottles, after back, I'm not going to sit there and say it always was like this. After the back-to-back bottles, that's when we started coming to this. Agreement.

Interesting. Not the first time I've done this. Just go back and watch. Now, are you getting paid for this? Is there some payola? No, it's just fun. You just do it to help a buddy. Two people with six senses of humor.

Six senses of humor. See? I'll see what you did. That's it. So, yeah, for all the dogs in stores, uh, October. October what, Taylor? Yeah, October something.

Would you have preferred an intro? interview or? No. No. I'm not, no. I'm not in, never. I'd be good to have an interview

with you and Drake. I'm not, I'm not interested in that. Where, why? What are you not interested in the interview with Drake? Come on. I like,

for what? I think I'm, I'm Skip Bayless to Drake's LeBron James. Oh. And I'm perfectly okay with that. Oh, wow. Oh, good.

I'm perfectly okay. Because he gets a lot of, he gets a lot of critique from a lot of different people, you know, and I, I think I'm very, very fair now.

Before I was just, I was just hate, I was just fucking with him. You know what I'm saying? I was just, back in the day, I was just taking shots. Like, it was funny. But I think I give a lot of fair critique. I even think this right here, I think this was very fair critique. Oh, wait, about this record. But I don't think Skip is fair to LeBron. I think Skip is.

Yeah, but I'm just using that. I don't think, I don't think Skip is fair to LeBron. But you believe you're being fair now. Now, yeah. I think Skip is fairer now. Oh, really? I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah, he don't have no choice but to be now. early on in LeBron's career, a lot of the things that you could hold over LeBron's head, LeBron has surpassed. I think the reason why I- Skip used to get on LeBron for not being a winner. Yeah. I think the reason why I believe that you guys are in this together, even though that's a lie. It's not.

Believe me when I'm lying. I know. I want to believe you when you're lying. But I think the reason why is because he picked exceptionally handsome. Come on now. I was thinking the same thing. Didn't I say that yesterday? I was like, yo, he picked some really good picks.

Because if he was really angry, you could go get the picks of him. where you look like one of those Bahamian pigs. But he showed the evolution. Like, look, he starts with this. This ain't even that bad. Your color's looking pretty good there. That was 12 years ago. By the way, I looked worse.

I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't even remember I said that. I don't even know what you're talking about. Now the color's a little bit worse. There's three sexual orientations, gay, skater, Drake. But look at these pictures that he posted. I don't even know what this is referencing.

Why are you playing this? I don't want to hear this. Stop bringing me back to the... I don't want to hear the old me. Okay? I am not interested in this crazy motherfucker. Good looking him? Go to the picture where he's looking handsome.

I think he deleted all of them. That's a good picture. And then there's another one where you're like in the same sweater where you can see you where you're like very handsome. Why would he pick the most handsome version of you unless you guys are in this together and this is just part of the roll out? I'm not going to sit here and tell y'all anymore. Believe me when I'm lying. We plan this out. It works.

He's number one in the country. Now, do you make sure that he doesn't put an ugly picture of you up there? Is that part of the agreement? Don't all women pick their pictures before they're posted. Come on, man. What is wrong with y'all? Beautiful black woman over there. Exactly.

See? Come on. I am 50% woman. Yeah, welcome. He is 50% woman. Just like you're a 50% man. You're half man. You're a 50% man and woman.

Yeah. You're half mother half father. What are the ingredients that make you? Your daddy and your mother. Mama's pie. What else we got, Taylor game? Huh? What else we got? You know, look at me? What happened? Teller hit you with the loaded luck. Look at me King. Look at me King. I just dissed you. Oh, what else we got? What else happened this week, man? I don't know how, but the Remy Ma Pappoose drama got on my timeline. I don't even

I'm going to be honest with you. I don't even know why this is being discussed. I think it's because, well, let's set it up. Do you want to set it up? Yeah, here's the thing. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't like talking about this. Because it's not confirmed.

Yeah, man, you got to, like, these people, these people are married. And as a married man, and showed you know, this is, this is one of the rumors I would never want out there. Gotcha. You know what I respect. No, no, no. And it's like, there's nothing to discuss except for. for the gossip of the situation. Yeah.

You know what I mean? When we talk about that's respectful. Taylor and whoever, what's the guy named? Travis Kelsey. We've got things we can actually look at and see and speculate. There's nothing to really speculate here other than just the gossip. There's a video or there's a picture, but yeah, I hear it too soon. What's the picture?

I didn't see the picture. Yeah, Remy, like having, you know, lunch or something. But that's because she's his entertainment manager. Yeah. That's her whole, I think that's the other people. This Chrome 23 is Remy's League. Interesting. Yeah, this is her.

Like, this whole Chrome 23 freestyle thing is Remy's league. Remy is this guy's entertainment manager. You know what I'm saying? And, yeah, even when Remy did this interview, and we were talking about him on Breakfast Club, I was like, yo, I like the way Remy handled it. A lot of people said that they didn't. But for me, it's just like, yo, man,

when you know nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more into the thing. And no matter what you say, motherfuckers aren't going to give a, fuck about the words, they're going to care about what they feel. No, that's a good-ass point. If they feel like, nah, Rimi did that shit, it don't matter what she says. So why give it any energy whatsoever?

Even if she comes out and be like, yo, this shit ain't true. Even though I thought I saw her tweet that, you know what I mean? But it's just like, I know if that was me, I wouldn't want my significant other talking about it in no way shape or form. Regardless of how, what went down? Yeah. That's just me. That's just my personal opinion.

And it is, you know, I know people will be upset like, why don't y'all want to talk about that? It's just like, man, when it comes to shit like that, marriage and gossip of infidelity, come on, man. Did you watch the battle? I did. And what did you think? Oh, did you see Rap Them Battle? There's a guy that was doing the earlier thing called Rap Them? I was close.

You didn't have to repeat it. You didn't have to repeat it. I was close. I was close. I was this close. How close? I was right there. I was right there.

I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. And I was like, and then I heard it. Wrap them lips. I did. I heard it in my head.

I heard it. I heard it. I heard it. Who did you think? won the battle? Who did I think one? I mean, I really only saw one person rap. I saw the guy rapping talking about...

Who made the allegations. Yeah, I only saw him. What else we got, Taylor Gang? I'm glad Usher stopped himself from serenading Gabrielle Union. Yeah, that's funny. Dude to Du to Dwayne Wade. But you know what?

He's disrespectful because he said, knowing how we feel about him, he knows exactly who to sing to when we come see his show in October. Wow. I'm just telling you. I already told him. You're going to be singing to all of us.

Oh, yeah, we're going to do a Boys Night Out. We're going to be singing to all of us. How do we do the Boys Night Out? How do we organize it? Get with an LGBTQ organization. Oh, yeah. But no gays to make it weird. Huh?

Can't be any gays to make it weird. It's got to be all straight men going to see usher. Because if a gay guy's there. You don't know if the guys are straight or not? No, but if a gay guy's there, then it doesn't count. It's not weird that a guy is. hitting on a gay guy because that's what gay people do. What's weird is two straight dudes

singing love songs to each other because we're straight. That's what makes it awesome. Yeah. Bless you. God. Damn. Ooh. What is that? What was that? If Chris is here, he'll be...

Run out the room. He'd be dead? Listen, this is interesting. Yes. Well, all of a sudden... Chris. He's got COVID. Chris comes to work for...

the least amount for an Asian I've ever met in my entire life, yo. Have you ever met an Asian that misses more work than Chris, bro? Have you ever met an Asian that misses? When he runs out of sneakers, he stops coming to work. That's Chris's rule. So stupid, man. Yo, talk to Premium Pete. Get yourself six new pairs of sneakers so we can do this goddamn podcast together, Chris.

Listen, this has become an interesting conversation. Okay. Bobby, what's Bobby's last name? Bobby Altaughtoff. Yeah. Offset is appearing on the latest episode of Bobby What did Bobby have a podcast?

A YouTube show? Yes. Podcast. Okay. Can we hear this exchange? Because I saw some very interesting things said about this exchange. Dang. Because you're Taylor.

No. It's because you're Taylor. Yo. Her being upset of herself. Herbie and upset herself is... Unbelievable. Dang. Dang.

Dang. Because you would think you have it ready to go. You think you try all the clips, play them all on this TV. You do. That's the question. I interview people. Why? Because I want to get to know them. Why do you want to get to know me? I didn't. You did. Your team reached out to mine. Don't cap. That's not cap about that. That's not put. That's not flex for the ground. Uh-oh. CAP. Flag on the play. What was that? Are you trying to make a song right now?

No, it was Cap. Okay. I honestly don't know how this came about. I'm not going to lie to you. Me either. Okay. My team could have reached on tears. I'm not going to.

I don't want to make you look back. They had to show me who Bobby was. I thought there was something about Bobby Bouchet. Never heard of off that in my life. Yes, you have. I have not. I Googled you on the way here. And I read something about you.

I had to go on TikTok. I couldn't even Google you. Can I? Thank you. I had to go TikTok search. I couldn't Google's not there yet. You're not there yet. But you'll be there.

But you're on TikTok. I mean, but they both know what they're doing. This is the point of the interview. I would give Bobby a little bit of advice if I may. I don't know how long this is sustainable because it never truly is for anybody. For people who do what she does, you can go look at the history of it.

But people who do what she does, even when they act informed, it's not sustainable because after a while the joke is kind of up. So, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, what is so awesome about these interviews initially is it's like Ali G or something like that. Yeah. It's like the people don't know so they succumb to the moment. That's right.

Now they know. They're going prepared. They might be defensive. So I don't think that it stops necessarily. But what you have to do is up the joke level. So it's like the joke used to be this person is in this incredibly awkward interview and didn't know. and then the whole thing is this, this like beautiful cringe fest.

So, but now what you have to do is what Zach Alfancas did with the Between Two Ferns, which is, be informed. But also write bits. So he would write jokes

for the guests and for himself. And he would surprise the guests with the jokes. And all of a sudden, now the guest knows they're in this awkward thing, but you still are catching them off guard because you've got an offensive joke that you're our offensive question

that you're asking him. Now, I think her style is a little bit different, but I agree with you, once the guess is in on the stick, it might need another level up. And I think we're saying the same thing. Basically, she's got to be more prepared. To me, this ain't going to last, but for so long.

Because I don't think she's good with conflict. Meaning, like, when somebody starts pushing back at her, I don't think she's witty enough, fast enough to be able to go with it. What you're saying about Zach is great. I haven't watched her. I've watched her clips, obviously. Like, I watched this stuff with Drake, but like...

Full interview, she doesn't do well. Interesting. I believe that. But the interview is supposed to be uncomfortable and awkward. That is the design of the interview. But for the guest. Yeah, the guest... When the host starts looking uncomfortable and awkward,

now the jig is up. I think that's also part of the gig is that she's uncomfortable. Eh, why would you bring this person on your house? I'm sitting on your couch or laying in your bed. To do an uncomfortable, awkward interview. I think, like, this is the... generation of people that grew up watching the office. And the office kind of epitomized, like, cringe humor. Where you have somebody who is behaving in a way that's really uncomfortable

and awkward, but they don't realize they're being uncomfortable and awkward. I like informed uncomfortable and awkward. Sure, sure. I'm just saying that, like, I think this generation saw that and they're like, this is the funniest thing. So that's what funny is. Our generation came up on in living color. It came up on Jim Carrey. It came up on, you know, the Kings of Comedy where people were actively trying to be funny and then it was funny. Yeah, yeah. Whereas this generation is they're pretending they're not trying to be funny and because of that it is. So I think there is a little disconnect generationally.

I wonder if younger people watch this and they're like, oh my God, this is the best fucking interview. Look how awkward it is. I'm sitting in this cringe fest. And we look at it and we're like, you got to have some zingers, you got to have some lines, you got to have something. Yeah, I'm not mad at it. I just...

Right. I'm not mad at it. I've just seen these type of characters enough to know it's not sustainable. That's why all of these, all little, like all of those shows come and go. But they're good. They have a lot of impact when they're on, but they don't last. Right. Jamel Hill said, I don't find these types of interviews particularly enjoyable or interesting. Instead, it just sadly points out how real hip hop journalism has been practically erased. Some of the media teams behind these artists aren't interested in them sitting down with credible people who know how to tell stories and do quality interviews. then they wonder why an artist's real story goes untold, neglected, or that artist is misunderstood. I disagree with that take because I feel like people go to Bobby to just have fun to show another side. That's not who I go to to sit down to have one of those real intriguing interviews. She's looking at through the wrong lens. Yeah, I can go to Rap Radar, 100%. Sit with L&MV dot and then go to Bobby. I can go to Sway and then go sit with Bobby. I can go sit with Angie Martinez and then go joke around with Bobby. Yeah, 100%. I think I just figure something out.

Right now, most people are digesting, like, first generation content on like TikTok, YouTube shorts or IG Reels. And an awkward, uncomfortable interview like this is going to create the most cringe-worthy TikTok's, IG Reels, YouTube shorts that are going to go the most viral. An in-depth, beautiful, curious interview is not going to create a 30-second moment as likely where you're like, oh, my God, this is going to explode all over the internet. But these awkward interviews

are going to curate the content that explodes all over the internet, which is cringe-worthy interactions. This is really popular. So the style... Yeah, cringes in. Cringes in. So the style...

All my old clips won't die. So the style is successful in creating clippable content, And because of that, it will continue to proliferate the internet. Yeah, I mean, listen, as long as artists keep going up there, like, she's always going to make these kind of waves. You know what I think? I think he's really aware of culture.

You know what I mean? Like, he just did the stream with Kai. They did like a 24-hour stream. That was great. And, like, it felt from the things I was watching from the stream, and that's another thing with streaming, 24-hour streaming, you can clip the funny little awkward moment that is unplanned.

You know what I'm saying? that can be so easily taken out. And the cool thing about that is like it felt like Offset was a fan of Kai and aware of the culture, and he was in on it. He wasn't begrudgingly doing an interview. He was there like, yo, we're going to create some moments

and this is good. And the same thing is kind of happening with this. So he's aware of internet culture. I wonder if that still translates into record sales and stuff. So the tricky, I'd be meaning to ask you about this. Maybe we discussed it already.

If we discussed it already, my bad. But Burner Boy, right? has an album that comes out. Okay? Prior to this album coming out, he's selling out stadiums. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we're talking about

one of the biggest music acts in the world. Stadiums, not stadiums where he's from. Stadium's here. Album comes out, and I think it does maybe $55,000 or something like that. In America, yeah. And it was America.

No, I told you cat was 55,000. I forgot how much burner boy was. I would look, but you would think for an act this big, that the number would be bigger. And I think it was Russ who said, this is evidence that labels are buying streams. Duh.

So talking about when I'm saying, duh, I'm a casual, bro. I'm like, I can't believe people are doing this. So when I say things, like, when I say things like, yo, you see a song and a song might hit number one, but you don't really feel it. All I'm saying is nowadays. You can buy a number one is what you're saying.

Now, back in the day? You can manipulate a number one. Back in the day, you could also buy a number one and manipulate a number one. And this is the number one thing that the record labels want. What they want is control of the outcome of their projects.

That's why they had the labels and the connections to you guys and they were trying to do payola back in the day for people who don't know, they were trying to pay off DJs to play records and because they feel if you can get a record out there enough it can reach a skate velocity and be good. Now with streaming, for a moment,

with SoundCloud and all those rappers, they had no control and they're freaking out. Now it looks like if you can buy stream, and you can make a number one go. Anybody can be quote-unquote number one, but we don't know if it's actually real. And this Burnaboid thing is evidence that, like, this guy had stadium sold out

and if he's doing 55K, something's off, no? Duh. That's all obvious. Maybe I'm saying the most obvious thing. Sorry, no, no, no, no. You're not saying the most obvious thing. You're just saying what a lot of people don't necessarily say.

But this is Russ. I saw the, do you see the Russ? Russ is fucking on it. That motherfucker's been on it for a lot. last 10 years about the music industry. But there's another thing to that, too, I do think that, and I say this to Cardi all the time. If I was Cardi, I would never drop another album.

Two singles? I would single the game to death. Because I don't know if people care about whole bodies of work like they used to. You know, I've said this. Now, if you're Kendrick Lamar, you can put out a whole body of work because Kendrick don't put out a lot of music. You've trained people to care about the body of work. That's right.

But if you are somebody who just puts out singles that's not cohesive unit, I agree with you. And you can hold culture for longer. That's right. Drop a low key, you know who did this? Six-nine. Six-nine was doing song, song, song, song, song, song. And the songs were charting.

And it wasn't until he dropped an album that I think it didn't do as well or whatever. But still, it's like you had culture when you were dropping songs. I think there's album artists. Some artists are just built for albums. And then I think there's single stars. You know what I mean? And I think that might even be the case. case with a, you know, Doja Cat.

And, you know, Doja, Doja had a great rollout. She had a phenomenal rollout, an actual rollout, right? And Painter Town Red was number one. It's number two this week. And it's a, you can tell, Patentown Red is a real number one record. You hear it. You hear it out and about, you hear it in the club. You hear it coming from cars. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know people fuck with that record. The video got like 70 plus million views on YouTube. Like, you know people fuck with that record. She's number two. this week, but her album only sold 55,000 copies. So you're like, what the fuck gives? So maybe that's the real number, like that 55,000 around that ballpark.

Yeah. Probably real number. And then everything else is inflated. Or maybe the 55,000 is the real number for the album. But the single, people just like singles. Like, people might just want to hear a song. Like, they might not want to hear the whole body of work. Oh, of course, of course.

I'm just saying, like, like, Al's going, what is a metric for success? And if a major artist gets 55K, and then this, and then Doja dropped, and it got 55K, who's also a major artist, you go,

maybe that's what success is. When we were growing up, it was a million, right? It went platinum. Now, and then it started to fluctuate, and I think we came to an understanding, like, between 100 and 200 is really successful. Maybe it's more like 55,

and then a lot of things have been bought or they're selling those, like, Package thing. The merch and all that. But even with somebody like Doja, I know Doja can probably still sell out a venue. Easy. You know? And we know Burnaboy definitely still selling out arenas all over the country. That's the tricky thing.

You know? The hardest thing to do is get people to come out to your show. It is not hard to get people to click a link and then listen to your music. That's easy. Getting people to put clothes on, get a babysitter, getting the fucking Uber. Yeah. Like, buy all those tickets. That's hard.

And we got to start. Like, that's what I mean when I be saying, we know when people, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Shabler. Care about a song. I'm sorry. You're telling me that Burnaboy put 80,000 people in a stadium. And only 55,000 of those people that came out to see him bought his album, something's all. Something's off.

Something's off my jean. But you can feel it, though. 30,000 of those people that went out to go see and were like, I don't need to look at the new album. I don't buy it. How they're judging the streams is weird. I'm trying to tell you. Something is all. I'm trying to tell you.

Why aren't people having this conversation? They are. Well, because they're tied to the labels and they want the benefit of the label. They want the label to pump their shit. They want the label to make them go number one. Why would they expose themselves? Jake Cole Ben said, he said, what do you say?

Oh, Jake Cole? Artists picking their screen. They ain't as big as they seem. Like, people have been saying shit like this is. That's not, like, that is talking about it, but why aren't radio? Why aren't more artists speaking up? Like, but I think to Andrew's point,

it's like nobody wants to. Radio, it's not their business. Yeah, and radio, to be honest, honest with you, man, you can have conversations with radio people. Only thing they can be responsible for is what they do. Like, Drake had 5.4 million impressions. Why? Because Drake and Cizzer worked for radio.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, they work for radio. When it comes to the screams, they don't got nothing to do with that, you know? But they all go hand in hand. But if you can, you know, get 40, 50 million screams of a record and then another couple three million impressions on radio, you're going to chart. high. You know what I'm saying? You probably will have a number one.

Listen, every single industry tries to create some form of control. When I say control, I don't mean like they want to control the people. They want to control their ability to generate revenue, be it's security and safety for them. It's a very normal thing. For example, I'm sure there's rules that say you can't just open a bank, right? Who does that benefit? The banks that are already open. There's rules that say you can't even be a barber in New York unless you get a license. Who does that help? That you already barber, right?

So you create some sort of moat. In music, they have these stars that are signed to these big deals that they have to recoup that money. How can, they're gonna grab us some water. How can we make sure, thank you so much, Tyler, you just gave it to me right now.

How can we make sure, thank you there. I got it. Thank you. How can we make sure that they can protect their investment by having fail safes? Oh, we don't have a number one song, really,

or we don't have a number one album? Well, let's make it a number one because the fact that it is number one makes other people want to listen to it. I know when I go on Spotify and I find someone who I haven't heard of before, you know what I do? First thing I do, I go for their most played song.

Yeah. I just go off the number. If somebody's watching a stand-up clip from me, they probably go to my most viewed stand-up clip, my most viewed special. That number does influence people. And let the record show there are a lot of artists who have rapid, built-in fan,

basis that whatever they drop, people are going to go consume. You know what I'm saying? Drake is one of those. Nikki Minaj is one of those. Kendrick Lamar is one of those. Jay Cole is one of those. Beyonce? Beyonce is definitely one of those.

Taylor? Taylor? Taylor could drop the music she already dropped and they go on it. Taylor, Taylor Swift definitely won't. Nobody else could do that. 100%. She couldn't drop the music she already dropped. Not sure.

No, Taylor, we got to be. honest with this Ramon. No, she happens. Taylor. Caleb? No. And they didn't do it with Taylor. Taylor put out a re-read, a new, whole,

a same album with an old song, and that shit is a million copies. I hate having to win these arguments. I hate having to win these arguments. But some people just have those rapid built-in fan bases that's going to immediately scream whatever. And, you know, once radio gets a hold of the record and plays that shit every hour on on the hour, they're going to be through the roof, you know? But it is very hard to tell.

what's what nowadays. And that's exactly how I would want it. If I was in control, I would want the ability to manipulate things in the favor of my artists, which put more money in my coffers, right? I wouldn't want everything to be left up to chance. Yeah.

It's the same reason why you probably sign music producers, right? Like you have an exclusive deal with, I don't know, what is it called? Like I imagine if you have like a really good music producer, A label. A label goes, hey, we would like to sign your exclusivity so you just work for all our honors. Of course, because if you know that they're great at creating songs,

you want to find a way to protect that brilliant creation. How can you just create for us? That's successful. Yeah. Maybe it might be an overall streaming thing, because even look at the TV streamers, they're funny with the numbers, they don't give it. They'll never let you see the numbers.

That's why I'm so interested about this writer's strike And what terms did they come to? Also, on the streaming thing. On Twitter, you can see Tucker Carlson's show. The numbers are astronomical. I'm not saying that he's not, those are fake numbers, but they could count literally just viewing it in the scroll as a number, which is kind of like what TikTok is too.

You see it for a second, you scroll, they still count it. But they have the ability to put it on everybody's scroll. Yeah. So they can essentially create whatever fucking numbers they want. But they do that with music, too. Like, you can take a single or an album. Put it on every playlist. Put it on top of every playlist.

Like, what the fuck? There's some hip-hop albums you see on gospel playlist. And what if you own the playlist? It's like, come on, bro. We know what the fuck's going on? What if you own the playlist? That's the thing. Or what if you don't own the place, but you're doing payola with the playlist?

You telling me that they're not doing some payola to, what's the big place? You don't think of people, some people of getting some form of handshake? No, definitely. So, I mean. I don't know if it's. specifically. Let's say it's not. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe people that the actual service,

screaming service, they wouldn't be right. Yeah. But I don't fucking know. I don't want to accuse people and stuff like that, you know what I mean? But there is money business going on. You would hope that they wouldn't. Let's say we hope they would.

But it wouldn't be surprising if offers have been made. Yeah, absolutely. Our exchanges. Hey, we'll have your, we'll have our artists perform at. Simple as that. You know, this event or whatever. You know what I mean? things like that happen, man.

We're talking about music right now, okay? Let's just put this in the context. If a drug company wants your doctor to recommend a heart medication to you, he takes your doctor on a vacation. He sends your doctor to the Bahamas. He gives your doctor Super Bowl tickets. And then in exchange for that,

it's kind of known that you're going to start prescribing this heart medication. That's right. If people are willing to do that for your life, you don't think they're going to do that for us that's right that's right

and listen all you got to do is just pay attention those same charts just pay attention what does that mean will it be there next week oh

are those times when you see shit come out and it's like five songs in the top 10 from one album or something like that

then next week they're all just gone you know what I'm saying oh wow you know what I mean just pay attention that's all you got to do because a lot of times

nowadays like I said you have some artists who have rapid fan bases and curiosity you say rapid one more time it's rabid what's rapid the testing for COVID yeah oh rapid right so you have people who have rabies fan bases and when you have these rabies fan bases like they'll run out curiosity makes them go check the music out screams up yeah and that counts you know what I mean but then what happens the next week yeah is their longevity what happens That's all I'm saying. That's all I be saying, man.

Yeah, rapid is like there's white water rapids or rapid is really fast. Rabid is this. You want to do Squarespace? You thought it was a rabbit? I thought it was rapid. Like, how you were saying it? Me too. But you learn something every day.

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She just loved Travis Kelsey so much. No, I'm saying. Just fucking. Does anybody know what Taylor just said? Phenna. She's trying to find her place. She was black, he'll be jailing her. If Travis, she said if Travis Kelsey was black,

she said if Travis Kelsey was black, he'd be jailing hers. Yeah, once again, I don't know what the fuck Taylor's talking about, man. None of us do. What asking idiots we got, Taylor? Let's see here. If you could trade lives with someone for one week, who would you trade with? Shotsie.

His wife, so he could date him. Yeah Yeah No God, that's so weird Like what would I trade one week I wouldn't trade live With nobody Because I love being me

So I could get fucked Fucked by Travis Kelsey What if that's the week That person dies Yeah Is it a rap for you too? Oh shit If you die in that character

You are dead Oh yeah You know what I mean? Is it a rap for you too? No What if you die is that person And you get to heaven But your spirit

Is what's been keeping the record of your life. So now you might have been this pure person. And then boom. But you got this spirit in you that's committed a lot of sins. So God is judging you based off the spirit. God's like, Daddy, what did you do all of this?

I've been watching you all this. What did you do all of this? Yeah. You know? So yeah, I wouldn't trade lives with nobody. I'm happy being me. That's the reason why those? That's a fantastic reason. Okay, what else? The question is for you, Taylor. Empty Chad, Texas. If you could try any animal meat,

illegal or legal, what would you try? You should try Taylor specifically. Okay, why? I don't know what they asked. Did you say Taylor? Have you tried bear? Oh, that says empty chair tech. I'm sorry. That's empty chair tech. I'm my bad. Have you tried bear before? Or

venison? Or Sugon? Have you tried that? Why are you looking at me like that? I got my and joke three ladies. What? It's not a joke. I'm waiting to hear what you say, crazy human. That's so good. you tried Sugon? What?

Oh, this is not! Yo, Taylor, how you got caught? I knew right when I said, how the hell you get caught like that? What Asian dish is that? Yo, Sugon.

I've tried a lot of animal meats, I don't even know what to tell you. Yeah? What's your favorite? Bear shoulder. Have you really tried bear shoulder? Yeah, I had, no, it wasn't fried.

I had bear shoulder in West Virginia. I had squirrel dumplings. I've had deer meat. What else have I tried? Frog leaves? Oh, I've had frog legs. Frog legs are good. Frog legs are really good.

You know what's surprisingly good? Rapid cheese. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. I really be trying to be right there too. I know, you're so excited.

You're so excited. You're so excited. A little kid. Oh, my God, man. Who's there? Who's there? Oh, my God. All right, what else we got, Taylor?

What animal would you want to try? Um, I would like to try. What? about some dinosaur meat. Oh, that'd probably be good as well. Yeah. Yeah, man. Like some dinosaur meat. That should be fire. Yeah, some broncosaurus. You know what I mean? Some T-Rex or something like that.

The T-Rex would be good as a lot. That little T-Rex chicken wing. Dolphin. They do. Don't they have that? Isn't that in the tuna sometimes? Oh, you know? Really? Why not? Just doesn't smoke it. We hear that. We hear that. Hey, we hear that. Hey, we hear that. What kind of lesbian are you telling you. Tell her. What kind of lesbian?

Tell her we hear that. What kind of lesbian are you telling? What kind of lesbian are you telling? I thought you was a real lesbian all of this time. You know what I'm saying? You letting the smell stuff. You tell her. You ain't a real lesbian, yo.

You got a power through that. You're a little vacation. Read out your mouth. You're a vacation lesbian, yo. Dex Wallace said, What are your thoughts on the theory of industry Planted music? Doesn't exist. Shut up.

Yo, now you don't need a plantum. Now that you could, you know, fuck the, fuck with the streams. But even, but there's never, there's no such thing as an industry plant. Oh, I hear it. What would an industry plant be doing?

Like, what's the point of an industry plant? Someone we look at that doesn't have that much talent and then all of a sudden, they just pop really quickly. And usually those people tend to not stay around. we say these things about who we think doesn't have talent and we forget one thing

and one thing only and that's talent is subjective. So what you don't like doesn't mean millions of other people don't. That's just a reality in a situation. You know? So it's just like anybody you name there's an audience for. Period. There's not one person you can name

who there's not an audience. I thought industry plan also is whoever they're connected to. That's what the same issue. If that's the kids, we're all industry plans. Yeah. Everybody who's not an industry plant, everybody's connected to somebody in some way, shape of form. Okay, this isn't music, but say the girl we were talking about earlier, Bobby Altaugh. Yeah.

Like they say she's an industry plant because she just started podcasting and her first or second. No, y'all just started paying attention to her. Yeah, I don't think she's been on TikTok popping. No, she's been on TikTok, but she just started a podcast. Which most people are doing. Listen, man, you'd be surprised. Most people get Drake on their second episode. No, but she had some very successful episodes.

and my assumption is that Drake was like, oh shit, this girl's going crazy on the internet. If we did an episode, it would go crazy. And this is just going to help continue to fuel the release. And who's Drake's best, who's one of Drake's best friends? Yadi. But Yadi did it after.

Yeah, he did. No, yada did it before. No, no, no, no. He called and during Yadi's interview, Drake called him. He was like, yeah, I just did her. Yeah. Yeah.

Yadi came out first. No. No. No show about this, yo. 100%. But, um. I remember seeing Yachty before that. But they're signed to the same agency.

Who? Who is? Drake and Bobby Ato. Yeah, but everybody, these agencies have thousands of. But I mean, you don't think that makes it easier to possibly get somebody like, hey, we're trying to make this. I'm signed to the same agency as LeBron. We haven't had LeBron on the pot. You know what I mean?

Like, there can be a message sent to an agent, but it doesn't mean it's going to go. There has to be, this girl was undeniably blowing up the internet. You got to give her credit for the. that and then other people see that they're blowing up the internet and then they go, well, I got a project coming out. I need to blow up the internet this work. That's my assumption.

No, Yadi did it first, y'all. No. Yeah, Yadi did it in July. Drake did it in August. No. Unless I'm looking at it right now. Drake's got taken down. Drake's got taken down in August.

They took it down a week after it went out. No. Guarantee. I don't think you're all right about this one. They might just put Drake's out, but Yadi definitely. No, no, no, no. Drake's was out first. Drake's was out first 100%.

I don't think so. I don't fucking know. All right, next one. What else we got? Um, okay, how do I get rid of my sneaky link of six years? He does not want to leave me alone. Well, you shouldn't have been letting him hit raw. Yeah.

You letting him hit raw, you're sucking his dick, you eating his ass. He was eating his ass. He was eating his ass. You're doing that shit for six fucking years and not saying nothing. Yeah. Now you want him just to leave you? alone? Why you wanted to leave you alone all of a sudden? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got to give them a reason why you're taking that

taking that good good back. That's true. You got to get married or something. That's not a sneaky link. Well, she might have been cheating. That's the point she's not saying. She might have been cheating. Now she want to be a faithful black queen. You know what I'm saying? Now she want to be faithful and she don't want her sneaky link anymore. Yeah, that's fucked up, bro. Yeah, you fucked up. You fucked up. And also, how do you get rid of just don't call them anymore? Tell them not to come over. Like, it's very easy. That's a whole other relationship, by the way. Yeah, that's that relationship.

If you've been fucking somebody else for six years, I know you unprotected. Like I said, I know you're sucking dick. I know you eating ass. If you've been doing that shit for six years, I want to tell your husband on you. Yo, low-key. Whoever you sneaky leaking around on,

I want to tell that person on you. I mean, she put her Instagram on here. Jack Queens underscore A-K-U-A. Jack Queen, J-A-C-Q-U-E-N-S-U-U-N-S-U-A-K-K-E-S-A-K-K-E-E-S-U-A-K-E-A-K-E. Whoever your king is needs to be informed of your behavior. Now, maybe you've told him. That's why you have no problem letting us know what's going on. So I will say to your sneaky link, hey, Jack Queens underscore AKUA is asking the brilliant idiots for help.

That's how you know she's desperate. Okay? Is the sneaky link only part you have a relationship, though? Because what if she's, like, messing around with her boss and she won't know else to know or something? Yeah, that could be a stinky list. How have you guys Did we put a button on the Industry Plant conversation? Put one on it

Because it is interesting though but I think I do think what Bobby had a following on TikTok Yes This I know Yes And I think that some people just pay attention to more of that Than others and like yo you may not

We may not have heard of Bobby But if Bobby's over on TikTok Getting millions of views Exactly That don't mean Drake or whoever didn't know who she was I think we're quick Yeah so he decided

I'm gonna go sit down with this person. That's just a personal decision, personal choice. Like, yeah. And she took off. Like, those are the things you hope for as a media personality. Or you hope that you're making enough noise. One hundred. That somebody decides, you know what? I want to come sit down with said individual.

Like, all you need is one to take you to that next level. Yeah. It happens. Yeah. You know, I can look at somebody like even Looney with the It's Up There podcast. Like, little baby decided to go to Looney's show because he was a personal fan of Looney's show. Because he was a personal fan of Looney's show because he was listening to Looney's show because he liked what Looney was talking about

but he decided hey I want to go sit with that person when my album comes out that's the area that we're in a label can't make you do anything your manager can't make you do anything your agent can't make you do anything you go do the shows

that you feel comfortable doing because the reality is it don't matter where a little baby goes to sit you're going to go check for that interview it don't matter where Drake goes to sit you're going to go check for that interview you know so

once something like that happens, you're out of here. You're out of here. Yeah, that's tricky. But, yeah, but I don't think there's any such thing as an industry plan because I don't even know what the fucking point would be. Let's do two more. Ooh, this is a good one. DJ Mike Torch says, how do you guys stay sane

when you are being attacked by the media? It's easy. Okay, how? Don't open your phone. Yeah, number one, don't open your phone. But number two, you have to understand attacks are going to happen. That's the era where... Let me ask you all the question.

I want to ask you this question, DJ Mike Torch and everybody listening. When you ever seen somebody getting loved on by the media? Bro. That's so rare. And no clicks in that, bro. I don't care who you are. You just have to understand that the love, 95% of the time, outweighs whatever hate that you're getting. Also, keep in mind, from those articles that you brought up from reputable sources,

they're not even really looking into what you're saying. It's just how can we dunk on somebody? That's right. Dunking is what gets clicked. We were talking about this on a pod yesterday. I actually have a theory that the media media has a certain amount, the people that work there, the journalists, might have a certain amount of impressions they have to hit

in the same way that a cop has a certain amount of tickets they have to give out. Absolutely. Absolutely. So I would love to see somebody do a study where they track the most salacious hit pieces to the end of the quarter when they need to hit their impressions. And I bet you,

this is what I'm assuming. I bet you towards the end of the quarter when you need to see the impressions, all of a sudden here comes the Elon Musk hit piece. All of a sudden here comes the Charlemagne hit piece, the Rogan hit piece. All of a sudden here comes the Dave Portnoy hit piece. The people that they know that they can get clicks out of, that are guaranteed clicks.

The Kanye went, well Kanye do it to himself, But sure. But it's like, they're like, oh, I need to get my impressions. Here I can go to the well. That's why the best thing to do sometimes, if you're a person that's being attacked, don't acknowledge it because of exactly what show said. Yeah.

Because, all right, you put that out there. You're going to get your shit, but I'm not going to put no fuel on this fire. The only. You're not going to get no clicks for me being able to say, Charlemagne response and such and such. I respond to shit that benefits me. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes it might benefit you to clear the air, right?

Never. See, I disagree. I think with Portnoy, right? He will go back 100% on anybody who says anything about him, right? But the angle that he's going with is I have to rectify the image of me that they have now tainted. Whereas... He can't change it, though. But he can change it.

Never shows... No, I disagree. I usually agree with you, but that, the way he handled this last situation, like, it changed my outlook on that. Because, like, he made the media look like, oh, this is some corrupt. Dave Port. No, he owns Barso. He got when that they were doing a hit piece on him, right? Calls the girl who's writing the hip piece, records it live and just shows her flubbing over her words.

Oh, no, no, no, no, we didn't mean to send that out. Oh, no, no, no. And he's like, were you going to give me a fair shake? Like, were you going to end up? Oh, yeah, we were going to do that. And I'm like, why did you say all these horrible things to me to our sponsors? Oh, that's just a journalistic tactic because we wanted to elicit a type of response, like, exposes their whole game. Sure.

And I'm not saying that's wrong, but there's plenty of people out there who feel like Dave Portnoy is racist. That's not going to change. But it changes. When people have their mind made up about you, to your point, you can stop a media outlet from putting some shit out about you. You can do that. Right. But once people have a perception to you, they're not changing that. And I think what he's doing now is like he's not letting that perception happen.

Go any further. Exactly. It's going to happen regardless of. So the people that are going to hate you are going to hate 200 percent. But at least the people that know you can consume your side of the story. And now we have the power to put that out if we care. I agree with you. But the people that fuck what you're going to, they already know your side.

I agree with you. You don't respond to everything and you should respond to the things that you do. And I agree with you. That is the correct strategy. But there are always moments where you're always going to be moments where you're like, okay, I need to clear this up. And the beautiful thing about having podcasts is we can do that now. Back in the day.

That shit is like herpes, bro. I'm like. What do you mean? No clearing enough. No, no, no, I'm saying, like, let's say, for example, right? I've learned the worst place for your reputation to live than somebody's imagination. And we live in this era where no, but we always say that,

feelings over facts, but truth be told, nobody gives a fuck about truth. How I feel about Andrew's show is how I feel. No, no, no, I don't care what y'all say. Yep. He's this. Oh, no, no, no, I don't care what you say about Sholomey. He's this. Yep.

Like, once people have their mind made up, their mind is made. up and there's nothing you can do to change it. I actually laugh at people who are master manipulators who put certain narratives out there about people and then people on the internet run with it. I'm not even joking. I sit back at home

and I laugh my ass off. And to answer Mike Torch's question again, the reason it don't bother me because I know the truth about me. That's the other thing. The more that you know the truth about you, I think the specific question, well, is it? How do you guys say saying? I think the first thing is if you're being accused of any

or people are painting you in a certain light, do they have any validity? If they don't, then you're good. And if they're portraying you in a certain way, make sure you know why you said that thing and you can defend why you said that. Once you know why you said it and you can defend it to yourself, for me, I realize it's easy

because the second I ever get asked it, slam dunk, pre-row line, bang. Nobody knows you like you. That's it. Nobody knows me like me. So not to rehash this, and I know it wasn't the media, but let's say with the Remi Ma's situation, the guy puts out some,

or alludes to her cheating, if she doesn't say anything, now everybody's just running while with this thing. Alex, I'm asking for people. People are already running while with it, but I think it helps the fact that at least she's come out and said this is a lot. But if she was quiet about it.

Two things about that. Number one, even if she says this is the lie, it's going to be a whole lot that's going to say no, she's lying. Bro, I did see that too. Who is that for? The only person she owes any, explanation too is her husband. But you think if she don't say nothing? Who is that for though,

Alex? Yeah, but her husband might also care what people think. It's very normal for people to care what other people think. That we are communal creatures and it's our reputation within the group is always going to be valuable to us. So what if he doesn't, though? And if he doesn't, that's beautiful and that they have a very strong love and that's awesome. The thing that what you were saying is, um, sometimes, or to back up Charlemais's point, is like even when she came out and said, nah, that's just battle rap, they're just doing whatever.

Which is true. There were even people who went, nah, she's lying right now. So it just proves what they felt is that she did something bad. Even with facts, they were still disregarding the facts.

And also too, man, if I'm, but I hear what you're saying. It's like, but for the people that feel, that she is still loyal, she didn't cheat, that was enough for them to be.

be like, okay, she's good. And if she didn't say anything, those people are like, Alex. A little suspicious. I'm going to ask all this once again, though. Who is that explanation for? That's the other thing. We don't owe nobody, none of these motherfuckers an explanation about nothing. If your husband are significant, other feels embarrassed, and they

want that to be clarified. Let me ask you a question. God forbid, God forbid. Don't even say. Right. Don't even say. But let me ask you. Dylan Dennis and Logan Paul with and all this stuff, Dylan Dennis is putting out about Logan Paul's

fiance. Like, he needs to come out and say something because I'm sure that's affecting their house back at home. He's selling a fight. He's probably going there and knock his fucking ass out. Yeah, but all the talks over there. But clearly, it's bothering her because she needed to sue and do her auto protection.

And Logan's saying that I'm going to fuck him up. You sue him. Handle it at that way. And when I get in the ring, I'm going to beat this dog shit out of it. He also... He said the earlier in Breakfast Club. What? But Kiki Palmer, you said that

she's saying, mind your business of her and her boyfriend or whatever. That's not a rumor. She was asked a direct question about her and her boyfriend. And Kiki said, mind your business. Are they together? But I'm going to tell you why that's Null and Boyd. He was in the video with Usher.

If it was just the dancing at the show, cool. Yeah, tell them people mind their business. But you did a whole video with Usher. Did your man feel away about that? That's a valid question. I think that's a very, very valid question. But to say this, I would come back around about this, if your woman cheating on you,

would you care more about whether she, or no, if there was a rumor that you're a woman cheating on you, would you care more about, did she actually cheat on you, or what everybody thought about, thought about it? Of course, if it actually had to know. Exactly. Once I know the truth,

I don't give a fuck what your motherfuckers think. You're at a place where you can do that. There's a lot of people that are going to be very sensitive to public perception. Yeah. And I understand. That's in security for no reason. Because if it don't affect your bank account.

People are insecure for no reason, too. You know this. I'm with you, but if it don't affect your bank account, if it's not affecting your career, if it's not affecting your business, who cares with these nosy-ass motherfuckers on line? I definitely don't know. Because that's your wife!

That's your wife! That's your wife. I don't care with it. I don't care what the fucking Twitter. I need you to go on Twitter right now and tell everybody you ain't cheat on me. You fucking idiot. What? As soon as you do that, you be like,

Oh yeah, they did it. They did it. Why would they be getting online to tell everybody they didn't if they did? As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant.

You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple idiots you don't know shit, you're right too. It's a brilliant idea this podcast. Thank you for listening.