The Brilliant Idiots - Tayoncè In The Mirror

Episode Date: August 17, 2023

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I love the premise of this show. Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit. Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby. The Brilliant Idiots Podcast. Yep, Sholomey and the guy. Hold on. Sorry.

I had to prepare myself. I have to prepare myself. Andrew Shultz. We are the brilliant idiot. Podcast. Back for another week of Brilliant Idiotness. Shult for putting me on the... Oliver Anthony, bro.

Oliver Anthony. Oh. Yeah. That was jelly roll. No, that's Wango. Wango, that's his name? White Django, that's what we call. White Jango.

That's Wango. Oliver Anthony, taking over to country charts. Country music, White Soul is back. Salute the big, salute to Duango. It's really one of these things that she's trying to rile me up even in the beginning.

We didn't even get five minutes in the episode for a show. She's trying to rile me up. Me for what? She always trying to rile me up. Why? She gets me all riled up, and then she gets angry and me

that I'm riled up at her. How was your week? It was great until 20 seconds ago when Taylor started wowing me up again. Did I tell you I met Jelly Roll? I hope so. What are you doing? What are you doing now? Come on now.

What are you doing? What are you doing? No, I just met Jelly Roll. Where did you meet him? He was at the radio station. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was at the radio station. And why are you laughing?

I just like, I knocked on the jelly roll coolest. He's the coolest motherfucker on the planet, but you laughing. I know the joke, but I'm not going to act like I know the joke. Wait, do you work with, do you work with jelly roll every day? Yeah. Don't yaw me. Don't yell me. Because you keep it going.

He's right. He tries to rile me up. But you keep it going. But he tries to rile me up every single time, too. Both of y'all rile me up every day. I come in here peaceful. I took a nice deep breath before the podcast started. You did.

You did. I tried to get my chakras, right? And you round me up and you round me up. But that's how Taylor makes people feel. I tell her that all the time. That's why I'll be lighting candles and shit at the station doing the politics. People will be like, why are you doing this?

I say because of Taylor, because of her. Yeah, you got my fucking cholesterol high. You don't even be in the studio. You know what we see it. She's the reason why you're calcified. She's the reason why you're on the way here, Taylor said some shit to me, right? And I said, you're just saying this to me, because you want me to say it on the pod.

I know this. No. Okay. Oh, woo, who. Good idea. She's like, I'm going to Tampa. So we're, she's like, no, first you got to leave a podcast early. I said, oh, where, why?

I got to go to LaGuardia. No, I said, where are you going? She goes LaGuardia. I said, yeah, but where are you going? Yeah, yeah. She goes Tampa. And I go, oh, what's in Tampa? Beyonce.

Are you going all the way to Tampa to see Beyonce? She's like, oh, yeah, me and my friend Taylor. Taylor don't exist. Yes, she does. Yo, you sound crazy. You're going alone to Beyonce, yeah? You guys sound crazy. She's been telling us about this person, Taylor, who's supposed to be her best friends.

I have several pictures of. Taylor, if you go on my ID, on side underscore Tee. You should have several pictures of Taylor on Taylor's ID. You're so annoying. What the fuck? This person doesn't exist, but she's going all the way to

camera to see Beyonce to hang with Taylor, her imaginary frame. What you need to do is go to Taylor Swift. That's what you need to do. That's what you need to go to Taylor. I'm just saying, I went to Taylor, by the way. You saw Taylor?

This is the greatest live concert I've ever seen in my life. The only person you can compare Taylor Swift to is Michael Jackson. Stop! There's nobody else. You're doing a disrespect and a disservice to any other artist. If you compare Taylor Swift to that. I'm being honest to you, I know there's a lot of cops.

You know. You know. You know. You know. You already know. Come on, bro. Come on. Oh, you think you're the only one that can rile?

You think you're the only one that can rile? You think you're the only one that can rile? I tell you something, okay? Taylor Swift I heard it's amazing though Oh I heard it's like a stage play I did hear that show

It is The most amazing live concert I've ever seen It's not even close The only person You can compare To see Beyonce I've seen Beyonce

No you haven't No you have to stop But here's the thing There's no question Beyonce is a much better dancer There's no question that He's a much better singer There's no question

Beyonce is a generational talent. A talent like Beyonce does not come along. What I'm trying to say is you're doing a disservice to Beyonce to compare her to Taylor Smith. Because Taylor is in another galaxy. Yeah. You know, all jokes is out.

And I mean this, and this is going to hurt feelings here, but I don't even like comparing them because Beyonce is you get that once in a generation, maybe once in a century you get a Beyonce, right? I hate the comparison. It sucks. We have to compare them. But she's not even, it's not even

Salute to my boy. Taylor, Taylor should have put out, like, you don't realize when you sit there. I was a Taylor hater. I'm going there because my wife wants to go, and I'm like, I've been making fun of this girl for a decade. I've been hating on her. I felt like such a phony.

Within one song, I'm standing up. I knew you were trouble when you walked in. Listen, saluted my boy, Frosty, man. Frosty listened to the last episode of Brilliant Nias, and he texts me a news report of how I said, Beyonce's tour. is going to gross $500 million. It's like the highest grossing R&B tour ever.

Say R&B, though. Make that loud. And I go. Make that laugh. And I text them back and I go, well, Taylor's estimated to gross like $1.4 billion. Like they're saying Beyonce's whole tour is going to be $500 million, but she's already like at $400 million now. Like shows done. Like I think it was within 22 shows, she was over $300 million.

Number one highest grossing tour of the year so far. And Frosty's going back and forth And I go Frost. I want to be right about this. Right? But the reality is when we're talking about just the numbers wise, Taylor's smoking shit.

Forget, forget. It's not even numbers. It's like you're looking at this tour. The person who does the stage. I read that article too. The person who does the stage design is also the Taylor Swift stage design.

The person that does the choreography. Bro, she's like generous. She is a new person on the tour. She takes a moment to shout them out. hey, here's her new guitarist. Here's a new penis. Give it up for them. This is my new penis.

You, y'all are horrors. You and you. You didn't. Both be all fell for it. Immediately. You said penis. So. Beyonce shouts out people in the crowd, though. That's bigger.

So. Beyonce got people in the crowd. Oh, Taylor got people in the crowd. She'd be shouting out like people. 100,000 to your bus driver, 100,000 to the light guy, 100,000. Like, I didn't realize it. I've been someone who's hated on Taylor. I went in there not thinking I was going to be blown away, and it was spectacular.

Now, this is something interesting, though, because they're saying, I read one report. I hate we got, we have to compare him. It's unfair to Beyonce. You can't compare. But check it out. The only person you can compare Taylor to is Michael Jackson. And I'm telling you, and if I'm being honest, it's Michael Jackson. there's the only person you can compare her to

if you talk about hits and I'm telling listen I don't want to do this but we could do it I don't want to do this we could do it you can't tell me Beyonce has the same amount of hits no features as Taylor she does she got no no

take away the features you can't even name him no she does take away the features you can't even name Beyonce don't have a lot of features though take away the features you can't name 10 Beyonce songs 10 Beyonce songs without the features go wait are you talking about no Destiny's Child what do you mean about no destiny child What do you mean about no Desi Chal's, no Jay-Z, no Sean DePaul?

Oh, okay. Oh, you mean with nobody? No features! Oh, yeah, glad we don't know what features are! You got those. Love on top, single ladies. Wait, wait, single ladies with Desmond's child, right? No, that's her.

Love on top, single ladies, uh, ringney alarm, Halo. It's a bunch of them. That's four, not a bunch. I mean, I can't. I'm just saying Taylor got the four, 12 hours. No, it's a bunch of them without features, though. What you mean we don't know? I can play any Taylor song right now.

You know what you didn't. Hold up. They don't love me like I love. It's a bunch of them. Irreplaceable. These are not, these are great songs, but these are not shut down 100,000 people. Oh, yes, they are. Yes, they are.

Listen, guys, guys. You must not know about me. You must not. No about me. But also, here's the interesting thing, right? They're saying Beyonce's tour, the one article came out. It's unfair to Beyonce in what you're doing. It's really, why can't we just appreciate her in her greatness?

Listen, they said one article, one article said, the toy's going to make $500 million altogether. But this New York Times article that came out two days ago said that eras, which is Taylor's toy, could top $1 billion in sales, making it the first concert in history to cross that mark. But some estimates suggest that Beyonce's World Toll could gross even more than that by the time it wraps in October. I don't know what's true and what's not true.

I hope they both make all the money. I don't even care about it. I don't care about the money. What I'm saying is this poor girl, Taylor Swift, has received a million times more criticism than Beyonce. It's whoever hates Beyonce. Beyonce is unanimously loved, appreciated, and adored. No, I agree with that because I don't like Taylor Now,

and I have no reason not to like her. It is constant hate all. And this girl is- You know what I don't like. I don't like how she acts big surprise at a award show. So here's the thing. Like, you know you was going to win. Here's the thing.

Here's the thing. I didn't like that either, and I specifically commented on it. When you see her lives, that shit feels authentic. And I don't know, son, you know me. She walks out to the crowd and go, oh my God. You're here for me. Who else would we be here for Taylor?

Hands on my knees on my fashion, bro. I was clapping like this at Taylor, bro. That's how happy I want. How do you have to project your own show that people are there to see you? Come on, show. Come on, show. You get caught up in it. I was caught up in it.

It's a cult, bro. It's a cult. I was caught up in it. You never experienced something like this. A hundred thousand people. Bro, she said to the people at the top of the thing jump off $10,000. people would have jumped off right now.

Beyonce tells the crowd to be quiet and everybody shuts the fuck up. Who talks when a black woman says be quiet? What is the argument here, though? What are we arguing? Y'all are arguing. I'm not arguing. You need to see Beyonce show. What I hate is that y'all even bring Beyonce into it.

What I'm trying to say is y'all need to just compare Taylor Swift to Michael Jackson and it's close. I just want to let you know it's close. I just want to let you know it's very close. Bro, if you really do it back to back, crazy. If Taylor Swift could moonwalk, we wouldn't even talk about Michael Jackson.

I'm so sick of Taylor. If Taylor Swift could moonwalk, we wouldn't even talk about Michael Jackson. I'm so sick of Taylor using Twitter as a search engine. Why? Why do you do this? Look at that. You know what's kind of crazy, though?

Michael was looking like Taylor Swift in his final form. Like right before he passed away, right before he passed away, Michael and Taylor had a lot of similarities. Because he knew who the goat was. Because even Michael Jackson knew who the goat was. Even Michael Jackson knew who the greatest of all time was. Greatest of all Taylor.

I haven't seen the show. Look at her going crazy. Look at these girls going crazy. You never seen women go crazy like this. You have not. Beyonce's shoulder like this. Yeah, it's right. Bro.

Gay guys. It doesn't affect you guys? Dude, yes. She got all the gay dudes. Gay dudes, straight dudes. Dads. Children. Yo, let me ask you a question.

At Beyonce's shows, do they have 3,000 people outside the arena singing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a tailgate? Yo, Beyonce had to sell, at one of her shows, she had to sell listening only seats. So you were paying like $300 just to hear. That's right. Damn right. But by the way, what Beyonce and Taylor are doing for the economy, this is unbelievable.

I hate that we compare it. Why can't Beyonce be the fucking greatest artist of her? You're the one comparing. I'm comparing her to Michael Jackson. Y'all keep bringing it Beyonce. I said, Taylor, the only person you compare is to Michael Jackson, you're like, have you seen Beyonce? I'm not even bringing up Beyonce.

I'm bringing up Michael Jackson and then R. Kelly. Why did that sound so funny? Only R. Kelly and Michael Jackson can be compared to Taylor Swift. Nah. And if rap was good live, which is not, it's the worst genre of music live, it would be Kanye West. No, Kanye shows a phenomenal. He's the only one.

No, no, Drake's show is great, too. But it's so hard to make a rap show good. I get what you're saying. It's so hard. Kanye is the one who, you either have to be already physically. It's almost like, that's a great, this is a great conversation. You know how there's certain comedians who are physical comedians? Yeah.

To me, DMX, bust and rhymes were physical animated performers. Yeah, they can get you. As far as, like, giving you a great show. Yeah, Kanye's by far. Bro, by far. Rap music is just the best to like vibe to, Bob to,

drive to. It just fucking gets you charged up. It's amazing. But the concert, the way I look at it is, if it don't work in karaoke, it's not going to work in a concert. So, for example,

when you see someone sing karaoke, if they got a great voice and they're singing, Britney Spears toxic, it don't matter. If they're singing Halo, it shuts the room down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then one motherfucker goes up there and they sing Eminem's 8 Mile, and you like, wrap it up. Ain't nobody come to karaoke for these weeks spaghetti. Unless there's something there, right? You would have to have like a head come out on stage and throw up the spaghetti. You know what I mean? Like something.

Like I get what you're saying. It's just a harder genre to communicate life. So it's Taylor, Michael Jackson. And Bussey is what you say. And Boosie. Okay. Okay. Because he's country, bro.

He's pro-laws out. Boosie is crunchy. Boosie was wild on saying R. Kelly could beat Michael Jackson in the verses, though. Like, it's not even close. Like, R. Kelly is a person who put out a lot of quantity, not a lot of quality, bro. That's a hot take. It's really not a hot take, man. You know, because there was a time after R. Kelly's, you know, scandal and everything happened.

He was just working with any and everybody. Do you think he was putting out the songs too early? Like, if you let the song. You think the song mature a little bit more? You think the songs should have been better. Yes. Yeah, right? I do.

I actually do. I feel like he was just throwing too much music out and it was just a little premature. I really do. I really truly do. You should have let the songs age a little bit. Yeah. Why do they do that? Why are there some people that just...

You can't help yourself. Yeah. But Michael's hits, man. Because to that point, Michael's hits are mature. Yep. Michael's hits have been around for a long time. Because when we talk about Michael and R. Kelly and a versus, you got to, you're talking about the Jackson 5. No, no features. We don't do features, bro.

Nine, versus you can do features. No, no. Oh, we're talking about an actual versus versus versus versus. Yeah. And Michael was the lead singing on a lot of those songs. And you're talking about the Jackson five. You're talking about off the wall album. You're talking about thriller. You're talking about bad. But versus you can play songs you wrote and produced. Michael still smokes. But let's Michael Kelly wrote for a lot. Name a record. Ralekelly got that. on the level of don't stop till you get enough. Name of a record R. Kelly wrote or did. We went through this.

I'm going to be honest. I want to rock with you. We went through this. We went through Michael Jackson's discography because we were having that conversation, the very normal conversation, Taylor and Michael. And the album thriller alone.

Yeah. Is insane. And off the wall is better than thrill. Off the wall is crazy. What do we do? Also, he has D-Side. We're not talking about B-Sides. D-side, random, like, butterflies.

Just random song. Remember the time. Woo! And Taylor still got him. That's how great Taylor is. Smooth, criminal, beat it. Go to Taylor. The way you make me feel.

Go to Taylor. You are not alone. You are not alone. You rock my world. I am here with you. Come on, man. P-Y-T. You don't even know the song because it's not Taylor.

If it was Taylor, I would have known that. I ain't a lot. Get up Taylor's shit. Just look at, why are you so upset at Taylor? Like, we did not. Taylor Swift can't fuck with Michael Jackson, bro. No, no, no, no. She's just the closest.

Yeah, and looks wise. They both look like skinny ass. You know me skinny, white with it. Come on. Come on. Come on. I don't know none of these songs. Bad.

And I do know bad blood. Bad blood. I know bad blood. I knew you were trouble when you walked. That's her most fire slap. That got to be her last song. Shake it off. Shake it off.

Shake it off fire. She got bankers. Shake it off fire. Come on, come on. Keep going. Take it off fire. I don't know none of these songs, bro. I know shake it off.

We are never, ever, ever. Getting back together. Fire. Fire. Absolutely crazy. Our song, crazy. Don't know any of those. Let's just keep going.

I just started listening to this girl for the first time last week. You know what I mean? Come on. What you did with all the songs? Come on, play one of them, man. Shake it off. Let's make Scooter some money. Play one of them.

Get it. Get it, Scooter. Well, I'm telling you. I don't know none of these songs, Joe. Cruel summer, crazy. How does cruel summer go? It's a cruel summer. It's a cruel summer.

We are never, ever, ever having a cruel summer. I knew you were cruel when you came around. Cruel it off. Cool it off. I'm telling you, this girl is unstoppable. Give me a goddamn laptop. You fucking up my point. Taylor Swift is a beast.

You're fucking up my point. You're not scrolling, bro. She's hating. We were scrolling all through, Beyonce. But by the way, man, Taylor Swift just has her audience, man. Like, she has her audience and people that fuck with her. Her audience is everyone. That's, it is.

Bro, you're a Taylor fan. You just went through all of them Taylor Swift's songs. You know what? I don't know if Taylor's audience is diverse as Beyonce. I don't know. I think Taylor has a strong Midwest, down south, following. I think Taylor's audience is a lot more white than Beyonce. That's true.

I think Beyonce had her, I think personally, Beyonce might have had a broader white audience before that Super Bowl performance she did that people said was anti-police. When she was actually, it was actually anti-police brutality. But everybody was saying it was anti-police. I noticed. a ship in how America viewed her looked at Beyonce after that. How did we look at her?

I just think people, yeah, people were, people were, but that's why people at that level don't make those kind of stands. Because they do. Too much to lose. It's too much to lose, right? You're everybody's artist at that point. Because if you look at some of the projects that Beyonce put out kind of after that, like the Lion King soundtrack was cool.

You know what I'm saying? It was great musically, but I don't think it sold tremendous, which was kind of crazy, right? Because that's the Lion King. That's the Lion King and the Lion King soundtrack. I thought that would have did a lot better than it did. And then Renaissance came out. And Renaissance did like a respectable 300-something thousand in the first week.

Then you look at somebody like, Taylor, Taylor did a million. Yeah. You know, in her first week. Adele did like a million. Taylor had that perfect storm, though, because she was doing the whole campaign to buy her master's name and remake all the songs. So basically it reintroduced even the young generation to even her old stuff. And so it's just a perfect storm

And that's why when you have a concert And now you're performing all your greatest hits And you're getting money from every single stream Of people trying to catch up on those hits It's a perfect storm Well, that's why I think the Renaissance story is so good for You're saying she's the greatest of all time For that reason

Actually not You can't even sing more than four of her songs Gorgeous Gorgeous, you know four I knew you were gorgeous When you walked in I think You knew more Michael Jackson than you do Taylor

Of course, Michael Jackson's the Michael Curtis of all time. Michael fucking Jackson. I think Beyonce is the closest thing to Michael, and I think that the Renaissance tour is the best thing for Beyonce, because people are being reminded of how fantastic she is. Who forgot, though? Who forgot?

I do think after that Super Bowl performance, that one when she stood up against police brutality, I think that kind of shifted things in America, because even the way they would talk about her, like the way Fox News started to talk about her, and a lot of the conservatives started, political lightning rod. Yeah, yeah.

And I think that kind of made like a lot of those white fans that was probably on Beyonce kind of fall back a little bit. You know what I'm saying? And they might just be coming back around now. Yo, Beyonce needs to get on that country wave. What was that country song she had?

Does she have a country song? Which one? Country's really doing it right now. Oh, no, they're killing. Country's like the top five songs in the country. Country is. What's Taylor's a fan base?

called Swifers or something. You're really a hater. You are really a hater. You're a really a hater. Yo, that's some haters. Swifties. Who do you think has a bigger fan base? Oh, yeah. Come on. It's not close.

No, I'm just saying, like, rolling around her, though. Because Beyonce got the beehive, they don't play. No, they definitely are better with her. That's social media. Behyb and social media. Yeah. Behive social media. I mean, listen, man, we're talking about numbers. Like I said. That money might be the most.

Pull up album sales. Pull up Taylor Swift album sales. I think she sold like 75, million worldwide. I don't want, I don't want this to have. I don't want us to do this to Beyonce. It's unfair. If you're comparing her to Michael Jackson, that's a fine comparison.

No, nobody can fuck with Michael. In terms of album sales, anything. Mike, that's not right. That's one album. Go, go Taylor Swift's total album sales. I am here with you. Michael, 114 million units. Taylor Swift is sold.

Now go to Beyonce Total album sales. And this is just Beyonce as a solo artist. It's not even counting Destiny's Child. She has $171 million in the United States. She's amazing.

Man, that's just in the U.S.? There's nothing like it. There's nothing like it. There's nothing like it, except for Taylor and Michael Jackson. Those are the only things that I would say are like it. Can we say just Taylor has her own,

like, because Taylor, and I know I'm wrong in saying this, Taylor feels like a state Beyonce feels like a planet I don't understand what you're saying Taylor feels like Even though I know I'm wrong about this It is that's what I'm saying

But that's how it feels right It feels like Beyonce is her own world What is Michael Jackson a city? No Michael Jackson is a universe The greater the smaller we go the greater we get Michael Jackson is a universe Michael Jackson is a universe Like seriously all of these people

exist in Michael Jackson's universe in some way, shape, or form. Okay, then Michael Jackson's universe, Taylor is a galaxy, and then Beyonce is a place. Taylor's feel like a state. Taylor's feel like Oklahoma. No. And I know I'm wrong with that.

Yes, you are wrong. Okay, what's the biggest thing? Texas? Yeah. Taylor's the biggest state. Alaska, right? By whatever. Okay, so Taylor's feels like Alaska,

even though I know I'm wrong. Yeah, yeah, you are wrong. She feels like Alaska. She don't feel like she have her own world. Yes. You know what I mean? Yes. Beyonce has her own planet, probably even her own galaxy.

See, now you're trying to bring it up to galaxy because I said Taylor had a galaxy and you feel like you need to step it up. I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Beyonce's galaxy. Yeah. Taylor's planet. No. Pluto. She's Pluto.

No. Could be a planet. It might not be a planet. It's, it's. like, it's crazy what you're doing right now? It's really crazy what you're doing right now because you're trying to take away the success

and greatness of the, arguably, the greatest artist of all time. It's the greatest of artists of all time. Taylor is there, bro. She writes all her music. No. We don't want to have that discussion. We don't want to have that conversation. We don't want to have that conversation. No.

Scooter writes her music. Owned it. If I look up her publishing, owner and writer is very different. Owner and writer of very different. She writes all her own music, so we don't want to have that conversation about greatest artists of all time.

We don't want to have that conversation. We do not want to have the conversation of writing their own songs, and that's what makes a great artist. We're not talking about the greatest performer of all time. There's no way Taylor writes all her own music. If we're talking about all of that. No, no, no, no.

All of that. Nobody really writes in her own music. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Nobody really writes. All of it. Michael Jackson didn't even write his own music. He didn't. No, no, no, he didn't.

That's why I'm trying to say, if we want to have the conversation of greatest artists of all time, and I know that we don't want to have this conversation, it's Taylor motherfucking sweat. Taylor might write our own music. That's why all our songs sound the same. Oh, now we're hanging. I knew you could shake it off.

Shake it off. To the left, to the left, to the halo, to the halo, to the lemonade, to the lemonade. This guy is. Right. Right. Like, lemonade, right. Come on, every song is insane. Every song is saying, what I'm trying to say.

You must not know about lemonade. That's it. What I'm trying to say is if we want to talk about greatest artists all time, and they got to write their songs because if they don't have to write their songs, put Frank Sinatra in there. Let's say some real shit. Yes, Taylor Swift is written and is credited as a songwriter on all of her songs. That don't mean she wrote them all.

I mean, she just wrote the words. Oh, I know y'all not going to do this. I'm just saying. I know y'all not going to Beyonce Taylor. I'm just saying. Beyonce Taylor. I know y'all not going to be on it says she has also collaborated. I know y'all not going to be on Beyonce Taylor. She's co-written with many other songwriting. I know y'all

not going to Beyonce Taylor. Big Ed Shearing, baby. I know we're not going to do this. Jack Jackingoff. What's his name? What the hell did you just say? What the hell did you just say? Jack Jackingoff. Jack Jacking off. That's Jack Jack Jackingoff. Jacking off.

She do got a lot of writers, though. She has collaborated with them. She writes all the albums. Y'all know she writes all the albums. Stop trying to hate her. Y'all trying to hate. Y'all trying to say, I'm just saying. It does say more than 60 songs credit her as a soul writer.

Show me 60 Beyonce songs that we're solo writer. Solo writer. Pull it up Taylor. Oh, I love this type of shit. Pull it up Taylor. Solo right. Pull it up Taylor. You do not want to pull this up.

You do not want to pull this up. Why don't we have to be right? Why have you not listened to the podcast? He's a secret mole in my character. He's a mold for Taylor. Oh shit. Yes, by and large. Beyonce writes all her own songs.

She is credited as the lead songwriter on each of written on 16th tracks. Lead. Leeds is not solo. She's credited with writing all the songs on Lemonade 2. But as we've mentioned, some of her biggest hits have been co-written with up to 25 other people. Same thing as Taylor. You're...

Same thing as Taylor. You wanted... You wanted the greatest liars in his... Yo, you really wanted the greatest liars. That's the second time I heard this to date. Your boy said that to me earlier. You wanted the greatest liars in his... You wanted the greatest liars in his career.

You wanted the greatest liars ever. And everybody knows that you know that's what they say about him. Now, Charlemagne says he's your friend. Last time you came, Charlemagne promised that he was going to come to your show when you were coming to town and you never showed. Yeah, yeah. Hold on. Can I... Actually, it's every time.

come on, he promises. I'm going to your taping, though. You're taping in Brooklyn. I know, yeah, I'm taping. I'm just going to plug that real quick. But my Netflix special, I'm shooting in Brooklyn. Yeah. This is what I want to do.

This is what I want to do. Because I know envy will go. Yes. Envy will go. Yes. He's a real person. You, though, you lie a lot. And you're notorious for lying.

Facts. That is facts. You're a liar. You are a liar. And everyone always says this about you. So that's what I want to do. God damn, Joe Coy going for the jugger.

Oh, because I haven't been to one of his shows yet. He's like, you go to everybody else's fucking comedy show. Hey, Joe, it took him damn near 14 years before he came to one of my years. Not true. I went to Caroline. Oh, yeah, went to Caroline. Then you had a little hiatus. You know what I mean?

But it's okay. I saw you. I needed to see you. When I saw you at Caroline, I said, yo, Andrew. was one of the best. Next thing I know you're doing Radio City. It made sense to me. Great. One of the greatest liars. Thank you. Thank you.

My point. All I'm saying is, if we talk about one of the greatest singers, dancers, performers of all time. Beyonce. Right? Listen, Beyonce. If you want to talk about one of the greatest performers of all time, Elvis. You want to talk about one of the greatest performers of all the time? Never saw Elvis.

I think we can argue it was pretty damn good. I thought like he was overrated. Michael Jackson, nobody comes close. That's right. Prince. Jesus. We're not even talking about Prince. I will say, oh, no, no, no.

Playing all the instruments. By the way. Why are we not even mentioning? By the way, we don't talk about this enough, Prince. Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder! The best musical artist ever. What about Ray Charles?

Ever. Ray Charles? Stevie Wonder and Prince are the best musical artists of any genre ever. We're saying, explain music. But music artists means you have to write. They write. They produce. They play.

instruments, everything. Stevie and Mike, Stevie and Prince do everything. Yeah, but they don't got the bops Taylor has. That's the problem. I put Ray Charles in. They don't have the amount of box.

Ray Charles plays everything, and he writes. No disrespect. Hey, listen, no disrespect to Prince, but I think Prince is kind of like a Carl Malone in that like, we just needed a somebody to give credit to

outside of Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was so dominant that there was just a couple years where he was like, all right, just give someone else the MVP, give it to Carl Malone. No. It's more LeBron and Steph.

Prince is not in the same. It's more LeBron and Steph, yo. It's not the same ballpark as Michael Jackson, bro. Yes, he is, bro. No, yes he is. Put the box up. Yeah, I know. Put the bopsa.

One besides purple rain. Little red carvet, purple rain. Pull up Prince on. Prince got a million. That's why you got Google Tailed. Nah, but you pull. No, no. If it ain't up here, it ain't up there.

That's not true. If it ain't up here, that's not true. Diamers and pearls. Purple Rain, Little Red Corvette. You just named two eyes. I just said. Huh? Now, stop.

Oh, when dubs cries, that should have been top of mind. Yes, kiss. You got the look. Oh, Raspberry Beret. Come on, man. Raspberry Beret. Adore. Like, you know, Prince got bobs, man.

Like, stop. No, no, he got bobs, but it's not messing with Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson, we can all sit here right now and name 30 songs. Right now, no problem. 30. 30. It's like, oh. 30.

I'm with you on Michael. But we're not going to ask. But we're not going to act like, we're not going to compare four maybes. No, no. We talk about raspberry berets. We can't say, Frank ain't call him alone, bro. Fuck out of here, bro. French ain't call him alone, bro.

He's calm alone. No, no, no, not. Incredibly dominant, weird sexual shit. But he's not fucking with Michael Jordan. Incredibly dominant, weird sexual shit. He's not fucking with Michael Jordan, bro. I'm saying Prince is calm alone. He's not called him alone, man.

He's calm alone, man. So who is Stevie won't? Because Stevie Helen Kelly wrote for Michael The greatest blind ever That's the greatest blind

That's the greatest blind I said Stevie can't see none of it She can't see See him Steve third, yo he didn't See Prince

Oh Michael But listen You know You know the fucked y'all, man You know the fucked up thing about Prince It's all about how you go out too The reason Prince isn't celebrated

The reason James Brown isn't celebrated the way he is, the reason James Brown isn't celebrated the way are because there were things that trumped their death. When Michael Jackson died, the world stopped. Stop. Stop. And sadly, when somebody passes, by the way, amazing. Properol.

You know what I mean? You got that propril. That colonoscopy. Come on. That colonoscopy. That endoscopy. Oh, my God. And the doctors will tell you, this is the stuff that Michael Jackson was using.

Ooh. As soon as you wake up, you're like, I can see it. I get it. I get it all the way. I get it all the way. But the crazy thing about Prince, Prince died. Well, let's start with James Brown. James Brown died on Christmas.

Not beating Christmas. Yo, James Brown. We should be having these conversations. James should be in these conversations. Yo, James Brown might be the greatest ever because he didn't even have words. Imagine being able to make songs that are that impactful that don't even got words. Imagine how musical you got to be. Think about that.

He was the first rapper. He definitely was the first rapper. No, he was. My daddy used to always say. My dad used to be like James Brown. the first rapper. I'm a ham. Hey, man.

You know what I mean? James was the inspiration for all of these people. Let's be clear on that. Who? All of them. James Brown? Michael Jackson's all of them.

Come on, you can't compare James Brown and Michael Jackson's time. No, I did. Well, there's different errors, right? That's like comparing Dr. J. Michael Jordan. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it's literally like Michael Jordan. Chris, you want to say something? I was going to add Diana Ross to that too. Man, Chris, shut the fuck up. Do the math. Your fucking mouth. Do the math. You have fucking mouth with that bullshit.

Do the math. Diana Ross. Don't fuck out of here. Diana was a beast, yo. No. I don't think she was as good a performer. Get out of here. Because she didn't dance.

What's one Diana Ross song? Come on, bro. I want to dance with somebody. I'm coming out. Diana created the gay anthem of all gay answers. I'm coming out. I want the world to know. Come on, man.

Diana different. What's another one after that? Y-I-M-C-A. Shut up. Look at James, bro. God, James. James looked like a mock. James left it all on the stage.

Come on. James left it all on the stage, man. He really did. Now, let's go to Prince. When did Prince die? Prince died April 22nd, 2016. Wow. Two thousand and 16.

Pull it up. Let me make sure I'm right, Taylor. Pull it up. That sound like James Brown. Come on, let me touch myself. Prince. Oh, April 21st. You're right.

April 21st. Okay, the reason I said to 22nd, because on April 21st, Breakfast Club pre-records all of its interviews. Breakfast Club did an interview with a guy by the name of Birdman on April 21st, 2016. I remember doing the MTV up front. I was hosting a something that night,

and the news came that Prince died. MTV immediately changed all their programming on the network. Wow. Changed all the programs. at the upfront. And I remember thinking to myself the next day, damn, should we even play Birdman? Nobody's even going to care about the Birdman.

And then what happened? And then what happened? I said, fuck it. Birdman's only two minutes, so let's play the two minutes. And then we get back to Prince. Niggum, when my name come up, respect it. Let's go.

I'm playing with my fucking name. All drill, y'all. Stop playing with my name. I ain't going to say it. No more. Nobody remember Prince again. Nobody remember that. You, you fucking dick.

You fucking kill Prince's legacy. The perfect. The person who y'all should have been putting respect. Y'all should have been putting respect on Prince's name. Bad, bro. Because it was a weekend. It was a Thursday. April 21st was a Thursday.

Friday was April 22nd. We played a Birdman. All the weekend. It was Birdman, Birdman, Birdman, Berman man. Y'all should have been putting some respect on Prince's name. So my point with saying all of that is people do remember how you go. And a lot of times... Because of you.

You really did ruin his legacy. That is not true. But there is something to that, though, right? Yeah, you ruined it. But also, it was ruinable. I'm telling you, that interview on the Berkis Club is not going viral on Michael Jackson's death day. It's not.

It's not. You ain't even putting it up because you're like, nothing could compete with this. But you knew deep down Carl Malone, Doc. You knew deep down the mailman not delivering today. I was shocked by that one. I thought Prince was going to be the one. I thought Prince was one of those ones that would stop the world.

I'm not going to lie. I really did. You are not alone I remember after Prince passed away we had a debate about who could stop the world What's the next line?

If they passed away I know you're not Something No we got to look You are not alone lyrics You are not alone I am here with you

Though we're far apart Shake it off What? No, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on. You are to... That ain't the one man.

The one that makes you cry, you man in the mirror about it. Oh, no, it's though you're... I am here with you. Every day. Though you're far away, I am here to stay. But you are not alone. I am here with you. You, though we're far apart, you're always in my heart, but you are not alone.

You're not alone, lone, lone, lone. You know what you should have went to go see? Michael Jackson on Broadway. I saw it. Oh, you did see it. We talked about that fine-ass little Dominican. Oh, Miles Frost. God, is that his name?

He's Dominican? Huh? That light skin one. He looked cubit of stuff. Damn, what you want to frost his tips? God, dang. I couldn't even go forward on that one. Miles are frosted tips?

Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ, Latter-day Saints! Salute to Miles Frost. Wait, what's the one that makes you cry? Oh, man in the mirror. Pull up man in the mirror, Taylor. This right here, I'm saying, if you ever want to cry, for any reason,

this one right here, boy, this shit here will make you change, Your motherfucking life. Michael Jackson, man in the mirror. Come on now. I'm gonna make a change for once in my life. It's gonna feel real good. Gonna make a difference. I'm gonna make it right.

Uh, uh, uh. At the turn up the collar on, my favorite winter cold. This wind is all in my mind. I see the kids in the streets We're not enough to eat Who am I to be by pretending not to see their needs A summer's disregard

A broken bottle top And a one-man show They follow each other on a wind you know Because they got nowhere to go That's why I want you to know I'm starting with the man in the mirror. I'm asking him to change his ways. And no message could have been any clear.

If you want to make the world a better place, get to look at yourself and make the change. God, dang. Ain't one Prince song make you do that, bro. There ain't one Prince song to make you do that. Diamond and Pro. Now, I'm not, Diamond and Pro don't make me do that, but Diamond and Proz is close.

Diamonds and Pro. I don't even know the words to that song. Come on, man. Pull up diamonds and pearls because I don't know what I mean. No. But when that shit come on, when that shit come on. That you got some weird thing.

I just know Prince ain't Carl Malone. Carl Malone was fantastic. Yeah. He was great. No, he was. No, he won the MVP over Michael Jordan, even though he shouldn't have, and that's Prince.

We don't talk about Carl Malone having a white savior enough. What does that mean? You know, black people who are white savior. Black people who have white saviors. What does that mean? I've only had black saviors in my life.

John Stockton was absolutely Carl Malone's white savior. Carl Malone ain't shit without his homeboy. Do you think that he was like the real blindside? Do you think Stockton adopted Carl Malone? Ooh. Maybe you heard the trauma about that block. Oh, I definitely did. But, you know, I always thought it was that shit.

I watched that fucking movie and I said, oh, this is some cuckolding going on. He fucked. Like, I always felt like, you know, he was just in there laying it down on that wife. Oh, 100%. I always felt that. Oh, 100%. And what makes it even crazier is the fact that he wasn't even legally adopted. How did that happen?

I ain't know that. Yes. Conservativeship instead of adoption. Why did they do that? That's what I want to know. How does that work? They saw the vision and it was like, we need to control your finances. Oh, forever.

But I don't know. But I thought you. you had to have legal guardianship with somebody to have a conservat. Conservatives, whatever I think you do. That's what I'm saying. He's not even he wasn't legally adopted. Nah, that shit is peculiar, bro. Man. But hold on real quick.

Does anybody know how this song sounds? I know the hook, diamonds and pearls. Do you want to be a boy or a girl? You wrote out to that. You would. That's really it. That's why you love this shit. Oh, no, that's not it. He goes,

If I gave you diamonds and pearls Would you be a happy boy or a girl If I could, I would give you the world Diamonds and pearls are slaps, bro. No. Anyway, go to either Ray Charles. If you really want to get emotional, we got to go Ray Charles and Stevie Wondies.

Stevie Wunder. Or Jelly Roll saved me. Oh, my God. Jelly Roll saved me is guaranteed. What is Jelly Roll saved me? You have to play this song right now. Oh, my God. Go on YouTube play Jelly Roll.

Save me. What is that about? Get his cholesterol? I do it. What is that? What is that? What is that about? What is it save me about me? I mean, it's about saving them.

But, probably, like, you know, living that. It's an amazing song. I like jelly roll. You got good energy. I mean, I just... Hold on. Hold on. We got the sound.

Yeah, but... Somebody said... Ooh. I've been so... I was not expected. They say my lifestyle is bad for my health. It is. It's the only thing that seems...

I don't know Telly Rose saying. All of this drinking is smoking is hopeless but feel like it's all that I need. Something inside thing that sets me free. Go ahead. Go ahead, jelly roll. Don't waste. I'm so damaged. Life is shattered my hopes and my dreams.

Go ahead, Jelly Roll. I'm a lost call. How y'all me keepin this from me, man? The truth, man. I'm so damaged be. Life is shattered my hopes and my dreams. Phenomenal, bro. Yo, Jelly Roll.

Salute the God. Salute the goddamn jelly roll. Fucking Alex over there crying. That shit, cancer. That shit, all. I'll be drunken. It got a John Mayor waiting on the world to change type energy to it. Yeah, but...

God damn, Jelly Roll. I thought Jelly Roll wrapped. He did, but now he's also singing, he's doing rock country. He's just so musical. What I love about that is he was dead serious about everything he said in that song because he didn't make any lifestyle changes after that record. Yeah. None.

Clearly. He has a little bit. He did? Yeah, yeah. He's getting into it. He's getting after it now. Really? Well, good, Jelly Row, because we need you around, brother.

That shit, damn. Man. That was a beautiful song. Who knew that out of all of these legends we were talking about, Jelly Row was going to shut it down. Jesus Christ. Let's pay some bills, man. All right, let's take a break, man.

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Let's get back to the show. What else we got? Bro, there's a lot of tings happening right now. Talk to me, man. Talk to me, man. There's a lot of things happening. Give me some tings. We have this Canelo, Charlo fight. Maybe I'm missing something.

Was Charlo, did Charlo, did Charlo, Yeah, I don't know. Like, you were saying Steve thinks that Charles is going to win? I just can't fathom Canella's losing to anybody when he's coming down and wait. I just can't. Canella's knock out guys at 1705.

No, no, no, he's going, Charlo went up two weight classes. Where are they fighting at? What weight? 168? Something. 168 is two weight classes because Charles fights at what? 154? Yeah, he went up two-way classes.

160-something. Look that up, Taylor? If they're fighting at 1-60. 60. Now, 168's too big. There's no way. No, he went up to weight classes. Charlie's coming all the way up to 168. Yeah, he went up to weight classes because you remember, Chalo has been hurt. Chalo heard his hand. He hasn't fought since May of 2022 because he hurt his hand.

And, you know, the fight presented itself, so that's a big money fight. You know what I mean? If you're Charlie, you got to take it. That's why they're actually stripping him. I think the WBO is stripping him on one of his belts because he's going up to fight Chalo and he's got a mandatory with that dude, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim. Tim Zoo. Tim Zoo. Yeah. Costa Zoo's son.

Yeah. Do you remember Costa Zoo fought Zab Judah and knocked out Zab Judah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember Zab Judah got knocked out and he had the legs that he, his brain was in, his upper body was in, but he had the legs that weren't there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was Costa Zoo. So Costa Zoo, so Koso's son, Tim Zoo is now, I think, like, 140 or like 147. 147.

147. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to get the WBO belt, the Welterway belt. But Jermel, I mean, you can't be mad at Jermel for ducking the man. Not ducking, but not wanting to fight the mandatory to go get the money. Because he's definitely not duck. You don't get the money, my dude. And I'm going to tell you what I like about Jermel.

We had Jermel on Breakfast Club. Jamel's like, look, I'm going to fight Connello. And then I'm going to go back down to fight Baud at 154. That's tough shit. I'm going to fuck. Coming down and weight of stuff. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm adding on all that muscle?

Like remember how tricky that was for Roy Jones. he came up to fight Ruiz. And then he came back down. And they came back down and I think he beat Tarver in a tough fight. I thought Tarver was a decision. No. No, I think he came back down. He beat Tarver in like a really tough fight.

I thought when he came back down and he got knocked out. No, and then they fought again. And he got knocked out. And that's where he knocked out. Yeah. So, but it was really tough for him to cut. You add all that muscle. That muscle don't go away quick. Yeah, man.

And Connollas said, there's no way he. fighting, he's coming down to fight, but. We had Canello on Breakfast Club, too. We had both in the morning this morning. What? Yeah. I was talking to Canello. Way better than it used to be. Tell me about this. What was it? When Canelo first came to the breakfast club,

he had to translate it. You know what I'm saying? Like, now he don't need it. Like, he's sitting down and we're actually having a conversation. He understands things that we're talking about. He, you know, he's, yeah, I fuck with Connello. What do you say? Um, he said there's no, he said he'd fight bud at 168. He said, there's

no way he can come down to 154. He said he just can't do it no more. Yeah. He said he'll go up, but he can't, he can't come down. Wow. You know? So he said he fight him at 168. And I mean, honestly, man, there's really nothing for Bud to do except for rematch Earl, Spence at this point. Nobody want to see that. But there's nothing else not there for him. Like, what else is there for him? Because he won't. He set up a nice Charlo fight when he was talking shit to him. But he wants to fight Charlo so he can become three-time, undisputed champion.

You know what I mean? Why, is Charlo undisputed right now? Charlo's undisputed. At 154. At 154. But they're about to take his, they're taking the WBO belt from him. So Tim Zhu, I think, is getting that.

Yeah. And then Charlo will have three belts. So I don't know. Maybe, maybe, if Bud wants you fight soon, perfect, right? Gets the belt. Exactly. And then Charlo got to come back down to fight Bud to try to become undisputed again, you know?

And then he's three-time undisputed. People will tune him for that. Yeah, that's a good fight. Yo, low-key, Bud's got us caring about belts again. There was a long time in boxing where belts didn't matter at all. But since he's doing something historic,

we're like, oh, shit, I want to see this happen. Yeah. Did you ever pull up the weight, Taylor? Wait, wait, tell me about Canello. You never said what he was talking about. Like, what's... Conello was cool, man. He said he only stops fucking one week before a fight.

Really? Yeah. How do he say? Shout out of Mexicans, brother. You know, they ain't stopping that. He said, some people, like, a month or two months. He said all he needs is a week. Okay.

You know what I'm saying? And how do he say it? I just ask him. I said, yo, are you one of those guys that don't have sex before first? He goes a week. The beautiful thing about Conello being that like his, he doesn't, he's just, I guess, learning how to speak English well, all his answers are straightened to the point. Quick.

Do you think Oscar De La Jolla is a good person? No. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's just very like, you don't know how to be political. No. Yeah. He's just really to the point. Like, no.

No. But it was, I mean, it was good wearing both of them tomorrow. No, I'm looking for the weight. I know he's 154, but what did him in Conello fight again? I think it's like 160, something. Just do boxer Jamel Chalov versus Canello Alvarez. 168 pounds. Huh?

168 pounds. 168. Wow. And then the point of September 30th? September 30th. But, you know, what I think I noticed today about Jermel Charlo, is that he probably walks around that size anyway. And Canello's not a big 168.

He probably walks around around 168. So they're both overblown 154s. Like, I think Canello starts his career of 154. If I'm not mistaken. He fought Floyd at 152? Oh, that 148. I don't remember. No, no, 150.

152? Yeah, maybe it was 154. Maybe it was 150 or something like that. Not like Canello, man. Canello is a true champion. You know what I mean? And he said he's tired of people saying he's ducking Benavides. Benavides.

Because he was like, they say that about every fucking body. Exactly. It was like they always tell me I'm ducking somebody. They're like getting the ring and beat him. The guy fought a light heavyweight, man. And was getting banged on and was in there banging. Canelo ain't ducking nobody. Canello is the guy.

He's the A side. He knows he's the A side. Everybody wants to fight Canelo Alvarez because they know it's a big money fight. So he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Yeah. You know? What else we got, Taylor gang?

They putting Trump behind bars or what? I told you. Nah, they ain't getting them. I called this. I ain't getting them. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm shocked. Because if you're going back and listen to Auburn in this podcast,

you couldn't tell me that he wasn't going to get locked up, right? I knew he was going to get locked up. Then there was a part, and there was a period while I was like, nah, it's not happening. yo he's been averaging one indictment a month for the past four more it's like Kodak black he's got the same No bro like like like and

now he's got 91 criminal charges Fannie Mae Willis I don't even know if her name is Fannie Mae but I call her Fannie Mae because she don't play Fannie Mae Willis when she hits you with the Rico she hits you with the fucking Rico bro Fannie Mae is the same prosecutor in Atlanta

who gave who hit Young Thug and YSL with the RICO. And now she just hit old thug and goddamn OCL with the RICO. Old Caucasian life different, bro. She hit Giuliani. She hit his lawyer. Like, she hit 19 people, yo. She better hope it sticks, bro,

because if it doesn't stick, it's guaranteed presidency. Rico's easier to prosecute. I have a theory about that now. Just one person has to turn? Oh, it's 19 people. Somebody guaranteed to flip. 91 criminal charges, a lot of those shit

is going to stick to Trump. Here's the thing about the presidency. And I want everybody in MAGA to understand this. I want all Republicans to understand this. No matter how much you love the guy, it's time to move on. It's time to move on. It's too much of a distraction. He's too funny.

He's facing 91 criminal charges. There's a lot of different people running for president. Republicans, we already know how y'all get down. you're all going to follow the leader regardless. Y'all y'all are way, y'all are more unified than Democrats will ever be. It does not matter who is on your ticket as long as y'all get behind that person and vote for them. You already know all of y'all are going to always fall in line with each other. It's time to move on from Donald Trump, y'all.

It's just too much at this time. Because think about it, right? There's not an industry in America that Donald Trump could be in, be facing 91 criminal charges, and still, have a job. You know what I'm saying? They would have either suspended them, distanced themselves from them, fired them all together. There's got to be some type of standard for running for president of the United States of America, bro. Innocent to proven guilty, my boy. I'm with you. So let's put them on ice. You know what I mean? Until all this shit is over. If you live long enough, you come back and do it again in 2020, fucking eight. You know what I'm saying? But next year,

nah, bro. It's too much of a distraction. How are you going to have Trump on the debate stage? You know what I mean? Like, there are certain things, not even Trump is good enough. We love distraction, my boy. We love distraction. But even Republicans are bringing this shit up now. Well, the problem is that they don't have anybody. So it's like DeSantis, all the Republicans start to get in line with DeSantis.

And then he had his Howard Dean moment where he just continues to look like a goofy goober. So it don't have to be DeSantis. Yo, Donald Trump, let's be on. And who is there? Donald Trump is the first charismatic Republican president in a long fucking time. Yeah. They've all been fucking tin cans. Well, what, charismatic Republican president?

Yes. Now, George Bush was, uh... No, he wasn't. He was just goofy. No, he was, he was a goofball. He was genuinely charismatic, funny. In a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a timmy, stop licking the window kind of way.

You know what I'm saying? It worked, though. It works. I don't think, I just think Republicans are that strong of a force that no matter who is the GOP candidate, they can get behind. No, that's also. true. I'm just saying they need some with charisma to get behind. And right now, not against Biden. Well, outside of Trump, who can do it? I think anyone. DeSantis just

not just, the Sanchez is too, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's proven himself to be Trump light. People don't want that right. No, that's not the issue. I think that he's just too goofy as a, as a person. Like, people love his policies. Conservatives love his policies. And then there's Democrats that are like, yeah, I kind of like this guy's policies. And I like the fact that he's not just trying to be as salacious as Trump and just saying all these outlandish things. He kind of is, though. Like, even the stuff he tends to attack is like, do people really give a fuck about that, bro?

Yes, they do. Like banning books in Florida? They do. I don't think that's a national issue people care about. They do, they do. But it doesn't matter. The LGBT stuff, I think if he was to attack that more with religion, I think he'd have a better shot. There are people.

I'm not saying that there are people that are right, but there are tons of people that feel very strong. about that. So, uh, I think Mike Pence could be, get out of here. That guy's a fucking.

So his biggest opposition is Ron Sanchez. Yeah. But him, Mike Pence is, uh, fat boy. He's, he's,

he's, he's, he's, he's Kelly Role? Chris, Chris, Christy. You know what I'm saying?

Christy could do it. That's what I'm. Yes. If he wasn't fat. He doesn't look it. He doesn't look presidential. It's, it's the reality of matter.

He just doesn't look presidential. If he come out there and sing don't save me. If he come out there, he said, save me. Come on, man. Save me from myself. Listen, I think there's plenty of Republican candidates. I've been Ian and Ian and Ian. There's nothing left on the shelf.

They could get behind Tim Scott if they wanted to. They could get behind Tim Scott if they wanted to. I'm just saying that I just think it's time. I don't think Tim Scott will do it, but the sleeper tick. No, Scott is running. Let me get it out. I don't think Tim Scott will do it, but the sleeper ticket is Trump and Tim Scott. Ah, man.

I'm just telling you, if Trump and Tim Scott are on the same ticket. It's time to back away from Trump. I don't think he'll get behind that Indian dude. I forgot his name. Oh, Robbis. Why, whatever? But Vic. Yeah, Vivek?

Yeah, we had him on Breakfast Club. What did you think about? Uh, eh, you know, you know, I don't, I didn't, I didn't fuck with nothing that he was talking about. You know what I'm saying? What are you mean? One thing in particular is that he just started voting when he was 30-something years old. So he wasn't even in the process. So you just started voting, but yet you want to create legislation that makes it more difficult for people to vote.

Like you want people to pass some type of civics test. You know what I'm saying? In order to know how to vote, and you just started voting at 30-something years old. It's like, come on, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, come on, bro. You know?

And I always feel kind of like. like Larry about people like him who are anti-affirmative action when we know that his parents benefited from affirmative action. You know what I'm saying? It's just, it's just strange, you know. I'm happy he came on the show. I'm glad, you know, you know, listen, I'm open to talking to anybody, you know, and we actually do have a lot more Republican candidates coming, like Larry Elders is coming. You can make the argument that he's, his kids might be hurt by affirmative action. I would think. No, no. Affirmative action hurts his kids, not helps his kids. Because he's privileged.

Not only is he privileged, but like, for example, Asian students, they get like a 1600 on the SATs. They don't get into Harvard because Harvard's keeping spaces open for people who will do worse. And because of affirmative action. Yeah. So let's say Harvard lets in these Native Americans that are getting 1130 on the SAT because they're like, hey, we need. need to even some stuff out because of affirmative action. If you're an Asian, if you're an Indian who's going to fucking ace the SATs,

you're like, yo, the affirmative action isn't helping me, is hurting me. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. But they got to do away with the legacy. Legacy kids. The legacy thing is also. A number white affirmative action. Yeah. Yeah. What makes Christy run? Get the fuck out of here. When the Kris cream light

hits turns on that fucking, when the hot light when the hot light turns on that Krispy cream. Why doesn't he just get on a Zemphic, bro? Like, get on the Zemphick, lose the fucking weight, look precedential. It don't work for everybody. I had a... Chris Christie, right? If I was running his campaign, I said, Chris, this is what you have to do.

From now until next year, people have to see you get in shape. You can't just say run, Christy, run. You have to say, America, we need to get in shape. Like, you have to use you as an example of America. Yeah. And you got to take a picture shirt. and say, this is America now. Yeah.

You know what I'm like? This is where we are. You know what I mean? But on my campaign trail, I'm going to whip us in the shape. And as you're on the campaign trial, they see you getting in the shape. I don't get to look at you. I like that. I don't care if you got to go to the surgery.

You know what I mean? I like that a lot. People need to see you getting in shape. So by, what's it? We're in August now. By August the next year, yeah. Motherfuckers start seeing like, damn, Chris Christie really lost some weight.

You know what I mean? I might start fucking with him. He got to do it. Because he is the charisma. He is the charisma to do it. And I'm not- I'm not sure about his policy. He's just so anti-Trump.

He's been coming at Trump any chance he can get. So it's like he used to be on Trump's dick. Yeah, but after they went out of each other, now he's like every chance he gets, he tries the bash Trump. So now the Trump people won't. That's not fucking real. That's how he dresses, bro. He dresses like the fucking

He's sitting on a wall. He looks like a fucking sectional. He looks like I can buy him out of IKEA. He looks like four different versions of one motherfucker, yo. Yeah. Like, what the...

Oh, my God. Doesn't he look like all the townspeople couldn't put him back together again? He dumped. He fell off the wall. He does look like that, man. See, I can't vote for nobody like that.

So he got to get it, you know, you got to get it chapped down. Yeah. man, if you can't look down and see your dick, how are you going to see the rest of the country? You can't. You know what I'm saying? You can't. No, no, no, no.

But yeah, I just think that the Republican Party has, it's time to move away from Trump. Let Trump go handle his business like, yo, Trump, like I said, if you're around in four years, you come back, but you got to go sit down right now. Like, this is ridiculous. I ain't never seen somebody have 91 criminal charges. That's a, that's, I've never seen that in my life. Yeah. For anybody. 91.

A significant amount. What do you think, Chris? I think he's obviously guilty, but I'm very concerned. They won't stick. And they'll come out of it stronger. It's not going to stick. You don't think so?

I think it's... When do the feds... The feds don't make mistakes like that, though? When do you ever see the Fed? They got a 99% conviction rate. This is the 1%. It's going to be... I mean, to me, it's almost irrelevant

because we've broken the system and there's no putting it back together again. It is. If you make him get the fuck out, sit down. If he goes to jail, but people, his supporters are never going to believe it anyway. So we let this guy into the system and we're going to realize in about two or three years, what a nice system we had.

And now we've fucking blown it up. And everyone is like, oh, we need to hit reset. Oh, we needed to reset the board. We're going to see, actually, we had it pretty good. Here's the thing. If you're a person that believes all of this is politically driven and politically motivated, you're probably right. But the reality is, if he didn't give them anything to latch on to, we wouldn't be in this situation.

This is how you know President Barack Obama had to be one of the most law of Biden citizens ever. Like, like, apparently gay, allegedly, right? But wait, wait, wait, not allegedly. He wrote a letter that he dreams about it. Come on. He didn't say it like. Why are you upset that your president wants to s s s**? He actually said it better than that.

What he said? Pull it up. He actually said it better than that. You're making it sound nasty. What he said? He wants to make love with that. He wants to make love with that. Yeah, this shit was romantic, bro.

That shit you said just now was like vulgar. Peace Taylor, gang. Enjoy your fucking trip with your fake, you know, imaginary friend. Okay? Peace, Taylor, gang. All right. Have fun. Enjoy.

Let's see. What did he say? Why isn't this more of a story? He said, I will love men from this life. to the next. Yeah, former President Barack Obama wrote of his own

and dronious mind in making love to men daily but in the imagination according to the redacted portion of a now notorious 1982 letter obtained by the post. These bitches ain't shit also. He's not gato.

No, but the fact that this girl let that letter go. Like, that should be like, you should go to jail for that. That should be like sharing nudes. Yeah, it's like revenge. That's revenge porn. This is actually worse than revenge.

Why was it redacted? Now that they have no more use for Barack, they're like, okay, let that letter go. Oh, my God. That's the most fucked up thing about this whole thing, is they're like, okay, we don't need Barack anymore. So now we'll bury him. No.

That's the fucked up thing. No, no, that's not what this is. Why is it not redacted anymore? No, I'm going to tell you what this is. This is, oh. Story of a girl who cried a river and drown the whole world. This is, this is all bets are off, for everybody.

Nobody's protected anymore. Trump got 91 charges. He got four indictments. Hunter Biden and all his shit coming out. Now it's all bets off. It's like, oh, we're not protecting each other no more. There's no presidential oath. But why were the Democrats who are empowered due to themselves?

Like, why would you tarnish Barack Obama? I don't know if that came from Democrats. Did that come from Democrats? I'm assuming the they, who's in control of redacting documents, has now all the sudden unredacted it. Well, you know what you're doing. If you redacted it for a reason, which they did, why would you remove the redaction at any point in time?

I could be mistaken, but I think it was the guy who wrote his biography. So this was something when he was doing his research for the book. He came across this. I thought this was a letter he wrote, though. Yeah, he was doing his research to write the biography. And so he saw this. He didn't include it in the book at the time. and so now maybe he's just trying to, you know, get a little steam.

I think that this is all bets are off. No presidents are protected anymore. This shit is weird. Everybody's shit is on the table. It's weird, you're about to hear some shit that you ain't never ever heard before. And you know what's so interesting about this one? This is an old rumor. This is up there with like Barack Obama's, well, his birth certificate shit.

Like, we've always heard these rumors about Barack Obama. You never saw those articles? About the birth certificate? No. They were talking about this during his first campaign or the second campaign. Oh, the crazy. The craziest rumor right now is, you know the craziest rumor, right? Hold on.

Look at this article right here. Hold on, show you know the craziest rumor, right? What? You don't know the craziest rumor? Look, what? That there's no pictures of Michelle Obama pregnant. Oh, that's old. That's old, too.

You know about Big Mike? Yeah, that's old. All of these are old. Look, this is 2012. What's behind the rights Obama is gay conspiracy? That was 2012. Tea Party. Tea Party conspiracy claims Obama secretly gay or bisexual.

Like they, all of that, all of these are old. So it's the Tea Party was right? I mean, listen, I was having a conversation earlier this week or last week when this shit came out and I was saying, damn, it seems like a lot of these right wing conspiracies are starting to come true. But they're not really conspiracies. These are things that clearly somebody knew. All I'm saying, it's some wild shit coming out. And you're about to hear more. You think?

Bro, this shit with Hunter Biden is nuts. All of this shit. We've been known that they've been protecting Hunter Biden the whole time. They've protected Joe Biden the whole time. That's over, bro. Put it like this. There still is going to be media protection, but all of these stories are coming out.

You're about to start hearing some really wild shit over the next couple of years. Who do you think is behind us? Who is the most again? No. Hmm. Not you. Damn. You think they know?

You know who the fuck I'm talking about. Who am I? Petit Pub, motherfucker. You know who the fuck I'm talking about. Who am I? Petit China, motherfucker. Not me. What do you mean?

Remember, I'm not pro China. No, but you are Chinese. All right, fair enough. Even his blouse is Chinese. He definitely got his sneakers from a wet market. Oh, 100%. God damn America. Yeah, that's.

You got that from the motherland. You have a heat on the piece. He does. He does. Let's do some, oh, man, for all, oh, man, rest in peace to the God Clarence Avon, man. Man, if y'all know anything about me, y'all always hear me say I have four inspirations, four idols when it comes to this entertainment thing. It is Pedy Green, rest in peace to Pee D. Green. It is Arsenio Hall.

It is Sean J. Z. Carter. And it is Clarence Motherfucking Avon, man. Clarence Avon. born in Greensboro, North Carolina, raised in climax, North Carolina, became one of the most influential people, not just in music, in politics, in film, in sports. If you don't know anything about the Black Godfather, man, you need to go watch his Netflix documentary called The Black Godfather, man. And, you know, it's one of those ones, right, where it's like, I thank God that I had the

privilege and honor of sitting down and having a long, long, long, with Brother Clarence a couple of years ago. Because it was something that we were supposed to do before COVID, but then COVID hit, and then after COVID hit and the world opened back up. You know, we got to kick it at the polo lounge in L.A. And it was a great, great lunch. I'll never forget that day, man. And we had a long three, four-hour conversation.

And shit, it would have went longer than that if I didn't have to go do fucking Bill Maher that day. Yeah, man. There's nobody. Clarence Avon is the all-time leader and assist. Wow. Watch the documentary. Put people in position. The all-time leader and assist. Everybody from, like, if you go watch this documentary, you tell me who else can get Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, you know, your favorite celebrities to all be on one documentary talking about the greatness. I don't know how to get Barack there. What a...

You know? Oh my God. Poor Barack, man. How are they making him go out like this? That's fucked up. I don't think he's going out like nothing. All you got to do is not ignore it. Is that all?

Ignore it. Nobody's going to sit with him in an interview and ask him about that letter. I'll ask him. I'll be like, did you imagine anything today? What was your imagination like today? All right. What? What? What's going to happen?

You don't go surfing and I come back? You think I'm going to go paddleboarding? I'm going to go paddleboarding. Shit. You play it. You walk outside. You'd be like, who the fuck is flying these drones drunk? You know what I'm saying?

You're like, what the fuck? All right, Bigzo 509 says, if it was a civil war, which side Andrew fighting on. Come on, bro. You already know. Y'all already know. The side with the guns, Brian, with these New York Pussies. We ain't got no guns, bro. We need to be with the boys. Fucking crazy. You're saying a Civil War now or Civil War back in the day?

No. Oh, now is different. What y'all fighting for? These pink-haired lesbians or you want to fight for real America, bro? Yeah, depends what we fight. Depends what the civil is. That's exactly. If they're fighting a war about like every teacher has to be a drag queen. Yeah, I'm going to sit down with us. You know what I did?

Yeah. I mean, now, if you say every teacher needs to be paid, you know, seven figures a year, we can go to war for that. We're going to war. I'm going to war for that. Wait, on which side? The teachers. My mom was a public school teacher. Damn, bro.

Looks like we'll be fighting against each other. And now, no, teachers should really be some of the highest pay. But the way the teachers get treated criminally, bro. You know, teachers get treated criminally, man. Teachers should be making at least as much as doctors and lawyers, bro. At least, man. Like, first of all, not even just the fact that they got to fucking, you know, teach your kids. They got to deal with your little musty-ass children every day.

You know what I'm saying? Like, literally we drop our kids off to seven, eight hours a day with this one adult. I'm a dad of four. You know how stressful that shit is? Yeah. Now, you one teacher and you got to deal with 20, kids that you don't have no emotional connection to. And you never wanted.

20's best case scenario. 20 what, Chris? 20 is best case scenario. 20 is best, exactly. And you never wanted to be there. What do you mean? Like, I would say the vast minority of teachers actually wanted to be teachers. I think they start off wanting to be teachers.

No. Nobody starts up wanting to be teacher. They just, they think that they're too educated, too smart to do like a working class job, like be like a plumber or be an electrician. So they decide. a working class job. Yeah, but they think that they're too educated to be a plumber and electrician

or a garbage man. So they're like, I will do this other working class job that has like social credit and appreciation even though it makes less than those jobs. I think it's a passion you have to have to be a team. The great teachers have the passion. But the majority of them do it

because they don't know what they want to do in their life. So they're like, okay, I'll go do this thing that people respect. But then they resent the fact that they're doing this thing that they don't love, they're not interested in, and they're getting paid nothing for. It's a really tricky situation.

I want to record to show that's not a fact. That's Andrew's opinion. I mean, that's what the brilliantness is about. I don't think people think they're necessarily above those other type of jobs. I think, unfortunately, for a lot of people, and it's true, it's a union job that's pushy, and once you get in, you can't be touched. And I think the unions are a large part of the problem. You know, that might not be popular to say.

Listen, here's the reality of it, right? Nobody should spend $200,000 on a master's degree to make $40,000 a year. I agree. You have to be retarded to do that. But you're not talking about public school teachers. You're not talking. I'm talking about public school teachers. I'm talking about public school teachers.

You're not spending $200 for a master's degree. What is a master's cost? Depends where you go to college. If you go to state school, it doesn't cost $200,000. What does it cost? What does a master's cost at a SUNY? At least $75. SUNY Albany.

At least $100. I think it's minimum $100,000. It's a good question. I don't really know. You got to be at least a hundred. So bare minimum, $100,000 to make $4,000. to make 40 grand to you. Doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, I don't like it either. That's why I said to most teachers, man, the teachers that I know, to Andrew's point, there are two types of teachers that I've met. My mother was a public school teacher, plus I know a lot of other teachers.

There's people that are very passionate. And it's the best when you're with them, and they fucking change your life. I've had teachers that changed my literal life. To be transformed it. Yes, I can salute to people like Maggie Olsen out there in Milwaukee, salute to people like, you know,

principal, Stacy Shells. Like, these are people that I, know, love the education system. Mr. Davis, Mr. Appel, Mr. Jonas. Yes. Ms. Brevard changed mine and she was a librarian. You know what I mean? Seriously, like, so.

I mean, look how, you're a fucking writer. You're a New York Times bestselling author. Oh, that's all my mom. Yeah, that's all that's. I'm just saying, like, of course you're going to be drawn to those things. So there are these people, but I think the majority of teachers that you go deal with in your life, unfortunately, don't really want to be there. I think it's the new ones.

I will say the new teachers I've met, and I'm not, this is not the all teachers, because I know that y'all love your job. But some new teachers I've met really are just, like, I'm quitting because I don't make enough money. Yeah, I like that I have my summers off and then I stop going to school at 3 o'clock. Yes. You know, like I get there at 8 and I get out at 3,

and I have my whole summers off. And I get health insurance and I get benefits and I do all these things. And yeah, it's, there's some protection, I think, which is what Chris is saying. But clearly we have a flawed system where we're not paying them enough to get, the ones that are the most brilliant at teaching,

which is an art. Those people may be going to teach elsewhere, do other things, et cetera. I just don't even want to be in the profession because you can't reward it. It's only about 15 grand to get a master's at SUNY system. What the fucking SUNY system? Muslims?

No. Oh. Like, why would you? 15 grand. That's just New York, though. No, that's true, but that's just a, the small city college. That's a CUNY or SUNY?

Sunni, not Quni, Sunni. Slued to all the teachers out there, though, man. Most private school is 100 and a lot. Yeah, easy. I am Travis Rich says, has success drove people away from you that you were close with? Uh, yeah.

What the fuck? What about you? Has success driven me away from people that what? No, has success? What's the, oh, has success drove people away from you that you were close with? Has success drove me away from people that I...

No, has success drove people away from you that you were close with? No. Lucky bastard. No. Then I was, like, my real friends? Yeah. Or, like, people of your friends in the entertainment, but you're not really friends. Your kind of colleagues, because you all have, like, a mutual goal.

The beauty of what you got is that your friends realize, who you are, what you are, what you do, and they've all rallied around you and put themselves in different position to help this whole enterprise grow, which is very rare. There's only a few people I see with it. Salute to LeBron James and his team.

You know, the Mavericks and the Rich Pauls of the world. Salute to Kevin Hart and his team. Salute to Jay-Z and his team. I have not seen it any other way, and I would be lying to you if I told you I wasn't envious of that. When a man, especially men, because, you know, I have that kind of team, but it's a lot of the women in my life, you know what I'm saying? But when men can say, that's the guy, we don't do what he does.

But that brother has a talent that can help all of us grow and help this whole enterprise grow. So we're going to rally around that. Man, when you see that, it is unbelievable. Unstoppable, I envy anybody who has that. Somebody like Jess O'Laris, my good sister, Jess O'Laris. I tell her that all the time. She got that.

You know what I'm saying? Because it's her sister, you know, Nye and it's her cousin London. You know, it's her man, her best friend Prince. You know what I mean? Like these people, you know, I love it. I'm just lucky my friends are talented. You know what I mean? because you could have friends that are not talented

and you want to work with them, but it's just not going to work and you're not going to get there. But I'm just very fortunate that my friends are brilliant. And then so working with them is one very easy. They get to thrive. They get to be successful. And through their success, they're helping me achieve the goals that I have.

I'm incredibly lucky. And they're not entitled. You know what I'm saying? They're not entitled to anything because I saw this clip that it was 50. I think he was talking to drama. We can actually insert it. I saw him talking and he was saying that. that you pray for success,

but you don't pray for the jealousy, the envy, and the entitlement, you know, that comes along with being successful. The interesting thing is when we pray for success, we don't pray for jealousy, don't pray for envy, we don't pray for entitlement. And we can't have those things without success. And this is what changes the relationship around you from the start,

because I want everybody to come with me because we went on the road, a time we got for the tour, I said, I can do whatever I want as long as I keep working. If you watch any artists over the years, Their entourage is always smaller, smaller, like it never failed. There's no way around it.

The entitlement, you may come back, you may bought him a car, but he's like, yo, you could buy me, prayer. When did I become responsible for your whole life? And he was like, you can have your, you can have your guy who's been your guy forever, and you'd be, you know, you buy him a house, and he'd be like, why you ain't buy me this house?

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You know, it's like, I get it. I totally understand it, man. So, you know. That's the tricky thing, man. That's why it's great when everybody, like, eats what they hunt, you know? I think that's the healthiest

form. I absolutely agree. Because everybody feels incentivized by the success. That's right. And don't try to do what the person you're close to is doing. Yeah. I think that's, you know, my first book, I talk about how, you know, I got a chapter,

fuck your dreams. If it's not your dream. Because a lot of times we see things working for other people. And we're like, oh, that's what I should be doing too. But the reality is, no, it's not. You got to go figure out what is good for you to be doing. It's so hard for people, bro. You're so right.

You're so fucking right because you're going to spend the rest of your career chasing. And you'll never be as great at someone else's dream as you will be at yours. And you're not even trying. Yeah. Like dig deep in that fucking butthole and try to figure out what's in there for you. I'm serious, man. Like what does God have plan for you? Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? And guess what? If you do have an entity around you that you can look at and be like, man, you know, because of this person, I have proximity to this and I have access to this. And like, you know, if I did start doing this and it would be kind of easier because we know these X, Y, D, these people, like, figure that out too. I don't have used me. I have no problem.

Just don't misuse me. You know what I'm saying? But I have no problem being used. If you can't be used, you're useless, man. 100%. You know? Yeah, that chasing success. It's a very tricky thing.

Man, I had a thought this morning. Talk to me. But I'm working on my new book. And I had a thought this morning about how I don't even like the term chasing. Because you don't have to chase what's meant for you. You don't have to chase greatness. You don't have, like, none of us have truly chased. Like, you didn't chase wanting to be one of the biggest standups in the world.

It was going to happen for you. All you had to do was state of course. Yeah, work hard. Work hard. And whatever pace you were at, like, running is not going to make you get to that destination any quicker. Like, there's nothing, you shouldn't have to chase anything that is yours. If I'm chasing something, I'm trying to catch it because it's fucking trying to get away. Yeah, it's almost just like, it's like the more authentic you can be in your, like, art or your creation is the closer you'll be to achieving those dreams.

You know, we had Jelly on Flagrin, he said a really interesting thing. He's like, you know, I was writing all these songs, but there was like a disconnect, right? And it was like, he has this fun loving exterior, but deep down he's really sad. So he tried to write fun loving songs because that was the exterior. And then he tried to write songs that were sad, but with a fun loving exterior. So he's writing fun songs about sad shit, and there was still a disconnect. and then he wrote how he actually felt and he was pure and honest

because a lot of times our personalities are defense mechanisms for what we feel inside. You know what I mean? Like you were an anxious dude to develop this amazing sense of humor to calm everything around you, right? You can control the environment with it. I'm sure it's part of the reason

why I've developed a sense of humor, right? It's just like how do I control what's going on? And like when you get to create authentically, look at how the people gravitated to it. He just threw the video up. And there's literally a comment on the video It's seven years older, however many years old it is. And it says, hey, was thinking about, hey, tried a little something different.

Let me know if you guys like it. Maybe put it on the album, question mark. Like, no, the biggest song he ever had. Wow. Right? Wow. And it's, you're right. It's like, I think that's one issue I have right now with the social media generation

is that it almost feels like there's a chase for success on views. and there's a little bit of a removal from chasing your art or your authentic way of expressing yourself. And if views and clout are the thing, they're kind of devoid of art in a way.

Yes. You don't need any talent. You just do the wildest thing. You set yourself on fire. Exactly. I'm going to set myself on fire. I'm going to jump out of a building. I'm going to run into a store with a bicycle and break the window. And in my experience, I'm always drawn to the artist. And I've seen, people who I thought were like really

good artists like and by art I don't mean necessarily painting it could be music it could be philosophy it could be comedy whatever and I've seen them kind of chase the algorithm or chase the success or chase whatever and then kind of leave their art a little bit in that pursuit

and it's yeah it's one thing that I hope that they eventually readjust because the people who have careers are always maybe chasing is the right word are always trying to be pure and authentic in their creations. It's something I've, yeah, I'm, yeah. No, the people who are authentic are just trying to be.

They're just, because they only know how to express that one thing. That's right. You know. Because what you said about jelly roll is what, what you said about jelly roll is what so many of us creatives go through. Because when you're in this industry, this industry won't let you be. It just won't let you be who you truly want to be in whatever moment. People trying to make money off you.

So that, hey, do that thing. It makes us the money. Remember when that happened, that caused you to do this and that called that. So we need more of that. And it's like, hey, they ain't there no more, yo. You know what I mean? So you got me chasing something that has ran away from me already. And if you listen to them too much, you end up creating inauthentically.

And then I've seen people end up doing an impression of themselves where it just like, Hello. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I became a character of myself. And that shit was corny to me It was funny to us

Now when I was really ignorant It was slapped harder When it was real When it was real Like when you watch me talking By the way you'll still get that right If I'm talking You see me talking to Magic Johnson

Yeah yeah When you first got the information Did you ever say to yourself It was that nasty bitch from Sacramento Who did that When you You? You think?

Like that, no question about it. I'm going to ask them that my whole life. Yeah, yeah, it's coming out. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's authentic. Yeah, yeah. Like, the other shit might be funny, but it's like, that ain't real. I can look at myself and be like, boy, I was really, really handed up.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So, and that's what I be trying to talk to these youngsters about is that, man, the reason there's nothing, like, inspiring in that space right now is because everybody's doing the same thing. and nothing is rooted in who these people really are. Tell them to pursue the art. Just say, hey, pursue your art. See your art, man.

Find a craft and then try to pursue that with the most authenticity you possibly can. And that's going to be scary, and it's going to be much harder. It is going to be way harder because you're probably in uncharted territories, whereas these other things have already been kind of crafted. People have done them, so you go,

oh, I can just kind of replicate what they're doing, right? that's not even close to as scary as creating authentically as you are but one you owe it to yourself two and two if you have fans you owe it to them you got to keep pushing that's right you got to look different they got to feel different

the sound got to be different you got to keep pushing and the people if you're pushing authentically I believe that if they truly fuck with you and they know that you're being pure they'll fuck with that. People can see through the bullshit that's why I say I get it when you're young and you're trying to figure

it out, the shit that bothers me when I see old motherfuckers doing that shit. Because it's desperation. It's like, bro, you look desperate as fuck. Like, I don't care who online is telling you that you falling off. I don't care who online tells you they don't fuck with your podcast.

You don't let those people dictate your motion or your movement. You can't fall off if you're creating authentically. In my personal, if you're an artist, if you're an artist, if you want to do art, you cannot fall off if you create authentically. Because there's always to be somebody that fucks with you.

I think we live in this world because of social media, everybody wants to have the positive algorithm and they want a whole bunch of people saying how much they love them. That's not how this shit is designed. This shit is designed for you to go on your phone and for people to tell you how much of a piece of shit you are. So the reality in a situation is choose who chooses you.

I choose to fuck with who chooses to fuck with me. I don't care. I don't know if that's a million people are 100,000 people. I just know that there's a core group of people who rock with Charlemagne. And thank you. And the easiest way to find that

is just by creating authentically. That's it. Because if you put out there in the world who you are. That's it. And the people that like that are going to be the people to fuck with you. You know, every time,

remember I used to say on the podcast with brilliant, the thing I used to hate was when everybody, like, when people started coming into our world because we have cultivated a space like brilliant idiot, listeners know each other.

We have a conversation when we see each other. It's a vibe. Same thing with Breakfast Club listeners. We have curated something that isn't for everybody. It might have a big mass audience, but it's not for everybody. And I don't want it to be for everybody. Not supposed to. At all.

Because those are going to be the motherfuckers that ruin the party. Yes. And you'd be like, who invited this person in? I don't want that shit, man. Yeah. What do you guys say to the young creative who, because like now with social media, things kind of change where it's like people can just get famous by being a personality.

Like they don't, you guys keep stressing, oh, be authentic to your art. But like nowadays artists, so like the lines, I think people are, I think you find out if you're more addicted to attention or addicted to art.

And the people that are more addicted to attention will do whatever garners attention. And the people that, are addicted to their art, whatever it is, dude. If it's editing videos, if it's singing, if it's comedy, it doesn't matter what it is. The people that are addicted to that are always going to try to push that, change it, do something more pure, more authentic, do something they've never done before,

like put themselves in a scary position, try to find out what they're really truly motivated by at that time in their life and express it. And the people that are just addicted to the attention oftentimes might be great at the art, but what they will easily do is gravitate away from that art and then do more and more of the attention-seeking things. Yeah, Andrew is absolutely right, man.

And we do you said something about- And we all want attention, too. Don't get me wrong. I just think that if you care about the art, you want the attention for the art. For the art. And that's what Alex- I get so happy.

That's right. Sorry, like, there'll be moments that we've had over the years, years and years of clips coming out where, like, it will be this, like, perfect lob, set up. punchline, dunk. And it's like, that's a decade of podcasting together to the point where you even know where your friend is going. To me, that's art.

It's like playing basketball. It's like, I know you're going to cut to the lane. You don't even got to look at me. Dine. That's right. And to me, when we post that and then people love it, that's the most satisfying. Even when they pull up old clips and the old clips, I got Cheryl Underwood sent me a clip, right? Yeah, yeah.

And I reply to Cheryl, this is my podcast. Yeah. This is me and it. What are you talking? Cheryl always gives me clips via DM. Like, shit, she'd be laughing at it. And I'm like, this is us. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, the Soldier Boy thing? Remember, like, that was like a three-minute, or five-minute bit that we just fucking hit, hit, hit, hit. And it wasn't, the funny part is the clip wasn't even, it was funny, but it was actual thought-provoking, like, which most brilliant it is stuff is. And she hit me, it's like, what do you think of this?

And I'm like, it's you talking about why you think the word African-American is oppressive. Yeah. And I'm like, Cheryl, this is art. This is what we do. Everybody. You know? But what Alex was saying,

Alex said that people want to be famous. That's the problem. If that's your mindset, if your mindset is I want to be famous, I want to get views, you know, I want to go viral. That's not,

that's not an artist's mindset. Yeah. That's not what an artist is thinking about. And don't get me wrong. We all want success and we all want those things that happen to our art. And don't get me wrong.

We've all done fucking shows that we were like, this is an art. Like we've done some shit back in the day on MTV where it's like, This is an art. Like, you try to be as artistic as you can, maybe in it. But you also want success and want fame.

So I relate to those things. But once you get into a position, you know, that we're in where, like, we have the choice. Yo, you don't got to write a book. Do you know what I mean? I like writing books. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you're choosing to do that with your time.

Like, but you see key word, it's like you say once you're in the position that you're in. 100%. A lot of these younger people. And famous was probably the wrong choice of words. It's more like, hey, as a creative, they want to make a living being a living, a creator. And so they're all just trying to find or make their way. And so it's like, that's why I feel like, I never sacrifice my stand-up, though, but it's like, I never sacrificed my stand-up. Like, I never once was like, and that's why I was never on TV for stamp early on,

because they're like, you can't say these things on fucking television, right? But I, that was the thing that was like, I'm going to do this in the most pure way I want to do it, is that is my baby, that's my heart. And then finding doing other things, doing MTV shows, doing podcasts, right, where I end up falling in love with podcasting, but even doing MTV shows where I was like, this ain't my art, but I'm going to try to do it as close to, as authentic as I can,

even though there's going to be limitations on it. And I have to be okay with that, because I also want success. I also want a family that I can provide for, like... I think we were just young, too. Yeah, when you're young, you're not thinking about it. Listen, you should take advantage of all opportunities that coming away. But we would fight for, like, things that we thought were created.

Absolutely, absolutely. But I just think we were young, and we were taking advantage of opportunities and we were listening to people who did have our best interests at it. You can't act like a lot of those, a lot of those executives at MTV had a lot of our best interests at heart.

They did, and it worked out. And it did. It worked out. We've had some great TV careers, you know what I mean? The only thing I would say is that when it comes to media, everybody literally is doing the same thing. And I think that there's so many different realms

of just the media game people could be into. Like, I give credit the people who can get on YouTube, and not just be the talent, be the producer, be the editor, be the writer, you know what I'm saying? Like, they do all of these things, right? But you might be better at producing

than being a talent. You might be better at writing than being a talent. You might be better at editing than being a talent, but you'll never know that because you're too busy trying to be a talent. I listen to a lot of different voices because I do know that the next generation of even radio superstar is probably going to be somebody from the podcast world,

somebody from the YouTube space. But I'm telling y'all right now, just like I can listen to a lot of radio talent and be like, Jesus Christ, man, it's not a lot of good radio talent out here. It's not a lot of good talent in no spaces either. I don't give a fuck how much you do your show every week. And you know what's crazy?

I don't even fuck how much you talk. They might be talented. They're just trying to be something they're not. So you don't even know. It's like, have you ever seen a diamond before it's cut up and looks nice? Yeah. That's what they are.

So it's just like, you're not even giving yourself the opportunity to cut yourself up and look beautiful. There's like a couple of people I see that I'm like, yo, that person got something. You know what I mean? Whether it's their voice, whether it's their POV, I know some people who got the voice and the POV.

You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to never fuck with you because you talk too much shit about me. But the reality numbers. I'm not funny. But I do pay attention. But I can look at some people and be like, all that person needs is the right opportunity and the right coach. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. And they out of here. You know? Find your art. Yeah. Pursue it as much as you can. There's going to be limitations earlier in your career,

and you have to accept those. And then as you get more successful, be more authentic with your art. But if you have an art, I'm telling you it's going to be so much more fruitful. Your life is going to be so much more fruitful. Because you see these dudes that, like, they just chase attention,

and then they get all the attention, and they're still miserable. Yeah. They get all the attention, and they're like, okay, well, now I guess I need all the money. Like, And it's just this never-ending game to try to fill themselves because they don't got an art to fill themselves.

There's nothing better than putting time into something you're proud of. That's right. And then people appreciating it. That's right. Oh, you know somebody. I hope everybody can experience that once in their life, bro. I agree. Oh, that is the best.

I do want to salute somebody. I want to salute a podcast that I've been enjoying. And it is the need to know podcast. Need to know. The need to know podcast. just pulled them up. It is Savon, Alex, and Reggie. I like what y'all fucking do. Let me see.

I like the chemistry. I like, you know, the things y'all talk about, the things y'all discuss. I enjoy listening to y'all. I really do. Savon, Alex, and Reggie. Three youngings called the Need to Know podcast. Salute to them. And no, they're not on the black effect.

Paul, you cock suckers who think I only big up Black Effect podcast, but now, say, Savon, Alex, and Reggie, the Need to Know podcast. I fuck with y'all. Shout out to you guys, man. Keep doing it. Don't let me down. The Need to Know podcast.

That's why I don't be wanting to shout people out. It's the Need to Know podcast. It's not to be confused with Need to Know. What I said. Because Need to Know is too old white guys. No, no, no, no. This is The Need to Know podcast. Yeah, Savon, Alex, and Reggie.

I like what y'all do. I like the chemistry that y'all have. And Reggie is, he's in radio. I don't know what he does in radio. I just, I just hear him talk about he's in the radio space. And Seyvon was a producer. He was on a show, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've met him. I've definitely met him before. And Reggie, I don't know her background. But I just, I like that. Y'all should stay together. Y'all should stay together as a unit, and y'all should continue to grow what it is that y'all are doing.

There's definitely something there. With the need to know podcast. I really feel that way. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots

who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening.