The Brilliant Idiots - The Agenders

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

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I love the premise of this show Smart people talking about dumb shit I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby Yep, Shalamin Nagu. We are the brilliant idiots podcast Back for another week of brilliant idiotness God damn

I feel like I'm still taping flavor Too, yeah We did We said three hours of flavoring How long was that flavoring that was like 245 We might even cut a little bit My God I was long

Hold on but it's already out isn't it? Yeah, we drive out. to today. We're recording this now today on Tuesday. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. I text, I'm like, man, I text y'all. We potted today, yo. Because yesterday was pod, pod, pod. Yeah, yeah. We were podding. Podden. That's what pardin is about, though. Yeah. But, you know. All right, right, right, right. Come on. Let's get to the gay shit. We didn't talk about this yesterday. Yeah. But you've seen the picture. There's a beautiful picture of black love.

I think it's a beautiful picture of this love, period. But it's also black love? Yes, it is black love because it is two black men. But, and I, I don't know, I don't even want to say, I guess, you know, we're not used to seeing black men like that, but that's not true. We all used to seeing black men like that. Yes, we're seeing, we're, we're not, I guess we're not used to seeing men in this pose. We're talking about the picture of Jonathan Majors and Michael B. Jordan. Oh, is that what that is? What you mean? Oh, shit. I thought, I thought, I thought, you looked. No, but I thought this was a moonlight two. Shut up.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's not, they're not coming out with moonlight too. No, this is, I guess it's a promotion for Creed. I don't know what magazine it is, though. You know what's crazy? These pictures don't look crazy to me. They're beautiful. Black love, man.

Just love, period. Male love. Yeah, but it's also black male love, dude. That's a revolutionary. Like, I don't, black love is revolution. Black love is revolutionary. But there's nothing crazy about these picks to me. There's one pick Jonathan got, I don't know if that's Jonathan's hand on Michael B.

George's head or Michael's holding his own head, you know, with the suffering from success polls. There's another one with Jonathan got his arm around Michael. Another one with their head to head. Another one they both got their hands. Like, let me, can I read with Van Lathen? Our guy, Van Rowe. Please, please read with Van Rope. Damn, should I take my veneers? I don't want to spit on the mic during this one. Yeah, please do that. Please do that. These aren't veneers. These are not vizal. You're where. Yeah. Van Laiten said, I've been seeing the comments on this pick of my brothers, Mike, and Jonathan.

It seems like the tenderness makes some of y'all uncomfortable. Let me tell a little story. I had an epic panic attack in 2004. I've told this to y'all in the past. Me and my oldest friend Ryan were on our way to a basketball game, and my body just started punishing itself. We stopped, and I went into a convenience store. They called paramedics.

I actually had to be airlifted. I, and they thought I was going to die. My friend who was with me was what y'all would call a street N-word. He put that in parentheses at the time, doing his thing and pretty emotionless about it. When I was spiraling, hyperventilating, and breathless, I turned around and saw him. He was crying. He didn't know what to do.

And he thought his friend was about to go. He put his arm around me. Van, you okay? Van, I love you, brough. Come on, man, breathe. The closeness of the moment. The touch, the words, help balance me. I was also scared to ride in the helicopter.

My friend, my brother, who is not at all what any of you would call woke or evolved, even still, had to show up for me with affection. He had to hold me. I'm begging, y'all. Stop adding to the emotional castration of black men. stop sexualizing every bit of vulnerability we show, including to each other. It's hurting us,

and it's hurting those around us too. Michael B. Jordan and Jonathan, appreciate y'all. Let me tell you something, man. Tell me. If you see gayness in this picture, if you see anything about sexuality in this picture, it's you. What do you mean?

Because I don't see that in this picture. Like, what does that mean? Stop sexualizing every bit of vulnerability we show. I didn't even see vulnerability. I just saw a photo shoot. You've done photoshoots, Andrew. Yeah. In photo shoots, photographers tell you to do things.

You either do them or you don't. Is this what we're doing now? What do you mean? We're going to have a completely different take than before we're listening to the fucking podcast. Oh, no, no, my take, oh, by take my, no, no. My take from before, no, no. My take from before when I was trolling van yesterday.

This, this is fun. This, there we go. I'll read. Hold on. Let me find it. Let me find it. I'll read to you what I think. text ban yesterday because I saw that

and I was like, perfect opportunity to fuck with my guy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because, you know, that's what I like to do. I like to fuck with my people's. So this is me. This is me. And I text. It has nothing to do with Jonathan and Michael. I'm just responding to the context of what Van tweeted.

Yeah. I said, you said everything except for what if these brothers just want to be gay. And now they definitely can't come out. And Van said, but we know they aren't. And I said, well, we don't. And I said, I don't know what either one that their sexuality is.

I don't care. I'm just saying, what if they are? You didn't even remotely acknowledge the union, okay? You didn't even acknowledge it. You made it about everything else. But the fact that they could be. They could be. And they could love each other, and that's beautiful.

By the way, I would say it's bigoted to not assume that that's one opportunity. Here's the thing. How about don't even acknowledge the picture other than for what it is a picture? I just see a dope pick. That's a dope pick to me. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Tell me what you see. I see some gay shit, bro. I ain't go a lot, man. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. What you think he was going to say? What the hell you set me up for? That's not what he was saying before the camera.

What was I saying before? You were saying it looks good and you like it and you think it's dope. Yeah, I believe I'd feel that way about gay things. There's nothing gay. I grew up in a dance studio. We got to stuff. You don't think that I haven't seen that? Here's the thing.

First of all, there's nothing gay about it, but the one holding the other guy's head, Where do you think the rest? Where do you think his head's going on here? I don't even know that he's holding his head. But I want to tell y'all, I want to have a conversation about this alpha male thing. Yeah. Let's have a conversation.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, what? Talk about, talking about. Hold on, time about. Listen, can we have a conversation about this alpha male thing? Yeah. If you can't beat either one of their ass, shut the fuck up. Hey, talk that shit. Because soon as Jonathan Majors and Michael.

Because they pretend to box. No, they really do box. Oh, my God. Here we fucking go. Do you believe everything in the fucking. fucking movie. Did I see, kill an anaconda?

Did Ice D. Take out an anaconda in Amazon? What else happened in the movies that you actually believe is real? They box enough to throw a two-piece

and knock you the one of y'all out. I mean, maybe if we're not defending. You think you could beat Jonathan Majors and Michael B. Jordan and a Michael B. Major's is.

But Michael B. Jordan, I would wipe the floor with him. Oh, God. There's not even a question about that. You're out of your mind. I've been boxing since up 20 years old.

You're out of your mind. You're out of your weight class. That guy, in better shape than you. Look how tall he is. He's cut up. He's about six feet? See?

See? I thought he was like Hollywood six feet. See? I thought he was about, I thought he was like Hollywood six feet. I thought he was like five feet. He bought your height. He actually bought your height.

All the jokeside, he bought your height. I've been around Michael, he bought your height. All right, I might not wipe the floor with him, but I'm going to get a decision. I'm going to get the air. No, no, no.

I'm talking about it. I'm talking about it. I'm talking about it. Jonathan, No, no. I don't know how talk John is. No, no, no. Look at that.

Come on now. Come on now. I'll beat that guy out. No way. I beat that. There ain't no Calvin Climb out of fucking me up, though. That's not going to happen. No Calvin Climbled from Marky Mark to Michael B is fucking me up.

What you're doing right now is exactly my point. And this is a message to all. I started out with this is beautiful. You try to make it violent. Why can't celebrate two men hugging on one another? No, no, no, no. It's not about you. It's not about you, but it's not about you.

but it is about you, but it's about everybody that has things to say about, oh, that's gay. What's wrong with being gay, bro? Listen. Can you tell me?

If you're not gay, you don't want to be called gay. You know that. But, listen. I get called gay every day. Me too. And I'm not going to sit here and act like, come on.

Hey, yo. See, you're head. Right? Right. What the, what? Seamen.

When the. That's called seaman. I'm not timing out. We're not timing out. When I pause When you hug your guy and Jellin's up on your cheek That's a little crazy

Oh, you think that's crazy They was damn near neck kissing And all them fucking photos And you were saying There's nothing wrong with it It's not Here's the thing All I'm simply saying

There isn't anything wrong with it That's my point My thing is this Whether you gay, you straight To all you people out there You're still beautiful Listen to all you people out there Calling them brothers gay

To all you people out there saying They're not alpha male They're alphas! They will whip your ass And then fuck And that's what I want to know. That's what I want to know. Can you really call somebody soft?

Can you really call somebody beta if they can beat your ass? We're not calling them soft. Nobody call them soft. What are you calling him? Okay. Okay. So, Alex, keep that same energy. No, no, no, no.

I'm going to make sure that happens. Listen, I'm going to make sure Jonathan Majors are Michael be joining. Why are you bringing Jonathan Majors into this? I know. Why y'all don't want no Jonathan smoke? I, he, he looked like he could fuck me up, right? I don't know a lot. Exactly.

I ain't going to lie, bro. I think both of them. Wait, how tall is Jonathan Majors? I think he taller. Same height? No, I don't think Jonathan the same height. Nah, I think he just learned boxing. If he just learned boxing for the movie, I'm fucking him up.

Now, Jonathan, look at that. Come on, man, what you're going to do with that? Except get your ass kicked. I mean, he is in phenomenal shape. They both look absolutely beautiful. I'm trying to tell you. I feel like I might be gay. Maybe this is what we really got to get out.

Maybe we're projecting all homosexuality. Now we're getting in some way. Yeah, because they made you feel gay when you saw them rubbing up on one another. and you can't help with things sex. What? What sound just came out of me? Nobody wants, listen.

Can men be honest with themselves? One second? You see Jonathan Majors and Michael be joined. And you think hands on my knees on the top. You know what I'm saying? That's what you're saying. Come on. Come on, bro.

Let's lose. That's what you think. That's what you think. Look at that. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man.

You know what I'm saying? Every day the sun don't shine. That's why you love tomorrow. I might let him beat me up just to build his confidence. Both of them beating y'all life. What? Why do you think that I can't box a little bit? I want to see my-on-one we could take.

Oh, two-on-one one? No, you can't. What? I don't think either one of y'all two-on-one could beat Michael B. Jordan or Jonathan Major. You know he's an actor. He's an actor. He's an actor.

He's an actor. He's an actor. I said y'all to. Yes. I don't say. You told me how he got down the sweet. He didn't get fucked up by a sweet guy. I ain't old like.

He didn't get up. But he's a karate expert. You're going to cat right now. The guy was number two in all the United States in karate. You're going to come right now. Yes, bro. Get the fuck out of here. Y'all ain't never told me that far.

This motherfucker was number two in all of the United States and karate. Not the Swedish guy. He's from Sweden. How are you going to be number one in the United States? He was when he was younger when he was in the streets. Swear to God. When he was in these streets. You don't remember none of that shit.

What do you mean, bro? All that shit will go out the windows. as you see Jonathan May just walk in the room. It went out the window with a Swedish bouncer, so. You know what I hear him? I caught him good. No, he did catch him. He did.

And then he whipped that a baton. So what I'm going to do against a baton? Can I be completely honest with you? If I'm really... If you're no karate, you take that shit from him? I'm going to make an argument for Al. Okay. The guy, the bouncer said in the court,

Al hit him 40 times. Oh, that's true. Al only hit him three or four times. But it felt like it was 40. That's not what it was. That's karate, son. It's say that. Don't ever say I don't got you, son.

I ever said it on. God. Yo, me and Al, together? He said that in the courtroom to make it seem like he was under more of a threat. That's why he had to pull the baton up. What, what? Say pull the baton at one one. Hold on.

Not why we got Jonathan Majors looking like that, though. That's what I'm trying to tell y'all. Johnson Majors might fuck you up. Listen, by the way, it is a lot of hate for Jonathan Majors and Michael B. Why are hating on Jonathan Majors and Michael B. Because the ladies like him and guys are saying. It's jealousy, bro. Listen, guys are saying things like that because they're jealous.

Jay Z had a line one time where Jay Z said, I think it was on Hey Poppy, where he said, have dudes saying, have dudes hating for real, like, have dudes hating saying shit, like I wish he was gay.

You know what I mean? Just because Jay Z was getting all the chicks. So he was saying that, saying that's what dudes say about him to keep their girl away from him. That's what I see happening with this Michael B. Jordan,

Jonathan Major shit. Oh, 100%. Because y'all are over critiquing every single thing they do. What are we critiquing, bro? Social media.

Why do you think Van, but that long-ass caption? And you, because you called him gay, too. And you called him gay, and you called him gay. I didn't call it. I'm going to make sure y'all meet y'all make this, God damn. You're going to see King. You're going to see King.

Hold on one. I just need to understand here. What did I say? You called them two brothers gay, yo. No, I said they could be gay. No, they could. Well, you didn't. I don't know.

Oh, wow. Oh, wow. What? Look at you flippity flopping. Oh, no. That's flip-flops right here, bro. I mean, in theory, we all could be gay. That's how it starts.

That's how it starts. But I don't think either one of those brothers are, but I do know y'all ain't going to keep that same energy in their face. So two on one, I got. All right. Two on one I got. When y'all get pressed. All right, right?

How are we going to handle it? Michael B. Jordan. He's sitting right there. He's sitting right. What are I got to say? Yo, in a boxing match. No, no, Michael B. Jordan sitting there. Michael B.

Yeah, the gay kid, right? In a boxing? No, no, not a gay kid, right? you coming on to me you're coming on to me are Jonathan Majors you coming on the gay

oh the gay guy right that's you that's what you said are you saying you're gay no that's what Jonathan would say to you you made me feel gay when I looked at you good answer when I looked at you good answer

that's the first time my life I felt so you can say I was wishful thinking wishes come true do you know listen listen listen listen listen you think I can't wriggle myself out of this? Y'all going to have to.

Wait, what do you mean we're going to have to? Because I'm going to make sure y'all meet Michael B. Jordan and Jonathan Mason. The guy's shit is fine. The trickiest thing is the fight thing because we actually have to fight. Y'all can't beat either one of them guys, bro. I don't know about all that, bro. I don't know about all that. I think you underestimate me.

Taylor, who you got your money on? But I don't know about Jonathan Majors. Maybe he's been fighting since he's younger. Who? Jonathan Majors. Maybe he's been fighting since he's younger. Both for them brothers. Nah.

No. All right. Most actors, I'll beat up. You know, you know, when Michael had got knocked out in, I think it was Creed 2. That was a real, he really got knocked out. By Tony Balloo, I think. I forgot who it was, but my point is, he's really in there banging with real boxing. All right.

So he can get dropped. Yeah, I don't know if that's the example you want to keep in the glass. That's the worst example. Hey, you know what I'm, hey, Alex talking real tough boys. You don't know that you're tough. Yo, one day Jonathan B.J. and Michael B. Jordan going to walk into WTF media. You keep bringing in Jonathan Majors for no reason.

Why y'all don't want the Jonathan's most. That's king, bro. Why y'all want the pretty boy? Y'all don't want the pretty boy? Y'all think Michael B. Jordan. Wait a minute. Why you think he's so pretty, bro? They're the two good-looking men. No, no, you said one was pretty boy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, no, no, no. Wait, which one is more pretty than the other? Michael B. Jordan. You think Michael B. Jordan better looking at Jonathan Majors? In the face? Yeah. You buggin. No, bro.

You're bugging. You bugging. You bugging. You fuck. Don't try to get out this ass, no, no, no. Don't try to get out this Jonathan Majors, bro. Jonathan Majors, bro. What university I can study.

Yep. Where's all your variants at? I want all the barriers. Whoa. Now you're trying to get out that ass. Now you're trying to get on Jonathan. Good stuff. Hold on you're bleeding in your mouth.

I am? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You fucking. In the bottom, your bottom one is got red on. Really? Yeah. Did you pay your bet earlier this time? For real, for real.

That's, it's inside the retainer. It's the embitter line. Yeah, but your teeth are red. I'm not making it up. Al, show out. So it's underneath the embezzaline. And nothing I can do about that right now. Take off the imbezolize.

No, that's fine. Take it off? Yeah, because the blood is underneath it. So it's never going to go away once you take it. That's how your mouth going to look after Jonathan May just catches you boy. Hey, man, Michael B. You keep saying you're the one who's so excited right now, biting your lip and shit. Come on, sir.

No, the bottom one, son. I don't take both of them out. Oh, shit, all right. All I know. All I know is that if you cannot beat Michael B. Jordan or Jonathan Majors in a fight, you can't shit on their manhood, bro. You know, first of all, calling somebody beautiful and hot is not shitting on their manhood.

I totally agree. but when you get under the comments and you make statements like they're not alpha males and their person who said that? Social media I'm not saying that y'all say that

There's nothing more alpha than and call them gay Who called them gay? We said they could be They could be You said gay I said what do you see when you see that picture You said some gay shit

You said gay No that was some gay shit Hold another man's hand That's not gay Let me do that to you see how you do Go ahead Get from get behind me Let's do all the poses

All right, right. All right, do the first one. Yo, that's like, wow. Put your head on my heart. Right there.

Right there. Okay. Now, now, come here, come here, look, look.

I don't want to touch this fucking gel. No, no, this is, I think I'm holding you like this. Yeah. Oh, my God.

How'd that look? Come on. This one right here. How you feel? Charlie, you look so uncomfortable. Why you look so uncomfortable, Charlotte?

Why you look so uncomfortable, You're gay as shit. Listen. Why you look so. Yo, don't grab my shoulder like that, y'all. That felt like you coming back for seconds. See? I didn't make you feel defensive.

I'm not saying they're gay, but the photos with some gay shit. That's appropriate in gay culture. No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. The only reason I was fucking was bad. How did it feel when I was holding you, bro? It felt normal. Gay is normal.

It didn't feel crazy to me. Like, that shit don't bother me. Like, that shit like that. Don't bother me. No, no, no. Nobody's saying it's bothering you. What I'm saying is when I was holding your tities, you didn't touch my titty.

I cuffed up your tit. You put your hand on my heart. Okay, when I put my hand in your heart, my head on your head on your head. I appreciated it. It felt good. Yes. It felt like, it felt revolutionary, though.

I have a dream. Listen, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. The white kid. Black kids. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Sit in podcast. Hold on. I'm going to tell all the motherfuckersers gay for two hours a week. I'm going to tell you what it felt like. I'm gonna tell you what it felt like. Hold on. I'm gonna tell you what it felt like. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. What it feel like? I'm gonna tell you what it felt like. It felt like Andrew, you love me, bro. It was the closeness of the moment, the touch, the words. It helped balance me. No, my friends, my brother, my podcast.

Who is not at all what any of you would call Wokel involved, even still had to show up for me with the fact. This guy This guy What are you insane human being Goes to a motherfucker's Deathbed post

You know Deathbed post is crazy Man you gotta stop with the deaf bad post Yeah for real Man shit ain't ever that serious as man I love man But shit ain't never as serious It makes it yo

Yeah, anxiety be playing tricks on you. I know. God damn, sometimes you just got to take a breath. Because you know what I do whenever I see social media outraged about something? I'm like, oh, God. I go look at it when I want to look at it. And then when I look at it, it's never as bad as they make it out to be. And here's the thing.

Why are images of men causing men to lose their shit? Why is everybody's ego so fragile? I don't know. Why is everybody's manhood so fragile? Why? Because they can't admit that they thought it was beautiful. And you know what else I know? What?

This guys out there dressed just like this who getting dick down. You know what I'm saying? What are you trying to say? You think you're dressing straight? I'm just letting you... With your Paris hoodie?

I'm just telling you all that the flames on your sleeves that images and perception have nothing to do with somebody's actual sexuality. That's true. Okay? There's plenty of motherfuckers out here oiling up their ankles,

letting they take. Tim's tap. That's all I'm saying. Who do you know? Who do you know? I don't know, man. I just think it's disrespectful. Like, listen, everybody has like different like, I don't even know if you call it metrosexual, but they have different things that they like to do.

Some guys paint their nails. Listen, I wear my pants short. Yep. That's cute. You know what I mean? You know, you can't comfy, bro. Some guys go to the salon. You getting too comfy, bro. And say, paint my nails. They're picking out colors.

Yeah. I don't judge them. Some guys go and get facial peels and shit. What's wrong with that? You should. You should. There's nothing wrong with that. Okay.

Okay, what do I do? While we're being passive-aggressive, what do I do? Yeah, I got a handful of jail. All I'm saying is, this don't be so quick to call people gay, man. I agree. You know what I mean? Don't be so quick to, like, say somebody's not a man. I agree.

First of all, being gay don't make you not a man. You need to be gay to be a man. It's some gay to be gay. That's the other thing, too. It's some gay dudes out here that'll beat your eyes. And fuck it. And I really want to start seeing this. I want to start seeing more of this, bro.

You want to start seeing more gay dudes beat straight through his ass? Yes. Talk that shit. Now, if a gay dude beats your ass, can he take it? Man, shut up. No, I'm just asking. I didn't say he should be able to, but did he earn that? Do you know what I'm doing this?

Did he earn it? Oh, God, it's like a new version of loving basketball. You know what I'm saying? Loving boxing will be crazy. You street fighting for people's ass? Who? Whoa. Whoa.

If I lose, you lose. You lose. You lose. You lose. You know what I mean? That's a big L. But what if the plot twist of the movie is? This guy's losing on purpose.

So that, son, can I tell you something? I don't think I want you to tell me. No, no, no, no. I was at this little event shit yesterday, and it was a dude at the event, right? Gay dude who's working in the entertainment industry, right? And he told me he went to school at Missouri, right? Missouri. Yeah, Missouri.

And I was like, I was like, I was like, what? Like, gay dude like, were you out at the time? And he was like, he's like, nah, I wasn't out. Like, I joined a frat and everything. I was like, wait a minute, hold on. Did your frat like do some gay shit for the hazing? And he was like, no. It was the most annoying thing.

I joined the frat thinking that the whole time it was going to be this gay hazing and I was going to have to be like, stop it. No. And they didn't do no gay shit the entire hazing. So he joined her. frat for the free gay and then got no free gay because there's no gay in Minnesota or Missouri

well no I guess that frat didn't do the gay hazing but I'm saying there has so what he was not getting it anywhere else like I'm saying like there was nothing in Missou there was no action in Mazoo no maybe he got on the side but at least the fraternity you know how like you get in the spank you to paddle and he'd have to like bend over and like act like he hated it but

he didn't even get that wow you do it for the brotherhood you did it for the brotherhood yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah is that what they call black dudes that are uncircumcised what brotherhood you know yeah brotherhood

first of first of all first of all why do they know why do they know that's funny why you call them brotherhood oh go back. It's an inside joke. Sometimes it comes outside, but it's...

The moral of the story is, stop calling men gay and stop calling them baiters if you can't whip their ass. I don't care what their pictures look like. If you can't whip their ass, you can't call him soft, bro. That's all I'm saying. Yep. Um, what else we got? Drake, did we talk about this on Flay? I feel like... We talked about it a little bit on Drake, but I think he did bring up a good point, which is like when you are the superstar, you have the titties.

Yes. And he had this great conversation with Yadi. You guys go watch it. It's really cool to see two people that have, you know, amass immense success, like reflecting on it in a vulnerable and personal way. And obviously they have like a friendship so they can talk to each other.

Like not as if someone's trying to like get one over or extract some kind of news headline. People don't know either. Like they work together creatively too. Yeah. They're like real friends and like real creative part. Yadi writes. As much as people want to clown Yadi, Yadi actually writes.

So who clowns Yadi? Oh, no, people clown Yadi all the time. There was a moment where they tried to make Yadi the poster boy for whack artists, like whack rappers. They do that every now and then they'll pick one person and say, that's what's wrong with hip-hop, but nah, you can't do that to Yadi. Yeah, I thought, I think, who? People call Yadi Gay. That's a right of passage. Exactly.

If they don't call you gay, you really not proper. successful enough. No, I'll just die. If they don't say you gay, if they don't say you pushing some agenda, you're not successful enough. That's fact. That's just a fact. Because they're not afraid of your influence at all. They're not afraid of, you know. That's right. Because if they can't, if they don't have to make up shit as to why you're so successful, boom. That's what they do. Oh, he's in the Illuminati. To justify their lack of success. That's right. He's pushing an agenda. Oh, he's gay. They only do that to justify why they're not successful than you are. because they think they're better than you.

That's fact. But they're not. Because if they were, then they could do what you do. Stop working, stop, stop, stop, stop shitting on people's anointing, bro. That's what y'all need to do. Yeah.

But the thing I found interesting about what Drake said, here's the thing about women, beautiful women and beautiful women with nice bodies. Beautiful women with nice bodies are what men think they look like when they got on chains and nice clothes. Beautiful women with nice bodies are what men think they look like when they got on nice chains and nice clothes. Now, let me ask you this question before you move on.

Do you think that wearing a chain of nice clothes makes a man think that they actually look better? Yes. Oh, interesting. They think that it brings the same kind of attention. Oh, it does bring some kind of attention. Not really. Because when you walk in a room, it don't matter what that woman does. Like, it don't matter what the woman does at all.

Yeah. If she got a nice body and she's pretty, you're going to stop and give that woman attention. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're not doing that with the guy with nice clothes and jewelry because everybody has that nowadays. Yeah, it's easily accessible. Easily.

And I know people might say, oh, what about the girls with the BBLs and stuff? What about them? What about it? You're still stopping to pay attention. Yeah, you are. You know what I mean? That's a good ass point. You're still stopping the look.

The guy with the nice clothes and the jewelry, like that could be, that's the front nowadays. That's a good ass point. Like a beautiful woman is never truly broke. That's what I'm saying. Chris Rock has a great joke about it. his new stand-up special. Oh, does he? I'm not, I refuse to repeat it,

but, you know, he's, when he does it next month or whenever he doesn't, doing the live show in Baltimore, you're going to see it, and you're going to know exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, check out Chris. Chris is doing a live taping of his Netflix special.

Yes. So you're going to watch it live. Yeah, what's up, Tilly? The only thing that makes a guy with jewelry, like, someone to stop is that they smell good. Yeah, pheromones are important and smells are important. I think the jewelry and all that. that kind of stuff is really just, hey, let me, you know, I have, I have some money and I can take care

at you. And, um, not necessarily. It's supposed to give off that illusion. You know what I'm saying? That's why you're wearing the clothes in the, you're wearing the clothes in the jury because you want to give off the perception that you're successful. But anybody can do that. Oh, no, no. I'm not saying they are. I'm saying what they're trying to showcase. Yes. When you got a, when you're a woman with a body. Yeah. You're like, whoa. Yeah. It's a different level. Yeah. To go back to a Jonathan Majors of Michael B. Jordan, they can be in here with their shirt off and somebody can be in here with a million dollars worth of jewelry on.

Who do you think the woman going to want? Wait, what? If you look like Michael B. Jordan are Jonathan Majors. Oh, I don't think women care about looks, really. That's what you say? That's what you're saying? I do believe that. I don't think they care about looks. Show your wife a picture of Jonathan Majors.

I think she'll be like, oh, wow, that guy's in good shape. But a diesel guy that goes to the gym all the time, but he makes $25,000 a year is not a very attractive dude. I don't believe that. But I don't believe that. You crazy. I don't believe that. We'll put it like this.

You is the rich guy. You got late. Listen. You, you, you was the rich guy? I'm glad we're having this conversation. Yeah, me too. You was the rich guy? It'll be that guy that making $25,000 a year working at Starbucks fucking the shit out your wife.

Why you think the whole pool boy in now? Just fucking her. She ain't leaving them for me or leaving me for him. You'd leave her? If you found out. And she'd throw the whole thing away. My point is that, and not only would you leave her, your ego would be so crushed.

Yeah, of course, you would be crushed, you would never tell people, she was fucking the goddamn pool boy that was making $25 million. I mean, I would have to. I'm a comedian. No, you would. I don't even like pools.

Okay, well, let's ask you guys. You want to come by pool party? No. Would you put the pick? If the pool boy looked like Jonathan Majors, yeah. Would you put the picture up and say, this is what she was fucking?

And when you see the audience say, well, I can see why she would do that. I mean, this is sounding a great bit. I don't want this to happen. I don't want this to happen. But this is sounding like a great bit. I guess what I'm trying to say is nobody's leaving their husband who is providing protection, success, and security for the pool boy. They might have like they're lonely in their marriage and they're not being emotionally fulfilled in their marriage.

So they act out with the pool boy. They're using them as a vibrator. So they fuck the pool boy. Yeah. Divorce you. Take half. No, they don't divorce me. No, they divorce you.

Take half. Get half your money and go live half a little bit of a half. Can they get half? They cheat? You got to prove that cheated. I'll get that pool boy. And nine times out of ten, nowadays in this era, they're going to side with the woman anyway. No, no, that changed.

They're going to get half your money. I'm a woman. I identify as a woman. So got you there. Come ass. I'm a lady. And that's why I cheated. Yeah.

Okay. Okay, what? You're going to take the kids away from a mother? You're going to take the kids away from a mother? But you said something else You're going to give the kids this cheating bitch When we got this lonely bitch at home But listen you said something else that made sense

You said I got laid That's my point So did you Who got laid? You said I got laid So before any type of money Our success Oh you got laid

Yes we both We were getting laid before that I'm telling you that if you look like Jonathan Majes You can be broke and still get some pussy No no these are two different things And top notch grade A level, by the way. You can get some pussy. Yes, it can happen accidentally.

You can get pussy way easier if you become incredibly successful. Way easier. I don't know, bro. Women like success and drive. I don't know, bro. There's a woman right here. So tell you. Say something smart.

Say something smart. Where is Kevin Samu's? Kevin would tell you the same shit. No, Kevin would say, he wouldn't say go to the gym and get abs. Kevin would say the same thing. Get money. Get money. Kevin would tell her

stop being so picky. Wow. Wow. That's a fact. For what? For what? Answer your own question. Since you want to chime in,

be honest. Be honest. Be honest with what? Listen to you want to be honest. Be honest with what? Kevin Samuels would tell you not to be so picky. Why is that? Answer your own question.

You answer the question because you say something. You answer. You're saying something so what's up? I'm not, you. I have a dream. So what's up? I'm not Kevin Samuels. How do we get in?

Why do you know what Kevin's going to say? What did she say? What did the first thing she said? You. I said that you're wrong. People and go, women will go for money. That's not true. That's not true.

I don't think it's women go for money. I think women are, all the decisions in women's life really come down to security. Exactly. So money provides security. But not all, but security isn't always money. Security is who do I. I feel protected around. And it's,

roof helps with that. Yeah, that's protection from the elements. But sometimes you have a guy like that that can motherfucking, you know, fix the toilet. You know what I'm saying?

No, we're not saying that. The diesel motherfucker who can put together a fucking, the TV shit, you know what I mean? Like a hang of television. Really fucking tall,

tall strong guys provide security. Yes, and especially if there was a girl, for example, maybe early in her life, she had like, you know,

situations that created, you know, not only emotional instability, but like physical insecurity. And now she has this big guy who goes, I'll make sure that never happens to it again. I can totally see why that woman goes, I feel really save and protected by this guy. That's all I'm saying.

Yeah. That's all I'm saying. It's not always about money. You know what I'm saying? It's how always, but money's helpful. By the way, your guy. Your guy. Who's my guy?

Who's my guy? Your guy. It's my guy. Your guy. Big James Dole on a fucking dating app looking for love. Billionaire. on a dating app looking for love. That's marketing.

Now it's marketing. Y'all got excuses for anything. He on a piece. He on a piece of the dating app. Get the fuck out of here. It's like Grindr or some shit. What is it? Hey, yo. Hey, yo.

Google James Dolan dating app. James Don't going to fuck you up, bro. I definitely will watch the thing. Whoa, whoa. Ain't no way, bro. Ain't no way. Listen, James Dolan is on a dating app. Wait, you really think.

James Dolan is on a dating app. But you say grinder, bro. That's the gay one. It's Raya. Oh, yeah, Raya. What is, so, come on, God. Why would you not do that? Come on, bro.

He don't know how to use Instagram. My point is, read the caption, bro. Look at that. MSG, Nixon, Rangers boss, James Dolan, looking for love on Raya. There's nothing wrong with Raya? Scroll up. Read the caption.

I can't see it from all the way back here. Somebody read it. Read it out of it. Okay. James Dolan, the married but separated mogul who runs Madison Square Garden, the Rangers, the Knicks, is looking for a soul.

soulmate on the elite dating app Raya. So you decide to look at my profile. He recently posted, write me back. You might be surprised what you find. Ironically, Dolan infamous for using facial recognition spyware to keep his enemies out of the garden. Was outed by the post, around to the post by a fellow lonely heart who spot his mug on the app. The what word of that? Erascible.

Erascible, 67-year-old billionaire is surprisingly charming and down to earth in his dating profile. Scroll up because it gets better. There's a line in there that's so far. Oh, God. I have a job, all my hair, love my kids, but done making them sober 29 years. Still learning? Still learning? Still learning how to fucking words. Now, by the way, we all should still be learning. But, bro, still learning how to get girls at 67 and you're a billionaire. Go, Taylor, run to the garden. Go get him since women love successful men so goddamn much. You think he's women love billionaire so much? You think he can't get pussy, bro? Listen, have you ever seen him at the garden? This man sounds completely pussyless. What do you mean? I can probably beat you at Wirtle.

Scroll down, scroll down. I can probably beat you at Wurdle. Go back in a wordle, backgammon and gin rummy. I have a lot going on, but always have time for a friend. No, I don't think he can get pussy shorts. Charlotte, come on.

Why would he be on the app? First of all. Because he's looking for love. Man, shut up. Shut up. Both of y'all, shut up. Y'all sound insane. I'm not going to have you talking shit about Dullin

if it's not about the next. This is crazy of me. This is separated from his wife. Okay? And he's miserable. How is he? Why are you putting miserable on it? Yeah.

Did you read that profile? He's trying to get some pussy. He's joking. He's been married for a long time. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. He's rusty. Yeah, he is a little rusty.

Imagine you trying to get him pussy after all these years. How do you get rusty at 67 if you're a billionaire and so successful? Because you haven't been dating for mad long. You've been married. Oh, so he was been faithful to his wife's with your Hey, what are you doing right now? What are you doing right? I'm asking a question.

No, what are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? This is shooting that is terrible. I'm shooting that a terrible argument that you're presented. You damn near call him a cheater. You call him pussy list. And you know who his wife probably left him for? Who?

A guy who looked like Jonathan. Wait a minute, wait a minute. That's who. Wait a minute. Hold on. That's who. Hold on. Technically, if you work in Madison Square Garden, are you a gardener?

Hold on. This shit. What is Robert? She left him for a gardener who looked like Jonathan. Oh, no. Oh no. Can we Google her new boyfriend? Yo, you're foul, bro.

No, I just wanted, they gave you a piece of the nets. They gave you a piece of the net. They gave you a piece of the net. I'm just showing you all that money and success does not always equate to knowing how to get pussy or love. Nobody said that. Yes, y'all did. Money and success just helps. What do you mean?

I think it depends who you are, bro. I really do. I think it depends who you are. I think that at the end of the day, looks, a sense of humor, some charm gets you far. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't bring sense of humor and charm into that because that's also part of the equation. Sense of humor and charm is great.

You can't pay for that, though. That's true. That's why it's the most valuable thing. You can't pay for that. You can't pay for intellect. Nothing better than that. That's right. And shit, you can't pay for abs like Jonathan Majors or Michael B. Joddy.

I mean, you can. You can do some steroids. You don't think they're on the Royts? Yeah, but even still, you got to work out. You saw Oscar Delahoyer? He got the, yeah, he got the abs. Yeah, but they look stupid. I mean, he got the ass.

They actually look dumb. Like, Oscar De La Jolla Hoyas do not look real. Like, they look silly. But he's also 60 years old. Well, sometimes you got to sit your ass down somewhere. Yeah, that's true. What else we got? Taylor, what else we, what else we cooking on?

Taylor over there stewing. Yeah. Oh, here, here, let's stop. about this. Zendaya getting every single penny that she deserves. She deserves it all.

Honestly, she deserves every single penny. It's absolutely phenomenal. The die getting a million dollars an episode for Euphoria. As she deserves it. Here's my thing about Euphoria. They can't come back in 2020

with all of them still in high school. They got a fast forward. Why not? No, no, no. Because all of them, like, they're all in their late 20s now, or mid-20s. Why you need the acting to be real?

No, no. Michael B. Jordan, Jonathan, majors or professional boxers. Nah, they can't come back and be in high school. It just wouldn't seem realistic at this point, especially when we live in a world where everything is running parallel. So people see Zendaya, but they also see her character on euphoria.

You know what I mean? Are people see the white dude? I don't even know his name. I call him Fez. You know what I mean? Like, Fez had a hit and run the other day. You know what I'm saying? Like, so.

You just snitch on it. Everybody. When he had a hit and run? It's snitching because it's on the blog? Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. It's on the blogs.

You believe everything on the block? I know Mr. Kanye West's fan club. Exactly. As they're talking. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Ain't nothing. Hey nothing, Charlotte Man likes more than proven Alex wrong in a group show.

I know. Hey, nothing. Charlotte said, like more than proven out wrong. All I'm saying, okay, we say allegedly, alleged hit and run. You know what I mean? Because it is alleged. He's right.

But. They can't come back in two years because it's not even coming out until late 2024. They can't come back and still be in high school, bro. Phenomenal show, though. Amazing show. Amazing show. And by the way, we don't need them to be in high school because it's their life

outside of this school. But they already look too old for the high school. That is very true. Like, what's that blonde girl with the barnyard boppers? What's her name? I don't know. I don't know. Sidney Sweeney.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. God damn. Check his cookies. Yo, he yelled that shit out too normal. I bet you dip them cookies in some milk. Like, damn. He said that shit, like he got hers. All in his search.

But I don't blame him. All I'm saying is in two years, they'll be out of school. Let them be in the street because that's where the most interesting storylines happen anyway. Don't get me wrong. That play scene was amazing. I think the high school presents itself as a very interesting backdrop. But you think it's a high school that community of people?

I think the community is also interesting, but the high school raises the stakes. Like all these horrible debauchrous things are happening to these people who are actually children. You're like, oh my God, this is happening to a 16 year old. Like seeing an adult that's a heroin addict, it's like, okay, sometimes adults do that. But seeing a child addicted to drugs and like tearing apart of her family and that's a good point. Seeing children, yeah, I don't know, just seeing children go through this stuff, just raises the stakes. Am I tripping? I don't feel like they've shown us, um, rules backstory.

Like how she got into it? Yeah, like how to rules? flashbacks. They did? I don't remember. Her father was dying from cancer. Yeah.

Remember? And her father would just like absolutely loved her. And also I think she just had a kind of anxiety disorder. Yeah,

because I remember the family arguing with her like her mom and her sister. Yeah. But I don't remember exactly what got her. Yeah, I think it was the father dying and then she turned to drugs.

And then she had that anxiety disorder. Remember? like she would just panic. Oh, yeah. And then she was born on 9-11. She was born on 9-11? Wow. Oh, do you let you let you?

daughters watch? Yeah, I let my older daughter watch you for it. How old is your older's daughter? Uh, 14. But I started letting her watch it during the second season last year. Wow. Just because I mean, it's one of those things that... They're going to watch it anyway. It's Zendaya. Bresendaya was a Disney princess. You know what I'm saying? So they all grew up

on Zendaya anyway. That show with Zendaya and Kadim Harden said, I can't, I used to know the name about Hart. I can't even remember the name of it now. But she played like a detective, like some type of private eye. I can't remember what it was. But they watch her on Disney. So it's just like, you know, you don't want your child to be flipping and sees and diea.

You know what I mean? And then go watch euphoria and be shocked. So it's just like, yo, watch it. Do you talk to them about it? Yeah, watch it, have conversations with her about it. You know what I mean? She didn't even really like it like that. She was like, y'all was cool.

You know what I mean? But like this shit is that, that Wendy, that Wendy Adams show. Wednesday, Adams. Who is Wednesday? When? We tape on Tuesday. Oh, yeah, that's her name. Wednesday, Adam.

What did I say? What did I say? Bride didn't say a day? Wednesday Adams, yeah. That's their shit. Because it's a little bit younger. I've never watched it. It don't seem younger.

You don't remember the Adams family? No, I remember the Adams family, but I'm talking about the one that they watch on Netflix looks like euphoria. It takes place in high school. It seems a little bit more juvenile. I watch an episode. It's still pretty gnarly, but...

I didn't watch it. Yeah, I don't think it's as like emotionally deep as euphoria. Yeah. I'm not trying to knock the Tim Burton show, but it just feels like it's aged down a little bit. I get what you're saying. Yeah. Flute the saucy Santana. What did saucy do?

Shame and scrape men, the waste scrapment of shame, gay men forever. Oh, I like that. You know what I mean? You haven't heard this? No. Play the clip, yo. Play the clip for him, Alex and Taylor. Before I get Kevin Samuels in here, bro.

Charlemagne. Charlemagne. What? Charlemagne. Let me tell you some, them girls ain't wrong. Them girls is not wrong. If you as a man, you don't need to be smoking. in the hookah, baby gal.

You need to be brought you up a wood. You need to be smoking you some. Zah. Okay? You don't need to be sucking down on a hookah. Baby. Betty. You was a man.

Unless you were gay. Unless you gay, unless you gay boy. That's the only reason I'm, that's the only way I'm saying you smoke. If you're not no gay boy, you were a man, put the hookah down. Put the hookah down and pick you up a grabber. Not what he did. Now, yesterday, Envy posted this picture, right? This is Envy in his element, Dominican, smoking hookah.

Yeah, yeah. Saucy Santana put, Envy, not you blew the smoke out for the pick. I'm sick, bro. Here's the thing. Yeah. What is the thing, dude? And I'm just giving you all a PSA. I'm not judging nobody.

I don't smoke hookas because of the Surgeon General. You know, you can either listen to the Surgeon General or you can listen to Saucy Santana. Here's what I'm here to tell you. The hookah tips. This is a fact. You can Google it. You can look it up.

Yeah. The hookah tips are made from foreskin. Nope. They're made out of the same material that they use to make vibrators. They're made in the same factories as vibrators. Love that. So when you're putting your mouth on a hookah tip, you're sucking a vibrator. You're sucking a little vibrating.

I am fine with that. I don't have a problem with it. I love hookah. I don't have a problem with it. And now I notice, if you notice sometimes, people will put the hook in their mouth and do like this a little bit. Yeah. Because they're trying to get that vibrating feeling. So I propose that they should just make vibrating hookah tips.

The hookah tips, that's great. That's a phenomenal idea. That's it. You know what I mean? And then now everybody can just, you know, get the exact thing they want. Get the exact thing that they want. So either you're going to listen to the surgeon general or you're going to listen to Saucy Santana. But I think if you can make vibrating hookah tips, you know, it'll help people come to their decisions a lot easier.

I don't think there's anything gay about. smoking hookah? I didn't say gay. Oh, Saucy said gay. Saucy said gay. That being said, he is the professional. He knows gay shit. That's what I'm saying.

So if he's saying smoking hookah is gay, then it is. It might be something to it. You gotta at least listen. You gotta at least listen. So, uh, saucy's right. And I like doing some gay shit. Simple as that.

You know what? I love smoking hookah. This is, this, this is why people listen to brilliant idiots. Mm-hmm. For revelations like that. Why can't we enjoy some gay shit? Riley Freeman told us years ago, and I need y'all to insert this right now. Riley Freeman told us years ago, everybody's little gay.

Ain't nothing wrong with being a little gay. Ain't not wrong with being a little gay. Everybody's a little gay. There you go. You just got to admit it. Well, I didn't say it makes you gay. It just makes you enjoy some gay shit. Do you think we need another word other than gay?

Is gay too extreme? Because gay actually, I thought gay is the actual sexual act between two of the same sex. So do we need like a gay light? Like if you paint your nails or if you smoke the, You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Or if you take pictures like, you know, Michael B. Jordan and Jonathan May just did, like, is there another thing to say?

Gotcha. So not gay, but like throat monster. Or just something. No, no. Nothing sexual period. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay.

Saucy. You're just saucy. Saucy. And everybody likes a little sauce. A little sauce. Ain't nothing wrong with sauce. When the waiter goes, do you want some sauces? I like that.

I go, I would love some sauce. Saucy. Saucy's fantastic. Oh, sauce with that? Hey, listen, I like sauce. I like that. You got to say saucy. I'm saucy.

I'm saucy. I don't like saucy. I'm saucy. No saucy. Sassy, that's too much. I don't like sassy. Saucy, though. Sausy is fine.

I don't like sassy. Saucey is still playing with people's manhood is still trying to do. No, no, I'm saucy. I like, I'm saucy, bro. I'm saucy. A little saucy. Yeah. We're paying homage to the goat.

Yeah. Paying homage to the goat. A little saucy. Yeah. To the kid. To the kid. Yeah. We don't know that.

That's true. You don't know that. That's true. That is very true. You don't know that. We don't know it. But it is what it is, right? Hey, man.

You know what I'm saying? God bless it. I would think so. But saucy is fired. So then maybe them picks earlier were just saucy. A little sauce. No. I just thought they were picks.

I wouldn't put that in the sausage. Nah, bro. Nah, bro. Them picks are saucy as hell. I was referencing those picks because of what people say, but I don't think those picks were saucy. Nah, bro. I do want to normalize that type of shit.

Me too. You know what I'm saying? That's why we got the term saucy. If you want to get saucy with the boys, ain't nothing wrong with that, well. And by the way, maybe you should say that just to fuck with people. Yeah, we're being saucy. What's up?

What's up? Yeah, I was just being saucy. You know what? Because guess what? When your people are not here no more, you're going to wish you had gotten saucy with him. That's facts. You know what I'm saying?

That's facts. You're going to wish you had hugged your man from the bat. You know, put your hand on his heart. You got to put your hand on my heart when I'm a beat. You know, I'll put your hand on my heart when my beat with me. Tell me, this another goddamn topic. You want to pay some bills? Yeah, let's pay some bills, man.

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White law student. suing Howard University. Can you make that bigger for me, Alex? This white dude, what's his name? Michael Newman claims he suffered depression, anxiety, and suicidal thoughts due to public ostracism. Did I say that word right? Austricism, yeah. Vilification and humiliation. It is also being alleged that global head of diversity recruiting Reggie McGahey told Newman he was the most hated student he had seen during

his tenure at the university. The lawsuit states things reportedly took a turn after discussions about Newman's purported racial insensitivity. Students had learned about a tweet that was made from Newman's private Twitter account where he shared a photo of a slave revealing his badly scarred back with the caption, but we don't know what he did before the picture was taken. It was later explained that Newman was reportedly mocking commentators who attempted explain away videos of police brutality by claiming the victim must have committed wrongdoing before the video started.

Oh. Duh. Wow. Court documents claimed there had been trouble among the students as they communicated through online forums

and through group me chats. His removal from a class group chat occurred after other students didn't have a positive response to his questions relating to black voters after hearing from an

African American speaker and the run-up to the 2020 election. The lawsuit states, Newman apologized if anyone took offense and said his goal was to learn, not just law, but to learn the thoughts

and experiences of people of color. Ultimately, there was a panel review held following complaints about Newman and it was rude that he was about to be expelled. I'm gonna tell y'all something, man. I'm sick of us on the breakfast club, not telling the whole story. Ain't nobody on the breakfast club said,

shit, go scroll up, Alex. When Envy reported this story, he did not say anything about the guy saying, it was later explained that Newman was reportedly mocking commentators who attempt to explain away videos of police brutality by claiming the victim must have committed wrong before the video started. Duh.

That's context. I laugh. He's a white guy that's going to an all-black school. You think he hates black people? No, you don't have to hate black people to make a poor joke. Well, even if it's a joke. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that could have just been a poor joke. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like our guy, Jesus Knight's loves to say you got to hear both sides. Right. You know what I'm saying? So he might have been playing around on his, in my mind, he's playing around

on his private Twitter account. sent the photo to somebody, thought he was being funny. Right. But we didn't know what he did before the picture was taken. Right. Thought it was going to get a chuckle. The person screenshot and put him on blast. Yeah.

But you know what him saying mocking commentators who attempt to explain away videos of police brutality by claiming the victim must have committed wrongdoing before the video started. I get it. Makes perfect sense to me now. Yeah. And now he's suing up for $2 million because he's been getting called Cracker and Milk Cricket. Milk Cricket is, as you say that earlier, one of the funniest things I've heard. Milk Cricket is hilarious.

That's a great one. Milk cricket is like... Usually none of the dishes for white people hurt, but that one's got a little sting on it. Why? I don't know. It's just like Cracker is kind of funny. Honky's funny.

Like, milk cricket. That one goes. The fact we found out that dairy's just not good for us over the years. Remember, it's not good for you guys. We love dairy. It's not good for nobody. I mean, they lied us until it's good for calcium in your bones and your team only for it to break down everything else.

Yeah. Like human beings are the only creatures who drink the milk of other animals. I don't like that, argument. It's the truth. Well, we eat every other part of the animal. That's not good for you. But I'm just saying it's like,

there's no different. If I'm going to eat the cows like, uh, fucking liver, then I can drink its milk, you know. But reality is none of that's good for us. Like all of that,

all we're learning over time is that all this shit really isn't good for us. Like, you're going to get to an age where no matter what you do when you go to a doctor, the doctor's going to say, cut out red meat. Bro, but eating, eating was good for you as a privilege,

bro. I hate when people make this argument. It's like, You said eating what? Eating was good for you as a privilege. Most people got to eat was there. You can still eat like grilled chicken. You know what I mean?

Some people ain't got chickens, bro. Some people don't got fish. They ain't sloped. The chicken has always been one of the cheapest things. That's why, you know, a lot of the enslaved, even after they got out of slavery during Civil War, like one of the ways that they made money was through selling fried chicken. Easy to feed, easy to raise. They were the best cooks at it.

You know what I mean? And they made a lot of money, especially in Virginia. Like, they used to literally stay by the trains with the, fried chicken and their other big goods and when people would get out of the train, they would sell it up. Yeah. That's why I want to understand what even the stereotype of chicken being something negative towards black people, that's just wrong.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it's actually a symbol of economic freedom. Yeah. But I don't care what it is. Colon cancer. So do we owe this guy an apology? This white guy?

Also, you're going to law school. The school taught you how to sue. You sum up for $2 million. That's like on the school. Like, and if you win, it's like, well, this is a good school to practice law. I did not hear that other argument. That other argument puts it in perfect context, bro. Yeah.

He's trying to expose how ridiculous police brutality is. Now, could that be something you make up after the fact? Yeah. If you get caught, yes. Is it a damn good argument? Yes. You know what I mean? White people are good, man.

But you got to prove that's what you were indeed doing. You got to prove that's what you were indeed doing. Yeah. Because the reality is, why would you sit in that privately? I mean, don't you also want to know? What do you mean? Like, don't you want to know? Like, I mean, the picture that he's referencing is the one

from the Will Smith thing. And like it is just brutal graphic. That's not Peter Quill. That's fucking Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, Peter Quill is Star Lord. Star Lord.

What's the guy name? Like, I mean, it's just absolutely brutal and horrendous what this slave went through. So it's like, I think that there is curiosity about like what what happened for his owner to abuse him like that. It was because he was enslaved.

He thinks Peter, that's by the way. I don't know if he had an athlete. Yeah, yeah. Because he was just enslaved. Like, but like, for example, right, let's find out that he got those lashings because he. Tried to escape? Not even tried to escape. Let's say he got them because he didn't put this thing back where we're supposed to.

Like, the more information you have about this, the more exposes the disgust and brutality of slavery. Absolutely. That's what I don't think asking the question necessarily is insensitive. I think if you're asking it because the way he asked, though. Fair enough. Fair enough. That shit is funny. That's comic.

That's the shit we say when we're trying to be funny. You know that. You know that? You know, like go back to it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I'm trying to dance, bro. I'm trying to dance around. But we don't know what he did before the picture was taking.

We know that is a line we use when we're really just trying to fuck with somebody. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like that's some bullshit. You know what I get why he did that. He's being sarcastic on purpose. Yes.

If what he says is true about, you know, attempting to explain away videos of police brutality. Yeah, maybe you do that at like an HWCU. What is the HWCU? Historically white. Oh, PWI. Wait, what? PWR. They have white colleges?

This guy's so crazy. It's called PWI, bro. What is it called? What does it mean? PWI. What is that? Oh, but that's not like made for it. Yeah, it is.

Stop it. Yes, it is. You're saying I'm wasted my college experience. You could have got a PWI scholarship, bro. I could have got a PWI scholarship. You know what I'm saying? You could have got a PWI scholarship. Oh my God.

You started on the basketball team. You know what I'm saying? Killing him, bro. That would have been fired. You playing. See? Learn more about your history, bro. I really need to do that.

What else we got? Taylor gang. Yeah, we talked about Jake Paul Lide on Flagrant. Biden says I'm a white boy, but not dumb because he knows the divine nine. President, we could play the audio too. Play the audio. This poor guy. Even every time he speaks.

Play the audio. It's so embarrassing. Play the audio, yeah. By the way, you know, I'm not, I may be a white boy, but I'm not stupid. I know where the power is.

I know where the power. You think I'm joking. I learned a long time ago about the Divine Nine. He said that he may be a white boy, but he's not dumb because he knows all of the Divine Nine.

I would have to, challenged him right then and there. I would have yelled out, challenge! Challenge! What is the Divine Nun? Name them right now, Joe, go. Beyonce, Oprah, Salon, I don't know. I would

I would call it bluff. Name the Divine Nunn. What are the Divine Nunn? Sororities, sororities and fraternities. Oh, they're black sororities and fraternities? I guess. I didn't go to college. I just know the day of sororities and fraternities. I don't I don't know if they're...

Can you look that up till again? I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I know it's sororities of fraternities. So what did he say wrong? What do you mean? Like what was bad about what he said? He's pandering. That's a black history month event. He's in front of a room full of black people.

How we don't know? He would never... You don't even know. He wouldn't... I know some of them, but I know he don't know him. How do you know? How do you know? I know he don't know him.

A. A.k.a. A.k.a. Of course, everybody knows AKAa. The deltas. Zetas, Sigma, for sure. Are the guys in that, too? Capa Al-a-Zat. Capas. The Q. You got the Q. You got the Q. You know what I mean? It was two more. Who the other two?

Who the other two? Oh, betas, five beta. And the shit from the Iotus. The Iotus. The Iotus. Also the Iiot. You know what I'm saying? You really think Joe Biden can name them. I mean, you barely could. I don't think Joe Biden can name what he have for breakfast. Okay, so I don't think he's good. But the fact that he knows that Vinay,

and also he's speaking at this thing to pander. He's pandering. But he's going there to pander. God, dang. What is he supposed to go there and be like, black people, this is what's wrong with you? Yeah, no, go in there and talk about black legislation. What is, what do you want?

Go talk about black legislation. What do you want him to legislate? Talk about black equity. There's a plenty of thing. Go talk about the George Floyd Police Night. There's a million things he can be talking about in regards to black people. The George Floyd Police and act. The George Floyd Police reform.

police reform that they have not passed yet. And how would you like the police reform? How would I like the police reform? I do like the George Floyd policing act. I think one thing in there that is very important is the getting rid of qualified immunity. I think getting rid of qualified immunity would change a lot of things. You know what I mean? And that's one of the reasons they can't come to terms on it because...

Qualified immunity is... Hold on. Let me look it up because I want to be accurate about what qualified immunity is. Hold on. But basically it's holding them accountable. Hold on. Qualified immunity police definition. It protects state and local officials, including law enforcement officers from individual liability, unless the official violated a clearly established constitutional right.

So if you know that you can be held liable as an individual and that motherfucking pension or whatever could be taken away, you'll think twice. You don't think twice You know what I'm saying Get rid of qualified immunity I think that might change a lot of things You know what I mean So I think that's that's That's one thing that they should be discussing

I don't care I don't care whether or not You know the divine line and that You know what I'm saying That shit slaps though Of course it slaps Because motherfuckers love shoutouts Yeah

People love Why do you think people Why do you think people love Shoutouts so much Shoutouts are huge Yeah People want to get tagged on social media They want to get shouted out

On the radio You're on stage somewhere And somebody shot to you from that stage. Chappelle or somebody, you love that. People love that type of shit. So it's just like, eh, whatever, man. What else we got?

What? Just saying. He couldn't know the Divine Nine. I don't believe he knew who the Divine Nine was, Alex. I don't. I believe that was the talking point they gave him before he got on that stage. He said I might be a white boy? I hate that. Come on, now. That shit is...

That's pandering, too! Yeah, but I don't like that kind of pandering. I like the Divine nine pandering. It's like showing that you know a little something that people thought you didn't know. I mean, you know your audience. It's like you doing stand-up and you like, you in, uh, nuanced thing about a, a new one thing about a city or something like that. Yeah. That's true.

That's better than just being like, I'm a white boy. That's white Coonin, bro. That's white Coonin. That's white tap dancer. I don't like that. That is. You're absolutely goddamn right. Um, uh, oh, man, salute the Master P, man. Yeah, what, what was this? I saw this pop up. Well, you know, my, my, my, my good sister, Jess Lairis, who I love. I don't know if I, I love Jess O'Lari's, yo. I've loved Jess O'Larias for a long time.

She is a good person. I don't give a fuck. That's why we having Jeff Beck. What? My man almost died from sleep apnea. Oh, drags. Oh, drags? Oh, Dracks.

Just knocked out like this in this way. Come on, drag. God damn. I love Jess O'Larish, man. Jess O'Larish has been entertaining me for well over a decade on social media. And, you know, she's somebody that, you know, I've been partners with for a long time. You know, we do a lot of business together. You know what I mean?

She's got her podcast carefully reckless on the Black Effect. You know, she's got some things that she's done with us, me and Kevin Hart for Audible. But I just love Jeff. You know what I'm saying? I think she's hilarious. I think she's genius at what she does. And people don't really. realize Jess always wanted to do radio.

Like, yeah, back in the day, Jess used to do Jess used to do Just with the rest for Ricky Smiley. You know what I'm saying? Oh, wow. Yeah, she's just one of them, she's 31 now, so shit. I mean, I probably know just that she was like 20. Oh, yeah, 19, 20, 21, something like that. She's good.

That's what I'm saying. She's just somebody who figured it out on all levels from social media. You know, she takes the craft, the comedy series. She's actually on stage, which a lot of people from social media aren't, like, she's been on stage for a while. I've seen her sell out Caroline three, four years ago. So salute to Jess, but Jess gets hosted on Reference Club last week and, you know, Kilty.

Like, I knew she would. But she told this story, played it, played a play the audio. That man would talk a good game to you. Like, even with me, I got the hookup. I'm still owed some bread for that. I'm not going to lie to. He still owed to you. Yeah, I ain't going to lie.

You know what I'm saying? Did he pay her at all? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for the first thing. And then I did too. He thought because he used one scene. He didn't got paid for the second. No, I stayed there for 13 hours to do two scenes. But that's not how it works. I thought you get paid for a movie.

Don't you get paid for the whole movie? I do. My scene when it's come to a skit movie like that is, you know, you know, I got to hook up with a long skit. Here's the thing, you know, Master P replied, did, do we, do we want to play, we'll play, play with, Master P replied and said that, you know, he felt like, I don't even, put it like this. Math to P hit me last week after he heard that,

and he was not happy. And I understand, you know, why he wasn't happy. And he wanted to come on the Breakfast Club Friday, but then, you know, he decided, like, he just didn't want to give it no energy. But when I walked in to the radio station Monday morning,

he was there. Matthew P. was in the lobby. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Matthew P. was in the lobby. Wow. And he said he wanted to come up

and just, you know, educate the coach. And, you know, this is what he said. You think all of this is just some miscommunication? Yes. I really do. And for people that don't know, let's say Master P is here. Last week, Jess Hilarious was co-hosting with us,

and it was a story about Master P and Fat Trell. Fat Trell. So, you know, Jess claimed that, you know, during taping of I got the hookup to, she got a front end of a check and never received the back end, and she stated that. So what was the communication? And Master P said, you know,

miscommunications. Massimicates. Massifed. He said, I don't pay people. It's a production company. It's my movie, but it's... Yeah, but why is we talking about that? Let's be honest.

I gave you an opportunity. Why is we talking about that to bring... I'm not even... into the music business no more. I'm not in the entertainment, but that's what I'm saying. So you take that and turn it into clicks. And even when she read it, I wasn't addressing that when I said

people hide behind these computers and that wasn't about her. That's what I'm telling you all. It's all the miscommunication. What she read was not about her. So that's what I'm saying. Let's change this, man. Let's change our thoughts and our patterns and say, how can we help each other? I'm going to tell you something. The young

lady that was on here, I love I like her. Like, she's funny to me. Like, I wouldn't have put her into the movie if I didn't feel like that. So even other guy from D.C., I wouldn't have put him, his music out, he's talented. I wouldn't have put him, I could honestly admit if I think you talented, but the world got to realize that everything don't sell. When you validate something, say a person was in jail, that's how, and they've seen their music in jail because they're like, come on, but how far are we going? Like, we got to grow.

That's why I said. We more of into entertaining than educate. Well, you think the misunderstanding is coming, coming, P. Well, I think, for me, man, I'm going to be honest with you. I've been through a lot. Like I said, I lost my daughter. Condolns. And it's like, man, I ain't really got time for this.

But I wanted to come up to educate the course I'm not going to go against these people because I love them. This is what I once was. But I have that much respect to if I have a problem, I'm going to call you, try to figure it. Thoughts. Yeah, nothing was really said. like she either got paid or she didn't get paid well she said he said it was the production company

didn't pay her well she got her front end he said if she didn't get her other her back in it's on a production company not him I mean I don't know I have to look and see what his role in the movie is if you are the the executive producer of the movie it is your film right you are and you are the person that's saying hey this is my film and brought to you by me and I'm the guy I would imagine that you take responsibility

for everything under it. Now, if you sold this film to a studio and a production company and it's not really your film, it's their film, right? So then maybe they're in control of it and not you and they have to pay out all these people.

But the way I think it was marketed was this is his film, his everything. Yeah, and I mean, you don't really know, right? Like if you're... You also hire the production company if he is the executive producer. Yeah. If he sold the rights to it to somebody,

then that's different. Yeah, everything you're saying is true. You know, and if you're just hilarious, all you know is that you and P have a relationship. Because that's the thing that happens a lot of times in situations like this that doesn't happen anywhere else. You're actually talking to the person, you know, who is behind the film. And so when things don't go right, that's who you go directly to. Yeah. I think what P, first of all, man, you got to salute Master P. Matthew P is a, is a bona fide legend. Like, there's no if-ans a bunch about it. Being a black man from the South who loves,

hip-hop back in the day, I don't remember what year it was, 98, 99, maybe it was 2000, but Diddy was on the Forbes list. That was cool, you know what I mean, to see somebody from hip-hop on the Forbes list. Will Smith was on the Forbes list. That was cool. You see a black man from hip-hop on the Forbes list. That was cool, but, you know, Will Smith and Diddy at the time both made a certain kind of music that we liked, but it wasn't like, it wasn't that South shit.

When I saw Master P on the Forbes list, it felt attainable for you. Oh, Master P? Like that, like, you know, I didn't expect that. Like, you know what I mean? So it's a different type of inspiration. And like I've been knowing P. Shit, I've been interviewing P, man, since I was doing radio on Charleston, South Carolina. First time I met P, I think, was 2001 on Hot 989 when Little Romeo was a little little boy, you know?

So you got to salute Master P. That's number one. But what happened with P. Right now is he's paying the cost to be the boss. This is what happens when you're the boss, you know, because he's all, oh, sorry, he's also. Just to clarify, claiming that she was paid in full and that she was saying that there was a check that never came. But that's actually not true. That's what that's what Master P is saying here.

Yeah, he said the copy of the check was cashed and paid. I guess he tweeted, yeah, he posted it on Instagram. He said the copy of the check that was cashed and paid. But Jess is saying she was supposed to get another check. And then, you know what I mean? Master P says she was joking about the second check and that was never in her contract. That's the narrative they ran with for click fake headlines. Thank God for receipts.

I don't, yeah, I don't know. what's, I honestly don't know what's true and what's not true. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? There's three sides of every story. It could be peas. It could be justice. It could be Romeo's.

Who knows? You know what I'm saying? All I'm simply saying is when you are the boss, this is what happens. Like, you know, if there's an artist that you like and, you know, you invest into that artist, whether it's to create a mixtape like he did with, you know, fat trail and things don't work out, who's going to get pointed at? Yeah. You, you know, if it's a movie and you recruited people for the movie,

And, you know, you know, the people feel like they don't get, they didn't get paid or they didn't get a back end or whatever it was. They're going to blame you. Yeah. That's just the cost you pay, you know, to be the boss. And I can understand how it's frustrating because I think, I don't think, I know Master P has great intentions. You know what I'm saying? Like, Matthew P is not a person out here who's like just blatantly trying to get over on people. Right.

You know what I mean? He's absolutely positively trying to do the right thing. But, man, if you do business long enough, shit like this is going to happen. Yeah. You know, you just hope that it don't always have to go public, but it's impossible not to in this day. Yeah. People take their grievances and they run the social media. Well, you would hope that, like, Jess, if she had a relationship with P could just message him directly.

And if P ignored it, then the only other recourse she has outside of, like, legal. And to your point, it's like, yo, Black Effect, that's my company, you know what I'm saying? Me and my good sister, Dolly Bishop, you know, I might be more accessible than Dolly. Mm-hmm. Because I, you know, like me and people like Jess got a relationship way before any of this. Yeah. So if, if Jess got an issue, she might come right to me.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? She might, like, and I'm not, that has happened. Yep. You know? So I can see that. I can see where those, you know, lines of communication can be miscalured, man. Yeah.

I can see where the miscommunication comes. Taylor, can we do some asking idiots? Yeah. Salute the Master P.N. Jess, though, man. Can I tell you all I love Jess? Yes, you did. Okay. She killed it, huh?

On the breakfast club. I just think she's a phenomenal. I think she's just a star, bro. But like a lot of stories, I feel like came out from her week. Just body. Yeah, she really did. Just body. So the numbers have been good.

Well, breakfast club number? Yeah. What do you mean? I'm just saying, like, it seems like, I don't know. I'm just seeing a lot of like buzz from it. I don't know. No, that's funny you say that. I mean, I don't know.

Outside of your channels and all these things, I just see stories continue to pop up. I heard something this week. Like Breakfast Club, Internet shit was up. Digital footprint-wise, it recently just really hitting on a lot of different things. I'm going to be honest with you, man. We're doing the same thing that we've always been doing.

You know what I mean? Like Breakfast Club can be consumed four ways. We can be consumed on the radio every day. You too. You know, every day. Podcast. I think the number is like 4.5 million daily or weekly listening. I think it's daily weekly. I don't know. It's like 4.5 million listeners. Yeah.

You know, and then that's just the radio. And then you can consume the podcast, whether people realize it or not, the number one black podcast, and I don't like to use the word urban, but the number one black podcast is the breakfast club. But you know, it's a cheat code because we are a radio show. Yeah. And we put the podcast out as a daily podcast. So we're putting out five times a week as opposed to other people putting out one. And then, you know, you consume via social media. You consume via YouTube. I think people get... And you consume via the blogs and the clips.

That's social media. Yeah, sorry, sorry. Yeah. Social media is where it's been kind of penetrating my feed, I find. Yeah. And see, and I think that's where people get things misconstrued a lot of times because you go on YouTube and, you know, you might look at a channel and that person's channel, it might be that time where they just won with the algorithm.

And every video they put up is getting a million, you know, plus views. And then you might go to somebody else's page and be like, well, they're not getting a million views. like they used to, that don't mean shit when you're getting consumed four different ways, you know what I mean? And it's just like, I don't know, and I guess you'll see this too, or maybe all channels see this.

We've been on YouTube for, like, damn there, a decade now? Maybe, maybe eight, nine years. I think the algorithms change. Am I tripping? They do. They do. They do.

You know what I'm saying? They reward different things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there was a point, you could fart on a breakfast club video and it might get a million. You know what I mean? I think that they're rewarding long form

And now YouTube's probably trying to compete with TikTok So it's probably rewarding short form No, you're right, no you're right Because those YouTube clips was shorts Go crazy, yeah And you guys have so many clippable moments But I don't know, it's just really awesome to see And catalog.

Of course, the old stuff comes back That's right And it's just, yeah For whatever reason, us moving into the new studio Have people digging into the catalog a lot more Looking at a lot of oldest stuff And it's just like anything else You know how like you'll watch George Collin stand up

and those moments now make more sense. Now that's what's happening in a lot of breakfast club videos. People are pulling old quotes from people and things people said. You know, it makes more sense now than it did, you know, back then. So, hey, man, we're just going to keep being consistent. Yeah, I mean, it's cool to see, man. This doesn't seem like a consistency. This seems like a fucking rocket shit.

What you mean? I'm just saying lately. That's a... I'm just happy to be here, man. God is good, man. It's been great. I love breakfast clubs, my baby. It's a fun, really fun environment.

Anyhow. Let's do some asking idiots. Ooh. This is a good one. Go, what do we got? This is for you, because I don't know nothing about neither one of these shit.

Would you be, would you rather be stuck in the world of Game of Thrones or Last of Us? It really depends what I am in Game of Thrones. But even then, the stress of like just maintaining empire and yada, yada, yada.

But then the stress of like trying to find food and shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's so tricky. But James Dolan gets some. pussy in that era. Oh yeah. Yeah. A lot to choose from, right? Where? In that era. Which era? Last The Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones. But no, you pay for that shit easy. You just go to the brothels. I thought they were banging like their family members and all types of things. Also that. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's available. If you're a Targaryen. But yeah, yeah, the last of us seems exciting because you got to like take out zombies. You also got to take out bad humans.

So much stress. I mean, it's stress, but also kind of exciting. That's like real pure survival. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I feel like with Game of Thrones, I wouldn't even try to to be part of like the politics and shit. I just go find an island somewhere, some land somewhere. Get the fuck out of there. Like, I don't want to deal with these motherfuckers. Yeah. Scroll up, Taylor.

I like that. It was one I liked right there. What movie makes you cry? Woo. Oh, man. A bunch of them. Every one of them Pixar joints. Every cartoon movie I cry at.

Remember the Titans. The notebook, not really. Any like father's son relationship in a movie I cry. I cry a lot in movies. Yeah, me too, man. Ricky, when he gets shot in boys in the hood, every single fucking time. Wow.

I mean, every, I watch that shit like, man, zigzag, Ricky. Like, don't go to the store, Ricky. You know what I'm saying? Like, just stay home a little while longer until you get your acceptance letter. Like, you're just hoping things change. I'm gonna tell you what gets me every fucking time. Like, if I want to cry,

like you know how you feel like crying and you've been holding that shit in? My girl, bro. Oh, wow. Bro, when Thomas Jay gets stung by them goddamn bees and then they had a funeral, and Velma comes running down the stairs, top of these glasses,

these glasses, he can't see without, glasses. Oh my fucking God. Yeah. Oh my God. I'll tell you what those face can cry. Two Tala Perry moves. Which ones? The one where the woman is a crackhead but she buses in the church crying. Which one is that, Taylor? That's the first one. That's Diary of a Mad Black Woman? That is? That one, when she bust in the church crying and when goddamn Idris Elba says, fuck it, I'm going back to jail, these motherfuckers done put the hands on my little girls. And that motherfucker says, fuck it. And the way he's fighting

with himself because he know I'm about to go back to jail but I don't give a shit Does he? No, he doesn't because Gabrielle Union was his lawyer and Gabriel Union got him off. But man, when he rams that car

into the drug dealer's car and just beats the shit out of the drug dealer and the whole neighborhood rises up oh, tears of joy. Tears of fucking joy. I used to cry when Mufusso got killed in Lion King. Not so much anymore.

Yeah. Not so much anymore. God, I'm trying to think of other movies that I've cried out. Truthfully, Mufusso probably should have let Simba get trampled. Charlotte, you seen Coco? Oh my God, Coco.

Coco's that one. Holy shit. No, Coco's crazy. When you said Coco, the Mexican shit popped in my head. It is the Mexican shit. That's the one? That's the one by the Night of the Living Dead now? Yes.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, I've seen Coco. Oh, dude, the end of that is. That makes me cry. That makes me cry. Oh, really? I don't remember the end. You know what didn't get me, yo?

What? Up. You know, everybody goes to the beginning scene up. They get all sad and shit. I ain't get sad at that. I don't remember up. That's what spirits? No, it's with the house that goes in the air.

The dude is trying to leave. He lost his wife, whatever. Oh, I remember that one. I don't know. That shit didn't really get me. I'm trying to think of other movies. O'Cocco fucking slap me. Nah, I didn't really.

Those are the ones that made me cry. I love a good cry to movie. I love a good fucking cry. I'm waiting to cry at all you there goddess me, Margaret. Oh, I don't know about that. You don't think you're going to cry for all you there goddess me, I just, I'm not gay. Yeah, I'm not a gay guy.

Your wife is bringing you to see Judy Blum. You think? Absolutely. fucking Lutley. I know your wife was a Judy Blume fan growing up. I got a ass. Don't even ask. Be like, yo,

got us tickets for you there. God, it's me, Margaret. Open the night. Done? Done, brough. Done, brough. Done. I'm trying to tell you,

Judy Bloom. Come on now. Okay, maybe I'll check it. Thoughts on the new Ant Man movie. I didn't watch it. You didn't see it? No, I don't care about Ant Man. And I love Paul Rudd,

but I don't fuck sure. Fantastic. The way Jonathan Major was stomping out Ant Man is how he going to do you and fucking Alex. And that might be the case. Jonathan Major. Yes. So with the success you've gotten, what are you doing to avoid getting lazy, comfy?

I just keep working, man. I just keep working, keep thinking of new things I want to do. I feel like I don't have any time. I would love to be lazy. Okay. I would love to do that, but there's things that I want to do, man. And it's a grind. It's a grind to do one of the things that I'm doing.

and to have multiple, it takes a lot of time. True. It takes a lot, a lot of time. True. And so that stops me from feeling lazy and I guess ambition as well. So, yeah. I really want to get back on the road. I really want to get back and do stand up.

What you waiting on? No, I'm working on it. Okay, okay. I don't want to go out there and just like. Bullshit. Bullshit. Like, it has to be important. Don't you have to bullshit a little to build a set?

No, I build the set by bullshit in the city. Right? Got you got it. And not bullshit, but like, really going out. and like trying and working out bits and failing and doing all these things. And then once I develop enough time, then you start to like kind of mold it on the road.

But I don't want to, I don't want to like, for me, it's like people are coming out. There's been a lot of money for a show to getting a babysitter. They're getting dressed up. And it's just like,

no, I'm not going to just go, oh, let's see what happens. It got to be a show. I would really love to see you do the idea, man. Maybe, maybe we do it. I'm telling you, man. Now's the time, man.

Maybe when the special comes around. How's the time, man. Because you know what I like about stand-ups now? there's only one person I think that is absolutely doing real specials. Who's that? Neil Brennan. Yours was special,

but yours is special for different reasons. It was special because... You're saying Neil had like a theme around the special. Yours was special because of what you chose to do with infamous. Yeah. Taking it back from corporate America. Yeah. Putting it out yourself.

You've been rebelling against PC culture. Like that's what made... It made it a special. I got to go see this. Like what made it important? Number one, why did they not want to put it out? Yeah. Number two, why was it so important this show to say, fuck that, take this money back, let me get it.

Yeah. I want to see what that's, why was it, that's a special to me. Yeah. Why is it bigger than just comedy? Exactly. And Neil's done a great job of that with the three mics and now, you know, the blocks. Blocks is great. Oh my God, go check out.

Oh my God, blocks is fantastic. On Netflix, go check it out. Fantastic. That's why I like what Chris is doing. Yeah. Chris is making his special, special, yeah. By doing something different. He's trying to make a moment out of it.

And, you know, people act like, people talk that shit like, oh, man, it's too late for him to talk about Will. Bullshit. Well, it's too late until he does. Until he does. Exactly. And then it's the perfect time. Exactly.

We haven't heard him say anything about it, which was smart. I knew he was waiting to get that bag. You know what I'm saying? And he got that bag. I thought he was going to do like a special like Dave and just do like a 15-minute, you know, big hit a quitter. throw that out there and it's all about Will but now he decided to add it to a standup

which makes sense and I've seen I've seen Chris's stand up twice I've seen this special twice and I've seen him add on to it which I think is the beauty of comedians you know what I'm saying I saw it last year when they did the garden and he's just developed it and built it

that's right especially Chris I mean he's one of the greatest comedic minds ever man I enjoyed it you know I asked you a question I said I said man is it just me or does it feel like Chris isn't revered like the Carlin's and the Chappelle's, but he should be. I think that he should be. Like,

we spoke about this like I think with, I think it was like Monique. And I think it's like, I think in general people have like a what have you done for me lately vibe with whatever it is. It's especially if you're active. What is George Carlin done for people lately? He got to day. That's my point.

But he got the work. The catalog is there. Sure, sure, sure, sure. His catalog is there. And for us, he's revered. And I think the next generation needs to see things. Like, people live in the like, what's going on now moment. And we are, I'm a prisoner of the moment.

I'm the ultimate prisoner of the moment, right? Like, I watch a boxing match and one guy wins. I'm like, that guy's the truth. That guy's the best. I'm a prisoner. I watch a movie and it was, I loved it. That's the best movie I've ever seen. I'm prisoner in the moment.

And I think that, like, if you constantly give people reminders, I think Chappelle is just giving more people reminders of his greatness, right, than Chris has. Like, Chris will do a special, what? One every, one every, like, five years. But Chappelle, that's so interesting what you say, because Chappelle wasn't even known as the stand-up guy. He's the sketch guy.

He was the sketch guy. I mean, don't get me wrong, Killing Me Softly was a fantastic stand-up special. For what it's worth in Killing Me Softly, we were fantastic, but he wasn't a superstar until sketch. He wasn't bringing the pain. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

It wasn't never scared. That's the thing about Chris is like Chris made it off of stand-up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wasn't picking it blacko. Yeah, stand. I mean, bringing the pain was fucking unreal. Big and blackers phenomenal. But bringing the pain is like one of the craziest sets you'll ever see from a stand-up comedian.

And that's what's so interesting to me. It's like even that conversation we was having when people were saying that, you know, Chris Pandas, the white people. I'm like, what Chris Rock are y'all watching? To your point, that let me know this generation may not know the history of Chris Rock. I mean, you couldn't be more wrong. You couldn't be more right. He literally made bigger and blacker because he felt like he was being embraced by white people too. much.

People said to him, oh, he can't be funny to black people. Really? And he did it at the Apollo. He went bigger and blacker at the Apollo in Harlem just to show y'all how bad I am

in front of any motherfucking crowd, Joe. So, no, salute to Chris Rock. And, yeah, to us. I'm excited for the Netflix special. And it's a balsy thing to do. It's like a really, really balsy thing to do to do your special live. for so many different reasons.

It's a ball. Like, just so many different things. Not only could, like, something grow wrong, or you mess up a joke, or you mess up a tag, or whatever the fuck that is, right? And then not the best version of your set comes out.

That's number one. But also, like, you've got to trust the director knows the choreography of your jokes. Like, what if you're delivering your punchline and it's in, like, a super wide shot where they can't even see your facial expressions? They can't even see, like,

the emotion that you're trying to draw and they can't build attention. Like whoever's directing that special should be on the road, know every little bit of movement, every little bit of choreography, because especially a guy like Chris, think about how many iconic moments

in his special where he's like, and you get that nice tight shot of him, like really locked in emotionally to it. I think they have been, though, because I know. Good. When I saw him in North Charleston, they have to.

Yeah, when I saw him in North Charleston this year, he had a lot of more cameras around him. Good. And just constantly understanding his motions where he's going to be. Chris is very mobile. Like he's a comic that paces a lot, right?

So it's like, you got to be able to follow him. Like, that task is going to be really difficult for the director. Chris has been doing comedy at the highest level for 30 years or 40 years.

I'm not worried about Chris at all. What I am worried about is the director doing Chris justice. Yeah. So, you know, all credit to the director if he pulls it off. But you got a task

in front of you. I agree. It is all on the director because there is nothing Chris Rock can't do life. After watching what happened went down at the Oscars. Okay? You know what I mean?

He got, we'll put hands on him. He kept going. Yeah. You know, so much so that we thought it was fake. Yeah. Let's do one more asking idiot. Solitude our community. What's more impactful to success? Community, unique community. Yeah. We are communal creatures. We fall apart without one another. It's a punishment in jail to put somebody in a cell by themselves because we crave community. Even that that community is a bunch of people who have

murdered and, you know, like, stolen and, you know. I don't think it's either or. I think it's both. But yes, but you need community. You need community, but then you need that solitude, too, because you need to reflect. They reflect. You need that meditation. You know, you think that sick shit that you send to the community group chat,

you know what I mean? But the solitude is what makes that sick shit come. You're right. No, no. And then when I get a text from Andrew and it's like, can I ask you all something? I know. that he's sitting around somewhere in solitude and he's come up with these thoughts

that he wants to share with the community to see what our response is going to be. Right? And then after you try it in the group chat, you might try it amongst people. Yeah. And you might bring it to the pod. Yeah.

And you might even bring it to the stage on the radio, whatever it is. I just think you need a little bit of both. But yes, I do agree, community. Community, both. It's both. Solitude, all community. I think you need a little bit of both.

I don't know which one you need more, probably community. Yeah. But you definitely need... You definitely need both. Time to yourself. Yo, these have been good questions. Great questions, man. Yeah.

Great questions. Thank you for once. Idious listeners. You know what I mean? As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right.

But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the brilliant idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.