The Brilliant Idiots - The Art Of Travel

Episode Date: May 25, 2023

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I love the premise of this show. Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit. Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby. Yep, Solomon the guy. Andrew Schultz. We already have to text, Chris. We did.

It's your fault. Chris got the most fire sneaker collection for a dad ever. I mean, it's unbelievable. He just comes in with sneaky heat every single day. He's got nice dad shoes and they're comfortable. That's not even dad shoes. Chris got it. Chris got it.

That's heat, heat. That's heat. Okay. Okay. Welcome to another week of a brilliant idiotist podcast. How we feeling, guys? Feeling good. How are you?

I feel blessed black and highly favored, man. LeBron James just got swept. Who, thoughts. Let's get right to it. Yo, it's really interesting because when you watch highlights of Jokic, everything looks lucky. It does, right? Every highlight I see, I'm like, oh, that's true.

Pure luck. It does. Everything looks like that shot LeBron shot when he was trying to throw an alley-oop and it went in. Yes. Yes. So you're like, this guy can't be that good because he just keeps getting lucky and I'm just seeing highlights. But then you actually watch the game. And even though he's in slow-mo and he got the highest dribble, he just finds a way to be so fucking effective in elite.

It's unbelievable. And it shows me how much being in the right market can do for you because Yokic has been a two-time MVP and no-by-y-y-y-y-y-law. Nobody's realizing how good he is until right now, because we've been watching his games so much in prime time. Right market, right market, and we're winning a championship. With Yonis, Janus was doing that Milwaukee for so long, and we knew it. But when he made that run and won a ring, everybody's like, yo, that guy is incredible. The tricky thing about Yokic is like his game doesn't really lend itself to highlights.

Like, you've seen a big man throw a cool pass. You're like, oh, that's cool. but it doesn't need to be on SportsCenter top 10. And then you see the stat sheet and it's crazy. And you're like, whoa, this guy is really controlling the game. I wonder if he's like a, and again, I didn't get to watch enough of this. And I don't even think, Chris, you were old enough to watch. But like the way that they said Bill Russell could control a game,

but he's way more offensively savvy than Russell. But defensively and rebound of what Bill Russell could do to a game, the way he could dominate it. Is that what Joe Kitch is doing? Yeah, I mean, I think I can. I can't really think maybe Elijah Juan without the assist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a little bit more scoring.

Elijah was way more fluid. He was so athletic. Yeah, way more athletic. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Yokin's moves like one of them, like, elephant robots in Star Wars. Do you know the ones? Yeah, yeah.

I'm talking about, like, he's just slow and plotting. Yeah. But there's something about him where he's always balanced. Yeah. So he never has to, like, pick up his dribble without knowing what he's doing. and he's just like so unassuming. Yeah.

Like that's the other thing too. It's like even no matter how good he is or how many games we see him dominate, you still sleep on him when he's out there. Every single time. Right now I'm sleeping. And you know he won. And he's in shape because he looks pudgy and he looks slow. But the guy, I don't think he took him in it off last night.

Tyson's Fury of Basketball? Is he in shape? Tyson. No, Types Fury is not in shape. Tisofuia basketball? He might be Tyson Fury of Basketball. He might be. the Tyson Fury of basketball.

Tyson Fury of Basketball. You want to know something wild about this? So the president of the Nuggets, the guy who put together this team, right, is not the current president. He left to go take the job in Minnesota. Right? But he put together this team.

Jamal Murray terraces ACL, what is it like a year or two ago? Yeah. And it took him like a whole year to come back. So the new president of the team is going to get all the credit. it for doing nothing. Damn.

Like they didn't even, they didn't match Tim Connelly's contract. Right? So he, and he had the offer up in Minnesota. So he's like,

I gotta do this right for my family. I gotta go take it. The team he put together with the same coach, all the same stars, all the same trades. The whole thing,

everything that he put in place could win the championship. And then he's not going to get the credit for that BCC with another team. And he went on to make one of the worst trades of all time once he got there.

Which is? The Rudy Gobert for you. Why is that a bad trick? It's not working. It's a year. It looks bad. And they gave up like five firsts and a lot of young towns. Yeah, I didn't understand that whole seven first round picks,

or whatever the fuck it was. So what was the idea? The idea is like a super dominant big. Twin Towers, Carl Anthony Tows, Rudy Gaubert. Yeah. And yeah, that's just a really tricky thing. You could see how having a big creates crazy matchup difficulties if they're as skilled as joking.

Yeah, which is what? One in a million. That's the thing. That's the thing. If you're not as skilled as Yokes, now here's the thing. Maybe Embed might be close. But even,

I'll be honest with you, with Embedd, I think Embedb found a game too late. What you mean? They say that with smaller players, they find the game. And with bigger guys, the game finds them.

You're walking around 6'6 in fucking middle school. All of a sudden, the high school coach is walking up to you, going, have you played basketball before, or a tribe, you know, and because of that, they just don't log the same amount of hours. You look at a guy like Kyrie Irving, right, who has had 200,000 hours just dribbling a basketball. He has been in every possible situation. It is impossible to rattle Kyrie Irving outside of, like, watching YouTube videos at 2 in a morning.

There is nothing that could, like, blow his mind on a basketball court. You sent a double team to him, you send a triple team to him. He's already thinking four moves ahead. out of there. He is a absolute basketball genius, right? Because he's been playing since he's a fucking toddler. You don't think it's nothing that you can rattle Kyrie? Maybe Kyrie just ain't heard the right trash talk.

What does he have to, what do you have to say? Anti-Semite, like the whole crowd just chanting it. Oh, I think that's when he starts dropping buck to you. Yeah, really? Really. If you want to scare him, be like, the Jews are coming. It's my time now. Wow. But yeah, so it's like, I think a lot of times with the bigger players,

and I think Jokic is the exception, is the bigger players, they start to get rattled in the playoffs. Yeah. Because when you throw certain things at them, they just haven't had the hours of play against it, like a young player has. When a guy like Jokic, he plays the game like he's been playing since he's two years old. Like, that's the only thing he's done his entire life.

Yeah, and I think he started playing late, if I'm not mistaken. Jokic? I thought I read that somewhere. No, he played as a kid. He did? Two motherfuckers out there only play basketball and soccer. There's like two sports. Where's he from again?

Slovenia or whatever. Serbian? Serbian? Yeah. But still, like, that's what you do, especially if you're tall over there and you're playing basketball. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting, man. And also, too, I think what this playoffs is showing us is like that whole era of pairing

superstars, that shit was never really going to work. And you have to have a team. Miami's a great basketball team. The Nuggets are a great team. Those players have spent time together. There's a system there. Oh, you're saying chemistry over superstars. Chemistry over superstars all day.

Because we really haven't seen the super team thing work. Yes. When Miami, the Gulf State Warriors. No, why do we say that? That was done to the draft. Like, KD came into a system that was already there. Like, that was a plug-in-play system. Harrison Bond was giving people buckets before KD came.

All they did was sign KD in free agency and place them in a system. Okay, okay, okay. So Boston, the big three. Yeah, okay. There's a thing with, look here. So are you saying that it doesn't count as having a super team if there are superstars that have come up within the system? Yeah, if it's through the draft, if it's through the system.

Because Golden State Warriors was a super team. They just developed those players. Absolutely. Like, Dr. Ramon is the second round pick, like Yolkech. Yes. You know what I mean? But he, he, especially in his heyday, was a superstar. Because of that system.

I think he is a super team. No, no, I mean that sincerely. I think now it's not... Yes, he is. But I think that system helps them a lot. Of course, of course, of course. I'm not taking away from the system. I'm not taking away from the coaching.

What I'm saying is they had the arguably the two greatest shooters to ever be on the same team together. Then you add Katie to that mix. And then you have the greatest offensive player in history. Like, that is a super team. It's just, like you were saying, was developed from within for the most part. And because of that, they have this kind of innate... That team won a championship and went 70.

and nine before Katie came there. No, no, there's no doubt. We're on the same page of that. I just thought you were saying, just because you have superstars doesn't mean you're going to win. You can win with superstars as long as they're baked in the games. You got to have role players, man. Think about it. They put the heat together.

Son. They damn they gutted that team to put the heat together. Think about the heat right now. Their star two guard is injured. They're all the depot. Yep. Their star six man is injured. Tyler Harold.

Two of their most recognizable players aren't even playing and they're an eighth seed that is going to be in the championship. Great system. Great system. Great coaching.

An incredibly unique super talent in Jimmy Buck. Jimmy's different. He is an incredibly unique super talent. I saw Ryan Davis and I saw other people saying that Because Ryan never believed in the will to win thing, which I think is crazy, right?

But you can't believe in it if you've never seen it. Right. But he said watching Jimmy Butler makes him believe everything he didn't believe about Michael Jordan. Wow. The things we used to say about when we say Michael Jordan had an undeniable will to win. When Michael was on the court, it didn't matter what the score was. You knew Michael was going to find a way to win the game. That's how people are looking at Jimmy Butler.

But it's not Michael Jordan level. And when you have that will to win, it makes the ball to win. players around you play. Absolutely. Because that's what Butler's doing. What do you mean by that? That's interesting. He's playing so hard that everybody around him. They don't ball like

that, but everybody's ball. Yeah, we forget Jimmy was hurt. To begin, in the next series, even if he turned his ankle. But wait a minute, so are you saying that they're seeing his effort and they're trying to match his effort? Or are you saying that his

dominance makes them feel more confident than they can play? I think it's all of combination of both. I think it's a combination of all of that. Like, that's what Michael had. Michael had an undeniable will to. He was already better than everybody on the court. Yeah. But it was just something about his DNA that was like, I'm not losing this game. Yeah. Y'all come with me.

But his teammates were terrified of him. I don't think the heat are terrified about it. You don't think so? No. Maybe not. Yeah, you're right. It's a different energy. It feels a lot more like we. Right. Miami Heat feel like we where everybody still holds each other accountable. Like, don't be lazy. you don't fuck up, but we're in this together. And the Bulls were, it's like everybody was attached to the greatest athlete in the history of.

But it was still a weed at Arizona athletics. It was still a wee. Like the Bulls, we don't, I don't know why we talk about Michael and Pippen, but don't talk about their amazing role player that they had throughout that whole run. There's like, who coach, Rodman, Horace Brand. I think that those guys get past in, BJ Armstrong, Steve Kerr. Now you get a little crazy. But I. What?

I feel those guys get credit. Batson and Armstrong and Kerr? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They actually saved the Bulls a couple of times. Cur and Paxson definitely. No, they did their job, which was to hit open three. That's right. They didn't save the Bulls.

Michael Jordan saves them by being down 12 and then bring him with him two points for three seconds. Absolutely. You know, you know something interesting? It's a good point. Yeah. Rob Parker was on Breakfast Club. Okay.

Rob Parker was saying he can't put Steph Curry as the greatest shooter of all. time because he said if you had to pick between Ray Allen, Steph Curry, and Reggie Miller, four seconds left, who would you give the ball to hit the final shot? And he was saying Reggie and Ray have done that more. And I'm like, well, by that logic, Robert Orr he's the greatest shooter of all time. By that logic. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's not how we're judging greatest shooters. No. If we want to have a clutch conversation, we could do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Clutch conversation is a very different conversation. you're going to start to have to put different people in there.

I mean, Kobe, Braun, incredibly clutch. And what's funny is, in the beginning of his career, everybody was talking about how he was a choke artist. Turns out, statistically, there's only one person that's hit more fourth quarter go-ahead buckets in the last three minutes or whatever the way you define a clutch shot is. I think it's about when you hit him, though. I think it's cool.

Well, that's what I'm saying, within the last three minutes. I think it's about when you hit them. If it's the last three minutes of game 42 in the regular season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's playoffs and the NBA finals, it's different. That's when legends are made. Well, I think nobody's done it to the level of Reggie Miller. And maybe I felt that more because I'm a Knicks fan.

But, like, Reggie's ability to shoot the ball in clutch situations was unprecedented. Well, we hold people to moments, right? And I realized that when LeBron and the Lakers were down 3-0, and everybody was like, you know how he gets? No, we don't. He's done this one time against the Golden State Warriors. We don't know how he gets. With Reggie Miller, even though he was super clutch,

but it's that everybody thinks about that one time when he hit the three and stole the ball and hit another three with five seconds left with some shit like that. What was it, seven points and four seconds? Oh, my God. But he had a crazy one on Jordan, and it was the end of his career. He had two or three crazy ones on the Nets in the playoffs.

I mean, he was very consistent. He was that dude. He was that. Reggie was phenomenal. He was phenomenal. He was phenomenal. LeBron said he's considering retirement. You can I ask a question real quick?

Mm-hmm. I wonder if there's a height component to clutch shooting. What do you mean? It's easier to get your shot off when you're 6-11 or whatever Robert where he is. When you're 6-7 going up against like a 6-2 guard like Reggie Miller was. When you're 6-7 or 6-6 like Kobe or Jordan, like Steph, it's objectively harder for him to get his shot. Hell, yeah. And he can do it effectively during the game, but maybe in those.

clutch most because I think that's what some people are saying right now they're like oh step has missed uh he's over 12 and clutch go ahead baskets or whatever but I wonder if like these guys that we see as clutch shooters just get a much clearer shot at the end of the game by proxy of how much taller they are than the guys depending you know it's okay grail was like 6 6 no I don't see ray as a clutch shooter I he only hit that corner three let's see that He had a signature clutch shot at Yukon. Those are the two. Yeah.

I forgot about the college thing. And then the one in the corner, I'm like, yeah, you hit it, but it's the easiest shot to hit in the NBA. A corner three, you're talking about foul line extended. Like, it's not like a big, like you should hit an open clutch three. No, it's fluid how he caught it in one. Yo, all the credit in the world. But I'm not putting him up there with Reggie and Kobe because he hit that one. Reggie and Kobe were getting theirs.

Like Ray got a Yeah Rebound to him And I can't throw you up there With the goats for that I mean Jordan jumped up Ray was a phenomenal shooter though No no no no there's no question

Yeah yeah shooter but like Jordan jumped Against Cleveland jumped up in the air Waited for the white got to fall Then shot it That's fucking Buckets right You did that a bunch of times Byron Russell in the final

Those are the things we remember But that's what I mean It's about when you do it The reason Ray has that clutch you know, stigma is because of the college shot is because of Miami. Jordan had been doing that since college.

Yeah. I remember the UNC shot? Yep. Finals, that's the championship game. Like, yep. Yeah. When you get it, you get it. Yeah, I think it's like, who are you most afraid of?

Like, I'm afraid of Michael Jordan with that basketball. I'm afraid of Kobe Bryant with that basketball. I'll be honest. I got PTSD. Yo, son, bird? bro. Bird?

Bird? You are not blocking the shot. Bird kind of getting lost in the sauce, man. Yo, but that's life, bro. That's the crazy thing. Bird might be number two behind Jordan. I hate to say it. I hate it.

If you don't stop. Yo, yo. No, no, hold up. Have you guys heard the story? Have you guys heard the story, the bird story? They come out of the huddle. There's one second left or something like that. One second left down by one.

Dennis Johnson. is going to be inbounding. Play gets written up by the coach, and it's going to Danny Aange. Okay? So DJ, Dennis Johnson, is like, okay, I got to get the ball to Ains. DJ's a rookie, I think, right?

The ball's got to go to Danny Ains. It's got to go to Danny Ains. That's where it is. They break the huddle. Berg goes, okay, let's do this. Everybody breaks. As they're walking onto the floor, Bird walks up to DJ, goes,

just give me the ball. And DJ goes, what? Just get me the ball. Right? So DJ's a fucking rookie, right? He's about to defy this. his coach in a last second shot situation. It's like, what the fuck do I do?

Gets the ball inbound it, gets it a bird, bird hits the game, when a shot. Danny Ains just fucking furious. And he's like that, but that's Bert. That's bird. That dude. The Burlis and Bird is dope. I was alive for Byrd. I saw Bird.

Number two behind, Jordan. Stop. I'm going to say this. As a... Magic 8 is lunch. Didn't know what you're talking about. I mean, the Celtic beat the lake. I don't know. Magic said. Bird is the greatest of all time. Until Michael came around.

No, no, no. That was when Michael was playing. No, he did. No, no, that's a little slight to Jordan, too. No, he didn't. I don't agree. No, no, I think that's magic going. This is my number one competitor,

so I'm going to give it to the guy that I battled with. Magic beat him in college. I mean, even though they did beat the Lakers, too, in the finals, but Lakers beat them in the finals, like, what, twice? Yeah, but Magic had a much better team. Did he? Did he? Did he?

Bird had a good team. Bird had a good team. Bird? You know, that Celtics was beast. Just name the other guy. Kevin McHale. Name the other guy that happens to be on the Lakers. Kareem.

Kareem. Say that one again. Kareem. Who is arguably the greatest NBA player of all time if he wasn't such a dickhead outside of basketball. If Kareem was like a likable fun guy outside of basketball, he would probably still be marketed as the greatest. How likable do we want 11-year-old man to be, yo?

At some point, what's up, man? Why don't we do that to Kareembaugh? No, but he was never. That's the thing. Some people said he was a jerk. I like Kareem, but that's the reputation he had. Yeah. He never people. Also, his name is terrifying to white people.

There's like a lot of things going on. He was an airplane. He had a great scene in an airplane. He was in that Bruce Lee joint too. For all we know, Karim might have wanted to be fun, but nobody ever was fun with him. You know how you, what if he had a great sense of humor, they just didn't have. And nobody even wanted to fight. He's too serious.

You know what I mean? That's why you've got to try everybody with a joke. I try everybody with a joke. Yeah. And I try to go wrong. Aren't you first? Just to set the tone. Yeah.

And see what they're about. Yeah. You'll be surprised. What would say to Kareen? I'll be like, oh, man, how long you've been scared white people with that name? Just to see, break the ice, you know what I mean? And what do you think he would do?

I have no fucking idea. What do you think? Maybe he just pulls his dick out, slaps him on the top of the head with him. Big jokes always get you there. Who? Really? Oh, yeah, he's in Dave. Cream did the episode of Dave.

I'm bugging. Respect. Respect. Kareem did an episode of the day. Kareem probably been wanting to be fun all these years, and nobody's been giving them that fun. Did you hear the Kareem's story he tells about Will Chammer? No.

He goes, Will Chamber is one of the most motivating people in my life, but he was an unbelievable asshole. And the interview's like, what are you talking about? He goes, he goes, he had an unbelievable assort. He goes, I mean, one time we were in an elevator. And when he was building and a guy walks in and he sees Will Chamberlain and he's excited. He tries to say something funny to him. and he goes, hey, Will, how's the weather up there?

And Will looks at him and spits in his face. Is it Korean's face? No, you don't listen. I'm going to be honest with you. I got so distracted because I was thinking, where does Shoe get these old-ass NBA stories? No. They were still thinking about that.

Dick being slapped by the story. No, okay, I'm going to tell the story very quickly. Okay. Will Kim and Wooden on Elevator. Kareem and Wilter in the elevator. Yes. Okay? A guy walks into the elevator.

Third person's in the elevator. The guy looks up at Will Chamberlain, who's an absolute god, superstar, and goes, oh my God, Will Chamberlain. He goes, hey, how's the weather up there? Which is like a hacky joke that you say to tall people. Spin on him, his brain. And he spits on him, and he goes, it's raining.

Oh, yeah, I've heard that joke from tall people before. Probably hitting the 50s, though. What? What? What? What? So probably hitting the 50s, man. This is like doing a podcast.

If you don't make your point within 1.25 seconds, his brain is a fucking heretic. It's the pot. He's a fish. It's just like, oh, what's going on? What's going on? My phone, somebody. I thrive in quick hitch, man. Oh, I know.

I know. I know. Let's just go fast. Bung, bong, bum, bum, bong, until somebody says something so fucked up that we got to edit. We got slow it down. Is LeBron retiring?

Fuck, no, he's just using it as leverage. It is amazing to me. He likes the drama. He likes to play the game. He got to change the narrative. You know what I'm saying? If you don't get this guy on the team. Oh.

We change the narrative. So instead of y'all talking about the nugget sweeping me, you know what I'm saying? Y'all was sitting around talking about me retiring. It's almost like, you know what? I'm going to leave if y'all make fun of me. That's actually. I'm going to leave if y'all make fun.

Kill a story with a story. Kill a story with a story. That's fucking brilliant, dude. Because the slander started, like, I noticed last night, well, yeah, you can play it. Go ahead, Tim. Well, hold on, before you play it. Killing the story of a story is the only way you can do it,

and he did it fucking masterfully. That's like what Fox News did. Remember when they had an $800 million dollar loss. to Dominion and then they fired Tucker and then nobody has talked about that Dominion lawsuit since I mean because nobody really cares They would have fucking cared you know who else would have cared CNN, but they could talk shit about it because they also fired Lemon It was the perfect killer story with a story That right there was genius and this is great what he's doing We're all talking about if he's gonna get Kyrie. We're all talking about if he's even to come back is he gonna play with Bronny

The CNN killed the story with his story well they both had perfect time with that Yeah, they did Lemon, and then like next week, Trump, baby, town hall. So now nobody talking about Lemon. That's the game. You kill the story and it's, and it's, you're pulling audience, right? Because you're like, you're basically saying, look, I know what y'all thought about seeing it in the past. We're different.

We're different now. Yeah. Here goes Trump. See, I told you, we want to play nice with you Republicans. Yeah. You know? So play the clip tail. Keeping my mind sharp and things of that nature.

Being president on the floor, being president, you know, Lock room and bus rides and plane rides, things of that nature. It's challenging, it's challenging, you know, for sure. It was a very challenging season. You know, for me, you know, for our ball club, and obviously, you know, we know we went on early on or whatever case may be, but it's a pretty cool, pretty cool ride. But I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I think it was okay I don't like to say as a successful year because I don't play for anything besides winning championships at this point in my career

and I don't I don't get a kick out of making a conference appearance I've done it a lot and it's not fun to me to not be able to be able to be a part of

you know get to the finals but But we'll see what happens going forward. But I don't know. I got a lot to think about, to be honest. I have a lot to think about to be honest. And just for me personally, going forward with the game of basketball,

I got a lot to think about. Appreciate it. You know what's interesting about this? There's this narrative now from players where they're like, if they feel like they didn't win a championship, like the season was a bust or whatever. And like even in this, he says, you know, I'm not, I don't feel good about just going to the Western Conference Finals.

So if that's the case, we can't, if we're using their logic, we shouldn't talk about the whole totality of their careers anymore. We should only talk about finals appearances, right? If the Western Conference Finals don't matter and all that other stuff don't matter, Eastern Conference Finals, we should only talk about finals appearances and when they won championship. And if you use that metric, you know, LeBron drops his, he really drops itself in the rankings. Yeah. If he's just using that metric.

I think, yeah, I mean, to defend him, I think what he's saying is at this point in my career. He's like, earlier in my career, I'd be happy to even make the playoffs because I hadn't done that. But now he's saying at the end of his career, the twilight of his career, he wants to be in the finals. But he's 20 years in. He hasn't been in the fight? When the last time he went to the finals? The bubble? was that three years ago, four years ago?

He didn't even make the playoffs like one year with the Lakers. Like, you know what I mean? Like that's a, it's a weird metric. I think LeBron does get a lot of unnecessary slander, but, you know, as I say, as I said this morning on Breakfast Club, with that type of greatness

comes that type of slander, baby. You can't have it both ways. My therapist tells me that all the time. With that kind of success, that's the price of success. That's the price of success. That is literally it. If you don't have great success, you won't have a whole lot of criticism.

But with great success comes great criticism. So everybody acts like LeBron gets this overwhelming amount of slander. No, he gets the amount of slander that somebody is great as LeBron James should get. Yes. You know what I mean? Yeah, 100%. You're the guy. You've been the guy for 20 years, four championships.

I have many, I think four MVPs to go with it. Like, you've been the chosen one since you were 17, 18 years old. And I'm, I know LeBron knows this. or not it feels good or not, he knows that Slanda comes with the position 100% that he's in. And honestly, I don't even think him getting swept in the West of the Commerce finals hurts our helps his legacy. I think

LeBron's home already. No. I think beating Steph helps. If he lost this, I think that people would start to use that as an opportunity to chip away. I don't think beating stuff in the second round of the playoffs does anything for LeBron James' legacy. Beating him doesn't do anything. Losing to him did what you think so

he's already lost to him three times in the NBA final nobody thinks Steph is better than LeBron I do right nobody's think Steph is better than LeBron I think he's the second greatest basketball player of all time who Steph Curry I've said that a million times

I think Steph Curry is the second best basketball player I've ever seen Michael Jordan Steph Curry Kobe Bryant LeBron James Magic Johnson five best players I've ever witnessed on a basketball court. Five best players of emacy.

There's, listen. And I'm going to use one of Stephen A. Smith's arguments. I don't even believe you. Stephen A. Smith said, Stephen A. Smith said, he said he can't put Will Tchamble in over Bill Russell. He said, even though he feels like Wilt was better than Bill, he can't put Wilt over Bill because Bill beat him so much in the finals. So I asked that to Stephen A. Burbend him?

Well, shouldn't that same logic apply to Steph? Same exact logic. You could step beat LeBron James three times in NBA finals, guys. I thought that's what we measure greatness by. If you're the best, you should beat me. Multiple times.

You should own me. And that's going to all, that's the only narrative that's going to always hurt LeBron. Dreamon Green also beat LeBron James in the finals. Is Cremont Green better than LeBron? We don't do that with nobody else. We don't compare a role.

But if that's the case, Carrie Irvin, is Cary better than LeBron? Because Kyrie averaged 30 plus points And that comeback series Against Golden State Those last three games No, no I guess what I'm trying to say

Is that you can't just use that scenario to say that someone is better Than someone else So what's the scenario? Just ball, just basketball Yeah, just their skills of basketball Okay And their ability to win

And they have an equal ability to win Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa Go, go, go Ability to win, I beat you three times But how many rings do they both have? Four, but I beat you head up three times. So why weren't you even there in the situation for me to beat you? I beat you

three times. Why weren't you good enough for me to beat you in the finals? There's many years where Steph and his cohorts were not good enough for LeBron to beat him in the finals. Where the fuck were you? What are you talking about? Did LeBron only beat Steph in the finals to win his four ranks? No, did LeBron

only beat Steph? No. He beat who he beat? He beat. He beat The Spurs and the Maver. Not the Mavericks. He beat. I think they got one back on the halves, right? Oh, the heat. LeBron got his four rings. He beat the heat with the legers. And then Spurs with the heat once.

Yeah. And somebody else. The heat My point is that there are years where Steph's team wasn't even good enough to play against LeBron. The bronze played 20 years. Steph played 14. But now you're making different arguments. I guess what I'm saying is once the Golden State War is, you all think they built that team to the draft.

You're only punishing LeBron for his losses against Steph in the finals. You're not punishing Steph for not being able to bring his team to the finals. That makes zero sense, and I'll tell you why. The Western Conference was so tough, and we're acting like they didn't build the Golden State Warriors through the draft over some years.

But once they built, once that nucleus of Draymond, Clay, and Steph figured it out, they've been there. It's the finals like six times over the last, what, eight years? So it's finals appearances? Yes. Well, then LeBron wins. Oh, you're arguing.

Wow. You just had more finals. The Eastern Conference sucked. But forget all the finals appearances. When we played head up, I beat you three times. This is, I don't understand how this is a debate. Like, I beat you three times in the finals.

I will always be able to have that OBB. Yeah, because you're the better team. So what? What does it matter? I mean, was Isaiah Thomas better than Michael Jordan? There's times. Was Isaiah Thomas better than Michael Jordan because of how many times the Detroit Pistons beat the Bulls?

Once the Bulls figured it out, business couldn't fucking do nothing with it. Or once the business got old. Once they lost Rodman. Like, there's a lot of other arguments. And there's times the Bulls weren't the best team in the finals. I think people forget that. I think we look back at history and we say,

the Phoenix Sun's team when Charles Barkley won the MVP that year with Kevin Johnson, Dan Marley, Danny Ains, Richard Dumas, Cedric's about that team won like 64 games that year. What do you mean? Nobody was worried about the Phoenix Sun. Yo, you're crazy. That year, I thought... I used to play with them in NBA Jam.

Jay was phenomenal. Richard Dumas had like the best year of his career averaging 21 points in the game and nobody was like, who the fuck is Richard Dumas? I thought the Phoenix Suns was going to beat the Chicago Bulls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fun to think that because we all want the underdog to win, but it's never going to fucking happen at any time.

Four, two, Barclay won the MVP that year. They was smoking. Carl Malone won MVP's during Jordan's reign. It was stupid, but he won it. That was a petite voting for the same person. That Utah's a year. great team. That Utah Jazz team was a phenomenal team.

Like, phenomenal. Like, you got, number one, you got John Stockton, the all-time assistant leader. You got Carl Malone the third most, has scored the third most points in the NBA history. That was a phenomenal team. Like, I was just arguing with somebody about this the other day. I'm like, why do we act like Michael Jordan

didn't play all-world elite teams? The Lakers. I'm not saying he did. The trailblaze with Clyde Drexley and Terry. What? With Clyde Drexler, Terry. Porter and all of them. That shit was phenomenal. Even the Seat. The Sonics team

won 60 plus games that year with Gary Peyton and Sean Kemp. Sure, but they weren't the Bulls weren't the underdogs. I don't know what they were against the Suns. I'm not sure about that year. I can't factor. I don't know. I really don't know. All I'm simply saying is Michael

beat all of those guys and those were elite teams. And some of those teams might, other than Michael Jordan, might have had better role players. And he still beat them. You know, with no excuses, six and no NBA finals. So you're saying that LeBron can only say he's better than Steph if he beat him all those times in the final.

I'm not saying that. I think with eyeball test, yes, LeBron James is probably a more all-around player than Steph Curry. I just feel like for what I like in a basketball player, Steph Curry has those killer traits like a Kobe Bryant, a Michael Jordan, like this will to win that is just phenomenal. And he proved it. He won a championship.

without KD, KD comes, he wins two. He comes back and wins another one. That says a lot about a person. And he hasn't moved. You know what I'm saying? He stayed there at Golden State that whole time. Yeah, but that's easier. Is it?

Way harder to move to a different city, build a new team, have a new coach, new organization, knew everything that is to stay within the same organization and build. So why didn't LeBron take the easy way and stay in Cleveland? Well, I think the easy way would have been to stay in Miami. Not Cleveland. He went to the finals, mad times in Cleveland. It seems like you're not giving

Golden State any credit for the luck that they've experienced. So what is it for LeBron? I mean, it's lucky that they drafted two guys that ended up working out. I mean, like, Steph's whole career could be nothing, right? Like, the guy was rolling his ankles every time he ran up the floor.

He got with a good doctor, got with a good physical, whatever the fuck that is, and then rebuilt the lower parts of his body to have more strength, et cetera. LeBron James spends a million dollars a year on the body. What are we talking about? Like all of these guys do that. Like, you should get the best coaches

and the best trainers and doctors. I'm just saying that it seems like you're not giving them credit for any luck. I don't know if I believe in luck in basketball. I believe it's a skill set and you build a system. Like, if somebody shows me on paper, a LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Steph Curry, let's just say they're all in the same team. You know you got something there.

What is your argument that just, Steph is better than LeBron. That's the argument. I just got stuff with my number two greatest player of all time. Okay. That's fine.

I don't know. It's nothing to do it. And I think when it's all said and done, when they're sitting around old talking shit to each other, yeah. Steph is always going to be able to say,

I beat you three times in the final, bro. Yeah, I mean, like, we played in the final four times. I beat you three. By your argument, Eli Manning is a better quarterback than Tom Brady.

You are right. Only difference. One fundamental difference with that. Yeah. I went there nine times. times, Eli. Yeah, you bust my ass twice, but I went nine and won seven. LeBron went to the finals, how many times? Ten and got as many a step.

But still, no. He went there, 10. He went 10 and got as many rings of stuff. By your argument, when they played head to head, I agree with you. Eli Manning is a better quarterback than Tom Brady. By your argument. Okay. So you, that, so Eli Manning, so quarterback's in the NFL, according to you, go,

Eli Manning, then Tom Brady? No, no, no, no, no. You said by my logic, for a game, for two games. And when it counted, Eli busted his ass. Eli can always talk that shit. By the way, Eli's the only person who really can't. Maybe the guy in Philly, but not like Eli. But according to your logic, number one, is Eli man.

No, but that don't make any sense because Tom Brady got seven rings. Steph and LeBron have the same amount of rings. Yes, if LeBron went to the finals ten times and lost three to Steph, but he still had seven rings. Yeah. But he lost three times the Steph. He been to the finals 10 times and got the same amount of rings of Steph and I beat you three. Come on, man. I can talk some shit if I'm Steph Curry. I'm not saying you can't talk. I can talk to big shit.

But there's no way that he's better. I just got him number two. That's fine. You think Kobe's better? Then LeBron? Yeah. Because that's the one that really I don't understand how people have lost over. I can understand the Steph debate all day long. I just do that to argue.

But the Kobe Bryant is hard for me to say LeBron's better than Kobe. Kobe Bryant. I don't see it. That's a tricky one, man. But nobody even mentions Kobe! Kobe don't even get mentioned. He don't even get mentioned. LeBron never had a player alongside him as dominant in Shaq.

Man, Shaq left and Kobe won two more. Stop doing that to Kobe. Paul Gasol might be better than anyone LeBron's head beside him. That's a good point, too. Get the fuck. Come on, guys. Who's better than LeBron's players? Kyrie, maybe.

What are we talking about? That's a question. Anthony Davis? I'll take Paul Gasol. Anthony Davis. No. I mean, okay. A healthy Anthony Davis. I'm taking a healthy Anthony Davis.

There is no such thing. Jesus Christ. They don't know that. They didn't know that going into it. Okay. Anyway. So you don't think LeBron's retiring. All right.

Damn. How the fuck we always start off like the goddamn all the small podcast? What the fuck is going on, man? All right. Let's do an ad. Also, can I put a button on this LeBron thing real quick, though?

Because people think I hate LeBron. I do not hate LeBron. The only thing I say about LeBron is he's not the greatest NBA player of all time. That's Michael Jordan. We can debate two on down after that. That's it. I got LeBron in my top five. I think the slander that he gets is justified only because of how great he is.

You know when slander is not justified, when you just shitting on. a person that is not even remotely on the level that the slander warrants. You know what I'm saying? For LeBron James to be who he is, I expect him to get the type of slander he gets. I expect him to get all the memes. I expect everybody to talk shit to him. I expect people to call him washed up. I expect people to say it's over for him.

Even though for 20 years, all he's done is be consistently great. You know what I'm saying? He's been consistently great for 20 years. Those are the kind of careers I like, people. I like longevity and consistency. Those little flash in the pan shit that come and go. Not for me. I like playing forever.

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What does you mean? A lot of these tall women man They're out here overlooking the short kings For no reason You know what I mean And I can't stand short women who have the nerve to ask. I don't want a tall man. You know what I'm saying?

What if I'm 6, 7, I'm looking at your short ass. Why would I breathe with you? Yeah. What if I want NBA players? What if I want little LeBron's? Yeah. How am I get them with you? And you five, three.

So do you think that there should be some segregation with height when it comes to dating? Um, that's a good question. I just think women, especially tall women, should stop being so picky about height. because I think that short man could be their blessing. And I think short women should just shut the fuck up. Yo, don't you think it looks a little weird, though, when the girl's way taller than the dude? No.

I look at that man. I look at that man, and I salute that thing. I salute that guy. He's got a big dick. He's funny. He's intelligent. You know what I'm saying? Probably from Monk's Corner.

You know what I mean? You know what I mean? That's what I think when I see that image. Wait, your girl's not taller than you? I don't know. I was just talking. So was that like a getting a tall girl, was that a prize? No, it was, I'd never even thought about it until I'm like, damn, you all like 6-1

in heels. You know, you all 5-11 with no shoes on. I never even thought about it. Would you ever like put their sneakers on by accident? Would there any be like a situation like that? Then he'd have room. No. I mean, those are tall women who used to wear heels a lot.

Carl, you know Riley went tall. Here come a short woman. Short women. Listen, I don't want a 6-7 guy. Oh. Oh, okay. Oh, thank God. So reasonable.

Six, seven? It's not, exactly. It sounds crazy. That's what height. What height? Mine is 510 to 6-2. Are you willing to date somebody your height? I don't know.

That's fucked up. But you know, but, listen. It's not. Exactly. I'm fooled that. That's short hate, yo. But listen. Self-shod hate.

You have to understand, especially for tall women, they want someone to feel, they want to feel secure. They are secure. They are secure. They're six-four walking around. They want to be pumping into ship, breaking furniture. Say what? This is nothing against men. You know most NFL running back?

Hold on like 5-7. You wouldn't feel protected around Mike Tyson? How tall is Mike Tyson? 5-10? They say 5-10. Meet him in person. He's shorter. Yeah.

Meet him in person. They say five kids. But that's different. I'm telling you. But you're talking about a guilt, Charlotte, nothing against you. You're short. Are you frightening? First of all.

No, bro, bro, bro. I'm just asking a question. My height no fight. But you're not. That's what I'm saying. My height don't fight. My height don't fight. But that's what.

I'm, I beat up 26 foot tall people. Okay. Talk your shit. Oh, Tokyo shit. It's a true. In my life, I've won a lot of fights. I'm usually shorter than everybody. Okay.

Well, again, you're just trying to say, Mike. That shit hurt him, yo. I just want to let you know what you said to him. He hurt him, y'all. I'm just saying. Did you hear what he just said? I'm just saying, when you're trying to compare Mike million dollars.

You're talking. You're talking. You're Uncle Tom of short people, yo. I'm not even talking. You are Uncle Tom. You are straight. You're a straight sell out of short people, y'all. Why?

Because you five-two discriminating against other short individuals. Thank you for lifting my height because I've actually five-ones. Five-one? How are you going to be five-one short-shaming? Well, listen. That's crazy. Taylor, you should get a check. Wait, let me ask you a question.

Coming from a tall person. And you see me and a guy at my height, you're like, oh, they're cute. Like, you're not going to think of it as no threat or nothing. Why would I want you to be a threat? I don't want It's not about a threat. Why would I want to look at

who look? That's how you know she from Philly. Couple's got to look like threats. Yeah, yeah. If they don't look like a threat, they're not in love.

You got to, I need two dogs. I'm just saying. No, if I see like you and another guy maybe around your height together, I'll probably ask you

if your parents are around, like I'll be like, are you guys lost? But I'm just saying, no, but bro, I might do that. That's jokes, though. I don't want to look like,

to Duval in Times Square one time, yo. I promise you, man, this was years had to be like 11, 12 years ago. We was walking in Times Square. And this two walks up, Dubal goes, hey, man, you know what, you know what Toys and Rusty out? You know the kids stuff like that? Man, I laugh so fucking hard. This was like 12 years.

This was so long ago, yo. We're just walking around Times Square trying to figure life out. His dude was like, I mean, you know, toys and Russi out? You know the kids to start out, man. Bro. But also. Yo! Look!

Short guys, especially in New York, they have anger issues too. So that's awesome. How tall are you, Alex? 5'10. You are wild. You just fucking came in here short shaming. Then just straight up told us that all show people got anger issues.

Like, where do you got this from? New Yorkers, I get, New Yorkers have anger issues. You go let out get away with 510 right now. You go to let him get away. You go in sneakers. He already has a little nails. And a good sneaker. What are they called?

Kanzonis. Kanzonis. Kanzonis is some Kanzunis. Show people got anger issues in New York. Everybody has anger issues in New York. I don't say in New York then. The hot record in New York right now is, I'm from New York.

What the fuck? I'm the black telling the nigga. Good morning. Look like you got some fucking manners, man is, man. That's a hit right there. That's a hit, right? I mean, it's a good record. I don't know if it's a hit.

It's a good record. I mean, she got to follow up. You know what I'm saying? It's a buzz record. It's a buzz record that gets you a buzz. Who is this? Scarletts. Scarlips.

Scarlips. Yeah, it's a record that gets you a buzz. You know, you got to follow up with something. Yo, when you shorts were fighting like that, bro, that was crazy. You're short. Yo, like, why would you add an S to everything? It sounds crazy. It does, right?

Everything, you add an F to it, it sounds like bigotry. No matter what it is. You talls. Yeah, talls, bro. You facts. We're not really worried about shit. You fat's always coming in Whole Foods for no reason. Fats. You know what I'm saying?

You could buy the whole food here? I'm here for the whole food. Shout out to fats, bro. You know, food to all of, for real. Should fats only be able to date each other? No, that's different. No, it's not different. It is different.

How is it different? You're talking about a body type versus a height. Hight is body type. Yeah, but we're talking about a type, like thick versus skinny. Tall versus short. Yeah, but a height that matters more. Because to me, I don't care if a guy is 5-11 or whatever, but he's a little thick him.

I'm cool with that. There's a 6 to 420 pound person out there right now who's saying I would rather be 5, 6, and 160 pounds. No, he's not. Yes, absolutely goddamn mention. This person probably dealing with all type of health issues. I'm sure he's not saying. And the doctor probably telling him to lose weight and it's probably tough for him.

And he's like, I would much rather be 5-6-160. I'm sure he's not saying your height. He would trade that fat for that height in a heart. Damn. You and envy take a shot at Ross this week. Damn. Damn. I don't really know what that means.

But. Listen, shouts to Ross. Shouts to Rick Ross. Salute the Envy. No, salute to envy, bro. Can we, can we have a piece? I don't like these guys beefing, man. I don't like it.

especially when it starts getting about everything except for the car shows. You know what I'm saying? If you keep it at the car shows and you make jokes about each other's car shows, whose car show is flyer, whose car show gets the most people, all as great.

But it's getting too serious? Everything else has been too much. And listen, man, you can never tell nobody how to react. I say that all the time. You cannot tell people how to react. That's why sometimes you got to leave people alone because you might push a person. That person might pull out a gun and shoot you.

Whoa. You know what I'm saying? And in our mind, we're like, you, that's an overreaction. And it probably is. But who are we to tell that human they overreacted? Yeah. You know, leave people to fuck alone.

So my first question when I saw you, I was like, is that shit real? Because I thought it was just... Yeah, I thought everybody was moving around. And you know what Uncle Charlotte's about to say. What's Uncle Charlotte I'm about to say? That's the problem with your fucking generation. Do you think everything's a joke? You think everything's a joke?

Nobody knows when something is real anymore. Wow. You know what I mean? And we do this all the time. But it's only because also social media is the biggest playground ever. Yeah. So if you see somebody make a joke, social media can egg shit on so much that that person who got joked on may not even feel like it's a joke anymore.

They may feel like they feel embarrassed. That's all. That's all. That's right. But you don't think egging it on by the breakfast club making clips of these beefs going back and forth, eggs it on. that's why I thought it was a joke, the fact that you guys are promoted. Well, I didn't post it.

I posted last Friday because I thought Friday was pretty inbound. But, you know, when you start mentioning families and kids and all that, you know what I mean, like, it gets, yeah, Rick Ross trending. It gets crazy. That's when it's, that's when it's all a bit too much, you know what I'm saying? Even when you're talking about health issues, you know what I mean? You talk about health issues. It's like, uh-uh.

But once again, you can't tell them how to react. So then how do we get them to reconcile? What can we do? I mean, I want NV&Ross to have a conversation. You know what I mean? Because, listen, first of all, let's not act like all of us aren't cool. Like, I've known Ross for damn there 20 years.

I know him for damn there 20 years. NV. Probably knowing them for just as long. Like, you know, it is. Like, when Ross was going through his whole thing with 50 back in the day, and, like, a lot of New York DJs stopped playing Ross shit, Envy didn't. Oh, wow.

Envy was still showing Ross love, you know what I mean? mean. So it's just like they know each other. That's why it's like it's strange when things get to this level. It's like personal. Yeah, but pick up the phone. Yeah. You know what I mean? Have a phone call. Have a conversation. Let's get everything back in bounds. So why don't we get, why don't we get Ross in the breakfast club, man? I mean, if he wants, Ross always got an open invitation to the breakfast club. Maybe we can get them to reconcile. But I would rather them talk first, though. Joint car show. I wouldn't That's what I thought about. I said that on the air a million times.

But by the way, let's be clear. Both of their car shows are super successful. I'll pull my car up. Envy takes all kind of cars. Envi does four shows a year. He takes any type of car. Nobody got car as nice as mine. What you got?

Come on, son. What you got? What you got? Come on, son. And Ross does his car show every year once a year in Atlanta. You know what I mean? So it's like their car shows are both successful, super successful. I just, if they were just, if they were just,

talking about cars, everything would be cool. When you start talking about all that, everything else. Family and health is where you can't have. Family help, all that shit. Leave, you know, it's like, okay, all right, all right, time out. Jimmy Butler, you know what I need? Time out. Everybody relax.

Stop. Because then it becomes something else. And it's not even just about Ross and envy. Now it's about defending your loved one. Defending your loved one. People that with Ross, people that would envy. You know what I mean? And it gets stupid.

It's just like, all right, everybody cool out. And by the way, I've seen. terrible outcomes come from a lesser situation. It's always these lesser situations like this that snowball into the bigger thing. Into some other dumb shit. And then everybody's sitting around saying, because of a car show?

Yeah. Because of a fucking car show. What's a car show? I've been trying to think about what this is. I thought the same shit. Like, there's a showcase of cars. So you got to pay $500 to go look at cars? I don't think they $500.

Wasn't that the big? argument from Envy. He was like, your tickets are too expensive. But like, I don't understand. So I, it's not my cars. I don't know the cars. But I pay $500 so I can like look at them closely. Look at them. Yeah, yeah. And then do you meet the people that the cars are owned by? No, I don't think the artists are there. I think it's like, I haven't been the one. I don't think I might have been to a car show hosting one before. But I'm pretty sure at least at NV's, he sections them off. So it'll be like little babies section of cars or 50 cents car, like stuff like that. I mean, I'm not a car guy. There's plenty of car enthusiasts out there that like that type of shit.

Oh, so you're going to get, you're going to see famous people's cars. Yeah, or just cars in general, not just famous people, but cars in general. But I'm not a car enthusiast. So, you know, stuff like car shows don't intrigue me, but there's a million car enthusiasts out there, man. I just want to see everybody. I just want to see cooler heads prevail. I'm not mad at, you know, how anybody reacted. I just want it. to stop now. Everybody's going a little too. A little too far. What's your dream car? I'm really not a car person. And you know what? I'm glad. It's so funny you said that to me

because I say this to myself all the time and I tell my wife this. It's easy to say I'm not a car person when you can't afford probably the car you want. But you can and you still don't want. When you can afford any car you wanted to and don't want it, you're really not a car person. I'm not into that type of shit. I'm not into a lot of, I'm not in the, I'm not in the, I thank God I don't have vices for depreciating assets. I do not have vices for depreciating assets. I don't give a fuck about your designer clothes. I don't care about your cars.

I like a nice watch. You know what I'm saying? I like a nice watch. But other than that, I don't have those type of vices. Yeah. I like experiences. Bro, experiences over things, man. Man.

That is the ethos. Man. There's not too many experiences I've forgotten about. Like I'm talking about like when we take lab as vacation. I even just experiences when it's just like, yo, we might be kicking it at the house or something. Think about what people say at your funeral.

Would they be like, whoa, he had this car and this pair of sneakers and this, whatever. No, they're going to talk about the experiences that you guys have shared. That's right.

Those are the things that are, you cannot put a numerical value. Let me tell you something. It's better to actually have than to look like you have and all of these fucking idiots out here who come. compare who try to gauge what somebody has based off what they wear, that's how you know they

don't have much. That's how you know they don't have much. It's the same thing you see like people coming out of Russia or people coming out of China, right? They love the name brand on the clothing. Like Louis Vuitton and like some of these other big designers, Gucci, will make specific products for China and Russia that have the logo huge because they're coming from places of communism where everybody was on the same level. Oh. So you want when you have money to prove to everybody, nah, we're not one of those. I'm a richer. I'm better. I got it. Whereas old money places like in America, the old money people,

they wear like raggedy shit because their money isn't popping to them. Everybody got money where they're from. Who gives a, if you own 500 acres of lane, you own 500 properties. You're not trying to flex with their Gucci shirt. You know what I mean? Now I will say this. You're dressing like Paul Newman, dude. That is America, but I'll tell you this.

You go to some place like Cannes, you're going to see it. Well, yeah, because you've got the broke motherfuckers there. Like, no, that's, I'm talking about like Monaco, Cans and like Monaco. Monaco? Monaco? Oh, my God. That's so like, so a couple things. Like, in old money, Monaco, no.

But Monaco is basically like a way for all the Europeans to save their money in taxes. So if you make a lot of money in Europe, you move to Monaco, so you don't have to spend that, like, crazy socialist tax rate. But in Cannes, Cannes is all like the Russian. and this canons, you got a lot of like these big money Ukrainians. And they come in there. They come from a place of poverty. So they want to prove to all the people around them.

They're not poor like everyone else. So they want to show the logo. They show it. You go to Cairns, you go to Monaco. You're going to see every car. You can imagine every fly-ass Louis Gucci pride, all of that shit. That's what everybody does when they first get money. The first generation with wealth needs to prove that they're not poor like everyone else in their family.

You see it in America. we do it all the time. Like, you see it with a rapper that grows up with nothing. Immediately, it's like, I need to show you my chain. I need to show you my cars. I need to show you all the fucking things.

The people that come from generational wealth are trying to hide the fact that they have money because they understand the problems that money brings. You know, fucking Warren Buffett's wearing the same outfit for the last 75 years. Bill Gates, same outfit the last 75 years. They're like, I don't want you guys to come rob me.

Leave me alone. Word up. So it's your point. When you actually have it, you don't need to flaunt it. When you don't have it, you want to lie to people and act like you. And when you have it,

haven't had it. I've been fired four times and had to go collect unemployment checks. You know what I'm saying? That shit don't feel good. Yeah. So when you get money... And your Gucci flip flops. There's nothing worse than... I had Gucci flip flops? No, I'm saying. Like, you're fronting like you got money

going to the unemployment line. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So me, I like to get money and just say, what's the rush to spend it? No rush. And what are you spending it on? No rush. You know what I mean? I like making investments. I like buying property. You know what I'm saying? knew more about that kind of stuff, to be honest. But, like, for me, it's all just about freedom.

It's like, what does this money allow me to do? Yeah, you just got to get the right financial team. Like, even with that shit, you know, with Ross, like renting out your house, Ross might have made a million dollars doing that. Yeah. I don't know how long the production was. Great, great move. You can make so much money, especially if you're not even in your home.

Like, it's fantastic. I rented out a property that I owned in Monk's Corner to, to righteous Jim Stones, right? The show on HBO. And it was, it's, it's, it's cool money for a day. You know what I mean? I think they only rented it for like a day or two, but it's, it's cool money. If you just own a property and you're like, oh, well, yeah, y'all want to use it for whatever. It's cool money to have. My parents did it back in the day. It's probably changed, but back in the day, they rented it out. They were filming a movie downstairs in our apartment building. Really? They needed a place where they could do the makeup and all the things.

So they asked they could rent our parents' place. They rented it out for $10,000 for the day. And we didn't even have to be out of it. Like, we slept in our beds. We did, we got, there was no, because they weren't filming in it. So that was a $10,000. And this is when I was a kid playing like Little League Baseball. So, yeah, it's fantastic money, especially if you're not going to use it.

Right now, would you guys rent out your actual place you live if you're not there? No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it on a record. But I also don't have a 54,000 square foot house. But I actually. But no, no, no. Yes. I wouldn't do it as like an Airbnb, like when I'm away on the weekends or something like that.

But if a movie production came in and they were like, hey, can we rent your place out for $10,000 a day for 10,000 days and we'll put you up in a hotel or something like that? Why not? Like, it's just like, what if you had a hundred thousand dollars to sleep in a hotel right next door? Like, what do I have in my place? That's so important. What if you had a 54,000 square foot house and you was just, it was just a wing of it that they wanted? Even, even better. That's what I'm saying.

This is a no brain. Like, saying. People are going to be sleeping in your bed. Are you trying to ask if Eddie Murphy really nutted in this? I mean, I'm just saying. That's the pushback. Poor Eddie, man. Eddie just called a screen off this with no reason.

If somebody's going to be sleeping in my bed. Yeah, that kind of changes. So here's the thing. You could tell the production. You need to bring a new mattress. I don't want you to sleep in my house. Why would they be sleeping in your bed? It's not a hotel.

My point is, my point is when it comes to a movie production or commercial, there's so much money for them to throw at situations and problems. They would be totally happy to get a Casper fucking mattress, bring that shit and put it in there, have yours kept somewhere else. They would bring a new bed in if you wanted. Like, it's so easy to get these companies that have endless amounts of money to just do whatever they want for the shoot.

Because what's rare is the location. What did you say? It was 54,000 square feet. on these crazy grounds. That's the thing they can't buy. That's the thing they can't be made. They're shooting in Atlanta. They have to replicate a palace.

Yeah. If that ain't a palace, I don't know what the fuck you call it. It is. Yeah. And we got that to him. He'll rent his cars out to, you know, certain productions.

Yeah, video productions, movie, shit like that. 100%. That's the only reason having those assets matter. Like, I even had a homeboy back in the day. He's Italian dude. He had a, like a blue, it was a blue Lamborghini,

Rocky drove and like, I think it was the Rocky movie with Antonio Tarver. I think it was that. Oh, okay. That blue Lamborghini that he drove out with my guy. Oh, wow. OG Italian dude. That's cool.

I think that was tens of thousands of dollars to rent for the movie. It's like, why wouldn't you do it? To the vintage cars, you could definitely do it. And that can offset some of the costs. Yes, man. Having them and fix them. But yeah, for me, I don't know, money is all about freedom. It's like the freedom to create the way that I want to create

and do the projects that I want to do and also explore the world. And, you know, have these great times with my friends. And, yeah. And yeah, and when you have conversations, it's never conversations about money for me. It's conversation is about opportunity. Like, what can this money allow us to build? Yeah. What can this money allow us to do?

Yeah. Like, having money, just for the sake of having money, like, not even though I get, sometimes if I get something crazy, the only person I really show is my mom, you know what I mean? But if, I guess the thing is like when you're not buying things to impress other people, nothing you get as crazy because it matches the passionately. have for it. So it's like if you truly love watches, like, and you're into that, that's something that makes you happy. It's not like it's unjustified. You work really hard and you should have a nice

thing. I like watches. I do like watches. You know, I like, I like going on vacation with my wife. Same. I don't have a lot of time that we get to just spend, like, without anybody and like going somewhere and seeing a fucking sick hotel that like somebody, in the way that I love stand-up comedy. They spent their whole life on design and they spent their whole life curating the perfect like vacation experience for a guest. Like they've dedicated their life to that. And like seeing, seeing that to me, it's like really fucking impressive and cool. And I love that time. I love like being a judge. Like who are me and my wife to come to this beautiful, fantastic place? Like, oh, the food is okay. Like, you know, like, you spend your money you paying to be a judge. A hundred percent

100% we are. But it's like, it is also fun to go in those situations. And it's the most fun to go in there with her and like be blown away by something and then share that experience. Like to look at one another and then you look at a view of like the Malfi Coast is one of the most beautiful coastlines on the planet Earth. We only have a limited amount of coastline on planet Earth.

And you're looking at it. You're the person you love and you're like, I cannot believe. I'm here. I'm here. And I'm in a postcard. That to me is so much more valuable than I don't know. That's why you like White Lotus then.

I thought, I thought it was... Still rich people problems, but it's immaculate. It's beautiful. The setting is beautiful. And there's high-stakes drama, which is murder. I like the fact that, like, there's people that potentially are going to die. Like, I love Big Little Lies for that reason that HBO show. Is it Big Little Lies?

Right. Yeah, white people probably. My stupid ass started to look that up and see where is that. Visual porn and also, like, brilliant storytelling. That's why you like White Lotus. I'm not having to have been to White Lotus. I need a passport to go there. No, the White Lotus thing is really cool.

I don't know. So for those experiences, like going to Burning Man, like Burning Man was really fucking expensive, but like the moments that you're there with your friends, you're seeing the fucking sunrise, you know, if you're smiling and happy and loving on one another. You said the realest shit because a couple weeks ago, my good sister, Dolly Bishop's birthday,

we flew down to where she lived at in North Carolina. And it literally was just like 15 of us at her. at her house for the weekend sitting around the pool doing plant-based medicines drinking, talking and that's it for me. That's it.

That's all I need. I need my people and those experiences and to the other point I remember going to places like Anguilla which y'all know is my favorite place on the planet

going there and touring different places and I'm like, man, how much is this? Such and such a night. Shit! Who stayed here? Oh, dude.

You know, Justin Bieber or LeBron, like, fuck. But then now it's like, oh, man. I could experience that. I've been doing that for the last five years. You know what I'm saying? Like, stuff's like that. But now it's the other thing. Seeing, when you used to see like big groups on vacation.

Oh, dude, I love. Like families. Yeah. I used to be like, that'd be so cool to bring your family on vacation. To be able to do that. Yeah. Your mom, your nieces. Yeah.

Your sister, your friend. Like everybody can, oh, that shit. There's nothing better, yo. Yeah. There's nothing better. That is what money is for. But I'm that type person. I'm the type person.

Like I always say, if it only benefits me, it's not big enough. What are we doing that everybody can share in this experience? How am I shaping my kids? My little niece is with mentality with that type of shit. You know what I mean? That's what I care about.

No, it's beautiful. And that does benefit you ultimately. And, like, you know, there's a reason why, like, doing things for others makes you feel good that. Like, you know, God only puts reward systems in our head for the things that we're supposed to do. We are smart enough to find, like, chemicals and pharmaceuticals and shit that we can manipulate our brain to get those good feelings. But that ain't have it naturally. You know what

mean? Like, naturally helping your friend makes you feel good. I don't know. There's some good natural plant-based medications about this. Maybe we shouldn't not do them. The weed? What I'm saying? Oh, ayahuasca. Also, sugar's not natural. The weed is natural. And the old weed that was natural, not the ones that we put the fucking chemicals in barely gets you high compared to this weed right now. Shit is so stupid. Like you could smoke that and be regular,

normal, like function fine. That new shit is crazy. It's crazy. I miss those days. And even the sugar, like if you think about natural sugars, like if you're just eating in orange, first of all,

that shit is hard, though. You got to peel that motherfucker, like it takes time. If you have an orange juice, that's 20 oranges already peeled squeeze into a cup. You're not supposed to drink that.

But to that point, hold on, to that point. Yeah. If you walk in somewhere and you see an orange tree and you see a nice ripe orange off that tree and pull it off, there's nothing better. I'm saying that's right. You're supposed to have that many oranges.

Is this one of the time we're saying the same thing again? Yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. We right. We right. Yeah, we right. But yeah, that's the, I don't know.

I think, yeah, I think it will, I think that it's built in. A lot of this stuff is built in. And as human beings, what we're going to do is try to get the most out of every situation. And sometimes that's to our death. detriment. Yes. You know, so it's like, we're on our phone scrolling and it tricks us into like feeling good, but it's not right. It's not real. But then you're sitting on the beach and Anguilla and you're watching a sunset and you're like, why am I so happy? And it's like, well, yeah, because that's what we're supposed to do. Sit on the beach and watch a beautiful sunset.

Taking a dip in the ocean. That's it. Like waking up in the morning and you see that shit, you're like, you know what the way? It don't have to be in Gwla. I'm just talking about beach and water. There it is. You know what I mean? Like anywhere in the world. Like, Come on, man. There's certain things money can buy. But I think the cool thing is getting to the point in life where, listen, I'm sure there's everybody that's listening to right now or watching right now that doesn't have money is going, well, let me prove you how much money can buy.

Wait till I get some money. I'm going to buy me. And it's like, it's cool to get to the point where you have money and now you know the things that you want to buy with that are these experiences. They're not actual things. That's what I would tell anybody out there listening. Spend your money on experiences. Forget how much you have.

All of us act your wage, right? But just spending the money on experiences. I just told you I had a ball in North Carolina. I'm from South Carolina, so it's home. Rent a Vespa with your wife and drive around fucking Rome and have the time of your life and stop and eat pizza at a random place and just have the best fucking day and stop at the Trevi fountain and just then look at the Spanish step. Like, just have a day where you're exploring.

And that will cost you way less than some, I don't know, what is a crazy luxury that we buy that is completely unnecessary. It'll cost you way less than a watch. It's an unnecessary. It will cost you way less than a watch, but it'll provide so much more joy. And it's time you'll never forget. Fast facts. You know what I mean? And it's all about community to it's about people.

I'm literally sitting here thinking like, damn. Technically, a watch is time you will never forget to. I don't even know that you knew what you just did I don't even know if you knew what you just did that was cold I meant to do that

I don't even remember what the fuck I said you go I go I go take the best for whatever and he goes and that's time you'll never forget and I go I was like that's better than a watch and he goes and you go

and that's time you never forget but technically a watch is the time and you'll never forget it as long as you have I don't know what you said but I know like if I push like some music behind it, you know what I mean with that voice?

That shit will hit and I put you in black and white. What device can you wear and you'll never forget the time? What device can you? A condom. Oh my God. What? He's not trying to make a joke. He's being serious.

Hold on. Hold on. He's like, where's the joke? I'm going to tell you why this is crazy. I'm going to tell you why this is crazy. Put the camera on me. These are the times where I wish that the window in the studio was real

so I could throw Charlemagne out. No long. You know what I found out today? I found out through Dionne Cole, salute to Dionne Cole. Dionne Cole showed us this video where kids don't even know how to tell time on clocks like that,

on actual clocks. Like, these are teenagers because they're so used to everything being digital. Right? And I go, yo, that makes a whole lot of sense because I've heard so many of these rapses. talk about how they don't even set their watches. They don't give a fuck.

It's about to look. I'll be honest, I don't set that shit. I said it every once in a while. Let me see. It's probably off right now. What time is it? See what I'm saying? So everything's digital.

So they would look like they say shit like it's 9, 736. What? Exactly. They don't know how to tell time on clocks, like round clocks. I don't know how to tell time on a sundial. Huh? Exactly. That was the clock before the clock.

Oh, I get what you saying. Yeah, you just use the technology that is in front of you. Oh, I didn't even know this is Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel's a kid's head tell time of him? What? Oh, yeah, that is it. That's because they're used to digital, though. Why?

I'm going to fit it from all angles. I'm getting it from all angles. I'm getting it from all angles. I'm like, am I saying it in the same room? Brilliant idiots. Y'all know what I go through. Y'all know what I go through every single week. Okay?

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Love Ocean. Oh, sick. All right, fire. This is one of my first time to format that one. So we'll be down there. That's like at the pre-sale is on right now. Andrew is the password for that. We also added some shows in Raleigh, North Carolina,

adds some shows in West Niac, New York. And we still got a bunch more. The Andrewsouls.com. But we'll continue to add dates. I'm very excited. Thank you so much. All the people that came out for V-Con, that was insane. And Gary, Indiana, that was awesome, man.

So it's awesome to be back on the road. I love it more than anything in the world. So it's great to be back at it. DeAndreaucom. I love OSHA Casino. I told you, speaking of experiences, Atlantic City is a place that I go. For the gymnastics, right?

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What the fuck, yo? I don't know. Just watch the Breakfast Club on BET. Make sure you go get Finding Tamika. Make sure you go get summer 85 on Audible. We have a very special audible announcement coming soon because we have a release coming very, very, very, very, very soon.

And I am so, so excited about this one. I'm taking this one very personal when this one drops. Really? Can we tell us? a little bit? I don't want to say, but just know it's coming really, really soon. Like in the next couple of weeks, we'll be making the announcement, and I'm taking this one to take it a very, very personal one to me. Very personal. Why?

Because of who it is, what I know the person's been through, you know, seeing, seeing, seeing, seeing the struggle, seeing how, you know, listen, it's hard for ideas to come to fruition. You know that, Shultz. You know what I'm saying? When you have a creative vision and you have a project and you know, you've been fighting, fighting, fighting, to get it heard or seen in some way, shape, or form.

You know what I mean? That's why I just tell people all the time, just be patient. Just be patient, you know, eventually the right situation, the right opportunity will come along. And I just think this is the beginning of so many amazing things for, you know, this individual. And I think it starts with this project, you know.

What else we got, Taylor Gang? Would you ever want a $200 million house, yo? I guess it would depend on the house, to be honest with you. Jayze and Beyonce bought a $200 million house in California. Yeah. In Malibu. They're saying they paid all cash for it, too. Listen, they acted in their wage.

That's Jayzie and Beyonce. Okay? They got it. But is there ever a reason, I guess, is what I'm saying, to have a $200 million house. Also, the cash thing is like a... that's not exactly like a real thing. Well, you can pay cash for your down payment.

But they are saying they paid the whole thing cash. You have to pay cash for your down payment. But, I mean, it could. I mean, it could be a tax. I mean, you do stuff like that for taxes sometimes. You know what I mean? You got to spend the money. Yeah.

Yeah. I think that what most people in this circumstance do, and I didn't know this until recently, this was even an option. And this is how, like, people with high net worth can really have a huge advantage. in these types of circumstances is you can pay, you can take a loan out on your assets,

use that loan, that line of credit as cash, buy the property and then refinance it into a mortgage. So you get all your money back. So you pay off that loan and now you have a mortgage, right? So that's how a lot of rich people pay all cash for things without actually

taking their money out of the stock market or taking their money out of the investments where it's already in. I never understood it. When I would see these people in New York buying their homes all cash, I'm like, who has all this fucking money to just buy cash? But it's lines of credit against their assets. And that's how you don't take all your money out of Google

or Apple or whatever, you know, stocks you have your money. What are that first paragraph, Taylor? Smart. Smart, really? No, that's smart. 30,000 square foot compound along the Pacific Ocean in Malibu. Yeah, Malibu is just the most expensive stretch of land on the planet. You know, I'm not even going to say why would you buy a $200 million house?

Because I can see, I mean, first of all, it's Jay-Z and Beyonce, so they got the money. But I can easily see Jay-Z saying, if you walked around this house, you would understand why it's worth $200 million. My assumption is that their business manager, their advisors are telling them, and Jay-Z is obviously incredible. incredibly competent when it comes to like businesses. Of course. But they're doing the numbers on the place like this and they're going, hey, this home and this property is going to be worth $250 million within the next 10 years. But they already got the $88 million.

That's what I think, I'll be honest with you, from what I've heard is a lot of people don't feel comfortable in L.A. And I've heard that's removed from L.A. It's Malibu, but it's not L.A. You're by the water. I'm sure it's gated to even get to it. They have this home in Bel Air, but. anybody can go to Belair.

Yeah. Anybody could drive right up to the fence, jump over that shit. Like, there ain't that much private property. Yeah, bro, you jump over that shit. You're going to get shot. What do you think the insurance is on an ocean front property given climate change and, you know, like the-

I wonder if you can even get insurance. That's what I'm saying. Like the insurance, unless it's up on a cliff, which a lot of stuff in Malbu's on the shore, I think. I mean, that's it right there. I think that's it right do. Yeah, so this, I think, looks relatively well protected. But, you can't protect against the,

ocean you need insurance man we need to shut our broke asses up man act all ways i think what happens when like you have this kind of money is that you don't like you and i are having this conversation right now because we think about monthlies we're going like how much am i spending a month oh shit the taxes of this the maintenance is this the fees of this my what is it a h0 house of something h oa is this when you're worth billions of dollars like that is a drop in the bucket like You don't even care about the little fucking $15,000 spending an insurance. Not even billions.

Billion. Not even a billion. Hundreds of millions. Not even hundreds of millions. Whatever Charlotte got. Only thing you care about is everybody being trustworthy and crossing the T's and dot in the eyes. But to that point, like, you know, you'll see certain things and you might not even, you know, you might not even look at it.

You know what I'm saying? There's a limited amount of beachfront property located around Los Angeles, California that has this level of luxury and privacy. Yeah. This is, if you look at, if you look at Malibu homes, they're actually like lunch boxes. They usually stack right up next to each other. If you're having an argument with your fucking brother, your neighbors next door here in the argument, that stretch, like I'd be surprised if that's actually in Malibu.

I wonder if that's actually further up the beach. But it doesn't matter. But that stretch right there is so unbelievably rare, especially for that area of Los Angeles. And you're within like an hour, 45 minute drive from like downtown Los Angeles, like for real business shit. This is to me, I mean, like it's just so rare. When you're looking at buying treasure, you're looking for rarity, right? I'm not mad at it. This is a piece of treasure.

That's not even real. I'm not mad at it. It's like buying your Antigua. They got that private beach right here. Anguiluil and then have all their friends and family come. No, it's beautiful. I mean, I bet you there's not two other pieces of real estate in Malibu that look like that. No, it's beautiful.

There might not be one of them. Probably not. It's the most expensive. I'm sorry, not even look like it in terms of how the house is designed, but like actual physical property in Malibu. Because if you look at typical Malibu homes, like look at the one Kanye owned. It's all fucking railroad. It's like Fire Island. Literally.

Perfect example. Yeah. So. God bless, man. Yeah. You know, you'd be looking at something like that and think that's so. out of your realm of possibility and this room might not be.

But you got to think about what these people buy. They're not buying a home and thinking that money is going out of the drain. They're buying something. That's an asset. That's an asset.

Absolutely. So when our broke asses are looking at a purchase like that, they're like, God damn, 200 down the drain because the most of the shit. Oh, I never thought that.

I don't know, but I'm saying the average person is looking at a purchase, they go, wow, that's $200 million that are gone. I just want to know what the house does. He has an underground house. Taylor?

Why? Ain't nobody buying $200 million underground. Doesn't they have a secret underground at all? Of course it is underground, but that's not why it's worth $200 million. I'm not saying that. He just asked what he has it. And I'm telling him has an underground under it.

That's all I'm saying. Okay. Fuck. So we're now, guys. It's real it in. Really? I'm going to keep my phone. Very funny.

The funny shit is they can't hear tail. But they think we tripping. They ain't looking at it. I'm like, what the fuck? Why do you think it's worth it? Tell the people. Why do you think it's worth it? I don't say this is why it's worth $200.

All the thing is, I'm sure they have a secret underground. That's all I'm saying. So if you were going to buy the apartment or the home and they were like, this is $200 million. I want to see what the secret highways are. Yeah. That's where you find the value. Why not just buy a secret hideaway? Why not just build an underground bunker, Taylor, instead of spending $20 million house.

I'm sure that one has it already. That's what I'm saying. I think if it did it would have told us in the, uh. You know what? It does. A secret. It does. They should tell it.

It goes right into the ocean, too. So, like, they can, like, go down into the underground thing and walk out into the water. They can go out into the water like a half a million feet from what I was heard. So if, like, something ever happens, the carters will be tucked away under the Pacific Ocean. Look, and that's what I expect from it. So it is what it is. Okay. Let me be great.

Go ahead. You mean let you be great? You did by the house? No, because I know. Let me be great. Taylor, we love you. What a fucking idiot. Verified Twitter accounts share fake.

This is crazy. Verified Twitter accounts share a fake image of explosion near Pentagon causing confusion of fake image purporting to show an explosion near the Pentagon was shared by multiple verified Twitter accounts on Monday, causing confusion and leading to a brief dip in the stock market, local officials later confirmed no sense incident had occurred, but y'all want fucking AI. Why? Why? Y'all think y'all can handle AI. Why? Why? Y'all think y'all can handle fucking AI. Y'all can't handle fake tweets and fake photographs. That's only the beginning of what's to come, people. Well, what's the end of what's to come? Civilization. Something bad going to happen.

This is the, this is the, we've been waiting on the Orson Wells War to World type shit to happen. This is going to be it guaranteed. It's going to be a catastrophic event that's not even fucking real that everybody's going to lose their fucking minds for. Government officials aren't going to know what to do. I don't know if it's going to be, hey, we just heard this world leader say they got a nuclear bomb headed towards us right now. You got 25 minutes. How long it takes nuclear weapons to get here, Chris? 25 minutes, 30 minutes?

25, 30 minutes to fucking react. What do you do? Got to verify it's real for it. If you're a world leader, do you have to sit around me like, how do we know it's real? Verify it's real. Who we get on the phone, whatever,

before you fucking press the button back? Yeah, you have to do that, yeah. Do you have time? When you don't have time? You have to do it. What if you aren't even on speaking terms with the country already? You still have to do it.

That's what they get paid the big bucks for, dude? Do they? They don't get paid big bucks at all. They don't? Elected officials? Well, they find ways to get their money. I don't know, man. I just know that this shit is going to be fucked up.

This is the beginning of so much fucked up shit. A dip in the stock market happens. This bullshit is affecting the world in real ways, and we've seen nothing yet. So here's where... Go, go, go, go. You think it's going to lead to the end of humanity? Well, I don't...

think that. The people who have created this shit think that. No, but you just said it. Yeah, I've been saying this before I heard Elon that's common sense because I know humans can't handle this shit. We talked about something earlier and we didn't say mutually assured destruction but it's just like how humans can't help their selves. Humans, we cannot help

but touch a hot stove. How confidently do you believe that? Willing to put another wager on that one? Alex, what does it matter? You fucking idiot. My God. I'm just saying. That was very Taylor-like Alex. I'm not going to lie.

I'm just saying. What does it matter? I'm going to bet you that the end of the world happens. Right before the world. Yeah, you got to. Yeah, you got to do that. You still got to cash it. This is what I would say.

This is where AI becomes tricky. Ready? Mm-hmm. There are current, okay. When AI is also relying on AI. In other words. there are stock portfolios that are managed by

mathematical computations that are seeing fluctuations in the market and then making knee-jerk trades without human beings justifying or allowing or acknowledging those trades. They're just making those trades in real time. And I heard you've been doing a good job too. Of course, they're doing great, right?

They're out-competing humans or else we've heard. That's what I've heard, yeah. But if those things are reacting, to fake AI news without being able to verify it, now you have AI that can be manipulated reacting or AI reacting to AI. So because there's no human to interface here and be like, is this a real story? Should we trade based on this?

Those trades will just go straight through. When they do go straight through, you'll see these dips and fluctuations in the market, and that can be used to make money. For example, you could short a stock, release a fake story on AI. Now all of a sudden, stock drops. You make your sale or you, whatever it is,

sell your short, and then you can make tons of money. I mean, this is almost like a bond. You could short an airline, create a fake airline disaster where three planes from a certain airline all manage to crash together. The stock will tank in 10 minutes. Sell you're short and you're out of it. And you're good.

Now, of course. They were doing that with, they was doing that with fucking GameStop and all that shit on Reddit. Remember when they was doing that type of shit on what was that shit called the bump stocks, I think it was called? But that was more of a reaction to hedge funds trying to

squeeze out GameStop. But I thought they were reporting like fucked up stories and something they were doing on Reddit that was manipulating the stocks. And making the stocks to drop crazy. Well, the opposite. It was building up the stock. Oh, it was building up the stock. Okay, okay. And they were doing that to punish these hedge funds

that were trying to short the stock. to a position where the stock and the company itself would fail. So think of like the hedge fund as like the billion dollar corporation and think of Wall Street bets as like the union that's part of that corporation. The only equal and opposite reaction to a single billionaire who has all this power is tens of thousands of workers that can decide to not wear. So they fucked over those hedge funds that were trying to fuck over the company. It was a really beautiful thing that happened.

Yeah. And so you don't think they'll develop AI that will be able to detect when there's AI generated news. I think they will. And I think in this interim period, it's going to be, it's going to be. How much disasters have to happen before that? And he's right. So basically he's like, what we're gambling on right now is hopefully not a big enough disaster will happen before AI can calculate if the news story is fake and based on AI. Yeah.

And that's the fingers crossed. They don't know, too. Ian, bro, I love you. It's over, though. Master investor? Oh, don't do it. Yeah, come on, son. Come on, son.

Yeah. Yeah. Stop. Stop. Stop. It's over. Why? I'm going to enjoy these good old days.

Why? You ain't shit. Tell them not to invest in AI. No, for real. Ian, I'm, you know, tell them not to invest in AI because AI is trying to take people like you out. Okay? What do I need Ian for? human intuition.

What? No, not speaking about Ian because Ian's a very smart, intuitive brother. That's actually why Ian is Ian. Most humans don't have that anymore, Shokes. But what I'm saying is you could make the argument that his value would increase in a time where... He's very rare, though. That's good. You want rarity.

That's a $200 million home in Malibu. Most people that they have that will be monitoring this shit are going to have to call 20 other people to figure out if this shit. shit is fucked up. 100%. You know what I'm saying? 100%. And that's, I don't think everybody's built for this, man. I just don't think we're, I don't think the average human, I don't even think somebody above average humans are built for AI. I really don't. I really don't. Now when you have the Elon Musk of the world and the other

dude that, you know, created chat GPT telling us this shit is above us now, yeah. Like, I really think it's just a great opportunity where we're going to have a bunch of, new millionaires and billionaires just like COVID. Because people are going to figure out ways to utilize AI to get rich. How to build generate? I mean, because if the AI takes up, this is another thing I was thinking about.

And I think we talked about this, but if AI gets rid of all a job, let's say AI replaces 300 million jobs. What it was how America is going to get money, universal basic income? No, I think that the other jobs will pop up. Like what? A.I. replacing everything from McDonald's workers to financial advisors, the paralegal. I mean, this is not the first time in

industry has been been wiped out. I mean, not like this. This is different. I know, I know, but people used to get around on horseback. Now they get around in cars. Like, the people that worked on those horses, their kids had to transfer to other positions. Maybe they had to work on cars. You know, like, there's definitely different things that people can do that are going to be, you know, in cahoots with AI. I hear everything y'all saying, but this is different. Like, this is, like, and I actually, the reason I've done anything good besides make, like, Biggie Singh.

That shit was fired. Yeah, like. first A-I song I heard that was fire. It was cool. The minnie-men shit with Biggie doing the hook and Tupac rapping minniemen. The most fire one. That shit was fine. Frank Sinatra. Fire! That one was crazy.

Fell off a little bit when it got to the skeet-skete-skeet motherfucker. That line was great. But the beginning part? Oh, skeet, skeet, goddamn. I like the beginning, man, when he was like, um, how that sounds like how little John get logo on? He's like, let a sweat drifts down my balls. That shit was five.

There we go. That's the best that AI has provided us so far. Yep. Well, shall we do some asking idiots? Yeah, that's what they do. They rock us to sleep with entertainment. Are we busy stinging Frank Sinatra? The sweat drips down my balls.

The world is going to shit. There you go. Give them bread and circus. That's a great opportunity for anybody paying attention. For what? How, though? How, though? So, all right, let's say.

It's wiping out 300 million jobs, allegedly. So let's say, my industry, for example, I have a studio. We make... You're done. Wait, look. We don't need you, Alex. So you can't...

The AI doesn't just know what to do. Someone still has to tell. You're not thinking... This shit is... Now it doesn't... Give it a minute. Al, you're not going to get this out. Yeah.

No. No, but you do realize when the guy stepped down from Google, you know the reason he stepped down, right? Wasn't just the war on people. You know what the reason was. What? You know, it was a danger.

the potential danger that I can come with it. He said this shit is evolving at such a rapid pace. Yeah. They're not going to need you, Alex. I get that. By the end of the year, we're not going know what AI could potentially do. I get that, but people still have to figure it out. People still have to figure out how to use it. So like right now, I'm utilizing it to make my business more efficient. So like now I'm telling people that I have that they cut clips and stuff like that. I'm like, hey, you need to get on this, utilize how to make your job more efficient, and now you can cut more clips and make more money than we are more productive. What about when the AI stops listening to you and does what it wants to do?

I see, but now you're doing all this. No, that's what the guy, that's what the CEO with Chat GPT is saying. That's what the dude who stepped out from Google is saying. That's what Elon Musk is saying. That's why they're saying pump the brakes on this shit. I'm sure there's. And that's what you just said with the stock thing. How do we know that all those people,

that are saying that are just trying to give themselves time to develop their own AI. How do we not know? This is what Elon's doing. Elon is working on his own AI. There's, yeah, there's other things that other companies are working on their AI and what they want is everybody to slow

the fuck down because Open AI is so far ahead of everybody. Google tried to drop theirs and kind of flopped. There are some issues. I think Microsoft tried to drop theirs. It flopped. There are some issues. So they're all like, we need to put the clamps. on this AI thing because they don't have

their version of it just yet. Yeah, y'all can say what y'all want. I love the optimism, but I'm with Ice Cube. I'm suing anybody who motherfucking manipulates as you should. Ask an idiot. Because when that Andrew Shult, stand-up special comes out.

As long as I'm getting paid. And it's AI shows. As long as I'm getting paid. You know what I'm saying? You're going to feel differently. What do we got? Asking idiots. Asking idiots.

Uh, I lot you all. This is for Charlotte. Being from the South, have you ever heard of the airwax test before you get some? Listen, young man or a young woman, stop playing with me. Okay? I'm the one that told y'all about the motherfucking airwax test. All right?

I know you might be 20, so, you know, you knew here. So you was 10 when we was outside, outside. Okay, you was 10, but you're probably a new brilliant idiotic listener. I appreciate you. but I'm the one who bought the airwax test mainstream. What, Taylor? Give Taylor to Mike. No, Taylor.

What did you say? What did you say? What do you say, Taylor? You're putting your finger in the girl's ear? Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly how it happens, too. I thought you're trying to seduce her that way.

You have weird ways. Next question. Seducing a girl is digging in her. Chris Robinson 34. Philly is a wild playing boy. With the success. Taylor, with the success that he's had at Marvel, do you all think James Gunn will make DC cool again,

Charlotte? Is that my guy, Chris? Is that Chris Chris? No. Is that Chris who used to work at Marvel? I don't know if that's Chris he's Chris if that is. That's my guy. Well, he makes DC cool again. Yeah, if the movies are good. Like, I mean, listen, everything goes in cycles, right? Like Marvel had a decade-long run of Dominance. You know what I mean? Some people are questioning Marvel right now. So if DC comes out and they start somewhere,

maybe the Flash is the new start. If they start with the Flash, we might be looking at the Flash 10 years from now the way we looked at Iron Man 10, 11 years ago. You know what I'm saying? You never know. Like, it's just literally about the product. You know, nothing is historically whack.

You know, DC is not whack by any means. It's just that the DC movie universe has not been good. The DC comics are cool. They're decent. You know what I mean? I mean, some people will say more than cool. The DC cartoons are fire. I like the DC movies that are about the bad guys.

The Harley Quinn and the Joker and shit like that. So, yeah, I mean, DC can be cool. It's just all about the product at the end of the day. I don't have anything like I'm not against DC. It's just the shit hasn't been good. Yeah, once it's good. What is it? Victories heal all wounds.

Yeah. What's your retirement look like for y'all and around what milestone question mark? That's from HOH underscore S.E. What does retirement look like for you? I mean, I was always told retirement. It's not an age. It's an income. I don't believe that.

I used to think that when I heard it because it sounds good, but that's not true. Because if that was the case, there'd be plenty of billionaires who would have hung it up already. You know what I'm saying? I think as long as you love what it is, you do. do and you have a drive to do what it is you do. My purpose is different though. Like my drive is I literally like putting people in position. That's what I like.

I like being the exec. That's what I like. I don't know what everybody else trying to do. Maybe everybody else trying to stick in front of the cameras in the microphone for a long time. I like seeing that next person do what it is they do. I like being responsible for stuff like that. You know what I mean?

That's what I like. And so for me, if retirement, retirement probably would look like just doing that, like sitting around getting my Clarence Avon on, you know? I think that's good. Yeah, I think for me, if it's like actual retirement retirement, like there's going to be a point in my life where, like right now I'm really happy when I'm working constantly

and I have a lot of things to do and my mind is focused on these goals that I'm trying to achieve. And I would really like a part of my life to be dedicated towards finding joy in the opposite in doing nothing and enjoying a beautiful day and not feeling like I have to accomplish things to feel good about myself, like to just be able to fully kind of let go and relax and enjoy the things I have around me, you know, my family, my friends, you know, children, all the things. So that would be it. That is a goal at a certain point in my life.

And obviously I want to get the financial security first so I can do that. But that is definitely a moment. Let me ask you this. We can end on this because I was thinking about this, right? You're a stand-up comedian. I'm a media personality, you know, or whatever, right? And it's like you still would probably want to do stand-up if you felt like there were things that nobody else was saying. if you were looking at the field

and you're like, there's nobody else saying this thing. Like even if you went and found other people and poured into them, they still not saying this thing. I think that's what probably would keep you going.

Because I know for me as a radio personality, it's like I look around the field and it's like, damn, man, I feel like everybody doing what I was doing 10 years ago. So it's like, whack now. And then you look and you're like,

did I? look like that? Did I sound like that? You know what I mean? So it's like when you see everybody doing the same shit, it's like, all right, so let's figure out what's next. I agree with you. You know what I mean? Yeah, like being at the forefront is really important. You know, I see it obviously with you and, you know, with me as well.

It's like, how can we be doing something that nobody else is doing? And part of being at the forefront is understanding that there are going to be other people that are influenced by you. And that's beautiful. You want to share the things that you kind of create with other people. and you hope that they have success with them, but at the same time, what makes you a trailblazer is by wanting to do something different than everybody else.

So you just got to keep on doing different things, and that's the cool, fun motivation. How can you take it to the next level? Yeah, because, you know, I pay attention to everything. I pay it, even if I may not acknowledge everything, but I pay attention to a lot of things, and I constantly hear people reference Breakfast Club or reference brilliant idiots as, you know,

their template to a lot of things. And, you know, I'd be like, yeah, But, you know, you're doing like our old shit. And you're really not doing it to the highest level because there's a difference in talking about people. It's a difference between talking about people and talking to people. I think that's something people forget, right? Yeah.

You can go pull up interviews and conversations with me talking to people and telling them those things I would say, when they weren't around. Yeah, it's easy to talk about. It's easy to set up a podcast in your basement or at your friend's house or whatever and talk about people. But the real conversations and real understanding happens

when you talk to people. But I've always said I'm a curious person, right? That's why even with the shock jock label, cool. But I'm a curious person. You know what I'm saying? So being that I'm a curious person, a lot of things that I say come through curiosity. Y'all want to know why this person is like that or why did they do this or what made them say this, blah, blah, blah.

So it might come with jokes and whatever else, but when I'm talking to that person, I'm going to say it to him. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I think that's why people would never really have a problem coming to have those conversations with me because they realize this dude ain't just slandering, performing, whatever, whatever. The people I have done that to haven't had conversations with me. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? Think about that.

That's on that. The people I've actually, when I went out in performative mode and I'm just saying shit. to say shit, those people haven't had conversation with me. But the curious ones, I'm actually expressing curiosity, those people have come and sat down. So I would just say, I just feel like it's the difference between, you know,

talking about people and talking to them. Everybody's talking about people now. That shit ain't impressive. I would say this, though, is that I think creatively, especially when you're in your, like, adolescence, you need a North Star.

You need someone that you look up to and something you admire. And I'm sure you had some that you're like, oh, I love how they're doing it. It doesn't mean that you have to do it exactly like that. Yeah. But like their authenticity is what inspires your creativity and makes you want to be authentic. So we have to accept it.

Like, we are that for people. We might be that for them and podcasts and you might be that for them in media. I might be that for them in stand-up. And that's awesome. And that's an honor. You know, and they hopefully will continue to curate things and then find their own lane. But in the beginning, you just need to know that there's someone who's who,

who looks at the world kind of like you do, even though they're way better than you, and then just following that, because it gives you some comfort. I remember seeing Patrice O'Neill and then being like, holy shit, like, there it is. Like, there's the best version of stand-up,

and it just gave me hope that I wasn't crazy. Like, I had an idea of stand-up I wanted to do, despite if doing poorly some nights or good in other nights, but then seeing it at the highest level, I was like, okay, this is good. This is it. This, it can be done. on, et cetera.

That's so interesting, man, because the difference between, like, you said you saw that in Patrice, but imagine if you would have got to see the whole totality of Patrice. I know. Like, we've seen, like, the whole totality of a Dave. Yeah. Or the whole totality of a Howard Stern. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like, or even these young NBA players, they've seen the whole totality of a brawn. So it's like, why not look at the best? version of that person. Don't get me wrong. We all got to go through whatever we got to go through, but why, why, if you've seen somebody for

15 years, 20 years, whatever it is, why get the worst parts to them? I think you look at the parts that serve what you need in that moment. So it's like,

sometimes that is the best. Like, there's a kid out there who's like, fuck, I didn't even know that I could be dealing with mental health issues and I read this guy's book and really helped me

understand myself and it's really helped me. That's like, that's probably what you would argue is one of the best parts of you. That's the best, to me, that's the best version. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's another young kid that loves busting balls. That loves sniffing those seats. Real talk.

And he doesn't know that he has anxiety about keeping things in. So he just has to get things out. And he sees somebody else do it and get rewarded for it. And it's hilarious. And it's like, and all of a sudden starts going, oh, shit, I'm not a weirdo. There are other successful people that are like me. I got my North Star right now. And then maybe he will 20 years later like you get to a point in his career where he's like,

oh, shit, I got to work on some of these things. There's a reason why I was so compulsive. No, they won't. Only you could do that. No, no, no, no, no. I'm telling y'all young stupid motherfuck, no, listen, I'm telling you all you young stupid motherfuckers, watching this right now, if you do what I was doing 12 years ago, you are not going to. You are not.

They're not letting y'all do make those kind of mistakes no more. You're going to be stuck on YouTube. Yeah. Owning your YouTube, pay. Yo, God bless YouTube. YouTube is the go. That's where we want to be. Word is born.

Nothing wrong with YouTube. Nothing wrong on YouTube, but it ain't, you know, if you want to do more, you're limiting yourself. So that question about retiring, you said that the main thing you look forward to now is, like, the executive role putting people on and watching the next ones come up. So I'm curious, why do you still do what you're doing that? Like the media side. I love it. I still got to drive for it. And I feel like everybody's doing the same thing.

So it's like, yo, let me show, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me do in radio, the other day. It's like, yo, we put ourselves in these boxes. And, you know, I look at it from, I watch it from learning. I learned it from watching rappers. You got the rapper who came in the game, talking that gangster shit, talking that hood shit, talking that thug shit. Devere stopped doing that. Eventually,

they hit that glass ceiling. You look up and you think it's, you think, you know, you can go farther, but you hit that glass ceiling. But then there's Jay-Z, who constantly grows and evolves with every album, you know,

does an album, he's talking about therapy, fatherhood, you know, trying to be a good man, his wife. Nas, rapping about brunch on fucking Sundays, making some of the best music of his career.

You know what I mean? On top of all of the great business investments and everything that he makes now, like he's been a part of $2 billion acquisition. You've been investing in two things that have been sold for over a billion dollars. Like, I'm looking at those guys and I'm realizing, like I said,

look at the whole totality of a person. I still love what it is that I do. And I look forward, especially with Breakfast Club, to helping whoever we put in that third throne being able to assist them in taking the fuck off. Even more than that person probably already is taking the fuck up. You know, that's the type of shit I like.

I look forward with Black Privilege Publishing, putting out people's books, helping people tell their stories. Same thing with SBA productions. You know, putting out audio scripted content that eventually turned to television and movies and documentaries. You know, say anything with my production company. See the God World. anything of a Black Effect Podcast Network.

Like that's what I like to do. I like watching motherfuckers take off. That's what's fun to me. But people who bring something different to the marketplace. Because right now I feel like everybody doing the same thing. And that's the shock job thing. And I don't see how that shit is sustainable. If everybody's doing it.

You know what I mean? I just don't see it. Okay. That's it. As always, if you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the brilliant idiotous podcast.

Thank you for listening.