The Brilliant Idiots - The Comfort Of Conspiracies

Episode Date: November 4, 2022

This week the brilliant idiots first start off the episode giving Andrew birthday wishes as it just passed, which began a discussion about birthday insecurities. Next, they speak on Jake Paul ridicu...lous statements on beating Canelo, Diddy being positively brilliant dressing up as the “Joker” on Halloween and Kyrie Irving getting backlash for posting a pic on the anti semitic  documentary. They also address some of the backlash Charlamagne received after his comments on Kanye. ********************************************************** Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount+ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Empty Thoughts Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empty-thoughts-show/id1622292632 Empty Thoughts Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-zRsExS9E0VBmwb9Cekdug Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I love the premise of this show. Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit. Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby. Yep, Shalamanda God. Andrew Sheld. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Now, by the time y'all see this video, you're going to wonder why I'm dressed like this, okay? Yeah, that's right. It's clearly because it's Halloween people, you know, and I have been getting set up all day because I was at breakfast club earlier this morning, only person in a goddamn costume. And Andrew told me he was dressing up. Or no, Taylor. Yeah, I thought we were dressing up. And then I didn't.
Starting point is 00:00:37 That's on me. Taylor's dressed with Bruno Mars. Sorry about that. Show him, Taylor. Show him. I'm a leader Doropee. What are you? Bruno Mars.
Starting point is 00:00:48 You're a ringleader. Oh. She's the ringleader of the Universe Soul Circus. No, the Universal Soul Circus was wild. They used to do that for real. I just thought of a good one, but I can't say. The Universe Soul Circus, she used to do. to do that. They used to put, they used to dress dogs up as lines. I'm serious. They used to dress dogs up
Starting point is 00:01:09 as pit bulls. So you're on brand. You on brand. How was your weekend, Sholtsi? Yesterday was your B day? My B day. Happy born day. Thank you, man. I think birthdays are stressful. Why? I don't know. I mean, I've been thinking about it. It's a weird, yeah, it's a weird time. I mean, it seems like a, yeah, it's a weird time. Why? I don't know. I had a lot of anxiety around my birthday. Really? Yeah. You getting another year older and you got a lot. more responsibilities now and I think it's probably hitting you and Lord have mercy I'm a fucking adult. Yeah, yeah. I'm knocking on
Starting point is 00:01:38 40 bro, where you at now? Yeah, I'm 39 years old. Yeah, I think there's definitely like age as a component. I think it's also like it's the only day year where there's like an expectation of treatment. Like every other day
Starting point is 00:01:54 go. You know what I'm saying? Like every other day there's no expectation of treatment, right? But on your birthday, for whatever reason, there's an expectation of people reaching out or saying something to you. And I know it's complete arbitrary and irrational and I'm not like a,
Starting point is 00:02:10 I try not to be like sensitive about these things, but I found myself getting caught up in it. Like, oh, did this person wish me happy birthday? I'm like, who gives a fuck? Like, people are busy. They have their own lives. They're doing these things. But it was weird to have that kind of anxiety.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I don't know anxiety, but like almost potential letdown, you know? And that doesn't happen to me with any other day. I know exactly what you mean, and it's the weirdest thing. It's weird how the human brain works, right? Because I feel like I'm very low maintenance. Like I would rather do for people. You know what I'm saying? Then actually be the person getting things done to them, right? Like, it just makes me uneasy. Like, I even spoke to my therapist about this, like, receiving joy, you know what I mean? Or letting people do things for you. Like, she broke it down about how it's,
Starting point is 00:02:56 you know, it's like trust issues and I don't want to, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't to be disappointed by people. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, because you have expect, you shouldn't have any expectations for anybody. Yeah. Right? And you shouldn't expect you from other people.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So it's just like, I would rather be the person showing the love than receiving it. Yeah. But it's weird, right? Because you just say that until you don't get it. You disappointed me. You didn't come to my birthday. I sent you a bottle of wine, no. Well, you're supposed to do that and come to my birthday.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It's not one or the other. But what's interesting about that is. But that's unfair because you have your life. life and you have the things that you need to do? No, I'm just scared of the mall. It's just straight. It's just literally like, I want to go to show to his birthday, but it's at the mall. But it's at a wave pool that I rented out that's a private. Oh, you didn't say that? You didn't add all of that. You did not say private. You just said, I'm doing it at the surf place at the mall. You did not say that. Now you speak in my language. But here's here, but here's a perfect example
Starting point is 00:03:55 where it's just like, I can't let like narcissism is the world revolves around you. And Everybody should drop everything for you. And then... That's not narcissism. I don't believe that. Well, we can debate that, but I guess what I'm trying to say is like, but this is a perfect... It's like, birthdays almost like lend themselves to your narcissism. It's like an excuse for narcissism when you should have the same...
Starting point is 00:04:15 I should go, no, people have things doing their lives. Like, you had to do something. You had... And my till screening. You had your till screening. Like, there are other things you had to do. So there's this moment where I'm like, I really wish my friend made it happen for this day. But at the same time...
Starting point is 00:04:28 Now you're making me feel bad. See what they're talking? See what I'm saying? I'm just trying to express how I feel. No, now you're making me fucking feel bad. No, but you see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:35 Because it's like this, if it was just like, yo, let's go surfing on a Saturday, right? Then, and you couldn't come. You'd be like,
Starting point is 00:04:40 yeah, people are busy. But there's, you have one birthday a year. So all of a sudden, you start putting this pressure like, oh, if people really fuck with me,
Starting point is 00:04:47 they would sacrifice for this day when it's not fair. People have their lives and they have other things that they need to do. And that's how I treat shit. I miss people's birthday all the time. Now you feel bad.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I do. But my goal isn't for you to feel bad. My goal is to... I think that was your sole goal. It feels better. You feel bad. I'll be honest with you. It does feel a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:05:07 No, but it's real. It's like, yo, because you say to yourself, I don't care if that person wishes me happy birthday, but it's just like, why the fuck didn't that person wish me happy birthday? Yeah. Dude, it's so weird. And there's like a sliding scale of the things people do to wish you happy birthday that, like, make you feel good based on your expectations of them.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Like if it's a, if somebody who, like, I'm not very close to goes above and beyond, my expectation was so low. They went above and beyond. I'm, like, so touched and, like, blown away. But it's unfair that the people I'm closest to have to do something huge for me to be blown away. That's unfair. I think birthdays are important, though, because I think we're all so tender on our birthdays. Like, yeah, you're feeling right now.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I never felt like this when I was young about birthday. Not at all. The older I get, I'm crying on, bro. I'm, like, literally, like, in tears. And like I really do appreciate my people's birthdays, right? Like people that I love and I care about and I think it is important to acknowledge. Like, hey, I know this is your day, happy born day. And not just because of a social media post like, nah, man, send some flowers.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah. Send a bottle of wine. You know what I mean? Put some thought into writing a little card and just letting them know. Like, you know what I mean? Like, yo, they appreciate it, you know? And then, you know, you feel away too because it's like, well, damn, did they receive my bottle of wine? Because he didn't acknowledge it.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah. But does he not like wine? Does his wife not like? No, no, I like the bottle of wine. It was a weird bottle, too. What was it? I don't know. It was like some...
Starting point is 00:06:29 It was called like prisoners or something. It was somebody like wrapped in chains. I was like, did you get this at the fuck? I swear to God. I was like, I thought you literally got it from the till screening. And then, brought it and then like sent it directly there. It was a weird choice. I just told my assistant, I said, get him a nice bottle of wine.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't believe you. I swear to God. I have my wife said that. me a picture of it. It was like shocking. I was like, okay, what's going on here? But I do think that we should appreciate birthdays because man, we live in a world where people are waking up dead every day. You know what I'm saying? And when you talk about 39 years old, I'm 44. What? But you know what? I didn't make it to 39, bro. I didn't make it the 44. No, you're right.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But it also is cool because it gave me perspective on like what I need to do for people's birthdays. Like this past year, I've been going a little bit harder for people's birthdays. But in the past, Like I never put anything on it because I didn't expect nothing from mine. You know what I mean? Well, and the finances change, right? That's also true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's 100%.
Starting point is 00:07:31 But now I know that someone could be feeling that insecurity on their birthday. And I know that I could help them with that by making that effort. I'm telling you right now, I know I feel insecurity on my birthday. Why I don't know. I don't know why at the tender age or 40 plus. Because people could let you down. It's not even just about the people. It's the fact that this we're all getting older.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah, yeah. Like this shit is not stopping for nobody. I look at my daughter sometime and I'm like, my daughter's 14. That's how I gauge my age now. I gauge my age. And your children's age. Your children. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:01 It's like, damn, when I first had my daughter, I was 29. I literally turned 32 days later. Yeah. Her birthday is two days before mine. Yeah. You know what I mean? And so it's like I'm looking at her the older she gets, the older I'm getting. And I really do think about life.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Like now my perspective is different. Like when I was young, think about how we used to look at like, 30 and 40. Like, man, that's old as shit. Yeah. But now I'm looking at 60 somethings.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I'm really looking at Steve Harvey and like, Steve 65, his kids are 20 something. That's fly to me. Some of his kids work with him. You know what I mean? Like,
Starting point is 00:08:34 that's what I'm looking at now. But I think that that's why it's so important to have kids. And I say this is someone who doesn't have kids yet, but hopefully. Keep nothing soon. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Your boys out here. But like kids allow you to access you know, the childhood playfulness. Yeah. That you need to access as an adult. They allowed you to like, I imagine it allowed you to like retap in.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And they, I don't know, they give you this like, I don't know, this purpose. Like even look at like Halloween, we're all dressed up. I'm dressed as fucking sting.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You know why? Because I grew up Jehovah Witness. Yeah. If I never got to celebrate Halloween. Yeah. And now I'm 44 years old. Bro. Wearing all the Halloween costumes
Starting point is 00:09:18 I would have wore if I could have afforded them And if I was celebrated Halloween, I was Black Panther one year. I was Iron Man one year. Now I'm goddamn sting from the WWE. Yep. You know? I was having this conversation with Jordan Peterson.
Starting point is 00:09:30 You know who Jordan Peterson is? Yeah, he made Get Up. Some of my favorite movies. But he was talking about that. Like, we were talking about something like what's the absence of power, it's play? And then we have the discussion about like the importance of play, right? And I think as humans, it allows us to prepare our. for the harsh things of life.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yeah. Like Halloween is playing with death. In its real inception, it's death. Everybody said that. Is that true? 100%. Like this idea you dress up a sting is new. Right?
Starting point is 00:10:01 Back in the day, it's like you're a skeleton, you're a zombie, you're all these figures that have already passed. And I think it's our safe way to play with the idea that people die. Our loved ones die, the people we care most about die. And in life, we constantly do that, right?
Starting point is 00:10:17 We prepare ourselves. Like, even with humor, humor is a great way to talk about some of the most difficult things in life. Absolutely. And it prepares us for dealing with those fucking difficult things. We're drawn to this. Like even when you spar somebody in boxing, it's preparing for the fight. You know, like, even like flirting with a girl, you're using play to go a little bit into a territory that's like naughty.
Starting point is 00:10:40 But as long as it's playful, it's okay. If you're just like hitting on a girl all aggressive, she's like, get the fuck out of here. But if you know how to play, all of a sudden she's having fun too. Better have a joke. Right. I was reading something or watching something. They were talking about Halloween. And it's not just Halloween in America.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It's like all over the world. They have these like days of the day. Yeah. New Mexico. They have the, uh, Mexico. Mexico, right? Mexico. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:01 The day. The day. The day. Whatever the fuck. You just had it. Day of the day. Day of the day. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And it's like they do that. It's almost like a purge. Yeah. Like, you know, they don't go so far as committing all of these crimes. But it's just like, yo, you got to lean into your dark side, lean into your shadow side for the day. Yeah. Get it out.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Listen, I enjoy it. We're drawn to it. It allows us to be brave in a safe environment, right? And we need that because we need to be brave in life. So we got to practice being brave. Yeah. You made me think of something too when you were talking about the parents. It's like, man, what were our parents going through that they did not play at all?
Starting point is 00:11:34 But my parents didn't play. I'm still 18 in my mind. Yeah. So I'm still, and maybe it's because the culture is kind of like similar because like even though my, you know, my oldest is 14. Yeah. I don't think there's ever been a time. in our history where you've had a culture, which is hip-hop, which is kind of like there's no age gap to it. Like, my, these kids are watching Callet on social media. And Cal is playful. Yes. These
Starting point is 00:12:01 kids are wearing Jordans and still, he's, even though they might be becoming a symbol of hate. Like, you know what I mean? Like, they're still wearing these things. So it's like, we got so many things in common of the music. Yeah. Like, if I'm walking around the house saying, oh, you thought I was feeling you? You know what I mean? Yeah. My daughter is telling me, Stop, dad. Because that's what the kids in her school is singing. So it's just like there's still like a connective tissue that I don't feel like we had with our parents. I think, yeah, that's why like our parents' generation was a bunch of alcoholics.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Right? Because they came back from Vietnam and there was no play anymore. They just saw absolute atrocities nonstop. And it was like one of the worst things I've ever experienced. It is. Nothing to laugh about. I mean, civil rights movement. Imagine what your folks are going through at that time.
Starting point is 00:12:46 It's like a horrible, horrible. horrible experience. How do you play in that? Damn. But if you look at certain generations, there was a lot of play. Man, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:55 I got an aunt who's 80 years old, my aunt, and I remember last summer that her and my aunt and my other aunt and my mom were having a conversation and she was like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:13:06 nothing about no integration. You know what I mean? She was, I don't know, she said, I don't know about no, which was it, which was, I don't know nothing by no integration.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yeah. Because her whole time in school was segregated. And I'm like, damn. Can you imagine that? Yeah. Like, and when you ask them what has changed, they're like, nothing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Because they're already used to being in their own spaces. I always wondered that, like, you know how, like, black people have made their food so delicious, despite it being, like, not the most desirable parts of the food? Yeah. Right? That's where soul food comes from, right? Mm-hmm. Do you think, like, the black water fountains were, like, fire?
Starting point is 00:13:44 Like... Nah, that's a great question. I never thought about that, but that makes a lot of fucking sense. There might be Kool-Aid coming. You don't know exactly what was coming out of them. That makes a lot of sense, bro. I'm just saying black people have found a way to take whatever they've gotten and make it better. No, I know it sounds like a joke, but I get what you're saying because I'm sure the black water fountains weren't as good.
Starting point is 00:14:08 But then they did it was something they did. Yeah, like put a men on their tongue, something. I guarantee. Guarantee. I guarantee. I'll put the water. in some type of jug and then added like a little bit of sugar to. I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I bet you something like that happened. I promise you. They probably took the water home, boiled it, then made it cooler. Who knows? I think so. I've never thought about it. What else happened this weekend, man? You saw the Jake Faw fight? Shout out to Black Excellence, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Ooh, I'm just saying. That's what y'all do. You can't stop it. You cannot stop it. It's impossible stuff. You definitely can't stop this. Do you just watch the fight? Do you think that there are white people trying to steal the black water found water? I think white people have been trying to steal from black people and steal black people forever.
Starting point is 00:14:55 You think? It's the inception of time. Okay. Well, we didn't need to go there with that. Since the inception of time. Did you watch the fight? I did watch the fight. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Unbelievable. I thought it was a great fight. Did you pay $4.99 for it? I paid $60 for it. I went to my cable provider and I bought Showtime pay-per-view and that shit said, $4.99. Yes, so I ordered it twice. I ordered it downstairs and upstairs because my
Starting point is 00:15:22 wife and sister-in-law was downstairs watching movies, so I was upstairs watching the fight, and I paid $4.99 on both TVs. Yeah, I don't think you did, bro. I don't know, but I took a screenshot of the goddamn picture, so when the bill comes, and it says whatever it says is for Showtime? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:36 And you also paid for it. No, I got Showtime. All right, I got Showtime. I thought the fight was amazing, and then I actually thought Jake was going to do it. I posted about it. I thought he was going to. I mean, like, not only does he knock him down in the eighth,
Starting point is 00:15:49 but he was the dominant force in the fight. There were times where Silva was putting on pressure. Yeah. But an interesting thing about this fight, if you watch, Silva didn't feel comfortable exchanging at distance. So he put on pressure and he kind of crowded him, and he was throwing like uppercuts. And the reason he did that, I'm assuming,
Starting point is 00:16:08 is because he was concerned about getting hit. So he wanted to crowd Jake's punches so he didn't have the opportunity to bust out that big right hand. It did seem like for a moment he wasn't afraid of Paul's power at all. No, for the first few rounds, he wasn't afraid because he got caught by some big shots and didn't go down. That being said, he wasn't exchanging a distance.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And Silva's a guy, if you watch his fights when he was in MMA, he was beautiful exchanging a distance, punching, moving, and I just think that he thought it was too costly. I mean? I want Paul to work on his hugs, though. His hugs look a little too sensual. What do you mean? Like, they look intimate. Like it wasn't like a boxing hug.
Starting point is 00:16:43 It was like a real hug. Like, oh, I miss you, having a birthday. No, the whole time. Oh, like the whole thing was in. So we're putting pressure on him and he would try to hold him and look like a real hero, bro. Imagine you were fighting your hero. You had the opportunity to hug him just a little bit. Of course he's going to do it.
Starting point is 00:16:57 You know what, I don't want, I don't know if Jake Paul needs to fight a real boxer. Yo, I tell Jake this. I'm like, bro, stop trying to win over the hearts of like the people who are your haters anyway. You never, it don't matter if you beat Canello. They're going to say, oh, Canello got off the steroids. I can't even believe. I can't even believe that. example you use.
Starting point is 00:17:16 My point is, that's an extreme. My point is he could beat the best boxer ever, and people are going to find an excuse as to why he did it, right? No, you beat Canello, you got to give ball with props. Bro. But I know what you say. They'll be like, well, go fight somebody.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Go fight Terrence Crawford now, then. Exactly. Go fight Bud now. Exactly. They're going to say, yo, you're 200 pounds. He's 150 pounds while you're fighting him. So my point is stop trying to win over the haters and then just keep enraging them.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Fight like, for example, Silva has had boxing matches. He beat Chavez Jr. So he beat a legit boxer. Silva did. And then he just easily beat Silva and dropped him in the process. So it's like what I think of, I'm doing if I'm from you,
Starting point is 00:17:55 is just taking the biggest money fights and then get in the fuck out of there while you still got some brain cells left. I like Jake. I mean, I just like Jake because he's a good showman. Oh, great. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:04 I mean, even getting in the ring at the end of the fight and calling out Canelo and Nate Diaz. It's amazing. I want Nate Diaz, he was a bitch. He tried to come into my locker room. He tried to cause some shit. And then he always leaves the fucking arena.
Starting point is 00:18:18 So Nate Diaz, stop being a bitch and fight me. And Canello, you too. You too, Canelo. You guys said, oh, you can't beat someone. You can't beat a stricter. You can't beat a legend like Anderson Silva. I just did it. So why can't I beat Canello?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Fuck y'all. I mean, it just keeps things going because it makes everybody be like, you can't beat such and such. Which he can't. Canelo's fucking you up, Jake. I'm letting you know that right now. So stop. Could you stop right now?
Starting point is 00:18:45 How many guys he got to beat before people go, all right, he's good? I'm not saying he's not good. I'm just saying you're not beating Canelo Alvarez, one of the greatest boxers of all time. On paper, I 100% agree with that statement. Okay? 100% agree with that statement on paper.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Step Curry. Yes. Logan, crying, front row. Ready to put on gloves and coming in and defend his brother if he gets a nail. 100%. Build the wall. That being said.
Starting point is 00:19:11 For what Connello would choose to take ball. Are you crazy? I agree. 100% on paper. That being said, I thought that Floyd Mayer would knock out Logan within a few rounds, and then Logan went the entire fight with Floyd, and Floyd couldn't hurt Logan at all. I never thought, I never thought Floyd would, well, you know what, I did think Floyd would probably knock Logan out, but the size difference. Now we're talking about size. Now we're talking about age. That's what happens every day. I don't know if I ever said Floyd would knock him out, though. I said Floyd was what I was thinking. No, I thought just on points. I just thought he would finesse him, which he did. Floyd fought like Floyd. And that's what I was trying. trying to say when you're a big guy and you think you can get in that ring with one of these
Starting point is 00:19:49 dudes like these are boxers they're skilled they move around like you can't touch them yes was it impressive Logan last you I guess eight rounds with Floyd sure on paper but I think we move in the gold post for it's like it's it's this is what this what I've seen people do every single time it's like he's going to get demolished and then he beats him and then it's like uh well he's old uh well he's an m m ms guy uh well he's this it's constant moving the goal post at a certain point you guys at a certain point you're going to have to say the dude, well at least with Jake, hasn't lost, and it has only been close once. And then this one right here.
Starting point is 00:20:24 No, the tyrant one, I think the first tyrant fight was closer. And then, so it's only been close once. And then the second time they fought slept. Imagine a question. Logan is how big? Six to what? Six to what? Six, two hundred plus.
Starting point is 00:20:38 He's a heavyweight. Yeah. Does Floyd Mayweather beat Anthony Joshua? Anthony Josh's was been boxing as a lot of. a professional. But that's what I mean. Yeah. So somebody that size who actually boxes. Logan's a vlogger. Floyd's not even getting in the ring with. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:20:54 A hundred percent. I'm saying. Weight matters. What I'm trying to say is nobody was saying that before the fight. I never thought Logan had a chance. We can go back and rewind the tape. No, no. But you hear what I'm saying? It's like after the fight, all the excuses come in. Before the fight, the peanut gallery is going, oh, it's going to be over. You about to take this guy's head off. Myself included. I was like, there's no way. Yeah, I never thought. I never thought, Floyd would knock Logan out only because we haven't seen Floyd knock out anybody in forever.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Fair enough. So that never was my mindset. All I'm saying is got to give some credit where credit's doing. Listen, here's the thing. I bought the Jake Paul Anderson Silver fight for one reason and one reason only. I knew I would be entertained. And it was entertaining. It was entertaining.
Starting point is 00:21:34 It was just that simple for me. Like, I'm not looking, Jake, you have nothing to. I don't know about everybody else. People like me, you don't got nothing to prove. I'm watching you for what you are. Yeah. I am highly entertained when I see Jake. Paul in the ring. I've watched five Jake Paul
Starting point is 00:21:47 fights and I've been entertained for every single one of them. Whether it's the knockout or just like the anticipation of a man, somebody going to finally fuck Jake up, you know what I mean? Even watching the Silver fight. I'm like oh shit, Silver giving him all he can't handle. That second round, I was concerned.
Starting point is 00:22:03 The second round, Silva came on heart. The reason I didn't think Silver was going to win though is because when I saw some of the blows he was landing on Jake and Jake was taking him, I'm like he's a right. And I don't, never looked fatigue. Nope.
Starting point is 00:22:17 His cardio look good. It's an eight-round fight. It's not a 12-round fight. And also, I don't know, 12-round benefit Silva. He's 47 years old. Yeah, you're right. You know?
Starting point is 00:22:25 I'm curious about this Nate Diaz fight. I'm, one, what weight are they going to fight at? Two, Nate has fought guys at 155 and 170. He hasn't fought 185-pound guys like Jake. I thought Silver was about to kick the shit out of Jake. It was one time when Silver kept doing his leg up like that. I'm like, man, Sometimes just off muscle memory and reflex.
Starting point is 00:22:46 That's what Jake got to be concerned about. You're fucking around. You're going to get one of the MMA guys, and they're going to forget their boxing, and they're going to catch you in the fucking neck, and that shit ain't going to be worth it. Not at all. You better get back to basketball players.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Yeah. Salute to Diddy. I don't even know what this means anymore. Diddy becomes a billionaire. Okay. I don't know what that means anymore. Well, there's... I don't know what that means anymore,
Starting point is 00:23:12 because we know... Yep. It's in a... So it's an evaluation. I guess his company is Sirak and Dalyon and everything else he got going on. I can't read that. I'm getting old. What does that say?
Starting point is 00:23:22 According to a new report from former Forbes editor, Zach O'Malley, Jay-Z, is stuck with his spot as the wealthiest hip-hop artist in North America with a net worth of $1.5 billion. Earlier this year, Ye was in second place in the list of hip-hop's highest earners with $250 million in earnings for $220, 2021. But after Zoot Adidas came to an abrupt end on account of his anti-Semitic comments, He slipped to third place of net worth. He was reportedly worth $2 billion at one point. This year, now Diddy is the second place spot after Trayma Hanyi in the past. Okay, this is what I want to see.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Diddy is hip-hop's third billionaire with a net worth of $1 billion. His Sir Rock partnership with Diego is said to account for the bulk of his wealth, but other assets such as Revolt and DeLian Tequila have certainly helped last year. He made how much? $90 million. I mean, that makes sense. He's in the spirit. business. You know what I mean? But I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:13 this is all based off valuations of his company. I mean, you know, saluted Diddy. He earned it. You guys been around forever. He's, he's interesting because he loves Halloween. You can tell it. It's like he lives it. He
Starting point is 00:24:29 made me put on this. Really? But I wasn't going to dress up for Halloween. Yeah. And then I saw Diddy and it was like Diddy was literally the essence of this day. And based off, I don't know if I read it saw it. Something I was watching this weekend where he was talking about how like, you know, these days of the dead or these days are like days where you just lean into your shadow,
Starting point is 00:24:49 you lean into the dark side and you just express it. He did that with that joker costume and it looked so free. I think, I think, oh, say that again, it just looks so freeing. I think the more strict your identity is in the real world, the more you need Halloween or Burning Man. You know who goes to Burning Man every year. Oh, wow. You need these places. where you can let loose and not be confined. And I think that there is a- Take your mask off. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I think there is a rigidity. This is obviously outside perspective, but like there's a rigidity to being a dude in hip-hop and a rigidity to being a black person, right? There's, you, if you go outside of the fray, you could be chastised. Yeah, for anything. For anything.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Literally for anything. Like there's a, I think it's changed over the years, but I understand what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I can see why Halloween is, is this liberating holiday, and so is Burning Man, because you get to just act and behave
Starting point is 00:25:48 in whatever way the character is. Yeah. You know, it's freeing. So I can see why he goes all in on something like this. Listen, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed watching him. Please insert, when he got into it with Michael Ferguson, too bit for power.
Starting point is 00:26:01 It doesn't matter what it was about. It was entertaining. What I think, I think that two bit, with Michael Ferguson, I don't know if he knew that was didn't. No, I don't think he did. And I think that he ran, I think probably Diddy ran up on him with Sirrock and Dalyon on his breath. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:18 And was on his joke or shit. And Michael clearly not in costume. He's like, man, stop playing with me. And then, so, yeah, yeah. So Ditty's like, yo, you got to know who I am. You got to know who the fuck I am. You got to know what costume I'm wearing every year. I mean, you can tell that he took at least five shots of Dalyon and seven shots of Syracco before he left the house.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Yeah, he switched character so fast. It was amazing. He went through four. He went from Puff, the Love to Diddy to the Joker, back to love. Can you play it, Taylor? Oh. Do we got some audio? You know why I loved.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Another reason I enjoy Diddy. What? There is not a better character in hip-hop. Diddy got to be like top five characters ever in hip-hop. And when you, there's not a time you're going to meet Diddy and don't get Diddy. Yeah. It don't matter if you've been listening to him since the 90s, The person you think he is on those records is the person you meet even at the 10 to age of 57 years old.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Oh, this Diddy? Did he's over a half a century. I know that much. But he's always Sean Puffy Combs. Taylor, you asked us to play it and you don't even have it ready. Yeah, Diddy's 52. 52. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Well, I, he's just even, even that right there, you can take that. and chop that up and put it on your album later. You can take that and put it on your mixtape or on your album later. Just those album cuts. Like, Jada Kits got this song that I love called, Oh, man, it's off the last album. And he takes a clip of Instagram rant Diddy Did.
Starting point is 00:27:55 When he was like, you don't hustle, you don't eat. You don't hustle, you don't eat. You think you're going to fucking outhustle me? Man, I've never outhustle me. He's on my comment page saying, damn, did he leave something for the rest of us? Nick, you don't hustle, you don't eat. You don't hustle.
Starting point is 00:28:08 you don't eat, Nick. Hustle harder. They ain't gonna never hustle hard as me. Think I do this shit for the money. I do it because what? Why are you so mad, Diddy? I'm not mad. I'm disappointed.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Giving you the blueprint to get it out here and you don't want to do what it takes. You want to stay on your Instagram or take motherfucking selfies and you ain't hustling hard. That was just an Instagram rap, but it sounds so good on the album. That right there is going to sound phenomenal on the album. Usually when somebody says,
Starting point is 00:28:37 Do you know who I am? You think they're being a dick. Oh, you got it now? Tell you. Do you know who I am? Bro, what? Bro, you know what I am? So on love, bro.
Starting point is 00:28:44 So on love, bro. Yeah, yo, bro. Yeah, yeah, bro. Come here. Give me a hug, though, nigga. You lucky, though, nigger. You're really about that. I love you.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And we're together. We're stronger together. So somebody told them in. I win. You change your vibration. Change your vibration. Change your vibration. When you see your brother, you love it.
Starting point is 00:29:11 These pushes. Change your vibration. Yeah. Did nobody tell him it's ditty yet? Just as I said. Pete and that broke character. What's up, baby? What's got, baby?
Starting point is 00:29:32 Rashat. You don't like me? The motherfucker get to it, nigga. You don't like me, you motherfucking front. Get to it, bitch. Don't fucking play with me on Halloween? You don't play with me on Halloween? It's what out there, nigga?
Starting point is 00:29:46 What's out? Fucking come in here and I'll bust your shit. Nah, hey, keep it pimping. You fucking pussy, make sure you don't never talk to me like that, nigga. I'm love, nigga. I'm gonna tell you something. They're gonna stop giving me Yon-N-Words money in a minute. Why isn't someone told him it's dead?
Starting point is 00:30:02 He didn't. Taking over my energy. You want to hurt you. It's something that I do to you. This crowd. Don't go for this crowd. You know who I am? Do you know who I am?
Starting point is 00:30:11 Now Diddy's realizing, oh, you didn't know I was Diddy. So love, bro. So love, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. That's all love. It's a puck. Come me, give me a hug, though. You lucky, though, nigger.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Yeah, I don't think he realized he was puff. But Did he? You tell you something. Robert Smith, Oprah, Wolfram, Bob Johnson, the original black man in this country are just a person. I'm telling you right now, they are disgusted at you new black people who are getting bees in front of your name. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:47 There's got to be some billionaire etiquette, right? And it ain't even just the black billionaires. The Elon Musk of the world, these new billionaires, man, y'all got to start moving the way OG billionaires used to move. How? Why, why? I just feel like the etiquette was better. The etiquette was different. Maybe they had to behave because the OG billionaires was.
Starting point is 00:31:07 doing horrible things to get their money. You think? I think so. I hear people say that. I hear people say that, right? People say like, oh, you got to do the most heinous things in order to make billions of dollars. No such thing as a billionaire without a little blood on his hands.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Do we really believe that? Yes. Why? Tell me why. Don't give me some. The only way I don't believe it is if, I mean, what do you mean by proof? Because, like, what did a tech guy do other than deep? That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:31:35 The genius. So the tech guys What did the oil guy do Other than fucking know where the oils What do you mean What the oil guy? What the family generation of oil? See ya
Starting point is 00:31:43 CIA, I think we need a little coup Over there in Iraq They got some oil What about the oil? In Texas? What about people in America Who got like Texas Got oil right there?
Starting point is 00:31:53 Oh yeah I mean there's there's definitely Some shady shit that's going on there For sure I'm just saying it's like We say that Oh you got to have some blood on your hands Some people just have great ideas
Starting point is 00:32:01 And those ideas Tech is different Because it's all evaluation based But I think any product, like if you create a product, like whatever, I mean, I'm sure they're not doing it, but let's say Coca-Cola. Yeah. You made Coke. You made a soda. Oh, Coca-Cola is definitely billionaires.
Starting point is 00:32:15 That's what I'm saying. It's like, I don't think, oh, people with the Waltons who made Walmart. Like, I don't, I don't think everybody who's made massive amounts of money in this country has done something. Well, look at Walmart. Like, how many different mom and pop stores did they probably put out of business? Now, I'm not saying that that's blood on your hands, but you are literally going into a market on. undercutting every store in the market, losing money on products.
Starting point is 00:32:39 You're literally seeing how much the other stores there, the mom and pop stores are. You're charging less and losing money knowing that they'll go out of business and then you're raising the price. But you don't know the mom and pop's going out of business. You're not, I don't think you care. Listen, I'm not saying this is like,
Starting point is 00:32:53 I'm not trying to be like moral about this. I'm not trying to be like ethical about this. I'm just saying to extract that much wealth, you're not exactly looking out for everybody. I don't think any of us are when we're on our path to do what we do. When you're out here and you're saying you want to be the best stand-up comic, actually in your mind, you are saying, I'm about to slay all these motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah. I'm going to fuck all these people up. Maybe you think like that when you're opening. But they can eat too. I don't want them to not eat. Is that up to you, though? Not because it's different. If I'm the mom and pop,
Starting point is 00:33:27 I'm seeing what Walmart is doing it. I'm saying, okay, how do we adjust to survive? I'm not looking at every other comic's touring schedule and going, and, yo, book me the same weekend as that guy. I'm gonna fucking bury him. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't do that at all. He's a liar.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Nah. He's this guy, Alex. I don't think he doesn't. I've watched him do it. Do what? Okay. Dave Chappelle dropped a comedy special. Yeah, I didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And Andrews said, I'm going to drop me on stage freestyleing. Oh, yeah. Because I know it's funny. But whose idea was that? Who was Alex? Yeah. Oh, wow. Wow, Donnell Rouse will fuck you up.
Starting point is 00:34:05 It's going to be a tag team match between Andrew Schultz and Alex Media versus DeMefel and Don L.Rowell. But that's different. That's just me being nice. You know what I mean? That's a different thing. That's just me being nice. That's completely different.
Starting point is 00:34:21 What happens, though, like, you know, sometimes artists want to drop their albums on the same day, you know, I don't know if these big businesses are necessarily doing that. I think their mind state is I'm just coming to fuck the market up. And it's not like I'm aiming directly at the mom. and pops. I'm aiming at everybody. Like, I'm establishing, I'm establishing this business. We want to be number one in this space. It is what it is. Nobody's pure. Nobody's 100%
Starting point is 00:34:41 right in anything. We're all involved in some fucked up shit if you go down the production line long enough. That being said... Well, capitalism. Yeah, exactly. Just in general. Absolutely. Capitalism in this country is a fucked up system. Or in any country. It's not fucked up, but it is, if you paid people what they're worth, you wouldn't make any money.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And that's just three out. I got a credit are See, I'm getting better I'm not gonna say it Bro, you are sweating, dude It's crazy Because I'm trying to commit to this costume And it's white sweat
Starting point is 00:35:10 For some reason too It's like is there pink on you? No, can you give me a napkin, Taylor? Please. I'm trying to, it's right there's right there I'm trying to commit to this costume Yeah I'm trying to commit to this costume
Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah, yeah But Taylor, Taylor bypassed The thick hand towels To give me Kleenex No, the hand tank He's worried about your skin Thank you Taylor I started to say our fat friend
Starting point is 00:35:28 But I'm not going to say it Oh my God Van Lathan Our guy Who we love for right I'm not going to say. I'm not going to say. I'm not going to say.
Starting point is 00:35:37 What? What? Yeah. Poor man. I'm just trying to motivate him. Shout out to be it. I'm just trying to motivate him. Van,
Starting point is 00:35:46 you got this, bro. Banz said he's not doing the podcast until he loses weight. That is probably... He knows how our audience is. That's a smarter idea if I've ever heard one. That is... He's not worried about the audience, bro. He's worried about one guy.
Starting point is 00:36:01 You? No. You. Yes. I support your weight loss journey, Van. You got this, my brother. Trust me, you've done it before. You will do it again.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Maybe. Lo-old now. This guy's an animal, bro. This guy is an absolute animal. But Van said something this weekend, and I said to man, man, man, this might be the most brilliant thing I've ever heard you saying. Van's brilliant. But this might be the most brilliant thing I've ever heard, Van.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And I know I'm not going to break it down as eloquent as him. but he was breaking down the difference between value and worth. Ah. Nobody can ever pay you what your worth. Like your worth is infinite. Like think about LeBron James when he played for the cavaliers. LeBron James, when they said he left Cleveland, the economy of the city went down.
Starting point is 00:36:53 The Cleveland Cavaliers could never pay LeBron what he's worth, but they can pay him the highest value for a player of his caliber based off the business that they're in. That's why they have the max contract. You know what I mean? And I think a lot of times we all sit down and we have these conversations like, I know my worth,
Starting point is 00:37:10 I know my worth, yeah, but do you know your value? Do you know what your value is the said company you work for? Do you know your value to the industry you're in? But there's a difference between value and worth. And I think that little change in language will save a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:37:27 a lot of disappointment. Because what I'm seeing right now is everybody having these know your worth conversations, know your worth conversations, know your worth conversations, when the reality is you should know your value to whatever industry you're in. That's interesting. You know what I mean? Because if you go in there with worth, like you're going to always feel disappointed.
Starting point is 00:37:47 You're going to always feel like you're not getting what you're worth because they could never truly pay you what you're worth. But they can pay you the top value, right? They can pay you what your value is. So like I said, Van can break it down way better than me, but I just think there's a difference between value and worth.
Starting point is 00:38:03 And I'm watching a lot of people leave a lot of money on the table because they're not getting paid what they were. Right. And they're watching what's happening with other people. And listen, two things happen in situations when people do deals and stuff. They lie. Fudge the numbers a little bit.
Starting point is 00:38:20 You know what I'm saying? And then other times they really do get what they say they got, but that's their value to whatever. Can you speak on who you're talking about? I'm just talking in general. Like, it's just abroad. But that's their value to whatever company they're affiliated with or whatever industry they're in.
Starting point is 00:38:40 That might not be your value. Yeah, you might think you're worth $100 million. But the industry that you're in that is paying for your services might only be able to profit off of you if they're paying you $50 million. So are they going to lose $50 million by paying you what you believe you're worth,
Starting point is 00:39:00 they're probably not going to do it. Yeah. I don't think people will understand that. It's still, even as I'm paying you, I still have a business to run. And I can't bankrupt my business. Yeah. Paying you, you know, what you think, your worth.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Because the reality is it's not about your worth. It's about your value. That's why it's very important to know everything. Know how much, you know, ad revenue. Yeah. Not only your show might be bringing in or your station might be bringing in.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Or you, what are you responsible for ad revenue-wise? Yeah. When you can factor that in, you know, then you probably know what your value should be. And look at what's going on in the industry that you're in. What is everybody else that's on your level or your caliber of show or personality getting? Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Let's pay some bills, man. Let's do it, bro. Sluke to Squarespace. Today's episode is brought to you by Squarespace. SquareSpace is the all in one place.
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Starting point is 00:41:27 Let's get back to the show. Church announcement show, T. What you got? Nothing, man. Nothing, man. Talk to me. What the fuck, man. How are you going to pay from renting out these goddamn surfing places if you don't
Starting point is 00:41:40 fucking get back on the road, bro? Yeah, I'm working on it. I'm getting back up on stage, so that's been fun. But it's got to be, you know, you can't rush. Greatness. Greatness, man. I'm with you. It's got to be.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And purity. Like, I think there's a lot of people that just rush it back out because they want to be back on tour or do or fulfill the desire, that kind of stuff, whereas like, I want to make something special that is better than the last thing that you saw. Every time you come see it, it's got to be the best show ever. So there's pressure that comes to that. But like, for me, I don't want to just make something an hour. I want to really make sure that each piece and bit kind of blends together, and that takes
Starting point is 00:42:19 time. So in the meantime, you're just doing your movie thing. So, yeah, filming this movie. And I go back out there tonight. I told you, I was, I was, I was at, oh, ad week. I did a panel for ad week a couple of weeks ago. And one of the agents there, my man, Orrin, he was like, yeah, man, man, you know, I know somebody who's, I guess, I don't know if he's working on the movie that you're doing.
Starting point is 00:42:44 He was like, he's saying, Schultz is stealing the whole moon. I promise you, that's what he said to me. I mean, that's cool, man, that'd be really cool. That'd be really cool. But, yeah. But that's big. Every Thursday night, 1130, hell of a week on Comedy Central. Make sure you tune in this Thursday.
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Starting point is 00:43:41 that happened in Philadelphia. So check that out. Twitter. We could tell you. I say, I have, please, I have some. Oh, you got who I? Let me see who I got this week on hell of a week. Thank you, Taylor.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Thank you, Bruno Mars. Oh, this week we have, oh, my God, Donnell Rollins. Why do we book Donnell? Why? Why? Why? Can we change the booking? Jesus Christ. Nice to have you, Soled Dad, but Donnell?
Starting point is 00:44:18 Sitting here thinking how I can ruin Donnell's life on national television. Yep, yep. What can I do to ruin Donnell's life on national television? I will think about it and get back to you. Right. Can we, can we please, can we please talk about what everybody's, uh,
Starting point is 00:44:33 been DMing me and tagging me in for the last fucking three days or whatever? I'm sure it has something to do with Kanye West. Yes, it does. Yes. Okay. So a video came out of you, I believe on Vlad sitting with the worst posture ever on a couch from,
Starting point is 00:44:45 it was nine years ago, man. I was, you know, different person. Yeah, yeah. That was nine complexions ago. That's how you got it. That's how you got to. You know what's so funny?
Starting point is 00:44:56 Whenever an old video comes out of old, content, I just go to it. If I got a dog face, I'm like, I don't even do it. I don't even do it. I don't even care. They're right. Whatever they say, they're right. That was a wild boy, right?
Starting point is 00:45:08 Okay. So now everybody's going saying that like, yo, Charlemagne was saying the exact same thing. He's criticizing Kanye for- Yeah, calling me a hypocrite. Now, what are your thoughts on that? Well, their exact thing was, you know, they were upset that I called Kanye a Nazi because, you know, he went after black people and Jewish people in the same week.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And they're saying that, you know, what I said, was the same thing. I think that there's a big difference in saying there are a lot of Jewish people who hold powerful positions in Hollywood in the music industry, right? Like me saying that is a fact. That's like saying there's a lot of black players
Starting point is 00:45:44 in the NBA. Yeah, it's a fact. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But if I say, hey, you know, there's a lot of Jewish people in Hollywood and the music industry and they control the messaging
Starting point is 00:45:55 and, you know, they're responsible for all the negative comments. content that goes out and, you know, they're manipulating the media and this and that. That's where the anti-Semitism comes in the world. Yeah. Chris, come on, Mr. Why am I sitting here having conversations when we have a Jewish man in the room that can explain it better than me?
Starting point is 00:46:14 A well-researched Jewish man who's still wearing masks for no reason? Here we go. Here we go, Chris. It's the Jew minute with Chris Maro. Yeah. It is true. Jews founded Hollywood as we know it today, and the reason
Starting point is 00:46:34 is because there was no film industry in the 1920s, and a lot of Jews were shut out of at the time, traditional I don't think they were even called media there, but entertainment. And most of the, I think a lot of the
Starting point is 00:46:50 founders of the Hollywood studio were like furriers, you know, like people who sold furs because at that time, men were fair hats and fur jackets, and that was a big thing. that Jews were involved in, and they went out to Los Angeles, and they started this industry. So from that alone, you know, it makes sense that they're still, you know, well represented in it because they essentially started it. I was watching an Adam Sandler sketch from S&L back in the day called Hanukkah Hollywood or something like that.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Yeah. And the whole sketch was literally based on the large amount of representation of... But when you feel like the only kid in town without a Christian... Christmas tree. Here's a list of people who are Jewish, just like you and me. But it's okay. I don't think there's any issue with having like a large amount of representation. Yeah, I think the issue is saying that one, they control the media. Yeah, saying they control every industry in the world and they're responsible for all the evils in the world. Control the banks. Yeah, that's what an anti-type. That type of messaging. But being part of an
Starting point is 00:47:55 industry that they helped start is not bad. That's right. It's like saying like black people starting soul food. It's like, yeah. You should be overrepresented in soul food. That's right. Huh? Well, no, you should. I don't know if we are, but we should. But you should be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. And also, too, it's like, here's the thing that people keep forgetting. And it's weird, right? But I think the thing, Kanye had a lot of different conversations going on. Yeah. Are we, Kanye threatened. That's, that's what the issue is. The DefCon 3. Well, DefCon, now that's debatable because DefCon is not about. attack, it's about defense. It's still a militant. It's still ready for war. Yeah, but it's ready for
Starting point is 00:48:34 being attacked, not ready to attack someone. He doesn't even know what the fuck it is. That's my point. But yeah, but the point is that he's acting as if there's this one religion and group of people that has control of the media and is using that media for nefarious intent. It's using that media to fuck over black people, his people. It's using that media to control narrative and it's using that media to currently in this point destroy his life. He's using that media to, destroying his life. There's no accountability. This is what he's doing to himself. What if anybody else said the things that he said about any other group, they two would be canceled. What I saw in that video that everybody's tagging me in is you saying that there are people that are out there
Starting point is 00:49:15 trying to protect themselves from hate. You said I would like black people to also do this when people hate on us. Yeah. That's what I understood from that video. I literally said in the video that you know, this was nine years ago, I do have a slightly different take on it now, but I said that, you know, I feel like we don't have an organization that has that kind of power. Like I, and I've specifically mentioned the NAACP. Right. You know what I mean? That could write a letter to a company and demand something. But here's the thing. I might have been a little off on that because I don't even know if it's about the organization having the power. It's just the organization doing it. Because as Frederick Douglass said, power concedes nothing without a demand. I think that's the
Starting point is 00:49:58 one thing that we're all forgetting about everything that's been going on in the past couple of weeks. Jewish people organized and strategized. They had petitions. They had, you know, the Anti-Defamation League writing letters. They had, you know, people like Ari Emanuel doing op-eds and different things. And they were actually asking for something. So you hear black people say, oh, well, how come they didn't, this corporation didn't drop, you know, Kanye? Because if it's anti-black comments, it's like, did we ask them to?
Starting point is 00:50:24 I wouldn't expect a corporation. That's got to be super confusing, right? If I'm a white corporation. And I hear a black guy saying something about black people. It's just like, we can put the deal under review, but what do we do with this? It's like listening to black people say the N word at the job. It's like, 100%. What do we do?
Starting point is 00:50:47 Yeah, it's not your conversation. That's all. That's it. You know what I mean? It's easy to reprimand the white person for saying the N word. You know that's wrong. And it happens all the time. Happens all the time, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:56 But it's just like, when you get that from a black person, it's like, what are you supposed to do? And then when I saw Kanye, you know, compare his situation to George Floyd, man. Bro. He now knows. The Jewish media's foot is on my neck. He now knows what it feels like to have a knee on his neck. It's like, yay, my brother. Your knee is on your neck.
Starting point is 00:51:15 How about this? How about this? How about this? Adidas don't really have their knee on your neck like that. This is all self-inflicted. Simple as that Yeah 100%. It's all self-inflicted
Starting point is 00:51:27 And I'm gonna tell you the other thing Mine is the forget the Vlad TV clip That was just that's just people reaching right I saw them also When went viral from us talking about The fact when I said You know I hope that this is the time That Kanye actually goes out there
Starting point is 00:51:43 And get some real healing Well they said you don't know if he's gonna be here Yeah well I said I said I feel like he's moving Like a person who's not gonna be here much time Right I hope that this is what it takes for him to actually hurt people, like you always say, man. They do.
Starting point is 00:51:58 And I hope that this is what helps him to go find some real healing because clearly he's hurting, right? And I just, I don't see this ending well. I, you know, I feel like he's moving like a person who doesn't feel like he's going to be here much longer. You know what I mean? And how much longer? I'm not, I'm not even doing that.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And everybody's like, oh, you wishing death on Kanye? No, I'm not. Any psychotherapist, any therapist can look at a person and say, say, man, this guy is having a manic episode in front of everybody. You know, it's funny, though. Manic episodes don't end well, right? I saw people in the comments. I saw like Kevin Durand, the comments. Like, this is an awful conversation these people are having.
Starting point is 00:52:40 It's like, yo, go do something then. That's, you go do something. Why are we still? You out here commenting. Why don't you go call your man's if you know them and help them? Why are we? What is your comment doing to help? Why do we love car crashes?
Starting point is 00:52:52 Why do we do this? How come when we see something bad happening, we do this? Yeah. We do this. That's all we're doing. This is a horrible conversation. Yo, bravo. KD.
Starting point is 00:53:02 The way that you pointed that out. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. So helpful to Kanye in the situation. So helpful to the Jewish community. What an amazing contribution to this catastrophe that we have. People are like, oh, that's a disgusting.
Starting point is 00:53:17 What is disgusting about saying, I hope somebody gets the healing that they need? And we're literally, I'm looking at a man who's moving, like he feels like he's not going to be here much longer. This is what, you know, talk to any therapist, talk to any psychiatrist. We're watching a manic episode in real time. This is what they do. Yeah. They start self-sabotaging, giving things away, don't care if they lose things.
Starting point is 00:53:42 And it's just like, we're watching this in real time. Massive impulsive. Yes. And everybody's just, we're just going to sit around and wait until something bad happens to be like, man, I didn't see that coming. Like this video right here, all of these people sitting around applauding him going, yeah, Kanye, yeah, Kanye. No, how about, yo, stop, Kanye. Kanye, let's go get some help, man. It's too much money to be made off of him, which is I'm sure why he's so hurt is because he is this person that you can profit off of.
Starting point is 00:54:07 And so many people have probably used him throughout his life. And he's choosing to pinpoint one group with that frustration. But I'm sure it's not one group. I'm sure wherever he was, he was being, you know, quote unquote used or taking advantage of. He's also one of the richest people in history. So I don't know how much he's taking advantage of. But it's weird to me even when I hear him say, you know, we got to make sure these contracts are fair.
Starting point is 00:54:29 On one, out of one breath, you're saying, these contracts aren't fair. We need to see all the contracts. But then on the other breath, I was the richest black man in America. Yeah. So which was it? What about your artist contracts?
Starting point is 00:54:40 Are those fair? Big shots that they weren't. That's what I'm saying. And it's like, if it's a change you want to see, bro. It's bullshit. His excuse for that was, well, I didn't run my label. It was a van. So they didn't run it.
Starting point is 00:54:49 You're the richest man in America. Like, I don't know. Dude, he put out that long thing about where he was going after Ari Emanuel, the guy owns WMA, and he's like, what are you going to do for the 60 kids that are no longer at the school anymore? How are you going to help the children? Like, hey, Kanye, what don't you think about the children
Starting point is 00:55:07 before you're spinning this anti-Semitic shit? Like, you have a responsibility to the people that work for you. You have the responsibility to pay your bills. You have responsibility to your family. That's right. Once you get canceled, you're like, oh, you guys are so evil. You're trying to take it away from me.
Starting point is 00:55:19 No, man, the fuck up. Okay. Man the fuck up and understand that there are repercussions for your actions. His arrogance got the best to him. Wasn't it a private school too? It wasn't an unaccredited. I don't know. People were painted.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah, you got to pay it. So if you make the decision to pay to send your kid to a Kanye West school, that's on you. But also, you know, like, an unaccredited school. Connie doesn't have to pay, like, as a parent, I'm just saying. Yeah. An unacredited school would have found it doesn't read, but guess what else? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:48 But guess what else? He put out a statement. He put out a statement. And in his statement, it says, based off the decision of our founder, the school is closing down. So Kanye. So Kanye decided to close the school.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And now you got like teachers and other people quitting because of the anti-Semitic comments, but you decided to close the school. So that's your decision. It's just like, it's just master manipulation at his finest man. And, um,
Starting point is 00:56:14 I just see him starting to apologize. Then he backs off. But like the apology's going to come. He already backed off the George. He's so fucking manipulated. But look how different he talked to Ari Emanuel as opposed to George Floyd's baby mom. The death of George Floyd, it hurt my people. I hurt the black people.
Starting point is 00:56:28 So I want to apologize to hurting them because right now God has shown me by what Adidas is doing and by what the media is doing, I know how it feels to have a knee on my neck now. So I thank you, God, for humbling me and letting me know how it really felt. because how could the richest black man ever be humbled other than to be made to not be a billionaire in front of everyone off of one comment? Can I say one thing about the George Floyd thing? Like, he knows that he needs the security blanket, the shield of black people. So he looked at what pissed off black people the most, right?
Starting point is 00:57:09 He was like, all right, it wasn't the Jewish comments. I don't got to apologize for that shit. It was the George Floyd shit. Hey, black people, I'd like to apologize for the George Floyd thing. I was wrong. Now I understand what George Floyd fell is like because I have the knee on my name. Come on, man. He's just saying whatever's going to help this.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I just did a screening for Till this weekend, bro. Like, you're none of these things. George Floyd didn't make a choice to get executed by the state. Emmett Till didn't make a choice to get killed by those racist white people in Mississippi. Like you, the words that came out of your mouth were a choice. Yeah. You decided to do that. You decided to tweet that.
Starting point is 00:57:43 And you decided to double and triple down on all of that. You know, it's so funny. Like, he thinks that he's like, and you see what's happening to me, isn't this proof that they run everything? And it's like, I don't understand why he doesn't see that anybody that says hateful, bigoted shit has repercussions. Yeah. Like, just explain to me another person that has pushed hateful rhetoric that hasn't been punished. I'm just trying to understand it. You tell me.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Like, who is going, this is how I feel about the world. Tell me. No, I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. Some people would say Trump. I don't know if getting kicked off a Twitter account's punishment or not. Trump, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Let me see. Trump was president, though. What was he saying? Hold on, but what was he saying that was like this? Well, it wasn't directed towards Jews. I mean, a lot of people would say, especially like what he said about immigrants would be considered hateful, I think.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I mean, I don't have it on my fingertips. Now we're slicing it then, but yeah. Okay, I understand how people were offended by it. What did you think about what I said on Blat TV nine years ago, Chris? I thought it was, I mean, I think I would say, for starters, stay away from saying Jews run stuff. And I think you've learned that over the last nine years. I mean, I think we talked about that on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I guess it was like when all that Nick Cannon stuff was happening. Yeah. I used the same type of rhetoric a couple of years ago. I actually said that this shows Jewish people have power. And I wish I can't wait until we get that kind of power because we can't even get the cops and kill us fire. Right. I don't know why that's bad.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Well, when you talk to somebody Jewish, you will. Like, when you talk to somebody and they explain you. I talk to my friends who are Jewish, they don't think that that's bad. Well, I mean, I guess... I think there's an extreme sensitivity to... There's a difference between having power and being in control. Right. Like, wealthy people have power.
Starting point is 00:59:35 That doesn't mean that they're in control. Yeah. But they have the ability to make some phone calls. Like, for example, if a friend of mine who's not Jewish owns fucking AT&T or something like that, He might have a friend at a country club who won't let some asshole in because we found out that asshole fucking hit his wife. So he calls the country club and go, listen, I don't want this fucking wife be to join our country club. Fuck that guy. And the country club goes, all right, I'm cool.
Starting point is 00:59:59 He doesn't run everything. And I think there's a difference between having power and running everything. That being said, I understand why Jews are sensitive because these are the conversations that lead to the dehumanization of Jews. So they're going to be very sensitive to when they're all positioned in this way. Do all Jews have power? No. Does the guy who runs Disney, is he still Jewish? Bob Eiger, is he even still there?
Starting point is 01:00:22 Probably. Maybe he's it. Isner was Jewish. To who? Eisner, who was before him. Okay, Eisner. Right. He has some power.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Right. Right. So there are individuals that happen to be. Yeah, I think that's, yeah. The problem is when you blanket it. I agree. Are there dangerous fucking white people? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Are all white people dangerous? No. Are there dangerous black people? Yes. Yeah. Are all black people Dangerous. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:46 No, fuck me. No. No. But you know what I mean? Like, so that's the, the way that you're speaking about these people. I think all humans are dangerous in some way, shape, or form. We all have the potential to be dangerous. But I get exactly what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And I think that's the problem, right? That's what I've heard a lot of, you know, my Jewish people say. I've seen way more anti-Zemetic shit lately. It's crazy. It's undly. And anti-black. Son, there's a dude that walked into Finnellies. This is a bar.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Dressed as a Nazi. In my neighborhood, bro. Listen, do you understand what the problem is? And this is why- This is why all of these conversations- Algos, it's Halloween. Now, I'm- You're out of your fucking mind.
Starting point is 01:01:24 No, no, no, no. I don't give a fuck. That joke will get you fucked up in 2012. I thought about that. Like, what would I have done if I was in Finnellys? I think I got to, like, pour a beer on that guy or some shit. You better get the fuck out the way. The motherfucker dressed up as a Nazi comes in there in New York City.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Dressed as, I'm, if I'm Jewish, I'm running. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I'm jumping this motherfucker or something. I'm not taking no chances with this dude in 2022. When you see all of this anti-blackness, all this anti-Semitism on the rise, this country is on the fast track to fashion. Prince Harry did that shit, didn't he? Yeah, he dressed up as a Nazi.
Starting point is 01:01:57 The British have a weird fascination with Nazism and especially the royal family because they're really German. They're not even British for the most part. But that's a whole other thing. I mean, I think I said on here last week, I was like, I like to see the anti-Semitism. I like to know what's that? I think I've changed my two. Bro, is true. Did I not tell him he was tripping last?
Starting point is 01:02:15 I told Chris was crippling. No, I got enough, man. It's really interesting when you see how when influential people start pushing out the rhetoric, it creates a confidence for the other people to come out and do it. I don't know if that guy's dressing up as a Nazi if this isn't happening in culture right now. No way.
Starting point is 01:02:33 I don't know if you. Now, I also saw one of those digital billboards on the top of a building. I don't know where it was. Like Kanye was right about the Jews. That was in Florida. It was the Florida Georgia game, I believe. Somebody fucking digitized that shit on the side of the building. I'm telling you, man, that's why everybody is moving the way they are right now
Starting point is 01:02:52 because we are in a very dangerous time in our fucking society. And everybody's doing this shit. This ain't just like people in public citizens. This is fucking people in government pushing this shit. People in government pushing this anti-black rhetoric, this anti-Semitic rhetoric. Like this shit is, yo, this shit is scary, bro. Very, very scary. Nobody got time to be playing right now, man.
Starting point is 01:03:13 That's why I don't even understand. That's why I don't understand why at a moment like this, would you even involve yourself in any of this shit? This is what I've realized happens a lot with people. There's a difference between when people agree with you and when they exalt you and when people actually believe in you as a person and they exalt you, right?
Starting point is 01:03:30 So it's like anybody will exalt the person that they agree with. I mean, that's what's happening with Kanye right now. There are people who don't like black people that are saying Kanye was right because he said that George, Floyd was killed by Fenton. Bro, you got black people who are supposed to be so pro-black who will use cognitive dissonance because you got to really go hard to ignore all the anti-black stuff, Kanye said,
Starting point is 01:03:53 just because they dislike another community. Exactly. Even more. Like, how wild is it? So that's always it's just, how do you dislike a community more than you love your own? Well, I think it's more just like you're so used to not being agreed with, especially with famous people. And then finally, a famous person is echoing your sentiments.
Starting point is 01:04:07 And you don't give a fuck what that famous person looks like. You're just like, thank God, this person is telling me, I'm right. And that's what Trump did with a lot of groups. And that's what Kanye is doing with a lot of groups. And now he's backing that shit up because, you know, the money's costing him and the community is criticizing him. He does this all the time. I've told you all this for a billion time. Yeah. Whenever he's up, it is slavery was a choice. White Lives Matter. Hey, my presidential campaign is ran secretly by GOP elite just to take the black boat away from the Democrats. But whenever he's going through something, whether it's beef with his ex-y, or beef with corporations.
Starting point is 01:04:44 He's the most pro-black person in the world. And for whatever reason, folks fall for it. My people. I need to look at my people. The contracts need to be good for my people. It's unreal. I really truly just want him to get some help, man. Because I don't know what y'all seeing that I'm not seeing,
Starting point is 01:05:00 but I see a manic episode playing out in real time. And manic episodes don't end well without the proper medication. My therapist said, it's a reason you don't see 70-year-old bipolar. diagnoses. Ooh. They don't make it. Ooh. That's what you said.
Starting point is 01:05:19 This is an awful conversation we're having. It's not an awful conversation. Nasty. Nasty. Nasty conversation we're having. Real quick before we get out of here because I got to go, but why do we live in a world where it's easier to talk about conspiracies
Starting point is 01:05:31 and a bunch of shit we can't prove or don't really know, but when we start discussing reality, it's a nasty conversation. That's what we were talking about before. It's easier to play. Wow. Play. We want play. We want make-believe. We want things that aren't exactly real because they don't force us to deal with the reality of life. Then we talk about the reality of life and it's like, oh, that's a nasty conversation right there. Wow. That's a horrible conversation when you talk about the reality of life. Things we've seen.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Yeah. Like, Kanye is not the first person we've seen having a manic episode. Like, you mental illness runs in your family. Yeah. Mental illness is in my family. Like, we've seen these things before. We know how this ends and this person does not get held. I know what a nasty conversation is. Talk to me. A nasty conversation is going to be if something, God forbid, awful, does happen to Kanye. And then we're going to have a nasty
Starting point is 01:06:21 conversation about all them celebrities that were commenting and not doing nothing. That's going to be a nasty conversation. Wow. When we go about all the commenters, all the keyboard warriors, they ain't reaching out behind the scenes, then I'm trying to use their power,
Starting point is 01:06:33 their influence to get that man help. Right. That's going to be the nasty conversation. It's a cop-out. Oh, yeah. I texted Charlotte. this weekend. It's like if your words have that much power that you can speak
Starting point is 01:06:45 these things into existence, speak into existence, Chris Morrow getting a brownstone in Brooklyn somewhere. And then speak into existence, ending inflation, and then you can cure cancer too. I mean, it's just like, no, that's interesting with Chris said because people do say
Starting point is 01:07:01 that, right? People be like, man, shawlemy and be predicting things, you know, I got friends that be like, man, don't say that because you'd be saying stuff that's coming true. I'm not no fucking psychic. It's patterns, bro. Like, smart people learn from their own mistakes. Why people learn from the mistakes about this. We've seen this.
Starting point is 01:07:15 If every day of your life you eat McDonald's for lunch, breakfast, and dinner, and I don't know why I couldn't do it in order just now. Breakfast, lunch and dinner. If every day you eat that shit and you don't eat nothing else, I'm going to say, show, you're going to get fat. Does that make me a psychic? No. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:07:31 Well, it's not even a psychic. The implication is it wouldn't happen unless you spoke on it. Yeah, yeah. It's really weird. It's really dangerous that we're in a world where people, believe conspiracies over just real fucking life. Yeah. Like, it's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Let's do some asking idiots and get the fuck up out of here. I got time for two. What we got, uh, Tanjurik says, what fictional world would you want to be made into reality for everyone? Oh, what you've got, shows. What fictional world would I want to be made into a reality? For everybody. For everybody.
Starting point is 01:08:05 A Wakanda, bro. Easy. Easy call. Because they got all the cool technology. Easy call. Yeah. Easy call. And the chicks with the cool haircuts.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Easy call. You know what I mean? This is, yo, isn't that crazy? Like all the technology in the world and they can't get girls to grow their hair?
Starting point is 01:08:22 They don't want to grow it. Oh, they're shaving on purpose. I would assume. I mean, I think that's the look at the door and melodia. It looks fly as fuck.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I can't wait to see Wakanda for ever. I might have a screening for Wakanda for ever soon. Maybe sometime this week or next week. You don't come out to the 11. But, yeah. But no, Wakana seems like a cool-ass fucking place. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Yeah, I don't know. What do you guys think? Well, Kanda for me. The only other place I would even think about is Avatar, but I don't know if I want to be big and blue. I don't want to be all over there with the fucking... I don't want to be big in blue, bro. Get out of here with all that.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Did you ever... Have you ever rode the ride, the Avatar ride, at Universal Studios? No. Fucking incredible. Yeah. What about a ready player one? Yo.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Yo. Yeah. That Ready Player One is crazy. Also, low-key, like Harry Potter World would be kind of lit. Hell yeah Who looks trash Say again The food looks trash
Starting point is 01:09:15 Yeah it ain't gonna be that good Yeah the food looks trash In Harry Potter world And the crazy part is If you go to Universal Studios You can go to all of these places Yeah I went to Harry Potter My daughter and you know
Starting point is 01:09:24 Wife were impressed with Harry Potter If you don't give a fuck about Harry Potter You're not gonna be impressed by it Yeah but if you watch the movies and shit It's cool to go there Avatar was good having that goddamn Big ass dragon between your fucking legs Yeah
Starting point is 01:09:34 You can feel it breathing on your thighs Yeah No No, no. Ready Player 1 is crazy. And I feel like that's not even that far away. But that was far. I really like Ready Player 1. W. We can end on this one.
Starting point is 01:09:48 W.K. Nishaw says, what's the best and worst birthday gift you received as a kid? Fuck you, yo. Fuck you. You know what I went through as a child. You know all the Jehovah Witness. You know what I'm saying? You should get presents?
Starting point is 01:10:00 You didn't get presents? No, we don't celebrate any holidays at all. No. Shut the fuck up, Taylor. Yo, that shit really triggered me just now. Taylor was like, oh, that's so sad. You didn't get a cake? No, I didn't.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Okay, Joe. Jehovah Witnesses don't celebrate nothing. No birthdays, no holidays. No nothing. That's really great. You'll see me goddamn cry. Yeah. What about you, Shorts?
Starting point is 01:10:30 Oh, my God. Say again? What's your best and worst birthday gift? God damn. I don't know. Best and worst birthday gift. I don't know. I don't remember him.
Starting point is 01:10:39 A dead eyes do not remember them. I cannot remember the best or worst birthday gift. Wow. You got so many that you can't even fucking remember. Probably. Probably. Yeah, I truly don't know. Wow, that's weird.
Starting point is 01:10:53 What about you, Chris? Same one, I could say. I got a bike, Ross bike with a banana seat, which was popular in the 70s. Yeah. That desperately wanted it. And I left it outside to run inside to get something. And I came back and it was gone. Game over.
Starting point is 01:11:09 witnesses, baby, that stole that bike. You know, we were going to eat regardless. You know what I'm saying? How dare y'all be out here celebrating holidays without us. Y'all know what we was going through as J.W. kids, okay? May God, may Jehovah forgive those Jehovah witnesses that stole Chris's bike when they were younger. Okay? Can we go now?
Starting point is 01:11:29 Yeah, we kick out. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots and don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiotist. Thank you for listening.

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